SPEAKER 07 : 0:03

This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now. Here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. All right, it is that time. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all listening. Live program today on January the 17th. Big winter storm coming in. We'll talk about some of that as well, but I got a special guest joining me today, Bill Anderson joining me. Bill, welcome. How are you? Good. How are you doing? I'm doing very well. Appreciate you joining us. And for those of you listening, you've probably heard Bill in the past on some of my other programs and things that we have done. But Bill's a U.S. Army veteran, senior pastor of a church here locally, master electrician, master mechanical HVAC tech. What else should I go on? You're a mega black belt as well. Where should I stop, Bill?

SPEAKER 10 : 0:59

That's Krav Maga. Omega, you might get me in trouble there, John.

SPEAKER 07 : 1:05

Level four defense strategy instructor. You're also a bleed instructor with the American Heart Association, and you've just recently also become a Colorado Certified Firearms Instructor. Is that correct also?

SPEAKER 10 : 1:19

Yeah, the new law coming into effect in July. That they passed, you know, all instructors have to be certified and vetted by the state. We have to teach their curriculum, making sure all the new laws and stuff are taught in our classes, mandatory classroom and range time. With tests, eight hours, and then also, too, after July, if your permit expires, you can't just auto-renew anymore. You have to go take a renewal class, and so I'm certified to teach both of those.

SPEAKER 07 : 1:49

Okay, perfect. And in the coming weeks, guys, we'll get into more of that and Bill's... How should I say this, Bill? You're going to do, already have done, and I should highlight that, but you've got some seminars coming up that we'll talk about. You've also got a website, YouTube channel, all those different things. We're going to be discussing more and more of those in the weeks ahead. Bill's going to be more involved in what we're doing here on a routine basis. And Bill, I appreciate that very much. Before we continue, though, talk about the seminar you've got coming up.

SPEAKER 10 : 2:22

Yeah, so on the 25th, we have an AHA, which is American Heart Association, BLF, which stands for basic life support. And it's for the health care provider. So if you work in health care, you are mandatory to take these classes. And so we are certified to teach them. We have that coming up. And then we combine that with a stop the bleed trauma. So we talk about chest seals, you know, tourniquets and all those things. And we actually have hands on practical training with all of this. You know, John, and we talk about, you know, I teach firearms. I teach self-defense. You know, and everybody wants to learn the cool stuff. They want to learn how to defend against a gun, a knife, a stick. But, you know, we train on probabilities, and you're probably more likely to encounter a first aid or even maybe even a cardiac arrest. According to the AHA, every 90 seconds somebody has a cardiac arrest. These are probably more essential skills. You're probably going to encounter needing to use those before you need to defend against a knife or a stick. Statistically speaking, it's probably not going to happen. You're probably not going to get attacked with a gun or a knife. You're more likely to get sucker punched or robbed or mugged or something like that. But, um, healthcare is very important, right? We got to take care of ourselves and healthcare.

SPEAKER 07 : 3:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER 10 : 3:37

We have to be our own first responder.

SPEAKER 07 : 3:40

That's where I do a thing. And, and, you know, I haven't talked much about this and maybe we'll get this into getting into this in some future shows as well. But the, the, um, carjacking end of things, Bill, continues to be on the rise. I watched a video last night, not here locally, thankfully, but, you know, it's becoming a bigger deal across the country, and that's something else that we may want to get into here at some point, to your point, when it comes to self-defense.

SPEAKER 10 : 4:05

Yeah, actually, in February, out at the church, we do all of our training out at the church, by the way, we're doing a home invasion carjacking seminar. And so that's a class all on that. So it's a full day class and we're going to, we're going to do some mock-up stuff, you know, mock-up home scenarios. And that's what the last level four of integrated offense strategy, it's fighting grappling with concealed carry. But that was the last course that I took was family protection and, you know, vehicle defense, armed vehicle defense, which is quite eyeopening. You know, you, you got to train this stuff. You can't just watch a video and, And then you suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect, which you have a little bit of knowledge and you think you're an expert, you know, and you're in trouble.

SPEAKER 07 : 4:48

Exactly. And, you know, one of the things, too, and I had it in my notes today, we'll go over some of this as well. But, you know, practice, practice, practice, you know, all the things that I've talked about on this show now for several years. And, Bill, you've listened to some of the programs. Reality is we can do all of the, quote, unquote, preparedness stuff. stuff we want, but unless you're able to put it into practice and understand what you're doing, and on that given day where something might actually come up, can you actually deliver?

SPEAKER 10 : 5:16

Absolutely, and that's what we preach over and over. All these things are perishable skills. And by the way, John, going down to a range and shooting a piece of paper, it's not realistic. I'm sorry, but it does a little bit of good, but it doesn't picture, a realistic picture.

SPEAKER 07 : 5:37

Bill, I've experienced that in my lifetime. I know it's not the exact comparison, although I think there is some correlations to your point. You're getting your big game rifle all dialed in or your bow or your musket or whatever it happens to be and you're shooting that paper target and that's all great and maybe you can hit all of that just fine. But then you're out actually in the field and you're hunting and there's this thing that some experience and some don't called buck fever, whereby things start to happen. Your heartbeat goes way up. And frankly, Bill, some do really well at handling that and they have no issues and they can still shoot, you know, wild game with no problem. And there's others that buck fever takes over and they can't hit the broad side of a barn when that happens.

SPEAKER 10 : 6:22

Yeah, it happens super fast. And what happens is, you know, you get tunnel vision. And, oh, there's so much to this topic. I mean, this is all what we teach in our self-defense stuff. You know, a lot of people think that the gun's the answer. I tell you what, if you're probably 20 feet or closer to me, and statistically speaking, most firearm engagements are 0-6 feet. So, you know, you pull a gun 0-6 feet from me, and, yes, I will say this confidently again, I will take that gun from you. You're not that good. I'm going to take it from you. I'm highly trained in that. I teach people this. And it's not the answer. In fact, if you don't have the right training, you actually become a liability instead of an asset.

SPEAKER 07 : 7:08

Well, and one of the things that I've, you know, we've talked about this on this program, and I've had some of this instruction in the past as well. Unless you're ready to pull the trigger and you really know what you've gotten yourself into, don't pull the gun in the first place, Bill.

SPEAKER 10 : 7:23

Yeah, yeah, because, you know, there's the mindset of the person you pull a gun on is two things, right? Either you're going to use that on me, so I'm going to take it from you so you can't use it on me, or I'm going to take it and use it on you.

SPEAKER 09 : 7:34

Right.

SPEAKER 10 : 7:35

And you can't predict where they're going with that. But when that weapon comes into play, and by the way, 60%, two or more weapons, right? So I just don't have a gun. Probably have a knife on me, too. And multiple attackers, right? Right. So this is all FBI statistics that we train on outside of gang and drug-related incidents. This is real-life stuff that we train on. And the statistics show that, yeah, we're not training the correct way.

SPEAKER 07 : 8:03

Awesome. Okay. And, again, as you guys are all listening, we will get into some of these things down the road with Bill. Trust me, there's so many things to cover. And, Bill, so many things I've already covered in the past couple of years. That's why we keep doing this week after week after week. All right. Given the fact we've got a big storm coming in this weekend, and if you guys are listening to a replay of this program, you may or may not – may or may not affect you directly, although this stuff I think affects everybody at some point in time as well, Bill. But given the fact that you've got a background in the HVAC end of things and the electrical end of things, give some folks some tips as we head into what I would consider to be, honestly, A fairly normal Colorado weekend this time of the year. I know others in the news organization might argue with me on that, but I've grown up here. I'm a native. We get these cold spells from time to time. Some are more prepared than others, but those that are listening, what are some things folks should be doing at home? And I can talk about the car stuff a little later, and I'll even do that tomorrow on Saturday. But home-wise, what are some things folks should be looking at doing?

SPEAKER 10 : 9:07

Well, the most important thing, especially with HVAC, is you've got to be doing that maintenance. I mean, you know, the storm's supposed to hit tonight. I mean, I can tell you a couple of things to do, but, you know, if you're not ready, you're not ready. Right. And you've just got to hunker down and hope for the best. But get that filter changed. Get that flame sensor cleaned off. Maintenance. I've seen furnaces and boilers, you know, that should have died many years ago. but they're still running strong because the owner is faithful on doing those preventative maintenances. And they don't have to be crazy, right? But constantly change. A furnace has to breathe, right? And if you don't have that filter clear, it can't breathe. And then the flame sensor and, you know, it'd be great if you're familiar with that kind of stuff to have a couple, you know, igniters on hand and some flame sensors, things like flame sensors you can clean. But having a stock of filters, I buy... filters by the case and i have a case of them by my furnace and i change that filter every single month i get the cheapest one and i change it because it's not there for air quality see a lot of people think that my furnace filter is there for air quality no no it's there to protect the equipment right you know right so i i change that especially if you're looking to do air quality stuff that's a whole different part of the system and things that you know you and that world can do and it's not just the filter to your point That's right. That's right. I mean, electrically speaking, you know, it's just hit or miss with that. That doesn't have too much an effect with cold. You know, but I'm not a plumber, but hey, go outside and make sure those hoses are disconnected.

SPEAKER 07 : 10:45

You know, to your point, I mean, we're not plumbers, but Bill, you and I have enough common sense and have been around this stuff and around Colorado enough that for those of you listening, yeah, make sure the outside hoses are unhooked. If you've got any kind of plumbing that's on an outside wall, typically there'll be a sink or something. It could be a bathroom, could be kitchen sink. Open up your doors. I mean, at night it'll get much colder. The temperatures drop then. Usually our temperatures in the home come down a little, and that's one of those where, Bill, you know, if you're worried about some of those, you know, faucets that are on the, you know, plumbing that's on the outside wall, keep the temperature up slightly. Open all your cabinet doors up. If need be, let the water, you know, trickle out ever so slightly so it keeps moving because moving water has a harder time, you know, freezing. And just a few little things along those lines, Bill, you can do.

SPEAKER 10 : 11:30

Absolutely, absolutely. I will talk about this on the electrical, though, because this is something I run into every single winter, and it's a hot button for me, but it's power strips and space heaters. So people go and buy power strips, and they're like, hey, I just turned this one outlet into like 10 more outlets, and I'm going to plug in four or five little space heaters on them, and Gee, why does my breaker keep dripping? Why is, you know, things melting? And it's like, you know, you got to be careful with that because space heaters consume a lot. They consume a lot. So, you know, avoid power strips. And I mean, I use them too, but don't overload them.

SPEAKER 07 : 12:08

Well, you know, I do as well. Although, to your point, you know, I use them in select areas where you know what you're plugging in and the load of. And in a lot of cases for me, you're doing it more of a convenience factor because maybe the plug isn't in quite the right spot. So you run a power strip where you can plug in anything. a little easier. But yeah, that doesn't mean, you know, you see those pictures from Christmas vacation where Clark's got all the lights plugged in out in the garage. That's not what we're talking about.

SPEAKER 10 : 12:35

Yeah. Yeah. You think that's comedy? No, that's, I see that.

SPEAKER 07 : 12:38

No, I have to, I've seen that in reality. It's like, Oh my word. I just kind of look at that and think, Oh man, that is just an accident. That's a fire waiting to happen. Literally.

SPEAKER 10 : 12:48

Yeah, if you're going to do that, at least get a power strip with a little breaker in there. They've got the little buttons that pop out. You know, at least give you some kind of protection.

SPEAKER 07 : 12:57

Anything would be better than nothing. And it's also, Bill, where just – I've never talked about this on this program. It's more of my Saturday morning, you know, Fix It Radio interview. And of things, but I'm also not a huge fan of the multiple outlets on a single outlet. You know, they make those where you can plug a plug on top and even even screw it into the the screw, if you would. And it becomes more of a permanent fixture where you can take, you know, two outlets and turn it into six or eight. And I've just never been a big fan of those.

SPEAKER 10 : 13:26

Yeah, in fact, just two days ago, I got called to a house that was throwing the main breaker, and he's like, I unplugged everything, so I don't know what's going on here, and he had that in there, pulled it out, the breaker held, I put my meter on the two prongs of that device and direct short, so inside that was melted to your point. Those things are definitely, don't do those. At least get a power strip with a built-in little circuit breaker in it. At least do that, please.

SPEAKER 07 : 13:53

Yeah, and again, folks, we're just trying to give you some common sense things. And again, Bill, stuff happens, and I don't want to say that common sense goes out the window when these sorts of things happen, but it does because go to any grocery store right now and either wait in line and or see what's not on the shelf because of what's coming this weekend. So the reality is, yeah, there's not a lot of common sense left, I hate to say.

SPEAKER 10 : 14:17

Yeah, and that's the heart of everything that we're going to be talking about in the future and today. And the heart of my other company that we're starting here is you've got to be prepped to protect yourself against whatever it may be. In this case, a winter storm. I should... should already be ready for this. And John, this isn't something that we think of when the news says, hey, snow, listen, this needs to be your lifestyle. Correct. This needs to be your lifestyle.

SPEAKER 07 : 14:47

Correct. Yeah, we live in Colorado. We get snow. We get drastic temperature swings in this state. Again, I've lived here my entire life, and these are just the things that happen. We get floods. We get bad snowstorms. We can have tornadoes, high wind. Power can go out, Bill. There's all sorts of things that happen to us here in Colorado. And I will, you know, not bragging, but I will just tell you that, you know, first things first, we haven't been to the grocery store or done anything different this week than we would any other week because we're already ready.

SPEAKER 10 : 15:18

Yep, yep. Your pantry, your whatever you want to call it, that is your grocery store. So you shop out of that, and then when you go to the store, you restock that. Obviously, there's perishable items you can't do that with.

SPEAKER 09 : 15:31

Of course.

SPEAKER 10 : 15:31

But we're not talking about that. But, hey, and, you know, I'm from Colorado, too. And there was a time, and we lived in Aurora when I was a kid, and we had an earthquake. And it, like, shook us out of bed. I mean, it was a big earthquake in Colorado. So, you know. Stuff happens. Stuff happens, right?

SPEAKER 07 : 15:49

That's right.

SPEAKER 10 : 15:49

Stuff happens. I don't remember what year that was. I think that was around 82.

SPEAKER 07 : 15:52

Yeah, I think now that you say that, I think that's about right, Bill. I remember that. It didn't affect us on the west side quite as much as it did out there. But, no, you're correct. I remember that now. Absolutely. That was the same year we had that big blizzard on Thanksgiving. Yep, absolutely. All right, folks, hang tight. We'll come back. We've got a lot of stuff to cover. We're not going to get to everything, but we'll get to as much as we can. We'll keep having Bill back in the future. So hang tight. Again, Ready Radio. You can go to our website, ready-radio.com. We'll be right back. This is KLZ 560.

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SPEAKER 07 : 20:44

All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Again, our website, ready-radio.com, and that's a great resource for you. In fact, we'll be linking things from there to what Bill and I are working on as well, and a lot of the things, Bill, that you've got from your seminars, too. We're going to have additional websites and things like that as we move forward. We'll get all those things linked up as well for all of you listening. So... uh in turn bill let's and you've got like 13 things you're working on a book with different chapters and so on and what i thought we could do is over the course of the next you know several shows let's just run through some of these things and again you're going to have more information on this when it comes to you know website books and so on but as we're talking through some of these things i thought we would just start with number one and start rolling through some of these things what are your thoughts

SPEAKER 10 : 21:33

Sure, that sounds fine.

SPEAKER 07 : 21:34

Okay, let's do it. Number one, understanding batteries and battery chargers or chargers in general.

SPEAKER 10 : 21:41

Oh, that's a great one because this is very relevant to me, actually. And speaking of batteries, you know, cold weather is just... you know, really hard on batteries.

SPEAKER 07 : 21:52

Absolutely. And to your point, Bill, it doesn't matter whether it's, you know, a battery that you're, you know, portable, carrying around flashlight, whatever, and it's out in the cold or your car battery, all of it is affected by extreme temperatures, cold included.

SPEAKER 10 : 22:07

Yeah. And even the lithiums, you know, they've got protections in there because once they get a certain temperature charging them, you know, just doesn't work and actually they need to protect it. So a lot of them have thermal protection in there that you can't charge. below a certain temperature. But this is pretty relevant because a lot of times people don't understand batteries. And especially like solar chargers. You know, I hear a lot of talk about, oh, I got this solar charger for my phone. And what they don't realize is like that charger, you got to understand amp hours, most important. But that charger that you have and You know, I've got a couple in my dashboard of my truck and it'll take a week to charge.

SPEAKER 07 : 22:48

Absolutely. You know, I tried. I bought one of those just for grins, Bill, to your point, just to kind of test out, see how well it works and so on. And yeah, in a pinch, could you get by with that? My suggestion would be make sure you keep it always topped off, because to your point, Bill, once it starts to diminish. Yeah, you can put that thing out in the sun and it'll charge. But man alive, you know, don't hold your breath.

SPEAKER 10 : 23:11

Right. And that and then you got cloudy days and then you don't have full sun. I mean, there's just too many variables. It's unpredictable. Right. So, I mean, those are those are OK. And, you know, I have this this rule of of four hours, I call it. And it's is it is it reliable? Is it going to work? You know, when I call it in to go to work, is it going to show up? That's the number one thing, especially like our firearms class. What gun should I buy? And I'm like, the one that goes bang. I'm not going to get into name brands.

SPEAKER 07 : 23:38

To me, I look at that one, Bill, a lot like people ask me, what car do I buy? Gosh, that is such a deep subject. It's like, again, to your point, buying a firearm. I mean, the reality is every car is going to go from A to B. But what are your needs? What are you looking to do? Does it fit you? I mean, really, there's a lot of comparisons between that and a gun because at the end of the day, if it's not the right fit for you and it's not serving its purpose, it's the wrong choice.

SPEAKER 10 : 24:06

It's a paperweight.

SPEAKER 07 : 24:08

By the way, I don't care what the Internet or anybody else says as well because it's still the wrong choice.

SPEAKER 10 : 24:13

Right, right. It's very personal, you know, and everybody has different hands and different needs and different requirements, and there's just no cookie-cutter answer whatsoever. And that's why you want to have, in that regard, a coach that's going to come alongside you and not just say, well, I'm a Glock guy, and I love Glocks, but a Glock might not work for you. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER 07 : 24:37

I'll give you a really quick, not to get off on a tangent, but I'll give you a quick example. I don't have huge hands, and while I love Sig Sauer, and I think they make a very top-of-the-line product, Bill, and I've owned several of their products, There are guns over the years. The reality is it's not one I shoot effectively because it's too big for my hands.

SPEAKER 10 : 24:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER 07 : 24:57

So there's a great example of what you're talking about.

SPEAKER 10 : 25:00

Yeah, I have a lot of ladies come to my class. I don't know why, but we have a lot of women that come to my firearm class. A lot of them go, I got my permit, but I've never fired. Can you teach me how to shoot? And I had this one elderly lady come up, and she had a Desert Eagle gun. And I'm like, what are you going to do with that? And she's like, my husband says I need to learn how to shoot this.

SPEAKER 07 : 25:22

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER 10 : 25:22

Well, she did one shot, and she was terrified. I said, you know what, let me give you another gun. I gave her a .22. Right. And she got comfortable with that. So to your point, you know, is it reliable? Is it going to show up? Whatever charger I have, whatever battery I have, is it going to show up? Right. There's all kinds of choices. You get lead-out. Great point. Do you get lithium? Do you get lithium ion? Do you get – I mean, it's just – there's –

SPEAKER 07 : 25:56

for you and i think a lot of the prep preparedness stuff is where i hate that term you know prepper because as you know it brings on so many different you know connotations i i like the you know let's be prepared for anything the what-ifs of life it's kind of our motto here on you know ready radio and and again bill even even flashlights i mean good grief how many different you know types and brands and so on of flashlights are on the market i mean when we were kids uh... there wasn't too many Today, there are, and I'm not exaggerating, Bill, there's thousands.

SPEAKER 10 : 26:27

Yeah, and then the charging mechanism, they come with their own charging mechanism.

SPEAKER 07 : 26:32

Correct.

SPEAKER 10 : 26:32

It's like, great, now you lost the charger. and, and what do I do now? Cause I don't have the ability to charge that particular flashlight. And I've, I've got workarounds on all that, by the way, and we can get into that. This is a, we're just going to, we're just going to scratch.

SPEAKER 07 : 26:44

We're a high level. No, that's exactly right. High level. And then again, a lot of our listeners, you know, they're, these are, you know, sharp listeners and they understand some of what we're talking about and even have probably some of their own, you know, preferences when it comes to, to brands and things along those lines. And although I think there's a lot of folks listening to bill that are, very new to this they're trying to learn and follow along and it's partially why they listen to the program so i mean we have everything from you know that high level what i would call an expert that could probably sit here in this chair and do just as well as i am to somebody that's very uh much a novice i guess you could say and really trying to figure out what should i have stocked and ready to go and i will tell you this to your point earlier bill at the end of the day does it turn on and produce light

SPEAKER 10 : 27:30

That's exactly right. Is it reliable? That's the first R, John. Is it reliable? Is it going to work? So just real quick, I can help with the battery situation. So no matter what phone you have, you can Google it and say, what is the amp hour capacity of my phone battery? And let's just say it's 500 milliamps. Let's just throw out a number.

SPEAKER 07 : 27:50

That's fine. We'll go with that.

SPEAKER 10 : 27:51

So now I've got 500 milliamps.

SPEAKER 07 : 27:57

Or whatever. You broke up for just one minute, so you lost us, or I lost you. It's 500 milliamps, and then you broke up.

SPEAKER 10 : 28:06

Okay, so we'll just go with that number. It's 500 milliamps. And so now I'm going to look what little power cell or little thing I'm going to have with me to charge my phone in case of emergency. So if I find one and I look at the amp hour capacity, and it's 250 milliamps, I ain't going to charge my phone. No. No. No. If it's 500 milliamps, I'm going to get one charge out of that phone. Right. Correct. If it's 1,000 milliamps, I'll get two charges out of that power bank before I have to recharge it. So you need to understand, and that's the first thing you need to look at, understand what your phone... And by the way, this was just an anonymous number, right? I just pulled the number out of thin air. I don't know what your phone is. I think mine's like 2,500 milliamps. And so... You know, I've got a couple chargers, and I was like, oh, this one's like 5,000. I'll get two chargers out of it. Now you've also got battery conditions, and after that first charge, I've lost the ability to charge more because it's all based on, you know, how much availability within that power. I mean, batteries is a huge, huge topic. But here's an interesting thing. So in my work truck, I bought a 200-amp hour battery. And that's a ton, right? Right. It's a lithium battery. And, you know, I got my microwave and my Keurig and a couple, you know, little battery chargers on there for my compact tools, things of that nature. Well, I realized something, John. I realized is it was getting colder, right? It was losing a charge overnight.

SPEAKER 07 : 29:39

And then it wouldn't charge again. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER 10 : 29:41

Yeah. And so I'm like, hmm, this isn't going to work. And so I went over to Batteries Plus and I bought a lead acid. Hmm. 100 amp battery, right? And listen, that thing's holding charge. So you got to understand there's the purpose for a NiCab. There's a purpose for a lithium. There's a purpose for the old Duracell. And does the Duracell hold up as much as the Energizer? Here's my answer. You got to test it. You got to test it for what you need it for. Your life is different than mine, right? I live on...

SPEAKER 07 : 30:17

cordless tools right when i started the electrical trade we didn't have them right we stretched a cord yeah hey no i know in the automotive world it was the same way back in the day bill either had compressed air or a cord one of the two

SPEAKER 10 : 30:29

Yeah, you either turn that screw by hand or you had a corded screwdriver or a corded screw gun. And I remember Panasonic came out with a cordless. This was even before Makita. Panasonic came out with a cordless screwdriver, and I went and got that, and I was the envy of everybody. Well, yeah. And then, you know, Makita's and all that. But, you know, even these guys are frustrating because, you know, you grab your cordless tool and you get out there and you get a couple turns on it, and it's like, oh, battery's dead. So I have this rule. It's the ABC. Always be charging.

SPEAKER 07 : 31:02

Good point. I do, too. Do the same thing. Yep, absolutely.

SPEAKER 10 : 31:06

ABC, right? I'm always charging. Some people say it's bad for your phone if you charge it and it's at 80%. Listen, I don't care.

SPEAKER 07 : 31:15

I'd rather have that and be at 100. Case in point, we'll go back to the flashlights. For a lot of you listening, there's a lot of wall-mounted flashlights that are rechargeable, that literally are portable. to Bill's point, charging all the time. There's, you know, everything from, you know, Streamlight on down and you can spend as little or as much money as you want. But I'm kind of like you, Bill. I kind of feel like I want that flashlight constantly charging on the wall where if I need any kind, you know, if I need a flashlight, you know, Any time of day, night, whatever it happens to be, because, by the way, you can use them during the day for finding different things and so on. So when you have them handy, you'll use them a lot more, by the way. But I want that thing always charged up. I'm going to grab it out of its cradle. I'll go use it, do whatever I need to do. It goes right back on the cradle and charges up. In the case of a Streamlight, there's always an extra battery sitting there that's always charged and ready to go. And to your point, though, Bill, because of that, plan on replacing those batteries about every third year or so because they're not going to last forever.

SPEAKER 10 : 32:18

Right. Absolutely. You know, and you change them out. It's no big deal. I'll give you, we'll jump to another topic here since we're on the topic of flashlight, but it ties into batteries. So I personally carry the Mini Warrior 2 O-Lite. That's my everyday flashlight. And I'll tell you, John, I kid you not, I use it every stinking day. There's not a day that goes by that Hey, like you said, I dropped something down on the floor of the car, and I'm looking for it. I use this thing all the time. And, you know, unfortunately, Olight has a special charger. But guess what? It's an 1865 battery. 18560 battery. So they are different, but what I did was I've got chargers now that will charge 18650 batteries. And I carry about five of them with me. And I've also got this phone bank that will take those batteries. So not only does that charge my batteries, but in a pinch, I can turn around and use that to charge my phone. But here's the cool thing about it. I can interchange that battery. My battery goes dead. I've got four other Olight batteries here. to throw in that guy. So, you know, it's repeatable. I've got redundancy. A couple of more of those laws, those R's that I have, I have redundancy. This flashlight, this battery in this flashlight has a dual purpose now because I can use it in a few different applications.

SPEAKER 07 : 33:49

Great idea. Oh, that is, and for all of you listening, it's one of those things where a lot of the books and stuff that I read, Bill, on an ongoing basis, some of what we're talking about right now, that's why it's number one, by the way, becomes one of the, if not the first thing that a lot of folks start struggling with because, of course, none of that was prepared. Some of these people find themselves on the run. They get into nighttime. There's no ability to see because nobody planned ahead to have any kind of a, a flashlight and now you're trying to rely on you know coming up with some sort of a torch or something along those lines out of you know a stick and tar and so on you know now you're back to the primitive end of things where if you just planned ahead a little bit you'd had a flashlight on you

SPEAKER 10 : 34:35

Yeah, and tactically speaking, a lot of people like the lights on the gun, and 90% of people don't know how to use a light on a gun. I'm not going to be room-clearing my house or going through the trees with the light on the gun because all I'm doing is telling the bad guy, shoot here. You know, it's a force multiplier. It's a deterrent. You know, I can flash your eyes, you know, get around, get away, whatever. But, you know, if I'm walking now, to your point, through the woods with a— a makeshift torch, you know, I can't turn that guy off, you know, when it needs to be turned off.

SPEAKER 07 : 35:10

That's right. It's a flame.

SPEAKER 10 : 35:11

I'm like, oh, my God.

SPEAKER 07 : 35:13

So really quick, too. Somebody texted just a second ago and asked me personally, and I'll get your opinion on this, Bill. Are you ever worried about those, you know, batteries and chargers catching fire? And, Bill, I'll just be straight up honest. I never lose an ounce of sleep over that. It doesn't even cross my mind.

SPEAKER 10 : 35:28

Yeah, I mean, it happens.

SPEAKER 07 : 35:31

It does, but I don't worry about it. I just don't.

SPEAKER 10 : 35:36

Well, so if you worry about it, then you take... You know, again, you prepare to protect. That's the name of my agenda here. You prepare to protect. So if you need to protect against fire with your batteries, then you need to prepare your batteries or store your batteries in such a way that if that happens, you've got means to deal with it, right? So, you know, yeah. These are all hypotheticals, by the way, and they're so hard to answer with an absolute. But the answer is, if you're worried about it, great. Then take whatever means you need to take.

SPEAKER 07 : 36:12

Yeah, if you're somebody that that's something that is a concern to you. And by the way, I'm not trying to diminish that or play that down. Just me personally, it's not a big deal. I have all sorts of things that are on chargers, like the flashlight on the wall. And no, I don't worry about that catching fire. I mean, I guess the way I... Maybe I'm looking at that wrong, Bill, but the way I look at that is Streamlight, in this case, is a very large company. If something were to happen and that burns the house down, guess who's getting sued?

SPEAKER 10 : 36:38

Yeah, yeah, and most of these modern chargers now, they have smart charging within them, and once it reaches a certain level, they shut themselves off.

SPEAKER 07 : 36:46

That's right. Well, and thank you for saying that, Bill, because, by the way, for all of you listening, I do think this is where the quality of what you're buying and doing, and I get it, there's been cell phones that ignite and different things. That's why airlines only allow certain things in certain areas of the plane and so on. I get all of that, but I do think, Bill, there's something to be said about What is the product you just bought? Where did it come from, and what's its quality?

SPEAKER 10 : 37:11

Yeah, absolutely. That's a big one, right? Because we face this in our electrical and HVAC all the time. You know, hey, I hired this guy. He was cheaper than you. Well, then you're calling me back to come fix it. Right. You know, that's a tough one, and it's a tough one because we're all struggling. That dollar... is tight for everybody. So I get it. I get it. My analogy is the organic milk. I go to the grocery store and there's a three-gallon jug of milk and there's an $8 gallon jug of milk. And to me, unless I understand the benefits or to me, whatever the benefits may be for the organic milk, listen, I only got three bucks. I got other things to buy, so I'm buying that. And I understand that.

SPEAKER 07 : 37:58

Correct. Good way of looking at it. And again, for all of you that are listening, and that was a good question that came in, by the way, and I've had that question come in for me. And, you know, I mean, will I take a Milwaukee? and just leave it on the charger, to your point, Bill, because that way it's always charged and ready to go. Yeah, I do, but I use the – now, I will say this. I only use genuine Milwaukee batteries and their charger. I don't buy any of the China imitation stuff either.

SPEAKER 10 : 38:28

Yeah, I mean, that's a gamble, right? It's hit or miss. Agreed. Yeah. Agreed. I mean, it's a hit or miss on anything. Any technology comes with a risk, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER 07 : 38:39

This next one, I'm going to take a break, come back, because I talked about this briefly last week, and that's the communication end of things. There's a lot to be said on that. We won't get it covered even in this next segment, but we can kind of get started on that, because this one comes up a lot, and I know you've got some experience on the communication aspect. So, guys, hang tight. Again, you're listening to a live program. This is Ready Radio on January the 17th. You're going to be listening to a replay show. You know exactly... What day it is, we'll be right back, though. Don't forget website ready-radio.com.

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SPEAKER 07 : 43:09

All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Bill Anderson with me today. And Bill, appreciate you joining us. Let's talk about emergency communication. And I think, at least for me, there's different levels of this. At least this is how I would look at it. In other words, we have emergency communication right now in regards to cell phones, as long as those are working. When they stop, though, what's next and what do those layers look like?

SPEAKER 10 : 43:38

Yeah, again, another topic we could spend weeks and so much time on.

SPEAKER 07 : 43:44

And by the way, for those of you listening, Bill, we will. We'll come back to this, so we'll just kind of do this for the next, I don't know, we've got about 12 to 14 minutes or so left of the show. We can kind of do high level, and then we can come back and dig into this in detail.

SPEAKER 10 : 43:58

Yeah, so one of my other foundational things that I kind of teach and talk about as far as all this stuff is what I call the layers. And so you have a personal layer, a vehicle layer, and then a home layer. And we need to be thinking in those terms. So in communications, we need to be thinking on those terms. But then in communications, too, you've got, hey, I've got secure, you know, and I've got unsecure. and so that could also play a fact in how you communicate true so one of the things yeah we always got the cell phones right we we kind of take that for granted um but you know you get into an area where you know we do a lot of electrical work doing generators and stuff up in the mountains and our cell phones don't work so um you know i got to go to another means of communication there right so when i look at communications i'm gonna personally here's what i do i mean obviously the cell phone But I also have GRMS radios, and I have them with me. I have two of those handheld radios in my truck, and it has served me well because I'll grab one, I'll give one to who I'm working with that particular day, and I'm like, hey, let's talk because you're in an attic in a whatever crawl space, whatever. We don't have solar reception. We can still communicate. So the GRMS, and by the way, that's an easy application. Now, I know we might have, you and I might have a little bit of differences as far as Going through the legalities and the training and getting the proper licensing on things, and I'll tell you why I view the way that I view it versus maybe what you do. So, you know, you can go on to the GRMS, get the application. It's like $35 for a family license. So that means anybody in your family can use that same license and you can communicate. The other layer is ham radio, and here's where you and I might not 100% agree with it. I do think you need to get at least your first level license.

SPEAKER 07 : 45:55

No, I would agree. I think you're spot on on that. I would agree with you with that because, as you know, that's one of those things where when all else fails, those guys will still be operating.

SPEAKER 10 : 46:06

Yeah, and here's why, John. I may have misheard you that day when you said, yeah, whatever, it's too hard, it might be too hard for you, don't worry about it. So anyway, here's why. It goes back to what we had started this whole conversation with today. You need to be practicing this stuff. When Hades comes to town, or the poop hits the paddle, as I like to say, now's not the time to learn how to use your ham radio. You need to be up and running. You need to be somewhat proficient with that. before that happens because that's not the learning time. And so it's worthwhile. I'm a member of Parker Radio Club. I took my test through them. There's a wonderful app if anybody's interested. It really helps the test-taking process, helps you learn it. I nailed it in the first time. It wasn't that hard. I mean, yes, I'm an electrician. I had a lot of help with that because of my knowledge. But, you know, you need to get it and you need to be working it. So that, you know, you could become somewhat proficient with it. And then the other thing, I know you had mentioned the rapid radios and, you know, there's some consideration with that. But one thing that I've been messing with and practicing with is that of Meshtastic. Have you heard of that?

SPEAKER 07 : 47:19

I have.

SPEAKER 10 : 47:20

Yeah, Meshtastic. So we've been playing around with that. It's more secure. Yes, it uses your phone, but it's a radio. It doesn't require cell phone towers. You know, it's basically a low-frequency radio, and they bounce off of the nodes. They bounce off of each other, and you build your network. And, you know, at least you can have, you know, I'm fortunate enough to have a setup at the church. At least I have some kind of a, if you will, radio grid that I can communicate with a couple people on if I need to. So I've got, again, layers, right? I've got a secure one, a not-so-secure one. So GRMS, handheld, I've got a mix of this, and I think you need to have a mix of things.

SPEAKER 07 : 48:05

Yeah, and I can't argue with that at all, and I agree with you. Now, I've never mentioned this much on air. As a company, we run off of a repeater in two ways and so on, and that's all fine and dandy until some of that is no longer – you know, available, as you know. And that's true even like, you know, as I mentioned last week with the rapid radios. You know, those are great as long as cell towers are up and functioning and so on. The minute those are not, then you're going to have to find other means to communicate, of course.

SPEAKER 10 : 48:35

Right, right. So it goes back to my redundancy. You've heard that saying, you know, two is one or one is none, two is one, three for me. You've heard that saying before. Right. A lot of people misunderstand that. They say, hey, I've got a lighter, so I need to have two, so I've got two lighters.

SPEAKER 07 : 48:51

No, you need to have two. You have other forms of that is what you need.

SPEAKER 10 : 48:54

Correct. Correct, because if that lighter gets wet, well, guess what? Both lighters are wet. Two of them did me no good. Right. So, you know, we're layering things. I've got, oh, I've got a lighter, and now I've got a flint, and maybe I've got matches. I've got three ways. And by the way, I have a secondary flashlight built into my Garmin watch, which I use almost on the daily as well. So there's redundancy there. And communications, John, is the same way. Communications, right? And if we go back to, you know, wagons, if you lose everything, you know, I mean, the pre-planned that you have with your family, is a means of communication. It's called pre-communications. And it's like, that's how you and I grew up, right? Right. You know, hey, went out to play and mom said, be home at this time. And you need to be home then.

SPEAKER 07 : 49:42

Yeah. It's funny you say that, you know, before the invention of the cell phone, which, you know, came along and got a lot more popular in the you know, late 80s, early 90s. I know someone's going to correct me and say the cell phones were around way before that. And yes, they were. And certain rich people or realtors, maybe even Bill, had some of those, you know, prior to that. And that I understand. But they really became prevalent in really, you know, early, probably even mid-90s is where they really started to become more prevalent, where the average everyday person, you know, had a cell phone. Prior to that, and I look, you know, think back in time, Bill, to where... When the phone rang, it was corded, you answered it, and whoever was on the other end, you had whatever conversation. If somebody was there they wanted to talk to, fine. If not, you let them know when they were going to be back and whatever, and you did the whole message pad thing or whatever you had to do because this was even before message machines existed and call on hold and all the other things that we started to get as time went by. But you and I grew up in a time where none of that existed, and yet somehow we communicated.

SPEAKER 10 : 50:45

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you woke up and, you know, we woke up in that generation where, you know, we rarely saw our parents because we raised ourselves. And, you know, you woke up and there was a note on the kitchen table. That was the communication.

SPEAKER 07 : 50:57

Right. Exactly. And by the way, sometimes that note would be left on the other side of it for the communication. And that's just how we did things.

SPEAKER 10 : 51:05

Correct. Yeah, that's exactly right.

SPEAKER 07 : 51:07

Point being, we made it work, and I think today, Bill, a lot of folks have become so dependent. I think that is the right word, so dependent on some of the things we have right now that you really need to think outside the box as to how would we communicate if those didn't exist.

SPEAKER 10 : 51:24

Yeah, yeah. I have a term that I use in all of my classes, and even within my company when somebody calls me, I say FSO. And it means figure stuff out. Go FSO that. Go figure that out. Because that's how you and I grew up. We didn't have these things. We didn't have people to ask. Our parents weren't around. We had to figure stuff out. You know, we're a unique generation in the matter, you know.

SPEAKER 07 : 51:50

So for somebody, you know, so for, and I know this is another topic, like I said earlier, we can get into and get into a little bit more depth and so on. What would you recommend? So somebody that needs to get into the, you know, ham end of things, you know, what are some basic things they should be looking at to at least get started there?

SPEAKER 10 : 52:07

Well, the first thing I would do, there's a couple apps you can download. M Radio Prep is the one that I personally used, and it got me ready for my general, not my general, but my first license, the technician license. And I just hit it every day. I took those practice tests. I scheduled a test. I went in and I nailed it. And I had ham radios. I had, you know, the Balfangs. And a lot of people are like, oh, Balfangs. Again, we're not going back to brand. We're not going back to any of that. It's like, does it work? Does it not work? Does it fit your needs? Great. You know, I'm not trying to beam NASA right now. Me neither. I'm just trying to talk to my family. That's right. You know, three stories up in this building right now. So, you know, you've got to work with what's with you. Don't get hung up on... oh, you don't wear Levi's, you wear whatever.

SPEAKER 07 : 52:55

I think this one kind of comes back to, Bill, the whole, you know, we talked about cars and guns, you know, earlier in the program, and, you know, this, again, becomes something that, you know, at the end of the day, what's going to work for you? If at the end of the day, power's gone, we had some sort of an EMP, you know, blast or cyber security, you know, cyber attack, something along those lines, and all of a sudden nothing's working, okay, what are you going to use at that point in time? And, again, Bill, I'm one where, It could be smoke signals. And if that works for you and your family, I don't really care.

SPEAKER 10 : 53:26

That's what you got to do. You know, EMPs are, it's an interesting topic, right? Because you don't really know what an EMP is going to do. And if an EMP goes off, you know, it's going to have different effects on, you know, different regions, right? If it goes off in New York, we might not have an impact here in Colorado. I don't know. You don't test that stuff. So how do you really know?

SPEAKER 07 : 53:48

And by the way, they've done some testing and someone even turned the test off as things started to go awry, if you would. And I've done even interviews with the individuals that were involved in some of that stuff way back when, not on this program, but on my daily program. And reality, Bill, is there's a lot of unknowns with that, to your point, because we really don't have a solid answer on a lot of those things.

SPEAKER 10 : 54:09

Yeah, you have no idea. So we could say, well, what if an EMP? Yeah, what if? It may affect you. It may not. And there's a lot more to EMPs, too, right? You could have the attack of an EMP, but you could also just have a massive solar flare from the sun that takes that stuff. That happened, when was it, like in the 1800s, late 1800s?

SPEAKER 07 : 54:30

It wiped out a lot of the telegram services we had at that time.

SPEAKER 10 : 54:35

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Because those free electrons jumped on whatever conductor it was and smoked it.

SPEAKER 07 : 54:41

That's right.

SPEAKER 10 : 54:42

But anyway, you know, you need to have this layered approach. Number one thing is you need to have communication, verbal communication with your loved ones as to what you're going to do. You know, like if when me and my wife go into a store and for whatever reason we separate, he knows that. I'm going to go to the front and I'm going to stand by the cash register. So she's not going to go up and down the aisles looking for me. She can't find me. I can't find her. We're going to meet at this point. So you have that pre-verbal communication. Having that plan is so important, you know, and it's pretty easy to do, but we take it for granted. But then I would just layer it. I would have, you know, some type of a walkie-talkie or a GMRS, handheld communication. And then you can layer, right? Then maybe I've got a similar one, you know, in my car, which is a dual function. I can GRMS, I can ham radio in my car, you know, and maybe I have something else at home. But the point is, is whatever you're going to do, don't buy it and let it sit on a box on your shelf going, hey, I'm prepped, I'm ready.

SPEAKER 07 : 55:42

Use it.

SPEAKER 10 : 55:44

Play with it. I play with mine all the time. I got my moustachic in my car right now as we speak, running around hitting nodes, having fun communicating to people, and I'm figuring stuff out now. Great point. That would be my number one advice.

SPEAKER 07 : 55:58

All right, before I let you go, we've got about a minute left here. Tell folks about your seminar one more time so we can get folks out to it.

SPEAKER 10 : 56:05

Yeah, we got a AHA BLS class. And if you're a medical provider and you need a class, this will qualify. And we're tagging on to that Stop the Bleed. course where we'll teach you trauma stuff. So that's happening on January 25th. And we're in the transition of changing all our emails and websites to the best one. It's just Bill at A-R-K-E-H-C.com to email me if you're interested in that class.

SPEAKER 07 : 56:31

Okay. Awesome. And again, folks, as we get a little further along, we'll link all these things up and have all the websites rolling and so on. Bill and I have a lot of things in store for you here for... Bill, look forward to it. I appreciate your time today very much. And we will do this again in the not too distant future, sir.

SPEAKER 10 : 56:48

Sounds good. We'll talk to you soon.

SPEAKER 07 : 56:50

Thanks, Bill. Appreciate you very much. And one last thing, too, that I should just throw in there for a lot of you that are listening where you may be interested in doing a whole home generator, I will tell you that Bill is a great resource on that end of things as well, figuring out how to size it, who you call to get it installed, where would you buy it from, and so on. Bill is a great resource along those lines. And, again, we're going to be doing more and more together. I've known Bill for, wow, a number of years now. And... Good friend, and we're going to be doing some things in the future together along these lines because he's going to help fill in some things that I just don't have time to do. So, Bill, thank you very much. I appreciate that. And again, folks, just go to the website, ready-radio.com. Thanks for listening today. We'll be back with our next program. Don't go anywhere. This is KLZ 560.

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