Dive into our eye-opening conversation about Bill Gates' recent shift in stance on climate change and global warming rhetoric. What does this mean for his previously strong green agenda and the billions channeled towards renewable energy initiatives? We also explore the reactions and fallout from his change of heart, questioning what insiders in the climate debate might know that the rest of us do not.
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Larry Barron is joining us now. Larry, welcome. How are you? I'm doing great.
SPEAKER 15 :
So great to talk with you today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Always a joy. I appreciate it very much. Power of the future. You are the communications director there. Several things to talk about. Before we get into our topic today of Memdami, which Andy and I were just talking about a moment ago, did you see the news about Bill Gates and what he said about, quote-unquote, global warming, and we're all going to die from it?
SPEAKER 15 :
I did, except he said we're not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, imagine that, Larry. He's thinking like us now.
SPEAKER 15 :
This was beautiful. Is he, though? I mean, let's break this down. Bill Gates has no new information, no new scientific findings. There's no new revelation that's come forth that would change his mind. He just all of a sudden decided, oh, by the way, this is not going to end humanity. This is after how many billions of dollars that he's thrown at the green agenda for I don't know how many years, well over two decades. and forced us to pay rising electric bills because advocating for that agenda. And now he says, oh, yeah, no big deal. I think he smells the political winds. I think he sees the results of the green agenda, what it's done, and he wants no part of it. It's the arsonists running away from the fire.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, absolutely. He is the arsonist running away from the fire. But I will say this, Larry, Larry, Larry. Wow. He knows Larry Barron. Sorry, Larry. I think he knows what he's saying right now is true. OK, I think he knows fully that what he's saying right now is the truth. And what he was saying before is a lie. He knew he knew all along. Like you said, there is no new information. He knew that they were skewing the information to come up with the results he had before.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. And let's be clear, Laron is the nicest thing people have called me today. Wow, there we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I think, you know, really quickly, Andy and I were talking... Because he knew he was going to get a lot of heat from his friends. Yeah, we were talking earlier in the first hour, Larry, that, you know, Bill's, by the way, not a dumb guy by any means. In fact, you know, it doesn't mean he's super smart either because there's certain things he's done that are very idiotic, i.e. the subject we're talking about. But I do think... He is wising up to the fact that, man, we just cannot promote this ruse any longer. There's just not enough new data coming out to prove all of what we have been trying to scare people into. And the reality is if we don't make a shift, we're really going to get screwed when it's all said and done. And I think he knows that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I think he sees the results, and he wants to just rewrite the history and say, oh, yeah, I wasn't a part of that, or I saw the light with it. But I also, let's be clear, he may be very smart, but he sounds right now pretty spineless because... Heaven forbid Gavin Newsom wins the presidency or the next time eco-leftist wins the presidency, I'm sure he'll be singing the tune again. But what he said in the past, I mean, he literally wrote the book, I want to say only four years ago, about the oncoming climate disaster and how to avoid it. And he said, it's urgent. We have to do it. It's going to kill five times the people that COVID killed. And now he says, well, not really. I was just kidding about all that. Sorry if you bought the book, though.
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Well, and again, I don't think you guys, you or Andy are wrong. And again, what's his motivation behind this? Only time will tell. Again, he's very self-serving, so there's definitely that about Bill Gates. Trust me when I say that. He is not looking out for anybody other than Bill when it's all said and done. It's not the starving kids of the world. It's not those that he thinks might be affected by lack of this or lack of that. Trust me, this is for Bill and Bill only. So let's all make sure that we're clear on that. He is not on our side of the aisle. But you've got to start wondering, Larry, this is at least me and maybe my My cynical self is saying, okay, what does Bill know that even our side doesn't know about what might be coming out when it comes to data on, quote-unquote, global warming, climate change?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, that's a really great question. And no doubt he has enough billions at it to get some type of insider information. This is pure speculation. If I'm going to venture a guess, I'm looking at the way the Trump administration has shut off the government funding spigot for a whole lot of stuff that was unrelated to anything helping the American people. And he's about ready to see the climate scientists who were on the payroll of either the taxpayer or folks like Bill Gates start to say, you know, those papers we've written, well, you know, maybe it could be different. And there could be an onslaught of that coming. Because now that you've taken money out of the factor to produce the science, well, then we may actually get to the truth. And I'm wondering if that's not part of the equation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's a really good point, Larry, because one side has been entirely propped up by government money. Right. I mean, entirely. That's right. And I'm not just talking about the environmental... you know, agenda. I'm talking about green energy. I'm talking about all the money that's gone into the green energy scam. It's drying up quick because of Trump. It's becoming a real hole of money. And I think you make a great point. They don't see a future there. And let's just go ahead. Sorry. Well, just one last thing for 2028. I'm going to tell you right now the chances of the Democrats beating, say, a Vance Rubio ticket. I put it 20 percent. So if they're looking ahead to what they expect in 2028, I think that I would bet on the Republican ticket.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, and that's a really great point because there are big moves outside the energy space, obviously, but there are big moves to solidify our elections, to make sure that the people who vote are the people who are allowed to vote. And maybe he sees the tea leaves there and says, you know what? The folks are going to be – they've really embraced this agenda. And, you know, Barney said it really well today that the climate agenda may be dead. But I'll tell you this. We're about two weeks away – From the United Nations Global, they have it every year in November. It's how eco-leftists celebrate the holidays because they don't worry about Thanksgiving or Christmas. They go to their climate conference. They jet off. It's supposed to be in Brazil this year. I would be highly interested to see that type of attendance and to see what folks are saying there. Because, I mean, forget King Charles has a countdown clock. I think we only have like three years left to do something or the world's going to go insane. And so how does that jive with Bill Gates now saying, eh, it's not really true?
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Actually, this is their Christmas. I mean, this is when they rob the people of the world of their money and scatter it to other people. I mean, it's nothing but wealth redistribution with a green tag.
SPEAKER 15 :
It absolutely is. It's a green tax that, you know, American families, we're still paying. I don't know if it's this where you're living, but it is where I am and where millions of Americans across the country, our electric bills are going through the roof. Well, it's really simple. We've shut down 400 fossil fuel plants over the last 15 or 20 years. And we've, you know, gone down the road of unreliable solar and wind and lo and behold, Your bills are going through the roof. It states with I mean, a nonpartisan study just said states with a renewable portfolio standard are the ones where they've seen the biggest price increases. I know Colorado has one. And so if you want to look at the reason that electricity is going through the roof. Look at the green agenda and look at that could be a reason that Bill Gates is jumping off that wagon.
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I can't disagree with that. Okay, talk to us about New York City before we let you go. And, again, I mean, our predictors here are that he's going to win. He's going to have a lot of things he gets going in motion. A lot of it even has to do with energy, Larry, which you know full well about. What are your thoughts there with Mondami? Again, at the end of the day, really, our question to any of us is where does the money come from?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it's a great idea. And if you can finally answer that question, I'll be blown away. Because he doesn't really have to answer that question, right? He's just going to say, we're going to make the rich pay. We're going to make the rich pay. Well, the rich are going to pay, all right? They're going to pay to leave town.
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That's right.
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They haven't already. That's right. And so when you look at his green agenda, which hasn't gotten a lot of coverage because all of his positions on crime and social issues is just so far out of whack that it's insane. But, I mean, he's talked about putting solar panels on every rooftop of every New York City school. He's talked about the gas stoves that Biden went after. Well, he's going to go after them with the New York City. He's going to go after any fossil fuel-dependent appliance, make landlords replace those in every unit that they own, and then not allow them to raise the rent on it because he's going to force you to invest tens of thousands per unit of and then not allow you to raise the rent on it. And I don't know how he suspects that's going to work. But here's one for my friends on the left who whine and whine about Donald Trump and public lands. He has said that public lands need to be open to renewable energy generation. So I guess, are they going to be okay for him seizing public lands for Chinese-made solar panels? I guess so. I don't see the outrage coming from the left on that. So if, you know, I titled it because it's true. If the Green New Deal were a candidate, it would be Mamdami. And that's the reason AOC is so far behind them, pushing so far, because she, the original creator, the original sponsor of the Green New Deal, sees that she will finally have an executive who will try to put it into action. But your question is not the $64,000 question. It could be a $64 billion question for New York. Where's the money going to come from?
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That's it. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but if the money leaves town, Larry, isn't this going to be incredible for the Republicans? Let's say the money leaves town. I believe it will. I believe a lot of the money we were talking before you came on, these millionaires are going to set up residents, at least legal residents, outside of New York. I don't know if they'll keep their homes or not because their homes are going to plummet in value there in New York. But... if the money leaves town, you don't have the money to pay for all this, it's going to crash. Isn't this going to kill a lot of the agenda even worse than it already has been?
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You know, I would imagine this is the same municipality who went after something Donald Trump did, I want to say like 2015, and decided to retroactively make it a felony and retroactively try to charge him with it. And so for someone to say, you know, I hope they've got out of New York Before now, because I can imagine him on dummy at least for, you know, the first year of his term, retroactively saying, we're going to pay you an exit. Let's pass an exit tax. And anyone who made over a certain amount of money who left the city no longer in it was not going to have to pay an exit tax and try to, you know, What's the word? Extort that money out of the city's richest residents. But, you know, he's got on that really quick on that.
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And this is because it's something I don't know that I've ever really studied much. Are they successful actually collecting that? I mean, for me, if somebody imposed some tax on me for leaving, I'd be like, yeah, pound sand. Go have fun collecting that thing.
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I know, and especially passing it retroactively, right? So I leave today, but you won't pass that text until two months from now. But there are some things, if there's any type of interest, maybe he could seize it, like all good communists do. And there's a whole lot of pressure points that he can go after, especially on commercial-type interest. And so never, ever underestimate where a communist will go to pull out their money. Yes, the people who are the producers and the creators of New York City will leave, but there's a whole lot of people, judging by what we'll see a week from tonight, who want all the free stuff that he's promised, like any good communist. And so we're about to see what happens when communist dreams meet fiscal reality in New York City.
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Larry, how do folks find you?
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Hey, they can head on over to PowerTheFuture.com. Want to send me an email? Larry at PowerTheFuture.com. You guys are fantastic. Hope things are staying warm for you all.
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We're doing great. As always, Larry, appreciate you. Have a great rest of your day, sir.
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You as well.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And I know we sound like a bunch of naysayers when we talk about New York City, but the reality there is the polling shows that, Andy, it's pretty much a slam dunk.
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Well, of course. No, no. This is what we're seeing in New York City right now is simply the result of the parasites greatly outnumbering the producers.
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Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. And the producers are the wealthy in New York. They're going to be gone. Okay. They're going to leave because they got to. Look, let me put it this way. If you're a wealthy person in New York and you stay, you are an imbecile.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, why would you, Andy?
SPEAKER 03 :
I guess if you believe in the agenda so much... that you simply want to be part of it, I guess you would do it. But I'm telling you what, John, you have to be an idiot. It's like I always say, anybody who lives in Alberta and Saskatchewan who is not in favor of seceding from Canada is insane. Okay, I'm sorry. That's what the money is. Those two provinces are paying for Canada. Thanks to oil and gas and their other minerals there. They're paying for the rest of the country. And so right now they're wondering, do we secede? Well, when you look in New York, if you're a wealthy person in New York, if you have not already left, you're out of your mind. I'd get out of there. And by the way, Fox News, see, we're talking about your money being taken. We're forgetting about crime. Okay, if you're Fox News, do you want to stay there in New York? Are you safe? I would move Fox News entirely to Florida.
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Somebody texted me, a good friend, just said that he understands that they charge you the exit tax, if there is one, on the property that you sell. I know that people in Illinois that that's happened to and recently heard of somebody happening along those lines in Colorado as well. They basically take the proceeds out of your closing proceeds. That one, man, I don't know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let me tell you something.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, that could be the case. I'm not arguing. I don't know on that one. I'll have to do a little bit of research.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, but think about that. You are going to prop up your entire social, well, let's face it, communist economy on exit taxes, on punishing people for fleeing it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, first of all, what kind of a message are you sending? We are going to pay for all this by punishing people who run from it. I mean, that's ludicrous. Right there, that's insane. But secondly, that's not going to hold up. You're not going to, through exit taxes, pay for free child care for all the kids in New York City. Okay, you're not going to do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you realize how much free child care costs?
SPEAKER 08 :
A lot.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
A lot.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not enough money, John. I mean, it's just not enough money. Okay, let me ask you this.
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By the way, really quick, I think he's going to have a real rude awakening when he gets in there and figures out that, oh, wait a minute, I've got all these grander ideas, but now where does all of the money come from? And, yes, he's going to try to fleece as much as he can from the quote-unquote rich, but, you know, Andy, that only lasts for so long.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you can tag them. Maybe you can get them with an exit text or whatever. It's a one-time thing. You can get some of them one time as they are fleeing. That's it.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's all you're going to get.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, then what do you got? You got Baltimore.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, right. What is left? Baltimore. You got Baltimore, Southside, Chicago. Yeah. I'm going to wing it on the list.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's what's left. Okay, so I'm sorry. That's not going to hold up.
SPEAKER 08 :
And Andy was asking me during the break, you know, when does it come to a town near you? Well, you know... I think you really have to look at that logistically and say, OK, well, no offense. There's nothing else to screw up in Denver. Mike Johnston's done a good job of that as anybody. So there's no reason for him and Domney to actually be here because, you know, Mike's already done a good job of messing that up. San Francisco, L.A., Minneapolis, Chicago. I mean, Andy, I go down the list. I mean, realistically, what other big cities aren't screwed up already?
SPEAKER 03 :
True, but keep this in mind. Right now, the communists within the Democrat Party, which is basically the Democrat Party, are feeling empowered. They are now putting an open communist in charge of a major city.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 03 :
So they're going to look at all the other cities and say, hey, wait a minute. The takers outnumber the makers in all these major cities. OK, so they're going to look at Minneapolis. They're going to look at Detroit. They're going to look at Baltimore. They're going to look at Philadelphia. They're going to look at these places and say, wait a minute. We parasites outnumber the producers in every one of them. Let's take them all. So let's raise up a Mamdani in every single one of them. Why not?
SPEAKER 08 :
Maybe. I mean, on the same token, they already have it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but they don't have it purely. What I'm saying is this. Why not go pure?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, well, what's the difference? I mean— No, be a devil's advocate. Tell me the difference between—I mean, Mdami is actually very open. He's very upfront about what he wants to do and so on. But really, at the end of the day, how is he any different than Mike Johnston?
SPEAKER 03 :
He's just more extreme.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because at the end of the day, Mike's doing the very same things he's doing, only he's doing it here in Denver.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but you don't have free child care for everybody in Denver.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not yet. Not yet.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, but what I mean is that's what he would push.
SPEAKER 08 :
Whoever replaces Mike Johnson— The biggest problem that a Mike Johnson has is there's already not enough money.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, but it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a problem already here.
SPEAKER 03 :
What you would say is there's not enough money because we haven't taxed the rich enough. That's what Mamdani is saying. They're saying, well, there's not enough money. He's saying, you're right, there isn't. That's because we've let the rich get off.
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And I think that's going to be – I think this goes back to what we talk about a lot. Yes, the left is being very bold and upfront about what they want to do. But I think what they're going to realize, especially in New York, is this may not pan out as well as we think. By the way, I think it's a great thing because I think in four years – We already know it's going to be a hellhole. Yeah, in four years, I think it goes back the other way because people are going to be tired of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's going to be a third world hellhole. It won't be right away. Why? Because for the first year or two, they're going to lift off.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just look, this is going to be the greatest day of looting in New York history.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And once that's gone, then they're really going to be scrambling to figure it out.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I always think about these people. I laugh at these people who say, no, no, no, look at all these pictures we see of people looting during these riots and things. I'm just like, guys, that's nothing compared to what's about to happen in New York. Anyway, if I'm one of them, I would look at these other cities and say, hey, man, do it everywhere. The parasites outnumber you everywhere.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And, yeah, again, folks, here's all I can say about some of these things, these predictions. I mean, what exactly happens? Honestly, guys, I have no idea. Other than people are fairly predictive. When the rich start to struggle and they feel like they're getting fleeced and they're paying far more than they feel is, quote, unquote, their fair share, they move. They'll pick up. They'll go someplace else. They'll even cut their losses if that's what it comes down to. And they'll go someplace else at the end of the day. That's what humans do, Andy, at the end of the day. That, I think, is a pretty good predictor as to what's going to happen. It will happen. It will happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, it won't even matter what side of the aisle you're on. It's going to happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. Those good Democrats, rich people, they're going to move.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because, again, they will only give up so much. And some of these taxes, by the way, it's not like income tax and other things where you've got the ability to, quote, unquote, negotiate around some of those things through tax strategy. When it comes to things like property taxes and head tax and things like that, Andy, you just pay it. You don't have any choice. There is no option. There's no getting out of it at the end of the day is my point.
SPEAKER 03 :
New York is going to be Baltimore. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm afraid you are probably correct in saying that. Yes, that's exactly what's going to happen. All right, Kofos is joining us next. John, welcome. How are you? Good to be with you. Good to be with you as well. Talk to us about the John Bolton case, if you would.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure. So John Bolton, you know, for some reason decided to share national defense information with what appears to be his family. They have two unnamed individuals, but news reports have said individual one and individual two are are his wife and kid, a daughter, adult daughter, excuse me. And what it looks like he was doing was he was sending highly sensitive information to them for the purposes of creating, or collating, I guess, his diary. Because he cites his reference to it as a diary. Now, the important thing to know, or one of the many important things, is that these two individual, one individual, two as family members, uh they weren't government employees they had no security clearance so he was sharing top secret sci sensitive compartmentalized information with people with no authorization to have it okay well john don't you do this with your family you know around the dinner table share uh national secrets and so forth this is totally common of course of course and i think what makes what makes it worse is uh When he was National Security Advisor for those 17, 18 months, the government installed a SCIF in his house, right? A Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility, or SCIF. And the idea is because they recognize National Security Advisors on call 24 hours a day, and at some point, at an inconvenient hour, will have to receive information.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, obviously when he leaves, when he... leaves employment, that skiff is decertified, and the government says, just so you know, no place in your house is safe for this. So flash forward a little bit to 2021. He's the victim of a cyber attack by Iran. So he notifies the FBI, hey, my emails were hacked. My Gmail, my AOL account are hacked. But he doesn't tell the FBI at that point about what that information could have been that they got, or that he was sharing information with his family members. So even when he had the opportunity to say something, he never did.
SPEAKER 08 :
Makes sense. Now, you have a lot of history when it comes to criminal justice reform, and you've been a former mob, gang defense attorney, and so on. So some of this stuff, or I shouldn't say some, this stuff is not new to you. This is your background.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, right. I mean, you know, this is very, very common. I've done lots and lots of trials, and I think the, you know, the idea that someone would use their Gmail, their personal Gmail, their personal AOL, their, you know, I think it was using Signal or some text messaging app to relay this information to family members is... You wonder what the guy was thinking. And the funny part of it all is that when... There was the situation with the Secretary of War was on that group chat, if you remember a few months ago. That's right. Bolton couldn't get on the news fast enough to say how irresponsible and criminal that was when he had already done the same thing. He'd done the same thing. Far, far worse. Right. He wasn't a victim on that group chat, right? Or he shouldn't say a victim. He wasn't just sitting on the group chat as stuff was going back and forth. He was the principal sharing it. And remember... John Bolton has been the employee of the U.S. government for decades, right? It was the 1980s. So if anybody knows what you're supposed to do with this information, it's John Bolton.
SPEAKER 08 :
In other words, there's no excuses.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And he's got a real problem. I mean, you know, there's 18 counts of the indictment. Each count carries, you know, carries a roughly 10-year penalty, right, and a massive fine. I mean, he obviously isn't going to get 10 years' account if he's convicted of it all. But the idea here is this is a very, very serious situation. And, you know, you wonder what was going through his mind here. Was he planning a second book? But whatever it was, it was illegal. And I think the problem here, and, you know, this happens a lot in organized crime case, multi-defending cases, You know, oftentimes the government will sometimes just threaten and say, hey, you know, we're going to lock up your wife, we're going to lock up your kid. And sometimes that happens as part of an investigation when the wife and the adult child have nothing to do with it, right? Or the adult son or daughter have nothing to do with it. But in this matter, I mean, they knowingly and willingly received sensitive information, protected information. So I think it's going to be very interesting because if he tries to go to trial...
SPEAKER 03 :
uh as he has indicated he will the doj could turn around and turn them from unindicted people to indicted people john it's look i get a little bit skeptical because for years we've been wanting these kinds of people perp walked okay we've been wanting these people taken out in chains because they're bad people and they get away with the stuff over and over and over and so we just assume that somehow some way john bolton will get out of this with a slap on the wrist at the most however I think this time this guy is in real trouble. What do you think? I think this is going to go badly.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it is. I think it's much different than, you know, the case they tried to put on President Trump or the investigation into President Biden with the things in his garage. I mean, this is as clear as it gets, right? I think, you know, what Bolton's probably banking on is going to trial in a place that's very anti-Trump. And he's probably hoping to draw jurors from that pool and hang the jury or be found not guilty in that case through jury nullification. Unless there's more information that we just don't know, that seems to me to be the only strategy. And the question is going to be, will the DOJ also indict the wife and the adult daughter?
SPEAKER 08 :
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know. I can see it going either way, right? I mean, I think at some point they're going to get into plea negotiations. I think there's probably a good carrot there that a prosecutor would like to use if they want to use it. And at that point, Bolton has to make a decision, right? Because does everybody want to go to trial, or should I just take something? But remember something else. He's in his mid-70s, so even if he negotiates some kind of plea deal, It's unlikely he's going to get a lot of time, right, because of his age and things of that nature. But it is important to candidly prosecute these kinds of cases.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, how do you put together a jury for something like this? I mean, how do you find people who are not pro or anti-Trump in America?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think... Well, I don't think it's almost impossible.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, seriously, because because Bolton's going to go through this, his big defense is going to be this is a political prosecution. This is retribution. And that's nonsense. Of course, it's all going to be according to the actual evidence of what he did. But he's going to want people on that jury who aren't going to care.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's exactly right, and I think the prosecution and the defense are going to burn through a lot of jurors, right? Because they're going to call in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of jurors. Then you whittle down the group that can serve. Then from there, you have your series of four-cause challenges, right? And that's where people who are honest about it are going to say, you know what, I'm anti-Republican or anti-Democrat. So in Montgomery County, Maryland, I think it's going to be a very, very tough case to pick a jury for. I think you're looking for people, you know, when you quiz the folks up there, you're looking for people who you think can put politics aside and follow the facts and evidence, you know, regardless of where it takes them. But he has a wild card, because remember, he's not a very sympathetic defendant if you're a Democrat, right? Like, just because he might hate Trump like certain Democrats hate Trump, but, you know, he's certainly no darling of the left.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, true. It's true. There's basically nowhere on earth this guy wouldn't bomb.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're right. That's unfortunate, right? And I think that there's a lot of people who don't forget that. But I think ultimately what it's going to boil down to is, you know, what kind of deal do they offer him? Do they offer him a deal where he can avoid prison time? And to be honest, if they offered him that, he'd be smart to take it because you wouldn't want to roll the dice on this And not for nothing is that you do run the risk of your, what I'll refer to as individual one and two in that indictment, also just being indicted, right? There's no bar in indicting them just to indict them. Yeah, they'll just supersede the indictment and add them to it. And then, you know, you're going to have three separate trials.
SPEAKER 08 :
Makes sense. Again, this will be interesting.
SPEAKER 06 :
No husband wants to put their wife through that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, exactly. No, exactly. Okay, so here's another question. How many other people do you see something like this happening to? In other words, there's a lot of folks on the right that want blood out of certain individuals. I have said for a while now that the reason why you're not seeing more blood people, you know, quote unquote, prosecuted is because they're making sure they've got all of their I's dotted, T's crossed. They don't want any missteps. So that's my reasoning as to why you're not seeing more. But what do you tell those people out there that are listening that want more people brought to justice, quote unquote, and they don't think they're doing it fast enough?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, to be honest, I think exactly as you think. And by the way, I think we owe it to ourselves as a nation to have prosecutors that do dot every I and cross every T, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
We want our prosecutors to do it right and not fast. And I think that it's really important because every prosecutor has to decide, A, do I have enough to prosecute? And B, should I prosecute this, right? And I think that those are the two really important pieces here. I think we're at phase one. Do I have enough to prosecute this? And I think that we want that done deliberately. And be honest, whether it's John Bolton or John Doe on the street, I think both people should be accorded that level of justice.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. And I agree with you on that one fully. I've been saying the same thing to our listeners here, and it's why – and I get it. People are angry. They want things done. But it's got to be done correctly or you're going to lose at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right, and that's what erodes confidence in our constitutional system of justice as well, right? Just, candidly, what we saw in the past four years, right? I mean, I think that these sort of rush to indictments or indictments that are conveniently timed around elections or announcements and things, right? I think people are tired of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'd rather it take a very long time to be done correctly. Or, to be honest, to be done not at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, me too. No, I'm with you on that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. No, I'm with you.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's the only way we ensure the system works for everybody.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. John, I appreciate it. Thanks for taking time for us. I know you had to switch your schedule around to join us. I appreciate it. It's been great. I appreciate it very much.
SPEAKER 06 :
Anytime, my friend. Have a great night.
SPEAKER 08 :
You bet. Have a great night. Interesting. I don't know that I've ever heard that particular take on things from anybody. I haven't read any of that in the news. Let's just say it that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Here's a question. If they convict him, are they going to need two jail cells, one for John Bolton and the other for his mustache?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I don't know. Good question.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, it's enormous, John.
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SPEAKER 05 :
It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. And we are back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Rush to Reason, Debra's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer today. And article out, Andy actually sent me this, I believe, Sunday. Inflation cools more than expected. No signs of tariff pressure. The Fed met today pretty much signaling they're going to do some sort of a rate cut tomorrow. How much? Nobody's really saying. Could be a quarter point. Probably will be. Could it be a half point? Needs to be. Yeah, it needs to be. And given some of what, Andy, you sent me on this particular article and knowing where we're at with some of the job numbers and so on, they might do a half point. I don't know.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they won't, John, because they are politically motivated. Well, they're not dumb. They're politically motivated. You're right. They're Democrat. You're right. They want to hurt Trump. So what they want to do is hold off the Trump boom as long as they can. And the only thing holding off the Trump boom right now is housing. And the Fed can hold that back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm serious. Everything they do right now is all about 2026. They want to hurt Trump in the midterms.
SPEAKER 08 :
And Andy's right. The only thing, too, that the Fed is really affecting right now, I've said this before, is currently right now because realistically, again, tariffs aren't really having any real impact upon what's happening in the country. I've got some other things I was going to talk about. I didn't get time to today when it comes to EBT and some of those things, but I'll talk about that potentially tomorrow. But regardless, at the end of the day. Really not having a huge effect when it's all said and done. In other words, inflation isn't doing what the Fed said it would do. The only thing that really the Fed can do right now to hold the economy back is housing. And they're doing that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Trump is winning. This is the thing that's really sad about this, John. When you have a politically motivated Fed. And they are totally politically motivated. And I'm not saying this as an angry right winger. I'm saying it factually. They hate Trump. They want to stop Trump. And so they are horrified right now that he's winning at everything he does. My goodness, he may have a China deal soon. Didn't I say with Jordan last month, I said, Jordan, I'm actually very excited right now because of what China just did with rare earths and what Trump just did with 100%. I said, you don't start throwing Hail Marys until you're down 17 in the fourth quarter. This sounds to me like a deal is imminent. And now it's looking like one might happen. So I'm very happy about that. But if you are on the Fed, you're terrified. Because if Trump gets a China deal, My gosh, what if he gets Ukraine peace? I mean, he is on such a winning streak right now. You've got to do something to stop him. And the only thing you can – because he is bringing in trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars in investment into this country. We both know, we've been saying it for quite a while now, that 2026 is going to be an economic boom.
SPEAKER 08 :
Especially because – I'm glad you said that because for all of you listening – whether Powell does anything tomorrow and December, which there will probably be a quarter point each. It will be a half point by the end of the year, meaning we've had three-quarters of a point throughout the year.
SPEAKER 01 :
Which is disgustingly low.
SPEAKER 08 :
It should have been two points or a point and a half anyways. Point being, he's gone in May. Meaning the rest of the rest of 2026 is a boom.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. But he knows that if he can hold it back till May, if he can hold off that housing boom till May, that's going to affect the midterms. He knows that. OK, that's why the timing of him staying on till May. He needs to leave right now. Of course, he should have lost. He should have left already. True. He needs to be gone. If he was out of the way and we had a real normal biped in that role right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
It would be rolling right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
Way more than it. I mean, it's not bad right now, but it would be so much better, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
It would be rolling so much. That outside of the crazies of New York, you couldn't get a Democrat elected anywhere.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Okay. And they know this. These are Democrats on the Fed. And by the way, they're not just bad people, but they've got the entire Democratic Party going to them saying, save us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
There are Democrats, powerful Democrats, all over the country right now going to their buddies on the Fed. I'm telling you, this is happening. These are phone calls that are happening, and they're saying, you are our only hope. This guy is getting trade deals all over the world. Do you understand that we are opening up markets for our products everywhere? We're about to be selling soybeans to China. That's coming next. And everywhere we look, this guy is winning. He's getting peace deals everywhere. Everywhere we look, everything he's touching is turning to gold. Okay? You are our only hope. Right. That's why when you ask me, is it going to be a quarter or a half? No, it's going to be a quarter. It should be a half every single month.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mm-hmm. Now, here's a question. For a while. Hypothetically. I believe you're correct because I think that's what they're going to do because it's definitely a war. And they know they can't do nothing because now they'll really go down in the history books as being politically motivated. They've got to be able to say we did something while not doing hardly anything. They're going to give you that quarter point token. Now, if they're smart, which, again, and they are, but they're also politically motivated. If they're smart, though, Andy, they basically say, OK, you know what? I get all these guys are calling us and they're saying this and they're saying that. You know what? At the end of the day, this is what's best for America. Let's do it. They're not going to do that. No.
SPEAKER 03 :
They don't care about America. What are you kidding me?
SPEAKER 08 :
Haven't cared all along.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, no, no, no. Why do you think we've been able to predict what they've done every step of the way, John?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because they're not. And for those of you that are.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because we look at it politically.
SPEAKER 08 :
Those of you that are out there saying, oh, no, no, the Fed's independent. That's not true. You guys don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, actually, we've predicted every single one of these fairly accurately all the way through.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, the Fed is the only thing standing right now between Donald Trump and absolute power.
SPEAKER 08 :
Huge success. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, but I'm looking at it from the way they would paint it. No, you're right. They would paint it as absolute power.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay? The only thing standing between him and that is the Fed. And they look at these quarter, look, a quarter point is actually damaging. Why? Because what that does is it's not enough for people to move and start, you know, buying and selling and building houses again, right? In fact, it's so little, it's going to make people say, I'm going to hold back and wait for the real cuts. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, in fact, I'm afraid that we're sort of... He's holding off the housing boom. Andy, I can hear it right now. Some aren't. I get it. Some are going ahead and moving forward with whatever decisions they've got on buying and selling and all of that. There are some that aren't doing that, but there are far too many that are doing exactly what you just said.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
They are like, you know what? We're ready to pull the trigger, but let's wait a little bit. It'll probably get better. If we wait, we'll get a better deal. Let's just wait.
SPEAKER 03 :
You and I were talking last week about, hey, what about selling a certain property, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
What was I saying? Oh, I would have that person wait until next summer. Wait until this guy is out of the way, they actually put rates where they belong, and then you can start buying and selling and get real. You can get a better price. Because housing prices, they're crashing. And they are going to go up when rates come down. And so people are going to get better return for their money when they sell a property. They're not going to get that right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it'll be a quarter point. If it's a half, hey, man, I've been surprised before. I could be surprised. It could happen. It would really surprise me. What do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I think you're right. I fully agree with you. And, again, we'll know tomorrow. I'll talk about this some tomorrow. Scott Garlis will be joining us hopefully in the 5 o'clock hour, 530 literally is when he tries to join us, and we talk each week. And I think we're fairly close in our predictions, Andy. I just – That's how I see it.
SPEAKER 03 :
We called it last time. We said it's going to be a quarter, and it was. And by the way, let me tell you this. All the underlying economic dynamics say easily at least a half point. It should be a half to three-quarter point drop tomorrow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Not going to be, though. No. Again, folks, it should be. It's not going to be. We'll see how it turns out. Again, we'll talk about this tomorrow. Point being, and this is where I really wanted to stress, is the inflation sides of things, which is what the Fed continues to use as an excuse. The tariffs are going to cause inflation. Tariffs are going to cause inflation.
SPEAKER 01 :
Come on.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can't tell you how many times Andy and I have interviewed different people, including Jordan Goodman. Tariffs are going to cause inflation. Tariffs are going to cause inflation. We've said it all along. They haven't. Yes, there's been a few issues in some areas across the board. But all in all, no, they have not caused all of this, quote, unquote, economic damage that all of the predictors said they would.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, you're going to have inflation in various sectors without tariffs.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. It's going to happen no matter what.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's normal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wages go up. Other things are factors. Regulatory things happen. Lack of workers in some cases can drive things up. I mean, Andy, I go down the list of things that actually drive up inflation. And, in fact, even what – I've said this all along – what the Fed does with its rates – can drive inflation because as businesses have to incur those rates when it comes to their lines of credits and so on, they pass all that along. They charge more. So at the end of the day, they create some inflation in what they're doing anyways.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 08 :
You'll never hear the Fed admit to what I just said, but trust me, it happens.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, of course it does. If you raise costs, what's going to happen? And the costs include borrowing, Andy. The one thing that the Fed and all these people didn't seem to understand, which you and I have been saying for the whole year is this. Much of the cost of the tariffs is going to be soaked up by the foreign entities because they have to.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and again, as I said all along as well, is you've got to remember, too, that most people think tariffs and the price of a good is what you're paying at the retail end of things. It's not. When it comes to—I've used tennis shoes many times as an example. That $150 pair of tennis shoes isn't costing that importer $10. So even if it doubles in price, it goes from $10 to $20, their costs didn't increase that much. Can they absorb that and still sell you the tennis shoe at $150? Yes, they can. All day long.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they don't want to add $10 and lose sales.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they haven't. That's why you haven't seen huge increases in those areas because of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
They'll add a buck or two.
SPEAKER 08 :
to that's all they're doing and at the end of the day they're all making it work and by the way they're actually getting that out of the other side as well because the costs aren't going from 10 to 20 they're probably going from 10 to 7 and 7 to 14 because of the tariff right meaning it only went up four bucks yeah All in all. Follow me? Yeah, I do. That's how it's all working, folks. All right, we'll come right back, finish the show up today. Mile High Coin is coming up again. Speaking of things you might have kicking around the house, investments, things that you've collected over the years, coins, jewelry, stuff like that. If you want to know what the value is and you want to turn that into cash, David Gonzalez will help you with that. 720-370-3400.
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SPEAKER 08 :
And I hope today has been informative. I got a great text message from somebody last night. I can't remember what I was talking about yesterday, but I presented something in a way where I had a texter later on say, you know what, that's not the first time you've ever done that to where you changed my mind on a particular topic that I never really looked at in that way. Yes, folks, that's what we try to do here on a daily basis, get you to look at things differently than you might otherwise and or from even listening to other shows like ours.
SPEAKER 03 :
We take angles on these things that I've never heard anywhere else.
SPEAKER 08 :
So there you go, folks. Have a great evening. Thank you, Andy, as well, for all you do. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.

Join Angie Austin and Jim Stovall as they delve into Jim's Winner's Wisdom column focused on 'Price and Priority'. They explore how financial struggles and choices made during college years can significantly impact one's appreciation and understanding of value. Learn about Jim's personal experiences and insights into distinguishing between needs and wants, and how economic upbringing shapes spending habits.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with The Good News. We're talking about his Winner's Wisdom column. I just get such a kick every week out of, like, Jim teaches us a new thing, but I get to have a new conversation with him. I'm never bored. I always take up the full time with him. And today we're talking price and priority. Hey, Jim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, it is great to be with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, you're talking in this about, you know, the struggles of your college career financially in the early years of your marriage. And I'll never forget when you said you went to the grocery store with Crystal, your wife, and she had to put back a loaf of bread or something of the sort. And, you know, you didn't have enough money and you vowed you would never do that again. And I think about my son starting college. I don't know that he's struggling financially per se, but we're... initially making him pay for his tuition because I feel like, well, I did, my husband did not, but it made me feel like I had skin in the game and I was never going to mess up that opportunity because I knew how hard I was working to pay for my tuition. So I don't know that he's struggling, but he's definitely having to work, you know, to pay his way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I think that's part of the education at the university. You know, we have the Stovall Center for Entrepreneurship where students from around the in entrepreneurship. And I can tell almost perfectly who's paying for part of their education and who's got mom and dad paying for it. And one way is tuition is kind of a set amount between 12 and 18 hours. It's the same amount. Well, the kids that are paying for it themselves, they got a full load. They're taking 18 hours. They're not leaving anything on the table, but then there's a lot of kids. They're just playing all the way through college. And yeah, I'll just take 12 hours a semester. And, uh, And they could have taken two more full classes for no extra money, but they don't do it. And it's just like I always tell parents I can go to the parking lot of any high school in America and tell very quickly who had to pay for their own car just by the way they keep the thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, wow. That's interesting.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can tell.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, when you talk about that, I've kind of pondered that because one of my kids has been given a scholarship. She starts next year, and she can take as many classes as she wants. You're right. It can be 18. And then I think in my head, like, can I fit in a few classes that aren't as challenging in there? And can she do... Like, to be honest with you, like 15, I think, is going to be challenging for her, especially with her sport. But... my brain thinks the way your brain does like well i was paying for everything so i would certainly max out you know my number of credits but where my son goes where i went university of colorado boulder you pay like per credit so it doesn't really matter but boy if i if you could take as many as like 21 credits and it costs the same i'll guarantee you i would have been taking 21 credits
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, absolutely. And, you know, I always tell people, you know, we know the cost of everything and the price of everything, but the value of nothing. I mean, you know, to get a good value on something you don't want or need is not a good value. Our zoo here in my hometown just had a fundraising promotion, and someone decided that elephant waste is a great fertilizer, so they value this at $6 a pound. Now, I just... The entrepreneur in me couldn't help but, man, that makes an elephant worth a lot of money because they have a great production there. But if you don't have a specific need for elephant manure, half price is not a good deal. Free is not a good deal. And, you know, Mr. Braxton, my mentor, taught me how to read a restaurant menu. He said, people who are living in abundance, and that's an attitude, not an amount of money, but people who are living in abundance look down the left side of the menu and decide what they want to eat. People who are living in scarcity go down the right side, look at all the prices, and when they see something to afford, they swing over to the left and see what they're going to have for dinner. And he said, if you have to do that, you can't afford to eat out. He also told me, if you have to do that and you can't afford to tip generously... You shouldn't be eating out. I mean, it's just that simple. I mean, this should be an exercise in getting what you want. And, you know, it's like many things in life. Financially, we can have about anything we want, but you can't have everything. I consult with one of the top real estate people here in my home state, but when he started out, he had nothing. And he was a single guy. He lived in a little tiny apartment. And he would save all his money, and four times a year he would take these epic trips. He would go on an African safari, or he would surf down in Australia, or do the Rhine River cruise, and all these things. And every 90 days he would go do one of these, and then the rest of the time he's living in poverty. And he didn't care, because that's what he wanted. And I think that's a great thing. I mean, you can have anything, but you can't have everything. I have another friend, and he owns six of these vintage safaris. You know, Maserati, McLaren, these amazing, amazing cars. And, you know, that's his passion. He never goes anywhere and does anything. He likes these cars. And if that's what you want, so be it. Because money is about choices. It's not about impressing other people. It's not about anything else. It's about giving you opportunities and options. And, you know, that's what we're talking about this week in this column.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I always enjoy your columns. I always, I don't know, I like the conversation that they start. Now, when people, you know, I know you have, it's crazy. I can't even believe that, you know, people will believe you do this. But Jim accepts phone calls and emails from anyone who wants to, you know, email him. And he makes it, you know, it's like, hey, if you want to reach out to me, here's how you do it. And it says, you know, Jim at Jim Stovall dot com or by phone and has your phone number. Which is so crazy to me because you've written about 60 books now and you're working on your ninth movie. But what kind of feedback do you get, you know, for these articles like Price and Priority and last week, you know, Overtime?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, you know, most people, and we have 10 million books out there with the contact info in all of them, and they tell me somewhere between 2 and 3 million people a week read this column, and they can all call me or email me. I've been doing this for 25 years, and it seems to come into three categories. People want to know, how do I get rich? How do I get in shape? How do I become happy? healthy you know those are the things people look at and then of course how do I meet the right person in my life and and you know those are the you know but the big three are how do I get rich how do I get healthy how do I get in a relationship and and that seems to never change and and and In all three cases, it's not about finding something you don't have that's out there. There's no secret pill. You already have what you need to be wealthy, healthy, and be in a great relationship. Everybody's looking for the perfect person. If you'll be more concerned about being the perfect person, you'll attract who you want in your life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, you know, I think, I forget what the, oh, scarcity mentality. I think I might have that a little bit, you know, having grown up so poor and then always trying to, you know, order water and not get dessert and never order one. I don't drink alcohol anyway, but I even like the kids to order water. And I know when the waitress comes up and we're like, We'll take five waters and Gran will get a water that the waitress probably thinks she's going to get a crummy tip. But no, she'll probably get a 30% tip because I'd rather give her a tip than spend the money on soda or whatever. But with that said, I think I do have that scarcity mentality. And you talked about your friend Lee Braxton with the third grade education becoming a self-made millionaire in the Depression. So when you talk about that menu and people with financial struggles look down, like I might look at the side dishes like the other night. I'm not poor, obviously, now, but I ordered the cup of soup and coleslaw, which were both sides, right? Or I might order an appetizer for dinner. And it's just habit. I can't help that scarcity mentality. And I know I don't have it with generosity. If it's for other people, I'm very generous. But when it comes to things that I can skimp on, if I can buy an Amazon return couch, for instance, our couch. It was half as much because somebody didn't like it, but it was like open box or as new as if you can fit a couch just in a box. You know what I mean? So that's how I'll shop. And I think I do. I am stuck in that scarcity mentality that I think does adversely affect people becoming wealthy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you have other priorities in your life. I mean, you don't want to spend money on a $3 soft drink at a restaurant. You'd rather order the water and then tip better or invest the money somewhere else. And a scarcity mentality is, I'm going to run out, I'm going to be broke, I'll never get enough. And that has nothing to do with your bank balance. I had a financial planner called me recently and he said, I need you to spend an hour with one of my clients, which is something I do. And You know, I looked at her portfolio, and I won't mention her name. If I did, many of your listeners would know it. But she had a net worth of $54 million and no debt. And she was afraid she was going to run out of money. And I said, well, let's go through it real quick here. What's the most money you spend? She told me, and I said, let's triple that. And I said, what's the highest you think inflation could get? And she told me, I said, let's triple that. And then, how long do you think you would live? And she said, well, maybe 85 or 90. I said, let's say you live to be 125, okay? And we put all this in, and I said, okay, given all that, when you die, you will have more money than you have now. And spending three times what you're spending, and, you know, inflation three times higher than you can imagine it. And that, all of a sudden, she got a snapshot of this and was able to calm down a little. But if you've gone through your whole life and money is nothing but anxiety and worry and it's something you fret about all the time, having a bigger bank account doesn't help that. It's a change of attitude you need.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. And I think, um, I've, I've heard that people who've grown up without not much kind of can go one of two ways. And I'm sure there's, you know, there's plenty in the middle, but that overspending where they get the money and they just go crazy and then they run into troubles, obviously. And then those may be like me that are super, super conservative, but I think I have become more, you know, I spend money on experiences like trips, like that's something else. Oh, and real estate, like a home, but you know, cars, boy, um, I told you my son was in an accident and, uh, When they were figuring out the value of the car, they're like, is it under $15,000? Because it has something to do with insurance and how it's paid. When we looked up the blue book on a 2003 Lexus GX470, I think it was around $3,500. And I'm like, we just put repairs and tires into that thing that were more expensive than the car itself, right? But I laughed with Grandma. I said, well, I said that car took him home from the hospital. and it kept him from going to the grave because those V8s are such tanks, you know, that I credit that, you know, car for keeping him, you know, his injuries at a minimum. But, yeah, I'm not one to spend a lot of money on things I think are frivolous or I won't get a... Like, you obviously get a payback when you buy real estate, right? But you don't get a payback when you buy a car, usually, unless it's, like, safety. But you know what I mean? You're not going to sell it for more than you bought it for like you do a home. So I tend to spend my money on things that... I hope I'll get, you know, some kind of a return.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. No, I mean, you know, cars are an expense and homes are an asset. And if you look at them that way, yeah, you can grow. And Will Rogers said it best, Americans will be the only nation in history that goes to the poorhouse in an automobile. We, you know, you can spend so much money and now they have these things where you can finance them for eight years and then roll your debt into the next one and the next one and the next one. And wow, you can get really upside down in those things.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my God. Hey, I've never asked you. I mean, I know you don't drive because you can't see, which actually you probably could drive that Tesla now. I've been driving that around with my son because he can't use both of his hands, but he can use one hand. And it drives you wherever you want to go. And you can even summon it now. You can say, like, come up the driveway and it'll drive itself up to where you're standing or whatever. Anyway, are you into cars? Do you like nice cars?
SPEAKER 04 :
Miss Crystal does. For the last 25, 30 years, she's driven a Mercedes she really likes. We trade them off periodically. I remember we had an old Pontiac, 20 years old. the green dog that we traded in when we got our first mercedes and i remember we i'd saved my money we were going to buy cash for this thing we went over to the lot and the guy comes out and says what is that i said that right there is a 74 pontiac is what that is he said can you can you park it in the alley or something i don't want it sitting out here well i was going to trade it in and he said i'll give you a thousand bucks off anything and you keep the car and he said i'll give you extra if it's full of gas he said that's the kind of car you double the value if you got a full tank you know
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh. We had a rental called the Green Goblin. It's funny that you called it that, that, you know, oh, the kids were so embarrassed to drive in it. Oh, unfortunately, we're out of time. Thank you so much, JimStoval.com. Thank you, friend. You're welcome.
SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, it's the Good News with Angie Austin and Jim Stovall. And today we are talking about his Winner's Wisdom column. And this week it is titled, Defile It. Hey, Jim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, always good to be with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I just returned from nine days in California with my girls. I don't know. It's been a long time since it's been just me taking the girls on a trip without my son, who's in college right now, as you know. He had a big, like, young life camp this weekend where hundreds of kids came from different colleges and they all met up in the mountains. So he did that. And then my husband was here taking care of, you know, all of the pets and, of course, his business. So it was... It was fun. Oh, I didn't get to see your place in San Diego, but we did go to Mission Bay, which I think is close to your favorite place in San Diego.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I will be out there in two weeks. And my little island, Paradise Point, is right there in the upper end of Mission Bay. So you were right there.
SPEAKER 03 :
And what's yours called, your place?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's called Paradise Point. And it's a little island you get to on a little causeway. And it's about a 30-acre island there in the upper end of Mission Bay. And it's fabulous. And I love the water there because it's so calm because you're in the bay. Crystal loves to kayak there. And she goes out. And across the bay are the giant Navy ships. So I told her to. keep her kayak away from the aircraft carrier.
SPEAKER 03 :
Other than that... Yeah, I'd say it was about, you know, low 70s. We went to the Hyatt Regency Mission Bay, which isn't far from there because they have slides, you know, for the kids in the pool. So, yeah, we have to go to the more still kid-friendly place. And there's always Coronado Island, which is so beautiful. But I stayed with a friend there. So... Yeah, we did it all. We did the Fright Night at Universal Studios and we did Venice Beach and Santa Monica. We drove up to Santa Barbara and they got to see, you know, just where I used to do weather and, you know, my little station up on top of the hill and all that jive. So it was neat. They got to see a lot of different places. All my girlfriends from California, they threw me at birthday parties. So as you know, my big thing now is that Harvard happiness study with keeping those friendships and relationships that you have, how that's the biggest indicator of happiness. And I saw one girlfriend who I hadn't seen in 24 years. And we were like, we worked right near each other at NBC. We were best of friends. And we both started to cry. It was like so... You know, that's such a great feeling when you're so happy to see one. It was like you just saw him yesterday. I just started to cry. I was just overcome with emotion.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you know, that's the best times. It's the best. And late in his life, I was able to reconnect my father to one of his childhood friends. And when we got them together, I said, when did you guys last see each other? And they both thought about it. It was 81 years ago. What? Yeah. But they came in, hey, Glenn, good to see you. How you been? What's going on? Like they saw each other the day before yesterday, you know?
SPEAKER 03 :
And how old was your father?
SPEAKER 04 :
He was 92 at the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, and they were 81. Oh, my goodness, that is so wild. Oh, I love friendships, connections, they're the best. Okay, so this week we're talking about the column titled File It. What's this about?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, this is about doing the things you're good at, playing toward your strengths, and staying away from your weaknesses. And one of the things I love here in my business is I have a file out there where we go through the mail and all the stuff, and that's for my accountant. And any paperwork comes in, you know, IRS paperwork, government paperwork, all that stuff that has to be filled out, I am just so excited to put it in the file. And Mark gets to worry about it, and I don't have to worry about it because, you know, you have to look at, what your strengths are. As Clint Eastwood said, man's got to know his limitations. And I studied accounting when I passed the stock exchange test, but I just don't enjoy it. And, you know, if we're going to succeed in life, we need to really focus on the things we're good at. And usually it's the things we enjoy. But too often, Angie, we don't value it highly enough because it comes easy to us. And, you know, like my publisher, I've talked to them. We've done seven books filled with these weekly columns. And he said, these are just treasures. These are amazing. And people around the world write about it. And I spend about 15 minutes each on them. You know, just once a week, do a little column. And what am I thinking about? And it's gone. And then when I look back on it, I'm just so grateful that people like them. And I get to do that. And when I... lost my football career and became an Olympic weightlifter, they said, you are making some amazing gains. You're lifting more and more each week, and it's incredible. I said, why didn't everybody do that? And it came easy to me. It was my thing. And you need to find that thing. And I believe everybody has one. Whatever it is, you've got it. My brother and I were talking over the weekend. We both started out as teenagers working on a construction job. You know, I found an extra paycheck, and he found a career. I mean, he runs a $100 million construction company, and he was good at it, and we could tell right off. I mean, he knows what he's doing, and somehow I just, you know, I couldn't make the nail go straight. I couldn't do anything. You know, I mean, he was just good at it. And, you know, those are the things we need to all look at, you know. And I remember playing around with my friend and inspiration, Stevie Wonder, and, you know, You know, we were playing some stuff, and, you know, I play the piano a little. Stevie is a virtuoso. And he said, why don't you just do it like this? And he played it, and I said, because I've only got the two hands, Stevie. And if I had eight hands, I would play what you're talking about. But, you know, and he just, you know, it comes easy to him. He loves it, and it's what he's good at. So, you know, our purpose in life is to find our gift, and we achieve meaning when we give it away. So find the thing that you're the best at, the thing that you love, and discover a way to serve others by using that talent, that gift.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, and, you know, like biblically speaking, you know, I know a lot in church we talk about our gifts per se and that it isn't really a gift until you give it away. And I remember talking to a comedian, Michael Jr., and he was doing a comedy at like homeless shelters. And then there was a homeless family shelter. And this little boy had had a horrible childhood and he wouldn't take off this Spider-Man mask. And he wouldn't take it off. He wouldn't take it off. And he was doing his comedy. And finally, you know, towards the end, you know, he had him laughing and he was talking to him. And the little boy took off his mask. And the grandmother was just, like, astounded because he wore the mask all the time. Now, because of whatever pains he'd been through, he liked to hide behind it. But he let it down for Michael. And Michael talked about getting these homeless people to laugh because it's not – something that they do a lot of, you know, laughing because their life is so, you know, overwrought with, you know, difficulties and pains and suffering and struggles day to day. And I was like, well, why did you want to do this? And he's like, well, you know, if my comedy is a gift and I have it, like if I don't give it away, how is it really, you know, a gift? It's not a gift to give it away. And I thought, what a unique way to, you know, enjoy his gift. And this was, you know, many years ago. I don't know if he still does this, but he did some kind of a, you know, a special doing this, you know, some kind of a documentary on these people that were going through such hardships and, you know, trying to give them that gift of laughter. And, you know, I think of... Over the years, haven't we all thought about what ours is? So writing comes easy to you. And I would think maybe a column would for me, but a book certainly doesn't because, you know, I've toyed with that idea for many years and, you know, and not really gotten too far on it. Just done interviews with my mom maybe about our past because we've had, I guess, what some would consider a difficult life experience. You know, some people would consider that I had a difficult background. So I've kind of gone over that, you know, because a lot of people are like, wow, you should write a book. I can't believe you ended up where you have in life, you know, coming from where you came from. But I think sometimes... I don't even know if I know what my gift is. I like talking to people. And when I'm in big groups, like my friends, I get them laughing hysterically. Not one-on-one. That's the interesting thing. In groups, just my timing and everything, it's fun. Like you, we have good timing when it comes to making people laugh, especially in groups. So maybe it's speaking. I don't know. I still think even at my age, I still struggle with... What exactly does come easily to me? I certainly know waking up in the morning doesn't come easily to me. So I know the things that aren't my gift. I'm more of a night owl than a morning person. Of course, I did a morning show for decades, the time of day that I don't think comes that naturally to most people to get up at 2.45, 3.00, 3.30 in the morning, which I think I've told you I still do get up then. I still do wake up temporarily. you know, for a good half hour, hour every day at that time because I'm so timed to that. But how do you think you found what came easily to you?
SPEAKER 04 :
As most people do, I found by accident and then I was shocked that people enjoyed it. It came to me. And, you know, Angie, there's no doubt. I mean, anybody who listens to you for more than a few minutes realizes that your ability to talk and be approachable. And, you know, people feel like they know you, they trust you, they're comfortable with you. People like you immediately. And, you know, that's the thing I see when we hire actors for our movies. I mean, there are certain people, the camera loves them, the audience loves them, they just shine through. But as some of your listeners know, I met you years ago when I was doing, you know, literally 100 radio interviews in a week. for one of my book releases, and you were, you know, hey, next is somebody named Angie in Colorado, and I'm on, and after we were off the air, I said, who are you? I mean, you know, well, you know, I'm doing this, no, no, no, before, and then you told me about the network TV stuff and everything, and I, okay, that's who you are, I mean, this is, I mean, you're a rock star, and, you know, and, you know, you are very, very good at this, and, you know, don't kid yourself, so, The ability to converse and make people feel comfortable and, you know, make people like you and relatable is a gift. It's as good as it gets.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I think I, you know, I talked to you the first time maybe 10 years ago. I mean, it was it was really early on because there have been times in my radio. So 12 years now I've done this and I do credit our conversation that day with me continuing to do the show because I was considering not doing it. There have been years in the 12 years where I've made nothing. There's been years where I lost money doing it. And so it wasn't financially advisable for me to continue doing it. I would have been better off, fiscally speaking, to do something else because I've kind of been – on my own, doing it independently. And then I'm teamed up with a radio station that has been wonderful to work with. But I really need to generate clients on my own if I want to make an income, which isn't necessarily my forte. I don't think a lot of people come naturally to sales and going out and saying, hey, invest in me, invest in my show. But I've been lucky that this one organization that I really believe in that oddly enough, my son is starting to work for them this week. And they do, you know, it's a nonprofit that helps people with cognitive deficits. If you, you know, maybe your kid has Down syndrome or cerebral palsy, they hire a lot of these young people to work in their organization. And they are, it's an advocacy program. So all of these thrift stores help raise money. So it's something I really believe in and they believed in me. And that's why I've been able to stay on the air. But I think that I do credit you with saying, hey, I do these interviews. I'm doing 100 like this week. And you're so good at this. You can't quit. You should really keep doing this. And so I have continued to do it. And I do think it's a blessing because I get to talk to you who I consider to be a mentor to me every week. And I get to talk to experts and authors and I get to learn things every week. And it's super interesting to me to kind of delve into people's brains and, you know, find out more about them and see how their minds work and, you know, things like that. Like that's fascinating to me. I really get a kick out of it. And so even if in the years I didn't make money, I still enjoyed it, you know. And so I have you to really thank for that because I don't think I would have continued to do it. I don't know what I would have done. on. And I do have to find a next thing. Like as my kids are going into college, you know how expensive that is. And I don't make the kind of money where, I mean, I don't even know if I could afford to put one kid through college in a year with the income I generate. So I do have to get a little more wise about what I'm doing financially. But in terms of the enjoyment of doing it, and I hope other people enjoy hearing from us. I know in your case, I get notes about you and oh, I didn't hear Jim this week or where can I find your podcast? I miss Jim. So you've become kind of a fixture in the show. So I certainly, you know, have you to thank for that. And we're almost at a time, but I just love you. So I wouldn't be doing this. I don't think if it weren't for you. So I have you to thank for that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you are a rock star. I think you've found your gift. And you may have to find other ways to give it away, but I have no doubt you will because that's who you are and what you do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, if you want to find Jim, jimstowell.com. Thank you, friend. You're the best.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.

Join Rick Hughes as he explores the vital components of revival and spiritual renewal, drawing insights from the story of Jonah's transformative journey. This episode delves into why learning is crucial to sparking a true revival and how individual growth can significantly impact the collective faith of a nation. Discover the difference between revival and spiritual renewal and how they shape the future of Christian life.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few minutes, please stick around. It won't be long, only 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education and absolutely no manipulation because we're not going to con you. We're not going to ask you for money. We're not going to try to solicit funds, sell you anything. We just want to give you something. We want to give you the information found in the Bible to try to verify and identify God's plan for your life. If we can do that, then you can orient and adjust to the plan should you decide to do so. But I thank you for listening to the Flatline Radio Show. 21 years we've been broadcasting this radio show, and it's been a wonderful, wonderful blessing in my life to be able to bring you this information. I remind you that our 800 number is not working right now. We changed telephone service and they got something mixed up and we're not able to get 800 calls. We're trying our best to get that back on the air, but you can always contact us through the website. That's rickhughesministries.org. rickhughesministries.org. And there you can order our books. We have another new book coming out called Understanding Your Soul. Hopefully it'll be out by Thanksgiving, and I think you may want to get that book. It's going to be one of our best we've done yet. Okay, in my last radio broadcast, I made a statement to you that I hoped would resonate. I said this, there will never be a revival in America if believers do not learn how to pray. Again, there will never be a revival in America if believers don't learn how to pray. I don't know if you want a revival. I'd like to see a revival, but we need to identify what a revival is. The first revival that I actually preached, I conducted was in a small Baptist church in Leeds, Alabama, about 19, maybe 1970. That's a long time ago. Every night I spoke giving an open invitation for people to come forward and receive Christ. I also was invited to host a revival in Gulfport, Mississippi, but the local pastor wanted to collect a love offering for me, and I refused to do that, so that didn't go over very well because I don't understand how you could invite people to come hear somebody preach the gospel and then try to ask them for money. So we didn't do that one. But the first nationwide revival is taught in the book of Jonah in the Old Testament. It occurred in the town of Nineveh. You might remember that God directly told Jonah, go to Nineveh. In Jonah 1, verse 2, go to Nineveh and cry against it for their wickedness has come up before me. However, dear Jonah refused to do that. He said, nope, I'm not going to do that. I don't like those people. And instead, he boarded a boat bound for Tarshish, fleeing from the Lord's direction. It appeared that he preferred to die rather than preach to the people in Nineveh. And actually, when the storm hit and things went bad and trying to figure out what was going on, Jonah said, look, in chapter 1, verse 12, just throw me forth over into the sea. I'm the problem. Then you might remember a great fish swallowed him, the Bible says, and he resided in the belly of that fish three days and three nights. Jonah 1, 17. Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights. This is what you call enforced humility. And it was enough to cause Jonah to confess his sins of disobedience. Listen to what he did in Jonah 2, 1 and 2. He confessed his sin while he was in the belly of the great fish. Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly and said, I cried by reason of my affliction to the Lord, and he heard me out of the belly of hell, cried I, and you heard my voice. Once back on dry land, how did he get back to dry land? Well, in Jonah 2.10, the Lord spoke to the fish and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land. And then God spoke to Jonah a second time. and Jonah 3, 1 and 2. And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah a second time, saying, Arise and go to Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I tell you to do, I bid you. What was Jonah's message? Well, His message was kind of frightening because it was the message that God told him, that the city would be defeated and overthrown in 40 days. They were all gonna die or be captured. And the response was immediate. Jonah chapter three, verses five through 10. So the people of Nineveh believed God and proclaimed a fast and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. For the word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he got up off his throne, and he laid his robe aside, and covered himself in a sackcloth, and he sat in ashes. And he caused it to be proclaimed and published throughout all of Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles. and he said let neither man nor beast nor herd nor flock taste anything nor let them feed nor drink any water but let man and beast be covered with sackcloth and cry mightily unto God hopefully he will turn everyone from his evil way and the violence that was in their hands Who can tell if God will turn and change his mind and turn away from his fierce anger that we do not perish? In verse 10 of Jonah chapter 3, God saw what they did, that they turned away from their evil ways, and he changed his mind about the evil that he had said he was going to do to them, and he did not do it. Now, you would think that would have encouraged Jonah, but actually it's just the opposite. I mean, Jonah was sent there to preach the gospel, to hold a revival, to get the people to turn away from their sin and turn to God, but he wasn't happy about it. It said in Jonah 4.2, he prayed unto the Lord and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was this not what I said when I was yet in my country? That's why I fled to Tarshish, for I knew that you are a gracious God, You're merciful, you're slow to anger, and of great kindness and repentance thee of the evil. Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me, for it's better for me to live, to die than to live. He's actually asking God to kill him because these people all turned to the Lord. He didn't care for him very much. He was actually full of self-pity, and he had to learn a very, very hard lesson. So God used a gourd and a little worm to teach Jonah the lesson. And the lesson is that the souls of men are much more valuable than a gourd. And Jonah 4.1, and should not I spare Nineveh, that great city wherein are more than six score thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand and also much cattle? This incident that I just read to you, you should read the book of Jonah sometime. It's the first recorded national revival in the biblical history. So please allow me to define what a revival actually is and what a revival is not. First, a revival is a spiritual awakening. It is not a social movement. Politics has nothing to do with a spiritual awakening. If you'll think back about when our Lord Jesus Christ was walking on this earth, you might remember that Rome was in control of Israel. They were under the domination of the Roman army. And nowhere, we know how absolutely sick the Romans were, some of the weird things they did. But nowhere did you find the Lord Jesus Christ telling the disciples to preach against their sins, he told them, to lift me up, tell them about me, tell them who I am. The disciples' job was not to clean up the devil's world. The disciples' job was to lift up the Lord Jesus Christ. You know, there have been a lot of high-profile evangelists in America within the last 100 years. A couple of names you may be familiar with are like Billy Graham and Billy Sunday. Both of these men conducted citywide crusades across the nation and led many people to the Lord Jesus Christ. And you have organizations like Campus Crusade, Youth for Christ, Navigators, and they reached into high schools and colleges as well as the military with much success. I myself spoke to hundreds and hundreds of students in both public and private schools all the way from 1969 to the year 2022. Many of those that I spoke to asked to be saved. The question that I want to ask you is where did all these new believers end up? Did they wind up having a national impact and bring America back to seeking to serve God? A new Christian has much to learn in order to understand God's will, individually and nationally. That's why most evangelists seek to connect the new convert with a local church. I believe the local church is in fact the classroom for the Christian. The instructor of that classroom is the pastor teacher, and the textbook is the Holy Bible. As in any classroom, academic discipline must be considered, must be held. But never forget that in school you're tested on what you learn or you didn't learn. I remember a few tests I took, I tried to cheat my way through it and that didn't work. God does the same thing. He's going to test you to see if you believed and applied what you learned when your pastor stood in the pulpit and taught you the Word of God. In 1 Peter 4.12, Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trials which is to try you, as though something strange had happened unto you. In other words, you're going to be tested. God's going to put you through a fiery test to determine if you learned how to apply his word to your situation. In 1 Corinthians 10, 13, there has no temptation taken you, but such as is common to man. But God is faithful that he will not suffer you to be tempted above that which you're able, but will with a temptation also make a way of escape that you'll be able to bear it. When I got saved in 1968, actually 1967, when I got saved I was given a small pocket New Testament and I was told to read the book of John and of course I did that. I got into a good local church where the pastor taught the Bible, but I was never able to completely sort things out. What exactly was I to believe and what exactly was I to do? So I enrolled in Bible college, but still no one taught me the mechanics to the Christian life. I learned about the Bible, I learned all the books of the Bible, who wrote them, what time of the year they were written, what they were about, but nobody gave me the mechanics to the Christian life. It was almost two years after my conversion before I met the pastor who would teach me the things I needed to understand in order to have an effective life in ministry. And it may be that way with you too. Maybe you've been a Christian a long time and you've been in your church a long time. But you've heard me talk about spiritual mechanics and you've never heard that before. You've learned things you never learned before by listening to this radio show. And I thank God for your hunger and for your desire to have a spiritual awakening in this country A revival that has lasting spiritual impact must start with learning. That's where it has to start. So if we had people that get saved, like through Billy Graham Crusade or through Billy Sunday Crusade or through Campus Crusade or Young Life or Navigator, people get saved, the first thing they have to do is learn something. You know, the very reason the nation is destroyed like us, God told Hosea 4, 6 to tell the people this, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. You hear that? Not because they're doing nasty things, but lack of knowledge. Because you rejected knowledge, I will reject you, and you will never longer be a priest or nation to me because you forgot the laws of your God, and I'm going to forget your children as well. So never forget that in Jeremiah 9, 24, God said he's looking for those who know him and understand him. That takes some knowledge. You may know God, but you might not understand the God you know. The problem with that is you wind up doing all the right things in all the wrong way. And that's all manifested at the judgment seat of Christ when you show up with a big pile of wood, hay, and stubble. So don't forget that. He's looking for those people that understand him If you try to humanize God, if you try to make him think and act like you do, that's a terrible mistake. The first thing a new Christian has to do is he has to learn how to think differently. You can read about that in Romans 12, 1 through 3, where it says, stop thinking in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think, but think in terms of humility as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. Also, Philippians 2, 5 tells us to let this mind that was in Christ Jesus be in us, which technically means we're to think divine viewpoint. We're to think like Christ thought. And that means we have to change our way of thinking. Arrogance is the big enemy. Stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance beyond what you should. That means quit justifying your sin. Quit trying to act like it's okay. You have to admit what it is and confess it to God. That's the first thing you have to learn. You have to learn how to deal with your sin. In Caucasian, what does that mean? Fixing beliefs in your mind through repetition, repetition, repetition. In Caucasian, it requires you listening, you learning, and then you applying what you learn. You listen, you learn, you apply. You can't learn anything if you sleep through church, I promise you. You need to be in church with a Bible and a notebook, taking notes down and reading those notes when you get home. Also in Ezekiel 33, 31, listen to this word. They come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear your words. Now listen, here it comes. They won't do them, for with their mouth they show much love, but with their heart go after after their own covetousness. Now there's a picture of somebody that's playing a game. Learning how to execute the Christian life is the first step towards the national revival, something I want desperately and something you want desperately too. I want people to get saved and to come to know Jesus Christ as their Savior, and I want people that are Christians, and in fact, people that already know Christ, to have this new hunger to learn God's Word, a renewed hunger in their life. Throughout the New Testament, We are told to study to show ourselves approved of God. A workman is needed not to be ashamed. 2 Timothy 2.15 Learning how to execute Christian life is critical. Those people that use their volition to reject the mechanics of true worship, so God gave them the consequences of their spiritual unfaithfulness in Hosea chapter 4. They rejected God's word, they didn't want to learn anything, so God rejected them due to, even the priests were ignorant of God's laws. You can be approved and you can be disapproved. Let me read it again, 2 Timothy 2.15. Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, but rightly dividing the word of truth. It's critical that you understand that. The first thing necessary for a lasting spiritual awakening is to have a desire to lift up and glorify the Lord Jesus Christ. We must see individuals as someone that God loves, someone He sent His Son to pay for their sins. Their race or their politics is not an issue. It's not the issue. When you're seeking to present the gospel, never talk about politics. I can assure you the disciples never talked politics about Rome and what Rome was doing. They talked about Jesus Christ and lifted him up. Of course, you may have an individual not interested in that gospel. He would rather get into a political discourse with you. And if that's the case, here's my suggestion. Bid them farewell and move on down the road. You're wasting your time talking to them. But a true revival, a true revival that we're willing to see happen in this nation will include many unbelievers coming to the Lord Jesus Christ to receive forgiveness. And of course, if that happens, Satan's going to try to confuse the issue. He'll give a counterfeit gospel, and he'll use well-meaning Christians who wind up misrepresenting God and his free grace offerings. That happens every day, even today, through social media that I see on things like Facebook or Instagram. I see preachers giving a false gospel, telling you things that you must do to be saved. The only thing you have to do to be saved is exactly what Paul told the Roman jailer in Acts 16, 31. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. And the household. A true revival will result in many individuals coming to Christ. On the other hand, I want to introduce you to a term called spiritual renewal. Not a revival, but a spiritual renewal. And that's believers getting a renewed interest in the scriptures. In order for there to be a national change in America, in the direction that we're headed, there must be a revival and a renewal. I'm sorry to say there appears to be very little spiritual renewal in America. There does seem to be some sort of interest in spiritual issues beginning on how do I get saved, but Satan has done a good job of infiltrating the message with much false doctrine. I hear pastors telling folks to repent of their sins, for example. Unfortunately, that's not how you get saved, by changing your life and repenting of your sins. Romans 5, 1 and 2 tells a different story. Therefore, being justified by faith, not repentance, but by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. by whom also we have access by faith unto this grace wherein we stand and rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. By faith, by faith. For by grace are you saved through faith, the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone would brag about it. All of our sins were paid for on the cross, every last one of them. He took our place. He received our punishment. You will not be judged for your sins. That's not why people go to hell, because they're sinners. People go to hell because they reject Jesus Christ as Savior. Listen to John 3.18. He that believeth on him is not condemned, but he that believeth not, that's reject Christ as Savior, is condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. That's pretty plain, isn't it? National revival starts with a maximum number of individuals coming to believe that Jesus is God's uniquely born son, that he is the one who makes us righteous to the point of salvation, not because we promise to turn our back on sin and behave in the future. In 2 Corinthians 5.21, this is about the Lord Jesus Christ, for he has made him to be sin for us, the one that knew no sin, so that we might be made the righteousness of God in him or through him, not by repenting, not by doing something crazy, but by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. John 12, 32, and if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men unto me. 1 Corinthians 1, 18, for the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolish, but unto us which are saved is the power of God. The most powerful thing in the world is the story of the Lord Jesus Christ and the forgiveness that he offers through the means of the cross. He went to that cross. He took your place, my place, died in our place, resurrected from the dead, walked out of the grave and walked into heaven. And he's alive now waiting the Lord's Father's order to come back and get us. That'll happen soon, I promise you. Revival in America may be possible if witnesses give the correct information. But renewal in America is going to be different. It's going to require much more than just believing. Believing is how you get saved. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. But growing requires a daily, daily, daily decision. If you can't get with it that way, if you can't start studying and growing on a daily basis, then you're never going to have a spiritual renewal. The key is if my people, when they're called by my name, will humble themselves, turn from their wicked ways and seek my face, then I'll hear their prayer and heal their land. That's believers. God is wanting you to get a hunger to learn about him. God is wanting you to have an insatiable hunger in your soul, a thirst in your soul to learn all you can about God and his word. And yet you have kids, you have a job, you have a hobby. You don't even listen to the Bible teach. Some of you know exactly what I'm talking about. You have a source of information in front of you and you won't even take time to do it because you're too busy. And yet when the bottom falls out, when things go bad, you're going to become running to God then, oh God, oh God, save me. I'm having a rough time. Oh God, pull a genie out of the eight bottle and save me. Until you come to the place where you're hungry to grow, hungry to understand. I've only run across probably a couple of hands full of people like this in my lifetime and so many years of traveling. People that have a hunger for God's word. They hear it taught, it rings a bell. Just like this radio show. Maybe it rang a bell with you. Maybe you said, this is the first time I've ever heard anybody teach like this. This is the first time I've ever heard these things explained to me. I want to know more. And I get letters every day from people saying, I want to know more. Can you send me one of your books? Can you send me something to study? Can you tell me how to grow? Can you tell me where I can find a great pastor? Unfortunately, there's not a great pastor in every city that I know about. But revival in America could be possible if witnesses like you give correct information, gospel information, and don't water it down, don't mix it up. But renewal, not revival, renewal in America is going to require much, much more. Again, salvation is a one-time decision, but spiritual renewal is a daily decision. For spiritual renewal, the protocol plan of God must be learned It must be learned and it must be followed. If that were to happen, then there's no telling how much blessing God would pour out over our nation. It's there, it's there for you if you want to learn it. If you want to grow, you got to grow. The Bible says grow in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You can answer that question. Are you growing spiritually or are you just treading water? Sure, you're saved. Sure, you've accepted Christ as your Savior. But are you growing? What do you know about God's plan? Do you understand the protocol plan of God? Do you understand the 10 problem-solving devices that make up the flatline in your soul? Is that you? Or are you so busy doing other things that you're grateful you got a ticket out of hell, you're going to heaven, that's for sure, but you don't have time for the rest of it? That's really a shame. Please, I beg of you, we must have spiritual renewal. We must have Christians that are hungry to learn God's word. If that's you, contact me immediately. Get on to my website, rickhughesministries.org. Take a look at those books that we offer. We can provide you with tons of information and it's all free. If you don't have a good pastor, write me a letter through the website and we'll tell you where there's a pastor where you can learn and grow. Maybe not face to face, maybe you might have to do it over the internet, There are a lot of great pastors teaching a lot of great doctrine if you'll just take the time to do it. So please, I beg you, renew your spiritual life. We used to call that come forward and rededicate your life to the Lord. I'm not asking you to come forward and rededicate your life. I'm just asking you to get a renewal, a hunger to grow, to learn, to apply God's Word in your life. Why? So that you will be able to represent Jesus Christ to your nation, to your friends, to your family. That's what it's all about. Your growth allows you to represent Jesus Christ so that when people see you, then they in fact see Christ. Does that make sense? Oh, I sure hope so. Again, rickhughesministries.org. Tons of material there for you to study and learn. Our new book coming out real soon called Understanding Your Soul. You'll be able to get that book. It's free of charge like all our material. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being with me today. It's my prayer that you'll come back next week when we show back up. My voice is a little raspy. You just have to put up with that. But we're doing okay. We're hanging in there. So thank you for your prayers. Thank you for your support. Thank you for your encouragement. And may God get all the glory for everything that you and I both do. Okay? See you next week.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.

Join Mike Gallagher as he delves deep into the seismic shifts within the Democratic Party, now recognized by some as the Democrat Socialist Party. With insightful commentary and analysis, understand the new dynamics that influential figures like AOC and Zoran Mamdani introduce to American politics. This episode unravels the intricacies of political endorsements and speculates on the future trajectory of America’s political landscape.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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We've got to do a name change today. We've got to do a rebranding. You know, we've already done that. As conservatives, we've already rebranded the Democrat Party because we refuse to call them the Democratic Party. There is nothing Democratic about what they do. We refuse to say Democratic. We just say Democrat. Or the Dems. Or the Democrat Party. There's nothing Democratic about these... tyrannical, radical individuals. It's the Democrat Party. In fact, once in a while, if I'm reading a news story, I'll read something and I'll say, I'll read from the story and I'll quote the article and I'll say, Democratic. And people get annoyed with me and say, Mike, don't say Democratic. It's Democrat. Some call them Demo-rats. Some call them demon rats. Some call them dimwits. But we don't call them Democratic. We call them Democrat. But from here to four, they have to always be called the Democrat Socialist Party. Because every prominent Democrat in America is now endorsing and embracing a flat-out Democrat Socialist Party. communist, radical extremist named Zoran Mamdani. So from now on, it's the Democrat Socialist Party. If Hakeem Jeffries, who waited and waited, has now decided reluctantly it's time to endorse Mamdani the commie, then we at least have to officially acknowledge that the Democrat Party is embracing socialism. Mamdani denies he's a communist, even though he talks about redistribution of the wealth, seizing private property, and all the same crap from Karl Marx that we know means communism. But, hey, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He denies that he's a communist. I think he's a communist. You think he's a communist. But we know he's definitely a socialist. And so let's call today's Democrat Party, now that they're all on board with Zoran Mamdani, let's call them what they are. the Democrat Socialist Party. Here's cut number eight. This is Hakeem Jeffries, the House Minority Leader, with Margaret Brennan on CBS's Face the Nation, explaining his endorsement of Zoran Mamdani.
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You waited until this Friday, the day before early voting began, to endorse the Democratic Socialist candidate Zoran Mamdani. Why did you wait so long?
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Well, as I indicated last several weeks, we've been immersed in the intensity around the government shutdown and the run up to that in advance of September 30th and the expiration of the fiscal year. But I support the Democratic nominee, as I indicated, and we're in alignment in terms of the issue related to affordability. and the need to address it decisively for the city of New York. And of course, affordability is an issue for people all across the country. From a public safety standpoint, I supported the notion that he would retain police commissioner Jessica Tisch to continue to lead the NYPD forward. That's incredibly important from a public safety standpoint for every community, including as a high priority, the safety and security of the Jewish community. And in terms of the moment that we find ourselves in, Donald Trump represents an existential threat to the city of New York and beyond because of the extreme assault that has taken place throughout this year on the economy, on health care, on farmers, on veterans, on law abiding immigrant communities, on due process, on the rule of law. and, of course, on the American way of life itself. And we all, as Americans, are going to have to be aligned and pushing back so we can end this national nightmare that Donald Trump has visited upon the American people.
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Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. Okay. Good. All right, Mr. Minority Leader. Glad you made it official. Glad to know that you guys are all on board. And it's not just Hakeem Jeffries. Hey, AOC. is rumored to be replacing Chuck Schumer for his U.S. Senate seat. She's already casting her eyes on that seat and to primary Schumer and get him out of there. She is clearly one of the most prominent Democrats in America, and she makes no bones about it. At the big Zoran rally over the weekend, she's all in.
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city was built by the Irish escaping famine, Italians fleeing fascism, Jews escaping holocaust, black Americans fleeing slavery, and Jim Crow, Latinos seeking
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They're very excited, aren't they? She's very excited. Look, this is her moment because the real radical underbelly of the Democrat Socialist Party is being exposed for all the world to see. Ben Ferguson often appears on cable news. He's a pundit talk show host. He had probably one of the smartest assessments of the Mamdani train wreck as he appeared on Fox News this weekend.
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You go to New York and what you see here is this is a massive gift. I've said for years when you're like, we got to be like AOCs. I'm like, no, no, no. Give money to her campaign. She's the poster child for insanity of the Democratic Party. So please don't get her out of office. Mondani for me is that guy. I think he's going to ruin America's greatest city in New York. But at the same time, he is going to be the gift because he is. absolutely the face of the Democratic Party. And this is what happens when you don't police your party. You have Marxists and socialists and communists that have come into the Democratic movement. They're no longer the fringe. They've taken over. And Mondani is proof of that. So you guys have made this bed. Enjoy it. And if you look at New Jersey right now and the governor's right there, it's tight. Republicans don't even have to win there for this to be a massive momentum win for conservatives. And when you say we've got bad candidates, y'all said that about Donald Trump and look what he's doing right now.
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Ben's right. This is going to be, if it plays out and if this scheme works to install and get elected a rabid, radical, socialist, communist extremist in the mayor's office, it's going to be a nightmare for New York. There's no question. But it's going to be a real gift to the Republican Party. Politically speaking, now that the Democrats have fully embraced this brand of lunacy, it's going to be a gift that continues to benefit today's Republican Party. This is going to help in the midterms. This is going to help the gubernatorial races. This is going to help, hey, this will help dogcatcher races in Piqua, Ohio. Because the country now sees the complete and utter transformation of what used to be the Democratic Party of our parents and our grandparents. Now it is the rabid Democrat Socialist Party that is institutionally embracing a guy like Zoran Mamdani. 800-655-MIKE. Give me your take on all this. We're in our New York City studios for today, and then after the show, we're headed off to Israel, where later this week I'll be broadcasting from the Holy Land. We'll be in Jerusalem Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday of this week. Carl Jackson will be guest hosting tomorrow as we travel to Israel. I'm so thankful to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews for sponsoring our broadcasts from over there, and we will be giving you updates and great interviews and Hopefully compelling conversations that you'll appreciate as we wind our way to the Holy Land Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday of this week. Thanks to our friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, where I hope you'll take a moment to support this tremendous organization. You go to mikeonline.com. Easy way to make a secure online donation. Give whatever you can so we can help continue to bless the people of Israel by supporting this beautiful ministry, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Just go to MikeOnline.com to donate. MikeOnline.com. Do you agree with me that this will be dreadful, if it happens, for New York, but terrific for the Republican Party itself? writ large. Do you agree with me that this will play out the way so many of us predict that it will? Or do you think it won't be so bad? Maybe a guy who's never run anything before in his life, a guy who's never held a job in his life, a guy who espouses such radical far-left views, an election unlike anything we've ever seen in America before, at least on this scale. Do you agree that this will benefit the Republican Party overall? Or do you think maybe we'll just, it won't be that bad, things won't turn out quite as dire as we fear? 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. I hope you join us here in the Relief Factor studios. Call or text, but let's put your voice front and center. I'm really interested in knowing how bad you think things will get here in New York and how good they could benefit Republicans nationally. This could be the death knell for the Democratic Party. And I say Democratic Party, past tense. as they have transitioned, as they have been transformed, as they have morphed into this wildly lunatic, far-left, communist, socialist mindset, crowds of people chanting, tax the rich, tax the rich. This is what today's Democrat Party is all about. They are now the Democrat Socialist Party of America. And, hey, I'm here for it.
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Mike Gallagher.
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I was talking to somebody in New York City last night who said flat out, the rally at the 13,000-seat Forest Hill Stadium over the weekend was as terrifying a rally as anything anyone in New York has ever seen. Because it feels like there's so much enthusiasm for this Marxist, for this, well, Islamist, who managed to sneak in, and people are kind of turning on Curtis Lewa, his friends. Dov Hyken, who's a longtime friend of our show, he's been on the Curtis train from day one. Dov made an announcement Friday. He's a former New York assemblyman, great advocate for the Jewish community in New York. And Dove says the only way to stop Mom Donnie now is to vote for Cuomo. That's the Hugh Hewitt logic. You've got to be pragmatic. Here was part of the rally. Here's the governor. The governor of New York. The Democrat, socialist governor, I guess. Kathy Hochul.
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We take back America. Thank you, Queens. Thank you, New York. God love you guys.
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Elect, did you hear that? Elect Zoran, and we're going to take back America. Dominic's in Naples, Florida, 26 past the hour. Hey, Dominic, what do you make of all this?
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Yeah, very interesting. I've been following it for a bit now, and I think it's his policy, the Zohan policy, is going to work, but for the first three years. They're going to market on all that. It's going to be like a sugar rush. They're going to take all the capital from all the other big institutions and just flood it to the people, and everyone's going to be happy for three years, enough to probably get elected again.
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I mean, I don't know if three years. Look, what do you think is going to happen to crime? What do you think happens to the bad guys when Zoran he doesn't believe in prisons? He doesn't believe in punishing criminals. He doesn't believe in certainly punishing shoplifters. They're going to wipe out the stores. I mean, it's going to be it's going to be really, really bad here. And there are people who are never going to come back. There are people who are going to flee New York, and they'll never return. Frank in San Antonio quickly. Frank, how are you? Good morning, Mike.
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Hi. My idea is this. Anybody putting the idea out there that's saying, oh, maybe it won't be so bad, do you not remember what we just went through the past four years?
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I know.
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You know, Mondani is to the left, left, left of Biden and all his cronies.
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Yesterday there was a vote at the Knesset in Israel on annexing the West Bank. Do you see it as a challenge to your peace efforts?
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Will you answer that, please? Because I cannot understand a word she's saying. Where are you from? Where are you from? You're from France, beautiful accent, but we can't understand what you're saying.
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He's a piece of work. This guy is a piece. I can't understand a word you're saying. Leans over to Pam Bondi. She's trying to interpret for him. She's translating. And I can relate. I don't get accents either. If I watch three minutes of a TV show and they're in some thick British accent or some other foreign accent, I'm out. I can't understand them. I don't know why. It's a glitch I have. I've got lots of glitches. Came to work today with my fancy new glasses that my friend Stephen Jones recommended. They don't work. I can't stand them. Got the progressives, you know, and I'm just going to have to squint. I can't. They don't work right. And it took them forever. They made one mistake after another after another. It's funny how there are some companies that have great customer service, others not so much. So this company, big famous national chain, I'm not going to mention their name, They botched my order. I went and ordered these months and months ago. And they had a computer glitch, and then they got lost, and then blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, I finally got them. They look pretty good. If you're watching right now on Salem News Channel, I'll put them on for you for the benefit of people to see how they look. Because they look – I think they're kind of – almost look like Ben Franklin. They're good – I couldn't remember the name. Oh, Lindbergh's. That's the name of the brand here. Lindbergh. They're not cheap. These ain't exactly, you know, from the corner store. But it took them forever to get here. And now as I wear them, I look up and down. The lower part's blurry. The upper part's blurry. I do look kind of intelligent, though, with them on, don't you think? I mean, they look good. Maybe I'll just get them for just glass. And make it look like I'm smarter than I am. Glasses make people look smart, don't they? Or they're supposed to. See, I can see the reflection. Eric said there's no reflection in there. I can see the monitor here in the glass. I'm going to take them back. I'm going to get a refund. I'm going to go Karen out. I'm going to Karen in the store. I'm going to say, look, Karen Gallagher wants a refund. Supposedly they have a 100% happiness guarantee. Well, we'll see how that works. That'll be my next crisis. So no, I don't think they're going to work for me. I've got to put them back into their expensive Lindbergh case and call it a day. But I'm not so blind that I can't read the posts on X like a smart comment from Mike who wrote, Donald Trump is the greatest mind game player ever. We're talking here a little bit about Trump threatening to or promising to run or keeping open the possibility of running for a third term. He says he knows he can't run for a third term. But every time he mentions it, the Democrat socialists lose their minds and are no longer on their game. Even though we all know they don't have much of a game anyway. And P.S., Mike is right to call them the Democrat socialists. That's what they should be known as from now on. When you've got Hakeem Jeffries endorsing the socialist candidate for mayor in New York, the Democrat socialist, Zoran Mamdani, they're all lining up now. They're all being, they're all, you know, taking, what's the phrase? Taking to heel. They're all now on the same page. They are in for this radical Islamist named Zohran Mamdani. And I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen. But it's not good for New York. It's great for the Republican Party. And when they don't have anything substantive to complain about, They spin like a top over things like the ballroom. Now, David Brooks is a PBS never-Trumper. He calls himself a Republican, but he's an absolute Trump-hating establishment rhino. That's who David Brooks is. And New York Times, PBS, the normal pedigree for a left-leaning so-called Republican. You've got to hear his tortured explanation from PBS the other night as to why. He's on a panel here with Jeff Bennett, Kimberly Aiken's store. He says, look, it kind of felt wrong, this ballroom construction. But look, it's the right thing to do.
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So the remarkable scenes at the White House this week is President Trump greenlit the total demolition of the East Wing. You can see it there to make room for a ballroom. The price for this, the price tag for this has now grown to some $300 million. On the screen right there, this is the list that the NewsHour has obtained of the private and corporate sponsors that have contributed to this project. So, David, the last time we talked about this, you said the idea wasn't necessarily a bad one. Do you still feel that way now that the East Wing has been reduced to rubble and dust?
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Well, I must say this. The photos are shocking because there is something sacred about that building. And it feels like somebody taking a claw into a wedding cake. It just feels wrong. But I have long believed that the White House is just too small. You know, it's built for. John Adams and Abigail Adams. And people have added wings on since, of course. But it's just the rooms and the West Wing is so sacred, you can't touch that. But, you know, the Obamas used to have their state dinners out in tents. And John Kennedy, they had their state dinners. They had to spread everybody in different rooms. So the idea of having a room where we could have a state dinner or a big event, that still strikes me as as the right thing to do. And I'm hoping future presidents will scrape the guilds off and make it nice.
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Kimberly, you could argue that this ballroom project is in many ways the kind of perfect distillation of how President Trump sees the presidency, something that needs to be remade in his image. Do you see it that way?
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Well, I don't. And listen, we can have a debate, a discussion about how big the White House is and how old it is. I've been in that press room. I know that a renovation is called for. But it's the people's house and the idea that it has been corporate. The corporatization is what is in charge of this rebuild in a way that is in no way transactional. I had a lot of people in my mentions today saying, hey, it's saving the taxpayers money now. But what are taxpayers paying for? The reason that things that happen in the White House ought to be paid by taxpayers is that keeps the White House accountable to them. Now, who is the president accountable to? Google? Corporate interest? Meta? Unknown individual donors? That is exactly what the emoluments clause and other constitutional measures are supposed to protect against. Who will the president be beholden to now? The American people or all the folks who ponied up to help pay for this ballroom?
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Gives me a headache. As if donors, private donors, is a new concept to that young lady. And you can see the look on her face of just utter disgust when David Brooks said, yeah, let's do it. How about this headline from ABC News? I saw this over the weekend. Are you ready for this? This is going to shock you. At least two magnolia trees appear to have been removed to make way for Trump's White House campaign. Ballroom. Satellite images. They use satellite images to determine that President Trump's project to build a $300 million grand ballroom has appeared to take down at least six trees on the White House grounds, including two historic magnolia trees. Magnolia trees, do you hear me? Do you understand the significance of this? Magnolia trees. It's got to stop. It's got to stop right now. It's out of control. Two magnolia trees. Four other oak trees. Or saps. That's ABC News, by the way. ABC News. Oh, my goodness. I think I've got to get out of the country for a few days. And I will. We're headed to Israel, where I hope you can join us. Thanks to our friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. So grateful for their support. So thankful for their... Their sponsorship of our show and their efforts. It's a beautiful ministry. It's just exactly what the name says. International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Christians and Jews coming together to support the good people of Israel by rushing emergency supplies, donations, food, water. Do you stand with Israel? Go to MikeOnline.com. MikeOnline.com to support the IFCJ. And day after tomorrow, we'll broadcast from Jerusalem. Hope you can join us then. And tomorrow, the great Carl Jackson guest hosting.
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Everybody's texting me on the MyPillow text line trying to talk me out of getting rid of the glasses. You should see me. Montana sent me a text. Mike, you have to retrain your brain to use the glasses properly because I've got these progresses, right? The top part is for distance. The bottom part is for reading. You will develop the tilt of your head to access the correct position for the depth of what you need to focus on. It took me two months to get my brain adjusted to the new way of seeing. Give them a go. Hang in there and wear them. You should see me trying to put my head up and down. I look like I'm having a cerebral hemorrhage. I feel like I'm having a stroke. I put my head up and down to try to see, and I can't see anything. You see, I'm surrounded by all these computer screens in this studio. And I got the glasses so I could see the copy and the material and the information on the screens. Well, I'm going up and down. Yeah, if I kind of go up and down, I start to see, like, let me read this. I put my head back up. It says... Gazoo greens. Gazoo greens. Another trip to the vet, another diagnosis. You need gazoo greens. Now, then I text, I tilt my head, I see, oh, no, it's rough greens. Well, of course I know about rough greens. Every time you walk out of the vet, you got a big bill, right? Your dog is shaking with anxiety, doesn't want to go to the vet. Dr. Dennis Black's idea is to get you to stop going to the vet. And that's why Rough Greens has become America's number one dog supplement. I don't need copy to read this. All I know is that my friends Peg and Joey have two beloved Cocker Spaniels. Jesse was scratching his little belly all through the middle of the night, had a skin... allergic thing. They couldn't figure out why. The vet couldn't figure out why. Joey and Peggy heard about Rough Greens. Joey started sprinkling Rough Greens on top of Jesse's precious dog food. The scratching was eliminated. Wait till you see what Rough Greens does for your dog's digestion, for your dog's skin, energy, most of all your dog's longevity. Go to roughgreens.com because you can get a free jumpstart trial bag. All you do is cover the shipping costs because the best doctor visit is the one you never have to make. Go to roughgreens.com. Use the promo code MikeG. Now, rough is spelled R-U-F-F. So remember, roughgreens, R-U-F-F, roughgreens.com. Use the promo code MikeG. Break the cycle today. Roughgreens. So great, your dog will ask for it by name. I look like a bobblehead. Look at me. Look at me up here with my head, trying to read everything. Oh, yeah. Okay, look. Oh, look, there's Alex over there. Alex is across the screen. There he is over there. Okay, I can see. Yeah, I'm looking up. I'm looking down. They don't work. Everything's blurry. And I'm dizzy. You think I'm going to wait two months to get used to these things? No, they're gone. I don't care how much they cost. Lindbergh schlindberg. I'm out. I'm out. I'm done. Can't do it. They look good, though, don't they? I look very smart. I think I look very officious. Nice little kind of like they're frameless. They're like just the lenses. And you should have seen. I did everything but sign up for a liver transplant to get these glasses done. Oh, they had the fittings and they had the this and they had the ridiculous. Waited forever for this. I don't think so. I don't think so. I do want to share with you before we get out of here, Brandon Johnson. I'm headed to Chicago on November the... I think it's the 9th. Saturday the 9th, right? It's Saturday, November the 8th for our big Freedom Summit. 560theanswer.com for tickets. That's going to be a blast. Scott Jennings is going to be there tomorrow. Dinesh, right? I think Dinesh is going to be there. A whole bunch of great folks are going to be at the big Freedom Summit, and I've been invited to attend, and it's Saturday. We've got to talk about Brandon Johnson when we're at the Freedom Summit. We've got to talk about Pritzker. Illinois has a very unique set of politicians, to put it mildly. I'm going to give you one of the dumbest politicians in the history of America. You know, we've been talking a lot about the mayor's race here in New York. What about the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson? Here's cut number one. Here's the mayor of Chicago arguing that using the term illegal aliens is racist.
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We don't have illegal aliens. I don't know if that's from some sort of sci-fi message that you wish you had. Well, listen, the legal term for my people were slaves. You want me to use that term too? So look, let's just get the language right. We're talking about undocumented individuals that are human beings. The last thing that I'm going to do is accept the type of racist, nasty language to describe human beings. And so as far as our spending...
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I guess even our editors got tired of that. Just cut him off mid-sentence. And that's what he deserves. To be cut off mid-sentence. Makes no sense. It's an offensive term. The attempt to commandeer the language is one of the great tricks of the left. To hijack... Normal, illegal aliens are illegal aliens. They are illegal immigrants. They don't even like the term illegal. I'm sure Brandon Johnson, this Rhodes Scholar, thinks that illegal is a racist term. When you break the law, you've committed an illegal act. It's not, this isn't brain surgery. Nothing hard about this to understand. And at the end of the day, The party has – we shouldn't ever call them Democrats anymore. I did this whole thing earlier on the show where I explained we don't say Democratic because there's nothing Democratic about this bunch. But there's not even anything left to say. They're the Democrat socialists of America. Kathy Hochul over the weekend, the Democrat governor – of New York said, elect Zoran and we take back America. There you go. There you go. The crowd's shrieking, tax the rich, tax the rich. This isn't going to end well. for these folks on the left. The Democrat socialists are not going to have a happy outcome because Trump just keeps winning. Here's cut number 10. President Trump explaining the pride that he understandably holds in ending eight conflicts, eight wars, eight military conflicts, in the first eight months of his second term.
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Korea Wednesday. Here was President Trump earlier here in Malaysia.
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Today's signing represents just one of eight conflicts that we've ended in eight months of the Trump presidency. I'm very honored to have done it. We saved millions of lives. I'm here on a mission of friendship and goodwill and to deepen our ties of commerce, to strengthen our common security and to... really promote strongly stability, prosperity, and peace for all of the countries in this room and long beyond this room.
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Now, here are the details of the accord bringing peace to neighboring Southeast Asian nations. Thailand releases 18 Cambodian soldiers. The removal of heavy weapons from the border region. Malaysian troops will ensure the fighting does not restart. Now, here's a list of conflicts.
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Thailand, Malaysia, Cambodia. I mean, you've got the Israel-Hamas peace deal, Armenia, all these different wars that he's ending. God bless him, and bless the hearts of those that are continuing to try to tear him down. I hope you can join us later this week from the Holy Land. After the show today, we're headed to Israel. We're going to be broadcasting from Jerusalem Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. It's going to be a very special week, a very important time to support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And don't worry, we'll stay in format. We're going to cover all the breaking news, what to make of it all. You and me together, fighting the good fight. Great job by Yasmin filling in for Christian today on the video side. Eric, Tracy, Alex, Joey, all of you. Joey's headed with me over to Israel, and he'll be doing his reporting from over there as well for South Carolina. So Carl Jackson tomorrow. I'll see you Wednesday from Jerusalem. Have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.

This episode takes a deep dive into the colorful and often bewildering world of Florida men, exploring recent antics that have sparked both laughter and concern. We also tackle the cultural debates simmering around Halloween decorations that are as creative as they are controversial. What ensues is a lively discussion on societal norms, creativity, and where the line between the two should be drawn.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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All right, so a Florida man threw a rock through an ICE agent's car window as his father was being arrested. Guess who also got arrested? Like father, like son. Look, they did a daddy-son outing. Oh, it's so great. 19-year-old Pasquale Martin is the son of the man federal agents were arresting at the time. He's charged with one count of throwing a deadly missile into an occupied vehicle, which is a second-degree felony. So he shattered, apparently, the agent's car. It was a rock large enough to do it, apparently. It busted out the whole thing. So he's the son of the neighbor of the guy that the guys that the Asians were arresting. Velasquez Martin took off after, but he was arrested nearby, so he wasn't able to run away. Don't don't play stupid games because you will absolutely win stupid prizes. A Florida skeleton strip show is rattling neighbors and sparking debate over Halloween decor, according to CBS 12. So in one Florida neighborhood, the front porch, it's a skeletal strip show. that features cigar smoking, a beer drinking, a skeleton on a pole, and some of the neighbors are upset. And I'm like, is this just, is this Footloose Part Two? Because it's literally a skeleton just sitting on a pole. What is cane? This is not bad.
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No, actually, it's just hilarious to see. See, this is the thing about decorations. For Christmas, there's a ceiling on how creative you can be for Christmas. With Halloween, there's no ceiling.
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Yeah.
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And I love that because you can just do anything and it offends someone. It'll always offend someone.
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Oh, completely. They said that. Someone said, I don't see stripping as an art. I don't want my kids exposed to that. You don't even know. The skeleton doesn't have... ding or a dong you can't tell what's what it's a skeleton that you get at costco there's nothing oh my god don't let your kids watch the halftime show yeah right yeah don't have that i mean if you're worried about a skeleton on a pole on somebody's porch where it's clearly doesn't show anything i mean victoria's secrets window fronts show way more than this guy's porch does then i don't know i just feel like it's it seems like it's Footloose part two. It's a gentleman's club.
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It's where people go to learn to be gentlemen.
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Okay, we'll go that far. A Florida man exposed himself to a child in the park and then urinated at the police station. Oh my gosh. He's lucky he's alive because some kids' parents don't mess around with that kind of stuff. Just saying. This guy. I'm not going to log in to continue reading this story. There's the headline.
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But also, you know, it was also about paying the bills, man. And it was just like hustling. And so I was out there kind of raising myself. Turning on the TV, started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with, you know, the Wonder Bread and five stacks of, you know, peanut butter. Come on. Macaroni and cheese. Are you talking about me?
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Young YG.
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Every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is just like fraying, man. And you're entertaining yourself. That's it. Whole thing. So just and then, you know, then this student that was in the back with his head down, all of a sudden started throwing the baseball a little faster than everyone else and started, you know, make a few free throws because I was sitting there practicing 500 of them every damn night. And in high school, I look up in the stands. My dad's back up there. OK. And it's like, man. And then he's bringing his friends and your captain of the team. And you're like, gee, you know, and it just saved me and it got me into college.
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OK, I'm trying to understand. Gavin Newsom is trying to sell us on the idea that he was raised poor. He goes on this podcast and because this is important to the left, the hosts are black Americans. And so I guess he figures that. He's going to be less. of an accessible or relatable character if he talks about his real past. And so he has to sit here and talk about how he ate Kraft mac and cheese and did all these. Look, first off, welcome back to the program. Dana Lash, we're at the top of the second hour. The chat's at Rumble. You can watch us through Radio Channel 347. Who does he think he's fooling with us? Who does, for real, who does he think he's fooling with us? Because this guy grew up one of literally the richest people in one of the richest families ever. He grew up in one of the five major families there in San Francisco. He was born to a guy who was an attorney for the Getty family. His dad was the attorney for Getty Oil. He was a judge. The dad was a judge. His mom was like a debutante. His grandfather on his mom's side was at Stanford and. He's also like they have the Pelosi like they're his aunt married into the Pelosi family. Yes, that Pelosi family. And they he grew up with the Gettys and his dad was this very, very wealthy attorney who sits who believes that he's on this NBA podcast and he's talking about paying his bills. I mean, we've there's a photo of him and we can throw these photos up where he's He's, I don't know, like maybe in his 20s and he's like visiting a Vintner and they're looking at like a bougie wine out in Napa. I mean, he grew up with the Getty family. His first house was a multimillion dollar home. His first home. This is him in his suit. You know, he's so poor. Look at him being all poor here on the left. He's so poor with his peroxided hair.
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The mac and cheese is probably right off camera.
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You're right, Cain. You just can't see the mac and cheese there. You just can't see it. You can't see it. His first wedding to Gilfoyle, who seems opportunistic, his first wedding was like half a million dollars or something like that, a quarter of a million dollars. And that was back in like the 80s. Because they're kind of up there. 80s or early 90s, I think. This, he was the most, he's in a Burberry scarf. That scarf is probably like a couple hundred dollars. For a scarf. He was named most stylish. He looks like that dude. He looks like Blaine from Pretty in Pink. That's a Burberry scarf. You know, he was so poor. He just wanted some mac and cheese, guys. He's so poor. Can you believe it? Oh my goodness. He had a wine business while he was in college. He went on vacation internationally when he was in college. You know, that's what people who are poor and can only eat mac and cheese. You know, he was hustling. Wonder bread and mac and cheese. That's how I grew up, bro. I'm reading the transcript. I'm going to say it again. Wonder bread and mac and cheese. That's how I grew up, bro. Did it have like gold in it? Did it have gold dust in the mac and cheese? Because that's the only way that he was probably eating it. Look, again, he grew up with the Gettys and the Pelosi's. And he was immediately had not he did not have to worry about anything. His education was taken care of everything. I don't know where he and then he grew up running around with Gordon Getty. And then he, with the investors in the Gettys, they started Plump Jack Wine. You know who he kind of reminds me of? Sidebar. From Borderlands. Handsome Jack, but he's not handsome. From Borderlands, doesn't he? Yeah, he totally does. So I don't know where he gets this. I love how the progressives, Hillary Clinton does this too. In order to be relatable, they have to refashion their growing or coming of age stories. Oh, I was so poor. None of you people were poor. None of these people were poor. Oh, my gosh. I would love to be the kind of poor Gavin Newsom it was. Right, Kane? I'd take that kind of poor. Gavin Newsom poor. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. We'd take that kind of poor. That's a good poor man. No, he's he's never he's really never had to work super hard at anything. He's been a part of those families. Look, I don't this is America and Americans can work hard and they can pass off whatever they want to their kids. You know, I don't mind anything like I don't care. That's why you work hard. But don't sit here and blow smoke up everybody's backside and act like, you know, you're basically on food stamps and you're living off government cheese when you ain't. OK, let's not. This guy would not know poor. He has no idea what poverty is. He has no idea what being poor is. And I can't believe these hosts didn't even call him out. That's really lame. You have this guy on your show and you're allowing yourself to get played like this because you want access to him. That's the only thing I can think of. The only reason that people don't call out other people is because they want access, right? That's the only reason. Or they fear. They have fear. It's usually one of the two. No, I would love to be poor like him. Good night. Gavin Newsom, you know, just saying he just did all those vacations. And, you know, your first house was multimillion dollars came right. That's how all that's how all of us are. All of us poor people. Our first homes were multimillion dollar homes in the Pacific Heights with ocean views. You know what I'm saying? We all know. We all know that. Goodness, goodness. So that is, I mean, he's really trying to reinvent himself. Is that his hip hop? Is that hip hop, Gavin? I think so, yeah. We've got a lot of different Gavin Newsoms here.
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Everything is hustling.
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So that's hip hop, Gavin. It's about paying the bills. It's about hustling. He's even doing the, I'm watching the video on my monitor. He's even doing the whole thing. Yeah, I'm hustling. I'm eating mac and cheese. I got white bread. What? He's doing that whole thing with his arms. I've never. It looks so awkward. It looks like he tore something as he's doing it. It just looks weird. There's another article. Susan Crabtree found it where it's a picture of him and it's Bill Getty and Andrew Getty. He's there with the Getty brothers. He's in the middle and they're getting ready to launch an upscale liquor shop. And do you know what the headline on this article is? The headline on the article is Old Money Backs New Liquor Shop. Old money came. It talks about how he's partnered with the Gettys to open up. Well, this is the first sentence. If you're the scion of a wealthy, privileged old money family, what do you do for a living? Well, you might try opening a high style liquor store. That's what several of the next generation of Gettys, Newsom and Pelosi's are doing. This is from 1991. And it mentions it's Gavin Newsom involved. It's it's also Bill Getty, who's the Bill Getty and then who's Andrew Getty. So his partners. Oh, and it gets into some of his other partners, too. You got a Pelosi in there. Who else? Oh, we got some more Getty cousins. There's some silent partners. Plumjack. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? Old money. But, you know, white bread and Kraft mac and cheese.
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That article didn't mention mac and cheese.
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You know, I'm looking at it right now. No, they're talking about valets and... I'm looking at it. Let me scan it. Do we see anything about white bread and mac and cheese? No, no, no, no, I don't. No, I do. They did say that they're going to have valet parking with purchase. That's actually not bad, you know, for a liquor store. But still, how funny is that? They're old money back in 1991. So how is he going on the show? This NBA podcast? And he's saying this and these guys aren't going. Wait a minute. Hold up. You literally grew up with the Gettys. You're like a member, not like you are a member of one of the most wealthiest families, not just in the United States, but specifically one of the wealthy families that run San Francisco. How did you grow up? I mean, you grew up with a cook. How do you have white bread and Kraft mac and cheese when you literally have people in your kitchen cooking for you every day? I mean, you live in a mansion in San Francisco. What are you doing? This is so crazy. I can't stand it when people do this stuff. Just be who you are. But it just shows you he, first off, how stereotypical is that? That he goes on an NBA podcast hosted by black hosts with probably not an audience that is very San Francisco white bread. And he says this stuff. Isn't that, aren't you, isn't he playing into a trope? By doing this. So how is that not inadvertently racist? Like when Hillary Clinton said that she had hot sauce in her bag when she was talking to a predominantly black audience. I mean, sure, white people like hot sauce. Who doesn't love some crystals? Hey, but you know what I'm saying? Like how? Why do that? Because they have no other way. What is he going to do? Well, hey guys, don't you want to pay more taxes? Yeah. No. So he's going to do this. It's so lame. Sometimes makeup can be super frustrating. It's too heavy. There are too many steps. And if you don't have the right tools, it just doesn't look natural. And we are in the natural healthy girl era of makeup right now. And that's why I think Jones Road Beauty really fills this. They really fill this niche, and they do such a great job at it. It's founded by makeup artist Bobby Brown, and it's a minimalist, clean brand designed to enhance your natural beauty. So their products help you get that very effortless look. no makeup, makeup, look, and very fast. One standout product is the Miracle Bomb. It's a multitasker that you can use as literally anything. It's a tint, it's a blush, it's a bronzer, it's a lip color, it's buildable, it gives you a natural glow in under a minute. And Jones Road Beauty also offers a full lineup of effortless skin-first staples, including their Just Enough Tinted Moisturizer. It's a very lightweight formula and it smooths and evens out your skin tone with a very soft touch of coverage and it's packed with skin-friendly ingredients. The Just Enough Tinted Moisturizer also keeps your skin moisturized without clogging your pores and it provides hydration and a natural, healthy glow. So for a limited time, you can use code Dana at jonesroadbeauty.com and you get a free cool gloss with your first purchase. So make sure to tell them that our show, The Dana Show, sent you. That's jonesroadbeauty.com, code Dana.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
SPEAKER 12 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 10 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, they finally had two people arrested over the theft at the Louvre over the jewels. Two suspects were arrested. A prosecutor, prosecutor in Paris, their office said that one of the men had been taken into custody. He was apparently trying to leave the country and board a flight from Charles de Gaulle Airport. They had I mean, I think it ended up being over one hundred and two million dollars. The estimated value or the not estimated, the measured value of these jewels. They knew how much they were worth. They said that the security protocols failed and now the country has a terrible image. Yeah, it is kind of true. We're going to talk more about that here coming up. Tropical storm warning issued along the U.S. coast as Melissa explodes into a category five storm. So this is the storm that's coming up the East Coast. They have the alert issued for stretches of water from south of Bermuda to east central Florida. And the winds are building in strength, rough seas. And it reached a Cat 5 status this morning and is expected to make landfall as it barrels towards Jamaica. So it's going to hit Jamaica first. And then they said, I mean, still kind of... It seems weird because after that, you could either go up into the Bahamian archipelago or you could go more towards Cuba. There are several ways to go. So it is going to hit Jamaica, though. They are convinced of that. That's terrifying. Category five. Also, this carplay. I keep hearing more and more about this. This does not want to open. The General Motors decision to get rid of CarPlay. They announced that they're going to axe it from that and Android Auto from all of their gas vehicles. And a lot of drivers on Reddit are trashing it. I think there's a lot. Why are you nodding like that? Kane doesn't have his Robert Evans glasses on today.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because they're going to use this as an upcharge. You're seeing these new cars now where they're like, oh, you want heated seats? That's going to be $10 a month. You want access to this? You want access to that? It's going to be this much a month. This is them attempting that upsell.
SPEAKER 02 :
And at purchases, like with a vehicle. Yeah, exactly. That's annoying. Like you just, and this, so the car play, that's like when you plug your phone in and then it will show up, you know, or it'll, it'll, it will connect wirelessly and it shows up on your car's display and then you can access your maps and messages and your music and all of that stuff. Uh, but some, I feel like this is a lame excuse. Ford CEO said they don't like the execution of it. And they said that, uh, Some of the concerns were that it gives Apple deeper access into their hardware so it can see too much control. That's lame. I don't believe that. You just plug your phone. That's so stupid. That's dumb. So I don't know. I agree with you. We don't need the in-app purchases with this stuff. That's goofy. Third person. I should say this for Florida, man, but it's not a Florida person. But it has to do with the death at a Disney resort in Florida. This is like the third person in two weeks. So that's why I really can't have this. It's not really a Florida man story per se, but it happened. This is what, three times now in two weeks. And the deceased man, they haven't determined his cause of death yet, but it was at the Contemporary Resort Hotel. Literally two weeks ago where another woman died. passed away and wasn't like one of these a suicide i think they were told for this guy it was a medical emergency and that's all they know that nobody else knows anything else it's kind of weird it's gonna be totally haunted there i'm saying like the happiest place in that maybe deadliest a strange ufo like aircraft is being tested in secret experiments at the u.s weapons base known as skunk works So that's interesting. They said that the testing facility has been known for housing secret objects and has developed a lot of classified technology. And some of these people on YouTube have been camping out near the land and they look out over it and they've been watching like these the tests of some of these things. And they said that they caught a mysterious UFO like aircraft. Look, I don't want to see that be leaked out into the public. Although I think that. It's probably planned. I think that the military wanted it to leak out like this, honestly. Because how are you... I mean, for crying out loud, you can't even get to that, what, Area 51 in New Mexico. Or not New Mexico, sorry. That's in Vegas or Nevada, right? Yeah, go up there. You can't even get near there. They... They have you in their sights. They're going to come and intercept. So I really find it hard to believe that somebody just posted on top of a ridge and was able to oversee all this stuff. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Our partners, people like Caltech, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun, which is, I mean, it's just a really smooth pump action shotgun. And they have the new upgrade, the new Gen 2, which is packed with a number of different upgrades. In fact, you have a five slot Picatinny style rail. that you can add grips lights you can keep it flush and sleek with a cap if you want you can enjoy a smoother pump action for a faster cleaner cycling plus further enhanced durability and it's still although the great things are there i mean it still weighs just under seven pounds unloaded it has a compact bullpup design you have maneuverability and tight spaces ambidextrous downward shell ejection seven plus one capacity for serious stopping power It's great for home defense. This is definitely a great home defense gun. Also for range days and anywhere in between. MSRP is only $639, so it's super affordable. Visit KeltecWeapons.com, made in the USA, family-owned. KeltecWeapons.com. Tell them that Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 11 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
SPEAKER 12 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm trying to understand the slam Frank thing. I actually saw this over the weekend and Steve's got the video to this. Are we going to get hit on YouTube if we play this, by the way? I hope not. So if you don't know what Slam Frank is, first off, it's a musical. And I don't like – I'm immediately predisposed to dislike it no matter where it comes from because it's a musical. I'm just not into musicals. I just don't have that suspension of disbelief to think that everybody – except maybe with the exception of the original West Side Story and The Sound of Music – I just, I have a hard time with it. This is supposed to be a musical satire in which Anne Frank is rewritten as the Netflix wunderkind, a Latinx pansexual girl named Anita. Here's a glimpse of Slam Frank as Kane dies.
SPEAKER 05 :
literary ambitions will be clocking top profits in non-fiction I'll revise to precision organize every thought and dot all these I's till I finish after I've read it I'll edit and edit until it's better this story needs to revision and baby I'm my own editor I'm finna re-write my diary until the publishers are hiring me and I'ma let out this fire in me
SPEAKER 02 :
This sounds horrible. So it's called Slam Frank. And I don't even know the way that it's there's a lot of controversy about it. It centers on the rewritten Anne Frank called Anita through the lens of intersectional, multi-ethnic, genderqueer, Afro-Latin hip hop. Slam Frank. What do you think of Slam Frank? Would you go see it? I immediately hate it. It's just pitchy.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've already seen too much.
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, and people are like, it's satire. Okay, then what is it satirizing? If it's satire, what is it? Where is the satire? What is the satirical aspect? What is the thing that it's... Is it satirizing rap? That's the thing. No one can answer that question. What is it satirizing then? Anybody?
SPEAKER 10 :
Got nothing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Here's Daily Mail's headline. Holocaust victim Anne Frank reimagined as pansexual Latina with non-binary lover and neurodiverse family. What is this even? And she's got one leg. And she's gluten intolerant. And colorblind. And deaf in one ear. What?
SPEAKER 10 :
She wins.
SPEAKER 02 :
I just want, I should do it. What is it? I mean, it's almost to the point where it's satirizing itself. It's so cringe. Oh, I've seen enough clips. I don't need to go see it in the theaters because there's not enough liquor in the world.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is how bad it is. Somebody first had the idea. Then they wrote it down, convinced others that it was a good idea. Those others agreed to it. Then they executed it as written. And here we are.
SPEAKER 02 :
It bypassed a lot of stops there in order to get on stage. It began as an Instagram parody. And the guy who created it was joking about making this production to make, quote, Latinx girlies feel included in the Holocaust. Now, Mike, wait a minute. Is it serious or because you can't tell anymore? And then they did like a full, it like inspired like a full production built around it. And that's how it, they said it was a fictional theater troupe trying to decolonize Anne Frank's story. And then it went to this absurdity of characters, et cetera. Is it satirizing wokery or is it satirizing non-wokery to the point where it is a joke? Kane, I can't break. Steve, what is your thought?
SPEAKER 10 :
My head is hurting.
SPEAKER 02 :
You wouldn't go see this.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. As we know on the show, I'm not a hater of musicals like you are, but... I know.
SPEAKER 02 :
I appreciate that about you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, no problem. But it's just Anne Frank was a tough person and tough life, and I don't know if we should be making light of that.
SPEAKER 02 :
I know. See, that's what I'm like. I'm like, hasn't... Callie, hasn't the girl been thrown off? I'm like, come on. I just... I think that this is where people try to get too smart and over their skis and they create something that does not hit the mark. And someone I think what they were trying to do was like a Hamilton, a Hamilton style thing. And they wanted to incorporate characters that were. uh like i like discovering marginalized identities which is a phrase i don't believe in because i think if in this day and age if you if any you're you can marginalize yourself but i don't think that people have the power anymore to marginalize you unless you're talking about critical race theory marginalizing its non-adherence is the only thing i can think of but they uh sold out 34 performances and either people think it's daring satire or just deeply offensive. Like Reddit is full of they hate it or they hate the people who hate it. That's it. There's no in between. There's no in between here.
SPEAKER 10 :
How big were these rooms they were selling out? Do we know?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, we don't know. Like the Book of Mormon they were saying was – when I think of satire, I think of Spaceballs. I think of Mel Brooks who was the genius. I think of Christopher Guest and like Best in Show, right? That movie is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Spinal Tap. That's what I think of when I think of satire. I don't think of rewriting Anne Frank as like a genderqueer whatever Latinx doesn't know what she is type of thing. How does that, that doesn't make it modern. What the hell does that even mean? Someone said they're trying to modernize. How do you modernize Anne Frank? That's so stupid. Shut up. She's a historical figure. She was a real person and you are de-othering her or othering her by stripping her of her identity. That's actually the irony in this whole thing. I mean, were they trying to do unintentional irony? That's a lot. That's a long journey to get to that end with this. Of course, this is, it's like they Netflixed her. Like how, you know, Netflix changes and ruins everything. Oh my gosh. Like they're, I think they're doing another Pride and Prejudice. Can you stop it? We don't need another damn Pride and Prejudice. We don't need another damn Jane Austen story. Stop. We don't need any of it. It's all annoying. Othering her, though. That's what this is. So I just I let's not and say we did. Let's just and they called it Slam Frank. That was cringy. That clip that we played. That's why I hate musicals. I can't sit there in a theater and hear that kind of performance and go, wow, that's really good. I can't. I can't. It's just the cheesy over the top delivery. I'm sorry, theater kids. It's just not my jam. Sorry. Just not. Just not. So I don't know. They said it sparked controversy. I think the guy did it. Maybe it might be a leftist. Otherwise, they would have burnt the theater down already.
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Join us in an exploration of the current political impasse as the US government shutdown continues for an unprecedented length of time. We discuss the roles of major political parties, their strategies, and the impact on the American populace with special attention given to the ramifications on SNAP benefits. This episode provides insights into the steadfastness of the Republican approach and the lack of compromise from both sides.
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SPEAKER 25 :
And now that's what's happening. But very quickly before I let you go, we're now in the second longest shutdown in US history. When will President Trump meet with Democrats to try to bring this shutdown to a close and get federal workers their paychecks back again, Mr. Secretary?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Chris, I'm going to have to reject the premise of your question. Why did President Trump have to meet with Democrats? Democrats just need to go into the Senate and vote to end the shutdown. Let's look at the numbers. But President Trump has said in the past it's up to the president. He's the president. No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 25 :
No, he said that in the past. He said you have to be a leader. The president has to lead. You have to get people into a room. You have to get a deal. When's he going to do that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, he is leading and there's no deal to do with Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer is trading off his polls. What's different than when he passed a clean CR in the spring? It's his polls. You know, he's the whole country's being held captive to AOC's polls. Well, let's look at the numbers. It's 52 to 3. 52 Republicans have voted, I believe it's 11 times, to reopen the government. Three Democrats have. And right here, right now, I would urge moderate Democratic senators to come across the aisle, reopen the government, because I'll tell you, we're starting to eat in the muscle here.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's Scott Besson talking Sunday morning. The ongoing shutdown. Is this... Did I... read correctly that this is the longest in american history that we've had in terms of a shutdown or am i mistaken on that because we're going into what day 27 i think for this so i think it actually is one of the longest that we've seen i mean i and i gotta tell you i'm very um I am very interested in and very pleased with the way that Republicans have kind of kept to the plan here. Kept to the plan and have refused to fold. And that's incredibly important. I can't tell people how important that is because, good night, how long have we been through this where... Every single time we've had one of these incidents where we're we're fighting over shutting down the government previously, you would have Republicans that were terrified and they wouldn't want to stay on message. They fight with each other and then they some of the other ones would use the opportunity to go after each other for primaries or whatever. This is really I got to tell you how unusual this is to see Republicans sticking together like this. I mean, it's really weird to me. So welcome to the program. Dana Lash, with you, we're at the top of this first hour on Monday. And we're going to get into all of the latest with us. We've got some things to touch on. And of course, you know, I have my debate coming up. That's going to be next week. So it should be... We'll talk a little bit more about that. It should be fun. But this ongoing... I mean, we keep hearing the headlines about SNAP and... I just was anybody else shocked, by the way, that so many people I mean, I knew that there were a lot of individuals that were receiving the supplemental, you know, the government food stamp program. It is a really shocking number. I mean, really, the number of people that are on it. It's I mean, how what's the percentage of the American population? I mean, that's a significant number of people, all because Democrats don't want to come to the negotiating table. And it's really all them. I don't know how anybody can sit here and make this out. And I don't think, like I said, the public is buying it. I keep an eye on some of the approval ratings for the administration. And Democrats are not faring well. And I think part of the reason why is because they're still talking about all the stupid stuff that cost them the election. I mean, they're still talking about... illegal immigration they are discussed i mean still everything they don't even have a strategy they don't have a plan i don't even know what their plan is the only person who is at least i can't even believe i'm saying this maybe kind of throwing some policies out there actually besides john fetterman might be bernie sanders but i mean it's all socialist nonsense So this is a very, very interesting thing. I'm just good on Republicans for holding their ground. So that's the latest. We got some of the longest, the shutdown longest so far in recent memory. And then the snap expiration is set to hit 40 million people. That's a lot. 40 million individuals. So currently, the benefits that are due out next month are $8 billion. And we only apparently have $5 to $6 billion in the coffers for it. So we're going to be running into the... We'll be running into the red with it. So we have... It's $8 billion a month. That's $8 billion a month. That's a lot. So... Eight billion dollars a month getting into this. We have five to six billion. There's a memo that was reported by Axios from the USDA, and they were looking at the contingency funding. They said they can't use emergency funds for food stamps. Didn't Trump get like some billionaires to cover that in some of these other states? We literally had that headline last week. You know, maybe if we had a better economic environment, we wouldn't have to have so many people on food stamps. Maybe if we didn't have the IRS swindling people out of half their income every year, you wouldn't have to have so many people on food stamps. It just might be a thought. None of this is going to get fixed from the top up. I mean, that's pretty obvious. So this memo said, can't spend no emergency funds for this. They have what I told you about in the bank in terms of a contingency. But That's going to hit all that's going to hit. So how is that going to work for the left? They're really trying to get ahead of that messaging. The website of the U.S. government on snap eligibility. You got to see what they had up on their website. They said Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times for. to not fund the food stamp program. So bottom line, the well has run dry. This is literally on the government site. And at the same time, they said there will be no benefits issued November 1st. We are approaching an inflection point for Senate Democrats. They can continue to hold out for health care for illegal aliens and gender mutilation procedures, or they can reopen the government. So mothers and babies and the most vulnerable among us can receive critical nutrition assistance. Now, I'm with you in terms of big government and government entitlements. That's not what's at issue here. The issue is that Republicans with this messaging are playing to the middle for sure. There's nothing wrong with what they said. I mean, it's really one party that's that's preventing this from passing. I mean, it's literally only one party that's preventing this from passing. And so the push on this. And the messaging with illegal immigration, that's a good one because that's one thing that independents flock to the right on every election since 2016. And so now we have this. How are Democrats going to deal with this when it all comes to pass? I think we're going to probably, well, maybe we can run out the clock and then get some of those pocket rescissions in. Maybe we can do that. Maybe that's a good play. I mean, if Democrats don't want to come in, put those pocket rescissions out there. Just saying, there's some options here. Now, we're going to come back to this. In addition, this story, Bill Mellugian was reporting on this. He's been covering this all weekend. The issue with the illegal alien truck driver. Do you guys remember the one who got into a DUI crash in Ontario? This was Tuesday of last week. He had a Californian commercial driver's license, but they're saying it's the fault of the feds because they gave him the work permit. Now, who was the president of the United States when his work permit came to pass in twenty twenty two? Crossed the border illegally in 22. He was released into the United States. Who was in the White House at that particular point in time? It wasn't Trump. It was Joe Biden. So he crossed the border illegally in March 2022, was released back into the United States. And then he was given his CDL. And the official with the California State Transportation Agency had said that that guy's CDL is a federal real ID. And that so essentially he's got a federal ID. So I would refer you. They sent him when they were when Mlusion was asking questions, he was referred to the California Transportation Agency. The government referred him to the DMV. So this all happened under Joe Biden. This is something that Newsom is really struggling with in terms of messaging. He won't really address it other than to say that when something like this happens, it's the fault of the Fed somehow, except when these people have come in, they've come in under the previous administration and have benefited from policies passed by the previous administration. I mean, it happened under the regime literally that that Gavin Newsom is not only a part of because he's a Democrat and that was a Democrat administration, but it happened under an administration that he supported. I mean, he endorsed Biden Harris. He endorsed all these policies. He operates, excuse me, a sanctuary state in California. And they were the ones that issued the license to this guy, who was the governor of California at the time, Gavin Newsom. So this all comes back to Gavin Newsom every single time. And if you can still work If you can apply for work authorization and you come to the country illegally and then you make an asylum claim and you're here for six months while that's processed, how are you able to apply for a work authorization in that period? In Italy, hell, you can't even buy a car. But you can sit here and get a commercial driver's license in the United States of America? This is asinine. Go look it up. You can't. In fact, you have to buy under a certain horsepower when you're allowed to buy a car. Go check out some of these other nations for people who come into the country. And those are just if you come in legally. Very different if you come in illegally. We have more on the way as we roll towards headlines. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's the folks over at All Family Pharmacy. All Family Pharmacy is the place to go to stock up on all your medications. You've got your everyday medications. You've got your ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. You've got your NAD+. You have your mimbendazole. It's a bunch of other stuff I can't pronounce. Basically, whatever you need, they have it. They also have a flu kit. They have a sinus infection kit, which is something I actually am going to buy another one of now that I'm thinking of it. 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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
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It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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That's pretty awesome.
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Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
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Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
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Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
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Well, they finally had two people arrested over the theft at the Louvre over the jewels. Two suspects were arrested. A prosecutor, prosecutor in Paris, their office said that one of the men had been taken into custody. He was apparently trying to leave the country and board a flight from Charles de Gaulle Airport. They had I mean, I think it ended up being over one hundred and two million dollars. The estimated value or the not estimated, the measured value of these jewels. They knew how much they were worth. They said that the security protocols failed and now the country has a terrible image. Yeah, it is kind of true. We're going to talk more about that here coming up. Tropical storm warning issued along the U.S. coast as Melissa explodes into a category five storm. So this is the storm that's coming up the East Coast. They have the alert issued for stretches of water from south of Bermuda to east central Florida. And the winds are building in strength, rough seas. And it reached a Cat 5 status this morning and is expected to make landfall as it barrels towards Jamaica. So it's going to hit Jamaica first. And then they said, I mean, still kind of... It seems weird because after that, you could either go up into the Bahamian archipelago or you could go more towards Cuba. There are several ways to go. So it is going to hit Jamaica, though. They are convinced of that. That's terrifying. Category five. Also, this car play. I keep hearing more and more about this. This does not want to open. The General Motors decision to get rid of CarPlay. They announced that they're going to axe it from that and Android Auto from all of their gas vehicles. And a lot of drivers on Reddit are trashing it. I think there's a lot. Why are you nodding like that? Kane doesn't have his Robert Evans glasses on today.
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because they're going to use this as an upcharge. You're seeing these new cars now where they're like, oh, you want heated seats? That's going to be $10 a month. You want access to this? You want access to that? It's going to be this much a month. This is them attempting that upsell.
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In-app purchases, like with a vehicle. That's annoying. Like you just, and this, so the car play, that's like when you plug your phone in and then it will show up, you know, or it'll, it'll, it will connect wirelessly and it shows up on your car's display and then you can access your maps and messages and your music and all of that stuff. Uh, but some, I feel like this is a lame excuse. Ford CEO said they don't like the execution of it. And they said that, uh, Some of the concerns were that it gives Apple deeper access into their hardware so it can see too much control. That's lame. I don't believe that. You just plug your phone. That's so stupid. That's dumb. So I don't know. I agree with you. I don't we don't need the in-app purchases with this stuff. That's goofy. Third person. I should say this for Florida, man, but it's not a Florida person. But it has to do with the death at a Disney resort in Florida. This is like the third person in two weeks. So that's why I really can't have this. It's not really a Florida man story per se, but it happened. This is what, three times now in two weeks. And the deceased man, they haven't determined his cause of death yet, but it was at the Contemporary Resort Hotel. Literally two weeks ago where another woman died. Passed away. And wasn't, like, one of these a suicide, I think? They were told for this guy it was a medical emergency. And that's all they know. That nobody else knows anything else. It's kind of weird. It's going to be totally haunted there. I'm saying, like, the happiest place and the maybe deadliest. A strange UFO-like aircraft is being tested in secret experiments at the U.S. weapons base known as Skunk Works. So that's interesting. They said that the testing facility has been known for housing secret objects and has developed a lot of classified technology. And some of these people on YouTube have been camping out near the land and they look out over it and they've been watching like these the tests of some of these things. And they said that they caught a mysterious UFO like aircraft. Look, I don't want to see that be leaked out into the public. Although I think that. It's probably planned. I think that the military wanted it to leak out like this, honestly, because how are you? I mean, for crying out loud, you can't even get to that, what, Area 51 in New Mexico. Or not New Mexico, sorry. That's in Vegas or Nevada, right? Yeah, go up there. You can't even get near there. They have you in their sights. They're going to come and intercept. So I really find it hard to believe that somebody just posted on top of a ridge and was able to oversee all this stuff. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Sometimes makeup can be super frustrating. It's too heavy. There are too many steps. And if you don't have the right tools, it just doesn't look natural. And we are in the natural healthy girl era of makeup right now. And that's why I think Jones Road Beauty really fills this. They really fill this niche and they do such a great job at it. It's founded by makeup artist Bobby Brown, and it's a minimalist concept. clean brand designed to enhance your natural beauty. So their products help you get that very effortless, no makeup makeup look and very fast. One standout product is the Miracle Bomb. It's a multitasker that you can use as literally anything. It's a tint, it's a blush, it's a bronzer, it's a lip color, it's buildable, it gives you a natural glow in under a minute. And Jones Road Beauty also offers a full lineup of effortless skin first staples, including their Just Enough Tinted Moisturizer. It's a very lightweight formula and it smooths and evens out your skin tone with a very soft touch of coverage and it's packed with skin-friendly ingredients. The Just Enough Tinted Moisturizer also keeps your skin moisturized without clogging your pores and it provides hydration and a natural, healthy glow. So for a limited time, you can use code Dana at jonesroadbeauty.com and you get a free cool gloss with your first purchase. So make sure to tell them that our show, The Dana Show, sent you. That's jonesroadbeauty.com, code Dana.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
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Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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That's pretty awesome.
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Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
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Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
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Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
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Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt. who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab.
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I don't believe you. By the way, this is all an emotional ploy to try to really claim the hurt and indignation that Americans justifiably felt following 9-11 to rob people of that sentiment and weaponize it to emotionally blackmail people into endorsing or voting for a candidate who not only refuses outright to condemn jihad and that's what that means when he refuses to condemn the phrase globalize the intifada And weaponizing it, using it against people so that they can't criticize him for doing things like campaigning with the imam, who is one of the big 9-11 unindicted co-conspirators. This is all just, it's an emotional ploy. Welcome back to the program. Chats at Rumble. Channel 347 is where you can watch us do the radio program. It's a big, big deal. He's you remember that Norm Macdonald tweet? And Norm Macdonald was a was an actual friend of mine. Do you remember that tweet that he had put out where he had said? And this was on December 16th, 2016. He goes, what terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device and kill 50 million Americans. Imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims. Ma'am, Donnie is doing the tweet. He's like the tweet in real time. That's it. He's worried about his maid. And I don't believe that story about his aunt. I think that he's a liar. Do you believe that? This is the original Norm Macdonald tweet. He's the tweet. Ma'am Donnie's the tweet right now. What did he say about the unindicted co-conspirator, Siraj Wahaj, the guy who... actually testified on behalf of the terrorist whose kids, all of his kids are serving life sentences for kidnapping and running a legit terror training camp for kids in New Mexico. I mean, that guy donated. He was able to raise money for Mamdani through care. This is crazy. There's a piece that we have that's going to be coming out later today on Substack. on my subsect, that gets into, that Lorraine has drafted, that gets into the Mandani campaign. And the New York Post had already gotten him for accepting illegal donations. I think it was from foreigners that were getting up into something like $13,000. But now it looks like he's taken I mean, he has thousands of dollars from the CCP. He has thousands of dollars in illegal campaign donations from foreigners. He's taken money that was raised by this unindicted 9-11 co-conspirator whose kids, again, all of his kids, like all of them. are in jail because they were running a kiddie terror training camp. Remember, Siraj Wahaj's kids, this was some years ago, they were arrested after one of them kidnapped a kid and went from Georgia to New Mexico. And then they were running this terror training camp. And one of the things that they did was they were preparing to send them into schools, to shoot up schools. It's like one of the things that came out. They raided it. And so that's what he did. The Wahaj had funneled money through CARE. through their unity and justice fund. So that is, I mean, this is a thing that, and we'll get into more of this tomorrow, but he's got a lot of questions. New York Post got into, I mean, he had taken a lot of money, reports in New York Post, from a lot of these foreign contributions. Anything that he can to deflect from the suspicions around his funding. And I just don't believe that with his aunt. Do you believe that with his aunt? No. Let's make that all about you, Mandani. Let's make it all about you. Get in there and make it about you. I don't believe that about your aunt. Just saying, what do you think of the families? How does he think the families felt? Who had loved ones murdered by the sort of Islamism that he refuses to condemn? I mean, forget about your aunt and your self-victimization. Let's look at how the real victims felt and whether or not people lost someone in 9-11. It was an attack on every American. How do the real victims feel with this? That's the big question. But I don't believe him. He's trying so hard to weaponize all of this into some kind of identity politic cudgel, because he thinks that that's going to be able to get him out of all this. It's going to be able to deflect from criticisms and investigations into how much money he's raised. But this is critical race theory. Right. I mean, he's a guy from Uganda who is literally a socialist. He's a member of the really weirdly named Democratic Socialists of America, which is they're just socialists. They just didn't want to put nationalists in front of it because, you know, the whole Nazi thing. No, he says that Mamdani says that Muslims were the real victims of 9-11. Muslims like his aunt. Screw you, people. What? I don't believe that. One of my friends said if only he were transgender, he would have hit the power ball of oppression. He would have had all intersectional boxes checked because he's he and he really focused like how we did last week. You know, the picture where he was eating rice with his hands in a restaurant. I mean, this guy was born into splendor. He's a rich kid. He's everything that Marxists claim to hate, but all aspire to be. He only did that to virtue signal about culture. That's all he did. I mean, there's no reason to eat with your damn hands sitting in a five-star restaurant with a white tablecloth. That's just you trying to virtue signal with your food obnoxiously. But he checks all those intersectional boxes. But nobody believes this. Nobody believes. I don't believe that he had an aunt. I don't know why. The idea that he's going to go to victimhood on this is insane to me. This is a guy who supports Sharia law. He supports eliminating Western jurisprudence and adopting Sharia. And it's weird. The people who were standing behind him in his press conference when he was in the Bronx, they weren't even here when 9-11 happened. None of these people or their families even lived in this country. When he did his little press conference and he got all teary-eyed, come on. What about the people who had to jump from the buildings to save their lives? I feel bad for those people. I feel bad for the people that were at Cantor Fitzgerald. You know, they also stopped taking the subway after 9-11. Because they had all their co-workers murdered by Islamists. Wow. For the same reasons. Just asinine. He's tone deaf. I can't believe New Yorkers are going to vote for this. Because they're so desperate to position themselves prostrate in front of the altar of critical race theory. I mean, it's just wild. His dad had said that America was the root of all evil and the inspiration from Nazis. This is his dad. Do we have this? Can we play this audio? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is Zohran Mamdani's father. Listen to this.
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America is the genesis of what we call settler colonialism. And the American model was exported all around the world. Abraham Lincoln generalized the solution of reservations. They herded American Indians into separate territories. For the Nazis, this was the inspiration. Hitler realized two things. One, that genocide was doable. It is possible to do genocide. That's what Hitler realized. Second thing Hitler realized is that you don't have to have a common citizenship. You can differentiate between people. The Nuremberg laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway, the US put Indians in reservations. The US invented the model
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Yes, because there was no genocide before the 1900s. I mean, heaven forbid. This guy, I feel like Zohra Mandani's father is exactly the sort of immigrant that we don't want here because he's hateful. He's divisive. He's not interested in being a part of the American family. He has no animating spirit of liberty. He's against e pluribus unum. And he's against Western jurisprudence. So what is the point of him being here if not to colonize? He's a colonizer. Zoran Mamdani's father is a colonizer. An elitist colonizer. Zoray Mandani is a colonizer. He's trying to colonize New York. The left doesn't hate colonization, especially since they're the ones behind most of it. Just like they were colonizing land in Georgia when Democrats, under their Democrat god, Andrew Jackson, decided to defy a Supreme Court order and send indigenous Americans on the trail of genocide. And then afterwards, for generations thereafter, they put them on this land that they can't even purchase anymore. that the government owns and that they have to have these weird little leases out with the people who live on the land. To say nothing of the internment camps in the 40s. That's when Democrats put more people in camps. They had their own little soft version. If anything, Democrats patterned a lot of what they do after the Nazis. Gun control, lists, camps. I think he's got it a little backwards here. I just think if you hate America that much, that should be used against you during your evaluation period to determine whether or not you should become a citizen of this nation. No one owes it to anybody coming from anywhere else to let you in. You're not special. You're not unique. This guy doesn't bring any skills, trade, or intelligence. All he brings is this barbaric hate from a hellscape that has since faded into the ether. And it's just a war of attrition for his ideology now. There's no there's nothing big from it. He has no culture. Everything that they have, they stole from the Persians and everything else. Come on. That is who Mandani's father is. He is a hateful, bigoted colonizer that hates our American way of life. And he wants to eradicate Western jurisprudence. And that's the truth of it. And Mandani's just like him. This is what New York is getting. I've never seen so many people vote to colonize themselves before. And that's what's happening in Manhattan with this guy's mayor. And they think that they're going to get what some sort of utopia, which actually is Latin literally for nothing. You think you're going to get some kind of government run utopia? Well, you will. But who thinks it's going to be a good thing? That's the measure. Just it's it's this kind of stuff that is hateful. That is hateful. To say that, well, it came from it didn't come from that, actually. I mean, let's not also forget Margaret Singer and Democrats own little genocide that they're still they're still perpetuating today even. with abortion on demand going after the undesirables. Everyone knows that that's how that got started in the early 1900s, right? You had the population control movement that decided to put the veneer on itself and call it family planning so it sounded a little bit better. But the whole purpose was to go into neighborhoods where these individuals thought undesirables lived and to curb the undesirable population. That is the whole point of it. The euthanasia movement, the abortion on demand movement, it was just population control of demographics that they disliked. And that's the far left. Hmm. The Nazis did take inspiration from that. That's for sure. just ridiculous we don't owe anybody any kind of you don't you don't owe anyone fellow citizenship or something like that our partners that help make it possible it's the folks over at ammo squared they have you covered for all of your ammunition needs it's a very worry-free easy simple solution you're collecting ammo for the future and you're avoid getting caught empty-handed everybody remembers panic buying of 2020 everything all the shells are empty ammo prices like basically cost a kidney And everybody regretted everything. There's some bad people settled for some bad stuff. I remember you can choose from over 70 calibers, set your monthly budgeted ammo squared and then let them curate your supply automatically. So you set up, forget it, ship it when you need it. And it's all stored in a secure climate controlled facility. It keeps your ammo fresh and safe until you decide to get it delivered. There's no minimums, no hidden fees. You get free shipping and orders over $250. Great. If you're trying out new calibers, you want to top off some training rounds, stay ready for whatever comes next. And you can join over 100,000 members like me and a community with thousands of five-star reviews. My only regret is that I didn't invent the business. Visit AmosSquared.com.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
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Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
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Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
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Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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The house looks just like the one next to it and the one next to that.
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They're here. I grew up watching the Poltergeist movie. I've probably seen it about 50 times before I bought the house. And now since I bought the house, now probably another 50. I wanted to bring the feeling of the eerie charm, but also have it warm and inviting. I wanted to have a balance between modern amenities, especially there's a lot of families that come here. And so kids may not want to play on the Atari. They might want to play on the Xbox. on the app on the smart TV instead. And again, it's bringing people together and families together. And what do you love to do around a fire? Signature poltergeist s'mores at the poltergeist house. What's interesting is that every time somebody inquires... Would you go there?
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Would you live there, Cain?
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Would I live there?
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No. Would you stay the night there? I mean, I know it's just where the movie was filmed, but it's still weird.
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I might stay the night there. I would not want to live there, though.
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You wouldn't want to live there? No. It's just where they filmed it. Yeah. It's not on an actual Indian burial ground. I know. No, that didn't happen.
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But it still would draw attention from more public than I care to interact with.
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Yeah. I wouldn't want people coming to my, like driving by my house. Right. Like just saying. It's funny because one of the houses that we when we first moved here, our first house was across the street from the first murder since Bonnie and Clyde in our town. And it was a dude who was a crossdresser and he ended up chopping up his wife. It was his second wife and keeping her in the back of the closet. And then ultimately they found it. And it was like a. You know how they have the phrase assassination vacation where you go to these, like you go to the Ford Theater and you go to all these morbid, you know, macabre places in history. And there were people who kind of treated the house like that. And after it happened, and apparently it was like in the late, apparently it was like in the late 90s when it happened. And one of the older neighbors there was saying that, the original neighbors was saying that people would, there would be traffic. People would be driving down the street to look at the house. That was really weird after hearing that because I'm like, oh!
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Then every Halloween you'd have to really decorate the hell out of that house.
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No, no, no, no, never. Never. They didn't do it. The people who moved in after were very, I would never saw the poltergeist house.
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If I were all the poltergeist house.
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Oh my gosh. I'd be charging for admission. I'd Airbnb that thing. What? I'd pay off my neighbors to just live with it. And then I would have a very controlled, but oh my gosh. Right. Just for Halloween? I mean, they only filmed the thing there. It is creepy, though. It is. We have a lot more on the way. The latest with Ma'am Donnie. It's like the Tea Party all over again. We're going to talk about also some of the big government stuff trying to kill constitutionalism within the GOP. Stick with us. Our partners, people like Caltech, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun, which is, I mean, it's just a really smooth pump action shotgun. And they have the new upgrade, the new Gen 2, which is packed with a number of different upgrades. In fact, you have a five-slot Picatinny-style rail that you can add grips, lights, you can keep it flush and sleek with a cap if you want. You can enjoy a smoother pump action for a faster, cleaner cycling, plus further enhanced durability. And it still, all the other great things are there. I mean, it still weighs just under seven pounds unloaded. It has a compact bullpup design. You have maneuverability in tight spaces, ambidextrous downward shell ejection, seven plus one capacity for serious stopping power. It's great for home defense. This is definitely a great home defense gun. Also for range days and anywhere in between. MSRP is only $639, so it's super affordable. Visit KeltecWeapons.com. Made in the USA. Family in. KeltecWeapons.com. Tell them that Dana sent you.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
SPEAKER 18 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 17 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
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But also, you know, it was also about paying the bills, man. And it was just like hustling. And so I was out there kind of raising myself, turning on the TV, started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with, you know, the Wonder Bread and five stacks of, you know, peanut butter. Man, it's like the White Stack Five story. You know what I mean? Come on. Macaroni and cheese. Are you talking about me? Young YG. Every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is just like fraying, man. And you're entertaining yourself. That's it. Whole thing. So just and then, you know, then this student that was in the back with his head down, all of a sudden started throwing the baseball a little faster than everyone else and started, you know, make a few free throws because I was sitting there practicing 500 of them every damn night. And in high school, I look up in the stands. My dad's back up there. OK. And it's like, man. And then he's bringing his friends and your captain of the team. And you're like, gee, you know, and it just saved me and it got me into college.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK, I'm trying to understand. Gavin Newsom is trying to sell us on the idea that he was raised poor. He goes on this podcast and because this is important to the left, the hosts are black Americans. And so I guess he figures that. He's going to be less of an accessible or relatable character if he talks about his real past. And so he has to sit here and talk about how he ate Kraft mac and cheese and did all these. Look, first off, welcome back to the program. Dana Lash. We're at the top of the second hour. The chat's at Rumble. You can watch us through Radio Channel 347. he think he's fooling with us who does for real who does he think he's fooling with us because this is this guy grew up one of literally like the richest people in one of the richest families ever he grew up in one of the like one of the five major families there in san francisco He was born to a guy who was an attorney for the Getty family. His dad was the attorney for Getty Oil. He was a judge. The dad was a judge. His mom was like a debutante. His grandfather on his mom's side was at Stanford and. He's also like they have the Pelosi like they're his aunt married into the Pelosi family. Yes, that Pelosi family. And they he grew up with the Gettys and his dad was this very, very wealthy attorney who sits who believes that he's on this NBA podcast and he's talking about paying his bills. I mean, we've there's a photo of him and we can throw these photos up where he's He's, I don't know, like maybe in his 20s and he's like visiting a Vintner and they're looking at like a bougie wine out in Napa. I mean, he grew up with the Getty family. His first house was a multimillion dollar home. His first home. This is him in his suit. You know, he's so poor. Look at him being all poor here on the left. He's so poor with his peroxided hair.
SPEAKER 12 :
The mac and cheese is probably right off camera.
SPEAKER 13 :
You're right, Cain. You just can't see the mac and cheese there. You just can't see it. You can't see it. His first wedding to Gilfoyle, who seems opportunistic, his first wedding was like half a million dollars or something like that, a quarter of a million dollars. And that was back in like the 80s. Because they're kind of up there. 80s or early 90s, I think. This, he was the most, he's in a Burberry scarf. That scarf is probably like a couple hundred dollars. For a scarf. He was named most stylish. He looks like that dude. He looks like Blaine from Pretty in Pink. That's a Burberry scarf. You know, he was so poor. He just wanted some mac and cheese, guys. He's so poor. Can you believe it? Oh my goodness. He had a wine business while he was in college. He went on vacation internationally when he was in college. You know, that's what people who are poor and can only eat mac and cheese. You know, he was hustling. Wonder bread and mac and cheese. That's how I grew up, bro. I'm reading the transcript. I'm going to say it again. Wonder bread and mac and cheese. That's how I grew up, bro. Did it have like gold in it? Did it have gold dust in the mac and cheese? Because that's the only way that he was probably eating it. Look, again, he grew up with the Gettys and the Pelosi's. And he was immediately had not he did not have to worry about anything. His education was taken care of everything. I don't know where he and then he grew up running around with Gordon Getty. And then he, with the investors in the Gettys, they started Plump Jack Wine. You know who he kind of reminds me of? Sidebar. From Borderlands. Handsome Jack, but he's not handsome. From Borderlands, doesn't he? Yeah, he totally does. So I don't know where he gets this. I love how the progressives, Hillary Clinton does this too. In order to be relatable, they have to refashion their growing or coming of age stories. Oh, I was so poor. None of you people were poor. None of these people were poor. Oh, my gosh. I would love to be the kind of poor Gavin Newsom it was. Right, Kane? I'd take that kind of poor. Gavin Newsom poor. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. We'd take that kind of poor. That's a good poor man. No, he's he's never he's really never had to work super hard at anything. He's been a part of those families. Look, I don't this is America and Americans can work hard and they can pass off whatever they want to their kids. You know, I don't mind anything like I don't care. That's why you work hard. But don't sit here and blow smoke up everybody's backside and act like, you know, you're basically on food stamps and you're living off government cheese when you ain't. OK, let's not. This guy would not know poor. He has no idea what poverty is. He has no idea what being poor is. And I can't believe these hosts didn't even call him out. That's really lame. You have this guy on your show and you're allowing yourself to get played like this because you want access to him? That's the only thing I can think of. The only reason that people don't call out other people is because they want access, right? That's the only reason. Or they fear. They have fear. It's usually one of the two. No, I would love to be poor like him. Good night. Gavin Newsom. You know, just saying. He had all those vacations. You know, your first house was multi-million dollars, Kane, right? That's how all of us are. All of us poor people. Our first homes were multi-million dollar homes. In the Pacific Heights with ocean views. You know what I'm saying? We all know. We all know that. Goodness. Goodness. So... That is, I mean, he's really trying to reinvent himself. Is that his hip hop? Is that hip hop, Gavin? I think so, yeah. We've got a lot of different Gavin Newsoms here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Everything is hustling.
SPEAKER 13 :
So that's hip hop, Gavin. It's about paying the bills. It's about hustling. He's even doing the, I'm watching the video on my monitor. He's even doing the whole thing. Yeah, I'm hustling. I'm eating mac and cheese. I got white bread. What? He's doing that whole thing with his arms. I've never. It looks so awkward. It looks like he tore something as he's doing it. It just looks weird. There's another article. Susan Crabtree found it where it's a picture of him and it's Bill Getty and Andrew Getty. He's there with the Getty brothers. He's in the middle and they're getting ready to launch an upscale liquor shop. And do you know what the headline on this article is? The headline on the article is Old Money Backs New Liquor Shop. Old money came. It talks about how he's partnered with the Gettys to open up. Well, this is the first sentence. If you're the scion of a wealthy, privileged old money family, what do you do for a living? Well, you might try opening a high style liquor store. That's what several of the next generation of Gettys, Newsom and Pelosi's are doing. This is from 1991. And it mentions it's Gavin Newsom involved. It's it's also Bill Getty, who's the Bill Getty and then who's Andrew Getty. So his partners. Oh, and it gets into some of his other partners, too. You got a Pelosi in there. Who else? Oh, we got some more Getty cousins. There's some silent partners. Plumjack. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. Old money. But, you know, white bread and Kraft mac and cheese.
SPEAKER 12 :
That article didn't mention mac and cheese.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, I'm looking at it right now. No, they're talking about valets and... I'm looking at it. Let me scan it. Do we see anything about white bread and mac and cheese? No, no, no, no, I don't. No, I do. They did say that they're going to have valet parking with purchase. That's actually not bad, you know, for a liquor store. But still, how funny is that? They're old money back in 1991. So how is he going on the show? This NBA podcast? And he's saying this and these guys aren't going. Wait a minute. Hold up. You literally grew up with the Gettys. You're like a member, not like you are a member of one of the most wealthiest families, not just in the United States, but specifically one of the wealthy families that run San Francisco. How did you grow up? I mean, you grew up with a cook. How do you have white bread and Kraft mac and cheese when you literally have people in your kitchen cooking for you every day? I mean, you live in a mansion in San Francisco. What are you doing? This is so crazy. I can't stand it when people do this stuff. Just be who you are. But it just shows you, he, first off, how stereotypical is that? That he goes on an NBA podcast hosted by black hosts with probably not an audience that is very San Francisco white bread. And he says this stuff. Isn't that, aren't you, isn't he playing into a trope? By doing this. So how is that not inadvertently racist? Like when Hillary Clinton said that she had hot sauce in her bag when she was talking to a predominantly black audience. I mean, sure, white people like hot sauce. Who doesn't love some crystals? Hey, but you know what I'm saying? Like how? Why do that? Because they have no other way. What is he going to do? Well, hey, guys, don't you want to pay more taxes? Yeah. No, no. So he's going to he's going to do this. It's so lame. It's the folks over at Super Beats. And you guys are very familiar with the Super Beats folks. You're familiar with human. What makes their story different is where it began. Human was founded at the UT Health Science Center. And it was built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. Unlike other supplement brands, human science born, not just science-ish. Their products work and you can feel them working. UT athletes have used Super Beats for over a decade, calling it their cheat code for recovery and endurance. And you can use it for the same reasons to support healthy blood pressure and circulation. Today, more than 160 collagen proteins use human products. So your favorite team probably does too. And if you've seen the human logo on the Longhorns field this football season, that's more than a sponsorship. It's a signal from human and UT together leading the future of cardiovascular health for athletes and everyone. Clinically studied key ingredients recommended by doctors, pharmacists, and cardiologists. Pick up Super Beats at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the road to better health with human.
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SPEAKER 17 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you. And now, all of the news you would probably miss.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right. So first up, what we have is the Nimitz aircraft carrier. Oh, boy. The Navy lost two aircraft from the USS Nimitz within 30 minutes. Yeah. A fighter jet and a helicopter based off the aircraft both crashed into the South Sea within 30 minutes of each other per Navy specific fleet. The three crew members of the MH-60R Seahawk helicopter were rescued yesterday afternoon. And the two aviators in the Super Hornet, they ejected and were recovered safely. Everybody's, all five, they said were safe and in stable condition. The causes of the two crashes are under investigation. They said they ruled out foul play and they said there wasn't anything to hide, at least per the president. He was on Air Force One en route to Tokyo yesterday. And so the USS Nimitz is returning to its home port and naval base Kitsap in Washington state. You remember it was over in the Middle East for pretty much all summer over in the Mediterranean and beyond because you had an ongoing situation with Iran and then Yemen, the Houthi rebels, etc. It was on its final deployment before decommissioning. So, very interesting. How do you lose? I'm not going to make a joke about women drivers. I'm just not keen. No matter how much you want me to, I'm not. British parents are taking self-defense classes to protect themselves or their children because apparently they didn't beat them enough growing up. BBC reports that parenting self-defense classes are growing in popularity. I think this is so sad that people would need to do this. They said that the organization Parental Education Growth Support... They're people who provide support for parents facing violence from their kids. They were contacted by like 1,200 families just last year looking for support. That's that's crazy. That is a truly crazy thing. And it's not we're not talking about like somebody got shoved or anything either, like very serious stuff. But that's they've been getting an uptick in more and more every year. They said people reaching out. Also, let's see here. This A.I. slop now A.I. slop is affecting real estate. The piece from MSN buried the lead about five graphs in, but basically what it is is that landlords are using AI to stage photos of the house for sale like on Zillow or wherever. And then the AI is also cleaning up all of the stuff. Whether it's problems with windows or walls or anything. So that when you go to see the house in person, there might be cracks. I mean, it looks like a mess. But the AI version makes it look so nice and neat. You got to be really careful of that. Some of the examples that they've given were pretty egregious, too. Let's see. A student was handcuffed after a Doritos bag was mistaken as a gun by the school's AI security system. So... How can you trust AI to keep out real guns if it's doing this? I'm just saying. So the student actually got detained. He was arrested. Baltimore County officials are calling for a review of how Kenwood High School uses the AI gun detection system and why the teenager was in handcuffs, despite school safety officials quickly determining that there was no weapon. They made him get down on his hands and knees, on his knees, put his hands behind his back, and they cuffed him. And he was arriving. He was waiting with friends for a ride home after football practice, and he was eating a bag of Doritos. And the AI surveillance thought that that was a gun that he had. Can you believe that? That's insane. He said, I literally was just holding a Doritos bag. And they said it looked like a gun. This is crazy. Do you trust AI, especially if they start using it for legal stuff? Do you trust it? I mean, I sure don't. We got a lot happening coming up. 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SPEAKER 17 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
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SPEAKER 13 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. You can listen across the country terrestrially. We are in hundreds of markets all over the nation. Plus, you can watch the simulcast of the radio program, Channel 347, DirecTV, also on XRumble, etc. So I had a conversation a couple of months ago with Brent Bozell, who was the head of Media Research Center, and now he's going to South Africa to serve as... our diplomat down there and he made an interesting point where he said that some of the things that he's noticing on the right are it's this absence of any kind of and i people are going to immediately react to this in a very shallow fashion but it's a a lack of mooring in any kind of intellectual base in terms of right-wing thinkers and people who have been very very loud on the right especially some new folks who have been coming in and he was telling me how uh he had gone he has this process by which he meets some individuals and he tries to get inside their heads. And he was saying he didn't name people except for one. He said some of them have been kind of disappointing. He said, you know, one that I was actually impressed with was Charlie Kirk. And this was before Charlie was assassinated. And he was saying that some of the things that he hears, some of these narratives that have cropped up on the right, are without that intellectual mourning. And that's the thing that that that's how you get results. It's how you affect real lasting change. And that came back full circle when I was reading this piece. It was like kind of basically a two part piece over at Town Hall by Michael Hout. And the first was a warning against the unmooring of the American right. And then the second was calling out the cancer within the right. There is a big fight on the right right now, and it's only going to get bigger and better. The left has their own problems. The left is dealing with an issue that is probably about five to 10 years to the future of what the right will be dealing with. if we do not get re-moored to an actual intellectual base. And that's the problem that we're looking at. And this, you can see bubble over in not just fights about Turning Point USA, where you have conspiracy theorists who didn't even really talk to the people at the center of all of the conspiracies for the last couple of years, who go out there and accuse everybody of Donald Trump to his widow, Erica Kirk, of actually killing Charlie Kirk, or Mossad, or any other thing. There's just a lot of conspiracy Conspiracy theory. And then there's also a lot of excuses of using big government to achieve a quasi Republican goal, like the ends justify the means somehow. So there's a lot that wraps up into this, but it really is. Kind of a battle, not kind of a battle for the soul of the right. Joining me on this from Town Hall, Michael Hout, who has these are his pieces. There are really great reads as well. He's a columnist for Town Hall and editor of Liberty Affair. And he joins us now. Michael, it's good to have you. And I appreciate you being very candid, although I'm sure that your feedback was quite interesting. This has been a very revealing year. I think everything has been expedited this past year. what do you see as the main the main i guess central focus of of uh battle here within the right as you discussed it well first of all thank you so much for having me on dana um
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, as I tried to articulate in my columns, there seems to be a problem where we have hangers-on cleaning to the MAGA label or to the conservative label but aren't actually expressing any conservative beliefs whatsoever. People who describe themselves as MAGA communists, like Jackson Hinkle, People who seem to incessantly speak on inane conspiracy theories like Candace Owens and identitarians who are obsessed with race and similar things such as Nick Fuentes. And so I think, you know, most of the time when the left accuses us of being Nazis or fascists, it's absolutely preposterous. You know, they're accusing ordinary Americans who just happen to support President Trump. But that doesn't mean there's nothing we need to be vigilant against on the right. There are some really dangerous voices that are on the rise.
SPEAKER 13 :
Do you think it's fair to say that because the left is they're dealing with their radicals and the radicals not control the Democrat Party? I mean, case in point, you have, you know, Zoran Mamdani, who's. I mean, an admitted socialist who refuses to condemn Hamas sayings, who's going to win the mayoral bid in Manhattan, which is something that's unheard of 10 years ago. Do you feel like the left is dealing with what the right is going to be dealing with in 10 years if we don't get a hold on it?
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, I mean, one of the biggest criticisms I received about my piece is that I'm an outspoken former Democrat. I became a conservative close to nine years ago when I left the Democratic Party. I was, in fact, the national chartering director for college Democrats. And so A lot of people have accused me of being not a real conservative or being a rhino, and it's sort of this ridiculous moving of the goalpost that, you know, if you're not the furthest to the right, you're a rhino. We're going to keep redefining what that means. But to me, the rhinos are the people professing communism on behalf of MAGA or the people who only want to talk about crazy conspiracy theories accusing our president, or who only want to talk about race. And so, yeah, I think we need to absolutely be vigilant because I left the Democratic Party after noticing the extreme elements take over.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And this was mentioned. It's interesting because you're talking about conservatism, too. And I've noticed this big thing crop up wherein conservatives are being blamed as do nothing. And it's failed. Conservatism has failed. Therefore, conservatism must be discarded. My pushback has always been there aren't enough conservatives to actually implement anything. I mean, it's one of the reasons why I personally do not identify as a Republican. I'm a conservative, but they're too far left for me fiscally and on certain domestic policies as well. The it seems like it's an establishment trick. We saw this during the Tea Party era where the establishment and I was part of that whole wave. fighting against the establishment because we wanted grassroots principles. We wanted lower taxes. We wanted to be left alone by our government, et cetera, et cetera. But now we're hearing, well, conservatism failed. But can it fail if it's never there's never been enough conservatives to ever implement anything? When's the last time a truly conservative piece of legislation was introduced by the Republican Party?
SPEAKER 24 :
I'm not sure, but I think, you know, we just really need to be careful about the direction we had in the coming years, not only, you know, in terms of legislation, like morally and certainly electorally. And, you know, what people don't realize is, you know, until the last election, we won all seven swing states. That wasn't because of Gripers. That wasn't because of, you know, the furthest right people. That was because 30% percent of Americans are now identifying as independently registered. And I think we need to make sure that we remain a truly conservative movement. We become more conservative in some senses, but that we also make sure not to lose grasp of the sane side of the independence, because that's how we continue to win elections and implement conservative agendas.
SPEAKER 13 :
You talked also about the founders and Madison and allowing, you know, who gets to basically steer the movement. And I understand building coalitions, and I think it's important to do so. But one of the things that, and you touched on this in both of your pieces, that seems to be evident is that there are certain ideological tendencies that are not being checked at the entry to the coalition. And people are bringing that into the movement and applying it writ large to everything. And as a result, You know, now we're seeing things like, you know, the proposals to pay women to have children, which is essentially what it's not essentially it's welfare and some other big government proposals. Tell me a little bit about your thoughts on this, because coalitions are good, but also they have to be moored in something.
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, that's precisely right. You can't have a coalition with a group that identifies with MAGA but calls itself communist and has associations with something called the American Communist Party. Now, with regard to paying women to have children, I'm a bad person to ask because the government, I live in Poland for the past five years, They implemented this, and they recently implemented no taxes for people with two kids, so I'm lucky in that regard, although I still have to pay my U.S. taxes. But you're absolutely right. Conservatism has to be more than something. If you don't like John McCain or Mitt Romney, my former governor, fine. We can have a wide range of ideas within our party, but they need to be more than something fundamental. Certainly not You know, communism, certainly not far far right identitarianism. And we should welcome the big tent, but not want to become a circus tent.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. And big tents are great. But I like what you just said about circus tents as well. And this is one of the things you mentioned, identity politics. And this is the big thing that's been popping up with a lot of this, this new movement within the right, within the GOP, I guess, you know, for the lack of a better way to put it. Making idols of race or ethnicity. Now, that's something we've always seen the left do, like the very far left with critical race theory and Derrick Bell on college campuses back in the 60s and 70s and going into the 80s. We all saw this. Now we're watching it being replicated in smaller batches by certain members of the new coalition that are on the right. And we see it, you know, fester, whether people are discussing Israel or whatever. But this is really dangerous. And it gets into exactly what you're talking about, Michael, with with Marxism, because that's a Marxist principle to practice that.
SPEAKER 24 :
Right, and I mean, it goes well beyond anti-Zionism. I mean, included in that big tent, if you want to make criticism of Israel, I'm more supportive of Israel generally, but if you want to make criticisms of Israel, I'm not saying you can't. But when that descends into virulent anti-Semitism, praise of Adolf Hitler, Holocaust denialism, masked in humor or analogies. I'm sitting here in my home in Warsaw, Poland, a city that was 95% destroyed by the Nazis. I have no patience for it, whether it's coming from the left or the right. and i think you know there was this horrific dovetailing of uh charlie kirk's assassination and the uh final stages of the war in gaza that really led to a lot of this being uh exacerbated and brought to the forefront and i think the void that charlie left behind which is quite a big void um you know i i never met him but i was a fan of his and his work um we need to be extra vigilant that that void is not filled by those voices that are antisemitic, identitarian, conspiratorial, or certainly communist.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's one of the things I think, and for those joining us, we're talking to Michael Hout, who has his piece over at Town Hall, The Unmooring of the American Right. And that's one of the things I think that Charlie was very good at, because he always brought it back to classical thinking, like Tocqueville to Burke to Locke, always brought it back to classical thinking, which seems to be absent, like especially in his absence now. So my final question to you is, how is this corrected? What does it take to correct this alignment here on the right?
SPEAKER 24 :
So I've never been an advocate of cancellation. Nick Fuentes responded to me on Twitter on X the other day, and he said I should lighten up. And, you know, this is kind of his typical thing, like, I'm just joking, lighten up, followed by something horrific, he says. And I think, you know, the answer is not cancellation. The answer is to recognize
SPEAKER 13 :
Which is different from discernment. I don't mean to interrupt you, but it's very different from discernment.
SPEAKER 24 :
Right. Yeah. So I'm not advocating anyone's cancellation, but we need to recognize that this is noise and not signal. And we need to make sure that these dangerous voices never become the public face of our party like they have on the left with Mamdani and Omar and so forth, the ones that drove me out of the Democratic Party. And I'm very happy to be a conservative now. I I am a conservative, right, believer in capitalism. But I also believe that conservatism is not something for white people. It's not something for men. It's something that works for everyone. And, you know, I think Charlie Kirk understood that. And I think we need to be good stewards of his legacy and not open the movement up to people on the extremes who want to warp MAGA into something much more extreme.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think that's a very good point, especially as we're already gearing up for 28, which starts earlier and earlier, apparently, every cycle. Michael Hout, you can find him over at Town Hall as well as on X. I really appreciate you being very candid in your pieces about that. I know it probably didn't win you a lot of accolades, but let us count for one because I think it's a very good read and very insightful and very honest, which we need more of. So thank you so much for your time today, too. Thank you, Dana. Of course. Take care. We have more to come, folks, as we wrap up this second hour. And of course, we'll be rolling into our third with updates about POTUS's travel overseas. A big visit forthcoming as we move because we are also capitalists and we bring you free programming. All Family Pharmacy is a family owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications that you need when you need them the most. With over 200 essential medications, including antibiotics, antivirals, ivermectin, emergency kits, and so much more, they have you covered for everything from daily prescriptions to even biohacking support. Right now, they've lowered prices on ivermectin and minbendazole by up to 25%, starting at just $2 a capsule. Plus, save an extra 10% using code VITAL. Dana 10. Each order includes a doctor's prescription, so there's no hassle or middleman. And as flu season approaches, now's the time to stock your medicine cabinet with essentials like Tamiflu, antibiotics, and vitamins to help keep you and your family healthy. And beyond basics, All Family Pharmacy offers biohacking products like NAD+, Methylene Blue, all kinds of stuff to boost energy, focus, immunity, the whole nine yards. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 to save 10% today. Don't wait. Be ready for flu season with All Family Pharmacy. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10.
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SPEAKER 17 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
SPEAKER 17 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you. It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right, so a Florida man threw a rock through an ICE agent's car window as his father was being arrested. Guess who also got arrested? Like father, like son. Look, they did a daddy-son outing. Oh, it's so great. 19-year-old Pasquale Martin is the son of the man federal agents were arresting at the time. He's charged with one count of throwing a deadly missile into an occupied vehicle, which is a second-degree felony. So he shattered, apparently, the agent's car. It was a rock large enough to do it, apparently. It busted out the whole thing. So he's the son of the neighbor of the guy that the guys that the Asians were arresting. Velasquez Martin took off after, but he was arrested nearby. So he wasn't able to run away. Don't don't play stupid games because you will absolutely win stupid prizes. A Florida skeleton strip show is rattling neighbors and sparking debate over Halloween decor, according to CBS 12. So in one Florida neighborhood, the front porch, it's a skeletal strip show. That features cigar smoking, a beer drinking, a skeleton on a pole. And some of the neighbors are upset. And I'm like, is this just is this footloose part two? Because it's literally a skeleton just sitting on a pole. And what is Cain? This is not bad.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, actually, it's just hilarious to see. See, this is the thing about decorations. For Christmas, there's a ceiling on how creative you can be for Christmas. With Halloween, there's no ceiling.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I love that because you can just do anything and it offends someone. It'll always offend someone.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, completely. They said that. Someone said, I don't see stripping as an art. I don't want my kids exposed to that. You don't even know. The skeleton doesn't have... ding or a dong you can't tell what's what it's a skeleton that you get at costco there's nothing oh my god don't let your kids watch the halftime show yeah right yeah don't have that i mean if you're worried about a skeleton on a pole on somebody's porch where it's clearly doesn't show anything i mean victoria's secrets window fronts show way more than this guy's porch does then i don't know i just feel like it's it seems like it's Footloose part two. It's a gentleman's club.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's where people go to learn to be gentlemen.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, I would go that far, but yeah. A Florida man exposed himself to a child in the park and then urinated at the police station. Oh my gosh. He's lucky he's alive because some kids' parents don't mess around with that kind of stuff. Just saying. This guy. I'm not going to log in to continue reading this story. There's the headline. We have a lot more on the way. Third hour. Next. Stick with us. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program. It's the folks over at Relief Factor. If you want relief from everyday aches and pains, you need to check out Relief Factor. This is 100% drug-free. It's a way to target inflammation that can keep you from doing the exercise that you need and enjoying the things that you love freely and with maximum mobility. It's a, as I said, 100% drug-free, research-based formula, all created to support healthy response to inflammation, detoxification, decrease discomfort from exercise, everyday living, and it really helps to maintain healthy joints and muscles, so it promotes better movement and less pain over time. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's only 95 cents a day. It's less than a cup of coffee. Don't wait. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF to get your three-week quick start today for just $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you.
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SPEAKER 17 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 10 :
We'll make our city one where every person who calls it home can live a dignified life. No New Yorker should ever be priced out of anything they need to survive. And we believe then, we believe today, we will believe tomorrow that it is government's job to deliver that dignity.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh my gosh, he actually said the words.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dignity, my friends, is another way of saying freedom.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow, what a Marxist. That is one of the most Marxist things I've ever heard in my life. That's Zoran Mandani, who thinks that the government's job is to make you feel dignified about your choices in life. It's the government's job to hand you dignity. It's the government's job to do these things for you. No, it's not. It's not the government's job to do any of these things. at all whatsoever. That's pretty horrific. He's gonna win. You know, he was out there campaigning. Who was it? Hasan Piker was at his rally over the weekend. The guy who electrocutes his dog. New Yorkers are not bothered by any of this. New Yorkers who are pulling for him, they want this. He's going to win mayor in New York. He's going to become the mayor of New York City. The Nepo baby who's never had a job. Ever. He's never worked a job. Well, he tried to be a rapper, Cain. Let's not forget. He's never had a job. He has no interest in working. And he thinks that the government's job is to provide dignity, to assure your dignity. This is the problem. Welcome back to the program. We're at the top of this third hour. That's the problem. How interesting. But it's not. You know, this, I don't know where he thinks that that's somehow a guarantee that the government's supposed to underwrite. It isn't. And him saying, normally when you have these audio soundbites like this, it's like, oh, well, you know. Government's job to deliver dignity. Usually it's not that these soundbites aren't that sometimes some of the things that you read online are kind of exaggerated. This is not. This is not. Wow. Nobody should ever be priced out. Well, okay. Well, then what are you doing as a lawmaker or activist in your community to stop prices from increasing? I mean, you guys vote for the stuff. They vote for all of the things that drive up all the prices across the board. They vote for high taxation in New York. I mean, New York City has some of the highest tax rates. It's punitive. It's like California, punitive. You have the freedom to to pursue happiness, but it is not guaranteed to you by your government. This is something, you know, we talked about this last segment, well, not last segment, but last hour with our guest, Michael Hout, because that's such a big, for whatever reason, there is this push on the right. And I recognize it. It's like a resuscitated narrative from 2008. I remember when we got started with the Tea Party in grassroots, we were out there pushing for limited government. And I'm going to tell you, not a lot of people really want limited government. I've said this before over the years that when it push comes to shove, you really realize how many people truly are constitutionalists and how many are not in the strictest sense of the word and its application to policy and its application to daily life. And back in 2008, the establishment went on the attack against grassroots. The establishment, like Bush League establishment, they wanted, you know, you had no child left behind, you had the government involved in a lot of different things, you had too big to fail, et cetera, et cetera. There were a lot of things that the government was doing that they shouldn't be involved in, and they were doing them anyway. And the establishment was defending it as being for the good of the republic. And we pushed back against that pretty hard. Well, it's happening again. One of the things that I've seen play out over the weekend, particularly on social media, where you have all of these bot accounts, I unveiled a handful of bot accounts that were in my mentions because they they ended up slipping and giving themselves away. They always do because they're intellectually inconsistent and their range of knowledge about the United States and our policies is very limited. Most of the online engagement, particularly on X anymore, is just somebody's it's a phone in Iraq somewhere in India. Let's be real. It is. And so the big narrative that I see being pushed right now is that conservatism has failed. That's the narrative that's being pushed. Conservatism. has failed. Conservatism, which has never actually been done. Now, one of the things that these people like to do is they like to say, well, isn't that what communists say, that communism has never been? No, no, no. They've actually implemented communism and it's failed horrifically everywhere it's ever been implemented. Nobody says that. Nobody says that it's never been implemented. It has been. The problem with applying that stupidly to communism Conservatism is that there aren't a lot of conservatives. There really aren't. There aren't a lot of conservatives. There are a lot of people who say they're conservatives, but they're not. Now you see why I don't like to identify as strictly a Republican. Because they're too far to the left for me. There are a lot of people who think that Republicans and conservatives are the same things and they're not. There are a lot of people who some of these people saying that conservatism has failed. Well, there aren't enough people to even implement it. If you think it's failed, please give me the one truly just one. I just want one one truly conservative piece of legislation that's been that has been proposed in past. Go ahead. No one can think of one. Because there isn't any. There have never been enough conservatives in the House. In fact, the closest we got was the House Freedom Caucus in the wake of the Tea Party. There aren't even enough conservatives in the House. There's not even, there's no, there aren't enough conservatives at all in the Senate. In fact, I think the people who are truly conservative, and by conservative, I mean limiting government power to conserve individual liberty, on maybe a handful, if that. Maybe a handful. But this is the neat new narrative from the establishment. They see limited government constitutionalism as the weed in their garden. That's how they view it. And they accuse conservatives of doing nothing while they themselves have been too terrified to introduce a single piece of actual conservative legislation ever. Ever. Because the establishment entirely lacks the spine to do what's required, they blame the very few in number conservatives whom they have blocked and pilloried for decades. That's the truth of it. There are very few conservative-leaning lawmakers in office because conservatism is hard. It requires consistency. It requires an abhorrence of big government that, frankly, too many Republicans have no issue with if they think that the means justify the ends. Case in point. I'll go back to the pain that women to have babies think. That's welfare. That's a proposal that where it has been implemented has not succeeded in raising the birth rate. I've looked at the numbers. Hungary is often touted as the example. Hungary's numbers actually dipped right back below what they were. So, in fact, it had a net negative impact. It didn't change a thing in Hungary. Now, I think that some of these people, their hearts are in the right places, but they're not looking at this and following it to the full conclusion. It's not the government's job. In fact, it's the government's fault that it's like that. This is where the schism is. See, people who are limited government, they view the government's involvement in everyday aspect of life as the reason why we are in the position that we are in. It is their fault. You don't go back to the entity that created the disaster and then ask for it to get you out of it. That is not how this works. You don't go to a government that has made it to where you can't even have a single income family anymore that can afford a house. You don't go to a government that has raised the cost of living with bad, bad monetary policy to the extent to which it has and ask for them to help you financially further. That's not how any of this works. You're only going to get more government when you ask for government to get involved. Guess what? You get more government. That is absolutely antithetical to conservatism. But there are a lot of Republicans who think that the means justifies the ends, even though they cannot point to a single track record of success for that policy as the example. It hasn't stopped them from continuing to promote it. Well, if you love families, then you'll do this. If you love family, then you're going to pay people to have babies so that we have more families. I mean, to hell with actually reducing taxes and having a balanced budget and cutting regulation to make it easier for energy and everything else. No, no, no, no, no. We're not going to go to the problem. We're just going to use this as a drug to help you to help make you easier in the problem. That's going to actually create more of a problem later on. It's asinine. But it's hard to be conservative because consistency is not popular. This industry is very transactional. Very transactional. When push comes to shove, a lot of people want to be made easy. They want a guarantee to happiness. They don't want just the opportunity to pursue it of their own volition. They want a guarantee of it. A lot of people think that's what freedom means. They think freedom means the government's going to underwrite your happiness. And that's not how it works. That's the schism right now on the right. So I see some of these people go to war on social media in a way that they never would in real life. I see people who go off on conservatives and and and constitutionalists in a way that they have never done against the establishment. I watch people who pretend that they put in a hard day's work on X by living online exclusively for like six hours at a time. But they do nothing when it comes to canvassing in their own neighborhoods. They do nothing when it comes to phone banking in their own They do nothing when it comes to donations for ad buys or whatever else is needed in their own neighborhoods. They can't even be prevailed upon to get out and vote in their off season local and municipal elections. Half of these people can't even tell you who's running for their school board races. If it sounds like an indictment, it is. Things are too important to be namby-pamby about it and to backpat and treat everybody as children over it. Conservatism is hard because it requires a lot for nothing. And people don't want to do that. There are a lot of good lawmakers out there who don't want to do it. They would rather make the deal. They would rather cut the drama. They would rather do it the easy way as opposed to the hard way. And then all of these people... At the end of it, have the audacity to point the finger at the conscience of the party. The inner voice of the party that has kept the party from going freewheeling into leftism. That conscience of the party that has kept it from teetering into the abyss of statism. They have the audacity to say that it has failed. when not only has it never been tried, there aren't enough people with spines to make it happen. Don't let the establishment rewrite history. Don't let them gaslight you into accepting more big government, because that is the absolute goal with this narrative. We have more on the way as we roll into the bottom of this hour and headlines. So our skin changes in subtle ways over the years, especially after having kids. Maybe your hair and your nails and your skin don't seem as strong as you'd like for them to be. 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SPEAKER 17 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you. And now, all of the news you would probably miss.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So this is weird. And I, it's a study that says a nightlight in your bedroom could actually increase your heart attack risk. Now there's a difference. Then they get into sleeping with the lights on. Okay. There's a difference between the nightlight and sleeping with the lights on. So they said the way that they have it phrased is sleeping with the lights on is linked to a 42% higher risk of heart attack compared to sleeping in darkness. Okay. But what if you have like weird little corners in your house and you have a little tiny little nightlight that's on the floor, that's in a plug. and it comes on when you walk past it so you don't die to death because you stub your toe on the door that closes automatically when the AC comes on by itself. You're not going to have a heart attack then. I would more have a heart attack by stubbing my toe in the middle of the night, which I have done, by the way. So that's why, King. I feel like this study is nonsense. Your thoughts, dear sir?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think that they haven't expanded that study properly. That's all.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. They haven't. I mean, there's a big difference. I mean, I have blackout curtains in my room. You know, I keep it, like, tomb cold. And it's totally, you know, we keep it dark. But I have to be able to see when, if I'm getting up to get a drink or something in the middle of the night. You know what I mean? Like, come on. There's a big difference here. Also, let's see this. Oh, here we go. In Michigan, a man is accused of threatening a driver with a chainsaw in a road rage attack. It's in Paw Paw, Michigan. What if you're a pawpaw from Pawpaw, Michigan? What? Anyway. A Southwest Michigan man is facing felony charges. He threatened a driver who cut him off with a chainsaw. What? He was driving a truck in a trailer. He passed the woman, cut her off, ran her off the road. Van Buren Sheriff said that The two were arguing, and then he grabbed a chainsaw from his truck. He was not successful in starting the equipment. That's my favorite little notation that's in the affidavit. But then he did stomp on her cell phone and then punched her in the stomach, grabbed her throat. Yeah, this guy's not going to have a good time. So he went to the pokey. Also, let's see. There's a lot of road rage incidents. I have three road rage headlines just today alone. Can people chill out when they're driving? Please. Please, for the love of all things holy, just everybody get to where they need to go safely. Don't be a doucher if you're driving and don't be a doucher to somebody else if they accidentally seem like they're being a doucher because they may not be. Like we had a guy who had a health incident and ran into the Duff's Wings place here in our town. So, you know, maybe it is a health emergency. Stick with us.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts. Awesome.
SPEAKER 17 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
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SPEAKER 08 :
60s world. You got the Supreme Court talking about getting rid of the Voting Rights Act. And that's very real. That may likely happen in just a matter of months. I mean, they're rewriting history, censoring historical facts. It's a unbelievable moment. All this anti-woke stuff is just anti-black. Oh, my gosh. You know what?
SPEAKER 13 :
That's actually racist because Gavin Newsom is thinking that all wokery is all race. So it's actually inherently racist. He's trying so hard to engender himself to these hosts of this NBA podcast. Imagine debasing yourself to the point where you're just He's like contorting himself verbally into a pretzel. It's weird to watch. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this third hour. No, it's not. In fact, to say that it's just anti-black, what is he hitting on? Florida? It seems like he's trying to touch on Florida. Remember, Florida passed standards for their education where they rejected the New York Times writer who had basically made up a whole bunch of stuff about black history in America. And a lot of it had no academic bearing whatsoever. And the Florida, their board of education, which was were white and black educators, were like, that's actually not even academically honest. So we can't. Why? We wouldn't allow it on the right. Why would we allow it on the left? It was just propagandizing at that point. That's not education. So that made sense. And you can disagree with it. But to say that it's due to racism or that they were specifically trying to deny the teaching, which is actually mandated under Florida state law, that they were trying to somehow stop the teaching of or history of black America or slavery or anything else is just a demonstrable lie. And the people who want to deny that, I mean, shame on them. Just it's and it's more than just race, the wokery aspect of it. I'm trying to understand the slam Frank thing. I actually saw this over the weekend and Steve's got the video to this. Are we going to get hit on YouTube if we play this, by the way? I hope not. So if you don't know what Slam Frank is, first off, it's a musical. And I don't like, I'm immediately predisposed to dislike it no matter where it comes from because it's a musical. I'm just not into musicals. I just don't have that suspension of disbelief to think that everybody, except maybe with the exception of the original West Side Story and The Sound of Music, I just, I have a hard time with it. This is supposed to be a musical satire in which Anne Frank is rewritten as the Netflix wunderkind, a Latinx pansexual girl named Anita. Here's a glimpse of Slam Frank as Kane dies.
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Literary ambitions will be clocking top profits in non-fiction. I'll revise to precision. Organize every thought and dot all these I's till I finish. After I've read it, I'll edit and edit until it's better. This story needs to revision and baby, I'm my own editor. I'm finna rewrite my diary until the publishers are hiring me. And I'ma let out this fire in me.
SPEAKER 13 :
This sounds horrible. So it's called Slam Frank. And I don't even know the way that it's there's a lot of controversy about it. It centers on the rewritten Anne Frank called Anita through the lens of intersectional, multi-ethnic, genderqueer, Afro-Latin hip hop. Slam Frank. What do you think of Slam Frank? Would you go see it? I immediately hate it.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's just pitchy. I've already seen too much.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, and people are like, it's satire. Okay, then what is it satirizing? If it's satire, what is it? Where is the satire? What is the satirical aspect? What is the thing that it's... Is it satirizing rap? That's the thing. No one can answer that question. What is it satirizing then? Anybody?
SPEAKER 12 :
Got nothing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Here's Daily Mail's headline. Holocaust victim Anne Frank reimagined as pansexual Latina with non-binary lover and neurodiverse family. What is this even? And she's got one leg. And she's gluten intolerant. And colorblind. And deaf in one ear. What?
SPEAKER 22 :
She wins.
SPEAKER 13 :
I just want, I should do it. What is it? I mean, it's almost to the point where it's satirizing itself. It's so cringe. Oh, I've seen enough clips. I don't need to go see it in the theaters because there's not enough liquor in the world.
SPEAKER 12 :
This is how bad it is. Somebody first had the idea. Then they wrote it down, convinced others that it was a good idea. Those others agreed to it. Then they executed it as written. And here we are.
SPEAKER 13 :
It bypassed a lot of stops there. in order to get on stage. It began as an Instagram parody, and the guy who created it was joking about making this production to make, quote, Latinx girlies feel included in the Holocaust. Now, I'm like, wait a minute. Is it serious? Because you can't tell anymore. And then they did like a full, it like inspired like a full production built around it. And that's how it, they said it was a fictional theater troupe trying to decolonize Anne Frank's story. And then it went to this absurdity of characters, et cetera. Is it satirizing wokery or is it satirizing non-wokery to the point where it is a joke? Kane, I can't break. Steve, what is your thought?
SPEAKER 12 :
My head is hurting.
SPEAKER 13 :
You wouldn't go see this. No.
SPEAKER 05 :
As we know on the show, I'm not a hater of musicals like you are, but... I know. I appreciate that about you. Yeah, no problem, but it's just... Anne Frank was a tough person and tough life, and I don't know if we should be making light of that.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know. See, that's what I'm like. I'm like, hasn't... Kylie, hasn't the girl been thrown off? I'm like, come on. I just... I think that this is where people try to get too smart and over their skis and they create something that does not hit the mark. And someone I think what they were trying to do was like a Hamilton, a Hamilton style thing. And they wanted to incorporate characters that were. Like, discovering marginalized identities, which is a phrase I don't believe in. Because I think in this day and age, you can marginalize yourself. But I don't think that people have the power anymore to marginalize you. Unless you're talking about critical race theory marginalizing. It's non-adherence. It's the only thing I can think of. But they... sold out 34 performances and either people think it's daring satire or just deeply offensive. Like Reddit is full of they hate it or they hate the people who hate it. That's it. There's no in between. There's no in between here.
SPEAKER 12 :
How big were these rooms they were selling out? Do we know?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, we don't know. Like the Book of Mormon, they were saying was... When I think of satire, I think of Spaceballs. I think of Mel Brooks, who was the genius. I think of Christopher Guest and like Best in Show, right? That movie is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Spinal Tap. That's what I think of when I think of satire. I don't think of rewriting Anne Frank as like a genderqueer, whatever, Latinx, doesn't know what she is type of thing. How does that, that doesn't make it modern. What the hell does that even mean? Someone said they're trying to modernize. How do you modernize Anne Frank? That's so stupid. Shut up. She's a historical figure. She was a real person and you are de-othering her or othering her by stripping her of her identity. That's actually the irony in this whole thing. I mean, were they trying to do unintentional irony? That's a lot. That's a long journey to get to that end with this. Of course, this is, it's like they Netflixed her. Like how, you know, Netflix changes and ruins everything. Oh my gosh. Like they're, I think they're doing another Pride and Prejudice. Can you stop it? We don't need another damn Pride and Prejudice. We don't need another damn Jane Austen story. Stop. We don't need any of it. It's all annoying. Othering her, though. That's what this is. So I just I let's not and say we did. Let's just and they called it Slam Frank. That was cringy. That clip that we played. That's why I hate musicals. I can't sit there in a theater and hear that kind of performance and go, wow, that's really good. I can't. I can't. It's just the cheesy over-the-top delivery. I'm sorry, theater kids. It's just not my jam. Sorry. Just not. Just not. So I don't know. They said it sparked controversy. I think the guy did it. Maybe it might be a leftist. Otherwise, they would have burnt the theater down already. Just saying they would have. Can we talk about aliens real quick? Hold up, hold up, hold up. Okay, so I got a whole... Here we go. So two things. First off, there's a story out that discusses alien activity near U.S. nuclear sites. It's well, they're saying it's non-human intelligence. There's evidence of it. And it's gaining scientific validation. That's a big headline. What does that mean? Like it's been confirmed gaining scientific validation. What does that mean? Thousands of objects, they say, sent by non-human intelligence may have been spying on the world's nuclear tests all the way back to the 1940s. It's a groundbreaking new study. Just published, providing verified evidence that something or someone was observing our nuclear sites from space long before our first human satellites were ever launched into orbit, Kane. It is a Nordic, some Swedish scientist in Norway. It's a Nordic Institute for Theoretical Physics. And they say there's a clear connection between the tests from 49 and 57 and the increase in the number of transients appearing in the sky. Now, keep that on the table because I have another one. Hold up. Let me pull this other one up. So now, this is a New York Post. UFO tracker shows thousands of eerie underwater objects lurking. Along U.S. coasts, Kane. And there's video and it's creepy. It is the largest queryable historic... What's it? It's queer? No, it's the largest queryable historical sighting database for global UFO sightings. It's called Enigma. They said they got reports on over 30,000 unidentified flying objects and... anomalous phenomena since they launched in 2022. And it's not just the skies.
SPEAKER 19 :
They said that there's strange objects, Kane, rising from the depths of the sea or plunging into the depths without so much as a splash.
SPEAKER 12 :
Could it be aliens? I think it could be.
SPEAKER 13 :
Now, there's more. Yes, you know that Manhattan-sized space object called 3I Atlas? It's grown a tail, according to Harvard scientists. They're from Harvard, so it's posse legit, right? New images reveal the Manhattan-sized interstellar object known as 3I Atlas has begun to sport a tail, indicating that it could be possibly a maneuvering alien craft. They said after exhibiting signs of an incredibly strange anti-tail since first cropping up in the solar system last July, now 3i Atlas is showing evidence of a true cometary tail, according to Spain's Nordic Optical Telescope in the Canary Island. This finding was released in September. Interesting. Do you think it's an alien spaceship? Looks like a giant turdsicle.
SPEAKER 12 :
Some of its attributes don't appear just randomly natural, right? So, yeah, I'm willing to believe it. But I also think it's something they want us to believe, too.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think it's pretty cool if aliens are like, let's disguise our ship as a giant space rock. No one will know. Because most everyone's like, oh, it's just a space rock. I'm just saying if I were an alien, that's what I would do. Then they'd be like, oh, it's a comet. Oh, that's what it is. It's probably a rock from some astro. Ooh, wait a minute. Hold up. Do I have enough time? Do I have enough time? Do I have enough time? Because, you know, we got a potential smod, potential smod alert. I'll try to find it over break. I was going to put it in this segment, but I think I moved it. But it's a potential smod. Just saying. So be wary of the water because there's more than just sharks living in there. The turd sickle in space could be an alien spacecraft. And also, aliens have been watching our nuke sites since the 40s. There you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end, that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. And our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
So two quick things. First off, here's the headline I told you about SMOD. Scientists spotted a skyscraper-sized asteroid racing through the solar system.
SPEAKER 12 :
You look excited.
SPEAKER 13 :
very excited it was discovered by carnegie science astronomer scott shepherd so they're just saying it's skyscraper sized it's known as 2025 sc79 so it circles the sun once every 128 days i don't know if it's gonna like get next to us like to hit us but it's out there maybe we'll get lucky i don't know
SPEAKER 12 :
So you're saying there's a chance.
SPEAKER 13 :
There's a chance. So that's number one. The second thing is that Javier Malai scored a major win on the election Sunday. So it looks like, remember, we had Carol Roth on last week to talk about the gambit the Trump admin was making to kind of box out China. Well, that worked. We'll have more on that tomorrow. In the meantime, today in Stupidity Game.
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One, cut 33, please.
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But we must remember in a time such as this, we are not the crazy ones, New York City.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sorry to break the news to you.
SPEAKER 21 :
We are not the outlandish ones, New York City.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you are. You are though.
SPEAKER 21 :
They want us to think we are crazy. We are sane.
SPEAKER 12 :
Man, when you have to explain it like that.
SPEAKER 13 :
When you're explaining, you're losing.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's the rule. You guys know that. It's the rule. All right. Moose up front should have told you. Folks, find us at Substack, Chapter and Verse, and YouTube and Facebook. Like and subscribe. I will be back with you tomorrow.
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Israeli hostages are released and the war stops in Gaza, but the people who screamed about ending genocide are suddenly silent. Biden administration figures call the Middle East deal bittersweet because they think they deserve the credit. And the shutdown fight highlights what a complete disaster Obamacare is. just like we said it would be. I'm Greg Karumbas, inviting you to join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the Three Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the top news, some good laughs, and we'll be done in less than 30 minutes. Follow the Three Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

In this episode of Washington Watch, host Jody Heiss delves into pressing issues on the international and domestic fronts. The program starts with a comprehensive analysis of the government shutdown, now in its 27th day, and its tangible effects on millions of Americans, such as missed paychecks and paused welfare benefits. Guest speakers, including Congressman Keith Self, provide insights into the political stalemate and the necessity for bipartisan solutions. Tune in to learn more about the financial implications and the urgent need for resolution. As the episode unfolds, listeners are taken on a journey with President Trump through his pivotal Asia tour. The discussion focuses on potential trade deals and the significant meeting with China's Xi Jinping. This segment unpacks the complexities of global diplomacy and economic strategy essential to U.S. interests. Expert Gordon Chang joins the conversation, offering a deeper understanding of the geopolitical tides shaping these international affairs. Whether it's securing regional peace or bolstering economic alliances, this episode promises detailed analysis and expert opinions on the issues that matter most today.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's almost been a full month since the Democrats shut down the government. And as we near the end of this month, the pain being felt by so many hardworking people around this country is very real. And it gets worse with each passing day.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson warning Americans could face serious hardships if Democrats don't act to reopen the government. Welcome to this October 27th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host Jody Heiss filling in for Tony Perkins today. Thank you so much for tuning in. All right, coming up, President Trump is in Japan after signing trade deals with Malaysia, Cambodia and Thailand. But the big question is whether or not he'll be able to reach a trade deal with China when he meets with President Xi later this week. Asia expert Gordon Chang will join us in a little while to break that down. Also, Congressman Keith Self will give us the latest on the impact of the government shutdown. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says Israel is going to decide which foreign troops can join an international peacekeeping force in Gaza. The U.S. will not be sending soldiers, but is asking countries like Indonesia the UAE, Egypt, Qatar, Turkey, Azerbaijan, and others to contribute. Well, joining me now from the Washington stand is Casey Harper. Casey, what is the latest on Israel's position as it relates to foreign troops joining their mission in Gaza?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, Jody, well, this has been a very contentious issue, as you might imagine. Who's going to get to have troops in Israel's backyard? Well, according to Israeli officials, forces from countries that are hostile to Israel will not be allowed. You might say that's obvious, but it hasn't been obvious up until this point. Now, Azerbaijan and Indonesia, they appear well-positioned to lead the new Gaza force after Israel went ahead and vetoed Turkey's involvement, which is not a major surprise. But coordination on this is still in the early stages, and Indonesia is insisting that this whole operation actually get UN Security Council approval. That could be complicated. Now, Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar, while speaking today in Budapest, he said that Israel firmly rejects any Turkish involvement in the proposed international force.
SPEAKER 01 :
Turkey, led by Erdogan, led hostile approach against Israel, included not only hostile statements, but also diplomatic and economic measures against Israel. it is not reasonable for us to let their armed forces enter to Gaza Strip and we will not agree to that and we said it to our American friends.
SPEAKER 12 :
There's no surprise there, as Turkey's been no friend to Israel in recent years. But this U.S. plan, backed by President Trump, it calls for foreign troops to secure this fragile ceasefire that did end two years of fighting between Israel and Hamas earlier this month. Of course, tensions between Israel and Turkey remain high, as Turkey has sharply condemned Israel's military campaign in Gaza. And you probably remember, Jody, that the Turkish president actually blocked Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu from coming to that international peace summit where the deal was signed.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, I do remember that. Casey, what about the president's trip now to Asia? There's a lot of attention on that. What's the latest that you have in that measure?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that's right, Jody. All eyes are on the president as he's in Asia. And he says he's confident the U.S. will reach a strong deal with China. He says, hey, both sides want to make a deal and we're going to get it done ahead of his meeting with Xi Jinping later this week.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think we're going to have a deal with China. We meet, as you know, in South Korea with President Xi. I think we're going to have a good deal with China. And they want to make a deal, and we want to make a deal.
SPEAKER 12 :
We'll see if it happens. U.S. and Chinese officials have already agreed on a framework for talks, which take on issues like tariffs, rare earth minerals, fentanyl, and TikTok. But the truce in the trade war is set to expire November 10th, which means that new tariffs could kick in if progress stalls on that deal. Meanwhile, at a summit in Malaysia, Trump also signed several trade and mineral deals with Southeast Asian nations, and he got behind Malaysia's mediation of that Thailand-Cambodia peace accord. The president's calling it a golden age for America and the Pacific, Jody.
SPEAKER 11 :
Casey, there's so much happening in this Asia trip right now, so much at stake. But one of the things that we've been following here is how China recently has been going after religious leaders, churches, raiding churches and pastors' homes, some 30 or so pastors here recently. And of course, here at Family Research Council, we're praying for all our persecuted brothers and sisters in the faith in China and around the world. But do you think President Trump is going to be addressing this with President Xi?
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, it's one of those things that could come up. I think President Trump has shown himself to be someone who's focused on the economics first and on peace first, and to put some of those other values second to that. He's been willing to work with countries like Turkey and Qatar, which might have questionable things going on. He hasn't blinked an eye at some of Russia's issues as well. He wants to make a deal with everyone. And so I wouldn't be surprised if it came up, but it doesn't appear right now that that is front and center of the president's trip, Jody.
SPEAKER 11 :
What about back home here? The government shutdown continues to be prime news all over the place, and we're hearing some reports that everyday Americans could soon be facing some more hardships. We played a clip of House Speaker Johnson just a little earlier on that. What's the latest on all this political deadlock?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that's right, Jody. We're on day 27 of this seemingly never-ending government shutdown, and the Senate Democrats, led, of course, by Chuck Schumer, are continuing to block that Republican measure that would simply reopen the government. House Speaker Mike Johnson, he's taking them to task for that. He says Democrats are holding the government hostage and causing real harm for working Americans.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because just like they decided to save their own skin, that they had to endorse the Marxist mandami in an unprecedented move, They have also decided they had to shut down the government in an unprecedented move. No matter the pain it inflicts upon hardworking American people, they were simply more afraid of the Marxists in their party than they are of voters. For the sake of our country, we pray that their calculation is wrong.
SPEAKER 12 :
We believe it is dead wrong. The pain is only going to get worse, Jody. USDA is warning that food benefits for 41 million people will stop on November 1st if the shutdown continues. And in states like New Mexico, that could be as many as one in five residents who lose benefits. So Republicans are sticking by their message. They say, hey, the solution is clear. Pass our bill. End the shutdown. Put Americans first, Jody.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, Casey, thank you so much for these updates. I know we'll be talking to you a little bit later in the program, but thank you for joining us. All right, I want to continue the discussion on the government shutdown and get a congressional perspective in all of this. Joining me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Keith Self. He serves on several committees, including the Foreign Affairs Committee, and he faithfully served our country for over 25 years in the Army, retiring with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. He represents the 3rd Congressional District of Texas. Congressman Self, always great to see you, my friend. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to be here with you, Jody.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, this government shutdown, now day 27, and we had the American Federation of Government Employees, which is the nation's largest union of federal workers. They released a statement today basically calling on Congress to reopen the government immediately under a continuing resolution that is clean, exactly what the Republicans have been pushing for. And they noted that doing so does not favor one political side over the other. The Republicans have been saying this all along. What's the latest that you're hearing from your colleagues right now?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think the Democrats are losing their base. When you lose the largest federal union, you've lost part of your base. And frankly, it did favor the Republicans because they want them to pass the clean CR that we have already passed in the House. That clearly is our position. The Democrats need to come on board. They need to stop this pain on the American people. And we need to get everybody back to work.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. I know we talked about this last Friday, too, but the Trump administration has took some steps to try to ensure that the SNAP benefits were paid this month. That's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, as you well know. But that impacts like one out of every eight Americans when it comes to buying groceries. And now the administration is saying that the well is run dry so that there will be no SNAP benefits beginning this Saturday, November 1st. So how can the Democrats continue to claim that they're trying to help Americans by hurting them? I mean, this is bizarre to me. Do you think that some of them, perhaps with the SNAP program going under, that maybe they'll change their minds now?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I have no idea. But frankly, we need five Democrats to do the right thing, to look in their conscience and come over and vote for a clean CR. I have lots of questions about the SNAP program and the 41 million people. That's 12% of our population. Why is 12% of our population on food stamps on Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program? Why is that? Given the obesity and the In the nation, the most purchased item are carbonated beverages. Why is that? I question those numbers, although they're USDA numbers. But we need to be looking for fraud, waste, and abuse in the SNAP program. And look, the best thing about this shutdown is it's focused sunlight and attention on Obamacare, just what a disastrous program it is. Maybe we need the same sunlight on the SNAP program.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, listen, I could not agree with you more. I know I had the same issues when I was serving in Congress. I only brought it up because that's kind of like a pet for the Democrats. They love the SNAP program. And with that well-running drive, I was just curious if you thought that that might be a turning point for them. But absolutely, SNAP needs to be investigated. I can't fathom in my mind either why it has 41 million Americans on it. But if I can— Real quickly, some international issues for you. We've got the missing bodies, the hostages from Gaza that are still lingering out there, and now all the continuing steps for the potential continued ceasefire. But we've got... all the international peacekeeping force in Gaza. And of course, yesterday, Prime Minister Netanyahu said that Israel is going to determine which foreign troops are acceptable in that force. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, absolutely. I mean, Gaza is their backyard. And I think the decision on Turkey was exactly right. I'm actually concerned that Turkey and Israel might have a little conflict of their own because Erdogan is very aggressive toward Israel today. So, yeah, I agree with Netanyahu. They should decide. But look, focus on Hamas, because will Hamas disarm? Will Hamas go into exile? Will Hamas meet the terms of the peace agreement? I doubt it. But focus on Hamas while we're focusing on the troops that might be allowed in at some time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Less than a minute to go. Real quickly, the president is now on his Asian tour. What hopes do you have for that trip?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I have high hopes. Look, this is a tour de force of Donald Trump. He's done exactly what he should have done before the meeting with Xi Jinping. He's gone to the allies. He's had a peace agreement. He's had several trade agreements. He is showing Xi Jinping that he is very relevant in this part of the world. This is a tour de force. So all of that should play a part when he actually meets with Xi Jinping in South Korea. So I have high hopes because Xi Jinping is very, he's almost like Donald Trump. He has to be, at this time, very transactional.
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Let's hope they can transact business. We certainly hope so. Thank you so much, Congressman Keith Self of Texas. Always great to have you on the program. Thank you, Jody. All right, coming up, we're going to go deeper into President Trump's Asian tour and what we can expect from that. Expert Gordon Chang will be joining me right after the break, so stay with us. We'll be back in just a moment.
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Good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss filling in today for Tony, and thank you so much for joining us. All right, as we've stated, President Trump is in Japan today after starting his Asia tour with a stop in Malaysia. And so far during this five-day trip, President Trump has reached trade deal agreements with Cambodia, Thailand, and Malaysia. He's also participated in a ceremony for the U.S.-Malaysia facilitated peace deal between Cambodia and Thailand. But the big question, the big question out there remains as to whether or not a trade deal will be struck between President Trump and his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping, who he'll be meeting with later on this week. There was an initial framework that has been agreed to between officials of the two nations, but is that going to be enough to really bring the both countries together? And what is this going to look like? Joining me now to discuss this and more is Gordon Chang. He's a senior fellow at the Gatestone Institute. He's also the author of Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America. You can follow him on X under the handle at Gordon G. Chang. Gordon, welcome back to Washington Watch. It's always great to have you. Thank you so much, Jody. Okay, so do we know much about the framework that supposedly has been agreed to by some of the officials between the U.S. and China?
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We just know the broad outlines. There's a one-year trade truce. And during this one year, the United States will not impose that additional 100% tariff. At the same time, the Chinese will not go through with their plans of a trade embargo on rare earths. They will buy soybeans. We'll be talking about fentanyl. And apparently, both Presidents Trump and Xi Jinping, they're going to sign a deal on TikTok. At least that's what we've heard so far. So right now, the issue is going to be who uses this year best or better. And I think it's going to be the United States because we see that we're taking measures to reduce our vulnerability to China. But China is doubling down on policies that make it more trade dependent, which means making it more dependent on the U.S.,
SPEAKER 11 :
So in a year, taking what you said there, that this probably is the advantage to the U.S., does that give the U.S. another year to buy some time to come up with some means of less dependency on China? Do you think that's what will happen?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it's already happening. We saw that with the Australian prime minister in the White House signing that $8.7 billion deal on rare earths on Sunday, which was a great day for U.S. diplomacy. We had agreements with Thailand and Malaysia relating to rare earths. So we are moving in that direction. The trade agreements that President Trump has been signing up this year, they tend to isolate China, and that's important for us. So we're going in a good direction. But there's one thing we have to be concerned about, and that is that we are giving up a concrete action not imposing the 100% tariff. And we're doing that in exchange for vague Chinese promises. And we've been down this road before. The Chinese don't honor their obligations. So this is going to be just something that we have to look at day in, day out, because we do not want the Chinese dishonoring the agreements that they made with us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, great, great point there. Even if a deal is struck, there is the issue of compliance to that deal. So that brings up a whole nother issue. How will the U.S. respond, do you think, if compliance is not met?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I hope that President Trump would just impose an additional tariff. And that would be an important thing. Plus, you know, there's also one other issue lurking in the background. And that is that the United States is going to talk to the Chinese about Chinese support for Russia in the Ukraine war. Now, Trump has not imposed that additional 25% tariff on China for buying Russian oil. That's the tariff we've already imposed on India. Now, the Chinese say that they're going to stop buying Russian oil. I think we have to see it before we believe it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it's going to be very, very interesting for sure to see how all of this comes out, no doubt. Now, they are going to be meeting in South Korea, President Trump and President Xi, which is expected to be President Trump's last stop of this tour, barring any impromptu meeting perhaps with North Korea. But we've seen some troubling developments even in South Korea, particularly how the government has been dealing with the church and religious leaders there recently. And so while we have a little bit of time left, I wanted to get your take on what's been going on there in that regard in South Korea. Yeah.
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E.J. Meng, the new president, is very pro-China, very pro-North Korea, very anti-U.S., and he's been jailing and detaining a number of religious leaders and basically holding them. A number of them have been detained for what's called political activity, which is prohibited, but normally it's just a very technical violation. got a fine and then sent off. But Yijie Meng is actually indefinitely detaining religious leaders. So this looks like an attack on religion. And it is just all religions right now, but especially Christianity is being hit. And you'd expect that from someone who looks like a communist. And Yijie Meng, unfortunately, although he says he's not, has been attacking democratic institutions. He's been supporting the Chinese communists. This is a very bad situation. South Korea could turn communist. I'm not saying, Jody, that it will happen. I'm saying that it could happen.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and that's what's concerning to many of us who have been following this. It's really a turbulent time there. Only got about a minute or so left, Gordon, going back to the President's Asia tour. In your mind, what will it take for this trip to be looked upon as a success? Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I look at our relations with our friends. So, for instance, the president right now is in Japan. He's solidifying our relationship. He's meeting the new Japanese prime minister, Takeichi Sanai. And that's important. He met the emperor a few hours ago. That's symbolically powerful. On the first stop, he had signed up all those deals you talked about. I think that those are more important than meeting Xi Jinping, because as we are very close, perhaps, to very bad outcomes, we need our friends and our partners, and we need to solidify those relationships. It's more important than trying to please people and regimes that hate us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, there is so, so much at stake, and we appreciate you, Gordon Chang, Senior Fellow at Gatestone Institute, for your expertise and for coming on and filling us in. Thank you very much. Well, thank you, Jody. All right, coming up, we'll highlight the nation's largest candidate research organization. They focus exclusively on informing Christians. Stay tuned.
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Thank you for tuning in today to Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss, an honor to be filling in for Tony. All right, it's time for our weekly Standing Together segment. This is a time where we highlight organizations that share our commitment to advance the kingdom of God by championing faith, family, and freedom. And this week, we want to shine the light on AFA Action. the governmental affairs affiliate of American Family Association, and the parent organization of iVoterGuide, which is the nation's largest candidate research organization that focuses exclusively on informing and mobilizing voters with biblical values. And joining me now to share more about her organization is Debbie Wuthnau. She's the president of iVoterGuide and vice president of AFA Action. Debbie, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to have you. Great to be back. Well, let me first of all say with an underscore, thank you so much for joining us a couple of weeks ago at our PrayVoteStand Summit. You were outstanding, and we truly appreciate you and your partnership and kingdom work, not only at that event, but beyond with all sorts of things that you do. So thank you so much for joining us for that.
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It was our honor. It's a fabulous event. And as a voter guide, it's great to be part of the PrayVote stand.
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Well, let's jump into that. iVoterGuide, I love it. Of course, we partner with iVoterGuide. But it's good timing right now. There are some elections coming up right around the corner. So why don't we start right there, share with our audience about what iVoterGuide provides for voters and how they can access it.
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Well, so our goal is just to educate voters. We create personalized ballots for every address in America. We don't cover every election down ballot quite yet, but in this year that you might not think there's not a lot on the ballot, we're covering quite a bit. So in Virginia and New Jersey, we're going to be covering all of your statewide and state legislative candidates, as well as some school board races. And if you go to iVoterGuide.com and you just enter your address, you will see your personalized ballot. They're at iVoterGuide.com. New Jersey has statewide and state legislative elections on the ballot. Same thing, you can get your personalized ballot there. But we're also covering some municipal and some school board races. The New York City mayoral race is being covered by iVoterGuide. We're covering Albuquerque City Council. several city councils in Kansas, Public Service Commission in Georgia. Pennsylvania has some Supreme Court races up for retention, and we've actually got lawyers that have researched those judges. So you can find out if they are an activist or an originalist if you live in Pennsylvania. And again, the goal is for you to get your personalized voter guide by entering your address. But if you want to scroll down and click on the map, you can click on any state and see what's going on in that state that iVoterGuide is covering. If you're in one of those states and you need to know where your polling place is, we also have that if you click on your map. So we've got school boards in about a dozen states. We've got special elections going on and ballot measures in California. They've got their redistricting ballot measure. And then Maine has some voter registration ballot measures. And Texas has parental rights and citizenship voting on the ballot. So quite a few things at iVoterGuide.com.
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Yeah, it's really amazing, Debbie, and while at the PrayVoteStand Summit, actually while you were speaking, I was, of course, sitting out in the audience, and there were a number of people saying, wow, wow, ooh, wow, while you were talking about some of this. So go just a little bit further. When you say people can personalize the ballot, perhaps for some that is pretty clear, but describe that a little bit further, just how personal – of a ballot and personal information can voters pull up?
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Well, we do we really do an in-depth research on every candidate. We've got a lot of data, but we make it easy to use. So you enter your address and you'll just see the races and candidates on your ballot. You don't need to know you're in, you know, House of Delegates District 47 or Virginia Senate District 63 or what school district you're in. If iVoterGuide's covering it, you enter your address. You'll see those races and candidates. And we'll have little green check marks because if we found a data point. So if we found campaign finance data, there'll be a green check mark. Same with scorecards if they've ever held office before. I don't know if you know Winsome Sears served in the House of Delegates. So she has scorecards from when she was a state legislator. We also have how they've answered our questionnaire. And we've dug deep on campaign finance data. So even in school board candidates, like in Loudoun County and Virginia Beach, where we're covering those school board candidates, our team has gotten those reports that you can see for yourself. But we also summarize who's giving money to the candidate, who they're expending money on. And so all the research is there, but what's really unique about iVoterGuide is we have an army of volunteers and our staff who dig deep and rate every candidate and their political philosophy, making it really easy to use. It's a gas gauge, ranges from far left to far right. We've got all of those ratings in these elections this November, but yet you can see the data for yourself. So it's just truth and objective data, not to tell you who to vote for, but to really help you cut through the media spin and see really what those candidates will do if you choose to have them represent you.
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We've got only about a minute or so left, but FRC Action is proud to be a partner with iVoterGuide, and we want to see as many people as possible utilize the resource and research from iVoterGuide. We've got some elections coming up. What is your message to those who may be planning to vote? What do they need to do?
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Well, my first message, if you're not planning to vote, you need to vote. We need Christians to let their light shine. in the public square, and that includes voting and voting wisely. So go to iVoterGuide.com and then get yourself to the polls. Either vote early if you can, which you have until the first or second, or vote on election day on November 4th by using the information at iVoterGuide. Because races are really, not as many people vote in these off-year elections. They're not even sometimes aware that they are an election. So, you know, we have school board races that iVoterGuide's covered. A third of them were won by less than 400 votes. So really, every voter.
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We've got to wrap it up, Debbie.
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Thank you.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss, keeping the torch ablaze today. While Tony is out, thank you so much for joining us. All right, before we go to our final guest for today, I want to remind you about a new resource that we have here at FRC. Many of you have joined us for our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. We've heard from so many of you. But we'll be starting a new 14-day journey through Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Philemon starting this Saturday, November 1st. And we have a new study guide to go along with it. It's called Paul's Prison Letters, and it will help you if you come along with us through this new reading program to find out and to get a copy, to find out more about it. Text the word LETTERS That would be like Paul's letters. Letters, and that's plural, to 67742. Come along with us. Let's stand on the word together. All right, as we often like to do on Mondays, we want to take a look at the news that's been buzzing over the weekend and bring on a panel from the Washington stand, and certainly the government shutdown remains the most talked about news, but there are some other notable news items that are out there to discuss as well. So now to go over some of those news items, Casey Harper and Mark Tapscott from the Washington stand. Gentlemen, thank you so much for joining me today. I appreciate it. Thanks, Jody.
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My pleasure.
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All right, let's start off with what everyone seems to be talking about, the government shutdown. We are now in day 27. Casey, you actually hit on this at the top of the program, so let me start with you. Can you unpack for us some more about this week, how this week really looks different perhaps from previous weeks when it comes to the shutdown? We've got some deadlines coming up this week. How does that potentially change things?
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Yeah, the second longest shutdown in government history is about to become a lot more painful for a lot of people for a few reasons. Congressional staffers for the House this week and then next week the Senate, they're going to start missing those paychecks. The lawmakers will still get their paychecks. There's a caveat in the Constitution. that prevents you from, you can't just cut a lawmaker's salary. I think that was meant to avoid some pettiness from lawmakers. But it's not just the congressional staff. Many civilian employees across government agencies, they're gonna miss, if they haven't already, they're gonna miss their first full paychecks Tuesday or Thursday. So that's a big one. The troops are on the verge of not getting paid again unless President Trump pulls again from that emergency Pentagon research budget to pay the troops. But that budget is running low. So he can't do that indefinitely. We also talked at the top of the program, as you mentioned, about food stamps. million Americans. November 1st, they're supposed to get those, the SNAP benefits. And some states are working to help get those benefits still, but they're going to start missing those benefits and states can't keep paying for them without the federal government forever. And then one more I'll mention, although there are others, Jody, is air traffic. We're going to start seeing air delays pile up more and more. They're already starting. But going into the all-important Thanksgiving travel season, if this doesn't get cleared up by then, there could be a lot of pain on the Thanksgiving travel front.
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There's a lot unfolding this week, so I know that puts a lot of pressure on them. Mark, let me run over to you now. You've written a piece that was published in the Washington Stand that really did an outstanding job digging into a part of this whole shutdown that many people may not be aware of, and that's what's fueling it all, probably a better terminology, what's funding it all. And that's the demand for a permanent extension of temporary Obama tax subsidies. Take a moment, if you will, and unpack that for us.
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Well, Jody, there is a phrase that I'm sure you've heard from time to time in your career. When you want to figure out what's really going on, you follow the money. And if these temporary Obamacare tax subsidies become permanent, as the Democrats are demanding that it be, here's what will happen. That will create approximately $52 billion in additional revenue for the healthcare insurance industry. That's a lot of money and they are spending lavishly on lobbying, and they have been all of this year, to make sure that they don't lose that income. The 50 billion, 52 billion would be over and above what they're getting now, which is in the neighborhood of 40 billion a year. So it shouldn't surprise any of us. They've spent their 10 largest health insurance companies have spent about $24 million just through the end of September on lobbying. That's the most they've ever spent in this particular – that period through the third quarter. So you follow the money. You see what's really at stake for the Democrats.
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Yeah, and you know, I think somebody has to ask the question, if Obamacare was such a great deal, then why are subsidies even needed? I guess that's a discussion for another time. Mark, while I've got you, let me ask you this. Speaking of behind-the-scenes money, If we can put it that way, there's an open source intelligence report that has gotten some attention over the weekend. And it basically has revealed how China provided more than half a billion dollars to top ranked American universities in recent years. What is that all about?
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Well, you know, the Chinese have for a number of years, they literally have sent millions of students to American schools because we still have the best education system at the graduate level. And in the process of that, they also have cultivated relationships, programmatic and personal, at Harvard, Yale, you name a major university in this country, and they have done it. And one of the calling cards for that is obviously money to fund professorships, for example. And with professorships in the academic world, he who pays the bill decides what gets taught. And that's basically what the Chinese are trying to do here, to shape how education is done here in America.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, that's startling information. Let me throw that back over to you, Casey, as well. I mean, this is pretty concerning when potentially the Chinese Communist Party is quietly steering who and what gets funded and actually perhaps even what gets taught at our base. universities.
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Yeah, I mean, they certainly have a hand in steering the content of the education, and that's pretty troublesome. But it's not just that, Jody. They actually steal an incalculable amount of intellectual property. And they target specific, the best universities and specific STEM and science programs. And it's important to know that they're not just stealing from Stanford, although they have, or not just stealing from Harvard, although they have. They're stealing research that took maybe 10 years of federally funded research. So the federal government pays millions of dollars to these universities to find cures, to come up with weapons technology, to develop new ways to make solar panels slightly more efficient so they can go on an aircraft carrier or something like that. And then at the end of the process, as Mark alluded to, that there's a Chinese national student or a bought-off professor just hands the information over. And this is not just speculation. I mean, you have the data that Mark laid out. But there is a Harvard professor, for instance, who is getting $50,000 a month. $50,000 a month from this Chinese group that is helping coordinate with professors and pay them off. And he was eventually charged for something related to that. But he's just one example. It's not just Harvard. It's all these universities. And they're stealing... secrets, they're stealing research that Americans paid for to fund. And I'll point out one more thing before I toss it back to you, Jody, which a lot of people don't know this, is that Chinese national students who come to study in the U.S. are legally obligated in China to cooperate with Chinese intelligence gathering operations, even when they're in the U.S. So if you're a Chinese national from Hong Kong, you come to the U.S. to study at a place like Stanford, and the Chinese intelligence gathering folks call you up, you're obligated legally to work with them whether you want to or not, and you will face legal consequences if you don't. And there's thousands of these students at schools all around the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
So in essence, they're spies.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, unwilling often, but yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, unwilling, but I mean, the Chinese government is using them in that way. Casey, let me keep you while I've got you here right now. Let's turn to some good news if we can dig something up here. There's got to be something around here somewhere.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
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But a federal judge last week actually ruled against the former Biden administration's attempt to rewrite Title IX to force the radical gender ideology on the American people. Tell us a little bit about that case. I know you've been following it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I've read a lot about this case. It's been going on for years and years, and it's hard to understate the importance of this. So basically what the Biden administration did, this did not get a lot of attention at the time, but they took laws that were meant to protect, ironically, to protect women and women's sports, and they change the meanings of the words in the laws to make it also apply to transgender people. So the law specifically says you can't discriminate against people on the basis of sex. And that was meant to protect women's sports and to make sure that You know, you weren't like denying care to women for some reason or giving way more money to the guy's football team and not giving any money to the women's volleyball team. That's what it was meant to do, to protect women. But the Biden administration said, well, you know that word sex, even though it was written in 1972 and it's meant sex ever since it was written, it actually meant gender identity and sexuality, Jody. You didn't know that, but that's what those lawmakers in 1972 and decades ago meant when they wrote sex. They meant the gender spectrum that hadn't even been invented then. And so because of that, they were able to force on schools, all kinds of, and other institutions, all kinds of different policy changes and threatened to withhold federal funding and say in the case of health care, you know, a nurse or someone could be punished for refusing to engage in some kind of transgender procedure or something because it was discrimination on the basis of sex. And so this ruling is really important because it undoes what Biden did there. And it does not just apply to the 15 states that filed the lawsuit, but it applies in all 50 states.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, Mark, Give me your take on this. Is this just another example of the left trying to hijack something that perhaps was created originally for good, but now is being hijacked to advance a radical agenda?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I think that's exactly what it is. As it happens, I have a good friend who was the first ever women's field hockey scholarship winner at the University of Virginia. This is some years back, right after the Title IX took effect. And you look at what's happening now. She was quite petite. She's very fast, very, very quick on her feet. But if she had to play today against trans males who may weigh 100 pounds more than her, she would very likely be injured. And that would, you know, she would not be unique in that. The trans ideology is intended by the left to give bureaucrats and government supervision over that aspect of American education, and it's a serious, serious problem.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is a serious problem and a dangerous problem. Who would ever have imagined, what, even five years ago, that we would be watching men in women's sports? And we've seen a number of women injured with all of this. Absolutely. Who would have ever imagined that we would be here? Casey, let me come back to you. You had mentioned that there were 15 states here, but this ruling is going to go beyond the 15 states. So how does that work? Where do you see this going long term? What is this actually going to mean on a national scale?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, well, it's good news, obviously, for those opposed to the forcing of transgender ideology on these schools and other places. You know, anything can always go to the Supreme Court, but who can predict that? Right now, this is a major win in an issue that the right has largely stacked up win after win after win at the Supreme Court. And you have to think that the opponents actually will not be eager to bring it to this court because this court has shown to be disfavorable to some of the arguments there. But long term, what does it really mean? It means that institutions that want to be unbiased or stay out of the transgender thing, they can stay out of it. It's important to know that the Biden administration's policy was not, hey, everybody just kind of make your own decisions, live and let live. The Biden administration policy said, you will fully embrace the transgender ideology. You will put money behind it. You will change signs on doors. You will provide different facilities. And if you don't, you will lose money and you might be fined. And schools, I wrote years ago about how they were threatening to take school funding. A lot of schools get federal assistance to pay for lunch for low-income kids. The Biden administration was threatening to take that money away from schools that didn't get on board, for instance, with transgender locker rooms. And this was not just education. It was across the board. But education has, of course, been a big battlefield on this.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, Mark, that goes right back to what you were saying earlier. Invariably, follow the money trail, and it'll lead you to all sorts of issues that we need to have brought to our attention and to be dealt with. I didn't ask you, Mark, real quickly, your thoughts on the government shutdown this week. You were talking about the money trail and all those things. Where do you see—what's your take on what you think might happen this week? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't really expect much of anything to happen this week. I know there are some informal talks going on between some Senate Republicans and Senate Dems. There's frankly not a lot of encouragement that those talks are going to result in anything. My guess is we're going to have to see some real manifestation of serious pain. Thanksgiving flights not being available, for example, SNAP children not being able to be fed before we're going to see some serious consideration of what's going on and Democrats in the Senate reconsidering their position.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it's going to be an extremely important week seeing how all this unfolds. There's a lot at stake. You know, you just look at the whole landscape. There's the presidents in Asia so much at stake in that trip that is taking place. We've got the shutdown and a host of things happening in our own country. We look across Europe. to Israel. And we see all the issues that are happening there. It just seems like the whole world is on fire. And I just want to personally say a huge shout out and thank you to both of you and all those at the Washington Stand for an outstanding job that you do of keeping us informed of what's happening. And we are deeply grateful. I want to thank both of you gentlemen for joining us today on Washington Stand. We appreciate it very much.
SPEAKER 10 :
My pleasure.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, friends, that's all we have today on this edition of Washington Watch. As always, thank you for tuning in. Hope you have a fantastic evening and we will continue on tomorrow right here on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 14 :
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On today’s Sekulow, Logan and Will break down major breaking news — the American Federation of Government Employees, one of the largest federal workers’ unions with over 800,000 members, has publicly split from the Democrats, calling for an immediate end to the government shutdown. The union, which previously endorsed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, is now urging both parties to pass a clean continuing resolution and reopen the government — a move that directly contradicts the Democratic leadership’s strategy.
Logan shares how the shutdown’s ripple effects are now hitting everyday Americans — from military families relying on food banks to private-sector workers waiting on stalled federal permits. Then, the ACLJ legal team joins the show to discuss a pro-life preacher in Georgia who was cited despite having a valid permit to speak — a clear First Amendment violation.
Listeners call in with heartfelt and fiery perspectives — from those insisting Republicans stand firm to families struggling under the shutdown’s financial pressure. The episode wraps with discussion on 2028 presidential contenders and the potential rise of radical candidates like Mamdani in New York.
Through it all, the message is clear: when both parties dig in, the people pay the price — and ACLJ won’t stop fighting for free speech and religious liberty through it all.
SPEAKER 09 :
we got breaking news major union breaks with democrats calls to end the shutdown keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110 And now your host, Logan Sekula.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to Sekula. We've got a show for you. Will Haines is joining me in studio, executive producer. This is Logan Sekula, by the way, in case I needed to double down and let you know. We have one of our attorneys, Liam Schumi, joining us from Washington, D.C. as we've got to update a pro-life case out of Georgia. Not always where you think there will be issues with pro-life demonstrators or pro-life protesters, if you will. But that is not the case. We're going to talk about that coming up. But, of course, we are starting with the breaking news, and that is one of the largest federal workers' unions has called to end the shutdown saying it is time to put partisan politics beside us. Stop this. We have to wrap this up at any means necessary. And look, I'll tell you, I was at a drugstore this morning and that was the talk. And you only see that a lot. of even the staff working there was about the government shutdown was about the fact that you have military now having to go to food banks and the situations that are at hand. This is the conversation that led them to other conspiratorial things that I just say were being talked about where I went, okay, you know what? It's now the trickle down of the government shutdown is, is now headed to your local big box pharmacy, it is maybe time to really start to talk about the options for wrapping this up. And of course, we all want it to be wrapped up. But now you have, Will, one of the biggest unions in America, the American Federation of Government Employees, saying it's time.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. So this is a union that specifically has members that are members of the federal workforce, government employees. They have about 800,000 federal workers that are members of this union. Now this union, as traditionally unions are more progressive, they normally are more sided with Democrat politics. We saw that change. shift in the last election however this one the one that represents the bureaucrats and all the government workers uh endorsed both joe biden and kamala harris publicly so they were on record of the direction they wanted to go certainly more liberal leaning this isn't just a traditional union That's right. So now this labor union with 800,000 federal workers has put out a statement from their president, Everett Kelly, this morning that says it's past time to end this shutdown. In the preamble to this letter, it does try to throw blame at Congress in general instead of just the Democrats. However, here is their path forward. It says the path forward for Congress is clear. Reopen the government immediately under a clean, continuing resolution that allows continued debate on larger issues. Ensure back pay for every single employee who has served or been forced to stay home through no fault of their own. Work together on a bipartisan basis to address important policy matters like addressing rising costs and fixing a broken appropriations process. So they are calling, though, for the clean CR to pass and reopen the government. That is what the Democrats have voted against 12 times thus far. So this is, while they are couching it as Congress needs to do their job and both sides have made their point, this is targeted at one party, the party that they align with, the party that they endorsed, both presidential candidates in this last cycle. They are saying enough is enough. Reopen the government. Let's stop these political games.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I think now the hurt is on for real and it's starting to really impact a lot of people. And of course we have been pushing. for this to be wrapped up since the beginning. But now, this could put a lot of pressure on Democrats to finally end this. We know the unions have a lot of power. And look, you may be for or against unions in general. I think a lot of us have felt actually our grow towards understanding why the unions need support. I believe there should be some. Some of these unions are really great. Some of them are not. Some of them create completely unnecessary red tape for the job provider and all the things that come with it. However, There are these situations where the unions do have power and maybe with their power we can get this closed. We're also going to talk about the 2028 election. Not something I want to be talking about in 2025, but it seems to be one of the top stories of the day as the voices who seem to be the potential running candidates have started to at least lay the groundwork for those official announcements. And it happened from at least three different people. So I'd love to hear from you whether that is on the shutdown or whether that is going to be on this pro-life street protester that you will hear creature outside of Georgia. You're going to talk about that, of course, later on that 2028 presidential run. What's it going to look like? If you've got questions about that, 1-800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. Again, we have a packed show today, but of course we are leading with the breaking news. So many of you are just joining us right now. I think we've got to restate what we're talking about is that one of the biggest unions, the American Federation of Government Employees, has now said this is an avoidable crisis. It is time to wrap up the showdown. The shutdown feels like that. Both political parties have made their point, and there is still no clear end in sight. It's time to pass a clean, continuing resolution. And in this shutdown today, no half measures and no gamesmanship. This is a big moment because this is a Democrat-led, really, and they endorsed both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris last time around to be the president of the United States. So this is not talking about one that's maybe, you know, some of these different ones that have now come out and support more Trump. Maybe these are ones that are not necessarily federal employees, the American Federation of Government Employees. Now, this is starting to hurt people for real, and I did have, I kind of overheard a conversation that said that today, and I started realizing, oh, if it is starting to kind of work its way into the American people's lives. And then, you know, in their defense, they see the East Wing construction, that we know the funding of that. I'm talking about the optics. They see, of course, that your representatives still receiving their paychecks. And then you see the military having to go to food banks in Chicago. This is where the American people start to turn. And when you have something like the American Federation of Government Employees saying, it's time to wrap it up, as Will said, these unions have more pressure Or can put on more pressure than maybe you think.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. They're very powerful. A lot of times they are very large donors to specific political parties. And then their membership as well many times is donating to that political party as well. And when you see someone who represents over 800,000 federal and D.C. government workers and writes things like this to ensure they ensure our skies are safe. Our veterans receive care, our borders are protected, and our food is inspected. They come from every political background and every corner of this nation. What unites them is a simple belief that service to country is honorable work. Today, that belief is being tested. The Army nurse in San Antonio, the TSA officer in Atlanta, the USDA food safety inspector in Iowa, and hundreds of thousands more like them are being asked to keep our country running, without the paychecks that keep their households afloat. When you think about this language, and once again, I want to point also that although the blame is being shared equally or thrown equally at Congress and in both parties by the president of this union, the solution that he is asking for is the one that the Republicans have put forward 12 times and been voted down in the Senate 12 times by the Democrat party. He is calling for just reopening the government as well as getting away from this recurring tactic that is being used in D.C. to try and fight over policy by shutting down the government. And when you start to also think about how you're talking about hearing it now at the pharmacy. I was doing some reading and research over the weekend and starting to think about when it goes this long, where the trickle down happens, because you think, OK, well, the private sector, the economy is doing fine. But then you start to think about ranchers or people that are starting products, projects like construction that require federal permits. things of that nature when it's been shut down that long you could say okay a couple weeks it just kicks down the road a little bit once they get back open i'll get that move forward but if you're a rancher and your product has to get approved by the fda or by the usda or if you're a construction project that requires federal permits and leases that are not going through at this time the That starts to affect the private sector a lot more when you start to get into this three weeks, one month of being shut down. And that's what we're starting to see now. So last week when we talked to people that most people would call in and say, I haven't seen it affect me yet. I'm not a government employee. And you had the division where the government employees would call in and be like, I have worked for two decades at the federal government and here's how this is affecting me. We have some calling in even now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. we should do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I think that's where you're about to see the split and why this union breaking from party lines is a really big deal because of this.
SPEAKER 04 :
When you brought up this morning and I literally just walked out of an overhearing conversation that I never thought I would hear, it was that, oh, okay, things are real now and we need to wake up here. Mike's calling in New York. Mike, go ahead on line two.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, hi. I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller. This really affects my household because my wife's Uh, she went through the RIF program for the last, uh, she's been on three weeks now. We had to go to a food bank, uh, last week and we saw some of her workers there and the team is just, you know, I mean, we're praying and, and, and hopefully what you just said today could be a revelation about this American, uh, federal union worker, uh, I know they're huge, 800,000, so I'm hoping that today there's a breakthrough because we're struggling. Our mortgage is tied up on this. You know, it's really hitting home.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Mike, I will say there are obviously a lot of people are having those concerns. I know that some banks and some of the lenders make sure you look into it. I know I've logged in and they said, hey, if you're currently being affected by the shutdown, please let us know. There's things we can do to help you out. I don't know the details of that, but I am seeing those come up from time to time. So make sure you're paying attention to that as well, Mike. But yeah, this is kind of it's got to be done. We've hit a breaking point. I can tell the American people you can feel the change this morning. I mean, that is the difference. The fact that you could feel a change happen almost overnight is where we're at. And look, I don't take any of this for granted. I look at it and go, okay, what are we doing here? Outside of partisan politics, where do we end up and where we're going? And it does feel like, well, we've been in a stalemate for such a long time. There is no progress. And when there's no progress, I think that's when the American people start to also lose any hope and just see politics. Because when no one will come to the table, when it is just, well, I'm not...
SPEAKER 07 :
you know budging and i'm not budging well we're just going to make everyone suffer that is where you start to uh feel a bit like a revolt is coming well and to the point of mike uh who said his wife works for the internal revenue service the there was a story out this weekend some some ran it as kind of like a a fun interest piece and others were like this is how ridiculous it is but that there's someone in dc that's a irs employee that has started running a hot dog cart to make money in D.C., on the streets of D.C., and he's going in his suit. He's obviously making almost a marketing thing out of it, but that's what it's come to.
SPEAKER 04 :
Probably end up making more money than working for the federal government.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, in some cases, yes, he may be. There's always money in the hot dog stand. go back to this this union statement it says both political parties have made their point and there's still no clear end in sight that's exactly what you're saying is that the stalemates there they're not budging either way and it is starting to trickle down and not just hurt federal government employees which is awful but also it's going to start seeping into the entire economy and then you're going to get real vocal people from all over the country on both sides of the aisle saying knock it off
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's happening, folks. It's happening. We need to be really keenly aware of that. Like I said, I'd love to hear from you about it at 1-800-684-3110. In the next segment, we're also going to hear from an ACLJ attorney. Look, the ACLJ is hard at work. We're not stopping just because of any sort of shutdown. So I need you to go to ACLJ.org right now. Look, we have been defending free speech and religious liberty for over 35 years. We have been helping people preach the gospel for 35 plus years. That is why we are always taking legal action to stop any attempt to criminalize and silence those that are on the streets. We're going to hear from that coming up. The public sidewalk has been the public sidewalk since it was decided in a case that we did in the early 90s. And you've been a part of that with us since then, saying it is okay to be, whether it's protesting, whether it is praying, whatever it may be, if it's a public space, it is yours to do with limited restrictions what you can do. And that's thanks to our team at the ACLJ and obviously thanks to God. But none of that happens without you. even when the targeting is unmistakable and is aimed at Christians, you need to support the work of the ACLJ. I know it's a tough time. We just got off of talking about the economy. So for me to then do a fundraising pitch, it feels a little tone deaf. But for those that's not affecting, know that is really important. especially as we start heading in towards the end of the year. Things start getting a little crazy, always in November and December. That is where not only do obviously we see a lot of people who decide this is when they want to donate, but we also see a lot of cases come in because now people have been back to school for a while. Now they're heading into the holidays, into Christmas. And we know, you know, the quote unquote war on Christmas is actually more real than a lot of people want to admit. And that stuff happens all around the country, especially to kids. kids that are silenced at their schools. Well, with that, the ACLJ is always available for your help. So I want you to go to aclj.org and go to our help desk if you need to. It'll be attached to a lawyer, but of course you can support the work financially. We never stop working. We're here for you. I wanted to say that though, as we head into the next segment, because in the next segment, you're going to hear from one of our new attorneys, newer attorneys, young attorneys, I'll say that, who is, you know, these are the guys that are in the field. They are working hard for you. They are doing the grunt work. They are there. We're going to discuss that coming up. This is out of our Washington, D.C. office, talking about a pro-life preacher out of Georgia who is being silenced again. This is coming in Georgia. You know, we're talking about the Bible Belt here, but still, this stuff is happening. It feels like it's always been Georgia. It's where I was born and raised, and it feels like this has always been one of those hotbed places for restriction of pro-life speech. With that being said, phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you about the shutdown. I would like to hear about that. And then also... We're going to talk about 2028. And I know you're saying, Logan, why? Because everyone else is. You know what? President Trump is. Gavin Newsom is. There's some others. Talk about how that's going to shape out. Of course, we're talking about a lot of people who want to run as the Democrat and some that want to run as a Republican. And those voices are already starting to make waves. As we know, we'll be heading into a brand new presidency, at least according to most people. We'll be heading into a brand new president in a few years. We'll talk about all that controversy that lays with it as well. And again, Liam from the ACLJ is going to be joining us here in the next segment. The phone lines are open for you. I'm going to say it slow because you always say I say it too fast. 1-800-684-3110. The number's right there below me. 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow. Welcome to Secular. Phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. I'm going to kick this to Will. We're bringing Liam from the ACLJ on our legal staff because I want to make sure that we get all the facts straight, Will. This is coming out of the state of Georgia, which I know some of you may be listening going, that's a surprise, especially when it comes to limiting free speech or limiting pro-life speech.
SPEAKER 07 :
In some ways, though, it's old school, because some of the original cases were not even able to pray quietly in front of an abortion clinic without the police being there ready to cite people like my father, who was there in front of it over 35 years ago. So quite some time ago. But Liam, this is quite an interesting case because. This is not just someone who was going out in front of an abortion clinic on their own anytime. They were trying very hard to follow the rules of the city where this clinic was located. This pro-life advocate and Georgia member of the pro-life community went out to this clinic, but got a permit from the city to be able to use some voice amplification and things of that nature and was issued that permit. goes out, starts doing his thing, and then ends up being cited by police in this. Give us a little bit of a rundown of the backstory here and how outrageous this is.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's exactly right. Jason had a permit for what he was doing issued by the city. He had it with him in July back when he was cited. And Jason was ready to comply with the law. But what the city did was they put a requirement on the permit that said, if you receive any complaints, this permit is null and void. They completely baked in what we would call a heckler's veto.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Liam, I think that's what's most fascinating here is that you get a permit as long as no one objects. And you mentioned the heckler's veto, something that we've had to fight many times here at the ACLJ and we'll continue to fight it here. But the irony of having a clause like that in a permit in and of itself is, I mean, if a farmer's market, if someone didn't like that this farmer's market had obstructed traffic that day and complained, would they be cited? No, we obviously know that there's also a layer of discrimination here. It's because of the content of the speech that this got this far anyways. They give them the permit and then as soon as someone complains, it's not just that you have to leave, but there's a citation issued. What are we doing for this client in these next steps?
SPEAKER 01 :
I mean, that's absolutely right. So we're going to make sure that he's not going to court alone, that he has the full power of the ACLJ legal team defending him to make sure that, one, that he doesn't have to pay any punishment for this citation. Two, that he can continue to spread his message that's being a voice for the voiceless and the unborn. And three, fixing this policy moving forward.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Liam, I think there's a lot of people interested right now in the chat asking for a lot of details. I think it's important also to know that we'll reveal a lot more as we get later on. Sometimes you want to make sure you're protecting your clients, protecting people. Look, as we've seen before and more recent history, you've seen violent attacks on some of these pro-life demonstrators if they're out there. They are making a big risk, not just from a legal point of view or from a police. They're taking risks. from physical protection. So when some people have asked specifics on city and location, a lot of that will be revealed later on when we have a resolution. I want people to know that we're not just hiding that. We have to protect some of this because it is such an active moment here right now, and it is such really an egregious moment for the American people to really be looking at people who are demonstrating on the streets and know that they can do it safely and protect it.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely right. I mean, we need to do everything we can to protect our client and make sure that he can continue to do this work. When it comes to these kinds of cases, it's about hearts and minds. And these people on the front lines, they're doing amazing work. And I think everyone here at the ACLJ is just happy to be able to support them in that role.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that is why that ACLJ team is there. And that's why people like Liam are ready to go whenever we have a call me. It's legitimately all year long, 365 days. We've dealt with this kind of thing on Christmas. We've dealt with it on major holidays. It's important to make sure we have a team that is ready and understanding that when you become a member of the ACLJ as a member of our team here officially, like a staff member or a member of the legal team, that there's not office hours. Things don't shut off. We're working 24 hours a day, 365 days out of the year worldwide. Because remember, we have offices in Europe. We have offices in Jerusalem and in places we can't talk about. The ACLJ is always active. It's always happening because none of these are on some sort of restricted business hours.
SPEAKER 07 :
And one other thing I wanted to bring up with Liam is Liam. inadvertently, I'd say, almost has become one of our experts here on defending these clients that are targeted by local officials, whether it be pro-life advocates or people preaching the gospel, whether it be in Chicago, Ohio, now Georgia. But Liam, we're starting to see this pattern. We're getting more of these clients coming to the ACLJ for help, almost in a surge that we haven't seen in some years. Just what you're seeing across the country It seems like the local municipalities are taking things into their own hands because maybe the temperature in Washington and the federal government isn't restricting Christian or pro-life speech as much as they were under previous administrations. Is it fair to say that you're seeing an uptick in these kinds of cases that are coming into the ACLJ that you're having to many times go to court to defend these people?
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, what you guys said, it's exactly right. We are getting requests from all across the country at an unprecedented rate. I don't know what's causing it, but I can tell you what I see, and that is that voices are being silenced. Well, at least they're trying from cities all across the country. We've seen it in Chicago. We've seen it in New York, now Georgia. What I think our legal team is really focused on is being able to respond to as many of those and as much as we possibly can. Our goal is to make sure that anyone who comes to us, hey, I've got a citation, I've got a court date, I don't know what to do. We want to make sure that every one of those people has the legal representation they need.
SPEAKER 04 :
Liam, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Obviously, the work of the ACLJ, as I said, is important and continues. And that work is twofold. It's the media side of what you watch here, and of course, our legal team that's out in the field doing the hard work each and every day. Of course, our incredible media team here and around the country that is working hard as well. But these are... equally important. We need to make sure we can get the voice out there and make sure we can also be a voice for you in court. And none of that happens without your support at ACLJ.org. So I'm going to continue to ask you to support the work as we start heading in towards the end of this year. I can't believe we're here, but this last week in October, everybody, I know it's hard to believe, but you know, we've got the holidays around the corner and that is going to be a big time for the organization. So I need you to start considering your support. And of course, phone lines are still open for you as we head into the second half hour and If you don't get us on your local station, if you're listening on terrestrial radio or you're listening in a way that only carries the first half hour, no, we broadcast live for an hour. That's from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern time. If you're listening to this later, you can find us, of course, archived on ACLJ.org on YouTube. However you get your podcasts, we're there. But I'd always love for you to join us. We do it every day, Monday through Friday, from 12 p.m. to 1 p.m. And, of course, that is Eastern time, and you can work your way back from there, where you are. We always want you to be a part of it. You can always be a part of the conversation on YouTube or on Rumble. And you can get your comments in that way. I always like to ask if you got nothing to say and you don't want to call in, let me know where you're watching from. We have people that watch this show from around the world. And I always love to hear from people that are five miles down the road or 500 miles or 5,000 miles. It's really fun to see how big the reach can be online now thanks to you and your support. There's tons of you who are watching right now who've never watched before. I can tell you that by looking at the numbers. You've never seen us before? Hit that subscribe button if you're watching on YouTube. That's all I ask. Or the follow button. Whatever kind of platform you're watching on, do that right now. It's a great way to help join the over half a million people who do that each and every week. Be a part of it right now. That's at ACLJ.org on YouTube. Hit subscribe. Be right back in less than a minute.
SPEAKER 09 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Second half hour of Sekulow coming up right now. And before we were at break, I said, hey, let me know in the chat where you're watching from. We have a lot of people watching. I want to say, hey, where are you coming from? There's a lot of people who are watching. Some of them may be honest. Some may be not. But I don't know. We've got people listening right now from around the country. Of course, a lot of people in New York. A lot of people who are concerned about what's going on in New York with the election coming up. Where else we got here coming in? We got... We got someone watching from West London in the UK. That's always fun. California, Maine, Missouri, Arkansas. I like reading states, Will. There's a lot of people who are chiming in. Southern California always.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which is your favorite state to read? Of all the states? Yeah. Like when you're reading them off and you're like, ah, I like to read that, that that person's watching from there. Alaska's a good one.
SPEAKER 04 :
The more rural, the better. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was going to say Alaska, maybe some Idaho.
SPEAKER 04 :
One person says Antarctica. It's really cold and YouTube is all we have here. If that's true. Rock and roll. Call in. Yeah. 1-800-684-3110.
SPEAKER 07 :
Send us a picture. Right. We got to have proof. How cold is it?
SPEAKER 04 :
Very cold. All right. Let's reset what we're talking about here. A lot of people saying ACLJ champions. A lot of champions chiming in. That's great. Canada representing. There you go, Will. And they did the live long and prosper. Oh. Is that a Canadian? Well, they are Canadian, aren't they? William Shatner Canadian. Yes. I'm not sure about Nimoy. I don't know where he was from. You can find that out, I'm sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's a lot of people watching right now. We should tell them what's going on because the largest federal workers union, so this is the American Federation of Government Employees.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
They represent more than 800,000 federal workers. They're very influential. They endorsed both Biden and Harris in the last presidential run. And then we've got some kind of surprising statements coming out of their president. He issued a statement that says it's past time to end this shutdown. And what he's calling on Congress to do is what the Republicans in the Senate have tried to do 12 times with the Democrats blocking it. They need five Democrat senators who will listen to someone like the president of the American Federation of Government Employees. to end this shutdown says pass a clean continuing resolution and in the shutdown today get the paychecks flowing back to the workers that are forced to work as well as those that have been furloughed allow them to come back to work and logan we've been talking about how one this is one of those big influential type organizations this union that could start to sway democrats why because Because they're a lot of times the ones that fund these campaigns of these Democrats and especially heading into next year, a midterm election cycle. There's going to be a lot of Democrats that want to make sure that those funds are still coming in for the reelection.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, a lot of people are asking that. They go, how do you feel like this is going to push them? And where are Democrats right now? As far as right now, as we stand, there has been no real movement. No. There's been no real movement over this nearly 30 days. That's right. That this has been happening. So, again, that is why you're going to start seeing the pressure from some of these unions and other places come on, because this is the point where not only people losing money, they are losing a lot of revenue. you know, indirectly. So whether that, again, is the public parks or all those kind of things that start really having this trickle-down hurt that is gonna happen, you're gonna want to push, wrap it up. And I think that's why we're seeing so many people even watch right now well on YouTube. We're having some pretty big numbers right now of people watching live. If you've never seen us, hit subscribe. And we're seeing people chiming in from around the world. We have people in the UAE watching right now. We have people chiming in from Boston, Alaska, Saskatchewan, a lot of Canadians. Because probably Canadians are starting to get concerned, too. Right. Because the government shutdown starts to even affect them. Because they are just your neighbor to the north. There's a lot of transactions going on. Of course, you got all the tariffs happening. Someone says hello from 8 Mile. Will and I, fun fact, went to see 8 Mile at midnight together. The film.
SPEAKER 07 :
A lot of fun trivia here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Fun fact. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we'll get into more of this in the next segment because we have so many people joining us on this. We'll talk a little bit about 2028 politics as well because I think all of this plays in. And once again, you think back to what Bernie Sanders said last week when he said, you know, oh, on The View, well, we can't not let Congress get paid because there's a lot of people who can't afford it. That's right. I think when you start to get these self-proclaimed socialists like Bernie Sanders that miss the plot here, and don't realize that's exactly the pain that they're putting on the federal workers by not moving forward, that that's where you start to lose. They will start to lose money, their campaign money, in the midterm elections. And that's why it's important that a union like this speaks out. Phone lines are jammed.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're going to continue to take some more calls. Hey, one just opened up. Give me a call. Be Rabbit. Maybe he'll call in. 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are open for you, and there's only one line open. We have two calls that are on hold right now with two very different points of view. I think that's okay, and I think we should be able to share both of them. Both are dealing with different situations. Let's go first to Melissa, who's in South Carolina watching on Rumble, one of our favorite platforms. Melissa, go ahead.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, I really don't want the Democrats to cave to the Republicans to Democrats. Oh, gosh. I don't want the Republicans to cave to the Democrats, period. Republicans need to stand and we need to keep standing until they bow down to what we want, period. And what I'm doing is I'm giving money and food to people around me that are struggling because I know there are people, but I just don't want the Republicans to cave at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, there's no indication that they will, Melissa. I think if anything, you may see quite the opposite start to occur if you have people like this union saying, hey, it's time to end this. Melissa, on the other hand, though, of course, that's great. Thank you for supporting people in your local community. I believe we're called to do that. I think if you can support people, if you can donate, if you can donate food, whatever it may be, should that be where we are with our government employees, people that are working hard, especially financially? Those are maybe in the military. No, I hate the idea that military people are ever having to rely on food stamps or anything like that. I always say, you know, if there's one thing that we can spend government money on and just, you know, take care of people, maybe we need to be paying them enough to take care of their grocery bill if you're willing to be a member of our United States military. But of course, that seems to be too big of an ask for a lot of people. But Melissa, I appreciate your call and your feedback. Now I want to counterbalance that one with Roy, who is also watching on Rumble, who is calling from Texas. Roy, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
A central tenet of conservatism is to conserve. How do you justify being in the world's stupidest cult that wants to destroy everything?
SPEAKER 04 :
Not exactly what he told the call screener. So I said he's going to counterbalance it. Right, I mean, that's interesting. He said his son is in the military and he's concerned with them going without a paycheck. I thought that was actually a nice thing to go to, but Roy, you had to ruin it. That's okay, Roy. We can drop him though. Is that all right? Can we do that? Thank you. That took a little long there. No, I'm kidding. Phone lines are open, by the way, now. Because look, a lot of calls who were really like what Roy said have come in, which is people that are maybe traditionally conservative. Republicans who believe in the conservative causes, but are going, you know, my kids are in the military. My kids work for the federal government. My son or daughter work or I work at a public national park. These are not necessarily always high dollar paying jobs like you have a lot of savings. Probably you're probably living paycheck to paycheck. And now you're in a situation where the government. Still goes on. Like I said, the optics aren't great when you are building the East Wing, though I know that is not funded by the federal government. It doesn't look good. That was what I was overhearing today when I was just at a local Walgreens. I heard people talking about it, including people who work there, saying they were having concerns about, you know, they can build that East Wing, but they can't. figure out how to pay our military workers. And they're going back and forth. And then it starts, like I said, the spiral of conspiracy starts happening. And then you start realizing how much influence people have on social media. And then that becomes an even bigger thing. So when we talk about wrapping this up, we need to wrap it up. And speaking of that also, we got one line open, but let's get some of these phone calls screened.
SPEAKER 07 :
I want to actually address what Roy had to say, you know, talking about conservatives, it means to conserve. I'm not sure what angle like he was coming from, but I'm going to take him at what he told the call screener that it's about the the shutdown. Right. So if you want to go to that. What the Democrats are asking is for something added. They're trying to add an appropriations to the shutdown bill to reopen the government. So if you're talking about conserving, the Republicans are saying, let's keep status quo. Let's keep this going. We can negotiate policy. But however, that's not what the Democrats are allowing. And. by keeping that status quo they would be paying the military they'd be paying all these federal workers and then they could debate the policy later which also would give the democrats something to run on in 2026 in the midterms so if we're talking about conserving that's exactly what the continuing resolution the clean cr would do it would conserve the status quo Whether or not you think that's way too much spending, as many people do, it would not be messing around with the funding levels before a midterm election when the Democrats can make their case to the American people and they can get elected if they want. They can make that compelling case and they can vote. get elected, take over the House, and then they can be the ones that are drafting the funding legislation going forward. That's literally how this works. But instead, you have senators like Chris Murphy, who's one of these people that could end this shutdown by voting with Republicans on the clean CR. He has this to say. This is how he wants to spin the shutdown. Well, we're seeing bills last week getting voted down by Democrats to pay the military. When you have all of a sudden this large, the largest federal workers union going ahead and saying, you know what, let's end this. Let's do the clean CR. Here's how he's trying to spin this as if this is going to be a winning talking point. This is bite 11 about what he thinks the continuation of the shutdown really means. Let's hear from the senator.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think one of the reasons that President Trump is refusing to negotiate is because he likes the fact that the government is closed because he thinks he can exercise king-like powers. He can open up the parts of the government that he wants. He can pay the employees who are loyal to him. I mean, this is a leader who is trying to transition our government from a democracy to something much closer to a totalitarian state. And so this is part of what happens in totalitarian states. The leader, the regime only decides what things get funded and what don't, often in coordination with their oligarch friends.
SPEAKER 07 :
So what the senator there is trying to allege is that President Trump wants the government to remain shut down. because then he can be a king and can say, you get paid, you don't get paid, you don't get paid, you get paid. That's actually not what's happening. They did find some funds that they were able to reshift to get some people paid longer, like the military. However, that's vastly not the case at all anymore now all of that those little techniques they were able to find in the short term have dried up so one it's an outdated talking point but him trying to say that this is now what he wants it's becoming a totalitarian state because he's paying loyalist and not loyalist is just so absurd and out of touch and is is devoid of fact or the entire way through it so i don't know how they can get out there and say this on cnn with a straight face and still think that they're going to be rewarded by their constituents going forward because it's just the absurdity of it no part of this they're the ones that are being hardliners and saying we are going to get everything we want or we're going to keep the government shut down Meanwhile, the continuing resolution, it's not like it's the laundry list of Republican spending desires. It's just everything in the government stays the same way. That's a lot of projects and a lot of funding that conservatives don't like. That we have all of the Republican senators voting for to keep the status quo. So that's where it's a lie saying it's, oh, they just want to be able to pick and choose what they want to spend money on. Right now, they're not spending money on anything. And I just it gets so infuriating when you see this. And that's part of the reason why you see. The first big crack in the base of the Democrats over this is from this union.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if the pressure comes on, maybe that will cause some sort of change. We're going to call Kathy in Ohio on a take because it kind of refers to that, which is essentially what can we do now? Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what I'm suggesting is let's figure out. who the Republicans are that might hold and give them a call, tell us who they are, and then identify the moderate Democrats that need a little pressure to say, okay, let's deal with this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, at this point, none of the Republicans seem to even be talking about folding. So I don't think that there is that concern, especially, like I said, when you start to see a major interest group like this union openly starting to say this, you're not seeing that from a lot of the conservative groups yet. Now, that could happen if more pressure doesn't hit the Democrat side and something goes the other way. But right now, they are seeming to hold pretty strong about let's do this clean CR and move forward. Now, you're already seeing senators like John Fetterman. And what are they threatening to do? Because he's being kind of rational about this. Primerium. because he likes Israel and because he's, hey, I'd like to reopen the government. They're thinking he's not Democrat enough for us. He's not liberal enough, even though they praised him when he was running against Dr. Oz as the most liberal potential senator we could ever get. He's a union guy. He's a blue collar guy. And that's where you're starting to see the cracks.
SPEAKER 04 :
the democrats won't stand for that so they're even talking about trying to get him out of their party by pushing him out and primarying him well you know what folks hey we just lost a bunch of our calls i'll be honest so usually in the next segment i like to take as many calls as we can if phone lines were busy when you tried calling they have reopened we have about four lines open for you right now maybe five one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero i want to hear from you five lines open perfect time to call in and get your voice heard on the air, whether that is on pro-life protesters. We can talk about that. We can talk about the end of the shutdown. We can also talk a little about 2028. As we have said, you know, Kamala Harris has said she's not done and she's not the only one. We got a lot more to cover on that as well, but phone lines are open for you. But I also encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ is that the government may be shut down. We never do. And that is only because you are there for us. encourage you not only go and donate go check out the website there's such incredible amount of content or download the app it's all available for free nothing's behind a paywall and that is because people like you support the work of the aclj we can get all of this out there as much as we can that's at aclj.org we'll be right back Welcome back to Sekulow. To wrap up our Monday, I do want to hear from you, so we're going to take some phone calls coming up. Let's go ahead and start with that. Let's go to Warren, who's calling online, too, who's watching on Rumble. Warren, go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thanks for taking my call. It's twofold. My son is considered essential, so he's working without a paycheck, and yet we've been trying to get my wife on disability, and disability said even if she's on, she's not eligible for health care for two years. So I need the Republicans to stand strong because it infuriates me that my son's paycheck is held a hostage while they're trying to get free health care to illegals and my wife can't get health care.
SPEAKER 04 :
Again, this is the pressure that's on right now. And I think that people like you are going to start feeling that and start speaking out your voice. And if your voice is strong enough, you will see. break on one side or the other and right now it seems to be the breaking when we have to come from the democrats because uh the push the push is even coming from their own party it's coming from the unions that are very much uh democrat stronghold i'm not talking about the unions that started to go more trump here in the last time around more of the The blue collar unions were talking about the American Federation of Government Employees that again, Will said to 800,000 federal and Washington government workers. They said it's time to pass this. Both political parties have made their point. There's still no clear end in sight. I think that's the big concern is that it just feels like nothing is happening. It feels like there's no movement. And when it feels like there's no movement, that is where all of a sudden the pressure is going to become more extreme because you can't – feel like, okay, we're shut down. We're going to figure out how to get there. And when no one is coming to the table and it just feels like there's silence, man, it's deadly. Let's go to Michael in Florida. I want to start with the New York election. I think that's okay. We can pivot to that and then maybe talk a little about 2028 as well. Go ahead. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 11 :
Doesn't it seem like it's oxymoronic to call yourself Democrat socialist. And secondly, Can you imagine how sick the hypocrisy will be on the 25th anniversary of 9-11 if this man is mayor?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, of course, you're talking about Mamdami. I think the likelihood of him being mayor is very high. I think maybe this week we've seen maybe some shift, that maybe there's some cracks there that you could see Cuomo having a bit of a comeback as people start seeing some of his more radical views or they're seeing some of his lies that are kind of coming to fruition. Some of the stories maybe are a bit more storyteller-y. than realistic. Of course, the democratic socialist has become a very popular brand. I mean, you may say that it's oxymoronic, and I understand your point of view with that. However, it's the nice way to say, if you want to say communist, it's a nice way to say other things without having to say it. It means a lot. It carries a lot of weight when you say democrat socialist. I think, of course, if you're looking at the group who could potentially be mayor, I don't think you have a real strong group of people You have Cuomo. You have Curtis Sliwa. And, of course, you have Mamdani, none of which are the biggest and the loudest of voices. Mamdani, of course, has a big rally this weekend in Forest Hills, New York. They're big up into that venue, beautiful venue. Thousands of people show up. I know all the young people that I know. Of course, they're voting in New York. They're all voting for Mamdani. Yeah, these are people that didn't live through necessarily the 9-11 era. And of course, there does seem to be that progressive push to go, yeah, but doesn't that show you how far we can come? That we can come from September 11th terrorist attack to then having the first elected Muslim mayor of New York City. Yeah, on paper, that sounds very nice. It sounds like somewhat the American way to go at it. But when you have someone who is publicly... going with unindicted co-conspiracies of the first World Trade Center attack and campaigning with them, that's a little bit different than just your family down the street, which of course we all have and love and support those people. You're talking about someone who has been very radical, who has called for the support of the people who are really involved directly in terrorism and some of his hip hop songs. This is not a casual guy. Now you could say over the time, of course it could be very different when he was 19, 20, 25 than he is now. And look, like I said, if he wins, I'll be praying for him and rooting for him because I would love to see New York thrive once again. But when you have Bernie Sanders and AOC and him in the middle, it should be pretty loud where he's going to end up being in these positions. And of course, now we can start looking because I think it will be a bellwether of where 2028 is going to go, and specifically for the Democrats. When you have people like Gavin Newsom already saying, hey, and you know what? You got to give it to him again. Because I feel like everyone avoids that question. Are you considered running? And he didn't. He said, you know what? I'd be lying to you if I told you I didn't. That I wasn't considering it. And that is where he does come from a little bit of a different political background. He's slimy. He is who he is. He's slick. Again, he's Harvey Dent. But...
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Even Republicans usually, well, we've got to save that announcement. Well, in some ways, he's not telling the truth because he's been actively running for a couple years now, raising money, doing the events, going to South Carolina, going to Nashville, Tennessee, going to places where he's going to need the support in a primary. going to the South, going to places where even Joe Biden was not going to win. He lost the first two primaries and then turned his fortunes around in 2020 in South Carolina. So I think it's a little bit, sure, you'll give him some credit saying at least he's being open about it. It's three years early. But you got to start early. But he has been actively running for president already.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course, we've all known it. But now he has said it. Let's hear about one.
SPEAKER 07 :
after the 2026 midterms you're going to give it serious thought yeah i'd be lying otherwise i'd just be lying and i can't do that you can't lie of course that is actually the slickest answer logan i think he's ever given george washington yeah i cannot tell a lie he chopped out the cherry tree right that that's the story that is the story not a true story though Just a fable, a parable of sorts. It's a true-ish story.
SPEAKER 04 :
Ish story? It's like a story that's an amalgamation of a few stories.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is it now?
SPEAKER 04 :
There was a cherry tree.
SPEAKER 07 :
There have been, yeah. On his property. Okay. Did he chop it down? I believe he did. But did he not tell a lie?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't think he said, I cannot tell a lie. I think he may have said that later on. And then we, you know what? I'm not much of a historian. I look forward to that young Washington movie because then they'll tell me more information. It better have that story in it. Yeah. He's saying, I will not tell a lie. It's an old Norm Macdonald bit, I think. That's the scariest thing ever, to have a kid with an axe going, I grew my toe off. Let's go to Marty, who's calling on YouTube, watching in Florida. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Did he chop it down?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Modami, I tell you, if they elect this guy, they're going to destroy New York City. It'll be the end of it. They'll totally demolish it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Marty, there's been concern about that. Obviously, New York is not in the best place it's ever been. I love it. It's my favorite places in the world and I want it to be restored to what it once was and actually be much better than it could be a lot better than it ever was. But when you do have Bernie Sanders AOC and him in the middle, it is that concern of going, oh no, now we're headed towards a very different direction. Again, if he wins, I'll be praying for him and hoping for all of our leaders here because the mayor can only do so many things.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, there was an interesting story that got reported out in this weekend that when he was running for vice president of his high school class at this very elite prep school in New York, he promised free, fresh squeezed juice every day to the student body. However, he later told people, I just went and promised a bunch of impossible things to people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the impossible task.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so I think a lot of that is when you see the grocery stores and all this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can we take this real quick, line one? All right, so I just realized we have a call coming in from Australia. Let's go ahead. You only got like 25 seconds, but go ahead, Chris.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning. Calling from Australia. It's four o'clock in the morning here. So I'm a psychiatric researcher in Melbourne, Australia, and we interface a lot with American health care systems, particularly hospitals across California, Colorado, Florida. And the government shutdown is even affecting us down here just simply because we're having... very common issues with getting communications through to people. That makes sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
Chris, I hate this. Call me back tomorrow earlier in the show. It's three in the morning. Talk to you tomorrow.

Join professional money manager Bill Gunderson as he dives into record-breaking market highs, fueled by optimism over a U.S.-China trade deal. Discover how the pause on rare earth restrictions and potential soybean purchases by China are impacting the market landscape. This episode brings you inside the excitement following the significant progress made between global leaders over the weekend, leading to historic numbers on the NASDAQ and S&P 500.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gunderson.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome to the Monday. It is Monday, October the 27th. Do you know where your portfolio is? Well, we'll do our best to try to decipher and break down what's going on in the market today. I do know this. It's all-time highs. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and it's the Best Stocks Now show with the Dow up today on optimism over a trade deal with China. In fact, a lot of progress was made over the weekend towards that end. The Dow's up 303 points, 47,510. That is a record all-time high. Ditto for the NASDAQ. The NASDAQ is up 360 points on this China optimism. That's 1.5%. Huge gain for the NASDAQ today, 23,565. I've never said that number before on the NASDAQ. Why? Because it's never been this high before. And ditto the S&P 500. It's closing in on 7,000, believe it or not. The S&P is up 65 today to 6,587. Small caps up 93 basis points today. A little move higher in interest rates. We're at 4.03% on the 10-year. Gold is getting hit today. The rare earth stocks are getting hit today. And Bitcoin is up 1,300 right now. So welcome to today's Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite. He's back, our chartered financial analyst and a certified financial planner. And Barry, there's been a lot of progress made between Trump and she.
SPEAKER 05 :
over the last several days and that's got the market all excited here uh so far today the rare earths are a good judge in terms of uh you know if if things are going well rare earth prices you would think would come down right and then of course things aren't going good rare earth prices are going up so there are that's our uh that's one of our gauges at the moment
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Yes, and rare earth stocks are getting clobbered today. Why? Because I don't know if it's official yet, but the rumor is that China will pause for one year the restrictions that they put on those rare earth, all-important rare earth minerals. And that, of course, is helping the market. It's helping A.I., And on our end, we're getting a big boost here. And a lot of the AI stocks, with maybe us making available to China, we'll see how this all plays out. More of the AI software and chips, etc. And, well, we left off Friday with record highs in the market despite some really rich valuations. Okay, we can't ignore that because I've seen a party in the market back in 1999 and 2000 that carried valuations this high. We're there now almost with those same valuations we saw in 2000. Will this time be different? Is the earnings quality and sales growth superior, far superior to what we had with the dot-com stocks? back in two thousand we just have to be aware of where those valuations are right now and be on guard but record highs across the board okay the world stage first of all you know the polls had it wrong the media had it wrong they kept saying that me lay was behind uh... down in argentina in the election there he's a big controversial figure He's an ally of President Trump. He's got the same chainsaw in his hands that Elon Musk helped take to our government. Well, he won pretty big over the weekend, and the Argentinian stocks are way up today. Wow, look at that, 35.4% on the Bank of Argentina. Banco Macro up 34%, Pompa Energy up 25%. So big gains in Argentina. Hopefully our investment in Argentina is paying off. I hope Treasury Secretary Besant is closing out that trade for the U.S., but we did help them. We bought some of their currency. And hopefully making money on that here today is Miele. Big win down in Argentina. One of the few South American countries actually voting for you know, a non-socialist government. U.S.-China trade deal hopefully on tap following negotiations over the weekend. Besson said the additional 100% tariffs on China are effectively off the table for now. Supposedly they're buying soybeans again. And by the way, Besson owns a soybean farm. I want to say in Michigan, somewhere in that area. So he's happy. He's not out there running the tractor at night and plowing the fields. He rents. He gets rental income off of that. soybean field. And he added that, well, China supposedly will resume substantial purchases of U.S. soybeans. That's good for our soybean farmers. The rare earth stocks, on the other hand, are feeling the fallout of this. But I certainly would not say that rare earth is out of the picture for now. I We know that we need it long term.
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Which could last a month.
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Yes, it could. Next week they could say, okay, it's back on because of some kind of disagreement. And obviously we need to get off our dependence upon China. for those rare earth minerals. And there are some news updates on a few of them. One up in Idaho today, which is building like 1,300 homes up at their antimony mine in Idaho, the mountains of Idaho. So I would say rare earth is still in play, but it's definitely down today. Meanwhile, looking north, Trump says he will not resume Canada trade talks for a while. And I do see that they are pulling, the mayor of Toronto is pulling that Reagan ad where Reagan talked about his opposition to terrorists back in those days. And I got to believe Trump's rooting for the Dodgers against Toronto in the World Series. No, I don't know that for a fact, but I don't think he's happy with Canada voting. uh... right now and then of course later this week if there's not enough going on in the world we're going to have a hundred and seventy five earnings reports this week uh... from s and p five hundred companies including eleven that are members of the dow so this is the heart this is the very heart of earnings season many of the uh... fabulous seven will report this week but trump is headed to asia He's already made deals with a lot of the smaller Asian economies like Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. But obviously the big one will be China later this week, and him and President Xi will get together in South Korea. I wish I had Trump's energy, to be honest with you. I don't know what he takes every day if it's that big. You know that thing with 105 minerals that they advertise all the time, or if it's just natural, if it's just in his veins, if it's just his genetics, the guy has a lot of energy, that is for sure. We'll also, I think we get a monetary policy decision this Wednesday, right? Yes. And we're expecting another rate cut. So, man, I'll tell you what, there is a lot on tap. That's what makes my job so interesting.
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It's hard to find anybody out there who expects, you know, who doesn't expect at least a quarter point cut. Yes, okay. That's why you haven't heard much about it this weekend.
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That news just kind of slips through the cracks with all the other things that are happening in Argentina and in China. Yeah, we've got big tech earnings coming up. Oh, my gosh. We're going to review what's coming up, preview the earnings week ahead. Before we do that, when we come back, I'm going to go over where we're at so far in this earnings season. And if you want to know how well this earnings season is going so far, consider that all the indexes hit new all-time highs on Friday. We have not had a lackluster earnings season. Man, I can't even remember the last one. It's a tribute to corporate America, a lot of it, maybe 10% or 15% of the companies that really drive earnings in the S&P 500. The other 85% are just there as filler, kind of, and producing those single-digit earnings growth and sales growth numbers. But there were some remarkable earnings reports last week. But it pales in comparison with what we have on the docket for this week. So when we come back, we'll review where we're at so far in this earnings season. And then we'll preview this week. You may own or work for or be very aware of a lot of the companies that we're going to be mentioning that will be reporting those all-important quarterly earnings today. this coming week in the market. This is Bill Gunnarsson, very tight. It's the Best Stocks Now show. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. We also have the first day of voting, early voting in the New York City mayoral election, which has drawn a lot of attention, Barry. And Mom Donnie is way ahead in the polls. Will there be another exodus to Florida? Maybe they'll head down Sarasota way, and at least they can hear our show down there, Barry, in Sarasota and in Orlando. But we shall see. New York can do some crazy things from time to time, but it does look like he's well ahead of Cuomo. In the polls. Okay, here we go. Earnings season. Let's first give an update on where we're at so far in this current earnings season. And as you know, I give a lot of weight to earnings as it relates to the equities market. Just as real estate is all about location, location, location and interest rates and affordability and things like that. The stock market's lifeblood, especially for the indexes and individual companies, are earnings. And if you never get to earnings, you're in big trouble. That's the issue with a lot of the biotechs, rare earth stocks. the smaller nuclear stocks, etc. They're all hoping for earnings someday. And then there's those companies out there that have established earnings and those earnings are on the runway right now and they're taking off. You've also got companies that have soared to 30,000 feet and they've been coming in for a landing and their earnings have been decaying and decelerating over many years. And a lot of them are down to like single-digit earnings growth right now, which is something I don't really favor in my own philosophy on the market. We try to find, just like a baseball team tries to find superior players to stock their lineup with and their roster with, we try to find those stocks in today's world. that have those superior earnings growth, if you're a growth investor, okay? So let's take a look at where we are right now. in this current earnings season, which I believe we're about 20% into right now. We've got 87% of the companies beating their earnings, 83% beating their earnings estimates. Once again, that's a very big number. And once again, it points to the fact that they love to beat earnings estimates. And you would think that the analysts would get wise to this. But this has been going on for a long time. They know how to sandbag those earnings estimates. The earnings deal, earnings game. It's the earnings game, yes. And you've got a big percentage of the companies that are beating those earnings estimates. In fact, a robust number, not only beating earnings estimates, but also sales estimates. Now, at this point in the game, we've got, well, we're up to 30%. 30% of companies have now reported. Now we're looking for 9.2% growth in earnings versus the same quarter last year. And let's not forget that the same quarter, comparable quarter, comparable quarter last year was record earnings. This quarter is going to be record earnings. earnings for the s&p 500 we're looking for 9.2 percent increase over this same time last year there's a big reason why you're seeing new record highs in the markets in all the indexes yeah and you're and you're getting i mean the other thing is too you're you're looking at the stuff on a weekly basis and updating it in the newsletter with the uh with the you know with your s&p outlook and
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You're going to have a lot more information after the end of this week. We get five of the seven quote-unquote magnificent seven names. We get Apple, Alphabet, Amazon. Microsoft and Meadow later this week.
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And with this trend in place.
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It increases that percentage of how many have reported.
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Yes, and with this trend in place, with 87% of the companies beating their estimates, that 9.2% could be over 10%. expected growth by the end of this week. What you don't want to see, and we will see it at some point in time, you'll get an earnings season that all of a sudden, you know, we're maxing out and we're starting to put out lower expectations. Now, that's not happening yet. Expectations are still going higher than what the analysts originally anticipated. When we began this quarter, we were expecting 7.3% growth And now we're at 9.2% growth expectations, which works out to $67.91 in earnings from the S&P 500 companies. That compares to $62.78 this same comparable quarter last year. Now, wait a minute. Let's look out 12 months from now. The estimates for 12 months from now would be $78.40. Okay, that's what the market is trading on now are those future expectations. Now, before we go out and party like it's 1999, which it pretty much is when it relates to valuations, we now have an S&P 500 forward PE ratio of 23%. Okay, the last time it got to 23 was in 2021. That was the party, the sugar high COVID year when we saw extreme speculation in the market. We're at that level again.
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And virtually 0% interest rates, which can provide for a lower PE ratio or a higher PE ratio environment.
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Yes, and a difference between 2021 and today is the Fed was moving into a tightening mode in 2021 about February, March, and we had a really bad year. We had a 30% drop in the market. We had the bond market get crushed. We had Silicon Valley Bank go down because of their heavy exposure. to long-term bonds, and we had a huge sell-off in the market. Last time when the forward P.E. hit 23, the NASDAQ went down about 30%. Now this time we're entering into a Fed easing cycle. We're already in a Fed easing cycle. So that does make a bit of a difference, but you can't ignore the fact that we're now hitting valuations that we haven't seen Since the year 2000, early on in 2000, I was there managing money when I saw the valuations get this high. I also witnessed a 79% sell-off. Not a 30% sell-off, a 79% sell-off in the NASDAQ. So that might sober you up a little bit on this Celebration Monday. Just remember, and it's not just forward price to earnings. You know, over the weekend, I showed where we're at in price to book value, record highs, way by far. Where we're at in price to sales, we're back to where we were in the year 2000. And price to cash flow, which really is probably the truest number of other than price-to-earnings ratio, and we're hitting record highs in price-to-cash flow. Oh, we're back to where we were almost, almost in the year 2000. So you've got to keep that in mind because if some adverse event, whatever it may be, you know, you have a very... This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GuntersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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Because there's something in the air.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. It sounds like I talked right through the music there, Barry. I didn't hear the music in my ears, but that's okay. I guess we're talking about when the music's over. You're too young to remember, but the Doors had a song, When the Music's Over. When will the music be over? Okay, I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that you cannot ignore valuations. Valuations do matter. Earnings matter a lot, okay? But the price that you pay for those earnings also matter a lot. And in the newsletter on Friday or Saturday... I showed the history of the four most well-known valuations. I did it on the S&P 500, and I did it on the NASDAQ. The S&P 500 right now is trading at a price-to-book value of 5.6%. The highest it's been is back in the year 2000 when it got to 6, 6.0, okay? And that was before the big sell-off that ensued. It began in March of 2000. I'll never forget that one. I was there. I'm glad I witnessed it, okay? That was good experience even though it wasn't any fun to go through. It's good to have that in the back of your mind. When you see the valuations get to where they are right now. Price to earnings right now on the S&P 500 is 28.5. We got to about 32 back in the year 2000. Price to cash flow right now on the S&P is 19.4. And that is exceeding now the 19.2 that we got to back in the year 2000. Okay, and lastly, price to sales, we're hitting record highs. We've never seen price to sales on the S&P 500, at least since we've been keeping records. This is now 26 years. We're hitting 3.4 on price to sales. We got to 3.1 back during the sugar high of 2021 before we had about a 30% correction in the S&P 500. So we're charting new ground in price to sales. We're hitting, we're matching all-time highs in price to cash flow. And, you know, I mean, there has been some, we have booked some profits, especially in the more aggressive markets. ends of the market all right so like our emerging growth portfolio which has had a fantastic year that's running at about 65 or 70 percent cash right now just through natural attrition as we trim as we cut back on risk As we book big profits, as we start to see technical charts start to wobble a little bit, our ultra-growth portfolio, which has also had a fantastic year, and it's had a tremendous since inception, January 1st, 1999, with no guarantees going forward, obviously. I'm thinking that's at about 40% cash right now just through natural attrition and not being able to find anything new to replace some of the big profits that we've booked here.
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Well, when you do see a pullback, it's interesting because those are the places you see the pullbacks first. So even though there are most... Our two most aggressive strategies, those happen to be in this part of the cycle, the places where you hold more cash.
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Well, and they have the biggest gains, number one, which usually means they're the richest P.E. ratios, and they're the first to go with any kind of scare in a very expensive market. I've seen these cycles many times over the years. You start to see the software stocks sell off. You start to see the semiconductor stocks sell off. But in this day and age, today's day and age, even above those as far as risk and animal spirits and this kind of thing that we talk about, You're going to see the small nuclear stocks, the Oklos, the SMRs of the world go. They've already pretty much started that cycle. The rare earth stocks, which really are not investable, in my opinion, at this point in their cycle. They're very early on hoping to find big, rich deposits of rare earth in mines. From Greenland to Alaska to Utah down to Nevada, Wyoming, etc. And, of course, South America. Those stocks are going to go. They're already selling off, right? Because that's where the real animal spirits are. That's those little tributaries that we talk about that fill up only during the highest of high tides. And when speculation is running wild and they're starting to fall. Now, the bigger stocks are holding up for now because earnings are holding up. The deal is, is these stocks that we just mentioned, they don't have earnings. These smaller new companies do not have earnings yet. And a lot of the smaller biotechs, the gene editing stocks, these are areas that are the most vulnerable that go first. And I've already seen kind of that selling in some of those areas underway. Never mind private companies in these packages that they're putting together and peddling to investors at a lot of the RIAs across America. Never mind private debt, which in my opinion is the furthest out on the risk chain. That one is out there. You're standing on a limb. It's starting to wobble. I would not want to have exposure to some of those areas of the market right now with these premiums and valuation numbers running so hot. Okay, now, getting by with less. Hiring is slowing in the U.S. There's no question about that. And why do we watch hiring? Why do we watch the jobs market? Because those will be the first indications of an economy which has been expanding since 2009, March of 2009. We're in a bull market that began in March of 2009. I can't disagree more than with the call that one analyst made a couple of weeks ago that we're in the early innings of this current bull market. How can you ever make that kind of a statement? I mean, we're in the later innings of this current bull market. There's no question about it. Now, we can remain in this eighth and ninth inning for quite some time. But we're definitely not in the early innings of this current bull market, Barry. That's just insanity to make a statement like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, you could say that this particular cycle has more legs to it, right, or whatever, but you're certainly not in the early innings.
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No, not at all. I mean, look... We put out in the March 2009 newsletter. I'm going to reprint that cover page one of these days in the news. I said a new bull market is beginning. That was after a 53% sell-off in the S&P 500. That was a pretty good market call. What has happened to the market since 2009? We've gone from 680 to 6,800. That's a tenfold bull market. I never, ever rescinded that call on that bull market. We've had a couple of sell-offs where we lightened up, including the year 08 and 09, wherein that was a bear market. And we did say that things were getting very, very dicey during that period of time. And we raised a lot of cash prior to that. and it sold off. The S&P sold off by 53%. We put out another bull market call. Well, that was the 08-09. The sugar high period of this market was in 2021, and that was another sell-off in the further nether reaches of the market okay and then in 2023 we put out on january an all-in signal that the fed was done hiking the nasdaq had bottomed and it was all in that was our second market call bullish call and then the third one was during covid actually that was before the sugar high wasn't it in 2020 march of 2020 when things were the darkest So that's pretty good. And then, of course, on April 8th of this year, that was the fourth one, four for four. We said that the tariffs are going to work. Well, here we are. We've gone from the S&P 4800 to the S&P 6800. We're up 2,000 points on the S&P 500 since that March, April 8th low in the markets. Okay, we've got a video surging on a Novartis, Neal. We see a buyout. You know, I live very close to the Cooper River. I go up the Cooper River a lot. Brookfield Asset Management is in talks to buy nuclear reactors from Santee Cooperberry. That's right, in our backyard. And Brookfield Asset Management is a cousin to Brookfield Energy Partners, BEP, which owns one half of Westinghouse. So here's another nuclear stock all of a sudden, which is BAM. B-A-M. I want to say it's a partnership. Look that up during the break, Barry.
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You got to go where you want to go and do what you want to do.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. We do have one company reporting here today. That's Keurig, Dr. Pepper. And, you know, Barry, you may not, most consumers may not realize how many brands, right, that they have accumulated today. Over the years, you don't really realize that you're involved with the Dr. Pepper product. But here we go. I was just looking at their – they have 125 different brands. It's not a very good stock, to be honest with you. It's a single-digit grower these days, high single digits, mid-single digits. But obviously, their number one brand, Dr. Pepper. 7-Up belongs to Dr. Pepper. Crush. I still like a grape crush from time to time. Canada Dry, Sunkissed, Squirt. You ever drink Squirt? That's grapefruit. Kind of a grapefruit. How about Clamato, Barry? You ever drink a nice Clamato? Clams and tomato juice. Yeah, you know, you've got to be in a certain kind of mood for that. Schweppes, Hawaiian Punch, real lemon. I've had plenty of those green bottles in my refrigerator over the years. Oh, yeah, you know that. Lemon and lime. I use a lot of lemon in my house. Both of them, yeah. Snapple, now the story on Snapple, I remember in the year 2000 when the animal spirits were really in place on the NASDAQ. Snapple was one of the hottest stocks going, and it eventually got bought up by somebody. I want to say Quaker Oats.
SPEAKER 01 :
Coca-Cola, right? Was it Coca-Cola?
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Maybe Quaker Oats. Yeah. And it was a horrible, horrible purchase. You hardly ever even see Snapple anymore. Other brands, Dr. Pepper. How about Yoo-Hoo? Those little chocolate drinks.
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Yeah.
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How about A&W Root Beer? Werner's Ginger Ale. I like that. Barrel-aged. Stewart's Root Beer. That's one of those premium brands.
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That's a pretty good one. That's a quality one.
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Cactus Cooler, which I used to fancy many years ago. Pineapple and Orange Soda. Margaritaville Margarita Mix. Penafil, which actually comes from Mexico. I've drank plenty of Penafil. Now, they made that big, one of the best stocks we ever found, that I ever found, was Green Mountain Coffee, GMCR, with the K-cup. You know, it's almost, they've got a whole, it's all Keurig K-Cups now. No more Joe DiMaggio, Mr. Coffee Maker, and this and that. They bought Green Mountain and Keurig. You know, they don't have the patent anymore on that K-Cup. But Dr. Pepper owns Green Mountain. They own Swiss Miss. That's my go-to in the mornings when it's cold. Listen to this. They own Krispy Kreme Donuts. Donut Shop Coffee, McCafe, which is the coffee they serve at McDonald's. They own Cinnabon. which, you know, in all the airports. They own Newman's Own, Caribou, which we come into contact with Caribou when we visit Minnesota. They're in the mall. And, okay, that's about it. Oh, and Mott's, Mott's Apple Juice. So those are some of the brands that this soggy stock owns. We don't own Keurig Dr. Pepper, but, you know, if you look at, It's just incredible, like Campbell's Soup, how many different brands that they own, Coca-Cola. It's one of the things.
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Yeah, it's a product. It's one of those things. It's a product we might all have on our shelves, but it's not a stock that we should have on our shelf in our portfolio. That's right.
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No. And we'll end with this, antimony. Not alimony, antimony. Perpetual Resources, let's see how it's doing today. They've got a big antimony mine up in Idaho, which they're really ramping up. P-P-T-A is the symbol. I have it on my watch list. And it's not down with the other rare earth stocks today. It is down a little. It's down 33 cents. But there's news coming out of P-P-T-A this morning. And, of course, antimony, you may not know. It's not in any of these drinks we just mentioned. Although it may get in there accidentally. You never know. You get a little dose of antimony in your Keurig Dr. Pepper. But antimony is used for the following. Military applications. It's used in armor-piercing bullets, night vision goggles, and infrared sensors. See, they want to make it sound like, oh, we need rare earth for these electric vehicles.
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Yeah, no.
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You don't need armor-piercing bullets for electric vehicles. It's used in lead-acid batteries. It's a flame retardant. It's used in paints, enamels, and glass. But here's the kicker. This probably is the number two behind weaponry. It plays a critical role in semiconductor applications and is essential in various technological fields. So the story on Perpetua today is Agnico Eagle, which is a great gold mining stock. is making a big investment in Perpetua. They're going to break ground on their Stibnite project in Idaho, which is expected to produce the only U.S. reserve of critical mineral antimony Also one of the highest grade gold producers in the U.S. And if you need a job, ATCO, little company, is building a 1,052-person dormitory lodge and office facilities with site preparations in Yellow Pine, Idaho. My son-in-law is from Rexburg, Idaho. I looked up Yellow Pine. It's north of Rexburg. It's north of Boise. It's up in the mountains. Probably a beautiful spot to hang out if you're looking for a job. They're going to have a nice dormitory there for you up there. And you can go mine in antimony every day. It should be in operation by the first quarter of 2027 to support antimony mining operations. So there you go. All of a sudden, it's not gold we're after. We're after antimony. Okay, well, we're out of time. We're getting ready to print the T-shirts for the 2026 Tour of America. I haven't lined that up yet. We're thinking Houston, Minnesota, Colorado, Pennsylvania being at the top of the list for 2026. To get four weeks of our newsletter and the app and everything that comes with it, go to GundersenCapital.com to set up an appointment with us. If you feel like you're in a bunch of soggy stocks, we'll either confirm it for you or deny it. You don't want to be in soggy. It's all about earnings growth. Call us and make an appointment with us. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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And my email is Kim at Kim Munson. That's M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And taxes are force. And I think we all agree that there are some taxes that need to be paid. But while we are way out of the proper role of government at the local, the county, the state and the federal level. And also on my ballot, I did not take a position on that. some of these fire districts and different special districts. But I'm recommending a no vote on the South Metro fire protection ballot question. They're asking for $50 million and I had not really looked at their finances on it, but I'm going to talk with somebody that I think probably has. But I got a text message from a firefighter or somebody that identified as a firefighter encouraging me to vote yes on that, saying that they had not had a tax increase for many, many years. But yet, with the assessed valuations, the higher assessed valuations, There was a hidden tax increase right there. So I felt that that was a disingenuous text. And then the other thing is, is at the bottom of the ballot question, it wants to de-tabor or de-bruce the excess revenue. What that means is, is they want to keep all of the revenue. And under Tabor, the excess revenue is above a very, not revenue, excess taxes, I should say, above a very generous formula of inflation plus population growth. Everything above that is to be returned to the taxpayer unless they ask us for it. So it's a little hidden ask, and many people don't understand what that is at the bottom of that ballot question. But I think that that is very disingenuous to want to keep all the revenue. I think that additional revenue, if that passed, should be returned to the people. And so because of that, I am recommending a no vote on that. And as you know, it's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, their freedom, their livelihood, their opportunities, or their childhoods. And force can be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, which we're living in, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites. And remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. I would say probably the top headline right now is Trump is very busy on the international stage. And from Newsmax, it says that Trump has said U.S. and China are going to come away with a deal. And so, again, the art of the deal on Donald Trump. And so stay tuned. I think that that's really important. He's trying to be a man of peace. And I like that a lot. Our word of the day is circumstances, and it's a condition or fact attending an event and having some bearing on it or a determining or modifying factor. Number two, the sum of determining factors beyond willful control. Number three, financial status or means. And we need to be able to adapt to our circumstances. And so I went to Confucius for our quote of the day because Ellen Raleigh, who immigrated from China, she's a proud American citizen. She has a book Confucius Never Said. So I went to Confucius for our quote of the day. He was born in 551 B.C., died in 479 B.C. He was a Chinese philosopher of the spring and autumn period. who traditionally considered the paragon of Chinese sages. And he said this, as the water shapes itself to the vessel that contains it, so a wise man adapts himself to circumstances. And again, that's Confucius. We've got a jam-packed show planned for you today. And on Mondays, we talk with Roger Mangan, with a State Farm agent and his great State Farm agency, about things that are really important regarding, right now we're going through an auto insurance primer. And a valued sponsor of the Kim Munson Show is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. Roger's been in business for over 50 years, taking care of his clients and providing for his family and giving back to the community. He and his team strive for excellence, and I'm honored to have them as a sponsor of the show. And I'm talking with Roger Mangan. Roger, we had started this primer on an auto insurance policy project. and talked about that a few weeks ago. What's the next subject that you want to address regarding this primer?
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you, Kim. There's probably 12 items, and we've covered six, so we have about six left, so bear with us in this radio show, but it's important, I think. We get up every morning, get in our car, turn it on, drive to work, and then don't think about much other than what's on our mind, and it's certainly not auto insurance and line item coverage. So our purpose in doing this is to have you aware of what it is you should have or do have and how it works. So what I'd like to talk about now is emergency road service. Emergency road service is a must for any car. It costs you $3 maybe every six months to buy this coverage. And it's so important and so inclusive. And it covers and pays for emergency road service for a covered car for mechanical labor up to one hour at the place of breakdown. Most people think of emergency road service as towing. And yes, towing is included, but there's way more than just towing. And towing, it has to be to the garage of nearest repair. You cannot have a breakdown in Littleton and have your favorite mechanic in Thornton on a Ford and have it towed across town. The insurance company will probably pay maybe $100 to $120 for a tow. and not even question it. Now, by the way, with State Farm, they give the agent, which is really unique, the ability to actually directly pay that tow bill. So if you had a tow last week and you paid it and came to me with a receipt, I can actually write a check out of my office and reimburse you on the spot. Wow. As long as it's reasonable. If you have that car towed from Littleton to Thornton and it's a $300 tow or $200 tow, it's probably not going to get paid. They'll pay it to the garage of nearest repair. I did have a situation years ago where a Porsche broke down that I had insured in Goodland, Kansas.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's my hometown. Yeah, the hometown of Jim. And that's the thing is people of my hometown, their car either broke down or they got caught in a snowstorm there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Well, this Porsche had to be towed back to Denver. And this is back in probably 85 or somewhere in there, 1985 ish. And the toll bill was $400 back in those days. That's a lot. Yeah, enormous. So the question is, is State Farm going to pay that toll bill? Well, there was no Porsche dealership or repair garage between Goodland, Texas and Denver. Goodland, Kansas. Yeah, I'm sorry, Goodland, Kansas. So we paid that toll bill. Normally, we wouldn't do that. Here's an example. If you broke down in Vail and you had a typical American car, Ford, Chevy, whatever, and it had to be towed between Vail and Denver, there are several repair stations, mechanics that can repair your car. So you get a $400 tow bill from Vail to Denver, you're probably only going to get $120 against that tow bill. Okay. So garage veneers repair. Okay. And then towing the car out of a, if it's stuck on a public road, and here's what happens. We get these four-wheelers who go back into the booties, and they get stuck, and they want their towing coverage to tow them out. It might take two tow trucks and four hours to move the car to a public road. You're only going to get the service if your car needs to be towed. towed on a road that is maintained by the county okay can't be a dirt trail off into the boonies or this emergency road service also covers delivery of gas oil battery change of a tire but not the cost of such item In other words, if you blow a tire and we have to repair that tire, put the spare on because you can't. We'll do that service, but we're not going to repair or pay for the cost of the tire or the cost of gasoline. But the trip to bring the gasoline to you, we will pay for it. And this is an interesting one. Locksmith's labor for up to one hour to unlock a covered car if the key is lost, stolen, or locked inside the car. Most people don't know that, and you should know that. So if it happens to you, pay the bill, come to Roger, and he'll reimburse you, okay?
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. So, well, actually, we're out of time on this particular issue. This is really informative. Can people get emergency? They don't get it automatically. They have to ask for it?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I see 99% of the policies we write happen unless you have AAA and you don't want us to do it. AAA is going to cost you maybe $100 a year. This is costing you $3 every six months, or let's say less than $10 a year. So it's your choice, AAA, State Farm. Most companies offer this. We're not virtuous. We're not the only company that offers this, but I'm the only one explaining it to all these companies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which is very virtuous, I think. Yeah. So what's that phone number for people to reach you for a complimentary appointment? 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com and sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're there. My voters guide is is you can download that. There's a banner at the top of the Web site, a red banner. Just click on that. Put in your name, put in your email and we will send you a link. to the analysis that we did regarding the ballot questions. And it's important to be an informed voter, not an influenced voter. And that's why there's some great resources out there. And Brandon Wark is on the line with me, and he is a wonderful resource for freedom. He is the founder of Free State Colorado. Brandon Wark, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, good morning, Kim. Thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And that website is freestatecolorado.com. And Brandon, you had highlighted or maybe low-lighted something that's very important for people to understand regarding there's only two statewide issues on the ballot. That's Proposition LL and Proposition MM. And Proposition LL is referring back to Proposition FF. It's so funny when we're trying to explain all this. But that was passed by the people of Colorado in... 2022, under the moniker of Healthy School Meals for All Children. And they said that they were going to raise $107 million. They actually raised $12 million more. And that is to be returned back to us, the taxpayers. But they're asking to keep all that money, Brandon.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Kim, exactly. You know, as we see so often with these government programs, they don't work out as intended. So not only is the program set up under FF running out of money, but they're collecting more money, and they have to refund it to the taxpayers under TABOR, our Taxpayers Bill of Rights, one of the great benefits of that part of our Constitution. But of course, because they're exceeding the money, they're spending more money than they're bringing in, They're asking the voters to retain that money. So that's what Proposition LL is about, is keeping money, quote-unquote, previously collected. So a lot of people don't think this is a tax increase, but it actually is a tax increase. According to the Blue Book, according to the legislative website, there's 200,000 Coloradans who are going to be paying more taxes if Proposition LL passes. This is millions of dollars taken out of our economy, meaning that Coloradans will have less money to invest in our communities and our businesses. And, of course, as most people probably would expect, LL also allows for unlimited tax collection, eliminating the Tabor limit for revenue collected through this scheme. So it's a big tax increase and definitely encourage people to vote no. But like you know, Kim, there's always more to the story.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And a breakdown proposition M for us as well, Brandon Wark.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Proposition MM is a little bit more honest in the ballot title and the language there. It's a total tax increase, and it's going to raise taxes on individuals making over $300,000 a year. We're talking about a $95 million tax increase, and that's every year. So during the special session this year, our state legislature knew what was happening with the SNAP food stamps. Of course, that's one of the big headlines right now. And they passed a bill, Senate Bill 25B-003. Don't need to get into all those details. But they kind of modified what they were doing with this Healthy School Meals for All program. Not only is it going to be used for school children to provide every school child in Colorado a lunch paid for by taxpayers, even if they don't need it necessarily. But they want to expand this program to SNAP food stamps, to the SNAP EBT benefits there. So they saw what was happening with the One Big Beautiful Bill Act and other programs at the federal level. So basically, the proposition is just a way for them to take money out of the productive sector of the economy. It's a wealth redistribution scheme to steal money from higher income earners and give it to school kids and those receiving food stamps.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that's what they say, and eventually there probably will be some money that we'll get to children's meals and food stamps. But what I've learned, Brandon Wark, is I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and in this case, interested parties. They... They pony up to the trough to take money that goes by first. And you had mentioned, you posted something just recently about who is behind trying to drum up support for Proposition LL and Proposition MM, which you and I are both strong nose on. Who's behind it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no, that's a great point, Kim. We always got to look for the money, right? We always got to see who's spending big money behind these issues. And that tells us the rest of the story, tells us who these interested parties are. And so I went on the Secretary of State website. Every year at freestatecolorado.com, I write a ballot guide. And I always want to answer that question. Who's behind this? Where's the money coming from? And I found two organizations. There's two organizations registered with the Secretary of State of Colorado to support or who are in favor of both of these propositions. And unfortunately, Kim, there's none opposed. There's none of us pro-liberty individuals across Colorado who created an organization this year to oppose these ballot measures, unfortunately, but that's how it goes. But the two in favor, one of them is Keep Kids Fed Colorado. And of course, what a wonderful name, Keep Kids Fed Colorado. Who doesn't want that? But a lot of people don't know who this group is. It's a new issue committee basically created by a nonprofit called Hunger Free Colorado. It's a statewide nonprofit. They've already contributed over a quarter of a million dollars in support of Proposition LL and MM. It's some of those ads you might be seeing on streaming services, on TV, maybe in the mail. I've seen some people door knocking in my neck of the woods up here. supporting this. So Hunger Free Colorado, for people who don't know, is a big nonprofit, and it's got some great support from private organizations, from some businesses. But what people don't know is Hunger Free Colorado has also received nearly $2.5 million from taxpayers this fiscal year alone. It's fiscal year 2025. I found this in TOPS, the Transparency Online Project. Just typed in Hunger Free Colorado, because that was my first question. Has this organization received any taxpayer money? And they have $2.3 million. And, of course, Kim, we know money is fungible. So you have to ask, hey, is this $2.3 million they're getting to this nonprofit, is some of that money going towards this electioneering effort to try and convince voters to support an even further tax increase to the tune of a quarter of a million dollars? And that's part of the story that people need to know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and this is something that I have learned over the years now. We used to think as nonprofits, charities, that they were in the business of helping people. And granted, there may be some help that occurs. But just think, if our taxes were lower and we had more money in our pocket, then we could make the choice on which nonprofits... And I have that in air quotes because clearly... They're making money. They just don't have to pay taxes on it. But there's something wrong with these government grants. We've got to stop those programs. But then connecting that dot that they are also out there promoting political agendas that they benefit from. It makes it it should be a hard no on that. But there's also another organization, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yes, Kevin. This is a big one. A lot of people haven't heard of them, but they are a very powerful organization behind the scenes. And it's called Community Change Action. Community Change Action is a Washington, D.C.-based group. And according to Influence Watch, I did my research here. Everything's linked at freestatecolorado.com where people can dig in. But this is one of the groups that helped organize those No King protests. They support illegal immigration programs all across the country on these issues, as well as a variety of social welfare programs. So Community Change Action, this big Washington, D.C., big money group, it's also tied to the Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition, CIRC, the Working Families Party, the Tides Foundation, George Soros' Open Society Foundations, and even the Pritzker Foundation. So these are the types of people, these are the types of organizations that is basically, you know, we hear that term dark money, but we see at least $13,000, according to Tracer, the Colorado Secretary of State website, of this money coming from Washington, D.C. into Colorado to influence our elections here. So you see the policies that these organizations promote. We see kind of the agenda they have for the rest of the country. And that should pause everybody to say, hey, listen, out-of-state money is spending a lot here in Colorado to try and get these ballot measures passed. What's the agenda here? What are they trying to do? And that should really be a red flag for people.
SPEAKER 04 :
So Brandon Wark, freestatecolorado.com, this Proposition LL and Proposition MM, first and foremost, the title of it is, they're really, it's a marketing thing, and that is healthy school meals for all children. Who doesn't want that? But it's not the proper role of the state to be providing that. But the other thing is both Proposition LL and Proposition MM are based on envy and the fact that they say, oh, we're going to soak the rich people, and that is people that are making $300,000 or more. But what happens, and that's just how the income tax was passed as an amendment to the Constitution, is they said, oh, it's only going to be on your neighbor, not on you, and it's only going to be a limited amount. But government programs seem to never go away, and they seem to never have enough money. And so if you think that you're soaking the rich by voting for this, what's going to happen is, I think, my crystal ball is, is that The program becomes so expensive that they'll have to look for more revenue. And ultimately, I think everyone, every taxpayer will probably be tapped to pay for this. What do you think about that? I guess my point is anything based on envy and anything that treats one individual differently from another, that's antithetical to the American idea. Just on principle, I think we need to vote no on this.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's such a great point, Kim, and I think that's so important because we've got to see the craftiness, the craftiness, the cleverness of these legislators in our state government because both these ballot measures, right, they're referred to the people by our state government, by Democrat legislators, frankly, who kind of have to ask those questions to say, okay, we want a tax increase. We want to pay for these programs. who are the voters going to support taking money from? So the $300,000 amount has got to be so arbitrary, in my opinion, for them to say, okay, most of the people of Colorado think that's a lot of money, and sure, it is a lot of money. So let's say this tax increase is only going to apply to them. And, you know, it's kind of this tactic that our legislators use to talk to the average voter, the average taxpayer, and say, hey, listen, these people have enough money. They have too much money. You don't have enough. Let's let them pay for your school lunches. But, of course, if they did this program, if they put on the ballot to say everybody's taxes increased, every single color added, then voters are going to say no. So these legislators figured out kind of that line, right, to say, let's just say $300,000 or more. Let's say this amount, this amount. But like you said, Kim, it doesn't end there. It always continues on. And when Proposition FF passed three years ago, It was only going to collect $100 million. It was only going to do this. It was only going to do that. And here they are coming back to the taxpayers saying, no, we need more money. We need to take more. We need to do more. And it's only a little bit more. It's only a little bit more. And then before you know it, they're taking it all.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and the other thing is, is what I've seen, though, is these PBIs, they end up taking their cut first. So these nonprofits that are in this business, they make sure that they're paid before there's any free school lunch for children. And typically... Well, just for example, as you said, this Hunger Free Colorado has received $2.5 million in money from the people of Colorado. You know, another interesting thing would be is to find out what their CEO, what that salary is. I think that's some homework for you and I. I'm going to make a note on that, okay? Unless you know that. Great.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't, but that is a great question, Kim, definitely. I think we really need to have a hard look at any of these organizations that are receiving tax money, these nonprofits that are getting tax money, and then use that money for election purposes. In my opinion, that's a blatant violation of the public trust, and, you know, I don't think it's right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't either. Now, very quickly, Brandon, you are running for Greeley City Council, so just tell us just a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Kim, I really appreciate that. I've been out door knocking every single day talking to people in the community. It's Brandon Wark for Greeley City Council here. I'm in Ward 2, so that's the southeast corner of the city up here by the University of the Greeley Mall. If you see my name on the ballot, I'd really appreciate your vote. For me, it's all about transparency. There's so much going on with our local government here in Greeley where they're making a lot of big decisions behind closed doors. In my opinion, they're violating the public trust by not asking taxpayers to take out a billion dollars worth of debt. Instead, they're using certificates of participation so they don't have to ask the voters as required by our Taxpayers Bill of Rights. Additionally, affordability. We all know, Kim, that's the biggest issue, not just in Greeley, but in the state of Colorado. We have to find ways to save us money.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, and how can people get more information about your campaign?
SPEAKER 08 :
ElectBrandonWark.com. ElectBrandonWark, and that's W-A-R-K-A. If you Google my name, Brandon Wark, my website for my election will be the first thing that comes up.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Brandon, thanks so much, and thank you for the great work that you do at freestatecolorado.com.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you so much, Kim. Take care.
SPEAKER 04 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you're there, click on that red banner at the top of the page and you can download our voters guide regarding the two statewide issues and also these issues that these debt issues that are on the Denver ballot. And then also there's a resource for county clerks if you want to reach out to them regarding issues. information on any candidates and how to contact them. So be sure and check that out. Financial freedom starts with the right guide and Mint Financial Strategies is here to help. As an independent firm with over 25 years of experience and the credentials of an accredited investment fiduciary, they offer advice that's focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms. with clarity, confidence, and control. Call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. Mint Financial Strategies is your path to independent financial confidence. And I'm pleased to have on the line with me Jason Bailey. He is the founder of an organization, Citizens for No New Debt. Jason Bailey, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hello, Kim. Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here. I'm so glad to be talking after Brandon Ward. He is one of my heroes as well. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Definitely. And the federal debt makes the headlines all the time. And there's a debt clock about how much each of us owe. But... What we don't realize is we are encumbering ourselves at the local, the county, the state level with these special districts, with these fire districts. And it seems that the government, they have this insatiable appetite for taxes. And it's time that we say no. And that's why you founded Citizens for No New Debt.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct. Yeah. You know, the amount of debt at all these different layers and levels, you know, layers of debt is everywhere. And, you know, one difference, I guess, between federal debt and so much of this local debt is so much of this local that the voters are saying, oh, yeah, sure. Give us more debt. um so citizens for no new debt we're here to organize to push back on that debt you know tabor laws is as we all know says hey you know in colorado you need to take that new debt request to the voters here's the problem kim we're not we're not winning the vote so citizens for no new debt we're that missing piece of the puzzle we're going to fill in um and we'll start winning at the ballot box. We may win this November. Of course, right now we're focused on the city of Denver. The city of Denver wants $950 million in new debt. They divided it up into those five different categories, 2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, 2E, all on the Denver ballot. And so we're focused on that right now. And we may win. It's going to be close, actually, and we'll see. But even if we don't win, I hope we do, of course, but if we don't, We rally the next day. We build this organization up to be 100 times as big. And we start winning at the ballot box. And it's that missing piece of the puzzle for the Tabor law. And once we start winning at the ballot box, then that's going to snowball. And we'll get that understanding out there that government debt is a counterproductive waste of valuable money.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, what I have found, Jason Bailey, is us on the freedom side, people love their freedom, but it's not like it's an interested party that's going to benefit. So we typically are rubbing nickels together as we are fighting some of these big ballot questions, whereas with these five ballot questions with Denver, Mike Johnston is out there In support of it, one has to question whether or not a taxpayer's money is being used to encourage people to vote for taxes, which, as Brandon said in the previous segment, that money is fungible. But here you've got these politicians that are out there stumping for higher and higher taxes and taking more money out of our pocket. There's something... As Brandon referred to it, it really goes against the public trust.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, it really does. I mean, you know, the mayor of the city is supposed to be running the city and making sure our roads are in good condition and all of that stuff that a mayor should be doing. And technically, legally, the city employees are not supposed to use any city time campaigning for a ballot measure. So, I mean, I don't know how Mayor Johnson is going to say, well, I'm not using city time considering it seems to be half of the time he's awake, he's campaigning for this new debt. Furthermore, on top of that... As Brandon was talking about, we are definitely using public tax money. They are definitely using public tax money to campaign and to finance that vibrant Denver Bond campaign. These organizations that gave $50,000 each, Denver Botanic Gardens, Denver Museum of Art, art and on and on and you know i like a lot of these organizations no doubt about it but uh the the uh the fact that they're receiving tax money you know science and cultural facility money and lodging tax and other uh taxes and then they're giving uh fifty thousand dollars to the campaign i don't like that one bit and then besides that it's actually illegal in colorado to use public tax money on ballot measures for advocating for yes or no vote so none of it makes any sense and um It's not fair, and what they're doing is wasting our tax money to go after more debt.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and you really brought this to my attention after we first met, that people don't really think that much about the payback, but the investment bankers that are selling these bonds, they... they will be making, well, I guess it's the bond holders, but there's also the fees that go to the investment bankers. The total payback, the maximum payback that they're quoting, if you add up all five of these measures, is over double 950 million dollars it's one point almost 1.9 billion dollars in payback and that's 1.9 billion dollars that could be in individuals and businesses pockets so that they could go out and create more businesses and more jobs and instead this stifles that and ultimately this business climate you will start to see producers and innovators and creators move because of onerous taxes and rules and regulations. Jason Bailey.
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Oh, without a doubt. And, you know, these investment bankers, I don't blame them as much as I blame the politicians. The investment bankers are sitting on the other side of the table from the politicians. It would be the politicians, it would be their job to say no to the investment bankers and that tremendous amount of interest and fees and all of that. But they don't. You know, it's okay to hold two thoughts at the same time. If you're on the side of the table as the investment banker, it makes sense. You're going to be making the money. And if you're on the other side of the table and you're representing our government, it makes no sense whatsoever. It would be our government's job to say, no, thank you, but they don't. So I do consider this debt to be an unholy alliance between our political system and our financial system. And once again, it's okay to hold two thoughts and be able to look at the issue from both sides of that table. But it's an ideology by the city of Denver to keep taxes up at all times and to always push for more tax money. And if we need to structure a bond deal where we're paying up to twice as much, and that's what I always say with debt, Kim, we're paying on average twice as much every time we build that road. or we build that bridge. And of course this makes no sense, you know, but so they, they'll structure these, these debt packages so that, uh, they, they don't have to lower taxes. Of course, the city of Denver, they always want more tax and they're never going to let up. And this is an ideology they have. So their thinking is, well, even if the citizens need to pay twice as much to build a road, that's just fine because otherwise we'd have to lower taxes. I mean, that's just messed up, you know? Um, and, uh, So we've got to defeat this debt, and we're here to get it done.
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Okay, I'm talking with Jason Bailey with Citizens for No New Debt, and we're talking about this huge debt package that is broken out into five different ballot questions on Denverites' ballots. And we need to start to say no. As Jason had indicated, we wring our hands about the federal debt, but then we say yes at the local level. And part of it is the marketing on all of it as well. And so we're going to continue the discussion with Jason Bailey. when we come back but a couple of things that i wanted to mention is the usmc memorial foundation will be hosting an event on saturday the 8th right before november 8th right before veterans day for in honor of veterans day and you can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org And then also the other nonprofit that I highlight on a regular basis, they're nonpartisan, they're nonpolitical, is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. And they're focused on honoring our Medal of Honor recipients and telling their stories and also educational programs for K through 12 and also for educators. based around these principles that the center focuses on, and that is honor, integrity, and patriotism. So another great organization to support is the Center for American Values, and that website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And then the Fed is meeting this week. So on, let's see, Thursday, we'll talk with Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages about what happened at that Fed meeting and what is happening to mortgage rates.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And are you craving some real New York style pizza and pasta? Well, Little Richie's and Parker and Golden have you covered. Authentic New York flavor with Colorado roots. So from daily specials and weekday lunch deals to a happy hour worth planning around, they are your neighborhood favorite and they're always serving up something worth stopping for. and they have the best calzones I've ever had in my life. So be sure and check out Little Richie's in Parker and in Golden. We are talking with Jason Bailey. He is the founder of Citizens for No New Debt. And we're talking about these five ballot questions that are on the Denver ballot, which the ask is for just a little under $1 billion, if you put all five of those questions together, but the payback is $1.9 billion. That's money that will be taken out of the economy, the free economy, and put into government. And what's interesting, Jason Bailey, is first of all, I think that the tax questions or the ballot questions are very disingenuous because it begins with without imposing any new tax. So talk to me about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Without any new taxes. You know, talk about, you know, politicians gaslighting the voters. It's impossible, as you're mentioning, to repay debt without twice as much tax money. It just, you know, to talk about no new taxes, it makes no sense at all. And everyone knows if your property tax goes down. If you don't approve this debt and if you do approve the debt, the property tax does not go down. That is a new tax. You know, if you get a check in the mail, that's money in the mail. And, you know, not paying property taxes like a check in the mail. So it's it's just it's deception. There's just no way around that, you know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it really is. And so what they're asking to do is to extend a debt that the Denver voters had approved that's a scale to be paid off. So when you pay off your car and that payment goes away, you have money in your pocket. So when you pay off this property tax and that tax goes away, you have more money in your pocket. So it's dishonest and disingenuous the way they have... couched this ballot question. And I would say just because of that, if I can't trust you to be honest with me about the question, how can I trust you with just south of $1 billion in new debt?
SPEAKER 09 :
yeah absolutely and i see the main difference as uh you know an individual has a principle of course i want to pay less money so when that car is paid off of course i don't want to go to the bank uh you know the day before it's paid off and refinance it of course if i do not need to do that i don't want to do that it's just common sense it's basic financial common sense On the other hand, our government does not have that principle of basic financial common sense, especially the city of Denver that I know so well. They absolutely want to have as much debt as possible. So if that car is about to be paid off, get to the bank and get that thing refinanced. Here's the thing. The city of Denver has been here for 165 years. We should operate nowhere near debt. get rid of all of that. And we're going to all have more money. We're going to pay less in tax. Both of these things are going to occur because tax money and the public budget are the exact same thing. Whether you're talking to the left or the right, it's the same thing. It's valuable money. And why would you waste it? But the city of Denver, they always want more tax. And so they're not able to let up. You know, what Brandon was talking about on the Colorado The LL and MM, and there's no one opposing it. That's a problem. And so, you know, Citizens for No New Debt, we are here to organize and oppose these debt requests. This organizing is such a key element. And, you know... a simile that i use are these gun organizations protecting gun rights here in colorado if ll and mm would have been gun rights issues on that ballot the gun groups and gun organizations would have been you know organizing and pushing back on that but we don't have that with debt so uh we need to we need to create that and that's what this organization is all about and um You know, these gun rights groups keep, you know, our gun rights here in Colorado going, you know, and it's a constant battle. And this issue with debt is going to be a constant battle as well. And we're here to push back on that debt, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so on that, financial resources are very helpful. And so Citizens for No New Debt, nonewdebt.org is your website, and people can contribute to helping you there, yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. And we're going to build this organization the same way the gun rights groups do with members. So if you're listening, if you can join our organization with membership, whatever level that you're able to do, it is great. But we're going to build this up with thousands of members. And every election cycle, we'll have dozens of opportunities to push back at the ballot box on debt because these debt requests are all over the place every election cycle. And we need to turn that tide. And, you know, table laws that say, hey, you need to take debt to the voters, they really are not holding water if we're losing the vote. So, you know, we're here to win that vote. And thank you so much for everything you do, Kim. I love being on your show. Your conversational style is amazing. And I get to talk on the same day as Brandon Wark. You've made my day, Kim. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'm glad that that is the case. But taxes, really, our country was founded on the fact that people were very frustrated with overtaxation and taxation without representation. And so at some point in time, we'll have to talk about these certificates of participation. Oh, yeah. Because... That is really taxation without representation, encumbering the people for debt that they will have to pay off, but they don't really have a voice on that. And all that's antithetical to the American idea, Jason Bailey.
SPEAKER 09 :
And those lease purchase agreements that, you know, number one, what you're talking about, number two, there's such a ripoff in addition to no representation. You put those two factors together and they should be illegal. We could make them illegal with the initiative at the Colorado ballot box. We could if we can get enough financing and that's what we will do, you know.
SPEAKER 04 :
well and i will let me make a a plug for the colorado union of taxpayers uh we have the organization we also have the foundation side which is educational and people can join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.org and one of the things we we're focused on really four things one is standing up for the taxpayer which is all of us number two that in protecting Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayer's Bill of Rights, property rights, and parental rights. And let me just give a shout out to our team. And that team is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corrie Onazorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. This is all volunteers that are doing amazing work to stand up for the taxpayer. On the freedom side, we're not really an interested party. But what we do, what you do, is ultimately what we do is we work to save the taxpayers, the people of Colorado, millions and millions of dollars. And we've had some success.
SPEAKER 09 :
and even billions, you know, um, and your group is what an amazing group, Colorado union of taxpayers. And, um, you know, it's impossible to get debt repaid without twice as much tax money. The two are, uh, completely connected in every way. And I, uh, Kim, I would love to see one more principle with Colorado Union of Taxpayers. We will win at the ballot box on these debt requests.
SPEAKER 04 :
Meaning win is defeating them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Defeating the debt, yeah. We'll win the vote and defeat that debt. And that's what Citizens for No New Debt is here to do. And I appreciate all of your help on this cause, Kim. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, absolutely. And so Citizens for No New Debt. And one other thing, and we have just a minute left, is what happened is Mike Johnston and company went around to all these organizations and said, hey, if this passes, what do you want? We're going to give you some money. So now you have all these people. that are connected to government with government grants or whatever that are out there stumping for you to pay, you Denverites, to pay more in debt. And actually, it's going to affect all of us. If we go in and do any kind of business in Denver, I go into Denver less and less because it's become dirty and dangerous and dysfunctional. That's why we don't need to give them any more money. Jason Bailey, as always, thank you so much. And what is your website?
SPEAKER 09 :
Uh, uh, citizens for no new debt.org or RG. And, please take a look there and, um, appreciate it very much. And yeah, you know, uh, you know, these, these organizations that are contributing to this fire and Deborah bond, they're not only are they receiving grants, but they're also receiving tax money as well. You know, it's just, it's, it's, it's actually illegal, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, Jason Bailey, thank you so much. And vote no on all of the, I have it in air quotes, vibrant Denver ballot questions. That's 2A through 2E. Jason, thanks so much. Have a great day.
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You too. Be well. Bye-bye.
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And another great hour planned for you. So fasten your seatbelts. Check out my website, which is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. While you're there at the very top on the red banner, click on that. That is our voters guide. It's very extensive to help you on the statewide issues as well as the five Denver questions. And also, I included in there county clerk contact information so you can contact them regarding candidates or things that are on your ballot, as well as some recommendations on questions to ask candidates for city council and mayor. And you can get their contact information by reaching out to your city clerk. And then a good resource for school board candidates is transformcolorado.org. That's transformcolorado.org. It's important that you are an informed voter, not an influenced voter. Those PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties want you just to be influenced by the different ads that you see on social media, on television. But we really break down what you're really voting on. And I give you a recommendation. In this case, it's no on all of them. And that is based on principles. So be sure and check that out so that you're an informed voter. You know what you're really voting on. And I make a recommendation first. And then hopefully that will be of help to you as you're completing your ballot. Our word of the day is circumstances. And it's C-I-R-C-U-M-S-T-A-N-C-E-S. And it could be a condition or fact attending an event or having some bearing on it, a determining or modifying factor. or the sum of determining factors beyond willful control or financial status or means. And so circumstances, it's a great quote. I have that in our quote of the day from Confucius, who was born in 551 B.C., died in 479 B.C., and he was a Chinese philosopher of the spring and autumn period, and he's traditionally considered the paragon of Chinese sages. And I chose Confucius because we'll be talking with Helen Raleigh as our featured guest in this show. And she immigrated from China, proud American citizen. But this is what Confucius said. He said, as the water shapes itself to the vessel that contains it. So a wise man adapts himself to circumstances. So, again, that is Confucius. And on the line with us is Jody Henze. You know her. She has meant financial strategies and helps people with their economic freedom. Jody Henze, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Glad to be here. It's good to have you. And I noticed on your website, one of the things that you focus on is helping people understand today's financial environment. So is today's financial environment different than, say, your grandpa and your grandma?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, absolutely. I think one of the things that is different today is the amount of information that we have access to, which can make things very confusing. And so, you know, we have to navigate that. And it's hard to navigate that because there's a lot of bias and noise in the information that we are receiving. And so we have to be able to decipher that on our own, which is much different than previous generations.
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So it can seem daunting. It's confusing. And that's where you come in to help people try to get to clarity on their finances. Because we talk a lot about the federal government and government and taxes or whatever. But on the micro level, what is happening to people on their own finances is really one of the most important things.
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Yeah, I think one of the things that we do at Mint is one of our core values is information sharing. In fact, the word Mint is an acronym for our values, and the I is that information sharing piece. And so we do a lot of educational events, and that's what they are. They are educational events to help clients navigate through all of this chaos. And so we want to make sure that we have informed investors, just like you want to make sure that people are informed voters to help understand all of this. And one of the compliments that I get all the time from my clients is you make it so easy to understand. And so I take that very seriously because this stuff is complicated.
SPEAKER 04 :
So with a new client, I guess, well, a couple of things. I know that if people can get started with you early in their life, that that's a great thing. But what about people that are close to retirement? Can you still help them?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely. I think the biggest thing that we hear when people are coming in a little bit later in life is we wish we would have met with you 20 years ago. But it's never too late to get started. The biggest thing that we see is lack of any type of financial planning or lack of any type of strategy. So that's where we suggest everybody start. And that's going to bring a lot of that clarity that you just mentioned. Am I on track? If I'm not on track, what do I need to be doing? And then when you are in situations like we're in right now and the financial environment is hard to kind of navigate with a shutdown and we don't know what's all going on, having that strategy helps people stay disciplined and stick to the plan as opposed to making those emotional or knee-jerk reactions.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we talked about I've talked about it on the ballot regarding influence voters, passion. So I think that many times these PBIs try to speak to a passion and emotion. But typically you don't make great decisions with passion and emotion. It's important you have passion, emotion in your life. But for those really hard decisions, you need to. Do exactly what you're saying is have strategy, have discipline, understand what your goals are. And then the passion and emotion, it'll prevent you from making those rash decisions, I think, Jodi.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely. Investing is counterintuitive. You know, when your fear sets in, you tend to do the exact opposite of what you should be doing, which is staying disciplined. And when things get exciting, your greed tend to steps in and then you tend to invest when the markets are at all time highs. And so, you know, those emotions will, again, tell you to do the exact opposite of what you should be doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that is so difficult to be counterintuitive to that. So what's the process, Jody Henze, for people to schedule a call or meeting with you?
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The best way is to go out to our website. There's a scheduling link right out there, which is mintfs.com. That's M-I-N-T-F as in Frank, S as in Sam.com. Or you can email me, which is Jody at mintfs.com. Or you can email me or call me or text, which is 303-285-3080. Again, that's 303-285-3080.
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Okay. Well, Jody and Jody Henze, it's important that people in their lives work with people that they can trust, that they work with people that strive for excellence. And that is why we are so pleased to have you as a sponsor of the show, because that's exactly who you and Mint Financial Strategies is. And one more time, what is that website? MintFS.com. That's MintFS for FinancialStrategies.com. Jody Henze, thanks so much. We'll talk to you in a couple of weeks. Have a great day. You too, Kim.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And I do have our voters guide at on my Web site. Just click on the red banner on the top. Put in your name and your email and we will send you over a link to the website. We want you to be an informed voter, not an influenced voter. And you have a responsibility to know what's on the ballot, to really think about it and reflect upon those things. And I hope that my voter's guide will be a good tool for you as you are doing that. I wanted to mention Veterans Day is right around the corner, November 11th. And the USMC Memorial Foundation will be hosting an event out at the Marine Memorial on the 8th of November, Saturday. And you can get more information about that by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And I am honored to support the USMC Memorial Foundation here at the Kim Munson Show. please have on the line with me helen raleigh she is an american entrepreneur writer and speaker she's a senior contributor at the federal federalist and her writings appear in other national media as well including the wall street journal and fox news she is the author of several books including confucius never said and backlash how communist china's aggression has backfired her latest book is not outsiders asian americans political activism from the 19th century to today you can follow her on twitter or x i guess it is at h raleigh speaks and that's spelled r-a-l-e-i-g-h so h raleigh speaks and welcome helen raleigh good morning kim uh you have written a very important piece published at oh people can also follow you on substack i wanted to mention that as well how can they follow you on substack
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They can either search under my name or my Substack newsletter is called Confucius Never Said, which is the same title as my first book. So they can either search my name or search the title of the newsletter, Confucius Never Said.
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Perfect. Okay. You have published a very, I think, a very important piece at The Federalist, and this is regarding a leftist smear campaign in a university, Northern Michigan University, which then caused a very strong candidate to be bypassed. So set this up for us, Helen Raleigh.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. So Northern Michigan University was searching for a president because their old, their existing president left for another job. And they narrowed down to four top candidates. One of the candidates is currently the dean of business school, College of Business at the University of Wyoming. And he's a very strong candidate. He's the first generation, and he grew up in rural Michigan. He's the first generation in his family to go to college. And he got his Ph.D. at George Mason University in economics, which is one of the nation's top economics programs. I have a friend there. So it's a highly credible program. accredited program. And then he became the youngest business dean in 2016. So he has served at the Northern Dakota University. And then he moved down to become the dean of the College of Business at the University of Wyoming. So we just look at his credentials. He's well qualified for this job. Because he's an economist, he wrote papers, and some of the leftists... And he's a conservative, by the way. So he's more like an Austrian school of economists. And one of the... activist in the Michigan community that dug out a paper that Scott Buehler, which is this thing Dr. Scott Buehler wrote more than 20 years ago and selectively quoted the passages basically accusing Dr. Buehler of discriminating against the women and first generation of students, college students, minorities. And the campaign was very successful and he eventually bypassed this job.
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Okay, so this was very selective. This was a piece that he had written, as you mentioned, 20 years ago, and it was titled Behavioral Economics and Perverse Effects of the Welfare State. And so, as you mentioned, the leftist radical activists, and this is where they battle, is they come in and... In a way, you could see how they could possibly be silencing voices, because if Professor Buehler had thought 20 years ago that what he said might cause him to be bypassed for a promotion, people sometimes could start to make a decision on not to speak the truth. And it's another type of censorship, and we have to be strong. We have to continue to speak truth to this. I think it'll all work out well for him. But tell us a little bit about this piece, because I think it's a very powerful piece, Behavioral Economics and Perverse Effects of the Welfare State.
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Right. So let me just set like a stage for behavioral finance. Behavioral finance was a relatively new, newer, not that you got a new, it's been around for several decades. It's relatively newer schools of thought of like a branch, sub-branch of economics. It's basically studying about how human behaviors influence our economics-related decisions. And based on this school of thought, none of us is 100% purely rational and rational and self-controlled when we make decisions. Some of us are better than others, but all of our decisions are influenced by our psychological bias. His paper particularly studies how welfare programs, even though their intentions were good, they're designed to help people in distressful situations. But because people are in distressful situations, such as poverty, sometimes, more often than not, I should say, welfare programs are designed to help actually end up exacerbating people's bad tendencies to make poor choices that they think in the short term could benefit them, but in the long term, trap them in a desperate situation. For example, he, in his paper, He mentioned that he gave many examples. One example is the financial assistance for single mothers, basically for young moms who were not married and got pregnant. And he basically used the example to say, hey, if there's no financial assistance for single mothers, you know, young women maybe will be more cautious when they engage in sexual, you know, behaviors. And just knowing that, you know, they may still want to have a career. They may want to have other things. They don't want to be tied down by our family. So they make a different choice. But when there is financial and the government offers financial and substantial really the intent was to help single mothers to raise their child, make sure the child has enough food and security etc but the existence of the financial assistance may convince some young women to decide oh there's really because this external uh support financial support then the cost of you know having a not being married have a child raising a child alone is low for the short term but in the long term this of having a child without getting married and living off of welfare could end up trapping young women in long-term poverty. I'm not saying this happens to everybody. I mean, some young women, you know, some... courageous and the brave, you know, young single mothers who still managed to achieve great things in life and raising a great child. You know, Dr. Ben Carson was raised by a single mom. I have friends who are raised by a single mom. So this is not a discrimination against a single mom or moral judgment against a single mom. His paper is purely from financial and the behavior point to see how government assistance in certain circumstances ends up helping people making wrong decisions that will trap them, have long-term consequences. So that's kind of the example he mentioned in his paper.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. While you're there, click on the red banner at the top and download our voters guide, which we hope will be a good tool for you as you are talking with others about these issues and completing your ballot. We want you to be an informed voter, not an influenced voter. And you have a duty, a civic duty, to understand these issues and to really contemplate them. And so we hope that that will be helpful for you. Regarding the school board candidates, a great resource is transformcolorado.org. They sent out a survey with key questions. And if the candidate did not respond to those and answer those questions, that could be probably a pretty good sign that maybe you don't want to vote for them because they're very important issues. I'm talking with Helen Raleigh. She is an American entrepreneur, writer, and speaker, and she's a senior contributor at The Federalist, and she's in other publications as well. You can find her at Confucius Never Said at Substack, and then also she regularly writes at The Federalist, which we're talking about this piece today. regarding a leftist smear campaign at Northern Michigan University bypasses this very strong candidate for president. And you hit on this, Helen Roller, you said, well, welfare programs are designed to help. They can unintentionally worsen decision-making. And that's really one of the things that Professor Bullier was talking about, And the attacks upon him were really they should have done more research about his life. And of course, your life also. Both those things, I think, are testaments to the American idea. So tell us, first of all, about Professor Boyer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. So let me first describe the attack. The attack basically took words and sentences out of the paper accusing Dr. Buehler and his co-authors of treating welfare recipients, poor people, as behaviorally deficient. And So the attacker, the leftists basically argue that poverty is really a result of a systemic, you know, structure issue. It's a result of social justice. It's not a behavior issue where you connect that to behavior. You basically discriminate against, you know, disrespect and discriminate against poor people, including women, like the example I used. And so it's, it's really a misrepresentation of Dr. Builder's research. And also, there's no evidence about Dr. Builder ever discriminating against the women, minority, and first-gen college students because, as I mentioned earlier, that he himself was a first-gen student. He grew up in rural Michigan, that he was the first in his family to go to college. And, you know, he made it out. He attended Northern Michigan University before he I went down to get a PhD at George Mason. And as for myself, you know, I basically made an argument in the piece that if the leftist attacks theory was correct, that the poverty is a structural issue, it has nothing to do with the behavior, it's all just a structural issue, then I use myself also as an additional example to say, hey, I came to this country more than 20 years ago, had less than $100 in my pocket, and I didn't speak very good English, and so if it's a structure and social poverty, the structure, social issues, then I really had no hope, right? I should have just remained in that life station. I had no hope to move on or move forward. But my experience today, I'm not only a successful entrepreneur, but also I'm a well-published writer in English, not my native language. And I think Dr. Buehler's experience as well as my experience shows that in this country, that your behavior does matter because where you start doesn't define where you end up. We can, each one of us can absolutely do better in our life. You know, not all of us are going to become millionaires or billionaires, if that's true, but we can all do absolutely better in our lives through our individual efforts. I think this leftist idea that every misfortune is always I mean, some of them may be the result of structural results, but many of them we can still make a difference. Even in the worst of circumstances, we can still make a difference in our life through our individual effort, our individual behavior. I think totally ignore the individual piece. To me, that's really your disrespect. Women, minority, and people in poverty think they do not have their own agency to better their life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and so Professor Boyer also has a proven track record of helping first-generation students and rural families and people from low-income communities. So tell us a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. So he was the dean of Northern Dakota University, State University. And he was also currently the dean of College of Business and University of Michigan. Both of those schools are... University of Wyoming, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
University of Wyoming.
SPEAKER 14 :
University of Wyoming. Yeah. University of Wyoming. Yes. And both of those schools are regional universities. So their student bodies, they cater to... I mean... Full disclosure, University of Wyoming is my alma mater, so I'm familiar with the students' bodies, especially in that university. So those are regional universities. They cater to the kind of population most of the students are, either first generations or seniors. You know, women, minorities, and, you know, because they're regional, they cater to the local community. So their student bodies are very similar to Northern Michigan University's student body. And there's, you know, professor viewers at the University of Wyoming has a very successful track record of, you know, get the schools improve their national rankings. and establish more scholarships, you know, bringing more speakers and basically really strengthen that College of Business program. So there's really no evidence that he ever discriminated or suppressed, you know, any first-gen students as well as women in the minority. There's just no evidence of that. That's why his attackers had to go dig up a more than 20-year-old paper and try to find a selective language and passages to discredit him.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. And we are in such a fight regarding our education system. And as we're having more transparency and seeing what has happened, for example, I know families that they sent their kids off to college and the kids come back indoctrinated in radical activist leftism. And so we are at a critical juncture in our education system right now, Helen Raleigh.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and so in my paper, I actually offered an example. So this was written right before, my draft was written before Northern Michigan made its announcement. So I used the Florida example, you know, a couple of years ago, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis basically signed into law to restrict the state colleges from spending federal and state fundings on DEI. And so in response, University of Florida and the several other state university systems, they actually dismantled their DEI bureaucracy and rededicated those financial resources to enhance their academic performance and attract the conservative faculties. And they have really basically improved their education. academic ranking. So Florida now, as of 2025, has four schools in top 50 for public universities, which is the second most among all states. So basically, Florida's experience shows, for universities, there is a path forward. you do not bow to the woke pressure, you get rid of the bureaucracy, you're focusing on prioritizing academic achievements and the diversity of ideas that will lead to incredible outcomes. Otherwise, what we are seeing is the families and students The college enrollment has been going down everywhere else, but the college enrollment in Florida is going up because parents and students, they want to pay for results, right? They want to return on investment. Why should the family pay, you know, $60,000, $70,000 a year, you know, for four years if their kids do not learn any useful skills or they fail? All they got was political induction, ideological indoctrination, like you mentioned. So schools, colleges, this should be a wake-up call that they need to learn how to provide values to the family. Otherwise, the free market is going to eventually kick them off life support. There's less and less desire. There are more and more calls for cutting federal funding for schools.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and that's my next question is, until Trump, I had no idea the billions of dollars that is going to colleges and universities. In addition, we've got kids that have taken on tremendous amount of debt. There has been so much money that has flowed into colleges and universities that And then that money's been used by radical activists, leftist professors to indoctrinate kids. First of all, I don't think we should be putting federal and state money into colleges and universities. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 14 :
I agree. You know, look at a Haystall College. I think, you know, even Haystall can do it. A lot of colleges should be able to do it. Haystall is a small liberal arts college also in Michigan. And ever since the school's founding, they never took a penny of taxpayer dollars. They all rely on you know, a private fundings and it's a tremendously successful college. So I think that that's the way it should be, um, that the colleges should be able to stand on their own again, just like everybody else, right. Competing the market of ideas. If they offer lousy, lousy service, um, you know, if there's no return on investment, they should have countdown, uh, taxpayer dollar to bail them back, uh, bail them out. And also that our college campuses today are really the hotbed. Basically, they are a very expensive indoctrination camp for young people because of the woke professors. I don't know if you saw this. Yesterday, there's a viral tweet showing that Zohan Mandani's father, he's a professor. Zohan Mandani is running for, is a socialist running for New York governor, I mean, New York mayor. And his father's a professor at Columbia. And, you know, they both are refugees from Uganda when they first came here. But he was, they're talking about America is the root of, quote him, He said America is the root of all evil and was the inspiration for Nazis. And Hitler learned the genocide from Abraham Lincoln. And he's able to spill this kind of nonsense. I mean, he's a professor at the University of Columbia. So he's been able to spill this nonsense. Imagine how many students he has been influenced. Yet nobody had to push back to him until now. It's because the college environment that he's able to thriving in a college environment and spill this kind of nonsense to indoctrinate young people generation after generation. And so this whole college funding model is totally broken.
SPEAKER 04 :
So Helen Raleigh, with declining enrollment and with government funding hopefully going away, some of these colleges and universities may close. Yes, or what's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, let the free market decide, right? They can think of swing. They can either decide to change, like universities in Florida have done, or if they keep holding on to their original model, then they obviously cannot survive. So that's one way. Another thing is I always advocate that not every kid needs to go to college. There are many paths to success in life. And I'm a big fan of Mike Rowe, the host of Dirty Job. And he mentioned, he's been talking about how we need more American young people to go to trade school, learn solid skills. And right now, actually, with the booming of AI, AI is wiping out, you know, entry-level white-collar jobs, like a base for coding, you know, customer service. But you know what jobs AI cannot, you know, wipe out yet? Plumbers, welders, you know, those are very well-paying jobs. So I think we're going to continue to see bifurcation of some young people just will not go to college at all, no matter how many colleges are there. They're just going to choose a different career path, and then some of the colleges will not survive. Without federal support, I mean, they will hopefully, you know, get out of the free market that most more successful schools like Heathdale thriving and educate next generation of Americans.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's a very exciting time in America right now. And I say I think that we're in the third founding of our country because when you have a candidate for New York mayor who was raised in a family that says that America is basically the root of all evil, that means that they don't love America. They don't love this American idea. You and I know that America is not perfect. But the sanctity of the individual with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, that was a radical idea when Jefferson wrote that in the Declaration. And you wonder what could happen if we had a country like that. And what can happen is your success, my success, Professor Boyer's success, that anything is possible. in this country. And that's why being dependent on government can really hold people back. Your final thought, Helen Raleigh, this has been so educational.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, thank you, Kim. You know, you've been doing an amazing job to help, you know, spread good ideas. I just want to say, you know, you and I love America, but we also criticize things here. But we do it out of love, right? It's like a mother, you know, criticize something his child does. You know, not because it's, you know, hatred, but it's out of love. But what Zohan Mandani's father said about America and the people like him in college campuses, in doctoral children, they criticize America out of hatred. We cannot hold a country together if people who... uh gain power in this country have no love for this country you know you can criticize america out of love but if you have no love this country we cannot keep this republic so i hope your listeners will differentiate between there are two kinds of a you know a criticism there are one out of love there one out of pure hatred and we want more out of love and to make this country and make this country better. But we should definitely denounce those who, not just criticize, denounce America, denounce everything good America based on hatred, because that kind of idea will not hold us together.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. And Lincoln said it, and I just read it when I was doing some Bible reading, is a house divided cannot stand. And so those that hate America want to divide us. And the language, though, that they use is they accuse others of what they're really trying to do. They accuse Donald Trump as a divider, but actually that is their particular agenda. And so we have to unite around this great American idea. I love this example that you gave regarding mother loving her child. I love that. That's awesome. Helen Raleigh, great conversation. I appreciate it. People can find you at Confucius Never Said at Substack. And what is your website?
SPEAKER 14 :
My website is HelenRaleighSpeaks.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's Helen Raleigh, and Raleigh is spelled R-A-L-E-I-G-H Speaks.com. Helen, we will talk again very soon. And thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you, Kim. Appreciate everything you have done.
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Good morning. Great pieces of information today. I want to give everybody a website, www.dysphoria.com. That's spelled D-Y-S-P-H-O-R-I-A, movie.com. Of course, it's from Aaron Lee and others in it. It is absolutely mind-setting. Blowing, stunning reality that every parent, not just in Colorado, but in the country, needs to watch this. And then you need to parlay that into action into your schools who are ignoring the presidential executive orders on everything to do with gender, SEL, DEI, and CRT. And let me give you some information that you might find interesting. In America, there are 2.8 million people who identify as transgender. These are estimated numbers. Of those, approximately 724,000 youths. are in that grouping. And that's probably inaccurate because the social-mental transitioning is occurring from kindergarten up, and the schools, the counselors, and the way overpaid administrators in the schools and all the middlemen getting paid are promoting all this when it should be going to real academic teaching and not medical, chemical, COVID, anything in the schools. Now, globally, that translates, we have approximately 8 billion people on the planet, right? And of that, maybe 413 million identify as some. Trans could be mental, it can be chemical, and it can be medical. It can be all of the above or one part. Now, that's about .01. Well, globally, maybe it's .05%. But nationally, we're looking at maybe .01%. How is a population of, let's say it's 0.02%, how does that small amount of the population get to determine what is happening in the schools to indoctrinate, as you were talking with Helen, all of our population? And they're breaking a lot of laws that no one, including the Denver legislature, the Denver governor or the secretary of state are admitting to and translate it to. If you had fair elections, none of this could happen. And. I'm going back. Tina Peters would never be in jail if the truth would be told. And she is saved, you know, election records. And until we fix and get rid of even the new guy that bought the machines, that's all a scam. If you don't get rid of the machines and have paper votes or this will continue to butcher children's bodies that are healthy.
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And we are excellent points, Scami, and you are so well informed, and I thank you for sharing that information with us. We have Action Ann on the line. Oh, PSA Ann on the line with us. PSA Ann, what's on your radar?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's in honor of Action Ann, actually, that moniker. This is a... PSA for your Jeffco listeners regarding, you may want to call your assessor and your assessor supervisor regarding two properties that don't seem to be on the tax rolls that were sold and are for sale. The sold one is at $14,000. Well, okay, the four-cell one that isn't on the tax rolls is at 52-56 Flora Way, and the one that's sold is 14... Let's see.
SPEAKER 04 :
And what is your concern with this? We only have a minute left, so what's your concern with this?
SPEAKER 11 :
They're not on the tax roll. 52-56 Flora Way is... for sale it's for sale currently and not on the tax rolls and that became 52 56 floor away from a 14 000 block of west 52nd avenue that also is not on the tax rolls so your listeners might want to call your assessor scott kersgaard and your assessor supervisor janiece berger and also the person who's selling it, who is at 303-946-7358, and find out about that. How can they be sold and for sale and not on the tax rolls?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, very interesting. Curious. curious. So we'll have to have to check on that. So property's not on the tax rolls. Why is that? I think that's the key question there. So as always, we learn so much. I thank all of you. I so appreciate you listening and kicking the tires on all of these ideas. It is so important to shed light on this. And that's why the quote from Confucius is so important. He said this, all the darkness in the world can't put out the light of one candle. And that's what we work to do here on the show is to light a candle so that we can reclaim our state, reclaim our country. And we work on that every day. So thank you. And today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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