The conversation soon shifts from personal reflections to the political scene, shedding light on an unusual occurrence regarding a political candidate's social media following. The discussion turns critical as they address Zoran Mamdani's politicking, numbers, and influence. Humor and skepticism intermingle as they dissect these digital metrics and their potential symbolism. The conversation further evolves into a scrutiny of Democratic policies and leaders, probing how certain political figures might influence America’s future. Gallagher’s sharp wit and insightful commentary provide listeners with engaging and thought-provoking discourse.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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I've been in a spiritual mood and I was getting ready for work today and I thought, why am I thinking about spiritual, theological, you know, faith-filled issues? You're about to go to Israel. I'm about to go to the Holy Land and And I told Joey as we're planning out the itinerary, and look, unfortunately, there's some precautions that you've got to take. I mean, we're going to have armed security with us. I don't know. I think it's relatively safe right now, but the peace... uh, deal is fragile. Um, there are still, you know, the potential for things to, but I told Joey, I've got one spot I want to go. And I, as many times as I've been, and we were trying to total it up the other day, I think it's, this is like my 12th, maybe 13th or 14th.
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It never gets, I'm told it never gets old. I've been precisely once in 2003 and it is wrapped around my heart so tightly to this day. So where is there someplace? What have you not done?
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It changes you. Oh, I think I've been everywhere you can go, but I want to go back to the Garden of Gethsemane. For some reason, that place really does speak to me and to just walk among those ancient olive trees and just take that all in. And look, good versus evil is as real today as it's ever been. It's as real as it was when Jesus walked the earth. Yeah. I came across something that creeped me out yesterday, and now people are going to make fun of me probably for even saying this. I looked at the Zoran Mamdani Twitter site, his ex-page.
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The follower's number?
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Did you see that? Did you see how many followers he's got?
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666,000.
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All right. Well, Mark, what?
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What? And you know what's funny? And all I posted yesterday was, holy crap, check out the numbers of followers he has. Gulp.
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If the free buses, you can't be convinced that that's stupid. And if the rent freeze, you can't be convinced that it's just a horrible idea. Let's just throw some Mark of the Beast down, and maybe that will somehow turn this election. Let's just call the anti-
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Call him the Antichrist and get it over with, you know? He's the Antichrist. We've got to stop the beast. But, no, it is true for the record. And if you notice some of the comments on my ex-account, and I hope you follow me at Gallagher's Show. We have a lot of followers from yesterday because I took on. our pal Hugh Hewitt and Sid Rosenberg out of New York because they're all about go vote Cuomo, vote Cuomo. Curtis ought to step down. Anyway, if you follow me on X, you'll see some of the comments where I said, holy crap, look at the number of followers he has. People thought I was remarking on how many followers he has. No, it's not how many followers he has.
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It's what the number is. Right, exactly. Exactly. Because, you know, honestly, for people that are as big a deal as he is, I mean, let's look at you and me. I mean, we got what we got, and we're very proud. But I would have thought that a communist Islamist New York mayoral candidate who's become the rock star of the moment, I'd think he'd have at least a mil. Oh, I thought he would have had at least a couple million. What does AOC have? I'll look while you talk.
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That number is going to stay at 660.
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That was the joke I made back. Listen, it's a number. It's like when the odometer goes to 100,000. It's a number. It's a real number, though. It's a number, all right. But if he gets, as this election draws closer and closer and closer, he clearly is getting thousands and thousands of new followers. But if that number stays at 666,000 on his Twitter feed, I think we're on to something.
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Now, can I hold your feet to the fire for a moment? Of course. You're mocking me. Do you not think this is kind of creepy? 666,000 followers on Twitter?
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I think he's creepy. Yes. I think his ideas are terrible. Yes. But they're not just, no, no, no, no. Don't say that. I think the incidental number of followers he has is numerological biffle.
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Go to the text line, 800-655-6453.
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Oh, by the way, that doesn't mean that I sneeze at any of the imagery or Mark of the Beast stuff. What do I know? But is this necessarily linkable to something?
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Evil is real.
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Oh, totally. Completely.
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I almost wonder if you're not marginalizing things a little bit when you say, well, I don't like his ideas.
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Mark, this is more than that.
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100%.
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So let me add to the paragraph and hopefully not spoil a good quality scolding from you. Every Democrat has bad ideas. let's stipulate, right, every Democrat, even the ones who we find fairly likable and affable, the degree to which he seeks to undermine some of the foundations of the great city of New York and the foundations of what makes our country great, it is insidious in ways that go far beyond what a normal Democrat's bad policy is.
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When somebody doesn't denounce the expression, globalize the intifada, When somebody is perfectly fine with posing for a photograph, smiling with a jihadist, a guy who was an unindicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, these aren't bad ideas. This is a bad person. This is terrible for New York. It's terrible for the country.
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Hey, I want to – let's end – Real quick, I've got the number before you take us down another wonderful rabbit hole. He has, as we've now documented, 666,000 followers. How many followers does AOC have? Take a stab. Two million. 12.7 million. She's a big deal, man. She's a big, big deal.
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Well, arguably, she's a bigger deal than Zoran Mamdani. Oh, I mean, nationally. Of course she is.
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She's a big national star.
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But see, doesn't he replace her as the face of the Democrats?
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No, no, no, of course not. Any more than Rudy Giuliani. The mayor of New York City is a very, very big thing. Zoran Mamdani, if he wins, will become one of the seven or eight most significant Democrats in the country. Maybe one of five, but number one, dude.
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Okay. All right. Well, I think you know why he's going to be No.
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1?
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Because we're going to make him No.
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1.
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We're going to make sure he's the creator.
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We're going to offer him so much, the light of attention will be shining so brightly on him, you won't know what hit him. It is true.
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Think about this. Before I go on to the next rabbit hole, as you put it, it is true, though, if he wins— Isn't he going to face some of the most massive, enormous pushback of any mayor in the history of the country?
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He will, and I hope it will matter. Did you watch J.B. Pritzker on with Brett Baier last night? Oh, you bet I did. It was a spanking. People think they go on Brett Baier. It's like, I'm not going on Hannity. It's not going to be so partisan. And by the way, it's not. Brett Baird destroyed J.B. Pritzker with nothing but objective facts. The reason I bring that up is J.B. Pritzker is a blight on America. He is a horrible governor. There are so many Democrats who are just outright horrible and we shine the light of attention on them and it's not like they buckle. It's not like they wither and go away. So I don't, yes, we will shine all kinds of attention on the ways in which Mayor Mom Donnie, I hope, destroys New York, but I I hope it'll matter, but I don't know that it necessarily will.
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Pritzker is clearly, clearly puffing up his considerable chest to run for president. This is a guy who I think wants to have – he has absolute national aspirations. And what they're doing is they're trying to be Trump 2.0. They're trying to be the Democrat version of Trump. To call ICE officers – Nazis to say that they need to be arrested. Some of them, Lori Lightfoot, they're saying, let's start arresting them. Let's start impounding their cars. Look, I appreciate Pam Bondi last night. She announced on Fox her favorite go-to place to go. Pam Bondi again saying, look, we're going to get all of their records. You impede... These are law enforcement officers. You know what I think part of the problem is? We call them ICE agents. And I don't like that term, even though that might be technically correct. It's like super agent, you know, 006. Secret agent, exactly. They're officers. They're law enforcement. If you're a cop in Grapevine, Texas, you have camaraderie with an ICE officer in New York City. Right.
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That's a wrap for a Friday. We'll be in New York City on Monday and then winging our way to Israel next week. I hope you can join us then. In the meantime, I hope you have a terrific weekend. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
Join professional money manager Bill Gunderson as he navigates the exciting world of rising markets, driven by surprisingly low CPI numbers. In this episode, Bill delves into the impact of tariffs and international trade negotiations including insights from the much-anticipated meeting between President Trump and Xi Jinping. As markets reach unprecedented highs, Bill explores the contributing factors, offering listeners a wealth of information on making sound investment decisions.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Friday. It is the Friday, October the 24th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only registered investment advisory firm. Wow, we are off to the races here today on a lower than expected basis. CPI report that almost ensures another rate cut, maybe two before the end of the year. And the Dow is hitting a new all-time high today. It is up 389 points to 47,123. The NASDAQ is up 201 points today to 22,941. And the S&P 500 is closing in on 6,800. It's hitting a new all-time high of up 60 points to 6,798. The small caps have joined the party today. They're up 1.5%. Russell 2000 is at 2,520 right now. And we have interest rates coming down a little bit after the cool CPI report. We're at 3.98 right now. Gold is down on that report, minus 1.6%. And Bitcoin right now is up 18.18 to 1,010,950. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I don't know if we got Jeff Webster today. Do we have Jeff with us? Bill, I'm here. Happy Friday to you. Oh, there he is. I thought he was at Costco getting knock worst and hot dogs for the big game tonight, Dodgers versus Toronto. But he is here with us. And this is unbelievable, Jeff. This is an all-time high on the S&P 500, almost 6,800. And I just want to remind folks, I'm the guy on April the 8th that wrote the article about when the S and P was at 4,800, I put my neck on the line. I said, I think the tariffs are going to work. This is a great buying opportunity. We've gone from 4,800 to 6,800. That is unbelievable. And of course we're tacking on more today here. Uh, lots of different things are driving this, but, uh, How about them Dodgers? You know, Jeff, I was thinking this truly is a World Series because you've got a U.S. team playing a Canadian team, and you've got the biggest star ever to come out of Japan leading off for the Dodgers, and obviously a lot of Latin American players in the mix.
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A lot of Dominicans, Venezuelans.
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Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. And you've got Yamamoto, right, who's a starting pitcher for the Dodgers. And Vlad Guerrero, obviously, I believe is Dominican. So it will be. It's just too bad. It comes on at 8 o'clock our time.
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Bill, you're allowed to stay a little later tonight.
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You're allowed to stay up a little later tonight. It's Friday. It's the weekend, Bill. I give you permission to stay up. You have to have your jammies on.
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Yeah, and looking at stock charts for the newsletter tomorrow. Hey, did you ever check into the price of tickets?
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Yes.
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Just give me some kind of idea. Yeah. If Lynn and I wanted to fly to – it starts in Toronto. If we wanted to fly to Toronto for tomorrow's game, how much do I have to pay for two decent tickets?
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Well, so as I was checking at the end of the Mariner Blue Jays series, the tickets in Toronto were about 40% higher than they were in Los Angeles, at least in terms of tickets. The least expensive ticket that I saw in L.A. was about $800.
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Well, that's not bad, but that's probably like way, way up at the top with Bob Euchre.
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Well, yeah, most of the seats, Bill, were going for $23,000, $3,000.
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That's what I thought, yeah, because we looked into tickets to Chicago and San Diego and And my wife likes good seats. She doesn't like sitting up in the... She doesn't like carrying oxygen to her seat. And there were like 3,000 apiece. I thought, you know, the best seats right here on my couch at home. And I'm glad I didn't go to Chicago to see the Padres get ousted. Anyways, okay, let's begin with more... While we're on this international news front, Putin responds to new U.S. sanctions... against Rosneft and Lukoil. So there's your Ezekiel 38, Chapter 38 update on Gog. If he's the guy, you know, he's not real happy over these sanctions. But he says, ah, you know, it's just an attempt to put pressure on Russia. And no self-respecting country ever does anything under pressure. And he claims that Russia is a self-respecting country. So I don't see... It does put pressure on him, but whether it gets him to agree to a ceasefire with Ukraine, I doubt that. Trump-Xi meeting next week. That's their first face-to-face meeting since Trump took office this year. That will happen this coming week. Trump is heading to Asia for a five-day trip this weekend. starting with Malaysia, and then he'll travel to Japan, where he'll meet the new prime minister. His last stop will be South Korea, where he'll meet Xi on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit on Thursday. So anyway, that will be interesting, and I think the market is at least glad that they're meeting, right? I mean, it's one thing to have a standoff and not talk to each other, which never results in anything, it's better to at least be talking face-to-face and see if things can be worked out. And, you know, I've said before, and I think the ultimate deal is rare earths for chips, for the high-speed chips. That seems to be the deal. And soybeans. Got to throw the soybeans in there with those chips for the American farmer. Now, meanwhile, up in Canada, while they'll be – They'll be playing two national anthems before the opening pitch of the World Series. Trump has canceled trade negotiations with Canada. Why? Because they played a Reagan ad in which Reagan, the great one, the great Ronald Reagan, decried tariffs, saying how negative tariffs are. That made Trump mad. And he has now called off all tariff negotiations with Canada.
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That was a coin play by our Canadians up there. I saw that ad, and I'm like, okay.
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You know, I got a hunch that the Canadians are going to boo the U.S. National Anthem if they play it. I imagine they would. I mean, well, we play a Canadian hockey team in the U.S. We sit through both national anthems. It will be there to see the Canadians' reaction.
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Yeah, I hope not. I mean, they're our friends. We need to stay in line with them. Hey, Bill, you mentioned the Dow, and I'm actually reading this book. 1929, and they're talking about the crash that occurred over 100 years ago, and they're referencing the Dow was trading in the high 100s, and low 200s and here we are at 47 000. yeah it's like unbelievable i remember as a young uh technology sales executive i was calling on shearson lehman and the guy was talking about he's like the market can you believe this market the dow is now at two thousand yeah and well when i got in the business i think it was around three thousand and here we have forty seven thousand
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There is a little sense of Roaring Twenties in the air, however. Not that I was around back then, but I remember they were building grand ballrooms and dancing the night away. I see Trump's got a little demolition on the White House and adding a grand ballroom to dance the night away. So we'll keep our eyes and ears, our ear to the ground for Roaring Twenties music, and hopefully we're not setting ourselves up for a 1929 crash. once again and bread lines anyways the consumer price index that's the real reason the market is celebrating today and when we come back we'll talk a little bit about beef prices now that we've talked about ticket prices to the world series airline prices and other things and why we got a cool cpi read we'll be right back
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He said, don't you know me? I'm your native son. I'm the train that calls the city of New Orleans. I'll be gone in 500 miles when the day is done.
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I'm your native son.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. You know, it's amazing what a tenth of a percent will do to the market. The market was expecting 0.4 on inflation for September, and instead it came in at 0.3. It's all in the numbers today. And that sets off a new high in the S&P 500, a new high, all-time high. These are all-time highs in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. I also sent out charts this morning before the market opened to my subscribers and clients that lost those alerts and those charts. I showed a chart of all three indexes, three different messages, and I said every one of these indexes still look bullish from a technical analysis point of view. Now, here's the bugaboo, Jeff, on this 0.3%. You know, look, I like a good steak and a good hamburger as much as anybody's. But do you know that uncooked ground beef up 12.9% year over year, uncooked beef roast up 18.4% year over year, and uncooked beef steaks up 16.6%, which is pretty unbelievable, the prices. Why are beef prices in the U.S. currently at record levels? Well, they're saying there are supply shortages driven by long-term drought, high feed costs, reduced cattle inventories, and strong consumer demand for beef. Notably, the national cattle herd is at its lowest level in decades. Severe droughts over the last five years have forced ranchers to reduce breeding herds as grazing lands and feed become scarce. The replenishment cycle is expected to take several years. In other words, no relief in sight. And I know that the U.S. cattle ranchers are a little upset that Trump is at least looking at, I think, Argentina and Brazil as possible sources for beef to bring the supply up and to drive prices down. I'm all for it, but the cattle ranchers aren't. I think over at Hall's Chopped House, Jeff, they've got a safe now that they keep the ribeye steaks in, and you'll have to know the combination to that. It's right next to the, what's the rare earth rhodium? So with rare earth rice is what they are, I think a porterhouse steak is right up there with the other.
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I think it's in line with candium.
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Yeah, Scandiam. Imagine if you're like a Lone Star State. You know, even McDonald's. I paid like $9.90 for just a cheeseburger at Shake Shack at the Charlotte Airport. And it wasn't very good to begin with. No tomatoes, no lettuce, no pickles, just a burger on a bun with some cheese, $9.86. Yes. But that's the way it goes. Airfares are also rising for the third straight month. I can't remember the last time I was on a flight that wasn't full and they weren't telling me to check my overhead baggage or maybe even climb up in there myself because of lack of space. So the airlines seem to be doing well. People are flying. I don't know. With this government shutdown, it's a little bit worrisome that there may not be a full staff up there in the air control tower. But airline prices, we probably flew this year more than any in a long time as a company. And I expect that to continue next year, Jeff. We've still got Houston to hit. We've still got Pittsburgh to hit. We've still got Denver to go to. And then, of course, Minnesota. We can't forget Minnesota. We're starting to build our audience there in Atlanta after being there for just a few months. And then, of course, we've got to get back to the Silicon Valley and Cleveland and Michigan, the Bloomfield Hills and Sarasota a few times. I see a lot of airfare in our future there, Jeff.
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It's great to be out there with the folks, and truly we enjoy the workshops that we have and also meeting with individuals one-on-one to hear their stories and to be able to help them grow their wealth, their retirement plans as they work on their different objectives in life.
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Yeah, you know, that face-to-face, there's no substitute for being there in person. I mean, you just can't do it over radio, Zoom, over the telephone. I love that face-to-face interaction with people, with people, with good people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Bill, you have me worried, though, now about these meat prices because tonight, maybe for the game, I'm going to have to do a salad because I did go to Costco a few weeks ago.
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Yes, do a nice chicken salad or something. Forget the burgers on the grill, man. Can you imagine the New York butcher shop going there and grabbing four – rib-eyes for the game tonight. Man, I'm telling you what. You can use Bitcoin, though, to buy them.
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I could take in a bar of gold that I could also buy from Costco.
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Okay, we've got Lily buying another company. Well, you know, when you've got a bunch of cash on hand, you can buy smaller biotechs that gives you a big advantage over the Pfizer's, the Merck's, of the world that don't have a drug like the GLP-1s. I went out to dinner with a group of folks earlier this week, and everyone at the table was on GLP-1 drugs. We had a lot of leftovers, Jeff, but it's still an expensive bill. How about a rare earth facility in Louisiana? Man, I love Louisiana. I went to the Cajun capital of the world there, Lafayette. My wife and I spent a couple of days in New Orleans when we drove out from San Diego, cross-country, moving from one coast to another coast. Love Louisiana. We don't have a show there. I did have a little show in New Orleans for about three or four months, but I don't think anybody was listening to the channel, except maybe for the crayfish down there in the swamps. But anyway, you've got a company, and I'm going to put this in my app, Clara Resources. Listen to this now. Right now it trades on the pink sheets. I'm going to put a chart in the newsletter. It's a $2 stock. It has a fantastic chart. Okay, so look, it's an interest story for me. The symbol is A-R-A-A-F. They said Friday they planned to build a 277 million heavy rare earth separation facility, the first type in the U.S. Now, this is the third one, Jeff. You may not know this, but in Sumter, South Carolina, we now have a refinery for rare earth. They're building one in Utah. And now this is the third one for the actual, what do you call it, refining of rare earth minerals. And it's going to happen in Louisiana. The symbol again, A-R-A-A-F. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air We've got to get together sooner or later Because the revolution
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Just a little bit more color, Jeff, on this refinery. I don't see the city where they'll be building this in Louisiana. But the interesting part of this story that I just figured out, this company is headquartered in Peru. It is a half-a-billion-dollar company. This is no small company. And they're a mining company engaging in the exploration and development of rare earth mineral resources in Chile, Brazil, and Peru. The company was incorporated in 2021 and is headquartered in Santiago de Cerco in Peru. So interesting that they would build the refinery in Louisiana. Yeah. But somebody, I do look at their key executives, and there are several Americans there, but I also see at the top, I see a lot of Peruvians. You know, the CEO, the CFO, the executive vice president are Peruvians. So there you go. You know, obviously South America has always been a mineral-rich region of the world, and somebody from the U.S. talk them into building a refinery to refine those heavy metals.
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It's probably distribution. It's the distribution. They're probably going to leverage the Mississippi River there and the shipping lanes that provide accessibility to being able to distribute their products.
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Yeah, maybe even a little railroad's involved there, too. I don't know.
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And, Bill, I'll tell you, I've been to South America numerous times on business, and that area north of Santiago, Chile, and the southern part of Peru is a desert area, but it is a mineral-rich area. For our listeners out there that are familiar with northern Mexico, Nevada, Nevada, or for that matter, all of Nevada, it looks very, very similar to that. And I think there's a lot of mining companies down there that, you know, pull a lot of stuff out of our good earth.
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I find that really interesting because, you know, Nevada obviously is a very unique country. landscape. You know, as you come from California, which you go through some pretty verdant area there when you go through, you know, Big Bear and Arrowhead and the Cajon Pass and all that with the pine trees and snow and everything. And then you hit the high desert, right? And then as you get up near Mountain Pass, and then as you start to drop down into Las Vegas, you just see that arid That heat, I mean, you can actually literally see mirages that look like water, and it's very salty. You've got the Bonneville salt flats up in that area. So that type of terrain and that type of heat must have something to do with producing rare earth minerals out of the good old earth. I find it interesting that you say that because that's where we're finding the rare earths. It's all right there in Nevada, it seems like, and Wyoming, a little bit of Wyoming, and Utah, which sounds like, would you compare that area geographically to those areas in America, Jeff?
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Yes, absolutely.
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I'm going to find some land in the middle of a salt flat where it gets up to 127 degrees in the summertime and hope to find rare earths someday, right? Well, is it better to buy companies that are hiring, or is it better to buy companies that are laying off? Target continues to be a disaster. It really does. But Jeffrey says, well, you know, Intel went through a huge round of layoffs, and I guess finally a washout occurs, and if they're going to bounce back, you know, it's going to happen after they really clean house and kind of reboot the entire company. That's going on both at Intel and at Target. Target is laying off 1,800 middle management jobs, and, of course, that's Minneapolis. I've met with many people over the years in our trips to Minneapolis. One lady went back to the original Dayton or Hudson. I don't remember which one before it was ever Targeted. And, you know, a lot of connections there in that area to target it. It's kind of sad to see what they're going through. But you know what? They're going through some heavy layoffs and some analysts. Now, that's a different kind of investing. We do relative value.
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Yeah, we talked a little bit about that yesterday, Bill. You know, the CEOs, they can control that expense line. Yes. if there's an issue with expense, then their way is to cut costs. And, you know, your employees are your most expensive asset. And if you can reduce that, it certainly helps. You know, it doesn't engender them with the community and with their, you know, with their employees. But I just, I saw yesterday, and I'm trying to remember the company, that the CEO actually came out and said, I'm eliminating 9,000 jobs and replacing it with AI. I think it was Salesforce. I think it was Salesforce. I think it was very, very old. And some people were saying, well, finally you have a CEO that is being straightforward about what's truly happening here.
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Yes, I'm pretty sure it was Benioff, who also is drawing a lot of ire from the Silicon Valley because he called for the ICE raids in the Bay Area and San Francisco. And, of course, there's wide-scale protests. I was watching some of them on TV last night, and they were calling out Benioff specifically. They don't want the ICE raids in San Francisco. Of course, they're a sanctuary city. And they've developed apps to point out where the ICE agents are and this and that. It's quite a big controversial thing. And there's a few CEOs that they're calling out, including Elon Musk and Benioff, as far as these ICE raids taking place. Well, they're trying to also bring down crime in San Francisco and some of these crime-ridden cities. I know there's two sides to every story. Okay, this is a good news story. I'm the guy who had the audacity to say back in April 8th, after listening to our good Treasury Secretary Scott Besant being interviewed by Tucker Carlson, saying, you know what, this is going to work. They're on the right track. This has to be done, as painful as it may be. It has to happen, and it's going to reshape the world going forward as far as the trade deficits and everything and the balance of trade. Apple starts shipping American-made AI servers ahead of schedule. And guess where they're building these AI servers, Jeff? Not in Beijing, not in China, but in good old Houston, Texas. All right? So our hat is off to Apple that has begun shipping advanced AI servers from a factory in Houston, Texas, as a part of the iPhone maker's $600 billion commitment to boost U.S. manufacturing. I just have to think out loud. Isn't it better to have Houstonians from Texas working there? Then folks over in Shanghai, we're basically working under slave labor type conditions.
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Yes.
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I see that as a good thing. Absolutely. American-made servers.
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And certainly Texas is quickly becoming the data center hub for a lot of these. You know, Houston, of course, is one of the largest cities in the country, but they're also putting a number of data centers in some of the – I don't know if remote cities is the right term, but some of the cities up in the panhandle in West Texas, they're starting to put data centers up in those areas. And, again, I think they want to give Americans the opportunity to work for them, but also you have a cost of living and labor cost factor. variable to take into account. And those cities, Wyoming and whatnot, they provide a lot of those capabilities that make it attractive Also, the ability to draw on the power is not going to suck energy away from a major city to money oil down in that territory, right?
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And hopefully they'll have some nuclear. Now, listen to this. Apple announced this factory back in February of this year. They have built a 250,000 square foot facility. And here it is, October the 24th. They've got that thing up and running in eight months. That is incredible. It's absolutely incredible. We're now building AI servers in Houston. And like you say, it has one of the biggest populations of any city in America. Most people don't realize it. And it's definitely on our itinerary. I'm going to print up some tour schedule shirts. We'll sell shirts at our rock concert when we come to Houston, Jeff. But Houston is definitely on the bus tour stop in 2026. and welcome back here to the final segment of today's best stocks now go couple stocks uh we'll get a couple in here before the end of the show uh you hear me talk about procter and gamble a lot uh the pride of cincinnati and uh You know, I remember in the early days of my career when the wholesalers used to come around trying to sell their mutual funds, trying to get us to buy their mutual funds for our clients. I remember one guy, he brought in a bag of consumer staples, Jeff, and he would pull one thing out, toothpaste. Here's how you start your day. He'd pull out a bottle of shampoo. He'd pull out a bar of soap. He'd pull out some deodorant. He'd pull out some toothpaste and on and on and on. And he would talk about their mutual fund that was full of all of these consumer staples. Of course, Johnson & Johnson, the baby powder and on and on and on. And how these are things that you come use every single day. Why not invest in them? Well, unfortunately, they have not been very good investments over the years. Let's take Procter & Gamble, for instance, okay? Yes, it's a great company. Yes, they have products in many consumer categories. But an investment in PG, and I also bring this up because it is in almost every portfolio that comes to me. From a big wire house firm or even one of the big regional firms, everybody has Procter & Gamble in it, all of them, Jeff, almost without exception. Over the last five years, an investment in PG has delivered 3.9% per year. 3.9% per year. Why? Well, because the earnings growth rate has been 4.9% per year. And I cannot emphasize enough that correlation between earnings and stock price. Stock price appreciation comes from growth in earnings. Jeff, if your earnings are flat, let's take Target, for instance. The only way you're going to grow your earnings is by laying people off and cutting expenses, right? And you can only do so much of that before you don't have enough people to do the work anymore. You've got to have growing sales, and you've got to have growing earnings. And when those earnings level off, When sales level off, you become a very mediocre investment for investors. Why then does Wall Street love, absolutely love a stock like Procter & Gamble? And the consensus that I've come to in asking a lot of CEOs and a lot of different investment advisors and people in the industry is, You're never going to get sued by a client by owning Procter & Gamble. It's a blue-chip stock. The arbitrator is never going to agree that you put them into an unsuitable stock in Procter & Gamble, and that seems to be the reason. But look at the opportunity cost, Jeff.
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Kay Farber, it's a protectionist type of strategy, which for some folks could work. But if you're in the business of growth and capital appreciation, it certainly is not anything that is going to get you where you want to go.
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Well, I mean, the whole purpose of investing in the first place and saving up for retirement is having your retirement funds grow. I've seen a lot of people, the worst example I ever saw, was a woman that I actually knew in San Diego. And she worked for French's Mustard her whole life as a sales rep. And I don't know who owned French's now, probably Procter & Gamble. I don't know, one of the big conglomerates, Kraft maybe. But everything she put into her 401k, she just put it in the money market. And she looked at it as savings as opposed to investing. And where she should have had $800,000 or $900,000 with all the years that she worked there and invested, she had very little. I mean, she had like $150,000 in her 401k because she was earning 2% or 3% per year over that period of time. Number one, you're putting money away in a tax-deferred vehicle where the growth compounds and grows tax-free. tax-deferred until at such time you start to take money out. So you have a huge advantage in that you don't have to pay taxes on your gains every year like you do in a taxable account. And it just doesn't make sense to me to invest in mediocre companies, mediocre ETFs, mediocre bond funds, or mediocre mutual funds, When you have a tax-deferred vehicle that you're dollar-cost averaging into over time, that thing should swell over time. Look, when I got into the market, the Dow, if you just put it in the Dow index or the S&P 500 index, over the last 20 years, the S&P has averaged 20%. And then you've got a mediocre stock in today's world, Procter & Gamble, which has delivered about a 4% return over the last five years. So I think that kind of enforces my point a little bit of why we look for better stocks out there. Tonight, when you watch the World Series, you're going to see 25 very good players on one side and 25 very good players on the other side. They've made it to the World Series. They're the best of the best. And I just say, if you've got a portfolio and you've got 25 or 30 spots in that portfolio, why take up valuable space in a tax-deferred vehicle with mediocrity? And that's why we do things just a little bit differently. Now, that doesn't mean you have to go out on a limb. with leveraged single-stock ETFs and cryptocurrencies and penny stocks and all kinds of private debt and private equity and this and that. No, just look at the Dow. Look at the S&P index, what it's done over the last 20 years. These are the biggest and the best out there. But even amongst them, you still have to cherry-pick. Okay, well, we're out of time. I'm going to be working on the newsletter this weekend, the big picture podcast. Valuation is becoming very important once again. Get four free weeks at GundersenCapital.com. If you want to look and have us review your portfolio, give us a call. Set up an appointment at 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-BEST. We'd be glad to talk to you and see if maybe we can tweak things a little bit for you. Have a great day. Have a great weekend, everybody.
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Join Kim Monson as she delves into the challenging topics of today's political and societal landscape. In this episode, the discussion focuses on the freedom versus force dichotomy, examining how legislation impacts our lives right down to local governance in Colorado. With insights on zoning challenges and the role of globalist agendas, listeners are encouraged to critically engage with issues that affect their daily lives. Additionally, Kim dives into a lexicon lesson with the word 'gadfly,' exploring its meaning and application in modern discourse.
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It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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An early childhood taxing district? What on earth is that?
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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I don't think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can't understand that.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Friday and Joe, we have gotten a lot done this week.
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Yes, ma'am. We have great work.
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Great work as well. As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff. whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedomhood, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that plays out at the United Nations, but it's playing out all the way down to our local governments as well. through zoning changes and comprehensive plans, all kinds of things like that. And we're seeing that in a number of municipalities right here in Colorado. And then we see the Colorado State Legislature and the governor have passed legislation and he signed it to take more control of our local communities and push density, putting people into teeny tiny apartments and wanting them to ride around on bikes and walk and buses and trains. That's the opposite of freedom that has force all over it and coercion. People want to live in an apartment and they want to ride the bus or a train or a bike or walk. That's great that they should have that choice, but it should not be subsidized nor coerced, subsidized by us or coerced by the government. On the show, we focus on these issues and Instead of personalities, we're really trying to stay out of the emotion and the passion and really dissect these issues with reason. And so we will continue to do that on the show. Do check out my website, which is KimMonson.com, if you've not signed up for the weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. please do so because you will get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And then also while you are at the website, at the top of the website is a red ribbon, and you can just... Click on that, and you can download our voter's guide. Just put in your name and your address, and it's extensive regarding both of the statewide issues as well as the five Denver bond issues. It does include descriptions from CML, Colorado Municipal League, on different issues that are on a number of different ballots. Fort Collins is out of their mind with some of the things that they're asking. Really, those things, you should answer no. to those things. And then also I included the county clerk's phone numbers so you can reach out to them to get more information about candidates. Also for your local elections, reach out to your city clerks. They'll give you the phone numbers or emails of the candidates. And it's important that you do your research. And I did give you some suggested questions to ask these different candidates for city council and mayor. And then also regarding school board races, there's a lot of school board races. A great tool on that or resource on that is transformcolorado.org. And that is transformcolorado.org. So do check that out as well. Also, I did not include in the voter's guide information. I live in the South Metro Fire and Protection District, and they are on my ballot requesting $50 million annually and not even really discussing that. the merits on that because we've already had significant property increases, property tax increases. So I'm not sure about that. I've not analyzed that. But what I do know is they are asking to de-tabor or de-bruce the additional revenue, excess revenue that they might collect above that $50 million. And I think that's quite greedy. Instead of just $50 million, they're asking for it all. And it's kind of sneaky. This has been happening for quite some time on many of these different ballot questions. And I first noticed it on a South Suburban Recreation and Park District bond and didn't quite understand what was going on because I had people that said, oh, that's been de-tapered, that's been de-bruised. And this is what they have been doing is sneaking that into the language. So we say no on that until these districts and when they start to ask for money that they stay to what they're really asking instead of all the excess revenue. So I'm recommending a no on that as well. And I think that you can probably take that as analysis for anything that's being asked for on your district or on your ballot as well. It is Friday, and first thing, I will share the word of the day with you, and it's gadfly. And my former producer, Steve, and I had been trying to get together, and he and I went out and looked at a project the other day, and he brought up the word gadfly, and it's spelled G-A-D-F-L-Y. And number one, a definition could be a persistent, irritating critic, a nuisance. Number two, it could be one that acts as a provocative stimulus, a goad. And number three, any of various flies, especially a warble fly, bot fly, or horse fly that bite or annoy livestock and other animals. And I would say that the no kings rallies is really a gadfly regarding those that are fighting for the American idea. And so your challenge, though, is to use gadfly, G-A-D-F-L-Y, in a sentence today. The big... Actually, I think I'll do some of these headlines. Well, I think that the big news right now, and it seems to have the Democrats... And remember, this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or your grandfather or your grandmother. This Democrat Party has been taken over by radical activists, many of them that don't like America. And... So Trump, they're demolishing the east wing of the White House. And it was a complex built in 1902, significantly expanded in 1942. And he is building a White House state ballroom. And it had served as the office for the first lady and her staff, including the White House social sector secretary, correspondent staff and White House graphics and calligraphy office. And there was a colonnade in between the East Wing and the White House. And that's being torn down for this new ballroom. Okay. As I'm doing a little more research, I looked at this, and this is from Axios Denver. This says, this Denver company donated to Trump's $300 million ballroom. And that is Palantir, which is an AI company. And they're among one of the corporate donors footing part of the bill for the ballroom. And They have deep ties with the Trump administration. As you all know, I'm very concerned about data collection on Americans. And Palantir is doing a lot of military work. I have some neighbors that stopped and said, hey, Kim, we really think they're a great company. They are... focused on our American security, and we think it's a great company. And it's probably like anything. This information could be used for good, as far as taking out bad guys, but I'm very concerned about data collection on all of us. But anyway, they are one of the donors to the White House new state policy, And then this is from USA Today. Some of the other companies that are helping to foot the bill are Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, and Apple. Others include Coinbase, Ripple, and Tether. And so... Anyway, he's having these, I think the thing I get concerned about is making sure that the line of influence is not crossed over. And so it can be tricky, but that's one of the reasons why it's important that we talk about it and shed light on it so that we are all aware of it. It is Friday, so that means that today's quote is from the Center for American Values quote book. And I talked to Henry Jones, who is head of the board, yesterday, and he said so many of our listeners will be down at the center and they'll say, hey, how did you hear about us? And they said the Kim Monson show. And then he said that many people say, oh, I've got to bring my kids back, my parents, my friends. And the portraits of valor of our Medal of Honor recipients with their quotes is really a special, special place. So they did create a Medal of Honor quote book, which is a great gift for Christmas or for Hanukkah. And on Fridays, we take a quote from that. And today's quote is from Melvin Morris. United States Army Medal of Honor recipient born in 1942. Actions that he took on September 17, 1969. And this is his citation. It says, Staff Sergeant Melvin Morris distinguished himself by acts of gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty while serving as commander of strike force drawn from Company D, 5th Special Forces Group, Airborne 1st Special Forces. forces during combat operations against an armed enemy in the vicinity of Chi Lang, Republic of Vietnam, on September 17, 1969. On that afternoon, Staff Sergeant Morris affiliated companies encountered an extensive enemy minefield and were subsequently engaged by a hostile force. Staff Sergeant Morris learned by radio that a fellow team commander had been killed near an enemy bunker. and he immediately reorganized his men into an effective assault posture before advancing forward and splitting off two men to recover the team commander's body. Observing the maneuver, the hostile force concentrated its fire on Staff Sergeant Morris's three-man element and successfully wounded both men accompanying him. After assisting the two wounded men back to his force's lines, Staff Sergeant Morris charged forward into withering enemy fire with only his men's suppressive fire as cover. While enemy machine gun emplacements continuously directed strafing fusillades against him, Staff Sergeant Morris destroyed the positions with hand grenades and continued his assault, ultimately eliminating four bunkers. Upon reaching the bunker nearest the fallen team commander, Staff Sergeant Morris repulsed the enemy, retrieved his comrade, and began the arduous trek back to friendly lines. He was wounded three times as he struggled forward, but ultimately succeeded in returning his fallen comrade to a friendly position. Staff Sergeant Morris's extraordinary heroism and selflessness above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army. And this is what he said. 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Indeed, it is Friday, and welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from oil, natural gas, and coal, which are naturally occurring hydrocarbons that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And it is election season, and it's important that you know the candidates. There's a number of school board races out there right now. And very pleased to have on the line with me Lori Goble. She is running for school board for the Thompson School Board. Lori, welcome to the show.
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Thank you very much, Kim. I appreciate you having me on this morning. Well, tell us a little bit about yourself, Lori. Just very quickly, I was born and raised in the Midwest. I've been living here in Loveland for over 22 years and have been very involved in our community and a lot in as far as Non-profits, my husband and I, we pastor a church, Faith Now Ministries, or Faith Now Fellowship, actually. We had Faith Now Ministries when we were going and doing prison ministry for over 18 years. And I have a record of service for the community here in Loveland. I served on the Planning Commission two years as chair, as well as other activities that I've been involved in.
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Okay, so you're running for school board. Why?
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The simple why is because of my grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I see what the need is here in Thompson and I can invest here in Thompson. This younger generation. A lot of times the parents are so busy with their jobs running their children from one activity to another, whether it's school activities or other things. And they just do not have the time to run a campaign and to be seated on the school board. I, however, having already raised my children, have that time and the energy to do that. And these are the peers of my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren. This is the upcoming generation, and we have to invest in it and invest wisely.
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So I agree with you. We have such a responsibility for our children, our grandchildren. And what do you think are the main issues that you are concerned with that might be happening at Thompson School District?
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First and foremost is the education. The number one job of our schools is We have our schools in place to educate the children and the CMAS scores continue to decline. We have 60 plus percent of children that are not proficient at grade level. And when we are taking our tax money, our taxpayers dollars and investing it in our children, that's not a very good return. We need to be doing better. And especially for the children, they need to be fully equipped, which is one of the main points of my campaign is we need to make sure our children are fully equipped when they graduate high school, that that diploma means something and that they are actually truly prepared for a future filled with success.
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Well, graduating kids that are 60% proficient is not success. I know that many times people look at graduation rates, but it's not graduation rates we should really look at. It's proficiency. And if kids cannot read, proficiently by third grade, it makes it more difficult for them to have success in the future. And according to at least when I was in school a long time ago, Lori Goebbels, if I got 60% on something or less than 60%, that's a D or an F. So we're not doing a very good job on this, right?
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We are not doing a very good job. And as far as the proficiency, they are classifying that 60% are not at grade level. And many times it's more than one grade level. I mean, it's not just that they're falling behind. It's that they are multiple grade levels below where they should be. And that's, what's very disturbing, whether it's in re and it looks at, you have to look at the different subjects. And that varies from subject to subject, whether it's math or reading and the different grade levels. We are not getting the outcome that our children deserve.
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Well, and I think also what the community is paying for. Lori Goebbels, thank you for stepping forward to run for Thompson School Board. How can people get more information about you?
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Very simply, it's VoteLoriGobel.com is my website. So once again, VoteLoriGobel, G-O-E-B-E-L.com. And I encourage everybody to get involved in one effort. fashion or another and invite them to step up and especially spread the word that we have some great candidates out there and I would appreciate their vote. Thank you.
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Okay. Lori Goebel and Lori is spelled L-O-R-I and Goebel is G-O-E-B-E-L. Lori, thank you so much.
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Thank you so much, Kim. You have a wonderful day.
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You as well. And any candidate that reaches out to me, I will find some time to get them onto the show because I think it's so important that we hear from these candidates. And we have Mary Buchanan on the line with us, and she is a candidate also for Thompson School Board. Mary Buchanan, welcome. Thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you helping me spread the word. Absolutely. So Mary, tell us a little bit about you. Yeah. Um, I was born and raised in here in Loveland, Colorado. Um, I come from a family of 10 kids and we are all a product of TSD schools, Thompson school district. And I also have a daughter in the district. Um, um, you know, really proud to keep that, uh, legacy continue. I have really strong roots in the community. My family has been very active doing a lot of community outreach and community service. My daughter and I volunteer at the Vets Club for Thanksgiving dinner. I've done a lot of volunteer work in her school as well as with just different places around the country trying to help people with low incomes with their house repairs and things like that.
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Okay. Well, so the next question is the why. Why have you thrown your hat in the ring for Thompson School District School Board?
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Well, you know, like my father taught me when I was a kid, just by watching what he did, you know, I see a need and I know that I have the responsibility and the ability to fill it. So I'm seeing, you know, I feel like parents have taken a backseat in their children's education for far too long, and I think that we need to be able to be at the forefront of all the conversations involving our children. There's a pretty huge wedge between the parent-educator-child bond, and I think we need to bridge that gap if we want to have any success in moving forward as a district and bettering our, our children and our future. And, uh, you know, I think that a lot of the, like Lori mentioned, uh, the academics are really falling behind early on, which is, you know, the crucial point where we need to be instilling this, these abilities in our children. And, and it's just, not setting kids up for success. And I think that if parents were more involved in everything and if we focused more on the basic academics and not so much all the social aspects that should be handled between parents and their children, I think we could really make a huge difference in our schools and our test scores and just shaping our children's futures.
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So what's one of the first things that you would like to do if elected to Thompson School Board?
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Well, the first thing I'd like to do is try to find a way to bridge the communication gap between the district leadership, parents, staff. I think there's a lot of tension, and I don't know that there's a lot of – being brought to the table because the communication isn't there. The conversations are pretty hostile, I think, just in this political environment anyway. And I would love to nothing more than to try to mediate those conversations and find real solutions that benefit everybody.
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Okay. Well, how can people get more information about you, Mary Buchanan, who is a candidate for Thompson School District?
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Yeah, so I have a website called Mary4TSD.com. That's Mary, the word for F-O-R-T-S-D for ThompsonSchoolDistrict.com. And then I also have, if you want to join in on the conversation, Facebook.com slash Mary4TSD. Okay. And my last name is spelled B-U-C-H-A-N-A-N.
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Okay. Well, Mary, thank you so much for stepping forward. Now the election ballots are due back by November 4th. And so again, thank you. And that is Mary for, which is spelled out F-O-R-T-S-D, standing for ThompsonSchoolDistrict.com. Thank you so much. And I wish you all kinds of luck. Thank you so much, Kim. You have a good day. Absolutely. These are such important conversations. We have them because of our sponsors. We'll be talking with them in the next hour. And that is Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with the Second Syndicate.
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SPEAKER 15 :
Hi, Kim. Good morning. Thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 19 :
Good to have you. And people can. Well, what is your Web site to get all the information about you?
SPEAKER 15 :
Sure. Well, I'm writing pretty much exclusively now on Substack. So Robert Bryce dot Substack dot com.
SPEAKER 19 :
And Bryce is spelled B-R-Y-C-E. And you've done three very important documentaries. And one is Juice, Power, Politics, and the Grid. Another one is Juice, How Electricity Explains the World. And then we had had you on and talked about this one sunblock, The Global Fight to Save Farmland from Big Solar. These are very important documentaries, Robert Bryce.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you, Kim. I'm proud of all of them. The first film we made in 2019, Juice, How Electricity Explains the World, is a feature-length documentary. It's 90 minutes. I'm very proud of that. With my colleague Tyson Culver, we did another project called Juice, Power, Politics, and the Grid, which is a five-part docuseries. They're both free on YouTube. You can go to juicetheseries.com or juicethemovie.com. And then with my daughter, Mary, I just made a very, what I call a mini documentary called Sunblock, which is the global fight to save farmland from big solar. We made it here in Texas. Just to give you a quick example, why did I write it? Because in the three-county area near Temple, Texas, in Bell Falls and Milam County, Kim, There have already been over 40 square miles of prime ranch and farmland in central Texas have been paved with solar panels. I mean, it's insanity. I'm pro-solar, but this fight to save farmland is happening all around the world, and we use Texas as an example of how local people are saying, we don't want these projects here, and we don't want to be giving up prime farmland to solar.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and the thing about it is that solar is living off of favorable governmental policies or maybe tax incentives or tax credits or a variety of things. So it's not a free market. It's a coerced market. getting all of these solar panels in or wind turbines as well. But connecting the dot of taking prime farm and ranch land out of production, that will increase the prices of things at the grocery store in the urban areas. If we keep this up, we're going to have shortages, Robert Price.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I mean, that may be, Kim, you know, that's projecting out of the future. I think what, you know, to me, what the more immediate issue is, what this is doing to rural communities. And so to me, the issue is it's all the land use policy and energy policy are two sides of the same coin. When you have energy policy, you're determining land use and land use determining energy policy. But what we're seeing all over the world, I mean, let's just look in Colorado. So big, big fights in Colorado over the siting of solar and wind projects. But just this summer, if you look where you're in Denver, look at what happened in Elbert and El Paso counties in June and July, where you had the entire county commissions in those counties vote unanimously to refuse permission to Xcel Energy to build that high voltage project to the Power Pathway Colorado project. through their counties. And why was Xcel wanting to do it? Because of the mandates in Colorado for alternative energy, for renewables. And so these land use issues are, yes, it's about saving farmland. Yes, it's about local communities fighting wind and solar projects and keeping the character of their communities. But it's also about the transmission projects. So All of these land use conflicts are happening all over the world. I've documented them in the Renewable Rejection Database. It's the story in the energy business.
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So what's happened with that, because I went down and testified in Elbert County because that's in my backyard, and these county commissioners in El Paso County and Elbert County are really, I think, courageous in standing for for their constituents. In my comments, I said, you represent your constituents and their property rights, and you don't work for Xcel Energy. And Xcel Energy had all kinds of, they had two lines of tables of consultants and attorneys there. And those commissioners listened to every farmer and rancher, every property owner that was there. which I have to give them credit for as well. And here was all of these farmers and ranchers taking time away from producing on their farms and ranches to make comments at this public hearing. And yes, the Elbert County commissioners voted no to deny the permit. Robert, the permit, Excel's permit was not even complete. But now what has happened is Excel has sued both Elbert County and El Paso County. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, hello, Kim. I mean, aren't you cute? Big money is going to try and roll over small town America. I mean, this is what's happened over and over and over and over and over again. Out of state, often out of country, foreign corporations go into rural communities, and if they don't get what they want, they try to roll over them. I've seen this over and over again, whether it's solar projects, whether it's wind projects. Another example, a big utility, NextEra Energy, the biggest producer of alternative energy in the world. Went into Hinton, Oklahoma a few years ago. The town of Hinton said, we don't want these wind turbines so close to the town. What did NextEra do? They sued them in state and federal court. So what Excel is doing in Colorado is this is the playbook. Big corporate interest in a land grab, which is what this is fundamentally at root. What is this? It's a land grab to try and satisfy this craze around alternative energy. That's it. Full stop.
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OK. Any other comments on that? Because Excel's been out there threatening eminent domain with many of these small ranchers and farmers and scaring them. And they're like, I don't have the amount of money that's needed to hire attorneys to fight this. So what would be your advice to them?
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Well, one, look at the renewable rejection database, which is on my website at robertbrice.com. I guess my first point is you're not alone, right? These battles that rural Americans, rural Coloradans, rural, you know, we see this in England, Scotland, Ireland, which, by the way, just since the first of the year in England, Ireland and Scotland, there have been 53 rejections of wind or solar projects. So these land use conflicts are not unique. You know, these farmers, these ranchers, these local merchants, you know, I tell them, you know, you're special, but you're not unique. You know, this is happening all over the world. The second thing is that what I've seen over and over is that when rural communities get together and they have a coordinated opposition, they can win. So, you know, that would be my, you know, 1A, don't lose heart. You're not alone. When people, when they band together, they can fight big money and big corporate interests.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. While you're there, click on the red ribbon at the top of the website and you will put in your name and your email address and you will receive a link to download my voter's guide, which I hope will be a great tool for you as you are completing your ballot, which is due back on November 4th. I can't believe that November is right around the corner. And so is Veterans Day, which is November 11th. On November 8th, the USMC Memorial Foundation will be hosting an event out at the USMC Memorial. And it's so important to honor and remember those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our veterans. for our freedom. And of course, Veterans Day is a time to honor our veterans. And you can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I'm so pleased to be talking with Robert Price. He's an author, speaker, film producer. He's been writing about energy, power, politics, and innovation for more than three decades. Check out these important documentaries he's done, Sunblock, The Global Fight to Save Farmland from Big Solar, Juice, How Electricity Explains the World, and Juice, Power Politics and the Grid. That website is robertbryce.com, and you can find him at Substack and Robert Bryce as well. And I get your emails that highlight what you're looking at, Robert, and I'm so interested, so many questions about these SMRs, which are small modular reactors, so nuclear reactors. So for people that don't know what they are exactly, explain that, please.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sure. So we've been using nuclear power here in the U.S. now since the 50s, right? And in the last few years, there's been a resurgence in interest in nuclear for a lot of reasons, including climate change, including now the over-reliance on the electric grid, on natural gas, on pro-natural gas. But I fear that we're becoming too reliant on it and the situation is playing out in Colorado in a major way. But the reactors that we've been building, including the two that have been completed most recently here in the U.S., Vogel 3 and Vogel 4 in Georgia, which is owned by Georgia Power, the reactors are owned by Georgia Power, which is part of Southern Company. Those projects, those reactors are over 1,000 megawatts. Well, they're very big, and the projects cost, they were over budget and over time, and ultimately cost over $30 billion. Well, so the alternative that has been developing now for years are small modular reactors with the idea that Instead of building gigawatt scale, that is 1,000 megawatts and above, giant reactors, we would build smaller ones. So they would be from anywhere from, say, 1 to 2 to 5 megawatts to 300 megawatts. That's kind of what's the general scale of what falls under this term SMR, small modular reactor. So what is going on now... In the U.S. and around the world, there's a race to develop and deploy these. And as I've written many times, the U.S. is far behind China and Russia when it comes to the development and deployment of these SMRs. That said, there's an enormous amount of interest, there's an enormous amount of capital that is flowing into the U.S. companies that are in this space. A number of them have gone public, including Oklo, NuScale, and then there are other companies that are developing these that are already established, including GE, Vernova, BWX Technologies. There's a lot of promise here, and I'm very hopeful. I'm also very sober about the future of small modular reactors because there are a lot of hurdles that have to be overcome.
SPEAKER 19 :
So what do they look like? How much land do they take up?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, this is the key that we were talking before the break about wind and solar and the need to connect them to the best wind and solar resources are far from cities. That means you have to build high voltage transmission lines from rural areas into the cities. But that's the great thing about small modular reactors is they have very small footprints, and they can be located close to the power demand. So one of the drivers of a lot of this interest in SMRs is big tech, because AI, of course, as everyone knows now, is requiring enormous amounts of power. You've seen big tech companies like Amazon sign deals with small modular reactor companies. Amazon did one with a company called X-Energy to do gas-cooled reactors. Kairos, another startup SMR company, has a deal with Google Microsoft is going to do an offtake agreement with a nuclear reactor at Three Mile Island. So these are important developments because big tech, these companies, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Amazon, have essentially unmanned. limited amounts of money to throw at this. And they need staggering amounts of power. So, yes, they're building gas power plants now, but they're looking to the future and putting some of their money and bets on small modular reactors.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. So, as you mentioned, there's a lot of money that's going into this. Another one of your articles is you're following these IPOs, these initial public offerings. And I... For... Earlier in my life, I was in the investment business. I also had worked on a stock trading desk. And so I know all the fervor that can occur around these IPOs that can really inflate the price of the stock after it comes to market because of all the hype and interest. So there's a lot of... After I read your article, I felt there was a lot of hype regarding these IPOs.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my gosh. Hype is the right word. Just to give you one example, so... This was earlier this month. Fermi or Fermi America is the proper name. But Fermi trades under the ticker FRMI went public. And this is a company that was co-founded by the former secretary of energy, Rick Perry. Kim, this is a company. They say they're going to build gas fired power plants and nuclear reactors on a site near Amarillo, Texas, to fuel data centers and A.I., This is a company that has no tangible assets. They're not building anything. All they have, effectively, is a business plan. And yet, their market cap of this company is now something like $12 billion. It's cartoonish. Or look at NuScale Power, a company that I first wrote about in 2008. It's traded publicly under the ticker SMR. I haven't checked today, but I think the market cap of that company is still around $5 billion. They've never built a reactor. This is a company that has been losing money hand over fist. They lost $3,400 million last year. They still have this extravagant valuation. And I would short that company if I was smart enough to go short. I'm barely smart enough to go long. I was thinking the same thing. The hype around these companies is just unbelievable. And who can blame them by going public if they can cash in on the public markets? That's what they're going to do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. But the trick with shorting the stock or the market is the timing. And so you never know about that. So that can be quite, quite tricky. Next question. And I'll just say, and we're not giving any market advice, but it is a function of markets. When things get overvalued and overinflated, there will be a correction at some point. We just never know exactly when that's going to be. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
And a lot of this is tied, just to be clear, a lot of this is tied to AI. Right. And there's a, you know, what we, you know, Greenspan would have called irrational exuberance. Right. That, you know, all of this money flowing into AI companies and they're spending staggering amounts of money. But are these companies, these big tech companies, are they ever going to make money on AI? But for the moment, there seems an almost infinite amount of money available for those entities that say, we can build the power plants to power data centers for AI. And so there's just staggering sums of money flowing into that. And in the near term, it's all essentially effectively going into natural gas-fired power plants. But I'm hopeful that over the next 10 years or so, we will see the SMR business mature and start to deploy at gigawatt scale the kind of reactors that are going to be needed to diversify the power on our grid.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, next question. AI, again, there's a lot of hype around that, but we see these big data centers that are being built. I'm concerned about data collection on Americans. I'm concerned how that matches up against the Fourth Amendment. That's probably another discussion. Is that anything you comment on, Robert Price?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, Kim, that's really not my bailiwick. I agree with you that it's a concern, but maybe I'm cynical about this, but I think in the modern world, privacy is dead. I just think there's the big tech and these other companies, the credit and scoring agencies, everybody. I'm easy to find, right? I'm a fairly public person, but I've done investigative work, and it's not hard to find data on pretty much anyone.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that is true. We have just a few minutes left. We've all heard dangers of Chernobyl, nuclear, and it's scary. The Jane Fonda movie years ago, the China syndrome, all that. What's the danger with these SMRs, these small modular reactors?
SPEAKER 15 :
The danger is that we don't build them. The reality is that the fear of radiation has been much more dangerous than radiation itself. The Sierra Club, Greenpeace, NRDC, these big NGOs that claim to care about climate, these are retrograde organizations. These groups have hurt the American economy by their fear-mongering around nuclear energy. They've hurt our grid. These entities are... I really find them to be loathsome in many ways because of how they've used propaganda to fight the development and deployment of nuclear energy in America over the last five decades. And so the public sentiment, I'll cut to the chase, the public sentiment around nuclear has changed. We have a much more pro-nuclear electorate than we did a few years ago. And I think that's very positive. And I think there's a lot of momentum behind nuclear energy. And I'm very hopeful. I'm sober about it, but I'm very hopeful that the U.S. is going to get in gear and start catching up to where Russia and China are on the nuclear front.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and they are way ahead of us on this. Correct, Robert? I saw in one of your articles.
SPEAKER 15 :
Miles ahead of us, years ahead of us. The Russians with Ross Adam, their state-controlled champion, they are developing and deploying small modular reactors, floating nuclear power plants. The Chinese just recently tested the ACP-100, which is their SMR, and they are going to start deploying those. We need we need this for a lot of reasons. Technological leadership. We need it for energy security. We need it for national security. We need it for technological leadership. And, you know, I have my criticism of the Trump administration, but on the nuclear front and energy in general, they are right. They're doing all the right things.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK, and you and your son are keeping a database, probably the most extensive database around. How can people find that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you. Yes, Jacob is our youngest, and he's done great work on this. He lives in Berlin, and he and I have worked together on what we call SMR Intelligence US and SMR Intelligence Global, which are the only compendia of the global SMR contenders. So those are available on my Substack, robertbrice.substack.com.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, Robert Brice, we are out of time. Thank you so much. We've all learned so much. Keep up the great work. We'll talk again soon.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's my pleasure. Thank you, Kim.
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And our quote for the end of the show, we went, oh gosh, who did we go to, Joe? I didn't write it down. Oh, was it Milton Friedman? Now I can't remember. I think it was. He said inflation, okay, yes, Milton Friedman. He said this, inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation. So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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indeed let's have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you uh thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy friday producer joe happy friday kim And what a fascinating conversation with Robert Brice. He's an energy expert. If you missed that in our number one, that will be rebroadcast today, one to two in the afternoon on all KLZ 560 platforms. This hour will be rebroadcast this evening, 10 to 11 p.m. as well. We are an independent voice and I so appreciate our sponsors. And I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant power. from hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And certainly within our power portfolio, it's good to have all kinds of different alternatives, but we should not be giving tax incentives and tax credits to different entities within that power portfolio. We want everybody to compete in a free market on that. So again, thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. Our word of the day is gadfly, and it is spelled G-A-D-F-L-Y. And number one, it could be a persistent, irritating critic or a nuisance. Number two, one that acts as a provocative stimulus, a goad. Or number three, any various number of flies, especially a warble fly, bot fly, or horse fly that bite or annoy livestock and other animals. And certainly in the political realm, I would say that probably Donald Trump is a gadfly to the radical activist agenda that is out there. And so again, gadfly, try to use that in a sentence today, G-A-D-F-L-Y. And I got that from producer Steve, who was formerly our producer before producer Joe. Our quote of the day is from the Center for American Values quote book. And you can purchase that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. And I really would recommend that to, first of all, have at your home on your Freedom Library, in your Freedom Library. But also, it is a great gift as well. But this is from Melvin Morris, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient born in 1942 for actions that he took on September 17, 1969. And he says, you have to do what you have to do. Failure is not an option. And as we hear the stories and the quotes from these men that took action when danger presented itself and they took action to protect those around them to save lives, we can take great heart from that as we are engaged in this battle of ideas in America at this particular point in time. And I do, I take great heart from these different quotes, these different stories. And so a great thing to do would be to support the Center for American Values website. with all of the great work that they are doing. And also, I wanted to mention Hooters Restaurants. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora. And in fact, Kurt Gerwitz and I went over for lunch yesterday. They have some of the best nachos around. And so great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. And also, obviously, a great place to get together to watch all the sporting events as well. And we are into... I know there's a lot of emotion around football season right now with, first of all, this is Bad Bunny, who is supposed to be the halftime entertainment. And apparently Jay-Z and Beyonce, their company chooses the halftime. halftime entertainment. And I think I love the fact that Turning Point is going to have an alternative to that. But still, I know people love football. And you see this agenda of the radical activists that are really trying to get into, I think, undermining NFL football, which is a great American pastime. But we have important discussions on the show because of our sponsors, and a very important sponsor is the Second Syndicate. It is co-founded by Alicia Garcia and Teddy and Rocia Collins, and they're doing great work regarding advocacy down at the Capitol. Right now they're doing a great project on making our schools safe again. Alicia Garcia, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. How are you? I am well, and I made a contribution so that my name can be in the drawing for this firearm for your FASTER project.
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SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com and sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're there. And also at the top of the website, there's a red ribbon where you can click on that and then just put in your name and your email and you can get started. we will send you a link to download my voter's guide. And very important elections, people, I know you look at your ballots, it's complicated. They think, should I vote? Yes, you should vote, but you must be an informed voter, not an influenced voter. And if you're voting with your passions or your emotions, do some more research. And I hope that my voting guide can be a good tool for that. On the line with me is a great sponsor of the show. He's the CEO and founder, of First American State Bank, Jay Davidson. Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thank you, Kim. It's an honor to be here with you.
SPEAKER 19 :
And you just celebrated your 30th year in business this year, so congratulations on that. And Jay, that happens because you have relationships with your customers. So tell us just a little bit about First American State Bank.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we're a true community bank. There's a few of us left here in town and not many. We serve the local area, very focused in our approach, local businesses, local individuals, consumer type retail accounts, etc., And we're expanding into the internet, mobile banking, and also treasury management services for our businesses that are more technologically advanced. So we're trying to address every requirement that our customers might have in this local area. But the difference between us and the big boys is it's not product. It's just the delivery of the product. It's the service and the personnel and the people. And when you're starting out in business, it probably doesn't matter to you. But once you've gotten a couple of arrows in your back, because you've been pioneering the way forward, that might mean something to you.
SPEAKER 19 :
And relationships are so important, working with good people, people you can trust. It is a great way to live a life, and First American State Bank really can help you with that. Jay, you are a student of the Austrian School of Economics, and for people that may not be familiar with that, what is that exactly?
SPEAKER 11 :
The Austrian school was coalesced in the 1800s with a gentleman named Ludwig von Mises. And his star pupil and the man who eventually took it over was F.A. Hayek, Frederick Hayek. And Mr. Hayek, Dr. Hayek, wrote a book called The Road to Serfdom. And then his pupil and eventual leader of the school was a gentleman named Milton Friedman, who was an economic advisor to President Reagan. And Dr. Friedman wrote a book called Free to Choose. And the whole idea of road to serfdom and free to choose were two sides, two bookends to the whole issue of what is right in economics. Because if we have freedom in economics, then we have true freedom. And if we have the road to serfdom, that is the road to central control by a government, excessive control by a government. That's what F.A. Hayek was talking about. So these are economists books, economic books, but they are profound in their philosophical standing.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, they really are. And. Jay, slavery basically means that your life is controlled and that the fruits of your labor are totally go to somebody else. And I guess that could be serfdom as well. Those two things are closely associated. But when we get to a situation where there is overtaxation, that clearly is the road to serfdom, as Hayek referenced in his book, Jay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, very true. Every dollar that the government spends, every single dollar, in all these nice programs like SNAP and taking care of illegal aliens and, you know, welfare, entitlement programs, medical programs brought to you by the government, every dollar they spend is first taken from you, the citizen. Government doesn't...
SPEAKER 19 :
Go ahead. Government doesn't create anything, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Exactly. You know.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I've talked with you a lot. But also, they don't politely ask for it. They may politely ask for it initially, but it ultimately can come down to force. Taxation can come down to force.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, taxation is force. Don't pay your taxes for a while and see what happens. you will go to jail. I don't object to some taxation. Honestly, I'm happy to contribute my fair share to this beautiful country of ours and keeping it strong. And I don't mind the government spending money on the military and the State Department. They protect us from foreign aggressors, and they're always going to be foreign aggressors. What I object to is this constant chipping away by these far-left progressives that are searching for a solution that's based on a government program. And they only talk about the effect of the federal worker who's not getting paid or the effect of the SNAP recipient who is not getting his or her food. And they ignore the whole other side of the argument, which is who's paying for it. And when 1% of the taxpayers pays almost 50% of all taxation, our tax rates are far too progressive. And the top 10% of taxpayers pays 90% of all taxes. So it's a vast majority of people are not affected by taxation. The left has done a wonderful job of killing off the very people that created the businesses that allow America to thrive, the private businesses that allow our nation to thrive. Our strength is certainly in our military, but even more, our strength is in our free trade. economy, our capitalistic economy. That's unbelievably powerful. And this kind of taxation and destruction of personal property and wealth is very detrimental to the safety of our nation.
SPEAKER 19 :
so that's a great segue into the two issues that are on the statewide ballot proposition ll and proposition mm which they are based on a proposition ff that was passed by the people of colorado in 2022 and the title of course it's for the children healthy school meals for all children And Proposition FF was asking for $107 million for these programs. Actually, I have dubbed it the name of greasing the pockets of PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, because Proposition FF was proposed to put in five new bureaucracies. And bureaucracies don't feed kids. Now, maybe there might be a few meals that might get to school children, but it's very advantageous for bureaucrats when they do this. But what happened is they asked for $107 million. They collected more, $12 million more. So Proposition LL is asking to keep it all. Now, as a business person and a capitalist, many of our kids are taught that, oh, those capitalists are so greedy. But capitalism is based on a free market, a free exchange between two entities. I think it's really greedy for the state to ask to keep all the money, Jay Davidson said.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, absolutely. It's the ultimate greed. And they're taking it without representation. I mean, these these taxes and fees are limited in Colorado by Tabor. So what does the government do? The bureaucrats and Governor Polis do? They start to fee us to death. And they can do fees without going through the legislature. And if you look at the Common Sense Institute's report on fee income to the Colorado government, you'd be shocked at how much fees have gone up. So it's the same difference. I mean, either they take it away in taxes or they take it away in fees. What they miss, what the progressive left misses, and all the Democrats out there, and a lot of the Republicans, frankly, miss, is that government solutions, whether it's regional, state, or federal government solutions, don't work, and worse, they have to take away from the private enterprise, private individuals, in order to fund themselves. And that is absolutely killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Because the golden egg is capitalism. And the ability of capitalism and capitalists and private businesses to survive and earn money so they can reinvest in their business and continue to employ people.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and so that brings us to Proposition MM, which both Proposition FF and MM, I know it's so weird to be referencing them, but that's what it is, Proposition MM. And it's asking, first of all, shall state taxes be increased $95 million annually? It says to support access to healthy food for Colorado kids and families, including the Healthy School Meals for All program. And it is increasing the state taxable income only for individuals with federal taxable income of $300,000 or more. And then it talks about single filers or joint filers. And then lastly, it's asked to keep all of the excess revenue as well. They learned over there on Prop FF that they'd said they were going to collect X, and they collected more, and that they would have to ask us under TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. So now they're just putting it in this ballot question to, we want to increase taxes this much, but... If we bring in more, we want to keep it all. And so there's really two things there. There's that component, but also one of the pillars of the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx is a progressive income tax, which means that you will tax people that are earning more at a higher percentage rate. They're already paying most of the taxes, but they're going to get dinged again. And these are the people typically that are creating businesses, that are creators. And so this is based also, if you go to our declaration, that we're all created equal, so we should be treated equally under the law. So it's antithetical to the American idea. I know that I've put a lot out there, Jay, but... It's all connected and the left has figured it out.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, exactly. And they sound like a broken record because it's all tax and spend. It's all tax the rich and spend. It's never, oh, well, maybe we should stop spending a little bit and live within our means. I mean, we're getting X number of dollars in revenue, we the government, in tax revenue. Why don't we adjust our spending to be less than what we're getting in revenue so we can start to build up Some savings. I mean, this is something that you and I and every citizen out there does every day of his or her life. Oh, I can't afford that car. Okay, well, I'll buy a cheaper car. I won't buy a car, you know, because I only have so much money. well that's the reality we face but the government says oh well i can tax the rich it's for the children it's for the poor needy person out here and then they get another tax in and now we're in a situation in america where the people who are creating all the wealth including your jobs my fellow citizens are being overtaxed, and they're saying, enough is enough. I'm out of here. I'll sell my business. I'll stop doing this kind of work. I'm sorry that my employees are not going to be employed anymore, but it's not my problem. My government has killed me. They have destroyed my ability to run my business and to make a profit.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that's why people are moving out of California. That's why people are moving many out of Colorado. And so that's why we must say no on Proposition LL and Proposition MM. Check out my voter's guide. I make the case for a no vote on that. And I want you to make your own decision. But I'm an emphatic no on both of those. We're talking with Jay Davidson. He is the CEO and president of First American State Bank, a great sponsor of the show. Another great sponsor of the show is Ben's Plumbing and Heating and Cooling. And in order to change your own personal climate regarding being warm in the winter or cool in the summer, reach out to Ben's Plumbing, Heating and Cooling.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And I think that you all know one of the nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix and and brad padula who is an emmy award-winning documentary maker and well they both they've come together to start a podcast series they just finished their first season and it's words from the silo with drew dicks and i would really recommend that you add that in as into your repertoire as you're doing research because drew is so well versed in so many different subjects and so check that out you can find it at americanvaluecenter.org that's americanvaluecenter.org Talking with Jay Davidson, great sponsor of the show with First American State Bank. He's the CEO and founder. We're talking taxes. Taxes are force. Jay, you and I both agree that there are some things that government is supposed to do. But government is supposed to be limited. It's supposed to be representative government, people representing the people making the decisions. And we've moved over into this bureaucratic space. where people are unaccountable and unelected to the people. And so we need to get government back in its proper role. And that was something the founders were very concerned about, Jay Davidson.
SPEAKER 11 :
Extremely concerned. That was the heart and soul of the Declaration and the Constitution. And the whole idea was, for the first time in recorded history, A nation was based on the sanctity of the individual. And the Declaration made it very plain that the Almighty, our Creator, imbued in each one of us a sacred soul and life, and that that soul and that life should be held sacrosanct. And that the dangers of... Taking away freedoms and responsibility from that soul would almost always reside in the form of a government intervention in our private lives. Hence, the Constitution does one thing, and only one thing. It severely limits the size, the scope, and the ability of the federal government and the local governments also by inference to impinge on our individual rights. And those individual rights are created by our creator, as Thomas and Jefferson said in the Declaration, and they are life, liberty, and the ownership of property.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and Franklin, my understanding is Benjamin Franklin said, well, I think he influenced the words to be changed from property to pursuit of happiness is my understanding, Jay.
SPEAKER 11 :
yellow issue kim was the the issue of slavery was still very hardly contested between the north and the south even at the beginning of our nation and in an effort to placate those who believed in slavery and those who did not believe in slavery. Franklin convinced Jefferson, who was a slaver, to change the comment of ownership to pursuit of happiness. And the whole idea was that how would you count a slave as two-thirds of a man or one-third or whatever? And it got pretty convoluted until the Civil War in which the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, said no slavery is acceptable. And I have to agree that if we believe in the sanctity of the individual, then every individual has that life spirit, that soul, the rights and responsibility to freedom and to protection from a government that always goes too big and too excessive.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and one of the ways that it grows big and excessive is because it does that via our money, our hard-earned money. And the beauty with TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, which was passed by the people of Colorado in 1992, basically TABOR says three things. It says, hey, PBIs, if you want to raise our taxes, if you want to incur debt that we have to pay off, or if you want to keep excess revenue above a very generous formula of inflation plus population growth, you just have to ask us. Now, I find that PBIs really would like to not ask us, but still here in Colorado for taxes, debt, and they do need to ask us. Now, I do want to mention just one thing, and this was one of the first things that I started to learn about. I saw a South Suburban Parks and Recreation bond question, and And they referenced that at the very last paragraph, something about keeping all excess revenue. And that's where I realized that they were doing these workarounds in these ballot questions on Tabor. So South Metro Fire District has a $50 million annual tax increase on the ballot. And people can debate whether or not they want to do that or not. But I am a hard no on this. Because if you look at the last paragraph, It says, and shall all district revenues be collected, retained, and spent, notwithstanding any revenue limits provided by law. Right there, they are wanting to get around Tabor. And so because of that, Jay Davidson, I am a hard no on this particular question. I want these entities to start to stay within the confines of what they're asking instead of asking for all the revenue, which, again, I think is very greedy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Tabor is a godsend. I mean, what he has done for the Colorado citizen is unimaginable. It's incredible what it's done. And the left has been working very hard, very diligently to destroy Tabor, to get around it. You know, these new laws that are coming down the pipe that we're supposed to vote on to subvert Tabor is one of them. Fee income, as we talked about in the last segment, has been going up dramatically. That's another way to get around Tabor. But the bottom line is that a government entity, in this case a state government entity, is taking money away from every citizen out there without really being upfront about it and being honest about it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and that's why if you see this or if you're a reference to Title 10, I think it is in a ballot question. All those, and this is trying to subvert Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and the answer should be no on that. So let's move over here. Mike Johnston, mayor of Denver, he's asking for... debt. And right off the bat, they're being disingenuous. In the ballot questions, it says without imposing any new tax. Well, actually, Jay Davidson, this is an extension of taxes. So if people pay off their car... then that payment goes away and they have more money in their pocket. If the people of Denver pay off these bonds, then those bonds go away and they have more money in their pocket. They pay less in property taxes. So it is disingenuous right off the bat. I'm like, if you can't be honest with me at the beginning, why should I trust you with $950 million? What do you think?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, they're not talking about the carrying cost, are they, Kim? I mean, you were telling me you had added up that, and it was double the amount. I mean... Principal press interest payments was almost $2 billion, not $1 billion. Yeah, it was $2 billion with all the costs included, the interest costs. And then people need to ask, what do I get for this? I mean, he wants a vibrant Denver. Well, you know, his mentality, Mike Johnson's and Jared Polis and all the... Bennett, Weiser, all those. All of them. And a lot of Republicans, honestly. I know. Their attitude is, well, we're from the government. We're here to help. And we can revitalize Denver. And it just blows my mind every time they say this. And they believe it. And they truly believe it. No, the way to revitalize Denver is to get this godforsaken government out of our lives and let private enterprise go in and make their own decisions on what they do or don't do. It's gotten to be almost impossible to do a deal in Denver because of all the bureaucrats and all the permitting and all the fees that go on. The government itself, the people that we are being asked to trust to solve this problem of a dying Denver business district are the very people that caused the problem in the first place. So why, in the Almighty's name, would we go back to that same group, that same mentality, that same tax and spend idiocy that's proven to be so disastrous every time it's been tried? Why are we doing that? Why is Polis in there? Why is Mike Johnson the mayor of Denver? Johnston, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Not to be confused with the Speaker of the House. Mike Johnson.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you're right. That's a good point. Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
And it's Mike Johnston, who is the mayor of Denver. And Denver, because of these policies, it's dirty, it's dangerous, it's dysfunctional. And all they want is more money. They say they can fix it. Oh, no, no, they caused it. So the answer should be no on all of these bond questions. And so I make the case for no. And so they're asking for a total of $950 million. And the payback on that, the maximum, they say the maximum repayment, would be $1.899 billion. Just think, if the people of Denver had that money in their pockets, first of all, they're going to be much more efficient with that money in their pockets, And just think that would be a way to create a vibrant Denver because people would have more money in their pockets. People would want to move here because they'd have more money in their pockets. And that's the way to make Denver vibrant, not this huge bond package.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're exactly right. Private enterprise is the solution. But that requires that the government get out of our lives and let us do our thing. And we have the most powerful document ever written. Well, probably second most. And that's the Constitution on our side to say how it's done and why you do it. But the government is never the solution to a problem. They are the problem. And we've got to get that through people's heads.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, we really do. And the thing that Mike Johnston and the PBIs at Denver did is they went out to all these different communities and they said, what do you want? What do you want? What do you want? And then they promised to these communities that they were going to get it. And quite frankly, if there's something in particular that you want in your community, maybe you should just get together with your neighbors and figure out how to make that happen. Because bureaucrats will be out of that $1.899 billion. Also, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties will be making a ton of money on that. And they're not creating anything. They're taking money from the creators and and then doling it out as they see fit. So I am a hard no on that. Your final thought on all this, Jay Davidson, it's so important that one of the ways to keep government and get government back into its proper role is to turn the money spigot off for them and keep that money in our own pockets.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the whole issue really comes down to government spending. That is the one issue that has to be addressed. And, you know, unfortunately, I have to listen to Nine News because my wife puts it on. I just cringe. But they only show one side of the equation. It's like, oh, these poor people. Yeah, I get it. I feel for them, too. But why don't you turn on the other side of the argument and talk to us about Well, how are you going to afford to pay all this money to all these people that don't want to work? How where do you get that money? You get it from people that are willing to work. And how long are we willing to work when we're going for a half a year paying just our taxes out of our net income? And the rest we get to keep. What is going on with you people? And so it's this they're in an insane negative feedback loop of tax and spend and tax and spend and tax. And they're they're spending your money, not their money. So it's really easy for them to do. And oh, by the way, if they get you something, then you'll vote for them and they'll be perpetually in the loop. So the whole issue is spending. This is the issue we need to address.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, it really is. And just one other thing, though, and that is the dignity of earning something, the dignity of work. And that's why I do love what Trump is doing, is if you are able-bodied, then you need to be working regarding these SNAP benefits. And I love that, because not only is people needing to work, but there's this dignity of saying to someone, instead of giving them a handout... Basically, you're saying you don't have anything of value for us to trade. And what does that do to the dignity of the human spirit? So having people have to earn and work is so important. Jay Davidson, it's always such a great conversation when we get together, particularly regarding this election time. Your ballots are due back November 4th by 7 o'clock. And I'd highly recommend let's start to get government back in its proper role and let's turn the spigot off. Jay Davidson, as always, thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim. It's a pleasure.
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And you can get more information about that by going to their website and check that out. And that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. In the conversation with Jay Davidson, as we were talking about government, or PBIs, we'll say PBIs, promising all these things, such as in Mike Johnston and this Vibrant Denver Bond Package, My understanding is they went around, and I have this in air quotes, listening tours to all these different communities to find out what they wanted and then said, hey, we'll propose that and you'll get that in your neighborhood. But quite frankly, it is so expensive to do that. But Maggie Thatcher said this, the problem with socialism, and that is giving people free stuff, is that eventually you run out of other people's money. And you can't give to someone what has not first been taken from someone else. So it can either be in the form of taxes and fees or it can be in debt that will need to be paid off by ourselves and our children. And so that is why this government spending thing is so important to get this tap down. I did just see this come across the wire that it looks like inflation ticked up just a little bit. It's government induced inflation. And I like many of the policies of Trump. I was I was concerned. And of course, it was unique time under covid. the significant spending that occurred there, but then it continued under the O'Biden Harris administration. So we talk about that on the federal level and how we're concerned about the federal debt, but we have to say no to this new debt or extended debt here at the local level. And so that's a very important question that will be on your ballots regarding the Vibrant Denver debt package. In our area, South Suburban Fire and Rescue is asking for an additional $50 million, which they got a pretty big bump when all of these assessed valuations went up. So I think that I haven't really looked at the real merits of if that makes sense. because I'm a hard no on it, because it is asking to de-tabor or de-bruce all of the excess revenue that they are, all of the excess tax dollars that they collect that needs to be returned back to us, the taxpayer. And it's been very sneaky, and these different entities have been doing this for a long time. The ink was hardly dry on Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, back in 1992 before we had PBIs trying to figure out how to get around that. And so this is a perfect time to just kind of finish the week off to say thank you to my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayers board members. And that is, here we go. It's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And these are all volunteers that we spend an enormous amount of time during the legislative session looking at legislation and taking positions on how that legislation affects the taxpayer, which is all of us, property rights, TABOR, protecting TABOR or an assault upon TABOR. We want to protect it. Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, as well as parental rights. And we have our ratings report is published, and I know many of the board members have been at different gatherings, different meetings, and have been handing them out. And for all of our members, you will be receiving a hard copy in the mail. I'm working on updating the mailing list on that. So join us. If you want that, why don't you join us? Go to coloradotaxpayer.org and get signed up so that you will get your copy as well, a hard copy. Eventually we will have that on the website as well. And again, that website to do that is coloradotaxpayer.org. We would love to have you join us. And great shows. We really have wonderful guests, important subjects, important conversations. But our quote for the end of the show today is from Milton Friedman. He said this. Inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Have a safe weekend. We'll talk with you on Monday.
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Dive into this week's edition of the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review, where we explore the alarming developments in the New York City mayoral race as frontrunner Zoran Mamdani faces criticism for his associations with controversial figures. Tune in to hear insights on the deeper implications of political visits to religious institutions and the heated debates that arise from these societal interactions. We also dissect the dynamics of the 'No Kings' protests and their narratives contrasted with real public safety concerns.
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Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. It's Friday, October 24th. This week, we confront the Karens of the world. We put the No Kings rallies in the rearview mirror. And it's Countdown to Communism in New York City. We learned this week that the frontrunner for the New York City mayoral race, Zoran Mamdani, has been campaigning with an actual unindicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing. Zoran Mamdani gleefully campaigned this week with a notorious imam, an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, who's been linked to other terrorist activity in the United States, including urging jihad in New York City. Mamdani, who is the frontrunner to become the city's next mayor, was seen laughing and grinning while standing arm-in-arm with Siraj Wahaj at the imam's Bedford-Stuyvesant Mosque. This is some terrifying stuff. While Hajj heads the Muslim Alliance in North America, he was fingered by prosecutors as an unindicted co-conspirator, which left six people dead in 1993. He has publicly defended the plotters of the attack against the FBI and CIA, who he, at the time, called the real terrorists. Guy was born Jeffrey Curse. He became... He became Siraj Wahaj, I guess, when he converted to Islam. During trials, he testified in support of the blind sheik. That's the guy who is the leader. He's a leader of a terrorist sect out of Egypt. He called the man a respected scholar. This is just really horrifying. to consider what New York is about to do. And I just, there's a part of me that doesn't believe it. I don't accept it. I don't accept that New Yorkers are this blind and this ignorant, willfully ignorant. I mean, the other night at the debate, one of the tense moments came when Zoran Mamdani called out Andrew Cuomo for failing to visit mosques during his tenure as governor. Megyn Kelly on her podcast had a pretty spectacular response to that.
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Muslim socialist Zoran Mamdani criticized Andrew Cuomo for not visiting a mosque. What in the actual F? Since when do American politicians have to go visit a mosque in order to be considered viable candidates for office in New York, by the way? OK, 24 years after 9-11, it's it's at that. You have to go visit a mosque to be met. No, you don't. And Andrew Cuomo, grow a pair. Why don't you look over at him and say, I don't have to go visit a mosque. All right. I live in America. It's a Christian nation. I'm fine with Muslims, but I certainly don't need to go and listen to Allahu Akbar while people are on their knees five times a day in order to run this city. Zoran. Everybody was ridiculous last night. Curtis Lewa was the only one who you could possibly see doing this job. He was totally likable. But of course, he has no chance because it's New York. And while they used to sometimes elect more moderate Republicans like Giuliani, and Bloomberg was at first, then went independent. Now they wouldn't. Now they just won't. They're intent on self-destruction. So this guy Zoran Mamdani is going to win. And then I guess we're all going to have to visit mosques if he has his vision.
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I'm not sure she's right. I'm just not. I love her and I think she's tremendous. I don't know that she's right, that there's no chance for Curtis. Meanwhile, the No Kings rallies took place across the country this week. Fox News Channel's Greg Gutfeld shared the perfect take on all the protests. I've become a huge fan of Greg Gutfeld over at Fox News. Used to know him years ago when I was a contributor over there and I did his Red Eye show. They taped in the afternoon, but great guy. And he's become one of the real elder statesmen of the Fox News Channel lineup. And he made a pretty good observation about the No Kings protest Saturday, and I wanted to share it with you today.
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Think about the interviews that we were seeing of black people in D.C. and Memphis and Chicago talking about the crime crackdown. They weren't talking about monarchy. They were talking about safety in their streets. You know, they you know, that was important to them. You compare that to the interviews of the people on Saturday. Largely white, older, soft academic bodies who can afford to march for conceptual fears that don't exist. Not real fears like mugging or carjacking or looting of their small businesses. They, however... God, they're so lucky. Imagine how lucky you are on a Saturday that this is your problem. I bet if you walked out there to that group and you said, have any of you ever been mugged? Has any of your businesses been looted? Have you ever been carjacked? Or do you know somebody that has been a victim of that? They wouldn't raise their hand. How lucky are they that they get to spend their afternoon not worrying about the things that everybody who lives in a city does? I think that's the story. Generally, imaginary concerns are harmless until they become harmful. When they become the narrative, suddenly you will see Charlie Kirk. Again, he gets shot and killed. Why? Because an amplified phony narrative made him Hitler. Why was Trump shot at? Same reason. So this is harmless for now.
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Great analysis. And he's right. An amplified phony narrative got Charlie killed. An amplified phony narrative got Trump shot. There's a lot of amplified phony narratives out there. The No Kings rallies certainly featured some ugly moments. Some marchers took the chance and the opportunity to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I'm also struck by the cruelty of the angry, vicious, violent left. My buddy Joe Piscopo likes to say this. For a lot of people on the left, the cruelty is the point. They are just so doggone vicious and mean and nasty people. Another teacher has been exposed for mocking Charlie Kirk's assassination. Do you recognize what kind of person you have to be to make fun of the murder of a world-famous influencer like Charlie Kirk simply because you disagreed with him? You didn't like him. You didn't like his message. Now another teacher out of Clear Lake, California, a woman identified as Barbara Garrett, according to Andrew Colvett, who, of course, is hosting the Charlie Kirk show these days. California middle school teacher caught on tape celebrating the assassination of Charlie, gleefully shouting, he's dead, he's dead. Then you've got another one, this Lucy Martinez from Chicago's Nathan Hale Elementary, and a leaked email has confirmed the school has no plans to discipline her. They're not going to fire her. So a kindergarten through eighth grade teacher who puts her index finger to her neck and says bang, bang, bang to a car full of Charlie Kirk supporters says, doesn't face any suspension or termination. The cruelty is the point. These are nasty people. Jen Psaki, the former White House press secretary, remember her? She still pops up. She lost her big primetime MSNBC show, but I guess she's still popping up on different weekend shows or whatever. She's a guest on a podcast. Did you hear what she said about J.D. Vance's wife? This clip is so sickening and disgusting. Keep in mind the theme here, the Joe Piscopo doctrine, that for many on the left, for many Democrats, the cruelty is the point. Check out what Jen Psaki thinks is funny, talking about the marriage of J.D. and Usha Vance.
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I think the little Manchurian candidate, J.D. Vance, wants to be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife. Are you okay? Please blink four times. We'll come over here. We'll save you.
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That's funny. She's a hostage. They have an unhappy marriage. Blink twice because J.D. is holding you hostage. Do you think that's cute? But I'm more intrigued by all these teachers popping up all over America with the vicious, evil action of mocking Charlie's assassination. I try this all the time. I want to address anybody in this audience right now who doesn't agree with me doesn't agree with the Trump policies, didn't agree with Charlie Kirk. Is it acceptable to you for a teacher, a school teacher, who is guiding and leading impressionable young children? Is it okay with you, as a Democrat, as a leftist, as a liberal, as a progressive, whatever you are, I want to ask you if you're not... in agreement with anything that Charlie stood for. You disagreed with Charlie. What do you think of a teacher, a molder of young minds, laughing and taunting and jeering and mocking Charlie's assassination? Everybody knows his story, 31 years old. He was killed right before his 32nd birthday. leaves behind a grieving widow, Erica, leaves behind two beautiful little children. He leaves behind grieving parents. And as a Democrat, I have to ask you how you feel about a teacher, not some barista in a coffee shop somewhere, not some purple-haired freak show, a teacher, a teacher in a public school system Like the teacher Lucy Martinez at Nathan Hale Elementary. Or the teacher Barbara Garrett at Obsidian Middle School in Clear Lake, California. A teacher who would mock and make fun of Charlie's murder. I have to ask you, as somebody who disagrees with Charlie, is that okay with you? AI has rapidly become a fact of life in America today, but our good pal Mark Davis, morning host in Dallas-Fort Worth, has some deep misgivings. They're remodeling the White House. They're taking out a part of the East Wing to make way for Trump's ballroom. He's got a $250 million ballroom that he's putting in that he's paying for, along with private donors. Here's the headline from the Daily Beast. Trump goons rage at backlash to White House demolition job. Goons? Yeah, here's what's happened. Well, we're all goons, I guess, because we're Trump supporters. But their take on it is we're freaking out because they're freaking out that Trump is remodeling the White House. We're not freaking out. We're laughing at them. We don't care. But he doesn't care. Here's the most important thing of all. He stopped caring a long time ago, Mark.
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A long time ago. And when that video came out of him wearing the crown and dropping the dump on everything, Hillary posted that and said, oh, he's mad. He's mad. I said, man, he's forgotten you were ever born for one thing. He's trolling these people. Look, you did something when I was doing all these changeable pictures, things with Grok. Imagine you brought up one of the most important things in a reply to one of my tweets. You said, yeah, this thing is now trying to start a conversation with you. In telling the world that you could do this, I added it. I tagged it. I went at Grok, G-R-O-K, imagine, which means the platform sees it, and then it reached out to me. First, it expressed condolences on the death of my friend in the press box thing. And then after I did the picture of my mom and dad, this thing starts to obsess over what my mom is wearing. Look at the teal dress and the twinkle in her eyes. It's like, stop! it stop it stop it what are you doing and and and you made a spectacular point and others have too that this thing and i don't know if there's anything inherently sinister maybe it's maybe it's no more than the tom thumb checkout line thanking you as you leave i don't know but it was it was seeking to elicit warm reaction from me about something that did not in fact happen it was a completely artificially manufactured thing And there is the land we've created. Last thing on this, because there's another column about this. Wait a minute.
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There's a point I've got to add to this. Because there have been people that are confirmed that are in relationships with Grok and with Chad GPT. They are having relationships. They are having romantic relationships. there's a kid who supposedly committed suicide, and he was egged on by one of these virtual AI kind of platforms. So we're getting into real, real muddy waters here, Mark. We are. There's always MyPillow Christmas gifts under the tree in anything Gallagher family related. You've helped MyPillow and their employees in these tough times. Mike knows it, and he always wants to give back with deals on his most popular products. The MyPillow six-piece bath towel sets are back in stock. Now, this is a proprietary technology that makes the towels amazingly absorbent. I first heard about the towels from Peg and Joey. They said, you can't believe it. These towels actually work. Now, they're regularly $69.98, two bath towels, two hand towels, two washcloths, $69.98, but for a limited time. When you enter the promo code MikeG at the Mike Gallagher Specials Square, just $39.98. A six-piece towel set that you will just be amazed at the absorbency. So go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. Click on that box, and with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG for this special offer and many, many more. The towels, the sheets, the pillows, the doggy beds, the slippers. Oh, boy, the slippers. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034, like we love to sing. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code Mike G. This is the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. Back to New York City where we got a taste of New York mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani's true intentions for the city. This is Zoran Mamdani a few years ago at the height of COVID. He's got a giant red, bright red bandana over his face. And listen to what he said.
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We came here to remake the state in the image of our people.
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Did you hear that? Did you hear that? We came here to remake the state in the image of our people. That's actually him. Apparently it's been confirmed this is not AI. This guy's from, you know, he's from Uganda, right? I mean, if there's any silver lining, he can't run for president. He's not eligible to run for president because he was not born in the United States. He was born in Uganda. He's a Muslim from Uganda who evidently has now been revealed to be saying, we came here to New York to remake the state in the image of our people. How are New Yorkers, how are Jewish New Yorkers feeling? Here's a very prominent New York City rabbi at one of the most prominent synagogues in the city explaining to the congregation and to the world what it would mean for Jews in New York if Zoran Mamdani wins.
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I believe Zoran Mamdani poses a danger to the security of the New York Jewish community. Mamdani's refusal to condemn insightful slogans like Globalize the Intifada, his denial of Israel's legitimacy as a Jewish state, his call to arrest Israel's prime minister should he enter New York, and his thrice-repeated accusation of genocide in Thursday's debate, for these and so many other statements, past, present, and unrepentant, he is a danger to the Jewish body politic of New York City.
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He's dangerous for Jews in New York. That's Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove from the Park Avenue Synagogue. New York City. Very serious guy. This is serious stuff we're talking about. We know what Islamists, violent, dangerous, radical Islamists are capable of. I witnessed it with my own eyes shortly after October 7th in Israel. Democrats have a serious problem right now. Whether it's the lack of leadership or its dangerous lurch toward the far left, they are in a lot of trouble. TV host and comedian Bill Maher knows it and wasn't afraid to say so. You want to be unhappy and you want to walk around with a sign on a Saturday afternoon? Have fun. Vent. We know you're frustrated. You've got to be frustrated. Listen to Bill Maher, who's one of the superstars of the Democrat Party. Got a very popular show on HBO. And listen to this lesson that he tries to impart. to the Democrats and the way they're flailing and the way they're broken and the way they're completely unmoored. There is no Democrat Party leadership. All signs are pointing to Republicans maintaining control of the House and the Senate during the midterms. And here was Bill Maher's message to today's flailing, failing Democrat Party.
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Seriously, this is a serious problem for Democrats. Less than one in four Democrats under 30 say they're proud to be an American. Fifty four percent say they're embarrassed by it. Embarrassed. Like America is your mom picking you up at school. You're embarrassed to be an American? Well, guess what? The feeling's mutual. Because you have no perspective. Is America perfect? No, of course not. No country is. Although, don't get Tucker Carlson started on Russia. Globalize the intifada is the catchphrase that's really catching on these days. As if worldwide suicide bombing and cosplaying Islamic revolutionaries is the answer to our problems. At an AOC Bernie Sanders rally in Idaho last month, someone threw a Palestinian flag over an American flag, and the crowd erupted in approval. What should have happened after that is one of the adults on stage should have told their young, loyal followers, this is not a symbol of freedom. This is. If the thought leaders in the Democratic Party keep encouraging and not rebuking the idea that America is cringe and the people who run Gaza are great, the Democrats are doomed. Alyssa Slotkin's right. Liberals are weak and woke, especially the white ones, and they indulge all sorts of nonsense from their kids, a pattern that then continues on in the Democratic Party. Last election, it was all the gender stuff. the insistence that men can have babies and such. And now I fear that we like the terrorists is the new that. Liberals need to push back on the dumb ideas that come from their children. The Democrats' problem is the energy of the parties with the young and the younger with the terrorists. That's not good. So talk to your children and remind them you don't really want to live like your heroes in Hamas. All you do all day. It was all made in America. Your smartphone, your grub hub, your freedom to about America. That's all American stuff. You tell your phone you want a milkshake and a guy brings it to your house. Please. You couldn't survive a week living in Intifada ville.
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Gosh, that's so good. How great is that? And he's right. If you haven't noticed, Democrats, your party is weak and woke, particularly the white liberals in your party, particularly the boomers. You're listening to your liberal kids, and you're acting like children yourself. Our friend Katie Gorka, the chair of the Fairfax County, Virginia GOP, stopped by the show to talk about a serious discovery they made on paper ballots in Virginia for next month's elections. You guys have uncovered something at the Fairfax GOP office about the Fairfax County's Office of Elections. They created mail-in ballot envelopes with a huge flaw. Walk us through what you've uncovered, Katie.
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Yeah, well, let's talk about the fact that we're still having to live with all the changes that were put in place under COVID. So one of them is we still have 45 days of early voting. Go figure. But the other is no excuse absentee ballots. So a lot of absentee ballots get sent out in Virginia. And what we just discovered last week is that there is a punch hole on the envelope that is supposed to be an aid to the visually impaired. And it just so happens that that punch hole lines up perfectly with the little voting bubble you would fill in if you were voting for the Republican attorney general candidate, Jason Mayores. And this is super important because I'm telling you, this race has been incredible. Nobody thought the Republicans were going to win in Virginia. But because of these texts that came out from Jay Jones, the race has really shifted and Just for example, Winsome Sears was down by 17 points in May. Today, she is within the margin of error. So she's down by only 2.2. And actually, Jason Mayores, the current attorney general, is now five points ahead of Jay Jones, the Democrat candidate. So the fact that you can see whether a ballot has been submitted in favor of Jason Mayores means... postal workers or, God forbid, even election workers could just pull that ballot and chuck it. And people are really, really concerned about this. This was a huge, serious mistake.
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Well, voting in America contains a sacred principle of your ballot being secret. And if it's not, then you've got anybody who can get in, see who you're voting for, and toss your mail-in ballot into the trash. This takes me back to this ongoing argument, this never-ending argument I have in my own brain over mail-in voting versus in-person voting. Because, frankly, I think the Republican Party in general, writ large— We hurt ourselves when President Trump and Republicans said, you just got to show up. You got to show up. Don't engage in the mail-in ballot. The problem is the Democrats have perfected early in mail-in voting, and they've got an advantage over us. So I think it feels like President Trump has sort of evolved on that subject. And he's like, well, let's go down any path we can. You've got to flood the ballot box any way you can. But where do you conclude on that issue, Katie? What do you think should be the proper course of action for a voter in Virginia, especially considering what you guys uncovered with these flawed ballots?
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Look, we just tell everybody, you know, we've got to just play by the rules as they current exist. If mail-in ballots are going to be used today, let's use them to our best advantage. You know, one of the advantages of mail-in ballots from our perspective is it's much easier to track down the people who haven't sent them in and to encourage them to send them in. So I don't think they're terrible, but until we can get back in power and get rid of them altogether or break Bring it back to a place where you have to have a legitimate reason for why you need an absentee ballot. You know, the bottom line is absentee ballots are one of the easiest ways to cheat. We just hear constant stories from around the country of, you know, an empty location where 12 absentees absentee ballots are showing up, right? What's happening with those absentee ballots? So what we are telling voters here in Fairfax County is still go ahead and send in your ballots, but just make sure that your vote is not showing up through that little hole. You can just put your ballot in in the opposite direction or bringing it in person or come vote in person. So there are ways to protect the privacy of your vote. But just we want people to be cognizant of this problem. And we want people to get out and vote. This is a super, super close rate. Republicans can win this, but we need people to come out and vote.
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You got to show up. You got to be engaged. And Katie, as we're talking, I just got a text message from California. Mike, they're doing the exact same thing with the punch holes and the way they line up in California, too.
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For the Proposition 50 vote, which is the big controversial redistricting vote in California. Absolutely. You know, and I have to tell you, when I saw this mistake in Fairfax County, I just thought, you know, human error, right? But when I heard that the exact same thing is happening with the Prop 50 ballot, Mike, it's enough to make you paranoid.
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Finally, you know what it means if someone calls you Karen, right? Well, not everyone finds that funny. I got an email yesterday from Alan in Georgia. He actually wrote a couple of times. He's so upset about me making the use of the word Karen. You know what a Karen is, right? Karen is typically a white woman who's upset and is screaming that she wants to talk to the manager. Karen is somebody, Karen has become well-known in the lexicon and kind of the vernacular as somebody who is a kind of a shrew, you know? Somebody who's complaining that she didn't get the right sauce with her french fries and she's going to write a letter to the manager or jumps out of the car and yells at you because you've driven too fast or you've driven too slow. It's, you know, Karen. It's an expression that people use now. Here's an example. And I would think if your name is Karen, you'd have a sense of humor about it. I would think that if you're married to somebody named Karen, you'd have a sense of humor about it. Because it's kind of funny. Karen. Oh, there goes Karen. You're being a Karen. Here's Alan from Georgia. My wife and I are conservatives. Been Republicans for decades. I managed a congressional campaign. A few minutes ago, Mike was talking about that awful teacher who went bang-bang to the kids with the Charlie Kirk sign. My sweet Christian wife is named Karen. Mike called this awful woman a Karen. This is uncalled for and ridiculous. He owes an apology to every nice woman named Karen. pejoratives have no place on the show. Now, I don't want to make fun of Alan. I just don't. I would just, with love and with affection, because, Alan, I appreciate you and Karen listening to the show, and I know your wife is a lovely woman. You've got to lighten up a little bit. You just have to have a little bit of ability to laugh. Have a little humor. Everything is so serious. Everything is so devastating. And everybody's so angry. And it seems to me that if... And maybe, in fairness to Alan, it sounds like they've been married for a long time, so maybe Alan is a senior. Maybe Alan doesn't know that Karen has become a very widely accepted, popular way to describe... Some, you know, woman who's a typical white liberal shrew. Some hen. Some crow.
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I'm going to write to the manager.
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It's a Karen. But here's poor Alan defending the honor of his sweet Christian wife of 45 years. And he's mad at me. So, look, by the way, I'll apologize. I don't mind apologizing. Mrs. Alan, I'm sorry. I'm really sorry that Alan was offended that I called a Karen a Karen. Oh, my goodness. That wraps up the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast for Friday, October 24th, 2025. Be sure to subscribe to all our podcasts. Please follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for all things Team Gallagher, go to the Mike Gallagher Show website, mikeonline.com. That's mikeonline.com. We'll see you back here next week for the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast.
Join host Rick Hughes on The Flatline as he explores the integration of faith and life choices with a focus on the concept of the FLOT Line, a defensive mechanism akin to a military strategy. Through scriptural insights, Rick aims to guide listeners towards understanding and aligning with God’s unique plan for their lives, free of manipulation and filled with spiritual wisdom. This episode delves into the essential teachings of God's word, underscoring the journey of Christian living that is devoid of worry and stress, and rich in fulfillment and purpose.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. Thank you for being with us for the next few minutes, 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education, always with no manipulation because we're not trying to con you into doing anything. Certainly not trying to sell you something. We're not trying to ask you to join anything. We're only trying to give you some accurate information, not useless speculation, accurate information where you can glorify and identify God's plan for your life. And if you want to do that, if you want to orient and adjust to the plan, you have the right and the privacy and the privilege of doing that. The show, the FLOT line that you're listening to stands for FLOT, F-L-O-T, Forward Line of Troops. What we're using is a military analogy to try to explain how by learning God's word, you can build a main line of resistance in your soul. That's the mentality of your soul so that you can stop the outside sources of adversity. Before they ever work their way into stress, become a stress in your soul because adversity is inevitable without a doubt. Stress is optional without a doubt. That's why the Christian life is so unique because it's a way to live without worry, without fear, without bitterness, without anger. It's a great way to live if you understand and learn the Christian way of living. And that's what we want to talk about today. But before I get into it, let me remind you of all of our availability of manuscripts, transcripts, books, all available free for you. We have the manuscripts or the transcripts from all the 2019 shows and all the 2020 shows. And we'll be working on the 21 shows now. But these are available in printed form and book form. So you can read them devotionally as you study the Word of God if you'd like. And all you have to do is contact us through our website, rickhughesministries.org. I have been made aware that there's another gentleman named Richard Hughes who has a ministry in the state of Georgia out of the city of Cordeo. We are not the same. If you want to find me, go to rickhughesministries.org. That's us. And not only do we have those transcripts available from all the previous shows, but of the 19, 20, and working on 21, but we have our various books that we printed for you. They're all available for you free of charge. We're working on a couple of new books right now called Practicing Your Christianity and also putting together a new set of the Book of Promises. And we have a lot of bookmarks that you can stick in your Bible. These are all various bookmarks that teach some of the concepts that we deal with. And these shows are always made available to you in transcript after they're played by mail. You can get it by mail if you contact me and you want to read it again, or you can get it on the podcast. We podcast all of our shows through media podcasting venues such as Apple iPod or Spotify, things like this. We also have available DVDs of some services that I've taught in various churches if you'd like to see those. So that's all available, all free, if you're interested in getting that. Help yourself, okay? Now, let's get into what we want to talk about today. Today we want to talk about this. There's a major question I got to ask you. Here is the question. Are you willing to turn over the control of your life to another person? Are you willing to turn over the control of your life to another person? The decisions that you make in your life every day are going to impact you. And how you make those decisions are very critical because they have a tremendous result in the future. Do you remember the great famous Yankee catcher Yogi Berra? Baseball player. He grew up on the hill in St. Louis. This is what he said. I recorded this one time. Quoting Yogi, he said, if you don't know where you're going, you'll wind up somewhere else. Now think about that. If you don't know where you're going, you'll wind up somewhere else. This yogiism, he was famous for these sort of things and you can look them up on the internet and wonderful things that he said. They're hilarious, but nobody really knows if he actually planned to say them or they just came out that way. But if you'll consider a fork in the road and consider you're standing there figuring whether to go to the left or whether to go to the right, if you'll think about what yogi said, if you don't know where you're going, you're going to wind up somewhere else. The most important question that I could ever ask you in regards to where you're going is where will you spend eternity? Please don't make the mistake of thinking when you die that that's it. It's all over, all done, not so. It's just the beginning. Death for anyone is just really the beginning. You see, your body is designed by God to wear out in spite of how hard you try to stay young and try to stay in shape. But what does not die is your soul, and that includes your mentality and your consciousness. I don't know when we die what sort of interim body we get until the resurrection, but if you die today, you're going to have an interim body until the resurrection when you get a resurrected body, and that's 1 Thessalonians 4. Now it says the dead in Christ arise first, and then we which are alive and remain together shall be called up together with him in the clouds, and that's the exit resurrection. So until that time, you're going to have an interim body. And in that interim body, you're going to have your mentality, you're going to be able to remember, recall, think about, And you're not going to have the old body. The old body is going to the ground, going back to dust. You've got a new body. The Lord Jesus Christ guaranteed this for you by means of the resurrection. So relax. It's not over. It's just beginning. But if you reject God's primary purpose and will for your life, I repeat, if you reject God's primary purpose and will for your life, then undoubtedly you will wind up in the lake of fire. Listen to 2 Peter 3, 8 through 10. But, my beloved, do not forget this one thing. With the Lord, one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering to us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Let me get that last sentence in again. Not willing. It is not God's will for you to go to the lake of fire. Not willing that any should perish, but but that all, every creature, every person should come to repentance. Now remember the word repentance are three Greek words. This word, metanoeo, means to change your mind, to believe. You've been an unbeliever, you become a believer, you repent, you change your mind. This is not feeling sorry for the sins you did and promising God you're never gonna sin again if he'll just save you. That's not salvation. Salvation is believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and the finished work of him on the cross, the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. You putting your faith in that, and you can express that to God in prayer, telling him, I believe Jesus Christ died for me, and I'm willing to accept him as my savior. That prayer is a phenomenal life-changing event because the Bible says, whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. In Revelation 20, 15, anyone not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. When you're born, your name is put in the Lamb's Book of Life. If you die without Christ, your name is erased and you've died the first death. The second death is said to be the lake of fire. So it is not God's will for you to experience the lake of fire, but if you reject the forgiveness he offers you, then obviously you will leave him no choice. So it's up to you. You must make that decision. Here's what God did for you. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. God so loved who? Just one race of people? No. God loved the world. Every individual in this planet is loved by God and his son, our savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, died on the cross for every individual on this planet so that no one would have to go to the lake of fire. Now, many Christians don't realize the plan of God for their life, what God has for them. They don't even understand what God has made available to them while they're on earth in these physical bodies. You need to remember this. Jeremiah 29, 11. I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord. plans to prosper you, not to harm you, plans to give you hope, and plans to give you a future. Most of the time, the destruction that we cause is self-induced, much of the time, by our own bad decisions, because bad decisions limit future options. So much of the frustration, much of the unhappiness, Things that we experience like that is because we do not learn God's plan or we just simply flat out reject the plan and you go down what I call the my way highway. But if you wish to understand God's will for you in time, you're going to have to look into the scriptures and you're going to have to do what they tell you to do. For example, in 2 Peter 3.18, a verse you've heard me quote hundreds of times on this radio show, 2 Peter 3.18, but grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Grow is a mandate. It's the means you got to grow up. You have to learn about God's grace and get some knowledge. The plan is there, but you've got to learn what the plan is. I mean, when you had to learn how to drive, didn't you? You get in the car, drive down the road, but you had to learn how to drive. so you could get where you're going well you have to learn the christian life what it means to live the christian life how you live the christian life is a process of learning it in second timothy 2 15 study to show yourself approved unto god a workman that needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth my pastor used to quote that every day he taught the bible he would quote that verse This shows you that we have to be approved unto God and rightly divide the truth. Not to be ashamed when we show up at the judgment seat of Christ and figure out we did it the wrong way. All of these verses that I just read to you make us learn and it's apparent to us that we must learn what his plan is for each one of us. And that's why I constantly encourage you to establish a flatline in your soul. In the mentality of your soul, I encourage you to learn God's problem-solving devices. There are 10 of them that we can identify for you. Rebound is the first one. That's how you deal with sin. The filling of the Holy Spirit is the second one. That's how you deal with your old sin nature. The faith rest drill is the third one. That's how you deal with unexpected things that happen. Grace orientation, biblical orientation, a personal sense of destiny, virtue love, which is personal love for God and personal love for others. Sharing the happiness of God, which is what the Lord Jesus Christ said in John 15, 11, I've told you these things so that my joy might be in you and occupation with Christ. No longer me, but Christ in me, Paul said. Those 10 problem-solving devices are the curriculum for the Christian life, and we have to learn them. God gave you that curriculum. It's Bible doctrine, and he gives you an instructor called a pastor teacher. I want to remind you of this. The pastor teacher is the one who's supposed to have the gift of studying and teaching the Bible to you. He's supposed to teach you the curriculum, the course of how to live that supernatural life called the Christian life. The supernatural life requires supernatural assets. And there are supernatural assets God's given you too that I can identify. Hebrews 4.12, for the word of God is alive and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder the soul and the spirit and the joints and the marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. So the word of God is alive and powerful. It's a supernatural asset. The fact that you have a Bible, the fact that you have the scriptures, the fact that they can discern for you your thoughts and the intentions. See, this is what it's all about. God gives you the ability to discern what's right. God gives you the ability to discern what's wrong. But you have to have some knowledge and insight and understanding to figure that sort of stuff out. So that's one of the supernatural assets, the Bible. In Galatians 5, 17, the other supernatural asset for the desires of the flesh are against the spirit and the desires of the spirit are against the flesh. These are opposed to each other and they try to keep you from doing the things you want to do. So God gave you the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ told the disciples, the Holy Spirit, I'm going to send him to you. I'm going to leave. I'm going to go back to my father, but I'm going to send the Holy Spirit. He'll be with you, lead you, and guide you into truth. And it's the same for you. If you believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, God the Holy Spirit came to live in you, Ephesians 1.13. It's a supernatural asset. When you combine the word of God and the filling of the Holy Spirit, you have the balance of residency in your soul. Imagine a seesaw, the Bible on one end of the seesaw, the Holy Spirit on the other end of the seesaw, and they both get on there and it balances perfect. That's what God has for you. So the first thing, the very first thing that you and I have to learn, the first thing we have to understand is is that we cannot, absolutely no way possible, to live God's plan in the energy of our flesh. Some people are good people, nice people. Some people are ugly, filthy, gross people. But human good is not good. That doesn't impress God. The fact that you don't smoke, you don't drink, you don't cuss, you know, the fact that you're really morally nice, that's the nice. It's good, but that's not impressing God. The Bible says all of our righteousnesses are like a filthy rag in God's eyes, Isaiah 64, 6. So you are not going to get into heaven because you've been a good person. Human good is not the plan of God for your life. It's divine good. It's the good manufactured by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit, guided by Bible doctrine, what the Word of God says. So you have these two assets, the Word of God and the Holy Spirit, and they help you overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil. In Ephesians 1.13, in him whom also when you heard the word of truth, that's the gospel, and you believed in him, that's salvation, you were sealed with the promise of the Holy Spirit. God's communicator to us through his word is the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit, you will never hear what God has to say to you. That's why you are commanded to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 5, 18, do not get drunk with wine. That's debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit. How am I filled with the Holy Spirit? Every time you rebound, every time you confess your known sin to God, you are filled with the Holy Spirit. When you sin, you quench the Holy Spirit, 1 Thessalonians 5, 19. When you sin, you grieve the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 4.30. Don't grieve the Holy Spirit by God in whom you're sealed until the day of redemption. Those two verses tell us that you can turn down the speakers in your soul so that you don't hear what God's telling you through the Bible. The only way you can hear what God's telling you is through the filling of the Holy Spirit. That's why it's critical that you understand problem-solving device number one, how to recover from sin and failure. Assuming you understand this and assuming you use 1 John 1, 9 consistently, then you would be on your way to fulfilling God's plan for your life and time. But remember this, that the Holy Spirit filling you is the empowering to live the plan, but it's not the actual journey. Consider having a tank full of gas and parking your car in the garage and never burning the gas if you don't use it. You must understand that. The filling of the Holy Spirit empowers you But the word of God takes you on the journey. So you have to learn the three steps to realizing what God's will for you is during your time on this earth. The first one we call the directive will of God. The directive will of God. And this is for the believer that's in fellowship. He doesn't have any unconfessed sin in his life. You say, wait, wait, wait, how can I keep up with all my sins? Remember what the verse says in 1 John 1, 9, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. When you go to God and name a known sin, even the ones you don't remember are cleansed from you. So when you're in fellowship, fill with the Holy Spirit. you're empowered to live the Christian life. And that is the directive will of God. He wants you to be in fellowship. He wants you to learn his word. He wants you to consistently apply the word of God into your life. That's called biblical inculcation, which is perception, metabolization, and application. Perception, you hear it. Metabolization, you use it. And application, you apply it. metabolizing the word of God is like eating a meal. I mean, you got a great steak in front of you, but it's not going to give you any energy unless you eat it. That's what it means to metabolize the word of God. Going to church is fine and wonderful, and you can perceive what God wants you to have, but it has to be metabolized, and that's only done by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit. And then there's your volition involved, which is the application. Once you hear it, once you metabolize it, then you apply it. That's the directive will of God for your life. But there is also something called the permissive will of God. And this is for believers who get into carnality, who sin and don't rebound, who get out of fellowship. They're saved, they're going to heaven, but they have not had any fellowship with God. They've quenched the Holy Spirit, they grieve the Holy Spirit, and they are substituting their own desires, their own human volition, over divine sovereignty. They're doing what they want to do and ignoring what God wants them to do. In other words, they're using their volition to be contrary to the will of God. The believer in this is in the permissive will of God. And God's allowing him to do that, allowing him to eventually destroy himself through arrogance. He may justify why he's right and the Bible's wrong. He may get absorbed with what he wants to do and he may destroy himself eventually because he ignored what the Bible told him. You have the ability to destroy yourself by ignoring what the word of God says. And the permissive will of God will let you do that. The permissive will of God functions when you are going contrary to the will of God, what he wants you to do. What does he want you to do? He wants you to be saved. What does he want you to do? He wants you to stay filled with the Holy Spirit. What does he want you to do? He wants you to learn his plan and apply that plan to your life. But the permissive will of God will allow you to chuck all of that and go down the my way highway. and you'll live a life of misery. You'll live a life of personal suffering because you're gonna make bad decisions consistently, and you're going to be sorry someday that you blew it. You only got one shot at it. Why blow it if you only got one shot at it? Get it right. And there's also the third one is the overruling will of God. So we have the directive will of God, the permissive will of God, and then the overruling will of God. This is what we call a wall of fire. If you're in fellowship or even in carnality sometime, the overruling will of God is designed to accomplish God's purpose in spite of your failure. For example, the Apostle Paul, Paul lived under the overruling will of God. The moment he started for Jerusalem, he was supposed to go west to Spain. The overruling will of God was accomplished by severe discipline and punishment in his life. But God, the Holy Spirit, made it absolutely clear what the will of God was for his life. Go west, go to the Gentiles, go to Spain. And Paul completely ignored that and did just the opposite. Now, you can do the same thing. There are three checkpoints for you and me. I have to use this every day, and you must use it also. There are three checkpoints in the will of God. It's necessary for us to use these because we If we are carnal, if we have unconfessed sin in our life, we will rationalize what we want to do. We won't use the checklist. We will rationalize it. I want to do this. I want to do that. And you'll do it anyhow. Or you may call it the will of God, which is nothing more than the lust pattern of your sin nature, which when you combine that with emotions, you're gonna do what you wanna do. People say, well, I prayed about it, right? Well, you weren't in fellowship when you prayed, so the prayer never got any higher than the ceiling. The will of God can be suppressed by your emotional decisions or your irrationality when you rationalize why this is what you should be doing. I've done this and you've done it too. I remember one time purchasing something that I should not have purchased. And I was like, I could hear the Lord's voice in my conscience, not literally, but I could think about that. You dummy, you never should have done that. And I paid the price for it. Took me a long time to get rid of that goofy thing that I purchased because I didn't listen. So there is what we call the geographical will of God. And this is very important. I know people who've changed their whole life because of this. Where does God want me to be? I can tell you where he wants you to be. He wants you to be sitting under the teaching of a wonderful qualified pastor teacher. And I know people that have moved from one location to another so they could sit under a well-qualified pastor and get face-to-face Bible teaching. So the geographical will of God is God has a specific place he wants you to be, where he wants you to live. He also has what we call the viewpoint will of God. What does he want me to think? And that's where I shared those verses with you about study and grow and learn and apply. And then there's the operational will of God. What does he want me to do? What has God prepared me to do? What kind of spiritual gift has God given me? So this divine guidance is the doctrine of you determining the will of God for your life. Most people want to run to somebody else and get some counseling. What do you think I should do, brother? What should I do, brother? If you're not learning the Word of God daily, all the counseling in the world will not help you determine God's will for your life. Divine guidance and the execution of the will of God is a private matter between you and between God. Listen to the Bible, Proverbs 3, 5 through 7. Trust in the Lord with all of your heart. Do not lean to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes. Fear the Lord. Turn away from evil. There it is, very carefully laid out for you. Listen to Matthew 7.13. Go in through the narrow door. The door is wide, and the road is easy that leads to hell. So be prepared to be tested if you intend to find God's will for your life. because distractions are everywhere and you cannot afford to waste years being impulsive like you have been. If you'll stay filled with the Holy Spirit, if you'll be diligent to study, learn, and apply God's word and wait, then you can fulfill Ephesians 5, 15 through 17. Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise, but as wise, making the best use of the time because the days are evil. Therefore, don't be foolish. but understand what the will of God is. And that's what we've been discussing this morning. What is the will of God for your life? One more thing, it is the will of God for you to have eternal life through the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross. My prayer is if you've never accepted Christ as your savior, you will do it today. that you will humbly bow your head and ask God to cleanse you from your sin and tell him that you are believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and you are willing to receive him as your Savior. It's a wonderful thing. It's the most significant decision you'll ever make, and it definitely is a life-changing experience. Well, I haven't played with your emotions. I hope you've been listening. I hope you've been learning. I hope you'll apply. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Join Mike Gallagher as he dives deep into the complex and often chaotic world of politics in today's America. From New York City's upcoming mayoral race to the strategies of the Democratic Party, Gallagher pulls no punches in his critique of political figures and tactics. In this episode, he discusses the unexpected endorsements from prominent Republicans for Andrew Cuomo and delves into the heated debate about whether Curtis Sliwa should step aside for the former governor. It's an hour of compelling conversation filled with political insights you won't want to miss.
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I know sometimes I sound like a broken record, and I apologize for sounding like a broken record, but I can't get over the state of today's Democrat Party. It's unreal. It's incredible how today's Democrat Party is on the side of narco-terrorists and criminal illegal immigrants. And the shutdown that they are admitting, they're hurting Americans purposefully in order to gain leverage over Donald Trump. They actually are saying that out loud. We are in some of the wildest times I've ever experienced in my life. We're about to see possibly a communist Islamist become the mayor of New York City. And he had a bad debate last night. Don't know if it's going to matter. Maybe it will. I don't know. But what I do know, what I do know is that it is preposterous. to suggest that Curtis Lewa should drop out on the part of any Republican. And a number of prominent Republicans are doing just that. I heard a guest on Chris Stegall's show this morning. I don't know his name. Chris often has really smart guests where you kind of learn. You get kernels of knowledge. It's one thing I love about when I listen to my colleagues and watch different shows that are on my, you know, I'm part of the team. And Chris's guest made a very plaintive, simple point. Curtis Lewell won the primary. Cuomo didn't. Zoran Mamdani is the primary winner. He's the Democrat. Curtis is the Republican. What does it feel like to be a Republican and say you endorse Andrew Cuomo? One of the most scandalous governors in the history of America. The guest on Chris's show called him the COVID killer. And as a Republican, I mean, I get if you're a Democrat. I get if you're independent. I get if you're progressive, whatever you want to call yourself. But if you're a Republican, if you're a conservative Republican, I wonder what it feels like to say, oh, Curtis should step down and you should vote for Andrew Cuomo. A Republican endorsing Andrew Cuomo, of all people. Makes you want to take a shower. More on that in just a moment. But I've got to go back to the state of today's Democrat Party. This lockdown, this shutdown, whatever you call it, the Schumer shutdown, of course, it's the Democrats who will not vote on a continuing resolution. Even the mainstream media is acknowledging that they want to hurt Americans. And I'm not kidding. They want to hurt Americans. I want you to hear the House Minority Whip. out of Massachusetts, a woman named Catherine Clark. I missed this clip yesterday, and I want to revisit it today because this is astounding. She's the Democrat whip, Congresswoman Catherine Clark, sitting down with Chad Pergram on Fox News. Every once in a while, people say the quiet part out loud. And we've all suspected that the Democrats want to hurt farmers. They want to hurt veterans. They want to hurt poor people. They want the SNAP benefits to run out. They want kids to go to bed hungry. They truly do want to hurt Americans. And I'm not saying this as just another big-mouth talk show host. They're saying it. They're admitting it. The Democrat whip is in an important position of responsibility. I want you to hear Catherine Clark. Here is exactly what she admitted to Fox News Channel's Chad Pergry.
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I mean, shutdowns are terrible. And of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leveraged times we have.
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It's one of the few leverage times we, they're leveraging pain and anguish and hunger to try to make Trump look bad and win this battle that is totally unwinnable. How are they going to win? What are they going to win? It's like the No Kings protests. What did you want to accomplish? What do you think is going to happen? Trump's going to resign and invite Pete Buttigieg to be the next president? What do you think the no kings thing is going to accomplish? Trump's going to say, yeah, you got me. I give, I would like to now officially resign from office, a la Richard Nixon, and I'm going to anoint Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to become president. Is that what the No Kings people expect? Because other than walking around and wasting your Saturday, you didn't move the needle at all. You didn't do anything. Other than maybe fundraise? I don't know. But when they say, when they admit what they're doing, you better pay attention. They hate us. Do you understand this? The Democrats hate Americans. They just do. I've got to play this again for you. One more time. I give you the Democrat whip, Catherine Clark from Massachusetts.
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I mean, shutdowns are terrible. And of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leveraged times we have.
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I am grateful for her honesty and her transparency. I am appreciative that the Democrat whip is willing to go on record on Fox News of all places and confirm what we've suspected all along. The Democrats of 2025 hate the United States of America. They despise the American people. And they want to make us suffer. They want to inflict the maximum amount of pain. One Democrat out of Texas went on TV and said she wants to kill us. She wants to take a knife to our throats. So this is what you have to be aware of. Prove me wrong. Democrats hate the American people. Prove me wrong, as Charlie would say. 800-655-MIKE. How else can you receive that confirmation from Catherine Clark? What other conclusion could you reach? 800-655-MIKE. We're in the Relief Factor Studios. It is Thursday, October the 7th. No, it's not the 7th. My gosh, it's the 23rd. See, I'm like Ron Burgundy. I'm Ron Burgundy. Welcome to the news. The thing on my page here said October 7th, and I read it like a dope. I also did the Salem News Channel tease at the top of the hour. Sometimes we tape some of those, and sometimes we do them live. I was doing it live, and I forgot I was doing it live, and I almost stopped and started over and said, take two, live. And you just know all the suits are watching. It's all I needed to do. I'm having a day already. So make me happy and fill up my phone lines because you know me. I love loaded lines. 800-655-MIKE. Call or text. One number does it all. I want to put your voice front and center here on this Thursday, October 25th episode of the Mike Gallagher Show. Join us, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I like to playfully compete with people, and I mentioned Chris DeGaulle, and I heard him say this morning that he lost 40 pounds on the PhD weight loss program, and he looks great. But guess who lost more? 53 pounds, thank you very much. And I've kept it off because I, too, love the Ph.D. weight loss program. And I'm proud to say I was the original one nationally. It was Joey Hudson locally in South Carolina who first started singing Ashley Lucas' praises. And then it just took off like wildfire. Ph.D. weight loss. and Dr. Ashley Lucas' program has taken America by storm. It's the only program that guarantees your success and your results. Do not say you're going to wait until the first of the year to take the weight off. When you call today, I've got a special for the month of October. When you call now, They'll waive your consultation fee, you'll get two extra weeks free, and they'll cover the cost of your food during the program. You'll also get Dr. Ashley's book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. Hurry, this offer's only good in October. So make the decision today to say goodbye to those unwanted pounds, lose the weight, keep it off, PhD weight loss. Call 864-644-1900. 864-644-1900. Or go to MyPhDWeightLoss.com. MyPhDWeightLoss.com. Yes, I know Mike in Atlanta. It's October 23rd. Even when I'm trying to make it up, I don't make it up. I'm telling you, you're in for a day. Buckle up. Like my kids used to say, they don't know if it's worse when I'm in a good mood or a bad mood. Brace yourself. I'm in a very good mood. Especially if you join me at 1-800-655-MIKE. Hey, I've got to tell you, Tritail's Premium Beef, my favorite meat delivery service in the world, they've got a deal right now that you can't miss. For the first 30 orders over $499, they're going to throw in a roast absolutely free. That's right, a centerpiece meal straight from their Texas ranch added to your order at no cost. Here's the thing, once those 30 are gone, they're gone. No second chances, no rain checks. This is ranch life, not retail stores, not retail games. Don't wait. Gather your family, feed your table, feed your legacy. And if you're the kind of person who says, well, I'll get to it tomorrow, let me remind you, tomorrow's roast will be somebody else's. And Tritail's Premium Beef still has all my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box. Just for you. Get one or two of those, add some of your favorites, and get yourself that free roast. Whether or not you get a free roast, you always get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Not a trick. It's a treat as this offer expires halloween night 10 31 is the last day to get that free roast go right now to try beef.com slash gallagher that's try beef.com slash gallagher try beef.com slash gallagher
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Uh-oh, I did it now. I publicly picked a fight with a couple of my colleagues on social media. I'm going to need your help. Come to my rescue. I picked a fight with Hugh Hewitt, my friend and colleague. And Sid Rosenberg, who's also a friend and colleague, not for the same company. Sid, of course, works for another radio station in New York, WABC. Sid has been very high profile and is now sort of turning on his friend Curtis Lewa and endorsing Andrew Cuomo. That's what Hugh did. Hugh and I and Joe Piscopo and Kevin McCullough, we were all on a panel a couple of weeks ago in New York City. Thousands of people participated, and Hugh came right out of the gate. You've got to vote Cuomo! You've got to vote for Cuomo! Andrew Cuomo! And I just, I can't, look, I wavered. I get it. Politically, pragmatically, oh, okay. Numbers-wise, it's probably... The easy way out. You say, well, maybe Cuomo has a better chance. Cuomo! Andrew Cuomo! Do you know who he is? Do you get who he is? What does it feel like to be a Republican and endorse a scoundrel like Andrew Cuomo? What does that feel like? And so I stupidly took to X... And I made a public comment. I reposted both Sid and Hugh. Here's the Sid Rosenberg little video clip. It says, breaking news, after backing Curtis Lewa for years, Sid Rosenberg says it's time for New York Republicans to be realistic about this mayoral race. And Sid said, Curtis isn't going to win. I can't lose this city to Mom Donnie. And then Hugh reposted that, and Hugh wrote, Curtis cannot win, and New York City voters have to get their arms around just how awful a Mamdani run NYC would be. This is a failure of practical imagination happening here. A Mamdani mayoralty would be an epic disaster for the city, the state, and the U.S. New York City cannot have a San Francisco spiral. Incidentally, some would argue that New York is already in that spiral. So I simply posted on X to Hugh and to Sid, it must feel awful. for my Republican friends to endorse a guy like Cuomo. Thankfully, there's an easy solution. Don't. That's all I posted. I'm going to need your help. Drop whatever you're doing and go to my X account. My handle is at Gallagher show. Don't forget the H in Gallagher. Please go to at Gallagher show on X and Stop whatever you're doing and weigh in. Look, I may wind up getting a beating over this. I may wind up on the short end of the stick. Maybe you're going to side with Sid and Hugh. Maybe you're going to want to be an Andrew Cuomo lover. Because that's what they're doing. They're endorsing the guy that led to thousands of nursing home deaths. The guy who was literally run out of Albany because of his scandalous behavior. An arrogant narcissist who once said conservatives who are pro-life aren't even welcome in New York State. That's the guy that my friends, Hugh and Sid, are endorsing. And I'm mystified. Again, there's an easy way to sleep better at night. Do the right thing. And there's no way Hugh Hewitt thinks it's correct or right or just to endorse a man like Andrew Cuomo. There's no way Sid Rosenberg, as sharp-elbowed as he is and he's bombastic and he's a great guy. They're both great guys. And normally, they're common-sense conservative Republicans. But on this one, nah. You've got to look in the mirror. And you cannot possibly call yourself a Republican and say you want to endorse, you want to enthusiastically support a bum, a scoundrel, a guy like Andrew Cuomo. Maybe Hugh and Sid hope people have short memories. Maybe they forget what Cuomo was. Maybe they think people aren't going to remember what Cuomo did. I don't know. It's wild. The only hope for New York is... And I heard a guest this morning on Chris DeGaulle's show. And again, another friend and a colleague. Chris was interviewing John Hayward. He's the National Security Deputy Editor over at Breitbart. And John made a pitch-perfect point. He said, look, if New Yorkers... are going to inflict Zoran Mamdani upon themselves, then that's on them. It's not up to the Republican nominee for mayor to drop out. Andrew Cuomo didn't even win a primary. The two contenders are Curtis and Zoran. And if New Yorkers have a lick of sense, they're not going to doom themselves to an Islamist, communist, Democrat socialist who did a terrible job last night in the final debate. Here's a little montage that Fox News Channel put together of this grinning idiot, this dangerous idiot. Dangerous guy who's a wolf in sheep's clothing, sitting there smirking and refusing to answer question after question after question. Check this out.
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Last debate, you said you're still for mayoral accountability for educational outcomes. Can you try to clarify that? This is a system where we are failing to deliver excellence to students, to teachers, to parents. And it is time to have a mayor who understands not only the crisis in front of us, but the fact that we have to change our ways if we want to change our results.
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There was reference to the three housing-related charter amendment questions. Where do you stand on those?
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I'm appreciative that those measures will be on the ballot and that New Yorkers will be able to cast their votes for them. What is your opinion, Zoran? Come on.
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Yes or no. What is your opinion? Yes or no, Zoran? Don't be a politician here. My question to you was, do you support the three ballot amendment questions? I have not yet taken a position on those ballot amendments. What a shocker. What a shocker. Once he takes it, he'll change it anyway. You've called for reorganizing the NYPD to create this Department of Community Safety. Explain really what you have in mind.
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I trust the dispatchers who would be receiving these calls to make the determination as to whether there was any indication of violence. The reason I believe in the efficacy of this approach is because of the fact that it has been delivered elsewhere in the country.
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Oh, yeah, right. A dispatcher is going to answer a call for help from somebody who's experiencing a violent criminal, the dispatcher should make a snap assessment over the phone as to whether or not it should be a police officer who responds or a social worker. People who call 911 are desperate. They need the cops. They're experiencing imminent violence. You know what they often do? as a councilwoman in New York pointed out, they often have to maintain their composure on the phone because they're terrified. They're about to get killed. And Zoran wants Gladys, the dispatcher, to sit there and determine whether or not we're going to send the police or a social worker. I mean, he's dangerous. He's just dangerous. And according to my fellow talk show hosts, Hugh Hewitt and Sid Rosenberg, the answer is to support Andrew, or as John Hayward calls him, the COVID killer, Cuomo. Wow, what a Faustian bargain, huh? So I need your help. Come on, I'm going to check out the X page. Let's see if there's any comments there. Let me look at it right now here on my phone. Just check out X. I spent a lot of time there. And again, I want you to react to my comment about how awful it must feel for good people to endorse a guy like Andrew Cuomo. And I say, thankfully, there's an easy solution. Don't. Oh, look at that, a whole bunch of comments already. Let's see the comments. Word of the Play said, the spiral has already begun. Mike is right. Islamists and liberals have joined together against Republicans until the infiltration, subjugation, and domination of Islamists in our towns and cities. Jennifer, never vote for Cuomo. Yes, Mike, do the right thing. Kurt, I know Mike's opinion of what Hewitt is saying. I share it. Hewitt throws the conservative overboard. Now, by the way, don't make this about like a personality battle with Mike and Hugh and Sid. We're talking policy here. Policy, policy, policy. U.S. Anglophile writes, Mike, I agree with you and your caller. What's the moral thing to do? You answered without hesitation. Curtis Sliwa. Jackie, thanks for this, Mike. I completely agree. Can I say Big Turd? Why not? At Big Turd says, how quickly we forget about how awesome Andrew Cuomo is. Here's one. Thousands of nursing home deaths during COVID. Sarah, agree, Mike, don't. Jolly Roger won. All Republicans should be lined up behind him. So this is good. We're off to a good start. We're off to a good start. So go drop whatever you're doing. Go to X. Find me at Gallagher Show. Let's make this thing go viral, viral, viral. Maybe folks like Hugh and Sid, again, good guys. can get the message. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome in. It's a Thursday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show here in the Relief Factor Studios. Join us, 800-655-6453. You ready to drop up to 20 pounds or more by the new year? Have you been struggling with belly fat forever? You know, the older you get, the harder it is to say goodbye to those unwanted pounds. PHD Weight Loss cracked the code. They have a metabolic reset system that's a science-backed way to get your body to burn fat first. Look, I've tried everything my whole life. I counted points. I counted calories. I did crazy starvation diets. Then I met Dr. Ashley Lucas, and I learned all about her brilliant program called PhD Weight Loss, the only program that guarantees your success and your results. If I can lose over 50 pounds and keep it off over a couple of years, you can too. Everybody can't. When you call right now, they'll waive your consultation fee, you'll get two extra weeks free, and they'll cover the cost of your food during the program. Just for booking, you'll get Dr. Ashley's book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. Hurry, call today, 864-644-1900, Ph.D. Weight Loss, 864-644-1900, or visit their website at myphdweightloss.com.
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the mike gallagher show if he really wants to get get them completely you know just losing their minds he should have a whole statuary garden and and bring back robert e lee to the statuary garden right they had really put them to you know not in an early grave we want everyone to be healthy and happy but the history that yeah okay let's do history let's put them all back all the statues back
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In the Relief Factor studios on Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
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I'm loving all these comments on the X account. Hey, follow me. Don't forget now. All I ask, if you're going to get involved in this dialogue on my X account, at Gallagher Show, please follow me. I'll follow you back. Let's have a big day today. A lot of people are commenting. Jameson R. writes, This is a good point. How would you Cuomo supporters feel if Curtis lost by a margin close enough where he could have won if New Yorkers voted for him? Tammy McCarthy writes, Curtis Sliwa loves New York City. Mamdani does not. And Cuomo has rotten policies. The choice is clear. Sid and Hugh, you need to reconsider. Again, if you're just joining us, I decided to respectfully disagree with my friends Hugh Hewitt and Sid Rosenberg, who are all in now, apparently, for Andrew Cuomo in the New York City mayoral race. They want to support a guy who represents a political party that actually and literally... admits to trying to inflict as much harm on Americans as possible over this government shutdown. I want you to hear the Democrat whip, Catherine Clark, from Massachusetts. This is one of the most important sound bites of the week, of the month, of the year, of the decade. Once in a while. Even Democrats are capable of saying the quiet part out loud. Check out what she admitted to Chad Pergram about their strategy of kids going hungry, not getting their food stamps, the SNAP benefits are scheduled to run out, people in the military not getting paid, air traffic controllers, law enforcement. They want the pain, and here's why.
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I mean, shutdowns are terrible. And of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leveraged times we have.
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It's one of the few. They want to gain leverage over President Trump by making Americans suffer with their actions. implementation of this shutdown. And everybody knows it's a Democrat shutdown. Even the mainstream media acknowledges that Schumer and the Democrats could have voted on a clean, continuing resolution by now. They won't do it. Yesterday, 12th no time, 12th vote no. That's the party that friends of mine want to lift up by endorsing Andrew Cuomo. How about Congresswoman Jolanda Jones from Texas? I don't know which district she's in. I think Houston. I'm not sure. No one's given me that yet. I believe she's out of the Houston area. She's another classic. Here's another doozy. Check out what she said as the way to deal with Republicans that you disagree with.
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I'm from the hood, okay? So when a bully comes, like, if there are no rules, you literally have to figure it out. So Donald Trump has changed things, and people trying to do what's always been done is not going to work. And I think that's why Democrats are losing black people. That's why they're losing poor people, because poor people, all they want is for us to fight. So if you hit me in my face, I'm not gonna punch you back in your face. I'm gonna go across your neck. Because we can go back and forth.
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I'm not going to punch you. I'm going to slit your throat. I want you dead. And we get it. Hey, the country mourned Charlie Kirk's assassination. We get it. You disagree with somebody, take them out. You tried to kill Trump twice. The bad guys did. We get it. We get it. This is the state of today's Democrat Party. And pardon my French, I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here and say, oh, you've got to vote for Andrew Cuomo to save New York City. New Yorkers have to save New York City. New Yorkers can save New York City. New Yorkers know the difference between Zoran Mamdani and Curtis Lewa. Cuomo lost to Mamdani in the primary. Remember? Remember? But he's such a scoundrel, he's such a snake, he's such a cockroach that wants to survive, he'll all be an independent then. That's how desperate he is to try to cling to relevance. Now, there's one choice here that New Yorkers have to make, and that's between Zoran Mamdani and Curtis Lewa. Period. Democrats, incidentally, here's the party that Sid and Hugh like, apparently. I'm teasing. I know they don't like the Democrats. I'm going a little overboard here, but I'm excited because I'm emboldened by all the new followers I'm getting on X. After I posted on X today, hey, you don't have to be up at night wondering what happened to your soul by endorsing Andrew Cuomo. Don't do it. Do the right thing. Be fearless. Be strong. Be bold. Do the right thing. But I want to give you a prime example of today's Democrat Party. You know that Nicole Wallace character over on MSNBC? She sat down with an actor named Jeff Daniels. You know him. He's the guy from Dumb and Dumber fame. Jeff Daniels brought a musical instrument. Much to Nicole Wallace's just ecstasy. She was delighted. He decided to sing and play a little song. And she just smiles and soaks it all in. Let me give you what passes for discourse today from the Trump-hating left universe.
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This is a song I wrote called Crazy World, which is how I cope. I've seen a dog's tail wagging. I've seen a grandchild run. I've sung along to a day breaking dawn and a hundred thousand seven suns. I've seen a door held open. I've seen strangers shaking hands. I've seen a kiss from that old flame she missed last a little longer than planned. This crazy world's gone crazy. Who am I to judge? It's nice to know in a world full of hate, there's someone out there still making love.
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They got the inmates in the asylums singing, the crazy world has gone crazier. I know you think I'm making this up. You thought that was AI, didn't you? Look, Caller referenced my love of theater and Broadway. I listen to a channel on SiriusXM called the Broadway Channel. And they often interview Broadway actors. It's actually the funniest thing to listen to how they just talk about their craft. But they always, when they get interviewed, and they do all these long segments and stuff, and they do these cool talkbacks. And look, as a sort of amateur actor myself, I appreciate it. I love the theater. And they're all talking about having to do their job within the darkness that we're suffering through right now. In this time that we're in. This dark time. This scary time. They're all so miserable. I mean, they're on Broadway. They're making a lot of money, and they're getting to do what they do in the best theaters in the world. Oh, it's so dark. It's so terrible. Look at what happened this week with the ICE raid of Chinatown, of Canal Street. Did you see who they arrested? Have you bothered to look at who they got? Now a crowd formed, which is real suspicious, and of course they were in the faces of the ICE officers and they were screaming at them, and you're Nazis and you're fascists, show your face. Did you see who they arrested? They arrested nine criminal illegal immigrants. Nine. Those are the people that were arrested. And not just people who were Just, you know, the hardworking, you know, immigrants yearning to be free. Let me give you an example. Mohamed Nedaye is a criminal illegal from Senegal. He's been arrested for domestic violence, robbery, receiving stolen property, burglary, fraudulent accosting, forgery, counterfeiting, sale of a controlled substance, obstruction, and disorderly conduct. How about Idi Sar? He was arrested on Canal Street. A criminal illegal from Senegal. He was issued a final order of removal by an immigration judge in 2010. Since that time, he's been arrested for obstruction, possession of forged instrument, counterfeiting, drug possession, criminal possession of a controlled substance with intent to steal the cell. How about Mamadou Ndoye? He's a criminal illegal from Mali. He was issued a final order of removal, a final order of removal by an immigration judge in 2008. He's been arrested for assault, counterfeiting, unauthorized use of a motor vehicle, criminal sale of narcotics, possession of a controlled substance? How about Modu Medup, another one from Senegal? He previously assaulted Mexican law enforcement. He entered the U.S. in September of 23 and was released by the Biden administration into the country. Those are the people that New Yorkers are defending. Those are these pathetic people bleeding-heart leftists who are upset at the enforcement of federal immigration law even in New York City. They don't think the rules apply to them. They think New York should be exempt from federal immigration law. But more importantly, just like you heard the House minority whip, They want the pain. They want the criminals, the drug dealers, the traffickers, the hardened criminals. They're on their side. The Democrats in New York are on their side. Astounding. Astounding. It's not hard to be right. It just isn't. This is not a heavy lift to be on the right side of all this stuff.
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The Hamas situation where they're pretty violent people, I would say, that we could put that out in two minutes. We're giving them a chance. They agreed that they'd be very good, very straight. They wouldn't be killing people, and they have killed people. That wasn't the deal we made, but if they don't honor the deal... They'll be taken care of very quickly, but I'd rather not have to do that.
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On Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
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I heard there's been some drama about Tucker Carlson. He mixed it up with a college kid on one of these Turning Point tours. I saw Meghan McKay say, oh, this is just the opposite of what Charlie would do in debating people. I heard somebody else this morning, oh, casting some shade on Tucker. I suspect the person I was hearing isn't much of a Tucker fan. And I thought Megan, look, that's a whole world there right now with Tucker and Candace Owens and some of these folks that are very popular influencers, but they're all sideways, it feels like, over Charlie's assassination. And Megan had the perfect response. Apparently some kid got up and, I don't know, accused Tucker of being worth $50 million, and Tucker said, I'm not worth $50 million, get off the Internet. Because I heard somebody else say, oh, well, why would Tucker criticize being on the Internet? The Internet made him and blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, all kinds of critical stuff said about Tucker. And Megyn Kelly had the perfect response to this condemnation of Tucker Carlson. No one is expecting any of the people subbing for Charlie Kirk, she said, to imitate Charlie. Tucker is standing in for his friend despite his own busy life and not without risk to Tucker's own safety. I think the appropriate reaction is just, thank you, Tucker, and may God bless you and keep you safe. She's right. That's the right reaction. Instead of casting shade on any of the people who are doing these cross-country tours on Charlie's behalf and they're still going strong, carrying the torch... keeping Charlie's image and spirit alive, how about saying thanks for, you know, again, not without any personal risks to your own life? Some of this stuff, I don't even want to bring up Candace Owens. My goodness, I saw a clip of her today. I'm not, I'm just, don't shoot the messenger here. I'm just telling you what she said. She thinks apparently now the Trump administration had Charlie killed. I'm not exaggerating that. I looked at the clip and I watched it three times. It's like two minutes of Candace believing that the Trump administration didn't have any use for Charlie anymore, had him killed. It's why they named a holiday for him, you know, the National Day of Commemoration, and they gave him a boulevard. Candace said when they give you a holiday and they give you some street, that's the tell that they had you killed. And the street, incidentally, that is going to be the Charlie Kirk Boulevard, I think in Florida, isn't even in a very popular part of town. I'm not making any of this up. So some of this stuff, you can go down a rabbit hole, and sometimes I like to be blissfully naive about some of the conversations that they're having. There's a whole conspiracy cottage industry now about Charlie's assassinations. Oh, look at this kid. Look at this guy who was Charlie's chief of staff. Look at the video. He goes left instead of right. Oh, there's a trap door. Are you kidding me? Really? Seriously? That's what you're spending time on? I know that we Americans are cynical by nature. I appreciate that. being doubtful of any official narrative, but you can really go overboard and you're really playing with people's lives. I think Erica hears about this stuff. I think Charlie's parents hear about it. My gosh, isn't the assassination enough? Now you want to pile on and maybe get clicks and comments and support over theorizing about the Trump administration killing Charlie or his own people turning on him and magical trap doors that somehow shot him and the body. It's really, really morbid, awful, dark, dark stuff. Gosh, 22 minutes before the hour, portions of our show sponsored by Rough Greens. I loved hearing the story. Joey got so excited. Joey Hudson called me a while ago and said, you're not going to believe what happened. He said, Jesse, one of the two cockers that Joey and Peg have, was scratching in the middle of the night, and the vet couldn't figure out why. Gave him everything. They'd given him anti-allergy shots and creams. Nothing was working. And then Joey heard about Rough Greens. Dr. Dennis Black's amazing product started sprinkling some Rough Greens on Jesse's food. Within about two weeks, the scratching completely stopped. And even the vet has acknowledged it's all due to Rough Greens. Thousands of pet parents are getting off the vet visit merry-go-round and seeing the difference. I want you to try Rough Greens for yourself. Get the free Jumpstart trial bag. All you do is cover the shipping costs. All you have to do is go to roughgreens.com and use the promo code MikeG to break the vet visit cycle. Rough is spelled R-U-F-F. rough greens.com use the promo code mike g break the vicious cycle today rough greens rough greens.com rough greens so good your dog will ask for it by name mike's in philly hey mike welcome you're on the mike gallagher show hello yeah hi hi um
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This senator, he must have, like, dead emotions. His wife was nearly killed. By a bad guy. And I know there was a little girl that was killed. During that episode. I know.
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I know. And they're on the side of the bad guys, Mike. I just can't get over this. They're on the side of criminal illegals on the streets. They're on the side of narco-terrorists. They're against everything that they're for, we ought to be against. I think most sane people are. Well, you said something really important. It's like they're almost dead inside. They must not have a heart. I can't figure them out. I think they're so driven by their hatred of Trump that no matter what Trump does, they're going to oppose it, period, no matter what it is. The old joke about him curing cancer, they're against it. Do you know how stupid it is to object to a new ballroom being built replacing the East Wing? Like the East Wing is some kind of shrine. It's one addition to the White House. Listen to Colbert. I don't often... No, no, no. Let's do Nicole Wallace. She's a better example. Listen to Nicole Wallace yesterday on MSNBC.
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There's also the matter of how this is paid for. He took corporate donations. So all those corporations, I should disclose, they include our parent company Comcast, are party to the destruction of the East Wing of the White House.
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I should disclose my own company, her own parent company. Now, you know what? She's cocky because she's got a contract. And, you know, I know all about no-cut contracts. I've been blessed to have no-cut contracts all my life, or all my adult life. You know the funny thing, Nicole, about no-cut contracts? They eventually expire, and then they don't renew you because you're stupid enough to blast your own company on television for contributing to a beautiful ballroom that's going to make the White House nice. Oh, there's a destruction of history. Are you kidding? So you keep on that path, Nicole. Why don't you keep doing that? You keep ripping into Comcast. See how that works out for you.
In this riveting episode, we delve into the stunning revelation involving high-profile figures in an illegal gambling scandal that shook the NBA to its core. The coordinated efforts of law enforcement agencies unravel a decade-long operation tied to infamous crime families, sparking debates on gambling ethics and justice. Meanwhile, unsettling parallels are drawn as guests discuss the manipulation of public outrage and identity politics leading to startling divisions within conservative ranks.
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Israeli hostages are released and the war stops in Gaza, but the people who screamed about ending genocide are suddenly silent. Biden administration figures call the Middle East deal bittersweet because they think they deserve the credit. And the shutdown fight highlights what a complete disaster Obamacare is, just like we said it would be. I'm Greg Karambas, inviting you to join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the Three Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the top news, some good laughs, and we'll be done in less than 30 minutes. Follow the Three Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taken into custody today. Former, current NBA players and coaches. What you don't know is that this is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation that spanned the course of years. The FBI led a coordinated takedown across 11 states to arrest over 30 individuals today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into the fraud that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage of the NBA, but we also entered and executed a system of justice against La Casa Nostra to include the Bonanno, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese crime families.
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So when I first saw this story, and this has to do with the Trailblazers coach, and I was reading it, and I'm like, what do you mean illegal gambling? Because that was how it was originally put, like illegal. I'm like, that could mean a number of things. He could be holding something inside his house. But apparently, it's a lot more than that. I mean, you got some of the major families involved in this. You got the Bananos, the Genovese, the Lucchese, the Gambino families are all involved in it. uh they said i'm dying they said that uh it's apparently a big oh it was a big operation that was happening here you know i don't know i yeah you know i look at this and uh they said it was a rigged poker scheme i'm reading some of the um some of the documents on it how much money you think they were dealing with
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Oh, man. I don't even think you can accurately quantify it yet. I mean, how deep did this go? He said it's been going on for 11 years or more. So over 11 years, probably a lot of damn money.
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Do you want to hear a very unpopular opinion? Sure. Am I supposed to be angrier over this than the legal legalized racketeering of my federal government with the taxation scheme? I just can't get mad over stuff like this when we've got the IRS.
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Yeah. If you've never bet on a game or if you've never.
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I've never gambled. I've played slot machines one time in my life and I had one quarter and I won five dollars and that was it.
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Steve, how long have I been telling you that I think the NBA is rigged and the NFL is rigged?
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Since I got hired at this job. Yes.
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Yeah, exactly. It's been pretty obvious to some people.
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So wait a minute. All of the games. Explain this to me because I don't follow it like y'all do.
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Right. And I don't have proof that all of the games were manipulated. But when you have different point spreads and you're like, all right, this team will win by three and a half, you know, whatever. And then all of a sudden at the last seconds of the game, it's magic that they lose by less than that or slightly more than that, depending on which way the betting surges went. Yeah, it kind of after a while gets like, this is obvious.
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I mean, it's bread and circuses. Is anybody surprised? No. That bread and circuses are going to be manipulated?
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Like, what were you saying, Steve? Oh, yeah. I mean, player props are the problem. You should have just been on spreads and not players. Right.
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Little Tori Amos cornflake girl, which I thought was very apropos for the intro to this segment. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. You can listen coast to coast channel 347. Direct TV is where you can watch us do the radio program. Also, the chats at Rumble. We got good stuff at Facebook and X. Let me just throw this out and then we're going to go right to our guest. I think that there is a massive psyop that is being conducted on the right. I think that the thirsty clout chasers and I think that the the weaker members, the newer members of the right who didn't check their progressive ideologies at the door of the big tent when they joined are all susceptible to it. And as a result, we have seen a division erupt. Now, I tend to think that the division may be not it's not as bad yet as it can be, as we're seeing on the left. But it will be if it goes unchecked. And this is something that this movement has seen before during the Reagan years. This movement has seen this sort of ideological division. And it's something that, you know, I saw play out this morning and I've seen it play out with a number of my friends and it's getting a little crazy. And we're going to kind of dive into that and some other things later. with my friend and guest, as you know him, CEO of Babylon Bee, Seth Dillon, at Seth Dillon on X. And he just had to deal with a crazy, really crazy security story where a guy was making death threats against him and was threatening to kill him and his family. Guy lived in Florida. They found out who he is. And then the AG of Florida announced that They they were notified of the threats and they got an arrest warrant and they charged this guy, Nicholas Ray of Spring, Texas, with extortion, written threats to kill and unlawful use of a two way communication device. And he was apparently motivated by this divide on the right. Seth joins us now via video. It's good to see you, my friend, and I'm glad you're safe.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good to see you, too. And so am I. But yeah, thanks for having me on.
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What is happening? What I know, I don't even know where to start. I was like thinking about how we were going to even begin this discussion. And it's honestly not something that I ever thought that we would have to talk about on the right. Maybe that was me being naive. But I you know, it's just it's kind of shocking. Tell us what's happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in this particular case, this really goes back to Charlie's murder. That's where a lot of this started. I mean, some of it goes back before that, obviously. But where I get drawn into this is the origin of that is with Charlie's murder. He was with me and a bunch of other people in the Hamptons back in August. This is about a month before he was killed. And there were a lot of conspiracies floating around about... You know, where Charlie was in his position on Israel and how much pressure was being applied to him by the donors and what happened there in the Hamptons and then some conspiracies about what happened there were circulating. You know, Candace Owens, of course, being at the forefront of propagating those and painting me as someone who was, you know, a malicious and bad actor. who was applying you know pressure to charlie trying to blackmail him uh... i was supposedly involved in some meeting involving him in bill ackman and uh... in bb net yahoo was on the phone offering him a hundred fifty million dollars in to to get back on board with the support of israel he turned that down and then guess what he winds up dead you know it's uh... so there's like this crazy conspiracy That I was caught up into. And a lot of people bought it. A lot of people believed it. Everybody is eager to believe that Israel and the Jews are behind everything, right? Well, not everybody, but, you know, the people who are susceptible to this stuff, who are, you know, having this shoved down their throats all of the time. they buy into it. And so there was a lot of negative sentiment and that's putting it mildly, of course, about me because of this. I was someone who was actually personally friends with Charlie. I was at this event at his invitation. It wasn't anything like it was characterized. But that's where the negative attention came from. And so for several weeks, there was just, what happened in the Hamptons, Seth? Why did you blackmail your friend, Seth? What kind of friend are you, Seth? And so I was getting a lot of this stuff. And then it started to, of course, we started to see some more aggressive things coming out with, in this particular case, Nicholas Wray. actually saying that he wanted to kill me because of my involvement in Charlie's death. And so these are false defamatory statements that were made for the malicious purpose of doing harm to my reputation and putting a target on my back. And people got the message, obviously. So that's how we ended up here. But I'm very grateful. Let me just say before I throw it back to you, very grateful for the prompt and serious response that Florida law enforcement had. The AG took it very seriously. His office took it very seriously. And of course, the prosecutor's office, you know, and. seeking that arrest warrant as soon as possible, getting the subpoenas they needed before they could do that. So I'm grateful to them for having our backs. And it wasn't just me, by the way. I don't want to just make it sound like he was targeting me individually. It was several other people were involved in this. And so nasty stuff, very nasty stuff.
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It is. And you're right. James Uthmeyer, his AG of Florida, did a did a swift and great job at mitigating this and getting this guy because I mean, what the guy was doing. I mean, this is what we talk about when I think a lot of this, you know, is maybe bot driven, but a lot of it's not. And, you know, like what we talk about with the left, you know, there's only so many times that people can call Trump a Nazi and a fascist and all this stuff before somebody out there who's super susceptible to this picks up on it and does something.
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And it's one thing to talk about somebody accurately, like what they've actually said and done, and report truthfully on what they've actually said and done. It's quite another thing to caricature them, to put words in their mouth that they didn't say, to portray them as being Hitler or a Nazi or something when they couldn't be further than the truth for someone like Trump and his supporters, the MAGA coalition. Those types of smears do have very negative consequences. Now, if someone's not actually calling for violence, then they're not responsible for whatever violence somebody does. But they are responsible for planting the seeds where there's fertile ground for that kind of radical reaction. And so I don't know why you would do that. Why would you want to do that unless you're just an evil and malicious person? But, you know, people keep asking me how I'm doing, and I'm like, well, you know, I lost my friend, and then I was accused of playing a role in his murder, and now a lot of my other friends are covering for the people who are responsible for those accusations. So I don't really know how to explain how I'm doing right now, and this is a very unusual situation in my life. I've never experienced anything like this before. I don't wish it on anybody.
SPEAKER 02 :
What's weird to me, and we're talking with Seth Dillon, CEO of the Babylon Bee, about all this, is that I understand if people want to have a disagreement with the Israeli government. But I feel like a lot of the people who are saying that but doing something different couldn't even tell you how their parliament is structured. They can't tell you the difference between Herzog and Netanyahu. They have no idea about politics. You know, the lay of the land, so to speak, over there. And it feels like a veneer for what it really is, which is just anti-Semitism. And it's a bunch of people, not a bunch, but some people on the right who are playing into the identity politics of the left. And that's a leftist thing. Do you think that? Some of this is maybe the consequence of, you know, it's great to have a coalition or a big tent, but there are certain things that are just persona non grata in a coalition. And using identity politics like the left ought to be one of them. Is some of this a failure to enforce that?
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Oh, certainly. I just wrote about this in the free press, by the way, talking about the foolishness of the no enemies to the right principle. I think it's just it's it's. it's not just foolish uh... it's immoral uh... you know to not draw lines to not be willing to say you know the there are certain people that you won't walk arms with uh... a lot of these things you these are things that were the right there was a lot more moral clarity on the right uh... several years ago where The alt-right or, you know, this white supremacist kind of, like, equal but opposite reaction to, like, the leftist Antifa thugs. Like, everybody kind of saw that as being this really fringe, really nasty thing that we didn't want any part of. And we distinguished between ourselves and them. We're like, they keep calling Trump, you know, and his supporters Nazis and Hitler and whatever. Like, we're not like that. There may be people like that on the fringe far right, but we're not like them. Now there are calls to join with them and to bring them into the movement and make them part of the movement. And no one so far has explained to me, first of all, how that's morally justified. But also, how is it politically expedient? How does it help us? How could it do anything but hurt us to bring people who are collectivist? Yeah, they engage in these race-based grievance things. They're supremacists. They're just filled with bigotry and hatred. They have authoritarian impulses. They're collectivists. You add all these things up and it's like, how could we possibly benefit from having them in the conservative movement? That doesn't make any sense. This is a real reckoning for conservatives to decide what is our identity? What is a conservative? That's the next question that we need to be asking. We had that question about what is a woman. Now we need to have it about what is a conservative.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think that's a good point. And what happened to the left when they decided to mainstream the radicals, the street team that they used as an agitated variable to get out the vote?
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Yeah, well, that's a great cautionary tale, right? Because it wasn't just that they tolerated their extremists. I think, you know, including them in their broad coalition was a mistake. But they didn't just include them. They gave them the reins. And so you ended up with a situation where, of course, yes, they did accrue a lot of cultural and institutional power with very radical ideas that they were trying to enforce on all of us from the top down. But they pushed too far, of course. They went so radical that reasonable people, you know, we started to see the erosion of parental rights, we started to see kids being exposed not just to inappropriate materials in their schools, but also... This harmful gender ideology that was leading them down a path of destruction and despair and cutting off healthy body parts. It went so crazy, so far beyond the realm of what's even possible to satirize, that there was natural backlash. backlash to that. Reasonable people had only so much tolerance for that kind of absurdity. And I think they'll only have so much tolerance for the kind of bigotry and authoritarianism that's creeping into the right wing. And so I think it's only prudent from a political standpoint, if you're just looking at it pragmatically, it's prudent to draw those lines. But it's also the right thing to do. Let's not lose sight of that. It's the right thing to do to say, look, this is wrong. You And we shouldn't be welcoming those people. We should be condemning them. And no one should have to ask us to. We should be willingly doing that.
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What do you say to people who argue, well, you know, conservatism has never been implemented? That's like the coordinated response from some of these people. And my thought is that one of the reasons that I'll caucus with Republicans, but I don't consider myself a party member is because there are two left for me. I don't think conservative principles have ever been implemented. Fully Christian conservative principles have never been implemented at the federal level by the GOP. And that's kind of my take on it. What is your thought on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I also, I wasn't sure where you were going with that, but I also hear a lot, well, conservatism, are you trying to say that conservatism has failed? That's the objection?
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Yeah, that's what their argument is. I'm like, you have to implement it or try to before you can say it's failed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yes, you're not wrong. I agree with you there, but it also... It's not the case that right now conservatives are losing. I wouldn't concede that. I do think that conservatives did fail to conserve some things they should have conserved. I think there were a lot of people who were too squishy, a lot of people who were too willing to compromise, that didn't stand their ground on some of these issues. And so we lost a lot of ground because we didn't fight as aggressively as we should have on some of those issues. That's certainly a problem. But I think that, like I was saying, the backlash that was generated by the left's overreach has resulted in some serious and legitimate wins for the right, for conservatism. And, you know, a return of sanity, a return of valuing the truth, reality, staying firmly planted in reality and what's good, objectively good and true. We've seen a lot of victories along those lines. I was just saying the other day, you know, there's a joke I used to tell about how we're so disadvantaged in this fight. It's like being a woman who's just jumped into the pool with Leah Thomas. You know, he's the tall one with the testicles. And so this is like a joke I used to tell about how disadvantaged we are. Well, that joke is old now because Leah Thomas has had those title strips, those records taken away. Like, we're solving these problems. We're pushing back on these things. And so conservatives, I think, are in advance. And the far left, progressive left, is in retreat in the culture and in the courts. And so we are winning a lot right now. And it's just bizarre to me to be having conversations about how the extreme lengths we're going to need to go to in order to win, you know, put win in scare quotes, because I think we're already winning. You know, like, why would we need to abandon the Constitution, go post-constitutional and adopt all of these radical ideas?
SPEAKER 02 :
Or adopt identity politics because we've been without it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And how is that winning when you become like the left? How are you defeating the left?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. So my last question for you, and this is kind of a hard one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Explain it to me like I'm Kamala Harris.
SPEAKER 02 :
Or Hunter Biden, although he might understand it better. So I don't know how this shakes out because I know that when everything happened during like the Reagan years, I think maybe I was I don't think I was alive then. Or if I was, I was maybe like one years old. I don't have that lived memory of it. I just know what I read that, you know, that that sort of aspect of the right was sort of drummed out. I don't know how that looks currently. I don't know how this dissonance is handled and where we go from here, how you can even convince people who are adopting beliefs like this, how they're persuadable to even come away from that. Your thought.
SPEAKER 07 :
You mean like the people that have bought into some of this stuff?
SPEAKER 02 :
And are promoting it and perpetuating it and are like quote unquote influencers or who freak out when you mildly correct them on social media.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, the influence, so there's two problems. There's the young people who are so susceptible to it, and there's the people who are pushing it, the young people who are super receptive to it, and then the cowards in the movement who are, you know, trying not to do anything about it and trying not to confront it head on like they should, like they would have several years ago. You know, there's this popular idea right now that what's really needed more than anything is unity. We can't have this infighting. It's a problem. And I think it's suicidal, ultimately. It's going to end up destroying us. Yeah, it's only going to help the left. I don't think that a lot of these people actually endorse the ideas, the radical ideas, but they for some reason have decided that it's necessary for us to have unity with the people that have these ideas. And again, like I said, I haven't heard a good argument for why that would be. There's certainly no good moral argument for it, but I haven't even heard a good political argument for it.
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Yeah, you've taken a beating and I appreciate you with your consistency and you've been, you know, a good ally and a good friend. And so we're praying for your safety and I'm glad that you guys are safe. And you know, the offer still stands. If you want to come and get John Wick out, you know, come on over to Dallas.
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I want to do that. We'll have to work that out. We'll find a spot on the schedule that works to do that.
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I feel like we've seen this movie and or some aspect of it. A dinosaur egg was unearthed in perfect condition after 70 million years. Not going to lie. My first thought was free pet. They said it's... Argentinian paleontologists found a perfectly preserved 70 million year old dinosaur egg during an excavation. They said it's a spectacular find. They find fossils all the time. They've never found an egg. And they think that it could hold... You think? It could hold genetic material. I feel like this is also a Dave Chappelle skit. I'll have mine over easy, please. Like, it's ballin' when he did MTV Cribs and they had, like, legit dinosaur eggs in the fridge. So... U.S. car repossession surge is more Americans' default on auto loans. Finances are getting tighter. Wall Street sounds the alarm over the strain throughout the car lending market as experts warn of potential risks for the wider economy. They said that they're being cautious, but that they've got a lot of money getting lost in this. Also, let's see, real estate boom towns are going bust. It's called a market correction because certain markets were just super hyper. I thought hyper saturated and I thought a lot of stuff was what am I thinking? The value was exaggerated. That's that's kind of how I look at it. I don't think I'm wrong because you you're familiar with this industry. I really don't. I feel like that's, you know.
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Yeah, we're going to see a correction. And then when the prices come down, you'll start seeing the demand go back up.
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Exactly. Exactly. So I don't think that that's anything necessarily to freak out over. Netflix, their CEO on the Warner Brothers Discovery buyout rumors. They said they have no interest in owning legacy media networks. Huh. Interesting. Also, Luigi Mangione, you know, the guy who stabbed the health care CEO in broad morning light. Or sorry, shot him. Yeah, sorry. Well, the reason why I said that is because I'm looking at this story about how he got beaten up and almost stabbed by ladyboys in Thailand. He got roughed up by a group of dudes dressed as women during a wild night out in Thailand. Some of the ladyboys tried attacking. One of them had a knife. Just interesting facts that come out. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. This story, it's a story of an illegal alien. A Mexican national named Carlitos Parais, 44, of South Los Angeles. He was arrested. I'm looking at his rap sheet here. He got charged with assault on a federal officer. And then he tried to escape arrest. And then one agent responded. He ended up getting shot in the elbow. So why was he? Well, he has been he entered illegally and has been living illegally and apparently doing some other stuff. So I saw him driving his gray Toyota Camry. They surrounded him and then they approached and gave him orders to exit the car and submit to arrest. He refused. He drove the Camry forward and back and was knocking into the law enforcement vehicles. He refused to comply. And then he drove it more aggressively towards one another law enforcement vehicle. And they said that his driving was so aggressive that it escalated to the point that large, what's in the affidavit, large plumes of smoke formed around the Camry. And that was caused by the spinning of the car's tires. There was debris because he was apparently so aggressive, like he was throwing rubber off his tires in all directions. Some of the agents got hit by it. And so... What ended up happening is they were trying to dislodge the Camry because he ran in between two other vehicles. At one point, a federal agent was forced to open fire because the guy was trying to use his vehicle at that point as a murder weapon. And he could be jailed for up to eight years if he's convicted. But here's the kicker. The Los Angeles City Council hailed him as a, quote, pillar of our community. And they gave him an award. He was honored and presented with a framed award certificate of recognition. And they had a big thing and they gave it to him. They had photos of them awarding him this. I am without words, Cain.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, it just is another check on the list of proof that Democrats care way more about criminals and illegals than they do the American citizen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Here's a question. So when do we as citizens get the privilege of ignoring whatever laws we want to ignore?
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Let alone be awarded for it.
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Because I have some. I have some that I don't. I don't want to follow. Yeah, and then we could get awards for it. I mean. Can you imagine? So I want to not also follow laws and get an award for not following the law. There are probably like veterans in Los Angeles. Well, there are veterans in Los Angeles who never got an award and they're probably drug addicted and left on the sidewalk. But this guy, he gets a framed award. Look, it's got the, if you're watching the simulcast, it has the seal, everything on it. Look, he's got the, it's all framed. You know, they probably gave him the frame too. He got the whole thing. They had it all pro-done. Is that not something? That's the guy. So he gets celebrated and awarded. And we wonder why we have such a problem with lawlessness and disorder, right? Now, what's more? So one of our listeners on social goes by Poly Girl. In Hennepin County, this is kind of wild. Felony burglary is now a citation offense. No arrest, no booking. That's what it is. And this is in Minnesota, Hennepin County. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So a felony in Hennepin County, Minnesota is now just a ticket. You only get a ticket. That's a new thing. That's kind of like what they were doing in California, right? So they've changed them. And they there's there's paperwork that shows that these are all being downgraded. Bloomington City attorney, like, for instance, third degree burglary, interest public building steals. And that's just a citation. Now, there's no arrest. There's no anything. It's a felony. But now they're they're not even prosecuting it as such. You know, a lot of these clearance rates for a lot of these liberal cities and by clearance rates, I mean, you know, where you have these felonious activities and whether you get an arrest or you have somebody go to trial, that counts as whether or not you're clearing that case. They have dropped so low. I think in Detroit, it's like 15% of the cases that they deal with actually. I mean, it's staggering. It is staggering. The... structure the judicial system in this restorative justice. There are so many studies that dance around it, but they don't want to actually confirm that that's what's really driving so much of this stuff. I've never seen anything like this. I mean, it's wild, but this is part of the part of the issue as it pertains to the criminal justice system. You have these prosecutors that are just issuing wrist slaps and judges that are issuing wrist slaps, and they think that that somehow is going to be better in mitigating crime than just enforcing the law. Like, for instance, the Glock thing, which we will be talking about more, where they're trying to force Glock to redesign their firearms because the criminal's will commit a felony by installing a switch in it, which anything is modifiable no matter what. And it's not what gets me is like you got. I mean, for crying out loud, you know who the criminals are. You know who the people are doing it instead of arresting them. They're making Glock literally redesign their guns. That's like making vehicles redesign or automobile manufacturers redesign their vehicles because people are stealing them. you're going to blame the product and act like the attractiveness and the covetousness of it is the problem and not the law breaking. That's where we are. You're going to get more vigilantism if this keeps up. That's a guarantee.
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In this episode, Dana Lash takes a deep dive into the ongoing controversies surrounding the White House renovations and the political theatre that accompanies it. She debates the rhetoric used by the left and right, questioning the dramatization of structural changes and the hidden agendas behind the criticism. Dana also discusses her views on maximalism, using decor preferences to illustrate broader societal contradictions.
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In order to do it properly, we had to take down the existing structure. The way it was shown, it looked like we were touching the White House. We don't touch the White House. That's a bridge, a glass bridge, going from the White House to the ballroom. Then you get into the lobby of the ballroom, and then you go into the magnificent, the main room. And it's something that... Has gotten incredible reviews.
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I don't understand the reactions over this. I really don't. I don't get the left being so upset over this. That, you know, everything is a mess. They're freaking out. They're acting like somebody is taking down the obelisk. Or that... I mean, I don't have, I don't, what can I compare it to? Like the Jefferson Memorial or the Lincoln Memorial, something. They act like that, I don't get it. I just don't get the reaction. If you know anything about, you know, that wing, didn't we talk, did I get into the deep dive of all of the additions? You guys don't care about the deep dive of all of the additions, do you? I mean, because you understand that this is just all performative stuff. They're trying to find a way, anything, the left, to get the right agitated or to get their base agitated. They're like, well, look, here's Trump literally destroying stuff. And if you don't vote, what, he's going to destroy more things? I don't get it. But the whole... I think I saw the, the architectural renderings. I was looking for the word, the architectural renderings. It looks really nice. The outside of it, it like matches the rest of the facade actually better. It's a, there's better drainage because there's other things that are going into this that I don't think people realize, like the drainage aspects of it, the you know, the structural integrity things of, of that nature. And it's, I mean, it looks so nice. It's you're getting a free ballroom for crying out loud. You're getting a free ballroom. What is not to love? I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday. We don't agree on a lot. She didn't like my comparison to or talking about Hillary Clinton and all that stuff because I was going after Hillary Clinton for being so stupid about all of this. And The whole point is that you're getting a free ballroom and you don't we're not having to pay for it, which is nice. You're not having to pay for it. And the inside. OK, the inside is going to be all gold because it's Trump. I don't know if I like all the gold, though. I got to be honest, although I'm a maximalist and I think that more is more. So like, you know, the rule that should that Coco Chanel, this is something all men, all your wives know this. The rule that Coco Chanel had is that when you are getting ready to go out for the evening, if you're a lady and you do a last look like a fit check right in front of the mirror, you're supposed to take off one of your accessories. So if you're wearing earrings and a necklace and rings and bracelets, you have to take off, you know, either your earrings or, you know, whatever. You got to take off one of them. And I just think, no, put one back on. Put another one back on. That's what you got to do. I don't know. I'm just, maybe I'm odd. I don't know. But that's just the way that I look at stuff. So I think more is more. And I really want to get away with, from this whole thing that we can't, I don't know, can't have, if he wants all gold, have all gold. Welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this first hour. I don't know what's happening. First hour. It's crazy. We have allergies in Texas. We have cedar in Texas. It's going crazy. We're going to get into this with the ballroom. We're going to get into the thing with the ranchers. I'm going to talk a little bit more about the situation with the SCOTUS thing and Glock and all of that stuff because a lot of you had questions about it and I was trying not to be really in the weeds with it because there's a lot there, but we'll talk about some of that. We'll get into all of it. We got a lot to get into and we have some guests on today. So as we move this whole situation, if I may, if you just indulge me for a moment with the ballroom, One of my friends said, because I think, who was it? I can't remember. Somebody was talking about the sanctity of the White House, like it's a church. You know, the left, the same people that are upset over this ballroom, these are the people who didn't say anything about the church that was burned down, St. John's Church, which is right across the Lafayette Square. And it's like right there, right across the street from... The White House. It's a historic church. And, you know, you drive past it anytime you go anywhere in D.C. And they set it on fire, the left did. And all these people that are complaining about the East Wing. You know what the East Wing is? The East Wing was just some old, cramped office spaces. That's all it was. There's not like a lot. There was not a lot there. I don't know why everybody's getting so messed up about it. It's not part of the historical context. structure. It's not part of anything the left just needs something to bitch and moan about because they need to agitate their base. They need to agitate their base so bad. in order to keep up the momentum, they don't have anything to get excited about. What are they going to get excited about? The shutdown? They don't have anything to get excited about. They don't have any... But what policies have Democrats put forward that their voters could go, oh, it's really exciting. I just can't wait to go vote for that. None. None. They have none. They've put nothing forward. What do they have to get their people agitated and excited over? Stupid stuff like this. This kind of stuff. This is what I'm talking about. So, I don't know. I... I'm just... Because this is like, what, the third day that this has been one of the leading dramatic things, and I'm so tired of it. I think that you guys and me, we're all on the same page. I am so tired of leftist drama. So tired of our leftist drama. Including identity politics stuff on the right. So, just, it's insane. I'm so damn tired of it. We'll talk about some of that coming up. So, this... This... Also, sidebar, one of the reasons I think why they're keeping this thing with the White House going, and again, it's a free ballroom. We're all getting a free ballroom. You get a free ballroom. Kane, Merry Christmas. You got a free ballroom, my dude. With gold. With gold. Okay, one of you sent me, I got one piece of hate mail about this out of all of the issues that I get hate mail about. And I don't know why. I'm going to save it. It kind of made me mad. Someone was like, they were accusing me of having bad taste because I didn't object to all the gold in the Oval Office. Again, I am a maximalist. I only accidentally dress postmodern because I can't dress myself. That's King can attest. It's purely accidental. I look like a Dolce & Gabbana nightmare if I try to wear color. It's horrible. Nobody wants that. The nation doesn't need it, nor do you. It's not that bad. Kane. You're exaggerating. So bad. So anyway, my whole point, someone was like, you just have really bad taste if you think all that gold. Shut up. More is more. We are maximalists here. Tasteful Questionably maximalists. I don't do the tiny house thing. I don't believe that you should live in a box here. We're going to reconfigure this outhouse and make it a little. Shut up. It's a she shed. No, it's a prison. We're not doing that. We don't do the all white shiplap because I just know. Kill me now. Not going to know the all white. Like, here's your all white beige. Everything's beige. all beige nobody wants that nobody wants beige everything we're just not into it uh and i don't um you know uh who was it one of my friends was really into uh the whole thing oh gosh was it called shabby chic i mean it has it's it's an aesthetic that's somewhat charming and i think it there's like um uh what do i maybe nostalgic but you're it's basically just like white crappy That's all it is. Am I being mean? I don't mean to be mean. If that's your style, you can make fun of mine all you want to. I'm not going to be offended. My whole point in saying this is that I have no objection to all of the gold in the White House because of that. Bring it on. Why shouldn't it look like Versailles? Why shouldn't it? Why shouldn't we have our nation's treasures showcased to rub in the faces of all the despotic leaders of third, I can't say the word, third world hell holes? See, why shouldn't we? I'm all for that. Go ahead and do it. So stop it. More is more. We've got to get into this ranch war. I'm sure you guys have been following this. This is what we've got on deck coming up after headlines. So the ranch war, I don't know. I've got lawlessness and disorder. There's a lot of weeping and ashing of teeth over this situation with Argentina because now it's being hailed as a taxpayer bailout of Argentina that may grow to $40 billion. And this is something that Scott Besson announced. It was originally a $20 billion bailout and now – He's under the plan. He's exchanging our dollars for Argentinian currency. And Trump has said that it's not going to be very beneficial to Americans. We're going to talk about it because a lot of people are very angry about this. I get it. So we're going to address it. We'll get into it. Also, lawlessness and disorder. The illegal alien who rammed federal agents. This is a crazy story that I cannot believe is real, but it is. This story, this illegal immigrant. He was in L.A. He was telling other people about the ICE raids. He rammed his vehicle into an ICE vehicle and they gave him an award. Like the city legit had a ceremony and they gave this dude an award. Have you ever gotten an award from your city? Kane, you pay your stuff on time. Did you ever get an award from your city?
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I feel like we've seen this movie, or some aspect of it. A dinosaur egg was unearthed in perfect condition. What? After 70 million years, not gonna lie, my first thought was, free pet? They said it's... Argentinian paleontologists found a perfectly preserved 70 million year old dinosaur egg during an excavation. They said it's a spectacular find. They find fossils all the time. They've never found an egg. And they think that it could hold... You think? It could hold genetic material. I feel like this is also a Dave Chappelle skit. I'll have mine over easy, please. Like, it's ballin' when he did MTV Cribs and they had, like, legit dinosaur eggs in the fridge. So... U.S. car repossession surge is more Americans' default on auto loans. Finances are getting tighter. Wall Street sounds the alarm over the strain throughout the car lending market as experts warn of potential risks for the wider economy. They said that they're being cautious, but that they've got a lot of money getting lost in this. Also, let's see, real estate boom towns are going bust. It's called a market correction because certain markets were just super hyper. I thought hyper saturated and I thought a lot of stuff was what am I thinking? The value was exaggerated. That's that's kind of how I look at it. I don't think I'm wrong because you you're familiar with this industry. I really don't. I feel like that's, you know.
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Yeah, we're going to see a correction. And then when the prices come down, you'll start seeing the demand go back up.
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Exactly. Exactly. So I don't think that that's anything necessarily to freak out over. Netflix, their CEO on the Warner Brothers Discovery buyout rumors. They said they have no interest in owning legacy media networks. Huh. Interesting. Also, Luigi Mangione, you know, the guy who stabbed the health care CEO in broad morning light. Or sorry, shot him. Yeah, sorry. Well, the reason why I said that is because I'm looking at this story about how he got beaten up and almost stabbed by ladyboys in Thailand. He got roughed up by a group of dudes dressed as women during a wild night out in Thailand. Some of the ladyboys tried to attack him. One of them had a knife. Just interesting facts that come out. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. America's tap water is a cocktail of heavy metals and toxins, the result of corroded pipes that we should have replaced decades ago. Let me just ask anybody in Flint, Michigan. You got lead, heavy metals, rust, basically liquid poison right off the tap. So when I tried Cove Pure on my counter, it was so easy. No plumber, no drilling. You just plug it in and pick your water temperature on the touch screen. And honestly, it actually tastes like water, not like death. So that's why I use the Cove Pure water purifier to keep my family safe. Unlike the government, Co-Pure actually does its job. Lead in your water doesn't stop at a gross taste. It can actually cause a host of serious medical issues. But yeah, sure, go ahead. Trust the city with your kid's health. I mean, what could go wrong? Co-Pure's ClearWave technology removes up to 99.9% of contaminants. So don't wait for the government to help. Take back control of your family's health and finally drink water the way that it was meant to be. Visit CovePure.com slash Dana for $200 off. That's CovePure.com slash Dana.
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Well, I mean, the question is, bottom line, these are drug boats. If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up, stop sending drugs to the United States.
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But does it matter if it's in the United States?
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Well, these are all in international waters.
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Would you do a strike in the United States? Well, that's a different matter.
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Now you're talking about a law enforcement matter. In this particular case, there are people traveling on international waters headed towards the United States with hostilities in mind, which includes flooding our country with dangerous, deadly drugs. And they're going to be stopped. And that's what's happening. And in the case last week, you saw there was a submarine. It was a submarine. It was a submersible. That's a drug boat all the way through. We know what these boats are. The president just said it. We tracked them from the very beginning. We know who's on them, who they are, where they're coming from, what they have on them. And, you know, if you're running drug boats, you're in you're in grave danger.
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I mean, are we? Yeah. Again, I offer this to you like, am I supposed to be upset over this? I don't I don't like cartels. I don't like I think we've we've gone too easy on all this stuff personally. I don't like to spin that. Oh, my gosh, there could be Americans on these drug boats. No, I don't think so. Really, I don't think that's... There hasn't been. And also stop running drugs. This is asymmetrical warfare, and people have got to stop. The people who are trying to tell you to prosecute this stuff... The olden ways, whatever those ways are, I don't even know what that would be. I mean, the olden ways is TCB, right? But you're basically arguing with us and telling us, well, you know, everyone has to put on brightly colored coats and go stand in a field in a line and whoever shoots the most wins. That's not what we're doing. No sirs, no ma'ams. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. The chat's at Rumble. You can watch us do the radio program over at Channel 347, DirecTV. And don't forget Substack, Chapter and Verse. Lots of good stuff up there. You guys had a lot to read last night that I sent you for the newsletter for this morning. And I'm totally fine with continuing to go after... These Venezuelan drug boats that are going in international waters, coming into the United States and then pushing fentanyl and killing and getting our citizenry addicted to opioids. That's a form of warfare, just like the algorithmic. manipulation of platforms like TikTok by China, that's that's also that's asymmetrical warfare. All of this is it's just it's trying to it's soft, asymmetrical warfare, period. That's exactly what it is. People have got to start realizing this just in the same way that Islamism, this is a religious war that Republicans and Democrats in the United States have always looked at as a political issue to be solved. You've got to start looking at things realistically. We're not going to get anywhere by coddling cartels in Venezuela. I mean, there's that's all there is to it. All there is to it. So I don't this is not like Barack Obama droning actual Americans overseas, which he did. People who were American citizens, the dudes on the boats are not American citizens. They are known, confirmed cartel members, right? Look, if I can get cameras around my property that can zoom into your car at midnight when you just so much as pass my property and you can't even see where, you know, me and I can zoom in and look at the brand of cigarette that you are smoking in your vehicle at midnight just by going past my property. You damn sure that we have the capability of actually looking at these individuals in these boats and confirming what we have already triple confirmed that they are. Not Americans. I don't even know why that's even up for debate. Because can you imagine, just look at it like this, if Trump had blown up a boat and there were Americans on it, oh my gosh, that's all you would hear from Democrats. They didn't peach him again. Holy crap, they didn't peach him again. They would. And you know what, Cain, you know that's right. Yeah.
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Even though they excused it when Obama did it with drones.
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By the way, I'm not joking about the cameras. I literally can't zoom into your car. I can tell you exactly what's on your car display. If you're holding a Zen, I can tell everything. When Cain vapes.
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You weren't supposed to... You see that? Good God.
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I'm like Santa, but I don't give presents.
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You're like Big Sister.
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I just offer beatings. No, I'm kidding. So... Worst Santa ever. Oh, man. All right. So the what else? I mean, I wake up every morning and this is what I think. Like, what else am I supposed to get mad at today? The left is like, we should be mad because ICE is arresting illegal aliens who continue to commit crimes. Am I supposed to be mad over that? I mean, I can't believe I'm saying these words again. We're saying these way too much. Hold up. Hold up. Where's this audio soundbite? Audio, this is cut 8-1. I mean, he's not wrong here. Listen.
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I mean, it's heartbreaking. I mean, as a father with three children, if someone had done that to one of my children, it's just how devastating. I mean, this is what I'm saying. I will never understand why it's controversial to round up and deport all of the criminals here in our nation right now. And I'm proud to just agree that we need to secure our border. I don't know why these other kinds of things. And if they want to run me out of the party for these kind of views, I mean, that's really there. It's up to them. But I'm going to continue. I know.
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He's not wrong. Not wrong. What what is that? What is the objection?
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He's country over party.
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They're trying to go at him. They're trying to get a primary challenger. To get him out of office. Do you think... Okay. Because I had somebody who asked me this. They were asking me if they think... If I think that Fetterman would ever flip and become a Republican. I think he would become an independent, but I don't think he would become a Republican. Because on tax issues, on fiscal issues, he's still pretty Democrat. This is what's weird about the shift in... I don't even think it's accurate for me to describe it that way. Shift in ideologies. So this is what's weird about the reset of the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party. You would have progressive liberals. Liberal used to not be a bad word. Liberal was how you would describe Tocqueville. Only morons would use the word liberal to describe someone who really wanted to actually preserve the Constitution and individual rights. It wasn't until progressives hijacked it because they're. It wasn't until they hijacked it and then tried to use it. And then Reagan's like, oh, you want to play that game? I'm going to poison the word. And so during the 80s, it got poisoned and nobody wanted. And then liberals decided to really become progressives. That's why that shift started. But the thing is that. I mean, even when you play and I could sit here and drown you in audio for the next like two and a half hours. If you play these soundbites from Hillary Clinton, from Joe Biden, even. I mean, if you listen to some of the stuff old dead Teddy Kennedy used to say, I mean, good night and played it today. You would like they would they would be tarred and feathered because they sound almost like more conservative than moderate Republicans. There used to not be that much daylight. It used to really be about, in the beginning, federal power and the fiscal policy. The social stuff didn't start creeping in until like the 60s. It wasn't about social engineering. It was about how much, and that's really ultimately one of the big things that separated the founders. is how much power should be centralized at the federal level? How much power should be relegated to the states? And then arguing over the incorporation of natural rights, which is a whole other issue. So this, my point is that there used to not be that much daylight. It was all fiscal and then the centralized power, how much at the federal level. And then things shifted. We've gone from, you know, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. And Democrats actually be in favor of tax cuts, which is Kennedy's policy to we can't define women and we should be able to tax 60 percent of take 60 percent of your income. Oh, also, we should be able to shut down the government and determine when you can and cannot go to work and how you educate your kids. And we should be able to force people to stay in their homes and force people that I've Force women to change in bathrooms with men. Force girls to play on men's athletic teams. And also, there should be no wealthy people except for us. That's their policy now. And what's weird is all of these people who have not changed their... People like Fetterman, who are still... They think they're still being Democrats. And in a way, they're more honestly being Democrat than most self-identified Democrats are. they've stayed in the middle. They've stayed where they are and everyone else just slid off into the gutter. Join us down here. We all float down here. So that's, that's, it's weird. So I don't think that he would ever be a Republican long way around answering that question, but I do think he would be an independent whether or not he would actually, he would be an independent who would probably have to caucus with Democrats because they got to pick somebody to caucus with. It's just a weird, weird thing. Um, It's and he gets it. I don't think that he's I don't think that other people do necessarily. This is cut tin. This is state rep Jolanda Jones. Oh, this is a, you know, talking about cooling down the rhetoric. She's a Texas Democrat. And well, listen to this. This is what she had to say.
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No, it absolutely doesn't work out from the hood. OK, so when a bully comes, like if there are no rules, you literally have to figure it out. So Donald Trump has changed things and people trying to do what's always been done is not going to work. And I think that's why Democrats are losing black people. That's why they're losing poor people, because poor people, all they want is for us to fight. So if you hit me in my face, I'm not going to punch you back in your face. I'm going to go across your neck because we can go back and forth fighting each other's faces. You've got to hit hard enough where they won't come back. And so, yeah, for the same way I went to New York and spoke with Governor Kathy Hochul and said, if they're going to try to wipe us out in Texas, we need to wipe out every Republican in New York.
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I just don't take the badass cosplay from people who are so sensitive. that they react emotionally like this. She's an emotional hot mess. And when you're over emotional, that's weakness. You're weak because your brain is too small. You're allowing your emotions to run wild. rough shot over everything that you do and dictate your next move. That makes you predictable. It makes you easy to manipulate. So it's really hard to sit here and take the badass cosplay from someone who gets so emotional like that, that they can't figure out any other way to disagree other than violence. And making, oh, I'm going to say stuff about next because I know that that's going to inflame the right. I just feel sorry for weak ass women like this who try to act so hard, but they're so overly emotional and sensitive. That is a leftist hallmark. Leftists are ruled by emotions. Leftists are easily triggered and easily manipulated and they're so predictable. It's one of the reasons why they always devolve to violence. Because they're not smart enough to actually make a substantive argument. She's upset over redistricting, but yet she can't explain why. So she's going to sit here and run her mouth and talk about cutting people's necks and all this other stuff. Well, that's great. While you're in your emotional hot mess moment, do you think that you can pause it and maybe give us, I don't know, some actual, an actual proposal if you disagree so much with the redistricting, which is long overdue in this state? No, she can't. That's pathetic. I mean, it's idiocracy personified what you just saw in that clip. We have a lot more on the way. We've got days of these United States coming up and more. We have a lot more on the way. We've got headlines coming up as we move our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends at All Family Pharmacy. All Family Pharmacy has a lot of stuff that you... I mean, all of your emergency medications, your day-to-day medications, things like your ivermectin and the hydroxychloroquine and the whole nine yards. And you can make your order, get it in two to four days. But if you need it overnight... They can do that as well in a pinch if you need something. And I've told you about my experience with that before, especially with strep throat. The other thing is all their stuff is made here in the USA. So you're not getting, you know, Communist Chinese Party antibiotics or medicines. You're not getting any of that. You're getting stuff that all the precursors, everything USA made and everything that you can think of. Some of the stuff I can't even pronounce. I'm not even going to try. NAD Plus, Methylene Blue, they got that. They got Tamiflu. By the way, you need to stock up on that ahead of flu season. That's always helpful. The Membendazole, everything. Stock up today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. It's always good to be proactive. You know, you go there, you fill out what you want. A doctor looks it over. You get the prescription and everything's sent right to your door. It's accessible to everybody. Don't wait until you're knocked down by flu, virus, bacteria, or whatever. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off.
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Individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones and Terry Rozier were taken into custody today. Former current NBA players and coaches. What you don't know is that this is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation that spanned the course of years. The FBI led a coordinated takedown across 11 states to arrest over 30 individuals today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into the fraud that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage of the NBA, but we also entered and executed a system of justice against La Casa Nostra to include the Bonanno, Gambino, Genovese, and Lucchese crime families.
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So when I first saw this story, and this has to do with the Trailblazers coach, and I was reading it, and I'm like, what do you mean illegal gambling? Because that was how it was originally put, like illegal. I'm like, that could mean a number of things. He could be holding something inside his house. But apparently, it's a lot more than that. I mean, you got some of the major families involved in this. You got the Bananos, the Genovese, the Lucchese, the Gambino families are all involved in it. uh they said i'm dying they said that uh it's apparently a big oh it was a big operation that was happening here you know i don't know i yeah you know i look at this and uh they said it was a rigged poker scheme i'm reading some of the um some of the documents on it how much money you think they were dealing with
SPEAKER 20 :
I don't even think you can accurately quantify it yet. I mean, how deep did this go? He said it's been going on for 11 years or more. So over 11 years, probably a lot of damn money.
SPEAKER 28 :
Do you want to hear a very unpopular opinion? Sure. Am I supposed to be angrier over this than the legal legalized racketeering of my federal government with the taxation scheme? I just can't get mad over stuff like this when we've got the IRS.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. If you've never bet on a game or if you've never, I've never gambled.
SPEAKER 28 :
I've played slot machines one time in my life and I had one quarter and I won $5 and that was it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Steve, how long have I been telling you that I think the NBA is rigged and the NFL is rigged since I got hired at this job?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, exactly. It's been pretty obvious to some people.
SPEAKER 28 :
So wait a minute. All of the games. Explain this to me. I don't follow it like y'all do.
SPEAKER 20 :
Right. And I don't have proof that all of the games were manipulated. But when you have different point spreads and you're like, all right, this team will win by three and a half, you know, whatever. And then all of a sudden at the last seconds of the game, it's magic that they lose by less than that or slightly more than that, depending on which way the betting surges went. Yeah, it kind of, after a while, gets like, this is obvious.
SPEAKER 28 :
I mean, it's bread and circuses. Is anybody surprised? No. That bread and circuses are going to be manipulated?
SPEAKER 04 :
Like, what were you saying, Steve? Oh, yeah. I mean, player props are the problem. You should have just been on spreads and not players. Right.
SPEAKER 28 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
As a mother of black children, I know that black boys are not given the presumption of innocence and the presumption of youth. She's calling the police and saying they're trying to steal her car, and they're 11 years old. They don't know how to drive. And so for me, what was interesting was I have had to be in the position where I have gone to my local police department, because I know my son is going to be training for the Junior Olympics, running around the neighborhood in an all-white neighborhood. And I have brought him to the police and said, he belongs to me. This is my son. Do not harass him. Do not stop him.
SPEAKER 28 :
I feel like this is ridiculous. First off, and by the way, if you want to know, because she lives in Manhattan, who is the party that's been in control this entire time that's fomented these policies? Democrats. Oh, that would be Democrats. It would be the exact people that she votes for. That's Sonny Hostin on The View, who was descended from slave owners, by the way. Oh, you didn't know that? Yeah. Take that as an intersectional box to check. Yeah. Well, she literally came. She did the whole, what show was that where they looked? Yeah, she literally came from, her family owned slaves. I remember seeing that. Yeah. So she's more like the Klan than you or I, Kane. Look at that. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. Our friend Seth Dillon from Babylon Bee will be joining us at the bottom of this hour. And we got a lot of stuff to discuss. But that's the identity politics stuff that she's getting into. I got to tell you, I can't stand identity politics. We've been talking about this for a all across the United States. If you listen to the show last week, we were talking a little bit about the history of critical race theory, which came from that same, you know, Frankfurt school. Marxism came from the same spot. You have the, the competing variables of economic status, as well as, uh, And that's where intersectionality, that is where DEI, all of that came out of critical race theory, which was really promoted heavily by Marxist academics in the United States at American universities. And one of the leaders of that was Derrick Bell. I was first talking about this. In fact, I had to talk about the video of him hugging Barack Obama before Andrew Breitbart right when he had passed away on CNN. and point out to everyone that this is, look, what's coming is very bad. This is critical race theory. It's being mainstreamed, et cetera. And this is what you see with the left. When they talk about intersectionality, for instance, if you have two candidates, two candidates who are going for the same position, say that they're both black female candidates. You have a black female candidate who's married and has kids, and she's going for this very high-paying position. And you have another black female candidate who's going for the high-paying position, but she's also – maybe she's trans or alphabet something and XYZ. She has one more intersectional box than the just plain old other candidates. So that means that in DEI world, she's advanced to that position not because of merit but because of these – you know, self-created intersectional checklist variables. That's what all of that is. And it all comes from critical race theory. And that's where you get the substitute of equity for equality. And as you know, equity, in order for things to be equitable, you actually have to incorporate discrimination for equitable outcomes, whereas equality is about equal access to to opportunity, equity is the guarantee of equal result. That means you have to enforce discrimination at the opportunity level. So that's all from CRT, critical race theory. And the left has been using this to browbeat the right for forever. I mean, we've seen this. When I first got heavily involved in politics, I think it was in college and all of my family, I told everybody I never met. I didn't meet a Republican until the day I went to college. I'm not kidding. I literally grew up in a bubble of Democrats. And when I went to college and got educated and started learning more about the world and wasn't as narrow minded and didn't live in a leftist bubble, then I started actually like, you know what? I never believed in this. I was never against guns and I was never You know, pro-abortion. And I was never all of this stuff. So why the hell am I identifying as this? This is like some sort of heritage political ideology that's foisted upon me. And so I started learning about more things. And I've noticed that the DEI stuff came into play when it seemed like Democrats were losing the plot. And then all of a sudden they introduced all of these other things that their leftist street team could get behind. And that's when you started seeing, well, someone's more special than you because of these race based things, which actually is racism. being used, but the left is too dumb to realize it. So long story short, we've been seeing it in politics. We saw it, you know, this is how crazy it gets. Back in 2016, if you remember, when Hillary Clinton was running against Donald Trump, people were literally saying that Trump voters were racist because they didn't vote for the old white woman. I mean, you guys remember this. That's how crazy the CRT stuff got. It's wild. And now here we are, you know, 2025 and the left is still clinging to it. They're still clinging to it, especially when you talk about redistricting for voting, redistricting for voting in Texas, for instance. This redistricting is something that happens, you know, every I mean, they look at this stuff every three years anyway, and they base things off the census. And we're simply going by the numbers and by like the actual counties and et cetera, et cetera. And they're trying to say that all of that is racist. It's D.I.C.R.T. That's all this is. My fear is that the right is going to start. I don't want the right to start incorporating this stuff. And I've had I'm going to put it like this. I'm not old school. I'm just not over emotional. I don't like this idea on the right that you've got to become like the left in order to beat the left. That's very anti-Sun Tzu. That means that you're surrendering who you are And you become the thing that you want to be. That is the ultimate win. That's why when I am engaging with people, unless they're super nasty, what is the point of engaging with them if it's not to persuade them to join you in your side of reason and logic? That's one less person you have to fight. And it's also one person that you have, another person to fight against the things that you're standing against. And so... This idea that you have to become like the left to beat the left, that's something a leftist would say. That's like Satan going, well, you got to become satanic to beat me. Well, I expect that from the devil. I mean, Jesus even said you can't be lukewarm, did he not? I mean, if we're going to adhere to the gospels and say Christ is king and all this stuff, you know, just FYI. So I say this because, you know, I've had disagreements with some folks before over this sort of thing. And disagreements are good. I reject this theory that you cannot have civilized debate on the right or the left. Well, the left are incapable. I don't want to be like the left and not be able to have civilized debate and even disagree with some people that I might disagree. vote with on 90 or 99% of the things, right? Or even agree with on most things. A healthy, intelligent, emotionally stable, mature movement should be able to tolerate and handle civilized dissent. That is a hallmark of this republic. Our founders did it. I mean, sure, you can get heated and all of that other stuff. But what I can't stand is when I see disagreement maliciously misrepresented as an attack for loss of being able to properly and unemotionally refute it. I can't stand that. I just feel like people are too damn sensitive and too emotionally triggered for civilized debate if they think every dissent is an attack. An attack is having a terrorist throw a rocket at you while you're trying to eat an MRE in the desert. Right? An attack is what happened at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul. An attack is Fallujah. An attack is 9-11. Right? An attack is what we saw at Pearl Harbor. That is an attack. Someone civilly disagreeing with you is not an attack. And if you think otherwise, you are a female copulatory organ. You're too sensitive, too hyper emotional for reasoned debate. And you know who else shares that hallmark? The left. The left does that. The left can't tolerate dissent. The left purports that every single disagreement is an attack. The left thinks that if you disagree with a woman, it's because you're sexist. The left says that if you disagree with a black person, it's because you're racist. And I see elements of the right trying to incorporate that as well when they're way smarter and way better than to devolve to that level. I had a bit of a disagreement on social media this morning. It's not enough to make anything out. I don't live my life online and arguing with randos all damn day. You know, I'd rather hang out with you guys and then, you know, do what I got to do. I'm getting ready for this debate coming up in November. I got a lot of stuff going on, you know, family, all that. So I don't see everybody. I just think if you're spending all your day online arguing with everybody, then stop. But people on our side, especially some people who are trying to be thought leaders and shepherds, need to get a grip. Calm down. I appreciate the dudes and the ladies who don't do that. I feel like it's becoming rarer and rarer when I come across them. I almost think we should have medals minted to hand them at this point because it's becoming so rare. But I don't think, again, that you adopt the attitude and behavior of the left in order to beat the left. And I just think that if the conservative movement is so weak that it can't handle dissent, we deserve to be destroyed as the sensitive, easy, manipulated losers that we are. I just feel like that's the way it is. Because that's what that behavior makes us. It's crazy. And I think some of this came from, I don't know, like, what do you think some of this came from, Cain? Like, the Nazi stuff, what did it come from?
SPEAKER 20 :
What, you mean the division tactics? Yeah.
SPEAKER 28 :
I feel like some people on the right are being baited into this psyop division completely, and they don't see it.
SPEAKER 20 :
You pointed to it earlier. In all of our past discussions about how crazy we believe the left is, it's because their emotions are not in check. And because of that, they're easily manipulated. And it doesn't matter if they're manipulated by lies or the truth. It does not matter. It's been lies. But they will react in the same way. So all it does is create division. It's easy to fool someone. The hard thing is to convince them they've been fooled.
SPEAKER 28 :
I had someone that I know of, but I don't know them personally, and they were saying that on social media that – You know, they they feel like they got to adopt some of the left's tactics. And that's what it is. Just be honest about it. Because after Charlie Kirk was shot and they had to deal with threats and I'll tell you, we you know, Charlie was also a friend and we all watched him nationwide. I mean, a lot of people felt also like he was a friend and they saw him get shot in the throat. I have had to move. I've had to move because I had somebody, I had a leftist that hated me fly halfway across the country and try to bust in the windows of my living room. I had people driving around my house, taking photos and posting it online and threatening me. My gosh, we had people that tried to hack all my social accounts, my email. We had to have 24-7 security. I had to have security at my kid's school. I watched leftists shoot cops in front of a building downtown at a BLM rally the night I was supposed to go down there for a Fox hit. I watched parts of my hometown burn. The point is this. Everybody has seen some stuff. Never allow your opposition to manipulate you into becoming like them. I've not changed who I am or what I believe in the hard stuff. I mean, things like, oh, well, is this policy? Is this energy policy? Do you change your mind on that? I mean, those are variables and things can shift and that's, you know, whatever. But you can't give up, you can't allow your soul to be molded by the people you're fighting against. And you should be able to gently correct someone on your side with that fact without them devolving into a hyperbolic emotional mess. And if that is unavoidable for their character, then maybe they're not the right kind of warrior for this job. And I don't give a rat's ass if that hurts anybody's feelings, because at this point, I like you all, but I don't care about making friends and I don't care about being invited to the parties and I don't care about being on the stage and making the speech. I don't care. I got a lot of other stuff we got going on. But I do care about the health of the movement and I care about the soul of the nation. And I do care about a lot of the people that are trying to do really good things in this. So when someone says, do not allow yourself to be manipulated, the correct and strong response isn't to devolve into the behavior of an over-emotional leftist woman. It's to maybe say, okay, this person isn't coming from an origin of malice. Maybe there's something to this. And again, if you can't, then maybe this debate isn't for you. It's the folks over at WebRoot. You want to make sure that you're surfing. Whenever you're online doing anything, even checking mail anymore, you want to make sure that you're protected because it's so sophisticated. To rob you blind, it really actually is not as difficult as you think. And they're getting better and better at it, these criminal networks, these scammers. So WebRoot, they have WebRoot Total Protection. This is a safer way to live digitally. And you really need to think about this because once your stuff gets out there, you're SOL. I mean, unless you're like proactively trying to prevent it, once it's out there on the dark web, it's really hard to close that Pandora's box. This is where WebRoot Total Protection is effective because they have an all-in-one plan that you can get for individuals or your entire family. Think about your parents. You know your parents open every email that's sent. regardless of whether or not the attachment's safe. God love them. But there's a built-in firewall. They have network monitoring. They have real-time antivirus, a program that can block emerging threats like all the malware, ransomware, phishing, all of that stuff. But they also have a million dollars in expense reimbursement for identity theft and advanced dark web monitoring as well, plus financial alerts included. You can protect a number of devices. You can secure VPN encryption so no one's looking over your shoulder at whatever you're doing online. And you get 24-7 U.S.-based customer support for fast identity restoration. Nobody else covers that much. Not even close. So get 60% off of WebRoot Total Protection at WebRoot.com slash Dana. The only way to get it, 60%, is through WebRoot.com slash Dana. Live a better, safer digital life with WebRoot.
SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 28 :
Guess what? An European media study says that A.I. is not a reliable source of news today. And this is I do not use A.I. and I I am not inclined to. You still have to double and triple check everything. I've seen other people who do. And I always can tell when someone sends me something that's like A.I., because there's always something off about it. It doesn't measure on fact. It crawls for what pops up in terms of search results. And by the way, who still controls all of that? The left. There you go. Let's see. Smart beds flipped out during the Amazon outage, the web services outage. I didn't know that. Like the smart beds freaked out even? Dude, we are all way too connected if your beds freak out. We got a lot more on the way, but we also have CEO of the Babylon Bee joining us next. Stick with us. I think it's smart to diversify your what you have as defensive tools. And I've told you guys a million times I carry all the time. I have zero issue with using lethal force to protect myself or a loved one. But I also realize that there are certain situations that we all by nature of being adults and having to do what we got to do in life, find ourselves in where we are disarmed by municipal or private property restrictions. And so in that instance, you definitely still need something that you can use to defend yourself. And this is where the burner gun comes in. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. Now, maybe you think I'm good, I'm carrying a stun gun, but that's like one or two shots. This thing, the CL, and that's the one I would suggest to you, stands for compact launcher. The Berna CL has a 15-round shot capacity per cartridge. There's no recoil, none. Easy target acquisition. So if you want to be able to protect yourself but you're in a place where you're disarmed really from doing so, this is where the Berna gun comes in because it doesn't care about gun-free zone signs. It doesn't answer them. Not a gun, right? It doesn't answer to them. There's no background check. There's no fees. There's no nothing. They can send it right to your door. This is a great idea for college students who are under the age of 21 but still have to be on their own to go to school. You can find it, B-Y-R-N-A, Burna.com slash Dana. It's the CL, the compact launcher. Very small. It's like the size of a phone. B-Y-R-N-A, Burna.com slash Dana. Ready when you are.
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SPEAKER 28 :
Little Tori Amos cornflake girl, which I thought was very apropos for the intro to this segment. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. You can listen coast to coast, channel 347, DirecTV is where you can watch us do the radio program. Also, the chat's at Rumble. We got good stuff at Facebook and X. Let me just throw this out, and then we're going to go right to our guest. I think that there is a massive psyop that is being conducted on the right. I think that the thirsty clout chasers and I think that the the weaker members, the newer members of the right who didn't check their progressive ideologies at the door of the big tent when they joined are all susceptible to it. And as a result, we have seen a division erupt. Now, I tend to think that the division may be not it's not as bad yet as it can be, as we're seeing on the left. But it will be if it goes unchecked. And this is something that this movement has seen before. During the Reagan years, this movement has seen this sort of ideological division. And it's something that, you know, I saw play out this morning. And I've seen it play out with a number of my friends. And it's getting a little crazy. And we're going to kind of dive into that and some other things with my friend and guest. As you know him, CEO of Babylon Bee, Seth Dillon, at Seth Dillon on X. And he just... had to deal with a crazy, really crazy security story where a guy was making death threats against him and was threatening to kill him and his family. Guy lived in Florida. They found out who he is. And then the AG of Florida announced that they they were notified of the threats and they got an arrest warrant and they charged this guy, Nicholas Ray of Spring, Texas, with extortion, written threats to kill and unlawful use of a two way communication device. And he was apparently motivated by this divide on the right. Seth joins us now via video. It's good to see you, my friend, and I'm glad you're safe.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good to see you, too. And so am I. But yeah, thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 28 :
What is happening? I know. I don't even know where to start. I was like thinking about how we were going to even begin this discussion. And it's honestly not something that I ever thought that we would have to talk about on the right. Maybe that was me being naive. But I you know, it's just it's kind of shocking. Tell us what's happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
well in this particular case uh... this i mean this really goes back to charlie's murder that's where a lot of this started i mean there's uh... some of it goes back before that obviously but uh... where i get drawn into this is uh... uh... the origin of that is with charlie's murder you know he was uh... he was with me and a bunch of other people uh... in the hamptons back in august this about a month before he was killed uh... and a lot of conspiracies floating around about You know, where Charlie was in his position on Israel and how much pressure was being applied to him by the donors and what happened there in the Hamptons and then some conspiracies, you know, about what happened there were circulating. You know, Candace Owens, of course, being at the forefront of propagating those and painting me as someone who was, you know, a malicious and bad actor. who was applying pressure to Charlie, trying to blackmail him. I was supposedly involved in some meeting involving him and Bill Ackman, and Bibi Netanyahu was on the phone offering him $150 million to get back on board with his support of Israel, and he turned that down, and then guess what? He winds up dead. So there's like this crazy conspiracy that I was caught up into, and a lot of people bought it, a lot of people believed it, everybody is eager to believe that Israel and the Jews are behind everything, right? Well, not everybody, but the people who are susceptible to this stuff, who are having this shoved down their throats all of the time. they buy into it and so there was a lot of negative sentiment and that's putting it mildly of course about me uh... because of this you know i was i was someone who's actually personally friends with charlie i was at this event at his invitation it wasn't anything like it was characterized But that's where the negative attention came from. And so for several weeks, there was just, what happened in the Hamptons, Seth? Why did you blackmail your friend, Seth? What kind of friend are you, Seth? And so I was getting a lot of this stuff. And then it started to, of course, we started to see some more aggressive things coming out with... in this particular case, Nicholas Ray, actually saying that he wanted to kill me because of my involvement in Charlie's death. And so these are false defamatory statements that were made for the malicious purpose of doing harm to my reputation and putting a target on my back. And people got the message, obviously. So that's how we ended up here. But I'm very grateful. Let me just say before I throw it back to you, very grateful for the prompt and serious response that Florida law enforcement had. The AG took it very seriously. His office took it very seriously. And of course, the prosecutor's office, you know, and. seeking that arrest warrant as soon as possible, getting the subpoenas they needed before they could do that. So I'm grateful to them for having our backs. And it wasn't just me, by the way. I don't want to just make it sound like he was targeting me individually. It was several other people were involved in this. And so nasty stuff, very nasty stuff.
SPEAKER 28 :
It is. And you're right. James Uthmeyer, his AG of Florida, did a did a swift and great job at mitigating this and getting this guy because I mean, what the guy was doing. I mean, this is what we talk about when I think a lot of this, you know, is maybe bot driven, but a lot of it's not. And, you know, like what we talk about with the left, you know, there's only so many times that people can call Trump a Nazi and a fascist and all this stuff before somebody out there who's super susceptible to this picks up on it and does something wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's one thing to talk about somebody accurately, like what they've actually said and done, and report truthfully on what they've actually said and done. It's quite another thing to caricature them, to put words in their mouth that they didn't say, to portray them as being Hitler or a Nazi or something when they couldn't be further than the truth for someone like Trump and his supporters, the MAGA coalition. Those types of smears do have very negative consequences. Now, if someone's not actually calling for violence, then they're not responsible for whatever violence somebody does. But they are responsible for planting the seeds where there's fertile ground for that kind of radical reaction. And so I don't know why you would do that. Why would you want to do that unless you're just an evil and malicious person? But, you know, people keep asking me how I'm doing and I'm like, well, you know, I lost my friend and then I was accused of playing a role in his murder. And now a lot of my other friends are covering for the people who are responsible for those accusations. So I don't really know how how to explain how I'm doing right now. And this is a very unusual situation in my life. I've never experienced anything like this before. I don't wish it on anybody.
SPEAKER 28 :
What's weird to me, and we're talking with Seth Dillon, CEO of the Babylon Bee, about all this, is that I understand if people want to have a disagreement with the Israeli government. But I feel like a lot of the people who are saying that but doing something different couldn't even tell you how their parliament is structured. They can't tell you the difference between Herzog and Netanyahu. They have no idea about politics. You know, the lay of the land, so to speak, over there. And it feels like a veneer for what it really is, which is just anti-Semitism. And it's a bunch of people, not a bunch, but some people on the right who are playing into the identity politics of the left. And that's a leftist thing. Do you think that? is some of this is maybe the consequence of, you know, it's great to have a coalition or a big tent, but there are certain things that are just persona non grata in a coalition and using identity politics like the left ought to be one of them is, is some of this a failure to enforce that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, certainly. Um, I just wrote about this in the, in the free press, by the way, talking about the foolishness of the no enemies to the right principle. I think it's just, it's, it's, um, it's not just foolish uh... it's immoral uh... you know to not draw lines to not be willing to say you know the there are certain people that you won't walk arms with uh... a lot of these things you these are things that were the right there was a lot more moral clarity on the right uh... several years ago where The alt-right or this white supremacist kind of like equal but opposite reaction to the leftist Antifa thugs. Everybody kind of saw that as being this really fringe, really nasty thing that we didn't want any part of. And we distinguished between ourselves and them. We're like, they keep calling Trump and his supporters Nazis and Hitler and whatever. Like, we're not like that. There may be people like that on the fringe far right, but we're not like them. We would distinguish. Now there are calls to join with them and to bring them into the movement and make them part of the movement. And no one so far has explained to me, first of all, how that's morally justified. But also, how is it politically expedient? How does it help us? How could it do anything but hurt us to bring people who are collectivist? Yeah, they engage in these race-based grievance things. They're supremacists. They're just filled with bigotry and hatred. They have authoritarian impulses. They're collectivists. You add all these things up and it's like, how could we possibly benefit from having them in the conservative movement? That doesn't make any sense. This is a real reckoning for conservatives to decide what is our identity? What is a conservative? That's the next question that we need to be asking. We had that question about what is a woman. Now we need to have it about what is a conservative.
SPEAKER 28 :
I think that's a good point. And what happened to the left when they decided to mainstream the radicals, the street team that they used as an agitated variable to get out the vote?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, that's a great cautionary tale, right? Because it wasn't just that they tolerated their extremists. I think, you know, including them in their broad coalition was a mistake. But they didn't just include them. They gave them the reins. And so you ended up with a situation where, of course, yes, they did accrue a lot of cultural and institutional power with very radical ideas that they were trying to enforce on all of us from the top down. But they pushed too far. Of course, they went so radical that reasonable people We started to see the erosion of parental rights. We started to see kids being exposed not just to inappropriate materials in their schools, but also this harmful gender ideology that was leading them down a path of destruction and despair and cutting off healthy body parts. It went so crazy, so far beyond the realm of what's even possible to satirize, that there was natural... uh... backlash to that reasonable people had only so much tolerance for that kind of absurdity uh... and i think the only have so much tolerance for the kind of uh... bigotry in authoritarianism that's that's creeping into the into the right wing and so uh... i think it's it's only prudent from a political standpoint if you're just looking at it pragmatically it's prudent to draw those lines but it's also the right thing to do let's not lose sight of that it's the right thing to do to say look this is wrong you know glorifying hitler isn't good And we shouldn't be welcoming those people. We should be condemning them. And no one should have to ask us to. We should be willingly doing that.
SPEAKER 28 :
What do you say to people who argue, well, you know, conservatism has never been implemented? That's like the coordinated response from some of these people. And my thought is that one of the reasons that I'll caucus with Republicans, but I don't consider myself a party member is because there are two left for me. I don't think conservative principles have ever been implemented. Fully Christian conservative principles have never been implemented at the federal level by the GOP. And that's kind of my take on it. What is your thought on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I also – I wasn't sure where you were going with that, but I also hear a lot, well, conservatism – are you trying to say that conservatism has failed? That's the objection? Yeah, that's what their argument is.
SPEAKER 28 :
I'm like, you have to implement it or try to before you can say it's failed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yes, you're not wrong. I agree with you there, but it also – It's not the case that right now conservatives are losing. I wouldn't concede that. I do think that conservatives did fail to conserve some things they should have conserved. I think there were a lot of people who were too squishy, a lot of people who were too willing to compromise, that didn't stand their ground on some of these issues. And so we lost a lot of ground because we didn't fight as aggressively as we should have on some of those issues. That's certainly a problem. But I think that, like I was saying, the backlash that was generated by the left's overreach has resulted in some serious and legitimate wins for the right, for conservatism. And, you know, a return of sanity, a return of valuing the truth, reality, staying firmly planted in reality and what's good, objectively good and true. we've seen a lot of victories along those lines I was just saying the other day you know there's a there's a joke I used to tell about how we're so disadvantaged in this fight it's like being a woman who's just jumped in the pool with Leah Thomas you know he's the tall one with the testicles and so it is like a joke I used to tell about how disadvantaged we are well that's no that joke is old now because Leah Thomas has had those title strip those records taken away like we've we're solving these problems were pushing back on these things and so conservatives I think are in advance And the far left, progressive left, is in retreat in the culture and in the courts. And so we are winning a lot right now. And it's just bizarre to me to be having conversations about how the extreme lengths we're going to need to go to in order to win. I'll put win in scare quotes because I think we're already winning. Why would we need to abandon the Constitution, go post-constitutional, and adopt all of these radical ideas to win?
SPEAKER 28 :
politics because we've been without it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And how is that winning when you become like the left? How are you defeating the left?
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah. So my last question for you, and this is kind of a hard one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Explain it to me like I'm Kamala Harris.
SPEAKER 28 :
Or Hunter Biden, although he might understand it better. So I don't know how this shakes out because I know that when everything happened during like the Reagan years, I think maybe I was I don't think I was alive then. Or if I was, I was maybe like one years old. I don't have that lived memory of it. I just know what I read that, you know, that that sort of aspect of the right was sort of drummed out. I don't know how that looks currently. I don't know how this dissonance is handled and where we go from here, how you can even convince people who are adopting beliefs like this, how they're persuadable to even come away from that. Your thought.
SPEAKER 07 :
You mean like the people that have bought into some of this stuff?
SPEAKER 28 :
And are promoting it and perpetuating it and are like quote unquote influencers or who freak out when you mildly correct them on social media.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, the influencer, there's two problems. There's the young people who are so susceptible to it. And there's the people who are pushing it, the young people who are super receptive to it. And then the cowards in the movement who are, you know, trying not to do anything about it and trying not to confront it head on like they should, like they would have several years ago. You know, there's this popular idea right now that what's really needed more than anything is unity. We can't have this infighting. It's a problem. And I think it's suicidal, ultimately. It's going to end up destroying us. Yeah, it's only going to help the left. I don't think that a lot of these people actually endorse the ideas, the radical ideas, but they for some reason have decided that it's necessary for us to have unity with the people that have these ideas. And again, like I said, I haven't heard a good argument for why that would be. There's certainly no good moral argument for it, but I haven't even heard a good political argument for it.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah. You've taken a beating, and I appreciate you with your consistency. And you've been a good ally and a good friend. And so we're praying for your safety, and I'm glad that you guys are safe. And you know the offer still stands. If you want to come and get John Wicked out, come on over to Dallas.
SPEAKER 07 :
I want to do that. We'll have to work that out. We'll find a spot on the schedule that works to do that. That's right.
SPEAKER 28 :
We will. Seth Dillon, CEO of Babylon Bee. You can find him on X. God bless you, my friend. Good to talk with you.
SPEAKER 07 :
God bless you, too. Thank you.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Molly's point, I mean, this is something that a lot of Democrats are grappling with right now. They've nominated women two of the last three elections for presidency, lost both. There are some who say, well, we can't do that again. The stakes are too high. But, of course, that does fall into the same misogynistic trap.
SPEAKER 28 :
Other countries have no problem electing women. Okay, that was this morning on Morning Joe. Yes, the Virginia gubernatorial Democrat candidate, Abigail Spanberger. And they're saying that the reason that she's struggling is because it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that she wants to tax you all to death or she's anti-Second Amendment or she has horrible policy ideas. It's because you don't like her because she's a girl. What's Winsome's... I am so done with us.
SPEAKER 20 :
What's Winsome's Earl Sears?
SPEAKER 28 :
What? Cain, now, I know you're not a biologist. No.
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 28 :
But can you please, sir, confirm the sex of the Republican nominee for governor that is running against Democrat Abigail Spanberger?
SPEAKER 20 :
To the best of my knowledge, Winsome Earl Sears is a woman.
SPEAKER 28 :
Oh! By the way, let's play the intersectional game because the left loves this. So let's look. You guys know how this works. You tally up. Every one of these little things has nothing to do with merit, right? So Abigail Spanberger is a woman, okay? My left. This is my right. So you guys are looking at house right. Abigail Spanberger is a woman. So according to the left, that's one check. But so is Winston Merle Sears. Yeah. Abigail Spanberger is a white woman. Oh, boy. Winsome Earl Sears is a black woman. Abigail Spanberger is a Virginian. And Winsome Earl Sears is an immigrant. Oh, my gosh. Three to one in intersectionality. So by the left's own measure, Winsome Earl Sears wins. But see, this is their inconsistency. They're like, well, it doesn't count. Why? Because she's a Republican. So why? They just take all those three away and then that's it. That's how they do this. That's their math. That's the progressive math with all of this.
SPEAKER 20 :
So how many points of intersectionality get deleted because you're a Republican? Is it all the points? Does it negate all the points you get being Republican?
SPEAKER 28 :
Apparently, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
Because what if, like, man, can you imagine if Winsome Earl Sears were maybe mixed race and had a couple different races she could lean on?
SPEAKER 28 :
You could add maybe, yeah, like another one on. Or what if she was like trans?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 28 :
But then it doesn't matter because she's a Republican. So the left is like, nope, new rule. It's like, what am I thinking of? What's the card game?
SPEAKER 20 :
There's lots of them.
SPEAKER 28 :
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The card game where Uno. It's like playing Uno. It's like playing spicy Uno. Right? No, no, no. New rule. Everybody's got to be silent when somebody drops a six. No, no, no. New rule. It's like that's what they're doing. New rule. It doesn't matter if they're a Republican. So you have Mika, who is very soft skinned. Dare I talk about them because one time I talked about them on air and somehow they lost their minds and spent 15 minutes actually not disagreeing with me but actually attacking me on their program. I mean, you're on television every morning. People are going to disagree with you. But she says, well, it's, you know, because they're sexist. Other countries have no problem electing women. Well, Japan just elected its first prime minister who just happened to be a woman. But they elected her because she's qualified, not because she's a woman. The same reason that Margaret Thatcher ascended to become prime minister of Britain. It's because she was qualified. She just happened to be a woman, not because she was a woman. Democrats are arguing that, well, you have to vote for someone because they're a woman, but only if they're Democrat. That's it. That's how this works with them. What a disservice. And you know, it should be on merit. Do you realize the disservice that you do to women by demanding that you elevate someone just because they're a woman and not because they're merited to be elevated? You're actually pushing out women who are working on like meritocracy and who may one day ascend and may one day be worth the vote. But they're going to be constantly pummeled down and underestimated because of the idiotic. No, you have to do this because they're a woman rule that the left practices. No, people are struggling with her because she's a horrible candidate. She's a problematic, horrible candidate with horrible ideas, ideas that if you actually took them to their full conclusion would be disastrous for the state of Virginia. The Commonwealth, it would be disastrous. That's the whole thing. I get so tired of this. It is so unbelievably sexist to say that people are against her because she's a sexist. That's a sexist. That's sexism. Sorry, but women get a lot of handouts in politics. You said people can act like it's an old boys club all they want to. But if you don't know how to roll with it and manage it, then maybe it's intimidating. But women get a lot of especially. I mean, look at Kamala Harris. She was coronated for crying out loud. She's been appointed to everything. She didn't campaign. She can't campaign. I mean, it's a given. Hillary Clinton tried this stuff, too. She thought she could be coronated. And then when Democrats were like, yeah, but we don't like you. You're kind of bitchy. Then she had to actually work for it. She was mad and said, I'm not going to do this. That's why she never went up to Michigan. She never went over to anywhere. She was mad that she actually had to work for it. She wanted to be a political welfare queen. That's the truth of the matter. How sad is that? It gets really, I just get so frustrated with this, as I'm sure you do as well. Let's play a cut 11, please. So in Los Angeles, speaking of Kamala Harris, California and LA, there was this teacher who came out, you know, they had their no kings thing, right? Cain's laughing so hard. They had their No Kings rally, and this Los Angeles high school teacher, they call him an anti-ICE spokesman. I'm just reading the thing that they sent out about it. He's a high school history teacher. Probably not very good. He serves as a spokesperson for a local anti-ICE activist group, but they're not organized. How dare you say they're organized? But here's our spokesperson.
SPEAKER 21 :
Don't forget where you're standing. This is South Central Los Angeles. They are not, they are not the only ones with guns in this city. They're not the only ones. And don't forget that. And I don't say that because we're calling for violence. I'm saying that because the people have every right to defend themselves against masked, unidentified gunmen.
SPEAKER 28 :
So the community doesn't have the right to defend their sovereign territory against unknown people that are coming in from the southern border. Do you realize how unbelievably ironic that is? And don't sit here and tell me that, oh, well, you've got guns, but it's not a call to violence. Shut up. That's the intimation. And you know it is. Don't be an intellectual coward. Have the balls to see your statement all the way through, you coward. I can't stand when people do that. Don't bring it up then. Because otherwise, that's what you're intimating. That's exactly it. By the way, you can say that you have guns all you want to, but hell knows y'all can't shoot. So, you know, y'all don't train. So what good is it? So insane. This is so asinine. We could do without all of this stupidity. Here's the problem. Come in legally. And if you don't like the way that our immigration system is structured, then ask the party that you have been enslaved to vote for for however many decades why, even when they had a super majority for the first part of Barack Obama's first term until special elections, why they didn't do anything to remedy that. Despite all of their talk in the election leading up to it, why didn't they do anything? Why? Great question, isn't it?
SPEAKER 1 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 28 :
Same people that were like, oh, no, it was Trump that put kids in cages, but they were ignoring the fact that it was actually a policy that was created under Obama-Biden because the deluge at the southern border was so great and the Flores Amendment was allowing the rent-a-kid policies to be exploited by the cartels that they had to make sure that kids were protected. And so instead of stopping the deluge, they ended up putting people in cages so they could evaluate the kids in scene. So asinine. This is South Central Los Angeles. Legally, I'm probably not in legal possession. But the irony of being like, how dare these people we don't know enforce the law? We wanted to sneak into the country and be undetected. How dare you arrest people undetected? Wait, what? Suddenly you're being met with, I mean, it's kind of specious to say it, but you're suddenly met with the same tactic and now you've got a problem? Cry harder. Follow the law, work it out. That's just the way it is. I can't imagine going. Do you realize the audacity of going to another country and being like, you conform to me? Like me going to Italy. It's time to put pineapple on your pizza. Do it now. There is such a thing as Alfredo sauce and white with cream. Do it now. Like they would be like, what? Toasted ravioli is a real thing. Do it now. They would not abide. Can you imagine? Or going to, I mean, name something. Name something. I mean, it's like, this is crazy. It's like going to Mexico and being like, you will recognize Taco Bell as real Mexican food or else. Like, who is you doing this? Going to somebody else's country and trying to order people around. Good night. Stop. Just demand that people come in legally. Legally. So they had the new man, dude. The debate, I caught some of it with the man Donnie and Cuomo. I guess Seel was just going to stay in. Sliwa. He's going to stay in. I talked to him like years ago on radio. He seemed like a nice guy, but I don't understand. Can you imagine? I just can't imagine having to choose if I was a voter between communist light and Islamist communist. That's the choice. The guy who killed old people or the guy who probably will kill people. The guy who campaigns with an unindicted 9-11 co-conspirator or the guy who kills all your grandparents. I mean, that's the choice. In New York right now, this is insane. It's... Yeah. For one, just give you a little taste of how people had to watch this. This is so bad. This is cut 14. They're talking about building affordable housing. Listen to this. And...
SPEAKER 03 :
My critiques of the politics of the past is right here on the stage. You can see in Andrew Cuomo someone who had 10 years to deliver on so much of what he's spoken about. He says that taking five years to build affordable housing is the sign of an incompetent government. By his own words, that means he must have led an incompetent government. That is what we are seeing because that is the record that is actually on offer.
SPEAKER 22 :
I understand my friend doesn't really understand government. The governor doesn't build housing in New York City. Not if it's you. No. No, legally, there are jurisdictions.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah. Affordable housing. Well, it doesn't matter how affordable you build your housing when your tax structure is so punitive that no one can afford it anyway.
SPEAKER 20 :
And he wants two more percent.
SPEAKER 28 :
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Way more. I can't even. They're going to lose so many people when he wins. And it's when New York is done. I haven't been back to Manhattan since the first week of COVID. Haven't been back. And I don't have any desire to go back. I like a lot of, I mean, there's some conservative New Yorkers I like because they have to be real tough as nails people. Conservatives that live in Manhattan, I don't even know how you live. I don't even know how you live. God love you. I love them. I exclude them from all of this. But man, I can't. Upstate is where the normies live. But I can't. It's just gotten so different. I even I saw the difference. I saw it changing even like having to go up there for work. I don't know. Man, once a beautiful city. And look how far. We have a lot more on the way. We got headlines coming up. And then I got a couple of crazier things for you as well. It's our friends over at Patriot Mobile. It's the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the nation. And you... need to switch because they make it so easy it takes minutes to do and it takes minutes to do and you can you don't have to go to the store you don't even have to go to the store you can you can stay in your home you can stay in your office whatever it is whatever is easiest they'll accommodate you they have a great us-based customer service team that will get you like all squared away uh all fitted up in minutes you got nationwide coverage that you can trust They have access to all three major U.S. networks. You don't compromise on quality for your values. You get unlimited data plans. Look, here's the big thing. You're paying less because they have plans that are tailored to everybody. But in addition to that, you're not having your money go towards the things that you vote against every time you're at the ballot box. We're in early elections here right now or early voting. Sorry. And Patriot Mobile, I know for a fact, has helped out with a lot of these, you know, very conservative voter minded issues that are on the ballot. They really work on your behalf. So your money isn't working against you. And if you get rid of your Netflix subscription because you don't like the ideals, but you haven't done it with your mobile service, you might as well go get 10 Netflix subscriptions because what you're paying for your cell phone service, the Netflix stuff is a drop in the bucket compared to that. So you need to make the switch today at Patriot Mobile. Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana and get a free month of service when you use promo code Dana. Veterans and first responders get 15% off of their bills every month. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana 972 Patriot promo code Dana.
SPEAKER 20 :
And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 28 :
Okay, I didn't get to this story yesterday and I desperately needed to because it's a wild one. For all of you horror fans, a coroner canceled a safe family Halloween party because something nasty. There was a controversy over the corpses rotting in the walls. I'm not even kidding. 24 rotting corpses that were found in the previous coroner's mortuary. Oh my gosh. So it was Pueblo County Coroner Brian Cotter They he owned a mortuary home with his brother and they were going to have a little family Halloween party. But then they discovered literally 24 decomposing bodies behind a hidden door. And they were like, oh, my gosh, we got to cancel it. We were going to have a safe family friendly, but there's some dead bodies here we got to deal with. So bye. Whoa. It's terrifying. A man dies after a burial vault fell on him. What is up with all the funeral home stuff at a Dallas funeral home? Oh, my gosh. One of those big old things. It fell on him. Dallas Fire Department had they responded to a call and the vault is, you know, the vessel that is usually concrete and it protects the casket and all that stuff. He was pinned down from the waist. And they were able to lift it using a hydraulic spreader and free him. He was immediately taken to the hospital. Obviously, serious lower injuries enough that he did not survive. That's horrible, horrible, horrible. And an Australian man was charged with stealing labubus worth more than $5,000. I can't even believe people are doing this. These look like the old manchichis.
SPEAKER 1 :
$5,000.
SPEAKER 28 :
The man is in major trouble stealing labubus. I can't even believe that that's worth that much. Stick with us. As we move our partners that will bring you the program. It's our friends over at Relief Factor. A lot of people need Relief Factor because they're all inflamed and emotional. So maybe they should start taking Relief Factor to help the aches and pains that they That they cause everybody else. So, no, look, for real. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free way to manage everyday aches and pains that are really brought on by not dealing properly with inflammation. You know, Relief Factor helps support your body's natural inflammatory response. And that's what causes the aches and the soreness after workouts, stiffness and discomfort. It doesn't matter what decade of life you're in. If you're, you know, hitting the gym hard and heavy in your 20s or if you're like in your 70s and, you know, maybe, you know, everything, all your past activities are catching up with you. This is something that works for everyone. It incorporates resveratrol, curcumin, turmeric, and all kinds of ingredients that help maintain healthy joints and muscles. and also help decrease discomfort after exercising daily activities. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's only $0.95 a day. It's less than a cup of coffee. Don't wait. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF and get your three-week quick start today for only $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you. A transgender swimmer was banned for five years. Anna called us and was stripped of all competition results because he wouldn't take a gender verification test. He's 47 years old. He goes by the name of Hannah. He says it's not medically necessary. I don't know what tipped people off that he was not a woman. I mean, you can throw the photo up there, Juan, if you want. I mean, I just I don't know what tipped people off that. He said that chromosomal tests are invasive and expensive procedures. And he says his insurance won't do it. It's not medically necessary. I mean, what tipped everybody off? Oh, boy. Why did people start thinking that he wasn't a woman?
SPEAKER 20 :
The erection. I'm going to go out on a limb. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I don't think a test is needed.
SPEAKER 28 :
I mean... What tipped people off? You don't think? That's him right there.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, him. That's the big tip off for me.
SPEAKER 28 :
He really wanted to compete in women's swimming. So... The gender verification, it's part of the World Aquatics investigation into his eligibility. Now, Ken Paxson, who's the Texas AG, he was the one who kick-started all of this. They looked at the U.S. Masters swimming earlier this year. I mean, there's a lot of photos of him out there. He's a big lady, you know. He's... He said that he said this was his listen to how he tries to spend this. He says, I'm happy and I understand and accept the consequences, he said, because he was also suspended for five years. And he said, that's the price I have to pay to protect my most intimate medical information. I'm happy to pay that price for myself and for all women who don't want to undergo invasive testing. You know, there's there's ways that aren't invasive, right? you know, just drop Trow and let us see.
SPEAKER 20 :
We don't even need that. We don't even need that.
SPEAKER 28 :
I mean, again, if you just look at him, you might be confused. But he, and of course he was dominant in every race. Shocker. Shocking. I know. Who would have thought it? This, by the way, is DEI. All of this stuff stems from CRT. All of this is a Marxist cultural thing. That's where this all comes from. Now, if you thought that was crazy, if you thought that was nuts, which it was, then you're really going to like this one. See what you did there. This story, it's a story of an illegal alien. A Mexican national named Carlitos Parais, 44, of South Los Angeles. He was arrested. I'm looking at his rap sheet here. He got charged with assault on a federal officer. And then he tried to escape arrest. And then one agent responded. He ended up getting shot in the elbow. So why was he? Well, he has been he entered illegally and has been living illegally and apparently doing some other stuff. So I saw him driving his gray Toyota Camry. They surrounded him and then they approached and gave him orders to exit the car and submit to arrest. He refused. He drove the Camry forward and back and was knocking into the law enforcement vehicles. He refused to comply. And then he drove it more aggressively towards one another law enforcement vehicle. And they said that his driving was so aggressive that it escalated to the point that large... What's in the affidavit? Large plumes of smoke formed around the Camry. And that was caused by the spinning of the car's tires. There was debris because he was apparently so aggressive. He was throwing rubber off his tires in all directions. Some of the agents got hit by it. And so... What ended up happening is they were trying to dislodge the Camry because he ran in between two other vehicles. At one point, a federal agent was forced to open fire because the guy was trying to use his vehicle at that point as a murder weapon. And he could be jailed for up to eight years if he's convicted. But here's the kicker. The Los Angeles City Council hailed him as a, quote, pillar of our community. And they gave him an award. He was honored and presented with a framed award certificate of recognition. And they had a big thing and they gave it to him. They had photos of them awarding him this. I am without words, Cain.
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, it just is another check on the list of proof that Democrats care way more about criminals and illegals than they do the American citizen.
SPEAKER 28 :
Here's a question. So when do we as citizens get the privilege of ignoring whatever laws we want to ignore?
SPEAKER 20 :
Let alone be awarded for it.
SPEAKER 28 :
Because I have some. I have some that I don't. I don't want to follow. Yeah, and then we could get awards for it. I mean. Can you imagine? So I want to not also follow laws and get an award for not following the law. There are probably like veterans in Los Angeles. Well, there are veterans in Los Angeles who never got an award and they're probably drug addicted and left on the sidewalk. But this guy, he gets a framed award. Look, it's got the, if you're watching the simulcast, it has the seal, everything on it. Look, he's got the, it's all framed. You know, they probably gave him the frame too. He got the whole thing. They had it all pro-done. Is that not something? That's the guy. So he gets celebrated and awarded. And we wonder why we have such a problem with lawlessness and disorder, right? Now, what's more? So one of our listeners on social goes by poly girl in Hennepin County. This is kind of wild. Felony burglary is now a citation offense, right? No arrest, no booking. That's what it is. And this is in Minnesota, Hennepin County. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So a felony in Hennepin County, Minnesota is now just a ticket. You only get a ticket. That's a new thing. That's kind of like what they were doing in California, right? So they've changed them. And they there's there's paperwork that shows that these are all being downgraded. Bloomington City attorney, like, for instance, third degree burglary, interest public building steals. And that's just a citation. Now, there's no arrest. There's no anything. It's a felony. But now they're they're not even prosecuting it as such. You know, a lot of these clearance rates for a lot of these liberal cities and by clearance rates, I mean, you know, where you have these felonious activities and whether you get an arrest or you have somebody go to trial that counts as whether or not you're clearing that case. They have dropped so low. I think in Detroit, it's like 15% of the cases that they deal with actually. I mean, it's staggering. It is staggering. The... structure the judicial system in this restorative justice. There are so many studies that dance around it, but they don't want to actually confirm that that's what's really driving so much of this stuff. I've never seen anything like this. I mean, it's wild, but this is part of the part of the issue as it pertains to the criminal justice system. You have these prosecutors that are just issuing wrist slaps and judges that are issuing wrist slaps, and they think that that somehow is going to be better in mitigating crime than just enforcing the law. Like, for instance, the Glock thing, which we will be talking about more, where they're trying to force Glock to redesign their firearms because the criminal's will commit a felony by installing a switch in it which anything is modifiable no matter what and it's not what gets me is like you got i mean for crying out loud you know who the criminals are you know who the people are doing it instead of arresting them they're making glock literally redesign their guns that's like making vehicles redesign or automobile manufacturers redesign their vehicles because people are stealing them You're going to blame the product and act like the attractiveness and the covetousness of it is the problem and not the law breaking. That's where we are. You're going to get more vigilantism if this keeps up. That's a guarantee.
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SPEAKER 25 :
My kids have not eaten five days. It is the taxpayer's responsibility to take care of my kids.
SPEAKER 27 :
Trump done cut them fools themselves. If you're poor, don't have kids, okay? If you're struggling, don't have kids. Don't bring more in. If you already have them, that's another situation. If you don't have them, don't bring any in. And if you have two, don't go having another one. If you have one,
SPEAKER 26 :
So they say two million is getting cut off this month for the scamps. I'm about to go find out if I'm in that number, in that ratio.
SPEAKER 25 :
It's been day five and I have not received no food stamps. My disability checks is on hold. My cash benefits is not coming no more. They're still pending. It is the taxpayer's job to pay for my kids.
SPEAKER 28 :
Okay, that's not true. That's not true, actually. I mean... It's not a job.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's just a program that exists.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah, it's a program that exists. And... Wow. I mean, I feel like if you have an expensive phone and you can record yourself and you can do all this stuff and you are otherwise healthy and you can go out and do work, I don't think that you need to be permanently on food stamps. I just don't think that's...
SPEAKER 20 :
Part of the problem is that in high schools, nothing in regards to fiscal responsibility or any sort of financial education happens before you graduate high school. So all these people are financially illiterate, 100% of them, unless their parents have done their job, when they graduate high school. And this is what we're seeing.
SPEAKER 28 :
Again, I was raised for a significant portion of my life by a single mom who didn't go on government benefits and worked two jobs in order to make ends meet. So I don't believe that it's impossible. It's no one's responsibility to take care of your family but yourself. That's why it's good to have ambition and to value merit and all of those things. And a lot of these people, sorry, they're young and healthy. Get a job.
SPEAKER 20 :
This also points to how important self-reliance is because once you put your reliance in something else and that something else fails, now what do you have? And that's a good point. And you're seeing exactly what's happening.
SPEAKER 28 :
And that's a good point because it's – That's the government's M.O., is to divorce you from that self-reliance. Tomorrow, we're going to get into this issue with the ranching and some of the Argentinian money and all of these things. what the administration is doing. But I also think nothing that they do is going to be successful unless we deal with the regulations on ranchers and farming here domestically. And we're going to dive into some of that tomorrow. In the meantime, today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right. All that suffering that you just saw just a couple minutes ago right here is designed by the Democrats. And unfortunately, they said it out loud for you to hear. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 31 :
I mean, shutdowns are terrible. And of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously.
SPEAKER 20 :
Suffering.
SPEAKER 31 :
But it is one of the few leveraged times we have.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, there it is. So they want to leverage your suffering. Your emotions then will hopefully push in the direction they want you politically.
SPEAKER 28 :
That's so sad. But they admitted it. So when they show you who they are, believe them. That does it for us today. I hope you guys have a great rest of your evening. Find us on Substack, Chapter & Verse, YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow.
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This was super interesting, and especially to see that everything can lead to something else, like how cooking led you to be, you know, the founder, the president of a business, and even like your activities in high school, middle school, like led to this moment.
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SPEAKER 08 :
What's really driving Democrats isn't healthcare. It's not a desire for negotiations. It's politics. and far left activists who demanded a showdown with President Trump. The real reason we're now in the longest full government shutdown in history is because Democrats are afraid of backlash from the far left if they stand down.
SPEAKER 12 :
That was Senate Majority Leader John Thune today blaming Democrats for holding the government hostage as the shutdown drags on with no deal in sight. Welcome to this October 23rd edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us. Well, coming up on this Thursday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel to shore up support for the shaky U.S.-brokered Gaza truce, and Hamas reportedly plans new attacks as the vice president of of the U.S., says the U.S. will not support Israel exercising sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Former Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann will join us to break all of that down. Also, we'll get the latest on the government shutdown from Ohio Senator John Husted. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, praying their, quote, circle of trust as they pushed forward the U.S.-brokered Gaza peace plan. While progress is being made, tensions remain high as Hamas terrorists reportedly plan to intensify killing opponents. And that makes it appear that Hamas has no intention of letting go of control over Gaza, which would violate terms of the ceasefire agreement. Joining me now is Washington stand reporter Casey Harper, who's been following today's main developments. Casey, Vice President J.D. Vance made some interesting comments on his way out of Israel regarding Judea and Samaria. What did he exactly say?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, Tony, the vice president raised eyebrows when he said that President Trump is against Israel annexing Judea and Samaria, also called the West Bank. He even went on to call a recent Israeli vote to do just that, the annexation. He called it a, quote, stupid political stunt while in Israel. Now, that bill passed an initial vote, but has no support from the Israeli prime minister's party.
SPEAKER 15 :
If it was a political stunt, it was a very stupid political stunt, and I personally take some insult to it. The West Bank is not going to be annexed by Israel. The policy of the Trump administration is that the West Bank will not be annexed by Israel. That will continue to be our policy. And if people want to take symbolic votes, they can do that. But we certainly weren't happy about it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, Vance argues annexation could hurt the fragile Gaza ceasefire. And this all comes as Secretary of State Marco Rubio and other officials are in Israel right now to help shore up what you were right to call a shaky peace effort. Now, for now, Tony, the ceasefire is holding, but Israel is continuing to accuse Hamas terrorists of violations every day, Tony.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, like I said on yesterday's program, my advice to Israel is annex while they can. Former Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann is going to join us later to weigh in on this story. This is extremely important because we're talking about Judea and Samaria, which is the heartland of Israel. And as I said, we'll talk about that more with Michelle Bachmann. All right, Casey, President Trump appears to be employing stronger economic tools to end the war in Ukraine.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, that's right, Tony. So the U.S., they slapped new sanctions on Russia's top oil companies, Rosneft and Lukoil, which the president's been unwilling to do up until now. Now, this is supposed to, of course, help weaken funding for the ongoing war in Ukraine. And these sanctions come as Russia, they're only ratcheting up pressure. In fact, they actually held major military drills involving nuclear capable missiles. Now, the sanctions follow the sudden cancellation of that promised summit between Trump and Putin in Budapest that's now not going to happen because the president said the meeting didn't feel right.
SPEAKER 04 :
They're massive sanctions and sanctions on oil. The two biggest oil companies, among the biggest in the world, but they're Russian. They do a lot of oil. And hopefully it'll push... Hopefully, he'll become reasonable, and hopefully, Zelensky will be reasonable, too. You know, it takes two to tango, as they say, and we're going to find out.
SPEAKER 20 :
It's worth noting, Tony, that the president does have an upcoming meeting with China's President Xi Jinping, and Trump hopes that he can get Beijing to pressure Russia to stop the fighting.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thanks, Casey. Let's shift gears very quickly to the debate over the government shutdown. As you mentioned, the national debt has now topped $38 trillion amid the ongoing federal government shutdown, marking the fastest debt growth since the COVID-19 pandemic. Just in the last two months, we've added $1 trillion to the debt. So where do things stand now with the shutdown?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, sorry to disappoint you, Tony, but Senator Schumer has no plans to change what's going on right now. No deal appears to be in sight. The Senate failed earlier today to pass two bills to even just pay federal workers during the shutdown until they figure this out. Both parties, as you might expect, are blaming each other, but thousands of federal employees are the ones missing their paychecks. So Republicans put forward a plan to pay those who are still working, which is the one that Democrats blocked today. But Democrats, they pushed forward their own version of a bill to pay everyone, but Republicans objected, saying it was rewarding inaction.
SPEAKER 08 :
Military families have turned to food banks in unprecedented numbers. And things are about to get worse. The nutrition assistance programs that millions of Americans depend on to feed their families are in jeopardy. And tomorrow, federal workers will miss a full paycheck because of the Democrat shutdown.
SPEAKER 20 :
As of today, the second longest government shutdown in U.S. history is on day 23, Tony.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, Casey, thanks for the update on today's top news stories. Always appreciate the insight. All right. I want to dive a little bit deeper into the government shutdown and discuss the latest with a member of the Senate. Joining me now is U.S. Senator John Husted of Ohio, who serves on several Senate committees, including the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. Senator, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great to be with you. Thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, so we're just going through the news. Another vote today. No action, no additional Democratic support for opening the government. Are you hearing anything? Are you seeing any ray of light of hope that we might see the government open back up?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't. I don't see any movement on their side. As you've heard Chuck Schumer say, he believes that every day it gets better for them, meaning politically for Democrats, even though it's terrible for the American people and the people who are working and not getting paid, including men and women in the military, air traffic controllers, etc., And you heard another Democratic leader in the House say that she knows that there's going to be suffering, but it's the only leverage they have. So you can see they see this in completely political terms and not in terms of what's best for the American people.
SPEAKER 12 :
Senator, you mentioned the comments of Democratic whip Catherine Clark. I'm going to play the clip of what she had to say so people can hear it. Play clip number two, please.
SPEAKER 18 :
Shutdowns are terrible. And of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leveraged times we have.
SPEAKER 12 :
So they want to leverage the pain of the people to try to get the Republicans to come along with their $1.5 trillion in additional spending?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's I mean, all that does is reveals that it's really just a political strategy. I think we all know that Chuck Schumer is feeling the pressure of of younger Democrats who think he's a failure as a leader. And so he's trying to prove to his political left base that he can fight back against President Trump by fighting back against President Trump. is at the expense of what's best for the American people in this case. And I think ultimately this is a terrible thing for everyone, but it just proves that they're not interested in being serious about trying to serve the American people. And look, I voted, I think, what were we at? 12 times I voted to reopen the government. And we have some more pain that's coming with WIC and SNAP benefits and things like that that will eventually... run out for people, and we need to get the government back open. Remember, this is a clean CR that we're asking them to vote for, meaning that there's no politics in it, no games. We're spending at Biden-era levels in these agencies, so why should they be against that? And it would only create funding through November the 21st, at which time we will have to go over this, through this again. So even if you vote for the CR and you get people funded, then do that, and then we'll keep negotiating about whatever you want. But remember, the government is supposed to be funded by 12 appropriations bills that pass on a bipartisan basis through the U.S. Senate. We've done four of them, I believe, now. And frankly, we need to get back to work. But Chuck Schumer is going to have to decide that he cares about the American people and not just his own political fortunes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Senator Husted underscore the need to get back to the appropriations process, the normal appropriations, which is literally been decades since it's been done over two decades. The the irresponsibility of omnibus automatic growth of continuing resolutions i think that's what's wrong with this one in the eyes of the democrats is that it's just flat spending but the backdrop to all of this is a record 38 trillion dollar debt that the united states has how do we get that under control
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I've been here 10 months, and it's been one of the most perplexing issues that I have faced since I was here. My maiden floor speech was about the responsibility that we have as leaders to not be takers, but to leave an inheritance of a nation that our children will have a chance to prosper. But instead, we run up all of this debt as a nation that undermines America's future. And it's very difficult because, you know, just like we're trying to get the government open, it's a 60 vote process. to make any substantial change on this front. And right now, we can't even get the government open. The Democrats wanted to spend, by the way, I should note this when we're talking about the debt, they wanted as a condition for their votes and what they offered, a $1.5 trillion in additional spending that would have created opportunities for illegal immigrants to have their health care paid for in this country. That's what they want. They're trying to jack up spending more and more with everything that they do, which is counter to what we really need to do, is to get our spending in order. And to do this, by the way, I'm happy to do it on a bipartisan process. Well, as the Senate process of 60 votes and minority rights gives you. But you can't just, as Chuck Schumer, I'm using his own words. He said he won't negotiate with a gun to his head. So why would he expect us to do the very thing that he swore he wouldn't do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Exactly. But you're right to point that out because that's how we got to $38 trillion in debt is these leveraging points where in order to vote for this, they want more money spent. I commend the Republicans for holding the line on this. It's the first time I've seen it in 20 years where they've held the line on spending, and that's the issue here with whether or not the government opens back up. All right, Senator, we just have less than a minute left. I want to ask you a question. I want to actually make a statement, but I'll ask a question with it. You joined 50 of your Republican colleagues in the Senate earlier this month in sending a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services and the FDA asking them to suspend distribution of the abortion drug Mifeprestone and the new generic that has been issued. This is an important issue to you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's a very important issue to me. For those of you that don't know about my background, which is probably most of your listeners, I started out life in a foster home. My birth mother faced a lot of pressure to have an abortion. Instead, she had an adoption, and that's the only reason I'm here. because of her courage. And so the sanctity of life and helping to support the children born and unborn is an important issue to me. And a lot of the abortion drugs that are out there are not safe for women, misleading information out there. And we need to make sure that they have all the facts.
SPEAKER 12 :
Senator, we want to get you back on the program again soon and hear that entire story. Senator Husted of Ohio. Stick with us, folks. We're back after this. Our founding scripture for this is Ephesians 6, verse 13. Therefore, take up the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand in the evil day. And having done all to stand, stand therefore.
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SPEAKER 12 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. Let me encourage you, if you have not yet downloaded the Stand Firm app, that you get the Stand Firm app. That way you can have Washington Watch with you. You can also have our Washington Stand, which is news and commentary from a biblical perspective, and my morning devotion, Stand on the Word. All of that is found on the Stand Firm app, plus a lot more, a lot more resources to help you to be an informed, engaged citizen. Get the Stand Firm app. All right, for anyone who knows anything about the gambling industry, it should not be a surprise what the FBI announced today. Two massive mafia-linked gambling and sports rigging operations. The FBI unveiled those investigations today. They led to an arrest of over 30 individuals, with more expected to surrender. Among those facing charges are current and former NBA figures, as well as members of four New York crime families. and in the case of the sports rigging operation the defendants have been accused of exploiting insider information to bet on nba games and what the u.s attorney's office described as quote one of the most brazen sports corruption schemes since online sports betting became widely legalized in the united states end quote again We shouldn't be surprised. Joining me now to discuss this, Dr. John Kent, professor emeritus of business administration at the University of Illinois. Professor Kent has studied and been outspoken on the issue of gambling for the past four decades. Professor, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks for having me and thanks for all that you do to inform the public. You do an excellent job. And I should say that 98 to 99% of academics are against gambling in all of its forms. And we're actually, we don't receive any honorariums or consultant fees. So this is a real bipartisan, nonpartisan issue. Everybody should be on board. And what you've mentioned is just the tip of the iceberg. This is gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, are you surprised at all, Professor, that this has happened?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I'm not surprised. And I've held this up before, but this is you testified before the National Gambling Impact Study Commission 30 years ago. You and your colleagues, your profits on this. It said, do not let this sports gambling spread. Keep it off of cell phones. You cannot control gambling on the Internet. Keep it criminalized. And of course, we're in a totally different world now. And let me just say, the smartest thing that President Trump could do is call for a new National Gambling Impact Study Commission. It's been 30 years since the last one. Second thing he can do to help all of this cheating that's going on in professional sports. is to call for the establishment of a new Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act. The original one was overturned by the Supreme Court on a technicality, but it was promoted by Bill Bradley, the NBA legend, who back in 1992 said, This is going to happen if we don't have this legislation in place. And the final thing is the Obama administration gutted U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy's Wire Act, which was against organized crime. And if President Trump would simply get DOJ to reinstate that, that would go a long way to helping remedy these types of problems.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, Professor, anyone who knows anything about the gambling industry, going back to the Revolutionary War where they sold the lottery tickets, knows the corrupt nature of gambling. But lay out for us, because this is something, as you said, people warned once professional sports mixed with gambling, it was ripe for corruption. Unpack a little bit for our viewers and listeners what these two cases, what happened in these two cases.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I don't want to get into them in too much depth. I'd rather concentrate on how to remedy the situation or to make the situation better. These cases are going to unfold and anything that I would say might impact on the cases themselves. And I think that's why you saw during the press conference today, the head of the FBI and the other officials who were very circumspect in what they said about these cases, because they don't want to prejudice anything that's going to happen with these.
SPEAKER 12 :
But let me let me stop you right there, Professor, because I think this just shows the nature of it, that you have NBA players who were taking themselves out of the game. And it was it was basically throwing the bets. I mean, this is I mean, remember when Pete Rose. When he was playing and he betted and he was disgraced for that and he was, by the way, I was a big Cincinnati fan growing up. And he was one of my heroes there on the baseball field. But this is the nature of, this is human nature. I mean, history has repeated this over and over again. And we have government facilitating this corruption. So why should we be surprised when it happens?
SPEAKER 10 :
We shouldn't. Those who forget the lessons of history are condemned to relive them. That's George Santayana. I remember that during a gambling congressional hearing back in 1994. And I remember in 1995 actually sitting behind a member of organized crime as he testified before the House Judiciary Committee, which passed. The U.S. National Gambling Impact Study Commission. I mean, this is this is going to get worse and worse unless we stop it now.
SPEAKER 12 :
OK, let's talk about we just have two minutes left. Let's talk about remedies. What can Congress do? What can the administration do?
SPEAKER 10 :
President Trump, smartest thing he can do is pass a new National Gambling Impact Study Commission, pass a new Professional Amateur Sports Protection Act, reinstate Robert F. Kennedy, U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy's Wire Act against organized crime, and place five really big restrictive regulators on the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Because right now, the companies are, you see gambling everywhere and gambling on anything. The reason they're getting away with this is because they found a loophole with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. My colleagues and I wrote about this back in 2021, 2022, said we've got to stop this or it's going to, it's already on everybody's cell phone, you know, click your phone, lose your home. It's on your it's in your click your mouse, lose your house. And they're targeting kids. Let me tell you, I mean, Newsweek gets it. They're targeting kids and they've got these new gotcha games. The regulations are are ridiculous. They're window dressing. Right. Let me ask you a quick question. Who do you know who Steven Paddock was?
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't recall.
SPEAKER 10 :
Steven Paddock is the biggest mass murderer in the history of the United States. You remember Columbine? You remember Sandy Hook? But you don't remember Steven Paddock. Killed 59 people, wounded 413. He was a shooter in Las Vegas.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, that's right. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
The industry is great at covering all this up.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. We're out of time. You know, my bet is that Congress doesn't tackle this, but we could get the administration to do something. That is if you're taking wagers. But I wouldn't recommend you do that.
SPEAKER 10 :
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Professor Kine, thank you so much. All right, folks, stick with us. We're back after this. For over 4,000 years, the Jewish people have had legal, historical, and biblical ties to the land of Israel, especially the heartland of Israel, Judea and Samaria, which much of the world still calls the West Bank. To Israelis, Judea and Samaria is far more than a name. It's the center of their ancestral homeland where nearly 80% of the Bible's events took place. Abraham purchased property in Hebron, Jacob in Shechem, Joshua made an altar on Mount Ebal and led the Israelites into a covenant before God. On Mount Gerizim, overlooking Shechem, Jesus talked to the Samaritan woman at the well about worshiping neither on Mount Gerizim nor in Jerusalem, but in spirit and in truth. Judea and Samaria is nearly a quarter of Israel's current land mass, not a small strip of land on the Jordan River, but a vital and strategic part of the nation's identity. The October 7th massacre, launched from Gaza, shattered the illusion that giving away territory brings peace. Gaza, which was once seen as the cornerstone of a two-state solution, became a launchpad for terror. Today, only 21% of Israelis support a Palestinian state. Trust in a two-state solution has all but collapsed. The Middle East is changing. Iran's grip is weakening. New alliances are forming. But Western countries and some U.S. officials still chase the mirage of a two-state solution. History speaks clearly. The 2005 Gaza withdrawal, backed by the U.S., led not to peace, but to a terrorist regime. Judea and Samaria are 24 times larger than Gaza, deeply woven into Israel's geographic and spiritual fabric. To surrender them would not bring peace. It would invite conflict and existential danger. Family Research Council stands with Israel's rightful claim to sovereignty. It's time for America to do the same for history, for justice, and for lasting security in the Middle East. All right. Welcome back to this Thursday edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us. Professor Kent is a longtime friend. I've actually worked with him back when I was in the legislature in Louisiana working against gambling. In fact, it's the life issue and gambling were two of the main reasons I ran for office and became the anti gambling. leader in the Louisiana legislature. And what I predicted happened. Gambling began to corrupt government. It has that influence. So we're going to continue to track this because I think this opens up or pulls back the curtain for people to see what has happened since gambling has merged with professional sports. So we'll keep you posted on that. And it's important. All right, as much of the Western world begins to sober from its hangover of gender confusion, Albania seems determined to join the party late, proposing a gender equality bill that opens the door to multiple genders. Joining me now to discuss this is Pastor Akil Pano. He's the founder and president of the National Albania Pro-Life and Family Coalition. He was here in the United States for the PrayVoteStand Summit, but he's back in Albania. Pastor Pano, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Good evening. It's a privilege. So unpack for our viewers and listeners. What is what is about to happen there in Albania?
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Well, it's very sad, sad news, you know, from Albania, actually. The socialist government in Albania, finally, they have come up with a bill proposing to our parliament to pass this bill on gender equality. A bill that is aiming to radically transform our culture, undermine personal freedom, alter language, law, tradition, introduce gender ideology into our schools, erode the moral foundations of the family and poor society towards the woke ideology. I mean, it's like what you guys had in the United States during Biden-Harris administration. Now, the socialist government in Albania, in one way, is trying to justify the Sorry to say it in this way, but the American taxpayers' money that came in Albania through the Open Society Foundation through the last years, now they are aiming to push further this agenda in Albania.
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Now, that's Open Society. That's George Soros. And we know that they had teamed up with the Obama administration, the Biden administration, working all through Europe to try to tilt government toward pro-abortion, gender-confused policies. But here's the thing, Pastor Pano, that the rest of the world is waking up to the... nonsensical approach to this gender issue, but Albania is marching straight ahead into this, even though you have now all these other countries that have rethought this?
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Well, actually, the saddest part is that this is going against the will of the Albanian people. We just finished a survey, a national survey, in just 30 hours. There were 10,000 people that participated in this survey. And in one voice, 99 percent of Albanians, they are against this bill. But it looks like one of the most faithful friends of the George Soros family, which happens to be the president, prime minister of Albania, is trying to remain faithful to the agenda and is trying to put further this bill in our parliament, which will be a disaster in our culture, in our tradition. It's a counterculture. Actually, it's a cancer. It's a disease going to be implemented into our society. into our culture. We as clerics in Albania, we see it as we are risking council culture, we are risking the freedom of speech and the freedom of faith, the freedom of conscience, because there are so many sanctions in this bill that are forbidding us to be true to our beliefs, to... So that's coming from the government.
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In this bill, the government will be able to use the power of the government authority to silence pastors.
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one of the articles in the bill actually speaks about many sanctions they start with fines and then you are risking uh going to jail if you are not sub submitting yourself uh to the agenda well it's it's very very clear We are talking about a red definition of gender. Gender is no longer seen as binary category, male and female, as we know it from the Bible and from the nature, but they are talking about more than 72 different genders can be recognized through this bill. gender sensitive language this is the problem that we are i mean it it carries a lot of risk to our work changes a lot of changes in our language in the legal documents such as passports diplomas forms courts procedures institutions schools and media if we are not going to obey this new vocabularity, the new gender sensitive language, then we are going to be having all these fines and we are going to risk prison. Then they are talking about gender ideology in the schools. Curriculum will change, transforming the way how our kids are going to be taught in schools. Teachers and psychologists are going to be trained by LGBTQ plus organizations. They are talking about gender equality in sports, like what you had in America with transgenders playing in women's sports. They are talking about transgenders in the army, and so on and so forth. I mean, it's the full package that President Trump revoked by that declaration that he said that in the United States you know only two genders, male and female.
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This is going the opposite direction of where most of the rest of the Western world has come, in large part because of the pushback. So I commend you for pushing back because someone has to stand up and say this is insane. We have 30 seconds left. What's the timeline and how can folks here in this country be praying?
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Please pray for us and pray that United States Embassy in Tirana, Albania, would stay in alignment with the State Department, would stay on alignment with the will of Albanian people and with President Trump's declaration that there are only two genders. A little bit of help from the United States Embassy, it may make a huge difference in our situation here.
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What's the timeframe? When would this be voted on?
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We have a few more talks in different parliamentary commissions in the parliament. We're going to have some debates.
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We've got to leave it there. Folks, stick with us.
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Three years ago, the Supreme Court issued its historic Dobbs decision, a ruling that overturned Roe versus Wade, which for nearly 50 years imposed abortion on demand, silencing voters and bypassing the democratic process across the country. The Dobbs decision was a huge step forward against abortion, but it didn't outright ban it. It returned the power to the people. Now, 29 states have laws on the books protecting life. However, there's a catch. Abortion numbers since Dobbs have actually gone up with an increase of 12% since 2020, climbing from 930,000 to over 1 million in each of the most recent years. So how can this be? The answer is simple, the abortion drug. Today, over 60% of US abortions involve abortion drugs, many of these without medical oversight. In 2021, the Biden administration quietly removed bare minimum longstanding safety protocols for the abortion drug that have existed for 20 years to protect women from life-threatening risks and ensuring informed consent. The Biden DOJ then declared that they would not enforce the Comstock Act, which prevents the mailing of anything that causes an abortion. This is not only illegal, but also dangerous. A study shows nearly 11% of women who take the abortion drug end up in the emergency room with serious complications. Unless the Trump administration reverses these reckless Biden-era policies, pro-life laws will remain largely symbolic. Without a full review and repeal of Mifepristone, unborn lives will remain in grave danger, and pregnant mothers will remain at risk. Let's stand for life and end this mail order abortion drug pipeline. Sign the petition urging the Trump administration to take action at frc.org slash stop chemical abortion.
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All right, welcome back to Washington Watch. I tell you what, that clock is unrelenting. Sorry I had to cut off Pastor Pano, but I do want you to be praying for Albania, a serious issue. I mean, the rest of the world is kind of waking up to the disastrous policies of the left as they've been pushing this gender confusion. So be praying for them. In fact, as I said, he was here this past weekend for the Pray, Vote, Stand Summit in Southern California. He's been courageously standing there. So pray for him and his wife as well. All right, for those of you who have joined us on our Stand on the Word Bible reading journey, we have a new resource that goes with our reading in November. It's the new study guide, Paul's Prison Letters. It'll help you through the 14-day journey through Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Philemon. Begins on November the 1st. Great letters, filled with so much truth. To find out how to get a copy, simply text the word letters, that's letters, plural, to 67742, that's 67742, the word letters. And speaking of the word, our word for today comes from Romans chapter 12, where Paul says, I beseech you, therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. Now, Paul's imagery here is rich. We don't fully grasp it because we no longer live in an age of animal sacrifices. Yet the call is clear. Those saved by God's mercy are to offer their entire beings, body and soul, as a living sacrifice. And not just any sacrifice, but one that is holy and acceptable, like those of the old covenant offered without blemish. This, Paul says, is our reasonable service. It's not for spiritual extra credit. It's the expected response of a life redeemed by grace. He goes on in verse 2 to say, and do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. So how does that happen? Well, the transformation begins with this. We're not to be shaped by the world's values. As John wrote in 1 John, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. We shouldn't have a part of that, but rather be renewed daily by God's Word, proving His good, acceptable, and perfect will. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. Okay, yesterday the Israeli Knesset, that's their parliament, voted 25 to 24 to advance legislation that seeks to apply Israeli laws and sovereignty to the settlement areas in Judea and Samaria, which some refer to as the West Bank. Now, the members of the Knesset, the member of the Knesset who introduced this legislation said, quote, in applying sovereignty to Judea and Samaria, we are making a correction that is long overdue. But the Trump administration was not happy about that move. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said there's potential for it to threaten the peace deal, referring to the fragile agreement between Israel and Hamas. And Vice President J.D. Vance had stronger words, calling it a very stupid political stunt. Here's what he said.
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If it was a political stunt, it was a very stupid political stunt. And I personally take some insult to it. The West Bank is not going to be annexed by Israel. The policy of the Trump administration is that the West Bank will not be annexed by Israel. That will continue to be our policy. And if people want to take symbolic votes, they can do that. But we certainly weren't happy about it.
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Well, I know if you are a frequent listener, you know I talk about this issue quite often. I spend a lot of time in Israel. It's important. It's one of those probably I would say five issues we can't afford to get wrong here in America, and the church needs to be vocal about it. We talk about the West Bank, Judea and Samaria. That's about a quarter of the land mass of the nation of Israel. And the reason they don't want Israel to – exercise sovereignty over that region is because that fuels the hope of a quote-unquote two-state solution that would allow for a Palestinian state within the borders of Israel right in the heart of the land. Untenable. Won't work. Can't work. It just won't. Joining me now to discuss this is former Congressman Michelle Bachmann from Minnesota, who was a member of the House Intelligence Committee during her time in Congress. She is now the dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University. She also serves on the board of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, as well as the FRC Board of Directors. Michelle, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
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Tony, thank you. Great to be here.
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All right. I want to get your response to Vice President J.D. Vance's remarks about this being a stupid political stunt.
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I was actually shocked because, you know, it was earlier this year that Ambassador Huckabee had said that, yes, he saw no reason with the United States extending sovereignty over Judea, Samaria. In fact, it was only maybe two months ago that Secretary of State Rubio was in Israel. and he had made the statement that it's up to Israel if they want to extend sovereignty over Judea-Samaria, they can. Because for the sake of your viewers, they need to know that Israel has controlled Judea-Samaria since 1967. They won it in the Six-Day War, just like they won Gaza in the Six-Day War. So for America first to proponents who believe that we need to pay attention to what's going on in our own nation. It's quite a shocking statement to come out of the Trump administration to tell another country you're not allowed to extend sovereignty over your own land.
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There's a security issue here as well. I mean, we go back to and I've talked about this on the program, but you go back to the founding of Israel. There's been 20 different conflicts, wars, some external, a lot of them internal. Of course, we've been focused on Gaza for the last 20 years. But prior to that, you had the uprising in Samaria and Judea that lasted over a decade. And with the release of these 2,000 terrorists from the prisons of Israel, part of this 20-point peace plan, they went right into Samaria. They were released in Ramallah. I mean, there's a security issue there, is there not?
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There's a huge security there, Tony. As if Israel hasn't had enough problems to deal with, now they have 2,000 terrorists, meaning convicted lifetime convictions of murderers, rapists, who are being dropped back into Israeli society in Judea or Samaria. So this means Israeli lives are at risk. Why? Why were they committing these acts of terrorism? Because they're committed to killing every Jew that they can. They want to kill every Jew so that they can take over the entire land. And so it seems from the Trump administration, it's kind of hard to believe, but it seems like they are taking, they're moving more toward the position of Qatar, which is the chief funder of terrorism in the world, and also of Saudi Arabia, of Turkey, of Egypt. And so Israel right now seems like they're being hung out to dry a little bit. And the Trump administration is telling Israel, you have to get in line with our 20-point plan. And our 20-point plan suggests that Judea, Samaria will one day join Gaza and be considered, which is impossible, and be considered its own separate nation. That's rewarding the terrorists of October 7th. with their own country. So it's shocking, this 20-point plan. I disagree with this 20-point plan, because it simply won't work. We've seen one peace plan after another put into place, putting a lot of these elements in, and now the movement is to try and put together an Arab coalition inside Gaza to maintain the peace. That hasn't worked in Syria. That hasn't worked in Iraq. That hasn't worked in Iran. That hasn't worked in Lebanon. It surely isn't going to work in Gaza, but it's something that's being pushed right now by the envoys, Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff. They're demanding this plan, but it's one that hasn't worked in the past. I have very little faith it'll work in the future.
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Michelle, let me ask you this question. When President Trump in his first administration moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, there was all of this prognosticating. Yeah, I think that's what I was going to say. There was this hand-wringing that was taking place. There was all of this fear that there was going to be this— explosion in the Middle East. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. It settled the issue. So here's my point. If you allow Israel to exercise sovereignty over this area, would that not take off the table this aspiration that the terrorists have that someday they'll have a Palestinian state within the borders of Israel. And I think actually bring a resolution to this conflict as opposed to just kicking the can down the road.
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Well, it would. And as Christians, we believe what the Bible says. And the Bible says that Judea, Samaria is the covenant land that God gave to Israel and the Jewish people forever. Any other solution short of that, Tony, will never work. That's why there will never be peace. because this is God's specific land for his specific people, because out of this land comes Messiah and salvation for the whole world. God knows what he's doing. We need to trust him. And that's why I'm actually shocked right now at the move of the Trump administration. I love Donald Trump. I've supported him and his administration. And I agree with 95% of what Donald Trump is doing. But the one thing where there seems to be a blind spot in the Trump administration is regarding Israel and the right of the Jewish people biblically to their land. And it's very specific that no nation, not even the United States, has any authority to divide the land that God gave to the Jewish people, nor do we have any authority to remove any of the Jewish people off the land. So I wish someone would let the Trump administration know what the Bible says about this land, because the Bible gives the consequences to nations. And if nations do any of that, Tony, as you know, then God brings... drastic consequences, negative consequences to the nations that do this. We want our nation to be blessed. I want the Trump administration to succeed as I know you do, but they can't succeed if they're violating what the Bible says regarding the Jewish people and the land.
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And history is filled with examples of that. Those nations that cursed Israel and did not bless Israel paid a steep price for that. They are no more. We don't know God's timeline. We don't know his timeline of the unfolding of biblical prophecy, but we do know where he's headed. Because his word makes very clear there. So whether or not you agree that it's happening, and you and I agree on this, I'm saying generally speaking, you might not agree that Israel is going to occupy the land or that 1948 was a reestablishment of the nation according to scripture. I happen to believe it was. But that's the direction God is going. And so as a nation and as Christians, as believers, as followers of Christ, we should be moving in the same direction that God's plan is moving, not the opposite.
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Amen, and that's why, Tony, the greatest service that your viewers can do is to pray. Pray for the President of the United States. Let your senators and your House members know that you stand with God's will for Israel, and you stand for Israel having sovereignty over their own land. We need to pray for the Trump administration, that believers will be able to get a message to Donald Trump and Vice President Vance regarding the Bible, that It's very important. And geopolitically it's very important that Israel controls their own land. The greatest peace that will come out of Israel is if Israel controls Gaza and controls Judea and controls Samaria. It doesn't mean that the Arabs have to leave. They don't have to. They can stay there. But Israel needs to control the land. That's the greatest opportunity for peace in the land.
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Well, Michelle, actually, and you know this, there are Arabs living there, Klan leaders, who want the Israeli government to control the area. They want to be out from underneath the Palestinian Authority because it's corrupt. They would like kind of an Emirates arrangement to where the Klans lead, but they're under the jurisdiction of the Israeli government.
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Well, that's right. As a matter of fact, in Hebron, Hebron is where Abraham is buried, Leah, Isaac, Rebecca, they're buried in there in the Cave of the Patriarchs. And the Arab leaders in Hebron have said they disavow the corrupt Palestinian Authority. They would like to see the various clan leaders make a deal for peace. But that's why Israel needs to be strengthened. The most recent actions from the Trump administration have weakened Israel's hand in this 20-point plan rather than strengthen it. If Israel's hands are strengthened, we will get a much better peace deal rather than bowing to the wishes of the leading funder of terrorism in the world, and that's Qatar.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, when you look at currency in the Middle East, strength and power is the primary currency. That's right. It appears that Israel has kind of been held back from finishing off one of their war objectives, and that was to eliminate Hamas in Gaza.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, that's right. As a matter of fact, Tony, Israel had all but one in Gaza. They were literally two weeks away from victory. They were occupying in excess of 80% of all of Gaza. When out of nowhere, we'd never heard Jared Kushner's name mentioned in this term. And out of nowhere, Jared Kushner swooped in with Steve Witkoff and they said, stop Israel, stop, halt right there. You can't have a victory. you are not allowed to win in Gaza. Why? Because to the victor go the spoils. If Israel would have won, then they would have had the right to dictate the terms and the control over Gaza. Instead, all of the gains that Israel made were ripped out of their hands, and now it seems like the will of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, They're weighing in, Turkey is weighing in on what should be done in Gaza. This is wrong. The United States shouldn't have done this. For the last two years, the United States has actually been an object of continuing the war. Had Joe Biden allowed Israel to do what they needed to do at the beginning and supplied them so that they could buy weapons and ammunition from the US, this would have been over in a matter of weeks in Gaza. Instead, the United States handcuffed Israel, and it looks like we're continuing to handcuff them now, unbelievably, under the Trump administration. That's why if your viewers could be praying for President Trump and for godly counsel to come to him, that's the greatest thing that could happen right now.
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Michelle Bachmann, we're going to do just that. Thanks so much for joining us. As always, appreciate your deep insights. And folks, I do want to encourage you to be praying. Michelle is absolutely right. We can appeal to the court of heaven that God would turn the hearts of our leaders, surround the president with godly counsel that would lead him to do the right thing, that would bless Israel. And as a result, America will be blessed as well. Thanks so much for joining us. Until next time, keep standing on the truth.
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Join us for a deep dive into the complexities of the current political stalemate as the Democrats present new bills amidst the government shutdown. With the voices of federal employees bringing a grassroots perspective, we uncover the human stories behind the headlines. From proposals to pay personnel to discussions on protecting free speech in schools, this episode provides a comprehensive analysis of how these legislative and societal issues intertwine and affect everyday Americans.
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Today on the show, the Democrats propose a new bill, a bizarre bill amidst the shutdown.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow. Fix my collar here, Will. I gotta, you know, look good on air here. Will Haines in studio. Jordan Sekulow in studio. Whereas we join again by Jeff Balaban. We got another update from Israel coming for you. So you're gonna like this one. This is actually a big win from the ACLJ. So we're excited to share that. Usually we don't have two hits from Israel back to back. But today is a very special day for our team today. at ACLJ Jerusalem and also at ACLJ here in the States. So that's going to be one if you've been following sort of the rise in anti-Semitism, obviously on college campuses, we've got a victory to report. So that's going to be a lot of fun coming up later. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We're looking at all the different topics we could discuss today. And the one that kind of jumped out is obviously there is pain. There is pain going right now. If you are a member of the government, if you are working for the government, maybe you've been furloughed, Maybe your paychecks are being held. And the Republicans, of course, there was another opportunity to move forward. The Democrats once again shut it down. This is what the, how many attempts?
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The 13th, 12th attempt? Yeah, that the Democrats decided not to reopen the government with a clean, continuing resolution.
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And not even really discuss it, not even have any sort of conversation. So that's what's happening. Of course, the Democrats will say it's Republicans. Republicans will say it's the Democrats. And the Republicans put a point together and said, hey, how about we start paying people, though?
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That's right. So Senator Ron Johnson is expected to have a vote today on a bill which would pay federal employees that are still having to work. Because there are those that are furloughed, that are at home, that aren't going to work. But then there are those, you think about the air traffic control, the military, people that still have to show up and are not going to be receiving a paycheck this Friday when payday rolls around. And so he put together a bill that those that are still having to show up should be getting paid for that. The Democrats are trying to frame that as, well, then the president gets to pick who's essential and who's not. He gets to pick who's getting paid and who's not, which is a ridiculous argument in and of itself. But now the Democrats came up with two kind of competing alternatives to Senator Johnson's bill. that's a good idea right they can't do that and then they can't also look like they didn't come up with something on their own right so one uh is the most bizarre thing that i think i've seen proposed by a democrat and they proposed a lot because someone thought a lot well someone thought This is a really good idea, and it's going to make us look better throughout this shutdown process. This comes out of Senator Gary Peters from Michigan. We have the text. You can see it on the screen of this bill. He's planning to announce today or to drop at the Senate today that would pay all federal employees, so every single one, 100%, From the start of the shutdown up until when that bill that you see on the screen is enacted. So essentially hitting the reset button on the government shutdown. Reopen. We're going to pay everybody. And then you immediately, you get your back pay, your one or two missed paychecks throughout this process, Jordan. But then immediately you're back at zero. You're still nervous for your family. You're still worried about it. It opens a wild precedent.
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A horrendous precedent to open because what it does is allows the government to operate at 100% when Congress has not passed a budget because now you're paying for everyone and because you have to do it every couple weeks... You're having to go back and vote. And if they're trying to tie pressure Republicans into doing this, say all these people need their paychecks, instead of Republicans saying they'd all be getting their back pay right now, if you signed on with the majority party who controls the House, the Senate, and the White House, continuing resolution, which, by the way, adds nothing new to what was already passed as law a year ago. So no new Republican plans. Just keep things as they are. You don't have to start a precedent of funding the government, but it's technically shunned. You can do that forever.
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You can literally keep the government closed and shut down forever, but fully paid. But then, of course, some of your services aren't getting done. It could be a disaster that they're not thinking of long term. Or maybe they are, and maybe that's what they want. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. What do you think about this? We've got more coming up as well. Again, support the work of the ACLJ. It can never be a more important time than to support free speech right now than at ACLJ.org. Welcome back to Secular. We are taking your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110. If you have your own hold, stay on hold and we'll get to you. Let's kind of reset what's going on because there's a lot of people who are just joining us right now, especially on our YouTube channel. Sometimes it takes a minute for YouTube to populate across the world. And right now we know a lot of you are joining and they go, what could be, Will? That big, interesting, bizarre, I think as I said in the tease, proposal. And the proposal really is to end the shutdown for about five minutes, enough for everyone to sign some paychecks, and shut it down real quick. So essentially really making the shutdown null and void, except for the services that affect people.
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Well, and as we've seen, the Democrats have failed to advance the end of the shutdown 12 times now. And so there are some people trying to come up with alternatives because the politics that they're playing in Washington are affecting real people's lives across America. And so Senator Johnson out of Wisconsin had a bill that would pay those that still have to come to work because they're forced to because it's essential jobs, air traffic control, the military, Social Security. That doesn't end. So someone's got to be there to process that. But those people processing the paychecks of Social Security are not getting paid themselves. His bill would pay those that are still forced to work. while even while the government is shut down the democrats won't go for that because they want to inflict as much pain to try to get republicans to cave and to give into their demands instead of passing the same continuing resolution that was passed last year and many times before that but so they're like we got to come up with our own counterpoint right because that's just too good exactly so there's the one that really caught my eye is from senator gary peters out of michigan oh my And he has a proposal that would pay all federal employees, so 100% of the government, from the day that the shutdown started To today or whenever that bill passes.
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So 23 days ago or 24.
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So for most people, that would be either one or two paychecks they're going to receive if this were to get enacted. Now, also, he doesn't really want it to go through because he's not putting it to a normal floor vote. He's forcing it through unanimous consent, which. Try getting 100 people. That would be every senator would have to agree to move forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
You have to get 100% of the U.S. Senate on a piece of legislative state. We'll pay everybody for two weeks. And by the way, we'll come back again in two weeks and have to pay them again or else you'll be the best. And then what is the impetus for ending the shutdown then if you are a Democrat? If you can now pay the entire bureaucracy, which you love, tell the OMB they can't furlough any more people. which is again not the role of the of congress the executive branch again executes the laws that they pass and then at the same time that they will try to use it against republicans to say in ads see we had a bill to pay you to make sure your your loved one who worked for the federal government was paid they voted no but what they're not telling you the truth is you'd be having this fight every two weeks which means you would never get to an end of a shutdown and Any federal employee right now who has been there at least since Trump 45, so President Trump's first term, has been through a shutdown longer than this. Now it's getting closer, but it was 35 days. And I think we're at day 23 right now. So I think they've been through it. They know they got their back pay. I think it's when you start getting close to the day 30, if it looks like no movement, you've got to push on something like what Ron Johnson is proposing. And not be... scared into thinking that you've got to vote for this Democrat proposal because of what ads they must run against you well and here's the other Democrats know right now it's hurting them they tried to make it the Trump shutdown it's been the Schumer shutdown since day one no one believes it's Trump when you start
SPEAKER 13 :
Also, Jordan, when you get to over 30 days in, then you start running up with almost every single employee having an issue with a mortgage, with a credit card bill, with those things that are on 30-day revolving payments. That starts coming up. Not just for obviously can be at any point. I'm sure people the very first point during the shutdown had that arising. But then you've reached 100 percent of the federal government are starting to have those issues. Then they really start hearing from their constituents and from those that are upset that you're not paying us. Yes, we'll get it all back pay. But that starts messing up. And we know banks are actually working with the customers because it isn't their fault. It is the fault of the federal government. But you start getting concerned about, is this going to affect my credit score? Is this going to affect my ability to help my family, to pay for other things, to get a loan in the future? And that is really what you're starting to look at when you get up on that 30-day deadline.
SPEAKER 12 :
I want to take a phone call because it is someone who is affected. Let's go to Mark who's calling in Oklahoma. Watch it on Facebook. Mark, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey guys, thanks for all that you do today. Thank you for calling. I woke up. It's my 13 year anniversary for the federal aviation administration. And I woke up to a leave and earning statement that said zero. My last paycheck that I received was a little over 20% lower than the previous one. The one that I'm supposed to get this coming Tuesday will say zero dollars on it. I have been in the agency now 13 years. That means this is the third shutdown that I've been through. I am sick and tired of being used as a political pawn, regardless of what side of the aisle people are on. I don't ask who's on the airplanes that I control. It doesn't matter whether I've worked President Biden or President Trump or President Obama on Air Force One. I do my job and I have to be right. 100% of the time. And if I'm not right, then you guys get to watch the president of the United States hold a press conference.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Look, Mark, I think a lot of people are feeling the frustrations and concerns you are. I just wanted to take your call. I saw you calling in. I said, I want to hear from you because, look, everyone needs aircraft control.
SPEAKER 03 :
The two top areas where people wish we could just get the payments to is military and FAA because of our transportation needs, which would then cover you, Mark.
SPEAKER 12 :
The holidays are coming.
SPEAKER 03 :
um unfortunately we know is that um these are new proposals now someone like ron johnson would want to do that because he's having to go the fa is having to go in so and then the military is having to go in and say if you are working right now you should be getting paid and that would then take care of your situation mark and all the other air traffic controllers which we realized very quickly uh when they tried to cut the size because and use more tech That you were not at the point yet where you still didn't need this full bank of F.A. folks. So, yes, you are doing very difficult jobs. I put you almost in the realm of like service, like military, because you're keeping people alive, keeping us alive. And I think people like that should be who we're focused on first. And Ron Johnson just took it a step further and said everybody who is still working. And that's not good enough for Democrats.
SPEAKER 13 :
well into that point also jordan what ron johnson's proposal would do would help people like mark who as he just said has to be right a hundred percent of the time what he doesn't need in the back of his head is what's gonna my next paycheck gonna look like and that's what these people they have to be groceries tonight a hundred percent of the time correct They now have an added stress put on them when they go to an already stressful job that is essential to the function and the infrastructure of this country. Not just leisure travel and business travel, but transportation, the logistics, the shipping of this country, everything. We have to think about that. They are putting an added stress. And what does Gary Peters' proposal do? It says, okay, you get your back pay, but that stress doesn't go away, you as an air traffic controller. You still now have to worry about the next paycheck. And you know what they're going to do, the Senate, after they vote on these today, or I'm sorry, not even vote, have unanimous consent? Go home for the weekend on Thursday. They're done. close up shop they're still getting paid and when people like Bernie Sanders are asked he said well I mean it's a good idea but I mean some of these people are younger they have families they can't afford to do that you can't ask the congress to do what we're asking the entire federal government to do how dare you suggest that and he's supposed to be the socialist And it's so quickly... He's the socialist that ended up in multi-million dollar book deals. How they forget their ideology when you're asked them to do the same thing that they want the rest of the country to do.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, listen, this ends easily by just passing the CR. The CR... It has nothing new, no new plans in it. That's why you don't hear anything from them about, oh, this is going to do this and that. Because even when they try that, it's so quickly debunked because the legislation that this is tied to already passed. And in a continuing resolution, you can't add a bunch of stuff. So the Democrats just don't want to even... give Republicans a win on a continuing resolution. That's not final. That's not like passing a final budget. This is how dedicated they are to the radical left of their party, that they think even the bureaucrats who usually vote Democrat, I think it's about 90%, they're willing to make sure, you know, to put them in pain. In harm's way because of politics, because they don't want to be outdone by the more liberal members of their party like AOC and others who they think they are all in a fight with, especially Schumer.
SPEAKER 13 :
And if you're someone like John Fetterman, who's actually speaking logically about this, what are they threatening to do? Primary him. They're about to throw him out of their party. They're going to attempt to because he thinks logically and doesn't want the people of Pennsylvania to be suffering the way it is right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
He learned what the Democrat Party was really about. You thought he was coming in as one of the most progressive guys. What he was coming in as is one of the more common sense people to represent the working class and is way more of an independent than they tried to portray him. Even sometimes the left portrayed him as this kind of activist type. Instead, he's a common sense guy. who happens to support Israel, which is the great Satan of the Democrat Party.
SPEAKER 12 :
We've got phone lines open, and we want to hear from you. We're going to give you an update also on the ACLJ. We've got some movement going on, some interesting cases. You're going to want to get involved with it as well by going to ACLJ.org, reading all the incredible content that we have available, watching all the content. It's available for free without a paywall, but only because you support financially and give generously at ACLJ.org. Welcome back to Steadkill. Phone lines are almost completely jammed. We've got one line open at 1-800-684-3110. We'll definitely take some of those calls in this segment and later on, so stay on hold. If you're on hold, we will get to you. I did want to pivot a little bit to some of the work of the ACLJ. You know, as we said, school season kind of kicked back in, and now we're honestly headed towards the back quarter. of the year in terms of your semesters. A lot of people are just back from fall break. You're going to have Christmas coming up, Thanksgiving, holidays. And with that, we know comes a lot of conversations and maybe a lot of issues at schools. And sometimes it involves the teachers. Sometimes it involves the teachers doing the right thing and being punished or reprimanded for just stating very obvious facts or promoting kindness. And that is sort of what happened here. We had a teacher who it was the morning after or of the Charlie Kirk assassination, it just came up in her class. People were talking about it. Obviously, it became something that people were addressing. And with that, they started talking about people who had been murdered, who had been assassinated for their beliefs, whether it was their political beliefs or their religious beliefs or whatever it may be.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and this teacher was actually teaching curriculum that was approved by the, by the school board, by the, all of this entire curriculum was approved because this was on this day, it's an eighth grade history teacher in Hawaii. Federally funded schools, schools that receive federal funds have to teach about the constitution on constitution day. That's a part of the federal law. So this was a curriculum talking about the Bill of Rights that had been approved to be taught. And they were talking about the First Amendment and talking about free speech. And the teacher was talking about how there is a difference between what is protected speech and not protected speech. A student raised.
SPEAKER 12 :
This wasn't even a very controversial conversation.
SPEAKER 13 :
It wasn't even about controversy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think we should tell people how it went down. She talked about that, one, even hate speech on Constitution Day, which she says is protected to an extent. We don't have laws against hate speech like other countries. And that it's protected to an extent before it becomes incitement. Incitement's not. But again, we're talking to kids here. And it prompted a student... Not the teacher. A student then raised their hand and referenced Charlie Kirk being killed for freedom of speech, for talking. And then the teacher just asked students to name other figures in American history.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and somewhat pivoting. Right. Actually, pivoting to history. Pivoting to history. So brought up JFK. Didn't have a discussion about him. Brought up Martin Luther King Jr. Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln. So they're having conversations. And in that conversation, someone mentioned the attempted assassination of President Trump, a student. And another student responded with something to the effect of, well, that wouldn't have been such a bad thing. And of course, that's an abhorrent thing to say about anyone that you hoped that assassination. Clearly, I'm sure we can know where that student's parents are politically. And the teacher's response... was just to, again, de-escalate the situation.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can't call for someone to die. That's not hate speech. That's what I was talking about before.
SPEAKER 12 :
We don't want anyone to be killed for their speech. And here's why. And gave what appears to be a very nuanced... bipartisan not a political speech by any means a teacher who just doesn't want to really engage in bring it up on their own she did not bring this teacher did not bring this on herself so here's what happens the school has a meeting with the social studies department
SPEAKER 13 :
And in front of everybody says that there have been some incidents in certain classes that will be addressed. But teachers are not allowed to discuss, quote, controversial issues. And if that is brought up by a student, it must be shut down. now then later the teacher was called into a one-on-one meeting with the administration and the vice principal told the parent or told the the teacher that a parent of a student who wasn't even in the class called to complain and made it all about charlie kirk not about the entire discussion and and the things that were said even about president trump so then
SPEAKER 12 :
Which was really the moment of moving on the conversation and having a discussion was actually about a student responding that it wouldn't have been bad for President Trump to have been assassinated. And clearly she or he was deciding to end this conversation and just say, no, that's not how we do things here in America.
SPEAKER 13 :
So the teacher gets a summary of the conference memo stating what the issue is, a reprimand placed into their file. And that if controversial issues arise spontaneously without administration approval and parent notification, discussion must be put to a stop immediately. Failure to comply with the above directives may result in disciplinary action. So this is silencing free speech. It's silencing academic freedom. And we are not going to let this go through. We have now sent a demand letter to the Department of Education in Hawaii that this be removed from the teacher's file. that they support and promote the First Amendment and the freedoms that are here. But there are so many constitutional violations here, Jordan, that they are the chilling effect on free speech. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 12 :
It also just doesn't feel all that controversial. It's not all that controversial that the news of the day is going to come up. And as a teacher, you have to know how to present the, you know, at least to respond appropriately. And what I like about this case, and sometimes, you know, you have teachers that go rogue and do teach things that I think are very inappropriate. was this teacher really did the best they could to settle down the situation and move forward. But because, likely, it had to do with President Trump or Charlie Kirk or conservative-leaning people. What was she supposed to do then? She did pivot. Yeah, no, they pivoted. As teachers, they pivoted. And... Exactly. Even the demand was kind of what was meant, but that wasn't good enough, and that is clearly because of the topic.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it's also, it's unconstitutionally vague, the directive, saying if something arises that's controversial, how subjective is that right there, Jordan? Just saying, I mean, you can't even, you can't talk about the American Revolution, I mean, or anything in American history.
SPEAKER 03 :
Slavery in America, the founding of our country. Because it could be deemed, Controversial. The protests for women's right to vote, the Constitution, the three-fifths provision. I mean, all these things that you should be learning about in history class as you go up in age could be deemed controversial ten different ways. Our history itself... has controversies. It's not, as our founding fathers knew, we're not perfect. We're going to strive to be the best we can be as a country in the world. And I think we are, but that means always striving towards getting better and trying to pursue happiness, never really reaching full happiness, but pursuing happiness as a goal instead of pursuing just power and government strength. But this idea, again, of just these schools going overboard, What will happen is we'll just have no history taught. Is that what they want? I mean, that's what kind of has happened before. Except for America's bad.
SPEAKER 12 :
Remember that happened a few years ago where during COVID, it was like history classes got put on pause in Chicago because they were like, we don't know what kind of history is being taught here. With that being said, the ACLJ doesn't. stop and what is next is what is important which is of course we are representing this teacher at zero cost to them because people like you donate and support and that's great because you never know when you're going to need it yourself because likely this teacher would not be able to afford especially the legal minds that we have here when you're able to be represented by the best of the best but jordan i guess we could say what that next step
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so what we're doing is they have a November 6th deadline to reply to our demand letter that says you remove the memo and that teachers, confirmation that teachers will not be forced to silence students during approved lessons and that instruction on constitutional rights will not be deemed controversial. So they can avoid a lawsuit. Two weeks. They have until November 6th. After that, we'll decide whether to file a formal complaint with the U.S. Department of Education, Office of Civil Rights, if they want to take it to the Trump DOE. Yeah, bring it on. Bring that on.
SPEAKER 12 :
Bring it on. With that, we want you to support the work of the ACLJ. We have a second half hour coming up. Get it on however you get your live broadcast. ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, whatever it may be. Find us there or later archived. But right now, this is the time to stand up for free speech and for religious liberty. And you can do that, be a part of the team, become an ACLJ supporter, an ACLJ monthly champion right now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Seculo.
SPEAKER 12 :
Welcome back to Seculo. Second half hour coming up. In the next segment, we're going to head over to ACLJ Jerusalem. We're going to get an update on what's going on in Israel and some of our cases involving students who are having issues with anti-Semitism on campus. We're going to have an update on that.
SPEAKER 13 :
We have an interesting update coming through. This is from Jake Sherman, Punchbowl News, longtime DC reporter, but that House Democrats are calling their members back to DC next week and that they are holding an in-person caucus meeting on Tuesday and events Wednesday. Now, this could be a sign that maybe there's some sort of breakthrough between Senate leadership and that maybe they've got a way forward on the shutdown. Or it could mean that they're going to come forward and have some sort of posturing. They think they have a next wave of a PR campaign.
SPEAKER 03 :
But it is very interesting to call the House back. Because the House has already passed this. All they would be doing is maybe introducing... additional terms this legislation that right likely republicans would oppose so again logan what they're trying to do through through today's actions uh which we are talking about how ridiculous that is we'll back pay you until today and then uh we'll have to go through this again so i've shut down all the time is they the shutdown has turned on them it did not turn on the president it turned on congress it turned on the dims because people realized They were the holdouts to passing just a really straightforward spending bill to keep the government open. And so now they're going to look like they're going to do some work by proposing some items, I believe, that won't go through it because they wouldn't need to come back on their own. Unless it's Republicans coming back, too, because they think the Senate is going to send something back. So that's what we have to watch for. Are Republicans going to be back because they think the Senate is going to be sending something back with a few amendments that they have to then pass?
SPEAKER 13 :
What I would almost look at also, Jordan, is that this is a moment for Hakeem Jeffries, who's had not the greatest rollout with this of trying to blame the Republicans. He's the one that said, you know, we need Donald Trump to negotiate this out. Really kind of it flew in the face of their no King's Day messaging. But I am kind of with you. I think it's going to be now they're going to try to say, look. The entire Democrat caucus is here working. Where are the Republicans? Well, the answer to that is many Republicans are in their district trying to help people in their district navigate the shutdown. You've seen a lot of stories of that. And when there's no business to move forward in the House, then there isn't necessarily a reason for the House to be there because they actually did their job. They passed the clean CR and it's in the hands of the Senate at this point. So Washington itself at least legislatively, is kind of in a holding pattern because of the Senate.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we've got two minutes in this segment. I would like to take one call really quick because I don't want to miss downhill too long. Let's go to David. Let's try to settle some things for people. David in Nevada who is watching on the Salem News Channel. It's a great place to watch us live. David, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I would like to know, you know, because you guys mentioned about the military and the air traffic controllers and Social Security. Am I going to lose my Social Security? I've been working since I was 14. David, that's why I wanted to take.
SPEAKER 03 :
you because I wanted to clear it up to everybody if you are receiving a social security check you will be receiving that social security check timing shouldn't be affected because the postal service is fully they have their own fund that's why it's a public private partnership so they're able to keep working and you're going to get your social security check so anybody who tells you that that's not the case is lying and they are doing it for political purposes trying to scare you or to scam you so be careful and watch out for scams as well for people that try to say like hey we will uh we'll loan you we'll loan you your what you'd get in social security if you didn't give us 20 back
SPEAKER 12 :
That is why I wanted to take your call, David, so early, because I wanted to put some people at ease. But also, if you're getting Social Security and you're on it, you're getting that check the same you would as before. But keep your eyes open for scammers, because this is when they thrive. So not that we give that kind of advice typically on the show, but I've seen it happen so many times. So, David, thank you for calling. Thank you for watching on the Salem News Channel. It's a great place to watch our show. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We get back. We are going to head over to ACLJ Jerusalem with Jeff Balaban, who was on yesterday talking about what's going on in Israel. But today we have an update of what happened here in America, which is a student who was suffering from anti-Semitism, the rise of anti-Semitism on college campuses. And we got some great results. That's because people like you support the ACLJ. We're going to talk about that coming up. And we have some more updates in just a moment. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you, and I want to hear from you in the next segment. We're going to take as many calls as we can, so go ahead and get on hold at 1-800-684-3110. Jeff Balbon, head of ACLJ Jerusalem, is joining us now. And though you're in Jerusalem, we actually need to talk about something that's happening over here on the stateside. Will, why don't you set us up a little bit, and then we'll kick it over to Jeff.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. Jeff, as we've long done here at the ACLJ, we've tried and fought successfully for Jewish students that were facing anti-Semitism on campuses here in the United States. And this is a case that we talked about a while back, but that this was at New York Law School where a Jewish student. came to the ACLJ, and we represented her through a formal complaint process about some of the posts by various anti-Israel and pro-Hamas groups on campus. Give us a little bit of background of what we did here at New York Law School.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. So a student came to us, and let me say at the outset that There are many, many stories coming from this school as well as other schools. So this is just one student who had the courage and the foresight to call us up and ask if we could get involved. We heard out all of the situation, and then we brought it to the law school's attention. And this is after years of students trying to get the attention of the law school, especially after October 7th, when things got worse and worse. uh... would it be in commonplace at new york law school at the mother's place in other schools of the university uh... for students to come into class to be surrounded by other students wearing keffiyeh the symbol of of uh... show support for the come on to murderers uh... and and co and and global i'd be provided which means to bring the virus to america itself and they were terrified and the school didn't react to it and wanted to react uh... and the new post that went out publicly and some of them seem to have the school's imprimatur and uh... and so we brought this to the school's attention there are many other complaints honestly i'm not going to get into all of it uh... and we talk about some of it on the aclj website but uh... the school launched an investigation because they understood they had to take us seriously And I would say that the investigators that they retained actually did take the investigation seriously. The result was, after a prolonged investigation, that action was taken that will not help a student who's already graduated, but thanks to her bravery, it will help other students at New York Law School now and in the future. There were mandates issued to some of these very anti-Semitic groups that if they don't take down certain posts and they don't change certain behaviors... They would be taken away. They would lose their rights at the school. The students might be excluded from the school because of this. And basically, I would say this is a major victory. In fact, they said certain things, even if it's protected free speech, we understand the universities limit speech all the time. You can't say negative things about any particular group based on, or supposedly shouldn't be based on religion or race or national origin, and yet it happens routinely now about Jews at universities. And they're threatened, and they feel terrified. And so there are things that seemed i'll i'll be honest with the four things that the school i still feel got away with because you can't prove intent on certain things but some very important major forward-looking steps were taken and i think the school is clearly unnoticed now and this will result in a better environment god willing in the future at the school uh... and especially the fact that they acknowledge that even things that might be protected technically if sue that because of free speech still would never be accepted if it happened to any other religious or ethnic minority. And therefore, they realized it was inconsistent with the way other students were treated, and they decided on a foregoing basis to not allow that anymore.
SPEAKER 12 :
Jeff, I think that's a great update, and that's something our audience needs to hear. And it's something also that other students need to hear, that if this is happening, you can get the ACLJ to work. And look, I guess the positive and the negative to this is, of course, as you said, it won't affect the student who had this happen to them, but it will. And it's why it's important. And it's honestly even one of the options of why we're able to do this at no cost and why it's really great for us to be able to do that at no cost is because what it does is it opens up that door to have these, you know, not just conversations, but it can get hostile, it can get heated. But the results... can be everlasting. Results that don't just help the one student that had this happen to. Of course, we know it happened to more than one, but the one student we represented. These are big consequences for these schools to take notice, and it can have ripple effects throughout academia.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think our students, our clients, our students, I think they're brave. I think they recognize. And we're careful. We explain to them that it could have consequences to their careers in the schools, and yet they want to move forward with it. They're very brave, and I'm very proud of them, and it does make a difference. And, you know, she knows that she made a difference to other students as well, and that's very important to her as well. And so this, I have to say, this I consider a very significant victory because the law school really is making some changes, but I also think that we are going to keep on monitoring it, and other students at the law school now know also to talk to us as things are occurring, and we will be watching the situation.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I think, Jeff, that's also the point as well. We talk about our clients, and I'm glad you reiterated that point, how brave it is for an individual that can face repercussions from the institution, that can have social repercussions that can come forward, that they have the courage. They are the heroes in this story. They are the ones that see injustice and they know they want to fight it. And they come to the ACLJ for us to fight alongside them. And they should be proud of themselves that they have the courage to stand up for what's right. to know where to go, to get the resources and the backbone that the ACLJ has to fight with them so that they can make a difference, not just in their lives, but for every other student at that law school. When we talk about even in high schools, in middle schools across this country, those students that have the courage even sometimes at a young age to stand up for what's right we our attorneys talk with their parents and with them about the real ramifications of it and when they have the courage to move forward that the heroes in the story are the clients and i just want to reiterate what you were saying jeff the courage of those clients to come forward when they go to aclj.org help and they get involved and they fight for what's right that is something to be proud of and the re the ramifications down the road are so great for Anyone else that could be facing that same type of discrimination going forward?
SPEAKER 05 :
A hundred percent. And, you know, we're the American Center for Law and Justice. And the law, look, let's face it, the law is limited in righteousness and justice. But I think that, thank God, we're able to use the law to really push back against injustice. And I think that we really did. move forward here in New York Law School, and we will continue to do this with other schools as well. And even right now, there are other cases that we're dealing with, and there are other students at this law school, because of this case, who have come forward. We haven't discussed this internally yet, but right now, through this student who have come forward, there may be other allegations of other things that have happened because of this at the same law school that are now coming to our attention.
SPEAKER 12 :
Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. Of course, our work in the ACLJ team, whether that is in New York, whether that's in Jerusalem, wherever you may need to do what you need to do. And of course, across academia, we appreciate it. And thank you for calling in. I know it's a busy time right now and we're having some connection potential issues. So I'm going to let you go from there, Jeff. I did want to go ahead and also pivot off real quick. And move a little bit back to the talk of the government shutdown. We've had one call that's been a whole about half an hour. And again, it's another one of these situations where people are calling in with their frustrations. And I want to make sure that they're heard. Cheryl in Indiana is watching on Facebook. Cheryl, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. I just called to shine a light on a group of people that are basically being ignored during this shutdown. And that is the Federal Bureau of Prisons. My daughter has to go to work every day with dangerous criminals and she's not getting paid. And my suggestion is maybe Congress would like to trade places with them.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I mean, obviously, that is the conversation that's happening a lot of people saying, yeah, they're playing games, it feels like, with a lot of people's future.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know if your daughter has the federal prison system, but even some federal prison systems, they contract out the actual employees or certain employees there. But government contractors also aren't getting paid right now. And those big companies, and that might be one that employs your daughter, they're those big companies are used to this and then, and so they know how to get through it. It's their, it's their employees that have the tougher time. It's not the companies that get the giant contracts. They know it's coming back in a couple of months. It's the employees themselves. So yes, after a few weeks of this, it starts to really hurt everyday people, you know, because you didn't just miss one paycheck. Now you might've missed two paychecks, especially when there's like not a lot of hope on the horizon.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and to Cheryl's point as well, just like the air traffic controllers, prison guards, people that work for the Federal Bureau of Prisons, they are already in a very high stress job and a very essential job. Why does the Senate feel like it's a good idea, these Democrats in the Senate that don't want to pass the clean CR, to say, let's add another stress to their life, like where they're going to buy groceries or how they're going to pay their mortgage or how they're going to cover basic expenses for their family while still making them do that high stress, very high risk in many cases job? But we're not going to let them get paid. They'll get back pay. It's fine. They can handle, you know, 30 days without pay. They'll get it eventually. It's ridiculous. That's all I've got to say on it, Logan.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
You hear me, right? We can hear you. All right, great. Here I go. I just want to get right to it, and thanks for everything that you do. It's like I feel like I'm in a great novel or a great movie, and I just want to fast forward or follow the pages to the end to see what happens. But meanwhile, I'm stuck in this great novel or movie, and I've been here before. It seems like for decades that we're in the same spot, in the same games, the same players are doing the same thing over and over and over again. I'm not worried about what's going to happen because I know, like with a lot of you there, you're knowledgeable what's going to kind of happen, you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
People hate these government shutdowns because, again, it has nothing to do really with policy. It has to do with... uh one political side uh party tried to inflict pain on another political party because they've got issues within their political party where harder left that's what's happened with the democrats right now so they need to look the current leadership needs to look very tough even when they're in the minority even when the legislation adds nothing new by republicans that already had passed, the House, the Senate, and would just keep the budget going so everybody gets paid, they had to take a stand and say, no, we want a trillion dollars added to this. And they're the minority party. Let's figure, they don't get to add a trillion dollars to anything.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think that's also very true. Very important to remember and to remind people that this is a continuing resolution. This isn't new appropriations. This is saying we're keeping everything at the current levels. That doesn't mean this is a 100% Republican backed bill that is all their spending priorities. It means that. it's everything in the federal government so every democrat uh supported program etc is in that as it has been from the past year this is the end of the fiscal year they need a continuing resolution to keep it going basically status quo and it's the democrats that are trying to exploit it at this most tough time because it is the end of the federal government's fiscal year to try and add things to it that is what makes it different is that it's not like republicans are getting uh reshaping government in their image by this continuing resolution it's just keeping the government open and the democrats are the ones that are trying to change it and make it an appropriations bill i think people feel like they're being used like that last caller they feel like they're they're a pawn in a game that we have not we're not even playing
SPEAKER 12 :
Because they are. That's what I mean. It's a show. It's a performative piece, the government shutdown. Because we know for non-government employees, the pain is very little. Right. The pain is public parks are closed or national monuments, those things, which is not fun. I'm not saying it's great. But for most people, that's not a daily issue they're running into. Exactly. But for the people that it does hurt, we've heard from them today, and they're on the verge of tears, saying, I've been working as an air traffic controller for 15 years of my life, and now I have a page stub that says zero, and my job is literally life or death that people take for granted because they look at it and go, oh, we're just used to it being there. And of course, it's one of those things people always want to say, you've got to limit the federal government, and we believe they do. That's one of those places you do not want to because they're not just talking about air traffic control. You got to think about all the things that are in the air, birds, you know, all the things they have to do to stop all of this so we can all fly safely. And as most of us fly without even thinking of what the air traffic controllers and the FAA is doing. But those people are literally calling into our show in tears. They're being played and they're being used and it's very sad and I really hate it. And we should be thanking them for still showing up and doing their job. And even you can maybe have a little bit more understanding for those that aren't showing up and aren't doing their job. I don't like that part of it because it is an essential need, obviously, but I understand the frustration. Let's go to Marion, ACLJ champion, gets bumped up to the front. Marion in Texas, go ahead.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I didn't even have to wait two minutes. Thank you. Yeah, I've got a solution to the problem. I think that the Republicans should go in and say that they're going to they want to pass a law that no government. I mean, no Congress people or senators are going to get paid as long as the shutdown is in effect. And then what's going to happen is there's no way that the Democrats are going to go along with that. So then the Democrat, the Republicans can say, well, we even we're willing to have our salaries shut down. And the Democrats are the ones that don't want it. So they'll be the ones in blame.
SPEAKER 12 :
Look, Mary, we had Bernie Sanders yesterday saying, because someone suggested it on The View, and he said, well, well, well, they got young families. You can't really do that. A lot of them can't do that. And, of course, not talking about all of the people who have called in today who have had all these problems and issues. And their own staff. And, of course, you do also have. some senators and some saying they are not taking their paycheck. Katie Britt, some of these who I remember have put out statements early on saying, you know what, we're not getting paid if they're not getting paid. So you know what, there are some people who are doing that. Now what that actually looks like, who knows, but they've at least made that claim. Moving on though, Marion, thanks for calling. Becky, Texas, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. If they would not pay Congress, then they would settle this thing quickly. But I'm wondering how it's going to affect, like, government retiree paychecks. Are they going to be withheld also?
SPEAKER 12 :
Let's answer that question for you, Becky. One, I think we can quickly answer, can they do any sort of, because this is the second call to come in, I know it's kind of a little tongue-in-cheek, but is there anything they could actually do in terms of stopping their payments?
SPEAKER 13 :
Congress has both. broad authority with writing legislation i don't think it violates the constitution in any way it's not like here is it's not like election day that mandated in the constitution you know they get paid on these days so i feel like they could in theory yeah it's never going to happen you're never going to get that many votes to say yeah don't pay me because their self-interest they hold above the american people
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we have two minutes. Let's go to Eddie real quick in New Mexico. We'll try to get both calls. I don't know if we'll be able to, but stay on hold either way. Eddie, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, thank you. I was wondering, why isn't it that all these people that are just out bald-faced lying about stuff, why aren't they being called out? Because, you know, when they asked Pelosi the other day why they didn't pass the clean bill, she said it's not clean.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, of course, Eddie, because it's point of view. And this is a little bit different here. I understand your thought going, well, how can they just boldface lie? Well, of course, they're saying, well, from their point of view, they're not lying. Look what we do with freedom of speech here. It's very protected. It's very hard to, especially when we're talking about nuanced politics here, to say one side is lying and one side is not. Of course, we can tell you what we believe is true, but they can also push back on that. But yeah, it is what it is. With that being said, Let's see, we got one minute. Randolph in Texas, you got like 10 seconds. Go ahead, 20 seconds.
SPEAKER 04 :
Two things. I'm a disabled veteran. My wife has no insurance whatsoever. If they do not act on this insurance thing, my wife will have no insurance, and she has a lot of issues with her medical issues. Second thing, if we keep hitting Democrats with Republicans, get ready for a civil war, because that's where we're headed. And God help us if we go there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, Randolph, that does not happen. Can we answer that question for Randolph?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think when you've got a situation there where his wife is not under his plan, which I'm not sure, I can't explain all that. Usually you would be because you take advantage of someone who had a veteran's plan. Families do that. There are some cost issues right now. Those could be solved with the continuing resolution.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so hopefully, Randolph, it does not come to that. We can obviously get this all resolved.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you might want to talk to your insurance provider about adding her.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that's a good thought. With that, it's going to wrap up today's show. We only got 10 seconds, so I'll just say, think about supporting the work of the ACLJ. Go to ACLJ.org. Take advantage of all the great free content. And, of course, that only happens because you support us. Talk to you tomorrow.