HR2 Rush To Reason March 25, 2025 by John Rush
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All right, hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Larry Barron's joining us now. Communications Director at Power of the Future. Larry, welcome back.
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Oh, it's so great to talk with you. Thanks for having me.
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Always a joy, and I've got to start with this. Did you ever think the day would come, because you and I have done plenty of segments over the years, in some cases an entire hour, where we've talked about everything from EVs and all the different things that were going on and the different policies and so on, but did you ever think there would be a day whereby you would be seeing Teslas, Cybertrucks, and so on literally being defaced because of the guy that owns the company?
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It was. And you're absolutely right. We've talked a lot, especially about EVs so many times. And, you know, I would say if someone asked me, would they turn against their own? I would say yes. But in this way, when it was Elon Musk, I would say, oh, no, they'll probably know that'd be too sacred for them. But I would have been wrong, as we've seen over the past month or so.
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By the way, I would have said the same, and I've taken my share of pot shots at Tesla over the years, and I will be the first to admit that way back when, especially when Elon was on the other side of the aisle, and I thought a lot of the things that went on, subsidies and so on, were not correct. I'll still stand by that. I still think to this day they weren't correct in how that was done. But at the end of the day, I honestly, Larry, never thought that true, hard-core,
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tesla fanboys and girls would be this way yeah and and well and that's just it right because when we disagree with a company on our side we will speak about it we'll talk about it maybe protest but resort to just destruction never destruction never yeah the destruction of property and destruction that hurts other people right you know lighting an electric vehicle on fire is the zone above lighting just an internal combustion vehicle on fire. There are leftists out there in mass deciding that this is the way they're going to get back. They see something on the news that they don't like, and the first thought in their head is, you know what, I'm just going to turn violent. The only way that I'm going to stop this is become violent. It is completely irrational thought, and we have to realize that this is a long, long pattern. of violence, sadly, from the left, and it is something that is not new.
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And I can't argue with anything that you just said, and you're the same way. I will always protect somebody's right to protest. I will never, ever take that away. Free speech, protest, it is the fundamentals of what we as a free country have, and I will protect somebody's right, even when I don't agree with them, I will protect their right to do those things. But, Larry, that stops at the destruction and vandalism and so on of somebody else's private property. The reality is it's theirs. They own it. It's not yours. Leave your hands off of it.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, Ben & Jerry's, I happen to be on spring break with my kids, and we see a Ben & Jerry's shop. You know what I do? I just say, I'm not going there. Ben & Jerry's takes stances that I don't appreciate, so I don't spend my money. It was the same with the beer company. I'm not a drinker, but I was boycotting it, I guess, before beer was cool. But it's the same. We just say, you know what? We're just not going to spend our money there. We don't feel the need to run in there. overturn tubs of ice cream to set beer delivery trucks on fire we don't feel the need to do any of that and that is a key difference and and it's a historical difference i mean the left has been doing this with for a long time they will take something that they tell you is sacred it's electric vehicles like we're supposed to all be buying or even a forest and they will insert spikes into trees they will kill trees to save the trees And in the leftist mind, you have to get into the mindset of, it's like a religion, because they are able to look at their opponents, demonize them as less than human, and so it makes their actions completely acceptable. And there has been no massive outcry from the left saying, stop this. This should not be happening.
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And to your point, Larry, there should be. And folks that are listening, I'll give you other examples. personally of things that like you larry that i have done i'm i'm a you know gun toting america i conceal carry uh not long ago i shouldn't say that a while back so it is it's been a few years time flies panera bread one of those companies that basically came out and said you know if you're one of those individuals we we don't want you in our store in fact we don't allow you in so larry i was one of those that just kindly said okay fine i'll take my business elsewhere What's interesting about the Panera Bread story is I must not have been the only person that did that because, frankly, they're not doing as well as they once were. And you have to wonder at times, do some of these policies that some of these corporations put out, like Ben and Jerry's, at the end of the day, really affect them? Now, I'm going to say all that to say this. This is my prediction, Larry. I think you're going to actually end up seeing some EV owners out of this whole Tesla debacle that the left is doing. And frankly, I think you might see some people actually buy Teslas that wouldn't have otherwise bought them just because of what's going on with the destruction.
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You're absolutely right, John. It's interesting to see folks on our side who decried Tesla for a little while saying, you know, those Cybertrucks don't look bad. Just like you, I stand by what I said with electric vehicles. I don't think they're more environmentally friendly.
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They're not.
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They're not. I think they're okay in some specific use cases, and if you want to buy one, great. I just don't want to have to subsidize as a taxpayer, and I don't want to be forced to buy one as a consumer. And that's all we're trying to do. But again, it gives us a glimpse into the left, right? And so when they are in power, they have to force you to buy their products. When we are in power, we give people a choice, and the left just cannot handle that because they know that, by and large, the people are not going to choose what the left demands they choose.
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And this whole reverse psychology on this end of things might actually come back to, I don't know whether you say bite them, but at the end of the day, you may actually see more Tesla owners that wouldn't have otherwise driven Teslas. And I, like you, I own an EV, have since 2020, only so I could sit on this program and my other... my other auto program I do on Saturday, so I could really be educated about them, talk about it, and I'm like you. Number one, nobody should be forced to buy them. Number two, nobody should be subsidized to buy them. Number three, are they going to work for everyone? That's an absolute big fat no, because no, they will not work for everyone.
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Yeah, and you have the Chevy Volt, if I remember correctly, right?
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That's right.
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The OG of some of those electric vehicles. So good for you getting in there and understanding things before a lot of people did. But my favorite thing that I'm seeing right now, and I'm sure you are too, is you'll see those Teslas out on the road in your neck of the woods, and they'll have the sticker on it like, against Elon, or bought it before I knew. I didn't like Elon, and I have to giggle to myself. It's like, okay, you bought this car to virtual signal to everybody else how much better you are, and now you have to throw a sticker on that same car to virtual signal to yourself.
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It's so ridiculous. Well, and here's what they really should be thinking inside of their own head is, okay, wait a minute. I'm now having to put a sticker on this saying who I am because otherwise my like-minded individuals will now eat my lunch and damage my car. How ironic, Larry. They're having to put a sticker on something to prove who they are so that their own kind won't destroy their property. How ironic.
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That's such a great point, and I never thought about that. It is self-protection of them signaling to their fellow leftists of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay if you destroy Tesla, it's just not mine.
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Right. Go do that to somebody else's that doesn't have this sticker, but leave mine alone.
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Yeah, it is absolutely insane, and it tells you, I mean, listen, they don't, go by their principles. If they went by their principles that EVs are good for the environment, that they wouldn't be destroying EVs. If they go by their principles that trees are good for the environment, they wouldn't spike them. If they went by their principles, they wouldn't, you know, Colorado was home to one of the biggest eco-terrorist actions in the nation, and they went after a ski resort. So they go after nature, and they go after these things that they say are all-important And it just leads me to believe, and folks, it's all about power for them. It's not about the things that they say. That's right. It's all about they have to have the power to force us to impose their will on us.
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You're right. Talk to us about Power of the Future. How do folks learn more?
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They can head on over to the website anytime they want, powerofthefuture.com. They can send me those Elon bumper stickers at Larry at powerofthefuture.com anytime they want.
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You're awesome. Larry, always appreciate it very much. Thank you.
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You have a good one. Appreciate it.
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You too, man. Appreciate you. Have a great night. Larry Behrens again, Power of the Future. Veteran Windows and Doors is up next. We learned from Dave yesterday that he's got a special going on right now. 35% off three windows or less. Or if you buy four or more, it's 40% off and free labor to install them. Find Dave today at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dovetailing back into what we were talking about with Larry in regards to a lot of the literally vandalism that you're seeing on Teslas especially, coast to coast. And it is only Teslas. You're not seeing this with a lot of the other EV makers. Now, keep in mind, there are more Tesla EVs on the road than there are anybody else because they've been made the longest. Now, all that being said... None of the vandalism is ever correct, period. I don't care who's doing it. Never right. Doesn't matter which side is doing it. It's something that I just abhor. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that you would harm somebody else's property. I guess it's the way I was raised. I mean, I was raised to where if you're walking by and the keys are in the car, keep on walking. Not your property. Doesn't matter. House unlocked? Doesn't matter. Not your property. It's just how I was raised. Evidently, others haven't been raised the same way because they feel like it's okay to either steal or damage or set on fire someone else's property. I just can't think. And my brain doesn't work that way, folks. I just cannot think in my mind how that's okay or how someone can justify that. Destroying someone else's property, it's unjustifiable, period. Period. I was even, and I'm sure Charlie can maybe relate to this, and all of us might be able to, some better than others. So when Charlie and I were young, and some of you listening are probably the same way, there were those kids that would run out and toilet paper someone else's house. You're getting back at somebody, it's a prank, and it's a silly prank, and I get it, and it's sort of somewhat harmless, or people would egg Charlie. other houses and cars or things like that. Personally speaking, I didn't participate in those things. I might have maybe, maybe, maybe. And I got to really think back onto this. TP'd someone else's house. And TP'ing meaning you take rolls of toilet paper, you throw them over the trees and different things, and when somebody woke up the next morning, they'd see that their house had been TP'd. And my house got targeted more often than not and always made my dad mad. And I had to be the kid that always went out and cleaned it all up, which was a pain in the neck. And Charlie, I'm sure that you were very much the same way. Again, I guess because I had to clean it up as much as I did, I didn't participate in the other much because it was just one of those things I didn't want to do. And Charlie never did it, he said. I might have, I'm saying, and I'm not joking, I may have done it once or twice my entire life, and I'm not sure I even did that much, but somebody probably knows me and would correct me and say, well, remember the time? Well, okay, maybe I did. But let me just say this. It was not a regular thing for me, and I never egged anybody's house. I can tell you that right now because I also know that when you egg somebody's house or car, depending upon that car and what's happening, it actually can cause damage to the paint and other things. So I didn't do that. And it's just me. I think because I'm so particular, and I even was as a kid, that I looked at all of that as just not right. You're still affecting someone else's belongings and property by doing so, and I would never do that. So in my book, it definitely isn't okay to light somebody else's property on fire. I know this is going to sound really gross. There's actually video running around where there are these weirdo folks from I don't know where. I don't even know if I want to call them lefties because they're just gross individuals that literally are rubbing feces on Teslas, Cybertrucks, things like that. Yes, literally. I'm not exaggerating. It's the most disgusting thing you'll ever watch. And I can't think of anything more disgusting and what goes on in someone's mind to do things like that. You're mentally ill when you're doing these sorts of things. I honestly think you're mentally ill when you're out destroying other people's property like this as well. OK, so with all that being said. Would I go out and buy a Tesla? I mean, it makes you really want to support Elon Musk and a lot of what he's doing. And I'm a car guy. That's my problem with Teslas. I'm a car guy. And even to this day, even as long as he's built these cars. Unfortunately for me personally, the fit and finish of the car still isn't up to my standards. And I'm saying this is, and maybe Elon, somebody can pass this along, but you can literally go buy one of the cheapest models of any other vehicle out there, Toyota, Mazda, Chevy, I can go down the list, and the fit and finish of those will be better than a Tesla that costs twice as much. And I'm not exaggerating. So Charlie says, explain what that is. And when you, for example, walk up to the car and look at how the doors are lined up, and yes, I'm very critical of these things, but does the gap around the entire door, is it equal? And is it equal to the other side? So is the left side equal to the right side? Is the back door equal to the front door? Is the deck lid equal to the hood? And you get my drift. In other words, are the gaps all around? You know, when you fit the hood and you look at the left side versus the right side versus the nose versus what's up against the cow, is all of that equal? If it's not, then that's a problem for someone like me. It drives me crazy. I look at it, and I'm just like, this thing's crap. How could you drive that? Now, I get it. Others do. The problem, though, is I think a lot of Tesla owners aren't car people. I'll just say it straight up. Now, some are. Some folks that have bought a Plaid, which is their fastest version, and they are really, really fast. Some of those guys might be car guys, but most Tesla owners aren't car guys. And those sorts of things, body gaps and things like that, just drive me crazy. I was over at Roy from ProTech, who's one of my sponsors on the weekend, and he does wraps and clear bras and all sorts of things. And he had a couple of Teslas in there that he was working on. And I look at this one Tesla, and I'm like, is that a new car? He's like, yeah, it's brand new. And I'm like, the bumper itself isn't the same color as the rest of the car. He's like, yeah, we know. I'm like, really? I said, does the owner know that? Yeah, the owner knows that. They told him that prior to it being shipped. There was some damage at the factory, and they had a choice of fixing it there. Or he could skip and get another car and so on. But at the end of the day, he was okay with it, and he just took the car. I said, well, it's like a shade off. It's not even close. He's like, yeah, we know. That's the stuff I'm talking about when it comes to the Tesla fit and finish versus what you'll find buying other cars. They're not the same. Sorry. Even today, and again, I love everything Elon's doing with Doge and all of that, but his car company, while it's technologically advanced and they're super fast and the autopilot is fabulous, I mean, all these things he's got going for him, that's all great. But the fit and finish and the car itself does not meet my standards. Maybe that will continue to improve, and maybe I shouldn't be as judgmental as I am, but I'm a car guy. Always have been. And these sorts of things bother me. You know, body panels that aren't the same color as the rest and there's a different shade or there's a body gap difference between one door and the other or the top to the bottom or, or, or. I can go down the list. And the other thing that I just am struggling with when it comes to Tesla is when you get inside the car and all that's there on the dash is one big screen and some vents and nothing else. It just looks cheap to me. You climb in the interior of a Tesla, and it just reminds me of cheap. And yet the cars cost a pretty good penny. You go out and buy a full-bore Model X, for example, you're pushing in the 50s to 60s. If you go buy a full-bore Model S, they're way above that. They're in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, low hundreds. A Model 3, most of those are $40,000 or above. You go look online and see what the different prices are. And I may be off on some of those because I don't know their prices off the back of my hand, but I think I'm fairly close. And some of the Cybertrucks are in the high. They were over $100, but I think they're in the $90s to $100 now. And there are some deals on Tesla right now because sales have softened. That's true for every manufacturer out there, not just Tesla. And they're still making Ebola. The other complaint I have with Tesla, just might as well get it out there while I'm talking about it, A 10-year-old Tesla versus a new one, not much difference, if any. In other words, if you're driving a Tesla that's a 2020, is it any different than a 2025? Not really. That, to me, again, that's another one of those things that drives me crazy. You're buying a brand-new vehicle that looks no different than the one a decade ago. I get some of the updates of late are a little bit different, but all in all, you can't tell what model you're driving. You can't tell by the year. You can't tell the year you're driving, guess what I should say. Again, that to me, as a car person, that bothers me. I get it. Most Tesla drivers, it makes no difference. Most Tesla owners, it makes no difference. Now, I will say I've ridden in some Teslas. I've never driven one, but I've ridden in quite a few of them. And I will say that the way they perform, the way they drive, how quiet they are, a lot of that, no issues. That part of it works well. They're fine. Again, very, very close to the point where I could literally look at one. If they could just get the fit and finish a little bit better than it is now, I think I would potentially look at one. Because, again, I own an EV. I understand its limitations and how it works and all of that, and I'm okay with all of that. For what I do with them, they work fine. And I'm one that I've got other transportation where if I need to go coast to coast, I can. I'm fortunate as far as that goes. I don't own just one car. You guys all know that. So at the end of the day, though, this is a problem for me as a car guy is there's just issues they have to get around when it comes to their fit and finish and their quality. And hopefully they'll hear some of us in the car world and adjust and make advancements in that particular realm. 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I don't have that answer. I don't know. This will be fought in the courts, guaranteed. The minute Governor Polis signs this, it'll be a lawsuit and the process will get started. And yes, I do believe this is one of those, like a lot of other states have done, where it'll go to the Supreme Court and it'll get shot down because it has already in other states. It's far too intrusive. And it takes away Second Amendment rights, period. And despite what those on the left would say, it's not going to do anything to prevent gun violence. I'll quote some of the Democrats down at the Statehouse. The gun violence prevention legislation answers the call to action from our neighbors and will save lives. No, Representative Meg Froelich, it won't. She's from Inglewood, by the way. No, Meg, it's not. And the reason it won't is criminals don't abide by the law anyways. And before some of you on the left come out and say, well, John, that's a weak answer. No, actually, that's a very good answer. The simple word criminal, it's interesting that they even use this. The simple word criminal in and of itself means they're breaking the law. So how would a gun law of any kind keep that individual from buying guns and doing the things that they do with them? We know that semi-automatic weapons become especially deadly when they're paired with high-capacity magazines. Again, that's not totally true. We've talked about this many times in the past. There's many different weapons out there that can have a high capacity, by the way, depending upon how they're actually fed. They don't have to have an interchangeable magazine to be high capacity. This is, again, gun ignorance on the part of the left. I'll just say it like it is. It's total ignorance on the left. They don't even understand how guns work. They're going after the big, bad, black rifles, the AR-15s, or so they would call them, assault rifles, things like that. That's really what they're going after. Although this particular bill, and if it is signed into law, it affects a lot more than just that weapon. And I'll get into some of that here in a moment because most of you have been following this and probably already know, but maybe some don't. There was a law, by the way, passed in 2013 that prohibit high-capacity magazines. It's unenforceable. It doesn't work. The reality is there's still a lot of them in the quote-unquote marketplace. There's already a lot of quote-unquote magazines. And I hate the word assault weapon because a hammer can be an assault weapon. There's already a lot of semi-automatic rifles and pistols in the marketplace that are already owned by legitimate gun owners or even non-legitimate gun owners. should say law-abiding gun owners versus non-law-abiding gun owners. The reality is there's already a ton of those in the marketplace. You're not stopping anything with this. This is a really big feel-good measure from the left that at the end of the day will not do anything. We've raised a generation on lockdown drills. One in 15 people have experienced a mass shooting. That's actually not true either. Not true. That figure is sorely, sorely distorted. We're passing this bill today so we can save lives and prevent more Coloradans from having to go through the pain of losing a loved one to senseless gun violence. This bill will do none of that. This law, if it becomes that, will do none of that. Sorry, left. It's not going to. And as much as I value life and I don't want to see anybody killed, murdered, maimed, anything along. I don't see anybody die, period. The reality is this bill, it's in and of itself, it's not going to change anything. It will make it harder for regular law-abiding citizens to actually obtain what they need to protect themselves against others and the government, which is what the Second Amendment is all about, by the way. Opponents of this bill say the measure will cost millions of dollars to local sheriff's offices and Colorado Parks and Wildlife to administer the new requirements. That's true, by the way. That statement is very true. The requirements are they have to complete a hunter education course certified by CPW and within five years of making the purchase, complete a basic firearms safety course. Within five years before making the purchase, complete an extended firearms safety course or complete an extended firearms safety course more than five years before making the purchase and complete a basic firearms safety course within five years before making the purchase. To make this happen, the sheriff's offices would be required to issue firearm safety courses, eligibility cards with requirements for that card, including a completion of fingerprint based criminal history, record check and so on. Governor Jared Polis responded to the bill's forward movement with a statement from his office. Governor Polis appreciates the sponsors working on our administration on amendments to help make Colorado safer while upholding our freedom and Colorado's rich hunting and sporting rights. and shooting culture, and we'll review the final version of the bill. A Colorado governor's office spokesperson says, Governor Polis remains focused on improving public safety, including gun safety, additional funding for law enforcement and safer streets, and tougher penalties against theft of guns. Now, again, doesn't say that he'll sign it. I think he will. Because what he's going to come back and say is, well, we're really not taking anybody's rights away. You just have to do this. You just have to pass this. Now, the only thing that may stop him from signing this is the cost. Is the cost. The state's already running behind when it comes to their budget, trying to figure out what they're going to cut and what they're going to do to make ends meet. This isn't going to help that. Because all of these counties are going to cry foul and say, wait a minute, you're imposing this on us, yet you're not giving us any funding to make this happen. There's no way this can be self-funded. And again, if they make it where it has to be self-funded, in other words, putting erroneous charges on this particular program, therefore making it be self-funded, another reason why it'll get shot down by the Supreme Court. Because you're adding undue burden onto the citizen, taking away their Second Amendment right in doing so, and it'll even fail more miserably than it would right now. So my feeling is he'll probably sign it. Again, I do believe it will get shot down when it's all said and done because it's not constitutional. And all of the work and things that have gone into this, by the way, are going to be for naught because at the end of the day, this is just going to get shot down. And the amount of hoops that folks will now have to jump through, and here's my other prediction, you'll just see people doing other things to get around this law. They will figure out ways around it. People have relatives in other states. They'll get those guns bought there. They'll still end up with the gun that they want. They'll go get it. They'll bring it back. All of these things will happen. And again, at the end of the day, you're not going to stop anything. And I get what I just said is not legal, but it'll still happen. Because when you push people far enough, they'll figure out ways around the rules. Especially when they're arbitrary rules like these that have been set by a bunch of Democrats. that infringe upon your Second Amendment right. So again, at the end of the day, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, all of you lefty legislatures. This isn't going to change anything. So I'll quote another one. As gun violence continues to devastate communities across Colorado, which, by the way, that's not totally true either. It's not like we read about this every single solid day. Yes, there are shootings every day in Colorado. Happens constantly. And this bill is not going to change that. Leadership, I talked about Mayor Johnston during the first hour, that would change things. That would have an impact. But see, it's not because we have government that only cares about certain things and your Second Amendment rights aren't one of them. I, on the way here today, passed three motorcycle cops on I-70 that were doing traffic control on I-70, writing tickets. And I always think to myself when that's going on, what else could those guys be doing? There's not a car being stolen. There's not some domestic violence going on anywhere in town. There's nothing else happening that we should be paying more attention to instead of running three motorcycle cops on I-70 doing traffic control. Speed control. Speed trap, basically. And that's my complaint. And you guys all know my feelings on speed traps and so on. And while I have all respect in the world for the blue, and I get it, these guys are only being told, you know, these particular officers are only being told what to go do by those that are in charge of them. This is most likely not what they really want to be doing. There's other things that they could be doing instead. Now, some of them probably do enjoy it, but I think that's a minority. Most of them do it because they're told to. They'd rather be doing something else. But they do this because it's what they have to do, and it's a revenue collection for the city of Denver. Literally, it's a revenue collector. You know, if you're going X over the speed limit, it's a big fine. And they can collect those big fines in those particular areas. You know, somebody being in the HOV lane going 80 in a 55, that's a huge fine. Huge. In fact, there's lots of points associated with that as well. So my complaint is... you want to stop gun violence and some of the other things that are going on, then change the system. Don't change, you know, don't pass a law that's penalizing law-abiding gun owners. Because that's what you're doing in this particular situation. They go on to say, when semi-automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines get into the wrong hands, it presents a major threat to the health and safety of our communities. And this bill, by the way, is not going to change that. This law won't change. If this becomes law, it won't change that. This is the misconception that folks on the left has. Oh, if we pass a law, it will end it. No, it won't. We already have a law against murdering someone else. There's already laws on the books for the very same things they're trying to protect the citizens of. Criminals don't care. They don't care. 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Back to Rush to Reason. And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, you're next. Go ahead.
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John, I haven't had a chance to read the bill, but I'm sure you know the answer to this question. Now, you are correct that you can't drive to another state. You personally buy a pistol from a gun dealer and take possession of it. It would have to be shipped. But that doesn't apply to long guns like AR-15s. You can legally drive to Cheyenne, buy an AR-15 with a 30-round magazine. and take possession of it on the spot in the store in Cheyenne.
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Correct.
SPEAKER 19 :
So what mechanism is in the bill to prevent bad guys from doing that?
SPEAKER 15 :
None. Joe, there's no mechanism to keep them from going to downtown Denver on the street and finding somebody that just acquired one, stole one, did whatever, buy it out of the back of a truck. Nothing keeps that from happening. Zero. Zilch.
SPEAKER 19 :
John, you're not telling me that they're so stupid that they don't have a mechanism to prevent bad guys and evil people from driving up to Cheyenne. and buying one of these banned weapons. You're not trying to tell me that, are you?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, they do not, Joe.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, my goodness. Talk about stupid pieces of legislation that can be evaded.
SPEAKER 15 :
Joe, this one can be, and again, as I said earlier, yes, it's against the law, but if you had a relative, let's say, for example, living in Nebraska or Kansas or New Mexico or any other place, and you decided that, hey, you know what, can you pick me up this particular gun and these particular magazines, and oh, by the way, I need several boxes of ammo, And, you know what, I'll just come by one day and, you know, we'll get a family get-together and I'll stop in and grab them and I'll pay you then. And, you know what, nothing keeps that from happening, Joe.
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Well, John, and that's only necessary if we're talking about pistols. If it's long guns, there's nothing at all preventing you personally from legally, well, under federal law, from legally walking into that out-of-state gun store. And buying an AR-15, you know, filling out the form yourself and taking possession of it.
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That's right.
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And driving home.
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And driving home. Now, bringing it back to the state, you broke the law, but it is perfectly legal for you to drive to Kansas, buy a long gun. and walk out of the store with it in Kansas or Wyoming.
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Correct. And I had several different people texting in on, you know, even the whole, you know, high-capacity magazine thing and all of that. You know, the way around all of that is just, Joe, it's so easy, it's ridiculous.
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Go up to, you know, go up to, so as you know, John, most semi-automatic, full-size semi-automatic pistols come with a 17, 19, 20-round mag. And you can still drive up to Cheyenne, take a 90-minute drive to Cheyenne. And hanging on a rack, if you want a 20-round Glock mag, go buy half a dozen and come home. You don't even need an ID. You don't even need a library card.
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And the reality of that, too, Joe, that most people don't understand, including these Democrats, is none of those are traceable in, I guess, if you really wanted to get down to it and you could figure out through the manufacturer when the actual date stamp was and so on. But the reality is, Joe, none of that's ever going to happen. You could drag those things back here and say, oh, yeah, I bought those six months ago. No one would know the difference, Joe.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely, gentlemen, 100 percent correct. And a lot of mags don't even have that.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, Joe, here's the other thing the Dems don't understand. Law enforcement doesn't even care about what I just said. They have got such bigger fish to fry. That is non-issue to them.
SPEAKER 19 :
They do. And this is part of a larger – I think many of them know that this will never pass a legal challenge, but it's called lawfare. They are trying to bankrupt the groups.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, that's right.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's all this is. And that's a stated – we're trying to bankrupt them with these – and we're trying to make them spend all of their contributions.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think the only thing they're not understanding in this particular one is there's enough folks running around in Colorado, folks like myself, that'll give, you know, $100, $200, whatever it is to the cause, that, yeah, they're not going to bankrupt them over this particular one. It might in some other situations, but not this one.
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Right, and there's one more coming, John. You know how these things... Bloomberg and every town in the USA is behind these. They have a boilerplate, and if it passes in one state... They'll do it again. They just send legislators here... The boilerplate with the fill-in-the-blank, fill-in-the-name of your state.
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That's right.
SPEAKER 19 :
California has passed this, and their argument was that the magazine is not part of the firearm. It's an accessory. It's a mere accessory. Now, this is the same state. You're familiar with what's called a magazine disconnect, right, that the gun can't fire. So California, many years ago, passed a law that required any pistol sold in the state must have a magazine disconnect feature, meaning if you drop the magazine, even if there's a bullet in the chamber, the gun won't fire if the magazine isn't inserted. Well, so they made the magazine an essential integral part of the pistol, and here they are in court arguing that the magazine is not an essential integral part of the gun. It's a mere accessory. That's why we, the state of California, have the right to ban it, because it's not a firearm, it's a mere accessory, yet you made it an integral part of the gun.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right. Joe, I'll leave it at that. I've got one more call. I appreciate you very much. Ben, go ahead. I'll give you a couple minutes. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I just had three comments. One, the Politburo, if they quit allowing so much crime and allowed the police to do their job, they'd probably get more people locked up and nip a lot of crime in the bud correct and then uh secondly you know on this tesla thing i'm not that i i've said on your show before i'm not a big fan but i'm against it's like the protest for me would be just don't buy the car you don't have to burn anything that's right don't buy it anymore trade it off if you own one trade it off yeah and then thirdly you know off the topic i just heard that cummins came up with a new inline gas engine cylinder yes and i'm thinking i i'd like to see how they run but uh they've got like huge torque yes and relatively making it very much like a diesel only running on gasoline yeah and i was wondering how they did that did they do like uh stroke over bore, bore over stroke, I'm guessing, and high compression. Very high compression.
SPEAKER 15 :
I have not looked at the specs, but, yeah, that's essentially what they're doing, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and, you know, I was looking at diesels, but the maintenance is so high. Oh, this will be a game changer.
SPEAKER 15 :
If this ends up working like they claim, Ben, this is a game changer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'm thinking there's going to be a lot of guys running around with one-ton trucks or whatever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
And when the engine goes bad or isn't worth fixing, they're going to drop that thing in. And by the way, the electric car, I think overall is healthy because it forces developments of internal combustion.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, I agree.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think to be more efficient, get better mileage because they kind of rest on their laurels. A lot of these cars, they're running around getting 26 miles per gallon or whatever. And you could get that. out of a small block in the 70s.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, if you did it right. That's right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Nope, you're right. Ben, I've got to run, but no, you are right. By the way, I appreciate the phone call. We can talk more about this even in the last hour. I'll have time. I've got one guest, so we'll have more time. Real quick, Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning. Find them at klzradio.com.
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All right. Happy Tuesday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Just myself today. Normally Andy is with me, but he's off enjoying some time away, which I appreciate all that Andy does. Andy, if you're listening, thank you and enjoy your time away. Question of the day yesterday, what is the name of the closest star to Earth after the sun? It is the Proxima Centauri. And it comprises the closest set of stars, even if their light does take over four years to reach us. So, in other words, it's close, but not that close. In fact, it's not close at all. Today's impossible question. And again, you can answer these on our Facebook page. What is the rarest naturally occurring element on Earth? What is the rarest naturally occurring element on Earth? That is today's question of the day. Today, I've got all sorts of things to cover. I, frankly, am not going to spend a lot of time. I know there's a lot of hubbub going around the particular signal conversation that happened from, you know, Hegseth and Walsh and others. And, you know, the guy from The Atlantic, one of the reporters from The Atlantic, was inadvertently put onto the chat. Or was he? And that's the question that I have. And, again, I'm not going to spend much time talking about it. There's a lot of folks out there that want to see folks resign or be punished over it and so on. And I'm sorry. Maybe this is wrong to say. But we were talking about – they were talking about a strategy in how to defeat the hooties. Honestly, folks – I don't even consider that war talk. This is how do you how do you swat the mosquito that's on your arm off? And let's talk about the strategy to do so. The Democrats, of course, are making a lot to do about nothing along these lines. And it's why I won't spend much time talking about my talk about it a little bit on the. On the National Crawford Roundtable, we might discuss that ever so slightly. Maybe Bob and Neil have a different take on it. But for me personally, not really enough there worth talking about. I could have talked about it even some yesterday because it came out in enough time. I could have mentioned it on the show yesterday. But frankly, again, I just look at it as a lot to do about nothing. And not trying to minimize any people group, but... The hooties, literally, it's like a mosquito to the United States of America. In fact, I don't know why we haven't taken care of those knuckleheads a long time ago. I mean, they're really more just a pain in the rear than they are anything else. I mean, are they really any threat to anyone? Maybe to some other countries they might be, but to us, no. And I kind of wonder, just the only thing I'm going to throw out, and I'll say this on the roundtable, is, you know, was... This particular person from the Atlantic included in the conversation just so he would maybe inadvertently, which they knew it wouldn't be inadvertently, but where he would actually comment on or make known our actual thoughts on Europe and what's happening there. In other words, they could say things indirectly to Europe and those countries that are there, Versus coming right out and having an actual direct conversation. So you have to wonder, was it really a mistake that happened? Or had this been done purposely to, again, let some information out that might not otherwise work? come out and there's even conversation over, you know, is J.D. Vance on the same team and is he looking at this the correct way and so on. Folks, there's always different conversations and opinions that happen inside of any kind of an organization. Those of you listening that have any kind of a close relationship with either your kids or your spouse or your business partner or whatever it might be, you can have the same mission in life and want to do the same things but have a direct relationship or how should I say this, have a direct disagreement in how to accomplish said goal. Happens all the time, by the way. Even two people that love one another more than life itself, people that are married, kids, et cetera, like I just said, people literally that would give their life for one another can still disagree greatly on how to accomplish X, Y, Z, or whether to even accomplish it or not. And just because there's a disagreement among two people doesn't mean that they are not for one another and they're not all going in the same direction and so on. People can have disagreements over things all the time. And by the way, that's healthy. If all that Trump was surrounded with was a bunch of yes men, I would be more worried about that than actually reading some of the comments that J.D. said in this particular string of text messages that were going around these particular individuals. So that's my comment on it. I wasn't going to spend much more time than that on it. To me, it's a lot to do about nothing. You're getting the left, you know, they're all in an uproar. And remind everybody that I also wonder at times, I said this last week in relation to other things that happen at times from this particular administration, is this also a huge distraction purposely set to get the left all wound up while Trump, Doge, and others go after the things they really want to go after. All the while, this hand over here is saying one thing, and they're over there on the other side doing something completely different, but everybody's focus is over on the other side, sort of like a magician. The way they get by with all of their tricks is sleight of hand and where your eye is actually looking at and what you're really focused on. Meanwhile, over here, where you're not really paying attention, they're actually making the trick happen. So you wonder at times, is this partly what Donald Trump and the strategy is, where they will periodically release some of these sorts of things or do some of these things that really get the left riled up, get them all in a fervor, which they are right now, all bent out of shape. While they're doing something else somewhere else. And I don't know, folks, I don't have any end to this particular administration. I have no idea what their thought process is, what this outcome really was supposed to be when it was all said and done. So point being, is it something I personally. Am worried about? No, not at all. I've got some other things that we'll talk about here as soon as I come back that might be more alarming. But what happened in that particular signal string of messages is not one of them. Dr. Scott Falkner. Oh, really quick, too. Before you before the left runs around and talks about how that's all unsecure texting and things going back and forth. That's not true. That's not true. Signal was set up initially to be one of the first encryption messaging systems out there. Talked about this years and years ago before even some of the other ones existed, Signal did. And they encrypted things to whereby they could not be intercepted and decoded and so on. So, no, it's about as secure as it gets. The question is, why was this other party involved? involved in this particular conversation, and we may never know the actual full answer of that. Dr. Scott coming up next, and he is a great doctor that thinks exactly like we do. We talk about that a lot, but I mean that sincerely. Call Scott today, 303-663-6990.
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Now back to John Rush. All right. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody texted also and say, do I and my wife ever disagree? Yeah, just like any other married couple would. There are, you know, differences of opinions on all sorts of things. From, in my world, business strategies and different things I may be doing along those lines and how all that looks in the end to you name it. So, yes, there's all sorts of disagreements that can come up. And what I would say, and I've said this many times and I'll keep saying this, if you ever get into a relationship, Where the other party always agrees with you. In other words, there's never a challenge, never a disagreement, never an argument. Something's wrong. Something's wrong. Because no two people on this earth. can agree upon that many things and never, ever, ever have any kind of a disagreement or an argument. It's just not possible. Now, you can minimize those, and most people do, and most good relationships do. But in the end... Yeah, people are going to disagree, and especially I think those that even are closer to one another may even have more disagreements than otherwise just because you're close to one another and there can be differences of opinions on all sorts of things that may come up. Okay, U.S. Intelligence Report. I wanted to read some of the highlights from this, and I'm not going to go through all of it, but I'm going to read some highlights. And there are some things in here, and again, this is just an intelligence report. Is anything in here going to come to fruition? No idea. These are just that, reports. And these will come out periodically based upon information that is collected, and then they take that information, they dissect it, they... They look at what should we release to the public and what should we not. Some things the public, I'll be the first to say, shouldn't know about because it probably would freak some people out. There's other things that are very safe to share. So let me read you a few things coming out of the latest intelligence report. It says China. presents the most comprehensive and robust military threat to U.S. national security. And I'm going to stop there because, yes, I would agree with that. Although, I want to throw this in because it doesn't necessarily say this in this report, they have their own problems. Economically speaking, they have their own problems. The one thing that they do have going for them that works militarily speaking is... They don't have the same amount of regulations and hoops to jump through when it comes time to build something. So in other words, when they decide to build a new whatever, ship, submarine, whatever it happens to be, can they fast track that and get that built much faster than we can? Yes, they can. to their credit, they can do that much faster. Now, does it have the same capabilities and things that ours would? And is it apples to apples? Typically not. Keep in mind, they steal a lot of our intelligence that is used in those particular areas, which does come back then to bite us. China's dominance in critical material mining and processing is a particular threat. U.S. Annual Threat Assessment Report. So that's where that one came from. Now, I think, by the way, this current administration, Donald Trump himself, understands all of that, both parts of that, including the mineral end of things. It's why he's pretty set on opening up things here in the U.S. We have certain minerals here that we could definitely be mining. Do we have everything China has? No. But could we make a big dent in it? Yes, we could. On the same token, we have resources they don't have, things that we have a one-up on them, if you would. Oil, gas, coal, some of those things, for example. So reality is we have things they don't have, and yes, they have some rare earth metals that we don't have. But we have access to and have ability to work around that, and I think to Trump's credit, he's doing that. China seeks to displace the United States as the world's most influential artificial intelligence power by 2030. U.S. intelligence says China in 2025 is likely to apply stronger coercive pressure against Taiwan. And U.S. intelligence says China is advancing military capabilities for a cross-strait campaign. And I don't think there's any secrets there. And I'm going to go back to the artificial intelligence ends of things. Do I think... that they will be successful in taking the lead on AI by 2030. No. No, they won't. Now, some might disagree with me, but here's why I say that. And maybe some of this is just coming from the automotive background and what I've seen China do in regards to a lot of things, including how they build cars and so on. China, because of its structure... Doesn't invent anything. Never has. I doubt it ever will. Can it reinvent things that it steals from others like us? Yes. And in fact, they do very well at that. They can take something and make it better. Now, some would say, well, that's exactly what they've done with AI. Yes, but keep in mind, AI is going to continue to progress. That's why we need really good, solid people at the helm to make sure that we keep certain things with us that don't make it other places. The only reason they've got the up that they do right now AI-wise is because what they built their AI off of was open source. They really, again, they didn't have to invent anything. They built it off the backs of others, which is what China does. You can even look at their warships, submarines, and so on. Where did most of that technology come from? Us. And I'm not trying to be racist here and ditz them individually. It's just their structure, their country structure, their politics squash innovation. We talk about that all the time. It's why outside of the United States, hardly anything is ever invented. There's been some great medical advancements that have come out of places like Israel. Canada's had a few advancements and some things like that. You know, even countries that aren't as free as us will still have some advancement. But none, none like what China or North Korea, you know, they have nothing compared to what we have and they never will. There's no incentive to. So anyways, I want to make sure that I commented on that, because do I feel like they're going to be any kind of a threat to our AI? No, frankly, folks, I don't. And I don't care what any expert says. They're wrong. They're wrong. Now, this whole issue with Taiwan and so on, will China flex its muscles in regards to that? They absolutely will. That one, I think, is a given. They also say that China is likely to increase economic pressure on Taiwan. It sees Taiwan taking steps towards formal independence. A U.S. report says war on Ukraine has afforded Russia wealth of lessons about Western weapons and intelligence. So that's the other thing and reason why this war needs to end sooner than later is keep in mind every single time that there's a war like this and this stuff goes on, the enemy learns about us. Not only are they fighting Ukraine, but they're learning about us at the same time, because who do you think is supplying Ukraine with the majority of things they're fighting against Russia? Us. Everything from the type of ammunition we're using to the bombs that we're launching to the drones to you name it. Russia is learning a lot about us and our capabilities. Frankly, it should scare Russia a little bit, but to their credit, they will take some of that and they will go through that and they will learn backwards, make it backwards compatible, and apply those things as needed. So the U.S. also says that China remains most active in persistent cyber threat to the U.S. China's aggressive efforts to assert sovereignty claims in the South and East China sees heightens tensions that could trigger broader conflict. That one I would not disagree with. The Russia-Ukraine war perpetuates strategic risks to the United States of unintended escalation, potential use of nuclear weapons. Intelligence report says that, and Russia will be unable to achieve total victory but retains momentum in the Ukraine war. That's a U.S. report. Now, there's also something else that's interesting, and that is that China and Russia are eyeing Greenland. for natural resources, and I kind of added my own comment to that, basically saying maybe Donald Trump's not so dumb after all trying to get a foothold in Greenland. Evidently, he knows something that, frankly, the rest of the world, and especially the left, doesn't know. The other thing in this report that I thought was interesting is talking about how Russia has now really getting close to having a satellite that can carry nuclear weapons, which would be a game changer if that, in fact, does happen so there are some things in this report that i think are worth noting and paying attention to is there anything in this report i would lose sleep over no i'm not the kind of guy to lose sleep over much of anything especially when it comes to these things because all of what i just talked about is beyond my control anyways all i can do is take care of what i can do in my area of life in the world and the rest of it will fall into place And just be vigilant. 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All right, we are back and again. Happy Tuesday. Appreciate you all joining us today. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Paul Winfrey joining us now. Dr. Paul, welcome. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you doing? I'm doing very well. President and CEO of the Economic Policy Innovation Center. Talk to us about the Maha movement, Make America Healthy Again, and how that ties into food stamps and things that Americans can buy.
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Well, I think one of the things that the Maha movement has realized is that there are a bunch of behaviors that have been encouraged in society for a long period of time that that have ultimately made Americans less healthy. And those are re-fortified through government programs like food stamps and ultimately Medicaid, which ensures more and more people today than it did 10 years ago, in part because of the large expansions that were made during Obamacare and that were accelerated during COVID. The pandemic now got about 100 million people who were on the Medicaid program. And so ultimately, one of the things that the Trump administration is looking to do and the Congress is looking to do is to improve people's health by getting control of some of these programs and ultimately getting the right incentives in line.
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Talk to us about, because this is something that, frankly, I am not super familiar with. I have been self-employed the majority of my adult life and have worked super hard, and one of the goals I always had was, I guess my dad instilled to me, was make sure you can feed your family, put a roof over your head, do the things necessary, and I don't ever want to be on government welfare, and knock on wood, I never have been. So when it comes to some of the benefits that go out, I'll be straight up honest with you, I can't... don't have any idea what is even allowed to be purchased, not purchased. Dr. Paul, that is one of those areas where I'm about as clueless as it gets.
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Yeah, well, so one of the big controversies right now that's actually dividing some people on the right is limitations that folks are talking about putting in place over sugary beverages that can be purchased with food stamp benefits. So, you know, one of the things that folks who are food stamp participants can can do right now with their welfare benefits is to buy sodas and other sugary beverages that we know contribute to things like diabetes and other long-term health challenges. And what others are pushing for, including this HHS, is a limitation on that. But there's sort of a larger issue at play here, and that is that every time there's a crisis, whether or not it's the 2008-2009 financial crisis, or the pandemic, the left has used those opportunities to expand welfare, to make more and more people eligible to these programs. And one of the huge expansions that we saw during the pandemic was this thing called categorical eligibility, which didn't just expand food stamps, but also expanded free school lunches to really wealthy areas, making more and more people eligible for welfare benefits, and ultimately dependent on the federal government.
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In other words, people that could be sending their kids with lunch or buying lunch or doing whatever they need to do, they're now on my tax dollars and yours, essentially a part of the dole, I guess you could say.
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That's right. So I live in Fairfax County, which is a very wealthy suburb of Washington, D.C. I think it's one of the highest per capita incomes in the country. And prior to the pandemic, the school lunches and breakfasts were heavily subsidized by the federal government and the state. But today, in many of the schools in Fairfax County, everybody receives free school lunches, even if The parents are incredibly wealthy. And, you know, I mean, you know, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think that welfare in this country should be. reserved for the people who are truly vulnerable and not widely distributed.
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No, you and I feel exactly the same way. I think there needs to be caps on a lot of these things. Now, I get it. There are some that are really down and out that struggle, but that's where we have got disability and other things that can come into play. And I'm not talking about those particular individuals, Dr. Paul. I'm talking about some of the folks that you're talking about. The reality is there's a lot of able-bodied people that – by the way, I have known and talked to personally – But because of what you and I are talking about, Section 8 housing and other benefits they get, at the end of the day, there's no incentive to change their behavior because the reality is they can work less and make more with you and I participating than they would be doing it on their own.
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That's right. And all of the federal involvement also is increasing inflation, right? Because every time you're dumping money in federal subsidies into programs, it's just driving up the price for those things.
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You are 100% correct. Okay, so I am one where I believe, A, go back to the Clinton years, if you would. I think we should have a cap on some of these things, how long you can actually be on assistance. I think we should cap even the types of things that can be purchased on assistance. I'm assuming, though, that some of the ideas I just threw out there would probably be fought heavily by a particular political party because I then would be, quote-unquote, discriminating against these individuals by not allowing them to buy whatever they want.
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That's exactly right. Right. And I mean, like one of the big things that's being debated right now in Washington, D.C., is work requirements, strengthening the work requirements for the food stamp program and adding work requirements to the Medicaid program, which is health insurance for low income people that received a huge expansion in 2014 with with Obamacare. You know, these are issues that back in the middle of the 90s were were bipartisan. Everybody believed that. That if you were able-bodied, you didn't have kids, you needed to be working as long as you were between the ages of 19 and retirement age. Now, it's just not the case. It doesn't only divide on party lines. But you even hear some people within the right saying, you know, we shouldn't be imposing overly burdenous requirements on states to implement these work requirements. I don't see it that way.
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By the way, I call BS on that because the reality is if you continue to incentivize bad behavior, that's what you get. Am I correct?
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I think that is exactly what you get, and we should expect this.
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Yeah, and I raised plenty of kids, and I've been self-employed, and I've trained workers, I coach other businesses, and so on. And what I teach everybody that I know, especially my clients, is if you continue to reward bad behavior from anyone, kids or employees, the reality, Dr. Paul, is that's what you're going to receive. And the reality is we have got an entire now section of society now that because of the things that you're mentioning, we have now created this bad behavior that is, I'll just be straight up honest, it is going to be hard to wean them off of.
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That's exactly right. And, you know, like take the Medicaid program in particular. The federal government reimburses states 50 cents on every dollar that they spend on Medicaid for the disabled, for pregnant women, and for single moms with kids. For adults who are able-bodied, non-elderly, without dependents, they don't have kids, The federal government subsidizes $0.90 for every dollar that they spend, which means that states have an incentive because they get more money for that able-bodied without children population. They have an incentive to expand into those areas. So all the incentives in the welfare system are completely backward. We really need a more work-focused welfare system that, you know, like I said, quite frankly, was bipartisan that Clinton supported back in the 90s. We need to get back to that.
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All right. So I'm like results. I'm kind of a results-oriented individual, as you could imagine. What's the fix? You know, how do we—and I get it. There's two sides to the equation here. You've got to get everybody to, quote-unquote, come together to try to get things, you know, handled. But— I know that's really, really difficult. So what's the answer? How do we move the football forward?
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Well, I think in terms of food stamps or nutrition assistance, we shouldn't be making the problem worse, right? So we shouldn't be encouraging people to use federal assistance to consume things that ultimately make them less healthy. We've got to cut that off. But for the able-bodied population without dependents who are working age, It needs to be time limited. They need to be working or they need to be off of assistance. And I mean working. There are all these things that are baked into the current system where if you just are perpetually in job training programs but don't actually have a job, then you can continue to receive benefits. Right now, if you talk to people who are in the business community, especially small businesses, We still, even several years after the pandemic, have a job market where there are a lot of openings, and we need to make sure that that population is working.
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You are talking to somebody that talks to those individuals, and I'm self-employed, so I experienced some of that as well. So, no, I can reiterate what you just said full well, and you would think by now that would not be the case, but it still is.
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That's that's exactly right. That's exactly right. You know, and during the Biden years, you know, we saw illegal immigration, you know, fill some of these holes. But with Trump, the Trump administration closing off the border, you know, and illegal immigration being cut down, I think, you know, we're going to see some job openings ultimately go up. It's going to increase wages, going to make that make those jobs look even more attractive to to to U.S. citizens. and so we need a welfare program, again, to support that transition into the job market.
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I agree. Dr. Paul, how do folks find you and what's going on with your organization, the Economic Policy Innovation Center?
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They can find me on X, at Paul Winfrey, W-I-N-F-R-E-E, and they can also find us on the Internet at www.epicforamerica.org.
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Awesome. Dr. Paul, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. You bet. Have a great night. And, yeah, we need a lot of changes in that particular realm. And, yes, I know you're going to have to step into this. In other words, stair-step into it. You can't make changes all at once. And time will tell what we can actually get done. But to Dr. Paul's point a moment ago, with the amount of job openings, things that are out there, the opportunity right now, I believe, is there to make some significant changes along these lines of the government cheese. You guys all know what I mean by that. There's a way to change that, and we should be looking at that, and hopefully Doge and others in this administration are doing so because far too many people, far too many people are on government dole that shouldn't be, that are able-bodied, able to work, able to fend for themselves, and they frankly should be. Golden Eagle Financial, speaking of finances and where we're headed, what you're doing, how are you getting to retirement, and so on. Talk to Al Smith today, Golden Eagle Financial. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody asked a moment ago on the text line as well that all these guests that I get is more of a question. And I've talked about this before, but you may have missed that, which is fine. I can talk about it again. And somebody was just asking for maybe some of the inside baseball of how do I and other shows get a lot of the guests that we get. And the way that works is there are, you know, publicists, booking agents, if you would. It depends on what you're looking for. And there's different types of agencies that represent different type of individuals. Some represent those that are trying to enlarge their speaking, public speaking skills. End of things. Others are agents for authors and people that are trying to promote books. Some are agents that are just trying to promote different types of organizations, nonprofits, things like that. And all of these agents work on a per diem basis. In other words, they get a certain amount of money to do these different things and represent these individuals and so on. And in turn, they reach out to shows like ours here. And we'll send in requests for, I've got this particular guest. They can talk about this particular topic. Is that something that you would like to have them on for? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And some of them I've got really, really great relationships with. Some of these publishing companies or publicists, I should say, I've got really, really great relationships with. And sometimes, not often, sometimes I will reach out to them and say, hey, on this particular topic, do you have anybody that can speak to this? For example... Charlie and I, for over a year plus now, have been trying to find somebody that, and I know this sounds really out there, but we want somebody that can come on air on Health and Wellness Wednesday and talk about dreams. What do they mean? Where do they come from? What part of the brain? All these different things. It's something I'm intrigued with, something Charlie's intrigued with. So I've actually discussed this among some of my publicists and some of those folks that handle this and have said, hey, if you ever run across somebody along those lines, send them our way. I've got folks, by the way, that specialize in the health and wellness end of things. That's where a lot of those guests come from and so on. But it's this weird array of people. of companies it's a whole nother subset of businesses if you would where they go around and they help different people become more exposed more popular if you would and it's a part of how that particular end of things works now some people i just know one-on-one they may have been on in the past and i don't even use a publicist we just have them on richard battle is one of those types of individuals we just have had them for so long that he just shows up on wednesdays we have him as a routine and i like richard because he and I talk about leadership stuff, which I think is really, really, really important. But yeah, a lot of these folks that you hear that are on different radio, TV, and so on, they have got people that they have connected with, in some cases hired, to actually put them in those particular venues. And In our case, and this is by no means to boast because I don't know what other shows end up receiving, but I'll get anywhere from 25 to 50 plus of those daily people wanting to come on the program, come on air and talk about the various things that they may have ability to talk about. Now, as you guys all know, I don't take that many. There are a lot of, you know, either no's or I just file those away. Or in some cases, I just, I hate to say this, I just delete the email and it goes off and I have no interest in that particular person. Some of them can get pretty persistent. And some of them will even reach out and say, hey, you know, I'm trying to get so-and-so, so-and-so on your program. I know it would be a great fit. You know, what do you think? And sometimes I have to just literally, you know, email back and just say, you know, not a great fit, not a great fit this week. Get back to me X amount of time, things along those lines. Again, I'm very much in charge of what we do here and want to be. And if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. Now, this is an interesting story because I don't do this very often. I can tell you in 10 years, I can count on one hand where I've actually done this. We had a guest on yesterday. And I'd have to go back and even look at my notes, and Charlie might remember this guest better than I can probably go back and look at it. But this particular person, it was Rob Roselli yesterday. He was supposed to talk about the JFK truth issue. And the report that came out and so on. And I don't normally do this because I'm usually pretty nice. That was one of the worst interviews I think I've had in a very, very, very, very long time. He was absolutely worthless as an interview. And I'm saying that kindly. And I don't often report back on to how good or bad an interview went. That one I did. And I basically said, don't send me him ever again. He's not worth having on air. I'm not doing this again. Sorry. You should even rethink who you're representing, because if he does the same thing to me, if he does the same thing to everybody else that he did to me, that was a worthless interview. And I don't do that very often. I'm usually pretty kind, and even people will reach out and ask how the interview went and so on. And I'm usually very upfront and very kind, and typically they go very well. We rarely have a dud. You're going to get one occasionally. We do pretty well, because I research typically who these people are. Oh, we had one guy one time. Charlie and I were interviewing a guy. I think it was a Health and Wellness Wednesday guest. And we're rolling along, and everything's going pretty well, and I'm like, yeah, okay, I get where this guy's going. And all of a sudden, the whole nanobot thing comes up, and I'm just like, oh, jeez, this guy just went off the rails. Literally just went off the rails. And sometimes when that happens... All I can do is sort of be nice, kind of agree, yet maybe disagree. And you handle that as best you can. And you just sort of, you know, slowly say bye bye and off they go. And no, they're not invited back because they can get way out there. And again, doesn't happen very often. We are actually, in my opinion, very, very fortunate and lucky. And maybe that's just because of some of the research I do on some of these individuals before I have them on and some of the relationships that we have with some of these booking agents. But at the end of the day, we're really fortunate. Most of the people we get are really, really strong. I also will say this, and I've said this before. I really do look for those young people. Because I really feel like young people, of course, are our future. I'd like to hear from them. I want to hear those different perspectives. I don't want to just hear from old guys all the time. I do want to hear from the young people as to what they think. It's why I have Sonny Kutcher and others like her on on a routine basis, because I want to hear from those young people. And of late, we've had some really great young people that have joined us. And I'm always encouraged by them because it's really great to hear young people that think the way we do, knowing that, OK. Our world isn't in such bad shape after all, and if we can get some of these people online and on board and get them really involved, which they are, okay, we're going to be okay at the end of the day. So it's always a joy to me when we've got young people that are willing to come on. And by the way, some of them of late. Adrian Gray, I was just thinking, Charlie, a moment ago, she's been joining us now kind of on a semi-weekly basis. And I tell you what, holy cow, is she well-spoken for being in her mid-20s or so is all. She is extremely, extremely well-spoken, does a fabulous job. And those are the kind of individuals, young people, that I will do my very best to help them continue to get ahead by having us be one of their outlets that they can then talk to others about being on air and hopefully gain more, you know, more interviews if you would on down the road and yes i will do whatever i can to help them but yeah whoever it whoever emailed or texted me that on the text line that's how that works a little inside baseball but you know i'm there's no secrets there that's just how that end of it works and if you're somebody out there and you've written a book or there's some way that you know something you've done where you want to be more you know more known in what that particular thing is Go interview some of these different publicists and folks that can help you get some of these things done. And it's a whole other world of how things work. And that's how those people end up on a lot of the different venues that they end up on. It's through those particular organizations. And it's a business all in and of itself. So, yeah. There you go. Paul Lueger coming up next, my insurance agent. He would love to help you with all of your insurance needs, whatever they are. He's a broker now. He works for all the different companies that are out there. Call Paul today, 303-662-0789.
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All right. Welcome back. And again, thanks for letting me sort of, you know, meander around there and talk about how things, you know, work structurally speaking with the show. Also, somebody sent me a article and I have not had a chance to look this up. There was a stabbing. That just happened, I believe, in front of the Capitol, Colfax and Broadway, that literally at that last segment as we were talking, somebody texted me that and gave me that info. I'll do my best here at the top of the hour to look that up and potentially come back and talk about that. But, yeah, that's something that I did not... I did not see. And this particular texter was saying, this is just happening. Denver is a mess. Yes, it is. That's what happens when you have really poor leadership, which we have no leadership in the city of Denver right now. Mike Johnston is a complete joke. If that guy goes on to do anything else, politically speaking, that just shows you how stupid voters are. This guy, I mean, I thought... I thought we had seen it all with some of the previous Denver mayors. And I really, really thought, you know, Hancock, I didn't like at all. But I will tell you what, can we have him back? Can we have him back? I mean that sincerely. I didn't think I'd ever, ever say that. But he's way better, way better than Johnston. And I never thought I'd say that, literally. I mean, I right now, honestly, would take Mayor Hancock back in a heartbeat. And not that I'm a Denver resident or anything along those lines, but oh, my word, what a laughingstock we have become as a city nationwide because of some of the things Mike Johnston has done. And I thought Mike might be a little bit better than Mayor Hancock. And, oh, boy, was I wrong. He has been an absolute still is an absolute utter disaster when it comes to the things that he does in running the city of Denver and literally making. Because keep in mind, everybody that's outside of Denver, you may say, oh, that's just Denver. Who cares? Well, you know, the rest of the nation, like any other area around the country, they look at the capital as what goes on in the rest of the state. I know that's not true. But that's the perception around the country is what goes on in Denver is happening all around Colorado. That's why it does matter what Mayor Johnston actually does at the end of the day. That's our one. We'll be back for our two. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Join Mike Gallagher as he sheds light on Hyundai's substantial investment in America, creating thousands of jobs and changing economic landscapes. Meanwhile, the political arena is rife with debates over major mishaps and communication blunders. Mike examines the realistic approach to dealing with errors and the media's role in shaping public perception. Tune in for a smart mix of politics, philanthropy with 'Food for the Poor', and light-hearted humor with The Buc-ee's Experience.
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He's the happy conservative wart. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
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No, I don't. Yes, I do. No, I don't. Yes, I do. Here we go. Welcome in. It's Tuesday. Getting a little bit of a late document and a little behind-the-scenes activity as we ramp up for today's show. I guess we're a little bit like the Signal Chatroom text group or whatever the heck it was. What do you do when your team stumbles? I saw... a post from Banshee that was so pitch perfect about all the drama and all the hysteria and all the hyper-partisan or maybe non-partisan responses to this big news that the White House apparently mistakenly shared Yemen war plans with the editor of The Atlantic. The Atlantic hates Trump. The Atlantic is left. Jeffrey Goldberg, the guy invited to the chat on Signal, which is some, I guess, data-sharing app, he is making the rounds, saying, look, I was surprised. I was... And it was a big breach. I mean, there's no question. It was a mistake. It was a stumble. Now, their side is going to say, stop the presses. Trump himself needs to resign over this. It's over. It's over. Pete Buttigieg. unloaded an expletive-laden rant. For some reason, these Democrats think if you use the F word a lot, you sound cool and hip and aggravated. I mean, I think Pete Buttigieg is pretty measured. And he's slinging around the F. Bob, this is an effing disgrace. Okay, fine. Here's what Banshee wrote that I think sums it up perfectly, and I'm going to open up the phone lines to you. 800-655-MIKE. Banshee said, one of the most mind-numbing parts of politics is the inability of anyone on any side to ever admit a mistake. Instead, you get dumb qualifiers, obfuscations, and non-denial denials. No one is going to remember this signal thing in two days. Just own it and move on. I think that's pitch perfect. I agree with that 110%. How about you? No one's going to know. I mean, no one's going to be talking about this after the media. I mean, they'll try. They're going to continue to regurgitate it for days, maybe weeks. But it is going to blow over. Thankfully, nothing was compromised in the mission. And incidentally, that's a big part of this. But of course, it shouldn't have happened. Obviously, it was a mistake. You don't want to inadvertently invite the editor of The Atlantic into a chat room or a text group talking about bombing the Houthis. And incidentally, is it Houthi or Houthis? Because I was talking to Mark Davis this morning. I noticed he kept saying Houthis. I think it's Houthis. I don't know. And I don't care. Because there was a lot of transparency, frankly, that was revealed over Hegseth's concerns and how are we going to do this. But none of that's going to matter. All they want is a scalp. All they want is a head over the mantle. They want a trophy. They want Mike Waltz to go. They want Pete Hegseth to go. All they want to do is disrupt. And look, I'm going to be very consistent here. You've got to let them. Let them have their fun. Let them have their day. It was a mistake. Own the mistake, and let's move on. I trust, and the word is that Trump has no intention of firing Mike Walsh. Mike Walsh has already said he's not going anywhere. I don't think President Trump is going to fire anybody in his administration because the mainstream media says so. I don't see that happening at all. But, you know, we'll let it play out and let the game come to us. I'll do what I always do when there's a big story like this, and I don't dispute that it's a big story. And incidentally, trying to ignore it won't make it go away. I noticed they tried to ignore it yesterday on The Five, which I thought was really, really comical. Poor Jessica was the only one who kind of got her licks in and said, I better never hear about Hillary's emails again. Okay. Again, let them have their day. Let them have their response, and we'll move on. Like Banshee said, no one's going to remember this in two days.
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Mike Gallagher.
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All right, what is the president's reaction to this story that the media is in a complete meltdown over? They are in a feeding frenzy, as expected. There's a lot of news to digest, and I promise we're going to tackle a lot of the other things we have to be about today, including some information about... Mahmoud Khalil, turns out he hid some of his ties to Unraw on his green card application. Uh-oh, that won't be good for him. We'll dive into that. But first, let's bring you to the newsroom. Mike Gallagher Show newsman Roger P. Shulman reporting on President Trump's reaction moments ago to NBC over Mike Waltz and this whole secure thing, you know, this chat room thing.
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I mean, Roger, have you ever been on Signal before? Never even heard of it until now, so I'm behind the loop, I guess. Us boomers, I mean, we don't know.
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We're all trying to learn all this technology. The only thing I know about signal is when I pull up to an intersection and it goes from red to green. But it appears that President Trump, as indicated to NBC moments ago, is standing by his man, Mike Waltz.
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Yes, and you mentioned during the last half hour this is going to be a two-day story, and probably tomorrow we'll be talking about something else. He is standing by him because there's no harm, no foul. The attack went off that was released to the Atlantic magazine perfectly. There was no resistance, no problems at all, and he says they've learned from this, and he's learned a lesson, and he's a good man, and he is not going to be removed or anything else. We have so many Ways of getting secret information to the wrong places. We've got emails, we've got texts, we've got all these things that we didn't have before. And it's so easy to to have something like this happen. It used to be that secret information was in file cabinets that were locked and handled by certain people. Now, with everything shooting out over the Internet, it's very difficult to keep a secret. And this was a major screw up. No, no doubt about that. This is something that should not have happened. But since there was no loss of life on our side about it and everything went off fine, I think Mr. Trump is right. is backing his people and wants to move on to bigger and better things.
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I'm really curious about the journalistic aspect of this in terms of... And let me ask you, because you've been covering news for decades, and I've been listening to you about the new Howard Franklin Bridge that opened up this morning, and that's a big story. But you've covered state, local, national stories for many, many years. Are you on... let me word this delicately. You know everything there is to know about Florida. I mean, you're my go-to for everything. In the legislature, I mean, between you and Bill Bunkley, I mean, there's nothing we don't know about what's happening out of Tallahassee. Let me ask you about your relationship with public figures. I mean, you obviously have a good relationship with a number of newsmakers. Would you find it unusual if Mike Waltz had sort of a working relationship with a Trump-hating editor like this guy from The Atlantic? Or is that just part of doing business and you keep open all lines of communications? Do you have contact with maybe progressive or lawmakers who might not share your own personal ideology? Yes.
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Absolutely. You keep all lines of communications open. I was just communicating with somebody who is a very you could call them a disagreeable person who has nothing to do with our corporate policy or our philosophies. But we keep the lines of communications open in a civil manner just to just to know what's going on and then keep an eye on things. And Being a patriot and a former military person, if I received some top secret information from somebody, even if I didn't like them, I probably would take steps. But that's just me because of my military background. I was in the Army for five years and am a patriot. perhaps even before being a reporter in some cases. I am not going to do anything that's going to harm this country or put our military at risk. That's my philosophy.
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So with that in mind, do you find fault with Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic revealing some of the details of this chat room or this group text? Was that a road you might not pursue?
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I might not pursue it, depending on the situation.
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If it's after the fact, I probably would go with it. But if it's before the fact, before military operations, absolutely not.
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Right. And for the record, he did this after the fact. So, you know, look, I don't read The Atlantic. I'm not a fan of, I'm sure, Jeffrey Goldberg. But you don't fault him. He got notified to be invited on this text. This group chat? And he did what any journalist, frankly, left or right, would do.
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After the fact, yes. After the fact, yes. But if you're jeopardizing American lives, not a good idea in my opinion. That's my opinion.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
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What do you do when the team that you're rooting for makes a mistake? The media calls them out. They make it an epic bombshell when you know it really isn't all that. How do you react? What's the right way to react? President Trump is not planning to fire National Security Advisor Mike Waltz in the wake of the Atlantic's reporting of an apparent, well, what is being called a national security breach. Sources initially said that Waltz's job was safe. He's not on the chopping block. President Trump himself told NBC in a brief interview minutes ago that Waltz will not be fired. If you haven't followed it, if you haven't had the misfortune of stumbling across MSNBC or CNN or the New York Times or the Washington Post, it's a stunning, breathless, epic failure. These guys are hacks. Pete Buttigieg embraced the apparent strategy of today's Democrats. just throw around the F-bomb a lot. Former Transportation Secretary using the F-word to post his apparent disdain for what took place. What took place? Well, apparently the White House, the team, mistakenly shared information plans for attacking the Houthis in Yemen with the editor of The Atlantic. If you were going to pick the last person, there's a lot of irony to all this, if you were going to pick the last person you'd probably leak this to, it would be him. Now, a lot of people are saying, well, maybe it's perfect, it's genius, this was the plan, it was all part of the plan. I'm not sure that dog... I don't know that that explanation flies. I like what Banshee said on social media. Banshee is a social media influencer, writer over at Red State. Banshee wrote, one of the most mind-numbing parts of politics is the inability of anyone on any side to ever admit a mistake. Instead, you get dumb qualifiers, obfuscations, and non-denial denials. No one, Banshee argues, is going to remember this signal story in two days. Just own it. Move on. The story will die. It will deflate if the White House says, yeah, it happened, it shouldn't have happened, it's been dealt with. And I believe that's the strategy and that's the approach that the White House is about to take. But let's not give the media weeks of distracting intrigue so that they can devour this story over and over and over again. You've got some huge stories that are going to take over, including Mahmoud Khalil's being accused of hiding key information during his green card process. You know, I watched CBS Sunday Morning, and they did this fawning love letter to Khalil and his family. They interviewed his pregnant wife, and look, it's a sympathetic story. The wife is pregnant. He gets taken away after leading all these protests at Columbia University. But now there's some really intriguing information coming out about His ties to this organization, UNRWA, which has deep terrorist ties. Incidentally, here was President Trump's reaction. He apparently, look, I can promise you that there are plenty of people in hot water over this signal leak to Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic. Here was apparently President Trump first hearing about this controversy yesterday from a reporter.
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Mr. President, your reaction to the story of The Atlantic that said that some of your top cabinet officials and aides had been discussing very sensitive material through Signal and included an Atlantic reporter for that. What is your response to that?
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I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of The Atlantic. To me, it's a magazine that's going out of business. I think it's not much of a magazine, but I know nothing about it. You're saying that they had what?
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They were using signal to coordinate on sensitive materials. Having to do with what?
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Having to do with what? What were they talking about? With the Houthis. The Houthis? You mean the attack on the Houthis? Well, it couldn't have been very effective because the attack was very effective, I can tell you that. I don't know anything about it. You're telling me about it for the first time.
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So that was the first he learned about it, apparently, and that's not going to go over very well. The boss, I'm sure, isn't very happy. And this happens. You move fast, things are going to get broken. Mistakes are going to get made. And it was a mistake. It was a blunder. Shouldn't have happened. And I can guarantee you it's never going to happen again. And ultimately, nothing about the airstrike in Yemen was effective. was affected. Nothing was impacted. Here was Senator Josh Hawley responding to it on Fox News last night.
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We don't know how much of this is accurate or not, but it looks like even if everything that Atlantic reported is true, it's the president's advisors discussing among themselves options they might recommend to the president. And nobody can deny the success of what the president is doing here, which is what Pete Higgseth just underscored. And this is what the leftist media is reduced to. They can't argue with the policies which the American people support. They can't argue with This new demonstration of American strength that is keeping Americans safe at home and abroad. And so now we're griping about who's on a text message and who's not. I mean, come on.
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And that was, of course, reduced to, oh, Senator Hawley says. The only gripe is who's on a text message. Well, of course, it's bigger than that. And he said more than that. He's taken out of context to some degree. But ultimately, it was a mistake. It was a blunder. It was a stumble. Shouldn't have happened. Okay. Own it. Acknowledge it. Yeah. It shouldn't have happened. It's been dealt with. What's next? What's next? And there's a lot of next coming down the pike. 800-655-MIKE. Look, this is not, of course, the end of the world. And I don't think anybody's going to get fired over this. But for us to push back and come up with theories that it was intentional or maybe it was deliberate or maybe it was... I mean, going down that conspiracy theory rabbit hole probably doesn't serve us well. I truly believe that Banshee's take on this from Red State is perfect. Own the mistake. It happened. It shouldn't have happened. It's been dealt with. Move on. Do you disagree? Let's find out. I want to throw up our phone lines wide open to you here in the Relief Factor studios for a Tuesday. We've got a lot of breaking news. I've also got a great event coming up in a couple of weeks I want to share with you. I'm going to be in Savannah, Georgia, hosting the Job Creators Network event. annual gala it's a second annual gala and i got to do this last year and it's become kind of a tradition you have a chance to join us as well we'll catch up with alfredo ortiz from job creators network get an update on that event and more in the meantime i want you to join us i mean give me your take maybe i'm all wet on this you agree with me 800-655-MIKE own the mistake when you make a mistake own it don't come up with obfuscations or dumb qualifiers Hey, made a mistake? Time to move on. Am I wrong? 800-655-MIKE. One call does it all. Call or text us on the MyPillow text line or voice front and center on the Mike Gallagher Show, 800-655-6453.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Gellerman.
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Welcome in. There's some drama on Capitol Hill. The Senate Intelligence Committee is having a field day with Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard and Radcliffe. This was always scheduled, which of course leads everybody to think, boy, that seems real convenient, the timing of The Atlantic's revelation that the editor of The Atlantic was accidentally invited into a group text chat over the Signal app regarding bombing the Houthis in Yemen. I visited with my buddy Mark Davis this morning, and he and I both had pretty much the same takeaway. When a mistake is made, you own it. You say it's going to be dealt with. It won't happen again. As for whether or not Mike Waltz is going to be out, Nope. President Trump said he's standing by his guy. The president made it clear that nobody is going to be fired over this because nothing went wrong. The mission went on without any problem. But it was a mistake. And, you know... We make the mistake, we make the flaw, we are all inclined because we're so tribal and we want to defend our side and they want to defend their side and we all go on the attack. And instead of just owning a mistake... We try to come up with obfuscation and, oh, maybe this is a conspiracy. Maybe it was done on purpose. It's not that bad. What about Hillary and the servers? Look, when you move fast, things get broke. This Trump administration is moving at breakneck speed. But what is very clear is the Democrats are desperately trying to dig themselves out of a deep, dark hole. That was the theme of an article we shared with you yesterday from Axios. Top Democrats say their party is in its deepest hole in nearly 50 years and they fear things could actually get worse. With the lowest favorability ever, no emerging voice, who's going to lead the Democrats out of the wilderness? One of my producers, Christian, just told me that among some of the gems that came out of the mouth of Jasmine Crockett, the congresswoman from North Texas, is that she mocked Governor Greg Abbott in a wheelchair. And I didn't believe it. I mean, I said that's not even possible. She's not going to sink that low. She can't be that vicious. And a lot of Democrats seem to like this lady's style. Do we have that clip? You know, again, Christian said, well, I'll play it for you. And I said, there's no way. There's no way she's making fun of a wheelchair-bound governor. As you might know, Governor Greg Abbott, the terrific governor of Texas, was injured as a young man by a falling tree and is paralyzed. Now, I happen to have... a friend and a colleague who is now facing paralysis. And my heart just aches for anybody who is in a physically limiting condition. I can't even begin to fathom making fun of a political opponent because of their Physical condition. Normal people don't think that way. But as you're about to see and hear, Jasmine Crockett is anything but normal.
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Because we in these hot-ass Texas streets, honey. Y'all know we got Governor Hot Wheels down there. Come on now. And the only thing... Turn it off.
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I don't want to hear it. Governor Hot Wheels. She thinks that's cute to mock Governor Abbott. And she's thrilled that the Tesla stock, she thinks, has fallen. Although what I saw yesterday is they can't keep Teslas on the shelves. People are lining up to buy Teslas. President Trump bought one last week. Sean Hannity bought one. He said six or seven of his friends bought one. Imagine a United States congresswoman rooting against an American company because they don't like the team that the company's owner is on. Here's Jasmine Crockett.
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I'm excited to see that Elon Musk, that his money as it relates to Tesla, well, Tesla's tanking right now. And I'm okay with that.
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They think, and I'm glad she kind of connected the dots there so I can get into the brain of a leftist lunatic like Jasmine Crockett. They think they're personally hurting Elon Musk if they can tank the Tesla company itself. That somehow a guy who's worth... How many billions and billions and billions of dollars? If one of his companies goes under, they feel satisfaction at that because they want to hurt him financially. I don't want to sound like they do and be mean-spirited or vicious here, but it doesn't exactly take a Rhodes Scholar to recognize that when you're rooting against an American company with thousands and thousands of American employees, Elon Musk, if Tesla went away tomorrow, he'd be just fine. You know who wouldn't be? The hardworking... tax-paying Tesla employee, the service providers, the technicians, the people who work on the front lines, on Tesla dealers all over the country. You know, there's a line that the cruelty is the point. Jasmine Crockett is a cruel person. petty, vicious, vindictive lady. And I hope Jeanine Pirro is right that Jasmine Crockett is the one to watch. I hope the Democrats think she's the solution. Because if she's the solution and the Democrat, that brand of leadership takes over, oh boy, this country's gone. This country is gone. 800-655-MIKE. 14 past the hour. Welcome aboard. We've got a lot to cover here on this breaking news Tuesday. And I'm going to take you to Capitol Hill. We're going to listen in to some of the testimony. Tulsi Gabbard made it very clear to the hysteric Democrat senators that no classified information was revealed or leaked in that group text over Signal that accidentally invited the editor of The Atlantic to participate. Banshee is right. Great advice on this whole drama. And it's a mind-numbing part of politics. It's one of the ugliest parts of politics. It's the inability of anyone on either side to admit a mistake. Instead, you get dumb qualifiers, he wrote, obfuscations, and non-denial denials. No one's going to remember this story. Nobody's going to remember the Signal thing in two days. Own it and move on. The story will die sooner and completely be deflated if the White House and the intelligence officials said, yeah, it happened, it shouldn't have happened, it's been dealt with. Let's not give the vicious mainstream media any more... fat to chew on. You disagree? We'll find out. One call does it all. Call or text us on the MyPillow text line, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Welcome in.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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It was a mistake. And there's no reason to get all upset. They're going to be exercised over this as we would be if the shoe was on the other foot. I mean, Jessica Tarloff got her little dig in yesterday on The Five. I love the dynamic of a show like The Five. I do, too. And here's what I love about it. I always am fascinated by what they won't cover. The Five didn't touch this story with a 10-foot pole, and Jessica Tarloff wanted to. So in her first round, you know, they go through rounds, and they do topics, and then They all have rotating hosts. It's kind of an interesting and it's a very successful format, obviously. So Jessica couldn't resist. She's answering some question about, you know, I don't know, college campuses. And then she got into this story. She added it on her own and she said, and I don't ever want to hear another word about Hillary's emails again.
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And seconds later.
SPEAKER 11 :
What do you mean, go?
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Seconds later, Jesse threw down about Hillary's emails.
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Well, of course.
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And properly so, because when Hillary acid washes scrubs as people hammer it on phones, it's on purpose. It is intentional subterfuge. I know. This appears to be a genuine human mistake on the part of an administration that absolutely is going to keep America safer than these jokers ever did. So you've got Hillary and Mayor Pete daring to step forward out of whatever cave he's living in now to go, this is a major F-up. Have a seat, son. I'll let you know what we need from you about national security.
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You're right. But like Banshee said, two days, this thing is over, and we're going to move on. Look, let's be honest here. When you move fast, you break things. And things are getting broken. Mistakes are going to be made. I love the clip, and I'm going to find it. And I mentioned this to you yesterday of Elon in the White House saying, look, we're going to make mistakes. The key is when we do, we got to own it. We got to fix it. You got to know about it. I have to admit, I was a little surprised at Pete Hegseth's reaction.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, he comes on the plane and somebody asks him what's going on when national security issues are being talked about in a way that allows a reporter to be added to the chat by mistake. And he immediately goes into an attack on Jeffrey Goldberg, which, by the way, he's 100 percent right. Jeffrey Goldberg is a weasel. However, the story appears to be true, and maybe his better approach would have been what you've described, is to say, look, okay, if that wasn't great, we'll handle it, and blah, blah, blah. But anyway.
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You want to know what the worst part of this story, way bigger than any supposed threat to national security or whatever, the end of the world and everything. And here's the biggest question. Why is Jeffrey Goldberg on anybody's speed dial in the Trump administration? In other words, it suggests that there's a relationship there, and this is a Trump-hating left publication. So, I mean, you know, that goes back to our often – Do you engage with the other side? Do you talk to reporters?
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Speaking of which, first of all, that was going to be my first answer to your point, is this administration will have a bunch of reporters in their contact list. Being reporters, most of them are going to hate this administration, but there's going to be some communication. Speaking of communication, I know you love your text line and I love mine. On our text line yesterday, right after you and I finished yesterday, somebody had a little something they wanted me to ask you about having communication with the other side. And I had it in front of me, and I'm going to totally mess it up. How is it that Mike Gallagher yesterday gave us the large lecture on on we must connect with the other side and hear them and be open to them and hear their views, which, by the way, is a worthy point to be made.
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Which is, incidentally, a total mischaracterization of what I said. But go ahead. That's not what I said.
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It's the same schizo Mike Gallagher who mere days earlier was headstrong hammering anybody who thought it was a good idea for Gavin Newsom to welcome Charlie Kirk. So help me out, schizo boy.
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Well, it's fair. I mean, look, I was asking, I was pulling a Tucker Carlson yesterday. I was just asking the question. I was just asking the question, should we reach across the aisle? No, I mean, I didn't say, look, I think it's fair to acknowledge the temperature is pretty high right now. And families, you and I have talked about families being torn apart. I hear every day, heartbreaking stories. Little old lady from Long Island yesterday, whose only sister, and they've been best friends for 80 years, has cut her out of her life. And she won't talk to her. It's up to us to persuade the other side. And I get what your point is. And you're right about, look, I guess you're trying to persuade Gavin Newsom maybe not to be who he is. Gavin Newsom wants to run for president. But incidentally, apparently so does Jasmine Crockett. Wow. Can I make a prediction right here, right now? Let me make a prediction. 745 Central Standard Time, Tuesday, March 25th. She's going to go too far. She's going to say something. Well, she already has, but I mean even farther than she's gone. I mean, she's going to really step in at one of these days.
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In terms of, because this is the 30th District, South Dallas County, Member of Congress. The once for the forever Eddie Bernice Johnson seat. And Eddie Bernice looks like Margaret Thatcher compared to this woman. And she's mouthy and she's edgy and she's hard left, which makes her a darling on MSNBC. And she and she's a racist and and a hater and a smear merchant. Lately, though, in a weekend interview on Channel 5, she had this talking about the Colin Allred race against Ted Cruz. And you've got to hit him hard and you've got to aim for the head and. And listen, as much of a fool as she is, I'm going to give her some latitude as I would give anybody for using metaphors in political battle. I'm not so much worried about that. But she did also say, because Saturday is March 29th, right? You know this is the Tesla day of action or the day of outrage or the day of insanity. So I got to tell you, out at Legacy West in Plano, some of my favorite restaurants are along that stretch. There's a Tesla dealership there as well. I'm not going to say don't go. I ain't going. just three hours down the road from where I'm sitting right now, Austin, bombs found at a Tesla dealership. The violent left is on parade. And when people show you what they are, pay attention.
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And please do not debate whether this is domestic terrorism or not, because it certainly is. And I guarantee you, there's a whole lot of people going to be spending a whole lot of time in prison for these violent actions against Tesla.
SPEAKER 12 :
And all the Teslas have cameras. What, it's called sentry mode? Nine cameras. If I walk up in Kia Tesla today, you're going to see me as well as people are seeing me on the Salem News Channel.
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Correct. Oh, it'll be all over. Well, these are not the brightest bulbs in the box, but that brings me back to Jasmine Crockett, because not only is she celebrating the demise of Tesla and urging Texas crews to be, you know, essentially assaulted, she also said something that was really shocking. She gave an interview where she said, I don't care about any legislation. I just want to take down Trump. I mean, this, like you said, when people say who they are, believe them.
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And that's what she said about Tesla, too. Herbert said, all I want on my birthday is to take down Elon. Let's take down Tesla. And I guess she could be talking reputationally or policy-wise, and I do give latitude in certain ways. But when your party is attacking people and people on your side are engaged in a wave of domestic terrorism, you might want to raise your hand.
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You might want to pump the brakes a little, which is kind of what the theme was of the show yesterday. And it was kind of an interesting conversation because I was asking, should we pump the brakes a little bit? Do we make more? Here's what set me off. I had a guy last week call the show, and we mixed it up really big. But I know who he was. He's that troll guy. He's the call guy. You know who he is. He calls shows, and he tapes the reaction from the conservative hosts. Who cares? And he posts it on his ex-account with 13 followers. Mm-hmm. and that's how he gets his jollies. But he wants to really, really argue, and he called the other day, and I think I was kind of... Influence because I knew who he was. He didn't know that I knew who he was. But we have a way here with our phone system to know when someone like that's calling. Because he's real sophisticated. He spoofs phone numbers. He uses different numbers, different names, different parts of the country. It's a whole big thing for him. But when we started arguing, I found myself heating up the conversation. I was interrupting. I was arguing. And I'm like, you know what? And he was making arguments. And we all do that, Mark. I mean, present company included. We all try to shut down the other side too much probably and not listen when somebody's trying to make a point that we disagree with. And I'm wondering if we shouldn't kind of ease up on that approach a little bit, let them vent, let them speak, and try to win them over. You know what it is, Mark, and you and I talked about this. It's the spirit of Charlie Kirk going on to college campuses. Yeah. That's what he does. And he's not in shouting matches with these college kids. He's trying to effectively persuade them that their way is lost, that their progressive instincts are wrong. And he does a powerful job, a masterful job. Look, this guy is a treasure. And so I kind of saw a bunch of those Charlie Kirk videos before the show yesterday, and I was kind of having a good conversation with him. And it was. It was helpful. And I do appreciate the criticism because you're right. I don't want to platform Gavin Newsom. I don't want to make him palatable. Hey, let's end on a positive note. I played a clip on my X account. You can follow me at GallagherShow on X. The Buc-ee's Experience. Oh, I don't know about this. There's a young lady. Have you heard this? I have not. There's a young lady.
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Having just done some Texas Hill Country, we stopped at both the Temple Texas Buc-ee's and the Buc-ee's right by the Texas Motor Speedway on the way home. So I've got a face full of Buc-ee's experiences just in the last couple of days.
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It's the funniest clip, and it's so real. I know we're over time. Can I play it? Do we have a minute and a half, or are we too late?
SPEAKER 12 :
We do not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, we do not. So tomorrow, remind me tomorrow to play for you the Buc-ee's. What are you going to tell me about it? It's her. It's this young woman in a car extolling all the virtues of Buc-ee's in a hysterical way. You do all your Christmas shopping there. There's not just tchotchkes there. You can get bathrobes. All the food groups. All the food groups. You walk it all the hell. Well, of course, she jokes about that, like beef jerky is now a major food group.
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There's a wall of jerky. There's a wall of jerky.
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You go and get a brisket. The bathrooms, she said, are cleaner than most of America's operating rooms. Correct. And the stalls are floor to ceiling. You could go in and file your taxes in a stall. She's right. I mean, oh, I'm going to play. Let's start tomorrow. Can I play this for you tomorrow? You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get it out of the way tomorrow, and off we go. You got it. All right. Happy Tuesday, my friend. Own the mistakes and move on. Two-day news cycle. Precisely right.
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It's not a big deal.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's not a big deal. I love you. I love you.
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That's Mike. He's going to share more love. 10 o'clock, soon as we're done, right here on 660 AM. The answer.
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Listen in as Dana explores the battle between Big Soda and influencers purporting to fight government overreach. This episode features enlightening discussions on libertarian influences on modern conservatism and the peculiar fable involving a man using a finger gun to rob a store. Plus, discover the pharmacist choices beyond Big Pharma, where affordability meets the crucial need for healthcare access.
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Tell them Dana sent you. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley at the top of this third hour. We have Senator Marsha Blackburn who's going to be coming up later on in the program. I had to laugh at this article from Axios, the headline. Behind the curtain, Dems dark deep hole. It's talking about their popularity rating. It's like the worst. They have the lowest favorability ever. Ever. Ever. In the history, I don't even know how it's lower now than it was after FDR did internment camps. I don't know how it's low. I mean, were they not measuring the party's approval back then? I can't imagine it being lower than when they were against, you know, women voting or when they didn't want slavery to be criminalized. Like I just didn't, you know. No, it's now. The party has its lowest favorability ever, says Axios. This is bolstered by a couple of new surveys out, including a CNN one. I know we hate them. Democrat Party's favorability drops to a record low. OK, we got all that. They have Axios notes. There are no popular national leaders to help improve it. They have insufficient numbers to stop most legislation in Congress. Now, to that point, Republicans have insufficient numbers really to get anything done. They say durable minority on the Supreme Court dwindling influence over the media ecosystem with right leaning podcasters and social media accounts ascendant. OK, I got to stop for a moment there. They literally got the I send this word too much today. They got the government involved to actually suppress free speech on social media platforms. Yours truly was one of those targeted. They absolutely did. They absolutely did. They said young voters are growing dramatically more conservative. I told you that was going to happen. Now, 2026, they say it doesn't look great for them for Senate. It looks better for them for the House. They said that there are only three House Republicans in districts. Former VP Harris won in 24. There's not going to be a Democrat surge, but they could definitely even it out in the House. They said that Democrats may suffer another blow in the 2030 census. If the current population patterns hold, they said the party could lose as many as a dozen seats in the House and electorally. Sorry, I got a smile on that one because that's I like that. I mean, who doesn't like that? So they're they're having a bad time, you could say. They've done numerous comprehensive surveys from numerous Democrat pollsters and they. have what Axios says captured vividly and empirically the daunting data. And they add for those skeptical of polls and sampling size, for instance, David Shore, who conducted one such survey, his is based on 26 million online responses collected over just last year alone. And it is filtered to adjust any redundancies or oddities of modern polling. He is estimating a 23-point swing against Democrats amongst immigrants, particularly Hispanic Americans. Democrat support amongst that community has dropped by over 50%. Told you, natural allies. The rise of conservatism amongst young people, particularly men, And they said that millennials were the most progressive. Gen Z. This makes my heart sing. Gen Z is about to become the most conservative. I have chills saying this. Do you know why Gen Z is? Because Gen X is saving the universe is why. Because Gen X is raising Gen Z. You can't have Gen X parents and be anything but. Come on. Oh my gosh, it's amazing. All of us deserve to have that chiseled on our tombstone as an epitaph, by the way. Save the universe, Gen X. Young people particularly. I think this is something worth exploring over the months to come. The conservatism of Gen Z. Because they're a very interesting generation. They're natural cynics. From my experience, just with my own, my kids are different because my kids, what I do and all that, although we've kept them out of it. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Anheuser-Busch announced that they're ending their sponsorship of St. Louis's Pride Fest. Isn't it like the biggest, whatever, one of the big ones? They're not doing their annual Alphabet Festival Pride Fest. This is after 30 years of partnership. They said that, I guess it's $150,000 that they gave to it every year. I wonder if that's because all the Bud Light stuff or if it's just because people are, they're broke. I don't know. I'm just wondering. Yeah, I'm just, I'm like curious. I find that kind of interesting. Let's see. The FDA approved lab-grown blood vessel. They've approved this despite some warnings. The agency okayed an artificial vessel to restore blood flow in patients even though its own scientists are flagging the questionable study results and they're saying those are some potentially fatal ruptures. Yeah, I don't think this is something that I would do. I don't think so. A man allegedly robbed a store with a finger gun. You know, Colorado Springs, the PD there said they arrested a dude because he allegedly used a finger gun to rob a store. They said when they got there, the suspect, Antonio Taylor, had a finger gun pointed at the clerk and began to take items. They know it's not going to fire, right? Like, what is that? They were able to take him into custody. They took his teenage daughter too and put her in protective care. But now he's in the pokey. He's got his mugshot all out there ready to rock. Very interesting stuff. And let's see. Oh, I can't. Oh, segues. They're recalling all these scooters. I wonder if one of mine, if mine is one of the ones that are getting recalled. Things could be so easy right now. They're going to be made more difficult by our own side. I mean, this is all like stuff like this. Can we talk about Big Soda for a moment? Jeez, I can't even believe this is a thing. So there was a thing over the weekend. Influenceable, a company apparently accused of cutting big checks to influencers on behalf of Big Soda. Is there not a big anything? There was a big supermarket. Big Soda now. And some of them, apparently, of course, there are tons of people that are paid. I can tell you who's being paid and who's not. Like right now, if you said, Dana, the world depends on you naming everybody who's getting a check, I could definitely give you a list of names. Some of them, many of them are on cable news. Nobody discloses that they're paid for this stuff. I don't care if people get paid to advocate. Just be honest about it, right? So, like, for instance, there's one account that said, oh, the government wants to block soda purchases for Americans on Snap. Remember when New York tried this and it backfired? Trump probably had a Diet Coke button in the Oval Office. It's ridiculous government overreach. Let people decide for themselves. Can I just point out the idiocy of saying something like this? You're talking about a big government program and big government involvement funded by the taxpayer. And then you're daring to call any limitation on it government overreach. You are the left right now. All of these so-called conservative accounts that I've seen make this argument. You are literally the left. You're the people bitching and moaning about cutting waste and abuse from with Doge because you're mad over. How about this? Try some conservatism on for size and ask WTF. Do we need snap for more government? If you had things, again, by the state and people helping people and we had lower taxes and a lot better fiscal policy, guess what? You probably wouldn't need all this stuff. But I love the people who are like, oh, well, this big government program, you know, people should be able to spend taxpayer dollars on whatever they want. That's what I hear. And apparently they're getting paid like they're saying, oh, it's a new war on snow on soda. Targeting purchases made through snap. It's not the government's role to decide what people should or shouldn't eat. Why do we have? It's a government program. It is a big taxpayer funded government program. Newsflash to you fake ass conservatives out there where my tax dollars go. So do my two cents. If you're getting my tax dollars, I'm going to tell you what to do with them. Be conservative for once. Stop cosplaying as it. Be consistent. Jiminy. I mean, I've got so many different, there's a lot of big accounts. A couple of them are my friends. And they all say similar things. Like, oh, they want to restrict soda purchases through SNAP. This is an unwanted attempt by the government to dictate what Americans can and can't buy on a giant government program. How many brain cells do some of you people have? Dear heavens. Where's the consistency? It's a big government program. You're saying that it's government overreach to restrict how a big government program operates? And you want to call yourself a Republican or a conservative? Get out. Get out. It's the same thing as the people who are mad over Doge's recommended cuts. But to that point, Cain, why aren't we getting bought off? Big Cab, I am for sale. Big Gin... Here I am. I wake up every morning and start my day with some big gin. I don't know. I mean, I'll sell it. Whatever. Come on. I'll tell you I am. I mean, not like, you know, in your face, but there'll be signs.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, where's Big Probiotic when I need it?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, Kane was one. Well, I think it's between us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, not you. Shh. Go look over there. Meet the radio people. Between us, Kane's already being paid by Big Probiotics. That is awesome. And big hate old people.
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You are lying right now.
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, I got, I'm like all for being, I'll be paid by Big Cab.
SPEAKER 03 :
Big Cab.
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Big Cabernet. Right? Man. Oh, man, I'm telling you. I'm just thinking of, yeah, there's some good.
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Big Kombucha.
SPEAKER 02 :
Big Kombucha?
SPEAKER 03 :
Big Kombucha.
SPEAKER 02 :
What about Big Sour Patch Kids?
SPEAKER 03 :
Dude, Big Snacks. Yeah, there it is.
SPEAKER 02 :
I will totally be paid by Big Snacks. I'm just saying. Who runs Big Snacks? I don't know. Maybe the same people who run Big Soda? I just think I don't know, like apparently. So there was a text that went out. Nick Sartor. I don't know who he is totally, but I follow him. He has some good stuff. He said influencers were texted by people telling them to help push back against government overreach and they'd be paid between several hundred and thousand dollars for each post. And that's why everything kind of sounds similar. Apparently there was like a big thing. So it's like they said lobbying firms. I didn't even know. What is this? Hang on. Oh, Cart Choice. That's a lobbying firm. Ameribeth. The big beverage. Okay, so that's the non-alcoholic refreshment. But I don't care about a Mirabelle because they're a non-alcoholic beverage. I don't care about you. Go away. I want Big Gin, Big Cab, Big Moonshine, Kane. Dude. Big Moonshine. I am for sale. I'll just let you know. Like, are people... You do have to be aware of this stuff. And I think it's pretty obvious. Yes. When I see people who I can, you know, you can kind of tell. People are smart. You would get paid $1,000 to post about a big probiotic, wouldn't you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Just to put out there my own personal experience. So it'd be easy. Easy $1,000. Yeah.
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Could you provide some color about the nature of the threat these illegal immigrants have posed, not just to Arkansas, but our nation, perhaps including some of the details of the horrific offenses they've committed against the American people?
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Mr. Vice. Witness will suspend. Stop funding Israel. Stop funding Israel. Stop funding Israel. Stop funding Israel.
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So that protester was a code pink lunatic. saying the greatest threat to world peace is funding Israel. I will observe, for the benefit of the audience here on television, that Code Pink is funded by communist China as well, which simply illustrates, speak up now if you want to be removed as well, whoever's saying that.
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If anyone else would like to join them, speak now please so we don't have any more disruptions.
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As I was saying, the fact that Communist China funds Code Pink, which interrupts a hearing like this about Israel, simply illustrate Director Gabbard's point that China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and other American adversaries are working in concert to a greater degree than they ever have before. Could you provide some color?
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I'm just already tired of this. I'm already tired of it. I've been watching this all morning. And it's this ongoing hearing with, who is it? All the principals that were on that messaging system and, well, Ratcliffe. I would say not the guy that we assumed that they were all trying to connect to, not that individual. I don't know. Who's the guy? Jameson Greer was the guy that they thought may have been the person that they were going to add to this. So that story broke when we were on air yesterday, like literally in the middle of the program. And I told you guys then, I thought, you know, this is kind of a serious issue, but I wanted to wait and see what... else came out of it you know what what more is there to come out of it and now we know a lot more today and it does i mean look it was a mistake we're going to talk about it but i'm just i'm so tired of everybody complaining about it i'm so tired of all of these like pretend nat sec people gag me just gag me to hell with it already can i have republicans stop being such female copulatory organs with a capital p wow yeah there's more of that would you like more Tired of it.
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Slow it down a little.
SPEAKER 21 :
No, we're not slowing anything down, Cain. We're on the Willy Wonka boat to the river of hell. That's where we're at. Yay! So, welcome to whatever the hell this is. Channel 347, DirecTV. When Rumble figures like it's working, then we have a chat there. If not, I don't know what to tell you. So, why are you laughing? You know, I've listened to this. Who is the guy? Well, they're all old. I was going to say, who's the old guy? Well, hell, they're all old.
SPEAKER 15 :
Doesn't narrow it down.
SPEAKER 21 :
It doesn't help me. It really doesn't help me at all. It doesn't help. It's going on live now.
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I mean, we can tap into it for a little bit.
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No, no, no. There's one rancid old fart that I really he was a Democrat, not Bill Bennett either. I'm trying to remember which one. He's the guy who's going on and on about climate change. And I was already I was already mad. And then he is like climate change. I don't give a rat's ass if a tornado of fire eats everyone's soul and spits us out into the upside down world. Climate change is a made-up propaganda element. It's weather.
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I don't care. That was Senator Angus King of Maine.
SPEAKER 21 :
Was he the guy who was going on and on about the climate change?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
Because you had... Who is he talking to? Not Tulsi. Was it Tulsi Gabbard?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, it was Tulsi.
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It was Tulsi Gabbard. He sat there. Now, I'm waiting for juice, right? Like, I'm waiting for some big crumbs. Not like the little crumbly bread stuff. I'm waiting for chunks of meat on the floor, right? I'm waiting for, like, some real good stuff. And this old withered fart... decides to go in about weather. And he decides to start talking about climate change. I know we don't have that exchange. I really don't think we should play it because I'm going to get mad and then I'm going to talk about it for a whole hour. And you guys are going to want to just crucify me when it's done. And I'm not worthy to die like our Lord and Savior. So just anyway. So he went in about climate change. He started going on and on about climate change. And saying that why wasn't because they prepare a security threat assessment. I'm going to get into the other stuff. They say they they they prepare a security threat assessment. And in the security threat assessment, they include a whole bunch of stuff. You know, this is what we think is dangerous. This is what now you remember Joe Biden was like, oh, it's what did he what did he say? White supremacists, the climate change, like a wizard army. I don't know. A whole bunch of made up stuff. And it was all made up things like I'm I think that, you know, we shouldn't bring back the mastodon because there's a reason it's dead. And I think that we are too far removed from coexisting to actually maybe remember if it was just like a very angry serial killing machine. We don't know. Example. So anyway, he's got going on and he's like, can you tell me? With his old wrinkly face. He's like, can you tell me why climate change wasn't included in a threat assessment? Can I just say, I've had issues with Tulsi Gabbard with her two-way stuff. I got to give her props for restraint here. I would have leaped over that table and it would have been done. I would have flown over that table like a rabid spider monkey. Nay, I would have gone over that table like an old angry Karen on Black Friday and I'm going to get the last flat screen. That would have been me. flying over that table at this dude no way am i sitting there listening to that why wasn't climate change include on the threat i don't know senator because it's a made-up bs thing maybe that's why senator i can't not do the outburst when there is injustice afoot injustice must be answered right Sometimes not rhetorically speaking, with a fist, I don't know. I have a joke about that. Remind me to tell you on break. It's good. I can't share it with the air people. Maybe I'd make it something special for the subscribers, but it's sort of blue. Anyway, so this whole issue of, well, why didn't you include the climate change? Well, because climate change is a made-up thing, professor. Just like your credentials. So Democrats are having, oh, they're all over this Atlantic story. Jeffrey Goldberg is, I don't know, what do you want me to call him? He's human excrement. He's all these things. I think that SecDef Hegseth, well, first of all, let's play Audio Sunbite 4. Let me start with this. Audio Sunbite 4, this is when SecDef Hegseth, which I like saying, this is when he landed in Hawaii just yesterday. And right as that story broke and they got him on record, listen.
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Can you share how your information about war plans against the Houthis in Yemen was shared with a journalist in the Atlantic? And were those details classified?
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deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again to include the, I don't know, the hoaxes of Russia, Russia, Russia, or the fine people on both sides' hoax, or suckers and losers' hoax.
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We all know he did this. We all know he did this. And I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I don't think SecDef Hegseth is culpable with this. I... Well, he he made that comment after the White House already confirmed. Yeah, it's real. The White House confirmed that it was real. He didn't know that. He just gets off the plane and he's like he's doing what he's supposed to do. I mean, he doesn't. And he's not the one who's talking to Jeffrey Goldberg. Right. The question that I would like asked. And I like Mike Waltz. He's been on my program. He's you know, he left his house seat from Florida. It's one of the reasons why we have such a such a tight majority in Florida. I keep wanting to say Senate in the house because he's he left to serve in the cab, right? Cabinet, not a cabernet, because that's like great. Be great right now. Anyway, I had to listen to this for like an hour, like straight. I mean, it drives anybody nuts. And I say this as C-SPAN is my favorite channel. So he's you don't need to do that. We already know it's real. Somebody should have nudged him a bit and gone. Hey, sect of Hegseth. Yeah, okay. So, it's irrelevant to me, like, how, you know, he's, you know, whether or not Goldberg is a... a propagandist, because he is. He's the guy who went on... What are some of the millions of stories? He's the guy who made up the story about Trump in the cemetery in France, right? The World War II cemetery. He made up that whole story. That was Goldberg, right? I mean, we all know it. I do want to know why he... So I use Signal. It takes from your contacts and finds these people on... So he may have... You would have to also add this individual in. No one else can see their number and you can choose the name by which you want to be identified. And I mean, Waltz could have added a mistakenly and then no one else would have known that it's a weird number or weird individual because you don't get to see that if you're the invitee to the group chat. Does that make sense? Yeah. Now, you might say, but Dana, you're telling me that none of these smart people at any point stopped and go, who is this person in the chat? I've done that before. I've been added to like group discussions and I'm like, hold up. Who TF is you? I mean, I will literally be, who are you? I go to a table for dinner with people and I sit down and I don't know somebody. Who is you? I am super highly paranoid though. I would be great working in Intel because I don't trust anyone, and I think everybody's a terrorist for the most part. So with something like this, if you can't depend upon... Your colleagues and subordinates to do a thing properly. You have way bigger issues than simply mistakenly adding this poo bird into your group chat. You see what I'm saying? You've got way bigger. It's not the word I want, Cain, but it's the word I deserve right now. It's not. It's you have bigger issues than that. Secondly, why are they on signal? I don't know. There's something charming about people who can press buttons and bomb the hell out of people responding to things with emojis. It's just so 2025. You know, can you imagine in the future, like the future humans that are all going to be robots? Because that's what we're turning into. Looking back and being like, look at these adorable meat sacks with their hieroglyphics. And it's all emojis. Like this one, hmm, bomb smiley face fist bump rainbow. I guess they bombed a bunch of gays. And then it's going to be a whole Monty Python retelling of human history. I mean, Cain, how else would you read it? Like fist bump. We bombed the gays. Like I don't.
SPEAKER 16 :
I look at emojis as our hieroglyphics.
SPEAKER 21 :
They are our hieroglyphics. I mean, Egyptians had a frillion of them. I mean, give or take.
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A million years from now, someone's going to look at it and be like.
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I'm saying.
SPEAKER 15 :
Not so sure what this is about.
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Yeah. These people are ridiculous. Why do they love peaches? There's just peaches and plums, peaches and eggplants everywhere. What in the world? They're going to have a lot of questions about us in the future. So, yes, maybe don't do this stuff on Signal. But is there anything... I mean, you're telling me Elon, first buddy, can't whip you up something up there? He can't cook you up a special... You can still use your emojis? I don't know. But I do know one thing, ladies and gentlemen. I sure as hell am not going to take a single... Peep, squeak or sound at all from the party that let 13 people die at Abbey Gate and took off the last plane from the Hamid Karzai International Airport in beautiful Kabul, Afghanistan, where people were falling legit off the wings. The same party that wiped their servers clean. The same party that mishandled actually classified classified information. The same party that prostituted out elected office to make their crackhead son wealthy. I am not going to hear a singular damn thing from that party at all whatsoever on this or pretty much anything else. We have a lot to get to because we need to talk about why in the hell Trump nominated and Obama Biden forced vaccines for your kids, CDC director, instead of a tried and true conservative that hates big pharma and is all maha. Please, someone make this make sense. We're going to talk about that. We got a bunch of other stuff to touch on on this insane Tuesday. God help us all. As we move are the folks who help bring you the program. It's our friends that are over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service out there. Patriot Mobile. Yes, I mean, they think like you and they don't send your money to the things that you vote against and all that good stuff. But good grief. Everybody's broke. Are they affordable? That's all you care about. Yes, they are. They have plans for literally everybody, families of all sizes, businesses of all sizes, singles, dinks, the dual income, no kid people, all of those people. They are something for you. And you get nationwide coverage you can trust, exceptional coverage operating on all three major networks. So you stay connected wherever you go. And they have seamless switching with a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. You're helping to maintain and create more U.S.-based jobs. Keep your current number, your phone, upgrade. It's never been simpler to switch. And right now, you can get a free month of service when you do, only by using promo code Dana. Right now, visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service with promo code Dana only. Only way to unlock it, promo code Dana. Switch to Patriot Mobile today. Defend freedom every time you call or every time you make a text. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana972Patriot.
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Hey, it's another day that ends in Y, and we have another study warning about kids glued to phones are more likely to become high-strung, depressed teens. They're probably going to be communists. Here's a thought. Don't let your phone babysit your kid. We had TVs babysitting kids back in the days, then iPads babysitting kids. Stop letting Doom Scroll be your kid's babysitter. I don't know. Remove head from butt and parent. That way we don't have to have these stupid studies every single day. We know it. And adults, go out and touch some grass. Just get off the phone. Just easy. All right. And I got that out of my system for right now. It'll come back. The world's oldest cat is 30 years old. And I'm pretty sure there's some black magic involved in this. That cat looks like it's 30 years old. That cat has seen some things. That's one tough cat. That cat's seen some stuff. The, uh... It's a... What is this? A tortoise shell moggy? Cat was born in 95. This cat is older than Steve. This cat is literally older than Steve. That cat is Steve's elder. We got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. We have more on the way as we roll towards Florida, man. You don't want to miss. And of course, as we do so, the folks who will bring you the program, it's our friends. It's over at Burn a Gun, the non-firearm firearm. Always good to have options when it comes to your self-defense, right? You want to have options because you can't always take your firearm everywhere. And I tell people, look, I have no problem carrying. I have no problem using lethal force. But there are times, municipal restrictions, private property where I can't. The Burna gun is a great alternative so that you still have some kind of deterrent. You still have some protection. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. And additionally, with that, you have different models. The SD is the most popular model. And it's legal in all 50 states. It doesn't care about gun-free zone signs. It also doesn't care about any other restrictions. No waiting periods. Ships right to your door. No background checks. You can visit... It's byrna.com slash Dana. It's byrna.com slash Dana. And you can see all of the models that they have. They have different accessories. Of course, they have different projectiles, all kinds of stuff. But when you go there and purchase, you get 10% off of your purchase. Byrna.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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Mr. President, your reaction to the story of the Atlantic that said that some of your top cabinet officials and aides had been discussing very sensitive material through Signal and included an Atlantic reporter for that. What is your response to that?
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I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic. To me, it's a magazine that's going out of business. I think it's not much of a magazine, but I know nothing about it. You're saying that they had what? they were using signal to coordinate on sensitive materials and having to do with what having to do with what what were they talking about with the hooties the hooties you mean the attack on the hood yes well it couldn't have been very effective because the attack was very effective i can tell you that i don't know anything about it you're telling me about it for the first time
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Hmm. That's POTUS who's answering a question about that whole signal chat, which is the hot story of the day. And the left is losing their minds over it because it's the left. I mean, do you expect anything else from them? I want to get into some of the nuance of it. And we've got a whole bunch of stuff to hit. But I I think that this is an interesting Rorschach test. The left is super excited to have something that they think they can get POTUS on. And it is they're very excited about this because they think that, oh, my gosh, we finally got him. I am not pointing this out as a way to excuse anything, but I am pointing it out as a way to excuse Democrats from any contribution to this overall discussion. I mean, reminder that this was the same reporter who literally made up a story about Trump and the World War Two cemetery in France. Oh, it's raining. I don't want to go there. And that's literally not at all what happened. And this was that's where it originated. He's the editor in chief of The Atlantic. It came from this guy. And so considering all of the failures of the previous two Democrat administrations, I'm not going to accept lectures from these people about classified or privileged. And I also think and I read I read all these texts. What was it? I mean, the the strike was like two hours after the guy got the signal discussion. It was two hours later, Kane, two hours. Pretty sure that what's already in motion is in motion. And that's kind of it. You're not going to you don't need to worry about anything else with it. I so I think Goldberg also he can't resist not making himself the star of a story. He's one of those types of reporters, you know, the people who aren't content with allowing the story to shine. They want to insert themselves and be central in the storm of drama as much as possible. And so he had this big, oh, well, oh, look at me. I'm not sharing everything. Well, there wasn't apparently that much to share. I think he shared everything possible except for maybe a couple of things and not because it was super sensitive, but that it would give him the appearance of not sharing something sensitive so he could look like he was doing his due diligence as a patriot. But as a journalist, he felt prevailed upon to let you know that they included him in this special signal conversation. And. He knows that they can't really run, go after him or say anything on social media pertaining to the need because it just looks bad on their part. So he's free to just run his mouth. I mean, yeah, you don't trust him. I also understand the criticisms that come from the concerns that people may have about Trump not running a tight ship as it pertains to leaks. I don't care if you love him or hate him. Let's separate someone's love or hate for someone with the absolutely blanking, indisputable fact that the first administration, he had a problem with leakers. A lot of it was people who were trying to I hate this whole thing. Oh, you're a star in politics. Shut up. You're a public servant. If you want to be a rock star, start a band. If you want to be a star, go to Hollywood. D.C. and policy is not the same thing. These people that try to make it like their their film career in D.C. It's weird. I think some, though, were under the thought that that's how it worked. And I think that some people leaked on the previous administration in his first term because they liked the power adjacency that it brought them, the adjacency to influence or the influence that such information could purchase for them. Now, with this, I don't think it's the same thing. I do want to know why somebody had Goldberg in their contacts, because you would have to be in your contacts in order for that to pop up and you include them in your signal discussion. So that is a real thing. Whether or not they discuss things at that level, I think that's something that the security agencies need to determine because their conversations, obviously, a lot more, especially when it concerns strikes and things of that nature, a lot more privileged than you know, me ranting, you know, or you ranting privately with friends. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just very different. So the... Left is calling for scalps. They want Hegseth and Waltz fired. And I think they all need to shut up and sit down. First off, I don't think Hegseth. I don't know why. They just don't like Hegseth. And I think they just want him fired. But as it pertains to Mike Waltz, I don't think that he needs to be fired either. I think that they're going to handle the situation. And you heard Trump speaking to it already. And that's it. And then move on. And I'm not... I'm just not going to hear protestations from Democrats. I mean, you want me to run through the hits, all the stuff that they've done? Are you like up to date with it? I mean, because I'm prepared to do that all of the times that they had to wipe servers, that they shared private information. Or what about the time that you had Millie literally trying to sell us out to the CCP and private phone conversations? I mean, do we want to go back that far? I mean, if Democrats are very, very concerned about privileged information and geopolitical moves, let's talk about how you guys had a general that was talking literally to the CCP. outside of the administration, trying to set up a secondary, surreptitious, not even diplomacy route. We could talk about that all day. Is that not something that abridges the sanctity of confidentiality or privilege? Of course it is. It's a rhetorical question. I'm a thousand percent correct. So spare me, Democrats. You're bitching and moaning about all this stuff. If we want to know how to muck things up to the nth degree, we'll call you. Now. I think that at that point, it is what it is. People are saying, oh, well, he's got to go. I don't think Waltz needs to go. I know that again, I know that there's a lot of discussion about all this law was broken and this law was broke. I think that's great to hear people who don't daily travel in those laws want to see them applied, whether or not it's correctly applied or not. I just I don't think that I don't think it was intentional until I see evidence to the contrary. Mike Waltz is not he's not a neocon and he's not a bad dude. He's not. He's a little he's a Florida conservative. That was his district, the sixth congressional district. He's a good dude. I think people just know that and they want him out. And I want to caution people. You know, I. I think, too. There's always an opportunity that the left is looking for to lean into to cause further division and get people especially to go after good guys. It's a very interesting psyop. I mean, I hear people say, oh, they violated this federal statute and this federal statute and, you know, et cetera, et cetera. And I think the reason why I feel differently about it now, if it was somebody other than Waltz, I might feel a little differently. Do I think that there need to be repercussions? I do. And I think that maybe they need to not be. How do you always double check before you hit send? You always do. I cannot tell you how many times I've received emails from people like Fox News hosts and all kinds of stuff where I was accidentally CC'd and people are talking mega. I don't ever say nothing, but I see it. I'm like, oh, damn, because I have me and two other women in broadcasting. We share the same first name. So it's very interesting. And I do get interesting emails from time to time and some of them are accident. So I'm just saying, you just double check before you send it out, right? You double check before you send this stuff out. Is that a mistake that's worthy of banishment? I'm not gonna let the left decide that. I think that's up for the admin and whether or not you love the admin or hate the admin, that's the admin's decision. And that's, you know, because that's his appointment. You either believe in how the republic is structured or you don't believe it, however convenient it is for you, which then makes me question your consistency as somebody who follows a constitution. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. It's his pick. And only he can make that decision if he wants to change it out. I think there's bigger fish to fry, personally. So an Atlantic reporter got wind two hours before it happened that some Houthis were going to get their asses kicked. Mm-hmm. Dana, you're being very cavalier nonchalant about it. Maybe it's because I don't really trust the criticism coming from the left. Again, you see what these people did. Have you seen the stuff that they've done? Leaking our Social Security numbers out. Leaking out firearm registries or FFLs so that people can harass gun owners and federal firearms licensees. Working with the CCP. General General Milley talking with the CCP behind our backs. And I'm supposed to consider these guys the gold standard of criticism on issues like this? Have a million seats. No, not doing it. I think there's bigger frist to fry. I think this story goes away in less than a week. I don't think that there's been any serious damage done. I think a lot of it is the weeping and gnashing of teeth of irrelevant going out of work legacy press members. The same people who turned a blind eye to every other transgression that was done under the Obama and the Biden administrations. Every other transgression. The same government that tried to censor us for asking questions about a non-existent fake vaccine. I had my work deleted off the internet at the request of the government, working with social media, trying to shut people up from asking questions about the government clot shot. I am not taking one ounce of criticism from these people. They are not the standard measure. And I am very bluntly telling Republicans and conservatives to disregard them too. Now that being said, we have our own set of standards. Are we going to be consistent where it concerns the CDC nominee? That's one of the things we've got to talk about here coming up. Because POTUS had a pick. You know, we got the as of right now, we still got the CDC. He's got a CDC nominee. He's got a pick and it hasn't gone real well for a lot of these. Well, it was real bad under the Biden administration. I mean, we all remember that there were two people that were being considered. One of them was the Florida Surgeon General, Dr. Latipo, who I've met a sidebar. I got to tell you a story about him. One morning, I used to work out like in the mornings. Now I have to go in the afternoon because mornings are so crazy. But used to, it would be every morning. Taking my kids to school and we'd go work out. We're in the gym, 6 a.m. And we were in Florida for an event and Dr. Latipo was there. And it was like sun just come up. We're going downstairs to get coffee and some breakfast and getting started with the day. This dude is already coming. He like ran two miles. I mean, he ran two miles. He was like, yeah, you know, and I'm going to like, you know, ran some two miles. That was after I did my workout. Like what? What? He's like a very serious health nut. I really like this guy. And he's very straight no chaser. He is an actual constitutional conservative. So the pick was between this guy and this Susan Monterrez. Susan Monterrez was the deputy director of Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health from 23 to 25 under Biden. She also worked in the Obama White House. So she's an Obama repeat, a repeat Obama Biden loyalist. And Trump picks her over Latipo for CDC director. WTF. Now, I'm also going to say this because there are some people out there who get so tribal they can't see the forest for the trees. Because it needs to be said, you can still like someone and disagree with something that they've done. If anyone doesn't understand that, please, I beg you, go watch Sesame Street. That's better suited to your intellect. You can dislike someone. You can dislike a choice that someone makes and still like the person who made the choice, right? See what I'm saying? Very, very interesting stuff. Easy to work. Easy to work with. We're going to talk about this, though, because we're on the fifth anniversary, like right now, fifth anniversary of COVID and the lockdowns. And I just think that this is a weird way to kick off the fifth anniversary. Then put in a longtime loyalist Obama Biden stooge who is for forced childhood vaccinations. Oh, yeah. Mandatory childhood vaccinations for this. This is the CDC pick over Dr. Latipo, who was like, no, and this is why these forced shots don't work. We're going to talk about this coming up because. I'm not going to listen to the left, but I'll be damned. The right's got to have some standards, too, of our own. We have more on the way. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Preborn, a great organization that helps women exactly where they are and gets them the support that they need. But what I love, because they provide ultrasound, so when you have a mother who's considering whether or not she's choosing life, Preborn is there. They partner with all of these clinics everywhere. all around the country in some of the regions that have the highest number of abortions. And they offer a woman an ultrasound to hear her child's heartbeat. And when that happens, studies have shown that a baby's chance at life doubles when this takes place. 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Like sands through the hourglass. So are the days of the United States.
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Because we in these hot-ass Texas streets, honey. Y'all know we got Governor Hot Wheels down there. Come on now. Really? And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot-ass mess, honey. So, yes. Governor Hot Wheels? Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, I don't know. I'm trying to be maybe RuPaul needs to not do her makeup before she starts running down someone else's appearance. I mean, because I look like I'm just witnessing every time she blinks. I'm like, it's like watching spiders close their legs. I mean, we can do that if you want. I'll match that energy. Can you imagine if she actually, I don't know, legislated as much as she runs her mouth? I love these people who are miles wide and inches deep and they think I'm going to go to Washington and I'm going to really change some stuff. And all they do is debase themselves in front of whatever hot mess leftist organization that was that she spoke at. I mean, he is disabled. And I realize that she is too to a certain degree because it explains the way she does her makeup every day. Oh, you don't want me to be mean? Well, then maybe don't make fun of someone's disability. And I won't be. Just ignorant. That's who the left is.
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She's trash.
SPEAKER 21 :
I just think she is absolute trash. Like, whatever. Again, you don't need to wear an 18 gauge across the whole lid. Okay? Like, vary it up a little bit. No one likes it. Alright, we got a lot more on the way. You know that Goldberg... Think about this. This leak... Or this signal discussion. It actually happened a few weeks ago. Think about when that rocket was, the rocket strike against the Houthis. But Goldberg specifically released it yesterday because we had a Senate Intelligence Committee meeting today. Right on the eve of that. Interesting, huh? Stick with us. Second hour on the way. Partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends at Gold Co. Precious Metals. The economy. I mean, we're all waiting for everything to kind of get normalized. Of course, we need tax cuts because it's not going to be great until we get that. But anyway, you can get your free 2025 gold and silver tickets. kit today. And you could qualify for up to 10% in bonus silver when you visit through danalikesgold.com. Goldman Sachs Research, they raised the gold price forecast to $3,100 by the end of the year. That's underpinned by higher than expected demand from central banks. So now is the time to move. Now is the time to buy. It's easy and transparent to do with GoldCo, a strong supporter of the show. Nobody knows metals inside and out better than them. You can secure your future with Gold Co. Investing in metals is straightforward and reliable. And with over $3 billion in gold and silver secured for hardworking Americans, they've been a top rated company from the start. And experience matters when it comes to protecting your wealth. Gold Co. has that experience. They've helped thousands of people secure their financial futures with gold and silver. And they've been with our program since the beginning, so they know what they're doing. You can secure your future and trust Gold Co. 6,000-plus five-star reviews, an A-plus Better Business Bureau rating. I mean, they are literally the number one rated gold company in the country. So call now, request their free 2025 Gold Co. kit, or actually visit their website now, and learn how to diversify and safeguard your savings today. Visit danalikesgold.com, join the thousands who have called Gold Co. the number one rated gold company, and you can get a free copy of their 2025 Gold and Silver kit today. On top of that, you could also qualify for up to 10% in bonus silver. It's danalikesgold.com.
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Look, I'm going to be responsible here and not disclose the things that I read and saw. I will describe them to you. The specific time of a future attack, specific targets. including human targets, meant to be killed in that attack, weapon systems, even weather reports that the government is... I don't know why HECCP was sharing it with everybody. I mean, the precise detail, and then a long section on sequencing. This is going to happen, then that is going to happen. After that happens, this happens, then that happens, and then we go and find out if it worked. I mean... You know, he can say that it wasn't a war plan, but it was a it was a minute by minute accounting of what was about to happen.
SPEAKER 21 :
Hmm. Remember when reporters. I mean, this was just a few years ago. That was Jeffrey Goldberg, by the way. He's on. What is it? MSNBC, CNN. I don't watch that trash. Yeah, he was on cable news last night really tooting his own horn. Well, you know, I was not going to share this, but I am going to say all this other stuff. One of the reasons why I find all of this such performative theater is many of these people were the same people, by the way, that had no problem at all whatsoever with in laundering money for Hillary Clinton, or sorry, information for Hillary Clinton with Fusion GPS. Remember all of the, do you remember all of the, goodness, I'm trying to think how many reporters that we know of. And the reason we don't know all of them is because their names were mostly redacted. But Fusion GPS, they laundered all of this, all of this information. that they used to try to go and attack POTUS and Republicans and conservatives. And people like Goldberg, they just never said anything about that. They never questioned anything about that. They were very, very happy to go along and do the bidding of the administration in charge. This was a mistake that they're acting like it's worse than all of these things combined. They are acting like this. And I do think it was a mistake. And I I want to lean into the nuance of this because I know that there are some drive-bys that already have it in their mind to hate what I'm saying, and they're immediately going to stop listening. I don't judge our side by the left. I don't judge our side by the left. They don't get to establish the standards and measures by which we hold ourselves. We have our own set of rules that are infinitely higher than the mediocrity to which the left aspires. So separate that for a moment. My point, and I made this point, I'm going to do it again. I think it's a very important one that I made last hour is that I I'm not going to take any kind of criticism from any entity that from the left that laundered information on behalf of the Democrat National Committee to the point where they had to pay a pretty sizable fine. where a FISA judge had to leave after they, with great impropriety, fast-tracked surveillance warrants, surveillance warrants on random average everyday people simply because they were assisting the Trump campaign. And they bypassed all of the safety protocols that are put there for our safety so that they could spy on people and wiretap them. Nobody in the press ever raised any kind of a fit about the abridgment of freedoms. No one raised any alarm over the threat that that established. No one said anything. They went along with it. Not only did they go along with it, but they took government information, like the good Pravda that they are, and they laundered it through the press, and they used it to try to attack and undermine a free and fair election back in 2016. So, no, I'm not taking any of these people seriously. I'm not taking any of these people seriously, as I said, who turned the other way while General Milley was literally talking with the CCP behind our nation's back. telling them, well, if something happened, I'd let you know. Seriously? You guys remember all of that, correct? Not a peep from these people who suddenly, they want you to know that they're the ombudsman. They're the bouncer for standards, don't you know? The same people who are silent right now, who were silent when taxpayer information was released from the IRS so that the left could target and attack private American citizens based on wealth. And the same legacy press that's gleefully wringing its hands as the left goes and doxes and attacks people based on the car that they drive. There was another one of those, another car that got shot at over the weekend, by the way, or over the over the evening. We'll come back to that. So, no, I'm not I'm not taking the left's criticisms of this. I do think I wanted to play audio sound by Tim. I want to play this and then I'm going to respond to it. This is Josh Hawley last night. He was on, was he on Fox? He was on Fox. And this is what he had to say in response to all of this is more about the story came out last night. Listen,
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Well, I thought what the Secretary of Defense just said, Laura, was an outstanding statement. And listen, I mean, we don't know how much of this is accurate or not, but it looks like even if everything that Atlantic reported is true, it's the president's advisors discussing among themselves options they might recommend to the president. And nobody can deny the success of what the president is doing here, which is what Pete Hegseth just underscored. And this is what the leftist media is reduced to. They can't argue with the policies which the American people support. They can't argue with This new demonstration of American strength that is keeping Americans safe at home and abroad.
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I don't think that this is the right message to have. I don't think that that was Holly's best response. I think the response ought to be. Well, I'm not using the less what I just said. I'm not using the left standard of measure for this. And it was several individuals who are were in what they thought was a private signal discussion. One of the thing about signal to I wanted to bring this up. Audio soundbite. This is 28. This is just from earlier today. John Radcliffe talking about one of the first things that happened when he was confirmed to CIA director. Listen to this.
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So that we're clear, one of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers. One of the things that I was briefed on very early, Senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of Signal as a permissible work use. It is. That is a practice that preceded the current administration to the Biden administration. Correctly.
SPEAKER 21 :
So you have all of these Intel folks, all the people with national security. It's really hard to all get them in one room together, isn't it? I mean, Hegseth is on duty in Hawaii right now. He's on a trip in Hawaii right now. It's not beyond the realm of reason to think that they're going to use what they think is an encrypted and apparently sanctioned. method of communication, right? I mean, it's kind of hard to get all of them exactly, because really, unless you're all in the same room together, nothing's entirely secure. And if there's one thing that we've learned about all of these government agencies, just since Trump's been in office with all the waste, fraud, and abuse, is not a single damn thing can be trusted. Do you honestly trust the government to set up a system that they're going to say is encrypted for all of these NatSec folks to use? I sure as hell don't. Do you? What's the difference? Especially when you know that these exact bureaucracies have been leaking information right and left already. That's not even up for debate. So you can't persuade me that something they set up is better than something else. Now, to that point, this is very interesting. Jason Buttrell is a friend of ours. He pointed out and he used to work for the DOD. He pointed out that the at the hearing today signals history, because, again, consider this happened a couple of weeks ago when this strike in Yemen against the Houthis took place. Right. And Jeffrey Goldberg was in the supermarket parking lot, and he just found out about this two hours before. So to say that there was war plans that was in this discussion is really stupid, because it was literally created the day that the strikes happened, and then two hours later, that's when the strikes happened, according to the timeline of the messaging, right? So I would just think it's not as sensitive as he's making it out to be. But aside from that, Buttrell noted that Signal was created by Open Whisper Systems, OWS, founded by a guy, Matthew Rosenfeld, transitioned to the nonprofit Signal Foundation in 2018. And he adds, with significant funding from Brian Acton, a WhatsApp co-founder. Before this, OWS, the Open Whisper System, received funding from Open Technology Fund, a U.S. government-backed organization established in 2012 under Radio Free Asia. Sidebar, full disclosure, Stephen Yates ran Radio Free Asia. which itself has historical roots in CIA-funded Cold War initiatives like Radio Free Europe. The OTF, which is, again, Open Technology Fund, supported by the U.S. Agency for Global Media, provided millions of dollars to OWS between 2013 and 2016 to develop Signal. with the stated goal of creating a secure communication tools for activists and dissidents globally, particularly in countries with repressive regimes. The funding, he says, estimated about 3 million initially, has led some to claim that Signal is a CIA spinoff or has a backdoor for U.S. intelligence. Critics point to the OTF's origins and its alignment with U.S. foreign policy objectives, such as the Internet Freedom Agenda under the State Department, which aimed to undermine authoritarian governments. So, It could be that it's what? It's... All that stuff is part of a PSYOP to expose and inflame, when advantageous to the U.S., different dissident factions within other nations. And every country does this. And if this is not a part, I would love to live in a perfect world where we didn't have to do this. How kittens in sunshine. I love that for us. But unfortunately, we live in big kid land, and that's not how you have to deal with all of your geopolitical threats or frenemies. So you do need stuff like this. You don't need to study what happens if you give mice crack or trans fish, but you do need stuff like this. Now, is it that it was a PSYOP setup? I just think that if you're going to take your shot, rhetorically, you know, you got, you know, they shot their shot with this. This is, this is it. I just, that's why I, I, but at the same time, no one believes that the government is smart so or really the bureaucratic element of it definitely so i'm a little torn you could say well this looks like it's a psyop but they're going to shoot their shot over this that is so dumb i would wait until i had something that's like legit meaty but then again what does that have to do with goldberg getting involved in it He didn't just apparate into the chat. He was accidentally added. So you can have a deep state psyop thing all you want to. And I just assume that I'm always being listened to, which is why every now and then I always tell the CIA to go do something unflattering to itself or whatever NatSec entity is listening in as I look at holsters, whatever. But it's just an accident with a lot of very interesting variables that surround it, I think. You don't think it was a deep state setup because I think it was the dumbest. This is the most Rube Goldberg thing ever. If it was, it's so stupid. It's beyond belief.
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Yeah, I don't know if they were intentionally adding him because that's the only other option. It was either accidental or it was intentional.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, no one denied that they added him. I mean, clearly it was an act. Yeah.
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So imagine if there was some other information in that text thread that they wanted exposed, like, for example, how the U.S. felt and U.S. leadership felt about Europe and their involvement.
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That was going to be my next point.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
So what if it was a setup like that to where, oh, no, look, our true feelings about this is coming out to light. Whoa, Europe, look out. You better step up, Europe.
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Yeah.
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Unbelievable. But with this topic?
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, they did talk about taking things and other information to the high side, quote unquote, which meant to the classified. So they must have understood that what they were talking about didn't necessarily have to go to the high side. But if they were going to go further in that conversation, that they would have to go to the high side. So I don't know.
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I mean, I just think it's fascinating that the press is spending more time, really. I mean, I think it's incredibly important how, you know, for instance, there's a whole domestic terror website of Tesla owners and people are getting shot at for a car they drive. I think that's incredibly important. But the media is not interested. But I tell you what is interesting. I know we've got to get going. Again, they dropped this the day before this NATSEC hearing. What do they not want you to know about that's being discussed today? What are they trying to obscure? That's what you got to think of. We got to move as we move. All family pharmacy. Speaking of big pharma and the government, I am never going to get over the fact that they tried to actually restrict medications and therapeutics like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to you while they were pushing. Like, I don't know. No, I don't. Was it cleaner in a syringe? I don't know. But all family pharmacy. One of the reasons why I love them is because not only is everything that they make, all the precursors for everything is all USA made. from start to finish made in the USA. All your medications are manufactured right here. But they got the ivermectin. They got the hydroxychloroquine. They got the antibiotics. They got over 200 medications. Tons of stuff also this system tried to keep from you. It's simple. It's fast. It's affordable. No insurance. No problem. They got straightforward pricing. They have online ordering. They can ship in just a couple of days. They can do overnight in a pinch. Your health is always within reach. So play by your own rules, not big pharmas, and make sure that you visit All Family Pharmacy. It's super affordable. They've saved me in a pinch many a time. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off using promo code Dana10. Make sure you're prepared. Protect yourself and your family today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Use coupon code Dana10 if you want to save 10%.
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All right, so first up, gosh, we have a lot to hit today. I haven't even gotten through all of it. The Hamas, oh, look, there's the Hamas commander that got murked. He was known as the prime minister of Gaza, killed in a strike. Oh, wow, that terrorist. He's going to be really shocked in the afterlife. Those virgins, they all have madam's apples. Let's see. Women's sports bars, this sounds like hell, are expected to quadruple across the U.S. I just like pubs. I like pub culture. I don't like sports bars. I like the pub, right? The British pub. I like that. But they're expected to. Why is that a thing? Like the women's sports bar. Why is it a women's sports bar? According to NBC analysis. We're going to come back to this. We've got more with it. Let's see. A high school coach was fired after he was caught on camera pulling a player's ponytail. And it wasn't. I mean, he was pulling it. The school district released a letter. I don't know. It's sports. Stick with us. We got a lot more in store packed today. So Tax Network USA, they understand. And as you know, the IRS is the largest collection agency in the world. So if you owe back taxes, if you have unfiled returns, yeah, you don't want to wait for them to come to you. Because if they come to you, they're coming after you. Never contact them alone. Turn it over to the team at Tax Network USA. Not all resolution companies are the same. They have direct access to the IRS, a preferred direct line, meaning they know exactly which agents to deal with and which ones to avoid. Doesn't matter if you have 10,000 or 10 million. They have tailored strategies designed to settle all of your tax issues in your favor. risk-free solutions. So they can protect your financial security, right? And they've resolved over a billion dollars in tax debt. They deliver real results for clients across the country. Schedule your complimentary consultation today. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com slash Dana. Don't let the IRS's aggressive tactics control your future. TNUSA.com slash Dana.
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Sir, your Democratic colleague, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, said, quote, all I want for my birthday is for Elon to be taken down, referring to Elon Musk. The attorney general connected those comments to attacks on Tesla, and she says, quote, of Crockett, she needs to tread very carefully. Is that a threat?
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uh... it sounds like it is and they're certainly making those kinds of threats against democrats all over the place i mean what's so interesting is how extremely literal minded they can get when democrats are using common metaphorical parliament talks about political struggle can you save this for me save that sound bite for me forever welcome back dana lash at the bottom of the second hour one time when i was watching the uh... state of the union address
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And this is when Barack Obama was president. I can't remember what year this was. If it was 2011, I can't remember the year. But regardless, he got up to the podium and he was or the dais and he was up there speaking and he was talking about how all of these different agencies were going to get involved in things that really had nothing to do with their stated purpose or even department name. Like, for instance, he said the Department of Defense was going to start exploring green energies. and you know it sounded weird it's department of defense and he's you know having it they're going to be getting involved in green energy and then he mentioned nasa was going to uh start uh incorporating muslim outreach you all were this was like 2010 2011 actually i think it was 2011 it was before the midterm election and um Actually, it was right after it. I thought it was very interesting, and I made the remark, and this was when I was the token conservative contributor at CNN, and I made the remark that so every department is now going to be involved with things other than their stated name and purpose. So NASA is going to be, so Department of Energy is going to be about going green, and NASA is going to be about Muslim outreach. Maybe we could have a Department of Muslim Outreach and make that about space exploration. And the left, who had been trying to get me fired from CNN since they announced that I was a contributor, lost their minds. The quote was CNN's Dana Lash, let's shoot Muslims into space. It was my desktop background for a very long time. That was a Media Matters headline. And the left was apoplectic. They were going crazy. They wanted me to apologize. For what? No. I actually was put... I had a two-week suspension from that. Nobody knows that. You do now. For that. Because of the left. You want to talk about being literal? The left? The left is all literal. I... Several years later, you know, my Second Amendment advocacy... We always make cakes for our kids' birthdays, right? And whatever they want, we're going to try to make it. We'll try to make this cake. My one kid wanted a weird bug one year, and it was the nastiest. We literally had to make a bug, a cake that was a bug, with fake hair. I can't remember what kind of beetle it was. It was nasty. I'm like, what kind of kid wants to eat this? Whatever. And one year for my oldest son, we made him a grenade cake. I can't decorate cakes for anything, but I can make them taste very good. And my husband decorated it because he's very good at that stuff. And it looked really cool. And he put it up on Instagram, right? The gun control lobby lost their minds. Headline after headline. My poor kid on his birthday. The headline on my kid's birthday was Dana Lash's, you know, violent birthday cake for her. I mean, that's the kind of stuff. Insanity. They have done this forever. Any Trump blinks and they're like, oh my gosh, can you believe? I mean, they lose their minds. But now when Jasmine Crockett gets out there and talks about beating up people like Cruz, Ted Cruz, or taking down Tesla, Jamie Raskin has the audacity to go out there and say, well, she's just using a common metaphorical parlance. You know, that's all she's doing. I mean, they're so literal. You guys got mad about what was on a butter box. And you're going to try to take shots at the right for calling out Jasmine Crockett, who literally called for violence like she actually did. You guys got mad over a black woman on pancake syrup. So spare me your whole metaphorical parlance. Shut up with this. No, we're not doing this. You know, this gets into this whole thing with the left. I don't know if you guys saw this piece. Again, it's from the trash zine called The Atlantic. I almost fell over when I saw this. Now, keep in mind, first off, let me keep in mind. What was the big story over the weekend? People literally, and I know I'm using that word a lot, but that's the word that Raskin has brought up. They would drop trowel and wipe their backsides on a vehicle, right? Ooh, sidebar. Remember the time that there were Marines that killed a terrorist after a terrorist got into a firefight with them and they pretended to urinate on him? And I was defending them saying, you don't need to come down on these war fighters in a theater where, oh my gosh, the left tried to kill me. Yeah. I mean, they were it was nuts. So, yes, spare me the whole there's the literal. So this this was after a weekend of the left smearing actual feces on Tesla's being caught on the sentry cameras, wiping their butts on it, shooting up dealerships. You know, you get the idea. Here's the story over from the Atlantic. This this what's today's date? This came out Sunday. Quote. Here's the... You guys are going to grab onto something. Donald Trump and J.D. Vance have created a brand new stereotype for America, says The Atlantic. Not the quiet American. Not the ugly American. But the brutal American. Whatever illusions Europeans ever had about Americans, those are shattered. And the title... The rise of the brutal American. This is how the bad guys act. I'm scrolling. Not even kidding you. This is literally what. I'll, if you want to, I'll actually, I think I sent the link out, but I think I did it. If you get it, some people have asked me about this. I always, if there's a fire, if there's a paywall, I take it out for you. So when you click on the link, I'm not giving, I already paid for them with my tax dollars through USAID. So why am I going to pay twice? So anyway, the brutal American, the brutal American, first off, is that an insult? Am I, Kane, is that an insult? Am I supposed to be insulted? I don't feel as... I mean, the brutal American, I hear that and I'm like, America! Coming again to save the day, yeah! That's what I think of. What do you mean brutal American? I'm literally made of comments about this. I've got a lot of questions about it. Because I don't see... I don't see the brutal aspect of it. I'm pulling up this piece right now. I'm just trying to understand what they think is brutal. None of that makes sense to me. I don't understand the brutal aspect of it because they're straightforward. That's what it is.
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Because we want laws enforced or we want our border secure.
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I mean, they actually have the audacity to write, quote, in just a few minutes, the behavior of Donald Trump and J.D. Vance created a brand new stereotype for America. And then they say whatever fond memories remain, blah, blah, blah. OK, he almost had his head shot off by a leftist. Spare me the whole brutal American headline. He almost got shot again by another leftist. Spare me the brutal American headline. How about the brutal leftist? Because that's a trait you all share. Whether it's Che Guevara, whether it's Mao Zedong, whether it's Hitler. That's one thing that the left all shares is a murderous, murderous thirst for for brutality. You won't acquiesce. You won't submit. We're going to break your knees. You don't have to think about bending them. That's how the left operates. That's their ideology for everything. Think about it. I had a story last night that I talked about when I was on Fox with Laura Ingraham. This is a smaller example of it, but it just shows you how this ideology permeates every single aspect of how the love deals with everything. Story of these two female students out of Wisconsin. And they're they just go by their Jane Doe because there's like two there's like three other cases of this. The other students have been identified. These students, they didn't want to be identified because they both of them had to leave the school. There have been a rash of these students in multiple states coming forward. So I just want to underscore that it's not just one school district. This is how widespread it is. And the left's attitude towards it that goes on goes in dovetails with this piece. The in this latest example, like the previous one where the student was named, you have minor girls who are in sports or who are they have gym class and you have to change dress out for gym. Right. You have to dress out. That's how it is. And I was, by the way, I hated PE. I mean, I liked PE like when I was in high school, but I was younger. I hated it. Right. Because what do you do? You can't like really play because you got people who suck on your team. Anyway, long story short, these girls were told that they had to accommodate a male student in their locker room, right? Very uncomfortable for young girls. For numerous reasons. It's a very awkward time. You feel weird as a teenage girl in junior high getting undressed in front of other females in a locker room already because that's when your self-consciousness about your body is heightened. Your body imagery, everything. That's the most crucial time for a young lady. And they're being told that they have to change in front of this boy in the locker room. And this is exactly what happened to one of our cousins in a school in Missouri several years ago. The male student was accommodated. He didn't want to change in the boys' locker room, so he was told he could use the girls'. The girls did not want to change in front of him. One of the girls was constantly late to get into the gymnasium because she waited until the boy had changed and left. before she would change there were only a few bathroom stalls and those were always occupied so there were a lot of girls who were late one girl had tons of unexcused absences they just started giving her absences for being late because she didn't want to change in front of the boy and waited till he left the dad had to call the school to rectify that one of the girls was given a failing grade because she was always late coming in because she didn't want to go dress out until the boy left the locker room as punishment they were told they were going to have to change in front of the boy That's the third example just this month. That's in Wisconsin. The other school district was in Illinois, and I think the other one was in California. That's just this month. Think about the students who don't even have lawsuits yet, whose parents haven't said anything. That's pretty, I mean, that's in a wide enough geographical, dispersed across the states to be concerning. And the left's response is, we're going to force you. We're going to break your knee. You're going to change in front of this boy or you're going to flunk. That's what these students were told. I mean, according to the reports and the parents, they were told they had to change in front of the boy so the boy could watch them as they got undressed, took off their pants, the whole nine yards, as punishment for whom or sexual gratification for him. That's how the left responds. You want to talk about brutality? Let's talk about the left's brutality against girls in this nation. Let's talk about the girl that had her brains almost knocked out of her ear because a male was playing on this girl's volleyball team and he hit her in the head with a volleyball. Let's talk about the girls who have been denied scholarship opportunities because boys are now competing in their discipline and they're getting beaten. If you want to talk about brutality... And they have the audacity... To publish a story like this, if you want to have a discussion about brutality, let's talk about the leftist foreign policy that killed 13 service members in Kabul. If you want to talk about brutality, let's talk about the human trafficking that they perpetuate. Democrats condone the deluge across the border like they were the pimps themselves getting kickbacks off of the people that are being brought across. If you want to have a discussion about brutality. No, this is a stupid article that intends to retcon history. The real brutes are the ones who are out of power for now. And you see how violent they get when they're out of power. And you've seen what they do when they get a little bit of it. That's brutality. We got a lot more on the way. We got Florida already. 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I got to give a lot of props to Uber Eats drivers and like DoorDashers because I get real weird doing small talk. And I can't even imagine going to somebody's house and leaving food there because God forbid, what do you got to talk to them? You know, like what in the world? And then what if it ends up like this? An Uber Eats driver was attacked by a Florida man over an alcohol delivery. Of course, Deltona guy. He's facing charges because he attacked a driver over his alcohol delivery. It was in Volusia County. Police responded. They spoke with a woman who was the Uber Eats driver. She said she got an order to deliver multiple bottles of alcohol to 31-year-old Miles Webb. She arrived at his home. Her boyfriend, who accompanies her for safety, remained in the vehicle. The driver asked Webb for his ID. That's required. When Webb refused, she told him she'd have to return to the store, and then he grabbed her from behind, wrenching her left arm as she walked away, grabbed the bag containing the alcohol, dragged her towards the house, pulling a glass bottle out of the bag. She managed to free her arm. Everything fell to the ground. The boyfriend ran to defend her. The guy threatened to hit him with a bottle. Oh, my gosh, it was crazy. Deputies tried to speak with Webb. He wouldn't open his door. So he's now charged with felonies, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and a count of simple battery. You always have to show your driver's license. for an alcohol delivery. I mean, sometimes they make you do it for root beer. I kid you not. I had to speak with somebody over root, and I'm like, you really want to see my ID over root. You know there's no alcohol in it, right? And they're like, oh, yeah, we know. Like, I get it. You can't be doing that kind of stuff. 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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley, the top of this third hour. We have Senator Marsha Blackburn is going to be coming up later on in the program. I had a laugh at this article from Axios, the headline behind the curtain dims dark, deep hole. It's talking about their popularity rating. It's like the worst. They have the lowest favorability ever. Ever. In the history, I don't even know how it's lower now than it was after FDR did internment camps. I don't know how it's low. I mean, were they not measuring the party's approval back then? I can't imagine it being lower than when they were against FDR. you know, women voting or when they didn't want slavery to be criminalized. Like I just didn't, you know. No, it's now. The party has its lowest favorability ever, says Axios. This is bolstered by a couple of new surveys out, including a CNN one. I know we hate them. Democrat Party's favorability drops to a record low. OK, we got all that. They have Axios notes. There are no popular national leaders to help improve it. They have insufficient numbers to stop most legislation in Congress. Now, to that point, Republicans have insufficient numbers really to get anything done. They say durable minority on the Supreme Court dwindling influence over the media ecosystem with right leaning podcasters and social media accounts ascendant. OK, I got to stop for a moment there. They literally got the I send this word too much today. They got the government involved to actually suppress free speech on social media platforms. Yours truly was one of those targeted. They absolutely did. They absolutely did. They said young voters are growing dramatically more conservative. I told you that was going to happen. Now, 2026, they say it doesn't look great for them for Senate. It looks better for them for the House. They said that there are only three House Republicans in districts. Former VP Harris won in 24. There's not going to be a Democrat surge, but they could definitely even it out in the House. They said that Democrats may suffer another blow in the 2030 census. If the current population patterns hold, they said the party could lose as many as a dozen seats in the House and electorally. Sorry, I got a smile on that one because that's I like that. I mean, who doesn't like that? So they're they're having a bad time, you could say. They've done numerous comprehensive surveys from numerous Democrat pollsters and they have what Axios says captured vividly and empirically the daunting data. And they add for those skeptical of polls and sampling size, for instance, David Shore, who conducted one such survey, his is based on 26 million online responses collected over just last year alone. And it is filtered to adjust any redundancies or oddities of modern polling. He is estimating a 23-point swing against Democrats amongst immigrants, particularly Hispanic Americans. Democrat support amongst that community has dropped by over 50%. Told you, natural allies. The rise of conservatism amongst young people, particularly men, And they said that millennials were the most progressive. Gen Z. This makes my heart sing. Gen Z is about to become the most conservative. I have chills saying this. Do you know why Gen Z is? Because Gen X is saving the universe is why. Because Gen X is raising Gen Z. You can't have Gen X parents and be anything but. Come on. Oh my gosh, it's amazing. All of us deserve to have that chiseled on our tombstone as an epitaph, by the way. Save the universe, Gen X. Young people particularly. I think this is something worth exploring over the months to come. The conservatism of Gen Z. Because they're a very interesting generation. They're natural cynics. From my experience, just with my own, my kids are different because my kids, what I do and all that, although we've kept them out of it. That's why you don't see my kids with a lot of these Republican youth groups that tour around the country. Because my position has always been like, I really don't care what anybody has to say unless you own property and pay tax. That's the site. Don't care. So I just I'm like, now you're not going to go somewhere just because you share a name. We're not doing that. You got to earn it. But I do think that this is very interesting. Rahm Emanuel, of all people, has been warning his party they need a, quote, emergency meeting of mayors and governors to rethink the party's perception and priorities and see what is working in schools. So I say this because things could be so easy right now. They're going to be made more difficult. By our own side. I mean, this is all like stuff like this. Can we talk about big soda for a moment? Geez, I can't even believe this is a thing. So there was a thing over the weekend. Influensible. A company apparently accused of cutting big checks to influencers on behalf of big soda. Is there not a big anything? There was a big supermarket. Big soda now. And some of them, apparently, of course, there are tons of people that are paid. I can tell you who's being paid and who's not. Like right now, if you said, Dana, the world depends on you naming everybody who's getting a check, I could definitely give you a list of names. Some of them, many of them are on cable news. Nobody discloses that they're paid for this stuff. I don't care if people get paid to advocate. Just be honest about it, right? So, like, for instance, there's one account that said, oh, the government wants to block soda purchases for Americans on Snap. Remember when New York tried this and it backfired? Trump probably had a Diet Coke button in the Oval Office. It's ridiculous government overreach. Let people decide for themselves. Can I just point out the idiocy of saying something like this? You're talking about a big government program and big government involvement funded by the taxpayer, and then you're daring to call any limitation on it government overreach? You are the left right now. All of these so-called conservative accounts that I've seen make this argument. You are literally the left. You're the people bitching and moaning about cutting waste and abuse from with Doge because you're mad over. How about this? Try some conservatism on for size and ask WTF. Do we need snap for more government? If you had things, again, by the state and people helping people and we had lower taxes and a lot better fiscal policy, guess what? You probably wouldn't need all this stuff. But I love the people who are like, oh, well, this big government program, you know, people should be able to spend taxpayer dollars on whatever they want. That's what I hear. And apparently they're getting paid like they're saying, oh, it's a new war on snow on soda. Targeting purchases made through snap. It's not the government's role to decide what people should or shouldn't eat. Why do we have? It's a government program. It is a big taxpayer funded government program. Newsflash to you fake ass conservatives out there where my tax dollars go. So do my two cents. If you're getting my tax dollars, I'm going to tell you what to do with them. Be conservative for once. Stop cosplaying as it. Be consistent. Jiminy. I mean, I've got so many different, there's a lot of big accounts. A couple of them are my friends. And they all say similar things. Like, oh, they want to restrict soda purchases through SNAP. This is an unwanted attempt by the government to dictate what Americans can and can't buy on a giant government program. How many brain cells do some of you people have? Dear heavens. Where's the consistency? It's a big government program. You're saying that it's government overreach to restrict how a big government program operates? And you want to call yourself a Republican or a conservative? Get out. Get out. It's the same thing as the people who are mad over Doge recommended cuts. But to that point, Kane, why aren't we getting bought off? Big Cab, I am for sale. Big Gin, Here I am. I wake up every morning and start my day with some big gin. I don't know. I mean, I'll sell it. Whatever. Come on. I'll tell you I am. I mean, not like, you know, in your face, but there'll be signs.
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Yeah, where's big probiotic when I need it?
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Yeah, Kane was one. Well, I think it's between us.
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Yeah.
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No, not you. Shh. Go look over there. Meet the radio people. Between us, Kane's already being paid by big probiotics. And big hate old people.
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You are lying right now.
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I mean, I got, I'm like all for being, I'll be paid by Big Cab.
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Big Cab.
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Big Cabernet. Right? Man. Oh, man, I'm telling you. I'm just thinking of, yeah, there's some good.
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Big Kombucha.
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Big Kombucha?
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Big Kombucha.
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What about Big Sour Patch Kids?
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Dude, Big Snacks. Yeah, there it is.
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I will totally be paid by Big Snacks. I'm just saying.
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Who runs Big Snacks?
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I don't know. Maybe the same people who run Big Soda? I just think I don't know, like apparently. So there was a text that went out. Nick Sartor. I don't know who he is totally, but I follow him. He has some good stuff. He said influencers were texted by people telling them to help push back against government overreach and they'd be paid between several hundred and thousand dollars for each post. And that's why everything kind of sounds similar. Apparently, there was like a big thing. So it's like they said lobbying firms. I didn't even know. What is this? Hang on. Oh, Cart Choice. That's a lobbying firm. Amira Bev. The big beverage. Okay, so that's the non-alcoholic refreshment. But I don't care about Amira Bev because they're a non-alcoholic beverage. I don't care about you. Go away. I want big gin, big cab, big moonshine cane. Ooh. dude big moonshine i am for sale i'll just let you know like are people not that you do have to be aware of this stuff and it's i think it's pretty obvious when i see people who i can you know even you can kind of tell people are smart would you you could you would get paid a thousand dollars to post about a big probiotic wouldn't you
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Oh, hell yeah. Just to put out there my own personal experience. So it'd be easy. Easy thousand bucks.
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Yeah, it'd be great. So a couple of things. We've got, oh, can we talk about the women's sports bars thing real quick? Why do we, what am I missing about the women's? It says women's sports bars are expected to quadruple. What do you mean women's sports bars? Like it's a sports bar. What makes it women's sports bar? Is it pink inside?
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Did they mean to talk about sports bras?
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No, no, I don't know. But it's pubs, sports bar. Don't call it a pub if it's not a pub. Shut up. They said there's a Title IX sports girl in Phoenix and there's something, of course, in Austin. And they said that women's first sports. I just think this sounds lame. I don't know. I mean, do what you're going to do. And if you make money, good on you. But I don't like when I'm if I'm going out with friends, I'm not going to be like, let's go to a women's place. I don't. Those are called spas and I don't like them. We talked about this before. It's weird. I don't like them. Can I have a story? My husband, because my husband likes relaxation. We work a lot. And he thinks that spas are neat. And I think that they're torture devices. Like spare Gitmo. Just send me to a spa. I'll tell you whatever you want to know. You wear somebody else's nasty ass bathrobe. You go in with weird, not even your own slippers. You're not supposed to have your phone. You got to sit there and read stupid magazines that are a month old and listen to other women blab. Like I can't imagine anything that sounds more hellacious. That's what hell is intended for me if I ever, if I don't make it into heaven, which I'm going to heaven. But that being said, sports bars sound very similar to that for me. I just send me to a pub. Just go to a bar. I don't want to go to like a ladies only spot. Anyway, my husband, we went to this one cane, uh, the spa and they had a salt room. I don't even know what this is. You go in and there are these people, they look like cult members with their borrowed bathrooms on and they were laying on a bed, which was a slab of salt. And then apparently like this new age weirdo cult music was playing and, um, like crappy Enya and there's like salt in the air and you're supposed to like absorb salt. And I'm just sitting there and you're supposed to keep this thing on your eyes. And I'm just sitting there. My eyes are open. I'm just like, this is lame. Everyone else is pretending, aren't they? This is all a giant joke. Everyone's pretending that they're in this moment and experiencing this on this salt slab. I feel like I'm being served up. as like a dish. This is weird. I stood, I sat in there for like three minutes and I was out. I'm like, I've got to go. I can't, I can't. My husband's like, it's relaxing. No, it's not. This is cultish. If I want to relax, I'll go sit in my yard. I don't need to go do this. This is weird. I don't like it. Anyway, sports bar, female sports bar. Super Beats, the only super, the only beat product that I recommend to you. Sorry, just not a big fan of the other ones. I think this one is the one that has, well, not only because I know it works, but I mean, I started taking it before they started working with me. But also, they put a lot of effort into every product that they bring to market. They have actual scientists and medical professionals that they work with. And they are sticklers for detail. So you know the Super Beats heart chews for heart health. Well, they have Super Boreem. This supports healthy metabolism and blood sugar levels. It's a plant-based formula. And it's berberine and Italian olive fruit extract. And the berberine that they use, they wanted a particular type of berberine. And they had this, what they use, clinically studied. It actually delivers 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine, which means fewer pills to swallow. You get metabolism and healthy blood sugar support benefits in one capsule a day. And because I can literally hear Nana right now asking this question, there's no GI distress. If you're worried about berberine causing GI distress, their unique formula with grapeseed extract actually improves tolerability. You can get both the Superberine and the number one best-selling Super Beats hard shoes at Sam's Club. That's where you can go purchase Super Beats hard shoes for your heart health support and the Superberine for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support. That's from our folks at our friends at Human.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Anheuser-Busch announced that they're ending their sponsorship of St. Louis' Pride Fest. Isn't it like the biggest, whatever, one of the big ones? They're not doing their annual Alphabet Festival Pride Fest. This is after 30 years of partnership. They said that, I guess it's $150,000 that they gave to it every year. I wonder if that's because all the Bud Light stuff. Or if it's just because people are, they're broke. I don't know. I'm just wondering. Yeah, I'm just, I'm like curious. I find that kind of interesting. Let's see. The FDA approved lab-grown blood vessel. They've approved this despite some warnings. The agency okayed an artificial vessel to restore blood flow in patients even though its own scientists are flagging the questionable study results and they're saying there's some potentially fatal ruptures. Yeah, I don't think this is something that I would do. I don't think so. A man allegedly robbed a store with a finger gun. You know, Colorado Springs, the PD there said they arrested a dude because he allegedly used a finger gun to rob a store. They said when they got there, the suspect, Antonio Taylor, had a finger gun pointed at the clerk and began to take items. They know it's not going to fire, right? Like, what is that? They were able to take him into custody. They took his teenage daughter, too, and put her in protective care. But now he's in the pokey. He's got a very he's got his mugshot all out there ready to rock. Very interesting stuff. And let's see. Oh, I can't. Oh, segues. They're recalling all these scooters. I wonder if one of mine, if mine is one of the ones that are getting recalled. Stick with us. Senator Blackburn is next.
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When Jesse Martinez hits the highway and his Tesla Model S. Oh, it drives fantastic. Yeah, it's my first. But now it feels risky to drive. Investigators say someone shot out his driver's side window with a BB gun as he drove through the town of Zebulon late Sunday night.
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We have a family. We got kids, you know, so who knows if that would have gone through and I was driving my kids or, you know, it would have hit my buddy or something.
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Vandalism and threats against the electric car brand continue to rise throughout the country. Authorities cracking down on public backlash against Tesla CEO Elon Musk and his involvement with the Trump administration. FBI Director Kash Patel calls the acts of vandalism domestic terrorism.
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This is actual domestic terrorism. These attacks, just simply on the brand, because somebody's driving a certain brand of vehicle. And we've been covering this, I mean, every day we have a story. That's not exaggerating. I mean, I actually have two news stories today about this. There was a guy that had a flag of a guillotine at the New York City showroom, Tesla's New York City showroom. And then this guy, this father from North Carolina said, There was another Seattle, Portland stuff in Illinois. It is at Austin, Texas. It's at Franklin, Tennessee in Tennessee. Beautiful Tennessee. They're having these issues. Speaking of Tennessee, joining me now, the lovely senator from Tennessee, Senator Marsha Blackburn, who is putting forward a resolution. regarding these attacks. Senator, so good to see you. This is organized domestic terrorism because you have a website out there that has doxed all the Tesla owners, as you know, all their information, their phone numbers, social media, even the showrooms, all out. And the cursor is a little Molotov cocktail. I mean, that's terrorism.
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indeed this is one of the most frightening things and to know that tesla dealerships service centers tesla owners are being threatened that these attacks are being carried out against them dana this needs to come to an end and every member of the US Senate should stand with me with my resolution denouncing this domestic terrorism and calling for it to stop. There is no place for this kind of political violence. And if people don't want to drive a Tesla, don't drive a Tesla. go drive another make of car but why would they continue to do this and of course what we hear from them is they don't like elon musk they don't like doge so they would rather have out of control government spending which the American people have said government is overspent. It is continuing to spend too much. The American people are overtaxed, and it is time for this to come to an end. So I encourage all of my colleagues, stand with me. Let's call this out as domestic terrorism.
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And that's it. Senator Marsha Blackburn, she also tweeted out that the Democrats spent last four years yelling about domestic terrorism. And I was watching the hearing earlier today, the Intel hearing, where one of the senators was asking Tulsi Gabbard, Well, why isn't climate change listed as a great threat here? I mean, not a single one of these Democrat senators, to your point, Senator Blackburn, brought up the doxing of Tesla owners. And there are thousands of people now that are terrified to drive their cars out. I'm so glad that this dad didn't have his daughter in the car. What would have happened?
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Well, it is a frightening thought. My son and his wife have a Tesla. They have children. My husband drives a Tesla. And we were talking about this when we were driving to church on Sunday in the Tesla. And you think about the fact that people are are confronting the owners, they are riding on the cars, they're damaging their property, and this needs to come to a stop. This is the kind of behavior that is so destructive. First of all, it's illegal and it's wrong, Dana, and people need to realize that. But also, the fact that people would do this to friends and neighbors simply because they're driving a car and they don't like the person that started the car company when he is trying to help save our government from so much debt that we can no longer protect our sovereignty. And he is standing up and helping with that. And you know, it's so important to note, conservatives like you and me, We have long said we need to reduce what the federal government spends and cut into that baseline, actually lower what we are spending, not cut the increase, but cut into the baseline. And now we have a group of people that are working with the secretaries and the agency heads to actually cut in the waste into the baseline and find the waste. and find the fraud so we can end that because there are billions of dollars being wasted every year. There are billions of dollars that are going out in improper payments and people that are knowingly defrauding the federal government and defrauding some of our programs. When that happens, it's astounding because it is recipients and beneficiaries of these programs that are not getting everything that they are entitled to. Exactly. So we have to keep that in mind. We are trying to help protect these beneficiaries and we've got these leftists out here protesting, burning cars and firebombing dealerships and trying to protect the status quo.
SPEAKER 21 :
And it's so unfortunate. We're talking with Senator Marsha Blackburn from the great state of Tennessee. Senator, you also have been right to your point. You've been raising the alarm about these missing FEMA checks. I can't imagine how horrible it is for these Hurricane Helene survivors. They're trying to rebuild their lives. They pay into a system that they think is going to be there for them when tragedy strikes, as it has. And then it's been discovered that these checks have gone missing. I was reading one of the reports. Some of the victims saw their checks were deposited in banks around the state and even around the country. How much money are we talking that has gone missing here?
SPEAKER 13 :
We are trying to get a number on what we think that number, that missing check number is. What we do know is this, and I would encourage anybody who is watching or listening in your audience, if they live in Tennessee and they have an issue, then they need to call our office. Go online, find us, call us. We have a caseworker who is really bird-dogging all of these issues, working. with these individuals and we have some of the county mayors who are helping to get these individuals to us so we can figure out what has happened with these checks. Now, what we need is for FEMA to work closely with us and with these recipients, people that were harmed that need to find their check. They're waiting to be able to sign a contract to build a house or to restore their farmland or to rebuild a barn or maybe to open the doors of their business. And so this money needs to get to the correct recipient and people can depend on us to help them through this process.
SPEAKER 21 :
I can't imagine how horrible it is for these families. I When it's only until victims say, wait a minute, we didn't get our money that we realize, oh, my gosh, what happened here? Where I mean, FEMA apparently had no oversight. And I know that you all are working to get that fixed as well as the budget. Everything else we're all waiting for. tax cuts to be made permanent. And those Doge cuts, as you so accurately noted a little bit earlier, you know, these cuts that are being recommended by Doge, they're not taking power away from the Senate or from the House. They're recommending these cuts for you all to implement. Are you confident that you're going to be able to get some of your other senators to get on the same square as you?
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. We are, what we're doing is, and I think it's important to note, we have the reconciliation bill that we will pass. Now the doge cuts are going to come through a rescission bill. And Dana, as you know, between now and the 26 elections, we have the opportunity to do not one or two, but three reconciliation bills. And that is why you hear some of the conservatives in the Senate saying, let's go big and bold. Let's... use all of these reconciliation bills because that allows us to save more money for the taxpayer. On the rescissions, we are waiting for OMB to send us a list that we can put in a rescission package. We can then pass that with 51 votes in the Senate and that will eliminate those discretionary spending items permanently from the budget and the reconciliation and the rescission bills can travel in tandem through the process our goal is to cut as much as we can cut save as much as we can save and get ourselves back to pre-pandemic spending numbers and we We are right now at $7.3 trillion. The House past budget would put us at $7.1 trillion. There are many of us in the Senate that want to get down to $6.5 trillion so that next year we can get to that $5.5 trillion number, which would be a balanced budget. And President Donald Trump wants a balanced budget. Our goal is to implement President Donald Trump's agenda and to actually cut that baseline of what the federal government is spending so that we preserve our nation's sovereignty and we preserve our ability to work as a free and independent nation for our children and our grandchildren. And you can get those 51 votes, I think.
SPEAKER 21 :
You can get to that number.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. We can.
SPEAKER 21 :
Ooh, I like that. That makes me feel a little bit better. I've been so nervous watching all of this stuff. Last question for you before I let you go, Senator Blackburn. I would be remiss if I didn't ask this because we have a lot of listeners in Tennessee listening terrestrially. And of course, people watching the simulcast. You do such a great job in the Senate. You know what's coming. And we love you in the Senate. But I also know that there are a lot of Tennesseans that would like to see you in the governor's office. So is that something that
SPEAKER 13 :
you're maybe thinking of looking into, or is that, where were you at on that? We are taking a serious look at this. And, you know, we know this first two years is going to be centered here in D.C. with President Trump's agenda. And then as the power and authority and the money goes back to the states for education, healthcare, regulations and benefits, we know that it is going to be up to the states to take those correct actions to reduce the size, the scope, the reach of government into the taxpayer's pocket and into their life. And we think this is how you cement a conservative agenda for not only this generation, but the next.
SPEAKER 21 :
There you go. Well, maybe if we could just clone you and you could stay in the Senate and then you could also run for governor. I mean, that would work. Yeah, we'd like that. We'd take that. That'd work. Yeah, it'd work. Senator Marshall Blackburn, we always appreciate it. And thank you for your very consistent conservative fight. We appreciate you. Thank you.
SPEAKER 02 :
First, we have a pardon for Devin Archer. Devin Archer was a former business partner of the Biden family. He was prosecuted relating to a fraud investigation, but notably the tone and tenor of that prosecution changed dramatically after he began to cooperate with congressional investigators and serve as a witness against Hunter Biden and the Biden family. We believe that was an injustice and therefore we're asking you to pardon him.
SPEAKER 25 :
And many people have asked me to do this. I think he was treated very unfairly. And I looked at the record, studied the records that he was. He was a victim of a crime as far as I'm concerned. So we're going to do that.
SPEAKER 21 :
The guy who blew the whistle on Hunter Biden has been pardoned. First off, I love the guy that explains all this to Trump because Trump knows it. But it's all for show. Right. And Trump wants he wants it to be like, I go ahead and explain it for the people, too. And the guy's there, you know, well, Mr. President, and I need that guy to explain it. Can you imagine if he had that guy to explain everything in life to you? Right? Ma'am, you scan this, and then you put it in the bag right here. I just love that.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's what AI is going to be for everybody.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, my gosh. He's like a walking Siri. He is. Real quick, too, one last thing. We may have to talk more about this tomorrow. The Cain Velasquez, did you guys see this story? Cain Velasquez, I think he did what almost any other dad. Actually, I think he did what any other dad would do. This is a guy who chased down former UFC fighter. He was sentenced to five years in prison because he hunted down and fired at the guy who was accused of molesting his four-year-old son at a daycare. In 2022, Velasquez got into a high-speed 11-mile chase with this pedo. Harry Gularte, who's been out free walking around. He's going to trial. Velasquez rammed his car into Gularte's vehicle, pulled out his gun, fired at Gularte, missed, hit his stepfather, Gularte's stepfather instead. And then he began shooting at them again at the Morgan Hill intersection. They tried to flee. He rammed their vehicle, fired more rounds. Some people are saying, well, the stepdad got hit. Well, that's what happens when you hang out with a pedo, number one. But number two, my only complaint is that he didn't just one shot, one kill. That's it. I think pedophiles should be put to death instantly. No, no appeal. Oh, I robbed you of your today in stupidity. Oh, my gosh. I totally and Kane had a good one. Save it for tomorrow. Save it for tomorrow. I'll be on Fox Business in the 5 p.m. Central Hour. Back with you tomorrow.
In this episode, explore the M&M Experience with a focus on understanding how quick decisions can lead to both progress and pitfalls in today's political and media environments. Discover how influential figures operate within and across party lines, and the critical role of media coverage in shaping public opinion. As they wrap up with a humorous take on the Texas Buc-ee's phenomenon, this episode offers both insight and entertainment.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 03 :
It was a mistake. And there's no reason to get all upset. They're going to be exercised over this as we would be if the shoe was on the other foot. I mean, Jessica Tarloff got her little dig in yesterday on The Five. I love the dynamic of a show like The Five. And here's what I love about it. I always am fascinated by what they won't cover. The Five didn't touch this story with a 10-foot pole. And Jessica Tarloff wanted to. So in her first round, you know, they go through rounds and they ask, they do topics and then They all have rotating hosts. It's kind of an interesting and it's a very successful format, obviously. So Jessica couldn't resist. She's answering some question about, you know, I don't know, college campuses. And then she got into this story. She added it on her own and she said, and I don't ever want to hear another word about Hillary's emails again.
SPEAKER 02 :
And seconds later.
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you mean, go?
SPEAKER 02 :
Seconds later, Jesse threw down about Hillary's emails. Well, of course. And properly so, because when Hillary acid washes scrubs as people hammer it on phones, it's on purpose. It is intentional subterfuge.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know.
SPEAKER 02 :
This appears to be a genuine human mistake on the part of an administration that absolutely is going to keep America safer than these jokers ever did. So you've got Hillary and Mayor Pete daring to step forward out of whatever cave he's living in now to go, this is a major F-up. Have a seat, son. I'll let you know what we need from you about national security.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're right. But like Banshee said, two days, this thing is over, and we're going to move on. Look, let's be honest here. When you move fast, you break things. And things are getting broken. Mistakes are going to be made. I love the clip, and I'm going to find it. And I mentioned this to you yesterday, of Elon in the White House saying, look, we're going to make mistakes. The key is when we do, we've got to own it. We've got to fix it. You've got to know about it. I have to admit, I was a little... Surprised at Pete Hegseth's reaction.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, he comes on the plane and somebody asks him what's going on when national security issues are being talked about in a way that allows a reporter to be added to the chat by mistake. And he immediately goes into an attack on Jeffrey Goldberg, which, by the way, he's 100 percent right. Jeffrey Goldberg is a weasel. However, the story appears to be true, and maybe his better approach would have been what you've described, is to say, look, okay, if that wasn't great, we'll handle it, and blah, blah, blah. Anyway.
SPEAKER 03 :
You want to know what the worst part of this story, way bigger than any supposed threat to national security or whatever, the end of the world and everything. And here's the biggest question. Why is Jeffrey Goldberg on anybody's speed dial in the Trump administration? In other words, it suggests that there's a relationship there, and this is a Trump-hating left publication. So, I mean, you know, that goes back to our often – Do you engage with the other side? Do you talk to reporters?
SPEAKER 02 :
Speaking of which, first of all, that was going to be my first answer to your point, is this administration will have a bunch of reporters in their contact list. Being reporters, most of them are going to hate this administration, but there's going to be some communication. Speaking of communication, I know you love your text line and I love mine. On our text line yesterday, right after you and I finished yesterday, somebody had a little something they wanted me to ask you about having communication with the other side. And I had it in front of me, and I'm going to totally mess it up. How is it that Mike Gallagher yesterday gave us the large lecture on on we must connect with the other side and hear them and be open to them and hear their views, which, by the way, is a worthy point to be made.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which is, incidentally, a total mischaracterization of what I said.
SPEAKER 02 :
But go ahead. That's not what I said. It's the same schizo Mike Gallagher who mere days earlier was headstrong hammering anybody who thought it was a good idea for Gavin Newsom to welcome Charlie Kirk. So help me out, schizo boy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's fair. I mean, look, I was pulling a Tucker Carlson yesterday. I was just asking the question. I was just asking the question, should we reach across the aisle? No, I mean, I didn't say, look, I think it's fair to acknowledge the temperature is pretty high right now. It is. And families – you and I have talked about families being torn apart. I hear every day – heartbreaking stories. A little old lady from Long Island yesterday whose only sister, and they've been best friends for 80 years, has cut her out of her life. And she won't talk to her. And, you know – It's up to us to persuade the other side. And I get what your point is. And you're right about, look, I guess you're trying to persuade Gavin Newsom maybe not to be who he is. Gavin Newsom wants to run for president. But incidentally, apparently so does Jasmine Crockett. Yeah. Wow. Can I make a prediction right here, right now? Let me make a prediction. 745 Central Standard Time, Tuesday, March 25th. She's going to go too far. She's going to say something. Well, she already has, but I mean even farther than she's gone. I mean, she's going to really step in at one of these days.
SPEAKER 02 :
In terms of, because this is the 30th District, South Dallas County, Member of Congress. The once for the forever Eddie Bernice Johnson seat. And Eddie Bernice looks like Margaret Thatcher compared to this woman. And she's mouthy and she's edgy and she's hard left, which makes her a darling on MSNBC. And she and she's a racist and and a hater and a smear merchant. Lately, though, in a weekend interview on Channel 5, she had this talking about the Colin Allred race against Ted Cruz. And you've got to hit him hard and you've got to aim for the head and. And listen, as much of a fool as she is, I'm going to give her some latitude as I would give anybody for using metaphors in political battle. I'm not so much worried about that. But she did also say, because Saturday is March 29th, right? You know this is the Tesla day of action or the day of outrage or the day of insanity. So I got to tell you, out at Legacy West in Plano, some of my favorite restaurants are along that stretch. There's a Tesla dealership there as well. I'm not going to say don't go. I ain't going. just three hours down the road from where I'm sitting right now, Austin. bombs found at a Tesla dealership, the violent left is on parade. And when people show you what they are, pay attention.
SPEAKER 03 :
And please do not debate whether this is domestic terrorism or not, because it certainly is. And I guarantee you there's a whole lot of people going to be spending a whole lot of time in prison for these violent actions against Tesla.
SPEAKER 02 :
And all the Teslas have cameras! what is called sentry mode, where if I walk up in Kia Tesla today, you're going to see me as well as people are seeing me on the Salem News Channel. Correct. Oh, it'll be all over.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, these are not the brightest bulbs in the box, but that brings me back to Jasmine Crockett, because not only is she celebrating the demise of Tesla and urging Texas crews to be, you know, essentially assaulted, she also said something that was really shocking. She gave an interview where she said, I don't care about any legislation. I just want to take down Trump. I mean, this, like you said, when people say who they are, believe them.
SPEAKER 02 :
And that's what she said about Tesla, too. Herbert said, all I want on my birthday is to take down Elon. Let's take down Tesla. And I guess she could be talking reputationally or policy-wise, and I do give latitude in certain ways, but when your party is attacking people and people on your side are engaged in a wave of domestic terrorism, you might want to rein
SPEAKER 03 :
You might want to pump the brakes a little, which is kind of what the theme was of the show yesterday. And it was kind of an interesting conversation because I was asking, should we pump the brakes a little bit? Do we make more? Here's what set me off. I had a guy last week call the show, and we mixed it up really big. But I know who he was. He's that troll guy. He's the call guy. You know who he is. He calls shows, and he tapes the reaction from the conservative hosts. Who cares? And he posts it on his ex-account with 13 followers. and that's how he gets his jollies. But he wants to really, really argue, and he called the other day, and I think I was kind of... Influence because I knew who he was. He didn't know that I knew who he was. But we have a way here with our phone system to know when someone like that's calling. Because he's real sophisticated. He spoofs phone numbers. He uses different numbers, different names, different parts of the country. It's a whole big thing for him. But when we started arguing, I found myself heating up the conversation. I was interrupting. I was arguing. And I'm like, you know what? And he was making arguments. And we all do that, Mark. I mean, present company included. We all try to shut down the other side too much probably and not listen when somebody's trying to make a point that we disagree with. And I'm wondering if we shouldn't kind of ease up on that approach a little bit, let them vent, let them speak, and try to win them over. You know what it is, Mark, and you and I talked about this. It's the spirit of Charlie Kirk going on to college campuses. Yeah. That's what he does. And he's not in shouting matches with these college kids. He's trying to effectively persuade them that their way is lost, that their progressive instincts are wrong. And he does a powerful job, a masterful job. Look, this guy is a treasure. And so I kind of saw a bunch of those Charlie Kirk videos before the show yesterday, and I was kind of having a good conversation with him. And it was. It was helpful. And I do appreciate the criticism because you're right. I don't want to platform Gavin Newsom. I don't want to make him palatable. Hey, let's end on a positive note. I played a clip on my X account. You can follow me at GallagherShow on X. Mm-hmm. The Buc-ee's Experience. Oh, I don't know about this.
SPEAKER 02 :
There's a young lady.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have you heard this?
SPEAKER 02 :
I have not. There's a young lady. Having just done some Texas Hill Country, we stopped at both the Temple Texas Buc-ee's and the Buc-ee's right by the Texas Motor Speedway on the way home. So I've got a face full of Buc-ee's experiences just in the last couple of days.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's the funniest clip, and it's so real. I know we're over time. Can I play it? Do we have a minute and a half, or are we too late?
SPEAKER 02 :
We do not.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, we do not. So tomorrow, remind me tomorrow to play for you the Buc-ee's. You've got to tell me about it. It's her. It's this young woman in a car extolling all the virtues of Buc-ee's in a hysterical way. You do all your Christmas shopping there. There's not just tchotchkes there. You can get bathrobes. All the food groups. All the food groups. You walk it all the hell. Well, of course, she jokes about that, like beef jerky is now a major food group.
SPEAKER 02 :
There's a wall of jerky. There's a wall of jerky.
SPEAKER 03 :
You go and get a brisket. The bathrooms, she said, are cleaner than most of America's operating rooms. Correct. And the stalls are floor to ceiling. You could go in and file your taxes in a stall.
SPEAKER 02 :
She's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, oh, I'm going to play. Let's start tomorrow. Can I play this for you tomorrow?
SPEAKER 02 :
You're not going to want to miss it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's get it out of the way tomorrow, and off we go. You got it. All right. Happy Tuesday, my friend. Own the mistakes and move on. Two-day news cycle. Precisely right.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. I love you. I love you. That's Mike. He's going to share more love. 10 o'clock, soon as we're done, right here on 660 AM. The answer.
SPEAKER 01 :
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Download the podcast and hear all of Mike and Mark's conversations at MikeOnline.com for the M&M experience.
Explore the profound strength found in mutual discussions of faith and personal growth. Angie draws listeners into mesmerizing accounts of unexpected life lessons while traveling, discussing the power of forgiveness and resilience amidst unforeseen challenges. Grace Fox shares inspiring anecdotes from her life, including her missionary travels and the unexpected encounters that testify to ever-present divine communication and guidance, offering hope and renewed faith to listeners worldwide.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to the Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with the Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Grace Fox with the Good News. We are talking about her book, Fresh Hope for Today, Devotions for Joy on the Journey. And the devotion for today is always available. Hello there, friend.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hi. Good to talk to you again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, so, you know, I've been out of town and we were traveling with bigger groups of people, you know, bigger groups like volleyball teams and parents. And then we met up with different groups of friends and we stayed with some friends. And so anyway, I was around lots of different personalities on this vacation. And I just thought I'd throw it in there. I finally found one of I finally found a gift. that I have, you know, like you're always looking to see like, what gift do I really have besides the gift of gab, right? Okay, so you want to know what it is? I do. All right. Well, I know forgiveness is one of them, right? But I realized that I have the ability to let things go. So there were a couple of instances where there was like a little glitch in our vacation, right? Like, for instance, one of them was, the pool wasn't heating up to the heat that it should, right? And that was one of the main reasons we'd rented this particular house because it had a volleyball court, a basketball court, a swimming pool, a sauna, a cold plunge, a gym. And why are all those important? Because we have kids that play volleyball, basketball, and swim, like club sports, right? So we're like, oh, this is great. They can all do their workouts. They can work out in the gym, blah, blah, blah. Well, one of the kids is a swimmer, so he couldn't get in and do like his normal swimming, right? So then he had to go to like a swim team that was further away that we had to get permission for him to swim with them. And then, you know, the mom, of course, had to drive him there and drive him back into Vegas because we were outside of Vegas. Anyway, so to make a long story short. just other little things too like maybe the place we planned to go to eat was too far to walk or we couldn't get the you know um to a reservation to a particular place and i noticed that some people would get really like hung up on the glitch right and i'd be like i always teach my kids the sign of a leader is to be able to like move on and make the best of a situation and even As you know, having several children, like I have several children, being around that many kids, seeing how some kids would get angry and want to like ruin the whole experience for maybe 10 other people because they were upset or they didn't get their way. And so it was interesting to see the differences in our parenting compared to other parents we were traveling with. And then also, the big difference for me was like... Me realizing I could let things go and not focus on a negative or a problem. And I always tell my kids, like, there's always another way. Like, you can always figure out something, you know, to make things better or make the day brighter. Or, you know, the sign of a leader is to turn things around when you're disappointed, but to, you know, get a, you know, to find your better attitude, etc. And it really makes a difference, Grace, in the quality of your experience, not just on a vacation, but in life.
SPEAKER 06 :
Totally. That's one thing that we train short-term missionary teams in, is flexibility. And we just say, beat the wet noodle. Beat the wet noodle. You know, if stuff happens, it's beyond your control. You can't control what happens. You can't control what time the shuttle driver arrives to pick you up. You can't control the traffic that may have held that shuttle driver up. All of those things you can't control. But you can control... How you respond. And so that's the key. And be flexible. Be that wet noodle so that you don't break. You can break your own days.
SPEAKER 07 :
I love that because I always learn something from you. Like now I know I'll keep that. Like that be the wet noodle. Like that will stick and I'll mention that to my kids because I can visualize that. And it's such a great way of bending to the situation in order to make it better fit. And like you said, with the shuttle driver or whatever, I remember once we broke down in the middle of nowhere, barely had cell service. It was getting dark. We were on the side of a freeway in a canyon where we couldn't get very far off the road and it was starting to rain and they said they didn't have room in the tow truck for my kids but I couldn't leave them an hour from the closest town with barely any cell service and you know and then there was no rental car company in the town and then I rented a U-Haul and then drove my kids to the closest airport a few hours away where we could rent a different car and then I left the U-Haul and got the car but then I had to come back and get the U-Haul like Somehow we figured out how to get to Las Vegas for this giant shoe, you know, con or whatever that my son was. I mean, we also had a car loaded full of shoes that he was going to sell, like high end Nikes, you know, that you like resell. So I had to, you know, the U-Haul also worked for that. Right. So anyway. I was just trying to teach my kids on that trip, instead of losing my marbles and erupting in rage over the weird circumstances, and we kept hitting barriers at every turn, that there's a way to figure things out, even if it's a very complicated way. And I think our kids really watch us navigate these issues.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they do. They watch us in all things, but that especially. How we respond. There's two words, too, right? Respond or react. Because we can react negatively, we can react just on a whim. Something happens and boom, you know, we react. But we need to choose our response. And so much of that is determined by where our heart is in the first place.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
If we think that we are entitled to convenience, then we are going to react negatively when things don't go our way. But if we... believe that we're here to serve, and God rules over every detail of our lives, and nothing that happens takes Him by surprise, then we're better able to respond in a way that is mature. helps those around us to not panic or get scared or frustrated either.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, I don't know if this relates completely, but I was with this Uber driver recently on one of my trips and he was explaining to me because he's from the South and he was in the military that he says, sir and ma'am, and he had the best manners. And he said to me something to the effect of, yeah, last night, well, not everyone appreciates it, he said, Miss Angie. He said, I took an elderly couple home last night, and I said, ma'am, here's your suitcase, and sir, here's your suitcase. And the guy yelled at me, and he said, what's with this sir stuff? You know, what are you, what's up with all that? And he got angry with him. And he said, after this long 45-minute drive all the way up into the mountains, he didn't tip him. So then I... gave him a huge tip that was equal to like, let's say my drive was $30. I tipped him equal to that $30. And then I got a thank you note form from him. And I've never had a thank you note from an Uber driver, I guess they can say like, thanks for the tip. And so then it was Lyft, actually Lyft driver. But anyway, then I wrote him then I tipped him again, because I was like, wow, I mean, talk, I wanted to reward his good manners, you know, so I just was like, here he he was such a kind person and wasn't rewarded for it, and then he got over-rewarded for it.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, but people are hurting, and it's better to just bless. Whatever we can bless, let's do that.
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I love it. Whatever we can bless, let's do that. All right, so I took a different path there for a moment, but I want to get back to Grace's book, Fresh Hope, for today. Always available. Let's talk about this devotion.
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Yeah, so my husband and I travel internationally a lot. In fact, as we speak now, Angie, tomorrow I'll be on a plane to Poland. And so when we travel internationally, we often try to touch base with our family. And so, for instance, on this trip, in a few days, we're going to be trying to touch base with our oldest grandson because he's going to have his 16th birthday and we want to wish him a happy birthday. So there's different ways to do that with technology, right? There's cell phones, there's FaceTime, there's Zoom calls and WhatsApp and all the rest of these different things. So still, there are challenges because we might be in a place where our internet gets dropped and the call is cut short or whatever. Or it's just hard sometimes to make a connection because we'll be eight or nine hours ahead of our grandson and And we might be getting ready to go to bed, and he's in a class, or Sunday is his birthday. He might be in church or something when we're trying. Our schedule is 23, and we're able to talk to him, but he might not be available. So all of that to say, as much as we try to stay in communication with our family when we're overseas, it's tough. But there's never, never a situation where, we cannot communicate with God. Isn't that great? Like there's time differences. There's all that stuff involved, but we can always have 24 seven engagement and conversation with the Lord. And that's, that's just, he's always available. So I will call to you whenever I'm in trouble and you will answer me.
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You know, I think about one of my, I guess, radio friends, I would call it just like you, like we've never met in person, but we've been talking once a week on the phone for a couple of years now. And her name is Kenza Haddock. And she was she grew up in a family. They're all Muslims. And she didn't know anything about Christianity, Christ. But she was so depressed and she just called out for help. And guess who was available? the lord like she didn't even know anything about jesus she didn't know anything about christianity she didn't know that that was even an option for her but she felt in her soul this peace and she knew who it was and she became a devout christian and she's written several christian books now and she had to leave her family they still to this day many years later still try to kidnap her to bring her back even though she's married with children and she has her own business. She's a therapist and a Christian author. I mean, imagine always being available, but not even knowing who you're reaching out to when he's available.
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That happened to one of our co-workers. He too came from a Muslim family. He was in Syria several years ago and he ISIS took him off a bus.
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Oh, my goodness.
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And kidnapped him. They tortured him because he was a university student. And they wanted him to step out of his classes because he was studying social justice. That didn't sit well with them. And so they tortured him. And he was being moved from place to place. And at one point he cried out and he said, God, whoever you are, if you're real, get me out of this. And a fighter jet went overhead and bombed the prison this is within a day or something of his praying that and the walls were broken down he and the other uh people that had been kidnapped were able to escape and he said that it was about that time as well that he had a vision and somebody appeared to him and talked to him about you know i love you i've got a plan for you he didn't know who it was Until after he escaped, he got into Lebanon, and that's where he met up with somebody who was a believer who invited him to a church. And when he went into that church and he started listening to the Word of God preached, he understood that who he saw was Jesus. So he cried out, too, to God. He didn't even know he was crying out. He was like, God, wherever you are, you know, help me get out of this mess, if you're real. And God answered him. It is just the most amazing testimony for this young man.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. It's amazing. I mean, did not even know you were calling. We talk about always available. All right, we have about a minute left. What are you going to do in Poland? What are you doing there?
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I'm going to meet up with some of our co-workers. There's one Polish pastor and his wife. He is a church planter. And so they've set up about six speaking events for me where I'm going to go into a high school. I'm going to go into a public library, speak on the names of God, whoever wants to come. I'll be speaking at a couple of different churches and to a women's group, a group of homeless women, actually just sharing with them about overcoming fear. And then we're going to do two days of staff care training. And after that, we will do our annual staff conference. There's about 220 missionaries coming. And my goal then will just be to pour into their lives and encourage them, fill their cup so that they can stay on the field and be in a healthy situation mentally and emotionally, because a lot of them are dealing with the war in the Ukraine and, you know, all their lives have been flipped upside down because of war. So we just want to bless them and keep them strong.
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I don't even know if you know how amazing some of these experiences are that you have in these opportunities that the Lord presents to you. If you want to find Grace, GraceFox.com. Thank you, friend, and good luck in Poland.
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Thank you. We'll talk to you again when I get back.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. Excited to talk about the book Stay the Course with Catherine Pesor. And she is joining us to give us the lowdown, you know, help us get a little scripture into our lives today. Welcome, Catherine. Thank you, Angie. It's so good to be here. All right. Let's just start with an overview of the book, would you?
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Yes. Stay the Course is a devotional handbook to survive and thrive in your first year of college and beyond. And it's written for high school graduates to help them transition in the summer to get ready for college and then some advice and motivation and encouragement that they need to survive that first year because it's a critical time for them. So many of our students in their freshman year are just not prepared for the independence and the choices that they have to make and the study habits that they need they're just not quite ready for it sometimes and so this book is designed to help them through that first year to be successful you know i think about these kids because i've got three in high school right now and
SPEAKER 07 :
Pardon me. When you say, you know, they're not ready, I mean, they still are kids in so many aspects. I mean, even my son, who's 18, he's going to University of Colorado. He's leaving this summer, actually, to go to school for summer school. And he's so mature. He's been running his own business since he was 12. Pardon me. But with his sisters, he is like a 12-year-old. And his interactions sometimes with other kids his age leave a lot to be desired in terms of maturity. But he's so mature, comparatively speaking, to a lot of his contemporaries. So I can't imagine the skills some of these kids are going to school with or without, for that matter.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's a great example. I used to tell my college students that you are 12-year-olds or kindergartners trapped in an almost adult body because some of that adolescent behavior just pops out sometimes.
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Yeah, and I ask him why. I ask him why. I'm like, why do you do that? Like, you know, he's like poking a bear in a cage with his little sisters. I'm like, why? And then he gets this devilish grin and he says, because it's fun. oh no i know and some of them never outgrow that that's true his dad's like they're very similar maturity level those two oh my gosh it must have been 11 o'clock last night and my husband's wrestling with i have five pets wrestling with them in the bed while i'm like trying to sleep right and so he's throwing them around and they're jumping and they're barking and i'm like are you kidding me like it's 11 o'clock at night Let me go to bed so they come by naturally. All right. According to some studies I was reading in some of your material, between 70 and 80 percent of high school kids who enter college as Christians leave with little or no faith. That is scary. So talk to me about that.
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That is scary. And actually, I was not aware of that particular statistic until a friend pointed it out to me. And I believe it's because they are just bombarded with so many changes all at once. They're confronted with other peers, other students, and even with some adults, some of the professors that don't necessarily believe the way that they do. And they're exposed to a lot of information, a lot of knowledge, and I do believe that that it's important for our students to learn how other cultures lived and even other religions because the more knowledge we have and the more information that we have when we are suddenly bombarded with these beliefs that others are trying to persuade us towards. So I think it's important that we learn about other religions and other philosophies and the way people believe only though to build a knowledge base so that we can successfully defend our own faith, you know, be a not from the standpoint of apologizing, but from the standpoint of defending our faith and being confident in how we profess our faith openly. So when they're confronted by all these changing ideas and different ideas, they become vulnerable to new information because we go to college to learn new things. And then all of a sudden we're presented with these things. But our children, students, they're young adults by this time, they need such a strong foundation. And then they need us to be their parents and other adults that care about them to be praying for them and to be a listening ear when they call and say, hey, mom, dad, I heard this stuff today and it's confusing to me. You encourage them to go ahead and talk about it and let them know that we're praying for them because it's such a sudden change. All of a sudden they're leaving the security of their home and home church if they were are able to have a church family that supports them, they're leaving that and they're thrust into this new environment that everything's just so different.
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We need our prayer. I think about the University of Colorado where I went, and I'm not in the Bible belt like you are. And I didn't have groups of Christian friends then. And I think about my kids now and how many groups they're in that involve Christians, like the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Young Life, and then their own church youth group. And then Young Life, the kids have now kind of volunteered to do their own Bible study one day a week before school. So they get up at like 5.30 or 6 o'clock in the morning to do that on their own. Like my daughter did Fellowship of Christian Athletes this morning. So up at 530 and then she doesn't get home from practice until, I don't know, maybe 830. So it's a really long day for them to volunteer to get up early to do these things. So I was thinking about what I could have done differently at the University of Colorado. And so I just sent a text to my son while you were talking and said, stay in your Christian groups in college, birds of a feather flock together, because if they don't seek it out, it's not going to find them. They have to go to these groups where there are Christian kids and make friends with these kids. My son does that now. He's friends with kids at other high schools, and they go to these Christian groups together. And so he doesn't really have that many friends at his own high school, but he has friends in these other high schools that have these groups that he goes to. So if you can seek out those groups in college and start meeting other Christians, it's easier than trying to find the Christians in your classroom. Because there are going to be a lot more kids who aren't involved in going to church, etc. Then you will find kids doing it. So finding their groups is the easiest way to find them, I think.
SPEAKER 05 :
You are absolutely right. And thanks so much for pointing that out. And you're right in that they have to seek those groups out. And they are there. They might not be easily found, but there will be a list of all the organizations. The school will have a list of all of the organizations that are approved. And even in the community, they might find a church. in the community that has a college group that meets there once a week in the evenings or something that supports all of the college students too. So, yes, thank you for pointing that out.
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And I wonder too, you know, we just got back this weekend from seeing, I guess it was, three, but we kind of saw four Christian schools. My daughter's a volleyball player, and that league is called the NAIA League for the Christian Schools. And they're small, and a lot of them are in the middle of cornfields, et cetera. But what I like is that the Bible and Bible study and worship, that it is included in the school curriculum, and that the majority of the kids, they asked my daughter for her testimony as she was applying for the school. And so with the in fact, the coach at this last school she went to was a pastor for 14 years before he became a volleyball coach. And now he's been I think it's about the same that he's been coaching volleyball the same amount of time. So he asked Hope what they were studying, which scriptures or what book of the Bible they were studying in her Bible study. She goes, well, we don't have a leader anymore. So it's just us kids. So we'll just take a scripture and then we'll discuss it. So it was like, she couldn't really answer his white Bible. My husband's like, girl, you aren't very organized. She's like, well, we're just kids. We're just picking out scripture and we talk about it. We don't study the whole book of the Bible. They're just doing the best they can, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, good for them for taking the initiative to go out. And they can be so much of a good influence on other students who've not had that opportunity to grow up in a Christian home or have a support group like that. So it's wonderful that they're doing that, and I hope that they will witness to others.
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Well, I think for her, you know, if she does choose one of these Christian schools, it'll be easier than for my son, who's in a more secular environment. But what do you see as some of the reasons that these kids, these young people are dropping their faith in college?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they're at such a vulnerable age anyway, 18. Between being a child and being an adult, and they're struggling with with their freedom, all of a sudden that they have all these choices and temptations and no one to tell them, well, I don't think you should really be doing that. No one to get them up in the morning. And they're just suddenly exposed to so many other opportunities and not all of them are good.
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So their, their views that they've grown up with are suddenly challenged. And unless they have that really, really strong foundation, that sounds like that your children do. And that's wonderful. But so many of our students don't have that strong background. And so they become confused by all these conflicting information that they're getting. And they don't know which way to turn. That's why it's so important, as you've encouraged your children, is to find those groups and have your own support group. Because once they become aware that there are other ways of believing, unless they have the strong foundation and the knowledge... to refute those new philosophies and beliefs that they've been exposed to, then they're going to sink into it and be absorbed into that different viewpoint. And then they'll discover that there's all these other opportunities of things that are really not so good that they never would have been doing before, but then all of a sudden they're recognizing, well, you know, there's nobody here to tell me what to do. I can make my own choices. And at that age, Some of their own choices are not good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, right. And let's talk a little about that because we're trying to prepare our kids as they head off, you know, college and to have, you know, a moral compass and self-discipline and know that there's a time for them to have fun, a time to study. What are some of the experiences that you've had with students who were unprepared for college and the environment?
SPEAKER 05 :
We like to believe that we've taught our students, our children, everything we need to know before we send them off, but we can't prepare for every eventuality. And what I have found that students have the most difficulty coping with is their independence because then all of a sudden they can set their own schedule, they can decide whether they're going to school or not, and if something else tempts them away from that, they may make the wrong choice and go into whatever that temptation is. But when I've worked, I've worked with students, college students over 25 years, and one of the things that they really struggled with is self-discipline and time management because no one's telling them what to do. They make their own schedule. So I would just remind them, you know, go to class every time, every time, even if you're not... haven't done your homework, go to class and always be prepared and keep up with your assignments. Hang in there and do them. And if someone tries to tempt you away from doing what you need to do to be academically successful, then that person is really not being your friend because you have come to this university or this college to do set your path for your future career. And anything that comes between you and that goal is not going to be a positive thing for you. If someone's trying to keep you from going to class, if somebody's trying to invite you to go out to eat when you should be studying for your exam, or if someone's inviting you to participate in activities that are unhealthy or immoral, then you are the one that has to make the choice as to whether or not you're going to let the short-term decision affect your long-term goal or not. So I try to get them to look ahead to the future and not decide, well, I don't need to go to this class and study for this test because I'll have another opportunity later. It doesn't work that way in college. Every single decision that they make academically will affect their final outcome.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I certainly appreciate your expertise. The book is called Stay the Course, Catherine Pesor. And I just really appreciate you. What a blessing to have you on the program. It's obviously very timely for me and hopefully for some of you listening who have kids and or grandkids who are going to be heading off to college or you're just preparing them right now. Thank you, Catherine. You are welcome.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
In this episode, host Tony Perkins dives deep into the pressing issue of budget reconciliation as President Trump works to advance his agenda. Key discussions unfold around the House and Senate's ongoing negotiations and the potential implications for taxpayers, featuring insights from Congressman Warren Davidson and others. The spotlight is also on domestic terrorism concerns as attacks against Tesla dealerships rise, prompting calls for FBI intervention.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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The next job is budget reconciliation. That is number one on President Trump's priority list now to get Congress to work together with him to pass that one big beautiful bill that we've been talking about.
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That was House Majority Leader Steve Scalise earlier today. Welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Here's what's coming up on this Tuesday edition. House and Senate Republicans are meeting to hash out differences on reconciliation, an essential part of President Trump's policy agenda. We'll get insights from Ohio Congressman Warren Davidson, a member of the House Financial Services Committee.
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They're really terrorists when you think about it. They're terrorists at a high level. And I think the people that are financing them, they could very well be people I know, people that you write about. But those people are in big trouble.
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So they better cut it out. That was President Trump yesterday at his cabinet meeting, speaking on the recent attacks targeting Tesla dealerships and owners. Lawmakers are calling on the FBI to investigate these acts as acts of domestic terrorism. Joining us later to discuss the response is Arizona Congressman and former Freedom Caucus Chairman Andy Biggs. Plus, Congress is preparing to rein in activist judges, overreaching their authority as they seek to derail President Trump's agenda.
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In the last 100 years, listen to this, 67% of the injunctions issued against a president were issued against one president alone, and that's Donald J. Trump. So something unusual is happening, something that is out of the norm. It is a dangerous trend, and it violates equal justice under law, that critical principle. It violates our system itself.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson. We'll explore the remedies later on this edition of Washington Watch. And remember Atlanta Fire Chief Kelvin Cochran? He was fired for conducting a Bible study that made a brief reference to human sexuality in marriage. Or Jacob Kersey, a young police officer in Georgia, terminated for posting scripture about marriage on his Facebook page. Well, now Georgia lawmakers are advancing a Religious Freedom Restoration Act that would protect the right of citizens to live out their biblical faith. We'll hear from the bill's author, Georgia State Senator Ed Stetzler, and Jacob Kersey, now a part of the FRC Action Team. Also, just a quick reminder, session six of our God and Government course is now out. This series combines biblical principles with historical insights to offer a practical approach to government. The latest episode covers the legislative and judicial branches and the power of the jury. You can find it exclusively on the StandFirm app. If you don't have the StandFirm app, well, text the word COURSE to 67742. That's COURSE to 67742. All right, the pressure is on for the Senate to take up a House-passed budget resolution which aims to satisfy many of President Trump's agenda items. House GOP members are pushing their Senate colleagues to pass this resolution in full. But the Senate is saying that it will take some time, months maybe. to do so. The leadership of the two chambers are supposed to be meeting to discuss a way forward. So how will the timing of this affect the president's agenda, in particular the tax cuts which are set to expire? Here to discuss this is Congressman Warren Davidson. He serves as a member of the House Financial Services Committee. He's also a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee. He represents Ohio's 8th Congressional District. Congressman Davidson, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. It's always an honor. Thank you, Tony. So let's talk about the House has done the heavy lifting here. It's now up to the Senate. What are you hearing?
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Well, the Senate passed a bill actually first. Lindsey Graham, as a budget chairman, passed a bill that essentially anticipates a two-step process. And the House came after that and said, no, it's going to be one big, beautiful bill, just like the president asked for. And now you hear some senators trying to slow walk this. Well, maybe we can get this done before August and taking away the sense of urgency. I think there are a lot of us that are concerned that we shouldn't be talking about anything but staying on offense. There shouldn't be any effort to slow down the president's agenda or to slow the momentum that we're building towards saving money for taxpayers. And so the discussions are ongoing right now, and I think Senator Thune and Speaker Johnson are going to set a different tone than that slow-walking verbalization that's been taking place in the Senate.
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So let's talk about some of the practical implications here. You mentioned one of them, saving money, because a part of this agenda is to scale back the size and scope of government. But we also, as some of that money is shifted around, we're talking about border security, we're talking about national security, but we're also talking about this being the vehicle by which the Trump tax cuts, which he did in his first term, are extended. What's the timeline for that?
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Well, look, some of the Trump tax reform has already expired. A lot of those are business provisions like the ability to deduct research and development. You want companies making their investments in America, not holding that research and development dollars outside the United States. Same with capital expenditures and interest deductibility. That's actively shaping our business climate today. And those have already expired. So we need to get that passed as soon as possible. But the individual provisions, if we don't take action this year, nearly every American who pays taxes will see a tax increase. And that's what's at stake. We're really continuation of policy on that. And then lastly, Donald Trump on tax policy made some promises like no tax on tips. And for us to do that, it takes a change in law. And so that's kind of its own standalone bill that could probably pass as a bipartisan bill by itself. uh... because there are democrats who say they support no tax on tips as well but the things that are truly partisan ultimately need to go in the reconciliation bill and what has become partisan that used to be bipartisan is things like not wasting money uh... and even the government accountability office says over a hundred billion dollars in medicaid and medicare are going to improper payments so why would we see people defending improper payments why would we let another year go by when we fail to act. We should pass something to reform this immediately.
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Congressman, as you mentioned, the Senate passed a bill actually before the House, their own version of a budget resolution, but it was a two-step process. So if they move so quickly on that first bill, why would it take so long to move on the second one?
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Well, the consensus on the first bill is pretty much there. So that's why it was easier. It wasn't necessarily as ambitious on the savings on the one hand and on the other. It had spending attached to it. And that seems to be what the Senate likes is spending. And so we do need to. increase funding for border security, and we need to increase funding for defense in a way that's laser-focused on America's national security, whereas the previous administration was squandering all kinds of dollars on all sorts of other things. So those are part of Senator Graham's approach. they're anticipated to be part of the house approach as well uh... but we also set the stage to deal with tax reform the senate hasn't yet gotten there and that's part of why they want to slow walk it in the senate doesn't have the same sense of urgency on tax reform in part because there are no blue state senators and we have colleagues in the republican conference in the house that make our majority that come from states like New York and New Jersey and California, where there is a sense of urgency to deal with the high state and local tax issues they're confronting.
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Now, also, as you talk about the Senate bill increasing the spending for defense and border, the House also does that, but it's offset by reductions, is it not?
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Yeah, that's the that's the commitment that the House does is, you know, we set a higher goal for spending and we basically put a floor at one and a half trillion. And it's like, great if we can save more. But it also puts the burden to say, hey, if we're going to save money on tax reform for the American people, we still need revenue into the government. Let's make sure that we keep the tax reform in line with the ability to deliver savings from ongoing government spending. They shouldn't be completely decoupled. The Senate really, I think, has got a lot of momentum behind the idea that you're going to treat the tax bill the same way you treat spending, which is continuation of policy doesn't necessarily require a Congressional Budget Office score. And that's the case for spending. But CBO wants to give the continuation of the current tax policy on income tax levels as an expense. And the reality is that would treat tax differently than spending. And I think a lot of people are for mutually assured destruction. If you wanna give them a score, then you gotta give both a score, or you just agree that we're not gonna give either of them a score. And that really changes what's possible with this bill.
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Now, this reconciliation is by way of reminder for our viewers and listeners that this is able to be accomplished without any democratic support, correct?
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Yeah, and look, this isn't like the only time it's been done. Democrats did this with the American Rescue Plan and with the Inflation Reduction Act. It's known as the Budget Reconciliation. And it's historically created back in the 70s, Budget Control Act of 1974, to deal with mandatory spending, things like Social Security, Medicare, the Great Society programs, the Social Safety Net programs. We don't have a fixed amount of food stamps. If you qualify, the food stamps are available, or SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. So those kinds of things are available. And you rarely do those because you don't put them into regular appropriations. But you can also blend discretionary spending. And a lot of people want to keep those separate and say, no, no, you've got to do them separate. And that, to be fair, was the anticipated use of the Budget Control Act of 1974 But it's not a theory. I mean, Democrats really did blend the two, both in American Rescue Plan and Inflation Reduction Act. And both the House and Senate bill do blend some level of discretionary and mandatory spending, like defense, like border. Or in the case of Democrats, the Green New Deal was heavily funded for climate change initiatives in the regular discretionary budget. So this kind of gets down into the weeds of what the American people are talking about in terms of how Congress operates versus what they expect. And I think with the momentum, people are saying, okay, you know, Doge and all this attention, we're less worried about Elon Musk and, you know, the team of cyber people that they've put in place to find this stuff out than we are about the stuff we're finding out. You're like, you're wasting our money on what? Let it go to the cause and not to the things that are out there. And we can deliver some savings for people. In the meantime, the Trump administration isn't spending the money, but we want to be able to get after it and direct it towards things that we do need spending on.
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Right. Congressman, we just have two minutes left. I want to throw you a curveball. I want to change directions here. You're also on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. A lot happening internationally right now. I mean, the world's still kind of on fire as the Trump administration trying to put out the fires from the Biden administration. What do we need to be watching right now?
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Well, President Trump campaigned essentially no new wars. He did that in his first administration. He was pushing for peace, and he's working towards that in Ukraine. Unfortunately, it seems like the two parties, the principal, Russia and Ukraine, who are at war with one another, have kind of walked away from some negotiations in Saudi Arabia. And it's interesting that they're holding these negotiations in Saudi Arabia because Iran is such a threat to the peace and stability in the Middle East, their proxies, the Houthis, their proxies, Hamas, their proxies, Hezbollah, are really the ones driving a lot of conflict and just the 10-7 massacre in Israel. So, so much goes back to Israel in terms of providing peace. So, it's interesting that Saudi Arabia has placed themselves as a center for not just resolving the conflict in the broker a piece in Saudi Arabia.
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Very, very, very interesting as all this unfolds. Congressman Warren Davidson, always great to see you. Thanks so much for taking time to join us today. Yeah, thanks, Tony. God bless you and all your viewers. Thanks so much. I know, folks, it's kind of in the weeds, but I think I want you to be informed and educated about what's going on. This is going to be a detailed and lengthy process as we work through the reconciliation, but I also want you to know what's happening internationally. So many issues. You've got to keep... You know, as we look at Scripture, as we're reading what is going to be unfolding in the final days, I mean, we see a lot of that happening. So we need to keep our eye on what's happening abroad. All right, don't go away. When we come back, Congressman Andy Biggs joins us to talk about domestic terrorists. That's next. Don't go away.
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At Family Research Council, we believe religious freedom is a fundamental human right that all governments must protect. That's why FRC President Tony Perkins went to Capitol Hill to testify on behalf of persecuted Christians in Nigeria. Islamist terror groups target Christians and other religious minorities in Nigeria with brutal violence. Representative Chris Smith, who chaired the hearing, said 55,000 people have been killed and 21,000 abducted in the last five years alone. The congressman also stressed that 89% of Christians in the world who are martyred are from Nigeria.
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Yet the government of Nigeria has failed to make progress against religiously motivated persecution of Christians despite religious freedom being enshrined as an essential human right in their constitution.
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This is systematic religious violence. Nigeria must be redesignated a country of particular concern. The Biden administration's removal of this designation was a reckless mistake that emboldened the very terrorists who are slaughtering Christians.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. All right, yesterday, the FBI, under the leadership of Director Kash Patel, launched a task force to address the nationwide crime wave against Tesla dealerships, vehicles, and charging stations. Since Tesla CEO Elon Musk started his doge purge of federal employees and wasteful spending, there have been numerous reports of activities like arson, vandalism, and gunshots. In his announcement of the task force, Director Patel went as far as calling the acts domestic terrorism. Well, Congress is weighing in as well, calling for FBI action. Joining me now to discuss this and more, Congressman Andy Biggs, a member of the House Judiciary Committee and the Committee House Oversight and Government Reform. He's also on the Judiciary Committee as the chairman of the Subcommittee on Crime and Federal Government Surveillance. He represents the 5th Congressional District of Arizona. Chairman Biggs, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks, Tony. Good to be with you.
SPEAKER 17 :
So you sent a letter to Director Patel last week on this very issue. Your reaction to his launching of this task force?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I'm glad he's doing it. It's necessary. What we're seeing is just incredible criminality. It actually rises to the level of domestic terrorism, and it's spreading. It's getting worse. You actually have members of Congress who foment this violence, and then they say, we're not doing any of that stuff. You've got comedians, you've got television personalities all getting out there and fomenting this anti-Doge, anti-Elon, anti-Tesla sentiment, and it's taking a lot of people in its wake.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now, you know, you can call this violence, but you've been very clear about this and Kash Patel making references as domestic terrorism. What makes it domestic terrorism?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, domestic terrorism is defined very clearly. It's when you violate any federal or state law, and you're doing it to either impact a politician or an elected official, or even if you're attacking it, basically... community or a group of people you're trying to influence them by intimidating them uh through your your activities and so what we have here is there's there's vandalism they're doxing people they're coming out uh i saw a video recently a guy literally pulls his car over in the middle of a highway to stop a car and go up and berate the person so These types of threatening and intimidating acts violate state law, and then they're being done to what? To intimidate the public, to change public policy, to impact people. That's pretty classical according to the definition of domestic terrorism.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm wondering if the Southern Poverty Law Center has identified any of this activity as domestic terrorism.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, you and I are both smiling at that, Tony, because we both know that the SPLC is so totally woke and leftist that they would welcome almost. I don't know what their position is, but they're certainly not saying anything about this. As far as I can tell, I haven't found anything where they're condemning this. And it's kind of like what Senator Mike Lee said. Can't we get a single Democrat to condemn this kind of violence instead of encouraging it? And, you know, look for March 29th. That's when one of my colleagues has called for taking down Tesla and Elon Musk.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Let me ask you about that. Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett fanning the flames for this violence, but she insists she's she's promoting nonviolence. I mean, are they not aiding and abetting terrorism? I mean, isn't that criminal activity?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, but here's the thing, Tony. The domestic terrorism statute, it actually was really clear. There's no aiding and abetting there. If you are actually inciting this kind of violence, you yourself are violating the domestic terrorism statute. So I think if you are doing that and a court were to find that you were doing it, you would have this criminal culpability. So I think Pam Bondi, the attorney general, when she said that, that Representative Crockett really probably needed to watch very carefully what she's saying. I think that was a very open and transparent warning that you're very close to crossing the line if you haven't already crossed the line.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, could you foresee the Department of Justice taking action against one of your colleagues that's inciting terrorism?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I guess I could. I mean, if you have somebody who is actually inciting terrorism and encouraging this kind of conduct, then you violate the law. Because the free speech of Americans only runs into boundaries when you are inciting violence and causing that kind of trouble. I mean, if you're threatening, intimidating, by words, if you have someone to say, I'm going to kill you, or go out and burn down a Tesla, or if you don't sell your car, I'm going to come at you, Guess what? That language in and of itself is not protected speech by any state statute that I know of because the Uniform Criminal Code, which has been adopted by almost every state, would prohibit that. And no court is going to protect that speech either.
SPEAKER 17 :
So let's talk about other cases that are non-Tesla related that the FBI should be looking into that may cross into this area of domestic terrorism. Are we seeing other things that the left is doing?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, but right now their focus is almost exclusively on anything related to Elon Musk. So they've made threats on his life. But one of the other things that you've got is when you have some of these town halls, that they're in person, we can't do them in my district because of the threats. I don't worry about my own personal safety so much, but I do worry about the safety of those who are coming because they truly want to participate in a town hall. But with the threats being made towards my staff, my family, and these people, they really cross the line. and i know that this to the fact because tony when i first got elected we actually were doing life town halls and we had to have We had to have undercover police next to my family. We had the whole back of the arena, for instance, was filled with sheriffs and down front because there were so many threats to me, my family, and the public. And that's when we said, look, you know what? I could stand up and smile, but that's great. But what about these people that are coming because they were berating people who simply wanted to get up and ask a question?
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Alarming. Andy Biggs, always great to see you. Thanks for joining us. My pleasure, Tony. Thank you. All right, Congressman Andy Biggs of Arizona. All right, more Washington Watch on the other side of the break, so don't go away. We'll be right back after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Earlier today, House Speaker Mike Johnson gave context to the growing concern of judicial overreach.
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Last 100 years, listen to this, 67% of the injunctions issued against a president were issued against one president alone, and that's Donald J. Trump. So something unusual is happening, something that is out of the norm. It is a dangerous trend, and it violates equal justice under law, that critical principle. It violates our system itself.
SPEAKER 17 :
So what's happening? And we talked a little bit about this yesterday, but it's quite significant. So you have those that are going after executive actions by the Trump administration that are doing what's called venue shopping. They're looking for a favorable judge in some part of the country to take their case to, to try to stop the executive order. We just saw another one come out on the transgender in the military. But what generally happens is that a judge will issue an injunction for the parties that are standing before them. So if it's your case, they issue an injunction so that this executive order does not affect you or affect those that live within the region or the jurisdiction of that court. But what we're seeing now, we're seeing these nationwide injunctions, so that a federal judge in a particular district is making a decision for the entire country, basically serving as their own president, taking actions that affect national security, our defense, even foreign policy. Joining me now to talk more about this is our Friday host and former Congressman Jody Heiss. Jody, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Great to be with you, Tony, as always.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is. And many of your colleagues, both on the House and the Senate side, are introducing bills that would address this issue. But this seems like a moment in time where we may actually see something get done on this. This is not a new issue, but it seems to have reached a critical point.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and that is the point. We have watched what many have referred to as judicial activism literally for decades take place, but it is ratcheted up several notches at this point to where it is interfering with an administration, with a mandate given by the American people, and it's all seemingly for no other reason other than political interference, trying to stop the agenda of this current administration. And so, you know, I mean, what do you want to call this? Judicial terrorism? I mean, this is absolute interference from the judicial branch, at least as far as I'm concerned, into the agenda mandate of this administration.
SPEAKER 17 :
And this is something, as I made reference to, that has been growing over time, where it's obviously they're triggered by this president and wanting to stop his agenda. But the courts have been playing this for quite some time, taking on the role that is not theirs.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's exactly right. And I think we're at the point, and I'm personally glad to hear at least some discussion about potentially impeaching some of these judges. This will continue until someone puts a stop to it. And at some point, judges need to understand that they are not elected individuals. They are not there to be legislators. They are there to abide by the law. And to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law, but they are not in a position to put forth legislation from the bench and from their positions and until someone is reprimanded for getting out of line in that. I'm afraid this type of thing happens. So obviously, when you're dealing with impeachment, that is a huge, huge things, nothing to be taken lightly. But where there are judges that are out rightly going outside their judicial jurisdiction and legislating from the bench, they need to be corrected and perhaps impeachment has finally seen a time to move forward.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now, this cuts both ways, because there was some of this during the Biden administration where people went to favorable jurisdictions to try to get injunctions. Now, oftentimes those conservative justices, they confined their decisions to their own jurisdiction. They did not do the overreach, although I think there may have been one or two. Do you think Democrats will support this? Are they so fixated on stopping Donald Trump that they don't want to see a remedy to a problem that sometimes cuts both ways?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think that's exactly what we'll see from the Democrats. They have one seemingly it looks like they have one platform. bullet point, and that is hate Trump, stop Trump. That's all they're for. So I would not see them at this point in any shape, form, or fashion taking any action to rein in the judiciary. I think they will be thrilled for it to continue so long as it is stopping the agenda of the current administration.
SPEAKER 17 :
So you think that Trump derangement syndrome will keep them from voting for constraints on the courts?
SPEAKER 04 :
You think? Yeah, I absolutely think that.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Jody Heiss, thanks so much for joining us. Always great to see you. Great to see you, Tony.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Well, another issue to pray about. You know, the courts, they're important. We have the checks and balances, but they've got to stay within their lanes. And clearly we see some of the courts crossing over. getting into the lanes of others. All right, coming up, we're going to talk about an effort by Georgia lawmakers to protect religious freedom in the Peach State. This is important. They're one of only two states in the South that do not have protections for religious freedom, known as the RFRA, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. We're going to talk about that next, so don't go away.
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SPEAKER 06 :
You know, Tony, for generations, judges in Georgia have been very kind to people of faith. You know, there's this sense that because there have not been these big explosions, these big problems around us, that everything's okay. What folks don't realize, though, is because of that, the legislature has never enacted by statute into law the basic religious protections that all citizens honestly think they have. I mean, the First Amendment of the United States Constitution was shown in 1997 to not apply to folks at the state level unless states enact state-level religious protections. And that's what we're looking to do. Again, 39 states around the nation have done this or have these protections in place. And we can no longer assume that for the generations to come, judges will just give deference to folks of faith. We need to have these laws. We need to have these protections put firmly into law.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, Senator Setzler, you've seen that there in Georgia. I recall not too long ago, fire chief in Atlanta, Kelvin Cochran, who did a Bible study for his church, and he was fired because they didn't like the fact that it made reference to human sexuality and marriage between a man and a woman. I mean, would someone like that be protected under this law?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act really focuses primarily on folks that come into contact with government. If you're a private employee, it wouldn't have quite as an impact. But there are circumstances. Again, in Chief Cochran's circumstance, he was an employee of the city of Atlanta. Other circumstances in which, you know, governments, laws and policies trample on the rights of people of faith. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act is not an exemption, it's not a guarantee, but it does provide a very, very important balancing test that as judges weigh the duties of government against the religious rights of people, that the religious rights of people are given the due weight and emphasis that they deserve. that our founders intended for them to have. And candidly, most citizens already think they have. But when they get into the weeds and realize these protections are not in place, overwhelmingly citizens believe that the balancing test that RFRA provides is fair and can be applied broadly in Canada. There's many blue states that have this. It's not only in others. It's something that's important to have no matter what your background is.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I think it is important to point out that this is not a blank check to do whatever you want to do. It is simply protecting those fundamental First Amendment freedoms, in particular religious freedom. As you said, there's a federal RFRA Act, but the states have to have their own to protect from state action. So give us the status of this, Senator. Where does this bill stand in the process and what's needed to get it across the line?
SPEAKER 06 :
We were delighted that Governor Brian Kemp worked with us as legislators to craft a bill that matches the federal language. The same protections we have from the federal government need to be enacted by state legislatures to protect you from cities, counties, school boards, public universities. Governor Brian Kemp's team was very helpful. They drafted the language with us. That's the bill we passed, passed through the Senate committee, passed the state senate. And I have confidence the House is going to act on it and protect the integrity of Governor Brian Kemp's language. It's just in the process. There's some back and forth in making that happen, and we're right in the throes of getting those details right.
SPEAKER 17 :
I understand that there was a hearing last week in committee, I think in the House side, and there was some efforts to amend it. It hasn't advanced. So what's the next step and how can our listeners and viewers in Georgia weigh in on this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, first of all, I think they need to thank their legislators. We've got legislative leaders in the House that care about this issue. Sometimes as you're working through the details, in spite of having 16 powerful speakers on behalf of this from all faith backgrounds, from all ethnic backgrounds, people of color, people of all backgrounds and faiths came and spoke on behalf of this. Sometimes things get a little bit confused in committee. What I'm confident we will see, though, Tony, and what I think folks would encourage their legislators to do is don't get sidetracked by sort of deceptive good ideas. You know, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act has 32 years of proven history. The bill we're passing or seeking to pass mirrors that language exactly. To not be distracted by any diversions, but let's stay with proven language that has the support of our governor. that has the support of our Senate, and I think our House leadership, again, is gonna strongly support this. We've gotta get the details right, and we're taking the time to do that, and I would like to thank leaders really at every level for being a part of that.
SPEAKER 17 :
So the message would be for our viewers and listeners in Georgia to contact their representatives to thank them for supporting religious freedom, first off, but to support Senate Bill 36 as it passed the Senate, that they would adopt that same language in the House. Is that the message?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, sir. Reach out to them kindly. This is not something to be ugly about. Reach out to them kindly and remind them that people of faith from all backgrounds will support them. This is being made controversial by the radical left. This is policy that supports everyone and that people of faith will stand behind their elected officials if they take the right step and act wisely and boldly in passing the federal language that Governor Brian Kemp supports.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. And just to make a footnote here on that original federal language that passed in the 90s that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats were a large part of this. This was a bipartisan bill. In fact, I think just a couple of votes against it back then, religious freedom was not controversial. Before I let you go, Senator, House bill that the Republicans are trying to pass addresses the issue of biological males in female sports. The Senate has its version, Senate Bill 1. Can you give us a quick read on that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think there's strong support in both chambers that biological males won't be able to compete in girls' sports, won't be able to be in girls' locker rooms at the high school and college level. The courage we've seen Riley Gaines show nationwide over the last couple of years has been noteworthy to people. The circumstance in which Riley Gaines had to compete against males and stand 18 inches from a fully undressed male in a locker room actually happened here in Georgia at Georgia Tech during the NCAA championships back in 2023. It's not a theoretical issue to us. It's real. It's something that people in Georgia, I think, across the spectrum can get behind.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, Senator, I thank you for joining us today. I appreciate your leadership on such important issues as religious freedom and the ability to live our lives according to our faith. So thanks for joining us. Thank you, Tony, very much. Well, as he talked about, this is not theoretical. These are real issues. Well, I thought it'd be helpful to understand the impact that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act would have on the citizens of Georgia, as Senator Stetzler laid out. Now, I can cite two real-life examples, as I mentioned, the one of former Atlanta Fire Chief Kelvin Cochran, who was fired for writing a Bible study devotional for men at his church. Totally unrelated to his job. But the city of Atlanta found out about it, and those on the city council who were afraid of the homosexual lobby fired him. Now, with the aid of ADF, he did win a lawsuit, but it took years and his career was ended. Then more recently, there was a Georgia police officer, Jacob Kersey, who posted scripture about marriage on his personal Facebook page. He was suspended, told he could not make such statements in the future if he wanted to be a police officer. He said he wanted to remain true to Scripture. However, he is now operations coordinator for FRC Action, and he joins me now in studio. Jacob, thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thanks for having me on again, Tony. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 17 :
So let's talk a little bit about this Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Had that been in place when you were a police officer in Georgia, you would have had greater leverage in... defending your position to speak freely out of your biblical beliefs. I assume that you are encouraged to see that Georgia is now taking this step to protect people of faith.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, when it happened to me, when my police department placed me on administrative leave after leading me to believe I had been fired because of my off-duty Facebook post, which paraphrased Ephesians 5, I began looking for options like, well, am I protected here? Because I would think the first event would apply, religious liberty, freedom of speech, and I realized Georgia didn't have RFRA. People at the time were telling me that, well, other states have this, but Georgia does not have it. So you don't have all the same protections as other states that have a Religious Freedom Restoration Act. So already I was concerned and disheartened that my home state of Georgia, that I love so much, did not have this in place. So I was limited on my options. And also it gave the police department, if the police department knew that Georgia had a referendum in place, they probably wouldn't have taken the adverse actions against me that they took. And so when I saw the news that Georgia, the legislators there were introducing this, I was excited, thrilled, and I'm hopeful that there are protections put in place, clean protections through this RFRA in the governor's original language that would protect future employees like myself, like Kelvin Cochran, Chief Cochran there in Atlanta from having these adverse reactions or being fired because of their faith.
SPEAKER 17 :
So let me ask you about that, because I mean, I'm glad it's there. I'm glad we have a federal statute. I'm thankful that over half the states have these. Many states have them. But you knew that when you were given the option, you were suspended and you were told, if I'm not mistaken, that you could return if you agreed that in the future you would post no such things again on your personal Facebook page. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. They told me I could quote scripture verbatim, but I could not offer any commentary, any sermon, any explanation of what Ephesians chapter 5 meant.
SPEAKER 17 :
Which is an expression of what biblical beliefs are. Essentially, check your faith at the door when you come to work. So you knew that, but yet you decided that you were going to take a stand for truth and not compromise in order to keep your position as a police officer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, they essentially told me, you know, you can resign, or if you want to come back, you need to sign this paper that you understand and you agree to what we've talked about in these meetings, and that is that you will only post Scripture verbatim. And off-duty comments that state what Scripture means, even if it's not on social media, we could fire you for that. Remember, you're still in your probationary period. So they gave me an ultimatum. You come back and you say anything else someone considers offensive again, we'll fire you, or you can just go ahead and resign now. And I didn't want to play political games with the police department when I was supposed to be protecting and serving that community. So I made a very difficult decision to resign.
SPEAKER 17 :
Those are difficult. I know exactly what that is like. And increasingly, there are men and women of faith that are faced with that choice. Even if you have RFRAs in place, as Senator Settler was making the point, is that it's not a carte blanche. It's a defense that you use in court. But we have to know what we believe. And when Jesus said, if you want to be to my disciple, you need to deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow me. And sometimes that means laying down our dreams and our aspirations of what we want to do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Jesus said, if you deny me before men, I will deny you before the Father. And so when I was called into the room before my command staff and they wanted me to remove a post that talks about God's design for marriage and how it is a reflection of Christ and his love for the church, I just couldn't do it, knowing that if I deny him then, he could deny me before the Father. So at the end of the day, it's more important for Christians to stand for their faith and stand for Christ above anything. But I'm certainly glad to see that here in America, we do have protections in place RFRAs like this.
SPEAKER 17 :
And we can also, I think, agree that God is faithful. When we follow him, he does not forsake us. Amen. Well, Jacob, thank you for joining us today, providing a little color commentary to the importance of laws like the RFRA being introduced in Georgia.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Tony.
SPEAKER 17 :
Appreciate it. All right. Jacob Kersey, who is a part of the FRC Action Team, the sister organization of FRC. And so I do want to encourage you, if you live in Georgia, to weigh in on the Senate bill, Senate Bill 36. Encourage your House members to support the original language that passed the Senate and is being entertained in the House. And pray for its success there in Georgia, if you don't live in Georgia. And for all of us, we need to be bold in living out our faith, not intimidated by the those who would criticize our faith, or those who would want to silence us. We cannot shrink back into the shadows. We need to stand boldly and speak the truth of God, no matter what. And I leave you, once again, with the encouraging words the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6, where he says just that. You've done everything you can do when you've prayed, when you've prepared, and when you've taken your stand. By all means, keep standing.
SPEAKER 12 :
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In this gripping episode of Sekulow, Logan Sekulow and the panel delve into the latest breaking news concerning President Trump's reaction to a significant national security leak. Joined by experts and key voices, including former Director of National Intelligence Rick Grinnell, the discussion unravels the complex scenario involving top U.S. security officials and an inadvertent leak involving the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic. As the conversation evolves, we witness a critical analysis of the ramifications across the political spectrum and the potential consequences for those involved.
SPEAKER 03 :
We got breaking news. President Trump breaks his silence on Mike Waltz after national security leak.
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. This is Logan Sekulow. Will Haines joining me in studio and former director of national intelligence. Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us a little bit later in the broadcast. Of course, we have to talk about the big news over the last 24 hours as that leak happened. I'm sure you guys have all already heard. This was a text thread on Signal that somehow had our top security advisors, our top team discussing plans for the war with the Houthis. And added to that was the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic. Is that correct? That's right, yes. Jeffrey Goldberg. Jeffrey Goldberg. So that happened, and he waited until after, then reported it, showed the screenshots, and then the fallout happened from there. How did it happen? We're not sure. We don't know all the details yet. But we do know that there is a lot happening right now. There is currently right now, there is a hearing right now that was already scheduled. Will told me this already scheduled an Intel hearing with all the national security advisors, with Tulsi Gabbard, with Kash Patel, a whole list of people. And of course, this is starting to come up in that conversation of what that's going to look like. What are the ramifications? What are the consequences, if you will? There's a lot of talk on Mike Waltz, who, again, has been a friend of this show. I've done work with him. Seems like a great guy. But it may have been, you know, if you're going to blame someone, it may have been that he was to blame for this situation. President Trump, though, has made a statement about Mike Waltz, I'm sure, that he was talked to. I'm sure this was a discussion that happened. But again, Will, what's that statement say?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. It comes from President Trump to NBC News that Michael Waltz has learned a lesson and he's a good man and also that he expressed confidence in his team and said he was not frustrated by the events leading up to the Atlantic story. in that he said there was the only glitch in two months and it turned out to not be a serious one. So he is standing by his team as the Democrats are like sharks circling, feeling like this is their moment to try and capitalize and tear down some of the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 03 :
They are already pushing for the entire team that was on this thread, which, by the way, had some pretty heavy hitters. on this thread probably you can't probably can't get any bigger other than not having president trump directly on it that's right it had the vice president of the united states the secretary of defense cia director director of national intelligence many advisors and the editor-in-chief of the atlantic now if we're going to gleam anything good off of this if you read the text messages the first thing i told will here was you know what i like to see I like to see that these departments and these people are all actually working together and have a cordial relationship and having interesting conversations, are batting around ideas, are discussing plans in a way that I don't think is very Washington. And that's what helps. Look, you're going to have the negative, which is stuff like this is going to happen. But the positive is we can actually look and see on the record that this group of people, a lot of them under the age of 45 years old, are having real discussions and conversations like you or I would about the protection of our country. Sure, there was a glaring problem that happened and I want to hear from you. Give me a call. What do you think about this situation? When you read this article, when you heard about this, when you're following all the news, does it affect the way you feel about the people currently in control? did you do you think that that's a big problem do you think that this needs to be taken care of what is a solution i'd love to hear all your thoughts 1-800-684-3110 we've got about four lines open right now so it's a perfect time to call at 1-800-684-3110 some of you are responding to the breaking news again this is president trump break silence a lot of people said when was he silent That's a good point. I'll send that message to our social media team, people that help pick the titles. When was he silent? Yeah, maybe never. This isn't the Biden administration. But you know what? We brought it up. But it was on this specific time. All right. Again, phone lines are open for you, but this is the last week of our March Life and Liberty Drive. This is it, folks. It's your last chance to have your donation matched during this month at ACLJ.org. We are fighting on your behalf from all over the country. We're going to get into all the different numerous ways that we are doing that. Stakes couldn't be higher right now. We need your help. Go to ACLJ.org. Have your gift doubled at ACLJ.org. Be right back. Welcome back to Secular. We are going to take your phone calls, and the phone lines currently are jammed. Well, I think we've got to restate what's going on. Of course, this all is playing from the last 24 hours where we saw a pretty big leak happen. And look, I think we've got to call things how we call it. You can't necessarily find a silver lining in it, but you can't defend what happened, which looks to be that a editor of The Atlantic, the main, the editor-in-chief, was added to a text thread on Signal, which is a secure... allegedly, an app for messaging. And that thread, including him, had Vice President Vance, had Tulsi Gabbard, had a whole group of people, including Mike Waltz, all discussing the plans for the attack on the Houthis, which we know was very successful, that no Americans were harmed. And the interactions in this gave me a lot of hope. Because I could see how they're all working together. However, Will, we would not be seeing this if it wasn't for a pretty big blunder from this group.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. So this group chat was set up on Signal. According to the reporting, it seems to have been set up by the National Security Advisor, Mike Walsh. And inadvertently or somehow they're investigating how it happened. Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor at The Atlantic, was added to that list and it was not noticed. And they continued on these deliberations and discussions. One of the big issues, one, and why you're seeing pushback is that Jeffrey Goldberg has been known to be hyperbolic in his reporting. He has pushed known hoaxes even well after they've been published. discredited he's a very partisan journalist uh now he was put in this group chat and i think any journalist would probably stick around and see what's going on yeah but yeah and he also did the right thing and held off you know in some ways because it could have been something you you ruined their plans for this attack
SPEAKER 03 :
But he was actually, you know, you got to give him a little respect for his journalistic integrity, if you will, or maybe just personal integrity going, yeah, I don't need to put this information out immediately. Now, it did happen, of course, the night before this Intel meeting was scheduled.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think the timing of dropping the story yesterday right before this schedule, this is the annual global security threat event. hearing that happens before the Senate Intelligence Committee, CIA Director, Joint Chiefs, FBI Director, Director of National Intelligence all testify before this. So I think the timing was perfect for Jeffrey Goldberg there so that this would take over instead of actually briefing the Senate on the very real global terror threats as the national security team sees them. But one other thing that is littered with innuendo within this piece is that everything, he refers to war plans, he refers to things that appear classified, and the administration is pushing back firmly on that. Even Tulsi Gabbard in this hearing today, as well as the White House, had said no war plans were discussed, no classified material was sent to the thread. I think we have that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do we have that from Tulsi?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I want to point out one thing as well that's in his reporting is that they even reference, hey, these things will be in your high side inboxes. referring to, hey, classified material, look out for this. Not coming through here. The high side inbox is through the secure government system where they can read the classified material. This is a lot of deliberation, things that clearly are confidential conversations, things that they would not want to have a journalist sit in on for just deliberative purposes. That's why in many FOIA requests, things are blocked out. They're exempt from being released and it says deliberative. Meaning sometimes it's not in the best interest for the public to see how the government came to a decision because there is things that go back and forth, things that may not be pertinent later that could jade.
SPEAKER 03 :
Like any business, you're coming up with ideas. You're working things out. You're brainstorming. You're trying to figure out what's the best path. And of course, you are working with a group of people. Like I said, I actually think the messages show that this group of people works really well together, but they never should have been seen in the first place. And that becomes a whole different national security issue. We got some calls related to that. Let's go to Bobby in Virginia. Phone lines are open, by the way. We lost some callers. 1-800-684-3110. We got three lines open for you. Bobby, though, listening on the radio, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi. I think you guys are being awfully cavalier about a major security breach. This is some of the most unprofessional, immature behavior of people who are supposed to be at the very highest levels of government that I've seen in my lifetime, and I'm a senior. Every one of them, I was watching the hearing for a while, every one of them could not remember, could not recall what was on the group chat, which it seems pretty suspect to me because they had every opportunity to review it before they knew they were going to be asked about it. And not only were they hearing classified information, information with a journalist and they were doing it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Bobby, Bobby, we're going to I'm only cutting you off because look, I think you've made your point. I don't disagree, by the way. This is a major security blunder. I think it's something we have to treat seriously and look at it. Now, the content that was shared, though it never should have been shared. And I will agree with you on that, specifically with a journalist. Do I don't I'm not treating that as a cavalier thing. I think it's absurd that this thing could happen. Now, has that happened to me? Has it maybe happened to you? Were you texting the wrong person? Yeah, of course, but we're not talking about war plans. Maybe that's a little different. I'm not saying you're wrong, Bobby, but where you are wrong is the information that was provided was not deemed classified.
SPEAKER 11 :
As well as that a lot of people are trying to point out that how dare they use Signal, that this was actually put in place by the Biden administration. And I want to hear from the CIA director, John Ratcliffe, about Signal specifically. This is Byte 8.
SPEAKER 01 :
So that we're clear, one of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers. One of the things that I was briefed on very early, Senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of Signal as a permissible work use. It is. That is a practice that preceded the current administration to the Biden administration.
SPEAKER 03 :
And here's the thing. They talk about that. They talk about these leaks. Look, this was an unintentional, unenforced error, if you will. This was a mistake. Mistakes do happen. I hate to tell you, and look, sometimes there are consequences for your mistakes, of course. However, you may remember during the first Trump administration and during the Biden administration, there weren't mistakes that were leaked. There were just intentional leaks, a lot of intentional leaks coming from people like James Comey, who was sending out information to the press to get his message across. And how was he held accountable? He was not. Is it a double standard? Sure. Do I think people should be held accountable for mistakes? Absolutely. But let's not pretend that either side is holier than thou in that sense. Okay, we start doing that. It starts to become, you know, like I said, Rosie O'Donnell questioning the results of the last election. You start playing on both sides. All of a sudden you got, you know, fire coming from everywhere. Let's go ahead and go back to the calls. Let's go to Justin who's calling from California. Look, I think it's okay for Justin to have his point of view. You're on YouTube and you're watching. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, thanks for taking my call. My question is, would it be hypocritical for us to not hold them accountable, at least in some way? I mean, I obviously love the cabinet and Trump's team here, but I mean, if this happened under the Biden administration, I think they would be under intense scrutiny. And although this information may not have been truly highly classified, it is still definitely a problem, even to have a reporter on that type of on an app.
SPEAKER 11 :
And Justin, and to your point, I am actually somewhat surprised how strongly President Trump came out in support of his national security advisor. It's not a position that has to be confirmed by the Senate. So if he were to dismiss him, then he can hire someone who doesn't have to go through a confirmation process, which would, if you're looking traditional Washington politics, that would be the scapegoat. One, it appears he is the one who added him, but it also doesn't cause you a headache two months into your administration other than bad PR, bad optics, and a big blunder to then swap him out. I think it's interesting in telling that he does stand behind those team members he's put in place. that this, what appears to be inadvertent, not a malicious leak, appears to be, he's like, I still believe in the team. They executed the mission well. This wasn't a blunder that ended in the loss of human life. They've learned their lesson and let's keep going. Yes, I do think it is easy. for the left to try and use this as a gotcha moment. And they are. They certainly are. Hillary Clinton tweeted last night, you've got to be kidding me, to the article, because of this email server. I think that the politics part of it is going to be messy, and regardless of which side you're on, you're going to disapprove of what the other side does and the decision they make.
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All right, some phone lines are still open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Stay on hold if you're already on hold. I'll try to get to as many of these as we can. We're also going to talk about some work of the ACLJ coming up and how our work in FOIA's Freedom of Information Act request has now uncovered some pretty interesting details of what happened with that blundered, failed Afghanistan withdrawal, which did cause death of Americans and many, many more. Phone lines are open for you. We're going to discuss that coming up again at 1-800-684-3110. We have a lot of work the ACLJ is doing right now. We're going to break that all down coming up in the next segment because this is the last week of our March Life and Liberty Drive. So be a part of it right now and have your donations effectively doubled at ACLJ.org or scan the QR code. Welcome back to Sekulow. Again, we're going to keep you updated on what's going on with that leak situation. And look, I think Will and I both brought up, and we need to clarify, remember there are two different things here. There's intentional leaks. which we saw all the time, specifically in the last administration, or even during the first Trump administration when there were some more deep state-ish kind of actors working. Or we saw the Supreme Court of the United States when that opinion was leaked to the press of the overturning of Dobbs, which became, or the overturning of Roe versus Wade via Dobbs. This is not that. Is it a mistake? Absolutely. Is it a big blunder, a facepalm emoji, if you will? Absolutely. But it was a mistake, an accident. Should there be repercussions for that? Sure, but remember this is different than those who are in the administration specifically feeding the press for their own gain.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right, that type of leak is a leak that's either trying to discredit the administration you work for or get policy changed or embarrass or tear down your government that is different than a inadvertent leak and by leak it was the wrong person added to the thread it wasn't even here's all these documents to you or even I thought I emailed the wrong person and they received it through leak those would be looked at differently. There's a different intent. There's a different purpose. Now, there are there are issues with negligence and things that can arise from these under U.S. code. Yes, there are those issues that I'm certain that the White House counsel and everyone looks at and considers in this. But as of right now, the The Trump White House is very much saying, I stand with this team. I have confidence in them. They delivered on that action. That was even one of the first statements is they verified that, yes, this does appear to be an accurate reflection of a text thread, a signal chat. And what it shows is that The players worked together and executed a near flawless attack on a foreign designated terrorist Iranian proxy.
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Let's go ahead and take a call. Then we're going to talk about some of the work of the ACLJ, but let's continue this discussion. Mary Ellen is calling in Illinois on line one. Mary Ellen, welcome back to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, thank you. A couple of things. One just occurred to me as you're all talking. In the Democrat Party... If they make a mistake like Benghazi, Afghanistan, you didn't hear anything much. It's like a lot of things were left, but here we have a transparent administration, and we're seeing this all. The other point is the Democrats, politically, they think long-term, strategically, and their party is falling apart. They have no big leader on the left. But our bench is full of strong leaders. They will do everything and anything to attack every last one of them because they want to knock them all down before 2028 can go on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mary Ellen, you're definitely right. And I think that you have a point of view that most of our listenership either shares or now agrees with. Now, I couldn't have asked for a better segue. And it feels like we set you up for this because you mentioned the first thing you mentioned Benghazi and all of those type of things that happened that it felt like there was no accountability for some of these massive problems that happened. And I want to move our attention to the Afghanistan withdrawal. And I know that it's old news now. You may be like, Logan, that was 2021. Why are we still talking about this? We're talking about it because people lost their lives and we've been digging and digging and our servicemen lost their lives and women. And we found some pretty interesting new information through our Freedom of Information Act requests. Again, these things take time, energy, hours to make sure they can happen and they can't do it without you. So we got to uncover really what's going on, what the truth is. And here's what we got. We got a pretty big update. Will, I want you to share it.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. So if you'll remember, it was a disaster and 13 service members lost their lives at that Abbey Gate bombing. And our FOIA request was trying to get information about how they arrived at this decision to do the withdrawal from Afghanistan in this way. And it just so happened that yesterday, while all of these, this Signalgate issue was going on on Twitter and on cable news, our lawyers sent this over and said, we just got a new production on the Afghanistan FOIA from the State Department. And here's what we found. This was a dissent cable that was sent to- And we need to start with what cable even is. So a dissent cable is what gets sent from foreign service, people that are overseas working in country, in this case, Afghanistan. And they have tried to go through the regular channels of policymakers, of people in Washington, at the embassies, and say, look, we think that this is a mistake. Or we dissent, we have a different opinion about how things should play out than what your policy is right now. And if it keeps escalating, kind of the last resort is a dissent cable, which is a classified cable. It goes to the very head. It goes to the Secretary of State and other key players that is then laying out in a very formulaic and express way of what their dissent is. And we had heard rumblings that there was a dissent cable that went, but we didn't know necessarily the widespread players that were involved in this and some of their reaction to it and what kind of the magnitude of what it meant. We just kind of heard that this happened years ago. But this dissent cable was sent to Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman, Deputy Secretary of State Brian McKeon, and Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland. Those are the swampiest of the swamp.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we know those names.
SPEAKER 11 :
Biden bad actors. And they are policymakers. They are the ones that were driving the Biden foreign policy. And they were carriers from the Obama administration. And they received this cable on July 13th of 2021. And it said, Good afternoon. We've received the dissent channel message below expressing concerns regarding U.S. policy towards Afghanistan. Please let me know if you'd like to provide initial guidance to shape our response on this matter. July 13th is about a month before Kabul fell and about five weeks before the bombing at Abbey Gate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I understand that this happened all before. This isn't a during. This isn't, you know, warnings. This happened all before there was clear warning that this was not going to go the way they thought it was going to go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Their content is still classified. And so it is redacted for the purpose of our FOIA. But I want you to hear this last paragraph that's not classified. It says, prior to resorting to this dissent channel cable, drafters made every effort to ensure the above alternative foreign policy views were communicated in full and timely manner through regular operating channels and procedures. They were not being listened to. They are the people that were on the ground saying, Washington, you're going to mess this up. And it ended up costing 13 American lives because they wouldn't listen at the State Department. And they had to resort to their last resort a month before the fall of Kabul, five to six weeks before Americans died. And Wendy Sherman, Brian McKeon, and Victoria Nuland faced no consequences. They were ignoring the cries on the ground saying, don't do this. And people died. And yet you're hearing the left today say that an inadvertent discussion, which cost no American lives, which wasn't classified information and actually ended up being a foreign policy move that was successful. They're saying, make them resign now. That's a double standard. The double standard is when the left is fine with these people that wouldn't change their policy because they had it set in their mind. They wouldn't listen to the people in their own government saying don't do this. And they remained for four years. But now they're saying make these people resign.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. Second half hour coming up next segment. We're going to have Rick Grinnell joining us, former director of national intelligence. We're going to talk about that for you that we had in Afghanistan. And also look, He's dealt with a lot of national security matters, and of course, that's one of the big topics today, is that leaked, not even leaked, that accidental text message chain that went to the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, which included a lot of national security higher-ups, including the Vice President of the United States. And of course, that thread was about what was going on with the attack on the Houthis and the Houthi rebels. Of course, we know that was a successful campaign. We know that no Americans were harmed in that campaign. But here we are, where somehow, A journalist, a not-so-friendly journalist, too, an editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, got added to this threat. Of course, that's a national security issue. It needs to be addressed. It needs to be discussed. It needs to be broken down. And there are a lot of people who are saying, well, we're going to have to hold them accountable. And there's a lot of Democrats saying, we've got to make sure that these people resign. Don't take that bait. Because they didn't do it when their people were actually intentionally leaking. This was an accident. It was a mistake. Do I approve of it? Absolutely not. Do I think there should be consequences? Sure. But remember, when the people who are calling for the resignations are the people who are just trying to dismantle, as Mary Ellen said, the deep roster that the conservatives have right now that they are very afraid of.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and Logan, you know what I think is interesting about Mary Ellen's call is you think about the people on that thread. Tulsi Gabbard, J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth. I think all of those could have presidential aspirations after four years in this administration.
SPEAKER 03 :
Three of them have already run before.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. So J.D. Vance is not. Well, I mean, J.D. Vance is already, you know, he's involved. I know what you mean. I got it. But yes, he was an elected official. As vice president. So yes, three of them have run for president before. Don't think that it's out of their mind that they could potentially run again. And I think Pete Hegseth is maybe a wild card that people may not be thinking about as much of someone who could run for president one day after a successful term as the Secretary of Defense and showing leadership to the American people. Now, that I think also speaks to the timing of it being released before the hearing today, the timing of who the people are and why. It's been kind of a slow news time relatively for the past week, which is... unsettling in a trump administration thus far because it has been so fast and furious with all the different angles and stories that it had kind of slowed down i think they saw this as the perfect time to drop it to try and smear these people within the president's administration just make them look stupid and that's just what the end of the day is what what this whole plan is because the actual text messages if you read them you'd be like i actually kind of like how these people all talk to each other i do
SPEAKER 03 :
There's thoughts on should they be using emojis? What do I care? These are people who are mostly under 50. Some of them under 45, under 40. Yeah, if they want to use emojis, what do I care? I'm glad they have a cordial conversation. I'm glad they were able to actually have these kind of discussions to go back and forth. I loved seeing that. I don't love that it was leaked to a journalist, but I do love seeing that your government in action is actually getting stuff done and they're having a real conversation. There was a moment I looked at it and said, was this intentional? Do we even prove that? I don't think so. And I think president Trump was pretty strong on that, said he's learned his lesson. That means he's a good man. I have a feeling he got a talking to and look, I like walls. I've interviewed him. I've talked to him many times. It seems like a upstanding guy. This was clearly a mistake. Clearly, they own the mistake. And now we move on as a country. But as Will said, it's a slow news time. So this is going to overtake the news and not that it shouldn't be a story. I don't want to ever act like I'm some hack for one side or the other. Of course, it should be a story. It should be a conversation we're having. No one wants to see our national security information leaked to the press, especially they don't want to see it, you know, them somehow getting involved in a text thread about what we're about to do. But it happened. And how do we respond? Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us in the next segment. We're going to talk to him. Of course, he is a former director of national intelligence and ambassador to Germany. It's been a member of the secular team for a long time. And he is a special envoy, President Trump. So we'll discuss this as well as what we have discovered. And our FOIA request over the collapse in Afghanistan and the warnings that were coming in at the highest level to please, please look at what you're about to do because it could be a giant disaster. Of course, we know it was. It cost 13 service members their lives. We're going to talk about that with Rick Grinnell coming up. You can join us also at 1-800-684-3110. We're joined by Rick Grinnell, who is joining us right now. Sorry about that. I had my mic turned off. I didn't mean to do that. Rick Grinnell is joining us. He is on. Rick, I wanted to first start this conversation with you. Of course, you're a former director of national intelligence. Of course, ambassador to Germany. You've been a member of this team for a while. Special envoy as well for President Trump. I wanted to discuss, though, something the ACLJ uncovered, and we were The work is long. The work sometimes takes a long time. It's hard work to get information to our audience. And these FOIA requests take time. The Freedom of Information Act requests. And well, for those who are just tuning in, we did have a pretty big development and we uncovered something pretty interesting of what was going on in the months and days leading up to that botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. And Rick, I sent this to you last night and this was a discovery through FOIA where as we looked at the rationale and the disaster behind the withdrawal from Afghanistan, we found out from one of the productions from the State Department that a descent cable, was sent from the Foreign Service to the State Department and was shared with Deputy Secretary Wendy Sherman, Deputy Secretary Brian McKeon, and Undersecretary Victoria Nuland so that they could give initial guidance in how to shape their response. Now this was, according to the unredacted part of the cable, Prior to resorting to this dissent channel cable, drafters made every effort to ensure the above alternative foreign policy views were communicated in a full and timely manner through regular operating channels and procedures. So what does this mean when we look at the fact that these Obama-Biden State Department folks were receiving this dissent cable and it was in opposition to the stated policy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, these dissent cables are troublesome in some ways because, well, it seems like it's a good idea to give people the ability to form a cable of formalized communication to complain about policy. I actually think that people should be free to speak up immediately. You should give your opinion about the policy, not from a standpoint of politics, but from the standpoint of national security, what's best for the U.S. government. And then have the debate in the room. And then when the U.S. policymakers say, no, this is the position, And we're going to go with this. You walk out of that room and you suck it up. If you can't, then you should not be working for the U.S. government if you can't push U.S. government policy. We have a process in this country, selecting officials. They form U.S. policy. And if you don't like it, you can't work for a person who is pushing U.S. policy, then you should leave. I don't like these defense cables, which is like a formal kind of process. that says, you know, we disagree with the stated policy. Well, I kind of don't care if you disagree with the stated policy, but this is something that the Biden-Obama type, they like, they listen to what the bureaucrats say, they change their position according to what bureaucrats say. And I think it's really troublesome.
SPEAKER 11 :
When you see the names like Wendy Sherman and Victoria Nuland, you've talked about them many times on the broadcast. As the policymakers, when you put it in the context of the Afghanistan withdrawal, knowing that they later were saying things like, hindsight's 20-20. when clearly whether or not the point aside of that there were people that were not on board with the policy and that your job at some point is to further the policy. And we see the aftermath of what happened with Afghanistan. And yet they stuck around and were continuing to make the policy of the Biden administration for four years. Is that indicative of how it operated and why it was so disastrous for four years?
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, they get a buy. People like Wendy Sherman, they get away with... being wrong because the bureaucracy excuses them and the media excuses them. They're never held to account. Wendy Sherman has been wrong so many times, whether it's on Iran or North Korea, just pull up her assessments and, you know, you almost have to do the opposite of Wendy Sherman to be right. She literally has been wrong on every major foreign policy issue. And you look at Afghanistan and what she was saying and what she was doing. and how she was coordinating the policy, it's no wonder that this is just the latest failure that we add to her resume. You can have Susan Rice to this as well. And Susan Rice was the Assistant Secretary of State for Africa when we saw genocide go on, and she couldn't get out of her chair to say anything about it. You look at Benghazi for Susan Rice. She has been totally a failure. And in the Democratic Party, there seems to be a failing up policy. As long as you stick around and you scratch a whole bunch of people's back, you get the bigger job despite your record.
SPEAKER 03 :
I want to promote also right now for people to call in because we've got three lines open. And in the next segment, we're going to take as many calls as we can. But Rick, I couldn't have you on here and not address obviously the news of the day. And you've been posting about it on X. So I wanted to get your thoughts and for your thoughts to be shared with some of our listeners. Obviously, we're talking about. That essentially leak, but leak is the wrong word, that accidental text thread that happened via Signal, which included the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic and some of our top security and national security people, including the Vice President of the United States. Obviously, there's a lot being said right now. A lot of discussions are happening. Tulsi Gabbard's making statements. I just want to get your overall thoughts on what you can share with the American people on this sort of big moment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, it's clearly an unfortunate error that occurred by adding a reporter. to what was a private text chain. But it's clear it wasn't classified information. And the Democrats, you know, they have nothing left. And so they're trying to create drama out of this. It was a clear mistake to add someone. I think everyone has admitted that. It was unfortunate and inadvertent. However, to then jump to the conclusion that they were talking about classified information, It's just not true. There is this thing called SBU, which is sensitive, but unclassified. And I think this is what was being done. It was sensitive talk, but it's unclassified as well. It wasn't war plans like what the Democrats are trying to create. But I will say this, you know, they're really looking for something. The Democrats don't have a message yet. And so they're dramatizing every little thing. And that's not helpful for America. You've got to be able to recognize that our policies of opening up the straits, opening up what is a blockade by confronting the terrorists who are blocking commerce, I think is a very good thing, and they've lost the narrative by pretending somehow that classified information was shared on Signal. It just wasn't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, even if it's not, let's say it was. Again, this was a mistake, an accident. This was not something that happened on, it feels like at least pretty much confirmed, this was an accident. Things happen. I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences for that, but let's not forget what happened even over the last eight years, which you had people, senior people, including people like James Comey and others, leaking intentionally. leaking, going to the press themselves or going through a friend to the press or calling and disclosing. Very top, what you'd say were classified information. You had a Supreme Court leak, get their opinion leaked for the Dobbs, the Roe versus Wade overturning decision months before it was available to the public. No one was held accountable in those situations. So you can't now pretend that the Democrats are playing some holier-than-thou game where they're like, how dare this happen? And again, this happened by accident, unlike what was happening so much over the last decade.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that's a very good point. We have seen purposeful leaks from the other side. And this was clearly an inadvertent leak. And the difference is enormous. And I think that the public sees that. And the president of the United States said, look, it was an unfortunate glitch. And we're moving on. And that's exactly the way to handle it.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Thanks. I am a champion and encourage others to do it. My question is, my concern is this lawfare that's going on. Can you hear me all right? We got you. Yeah. And these, you know, these sort of judge shop judicial injunctions that are occurring. I'm trying to, and maybe it's not a possibility, but is there a way to have, approach the conservative side? another district judge to you know come come come with a ruling that puts a stay on the previous injunction without having to go through the process of appealing to an appellate court or the supreme court yeah well of course james essentially asking can two play at this judge shopping game
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, unfortunately, the people that are suing to have the thing stopped or overturned are the ones suing. The government's not going to sue themselves to do it within a district where they would get a favorable ruling. But also the injunction, it's almost like you can't double negative it, that they're not going to put an injunction on the other judge. They'd be putting the injunction on the administration, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
They would just be going back and forth. You're out of order.
SPEAKER 11 :
They're not going to put an injunction on another judge in that manner. So really, the appellate process is the way to do it, and that's why they find a favorable judge, because then it's going linearly, not horizontally, up the chain. And also, many of these aren't appealable judges. within the process. If it's like a TRO, typically, especially because there's a defined timeline, that's not something you can offer an appeal on while it's still being adjudicated through the court. So that is part of the reason why they do it this way to slow roll the actions of the administration. Yeah. And that's also why some legal analysts and things have said that, you know, the Supreme Court could have weighed in, I believe, is even the Washington Post with one of the first things I believe is on the birthright citizenship issue. They could have ruled and said or. given guidance that they believe that administrative actions are appealable on the TRO phase and gotten the TRO on the appeal, but they didn't weigh in there. So it kind of continues the way that it's accepted within the rules of the judiciary that some of these things have to wait and play out before you can even get to the appeals court level.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, hopefully that answers your question. Let's continue on because there's a lot of calls coming in. Let's go to Eric in South Carolina, listening on the radio. All radio calls today, actually. Eric, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. I love you guys. I want to say what no one, I'm not hearing anyone say, but I don't believe this was an accident. Irresponsible would be a kind way of saying stupid if it was irresponsibility, but I think this was the sabotage or even subterfuge because... Trump said that it was one of Mike's people, Mike Walsh's people, that added Goldberg. How in the world do you add such a biased journalist? You know the guys there. It's impossible to just add someone unless you intentionally add someone. This was added intentionally, and the person needs to go. who did that, if it was one of Mike's persons who did it. I'm going to go ahead and kind of defend Mike a little bit. Hopefully he didn't do the adding. But if Trump knows someone did it by adding this biased guy, they need to fire that person.
SPEAKER 03 :
Look, no, Eric. course when we're even having our meetings we're discussing what would be the benefit if someone was to do this intentionally whether that was a member of that text thread or somebody who had access to it but Will you got something?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well and what Mike's saying is that President Trump did tell NBC in that conversation where he said Michael Waltz has learned a lesson he's a good man he did say it was one of Michael's people on the phone a staffer had his number on there so What I think he's explaining is that potentially when the initial chat was set up now, I'm sure we will learn more about this because people are not going to stop asking about it in contact, but it said, Hey, set up the chat for me so we can start talking. Get, signal starts adding the numbers. I've heard some speculation from an unnamed sources in the press that we're talking to outlets that it was a similar name of a staffer that they were trying to add to the chat and so therefore it was a Pure mix up on names. But then there's there. Obviously, theories are going to abound until we hear an exact explanation from the administration. That's kind of how this political ecosystem works. So I expect that they will try to clarify as much as they can what actually happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
We actually have a call. Thanks, Eric. We have a call related to the transparency of all this. And look, I think for 24 hours, we're actually learning quite a lot. Let's go to Scott in Nevada online for Scott. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 02 :
Hi, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to say that I think this is another opportunity for Republicans to show how serious they are and how transparent they are. All they really need to do, I think, is just give a detailed explanation, maybe a minor reprimand to the person who put the wrong number in there, and just show how foolish and unserious the Democrat Party is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Scott, I think I agree with you for the most part, and I think they've done that for a lot longer. So far, even the fact that President Trump has already made a statement saying that Mike Walz has learned a lesson and he's a good man, that means a discussion at least was had. Things have been going on. Now, for the details, that's probably still being uncovered.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and to your point, Scott, initially, when this story was released... The government agencies, the National Security Council and the White House confirmed that it was a genuine threat. That's not normal. That actually is very transparent telling the press instead of just not responding to comment, trying to sweep it under the rug and not pay attention. That was a very unusual move to see them confirm that it was accurate. And I think that goes to your point. That is very transparent. I've also seen memes that say like, This isn't what we meant when we meant most transparent in history. We're going to have a reporter on the thing. And while that is making light of the seriousness of it, I think it goes to the point, Scott, that they actually do seem serious about being as transparent as they can on this.
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In this insightful episode of Best Stocks Now, join Barry Kite as he navigates a seemingly quiet day in the market, touching on significant themes in the economic landscape. With an emphasis on the recent tariff news impacting major sectors such as energy and pharmaceuticals, we explore investor sentiment and the ongoing Brexit concerns. Ev trends also feature prominently, with Tesla taking center stage amid fluctuating international markets.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 01 :
Good morning and welcome to the Tuesday, March 25th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I'm your host, Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital Management, handling show duties for Bill today while he and Jeff are meeting some of the great folks in Sarasota. I know they got to meet some folks yesterday and have a busy schedule today. So holding down the fort here in Charleston for them today. We've got kind of a bit of just a... A bit of a boring day in the market. We've got the S&P up just up one point, literally 1.33 points. So we're technically in the green. We've got the Dow down 50 points. That's only down 0.12%. So basically flat. NASDAQ up 14 points here, so up 0.07%. Get your decimal points ready here. We've got crude oil still under that $70 range, up 0.7%. And we've got, I guess we've got gold, this is the big mover, up $25 today, still above that $3,000 level, up 0.85%. And then we've got Bitcoin basically flat right at $87,000. 544. So, well, good morning, and again, welcome to the Tuesday, March 25th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I'm your host, Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital. Sitting in for Bill today, well, I guess, you know, not much going on in the market, at least at the moment, but it was nice to start the week with a solid day for risk assets yesterday. The risk appetite certainly seemed to once again kind of revolve around, certainly revolved around the tariff narrative. I don't know if anyone else out there is tired of hearing about tariffs, but I wish we'd go ahead and let's figure this thing out and either get them on or get them off so we can have some clarity on it. But, you know, yesterday the thought was that the tariffs would be, you know, kind of less sweeping, more calculated tariffs. And more kind of exceptions may be made along the way. The trick is what exceptions are those and what industries or sectors are they going to affect the most or least from that aspect. And we'll look at that a little bit later. But EV stocks certainly fared very well yesterday. Tesla bouncing back pretty significantly. At one point, it was up over 10%. News out of China in terms of adoption of EV vehicles. I know we talked about it towards the end of the show yesterday, but essentially over a 50% penetration there and expected to have roughly, what, I think over 70%, 75% by 2020. 2027. China seems to be pretty gung-ho about getting these EVs out on the road. Tesla certainly benefited from some of that news and just benefited from some investment. Kind of a short squeeze there from Tesla's bounce back. But, yeah, yesterday you had 10 out of 11 S&P segments trending higher. So that's a pretty broad-based kind of rally there. News-wise, we've got – you had, in terms of giving you some risk appetite there, you had – If you look at Bitcoin yesterday, it rebounded. It was kind of pushing towards that $90,000 level, I think, as we've seen in the markets as we get older. you know, some optimism in terms of, you know, the tariffs maybe not being as wide, expansive as thought. You've seen kind of, you know, risk return to the market as kind of ebbed and flowed. You certainly saw it in names like MicroStrategy, which were up over, you know, I think it was up over almost 7% yesterday. Coinbase was up over 5.5% yesterday. So you had a lot of those crypto and really risk on names there. And Tesla was one of those driving, no pun intended there, but kind of driving the move higher yesterday. You had, if you don't realize, the stock was kind of trimmed basically 50% from its 52-week high yesterday. It had nine consecutive weeks of losses. So the move over the last day or two, let's see what it's doing at the moment here. We had some other news come out. Down 1.5%, so off a pretty big move yesterday. given a little bit back today, but you've got a protest planned for March 29th. He's obviously still a lightning rod, Tesla's lightning rod, in terms of sentiment in the market as well. So we've got a protest planned for March 29th, actually. Tesla is going to be delivering their Q1 numbers in terms of what their deliveries were for the month. That comes out next week for Q1. And the FBI has actually created a task force to look into these attacks on Tesla dealerships, vandalism. They had a bomb squad, I believe, that had found some different devices at one of the showrooms in Austin. So just a big wad of news around Tesla devices. It doesn't have to do with cars or automated driving or robots, but there's a lot of things, different cross-currents around that name certainly at the moment. I thought of Bill this morning when I saw this news. Kathy Wood, who's still very bullish on Tesla, she still sees the stock hitting, I think it's $2,600 in five years. So her outlook has not changed for the name. I believe she said that in an interview in the last, I think here, I don't know if it was this morning or yesterday evening. So she's still bullish. uh still still a big bull on the name uh you know how you get to 2600 pretty uh um you know i didn't need her to weigh that out uh for us over the next five years but um she certainly has been a big proponent of it and holds a good bit of the shares uh in her uh in her arc arc funds there uh in terms of uh you know in terms of the market right we had uh And from a technical standpoint, and you certainly can follow that along with that in Bill's newsletter, in terms of it's one of the sections I always kind of like the most is the technical indicator section. But it's one of the first ones after a good bit of the weekly news. But S&P was right there at its 200-day moving average yesterday. I believe it finished just above the 200-day moving average, but it's one of those periods where whenever you're bouncing around those kind of support levels, it can create some additional volatility. whether it's some of this technical trading or some algorithmic trading. When you get to those kind of significant levels or numbers in terms of where support can go either way at that point. But yesterday, it was a good state above it. Right now, markets basically... remain flat. So we should still be on the green side of that 200-day moving average figure. Other action we've seen yesterday is, of course, gold continues to be a solid safe haven there above the 3,000 mark. Gold mining ETFs actually just started getting some of their first monthly kind of net inflows in about six months now. So miners eventually, I guess as long as they run the business well and get the gold out of the ground in an efficient manner, certainly a way to play that gold space. currently, particularly with some leverage because they get the gold out of the ground using some leverage and interest as well. Well, we're just getting started here on the First quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. We'll get into some what's going on today in the market. And we've got some things on the economic calendar, some Fed speak to get into. But we'll be right back. Stay with us.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 01 :
And welcome back here to the Tuesday, March 25th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I'm Barry Kite, planter and analyst here at Gunderson Capital. Taking the wheel for Bill today as he's, him and Jeff, meeting with folks. I know we've got Edie down there too in Sarasota. uh meeting with uh meeting with some folks uh clients and um and future clients down there so i hope uh i know they'll have a uh have a good time uh seeing seeing the people out there well i'm not missing much here in terms of uh you know in terms of the market at the moment not many big uh big movers out there we've got Let's see, the Dow is up 9 points. That's only 0.02% here. We've got the S&P up 9 points, up 0.16% here. NASDAQ up 0.22%. And gold, I guess the big winner, up 0.62% today. So not a lot going on, looks like, at least from a volatility standpoint. I think after this quarter, we're probably okay with not a bunch of volatility. We've got this year, I mean, you had a lot of the volatility in the upward direction. Going through to about mid-February, then mid-February the market hit all-time highs and then subsequently corrected down in terms of some names being over 20%, particularly on some of the MAG-7 names, those in the AI space. So today it looks like we've got a bit of a quiet market, so we'll take it. From an economic calendar standpoint, we've had a number of Fed speakers this week. One was speaking at 8.40 a.m. this morning. Then we had the New York Federal Reserve President, John Williams. He was speaking at 9.05 this morning. Just got the consumer confidence number out. That came out at 10 a.m. this morning. It was another kind of not great figure here. It looks like consumer confidence came in at 92.9. It was supposed to be around 94.2 was the consensus. We're at 100.1 in February, marks the fourth straight month of declines. And it kind of falls in that sentiment level where we had consumer sentiment falling, a lot of it due to potential inflation fears or just not knowing what was going to potentially occur with some of the tariffs. or the tariff talk. And then we had the investor sentiment figures were not great either. So we're in this kind of pessimistic mode, I think, a lot of times. And I've said it on the show and said it kind of talking with clients. There's a lot of the stuff that What we see as headwinds for the economy or bad stuff that gets focused on is all very quantifiable. In other words, you have a certain number of jobs or federal jobs removed. or a certain amount of the budget right was removed we saved this much money those things are very quantifiable and all those things are going to you know have headwinds for the economy but the stuff that is harder to quantify is you know reducing you know regulations or red tape to encourage investment and encourage longer term investment and so the some of the payoff for some of the near-term pain or the quantifiable pain is certainly, you know, going to be harder to quantify down the road. So we're seeing that, you're seeing that in a lot of these sentiment surveys where, you know, the confidence or the, sentiment out there isn't very strong. Optimism isn't very strong at the moment. Of course, that ebbs and flows over time. We did get some news. Like I said, we had a lot of Fed speak. We had Atlanta Fed President Rafael Bostic. I think he initially had two interest rate cuts for the year, and I think he's pulled that back. He's kind of thinking we're only going to have one. interest rate cut at the Fed this year. That's really kind of regarding, I think tariff increases may kind of peak inflation up for a period, which... We'll kind of delay the Fed in terms of lowering rates. We'll essentially push that back a little bit more into 2027. So it's interesting to see some of these economic takes in terms of them trying to read the tea leaves as well in terms of where we go, particularly from April 2nd. In terms of the government, we always talk about the debt ceiling. It looks like that is scheduled to be hit sometime around July. Certainly there's a lot of moving parts there in terms of what cuts potentially are done through Doge or what the tax receipts are in the first part of tax season. Anyways, we're kind of shaping up for some debt ceiling debate. I'm sure it will be tied to Some of the tax fight or tax bill that will be, you know, it's going to have to be dealt with here pretty shortly. But we've, in terms of some of these, you know, down forecasts, we've also had, saw where Vanguard does downgrade some U.S. growth forecasts for 2025. There's been a couple of large wire houses that have reduced the expected GDP for the U.S. in 2025. And we've got, let's see, Vanguard cut the U.S. economic growth forecast for 2025. It's going to now, it's going to be expected, I think they're Tim, we're going to come in at 1.7% in 2025. I guess they assumed 2.1% to begin with. So I guess that's a pretty sizable cut there almost. It looks like about a 20% cut to that figure. So we'll see. Of course, a lot of that is subject to change, and we'll talk about some of the – Some of the tariff pieces when we come back in the second part of the show. And we'll also look under the hood and see if we can find some names moving around here. Not a lot going on in the markets after, I guess, what seems to speak. Seems like it's been a while since we've had a day like this with not much movement, even though we finally got the markets, NASDAQ's up almost a quarter of a percent here, finally up 44 points at the moment. So we'll dive in, see if we can find a little action out there. But you're certainly always welcome. to reach us at GundersenCapital.com. Thankfully, not all the days are as volatile as they have been. But we'll be back for the second half of the show. That's the best stocks now.
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And welcome back to the second half of the Tuesday, March 25th edition of the Best Docs Now show.
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I am Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital. Sitting in for Bill today as he's down in sunny Sarasota meeting with folks. And, of course, if you ever want to stay up to date with Bill's thoughts on the market, Get his newsletter at gundersoncapital.com. Or certainly if you'd like to have a discussion about how you're allocated, your portfolio, feel free to give us a call, 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-BEST. 6-1-1-2-3-7-8. Always here to be a resource any way we can. But, yeah, I mean, yesterday certainly we've got some green on the scoreboard here today. Markets seem to start picking up a little bit. We've got the Dow up 0.2%. We've got the S&P 500 up 0.25% and the NASDAQ up. 0.26% at the moment. Bitcoin basically flat on the day, so it doesn't seem to be a huge risk appetite there. out there at the moment. But certainly yesterday, you had a 2% move in the NASDAQ up. Certainly seemed to be fueled at least partly by tariff talk and kind of a more of a muted kind of stance yesterday at least. So the question is, obviously, none of us really know what what's going to end up happening with the tariffs. But I guess the question really is kind of what could the impact be. Of course, we've got Liberation Day coming on April 2nd. That will have to do with some of the reciprocal tariffs. Trump's mentioned that he's got some info coming out here shortly. I think some of this information is going to likely come out leading up to that April 2nd larger announcement. Certain countries may get breaks. Certain industries may get breaks. So we'll have to see certainly how a lot of that plays out. One that's already playing out is Trump is going to impose secondary tariffs on Venezuelan oil, which essentially means if some other country purchases Venezuelan oil, then in some form or fashion they'll be subject to a tariff on something else from the U.S. Crude's been... You know, a little higher on the news because you're taking a little bit of supply out of the overall market there. The U.S. imported just under 230,000 barrels a day of Venezuelan crude in 2024. So there's not a huge amount of U.S. supply that's going to be – that we're – that were taking off the market. But China is a very big purchaser of Venezuelan oil. I believe China received just a little over 500,000 barrels a day of crude from Venezuela. So that is going to be potentially subject to some type of secondary tariff. And that will kind of, it can hurt some U.S. refiners. Of course, U.S. refiners were using some of that Venezuelan crude, refining it, also some Canadian and Mexican crude. So refiners have some issues in terms of how these tariffs are going to affect them and their business going forward as well. So that's on the oil side. We did get a note. We did have the CEO of Airbus essentially express some concerns about the tariffs. First, of course, it would be a burden for both of them, Boeing and Airbus. Of course, Boeing being Airbus' biggest competitor. Both of those companies would suffer in any type of tariff situation, but the CEO for Airbus mentioned that he thinks Boeing would take the brunt of it. in terms of the most impact, and that's really because Airbus has some geographically diverse production, so they can kind of work. They have some ways to work around those tariffs a little bit, a little more flexibility there for Airbus versus Boeing. Another discussion I've heard, this is one that's gotten a lot of talk the last few days, just, of course, imposing tariffs, potentially imposing tariffs on the pharmaceutical industry. That's a tricky one. Obviously, drug costs are something that all Americans and voters are focused on and places that will hit your pocketbook pretty quickly and usually aren't planning for it there. But that's a piece because a lot of these active ingredients aren't manufactured here. I was looking at a breakdown of where a lot of what they call the active ingredients of a particular drug or pharmaceutical, close to half of them are made in India. That's 48%. You know, Europe, I think, is around 22%. China, 13%. And, you know, really just only about 10% of the active ingredients, at least from 2021, study in 2021, were manufactured in the U.S. So if you're applying tariffs to China, say the pharmaceutical industry will, you know, essentially 90% of, you know, of the active ingredients in pharmaceuticals that are, you know, that we're, you know, that America's consuming will be, you know, potentially affected by some type of pharmaceutical tariff. So, The BC, it's very interesting in terms of how this all plays out, which industries are affected. We've also seen some positive. You've seen some positive news on some fronts. You've got Northern Dynasty Minerals, symbol there is NAK, had a huge pop yesterday. One of the things they do is they're a mineral company. Miner and Refiner, they've got, I guess, one of the, trying to get drilling rights or trying to get it developed. I think it's the world's largest undeveloped copper deposit. It's in Pebble. I believe that's in Alaska. But that's a company that is benefiting from an executive order that Trump signed to boost mineral output. We had Hyundai Steel invest $5.8 billion in the Louisiana steel mill. So that's an investment into... I think that's part of a $21 billion investment that Hyundai Steel is going to make into the U.S. I think they've got some manufacturing plants. They're going to build some mills around Alabama. Savannah, Georgia. And we've got this 5.8 already going to a mill in Louisiana. And it's going to essentially, I believe, once it's online by 2029, we'll produce 2.7. a million metric tons of steel annually. So that's bringing manufacturing back to the U.S. in that example. And then there's other big things. Shell is betting on big LNG being a big additive to their earnings through 2030. I think they're trying to boost their liquefied natural gas sales by almost 5% annually through 2030. So that's another, certainly a big player in terms of liquid-fired natural gas and reducing some of the red tape and some of the environmental holdup in some of those types of industries. Last, let's see, we'll get, I think we're getting down towards the end of the segment, but last, it looks like Trump Media is going to partner with crypto.com for uh to make a line of america first etf so look for those those will be uh coming uh coming out soon i believe uh here looks like maybe the next uh a few months or so but we'll be uh we'll be right back look under the hood and see if we can find some things moving in the market it's the best stocks now show
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And welcome back to the March 25th edition of the Best Docs Now show. Last segment here. Of course, if you'd like to stay up to date with our thoughts, Bill's thoughts on the market, you're always welcome to sign up for the newsletter. We've got four weeks of Bill's live trading emails that you'll get during that trial. You're always welcome to go to GundersenCapital.com. Or feel free to give Edie a call here, 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378. Well, the good news is everything here, everything on the screen is green at the moment. We've got the Dow up 0.2%. S&P up 0.31, NASDAQ up 0.47%. So everything, even Bitcoin up 0.16 at the moment. So a little life in the market. It looks like it's certainly a little least of life towards the green end here. Not a lot going under the hood in terms of the market. It seems like we've been getting a lot of, we talked about it at the end of the show yesterday, but getting a lot of, you know, EV news in the last few days. It looks like Waymo, that's Google's self-driving vehicle unit, is going to be targeting cars. I guess Washington, D.C. in 2026. So we'll have, I guess, self-driving cars coming to the district. It says here, formalize the regulations needed to operate without a human behind the wheel. in the district. So that's in the making there. The company, you know, Waymo has been pushing, they've got expansion and they've been in the Bay Area for a while, but also to Atlanta and Miami. And of course, you've got, you know, Tesla launching a robo-taxi and uh austin and california uh within i think within this year and then amazon you've got uh what zooks i think it's zoox uh they're testing uh robo taxis in san francisco uh and uh and on the vegas strip so and looks like uh getting closer and closer to uh to seeing a robo taxi near you um Feel free to fire us some pictures when you come across one of those things, as Bill calls it, boots on the ground. So if you see one out there, let us know. Of course, yesterday we talked about Tesla rolling out full self-driving in China. We'll say it just in terms of we talked about Tesla being up pretty significantly yesterday. You know, it is interesting. I mean, the backlash around the world. I mean, I was looking at sales in Europe. Tesla sales in Europe plunged again in February. And let's see, they were down 40%. So the number of cars registered in February were down 40% from a year ago. And the actual amount of European car sales were actually up 26% in February in terms of electric cars. So You had an increase in electric cars sales in Europe and a decrease in electric cars sold by Tesla in Europe. A big mismatch there, and those are things that are harder to quantify in terms of people's opinions. It's kind of like the fashion industry. Things are in vogue and then not very quickly. It would be interesting to see what that looks like going forward. One name we own here, BYDDF, their company revenue topped $100 billion in 2024. That's the first time their annual revenue has succeeded that. $100 billion, so that's pretty impressive there. Their full-year revenue increased 29% in 2024, and their sales of electric vehicles jumped 40%. So just BYDDF continues to be Strong name, not just in China, but I also saw where they're selling, I guess they're selling some of those cars into Europe as well. So I think it looks like the EV BYD sold 4,400 vehicles in February into Europe. So keep an eye on that there. A couple other little ideas of note, I saw where Apple's iPhone shipments to China dropped pretty significantly in January. Just really the smartphone industry as a whole in China seems to be, I don't know if they're in a lull in terms of everyone has one or not. No one's in a replacement cycle at the moment, but shipments on the iPhone dropped 17% year over year. Actually, 17% in general in smartphone shipments in China dropped. And then for Apple, that was 21% year over year. Even their domestic brands were down 13%. So interesting take there in terms of the smartphone market in China. Last piece here, Alibaba. So they made the news. It's a name we own. Their chairman, Joe Tsai, expressing concern about potential AI bubble in the U.S. in terms of primarily on the data infrastructure side. A lot of the, you know, he's kind of questioning some of the, you know, huge expansion into data centers in the U.S., meaning some of these data centers are being essentially built on spec data. You know, meaning being built and then, you know, in hopes that the demand will be there once it's ready to roll off. So just an interesting, you know, interesting take there. And, you know, a company that's in the mix and they're in, you know, they're in the AI space. They're in the growth space. They're, you know, the Amazon of technology. So it's a pretty interesting take there from Alibaba. Well, we're looking forward to hearing about Bill and Jeff's escapades down there in Sarasota. We're looking forward to hearing how those meetings go and hearing from the folks out there. Always feel free to reach us at GundersenCapital.com. You can always give Edie a call, get on my calendar, get on Jeff's calendar, get on Bill's calendar. We're happy to take a look at how you're positioned and if we could help in any way. Give us a ring, 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378. Have a great day, everyone.
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