In this engaging episode, our group navigates the intricate relationship between fashion and personal identity. We delve into the notion of 'dressing for success,' exploring how the clothing choices we make can influence both self-perception and how we're perceived by others. From the psychological effect of dressing well to the concept of 'dopamine dressing,' the conversation provides insights into how the right attire can boost mood and motivation, setting the tone for the day. The dialogue is sprinkled with humorous anecdotes and firsthand experiences that make it relatable and entertaining.
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We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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How's it going everybody today? This is KLZ 560 AM. Good to have everybody with us today. If you're listening, give us a call at 303-477-5600. We're going to, at least for today, we're getting off the topic of the traditional man. I mean, that seems to be like the topic, like we've done three episodes. Yeah, people really want to know about that, especially from us guys. But before we get started, let's go around the room. Start with Reno.
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Hey, this is a Reno local business owner. And I would, today's my wife's birthday. So I would like to say happy birthday to her.
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Happy birthday. Happy birthday. I'm the truth. I speak nothing but the truth, but part-time janitor Brock.
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And this is Heath, the actor in Denver, Colorado. I'm out of work right now as an actor, but I'm also kind of out of work as a windshield repair. Come on, people. Come on, people. Give me jobs.
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And so today we're going to talk about – because one of our sponsors we're picking up is Men's Warehouse. So we're doing an episode for them, and we're talking about like –
SPEAKER 05 :
What does the eye of the tiger have to do with the men's warehouse?
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Sounded really good. Sounded really, really good. Men just stepping up and fulfilling their dreams.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's what inspires me. When you're dressed nice, it inspires you to go take over the world. Makes me want to walk like the catwalk.
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In a suit.
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So we're going to talk about how, like,
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it influences you like what clothing does for your mental state and your success so let's start boys first thing i thought about was how much it influences what other people think about you right i mean you're not going to go to a job interview you know in pajamas yeah yeah that's true it's it's all about the outside influence what you want to portray
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Self-expression. You express yourself by what you put on.
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It also does something for yourself. So what you look like in the mirror, you look at yourself in the mirror and you look good, it's going to boost your confidence.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that mood and motivation is going to motivate you to conquer the world. Agreed, man. So it's funny that we're talking about this. Many people believe that what you put on first thing in the morning will dictate your mood, the set of the tone for your day and how you influence people in your confidence level.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, we kind of hit all those points, didn't we?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, like if you, if you hop up in the morning and you, you know, let's say, let's say your job required, you're the CEO of your company and it requires you to wear a suit and you go rolling in every day with some ripped jeans. People are going to be like, Hey man, what's going on with the company?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, the thing is, I guess you could end up being the owner of the company. And if you wear clothes like that, they might just put you to the grunt work.
SPEAKER 04 :
But what if your job, you know, has you dressed in a certain dress code? Like if you're a painter, you know, a framer, you got to wear certain clothes.
SPEAKER 05 :
You get paint all over you. That's what I was talking about. I was telling Arino just a minute ago, if anybody reads the E-Myth, Um, the guy talks about how he was a painter and he was just, you know, he wanted to charge more, but he didn't get to and didn't feel like he could, but it came down to a sense of pride. And his wife told him, start wearing suits. And that set him apart. And at first he was like, well, how am I going to, it doesn't make sense to get a suit and get paint on it. And she said, no, go to the Goodwill, get a suit like for 10, $20. And, and it changed the dynamic of how his interaction with all of his customers were and how much money he could make in charge.
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And listen, people, if you know more than us, give us a call at 303-477-5600. There's also a correlation between mental illness and the way you dress. There's tons of studies out there about people who they're super depressed. They're always down. They can't never achieve anything in life because of the type of outfits they put on every single day. And it's crazy.
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There's a concept called dopamine dressing. Okay, tell us.
SPEAKER 05 :
That sounds like a dressing for your salad.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dopamine dressing. Well, it's just the same concept as, you know, when you exercise, it produces dopamine. But maybe this produces, you know, not dopamine on the inside, just it's a, you know, psychologically it produces dopamine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, no, for sure. For absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's why it's called dopamine dressing. Meaning, you know, if I put on a suit and tie, it just might, you know, change my perception.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's just like working out releases things in you that like it really helps against anxiety and depression and. It's huge, dude. What people wear. I'm serious. Okay, check this out. January 26, 2025, Forbes wrote an article called Dress for Success, Why Leaders and Their Appearance Still Matters. And they started off with first impression is everything. Nobody wants to talk to you. If you look like a piece of crap 24-7. Let's be real. No, seriously, think about the guy on the corner holding the cardboard. He ain't had a shower in three days. How many times have you not talked to that guy?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, you're right, bro.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I guess that's true.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dude, I mean, if billionaires are sitting here saying, hey, man, you got to dress for success. All right, all right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so if the guy on the street corner... Let's talk about this.
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Let's dive in.
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So if the guy on the street corner was holding a sign and was dressed good, are you more likely to give him money? Are you more likely to say, well, I give him money because he's dressed nice. He probably already has money.
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I'm more likely to give him money if he looks like he's successful versus some crack cat with a needle in his arm.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's dumb, dude. I got two... Not dumb, but it's... Look, I got two examples for you.
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It's intuitive, you know. There's two examples for you. I mean, these guys are outside the box here, but Jack Black... and Adam Sandler. These guys are multimillionaires, man. Billionaires, in fact. And they dress comfort. They dress comfort.
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They are. But at the end of the day, when somebody doesn't know you, your first impression goes a long ways.
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For sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm telling you right now, if I walk into your establishment for a job and you're hiring me and I pull up to your business and it's just ran down, windows broken out, I'm probably going to be like, this is a fly by night joke and I'm leaving, dude.
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I mean, you know what I'm saying?
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It also makes a difference on your appearance when you come to the job. Right. If you come to the job interview or first impressions, you show up at a job site because we do interviews at job sites sometimes. You don't have tools. You don't have the proper protective gear. That first impression that you present to me as a craftsman – That says everything I need to know. Wow. And you're a business owner.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's coming from the business owner. Hey, I was just coming up with a joke. You want to hear it? Yeah. All right. Here's a joke. So the person who's going to go get the job working in the cornfield has to wear overalls so he could dress for shucksess. You got to shuck the corn.
SPEAKER 03 :
That was a dad joke. Ha, ha. People form an impression about you in seven seconds. Is that true? Of course. I would agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
immediately like like forming opinions about us that quickly but yeah that's what statistics are saying what that's just that's that goes along with guys i'm citing this from like mental health like websites and stuff yeah that goes along with uh you know how you form a relationship with a woman once you look at her you know you immediately know if you want to date that girl within a second Most people don't want to get to know you before they say, okay, yeah, I'm going to date you. Because the outer appearance is absolutely everything nowadays, the way you look. That's 90% if they're going to date you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Reno. They always say don't judge a book by its cover.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I'm about to debunk this according to what?
SPEAKER 09 :
Go ahead and debunk it.
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So when it says don't judge a book by its cover, It's saying that the reason why people make that kind of statement, it's because they really don't have anything to offer anybody. Most people that have something to offer somebody dresses like they have something to offer.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's actually a good statement. It is and it isn't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, listen, I get you shouldn't judge somebody by the cover because we all say it. But it's also one of those sayings like the person who doesn't have money is always the guy who says it's not about money. The person who has money says it's about money.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's good. Tell us. I don't know, man. Now I'm kind of waffling back and I'm going to go with a Reno on this because it's like judge not lest you be judged into what measure you judge. You shall be judged. And we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. So then doesn't it make people shallow?
SPEAKER 04 :
if all they do is judge somebody by their appearance that is is is a a facade anyway yeah but you could only you could only use that concept with people that are religious if you're in a world that no one's religious they're not using that concept they would care less i kind of disagree yeah i mean to be true but not everybody's using that concept because most people are probably not reading the bible
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you could play both sides because sometimes when I get off of work, I look like crap. If I'm in the field and I'm working and we just did a duck bank and I'm full of mud.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you catch you at the wrong time of the day.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but.
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And you aren't looking sharp.
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When I, you know, go to church in a suit or I'm going out to eat and I'm dressed up or, you know. So you could. You could look at the right person at the wrong time and miss out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Circumstantially. And the same thing, Kent, you find somebody who's not worth their salt and they're dressed up nice, you can stuff a lot of crap into a suit.
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Yeah, you can. And anybody who knows more than us, call at 303-477-5600. Another thing that when it says don't judge a book by its cover, is not how reality works. Confidence and authority is what people look for.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it's the way you carry yourself.
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Yes. If you turn around and you go to a business endeavor, let's say this person's offering you $50 million. You're not coming looking your worst. You will go and look in your best. Because it brings confidence. It brings authority. It tells the person sitting across from you, you know what you want. This is just studies. This isn't what Brock says.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is all studies, man. There's multiple parts to that. Okay. Because you could... You could dress nice and have no confidence.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's a true statement. That's a very true statement.
SPEAKER 09 :
But that other person doesn't know that. If you dress nice, you'll have more confidence than you would have if you didn't dress nice. I agree with that. So it goes in like hygiene, the way you carry yourself. I mean, I think you're better off if you dress nice with your own perception. Right. The perception of yourself. Then that'll boost your outward confidence.
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Have any of you guys ever had a makeover? No. No, like a makeover, like where they get you a suit and hair. Oh, that would be cool, though, dude. Pedicure, manicure, all that kind of stuff, and like how that might make you feel. I've never had one.
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Never had one.
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I did have a suit that I ordered, and I had it tailored. And as I was standing there, and she was tailoring and everything, and then when I showed up when it was all finished— I felt sharp because I was standing on like this, this platform and there's all these mirrors around and you're just checking like all of your, all of your angles and it looks good.
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So, well, I guess this would be the question. What's more important or is there even a difference? A man and the way he dresses or a woman, the way she dresses, which is, which is more defining.
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Women already figured it out. Probably.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's, there's, there's, um, women who dress professional and then there's women that dress up at that, you know, maybe going out to a club or, you know, dressing sexy. You wouldn't dress like that to a job interview or maybe some would for different reasons. Right. I think there's more differences with women dressing than there is men.
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So, I mean, do you think dressing up empowers a man more or a woman more? I would think a man, right? Because it kind of fits his personality? I don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think that would be kind of individually. How many men in suits turn your head?
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Well, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's a very good point. That's a very good point. How many women in red turn your head, man?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, no, no, no, no. I get it. But there's also a time you see a man, he's in a suit, and you're like, dude, that's a sweet-looking suit.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'll compliment a guy, man. Yeah. I'll be in a Starbucks. I'll be like, man, you're fly.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I've stopped at the store on the way home from church when I'm wearing a suit. And I always get compliments.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's because I'm following you.
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You look so sexy, Reno. Again, call us at 303-477-5600. Well, wouldn't it start with the inside, though, too?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, if you're not in love with yourself.
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So I could dress up. If I'm not in love with myself and I'm depressed, but I go dress nice, do you think that would help that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, there's a study. Oh, yeah, I'll show you the study on it.
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But I would say this too, though, man, is that it's a cheap fix to just do that. But it gets the ball rolling in the right direction of self-love, self-care, self-maintenance.
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So when it comes to social, psychological, and personality science, they believe the first impression tells a person whether or not you're trustworthy, your state of mind is good, if you have money or not, and it defines how attractive you are in a female's eyes. If you're missing teeth, Holes in your jeans. I ain't took a shower for, you know, three weeks. That woman you're taking on a date, that's probably the end of the date right there.
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I would say I totally agree because, you know, there was a young lady I liked a long time ago, but she always was in pants at work, and I was not interested because she never wore a dress. Like, I wear pants. You know what I'm saying? If I'm wearing pants, I don't want to see you wearing pants also. So if we're going to get dressed that morning, what, are you going to wear my pants to work? Oh, snap. Reno's going to get you. Hold up.
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First call at 303-477-5600. Ladies, Brian just kind of threw y'all under the bus. So if y'all want to come in and throw the truth under the bus, all means call up. All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
What about yoga pants?
SPEAKER 05 :
Brian, do you wear your other pants? What about those peach pants or something like that? Peach pants? Yeah, they caress the butt, man. The stitching and stuff kind of makes the butt really plump. No, yeah. There's some pants that are...
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I'm just asking because, you know, thank goodness I haven't seen a man in yoga pants. But, you know, that's a lot of women's go-to is yoga pants. They're pants, but they're... To me, they're for women.
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But they're quite revealing. And pants.
SPEAKER 03 :
Guys, in studying this, I had no idea there was a scripture in the Bible that I'm about to read to y'all that said it. Proverbs 22 says, Rich and poor have this in common. The Lord is the maker of them all. The reason why you're poor and don't have anything is because you don't try to change your mindset so the Lord has made you poor. If you're rich, you change your mindset. And with a mindset comes the way you dress.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree with you 100%. Your economy is personal. Right. So if everything is dictated by your mindset. Home.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. That's true.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's true. If you purpose to change your mindset, you will change your situation.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's a mic drop moment, and we're on the mics, guys. Repeat that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, repeat that. If you don't like the situation you're in, you change your mindset. You purpose to change your mindset, and you'll change your situation. It's all eternal.
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That's for every person listening to us.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, there's some things that, you know, Not everyone can change. Like, you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
There are existential circumstances that are outside of that, but one can change their circumstance, get out of that circle, get out of that position that you're in.
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And the five people you hang around, you look at the five people you hang around the most, and that's who you are. So if you're hanging around, if all your friends are broke with broke mentalities. Oh, my God, this is a good show. And there's four of you, you're the fifth one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Guys call it 303-477-5600. Reno's hitting on something. That's true, man.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I need to meet more millionaires.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, you need to shake us loose?
SPEAKER 09 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
But what he's saying is true because your mindset drives you. You know what I'm saying? We're visionaries, guys. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here.
SPEAKER 04 :
So would that be the reason why you don't ever call me?
SPEAKER 03 :
If your mind is always... just cast down and all you do is think negative, it's going to reflect on your outside. It's just the way it is, dude. And I didn't even know this scripture was in the Bible. I've never read it until we started talking about the way men dress.
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But we've got to think outside the box and know that we have an enemy that you're fighting. No, the Bible is the Bible.
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I don't care about the enemy.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm not saying that. I'm saying, you know, it all sounds good and dandy, dressed nice, you know, get up, you know, take a shower, put on the men's warehouse suit. You know? Have you done it every day? No, no, listen. Real fast. Hold on.
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Real fast.
SPEAKER 04 :
you're you're you're allowing us to see your mindset oh your mindset is showing your mindset is showing no no i know that i know that but what i'm i'm trying to say something different i'm saying we that's all good and dandy but on the outside you have an enemy that you're fighting against that's here to try to kill steal and destroy you so you're you know you're he's trying to destroy your mind so you're already in a tug of war with that all in its own you see what i'm saying
SPEAKER 03 :
No, but you've got to change your mindset. Like these dudes just said, it's all starting in the mind.
SPEAKER 05 :
Brian, I think you have the propensity and the capability to, if you chose to dress nice and fly, you could probably set standards of nice and fly. Yeah. Because you know what it is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Guys, call us at 303-477-5600. So one way I learned to change your mindset is what you put into you. What you read, what you watch, what you listen to. So my opinion, I don't have anything to back it, but if you are constantly listening to certain things, then that's what gets inside of you. Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER 05 :
And comparison is the thief of joy when we watch and look at things too.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, or compare yourself like I'm not as far as I should be in life or whatever. Everyone has their season. Everyone has their moment. But if you change what you're putting in, you're changing the way you dress, change what you eat, change how you work out, or if you don't work out,
SPEAKER 03 :
all that stuff makes a difference on on on your mindset and what you what you put out man arena and he took over the show this is good so call that 303-477-5600 let me read this to you guys real quick um dressing well brings physical attractiveness like we talked about which correlates into self-confidence When a woman looks at you because you are and I get you're all married. So hypothetical for guys who aren't married. If you if you turn around, hold on, hear me. If you're some single young dude and you're chasing success, how you dress and how you even even as a business owner, how people look at you and grow your business is going to be what they think about you.
SPEAKER 05 :
I have a thought. Okay. I have a thought. So there's vanity of vanities. Everything under the sun is vanity, right? All is vanity and vexation after the spirit. But there are things that if we don't take care of them, if we don't treat them well, and we don't maintain them and keep them polished and clean and all that stuff.
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Like teeth.
SPEAKER 05 :
Teeth is one of them. That if we don't do that, then really we're kind of going against what we should be doing, which is kind of honoring the thing that we do have. So I'm seeing cell phones. We all got cell phones, right? I'm not the one to allow my cell phone, maybe because of vanity, I'm not sure, but I'm not the one to allow my cell phone to be all broken and janky and stuff for a period of time because I will take that immediately and get the $100 and fix it or something like that. And I was looking at B's cell phone and stuff like that. I don't know if that pertains to the same thing of dressing nice, keeping your things nice, not letting your things get wrecked.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, for sure, because what does the Bible say? Something like if you destroy this temple. Like, don't you feel like if all you're ever doing is destroying yourself, you're destroying the temple of the Lord?
SPEAKER 09 :
So real fast, when I walk into my house and it's a mess, it changes my mood.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
So if I walk into a clean house, it relaxes me. So in that aspect, not, you know, I mean, that's a part of your environment. For sure. You keep your house clean. That says something about your psyche.
SPEAKER 05 :
Cleanliness is next to godliness.
SPEAKER 09 :
And, you know, you keep your body, your appearance, all that. I think it's all along the same lines.
SPEAKER 03 :
And people, we'll talk to everybody on the other side. We've got two more minutes left of this call at 303-477-5600 or call on the other side. And it's just interesting. I really do wonder why so many people...
SPEAKER 04 :
fight against how a person dresses like for example people who don't keep themselves up will always want to be like ah he he's just trying to show off because it was uh to piggyback on what reno said so do you think if i dress better that would correlate to me having my car clean more yes that i wouldn't you know my car is kind of trashed half the time i just let it go i think that says something a lot about
SPEAKER 09 :
your inside what's inside you or could you correlate it with you know working too much you know I'm at work six in the morning I get off at four in the afternoon I work a lot my car is spotless you go look at my car right now there's I don't like filth. I don't like clutter.
SPEAKER 05 :
What Reno was saying about the house and how it makes you feel the same thing for me, man, when I have my car cluttered, it's an example of my life cluttered. Chaos.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. That makes you think about hoarders, dude. People who just, piles and piles and piles of trash everywhere, dude. Like, you can't function like that. And people talk to us on the other side. We'll get back to y'all again. It's 303-477-5600, The Guy's Perspective.
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SPEAKER 09 :
What's up, Eric?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, you know, I agree with... All, pretty much everything you guys are talking about, about dressing good, like if you go to a job interview or, you know, how people perceive you, you know what I mean? Okay. I think you're all right on that. But there's something you guys are leaving out. Tell us. And I don't know if it hasn't occurred to you, but you're not talking about this. You know... The way I explain this is, you know those Judge Judy shows? Okay. There's a lot of them. I watch a lot of them. They're kind of amusing to me, but I couldn't even tell you how many times I've seen this where a married couple or business partners or friends or neighbors or something like that, you know, like a woman or a man or even two gay people, one of them will say, when I met this person... They were a client of my boss's, and they dressed real nice, and I was very impressed with this man. And I even ended up marrying him. But over a period of months, the veneer kind of sort of wore off, and I started to understand what this guy's really about. uh i i couldn't even tell you how many times i've seen that so i agree with you it is but you got to always keep in mind that maybe this is just uh i'm not going to say a put on but maybe this is uh a facade kind of a little yeah you're right a facade that's what i'm trying to say that's one thing you guys haven't talked about oh that's good this is a great call thank you for that yeah thanks eric
SPEAKER 09 :
There's always something more to the surface.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that's another thing. You really got to keep that in mind because that's happened to me before with bosses or places I worked when I first interviewed there. and I took a little tour around the restaurant, and everything looked ship-shaped. But you stay there for a few weeks, and, man, you start finding out what's really going on. That's a true statement.
SPEAKER 03 :
Their true colors are eventually going to shine. Eric, thank you for calling in, man. We really appreciate that. You made us think about something we didn't think about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Eric, that was a wonderful call.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wonderful call.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, but, hey, Kate, good show, you guys. Thanks. Thanks, brother.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Eric.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was a great call, actually. That was a great call. Let me lead with this, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I'll mention my buddy Chris and his wife, man. You get together, just like Eric was saying, and you have this facade of who you are and stuff. And I remember... my buddy, Chris, he's going to hate me on this. Uh, uh, they were going through some hard times and the wife was putting on some weight and the wife was getting like a plate of food, a big plate of food. And then she got a second big plate of food and they've already talked about her weight. Right. Um, and, uh, and so when she goes back for that second or third plate, heaping it on, um, uh, uh, He says, whoa, hey, Mallory, what are you doing? And she says, if you can't love me at my worst, you don't expect me at my best. And he said, when did I ever sign up for your worst?
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
When did I ever sign up? And after they had some heart to heart and they broke it down and everything, she realized that he was right and that we should never kind of like give up on what it was that we first poised ourself as. It's like, hey, my wife deserves my best.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, you're making a great point because I see so many people that get married. They portray themselves to be one way. And then, you know, they might have kids or jobs and they let themselves go. But yet, you know, the spouse or the wife, they want, you know, to divorce because they let themselves go. They're not doing the things that they did in the beginning. So they lose, you know, they lose interest in that person.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So sometimes things are out of their control. Not everyone that gains weight wants to gain weight. There's thyroid issues. There was a situation where someone had got into a car accident and hurt their back, so they couldn't work out the same. There's a lot of things that take place that might not allow someone to lose weight or to actually get back to their best.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I'm going to read this to you because these are all excellent points. In some researches, they found that 90% of people had their mindset changed completely and their attitude by just the way they dressed. Mental illness. They did a study of like 200 people. 96 of those 200 people, mental illness went away after a year of the way they dressed. We have a caller calling in. Okay, well, let's keep going until they do. Wearing the right kind of clothing. Oh, Truth Daddy, hey, how's it going? Tell us, man. Tell us what's up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, first I want to comment on, on the truth talking about women wearing pants if you're dating a chick from the office that's a janitor she probably won't be wearing pants plunging toilets and stuff like that so well also what y'all guys need to hit on this does the suit make the man or does the man make the suit that's that's a good one too So I want to hear you all on that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're going to. Thanks, buddy, for calling in, man. The man makes the suit. See you later. So what is it? Does the suit make the man or does the man make the suit? I think both.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think the man makes the suit. Okay, explain. Truth first and then Reno. So first of all, I think you have to have the mindset to put the suit on. Oh, that's deep, dude. I think like Eric, our first caller, And that's only a surface. That's only the first thing you see, which I think is important. But eventually, you know, who you are is going to come out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Are you ready for the truth perspective? Oh, truth bomb? Nothing but truth.
SPEAKER 03 :
What makes it, the suit or the man in the suit?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, isn't this what this show's about? Dress nice and it'll change my mindset. So then the suit's making me, because if I put on the suit, then my mindset's going to change.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, that's deep. He's contradicting you, Reno. That's what this whole show's about.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's not really a contradiction.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not really a contradiction.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's helping him change his mindset. I mean, if you look good. If you look good and it boosts your self-esteem and your confidence, it's going to change.
SPEAKER 04 :
But that's why I said it's bold because first you need the mindset like you were saying. But since I'm the man and I had that mindset to put that suit on, once I put that suit on, that suit's making me feel just as good as I thought it was. So it's both hand in hand.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me ask this question first. Would you recognize Superman if he never had the suit? Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, bro.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. That's just a movie. That's just Clark Kent. But you know what? He's just Clark Kent. That's what I'm saying. Would I recognize you as a millionaire without your status, your clothing? Check this out, man. Have I not always been kind of like comedy and comic relief and making light of myself to make friends? So this is like how my life is. So wouldn't it sit that some of the suits that I've bought are those funny, humorous suits where it's just like bright orange or where it's just like mustaches on it or something like that, you know, like some of those suits.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. No.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because that was me coming out in those things, but like I never saw myself as dressing fly or, you know, sexy or beautiful or something like that.
SPEAKER 03 :
So basically your clothing fits your personality, I guess. And call it 303-477-5600. We'd like to hear from everybody. So you believe it fits your personality.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And that's why, that's why actually what I did start doing was I stopped wearing, um, like I love my jumpsuits, right? The Adidas and the Puma and all that stuff. But what I did start doing is changing out my T-shirts to all be like Jesus. So if I was going to have a billboard, it'd be Jesus this, Jesus that. But it's always these like Jesus puns. It's still me coming out in my clothes through humor.
SPEAKER 03 :
So kind of like Jordans are for his brand, basketball, right? When you think Jordan, you think his brand. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
SPEAKER 04 :
See, see, when I put on Air Jordans, isn't it supposed to make me think I can go play basketball better?
SPEAKER 03 :
I promise you, if I'm a baller in college and I'm wearing some Jordans, I'm going to be thinking about balling like that, dude. That's probably what they think about. I mean, I would imagine. I mean, look at everybody. Because that goes back to the saying, if you look at Michael Jordan and everybody's chasing his status because of what he's done. That's not because of what he wore. Well, his shoes, his shoes.
SPEAKER 09 :
His shoes, but he could have put on some Converse.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you think he would have still had the brand like it does? Him flying through the air?
SPEAKER 09 :
Whatever – he made that brand. So you don't think the brand made him? No, he made that brand.
SPEAKER 05 :
He brought it back. That's deep. He brought it back from the depths.
SPEAKER 09 :
He brought it – they were – well, according to the movie, they were a failing company. I didn't do the research to see what numbers they were at. But even – But Jordan – He's a phenomenal athlete.
SPEAKER 03 :
For sure, a phenomenal athlete. And every basketball player is inspiring to be like him. But look at the younger generation.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's not because of what he wore. That's because he was a superior athlete and he produced on the court.
SPEAKER 03 :
You don't think he had to live up to the hype of his shoes and all the brand that's being sold around the world.
SPEAKER 09 :
He created that hype. Yeah, he created it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, you think he created it and the brand didn't create it? Because I really believe the brand created who he is.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, he created that brand. They gambled on that. They gambled on that situation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the reason why I say that is because his shoes are going to outlive him. When Jordan dies, those shoes are still going to be selling, dude.
SPEAKER 04 :
But it was a gamble, Brock. The CEO of Nike, because everybody wanted to wear Reebok at the time, So, you know, so the CEO of Nike wanted to pick a college athlete. And he said, let's put it all on him. I think he's going to be the best class. And he became what they thought he was. And then the brand just blew up.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you know more than us, call at 303-477-5600. This is deep.
SPEAKER 05 :
According to that show, wasn't Nike at that time, like, their big sales were like. Track. Running. Track.
SPEAKER 03 :
They were running shoes. So Nike didn't come about from Jordan? Because Nike is Jordan now. No, no, no.
SPEAKER 09 :
Jordan gambled on Michael Jordan. Nike was a shoe company. They sponsored Jordan, and he made them what they are today. Without that Jordan brand, they would probably still be a running shoe. They signed him out of college.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I don't think they signed him out of college. I think his brand came when he was in the NBA. But this is the point I'm saying. His brand is going to outlive him. So his brand is what made him. He didn't make the brand.
SPEAKER 09 :
We made the brand.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know about that. If we were all wearing men's warehouse and we're the top tier Michael Jordans of radio.
SPEAKER 03 :
Then we're making men's warehouse. Then we are making men's warehouse. Men's warehouse is not making us. Then we would be making men's warehouse. We'd be making his. It's helping us.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know about that. Men's warehouse is already established as one of the biggest brands to make suits.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, I can see. But let's say we're starting ground level. They come to us. We put on a suit. Did we make the brand or did the brand make us?
SPEAKER 09 :
It went hand in hand. Merger.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is a deep topic, man.
SPEAKER 09 :
Best apples and oranges because... but i mean you see what i'm saying the reason why we bring up the analogy of jordan because jordan is the face of mba right now so if if i if i build a house it's gonna outlive me yes okay yes i built that house that's a good analogy that is a good analogy so jordan built
SPEAKER 05 :
the Jordan brand didn't he he built that what do you guys know of Jordan after that obviously it was all the Nike and the Air Jordans and all that but there after wasn't there Hanes he has an underwear thing too there were Hanes campaigns and then there does he still is that still a thing and then usually probably all things like you know like in his maturity then it'd be like suits and watches and stuff
SPEAKER 03 :
And anybody who knows more about all this and how a guy puts on his suit and how it makes him feel, call 303-477-5600.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I want to get back to what he was talking about, the facade.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, we're getting back on track. That was the whole point of the Jordan thing is – Was Jordan's game play what made the shoe or did the shoe make him or was it all just the facade? And then what about the fallout?
SPEAKER 05 :
What about the fallout of everybody who put on the Jordan shoes subsequently after that and how that made them feel?
SPEAKER 09 :
What do you mean fallout?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, not the fallout, the positive fallout. Anybody who wore the shoes after and it made them feel extra special so that they could achieve higher too.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's because of what he did in the game.
SPEAKER 03 :
But that goes back to Brian. Is that a facade? Because I know if I put on some Jordans going ball, I may suck, but I'm feeling like I'm the king of the court, man.
SPEAKER 14 :
Second you throw some Jordans on, you're legit.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's because of what Jordan did on the court. So then it is a facade, like Brian was saying. Well, it's a facade, but it wasn't a facade for Jordan because he made the brand.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's deep, dude. Okay, this is just from what I think. Just by the way you dress, you can gain opportunities, network, and resources by the way a person dresses.
SPEAKER 05 :
So can you wear a three-piece suit to an interview with some Jordans.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would say no. I say you look like an idiot.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not if you're an NBA player. Not if the NBA is recruiting you in the first round of the draft. No, I will debunk that any day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dude, I hate watching people dressed in such a sweet suit and then have no socks and some dumb shoes on. You see it from the combine all the time. You got three-fourths of your outfit making you look like a stud and then you get to the bottom. Here we go. And he looked like some dude just woke up and didn't really want to put on the suit, but he just had her out the door.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, case in point, man. Brian would make a great salesman about, like, attire and wear if he applied himself.
SPEAKER 03 :
Guys, when's the last time you guys looked at the NFL draft or the NBA draft? I watch NFL draft every single year. These young men come out in suits. They don't come out in regular clothes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, no, they come in shiny.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nice suits. And think about this. $2,000 suits. They're getting $20 million contracts at the age of 19, and they're coming out with...
SPEAKER 09 :
What did you think about Deion Sanders' suit in comparison to the suits now? And I'm just saying that because he's so flashy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, it's – I mean, is there overboard? Yes, there is overboard.
SPEAKER 05 :
So flashy is too much.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know because look where it got him.
SPEAKER 05 :
I like it. You guys, I've told you about Myron Golden. I don't know if any of you have listened to him, but I love his appearance. He opens up the lapel, man, and it has MG. Myron Golden is like inside his clothing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Guys, how would you feel if you had the President of the United States talk to the American people and he wasn't in a suit and tie, you would be like, what's going on, dude?
SPEAKER 04 :
But doesn't occasion have to have any, you know... The occasion. You're not wearing a suit.
SPEAKER 03 :
It depends on your status, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
You're not wearing a suit and tie every day. I don't care what you say. I've never seen Reno in a suit and tie every day. He's not the President of the United States. No, of course. But I'm saying so it has to do with the occasion.
SPEAKER 09 :
My profession doesn't warrant me wearing a suit and tie every day. So I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it's the occasion.
SPEAKER 09 :
If you were running a Fortune 500 company, you would. If I'm in the office, I'm putting on a suit.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what I'm saying, it requires the occasion to put on the suit. You're not in a suit right now. How do you feel?
SPEAKER 09 :
He could be right. He could be right about that. Am I dressed like a bum? No, indeed not.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I'm telling you guys right now, we're doing this show because of Men's Warehouse. And Men's Warehouse gives us all five suits. We're wearing the suit to the show. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're representing them. I got another one. Check this out, man. Because obviously I've done windshield repairs for 30 years, right? I've had the Ford pickup truck. I've had the Jeeps when I'd pull up to people. And I've had the Scion. And I've had the Beamer. But when I got the Beamer and I started pulling up to customers, here's who paid attention. Those driving Beamers. Those with the Mercedes. Those... They paid attention, not like, oh, it just made me feel like I felt like they trusted me because I was driving the same. And now I roll up in a Tesla, and it makes people, I don't know, some people are like, wow, this guy's got a Tesla. Maybe I shouldn't give him all my money. And other people, I'm like, they're equal.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know of a contractor that started using a Cybertruck as a work vehicle. And it made his business go down because people thought that they were paying for the Cybertruck. Oh, wow. Although, if you look at the Cybertruck, it makes a really good work truck because it's durable. But the perception of that where people didn't want to pay for his Cybertruck.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would wager, man. I would wager that if he elevated his floor of his client base, they would appreciate that he had a truck like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
You may be right. I don't know. I just was speaking on an instance that I heard about. People calling at 303-477-5600.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is deep. How you dress, how does it affect your life, your mindset? You know, guys, from everything that I'm reading and everything that we're studying is that as a man think it, so he is. Dude, if you think you're garbage, you're going to be garbage. If you think you're successful, then you're probably going to be successful.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's one thing I can't remember who said it, but they said whatever you think you are, you're probably right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's true, and I love putting on a suit. I love the way it makes you feel. You feel better than the next person next to you, right? But, you know, two hours in, it's hard to wear all day long.
SPEAKER 05 :
When's your next suit occasion, any of you? Is it Sundays?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Sunday church. Mine's just getting cleaned right now at the cleaners. Well, they just sent me a text.
SPEAKER 04 :
Isn't a suit hard to wear all day long?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, yes, yes. But I'm telling you right now, there's people in society. Like, if Elon Musk walked in here right now, he's probably going to be in a suit and tie. And if he's not, he's going to be in something really nice. A sports jacket with a bum shirt. He's going to be in something really nice.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's probably not going to look like he came off the streets. I've seen... I don't know every occasion, but he's not always in a suit. But he dresses nice, though. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
There's never been a time... Do you think like a $1,000 t-shirt is softer than a $20 t-shirt?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. A silk shirt's probably going to be softer than just a regular cotton, I would think. I mean, I don't know. I've never worn a $1,000 t-shirt. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 14 :
But if anybody's worn one, give us a call and let us know, man. But you see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 05 :
Does dressing nice have to be expensive?
SPEAKER 09 :
It does not. Explain. The Goodwill. Yes. Okay. You can buy a really nice suit. In fact, the Goodwill sells brand new things. Okay. So just because it's inexpensive doesn't mean it's not nice.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because think about this, anxiety. They say anxiety is generally on a person who has a lot of anxiety. It's somebody who cannot distinguish what he or she should be wearing throughout the day. Hey, Doug, how's it going? Talk to us. Tell us what you think.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good, you guys. The idea of a suit, I think, is awesome. Do it, but don't break the bank. Get a good men's warehouse does a great job, you know, $200, $300 suit, and then get it tailored to fit you. And once you do that, once it's really fitting you, and maybe you go beyond the men's warehouse tailor suit, someone who really specializes, because you can always – Get it tailored two, three times. Once it fits nice, wearing it all day feels like a glove that you've had for years.
SPEAKER 03 :
Doug, you sound like a man who wears a suit. Do you wear one pretty often?
SPEAKER 12 :
No. I actually rarely do anymore. I live out in Ranching County, but I know a handful of very wealthy people out here who are still ranchers. They work. And so wearing a suit out here is just inappropriate. Doug, can I ask you a question? Sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you make the suit or does the suit make you? Good question.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a combo, but generally you make the suit. Back to your concept of the first impression, if you walk up and people see this awesome suit and you've got dirty teeth and whatever, you just look less than Captain. the suit's wearing you rather than you wearing the suit. So think of it, I mean, at times you can think of it as, you know, putting on the armor of God and how the, what's your attitude in putting that suit on? And if it's tailored to you to fit and it should amplify whatever you are, just like if you're a bad person when you're poor, you're going to be a bad person, more a bad person when you're rich.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's a true statement. If you're a jerk when you're badly dressed, you're going to be a jerk in a suit. Agreed.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. Doug, thank you so much for calling, man. Thanks, Doug. That was really good. He made a good point. Just because you put on a suit, if you're a douchebag without a suit, you're going to be a douchebag with a suit.
SPEAKER 05 :
What is it scripturally? It's like he who is trustworthy with little will be trustworthy with much, and he who is untrustworthy with little will be untrustworthy with much. Hmm. So that means that like when we when we get just like Doug was saying, if you're if you're conniving and a thief and all that stuff and you make very little money, when you start making more, you're going to be bigger.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Who was our first caller? Eric? Yes. I know he said people are putting on a facade, but you still have to. I know it's a facade. You're portraying yourself to be something that you're not on the inside, but it all starts with trying to better yourself. So you have to put on nice attire. Even if it is a facade, you're still trying to better yourself.
SPEAKER 03 :
So basically fake it till you make it to get success.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not everybody's perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wait a second. Okay. David didn't show up to the fight in the proper attire. David didn't show up to the fight in the proper attire.
SPEAKER 03 :
He came with faith, bro. After he became a king.
SPEAKER 05 :
Come on.
SPEAKER 09 :
You can't put on someone else's suit.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he said he hadn't been tested. That's a good point. Reno said it.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm telling you, Reno's been taking over the show. Men's Warehouse is going to love this, dude. You can't put on someone else's suit, bro. Nobody ever thought about that in the scripture. That's deep. You can't put on someone else's suit, bro.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's what he was asking David to do. Here, put on my suit.
SPEAKER 04 :
this is not oh that's like putting on somebody's jordan he said it's not been proven i cannot wear somebody else's shoes i cannot go to like a goodwill and if somebody already wear those shoes put them on my feet they never work they sell new shoes at goodwill they're not all used i'm just saying if i had to get used shoes it's so hard thank you for calling you guys can always hear us every saturday from two to three call at 303-477-5600 i agree with
SPEAKER 03 :
Arino, you can't put on someone else's suit. Can I give a shout out?
SPEAKER 04 :
Can I give a shout out? Mom, if you're listening, meatloaf mom.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh my goodness. Y'all have a good afternoon. See y'all later.
SPEAKER 01 :
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Join host Rick Hughes on The Flatline as he delves deep into the often-misunderstood world of Bible prophecy. In this episode, Rick addresses the pressing questions about the end times, drawing insights from scripture to provide clarity on future prophetic events. From the rapture to the tribulation, and the ultimate battle of Armageddon, uncover how these divine revelations shape our understanding of the times to come.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. It's just a short time of some motivation, a lot of inspiration, a whole lot of education. And absolutely no manipulation because we don't con you. We're not trying to solicit money. We're not trying to get you to join up, fess it up, give it up, nothing like that. We're just trying to get you to listen up. Listen to see if I can verify and identify God's plan for your life. And if I can do that, then you can orient and adjust to the plan if you want to do so. We bring you the Flatline every Sunday morning on this radio station. We're not syndicated. We don't try to sell ads. We just trust God to pay for it, and he always has. I've always believed if God's in it, God will pay for it, and he does. So this morning, without spending a lot of time doing other things, I want to expose you to a topic that fascinates many, many, many people. It's called Bible Prophecy. And during my 50 years of traveling to schools across the Southeast, I was constantly asked questions by students concerning the end times and what's going to happen in the end times today. There's a lot of speculation, a lot of interest in this subject as well as much confusion. Some try to tie current events in the Bible prophecy, and that's always speculation at best. Would you see what's happening in America is indeed the downfall of a client nation. What you see happening here is a downfall of a client nation, but not necessarily is it indicative of the return of Christ. So let's see if we can give you the proper perspective of those events and that will occur in the future in regards to Bible prophecy or what does the Bible say about this? And according to the Bible, the next prophetic event on God's calendar is called the exit resurrection, better known to you and I as the rapture of the church. This event was unknown to the Old Testament saints. They simply saw the return of Christ as the second advent, which we'll explain in a minute the difference. The rapture is taught by the Apostle Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4, 13 through 18. I'll read it to you. Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, the ones who have no hope. For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who've fallen asleep in him. According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who've fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a shout command of the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God and the dead in Christ will rise first. And then after that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words. So one, the rapture is used here in a technical theological sense for the resurrection of the royal family of God. Two, the promise of the rapture is sound in John 14, one through three, where Jesus said himself, if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself. Three, when the rapture is imminent, or excuse me, while the rapture is imminent, the second advent is not imminent. Before the second advent occurs, there are many other prophecies that must take place. Tribulation, judgment seat of Christ, et cetera. The rapture of the church is the next prophetical event to occur in history. Titus 2.13, waiting with keen anticipation for that blessed hope, the rapture, even the appearance of the glory of our great and God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. So the rapture of the church is part of what we call ultimate sanctification. Experiential sanctification is you being filled with the Holy Spirit, fulfilling the will of God for your life. But ultimate sanctification is different, Ephesians 5, 26, 27. So the royal family of God, you and I, are purified at the rapture, given our new bodies, resurrection bodies, and all of the human good, all the evil is burned up and the old sin nature is removed. Okay? That's going to be an amazing event. And it'll take place who knows when. Could happen today. 1 Corinthians 15, 51. Listen, I tell you a mystery. We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal now with immortality. So when the perishable has been clothed with imperishable and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true. Death has been swallowed up in victory. Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting? So if the rapture were to take place today, from what we understand, if you were driving your car, if you were flying in a plane, if you were riding in a boat, you would immediately go to be with the Lord in the air. You would just disappear. People may be running around looking for you, wondering where you went. especially those members of your family that are unbelievers. They won't know what happened to you. Why did you disappear? Where did you go? And there will be millions of unexplainable disappearances like that all across the world. There were a series of books written about that years ago, interesting read and, uh, left behind, I think was the name of the series, but interesting. the rapture is ready to take place and it could take place today it could take place tomorrow it could take place next year the main thing is to make sure you're not left behind once the rapture takes place then we have the big genuflex philippians 2 9-11 therefore god exalted him that's christ to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. That's going to be the big genuflex. And then we have the judgment seat of Christ. This is where you and I are evaluated for our divine good production. In 2 Corinthians 5.10, for we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ so that each of us may receive what is due for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. What's it going to be like at the judgment seat of Christ? And you will be there. If you're a believer, you'll be there. Here it's revealed in 1 Corinthians 3.11. No one can lay any foundation other than the one that's already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, or straw, then their work will be shown for what it is. because that day will bring it to light, and it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's production. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward, and if it's burned up, the builder will suffer loss, but yet he will be saved, even though only as one who escaped through the flames. This is your divine good production. Anything you did for God under the filling of the Holy Spirit is gold, silver, precious stones. Anything you did for God under the energy of the flesh is human good, unacceptable, wood, hay, and stubble. That's why you need to make sure when you're in church, when you're singing in the choir, when you're giving your money, when you're attending church, when you're doing anything in the name of the Lord that you are in fellowship 24-7. Can't afford to get out of fellowship at 8 o'clock in the morning by committing some sin on your way to work and stay out of fellowship until 8 o'clock at night when you finally confess it. That's 12 hours of human good production, and it'll be burned up. So the next predicted event after the rapture, After the rapture, after the big genuflex, after the judgment seat of Christ is called the tribulation. This period is a seven-year period between the rapture and the second advent, which will occur at the end of the tribulation. I'd like to quote a very famous pastor, Dr. David Jeremiah. Here's what he said. According to biblical prophecy, the tribulation is a seven-year period that will begin immediately following the rapture. During this time, evil was spread without restraint. The diseases, the natural disasters, the wars, the devastations that we see in our world today are but a taste of the atrocities to come. Toward this end, the Antichrist will sit at the center of the tribulation's evil as he personifies Satan himself. This is the time when the mark of the beast is made available six, six, six, but not you. You will not be there. You have already been resurrected by the rapture in revelation three 10, because you kept my admonition to endure steadfastly. I also will keep you from the hour of testing that is going to come on the whole world to test those who live on the earth. This period, a time in the Earth's history, is wretched and very painful. There are many great earthquakes in Revelation 6.12. There are stars falling out of the sky, Revelation 6.13. Complete mountains are moved, Revelation 6.14. Portions of the oceans are turned to blood, Revelation 8, 8 and 9. And portions of the water supply are polluted, Revelation 8, 10 through 11. This all takes place during the tribulation. This is when Satan tries to take over. and to proclaim that he is God himself, and demand that people worship him. 2 Thessalonians 2, 4, he opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, and as a result, he takes his seat in God's temple, displaying himself as God. This seven-year period of history, The period of Satan's control ends with the second advent in what is recorded in the Bible as the battle of Armageddon. Revelation 16, 16, now the spirits gathered the kings and the armies to the place that is called Armageddon in the Hebrews. And at the battle of Armageddon, the Lord Jesus Christ will make quick work of the enemy. Revelation 19, 11 through 16, I saw heaven open up and there came a white horse. The one riding it was called Faithful and True and with justice he judges and he goes to war. His eyes are like a fiery flame and there are many diadem crowns on his head. He has a name written that no one knows except himself. He's dressed in clothing dipped in blood and he is called the Word of God. John 1 says the same thing. The armies that are in heaven, that's you and I, dressed in white, clean, fine linen, will follow him on white horses. If you're a horse lover, there are horses in heaven. From his mouth extends a sharp sword so that with it he can strike the nations, king of the east, king of the west, king of the north, king of the south. And he will rule them with an iron rod and he stomps the wine presses of the furious wrath of God, the all-powerful. He has a name written on his clothing and on his thigh. That name is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Now, when that takes place, it's all over for Satan. He's defeated, captured, and locked up. Revelation 20, verses 1 through 3, Then I saw an angel descend from heaven, beholding in his hand a key to the abyss and a huge chain. And he seized the dragon. the ancient serpent, the devil, and Satan, and tied him up for 1,000 years and threw him into the abyss and locked and sealed it so that he could not deceive the nations until the 1,000 years were finished. And after these things, he would be released for a brief period of time. And then the Bible talks about this. The Lord Jesus Christ will then sit on his rightful throne and rule the earth for 1,000 years. It's called the millennial reign of Christ, his kingdom on earth. In Revelation 20, verse four, then I saw thrones and seated on them were those who had been given authority to judge. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of the testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. these had not worshiped the beast that's during the tribulation nor his image and they had refused to receive his mark on their forehead or hand and they came to life and they ruled and reigned with christ for one thousand years at the end of the thousand year period aka the devil will be released from prison revelation 20 verse 7 through 10. Now when the thousand years are finished, Satan will be released from his prison, and he will go out to deceive the nations at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, and bring them together for the battle. They will be as numerous as the grains of sand on the sea. They went up on the broad plains of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and beloved city of fire came down from heaven and devoured them completely. And the devil who deceived them was then thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet already are. And they will be tormented there day and night forever and forever. Now, this is the same place you'll go if you reject Christ as your Savior, not because God wants to send you there, but because you rejected God's forgiveness. God loves you. He always has loved you. He always will love you, and he prepared forgiveness for you. But if you reject that forgiveness and you seek to forgive yourself or justify yourself, you will wind up with Satan in the lake of fire. Now after the lake of fire, we have the great white throne of judgment. Revelation 20, verse 11 through 15. Then I saw a large white throne and the one who was seated on it. And the earth and the heavens fled away from his presence. And there was no place found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne. This is not you. These are unbelievers. The books were opened and another book was opened. That's the book of life. So the dead were judged by what was written in the books according to their production. The sea gave up the dead that was in it. Death and hell gave up the dead that were in them. And each one was judged according to his production. Then death and hell were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life, that person was thrown into the lake of fire. Now, how does your name get in the book of life? Well, when you are born, your name is placed in the book of life. And if you die without having received Christ as your Savior, your name is erased from the Book of Life. It's critical that you remember that. If you're born, your name is in the Lamb's Book of Life, but if you reject Christ as Savior and die, your name is erased from the Lamb's Book of Life. And now you are at the great white throne of judgment trying to defend yourself, trying to persuade God to allow you to come in based on your production, the book of works, the books of works. And the Bible says that all of our works are like filthy rags in God's eyes that are none that are righteous, no, not one, not anybody. So you can try to do whatever you want to do to get to heaven. But if you reject Christ as your savior, you will be at this great white throne of judgment. And when they call your name, it will not be recorded because you've died the first death. The second death is you being cast into the lake of fire. You got it? Please remember this. And then the Bible says the earth and the universe will be destroyed. In Revelation 21.1, then I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the earth had been destroyed or ceased to exist and the sea existed no more. So all of this that we know during this phase of the angelic conflict will be destroyed and wiped out. A new heaven and a new earth. In 2 Peter 3.10-13, but the day of the Lord will come like a thief when it comes. The heavens will disappear with a horrific noise, and the celestial bodies will melt away in a blaze, and the earth and every deed done on it will be laid bare. Since all these sayings are destined to melt away in this manner, what sort of people must you be, conducting your lives in holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening for the coming of the day of God? Because of this day, the heavens will be burned up and dissolve and the celestial bodies will melt away in a blaze. But according to his promise, we're waiting for the new heavens and the new earth in which righteousness truly resides. That is going to be your eternal home. It is where you will live forever in the new heaven and the new earth. Revelation 21, 22, now I saw no temple in the city because the Lord God was there, all powerful, and the lamb are in its temple. The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it because the glory of God lights it up. It is the lamp of the lamb, the Bible says. and nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their grandeur unto it, and its gates will never be closed during the day, and there will be no night. They will bring grandeur and the wealth of the nations into it, but nothing ritually unclean will ever enter into that. Nor anyone who does what is detestable or practices falsehood but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Remember, how does your name get in the Lamb's Book of Life? When you're born. How is your name removed from the Lamb's Book of Life? When you die without having received Christ as Savior. You've died the first death. In Revelation 22, one through five, then the angel showed me the river of water of life, water as clear as crystal pouring out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. flowing down the middle of the city's main streets. And on each side of the river is a tree of life producing 12 different kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month of the year. Its leaves are for the healing of the nations, and there will no longer be any curse, and the throne of God and the Lamb will be in that city. And his servants will worship him, and they will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. and night will be no more. They will not need the light of the lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will shine on them, and they will reign forever and forever. There you have it. That's the complete outline of future history. Did you get it? Did you understand it? So the next event to occur in time is the rapture of the church. And it could happen today. It could happen tomorrow. So if you are not a believer and you all of a sudden see people have disappeared and they're not there and you can't find them, go to your knees immediately and beg God for forgiveness. because the next seven years after the rapture occurs will be horrific, and you may be beheaded because of the name of Christ if you are not willing to receive the mark of the beast. you're not going to get it now christians are not tempted with this these are unbelievers in the tribulation period so let's pray that the rapture takes place today even so come quickly lord jesus the bible says you won't know it happen but it'll happen and in the twinkling of an eye you'll meet the lord in the air and be with the other saints i can't imagine what that's going to be like There you are driving down the road headed to work. There you are driving down the road headed to church. There you are sitting at home reading your book. And the next thing you know, you're face to face with the Lord Jesus Christ. The rapture of the church. and you're waiting the judgment seat of Christ, the evaluation of your production, whether it was gold, silver, precious stones, or whether it was wood, hay, and stubble. Pray that you understand the Christian life, that you understand rebound, that you understand the filling of the Holy Spirit, that you understand the faith, rest, drill, These are critical for you in divine good production so that you will hear, well done, my good and my faithful servant. You don't want to hear, have a seat, like in the doctor's office, we'll get to you in a couple of hours. You want to hear, well done, my good and faithful servant. So the rapture or the exit resurrection is the next prophetic event that we are waiting on. Once that takes place, you will leave. If you're a Christian, you won't be here during the tribulation. Don't worry about it. The people that will be here have got enough to worry about on their own. You will be gone. You will be with the Lord when the rapture takes place. Remember 1 Corinthians 15, 51. We will not all sleep, but we will be changed in a flash and the twinkling of an eye. So the judgment seat of Christ takes place. We're evaluated, and remember this part about it. In the judgment seat of Christ, wood, hay, and stubble, gold, silver, and precious stones, if you don't learn how to be filled with the Holy Spirit, if you don't learn the difference between human good and divine good, then everything you do in the name of God will be destroyed at the judgment seat of Christ as wood, hay, and stubble, but you will be saved. The Bible says you will be saved, you will be in heaven, you will have eternal life, but you will be minus rewards. That's why it's critical for you to understand how to execute the Christian life. It's critical for you to understand what those 10 problem-solving devices are. Because without understanding these basic biblical doctrines, you will never be able to fulfill the plan of God for your life. You'll never be able to experience the will of God for your life until you learn how to execute the Christian life, and that is, in basic, the summary of the flotline of your soul. Rebound, the filling of the Holy Spirit, the faith rest drill, orienting to grace, orienting to the word of God, having a personal sense of destiny, having virtue love with personal love for God as your motivation, and then personal love for others as your function, manufacturing the happiness of god john 15 11 and then being occupied with christ all this is in the future for you and that's why it's critical you understand these things you will not be here for the tribulation but it's a horrible time of earthquakes mountains move stars falling out of the skies oceans turn to blood water supplies polluted And Satan proclaiming himself as God, demanding that people receive the mark of the beast or the 666. In other words, if they want to have any type of purchasing power, if you want to be able to order anything off Amazon, you got to have that 666. I'm being facetious, but you understand what I mean. This is his mark. Those who live in the tribulation will be required to take it. But it is ended with the battle of Armageddon. He is captured and cast into the bottomless pit for 1,000 years. And the Lord will sit on his throne, rightful throne of David, for 1,000 years. And you and I will be here with him, ruling and reigning with him throughout eternity. I hope this has made sense to you. It's just been a quick rundown, like throwing a rock across a flat pond and making it skip. I didn't go into detail. I just gave you the highlight of the events. This should excite you. This should encourage you. This should help you understand what you face in the future. and why it's critical that you get with the program. You can't just listen to me to be some inspirational speaker before you go to church. You've got to get to a well-qualified pastor and begin to understand the mechanics of the Christian life. So please consider that. I'm not a Christian entertainer. I'm a challenger. I'm a recruiter. I'm a motivator. What are you going to do with what you're hearing and what you're learning? When are you going to take this seriously? That's my question. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Join Mike Gallagher as he pulls back the curtain on a week full of riveting discussions and unexpected revelations. From the sartorial switch to suits and ties, prompted by a pivotal event covering Charlie Kirk, to the complexities of American sports gambling controversies, Gallagher leaves no stone unturned. Delve into Gallagher’s candid thoughts on today’s cultural clashes, and find out what truly happens behind the scenes of his radio and TV broadcast adventures.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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I wish you could see the things that take place off the show, away from the show. We ought to have our own reality version of the Mike Gallagher Show and Team Gallagher. Poor Tracy right now is hanging ties in my office because I went on a tie-buying spree last night on Amazon. I haven't had to wear a suit and tie for a long time. But now I'm back to wearing suits and ties every day on Salem News Channel. And look, I'll give you a little behind the scenes intel. This stemmed from the night that we covered Charlie Kirk's assassination. And I came flying in here. It was all last minute. We slapped everything together. We went into like one in the morning broadcasting because it was such a seismic event for Salem media and for our world and certainly the country at large. that they actually killed this, you know, immensely popular, powerful influencer. And so I spent hours on the air in the Salem News Channel studios, and I got a text from one of the bosses because I didn't have a tie on. And I haven't typically worn a tie since Salem News Channel began. You know, I'm a radio guy, and then we added Salem News Channel as another platform But I like the open collar look. I've always been an open collar guy since Salem News Channel was born. Now, admittedly, back when I was a Fox News Channel contributor, I always wore a suit and tie. So the night that we were doing Charlie Kirk, one of the bosses texts me, you should have a tie on. Now, look, this is a reminder, we all have bosses. We all report to people, and I'm like, well, okay. You want me to put a tie on? Well, of course, I didn't have any ties in the building because I always have a bunch of dress shirts and suit coats. So Roger P. Shulman, his studio and office is down the hall from mine, and we raided his office, and he had a bunch of ties hanging on the wall, and I slapped on one of his ties, and I kind of liked it. I like the way it looks. So I guess now I'm a suit and tie guy every day. And I hope you like it. I don't know. You can give me your feedback. Not a big deal. I mean, it's not going to change the world here. But, you know, it's Friday. I'm in a mood. I'm getting ready to head to Israel. We're going to be over in Jerusalem next week. I'm thinking a lot about good versus evil today. I'm thinking about our ICE officers under assault from people like J.B. Pritzker. I'm thinking about the meltdown over the ballroom at the White House, and I'm thinking a lot about this sports gambling controversy, which is what I want to bring to you. here in just a moment. But hey, give me your feedback. Let me know what you think about the new suit and tie mic every day on Salem News Channel. And of course, check it out, snc.tv. We're streaming on tons of platforms now. You can get the app. You can make sure you download Salem News Channel from any of the places where you get your apps. And we're also over the top and we're live on Samsung TV Plus 1177 and Pluto and Roku and Apple TV. I watch it on Apple TV. I'm an Apple TV guy, and now I'm having the guys come back for the third time to fix the big screen TV I had installed in my home this week. It's still not right. They get me a new stand. It's a whole thing. I'm not going to bore you with that. But anyway, wherever you watch TV, I hope you appreciate the Salem News Channel because, look, we try to be everywhere. We're on hundreds of radio stations around the country, which, of course, we so deeply appreciate. We're digital. We've got our podcast every day, the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast, our exclusive conversations with newsmakers and newsbreakers that get real in-depth, gives us the— The benefit of going more in-depth with people that fascinate me, that's available as well. And, of course, Salem News Channel. For all things Team Gallagher, go to MikeOnline.com. MikeOnline.com, that's a good place for you to start. All right, so here's the issue of the hour. And as is always the case, when I'm flummoxed, I turn to you. I'm going to give you my initial, I'm not a gambler. The closest I come is if I go to Las Vegas once every five years and I play a little bit of the slot machines. I mean, I'm a baby. I'm a piker. I'm nothing, okay? I'm certainly not a high roller. I don't like blackjack because every time I play blackjack, I get yelled at. I play blackjack because I don't play by the book. I always win at blackjack, but I tick off everybody at the table because I take a hit when I shouldn't take a hit. When I take the hit, I almost always hit 21, and it just ticks off everybody at the table, and it's uncomfortable, and it's unpleasant. Forget it. I'm going to sit at a slot machine once in a while, and I'll blow $50 or $100 on a slot machine. That's the extent of my gambling expertise. Okay? Yesterday, the Justice Department announced that they arrested some 30 people in illegal gambling, particularly sports gambling. One of those that was arrested, the Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier, allegedly used inside information to set up fraudulent bets online. In 2023, for example, he's accused of letting gamblers know he was going to fake an injury and leave the game early so they could make hundreds of thousands of dollars, and then some of that money allegedly wound up in his pocket. Here's the debate. As somebody who is not into that world of gambling, thanks to a Supreme Court decision in 2018, there has been a widespread legalization of sports gambling. And so that's why a lot of my colleagues are now saying, well, nobody should be surprised. We told you this was coming. And legitimizing gambling in America leads to this kind of illegal behavior. Now, I'm going to give you my reaction first, and then I want yours. Here's my reaction first. All right, 30 people did terrible things. Prosecute them. Hold them accountable for their actions. Should that mean that gambling should go underground again? Should that mean that people aren't allowed to play a lottery or bet on a game? You could argue that gambling is something that is an unhealthy addiction. That's like saying if you have a drink, a glass of wine on Friday night, you're an alcoholic. Aren't there plenty of people who gamble responsibly? I've got a real problem with the Puritans in America who want to tell other people how to live their life. Maybe I've got a libertarian streak. But this narrative and my friend Hugh Hewitt, I hate to pick on, this is like pick on Hugh week. Because Hugh writes a big column over at FoxNews.com. Here we go. This is what happens when you legalize gambling. You can't legitimize gambling or we're going to have these kinds of things. Well, what kinds of things really are we talking about? 30 people? Great. Prosecute them. If they're guilty, convict them. But in a nation of 370 million people? You want to throw the baby out with the bathwater? I don't think so. At least that's my initial reaction. But as usual, I turn it over to you. 800-655-MIKE. Call or text or join us any way you can here in the Relief Factor studios for this Friday, October 24th, 2025. 800-655-6453. I understand with these 30 people arrested, the mafia is involved. I didn't even know that was still a thing. The Genovese crime family, the Bananos, I guess they're still around. I didn't know that. I thought they kind of went by the wayside. So be it. But I think we better guard against what could be an overreaction to these arrests yesterday as announced by the Justice Department. Are you a live and let live kind of person when it comes to an issue like gambling like I am? Or do you think we should crack down and... make gambling, particularly sports gambling, verboten.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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I hope you know I never, ever, ever... Stop losing a sense of appreciation for what I get to do every day with you here on the Mike Gallagher Show. I hope you never think I don't appreciate you deeply. Sometimes I have to remind myself when somebody calls the show to argue with me that that person, whether they like it or not, you're supporting me too. And you're supporting this team. And you're supporting our company. And you're supporting our advertisers. And I just, I never, ever want to lose sight of that. I mean, I walk into the studio today and I look up at the text line, which I often do. Every talk show host in America ought to use a text line. People love to text. I text my kids. My kids text me. We all enjoy texting. And I walk in to a text from Rockwell City, Iowa. Hello, sir. Thank you for the smile on my face and the confidence in my heart, Mike Gallagher. Keep the faith and be blessed. Actually, it's George from Sherwood, Iowa. So George in Sherwood, Iowa, thank you for putting a smile on my face and reminding me how blessed I am to be able to do this for a living. that I can in any way, shape, or form make a difference in anybody's life, it just changes everything. How much do you love President Trump having a hard time understanding a foreign accent? I swear, Donald Trump and I are doppelgangers. We are both doppelgangers. He likes Big Macs, I like Big Macs. He likes Diet Coke. I like Diet Coke. He likes Broadway musicals. I like Broadway musicals. And he likes the classics. He loves Les Mis and Phantom of the Opera. That was kind of when I started loving theater. And like me, President Trump has a hard time understanding accents. It's Friday. We made it through another week. I have to start with sharing this hysterical exchange he had yesterday in the White House.
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Yesterday, there was a vote at the Gnesset on annexing the West Bank. Do you see it as a challenge to your peace efforts?
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Could you say that louder, please?
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Yes, yesterday there was a vote at the Knesset in Israel on annexing the West Bank. Do you see it as a challenge to your peace efforts?
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Will you answer that, please? Because I cannot understand a word she's saying. Where are you from? Where are you from? You're from France, beautiful accent, but we can't understand what you're saying.
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She said a vote at the Knesset on the West Bank.
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The West Bank? Yes. Don't worry about the West Bank. Israel's not going to do anything with the West Bank, okay? Don't worry about it. Is that your question? They're not going to do anything with the West Bank. Don't worry about it.
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Is Pam Bondi translating? That's Pam Bondi whispering in his ear. She's asking about the West Bank. He can't understand a word. I can't understand a word you're saying. You have a beautiful accent. I can't make a word. This is me. Peg and Joey, my friends, the Hudson's, they have Downton Abbey on a loop, and they keep urging me to watch Downton Abbey. I'm trying to watch Downton Abbey, and I can't understand a word they're saying. I don't know what the heck they're talking about. I guess they're downstairs, upstairs. The witch people are upstairs and the maids and the butlers are downstairs. But they're all talking. I don't understand them. The dialect is too thick. But I can understand American accents. There's nobody more waspish and American than Anderson Cooper over on CNN. I swear to you. This meltdown over the new ballroom at the White House is one of the most hysterical things I have ever witnessed in my life. I can guarantee you, you could give a rat's rear end about a ballroom being built at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And they're acting like they've had their hearts and lungs ripped out of their bodies. Here's Anderson Cooper last night on CNN.
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It just took about three days from start to finish to demolish a structure that first went up in 1902 under President Theodore Roosevelt and had been added to and refurbished several times over the last almost century and a quarter since. These are photos taken earlier today from a different angle. The East Wing was home to America's first ladies. Betty Ford, that's her at her desk. She once famously said, if the West Wing is the mind of the nation, then the East Wing is the heart. Well, it has been ripped out.
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It has been ripped out. The heart of the nation just got ripped out by the tyrant Donald Trump. Now, Anderson Cooper is a very serious man, right? A very serious guy. He is dutifully reporting that the East Wing has been demolished to make way for Trump's big, beautiful ballroom. Check out Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer is equally apoplectic about the East Wing being demolished.
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Donald Trump doesn't want America to see. This is the picture Donald Trump told his people to hide from the American people. And do you know what the picture represents? It's not just the desecration of the White House. It shows that Donald Trump is not focused on fixing health care, but rather on vanity projects like this one that don't do anything to benefit the American people. They only benefit Trump and his ego.
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This guy's got some audacity. He doesn't want to pay the military. This guy's party and the Schumer shutdown has led to children of veterans, apparently, who are set to see the SNAP benefits expire going hungry. And that's what he's mad about? Building the ballroom? Are you kidding me? Here was David Urban last night, a little bit of common sense, a little voice of reason in an otherwise hysterical meltdown on CNN over the new ballroom and the demolition of the heart of America, the East Wing.
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The White House has been renovated numerous times. I mean, going back to Tim Natale, the historian here will tell us, but there was no Oval Office for a long time. There was no West Wing. It was added. The East Wing was added to the executive mansion. There were major, major pieces that were added, parts added. Major renovations done when David Axelrod was there, the $300 million that our network reported on. Now, that was underground. It was plumbing. But it went on for years. When President Truman was president, he actually moved out of the White House, moved across to Blair House for the entire second term of his presidency while they gutted the place. So... It is a living building. It'll continue to survive. It's not the world. The republic's not going to collapse. And I suspect that presidents in the future will greatly enjoy and benefit from having a much expanded space.
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Here's Anderson Cooper looking at David Urban like he's just constipated. Anderson's got a constipated look on his face because he can't believe that the heart of America, the East Wing, has been ripped out of the building. I used to watch that TV show all the time years ago on NBC, The East Wing. Oh, I loved The East Wing. That was such a dramatic. Remember that? Martin Sheen and President Josiah Bartlett? The East Wing. Da-da-da-da-da. The East Wing. Oh, my gosh. Here's a text message. Look, you've got to stop with the compliments on the text line. This is very funny, though. New Jersey. Mike, I was a pharmacy tech for a while. An Indian pharmacist was training me. I couldn't figure out what he was saying to me the whole day long. I'm telling you, I cannot understand accents. I'm like Trump. I'm telling you. Give me a Diet Coke, please, and a Big Mac. And here's Arkansas. Mike, you've got an awesome show. Your presentation is always spot on. Thank you, Mike. God bless you, your family and staff. South Carolina, I've listened to you for 25 years. I don't know what my day would be like without you. You've got to stop with the compliments. Give me a big head. I want some hate mail. Send me some hate mail. I'll read your hate texts. 800-655-MIKE. Come on, balance me out a little bit here. There's too many nice text messages pouring in on the MyPillow text line. So go ahead and send me some hateful texts, please. 800-655-6453. And I'll read every one of them. I want you to humble me. I want you to bring me back down to earth. Look, I'm pretty cocky these days. I lost 53 pounds on the PhD weight loss program. How can I not be pretty full of myself? Now, I didn't really do it myself. I had the whole team from Dr. Ashley Lucas on down helping me. PhD is the only program that guarantees your success. It's simple. You're going to know when to eat, what to eat, what not to eat. I lost 53 pounds, and I've kept it off. And I've got a special offer for you in the month of October. This is the program, incidentally, where you can use their food, use your own food, or use a combination of both. But when you call today and you get on the program, they're going to cover the cost of your food during the program. You'll also have the consultation fee waived. You'll get two extra weeks free, and you'll get Dr. Ashley's new book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. What's not to love? You're never going to be hungry. This is science-based, data-driven. You're not going to get a shot in the belly for the rest of your life. Now, look, this offer, the two free weeks and the food included, only good during the month of October. So call today. Mention the code NEWYEAR. When you call Ph.D. Weight Loss, you've got to use the code NEWYEAR. Here's the number, 864-644-1900. 864-644-1900. Or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com. MyPhDWeightLoss.com. All right, here they come. Here comes the hate texts. South Carolina, Mike, you suck. All in caps. Keep them coming. That's it. Here's Connecticut. The show you are referring to is the West Wing, not the East Wing, you moron. Hey, Connecticut, that was part of the joke. Who's really the moron now? Every single day, it's a joy to remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by MyPillow. As you know, our friend Mike Lindell, big legal victory last week. He's been in a ton of hot water, as you know, because he believes in election integrity. Of course, due to his friendship with President Trump. Well, last week, there was a $5 million... judgment against Mike that was overturned by the courts. Good news for MyPillow. So you keep praying for MyPillow, and you keep supporting this great American company. The premium MyPillow, limited time, great price, $18.98. If you go to MyPillow.com, this pillow is a godsend. Look, I bring the MyPillow products with me when I'm on the road. Here at the hotel in Washington State, I got the MySlippers with me. Those unbelievable slippers because I pat around in the hotel room. I don't know what's on that rug. I bring the MyPillow with me. I roll it up into the suitcase. I've even got my MyPillow loungewear. Tons of great products. If you haven't been to the site in a while, go check it out. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. You're going to save big. The slippers, the doggy beds, and the Giza dream sheets. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Like we love to sing.
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Hillary criticizing someone for denigrating the White House. I mean, at least when Trump wanted the floor stained, he got a professional. And it's true, Trump is building a ballroom. But for Hillary's husband, every room was a ballroom.
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You know what I'm saying, young lady? In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Yeah, Hillary weighed in on the ballroom and... Greg Gutfeld does make a pretty good point. Hillary might want to sit this one out, considering some of the stuff, the antics that took place in the Clinton White House. Yes, I know. I'm sorry. It's the Biltmore House. The Biltmore Estate. You know, Vanderbilt, Biltmore. But there is apparently a Vanderbilt mansion, Tracy said, somewhere in Hudson Valley, I think. Hudson Valley, New York. But, yeah, the estate in Asheville where I've been to see the Christmas decorations is the Biltmore estate. But the Vanderbilts, boy, they had some money. They had some big bucks. Portions of our show brought to you by the original Superfood. 25 years ago, naturopathic Dr. Dennis Black invented Texas Superfood. Texas Superfood is the original Superfood. 55 vine-ripened fruits and vegetables, probiotics and enzymes. You can build your body's defense from the inside out with this great, great product I take every day. Look, busy schedule, travel, run all over the place. We probably are not getting enough fruits and vegetables in our system like we need to. That's what Texas Superfood was made for. Use the discount code MikeG. I'm going to get you 35% off your first order. Now, I love the fact that there are 55 vine-ripened fruits and vegetables within Texas Superfood, but I also appreciate the probiotics and enzymes because you want to build your immune system. You want to boost it. You want to make sure that you're feeling your best and you're ready to take on anything that comes your way. Visit TexasSuperfood.com. Enter the promo code MikeG. Again, 35% off. There's nothing quite as important as a strong and powerful immune system. And guess what? You'll get it done with Texas Superfood. TexasSuperfood.com. Discount code MikeG. I'm glad that Malcolm is going to bring this up in Detroit. Incidentally, in the spirit of the hate text messages on the MyPillow text line, Mike, your show is so terrible, I have to tune in for every minute of every single day just to feel how terrible you're going to be next. Just kidding, obviously. Keep fighting the good fight. Jonathan from Charlotte. Thank you, Jonathan, very much. And I appreciate the MyPillow text line. Great instant feedback. MyPillow.com. Like, for example, this text from Rhode Island. There's a Vanderbilt mention, too. A Vanderbilt mention here in Newport, Rhode Island. Thank you, Rhode Island. Make it a MyPillow Friday. If you got paid today, you want to treat yourself a little bit, how about a pair of those MySlippers? Most comfortable slippers you'll ever put on your feet. $39.98 with promo code MikeG. The Giza Dream Sheets, 50% off. The pillow that started it all. And best news of all, the bath towels are back. They're normally $69.98. When you enter the promo code MikeG, you'll get them for just $39.98. And they're towels that are thirsty. They actually work. They absorb the water. They're smooth. They're durable. And they absorb the water. MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. Click on that box. And then enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Promo code MikeG. Malcolm's in Detroit. Hey, Malcolm, thanks for your patience. How are you today, sir?
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Thank you for asking. I'm well. God bless to you. God bless you. Happy Friday.
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Thank you. Happy Friday to you as well. What's up?
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My only question, I was curious if you saw Steve Bannon's comments on Trump's third term. So just curious your thoughts.
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I have, and it keeps coming up for some reason. I mean, I like Steve, and I listen to the War Room podcast or see it every chance I get. I don't understand it. Do you? Why does he continue with this weird nonsense about a Trump third term?
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Okay, so... I have one theory, one hypothesis is – because I didn't – I don't know, obviously, Steve Bannon or President Trump, but I thought there was a contentious relationship between them. So I think my theory, my hypothesis is Steve Bannon is trying to get this out there to drum up more – You know, like fearmonger, right? To get the next wave of whatever going.
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Well, no, I mean, but let me, well, look, that makes a little bit of sense because it doesn't help Trump. There's nothing helpful about somebody running around saying that Trump's planning to figure out a way to subvert the Constitution and come up with a third term. So there's nothing helpful or productive about that whatsoever. But... Bannon is a huge Trump supporter. He doesn't want to hurt Trump in any way, shape, or form. He's a smart guy. Maybe he's playing like 3-D chess, Malcolm, and he thinks somehow this, I don't know, thinks this helps him somehow?
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I don't get it. Me neither. That's why I wanted to come with the question.
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Well, I'll ask him. Look, I've known Steve a little bit off and on. Not well, but I kind of know him a little bit, and I certainly know he knows of me. We don't know each other. I wouldn't call us friends, but I'd like to find out what that's all about because it's a mystery to me. And every time it comes up, I kind of cringe because I know he's brought it up on a few occasions, and I don't get it. So it makes zero sense to me whatsoever, other than you first think about maybe trolling. Maybe it's just a troll, and he wants to get people fired up. 21 before the hour. Look, I want you to meet the mayor of Boca Raton, Florida. Why? Because he's been writing some columns, including over at Town Hall, about what it takes to be a mayor of a city like New York and why he's sounding the alarm about Zoran Mamdani. You'll meet Mayor Scott Singer from Boca Raton next here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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The old folks say that you gotta end your day by ten.
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Anti-Semitism, radical Islam, prophecy. It all collides in The Dragon's Prophecy. Watch it now or buy the DVD at SalemNow.com. Mike Gallagher.
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I want to stay with us a little bit as we continue here this Friday episode of The Mike Gallagher Show. Good to have you here. I'm just fascinated by how so-called mainstream people continually assault law enforcement with not only the physical violence that we're witnessing with all these anti-ICE protests, but people like Pritzker, people like Lori Lightfoot, people who are disgusted with these ICE officers who are just doing their job. These are law enforcement. And I guess when I see a Democrat who I know votes against my wishes most of the time sound normal, I'm grateful. I'm thankful. It's like manna from heaven. This John Fetterman guy, this senator from Pennsylvania just continues to astound. Let me give you Fetterman yesterday, also on Fox News. pointing out how insane it is to enforce federal immigration law. This is what it boils down to. Like we pointed out yesterday with Byron York, who was talking about what's been happening with the ICE agents. Look, all they're doing, all they're doing is enforcing immigration law. Period. End of sentence. Check out what Fetterman said yesterday on Fox. This is what I'm saying.
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I will never understand why it's controversial to round up and deport all of the criminals here in our nation right now. And I'm proud to just agree that we need to secure our border. I don't know why these other kinds of things. And if they want to run me out of the party for these kind of abuse, I mean, that's really there. It's up to them.
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I mean, there's the end of the segment music is playing on Sean Hannity's show, and Fetterman just wants to sound off and say, why is it controversial to enforce the law? Do you know that the big Canal Street brouhaha in New York City the other day? They did get nine violent, dangerous, criminal illegals. Sex traffickers, drug traffickers. People who are assaulting other people. And let's be real here. They want to put these ICE officers' lives in danger. And I am terrified that we're going to wake up one day and hear the news that some ICE law enforcement officer has been killed. Here was Caroline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, addressing that very point yesterday.
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This is actively putting the lives of our ICE agents at risk. We've seen media outlets, in fact, in this room also write stories about ICE tracker apps that Democrats and other left-wing activists have created to track the location of ICE agents on the ground in our communities. Again, I've said this repeatedly, and I will continue to say it. The men and women of ICE are outstanding people. I wish a Democrat on Capitol Hill would actually have the courage or the guts to stand up to their party and sit down with some of these men and women who are doing this incredibly difficult job of enforcing our federal immigration laws.
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And finally, let me give you our colleague, Salem's own Scott Jennings, who is like a Christian facing the lions every night on CNN. Here's what he had to say last night on CNN about the doxing of these ICE officers.
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Masks should be banned in law enforcement. What kind of world can we have where cops come into your door and they're masked? Scott?
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Counterpoint, the reason they're wearing masks, which, by the way, their director, Todd Lyons, he doesn't want them to have to wear masks. He's against the masks. The reason they're wearing them is because you have a dedicated group of people out there, and some of them, unfortunately, are Democrat political officials. who are doxing them and their families and putting them in harm's way. They face a thousand percent increase in violent attacks this year. These people are in harm's way every day and they are protecting themselves.
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That's it. A period. I mean, they shouldn't have to wear masks. As usual, Scott makes a brilliant point. Even the ICE agency director doesn't want. You know what I think the problem is, incidentally, calling them ICE agents. That's why I always say officers. And I don't know if that's even the technically correct term, but it's literally correct. They are law enforcement. And I think people hear agents and they think there's some kind of a subcategory of law enforcement. I don't know.
John Rush, Andy Peth, and Richard Rush dive into the NFL’s wildest week — dissecting Jekyll-and-Hyde teams, quarterback controversies, and whether the Patriots might actually be “for real.” Then, things turn hilariously off-the-rails as the guys list their favorite binge-worthy shows and movie series: South Park’s “ManBearPig,” Harry Potter, Tulsa King, Friday Night Lights, The Sopranos, Star Trek, The Dark Knight, Game of Thrones, Seinfeld, Lord of the Rings, and more.
Mix in Broncos talk, some old-school Westerns, and Al Smith dropping estate-planning wisdom, and you’ve got a full-throttle Friday episode that proves Rush to Reason is where common sense meets couch-potato brilliance.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes. With your host, John Rush. My advice to you is to do what your parents did. Get a job, sir. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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All right, hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and Richard, are you with us now? That I am. Okay, well, are you guys ready?
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Yeah, let's do a little NFL. All right, hit it. Okay, Richard, we start with not an exciting game. The Dolphins are on the road at the Falcons, who are favored by 7.5. Miami has shown they can play against really bad teams. Can they compete against an average one?
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Uh... I don't know, Andy. Real quick, I feel like this week is going to be the battle of which team can we pick an upset because there's lots of favorites that play here this week, Andy.
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There really are. Lots of big spreads. Well, let me ask you this, Richard, before we even get into the rest of the games. Every year you have a few Jekyll and Hyde teams, right? When's the last year you've seen this many Jekyll and Hyde teams?
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Yeah, it's been a while. And honestly, the parent, well, Jekyll and Hyde teams, Andy, and then just the parody, it feels like this year is so much greater than in years past. Right. And I know we kind of talked about it a little bit, you know, last or a few weeks ago, just with kind of how everything's set up this year, but it really has set the stage. If this maintains Andy to be really phenomenal for the, the remainder of the season. And like you say, I mean, you're going to have, Some upsets and some things like that. But when these teams, these top teams play together, I think it'll be fun. But some of these games, Andy, it's just, especially this week, like there's like three or four good games and the rest are just kind of stinkers, at least on the surface.
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Yeah, I mean, exactly. I'm going to pick the Falcons. Are you?
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The Dolphins just seem so bad, Andy. Believe it or not, Andy, I don't think from everything I've read, I actually don't even think they're going to fire their coach and stuff in the middle of the season. I think they're going to just kind of let it go, see how it goes. He'll be fired at the end of the season. He likely goes back to San Francisco, rehabs with... Shanahan, and then the Dolphins are, man, what do you do there? Because you've got to get rid of Tua's contract. So, yeah, at this point in time, the only thing I think for the Dolphins, Andy, is can they salvage Tua? Because it's a similar situation to Rush. They owe him a lot of money moving forward, and a lot of it's guaranteed.
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Yeah, I agree. I think that's going to be the question for them. Can they salvage Tua going forward? We'll talk about it more. Next game, the Jets. Oh my gosh, worst team in the league. They're in the road at the Bengals. Bengals actually favored by six and a half. Is Justin Fields finished as an NFL starter?
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Ugh. Yeah, he should be, Andy, because to me, he's the same player I thought he was when he was coming out, right, Andy? Yeah. Because I think he was this really talented runner. Could he make some deep throws, things like that? Yeah, but I just don't know if he sees the field well enough to be an NFL starter. Right. And that's probably my biggest concern with him. And maybe the bigger story here, Andy, is thinking old man Joe Flacco, you know, getting traded from the Browns to the Bengals. Although, Andy, I don't know if he maintains throughout the season. I know people are talking about, well, if Cincy can go on a run here, they may get Joe Burrow back before the – I don't know if I'm ready to go there yet. No, they're not talented enough. Don't get me wrong. It was a fun game against the Steelers last week, but –
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Yeah, I think that, once again, that was the Jekyll and Hyde week, okay? They came up, they beat the Steelers, but let's face it, since he's not that good, Flacco's going to win this week because it's the Jets.
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Yeah, and you're correct, Andy. Well, the question, Andy, is does Tyrod play the full game? Because I think that he was hurt and injured, and I don't know. I'm going to go with the Bengals here, Andy, just because I think that they would. But it also wouldn't surprise me if the Jets did decide to bench Justin Fields, which I think the only reason they haven't It's because Tyrod is, again, sort of up in the air at this point in time, but that's about it.
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It'll be interesting to see. Okay, next game, the Cleveland Browns are on the road at the Patriots. Patriots, once again, another team favored by a touchdown, seven. If the Patriots go six and two, when do we start taking them seriously? Is this all because they're playing patsies?
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A lot of it's because they're playing passes, Andy, but I think they're coming into it a little bit. I mean, they are playing well. And, Andy, let's be honest. Tennessee should have never fired Mike Frabel, as evidenced by them firing Brian Callahan, you know, 18 months into his gig, essentially. Good point. You know, they shouldn't have... They shouldn't have. I mean, Mike Rabel's a good coach. Now, does he have some deficiencies and some things like that? Yeah, but he never really had the guy in Tennessee. I mean, Andy, for crying out loud, Mike Rabel, I think he went to an AFC championship game with Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry, if I'm not mistaken.
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Well, Richard, let me ask you this. Doesn't it drive you nuts when teams fire a coach who has no talent on the team? I mean, no, every team has talent, but you know what I mean, where they are clearly in the lower quarter of talent and they lose a lot of games and they get fired for it. That's never made sense to me. No, you're, you're correct.
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And it doesn't hear Andy. And so I think part of it with, I'll be honest with the Patriots is I think they got a good coach. I think Drake may is something. Do I think that he's a top 15 or do a top 10 quarterback yet? And probably not. But if he continues this trajectory, honestly, they're only going to keep getting better. So yeah. Andy, do I think the Patriots are real? Yes. However, my only concern, I don't think it happens this week. I'm going to take the Patriots, but they are a young team, which is good and bad, right?
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They're not a young team. They, I'm with you. They sometimes get ahead of themselves. But Buffalo's ultimately going to come out of the AFC East just because, obviously, the Dolphins and the Jets are terrible. But I could argue that the Patriots, I think, are going to fight for one of those last playoff spots.
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Well, good for them. I hope they do it. And we'll both take the Patsies to beat another Patsy. Okay, next up, the Giants, who are playing some pretty tough football. They are on the road at the Eagles. Eagles favored by 7.5. After a legendary collapse, do the Giants just fall apart or do they pick it up?
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Oh, Andy, I semi-struggled with this one, and I think this will be one of the only ones we differ in, mainly because I want you and I to differ on a few games here. And so it'll be this one. And I'll give my reasoning. I actually have valid reasoning, which is I was impressed by the Giants last week, although I think the Broncos gifted them a lot of what happened. I don't think Jackson Dart played tremendously well. and I think that the Broncos actually held in check Skadaboo and some of the other stuff there.
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Honestly, Richard, really quick, Richard. I thought it was a poorly played game by both teams. I think both teams played badly.
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They did, and honestly, Andy, the Broncos, well, we'll talk about that later. They tend to play to the level of their competition, which is a sign of it. We'll talk about that. But, yeah, Andy, I think the Giants, they don't have the offensive weapons. However, this is a divisional game. Second time they've played the Eagles in three weeks. and obviously both teams coming up, well, Eagles coming off a good win, Giants coming off of a terrible loss. I'm going to go, just because they're young, Andy, I'm going to go with the Giants here, and because you and I have to differ on a few of these. Do I believe that in my heart of hearts? No, but, you know, sometimes you and I got to be different.
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Well, you know, I'm going to take the Eagles, but I totally agree with you. The Giants, if there is a true Jekyll and Hyde team this year, it's them. I mean, they can beat anyone. They can literally lose to anyone. They can lose to a high school team. I mean, this team, you have no idea who's going to show up. And so we don't know. I'll take the Eagles. Next game, the Bills, who I think are overrated. Okay, I think they're seriously. I don't think they're going to the Super Bowl. They're favored by seven and a half against the Panthers. Let me ask you this. Are the Bills a paper tiger? Outside of Josh Allen, is there anything special about this team? Andy, the Bills are, I feel like, a classic.
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And there's nothing against them because I think the Chiefs, while they're coming around, is you've got to – well, I just think the Bills have been built poorly by their GM. Agreed. And not to say you can't do it, but they've sort of drafted poorly. They haven't really picked up on guys that they should have. They've gotten into bad contracts, things like that. And so, Andy, yeah, I mean – I'm not scared of the Bills. Last year, I was actually more scared of the Bills, obviously, than the Broncos. But if I was an AFC team, and honestly, we'll talk about it. If you're the Chiefs, you've got to be licking your chops because while you're having a down year... Everyone, again, the parody that we talked about is just rampant throughout the league. And so, obviously, I'm going to, especially Bryce Young being out, I think Andy Dalton's going to play for the Panthers. I think the Bills should win. They have to. But, Andy, the Bills feel like a team. They feel like the Cowboys to me. You're going to have to beat the Bills 41-34, but I think you have the odds to do that just because their defense is so poor and there's just nothing else around Josh Allen.
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Yeah, honestly, I look at the Chiefs, Broncos, and Colts, and I think the Bills have no chance at the Super Bowl. Any of those three teams blows them out in the playoffs. That's what I think. Okay, next game, the Bears are on the road at the Ravens. Ravens are favored by 6.5. Now, when was the last time a 1-5 team was a touchdown favorite over a 4-2 team?
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It's been a while, Andy. Are you kidding me? I guess the bookmakers have a lot of confidence in Lamar Jackson because that's the only reason for it, and I think he plays Andy. But my question for you is, even if Lamar does come back, is he the same player before injury, after injury, whatever it would be, is he the same player this year as he has been the past few years?
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Well, it just depends on how much rust. I mean, look, I'm going to tell you right now, I'm picking the upset. Okay, I'm picking the Bears because I think the Ravens' defense sucks. I don't think the Ravens are a threat to anybody right now. They're bad.
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And that's the key, Andy, as well. I think Lamar Jackson can come back. You've seen some stuff this past year that's concerning to me, and that is even when he was playing, wasn't getting much help around him, and he was kind of trying to do a little bit too much hero ball, too much what Shador Sanders did at Colorado last year, and I feel like defenses are sort of figuring that out. Yeah. I'm with you, Andy. And actually, you know what? I'll go with you too, Andy. I'm going to go with the Bears as well just because I don't know. And maybe it's just to cover the spread. I don't know. But I just think that the Ravens are in a world of hurt, and I actually think that they're more wounded than what they're leading on and what the media wants you to believe.
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I think if you show up at all, you score at least 35 on that team. Their defense is awful. Okay, and that's just what I think. So, okay, next game. So we take the Bears. The 49ers, physical team, they're on the road at the Texans. This, once again, the Texans are favored by one and a half. I don't get it. Will the Texans finally play to their talent level at home? Why are they favored?
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The only reason they're favored, Amy, is because their defense is pretty good. It is. Really good, in fact. Yeah. And that's the only thing that kept him in that game on Monday night. However, the 49ers, Andy, are like the little engine that could with old Mac Jones at quarterback that just keeps... chugging along and doing everything that he can to will that team. And honestly, again, we talked about it at the beginning of the year, Andy, Mac Jones is probably the quarterback that the 49ers should have drafted. They would have never had to move up for Justin Fields, or not for Justin Fields, for a Trey Lance, but different conversations. So I don't get it, Andy. I think this is a close game just because West Coast team's going there. But I just don't trust the Texans, Andy, and C.J. Stroud is. Man, I mean, you want to talk about last year's sophomore slump. This year, he's all messed up. Junior slump. I'm going to go with the 49ers as the upset, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, in fact, okay, you've explained to me why the Texans are favored. Now explain the meaning of life because it's about equally as hard. Okay, let's move on. We'll both take the Niners. Next game, the Buccaneers having a pretty good year. They were favored by three and a half at the Saints. Does Baker have any healthy targets left?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think Buka is going to be back. Poor Mike Evans. So the rookie. He was going for the record. Yeah, he's not. Obviously, he's out, you know, broken collarbone. Right. And Dodgers is coming back, but not this week, Andy. This is going to be a tighter game. I just think, honestly, I just think that the Buccaneers are going to come back, and I think the Saints are that bad, right? That's probably more of what it is. I just don't think the Saints are a very good team this year, which no one anticipated. I don't care that this is a divisional game. I think the Buccaneers may limp to the finish here, Andy, but they're going to at least get through this game. They will win it, and they will go on to their bye and hopefully get some healthy people back for the stretch run.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I agree. I'll take the Bucs. I'll say this, too. The Saints are a perfect example of do not fire the coach because, in my opinion, they have the least talent in the NFL, but they always play hard.
SPEAKER 09 :
Andy, also, don't fire a coach. And then Sean Payton did this. Don't sacrifice the presence. And I get why they did it because they did a lot of it with Drew Brees there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
But if you're going to do it, you better win because otherwise you're going to be in. I mean, they're in for a world of hurt this year and next.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I totally agree. They have no future. Okay, next. The Cowboys are coming to the Broncos. Now, with the league worst defense, we've been talking about bad defenses. The Broncos are going to face the worst one. I think out of 32 teams, I put the Cowboys 32nd. Will Dallas get Denver to punt even once in this game? And I'm serious. I don't think Denver will punt. The answer is yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because our offense is, you want to talk about Jekyll and Hyde. It is. Our offense is so Jekyll and Hyde that you don't know what you're going to get. And it would not surprise me for the Broncos to come out and go three and out. And the Cowboys look like thinking, you know, the 85 Bears.
SPEAKER 10 :
But everybody's going to be wide open. They can't cover. I mean, not only can they not cover anyone. They're not close. I've seen a few Cowboy games this year. Every receiver is running like he's in his own world. It's just incredible.
SPEAKER 09 :
I will take your word for it, Andy. And Diggs is out there top corner. Awful. I said it before. The Broncos tend to play to their level of competition. And so my hope is... that they play to the level of the Cowboys' offense. Because equally as bad as the Cowboys' defense is, Andy, their offense is top five in the NFL. They are really stinking good. Dak is having a career year, and that's actually without having C.D. Lambert a little bit of time so far. So, you know what, Andy? Well, do I play that way? I don't know if I can, Andy. I was going to say, I want to pick the Cowboys. I do. Do it. Because then if I'm wrong, I'm going to pick the Cowboys. You've done that before. Because if I'm wrong, I know, and it's worked out. So I'm going to pick the Cowboys.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm going to take the Broncos because I think they have the league's best defense, and I don't care about the Cowboys' offense going into this altitude. And by the way, you saw what happened in the fourth quarter with the opposition sucking wind this last week. I don't think Dallas comes into this altitude and puts up a great game against this great defense. I just don't see it. I'll take the Broncos. Next game. The Titans are awful. They're on the road at the Colts. Here's my question. Are forfeits a viable option in the NFL? Can you legally forfeit and just not go? Or do you get in trouble?
SPEAKER 09 :
You'd like to think so, Andy, with this team. Unfortunately, I don't think they allow that unless you don't have enough players or something.
SPEAKER 10 :
Maybe you could ask President Trump to send in the National Guard instead. Put them in helmets.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Colts will be killing it. Yeah, Andy. And I actually like Cam Warren. He's actually impressed me a little bit this year with some of his play.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
But just another team that is devoid. Well, they're not devoid of talent because I actually think they have some talent on the defensive line there. And I actually think their offensive line isn't too bad. But they just have no skill. They just have no help. Right. And so, yeah, it's going to be the Colts here, Andy. And, again, we keep going through this. And to the Colts' credit, Andy, they just keep beating the teams in front of them. And that's all you can do.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's right. Okay, we'll take the Colts next game. Okay, Jekyll and Hyde meets Jekyll and Hyde in the next game. The Packers, my Packers, they're a two-and-a-half-point favorite on the road at the Steelers. Green Bay is the only team Aaron Rodgers has never beaten. Can Jordan Love beat his mentor? Who's going to show up? I have no idea with either team. Both of these teams can suck. Both of these teams can look lights out.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was going to say, I don't know either, to be honest with you. This was actually the hardest pick of the week for me because I think that they're very similar teams. I think the Steelers are really good defensively, which I think the Packers are too. And I think that the Steelers, Mike Tomlin, I think he's a really good coach. I think Miloforo is as well. And I think Jordan Love's a really good quarterback. And Aaron still is. But, you know, who is he coming? And like you said, he's the only team. The Packers are the only team he hasn't beat, obviously, for obvious reasons. Andy, I'm going to go with Aaron Rodgers here, mainly because I just don't know if Rodgers, and this is actually from Walt, I don't know if Rodgers and Tomlin let the Packers get one over on them at home on Sunday night. It just seems to scream, no, we're not going to let the Packers come in and beat us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I don't think the Packers have a good defense at all. I think they've got some great pass rushers. But you see, the Broncos have defensive tackles. They've got corners. They've got the rest of the defense. We don't. So we've got a bunch of pass rushers who just get pushed wide every play. And so I don't think it's going to matter. I'm going to take the Steelers, too. Last game. The Commanders are going against the Chiefs. Chiefs are favored by 11.5. What happened to the team that was in the NFC Championship last year? They're awful.
SPEAKER 09 :
The commanders. You know, Andy, what happened? They regressed a little bit. They excelled and over-exceeded a little bit last year, which is fine. Don't get me wrong. And their quarterback has been hurt part of the year, which was one of the concerns of you and myself.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
When he was coming out of the draft, he has a very slight frame, right, folks? Which is to say, he's a skinny guy playing quarterback. Who runs a lot. In the NFL... Yeah, a skinny guy who runs a lot, Andy. Not a skinny guy who gets rid of the ball. He's a skinny guy who runs a lot and does a lot of different things. So I would say to me, I actually think the NFL is disappointed because this was supposed to be one of their premier matchups, especially on Monday Night Football. Mahomes against Daniels and a great matchup. Touche to him. I actually think he's a really good backup quarterback in the NFL. The Chiefs are kind of coming into their own. They're experimenting with stuff. They're finding their way. And unfortunately, they seem to be gaining some traction, Andy, as the year goes on. And I don't think that stops here. It's going to be by big. The question is, do they shut out the Commanders like they did the Ravens? I don't think so. I think the Commanders will play hard. But unfortunately, I think the Chiefs will win.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Binge-worthy movies, TV shows, you name it, Andy, fire it off.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I've got to start with an obvious one right here from Colorado, and that is South Park. This is a long clip, but it's just worth it. It's Al Gore comes to town and talks about ManBearPig. Here we go.
SPEAKER 17 :
Al Gore.
SPEAKER 12 :
talking to the students. Thank you, Mr. Mackey, students of South Park Elementary.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm here to educate you about the single biggest threat to our planet. You see, there is something out there which threatens our very existence and may be the end to the human race as we know it. I'm talking, of course, about ManBearPig.
SPEAKER 14 :
ManBearPig?
SPEAKER 11 :
It is a creature which roams the earth alone. It is half man, half bear, and half pig. Some people say that ManBearPig isn't real. Well, I'm here to tell you now, ManBearPig is very real, and he most certainly exists. I'm cereal. ManBearPig doesn't care who you are or what you've done. ManBearPig simply wants to get you. I'm super cereal. But have no fear, because I am here to save you. And someday, when the world is rid of ManBearPig, everyone will say, thank you, Al Gore. You're super awesome. The end.
SPEAKER 05 :
Everybody's just staring. ManBearPig.
SPEAKER 10 :
ManBearPig. So for the rest of the episode, they're actually trying to find ManBearPig. That's pretty funny, actually. Richard, did you ever see that episode?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, Andy, I think man-bear-pig is just as believable as, or more than believable than actual climate change, you know, Mr. Gore. It is. As he might say.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just love it. Half man, half bear, half pig.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think the best part about South Park is that they don't care who you are. They make fun of everyone. It doesn't matter. And that's perfect. That's sort of what it is. That's what comedy is supposed to be.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I totally agree. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, Andy, for bingeable shows, I'm going to go to one that, Dad, I know that you don't do or whatever it might be. But that's okay. Harry Potter, especially around Halloween here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's definitely not my favorite.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's very well done, well written, everything.
SPEAKER 10 :
Let me just play a little of the theme song when people hear this. Okay.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you hear that at the beginning of each one, and you know the magic is about to happen. And, John, I'm telling you, it is a great set of characters. And, Richard, isn't it fun, like on a Harry Potter weekend, when you can just tune in and watch a bunch of them?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's one of those things. They go together really well. They have good action. Some of them are a little bit slower than the others, right? And they take a little bit of time to get going. But it's so worth it. So well written. So well done. And especially, I'll be honest with you, J.K. Rowling being the... I guess not quite conservative that she is, but at least the anti- craziness out there, I'll watch them whenever I get a chance.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and also the cast on Harry Potter is really good, and they too would score at will on the Cowboys. Just so you know. All of them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Even J.K.
SPEAKER 10 :
Rawlings would score on the Cowboys.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, you're up. Only because you said Sylvester Stallone earlier, and it's kind of a cheesy show, but it's actually really good, and when one episode ends, you do want to watch the next episode, so it makes binge-watching very easy, and that's Tulsa King. It's the new series he's out in. It's not bad at all.
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it's not probably for kids because the language can get a little rough at times, but it is good.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just like him.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a good movie. It's a good show, actually. It really is. It's not bad at all. So if you haven't seen it, it's worth watching. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, guys. How are you? Good. Hey, John. Hey, can I make a quick comment on last Sunday's game? Sure. Andy? Yeah. Okay. No, just Andy. Missed extra points. You fire your kicker after that. Yeah. You don't. Go chasing the missed extra point with a two-point conversion in the first half. It's just bad coaching. It was.
SPEAKER 10 :
But you've got to keep in mind, though, John, the reason the game got close, a lot of it was the altitude. They're a young team. They weren't ready. Their legs were gone in the fourth quarter. Their legs were absolutely gone. You could tell. Two other comments. I've seen it happen so many times.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's dark. Beats that ball and doesn't throw that intersection and they punt and make the Broncos drive the length of the field. They probably win. And then the other thing is on the last set of depth, you know, after they scored and took the lead back. Why do you go to prevent defense with two down linemen when your best defensive players are linemen?
SPEAKER 10 :
You don't, and that's basically a coach making stupid decisions and handing the game away. But you know what? Teams hand the game away when they panic, and that just happens. It happens every week. Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 07 :
There you go. Those are just my points on that game.
SPEAKER 10 :
So what you're saying is you are not binge-watching the film of that game, huh?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. Okay, just checking. I'd rather have a tooth pulled.
SPEAKER 05 :
I was just going to say a tooth pulled is better, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, okay. Well, what do you binge watch? Okay, I got three, if that's all right, two TV and a movie. Sure. TV, Star Trek Picard Season 3 was probably some of the best Star Trek since The Height of Next Generation. That was probably the best Star Trek that's been on in a really long time. Okay. Then for movies, the John Wayne Cavalry series, Fort Apache, He Wore a Yellow Ribbon, and Rio Grande. Three great movies if you want to just binge on some old classic John Wayne movies.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, actually, I put down on my thing just John Wayne movies or just Clint Eastwood movies. I will have a weekend where I just watch that actor.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but, you know, what's funny is you've got to watch him. Do you want to watch him in Westerns, in Cavalry, as he went in the Second World War? Yeah. You can take those options. Yeah. Yeah, good point. But then the last one, and I don't know if it's going to come up, and I thought it was terrific, was 1923. Yeah, it's on my list. Yeah, I thought that one would be, the second season especially, would be worth watching again. Well done, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, good job.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely, John. You guys have a good rest of the day. All right, man, appreciate you very much. All right, Andy, your turn.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, let's see which one of you called this first. Here we go. bond james bond bond james bond so all of them just line them up oh just a group you know grab a group usually uh from one of the bonds and i'll watch just some sean connery for an afternoon or some daniel craig for an afternoon i'll do that it's a lot of fun what do you think richard are you there richard oh richard richard richard and we lost him for a minute
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, now I'm here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now you're out.
SPEAKER 09 :
I didn't want to talk to you. Richard. I just didn't want to talk to Andy anymore.
SPEAKER 10 :
Do your sons always just tune you out, John? Sometimes. Oh, okay. Richard, what do you think? James Bond, would you watch a few of those?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, good. Binge, though, can you watch one after the other? I don't know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, no, I'm not talking all of James. You know what I mean? I'm talking, say, two or three from one actor, like two or three Daniel Craig's or Pierce Brosnan or Sean Connery, that kind of thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Fair enough. I'll give it to you. Okay. You're up. All right. I'm going to go TV show here, Andy, because you did open yourself up to this terrible idea for you. I did. Friday Night Lights. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Phenomenal. Good old Coach Taylor. That's on my list.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know if it's on mine, but let me – I mean, it should be on mine. That's a really good – oh, yeah, it's on mine. Yeah, there it is. That's a good one. Yep. Okay. Absolutely. John, you're up. Let's see here. Lincoln Lawyer. Have either one of you watched it?
SPEAKER 10 :
I have not seen Lincoln Lawyer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not the movie. So there's the movie with McConaughey, and then there's the series, and the series is really good. The Netflix one, right? What's that? That's the Netflix one, right? Yes, and it's very good.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Very good. All right. Can I go to another?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Here's an easy one. Maybe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe.
SPEAKER 18 :
Space, the final frontier.
SPEAKER 10 :
So the movies or the TV show? TV show. The old original TV show. The original show.
SPEAKER 18 :
These are the voyages of the starship.
SPEAKER 10 :
With a real man as captain.
SPEAKER 18 :
Its five-year mission, to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations.
SPEAKER 10 :
We'll let him finish.
SPEAKER 18 :
To boldly go where no man has gone before.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was an unbelievably good show. It was. It was so cool. And the chemistry between the three main characters, spectacular.
SPEAKER 05 :
I watched it every day back in the day.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And can I binge watch that when I'm on a Saturday afternoon? Yes, I can.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it was good. Richard, you're up. Oh, man. There you go, Andy. Well, I mean.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're interesting, but hey, you know, it is what it is. I am. I'm several hundred years old, so that's why I can do that.
SPEAKER 09 :
That you are. Okay. All right. I'm going to go with movies since, you know, movie rentals, whatever you might want to be. Okay. Back to the future. Because I feel like those are good binge watchables.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Absolutely. That's a good one. I didn't think of that. Good.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good quality films there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Okay. Can't argue that one. Go ahead, John. I'm trying to get something that we don't talk much about. How about, because this was actually a good series and it's worth binge watching, especially if you're a conservative man on the high castle.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. The bad guys won. Okay. I'm going to try this one and I'm going to see if John gets this from the music. Here we go. No? Sons of Anarchy. Oh, I never watched it. Oh, you never saw it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
I never watched it. Oh, there you go. Richard, did you ever see Sons of Anarchy? Yes, I did. A little bit. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's bingeable. I never watched it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is it really good?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. It's good. I mean, you... Pretty good. I don't think you would love it, but... It's got a motorcycle game, kind of like Hell's Angels sort of thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I never watched it. TV version. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Easy enough. What's that one? Oh, Peaky Blinders. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I started watching it, and then I got sidetracked and started watching something else. Okay, John. Actually, it's decent. It's good. It's got moments. Yeah, it's good. You're up. Let me cross off both of these sons of anarchy, and Ozark, I'm going to say, is my next one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Ozark, yeah, that's on my list. Okay, listen to this and guess it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
No?
SPEAKER 05 :
Don't know. Richard? No idea.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sopranos?
SPEAKER 05 :
Never saw it. Oh, you never saw the Sopranos? Nope, never saw it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sorry, guys. I'm alone there. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
I always thought, because that was HBO, right, Andy? Yeah. Yeah, you know, could not have HBO.
SPEAKER 05 :
We didn't subscribe. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Andy, we didn't have luxuries in life.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we didn't spend money on that. We didn't have those.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that's on me. I shouldn't have played that one. Okay. I guarantee my next one will be one that Richard knows.
SPEAKER 09 :
Richard's dad was cheap. Andy, you got to go back to the black and white days, you know, like maybe like the Andy Griffith show or something, but that's about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
John was cheap. He made you act out the films yourself.
SPEAKER 05 :
We didn't have that subscription.
SPEAKER 09 :
Andy, we could not have any subscriptions. Andy, when I got married on my own, I realized there's a whole new world that you can actually subscribe to different channels. I had no idea. Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because we didn't.
SPEAKER 10 :
There's a whole new world that has entertainment.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we didn't.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. Entertainment values, Andy. Go ahead. All right. Jurassic Park. That's a good bingeable little. Although the first one's obviously the best. Or maybe Jurassic World, Andy, because the first two of those aren't too bad.
SPEAKER 10 :
I like the first one the best. Jeff Goldblum in his prime. Yeah. Okay, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, my next one is, and I think Richard will understand this. I don't know if Andy watched this. I don't know if Charlie did either. Billions until COVID, because then it got all screwed up after COVID. Oh, yeah. Am I right, Richard? It was really good until COVID hit, and then it was awful after that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I never saw it. Yeah, well, you got Bobby Axelrod.
SPEAKER 05 :
Come on, Andy. For Mr. Capitalist, it's definitely worth watching.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I'm sorry. We all see different things.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's good. Until, again, until COVID hit, and then it got awful.
SPEAKER 10 :
I can't believe you guys haven't said the one. But anyway, go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me get Joe going here. Go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 03 :
Guys, I got a couple. One is the Emmy Award-winning series Justified with Timothy Olyphant about a U.S. marshal. I like him.
SPEAKER 05 :
I've only seen a couple of episodes. I don't know why. I just can't – I don't know why I can't get into it. It's good.
SPEAKER 03 :
It didn't hook you.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I don't know why.
SPEAKER 03 :
It won so many Emmy Awards. It wasn't on a major network. I think it was on TNT or something. Right. But, you know, and every season.
SPEAKER 10 :
Joe, does it make you happy to watch? Does it bring happiness? Because that would be why John wouldn't watch it. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, and typically just how he winds up, you know, killing some bad guys, you know. And, of course, he's back to Kentucky where he grew up. Half the people he's fighting or trying to arrest and put in jail are guys he went to high school with. Good. Yeah. Anyway, that was one. Burn Notice, one of the greatest spy theories. I never watched it either. No, I saw some of that. It was good. You don't know what you're missing. Burn Notice, what a great series. And, of course, any of the Reacher series, which, you know, on Amazon Prime, I think each one is, you know, eight to ten episodes long, and there's been three of them, three seasons. Another sleeper, which is on Amazon Prime, Sherlock with Benedict Cumberbatch. Mr. Cumberbatch? I like him. I like him. But set in modern-day London, it's a great twist on a classic. Never saw it. John, you don't know if you're a Sherlock Holmes fan. It's just incredible. Okay. And one that has become, I've just started watching again, it is even more relevant today than it was 15 years ago, Person of Interest, which was a TV series.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, good show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And think about it. Never once, I think the series ran for five years. It's about a computer geek who has invented a computer system that he built for the government. It's basically AI. Yeah, that today we would call it AI. Never once in the five years did they refer to it as AI. That's what it was. That's what it was, and it can identify. It listens to every email, every phone call, every text message, every traffic camera, every purchase, and can predict when somebody's going to be killed. Okay. Yeah, it's good. It's so relevant today because... Back then it was science fiction. Today it could be reality. It's reality.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. No, good one. Good one, Joe. Caviezel, that was a good one. Good job, Joe. All right, appreciate it. Let's do this. We'll take a break. We'll come back. We'll keep rolling. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith. Find Al at klzradio.com.
SPEAKER 19 :
This is TJ with KLZ Radio. Once again, we're back with Golden Eagle Financial and the wonderful Al Smith. Al, how are you today? I'm doing great, TJ. How are you? I'm doing well. Hey, we work a lot with estate plans and things like that and that's a natural part of retirement plans. I know you're not an attorney, but what do you do where it's related to estate plans?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, a large part of estate planning is the simple end of it, which is beneficiary designations on various financial products, such as IRAs or life insurance or investment accounts, because as people name those beneficiaries, there's a feature called per stirpus for contingent beneficiaries. And essentially what that means, let's say if there's a married couple and one of their children dies before the primary spouse and then the spouse passes on, then when the primary person passes, rather than having it be divided equally between the children, it would go only to the one who didn't pass on and then the grandchildren would be disinherited. I hope that's not too confusing, but essentially the word per stirpus in a beneficiary designation would mean if that beneficiary died, his or her share would pass down the bloodline to the grandchildren.
SPEAKER 19 :
Sounds like a serious word. So I would also guess that you have a pretty vast network so you can direct folks to the right people to complete those, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, that I can do myself. That's not a document for an attorney or anything like that. That is just a little box to check on a beneficiary designation for an IRA, an annuity, a life insurance contract, an investment account. Those beneficiary forms, they just have a person's name, and then they have a box to check either per stirpus or per capita. Per capita means... the proceeds would go to the other party who hasn't passed on. Per stirpus means the proceeds, if the primary person who is named is deceased, then his or her share would go down the bloodline to their own children. Not to an ex-surviving spouse, but down the bloodline.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's great. So folks can get in touch with you and really get kind of a total form of all their retirement stuff. Al, how do folks do that? How do they get in touch with you?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, you can reach me at 303-744-1128. If you're driving when you hear this, get in touch with KLZ. They'll put you in touch with me so we can arrange either a healthy conversation on the phone or for you to come into the office. We'll have a cup of coffee and talk about whatever's on your mind.
SPEAKER 19 :
And as always, klzradio.com slash money will get you there. Al, thanks so much today.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hey, you're welcome. Thanks for having me, TJ.
SPEAKER 20 :
Live and local. Back to Rush to Reason. And we are back. All right, Andy, take it away.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, we're going to have to go rapid fire. But first, Richard, this one's for you. It's a movie trilogy that I think you're going to recognize the music. Here we go.
SPEAKER 05 :
Richard? Any ideas?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know, Andy. I don't either.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're kidding. Listen.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're kidding. No. How to train your dragon.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I did not at all, Andy. Not way over. Really? Wow. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, I love it, but I did not even recognize it. Okay. Well, anyway, How to Train Your Dragon, you can watch those back to back to back. They're really good. Richard, you're up. Let's go rapid fire. Here we go. Lost. I can't believe you haven't mentioned that one yet, Dan. Yeah, Lost is a good one. Classic. Tracker for me. Okay. How about Pirates of the Caribbean? That one works. You can watch them. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's see here, Andy. Oh, Andy, we would not be doing a binge-watchable thing if we didn't mention Mad Max. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Awful.
SPEAKER 09 :
Especially for you, Dan.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 1 :
24.
SPEAKER 05 :
There's like 15 season or some dumb thing. No, there's not that many, but there's a lot.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, here's one that was good except for the last season. Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER 05 :
Never saw it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're up. Missing out.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Dark Knight, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yes. John. This is an interesting series. I've watched a couple of seasons, and I kind of got distracted, but Banshee. Banshee.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, good. Here's one that started off great and then fell apart, Lucifer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I didn't watch it ever.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, well, if we're going to go TV shows now, I got to say the show about nothing, which is Seinfeld. Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Which, if you're going to go down that road, let's go Schitt's Creek. Absolutely hilarious.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, one of the ultimate watch several in a row, Star Wars.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh yeah, good one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Gotta go with that. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe one of the most underrated funny shows out there, Andy, Parks and Rec.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's pretty funny. Okay, this one you guys probably haven't seen. Billy Bob Thornton, Goliath is the name of the series. I have not seen it. It's a great series. Very good things. It's awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, here's one a lot of people know, Stranger Things.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know that one.
SPEAKER 10 :
I got a clip. We don't have time. Go, Richard. Did we do, we didn't do break.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do what? Breaking Bad? No, that one counts. Yep, that's on my list. Well, if you're going to do that, go Better Call Saul.
SPEAKER 10 :
Got to go with that, absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Backing it up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, one of my favorites of all time to rewatch over and over, The X-Files. Mulder and Scully, love it. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think you'd like this one, The Bear on FX.
SPEAKER 05 :
Never seen it. The Bear, it's called?
SPEAKER 09 :
No. It's the guy from another series. What's the one series? The Chicago. The guy from Fair goes in it. He's the bad dad. Limitless? No, not Limitless. Don't know it. But I believe you. The Bear.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know it. The Bear. Okay. John, you're up. Speaking of bears, how about Animal Kingdom, which has nothing to do with animals? It's a great show, though.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Ultimate movie series to watch, Lord of the Rings. That's if you've got a lot of time. Go, Richard. This was a mini-series sort of thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're losing you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Chernobyl.
SPEAKER 05 :
What? Chernobyl.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay, yeah. Chernobyl.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good one. Go, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mayor of Kingstown.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. How about John Wick? Come on, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
John Wick's good.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, Richard, go. Oh, let's see here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Firefly. Pulling things out now. Yep. Somebody mentioned that one as well. And this will be our last one. Then we've got to take a break. I'm going to go with Reacher.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, less than a minute left. Go for it, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I'm going to go through The Walking Dead, The Twilight Zone, Angel, Quantum Leap, Orphan Black, Charmed, Deadwood.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, I'm going to do Queen of the South, Jack Ryan, The Night Agent, which, by the way, has turned out to be a fairly decent, fairly new one, and let's do Fargo. Not the series, not the movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, right, right. Okay, Chuck, Friends, Frasier, and let's see here, Big Bang Theory, Gotham, La Femme Nikita.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, how about Heroes and Terminalist?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, how about Band of Brothers, The Blacklist, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Bones.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, I'll close with Shooter and The Equalizer.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. And, oh, I've got to throw one in. Go for it. Archer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Archer. Okay, all right. That's it, guys. Have a great evening. Be back tomorrow morning. Fix It Radio, followed up by Drive Radio. Have, again, a fabulous weekend. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I'm a rich guy
It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason—and you know what that means: movie reviews, laughs, and the occasional political body slam. John Rush and Andy Pate kick things off with their signature banter and a double feature review: Shelby Oaks, a disappointing YouTuber-turned-horror flick that couldn’t scare a toddler, and Chainsaw Man, a bizarre anime that’s equal parts gore, romance, and teenage hormones.
But the show doesn’t stop at popcorn talk. The conversation turns sharp as John and Andy draw parallels between self-edited horror films and self-sabotaging political campaigns—especially in Colorado’s GOP. From movie directors who can’t take criticism to candidates who can’t read the room, it’s a masterclass in how ego kills art and elections.
Then, the guys dive into Hollywood hypocrisy: actors so politically toxic you can’t enjoy their films anymore. They wrap the hour reminding conservatives to “set ego aside” and serve the public, just like great filmmakers serve their audience. Clint Eastwood, Tom Cruise, and even Rob Reiner (yes, that Rob Reiner) get shoutouts for understanding the market—and so should every Republican running for office.
Hour two promises more fun: binge-worthy shows, classic series marathons, and listener picks. Friday on Rush to Reason is where pop culture meets common sense.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I'm a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Pate.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
SPEAKER 10 :
What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
SPEAKER 06 :
What do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 09 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush. John Rush.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, happy Friday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. Beautiful Friday afternoon, by the way. It is gorgeous, isn't it? We'll take it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we'll take it.
SPEAKER 04 :
We'll be this way forever, so we'll take it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Apparently, the weekend's going to be really nice.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's supposed to be a really nice weekend. Might be a little bit cooler next week, but we'll take it.
SPEAKER 08 :
This looks like kind of one of those last weekends to do things outside, get the yard in place. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would suggest you do whatever you need to along those lines. Absolutely. Yep. Yes. Whatever you need to do, get it done. Again, I don't, I don't know if there's any huge, you know, weather coming in. It depends on who you listen to. Some talk about maybe a little bit of snow for the front range here this next week, but yeah, Who knows, Andy? No. No idea. All right, what do we got today for movies?
SPEAKER 08 :
I've gotten my sprinklers blown out, so I don't have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 04 :
You'll be good. All right, so what do we got today for movies?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, we're going to have Shelby Oaks, which is a little bit of a horror movie, and then some anime. Okay, I got an anime film called Chainsaw Man, which may well be the top-selling movie of the week.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I assume next Friday because it – make sure I have my dates right here. Since it is Halloween, we'll be doing some sort of scary movie Halloween nonsense, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, and the hour two will be scary movies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Obviously.
SPEAKER 04 :
So we already know that will be next week.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. We do that every year.
SPEAKER 04 :
yep yep um okay well um that's always your worst that's all yeah that's the worst one of the year yeah that's not my that's not my i mean it all works out i'm not worried about it well it's it's not just a struggle for you richard doesn't watch that many of those movies either no it's not you know of course with his kids and so on no probably not our biggest genre of movies but i have in the past right you know i i know a few
SPEAKER 08 :
I'll be honest, if I didn't do movie reviews, I would rarely go to a scary movie. Obviously, I see probably 30 of them a year. Okay, at least. And so I'm used to it, but I probably wouldn't do that. Just saying. Okay. Did you want to do question of the day?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, we'll do that during the lab. We'll take a break. We'll come right back. So again, folks, we've got two movies today. I should have mentioned, what are we doing for hour number two?
SPEAKER 08 :
Hour number two is going to be binge watching. It could be movies or shows on TV. What do you binge watch when you've got an afternoon to kill?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so we'll talk about that in the last hour as well. Dr. Scott's up next again. Don't forget, he is my doctor. He'd love to be yours as well. And he thinks about things differently than your normal provider does. Call him today, 303-663-6990.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John Rush. Are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's Friday. It's Friday.
SPEAKER 08 :
Of course you are, John. Well, a YouTube critic, movie critic actually, makes a horror movie called Shelby Oaks.
SPEAKER 13 :
Welcome back to the Paranormal Paranoid. Today we're taking our first foray into the abandoned town of Shelby Oaks.
SPEAKER 12 :
I've been searching for Riley for the last 12 years. I know my sister's not dead.
SPEAKER 13 :
Bodies were found outside of Shelby Oaks. Riley Brennan is still missing.
SPEAKER 11 :
The last night I saw her, she said she saw a man standing in her window.
SPEAKER 12 :
You live alone out here?
SPEAKER 08 :
Finally. What do you think, John? Scary?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, sounds like it. The preview looks like it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it looks very scary. Okay, well, Chris Stuckman, that's actually his name, he does movie reviews on YouTube. Real guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So now he gets reviewed himself. And I thought this would be kind of interesting because we movie critics... We all say what we would do differently with the movie, right? It should have had more of this, less of that, none of this, none of that, whatever. And what if we actually made an entire movie because that's an entirely different thing. I think about football fans. We all say, hey, we should have gone for it on fourth or no, take the points, or we disagree with how the coach does it. But what if you had to run an entire football team and you had to deal with all the mechanics of that? That's a lot. So I just thought it was pretty interesting that Stuckman was putting himself out there to actually get reviewed himself. Here we go now. The story is 12 years ago, Riley, she's played by Sarah Dern. She was a YouTuber, okay, doing videos on haunted homes. And when she went missing in a small town in Ohio called Shelby Oaks. No, J.D. Vance had nothing to do with it. I know you were suspecting. I just thought this was kind of interesting. Ohio, I have never seen a horror story about Ohio. So that was interesting. Anyway, her filming crew was actually found brutally murdered, but she just disappeared. Now, Riley's sister, Mia, her name is Camille Sullivan, that's the actress, is being interviewed for the documentary. Mia is still determined to learn the truth of what happened, so they go to Shelby Oaks, she and her film team. Well, this seems more historical than scary, John, but then something horrible happens. Someone kills themselves right in front of Mia. Wow. Now Mia must study the history of Shelby Oaks as she investigates its sinister origins. Well, this, of course, has Mia talking to the locals. You've got this witchy woman. You've got a prison that they have to walk through. It's very scary. You have, you know, the usual horror film stuff. What matters is that she's discovering how this little abandoned town could take her sister. And maybe, just maybe, it will threaten Mia and her crew. Well, convinced that Riley might still be alive, Mia pushes forward, even without her film crew. So she decides, even without them, I'm going to look into some of this stuff. And so suddenly this is not done in documentary style anymore. It's done as a straight movie, just watching Mia try to investigate this. But what if Mia finds Riley? Then what? Or what if she doesn't? Danger and mystery lurk around every corner in Shelby Oaks. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Doesn't sound bad. Yeah, I mean, it does sound like a good movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sounds pretty interesting, right? Looking into her sister and what happened. Okay, well, what works in Shelby Oaks? Well, first of all, the beauty of these found footage movies is the raw, real look. Okay? That adds to the scariness, since it feels like this is really happening. And I've always kind of liked that feel for horror films. to make them feel more real. And it does that. Second, you've got a good mystery combined with jump scares and horror. A lot of these horror films are pretty straightforward. This one has a real mystery, and it unfolds to you. There's much more investigation in this film than most horror movies, and there's a cop in it. And he sounds very real. I like that they got this cop in it. And he adds a real, I don't know, just a feeling of, yes, this is an investigation. This is what we did. This is how it broke down. And that helped the movie a lot. Next, you got some scary moments being pursued in an underground hallway. I hate that. dimly lit underground hallways in horror movies, don't you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, they're terribly scary. I'm not saying that you've got two girls following you like in The Shining, but it's icky. Okay. And it's really good. You have some plot twists as the true villain finally changes. You think it's this one. Nope, it's this one. Nope, it's this one. And I like that. It kind of moves it around, moving target. Finally, Camille Sullivan, she does a good job as the dogged investigator and a screen queen. And she does a real good job in the movie. Now, what doesn't work in Shelby Oaks? Because, once again, Stuckman, he got his chance to do it. And let's see how he did. First of all, there's far too little horror. This is a horror movie. You need more horror. And it really fell short. Very slow pace. Pretty much a collage of other films. Okay. You take some Blair Witch Project, you add some hereditary, mix in some paranormal activity, add water, stir, voila, you got a movie. Basically, he was borrowing from all kinds of other movies, not doing his own thing, not charting his own course. And so it had this feeling of, geez, I've seen this before again and again and again. It's not so bad.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
But it just wasn't that good. What begins as a focused story, and it did, well, it becomes bits and pieces falling from the sky. Now, I understand it's because it's a mystery, right? You're getting a little here, a little there. But it's just too scattered. By midway, oh, the film is dragging badly. And it really did.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
You don't want to be in one of these mixed kind of found footage, normal footage movies where the story just grinds to a halt. And they literally could have cut, I would say, 15, 20 minutes out of the inner hour of this movie and sped it up, and it would have been much better. Okay. It's terribly implausible with Mia walking into extremely dangerous situations alone and unarmed. I'm sorry. We always... You know, you've seen horror movies where there are always several times you say, don't go in there. Don't open that door. Don't go there.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, it's behind that door.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And we do it anyways. Well, yeah, but we can put up with some of that. But there there are degrees to where we say, no, that's just too stupid. I wouldn't do that. Right. No human being would be this dumb. Well, unfortunately, she is that dumb. And she walks right into some of these situations where you're just like, hey, no, no, no, no. Especially somebody who investigates horror. Come on. You should know better. Yeah, only a complete idiot does these things.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But she's shown to be an idiot. It doesn't work.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, the final battle is done a lot like Weapons, the movie Weapons that came out this summer, which I said was the best movie of the year. Well, this was done with far less quality. So they tried to do similar to what Weapons did. Only Weapons was done extremely well. This was done, I think, on a very tight budget. Okay. Let's just say that. It wasn't as good. Bottom line, this is just a real yawner of a horror film.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
Nobody was horrified. The audience wasn't very big, but what people I saw in there, they didn't come out going, oh, did you see that? There were no gasps or screaming or anything like that. There was no reaction at all. I mean, honestly, midway through, I should have walked through and checked everybody's pulse because I didn't have one, I know. So there you go. Rotten Tomatoes, for whatever reason, and maybe they were being kind to a fellow critic. They gave it 68%. Not great, but come on, man. It wasn't that good of a movie. It just wasn't that good. It's too slow. Quality, I'm giving this one and a half stars.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow, so the movie critic only gets one five. Yeah, I'm sorry. Just wasn't that good, huh?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and you know what the big thing is this, is I think a lot of times when we think that we would do what somebody else does, be it coach a team, run a business, whatever, we think about all the things that we would put in, but what we don't think about is what we would edit out. And this guy left too many of his thoughts in the movie. It wasn't edited well. That was the biggest problem with this movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
What kind of budget do you think this thing had?
SPEAKER 08 :
low i would say okay just low okay you know and which is part of the other factor people forget at times right it costs money to do these things yeah and by the way it'll probably make money just because of that why because there are a lot of people who know this guy i'm gonna go watch it period right they'll go watch a period it's very low budget so unlike disney films this year it'll actually make some money maybe i can't imagine he'll do a sequel okay um it's just not worth it uh political three more religious three didn't preach at all that i liked okay that part was good Yeah. Shelby Oaks is just a creepy little horror movie that had some horror moments. Don't get me wrong. When she is trying to get away, and I won't explain it all, but trying to get away coming out of the hallway, there are some camera tricks done in there that are very scary. Very nicely done. And I was thinking, there you go. Man, you nailed that scene. And then back to reality. And it just wasn't very good. So, now, do I recommend going to Shelby Oaks? Absolutely not. I don't know what horror movies are coming out next week even. I haven't looked. But I'm sure they're going to be better than this. Wait for Halloween.
SPEAKER 04 :
And do you think that timing was done, I'm guessing, purposely because you know all the big stuff's next week?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Give it a little more flair maybe?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Bottom line, John, if they thought that they had a winner here, they would have put it out on Halloween.
SPEAKER 1 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. So they put it out the week ahead of Halloween, which – You've already got some horror movies because they're coming out all year round nowadays because they're cheap and Hollywood needs to save money. You already had some that came out in September and very early October, but nothing for the last couple weeks. So this was a real good pocket of time to release this. But no, if they thought they had something good, they would have released it a week later. So don't go to Shelby Oaks. Not worth it.
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The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Deadverse Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate, and John! Are you ready for another movie?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hope it's better than the last one.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think we can top that, John. I think we can do it. Okay, John, were you awkward as a teen? I was.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know. Aren't we all?
SPEAKER 08 :
Were you ever a teen? Let me ask it that way. Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah. Is there photo proof?
SPEAKER 04 :
I was a working teen.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. You see, you're not going to get this movie at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
That was an anomaly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, teen awkwardness, it meets gory superpowers in Chainsaw Man.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, Ms. Mocky Mocky. Do you think I have a heart?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, you do. The name's Reze. I can teach you everything. Let me teach you.
SPEAKER 14 :
I might fall for this girl. Bomb is coming. Jeez. Everybody's after my Chainsaw heart!
SPEAKER 09 :
What about my heart? Genji's heart? Does nobody want that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Boom.
SPEAKER 1 :
Chainsaw!
SPEAKER 12 :
Boom.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, do you get any feel for that movie at all? None. Zilch. I know. This is going to be really weird because, once again, this comes from the world of anime. All right? So Chinese animation, which, by the way, I like. I like a lot of anime. There's a lot of anime that's really boring and silly, but some of it is just incredible. Well, this is going to be less of a movie review and more introducing you to another world. Are you ready? All right. Chainsaw Man is a popular anime series, and it's only had 12 episodes so far. And they are very popular. People just love them. It's a sensation. Just so you know, it is an online sensation. The star character is named Denji, and he's a Japanese teenager living in a time when devils prowl and destroy. Now, these devils come from our collective fears, and they take terrible forms. There is an organization called Public Safety that hunts the devils down, and it's led by a woman named Makima. Okay, so how does Denji get involved in all this? Well, Denji, he's an orphan who's been exploited, so he's very, very poor. And his only friend was a dog that was merged with a chainsaw devil. Once again, these things are things that... They represent our biggest fears, so chainsaws, bombs, guns. So you've got gun devil, you've got bomb devil, you've got chainsaw devil, and so forth. And devils, just so you know, once again, it's not the devil. In Japan, devils are a very different thing. They're still bad, okay, but they're not quite what we're used to, say, in the Christian faith. It's very different. All right, well, at one point, Denji must merge with Pochita. That's his dog. Okay. Okay, and he's got to merge with the dog to save it, and he becomes the devil hybrid chainsaw man.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And so he literally has a chainsaw that comes out of his head, out of his hands, and so forth. Multiple chainsaws. So by pulling a cord, literally pulling a cord in his chest, Denji actually grows chainsaws out of himself to battle the other devils. Are you following this?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think so.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, it's very weird, I know. Anime can get so weird. Well, anyway, this leads Denji to work with public safety, where he has a crush on Makama. Remember, she's in charge of it. Now, Makama, she's a demon hybrid herself. She is able to dominate men. OK, she can control their minds, which, by the way, I think all women actually have this power. So I'm not sure this is unique, but Makama can control men. She can, you know, use the eyes on them and they literally would do will do whatever they want, whatever she wants. As such, Denji, who, let's face it, is a hormone filled teenage boy. Well, he wants her. He wants Makama. But then Denji meets something new, a girl named Reze. And she is very pretty, too. Now, she shares Denji's kind of gross teen humor. She's not as mature as Makama. And she actually cares about Denji. Makama was using Denji for cheap labor. So Denji, he's going out there, and this is part of the 12... series, right? He goes out there and fights all these demons. You know what his pay is? Room and board. That's it. So she says to him, hey, you're being misused for crying out loud. You should get paid more than this, right? How can you put up with this? You should quit. Well, anyway, a cute romance comes forth. As Reze and Denji, they do all the flirty things teens do, even skinny dipping. Oh, my goodness. But Reze, she says Denji should, you know, he should quit. He should stop doing this because he's underpaid for fighting dangerous demons. What? Well, eventually, a terrible, terrible, terrible force emerges, and Denji must fight against those who take advantage of him, but also the terrible devils themselves. This, of course, involves incredible action, right? And so you get all that anime action going around, sawing through this and battling that. Well, beneath it all, we see a theme. In our desperation, should we allow others to use us? And our desperation can take many forms. It can be because we're poor. It can be because we're lonely. It can be because we are hormone-filled teenagers. It can be for whatever reason. Everybody has a weak spot, John. And the question is, will you allow others to exploit it? And that's kind of an underlying theme of Chainsaw Man. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Weird.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very weird. Yes. Okay. Well, what works in Chainsaw Man? Well, the cartoonistry is off the charts.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really?
SPEAKER 08 :
Wonderful. Yeah. Not the best I've ever seen. I saw better recently with some anime, but it's up there. It's really impressive.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And both in the quiet sequences and the raging 3D action, by the way, this was 3D. I was surprised by the charming nature of the teen romance. Though, you know, Benji, he's sex craved, of course. And so he's really struggling because on the one hand, he loves Makiman. On the other hand, he loves this new girl. And he's really struggling with that. But he's a teenager. He's a teenage boy. And I kind of like how they show the real struggle that a teenage boy might have. Okay. There is a good message here. In that Denji's inability to read or write, that's another weakness. Okay, he's illiterate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because he was too poor. He couldn't go to school.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, gotcha.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that combined with his teen hormones makes him vulnerable to deception. Gotcha. Knowledge is power, folks.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the second half is action-packed with battles against hopeless odds. And you do have some humor. There's some funny moments dealing with him being a teen. Finally, this film delivers what fans want. personal story from denji right plus bloody action so that's what the people are there for and there was actually a pretty good crowd for this movie there were a lot of people who wanted to see this movie it's very popular okay what doesn't work in chainsaw man well the biggest question with any of these tv series brought to the big screen is what am i going to be lost If I walk into this, am I going to be lost or will it help me catch up real quick? It doesn't. This movie doesn't help you catch up at all. Yes, you will be lost. You won't know the characters and they don't care. Just so you know. You do kind of pick it up. You pick up the story as it goes. Don't get me wrong, but it would really help to catch a few episodes first. Next, in fact, without knowing the show itself, the action, that gets confusing too. It's so big and all over the place and fast. You know how the Marvel movies, it feels like you're in a kaleidoscope or... Yeah, it's just on a roller coaster or whatever. It gets that way in this movie to where you're just kind of like, okay, settle down for a moment and just have the battle, right? The first half... Now, this is really shocking for me. It's pretty much all Denji. No Chainsaw Man, okay? It takes forever getting to the big action scenes. So, this movie's called Chainsaw Man. You don't see Chainsaw Man, really. I mean, you see a little at the beginning, but you don't see him until over halfway into the movie. Nearly two-thirds of the movie is gone just watching Denji deal with his feelings. I mean, do you think that's why these young people go to this?
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, they look bored. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
They're done, huh?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it takes forever getting to the action. It's very, very slow, and also it needed much more humor. They could have done more humor. They proved it at a couple points, but, boy, it needed a lot more. Next, they put a cliffhanger ending on this. So we have to watch the show? That's a ripoff. Come on. Make the movie stand on its own. Don't force us to go watch a show. I'm not going to go watch the show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know the fans will, I get it, but come on. Finally, the bottom line. This film is for fans of the show and anime, if you like anime. Anyone else, I believe, is going to be bored with this movie. I really do. So this is going to be kind of a hard one to review, right? Because I'm looking at the whole span of people who go to movies. So here we go. Rotten Tomatoes gave this 100%. Wow. Those who went to it gave it 99%. But they're all fans of the show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they did get what they wanted. Quality, I'm going to give it three stars. So I am going to give it thumbs up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right? But it's going to be a tentative thumbs up, John, because, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because you've got to understand that whole world, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah. For instance, I'm right now looking at a person who I know would hate this movie. Okay. In the next room is a guy, Charlie.
SPEAKER 04 :
You might love it.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, he'd hate it.
SPEAKER 04 :
He'd hate it too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Down the hallway, there's a guy named Luke who would love this movie. Oh, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. I get it.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I mean, you guys would have a totally different experience. So I'm going to go three stars just because it's really tough.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
The biggest problem is this. Even for the fans of Chainsaw Man who love the TV show, it's going to be really, it's way too slow for the first half. I don't care who you are. You got to get to the action quicker.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Way too much time spent on that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Makes sense.
SPEAKER 08 :
Political three, moral religious one and a half. Hey, he's a young guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm just saying. So obviously it's not very moral. It doesn't take any shots at Christianity, nothing like that. It's just, you know. He's a teenage boy. I get it. What can I say? So do I recommend going to Chainsaw Man, folks? If you like the... You're into that, right? Well, if you're into the show, obviously you want to see it. But if you like anime, I will tell you this, because there are a lot of anime fans listening right now. This is quality anime. It's very well done, some outstanding artwork. And if you can hang in there until the second half, you're going to see a lot of action, and that's really good. So for you folks, go to Chainsaw Man. For everybody else, absolutely not. You're going to be bored. There you go.
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. You didn't see the Springsteen movie, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not going to go see the Springsteen movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not going to watch The Communist?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I detest that man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I do too. That's one I have no desire to go see.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let me ask you this, John, because we've got a couple minutes here. Are there actors who have gotten to the point where their political activism has gotten so vicious that you don't even want to see them again, even though you used to enjoy them? De Niro was a good example.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, he was probably top of my list.
SPEAKER 08 :
It would be hard to see De Niro nowadays. The two girls who star in Wicked, which the sequel's coming out here in a month, They are so utterly hateful. You know, one is a lesbian and the other one is, you know, this child star. And both of them, you know, just rage against Trump, rage against MAGA, rage against me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I couldn't see that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, so that's going to be really tough for me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I couldn't watch that one either.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is there anybody for you?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I'd have to go through. There are... Yeah, I mean, I'd have to really sit down and look at it for a minute. And again, you never know when one of them is going to come up in a particular movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Jim Carrey doesn't make any movies anymore, but he did get to that point.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I was just going to say, that's a really great question. I guess I'd have to just really determine the movie and who's in it and is that somebody I really want to go see or not. But yes, for me, that is a factor, yes. yeah yeah i mean even even watching it on uh you know rental sides of the fence i mean yeah if it's if it's somebody like that i'm not renting it either one of my favorite actors ever who has become so offensive and i mean he goes to these rallies where they advocate violence against the right okay john cusack yeah and he used to be fun to watch
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, gosh, he's one of my favorite actors of all time, and he has just become absolutely repulsive. It actually takes the shine off watching an old movie with him. It's actually, you know, I still can do it. See, I'm more along the lines of...
SPEAKER 04 :
It has to be one of their really good movies for me to actually watch somebody like that. Right. Otherwise, if it's one of their kind of halfway, it's like, yeah, I can pass that one. I don't need to see that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I'll watch him in Con Air. I'll watch him in Identity, a couple of his rom-coms, which are really good. But overall, it's just like, man, Cusack, the thing is, you hate me so much. For voting for Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why would I give you any credit, you know, give you any money at all? Even a rental, I'm giving you money some way, somehow. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Jeff Bridges, you know, the dude. I mean, oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just vicious. This guy is actually singing songs about how much he hates Trump.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And stuff like that. Whoopi Goldberg.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. I mean. Now you just named one. Yeah. And I've been that way with her for a long, long time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I mean, I will say I love the movie with the nuns. I did.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sister Act? Is that what it's called? Yeah. I never saw it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the second one wasn't that good, but the first Sister Act was really very good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Yeah, she's one where I, you know, other than Ghost, don't know that I've really ever seen a movie with her in it because I can't stand her.
SPEAKER 08 :
She was hilarious in Ghost. But there again, she wasn't the main character. It's not the same.
SPEAKER 04 :
And she wasn't as wackadoodle-ish then.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 04 :
She was... She's gotten worse.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and, you know, people forget because Whoopi has become such a caricature of herself, right? She's become almost not a real person anymore. She's such an activist. But what they forget is this. She wasn't just a stand-up comic who did comedy. She was also a terrific actress. Okay, very, very talented. And then she just became so hate-filled that, you know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Ruined it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it does. It does with some of them. I mean, I'm trying to remember the guy that, yeah. I reviewed his movie last week, and I'm totally spacing him now. Anyway.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's all right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But some of them get to a point where it's just hard to watch anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So you said something earlier that I want to dovetail into because we don't talk a lot of politics on Friday. But what you said earlier just struck something with me where it's like, okay, that one needs a little further conversation on, and maybe we can get to a little bit more of it even on Tuesday. But when you talked about how a lot of movie stars that do their own editing – Right. Or, you know, produce a movie and then, you know, they're involved in the editing and they're involved some way, somehow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Where the film is their baby.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. They either edit, they either direct or they write or they write and direct where this film is their baby. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So my comparison is, maybe this is a stretch, but I don't think so. I think you'll catch on to what I'm going to say here in a second. Very similar to what a lot of political parties do, but now especially here in Colorado, our own Colorado GOP, again, not the whole party, but those that are really in charge of what candidates run and so on. OK, the Colorado GOP right now that's in charge of that is the movie maker that is doing is the actor that is making movies, that's doing their own editing because they see things in a much different way than what the actual market actually is at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Yeah. We've seen this. Like I said, the last three campaigns we had for governor. Right. And Beaupre and Heidi and I forget the other one. They all of them needed serious editing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then when you go further down to where you need to look at some of the local candidates that get pushed by the the Rhino Watchers of the world. Right. You talk about Rhino Watch running a candidate. Now it really is an actor making his own movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. The Rhino Watch, the Rhino Watch backed candidates. And I know, you know, we beat up on Rhino Watch all the time, folks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Rightfully so.
SPEAKER 08 :
Rightfully so, of course. But set that aside for a moment. I'm not being a hater here. I'm being honest, OK? Yeah. Rhino Watch and their candidates are very far divorced from the market.
SPEAKER 04 :
From reality, yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they can run in deep red districts, okay? They can run in deep red. And we have a few who are serving in the legislature, but that's okay. They're in deep red districts. I don't care, okay? But for the most part, then they go forth and they say, now we want our candidate to be running for CD this, CD that. I mean, major, you know, the U.S. House. the U.S. Senate, the governorship, and so forth. And you look at them and you're just like, guys, Scott Bottoms, wonderful guy. And he is basically the Rhino Watch candidate right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's their guy. He's one of a couple.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, you know, guys. You would have to edit out, you know, see, editor, you would have to edit out a lot of what he wants to say for him to have any chance to sell to the Colorado market. You don't understand the marketplace. You understand what's in your head and you understand what you like. And therefore, you want to take what's in your head and what you like and just put it out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good example.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Does the market want that?
SPEAKER 04 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
In most cases, the answer is no.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And you see that with a lot of movies that are written and directed by the actors.
SPEAKER 04 :
It just reminded me that a lot of times politics, especially conservatives, they will accuse Hollywood of doing this and doing that, and they're terrible, and they can't do this, and they can't do that. And it's like, well, you know, you're kind of mimicking what happens to – Some folks in Hollywood, when you look at the candidates that you want to run at the end of the day, because really at the end of the day, you're not any different than they are. The mindset is the same.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, you are demanding that the market like you and what you believe. Well, what if the market isn't where you are? Well, you're demanding it anyway. Well, isn't that the same complaint we have about Hollywood that's putting out this far left, just nutso stuff? And we say, they're ignoring us. They're ignoring the market. Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, let me give two examples. We were talking a break. And I'm going to give one left winger and one right winger. Okay. And these are actors who went on to produce and write. Rob Reiner.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
Clint Eastwood. Both of them set their egos aside and let themselves be edited, and they did a wonderful job. They became two of the best directors we have seen come out of Hollywood. Certainly, they came out of the acting rings.
SPEAKER 04 :
True.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wonderful. Can't argue that. Yeah, and you've got a total left-winger. I mean, Rob Reiner is crazy. Oh, geez, absolutely. Oh, yeah, he is. In my view, this is personal view, folks, but in my view, he's got serious issues.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, he's got some mental issues.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Clint obviously leans pretty solidly right. But anyway, but both of them, they did a fantastic job. Why? Because they set their egos aside. They said, everything that comes into my head does not have to go on to the film. And this is what a lot of candidates have to do. One last thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, boy, you just said it straight up right there.
SPEAKER 08 :
One last thing. I didn't know we were going to talk about this.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, no. It just came to my mind earlier.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or I would have brought out the, there's a clip right now of Tom Cruise talking about this. And it's wonderful. And Cruz, he came out against—he didn't come out against left or right. He came out against left and right. He said, leave the politics out of it.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it wasn't just because he was talking about the market and you're trying to sell. You can tell this man loves the market. He loves all people on both sides.
SPEAKER 04 :
He wants to entertain them all. It's like sports. Leave that out of it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not what that's designed for.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's actually designed to be the opposite. So are movies, by the way. It's designed— They should be designed to bring people together, not split them apart.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think Tom Cruise understands that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know who gets it, too? You know, Stallone. Now, Stallone's a right winger.
SPEAKER 04 :
He is. OK. But he understands his market.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but Stallone doesn't. Yeah, he comes out and he endorses Trump and he says, OK, I'm for Trump. But Stallone doesn't go on all the talk shows beating up the left.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. He doesn't bash everybody.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. No.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Great point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very low-key.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, and again, some of you that are listening that might be thinking about running for office or maybe you currently are running for office, all of your personal beliefs and what you want to see done, unfortunately, while that's great and it's admirable and I respect you for them, in a lot of cases, you need to shrink that all the way down to three or four points and essentially focus there and put all the other stuff that you've got in the back of your head aside.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and you know why John Rush knows that? Because John Rush knows marketing. Let me say this. We just had the no kings protest, which are ludicrous, of course. But when you are running to serve yourself and your needs and put forth what you want, then you're running to be a king. When you are running to serve the people... Then you're running in America.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you're going to listen to your market and you're going to talk to them and you're going to run towards them, not away from them. We've got so many candidates on our side of the aisle especially because, by the way, the left has figured this out better than we have. Okay. And mainly because their message doesn't change a whole lot. The left is the left is the left. Andy knows this better than anybody.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
But their message doesn't really change much and they don't have to go down different facets of things. And I'll just say it straight up. It's easier marketing-wise when you're on their side of the aisle than ours because – They own everything. They control it at this point in time, especially here in Colorado. So it's easy for them. Right. The left hasn't moved further left.
SPEAKER 08 :
They've become more open about it.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's all they've done. Now, those of us on the right, you know, we've got all sorts of things that we want to see. And it could be everything from somebody that's running for council to school board to a representative to you name it. And what happens is, and I see it because I've interviewed candidates over the years now for the past decade plus, you know, so many candidates, Andy, they will get some, I'm sorry to say it this way, some bug up their butt about something. That's why they ran in the first place, which that's great. That's admirable. I get it. You don't like whatever, you know, pick a topic. Right. You don't like X, Y, Z. So you're going to now run for office. Well, that's great. But, you know, you've got thousands, in some cases, tens of thousands of constituents that have to vote for you. And you know what? That might not be one of their hot topics.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah. And you're running to serve them.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not you.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're a public servant.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. You're not running for you. You're running for them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if you can't get them to understand that because all you're talking about is your pet peeve, that's not going to win an election.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, let me sum it up with this. Here is what I would like every single Republican out there who wants to run for office to do. I'm serious now. I'd like you to watch two movies. I'd like you to watch Rob Reiner's The Princess Bride. And I'd like you to watch Gran Torino by Clint Eastwood. And there are several more, but I'm just going to pick those two. And understand there is no agenda in either of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they're great movies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Even though, you know, Clint is playing a very politically incorrect character in that movie, there's actually no agenda.
SPEAKER 04 :
But he ends up being politically correct in the end.
SPEAKER 08 :
In a lot of ways, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
He really kind of redeems himself in the end.
SPEAKER 08 :
But he kind of brings it back to the middle because they also come to realize how good it is to have a tough guy like him around.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not such a bad thing after all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Well, Rob Reiner also does no agenda whatsoever in The Princess Bride. Now, folks, what I mean is this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Both of them have agendas, Rob Reiner especially.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're talking a far left wacko and a guy who leans pretty solidly right. Both of them set all their agenda aside, and what they did with those two movies is serve the public. They were public servants. And watch those movies and then apply that to your campaign.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, boy, so much to say along those lines because, unfortunately, so many candidates get, you know, I'm sorry to say, they get into races for probably the wrong reason. In other words, they want something they are disturbed about to be fixed, not what the market is disturbed about and needs to be fixed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they run on what they feel passionate about, not what the constituents are passionate about.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Do you want to be an activist or a public servant?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
What do you want to be? And that doesn't mean that you just do what everybody else wants. Bring yourself to it.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, question of the day. In The Empire Strikes Back, this is yesterday, the character seen running with what looks like an ice cream maker becomes a fan legend. What was he later named? It's Will Row Hood is the answer. Okay. Today's impossible question of the day. Name the place in India that is home to 20,000 rats believed to be descendants of an incarnation of the Hindu goddess Durga. Okay, there you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Obviously, I don't know. Can I be totally vicious and politically incorrect? Sure. Quite a religion you got there, guys. Come on, rats.
SPEAKER 04 :
No comment.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm sorry, but... All right, next hour.
SPEAKER 04 :
What are we doing?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, next hour, binge-watching. Hey, you got a Saturday afternoon to kill. You're sick at home, whatever, and you just want to binge-watch a show or some movies. Yeah, this could be movies or shows. What do you binge watch?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, thank you. It can be TV series, TV shows even, maybe some old TV shows where, you know what, nowadays you can watch the entire seasons, plural, if you want to go back and watch some of those. Those are the things that we're talking about, folks. So it doesn't have to be something even current. Whatever your favorite is, let us know. Text line 307-200-8222. We'll be back. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Average guys. Average guys.
In this episode of Ready Radio, hosts John Rush and Bill Anderson delve into the pressing issue of RV homelessness in Denver. The conversation unravels the complexities and unseen realities faced by many struggling individuals. From the precarious situations that lead here to the misconceptions surrounding homelessness, they address the importance of awareness and preparedness in avoiding such dire circumstances.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now.
SPEAKER 06 :
Here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. And it's Ready Radio, KLZ 560 on this fine Friday, October the 24th. Bill Anderson with me as well. Bill, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm doing well, John. How are you doing?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm good. Thanks for filling in last week. I appreciate it greatly. I corrupted all your listeners. I highly, highly doubt that. So, all right, always stuff to talk about. You sent me a video this week that I've watched the majority of. I kind of skipped ahead even on some of it because, as you know, some of those videos can get sort of monotonous. It's like, okay, yep, I get the drift. I'll move on to the next one. But this has to do with a RV homelessness crisis in Denver, which – I guess, I mean, I felt like I keep up on things pretty well, Bill, but I had no idea some of what I watched in this video was actually going on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and that's always the concerning thing with information these days is, you know, what is true news, what is true information versus what is made up. And, you know, after watching that video, I was trying to think, you know, because I drive through Denver quite a bit, and I was like, I don't think I've ever seen these, but, you know, Also, as the video made point, you know, they're not necessarily out there in the open. But driving on I-25 today around the Colfax area, around where the stadium and stuff is at, I did see a whole bunch of people on the side of the road off one of the roads off the highway there, you know, camping there. And it's like, oh, okay, well, I guess it is there. You know, and here's the thing that I really got out of that video is Again, we've got to take the information with a grain of salt. But just how people are really on that tipping point of whatever the event may be, John, loss of job, whatever, car breaks down, rent goes up, and they're just right on that razor's edge of going, oh, now I've just lost everything. And then you've got that perpetual downfall.
SPEAKER 06 :
Cycle.
SPEAKER 08 :
that this stacks up and this stacks up, and you just can't get caught up.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, this is a great topic, and I think the approach that I want to take on, and I'll get your opinion, but the approach I want to take is, okay, how do we help people to not get into that pattern in the first place? How do you avoid that cycle? And there might be some people even listening that have found themselves in that cycle. Okay, how do you get yourself dug out of that particular cycle? And again, my heart goes out to some of these people. I don't by any means, Bill, uh feel like all of these people are you know wanting to be in that situation or it's a lifestyle choice and there's a lot of homeless where that is the case but i i don't see this being uh you know that situation these are people and i think the the video is pretty accurate in describing some of these folks as you know if you were to actually see them at work or at school you might not even realize this is the life that they're living because they're doing the best they can to try to disguise that and try to make things even for their family be as normal as possible. And I get that. And I'm not trying to be, you know, you know, speak down upon these individuals at all. Rather, you know, how do we how do we maybe help them if there's any of them that are listening, get out of that. And then on the same token, if we've got listeners that are listening that maybe are a little bit on that edge, how do you get yourself out of that position in the first place? Again, this is the preparedness show. This is the Ready Radio program. You know, be ready for the what-ifs of life. And some of that, to your point, could be, okay, you lost your job. Now what?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Yeah, and I think that's an eye-opening thing as well. You know, often when we throw that term homeless out there, we think of the, you know, the bum on the street pushing the shopping cart. Right. And it's like, you know, there's a lot of people out there that, you know, wouldn't give the appearance of it. That's right. To your point, because they're doing the best they can. They don't want to be there.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, they don't.
SPEAKER 08 :
But for whatever reason, you know, they've got to live in their car. They've got to live in this. You know, actually, you probably, if you ask around... You know, there's probably more people than you think at one time in their life have done that. You know, there's even famous actors who have stories of, hey, I was living in my car. Lots of comedians. I was living in my car, you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've known some people along those lines, Bill, where, you know, I look at them and really my first thing is, you know, Lord bless you. I mean, you did something that, you know, I've done everything I possibly can in my life to never be there. But, wow, I mean, it got, you know, hats off to actually being able to do that and make it and get yourself back on your feet and, you know, move forward because that would not be an easy task at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And the other thing in that video that really kind of, you know, opened my eyes a little bit and, you know, not to say that we didn't realize it, but, you know, brought back into awareness was the story of that retired gentleman who, you know, worked all his life, paid his house off and retired from his job thinking, hey, my house is paid off. I'm good. Right. And then all of a sudden the developers around him started developing the area and then his property taxes went above what he could afford on his fixed income. Right. You know, and that's something that, hey, we're all facing at some point. You know, there's probably going to be, you know, for the most people, there's probably going to be a point where, you know, you can't go out and work physically. I mean, I guess you could always be a greeter at Walmart or whatever. But, you know, and, you know, we say that kind of tongue-in-cheek. We say that in jokes sometimes. But you know what? If you don't take care of yourself, that's going to be you. You know, and you're going to be doing – They're retired and for whatever reason, you know, didn't get enough put away and ended up having to go work at a Safeway. And he's like, I work all week long and I bring home, I can't even, you know, pay my grocery bills with what I bring home because they pay so little and everything costs so much, you know? And yeah, we could go back and go shoulda, coulda, woulda. And the point of this situation is, you know what? It's that when's the best time to plant a tree? 20 years ago? Yeah, we didn't do that. So the best time is today. So let's figure out what we can start doing today to get something put away. Because even if you think you maintain a standard of life, just with the projection, the trajectory, I should say, of inflation, if you put your money in the bank, your money, you're losing money because the interest rate isn't as high as the inflation. And so therefore... You know, it doesn't stay the same. I mean, sometimes it's right there. But the point is, is things are coming up substantially. The cost of things are coming up substantially, but the pay isn't going up substantially. And I don't want to get into that. Well, let's raise minimum wage because that's not the answer either, because everything will maintain. You know, proportional. Okay, well, if you raise the minimum raise, if you raise the pay rate of the guy working at Burger King, well, your Whopper's going to go up. I mean, people don't understand that simple math. That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and so let's back up for a minute. I think something you just said a moment ago is, you know, let's plant a tree. and you're prepared 20 years later because you've already planted the tree. Well, a lot of folks haven't, so they're trying to figure out, okay, how do I, you know, now something's happened. There's been some sort of a tragedy, emergency, or whatever. And the one thing that was in this video that it just always comes to my mind, and again, folks, please be aware of what I'm going to say now. I'm not trying to be rude or mean to anybody, okay? This is not the case, Bill. But I have been self-employed my entire adult life. I have never, even until this day, worked a 40-hour week job. I still work far more than 40 hours even today. Don't have to, but I do work. It's just me, Bill. It's intrinsic, I think, to who I am. But at the end of the day, I've never worked a 40-hour-a-week job. And so this particular video talks about how this is why it's hard for people to make ends meet. And they base everything off of an X amount per hour. The average wage in Denver, $24 an hour, 40 hours a week. They do the math. And at the end of the day, there's not enough to go around. Yeah, so go work two of those. And again, I'm not trying to judge or be rude, but go work two of those if you have to. You can work an 80-hour a week and still have plenty of time for all of the other quote-unquote luxuries of life if you can afford it at that point. And I'm not even factoring Sundays into that. You can work an 80-hour a week, have all day Sunday off, still have time during the week for the rest of your family. And granted, sometimes that means there's not a lot of family time. Been there, done that, Bill. So have you. That's what self-employed individuals do at times. And my point is... Don't let yourself get in that position where you can't make ends meet because you're not working enough, is my point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And, you know, we don't even have to go as extreme as saying getting 240 hour a week jobs. Right. We could say, hey, it doesn't matter. Just get multiple streams of income, whatever it may be. You know, I mean, even if I. you know, start a little side business of selling whatever my hobby is or whatever. Listen, here's the thing, John, everybody wants a prescription, but here I can't, I can't give you a prescription because I don't know your skills. I don't know your physical capabilities, your mental capabilities. And here at the end of the day, stop making excuses and go FSO, as far as saying in our family, go figure something out. Right, right.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, you bring up a great point. And, and I can't tell someone what a secret is either, mainly because, again, to your point, I don't know what your strengths and weaknesses are. I don't know what you're good at. And I do know this, that we live in a day and age now with technology and the ability to learn almost anything that's out there. And Bill, do it for relatively little. I mean, I always say, you know, you can't say no cost because even an internet connection is costing you money, but relatively inexpensively, you can pretty much learn anything. And the other thing that I know that a lot of, you know, that happens to a lot of folk is, you know, by the way, myself included, because we do this continually, what do you have kicking around the house you no longer need that you can turn into cash?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, right. Start looking at what is a liability, because if it's a liability... you know, get rid of it, turn that liability into an asset if you can, you know, and I get, cause you and I kind of have the same philosophy in, in savings, by the way, sometimes it's not necessarily cash in the bank. But sometimes it's tangible things. I think there's something to be said with that of, hey, I've got this whatever it may be item that I'm investing in and I'm getting use out of it. It's making me money. Let's just call it a tool. And I'm using it to produce. And then there may be a day that comes along where, hey, I can turn that into a bartering or I can even sell it. Yeah, I'm not going to get top dollar for it. But guess what? It's earned its life through whatever I've used it for. And I've gotten a little something out of it in the end. So, you know, sometimes don't think you need cash in the bank. Right. Good point. Great point. And tangible things could be considered an investment.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now that we're along those lines, here's an idea for everybody listening. And this is something that very, very few people end up doing. They might do it mentally, but I doubt very seriously, Bill, if anybody ever does. sits and actually makes a list of this, and they should. You're in a position where you're thinking, man, things are going okay, but there's not a lot of money left over. There's more month than there is money. We're making it, but one little thing, and you know what? We could be upside down. If you're listening and you're one of those individuals like we're talking about, here's the first thing. By the way, I think everybody should do this, Bill, is get a legal pad out. and start writing down on one side of the page, what are all your strengths? What are the things that you actually are good at, that you know what to do, things that you're capable of doing, and so on. And then on the other side, write the things down that, frankly, you're not really good at. And there's no sense masking that. If you're not good at finances, for example, then don't say that you are. If you're not good at fixing things, then don't say that you are. In other words, go through that list and determine, okay, what are the things that I'm really good at, and let me build upon those strengths rather than me trying to fix a weakness. Because when you're really trying to To move that football forward, Bill, there's no time to focus on the weaknesses. You've got to build on the strengths. And there's a great book, by the way, a great book called Strengths Finders that even talks about this. You don't have time to build on the weakness. You've got to focus on the strength at that point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that because I just had a conversation with a fellow pastor this morning, and I told him, I said, you know, sometimes on Sunday I'm up in the pulpit and I'm looking there going, hey, John's not here today. Oh, you know, Bob didn't show up. Oh, you know, I haven't seen Susie in a while. And it would consume me because I'm sitting there pulling out three or four people that I haven't seen. And, you know, the Lord spoke to me and said, Bill, stop worrying about those that aren't here and worry about the ones that are there. So that kind of is your point, right? You know, sometimes we worry about things. It goes back to what I talked about last week when you were gone, things we can't control versus things we can. We get hyper-focused on some of those bad things. And, you know, you're sitting on a goldmine with things you can do. And here's another thought. Let's say I am a little weak. Let's say I'm not very good at fixing cars or small engines or something like that. Hey, go knock on your local repair shop and be like, hey, I want to learn. I'll come for free. Let me just spend some Saturdays with you, you know, and you show up. And maybe the first couple Saturdays, the guy's like, you know what? You're actually pretty good help. Here's $100, and you're learning something, and nobody can take that away from you. And now, John, I've acquired a skill, and now maybe, hey, no, fix the neighbor's lawnmower for $100 or whatever it may be.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great idea.
SPEAKER 06 :
Great idea. The other thing, too, for basics, and this is another thing where I know folks will do budgets and not do budgets and so on, and I would highly suggest that if you're somebody that really is on the edge, You've got to do a budget. You've got to sit down and say, okay, what are we actually, at the end of the day, spending money on? And this is where it's got to be written out. And I get it. You're like, listen, John, I already know what we're spending money on because I see it. Okay, still write it out. I mean, the entire family needs to be involved in this, kids included. What are you spending money on? And by the way, you know... Living proof. You don't have to have cable TV, satellite TV, you know, all of the 15 dozen, you know, subscription services that are out there, so on and so forth. I mean, the reality is, Bill, you can live on darn near an Internet connection alone and get about every bit of information you need. And even entertainment, entertainment for that matter, if that's what you're looking for, which, by the way, if you're in this position where you're really trying to make ends meet, there's no time for entertainment anyways. And I'm not trying to be again, not trying to be rude to people, Bill, but that's that's the brass tacks. That's the fact.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and you can shift your focus, right? So, you know, there's plenty of sources out there. I mean, even any more, shoot, there's plenty of videos on YouTube that you can just watch for free. Correct. You know, and watch those.
SPEAKER 06 :
And my point, even with some of those folks, is really look at, you know, Again, I know this bill because of helping people throughout the years inside the church, outside the church, in my businesses, and so on. And it never failed that folks that were really struggling, I would look and say, okay, well, you know, let's look at where you're at even with your vehicle, for example. You know, do you really need the vehicle that you own? In other words, maybe there's a way to downsize that. in said vehicle or downgrade maybe is a better way to say that not necessarily size depending upon your family but downgrade in other words do you need to be buying you know or do you need to be driving that five-year-old vehicle or could you go to a 15-year-old vehicle and still be better you know still be have the same mode of transportation when it's all said and done but therefore save a bunch of money because you might have car payments on that five-year-old vehicle Again, I don't know everybody's situation, Bill, and not trying to be accusatory, but I've known throughout the years, and I've tried to help some people along these lines, and one of the first things you look at is, okay, it even talked about in that video on this homelessness or this RV homeless crisis that some of these people have car payments, and I'm thinking, okay, if you're in that position, You shouldn't. I mean, at the end of the day, you should not have a car payment. Whatever you need to do to get out from underneath that thing to where you don't have a car payment is what you need to do because if you're on the edge, you should not have a car payment, period.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I think people feel trapped because they're like, well, if I give up my car, now I can't get to work. I've got to have my car. So they'll justify that car payment because they've got to get to work or whatever instead of exploring other options. Can I buy a junker? And yeah, in our business, and you know this, You've yelled at me for this on many occasions, but we don't have new vehicles because especially trade people, they don't take care of them. And so we buy old cars. We pay cash for them. We buy them for $5,000, $6,000. And yeah, I do have to take them to the shop to get repairs and things like that because they're worn out. But you know what? I think at the end of the day, the cost of the repairs versus the cost of a $500, $600, $700 a month car payment, which I'm going to ultimately have repairs on anyway because the technicians beat them up so much, I think I come out in the end.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that's a great point. And for everybody that's listening, you have to make some of these decisions on your own. My point with a lot of these folks where, and again, not saying that in this video because I don't know individuals, I don't know where they're coming from and so on, but I do know that there's times where I've had, face-to-face, one-on-one conversations with folks, and you start mentioning some of the things where you just know you could be better off by doing X, Y, Z, but there's 101 excuses as to why you need to drive that fancy Suburban.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and you've got to sort it out, too, because I've heard the other side of the argument. Hey, if you buy a new truck and you go out there and you know it's going to fire every time, then you've got somebody on the road versus a broke-down truck, and now the guy on the road making money.
SPEAKER 06 :
And for business owners, that one I fully understand, but when you're trying to scrape enough money by to feed your family, that one doesn't hold as much water in that case, Bill.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I don't think so, especially where you live. If you live downtown... You can pretty much get anywhere, really, in the metro area, you know, through public transport. Yes, there's some safety concerns. But at the end of the day, John, you have to kick the excuses out, and you've got to start figuring stuff out. Because those excuses and that way of thinking is probably what's got you there to begin with. You can't have the same thinking and expect a different result.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. Okay, great segue. That's a perfect spot. We'll come right back. All of you listening, feel free to text in as well with your thoughts and ideas. 307-282-22. You can call us as well. 303-477-5600. We'll be right back again. It's Ready Radio. Bill's website, by the way, is prep2protectco.com. We'll come right back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. And again, talking about really what started all of this, Bill, was a video that you had sent me talking about how bad the homelessness slash RV thing in our area has gotten. And some of you may... may have seen some of this, maybe not, but these are RVs where they're not even in the same place constantly because most of the city codes won't allow them. So these are individuals where they're moving these around. It's why you, Bill, might not notice some of these. You might see an RV park someplace for a couple of days because that's about all the more they can, 72 hours they get towed. And so in a lot of cases, Bill, you'll see them stay maybe one night, two nights, and then they're off to a another location. And again, you know, heart goes out to these individuals and we don't want to see people get there. And I just feel like and I get it. There's always, you know, extenuating circumstances. Bill, at times I just wonder, OK, if if when things were going better and you had a job and income and so on, and if you were putting like the Dave Ramsey approach, some some cash aside. So if something happened, you've got something to fall back on. You know, if you were doing some of those basic things, you probably probably wouldn't find i'm not saying it's a guarantee but you probably wouldn't find yourself in that position right now yeah at least not not that far deep right because when something comes up you'll have some kind of buffer there well well or you've you've got other options i mean if you've got a little bit of a cushion and you know well i mean i just lost my job we've got a couple you know we we did the the dave ramsey approach we've got three months of salary put away and i'm going to hurry up and see if i can't find another job really quick But if all of a sudden you don't find one here locally, and this is where I think, and again, I can't tell people what to do, Bill, neither can you. But, you know, maybe this isn't the best place for you. Maybe there are other places where you might be able to go find a job and even take the rest of that little nest egg that you've got and live for half of what you're spending here in Colorado. And maybe that's a choice that you really mean. I get it. Colorado is great. It's a great place to live. It's beautiful. All those things. But it's expensive also, Bill.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And I get, you know, situations like, you know, even a personal situation, you know, go back to the seventies with my mom and dad and, you know, when they got a divorce, My dad had some hard times there, but he wasn't willing to leave because he didn't want to leave me. I get that, too. I get that. Mom had custody, and he got to see me on the weekends. But here's another thing. I've talked to a lot of people that have lost their jobs, and they're coming to me, especially in the church and stuff. They're like, it's getting tight. And I'm like, well, have you gone to Walmart? Have you gone to Safeway? Have you gone to the gas station? Oh, I can't. I'm not going to take a job for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and that's kind of what we're talking about right now, Bill, and this is my fear is I think there are times where folks may very well have that attitude. In fact, that's in a situation where I would say, you know, I probably go apply both because some of those run 24-7, meaning – You know, you could work one shift at one place and another shift at another place. And now you're you know, now you at least got a 60, 70 hour a week income. And you know what? It may not be wonderful, but if you had to do that for six months, that may be what it takes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or even if you take an after-hours job because you still need the daytime to apply for your chosen profession. People throw that stuff out there, John, and they just lack the want to. And here's what I would say the reality of the situation is, is people have become so dependent on expecting the government. Well, I've got employment. I've got this. I've got that. I'm going to find a job. And it's like you ain't guaranteed nothing. And that's where you've got to take control of your life and stop worrying about what everybody else is doing and what you know, who's in the office and what's... At the end of the day, you've got to survive, and you've got to do the things that you can do to survive.
SPEAKER 06 :
And dovetailing into that, which this is the other side of this equation, by the way, the other side of the coin here, folks, is the better you are... at learning the things that we're talking about right now, that Bill and I are talking about, if and when some big event does come along to where, wow, this is sort of an end of the world, you know, this is a whole game changer, big EMP powers out, you know, there's at least half the population that probably is gone in a very short amount of time. Okay. You're one of those people that really did figure out, how am I going to make ends meet and make things work? Well, guess what? You'll be one of those survivors that figure that out at that time as well. Bill, if you're somebody that's entitled and you're just expecting something to come to you, you'll be one of the 50% that doesn't make it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and then that... presents a whole other new set of circumstances, doesn't it, John? Because now I've got everything to take care of my family, but now everybody still has that same mentality. So they're coming to my house thinking I'm going to give it up. I need to give it to them. they deserve it.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. If you think the entitlement mentality is bad now, Bill, wait until something like I just mentioned, and I don't know if it's going to happen. It may, it may not. I have no idea. I don't have a crystal ball. But let me tell you what, if in fact that does happen, those folks that are entitled, there's one thing I think all the authors of the books that I read and listen to have right is that entitlement mentality increases.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I was just going to follow up with that as well. Every book I've listened to, there's always the mob mentality of we deserve.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that is one thing. It's funny, Bill. All these authors, and they all come from different walks of life and so on. It's funny, though, that is the one common theme. They all have different angles and different things that happen and different stories with the folks that are in them and so on. But there's one common theme, and that's what we just said. That one doesn't change from any of those books.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Right. And you know, here's the other thing. We just did a couple of training sessions with our church and you know, everybody wants to do the gun stuff and all this. And I said, okay, we're going to set up a scenario and no guns are allowed. And they're like, well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I says, you know what guys, we always go to the extreme. You know, we're talking church security. We're talking scenarios. We're talking this. And you guys instantly think, Oh, active shooter, big mass casualties. And it's like, Statistically speaking, that's probably not going to happen to us. But what is going to happen to us? You know, these more common things. Somebody's going to get upset about what I said. Somebody's going to be upset. Maybe it's a struggling marriage, and the guy wants to come get his kid out of the Sunday school, and mom's got bites, and there's restraining orders, and all these things. And my point is, it might not be an EMP, John. It might not be a doomsday apocalypse. On one of the shows I covered for you, I talked about the future of AI. And they're saying that AI has the potential of replacing 30% of the job force by around 26%, 27%. Do you understand that 30 percent is greater than the Great Depression?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's huge. And there'll be a shift and some will, you know, acquire jobs in AI and things along those lines. But I'm here to tell you, Bill, and I talk about this on The Daily Program, you need to be proactive in this particular area and determining that, wait a minute, if I've got a job that's highly susceptible to, you know, and losing it to AI, for example, and if that's me, wow, I probably ought to be figuring out, do I have enough set aside? Could I, if I'm older, can I retire? Can I live on what I would have coming in right now? Are there things I need to do to maybe position myself to be a little bit better along those lines? Is there other skills I could be learning right now while I still have income and a job? Is there something else I could add to the skill set that I currently have? Again, going back, Bill, to the legal pad I mentioned earlier, writing out all the things that you're good at or not good at. Okay, what are some of the things that now that you're working and do have income, what are things you can shore up on so that if, in fact, that day comes, you're ready for it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and every time we have this conversation, people say, oh, well, I've got an AI-proof job. I'm a tradesperson, or I've got something the AI can't replace. I say, you're missing the point. Do you understand that 70% of the U.S. economy is on consumer spending? So if you've lost 30% of the job force, what has that done to the 70% of the consumer spending? You may be an electrician, which I am, but people can't afford you. They'll go with the lights out. So don't think that you're going to keep plugging along like normal. All of a sudden, now people can't pay for your services. And then you've got people that will come in and do your things for a lot cheaper than you. So, John, everybody is going to have to make some type of a shift, right? And this is where the legal pad... You're writing down what you can do, what you're good at, what you're bad at. But then you also start to need to write down, hey, what can I start self-producing? I talk about this all the time. Everybody can produce something as ways of garden, right? Maybe you don't have a garden space. You can get like what I have, the indoor tower garden. You get what you have. You've got the sprout microgreen thing. You learn how to grow in pots. You know what? Learn how to grow something and get good at it and start replacing the dependency. that you have on, quote, the economy, going to the store, going to here. Start looking at my life going, I can provide for myself. I can produce. Here's how you sum it up, John.
SPEAKER 06 :
start looking at how you can stop being a consumer and start being a producer for the needs of your life great point great point and again what we're trying to accomplish with today is the whole video of people living in their motor homes their their vehicles in some cases in trying to survive and again our hearts going out to them but trying to get those that are listening that maybe are already there, or maybe there are some folks listening that aren't that far from there. And hopefully, Bill, the majority of our audience is never going to be there. I mean, I really hope that's the case, although we have a large listening audience and people come from every single walk of life. And I guarantee you we've got some folks listening that are wondering, okay, wait a minute, I'm really on that. really paycheck to paycheck basis right now. And sometimes the paycheck, you know, the month outlasts the paycheck, in other words. And I'm struggling. Credit card debt is up, you know, things along those lines. You know, we've supplemented as a family, you know, in other ways. And yeah, I really need some help along these lines. And I'm just trying to be, to all of you that are listening, I'm trying to be as truthful as I possibly can, because the one thing that And I know the assistance is out there, but I guess for me, Bill, personally, I've always been one of those individuals that I don't want to hand out from anybody. I am going to figure this out on my own, no matter what it takes, because I don't want to live by the golden rule, meaning the guy with the gold rules. I want to be the guy in charge, and I'm not taking any assistance from anybody. I'm going to figure this out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, and remember what assistance means, right? It's giving me a hand up so that I can get back on my feet. It's not for me to live under. That's one side of it. But the other side of it is, you know, if everything does kind of go down, And there's not just you in the situation, but the whole community, the whole city, the whole state, the whole country is in that situation. Assistance ain't going to help you none because there's no assistance for everybody.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, if that's what you've been relying on in your life and something major really happens, and again, Bill, it could be a natural disaster. It could be a huge event that we have here along the tri-state, quad-state region that folks listen to us in. We have any number of things that happen along those lines. Do you have what it takes to survive no matter what? Because if you're going to rely on so-and-so to come and bail you out, well, guess what? That so-and-so might not be there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because they're bailing themselves out or they're bailing their own family out. And I guarantee you, yeah, I love our police, our fire, but you know what? When it comes down to their family versus your family, if they're in the same boat, they're taking care of their family.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I've said that numerous times, Bill. I think even before... having you involved with the program, you talk about some of those end of, I hate to say end of the world, but some of those large scenarios where our power grid is taken down or something along those lines. Yeah, emergency services, they'll be around for a little bit until they all start realizing that, oh, wait a minute, this power thing is a big deal and it's not coming back on. I got my own family I ought to go take care of. At the end of the day, you might have a few single people that are running around, Bill, that don't have families that might be willing to help some folk out. But that's going to be a small percentage of all of the emergency services that are out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And, you know, we're living in this situation right now, John. I don't know if you realize this or not, but there's a lot of people that are living in this situation with a shutdown and not getting their checks. They'll get back pay, but how long can you float? How long can you sustain? you know, until that back check comes, you know, I mean, I've done several jobs here in the past, people who were furloughed from the, you know, air traffic controllers and stuff, because they're like, hey, I'm at home, I might as well get this stuff done, you know, whatever, they're spending money on me fixing things, that's a whole nother topic, versus, you know, I guess you're pretty positive we're going to come back, you know, and we should be, right, they'll figure it out eventually, but he's like, yeah, I mean, I haven't gotten a check, I'll get it eventually, but you know, hey, if I didn't have money, you know, in the bank or, you know, food in the pantry or whatever.
SPEAKER 06 :
And to that person's credit, they're at least looking ahead saying, wait a minute, okay, I've got an opportunity. I've got some time right now where I wouldn't normally have this to get some of these things done. And no, I can't do anything myself, but I probably need to get this stuff done no matter what. Yes, I've got that check coming. And yeah, probably will at some point. We all know that's probably going to be, it's going to happen. It's not going to be that much further down the road, by the way, it'll get figured out. So At the end of the day, by the way, I don't think that's being unwise on their part. They're figuring out, wait a minute, I have some time. I've got the ability to do some things right now. I'm managing that time well. Let's get it done. Kudos to them, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and again, we can't impose our own standards. thoughts or feelings into the situation. I don't know what that guy's circumstances have, you know, heaven knows he could have $30,000 in the bank and be fine, you know, for, for a while, but I don't know. I can't, I can't assume what his situation is, but you know, that's, that's the point. You know, a lot of people are like, Hey, I got two weeks worth of food. I'm good. It's like, well, I don't know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Maybe you need three or four or five or six or more. Yeah. No, it just comes down to, you know, as we talk constantly, you know, as we, we talk on this program a lot, Bill, Taking inventory, knowing where you're at, making sure that you're dialed in, knowing if you've got some hiccups that come along, you've got the ability to handle that. And I think, again, going back to how do you avoid that whole scenario of having to live out of your RV or live out of your car, go buy a cheap RV because you can't afford rent and things like that. Okay, how do you avoid all of those things? um i'll just tell you straight up bill and i don't know any other way to say this in a nice way it takes it's a four-letter word it's called work w-o-r-k meaning you got to outwork the guy next to you so that you don't find yourself in that particular situation those of you that work for others even with ai coming along make yourself invaluable to the company that you work for do whatever you need to do to do the extra things to go the extra mile so that they see you for what you are you know and i can't stress that enough bill because I don't think, frankly, and I mean this as sincerely as I can, even among Christians that are listening to us right now, I don't think most people do that, Bill.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, they don't. They don't. And you know what, John? I even find myself, you know, sitting on the couch going, oh, it's been a long day. I'm just going to sit here and watch TV, and there's like, man, there's so many things I could be doing right now. I could be doing this. I could be doing that. And you've got to also walk in wisdom here, right? I mean, the Lord said rest. I mean, we understand theologically that we rest in Christ right now, but there's wisdom in, hey, don't work yourself to death, right? Take a break and reset a little bit. But But I can even find myself, you know, getting into that. And, you know, it's interesting because, you know, an object of motion stays in motion. An object of rest stays at rest. And it's like, yeah, you got to keep going. You got to keep going. So what do you do, John? You look at, you know, your situation. You look at your current needs. You look at all these things. You take an inventory of your life. And I always tell people this. I just taught it on Thursday. I said the number one self-defense that you have is situational awareness. Listen. Be aware of your situation. Here's what I have. Here's what I don't have. Here's what I need. Here's what I really don't need. Start taking inventory of it. And then in the Bitcoin world, they talk about stacking stats, which means, hey, you know, you're just adding to your portfolio a little bit every day. Like, for example, I have $5 every day that pulls out of my bank account and buys, you know, a milli fraction of a Bitcoin. But you know what? You look at the end of the month going, oh, wow. Hey, you know, and then the next month and the next month, all of a sudden you got $2,000 in there and you didn't even really miss it. You know, maybe you didn't go to Starbucks and buy that $8 coffee or whatever. But going back to the principle of that is now I start stacking stats and every day I better my position little by little, little by little. If I'm going to take the beach, John, I'm going to take it little by little. I'm not going to go in there and Take the whole thing in one day, right? That's how we win a battle. That's how we win the war. Little skirmishes, little battles, little battles, little skirmishes, and then ultimately you win the war. So you take that inventory. You've got to be situationally aware as to your life, your lifestyle, what you can fix, what you can't fix, what you can improve, what you can improve, what you can get rid of, what you can add. And then start going, okay. Little by little, I'm going to start doing it. I'm going to start doing it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, that's exactly how you need to handle things. Okay, let's do this. We'll take a break. Oh, sorry, Charlie said we can't take a break right now, so we'll keep rolling along. Okay, let's shift gears here just for a second. I sent you an article about somebody that had passed away, and not a good scenario, somebody that was even going to be a new dad, that's all he wanted to be in life, and so on, and at the end of the day was punched from behind. I didn't read the entire article, Bill, but that is not a good situation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, not good. You know, a lot of times people, again, we'll go back to that same conversation I had with the church. Right? We're training gun stuff. We're training shooting stuff. Statistically speaking, you're more likely to get sucker punched. You're more likely to get stuck by a screwdriver, hit with a blunt force object such as a hammer or a bat or a stick than you are to get shot or stabbed. You know, as we see life developing before our eyes, those statistics are changing a little bit. People are becoming more bold with what they're doing. But still, at the end of the day, you're probably more likely to have to deal with that. So again, observation situational awareness man is something we can practice all day long get your head up look around start noticing people start knowing what they're doing and you know what like we talked several weeks ago about if I'm getting worked up in a situation hey let's work our de-escalation I don't need to get into a fight is it worth it whatever was said and I don't know the story I don't know what what brought to this I don't know if there was some kind of an argument I have no idea But let's just say that there was. Did it need to get, I push you, you push me, I say this, you say that. At the end of the day, I end up getting hit and losing my life. Was it really worth that? You know, for that ego of I'm right, or I'm going to push you, or I'm going to, you know, whatever I'm going to do to you, I'm going to get my point across. It's not worth it. It really isn't worth it. And people can say you're a coward or whatever. But listen, those who walk in confidence, They're not really cowards. It's called meekness. The Bible calls it meekness, which is power under control, John. Power under control.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, absolutely. And we've got to learn that. Absolutely. All right, we'll come back. I want to follow up with some of that as well. Don't go anywhere, guys. Ready Radio, it's ready-radio.com. Bill's website, Prep, the number two, prep2protectco.com. We'll be right back.
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All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Bill Anderson. Bill, really quick, too, before we continue on, let folks, again, know what you've got coming up when it comes to classes and things like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, our classes are pretty much done for the year, John, because we do all of our training outside, and with the weather coming in, it's pretty hard to do stuff outside, even though in my old Army days, if it ain't raining, you ain't training. But we don't do that to people. So we do have some what we call level three. It's really not named correctly because you don't have to do level one and level two to do level three. But we do have that level three, which is scenario based training. We take the church that I pastor at and we actually turn it into a shoot house and we run lots of scenarios, restaurant scenes, church scenes. home invasions, and we talk about what to do, how to handle those, room clearing. We do all of that. And then we actually allow you to go through that scenario with green gas airsoft. So you're actually shooting the airsoft that have protected people. They're padded up and everything, but you're actually experiencing that. So we do have that coming over the course of the winter, and then we also run arms. stop the bleed, and BLS classes through the American Heart Association. Awesome. Because I think those two go, you know, 90 seconds, everybody suffers from, not everybody, but every 90 seconds, there's somebody suffers from cardiac arrest. So, again, going back to that statement I made before, you're probably more likely to need a first aid or a, you know, life-saving device something life saving to somebody before you're ever going to get in a fight with somebody or shoot somebody.
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Okay. So going back to this particular situation, this story, not situation, this story where, uh, this particular, uh, by the way, not a very old, uh, uh, man, not, not you and I, by the way. So not, not an old man by any stretch of the imagination. So in this particular case, um, again, one, almost a new dad, wife, uh, fairly along. There's a picture of the wife and he with, uh, her pregnancy and so on. So this isn't something where, you know, he's an old guy like us walking along and then gets, you know, hit from behind, Bill. This is something that, again, you know, A, shouldn't be happening, but B, this didn't happen to – Not that it would even be any different if it was somebody that was our age, but I guess what I'm trying to get at here is, you know, people think, well, you know, I'm young, I'm vibrant. Why would anybody do this to me? This guy's 29 years of age, Bill. This isn't somebody that is, again, he's not 69 or 59, 29 years of age. Most people wouldn't think about this being 29 years old, but he was blindsided from behind. This is in Arizona, by the way, not here in Denver, but still in Arizona, Old Town Scottsdale, and died from his injuries. I mean... This is the kind of stuff that, and I don't know, this is what I'm bringing you in as the expert. How do you keep something like this from happening?
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Well, is there more information? I didn't have a chance. You texted me while we were on the show.
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It says there's five suspects that they're looking for. It doesn't say exactly if there was any kind of a motive or anything along those lines. Basically, they were walking along, him and his wife, and it was 10 o'clock at night, basically. They'd gone to a baseball game, and... Looks like they must have been downtown for a little while. So it was 2 a.m., which my dad always said nothing good happens after midnight. But regardless, they were waiting for an Uber to pick them up. It was raining. The crowds were kind of huddled together. So they weren't alone, by the way. It wasn't just two people walking alone. They were with other people. And as TJ and his friends kept walking, the woman and four of her male friends followed them. So there were five people and I guess attacked them from behind unknowingly and I guess a punch to the head and he's dead.
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Yeah. So even in that situation, you know, there was no previous altercation or nothing leading up to it. It sounds like it was ambush. And, and by the way, you know, 90% of robberies happen ambush style, 30 to 50% of assaults happened ambush style. So it kind of goes back to, you need to know where you're at. You need to know your current situation. You need to be situationally aware. um you know i don't know the circumstances kind of like you said i don't imagine any baseball game that would require me to be out after you know two o'clock in the morning most games are not that late um obviously they they probably you know did other things you went to a bar or whatever i don't know what they did but you know right there you start questioning knowing where we live right if you know you live in tornado alley then you know that there's a pending tornado so if i and going to a downtown area at night, late at night, I know there could be trouble. So if I choose to put myself in that situation, then I'm definitely going to be on the more alert side and staging myself and things like that to prevent that as much as possible. So you can't live in a bubble, but you can also choose where you go and ask yourself that question. Is me going to the bar? Is me going... to this party is me going to this event. Is it worth it? You really got to ask yourself. And again, you know, it's, that's such a hard thing, John, because people will hear that as, Oh, just, you're telling everybody just to stay locked up in their houses, saying that, but if you are going to go know your situation, right? Pre-planned your routes, pre-planned what you're doing. Could he have brought something with him? Arizona is a pretty conservative state. I know you could have had something with you. Could you have done something to force multiplier? And even if you just go down to that water bottle and that flashlight, I don't know. Could there have been something done? I don't know. Ambush style to me, though, says that he probably wasn't paying attention. I don't know. I don't know, John. I can't. I can't give you a definite because the number one self-defense answer is it depends.
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And according to the rest of the – as you were talking, I read a little bit more in depth into the story. And for all of you listening, this story – I just saw this story before coming on here so I can get a chance to read everything word for word. Evidently, it was him and some of his friends. And they were walking along this other group of five were, I guess, walking the opposite direction. One of not him, but one of the guys bumped the lady that were the girl that was actually with these other five. And nothing really happened at that point. Everybody went along their way. And you know how things are. You can kind of bump into somebody. You know, I don't think anybody doesn't sound like anybody did anything intentionally, but evidently the other five did. didn't like what happened, and that's when they followed these other individuals and then punched this guy in the head from behind, and nobody even knew that was even happening at that point. That part of the story is pretty clear.
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Yeah, so we don't know if, hey, sorry, I didn't mean to bump into you guys. Hey, have a good night. Hope you had fun tonight. I mean, something like that could have happened, or, hey, you bumped into me. Sorry, you were taken up. Again, we don't know the details, right, because those are two things major conversations that's going to lead that into two different ways right even if i just look at you like what's your problem why'd you walk into me and not say a word that could be enough of a spark to whatever fuel that adds to those guys to take them to that to that position you know i always talk about this stuff you know as a like a lighter you know there's two things that have to happen for me on my bick even when i flick my bick right you know the first thing is is that you get that spark from the Flint, but unless there's fuel, there's no flame. So there's sparks that happen all the times in our lives, John, you know, a guy drives by you and looks at you funny. He cuts you off. He, whatever bumps into you, that's a spark, but I don't have to add the fuel. I don't have to add the fuel. You know, I had a situation yesterday where we're come to a four way stop, you know, The guy looked at me. I looked at him. I thought, okay, well, I'm going to go. Then he started to go, and then I started to go, and he started to go, and threw his hands in the air, and I'm just like, okay, I'm sorry. And then you wait back and you, hey, I'm sorry, too, confusion. Right. You see how that could have gone two ways?
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Yeah. Well, in today's world, it can very much go the other way. And, again, I don't know the exact thing that happened in, you know, Scottsdale. And I'm like you, Bill. I'm not telling anybody, you know, don't go do anything. I get it. Sometimes ballgames run late. You want to go have some fun with your friends. You want to do whatever. I'm not telling anybody, you know, really, Bill, you ought to be able to walk anywhere you want in America at any time of the day or night, and it should make a hell of a bit of difference anyway. So I get that. Although... You know, I think my dad was pretty, you know, pretty accurate when he said nothing good happens after midnight. So, you know, when you're out and you're out later, I think, if anything, the one thing my advice would be, boy, you've got to be self-aware even more then than you would be at 9 o'clock at night.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and our world's changing, John. Our world's changing. Evil is getting more bold. It's happening more regularly. We have to understand that this isn't the 50s. This isn't the 60s, the 70s, the 80s. Heck, it's not even the 90s where people were still pretty decent towards each other. Now, because of the government, now we're going to get off on another tangent, right, has worked so hard at creating a divided population that everybody's walking around on a trigger wire. Everybody's walking around because we're so divided, right? I mean, look at it. And it's like at the end of the day, I was talking to somebody, and they're like, oh, Republican, Democrat, Democrat. I said, you know what? At the end of the day, we've got to start treating each other as Americans because they don't really care.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep. Right. Yep. No, you're right. Absolutely. Fully agree. Fully agree. And again, folks, we're not trying to be naysayers by any means on some of this stuff. But I do think, Bill, you know, the whole being prepared, being vigilant, knowing your surrounding, what's going around, what's going on at all times. Where are you at even in your own life when it comes to your own finances and all those different things? And I know it sounds like a lot. And it is, Bill. I hate to say this, but you can't let your guard down at any point in time. Yes, you can still have fun. Yes, you can relax. But at the end of the day, you've got to keep pushing forward or you're going to get behind.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and John, we can sum up this whole show. Every single thing that we talked about, hit on today, can be summed up in one thing. It's time you wake up, and it's time you be situationally aware of what's going on in your life. That's right. Financially, personally, and even socially and around the world. You've got to wake up. You've got to be aware. Awesome. Get your head out of the sand, John.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'll leave it at that. Bill, thanks a lot. Have a good weekend. Talk to you later. All right, and that is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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In this episode, we dive into the latest antics of a Florida man with humorous yet astonishing stories, including a puzzling drug trafficking scenario and a shocking Uber mix-up turned kidnapping nightmare. From unexpected twists in suburban tales to insightful discussions on urban crime statistics, this episode is not short on intriguing narratives. We also take a closer look at the constant construction conundrums at the White House, exploring the nuances of decision-making and public information in large-scale projects.
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Two quick construction questions, if I can. You mentioned any construction project comes with changes. The president had initially said that this project wouldn't interfere with or touch the current structure. Now he says to do this properly, he realized that the East Wing had to be demolished. This is the people's house. Why not inform the public of that change and when it was decided that the East Wing would have to be demolished?
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Look, again, with any construction project, changes come. And we have informed all of you. We've been keeping you apprised of this project. We've shown you the renderings. And if you look at the renderings, it's very clear the east wing was going to be modernized. In fact, I said that in the briefing when we initially introduced this plan to all of you and to the public. But modernized is tearing down the streets. Well, again, the president, the plans changed when the president heard counsel from the architects and the construction companies who said that in order for this East Wing to be modern and beautiful for many, many years to come, for it to be a truly strong and stable structure, this phase one that we're now in was necessary. And the president wants to do right by the people's house. And so that's exactly what he's doing. It's going to be, again, like I said, much more stable, strong, secure, and more beautiful than ever once it's complete.
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The list of people, and that was Caroline Leavitt, who was going back and forth. There was an ABC reporter about this. I mean, I do remember they said that there was, in the beginning, that depending on what they found when they got into the initial demolition of the outside, the little car park outside, they were waiting to see whether or not they would have to do more, take down more of the structure than just that. And then apparently when they get in there, when they got in there, considering when the East Wing was built, it was like, what, the 40s? And then they did other renovations in the 50s. They actually, that was like back when they used asbestos. And the... asbestos for this literally me pull this up because I had this last night there's like a whole advocacy group for it in terms of construction they said that the there were there were concerns because it's over the east wing with back when it was originally built the in the later editions of it that was apparently at the height of the use of asbestos in construction and that I mean, so that required apparently them to do more because they needed to get you know, they had to do testing asbestos they had. And I'm actually by the way, Lorraine just posted literally what I had in front of me right now because they had a whole abatement that they had. It was EPA, OSHA and also they were working with Clark Construction and AECOM. with worker protection and all of that as a result. And so they had to actually do more to get some of that other material out. And then by the time they got at that point, they said, you know what, why don't we just reinforce this and use this? And so it ended up being actually easier to do it the way that they're doing it than not. And we do know a little bit about construction because my husband worked in construction. He rehabbed a city block in downtown St. Louis. It was a major project and built this amazing studio and condo. So we know about construction. I mean, we lived it. And they had a whole they went through this whole exact same thing, too, because there was asbestos in the building when they were rehabbing it and all of that. So I know the process of it. And it's a it's a big process. And sometimes when you get to a certain point, you're like, OK, it's just better to just go all the way instead of go through this. For the lack of a better way to put it, the whole abatement of this, it's just easier, right? And so that ultimately and I remember when they said they said they never said that there wasn't a possibility. They just said that it could happen, but they need to see when they get in there what they find and then they'll go from there. So it's not like I just I just rejected the argument that everybody was kept in the dark about it. The people that are the other people that are funding it. I mean, we're we're getting it's the people's house and we're getting a free ballroom. So let me just go through the names. Altaria Group, Amazon, Apple, Booz Allen Hamilton, Caterpillar, Coinbase, Comcast, JPEPE. And Amelia Fanul, Hard Rock International, Google, HP, Lockheed Martin, Meta Platforms, Micron Technology, Microsoft, Next Extra Energy, Planeteer Technologies, Ripple, Reynolds American, T-Mobile, Tether America, Union Pacific Railroad, Adelson Family Foundation, Stefani Brody, the Betty... Wold Johnson Foundation, Charles and Marissa Sascarilla, Edward and Sherry Glazer, Harold Hamm, Benjamin Leon Jr., the Lutnick family, the Laura and Isaac Perlmutter Foundation, Stephen A. Schwarzman, Konstantin Sokolov, Kelly Leffler and Jeff Sprecher, Paolo Tiramani, Cameron Winklevoss, Tyler Winklevoss. They were Facebook guys. Interesting. Those are all the people and entities that have been donating to this. So where is this? Because that was the other accusation that taxpayer dollars have been going towards this. And the project has been in the works for a long time. So this is I mean, New York Post published the list of all of the other donors. Hakeem Jeffries, we played that audio for you yesterday. He said, oh, we're going to have an investigation. We're going to get to the bottom of all the people involved in this. Well, for what purpose? For what? Because they to send them a thank you card for a free ballroom. I was asking a friend of mine. That. was in the White House press pool and does all this stuff it this actually is needed because it is true that the East Room cannot could not they can't accommodate more they can barely accommodate 200 people definitely cannot accommodate more than 200 and depending on the event And, you know, like if you're like all the stuff that's going on in there, you may not be able to get 200. So what they used to have to do is and what they still have to do right now is they would have to erect a giant tent on the South Lawn and hold the events in the tent at the South Lawn. And one of my friends was saying, gosh, it was awful when it would rain. And, you know, they didn't like being a member of the press and having their like minded and having to cover this. If it's like cold, if it's rainy, it's just, you know, it's not the most ideal situation. So when they had a state dinner, when the last state dinner that they. So when they had a huge state dinner, I think this was like maybe back in. When was this? When they had the president and first lady of Kenya, they had to go outside. They had to have their event outside. So imagine you have to put a tent on the lawn and everybody goes outside to eat. And yeah, you can have space heaters and all of that, but is it the most comfortable? Is it the best? So, and they've been doing, I mean, this has been happening for a while. There's a lot of drawbacks, especially when there's an issue with the weather. They have issues with bathroom facilities because you've got to make shift stuff when you have a tent on the lawn This is actually something I do agree with. And I'm very particular about taxpayer dollars. This isn't even taxpayer dollars. It's all privately funded. See, the other stuff that other previous presidents added, I would say maybe with the exception of the creation of the East Wing originally. Everything else has been for presidential use. The Clintons added a music room. The other presidents have added bowling alleys and pools. Gerald Ford added a pool. He wanted an outdoor pool, not just a lap pool, but a pool that he could swim in. You had Obama put in a basketball court. You had others put in tennis courts, all kinds of stuff. I mean, a lot of the stuff that they put in previously was stuff for their own personal use. This is something that's actually going to be used functionally for the White House. Because it can be a mess. And my friend was saying, because my friend has had to cover these events before, and my friend was saying that it's kind of a mess, especially if it's raining, when you have inclement weather, and... It also kind of some people have said that it people think that they're going to a state dinner at the White House and then they realize they're not even going into the White House. They're going to attend outside. And it is very expensive to get the kitchen stuff out there and set up the kitchen. And then they have to redo and basically put down turf every time they do one of these events. Also, where does where's Marine One land? Because Marine One always lands on South Lawn. So what happens when you got a big event and it's out there on the South Lawn and you got to help? You can't. That's where Marine One lands. So and when the tent is up, Marine One can't land. And the state dining room, if you look at going inside of the state dining room, that may be, I think they said it was like 120, 130 guests. State dinners, when you have leaders that come in there, that's a lot more than that. And they actually were trying, they made space, they were trying to make space even during Reagan's era in that East Wing. And the East Wing is a lot of unused offices and a lot of space that's actually not even entirely useful. So the bathroom situation, that's a whole other thing. And they can make it look really pretty out there. But you're outside in a tent and everybody knows it. And you have to walk outside to get into the tent. And they put the carpet down and all that stuff. But you guys know, ladies, you know how it is. It's not the best. You got wind, breeze, humidity, everything else out there. all these people go to this event to look nice for it and and then they go out there and you're out there in the humidity you're out there in the weather the the bathroom situation is abysmal it's a mess no matter how you do it so i actually think that this is a good move to so that way you can actually have a proper state dinner and the white house can hold these events and And a lot of the other rooms in the White House, I mean, they're at capacity as it is and always have been originally. So why are people why is this such a huge issue? It's privately funded. Everybody who's donated to it has been made public. You know how much has been donated. The president has also donated his own money. It is something that is going to be utilized pretty heavily for all events at the White House. So they don't have to move out antiques and historical artifacts from other rooms to accommodate people when they're trying to, you know, get as many people in to these other rooms for state events. So I have zero issue with us. I don't see one negative, Cain. I do not see a single drawback from any of this. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. where you can go and get your everyday medications. You can get your ivermectin, your hydroxychloroquine, your mimetazole, your NAD+, whatever it is that you need, they have it. And all this stuff that you would need for like sinus infections, Tamiflu, I mean, they got everything. 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Target has cut 1,800 corporate jobs in its first round of major layoffs in a decade. This is a lot. What are they going to do? Because Christmas season, isn't that their busiest season? What are they going to do? So they said that they announced this yesterday. It's about 8% of its corporate workforce. But if it's corporate, it doesn't matter. First off, how do you have that many corporate jobs? That's kind of crazy. Anyway, I haven't been to Target in... forever. They're trying to get back to growth and they're poised to get a new CEO in February. How many of you think that a lot of this began when they started messing with the men and women's bathrooms? Because that's actually one of the reasons I didn't go back to Target. I've had to go like one time in the past two years because they had like a skin. I get like mild eczema. They have like a skin thing that I needed over the counter that I couldn't get anywhere else and I had to go there.
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If you look at their stocks and when it actually dipped, it coincides with that time.
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I'm just saying, I feel like they need to make a play. And then all of the weird alphabet stuff that they were doing. I don't think anybody's gone in there. Magnolia seems to be at home in it. Let's see. Locals are leaving and permits are few. Malibu is having a post-fire identity crisis. They don't know what to do. They have wood frames that are rising up from the ashes of those crazy fires that now you just have burned out lots in the Palisades and everywhere else. But they said in Malibu down the road, it's really bleak. There's just a lot of caution tape. There's a lot of hollowed out shelves. A lot of the houses are not graffiti tagged. And I mean, it's been almost a year and everything is like frozen because it is impossible to get permitted to do anything. In fact, listen to this. L.A., which handles most permits, they've only they've issued barely over 40 percent of permits upon the total of applications received. And this is literally all rebuilding permits. None of it's like new architecture. It's just literally rebuilding what was existing. And L.A. County has handed out even less. It's under 26% of the total applications received. Malibu, under 2%. They don't want to rebuild. They're doing this on purpose. So people need to move. Wall Street bonuses expected to hit record as bank profits surge. Interesting. We'll come back to that. Also, Francis Ford Coppola, who's one of my absolute favorites, says he's broke and he's selling a custom one million dollar watch after his megalopolis debacle. You know what he did? The Godfather. No one can touch him. He is untouchable in my eyes. Stick with us. More to come.
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They're doing everything by the book. Why does Chicago have the highest murder rate of all the big cities?
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Well, we are not in the top 30 in terms of our murder rate. Our murder rate has been cut in half over the last four years, and every year it's gone down by double digits. And if you look at all of the violent crime over the last four years, they've all gone down.
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Most populous U.S. cities, 17.47 per 100,000 population. Chicago is number one over Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Los Angeles, New York, and San Diego.
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What I'm explaining to you is when you want to fight crime, look, you can pull statistics up. No, no, these are murders. I'm explaining to you that our murder rate has been cut in half. And very importantly, Brett, and you've got to hear this, very importantly, we've been doing the things that are necessary to bring crime down, right? We've invested in community violence interruption. We've invested in police.
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No, they haven't, actually. In fact, the clearance for these cases have dropped dramatically as well. Meaning, you know, going after prosecuting, solving felonious felony crimes, etc. That's J.B. Pritzker, who is on with Brett Baer. And it's hysterical because J.B. Pritzker is going, well, yeah, like we we cut crime. We don't nothing's wrong anymore. And Brett Baer is like, yeah, well, here are the receipts and you're number one. in terms of homicide, your tops. And Pritzker's like, well, that's just a lie. We don't care about your receipts. It's a lie. We cut it in half. It's cut in half, but you're still number one. You cut it in half, but you're still number one. Imagine if you hadn't reduced anything, right? It's insane. These people are insane. But this is, that was his excuse. I think he's very far removed from the reality that happens on his streets every single day. Every single day. But I actually, I mean, they're cut in half and still number one. Why is the murder rate the highest of all time? We're not in the top 30. Yeah, but here's the map. And then here is all of the crime data as it's tabulated by your actual law enforcement agencies. And he's like, you can put up all the statistics you want. We've cut our murder rate in half. You're still number one, Lunchbox. You're number one. You cut it in half, you claim, and you're still number one? Jeez. I would not have gone past that. Don't get mad at Brett Baier because he did. You have to realize that, especially with some producers and, you know, some of the bigwigs with network news, they don't want you to stay on that topic forever because they don't think it's good television. They want you to get past it. It's like when, you know, fighters are kind of like hugging it out when they're resting in the ring. It's like sort of that's how they view it. So I get I get it. But I wouldn't let him go. I would have just stayed on him. Like, wait, we can't go. I mean, they're they're still number one. They are number one in terms of murder rate, murder and shootings, murder, shootings, all crime, violent crime, whatever. They're number one. I and they. I even with now, I will say they do have a reduction. They had a reduction with some violent crime. Do you know how they had a reduction with violent crime? You just it's crazy. But if you don't report it, then it's wild. It goes away. Is that wild? If you if you if a crime happens and you don't report it, did the crime happen? That's their whole MO. That's their whole thing with us. So they've done that in California. I mean, they've had since when Pritzker became governor in the city of Chicago. I mean, since 2019, you've had over 4000 people shot and killed. It's all like gang activity, drugs and gangs, drugs and gangs. Drugs and gangs. Now, a lot of people say St. Louis. Oh, well, St. Louis is actually. Well, hold up. Hold up. That's our hometown. I take exception to that. Yes, St. Louis has a butt-ton of crime. That's an actual quantifiable measurement, by the way. It has a ton of crime. But the reason that St. Louis City ranks number one is because St. Louis City is not incorporated into the county. That's why. So they look at number of crimes per person adjusted to the population, and so it looks incredibly high. Now, it's very high. It's definitely in the top five. But it's not number one because the only saving grace is it's not incorporated. It's very weird how the city and the county are set up. The city has its own government, its own everything. The county has its own government, its own everything. It's very odd. It's difficult to explain that to people who don't get it.
SPEAKER 03 :
The downtown numbers, as far as people living downtown St. Louis, have dropped dramatically thanks to Democrat policies, unfortunately. And so as a result, the percentages are larger. That's the reason.
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Yeah, that's it. That's why. But Chicago, number one murder rate. And when he was saying that it was dropped in half, I mean, it's not actually dropped in half. He only reduced it. I mean, I would think, like doing the math, I think it's like barely 11%. He's like, oh, we cut it in half. He's trying to imply that he cut homicide by 50%. He didn't. And then he's trying to act like it's part of the decrease is because better policing. They've actually... have have hindered policing efforts and they declassified a lot of crimes and they just don't report things their their clearance for these felonies is like abysmal i mean it's not detroit's which is at 50 15 but it's like in the 20 something percent and this um idea that that is some big win for him can you imagine no you're still number one in murder Yeah, but we cut it in half, so what up? You're number one in murder. That's not a... You need to get past you being number one right now. You're number one in murder. Oh my gosh. It's still pretty bad. I... I don't know. I mean, what is it, like 17, isn't it? I was looking at the rate. This is per 100,000. Isn't it like 17, something like that? Yeah. Over 17. Over 17. Oh, yeah, it is. Over 17, I'm looking at. Really bad, guys.
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In the latest budget, they've actually asked the Chicago Police Department to come up with 98 million in cuts.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because they're spending so much on their policing efforts, Kane. Yeah. They're spending so much on their policing. And that is a true story. They wanted a $98 million. They're having a city budget crisis in Chicago. How is that possible? I'm just so confused. How is that possible that they would have that? I mean, everything's doing great if you listen to J.B. Pritzker. It's kittens in sunshine up there. Everything's so good. They have all this time on their hands to go after ICE. Now, the Chicago police superintendent, Larry Snelling, was saying, guys, public safety is going to be greatly impacted if you cut $98 million out of our budget. Because they have budget deficit. They keep they keep spending or sorry, 92 million. They keep spending like crazy. They've they've spent on entitlements and on illegal aliens. And then they spend it on busing people up to go and fight with ICE.
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So Caroline Leavitt talking about the shutdown, which, by the way, we're still it's the Democrats shutdown simply because they won't.
SPEAKER 09 :
agree to i'm so tired of this kane my gosh i just want to yeet myself off my roof but it's what what they hated was the big beautiful bill that destroyed essentially their sieve of money for everything that they wanted to do politically they know now that if they don't make this fight and hold the american people hostage the future of the democrat party is over
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Well, yeah. I mean, it's – this is a bit – you know, I find it fascinating that they're not getting as much – Think about this. They're not getting as much support as I as they previously did. I mean, they're getting I'm not talking about the press. What I'm talking about is the public, because the public polling, the polling that I've seen. I mean, it's a lot of it's like push pull nonsense where we have these individuals that, you know, when they what what push pulling means is that you're basically asking like, wow. So, you know, are you in support of the president beating his wife? You know what I mean? It's a very leading thing. But I really do. think that the people are not, they're not buying into it because I feel like people have followed things way closely lately. Even, you know, some of the independents that we always talk about, maybe they're not always plugged in. You know what I mean? That's, that's kind of, I sort of, I feel like, does it feel that way? I had somebody actually had a family member ask me this last night. And they said that they feel like there's more. How did they put it? They feel they felt like there was more tension. They were talking about this on Facebook and I thought it was a very interesting insight. They felt like they felt that there was more tension and that there's so many things, so many stories and controversies that are flying all around that. They're they're trying to figure out if it's just more corruption or if it's because they think that because people are maybe are seeing it more, which I thought was interesting. The question was, yeah, is there always been this much transgression or are we just more hyper aware? and able to easily access the information. And my point was that I think it's both. I think it's the hyper availability of social media that has really made it to where you can, I mean, really find out anything, but you can also be misled really easily as well. Let's Now, I'm not going to say anything about certain grandparents sharing videos thinking they're real. I'm not going to do that. But, you know, my point stands. I think that that's what it is. And so my point in bringing this up is I was looking at these aren't like the biggest polls and they're like likely voters, not registered voters, all this kind of stuff. But my point in bringing it up is that it really does seem as though the public is not buying it. They're not buying it and they are dissatisfied with the excuses that they're hearing from Democrats. And then lastly, I think that John Fetterman's reach extends far beyond what any Democrat thought it would. I I'm actually I'm pretty shocked. He has a bigger reach than AOC. Think about it. She has a big mouth and she's able to get headlines and clickbait with her surrogates. But who's Fetterman reaching out to? Is AOC reaching out to Republicans? No. Are there any Republicans listening to anything she says? No. Is she changing the minds of any independents? No. But look at Fetterman. Fetterman is not only convincing independents, but he's also making leeway with Republicans who are who because he's agreeing with the most common sense of their points. That's the strategy Democrats should have. If they were a smart party, they'd put all their eggs in. I can't believe I'm saying this, but they ought to. And I think that has contributed to this as well, because the public sees him as not being a zealot, a partisan zealot. And as a result, I think that his thoughts have more weight because he looks like he's evaluating things more fairly. Does that seem like a fair assessment, Cain? Because none of the polling and the polling that tries to argue otherwise, I mean, there's only a couple and it's so heavily oversampled. Like it's MSNBC stuff. This is some of the stuff I was looking at this morning. Nobody believes that any of this is Republicans' responsibility.
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He's one of those rare Democrats that actually represents all of his constituents. It's an odd thing to see sometimes.
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I got to tell you, I would be flipping terrified if they decided to elevate him and recruit more candidates like him. Yeah. I mean, wow. They're never going to do it. This is actually something I can guarantee you that we can talk about and it's never going to happen because they're so nuts. They're so nuts. It's never going to happen. If they had like Zell Millers and John Fettermans and who was some of the other – I'm trying to remember some of these other moderates. They had a couple of moderates that ran in 2012 and that's when they really finally ran the last of the moderates out of their party. They did the whole thing about you can't be – In favor of you can't be pro-life and be in the party. This is stuff that, you know, they've they've done for a long time. They ran them out along a long while ago. There was I saw a headline also. How did we get here? A reality check for Democrats like other Democrats going, please, Democrats. Please. Now, speaking of I've got some really crazy news in Virginia. We got to look at Virginia. This is something else. they are fighting over redistricting, right? They're fighting over redistricting and they want to redraw the house maps. Okay, Dana, that's a lot of states are doing that. Why is that like a big deal right now? Because of their process. Every state does things differently, right? They have different processes. It's a, you know, it's a thing. They have different ways of doing things. Missouri has a different way like Texas does. There's certain things that the governor is not allowed to do without oversight in Texas that the governor would be able to do in Missouri. It's just very. So here's the thing. They are, this is, it came out in the New York Times. It was confirmed. There were a lot of, there was a lot of talk about this yesterday. Virginia Democrats are planning to redraw House maps in a redistricting push. Now, they say that the move will give Democrats two or three additional seats, and they're scrambling the last couple of weeks to do this ahead of the November 4th election. Now, why would you, why in the world? That sounds kind of weird, right? They got a lot of other stuff going on right now. They've got elections. They've got a gubernatorial election. They have all of this other stuff going down. It's just kind of weird that this is what they're choosing to do now. Well, there's a reason why. They're desperate because the polling is in for Virginia, for Abigail Spanberger, for Jay Jones. The last minute session that they're calling, the process to this is that it pulls Winsome Sears off the campaign trail. But there's more. It not only pulls Winsome Sears off the campaign trail, the legal loophole that Virginia General Assembly members must follow is that they cannot be charged with a crime while in session. Now, remember, Jay Jones is under investigation. That's what this is about. This is Virginia Democrats pulling a Hail Mary for a last minute session to completely pull Winsome Sears as the lieutenant governor running for governor off the campaign trail and to protect Jay Jones from investigations into his improprieties. The text messages are the tip of the iceberg. They not only refused to condemn Jay Jones, who was recklessly driving. He could have killed someone. He's the attorney general nominee. His texts where he was fantasizing about murdering, shooting in the head his political opponents and murdering their children so that their mothers could watch them die in front of them. Those were his words. I mean, he actually was talking about, quote, cradling their dead children. So they're protecting him. This is the whole point. The special session meeting is official and it starts at 4 p.m. on Monday. So the gubernatorial election for Winsome Sears, her campaigning is effectively over. Jay Jones is now shielded for as long as they are in special session. They did not have to rush to withdraw this. And in fact, originally, they weren't even on that timeline. But now they're rushing to not only expand additional seats, but they're trying to protect Jay Jones and they're trying to protect Abigail Spanberger. And in essence, they're trying to really cheat a free and fair election. This is election interference without exception. That's exactly what this is. And so Winsome Earl Sears, she's not, will not be able to fundraise either. So when I say she can't campaign, she can't do anything. She can't raise money. She can't do anything. Last minute ad buys, you know, a couple of weeks before an election are paramount. Cain, you know how important they are. They're also very expensive. Her hands are entirely tied now. Democrats, by orchestrating this, the whole reason they did it was to affect the election. This is because Democrats are panicked. Spanberger has dropped in the polls. Jay Jones is getting walloped right now in the polling. And. I don't know. Here's the problem. They're gambling, though. Because they could set up a major backlash in other races for their House of Delegates later on. They are flirting with a major backlash here. And This is something else, I tell you. Wow. Chapter is that entity that makes it easy. You hear about, why do you get the whole Medicare enrollment season thing? And I'm not even Medicare eligible, and I'm annoyed by all of the commercials on it. Some of you get the mailers and the texts and all this stuff. Look, I get it that you want to make sure that your plan's good and that you don't lose coverage because it's very important. Medicare plans can change every year. But you still, even if you're happy with your plan, you got to check what's coming for 2026. Chapter is a partner that will work with you. Make sure you're not overpaying. 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Target has cut 1,800 corporate jobs in its first round of major layoffs in a decade. This is a lot. What are they going to do? Because Christmas season, isn't that their busiest season? What are they going to do? So they said that they announced this yesterday. It's about 8% of its corporate workforce. But if it's corporate, it doesn't matter. First off, how do you have that many corporate jobs? That's kind of crazy. Anyway, I haven't been to Target in... forever. They're trying to get back to growth and they're poised to get a new CEO in February. How many of you think that a lot of this began when they started messing with the men and women's bathrooms? Because that's actually one of the reasons I didn't go back to Target. I've had to go like one time in the past two years because they had like a skin. I get like mild eczema. They have like a skin thing that I needed over the counter that I couldn't get anywhere else and I had to go there.
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If you look at their stocks and when it actually dipped, it coincides with that time.
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I'm just saying, I feel like they need to make a play. And then all of the weird alphabet stuff that they were doing. I don't think anybody's gone in there. Magnolia seems to be at home in it. Let's see. Locals are leaving and permits are few. Malibu is having a post-fire identity crisis. They don't know what to do. They have wood frames that are rising up from the ashes of those crazy fires that now you just have burned out lots in the Palisades and everywhere else. But they said in Malibu down the road, it's really bleak. There's just a lot of caution tape. There's a lot of hollowed out shelves. A lot of the houses are not graffiti tagged. And I mean, it's been almost a year and everything is like frozen because it is impossible to get permitted to do anything. In fact, listen to this. L.A., which handles most permits, they've only they've issued barely over 40 percent of permits upon the total of applications received. And this is literally all rebuilding permits. None of it's like new architecture. It's just literally rebuilding what was existing. And L.A. County has handed out even less. It's under 26% of the total applications received. Malibu, under 2%. They don't want to rebuild. They're doing this on purpose. So people need to move. Wall Street bonuses expected to hit record as bank profits surge. Interesting. We'll come back to that. Also, Francis Ford Coppola, who's one of my absolute favorites, says he's broke and he's selling a custom one million dollar watch after his megalopolis debacle. You know what he did? The Godfather. No one can touch him. He is untouchable in my eyes. Stick with us. More to come. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's the folks over at Super Beats. You guys are familiar with Human and their Super Beats. What makes them different is where it began. Human was founded out of the UT Health Science Center, built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. And unlike other supplement brands, Human is science born and not just science-ish. Their products work and you can feel them working. UT athletes have used Super Beats for over a decade, calling it their cheat code for for recovery and endurance and you can use it for the same reason to support healthy blood pressure and circulation today more than 160 college and pro teams use human products And your favorite team probably does, too. And if you've seen the human logo on the Longhorns field this football season, that's more than a sponsorship. It's a signal from human and UT together leading the future of cardiovascular health for athletes and for everyone. You can try Super Beats Heart Shoes by human to choose a day can support healthy blood pressure, blood flow and energy. Don't wait. Pick up Super Beats at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the road to better health with human.
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It was weird when they were sitting there. They had such a great... It seemed like they had put all negativity behind them, Cain. Yeah. That was the prime minister there of Canada. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. The chat is at Rumble. Also, you can watch us do the radio show, Channel 347, DirecTV. And we have X and Facebook and all that. We're going to get back into the Virginia stuff as well, but the Canadian thing. So it came out yesterday that there was this – I guess it's like a fake Reagan ad or whatever that they aired that it was Ontario that aired it. Correct. And it upset POTUS. Do we even I don't even think we we probably can't even play the ad because YouTube will ding us. We can't play anything for you because YouTube fights everything and you have to basically hire lawyers and go back and forth with YouTube and we can't afford that.
SPEAKER 09 :
They can do it. I mean, they're very proud of the ad. I don't think they'd have an issue with it.
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But they're Canadian.
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Yeah.
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They're polite, like, on the surface, but some of them will cut you.
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Eh.
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You know.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, go ahead and play it.
SPEAKER 22 :
Go ahead and play it then. This is the ad.
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So it was Ontario, and they're going back and forth over negotiations with regards to tariffs and all this other stuff. So they released this ad and it angered POTUS. POTUS is very upset about this. Let me pull up his statement because he had a, he ended the trade talks with them over this. And this was, what, just like last night out of nowhere. I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's huge. But he had, well, there was a couple of things that he released. He had a few posts. But he halted trade negotiations over this ad that used Reagan's voice to oppose tariffs. This is the Ontario Premier Doug Ford. He's, by the way, the brother of the other Ford guy who looked like Chris Farley but wasn't. Oh. And he like admittedly like dead drugs. He was like talking about how he snorted coke and all this. I just, you know, he's kind of like a wild, crazy dude. Anyway, Doug Ford said that the president would be would not be too happy with the 60 second spot. He said that earlier this week and he was correct. And. Trump posted the Ronald Reagan Foundation has just announced that Canada has fraudulently used an ad, which is fake, featuring Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about tariffs. He said they only did this to interfere with the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court and other courts and then caps locked it. Tariffs are very important to the national security economy and of the USA. And based on their egregious behavior, he goes back to caps. All trade negotiations with Canada are hereby terminated. And the Reagan Foundation also hit back. And I think they have every right to do that. They said that it misrepresented. Now, I don't care if Ontario, some people were making the argument that Ontario had the right to use the portion of the audio, et cetera, et cetera. That's whatever. I'm not even going to get involved in that. It was, and even the Reagan Foundation says it was a misrepresentation of it. And they said that they had learned that they had created this ad. And that it is an inaccurate representation. And it was his radio address to the nation on free and fair trade. And that was back in April of 1987. And it said it misrepresents it and that they're reviewing their legal options. And then they said, you're encouraged to watch Reagan's unedited video on their YouTube channel. And so Mark Carney and then the Canada U.S. trade minister said they're not going to comment. They'll have more to say today. I haven't heard them say anything yet. And the spokesperson for Ford said, well, all it does is use this unedited excerpt from one of his addresses. But was it presenting it in the proper context? And they said that they the purpose of them quoting Reagan is they were trying to recognize that ultimately somebody pays the tariff and it's the consumer. Now, they're not entirely wrong about that. I'm not going to sit here and blow smoke up everybody's backside. Um, all of this though, is to see what happens when this play runs, because we're still in the middle of the play. Am I using correct terminal, uh, football terminology, Kane? Uh, sure. How does the correct, don't, I want to hear from a single one of you people out there. You're, you're running a play and you're like in the middle of the play being ran. Steve's dying. Are you dying, Steve? I'm so sorry. Is that right? Is that right? Yeah. Did I get it?
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I would say drive, because you run a lot of plays in a drive. So I'll go this drive.
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You just really broke her brain.
SPEAKER 22 :
So wait, it's... Sorry, man. Are you driving the play? Or playing that drive? What?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a drive downfield.
SPEAKER 24 :
Right, you run a play to drive downfield.
SPEAKER 22 :
Okay, okay. I just want to make sure I have this correct. So we're in the middle of a drive... Okay. All right. All right. All right. So I... Okay. Good. I got it. Learned something new today. But we're in the middle of it. So I want to see how this plays out because it's all about equalizing these trade relationships with all of these other entities, all these other sovereign entities around the world. That's what it's about. So why can't we... And of course, you have to have these negotiations and we have to get these numbers nailed down and that's what we're doing. So... I feel like a lot of people are trying to rush that. Believe me, I want to also because this is where, yes, some consumers are getting hit with higher costs as a result of that. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you for political advantage or clicks. And the people who do, you know, they're just doing it because they want your eyeballs, but they don't really care enough about your minds or hearts. So the point is, though, that the purpose of the drive is And all of that being completed is for it to benefit everyone, including the consumer and the United States, at the end of it so that we have better trade deals that are permanent. Using tariffs is a tactic, and it's not a permanent one. And it's to be short term. That's the whole point. And I understand that argument. What what concerns me is when it drags out and when these negotiations drag out and it takes longer and longer and longer. So now we have because we have already have double digit tariffs on steel, aluminum, auto, lumber, copper, all of that stuff. And he wants to renegotiate the U.S., Mexico, Canada free trade agreement. But he said, I'll be open to abandoning it. I think that that's a leverage tactic for him in negotiations. So that is that this is the purpose of it. And the ad that they played. Do you think it's enough, Kane, that I understand what they're doing? Is it enough of an of an offense to be like, well, we're not going to talk to you anymore?
SPEAKER 09 :
Um... That's a good question. I mean, that's also, you know, I guess subjective as well. I mean, if Trump believes that Canada should just, you know, essentially respect the idea of what Trump's doing with tariffs and he just is like, well, they're clearly trying to spread lies about what I'm doing here with tariffs. So you guys just ended, you know, ended the talks. I mean, I think it's reasonable from one perspective, but, you know, I guess you could say that maybe it might be a little over the top.
SPEAKER 22 :
I mean, I look at it kind of both ways. Like it's over the top. Maybe I can understand that. But also I can understand with I'm tired of messing around with you. You know, I'm not going to give you the colloquialism that my mom uses where you need to act or do nothing. You can kind of understand what I'm talking about there. But. I mean, will it work? Now, here's the thing that's that's different. You kind of have to have a different approach with every one of these countries. Now, I don't want anybody because we have some Canadian friends and I'm not trying to offend you. I'm really trying to offend the progressives there that keep voting for these unhinged people that do these stupid things that anger allies. But whatever. You have to be heavy handed with countries like Qatar. Very much so. You got to be heavy handed with countries like Venezuela. That's why he can say stuff like that, you know, where he's like, yeah, well, you know, yeah, well, whatever these boats. Yeah. And they're not going to mess around or blink around with the United States. Canada. They're they seem very passive, aggressively polite. You know what I mean? Are they brutes? I don't think they're brutish. I don't think they're brutes in terms of being in brutality. Are they passive aggressive? Oh, totally. Yes, they are. But I don't know, will that same tactic work? Because, you know, the people are very, it's very, you're talking about a very different demographic than you are about entity in the Middle East or even Ukraine or even Russia or anybody else very different so I don't know it seems like a universal kind of approach and I don't know if that's necessarily the approach that's going to get you the return on the investment of that action as quickly as you would like if that makes sense so I don't know but whether or not they come back to this I just think, and I'm not defending Canada, but we jokingly say that Canada is America's hat. Do you think that angers them? So do you think that they're within their right to kind of push back? Or is it because they used Reagan to do it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, look, I'm all about anybody trolling and doing whatever politically. I just think that... This is all part of a larger plan. I just can't help to think this way because Trump wants Canada to be state 51. He wants that. I don't want their voters. He would love that. Oh, hell no.
SPEAKER 22 :
Importing millions of progressive voters? Oh, absolutely redacted. Redacted or no.
SPEAKER 09 :
We have millions of progressive voters here.
SPEAKER 22 :
So we're going to double it? We're going to make it worse?
SPEAKER 09 :
We'll be doubling it. Hell no.
SPEAKER 22 :
I don't want any of that maple syrup Marxism.
SPEAKER 09 :
But it's clear. Hell no. it's clear trump definitely is one of this and he's called for this in the past them being the 51st state they already know that without the 200 billion plus that we were in the negative every year with canada is essentially going to have to force them to do something and i think this might be part of that bigger play this is doug ford cut 17 he likes it he's gonna keep doing it he says it's the best ad he's ever seen
SPEAKER 18 :
I heard that the president heard our ad. I'm sure he wasn't too happy, but it's real because it was coming from the best president the country's ever seen, Ronald Reagan. So it is. It's very effective. It's probably one of the best ads I've ever seen. And it's coming from Ronald Reagan's voice. And it's going to be focused right across the country, but also in Republican-held areas. Because what I feel... The Reagan Republicans are going to be fighting with a MAGA group. And let's hope Reagan Republicans.
SPEAKER 22 :
Is there that much of a difference, though? No, there isn't. Why do they keep trying to insist that there's that much of a difference?
SPEAKER 09 :
They want that internal divide. They want it.
SPEAKER 22 :
I really don't think a lot of foreign politicians understand what... Now, is there a difference between Republicans and MAGA? I think so. But I think it's more... candidate focused rather than party focused. And I think that's fair to say, just like there's a difference between conservatives and Republicans. Right. Like, for instance, I do not consider myself a Republican. Never have because they are way too left for me. They're left. They've been left for me on guns. They're left for me on taxes. But I don't consider myself a libertarian. I just I'm not a joiner. I don't know. But I vote Republican. I don't know. We'll talk more about this because I feel like that death that would seem like a sloppy psyop to divide people. I don't think it's I don't know. We got more on the way as we rolled towards the conclusion of this first hour. We've days of these United States coming up. It is the folks over at Kel-Tec, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. If you're in the market for a shotgun, check out Kel-Tec's KS7, the Gen 2nd Gen. It's packed with upgrades. You have a five-slot Picatinny-style accessory rail. You can add vertical grips, lights, keep it flush, sleek, with a cap if you want. It's a smoother pump action, so you have faster, cleaner cycling, plus enhanced durability. All the original advantages are there. The ultralight weight, it just, you know, under seven pounds unloaded, compact bullpup design, maneuverability in tight spaces, ambidextrous downward shell ejection, seven plus one capacity for all of it. Great for home defense, range days. It works well for seasoned shooters and first-timers. MSRP is just $639, so it's super affordable. All accessible, well within reach. Check it out. It's from KeltecWeapons.com. K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. It's the KS7 Gen 2. Tell them that Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 07 :
For America, for our unity, no kings.
SPEAKER 22 :
Here's my song. It's about no kings. I'm always with him. Whenever I hear Bruce Springsteen play, I'm like, he's either constipated or he's having a stroke. It's never, oh, that's a song. If you like Bruce Springsteen, I'm sorry that you do. Not that I have this opinion. Oh, my gosh. Welcome back to the program. He said, if you couldn't understand the Springsteenism, he says, I want to send this out as a prayer for America and our unity. No kings. What king is there? I mean, the fact that you can do this is sort of indicative of there not being a king.
SPEAKER 09 :
Join me on my shows in England.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, go do it. Yeah. Go play that. Oh, remember, they had to change it. They couldn't even call it a no kings rally in England. They had to change it to no tyrants so they didn't upset the monarchy. The same thing every other country that has a monarchy. They had to go, no, we're going to change it to no tyrants. We didn't want to upset the actual king. So they're just admitting that they can say no kings in countries without kings. He's like the early he's like the prototype for the Eddie Vedder singers. Can I just sidebar for a moment? How horrible was it in the 90s after like, look, I get a lot of people like Pearl Jam. I don't dislike Pearl Jam, but I do like I do dislike the Eddie Vedder vocal affectation that so many people try to copy. And then you just had a bunch of an army of derivative male vocalists that all were like me. All of them were like that. Cain, you were in radio. You know. They were all like that for like a period of five years.
SPEAKER 09 :
There was an era.
SPEAKER 22 :
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SPEAKER 22 :
What is he? So wait, JB Pritzker is is accusing POTUS of sending in checks, notes, the military to seize ballot boxes at midterms. Did we? I feel like I saw this before. I've seen this movie. I saw this movie during 2021 came. That's when I saw this movie with the ballot boxes and all that stuff when you had the. Biden administration and everybody else telling everybody, this is telling states how to control their elections and all of that. I mean, basically seizing the, I'm just saying, I feel like we've seen this before, Cain. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash, with you. We're at the top of this first hour. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, here's what I say. I say we count all the ballots, do it just paper-wise. I mean, so Trump can't cheat.
SPEAKER 22 :
That's right. So Trump can't cheat. cheat. That's correct. Let's just do paper ballots and everybody has to come and show their ID because we got to show our IDs to make sure no one cheats for Trump, right? Make sure you show those IDs because people may cheat for Trump, Democrats, so you better let us have the IDs. What? I can't find a USB drive with votes on them later. Can't do none of that. We better make sure that signatures match on mail-ins so that we don't try to cheat for Trump. If you don't do that, I'll totally cheat. We'll all cheat. So you better make us have voter IDs. Otherwise, we are all going to cheat. I mean, I'm not saying definitively, but we will. You know, just saying. I think that makes sense. I like that idea. We'll do that. So I voted yesterday. I early voted. I don't really like to early vote as much as I can. I try to vote the day of.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm doing it today.
SPEAKER 22 :
Only because I'm very combative and I like to walk past all of the leftists and be very theatrical about going and casting my vote against their interests. I'm not kidding you. That's why I like it. Because that's when they're all there. And then you get the news crews there and all that. I love that. So that's why I usually like to do day of. But there's a lot of we have our elections coming up local and municipal. And so I early voted yesterday and you early voted yesterday to came today. Sorry, today there was no line. And one of my favorite things ever is how the people that work the polls, they're volunteers and they're so excited to see you come vote. And it's so great. I love it. They're like, oh, thanks for coming to vote today. And I don't know why they sound like they're Minnesotan in my voice. But you know what I mean? They're very nice. They're so happy. It's like they've been waiting their whole lives for you to walk through the door and cast your vote. They're so great. And then when it's like somebody who's voting for the first time at our polling place, they make a huge deal of it. Like, oh, we got a first-time voter, first-time voter. And it's like being at TGI Fridays. Ah! And then you get flair, like first time voter sticker. You know, you get the big sticker. I almost want to lie and say I'm a first time voter so I can get the big sticker. But it's really but they're so sweet. Oh, my goodness. There was no line. Walked in, voted and nobody votes. These are the elections that really count. Look, these elections, these local municipal elections, these are the ones where. Later on, you might be determining picking a Senate candidate based on people who came up in this election. This is when you make a vote against the baddies. This is where it really, really counts. And you got to watch. So went and voted. And there's only like one person standing outside with a sign. I think the rest of it will kick into gear for Election Day. But, yeah, I like going on the day of. So we really need day. I use paper ballots and day of and then, you know, have, you know, military vote with their absentee ballots, things like that. i get i understand it sometimes with college kids and with with um you know having mail-in ballots for them i understand that because not everybody can get back but i think it needs to be very strict very regulated and there need to be a lot of safeguards and more than just like the signature matching and all of this stuff i mean it just you know should be tied to your driver's license online or something to that effect where you can just go in through the d i don't know maybe the portal something but anyway Long story short, there was no line at the voting place yesterday. I got my sticker. Got my I voted sticker. Do you save your sticker, Kane?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I typically don't.
SPEAKER 22 :
I regret not saving mine like a book at Star.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it'd be nice like the old days when you used to collect stamps and stuff. Yeah. Remember those days.
SPEAKER 22 :
Some of the kids who weren't there in the early 90s, they don't understand the bookets. So that was an elementary school thing where you had the Pizza Hut booket program, literally book it. And the person who read the most books got a pizza party. At the end of the semester. Wasn't it like by... It was a personal pan pizza you'd get from... No, but if you won the most in your grade, you got a pizza parlor.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah. See, I never saw that growing up for me. I think my kids got involved in that, but I think I... Oh, I totally did.
SPEAKER 22 :
Already got out of... There is nothing... Some of you out there are like me. You're... negative uh some people respond to negative or like criticism and that motivates them i don't even care about it it just rolls off me and um the positive reinforcement though i'm very much like trump in that way like very i am exactly like trump what am i talking i am exactly like trump in that way that's where it was like we recognized each other positive reinforcement all the way i totally respond to that but if you're negative i'm like you're a bot anyway but um My whole point is that the book at program was that optic. You had that optic satisfaction. Every book you read, you got a star on the chart. And I wanted to have the most stars. I am a box checker. I'm the star. And a lot of you out there are like that. You know what I mean? Right. You want the sticker. You want the whatever. Oh, my gosh. When I would get like an A on a paper and my teacher wouldn't just put like a sticker on it, it would be the scratch and sniff sticker. Cane. The one scent that brings me back to elementary school is the scratch and sniff root beer sticker. And y'all know what I'm talking about. What? There was no scent on earth. that can match that. The scratch and sniff root beer sticker. And when I got that, it was, oh man, I wanted to save it. I ended up, I did get, I got a, I did get a pizza party one year because I had the most books that semester. And then the next semester, I remember I ended up getting the flu and it knocked me out of first place. And I was just, I was livid. And I was really trying to rack it up. But I was like two stars, two books behind. Isn't that crazy? So I lost at the other one. But I loved that book and program. I even still have the button. I kept that button. I had to wear it one day. I kept the button that I got with it. I literally have it in my jewelry box.
SPEAKER 09 :
But I remember my kids thinking and felt like currency in their hands when they had that little, you got that little coupon for the free pizza because of the book. It's like money.
SPEAKER 22 :
It's like the golden ticket from Willy Wonka, man. Got the golden ticket. All right. So a few other things to hit on here. Let me pull up my rundown because I totally lost it. So Graham Platner, by the way, can we just revisit this because there are some updates. You know, he used to be well, not used to be. He said that he became a communist. and he worked with one of these gun groups that arms and works with Antifa. So he had the Nazi tattoo on his chest and he covered it up with a bad dog. Well, then it looked like he had another tattoo on his arm and at first the picture that came out was that it was it said the it was only a partial view of it and it said 1919 and everyone's like well can we talk about that other nazi tattoo because isn't that like the numerical thing for ss so and apparently that's yeah so he um It ended up being like a trail crew thing. But you can't blame people for questioning the provenance of it, considering the first one was legit a Nazi tattoo. He did this video where he said, oh, I didn't realize it was. But people that he knew and was friends with, they all assert that he would brag about, this is my Nazi tattoo, or what do they call it? This is my Totenkampf tattoo. and that it was apparently corroborated by other individuals. They said that people who socialized with him when he was living in Washington a decade ago, that he specifically acknowledged that it was a Totenkopf, the death's head symbol, that the SS adopted. And those were the ones that, that patrolled the, they were, they later patrolled the concentration camps in World War II. And they, they were telling the press like, oh yeah, he would come out and say, this is my Totenkopf. And he would say it in a cutesy little way. Wait, but those are the people that always say we're the Nazis. So I believe that. Because there were several people that came forward and they were like, no, he knew what it was.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, exactly. He had staff who actually his campaign manager or political director resigned last week over her objection to whatever comments he was putting out on Reddit and then later put out a Facebook post that said Graham has an anti-Semitic tattoo on his chest and explains all of it.
SPEAKER 22 :
He apparently offered he was trying to pay off his campaign chief. He offered them $15,000 to sign an NDA. I think that was this one. She declined and she was the one who resigned. So he tried paying her off. He offered her $15,000 to sign an NDA. And she wasn't going to sign the NDA. So they had he had a new campaign manager. They got a new campaign manager this week. And he brought in like an in-house attorney. By the way, he brought in a firm called Spruce Street Consulting, which apparently also has worked with Zoran Mamdani. Interesting. Now, this is separate from all of the social media stuff that he had. Because he would run his mouth on social media all the time. I mean, he promoted super violent stuff on online before on Reddit and elsewhere. There are a lot of screenshots of this stuff. You know, he talked about the way he told it. CNN was that he was just messing around on the Internet. That's all.
SPEAKER 21 :
But what?
SPEAKER 22 :
I don't know. Some of the posts he was in the socialist, the socialist subreddit called Socialist RA. It's the Socialist Redditor Rifle Association. Oh, by the way, they're different from the Socialist Rifle Association. They're totally two totally different types of D bags. Right. One is a capital D and D bag and the other is the lowercase D and D bag. And so he said that he agreed – first off, he said that people should be willing – that people should – talking about the workers because he talks about workers' party and all that. And they should force, I guess, the people that they are submitting them into, quote, abject slavery. He has a bunch of stuff. I'm not even going to read all of it. And some of it I can't even read on air because of the language. But, I mean – It is. He talked about urinating on the graves of Republican. Well, that was Jones of Republican opponents. And apparently he was supportive of him. There's a lot of stuff out there that he has said. And regardless of whether he said it in 2018 or now, what it does is it establishes a pattern of behavior. And that's enough. That should be enough for disqualification. I mean, the guy is there. I mean, this is like what the second dude running for office now on the East Coast that's completely unhinged. Jay Jones and then Plattner. I mean, this is crazy. We got a lot more on the way as we roll towards headlines already in this third hour. Good grief. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy, where you can go and get your everyday medications. You can get your ivermectin, your hydroxychloroquine, your mimetazole, your NAD+, whatever it is that you need. They have it. And all this stuff that you would need for like sinus infections, Tamiflu, I mean, they got everything. And it's easy because all you do is you go online, you fill out a form of what you need, a doctor reviews it, and then your medications are sent to you within two to four days. But if you need it in a pinch, it can be overnighted to you. It's very, very easy. I've had that done before. And everything that they use, all of these medications are made in the USA with USA precursors. So you're not getting anything from China. You're not getting anything from India. You're not getting anything from South America. It is all USA precursors manufacturing. And you can stock up today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. If you use code Dana10, you can get 10% off. So visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Code Dana10 for 10% off.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Sad news. Soft Cell's Dave Ball, dead at age 66. His bandmate reveals that he's been ill for a while. It was announced that he died this morning, or actually yesterday evening. His music partner and the other half of the group, Mark Allman, had posted on Facebook that he went peacefully in his sleep. No cause of death was given other than he was dealing with an illness. I mean, we just saw them like a month and a half ago. Soft Cell and Dallas, they were fantastic. So, man. Is that right? That seems especially because people are living like in their 90s now. That seems way. Yeah, it seems like that's like a baby anymore. That makes like people in their 20s like fetuses. All right. So a teen uses social media to drive business at this pharmacy's soda fountain. I haven't seen a soda fountain where they run it old school. When I was a little kid where my family was from in the Ozarks, they had a pharmacy and it was old school and it was on an old timey main street. And I used to go in there as a little kid with my grandma. When she would have to pick up medicine because you get your medicine there. And then they had it was weird. It's like a CVS, but like with a lunch counter. And I would literally get like a milkshake or like a root beer float or something there. And they had the hats and they did the whole thing. It was very interesting. So apparently, yeah, this dude, he drives all of his business at this pharmacy. It's in Canada, but or not Canada. Sorry, it's in Iowa. I totally said that wrong. Don't send me hate mail. But he's worked there since he was 12 and he used to deliver medication. And then he took over the soda fountains operations and he drives like he gets tons of business just from social media. Good for him. Look at it. Let's see. A Kent police dog helps corner a domestic violence suspect after a motorcycle chase. That's a very good boy. Police, they arrested a man who had assaulted a woman. He tried to escape on a motorcycle, but he was no match for the canine officer Flesher and his police dog Gambit. They tracked him and found him and Gambit quickly apprehended him. So he should get like lots of treats and extra pets. And a lot of people are going to gigs, festivals, and clubs alone. I've never done that. Steve, have you ever gone to a concert by yourself? Okay, we got to talk about that. All right, we got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. America's tap water is a cocktail of heavy metals and toxins, the result of corroded pipes that we should have replaced decades ago. Let me just ask anybody in Flint, Michigan. You got lead, heavy metals, rust, basically liquid poison right off the tap. So when I tried Cove Pure on my counter, it was so easy. No plumber, no drilling. You just plug it in and pick your water temperature on the touch screen. And honestly, it actually tastes like water, not like death. So that's why I use the Cove Pure water purifier to keep my family safe. Unlike the government. CovPure actually does its job. Lead in your water doesn't stop at a gross taste. It can actually cause a host of serious medical issues. But yeah, sure, go ahead. Trust the city with your kid's health. I mean, what could go wrong? CovPure's ClearWave technology removes up to 99.9% of contaminants. So don't wait for the government to help. Take back control of your family's health and finally drink water the way that it was meant to be. Visit CovePure.com slash Dana for $200 off. That's CovePure.com slash Dana.
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Two quick construction questions, if I can. You mentioned any construction project comes with changes. The President had initially said that this project wouldn't interfere with or touch the current structure. Now he says to do this properly, he realized that the East Wing had to be demolished. This is the people's house. Why not inform the public of that change and when it was decided that the East Wing would have to be demolished?
SPEAKER 20 :
look again with any construction project changes come and we have informed all of you we've been keeping you apprised of this project we've shown you the renderings if you look at the renderings it's very clear the east wing was going to be modernized instead in fact i said that in the briefing when we initially introduced this plan to all of you and to the public Well, again, the president, the plans changed when the president heard counsel from the architects and the construction companies who said that in order for this east wing to be modern and beautiful for many, many years to come, for it to be a truly strong and stable structure, this phase one that we're now in was necessary. And the president wants to do right by the people's house. And so that's exactly what he's doing. It's going to be, again, like I said, much more stable, strong, secure, and more beautiful than ever once it's complete.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 22 :
The list of people, and that was Caroline Leavitt, who was going back and forth. There was an ABC reporter about this. I mean, I do remember they said that there was, in the beginning, that depending on what they found when they got into the initial demolition of the outside, the little car park outside, they were waiting to see whether or not they would have to do more, take down more of the structure than just that. And then apparently when they get in there, when they got in there, considering when the East Wing was built, it was like, what, the 40s? And then they did other renovations in the 50s. They actually, that was like back when they used asbestos. And the... Asbestos for this literally me pull this up because I had this last night. There's like a whole advocacy group for it in terms of construction they said that The there were there were concerns because it's over the east wing with it back when it was originally built the in the later editions of it that was apparently at the height of the use of asbestos in construction and that I mean, so that required apparently them to do more because they needed to get you know, they had to do testing asbestos they had. And I'm actually by the way, Lorraine just posted literally what I had in front of me right now because they had a whole abatement that they had. It was EPA, OSHA and also they were working with Clark Construction and AECOM. with worker protection and all of that as a result. And so they had to actually do more to get some of that other material out. And then by the time they got at that point, they said, you know what, why don't we just reinforce this and use this? And so it ended up being actually easier to do it the way that they're doing it than not. And we do know a little bit about construction because my husband worked in construction. He rehabbed a city block in downtown St. Louis. It was a major project and built this amazing studio and condo. So we know about construction. I mean, we lived it. And they had a whole they went through this whole exact same thing, too, because there was asbestos in the building when they were rehabbing it and all of that. So I know the process of it. And it's a it's a big process. And sometimes when you get to a certain point, you're like, OK, it's just better to just go all the way instead of go through this. For the lack of a better way to put it, the whole abatement of this, it's just easier, right? And so that ultimately, and I remember when they said, they never said that there wasn't a possibility. They just said that it could happen, but they need to see when they get in there, what they find, and then they'll go from there. So it's not like, I just rejected the argument that everybody was kept in the dark about it. The people that are, the other people that are funding it, I mean, it's the people's house and we're getting a free ballroom. So let me just go through the names. Altaria Group, Amazon, Apple, Booz Allen Hamilton, Caterpillar, Coinbase, Comcast, JPEPE. And Amelia Fanul, Hard Rock International, Google, HP, Lockheed Martin, Meta Platforms, Micron Technology, Microsoft, Next Extra Energy, Planeteer Technologies, Ripple, Reynolds American, T-Mobile, Tether America, Union Pacific Railroad, Adelson Family Foundation, Stefani Brody, the Betty... Wold Johnson Foundation, Charles and Marissa Sascarilla, Edward and Sherry Glazer, Harold Hamm, Benjamin Leon Jr., the Lutnick family, the Laura and Isaac Perlmutter Foundation, Stephen A. Schwarzman, Konstantin Sokolov, Kelly Leffler and Jeff Sprecher, Paolo Tiramani, Cameron Winklevoss, Tyler Winklevoss. They were Facebook guys. Interesting. Those are all the people and entities that have been donating to this. So where is this? Because that was the other accusation, that taxpayer dollars have been going towards this. And the project has been in the works for a long time. So... This is... I mean, New York Post published the list of all of the other donors. Hakeem Jeffries, we played that audio for you yesterday. He said, oh, we're going to have an investigation. We're going to get to the bottom of all the people involved in this. For what purpose? For what? Because they... To send them a thank you card for a free ballroom? I was asking a friend of mine that... was in the White House press pool and does all this stuff. This actually is needed because it is true that the East Room cannot, could not, they can't accommodate more. They can barely accommodate 200 people. Definitely cannot accommodate more than 200. And depending on the event, And, you know, like if you're like all the stuff that's going on in there, you may not be able to get 200. So what they used to have to do is and what they still have to do right now is they would have to erect a giant tent on the South Lawn and hold the events in the tent at the South Lawn. And one of my friends was saying, gosh, it was awful when it would rain. And, you know, they didn't like being a member of the press and having their like minded and having to cover this. If it's like cold, if it's rainy, it's just, you know, it's not the most ideal situation. So when they had a state dinner, when the last state dinner that they. So when they had a huge state dinner, I think this was like maybe back in. When was this? When they had the president and first lady of Kenya, they had to go outside. They had to have their event outside. So imagine you have to put a tent on the lawn and everybody goes outside to eat. And yeah, you can have space heaters and all of that, but is it the most comfortable? Is it the best? So, and they've been doing, I mean, this has been happening for a while. There's a lot of drawbacks, especially when there's an issue with the weather. They have issues with bathroom facilities because you've got to make shift stuff when you have a tent on the lawn This is actually something I do agree with. And I'm very particular about taxpayer dollars. This isn't even taxpayer dollars. It's all privately funded. See, the other stuff that other previous presidents added, I would say maybe with the exception of the creation of the East Wing originally, Everything else has been for presidential use. The Clintons added a music room that other presidents have added bowling alleys and pools. Gerald Ford added a pool. He wanted an outdoor pool, not just a lap pool, but a pool that he could swim in. You had Obama put in a basketball court. You had others put in tennis courts, all kinds of stuff. I mean, a lot of the stuff that they put in previously was stuff for their own personal use. This is something that's actually going to be used functionally for the White House. Because it can be a mess. And my friend was saying, because my friend has had to cover these events before, and my friend was saying that it's kind of a mess, especially if it's raining, when you have inclement weather, and... It also kind of some people have said that it people think that they're going to a state dinner at the White House. And then they realize they're not even going into the White House. They're going to a tent outside. And it is very expensive to get the kitchen stuff out there and set up the kitchen outside. And then they have to redo and basically put down turf every time they do one of these events. Also, where does where's Marine One land? Because Marine One always lands on South Lawn. So what happens when you got a big event and it's out there on the South Lawn and you got to help? You can't. That's where Marine One lands. So and when the tent is up, Marine One can't land. And the state dining room, if you look at going inside of the state dining room, that may be, I think they said it was like 120, 130 guests. State dinners, when you have leaders that come in there, that's a lot more than that. And they actually were, they made space, they were trying to make space even during Reagan's era in that East Wing. And the East Wing is a lot of unused offices and a lot of space that's actually not even entirely useful. So the bathroom situation, that's a whole other thing. And they can make it look really pretty out there. But you're outside in a tent and everybody knows it. And you have to walk outside to get into the tent. And they put the carpet down and all that stuff. But you guys know, ladies, you know how it is. It's not the best. You got wind, breeze, humidity, everything else out there. all these people go to this event to look nice for it and and then they go out there and you're out there in the humidity you're out there in the weather the the bathroom situation is abysmal it's a mess no matter how you do it so i actually think that this is a good move to so that way you can actually have a proper state dinner and the white house can hold these events And a lot of the other rooms in the White House, I mean, they're at capacity as it is and always have been originally. So why are people, why is this such a huge issue? It's privately funded. Everybody who's donated to it has been made public. You know how much has been donated. The president has also donated his own money. It is something that is going to be utilized pretty heavily for all events at the White House. So they don't have to move out antiques and historical artifacts from other rooms to accommodate people when they're trying to get as many people in to these other rooms for state events. So I have zero issue with this. I don't see one negative, Cain. I do not see a single drawback from any of this. No. I don't know. Yeah, my friend, who, by the way, can be very antagonistic towards government spending and even private donations because she always thinks they're trying to buy favor, which is true, was like, this has been so needed for so long that it is actually one of the best things. Forget about the Rose Garden. This is the thing that's needed. So I get that. I get that. And he also put up the flagpole, too. But this is going to be used by future administrations for years. It is so needed, so needed. We have more on the way. We've got Florida Man coming up. I always believe in caring. I have no problem throwing lead downrange towards anybody that poses a threat to me or my safety, my family's safety, etc. To that end, though, I also realize you've got to diversify your weapons array. One of the ways you can do that is with a Berna gun. This is, I think, especially for those college students that are under the age of 21, they can go overseas and carry full auto in defense of their country, but they can't carry it in defense of themselves over here while they're living alone going to college. It's asinine, but here we are. So this is where I would suggest a Berna SD or their newer one, compact launcher. Burna gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. And unlike ordinary stun guns, this thing has a 15 round shot capacity per cartridge, whereas stun guns have like maybe one or two rounds. It is super compact, there's no recoil, easy target acquisition. and you have a lot of options because it's legal in all 50 states. There's no background checks. There's no permits. They send it right to your front door, so it's accessible for everyone. Always give yourself a chance. You carry different calibers. You carry blades. There's no reason why you shouldn't diversify when you are restricted municipally or with private property restrictions. It's byrna.com slash Dana. It's the Byrna, C-L, byrna.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 22 :
I like the people who hide their drugs in bags that say no drugs. And then whenever they're stopped and they get searched, they say, no, there's no drugs in here. Look, it's a bag that says no drugs. This guy tried this with his house. So a man with a no drugs allowed sign on his house was charged with trafficking. Highlands County Sheriff's Office said they arrested John Moss, 76 years old. Cain hates old people. Hear him? He says old people aren't innocent over there. Hear him? They said that there was literally a placard, not just like a handwritten sign, like a professionally done sign that said, quote, absolutely no drugs allowed on the premises. They served a search warrant on the home. Oh, man, this guy was trafficking Oxycontin stuff. I can't pronounce morphine meth. He had a lot of meth, all kinds of stuff. So he was a baddie. But he's on he's in jail, multiple counts of drug trafficking and no bond. That's. Did he put that sign up? Do you think with the purpose of the cops showing up with a warrant going, oh, wait, the sign says no drugs allowed. We can't, you know, there's no drugs here. Might as well go home, guys. Yeah, might as well go home. It's all done, guys. We don't have to worry anymore. It's all done. I'm just, you know, wondering. All right. Also, a Florida, a woman mistakes a Florida man for her Uber and he kidnaps her. You got to be careful, man. Uber drivers, they they like 30 million trips per day worldwide. Usually there isn't an issue. But this Florida woman mistook a silver SUV for an Uber. She got into the vehicle. And then when she realized she was in the wrong car, the driver would not let her out. And now the sheriff's office down there is looking for a man in his 30s in connection with her attempted kidnapping. Kissimmee, Florida. And she misidentified the man. She thought the silver SUV was her Uber. And the driver was sitting there smoking dope at the time, offered her a ride. She got in and they went. And then he wouldn't let her out. He began making lewd and inappropriate comments. She demanded that he let her out. He would not. She began panicking, screaming and tried to get out of the car to escape. He sped up. So she tried to open the door. He sped up, which threw her off balance and she fell out of the car while it was moving. She was able to take a picture of the SUV and send the picture and describe the man to the police. But wow. I mean, always check those license plates, y'all. Always check them and then ask your driver's name. Don't ask if you're an Uber. Don't ask them if they're an Uber. Ask them for the name of the driver. Like, are you, you know, whatever? Are you Stan? Are you Joe? Are you?
SPEAKER 09 :
If someone gets in my car accidentally, I'm not going to try and kidnap them. I'm going to tell them to get the hell out. I don't know what this guy was doing.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, he's not. Also, like, who sits there and idles and your door's unlocked? I don't ever do that. I have got, I mean, my doors is locked. I don't unlock them until the person has their handle on the door. I just, I don't know. It's crazy. Let's see. Last but not least, a Florida man was arrested after toddlers were pictured with guns, beer, and dope. Yeah. Taylor Canoop or Noop. I don't know. Florida was arrested because apparently he there were he was charged with child neglect. The children were placed with relatives. He's the dad. And he apparently had all these photographs of his babies, like actual like two year olds and like nine month olds with guns and beer and drugs. Wow. He got way, way in trouble with that. We got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Third hour next. There's a lot to discuss as we move our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Patriot Mobile. It's the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the nation. And you. need to switch because they make it so easy it takes minutes to do and it takes minutes to do and you can you don't even have to go to the store you don't even have to go to the store you can you can stay in your home you can stay in your office whatever it is whatever is easiest they'll accommodate you they have a great us-based customer service team that will get you like all squared away uh all fitted up in minutes you got nationwide coverage that you can trust They have access to all three major U.S. networks. You don't compromise on quality for your values. You get unlimited data plans. Look, here's the big thing. You're paying less because they have plans that are tailored to everybody. But in addition to that, you're not having your money go towards the things that you vote against every time you're at the ballot box. We're in early elections here right now or early voting. Sorry. And Patriot Mobile, I know for a fact, has helped out with a lot of these very conservative voter minded issues that are on the ballot. They really work on your behalf. So your money isn't working against you. And if you get rid of your Netflix subscription because you don't like the ideals, but you haven't done it with your mobile service, you might as well go get 10 Netflix subscriptions because what you're paying for your cell phone service, the Netflix stuff is a drop in the bucket compared to that. So you need to make the switch today at Patriot Mobile. Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana and get a free month of service when you use promo code Dana. Veterans and first responders get 15% off of their bills every month. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana 972 Patriot promo code Dana.
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SPEAKER 11 :
They're doing everything by the book. Why does Chicago have the highest murder rate of all the big cities?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we are not in the top 30 in terms of our murder rate. Our murder rate has been cut in half over the last four years, and every year it's gone down by double digits. And if you look at all of the violent crime over the last four years, they've all gone down.
SPEAKER 11 :
Here's a map. Most populous U.S. cities, 17.47 per 100,000 population. Chicago is number one over Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Los Angeles, New York, and San Diego.
SPEAKER 10 :
What I'm explaining to you is when you want to fight crime, look, you can pull statistics up. No, no, these are murders. I'm explaining to you that our murder rate has been cut in half. And very importantly, Brett, and you've got to hear this, very importantly, we've been doing the things that are necessary to bring crime down, right? We've invested in community violence interruption. We've invested in police.
SPEAKER 22 :
No, they haven't, actually. In fact, the clearance for these cases have dropped dramatically as well. Meaning, you know, going after prosecuting, solving felonious felony crimes, etc. That's J.B. Pritzker, who is on with Brett Baier. And it's hysterical because J.B. Pritzker is going, well, yeah, like we we cut crime. We don't nothing's wrong anymore. And Brett Baier is like, yeah, well, here are the receipts and you're number one. in terms of homicide, your tops. And Pritzker's like, well, that's just a lie. We don't care about your receipts. It's a lie. We cut it in half. It's cut in half, but you're still number one. You cut it in half, but you're still number one. Imagine if you hadn't reduced anything, right? It's insane. These people are insane. But this is, that was his excuse. I think he's very far removed from the reality that happens on his streets every single day. Every single day. But I actually, I mean, they're cut in half and still number one. Why is the murder rate the highest of all time? We're not in the top 30. Yeah, but here's the map. And then here is all of the crime data as it's tabulated by your actual law enforcement agencies. And he's like, you can put up all the statistics you want. We've cut our murder rate in half. You're still number one, Lunchbox. You're number one. You cut it in half, you claim, and you're still number one? Jeez. I would not have gone past that. Don't get mad at Bret Baier because he did. You have to realize that, especially with some producers and, you know, some of the bigwigs with network news, they don't want you to stay on that topic forever because they don't think it's good television. They want you to get past it. It's like when, you know, fighters are kind of like hugging it out when they're resting in the ring. It's like sort of that's how they view it. So I get I get it. But I wouldn't let him go. I would have just stayed on him. Like, wait, we can't go. I mean, they're they're still number one. They are number one in terms of murder rate, murder and shootings, murder, shootings, all crime, violent crime, whatever. They're number one. I and they. I even with now, I will say they do have a reduction. They had a reduction with some violent crime. Do you know how they had a reduction with violent crime? You just it's crazy. But if you don't report it, then it's wild. It goes away. Is that wild? If you if you if a crime happens and you don't report it, did the crime happen? That's their whole MO. That's their whole thing with us. So they've done that in California. I mean, they've had since when Pritzker became governor in the city of Chicago. I mean, since 2019, you've had over 4000 people shot and killed. It's all like gang activity, drugs and gangs, drugs and gangs. Drugs and gangs. Now, a lot of people say St. Louis. Oh, well, St. Louis is actually. Well, hold up. Hold up. That's our hometown. I take exception to that. Yes, St. Louis has a butt-ton of crime. That's an actual quantifiable measurement, by the way. It has a ton of crime. But the reason that St. Louis City ranks number one is because St. Louis City is not incorporated into the county. That's why. So they look at number of crimes per person adjusted to the population, and so it looks incredibly high. Now, it's very high. It's definitely in the top five. But it's not number one because the only saving grace is it's not incorporated. It's very weird how the city and the county are set up. The city has its own government, its own everything. The county has its own government, its own everything. It's very odd. It's difficult to explain that to people who don't get it.
SPEAKER 09 :
The downtown numbers, as far as people living downtown St. Louis, have dropped dramatically thanks to Democrat policies, unfortunately. And so as a result, the percentages are larger. That's the reason.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, that's it. That's why. But Chicago, number one murder rate. And when he was saying that it was dropped in half, I mean, it's not actually dropped in half. He only reduced it. I mean, I would think, like doing the math, I think it's like barely 11%. He's like, oh, we cut it in half. He's trying to imply that he cut homicide by 50%. He didn't. And then he's trying to act like it's part of the decrease is because better policing. They've actually... have have hindered policing efforts and they declassified a lot of crimes and they just don't report things. Their their clearance for these felonies is like abysmal. I mean, it's not Detroit's, which is at 50, 15 percent, but it's like in the 20 something percent. And this idea that that is some big win for him. Can you imagine? No, you're still number one in murder. Yeah, but we cut it in half, so what up? You're number one in murder. That's not a... You need to get past you being number one right now. You're number one in murder. Oh my gosh. It's still pretty bad. I... I don't know. I mean, what is it, like 17, isn't it? I was looking at the rate. This is per 100,000. Isn't it like 17, something like that? Yeah. Over 17. Over 17. Oh, yeah, it is. Over 17, I'm looking at. Really bad, guys.
SPEAKER 09 :
In the latest budget, they've actually asked the Chicago Police Department to come up with 98 million in cuts.
SPEAKER 22 :
Because they're spending so much on their policing efforts, Kane. Yeah. They're spending so much on their policing. And that is a true story. They wanted a $98 million. They're having a city budget crisis in Chicago. How is that possible? I'm just so confused. How is that possible that they would have that? I mean, everything's doing great if you listen to J.B. Pritzker. It's kittens in sunshine up there. Everything's so good. They have all this time on their hands to go after ICE. Now, the Chicago police superintendent, Larry Snelling, was saying, guys, public safety is going to be greatly impacted if you cut $98 million out of our budget. Because they have budget deficit. They keep they keep spending or sorry, 92 million. They keep spending like crazy. They've they've spent on entitlements and on illegal aliens. And then they spend it on busing people up to go and fight with ICE. Speaking of which, this is a cut. I'm looking at what cut this is because they had a fight with ICE in Chicago. They keep having these situations where you have the ICE agents. It's not a cut. I think it is cut nine. We have a million cuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is a security guard. There's a news crew that is, and this is actually in California, but there was video that we had just the other day of them, again, attacking a facility in Chicago. This is in California, which is just like, I mean, Los Angeles is the same as Chicago. They were attacked during an anti-ICE protest. Watch.
SPEAKER 07 :
You have to ask me where I was going and stepping in front of me. Do you identify yourself as a Trump supporter or supporting ICE? I support neither. Okay, that makes no sense to me, I'm sorry man. I appreciate that. Do you need us to call somebody? You should report this. Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
He got bunched in the face and battered. And he's a security guard who was just there with a news crew. He was hired to work to accompany a news crew. And he was attacked by the protesters at an anti-ice protest in California. So, I mean, I don't know. I get why we're having all these. This is the reason why we're sending National Guard in is to protect these facilities and protect these agents. And that's the way it is. Man. So, you know, the debate that I have to do, I have to do a Second Amendment debate where I'm going to be debating Alan Dershowitz in Chicago of all cities on gun control. Actually, the question is, and I'm not going to give anything away. It's about the Second Amendment and safety, which I think is kind of a leading issue. premise already. But that's we'll have more at the time. We'll have more later. But Chicago is interesting because Chicago is also one of those cities that's fought against Glock. And we talked a little bit about that because they're discontinuing these models and they're switching. They're basically let me put it in layman's terms. The courts are bullying a company to alter their product because the criminals that they will not arrest won't stop doing illegal things with them and to them. I think that makes sense. That's it. That's it. That's the explanation. In California, AB 1127, there's a ban, the Glock sales ban. That's going to, I mean, that's about to become law. They passed that. in 2022 after they had the shooting that was in Sacramento. And remember the individual that was behind that, this was a guy who had been in prison and he was let out six years early because they had passed Prop 57. Again, this is all restorative justice nonsense. So they let this criminal out six years early. And of course that criminal who was already ineligible by way of his previous convicted felonious activity Got a Glock and you can't modify. You can't put these switches in it. That's already there's already federal law that bars that. And so he illegally against existing federal law and against existing state law in California modified it, modified something that he was already ineligible to possess. And then he went on a shooting spree, a gang shooting spree to kill a bunch of his rivals. And now. all the people in California, law-abiding gun owners who own Glocks, are going to be banned from purchasing them because the California justice system failed the innocents. California let this guy out six years early after they already had given him a very light sentence. And then what does he do? He immediately goes and previously goes and continues to commit more felonious activity. I'm going to tell you, the people who are going to murder are not going to be deterred from a low-level gun law. They don't care. They don't care. And a lot of them, they get them tossed anyway. Now, Gavin Newsom, because this legislature, he could veto it, but the legislature, I don't think, has overridden a veto since like in the 80s, early 80s. So we got some issues here. That's ultimately why that happened in California and Chicago. It's not any different. It's the same situation in Chicago because they were there were suing Glock for the same reason. You have people who are ineligible to carry a an inanimate object. And then they illegally modify because illegally because it's already against federal law, the inanimate object. And then they use it in more felonious in the commission, more felonies. And then the law abiding gun owners are the ones who get punished. That's the story of the Glock thing. That's the Glock. So that's the story of it. Just asinine. We have more on the way as we roll towards the. Bottom of this hour. And then Carol Roth will be joining us later as we move. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's the folks over at Relief Factor. If you want relief from everyday aches and pains, you need to check out Relief Factor. This is 100 percent drug free. It's a way to target inflammation that can keep you from doing the exercise that you need and enjoying the things that you love freely. and with maximum mobility. It's a, as I said, 100% drug-free research-based formula, all created to support healthy response to inflammation. decrease discomfort from exercise, everyday living, and it really helps to maintain healthy joints and muscles. So it promotes better movement and less pain over time. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's only 95 cents a day. It's less than a cup of coffee. Don't wait. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF to get your three-week quick start today for just $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you.
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SPEAKER 09 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
SPEAKER 22 :
So a doc was a... I do not want to... Oh, my gosh. Okay. If you guys had to get... Not saying that you would, but if you had to get private part surgery, would you go to visit a doc who did it from the back of his 1990 Toyota Corolla?
SPEAKER 09 :
What? No.
SPEAKER 22 :
Just... Are you sure? I mean, I get that people have done weird stuff with butt injections. I don't know. So this doctor was arrested. He was performing illegal male copulatory organ operations literally out of his 1990 Toyota Corolla. Yeah. His name is Pitaya Moolen. He's the shady surgeon there. It's an on the go genital enhancement surgery. That's what he's doing. And it was in Bangkok. And there's video of him legit doing it in Bangkok. And it was in a beaten up, I mean, 1990 Toyota Corolla. And then sometimes the customers would report him to the police. I guess they were unhappy. But he, Pearl, I don't even know what Pearl Implantation is. I am not Googling that. And apparently, I mean, they were literally going under the knife in his gray sedan parked on the side of a road. What? Yeah. Yeah. And he did not, guys, he didn't even sterilize anything. Oh my gosh. He goes, I've been doing this for about a year. I don't know what a pearl implant is, but he charges for it. Circumcisions and then the enlargement. Injections. Oh my gosh. It's like filler for your willer. I don't even know.
SPEAKER 12 :
The erection.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh my gosh, okay. I don't even understand what this is. Rectal oxygen delivery. They're trying to make butt breathing a thing. I swear to you guys, this is, it's a Nobel research, Nobel Prize research. Because many animals breathe through their backside or are capable of it. I don't know. This seems so stupid. What a weird collection of headlines. Sea cucumbers apparently do great. That's great. That doesn't mean I want to because a sea cucumber does. I'm not even going anywhere. There's like drawings. I'm not. I'm not. I cannot do that. I cannot do this headline. I feel like Casey Kasem. I can't go to a dead dog out of an uptempo song. I can't go talk to Carol Roth about math and talk about this. Stick with us.
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SPEAKER 25 :
So I think at this point, we should all be all in on what's happening. I mean, we had four years of a lot of mischief and sluggish economy and everything else and a lot of fake money. So we have to deal with a little bit of pain to have some gain, right? And I think we're going to have to just do that. I think this shrimp regard was interesting to me. I loved hearing that because our industry is the same. We have the lowest beef herd that we've had since 1950. And that is because so many people have gotten out of the industry over the years. And if we would have had this fair trade and our marketing would have been better when we could have exported more of our beef, I don't think we would have lost all these farmers and ranchers. And that's going to take some time to rebuild.
SPEAKER 22 :
And this is something that POTUS talked about. He had put out, I guess it was a tweet, well, it was reposted on X from his Truth Social account where he was getting into the ranchers. And he wanted a little, he wanted some more credit for what he's been doing to help the ranching industry. But this gets into this currency swap with Argentina. And Kane and I have been talking about this at length already. on break all throughout this week. Because my perspective, and again, I'm not an economist. This is why we're bringing on experts like my next guest that we're going to get into. Because I'm immediately looking at a currency swap and I'm thinking, is this a loan? Heaven forbid, is this a bailout to Libertarian Malai? What? And I know you're already looking. Stop with the... Stop it. I'm asking the questions.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just smiling. That's all. I know.
SPEAKER 22 :
So we're like, you know, we need to bring on to explain all of this to us. Like we're three. Carol Roth, who's like way smarter than at this than all of us. And she's got great hair to boot on top of it. And you guys know our very good friend, Carol. She's absolutely lovely. And she is a recovering. investment banker, entrepreneur, TV pun, New York Times bestselling author. And make sure you check out her newsletter at carolroth.com slash news. Carol, it is so good to see you. I'm sure you're about ready to pull your hair out at all of the questions like the ones that I just asked, because I know what I know and I know what I don't. And I know it's not exactly a bailout, but it really seems like one. So clarify this for us. What are we doing? What is this currency swap with Argentina?
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay, first of all, if you would have told me 10 years ago that I would be in the media explaining currency swaps with Argentina, I'd go, there's no way. But this is where we are today, Dana, so I will do my best. A currency swap is something that happens on a pretty regular basis. It's when we want to affect change maybe somebody's currency is struggling we're trying to create a situation where we don't have a global financial crisis typically central banks will have this swap line available where they trade currencies and then trade them back at some you know fixed price in the future um this is a little bit different with what's going on in argentina because we're not doing it through our central bank the federal reserve we're doing it through the treasury through something called the esf the exchange stabilization fund and we're not doing it with a com a country that's more stable that we usually do it with we're doing with it with a country that you know has some some some bigger issues with their their financial footing Now, there is a political reason, but that political reason has a real reason behind it. So if you're hearing some of the other media, you're saying, OK, there's a big election that's coming up in a few days in Argentina, and we're doing this to support Millet's government. And in a sense, that is very true. but we're not doing it because we love Millet's hair, although we do, we're a big fan of big hair or to be nice. We're doing it to protect our interests. So this is not about Millet so much. It's not about Argentina. This is about China. bottom line this is about china and it is about the fact that argentina holds a ton of resources including lithium they're one of the top lithium deposits in the entire world as well as some rare earth elements that we need to produce things like products for our defense and and the like and these are things that china is trying to move in on And so what we're doing is we're trying to get China out of Argentina, frankly, out of Latin America in a broader sense, shore up access to these very important elements and commodities that we need access to. And so the price of doing it is doing this currency swap. which, again, Treasury is doing. They're not they don't have to get Congress's approval. They don't need to get Jay Powell on board. And this is something that they do from time to time where they go rogue. And Scott Bassett goes, I'm smarter than you guys. We have to do this for the broader agenda.
SPEAKER 22 :
That is a great explainer. And she did it in like three minutes, not even three minutes. That's why Carol Roth is the best. If you guys are just joining us because that because we're I was looking at all this. I'm like there because I know Trump was looking at Biden. bringing in additional beef imports and it's all about, you know, ranching and beef and little lost in this is the toll hold that China has been trying to get, not just in Argentina, but also, you know, South America, Central America. And they are, you're right, loaded with those resources. So they can't be too happy about this.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, so basically China's had something called the Belt and Road Initiative, and they have deployed their capital to other countries. They have made loans. They have made investments because they want to have access to regular infrastructure. They want to have access to digital infrastructure, and they want to have every country in the world beholden to them because they saw what was happening in the United States, and they decided to make a move knowing that our financial situation uh foundation was quite broken and they've been doing that you know in their own neighborhood and now they're coming over our hemisphere uh and they've been doing that for a while and it is really um at the point in time where where we have smart people who are going this is a national security risk this threatens our economy this threatens our ability to defend ourselves So think of this, whether it's importing the beef from Argentina, it really has nothing to do with the fact that there's a shortage. It has everything to do with sweetening this deal so that Argentina will get on board from blocking China from making a bigger move, a bigger investment in that country and having that toehold. So this is our own version of doing a little bit of this belt and road. And I think as the global financial order starts to shift, we may see it where China basically dominates its hemisphere and that we try to have that toehold in our hemisphere. And I think that's one of the things that the Trump administration, very wisely, by the way, and you know that I'm not a fan of every one of their policies, but very wisely in this case, is doing and setting us up for the future. And hopefully, because we go in four-year cycles here, Four years from now, we will have an administration that continues with this policy because this is a long term threat to our country. And we do need to shore this up. So that's what it's all about. There's a lot of noise about it. It's not about beef. It's not about, you know, a bailout. It's not about anything else. It's about securing America's future by having these strong allies, having access to resources and not letting China take over the world. So if you don't want to speak Mandarin in the future, this is a good thing.
SPEAKER 22 :
I love that explanation. First off, bravo to Carol Roth. This is why she does what she does. That's, you know, our hats off. Because then that makes sense with this other stuff that I was seeing. All of, like, the swarm of these headlines that have been going after him. Oh, he's got to bail out. He's got to bail out from IMF. This is just basically debt. But it's not... Unless it turns active, from what I understand, the whole policy. But they're really trying to go at him because he's such an ally of the U.S. Now that makes sense when I see the swarm of these headlines that are attacking him and calling him a fake libertarian.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, and you also have to, again, go back to the fact that this is being done kind of off of the traditional books. This is this ESF, Exchange Stabilization Fund, that is used. And it's been used throughout history when we had the Plaza Accord, where we needed to strengthen the Japanese yen and weaken the dollar. That is what was used with this particular fund when we had to bail out Southeast Asia a couple of decades ago. because it doesn't require congressional approval. It doesn't require the Fed to get on board. It's something the Treasury can take to enact policy that is deeper, that is more long-term, that deals with these kinds of things. So if we have a situation where Millet's government is weakened And he you know, there's no longer this allyship with the United States and you get more people who want to go deeper with China. Again, that's going to be really bad for us. So, you know, is this in effect trying to help sway that election? Absolutely. But it's because of this long term relationship that we want to strike. And it's because we're trying to protect our own national security.
SPEAKER 22 :
It's asymmetrical warfare in the financial sector. That's really what it is.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, that's that's that's such a great that's such a nice little wrapper that you've created there.
SPEAKER 22 :
It's only because you set it up, Carol. So you just set it up and I just I just hit the ball. That's it. So this now is Congress going to take this might be a dumb question. Because we're talking about Congress. Are they going to take the opportunity to say, oh, well, now that we're doing these, maybe we can reduce some of these regulations and some of this oversight that we have that drive up the cost of farming and ranching domestically? I mean, it would be great if they could do that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, that's a great thing. So if we kind of take this other piece aside and we talk about the issues that are affecting our ranchers and the other people or farmers, people who are producing our food, there are so many insane barriers and regulations that make it more costly and more difficult for them to do business. And if you want them to not only be able to feed everybody in America, but maybe do more exporting to the world, the easiest way to do that is to reduce these regulations. I mean, there are so many things that I hear, you know, people want to buy something from their cousin's farm in a different state and they can't because of some, you know, silly law. That is the way, you know, forget about the tariffs and the imports and whatnot. We can deal with this issue at home and just make it easier to do business, which again, makes all of the sense in the world. Now, do I have a lot of faith that Congress is going to go Yeah, that makes sense. We should definitely do things so that we can continue to grow our economy and shore up our food supply. They've never proven that they have any level of common sense to do that. But everybody that is listening has a voice and has the ability to call their congressmen, their representatives. and to tell them that these kinds of things are important. And if you get like 20 people to all call the same day, they think it's a hair on fire problem because nobody actually calls them about anything. And all of a sudden they get 20 calls, this becomes an issue. So we need, again, to put pressure. We have so many protests in this country about absolute nonsense, but the things that are important Things like supporting the people who feed us and reducing barriers and letting small businesses get back to work. You know, this is how we continue to have growth in this country. This is how we continue to have prosperity. It makes all the sense in the world. It's an easy thing to do. We just need the political will. And that starts with our own voices.
SPEAKER 22 :
Absolutely. And there it is. Our good friend Carol Roth. You can find her. Get her newsletter. You can find her online on X. But make sure you go to carolroth.com slash news and at caroljsroth across all platforms. Carol, always so good to see you. And thank you so much for brilliantly putting this so easy to understand. We appreciate you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, we're going to do our own currency swap one of these days, Dana. I'll take custody of one of your sweaters. I'll give you some money in advance and we'll just kind of move them back and forth.
SPEAKER 22 :
Perfect, that they're all black. But that's all your vibe too. So that's why we get along so well.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's why we get along. Carol, good to see you. Have a great weekend.
SPEAKER 22 :
All right, have a great weekend.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 22 :
But that one can because she has balls. That's why. Like, let me just hit this ball. That's what it is. That's what just happened. Now you have two California high school girls that are sitting out of their volleyball game, cut 34, due to a dude being on their team. Watch. They're not playing. They're sitting there. They don't want to play against the dude. They don't want to play against a dude. Because there's a dude out there. I wouldn't want to get hit in the head by that dude. Would you?
SPEAKER 09 :
As a woman, no.
SPEAKER 22 :
I mean, he's like their height in the air. Because he's a man. That's why having a man on women's sports teams is so... insane i we're going to look back hopefully on this point in our culture and be like the hell was happening i'd do that now well yeah but i mean maybe some of the people in the future that supported us are going to look back and go what in the world like what were we doing
SPEAKER 09 :
I've seen the point online, which is hilarious, where it's like, oh, you just want to put trans athletes in. I'm going to bet on the trans athlete boxer. Oh, I didn't even think about that. You know what I mean? Like, you could totally just win. You know what? Hold up, hold up.
SPEAKER 22 :
I take everything back. No, shh. I take everything back. No, I like this now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, the FBI's all over this gambling stuff now. No, shh.
SPEAKER 22 :
No, it's, oh, they said it's totally, hey, Steve, that's legit now. If the dude is going to be, say, in a boxing match against a chick and you're betting, it's not illegal to make a bet.
SPEAKER 24 :
True. There's no trans athletes in professional sports for a reason right now.
SPEAKER 22 :
I mean, just saying. We're horrible. It's like having, like, I mean, women can't compete at the same level in men's league, so it's like you would have to get, like, a literal Sasquatch to go then and play in the men's league, you know? Like an actual Bigfoot. Just shave it and then put it on the men's team. You know, he can't really verbalize beyond some chirping and howling, but it's a dude. It's like, I think we just found a way to make a lot of money gambling. No, I'm all for this now. I'm going to start gambling and sports. I will bet on the men against the women in the sports leagues. I think that's a good bet to take. I'd take that bet. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, imagine all the Olympic sports.
SPEAKER 22 :
I don't need no special glasses. By the way, following the NBA. betting story is exhausting. All of the things these people did to cheat at gambling, I have never wanted to win anything so bad that I would go through that extent. They have special glasses to see the cards. Special glasses. It's like James Bond. Look at this. You can see everything. It's like James Bond. This is insane. You can see all of it. They got it all marked. So you'd wear them. No one. Wait, if you're sitting at a poker table and you're wearing sunglasses, no one else is going to go.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I mean, that's kind of a common thing. Well, you're playing poker. You don't want people to see your eyes and you don't want to give those tells that normal people give.
SPEAKER 22 :
I got to do is just hold those emotions. I could just sit there and stare. Wouldn't have no idea. What do I have?
SPEAKER 1 :
Nothing.
SPEAKER 22 :
I have a horrible hand. All right. Today in stupidity came.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, Juan, this is Cut 11. This is actress Jennifer Welch. Not making much sense here. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 23 :
I know. I mean, like, Stephen Miller is a white supremacist. I mean, he is. And he's basically running the White House. They keep Trump busy with his decorating projects. He's got building the arch now. He's got his overall office design. Who is this woman? Hold on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Keep going. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 23 :
Anti-Semites. True white supremacists like Stephen Miller. And even though he's Jewish, he's like a Nazi Jew.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, for the love. I had to Google her. She is an interior designer. Why is she on? Who cares about her opinions on politics? By the way, like, you know, have your injector be more precise. Have a great weekend.
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In this episode of Seculo, we delve into the dramatic decision by Jack Smith to testify before Congress, opting for a public setting over the conventional closed-door approach. Our hosts, Logan Sekulow and Will Haynes, spar over the implications of this choice and discuss how it could affect transparency in government and public perception. The episode also explores the strategy behind Smith’s response to congressional requests and its potential benefits to American citizens. We welcome callers to weigh in on whether this kind of spectacle serves or hinders the public interest.
SPEAKER 04 :
In a shocking move, Jack Smith says he wants to publicly testify before Congress. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110.
SPEAKER 03 :
And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. I thought I was going to have a day where I didn't have to start the show with saying the words Jack Smith. But these producers all around me said, Logan, you have no choice. I offered. I offered you an out today. But the out was mediocre at best. That's fair. They said, Logan, we have to say Jack Smith. You say it three times like Beetlejuice. You do three shows in a row and he appears. Before Congress. That's what he wants to do. You see, you beat me to it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sorry, I stole your joke.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is what Jack Smith wants to do. As you may remember yesterday, and Will, you can kind of brief everyone, old Jimmy Jordan, he said, you know what? I think it's time we hear from the man himself, but let's do it behind closed doors. We'll release the transcripts, all of that. Let's make this a serious discussion. Hold on. Jack Smith says, I'll show up, but I want to do this in front of those cameras. I want to make this a spectacle. And you know what? As much as it's political and as much as it's hacky and as much as I think that this is how you avoid actually having to answer a lot of the big questions, I don't want to see it. And it's going to give us a lot of content to talk about on this show. It's going to give us some new sound bites. You know, I think as a producer like you do, that there are some benefits to this for us, but maybe not for the American people.
SPEAKER 05 :
And for accountability. That's right. Right. So what we have here is a response from the attorneys representing Jack Smith. And this is addressed to both Jim Jordan and Chuck Grassley. Chuck Grassley is famous for his oversight going after the Department of Justice a lot of times because he has a very soft spot for whistleblowers. He has made his whole career about protecting whistleblowers and getting accountability in the federal government. And this is a response to the request that was made last week by Jim Jordan to the former special counsel, Jack Smith, to appear in a transcribed interview. How does that typically work? Behind closed doors? Yeah, a little bit less formal than a deposition, but more like a deposition because it's a call to transcribe interview. There's more room to negotiate what the topics are, the parameters, things of that nature. It's a little bit less formal, but it also tends to be a more serious investigative step. It's one stop before a full deposition. If you ask for that, you're not going forward with a subpoena yet, which they had not done. So we've been waiting to kind of see what the Jack Smith response would be. And now we have it. And I actually think for his attorneys and for Jack Smith, it's a very clever response. One, they're already starting to lay out giving themselves kind of some roadblocks to the congressional oversight by saying that he's prepared to answer questions about the special counsel's investigation and prosecution, but requires assurance from the Department of Justice he will not be punished for doing so. He's no longer a member of the government, no longer special counsel. So he's saying, you can't punish me if I come talk to you. He also needs guidance from the DOJ regarding federal grand jury secrecy requirements and authorization requirements. on matters he may speak to regarding things, among which is volume two of the final report, which is not publicly available. He also, in addition to provide full and accurate answers to the answers of Congress, the questions of Congress, Mr. Smith requires access to the special counsel files, which he no longer has ability to access. So already starting to build this like, hey, I need assurances from DOJ. I need the permission from DOJ. I need access to all my old stuff if you really want me to. So already putting a burden on Congress and the government. But then here's how it ends it. With the guidance and access described above, Mr. Smith is available to testify in an open hearing at your earliest convenience. So not what Jim Jordan was asking for. but kind of flipping the script and saying, let's do this out in the open.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, I kind of dig it. I get that you want to push back and your lawyer's like, let's figure out the best opportunity for you. So I understand why they'd want to do that. I also understand why the American people would find it incredibly interesting. What do you want? Do you want this to be a closed door thing? Or hey, are you like us a little bit as just sort of fan of the game, wanting to see a little bit on the inside? Let me know. Would you rather me never say the words Jack Smith on this show again? Put that in the chat. Let the producers know. And phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are lighting up. We've got a couple open still at 1-800-684-3110. As we always do, we've got to restate the facts here on Segment 2 because a lot of you skipped Segment 1. You miss all the fun. Really. You should go back and listen. That's when we have good times. This is the fact-based segment. By the way, later on in the show, Rick Grinnell's going to be joining us. We're going to talk a bit about the outrage over the East Wing. And look, sometimes you got to take back what you said. We said, hey, look, they're like removing a facade. I saw the construction pictures. It's a lot. They took down the whole wing. Pretty big wing. Yeah. I have a picture in the East Wing in the old movie theater. Gone. But you know what? That's okay. That movie theater... It was built in the 70s. It was built for, I think, the Carter administration. It's a pretty tight... It was a tight... Maybe you need them recliner chairs.
SPEAKER 05 :
They call it the Real D. What do they call the... Oh, that 40X?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's it. Moves around? Yeah. Trump's like, I want to move around. I want the smoke machines. IMAX only. Yeah. Oh, what? IMAX in the... That's why the new wing is so big. That's why they need the ballroom.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Someone call Jimmy Cameron. Right. All right, for Avatar, I want it done before Avatar 3 because that's why the construction is so fast all of a sudden. He's like, I gotta get it done by Christmas. Gotta watch that new David movie by Angel Studios. I like that King David. All right, let's go ahead and restate the facts here. Well, that's not what we're talking about for this segment. We're talking about old Jack Smith. And old Jack Smith, you remember yesterday, Jim Jordan said... It wasn't yesterday.
SPEAKER 05 :
It wasn't yesterday? A lot of this runs together for you. That was last week. I politely corrected you in the earlier segment. I think you're wrong. I am not wrong. Jim Jordan asked this last week? He did. He indeed did. What did we talk about yesterday? Well, Logan, if you would pay attention, you would know. I don't know. It was yesterday. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have a feeling it was the words Jack Smith. Okay. We'll figure it out. Guess what? There's a permanent archive. So we can find out what it was. Okay. While you're looking.
SPEAKER 05 :
up i don't know we did a video a day ago called jim jordan bombshell evidence and that was john brennan jack smith's shocking attack against the shutdown by the way just so we're clear okay day before that john jack smith's shocking attack against ted cruz that was earlier this week but we was not jim jordan though the jim jordan i'm saying i love that we're doing this right now this is the moment we need to do it you said yesterday jim jordan that's all i'm gonna go i
SPEAKER 03 :
Who was he? It's hard to remember other than another name we don't care for. Jack Smith. They want him to come up. They want him to testify. They want to do it behind private closed doors, release the transcripts, all of that, make it very, in a good way though, professional, dark, seedy. But what he wants to do is put it up in front of the cameras, make it all razzle dazzle, make it a moment because we know, you know what these politicians do, including these guys, they love the cameras, right? They do. They need their moment in the sun because if you get another moment, you get another book. That's how it works. Another book no one reads. But you know what? You get that advance and that's all they care about. Let's go ahead and actually take a phone call about this because we have one coming in and what I wanted to do is inspire you to call in. Tom, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, good morning gentlemen, or good afternoon. Thank you. Let me first say, thank you for all that you do try to expose this criminal behavior, because frankly, unless you hold these people accountable, they're going to keep doing the same thing over and over again. So as your question about, should this be an open hearing or a closed hearing? This absolutely should be a closed door hearing with transcripts taken because the The politicians are going to grandstand and showboat and try to obfuscate anything that is uncovered by Jim Jordan and the other Republicans. It's just disgusting what this guy has done. And the rest of the weaponization of the government, they need to be held accountable.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tom, I tend to agree with you. Now, to Logan's point, you know, I like the spectacle. I'd like to see it. I'd like to see it. But in reality, and that's part of the thing. Logan, there's a reason people get tired of hearing about Jack Smith, because it's over and over and over again, because we keep seeing more and we know the corruption. But it is, as Tom points out, important to keep telling people about it, especially as new information comes out. And in reality, what Tom is saying is exactly correct. The reason that John Brennan was referred for criminal prosecution by Jim Jordan this week was because of things he said in a transcribed interview. If it were before Congress, where you have members of Congress you've never heard of trying to make a name for themselves, shouting at a witness on the stand, you don't normally get to the substance of stuff. You don't get to get in the nitty gritty, the timelines, where you find out the real facts. And that's what I think Jim Jordan was wanting to do. We even said that. I like that they were not saying... you're coming before congress an open hearing we're going to find out and get to the bottom of this he was doing real investigative accountability oversight work by calling him in for a transcribe interview i think it's extremely smart of the attorneys for jack smith and jack smith himself to ask for this to be an open hearing also he's getting ahead of this by sending it to chuck grassley as well because the request came from jim jordan But he says right at the front, we have received Jim Jordan's October 14th letter and are aware of Chairman Grassley's interest in testimony from our client as well. So already getting ahead of it, trying to show to people that, look, we're willing to talk. We'll do this. We'll even do it in the open. We're not afraid. But in reality, they know what those turn into. And they know that with also this big list of requests. These are the type of things you would negotiate out in that transcribed interview format. Like, hey, here's what we need from DOJ. Here's the assurances we need. But they're putting all that in the open. It's a faux transparency really to throw people off and be like, look, he's got nothing to hide.
SPEAKER 03 :
In theory, it worked how it should work. And these events, like you say, don't become just one person being yelled at or being able to really avoid the questions. Yes, in theory, this is the way that it should be done, I believe. A lot of this should be transparent in front of the American people. You also don't have to worry about not understanding the tone. You can't be taken really out of context because everyone's heard it. You know what they're saying. It's like a text message will never be as clear as a phone call. However, it's just simply not what we live in. It's not the reality we live in. So while, yes, the broadcaster in me and the curious American in me wants to see it happen, in front of the public. I understand why it shouldn't. However, that should be something we need to look at getting better at as well. Maybe need to be electing better officials. So in these big hearings, it's not all grandstanding that things can happen in front of the American people and not turned in to everyone gets their minute for their ad later on for their sound bites that they can put in a commercial to hopefully get reelected. We live in this constant cycle that sadly, uh, we have to now fight back against these things happening in public? That sounds ridiculous. It feels like we should be able to say, have all of this out to where the American people can see it. You work for us. It's not the other way around. However... Again, that's not the way things are. You have to look at reality. It's like the idea of war. Do I like war? No. Do I wish there was no war? Yes, I wish that we could say that as someone who is nonviolent and would like to push anti-violence, that there should be no war in the world. However, that's not realistic. There is war in the world. And because there is war in the world, you can't just live in a world of being a complete pacifist who says, well, I'm an anti-war person. I don't believe in war. You don't have to believe in it. It's happening. We can get to a better place. but that's going to be a long-term thing. I understand why Jim Jordan wants to have a serious conversation. One that can be also, like you said, somewhat, it's not more casual, it's obviously more serious, but it can be treated a bit more, less combative.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and as well, another thing that I take away from this, from the attorneys representing Jack Smith, is if you remember back when Bob Mueller testified right after the Mueller report, He didn't know where things were in it. He was able to get around. At the end of the day, he didn't really say much of anything in an open hearing. I feel like a lot of these requirements, whether it be guidance on federal grand jury secrecy requirements, things like that, the DOJ can't waive things like that. He wants assurances he won't be punished. He's already building the case for in an open hearing of saying a lot of nothing. Whereas behind closed doors, there probably would be more opportunity assurances that, and a lot of times those transcripts aren't made public immediately or sections maybe, or they may be redacted that if it were behind closed doors, he would have a lot less escape routes. But when it's on TV is be like, I can't put this out publicly or, or even I don't have access to the special counsel files. Okay. You've got them and you have a week to go through. It gives you a lot of opportunities to be like, I don't recall that. I don't recall what you're referencing. Could you get me a copy? I'll get back to you in writing. It's a very savvy way to get before Congress and before cameras and say a lot of nothing. I think the other factor here is that what Congress is now looking at, last night, Chairman Grassley did release some documents that were given to him by the FBI that showed Attorney General Merrick Garland, the Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco, as well as the FBI Director Chris Wray signed off on Arctic Frost investigation. So a lot of what they may be getting from Jack Smith is what was being shared with them. What did they know? They may be called to testify now as former government employees. They also can't say as much because they aren't in the government anymore. But it makes it a lot more interesting when you see that the FBI is discovering more files, turning them over to Congress that is giving us a more full picture of what was going on at this time. All while Jack Smith is saying, I want to talk in public.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. We'll keep continuing that conversation. But we're also going to talk about the amazing work of the ACLJ. I think you need to hear this. What we're doing in the Supreme Court right now, you're not going to want to miss it. Stay tuned. This is why things are important. We've got to cover the news. I understand that. The ACLJ work is why we're here. We're going to get to that coming up next segment, and then Rick Grinnell. Welcome back to Secula. We are going to take a lot of calls coming up in maybe later this segment, definitely in the next segment, because a lot of you called in and we're going to get to that, but I did want to pivot just a moment. You know, the work of the ACLJ continues and we, you know, we got to cover the news of the day. We got to talk about what's going on. We know a lot of you tune in, a lot of you brand new people tune in because you want to get the facts from us. Maybe you're watching on the Salem news channel. Of course, we're going to discuss one of the top topics of the day that at least was within our wheelhouse. However, that's not the ACLJ's primary function as an organization. You may go, Hey, you may not be brand new to us. You may not know what that even is. The ACLJ stood for the American Center for Law and Justice. It is a nonprofit law firm for religious freedom and free speech. And of course, bound by the Constitution. But it was founded by my family. It's been something we've been doing for over 35 years this year, been celebrating 35 years. But even more than that, if you talk about the work before it was officially branded the ACLJ, we've been around for a long time, really representing everyone from you, the individual who maybe has problems in their local school district. Maybe you wanted to celebrate Christmas or maybe you want to start a Bible club in the 80s. the ACLJ was there, or maybe you were the president of the United States. The ACLJ is there and that's precisely what's going on right now. And I wanted to tell you more about this because also the ACLJ's legal work is at zero cost to the client. That's right. So if you ever need us and it's within the wheelhouse of what we do here within our sphere, all you gotta do is go to aclj.org slash help, fill out a very simple form immediately. You're not going to some call bank or something like that. You are immediately attached to a lawyer who will let you know whether They want more information or whatever it may be, but that happens immediately and it's never at any charge to you. And the way we're able to do that is because we are a nonprofit. You are able to donate and support this work at ACLJ.org that not only supports that part of the organization, our incredible legal work and some of the best legal minds and youngest, brightest legal minds too. We bring in so many new great lawyers each and every year, but also our media side, our operation, which includes this show. Every time you've ever seen us post anything, anything that goes on in the world of the ACLJ comes out of this. And all of it is because our work internationally, all because you donate to the ACLJ. But Will, I wanted to give a moment here because ACLJ is once again finally at the Supreme Court. We have appeared in front of the Supreme Court dozens of times. Supreme Court of the United States, obviously your district courts and all of that. But this is a very specific one and this is one that has to do once again with President Trump.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. So this case is captioned Trump versus Slaughter, which kind of sounds like the main event at WrestleMania.
SPEAKER 03 :
I feel like we should have given that title to the guy who writes the titles for YouTube because that would have been Trump v. Slaughter. YouTube may be like too scary.
SPEAKER 05 :
So now the name is a lot better than what kind of the case itself is. This is when President Trump fired one of the Federal Trade Commission commissioners. And this happened earlier in his term. And that... commissioner this term though correct correct this is at the beginning of the year uh the federal trade commissioner slaughter sued saying you can't fire me because we are an independent agency in the executive branch and congress set it up that way therefore you can't fire me and a court actually said you must reinstate this commissioner The president then took to the Supreme Court, got a stay on that. So this individual has not been reinstated yet while the Supreme Court hears the case. We are filing on the case, the merits of this case. And what we really get into is something that the ACLJ has fought for for a long time. And that is preserving the constitution from the intrusion of the kind of quasi fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy. When Congress has set up all these hurdles, for the executive to do their job and faithfully execute the laws of this country, which is in the Constitution, by putting up these things that block the president from being the executive over these agencies, whether it be Federal Trade Commission, the FCC, the Federal Reserve, even the way they say, no, you can't really get too involved. And it actually sparked an entire special counsel investigation of firing the FBI director. The executive branch is the president himself. And all those people report to him. And when Congress tries to put up ways to make independent agencies like the FTC and set this up so that the executive can't be the executive, that's really flying in the face of what the founders wanted. So what we argue here... Let's now brief on... why we get involved and what we're doing that's right so we have filed a brief in support of the government's position that the president is the unitary executive and should have the ability to do these things do things like be the executive over these agencies even though congress has set it up because It is the duty of the president to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. And so they need this oversight and authority over these independent agencies. And there was actually a case that we are arguing that would be overturned as a part of this. This was Humphreys executor versus the United States from 1935. which permitted Congress to shield federal trade commissioners from removal by the president. So it would be a very much a precedent setting case by reversing something that was decided in 1935 by the Supreme Court when the Federal Trade Commission was completely different than it is now, before the bureaucracy was so bloated, before they had all this rulemaking process and investigatory power that is shielded from oversight of the executive, the president himself. that we are wanting it to be a way forward so that there is not this fourth branch of government. This is what even the book Undemocratic that your dad wrote years ago, this has been a long fight for the ACLJ to preserve the co-equal three branches of government in our Constitution and push back on the deep state, the fourth branch of government, this quasi bureaucratic state that has so much power, has so much power to investigate people, to ruin lives, to regulate, to create law through the rulemaking process outside of congressional legislation. That's why this is so important. So you may hear Federal Trade Commission like, I don't even really know what does it even do? You know, what is that really? Do I really care? It's not so much about this individual being removed as it is about the preservation of the original intent of the Constitution itself. to strengthen the three branches of government that are co-equal branches and to push back, as we have for decades here at the ACLJ, against a bureaucratic state that is able to operate outside the framework of the U.S. Constitution.
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SPEAKER 04 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Second half hour of Sekulow coming up. If you don't get us live, by the way, and you're listening to this later on, archive, join us live each and every day, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday. We're live on ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, however it is. But on YouTube and Rumble, I know the conversations kind of break out. People have their own breakout conversations in the chat. It's always fun. I'm a part of them. I'm always watching what happens. People are saying in the chat, because I like to know if it kind of refers back to what we're talking about. If you guys like what we're talking about, it's a great bellwether for us. It's a great way to even just like check on, hey, is this something that's important to you? Is this Jack Smith situation? I'd say the numbers always say that it is. Is it important to you? What do you think? Put it in the chat if you're watching right now. Of course, you can call in. We're going to take some phone calls. Might as well take some phone calls right up the top because the next segment we're going to be joined by Rick Grinnell as well. There's an ACLJ champion who's been on hold for a while, which is not usually the case. If you're an ACLJ champion, something that gives on a monthly basis, your first step, I put you to the top of the list, just my rule. It's not anything in official paperwork that says that. I just like it as a little perk. But Martin's been on hold for 20 minutes, still the first person on the show. Martin, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, sir. I want to say that I understand both of the sides of having closed door or open form with Jack Smith. I think that the committee can be more savvy than he is. But the thing I think that we need to think about is driving home the point of where the real constitutional crisis is coming from. The Jack Smith, James's shifts. willis's the rogue judges so people can make the right right choice to follow what is right and the constitution has been the right guidelines for that but abused by the left and of course they're always talking about constitutional crime and jack smith was part of that crisis he was not constitutionally put in office. He did not constitutionally follow process. So those things can be brought out in an open forum for everybody to see. And I know that there are going to be obstacles that they want to grandstand and everything else.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Martin, again, in a perfect world, a lot of this could be held in public.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Well, and when you also think that there is also a difference in the way the House hearings run and the Senate hearings, a lot of times the Senate hearings are a little bit more tailored and serious. Yes, they are still looking for their moments and they pop, but there are a lot more members of the House. These committees are larger. And and a lot more members that are firebrands that really want to get up there and just make a show of it. But I agree with you. I think there is benefit to public hearings. I think that there is benefit to sunlight on the process. I do have concerns, though, if if this is the end of it. Do it in public. If they are genuinely looking for accountability, I think have the hearing behind closed doors and get that out there. Maybe do both. You can. They can do both. They can do a portion before the committee and open session, and then they can take it for further interview behind closed doors. So I think that maybe that could be a way forward. Because it is something the American people are interested in. And Martin even brought up the process. I mean, he was Justice Clarence Thomas that brought up in a brief, in one of the concurring opinions on a brief, an opinion from the Supreme Court, that it was even questionable whether or not that Jack Smith and the Office of Special Counsel is constitutional. So... There are a lot of questions around this and Congress can make adjustments and legislation in their oversight to even go beyond these individuals to make sure this never happens again. And I think that's just as important as accountability if there was malfeasance and criminality that may have arisen out of some of these investigations. I think Martin's very on point with that. Yes. Accountability isn't just with these people. It is also with the entire process as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Hey, phone lines are still open for you. In the next segment, we're joined by Rick Grinnell. We may take a call or two. But in the end, last segment of the show, I take as many calls as I can. So get on hold. Get in line. We'll do our best to get to all of you today at 1-800-684-3110. In the next segment, we're going to talk about the outrage. What's the big outrage? Of course, the remodeling of the White House. I'm sure you're losing a lot of sleep over it. But it feels like the left is. They're just sitting up there and they're going, I can't believe they took down a piece of plywood.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was our East Wing. Yeah. This is your house. It was the people's East Wing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome back to Seculo. Rick Grinnell is joining us today. As always, always good to hear from Rick. And Rick, of course, the outrage of the day seems to be really related to people's emotional connection to the East Wing of the White House. Something that I have a feeling 95% plus of Americans couldn't even tell you what was in it or what it was or who cares. I mean, this becomes another one of those stories that they're running with. And of course, you see the construction pictures and Yes, it looks like a construction site, as you'd expect. And people start throwing out allegations. Some of my friends who post, I've worked on these kind of renovations before. How is he able to get it done so fast? All of these theories start happening, Rick, and I'm sure you're sitting there and you're just as upset about a building of a ballroom. It's what's keeping you up all night.
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, I could take some of this criticism and more seriously if it wasn't from the people that are outraged about everything. It doesn't matter what it is. It's like a different six hours. Every six hours, they have a new outrage. And so I kind of get over it. I see my friends on Facebook and I see my friends on Twitter. It's the same people who are outraged about this and then they're upset about that. And so I kind of dismiss it. What I think is being lost here is that you do demolish when you rebuild. And I don't see a single person saying that Donald Trump doesn't build beautiful things. I see people just saying, why is this being torn down? It seems extremely limited. This is next point that I'm going to make is extremely inside baseball, Logan, but it's very important point. The White House has very limited capacity to do big events. It's a small space. If you've ever even seen the White House, most people look at it and go, that's it? Wow, that's really small. And so it's needed for a long time. I've been around since the George W. Bush days, and there's very limited capacity to be able to go to the White House for a big event. And President Trump has done two things to try to improve that. Try to improve so that there's more space for people to attend and more people get to experience the White House. Two things. One, the Rose Garden, I'm sorry to tell everybody who's complaining about it, was unusable because it was grassy swamp wet. What President Trump did is literally be able to use it and it's now a patio because he put very beautiful marble and pavers down. And so now women can walk on it. Women who had high heel shoes couldn't even go in the Rose Garden area because their shoes would sink. into the grass and so therefore it wasn't even really used that often. Now you can use the rose garden. The second part is there's a space on where the East Wing lobby part was that is now going to be expanded quite a bit. And you're going to be able to have this huge ballroom. That's going to be fantastic so that more people can come and do dinners or events and more groups can participate. This is really, truly going to be a greater accessibility for the people of America to try to get more people into the White House.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm glad you brought it up and I felt that way too as someone who has spent a little bit of time not near as much as you but same thing started going to the White House during the George W. Bush administration later on was there obviously during the Trump administration the idea of it the visual of it again it's inside baseball and it feels very elitist when you talk about it but you're right I mean these events have been to Christmas parties where the room that you go and meet the president in the photo line if you will smaller than this studio that I'm sitting in right now and uncomfortable and maybe dangerous and uh you know just in general just because the way they haven't formatted uh you know the hallways were crammed they were putting tables in hallways because you couldn't have people where it is i know it sounds a ridiculous thing that we're sitting here me and you having to sit here and defend a ballroom because in general of the problems that america faces it's the least but you are right in the sense that now if you want to say it's the people's house you'll actually have an opportunity potentially like you said to have a much larger amount of people to have that access and, of course, a comfortable environment more fit for the United States of America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, this is kind of a contrast because there's unlikely voice of reason in this whole debate. And this was a tweet that came out yesterday. This was from Sean King, who never thought I would be showing a tweet in a positive light or quoting anything. But he of BLM fame and the whole that era says, I actually think it's a great idea to build a big ballroom on the White House grounds. It's virtually impossible to hold events of any size there. And they're always wasting millions on tents and heaters and chairs and lights and everything else. Stop acting like you have some emotional attachment to the East Wing. You don't. So voice of reason coming from not a place I'd expect agreeing with Rick Grinnell. But then you have the minority leader of the House of Representatives, Hakeem Jeffries, going on the media, on MSNBC, saying this about it, bite one.
SPEAKER 02 :
More likely, this is part of what Donald Trump has been doing since day one of his presidency, running the largest pay-to-play scheme in the history of the country and probably soliciting donations from people who've got business before the United States government. And all of this is going to have to be Investigate it. It will. All of this will have to be uncovered. It will. And these people are going to be held accountable no matter how long it takes. That's going to be the reality of the situation. And that's our warning to all of these people participating in this scheming to manipulate taxpayer dollars and, of course, to destroy the people's house. The White House belongs to the American people. It doesn't belong to Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 05 :
Rick, what bizarro world are we in where Sean King is the voice of reason and Hakeem Jeffries is basically threatening investigations and the inference there, holding accountable if he were to become the next Speaker of the House, maybe an impeachment over a scheme. It's not like this is building a ballroom at Mar-a-Lago. This is the White House. He's not taking this with him. This is for the American people. I wanted to get your thoughts.
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, I hope Hakeem Jeffries is the leader of the Democrats in the House forever. He's so fantastic because, one, he's completely unlikable, and two, he never makes sense. And he's as radical as they come. I would just say to Hakeem Jeffries, you lost Shaun King in your arguments. I think game over. When MSNBC and Hakeem Jeffries sit around trying to make arguments and Shaun King doesn't agree with them, you know they're gonna get wiped out in the midterms. They don't have any ideas. All they do is attack Republicans and attack Trump, and they're completely devoid of ideas. They literally are left to say, we don't want a big space at the White House. It's almost like they think they're never going to get back to the White House and be able to use the ballroom. because they just think Republicans are going to own it forever and they will never get a chance to invite a whole bunch of people to the ballroom or to the Rose Garden. I hope, again, that Hakeem Jeffries continues to be the spokesperson for the Democrats. Every time he speaks, we get more people on our side.
SPEAKER 05 :
Rick, just the final question here. And I think this is what gets to the heart of it. Obviously, you're seeing outrage across the board on the left, except for very some notable exceptions there. But even Gavin Newsom tweeting a picture saying he doesn't want you to see this. He's destroying the White House. Is it because people like Hakeem Jeffries, who has been trying to make the shutdown about Republicans, when in reality they're having to own it as we all predicted they would? Gavin Newsom seems to be struggling on maybe his Proposition 50 redistricting plan. They're trying to pivot. to some other story because they've got some big things they were fighting for and are now losing the messaging on. They got to pivot to something else and this just happens to be what they think is easy but absurd.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, there's no question that the Democrats are reacting and playing defense. They don't have ideas that they're pushing. They're just a perpetual outrage machine. And people see it. I mean, you can get people outraged on a couple of issues. But if all you're doing is trying to be the party of no, and that's not good, and I'm mad... and you don't give any single idea the public notices remember most of the people in america are not nearly as political as we are and so they're just watching these negative nancies that just constantly you know uh complain about everything and they see them not giving out good ideas and and that's that's a disaster for a political party
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely, Rick. Thanks for joining us. And I think you're right. Most people, as I joked about at the beginning, are not sitting up at night, especially if they're worrying about anything going on in their country, their family or whatever. They're not concerned about the ballroom at the White House. They're not concerned with these issues. And we need to just make sure that we keep our priorities in check here, folks. Phone lines are open. Three lines, 1-800-684-3110. Of course, the work of the ACLJ continues. Like we said, we filed today in the Supreme Court. Today we have a critical deadline, a FOIA case involving FBI Director Comey placing spies in President Trump's White House. We've successfully filed briefs to get Jack Smith disqualified from his unconstitutional prosecution against President Trump. The work keeps going on. Days ago, we filed, again, the Trump v. Slaughter case. So much in that same world. And we'll continue to fight for your constitutional freedoms today. And we only can do that because of you. Go to ACLJ.org. But in the next segment, as I said, I'd like to hear from you. If you've been a hold for over half an hour, we're going to get to you first. And then give me a call. 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to Sekulow. Time to hear from the most important voice in the room. Of course, that's you. We've got two lines open. 1-800-684-3110. Let's go to William in Nevada. Watching on YouTube. Been a hold for a long time, William. And the rest of you have been a hold, too, for a while. We're going to get to you. William, go ahead. Okay, thank you, guys.
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My question is, do you think Jack Smith would be pleading the Fifth more in an open or closed forum hearing? Would either one be more advantageous over the other as far as being an open or closed hearing and him using the Fifth Amendment?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably a little easier to do it real quick on a public hearing because it's like, well, I got to pull up information. As Will said, you can kind of buy your time a little differently. How about pleading the fifth specifically? But you can manipulate the system a bit more.
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I feel like also he's very savvy. He is an attorney, a prosecutor. He knows the system. As far as the Fifth Amendment, I think a lot of it, as you said, he can rely on procedure, not being able to answer things because he's no longer in the government, secrecy around grand jury requirements because it was a prosecution. I I think he's got a leeway of not having to just take his Fifth Amendment right and not testify. I think to some degree as well. A lot of times with the hearing, if you remember back to the Lois Lerner hearing a long time ago, she was at the IRS, was in charge of the whole targeting of the Tea Party and weaponizing the government against them. They tried to get her on a technicality where they asked her to confirm in front of her which was almost saying that she was testifying and then tried to, when she took the fifth, tried to use it, tried to play a little bit of games there. However, she did end up taking the fifth, but she was using it as a blanket. I am not testifying. I think because he is willing to testify, you're less likely to see the Fifth Amendment protection him taking rather rather than just relying on procedural rules and laws surrounding secrecy and grand jury information, things of that nature would be more likely to be raised often in both a public and private setting as it relates to this, as opposed to using the Fifth Amendment. That's my personal take. We'll have to see how it shakes out.
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All right, thank you, William, for calling. Go from a William to a Bill. Okay, we've got William, Will, and Bill. A lot of people, a lot of, we've got a Liam calling coming in next. Bill, from Wyoming, you're on the air.
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Hi, just real quick before I say something. If I can't get you on the ACLJ site, I go to YouTube because that gets me to watching you quick. My question or thought is, after hearing what you've been discussing all this time about Jack Smith, I'm thinking going both ways, like Martin says, in private and then in public. In private, we can get closure and accountability. In public, I think that would probably rein him in so that he wouldn't be able to grandstand or anything like that and maybe even put a monkey wrench in his book deals. And if anything, he might even just back out of the whole deal. What do you think?
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Bill, we've heard him when he had that Andrew Weissman interview. He's not the most compelling guy as far as tone. He doesn't seem like someone that wants to grandstand. Scary looking. Yeah, I mean, the guy spent a lot of time at the Hague, so very dystopian. You can't trust a man in a beard. That's what I hear in the comments. Well, I know one I'm very close to. For those who are just listening, Will has a beard. That's not true. That's impossible. So we're going to go. It's impossible? I was a Star Wars line. That's not very manly. I was a Star Wars line. I was being Luke Skywalker. All right. That's fine. Whatever. Bill, complete me. He only has all 37 minutes.
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It was fine. Jeff, you're up. Jeff in Ohio. We got to move on from that one. Jeff, go ahead. Happy Friday.
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Thank you. Could discovery provided in the Comey indictment and possibly one against Brennan in the Eastern District of Virginia create yield material useful to the Florida grand jury investigation, which originally tied to Mar-a-Lago, but could possibly be broadening into the wider criminal conspiracy inquiry that doesn't have a statute of limitations that apply?
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Wasn't it the Donald Rumsfeld that said there are the known knowns, the known unknowns, and the unknown unknowns? I feel like that's in the unknown unknowns category.
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We're not killing time at all here, guys. Phone lines are open, 1-800-684.
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I'm talking to Jeff here, Logan. Jeff, stay on hold. I think the point here is that the James Comey Lying before Congress. I mean, none of that material, that's all related to the Russiagate. I don't think that's related to Jack Smith, things of that nature. But it rings true. Well, now you're bringing up John Brennan, the John Brennan case. Once again, that's just a criminal referral at this point. We don't know whether or not a grand jury has been impaneled or what investigative steps the Department of Justice have done there. So that's where I got back to my unknown, unknown slogan. We don't know what would come out in discovery when it comes to those cases. However, I feel like the James Comey one is removed enough because it was about leaking. That's what that indictment is about. It's actually about... lying to Congress about leaking. So I don't know how much would come out of that. But stranger things have happened, as you've said many times before, Logan.
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To quote Operation Ivy. All I know is that I don't know. All I know is that I don't know nothing. There you go. I think that's, to me, the version of what that quote is you said. Who said the quote? Donald Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld, see, I go more Tim Armstrong. That's who I would quote if I was going to quote that. Michael in Florida, you're on the air. We may have time for another call. 1-800-684-3110. Michael, go ahead. Gentlemen, when it comes to our beloved nation,
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brothers and sisters in the Democratic Party, how sadly overused is that bullseye on the wall which says, bang head here?
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i mean look i i find a lot of these political moments ridiculous not to say the republicans don't do similar things when the democrats are in office uh but the outrage of whether it's this situation of course it's going on jack smith wanting to make this more of a public um spectacle or really when you go back to that ballroom situation that is where i don't understand i understand that No, I don't. I don't understand how you have this emotional attachment to something you've never even heard of, knew it was there, ever experienced, been a part of. If they were tearing down the entire White House, sure, I'd have a concern with maybe the main house. There are certain things that have historical significance, and you want to make sure you retain that. But when you're talking about building something that's necessary, if this was done under Obama, much like the basketball court, did anyone care? No. That's what the president wants. That's what he can have. The ballroom, like I said, is not just going to service just the current president of the United States. It's going to help us all out in the future, Democrats and Republicans. And at the end of the day, we are really going to spend our time arguing about building a ballroom that is being funded, by the way, by major supporters, not by your own taxpayer dollars.
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Well, and to Michael's point as well, when you look at the cycle of the political fundraising that you're seeing, when it came to just a few weeks back when they were releasing quarterly fundraising numbers, the RNC had about $80 million cash on hand compared to the DNC's $15 million cash on hand. That's where people are responding to your messaging. $80 million compared to $15 million. That shows you what Michael's saying is that they are trying over and over again to find a foothold with their base that will get them to fund their candidacies as we go into a midterm year. And they haven't found that messaging yet. So yeah, are they going to try the ballroom now? Because they tried the shutdown. They're starting to lose the messaging on that. They thought they had it there. Not working. Next is the ballroom. Maybe they're going to try to impeach him over bettering the White House. We'll see what they come up with next. But thus far, they have not found something that is taking hold of the American people.
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In this episode of Washington Watch, host Jody Heiss dives deep into the significant political and spiritual issues shaping our world today. From the tense ceasefire in Gaza to the impact of President Trump's forthcoming trip to Asia, listen as experts and political leaders explore the strategies and repercussions of international diplomacy. This discussion also covers the ongoing U.S. government shutdown, its economic and social impacts, and what this means for everyday citizens reliant on federal support.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
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If you're seeing an increase in shutdowns right now or delays, not shutdowns, more delays, more cancellations, it is because the Democrats won't open the government back up.
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That was Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy expressing concern over the impact that this Democrat-led government shutdown is having on the nation's air traffic controllers. Welcome to this October 24th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heiss. Thank you so much for tuning in. All right, coming up, President Trump is headed to Asia. He's got some key stops in South Korea for an extremely high-stake meeting with China's Xi Jinping. Well, what will make that trip a success? Ambassador Morse Tan will join us later to break all of that down. Also, Missouri Congressman Bob Onder will give us the latest regarding the impact of the government shutdown. The shaky Gaza ceasefire is already being violated by Hamas terrorists as they tighten their grip and actually kill opponents. And Secretary of State Marco Rubio is saying that Gaza's security force must include only countries that Israel trusts, and Hamas cannot be part of Gaza's future government. And joining me now with all the latest on what's happening is Washington stand reporter Casey Harper. Casey, give us the latest, if you can, what in the world's happening there with this very shaky ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
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Yeah, Jody, thanks. It's quite the situation down there. But there's a big question in all this has been, will Israel be forced to let these adversarial countries like Turkey, for instance, have a military presence for security in Gaza? But U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, while speaking in Israel, he seemed to put those fears at ease. He says plans for a new security force in Gaza will only include countries that Israel is comfortable with, which is a big development. Navrubio said they're still working on getting those deceased hostages. And he also touched on another contentious question. Who is going to govern Gaza? Let's listen in.
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We're not going to forget about the hostage. We push every single day and we'll continue to push until the remains of every single hostage is returned. Work is going on. Even as I speak to you now, that's being pushed on. That's not something we're going to start talking about. Suffice it to say that everyone that signed on to this plan, all of these other countries agreed and everyone agreed that Hamas cannot govern and cannot be involved in governing the future of Gaza. Everyone's agreed to that.
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Well, Rubio's there in Israel on the heels of Vice President J.D. Vance's visit, who are all trying to hammer out President Trump's Gaza peace plan, Jody.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, Casey, I understand President Trump made some very interesting and many alarming comments regarding Judea and Samaria. What led to all this? What's happening in that regard?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, Jody, President Trump may have upset the apple cart with this one. He's rejecting an effort from Israeli lawmakers to, as you said, annex Judea and Samaria, which is also known as the West Bank. Trump's comments come after a preliminary vote in Israel to exercise sovereignty over that territory.
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the West Bank. Israel's not going to do anything with the West Bank, okay? Don't worry about it. Is that your question? They're not going to do anything with the West Bank. Don't worry about it. Israel's doing very well. They're not going to do anything with it.
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Now, that certainly raised eyebrows. Senior U.S. officials, including Vance and Rubio, have been in Israel this week reinforcing that same controversial message, Jody.
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Well, I can surely tell you here, Casey, we here at FRC, and I'm sure millions across the country, strongly believe that Judea and Samaria are the biblical heartland of Israel. So certainly, as you say, that raises some eyebrows. I'm sure it certainly does. If we can, let's shift gears a little bit, Casey, to the government shutdown debate. Boy, it's beginning, it looks like, to affect everyday Americans.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, that's right, Jody, and it's only going to get worse if they don't sort this out. Government shutdown, as you know, we're on day 24, the second longest in history, and if it goes any longer, travel plans could be disrupted. In fact, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said that travelers should expect more flight delays as we have about 13,000 air traffic controllers and 50,000 TSA officers who are going to be working without pay.
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If we don't have enough controllers, If we have controllers that are more stressed and less able to do the job, we pay close attention to that, and we will reduce the capacity of airplanes taking off and landing, or we will cancel flights.
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Duffy went on to say that the FAA's training academy is actually running out of funds and some students have already dropped out. Airlines, they're bracing for more delays, but the administration says they're doing all they can to help the flights be safe and keep things running on schedule. But meanwhile, as you know, paychecks for our troops, it's been a big issue. But in the very interesting story here, Jody, President Trump said yesterday there was actually a wealthy private donor who gave $130 million to help cover any gaps in U.S. military pay during the shutdown. Trump called the donor a patriot, said it was a friend of his, but would not release the person's name. And now that we have the Senate and the House in recess until Monday, President Trump heading to Asia, looks like it could be a while before we get to a deal, Jody.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. This thing keeps dragging out. Okay, you mentioned the president is headed to Asia. What are some of the key stops that he'll be making? Do we know any of the agenda items he'll be trying to bring up?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, well, President Trump is leaving Washington later tonight, actually, for a five-day trip to Asia. He's going to be focused on boosting U.S. trade and strengthening American relationships abroad. So he's visiting Malaysia, Japan, and South Korea, and this is his longest overseas trip since taking office. This is important. Trump's heading to South Korea on Wednesday to meet the president there and deliver remarks at the APEC Forum before meeting Chinese President Xi Jinping on Thursday. That important meeting comes after Beijing restricted those important rare earth exports, which led to the U.S. responding with more tariffs. Trump says he's optimistic about a deal, but he's planning on pressing the Chinese president on their role in the flow of fentanyl into the U.S., Jody.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you so much, Casey. A lot happening out there. We appreciate you keeping us up to speed with it all. All right. I want to go back now to the government shutdown and discuss the latest with a member of the House of Representatives and joining me now to discuss this. is Congressman Bob Onder. He serves on several committees, including the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, which obviously now, as you just heard, is being majorly impacted. He represents the 3rd Congressional District of Missouri. Dr. Onder, welcome to Washington Watch. It's a privilege to have you.
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Great to be with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so let's try to break some of this down. Federal workers, it looks like some of them are beginning to miss their full paycheck, their first one. And I know there was a last-minute push by Republicans to try to compensate some of these federal workers, like military members, TSA workers, air traffic controllers, and some others. But how Democrats are not giving in. They seem to have kind of a it's our way or the highway attitude. But it's really the American people looks like that are hurting. What's what's your thoughts on this right now?
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Yeah, that's exactly right. Yesterday, the U.S. Senate held a vote and Democrats blocked a Republican bill that would have made sure that our essential workers, including our military personnel, our TSA agents, our air traffic controllers and others, get paid during the shutdown. So as mentioned, we have 1,300 air traffic controllers, for example, and so far they're working. But on Tuesday, they will miss their first full paycheck. And already 19,000 flights have been delayed. 1,600 have been canceled because of air traffic controller shortages. You know, Sean Duffy yesterday said that he doesn't want his air traffic controllers to have to work second jobs driving for Uber or for DoorDash. um and uh at the same time have to do their job so um this is terrible this is the schumer shutdown uh the schumer is coddling his radical left base and the american people are paying the price
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they really are. And what you just brought up, I heard that comment yesterday from Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary as well. And that's concerning. I mean, you think about these air traffic controllers potentially taking on second jobs during all this. You're a member of the Subcommittee on Aviation. How serious do you think those concerns really are?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I'm a private pilot myself. It's very, very serious. The air traffic controllers, especially when you get into these very busy airspaces, they have to be at peak performance all the time. They have very stressful jobs. They are multitasking like no other job on this planet. And lives are at stake, the smallest of mistakes. And I've even seen very small mistakes that did not result in bad things happening but could. But when they have to pay their bills, when they have the utilities threatening to cut off power or they have to pay for school supplies for their children or food to put on the table, no. They're going to have to be doing exactly what what Secretary Duffy is talking about, which is taking second jobs like driving Ubers late at night. No, this is not this is not good. It's not safe. And the economic impact of a flight cancellations of flight delays is enormous. It is just inhuman what they're doing. And very soon, the food stamp program will run out of money. The Women, Infants and Children Nutrition Program is running out of money. This is just unconscionable. And Chuck Schumer is doing this because he wants $1.5 trillion of new spending that we don't have. He wants illegal aliens to have free health care, and he wants leftist media outlets to have half a billion dollars of our money. We are not going to fall for this extortion, but it's really a matter of time. How long will it be before Democrats put the American people first and their political interests second?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you brought it up. The Democrats here are looking for another $1.5 trillion of spending. And just this week, the government's gross national debt surpassed $38 trillion. I mean, who wants another $1.5 trillion? We're nowhere near being able to afford this. What are they thinking?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it is obscene. Right now, our most recent deficit figures are $1.8 trillion. We basically take in about $7 trillion a year. I mean, we take in about $5 trillion and we spend about $7 trillion. The Democrats want to add $1.5 trillion more to that. Well, what they're thinking is they value radical left social programs. They value giving health care to illegal aliens. They value leftist political reporting more than they value the services and the work. that our air traffic controllers, our military personnel do. It's really very sad, but Chuck Schumer, I saw him on the screen a second ago, he worries more about a primary from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez than he worries about the moms and kids who are going to go without food because of his intransigence.
SPEAKER 08 :
We've only got about 30 seconds, but you mentioned the SNAP program, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, running out here November 1st. Do you think that gets the Democrats to reopen the government real quickly?
SPEAKER 06 :
I hope so. I hope so. You know, more, you know, first of all, more government employees are Democrats than Republicans anyway. And these social welfare programs, the Democrats claim to be champions of these programs. So I hope that gets their attention. They are inflicting real pain on the American people and they've got to end their games and get the government again.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, real pain. And as you mentioned, security issues, dangerous issues with the TSA and traffic controllers. Missouri Congressman Bob Onder, thank you so much for joining us today on Washington Watch. All right, friends, coming up next, President Trump's going to Asia. Big, big high stakes meeting will be taking place. We'll cover it right after the break.
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Good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heiss. Thank you so much for joining us. All right, we've touched on it, but President Trump is departing this evening for his first visit to Asia since returning to the White House. And among his stops will be Malaysia and Japan. But without a question, the most important stop will be in South Korea at the APEC summit, where he's expected to meet with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. Now, obviously, that meeting is exceedingly a high stakes meeting, a face to face meeting. It could determine the outcome of the trade war between China and the United States. So what will it take for this Asia tour of the president to be a success? Well, joining me now to discuss this and more is Professor Morris Tan. He served as ambassador at large for global criminal justice during the first Trump administration. He is now the senior executive director of the Center for Law and Government at Liberty University. Ambassador Tan, thank you so much for joining me today on Washington Watch.
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Glad to join you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, let's go first to the president's itinerary here on this Asian trip. Where all will he be headed? And what are the stakes that you see here?
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The stakes are huge. It is thought at this point, although, you know, the president's schedule can change on the dime, given the nature of it. But he is planning, as I understand it right now, to go to Japan. and to also go to South Korea and potentially to other APEC member countries. But the stakes are very huge because the primary power trying to displace the United States right now is the Chinese Communist Party. And a key part of this battle is on the Korean Peninsula. And to give you an example of what's at stake, the shipbuilding industry is controlled 83 percent by China and South Korea. And if there is not reliable shipbuilding that can happen in partnership with South Korea, then the US, which is already behind China in naval vessels, will potentially fall behind further. And even of even greater risk is the Chinese espionage that could potentially take U.S. trade and military secrets and appropriate them for China, which is why a key point in all this is that South Korea should invest in U.S. shipbuilding. I think it would be best through Hanwha, which purchased the Philly shipyard in the United States where there would be the legal safeguards and other safeguards to protect U.S. secrets from being stolen in the process of trying to make American shipbuilding great again. And so it would be very important to do that in the United States rather than in South Korea, where there are grave vulnerabilities to theft by the CCP.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, you brought up a lot of different issues there, and all of these are major issues. I mean, obviously, I think the climax of this trip is going to be the conversation between Trump and Chinese leader Xi. But I... There's a lot on the table, like you brought up there. And then there's Taiwan. You have another possible peace talks in Malaysia. You've got issues there in South Korea with the change of government that at least seems to be kind of leaning in the direction of China right now. What do you expect to be on the table for their conversation?
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Boy, you're right about all of these things. These are all serious issues. The Indo-Pac commander for the United States is saying that the Chinese military is no longer engaging in military exercises relating to Taiwan. but rehearsals to take over Taiwan. And South Korea is a huge vulnerability because the current regime, which is very deceptive and cunning, would not come to the aid of the U.S. protecting Taiwan. which is of huge concern, is also tilted towards North Korea, which has had its longstanding objective of taking over the whole peninsula. And so all of these things are major issues So if the current administration in South Korea decides to give 100 billion to buy offshore wind power equipment and solar equipment to China, and 100 billion to fund leftist infrastructure and NGOs inside of South Korea, and 50 billion in reserves, You know, rather than investing it in the United States, that would be a major issue. And they have the money to invest in the United States. And over three years, that would be those three sources alone would be $750 billion. All right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Our time is running out. Just a couple of minutes here real quickly. Do you think there's any possibility that the president would meet with North Korea's Kim Jong-un?
SPEAKER 01 :
I know there is speculation along these lines that is going around. I've read them, too. It's not outside the realm of possibility. For example, during the first administration, Trump decided to step across the line separating the two Koreas. And so it is possible— I remember that. can do something along these lines whether he will or not it's ultimately his choice but is it a possibility yes it's a possibility all right less than a minute left what what does a success look like on this trip boy um There's so many different fronts right now, but strengthening deterrence in regards to Taiwan and South Korea would be important. I think... Moving forward very aggressively against the current leftist administration in South Korea and the CCP, I think is very important. These are not trustworthy partners. And so while I think President Trump is trying to patiently and magnanimously give them more of a chance, the sooner he realizes that they are playing him, that they are seeking to deceive him, the better. And I think Trump would be able to take some strong, decisive actions to counter. Thank you.
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Thank you, Ambassador Morris Tan, Senior Executive Director at Liberty University Center for Law and Government. Incredible meeting coming up in Asia. All right, next, America and Israel. There's a lot happening on that front, friends, and we'll bring you the latest right after this. Stay tuned.
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For over 4,000 years, the Jewish people have had legal, historical, and biblical ties to the land of Israel, especially the heartland of Israel, Judea and Samaria, which much of the world still calls the West Bank. To Israelis, Judea and Samaria is far more than a name. It's the center of their ancestral homeland where nearly 80% of the Bible's events took place. Abraham purchased property in Hebron, Jacob in Shechem, Joshua made an altar on Mount Ebal and led the Israelites into a covenant before God. On Mount Gerizim, overlooking Shechem, Jesus talked to the Samaritan woman at the well about worshiping neither on Mount Gerizim nor in Jerusalem, but in spirit and in truth. Judea and Samaria is nearly a quarter of Israel's current land mass, not a small strip of land on the Jordan River, but a vital and strategic part of the nation's identity. The October 7th massacre, launched from Gaza, shattered the illusion that giving away territory brings peace. Gaza, which was once seen as the cornerstone of a two-state solution, became a launchpad for terror. Today, only 21 percent of Israelis support a Palestinian state. Trust in a two-state solution has all but collapsed. The Middle East is changing. Iran's grip is weakening. New alliances are forming. But Western countries and some U.S. officials still chase the mirage of a two-state solution. History speaks clearly. The 2005 Gaza withdrawal, backed by the U.S., led not to peace but to a terrorist regime. Judea and Samaria are 24 times larger than Gaza, deeply woven into Israel's geographic and spiritual fabric. To surrender them would not bring peace. It would invite conflict and existential danger. Family Research Council stands with Israel's rightful claim to sovereignty. It's time for America to do the same for history, for justice, and for lasting security in the Middle East.
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You're tuned in to Washington Watch. Welcome back. Thank you so much for joining us. I am your Friday host, Jody Heiss. All right. While definitely we support the Trump administration and we pray for them on a regular basis, there are times that also we need to call them out when there's something that they're not getting right. For example, we've done that with the abortion drug. That drug is threatening women and the unborn because of the Biden and Obama era abortion expansions that the Trump administration could reverse, but they haven't done so yet. Well, we're now sounding the alarm on the administration's push against Israel's right to fully exercise sovereignty over the land that was promised to them by God, namely the region of Judea and Samaria, which some refer to as the West Bank. We have a clip of President Trump's comments.
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The West Bank. Israel's not going to do anything with the West Bank, okay? Don't worry about it. Is that your question? They're not going to do anything with the West Bank. Don't worry about it. Israel's doing very well. They're not going to do anything with it.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, those were some powerful words from President Trump yesterday. He was responding to a reporter's question about Wednesday's preliminary vote in the Israeli Knesset to extend sovereignty to the settlement areas in Judea and Samaria. But will Israel yield to the U.S. when it should be yielding to God? I mean, that's a huge question. And what danger does that put the U.S. in as well as Israel? Joining me to discuss this is Aaron Freese, board member, president, and CEO of Israel Team Advocates International. He served for 24 years as the lead pastor of the Noel Wood Church in Mobile, Alabama. Aaron, welcome to Washington Watch. Thank you for joining us.
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Thank you, Judy. Good to be here.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, so President Trump had a telephone interview with Time magazine that adds more details to the clip that we just played a little a moment ago. And I want to read what he said when asked about Israel moving forward with the annexation of Judea and Samaria. Here's what the president said. It won't happen. It won't happen. It won't happen because I gave my word to the Arab countries. And you can't do that now. We've had great Arab support. It won't happen because I gave my word to the Arab countries. It will not happen. Israel would lose all of its support from the United States if that happened." Wow. So if the U.S. does not give Israel support, I mean, that's bad for Israel, but that is also bad for the United States, isn't it?
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Yes. And, you know, as a Christian Zionist, my basis of my belief comes from Genesis 12, verse 3, where God promises Abraham a land, a peoplehood, a nation. And then he said, I will bless you and I'll bless the families of the earth through you. And then God says to Abraham something very interesting. Whoever curses you, I will curse. And whoever blesses you, I will bless. So there's rich blessing on a nation that will support the Jewish people, that will fight against this present global rise of anti-Semitism and stands with the Zionist state of Israel. And interesting word there in Genesis 12, 3, God uses two words for curse. The first is kalel. It means to show contempt, to despise, revile, or humiliate. And the second word is arar, which means to cause to become fruitless and powerless. And if you look back in history, Jody, every nation... You think of the Romans. I mean, where's the Roman Empire today? They showed contempt, vile contempt towards the Jewish people, towards Israel, Germany, the United Kingdom, Spain. Every country that has dissed Israel, they have become fruitless and powerless. And any country that has colleled or shown contempt towards the state of Israel ends up in the dustbin of history. So I pray that, you know, the United States of America continues on its path of standing strong. I know there's many voices around President Trump. that are isolationist. They're not happy about his support of Israel. A lot of times he stands alone against the powers that be within his own party. And so I pray for him that he'll stand strong for the Jewish state.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we join you with that. And Aaron, I've got some more questions I want to get to you. We've got less than two minutes. If you can stay over the break, I'd like to get a few more questions in to you. You know, peace is what we all want. Okay, we want Israel peace in Jerusalem and globally for that matter. But looking back at the Bible, as you referenced, what sort of peace could there, would there be if Israel gives away Judea and Samaria? I mean, this is like giving up on the land that God gave them. What... Could there be any peace if they did that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you know, my opinion, Jody, there'll never be peace with a fanatical ideology of Islamism. And Islamism has one... desire, and that's first to destroy the Jewish state. If you look at the Covenant of Hamas, they not only want to kill every Jew in Israel, they want to kill every Jew globally. And once that happens, then the Western world is next. And already England, Great Britain has fallen to radical Islam. And now it is penetrating into the United States. And so we have to stand strong for Israel because we're fighting an age-long fanatical ideology. And there'll never be peace if we give up on the state of Israel, for sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I want to go down that path further when we get back. I mean, we're talking about Muslim countries who do not want Israel to exist. So let's continue this conversation after the break. Thank you, Aaron Free, board member, president and CEO of Israel Team Advocates International. We'll continue that conversation right after this break. So stay with us.
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Welcome back to Watch and Watch. Thank you so much for joining us today. I am your Friday host, Jody Heiss, and we have with us Aaron Free, who's a board member and president and CEO of Israel Team Advocates International. Before I get back to him, he was mentioning some scriptures, and we've been talking about a lot of scriptures, and that just reminded me, here at FRC, we have Stand on the Word, which is just going viral. It's going like wildfire all across the country, and we'd love for you to join us beginning November 1st, We're going to start a brand new 14-day series going through Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Philemon. And you can get a study guide, Paul's Prison Letters, and we encourage you to come join us. It's going to be a powerful, powerful time through the Word right there. Simply text LETTERS—that would refer to Paul's letters—text LETTERS to 67742. All right, let me go back now to Aaron. Aaron, first of all, thank you for staying with us over the break. I appreciate that very much. But there's a reason we were talking about this, why Arab and Muslim countries do not want Israel to have any degree of authority in Judea and Samaria. The truth is they don't want Israel anywhere in the land. I mean, they would prefer Israel to be gone, totally out of the Middle East picture as a whole. So if there is any nation that should be standing with Israel right now, it would be us, wouldn't it?
SPEAKER 10 :
100%. And again, Jodi, what the Western world needs to be concerned about, if you, you know, during the war, I have a friend who's an expert on Hamas, and there were posters all through the Gaza Strip. And the poster said, first the Saturday people, then the Sunday people. So the objective of Hamas is first the Jews, and then the Christians. And that is the ideology of their path. And one of the most frightening verses in the Bible for any Christian, and right now we're seeing this huge rise of Christian anti-Semitism on the, not only the Christian left, but now on the Christian right. It's very concerning. But, you know, for every Christian, should read the passage in Matthew 25. It's, to me, one of the most harrowing passages in the Bible. And it's where Jesus says in the Olivet Discourse, when the Son of Man comes, he's gonna gather all the nations as a shepherd gathers the sheep and separates the sheep from the goats. And then Jesus goes into his teaching where he says, I was hungry, you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. I was naked and you clothed me. And then he says, as you've done it unto the least of these, my brethren, you've done it unto me. Who's he talking about? He's talking about his brothers, his Jewish family. As you've done it unto them, you've done it unto me. And so the righteous will say, when did we see you hungry and naked and thirsting? As you've done in the least of these, my brethren, you've done it to me. And then the unrighteous nations, he'll send into everlasting darkness. And so, Jody, in my estimation, there are sheep nations, there are goat nations, there are sheep churches, there are goat churches. We're seeing this huge divide today, even within the evangelical movement of churches that have gone back to replacement theology, supersessionism, proclaiming that God has finished with Israel and finished with the Jewish people. And 70% now of young evangelical Christians in America are rejecting Israel, 70%. And Jesus, in Matthew 25, he's not just... giving a new sermon. He's quoting Joel chapter 3 in Matthew 25 about separating the nations based on how they treat Israel. And Joel chapter 3, verse 1 through 3, "...for behold, in those days, and at that time when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat." and I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of my people and my heritage Israel, because they have scattered them among the nations and have divided my land and have cast lots for my people. So, you know, nations that divide the land of Israel, that, you know, want to hold Israel back from... annexing their own land. You can't annex what rightfully belongs to you. It's Israel's land. So nations that do this to Israel and stand opposed to Israel and attempt to divide their land, they will enter into judgment with the Lord at the end of the age. So as a Christian, I don't want to be on the wrong side of history, Jody. I know listeners don't either, you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Powerful, powerful comment. And this is an everlasting covenant that God made with them, and it did not go away with the opening of the New Testament. Thank you so much, Aaron Free, board member, president, and CEO of Israel Team Advocates International. Great discussion. We appreciate you coming on. All right. Okay, friends, I want to bring on David Claussen now for our worldview segment. But one thing I want to talk to him about, over the past month, we've mentioned on this program how we're hearing about an increase in church attendance ever since really the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And I don't know, we may not have exact figures to go along with those reports, but we do have some solid figures to go along when it comes to Bible sales. According to a Wall Street Journal report that came out this week on the data of book sales, 2.4 million copies of the Bible were sold in the U.S. in September. That's up from 1.5 million in August, and it's a 36% jump from last September. So with more Americans obviously feeling a spiritual hunger inside of them right now, what does the church need to do And are they up to the challenge? Well, joining me now for this discussion and more, our weekly Biblical Worldview segment expert, David Claussen. He's the director of the Center for Biblical Worldview here at the Family Research Council and author of Life After Roe, Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today. David, as always, thank you for joining me. Happy Friday to you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Happy Friday. Great to be with you as well, Jody.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, so what the enemy meant for evil, God meant for good. I mean, that comes to my mind when we see what happened following the death of Charlie Kirk. And, I mean, is this the start of something? Increase in church attendance, increase in Bible sales. What do you make of all of this news right now?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Jody, I'm incredibly encouraged. And actually in two weeks, I'm going to speak in Arkansas at a large gathering of Gen Z Christians. And so I've been kind of, as I'm preparing for those comments, kind of looking into some of this. And the number you just referred to, the fact that 2.4 million Bibles were sold in September, that is incredible. Like you said, 36% higher than uh than the previous september the barner group tells us the church attendance is getting back to pre-pandemic levels fueled by gen z particularly young men you also look and i think like you you mentioned charlie kirk's assassination seems to have supercharged this but even predating uh that that fateful day in september we were seeing uh the downloading of religion and spirituality apps up over 50% over the last couple of years. The streaming of Christian music is up 79% over the last five years. And so there are signs, indicators, that there is something happening right now. They call it revival. Maybe we're at the beginning of a revival. But there are indicators that as people are, they're hungry for truth. They are hungry for something transcendental that goes beyond just what they've been getting in the culture. And so for those of us with preaching, teaching, discipleship opportunities, this is an incredible time to be in Christian ministry.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, David, I recall, in fact, I came to Christ out of the Jesus movement in the early 70s, and that all started on the West Coast. And while we were at the Pray, Vote, Stand Summit, I actually took a little bit of time and went out to Pirate's Cove, where they baptized thousands and thousands that were there. And I'll tell you, it was a very moving experience to be a part of it, just to witness that, because knowing, because my spiritual roots really came out of what happened there. Christian high school, and they were about to have another baptism right there, and the instructors were teaching them in the Word, and it reminded me and brings up really my next question. I mean, the developments we're seeing and that you're talking about are very encouraging. Certainly, they're a starting point for many new believers who But the church also has a duty at this point to take these people in and to be a guide for them, to feed them spiritually. Is the church right now equipped to do that? How are they doing with this task so far, do you think?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and Jody, you know, the week of the Pray, Vote, Stand Summit just last Monday is when we released here at the Center for Biblical Worldview our major report. You know, over the last couple of weeks, you and I have teased aspects of that to our Washington Watch audience. But what's really interesting, because that survey specifically looks at regular churchgoers, and it kind of gives us the pulse on really what I think you could call America's most devout church. And it shows, while there are certainly some encouraging aspects of the report, there are areas of clear deficiency and clear weakness on what regular churchgoers believe about basic theological issues. And of course, I'm never someone who wants to beat up on pastors or those who have given their lives to teaching God's Word. But some of these data shows that there are weak spots in some of the basic core doctrinal issues that And so I think this moment is important for a couple of reasons, Jody. But as people are coming back to church or coming to church for the first time, it's an outstanding question in my mind. What kind of teaching will they be getting? What will they be discipled into? What will they be catechized on? And my hope is it will be orthodox biblical doctrine that comes straight from God's Word. But I think the jury's out. And so I think this is an opportunity for those of us in ministry to rise to kind of our cultural moment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, let's talk about some of the encouraging things that are there. I think that's a reality check for us to begin with, that there are some weak areas that we need to focus on. But there were some encouraging things. I know we haven't been able to talk about this, but how these churchgoers view Israel, where are we on that? Is that, maybe I should ask, is that a point of encouragement or concern?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it was, Jody. 84% of these churchgoers told us that they believed that prayer support for Israel was either very important or somewhat important. It was, again, over 80% that believed the U.S. government should support Israel. It was a high percentage that also said they believed they should personally support financially Israel. So large, overwhelming majorities of regular churchgoers still, when they hear about Israel, they think about Israel, which has, of course, been in the news a lot. the last couple of weeks, believe that there is an obligation on churchgoers, in particular, to provide prayer support for Israel. I found that abundantly encouraging, especially as kind of the most recent events have unfolded these last few weeks.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I share that encouragement with you. What about issues like family, related to family? I know it's been 10 years or so now since the Supreme Court's decision in Obergefell that brought us same-sex marriage. Where do churchgoers stand on the Bible's teaching on marriage?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I was actually encouraged because, again, like you said, it's been 10 years since the Obergefell decision was imposed on all 50 states by the U.S. Supreme Court. And so, again, the idea, you know, when is the last time you heard someone talk about marriage or, you know, publicly opposed same-sex marriage? You know, this is not even seen as a valid public policy debate anymore. What I found really encouraging was almost 70% of regular churchgoers, when we asked them the question, do you believe that marriage is the relationship between one man and one woman for life, it was 68% who affirmed that position. And again, given the assault that marriage has had over the last decade or so, and even before the Obergefell decision, tells me that at least a majority of churchgoers are being discipled and catechized well I will say, though, Jody, even though marriage polled pretty well, the definition of family was a little bit lower. It was only 46% of churchgoers who said when they defined family, they thought that a family consists of a married mom and dad and the children that come from that union. So, again, it shows that we live in a—
SPEAKER 08 :
46? Did you say it's 46%?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, 46% defined family kind of according to the Bible. Another 20% just said, well, family is really any group of people who care for one another. 22% said, well, the definition of family changes over time and across culture. And so again, although marriage pulled well, Jody, when it comes to the definition of the family, it showed there's still some confusion. So again, it speaks to the fact we live in a world In America, where 84% of our friends and neighbors are basically syncretistic in their thinking, so they might have some right, accurate beliefs, but mixed in there is some confusion and misunderstandings. So again, although there's some bright spots, there's work we need to do on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
What about on the issue of life? I mean, that's an area you've just got a brand new book on. Where do these people stand on abortion and life?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and again, I'll just remind us, these are regular churchgoers. And when it came to abortion, this was actually more of the kind of discouraging part of it, whether it was those who identify as pro-life. That number two years ago when we did this survey was 63%. Now it's at 43%. And kind of corresponding to that, those who identify in our churches as pro-choice went from 22% two years ago to 35%. And there was also just confusion on what the Bible teaches on the question of life. Only half of regular churchgoers told us they believe the Bible identifies a point when life begins.
SPEAKER 08 :
David, what you're saying right now, we've only got a minute or so, but this says to me we have some major theological issues that have to be addressed in the church too. We're missing something here. If we have those shifting numbers, agree or disagree?
SPEAKER 07 :
Agree entirely, Jody. yeah well again give me like for instance we got about 30 seconds yeah i agree entirely with you again again i'm never someone who wants to beat up on pastors or ministry leaders those who have given their life to christian ministry what i will say though is this survey can be used i hope as a tool because it does highlight areas of weakness and deficiency on theological issues political issues cultural issues And it shows, again, we can't let the culture disciple or catechize our people. It needs to be taking place from the Word of God. And so there are bright spots. I don't want to be just the bare bad news, but there's some areas that show we need to step up in our teaching, catechizing, and discipling.
SPEAKER 08 :
David Claussen, as always, thank you so much. And look, I'm all for pastors too. I am one. I have been for 30 years. I just want to encourage them, call them forth to take God's word, to dig into it without fear of man, that we serve God, not man. David Claussen, thank you for joining us, Center for Biblical Worldview here at FRC. Have a great evening. We'll see you next week.
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