Join Mike Gallagher as he navigates through the complexities of the U.S. political landscape with an engaging discussion on tax reforms, government funding priorities, and the ongoing Ukraine-Russia conflict. This episode unfolds as Mike examines the viability of defunding NPR and PBS, challenging the status quo of public broadcasting funding. Mike engages with callers to explore diverse perspectives on America's foreign policy, particularly the strategic and moral implications of supporting Ukraine amidst its tensions with Russia. As Gallagher weaves personal anecdotes and listener input, he paints a vivid picture of America's challenges and potential solutions in the ever-evolving political arena.
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What we're doing right now is by making all those tax cuts permanent, we're preventing the largest tax increase in U.S. history. Kristen, if we don't get this bill passed, every American is going to receive the largest tax increase in the history of our country at the end of this year when the TCJA expires. Don't forget that. We have to extend it, and this is the vehicle to do it.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Yeah, I don't mean to be overly melodramatic, but if this bill doesn't get passed, it's going to be a catastrophe for the country, for the Trump administration, for every man, woman and child in this country. This bill better pass. And if Republicans, I mean, it'll be their last act if we find that there are Republicans who torpedo the big, beautiful bill. they'll be out of office. I mean, surely America will understand collectively that they're the ones that sabotaged it. It's not going to be perfect. It's not going to be as extensive as we want. But we cannot let the Democrats lose. I mean, the Democrats win and the Republicans lose this. We can't let the Democrats have this massive victory. They are praying that Thomas Massey and Tom Tillis and go down the list will get in the way of the big, beautiful bill. It's got to pass. It's got to pass. And we've got so much to try to tackle today. I mean, just moments ago, it was revealed that Ukraine has announced they've attacked Russia again after their attack on Russian air bases the other day, which reportedly was done without notifying President Trump or the United States. Now, let that sink in as Vladimir Zelensky continues to have his hand out, expecting the American taxpayer to fund this war between Russia and Ukraine. Evidently, Ukraine bombed a bunch of planes in Russia without telling Trump or the United States of America. If that's true, you go ahead and tell me why we should continue to fund and support and defend Ukraine. Americans are getting their fill of Zelensky and Ukraine. And moments ago, Ukraine now announced it has struck a major bridge between connecting Russia to Crimea with underwater explosives. So evidently, Ukraine has again attacked Russia. And the pro-Russia people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, way to go, way to go, way to go, Zelensky. You're going to beat Russia. And I keep asking you, is there any scenario where you think Ukraine defeats Russia? Is there any plausible belief that Ukraine will defeat Vladimir Putin and his army? And I keep wondering and asking what we're doing in that mess. Why we're continuing to be there in terms of funding and support and all of the, remember all the Ukrainian flags? Look, we get it. Putin's a bad guy. We understand that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was wrong. And Trump's got his hands full. He's trying to figure it out. But I come back to our taxpayer support. I want to go back to whether or not... You look at things that we fund. Part of the Big Beautiful Bill, for example, is defunding NPR and PBS. There's no reason for taxpayers to fund broadcast programming for anybody. They're claiming, they're suing Trump. NPR and PBS are suing Trump, claiming that it's a constitutional violation for them not to get taxpayer money. Are you kidding me? In other words, you don't fund all things considered, or you don't want to fund all things considered, or Elmo, you're shredding the Constitution. That's their argument, which kind of confirms for me that we have no business funding public broadcasting. If that's the best they got, that somehow it's unconstitutional, they don't have a leg to stand on. Sell more tote bags. Sell more advertising. You already do that anyway. Just up your game, NPR. Up your game, PBS. And they're squealing like stuck pigs at the thought of losing taxpayer funding. Well, what if we don't want to fund their biased agenda? It's broadcast. It's broadcast. Nobody's going to fund the Mike Gallagher show or the Chris DeGaulle show or the Hugh Hewitt show or Town Hall. You think, what would happen if taxpayers were funding conservative media? So now do Ukraine. Ukraine, with these audacious attacks, striking Russia, evidently without our knowledge, disrespecting President Trump, And he is holding his cards to the vest because he's got a mess on his hands. And part of the mess is America's involvement. So you tell me Ukraine strikes Russia continually without our knowledge, evidently, and you think we should continue to financially support Ukraine? What's the endgame? What's the endgame? These are reasonable questions. Janet is in Oregon, who makes the case that Ukraine should continue to get our support. Hi, Janet. Welcome. How are you today?
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I'm doing okay, sweetie. I just started listening to you, and I enjoy it very much.
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Thank you, Janet. Well, welcome to the family. We're glad you're with us. Tell me why you think we should continue to fund Ukraine.
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Because Putin went over there and he's a bad person. Right. And his soldiers went over there and started and thrashed that country. Right. They have beautiful women over there, beautiful men, beautiful children, a beautiful country, beautiful buildings. Right. History. Right. History. And... And so he deserves what he gets from Putin. Not their country, really.
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Right, right. Well, let me ask you then. Okay, and we can agree that Putin's a bad guy and the invasion of Ukraine was horrible.
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And then you want to know about... Hang on, let me ask you the question.
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So do you think there's any scenario where Ukraine can defeat Russia?
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I don't know, but they started it, and they hurt babies, and they hurt children.
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That's a different subject, though. I know that. Well, Ukraine is hurting babies and children, too. I mean, there's a lot of Russians.
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Well, I can't help that. They started it. Okay, so you want us to... I don't really want them to hurt... No one wants them to hurt babies and children or adults. But we can't get to Putin, okay? We cannot get to him. He's killed people, and he's an evil. Someone should have taken care of that problem a long time ago.
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We got that. But he's still in control, and he's still got his army, and he's still got his nuclear capabilities. And you say you don't know. If you're going to fund Ukraine, what do you think the end game is? What's the goal? What's the end result in our taxpayers' support of Ukraine?
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Well, look where all the taxpayers' money is going anyway to all kinds of other stuff, and it's just not helping the world a whole lot.
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I got you. All right, Janet. Well, we're glad. Sorry, I have to disagree on this. I'm not making any progress with you, but I really would like to find somebody who can tell me what they think the endgame is going to be. You think Ukraine is going to defeat Russia? You think Ukraine is going to topple Russia? And then what do we do? Should we have boots on the ground in Russia and Ukraine? How far do you want to go? How far do you want to support this? And some of this is really strange. The big attack the other day came the day after Lindsey Graham went over there with a contingent. And I'm absolutely baffled by that. But I really am asking why... I appreciate Janet's big-hearted perspective that Putin is bad and hurt a good country like Ukraine. Incidentally, Janet, whatever you do, don't Google Ukraine corruption. Don't look up what Ukraine has been up to for many years under the leadership of Zelensky. They're not exactly choir boys. They're not exactly angelic themselves. A lot of corruption, a lot of graft, a lot of journalists imprisoned, a lot of bad things in Ukraine too. But it comes down to why should we be a part of this? Why should we be in the mix? And I keep asking and asking and asking, and thus far, I can't come up with, get much of an answer. Maybe you can help. 800-655-MIKE, one open line, 800-655-6453. PhD weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind, you don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me, I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Promo code MikeG. Here's Chad in Kalamazoo, Michigan, who agrees with Janet that funding for Ukraine should continue. I can't get my screen to work, guys. I don't know what's going on here. My mouse has gone out. Can you pull up two for me, Eric? Line two, Kalamazoo, because it's not. There we go. Hey, Chad, how are you?
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Great, sir. Love your show. Thank you. I'll get right to the point.
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Sure.
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I don't necessarily agree with Janet. I just think that I believe it was back in 92, part of removing nuclear bombs from Ukraine is that we kind of got ourselves in a position, if they ever got themselves into a tussle, that we'd have their back. Yeah. Not necessarily agree with what's going on, but the other point is one of the top generals say, If you want to play war games, you don't want to do it on the home court.
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I know. I know. I hear you. And I just wonder... Thanks, Chad. I just wonder... I'm a pretty simple guy. I keep asking everyone, what's the goal here in continuing to fund, with American taxpayer money, this battle between Russia and Ukraine? And I think there's a... I think there's a... a sensitivity that people have to the brazen cruelty of Vladimir Putin. And I appreciate that. That's why I can't get too angry at people like Janet, because what Ukraine has been put through is awful. But now, how do we fix that? And how do you expect us to fix that? That's the question. I did an interview yesterday with a reporter who was asking me about any of my contentious interviews that I had over my career. He was writing, and they do really good work at Barrett Media. I'm enjoying their work, and there's some great writers over there like this Garrett Seawright. And he called me and said, look, considering the contentious exchange between – it was Megyn Kelly and – Who was it with? Bill Maher? Who'd she mix it up? Oh, no, Jake Tapper. It was Jake Tapper. That's right. So, you know, and it got real contentious. And, of course, we covered it on the show. So Barrett Media called and said, in your career, have you ever had a contentious interview like that? And I had to think about it. And I thought, not really. The only thing that came to mind was when Michael Smirconish hung up on me in the middle of an interview. Remember that, Eric? Michael Smirconish was allegedly a conservative radio host from Philly. And he wrote a column that I was intrigued by because he was sort of playing footsie with Barack Obama. And I thought, this is odd that a conservative radio host is sort of positive about Barack Obama. What is it about Obama's agenda that any conservative could find acceptable? So I invited him on the show. He came on the show. Midway through the interview, I find out he says he voted for Obama. I said, you voted for Obama? And I couldn't believe it. I was just stunned. And he wound up hanging up on me. In fact, he later followed up. Remember, Eric, he wrote a column about it? Because he used to write for the Philadelphia Inquirer. I don't know if he still does or not. But he wound up writing about basically the obnoxious, awful, monstrous Mike Gallagher and how dare I criticize. And then it turned out a few weeks later, he did his show from Obama's White House. I thought, oh, now it kind of makes sense. But I've got nothing against the guy. He's got a weekend show now, right, over on X? I mean on X, on CNN? I think he's on CNN. I don't know much about the guy. I just remember when I had to think in my body of work of any of the contentious interviews that I've ever had, that was the one that came to mind because it's not often that somebody hangs up on me. mid-interview. Well, there was the other guy that hung up on me. A guy that... I won't say the name. In fact, I'll just get in trouble for saying that. But he was a very busy man. And he had other things to do. Started the interview, said, I gotta go. Click. I'll never forget that. It's strange. It's strange to be hung up on by really important people like Michael Smirconish. What are you gonna do? Just another day in paradise. Speaking of Obama lovers like Smirconish, how about the way the legacy media is twisting itself into a pretzel over the secure border? Great piece from Red State I want to share with you. Stick around. There's a lot more of our Tuesday episode coming up on the Salem News Channel and the Salem Radio Network. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com, use the promo code MikeG, MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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The reality is there will either be less inventory or things at higher prices or both.
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When we were here in March, you said there was going to be big inflation. There hasn't been any inflation. Actually, the inflation numbers are the best in four years. So why don't we stop trying to say this could happen and wait and see what does happen.
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In the Relief Factor studios on Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
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That was a great moment when Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, reminded Margaret Brennan, hey, last time I was here, you said inflation was going to be spiraling out of control. Inflation is the lowest it's been in four years. Unemployment is virtually nonexistent in America. Trump's approval ratings continue to go up. New poll came out today, Trafalgar Group, 53%. Rasmussen's got him at 51%, 52%. Funny, you'd think the way that they're blaming him for everything from your Aunt Bertha's gout to the thunderstorms, he'd be underwater with his approval rating. Let's not... One of the challenges I face every day is to spend too much time with the crazies. Because it feels like the world has gone completely wackadoodle, but it hasn't. There's a lot of good, decent, normal, wonderful things in the world. A lot of joy in the world. And I urge you to... The pastor at the sermon on Sunday's church service talked about gravitating to joy. Making sure joy... fills you. I just reposted something on X. A minor league baseball player was taken out of the game. I don't even know what team he played for. I just came across this a couple of minutes ago because I spend too much time on my phone. That's one of the things I got to work on. But a minor league baseball player was taken out of the game and his coach or the manager of the team told him why. He's being called up to the majors. Now, for a minor league baseball player, to get that call, to get that message, it's everything. You've worked your whole life to get to that point. And they had cameras and microphones rolling when the manager told the player, you're being called up to Seattle. You're going to be in the big leagues. And his reaction, that young man's take, and the hugs and the tears and the joy in that dugout. Follow me on X if you want to put a smile on your face. At Gallagher Show is my handle, and I hope you'll follow me. I've been stuck at 75,000 followers forever. Come on, we can do better than that. Can I get to 80 at least or 90? Help a brother out. Get me to 100. So I don't have Hugh Hewitt always bragging about how many billions of followers he has. I've got a long way to go to catch up to some of my colleagues and friends. But I like X, and I'm enjoying it. We stream the show every day, Salem News Channel on X. Again, at Gallagher Show, check us out. And there is a... Right now, we've got a post... On X, I just reposted the video clip of the minor league baseball player being told he's making it to the big leagues. Joy. Remember joy. Yes, we got challenges. Yes, we got things we're up against. Don't. fail, to get drawn to joy. I get the joy of coming to work every day and telling you about places like Chapter. When I hit 65 a couple of weeks ago, I admitted I was feeling sorry for myself. I do that once in a while. You know me. And I didn't know how to navigate Medicare. And I needed Medicare because, look, I'm Part A, Part B, G, LMNOP. And it was a mess. I was getting bombarded by I was getting bombarded with all kinds of letters and phone calls. Gosh, chapter came to my rescue. If you're turning 65 or if you're over 65, take control. Call 25 Medicare and talk to a chapter representative. The choices are complex. They're difficult. But you could be making a whole lot of mistakes with Medicare. They make it simple. They advocate for you. That's the difference. Their database searches all coverage options. They're not affiliated with the insurance industry. 25 Medicare. Call 25 Medicare or go to Medicare4Mike.com. Medicare4Mike.com. Here's a lot of, this is about 50-50. Connecticut sends me a text on the MyPillow text line. The never-ending war proponents need to abandon the notion of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Russia was an ally in World War II. Afghanistan was a friend when they were fighting Russia? Sometimes we have to let them kill each other off and let God sort it out. Well, a little cynical approach. I'm not sure I'd go with that. But Tom makes a point. Tom makes a point. How far should our funding for Ukraine go? And what are we going to do if and when that dreadful moment occurs when Russia decides to retaliate against us? Kenny is in St. Louis, Missouri. Hey, Kenny, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. How are you today? Just fine. How are you, Mike? I'm great, sir. What's up?
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All right. Well, the forever war, I'm not for it, but I believe that we are obligated to keep spending money there.
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I see. Are we obligated?
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to back them if they gave up their nuclear weapons.
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Sure. So should we back them and go to war with Russia, Kenny? You want to go to war with Russia?
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No, but here's the deal.
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What are we going to do if they retaliate? What are we going to do if they retaliate? What if Russia decides they're cornered? What if they're so frustrated at our support for Ukraine that Russia decides to retaliate against us?
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Let me ask you this. What are we going to do if Russia attacks a NATO country?
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We gave our word to them, too. You just changed the subject. I want you to stay focused. Do you want to go to war with Russia or not? No, I don't. Why not? We gave our word to Ukraine to help them, you said, Kenny.
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I said I don't want to, but we may have to.
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Oh, we may have to.
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We gave our word to protect them.
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Got it.
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I don't get it. I don't remember.
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So you think it's worth losing American lives in a battle, in a war with Russia, which would likely be a nuclear war, because you say we gave our word to Ukraine that we'd have their back? You realize what that sounds like?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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You know what I mean? Our word has no meaning whatsoever.
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Then let's go to war with Russia, Kenny. Let's get into a nuclear conflict with Russia because we gave our word to Ukraine, right?
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Well, if that's what it turns out to be. Don't make promises you can't keep.
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If that's what it turns out to be. Now, I don't mean this to be disrespectful because you sound like a great guy. I have a hunch you're not, you and I aren't in a fighting age. So when you're committing troops, I'll bet that doesn't involve you or your kids, does it? No, it doesn't, but Vietnam was. Well, God bless you, and we appreciate your service. And you gave ably, and you served this country. Now don't expect us to have your grandkids serve this country in a war with Russia. Kenny, I mean this with love, and I mean this with respect. You don't want us to go to war with Russia. Period. And at some point, we've got to turn off the spigot. At some point, enough is enough. At some point, we've got to realize that there's a reason that the Bill Crystals of the world are all, and the Mike Pence's of the world, are enamored with supporting Ukraine. Because they never met a forever war they didn't like. Period. How about we pay our debts? How about we get our own act in order? How about we get our house in order? How about we pass the big, beautiful bill, And ramp down our massive debt before we keep giving billions and billions and billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine. Look, I admit, I'm surprised at the amount of callers who are in favor of funding Ukraine. It's intriguing to me. And I appreciate it. Look, Kenny, I appreciate your point of view. We all agree to disagree today, but that's okay. And I've got Robert here in Michigan. Same thing. Fund Ukraine. Let me let me quickly. And I'm up against a clock here. I'm up against a hard break, Robert. But let me quickly ask you, you want to go to war with Russia?
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If I get a chance to elaborate, if we have to go to war with Russia, we do. But here's the real deal. I'm the smartest person that ever called your call. I'll tell you some stuff. There's always been the big bad wolf at the door. The generals and admirals go to say we need this many nukes. We need the boomer submarines. We need all these bombs. The truth of the matter is Russia's nuclear stockpile is a mess. It's left over from the old USSR. Most of the stuff will blow up in the silos or on launch.
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Like I said, I'm fighting the clock on this one. Again, as smart as you are, I can't get past your opening sentence. If we go to war with Russia, so be it.
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Yes, because they will surrender, because they know they cannot possibly win.
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I got you. We're going to beat Russia in a war. Okay, thank you, Robert. A couple of old-timers. And look, and I say that with respect. I respect my elders, but we got a lot of older Americans are calling this show saying, hey, so be it. Let's go to war with Russia. Okay, let's go right ahead. We'll beat them. Yeah, like I said, Robert, you don't want to play that game. You're playing a game of chicken with somebody else's kids. Maybe your own. Maybe your grandkids. And I think there's just people that sit around and say they never met a war, a conflict that they didn't salivate over. So it's a new day. 2025 is a new time. And here's the good news. Here's the great news. We've got a president, we've got a commander-in-chief who I believe with all of my heart is going to handle this and is going to figure this out. And that's why we've got to keep praying for the Trump administration. Because we got a mess on our hands that he's going to have to sort out. And you can tell from his actions and what he's saying about Putin. And he is not Putin's stooge. He is not Putin's ally. He just doesn't want to pick a fight with a war that your neighbor's kids are going to have to fight.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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I started my day talking to my buddy Mark Davis about spending too much time on my phone. I do. I'll go down a rabbit hole. Man, I'll spend a half hour, 45 minutes. I'll want to go somewhere and I'll sit down and I'll start scrolling. My kids call it doom scrolling. One of my kids says, Dad, stop doom scrolling. And he's right. I spend way too much time on it. But there's so much good stuff out there and so much to deal with. So much to tackle right now. And I saw a clip of Eric Swalwell, that Trump-hating Democrat in Congress, who mocked President Trump by eating a taco. Taco is the newest pejorative, the newest name-calling they're coming up with, the newest moniker they're trying to hang around President Trump's neck. TACO stands for Trump Always Chickens Out. You know, the other day, that goofball governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, stood up and said, we got to bully the blank out of Trump. We got to get meaner and we got to bully him. Which is quite the declaration from a former teacher. Wasn't he a coach? But now, evidently, he's an advocate of bullying, as long as we bully the right people. And if you bully Trump, well, certainly you've got to bully MAGA. You've got to bully anybody with a red MAGA hat on or drives a Tesla or has an American flag in their yard. I mean, you know, they're probably one of those. They're probably a Trump supporter. So the newest trick is to call him Taco. Trump always chickens out. You stop and think about what Trump has been through as a person, just as a human being. Forget the 45th and 47th president of the United States. Incidentally, isn't it great to see the chart of presidents and how they have to put all the pictures of the presidents? And you got Trump 45, Biden 46, and Trump 47. Isn't that great? Nobody else has that claim, right? Maybe there's one other. I don't know. In the 1800s, did somebody... Grover Cleveland maybe did the same thing. So it's Donald and Grover. So now they're saying Trump always chickens out. I love what Joe Rogan said about Trump the other day. And it got a lot of response on this show because it was so... It was so pitch perfect.
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It's also like, they're like, oh, he's a crazy person. Like, yeah, that's the only kind of person that would survive what you try to do to him. Right. That's the only kind of guy that gets through. Like, you want a perfect person? A perfect person morally falls apart by the time they've been indicted and they've 34 counts, felony counts. Like, your whole body is just destroyed by the stress of you possibly going to jail for the rest of your life. You have to be a... insane person to ride that out and not look like anything even happened then you get shot you get up after you got shot you're bleeding from your ear and you go fight fight fight you gotta be a crazy person to get through he's a nightmare for anybody that's trying to rig a system that guy's the nightmare he's the final boss of you you know they're gonna spend the rest of time studying evaluating
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and dissecting this man. There's been nobody like him in history. Nobody comes close. Newt Gingrich posted on X, So Taco, Trump always chickens out, is the newest fake smear of the man who endured an FBI-CIA smear, a two-year investigation, two impeachment efforts, a rigged 2020 election, four efforts to put him in jail, and two assassination attempts. Trump endures and prevails would be a more accurate comment. That would be T-Ape. T-E-A-P. T-E-A-P. Trump endures and prevails. The Tim Walz comment really got to me because, as Austin and Clearwater puts it, Tim Walz is one of the least intimidating... Men walking the planet. He thinks he's going to bully the guy? Who stood up and said fight, fight, fight after he got shot? They have such rage and violent impulses with such noodle arms. It's hilarious. I mean, it's true. There could be a lot of it. You want taco? Here's one from South Carolina. Taco. Trump always conquers others. That would be the right acronym. And this is what they do, though. This is what they're left with. I'm not even going to play the stupid Eric Swalwell clip of him sitting at his desk shoving a taco in his mouth. And incidentally, mouth open. He eats with his mouth open. Food coming out of his mouth. Just gross. These people are gross. Gross. I wonder if Eric Swalwell's getting enough fruits and vegetables in his system. Maybe he ought to consider balance in nature. Yes, even Eric Swalwell could benefit from fruits and veggies in capsule form. Portions of our show sponsored by Balance of Nature, their method of producing a vibrant nutritional supplement second to none. Balance of Nature is made solely from whole food ingredients. Message is pretty simple. It's just fruits and vegetables in capsule form. Balance of Nature packs a nutritional punch, and that's the whole reason for taking a Balance of Nature in the first place, to get the most nutrition for the sake of your health. Use my discount code MikeG. We'll get you 35% off plus free shipping and their money-back guarantee. Got to use the discount code MikeG. Call 800-246-8751. 800-246-8751. Use the discount code MikeG. Or order balanceofnature.com. Balanceofnature.com. You can order online. Use the discount code MikeG so we can get you 35% off plus free shipping. Balance of Nature. Fruits and vegetables in capsule form. It's as simple as that. What happened in Boulder, Colorado was a terrorist attack. It is as simple as that. Yesterday we spent some time. wondering why Trump haters and the legacy media denied it was a terrorist attack. Jonathan Turley, the legal scholar and professor, broke it down on Fox News yesterday.
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This is a classic terrorism case. What the evidence shows is that there was preparation, rather deadly preparation, his intention to target people over their religion, and clearly an effort to terrorize this community. So this is a lead pipe cinch of a case for terrorism. The bringing of initial charges are often placeholders for the federal government to say that they have an outstanding charge against an individual. There's often tension or at least some coordination between the federal government and state governments in crimes like this. There may be, frankly, less deference with regard to Boulder because it has a rather liberal record in terms of enforcement. But they have to work out together who will proceed.
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Look, let's go up the dial to CNN or down the dial. Scott Jennings with a pretty profound observation about Boulder and the terrorist attack.
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I mean, this is horrific. And what more do we need to see, Jake, before we realize this free Palestine movement is nothing more than a domestic terror organization right now? I mean, we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago. We had this issue in Colorado. We've seen, you know, the activities on college campuses now for months and months and months and months. The rise of anti-Semitism in America, the rise in the number of people who have come to America who hold anti-American views, anti-Western views and anti-Semitic views and are now willing to act on it. It is absolutely outrageous. And I think as a society, we need to understand we are dealing with domestic terrorism. It's growing more violent by the day. And if we don't deal with it, these kinds of things are going to keep happening in cities all over the place. It's awful. And we need to come to grips with the fight that we're in right now in America, a fight for the future of our country and the future of Western civilization, in my opinion.
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I wonder how bad an attack is going to have to be before the angry, violent, vicious left realizes how bad it could get for us. Fox News Channel's Kennedy with the final word on this subject before we turn it over to you.
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This anti-Semitism, this malignant anti-Semitism that has taken hold and it's deadly in this country. And when it's not deadly, that is accidental because it is intended to take as many lives and cause as much harm as possible. And, you know, unfortunately, some of the most vocal members of the free, free Palestine movement are also very murderous. If the media turns away, are you doing it in a way that is almost complicit and fanning the flames of other hateful people who really would like to, in their own awful way, accomplish what the Nazis did during World War II at those camps?
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You could take another approach like Keith Olbermann or Maria Kaldon or whatever her name is on CNN. Blame Trump for Boulder. Blame Trump for the terrorist attacks. My friend Mark Davis this morning said something pretty profound. I remember years and years ago, I got in trouble. Somebody called me out because I said, not all Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims. And that was true then. And that's what we were facing. And Mark kind of coined that phrase or did a little bit of an edit on that. Not all leftists... are violent jihadists. But the violent jihadists are all leftists. And that's what the media and the Democrats are terrified of. Where do you hear the way Mark Halperin and Sean Spicer They had a panel talking about how Democrats need to respond to the violent terrorism we're seeing in the streets of America, fueled by the radical leftists who are all about anti-Semitism. We'll share that with you in just a moment. Stick around for that. Our number is 800-655-MICRO in the Relief Factor studios.
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Justice Department opens investigation on the Biden auto pen controversy.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow on a Tuesday. Well, it feels like a Friday. I mean, even just sitting here with you for 15 minutes, getting ready for the show. felt like a long time you know sometimes there's a lot of news sometimes there's not too much news this one though has kind of keep coming back up and of course it has to do with president biden and his use of auto pins specifically on pardons that's right pardon me while i burst to quote our friends in incubus uh no i don't think uh i don't think the same thing but using the auto pin I've used an auto pin. Yeah. I have operated an auto pin machine. Now the auto pin machine I operated was in the 1990s. So I have a feeling they've gotten better. Yeah. But before it was like operating an organ at an old church where you had a pedal and a, you know, pressurization. And it was a lot to work with because look, if you're running a business, a lot of people have these auto pin situations. The question now comes to, if you were doing these presidential acts, does it matter if you are just, if Joe Biden was aware that, And I guess that's going to be the big question. If he was aware, does it invalidate it if you use an auto pin or pre-printed signature or a docu-sign, if you will? I mean, a lot of us have bought houses now online. You used to have to sign every document a million times. Now you go through and just say, that looks like my signature. And you go through it. I think Will and I are going to have similar takes. And look, they may not be the take that you want to hear. I know that big question, though, is it was President Biden aware of how often his signature was being used and what is being used for? Not necessarily. And I do think you've got to get stop getting in the weeds here of whether it's OK or not to use the auto pen. As we know, it has had been kind of part of standard operation for a very long time.
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That's right. And we will get into some of that in the next segment. But the big news item here is that Trump's Justice Department is examining pardons issued by Biden. And this is Ed Martin, the Justice Department pardon attorney, wrote in an email and several news organizations saw this, were privy to it, that the investigation involves whether Biden was, quote, competent and whether others were taking advantage of him through the use of auto pin or other means so trump's department of justice right now is reportedly looking into many of these last day pardons some of them were the preemptive pardons against his for his family in favor of his family some as he was walking up during the inauguration they were dropping that's right and and once again that in and of itself is not abnormal in a presidency what's abnormal is all the reporting that we've seen about the mental state and the decline of president biden and i'm about three quarters of the way through three quarters away through the original sin and what and what even is coming out of that is that The running from the basement kind of meme about President Biden in 2020 was a reality. And honestly, the people around him saw a decline even while he was running for president the first time. So this is what is bubbling up all these questions about the state he was in at the end. But as you said, we're going to get into our take kind of on it in the next segment and some of the dangers to look at around this conversation going forward. Yeah.
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I think that those who maybe are not that familiar with the auto pin machines in the system, you're not talking about just a pre-printed signature that goes, this is a machine that essentially creates a live style signature. You put a pin in, you can put a Sharpie in, you could do different kinds of instruments to create these signatures. Sometimes they will create little variances in them. A lot of times they do not. However, someone will in the autograph collecting world. And I'm in a lot of autograph groups. I'll be honest. There's some pretty big tells if it's an auto-pin. So it's not hard to push through to find out, are these actually auto-pin signatures? Whether that matters or not to you, I want to know. 1-800-684-3110. Again, I think the controversy may be, was his ability to do it? Not, could they use an auto-pin? Just from a clerical statement. 1-800-684-3110. What do you think? I want to hear from you today. I want you to also support the work of the ACLJ. We're going to tell you why coming up. We'll be right back. Both lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We also keep an update of what's going on in Boulder, Colorado, as we know that terrorist attack on those Israeli demonstrators. There's a lot more information coming aboard, including that the attacker said he'd been planning this for over a year. He had worked as an Uber driver, had been a part of the community for quite some time and had been building to this moment. So we're going to keep you updated on that as well, including some of the work the ACLJ is doing. Phone lines, though, are open for you. When this auto pin controversy hit, I think Will and I both had a similar feeling, which is this is where you can't get stuck in the weeds. I felt that way when Dan Bongino and Kash Patel said, hey, we're opening up three investigations. And one of them was the illegal substances found in the White House. I go, this is a waste of time. There are things that I agree with. the leaking of the Roe versus Wade overturning when Dobbs decision came out. We should find out more information about that. I'm totally fine with that. Jeffrey Epstein stuff. Sure. Let's find out more information about those things. I don't think we need to undersell those moments, but sometimes I feel like we'll get lost in the weeds in terms of something like this or this auto pin situation where, again, it's not whether you can use an auto pin or not. Well, I think you said it's been standard practice for decades, is whether President Biden knew what his signature was doing.
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That's right. So the Office of Legal Counsel at the Department of Justice had a memo in 2005, and that was actually authored by an individual who was at the DOJ, now is a federal judge that was appointed by President Trump. So this isn't someone on the left or something like that. But this memo... was to kind of flush out the legal theory whether it was constitutional for a president to use an auto pin or some other device to sign legislation. And why this is important, because people will say, well, we're talking about pardons, we're talking about EOs. The only thing in the U.S. Constitution that requires a signature from the president is...
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is legislation right that lays out the process of house and senate pass it it goes to the president for a signature we've always discussed whether president can almost speak things into existence can you declassify by just saying right this is declassified because the the constitution as you said and our laws don't necessarily say they have to have a live wet signature
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Right. And what the Office of Legal Counsel decided in 2005 in this standard practice is that even signing legislation, what is required to be signed by the U.S. Constitution is fair game for auto pen, because if the president has made the decision and told a subordinate to affix his signature, his or her signature to that legislation, that is within the constitutional requirements of signing it. Now, Now you get to the question about executive orders. Executive orders aren't explicitly mentioned in the Constitution for obvious reasons, but they come under the president's power through the take care clause that the president shall take care of faithfully executing the laws of the country. And that manifests in many ways. One of those ways are executive orders. So while they are signed. There is a constitutional requirement that an executive order be signed by a president. And then the third thing, pardons. You get into and you say, okay, if he signed these pardons and didn't know about it, is it valid? Well... pardons are very simple as well and this is kind of like the declassification argument where pardons it just says that the president shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons except in the case of impeachment so that doesn't say can sign a pardon in the text of the constitution that goes to that broader question like pardon can a president who has the power to classify just say declassify that's actually an argument president trump made about the classified documents issue is i believe so Right. I would argue that, yes. We've argued that there is broad power within the executive. Here's the concern for me, is that by this president looking back and trying to add limits to the executive power before him, when many of them, pardons can't be undone, but executive orders, you don't need to decide whether he was competent or not. You can just do away with them. You can re-executive order the executive order. Exactly. Very easily. Now, the pardon issue, if you start to put limits, on the president's uh power from the previous president by saying he wasn't cognitively okay uh he didn't know about it one i don't think that's ever going to be provable in a court of law because now we have all the uh the evidence that he was declining from all the reporting but There is a remedy in the Constitution for someone that is president and unable to fulfill their duties. 25th Amendment. That was not invoked. So now, we're already seeing the case in the media that President Trump isn't fit for office. He's in a state of mental decline. What happens to all the January 6th protesters that were pardoned by President Trump or the Chrisley family that was just pardoned by President Trump? If under the next administration, they try to do this and say, we don't think he was mentally fit for office. They've been arguing that for years. Therefore, his pardons don't matter. That's the slippery slope I see on this issue.
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It's too slippery of a slope. It's too dangerous. And it's a waste of time. Look, I'm looking at the comments. I fully expected you all to kind of go after me and Will and be like, oh you guys just don't get it very few of that most of you understand there's so many big things happening in the world that this one is sort of completely unnecessary uh i think that there's a way you could look back and do an investigation into how it was done if it was done properly but like will said the idea of we're going to unpardon pardoned people i i don't see that getting any sort of traction i don't really want it to get any traction We have to call things out when they get called out, and you have to also look. And look, I know the FBI and the Department of Justice always goes, we can do a couple things at once. We're a big department. It's not like everyone has to work on these things. That's right, but it is taking away valuable resources when there are some real trying times happening right now. There are real things happening on the streets of America. You can go back and listen to my show yesterday. I'm not going to spend a ton of time talking about what happened in Boulder, Colorado, because you know that weighed on me pretty hard. Again, another night, another kind of sleepless night last night. That's the situation happening in the United States of America. So do I care whether President Biden or any president used an auto pin to sign a document? I mean, look, let's just be honest. When your kids see get their presidential fitness certificate, do you really think the president has signed that? I mean, maybe he did. I don't know. I can't say with certainty. I have not seen it. If I could, I could see. Because there's dots that you can, there's a tells will in the auto-pin. But likely, no. Likely that's not been worth his time and they will auto-pin those. And that's why it's there. That's why it should exist. If the big question, as you said, Will, is something that's kind of undefinable, which is, was Joe Biden... We can all say, as you've been reading that book, you can all say, look at it and go, he was not probably able to do this. But if we start peeling back that onion... The ramifications are huge.
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That's right. And in reality, and many people are pointing out the her report from the special counsel Robert, which during that he said he would not he would not be able to convince a jury that President Biden was anything other than a well-meaning older gentleman with a poor memory. And that he wouldn't be able to bring this before a jury because they would see him as sympathetic and that he wasn't fit to stand trial is kind of the way that people talk about this. But we need to also remember. We fought against special counsels investigating the president as well. What Robert Hurd did was decline to prosecute after the president would have left office because he would not have been able to prosecute him while in office and made a decision that once he was at that age, would not have been able to secure a conviction, nor would have been worth the time of the Department of Justice. Now, If people had done their constitutional duty and read that and thought he is unfit for office and take that with the context of everything that they've done. 25th Amendment, Section 4, something they tried to talk about that President Trump should have had used against him. is where the vice president and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or other such body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the president pro tem of the Senate and the Speaker of the House their written declaration that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office and the vice president shall immediately assume the powers and duties of office as acting president. Then the president can respond and then it takes a two-thirds majority to permanently dismiss put the vice president in his acting. No one did that. Kamala Harris didn't do that. None of the people that were cabinet members that in this book are saying like, he wouldn't even talk to us. He tried to minimize our contact. They had that constitutional power and didn't use it. If that is the case, that they believed that, they were asleep at the wheel. They didn't do what they could have done if they truly had the best interest of the country at heart by saying, he is not able to do this. Instead, they left someone who was President of the United States in office and continued to go down this path. So I don't think, though, that starting to put limits on the executive that is elected after the fact... is a smart path to go down at this point in this country.
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Phone lines are open for you. In the next segment, we're actually going to take some of these calls because I think we need to go through a lot of you that are on hold right now who have a lot of conversation, a lot of issues maybe with this whole debate. Let's have some fun. Let's discuss it. Let's get granular, if you will. You can give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. I also don't want to miss this opportunity to tell you about the amazing work of the ACLJ. Today, we're filing a preliminary injunction on behalf of those with pro-life viewpoints who have been silenced by law enforcement. You got to get behind this. Just last Friday, we filed a civil lawsuit in Ohio on behalf of our client. We won in court, getting the criminal charges dismissed, but the law still stands, so we got to go fight now to get the law changed. So many issues in the pro-life world that we still need to fight. Just with the overturning of Dobbs a few years ago doesn't mean the fight for life doesn't continue. It's actually much harder now. Go to ACLJ.org, support the work right now, sign a petition, become a champion, do all those things. We'll be right back with more. Welcome back to Seculo. As I said, phone lines are jammed right now, but they'll open up at 1-800-684-3110. I want to take some calls because a lot of you are on hold about what you say, the auto pin gate, if you will, and whether we feel like it is a necessary fight. I think that is going to be the big question. Let's go to Chris in Virginia. Chris, on line three, you're on the air.
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Hey, how's it going, man? I agree that good talk with you guys. I agree that It's better to be left alone. I believe that President Biden was puppetized by those morons in Congress, those liberal morons who pretty much ran the show, but that we've got bigger fish to fry, such as Comey and those FBI idiots that committed crimes against our country and the president. and some of those liberal judges that are trying to block all the things that we conservatives voted our president in the office to enforce and that we would you know just spend our time better going after those yeah chris just leave president biden yeah i think a lot of americans feel that way you can reopen things that we feel like are of utmost importance is this one of those i would argue not
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Just like when they said we're going to reopen three of the unsolved mysteries, if you will. The one about who brought substances into the White House. I don't care. I don't care. You could tell me it was the President of the United States himself. And I would not care at this point. We have moved on beyond that. Now, do I think having people that are internally leaking documents from the Supreme Court of the United States needs to be investigated? Absolutely. So that's one. I'm four. That's important. That's creating, make sure we have safety within our branches of government. That is what you elected this president to do. You can get caught up in the weeds. You can get caught up in sort of the hate. And look, I think there's a lot of people who have issues with some of even the overall, you know, we've had Elon Musk now wrap up his time at Doge. And I think you could say there's some people who feel like there are some mixed results with that. There were things they wanted cut, that got cut, things they didn't want cut, that got cut, and then vice versa, where it maybe didn't have the impact that they were hoping for. That's okay. They tried. He ran on doing that. And you know what? That's a campaign promise. And you know what? They've done what they could do to try to make that promise. This one... I just don't see it. I just don't feel like it's necessary in the big grand scheme of things.
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That's right. And honestly, to Chris's point that called in and when we talk about some of the bigger issues, and I think that's why the key to like reforming the FBI, rooting out corruption at these agencies is so important. It's forward looking. Many of these things are backward looking and not something that other than buzzy and stirring up conversation online and a headline, I just don't feel like it is the right thing to do. Now, Larry on Rumble, he said, I have a lot of respect for you guys, but your argument is weak. We have to be able to get indictments of many of the people who were pardoned. to let people like Fauci go unpunished as criminal. Now, where I will push back and I understand the frustration, obviously, but the Constitution is not a weak argument. The Constitution, as we laid out about the signatures and also that they can use it for legislation, that's not talking about pardons. Pardons don't require a signature in the way that legislation does under the Constitution. And it's actually pretty open-ended, where it says that the president shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment. That is a very... Very powerful line because the president of the United States has nearly open ended pardon power with no exception except for cases of impeachment because that is the political process and they can't pardon themselves if they were impeached. So I would argue that, yes, I understand the frustration, but it is important to preserve the power of the executive that's in there. People will get pardoned you do not like. Yeah, and there will be another Democrat president likely in our lifetime. And so if there are pardons of people that were politically motivated trials, politically motivated prosecutions of people that were doing the right thing, then... The Democrat comes in and says the president wasn't in the right state of mind. And here's our evidence from news reports. Therefore, no matter what the Constitution says, we're going to be able to undo that. I don't think that is where the United States needs to go, because I think the damage to the country long term. would be so much greater than getting the indictments that we need, that we are wanting in many of the cases where you see injustice. We know that a lot of injustice in this country happened during the Biden administration. It was four years of it. You see everything that happened with how porous the border was. The fact that an individual that attacked people with Molotov cocktails just two days ago came in under that lawlessness. and was able to firebomb people because they are Jewish. It was four years of lawlessness under that administration. So I don't think the right thing to do is to start dismantling powers within the Constitution now. I think it is actually our duty to defend and shore up the power of the Constitution.
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Look, I want to make sure that all voices are heard on here. I'm seeing some of your comments now saying, well, Logan, you're going too far. You're beating a dead horse. You've said this now a million times. We understand. Move on, move on, move on. We've got a lot of calls still coming in. Some on our side, some on the other side. Either way, there's no real sides here. Jerry in Rhode Island, I know you have a different point of view, and that's okay. Jerry, go ahead.
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You know, I've been listening to everything. I kind of see the point of the previous two callers. But having been a member of government, if people understand you take the wide angle snapshot lens and the cost benefit analysis and time allocation of what we have left before the midterms, what on the laundry list do we prioritize? So therefore, I'm kind of landing on what you guys are saying. But however, I do remember the day that Biden got sworn in to the stack of executive orders, which he then could sign. Because Will had said the only thing that needs signed is legislation. What about the executive orders? And somebody in the background saying, hey, Joe, just sign it.
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Yeah, Jerry, we only got two minutes left in this segment before we head to the second half hour, but Will's got it.
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Yeah, I will say executive orders are signed. I'm just saying that they are not required by the Constitution to be signed because executive orders aren't even mentioned in the Constitution.
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Pardons are signed, like you said, to just firm up the paper trail.
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Right, but in theory, based off a very textualist theory of the Constitution, a president could speak a pardon, much like people argue that President Trump could speak the declassification.
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When they said, was he taking declassified documents and all that? Well, he's like, well, in theory, there isn't a... formality always, a constitutional formality to the declassification.
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And this isn't defending President Biden. I mean, like I said, I'm reading the book and we all saw it with our own eyes. He was not fit to be president, but there are also methods within the Constitution, if that is the case, that is the duty of the vice president and the cabinet and the Congress to do, and they did not. They also were derelict in their duty. So we can't start chipping away at the Constitution because people didn't do their job.
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Yeah, there's no forward-looking if you do that. Look, phone lines are still open for you. I'll hear from you. Whether you agree with us, whether you disagree with us, okay. And we're also going to talk about some other topics as well, and Harry Hutchins is going to be joining us in the second half hour about what's going on with President Trump. and Xi Jinping and what's happening in, or no, Xi, and what's happening in China. We're gonna discuss that coming up with Harry Hutchinson. That is Xi Jinping. Xi Jinping? Yeah. I felt like I had to correct myself. You didn't. You nailed it. I know. There you go. I'm smart, Will. Regardless of what the comments say. phone lines are open for you and look the ACLJ hard at work that got you the biggest laugh of the day I don't know if I like that I don't know if I care for that we got a second half hour coming up if you don't get us live on your local radio station find us broadcasting live right now 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time each and every day on ACLJ.org YouTube Rumble however you get your content and of course support the work of the ACLJ if you can ACLJ.org we'll continue to take your calls and comments for the next half hour stay tuned less than a minute break
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keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. If you're just joining us, we're talking about this auto-pin scandal. Look, I think I'm the only one in this room who can say, well, you may have two. You may have just played around with one. Yeah, for sure. I've operated an auto-pin machine. I've seen it in action. And look, I'm talking about the ones from the 90s where there was like, you had to crank it. Not really, you had to crank it. But you had a pedal, and it was all controlled with hydraulics like you were doing the Rock-A-Fire explosion at a showbiz pizza place. Yeah. where you're like, man, this thing's running off of a Macintosh from 1986. It felt very steampunk. It did. Yeah. Hey, put in the comments if you understood Will. You know, I think he's going to actually not like it. If you do. I don't know that I know what I was talking about right there. You felt like you got it right. Yeah. So, okay, we're going to take your calls about this. Do you think this is an important thing to be investigating? Whether Joe Biden, not whether he could use an auto pin. I think the answer to that is yes. Every president for a very long time has used auto pins in some instances. But was he... mentally ability I'm saying it now was his mental ability at the point where using the auto pen could have been used against him what does that look like and I think what we have to look at and go is you know what pardons were pardoned things happen we got to move forward we got to move forward in America there is not much left and I know this sounds scary and I know this sounds like that I'm thinking too short-sighted here there's not much left in a Trump presidency right in the grand scheme of things You're talking about two or three years of actual work that can get done. If something happens in the midterms, you're talking about a year. A year to really get a lot of things done. Is this where you want to spend your time? And I know you said I'm beating a dead horse. I'm seeing the comments saying, Logan, you're talking about this. A lot of people join us at the half hour break. So I got to reiterate a lot of this. So if you're still with us, I appreciate it. But know that that's why we do this. You know, you give a little behind the scenes. Well, 1-800-684-3110. I do want to hear from you. We are going to take some calls and comments in this segment and then towards the end of the show. Actually, just go ahead and do that real quick because there's an ACLJ champion on the phone. Jill in New Jersey. I just looked down and saw. she gets bumped up to the front of the line because she gives on a monthly recurring basis to the ACLJ a little perk I like to personally offer is to get them to the front of the line so Jill you're on the air
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you. Nice talking to you all. I think it definitely it should definitely be pursued because this needs to be exposed because it could and will happen again. Maybe we could put another group or some of the money saved on Doge could go into looking to what happened so everyone knows that what truly happened can happen again. And if we don't, they're going to do it again or maybe the Republicans will try it. It has to be exposed to the American people. Yes, I understand that there's definitely things that are priority. Maybe we could put this somewhere on a back low financial priority, but I think it needs to be investigated and exposed to everyone because no one would believe that this could happen in our country. And it did.
SPEAKER 02 :
Jill, I respect your opinion. I think that you're right in the sense of we don't want this to keep happening over and over again to where people are taking advantage of a president of the United States, potentially for their own political or personal gain. I get that. Totally do. But I also want to look at what the outcome is. And I think Will's concern in this is the outcome and how it can play out for future presidents of the United States and the current president of the United States.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and I feel like the outcome from an investigation, I don't think you'll ever get a smoking gun where they say you have individuals that are like, we 100% were just signing stuff. And he had no idea. Because one, I think they don't want to go to jail. But two, it would be such a small group of people that had that access. And I don't think if you were to ask President Biden, he would ever admit, I had no idea they were doing all this and whatever. Because... I don't think he wants them to then say, undo everything that was done under my administration.
SPEAKER 02 :
The closest thing you'll have is maybe that clip that we just showed during the break with Mike Johnson saying, in a meeting I had with him, he did not recall signing any of the laws that he had put in place. I didn't do that. But again, that's sort of hearsay. It's kind of secondhand. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't think any of that's going to hold up in court or if you had to litigate it through federal court to try and get some of these things undone. That's where I think it's also a distraction.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep. Phone lines are still open. 1-800-684-3110. Next segment, Harry Hutchinson is going to be joining us. If you've been looking for a pivot in conversation, it's coming. Don't worry. Stay on hold if you are on hold, and give us a call if you want to be on the air coming up in the next segment. I'm looking through a lot of your comments, a lot of great comments coming in. I'll keep reading those during the break. Let me know where you're watching from, too. I always appreciate that. And support the work of the ACLJ as we continue our fight for life. This is a great time to do it because we are this week so actively in court that it's hard to cover all of the talking points they have given me here that we need to cover. We'll do that, though, for sure, before the end of the show. Go to ACLJ.org. Do it right now. Back in just a moment. Yes, for those that wanted a pivot in conversation, it's happening now. Don't worry. Okay, we're not going to only spend our time talking about an auto pin. I kind of do, though. I kind of want to today. I mean, I think people should look into them. You should buy one.
SPEAKER 05 :
I already ordered three. Oh, no. I'm not using them for anything official. No, unofficial. Just birthday cards.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, oh, that's nice. Christmas cards? Yeah, I don't like signing those either. Much easier. Yeah, exactly. So, hey, phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. I'm going to take your calls in the next segment, but Harry Hutchinson is joining us in studio right now. We're going to take things over to China as there have been this ongoing struggle right now between, it was a pretty respectful good relationship between President Trump and Xi Jinping for a very long time. Obviously, COVID threw a big wrench in a lot of that. However, then you have tariffs and then you have, hey, we're going to stop funding the universities and allowing new international students to come in. That has thrown their relationship into a bit of a chaotic moment, depending on how you want to look at it politically.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. And what's expected this week is a call between President Trump and Xi Jinping in China. And it's about the trade issue, about the tariffs issue, to try and reset where the United States and China are in that relationship. We know that that was worked out in Geneva with the Treasury Secretary and his Chinese counterparts just over a about a month ago, I believe, where they were able to kind of lay out a framework. And that was actually a big surprise because people didn't expect really anything to come out of that meeting other than just we agree that we will talk again. But they did make some moves in the right direction. But Harry, now we've seen both sides kind of finger pointing about some violations of their agreement. The United States calling out China on some things and then the United States canceling the visas for every member of a university here that is Chinese. But now we have this phone call. What do you think can happen or will maybe happen with this now high level talk between the premier in China and the president of the United States?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I think a number of things are likely to happen. First, it's important to look at what is actually happening on the ground with respect to imports. So the South China News reports that Chinese exporters are absorbing up to 65% of the tariffs imposed by the United States. And the question becomes, what does this mean to U.S. consumers? Well, it means US consumers are escaping most of the inflationary pressure that might otherwise come from US tariffs. But it also means that Chinese exporters are being squeezed, if you will, economically. So that provides an incentive, I think, for the Chinese to complete tariffs. these negotiations with the United States. The second point, which is equally important, is consistent with the fact that China is absorbing the tariff, and that is US prices are flat or coming down. So U.S. inflation is at the lowest level since, I believe, February or April of 2021. So that is absolutely huge news. So I think at the end of the day, the evidence is suggesting that the US is winning the trade war, if you will, with China, which provides an incentive for the Chinese to negotiate. Clearly, they are being stubborn with respect to mineral exports, particularly to India and Europe. What does that do? It means that the U.S. supply chain has been affected with respect to so-called critical minerals as well. So at the end of the day, I expect there will be bumps in the road, but I think we will proceed to an agreement unless, of course, U.S. courts intervene again.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and Professor Hutchison, what's kind of crazy to me is you look at the media that have been saying the tariff war is going to tank the economy. They found every economist at Yale and Harvard and University of Chicago that is just shocked it's going to ruin the economy and set this fear among the American people. And in reality, and I'm not seeing the headlines everywhere across America that this is happening, but the numbers came out over the weekend that the trade deficit of the U.S. has been cut almost in half. It's down 46% from $162 billion in March last year. to 87 billion in april so the trade deficit cut in half as well because of the trade deficit going and being cut in half the second quarter gdp grew so all of the economists that were saying this is going to completely kill the economy and you've seen the stock market going crazy in reality The things that President Trump said he was wanting to happen seem, at least in the short run, to be happening. And instead of that meaning the economy's bad, he's going to chicken out, as they say on tariffs, I think this economic data gives him a much stronger negotiating standpoint with China saying, look, our economy's doing better without all of this trade.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely, and it's important to look back to Trump's first term in office. How did tariffs work out for the U.S. economy back then? Low inflation and economic growth, and to the extent that inflation remains low with core inflation falling, what will likely happen to mortgage interest rates? Mortgage interest rates will likely come down because I think at some point... We can only hope at this point. Yes, the Federal Reserve will have to cut interest rates. Right now, the average 30-year mortgage is still around 6.9%. So that is much too high in light of core inflation... Which is going at a rate of 1.2% on an annual basis. And so I think the Federal Reserve has been very, very slow in actually looking at the economic data. And, Will, I think you're perfectly correct. in terms of how many economists have come up with all of these conclusions about Trump tanking the economy. But it's important to keep in mind one of the first lessons I learned on going to economic school, which is if you laid all of the economists in the world end to end, you would not reach a conclusion.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right. Well, hey, we do have – oh, we still got three minutes left.
SPEAKER 01 :
I know.
SPEAKER 02 :
That was a great zinger there. We got phone lines open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Maybe we want to talk about this, too, because I think you're right. When you have the interest rate situation, that is something that is affecting a lot of people because it's stagnating a lot of the economy as well because a lot of people who would have – purchased a new home would have moved would have upgraded would downgrade would have done something are feeling a bit stuck i was talking to my friend yesterday who lives in knoxville tennessee you know not not nashville but still a very rising area an area that is doing very well and he is completely stuck saying look my family should have uh you know been able to move up in our our neighborhoods we should be able to move up in our house financially i'm doing very well But when you look at the interest rates and you look at what your mortgage payment changes, I mean, legitimately right now, if I was to move, this is me, Logan, if I was to move to a house that is just the same price, just the same price, my mortgage payment, because I bought the house almost 11 years ago now or 10 years ago, would trip at least.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and also, Professor Hutchison, we're seeing for the first time really a record number of the housing market having more sellers than buyers. First time in a long time. And it's almost at a record number. So all of those could be deflationary on the housing market that could, while those that have a ton of equity or bought recently, it may not be the best position. It could end up helping the housing market exponentially if those prices settle a little bit.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely. And I think the Federal Reserve has been very, very slow. If you look at central banks in other countries, they have lowered interest rates and that has brought down mortgage rates. And I think Jerome Paul actually needs to examine the data. And as usual, Donald Trump's instincts on the economy are better than the professional economists out there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, thank you so much, Professor Hutchinson, for joining us. Look, we only got a minute left before we get to the last segment of the show, which is when we take as many calls and comments as we can. We have two lines open right now. So 1-800-684-3110. Maybe we'll talk about China. Maybe we'll talk about Autopengate. We'll open it up to a little bit more topics if there's other things you want. What? I love Autopengate. Autopengate. It's too long. APG. Autopengate. Yeah. Start calling it that. I want to hear from you. 1-800-684-3110. I'm also going to be monitoring some comments as well on YouTube and on Rumble. And I want to thank everyone who watches this show each and every day. Know that it means a lot to us and it means a lot to the ACLJ team. The show is not funded by major sponsors. It is funded by people like you that give on an individual or recurring basis. And we call those ACLJ champions, people that are champions for life and for liberty. And of course, right now we are fighting for life in such an aggressive way that we really need your support. All these cases, all of this show takes immense resources. Can't do it without you. I know it's a hard time for a lot of people, but if you can, please give 1-800-684-3110 to call in. We'll be right back with your comments. All right, we got three lines open for you, fam. Come on, 1-800-684-3110. Give us a call. I want to hear from you. Well, Papa Will over here every minute here. Let's go to Simon, who's calling and watching on the Salem News Channel, which, by the way, we haven't talked about that in a few days. The Salem News Channel, it's a 24-hour network that's available on a lot of different streaming options, including Pluto. It's free. It's on the Salem News Channel website. It is on, I think, Samsung TV a lot. Wherever you get your fast channels, that is where you can find the Salem News Channel. It's a great lineup of hosts, and we are happy to be on there live each and every day. But, Simon, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hi, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to comment about the auto pen. I think that the focus should be on who or what entity hijacked our government. And every policy that was coming out of that Biden administration was detrimental to this country and was trying to destroy our country. And those people should be held accountable.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, Simon, I think that it's an interesting take. I have sort of a question, Will, when you've gone through this book and you're starting to read more about maybe the diminishing issues that were happening with President Biden, does it come across that the people who were involved in this were doing what he was saying, were making kind of nefarious actions that would go against what President Biden's normal thoughts process was? Because, look, we know a lot of people... move to their political party's mainstream talking points or even sometimes to their extreme talking points to try to get voters out. We know Joe Biden, pre-vice president, at least you could say, was not historically the most liberal. He was a liberal Democrat, but he wasn't an extreme liberal. He had a pretty soft thoughts on life. He was one of the anchors of the Hyde Amendment. He is someone who actually had a pretty good Catholic track record. where you may not agree with him on his economical issues, but socially was kind of in the realm of conservatism.
SPEAKER 05 :
So one of the major themes in it that was fascinating to me because Joe Biden wasn't just like he came out of nowhere. He was a career politician. It was well before any of us were born. I think one of the biggest things, and this is kind of what the original sin is referenced to in the title, is that Joe Biden had this almost mythos about himself. Actually, Jake Tapper calls it a family theology. Like they believe so religiously. in the joe biden is the underdog that can overcome even when everyone counts you out and this sense of denial that goes around with that and translates into hubris and so therefore many people were even saying back when he was running the whole he's running from the basement thing uh i i genuinely think that is the only way that, and people are going to hate me for saying this, but, but the, the only way that Joe Biden could have won a presidency was during that time when he didn't have to go campaign. And when they flooded ballots everywhere, because he wasn't up for the job then, but the hubris and the theology that Joe Biden will overcome, that he is the underdog that always wins. He's scrappy. Uh, They knew and he should have known at that time he was not up for the job, but their denial and their belief and their quest for power, it started within the family. And so I don't think it was someone came from the outside and hijacked Joe Biden for that purpose. I think it all began with Joe Biden. And yes, he's responsible for that. And he was the one in that office.
SPEAKER 02 :
Let's go ahead and continue on. Kennedy's calling. California, Kennedy, you're listening on the radio and I appreciate it. Uh, give us a call by the way, you've got time for maybe to pick up a couple more calls. 1-800-684-3110. Before we head to the end of the show, but Kennedy, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
We elected Trump and we elected him to put together a weed whacking administrative team with government corruption. If you don't take out that weed, like you do Bermuda grass aggressively digging the roots out, it'll spread. And this kind of sounds like the Democratic thing of let's move on. Let's just move on. I think we need to address all these issues of corruption.
SPEAKER 05 :
See, here's the thing, though, Kennedy. They are gone. They have been taken out of office. All the people in the executive branch, we won that. We took out that corruption. Those that voted for change. And so I think that's where my mind is, is that, okay, that's been removed. So don't then start to put limits and change the way that subsequent presidents can affect their prior administration, the one that they succeed. I think that is what could do damage. I agree that they did damage to this country and they had bad policies and they are the ones that fueled this anti-Semitism in this country in many ways. And all of those things are awful and we got to fix that. But I don't think that trying to wiggle around and fiddle with what the Constitution says and what is the plain text. I'm a textualist. When I see the president has the power to pardon. I don't see many ways to get around that retroactively. And so I think what you need to do is ensure that you show the strength of the presidency and don't try to chip away at that power so that others can do that to you later.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, let's continue on. Bill in Wyoming. Watch it on ACLJ.org, which is probably the simplest way to do it, by the way, on the ACLJ app or ACLJ.org. It's always there. And look, if something ever happens, like a Rumble feed goes down or YouTube feed goes down, there's always an alternative option. That's at ACLJ.org. And of course, while you're there, you can sign petitions. You can support the work of the ACLJ financially. You can read all the incredible content. Of course, none of that content, as I always say, is behind a paywall. It's because people like you step up. I want people to be able to actually share this content and see it. Bill, you may be our last call of the day. Wyoming. I know you're a long-time caller. Bill, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi, I appreciate you taking my call. I just, maybe I'm wrong or something, but my opinion is I've been hearing nothing but lack of respect of those who are up there. This country, the true history, the laws of the land, as well as respecting the people who actually hired them to represent us towards the rest of the world.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, Bill, I understand the frustration when you're looking at this. I know you said to the call screener that you think exposing the lack of respect for the country and the laws is worth it. I think it's okay to have these discussions, to have these real debates and go back and forth about what's happening so they don't happen again. It's when you start messing with the law.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and to Bill's point, I think that's why all the reporting that's coming out about it, even if it's way too late and then whatever Jake Tapper's reasons are, at least these things are coming out now. And I think the discussion around that is very important. And I think to Bill's point, yeah, we need to get the country to respect the Constitution again. We know that the left doesn't really respect the Constitution and tries in many ways to subvert it. But I think that highlighting this and talking about it is great. I just don't know that the Department of Justice pardon attorney needs to be on his list of to do right now.
SPEAKER 02 :
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In an ever-evolving investment climate, Bill Gunderson's analysis stands out by seamlessly weaving personal experiences with market expertise. Explore the ripple effects of tariff wars, innovations in the energy sector, and emerging tech advancements, including Waymo's AI technology. Gain perspective on global economic negotiations and their significance on individual stocks. This episode offers valuable knowledge for those keen to navigate dynamic investing waters, equipping listeners with tactical market insights for both growth and defense opportunities.
SPEAKER 01 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gunderson.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome to the Tuesday. It is Tuesday, June the 3rd, and it is the live edition of the Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite. Our chartered financial analyst, and we have got, you know, a little bit of green, a little bit of a mixed market here today. We're kind of trying to get some trade deals done. That would be nice. The NASDAQ is up 84 today, which puts that NASDAQ at 19,326. The Dow is down 43 to 42,262. The S&P is up six points. That's a tenth of a percent. And gold, which had just a sensational day yesterday. The gold stocks just broke out yesterday with a vengeance. They're cooling off a little bit today. The 10-year was down. It's down a little bit here. The 10-year is at 4.41. Gold is down a little bit, about a half a percent here this morning. And Bitcoin is up $13.85 to $105,437.85. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show. with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm broadcasting live from the Bay Area here today, the outskirts of the Bay Area today. Barry is back. You're 3,000 miles away, Barry. That's good. I like that. Get you as far away as possible and me as far away as possible, and we get along. Spread thin, right? No, we get along just fine, and I did spend a little time on the water yesterday. I said, look, if you want to catch fish, you've got to get up early. We were on the water by 6 a.m., 6.15 a.m., in an unknown spot on the San Joaquin River that I discovered. uh... and uh... we've got a nice a very nice a striped bass I saw one come out of the water I'm guessing thirty or forty pounds he was feeding I found a spot where they were feeding and uh... my uh... my son's uh... or my Douglas's grandson caught about a seven pound eight pound striped bass nice fight he the thrill on his face was worth the whole trip out here that kid was so he's a good kid he's a he's been in the he's in the reserves in the uh in the uh i think the marines yeah he's a marine uh he uh does security around here really sharp kid and that's the biggest fish he ever caught and i said well you just got to go with bill gunderson and i will lead you to the fish you know it's really the same concept there's a lot of parallels between fishing which i've grown up doing since i was a little boy and the stock market you know those fish are not spread all over hell's half acre they're concentrated in little areas where the bait is and stocks are concentrated in little areas where the economy is thriving where the economy is booming where earnings are growing And those fish, I mean, they are chasing bait. No bait, no fish. That's just a truism. And there's certain areas that create circumstances that make it very good. I found a little tributary that was feeding into the river. The tide was going out, and that's carrying all of that bait, and it's coming out of that tributary into the main body of the river. And those fish are just waiting there. They're in line for the buffet. They're in line for that buffet at the Indian Casino. They're waiting, and they're feeding voraciously. And you've got to throw your bait into that little swirling area of water where that bait is hanging out. And that is the key for success. And, of course, it's the right time of year here. In the Sacramento Delta area, the Striped Bass Fishing, I think, is quite good. We're the only boat on the water. Having the water all to yourself. And you have to break the boat in, right? Yeah, we broke a ranger tug. And my friend Douglas, who helped me invent the app, he now has confidence. You know, I taught him how to use all of his electronics and everything, and he drove, and now he can back out and park that boat in that slip, and everything's good. So it's really a good trip. And I had a good time on Sunday. I figured this is a non-traffic day. Let's go into Santa Clara. I want to see that new stadium. I've spent a lot of time in the Bay Area. I used to service the Bay Area from San Diego from Torrey Pines Securities, which I worked for as an analyst, part-time analyst. Mostly I was a money manager, and I used to visit a lot of these companies up here, and mutual funds and financials. And I've got to say this. This bit about San Francisco being a war zone downtown, no, no. That's been way overblown. I saw it basically as I saw it. 20 years ago and i'm not i'm not exaggerating i mean yes market street's kind of bad and a couple others but i went to scomas for a dinner uh and walked around a little bit downtown at the at the fisherman's wharf area you know and that santa clara area that is just booming there uh you know the great american uh uh you know they have a big uh what is that six flags i guess And all of the companies, all these stocks we own, they're everywhere. Arista Networks is right there. I'm just going down the street. For me, it's like seeing baseball players. Look, there's Harmon Killebrew over there. And then we got out to the Oakland A's. The poor Oakland A's are playing in the Sacramento area. minor league stadium, but I got Dougie a couple good tickets. We sat there and saw the Oakland A's get clobbered by the Minnesota Twins. The Twins look pretty good, I would say, and the A's look horrible, as usual. Just horrible, as usual.
SPEAKER 04 :
Waiting to get to Vegas, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I know the manager of the A's a little bit, Mark Kotze. He kept his boat where we kept our boat down in downtown San Diego, and we used to see him from time to time. uh and the poor guy i mean he has no players with no pitching oh it's just pathetic but still it's like uh what did pete rose said the best day the second best day is something what is it losing a baseball game the best day is winning a baseball game your second best day is losing a baseball game that's so much he loved baseball i still love baseball All right, let's get to the markets here. You know what? There is so much news this morning. I woke up. I always wake up and say, I hope there's going to be some news for the show today. You know, something to feed the striped bass listening to our show today. Plenty of bait to keep them around. Oh, man, I'll tell you what. I don't know if you scanned the news today. There is so much happening today. In AI, in nuclear, in cold, in China, in India. Geopolitical with Russia and Ukraine. Oh, my goodness. Okay, let's begin here. You know, I was very impressed with the market yesterday. Very impressed with the market yesterday. There was a lot of activity in those momentum stocks. Even though the market was up just a little bit, we had a really good day yesterday in a lot of the... you know the leading growth stocks in the world today where where the bait is where their earnings are where the growth is where the economy is just absolutely thriving and man did we have a good day with our gold holdings yes i'm a big tech investor i'm a big growth investor but i've also learned that from time to time there's some weird areas of the market sometimes i remember the steel stocks being strong cement stocks being strong This year is probably one of the best years for gold I've seen in a long time. It seems to be the ultimate hedge against Trump and the trade negotiations.
SPEAKER 04 :
It does. Correlation-wise, on those days, right? Now, correlations can get a little mixed up at other times, but on those days that we've had. You could kind of call it bad tariff news, right? Gold has just shot up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And, you know, we're learning something because we've never had a tariff war like this. So mark this down, you young people, in your book. When you get it in your notes, your market notes, when there's trade wars, buy gold. And also you've got Ukraine striking deep into Russian territory. And I did see that Russia put out a paper today on, look, here's what it would take to settle this thing. So at least that's a start. And, you know, the trade deals, we're expecting India any day now, any day. That's according to the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick. He says we're very close to something we can both work with. China, on the other hand, they had some really weak numbers today. And, you know, I read an opinion, analyst opinion, that China has the upper hand in this trade war. I don't know about that. I don't agree with that assessment. I think China has to make a deal with us. Those ships being unloaded.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, they can cut their nose off. They are in a position to essentially cut your nose off despite your face, right? I mean, there's stuff that we get there that we can't get anywhere else. But if they do that, they're going to have people not working there.
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They get technology from us that they can't get anywhere else, too. Right. There's going to definitely be agreement. To think that this thing's going to carry on forever, like COVID, you know, COVID will last forever. The trade war is not going to last forever. There will be deals. There is a big deal in the nuclear sector. Wow, when we come back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. And our first story comes from the Baltimore area. Meta makes a big deal with Constellation Energy, okay? Microsoft made a deal with them for, I think, I don't know, they bought... They bought a lot of energy in the future, securing it right. And then the U.S. government came in and bought a bunch for Washington, D.C., and now you've got Meta coming in and securing a bunch. I didn't see the terms of the deal, but Constellation CEG is up 4% today, $12.48. And I'm reading here in the Silicon Valley area that they are kind of out of juice for their data centers. They need more energy here. This is not an easy state to turn the spigot on and get more energy either, you know. I see, you know, where we were fishing, obviously there's giant windmills around and there's massive, massive solar farms like I've never seen before here. But as far as nuclear and gas-fired coal plants or coal-fired coal plants, those are your choices. They're hurting. And you've got these big tech stocks like Meta and Microsoft. They're the other one that made a big deal with Constellation Energy. And that stock is having a very nice day. I also got a comment on the Waymo. You know what? I saw them all over. downtown San Francisco, going up the steep hills, negotiating crosswalks. It's kind of weird to see machines running around with nobody in them at times, right? And everything's spinning on it like a little propeller on top, and it's kind of eerie just a little bit. But I would say I'd get in one, no problem. And I saw a lot of people getting out. I talked to a guy and his son. I said, how was it? He says, the only thing I can say is we never got over 20 miles per hour. It's pretty slow. But, you know, I don't see any issues. If they can navigate San Francisco, Barry, which is one of the hardest cities in the world to navigate and drive with the one-way streets. If you've got a clutch. You know, forget it, on those steep hills and everything.
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Yeah, sitting down on Lombard Street, right?
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And maybe the cable cars were a very good forerunner to help with the technology of Waymo, which is owned by Alphabet. And I think now my issue is how much money worth of how much technology is in that Waymo car versus a taxi versus Uber. There's a lot of money in that thing. But we'll see. You know, I mean, the Elon Musk with Tesla, he wants to bring out his cheap version of of the RoboTaxi, and we'll see where it goes. But I definitely feel a whole lot better about it after seeing the Waymos running around all over. downtown san francisco you just hail one boots on the ground it pulls up where you are exactly where you get in nobody to talk to nobody to you know say how the giants doing blah blah blah by the way the giants lost to the padres last night in san francisco one to nothing in the 10th inning So anyways, we've got Waymo going just fine. And now, you know, the other, Phoenix is a big center for it and also Austin, Texas. So it's definitely coming. And then this big, big deal. I'm trying to find the, well, you know what? I mean, they're talking stuff I can't understand. Megawatts and how much they bought for how many years. And the size of the power. Right. But it is a big deal. It's the first deal of its kind in the U.S. with an operating nuclear power plant. Microsoft struck a deal last year involving the Three Mile Island plant in Pennsylvania, which is a 20-year purchase. So anyways, and the nuclear stocks are doing pretty well here today. We also have, as I said, the U.S.-India trade deal not too distant, says U.S., Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. U.S. pushes countries for their best trade offers by Wednesday. Almost like an auction. I want to see where we're at. Give us your best trade offers. That's progress. They're moving forward. The EU's not happy about the steel tariffs. What did he do? He raised them to 50% on European steel coming into the U.S., and they're not happy, and they're going to retaliate. But I think they're working towards something that both sides can work with, can live with. China's manufacturing activity unexpectedly contracted in May amid weak output. I will say the Chinese stocks are not looking very good right now. They need something better than a 30% tariff to survive. I'd hate to be a business right now that buys inventory, that does trade with China. You don't know whether to buy a bunch of stuff from them at this current tariff rate. I would be hesitant to do it. It's not really sustainable. We're not in a sustainable position. And, Barry, that cloud of uncertainty... is continuing to hurt the market. Now, I will tell you an area that's really performing well this year, and that's European defense stocks. And I talked about this ETF. I saw Rheinmetall started a new big venture with South Africa. All these countries now realize that, you know, maybe the United States is not going to come to our aid as much as they did in the past. We're going to have to kind of put up our own defense. And that means a lot of money being spent. I think the UK allocated a few more billion dollars today for a nuclear deterrent. They ordered new submarines. And so one of my, Tuttle, who did the SARC, which is anti-Cathy Wood, he's got this European Defense, which those stocks are hard to buy. It's hard to buy Rheinmetall. But that's the number one ETF in the market today is European Defense. And I think there's still room to move there. Now, you may not be able to buy your conscience offhand. I can't think of it. But it's definitely one of the top ETFs out there. And I'm even thinking of getting a little bit of exposure to it because I don't think it's over. I think there's still going to be a lot of defense spending. It's not like Putin is going to get any less aggressive than he is today, and they've got to kind of pony up and strengthen their own defenses. And this business about the private equity slowdown, Toma Bravo raised $34 billion defying the private equity slowdown. There is a slowdown. There's no question about it. But there's still deals to be made. Elon Musk, his XAI, okay, he's thinking of combining his AI company, which is Grok and XAI, with X itself, which is both privately traded. but he's getting $5 billion in debt financing, double-digit interest rate.
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I heard it was double-digit, yeah.
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Would you invest in Elon Musk for double digits? I'd do that before I'd do Kohl's department stores for sure. Certainly, yes. All right, there's a lot of individual stocks to talk about when we come back, and many of them located right here within driving distance of where I'm at. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. You know, we forget that Elon Musk...
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Look at all the irons in the fire that he has, okay? Yes, he may have lost some popularity with what he did, trying to make government more efficient. Neuralink raises $650 million through Series E funding. This is Neuralink. This is like the least of his companies that he has, right, where they do the implant in the brain and try to give people that are paralyzed or can't move hope and be able to do it through Neuralinks. The boring company, don't forget. Yeah, I haven't heard much about that lately, though. The one that does the holes, yeah. Yes, the tunnels and he thinks going under the ground in L.A. underneath the 405 and on top of the 405, ease that congestion is the way to go. But I see one of the big investors in Neuralink. Now think about this. It's Kathy Woods. How far out in the future, how much risk is there in putting money into Neuralink as an investor? Yes, I hope it works out, but would I invest in it? You talk about a moonshot. But Kathy Woods, if you're buying into her ETF, she's doing stuff like that. She's really putting investors' money at a heck of a lot of risk there by investing in stuff like that. That's just my opinion. Good luck with it, you know. But the guy has so many irons in the fire. It's not even, it's just ridiculous. And I will say this. There's a few Teslas in California. There's a few more Teslas in California than there are in South Carolina. Okay, now I've been, I was in California for 60 years. I'm a veteran. This is my home state. And I still have a lot of pride in California. And the Tesla is by far, the most dominant car that you see here. But there's still plenty of... Combustion engines on the road, but you get down in Santa Clara and into the Silicon Valley, and even in the outskirts, Tesla is king around here. I don't know if sales are holding up, but we'll see. Crowd strike.
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At least holding on to them, right?
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Yes. Crowd strike in focus as Wedbush has greater confidence from recent checks ahead of earnings, and I would just say this about that. We've said that in the semiconductor sector, as far as investing goes, for me, NVIDIA is really the best and really the only one that I have any exposure to right now because they're so far ahead of everybody else, number one. Palantir by far is the best. That was my top pick for 2025. You can go back and look at my interview at the NASDAQ, and it's certainly done well. I would say my number two pick in the software sector, and we back that up with an investment, and it is CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike's going to report earnings. Let me look at the date on when they report earnings. Some of these stocks are funny. 6-3. Oh, that's today. Today, yeah.
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I think it's after the close, yeah.
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And I think the last time they reported, they had like an issue and it sold off. And it went from 450 down to 300.
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Well, those software stocks can be finicky in the earnings, right?
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Yes.
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In terms of how the market reacts to it. You can blow out earnings and still...
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But I would say it's best of class, in my opinion. I would rank Palo Alto Networks and Zscaler and a lot of these other ones down the line a little. I think that CrowdStrike is still the best of class there, and it's hitting a new all-time high today. Not a bad idea at $119 billion that somebody had. Now, CrowdStrike, they're in Austin, Texas. And, of course, a lot of companies, it's definitely true, a lot of the tech companies have moved their headquarters. Austin is definitely becoming the second biggest hot spot, I would say. And then maybe back east, you know, Massachusetts is a pretty big hot spot for tech. But who would have ever thought Austin, Texas, you know, I think of brisket and I think of steers. You've got some good brisket. Yeah. They got a good beef rib. Yes, and now it's becoming the tech center of America, one of them, doing just quite well. But Wedbush is saying they think they have greater confidence from recent checks ahead of earnings. By the way, I don't know if you noticed, I was watching the Indianapolis 500. Wedbush actually had a car. co-sponsors there were a few real sponsors wedbush had a car in the indy 500 okay raytheon yes i know it's the bay area and we don't talk about weapons and stuff like that and become you masters of war by bob dylan and whatnot but it's look it's defense it's not offense it's defense And Raytheon is getting some big, big, big contracts. I would say it's best of class in the aerospace defense industry. By the way, Boeing's been breaking out, too, to new 52-week highs. Boeing seems to be cooking on all cylinders these days. But Raytheon gets a $1.1 billion U.S. Navy contract modification contract. Here's another stock for data center that I've been showing up on my radar, or should I say LIDAR, Eaton Company. Eaton and Siemens Energy, S-I-E-G-Y, team up to accelerate delivery of new data center capacity. uh... that's a good combination there they're looking for faster data center construction and deployment and siemens energy out of germany definitely a player there s i e g y uh... and of course eaton etn has been showing up in some of my screens here recently eaton is also a dividend payer they're kind of uh... eaton is one of those companies that moved to ireland Remember the mass migration?
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The old reverse merger, right?
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Now, they didn't go for the beer and the golf, right?
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What did they go there for, Barry?
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Taxes, yes.
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They went there for taxes. And then remember Jazz Pharmaceutical was another one that did that little move. Didn't they call it a reverse merger or something like that?
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Yeah, something strange. But Ireland opened the doors to a lot of companies with very favorable tax treatment, and a lot of them took the bait and went. I would say another one here that has caught my eye, I think it's kind of a favorite of the Reddit crowd. It's one of these little, I mean, you know how GameStop took a storm and then another one come along, AMC Entertainment, and they came up with the ApeCoin and all kinds of weird stuff. I think this Hims and Hers is in that category. Of course, Hims and Hers has now got a deal with Lilly to provide ZepBound. I think that's a pretty good little stock, that Hims and Hers, because I think even though it's expensive, it's like 60 times forward earnings right now, it does have triple-digit growth. And it does seem to have kind of the Reddit crowd behind it pushing it. And it has a user base.
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I mean, you had all these people who already were getting, say, the compounded version and hims and hers and so on, other things before that. And now they can potentially do it legally within Reddit. with the partner, right? And so they have the customer list, right, really is where the value is and the way that folks, I guess, order that stuff to their door.
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It's another one, too, that is headquartered out here in the Bay Area. It's headquartered in San Francisco. Market cap $13 billion. Online health care. it's a big deal. You know, we made a lot of money in Teladoc. We sold it at 210, and now Teladoc's a single-digit stock, so it has sold off. It's still highly competitive. You have to kind of have a niche. And I think that hims and hers has got a few. And it's a pretty good little stock right now. Hims and hers is going, you know, here's the news on it. They're going to acquire a European digital health platform, Zava, in a global expansion drive. So they are going to expand outside of the U.S. with their telehealth and start the whole thing up in Europe. So that becomes quite a good growth prospect. The strategic moves expected to expand the company's presence in the U.K., Germany, France, etc., So we'll keep our eye on that. That would fit in like the emerging growth portfolio. This is not Merck. It's not a big biotech. This is down the line a ways in that emerging growth portfolio, but they're profitable. And all of a sudden, they've got triple-digit earnings growth. So we'll keep our eye on HIMSS, and it may show up. We have owned it in the past. But I like that European move they're making. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of the Best Docs Now show. Well, two weeks from today, I will be on the other side of the country. That's one of the beauties of this business, getting to travel around a little bit. We'll be in Lakewood Ranch, Florida, which is about as far away from... The Bay Area, as you can possibly get, we will be there on Tuesday and Wednesday, June 17th and 18th at the Evan Hotel. I've stayed there before. Kind of a funky place, but it's kind of funky in a good way. I will teach a workshop at the Evan Hotel on Tuesday night from 7 to 8.30 p.m. And you know what? I expect a good crowd. Who knows? Maybe no one will show up. Maybe I've worn out my wallet. I don't think I have. I think we're still fine in Lakewood Ranch. We'll be there. And if you want to – and it's a rare opportunity here for me in a teaching environment and try to tell a little bit about some of what I've learned in almost 30 years in the industry. But I mostly talk about what's hot now. That's what everybody wants, and that's what I want too. But we'll also be available for private one-hour meetings Tuesday and Wednesday between the hours of 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Look at that. We lay ourselves on the line. Open that schedule up. Yep. The whole Gunderson team will be there. If you want to book a seat to the workshop or a personal appointment with us, give Edie a call at 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. And as far as the Bay Area goes, probably about two months out. I've got to now pick a date. I definitely know where I'm going to do it. We'll be in the Santa Clara area at one of those big hotels. I saw a Marriott. I saw a Hilton. I saw a Hyatt Regency. Any one of them will do. Barry's trying to get the Motel 6. I said, nah, you know what? I don't think so. We'll do it at a nice place for... But that's a beautiful area. That is just booming. That is gorgeous. We have listeners that worked at the Intel plant. The stadium stands there now, right? The San Francisco 49ers stadium is where the Intel plant. Was Intel kicked out of the Dow? Doesn't NVIDIA stand in the Dow where Intel once stood?
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I think they listened to you on that one.
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Yes, and between now and the Bay Area, we've got to hit Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. Then we've got to work in Minnesota. I saw your Minnesota Twins last night. Little Joe Ryan on the mound. He's a pretty good little pitcher, not bad. Funny guy. He swings his arms and this and that. Every pitcher has got his own little deal. So anyways, Lakewood Ranch is next. Two weeks from today, we will be down there for two days. And we're going to visit some people that we visited last time. And Edie is busy making the list and checking it twice on our appointments there that we're going to meet with. And that Tuesday night, 7 to 8, 30 p.m., I'll be teaching. We always have a lot of fun at the workshops. We have a little drawing for different prizes and stuff. It's just a lot of fun to interact with real people. Instead of talking into headphones, staring at a wall on the radio, you know, like we normally do. And the whole team will be there. Okay, now, a few other stocks in the news today. We've talked about most of the big stories. I think the biggest story, if you missed it, was the deal that Meta did with Constellation Energy, CEG.
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And there's this interesting... We hold that in our value fund. And it's an interest, and we own Meta as well.
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Yes, one of our biggest positions is Meta. But this issue with data center and needing juice to run them, it's a real deal.
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Well, it's the first deal with a working, I was reading, it's the first deal of its kind with a working power plant. It's similar to the Microsoft deal in terms of them firing up Three Mile Island again, but Yes, which isn't working. Of course, that's one that's not working, right? Right. And they were talking. What I wanted to see is I saw how much this particular power plant generates on an annual basis, and I wanted to look and see how much power they were buying, right? It's like they're essentially buying half of the power for 20 years that it generates.
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Forget the people around there. tough meta needs it zuckerberg you got to pay a check to zuckerberg he's going to sell the energy i think that i think there's going to be a time when there's going to be a crunch and a scramble as to who gets the energy do we really want to use our energy running data centers or do we want to use it in our factories in our homes to stay warm and all this and that i i think there's a I think there's a problem coming ahead, and it needs to be addressed now. And it's already showing up here in the Bay Area, in the Silicon Valley, which I want to mention one other one here that is just booming today. We've owned this in the past. It's right down there where I was, Zscaler, ZS. Zscaler is breaking out to a new all-time high today. Think of all of the $40 and $50 and $100 billion companies with these brand new buildings in Santa Clara. What a booming area. I mean, California is pretty blessed. You go an hour inland and you have the richest farmland anywhere. You know, they're growing some of the best rice in the world right here in the Sacramento area, which it's all rice fields now, which wasn't that way when I was growing up. It was grapes and it was peaches and plums and all kinds of melons and whatnot. Almonds, obviously. But rice is a big, big... Very big crop now in California. And, of course, that's what made, at one time, the richest state in the country was South Carolina in the early days because of the Carolina gold rice.
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Yeah, that Carolina gold rice. I mean, you try to buy a bag of that around here, it's pretty pricey.
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Yeah. It's not your everyday rice. I think people eating sushi has driven up. They grow quality sushi-grade rice here. in California. Pretty cool to see. But Zscaler, we'll go from Rice to ZS. That thing is popping today. They have a new AI suite to prevent attacks and safeguard sensitive data. uh i wish i would have held on to my zs a little longer uh but it is having a huge huge day wow there's the music already okay well i'm gonna say the top thing to do today on your action list if you're in the lakewood ranch area is call ed at 855-611-BEST to reserve a seat to the workshop or just book an appointment with us while we're there 855-611-BEST to get the newsletter, the trades, everything. Go to GundersenCapital.com and get a free four-week trial. Have a great day, everybody.
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And it is unbelievable, but Colorado is number two in this lineup. And it says violent crime per crime rate is 470 per 100,000 people. Property crime rate is 2,879 per 100,000 people. And Colorado is number two, right behind New Mexico. And right behind Colorado is Louisiana. I wonder, I just can't believe that this has happened before. to this beautiful state that I love, but it's because of these progressive policies. It's because of the elections, the results of these elections. And we're going to be talking tomorrow with Mark Cook, who is a cybersecurity expert, regarding this information that's been uncovered regarding the cast vote record changes in Arapahoe County, Colorado. And as I've looked at this and as you all know, I watch this pretty extensively and I'm concerned that people have gotten just tired of all of this conversations about elections and in doing so are are not going to be pushing elections. to get the action that we need. And I think what we need is Pam Bondi to look into this. And I think that we need to see who was behind this. And I think criminal charges need to be filed on this. So stay tuned. That will happen tomorrow and then on Friday we'll be talking with Walter Doherty, I think it's Friday, also regarding the Arapahoe County CASFOS record change, which is important that we take a look at that. Some other headlines. Lauren Boebert and Gabe Evans, congresswoman and congressman from Colorado, are touting the benefits of the big, beautiful bill. And it says that they're defending Trump's tax cuts and the spending bill. And I love the tax cuts. I'm still very concerned about the amount of money. That we are spending here. And so I am concerned about that. I've not looked in depth to this big, beautiful bill. But it says, Gabe Evans said, there's a lot of good in this bill. Unfortunately, that good is being lost because a lot of blatant fear mongering is occurring around the bill. And one of the fear-mongering things is that Medicaid is being cut. And Evans explained that Medicaid is not being cut, but waste, fraud, abuse, improper payments, that is what we are eliminating. And absolutely, that's what needs to happen. And that was by Lauren Boebert. So there's that. Next thing, this began yesterday here in Denver. And this is from Colorado Politics. And this is the trial, Mike Lindell, a defamation trial where he was, it says, my pillow CEO, Mike Lindell, has decided to take the stand in his own defense in what the staunch MAGA supporter has coined the trial of the century. And the trial started yesterday morning with jury selection at Denver's Alfred A. Araj United States Courthouse. Opening statements are expected to be 30 minutes long. And they expect this to be a two-week trial. The judge on this is Nina Wang, and this is from a defamation lawsuit filed in 2022 by Eric Coomer, a former Dominion Voting Systems employee who alleges that Lindell accused him of rigging the 2020 election against President Trump during an Antifa conference call. Says Lindell, who wants to see an end to the voting machines in favor of paper ballots in U.S. elections, told Rolling Stone that he's a former crack addict who has nothing to hide. And Coomer, a Colorado resident who handled election security, said, for Dominion is suing Lindell and two of his companies, MyPillow Inc. and Frank Speech LLC, which is now known as Lindell TV, for an undisclosed amount of money for allegedly ruining his reputation and causing him emotional distress when he claimed that Coomer threw the 2020 election. So stay tuned. We'll be watching what's happening with that trial as well. And then the last thing, denver i cannot believe this but denver the city council approves 812 million dollars for hotel housing and horses at the national westerns and this is going to be paid for from tourism fees so of course this is getting around to tabor colorado's taxpayers bill of rights And I think the city of Denver needs to be focusing on making Denver safer versus spending a whole bunch more money. And so we will continue the discussions. And we've got a great show planned for you. And this happens because of our great sponsors and the Roger Maggett State Farm Insurance team. knows that life can be challenging, but they think that they can help you with your insurance coverage to make sure that you have what you need. If you bundle your insurance together, you might be able to save some money. And to find out, give them a call, 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mannion team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. And financial freedom starts with the right guide. And MidFinancial Strategies is here to help. As an independent firm with over 25 years of experience and the credentials of an accredited investment fiduciary, they offer advice that's focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy-first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms. with clarity, confidence, and control. So call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. Your path to independent financial confidence. Again, that number is 303-285-3080. And on the line with me is Mike Rolick. He is a citizen activist, a watchdog on a lot that's happening both at the local county and state level governments here in Colorado. And we want to talk about this House Bill 1313. So, Mike Rolick, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning, Kim. How are you doing? Good.
SPEAKER 03 :
I am doing well, and this is one that we did not take a strong look at at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It's pretty complicated. The sponsors on it are all Democrats, Representative Mandy Lindsey, Senator Kyle Mullica, and Senator Nick Hendrickson. So tell us, what's going on with this?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, in 2023, as Natalie had talked about last week... They tried to pass a very large bill to give a lot of zoning reforms and a lot of power to the state that got denied. And then it was kind of parsed up. And HB 1313 was one of those pieces where they're trying to create transit oriented communities and transit oriented developments. They look at the rail stations that would support commuter rail, and they would look at RTD or other bus lines that would support 15 minute service between a set of normal business hours. And if that area falls within one of those definitions, then the density is now forced between 15 to 40 dwelling units per acre. So the city don't have a whole lot of say anymore. It doesn't protect the historic districts much either. What the cities can do or the counties can also can do is petition that they don't have enough water resources to And then they'd have to show a government board that they couldn't build all this density because of water scarcity. And that's about it. So the cities have said, well, no, zoning is a matter of local concern as protected by the Colorado Constitution. They have formed a lawsuit. Arvada has joined with Westminster, Lafayette, Glendale, Aurora, and Greenwood Village. And it is looking at basically the home rule laws in the Colorado Constitution and also the power of referendum. It's pretty interesting stuff, but it's pretty intricate as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it is, and I'm a bit surprised because some of these jurisdictions that you mentioned, from a political standpoint, they typically have leaned to the left to support what's happened down at the legislature, I would say. So this is really an interesting development.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would actually contend that I saw some notable – elected figures from the local realm in 2024 at the Capitol against these things and in support of their private citizens, which I found to be quite interesting that there was almost a fracturing between the state level and the local level when it came to the, well, both parties possibly, but definitely the Democrat Party where You know, even if Arvada wants density, say, they want to decide where the density goes and where it doesn't go. So it was actually interesting to see the divergent opinion of saying, well, gosh, even if we want to make a 40 dwelling unit per acre infill development, They wanted the hands-on approach. They want the citizens to be involved. The citizens have the power of the referendum to help change the land development code or say the land development code is no good, that they can do that kind of thing. And they have the power of the Rule 106 lawsuit as well. So they were actually really in favor of more hands-on local control. Even if the density happened in certain places, they didn't want it forced upon them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, most people, we don't really like things being forced, although at the local level, then we have seen those in elected office that have used force in that particular arena regarding these transit-oriented developments. So, Mike Rolick, there has been this movement, and even when I was on city council 2012 to 2016, many of these local jurisdictions had really been pushing these transit-orientated developments where people would live in the upper levels of, say, a four- or five-story apartment building and that they would have retail on the bottom. I'm not sure that from an economic standpoint that that's worked out great up and down the corridor. But I continue to see this doubling down. We have empty trains and people really would like to have their cars. And you're seeing, again, limiting the number of spots, making it more and more difficult for people to live in these apartment buildings and have a vehicle. And I think the powers that be, they think if they make it really difficult for people to be able to drive their cars, then people are going to give up on their cars. And they want to push the minions into these apartment buildings and ride around on trains and buses and bicycles. And we continue to see that doubling down on that in Colorado, even though I'd say I contend that people don't want to be forced to do that. Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 11 :
I would also agree. The second part of this lawsuit is HB 241304. And that is to limit the city's ability to command a minimum parking requirement for cars, although they could for bicycles. So the lawsuit here says about 24-13-04, the second part, that would be the parking, prohibits cities from requiring sufficient parking to avoid adverse impacts from dense new development or redevelopment and retrospectively precludes enforcement of parking requirements in existing land use approvals and development agreements. So yeah, the cities, Westminster, Nevada, Lafayette, Glendale, places like that, they say, you know what, there might be areas where even if density fits, we need the parking because we don't really have effective mass transit. So yeah, no, I would completely agree that this is becoming a real large problem. You know, I like to call it the unparked at this point. You know, you think about people who might work a second shift at a restaurant to make ends meet. Even if you have good bus service until 8 p.m., if the restaurant closes at 10, you do your side work, you clean up, you're driving home at 11, so what are you forced to park six, seven blocks away and walk that far? You've got no carports, you've got potential for hail damage, you've got potential for break-ins, and if there's bad characters between your car and your home, you've got other dangers there, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, and let's see, I wanted to just verify that bill number on the parking. I think the 1304 is extension of restitution deadlines. So was that a different year?
SPEAKER 11 :
24, 1304. So yeah, it was the same year as 1313 went through. So that might be the discrepancy there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, great. Thanks for the clarification on that. No problem. So Mike Rolick, Colorado used to be sold to millennials as a great place to go to enjoy the mountains, to hike, to ski, to snowboard. And by having people live in apartments without a vehicle, how are young people supposed to get up to the mountains to enjoy this Colorado lifestyle that's been sold to them?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know if that's really thought through. They've been talking about the Colorado Mountain Rail. They're trying to have a rail line that goes from Denver to through Arvada, through Winter Park, and then take the spur that goes all the way to Steamboat and Craig. But still, I question when you get to Steamboat, how do you get around? Are you doing Uber, shared cars, what have you? It's still, when you're talking about ski gear and what have you, yeah, they're going to be quite the problem.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and you can't get a family really on a ski train. I looked at some, I think Corey Gaines had an article regarding the ski train, and the ridership was up, but it was so minute that it really, they could give percentages that there were more riders. But compared to people getting to the mountains via their vehicles, I don't think it was even 1%. So this is really all about control, controlling people's lifestyles and just control of everyday people. And this whole 15-minute city thing, which the World Economic Forum has said that they want the regular everyday people to only live within 15 minutes of everything that they need. Americans have loved their freedom of mobility, their freedom to go where they want to when they want to. But Colorado is totally doubling down on this control of people's lives. And they're doing it, as you mentioned, through the parking restrictions and also the zoning. And you mentioned water. Just think about how much water a multi-story building, apartment building would use versus single-family homes. And so this is another thing. They talk about water all the time, but they only use water when they want to try to control people's lives. And gosh, what do you see as the end game on all this, Mike Rolick?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it is interesting. The end game is, I believe, local control in these matters is better. It is in the It is more to our freedom to be able to talk to our local elected representatives about a specific property instead of about a top-down control. So I would ask that even if you're not in Westminster, Nevada, Lafayette, Glendale, Greenwood Village, and Aurora, that you maybe write a letter of support or call on them and say, thanks for taking this brave move. There is action to take. ask these cities to withdraw as well, and it's coming from the YIMBY movement. So this is not just them making a decision at the city level and then everybody supporting it. There's a lot of opposition towards this lawsuit for HB 1313 and 1304.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, and those were passed in 2024, correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and the YIMBY movement being the Yes in My Backyard movement.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Mike Rolick, thank you for keeping us so informed on things that are happening, not only down at the state capitol, but on the local level as well. And we've got to understand this. We've got to push back on these 15-minute cities. And they are doubling down on this. And I'm glad that some of these jurisdictions are stepping forward to file lawsuits against this. So thanks again, Mike Rolick. And these are very important discussions. And we have all of them because of our sponsors. And We're all about freedom. If people want to live in an apartment building, again, it has to be from an economic standpoint. These apartment buildings, many of them have been subsidized through a variety of different either state or local governments. And it could be streamlining permitting. It could be favorable financing from the federal government. And that is not the way it's supposed to be. Government is not supposed to be picking winners and losers. If things can stand on their own two feet from an economic standpoint, that's great. But we need to make sure that we are not treating people differently, that we are treating them equally. And this whole housing thing is has been really pushed is really they're doubling down on this on these 15 minute cities. And we have to really push back on that. And one of the things is home ownership. And people, I think, still would like to have their own home. And it should be a free choice to be able to do that. And if you're going to buy or sell a home, you want to have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Father's Day is right around the corner, and a great gift would be to buy a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service at the USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden. And you'll receive a beautiful certificate that your father or your husband can actually put out, display, to honor their military service. So to get more information about that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And there is a question that is going to be, well, it is a ballot question that is a special election. Ballots were mailed yesterday. The election is due on June 24th and it's regarding whether or not Douglas County should become a home rule county. And I like to have both sides of the issue. And we had Commissioner George Thiel on a week or so ago, who is a proponent of this. And David Iyer was against the question. And former County Commissioner Laura Thomas reached out and said there were things that she'd like to clarify here. And so she's on the line. I did offer to Commissioner Teal to have him on again, but they are at their big county commissioner annual meeting. So, Laura Thomas, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Kim, for this opportunity to be on. I think it's important to set the record straight and for people to understand the truth about this election that's going to happen in three short weeks. So, again, thank you for this opportunity.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and as I was just talking with Mike Rolick regarding some of these home rule municipalities suing the state of Colorado regarding parking, forced parking minimums or maximums, and also density, that sounds somewhat attractive to have home rule. So is there a difference between municipalities and counties and home rule?
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you for bringing that up, Kim. You're absolutely right. There is a huge difference between what a municipal home rule is and what a county home rule is. And I think that's reflective in the numbers in that almost every single municipality in the state of Colorado is home rule. Yet out of 64 counties in the state, only two counties that are just counties are home rule. And people always say, well, Broomfield and Denver are home rule. They are because they are cities. And they get to enjoy the differences that a municipality enjoys over what a county does. So when it comes to home rule, the only thing that a county can do is change the structure of their government. And when you get your ballot, question 1A is specifically going to say, Do you want to study the structure and organization of your county? It's not going to say, do you want to pick, like a cafeteria, what state laws you want to just not follow?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, and I've received some flyers in the mail indicating that if Douglas County became home rule, that Douglas County could push back on many of the onerous pieces of legislation that were passed down at the Statehouse. So what's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 06 :
So are you talking about the 10-1⁄2 by 12-inch green and white flyer that lists four things? One of them is shield against government overreach.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah. That's just a bold face like him. There are no state laws that we are going to push back on. And in fact, I stayed up last night and did a newsletter to specifically point out that there was a bill involving immigration that the governor signed just two weeks ago. It's Senate Bill 25276. And in this bill, they have specifically written in that a county includes home rule counties and municipalities include home rule municipalities. So the legislature has been watching what's been going on here in Douglas County, and now they are specifically enumerating in these bills that these bills include home rule counties. So here's what's going to happen, Kim. If this passes, We're working hard to make sure this does not pass because this has been dumped on the voters with not enough time to understand what it means. But should it pass, 21 people are going to be elected to write the charter. And so a majority of that is 11. So 11 people will be writing the charter that will be our government going into the future. And they can write things and they're like, we are not going to follow any immigration laws. We are not going to follow any gun control laws. And we are going to end up in court battle after court battle after court battle because home rule does not allow us to pick and choose what state laws we want to follow. So that's just a bold-faced lie. I have been challenging people on Facebook, in person, please tell me one law here that we can opt out of. Just one. Just give me one. And even Weld County that we're told all the time, this is a great home rule county. In the newsletter I did last night, I included a Facebook post that the sheriff put in about a law that goes into effect July 1st that is about what you need to do now to get your concealed carry permits. So even in Weld County, they are following all these gun control laws because they cannot opt out of state laws.
SPEAKER 03 :
But it seems to me that Douglas County has stood against and was very creative regarding the sanctuary city policies, if I remember right. It was something regarding if a bus came to Douglas County that was unscheduled, that Douglas County would say, no, you can't have people disembark or something. So there were some creative things that I thought occurred at Douglas County.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I was part of the commission when we approved that law. And there was no state law that we were superseding by doing that. We were saying that if a bus just comes in and drops off a bunch of people, that's going to be a crime here in Douglas County. So that was something we could do that did not supersede a state law.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Now, I'm looking at apparently there's 47 things that a home rule county can do. And so let's talk a little bit about that. And And because I'm a little concerned, one of the things that people have mentioned that may be an issue that may be coming up is water. So let's talk a little bit about water.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so you were talking about state law 30-35-201. And let's just scroll down on that lot to number 18. Number 18 says counties may purchase water rights. To purchase water and water rights for the purpose of supplying counties and the inhabitants thereof with water, when deemed necessary and proper, the governing body of a county may purchase and hold the lands with which said water rights is connected or whether the same is within or beyond the corporate limits thereof. And so I have heard Kevin Van Winkle, a county commissioner, say over and over, nothing that we are doing here applies outside the boundary lines of Douglas County. Well, let's read number 18 that I just talked about. What this would allow the county commissioners to do is to buy land with water rights outside of the boundary lines of Douglas County. If we scroll down to number 28 of that same law, it says to supply water from their water systems to consumers outside of the county and to collect thereof such charges upon such conditions and upon such limitations as the county may impose by ordinance. So what I just read says that Douglas County could supply water to outside consumers. Douglas County has no water customers at this time. But these things that are hidden in here will absolutely give the county commissioners the ability to play in the water arena. I have heard George Thiel on another radio station say that this would allow the county commissioners to consolidate water in Douglas County and the commissioners would be able to help other districts that are struggling with water right now. This is just not authority. At this point, I think we want to be giving our county commissioners without a lot more study to understand exactly what this means. And when you talk about water, you need to consider how much it costs. And it's M with millions and B with billions that we're talking about. The county budget right now is about $600 million with an M.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, so Laura Thomas, let's go to break. I'm talking with former Douglas County Commissioner Laura Thomas. We're talking about this home rule question. And I like to be fair and show both sides. And we had Commissioner Thiel on a little over a week ago. And so I want to really delve into this. I think I'm well, we'll talk about it when we come back. These are such important discussions and they happen because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, you want to reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values. They are located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk, focused on these foundational principles of America of honor, integrity and patriotism. The center is nonpolitical, nonpartisan, but just focus on those foundational principles and check that out. The website is AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And on the line with me is former Douglas County Commissioner Laura Thomas. We're talking about this home rule, a special election, which the ballots were mailed out yesterday. They're due back on the 24th. And Laura, this came in on the text line. One of our listeners said, if counties can't opt out of state laws, how can polis opt out of federal laws? I think that's an excellent question there. Yeah. Laura Thomas, I think what I'm I'm uncomfortable. I'm not sure that I what I think about this home rules question, but I am concerned about the compressed timeline. It seemed like it's just kind of been sprung upon the people of Douglas County. And I can tell with the mailers that have been sent out, and also my understanding is there's polling that's been conducted regarding this question. That means that there is money behind this. So I'm concerned about the compressed timeline, and I guess that's one of my main concerns on it, Laura Thomas.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think you're very wise to be concerned about this because we have evidence that the commissioners were meeting behind closed doors for a couple of months before they sprung this home rule ballot question on the voters on March 25th. And we have evidence that there are mail pieces and other literature coming out that we know the commissioners were working on a week before we even knew what was going on. So this was carefully planned. It's well financed. There are three different committees all called yes on local control. One is a C4 that we will never know who the donors are. One is an independent expenditure committee that is supporting the 21 handpicked candidates for the commission. And the donors for that will not be known to the public until November 3rd. Today is the reporting day for the third yes on local control committee. So by midnight tonight, we may know who some of the donors are. It's possible that they will just transfer money from the C4 into this fund. So, again, we might not know who is funding this. But this slick mailer that we got last week, depending on how many people it went to, it's very, very expensive, having done mail myself for 10 years.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and why the hurry? I think that is reasonable people are saying now, why the hurry on this? And it does cost money to conduct a special election.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's going to cost the taxpayers $500,000 because the commissioners rushed to put this on a ballot this month. And look, it's June. Kids are getting out of school. People are going on vacation. People are not paying attention to this, so this is going to be a low voter turnout. It just appears to me, having been doing politics and campaigns actually for 20 years I've been involved in this, this was carefully managed and maneuvered from my position to get this through very quickly. And I think what happened is last week, this is part of it, Last week, the commissioners went to the school board and said things like, under home rule, we can take over all of the school parcels that have been set aside by developers. And Abe Layden indicated that he wants to put entryway technology, metal detectors in all the schools at the expense of the school district. And so now a lot of the teachers and the school foundations, the community that's involved in the schools, have gotten very riled up. And they are coming out hard against this. You also talked about polling. There was a survey that went out by text that had 25 different questions. And I think that we are going to see literature coming out that focuses on what that survey told people. But the shining star in all of this is the county itself did a poll. Every two years, the commissioners pay a scientific company to do polling, and they put a question on there about home rule. And this month, 54% of the people taking that survey said they were opposed to home rule. Only 44% support it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, now this question came in on the text line. It says, if a home rule municipality in a home rule county... can bargain for more water for that district, wouldn't that be a good thing? Because water is so important.
SPEAKER 06 :
And so who is going to pay for that water, Kim? In Douglas County right now, we are set up with many districts, like Castle Rock Water, Parker Water, Highlands Ranch Water. And these districts have been in place for 40, 45 years. They have sold bonds, and the rate payers who are using that water are paying for that. If we move that over to a county commissioner responsibility, the cost is going to go with that. And I'm not sure that that is the role of county government to be supplying water when we have districts that are set up to do water with elected boards to oversee that already. I guess what I'm saying, Kim, is what's broken.
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Well, and, okay, now, and water in the west, and this is a much bigger issue, and I've had Greg Walter on, we've talked about it, and the water compact of the upper basin states having to send water down the Colorado to the lower basin states. And California, I think, has a whole bunch of water on their western seaboard, that I think if they got serious about desalination of water, that would reduce demands all the way up to Colorado. And I think that we need to have people that are looking at bigger and bigger solutions to water versus just maybe purchasing water from rural Colorado to... to supply these needs, which these needs also, these apartment buildings are being really pushed upon the people of Colorado via, as we talked with Mike Rollick in the previous hour or previous segment regarding this insatiable desire by PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interests of parties to get regular people into these rental apartment units. And And those units use a lot of water, Laura Thomas.
SPEAKER 06 :
And so, Kim, that is why we need to really let our water districts do what they do best. I would suggest that you have Merlin Klotz on from the Parker Water and Sanitation District to talk about a fabulous project that they are working on right now. They've been working on it for years with the Platte Valley up in Logan County. There is more water leaving the state of Colorado and the Platte River going into Nebraska than is required by compact. And so Parker Water is going to build another reservoir in Logan County so that that excess water gets stored in that reservoir. Parker Water already bought water rights from Logan County farmers over 20 years ago. That way the water can come here that Parker Water bought from the farmers and then the farmers can use the water from that reservoir, that excess water, for their crops. The farmers are partnering with Parker Water on this, and this is another reason, Kim, why county commissioners should not get involved in the water business. Let the water people that do water and do it well keep doing it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. We have a minute left, Laura Thomas. And the question on the ballot will be, should Douglas County become a home rule county? And then people would be electing these different commissioners to write the charter. And either way, people need to vote for these people. And I know a number of the names on those people that I respect, but I still am just very concerned with the compressed timeline on this. I think a lot of people want more information. Your final thought on this, Commissioner Thomas. Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 06 :
My final thought is we do not know enough about this to put the future of our county at risk. Just like you've said, Kim, not enough time. I urge everyone to vote no on this. And do not vote for anybody that is a puppet who has been chosen by the commissioners because it only is going to take 11 people to write the future of our county. I am running for a charter commission position in Highlands Ranch because I know how government works. But again, I'm asking everyone, please vote no on home rule for Douglas County.
SPEAKER 03 :
OK, Laura Thomas, thank you so much. And again, I really appreciate you sharing your perspective on this home rule ballot question that is before the voters of Douglas County. You should be receiving your ballot any day. So, Laura Thomas, thank you so much. Thank you for all you do, Kim. Thank you. And we really do want to kick the tires on these ideas and get to the real focus on it. So hopefully this will be helpful regarding this question that is facing the voters of Douglas County. Our quote for the end of the show, I went to Satchel Paige, and I've heard this before, I did not realize that it was attributed to him. But he said this, he said, age is a case of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it don't matter. And so my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Good morning, Kim. Yeah, terrible to hear stuff like that. Colorado, unfortunately, seems to be climbing a lot of unsavory topics and ranking high and bad stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and gosh, John, the state that I loved, I moved here because I just loved the idea of Colorado. But because of all of these terrible policies, it's become a very dangerous place. And then we have the state legislature that is making it more difficult for everyday people to keep and bear firearms to protect themselves against these bad actors. So everyday people are getting just squeezed in a lot of different ways here in Colorado, John.
SPEAKER 14 :
They are. I've been out here in Colorado since 89. And so, I mean, I've seen it change, but it's you know, it's a. I've talked to folks that don't come to Colorado very often, come out maybe once a year, once every other year, and they really, really have noticed the decline because they don't see it. You know, it's not the gradual. They come back a year, two years, and it's starkly different in downtown Denver or other places. And it's very disappointing, but... I know you, Kim, and I and many others have vowed to stay here, not accept defeat and leave the state and continue to fight for what we love.
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Well, and it's a state worth saving and reclaiming. But with all of this crime, one of the things that, and I see on a regular basis, is a car on the highway that may have kind of blacked out windows and no license plate. And I thought that you had to make sure your car was licensed here in Colorado and that you were supposed to have... insurance. But that would indicate to me that there's some bad actors that are out on our highways right now, John Bozen. And if you get hit by one of those bad actors, it's a problem, isn't it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, folks are supposed to follow the law, have insurance coverage, not have their windows tinted so much that you can't shine a flashlight through. But we know good people follow the laws. There's a lot of bad actors out there driving salvaged vehicles, vehicles that have no title, stolen vehicles. They obviously don't have insurance coverage on the car, and they don't have insurance coverage for themselves when they're out there driving around. And these are the folks, I don't have statistics on this, but a higher percentage of people driving without any insurance are the ones causing the accident. I know it because I talk to lots of people. I don't have statistics on that. But if you get hit by one of these folks, you're not going to have any insurance coverage on the other side. So the only way you are going to have any kind of recourse or remedy or get compensated for what that other driver did to you, not just your vehicle, but if you suffered injuries, is if you have on your own auto insurance policy uninsured motorist coverage. And so many people are unaware of whether they do or they don't have it. So, again, I encourage listeners to contact your insurance agent or contact the insurance company and make sure you have uninsured, underinsured motorist coverage on your own vehicle. So in the event you get hit by one of these folks, Bad actors that don't have any insurance coverage shouldn't not be on the road. You've got coverage under your own policy that will protect you, that will provide for your medical bills, will provide for your lost wages when you can't work, will cover you in the event you get hit by someone that should not be on the road and doesn't have any insurance coverage.
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Okay. Well, that is really good advice, John Bozen. If someone has been injured, they should give you and your team of attorneys at Bozen Law a call for a complimentary appointment just to go through what has happened. What's that best number to reach you?
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That number for a free conversation, consultation with me or one of our other senior lawyers is 303-999-9999. I encourage folks, please don't wait nothing good happens by putting that phone call off. And if it's a loved one or neighbor, coworker, push them hard. Give me a call. Time is of the essence to do a lot of things on the front end of a situation. So 303-999-9999 is the number to call.
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Okay. Well, John Bozen, thank you so much. And we'll talk again next week.
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Thank you, Kim. Have a great rest of your show.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And did want to mention Mint Financial Strategies. You've got big dreams for your future, but not sure how to get there. Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They know your financial life is unique and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first. No sales pressure, no one-size-fits-all approach, just thoughtful guidance built around you. Take that first step toward your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies at 303-285-3080 for that complimentary appointment. Again, 303-285-3080. And pleased to have on the line with me the executive producer of Titanic, an immersive, let's see, I have it right here, an immersive voyage. John Zoller, welcome to the show.
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Thanks, Kim. Glad to be on talking about Titanic and Immersive Voyage with my favorite radio host in America.
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Thank you so much. And John, we had you on right around when it opened, the first part of May. But I wanted to have a conversation again about this. Now that the kids are out of school, this is a pretty creative experience for kids to have. So let's talk about this Titanic and immersive voyage. And let's go through the history for people that did not hear that particular interview before. The Titanic was at the bottom of the ocean for a while, right?
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That's right. So Titanic sank in 1912 and was discovered 73 years later in 1985 by Dr. Robert Ballard. We're celebrating the 40th anniversary of his discovery of the wreck on September 1st of 1985. And it was an incredible story. He actually was on a special top secret Navy mission to discover, to find two sunken nuclear subs that before the Russians could find them during the Cold War. And he managed to do that with special equipment that he developed along with the Navy, was able to redirect his focus then the last couple of days of the mission to go and find the Titanic. And in the last day of his mission, when they had one day left with all the funding and everything, they started to find these pieces of non-organic material on the ocean floor, followed a trail, which essentially was part of the Titanic's debris field, up to what they then discovered as the bow of the ship, sitting in its final resting place two and a half miles beneath the surface of the ocean.
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Wow, two and a half miles. That's pretty darn deep. Yeah. And so how did you get so interested in the Titanic, John Zoller?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I've always really enjoyed storytelling for my entire life and was fascinated by Titanic ever since I read Walter Lord's Night to Remember when I was in eighth grade. Um, and then I was, I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity about 25 years ago to work on a traveling exhibition that was created using artifacts recovered from the wreck set of the Titanic. And from that time, I've just continued to create new Titanic experiences. And the fascination really continues to feed, um, to, to, to feed me and to reveal itself because I, The more you get into the Titanic story, the more and more you see there is to learn. The more that hasn't been discovered is now being discovered. But then there's so much to learn, not only from a factual standpoint, but also just from a moral standpoint, an ethical standpoint, and just important life lessons that can come out of the Titanic story.
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Well, as I was preparing for our interview today, I was just looking for some different quotes. And there was a quote regarding that as the Titanic went down, just that the quiet then that occurred and also the... the sounds of people that were losing their lives because of drowning. It kind of stopped me in my tracks, John Soller, as I just thought about that. And of course, the water was so cold as well for the people that survived.
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It's a really powerful part of the story that doesn't get a lot of attention, probably because it is such a difficult subject to engage with. But When you hear the interviews of survivors, those who will talk about that night who made it out, they say, I will never forget. I mean, all these survivors have perished now, but in those interviews they said, I will never forget the sounds of those poor people calling for help, the screams. I'll never forget the screams. And, you know, right now, Kim, I'm in the Titanic exhibit sitting in the replica lifeboat that we created. And this lifeboat is a full-scale lifeboat that you sit in in the immersive gallery, in the experience, and where you actually witness the Titanic going down by the head and her wireless messages going out. And there's nothing you can do about it because the ship's out there on this massive screen going down. You see the wireless messages coming out. You're sitting in a lifeboat just like those survivors did. and there's nothing you can do about it. And that connection to the passengers is so powerful at that point that it's one of the very, very special parts of the experience.
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So, John Soller, where is this immersive voyage? Where can people find it?
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So we're at 3900 Eladi Street, which was the home to the Van Gogh immersive experience. Bubble Planet was there, and now Titanic's there. We're open every day except for Tuesday, and you can get your tickets at expo-titanic.com. We also have great educational packages. You were talking about things to do for kids. There's great opportunities for summer camps, and then also we'll be in Denver through the fall, so there's a great opportunity for school groups to come in when school's back in as well.
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And as young people, what do you think is maybe their first takeaway after taking part of the immersive voyage?
SPEAKER 12 :
So I was recently walking through the galleries in Denver, and at the very end of the experience, as I mentioned, we feature the Marconigrams that Titanic was sending out, the Marconi wireless messages. And so that Marconi theme, that theme, very identifiable piece of paper that is a written wireless message. We use that a lot of places. And at the end of the experience, we ask guests to write their own Marconi message. And we get the most incredible messages from kids who, some of them draw pictures of the Titanic, really nice, you know, really nice illustrations of the Titanic. Other ones though, you know, eight years old, six years old, 10 years old, say, I really connected with my passenger or the people on the ship were so important or I'm so sorry that you all lost your lives. May you rest in peace. So there's an incredible emotional connection between kids and this story. And we've created it in a way that it is accessible. It's not, you know, as we talked about, you're not hearing the screams, but you're able to put yourself in those powerful moments. moral decision-making moments or those powerful emotional moments where families are being separated in a way that kids can relate to and really respond very positively to in a very powerful way. Like they get the story, they get the message. And they also, you know, so the emotional connection strong, but then you have a lot of, a lot of young people who are first fascinated with dinosaurs. I think I mentioned this last time we talked, You're fascinated with dinosaurs, and then you're fascinated with Titanic. And it's all the facts that go into Titanic. Titanic was an engineering marvel. There were over 3 million rivets in the ship. There were all these different complex technologies being put to use for the first time. So some young people really get drilled down on all those facts. And we offer so many opportunities for them to engage with those facts throughout the experience as well. All those stories of Titanic's majesty as an engineering marvel. So you have both the emotional connection and really the science and technology connection that is really, really kids grasp onto.
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Well, and you mentioned the moral questions regarding Titanic. And I was, again, was reading some different things, looking for some different quotes. And there was a guy that said that he was in the water and he tried to get onto a lifeboat and somebody hit him on the head with an oar. So he swam around to the other side and was able to get on the lifeboat. But that was, if too many people got on those lifeboats, they would have capsized as well. So there were a lot of moral questions that had to be made immediately, which have to be so difficult, John Zoller.
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I mean, the toughest decisions you're ever going to make. And, you know, from the women and children first aspect of loading the lifeboats, I mean, we can go all the way back to the design decision that White Star Line made when they reduced the number of lifeboats on board the ship. So Titanic could have held 64 lifeboats in her davits, and that would have supported more than double the capacity of the people that were on a fully loaded ship. But instead, they reduced that to 20 total lifeboats available so that the boat deck didn't feel as crowded. Now we get into the ocean, and Titanic's an unsinkable ship, so we have that hubris factor, that overconfidence in our ability to conquer nature. And then Titanic is sinking. Because, fortunately, Titanic wasn't fully sold out, there were enough lifeboats for about 50% of the people on board. But now we've got the decision to make who gets into those lifeboats. And the rule of the sea was women and children first. which was interpreted differently by the officers loading the lifeboats on Titanic's port side or her starboard side. On the port side, they held very strictly to the rule of women and children only. On the starboard side, they allowed men and boys to board if there were no other women and children in the immediate area. So then we're in the lifeboat. Some lifeboats left with as few as 12 people. And their orders when they left were go back and pick up others in the water. But once they got in that lifeboat, they had their own security. They were terrified they were going to get swamped and overturned. And, you know, it's a lesson that can be extrapolated to so many circumstances we're going through today as well. The conversation that emanates from this little lifeboat that I'm sitting in right now It has global ramifications for how we're looking at the world today. So it's a great kind of flashpoint or starting point for so many conversations, and it also is a real moral reflection. What would I have done? How would I have responded? And then would I have been able to live with the consequences of those choices?
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Those are such huge questions. I'm talking with the executive producer of Titanic and Immersive Voyage, John Soller. We're going to continue this discussion. And this is at 3900 Elati right now. And this is a great thing to do this summer. So we will continue these discussions. And all of this happens because of our sponsors. And one of those is the Second Syndicate.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And we are talking with John Zoller, who is the executive producer of Titanic and Immersive Voyage, which is a great thing to do this summer with the kids. Also, I'd recommend that you put the kids in the car and head down to Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk and visit the Center for American Values. so that you can see their Portraits of Valor, which is portraits of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients. And these recipients received that highest military honor because they took action and saved lives when the situation presented itself. And so for more information about that, go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. and that John Zoller is on the line and Teresa Irby who is our partnership sponsorship liaison. Actually, John, she and her daughter have visited Titanic and Immersive Voyage. Teresa, welcome to the show. Good morning. Good morning, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good morning, Kim. I absolutely want to first say, yes, please make sure to visit the Center for American Values. However, My daughter, 14 years old, and her best friend, 14 years old, and myself did go and visit the exhibit. And I was so thoroughly impressed, John. So, Kim, first of all, you get there and they give you your White Star boarding pass. So you actually become a person that boarded the Titanic during your tour. So you're going through and you're carrying your pass. I was Catherine Katie Peters. And so she was a third-class passenger. I mean, the extent that they went through on this experience, I was so impressed. My 14-year-old daughter and her 14-year-old friend cannot stop raving about it. They absolutely loved it. When John was talking earlier about the part of the exhibit where you're sitting in the lifeboat, I will tell you that I actually had tears running down my cheek. The experience was so real and came to life. Some of my other favorites, being able to actually experience being in the crow's nest. I don't want to give everything away, but I will tell you, if you make the trek down there, and it's so easy and it's just so well done, great for all ages, whether you are a senior down to an elementary school, it is absolutely done so well. And I have to put a plug in there. Do the extra VR experience. even if you've never experienced VR before, especially if you have it. Absolutely incredible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, John Zoller, thank you, Teresa Irby. I think that that's a great comment regarding this immersive voyage. And so your thoughts on that, John?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I mean, that's the... we love to hear from our guests who visit the experience. I think to Teresa's point about sitting in that lifeboat with tears running down her face, that's that inevitable moment when you realize there's nothing you can do about what's happening out there in front of you. We take so much action in our lives, we have so much agency, but you get in these moments where, like in the Titanic, there was nothing that could be done And that moment really comes home. I do think also to Teresa's point, the exhibit is incredibly well done overall. And so as you go through the experience and you're learning and you're connecting, you develop this more and more powerful emotional connection to the overall story that comes out in this final feeling that you had an experience. And In our lives today, we're always looking for these experiences, these important experiences, and these important lessons, and Titanic and Immersive Voyage really can deliver on that. The other thing that I'm so glad she mentioned is the virtual reality, which I think we talked about before, Kim, but going back to the discovery of the wreck, you actually dive to the wreck of the Titanic, and you see that wreck better through the magic of virtual reality. and if you actually dove in a submersible to that depth, because if you dive to that depth, you're looking through a 12-inch diameter porthole. That's all you can see. But through the magic of virtual reality, you're standing on an open ocean platform, and you can study the entire front section of the wreck in great detail. And it's at the end of the experience, and so you've gone through this whole emotional connection, and now you're at the wreck site sort of reliving Titanic's final moments in a really powerful way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and from a historical standpoint, the Titanic was not the only ship out there that night, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, that's right. There were actually seven other ships that were around Titanic, and possibly eight. So the Californian was a ship that was between 20 and 40 nautical miles away, probably closer to 20. It easily could have... gone and rescued the majority of those people that were in the water. But they had turned off their wireless messaging system because there was no regulation at the time to keep them on. And they saw the Titanic's rockets going off, but they thought it was just the rich people on Titanic having a party. So they didn't respond. There was also potentially an illegal whaling or sealing ship called the Samson that was even closer, but they didn't want to respond because they didn't want to get caught for illegally harvesting those sea animals. So those are two of the ships that were closest by. The Carpathia, however, which is one of the passengers in the Denver exhibit wrote a note that said, O to be Carpathia and not the iceberg, which is just an incredible message that they wrote because Carpathia responded to the call. They were on the other side of an ice field. They sailed essentially weaving through icebergs over four hours to get to Titanic and were able to rescue those 715 passengers who were able to make it into lifeboats. And Captain Arthur Rostrand is just a symbol of heroism to this day for that reason. You know, without Carpathia, there'd be no Titanic story to tell.
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Well, and these ice fields, if the Carpathia was able to navigate through those, how is it that the Titanic was not able to do so?
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So, you know, there's a few things there. The first one is that Captain Smith, who was the captain of the Titanic, had sailed the North Atlantic for 35 years. He had received ice warnings throughout the day. And being so comfortable in the North Atlantic, he readjusted his course thinking, well, we're going to go so far south that no iceberg has ever made it this far before. And in our last Last time we talked, Kim, we talked about the Greek tragedy alignment with Titanic, that it's like a Greek tragedy. And lo and behold, this year, the currents were so cold that the iceberg, the ice field did descend beyond into that exact path of travel. And that's where that fateful iceberg met Titanic. The other thing is that Captain Smith probably was overconfident in his ship and in his abilities because other ships had stopped throughout the night and said, we're not going to sail on until we know for sure that we can get through this ice field. Carpathia, Captain Arthur Rostron asked later in his life, how did you get through that ice field? His answer was a very religious man. He said, someone other than me had their hand on the helm that night. That's how we got there. So it's all of these incredible stories that come out based around the Titanic that continue to draw us back to it time and time again.
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And then let's go back to Teresa. She said that every guest that comes to Titanic and Immersive Voyage, they are given a boarding pass. They become somebody. And so you went through and researched all these people out? Is that what happened? Yes.
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We did. So there's several hundred passengers, men and women, that we researched. And you actually get a boarding pass. On that boarding pass, we tell you, you know, who your passenger is, where they're from, what class they're in. And we give you a little bit of the story of how they got to be on board Titanic. So some people were out, you know, some wealthy first-class passengers had been out exploring Titanic. the Far East and made it back through France and joined Titanic to be on her maiden voyage. Some people were transferred to Titanic because of the coal strike that was going out at the time. Some people had been visiting family and coming back. So you learn these little pieces and we connect you to the passenger that way. Then as you go through the exhibit, there are these kiosks, these digital kiosks, where you can go to and you can learn more about your passenger. So as you're standing in the passenger gallery, you can read more about your passenger, so what they did on board the ship, or more about why they had been overseas or why they were coming to America. And then in the memorial gallery, where you find out the fate of your passenger, we also, on one of these digital kiosks, give you more information about either your passengers' final moments or what they did to survive and what they did afterwards. So you really can drill down with these passengers in terms of really connecting with them in a very powerful way.
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Well, and then lastly, John Zoller, Denver has a connection to Titanic through Molly Brown. And you've got a kind of a partnership with the Molly Brown House as well, which, again, is another great thing for people to do with their students, their kids this summer, is to visit the Molly Brown House as well.
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That's right. And Molly Brown really became, she really is the Titanic story and particularly for Denver, but just in general, Molly Brown, such a charismatic figure, you know, recently had come into quite a bit of wealth, but always someone who worked hard, who looked out for those less fortunate than her and on the Titanic was certainly enjoying all the trappings of luxury. She was traveling as a first class passenger, having explored, having been traveling through Europe and, boarded it at Cherbourg in France to, you know, essentially to be on this inaugural voyage of the largest ship and most glorious ship that ever set sail. But once she got into that lifeboat, she was the champion that kept all the spirits up, kept everybody warming up so they could survive that night. She actually did want to go back as we talked about earlier and rescue passengers who, who were in the, you know, in the water, but was overruled by, um, Albert Hitchens, who was the quartermaster who was manning that ship. But after she got onto Carpathia, she immediately started a relief fund for those less fortunate than her. By the time she had arrived in New York, she had already raised $10,000, and that amount continued to grow, and that relief fund continued to serve those less fortunate who had lost their husbands who were the breadwinners who had lost their sons and lost their wives, they were then able to support those people through small payments over the course of several years with that fund that she created. She also created a silver cup that she presented to Captain Arthur Rostrand as a token of gratitude and as a recognition of his heroism. So she really celebrated him as well. And that's part of the reason why we know so much about his story, because he didn't really advertise himself as having done anything, but she recognized the importance of what he had done. And then throughout the rest of her life, with this new fame she had established as the unsinkable Molly Brown, she continued to push for those causes that were most important for her and were thrilled to be able to display her several of her objects in the experience. And we're also, you know, we, we really think that if you go to Titanic and immersive voyage, it's also really important to visit the Molly Brown house, which is only about 15 minutes away from the experience.
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Okay. So, John Zoller, first of all, congratulations on your creativity for Titanic and Immersive Voyage. And people can, well, it's at the Lighthouse Artspace in Denver, 3900 Elati Street. Tickets can be purchased at expo-titanic.com slash Denver. What's your final thought that you'd like to leave with our listeners? And again, I'd highly recommend that people take their kids down to the Immersive Voyage and experience this. What's your final thought, John Saller?
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Well, my final thought, Kim, is I really enjoy talking to you about this subject because of the format of your show and the types of really probing questions that you ask. Our conversation that we're having today that's so powerful is one that everybody who comes out of Titanic and Immersive Voyage can have. It creates that kind of emotional connection across the generations between families where you come away with more than a 90-minute experience. You come away with a life lesson that you've had together as a family or a couple or a group that will carry on with you for a long, long time. So we really look forward to welcoming everybody to Titanic and Immersive Voyage in Denver this summer.
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And again, tickets are expo-titanic.com forward slash Denver. John Zoller, thank you so much.
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Thank you, Kim.
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Well, it's pencil and paper time, okay? So there's a showing only one night, okay? So tonight, the 3rd of June, there is going to be the Face of Jesus. And it's at 7 p.m. It's only one showing. And you can find that by searching, right, The Face of Jesus. And it's through Fandango. I know one of the theaters is really near. It starts with an R, but I can't remember. It's not Regent. Anyway, so that's at Indiana and Colfax, essentially. And the second announcement is that LindellTV, L-I-N-D-E-L-L-T-V.com, will have whatever can be shown of the court hearing in Denver of Smartmatic against Mike Lindell for having told the truth about what he, anyway, they call it a slander suit. So anyway, that's warroom.org or lindelltv.com. And that hearing is going to be for the next week or so. I was at the news release yesterday at the U.S. Judicial Supreme Court, Federal Court at 19th and Tampa. And that was outstanding. Okay. I mean, his press release. Okay. But anyway, it's LyndellTV, L-I-N-D-E-L-L-T-V.com or warroom.org. Okay?
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Okay. Thank you, Action Ann. She is very well informed on what's happening out there in Denver. And, again, she said the movie Face of Jesus, you can just do a search for that. And then, yes, this is a very big deal, this trial that's going on regarding Mike Lindell being accused of defamation by Eric Coomer. And that is occurring as we speak in federal court here in Denver. And they anticipate that that court case will go for a couple of weeks. So stay tuned on that. We say that Colorado is at the tip of the spear. Oh, my gosh, we are with so many different things regarding the pushing of the World Economic Forum with these 15 minute cities up and down these transit corridors. People are not riding the trains, but they are continuing to double down. And the Trump administration. I've been thinking a lot about the Trump administration. There is so much that is going on. I wish and I'm so pleased that he is our president and not Kamala Harris. However, though, is I really wish that we would get to a point where we are reducing the size and scope of the federal government. And I think he's doing some of that, but I just think that there could be more. For example, the money for Harvard that he says that he's going to no longer fund for Harvard, that he's going to put that into trade schools, which I love trade schools. However, How about reducing taxes and fees all across the board so everyday people can afford their tuition for these schools instead of having the federal government so involved in all that? Next thing, a lot of comments coming in regarding the Douglas County Home Rule question. from people outside of Douglas County. And I would say that the results are mixed on this, that people like the idea of more control of their counties, although, as Laura Thomas had indicated, that municipal home rule and county home rule are two different things. And where I'm at on this is I... No longer like to see things just totally rushed. I want to understand totally what is going on. And it seems like when we make these rushed decisions, that that's where we can get ourselves into trouble. And I remember regarding the Patriot Act. after 9-11, it basically was sold to us that this would be to help keep us safe. And that seemed like that made a lot of sense. But next thing I know, well, a few years later, is that we've got PBIs that are spying on Americans. And so with this home rule, I think that we need to pump the brakes on it and Question why there's such a compressed timeline and make sure that the citizens of Douglas County have the opportunity to get all of their questions answered. And so, but again, it's mixed on all of you commenting on this. Let's see, this came in from Susan. She said, it seems that home rule is a good idea. It puts a rub between the state government and the local government. She said, I can't remember the exact issue, but it was helpful to her as a small business owner in Commerce City. But again, that's municipal and county is different. And so I think that we need to stop and take more time to understand what's going on. I'm also concerned about who is funding this, there clearly is money behind this, and I would like transparency on that as well, so that we have a clear understanding of that, because when you understand who's behind it from a money standpoint, you can understand the issues a bit more as well. So I'm not saying that Home Rule's a bad idea, I just think that it's being hurried, and typically we never make great decisions when we try to rush things through like that. And so stay tuned on that. Those ballots have gone out for Douglas County residents and they're due back on the 24th of June. And our quote for the end of the show, I went to Satchel Paige, who was a pitcher in the Major League Baseball. And he said this, he said, age is a case of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it don't matter. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals. And, oh, you know what? I'm a little hurt. Thank you, Joe. I got mixed up. I have one more minute left on this. And clock management is always so tricky. So we've got a big shows planned for you for the rest of the week. And make sure that you're signed up for our email newsletters that come out on Sundays so that you'll get first look at all of our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. We'll be rolling out an essay by Alicia Garcia regarding issues on our Second Amendment. And then also Brad Beck will be a guest on Thursday. We'll be rolling out his essay as well. So be sure to stay tuned on all that. And, again, Satchel Paige is our quote for the end of the show. And he was a major league pitcher in both the Negro Baseball League as well as Major League Baseball. And he, again, he said this. He said, age is a case of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it don't matter. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now with The Good News.
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Hey there, friends. Angie Austin here with the good news. Well, did you know that men are like waffles and women are like spaghetti? Well, that is what Bill Farrell says. His book is Men Are Like Waffles, Women Are Like Spaghetti. And now we had two of you last time, Bill. Do we only have the waffle today?
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We've only got the waffle. I'll do my best to represent the spaghetti side, too. But today we've just got the waffle.
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And this book is not just men are like waffles, women are like spaghetti, understanding and delighting in your differences. So give us the overview, the premise of the book and how we understand and delight in our differences.
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So first of all, this book came out of our desire to help both men and women understand relationships a little bit better because it's a lot easier to get women to talk about relationships than men. So we were looking for a word picture that would engage the men and And we were carrying the thought, men like food, so maybe a food analogy will work. So if we were to diagram the way typical man processes information in life, it looks like the top of a waffle. There's a bunch of boxes. All those boxes are separated from one another by walls. And the way we as men operate is the first issue in life goes in the first box, second issue goes in the second box, third issue goes in the third box, and so on. And we as men, we spend time in one box at a time and one box only. Yes, so true. Yeah, so when a man is at work, he is at work. When a man's out in the yard doing yard work, he is in the yard doing yard work. And when a man's focused on his relationship, he's focused on his relationship. When we do one thing at a time, and we do it well, because of that single focus that us men have, we actually are problem solvers by nature. So we like to go into a box, figure out the problem, assign a solution, and then move on. And if we get to a box and we see the problem, we don't know what the solution is, we just move on. And as men mature, we do jump boxes faster than we used to.
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Yes.
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And so at times it looks like we're multitasking, but we're just jumping from one box to another faster than we used to when we were younger.
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I see.
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And so it's really valuable because... Like the family needs that single focus that us men bring. The workplace, the church, the community, they all get value from this single focus that us men bring. But it does create some tension in our important relationships because you ladies don't process the same way. And so how does the spaghetti work? you ladies process more like a plate of spaghetti. Like if you look at a plate of spaghetti, all of the noodles touch every other noodle on the plate. Yes. And so you ladies literally can connect everything in your life together at the same time. So you can move from noodle to noodle to noodle to noodle from thought to thought to thought seamlessly. And as a result, you're really great at multitasking. But you can actually connect all the stuff going on in life. And so It's not unusual for me to watch Pam. She'll be on the phone with a girlfriend. They'll be talking about life. She'll be recommending your show to her while they're talking. And while she's doing that, she's making a to-do list for herself and for me and for all of our kids. And she'll be telling the kids in sign language to quit talking because she's on the phone and they're interrupting her. And she's got dinner going on the stove, and she can open and shut the oven door with her foot. It's amazing to watch her.
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That is hilarious because yesterday my daughter is a junior. She was doing a Skype phone call with a coach, and it went on for like an hour for a potential college to go to for volleyball. So my husband is doing the call with her, and I'm on the porch to stay out of it with all the pets, but there was a cat inside staring at me outside, right? So the cat's meowing at me. So instead of just like saying one second or just getting up while my daughter's talking or getting up, you know, at some point in the call or putting your finger up like I'll be right back and putting the cat out. He's texting me like, oh, my gosh, help. Like, get the cat out. Oh, my gosh. And I'm like, right. It's like the cat's 10 feet from you.
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You can't go dealing with a cat.
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No, the cat's not in his waffle square. It's in a different square. Exactly. All right, so I know we've spoken in the past, and I wanted to maybe focus on Chapter 6 and 7 where you talk about waffles and spaghetti in conflict and waffles and spaghetti achieving together. Or we can also start with some of the main issues that you tend to see people having that you think you can help with.
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I think the conflict is a good one to jump in on because we all know life brings challenges. Right. And as a result, you have to address issues in your life. And when those issues hit and they're important, they hit men and women differently. And so what happens when there's conflict in a relationship, the best way to describe the way you ladies approach it is the alarm goes off. Like studies have shown that the alarm system for important relationships was placed in females. So when something's not right in a relationship, when something's not right in the family, when there's something like kind of brewing that needs to be addressed, you ladies sense it. And in fact, the alarm goes off. You will start bringing up issues. Like studies show that women are the first people to bring up issues in relationships. And so the alarm goes off. And as men, we get confused by it. Because when we hear our wives talking about what's going wrong either in our relationship or in the family or there's something that needs to be addressed in our life, it sounds to us like you have it all figured out. You know what you're supposed to do. You know what we're supposed to do. You know what the kids are supposed to do. And we then feel like we're behind. So you've seen the problem. You've seen the issue. We feel like we're behind, so we get defensive. And when we get defensive, it sets off the alarm even more. You're like, oh, look, he's being defensive. And so something must really be wrong. And so then the conversation ramps up. The wife is bringing up more issues. The man is being defensive. And we get caught in these crazy cycles. And if a couple can say, okay, these are supposed to work together, because the alarm system goes off in the wife, men have this problem-solving ability And if men will engage at that point and say, okay, the alarm's going off, we've got to figure out what it is. What we have noticed working with couples is when couples know what the real problem is, they're really good at addressing it.
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Okay.
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But too often, they just run in the symptoms. Like, Pam and I, we were at a hotel not too long ago, and in the middle of the night, the hotel alarm went off. And everything's buzzing, everything's loud, and we come out of a deep sleep trying to figure out what's going on. And I walked over to the thermostat. No, no, that's not what it is. And I checked the phone. No, that's not what it is. But the alarm's still going off. And it turned out that in one of the laundry rooms, there was smoke coming out of one of the appliances. Okay. And it set off the fire alarm for the whole hotel.
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Oh my.
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Well, once we knew what the real problem was, we could relax and realize, Oh, it's not our room. Yes. Yes. And we were able to coordinate. Well, that same thing happens with couples all the time. Like I'll, I'll tell you in our relationship, my relationship with him, if we're in conflict with each other and I started it, it's almost always because I'm feeling left out.
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Oh, interesting.
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And that feeling of being left out, it comes from two things. One, I'm the youngest in my family. So I grew up feeling like I was minimized all the time.
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Ah, yes.
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Because everybody else, you know, the youngest, it's cute when they have an idea.
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Yes.
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And everybody says, okay, we'll think about it and get back to you. And I'd be like, no, I know what we should do here. And so I always felt like I was kind of just being put in the back seat and You know, being under-considered when I brought up ideas. And, of course, I married an older sister because we need to have our butts pushed in life. And so I married somebody who's decisive and direct. Yes. And she's really good at it. And the other thing that it ties back to is my mom. My mom's a very broken soul. And she was mistreated a lot as a child. And her reaction to it is she just took control as an adult. And every decision that was made in my home growing up was made by my mom. And it was made with some basis of fear to it. So I didn't feel like I was allowed to make decisions growing up. So when I, you know, now as an adult, I've married a decisive woman and she's very smart, very talented. And sometimes she will just make a decision and then tell me that we made the decision.
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Oh, how funny.
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On really mature days.
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I've done that, too.
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I've done that, too. Yeah. Yeah. And it's humbling because most of the time it's a good decision. But I'm feeling left out of it. Interesting. And on mature days, I will tell her that. Like, Pam, I'm feeling left out. Can we revisit this? But on less mature days, I will just, you know, kind of snarkily say, wow, it's great to be married to a bossy oldest sister. Yeah. Which never goes over very well, but I try it every once in a while anyway.
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I love it. Yes, that's so fun. I think I've done that before where I've made a decision where I've brought it up to him, but then it's complicated. I want to avoid the extra hassles, per se. And so I just kind of take care of it. like on my own, because I feel like I've, I've, I kind of did that with the dog where I said, I am going to get a dog for my birthday. Like it's going to happen. I'm getting a dog and that's that. And just so you know, and it was like, it's going to add value to the family and everybody's going to love it. Oh, Oh, well, now they're best friends. It's ridiculous. But when I got off the... And I didn't want to bring... So I didn't want to bring it up on the trip because we were out of town, the kids and I. And I said, Dad knows, but I don't want you bringing it up because he's not necessarily on board. But I have told him, right? So then we get off the plane and he's waiting for us at the curb or whatever. He's like livid because who's going to take care of it? And who's going to do this? And who's going to that? Oh, and who's going to bring it to his office two days a week and drive around with his truck in it and snuggle it at night? Oh, who's going to do that part? So anyway, they end up being best friends now with like matching sweaters, you know, but but I did actually just I couldn't lie. I filled him in. He wasn't on board. I let him know that I am going to do this, you know, and maybe it's a little bit different thing we're talking about. But I think sometimes I do it to avoid conflict because I know I'd eventually convince him, but I don't have time to convince him. Yeah.
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And see, that's the kind of thing. The argument's not about the dog. Yes. The argument's about the process. Yes. And the approach. Yes. And again, if couples can get to where they see the real problem, most people are intelligent enough and they're in love enough that once they see the real problem, they band together and address it together. Yes. But couples spend so much time on the symptoms, rolling around in the reactions.
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What are some of the biggest things that you think, I mean, finances, obviously, I'm assuming, are, I thank goodness I'm on the same page with my husband when it comes to money.
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Yeah, and the behaviors are generally not the problem. Like finances don't tend to be the problem. Finances are the stage that exposes the problem. So things like fear of rejection, fear of failure, fear of not being taken seriously. I don't want to be controlled by another individual. I want there to be freedom for me to be who I am, not just live under your expectations. Like those are the real issues that cause problems in marriage. And they show up in planning. They show up in finances. They show up in parenting. But the finances, the parenting and the planning are not the real issues. It's Do I have freedom to be who I am? Because as an individual, you are who you are. And you organize your life to give you freedom to be the best version of yourself. Well, then you get married and you merge your life together with somebody else. And that leads to the other thing that I would say is one of the most common struggles in marriage is people lose their curiosity. Because we tend to view our differences over time as problems. There's something wrong with my spouse because they do things differently, so I need to fix that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want to have you and Pam back again. I love having you guys on. It's just such an interesting conversation. We're out of time, so give us your website, will you?
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Sure. It's love-wise.com, so L-O-V-E-W-I-S-E.com. And we're trying to park ourselves on the corner of love and wisdom so people know how to stay in love.
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I love that. Okay. Men are like waffles. Women are like spaghetti. Bill and Pam Farrell. Thank you, Bim. Thank you, Bill. Have a great day. Hey, Bim. You guys are the couple, Pam and Bill Bim. All right. Thanks, friend. Bye-bye. We're merged into one now. Yes. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
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Hello there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. Really excited to have Wally Long back. Wally was my first guest on the show about 12 years ago when I was just starting off the good news with Angie Austin. And you may not think his story is a good news story, but it is in the long run because the Lord has stood by him and his extended family, his very large family with many, many kids. through all of this pain and suffering. The book is Why Me, Lord? Biblical and Practical Answers for Suffering in Our Lives. And Wally, we're going to talk about Chapter 2 today because we're working our way through the book. But for people who haven't heard you on my show the prior five or six times, give us kind of a recap of what you're talking about when you talk about suffering in our lives and yours in particular.
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Certainly. It started in 2006 when my youngest sister at 40 years old committed suicide. Then the spring of 2007 or the summer of 2007, I had a son, 17 or 18 at the time, that had a motorcycle accident with a barbed wire fence, lost his right leg. Several surgeries and I came home from the hospital two weeks later. Then my mother went to the hospital on her deathbed and died in September of 2007. And then just as our family was kind of getting back to normal from all of that, In March 1st of 2011, my brother and his wife were murdered by their own son, who was 12 years old at the time. They almost killed his younger brother and sister, who were five. The girl was five. The boy was nine. He almost killed them. They survived. We adopted them, and they became our seventh and eighth children.
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Oh, my goodness. And then, of course, the other kids your brother had, you've taken them in the fold as well. So how many kids total now is this? Thirteen?
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Well, they had seven. Yeah, they had seven and not counting the one who did the deed. So there will be six left that we have a relationship with besides our six. There will be 12 kids altogether.
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And you mentioned that you visited the then 12-year-old. He ended up going to prison, but he's out now. He was a juvenile, and he was charged as a juvenile. So he's been released from prison after just over a decade. Yes.
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Well, he actually just did seven years. Oh, goodness.
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He was released in 2018. Oh, my goodness. I feel sick about it. So he killed his parents, almost killed Sarah and Ethan. And I remember it was so touch and go that they took them into emergency care, and they didn't know if Sarah and Ethan would make it. They did. Sarah just graduated with honors and received all these scholarships. And you guys homeschooled your kids until just a few years ago for Sarah, but the rest of them you homeschooled. Strong Christian family. So was your brother's family, the 12-year-old who was the— The shooter or the murderer, I just say it's just so hard to even talk about a 12-year-old that way, but who's been released. He also was a churchgoer with the family, and no one knew there was an issue this big within the family.
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That's right. We never had a suspicion at all that anything like this was happening.
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All right, so let's get into Why Me, Lord? Biblical and Practical Answers for Suffering in Our Lives. We started with Chapter 1 last week. What's Chapter 2 about? What are we going to learn this week?
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In Chapter 2, or Part 2, essentially, Part 2 includes five chapters, because in Part 2, when we ask Why Me, Lord?, essentially we're asking two questions. We're asking, one, what causes our suffering? Why did something happen to cause our suffering? And then part three, we look at the purposes of our suffering. So part two, in those five chapters, we look at the various causes that essentially probably would include just about any cause that might cause our suffering and tragedy. So this part right here deals with the causes.
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All right, I'm just hopping back. You do talk in part one about how trials are a normal part of life and that not all trials are equal in our response to those and that these trials are bearable as the Lord stands with us. So then as we get into part two, I just want to just kind of just give an overview here because this is interesting as to what causes our suffering. It can be our own foolishness. It can be caused by our sin or the sin of others, caused by the enemy, caused by storms that fall on everyone, trials and tribulations we all deal with, and can be the result maybe just of living in a fallen world. So let's start with our own suffering caused by ourselves.
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Right, and that's essentially the law of sowing and reaping that Paul talks about, that Job talks about. And, of course, anybody who's ever planted anything knows that when you plant a seed, you get from that seed exactly what you're supposed to get. If you plant green beans, you get green beans. If you plant sinfulness or you plant foolish decisions or unwise decisions, you often will suffer for those. Anybody who's ever had to file bankruptcy and financial straits knows that often, not all the time, but sometimes that happens because of your own unwise financial decisions. You know, I work with a group of people that are coming out of drug addictions, and they know this principle very well because they planted their own sinfulness and foolishness by getting addicted to drugs and staying there for a while. And even though they are recovering and they are moving forward with life, some of them suffer long-term consequences of their behavior. It may last forever, even to the point of changing their brain chemistry and and causing other health issues that they will deal with for the rest of their lives. So sometimes we just do unwise things, sinful things, foolish things, and we suffer for it.
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Boy, do we. All right. And that's something that, as you know, with our kids, it's very difficult because sometimes what happens to them is so, I mean, I hate to use this as an example, but my mother-in-law, her father was a police officer and he died in a motorcycle accident. Then grandpa, my father-in-law, got in a really bad motorcycle accident. Your son lost his leg in a motorcycle accident. My son has been told, period, you may not have a motorcycle, period, ever. We don't drive them. We don't do that. Both grandpas said we don't ride motorcycles and we don't get tattoos. Both grandpas told him. But when they become adults, it's up to them, right? And so if he decides to— And so we can give him all the examples in the world, but ultimately it becomes his choice. He called us the other day and asked if he could get his ear pierced. He was at Young Life with a bunch of Christian kids, and kids were getting their ears pierced, and he was getting really pressured. So my husband said, no, not while you're at this event being pressured at Young Life. My daughter did it. She's a freshman going to be a sophomore. He said, you're old enough. You're 15. You can get your ears pierced. Fine. My son, he's 18. He said, I want you pierced. to not do it tonight, but if you want to do it tomorrow, then we'll go and pay to have it done. But I want you to think about it and not do it while you're being pressured. So when he got home, he said, yes, he got home. He said, I'm so glad you said no, because they were really pressuring me to do it. And I didn't feel like I had a way out. And so we just said, you know, yeah, you can do it, but not tonight. So dad became the bad guy and it helped. That's good. Yes, exactly. That's the way it should be. So foolishness, what we see as foolishness, our kids may not see as foolishness, which is definitely an interesting teeter-totter in life. All right. old nephew of yours killing his parents, your brother and sister-in-law, and almost killing Sarah and Ethan, his brother and sister. That was suffering that was caused by a person that now the entire family has nothing to do with this kid who's become an outcast from all of his siblings and all of his relatives, from everyone that knew him before.
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Right. And a lot of the suffering that you read in the papers you see on the news is caused by the sin of other people. It's caused by sinful, evil people who doing sinful, evil things to others. I worked in a federal prison for 20 years, so I saw that over and over and over again. Sinful people that caused other people to suffer. I worked at the Supermax in Florence, Colorado for a number of years, and there were rapists, murderers, and every person that gets murdered, not only does a person lose their life, but it changes and affects the lives of everybody that loved that person. So one person does an evil deed, and then many, many people can suffer for it. We look at the story of Joseph in the scripture, and I deal with this in the book in a couple different places, but Joseph hadn't done anything wrong, but he suffered and went to prison and was a slave because of the sinfulness of his own brothers, the jealousy of his own 11 brothers that didn't like what he had to say to them about his dream, and they sell him into slavery. And then he went through a journey that Eventually, God blessed him. He ended up on top of the world, you know, in the Egyptian world, second only to Pharaoh. But he suffered because of the sin of other people. And that's probably one of the biggest things that we see in this world. Sinful people are evil. They do evil things. And then we suffer the consequences of it. Innocent people suffer the consequences.
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All right. And again, we're talking about Wally Long's book, Why Me, Lord? And we're talking about part two, our suffering caused by the enemy and by the storms that fall on everyone. Some things we just can't avoid.
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Yes, right. We have an enemy as Christians, as people. We have an enemy in this world, and he's God's enemy. He's Satan and his evil horde. And they want to make us fall. He wants to see us crushed under our storms, under our hard times. And if he can bring something into our lives, and not every time do we suffer. Obviously, not all of these causes we can pinpoint in each of our suffering. But sometimes our suffering might be caused by an enemy who simply wants to make you fall. And then storms. Shortly after we brought the kids to our house, There was a tornado in Joplin, Missouri that killed several hundred people. There were good people, bad people, rich people, poor people, black people, white people, people of every color and every race and every creed that suffered because of a storm. It's just simple. When it rains, we all get wet. When the tornado comes, we all get blown by the wind of that tornado. Sometimes storms just fall, and when they fall, people suffer. And then, of course, the last one is, in a sense, is maybe a catch-all, but we live in a fallen world. We live in a world that has been affected now for thousands of years, depending on your view of the age of the earth and when God created the earth and all that, which is a debate for another time, but But we live in a world that for thousands of years, for millennia, has been affected by sin. And sin, there are many devastating effects of sin. The genetic defects that people are born with that suffer through life because of a genetic problem. And then that causes other people hard times in the lives of others around them because they have to shift their life around. And we do it out of love. We care for people. We love somebody. It doesn't matter what genetic problem they may have, but it does cause a change of life. And so sometimes just this fallen world, bad things happen because the world is a bad place. It's, it's evil. There's evil in this world. And, uh, sin has affected this world in numerous ways. And sometimes our suffering is simply caused by that fallen world. And, uh, I know that's not encouraging. And this chapter essentially isn't, this part essentially isn't meant to be meant to be encouraging necessarily. It's, It's simply trying to define that one of these five causes is probably what caused your suffering, our suffering.
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And determining that kind of sets us up for what to do in the future, whether we need to change our behavior or eliminate someone from our lives, change course in friendships, etc. And then we're going to go into, during our next visit, Why Me, Lord?, into section three, and we're going to talk about the purposes of our suffering and how God shows himself and strengthens us and reveals our character to ourselves and others, because others can learn a lot from how we react to this, as you've seen, because you've done so many interviews and so many speeches and you know, sermons, you know, talking to people who have learned from, you know, what you've gone through. If you want to find Wally, he has a website. It's WallyLong.com. And the book is on Amazon as well, if you want to get Why Me, Lord. And just always a blessing to have you on the show, Wally Long, Why Me, Lord, Biblical and Practical Answers for Suffering in Our Lives. I'm honored, too. Thanks, Wally.
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Thank you, Angie. Appreciate it. Thank you. We'll talk to you again later.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
In this enlightening episode, Rick Hughes uncovers the mysteries of being part of God's Royal Family. As believers, we are called to live with high integrity and spiritual maturity. Rick discusses the significance of living under the royal law, emphasizing love and self-control over sin. Learn how to stay vigilant in your spiritual journey, avoiding the distractions set by adversarial forces, and fulfilling God's plan for your life.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It won't be long, just about 30 minutes of some motivation, a whole lot of inspiration, a whole lot of education. And absolutely not zero, zilch, any manipulation. That's right, we're not gonna con you. We're not soliciting money. We're not trying to sell you something. This is not an infomercial. This is simply me teaching the Word of God, trying to help you orient and adjust to God's plan for your life. My job is to verify and identify that plan. Your job, if you want to orient and adjust, is go for it and do it. Remember, you only got one shot at it. You got one life. You don't get two or three. You get one shot at it. So I pray you're listening. I pray you're paying attention. The Flatline is brought to you every Sunday morning by Rick Hughes Evangelistic Ministries, and you can always find us on the Internet. at rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org. And from there, you can see the many books we've written, and we offer free of charge. We don't sell anything. Hopefully, you'll go and find those books and maybe order one or two that'll help you or your friends in your walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. There are a lot of things we talk about on our radio show. Sometimes we get into inspirational topics and sometimes we get into theological topics. Today I want to teach you something that I think is very interesting and something very unique that we all need to remember and we all need to pay attention to. So stay with me as I go through this study today because I believe it will challenge you and I believe it will encourage you as well. We're talking about the royal family of God. the royal family of God. You know, some of us have large families. I don't know how big your family is, but some people have large earthly families. They enjoy getting together for meals and fellowship, and it's always refreshing to catch up with your siblings, your aunts, your uncles, your cousins, and hear what everybody's been up to. Well, as a Christian, you have a family of believers called the royal family of God. And as such, we have certain privileges and certain responsibilities, even duties that we need to be carrying out as members of the royal family of God. So if you are a Christian, if you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior, you are in God's royal family. You're a royal family member. the title royal family refers to church age believers only we're not talking about old testament believers old testament saints i'm talking about those people that have come to understand who and what christ is since peter's sermon there in acts chapter 2 called the church the body of christ the church and the royal family refers to the church age believers only When our Lord resurrected from the grave and ascended into heaven, he was seated at the right hand of the Father, and that is the place of highest honor in the entire universe. In Acts 2.32, the Bible says, Thus this Jesus has God raised up. That's the resurrection. Wherefore, we are all witnesses to that. This is Peter speaking now. Therefore, being by the right hand of God, he is exalted in having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, which he hath shed forth this, which you now see and hear. That's the preaching that Peter's doing. For David did not ascend into heavens, but thus he said to himself, the Lord said to my Lord, sit you on my right hand. So we understand the Lord Jesus Christ after his death, burial, and resurrection, he ascended into heaven and he's seated at the right hand of God the Father. And there he's known as the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. In 1 Timothy 6, 15, which in his times he shall show who is the blessed and only potentate, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. That's our Savior, Jesus Christ, the anointed Son of God. As a result of this glorification, where he's now seated to the right hand of the Father, a new royal family was established by God the Father, and he set aside the age of Israel, and he inserted what we know as the Church Age, which is the foundation of God's royal family. If you're a Christian, today you live in the Church Age, and you are a member of the royal family of God. We are placed into this spiritual dynasty by the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and that occurs at the moment of our salvation, and Ephesians tells you about that. We're sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. But keep in mind, there's no race, no gender involved, We're all joint heirs of God and all share in what Christ has done and what Christ will be. Each one of us, you, me, each one of us are now spiritual aristocracy. Let that sink in. You are spiritual aristocracy. That means we are believer priest and we are also royal ambassadors for God. So as a member of this unique family, the royal family of God, we have an honor code. And that honor code instructs us how to conduct ourselves with the highest integrity and the highest honor so that we reflect the thinking of the Lord Jesus Christ. That's our job. So spiritual aristocracy. I bet you never thought of yourself as that, did you? You are spiritual aristocracy because you are a member of the royal family of God. This royal family that you and I are a part of will be completed at the rapture of the church. You say, what's the rapture of the church? It's the exit resurrection of 1 Thessalonians 4, 13 through 17. Turn and read it when you want to. 1 Thessalonians 4, 13 through 17. It's here that Paul talked about how we'll be caught up together to meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the clouds, and thus we'll evermore be with the Lord. The rapture of the church is a very unique thing, and it could happen at any time. It could happen today, tomorrow, the next day. But if it does happen, we'll just disappear. We'll just be gone. And we will then, once we go to heaven, we will all receive our resurrection body. In other words, if you're already passed away when the rapture occurs, you'll come out of that grave and get a resurrection body and you will undergo evaluation. That's what's called the judgment seat of Christ in 1 Corinthians 3, 11 through 15. Every member of the royal family of God will be evaluated. 1 Corinthians 3, 11 through 15. Each one of us will stand before the judgment seat of Christ to evaluate us. That doesn't mean evaluate our sins. They're not going to show a movie projector of all the stupid things you've done. Nobody's going to be selling popcorn and peanuts, letting people laugh and get a good kick out of your failure. That's not the way it goes. If you read 1 Corinthians 3, you'll see that some of the rewards will be called gold, silver, and precious stones. And some of those rewards are wood, hay, and stubble, which means they're useless rewards. The useless rewards are those things you did in the right thing, but you did it in the wrong way. A right thing done in the wrong way, as you know, is still wrong. So a right thing done in the right way, well, that's right. And the judgment seat of Christ will disclose what's the right thing done in the right way called gold, silver, and precious stones. Okay, now as a member of the royal family, which you and I are, that royal family may be identified as the church, called the church. And I'm not talking about your local church, I'm talking about the universal church made up of all individuals who have received Christ as their savior. Sometimes you're identified as the, quote, body of Christ. not just the church, but sometimes the body of Christ. And sometimes the royal family of God is referred to as the bride of Christ. In Revelation 21, nine, and there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues and talked with me and said, come hither and I will show you the bride, the lamb's wife. And that's the church, that's you and I. So here's some points for us to consider today as we look at the royal family of God. Number one, the royal family of God is defined as every church age believer, everyone that's ever accepted Jesus Christ since his resurrection, church age believers, regardless of antecedents, regardless of background, regardless of race, regardless of classification, all of those distinctions are erased the moment you believe in Christ The moment you're reconciled to God through what Christ did for you, no more individual distinctions. You're now a member of the royal family of God, the body of Christ. Two, whatever you were before, you are now royal family, spiritual aristocracy, and this is a permanent royalty that will last forever, forever, throughout all eternity. Our royalty is eternal and it's secure since it's related to our regeneration. And this means that all church age believers like you and I are in full time royal service for the Lord Jesus Christ because we are royal priests and we're royal ambassadors. So point three, the royal family is to provide an invisible impact on human history. The uniqueness to the church age, that's us. That's the impact on human history, the unique to the church age. Because as goes the church age believer, so goes the history of human history. And this phenomena is true only during the church age. So I'm gonna say this again. I'll break it to, say it a different way which you've heard me say it. As goes your spiritual life, so goes the history of the world. As goes your spiritual life, so goes your family. As goes your spiritual life, so goes your nation. It's not depending on who's in office as president. It's not depending on anything like that. It depends on the spiritual aristocracy of believers in the church making up the body of Christ in any generation. And hopefully that's you and that's me. Okay, so point four. The scriptural declaration of our royalty is found in 1 Peter 2 verse nine. Listen to what Peter wrote. But you are an elect race, a royal priesthood, that's you and me, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, so that, or in order that, you may proclaim the virtues of him, that's the Lord Jesus Christ, who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. So, as a royal family member, we have a code of conduct, and we are called to live by this code of conduct. It's a system of spiritual integrity that we are required to live under. And it's revealed in the mystery doctrines of the church. No one ever knew about this before. There was nothing in the Old Testament talked about the insertion of the church. That was all a mystery. Paul taught the mystery doctrines of the church. That was all new stuff. They just thought that, you know, the Lord would come back someday and that'd be it. Nobody thought about it this way until we understood exactly what the scriptures are telling us. We are in a unique dispensation called the church age. The age of Israel has been set aside and will be completed during the tribulation. Seven years of tribulation is the final seven years of Israel's history according to the book of Daniel. So we are in a unique time, unique dispensation with a unique code of conduct, okay? And this is a system of integrity that we're required to live under. And it includes impersonal love for all people and motivated by personal love for God. So here's the key to this thing. If you're a royal family member, you are motivated to be motivated to use impersonal love, motivated by your personal love for God. What do I mean by that? I mean, you're not allowed to hate people. You're not allowed to be mad at anybody. You're not allowed to be jealous of people. Those are sins. Listen to James 2.8. If you're in the royal family, I want to give you the royal law. Here it is. If you fulfill the royal law, James 2.8, according to the scripture, Thou shalt love your neighbor as yourself, end quote. You do well. Now that passage that James wrote is a direct quote from Leviticus 19, 18. Thou shalt not avenge nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. I am the Lord. That almost seems like an impossible task, doesn't it? I mean, what if you got a jerk for a neighbor? What if you got a weirdo for a neighbor and you're supposed to love him? Does that mean you got to go over there and hug his neck and look him in the eye and say, I love you, brother? No, that's not what it's talking about. Impersonal love means that you treat that person the same way God treated you. God loved you when you were a sinner. The Bible says God so loved the world, there it is right there, that he gave his only begotten son. Before you became a Christian, you were loved by God and now that you are a Christian, you are still loved by God, you're just a member of the royal family now. So we are under this royal law. We're not allowed to hate people. We're not allowed to be jealous of people. We're not allowed to be critical of people. Since you are aristocracy by adoption into the family of God, we were adopted. Romans 8, 15, For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you have received the spirit of adoption, whereby we now cry, Dear Father, Abba, Father, So you and I represent our Heavenly Father while we're still stationed on planet Earth. And we are to obey the laws of divine establishment, freedom, marriage, family, nationalism, those four things. We are to obey the laws of divine establishment, as well as the spiritual mandates taught in the scripture. This means that you have to learn to think the right way. You have to have the right kind of thoughts. If you're not thinking right, you're not living right. That's why it's so critical that we understand. The soul's mentality is never to surrender to emotional override, which is seen in some form of self-pity or some form of arrogance, including the dreaded arrogance of self-justification. Our lives as royal family members, spiritual aristocracy must consist of learning the scriptures and thinking or applying the scriptures that we've learned. and solving the problems that control us or confront us by using those 10 problem-solving devices that we teach on our radio show called the FLOT line, F-L-O-T, FLOT line. The FLOT line is made up of 10 unique problem-solving devices. My pastor taught those to me a long time ago, and I'm reteaching them to you. But if you are a mature believer, and that's the objective of you, to get to maturity, if you are a mature believer in the royal family of God, that means that every member of the royal family of God is not mature, I promise you. But if you are, then you have cognitive, or you're aware, you have awareness of your independence. And you don't depend on drugs, you don't depend on alcohol, you don't depend on the opinion of other people. to give you direction or confidence in your life and in the conflicts that you face. So unfortunately, as I just said, not all members of the royal family of God go on to reach spiritual maturity. After salvation, many never grow up. That's a sad part of that life. They never grow up. They never advance due to distractions and discouragement, and they wind up drifting away from their objective. This is something you have to remember. In Hebrews 2.1, therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things we've heard, lest at any time we should let them slip away. One of the things that Satan does is once someone gets saved, he's gonna try to distract them from ever reproducing. He will try to distract them from growing up spiritually. Anything that he can. You know how he does it sometimes? Through religious organizations. They'll get you involved and they'll make you think you're worshiping because you're singing some songs and you're worshiping and getting all emotional and you're never really having an impact for the Lord Jesus Christ because you never learn enough scripture to understand what's going on. You just function under your emotions and that doesn't work that way. Not all members of the royal family of God reach maturity. So it's obvious Satan wishes to prevent the lost man from hearing the gospel, yes. But it's also true that once any individual makes that decision to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, that Satan, aka the devil, will then do everything within his power to distract them from ever fulfilling God's plan for their lives. And it is especially true that he does not want the Christian to reproduce. In 1 Peter 5, eight through nine, the Bible says, be sober. In other words, pay attention. Be vigilant, be on alert, because your adversary, aka the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about seeking who he may devour, whom resists steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. You know, a lion is an amazing individual. It's an amazing animal. It can cover 100 yards in about four and a half seconds. So you don't have much time to get your gun up and aim and shoot. You better not miss. You got four and a half seconds because if you miss, you're dead meat. This is exactly what Satan wants to do with you. Turn you into dead meat. And then you just wind up being a big old pile of stinking leftovers. So Satan goes around like a roaring lion seeking who he can devour. Has he devoured you is my question. Has he distracted you? Has he discouraged you? Even though you're a member of God's royal family and spiritual aristocracy, do you live like that? Do you follow the royal law? Questions to be answered. St. Peter wrote that word of warning to believers who are under attack by satanic forces every day. And this is why members of God's royal family must, must, must consistently be aware of the enemy's tactics. Solomon wrote about it in Proverbs 4, 23 through 27. Listen carefully. This should be a warning to you. Keep vigilant watch over your heart. That's where life starts. Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. Avoid careless banter and white lies. And go forth. All right, don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. Avoid careless manner and white lies and gossip. And keep your eyes straight ahead, ignoring all sideshow distractions. Watch your step, and the road will stretch out smooth before you. Don't look right and don't look left. Leave evil in the dust. Now that's a modified, expanded translation of that verse in Proverbs 4, 23 through 27. I'd like to read it to you one more time. Please keep vigilant, watch over your heart. Remember you have a memory center, you have a heart, you have a mind and a heart. The Bible talks about both of them. The mind is the nous, N-O-U-S in the Greek New Testament. And the heart is the cardia, K-A-R-D-I-A. We get the word cardiology, cardiac. But the heart is where the memory center is. The mind is where we accumulate information. The heart is where we apply the information. So this verse says this is where life starts, in the heart. And then he went on to say, don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. Don't say one thing and do another. And this is what Christians are bad about doing. People will call you a hypocrite because of that. Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. Avoid careless talk, careless banter. Avoid white lies, little lies, you know, like cheated on your income tax or told a lie to your buddy. You know, I love to bass fish. I used to tournament fish all the time. You talk about a bunch of liars. Whoa, my goodness. They'd be more than happy to tell you where they caught fish, but they didn't really catch them. They just don't want to tell you the truth. Oh, yeah, brother, I caught a big one over there by that pier. But actually, he caught it downriver about five miles away. White lies, little lies, trying to distract people. And gossip, stay out of that. You know the difference between gossip and slander? Well, gossip is when you repeat a rumor. Slander is when you repeat a lie. So keep your eyes straight ahead. Don't look around. Don't look at what I'm doing. Don't look at what your sister's doing. Don't look at what your preacher's doing. Look straight ahead into the Word of God. And ignore all the distractions. Watch your step. And then the road will stretch out smooth before you. And don't look right and don't look left. Leave evil in the dust. Again, Proverbs 4, 23 through 27. So in closing, let's not forget we are spiritual aristocracy and our aristocracy is not achieved by means of achievement. Our aristocracy is given on the basis of our relationship with Jesus Christ because we are royal family. And as such members of the royal family of God, we are granted an inheritance of all that Jesus Christ is and all that Jesus Christ has, thus we are here to proclaim the excellencies of him. In 1 Peter 2.9, but you are the ones chosen by God, chosen for the high calling of priestly work, Chosen to be holy people, God's instrument to do his work and to speak out for him and to tell others of the night and day difference that he made for you. From nothing to something. From rejected to accepted. And that's a quote from what's called The Message, another way you can interpret the Bible. First Peter 2.9, a quote from The Message. So we do this in our daily lives, which can be seen in Paul's writings to the church at Ephesus. What did he say? God, but you did not learn Christ in this manner. If indeed you've heard him, you've been taught him, just as truth is in Jesus, that in reference to your former way of life, you are now to rid yourself of the old self, which is corrupted according to the lust of deceit, and you are now to be renewed in the spirit of your mind, the way you think, and to put on the new self, which is in the likeness of God that has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth. So there's the new you, spiritual aristocracy. You're to wear that with honor, with great integrity, with great poise, and it's an amazing thing. Don't forget it, you are spiritual aristocracy, why? because you're a member of the church and because of what the Lord Jesus Christ did for you, you've been adopted into the family of God and made heirs to all that Christ is heir to. What an amazing thing. Now when you leave today, look at your wife, look at your husband, look at your children, and tell them we are spiritual aristocracy because of who and what Christ is. It's wonderful, it's a great blessing, it's a marvelous thing. to be a member of a great family called the royal family of God. Not your earthly family, but your heavenly family. And one day in heaven you will be reconciled with all those that you've known in the past. I can't wait to see a lot of great friends that I know that have gone on to be with the Lord. And you and I will meet up there and we'll all be together. as a great family, the bride of Christ, the church, the body of Christ, the royal family of God. Never thought about that, have you? You are that. You are the royal family of God. That's a good thing to put on your tag. That's a good thing to put on your refrigerator. I'm royal family. Don't forget it. Don't forget the royal law and James and live like you're supposed to live according to Proverbs, what we just read to you there. Any questions, contact us through the website, rickhughesministries.org. And I thank you for listening. We'll be back same time next week, same place. Until then, we appreciate your prayers and your encouragement. And I'm your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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White smoke graced the sky over the Vatican. The catholic faithful and the world then knew that the successor to the deceased Pope Francis had been elected by the conclave of cardinals. The new pope was none other than:
ROBERT PREVOST, 69 YEARS OF AGE.
There was nothing remarkable or new about the election of this pope as there had been several hundred before him, except for one thing. Robert Prevost was an AMERICAN and consequently became the very first American pope in the history of the catholic church. That was a surprise to some, even shocking to others.
Robert Prevost was from Chicago, Illinois. He grew up a baseball fan and his team was the Chicago White Sox. I wonder what he thinks of them these days, a sad sack of a baseball franchise, losers year after year. Prevost rose through the hierarchy of the church as priest, bishop, cardinal, special advisor to Pope Francis, and gained notoriety among the cardinals of the church throughout the world because of his close relationship with Pope Francis.
Now, the world and the catholic faithful wonder what this man really believes, how he thinks, what his social and political values are, and whether or not he will continue the somewhat progressive policies and decision making of Francis or lead the church in a different direction. Conservative cardinals had called for the election of the new pope in the mold of John Paul II, a bold conservative pope, returning the catholic church to its roots, heritage, tradition, but those cardinals were very much in the minority. They indicated to the conclave of cardinals that they strongly felt:
“We desperately need a man of the spirit.”
That plea, however, fell on deaf ears.
One cardinal eloquently stated that our culture (American) and the world at large is one SICK AT HEART. We are, said he:
DIVORCED FROM THE MYSTERIOUS AND THE SACRED.
The real power of the church, convincingly spiritual in nature, has been eroded, resulting in a church fragmented, attendance at mass down and the rituals and traditions in a state somewhat of disrespect and in some sense unnecessary. All of that
such vocal cardinals hoped would change with the election of the new pope, Robert
Prevost, who will be known to the world as:
POPE LEO XIV
And more from the conservative element in the conclave of cardinals. Said one:
“The last thing we need is for spirituality to be updated, modernized, made
relevant to our alienated souls.”
Which of course means that the church needs to return to roots and not re-modernize.
The roman catholic church and the long line of popes harken back in a line to Peter, a
Galilean fisherman, who became a passionate disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ who, in
Peter’s conversion, told him that he would no longer fish for fish but that he would
become a:
FISHER OF MEN,
And, Jesus said, that upon this rock I will build my church. It seems as though this
small, minority group of cardinals was hoping and praying that the new pope would
have as a burning priority the call to all men that they, like Peter, would become
fishers of men, strong believers in the saving grace of Jesus Christ, the real head of the
church, and the son of the Living God. Now, it is up to Pope Leo XIV to show the world
whether that will be so.
The first words of this new pope were encouraging. They were as follows:
“PEACE BE WITH YOU! DEAREST BROTHERS AND SISTERS, THIS WAS THE
FIRST GREETING OF THE RISEN CHRIST, THE GOOD SHEPHERD WHO GAVE HIS
LIFE FOR THE FLOCK OF GOD. I, TOO, WOULD LIKE THIS GREETING OF PEACE TO
ENTER YOUR HEARTS, TO REACH YOUR FAMILIES AND ALL PEOPLE, WHEHEVER
THEY ARE.”
This new pope wants all humankind to believe in the:
RISEN CHRIST
Amen.
Vatican experts however have said that Cardinal Prevost had very similar values to
Francis, having been made a cardinal by Pope Francis. Those priorities were the
championing of the poor and more which others have said indicate a socialistic form of
belief and frame of mind. Time will tell.
President Trump congratulated Robert Prevost and hoped to meet the new pope, while
JD Vance, who converted to Catholicism in 2019, also congratulated Leo XIV and
offered his prayers that God would bless him in his important work.
Vatican experts have compared Pope Leo XIV’s championing of the poor and the
migrants, especially those who made their way to America illegally or not, to that of
Pope Francis. Said one Vatican expert:
“He’s (Robert Prevost) right out of Francis’ playbook.”
If so, that will come as a disappointment to the conservative element in the catholic
church and in the conclave of cardinals. It is very probable that Pope Leo XIV will
follow very much in the footsteps of Pope Francis.
Vatican experts have also theorized that the church has long hesitated to name an
American pope because of the United States’ status as a global superpower. They fear
the concentration of power. However, they do believe that Pope Leo XIV will have a
global perspective and tend to the needs of the global church.
Time will tell. The catholic church faces some pressing issues including migration,
wars, climate change, inclusion of LGBTQ Catholics, women in church leadership, and
the Trump presidency which Pope Leo XIV eschews and has shown disagreement and
even disrespect for President Trump. He made a somewhat encouraging statement
about the western media as follows:
“Extraordinarily effected in fostering within the general public enormous
sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel.”
Leo XIV also said that he opposes ordaining women which will be disappointing to
more modern catholic elements.
The bottom line of course, especially to evangelical and born-again Christians, is that
the head of the church, the real church, is none other than:
JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF.
Everything that matters about Christianity comes from Him and is about Him,
including the salvation process. Conservative Catholics want the church (and the new
pope) to return to conservative principles, the real roots of the church, and to become
a spiritual force and not a political one. Today, say church experts, everything turns
political or becomes involved, and in the case of the catholic church, the real mission
becomes watered down. We should hope that this new pope will once again emphasize
and reprioritize the most essential belief in all of Christendom, and the church of
Jesus Christ, that HE is the cornerstone, the rock, the central force in all of
Christendom.
Why does the media shy away from labeling acts of violence as terrorism? In this episode, Mike explores this pressing question, dissecting the intricate interplay between political allegiances and media coverage. Through detailed examination, he sheds light on the complexities of immigration policies and their effects on national security, challenging listeners to rethink what they read and hear and bring their perspectives to the fore.
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Whenever America faces a catastrophic event, a tumultuous thing, I remind myself that it's my responsibility to be responsible. But I feel so many emotions right now after this apparent terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado, that I need to be focused. I want to be responsible. I want to be careful. But I've got headlines blaring out at me right now. that have a supposed conservative New York Times columnist comparing Elon Musk to Pol Pot, one of the worst mass murderers in history. I've got Democrats like Cory Booker doing the Nazi salute at a speech, and we're supposed to pretend that they didn't eviscerate Elon Musk for having done the same thing. We've got college campuses who scream, free, free Palestine. We have acts of anti-Semitism seemingly exploding, burning down the governor's mansion in Pennsylvania, two young kids slaughtered outside of a Jewish event in Washington, D.C., and now yesterday in the sanctuary city of Boulder, Colorado, a reportedly illegal immigrant, burning Jews alive. And we're supposed to accept that they think they're the good guys. Again, trying real hard to be real responsible today. We've got such a reluctance to call a spade a spade. something that is as plain as the nose under our face. Do you understand that over on CNN, they were angrier at calling the attack of a man yelling, free Palestine, and throwing Molotov cocktails and lighting Jews on fire, elderly Jews on fire. You know what they were angry about over at CNN? I'll violate my rule, my inclination to try to avoid CNN clips, but you've got to hear this one.
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Lots of people are saying lots of things. But when the Boulder police chief comes out and says, we don't have two plus two equaling four yet. In other words, it's obviously an anti-Semitic attack and the victims were obviously part of that group. Therefore, we're not calling it terrorism. It adds a lot of it's not it's not good for the community. It's not good for the community. the potentially targeted community. It makes law enforcement look disorganized and it makes the FBI look so juvenile. Like, why are you getting ahead of the police chief who who says, I don't know what this is? It sounds maybe it is what we all think it is, but maybe it's not. And he has no incentive to get it wrong. So we're going to take a step back. not be responsive to tweets by two heads of the FBI who don't have a long history in local law enforcement. And we will wait and hope it isn't what we all worry it is. And if it is, then there'll be an investigation. But that was that's like nothing I'd ever seen before.
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Shocking, shocking for the FBI to say that this is Evidently an act of terror. They're juvenile. That woman, incidentally, is described as senior national security analyst at CNN. She ain't the junior national security analyst. She's the senior national security analyst. And who's the first place, what's the first thing they do on the loony left? When a guy is yelling free Palestine and is evidently a guy, a Middle Eastern illegal in Boulder, Colorado, spraying elderly Jewish victims with flammable liquid and lighting them on fire, what's the first thing they do? Blame Trump. Blame Kash Patel. Blame today's FBI. It's Trump's fault. It's Trump's fault. They're juvenile. Why are you getting ahead of the police chief who said, I don't know what this is? A guy from Egypt screaming free Palestine named Mohammed lighting Jews on fire in Boulder, Colorado, and CNN is upset at calling... What appears to be an obvious terror attack, a terror attack. My gosh. Lord, help us. God, help us. There is such evil right now on the airwaves, in the atmosphere, in this country. We've got a lot of good people trying to do good things. And I know we have more good people doing good things than bad. But let's face it, the bad is really bad. Really bad. Welcome in. It's Monday, June the 2nd. We're in the Relief Factor studios with a lot of breaking news today. Good day for you to text and a new phone number for you today because we're having some phone issues. But, hey, this is a caller-driven show. I told the team, move heaven and earth and make it happen, and they did. Ready for the new phone number for today only? 217-618-MIKE. You'll remember that by the end of the show. Just use it early. 217-618-6453. That's the number to come on air with me, and I want to put your voice front and center here on the Mike Gallagher Show. 217-618-6453. Now, it's also a good day for you to text, and since we are having some call-in problems, the text line is still working. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. West Virginia writes, it's interesting to me that the guy burning the Jews, screaming free Palestine, is from Egypt, and they won't let Gazans into their country just five feet away. Colorado, Leon, I'm sure Dan Bongino has way more local law enforcement experience than that CNN national security analyst. Well, look, this is what we're up against. We're up against a brand of evil that we've never seen before. That's what's so ironic. The left and the Trump haters think he is a brand of evil that we've never experienced as a country. But the truth is, taking the side of people who burn Jews alive under the guise of standing up for the Palestinians, they think they're the good guys. Let that sink in. They think they're on the right side. And we have our work cut out for us, don't we? 14 past the hour. Again, our special number today, 217-618-7000. Mike, 217-618-6453. Give that number a ring. Eric's got the – that's our plan B for our phone lines today. And I want to get your reaction to what happened in Boulder. I want to get your take on exactly what happened there. I want to get your reaction to all of it here on the Mike Gallagher Show for a busy Monday. Again, you can still text on the normal number, which is 800-655-MIKE. But the new call-in line for today only, 217-618-MIKE. 217-618-6453. Your voice, your call, your perspective coming up. PhD weight loss has changed my life. And I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this... are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me, I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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I think the American people ought to be saying to Elon, thank you, thank you, thank you. He came and spent four months working for the American people, free of charge, didn't collect a salary, made nothing. He rooted out massive waste, fraud, and abuse, and he did so at enormous cost to himself.
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I am really intrigued by the Nazi gesture debate. It fascinates me. Tennessee just wrote a text message on the MyPillow text line. I think it was Cory Booker's way of saying good riddance to Elon Musk. At least that's how the Democrats are going to try to paint it. Well, yeah, but if you condemn a Nazi salute because Elon Musk did it, then you're going to do the Nazi salute? I'm telling you, there's no reason with these people. There's no way to have a reasonable dialogue with people who are so far gone. And they're so enraged at what Trump is accomplishing. I saw Scott Besant yesterday with Margaret Brennan on CBS Face the Nation. Inflation is dropping like a boulder. It's the lowest it's been in years. And Margaret Brennan and CBS and all the rest of them promised that inflation would be skyrocketing over Trump's tariffs. Skyrocketing! And all these numbers contradict the narrative. I mean, how can you take anybody seriously that fails to give... Anyone else to benefit of the doubt if they're affiliated with Donald Trump? David Brooks, guy who's been around 100 years, New York Times columnist, PBS guy. Whatever you think of Doge, whatever you think of it, and look, if you don't want government to be more efficient, if you think that government operates just fine and there's no waste, fraud, or abuse... And you think Elon Musk is really a dummy? You know, he's not really all that smart. He's not that, you know, OK, that's fine. But David Brooks says, wait a minute, folks, hold my beer. It's not enough to complain about Doge and the policies of the Trump administration to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. No, no, no, no, no, no. We got to call Elon Musk back. one of the biggest mass murderers in the history of the world. When I first heard this, I thought, there's no way. Oh, yeah. Way.
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There's folks at Boston University who count how many people have died because of what Doge did at USAID. And USAID was a very ill-managed organization. That's true. But according to the Boston University folks, so far 55,000 adults have died of AIDS in the four months since Trump was elected. 6,000 children are dead because of what Doge did. That's just PEPFAR, the HIV. You add them all up, that's 300,000 dead, and we're four months in. Now, you add, accumulate that over four years, the number of dead grows very high. There are mass murderers in the world, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Stalin. We don't have anybody on the list for America. And I don't think it's the same as committing the kind of genocide they did. But by taking away that agency and being at least semi-responsible for the deaths of probably by the end of this, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, that's Elon Musk's legacy. And the people who work at Tesla and SpaceX, why don't you want to think about that?
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Yeah, what do you think about that? If you work for a fantastic company like Tesla or SpaceX or any of the other innovative companies that David Brooks couldn't put together in a million years, all he can do is spout that kind of venom. Elon Musk is Pol Pot. Elon Musk, because some Boston University professor claims that thousands of children have died in four months. Hey, if a Boston University professor said it, it must be true, right? It's got to be so. No way the numbers are suspect. No, no way. This is today's media. And these freaks are amping up. lunatics like the guy in Boulder, Colorado, or the guy in Washington, D.C., or the guy in Pennsylvania. I mean, look at this. In just the last two months, people, I guess, that are on David Brooks' side of the ideological equation, just two months, tried to set the Jewish governor of Pennsylvania's home on fire with his family inside. Gunned down a young, beautiful couple in D.C., Firebomb Jews at a vigil for hostages in Boulder, Colorado. You don't think this is a terrorist movement? And what does David Brooks do? Elon Musk is the pole pot. Donald Trump is the Hitler. David Brooks, who acknowledges the horrific way USAID has been run. I mean, you heard him say it. Oh, it was mismanaged. He kind of mumbles through that. So they're trying to clean up the mess, and of course they're killing babies. Matt Vespa over at Town Hall says, I'm a little shocked it took this long for a hoax of this nature to drop. It's meant to attack the work done by Doge. Undoubtedly it was meant to deliver a haymaker to Elon. But they've whipped out some fake study by a Boston University professor showing that the USAID cuts have killed 300,000 people in a matter of a few weeks. Matt Vespa says, the smug atmosphere says it all. Some college professors said this, so it must be true. The shoddy and plagiarist infested confines of academia said something, so it must be true, right? Where's the evidence? Where's the study? Yeah, Matt Vespa says, I'm calling BS on this. But it's the latest hoax. USAID. Did you see Bono, the singer from YouTube, said there's no solid evidence before Joe Rogan reminded him that USAID was a slush fund operation? It was a money laundering operation. No oversight, no receipts. Tons of fraud, tons of money laundering. And what's David Brooks claiming? So you've got an organization like Doge and you've got Trump trying to clean it up and fix the mess? Oh, they're killing men, women, and children. Elon is Pol Pot. So I'm sure David Brooks isn't surprised at all the violence that Tesla owners have experienced. Maybe David Brooks needs to go out and get, you know, a sledgehammer and start bashing some Teslas. He's Pol Pot. Unreal. There's so much evil out there right now. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, 25 bucks. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com. Use the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me.
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There's an expression you see on the Internet a lot, particularly on X, that says you don't hate the media enough. You don't despise legacy media enough. And I know there's plenty of good people from all walks of life who work in all kinds of platforms and media organizations. But I'm looking at the stuff that ABC News and the New York Times is posting about the terrorism attack in Boulder, Colorado yesterday. And it actually is beyond parody. This is right out of satire. This is satirical. This can't be real. Ann Coulter just reposted the New York Times saying, you thought I was joking. The New York Times claimed that a migrant, quote-unquote, who merely overstayed his visa, is a, quote, legal immigrant, unquote. That's the New York Times takeaway on this 45-year-old monster who burned Jews alive. He's been charged with first-degree murder. Evidently, the elderly Holocaust survivor is near death. You've got... college graduation ceremonies taking place all over the country, MIT, Harvard, of course, screeching about Israel and its genocide, ignoring the atrocities committed by Hamas, pretending that Hamas is just an organization made up of, you know, well-meaning freedom fighters. And so the New York Times calls this 45-year-old guy in Boulder, a migrant, he just overstayed his visa, and he's a legal immigrant. Today, the New York Times doubled down. Here's their headline. I kid you not. Suspect in Boulder attack was in U.S. illegally, quote, unquote, Homeland Security Department says. They put illegally in quotes. like it's up for debate. Evidently, the guy is absolutely 1,000% an illegal immigrant. Whether you sneak into this country illegally across the Rio Grande or you're on a temporary visa and you stay here after the time which you're supposed to leave, you are illegal. But the New York Times headline says, suspect in Boulder attack was in U.S., quote, illegally, unquote. I could do you one better. I was just scrolling through X a moment ago, and I looked at the ABC News X account. I mean, look, I don't mean to laugh. It's nervous laughter because I want to cry. I really do. I just want to hang my head and cry. Here's the ABC News post from about an hour ago. Actually, it was at 9.01 a.m. June 2, 2025. Let me read it to you. The man suspected of carrying out an, quote, act of terrorism, unquote, during a pro-Israel demonstration in Boulder, Colorado, leaving eight people in the hospital, is in the U.S. illegally, according to the Department of Homeland Security. They put act of terrorism in quotes. They don't want to call it an act of terrorism in the newsroom of ABC, right? The man suspected of carrying out a, quote, act of terrorism. Let me ask you a question. Do you think they ever put the word insurrection in quotes after January 6th? Do you think they ever let that be up for debate? ABC, CNN, New York Times, NBC, Washington Post, all of them, they declared... That was an insurrection inspired and led by Donald Trump. Donald Trump attempted to hang Mike Pence. Donald Trump told people to go riot. Donald Trump caused an insurrection at the Capitol on January 6th. And I can promise you, they never put the word insurrection in quotes. This guy, yelling free Palestine, burns Jews alive. His name is Mohammed from Egypt. Here illegally. And the New York Times says, well, he just overstayed his visa. He's a legal immigrant. He's a migrant. Watching them dance around a terrorist act is completely mystifying to me. And I want to turn to the smartest audience in America and ask you why they do this. Why are they afraid to call an act of terror, terror? I get tribalism. I understand we're all on our sides. You're on your side if you're a lefty. I'm on my side if you're right of center. Or conservative or far right or far left. I get all that. Why do... institutional media organizations dance around calling an act of terror terror. And it's not just the media. I mean, Boulder, Colorado is a sanctuary city. Is it safe to assume Boulder is a blue city run by Democrats? Here's the police chief, a guy named Stephen Redferrin, talking to reporters after a guy... screams free Palestine and end the Zionists, douses and lights on fire Jewish pro-Israel peaceful protesters. And here's what the police chief said.
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FBI is already calling it a targeted terror attack. Would you also refer to it as a terror attack?
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So I've been in contact with our local FBI multiple times. We are in contact with them here. We are not calling it a terror attack at this point. Again, it's way too early to speculate motive. You know, I know there's a lot out there on social media, but I asked people. just to give us a little bit of patience while we work through a really complex scene. A lot of witnesses were here. We've taken them to another location to debrief them and interview them. As we do that, I think the picture will become more clear, but it would be irresponsible for me to speculate on motive this early on. We're only a couple hours into this thing.
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Yeah, hard to speculate. The guy yelling free Palestine and lighting Jews on fire. That's hard to speculate. It's very complicated. Now, this is very complicated. This is hard to figure out. Not real sure why this was happening. So I'm going to turn it over to you. You've got to tell me. Why do people like that guy and the media and others on the left... and presumably they're all on the left, why are they afraid to call an act of terror an act of terror? They're not afraid to call a riot at the Capitol an insurrection. Guarantee you that. So a guy from Egypt screaming free Palestine and burning Jews alive, well, I'm not going to speculate. That would be irresponsible. CNN flat out called the FBI responsible. Juvenile and disorganized for daring to call it an act of terror. So my question to you is, why? Why do they do this? I'm going to throw open our phone lines, and we have a special number for you today. We've got some phone issues over at Master Control, but Eric Hansen, being the Iron Man that he is, came up with a workaround. Here's the number, the special number for you to join me today, and today only, we hope. 217-618-MIKE. Pretty easy number to remember. The text line still works. If you want to text me your feedback at 800-655-MIKE, you can text 800-655-6453. But if you want to call me and come on air with me, which I hope you will do, the number is 217-618-MIKE. 217-618-6453. I hope you join us here in the Relief Factor Studios.
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You get up after you got shot, you're bleeding from your ear, and you go fight, fight, fight. You've got to be a crazy person to get through. He's a nightmare for anybody that's trying to rig a system. That guy's the nightmare. He's the final boss of you.
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A lot of great answers coming in on the MyPillow text line about why the media, why the left, why people who oppose Donald Trump, it seems, and really oppose Republicans in general, don't want to call a terrorist act a terrorist act. I think a lot of it has to do with Trump. Sherry in South Carolina says they can't dare be in agreement with Trump on any level. If you dare call this what we all know it to be, terrorism, Oh, how dare they? How dare they take Trump's side? Wisconsin sent a text message on the MyPillow text line. I totally agree with that last caller who said they don't know God. They don't know the truth. They're lost souls. Unfortunately, they're narcissists. It's all about their feelings. The friendships that I've lost over Trump, the people that decided to Stop being my friend. They have one trait in common. And I'm not saying this to attack them because it still hurts. Some of them actually surprise me, but they're narcissists. It's always about them first and how they're feeling and everything revolves around them. And that, to me, is the common denominator here. Finally, from Robert from Texas, the reason they don't call it an act of terror is that by saying that, that makes the past four years of open borders a bad thing. This is the part that we're losing. The aspect of this Colorado attack is being one of the biggest revelations is that the guy is reportedly an illegal immigrant. Boulder, Colorado is a sanctuary city. Check out what Paul Morrow, who is former law enforcement, I believe retired law enforcement, if I'm not mistaken, a Fox News contributor, here's what he said on Fox the other day, or last night.
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One of the talking points is going to be the fact that he would not have been here and should not have been here if we were actually enforcing our immigration laws. I think for the purposes of the investigation now and the prosecution and what charges are brought, etc., what they're going to be particularly interested in. Is any of the contacts that he had back home? He's here now. It's about three years. So any conversations he had back then may or may not be pertinent. But was he reaching back home? Was he in contact with bad elements overseas? These are the things that those U.S. attorneys that spoke at the press conference and the D.A., they're going to be looking at very hard so they can figure which way to go with this investigation.
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That's former NYPD Inspector Paul Morrow. On Fox News. You can't go down that route. And this is what it's all about. The centerpiece of Donald Trump's presidency has been, both times, has been to enforce border security, to shut down, to seal the border, to crack down on illegal immigration. And they're screaming and they're whining and they're complaining and they've got stories about family. We knew that was, you knew that was coming. Families being separated. So if a guy that commits a heinous act, like burning Jews alive in Boulder, Colorado, while screaming, free, free Palestine, if you acknowledge that this guy is here illegally, it makes Trump right. It vindicates him. And they don't dare do that. That's the point. They can't do that. But yet, life is getting in their way. I got to share this Harry Enten. Now, this is a guy, I guarantee he's not a conservative, but he's a numbers guy. He's a data guy on CNN. And for decades, Democrats always polled ahead of the GOP when it comes to politics. Who looks out for the middle class? Who looks out for taxpaying Americans? And again, for decades, the Democrats have always dominated in this category. Not anymore. Check out the shock and surprise in CNN's Harry Enten's voice when he shares this latest data, this latest polling.
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There's four months of the Donald Trump presidency that you expect that Democrats would have this massive lead on the economy. It ain't so, it ain't so. The party that is closest to your economic views, in November of 2023, it was the Republicans by 11 points. Now it's still within that range, still within that margin of error, plus a point advantage for the Republican Party. How is that possible, Democrats? How is that possible after all the recession fears, after the stock market's been doing all of this, after all the terrorists that Americans are against? And Republicans still hold an eight point lead on the economy. Are you kidding me?
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This is a CNN. This is new CNN polling. How is that when we look for trends? How is that trending with other data that you're pulling in?
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Yeah, if it was just this one CNN poll, that would be one thing. But take a look at Reuters Ipsos. What do we see here? Party with a better economic plan. Well, in May of twenty twenty four, just before Donald Trump was reelected president, Republicans had a nine point advantage. Look at where we are now in May of twenty twenty five. The advantage actually went up by three points. Now Republicans have a 12-point advantage when it comes to the party with a better economic plan. And again, this is after months of supposed economic uncertainty in which the stock market's been going bonkers, in which the tariff wars that Americans are against have been going on. And yet, despite all of that, the Democrats are down by 12 points. points on the economy. This speaks to Democratic problems on the economy better than basically anything that you could possibly look at. The Republicans still hold an advantage on the all-important key issue of the day, and that is the reason why, even if Donald Trump's approval ratings are a little bit lower than they used to be, Republicans are not out of the ballgame because they still have a clear advantage on the economy, whether you look at CNN's polls or whether you look at the Ipsos poll right here, in which they have a 12-point advantage on the economy.
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The best part is when he looks into the camera and says, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? You mean Americans trust the GOP more than the Democrats? Are you kidding me? And the lady comes along and says, and that's the CNN poll? Harry, are you having a stroke? Are you sure that's our own poll? Harry, are you telling me the CNN? Are you kidding? You know, that's because the Trump economy will work. They better get that big, beautiful bill passed because that right now, the only thing that can get in the way of Republican success are Republicans. The only ones that can get in the way, the only ones that can snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory are Republican malcontents. And that better not happen. That better not happen. We better get it right. We better get it right.
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Did you see what David Brooks said, the New York Times columnist about Elon? David Brooks compared Elon Musk to history's greatest mass murderers, including Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin. That's David Brooks, Mark.
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And for those who don't know, David Brooks, listen, anybody's a conservative at the New York Times if you're not a communist. But this was a guy offered up as the conservative columnist, and he's written and said some things of value over the years, just not lately. What in the world was the basis of that observation?
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The basis is that they're going with the narrative that millions and millions of children are already dead because of cuts to USAID. And incidentally, all of those numbers are bogus. All of that is suspect. But he got on the PBS NewsHour on Saturday and said... So far, 55,000 adults have died of AIDS in the four months since Trump was elected. 6,000 children are dead because of what Doge did. You add them all up, that's 300,000 dead. Now, first of all, that doesn't even add up, but 300,000, you add that up, he said there are mass murderers in the world, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Stalin. We don't have anybody on the list from America. So Elon Musk is Pol Pot. And of course, yeah, there you go. And so we're surprised when all these acts of violence continue to occur against. Why are we surprised?
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We shouldn't be in the media culture. It went with a completely false story. Anytime you hear something from the Gaza health ministry, also known as, you know, the propaganda arm of Gaza. about how many civilian deaths and how horrible the Israelis are. Listen, it is a war, and I understand that, but it should be the job of the American media culture to see through the lies of the terrorist half of that war. So they ran with a completely false story of wanton Israeli carnage, and then I think the next couple of days we get this guy in Boulder That can't be an accident. I put my toe in the pool of this in my opening monologue. I won't run it by you because it's exactly what you just brought up. No, we did not say that the guy who shot up the Bernie Sanders supporter shoots up the baseball field. That's not the fault of every Democrat at all. But when something does seem to be a movement, when the words issuing from this Molotov cocktail slewing guy, free Palestine, are coming from students at Columbia University, That doesn't make every student at Columbia, doesn't put a flaming Molotov cocktail in his hand, but it makes them part and parcel of a movement that is indeed rhetorically about the violent eradication of Israel, and we can't be blind to that.
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Well, I mean, it goes back to what we said about how their side tries to pretend that they're the oppressed good guys. You know, I mean, you go down, I know it's a lot of tribalism here. I was thinking a lot about this. I watched the profile that CBS Sunday Morning did on Elon yesterday. And, you know, it was it was pretty it wasn't they made a big deal out of the fact that there's this supposed rift between Trump and Elon and Elon's leaving in a huff. And he really isn't. I mean, he was always going to leave in May, June. There's no real shock about the timing of this. But I started thinking about this. Is there anybody in Trump's orbit that they like? Think about that for just a moment. Is there anybody that's close in Trump world that the media, that the Democrats like? Now, look at what we do. I'll compare it to our side. We do, like a lot of people are like, it's John Fetterman, not bad. You know, this, this, that Bill Maher really makes some good points. They never say that about anybody in Trump world. In other words, They're so deceptive and they're so biased that they will not give grace or quarter to anybody in Trump world. So you can't believe anything they say about any of it.
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The first thing that occurs to me about your 100 percent correct observation, there's an asterisk attached to it and it goes as follows. What is it makes conservatives kind of dig Bill Maher? What is it makes us think that Fetterman is there's a good dude in there somewhere? It's because they separate from their crazy, bug-eyed leftism in order to be pretty reasonable, even pretty centrist, populist, even conservative on a couple of things. Yep. Nobody in Trump world is doing that. You know the way to make Democrats love you if you're a Republican? Be George W. Bush. Be Paul Ryan. Be John McCain. Be David Brooks. And we have hounded them from the tent. Thank God we have hounded them from positions of authority in our party.
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And let's look at the Boulder terrorist attack yesterday. You want to know what CNN was upset about? They were angry over at CNN last night at the FBI. You know why? Because the FBI dared to suggest it was a terrorist attack. I mean, that lunatic, the one that disgraced Andrew McCabe, he was furious. He said, these are juveniles that would rush to conclusions. They were angrier at the suggestion that the guy with the foreign accent yelling free Palestine that is pouring gas on elderly Jews, they're angrier that that would be described as a terror attack than they are the attack itself. I know. This is where, there's the tell. That's the giveaway. I mean, and here's the other giveaway. You know this guy's apparently an illegal immigrant.
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Yeah, he was here illegally and then overstayed his visa. So, yes, illegally here.
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Yeah, he's here illegally. He's an illegal immigrant. He overstayed a visa. He didn't go back. So, and not for nothing, Boulder, Colorado. sanctuary city baby you know so we got an illegal in in a sanctuary city committing these kinds of atrocities and guess who's noticing that in the mainstream media nobody they don't even point that out they don't new york times yeah the curious reporters aren't so curious about connecting those dots so this is i mean they're not curious about cory booker can we talk about the nazi salute for a Because this makes me crazy. Now, for Cory Booker to do the... He did exactly the same thing Elon did. And, of course, the curious media doesn't want to cover it at all. If you do a side-by-side comparison, it's exactly the... Now, first of all, you and I have given a lot of speeches. I've been in front of a lot of crowds. You've been in front of a lot of crowds. We've been in a lot of...
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You have? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. That's not a gesture that would come to mind. I'd probably be fairly conscious of extending my arm. Have I ever given an extended wave? I'm probably waving, which dissolves you. Well, that's not a wave.
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That's taking your hand on... Again, it's like Cory Booker mimicked exactly what Elon did. Now, Elon was a Nazi for doing it. He's Hitler. It's clearly a Nazi gesture. Days and days. Now, Cory Booker does the exact same thing. Of course, they don't cover it at all. But here's my question to you. I'm in the weeds on this. Cory Booker did that on purpose. There's no way that's accidental. There's no way he's so oblivious. He puts his hand over his chest. He thrusts his arm out like a Nazi salute. And again, it looks pretty Nazi-esque to me.
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I think it's completely incidental. I think we are, and I don't just mean we, you, and me, but the world is so geared and so primed and so front-loaded to go, Nazi salute, that we're just particularly attentive to that.
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But Cory Booker, of all people, was aware of the Elon salute. And that's why I'm saying I think he's gaslighting. I think he's like saying, watch what I'll do. Let's see if I get away with this. And he did. I mean, the media is barely. Look at the headline over at Mediaite. MAGA influencers go nuts over. Oh, yeah, just MAGA. Conservative. Oh, my gosh.
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In another segment, Dana discusses the shifting perceptions within the Democratic Party, tackling the apparent disconnect with working-class Americans. This engaging episode also unravels the narratives around progressivism, questioning when and how it started to lose its cultural influence. Dana's sharp commentary provides insights into the current political climate while questioning the mainstream narratives that dominate our news.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Don't do this. Yellowstone National Park, a Florida man was injured when he was gored by a bison. said the National Park Service. A bison, this is the first reported incident of a person injured by a bison in Yellowstone this year. Park ain't been open for two weeks. And immediately somebody's out there getting gored. And guess why? Do you think it was because he was minding a respectful distance from the bison? No. No, he wanted to get up and close and personal with it. So he got minor injuries, was treated by emergency medical personnel. You're told to keep, in fact, Yellowstone requires that you keep 25 yards away from the animals up there and 100 yards away from bears and wolves. 25 from all large animals, 100 yards from bears and wolves. And bison have injured more people in Yellowstone than any other animal. They're not aggressive. But when people get up in their faces, yeah, nobody likes that. Not even me. I'd gore you too if I had horns. And then in May 2024, a dude kicked a bison in the leg. And guess what? It kicked him back and injured him. And then he got arrested and jailed because he kicked a bison. Just don't be a moron and don't like try to go up and get a selfie with it. And everything's cool, right? It's so simple. I mean, this is not hard. If a kid tells you that there's somebody in their closet, maybe just don't disregard it. Like if you're this kid, a Florida man was arrested because he was hiding in a kid's bedroom closet. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. This Florida man, he ran away from law enforcement, fled into a home and hid in a kid's bedroom closet. Liberty County Sheriff Robert Arnold deputies got a call on Tuesday about a suspicious person. The guy identified as Bobby McKenzie. He took off on a four wheeler and ditched it, ran into a house. And they yeah, they found him hiding in a child's bedroom closet. And the individuals who called it in, they said thank you to them. The guy had a warrant out for aggravated assault. He also had, oh gosh, he hid a bag containing a bunch of meth and all kinds of drug paraphernalia under the kid's bed. Man, oh man, I'm telling you. A Florida man got pulled over and then led police on a foot chase. After they caught him, they laughed and said, you thought you were Usain Bolt. Yeah, well, that's funny. It is. He led cops on a foot chase through Daytona Beach. Xavier McCall, you don't need to have an apostrophe after the X. Okay, there's literally no need because the name is, okay, I can't even do this story. The name is X-A-V-I-E-R. The apostrophe is there to symbolize the absence of a vowel and yet connect the word. But it's X-A, Xavier, and that's how it's spelled. You don't need an apostrophe to make your cheap broke ass look fancy. Stop it. That's so stupid. Who named you? Your mother ought to be arrested because she's dumb. They could not provide. Who does the name like this? That's like having your name Amber and an apostrophe after the A and between the A and M. Shut up. They could not provide Daytona, Xavier McCall with an apostrophe, could not provide Daytona Beach officers with his license. He said he was in his grandma's vehicle. They asked him to get off. He took off. And they were able to catch him, cornered him, and take him into custody. And he's in the pokey now. So, yeah, they go, you're not supposed to be breathing like that from a short little run, dude. so clearly he his cardio was bad i love the body cam footage when they're chasing him too watch under here there this guy was not getting far and he and the cops were like dude you're younger than us you should be faster than this and one of them said that the dude smoked too much and that's why he didn't he didn't have good blood circulation or cardio he also thought his grandma's car all the way can i just keep that keep this footage going doesn't it look like the cop running his arms are just crazy He's like one of those blow-up dolls outside of a car dealership. His arms just look mad when he's running. Let's see here. Oh, by the way, our Bison story came from Florida Man Keith. Or no, Listener Keith. Our Florida Man Bison story came from Listener Keith. So thank you from that. Let's see. Drunk Florida Man crashes his Tesla. This is a Villages story. It's a Villages story. A Villages story. A villager, Minecraft, crashed his Tesla in a roundabout. Of course he did. And then when police came, he made up a fictional girlfriend and said, no, it's, yeah, Stacy, my girlfriend Stacy. He literally made up a whole woman. and fabricated a name, and told police that Stacy crashed his Tesla and ran away. I know. And so the man, after he crashed the roundabout, he flooded the village of Hawkins, and they found 63-year-old Jeffrey Treadwell dead. Uh, it matched descriptions. He began blaming his girlfriend. He said, Stacy did it. Stacy ran away after she crashed into the roundabout. And, uh, he goes, it's a girl I met in Brownwood. Stacy's her name. And, uh, he was drinking. I mean, clearly. And they concluded that Stacy was completely made up. So they booked him in Sumter County detention center and he was released on $1,100 bond. Yeah, that's not, can you imagine? Yeah, it was Stacy that did it. Yeah, I'm going to start using that excuse. I didn't do it. Stacy did it. Stacy also crashed that car in that roundabout down there in Florida. Did you hear about that? Did you hear about what Stacy did? That floozy.
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The Democratic Party has in some ways become too much seen by too many Americans as the party of elites and institutions that have failed them. If you were talking about democracy over the dinner table, you probably didn't have to worry about the cost of the food on that table. If you had to worry about the cost of the food on your table, you're probably talking about that. And so I worry that the party of working people, the self-styled party of working people, is perceived by working people as elite and disdainful and removed from their experience.
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So that's David Axelrod. kind of giving like a postmortem of what has gone wrong with the Democrat Party. And I talked a little bit about this on Jesse Waters' program last night. And over at Substack, I have a piece up about this right now. It's not cool to be progressive anymore. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this second hour now. Keep in mind that when I say, when I'm talking about progressivism, because I asked this question on X last night, and I am fascinated by the responses to this. I asked, when do you think progressivism became uncool? And by uncool, what I mean is, and you know this, everyone and everything that was considered included in our cultural zeitgeist was liberal slash progressive. Like Reagan ruined the word liberal for liberal, so now they changed it to progressive. Hollywood, art, academics, all of it. In order to be seen in those industries or be considered of influence in those industries, you... have to be from the left right that's just the nature that's something you all accept you know that if you're not that you would but if you were to watch the Oscars you know that it's going to be all leftist stuff right that's just the way it is so that's that was accepted it was always considered cool right the left was always portrayed as being the quote-unquote open-minded or intellectual and deep-thinking kind of movement, right? They wanted the veneer of classical liberalism while being illiberal themselves. So that's what I mean when I say cool. Not like anyone thought they were hip or anything like that, but that's what I mean by this. And I was thinking about this last night because I read this piece Over at, where is it at? It's the Wall Street Journal. And it was called, quote, how MAGA is taking back the culture. And the subhead is in sports, entertainment and marketing displays of conservatism are crowding out progressive postures. And it was it's an interesting piece. And I cited it in my sub stack piece that I sent out to all of you subscribers yesterday. So, like, for instance, this is what the article says. Instead of taking a knee to call for social justice, NFL players are now doing the Trump dance in the end zone of football games. Mainstream entertainers, among them the country singer Carrie Underwood and even rapper Snoop Dogg, agreed to perform at events celebrating Donald Trump's inauguration, something the Wall Street Journal adds music stars largely shunned eight years ago. A new generation of Trump-friendly comedians and wellness influencers are populating YouTube and other social media, while a snippet of audio featuring Barron and Melania has become one of the hottest online memes. And celebrities such as Paris Hilton and brands, including Frontier Airlines, use it in their TikTok and Instagram posts. And I was thinking about this. I'm like, so think about how hard... the left had to work to go at Trump and make him look toxic. Like it was very contrived and it took all of the left and it took all of their, their, influence in academia. And it took all of Hollywood and all of the film industry and the music industry and everybody in the media, magazines, you know, it doesn't matter if it was a news media, it could be Vogue. It took all of these people colluded. They all worked together, this contrived hatred for not just Trump, but the right. And look how fast it dissipated. after the election. Look at how quickly, look how quickly. That's the other aspect of this that is so fascinating to me. It entirely dissipated after the election, except for maybe a few strongholds within the left, right? And they made an entire industry out of fomenting hate for Trump and for the right, an entire industry. And then when voters got the chance to choose between normal and bat crap crazy, they choose normal. They chose normal. It was the normie election, right? They wanted normal prices, normal lives, normal bills, normal problems, normal things, a normal society, a normal world. They weren't asking for the world. They just wanted normalcy. It's all they wanted. You had Democrats like James Carville, to his credit. Now, I think he's wrong about so many things, but he's not unreasonable. I think he plays up the nastiness for the base sometimes. But he was sounding the alarm on this forever ago. And we played those audio soundbites on air and you just heard David Axelrod. David Axelrod started about a year or so ago. warning about, well, wait a minute, do the radicals know what they're going to get if they keep pushing this? Because they were watching voter enthusiasm. They were watching voter turnout amongst the left for midterms and then municipal elections and things like that. And they were also watching the coalition dwindle. You might remember, I think it was 10 years ago. No, I think it was longer than 10 years ago. When Democrats changed their plan, they changed their platform. They used to have pro-life Democrats in the Democrat Party. You used to have Democrats like Zell Miller. Even like Joe Manchin, who's now an independent. Kyrsten Sinema. They are actually considered moderates now because the party went so far ideologically left that they ran out even mildly pro-life Democrats. They were primary pro-life Democrats. There were certain issues that Democrats would allow for disagreement on so long as they came together on everything else, the 80-20, right? But something happened and they changed their platform and they ran them out. They began going after them. They wanted complete and total ideological and cultural hegemony. They wanted everything to be uniform. No daylight. Contrast that with what you've seen from the right. Just in the past eight years. Maybe a little longer. It's caused some problems. That aren't, you know, huge, but it's been a very kind of tricky to navigate. And it is a burgeoning coalition that the right created. where you have the old school evangelical republicans that are sitting next to uh you know maybe libertarian folks or shaved head you know they call them freaks probably back in the day uh you know like uh alternative type people who agree with them on 80 but maybe not on 20 so there's this like very interesting coalition that they've that the right has been able to create and The left used to be the valedictorians at making coalitions. And now it's like they don't even know how to anymore. And now it's the right. When you start that, that helped to normalize a lot of the things that the right wanted to do. So I asked this yesterday. I'm like, when did progressivism become uncool? Because they were, as I said in the beginning, I don't mean like cool like you think it's up. I mean, they were the standard ideology for all of art, film, music, everything. And I don't know if it was when women started wearing pink knitted vaginal hats or when Hillary Clinton tried to pretend that she was down with black America by having hot sauce in her bag. Or, as someone suggested, maybe it was when they tried to mentally force-feed kids trans ideology in the most inappropriate and uncomfortable of ways. Or maybe it was when they made everyone stay indoors for two years and wear useless masks and inject themselves with experimental non-vaccines that were actually more therapeutic because they didn't provide any immunity at all whatsoever, and they sent people to jail for trying to pay their bills. Or maybe... It's when they stopped being able to take a joke. And they chose to be constantly offended all the time. Or maybe it's when they started writing and burning things down. I don't know. I do know. I think the epitaph of cool progressivism ended there. with Kamala Harris. I think she's the epitaph of it. When they sent her on podcasts with people she didn't even know because they were trying to get her to plant her flag in the cultural sphere and she fell on her face. One of the great answers I got, a listener, Anna Zeigler said, quote, when their policy preferences shifted from focusing on intangible intellectual things like pushing welfare and taxing the rich to public displays of men dressed as women, kids watching drag, men competing against women. That's a really good point. Like Gamergate smearing masculinity, mocking traditionally American values. People got so tired of this nonstop grievance industry. Nobody likes a person who's always negative or combative or perpetually looking for offense. They don't like that. And it doesn't matter if it's political or not. So this has been a shift decades in the making. Some of the answers that I got, and there were hundreds of them, are so good. Like someone said, when they started being more for war than peace, that was one of the responses I got. When they came after the kids, when they came after sports, when they stopped talking about the issues that mattered to Americans and began focusing on the issues that only mattered to Hollywood was one answer. someone said when they left the blue collar voter behind. I thought that was very interesting, too, because remember, that was another thing that Democrats used to be known for. Right. And then I love the answers from some people who are like, well, it was never cool from my perspective. And again, I'm talking about like generally society. They it was very interesting. Very interesting responses. I wanted to play this, if we have time, really quickly. Poot Booty Juice, his audio on this. This was, sorry, Audio Soundbite 13. Listen.
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A little bit of that event you described, and it was a caricature of everything that's wrong with our ability both to cohere as a party and to reach to those who don't always agree with us. And we cannot go on like that. We cannot. I also think that we believe in the values that we care about for a reason. And this is not about abandoning those values. It's about making sure we're in touch with the first principles that animate them. What do we mean when we talk about diversity? Is it caring for people's different experiences and making sure no one's mistreated because of them, which I will always fight for? Or is it making people sit through a training that looks like something out of Portlandia, which I have also experienced? And it is how it is how Trump Republicans are made. If that comes to your workplace with the best of intentions, I will say he's repeating stuff that Carville has said.
SPEAKER 01 :
But you have to remember, because they were saying that they want their party back, like they got to take their party back. And I'm like, for what? Like to what? Like the zygote stage of insane, illiberal, anti-science Marxism? Like, what do you mean back to what? Because nobody's there. All the people, most everybody left. They became independents or they went and voted for Trump. These are these are operatives that used far left activists as pawns for the Democrat Party. They needed agitators when it came time to get out the vote. But they messed up because they were determined to keep these agitators happy. And so they placated them so they could use them in the future. So they adopted their stances. They enshrined them in the Democrat Party and they adopted them and made their issues part of their platform. So they're part of this problem. David Axelrod was part of the Valerie Jarrett orchestration of Obama-Biden. Most of the original Democrats are gone. Democrats use judgment and harassment to keep members in line. And the right makes everybody focus on the 80-20 rule. Last quick thing on this. I love this point that a listener made. They said, quote, it was never cool because it was never progressive. It has always been about regressive. It never moved society forward. It's always been about breaking society. I think that's exactly right. Because it was exactly that. I mean, progress where? Progress with what? Bigger government? More taxes? More border chaos? Everyone on prescription drugs? Like what? It was about breaking society because it was only ever a Marxist counter to the conservation of individual liberty, which is what conservatism is. And it nearly damn near did break society. But people woke up and they looked around and they voted accordingly. I don't know how the rest of the story is going to go, but I know for certain Democrats won't be the ones leading it. And our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Kel-Tec, the new Gen 3 Sub 2K, specifically from Kel-Tec, made in America, American parts, American labor. And this is the new third gen. It folds fast. Optics stay in place. You don't have to detach anything. And you can deploy it super fast, zeroed and ready. And It's available now in 10 millimeter, which is pretty awesome. Got all kinds of calibers of variety, but it's more versatile now even with the new 10 millimeter chambering. Single twist and fold motion of that rotating forend. That's how it folds quickly in half optics and all and just as quickly deploys zeroed ready to rock. Folds down to 16 1⁄2 inches for easy storage and transport. Takes Glock mags. You got a simple, reliable blowback design, so you have ease of maintenance, consistent performance, internal buffer for softer recoil, lighter 5-pound trigger pull. You have that integrated M-lock. You get the rails up top for accessories. Ideal for literally anything. Kel-Tec makes everything right here in the U.S. of A. Innovation. Performance. Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Again, it's the Gen 3 Sub 2K 10mm KELTECWeapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so apparently, here's a new study. Night owls? face a dementia risk that early birds don't. I want to arrest whoever did this report. But there's a twist, according to this stupid study. They say that the problem stems from rigid work schedules that force night owls into chronic social jet lag. I just like staying up late because fewer people bother me. And it creates constant conflict with their night... But they said that, yeah, basically, try to be an early bird. I really don't care. What, so you can live longer, more miserably? What? Is that it? Is that it? This study's trash.
SPEAKER 05 :
They didn't say that in the study, did they?
SPEAKER 01 :
Might as well. Golly. Let's see. Did you guys hear about the... We have a thing for ugly statues, apparently. So we had the big chonk, the big chonky chonk lady statue. Now we have this obscene 45-foot naked, N-E-K-K-I-D. That's correct. Naked woman that's over a major public plaza. Don't read that as pubic plaza, as I almost did. 45 feet tall, 32,000 pounds. She's like fully nude and she's in... I don't understand what this is... This is a mold. Like, anybody can basically do this. It just looks dumb. How is this supposed to be art? This is dumb. There's no detail. It's like the most banal thing that you could possibly, you know, construct. Good for San Francisco that they have it. Because it's an overrated city. So good. They can have... It is. And they can have this overrated, gross-looking statue. An ex-flight attendant was caught smuggling 100 pounds of deadly nude drugs made of human bones. Oh, okay. Well... I don't know, but now I'm interested. Her name is Charlotte Lee. She's from the UK. She was seized at the Sri Lankan airport. And she was carrying a suitcase full of what they call kush. It's a drug, a new drug, originating in West Africa. I thought that that was like a nickname for pot. I heard that from a hippie movie. Okay. But apparently it's a new drug that originates in West Africa and it just kills tons of people. It killed like a dozen people in Sierra Leone apparently this week alone. And so it has a street value of over three million. She claims it was planted without her knowledge. I took one look at her and I'm saying I don't believe you. Let's see. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed two bills against horrific animal abuse. And that's awesome. It took about five paragraphs to get to the meat of the story, but it's called Trooper's Law, and it was inspired by the dog that was left chained to a fence during a hurricane. So good on DeSantis for doing that. Saving puppies. Stick with us. I mean, I'm fine. Why isn't the press interested in this? Oh, for the same reason they weren't interested in any of the COVID stuff. Can we touch on this? The New York Times headline, I could just punch someone in the face over. I really could. I know that you guys saw this. The audacity of this piece from the New York Times. Quote, we were badly misled about the event that changed our lives. They said we were badly misled. Of course, it's about coronavirus. The woohoo. Here is an actual sentence from this New York Times piece. Quote, yet in 2020... When people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the COVID-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Kane, who treated us like kooks and cranks? The media. Yeah. The left and the media, same thing. The media. The media. And... Obviously, it has been unraveled and now the media wants to claim that they were misled. We were badly misled about the origin. When you were leading the witch hunt against all of the people who were raising concerns about this, the New York Times now needs to separate itself from this. I mean, they literally had headlines where they were besmirching good people who are asking questions about the origin. They were asking questions about cover-ups. They were asking questions about all of this. And now they want to play victim. They, anybody who actually questioned the narrative that we were given in the press and asked about any kind of zoonotic origins, they were treated like witch doctors. They were treated like just they were persona non grata. They can't be allowed into the conversation. And not even on the origin. I mean, they went after people like Dr. Robert Malone that we had on, Dr. Tess Laurie. We had our videos pulled from YouTube, censored, because we asked questions on this program. I mean, it was censorship, and we know it was censorship at the highest levels. And now they want to act as though that oh well we you know we were misled we're see we got duped too that's how they're i feel like they're they're trying to act like no we're victims like you we were so misled you know what's next like we were so misled you know um uh women can't actually be men and men can't have babies we were so misled like what's next
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you heard what they did with the vaccine. The media was even putting out, well, no one was forced to take the vax. Nobody was forced. No, they weren't.
SPEAKER 01 :
Here's this headline. Senator Tom Cotton repeats fringe theory of coronavirus origins. If you looked up fringe and coronavirus in the New York Times in their search option, I mean, there's so many headlines that pop up over that. I mean, and this was a legitimate and taking something now that we we accept as truth because the evidence supports it. Everybody had evidentiary based suspicions in the beginning that were immediately discounted in favor of the political narrative that they wanted to spend, that they wanted to spend. And for them to try to retcon this and act like, oh, we were you weren't misled. You misled people. You were the your reporters. And this goes back to what we opened the program with. You are the media. Your job is to your entire the purpose of your existence is to question government, is to question elected officials, is to question bureaucrats. That's your entire existence. If there was misleading, you misled. You weren't misled. You just swallowed it and took it at face value because it was easier for your political bottom line to do so. They didn't want to fall out of favor with the powers that be by asking questions. That's what the left does. And the left is, you know, the media is part of it. They don't ask questions anymore. Merely asking a question is a sign of betrayal. Someone is not accepting the narrative. They're not swallowing their narrative pill. They're asking a question. That means they're not on the same page. Thus, they are the enemy. That's how it's viewed. So questions aren't even allowed. There's no intellectual curiosity. Whatever they said went and you ought to accept it now or Now, because it doesn't cost any political capital for them, they can act like, oh yeah, we're one of you. We're questioning this. We were all misled. No, you misled people. We were the people that you tried to mislead. And when you couldn't mislead us, you wanted to impugn our characters and thereby taint any kind of association in the minds of anyone else that was still maybe making up their minds. I mean, they they went after the best doctors in the world, the best medical experts, the best professionals. They persecuted the media story after story about these people. Now they want to act like they're one of us. No, you don't get to do that. Badly misled. Spare me with all of this. There's there's that's what I think that that exchange was a very good exchange. And I like Levitt's response. You're the reporter. That's your job. You investigate this stuff. The bigger question is, why isn't the press interested in investigating things from the government? Remember the olden days of the old gumshoe reporter? That's gone. Nobody wants to ask those questions anymore. Everybody just wants a stupid, insipid hot take. They want a part of that attention economy. But they don't care about investigating anything. You know why? Partly because there's no rewards in it. There's no rewards in it. The only reason the New York Times is doing this now is to save their ass. That's it. They're trying to act like, oh, no, no, we're still reputationally clean. You can still trust us. You can still subscribe. But we know that they were part of the problem.
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We're early in the investigation, but some details have emerged. I'm able to confirm there are six victims ages 67 to 88. All of them have been transported to local hospitals. This attack happened at a regularly scheduled weekly peaceful event. Witnesses are reporting that the subject used a makeshift flamethrower and threw an incendiary device into the crowd. The suspect was heard to yell free Palestine during the attack. The subject has been identified as Mohammed Sabri Solomon and he's 45 years old. The FBI is processing the crime scene in the subject vehicle in interviewing key witnesses. We're assisting Boulder police and providing technical, analytic and additional forensic resources. As a result of these preliminary facts, it is clear that this is a targeted act of violence and the FBI is investigating this as an act of terrorism. Sadly, attacks like this are becoming too common across the country. This is an example of how perpetrators of violence continue to threaten communities across our nation. It's our job, the FBI, the Boulder Police, and our law enforcement and community partners to bring these criminals to justice and keep our communities safe. We're asking for the public's help as we continue to investigate this horrific act of violence.
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Well, so this is what happened over the weekend. It's what everybody woke up to. This this horrible story that came out of Boulder, Colorado. And I keep hearing that. And he I think he used this phrase even. And I've seen other politicians refer to it as like, oh, it's just an incident that happened. It's just this like it was a one off incident. And I got to tell you, it doesn't seem like it's a one-off anymore, right? An incident is what you would, that's the word you would use if you were describing, oh, it happened one time. Oh, this is very much a singular, isolated thing. And it doesn't seem that way at all, obviously, when you look at all of this. This is just a growing thing. It is a growing sentiment. Welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. Just just we're going to talk to talk about some of the political reaction in this. But this this terrorist with a Molotov cocktail. I mean, what this is like the third. incident where somebody's targeted Jewish Americans and for some reason I don't know they keep they it's well it's a it's a it is a uh uh it was an incident that happened it's so unfortunate I was like Twitchy had a really good roundup of some of the weird statements that were that these lawmakers and these these commentators were making I mean the mayor how long did it take him to even post anything yesterday. It was like hours before he posted anything. And it almost sounded like a focus grouped It said, I am saddened and outraged at the appalling attack on members of Boulder's Jewish community that happened today during the peaceful gathering on Pearl Street. He said his heart goes out. It was a tragic incident. He said, my heart goes out to the victims and their families and all who are impacted by this tragic incident. It sounds like, oh, this one-off incident. It's not an incident, though. I mean, that's the unfortunate thing about this. This has been happening more and more. And when they say incident, it just seems to downplay the frequency by which this has happened and how people are being targeted. My gosh, just what? Was it last week that you had an activist that was trying to murder American Jewish residents right in the street, right in Washington? I mean, that was just last week, wasn't it? And this is already, yeah, NBC, oh, it was multiple marchers were injured in this attack. The way that they wrote about it, oh, it's just a suspect in custody. Oh, it's just an incident. Just injured. People were injured. I mean, some things happened. I mean, it's like, what's her face? Ilhan Omar. Some things happened. This is crazy. It wasn't an incident. I mean, there was the thing that happened in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. Let me pull this up because that was six people were hospitalized. There was a five vehicle crash. And this happened on Sunday. This story. And it was they said a minivan that was going southbound just unexpectedly accelerated came and ran into a pedestrian in the crosswalk. And they said that the five victims, two different vehicles, they took some other people to the hospital there. I mean, there's been I'm just like looking back over just the past year and there's been a number of these incidents that have been taking place. And I think that it behooves us to not refer to them as just incidents. This is an ongoing terrorist attack on the United States within our borders. I mean, when you keep having it happen like this, are we going to turn into the UK where they're going to be driving cars into people constantly and going after people with machetes and the press over there just sort of sticks its head in the sand and ignores the frequency of it? Yeah, Audio Soundbite 17. This is former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. Well, listen to his sound bite here. That's all I'm going to say.
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This is the sort of thing that the FBI really can help out the local police department with providing manpower, technology and resources to do that sort of work. That's what the FBI does. We don't step in and take over and draw conclusions five minutes after the attack about what happened. We reach out to the local authorities. We provide people and we offer assistance in any way that we can. The Bureau is there to help the first responders.
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Thank you so much to both of you. One thing we know for sure, you know, certainly thinking about these victims and their families, a truly horrific thing that has happened to them as we await more on their condition.
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What? He's upset that it would be labeled as such. He's upset that it would be. I mean, what gives you. I don't know if somebody is going out there screaming, quote unquote, free Palestine while you're trying to set Jewish people on fire. I'm thinking that that might be a sign. If you needed a motive, that's maybe a suggestion of where the motive is. Boulder police didn't want to label it a terror attack either. Audio soundbite 18.
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FBI is already calling it a targeted terror attack. Would you also refer to it as a terror attack? So I've been in contact with our local FBI multiple times. We are in contact with them here. We're not calling it a terror attack at this point. Again, it's way too early to speculate motive. I know there's a lot out there in social media, but I ask people just to give us a little bit of patience while we work through a really complex scene. A lot of witnesses were here. We've taken them to another location.
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I'm curious when he says that he doesn't immediately want to guess on a motive. I mean, again, the guy went out there screaming free Palestine and was trying to set Jewish people on fire. I'm just curious. I mean, is that I'm curious where that fits in. If you need a suggestion as to motive, where do you think that comes in at? This is the state where they literally took somebody to court because he didn't want to bake a cake. This is the state that did that. Colorado. They took a dude to court because he didn't want to bake a cake. But somebody going out there screaming free Palestine while trying to set Jewish people on fire. Well, you know, hey, I mean, best we can do is say it was an incident. That's all we can do. Everything is so backwards. This is how people get radicalized. You know, this is exactly how it happens. I mean, against this stuff. Good heavens. I mean, spare a thought for the victims, all of these, you know, individuals out here that are sitting here talking about this like it's just like some one-off. It is just, it's wild. And I think the worst, though, if I had to pick maybe perhaps the worst soundbite from all of this, it's, gosh, heavens, we're going to have to play this one probably again. Audio soundbite 19. It's Jamie Raskin. I want you to listen to how he, this is his reaction to this. Listen to where he goes with it.
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Across the country, we are still in the midst of a gun violence epidemic. So we need to be acting with due concern for human life. I mean, this is why, of course, we have been fighting for a universal violent criminal background check. We are for a ban on military style assault weapons in the country. You know, our lax gun laws are a danger to everybody in America.
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They have all the gun-free laws there, all the gun-free zone laws. They have all of that in Colorado. They have all those. I mean, that state completely started implementing California-style gun control. So I don't know what he's talking about, but what the hell did that have to do with what this guy did, throwing Molotov cocktails and trying to light people on fire? What does that have to do with it? I mean, it's rhetorical. The answer is nothing, but I guarantee you there were probably some good law-abiding Colorado residents that would have loved nothing more to have been able to be armed and be able to exercise their Second Amendment when a crazy, this terrorist, this murderous, evil terrorist is running around trying to light people on fire. The gun control in that situation is two in the chest, one in the head to that guy. That's gun control. That's it. Double tap. That's gun control in respect to that context. This is wild, though. It's just wild. And for whatever reason, I don't know why, and we played that sound about McKay being upset on the issue of this the classification as a terrorist. What does the FBI lose by classifying it as a terrorist, classifying this as a terrorist attack? Because, you know, I'm trying to understand why anyone would object to that. It is. I mean, the guy's motivations were terrorism. He's using terror as a tactic. He's setting people on fire, not to mention he's in here illegally. This is another case of a guy who was overstaying his visa. Then he was given a work permit. He kept being given all of these extensions by the Biden administration. I'm waiting to see Jamie Raskin or others go and try to have a margarita with this guy. Different type of cocktail. We have a lot more on the way. We've got headlines coming up as we move towards the bottom of this first hour and the partners. Those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so first up, turmoil. Lots of worries are swirling over cuts to federal agencies as hurricane season begins. And by turmoil and panic, I mean the media is trying to get you to be in turmoil and to panic over the fact that they're only reducing redundancy and any kind of waste. It does not mean that no one's going to be able to warn you about an oncoming hurricane. Stop it. That's not going to work. It's not going to happen. I can't stand the hyperbole that goes along with this stuff. Also, this home sellers now outnumber buyers by half a million, according to new statistics via Redfin and The Hill. It's the first time that this is, well, not the first time. It's the first time in a long time. Six of the top 10 buyers markets are in Florida. And there's about 500,000 more people selling homes than there are buyers right now. Also, long-term unemployment hits a two-year high. Hiring has slowed amid economic uncertainty. Who's causing the uncertainty, I pray tell? Would it rhyme with Schmidt? I'm just saying. Does it rhyme with Schmidt? It does. Okay, yeah. So this is the 2025 U.S. job market, so we still have lagging unemployment. The FDA has approved, for some reason, Moderna's new lower dose completely. ineffective quote unquote vaccine. It's not a vaccine. It's a shot of magic juice. It doesn't actually prevent the transmission of the virus. Nobody knows why the hell they ever said that because it never did it. People would still get it. And that's why, because it didn't actually immunize you from anything. It isn't like an immunization. So kind of questioning the entire point of it. But we weren't allowed to do that back then because it was considered fascist. I know. Welcome to 2025, the United States, where words have no meanings anymore. And you can just pick whatever the hell you want and parse it together. And it makes sense because you identify it as such. Exercise, they said, is this is the dumbest. This is the stupidest survey ever. Exercise is better than drugs to stop cancer returning after treatment, according to a new trial. So if you weren't aware that exercise was good for you, this study has suggested exercise is not only good for you, but it can also be more effective than the drugs to stop cancer from returning. I'm so glad that the Guardian was there able to. Tell us that completely obvious, totally obvious headline. A couple of other things to hit as well. We're going to get into that story of the trans in California where it was a track and field meet and you had a trans athlete end up taking the top spot. We're going to have to dive into that. Also, over at Harvard, a professor was fired for being dishonest in a study about dishonesty. It's from not the bee. And it's a Harvard professor who is accused of plagiarism. Now, again, the study was about dishonesty. And this Harvard professor was Francesca Gino literally plagiarized sources from student thesis, thesis, blogs, news reports, all kinds of stuff in falsified. Data in a story about falsification makes all the sense in the world. There you go. That's Harvard. We have a lot more on the way. The latest with Boulder and more. Stick with us. Angel Studios, a new partner to the program. And I don't know if you've seen some of their some of the films that they have. They have a new record breaking animated faith based film called King of Kings. And they're for people who Hollywood has pretty much entirely ignored. Mainstream studios continue to push out content that often feels disconnected from people's values in everyday lives. Angel Studios is different. And you can become a premium Angel Studios Guild member. You can watch King of Kings. You can stream the all-fan curated shows and movies and get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. Now, the story King of Kings is actually based on a Charles Dickens book called Life of Our Lord. And it features an all-star cast that includes Kenneth Bragna, Pierce Brosnan, a bunch of other really well-known names. And it got an A-plus cinema score, a 98% audience rating. and it's a record-breaking animated faith-based film. Now, when you're a premium Guild member, you get to decide which projects are greenlit, and you help shape the future of entertainment. Visit angel.com slash Dana and join over 1 million Americans in taking back control of entertainment. Become a premium Angel Studios Guild member to watch The King of Kings and stream the all-fan curated shows and movies and get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. That's angel.com slash Dana.
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And so there's folks at Boston University who count. How many people have died because of what Doge did at USAID? And USAID was a very ill-managed organization. That's true. But according to the Boston University folks, so far 55,000 adults have died of AIDS in the four months since Trump was elected. 6,000 children are dead because of what Doge did. That's just PEPFAR, the HIV. You add them all up, that's 300,000 dead, and we're four months in. Now, you add, accumulate that over four years, the number of dead grows very high.
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This is one of the dumbest things ever. Do you realize that the numbers that they keep basing this off of, what was it, some kind of... erroneous made-up computation from some broad. I don't even remember. They don't even know where it came from. Somebody saw it and they thought, oh my gosh, and then they just all started parroting the same thing. That's from PBS. The discussion of this, who's that? That was, is it not David Brooks? Yeah, it was David Brooks. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On PBS. They know it's, you know, it's because it's, you know, there's U.S. aid cuts. It must be Elon Musk is just like Stalin. That's the argument that he's making there. They can't wait. How did people die from AIDS? Because we're not wasting millions of dollars through USAID. And you realize that we were getting the money was getting to literally Hezbollah. We were billions and billions and billions were being wasted on things that had nothing to do with this stated original purpose of that entity. But, you know, you have, I guess, I don't know why they think that they're running with this, you know, Pollywood kind of math where they're saying, oh, it's 300,000. The number keeps increasing every single time somebody tells this story. It's like a big fish story just gets bigger and bigger. The number keeps increasing all the more. But it's it's asinine. It's all about ways for an abuse. And that emotional appeal does not work. It does not work. Like, who was it? Bono was on. I think Bono was talking to Rogan and he did push back on him. Rogan did, thankfully. But Bono was another one out there repeating the same lie, which I found incredibly rich from a guy who actually ran away from having to pay his fair share in Ireland. He didn't want to pay taxes in Ireland. His charities give a pittance to the state of causes that they purport to help. And he's real chummy with the Bidens. When I went to the State of the Union a couple of years ago, he was in the next box over as a guest of the Bidens. And they were really chummy. I mean, you know, you can see when someone's invited as a guest of a politician and it's like a professional courtesy. And, you know, they know each other. They're associated. And, you know, they have, you know, a very polite, reserved greeting, etc. No, they knew each other. They were real chummy. I just think it's I don't know why a guy who can't vote here is lamenting over what taxpayers are decreeing be done with our money. Right. Hell, I think I pay more taxes in Bono at this point. And I have like maybe not even a percentage of what he's got in terms of net worth. How interesting is that? I mean, if he really wanted to, I mean, he could donate more of his own salary to their version of the Treasury in Ireland. But they fought that. They fought paying taxes. And he's worth more than all of us combined. Incredibly rich. But that's how these people are. They're so generous with everybody else's money. They claim to, I mean, South Park was right about him. They claim to believe in this stuff, but they don't actually show it with their actions. They construct these little veneers where it gives the appearance of caring about this issue without any of the work or sacrifice of either spending time or money on it. But these are fake numbers. What do they think they're going to accomplish with us? Nobody believes them. Nobody believes these people coming out with these numbers. Oh, 300,000 people. They died from AIDS. They died. I don't think that the, no. How did, how does using taxpayer dollars prevent people from getting AIDS? Anybody care to share? How does that, how does that work? Is that, what do you do? Do you wipe the AIDS away with the money? I don't know. Like, how does that work? Huh? it's, it's frustrating. I'm just trying to figure out what, I mean, are you just going to, are you going to pay it to go away? What does that, what does that do? But this, this is, it's, we're not, the argument is that if you want any kind of accountability with your federal dollars and you're murdering people, you want people to die in an actual literal real AIDS fire cane, not one that's just, you know, not a rhetorical one. It's so, this is so goofy. This is just it's so goofy. It's just they need to stop this. So the. Speaking of Doge and, you know, we were talking about the terror attack in Boulder. Think about this, because now you have people who are carving swastika symbols on electric vehicles. And then you have actual Nazis in Boulder that are trying to set Jewish people on fire. And I don't really hear a lot from those same people. Right. I mean, they were saying that we there was actually in the Kroger parking lot cane in our town. A friend of mine took a photo of a vehicle that was in a Kroger parking lot in our town in Texas. And they had a make a homemade sign that said, I purchased this before I found out that Musk was a Nazi. And then they wrote taco on it. I think it was probably somebody on the right who did it and just put that up, you know, to keep their car from getting because everybody that I know that has an electric vehicle now of and I have a lot of friends that have Teslas. Almost all of them, except for like one or two, have had their cars keyed in and around Dallas. That's insane. So and they and their argument is that that Musk is a Nazi because he wanted to save billions of dollars of taxpayer funding. Because he wanted to do what everybody pretends that they want to do and cut government spending. But he was somehow a Nazi for doing that. Meanwhile, in Boulder, you have a guy burning Jews. In Maryland, you had people shooting at Jews. I think those might be the real Nazis and not a guy who just simply makes electric vehicles and volunteered to give a glorified audit of the federal government and eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. I feel like that's that's the better line to take on this. It's just this insane. It's insane. Audio sound by 11. Jasmine Crockett. says this is what's going to happen. If Democrats get control of the House, expect this. This will be one of the many, many things that happen. Listen, I'll give somebody 11.
SPEAKER 01 :
We have tried to subpoena Elon Musk before. The Republicans did not want to do that. I don't know why you wouldn't want to have your main man come in and tell us about all the great work that he's doing, unless he absolutely isn't doing any great work. So listen, I think that unfortunately, we're going to have to wait until the Democrats are in the majority, which will hopefully be in the midterms. And then we can absolutely bring Elon Musk in and we can have him under oath and we can have him tell us about everything that he did. Because as I've been home this week to hear from my seniors that are concerned and don't have answers about how much information he had access to and what he did with that sensitive information, they are scared.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, well, I don't know. They're scared because you're lying to them. I'm not quite sure what a couple of people with read-only access covered by an NDA, why that would make anybody scared. But it sounds like Democrats are petrified of losing a tool that they, I mean, I don't know how long, years, decades, generations, that they've used to siphon money from the American taxpayer under the guise of Social Security. It's a Ponzi scheme that just is called Social Security. That's what it is. the press gets mad when you say that but it's true that's exactly how it works how how would this not how does this not work like any other scam he was evaluating it so now they're going to go for no they have no reason at all whatsoever there's no there is no suspicion of criminality there is no evidence to suggest in any way that anything that they have done is below board nothing But it's just that they don't like it. So this is giving you some there's telling you what they're going to do should, heaven forbid, they win the House back in midterm elections. This is going to be a witch hunt. You're going to have another impeachment. They're going to subpoena Musk. They're going to tie him up in all sorts of lawfare. It's going to be just like it. And then, you know, some of it also is a chilling effect. It's a chilling effect to all of these other Republicans that might be getting a little uppity about fiscal accountability. It's also designed to be a chilling effect for these people. It's exactly what it is. They don't want anyone else trying to have the government take accountability. They don't want anyone else going in and looking at the books. They don't want any of it. And I am it's just the biggest stories that they have overlooked in favor of just blatant propaganda. For instance, I do somebody 15 Bill Clinton on Biden's decline, which is a major story. But everyone's acting like they just didn't notice it until it was safe to notice. Listen.
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Speaking of aging, there's this book that came out that talks about Joe Biden and the people around him seeing that he had cognitive and physical decline. Did you ever have a moment with him where you thought maybe he was unfit to run for president? No.
SPEAKER 16 :
I thought he was a good president. The only concern I thought he had to deal with was could anybody do that job until they were 86 and we'd had several long talks i had never seen him and walked away thinking he can't do this anymore he was always on top of his brief boy he's a good liar and he never saw any he's so good at lying i didn't know anything about any of this and i haven't read the book he's not even looking at her he's just looking at the floor
SPEAKER 17 :
And she's going to take that and be like, oh, yeah, I accept that. That's a good answer. Nobody believes this. Nobody believes it at all whatsoever that they did not pay attention. They all knew and they ran with it anyway because they needed to have power. They needed to have power. They didn't have any other Democrat contenders ready. They were going to have Cuomo, remember, but the nursing home thing with COVID knocked him out of contention. Gavin Newsom's not ready yet. Cuomo was their guy. That was the guy that they were grooming at the time. That's why that was such a big deal in New York when all of that came out about what he did with nursing home patients and shoving people that had viruses, et cetera, in these nursing homes and more than just coronavirus, like flu and everything else. He was the golden boy until all that happened. And then they had to go buy some time. They had to buy some time. Who else are they going to run? Biden was only ever kind of a placeholder to begin with. He had waited his turn. He waited in line. It took his turn. He played by the party rules. He was a team player. He didn't pull a Hillary, how Hillary wanted to run instead of Barack Obama. And so she ended up running anyway against the Democrat Party. And they challenged him in the primary. This is going all the way back to 2008. No, Biden didn't do that. He waited his turn. He did what he was supposed to do and he was rewarded. James Clyburn rewarded him by saving South Carolina for him and putting him across the threshold during the caucuses and primaries. And same thing, they needed a placeholder. He's not, he was never really making decisions. It was all leftover remnants from the Obama-Biden era and even going, probably even some of the Clintonistas going so far back as that. But They all knew. And now they're pretending, wow, can you believe it? We only just now noticed this. So crazy. The media, we only just now noticed this. Do you really believe that? No, nobody does. We have more on the way. Gold Co. Precious Metals. Honestly, you need the security that precious metals provide during this. What do you call it? Economic uncertainty. I don't even know how we would refer to it. GoldCo can do that. And they're so incredibly easy to work with. You can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today. And you can also qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. That's like actual real silver that they instantly match to your account tax and penalty free. Gold and silver have stood the test of time for generations, and people turn to these as a hedge during these periods of economic instability. Hard assets offer that. It's not like paper. Gold and silver are not tied to the performance of the stock market or a government debt. It's a real tangible way to safeguard your portfolio. So get educated before you invest with their free 2025 gold and silver kit. It will break down everything that you need to know about how precious
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SPEAKER 19 :
Happy Pride Month. In my Target that used to have the Pride section, it's now all USA. Yay. It's an American summer. Except for tourism, because tourism's down, because no one wants to come here. USA, woo! And honestly, my dad served in the military, and I'd love to be really proud of this nation, but it's hard to be proud of it under Donald Trump. But hey, you know, while you're here, pick up a USA bikini. You know, why not?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, Target's really taken this anti-DEI thing to another level. I mean, they've always had pro-USA stuff. What is your damage? I cannot stand broads like this. First off, if you want pride stuff, go to Etsy or something like that. I mean, a store can choose to, you know, good grief. Everybody's so tired of it. It's like all this Chinese-made, mass-produced, rainbow-colored garbage. I mean, and it's so obviously pandering, but maybe, I don't know, that's about as rich as her consumer appetite is, you know, mass-produced Chinese-made garbage that's just coated in rainbows for a virtue signal purpose. I mean, why do people record themselves in stores like this? I don't get it either. Not every single moment of your life has to be recorded and splayed out there like this. She seems like she's real fun, Cain. Yeah, she seems like she's a bag of hoots.
SPEAKER 14 :
Life of the party.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, that one. Life of the party. She seems like a real blast. No, she isn't proud of her country because of who's in the White House. If your pride about this nation is predicated upon specifically who's in the White House, you're not proud of your nation, period. And the problem is you. Thank you. You can still... not agree with someone who's in an elected office and still love your country. And maybe that's difficult for, you know, stunted broads like this to understand, but the problem is her, not anybody else. I can't even imagine, like, well, I want to be proud of my country, but I was still proud of my country when Barack Obama was in the White House. One does not mutually exclude the other. That doesn't even make any sense. And I have to question your whole... your fidelity towards the nation anyway. I think that gets called into question. We have a lot still to come, including this issue with the trans athlete in California. The mom has hit back against the critics, the mom for enabling her son to compete as a female after having gone through puberty as a male and blowing away the competition at a track and field meet like that shocking that that you know that it would be shocking if the student did anything other than first place everything so the pushback on that and you know it's because it's pride month is it pride it started today yesterday really I will say, it does seem like there is a little bit less of rainbow madness everywhere, right? I mean, am I just not looking? I haven't been to a retail store. I just don't ever go. Am I just not looking?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think there's a little downtick of it this year.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because I don't think Google had their... Google doesn't have their... Usually they do it for the whole month.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah, look. I'm looking at Google right now. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, usually they do it. They have like a whole pride thing when you use their search engine and it's like it's the entire month. But they haven't done anything. So that's just I find that just kind of interesting. Is it because people are just tired of all the DEI everywhere, all the things? Maybe. So we have that and a lot more. Blasphemy against Islam is now a crime in the UK. That too as well. Stick with us more in store.
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Second place, Lauren Matthews. Our 2025 winner, in a time of 55.70 from East Valley of Spokane, Veronica Garcia.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, boo him because he took a podium from a woman. He took a podium from a woman, a 17-year-old who went through puberty as a male competing against females. The 400-meter dash, by the way, oh my gosh, that is one where the differences in anatomy and physiology are on absolute clear display. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. You can listen across the country. Channel 347 is the stream. The chat's at Rumble. This 17-year-old, this was in California, East Valley High School. Shame on the school, by the way, for allowing someone to compete and rob a female of her rightful first place on that podium. And this... Dude, who goes by the name of Veronica Garcia, won the class to a 400 meter dash by a good amount. And the crowd, as you heard, was not super pleased. And Garcia said and Garcia was just just mean and petty and bitter. I mean, even even after. He told his critics that they needed to get a life and that said that it's a damn shame they don't have anything else better to do. I think it's a damn shame that Veronica Garcia can't actually be a good enough athlete as a man. So he has to treat the women's the women's sports as his JV league. I think it's a damn shame that Veronica Garcia isn't a talented athlete, because if he was, he would be able to compete with other men instead of trying to diminish women's sports. That's the real damn shame in all of this. and speaking of getting a life why don't you live the life you were given instead of cosplaying as something that you're not good heavens but i mean he won it by a pretty significant amount and it was 400 meters the crowd was not happy obviously and uh some of the people uh when he got called up to take that first place spot on the podium, they were, they were booing that Ascension and rightfully so. Why, why should they not? And so some of the females were saying that they should, you know, this, the second place winner should have won state because she's the best woman. She should have won state. It's been taken away from her. And there, that is a correct. That's a, that's right. That's accurate to say that. The jumpers, there were two female high jumpers who also in Oregon refused to stand alongside of a transgender rival on the podium at their high school state track and field championships. And they all wore T-shirts that said, keep women's sports female. There was an individual who had competed, a boy competing as a girl, and none of the women, they turned their backs onto the crowd, and then they were ushered away from the ceremony. They would not take their spots on the podium. I mean, that's what you're going to have to do, sadly. That's what's going to have to happen. Washington students can participate depending on how they... identify as gender that particular day so technically you could you know you could change it however however you feel however the mood suits you and so this uh i just feel like you know this guy telling everyone to get a life you're taking theirs you're you're taking theirs And this is the 400 meters. That's a really hard race. That's a 400 is a really hard race. Have you ever ran the 400 cane? If you asked me to pick the thing that I think would be most hellacious, it's that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I would imagine.
SPEAKER 17 :
An all-track and field.
SPEAKER 14 :
I have not, though.
SPEAKER 17 :
Jeez. Could not do it. 400 meters is nuts. But there were two transgender teenagers in California and Washington that... this weekend took the number one spots of actual female competitors. And the parents were very, I mean, obviously the parents were upset about this. And I think the, and then the mother of the trans athlete, the guy who's trying to be a, trying to compete as a woman was very upset about, And their other moms were speaking out as well. The Independent Women's Forum, they work with one of the mothers who said that I could cry right now on her daughter losing out the state spot to the guy. The others said that it was discriminatory. Veronica Garcia's mother. I mean, obviously the parents, there's nothing wrong with their child cheating this way. It's cheating. If you were a female and you had an artificial level of hormones in your system the way he has in his system naturally, you would be disqualified from competing. They would accuse you of doping. He has an unbelievably ridiculous, unfair biological and physiological advantage over these other females. He's taller. He has greater muscle mass, greater bone density. He is built... very different. Even though he's a human, men and women are different. I just find it weird that you have to keep driving this point home, especially at schools of all places. At schools, where they're supposed to teach this stuff. And they're supposed to teach science. And they're supposed to acknowledge fact over fiction. So, I mean, I feel bad for these. I can't even imagine. I feel bad for these students. I ran track and field. I can't imagine if I had to compete against a man. I was like a miler and a two miler, and I did four by eight relay. I can't imagine having to compete against a dude. Now, I could run with the JV dudes, and I was a varsity athlete. I could run with JV and train with JV, and I could keep up with them and beat some of them. But varsity, no. No, couldn't do a varsity. No female could. That's just not the way it is. And there's a reason. I mean, there's a real scientific reason for this. This is going to become more and more prevalent. And I worry because where were all of the... Well, I guess now second and third wave feminists. I don't know where all of these women that made a cottage industries out of lecturing women about their rights and threats to their existence. But yet they're quiet over this. All these bitches out there that scream about your rights, your body, your choice are silent about this. They say nothing about it. They're a bunch of kept women, kept women by the progressive patriarchy. That's exactly what they are. They're not a peep from any of them about this stuff. I mean, if you're a parent, what are you able to do? I mean, think about it for a moment. It's more than just a podium for some of these kids. It's scholarships for these kids. It's recognition for these kids, publicity for what they do. There are numbers of them that compete, and they hope for college scholarships as a result of their athleticism. And when you are constantly demoted in women's sports because a man who can't cut it as a male athlete with men in men's sports decides to treat your women's sports as a JV league. Well, what does that I mean, how are you being fairly evaluated and fairly measured if you're being considered for all of these things? How much does that impact negatively women's chances of college scholarships and recognition? For their athleticism. When you have men taking their positions on podiums and elsewhere. You know, if this were if this was reversed, it would be. Well, I mean, women can't women can't compete. And men's teams. That's the difference. You can't have a player, like from the WNBA, say that she wants to be a man and then identify as a man and go and play in the NBA. It's not going to happen. She's going to get her backside beaten to a hole in the ground. It's not going to happen. It doesn't happen. Because women can't compete no matter how much hormones you take or whatever you do. You're not going to be able to fake the science of anatomy and physiology and chromosomes. You're not going to be able to fake that. There's no way that women could do that. But it's allowed for men to do it. I'm so glad I don't have daughters. I'm so glad I don't have daughters in school. My gosh. There's no way. And as a parent, to allow your child to do this, you're part of the problem also. To allow your child to compete, if you have a son and he's competing in women's sports, you are part of the machine that's disenfranchising females. You are the predator. You are preying upon women and you are eliminating their sports. Women didn't take over men's sports. We created our own. Women didn't take over Major League Baseball. We didn't take over any of that. We created our own sports teams, our own leagues. We did all of that. Our own. Even basketball. Our own. If this is something trans want to do, then create your own league. But you're not going to hijack the women's league. Because you're not a real female. It's not offensive to state the obvious. It's offensive to pretend otherwise. Yeah, this was state, man. I can't even imagine. Can't even imagine it's state. And then this dude's like, well, I hope they get a life. Blah, blah, blah. It shows who they are as people. Way to be a sore. Now, you're not even a winner. You're a sore cheater. What a sore cheater. I just, I feel bad for these kids. I feel bad for these students today. Some of the other things that we have on deck, too. This, all this latest with this attack that was in Boulder and illegal immigration. I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that this guy was in the country illegally, overstayed his visa allowance, and the Biden administration gave him a work permit. Just gave him a work permit. He came in on a non-immigrant visa and he was supposed to be done in February of 23, but he overstayed and never left. And then he filed some sort of claim, a potential asylum claim. And then Biden, the Biden administration gave him a work permit that expired March 28th of this year. I'm waiting for them to call him Colorado man, Colorado man. I mean, they're already having issues with identifying him as a terrorist, a terrorist suspect. We have more on this here coming up as we roll towards headlines. It's the folks over at Burna Gun, BYRNA. It's always good to have diverse options, to have some diversity where it concerns your weapon choices. And I mean, you have different calibers. You've got, you know, rifles and you've got pistols and you carry blades. And, you know, I think you can have brass knuckles now in Texas. I'm just saying, you know, you got all kinds of stuff, right? So why not have something like a Burna gun also? I think this is particularly helpful if you're one of those college kids that's not 21 years old and you can't carry a handgun and you want to be able to protect yourself, whether you're walking to your car somewhere or whether you're you know, in your, you know, condo or dorm or whatever, the Burna gun allows you to do that. There's, I think for the, for this purpose, the two models I would suggest are the Burna SD. That's their top selling one. They also have the new CL, which is their compact launcher. It's smaller, almost 40% smaller and more compact than the Burna SD. Everything made in the USA. And it shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. Stun guns, all that. They've got like maybe one or two rounds. This has a heck of a lot more. You got up to what I think like five, six rounds in this. And it's an effective deterrent that doesn't care about background checks. It does not care about there's no waiting periods. It doesn't care about gun free zone signs. All of that stuff is completely safe. and applicable to the Berna gun. So you have legal flexibility and the ability to defend yourself. So it's always good to diversify. You can see what all they have at Berna.com slash Dana. Check out the new Berna CL. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana. Berna.
SPEAKER 14 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So the real number of steps you need to do to lose weight. Are you serious? You have to have a magic number of steps? I would think that there's a lot more that goes into it than that. I don't really, they said that there's a magic. Of course, everybody's different. Of course it is. I just get up and walk around. That's it. I mean, do you really need like, someone's like, well, I don't know, 7,000 steps maybe. I don't count steps. I get mad when my watch is like, you did it. You stood. It's like, shut up. That annoys me. I was like, stop interrupting me and telling me obvious things. PBS is suing the Trump administration over funding cuts. Are they using their donors' money to sue over funding cuts, or are they using taxpayer money to sue taxpayers for not giving them more taxpayer dollars? Great question. I would like to know, inquiring minds and all. But Axios says that they filed suit because they're having a legal tantrum now over getting taxpayer dollars. I still don't think we need to fund PBS. We don't. We absolutely don't. They said that the president doesn't have the authority to serve as the arbiter of their programming. You and I fund it. I am your, I am head broad. I am the H-B-I-C, okay? H-B-I-C with my tax dollars. So yeah, I'm going to bust up and I'm going to knock everything off of your VP's desk, your president's desk, and I'm going to put my feet up on it because that desk is my desk. You see the plaque that all of a sudden appeared when I walked in the room? It says H-B-I-C's desk. I'm the taxpayer. That's my desk. I get to do with it what I want. You get my money. I will. I absolutely get to own you. That's how that works. And I own what my money purchases, whether it's of my free will or not. So there you go. But they're saying that it violates their First Amendment rights and you don't have First Amendment rights. Because remember, I thought the left said that corporations weren't people. Oh, what? I hate it when their logic just ties them all up like that. It's so bad. Let's see there. Now we have one facility that lost a whole bunch of chickens. Is that 95% of Arizona chickens? Let's see. Well, this one company called Hickman's of their chickens to bird flu. They say it's going to take two years to rebuild. Hickman's Family Farms, the largest egg company in the Southwest. They said 95% of their birds were lost to an outbreak of bird flu. And they declared an animal disease emergency. This really, honestly, this has a lot to do with the egg stuff also. Although I know whether they're saying egg prices are going down, I think it would go down faster if we didn't have the very interestingly timed bird flu. I'm not saying tinfoil or anything, but if it walks like a chicken and lays eggs like a chicken, it's probably Joe Biden in a costume, forgetting that he's a human. It's true. Let's see this Port Authority police rescue a toddler from a luggage system. How does this happen? This little kid got in there as a two year old boy who got into the checked baggage conveyor belt system at Newark and they prevented what could have been a very dangerous situation or 630 p.m. Somehow the two-year-old managed to get onto the conveyor belt next to the counter. They said it happened in a blink of an eye. And the conveyor goes to a chute into the terminal's luggage screening system, which is exactly where the toddler plunged. There's some Port Authority officers who happen to be within earshot, and they sprang into action. They were able to move into the system, they said, immediately. One of them was able to see the kid as he was approaching the x-ray units. So thankfully, they got him and pulled him to safety. I mean, you know, just keep an eye on those kids. I'm just saying. But two-year-olds move fast. You think they don't? When they don't want to do anything, they're just like a glacial pace. But when they want to do something, they're on a conveyor belt like that. 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Called out on this because I called Donald Trump a wannabe dictator. It's because he is. It's because he is. Oh. The governor's being mean and the governor's speaking out on that. Well, maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner. Maybe it's time for us to be a little more fierce. Because... We have to ferociously push back on this. And again, I'll speak to my teacher colleagues in here. The thing that bothers a teacher more than anything is to watch a bully, to watch this bully and to stop it. And when it's a child, you talk to them and you tell them why bullying is wrong. But when it's adult like Donald Trump, you bully the out of him back. You push back. You make sure they know it's not there.
SPEAKER 17 :
So I'm curious, like, how do you get more... How do you get meaner after you firebomb stuff and you burn down car dealerships? What's meaner than that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Murder? Oh, they do that too.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Yeah. More murder? Welcome back. It's Tim Walls. who, remember, his wife likes the smelling of, she likes the smell of burning tires and destruction and arson and all that, all the nine yards. She loves all that. Who could ever forget that sound bite? Dana Lash with you, bottom of this second hour. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how do they get meaner? I mean, we've already had, I mean, people are damaging private property. They're keying cars. They're running people off the road if they're driving Teslas. They are, I mean, how do you get meaner than or take it one step higher if you're firebombing a car dealership? I mean, I got that's kind of their whole problem, though, isn't it? I mean, maybe before you get meaner about things, why don't you get like something, maybe a platform, maybe some policy proposals? That's a good idea. You know, before you just decide to run out and just start wild and for wild sake, like, you know, maybe maybe come up with some policies or something beforehand. I still don't think that they've articulated anything other than Trump. I think that's it. They haven't. actually been able to foment any kind of clear articulate financial policy they haven't been able to they haven't been able to actually propose anything so i'm just curious where do they think this is going now how do you go how do you i don't want them to get me to people are going to die they're going to start killing people more people i mean So maybe they need to think about their rhetoric, because isn't that what you always hear from the left? Your rhetoric. Gosh, after Parkland, that's all we heard from people was your rhetoric, your rhetoric. Oh my gosh, you have to watch your rhetoric. Can you believe it? Someone's going to be, oh my goodness, someone's going to be inspired by. But if it's Democrats, it's completely overlooked. Entirely overlooked. So a few other things to touch on. The Supreme Court turned down an assault weapons ban challenge. And I thought this was kind of interesting because, you know, it's not like, you know, it's our constitutional rights or anything like that. The Supreme Court declined to hear a challenge to This, well, challenge to assault weapons. This comes by way, I think it's SCOTUSblog and Fox DC. They rejected a case opposing the measure. It has to do with Snoke v. Brown in the state of Maryland. And this was enacted after the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre that took place in Connecticut in 2012. And three of the Supreme Court justices, the three conservative justices, publicly stated that they would have taken up a challenge to a state assault weapons ban. A fourth expressed doubt about the constitutionality of such laws. And that suggests that perhaps the court may revisit this issue in the future. Apparently, they also denied certain an ocean state tactical versus Rhode Island. And the whole issue of the assault weapons, you know, it's a completely fabricated phrase that's used to describe pretty much any semi-automatic rifle, period, regardless of whether or not it accepts a detachable magazine. They just use it to describe everything. And I... And they actually don't even get into the differences. Like, why is everything usually typically AR platform? Why are those considered the ones that are assault weapons? And something like, your deer rifle isn't. I don't want to give them ideas, but I'm just highlighting the inconsistency of their reasoning. So there's a lot of interesting thought here. To me, it signals that maybe this is something that they might... come back to. Now, Justice Thomas, he did not like the decision to sort of to deny cert to this challenge on the so-called Maryland assault weapons ban. And he made sure when he was Justice Kavanaugh, when he was making a statement about it, he made sure to note that he didn't really it doesn't necessarily mean that the court believes that the Fourth Circuit, when they were upholding the ban, got it right, but that it means that there's lawful gun owners that are, you know, there might be harmed by holding off on this. Clarence Thomas, he recognized it with his dissent. He said, quote, the question is of critical importance to tens of millions of law-abiding AR-15 owners throughout the country. And the court has avoided deciding it for a full decade. Thomas also suggested that waiting another term doesn't make any sense. And that, quote, the lower courts in the jurisdictions that ban AR-15s appear bent on distorting this court's Second Amendment precedents. And he was pretty blistering. He laid out all of the errors that they made in the Fourth Circuit in this ban and whether or not the appellate court actually had properly placed the burden of proof. As it pertains to the law on the plaintiffs when it was up when Maryland has to make its case, Maryland has to prove that in terms of traditional firearm ownership, this ban satisfies that. And they didn't do it. So I don't know. Thomas was displeased. And. But I don't get the sense that they're not going to revisit it. At least that's the hope. So we have this we have this issue as well with the Supreme Court. We'll talk. I'll have something up about that over a chapter and verse. And then, of course, you know, we had the Cory Booker thing came. Was he doing a Nazi salute?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, if you believe Elon Musk did a Nazi salute, then you should believe that he did one.
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I mean, it is interesting. The way that... The progressive press is writing it. It's very interesting. But they everybody went after Musk for saying when he was waving to someone for saying that what that what he was giving a Nazi salute. And now everyone's pointing out that Booker's wave has fueled debate after a similar gesture from Musk grew widespread media attention. I don't know. It seems like that looks a little Nazi. It's exactly like what I did not see that coming. I mean, I think he was waving, but I don't want to play that game. I want to play their game. Oh, he was totally, he was like, he, I can't distinguish the difference. I can't tell the difference between him and the dude. He was trying to light Jews on fire out there in Boulder, Kane. I mean, going by the Dems' rules.
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Now, cut 14 is a little look back as to how they treated Elon Musk when he did the exact same thing Cory Booker did. If you want to hear how they handled it then.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, let's listen, because I'm sure that they gave him the benefit of the doubt too, right? Let's hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead.
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And I just want to say thank you for making it happen. Thank you.
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So it looks like he like took his heart after this moment when viral congressman, the Anti-Defamation League, released a statement. We can show this saying in part, it seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute. Of course, if you go on social media, there are lots of other people with lots of other opinions and say this looks very much like a Nazi salute.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hmm. Hmm. Does it, though? So Cory Booker's then is a Nazi salute. I mean, those are the rules. That's what I'm told.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, looks very much like a Nazi salute.
SPEAKER 17 :
Looks pretty Hitler-y. Looked a little Hitler-ific right there. Just those are the rules. See, this is when you're going to have people on the right. I have no problem with people holding the left up by their own standards. So I think it's perfectly applicable. It's completely fine. So where is the left? They haven't really written about it. Except to say that MAGA is mad. MAGA's mad. MAGA slams Cory Booker. Or maybe people are just mad at the media. MAGA melts down over Cory Booker's Nazi salute. That's an actual headline from the Daily Beast. Oh my gosh. Someone goes, a tale of two Nazi salutes. Elon Musk versus Cory Booker. Oh my gosh. These headlines are so stupid. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I mean, why is Elon Musk's considered that, but Cory Booker's isn't? I don't know. But that's the media.
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It's D different.
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It's D different. I don't know. I'm just going to say every time they raise their hands, it's a Nazi salute. I don't know. I mean, might as well at this point. It's all these people have. What is Cory Booker even doing? I don't understand the events that he goes to and the little speeches that he gives. I don't get it. So coming up, apparently a lot of corporations have abandoned the Pride Month virtue signaling. Because it's always that time of the month where... Or that time of the year. Month for them, yeah. It's always that time of the year where you go in the store and it's just everything is rainbow everything. And I don't get it. Like Sesame Street had a rainbow arm of puppets holding hands. And I'm thinking, why does it... I mean, it's... Basically, how you have sex. Why are we noting this for a kid's show, of all things? But apparently, there are not... I guess the Yankees did it. The Devil Church did it. But apparently, a lot of Target and some of these others, they're not really... They're not... covering everything with rainbows. I don't think I'm gonna be seeing rainbow mouthwash. That was an actual thing, the pride stuff on a mouthwash. I legit saw that in a store and I thought, why do you have to have your mouthwash affirm? this like every does every product you use this is my pride toothpick this is my pride dish towel this is my pride cream my pride eggs my pride butter my proud milk like it all has to be pride like I'm gonna live eat dream sleep and fly through life with pride like what in the world like what why does every single thing made have to constantly affirm something that you choose to do behind closed doors And you claim that you want privacy, but you're willing to advertise what you do behind closed doors, which is kind of a betrayal of your privacy and ironic that you're doing it. But why does there constantly have to be this performance? Just live your life. Why does there constantly have to be a performance that goes along with it? But all that stuff, you know, would all sit on the shelves and the clearance section after. I've noticed that a lot. I've noticed that a lot, too. All of that stuff piles in. It's just nobody buys it. Nobody's going to get rainbow stuff. Yeah, it's like you're just... So we've got that coming up. We've got Florida Man on the way as well as we move. At Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country, they want to save you money while also providing you a great service and making sure that your money doesn't work against you. And that's incredibly important. You've got to be really mindful with how you spend your money anymore. This is nationwide coverage you can trust. So you're getting... exceptional nationwide coverage operating on all three major networks. You're connected wherever you go. And you can also get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Their 100% U.S.-based customer service team will switch you up. You can keep your number, keep your phone, or you can upgrade entirely and get all new things. I mean, it's totally up to you. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service with promo code Dana. Switch today and defend freedom with every call and text you make. patriotmobile.com slash Dana 972-PATRIOT.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
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It's time for Florida Man. Sometimes I see these Florida Man headlines and I'm like, no, I don't. This two Florida men dumpster dive for a giant shark that was thrown out by a defunct Joe's Crab Shack. It wasn't like a real edible shark. It was just like a giant plastic shark. And apparently it was closing down Joe's Crab Shack. And then in Fort Myers, Florida, these two dudes apparently went and got the giant shark out of the dumpster. They were very happily walking away from the restaurant with a giant shark. Where would you put that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, what the heck dumpster is going to hold that?
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, but more importantly, how would you integrate that into your home decor?
SPEAKER 14 :
The man cave.
SPEAKER 17 :
The giant shark. For what? Is it like a pod you could sleep in? Would you mount it on your wall somewhere? That would be cool.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a giant shark. What do you mean for what?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, like, what do you use it for?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a giant shark.
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But yeah, but like form follows function and all that.
SPEAKER 14 :
So look at function.
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I mean, I'm just saying you could use it for something.
SPEAKER 14 :
You could. To look at and tell stories.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow, what a nice shark you have there. Yes, it's a great conversation piece.
SPEAKER 14 :
It'll fill up your whole living room. Guess where it came from?
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The dumpster at Joe's Crab Shack. Woo! I guess it was fair game. I don't know. Could you put it above your fireplace? Like you would, you know? It's a big fireplace. Yeah, like treat it like a trophy. I don't know. I'm just saying. Yeah. The I've got to this one's cracking me up. So a man is suing Walt Disney World over Florida water slides, quote, exhilarating speeds. The man was hurt on a high-speed water slide at the Blizzard Beach water park. I don't do water parks. I'm just not into it. Because you're in people's suit. And it's gross. You're in people's suit. And you're just seasoning yourself with sunblock. And then you're getting into people's suit. The guy's name is Eugene Strickland. He visited the water park. And he tried the downhill double-dipper slide. He weighed... Oh, well, here might be one issue, one problem that we have, Cain. The slide has a weight limit of 300 pounds, and Strickland clocks in at 334 pounds. Yeah, there it is. 34 poundages more than the actual weight limit of the slide. So he said he got on the ride and became airborne. I mean, that must be exhilarating because he's 334 pounds and that thing yeeted him into the atmosphere. He said that the design and the exhilarating speeds he got, he forcefully landed on the hard plastic surface of the slide and he has severe injuries. And he said he's accusing Walt Disney World of negligence. Or you were 35 pounds over the weight limit. You were already 330, you were 334 pounds. The limit on that is 300. It's not, I can't believe I'm defending them, but it's not their problem. It's your fat ass's fault. Eat a salad. Gosh, I'm done with this. Like you knew you'd suck. That's like me exceeding the weight limit or height or something of a ride. It's for your own safety. But I gotta say, I am super impressed that it was enough to send all 334 pounds of his fat backside into the air. I am incredibly impressed at that. Would you try that water slide?
SPEAKER 14 :
I could try it, but I'm not gonna.
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Man. Don't want this headline because that is bad and this is also bad. Um... I mean, oh, some of these are, what the hell happened? I told you about the duck that terrorized the whole neighborhood. An update on that, that duck was relocated. It's found a new home to terrorize. Stick with us, third hour on the way. All Family Pharmacy, great website. And look, I'm telling you, you ought to be in charge of your own health. These are yours, not the government's, not Big Pharma's, not bureaucrats. And All Family Pharmacy, they are empowering Americans. with real access to medications that they need without waiting for you to beg the government for permission. You can visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana20 for 20% off of your entire order. Now, they have your everyday medications. They have emergency kits, antibiotics, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, everything that you need to be prepared and in control. I've used them to help with strep throat. I mean, literally two to four days, super fast shipping overnight if you need it in a pinch. I love this site. I cannot recommend it enough. I am a lifelong customer, will always be, so they can never go anywhere or I'll find them. But no, allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana 20 or allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and then use code Dana 20 for 20% off with promo code Dana 20. Don't wait for permission to protect yourself and your family. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana today.
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well my view of what happened is outrageous my first concern was for the safety of my staff member I didn't say anything I decided to speak out after the DHS released their misleading and frankly lying story about what happened DHS was upset that some of my staff members were watching them grab immigrants emerging from an immigration court in the same building a floor below. And they were upset that my staff invited some of the observers up to my office. They then came up to the office and demanded entrance. One of my staff members said, you can't come in here, you need a warrant. They said, no, we don't need a warrant, which is incorrect. And they barged in.
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But I thought you guys like Back to Blue and all that stuff. It was DHS that were saying that they were harboring rioters. And that was on Wednesday. That's Jerry Nadler, who's, of course, he's speaking against DHS for it. But he was upset because one of his aides was handcuffed. He was, according to Politico. And he they said that one agent was aggressively restraining and not one one of the staffers, et cetera. But they apparently they I mean, the accusations that they were concerned about the they said it was they had earlier incidents and they wanted to make sure everybody was cool. And I mean, they were harboring people who were writing. I was told, Kane, that it's an insurrection. Yeah. One guy was one woman was briefly detained. And also, I don't think that people were very cooperative and wanted to answer any kind of questions. He says he's traumatized. He's very traumatized. I mean, the guy like literally was battering federal officers. That's what they're not exactly being honest about here. I mean, the guy was, I mean, he was battering federal officers. There's, you know, there's all kinds of video and photographic evidence, etc. So not quite sure why they think that they're above the law, but they do every single time. Now, I wanted to also share this with you. This is, where's this at? Where's this at? Where's this at? Oh, gosh, this is so bad. So the media, because we were talking about the story of Boulder, right? And how... I just, you know, just think about this for a minute. Trump was accused of causing J6 because of his rhetoric at his speech, correct? Okay, so you had... Over the weekend, well, last week, all of the far-left media making up this story that Israel was running rampant and just machine-gunning down Gazans. And this was all reported by the Gazan whatever ministry, which is run by Hamas. And then here you have the next day, a guy who is an illegal alien Muslim begins setting Jewish people on fire. So I'm wondering if people are going to make the connection between that rhetoric and action in the same manner that they tried to with the J6 stuff. Because they said it was his rhetoric that caused it, and that's one of the reasons why they impeached him, even though there was no crime, but whatever. I'm just curious as to whether or not this incident, because that's what they call it, instead of a terror attack, if this is going to get that, if they're going to connect the dots here any better. But, Now, think of that, because this is how this is Ken Delanian, who is over at NBC. He wrote, I'm not even kidding you, quote, worth noting that flamethrowers are legal and commercially available for sale. Elon Musk's company even sold some several years ago. So, yeah, that's NBC. Yeah, for real. NBC. NBC literally wrote that guy from NBC wrote that. So a guy who is a terrorist. A Muslim terrorist that hates Jewish people who doused peaceful protesters with gasoline and. and set them on fire it's elon musk's fault because elon musk sold a flamethrower to that guy no because he used molotov cocktails and you know he made it himself what does i mean so a flamethrower wasn't involved at all no that flamethrower was not involved at all so what does this have to do with anything I guess that they just wanted to try to name Elon Musk as being part of this somehow. I just wow. Why did they not? I mean, it was a Molotov cocktail, which is not the same thing as a flamethrower. So wait, is there a context in which it would be acceptable to use a flamethrower on a person? Or is it invalidated based upon whether or not Elon Musk made it and sold it? I'm just curious. I mean, that has nothing to do with the fact that a guy tried to burn two Jewish protesters alive. That has nothing, you know, but Elon Musk once sold flamethrowers. And a guy used Molotov cocktails to burn them. But you know what? Elon Musk sold flamethrowers. One day, I hate our media. These rat bastards. Every, however much you loathe them, it is not enough. This is, I mean, you know that attempted murder is illegal. You know that you cannot put fire on someone, right? It's illegal. And it doesn't matter if you use a Molotov cocktail or a flamethrower, which this guy did not use. It doesn't matter. It's illegal. You can't put fire on people. It's kind of bad. It's kind of a crime. I can't believe we have to have these conversations. But still. The same media that said, oh my gosh, J6 and his rhetoric. He inspired all of it. Now this guy. I mean, all of the media headlines that were pushed and then this guy reacts and he was going on and on about he was screaming free Palestine and all this stuff. Note in the video that Juan's showing you on Channel 347 or on the stream. What was it? The pride flag with the inverted trans whatever in it in the background. I'm just curious. Why is his shirt off? It's hot to throw fire around. Do you think that's why? He literally doused people in gas and set them on fire. So I'm just curious as to why his shirt was off. It's gross. But, you know, people were helping the victims, the people that were targeted there. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you had the press repeating Hamas's talking points and saying that Israelis were just going and running and gunning innocent Gazan people, which literally never happened. But OK.
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I think the Cory Booker salute was a little dog whistle to this guy.
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Oh, you think?
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Yeah. I mean, it's their rule. It's their rule. Oh, that's right. Them's the rules.
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Them's the rules. Yeah, them's the rules. That's correct. It is their context. It's their understanding. So this, I wanted to touch on, speaking of Sharia or fanaticism, in Britain, this is kind of wild, you can't, what they consider blaspheme Islam over there in Britain. Blasphemy, it's a crime in the UK, specifically against Islam. It's kind of weird, right? I mean, were we going pre-Enlightenment now? Is that where we're at? Making blasphemy great again? The story, I was looking at this. There was a guy who, outside of a Turkish consulate in London, burned a Koran. And it was a lawful act, but it was considered provocative. Another guy responded to him slashing at him with a knife. The guy who did the stunt and burned the Quran, he's in police custody. The guy who ran at him with a knife is not. Wait a minute, how did that guy get a knife? I thought you had to deposit them in your free knife box, right? You had to have that. Yeah, you can't blaspheme. It's a weird two-tier system of justice in the UK right now. You have no speech. You have no anything over there. It's considered it's it's it's legally actionable. So you can't offend anyone who is Islamic. You can't like if you know, like people who stand on the street corners and preach gospel, you can't do that because that's can't do that there. Can't do that there. Christians are prosecuted for objecting. But meanwhile, just crazy. The world is changing. I was watching, where was it? There was a protest that erupted. It was in France in the streets after a football, soccer match. And there was a car that drove into a bunch of people. and people just acting insane. And it wasn't just like hooliganism. It was, I think, people that were using all of that as a way to go out and carry out targeted attacks that would be a lot harder to classify as being Islamic fanaticism driven under the veneer of, oh, well, it's people out protesting after soccer. That happened in France all this weekend. So I don't know. But this I don't what gets me is that. So this guy would be in trouble for the Koran. But if you're in gosh, we're in Britain where they had the huge problem for like 10 years with grooming gangs. And there were law enforcement that looked the other way because it would be considered bigoted. Or it would be viewed as racial if they started targeting the individuals that were leading the grooming gangs. And that went on for over a decade. All the way to the top. Lawmakers knew of it and they didn't do anything. Yet those people... I mean, they were literally trafficking young children, young females. That's apparently OK. But heaven forbid, blaspheming or saying something that you disagree with someone's religious ideology. Heaven forbid. Where's the UK going? We have more in stores. We roll towards the bottom of this hour. We have headlines on the way. And then Stephen Yates will join us as we move. Summer is all about making great memories, backyard barbecues, road trips, lake days, even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book, spending time with friends and family, catching sunset views. But if you're living with pain, those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So first up, the 80s arcade might be back right now for a very short period of time. This is kind of a neat story. So they decided to rebuild this thing. If I can get this stupid thing to open. They decided to rebuild this thing to help students at Edison Academy relax. I mean, that would work for me, honestly. It's Edison Academy in Alexandria, Virginia. And their kids in the cyber and electrical classes, their teacher said that they can relax before they do their work. So they had this year-long project where they build an arcade where they had a place for students to come and relax. And they're allowed to visit it with the class for 30 minutes at a time. They have old school Atari games. They've got Minecraft servers, Switch consoles. They have everything. That sounds actually really cool. It sounds incredibly cool. So, also, British Airways A380 crew. The crew was arrested, apparently. The whole crew? So, this was from San... It's a crew. It's from San Francisco to London, this flight. The... crew escorted to the store. I'm reading the story. Why is everything buried? A cabin member was arrested after colleagues discovered him dancing naked in the business class bathroom. Wait, how is the business class bathroom even big enough to do that in? Those are like tiny little sardines. It occurred on a flight from San Francisco to London. There was an investigation into suspected drug use, etc., etc. They said the steward disappeared from his duties during meal service. It was a full flight, 470 passengers. And they... I would not want that guy serving food, if I'm being honest. Like, if he's... doing all that stuff and doing drugs, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know that I'd want him serving food. But anyway, they found him and they ended up having to, they had to turn him in. In Japan, a man was arrested for trying to steal women's underwear from a laundromat. And then when authorities, I have to restart this, when authorities responded, apparently he had like 450 other stolen items in his house. He sounds kind of like a freak. Gotta say. But he would take them from the... How would you let... You'd take them from the laundromat. That's so gross. And they found all of this other stuff when they went to go and arrest him. Gross. Let's see. Millions of honeybees escaped after a semi-truck overturned in Whatcom County. This is sad because honeybees... I keep reading all of these stories about how honeybees are essentially under siege. So... They said that the 250 million bees did not escape. Just 14 million.
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Hope they find good homes.
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Yeah, closer to 14 million, according to the beekeepers doing the recovery. That's sad. It's sad, and I'm worried about them. They said that it accidentally freed millions of them when one of the hives came off the truck a little bit after night, right during rush hour on Friday. That's great. So great. They said that they can't really... They had to grab the beehives. The beehives that were being shipped after the incident were collapsing and falling apart. So they had to rebuild them, stack them, put frames in them, everything. So hopefully they're able to... corral everything. A woman destroys a car over a romantic partner, according to Law and Crime. A Louisiana woman used sugar and chocolate syrup to wreck a vehicle in what they believed to be a feud involving a shared romantic partner. Felony property damages slashed off four tires of the vehicle, broke the side mirrors, shattered the windshield, had syrup everywhere, dumped sugar in the gas tank. That's bad. And apparently it was all caught on camera as well. And she could face prison time and a $1,000 fine or more because of the value of the car and the damages, all of that stuff with it. So very interesting. Very interesting indeed. And I think I got one more. We got the Walt Disney one. We've got, oh, there was a moose attack in Edmonton. A senior survived a moose attack in their own yard. Said that I could be dead, but wasn't, thankfully. Moose are mean from what I hear, aren't they? Like they can be very, very aggressive. An Edmonton senior was beaten and bruised after being attacked by a moose. And it was in the Forest Heights neighborhood. We have a lot more in store. Stephen Yates is going to be joining us. Don't miss. Stick with us. We have a lot more coming up. GoldCo precious metals. Honestly, you need the security that precious metals provide during this. What do you call it? Economic uncertainty. I don't even know how we would refer to it. GoldCo can do that. And they're so incredibly easy to work with. You can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today. And you can also qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. That's like actual real silver that they instantly match to your account tax and penalty free. Gold and silver have stood the test of time for generations, and people turn to these as a hedge during these periods of economic instability. Hard assets offer that. It's not like paper. Gold and silver are not tied to the performance of the stock market or a government debt. It's a real tangible way to safeguard your portfolio. So get educated before you invest with their free 2025 gold and silver kit. It will break down everything that you need to know about how precious
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SPEAKER 17 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this third hour. You can listen coast to coast. Channel 347 is the stream. Rumble X everywhere. Over the weekend, I saw this very interesting headline from The Washington Post. Just kind of blew the mind. I mean, this, you know, these this absolute, absolute bastion of good journalistic enterprise. The headline reads, the mysterious drop in fentanyl seizures on the U.S.-Mexico border. The reasons, they write, behind the decrease of fentanyl seizures in the U.S. and along the Mexico-U.S. border are... complex. It's just complex. We, the poors, wouldn't understand the complexity. It's so complex. You know who might be able to understand the complexities? Our very good friend, Stephen Yates. And you can find him on X at Yates.com. He served in not one, but two presidential administrations. And he is a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He joins us now via video. My friend, This is an issue close to your heart, and it just amazes me that The Washington Post cannot bring themselves to understand really what is the reason behind this precipitous drop in fentanyl seizures along the border. What do you make of this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Dana, I have to admit, at first when I saw that, I had to make sure it wasn't fake or a Babylon Bee or something like that because I almost had a seizure myself about that headline about seizures. I mean, it is absolutely painful to see people just willfully swooped up in some kind of fake religion that blinded them to reality for four years. And the horrible, horrible, tragic fact is that our border was open on purpose by the United States government and the Biden administration. That countless gotaways came across that border from several nationalities and several horrible organizations that are now murdering Americans in any number of different ways. But what is undeniable now is in the first hundred plus days of the Trump administration, President Trump proved all you did need was a president. So what that really means, just to put it to brass tacks, is not only did Joe Biden or whoever had the auto pen allow this to happen in terms of the crossing of the border, they allowed the murder of 400,000 Americans. That is, in my book, a crime against humanity.
SPEAKER 17 :
Very much so. And this the cooperation of China in exploiting this weakness and working with the cartels is this veneer of plausible deniability. I mean, it's insane that they're not realizing the severity of that association. And exactly, you know, that's the only complexity that there is, I think, in this issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, there have been a lot of experts that have gone back and forth about does the Chinese government know and how hard is it really to try to tackle things in China? Well, I have some very good friends that I respect in a lot of different ways, but when they say this, I just have to admit I don't have any intellectual patience. for that kind of talk anymore. I mean, if a government can crack down on the likes of Jimmy Lai in Hong Kong, crush churches in China, have slave labor and organ harvesting among their Muslim minority, and the world doesn't really do that much about it, just color me deeply skeptical that they couldn't have done something about this. And so no one ever needs to make excuses for them. But really, when it comes down to it, It was still, as much as I hold the Chinese government responsible for the chemicals and messing with the cartels, our government opened the door. We would have had maybe thousands of deaths, but instead we had hundreds of thousands of deaths. That's on American decision makers.
SPEAKER 17 :
Speaking of China, apparently they're accusing the United States of, I think the quote was severely violating the tariffs truce. Do we have I mean, was it an official truce with them? Was it? I don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
well it's one of those days where we agreed to disagree but we agree we'll talk again in ninety days and maybe in between so whatever that means it's sort of verbal swiss cheese uh... what it really meant was we didn't want to have this fight we didn't want to talk down markets we wanted to deal with other issues and maybe in that ninety days we'd we'd bag a deal or two among allies that wouldn't would increase our hand uh... all of which i can kind of except as a logic but i think secretary besant has said it pretty clearly What happened in Geneva didn't move the needle that much. Things have stalled somewhat. There's a lot going on. And the Chinese haven't exactly moved. They're still talking tough. And I don't know that we have any measurable movement on this. But you and I have talked about this for years. And after this was announced, I never expected that this was going to change the fundamental direction of things. I support the team in trying. Because everything else has failed. So how can I criticize them for trying this? But give it 90 days, see where we are. Maybe you change it a little bit, give it another 90 days, but then accept the fact they're engaging in an economic war against us and we have to behave accordingly.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts, too, on the big thing that was going around last week over the revocation of student visas. Because a lot of the times I don't think what people realize is, you know, if you're coming over and correct me if I'm wrong on this. But if you're coming over from China and you're a student and you're going to an American university, by and large, if you're being allowed to come over to the United States from China, in most instances, you're a person who's considered to be in good standing with the CCP. And so it's immediately questionable. Is that accurate? Is that an accurate assessment?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think at a level of principle, you have to assume that the Chinese government is going to vet who they're sending over more than we are going to vet who they're sending over. And I don't expect either side to be perfect. And so there probably are some people that get in that mix that are not best pals of the CCP, but they haven't tripped any wires to get them flagged in their system either. And fundamentally, where I come down on this is sort of like the deportations. If you've come in illegally, then you have no right to be here. If you overstay a visa, you have no right to be here. And if you came on a student visa but engaged in behavior that's against the code of conduct of that university or against the law in the United States, then you don't deserve to be here. But the government has a capacity issue, and they probably need to address highest priorities first. So all the scare tactics of McCarthyism 2.0 I don't buy because there's no way the U.S. government is going to have the capacity to wrap up 300,000 Chinese students all at once. But the ones that are in the most sensitive programs, the ones that are tied to people we can verify, let's get that ball rolling because they don't have a right to be here.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think it's a good point. And I also think, too, I mean, especially when you're talking about a geopolitical foe that would exploit any opening possible in order to gain some kind of advantage over its adversary. I mean, I think it would be irresponsible for government officials to not consider that as a possibility when looking at the issuance of visas, etc.
SPEAKER 05 :
right that idea i think we've laid down principle communicate clearly our government even so my best pals in government don't always speak clearly and for heaven's sake i may not speak clearly all the time but begin with the core principles that this is about people with ties to the communist party of china something we should know and be able to prove not just assume this should be targeting not indiscriminately in a broad way but people who are in areas that give them advantage or leverage that shouldn't be done in a time of crisis or in advance of what could be a time of crisis. And in a circumstance where we have, I think, a new Cold War just undeclared by some, then the people who come from that country is not going after an ethnicity. There are millions and millions of ethnically Chinese people that are not citizens of the People's Republic of China. This is talking about people of a particular citizenship, particular ties. And so let's make sure that we've got that buttoned up and straight. But with that, Come on, let's get on with it. They're going after us, and they don't deserve to have their people in the best slots in schools, which, by the way, ought to go to Americans first anyway.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly. That doesn't make any sense as to why it doesn't. We're talking with our good friend Stephen Yates. Last thing for you, and you just mentioned it, the new Cold War, and I know that this is a piece that's over at Heritage as well. I mean, essentially, that's how it's described, and I think you've even said that before, you know, several years ago that essentially this, if you want to call it that, relationship or association that we have with China is a Cold War at this point because of the posturing of China, the aggressiveness of China, etc. Are we in a better spot now than we were four months ago with regards to this? Or has that mostly remained unchanged thus far?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think we're in a better spot. I wouldn't say that we're in a good and healthy spot just yet, but the trajectory is in the right direction in my point of view. First and foremost, because stage one of getting serious about this is getting out of our own way at home. trying to make sure that we have revival renewal at home, secure supply chains, lessening dependencies, all that stuff. The giant golden reset on trade, the new heyday of investing in AI infrastructure in the United States, energy independence, food security independence, all the goods. That's what you need to do first before you have better, less risky options for containing a geostrategic foe and containing their malign influences, I should say. And so, I mean, there's professors, people who write in August journals that will quibble about what to call this. But what I would say is when you have a government that is directly responsible for murdering more than a million of your citizens by COVID and fentanyl when you have millions of jobs and trillions of dollars of shaved off your economy by unfair trade practices and you have the world's most rapid military modernization funded by your own stupidity giving them money and technology what are you in if not a cold war just short of being in a military conflict
SPEAKER 17 :
Amen to that. Steven Yates, as scary as that is. At Yates, at Yates comes on X. Always so good to see you, my friend. Safe travels. I know you're traveling all around this rock. So safe travels to you. And we will see you again soon. God bless you. Have a great week. Good to see you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks so much, Dana. Take good care.
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
You guys have to hear this Texas lawmaker. His name is John Bryant, and he is a Democrat from Lake Jackson, Texas. He is talking about banning a very particular type of firearm, and y'all need to hear him out. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 22 :
This bill legalizes sawed-off shark guns. What? This bill legalizes sawed-off shark guns.
SPEAKER 17 :
Sawed-off shark guns. I mean, not to be confused with the regular non-sawed-off shark gun. You know, silent but deadly shark guns. Now, he didn't say anything about the incendiary pudding rounds. That was... Not included in this. So I don't know how he feels about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Brownie batter ballistics.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I'm saying, you know. I have never heard of that. And the shotgun. Not quite sure where one can get it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Didn't Biden say you just fire off the shotgun a couple times?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think he did fire off the shotgun. I think that's why he fell up the stairs. He had an unintentional. Yes, of the shark gun. Just saying. I mean, that goes beyond even like a Texas accent. That guy. We don't need these sort of shark guns. these guys. I can't deal. By the way, I wanted to follow up. Have we heard back from Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick? Per chance?
SPEAKER 14 :
We've been trying to get a hold of him to talk about the...
SPEAKER 17 :
No, THC and why we don't even have, why we don't have property tax relief, but we have all this like big government stuff coming through the Texas house. That's so crazy. I hope he's okay. And he didn't just like disappear, you know, from just us.
SPEAKER 14 :
But one hour ago I followed up and still haven't heard anything.
SPEAKER 17 :
So how many times does that make it now?
SPEAKER 14 :
So one, two, three, today was the fourth.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. And I'm just, you know, curious because I just, you know, We need to talk to him about these issues.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't think he really wants to talk about it.
SPEAKER 17 :
I am so fun to talk to. I mean, I am nothing but joy and light.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's true.
SPEAKER 17 :
Look at it. Joyful and lightness. Yeah. So we'll keep you updated about all that. Now, because it's I guess that's something that a lot of people are. It's that Senate bill that they're banning THC. It just has nothing to do with smoking pot or anything like that. But nobody want none of these lawmakers want to talk about it now. And a lot of people are saying that Abbott should veto it. In fact, tons of letters apparently were sent to his office in Austin. So we'll see how it goes. But I don't know. I just they're they're ending their session and they've not done anything on property tax relief. just like they didn't do anything on property tax relief last session or the session really before that. Let's be honest about it. So I don't know. I mean, it's just going to be a little bit harder for me to... Actually, it's going to be a heck of a lot easier for me to unsubscribe from all their emails that they constantly pepper us with. So just saying, you know, I mean... You've got an obligation to talk to voters. It's not that difficult. He's come on the show before when we've disagreed on gun stuff. And so I'm a little surprised that he wouldn't. However, though.
SPEAKER 14 :
He was pretty skittish then, too.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. But, you know, I'm a gracious hostess. I just want to hear him narrate the science of the gummy stuff. Because that is fascinating. Science. Yeah, it'd be like, it's like when Al Sharpton put on a lab coat and did a whole science segment on his show on MSNBC. It's like the same level of expertise, you know. Just saying, just, you know, going to put that out there. All right. And then we also, we got some great guest book for you that are coming up later this week. If you sign up over at Substack Chapter and Verse, you'll get a heads up on all of those. So we have a lot of really good content planned for y'all. In the meantime, as we roll closer, Today in Stupidity.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. This happened in the Texas House. And, Juan, this is cut six. Now, one of the Democrats in the Texas House was, for whatever reason, bringing up whether or not they knew about what her dad used to do. Like, were you aware of my dad? Listen to this exchange. And then Representative Jeff Leach right afterward. It's so perfect. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Gentlemen, you have four questions.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, I will. Gentlemen, you have four questions. All right.
SPEAKER 02 :
representative leach are you aware that my grandfather was an assistant attorney general for the state of texas no congratulations are you aware that he represented texas in front of the united states supreme court nine times no are you aware that my dad worked for oscar meyer for 25 years and drove the oscar meyer wienermobile
SPEAKER 14 :
There it is. So, yeah, Democrats in the House, I guess they believe that family that's done something in the past.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's almost like she did it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, exactly. Somehow carry over to her.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. I mean, my dad did this, so it's like I did it. It's not how that works at all. By the way, the Wienermobile, that's not an easy thing to drive, I think.
SPEAKER 14 :
No.
SPEAKER 17 :
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