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Volition is your ability to choose. God gave us free will. With our freedom to choose, using volitional responsibility, most of the time we cause our own misery and suffering through the bad decisions we make. Wrong thinking, a human viewpoint is a self-imposed misery. Volitional responsibility applies to wrong thinking; wrong motivation; wrong decisions; and wrong or impulsive actions. “For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of that wrong for which he has done for there is no partiality with God” (Col 3:25). We can make a wrong decision based on sin, human good, and evil resulting in evil, erroneous emotions in our life, bad judgment, and false teaching. Self-induced misery and divine discipline can result. “He who sows wickedness reaps trouble and the rod of punishment will surely come” (Prov 22:8). “Occupation with the Lord is the instruction for wisdom but before honor, there must come humility” (Prov 15:33). “He who gets wisdom loves his own soul and he who cherishes understanding prospers” (Prov 19:8).
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Volitional Responsibility
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 640 aired on December 10, 2017
Good morning and welcome to the FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes I’d like to ask you to stay with me. The FLOT Line, 30 minutes of motivation, some
inspiration, a whole lot of education, and it's all designed to remind you of Biblical truths and
introduce you to a new way of studying, an in-depth way of learning God's Word. It’s all done
without any type of manipulation or even any solicitation. My job here is to verify for you and
identify for you, if I can do this, God's plan and I hope your job will be to orient and adjust to the
plan. Remember, the FLOT line stands for an invisible line of troops in your soul. It’s a new way
of thinking. It’s forming a main line of resistance that keeps the outside sources of adversity
before they ever become the inside sources of stress. That's why we always say, adversity is
inevitable, stress is optional. By learning God's unique resources, those problem-solving devices,
you are able to keep the adversity at a distance. You're able to have divine viewpoint. You're able
to maintain a relaxed mental attitude and you're able to not get stressed out over anything in your
life. That's one of the advantages of being a Christian. We have so many advantages and
sometimes we have to make a course correction in our life when we get off track and forget those
advantages. That's what I want to remind you about today, having a course correction, taking a
look at yourself and seeing some of the things that maybe we need to correct. Today I want to
talk to you about volitional responsibility.
What is volition? It's your ability to choose.
God
gave you a soul, the invisible immortal part of you and this soul has mentality. You have the
ability to think and to logic and to reason and to comprehend. You also have volition and that's a
decider, a chooser. God did not make you into a little bitty automaton or a robot.
God gave you
free will, the freedom to choose, and under the law of volitional responsibility most of the
time we cause our own misery and our own suffering.
A specific cause for suffering,
especially in believers, is that we make our own misery. About 90% of the suffering we go
through is self-induced by mismanaging our money, mismanaging our health, or mismanaging
our personal relationships. Every human being, whether a Christian or not, has to take the
responsibility for their own decisions and for their own actions in life. We need to understand
that we cannot blame other people for our misery.
We cannot blame other people if we’re
unhappy and we cannot blame other people for our suffering. We must take full
responsibility based on our own wrong decisions
related to our associations in life, our
activities in life, our motives in life, and our functions in life. Because it is inevitable that
throughout all of our life as a Christian we are going to sin. We may get into performing human
good thinking that it’s glorifying God when it's not. It's really just evil. And we may fail by
getting involved in evil. Volition is the cause for every sin, even in insanity or neurosis or
psychosis or sociopathic behavior. It's always the volition. So God states the law of volitional
responsibility in Galatians 6:7,
“Be not deceived, God cannot be mocked. Whatever a man sows,
this he will also reap.”
Under the law of volitional responsibility, everyone of us inflicts on
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ourself unbearable suffering much of the time from, for example, our personal sins. And we get
under divine discipline when we don't rebound and recover from these sins. We suffer from the
function of immoral degeneracy in our life. We suffer when we grieve the Holy Spirit and
quench the Holy Spirit and we suffer many times because we don’t have any common sense and
we make some seriously bad calls, bad judgments because we get subjective and we get arrogant.
We overestimate our own abilities or we fail to see ourselves as we really are.
Both a believer
and a nonbeliever, the disadvantaged person, have to function under the law of volitional
responsibility not only in regard to sin but also from the perspective of the laws of divine
establishment.
These are the operational laws for the entire human race within the framework of
a national entity like America. There can be intense suffering when we violate the sacredness of
life, property, privacy, by committing criminal acts and there's also suffering when we reject our
responsibilities in freedom. Many of our wrong decisions come from our own arrogance so God
seeks to protect you and me from this. He’s provided parents, police officers, pastors, coaches,
bosses, all of these are types of authority and we are to orient to this authority. You know, it's
obvious since the fall of Adam that man is essentially kind of a fool. This is proved by a
tremendous amount of suffering we experience throughout every generation in human history.
The reason is because we’re all born with handicaps. Some of them are genetic handicaps and
flaws, these are things you're born with, the tendencies you have. Some are acquired handicaps,
acquired environmental handicaps like drug addiction or alcoholism. Maybe your parents were
alcoholics and you know you're not suppose to be drinking but you do anyhow and you become
an alcoholic. That's a genetic handicap. Then we make decisions and we handicap ourselves with
our own arrogance flaws and this adds up to suffering.
We have genetic tendencies and we
have chosen tendencies, things that we choose ourselves, the acquired flaws in our life.
You
may be suffering because of a flaw, an acquired flaw, a lust for something in particular. This is
where we get into real problems. So essentially we manufacture our own problems and the result
is suffering. But wonderfully stated, God manufactures solutions and blessings in the middle of
suffering because only our God has provided a system that can turn all cursing into blessing and
this is through the rebound technique.
If we are suffering because of sin, because of evil,
because of mismanagement of our life, mismanagement of our circumstances, if we go to
the Father and we admit our sin, all suffering is turned to blessing.
The pain may continue
for a while but for a different reason, not because He's trying to discipline us, but because we are
needing to learn something. There are some ways you can make yourself miserable under the law
of volitional responsibility. It applies in several categories of your life. Things you think, the
reasons you're motivated to do certain things, the decisions that you make, and your actions.
Let’s consider this one first.
Negative or wrong thinking is self-imposed misery.
What’s
negative thinking? It's human viewpoint thinking.
The Bible clearly states in Philippians 2:5,
“Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus.”
We are to think like Christ thought, the
Bible clearly says in 1 Corinthians 2:16, the Bible is the mind of Christ. As we learn God's Word
and we acquire divine viewpoint, we begin to think correctly. We don't think wrong. Thinking
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wrong is thinking in terms of arrogance, blind arrogance and you begin to see yourself as you’re
not. You think you're something but you're not. That's having a false self-image, unrealistic self-
image and over-estimation of your ability to do something. Negative thinking includes any type
of wrong mental attitude, arrogance, any type of bitterness, any type of antagonism, things that
cause you to react in your life, things that cause you to get out of the plan of God rather than
responding by thinking divine viewpoint.
Wrong thinking leads to wrong motivation and
that's also a type of self-imposed misery in your life.
Wrong thinking, wrong motivation, and
we enter into self-imposed misery long before we make any decisions that cause a lot of
suffering. Then we get to our decisions, we make a wrong decision and this brings more misery.
Wrong decisions lead us to wrong actions. These wrong actions can be classified in one or
two ways, deliberate wrong actions or impulsive wrong actions,
which is nothing but self
gratification or self-induced misery usually based on your emotions. Let's go over this one more
time. Listen carefully.
There are several ways to make yourself miserable and the law of
volitional responsibility applies to each one of these: wrong thinking, wrong motivation,
wrong decisions, and wrong actions.
The Bible clearly says in Hosea 8:7,
“They who sow to
the wind shall reap the whirlwind.”
In Colossians 3:25,
“For he who does wrong will receive the
consequences of that wrong for which he has done for there is no partiality with God.”
There are
several categories of wrong decisions which produce this self-induced misery that I'm talking
about under the law of volitional responsibility.
The first one would be a wrong decision based
on sin.
You know what sin is. You don't need me to tell you. Sin can be something you think,
something you say, or something you do. When you make a wrong decision based on one of
these motivations to sin, to think something you shouldn't think in the form of lust, to say
something you shouldn't say in the form of lying or criticism or backbiting or slander, or to do
something you shouldn't do, the result of some actual sin like drunkenness or adultery or
fornication or stealing, these are wrong decisions based on the sin nature. And when you get
involved in this you're going to come under the hammer from God. If you are suffering today, it
may be the hammer of God disciplining you. You have to make this decision but if you think it is
true, then rebound the sin and God will turn the suffering into blessing.
Another way we suffer
is from wrong decisions based on human good. Human good is not divine good. Human
good is doing something that you think is right but you do it in the wrong way.
For example,
prayer can be human good. There's a right way to pray and a wrong way to pray. So you can pray
all you want to but if you're praying in the wrong way it’s not going to go any higher than the
ceiling. That's why I've told you this verse that says,
“If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord
will not hear me.”
Sin quenches the ministry of the Holy Spirit. Sin grieves the Holy Spirit. And
any good that you do for God while the Holy Spirit is quenched or grieved in your life is human
good. 1 Corinthians 3:11-16 calls it
“Wood, hay, or stubble.”
When you make a wrong decision
based on human good it's wood, hay, and stubble. It does you no good. You can make a wrong
decision resulting in evil in your life.
Evil is the perpetuation of Satan's plan for the
glorification of mankind.
All humanism, progressivism, anything like this is evil, this is Satan's
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genius. You know, the progressive or the humanist may say, “If we just put a chicken in
everybody's pot. If we can give everybody the same amount of money. If we could give
everybody this or that, then we wouldn’t have any more crime, no more sin. We would all be
happy.” That's not true. No one can solve the problem of the sin nature. We all have it. Even the
president has a sin nature, even a king has a sin nature, even a Catholic Pope has a sin nature.
Every man born has a sin nature and we cannot eradicate the sin nature because it's part of our
Adamic curse.
“For by one man sin came into the world, and death by sin and now death is
passed on all for all have sinned and the wages of sin is death.”
When we allow our sin nature to
get in control of our life and to promote the satanic plan of humanism, progressivism, socialism,
these are all evil. This is saying that, “If we can make everybody equal, then we’ll have a utopia
and we’ll all be in great shape,” and that is not true. Our Lord Jesus Christ said,
“You will always
have the poor with you.”
Our Lord Jesus Christ said,
“There will always be wars and rumors of
wars.”
The Lord Jesus Christ warned about this. The satanic plan is the smokescreen that leads
you to get involved in his self-vindication. He doesn't want to go to the Lake of Fire. He's been
sentenced to the Lake of Fire and he spends this time in the angelic conflict trying to vindicate
himself by means of you failing and you buying into his plan.
We can make a wrong decision
based on our sin, based on human good, based on evil resulting in evil, and we can make
wrong decisions based on erroneous emotions in our life.
It’s the worst reason to make any
decision. Emotions don't think. Emotions don't rationalize. Emotions have no common sense and
that's why when emotions get in control of the life of someone, mistakes are made, especially in
the lives of young people who think they're in love and their emotions take over and the next
thing you know we have a problem and this is true with adults as well. We cannot live by means
of our emotions.
Emotions are wonderful. I enjoy a wonderful sunset. I enjoy a wonderful
sunrise. I enjoy family time. I have so many things that my emotions appreciate but they don't
dictate, they are not designed to dictate.
Emotions will take over your life if you let them. You
have to learn to think divine viewpoint.
It doesn't say, “Let these emotions be in you that were
in Christ Jesus.” In Philippians 2:5 it says,
“Let this mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,”
so
you cannot allow erroneous emotions to control your life.
You can also make wrong decisions
based on bad judgment in your life.
That's a very common cause and really it's due to a lack of
you having any common sense, you being disoriented to life and not knowing your own
limitations. You can make wrong decisions based on lust.
Finally, you can make a wrong
decision based on some false teaching that's not true.
Self-induced misery and divine
discipline are all illustrated in the Word of God. In Proverbs 22:8,
“He who sows wickedness
reaps trouble and the rod of punishment will surely come.”
It couldn't be any clearer than this
could it? Self-induced misery causes divine discipline. Proverbs 11:22,
“As a golden ring in a
pig’s snout, so is a beautiful woman who lacks discretion,”
self-induced misery. This woman can
get so carried away with her beauty that she makes a lot of bad decisions in her mental attitude
and she brings upon herself misery. Any woman can do the same thing but with a lovely woman
it’s much more obvious because she uses her looks to appeal to those who have emotional fire
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and this can lead to terrible decisions. In Proverbs 12:13,
“In the transgression of the lips
[which
is the sin of your big mouth]
is an evil snare.”
Yes it is, it's called triple compound discipline,
Matthew 7:1-2.
“In the transgression of the lips is an evil snare, but the righteous will escape
this trouble.”
In other words every time you judge somebody, every time you malign somebody,
gossip, rundown, you are manufacturing misery for yourself. Matthew 7:1-2 says,
“Judge not
lest you be judged because of what measure you measure, it will be measured to you.”
So when
you judge or you malign an individual, whatever you’re accusing them of, that's the discipline
you will receive. God takes it off of them even if it's true and gives it to you. So it's always a
better thing to keep your mouth shut and not stick your nose in other people's business. Of course
it’s going to get chopped off by God.
In Proverbs 13:20,
“He who walks with the wise man will
be wise, but the companion of a fool will suffer misery.”
We make good and bad decisions with
regard to the people with whom we associate. Obviously, if you associate with the wrong crowd
then you’re making a decision, a volitional decision that’s going to cause you a tremendous
amount of unhappiness and suffering in your life. Why did you associate with the wrong crowd?
What was your motivation for doing this? Oh, you were trying to get someone to like you. You
were trying to have an affinity with someone. You didn't have the courage to stand alone. You
needed the support of weak people, bad, bad decision. In Proverbs 15:7,
“Better is a dish of
cabbage where love is concerned than a fatted calf
[a Châteaubriand]
and hatred with it.”
In
other words, you not only choose your food but you must choose the people that you associate
with. Bad decisions will limit future options.
There is cursing by association and there is a
blessing by association.
When you associate with criminals, when you associate with evil, you
will get discipline. Proverbs 15:33,
“Occupation with the Lord is the instruction for wisdom, but
before honor there must come humility.”
Any good decision that you make based on humility
will eventually lead to honor. Based on humility includes virtue love, it’s a problem-solving
device. We have motivational virtue, which is your personal love for God and we have
impersonal love which is functional virtue. This is you loving based on who you are not based on
who they are. If you make a good decision from humility, which is orientation to the Word of
God with the mind of Christ, and you're able to function with unconditional love, then there will
be honor. Proverbs 16:18 says,
“Pride
[or arrogance]
goes before destruction, and an arrogant
way of life goes before a fall.”
So both destruction and fall refer to self-imposed, self-induced
misery because you violated the law of volitional responsibility. Proverbs 17:1,
“Better a dry
crust with tranquility
[that's peace and quiet]
than a house full
of religion
[or
sacrifices
]
and
strife.”
“Better a dry crust with tranquility than a house full of religion and strife.”
So you can
understand this one, “tranquility, peace and quiet is better than sacrifices.” In Proverbs 17:13,
“He who returns evil for good, evil will not depart from his house.”
In other words, it will not
only affect him but it will also affect everyone associated with him.
This is compounding your
self-induced misery to include your family.
If you return evil for good, then evil will not depart
out of your house. That's revenge motivation, that’s retaliation, that’s someone treating you good
and then you sticking it to them when their back is turned and it will affect you and affect your
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whole family. Proverbs 17:20,
“A person with a perverse right lobe
[in other words a deviation
from what is right, being obstinate or petulant, being willfully wrong]
does not prosper. He
whose tongue is deceitful falls into trouble and misery,”
more self-induced misery from the law
of volitional responsibility because you can't control your tongue, you can't control what you say.
If you don't learn to control your words, you will be miserable most of your life.
Proverbs 19:8,
“He who gets wisdom loves his own soul and he who cherishes understanding prospers.”
Proverbs 19:15, there’s a lot of verses here,
“Laziness brings on a deep sleep and the shiftless
person will suffer hunger.”
Proverbs 19:16,
“He who obeys instruction guards his soul but he
who is contemptuous of his own ways will die.”
Proverbs 19:19,
“A hot tempered man must pay
the penalty. If you rescue him, you will have to do it again.”
Proverbs 20:19,
“A gossip betrays a
confidence, so avoid the person who talks too much.”
In other words, don't associate with people
that gossip or you will wind up receiving misery, it's cursing by association. In Proverbs 21:19,
“Better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging woman.”
In other words,
making a wrong decision in choosing your marriage partner will cause you to have a life of
misery. All of these verses are always there to remind you what God has said about self-induced
misery. In Proverbs 22:8,
“He who sows wickedness reaps trouble
[that's the law of volitional
responsibility]
and the rod of God will come to punish him.”
Proverbs 23:27,
“A prostitute is a
deep pit and a strange woman is a narrow well. Like a bandit she lies in wait and multiplies the
unfaithful among men,”
bad decision to associate with a prostitute.
The Bible is clear, the law of
volitional responsibility and the law of divine punitive action.
That’s the first time I said this,
listen, the law of divine punitive action.
The first one, under volitional responsibility, we hurt
ourselves and in the second one, the law of divine punitive action, God brings us discipline.
There are three items in the procedure of dealing with problems. You must recognize your
problem, your problem is sinning after you got saved. You must utilize a solution which is the
rebound technique, problem-solving device number one.
“If we confess our sins He is faithful
and just to forgive us.”
And you must develop the 10 problem-solving devices including a
personal sense of destiny and personal love for the Father and then you can share the happiness
of God and be occupied with Christ
.
If the emphasis for God doesn't have the priority in your
life, then all your interactions with people will constantly put you out of fellowship and you'll
constantly be making bad decisions. Every bad decision you make, motivated from your sin
nature, comes under the law of volitional responsibility and divine punitive action. Did you hear
me?
Divine punitive action - God doesn't look forward to disciplining you, but He will, and
maybe that's what's going on in your life right now.
You must choose, you must decide, it's up
to you. I’ve made it clear, I hope you’ve understood. Until next week this is your host Rick
Hughes saying thank you for listening to the FLOT Line
In this episode, Gallagher dives into the heart of Washington D.C.'s political pulse with updates on TikTok's looming shutdown and the inauguration preparations for President Trump. Listener reactions provide a spectrum of opinions on government intervention in digital platforms. Amidst these discussions, enjoy light-hearted banter about braving the cold for the inaugural celebrations and the team’s commitment to engaging audiences through live YouTube updates.
SPEAKER 05 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
SPEAKER 02 :
As we walk into the studio, some breaking news out of Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER 05 :
Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 02 :
The Supreme Court has upheld the banning of TikTok in the United States of America. It's fascinating to me because I don't know how this is even going to work. But nonetheless, the United States Supreme Court has upheld the federal law that would ban the Chinese-owned social media platform TikTok. Two days before this is slated to take effect. Now, the caveat is, unless sold. So somebody's got to buy it in order to prevent it from being shut down. So we're going to see how this all plays out because President Trump is on record as having pivoted a little bit. I think he initially agreed with the attempt to ban TikTok in the United States, but he has since come around and has changed his position and supports TikTok. Look, I'm thinking about all the video clips I see all the time on social media. Ninety percent of it comes through TikTok. You see ads for TikTok now. You may even hear ads for TikTok on my show. I don't really have any hand in that. I don't have a say in that. People are always concerned about China's influence and access to our data. That cow's out of the barn. I don't think that they're going to infiltrate the United States via TikTok, but many people do. And I don't know how this is going to work. Seems kind of crazy to me. And I'm going to still predict that somehow TikTok will be saved. If Trump wants TikTok to survive, he's got the richest man in the world by his side, Elon Musk. And Elon could buy TikTok. So I think something like that might happen, but time will tell. But again, breaking news, the Supreme Court has ruled that TikTok is to shut down as scheduled unless it is sold. Meanwhile, it's Friday, January 17th. After the show, we're off to Washington, D.C. to cover President Trump's inauguration. And what an incredible... year we've had and we're kicking off a year in a major way now joey hudson who is the uh... longtime family friend and team member of team gallagher he's the direct executive director of gallagher's heroes the fallen officer fund he happens to be my business manager lifelong friend and a frequent guest host here on the mike gallagher show and joey i drag you everywhere i can i think i've talked you into going to alaska with us this august I think next year we'll go to the Black Hole of Calcutta. We'll see if you can come along. But you're off to Washington with us. You're bringing along your bride, Peg. And you guys are going to be shivering Monday morning on the steps of the Capitol because, Joey, it's going to be cold.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's going to be bitter cold. The forecast is that this probably could be the coldest inauguration in history. It was pretty cold back in 1985 with President Reagan. It got down into the low 20s then. And, in fact, they canceled the parade for Reagan. Now, I wonder if it is this bitter cold on Monday. Will Trump do the parade?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I think Ivanka has said he will. In fact, I think the early word was the whole family is going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. You know where I go right away instinctively. I hope he's safe. I don't want anything to happen to this guy. They can't harm one hair on his head. And I've been thinking a lot about this, Joey, and I'm in this grateful mood. I mean, did you ever have any moments in 2024 where you thought that the unthinkable was going to happen and Kamala could win?
SPEAKER 08 :
I had plenty of those moments. I didn't want to think about it, but yes, I mean, with everything that they were throwing at Donald Trump, you just think, how much longer can the man do this? You know, my fear was that they were going to end up putting him in jail, literally, and they tried everything they could. But, you know, we're here now. He's going to be our next president on Monday, and we're going to be there to witness it. So everything is good. 2025 is off to a good start.
SPEAKER 02 :
It sure is, and you and I have got some big plans beginning Sunday. We're going to go to a couple of the inaugural balls, the South Carolina ball. Of course, you have a huge larger-than-life presence in South Carolina, and you've got great connections. Nobody knows South Carolina politics like Joey Hudson. And so thanks to you, we got the invite to go to the Palmetto Ball at the Smithsonian at the Portrait Gallery. Then we're going to head over to the Charlie Kirk Turning Point USA Ball. We're going to get to see the village people in person, Joey.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're going to do YMCA. Oh, I'll tell you, that's just going to be amazing. Have you been practicing your dance?
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm ready. I'm ready. Look, I could be... How many are there? Four of them? I'll be the second tenor to add to the... Now, people have been saying, you guys have got to chronicle this. You guys have to show for us stay connected. And Christian and I earlier talked about making sure we utilize our YouTube channel, right? Is that the best way for us to do clips that we can, and maybe even, can we go live on YouTube? We can. Sure, we can go live. Yes. Maybe we plan to do that. Well, you know all that stuff better than I do, but why not? Let's do it. So make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel. Make sure you subscribe. You go to YouTube. Don't get the congressman and me mixed up. It's the talk show host. It's the big mouth talk show host, not the rhino congressman, ex-congressman from Wisconsin. But I can't wait. We'll stay in contact with our audience that way beginning Sunday. So if you're out and about or you're on your computer, Sunday night and Monday, the inauguration. So subscribe to the Mike Gallagher Show YouTube channel and make sure you hit the notifications. because we'll post new videos when we go to the balls and make these different stops, and everybody will be notified when there's a new video coming in. So subscribe to the Mike Gallagher Show on YouTube. And then, Joey, you're going to be doing reports from the Capitol Steps and the inauguration site itself on Monday, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's the plan. I will be out in the cold. But, you know, I'm excited about it. I don't care how cold it is. Nothing is going to keep me from seeing Donald Trump sworn in. So, yeah, we're going to give you live reports throughout the morning. We'll get there early to get the response from people who are going to be out standing in line. You know, we're told that people will start around 5 a.m. Monday morning getting in line to get in. So, yeah, we're going to keep you informed.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and look, if anybody doubts how I'm so capable of doing sacrifices for my team, look at me. I'm going to have to be in a warm, toasty studio anchoring the coverage on Monday. I will not be out in the frigid, you know, single-digit temperatures with the winds whipping up. I'm going to have to – look, I got shut out. I mean, I couldn't believe it. I got overruled, and you're making me be in the studio because you want to get all the glory and actually go to Trump's inauguration in person. How dare you? How dare you?
SPEAKER 08 :
You're taking one for the team like you always do, Mike Gallagher, and you're going to stay back in the nice, warm, toasty studio, as you say.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's what I do. So I'll be in our D.C. headquarters, and you'll be out there in the cold with Peg. Let me guess. You've got electric vests. You guys have hand warmers that are turned on. I mean, you're going to wind up getting arrested because they're going to think you're a bad guy with wires coming out of your coat.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, Peg and I were just talking about that because we had our electric vest out, and it has a battery in it and everything. And we were thinking, will Secret Service let us through? Wait a minute.
SPEAKER 02 :
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
SPEAKER 08 :
You really do have an electric vest? We really do have a vest that has a battery pack that you charge. But I'm not sure how that's going to go with Secret Service. I mean, it's a deal. It's a battery pack about the size of a small book.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, that's it. You're going to get arrested. You're going to wind up. You're going to be like that state senator in Georgia. They're going to throw you to the ground, put you in handcuffs, and I'm going to have to bail you out. And I can't bail you out because I've got to be on the air in the warm, toasty studios in D.C. I've got to anchor our inauguration coverage. So, look, you get arrested, buddy. You're on your own.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we'll just be sure that the camera is rolling when it happens. Will you cut to me live if that happens?
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I will. YouTube channel. There it is. That's the perfect use of the Mike Gallagher Show YouTube channel. Joey, heading off to the Who Scout. Make sure you put up a good fight. Oh, I will. I'll tell them who I work for. Tell them, don't you know who I am? I'm with Mike Gallagher. Yeah, right. That'll get you 20 more years. All right, Joey, stay warm, safe travels. The next time I see you will be in our nation's capital. And it is incredible. I mean, I can't believe we're here after the year we had. See you there, Joey. Keep fighting the good fight. Joey Hudson, can you believe it? I'm so happy right now. I'm so relieved. We worked hard in 2024. We worked real hard. Let's face it. We all did. And I can't get the phrase, we did it, out of my head. We just can't get that phrase out of our brain. I'm so thrilled and honored and just gratified beyond belief. I'll bet you are too. Let's get back to this big breaking story. The Supreme Court saying that TikTok can be banned in the U.S. Look, I admit I'm not a big purveyor of TikTok, but I'll tell you something. Plenty of people are. Guarantee you many, many people are. watching and listening to this show right now, or maybe you watch the show or clips or whatever through various, you know, messages on TikTok. Give me a break. How do you ban something like TikTok? How do you shut that down? How is this going to work? And are you okay with it? Are you okay with it? I mean, here's a text from Nevada, from Las Vegas. Hey, put a sock in TikTok pronto. Good. Glad it's gone. You agree with that? Supreme Court says TikTok's ban can proceed. Give me your reaction to it. Let's do a lightning round of phone calls in the Relief Factor studios. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Hope you join us. Feeling better when I'm feeling no pain.
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Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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The Supreme Court has ruled that TikTok is to shut down as scheduled Sunday unless it is sold. Now, that's the caveat that I think could lead to a buyer like Elon Musk. Again, Trump doesn't want it sold. There are folks I know that have had enormous success. And, you know, if you believe the commercials that you see and hear about it, TikTok is also used as a force for good. Now, I know about the existential threat that China poses to us. I appreciate the concern we have. You want to get serious about China? Why don't we block them from buying all the land they're buying? You want to get serious about China? Then let's talk about China. The real estate ventures and how about all the products that we have to buy? I mean, look, this is a multilayered thing. To go after a social media platform like TikTok doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Let's see what you think. We'll start in Cincinnati, Ohio, where Michael is reacting to the news. Michael, what do you think?
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Yes, thanks for picking up. I personally, I think... I'm against forcing the sale of TikTok. Okay. Now, but I think instead we should pass a law that says that if you do business with, that basically if you censor people on your platform that you should Yet you lose your what's that one law that gives them all these protections? I can't remember.
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I'm not sure. But, Michael, what I do know is that here's a text that makes a lot of sense from New Jersey. We have to make up our mind. Is China the biggest foreign threat to our country or not? If they own and control TikTok and are using it to gain control over us, we need to block it. Well, OK, this is what's strange. We don't all have TikTok. Not everybody subscribes to TikTok. Not everybody has the app. You believe that China's a threat and you don't want them spying on you? Well, for crying out loud, don't engage in TikTok. I mean, there's some basics here that I don't quite understand. Here's William. William, you're up. What do you think about the Supreme Court going along with this TikTok ban?
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mike thanks for taking my call i'm totally against it i think that's a total overreach of government power they're just trying to censor and and just push the the democratic you know way of thinking i'm actually a content creator on tick tock and i've had a very successful uh reign since 2020 there and all everything that i publish is all fun theme park related just great fun things to do and i it's been a good avenue for uh for people to reach out and and just You know, have a good time. And every third video I see is either Charlie Kirk. or J.D. Vance, and it's just the Democrats. They're just trying to hush that, and I totally disagree.
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Thank you for taking my call. I appreciate it. One open line, 800-655-MIKE. We'll continue. Let's get your reaction to all of this. We've got a bunch of breaking news, and not to bury the lead, we're off to Washington, D.C. after the show to cover the inauguration Monday, and we'll have every minute of it on this show. You're not going to miss a word here on the Mike Gallagher Show. Hope you join us.
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But you just don't ban a social media app and take... Again, that joy and happiness away from people who have the option of taking the risk or not. The risk is, of course, whether China is spying on you. You don't want China to spy on you? Don't get the app. Don't engage. Don't give them the opportunity. You know, somebody texted me about the way the world has changed since 9-11. And this texter is so right. So many of our freedoms as a country have just been arbitrarily removed. And I truly believe that Trump's return restores many of those freedoms. The texter said, we've got TSA going through our suitcases, our bags. How intrusive. We're learning how bad the communist Chinese really are. The texture says, I agree with you, Mike, we should ban Chinese land purchases in this country. We're starting to ban Chinese electric vehicles from coming into this country. Things take time. But it is not a question of just turning TikTok off from not using it. If it's a national security issue, then we need to ban it. I'm not in favor of banning things, he said. But to stay safe in the post 9-11 America, we have to ban TikTok. Do we? Really? Hey, Michael, don't get on TikTok. You know, I saw the texter say that we've lost so many of our freedoms. You don't have the choice? What if you choose to go visit China? No, no, no, can't go to China. What if you choose to buy a Chinese product? What if you choose to sell your apartment building to a Chinese buyer? I mean, how far down this rabbit hole do we go? I don't know. All I know is nothing can shatter my great mood. And one of the interesting aspects of the inauguration is going to be who gets to go, who's not going. And I get it. Trump didn't go to Biden's inauguration. People are... kind of murmuring about Jill Biden offering to have the traditional First Lady tea with Melania, and Melania turned Jill Biden down. Michelle Obama isn't going to the inauguration. I saw a list last night of about 13 or 14 Democrats, three of them I didn't even recognize. Who cares? Go, don't go. You don't want to show up, don't show up. If Michelle Obama doesn't want to go to the inauguration, who cares? I mean, I remember her saying that she finally was proud of her country, but only when her husband ran for president. It was the first time she'd been proud of her country. Remember that clip from Michelle Obama? Now, she's clearly tacky and classless by not attending Jimmy Carter's funeral, by pouting and staying home and not going to Trump's inauguration. But look, I get it. She doesn't like him. Okay, don't go. Stay home. Good for you. You really showed him. You're going to make Barack go. He's going to, you know, get all dressed up. He's going to the funeral of a former president. He's going to the inauguration of the future president. But you're going to stay home. Okay, so be it. But then I came across a clip from Jason Whitlock. He's got a very popular podcast. He used to be a regular with Tucker Carlson all the time on Fox News. And he has quite the eyebrow-raising take on Michelle Obama's decision to stay home. I wanted to play it for you and get your reaction.
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I know Michelle Obama allegedly is married, but she ain't answering to no man. Are you kidding me? What kind of household is Barack Obama running where, baby, I got to get dressed up, fly to Georgia, and go to this funeral for Jimmy Carter, a former president? I ain't going. And Barack's good with that. He's not running that household. She is.
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When you're a man leading a marriage and leading your household, you're following God and your partner with a woman who's following you as you follow God. Oh, baby, we got a funeral. We got to go where we got to pay respects to a former U.S. president. And every other president is going to be there with his wife, with his bottom chick. And you stand at home. You don't make this kind of fool out of me. It's not going to happen. George Bush going to be there with his wife. Bill Clinton's going to be there with his wife. Donald Trump's going to be there with his wife. I'm going to be there with mine. Not Barack. Cause he ain't in charge. And that's the message that's being sent to black women. You're in charge. You don't have to pay respects to tradition, protocols, expectations. You write the rules.
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Wow. Now, I will share with you that there's one member of my team who practically slumped over when he heard Jason Whitlock's comments. I think the word slumped. misogynist came up a couple of times. And he's no lefty. So, I don't know. It's a provocative thing to say. You know me. I like to tread where fools dare go. Let's dive in. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453 on this inauguration weekend. We'll be going to the balls. We're going to go to the South Carolina Palmetto Ball over at the Smithsonian Sunday night. Hope to see you there. If you're attending, we're going to go to the Charlie Kirk Turning Point USA Ball over at the Salamander Hotel. We're covering the inauguration. Joey Hudson will be in the crowd. I'll be in the studios. And we're going to bring you all of it on Monday. I'll be sharing everything I can with you on our YouTube channel. So if you want to take in some of the sights and sounds, subscribe to our YouTube channel. Make sure you hit the notification button so when we post a new video, you'll be able to take part. I'm excited about all that. Joey's all revved up, ready to go. We'll get all of our gear out. So follow us on YouTube and subscribe and hit the notification button. Just find the Mike Gallagher Show YouTube page. In the meantime, give me your reaction to what you just heard from Jason Whitlock. 800, is he right? Is it a biblical thing? Is Michelle Obama teaching black women how to be disrespectful and how to not follow any protocols? What do you make of what Jason Whitlock just said? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Call or text, one phone number does it all, 800-655-6453. Christmas means giving, and for my money, Christmas means MyPillow. Make it a MyPillow Christmas for somebody on your list because the Christmas extravaganza is well underway. Because a big box retailer canceled an order, Mike Lindell has thousands of MyPillows to move. Well, he wants to pass the savings on to you, so check out this offer. You can order a standard classic MyPillow, and it's normally $49.98 for just $45. 1488 with promo code mike g limit of 10 this is the pillow that started it all the pillow that never goes flat stays nice and cool all through the night you can throw it in the washer in the dryer as often as you want you can get a classic standard my pillow for 1488 with promo code mike g a queen size normally 69.98 you'll get it for just 1888 with promo code mike g or a king size Normally $79.98. You can order it for $19.88 apiece. Limit $10, please, during Mike's incredible Christmas extravaganza from MyPillow.com. Look, if you haven't been to the site in a while, you can get all your Christmas shopping done by going to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Specials Square. Click on that box, and then with any order you place, enter the promo code MikeG, and you'll save big. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. It's the Christmas extravaganza sale going on right now at MyPillow.
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Mike Gallagher.
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A lot of text messages pouring in over the Jason Whitlock remarks about Michelle Obama boycotting the inauguration in New York City. Here's one. Guys, hang on. What's happening? Mute, guys. What are you pointing at? What's going on? Oh, what are we? Okay, sorry. We had a little bit of a train wreck there. Let me take two. Play the bumper music again. Eric, we'll start over. What the heck is going on around here?
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A lot is being said about Jason Whitlock's remarks.
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About Michelle Obama boycotting the inauguration. From New York City, Jason Whitlock is absolutely right. Typically speaking, men are to be leaders of their home with compassion, love, and strength. Unfortunately, the feminist movement has created an era of weak men. This is the whole happy wife, happy life mentality. A strong man follows God first, and a good woman should follow him. Here's a text message from Georgia directed to Eric Hansen. Hey, Eric New Jersey Hansen, he's not being misogynistic. Now, how dare you? I did not give Eric up. I didn't say his name. I did not identify Eric by name. I don't know why you're guessing that it was Eric Hansen who was surprised at Jason Whitlock's comments and somewhat offended, even though it was Eric Hansen. As a woman, there's no shame in knowing woman is the helper of man. Equally important, we all have a place, like the food chain. One piece out of whack, everything changes. A couple of other texts about the inauguration and TikTok. Florida, Tampa writes, Monday is more like the 4th of July. I'll be lighting my fireworks. And finally, from South Carolina, longtime listener and admirer, you are being obtuse on TikTok. And I assume it's just to stay in the good graces of Trump. It does not become you. Look, with all due respect, because you disagree with me doesn't mean I'm being obtuse. We have a different point of view. And I do recognize the threat that China poses. I don't agree that a TikTok ban is the way to address it. But I absolutely appreciate the concerns everybody has about TikTok. But hey, South Carolina, you want to get serious? Ban Facebook. You worried about the impact Facebook has on our lives? You worried about the way Facebook interfered with the election? How about Instagram? Let's start there. I'm being obtuse? Do you think there's any real estate in South Carolina owned by the Chinese communist government? You think there's any products in your home from China? Again, for me, it's pretty simple. There's no... obtuse about it you don't want tiktok in your life don't get on tiktok not sure why that's so hard to understand sherry is in spartanburg south carolina hi sherry welcome to the mike gallagher show hi hi i just wanted to say that i'm in agreement with you at first when i heard it i thought well that's a good idea because china shouldn't have any uh place in america right but
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I agree with you because had it not been for things like TikTok or all the social media when Trump was first running, and even this time, we wouldn't know half of the truth. We wouldn't know any of the truth if it weren't for social media. That's right. The politics, Congress, they don't want you to know. So they're just trying to prevent us from knowing the truth about what's going on in our country.
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All right. Thanks, Sherry. Good to hear from you. I appreciate it. Frank's in Texas reacting to the Jason Whitlock comments, saying that Michelle Obama is sending a terrible message to black women by staying home from the inauguration and Jimmy Carter's funeral, for that matter. Hey, Frank, what did you think?
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Maybe Michelle Obama was just sick. Why read into something to why she didn't go? Anybody check on her to see if she was sick or not? Could be.
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You mean for both Jimmy? That's a long sickness. Jimmy Carter's funeral was a couple weeks ago.
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A week ago, maybe, yeah.
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Maybe they're having marital problems.
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Wow. You're going to go that deep to try to support your narrative and say they're having... Marital problems?
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I don't even know that I agree with the narrative. I don't know what the narrative is. There's a narrative that's clear. She's staying home for a reason. So you think maybe she has the flu? I don't know what she has. She could be sick. Well, my guess is she hates Trump so much she can't bear to be there Monday.
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And that's understandable. Look what she did to her kids and her husband and herself.
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Whose kids?
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To the Obama kids. Talking about the dads not born here. Uh-huh. Having people go up against them.
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Uh-huh. How about what the Democrats did to Trump going through Melania's underwear drawer? That okay at Mar-a-Lago? You all right with that, Frank? Melania posed naked. I had a feeling you were okay with that. Goodbye. Go away. Even you can't ruin my good mood. Be gone! 800-655-MIKE. Join us.
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Let's just stop and let this ruminate a little bit. Think about this. We're off to Washington, D.C. after the show to cover the inauguration of Donald J. Trump. Mark, I want to ask you a personal question. In the middle of 2024, when Trump was being convicted of 34 felonies, think about that for just a little, let that sink in. If you or I had one felony to our name, We're done. We're done. It ruins our life. How about 34? How about 34? Which, of course, the absurdity of that, taking a misdemeanor that expired due to the statute of limitations over a bookkeeping mistake and turning it into 34 felony convictions.
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And maybe not even a mistake. It was a drop-down menu where he called it a legal cost. It was a legal cost.
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So to take that and turn it into 34 felony convictions, the absurdity of that is a big reason, a big part of why he won. Of course, the assassination attempt is a big part of why he won. All of this came together. And this is a God thing. You can't ever convince most of us that God didn't have his hand in this, Mark. You know, it's been said that Trump believes that the assassination attempt was absolutely, it was God's will, of course, that that bullet didn't hit him in the head. that it would graze him. If he hadn't turned his head in that split second, how do you not think of that as divine intervention? Even his haters can't go around saying, well, this is the luckiest son of a gun who ever lived. No, this isn't luck. This is fate. This is spiritual. And I am so proud to be bundled up and headed to the tundra conditions. Oh, my gosh. This is going to be one of the coldest inaugurations on record. One of the presidents who went to the inauguration was just cold. He died. William Henry Harrison. William Henry Harrison got pneumonia.
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And it wasn't even that cold.
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It was just, it was like raining in like 38 or something. It was going to be cold. It's going to be in the teens when people are filing in. Now, look, I have to sacrifice. I got to be in a warm, toasty studio anchoring. Joey Hudson will be among the crowd.
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You know what inquiring minds want to know? What? Where you stay in.
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Well, I'm not staying where I usually stay because that hotel room – you know the hotel room where I usually stay?
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That's why – by the way, I don't need hotel name or room number. No, but I'll tell you the story. Have you priced it out and found it?
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I have. There's a hotel that I've always stayed at when I go to D.C. and I always like it. It's an older hotel, but it's very luxurious, very comfortable. It's the Ritz-Carlton in Pentagon City. And it's right across the river, really. You know, right over the bridge. And it's easy to get to. In fact, do you know why it's kind of famous? Do you know why it's notorious for a reason?
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Something happened there? What happened there?
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Yeah. Monica Lewinsky was confronted by FBI agents in that hotel. And that's where she had, like, Linda Tripp. Remember how Linda Tripp turned her in and everything? Well, that all happened at that hotel. Anyway. I like that hotel. It's comfortable. And, you know, it's not a cheap room. I mean, but, you know, thankfully I can put it on the Salem expense account. It's usually about $700 or $800 a night. Yeah, what is it now? $4,000. A night.
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$4,000 a night for a home. Is it time for my 30 cents? There's no such thing as gouging.
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Oh, really? Really? No.
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That's the marketplace. That's gouging. I mean, gouging is like criminalized to some. Well, that should be criminal. No. Oh, stop it. Stop it.
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Stop it. We're the conservatives.
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We're the libertarians. They have every right to charge that. And if somebody doesn't want it, they don't pay it.
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And I'll bet they're sold out. So, anyway. So, proves my point exactly. We're staying a little farther away, but not too far. In Baltimore. And we're going to get to go to the balls. We're going to go to a couple of inaugural balls Sunday night. It's going to be, you know, Phil Boyce and Joey and Peg Hudson and I. We're going to go off to the South Carolina Palmetto Bowl.
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Make sure you've got a black tie and boots. Got to hang with the Texans.
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I got the boots. Well, I don't have the boots, but I got the tux and I got the tie and the cumber. I got a big boy tie, too. I've got an actual tux tie that you've got to tie. It's not a clip-on. Woo!
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Do you know how to tie one of those? I do. I haven't done it in 20 years, but I do.
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I don't know how to tie it. I have no idea how to tie it. So Joey Hudson is going to have to treat me like a toddler and tie it for me. Come on. But how about the ball, the big ball, the Turning Point USA ball we're going to get to go to, thanks to Phil Boyce's connections. The actual village people are performing. Man, oh, man. They're performing. And Don Jr. and President Trump, I don't know if he's going to show up or not. I'll bet he may.
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I mean, the president and the first lady, the freshly installed president and first lady usually make the rounds. Yes. I mean, the last one I actually went to was Black Tie and Boots, the Texas ball for the first Bush inauguration. But would Trump come to the Texas one? I would think. Maybe. Would Trump come to various other ones? I don't know. It's a cool tradition.
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It's going to be Sunday night. Washington will be packed and there'll be lots of excitement and drama. His official inauguration portrait has been released and it bears a striking resemblance to his mugshot, which I love.
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He's got that glowering determination.
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With the lighting from below. It's like, hey, look, I love the phrase, dad's coming home and dad's pissed. Dad is not happy with you. He is not happy. And speaking of interesting things about the inauguration, you know Jason Whitlock, right, from his many appearances with Tucker? The Fearless podcast. Fearless podcast. He does a rant about Michelle Obama refusing to go to Trump's inauguration. Now, here's what he said. It's fascinating. I'm going to play it on the show today. And the post that he put up on X was, Michelle Obama is setting the example for black women. By missing Jimmy Carter's funeral and making a fool out of Barack, she's telling black women that they don't have to pay any respects or follow any protocols. He mocked a conversation. He did a mocking conversation between – Barack and Michelle. And it went something like this. Honey, I've got to put on a suit and tie. We've got to pay respects to Jimmy Carter. Honey, we've got to go to D.C. It's the inauguration of the 47th president. And Michelle says, I ain't going. I ain't going. I'm staying home. Honey, don't embarrass me like this. And Jason Whitlock has a whole rant. Now, he's a black man.
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I was going to say, which gives him a little bit of Teflon to be able to do this.
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Go ahead. I guess he has the latitude to do this. And he says, look, in the black community, this is a black – and he talks about a wife has a biblical – duty you know god a husband is accountable to god um a wife is accountable to her husband and god and it's basically almost a scriptural reference he makes where he says look she's making a fool out of barack obama there's a lot of rumors swirling that their marriage is trouble in paradise yeah i mean what do you what do you make that's that's the second uh hottest uh active rumor about michelle
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It is falling fast. It was 50 earlier, and just as I was coming in, it was almost down to 32 and falling.
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Okay, Bruce Simmons with us as well. Bruce, and you can verify some of what Andy's saying. I came earlier, so it was fairly nice when I got here, actually.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I felt it as well. That breeze is a bit, you could tell it has the chill in it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it's much colder next to the windows. We position all our guests next to the windows. That's so nice of you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, it's part of the service. Well, before you guys got here, it was a hot box, so it's actually finally, you know. Cooling off a tad. Well, that's nice. Thank you for changing the temperature or whatever you did when you got here because it was a little warm here before that. All right, Bruce, reverse mortgages. As we head into 2025, a new year, and who knows what's going to happen when it comes to rates and economy and a new president and all of that. I think we'll know fairly quickly, by the way, how things are going to look. I don't think Trump's going to delay much at all when he gets into office. In fact, I was reading today that he's already got 100 executive orders in. that he's already got penned and ready to go. So he's going to hit the ground running. Now, what does that mean economically speaking? I mean, who knows? I don't have a crystal ball.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's got to figure out a way to get some of those passed through Congress so that they stick after he leaves. So the next president. That's right. So it can't change.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's exactly right. And the economy is very fluid anyways, and the reason I'm asking that is because we've had you on many times in the past, and I know a little bit about the way the reverse mortgage world works, and I know that the higher the rate, the less money there is to help somebody out with when it's all said and done, correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly, and that's one of the things I'm going to be talking about soon on my radio show that I have on Legends Radio. is that expectations, because I talk to people and we can't loan them as much as they think that they should be able to get. People say, oh, well, I thought I could get 60% or 70% of the value. And no, it's not that way. We're loaning somewhere between the low 30% of the value, not equity. That's the other thing people get wrong is they think that, well, I've got $300,000 in equity and I can get 50% of that, right? No, that's not how that works.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not on a reverse mortgage, no.
SPEAKER 04 :
No. And so I need to help set expectations for people in that respect. And certainly if rates do come down, then we can loan a higher percentage. But if we can loan you enough now to eliminate your principal and interest mortgage payment so you don't have a mortgage payment, you still have to pay your taxes and insurance, but get rid of that principal and interest portion of it, even if you don't have $100,000 left over, you might only have $10,000, Do it now because there's a saying in the forward world, I don't know if your other guest has said this, where you marry the house and you date the rate. Oh, yeah, no, that's exactly right. And with a reverse mortgage, it's possible that you might be able to refinance in the future where we could loan you more money then.
SPEAKER 08 :
Kurt will say the exact same thing. He's on the traditional mortgage side, but he'll say the exact same thing. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. If you can pay off your existing mortgage, get out from under that payment. Because I've got stories from customers I talked to at the end of 22 when rates just started going up. We could loan them enough, but not quite. They couldn't get as much money left after we paid off their mortgage as they wanted. They said, I'll just wait until 2023 when the rates drop. And that still hasn't happened. We're still waiting three years later, two years later or so.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Bruce, with all the credit debt right now, I'm sure that reverse mortgages are really paying off for a lot of people. However, what do you sense in the market at this moment? Are people kind of tentative just because of the changing of the guard? You're going from one presidency to another one, totally new economic plan coming in. Are they just kind of waiting and seeing what's coming, or are they more excited about the future?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's a good question. I really don't get into that much with my clients about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, but I mean as it affects your business, as it affects people wanting to go with reverse mortgages.
SPEAKER 04 :
Generally, no. I do have one customer that he wanted to wait, and even then after the election, he's still waiting. And it's just kind of trying to get people off the schneid, you know. Right. Either make a decision one way or the other.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I've talked to, as you know, I coach other businesses and such, and I think some of just the general climate of people wanting to spend money, I don't know why, they're waiting for Monday, I guess, just to get through. I think there's so much hype at times that go around the Internet, social media and so on, where, you know, will Trump really make it in? Will there be some sort of a big revolt before that happens? And all this, it's utter nonsense because literally it is. It's utter nonsense. But yet that gets planted in somebody's mind and they want to see things come to fruition before they move forward.
SPEAKER 05 :
John Bruce, I think the climate is good. I think it's going to be very good. I'm very confident. I think it's a good time to move on deals that can benefit you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can't argue that. I think so, too. I think we're going to see better times, although I can see volatility, a lot of volatility coming up because of the changes that happen and how markets react to it. And I heard on another station on the way in, not that I don't always listen to you, but most of the time. But I forgot it was Ready Radio. That's okay. And anyways, they were saying that how there is a national or international conservative movement. wave, basically, that Trump is kind of brought in.
SPEAKER 08 :
Starting from Canada, going overseas and so on.
SPEAKER 04 :
Germany.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that could have another, to your point, Bruce, that could have an economic effect even on a worldwide basis. Again, a lot of things in flux. And I'm with Andy, though. Yeah. And I've been telling clients, I mean, I think things are going to get much better. Trump's going to do things right off the bat to get things rolling. Now, to your point, Bruce, where interest rates lie when this is all said and done, I don't have that crystal ball.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nobody does, but I don't think they're going to be coming down anytime soon. There's a 40-year cycle where from like 1940, rates were trending up until 1980 along with higher inflation. Then in 1980, they started coming down along with lower inflation. And now we're back 40 years later in 2020. They bottomed out, and now they're trending back up along with higher inflation. So some people, I've seen people that say that we're on a 40-year cycle of higher rates and higher inflation. I don't know that that's true.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't either. I have no clue.
SPEAKER 04 :
But it's all interesting. I think that if you can qualify to get out from under this payment that you have now, if that's your goal, you should do it. If you own your home free and clear.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's easy.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a great way to get it in place and get the line of credit because the line of credit has a growth rate to it. It gets larger. And the higher the interest rate is, the quicker your line of credit grows. And it's guaranteed. It's not going to be closed out if the value of your home drops. You have to continue to pay your taxes and insurance and live there and all that. But it's a way that you could... have access to money 10 years, 20 years down the road. Figure at the rates where they are now, your money will basically double in 10 years.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Good to know.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if you've got $100,000 in the line of credit, you'll have $210,000 years from now.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can find Bruce again. Go to klzradio.com. You can go to rushtoreason.com. You can call him directly, 303-467-7821. You can do it that way as well. Did I miss anything?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, that's perfect.
SPEAKER 08 :
Easiest way to do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, my website, too, is reversemortgageradio.net.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
So all of that works, and I've said this many, many times. There's a lot of misconceptions around all sorts of things, reverse mortgages being one of them, and put all that aside, talk to Bruce directly, have a one-on-one, get a cup of coffee and figure out exactly where you're at with things, or even relatives might have aunt, uncle, grandparents, whatever the case may be that might be interested in this, and they may have heard all of the horror stories and put all those aside.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's funny you say that because just yesterday I got a call from a guy that I've got an appointment with next week. His sister heard me on the radio, and she told him to call. There you go. And he called me, and it's great. Perfect.
SPEAKER 08 :
Perfect. Bruce, I appreciate you as always.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're very welcome. Are you going to stick around?
SPEAKER 04 :
I can stick around for a little bit, sure.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. John Rush. Together with Bruce Simmons. I am Andy Pate. And John. And Bruce. And Bruce. Are you ready for a movie? Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we flip-flopped these since Bruce is going to hang with us for a few minutes, and we flip-flopped these. We're going to look at the second movie first. That's fine. This is perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, why not?
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you for doing that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, you know, guys, sometimes in war, the bravest actions aren't on enemy lines but behind them. That's very true, right? I mean, that's a very dangerous place to be, behind enemy lines when you're fighting for your life. Well, let's take a look at that in number 24.
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Have you turned 25 yet? Yes. There's a chance you won't get older. Have you considered that? I can accept that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Have things that occurred during the war bothered you afterwards?
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My mind never rested and I let very little get to me. For if I'd done that, I would have been done for.
SPEAKER 13 :
There are a lot of people looking for me. And there will be more I'm inclined to believe.
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They'll do anything to find out your real identity.
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Take these with you and always carry them. You cannot let them take you alive.
SPEAKER 14 :
You have to do your job. And we will do ours. Because what happens in war is that subtle differences just disappear and things become black and white. And all at once, completely different rules apply.
SPEAKER 15 :
Who's taken whom, when, where? That is vital information you and I die with. Do you hear me?
SPEAKER 03 :
So non-violence was never something you ever considered?
SPEAKER 14 :
I lost eight of my dear friends during the resistance, and that was by order of the Germans. But how would you have reacted if your best friends were betrayed?
SPEAKER 15 :
You take him out of town, then shoot him.
SPEAKER 14 :
I believe that freedom is worth almost anything. For it's either freedom or it's death.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think the three of us can agree with that, can't we?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Well, one nation that was taken by the Nazis was Norway, which means many people live behind enemy lines there. And one such person was Gunnar Sonstaby. He led a resistance. Now, we begin our film seeing an elderly Sonstaby lecturing a young group of Norwegians. He is friendly, wise, engaging. But his story, John, is terrifying. Initially, Gunnar was a young man who liked to ski with a good friend. You know, he's a young guy. And he had all the same desires as other young men, you know, girls, going out. But there was a difference. Gunnar had the ability, the very rare ability, to silence these desires for the sake of a greater need, freedom. Not many people can do that. Not many people can take their normal needs and completely silence them for the greater good. And I think that's why those people are so incredibly rare in history. The founding fathers kind of remind me of that. Well, before long, we see Gunnar working with a resistance cell, then rising to leadership because the Nazis have moved in. He is incredibly meticulous. This guy is fascinating. He never sleeps in the same place two nights in a row. He wakes up around 3.30 each morning because Nazis sweep. They sweep suspected homes between 4 and 5. So he goes in the forest and grabs some more sleep on the ground. This guy, nothing, nothing will hold him back. Gunnar is incredibly careful in whom he trusts and how he arranges all the details for every attack on the Nazis. He understands these are savages, but they're brilliant savages who will stop at nothing to find him. They will torture, they will kill, they will infiltrate, and they will betray. Gunnar won't even allow romance in his life, though resistance women do admire him. And who can blame them? Because they've just never seen anybody with this kind of focus and dedication. At multiple points, Gunnar is brought to England, where he receives orders and help. Surprisingly, he's also interrogated as a possible traitor. This was fascinating. They interrogated him as a possible traitor. You want to know why? Because all his cohorts were dying and he wasn't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 05 :
They were wondering how on earth. How in the world did that happen? Right, because you've gone really on the front lines. You've accomplished amazing things. Everybody else is dying. Why aren't you? Are you selling them out?
SPEAKER 08 :
And he's like, are they somehow the enemy protecting you because you're selling them out?
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. And he's like, no, I'm that meticulous. Okay. At multiple points, Gunnar is, you know, basically questioned. But perhaps the most shocking aspect of this film is the Norwegian Nazis themselves. I didn't know this. Okay. When you think about the worst Nazis.
SPEAKER 08 :
Norwegian Nazis.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Never heard of them. I didn't.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, they were very receptive. So the Nazis swept in. It was military. But there were a lot of Norwegians who were very receptive. And, you know, you would think, who are the worst Nazis? The Germans, right? Wrong-o. OK, the Norwegian Nazis, the ones who would sell them out. Now, think about this. We've got a lot of people here in America who, let's be honest, are very, very sympathetic to Islam and to what the Islamic terrorists did to the Jews recently. Right. And who are very sympathetic to communism. Right. And what communists have done in the name of that. And who are very sympathetic to these very left-leaning movements. Well, they had that too. And here was what was really surprising. These people were as terrifying as the German Nazis. Just as terrifying, if not more. They despised their countrymen. And they loved having the power to do this to them.
SPEAKER 08 :
I never knew.
SPEAKER 05 :
But think about it, John. Think about it. Aren't there people right here in America who would love... To have the power to do to us what some of these worst people do. Okay, well, what works in number 24? By the way, number 24 is his code name.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, got it.
SPEAKER 05 :
What works in number 24? Well, this is a piercing look inside the head of a brilliant human being facing brilliant inhuman beings. They are hunting him. He's the leader, and they're hunting him in every way possible, churning over every stone, churning every person, doing everything they possibly can to find this guy, and he is brilliant. This foreign film, it is a foreign film, is much like Anthony Hopkins' One Life from last year, but this is better. I'll just say it. This is better. The pace is better. The intensity of the characters is better. The strategy is better. It's amazing to see. Amazing to see what a person can achieve when they sacrifice deep human needs. So few of us do. Right. The Nazis had never faced someone who compromised on nothing in opposing them. We have to keep in mind the Nazis were experts in human psychology. They really were. And so they were almost always able to find these people. Why? Because they would play psychology against them. They would say, you know, this one needs food, this one needs safety, this one needs women, this one needs whatever, right? And whatever your needs were, they could leverage that to get you to turn on others or to get others to help them find you. Wow. Okay, well, Stonsteby's answer was very simple. Eliminate all weakness. Have none. like that be a human machine basically and it was just fascinating to watch another interesting character is this young man whose brother was tortured to death i won't say how but wow by the norwegian nazis now gunnar says to this guy hey if you want you can leave uh this guy wants the opposite he wants to be a weapon and so he becomes basically the main henchman to kill nazis What was that movie with Brad Pitt where they just killed Nazis? Inglorious Bastards. This guy would have fit in perfectly with that Jewish group in Inglorious Bastards.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
All he, he didn't care. Because he had lost his brother, and it's just like, and so he was nothing but a savage back at the savages. They had no idea what they had unleashed. There's a great line in this, and this is when he's speaking later, and you've got this young woman, and she's obviously very troubled by his actions. I won't say why. She talks about, well, can't you, what about nonviolent? Look at how successful Gandhi was. And he has a great line. He says, Gandhi never fought the Nazis.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, good point. Great point.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I'll say one other thing that works in number 24. It has a very strong ending. Really strong. Really well done. Okay, what doesn't work in number 24? Well, while the pace is good, the pace of the story is good. It moves along. And some of these films don't. I'll be honest, some of them don't. The one with Anthony Hopkins at times did not, although it was a good movie. This moves along quite well. It's a bit slow early on, but after that it moves along quite well. Number two, Sans to Be. Though a Norwegian hero isn't a deeply interesting personality. He really isn't. He's not this compelling Braveheart-like personality who just grabs you and pulls you along in the story. Next, the sheer entertainment level isn't on par with films like Braveheart or maybe The Patriot. Although, I'll be honest, I'm reviewing this for everybody. But for me, I find this guy more enjoyable to watch than those. But that's because I love the chess match. I really do. This is more fascinating than fun is what I'm saying. It's got action. OK, it's got some great explosions. It's got some great moments. But this is more fascinating than fun. It's a little bit more of a thinking man's kind of movie, even though you've got some horrifying. I mean, there's torture in this. I'm not going to kid you. So if you're not up for, you know, the fact that they are going to do some torture. Don't watch it. Don't watch this movie. And finally, this shows momentary sympathy early on for communism, which kind of surprised me. I thought that was out of place. But, you know, if they're just being historical, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because they were.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because I wasn't in Norway. I don't know. All right. But this shows because one thing that... Hitler was trying to do was also take out the communists, not because his views were anti-communist. I mean, he was right in line with them. He was socialist. They were competition. And so because of that, the communism was almost seen as free speech. One example of free speech in Norway, along with capitalism or anything else. Okay, so there you go. That's what doesn't work in 24. Pretty minor. Rotten Tomatoes, well, they only had six reviewers, and they all said yes. So I guess that's 100%. But that's not going to give you much of an idea. However, the reviews by the people watching this, it's on Netflix, by the way, folks. This is a Netflix movie. You can go there right now. They gave it 96%. I'm going to also say yes, watch this movie, but I'm not going to go quite that high. I'm going to give it four stars, and the reason is I don't believe that this is a hugely entertaining movie, although I found it entertaining. I found it an enjoyable watch. It pulled me along. I cared much more about this character and a couple others than I have in the majority of films I've seen recently.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hmm. Good to know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. In fact, probably the last time I saw a character that I enjoyed this much was probably the cat from Flow, of all things. Yeah. I know. But this was a fascinating movie, and I just never knew that about the Norwegian knots. I didn't either. It blew my mind. Yeah, very interesting. But what's really interesting is to see... What it was like for the Nazis to come up against one human being who took all his needs, set them aside, and was nothing but a methodical master and just a chess player.
SPEAKER 04 :
Did he leave notes or a diary or how did this story come to light?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't want to tell you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't want to tell you because I don't want to give it away. Yeah. Okay. But it's on Netflix and it is worth watching. If it wasn't worth watching, I'd tell you.
SPEAKER 04 :
But you think it's a pretty factual movie? Yes. All right. Good. I'm looking forward to it. I'll look at it this weekend.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. By the way, this guy is viewed as the greatest hero of Norway to a lot of people. Wow. I think most people. He is their military hero. And there you go. Political, I'm going to give it three and a half. I would actually give it four, but I'm knocking it just a touch for communism is the opposite of free speech. Kind of silly there, but that's okay. It was only a moment. Don't care. Still three and a half stars. More religious, three and a half. I will tell you there is male nudity at one point for obvious reasons. I mean, you're torturing prisoners. Exactly. Do I recommend watching number 24 on Netflix? Yes, I do, folks. I do. It is worth watching. It's not one of those three-hour films. I think it's under two. I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
And you watch it just for the historical side of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think it's an hour 51 or something like that. But first of all, you watch it for the historical if you're into that, obviously. But also, I'll tell you, you will like the characters. It will pull you along. You're not going to be bored. There you go.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Bruce Simmons and Andy Pate. And John and Bruce, I've got a question for you. Are you ready for another movie? Always. Last one sounded really good, so good job. Yeah. Well, you know, films like Megan. Did you ever see Megan? Never did. You never saw Megan. Well, it came out in January, and it was a real sleeper hit. It was a horror movie that came out a couple years ago in January. And it has a lot of us wondering if January could become the new horror months. Well, let's find out in Wolfman.
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Hello? Can anyone hear me?
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Hello? We were in an accident. Daddy, are we gonna die?
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No. It's my job to protect you.
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And we... we were attacked. I think my husband was infected.
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Mike?
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Mike?
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Mike?
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Daddy?
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Daddy? What's wrong with daddy? He got sick. What is happening to me?
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Can you understand me? You're scaring me.
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Hurry, Mommy. He's coming.
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Oh, does that sound scary? The car never wants to start.
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I know.
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I was thinking the same thing. Dang thing. You know, these modern Wolfman movies are very scary. I mean, you're not going to play Frisbee catch with these things, okay? These are very scary. Okay, Christopher Abbott and Julia Garner, who are both terrific actors, by the way.
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Rude from Ozark.
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Yeah. There you go.
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Awesome.
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I like her.
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I do, too. She's great.
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I really do. Well, I mean, she brings a lot of energy to everything she does. Well, anyway, they star as Blake and Charlotte, a married couple with a young daughter named Ginger. Now, they live in a big city. She's a busy reporter. He's a writer. But Blake was raised in the past by a war veteran, survivalist father who was mentally abusive. Okay, I'm just going to say it. Stereotype alert. Stereotype alert. Right? I mean, come on. Daddy wasn't sensitive. Well, now Blake is a sensitive modern dad, but he has one common thing with his dad. One thing in common with his dad. He's highly protective of his kid. As for Blake's dad, he hasn't seen him in many years. Well, Blake and Julia, they don't have a great marriage. She's emotionally distant. She's uninterested. And so when Blake hears his dad has been declared dead because he had gone missing for a while, So he's been declared dead. He asked Julia to come with him to collect stuff from his childhood home. Got it. And, of course, bring their child. Well, it's a farm in the Oregon countryside. I'll say this. Cabin in the woods alert. Cabin in the woods alert. You see these stereotypes coming one after the other. Well, it's a farm and it's way out there. And, of course, it's dark. And, of course, is there cell phone coverage out there? No. Of course not. We can't have that. Well, they get lost on the way. He hasn't been there for decades. And then they get back. I'm sorry. Then they get into a bad wreck with the moving van. And it's a very bad wreck. And while trying to get out, Blake gets clawed at by a mysterious monster. Well, then, over the course of the night, the infection, it takes over and begins the super gross transformation of Sensitive Daddy into Murderous Wolfman. Remember the fly?
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah, you get the idea. Well, because so often in these movies, the Wolfman thing happens pretty quickly, right? You get scratched, and then as soon as there's a full moon, boom, you're a wolf. Mm-hmm. And it happens in, what, a minute or whatever. This is a slow transformation. I had never seen that done before. His senses are heightened. His teeth are being replaced. And Julia, she sees it happening after a bit and she tries to get help. Meanwhile, they still have to contend with the wolf. That's out in the forest. And it's hunting them. So they're barricaded in the house. But dad is becoming what they fear outside. That's not good. Poor guy. He's losing his mind. And you see this piece by piece. He's losing his mind as his mind is becoming more primitive. And he can't understand what his wife and daughter are saying to him. And he's becoming very frightened. He's becoming a savage threat to those he loves best. Well... Can he ever get his humanity back? Can Charlotte and Ginger survive? And is there any way to rid the world of all those terrible survivalist war veterans? I'm telling you what, they scare me, John. You know, I mean, if we get bit, do we become wolves or MAGA voters? I'm not quite sure. What works in Wolfman? Well, first of all, the generational trauma angle, it's interesting. It really is. We either become our parents or we become the opposite, but either way it controls us.
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We get aspects of them, but in this case, of course, he becomes sensitive. Why? His dad was insensitive, and so he wants to become the opposite. But he's still highly protective of his child. And I thought that was really interesting watching that dynamic. Transitioning slowly into a wolfman is a totally different take from anything I've seen before. And it's not fully wolf. So it's very, very different from... Half man, half wolf.
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But, John, it's really different from what we've seen in the past, or if you watch the Underworld movies with the wolf men there, which, by the way, are super cool, and I recommend them for anybody. Chris Abbott and Julia Garner, they do a really good job with these roles. Of course, he has to do the role of transitioning, which is really pretty tough. Okay. I wonder if they have a place for detransitioning for them. They can take them. I'm not sure. Maybe a church camp. Beats me. I don't know. Julie Garner, she is in a really tough way. And I think she does a good job because here she is not even close with her husband at all. But, of course, they love the daughter. And she is having a really hard time because she doesn't connect with the daughter very well. She's not very sensitive. He is. Okay. Which is kind of a reversal of what we often see. And she's going through a lot. I thought she did a really good job trying to balance that because it was really tough. She's a cold, distant woman going through this. And I thought she did a good job. And, of course, the girl who plays her daughter does a solid job. You know, she's a screen kid. Right. That's what she's got to be. What doesn't work in Wolfman? Well, this is a slow film for only 100 minutes. It really is. Basically, there's not enough story here. There really isn't. 100 minutes of movie, I would say there's about 80 minutes of story tops. Tops. And I'm being generous here. And that story is plagued with silly stereotypes. Blake's dad is threadbare Hollywood preaching. Really. Exaggerating the type of person they most hate. Right? They hate the prepper stereotype. They hate those preppers. Right. You know, it's just yawn. You know, I've seen that too many times. And then there's another backwoods hunter guy who's also weird and scary in his own right. Once again, those prepper tights. This was like anti homestead of a movie. Right. And I thought that was kind of interesting. You have a poorly choreographed battle scene with Julia fighting a wolf man with a knife. She's slashing away. When in reality, the monster would have just torn her apart. Come on. You've seen her. She's little. No way. Come on. And you're sitting there thinking, okay, seriously, we've all seen about 80 Wolfman movies. Okay. They all would have killed her by now. Right. She'd be Wolfman food at this point. But she's actually holding up. Let's see here. There's some really awkward dialogue with the backwoods hunter guy. It was like the hipster urbanites writing this film had no idea what to do with that role.
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Leave him out then.
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You know what it really reminded me? The writers of this movie, looking at the preppers or looking at the backwoods guys, the hunters, just the hunters. They understood this character about as much as the left-wing media understood MAGA. And that's why they didn't see this election coming. Sorry to get political here for a moment, but I got that feeling from this. It's like, guys, you're writing this role really poorly and exaggerated and stupid, and it's just not coming off well. It's coming off clumsy because you don't get it. Next, more grossness than scares. More ick than whoa, right?
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Okay.
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There's too much lead up to the action also. As I always say in these horror films, you got to time it, baby. You got to have enough lead up to build that horror. You don't want it too quick, right? But if you take too long, what do you do? You kill the mood. They take too long. in building up to it and it just it just doesn't work it comes off weak finally you got a mediocre script at best it's just not that good it desperately needed some more humor especially since uh julia garner chris chris abbott these two can pull off some humor put in a few more funny lines make it lighter because that makes the horror jump out more It doesn't just all blend in. It didn't work. It desperately needed some humor. Blumhouse needs to get back to its roots. Blumhouse Studios put out this movie. And most of their horror films are known for having good amounts of humor spotted in. And what that does is it picks up the pace and picks up the interest along the way every point in the movie. When you don't have that, it comes off as a horror slog. Yeah.
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Okay.
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And this came off as a horror slog. It just wasn't that good. Rotten Tomatoes, well, they agreed. They gave it 56%. They weren't in love with this movie. Didn't hate it, but they weren't in love with it. I'm going to go a little lower since I was just thinking about this and I was thinking, Andy, would you recommend to anybody to actually watch this? No. I mean, it's not terrible. If you're really into horror, yeah, why not? Because, you know, there isn't much out there right now. But I'm going to give it one and a half stars. That's pretty weak. I'm not saying it's an awful movie. I'm saying it's... not very entertaining it just isn't uh political i'm going to take it down one and a half just because of the stereotypes they bang away on on that drum it's kind of like you know guys you just don't get it right okay um moral religious i'll give it a three no big deal either way it doesn't preach Do I recommend going to Wolfman? No, I don't. But I will say this. For those who are into horror, into horror, I'm going to tell you, you're not seeing Megan here. You're not seeing Black Phone. You're not seeing Fall. You're not seeing something that's really well made and gripping. But you are seeing some horror and it'll do that for you. So why not?
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Yesterday's question of the day, which two months of the year are named after mortal men? It is July and August. July and August. Today's impossible question.
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Yeah, actually, I knew August. My brother's name is August. Gus.
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Ah, there you go.
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Okay, go ahead.
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Today's a possible question. What is the name of the private, all-male, historically black college located in Atlanta, Georgia, which is the alma mater of Martin Luther King Jr., Spike Lee, and Edwin Moses? Any thoughts? No one? No one? Okay. I don't know. I wouldn't have guessed this one.
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No, honestly, John, I don't know college names that well. I'd have to look it up.
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I don't either. I'd have to look this one up. Anyway, answer that on our Facebook page if you would like to. We would appreciate that greatly. We've got about four or five minutes here left of this hour, Andy. Then we'll come back to NFL picks and movies with blondes. Yes, and I did that in honor of Pam Bondi. Who did well this week. Oh, she did a great job. Despite the knuckleheads questioning her.
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Yeah, and Pam Bondi is not super smooth. The one who was just devastating was Rubio. I mean, so smooth, so fast.
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He's one of them. That's easy for him.
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Well, there's that. But they could ask him any question about any place on Earth. you know, Secretary of State, and he immediately, he is, I think, probably the most knowledgeable and qualified Secretary of State we've had since Kissinger.
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Did they throw bombs at him by chance? I think because they didn't watch any of it.
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They didn't even try. They gave up quick. They knew it didn't matter what they threw at him. You know, everybody does the same. They're all trying to say, are you two connected to Trump and this? And it's just like, after a while, it's like, guys, being connected to Trump and an ally of Trump is not an evil thing. No. That actually just won. Okay. And by the way, you guys are all connected to Biden. Right. You're all connected to Obama. Is that a sin? It's ridiculous. When they were asking Pam Bondi, would you, you know, if Trump asked you to break the law and she's just like, if I thought he would do that, I wouldn't take the position. Wouldn't be here. Yeah.
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Oh, Andy.
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She did a great job.
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Some of the questions that they throw out, I just think to myself, okay, first of all, that's not your question because you're not even that smart to come up with that question. But number two, you're just a puppet. Yeah. And a dumb one at that.
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Right. You're a coordinated group of puppets. And it was just, I thought it was embarrassing. I think the Democrats are just setting themselves back further and further and further right now.
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The best one with her, by the way, was Shifty Shift. Oh, yeah. Just putting him in his place.
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Yeah. It was awful. I mean, it was great. I loved it.
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He would have been better off not saying anything.
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Because he got tortured with her.
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He was outgunned. Well, he always is. He was outgunned. I don't know why he was trying that line of reasoning, that line of questioning. And she ate him alive. She just made him look... Stupid. Petty, stupid. She did.
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You're right.
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And it was just like, you know, dude... Look, America just voted you guys out because you guys weaponized government. Right. Okay? And here, all you guys are complaining about is you're saying to all these nominees, are you going to weaponize government? No, we're not going to be you. We're replacing you. Right. Do you understand?
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It's a changing of the guard.
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Yeah. And by the way, you're saying, are we going to go after Trump's enemies? Look, if they've committed a bunch of crimes and that's what the evidence says, then yes. They're the same as any other American.
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I thought all of them, even though Pete wasn't quite as polished because he hasn't been around some of that stuff like the others, even he did well with all of that because, again, some of the questions even thrown at him were just stupid.
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I thought Pete did a fine job, given what he was going through. But one last thing, then we'll go to break. Pam, Rubio, and them, the fact that all they could do is go after a connection with Trump, what that shows is this. They had nothing on them and their character. They didn't bring up anything with their character at all. Why? Because they're spotless.
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We are back on the flower coming your way again. We'll do NFL picks and then movies with blondes. If you've got some suggestions, and that's a broad one.
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By the way, it could be smart blondes, dumb blondes. We don't care. Because I think we can say Bondi is a smart blonde.
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I think you could definitely. After this week, you could definitely say that. So 307-282-22 is our text line. Text us your favorite movies. We'll add them to the list. Otherwise, we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two. And we'll have NFL picks, of course. Four games, is that right, Andy? Four games. Four big games. Four big games. Which, out of those, will be the...
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NFC and AFC championship games.
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That will then go on to the Super Bowl.
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Right.
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Right.
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And as I've been saying, I believe the NFC championship game is the Super Bowl.
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Okay. Well, we'll talk about that here in a few minutes when you and Richard get together. And then movies with blondes will be right after that.
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One last question. Yeah, go ahead. Do you think we could ever do movies with brunettes?
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Sure.
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Because we've done blondes.
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We've got to do brunettes sometime. We can do that. Okay. We'd be happy to. Yeah, absolutely. So, all right. We'll come right back. We'll get rolling along here. And again, insurance, big deal. And a lot of changes in the insurance world. And you've already seen stories coming out of things that are changing right now for those of you that have current policies. Talk to my good friend Paul Leuenberger about insurance. He'll get you all dialed in. 303-662-0789.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Richard joining us now. Richard, are you with us? That I am. Okay. It is the last week. Well, not last week. There's a bye week in between and the Super Bowl, right? Right. But this is the last hurrah this week.
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Yes. Well, this and then next week. Next week's the championship games. But then you got the week and then Super Bowl. Right. So we're winding down. Right. Okay. Richard, I got to ask you a question. Because for me, I can tell you my favorite team in the playoffs. It's anyone playing against the Lions. So I want to ask you, is your favorite team anyone playing against the Chiefs?
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Yeah, well, Andy, I'm going to – yeah, because the Lions I'm actually going for. I would love to see them win a Super Bowl. You'll get that poor city off the – Andy, but that's like hating the Chargers, right? Like they've never won anything. They've never done anything. You've got to, you know, give the little guy something every once in a while.
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John, what am I wearing right now?
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He's always got his Packers shirt on.
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Okay, I got my Packers shirt on. The Lions, we hate the Lions. And by the way, I despise their coach, Mr. Rah-Rah, who doesn't mind pouring it on when he's got – I don't like him. I never liked him. I think he's a creep, and I would love to see him lose. He's not going to. They're going to win the Super Bowl with ease this year. But I would love to see him lose. Anybody. If anyone could beat them.
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I can see it, Andy. For me, obviously, it's the Chiefs. I don't care who wins the Super Bowl this year. As much as I don't like Baltimore for a variety of reasons, I would take them winning the Super Bowl. Even Philly. I really don't like Philly. Mainly, you talk about the Lions coach. I do not like Nick Sirianni and the Lions. I don't like their coach. I don't like that team. I'll just And I've got friends that are Philly fans, so you'll take it for what it's worth.
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It's heresy because Crawford, his headquarters, is in Philly.
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Am I right, Charlie? Because I just don't like Philly fans. They booed Santa Claus, for crying out loud.
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I will say this. I mean, if you're talking about somebody who's really downtrodden, we'd want to root for the Rams. Look at their city. It's gone. I mean, out of these eight teams, only one of them has a city that's literally gone. But go ahead.
SPEAKER 20 :
But they at least won one recently, right? So they've got a little bit to save. And let's be honest, Andy, L.A. is no stranger to championships. Maybe not in football, but in terms of championships, obviously between the Lakers, even in hockey with the Kings and obviously the Dodgers, they are no stranger to actually winning. I mean, again, the Chargers, but they're not really L.A. I mean, they're still San Diego, let's be honest. But, yeah, again, Andy, I don't care who wins this weekend. If you told me the Chiefs, which I think they still will, if they lost, I would be ecstatic. And as much as I'm with you on Dan Campbell, I think he's a little bit much, and he probably could learn when to not go for it, when to not run up the score. And I guess it will remain to be seen if he learns his lesson here in a few short weeks. You live in Detroit, Andy. I mean, it's almost as bad as living in Green Bay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah, that's pretty mean.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's worse.
SPEAKER 15 :
Green Bay is actually a really nice town. Green Bay is probably, out of all 32 cities, the one that people like us would most enjoy living in. I've gone there many times. It's a much more relaxed, friendly environment than all these big cities. It's a lot like Fort Collins, basically.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and you could be right, Andy. I will take your word for it.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's smaller.
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, just Detroit and the downtroddenness of Detroit and everything else, that is not my cup of tea. But, again, I don't even think the Lions have ever even been to a Super Bowl, have they? No.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I'll tell you what. Let's jump in on these because three of them look pretty easy to pick. The last one's the only tough one, so let's jump in. You ready? Ready? Let's go for it. All right. Music, please. Here we go. The Texans pulled off a minor surprise. Not big. That was the closest game going in last week. They are on the road. The Chiefs are favored by eight, which with the way the Chiefs have been playing this year, eight is a big number.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is a big number, Andy. It's a really big number. Yeah. Like you say, based on how they've been playing. I feel like that's going to be another situation, especially because they had a week off, Andy, and granted they got healthy and they needed to. I think that they're going to start slow. I don't think they'll start super fast. I think the Texans are going to be warmed up, per se. And, you know, in these situations, Andy, you've got to put pressure on the higher seed to perform, and I think the Texans can do that. Now, if you get C.J. Stroud of the regular season, this game's going to be over really quickly, right? But if you get C.J. Stroud from last week and even last year, I think you've got to – this has actually got a sneaky chance to be a really competitive game. Now, with saying that, Andy, I don't – I don't see him. Like I said before, I want to hope with every last ounce of my body that the Texans can pull it out. And I will be ecstatic if they do. I just don't think they have the horses. And the Chiefs have been there, Andy. They've been there too many times. They know how to do it. They know how to beat people. And especially, Andy, if this comes down to Patrick Mahomes. Four minutes on the clock. He's going to drain it. They're going to kick the game-winning field goal. So they may not cover Andy, but the Chiefs will win.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I agree. I think this game, I think the Chiefs really take over in the second half and just blow them out. That's what I expect. But if there's one chance I'm going to give, you know, the puncher's chance for the Texans, it's their pass rush. The only way the Texans win this game is if their pass rush replicates what they did last week. And that Chiefs offensive line is not great. It's good, but it's not great. Agreed? But we'll both take the Chiefs.
SPEAKER 20 :
I agree. Well, and Andy, the Chiefs are starting Joe Thune, who is an all-pro offensive guard who's done admirable at tackle. But yes, that will be the key, Andy. Can he maintain his level of play that he played over the past few weeks? And they obviously not lose it on the interior. That will be something to watch, not necessarily this game, but obviously if they play the Bills or the Ravens. later on. So we'll see. It'll be interesting.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. Okay, so we'll both take the Chiefs. Moving along, this one's easy. The Commanders, hey, good for them. I picked them last week. They did win. They're going up against the Lions. Lions are the best team in the NFL, bar none, by a long stretch, I think. Lions favored by 9.5. This game, to me, is already over. I mean, do you give Washington any chance at all? Because, really quick, and I just got to say it, The big key going into these playoffs is the offensive lines of these teams. And the two teams that have dominant offensive lines are the Lions and the Eagles. And I just don't see a defense really being able to get to those quarterbacks.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, not until maybe the Super Bowl, Andy, right? Especially for those two teams, the NFC, the Lions. I know they're starting to get a few people back, but they're still down. So for them to get to the Eagles, I agree with you, Andy. I think the Commanders have a chance because I think Jalen Daniels is pretty exciting, but I also think the Lions are going to throw some different looks. I think that they're tougher, and I just think the Commanders are a young team, and while I think a young team can be exciting and can be a good thing, eventually you're going to kind of come up against a team that just is a little bit tougher, a little bit older, a little bit more seasoned, and that seems like Detroit to me. So as much as you don't want to see it, and I know it pains you to pick them the same way it pains me to pick the Chiefs, I'm going to go with the Lions.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I'm going with the Lions, Big. And here's why. Jared Goff is the ultimate game manager quarterback. And when you put a game manager quarterback behind that line, he's going to cut you to ribbons. I think this is over quick. I think right out of the gate, he's going to cut up the commanders and just rip them to shreds. He's got too much time to throw. That's all there is to it. Just too much time. I'll take the Lions next game. The Rams! Hey, good for them. They won. They had a tough game against the Vikings. They made it not tough. They beat them up. The Rams' defensive line was incredible against the Vikings. I got news for them. They're about to go up against an incredible offensive line in the Eagles. The Eagles are favored by six and a half.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, Andy, it'll be interesting, to be honest with you, because the Rams are sort of that feel-good sort, but they've got the quarterback, right? I mean, the Eagles do, too. Don't get me wrong. Jalen Hurts. can play well if he plays within himself. But the Rams, Matt Stafford, Andy, that dude, when he's got healthy receivers, and granted, I'm with you on everything else. He needs the help, and that team is not a great team, right? There's still some question marks for me. And while I think the Eagles will pull out, Andy, and here's part of the reason why, Andy, is the weather, right? The weather in that game is going to be cold. frigid. It may even be snowing. And when you're coming from L.A., yes, it gets to you, especially cross-country. You're going across that many time zones. And then you're going to play in frigid weather. It usually isn't a good combination. However, Andy, I could see the Rams keeping this close just because I think Stafford is on one of those special little trips here. Now, again, it could come crashing down, and I think it likely does. But I think it may be a closer game than we anticipate. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
First of all, if you switched the quarterbacks, if Stafford was on the Eagles, I would pick them to beat Detroit and win the Super Bowl. He's not on the better team. This game is in the cold. What is that? Who wins in the cold? The trenches. Eagles have an offensive line that is a juggernaut. Okay? Just like the Lions. Both offensive lines are juggernauts. They just mow teams over. And that's how I'm going to take the Eagles in the cold. I think Saquon has a lot of fun. Okay, last game. This is the one close one of the weekend. The Ravens. are favored by one going in against the Bills. The Bills had their way with Denver. Can they do it again?
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, man, Andy. Again, the Bills offensive line is playing really well right now. So is the Ravens. Another cold game, Andy. I think it's supposed to be, you know, I don't even know if it's quite as cold as here this weekend, but it's still supposed to be cold. You know, it is Buffalo, likely snowing, right? Buffalo in January.
SPEAKER 15 :
I like both these quarterbacks in the cold. These are tough quarterbacks. They're both good in the cold.
SPEAKER 20 :
I do. I like Josh Allen more just because I think he's built for the cold, but I also know Lamar Jackson feels like he's on a mission this year. You've got Derrick Henry, and I think their record, or Derrick Henry's team's record, when he runs for, I think it's 100 yards, is like 22-2 or something. It's just insane, or maybe even higher than that probably, right? It's an insane number. They've got to get him going. As much as I want the Bills to win this game, Andy, I think it's going to be the Ravens. And I think so because I think the Ravens are motivated. They're on a mission. The only thing that gets them, Andy, in my opinion, is Josh Allen is used to being the hero for Buffalo. Lamar Jackson, his biggest issues in the playoffs has been he's tried to be the hero too often. And I think if he tries to be the hero rather than letting the game come to him, because he had a... several heck of a place last week right you know what i don't think they stayed in the pocket mover i did think he kind of let the game come to him which should be a good learning thing for probably probably playing the chief next week if he lets the game come to think that the ravens are a more complete team and should win but if he doesn't i could absolutely see the bills or the bills pulling it out but i'm gonna go with the ravens on the road andy i just think it's their time
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, it's a weird game because you've got two teams that are not that good on defense, and yet the weather is going to play defense for them, right? Against two explosive offenses, great quarterbacks. I think I'm just going to say this. I think I agree with you. I think the Ravens win, and I think Lamar is going to let the game go to him and then go to someone else. He's going to spend half the time handing off.
SPEAKER 20 :
think they're going to run them over they should andy well again derrick henry trying to tackle derrick henry and the pain much less than you know 10 degrees does not feel fun and so yeah they the ravens would be good to run the ball 35 times throw it 25 and and you know and and hopefully you'll hold on at the end because at the same time and i told you this earlier this year The other thing that makes me nervous, Josh Allen seems like Patrick Mahomes from a few years ago where just no matter what you do, you can't stop the guy. So it'll be interesting what happens, but, yep, I think it'll be the best game of the weekend.
SPEAKER 15 :
They're both on a mission, aren't they? You've got two guys on a mission going after each other this weekend. That's going to be a fun game. That's the one I want to watch. I'll take the Ravens barely. We picked all four games the same, John.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back, and it's movies with blondes. Andy, it is all up to you. Take it away, sir.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, well, you know which one I got to lead with because I love this clip, and that is Madison from Zombieland 2. Here we go.
SPEAKER 23 :
Brian. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
You live here?
SPEAKER 23 :
No Paul Blart. I live in the freezer in Pinkberry. It keeps the zombies out, though it is awfully jelly.
SPEAKER 30 :
Do you ever consider turning it off?
SPEAKER 23 :
Couldn't find the switch. Like, anywhere. Just hoping the electricity would run out.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know, it's amazing. As long as it keeps raining, the dams keep giving us power. Apparently not brain power.
SPEAKER 23 :
I feel like you're being super judgy, like I'm getting a real anti-me vibe off of you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Are you?
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh my god, there it was again.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I saw it.
SPEAKER 23 :
And that's hurtful. Okay, I'm like really good at surviving. I carry a can of mace with me everywhere I go. Mace. And I can run really, really, really, really, really fast. Probably because I used to do a lot of like hot yoga and full cycle. Cardio.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sorry, I do a lot of cardio too. It's actually my number one rule, which is so dorky, but I have like a list of rules for surviving Zombieland.
SPEAKER 23 :
Really?
SPEAKER 04 :
So do I. You have a list of rules for surviving Zombieland?
SPEAKER 23 :
Actually, mine is just mostly stay in the freezer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 16 :
Stay in the freezer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, Richard, don't you think Pam Bondi should have used that voice the entire time while she was up on the hill in the hearings?
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm not sure.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, maybe she should have, Andy. Maybe it would have fit what the Dems were hoping for. I just thought it would have been funnier. I'm just saying. But anyway, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right, I'm going to go with maybe not on your list, Andy, and maybe I'll get you here. Billy Madison with Veronica Vaughn. You did it!
SPEAKER 15 :
I did not have that down, and that's a great example.
SPEAKER 20 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. She was slightly smarter than him.
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, I think so.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just a bit.
SPEAKER 20 :
And maybe she didn't marry him for the money, Andy. I don't think so.
SPEAKER 16 :
Go ahead. There's so many. Mean Girls. There's lots of blondes in it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was funny.
SPEAKER 16 :
Great movie.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. We got to go to one of my favorite blondes ever, and that is Olivia Newton-John in Grease. Here we go.
SPEAKER 11 :
But now there's nowhere to hide since you pushed my love aside. Hopelessly devoted to you. Hopelessly devoted to you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Boy, she had a great voice, didn't she? I loved her in that movie. She was awesome. Richard, what do you think?
SPEAKER 20 :
Andy, my dad, you already know my dad is not a fan of musicals, so no good, no good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, I got to keep the heat on him. I've got to keep John involved in culture.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, there we go.
SPEAKER 20 :
You're up. Get him cultured, Andy. That's right. All right, I'm going to go with one of Veronica Corningstone, Anchorman.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ooh, ooh, ooh. Okay, wait a minute. I've got to clip. And here we go.
SPEAKER 31 :
Mr. Burgundy, you are acting like a baby.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm not a baby, I'm a man! I am an Anchorman! You are not a man, you are a big fat junk!
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science.
SPEAKER 31 :
I will have you know that I have more talent and more intelligence in my little finger than you do in your entire body, sir!
SPEAKER 06 :
You are a smelly pirate hooker.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was so bad.
SPEAKER 15 :
It was so funny. I hadn't seen her do anything when she did that role except for married with children. And she was hilarious. She was great.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good job. Who's up? My turn. Your turn. Go ahead. How to lose a guy in 10 days. You can also say that isn't McConaughey a blonde as well. Yes, two blondes. Look, you're the first one to get a duo. There we go. Way to go. All right, John and Cheyenne, you're up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, I got to say that ending line from Anchorman where he just stole the argument. What was that, pirate hooker? You're just a pirate hooker. That's why I just got to be laughing. I guess if you played the clip, I guess it's okay to say it on the radio. I am going to, real quick, going to disagree with you and Richard and think the kid from Wyoming or went to Wyoming is going to win on Sunday night.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, he might.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's going to be a close one. Yeah. But for movies, I'm just going to go with this. Any movie with Rene Russo is worth watching. I mean, any one.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know which one? For me, Tin Cup. Yeah, it's a good movie.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, fabulous. My favorite, and she dyed her hair red, is the remake of the Thomas Crown Affair. I just think she was spectacular. Then the other one is the original blonde, and that would be Marilyn Monroe. Oh, here we go.
SPEAKER 15 :
Here we go. How about Gentleman Prefers Blondes? Just a sec.
SPEAKER 03 :
There you go. A kiss on the hand may be quite continental, but diamonds are a girl's best friend. A kiss may be grand, but it won't pay the rental on your humble flat or help you at the auto map.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, now, what singer basically redid that scene for a music video? Madonna. Well done, yes. Material girl Madonna. She basically redid that scene from that movie.
SPEAKER 19 :
It was very cool. I still think she was funnier in Some Like It Hot. Oh, yeah. With her, Tony Curtis, and Jack Lemmon. That is a hilarious movie if you've never seen it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, Jack Lemmon is one of my favorite actors of all time. So, yeah, can't miss there.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
No. You guys have a good weekend. Stay warm. John, you do the same. We will do that as well. Dan, you're next. Go ahead, Dan.
SPEAKER 07 :
So when we go back to 1966, I'm not certain. I thought you were saying bombs, but you were saying blondes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Blondes. Blondes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Blondes. And I think she was Raquel Welch. Nope. She was a brunette. Oh, she was? Yeah. But in the movie, she's not.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, well, she had different hair colors. She did some blonde. Oh, did she?
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
But, Dan, I've got to ask you a question here really quick because it's supposed to get down to, like, negative teens down here. Up in Blackhawk, how low is it supposed to go this weekend?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, when the weather gets as cold as it does down in town, sometimes we're warmer up here than down there. Sometimes. So I think our high on Monday is supposed to be zero. Okay. on Monday. Your high? The high, yeah. And then I think tomorrow our high is supposed to be like 5 or 6. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
That means your overnight lows are probably going to get pretty bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
So it's weird. I think it's because the cold air or whatever, you know, cold air settles, right? Right. So it's only occurred once so far this winter where we, I think it was when the Denver Broncos played the Chiefs, whatever weekend that was, it was like 22 down in town, and it was like 32, 34 up where I was at. So that only happens very seldom, but it's like a temperature inversion. But, you know, it's all climate change. So all the hot air is causing all the cold air to come into Colorado, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yes. And it causes fires. Yes, it does. There you go. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, all right, well, I can't think of any blondes off the top of my head. I know there's some from the 80s. There's a ton. I know there is. That's all right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Think of another one. Call us back, Dan. Appreciate you. All right, Andy, next round.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, well, we've got to go with Charlize Theron from Italian Job. However, I've got to play my favorite little clip from there because this also involves a blonde when Handsome Rob has to get a girl to give him her card. Here we go.
SPEAKER 22 :
How does he do that? How do you do that? What are you saying? Hey, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. Nice to meet you. I'm handsome Rob. And you are?
SPEAKER 21 :
My name's Becky, but it's written on my shirt.
SPEAKER 22 :
Listen, I'm going to need your shirt and your truck.
SPEAKER 21 :
Perfect. I'll give them both to you. Would you like my virginity as well?
SPEAKER 22 :
If it's on the menu.
SPEAKER 21 :
You're so witty. Why don't you take advantage of me?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, you're not too bright, are you?
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
perfect i just love that scene but charlie's theron was terrific in that movie absolutely i thought richard you're up all right andy let's see here all right we'll go on the animated side of things andy tangled yep it's on my list i mean come on rapunzel well you're going volume i mean that's the most blonde hair of any character ever most
SPEAKER 16 :
ever yeah yeah john uh somebody just texted this one and you guys would have to verify this because that's been a while since i've seen it but sigourney weaver was blonde in galaxy quest yep okay she was that's a good one there you go so thank you listeners we appreciate that okay shall i go with an obvious one absolutely okay here we go legally blonde
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
And it's Senate. I think it gives it a little something extra.
SPEAKER 18 :
A comedy about knowing who you are. You think she just woke up one morning and said, I think I'll go to law school today. And showing what you've got. We're defending Brooke Window. You can buy her exercise tips on infomercials.
SPEAKER 21 :
Wait! Exercise gives you endorphins. Endorphins make you happy. Happy people just don't shoot their husbands. You're fired.
SPEAKER 18 :
What?
SPEAKER 21 :
I have new representation.
SPEAKER 18 :
Reese Witherspoon.
SPEAKER 31 :
Do you remember when we spent those four amazing hours in the hot tub after winter formal? This is so much better than that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Legally Blonde.
SPEAKER 31 :
Oh, look how cute. There's like a judge in everything. Love Brown.
SPEAKER 15 :
It was a funny movie. I enjoyed it. Richard, did you like Legally Blonde?
SPEAKER 20 :
I did. It was a fun one, Andy. She did a great job. Okay, you're up. All right, well, speaking of old Reese, I would be remiss if I didn't do Sweet Home Alabama.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Nicely done, sir. That was good.
SPEAKER 16 :
Go ahead, John. I just thought of one because of the last one you guys played. Hang on. I'm typing in this as we go. And that would be Days of Thunder because –
SPEAKER 15 :
I can't remember. Was she blonde in that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, she was blonde in that. She was the nurse. What about Top Gun? That was Nicole Kidman.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, okay. Top Gun is the girl.
SPEAKER 16 :
First one, blonde. Second one, brunette.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so the first one, blonde.
SPEAKER 16 :
Dirty blonde, first one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Close enough. I'm going with the first Top Gun. Okay. Go ahead, Richard. You're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, there's got to be a blonde in the second one. Yeah, you know, what's his name? Um... Not Rooster, the other pilot, Glenn. Oh, yeah!
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that counts.
SPEAKER 20 :
He's blonde.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that counts. I'll be your savior today.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm just saying we've got to mention the second one. I just watched it the other night. Great movie. Yeah, rare sequel that's on par with the original.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's still the only five-star movie I've given in the last five, six years. Great movie.
SPEAKER 20 :
There you go. All right, Andy, let's go with... Okay, here we go. Dad, maybe one of you. Big Daddy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Big Daddy. I think that's on the list, actually.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, pretty far.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, I have one. Okay. Ted 2. Ted's girlfriend in that is blonde.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I'm going to do something. It's so funny. So wrong. But so funny. That's a movie kids don't watch.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's not a TV commercial for kids.
SPEAKER 15 :
Uncle John is going to watch that on his own, okay? I'm going to pull Richard here and go to a TV show. Okay. Star Trek Voyager 7 of 9, played by Jerry Ryan, is one of the classic blondes of all TV history.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
She dominated that show. Okay. I don't know if either of you have ever seen that. Has anyone seen... Okay, Charlie, am I right? Okay, Charlie says I'm right. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
It would make sense to two nerds. No offense, Charlie. She was a Borg woman. Go ahead. Yeah. All right. I'm going to go animated again. Frozen. Frozen.
SPEAKER 16 :
yeah that's a good one okay go ahead charlie's angels oh yeah tv show or movie cameron diaz you bet she was great okay uh how about how to lose a guy in 10 days kate hudson um i already said oh you already did it i started that let's go to atomic blonde okay atomic blonde works richard go
SPEAKER 20 :
Andy, that is the first time that you've ever done that, and we need to write this day in history. I know. You do it a lot. I do. Usually it's me not paying attention, but you usually pay attention.
SPEAKER 15 :
I try. Yeah. Today I'm not paying attention at all. He admits it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Finally. I love it. I know. We got him.
SPEAKER 15 :
I am not even paying any attention at all. I love it. I'm doing these randomly. Love it. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
You should be. Wow.
SPEAKER 15 :
What a day.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right. All righty. Let's see. Okay, another Will Ferrell movie, Blades of Glory. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, hang on here. What's his name?
SPEAKER 16 :
Make sure I'm thinking correctly.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, give me one so I can know what to say.
SPEAKER 16 :
In Dodgeball, isn't Ben Stiller a blonde?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not blonde, no. No. You sure? His wife is.
SPEAKER 16 :
She is. The girl is. I thought he was.
SPEAKER 15 :
Not really, no. No. No. No.
SPEAKER 16 :
Why do I think that about him? Is there like a cartoon preview, something, a poster board, something that shows him? What, Charlie? Yeah, thank you, Charlie. He is. He's totally blonde. Charlie just looked it up for me. I know it was lighter hair, but it wasn't blonde.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, Charlie? In that movie, he wears a wig. All right. Okay, we'll give it to you. I'm going to go with one that's more obvious, okay?
SPEAKER 16 :
Suicide Squad, Margot Robbie. Well, that one counts for sure.
SPEAKER 15 :
Richard, you're up. Yeah, that's pretty blonde. Okay, he's showing it to us. Okay, we'll go with it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Fair enough.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, Andy. Yeah. Shallow Hal.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, John, I'd like to go with Shallow Hal.
SPEAKER 16 :
For two. Shallow Hal for two. What is Paltrow about? Okay, here's one you guys aren't going to think of. Vacation. All of them because she's a blonde. Clark's wife.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, yeah. How about this one, There's Something About Mary?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, that one counts. Cameron Diaz, Gotta Go Back to the Welder. Okay, you go, Richard. Baywatch. Yes, yes. How did I miss that one? Surprisingly funny movie. It is, actually. How did I forget that one? All right, let's get Joe up here. Joe, go ahead.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, guys, if we're going to allow TV shows, then I have to go with Kaley Cuoco on The Big Bang Theory. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good one. Very good one. That counts.
SPEAKER 15 :
That'll count? Yep. All right, Joe, appreciate you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nope, that one counts.
SPEAKER 15 :
What about the daughter on All in the Family?
SPEAKER 16 :
Gloria.
SPEAKER 15 :
Gloria. Gloria. Just saying. But anyway, John, it's your turn. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it's your turn. I went last, and then Joe.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Well, then I'm going to go with another Margot Robbie. I'm going with I, Tonya.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, that's on my list. Good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Great performance. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I gave her Best Actress that year for that. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
We'll just go with the trifecta here, which is Wolf of Wall Street. Ooh.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. That's a good one. John, you are up. Overboard, which I figured Andy would have already said.
SPEAKER 15 :
I was getting there. I was getting there. Okay, let's go to an action one. How about Kill Bill?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, on my list.
SPEAKER 15 :
Uma Thurman. Absolutely. One of my favorite blondes ever. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
Add your favorite series of movies, Fast and the Furious. Oh, jeez. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's a blonde in that?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't know. It's hard for me to see the hair color when I'm watching all the great acting. Oh, jeez. I know. What hair color does Vin Diesel have, by the way? Yeah, Charlize toward the end, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, did you see old Vin Diesel in The Rock at the Golden Globes where Vin Diesel gets up there to present, and he looks down and he goes, Dwayne, and it was just so awkward.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I didn't. I did not see it. Well, it's Vin Diesel. What do you expect? Mr. Awkward.
SPEAKER 20 :
It was pretty fun.
SPEAKER 16 :
Mr. Non-actor.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, they had a falling out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Greatest actor ever. Mr. Non-actor. Greatest actor. Okay, am I up? Go ahead, yeah. How about The Millers? Jennifer Aniston.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's a good one. Okay, how about it? Here's a clip. Is it romantic with Rebel Wilson?
SPEAKER 25 :
Look at me in the eyes.
SPEAKER 20 :
You're quite beguiling, aren't you?
SPEAKER 25 :
Are you feeling what I'm feeling? No! Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 21 :
I think I'm trapped in a... My life's become a mother... Romantic comedy! And it's PG-13!
SPEAKER 24 :
Hey, Booch, what's the update?
SPEAKER 21 :
I have to get a man to fall in love with me. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, yeah!
SPEAKER 15 :
That was a surprisingly funny movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
What's the name of it?
SPEAKER 15 :
Isn't It Romantic.
SPEAKER 16 :
Isn't It Romantic.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think I've seen that. She gets banged on the head and wakes up in a romantic comedy that's PG-13. It's pretty funny. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
In the Rebel Wilson vein of things, Andy. Pitch perfect. Yep, there you go.
SPEAKER 16 :
I knew somebody was going to say that one. Okay, since we're on that same theme, wasn't she in the Nightly Museum? Wasn't she the guard?
SPEAKER 15 :
She might have been.
SPEAKER 16 :
Am I right in that one, Charlie?
SPEAKER 15 :
Wasn't she the... One of the later ones, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think so.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think so. Okay, go with that. How about this one? How about Rosamund Pike from Jack Reacher?
SPEAKER 16 :
Ooh, that one's good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 20 :
Pretty good. All right, I'm going to go with animated again, Andy. Cindy Lou Who from The Grinch.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Classic. Classic. John, go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, how about Horrible Bosses? Jennifer Aniston's that one again.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, okay. Well, here's one where a brunette plays a blonde in Liar Liar. That's Jennifer Tilly.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's a good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. In your bra. In your bra. Exactly. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
She was good.
SPEAKER 20 :
She was good. I'm going to rack your brain on this one. What's that?
SPEAKER 16 :
And I forgot she was a brunette, so that's a good one, Andy. Good job.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. All right, Andy, going to rack your brain on this one. Okay. The Program, which is a football movie, and if you haven't seen it as a man, you need to because it's really good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I'm not a real man, but go ahead. Well, The Program. That's the movie, Andy. It's very good. Okay. American Hustle. American Hustle. How about a liberal movie? The Bombshell. That's got three of them. Theron, Kidman, and Robbie.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, about Fox News. Okay, Richard, go. Let's see here. Andy Jumanji. Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good one, good one.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, she's on Natural Brunette, I believe. There you go. Yeah, good one.
SPEAKER 16 :
John? How about King Kong? I think almost all of them have a blonde.
SPEAKER 15 :
They do, always. Okay, here's one. Uma Thurman plays one of my favorite dumb blondes, and that's in The Truth About Cats and Dogs.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I do have a clip. We don't have time, but it's good. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 20 :
Let's see here, Andy. Home Alone, Kevin McAllister.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. Good. Yeah, that counts. Bride Wars.
SPEAKER 15 :
Bride Wars. Okay, I'm going to go with the greatest, and I'm just going to say it, the hottest blonde of all time. That's Miss Piggy in the Muppet movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
There we go. I'm not typing that out. She's the greatest. I'm refusing to put that on the list.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, everybody else is just trying to fill her shoes. Okay, go ahead, Richard. Anna, you're unbelievable. I love doing that, too.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm going to go with, even though she is a natural blonde, or a natural brunette, I should say, Anna de Armas in Blonde, which is about Marilyn Monroe, I believe. Good job. Good job, John.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Well, how about Barbie?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah. Okay. That was a layup. How about Julia Stiles in 10 Things I Hate About You?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a good one.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, Andy. Oh, I didn't do this one yet. Hayden Panettiere in Remember the Titans.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. Yes. Good one.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
How about... She didn't do that much after that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I saw a preview for this today when I may actually watch it. Owen Wilson in The Intern. Or The Interns or whatever it's called.
SPEAKER 15 :
My gosh. You just mentioned the actor I'm about to mention.
SPEAKER 16 :
Really?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. Owen Wilson in Zoolander.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Richard Goh.
SPEAKER 20 :
Dukes of Hazzard, Jessica Simpson.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. That one counts. Let's see. This will probably be our last one, then I'll let Richard go. Red Sparrow. Oh. Main actor is blonde.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Richard, I'll let you go. Have a good weekend. Stay safe with all the snow and everything.
SPEAKER 20 :
See you guys. All right.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, got roughly a minute or so left, Andy. Couple from listeners. Go. Shanghai Nights is one that came in. Yep, yep. Parent Trap. Ooh, yeah. The Boy in Blue Lagoon.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hayley Mills.
SPEAKER 16 :
Boy in Blue Lagoon and then Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, which I don't know that movie at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, here's a few. How about Splash with Daryl Hannah? Oh, good one. Austin Power 2 with Heather Graham. Dukes of Hazzard, Jennifer Simpson. Jessica Simpson, sorry. The Girl Next Door, Elisha Cuthbert. Sleepy Hollow with Christina Ricci, L.A. Confidential, Kim Basinger, Greatest Showman with Michelle Williams, and I'm going to do three with Meg Ryan, Sleepless in Seattle, IQ, You've Got Mail, and one more, When Harry Met Sally. Go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Troy, Happy Gilmore, Private Benjamin, Scarface with Michelle Pfeiffer, Grease 2, Out of Africa, Just Go With It with Jennifer Aniston, The Breakup, Knives Out, and The Avatar, and I'll let you finish up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, here we go. Clueless. Roxanne with Daryl Hannah. Let's see here. Six Days, Seven Nights. Remember that one? Oh, good one. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Battleship. Remember her? The Blind Side. The Postman. Always Rings Twice. Lady Bird with Saoirse Ronan. And Little Shop of Horrors with Ellen Green.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good job, guys. That's it for the week. I'll be back, by the way, first thing in the morning, Fix It Radio. Got some great tips, by the way, on the whole insurance end of things, appraisals, how to keep things safe and so on as far as the fires go, and then followed up by Drive Radio right after that. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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You always have to err on the side of more freedom and less regulation. If you don't know the answer, then don't do it. If you don't know how it's going to turn out, then don't do it. I don't like TikTok and I loathe the CCP. But I also realize that the CCP is not the only entity that's spying on us. Our federal government spied on us. And I'm not I'm not saying this. We literally have a guy who's running the auditing department of the government now who is creating a database of everybody who got the vaccine and was going to track it in a giant database. And he ran for president on the Republican side and is super popular amongst Republicans. I'm not saying that to be mean. I'm just saying that some people's perspectives might be a little skewed. I mean, you either hate surveillance entities and products that are designed for surveillance or you want to make the people behind them president of the United States. I mean, you know, I just don't know. And like I said, I realize it's not just the CCP that's spying on us. It's our own damn government that's spying on us. The FBI was using the first thing we messed up, the Patriot Act, to spy on parents, parents, people who would like go to Walmart and pick up dog food and pick up their kid from, you know, football practice or baseball practice or cheerleading or whatever. And they would go to the parent teacher meetings and do all this. Well, they got very upset. that age-inappropriate material was being presented to their children through a taxpayer-funded library without parental consent. And when they spoke up about it, they were tagged as domestic terrorists. The dad whose daughter was raped, like actually raped in a bathroom by a male student who decided he wanted to be female for a while, that guy was considered a domestic terrorist by the FBI. Oh, the FBI doesn't like it. They think it's bigoted if parents want to keep their kids from getting molested. How bigoted are you? These parents are labeled. The government surveilled them. As I said, no, it's not just the CCP that is spying on us. As a firearm owner who was once declared by a sitting member of the House of Representatives to be a domestic terrorist, a terrorist along with all of you terrorists, I have covered the stories where you would have the ATF show up at actual legitimate gun shows, people who are not doing anything wrong, taking plate numbers. So the federal government only dislikes surveillance when they're not the ones doing it. And I don't want to hear, I can already hear some contrarian building up an argument, but the United States isn't the CCP. And that's the point. We're trying to keep it from being that way. Now, the tricky issue in this whole debate centers on the fact that it's China. Now, I agree with both of these positions for and against the legislation. I also don't think that foreign entities should be afforded any consideration of our republic's rights. I don't think they're a foreign entity from a foreign adversary. I think that our federal government should be able to tell them no. So there's the one little wrinkle in all this. Because the CCP hates you. They would love to see you subjugated. They would love to see what was the line from Conan the Barbarian. My enemy is right before me. You know, blah, blah, blah, all that. They would love to see that. It's the CCP. There's the Republicans are not even on the same page on this. And this is a major problem. I get that everybody is so eager to flex and either show their muscles or show their ass on social media. Everybody is thirsty for clicks now that it's all been monetized and incentivized and everyone is an insufferable individual brand. I get it. But it's one thing when you have – An epic butt ton of elected officials out there saying, oh, my gosh, this is so bad. It's so bad. We shouldn't we shouldn't have the CCP do it. We can't have the CCP on this. This is just so bad. We can't they can't be able to operate in here like this. And then the vice president of China is attending the inauguration. The CEO of TikTok is going to be actually on the dais. Not even an actual American, but somebody who's from a geopolitical foe is going to be on the dais. I mean, there are some of you who aren't even going to be on the dais, but CCP people are going to be on the dais. And there's been a proposed reduction in tariffs from 60 to 10 percent against China. So they're not on the same page. And you have the president himself who used to dislike TikTok, but now he's a big supporter of it. No one's on the same page, so no one knows what to do. Republicans are all over. They're all over the place on this. Predictably, I have never seen any party so damn stupid and so eager to throw its own self under the bus. Not like we talk about the idiocy of the Democrats and it's deserved. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Smartwatch bands can contain major levels of toxic PFAS, PFASis. According to The Guardian. So these are the forever chemicals. I'm trying to actually get away from all things plastic. But they said that smartwatch and fitness tracker bands. But what if they're silicone? Really?
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Pafasas.
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Is Pafasas? Are Pafasas in?
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In everything.
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In the silicone bands? Well, I wear metal now, but I don't know. They said, or like rubber, they said that the natural rubber won't likely contain PFASs, but the chemicals are likely in the synthetic to prevent sweat stains and dirt buildup over time. Rain, hiking gear, waterproofing agents. I mean, is it that big of a deal? I mean, we're all going to die from something. Is it that big of a deal? I don't know. I don't know what to think about it.
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I don't want to die from that, though.
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Let's just all wear armor and everything metal. Oh, guess what? Then we'll get metal poisoning or something will happen. Just wait. Let's see. Modern solutions sometimes require medieval. Modern problems require medieval solutions. Bloodletting has been recommended for New Jersey residents after PFAS contamination.
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Eh.
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Their private drinking water, it was polluted by the use of firefighting foams that contain forever chemicals. And now they've been literally recommending bloodletting to reduce high concentration of forever chemicals. Like, isn't that what the leeches can do?
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I'm going to bleed you. I'm going to put these wee little slimy bugs on your arms and legs. They're going to eat all your blood and get the professors out. That's what's going to happen. They, uh... Here, let me try to read this sentence. That's the correct pronunciation. What if you get stuck in your lymph nodes and you're just letting out blood that's good? Oh, that's a great point. Escape cow. It drops by Kansas State University campus. An escaped cow. It was tagged. It was just minding its own business. It was wandering through. It was there. They were able to get it and take it back, but they got it under a trailer. Man, horrible news. Horrible news. Welcome back. Dana Lash. At the bottom of this second hour, David Lynch has passed away. The legendary... Director, writer. I think most people knew him from Eraserhead and Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks, obviously, which is how I Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway. Oh, my gosh. He was he's one of my favorite directors. I've seen everything that he's done. He's crazy. And I loved it. He's so my kids are like, we do not, especially the second Twin Peaks. They're like, well, it's David Bowie's voice as like a machine ghost. What in the world? but he had been diagnosed with emphysema. He smoked all his life, and he wasn't able to direct anymore, and then he announced that he was going to be leaving his house. His family announced on Facebook his passing. They said, quote, it is with deep regret that we, his family, announced the passing of the man and the artist, David Lynch. We would appreciate privacy. I love this. They said, there's a big hole in the world now that he's no longer with us, but as he would say, keep your eye on the donut and not on the hole. They said it's a beautiful day with golden sunshine and blue skies all the way. He has on X. He would announce that it's Friday every day or every week. It's Friday and his, you know, his typical style. He was and he wasn't a woke. He was not a woke scold. I think that he was actually pretty libertarian. He was not a woke scold at all. And he never got super political. He was just very practical and common sense. But he did some really crazy stuff. I mean, film noir, he was able to put together like thriller and whodunit and the film noir, horror, all of it into one thing, like an amalgam. And he really, I think, defied a lot of... the rules of various genres. He's just, he, Quentin Tarantino, these are some of my absolute favorite directors. And, uh, he worked as, I mean, he did stuff as a, uh, an artist too. He painted a whole bunch of stuff. Eraserhead was his first, the first thing that he did. Um, And it got a cult following over the years. Mulholland Drive was crazy. And Lost Highway was almost impossible to follow. But it was still really well done. He just did some really great stuff. And Twin Peaks. Everything from the music to the casting to the story, as crazy down into the wormhole as you got with Twin Peaks, it still made sense. And you wanted more at the end of every episode. I mean, Agent Cooper, Kyle McClanahan played Agent Cooper brilliantly. And Sherilyn Fenn was always amazing. I mean, the way that he handled that whole series, my parents let me watch that when I was a kid because that was like, I think I was in sixth grade when it came out. Because it only ran for two seasons. And I think I was in sixth going into seventh grade. And my parents let me watch Twin Peaks, and I was just riveted. And my mom let me watch whatever. And then I had to go and see everything that he did. But he also did... He worked with Mel Brooks on a film about the guy who was the Elephant Man. I can't remember the guy's name, who actually was the Elephant Man. He's done all kinds of stuff. But... And then Dune. I mean, Twin Peaks is the thing that he's like memed for, I think. And then Bob Euchre passed away. So remember my grandma's rule of three, guys. So my grandmother, if you're just joining us, welcome back. Dana Lash with you. My grandmother has a rule with celebrity deaths. It's always in threes. God love her. Rest her soul. She was a crazy, morbid woman. Loved her. But that was her role. And whenever you would, if anybody, if they're like, oh, so-and-so passed, like a famous person or even someone that wasn't famous that she just knew, she would go, well, that's one or that's two. Like she was heaven's, you know, she was the one keeping track for heaven. It was funny. So who he got in the death pool, man? Who's next? There's going to be a third. That's going to be a third.
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It's morbid.
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It's the way the world works. I don't make the rules.
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Even ask that is morbid.
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Bob Uecker, who, by the way, hasn't he been alive for forever? Yeah. Can I just I'm not saying this to be mean. Bob Uecker was an old man when I was a kid.
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And he's still an old man was, you know, until just like now. But yeah. Wow. Wow. So who's the third? Steve, you got any ideas? Oh, man.
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I hope it's not a musician. There's always the worst for me.
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Yeah. Musicians are bad. I mean, if they're like these two are. I mean, I didn't follow Bob Uecker, but he always seemed good natured and he made stuff fun. But man, David Lynch, that's gosh dang. I loved his. It's a Friday. I loved his. Oh, I'm sad now. But there's got to be a third one. I don't want to like Google like for old sick celebrities, but yeah, who's going to die next.com. I feel like I have to deliver everything in the, for the rest of the show in a David Lynch style. Now who's going to die next. Oh, keep your eye on the donut. Not the hole. That's a, I think I need to cross stitch that. Yeah, that's sage advice. That would be, you know what, for the Patch Ops guys, that would be a good patch. Keep your eye on the donut, not the hole. That's so great. But you know that if you wear something like that at SHOT Show, everybody there is going to take it the wrong way on purpose. Joyously so. You know that, right? All right. So we had David Lynch has passed away. Variety, they announced it on Facebook and then Variety confirmed it because I don't think a lot of people were believing it. Uh, and, uh, just the famous, like one of the, one of the great 78 years old. And then of course you have Bob Uger, uh, and everybody, I think everybody knows who Bob Uger is, but he's passed away. How old was Bob Uger? He was 90, right? Yeah. He was like 90 years old. Uh, but he's been around for forever. I mean, I remember him from major league and he was, he's always been the same age, uh, He was born with gray hair. I'm positive that he was born like a 50-year-old man. I feel like he was because he's never, literally never changed.
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I've looked back at pictures like when you see old professional football player photos from when they were in college, and they looked like they were 45 in college. How does that happen?
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Oh, man. So that's... Yeah, so that's some of the latest. Well, gosh dang, I'm going to miss his Friday announcements. Those were the best. And I liked Bob Euchre when he was broadcasting. But he hadn't broadcast a lot, though, the last year of his life, I don't think. Last couple of years, if memory serves.
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When it comes to technology, we have so much concern about China and Russia and our adversaries and what they're doing and how we need to counter them. I have absolute confidence that we can and will. There's only one country in the world that can parallel park a 200 foot rocket booster. The Chinese can't do it, the Russians can't do it. We do it and we do it in part because of the great collaboration we have and can have a need to deepen between the private sector where there's so much innovation and ingenuity in the space of emerging technologies and I'm committed as CIA director if allowed to expanding upon that.
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So that's John Ratcliffe. I like him as CIA director. I think he's he's a really good pick and remember he was one of the only people that was really sounding the alarm on the laptop. Remember all of that in the very beginning? It was also Cloak & Dagger. And we had John Ratcliffe on. We had Nunez on. We had a lot of people on talking about that, when all that happened. And it was just so Cloak & Dagger. It was kind of crazy. But he's such a good pick, and he made such a great point. Who else can parallel park... A rocket. And that is true. I mean, it simultaneously scares the hell out of me when I see it because it's so weird looking. But then it also is is actually pretty cool that we can do that. And of course, this kicks off one of the larger conversations that we're going to have today as it pertains to. The banning of TikTok. This is such a big discussion and it's so nuanced. And we're going to talk we're going to talk about it here coming up throughout the program. We also later on in the program, we're going to talk with John Cornyn and we're also going to talk with Senator John Cornyn and Congressman Jim Jordan and Cornyn. He's got a concealed carry bill. That he's pushing for. We're going to get into all of that because I'm just curious as to this legislation. So we've got a lot to hit. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you at the top of this first hour. And that's the big issue because the Supreme Court has... Well, they've they've made a made a ruling in this in this tick tock. I don't I'm not on tick tock. I just and I'm so glad that I'm not because it's shutting down Sunday. And regardless, whatever Trump does with it, there's at least going to be some time where it has to be off the app store. So because of the because the Supreme Court and it was a nine oh decision, which is really weird. I mean, not weird in that it's never happened, but it's really, really unusual that it was a full 9-0 ruling. I mean, every single justice. So they upheld the previous ruling as it pertains to TikTok being available in the United States. And they did so through a national security consideration. It's a NATSEC issue. And I understand the arguments that, for, made by those who say that it should be banned. I completely understand that argument because it's a national security issue. We've talked to Steven Yates, who is, he is a foremost expert. There are a lot of talking heads out there about this. Steven Yates was, you know, buried in Southeast Asia. I mean, he's lived and worked over there. He knows China extensively. He's counseled two separate presidential administrations in addition to a lot of other government folks. So he knows the issue. And I agree that it is dangerous brainwashing. China refused to disengage and de-invest TikTok from ByteDance. They wouldn't sell it. They wouldn't sell it because they know it's a surveillance apparatus. But, but, but, there's a giant but coming. Shut up, Cain. You're five years old. I get it. I totally get it. A NatSec issue. And this is a foreign entity. This is a foreign adversary who is using this as a PSYOP tool in the United States just to put it as simply as possible. I totally get that. I also get how this legislation is overly broad and can be weaponized later on down the road to shut down companies that the United States deems to be a national security threat. And so this is where I think the Patriot Act, a lot of us were coming up in to adulthood and into politics when the Patriot Act was passed, yours truly included. And it always, the thing that always stuck in the back of my mind with that was Ben Franklin's quote, You know, if you think that you can give up liberty for some security, you deserve neither because you will not get either. And that makes sense because I think everyone is sort of freaking out right now. And I get it because you've had a really weak administration. It's an administration that hasn't prioritized security. national security. It's an administration that allowed all these balloons, these spy balloons to fly through the atmosphere. We have this drone issue. Notice how we never got an issue about the drones or an answer. It just went away. We literally never got any answers about drones. It was just speculation and then the story just legit disappeared. I said literally too many. I hit my quota. But you get it. I mean, it is literally. Poof! It's out of the headlines. So I get why people want to immediately react to this. But I think everybody needs to take a breath because yes, everything I've just said is true. You can have two different analyses of this issue and they are both correct. But there's, yeah, you know, there's a big giant however in this. You always have to err on the side of more freedom and less regulation. If you don't know the answer, then don't do it. If you don't know how it's going to turn out, then don't do it. I don't like TikTok and I loathe the CCP. But I also realize that the CCP is not the only entity that's spying on us. Our federal government spied on us. And I'm not I'm not saying this. We literally have a guy who's running the auditing department of the government now who is creating a database of everybody who got the vaccine and was going to track it in a giant database. And he ran for president on the Republican side and is super popular amongst Republicans. I'm not saying that to be mean. I'm just saying that some people's perspectives might be a little skewed. I mean, you either hate surveillance entities and products that are designed for surveillance or you want to make the people behind them president of the United States. I mean, you know, I just don't know. And like I said, I realize it's not just the CCP that's spying on us. It's our own damn government that's spying on us. The FBI was using the first thing we messed up, the Patriot Act, to spy on parents, parents, people who would like go to Walmart and pick up dog food and pick up their kid from, you know, football practice or baseball practice or cheerleading or whatever. And they would go to the parent teacher meetings and do all this. Well, they got very upset. that age-inappropriate material was being presented to their children through a taxpayer-funded library without parental consent. And when they spoke up about it, they were tagged as domestic terrorists. The dad whose daughter was raped, like actually raped in a bathroom by a male student who decided he wanted to be female for a while, that guy was considered a domestic terrorist by the FBI. Oh, the FBI doesn't like it. They think it's bigoted if parents want to keep their kids from getting molested. How bigoted are you? These parents are labeled. The government surveilled them. As I said, no, it's not just the CCP that is spying on us. As a firearm owner who was once declared by a sitting member of the House of Representatives to be a domestic terrorist, a terrorist along with all of you terrorists, I have covered the stories where you would have the ATF show up at actual legitimate gun shows, people who are not doing anything wrong, taking plate numbers. So the federal government only dislikes surveillance when they're not the ones doing it. And I don't want to hear, I can already hear some contrarian building up an argument, but the United States isn't the CCP. And that's the point. We're trying to keep it from being that way. Now, the tricky issue in this whole debate centers on the fact that it's China. Now, I agree with both of these positions for and against the legislation. I also don't think that foreign entities should be afforded any consideration of our republic's rights. I don't think you're you are there a foreign entity from a foreign adversary. I think that our federal government should be able to tell them no. So there's the one little wrinkle in all this. Because the CCP hates you. They would love to see you subjugated. They would love to see, what was the line from Conan the Barbarian? My enemies ride before me, blah, blah, blah, all that. They would love to see that. It's the CCP. The Republicans are not even on the same page on this, and this is a major problem. I get that everybody's so eager to flex and either show their muscles or show their ass on social media. You know, everybody's thirsty for clicks now that it's all been monetized and incentivized and everyone is an insufferable individual brand. I get it. But it's one thing when you have an epic butt ton of elected officials out there saying, oh, my gosh, this is so bad. It's so bad. We shouldn't we shouldn't have the CCP do it. We can't have the CCP on this. This is just so bad. We can't they can't be able to operate in here like this. And then the vice president of China is attending the inauguration. The CEO of TikTok is going to be actually on the dais. Not even an actual American, but somebody who's from a geopolitical foe is going to be on the dais. I mean, there are some of you who aren't even going to be on the dais, but CCP people are going to be on the dais. And there's been a proposed reduction in tariffs from 60 to 10 percent against China. So they're not on the same page. And you have the president himself who used to dislike TikTok, but now he's a big supporter of it. No one's on the same page, so no one knows what to do. Republicans are all over. They're all over the place on this. Predictably, I have never seen any party so damn stupid and so eager to throw its own self under the bus. We talk about the idiocy of the Democrats and it's deserved. But we have to, for one moment, in the name of accountability, as your God-given right, as an American taxpaying citizen, talk about the stupidity of the GOP for a moment. This is all over the place. They hate China. They love China. They hate China. They love China. They hate TikTok. They love TikTok. Would you like to be on the dais for the inauguration? I'm confused. I'm confused. We're going to talk to Jim Jordan about all of this. Like I said, I understand all of these arguments. It's very rare that I meet an issue that I've read so much about and I've followed it and I've been waiting until this decision for us to throw ourselves into it. And I see, but there's the little wrinkle that I mentioned. I mean, it's the CCP. Why the hell should I give communists any consideration? Why? This is just really weird. So the Republicans are not at all unified on this. We're going to talk more about it. Also coming up. Oh, boy. There's a hit piece that came out from The Guardian. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so first and foremost, inauguration temperatures are going to be the lowest since 1985. Everyone's like, are you going to D.C.? I don't need to be seen on stage. With politicians. I don't need to do any of that to keep my influence or relevancy. In fact, I think it hurts me if I do. And I hate cold weather. And I don't like DC traffic. All of those things conspire. That's why I'm not going. Also, we're going to be at SHOT Show. But they said it's the lowest since 1985. And they're actually moving the swearing-in process inside. They're not going to be doing it all outside. So I don't know what that's going to look like. I've never seen that. The only other time that I read that this was done, I think it was Axios that said that it was Reagan who did it. And I was like, a bebe. So I don't remember that. So I don't know what that looks like. So that's going to be kind of interesting to see. Also, there's New York City mayor gets his eyebrows done. He got them threaded. Why? As like a way to show... I don't know. He decided to clean up too and I guess give some business. I don't know. I just don't think a man needs to get his eyebrows thrown out. There's a million things that you could do, dude. Let's see. Wall Street thinks U.S. homes are overpriced, and that's wild because we've all thought that for a very long time. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us because we've got everything. Inauguration stuff, TikTok, so much more coming. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver. to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company, Goldco, to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com.
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And look, the other thing, Lawrence, I got a lot of criticism, understandably. We've invested more in red states than blue states. That's in this book. That's in this report. For two reasons. One, red states really screwed up in terms of the way they handled their economy and the way they handle manufacturing and the way they handle access to supply chains. You know, I remember being out in Iowa and I remember one of the big issues was that There was a plant, a small plant for 300 people, been around for 70 years. My grandfather worked there. I worked there. My son works there. And then they had the best education system at the time and rated the best state education system in the country. And all of a sudden, the kid comes home after he graduates. Mom, I got to leave. There's no job for me here. The factory shut down. Well, guess what? How do you run a country that way?
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I'm so tired of this myth about the blue state, red state welfare scheme. I mean, this is asinine. And first off, welcome back to the program, Dana Lash, with you. That's going soon to be former... Soon, soon. Former President Biden. Sorry, current for like another couple of days. And that's it. Biden, who repeated this and pulling up there. He repeated that. Oh, yeah. Red states really screwed up. You know, they get, you know, so much more. That's just it's a lie. First off, I mean, it's a non sequitur. The revenue that's collected from state taxpayers, all of that stuff, that depends on state income and federal tax. That's at a higher rate on filers with higher income. So you have there's a lot of stuff to look at this. Like I was looking at this thing from the Mises Institute that was that they went and were comparing literally every state. A federal dollar, federal spending received for every dollar collected by state. And. First off, the data doesn't really back up that claim. One of the things that they noted was of the 50 states, there are a handful of red states that get some federal spending, more spending than what their residents pay in federal taxes, but that's not a uniform thing across every red state. And It's I mean, you have to get into a state by state comparison, which is what they did, looking at return on taxes paid, how much states are getting in federal spending for federal dollars extracted in those taxes. And they looked at the tax collections from each to each state as the IRS has reported. And then they looked at the federal spending in each state. And they said that the overwhelming, you know, and looking at this. They put it all together. They said, for instance, federal spending in Minnesota amounted for about 48 cents for every tax dollar extracted from the state. Mississippi received more than $3 for every tax dollar paid by residents. But contrary to the idea that most red states are like Mississippi, most states are actually much closer to the middle. The states that are within a few cents of receiving dollar for dollar include the Dakotas, North Carolina, Nevada, Wisconsin, Missouri, Utah, Maryland, Kansas, and Florida. California and Texas are approximately equal with each other, each receiving about 80 cents in federal spending for every dollar paid by residents and taxes. And this is this stupid false. you know, narrative. They've been trying to push for forever to fuel this blue state versus red state thing. And it's not. It definitely isn't. You have to also look at the balance of payment ratios. There's a lot of stuff that that comes into this. And also they tax the hell out of their people. California, New York, does California, hang on, let me look. I think California has a higher, sorry, tax rate. I was looking at this because I also know that they increased it as recently. Okay, so California, their income tax rate is 13.3. Hawaii's at 11. New York is at 10.9. New York is actually behind Hawaii and California. I'm actually shocked. I'm not surprised that Hawaii's so far up there. So I'm not, I'm really not surprised with that. Wow.
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13.3%.
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That's insane. But also look at the deficit that California is running. I mean, Biden can go and say this stuff in an interview, but why don't you also compare not only the GDP of each state, but also why don't you go and look at if they're in the red or in the black. Look at how they spend their money. California wasted, what did we say they wasted? It was almost $13 billion. $13 billion. 13 billion for 12 years. That's like a billion dollars a year on a high-speed rail that they built less than a mile of. Not even a mile. Was it a quarter of a mile? And it was an overpass. It wasn't even just like a rail that when you consider the spending. But they look at it like one of the things that they incorporate into this, too, is disaster spending. So like hurricanes in Florida and things like that, they try to act like that's red states being irresponsible. Which is asinine. I mean, the low income states get more federal money than higher income states because of the means tested federal property programs that they also have. And that also comes into it. There are a number of things that come into it. I don't know why he's still pushing this. I mean, it's a red herring of red state bailout because they don't understand apparently what federal bailout of states actually looks like. You're redistributing tax dollars from taxpayers in responsible states to states that refuse to make those choices, like the difficult decisions when everything was good and they could absorb anything. It's just such a stupidest thing. I'm going to put the misest thing. I'll put that in a newsletter for subscribers. But it's just... I'm so tired of hearing this. The other part of what he said... when he was talking about the blue state handling of their economy. Well, North Carolina is governed by Democrats. Florida is governed by Republicans. North Carolina didn't have enough even in rainy day funds, apparently, from what has been reported to even begin handling some of this stuff in the manner that Florida was able to mobilize so quickly and have everything funded and have all the resources necessary. If you want to have a discussion about how states operate, I mean, we have a major... ongoing lesson plan and how states operate. California doesn't even have enough money to put water in their reservoirs. But you're going to use that as a model of more responsibility than a state like Florida, which was so completely overprepared that they were also able to form the bulk of response in a number of other states that were affected by the same disaster, disastrous hurricane that affected them. And you're going to base it on like federal the federal. And I just I it's it's frustrating to me. There is an economic illiteracy. I mean, to get into I mean, I don't want to go into it by state by state. But look, when you look at the number, like, for instance, taxes, taxes, California, looking at Texas, Mississippi, West Virginia, South Carolina, California. This is from Rockefeller Institute of Government, a report that came out just a couple of years ago. In federal taxes, Connecticut paid over 15,000. Massachusetts paid over 13,000. New Jersey paid over 13,000. New York over almost 13,000. California residents over 10. Mississippi, they were over five. West Virginia was over six. Kentucky was over six. South Carolina paid about 6,500. And That is the amount of taxes that they're paying in. You also have to look at tax rates per state. There's a lot of stuff that goes into this. But, you know, all I hear about are blue states bitching that they pay more in taxes because they're too stupid to elect better officials. That's what it comes down to. Correct me if I'm wrong, Cain, but that's what it comes down to. This... I get so aggravated when people try to shame... Red states for being more financially responsible. Biden gave an interview. Is that his last interview? I don't think he's giving anymore. He's got to be at the inauguration. I don't know how he's going to sit through that. Yeah. And then they do the whole it's the weird send off. When the incoming president meets the outgoing president and then the outgoing president gets in the chopper and leaves. I remember when W when that happened with the Obamas and W got in the chopper and flew off. Marine one is last time flew off and the crowd there were. They were rude. They were ignorant. I will never forget that. And you don't have to like W or whatever. I hate when people are like, well, I don't like Georgia. Just shut up. They're not about you. It's the fact that they were like booing and braying like donkeys and heckling as he went and got in the chopper. It was so loud. It was audible on all the coverage. Everybody could hear it. Can you imagine if they did that to Obama? Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine? By the way... There was an interview with Melania Trump and she was talking about how awkward it was when they met the Obamas and they were going into the White House for the first time. Do you all remember the Tiffany box? I think it was a Tiffany frame, not a cheap thing, that Melania Trump gifted Michelle Obama because she said in the lead up to that interview, optic, that handoff, they had tried to talk to the Obamas about the day of transition because that's kind of normal for ingoing and outgoing couples to have that conversation. And apparently, according to her interview, Melania Trump said that Michelle Obama, they were not helpful. And that's one of the reasons why it's not custom to bring a gift and give it right there. But she didn't know that because she couldn't get any answers from anybody. So she was just falling back on good manners. That's what you give someone a gift. It's a partying gift, a housewarming, whatever, however you want to look at it. She was just falling back on good manners since she couldn't get any answers as to the protocol of exactly how that moment happens. And what is so frustrating is that even going back to W, W did that with the Obamas. They spoke about the protocol of that day and what that handoff looks like, because he, you know, for all the criticism against him, he he wanted it to be an easy transition. And he just thought it was petty, especially since they had young kids coming into the White House. It would have that's petty. And it's and he just didn't see the point of it. But the Obamas didn't reciprocate when the Trumps came in. I mean, I know everyone sits here and talks about Obama and Trump being, you know, BFFs now because they shared a laugh at the funeral of Carter. But I think some people are forgetting what how really caustic and the animosity that existed when that handoff happened. So apparently that's why there was that weird moment with the gift. And when she handed it to Michelle Obama, Michelle Obama was I thought she was kind of theatrical about it. And that, oh, I don't know what to do with this. This is I don't know. And then she ended up handing it off to Obama. And I guess he handed it to an aide. But I just thought that it looked weird without any commentary when you watched it. It was weird to watch. Do you remember that, Kane? And apparently it was because they just didn't have time to have a discussion about protocol for that handoff with the Trumps when it happened. Like no one was bringing them up to speed. That's just that's a jerk move. It's like Kamala Harris refusing to invite the Vance's to the vice president's house to even let their young kids see where they're going to be living and help make the transition easier. And then she bitches when she's asked about it. She sends out an aide to to to whine and whinge. Oh, well, you know, Mike Pence didn't do that with us. And then Mike Pence who for look, Mike Pence will tell on himself. I do think he's an honest guy. I don't agree with him on everything, but I think sometimes he's insufferably honest. And he was even like, we extended to you multiple invitations. What are you talking about? I don't believe her for a second. And I don't believe for a second that the pincers didn't extend to them an invitation to do the same thing. But even if, why does that give you license to be a jerk to the next person who had nothing to do with how you were treated under pence? That is small bitch thinking. And it needs to be said in that exact terminology. I'm so tired of this stuff. I'm so tired of the pettiness from these people. Democrats get petty and then they turn around and they demand that Republicans act like saints. And while we should always have good behavior simply because it's the right thing to do, it's easy to measure yourself against a Democrat. You're always going to come out on top. It's like when, what was it, when Jesus said it's easy to love people who don't love you or to love you, but it's harder to love people who don't love you. It's harder to be nicer to people who are not nice to you. So we should, that's the standard we should be going for. That said, I'm so tired of these Democrats demanding that we expect you to abide by rules that we refuse to acknowledge. It's they make they make something that is already stressful, more difficult because they just have to get a dig in. It doesn't matter. I cannot stand that. So I don't know what the handoff is going to look like on this. Right. This is going to be a weird moment. What is the Biden Trump handoff going to look like? I don't know. I got some. Oh, that's the moment that I'm waiting to see is just that. Just that. I'm waiting to see that. I have zero problem at all with using lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones. 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This is our last show of the Biden administration. Yeah, it's been a good run. It's been a good run, Joe. Thank you. Thank you for all your efforts. The next time, next time. Next time you all see me, Donald Trump will be president. And you may not see me. Next four years. Next four years. We're taking this one day at a time.
SPEAKER 21 :
Don't threaten me with a good time. I mean, if we can't, you may not see me again. Okay. He's one of the most insufferable, annoying people. He's not funny. I think when he first started, Stephen Colbert was funny, and then he just turned into this annoying dude. He's like the dude that you come across at a party who constantly wants to share his opinions and will not leave you alone, doesn't understand personal space, and his breath's bad. Right? I think I got him pegged. Oof, maybe I shouldn't say that with him. But... No puns. The... Are you okay? The, um... tone like his tone even is just grating but he he like traded funny to be just a jerk over politics that's not saying stupid stuff about politics doesn't make you a comedian it doesn't mean that you're funny i i don't understand his appeal i really don't like there are people who are on the left that are are funny he is just not one of them i just i just don't get the appeal you know he makes probably millions of dollars for doing that show I can't hardly play a clip of him on air. I just tune out because it's never funny. He's just not funny. He's not a funny guy. All right, so coming up, we've got a lot to hit. We're going to be speaking with Congressman Jim Jordan at the bottom of the hour. So there's the hostage negotiation, the reconciliation. There's all kinds of stuff, TikTok. And then after that, Senator John Cornyn. He's got a... to a bill we're going to talk to him about that i think they were a little uh they didn't know if they were going to come on or not but he's going to come on we're going to talk about that later on as well stick with us more to come it's our friends over at all family pharmacy this is such a great service you need to memorize the website they make it so easy all family pharmacy helped my family out a lot over thanksgiving because you know right on thanksgiving when offices are closed and you end up getting sick it's just it's a mess and you got to get medicine all family pharmacy made it super easy And you can visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Use code Dana and you'll get 10% off of your entire order. So this is affordable access, easy and cost effective for medicine. You don't have to break the bank to access these medicines. There's no red tape. There's no hassle. Everything's made in the USA. You're not getting Chinese antibiotics. It's not how that's working. They got a proven track record. And you work with their doctors. Their doctors get you the medication that you need. Fast delivery right to your door. You can even overnight stuff if needed. And you can rely on all family pharmacy to keep your health needs on track. If you need antibiotics, if you need things like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, which is actually a good antiviral, you can get those at All Family Pharmacy. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Get 10% off using code Dana. 10% off your purchase using code Dana10. It's Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order only at allfamilypharma.com slash Dana.
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There's two things I'm proud of so far. I know they'll last. We changed the basic formula of how to make an economy work. The trickle-down stuff about, well, let the people go out and make a lot of money and the benefits will flow from that will trickle down to middle class and working class people. My dad used to say, not a lot ever trickle down his kitchen table.
SPEAKER 21 :
Because he doesn't know how trickle-down economics work. What are you talking about? Do you not understand how it works? They think I love the left because they're so economically illiterate. They're like, well, trickle down must mean it physically literally trickles down. It should be raining trickle down dollars on me like money at a strip club. So what it should be like. That's how the left thinks. Everything has to be like a bunch of damn Amelia Bedelia is out there. You guys remember that story? You got to be real careful what you tell Amelia Bedelia, because like AOC, she'll take it literally. What do you mean pull up by my bit straps? My bit straps aren't that long. What? Oh my gosh. Welcome back to the show. We're at the top of the second hour. I just, whenever he talks about money, I just get mad. I can't help it. I'm tired of financing. I'm tired of providing welfare for Ukraine and paying the pensions of their oligarchs. I'm done. So welcome back to the program. Your lovable curmudgeon Dana Lash here with you this lovely Friday. It's going to be minus 11 degrees in Texas next week and I'm Look, I would love to see. It'd be neat to see. I don't know if I'd love it. It'd be neat to watch an inauguration. But I feel like you watch it on the TV. It's the same thing. There is nothing that I love enough to go stand in the frigid cold like that and watch. There's nothing. Because they're cold even like on a random average January day. It's freezing out there. And Steve, what's the temperature going to be Monday? Like negative 11-D, right?
SPEAKER 23 :
It's supposed to get snow Sunday, and then it's supposed to get cold coming in Monday. I think it's going to be like 15 or 16, something like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Above or below zero?
SPEAKER 23 :
Let me pull my phone. Not that low.
SPEAKER 21 :
Probably like below. I don't even know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my gosh. I was hearing like potentially next week some negative temperatures.
SPEAKER 23 :
It says, yeah. How in the world? During the ceremony, it's going to be 19 here. Lowest 10.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, my heavens.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's below zero Celsius.
SPEAKER 21 :
I would look like a cult member. I would be wrapped up in the blanket onesie. The Snuggie? The Snuggie. Dude, I'd be in a Snuggie. You know you can get the little personal heaters? I have a friend who, when my youngest was playing soccer, and I got the idea from her, I watched her come to the soccer field one day. Yeah, soccer mom. And she set up a tent that was like smaller and shorter than like a Johnny on the spot. And she had a folding chair. It was like a single person tent. What? And it had a battery, like a generator, and it put heat in it. And she sat in her little tent. I'm like, only in Texas would I see this. I won't. And she sat there and, I mean, you could hear the noise. And she sat away from where the coach was so he could talk to the players because it did make some noise. She sat there in her little, it was the funniest thing. And we could see her in her little windows in the tent. We could just see her sitting there all warm and hateful. Anyway, my whole point in saying that is I would have to have that. You know, like stick me in the little tent and I'll just sit there in the little tent and I'll look at you through my little plastic windows and I'll do that. That's the only way to do it. By the way, you can get them things on Amazon. Oh, believe your girl has researched it. It's just really difficult to find it not made in China. Like the closest one I could get was like part something made in like the tent was made in Vietnam and you could get something like the parts of the make it run in Taiwan. And that's like as close, which is good. That's as close as I could get. But most everything, it's all made, everything's made in China. Like almost everything on Amazon is made in China.
SPEAKER 15 :
Share that link with me.
SPEAKER 21 :
Where would you wear that? Where would you take that? I don't know. You got to sit in it.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's for sitting. It would open up more fishing time.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, I guess you could stand in it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I could literally fish from it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I mean, you could.
SPEAKER 15 :
There are times that I don't go fishing because it's too cold. But now this?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
This?
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, it is quite practical.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm a little upset I didn't invent it. You know, it's kind of sad. Anyway, so what was I talking about? Oh, my gosh. By the way, Vegas Larry was telling us that for SHOT Show, while it's going to be like ridiculously cold here, Kane, it's going to be in the upper fitties there. Oh, really? I have no idea what I'm going to pack for SHOT Show. I know we got meat and potatoes, but indulge me for a second.
SPEAKER 15 :
Upper fitties is still cold for you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, my gosh. Yes. So you'll have to probably... It's the difference between not a full-length coat and a full-length coat.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. But a coat on all the same. Do you have a puffy coat?
SPEAKER 21 :
Dude.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. So you probably want to bring the puffy coat.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. I can zip literally my whole self up except for like a little spot for my face and just... It just works perfect. So that's going to it's going to be it's going to be a weird shot show because it's like off an election year. And, you know, we've got some we've got some court cases that are going to be coming through. We got some lawmakers that are going to be trying to push. So John Cornyn is coming on at the in our third hour and he's got a bill that he's introducing and it's. very odd. It's a concealed carry reciprocity bill. And I like it. I like concealer. I'm just, I haven't read the full language of it yet. I've been reading it, but I haven't read the, the NSSF likes it, but he also was the guy that ensured that the 2022 bipartisan communities, whatever safer act that also created the gun control violence, whatever office helped pass that. So I, I, Will the real John Cornyn please stand up? I am curious to hear about this bill, though, because one of the things that Trump has he did call for was he wanted reciprocity. And I was not expecting him to say that at all. Actually, I had right before he said it, I was complaining because I'm like, Republicans didn't even have two way issues on their agenda at the at the RNC. And, you know, I was like doing me stuff because there was not enough gun stuff. So I was complaining. And then he and then he said, yeah, it's like he heard me. complaining i was like i gotta shut her up so yeah reciprocity i want national reciprocity then look that's how you just make me happy right there's there's ways that you can make ladies happy and just telling them what they want to hear and then doing it that's the thing that does it just gotta say all right so uh we've also been talking about the tiktok stuff as well and i am oh man i'm like i i see both sides of it It would be great if people of their own accord made the determination that, you know, I don't think I want a CCP app. And it collects more data than you know. I was reading an insane deep dive online. Admittedly there was a lot of it. I didn't understand and I'm waiting to hear back from some of my tech friends I'm like, okay talk to me explain this to me like I'm for because it talked about the way that they the way that they collect your data where they send it to and how it's used and it is really it was reading this piece. It's really in the weeds and It collects so much more than you know, I And it uses it in more ways than you know. And that kind of stuff freaks me out. But it would be great if people thought, you know, yeah, and it even takes your bio data, all, everything. And I would love it for people to go, you know what? I don't want that. I want to make sure that the United States is not giving. I don't want any opportunity for a geopolitical adversary to gain a toehold or to be able to exploit Americans, etc. And it would be great if people voluntarily chose to make that determination, right? I mean, that would be great. But they don't. Freedom is a double-edged sword. So I'm The question then for me goes along these lines. I don't think that people refusing to make smart decisions is justification enough to give government control over the choices from which they make the decisions. Does that make sense? I don't think that stupidity, and this is why education is so important to a free republic. Because when you don't have an educated populace, and I'm not saying generally educated, it could even be on a specific issue like this, right? I mean, there are some really smart people out there in business and construction and finance and tech and with money and trade skills. There are a lot of people that... are incredibly smart on a number of different things. You may just not know everything on this issue. So when I say, you know, a lack of knowledge on it, I'm not calling people stupid, but you can't be an expert on everything. And when something like this comes up, it just feels like there should be more exploration of the pros and cons of it. I don't feel like we had like a, everything has been red meat platitudes and soundbites. But where has the discussion been on, okay, how do you protect national security issues? How do you protect the national security interests of the United States? And balance that out with a free society. Because our founders erred on the side of caution. They wrote about it. They were adamant about it. They erred on the side of caution. They erred towards freedom. Not away from it. So how do you balance that out, the national security issues? And a lot of these lawmakers, they say things like that. Well, it's a NatSec issue. Okay, how? And they can't explain to you how. A lot of them don't even know enough about how TikTok operates to explain to you how. I don't care what the issue is on. I have a problem with lawmakers adjudicating these things. when they don't know anything about it, for the same reason that I have a problem with people who don't know anything about guns, writing and passing laws about your gun rights. So that's where I have a concern. And again, I don't think that people who decline the opportunity to make good decisions is an invitation for the government to come in and make it for them. Now, How many people have read like SCOTUS blog about the arguments in this case? Because it extends beyond elected officials to the citizenry, to the voters, to how many people have read. I haven't even read at all. So I know a lot of people out there who have different jobs for me haven't even read it. The arguments for and against by either side. SCOTUSblog covers all of the arguments and has the decisions and you'll get the justices' opinions and all that. There's a lot here. And we are in a very... We're in a really weird period. We are on the edge of everything shifting. Everything shifting. It's like the saying... When I was little, I always wanted to be an explorer, right? But my uncle once told me, well, everything's been explored. I'm like, oh, shucks. You know, there goes that. But I wanted to be an explorer. And then when everything's explored, what do you do? I don't know. It's kind of like this. It kind of reminds me of that argument. This whole thing with TikTok. And we're in a very weird period where we're shifting to... like a new era digitally, even the way financial transactions, behavior, consumption, it's affecting how we do life. It's a hobby. It's a job. It's a million things for a million different people. And we are, there are some people who are a lot older. And so this hits really late for them. There are some people who are a lot younger and they have a long way to go with us. We're at that time where it hasn't changed yet. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So the moon has been added to a list of threatened cultural sites for the first time. They said that the World Monuments Fund says potential looting and commercial trips pose risk to artifacts left by lunar landings. The World Monument Fund, that's our stuff that's up there, by the way. It's not your stuff. You don't get to do that. If we want to leave our stuff up there on the moon, we can. If we want to go back up there and stomp on it, we can't. Who the hell is the World Monuments Fund? I've never heard of them. Yeah, who's just going to the moon? I think I'm going to go to the moon this weekend. Sorry, can't meet with you for brunch. SpaceX launched two lunar landers on Wednesday to conduct research for future missions. And then, of course, the world monument, whatever fun comes out with us. I don't know. They have like all this. They world heritage sites, things like that. I don't know. But interesting. This Pope Francis, the 88 year old. Bishop of Rome, injured in a fall weeks after bruising his chin in another stumble. He needs to be careful. There's a lot of marble up there. Slipping, sliding, and all that marble. I'm not a fan of him, but I don't care about old people falling down. It's sad. Unless I really don't like the old person, and then I just don't say anything, and I just internalize it. And you never know. I'm not like Cain, though. Cain hates old people. He doesn't like old people. He thinks they're shifty. Let's see. The FDA is moving to slash nicotine in cigarettes. How do you do that? How does that work?
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Probably a chemical process that's even worse for you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I don't care. I'm not a smoker. I don't care. I don't know. My grandpa always rolled his own. For a long time, he rolled his own. Anyway, we got a lot more to come. Congressman Jim Jordan joins us next. Stick with us. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver to help protect our savings. And I partnered with the top rated precious metals company Goldco to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com.
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You've known me a long time. I really am concerned about... How fragile democracy is. That sounds corny, but I mean, I really am concerned because you've heard me say it a hundred times. I really think we're at an inflection point in history here.
SPEAKER 21 :
Actually, I've not heard him say that a hundred times. And if he was so concerned about it, then why did he administer the business of the nation in the way that which he did? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. We are at the bottom of the second hour. You can listen coast to coast terrestrially. Watch the live stream, Channel 347, DirecTV. The chat's at Rumble, also on X. Joining us now, I got a million things to talk about with him. I know he was under the weather previously. So we're so happy that Congressman Jim Jordan from the beautiful state of Ohio is back to us. We need him at his full strength. He's got to be completely charged up to his full strength.
SPEAKER 24 :
You're always completely charged up and at full strength, ready to go, aren't you? Happy New Year to you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Happy New Year to you because you got to hit the ground running. I mean, the next six months are going to be insane because then the midterm period starts. Talk to me a little bit about I have a million things to hit, but I want to ask real quick about the reconciliation bill because tax cuts. Americans need tax relief. They also need relief from spending. What's going to happen with us?
SPEAKER 24 :
all that, and we need the border secure. So we need to have the revenue, the funds there so that Tom Holman, President Trump can do what they promised the American people, what the American people elected us to do, which is secure that border, begin to repatriate people, the criminals who are here, who came in as migrants and committed crimes, the 1.3 million who've already been in front of a court. And the court says, sorry, your case, you don't qualify under our asylum laws. So we need resources for that. We need to accomplish that. But as you point out, to get our economy moving, you need to reduce spending. You need to cut taxes so we get the economy like we had just four or five years ago in President Trump's first term. So all those are part of this reconciliation. And I always tell people, reconciliation, just a big fancy term for you don't need 60 votes in the Senate. To get something passed. And that's that's the beauty of it, because we can do it then with Republican votes.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. Is there a chance that it could be it could split into two bills? I've seen a lot of discussion.
SPEAKER 24 :
I mean, what I'm like, I'm indifferent. One or two. What I want to do is do what we told the American people we were going to do. I always say we make this job way too complicated. Yeah. It's pretty darn simple. What'd you tell the voters you were gonna do when you ran for the job, when you put your name on the ballot? If they elect you, go do what you said. So we can get that done in one bill or two bills. And I think I see advantages and disadvantages to both. So we'll just have to kind of see how that plays out. But the key is let's do it as soon as possible Because that'll help our economy get growing like it needs to. Let's get this border as secure as possible. Keep bad people out of the country like people who've done terrible things like what happened to Lake and Riley. So that's why it's imperative we do it just as quickly as we possibly can.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, we're talking with Congressman Jim Jordan. If you're listening, if you're watching, obviously you can see him. And we got that got the reconciliation bill, the fight over this, because there's going to be the there's a lot of stuff wrapped up into that. The money for deportations, the energy policy. And that's why a lot of people were saying this maybe should be two instead of one. But I'm with you. I mean, if if we can get, you know, half of what we want passed, I think that that's going to be that's going to that'll be successful as long. I don't want to give the Democrats a lot, but the tax cuts. Oh, my gosh. You know, if you wanted to throw in there, Congressman, an abolishment of the IRS, totally. I mean, I'm just saying that would I would personally throw you a party. I would get you a Pizza Hut party like the Book It program. All you can eat Pizza Hut party. I'll throw that in to sweep the deal.
SPEAKER 24 :
That's the other thing. Part of this election was all this stuff we've been talking about, good energy policy, good border policy, secure our border again, tax policy. But it was also stopping these agencies from being weaponized against we the people. It was making... And that's why I so appreciate the people President Trump's nominated for these respective cabinet positions, because they represent the attitude the American people voted for. They're there to serve the taxpayer, not be turned against and weaponized against the taxpayer. So I think that's really important. And you mentioned the IRS. What was the old line? I think it was Speaker Gingrich who said, if someone from the IRS, you go to your door, there's a knock at your door, you go to your door and they say, oh, I'm from the IRS. Your first response is not, oh joy, one of my public servants is here to help today. So, I mean, it's like, there's an attitude that, What was the other great line? Another, what Churchill said, civil servants aren't servants and they aren't civil. So yeah, we want the people running these agencies who have the attitude that says we're here to serve the taxpayers of this great country.
SPEAKER 21 :
There you go. I wanted to ask you really quickly because I will get into the Lake and Riley Act, the bill that was passed for that, which was great that that passed through the House. The TikTok decision that came from Supreme Court today. This is such a nuanced debate because nobody likes the CCP. Nobody wants to have their data mined. And I actually and I'm in a weird spot because I agree with both sides. So I don't know which one I agree with more. I just I feel like I don't want to give that because we saw what happened with the government under Joe Biden to all these weaponized agencies. I can't imagine giving Democrats the keys to shut down different companies that they don't like because they'll they'll they'll fabricate a national security claim like they fabricated, you know, the Russian, you know, corruption and all that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
So I'm nervous about that. But I also understand at the same time, this is a geopolitical adversary. And the stuff that they're collecting goes far beyond what anybody can actually imagine. How do we handle this and balance that out?
SPEAKER 24 :
I think you've summarized it exactly where I'm at. I actually walked to the floor the day of that vote, and I still, when I got to the floor, I wasn't sure which way to go, because like you, I see both sides of this. I think President Trump's going to take the exact right approach and say, look, let's Let's figure this out. Let's see if we can find someone else who will purchase this company so it's American-owned. And let's go from there. And we now have, you know, there's a timeframe where that can still begin to play out. So I think that's the right approach. I think President Trump understands that. We understand that, you know, I think Scott Bessett, when he was in his confirmation hearing, He was asking a slightly different issue, but it was being questioned about energy and China. And I think the Democrat senator said, well, we're in a clean energy race with China. And Mr. Besson said, no, we're in an energy race with China. I thought that was so well, we're in all kinds of conflicts and races with China. And we want to make sure they're not spying on us like everyone is convinced they're doing with this particular app. So there's a right way to do this moving forward. I think President Trump's going to take that right approach. And I, like you, I see both sides of it. But let's just get someone else to... purchase this company and let it continue to operate, but operate as American owned.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. And that's what people don't. I think a lot is missed in the discussion. It's like all they had to do was to invest from ByteDance because ByteDance, I mean, in order to run a business out of China, you got to be a member in good standing of the Communist Party there. It's a requirement. But they and they wouldn't they wouldn't invest. They wouldn't do it, which that's a red flag to me. I'm like, that means you're doing some shady stuff. And you want to keep doing it. That's that's what it is. I want to switch gears here because you were instrumental that preventing violence against women by illegal aliens act passes the House. You know, I know a lot of Democrats, they tried to say, oh, this is just targeting. And they would use the phrase migrants conflating once again, legal and illegal immigration. I mean, it seems like such a common sense thing. And I know you all had to fight tooth and nail just to get something so common sense passed. Just give me your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 24 :
If you've done bad things, you shouldn't get into the country. Particularly if you've done bad things to women, you shouldn't get into the country. And if you're in the country as a migrant and you do those bad things, you got to go. That's how simple this bill was. God bless Nancy Mace. She brought this bill forward. It came through our committee. It's good legislation. But 101, 140 some Democrats voted against it. which is just like makes no, again, Sarah Huckabee Sanders said this a couple years ago. She said, the divide in America today is normal versus crazy. And we're on this side of common sense and normal. The left, which now unfortunately controls the Democrat Party, They're on the side of crazy. It's crazy to think men should compete against women in sports. We had that vote earlier this week. It's crazy to think if you do bad things, you should still be allowed to come in the country. That's crazy. You could just go down the list. It is just crazy policies that the left has. It's crazy to defund the police. It's crazy.
SPEAKER 21 :
It was the normie election. It was the election of either choosing insanity or normalcy. That was it. Yes.
SPEAKER 24 :
So this bill is just normal, common sense policy. And, you know, let's hope it has like Lake and Riley, the bill we passed last week. Let's hope it gets to the Senate and the Senate takes it up and it becomes law. And President Trump can sign this in his first week of office as well.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. Congressman, we had the deal also that was announced, the hostages held by Hamas. And what do you make of this deal? Because I'm hearing either people either love it or they're concerned about the number of Gaza terrorists being released.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, and look, the Israelis have this long history. They're going to do whatever they can to get back their people. And I love the attitude they have about protecting their citizens, their people. Yeah, and some of ours, exactly. So God bless them. But I think the real takeaway is this doesn't happen without President Trump's leadership. I mean, Joe Biden, I mean, it just like... you know this this thing is going to end in a few days and thank thank the good lord for that because i can't think of one one thing that the biden administration did well and in this particular issue relative to israel and and our dearest and closest friend being attacked by hamas and hezbollah i remember in joe biden's day of the union addressed several months back when he said we're going to put a temporary pier a temporary port in gaza to give supplies and i'm sitting beside a colleague who's a west point grad and i looked at him and i said hey Isn't it kind of warfare 101? If you want one side to win, you don't give supplies to the other side. And of course, this pure felon, the Mediterranean, and it wound up costing us like 600 million and they had to get rid of it. That's how ridiculous and stupid the Biden administration is and has been. God bless President Trump for stepping in here and making a difference and getting these hostages, Americans and Israeli hostages, released.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, we're going to see how this all winds down. And, you know, you mentioned, too, the inauguration. It's going to be real cold there. 19 degrees, Congressman, 19 degrees. I know they're going to be doing, I think, the swearing in on the inside. And I keep hearing, I read it a million different places this morning, that the last time this happened was when Reagan, Reagan had to go inside to swear his oath. So, I mean, it's frigid temperatures, but I don't think anybody cares about the cold. I don't think they care. I think they'll accept it as a tradeoff.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, we just want President Trump back in the White House. What's morning in America again is maybe the way to say it. I mean, you can feel the optimism since November 5th. I'll be walking through the airport and I'll see someone coming and they'll have this little twinkle in their eye and smile on their face. They'll give me a thumbs up. I mean, you just see it, feel it, sense it. People are excited. There's this optimism that's back, which is the way Americans are. We're optimistic people. We're Americans. And you just feel that sense there again with President Trump coming back in. And it is a good feeling. And I think they're going to be good results as we work to make America great again.
SPEAKER 21 :
And it's going to be a very interesting collection of folks on that day. As you know, one last quick note, because the the change and I don't care if they're motivated by dollars or what, but to have Jeff Bezos back. Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Elon Musk, all up there. Considering where we were with these entities four years ago, what a change.
SPEAKER 24 :
Four years ago, they all every single one of them to kick President Trump off their platform. And now they're all there giving money to the inauguration committee. They're all there. They're embracing. Mark Zuckerberg sent me a letter last summer and he said, Biden administration pressured us to censor. We did it. We're sorry. We won't do it again. And then they just changed their policy to say, we're getting rid of the independent fact checker baloney. And we're going to go to, imagine this data. We're going to go to the first amendment. We're going to let more speech combat bad speech, which is exactly what the first amendment is about. God bless these guys. But for Elon Musk coming forward and Donald Trump getting elected, we may not have saved the First Amendment like we have over the last few years. Save the republic. But it's been saved and that is a good thing.
SPEAKER 21 :
There you go. Congressman Jim Jordan, we so appreciate your fight on behalf of, I know, not just Ohioans, but everybody in D.C. Thank you. Stay healthy. Stay warm. We'll be praying for a nice, easy inauguration. Good to see you.
SPEAKER 24 :
You bet. Take care.
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I love how there's just randomly a cow. In Florida Man. I mean, there's something about that. I love how there's just randomly this. All right. So our favorite Florida Man. So first up this. OK, I got to get to this and I have this on my list, but I have to. Florida Man was arrested for installing a tracking device on his ex-girlfriend's car in the hopes that he could just pretend to randomly run into her somewhere. That's really, that's creepy. He's a 22 year old Chipotle worker from Florida, Tyler Strack. He used a tracking device to keep her to keep to keep tags on an ex girlfriend that he had dated years ago. And he was hoping to just run into her. So he got charged with a felony. She discovered a cube tracker affixed to her vehicle last August and went to the police. And they tracked it and his email address came up and She told him that they had a brief relationship years ago and they haven't really had any contact. And they he he installed this somehow. He he placed it on her car because he was hoping to. Oh, just, you know, it's serendipity. I just happen to come across you here. How crazy is that? So now he's and he was arrested. And so now he's got to go to court. But that's wild. That is really weird because you can stick that stuff on people's cars. This Florida man suspected of a DUI when he was asked for his information. He gave cops his debit card. Instead of his license, Marion County, William Asbury, 52, he's passed out in his vehicle, slumped face down in the driver's seat. And when they asked to see his license upon approach, he handed them a debit card. So he was arrested, taken to Marion County Jail. He gave a breath sample of .91. Yeah, he did.
SPEAKER 1 :
.91.
SPEAKER 21 :
Wait a minute. What? I don't know. Is that, how are you alive?
SPEAKER 15 :
Because 0.91 is almost one, which means a whole, which means almost all your blood's alcohol. That can't, am I doing that right?
SPEAKER 21 :
That's what it said. That's what it says. Are we figuring this out right? I don't know.
SPEAKER 15 :
That doesn't sound like he should be alive.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I yeah, I don't know. I'm a million questions, million questions. All right. So there was also a Florida man caught smuggling marijuana wrapped in Christmas paper at St. Thomas Airport. I guess he was trying to say that it was a gift. I don't know. But he told law enforcement that he was smuggling pot as a way to dispose of a shop's old inventory. He's just helping him out. Yeah, three suitcases that came off a Spirit Airlines flight. And they had anomalies and they were all wrapped in Christmas paper. And I guess that and then they found out, oh, look, it's all marijuana. So he was arrested, charged with intent to distribute. Let's see this. Oh, a Florida man was arrested because he tried to steal not one, but two lawnmowers. And then he fled and lied about his identity. Flaker County. Willie, I mean, W-I-L-E-E. They really wanted to make sure it was said right. Willie Parker. The man's 42, but he don't look 42. That dude looks 60. That man is not 42 years old. That's a lie. Holy wow. But anyway, he was trying to steal lawnmowers from Home Depot, ran from the police, and when they finally caught up with him, he lied about who he was. Third hour coming up. Senator John Cornyn at the bottom of our next hour. Stick with us. Imagine a young woman facing an unplanned pregnancy, feeling alone and unsure of what to do, and she's searching for hope. And that's where Preborn Ministries comes in. You can make a difference for just $28. Your generosity can be the key to a mother choosing life for her baby. And with your gift, you will receive the story of a mom who chose life as well as the ultrasound image of her precious baby. And like the story of Kelsey who found Preborn and after hearing her baby's heartbeat, she chose life. Consider making a larger, life-changing donation of $5,000, $10,000, or $15,000. Maximize your gift that can help women in unplanned pregnancies receive ultrasounds and even help place an ultrasound machine in a women's center. Donate for the gift of life. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound or hashtag 250 baby. Or visit preborn.com slash Dana to donate online. Every contribution counts. So again, that's pound 250, say the word baby, or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana.
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More than 40 years after I first entered this building, it is now time to say goodbye. It will be hard to leave these hallowed halls. It will be hard to leave the leadership team that has guided the department with such extraordinary skill, integrity, and 24-7 dedication.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, please. Merrick Garland, one of the just the pettiest, most bitter little weasels that has ever existed. I don't miss him. I don't have anything nice to say. That's his farewell address, the last address he's going to make. And good riddance. Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you, top of this third hour. And a lot to jump into. We're going to be talking with John Cornyn later on in the program, because he's introducing a national concealed carry reciprocity bill. We'll talk to him about that. And we've been discussing this TikTok thing. decision and of course cnn was found guilty of defamation and their defamation trial isn't anyone shocked about that i don't think so i don't think so lorraine brought up a good point and i wanted to highlight really quickly one of the closest things that i think this compares to with the issue with tiktok because during the discussion with jim jordan he was saying you know bite dance owns tiktok and again if you're not on tiktok it doesn't matter this will affect you This is a variable. You always have to look at these legislative moves and court decisions as the formula. And then you can plug different things in as the variable. Right. So ByteDance is the CCP company that owns TikTok. And they were told that if TikTok wants to operate in the United States, it needs to be American owned. Right. It can't be. It needs to be American owned. And Lorraine brought up a good point, too, like what stops China from creating an American company and then selling their American assets to that company. And, you know, like you have somebody who comes into the United States and is here for a couple of years, then starts a company and buys the app. So they're American owned. She says China plays. And it's true. This is very similar to what happened in Prado in Italy. Now, bear with me. Let me take you back for a minute, because. It's very similar. How many times have you seen the label Made in Italy? And that's like a big selling point, especially if it's like Florentine gold, if it's leather, certain textiles. The luxury market, Italian-made, made in Italy, leather jackets and belts and wallets and women's handbags and shoes. It's a huge issue. In Florence, it's the Mercato. They have a whole market you can go to. And it has all of these textiles, all the leatherwares. You can go to Ponte Vecchio, the bridge, and it has all the gold and all of this stuff, all the jewelry. And that area... has historically for generations, hundreds of years, been a textiles area. And there is a huge, huge immigration corridor from China to Prado, which is in Tuscany. It's just a little bit northwest of Florence. And that's where so many, like Gucci is made in Florence. It's made in Italy. Bottega Veneta, things like that. Some fashion houses, though, don't do that. And I'm going to get to that. So you have this whole area in Tuscany where you would have generations-owned Italian factories, Italian craftsmen. They're very, very proud. You might have six, seven generations of the same family who do leather work. And the reason why it is so prized is and it has a premium tag is because these people have spent generationally their entire lives perfecting these techniques, which is why it is the tan leather, the treatment of it, the manufacturer, all of it is widely respected as the best. So you have a lot of fashion houses that have their stuff made in that area because they wanted that Italian expertise to justify the price tag. But then you started having a lot of immigration that came into Prado and came into Tuscany. This has started like over 10 years ago. And these factories, especially after Italy went through a very tough economic period, a lot of these factories were forced into sale. And you would have Chinese business folks, a lot of them came from the Wuhan area, that purchased these factories and they would bring in illegal labor. And they were displacing a lot of these tradesmen that have the skills because these people that these new business owners were bringing in. And it's a well-documented story. It actually became a scandal. they were bringing in these illegal workers who were in the country illegally, and they were basically operating these factories that were hubs of generational craftsmanship and turning them into sweatshops. And there were a lot of fashion labels that thought they could save money. For instance, Fendi, some others. The quality of a lot of the stuff is just garbage and it's noticeable and it's much discussed online. And people were wondering what happened. Well, they were trying to save themselves some money and they were having their products made knowing that they were getting cheap labor and under-trained labor doing all of it. And it became a huge scandal that even Vogue had to write about. And It was then that they decided, I guess the CCP decided we have to push back on this. So they accused Italians of racism. Because Italians were protesting at all the illegal immigrants that were being brought in to run these sweatshops. Basically, it was a huge, huge thing. And they were shamed by a CCP operation into silence because they were being called racist and bigots and xenophobes. Where does this sound familiar? And so they got quiet. And then COVID happened. Now, remember, this was right around when all these countries were having their fashion week. You had Milan Fashion Week, right? Big, big deal. A lot of the stuff that these people were making and they would go to the factories and look at it and then go back to, you know, whatever fashion capital to have there to show their next season. And you had a lot of these. I mean, you have direct direct flights that were coming in between the covid hotspot in China right to Tuscany. And that's one of the reasons why that area was hit so hard. Now, there was a it's the equivalent of the governor of that area that was saying one of the reasons it hit them so bad is because they were reluctant to speak up about what they were noticing in terms of health and viruses because they did not want to be shamed as being bigots again. That's a real story. And they were using the made in Italy. Oh, it's on its face. It looks like an Italian company. There's Chinese ran. Chinese workers, Chinese ran. That's very similar to the point that Lorraine had made. And that what's to stop them from just doing basically the same thing here. It's kind of a shell game, right? And it's it's it's a fast. That's it's a fascinating. It's like a it's a fascinating story. I mean, they there was a whole thing. Let me pull this up as it relates to the New Yorker had a whole story. about how the Made in Italy brand, quote, was diluted by replacing Pareto's historically high quality fabric production with fast fashion. The CCP was defending it by saying Chinese workers have simply surpassed Italians in their skill. And they're like, no, they're not. The skill has actually suffered. The quality, that's undeniable, has suffered. The New Yorker, which I'm not a fan of, but they actually did a really huge piece on this, as well as the New York Times and Vogue even had to write about it. I mean, even Prada was caught doing this stuff. Right. So this is the CCP's influence. And they've already done this in Italy because Italy has gotten really they've locked down. Like you can't say made in Italy unless you're using like they've got some restrictions that they passed on this to combat this. And now I feel like this is very similar with what opens the door here. How do you prevent them from just setting up an American company here? This is the problem with the broad nature, the broad way that this legislation is written. And this is what I and many others are really nervous about because what stops them from doing just that? Creating an American company. How do you even, how would you even, you would have to have more laws. And this, like I said, and this is very broadly written. So it already grants them a lot of leeway. I don't know. Kane, I don't know how you prevent that unless you have like a whole other series of regulation with it. Right. And I'm like, if you'll forget, I'm just like going through, you know, in my mind, all of the other things that you would have to do. I'm not even scratching the surface in order in order to make that happen in order to facilitate that. And I mean, and that's just with tech. In Italy, it was with like tangible like, you know, product. This is just with tech. So I think it's even more convoluted. It's wild. And I don't, from what I have read so far, in the legislation or the regulation on it, it's not addressed. Unless I haven't gotten to it yet, because I haven't finished reading through everything. Unless it's just addressed at the end. I have not seen it. So I just, I got questions. I got a lot of questions on this. And I also think that this is a geopolitical adversary. We don't have to give them the same considerations that we would give an American entity. Just because you're doing business in the United States and you're a foreign entity, I believe that that does not entitle you to the protections that are reserved for citizens. Now, there are some capital L's who say, no, no, no. This Constitution was an affirmation of free rights for all. I disagree with that. I think it's about the citizens here in the United States. Be a citizen. or have that standing as a status to be able to take advantage of that. If you're here, you're living here, you're paying taxes, you immigrated legally, you're doing all that, then yes, that applies. But a CCP foreign entity, they're trying to use our consistency on freedom as leverage. You have to outsmart them. That's what this is. And I... I... I'm nervous also because how close did we come? Think about this. In the last four years, with the Ministry of Disinformation, they were already, the government was, they were pressuring so heavily these companies behind the scenes. Imagine the power to be able to claim a national security consideration and take over a company in the hands of Democrats. Do you not think they would not do that with X? If Mark Zuckerberg keeps going down this path, do you not think that they would do it with Facebook? I mean, look at what they've already done. Oh, absolutely they would. That's where I get really nervous. If you're going to propose something like this, my gosh, it has to be ironclad. And it has to be. I just get very nervous with this. Kane, I can totally see the left, if this is overly broad and allowed to remain so, And nothing is done. Say that you get, just bear with me, a Gavin Newsom president. Do people think that they wouldn't use this to take over something like X? Of course they would.
SPEAKER 15 :
We've already seen it, what they did with the ones that exist.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
With Instagram and Facebook. We already know that that's what they do. So of course, that's exactly what they would do.
SPEAKER 21 :
I get nervous. I'm just saying. I feel like they're baiting us into this. Because think about it. They're like, OK, they can go, OK, sure. Well, we'll just switch over the for all intents and purposes. Well, it'll be an American company. Oh, and now you have the opportunity to take over companies. The CCP and the left are very intertwined. I mean, for crying out loud.
SPEAKER 15 :
It reminds me of what they tried to sell us on the Section 203 stuff. You know what they were intending to do based on. I think we're getting baited versus what they're saying they're going to do.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 21 :
Smartwatch bands can contain major levels of toxic PFAS, PFASs, according to The Guardian. So, these are the forever chemicals. I'm trying to actually get away from all things plastic, but they said that smartwatch and fitness tracker bands... Well, what if they're silicone? Really?
SPEAKER 15 :
PFASs.
SPEAKER 21 :
Is PFASs... Are PFASs in...
SPEAKER 15 :
and everything.
SPEAKER 21 :
In the silicone bands?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I wear metal now, but I don't know. They said, or like rubber, they said that the natural rubber won't likely contain PFASs, but the chemicals are likely in the synthetic to prevent sweat stains and dirt buildup over time. Rain, hiking gear, waterproofing agents. I mean, is it that big of a deal? I mean, we're all going to die from something. Is it that big of a deal? I don't know. I don't know what to think about it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't want to die from that, though.
SPEAKER 21 :
Let's just all wear armor and everything metal. Oh, guess what? Then we'll get metal poisoning or something will happen. Just wait. Let's see. Modern solutions sometimes require medieval. Modern problems require medieval solutions. Bloodletting has been recommended for New Jersey residents after PFAS contamination. Their private drinking water, it was polluted by the use of firefighting foams that contain forever chemicals. And now they've been literally recommending bloodletting to reduce high concentration of forever chemicals. Like, isn't that what the leeches can do?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm going to bleed you. I'm going to put these wee little slimy bugs on your arms and legs. They're going to eat all your blood and get the professors out. That's what's going to happen. They, uh... Here, let me try to read this sentence. Quote, private drinking water supplies in New Jersey were polluted by the use of firefighting foams contained PFASs, per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sounds good.
SPEAKER 21 :
Polyfluoroalkyl. That's the correct pronunciation.
SPEAKER 15 :
What if you get stuck in your lymph nodes and you're just letting out blood that's good?
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, that's a great point. Escape cow. It drops by Kansas State University campus. An escaped cow. It was tagged. It was just minding its own business. It was wandering through. It was there. They were able to get it and take it back, but they got it under a trailer. Stick with us. John Cornyn is next. Look, if you haven't switched to Patriot Mobile because you love paying a lot more money for your subpar cell phone service, I mean, that's your preference. If you haven't switched to Patriot Mobile because you love paying supporting dei every time you pay your cell phone bill i mean that's also a personal preference i mean i don't know why you would but it's like the easiest thing to do is to switch the people from patriot mobile practically come to your home or office and do it for you i mean they don't but i imagine that they would uh right now you can get a free month of service with promo code dana you're getting the best coverage uh coverage you can trust they operate on all three major networks you stay connected wherever you go seamless switching with their 100% U.S.-based customer service team. Keep your number, keep your phone, upgrade. I mean, it's whatever you want to do. It's never been simpler to switch. So visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana. Make your money, support your values, and not work against you. Or call 972-PATRIOT. Get that free month of service with promo code Dana. Switch to Patriot Mobile today. That's patriotmobile.com slash Dana, 972-PATRIOT.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Seventh, I will protect the right of self-defense everywhere it is under siege. And I will sign concealed carry reciprocity. Your Second Amendment does not end at the state line.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, that concealed carry reciprocity has to get there. And he said this the day after he won. And I immediately picked up on it. I thought, oh, Because, look, I've had disagreements with some of the stuff that he's done in the past. And you have, too. I think I've been one of the most vociferous about it. That said, I've never heard a president say that or demand or and then say that I'll sign this national concealed carry reciprocity. So that was that was really significant. Now, that's the thing. It's got to get there. It has to get to him. Well, now there's been a bill introduced to do just that. And honestly, I think if they're going to do it, they got to do it now before that six months end and the midterm running to the center starts for so many lawmakers. So this new legislation, it's Senators John Cornyn, Cruz, Grassley, Tillis have introduced a concealed carry reciprocity bill. And this is, I mean, one of the things that they're going to apparently be focusing on right after everything transitions next week. Joining us to discuss this bill via the phone is Texas Senator John Cornyn. It's a pleasure to have you on. Tell us about this, because this I mean, as soon as he said that, I was wondering when this was going to get reintroduced. And there's a number of co-sponsors on to this. So that's, you know, good news. What are your thoughts about is this going to make it to his desk?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Dana, thanks for having me on. This is a bill that I've introduced numerous times before, but we've never had the trifecta of a majority in the House and the Senate and a president willing to sign it. So I agree with you that there's no time to waste. You know, there's just a lot of misunderstanding by people who've never been around guns, never been raised around guns, hunting and recreation. And this is like a driver's license. So if you have a Texas driver's license, you can drive in any one of 50 states. including Texas, and I think the law ought to be the same with regard to the Second Amendment. And right now we have reciprocity between various states, but it's easy for law-abiding gun owners to inadvertently cross a state line and find themselves in trouble in those states that don't have it. give print reciprocity. So this will eliminate that gotcha. And I think it's a great opportunity for us to get it done. And we intend to move without delay.
SPEAKER 21 :
Do you think it's easier, Senator, to start with something like concealed carry national reciprocity as opposed to just constitutional permitless carry nationally?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think, you know, different states, interestingly, like Vermont, as I understand it, have constitutional carry. Of course, Texas does as well. But I think it's probably easier to start this way. There will be some pushback because, as you know, different states have different requirements and educational program and so forth. And others just say, well, if you're a law-abiding gun owner, you can carry a gun. You don't need to take a course or go through any other process. So we're going to start out here. And if we're successful, then maybe we can expand it further in the future.
SPEAKER 21 :
We're talking to Texas Senator John Cornyn, who has reintroduced this concealed carry reciprocity bill. I used to it would be something like this could probably pass the House and maybe it'll get stuck in the Senate. But this looks like the time that it could go through both of those. I keep thinking, well, what is the catch? There's always a catch. Is there anything that's going to surprise a senator?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think, you know, Richard Hudson from North Carolina, I believe, is the principal sponsor in the House, and I'm pretty confident that the House can get it passed, even with the razor-thin majority that they have. And then we've got 53 Republicans now in the Senate. We don't have 60, so that means we'll need some help from seven Democrats, but... After the shellacking the Democrats got on November the 5th, I think perhaps they're open to more discussion about common sense legislation like this. And like you said at the outset, President Trump will sign it if we can get it to its desk. So that's going to be probably the challenge is getting to that 60, convincing seven Democrats to join us.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. And I think allowing the states, even if we agree with it or not, allowing the states maybe as a as a way to help convince them to retain, like especially like Illinois or New York, allowing them to retain a little bit of their egregious oversight in exchange, maybe for some to expand the reciprocity. That might be a good first step because I feel like they got to be eased into it because states like Illinois, I mean, they're so hostile to the Second Amendment. They're going to fight this.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've always said that, you know, the public doesn't have to fear law-abiding gun owners. And some Democrats feel that, you know, guns are inherently evil, notwithstanding the fact that the Second Amendment guarantees that right as part of the Bill of Rights. So there is definitely a cultural difference around the country, but I think there are as many as 35 different states already provide some form of reciprocity. But as I said earlier, it's too easy to inadvertently cross state lines and find yourself in legal trouble, and this will avoid that entirely.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, this is something that the National Shooting Sports Foundation, gun owners, I mean, every gun, a Second Amendment advocacy entity has supported this and said that it's, you know, it's time that this passes. And I know that you've, you know, you've had this on. on a back burner for some time waiting for the right time. There are some people, Senator, that are trying to reconcile your reintroduction of this national concealed carry reciprocity bill with that bipartisan Community Safer Act from 2022 that had a lot of gun control in it. And you got a lot of criticism for that. How do you reconcile these two pieces of legislation?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I would say that all the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act did was to say that we will look back at juvenile criminal and mental health records to determine whether if you were an adult that you would be disqualified from purchasing a firearm under existing law. As you know, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System checks that when you go buy a firearm, the vast majority, 90-plus percent of those go through in a matter of seconds. And we felt and I believe that looking back at juvenile records so that somebody doesn't necessarily show up on their 18th birthday as if they didn't have a criminal record or have a mental health commitment, which had they been an adult would have been, they would have been disqualified under existing law. So that's, again, I think very consistent with the position I've always held that law-abiding citizens shouldn't have an unimpaired access to their rights under the Second Amendment. But I would hope that we could have some agreement that people who are suffering from mental illness or somebody who have demonstrated lack of regard for the law and have a criminal record would be disqualified under existing law.
SPEAKER 21 :
And we're talking with Senator John Cornyn from the Great Republic of Texas about this National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. And you bring up this good point about the adjudication of people as being prohibited possessors, because I feel like not enough lawmakers talk about the existing pathways that we have in order to do that, that still protect due process. And especially with this, you know, the I almost forgot the name of it, the Office of Gun Violence Prevention that that Biden created that Harris was supposed to be running. This was something that they talked about quite a bit. But there I mean, there are ways to do that, to keep dangerous people that are not just dangerous just to themselves, but to everybody else, as you know, to prove to have them adjudicated, have their day in court, follow due process. And then the court makes that determination.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, due process is very important because we are talking about a constitutional right. And as you know, states like Texas don't have a red flag law. That's always been a big concern in my state and in a number of other states. And we made sure that no state would get access to any resources unless they had a law which protected due process for a gun owner.
SPEAKER 21 :
Unfortunately, none of them did.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, unfortunately, too many of them did not. You're right. But in states like Texas, where we don't have a red flag law, we were able to receive equal funding to implement programs like veterans courts, drug courts, and mental health courts, crisis intervention programs in those states like Texas that did not have a red flag law. So I think I'm frankly proud of the work we did here. I think we've probably saved lives. We've seen about 300 people prosecuted for straw purchases, which has been a problem where people who are legally disqualified from purchasing a firearm, let's say because of a a previous criminal record, have a girlfriend or some friend purchase a gun who did not have such a background. And now we've got more people scrutinized for these illegitimate straw purchases as well. I think the more we can find consensus on some of these areas, I think it's easier for people like me to say there's no reason to inhibit or to restrict the rights of law-abiding citizens.
SPEAKER 21 :
And some of it sounds like what Jeff Sessions did with Project Exile. Some of it sounds very similar to that, where he really wanted to crack down through the – because you mentioned straw purchases. And the Biden administration famously – Barack Obama, his administration, as you know, Senator, famously – Did not pursue or they would just they would just dismiss these these charges. But average everyday people or FFLs that have a grammatical error get the book thrown at them. A quick question on this. Then I want to move on before we let you go to a couple of other issues. The is there a chance that some of the like, for instance, the Office for Gun Violence Prevention? I know that was done by executive order. Is there a chance that Trump undoes that with executive order? Because a lot of this stuff. That was discussed two years ago with this bipartisan Safer Communities Act involved the funding of red flag. So even if there was opposition to the implementation of red flag law or opposition to it outright, isn't there still a mechanism within that that incentivizes or funds the red flag program? For different states?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, as I mentioned, all states would get access to these funds, whether they have a red flag law or not. My argument would be that it disincentivizes states from passing new red flag laws because if they want to get the funding, so they don't have to do it in order to get to get that funding. But I think, you know, things like Project Exile, as you point out, that started in Richmond, Virginia, in a U.S. attorney's office, has gone nationwide. We implemented Texas Exile when I was attorney general and making sure that people who were repeat criminals who were prohibited from purchasing firearms or possessing them and who were using them to commit crimes were protected. were disincentivized, so to speak, from using those. And it actually worked pretty well. But targeting criminals and people who have got mental health commitments, I think is, to me, sort of the right way to go.
SPEAKER 21 :
I want to switch gears here real quick, Senator, while we have you for the limited amount of time we got left. The hearings for the nominations, it seems like, do you think Hegseth is going to get confirmed? It seems like he's now starting to get the support that I don't think he had in the beginning.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think so. He really did well. I thought on Monday at the Armed Services Committee, Democrats didn't lay a glove on him. Pete, you know, he's an honest guy. He said, you know, I'm a flawed human being. But again, who isn't? And he's changed dramatically. He, I think, recognizes that the way he used to be, what George Bush called his young and irresponsible days, that that's got to change. And so I think he's got a lot to offer as a combat veteran in shaking up the Pentagon, which desperately needs to be shaken up. to make sure that our warfighters have what they need in order to deter the next war. To me, it's not about fighting wars. It's about not fighting wars. And the only way you do that is by providing deterrence. And you do that by being the biggest, most powerful country in the world as we are.
SPEAKER 21 :
Is there a nominee that you think may actually have a difficult time in getting confirmed? Is there one that sticks out to you that they're having trouble getting the support that they need amongst the Senate?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I'm glad to say that Kash Patel, the nominee for the FBI, I think is going to be relatively easily confirmed. I think the Department of Justice with Pam Bondi, Kash Patel at the FBI, those to me are some of the most important institutions that we need to restore to their previous nonpolitical status. The two that are most in the press, I guess you could say, are Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for Health and Human Services and Tulsi Gabbard for Director of National Intelligence. Those hearings have not yet taken place. Their FBI background check is not yet completed, and it may end up being early February before that happens. I'm not I'm supportive of the nominees absent. You know, some extraordinary circumstances are surprised. But unfortunately, the longer this hangs out here, that means that the longer it takes for President Trump to get his team so he can hit the ground running.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, you guys are definitely in a time crunch. You got six months until that midterm cycle starts. And as you know, everybody runs to the center for that. Texas Senator John Cornyn. Well, we're watching this. We're going to watch this reciprocity go through. And maybe you can stick something in there, Senator, before I let you go about defunding states that do implement red flag. Maybe you can. Is that possible? You just stick that in there real fast.
SPEAKER 06 :
Somebody might notice. We don't want to give people reason to vote against this. Let's save that for another day.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 21 :
I get that Biden and Harris are just like bippity boppity booing, you know, the ERA into the Constitution, but that's not how it works. This thing has been expired forever. It's dead. The equal rent, whatever. And a number of states have reversed their support of it. The Senate voted against it last year. So it's done. I don't know why we're talking about this. Today's stupidity.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, it's the bullet we dodged. Kamala Harris. Listen to what she has to say. I suspect she's been drinking.
SPEAKER 03 :
With grace and with purpose and with faith and with the knowledge that we are all in this together. It's extraordinary. You are drunk, woman. So I thank everyone.
SPEAKER 21 :
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Join Reggie Rocco and his diverse group of guests as they explore significant social and political issues that affect us all. From the hustle and bustling streets of Atlanta to the ever-evolving music scene, this episode provides a thought-provoking look at the complexities of identity, independence, and creativity. Engage in discussions about global affairs and hear firsthand accounts of striving for success amidst adversity. Whether you're here for the music or the meaningful dialogue, this episode promises insight and entertainment.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's up? What's up? What's up? You tuned in to 560 KLZ. KLZ. I'm a Uniter. I'm a Uniter. I'm your host, Reggie Rocco. Yeah. Yeah. KLZ. Yeah. Yeah. So right about now, we want everybody, I mean everybody, stand up. Stand up. Hold your hands up high. arms this is about america baby yeah we bringing people together i'm a united
SPEAKER 05 :
to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty.
SPEAKER 03 :
Woo! 560 KLZ. Of course, this is Reggie Rocco. And of course, my super producer, Lukey Luke.
SPEAKER 06 :
How you doing, man? I'm doing good. I'm more floored that you said, when you see that, we're live to people who are blind in the studio. Oh, my God. Reggie, they can't see when the light's on.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's starting off with jokes. So check this out, people. To all my listeners and followers, you know what we do and how we do it up here. We have fun, we tell the truth, and we are almost never wrong. Especially me, dog. I'm almost never, ever wrong. But there's a familiar voice up here that usually calls in, like, religiously, but they're in the studio. Who's that person?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's Johnny J. Better known as Johnny J. To my DJ friends.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you brought some people with you, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. I brought Tony Vegas.
SPEAKER 03 :
Forever Diesel.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then... Forever Diesel.
SPEAKER 03 :
Forever Diesel? So what is this, man? Is this like a music crew, a gang that they locked the doors?
SPEAKER 12 :
Because it ain't been that many black people up here in a long, long time. Let me say, let me say. So I've met Forever Diesel when I was in middle school. And ever since then, we've just been making music, being creative, and trying our best to display expression through music. And that's what brought me out here to Colorado, meeting Johnny J. And just, you know, going from there. What brought you out here to Colorado? So there's this Colorado Center for the Blind. And they, you know, I've lost my vision probably like two or three years ago. And I came into this blindness experience with having to transition and find ways to get support. And CCB was that for me. And came through and just kind of really explored my independence through them and gaining confidence to be able to sit here and talk to you guys as a man.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Not just a blind man. And you see, Luke started off with a joke. But listen, because we have fun in this show and be prepared for that. But I'm asking you, what happened to... you in reference to losing your vision. Why? What happened?
SPEAKER 12 :
I would just say a serious life, you know, health problem happened to where I ended up losing my vision. I will not say because it could happen to anybody. So I would just say, you know, just stay healthy and keep your body, you know, fit and eat healthy things so that you won't have to experience the dramatics of a life that
SPEAKER 03 :
issue or a health issue but blindness can affect anyone but yeah and it has affected me so i i tell johnny all the time like you know i look up to him like he's like a superhero to me because i'm just gonna be real if it was me i couldn't i couldn't do it you know i'm saying what you do what you're describing what you got to go through i'm just not that tough i don't have that and i'm very But I would say don't limit yourself, man. I'm limited. I'm telling you, I can't. You guys are superheroes. What not me is I couldn't do it.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, we're just regular people just like me and you, bro. You're sitting here. I'm feeling your energy. You're feeling mine. You can do anything, man, that you put your mind to. Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
How did you meet Mr. Diesel here?
SPEAKER 11 :
So I'm a traveler in CNA. I'm coming out from Iowa. And I was out here just coming out here to visit my homeboy, Tony. And we've just been chilling. I'm only here for a couple of weeks and stuff. It's my first time in Colorado. Very beautiful out here. Very diverse. and he said he had a friend that's inviting him to the radio station, so I'm just here with him. Wow. So CNA, what is that?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's in the nursing field, right? Certified nurse assistant. Wow. That's a tough job, too. You've got to be strong and have a heart. Man, these are some real men you brought up here, Johnny. Oh, yeah. I'm feeling a little intimidated, buddy. So, Johnny, with your situation... Politics, nonprofits, music, very bright. And I know your story. What's your next move concerning these guys and what you're doing?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, really, I'm just kind of like book Tony to as many events as I can. He's booked himself. I'm talking to some people like in London and stuff like that to say if we can get up to 250 fans that can pay $100, we'll book a venue and invite VIP $250, we'll fly Tony out there. I'm just kind of like... see whatever connections I get, either here, there, and just have fun with it. Because at one point, before I was married to my wife, I used to have musicians live with me, and I almost got kicked out of my apartment building because every Friday, 30 young people would come up to my apartment building, get ready, then they would all carpool to the place.
SPEAKER 12 :
Can't do that. Yeah. I can't do that.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I had fun with it. Were you visually impaired then? Oh, yeah. This was 2011 before I met my wife. Oh, my goodness, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know how you even pulled that off.
SPEAKER 10 :
She wouldn't have put up with that. But the girlfriend I was with at that time, you know. She listened to me and what I said went. That's just the way I rode. And it was fun. It was fun. But like I said, I can't do that now, but I can do other things now.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can tell you a couple of stories in Atlanta. On that pro level, I'm talking about big dog level, kind of the same similar thing that I did. And, yeah, man, it was crazy. You know, you had – we had – We had strippers coming to my home in the middle of the night. I bought this mansion, dude. When I say mansion, I don't want you to think of no super huge mansion. Just say a very big, very nice, expensive house. And that was a little dog in the neighborhood, you know? And I said, I'm going to put all this stuff in here. I had a swimming pool, jacuzzi, steam room, studio A, studio B, pool table, theater room, bar, jacuzzi. I mean, everything in there. Right. And so I had artists come into instead of going to like when they fly in, they would go to a hotel and then go from the hotel to the studio. It was a one stop shop. So they came, they were booking, and they came here. And so a lot of the stories that I have is from, you know, people, Universal. I'm a vendor for Universal Records. Like, they were sending artists and clients in there to artist development, to record hit after hit with, who had Fabo, Crime Mob. Nope, if you book, all of them, all of them. I know them all. I've worked with them all. So I'm just telling you, it was that situation that was set up. And all of a sudden, man, it just got ridiculous because the subdivision wasn't gated off. It was open. Atlanta does a lot of stuff. They like room and stuff. And people were just coming up, man, showing up. Boom, boom, boom. All the time. Everywhere. Girls, everybody. The hustle was big, man. I was like, oh, man, I can't.
SPEAKER 12 :
That part. Atlanta is all about the hustle.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, man. You don't know. What you really know about the dirt is out.
SPEAKER 12 :
Don't stop, man. I'm from Atlanta.
SPEAKER 03 :
What? What?
SPEAKER 13 :
What part? What part?
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm from Clayton County, Georgia.
SPEAKER 03 :
Clayton? You in Clayton? Them cops are a little different over there.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're definitely different. Wow. It's definitely a grind mode when you're in Atlanta. Completely. Completely. Anything under the sun can take place in Atlanta. And it's sometimes suffocating. But you kind of like know what Atlanta is for, you know, when you get there. It's a nice community of people in the sense of you're around your people. And it's just nice to see familiar faces and people that are of your experience, you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, what I learned being in Atlanta, yeah, you're around your people. You know, I went to an Applebee's. I've never seen security guards checking your ID to go into an Applebee's, and it was like a party off up in there. Get real. All black. I was like, oh, my God. So there's a lot of great things about that, but there are some serious other things that, yeah. Hey, I used to leave Atlanta because I had to get away. come back home to Denver and have to take a three-month break to get away from all the hustle and all the things going on in there.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that's okay because you've got to save some time for yourself to refocus. I'm the same way. I kind of have to take time to recharge from certain situations or places that I'm in because you can get too focused and drown out a lot of important things about life. Okay, so with that in mind,
SPEAKER 03 :
With what you guys have been through, what you're doing, I want to know how and what you view the state of the world the state of our country right now what do you know what you what don't you know uh what can you learn what can you teach tell me uh where your mind is in reference to um the the community the neighborhoods the states people getting along the the you know the presidents all this stuff just tell me what's on your mind
SPEAKER 12 :
Me personally, I think there's a lack of support for people of diverse backgrounds. I think that things are transitioning from, you know, like certain safety nets are being lost. And that's alarming as somebody who is blind, because a lot of the safety nets that are in my community, they're being threatened to be removed. So in a sense, a lot of people are feeling the pressure of having to adjust again through a process of, you know, just having to be patient with the process and understand that no one is trying to take away anything. you're, you know, you're right or anything like that. But it's, it's kind of scary right now. I think in my experience with everyone else and people that I talk to, they kind of are sharing the same sentiment. Like it's just nerve wracking. It's a sense of anxiety.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now you have to let me know because it's always mysterious. Someone is, is threatening. Who's bringing the news that they're being threatened and how liable is that news from that person? Has that person said this and then that happened for real? Or is that person just throwing something out? Consider the source. Yeah, consider the source.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. And I think that's another alarming thing is what do you know is true and what you don't know is true? Like, for example, like with technology, it's so many things that can be altered and everyone lives in their own bubble of understanding and knowing what is true and what isn't. So you take you take what you get from social media or you take what you get from whatever sources you go to and you spread that information as truth. It's the same thing for the other person. And now there's a confliction of what's true and what isn't. And people are, you know, based in their positioning, based off of their perspective and their experiences. So let's say I'm somebody that is blind and I've experienced nothing but, you know, obstacles in my way that make me feel like somebody is taking my resources away or they're not giving me resources that could support me. You know, there's so many other, you know, implications that could exist within that realm of understanding of someone's experience that would make them believe that if they were to see something on the news that said, hey, this person is going to take this away from you, they would identify with that. And now it's their truth. So everybody's just spewing their truth.
SPEAKER 03 :
OK, so we have a caller on the line. It looks like Donna. Go ahead, Luke. You look better. Donna, you there?
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, how are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm fine. I was wondering if this topic is going to be all right to put on the air. It's about Hamas and the Israelis having a peace fire.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, we talk about everything on this show. You know that. So what's on your mind? Go ahead. Go ahead. Spit it out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, if this is a ceasefire, it gives Hamas a chance to regroup. There are people from Iran and Qatar and Kuwait joining up and adding to the numbers for Hamas. I don't think it's a good idea. But on the other hand, we have Assad who has been sabotaging pagers that are bombs and that way they got rid of a great deal of so I don't think that the war is going to be so much guns and rockets I think it's going to be more like technical it's going to be technology now let me tell you let me comment on that okay I don't know
SPEAKER 03 :
This whole Israeli thing, Hamas, Iran, it goes way back before me. But I can tell you this. When Trump said those hostages better be released before I get in office or it's going to be hell to pay. Everybody knows he means it. So I just put my trust in God and in him. Already, the whole world's changing. Trump's got an amazing team to actually do something and make a difference and bring America back. Now, I don't know how you're going to solve that over there. It's above my pay schedule. We're going to go to commercial, and we'll be right back. You're listening to Plastic to KLZ. I'm your nighter. Nighter. Nighter.
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SPEAKER 03 :
You're listening to 560 KLZ. I'm the Uniter's Ricky Rocco. The studio's full and it's all black. People that look like me. What I said I was going to do is grow our party, bring people in that look like me to at least have a conversation of why they voted one way or the other. I learned one thing, a couple of things, but one very important thing about power, about the entertainment, business, sports, business, that Hollywood thing, no one can tell me. Now, Luke, you know I've been telling you guys for years, and every single thing I've said, I've been telling you about Puffy, I've been telling you about Jay-Z, I've been telling you about so many people in this industry, and it's all coming to light. You know, I'm talking years and years I've been teaching people that want to get into the industry, and they say, hey, how is it, how is it? And like I tell everybody, Trump... knows because he was a big star. Trump was not only a multi-billionaire, but he had television shows and everything. He was a big star, and he does things, and he knows about fake media because it's true. How many sets have I been on where, what is it, Atlanta? What's the show? Hip-hop, loving hip-hop, Atlanta. You know, you'll be watching it, and for TV, and you guys are saying, oh, man, this major fight scene breaks out. But, you know, it was really take 26 when they fight. Fight scene, take 22. It's all fake, man. The industry is fake. Understand that. It's programmed and edited for your visuals to believe. So, like I said, Trump has been on like 200 rap songs. You know, everybody loved Trump. All you got to do is just do your research. Don't pay attention to the mainstream media. Find out. Dig deeper. He was beloved. He's given money to so many people, so many black people, so many people do. And I'm telling you, Johnny, when you when you get when you find out the truth and you see this and you like you wonder like, OK, well, why does everybody now switch? You know, I lost a lot of money, relationships, family, but they have no idea because they didn't live on my level. They don't live on what they I'm not a sheep. I'm a sheep herder. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just telling you, learn what don't believe everything you hear, everything you see, you know, saying no pun intended. I'm just telling you, bottom line is that the reason why people. Pretend like they don't like Trump or Trump some crazy dude. That's not it. What it is is he got tired. He understood that America was sinking and not going to exist if he didn't step up and stop all the wrong that was going on. Now, you guys are in the music industry. Have you heard of Intellectual Properties? You have? You have?
SPEAKER 11 :
A little bit.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Intellectual properties is when you create something and you copyright it, trademark it, or whatever. That's your property. In our constitution, we abide by those laws. But I found out the hard way that the rest of the country don't give a crap. Out of the country. China, all these other countries, they don't care about America's laws. So we had a big artist that was with the label come down in the studio from Europe. We had some heavyweights in there. Tony Mercedes, Navigator, a bunch of people. Father MC, all these people in the studio. Myself and Kaz and Rob was in there. And so everybody said, yeah, so what project are you working on? We're working on this project right now with Tony Mercedes. And then all of a sudden, this guy from Europe we've never seen before, that's a major artist over there, we told him about a song. He said, hmm, I know that song. We're like, no way you possibly know that song because one, we just pressed it up and we're getting the promos, we haven't released anything, nothing. Then he starts singing the song. And we were like, oh my God, in shock, instantly getting on the phone to the lawyer. He said, man, your song you got is like number two on the dance charts. Well, how'd they get it? And we traced it down to China. paying all this stuff to get our stuff. That's why you have to have stuff made in America where people who abide by your rules and your intellectual properties that care, where you can do something about it. They don't care. That's why you see Nike, Gucci, Versace, everything's bootleg. And if they can't stop them, who am I? I'm nothing. Zero compared to that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Can I ask you a question? Go ahead. What is your biggest worry in America? What do you feel like the problem is in America?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a couple things. Number one is we got to seal that border. Number one. That is number one. Number two is we have to get all these people that's in this country out of this country that are here illegally. That's number one and one A. When you get that situation set up and that started to engage in the process, then the next thing is you have to bring... Awareness, you got to get people together to understand common sense, because the very next thing under that for me and it should be for everybody is get males out of female sports, get males out of the females bathrooms. You know, that thing right there to understand that there's only two genders, you know, not 532, you know, that whole thing. system and how that they they put that whole thing together is is insane it's insane and america's been more concentrating on that especially the last four years than the things that we need to like your job like your housing you know like your your properties your food all those things that you need to survive like you guys are going to get in the music industry and all of that you you want to have an avenue to do something but how do you how can you do it If none of the stuff is made here in America, we have no protection.
SPEAKER 12 :
So how do you feel about, you know, Elon Musk coming out in support of H-1B visas? Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Elon is a different animal. Oh, yeah. You know, I... I trust Trump. I like Elon. I trust Trump, and I think he's smart and brave. And whatever way they're going to take this country, I'm going to 100% support it. Because what I do know is that our people don't know enough about the Democratic Party. It's history, what it's founded on, and where it is now. But you can't tell me that now... Even if you are a Democrat, that you see the truth like I can't stand it when I see something that I know is a lie or something I know of manipulation or something that's suppressing and oppressing our people. I can't stand it. So do you feel, would you say that you're oppressed as a black American? In certain ways. I'm not African. Oh, okay. If you want to know the truth, African Americans don't even like black Americans. They look at us in a whole different thing, and we'll get into that on another day, but that's the truth. But oppression, I wouldn't say oppressed. I would say more suppressed on certain things. But no, no doubt about it, this is the greatest country on the planet. I haven't been to every country, but I know a lot of people. See, that's why I've got to give Atlanta and the music industry so much credit. credit for what I learned behind the scenes. You can't tell me nothing. I already know, and it's firsthand. So when you look at, my major problem is with our people, like you'll say, when they did the Black Lives Matter stuff, bull, Black Lives Matter was founded by lesbians. They don't believe in the nuclear family. This is facts. You have the mothers right now suing Black Lives Matter because they made all this money and didn't give the victims nothing. Do you know the name of the lesbian? Nah, just look it up. They used to have a website and they had to take down certain stuff and all that. It's all out there.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't remember their names either, but I just remember they were like, their philosophy was based on Marxism. And, I mean, they were just totally opposite. And then the one lesbian leader, she went and bought a really nice house in an expensive white area. If black lives matter so much, she could have went to a black area, developed it, and moved in there. But yet, you know, black lives didn't matter when it came to, you know, buying her house.
SPEAKER 03 :
Trust me. All you have to do is not pay attention to the hype and all the bull crap and dig deeper. You will see that you're being manipulated, period. And when it comes to America, like I'm a conservative and you better believe I believe in reparations. I don't I say it all the time. No, no. Keep the same energy. We were enslaved for 400 years. On your marks, get set, go. Now you got a 400-year head start. We're in chains. And we don't know the language. We're getting beat, killed, abused, murdered, all that kind of stuff. There has to be consequences for that. So I don't know how to be done, but it needs to be something. But in reference to your question directly, Now, let me counter your question. What do you think is the biggest thing stopping you as a black man in America?
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a myriad of things. I think it's what you spoke towards, you know, 400 years of oppression and not really any type of acknowledgement of our setback. When it comes down to, you know, equity or, you know, just... Trademarks, copyrights, intellectual property. Yeah, intellectual property or just in the creative space. I think we're more so looked at as a niche rather than actual like an artist or people. And I do think as a black artist, it is a responsibility to put the truth in the music so that people are engaged in something tangible rather than something that's not going to feed them. Even with your radio show here, you're providing a sense of... of conversation, whether people believe that is true or not is not the concern for me, just more so you're giving people a different perspective. And I think that is also another issue in America is that no one is allowed to have a different perspective. And when you are or also you end up becoming what you don't like. So let's say, you know, you feel suppressed. Now you end up suppressing someone else's voice because you believe that your truth is more honest than the other person's truth. OK, so. You want to go? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I remember like on KS-107, I was trying to get a show like yours on that station. And Johnny, I forgot his last name. But anyway, he says, oh, no, that would confuse my audience. I said, someone expressing their view other than what the hip hop is saying, like, you know, let's do drugs. Let's, you know, have sex with anybody. Let's call them, you know, different names.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that is going to confuse your audience to have a real conversation.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can't sit up here and have a conversation with a male that believes that a man can have a menstrual cycle or a man can give birth.
SPEAKER 12 :
I would challenge you to do so. I do it all the time. Yeah, I would say keep doing it because that's the only way you are able to acknowledge what is actually true is by conflicting ideas. But how much common sense do you have to have? So I'm going to ask you guys a question. Common sense just isn't common.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right about that, bro. So I'm going to ask you guys this question. have you been discriminated against or even hated upon more by your own race or by the white race? Yeah, look at him. Look at his face. We all know what the answer is. It ain't the white man.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think it's different levels.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, it's one level.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, for sure. Because you have to go into the psychology of why a group of people would hate themselves. So it's it's for us to have common sense. That's common is to go into the psychology of why a group of people would hate themselves. And what does that mean? Where does that come from? And I think when you are engaged in that conversation, honestly and truthfully and with facts, you will see that it's due to the oppression of these people for four months and decades. I mean, not months, but years, years and years of feeling like they are nothing and having to step up in a society where they are told they are nothing. You know, whether that's true or not is not the case.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's hard.
SPEAKER 12 :
Breaking through that is very is a diverse. I mean, so can you walk down?
SPEAKER 03 :
OK, let's use cops. OK, do cops kill black people or do black people kill black people?
SPEAKER 12 :
Both of them kill each other. It's a whole different level, though. I agree, but I think for us to point out one.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm not pointing out one. I'm talking about here's the fact that I know for sure. Right. I can't rock down certain neighborhoods that are black if I'm wearing a certain color. I have to dodge bullets in different areas of the black community. But I've never been me. I've never been in a white community and had anything happen to me. Never. Now, I went to an all white school as a little kid. So when I'm telling you this is history here and knowledge, I was the only black person in the school. from third grade all the way to six until my brother came. And then from there through junior high, it was one of five out of a thousand plus. You was the only one. Oh, yeah. I fought every day, scared every day, you know, the whole nine. And I wonder why people hate. But, you know, racism is taught. If you put a black baby and a white baby in the same room, they're gonna play and get along like it's nothing. But I can tell you in my experiences as a regular individual and as someone that has made it to a certain level in the entertainment business and behind the scenes,
SPEAKER 12 :
Nah, man. I've had a similar experience to yours being that I was in all the way up to like fourth grade. I was in Virginia, which is a predominantly mixed race, more majority white, Newport News, Virginia. Shout out Newport News. Yeah. But, yeah, I moved from there when I was in third grade all the way to Clayton County, Georgia. And it was nothing but beautiful black people everywhere. Right. And I look at it from a sense of it was a culture shock because I'm from Virginia. Right. I talk a certain way. I conversate a certain way. So a lot of the conversation around my presence was, okay, why does he talk like a white boy? White boy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was going to say, they didn't say you talk white boy or corporate or commercial. Yeah, they tell me that all the time too.
SPEAKER 12 :
But check me out real quick. So even with that conversation, There is no level of racism that I experienced in Deep South that I will say was as brash and as offensive as what I experienced when I moved back to Virginia at 19 years old. where I was being called an N-word by a white man who was my coworker at the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so when you say N-word, here's hypocrisy. Now, I like to keep the energy the same. Let's go. I like to keep it the same. Now, if that's such a bad word... Why do we call each other that? If that's such a bad word, why do we call it that?
SPEAKER 12 :
So this is what goes into the epitomology of words, right? And how culture can change a word over time. So there's lots of words that are derogatory definitions in, let's say, the Roman century, right? And then as time goes on, it becomes common language. As for the N-word, it is not the N-I-G-E-R that we are saying to each other. It is N-I-G-G-A.
SPEAKER 03 :
I knew that was coming.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which is also a term to break black people down. And as black people, our power would be to take the power of the word back by using it. And now it's a term of endearment. And we have taken the power and the sting out of that word. So in that, it's like you have to pick and choose. Do you want to be offended by the word as a black person? Or do you want to be empowered by the word?
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me tell you exactly. And I feel you because some of the things you just said, I say all the time. We've made it. We've normalized it. We've changed that word into a term of endearment. And all you got to do, you guys want to be in the industry. Who the heck do you think is going to buy your records? Who do you think is out there buying your records? Do you think it's more black people or more white people buying your rap music? More white people. More white people. So can you get upset if they're listening to your song and you pull up next to them in the car, the system's banging, and they're rapping and they say the N-word? What are you going to say?
SPEAKER 12 :
I say it like this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Don't be hypocritical. I'm not being hypocritical.
SPEAKER 12 :
I say whatever you do in the presence of your own space and with your own people and in the community that you exist in, if they allow you to say that word and you, you know, are in that space to say it, that's fine. But don't assume that everyone who is around you is going to be respectable of that word. Right. And that's just that. Like, I don't think that I have to set a statement of no one can say the word because let's be honest, like you can say whatever you want to say. There is reactionary, you know, there is reactionary, you know, things for things that you might say.
SPEAKER 10 :
J-Lo learned that the hard way. J-Lo. You've heard of promotion, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
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Woo! 560 KLZ on the Unita. We got the heavyweights in here today. So we talking about, like we usually do, very important things because these things have to be discussed before we can bring communities together. And we talk about intellectual properties. And that's how I got into Trump is intellectual properties. I found out when we found out that our song was took. And it was making all that is I will say it was a male plus that was stolen from us. So understand that there are certain countries and certain like I tell everybody all the time. And I have Asian friends and I mean real Asian friends that I talk to that I've never met. And I'm just one lady I know for seven years. I know her kids. And she's been telling me the real deal about China for the longest. And so when I tell you about racism. It's not the white dude. It's not the white man. The race that hates you the most is the Asian race. So I'm just telling you straight out, you know, Google it. We'll go through what you need to, but that's what it is. You're dealing with a country, and I won't say it's more or less most of the people, but you're dealing with a dictatorship. Yeah. That's a whole different ball game. And I can tell you, their kids, there's video of three-year-olds doing backflips like they're in the Olympics. Their kids study neuroscience and geometry and astronomics and all kind of stuff at a young age. And they support their country. Everything they do, they're supporting and saluting their country. And they're very smart, very hard workers. And that part of being a dictatorship I like. See, to me, America is kind of too free. You know, I don't think you should be able to go burn the flag and different things that you shouldn't do. Try that in those other countries. My friend called me in COVID when they were locking her inside of the apartment. My friend called me and their big production company she works with. The government came in and shut them down and said, hey, you're now making bulletproof vests and helmets. China don't do things for fun. Understand what you're dealing with. Like America does not want to face China right now. We don't. And our mentality, like our Navy, our Air Force, everything, have you ever seen their infrastructure? And I mean, just get with somebody that can look it up for you and describe it to you. Their trains, their planes, their automobiles, their technology is far superior than ours, far. Like they do incredible, incredible stuff. We're so behind as a country and it's scary. When they say Taiwan is theirs, oh, you better believe it. America needs to stay out of, they spread this up too thin, the things that they shouldn't be. But you don't want to mess with China. And I'm telling you, remember you heard it from me. Because I get a lot of stuff, man. I'm not a conspiracy theorist or nothing. I'm truly about my people. I know in my experience and the things that I've seen, I was going to the Grammys. I went to get my hair braided. I had long hair. I was getting my hair braided, and I wasn't paying attention to what I was wearing. And I'm in there in the chair, and I'm getting my hair braided. And I'm like, yeah, I'm VIP at the Grammys, you know, that, blah, blah, blah. And the lady tells me. uh you're in town for the for the music stuff yeah yeah yeah uh do you know where you are i'm like yeah i was i was i in compton it was one of them i don't remember and she said what you got on can get you killed here this is my first time yo i'm like what are you talking about I'm looking on, depending on what colors I have, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she said, you got the wrong colors to be on this side of town. And so me being arrogant, I'm like, oh, please, I don't care about that, blah, blah, blah. We get our hair done and we're heading and we decide to stop by the liquor store. All these people and different, you know, hanging out at the liquor store. I get out and people are looking at me like they're getting ready to kill me. And that's what I'm trying to tell you. I've never had these horrific experiences on this level. It's always been black on black crime. You should have said, what's up, man? Yeah, I'm here because I didn't say what's up. She's like, what's going on? But I'm telling you, it's real.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's real. It's stupid. It's real stupid, but it is actually real. I understand there's certain communities where in our subsection of being a... black in America, I think one thing that people have to understand is there's culture everywhere. And some places in other countries, you can't go everywhere. It's the same thing. It's not just in black communities. It's not just in, you know, even in America, there's certain places that I feel like white people won't go. Like, In Aurora, for example, Colorado, it's like there is a clear line drawn in the sand of places not to go. And Aurora is one of those places. And as somebody who lives in Aurora, as a blind man, I walk comfortably every day in Aurora, and I have no issue. Why do you think that is? Maybe because I'm a confident black man. I don't have any fear in my heart when I'm walking around, so people don't feel the need to want to challenge me.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, that ain't it. It's more compassion. It's more compassion. It's more, he is not a threat, or blah, blah, blah. But some people might look at you as an easy target.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm a black man in America. That's equally looked at as a threat.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can I tell you a story? Go ahead. I was 21 in L.A., and because I had a cane, it was at night, one guy ran off the bus, and it was like 20 guys ran after him. He took it back around, got on the bus. This other guy, he took off his belt and started whipping the bus. You know, whatever that guy did, you know, I don't know if he's going to survive if he ever goes back to the neighborhood. But they sat down, and the OGs and the young guys were talking, and I was invisible, I think, because I had that cane. And that was like in the 80s. So I knew where I was invisible and where I wasn't. But I still paid attention to the rules of the game because They can mistakenly mistake you for that other person if you're wearing the right color because they only see that color. So I paid attention to that. But I knew that in a certain situation, because I had that cane, I was invisible.
SPEAKER 12 :
But can I introduce another perspective? Go ahead. The opposite side of it. So when I moved to Colorado, I moved to Littleton, which is a predominantly white area.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
From somebody who's lived in both, I have experienced more regression and aggression towards me in Littleton than I have in Aurora as a blind man. Before you were blind or after? I've only existed in Colorado as a blind man.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so that's my experience. Littleton, even on the subway, there's this woman who literally waits at the bus station to basically... not to harass you verbally harass you and tell you that you're not blind and you're faking I've never experienced that in Aurora ever I can tell you and I understand I'm not saying that there isn't racism that's portrayed on us But I wouldn't even say racism. It's just just harassment. Like that's just little just little microaggressions that you experience in different places. Like when we're talking about Aurora or, you know, in Colorado and certain places you can't go. It's just to me, it's just energy that you're going to experience wherever you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, see, that's that's amazing coming from you. Now, my boy over here, good-looking brother, you're going out, you're going down. If you go through a white neighborhood in Littleton, Parker, or wherever, do you think you're going to receive racism if you're dressed a certain way and you look a certain way? And dressing exactly like that, going to Chicago or the deep hoods here, what do you think will happen? Same clothes, same person, same energy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Tell me. I'm going through Chicago and stuff. I'm wearing a nice, luxurious leather jacket. Looking good.
SPEAKER 03 :
You just said that word, man. You just said the word. And see, it's a term. Have you ever seen that it's a mob movie when they're explaining They're explaining their language, and one word means 20 different things, depending on how you say it. That's the situation we're in. But to finish what you're saying is that they're going to hate on you. They might look at you, see what this is, and might look at trying to rob you and take a sub, right? Now, you do that same person, and you're the same person in another area, like...
SPEAKER 11 :
littleton like parker what are they gonna they're gonna treat me with respect and um look at me as a different black dude because it's two different types of black people it's people that's like hood and his people that's okay he's corporate enough for me to like at least talk to him have a conversation with him and stuff and maybe introduce him to some things that i know you know i said as a white man yeah true from their perspective
SPEAKER 06 :
I got a question, if you don't mind. I feel like there's a very common argument that gets posed. You see it a lot sort of in popular discourse where the argument's framed as, you know, what do you experience today? as a black man in America, you know, what, what disadvantages do you have in today's day and age, right? Where the argument is everyone's equal, all the same laws apply to all the same people. Uh, so, you know, how are you in any way, you know, lower now in America is I think what I hear. And I'd love to hear sort of your response to that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Go ahead. Who, mine? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, I got a triple threat, man. I'm a tall, black, blind man. So it's like me walking around at any time could be looked at as intimidating. And I've heard that. Even just as a blind man, people don't want to approach because... I just a lot that my energy comes with a lot. It's you have to be respectful, but then you also have to, you know, you're you're one you're trying to be caring. You're wanting to figure out if you should help this person or, you know, you see as you experience as you see, but you experience this. experience it and what I'm talking about just in my avenues of gaining support through avenues that are supposed to be for support like you know certain I guess like systems that have been created for blind people it's really hard to to express what it is that you need help with in those spaces because they are not known you know they don't understand your experience and And this is why I say spaces like this are important so that you're able to have honest conversation about difference of experience. So what happens is everyone, you know, who thinks a certain way, they will hive together and create things in their own mindset while limiting the limited experience. Okay. So with that, I'm all about truth. Okay. Who would you vote for? I don't have to say. I know you don't have to. I don't have to say who I voted for. But I will say this. I will say this. My vote is my expression of who my experience. Same way for you. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not the question. The question is, who did you vote for? I don't even know why. I vote for God. But God ain't on the ballot. God is always on the ballot. He's in your heart. He's in the restaurant. But I'm saying actually pen the paper. You talk about truth. You talk about justice. You talk about being brave and all this stuff. I did not vote this year. Okay. You. Who'd you vote for?
SPEAKER 11 :
I didn't vote for anybody. Why? I felt like there wasn't going to be much done because it's been a whole bunch of lies been told history through history through history. A lot of things are the same. It's a bunch of chaos. The world is off its balance.
SPEAKER 03 :
You got it. And I agree with that. I don't care who you voted for in reference to. I'm not going to treat you one way or another. But I love sitting down with conversations and I like to say, hey, K, who? Because the music industry taught me this, man. I'm telling you, that is who I owe a lot of eye opening. It makes you question everything. So when I got into politics, it was only because of the intellectual properties. And I seen who was saying it. And I'm like, oh, yeah. And then I seen all the crap that was coming. I'm like, that's not true. Trump does this. That's not true. We all love that. All these lies. And you have to say, why? Why? Then you have to start digging.
SPEAKER 12 :
Can I ask a deeper question? Go ahead. So your experience is your experience, yeah? That is where you draw your perspectives, your outlook on life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
I will never sit here and tell you that your experience is not true.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Never. whatever you felt from trump is what you felt which is why you voted for him so in the sense when we're talking about the left it's the same thing their truth their experience is their experience and we are not to question their existence because it is almost giving them the right to question yours
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I don't look at it that way because I look at it with much more of a truth. If you jump out of an airplane without a parachute, I don't need to know that experience. I know what's going to happen to you. That is what is called an absolute truth. Yes, and so let's be absolutely truthful. My thing is experiences build who you are. But just because your experience happened over here, Doesn't mean that that's absolutely right. Whatever that truth may be in your experience and come in there, you bring it to the table because that people can learn from that. And then also people can fact check you and say, OK, there's not a minority and there's a majority.
SPEAKER 12 :
How do you fact check someone's experience? Easy. How do you do that?
SPEAKER 03 :
How do I do it?
SPEAKER 12 :
Where is the where is the understanding to fact check someone's experience? If you have not lived the life, you have not experienced it. You can see you just said earlier that you you couldn't imagine what it is to be blind. So you have to have the.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I don't need to have that experience to be able to sit here and know what you go through. Right. But you do have.
SPEAKER 12 :
But you do have to listen to the person who's experienced it to understand what it is that they're going through. Exactly. So what I think when this goes back to your question is what I think is affecting people the most is the lack of empathy for other people's experience. Whether it's true, whether it isn't, that is not us to judge. It is the lack of understanding and empathy for others that creates the divisions.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so when it comes to empathy, I'm your dude. When you guys first walked in, what's the first thing I said? You guys are my heroes. And this is not even just about you, but just bringing it back to that question. No, in general. But I appreciate that. But I'm telling you, as soon as you walk through the door, I say, you guys are my heroes. Because I don't have to live your life to know that it's difficult. It's difficult what you go through. It's a disadvantage in so many ways what you go through. And I'm saying, I don't have the strength. That's why I tell Johnny all the time, do I? Do I not? I say, Johnny, you're my hero, dude, because I don't know your everyday life. I can imagine it, but common sense tells me that it is much harder for everyday stuff than you and I. You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it is. But I think for me, as a blind man, I will never diminish your experience either i don't know what you have going up there's just there's a saying right where it's like if you if god was to be like everybody throw their problems up in the air right just everybody throw whatever it is that you're experiencing you you don't like you your your emotional weight throw it all up in the air give it give it up in the air and god asks you I'm going to switch your problems with someone else's problems. You make the decision. Do you want to keep your own problems or do you want someone else's?
SPEAKER 03 :
It depends. If I have a multiple choice and being blind is on that choice, I guarantee you that won't be one. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
So in a sense, it's the same for me. I don't want your problems either. Yeah, but you do. I don't. I am of a different perspective of my blindness is not my weakness.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, no, I understand where you take it from a strength. Yeah. But, so are you telling me that if you had that choice to switch that experience that you're in now with something else, you wouldn't do it? No, because my experience is my experience.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, hey, brother, I got you.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's why you're my hero. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
I've lived my experience. I am happy in my experience. There's no way to diminish what I'm experiencing by your own fear of what it is that I'm experiencing. And that is the conversation that I think people have a hard time understanding when it comes to empathy. It's understanding that no one else is hard. No one's life is harder than yours. So how do you get...
SPEAKER 03 :
I know a lot of people's life is much harder than mine. I'm saying, how do you as a person, and I mean this wholeheartedly, how do you find faith besides God and to know what you've got to deal with every day? You know, like Johnny was telling me, he was at the grocery store and somebody came and knocked him down or hit him and ran or something. I mean, how do you...
SPEAKER 12 :
prepare yourself every day and have the encourage and the positive outlook that you do so as somebody who has lived both blind in a sighted world I've only been blind for like three years I'm just now coming into the terms of like what it is to actually be blind but it's and for me looking back at it I personally feel like my experience and my outlook at life has grown because I didn't know anything about the blind experience before. I didn't think about it. I was just telling Diesel this the other day. I didn't think about it. I didn't look at it in a way. It was never something that I...
SPEAKER 03 :
wanted or thought i would ever experience hey i hate i hate to interrupt you man this conversation was going so great but we are running out of time and uh actually we are out of time so you know how we count we counted off man everybody say three two one and we out of here and then there we go i'm gonna invite you guys back because we're gonna continue this conversation this is nice thank you three two one
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. All right, y'all. It's that time. We out of here. But you've been listening to KLC 560 AM. I'm a united Reggie Bravo. Yeah, it's fun. We will tackle the issues. We will unite the country every week, every Friday morning from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. It's about love, y'all. Have a wonderful morning and a great day.
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SPEAKER 07 :
And now your host, Logan Secula. Welcome to Secula. We're going to be taking your calls today because we've got a lot of breaking news at 1-800-684-3110. Will Haynes is joining me in studio. Harry Hutchinson is going to be joining us a little bit later. But there is some big breaking news. Obviously this morning you may have heard the update where the Supreme Court has said it is okay to go ahead with the ban on TikTok. I'd love to get your thoughts on that. Give us a call again, like I said, at 1-800-684-3110. 31 10 and as people are tuning in right now on radio on youtube on rumble on the salem news channel i know a lot of you saw that headline and that is that the trump inauguration had a major change and that was just it hasn't even been officially announced that has been highly speculated speculated sources are saying the trump inauguration will be moving indoors now the primary reason for this you may have expected is because of very cold weather that is coming on Monday to Washington, D.C. However, you can also look into this and say this could be a very big sigh of relief for the Secret Service. Now, it is a bummer for a lot of people who are planning on making that trip. I know there are people in our own office doing that. There are people who are involved who really want to go see that moment, family members. But unfortunately... All reports are right now that the Trump-Vance swearing-in ceremony traditionally that takes place will be moving inside, likely inside the Capitol. That's where we're at.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. So clearly there hasn't been an official announcement, but every reporter in D.C. is getting the same information from sources, which means... They're getting it out there now with an official announcement with what it will look like forthcoming. But we're seeing that because of what they're calling dangerously cold temperatures expected on Monday, that they are moving it inside. That means it'll be in the rotunda there at the Capitol. And when you look at the weather... Typically, we're not giving you a 10-day forecast here, but on Monday, it is a high of 24 degrees, a low of 9, expected to be around 22, 23 degrees around the time of the swearing-in. People are obviously there for hours upon hours beforehand as they try to get their position in on the lawn.
SPEAKER 07 :
One of my friends that has a ticketed version says that he had to arrive at 5 a.m. Right. So, I mean, you're talking about a very cold pre even sun coming up. I'd love to hear your thoughts. I'm actually looking at the comments and a lot of you are are very happy about this and are really mainly because of safety. Obviously, everyone was concerned when you've had multiple assassination attempts. on a presidential candidate what this looks like. And sadly, this is the state of America. I think this is something we can hopefully get away from soon. But right now, the safety and security of everyone is dealing with this. Now, I encourage you to give me a call because I want to know your thoughts at 1-800-684-3110. This also comes on just hours ago, the Supreme Court ruling that the ban on TikTok, TikTok, could go in place, could continue to happen, and that could happen as early as Monday. However, it looks like President Biden is going to kick it down the road, put a hold on this, and let the Trump administration figure out what to do. Now, there's a lot of thoughts. A lot of people are happy about this. A lot of people are sad. I'll tell you, I have a lot of mixed feelings. Here in our own office, you cannot use TikTok on our servers. That is for security reasons. So clearly, we know there is an issue there because we do not allow that on our servers. However... You also have an economy built on that for a lot of people. So I'm very concerned when you ever start censoring speech. Yes, the reason that they are trying to censor TikTok isn't really to do with the speech being homegrown in America or even the speech being controlled. It is where your data and your privacy is going. How they can be a part of that. Give us a call. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Because this one, I think there's a conservative libertarian point of view here that is... a bit at odds i'd love to hear your thoughts and on your thoughts on the swearing and moving indoors we're also going to discuss a new aclj case uh that's really wild and it involves another big tech company so stay tuned to that give us a call as i said at 1-800-684-3110 we're facing some big challenges this year we got a new administration taking office in just a few days and we know we have to be ready So the ACLJ, we're planning to defend liberty. I can't wait for you to hear this one. You're going to be shocked by this one coming up in just a few segments of really what's happening to the American people. 1-800-684-3110. But become an ACLJ champion right now at aclj.org. Welcome back to Secular. We are obviously covering kind of two big breaking news stories, the TikTok story, and President Trump just put out some sort of statement because of the cold, saying he doesn't want to see injuries, moving the inauguration inside. It could be a disappointment to a lot of people, but I see a lot of great comments coming in. People are actually happy that he's taking this step. But Rick Grinnell is joining us. Last second, Rick, I appreciate you calling in because you were pretty early. on telling us about the issues that were coming out of TikTok years ago, what the concerns were, not necessarily calling for a ban on TikTok, but said, hey, if you're concerned about your privacy, don't have it on your phone. We don't allow it on our servers here at the ACLJ. Some of that was due to your advice. However, we're at this point now where the Supreme Court has ruled that they can ban it, but you have President Trump coming out and saying, you know what, and I think he's right in this, saying we need to figure out a way to move forward.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, look, this is a difficult issue. And I think President Trump is going about it the right way. Remember, we tried early in the days of TikTok to just ban it or get an American company to host it. That was kind of the compromise. That didn't work. The court said, no, you can't ban it. So the president, President Trump, followed the rule of law, followed what the court said and said, OK, well, let's try to get a more aggressive ownership of an American. That's where we are now. It hasn't been able to be solved in the Biden administration. So once again, here's another issue that has to come back to Donald Trump's plate. And we're going to have to make sure that we find an American firm to not only buy it, but to host it. so that you can really mitigate as much as possible the information flow back to communist China. Remember, they don't allow the current version of TikTok that's available in the United States. The Chinese don't allow that version in China. Right. And so there's a, there's a lot of questions for how do you mitigate the problem? But I do think that president Trump is right that, uh, you know, we've got some of the same aggressive problems with Facebook, Instagram, some of the other social media platforms have not always been, uh, you know, pro friendly, uh, yeah, friendly or, or just, or just pro free speech. Right. And not manipulating the content in some way. So I think this is yet just another problem that TikTok has in the larger issue of social media.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, because at least with Meta, with Facebook, or now with X, even before when it was Twitter, we could at least turn to it and go, Mark Zuckerberg. runs this. Now, Elon Musk or Jack Dorsey, there were American faces or very known people who are running it. I don't think most people, if you said who was running TikTok, the transparency is not there. We know it's not there. However, you do have a situation where a lot of Americans have built Most, you know, 90% plus for a lot of these creators and influencers, a lot of their revenue comes through TikTok directly or indirectly. And again, I know a lot of you will go, well, that's just, you know, influencer culture and all that. But think about even the people who are, I use an example, created a candle company that went viral on TikTok. you do have to think about those people because they are Americans contributing to society. Now, you are right. The TikTok version in China, it's very education-based. It is not this endless sea of mind reading, which is what it does feel like when you're using it. But maybe this will be a moment where we'll see some change because there are some big voices, some big names in tech and in media that have come and said, hey, we want to buy it. And now it's, I guess, the question of, does China say... Great. We'll happily sell it to you. Or does China say, well, then now we don't even have the influence we want out of it. Oh, well.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think China will absolutely sell it. They realize what a huge deal it is. There'll be some sort of a partnership. But let's remember one thing. Mark Zuckerberg and Meta spent billions of dollars to hire people that were responsible for looking at the content of of users on Facebook, my mother's content, when she would update her status, Facebook employed people to look at that to say, is this accurate information or is this misinformation? We've gone from opinions being illegal in this country. And Mark Zuckerberg was at the forefront of that. I'm sorry, but I'm not easily swayed with, you know, suddenly he's now a fan of Donald Trump after Donald Trump won the popular vote. I think Mark Zuckerberg is a big fan of money.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you run into him at the inauguration, let us know. Let us know what he thinks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go ahead, Will. And Rick, I mean, I think what we have here also is two issues that for the audience to think about as well as one, yes, we've had an issue with the way that especially these American social media companies have acted, have acquiesced to the censorship that the government wanted to impose and whether that is, as you mentioned, because They're going to go with the winds of the administration if they want to make more money. But at the end of the day, it still was inappropriate, unconstitutional actions that were happening across social media platforms when it came to censorship. But then you also have to look at the TikTok issue, which... on its face, has a lot of the same issues with data privacy, the ability to look across your device at other things and garner information that way, which our American companies are doing too. But the difference here with TikTok is that it's a... adversarial foreign government that is able to get this. And you think of the national security implications across the board. If our soldiers have this on their phone, if people within the administration or within the bureaucracies have this on their phone and the ability to easily lose track of things to a foreign adversary is really what the impetus for this was. But we still have a lot of other issues with the privacy issues as conservatives, especially that are going rampant with other apps in this country.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, well, when I was in high school, I remember thinking I'm never going to be that old stuffy person that says, you know, get off my lawn or turn down that music. I always thought of myself as hip and cool and, you know, pop culture driven. And I now have to admit to you that I don't allow TikTok into my home. After being the D&I and seeing how the Chinese operate, I'm not very popular with my friends, kids, or my nephews and nieces because I don't want that product in my home. And so I ask people who come in, I'm that stick in the mud. When you come into my home, I ask you if you've got TikTok on your phone to leave the phone outside.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I mean, that should say it all, Rick. I mean, that is a pretty... And look, you've told us that, and that's one of the reasons that we do not have it here on our servers locally, here in the offices. We don't tell our employees what to download or not download, but we make sure that we don't have it at least connected to our servers. Rick, I appreciate you calling in. I know it was just at the last second here, but I wanted to get, because I knew you were on the forefront of all of this originally, so I just wanted to get your thoughts. Obviously, we're looking at Washington, D.C. right now. A lot of people coming to town for the inauguration. There is your reports right now that that will be moved inside, so it's going to be a little bit different, but it still will be a pretty wild week coming up.
SPEAKER 12 :
All the best. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thanks, Rick. Thanks for joining us. Give us a call, by the way, right now. 1-800-684-3110. A lot of you called in and didn't stay on hold because you got to let our screeners do their job. So just stay on hold. Even if you just hear it ringing, give it a little bit. We'll try to get to you. And we'll be back in just a minute with more calls and questions. Let's go to Robin, who's calling in Nevada on line one. Robin, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, thanks for having me. Is the inauguration... Hold on, let me get you off echo here. Is the inauguration taking place in the same Capitol where Trump was supposed to have incited the storming of the Capitol January 2nd? Is that not poetic justice?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know if it's poetic justice, but you can at least say that it is an interesting, maybe you say, into that story. Right, the final chapter of that saga. As George Lucas would say for Star Wars, it echoes. It has a moment where the theory goes around and it all comes full circle.
SPEAKER 04 :
Does that mean that there's going to be 36 more Trump inaugurations because of the way the Star Wars franchise works out? I'm talking about the original Star Wars. Oh, okay, got it.
SPEAKER 07 :
The history repeats itself. to a way where, yes, you have these sort of big moments where you'll have this conclusion. And yes, I think that will be part of the story in history. I think history books will look, books, you know, the internet, will look back and say, our brain chips from Elon, will say, isn't that wild? That's a crazy end to this story, if you will, that because of the weather. Now, this is not the first time the inauguration has had to be moved inside. It happened to Ronald Reagan. It's happened multiple times throughout history. this entire run. But hey, you know what? President Trump is a Floridian now. He knows. Too cold. Too cold.
SPEAKER 04 :
Too cold. To her point, our caller's point, you can guarantee that on MSNBC and CNN, they are going to have side-by-sides of the swearing-in ceremony and the protesters walking through the rotunda. Van Jones is going to be crying. They have already, as soon as this information went out, they ordered the graphics department to start mocking up the side-by-side, try to find the right angle so it looks identical because they're going to try to repeat that forever.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's like my wife took a great picture of my kids walking across Abbey Road and nailed it perfectly. That's what they're going to do. They're just going to be like exactly the same. Again, phone lines are open for your calls. I'd love to hear from you. Ronald's Downhold will get to you when we come back. And we're also going to talk about a new ACLJ client This is a pretty wild story. Again, it does involve big tech and really a big push against supporters of Israel. But in this one, not even just supporters of Israel, people that survived the Holocaust. You're not going to want to miss this. Stay tuned. 1-800-684-3110. And again, I encourage you, if you like this broadcast, hit that subscribe button or become an ACLJ champion right now. Welcome back to Secular. Again, we're going to take your calls. Stay on hold if you're listening right now. Just give us a minute to get screened through these. We did want to, again, bring up the breaking news that President Trump's second inauguration will be now inside the United States Capitol Rotunda. He put out a statement. It was used, obviously, by Ronald Reagan in 1985, who had his ceremonial inauguration, fun fact, at Walt Disney World at Epcot. You should watch those. Look at those pictures. See those videos. If you ever wanted to see something crazy, see the president speaking out in front of Spaceship Earth. But this is what he said. I have ordered the inauguration address in addition to the prayers and other speakers to be delivered inside the United States Capitol Rotunda, as was used by Ronald Reagan in 1985, also because of very cold weather. The various dignitaries and guests will be brought into the Capitol. This will be a very beautiful experience for all, and especially for the large TV audience. We will open Capitol One Arena on Monday for live viewing of this historic event. and to host the presidential parade. I will join the crowd at Capital One after my swearing in. So again, Capital One Arena, though, it holds, formerly the MCI Center, for those who remember that, it probably holds a normal size of an arena, somewhere between 19,000 and 20,000. Not exactly fitting everybody in there, probably, but you will at least have something that people who have gotten tickets, probably those guaranteed tickets, will be able to attend. And again, this is what the big breaking news is. A lot of people are speculating, of course, the security concerns that were going to be happening of an outside event, a big event which you can't necessarily control everything. And obviously, I'm sure the Secret Service is somewhat breathing a sigh of relief trying to figure out what to do after you've had such a chaotic six months or seven months for President Trump in his run up to the election. So again this is what's happening. That's the big breaking news item as well as the TikTok ban that is still set to go in place. It's up to President Trump on how that will be taken care of. And again, I wanted to cover that, make sure you guys all know what's happening here in Capital One Arena, Will. Happens to be where I saw my first ever WCW Monday Nitro. So for those, that was the night that Sting joined the Wolfpack. So you know what? I should text Sting and get his advice.
SPEAKER 04 :
True patriot. He should have been on air today after this breaking news.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's a true patriot, that Steve Borden. He is. All right, let's move a little bit to the work of the ACLJ. We have a very interesting client right now. I think you're going to get shocked by this. You know, for Amazon, yep, that's right. I said it. With Amazon, which we've all used, let's just be honest. Everyone uses Amazon. You can put up your own book and release your own book, self-publish these books, and you can order copies. This is what our client did. They ordered copies of their book, which is about a Holocaust survivor. Her father, actually. Her father. You know, they probably have thousands of these churning a day, I would assume, of these self-published books or even published books. You know, they are the ones providing the printing. When those books arrived directly from the Amazon warehouses and printers that create these books, if you're watching right now, either on YouTube Rumble or the Salem News Channel or on X or on Facebook, this is what it looked like. When you opened up the pages, there were pages that said Zionism kills Jews. Open up another copy of it. What do we got there? What about the blood of Palestine? Let's keep going. I think there's some more. This one is from the river to the sea. Palestine will be free. And if you're not watching, if you're just listening to Liberate Palestine, if you're just listening, this isn't like little marks written on the cover or written in the small print somewhere. These are giant marker pages.
SPEAKER 04 :
essentially graffitied over the entire pages and what we are demanding is that amazon give some answers to this well that's right so these copies every copy she received word was defaced yeah by someone within the supply chain at some point uh before before packaging i would assume because i don't believe it was opened and then defaced then repackaged But she had reached out to Amazon and she's an Israeli American. This book is called Daughter of the Holocaust. It is about her father, who is a Holocaust survivor. And she received inadequate responses from Amazon originally. And she was actually in Israel and had these books delivered to her son's house. So by the time when she got home It was outside of the return window because she didn't have adequate time to check because she had them delivered to her son's home and came. So then she shows them like, sorry, we can't we can't really do anything. It's outside of our terms of service. But now she is a client of the ACLJ. This is a breach of contract from Amazon is what we are letting them know. And we're demanding from Amazon that they replace the destroyed books that were defaced with anti-Semitic hate. Conduct a thorough investigation of this conduct and provide our client with confirmation that the responsible party has been terminated and also provide her with a report of the investigation. Now, that obviously will take time, but we are demanding a response from Amazon that they get back to us, letting us know that this will occur tomorrow. By January 23rd. So just early into next week, they need to provide a lot more answers and a lot more things of confirmations that they are going to move forward and start making this right.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know they can track this back. They know the printer that was used. I mean, I'm talking about not necessarily the printer. I'm talking about the physical printer. They know where it came from. They then know where it went from there to binding, then from binding to packaging. There are cameras, I assume, and I would hope, honestly, at Amazon's warehouses for quality control. checking all of these things they can find it and we were going to do our best here at the aclj to make sure that they do this is taken care of and our client is taking care of them by the way they're taken care of as i've said on this show numerous times at no cost to them i highly doubt that this person could go get a lawyer spend the money that would take to go after and to try to be vindicated by a company like amazon you know that is a true david goliath story uh in this moment but because of the aclj and because of aclj champions people that give on a monthly basis or people that give individually just your donors because all of these clients all of these clients get this legal services at no cost to them zero dollars out of pocket now obviously we want to be able to pay the best of the best our best attorneys that we can get we can't do that without your support because one day it could be you one day it could be me The ACLJ is here. And by the way, if you need legal help, easy, aclj.org slash help. If it's within our scope of what we do here, you're going to get immediately attached to an attorney and get the ball rolling. So let's do it again. If you listen to moments like this, you see stories like this, you see the hate that's happening in this country. you know that we can't just stand by and do nothing. So I encourage you again to go to aclj.org. We are going to take some more phone calls coming up. A lot of you are joining us right now, by the way, on YouTube. I can see the numbers. If you are brand new to this show, which a lot of you are, as I know, I look at the analytics, about 50% of the people who watch this show every day have never seen us before. And well over 50% don't subscribe. We do this show every day, noon to 1 p.m. Eastern Live. And we put up a lot of other great content. So I'm encouraging you right now, if you can't give or you're brand new and you're not sure if you're ready to give to the ACLJ, which supports this show, good free way to do it, hit that subscribe button. We are at 452,000 subscribers. I would love to get that well over a million. Let's do that right now. I mean, we're not gonna be able to do that right now. That'd be nice. It'd be nice. But let's even get another thousand subs, 2,000 subs. It means more than you know. I know that sounds ridiculous because it sounds like I'm just like a YouTuber saying, please subscribe. But what this does, it gets this kind of voice. When you see what we're doing in Washington, D.C., you see what we're doing for clients like this Holocaust survivor's daughter who wrote a book about her father's experience and then had her books all defaced by Amazon, the behemoth of Amazon. And we're going to take them on. We're going to take them to court if necessary. We can't do that without your support. I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org. Do that now. Stay on hold. If you are on hold, we're going to get to you. We're going to take some calls in the next segment and a little bit later in the broadcast. So stay tuned right now. If you don't get us for the full hour, some of your local radio stations don't carry us, find us live or later on on ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, X, and the Salem News Channel. We'll be right back on Sekulow.
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keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Seculo.
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Welcome back to Seculo. We're going to be taking your calls in this segment and later on in the broadcast. Again, we're in the breaking news. It's out of Washington, D.C. as President Trump's inauguration has been announced to be moved indoors. There will be a viewing party at the Capital One Arena where the Washington Wizards play, the Washington Capitals. So there'll be a place for, if you want to say, the regular people, the fans, if you will, the supporters, people that are coming in from all over the country to watch this in a air conditioned, heated environment because it is just so cold. And obviously there's a sigh of relief in terms of the security nature that could, um, You know, scary risks that could happen from such a big outdoor event, especially just a few months after multiple assassination attempts. Let's just be a little bit grateful. I see some of the comments coming in saying that. So I really do appreciate that. Give us a call. 1-800-684-3110. We're going to take some calls and I'll open up some lines. Let's go ahead. First, let's go to Joseph, who's calling in Rhode Island on line three, who is watching. On one of our new homes, the Salem News Channel, which is available as a 24-hour news network, a lot of other great hosts, and we're on it live now from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern. Joseph, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, Logan. I am relieved. that is being moved inside. Not just for his safety, but he is elderly. And if he caught pneumonia, I know because my grandmother died from pneumonia, you know. But I'm surprised that they didn't think of having
SPEAKER 07 :
having it at mar-a-lago you know that you know with the big gulf course you know you could have said everybody like that's what i wanted to say joseph i think there's a lot of people that feel similarly not necessarily because of age but because of health and even said i don't want anyone to get injured is that you know obviously it's an icy area a lot of places to slip and fall uh and then you have the obvious health risks of being out in below freezing temperatures Interesting, you brought up, should they have it in Mar-a-Lago or somewhere like that? The ceremony will definitely be taking place inside the Capitol Rotunda, as it should be. But if you look back to 1985, as I mentioned earlier, President Reagan had his second inauguration celebration, because they had to move it inside, at Epcot at Walt Disney World. So, you know, I don't know if Walt Disney World's still up for hosting an inauguration. A little bit different times with the Walt Disney Corporation. Ronald Reagan helped open Disneyland and was friends with Walt Disney, a true patriot, Walt Disney. But there are things like that that can happen. I wouldn't be surprised if you saw some form of celebration tour that happens for President Trump that feels to be kind of on track for him. But of course, we want him to get in there first and just get this country safe and sound again. And that's what we're hoping for.
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And you have to think that those in the Secret Service as well are thrilled with this move. Obviously, the pomp and circumstance and President Trump's own style is to have the big outdoor celebration with a large crowd extending out down the National Mall. So I feel like he didn't make this decision lightly. It was from advice of, you know, people are going to be out there since 5 a.m. The exposure to that kind of cold for that long is not good and not wanting people to get hurt. But you have to think that with all of the negative and failures of the Secret Service over the past year, that they were probably weighing in on this as well and saying, you You know, if you are moving it in, it's a good move because it is clearly being indoors contained in an already very secure building. Then you have to think that that's a much better thing when the entire world will be watching on Monday as President Trump is sworn in for his second term in office.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I do think there's also not only the concern from the security point of view, because look at what happened during these confirmation hearings that are happening right now. You've had not violent protesters, but you've had very loud, obnoxious, being carried out protesters. Obviously, you know there will be protesters at the inauguration. I don't think there will be as many as there were before, somewhat because of this unprecedented cold here in January in Washington, D.C. But This is a moment again that we'll see what the progress happens. We'll see where it goes. The reaction, though, I'm seeing on our comments, people are, I don't want to say excited, but maybe relieved. Because you're not going to be watching an event with that just concern maybe the whole time if security is really in place or not. Phone lines are open for your calls. 1-800-684-3110. Also, Kristi Noem is up right now doing her confirmation hearing. We'll discuss that as well as continue the updates on TikTok, the updates on President Trump's inauguration and take your calls. All right. Welcome back to Seculo. I did want to address, because there's so many new people joining us right now, I can tell the numbers on YouTube and on Rumble and all of that. You may have saw that headline, Breaking Trump Inauguration Pushed Indoors. That has been officially announced now, even by President Trump. There will be a viewing party that will be happening at the Capital One Arena. That's where the Wizards and the Capitals play. So it holds about 20,000-ish. That's going to be happening during the live event, and then President Trump is going to travel from the Capitol Rotunda, where they'll be doing the indoor event, They'll be traveling to this arena. Again, twofold. One is the weather. It is going to be well below freezing. So a lot of people out there at 5 a.m. or earlier to get their spot, not good for people's health. And then you have the security concerns. Now, they're not addressing the security concerns, but I can tell you by just looking at the comments, I know a lot of you are thinking that way. And there's a lot of people going, I'm relieved. So I'm sure that's true for people within the Secret Service as well. We are going to take some more phone calls, 1-800-684-3110, and we have been discussing the ban on TikTok. Brief update on that, Supreme Court said it can happen. Biden administration looks to be punting it to President Trump, and it is in his hands. He hopes to have a new seller that can get that done, a new American buyer who will buy TikTok and have more transparency and less information going to the Chinese government. Right now, though, we want to shift gears a little bit, Will, and talk about what's going on in Washington as this transition period of time is happening.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. As we see the incoming cabinet members go through their confirmation hearings, and we have Professor Harry Hutchison joining us, we are also seeing, maybe not getting as much play... But a lot of interviews, farewell speeches from current cabinet members. We're seeing Attorney General Merrick Garland had a ceremony yesterday at the FBI to thank them for their hard work over the past four years. He was presented with a Tommy gun from Director Wray.
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If you're watching on any of our platforms, our visual platforms, which you should be, by the way, there it is. I mean, a mob boss style video game looking Tommy gun.
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and and now Christopher Wray said you know this is from you know the beginning of the federal bureau of investigation this was kind of the the arms that they used at the time and so that's what the symbolism is I think that they completely lost the symbolism that everyone associates that with the mob and you are now saying Merrick Garland, here's a symbol of the mob, which I don't know, maybe people have been criticizing the tactics of the FBI of being a little mob-like over the last four years.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, it's got the orange tip at the end, so you know this is a replica. This isn't real. It's not something to work. But still, even the imagery of giving a gun.
SPEAKER 04 :
Merrick Garland did say, I hope this is legal. And he goes, and the ATF guy I think is here, so maybe he can clear it. It's like when Elvis snuck a gun in to give to Nixon. Even the attorney general is questioning, well, maybe I shouldn't be getting this. But, you know, he's not really a gun guy himself. But then you're also seeing he made a statement During this speech where he said, the story has been told by some outside this building about what has happened inside of it is wrong. You have worked to pursue justice, not politics. That is the truth and nothing can change it. Professor Hutchison, what are your thoughts on this revisionist history that Merrick Garland is trying to put out into the world before his time is up?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Will, it's increasingly clear that delusional Democrats continue to live in the exciting world of make-believe. So this past Thursday, we have Attorney General Merritt Garland who urged Department of Justice staffers to resist any efforts by the incoming Trump administration to weaponize the DOJ. It's clear beyond question that Merrick Garland's analysis is exactly backward. What the American people have witnessed over the past seven to eight years under both the Obama administration and the Biden administration is the political weaponization of the DOJ against Donald Trump. I mean, who could forget the effort to prevent Donald Trump from actually appearing on the ballot? within the meaning of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution. Who could forget Jack Smith's multiple efforts to incarcerate Donald Trump based on an alleged election interference claim in Washington DC and based on a classified documents case in Florida. Who could forget published reports of alleged cooperation between the DOJ and Alvin Bragg and the reported cooperation between Fannie Willis in Georgia and the DOJ. And who could forget the January 6th House Committee and Liz Cheney preening before the cameras, the Russia collusion investigation, crossfire hurricane, you name it. There have been multiple efforts by Democrats to essentially prevent Donald Trump from becoming president. And then once he became president in 2016, multiple efforts to prevent him from acting effectively, including two impeachment cases. So I think at the end of the day, the Democrats have got it exactly backward. And it is very good to see the back of Merritt Garland because he's been one of the most incompetent attorney generals in American history.
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And Professor Hutchison, I also want to bring up because Kristi Noem, the governor of South Dakota, is currently today having hearings on her nomination to lead the Department of Homeland Security. And we're seeing Alejandro Mayorkas, the impeached director of Homeland Security. As Nancy Pelosi liked to say, you know, once you're impeached, you're impeached forever. He was impeached by the House of Representatives. They did not have a trial in the Senate over his impeachment. But he went on CNBC and was having a discussion. And the host actually asked him pretty straightforward, you know, a lot of your work on the border. Many point to that as being one of the decisive factors to the loss by Kamala Harris in November. And he was asking his take on that. So this is him responding. This is bite four from the outgoing impeached Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas.
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I'm not sure I'm in a position to agree or disagree with your political conclusion as to what determined the election in November. There are different views having been expressed. I wish that we had more time. And that would enable us to do more, not only in furtherance of our mission, but in the service of the American people. And I don't tend to look back like that. I look forward and see what is ahead and what can be ahead for the benefit of the American people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Professor Hutchison, there was only one Secretary of Homeland Security during the tenure of Joe Biden in the White House. And normally, I mean, sometimes there is turnover within these agencies over the course of a first term, but there was only one. There was Alejandro Mayorkas. He had four years. uh to not create the disaster that they created and yet he's asking and saying that he wishes they had more time to further their mission i don't know if he's talking about more time to completely eviscerate any semblance of a border uh for the united states or what but there was another bite where he also almost threw the people above him uh the president vice president under the bus by saying you know a lot of different views are expressed And then once it's decided what we're going to do, everyone has to unify. So maybe he's trying to rewrite history a little bit, say it's not all my fault. But that statement there alone of saying, I wish I had more time is the most perfect descriptor of this Biden administration where everything they did for four years seemed to be just chaotic. And yet they wish they had more time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. So I think if you look at Mr. Mayorkas, it's imperative to note that the translation of what he said about having more time simply means more time to demonstrate beyond cavil and beyond question his incompetence. There have been few DHS secretaries who have been more incompetent than Mr. Mayorkas. He told the American people that the border is closed. He told the American people that the border is secure. That is one of the greatest lies in American history. So, I think, again, the American people will be happy to see him go. I hope at the end of the day he can find work, perhaps as a janitor or someone else. Or at MSNBC. It's the same thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
He may get a tenured professorship at Harvard. You know, there's a lot of academic jobs that he could get professored.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I don't want to talk bad about anyone in that services because they're doing the hard work out there. But hopefully, like I said, he'll end up on MSNBC. No one will be able to see him. It's fine. They don't have a boss. It's what's happening right now. We only have 50 seconds left. I'm going to take your calls coming up in the next segment. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. We urgently need your support here at the ACLJ. I encourage you to do that right now. We've got a great lineup of calls coming up as well. So stay on hold. If you're in Oklahoma, South Carolina, Maryland, Arizona, all our calls. And if you're brand new and you're wondering what happened with President Trump, why I'm moving to indoors, we'll state that coming up in the next segment. We'll also talk about the TikTok ban as well. And if you are watching right now and you haven't subscribed, I encourage you to do that on YouTube, on Rumble, however you're watching this, Facebook, like the page. Do whatever you need to do to stay engaged with what we're doing here at the ACLJ. We do a show each and every day, so be a part of that as well. And I encourage you, make a comment. If you don't know what to comment, I like reading in the breaks, where are you watching from? Be right back. Welcome back to Secular. I love hearing from the most important voice in the room. Of course, that's you, our callers. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. As we clear through these, there'll be more availability. So do that now or start getting on hold. We've got a lot to go through. Let's go to Lori who's calling. You've been on hold for a long time, Lori. A lot of you have, so stay on hold. Lori in Arizona watching on YouTube. Welcome.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hello. Um, thanks for talking to me. Um, I just have a comment and as, as far as the inauguration of ceremony location is at, it doesn't matter to me. I just want him sworn in as president of the United States. And then the closer that he's to that.
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um desk where he signs those executive orders the sooner our country can get back on track i think that's a lot of us a lot of us just want the safety and security to return once again uh well well and even remember though as you think about these things uh the first inauguration he did the very unprecedented move of getting out of the limousine and walking down pennsylvania avenue uh with Barron and Melania. A lot of people were like, is he going to try to do that again? And I think the answer on that was going to be no. I don't think that the Secret Service would have allowed that at this point. The inauguration, while secure and they put as many Secret Service individuals on it as possible and as many resources throughout the federal government as they can on it, when you're exposed in a city There's only so much threat mitigation you can do, especially if it's a moving pathway. And I think that the Secret Service would not have allowed that to risk any sort of disruption or failure, again, based off the year they've had. But... Moving it indoors, I think, is a sigh of relief for those at the Secret Service that they can contain that ceremony 100% indoors. But I think we should go on to another call.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, continuing on. Let's go to Susan who's calling in Maryland, watching on YouTube. Susan, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I just called to thank ACLJ for taking the Amazon case for defaying Holocaust books. I am not Jewish. But I am more than honored to support your decision to represent this case. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 07 :
Susan, I'm glad you called in. And if you didn't see that, if you're your brand new watch the ACLJ, by the way, if you're brand new, I know half of you are. We also are not just a television show and not just a YouTube show or podcast. We are also a law firm, public interest law firm. where if you need us and at no cost, we will represent you. And what she was referring to is a case that we now have, or a client that we now have, it could turn into a case, where the person had created a book, which you can do, and uploaded it to Amazon and ordered it from Amazon to be delivered. And this book happened to be about her father, who was a Holocaust survivor. And when the books arrived... When you open them up, as you can see right now, they were all defaced. Every single copy of them defaced with anti-Semitic rhetoric. What about the blood of Palestine? Zionism kills Jews. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. All of those tropes written in all the books. What about this? What about that? And Amazon kind of said, well, there's nothing we can do. It's outside of our return policy. We're going to make sure that Amazon does respond to this. Everyone uses Amazon. OK, let's not live in a world where we don't. I know a lot of you are saying you wish you couldn't. Well, that's fine. But most people do have to use or do use Amazon's great service. Great what they do. However. They should not just roll over to anti-Semitism coming from inside of their own company. So we are going to respond to that aggressively, Will. We've told them there's a deadline. Now we've got two calls still on the hit. There's a deadline for them to respond because we know they have cameras. We know they have ways to find out who this individual is and to take care of the problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. I don't think that they have the cover of saying, ah, we didn't have enough data to be able to figure this out. They can figure out what you're thinking three weeks from now, what you may want to purchase. But I think it is also important to reiterate this case. I don't know that if the Biden administration had allowed the rampant anti-Semitism to just fester in this country over the past almost year and a half now, that it would have even been someone as brazen enough to think that they could deface every product that someone ordered with anti-semitic tropes which was a daughter writing a memoir about her father who was a holocaust survivor and they thought they could get away with it why do they think they could get away with it because they saw thousands of anti-semites across this country protesting the streets defacing public property not just someone's individual book but public landmarks and schools and buildings and not getting even a slap on the wrist that's on the hands of the biden administration to make someone think they could get away with this and to really instill fear and hatred against a individual
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. Let's go ahead and try to get as many calls as we can. Again, that's the work of the ACLJ, which you should support at ACLJ.org. Or if you're brand new, hit that subscribe button. You don't have to donate the first time here, but we encourage you if you are a frequent viewer of this or you like what we do and you want to make sure you're protected as well, ACLJ.org. Let's go ahead and take Ronald, who's calling from South Carolina, watching on Rumble, one of our favorite free speech platforms. Ronald, go ahead.
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Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, and you were correct when I had that thought as to you know, this was not the first time that has happened. And I actually remembered watching the Reagan inauguration when it was moved into a secure inside place because of the frigid temperatures. And I think it was more health than protection of the president. I think maybe you can probably use that as the underlying base for that. But I think it's just had to do to the fact of literally having citizens come all the way out there being exposed to frigid temperatures for a prolonged period of time. You know, that's what I think.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think absolutely. But of course, you had Ronald Reagan also had an attempted assassination just a few years before that was shot. That all happened. So we can't forget that there are some similarities here, if you will, in terms of the weather, the security and all of that. But Ronald, yeah, you're right. This isn't the first time this has happened. And there are other ways you can celebrate, and it seems like they are creating that option for the people that are going there live. They can attend. If you have a ticket, it looks like, I don't know all the details. I'm sure you'll get it. If you are attending, you can go to the Capital One Arena to watch, and President Trump will appear towards the end of that, I'm sure, after his inauguration. Quickly, Paul in Oklahoma, you are on the air as well. I know this is a little bit of a different topic, but we're running out of time. Go ahead.
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Yeah, I've always been a strong supporter of IDF and Israel's right to exist as people. And I was concerned with the hostage negotiation deal, but realizing that they've always played chess to our tic-tac-toe, I think they're going to do all right. And if they fail, well, God's going to have platform to demonstrate his love. the saving hand to all the nations.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Paul, I think that's true for a lot of people.
SPEAKER 04 :
We have to see what comes out of this. And there was a slight delay in the moving forward of that deal. The war cabinet did sign off on it today, and then it went to a vote for the full cabinet for them to move forward with this hostage deal. And as you can go back and watch yesterday's show or the day before, we even say this may not be the best deal on paper, but it's the deal that can be made now. It's the deal that can save lives. It's the deal that can be saved lives. And we know that also there is a president in the White House that will support Israel going forward if they want to wipe out Hamas, as we believe they should.
SPEAKER 07 :
We are seeing echoes of Ronald Reagan multiple times throughout this week, and whether that's the inauguration or whether that is the situation at hand in the Middle East. I want to encourage you and tell you to really consider supporting the work of the ACLJ and consider becoming an ACLJ champion. That's something that gives on a monthly recurring basis. Set it and forget it. Of course, you can cancel it anytime. Donations are tax deductible. So do that right now. Give monthly. Scan the QR code on your screen right now or just go to aclj.org and you can opt in. Of course, one-time gifts are very appreciated as well. And I want to thank everyone who's watching online. If you're brand new, hit that subscribe button. Or if you're watching on all the other platforms, just make sure that you are following us each and every day. We'll be back next week with full coverage of the inauguration and so much more. It's going to be a busy week next week. Go to aclj.org to help us be ready.
Jody also takes an in-depth look at California's ongoing wildfire crisis, critically analyzing the state's policy failures and the urgent need for reform. Joined by California Assemblyman Bill Saley, the conversation turns towards the state's preparation strategies, legislative sessions, and the contentious political landscape impacting disaster management. Highlighting the pressing need for unity and action, this segment emphasizes how essential it is for both voters and policymakers to address the root causes of such devastating fires. Tune in to understand the complex tapestry of current affairs from a biblical worldview with insights from FRC's David Claussen.
SPEAKER 01 :
From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Good afternoon. Welcome to this Friday edition of Washington Watch. I'm Jody Heiss, your Friday host, Senior Vice President here at the Family Research Council and President of FRC Action. Such an honor to have you joining us today. We've got a lot to cover. We're going to begin with this story. Just hours ago, Israel's full cabinet... for the hostage and ceasefire deal that the Israeli Security Cabinet gave their stamp of approval on earlier this morning. And I'll be getting the latest in just a moment when I'm joined by Chris Mitchell, the Middle East Bureau Chief for CBN News. And after the decisive victory of President Trump in November, interesting that California's governor, Gavin Newsom, called for a special legislative session to Trump-proof his state. Amazing. You would think that had he taken a little bit more time on fireproofing his state, perhaps the tragedy that we've been seeing unfolding in Los Angeles County could have been quite different. But is this just another example of leftist government officials driven by ideology and agendas rather than the needs of the people that they represent?
SPEAKER 11 :
While this wildfire is happening, and while people are trying to understand what's going on and are worried about disaster relief, worried about the ability to get homeowner's insurance, your chamber gaveled into a special legislative session to prepare for Donald Trump in a way that you are already able to do without a special legislative session. So, again, is now the right time for that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that was a reporter who's confronting a Democrat California Assembly Speaker, Robert Rivas, and that happened a little bit earlier this week. So what's going on now in the Golden State? Well, I'll be joined here a little bit later in the program by California State Assemblyman Bill Assele to discuss the latest. So you'll want to be sure to catch that. And speaking about being more focused on an agenda rather than the people, do you remember this ad from the Trump campaign?
SPEAKER 02 :
Kamala was the first to help pay for a prisoner's sex change. The power that I had, I used it in a way that was about pushing for the movement, frankly, and the agenda. Kamala's agenda is they, them, not you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, interestingly, there's a new poll that was released this week that is confirming just how instrumental the so-called culture war issues really were in Trump's election victory. And Terry Schilling of the American Principles Project will join me a little bit later in the program. to discuss that. And then to close out the program and to close out the week, I'll be joined by David Claussen for our Biblical Worldview segment and discuss with him the incoming administration as well as the outgoing administration. So as always, we've got a lot coming your way today, and if you happen to miss any portion of it, The website, of course, is TonyPerkins.com. And let me also just remind you of this Sunday, this coming Sunday, FRC is co-hosting an inauguration praise and prayer convocation. It's going to take place at the Greater New Hope Baptist Church in Washington, D.C. And for those of you who are not going to be there in person, I've got some really good news for you. You can join us online at The best way to do so is through our Stand Firm app. You can also follow it on Tony's YouTube channel. But if you do not have our app, friends, now's the time to get it so that you can have it wherever you go. And you can get the app wherever you typically get apps, or you can simply text the word APP to 67742. This is going to be a great time of worship and prayer for our nation, and we'd encourage you to come along and join us. All right, let's jump into the top story for today. Earlier this morning, Israel's security cabinet gave their approval on the hostage and ceasefire deal that negotiators had worked out between Jerusalem and Hamas. The deal was then advanced to the full Israeli cabinet, which just hours ago... So have we really reached the end of this 15-month war that started with Hamas' attack on Israel? Joining me now to discuss this is Chris Mitchell. He's the Middle East Bureau Chief for CBN News. Chris, as always, thank you for joining us on Washington Watch. Hope you're doing well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Doing well, Jody. Hope you are, too, and great to be with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's pretty exciting times right now for Israel and the world and for many here in the United States as well. So the vote was originally expected yesterday, as we all know, but it was delayed after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed that Hamas had sought out some late concessions. But both sides have now confirmed, as I understand, that the issues have been resolved. So what were those issues? Where do we stand now, Chris?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we don't know all the details of why the government delayed it for one day, but we do know that it likely, I believe on Sunday, some of the hostages will be released. There's certain to be very, very emotional scenes of families being reunited after maybe 470 days. I would say, Jodi, this is a very, very difficult time for Israel and the Jewish people. Excited, relieved that some of the hostages will be released after the horrific conditions have survived. but also gut-wrenching that they know other hostages do remain. And the deal as it's set up right now, Jody, with maybe about a thousand Palestinian prisoners, Many Israelis know that historically those prisoners go back to committing terror attacks. And so unless the deal doesn't go through and these Palestinian prisoners are not released, it's likely that other Israelis or Jews will be subject to terror attacks by these Palestinian prisoners. You can go back historically to 2011 when one IDF soldier, Gilad Shalit, was released for more than $1,000. Palestinian prisoners. And importantly, one of those prisoners was Yahya Sinwar, who eventually became the head of Hamas in Gaza, who masterminded the October 7 terror attacks, the worst since the Holocaust. So it's a very, very difficult time for Israelis to both relish and celebrate the return of some hostages, but also know that this is a very difficult deal to swallow, and they're looking forward to this is not necessarily the end of the war there in Gaza.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it is a bittersweet. I can't imagine what the emotions are going to be like with that reuniting with families that you described. As we all know, Senoir is gone. Israel has shellacked so much of the infrastructure of the terrorist Hamas and Iran. I mean, on and on and on we could go, Hezbollah. Are you saying that by the release of these terrorist prisoners that they've not learned a lesson? Or do you and others there in Israel fully anticipate another attack?
SPEAKER 06 :
Many people do believe after this 15-month war plus, it seems like Hamas hasn't changed its ideology, that it continues to do what it can, not only to survive, but also to reconstitute itself, to be able to commit another October 7th. You would think after being, as you said, shellacked in so many ways and so long, they would change maybe their ideology, but they haven't. And we understand that Hamas has been recruiting new members, even though The IDF has reportedly killed maybe 15,000 to 17,000 of Hamas members. Part of this deal also, Judy, is that maybe 600 trucks per day will be going into Gaza. What happens to those trucks is Hamas actually has been stealing many of those trucks. They sell them. That's how they get much of their funding right now. And so they will be able to be – continue to rearm and rebuild, given the details of this plan. And, you know, unbelievably, after so long and so much destruction inside Gaza and damage to Hamas, they're still there. And, you know, one of the two of the main goals of the war, right after October 7th, were Hamas would be defeated militarily, and also they wouldn't be able to govern Gaza after. Some people believe this deal puts those two goals in jeopardy. This ceasefire will last, I believe, for 42 days, and perhaps the war can begin after that. And we do have some reassuring statements by incoming National Security Advisor Mike Walz, who says part of the guarantee, in his words anyway, that Hamas won't be able to govern Gaza again. That's a bit reassuring, but some people are still concerned what this means for Hamas continuing to survive.
SPEAKER 08 :
What have others throughout the Middle East, other officials in particular, been saying about this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we know there's celebration in many parts, certainly in Gaza and Palestinians in Judea and Samaria, known as the West Bank. But also in Iran, they're celebrating and different parts of the Middle East. Qatar is celebrating that part of the mediators is Egypt as well. So this sends a signal to many in the Middle East that really Israel is weakened by this. They're claiming a victory despite all the damages and destruction that they've endured. Hamas is still claiming victory and committing themselves to continuing to come after. after the Jewish people and the state of Israel. They still, their agenda remains the same, Jody. They want to destroy Israel. They want to reclaim Jerusalem and they want to kill the Jews. And that's been part of their charter, part of their raison d'etre. And they pledged to continue that after the ceasefire.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. Yeah, it really is amazing. I read that the foreign minister of Israel, of Iran, is saying just what you said, that all of this really means that Israel has surrendered to all of this. I don't know how in the world they come to that conclusion, but assuming, and this is another thing, but assuming that Hamas holds to the agreement, which is not 100% guarantee, isn't this rolled out in phases? What are those phases that are involved in this?
SPEAKER 06 :
The first phase should be 33 hostages released over 42 days. And then the second phase, which is to be negotiated during phase number one, would be eventually the end of the war. That is what Hamas is hoping for during phases two and three. And that to many Israelis would be really disastrous. You know, Jody, there is one group there in Gaza, in Israel, that is, that are opposed to this agreement. And this group is family members of those IDF soldiers, men and women who have fallen in Gaza. And they believe that their sacrifice, they don't want it to be in vain. In fact, there's another group, some of them actually family members of hostages that don't want them, they don't want Israel to negotiate with Hamas. In fact, there's a story that we have heard, Jodi, of a father and son at a Shabbat dinner. And this is before October 7th. And the son said to his father, listen, if I am ever... uh kidnapped i don't want you to negotiate for my release and so that is sort of a perspective and a point of view that really hasn't got as much attention as many of the other uh groups that represent many of the hostage families so but overall um a gut-wrenching uh scenario for jews and uh israelis and really a time i think jody to be praying for the comfort of Israel, as it says in Isaiah chapter 40, comfort ye my people, but also praying for extraordinary wisdom for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and also President Trump as he comes in to take over in just a few days.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Chris Mitchell. Middle East Bureau Chief for CBN News, as always, an honor to have you on Washington Watch. Thank you so much. And we indeed will be praying and encouraging others to do the same. God bless you. All right, friends, coming up, we're going to be talking with the California Assemblyman about the latest on the California fire. So stay tuned. Much more coming your way.
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Good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I am your Friday host, Jody Heiss, and so glad to have you joining us today. Well, California's wildfire crisis continues to devastate the state there with at least 27 deaths now. Thousands of homes and businesses have been reduced to ash and more than 200,000 residents have been forced to evacuate. As firefighters battle the blazes across Los Angeles County, there's outrage that continues to mount over the state's preparedness and policy failures. Governor Gavin Newsom has declared a state of emergency, but critics argue that years of mismanagement, underfunded fire prevention efforts, and restrictions on environmental policies have left California vulnerable to these types of catastrophic events. As California grapples with mounting damages with some are saying could exceed $150 billion, voters and lawmakers alike are demanding accountability. They're demanding immediate reforms. So what needs to change to prevent disasters like this from becoming the new normal for California and for other states who follow these type of woke ideologies? Well, joining me now to discuss the latest is California Assemblyman Bill Saley, who has spoken out about the need for meaningful policy changes there in California. Assemblyman, welcome to Washington Watch. Great to have you. Thanks for having me. All right, well, you've called on Governor Newsom to convene a legislative session to overhaul wildfire prevention policies. Tell us a little bit about that. What do you have in mind?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the reason I called for it is because he convened a special session to quote-unquote Trump-proof the state of California. He wants... to hit the ground running on inauguration day and filed multiple lawsuits, frivolous lawsuits against the Trump administration. So I said, rather than doing that, why don't we have a special session to fireproof the state of California? Let's focus on responding and mitigating future wildfires. So under public pressure, he has caved and he has now called a special session on the wildfires. They're mostly, the Democrats intend to mostly focus on money and diverting millions, if not a billion dollars or more to respond to the current wildfire situation. Republicans will be pushing for policy changes in that special session.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. So it sounds like from a political perspective, there's going to be some fireworks as well. So what kind of specific changes, let's put it that way, would you like to see introduced?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, there's some changes we need to make in the law. And then a lot of the changes, honestly, has to happen in the governor's branch. He's got a lot of control as the executive over the state. But from a legislative perspective, we got to get the regulations out of the way so that way the firefighters can prepare the state for these wildfires. Specifically, we have controlled burns that we need to do across the state in the safe seasons when it's safe to do so. We need to clear all this brush. And the most efficient way to clear it is frankly to burn it. But because of decades of environmental regulations, we don't do that anymore. The firefighters have to comply with CEQA, which is our environmental policies here. They have to do environmental impact studies. So we have to clear all this regulatory burden so we can clear the brush that we need to do. We have to let the lumber industry go back into the wild lands and remove the dead trees. We need to upgrade and underground our power infrastructure. A lot of these fires get ignited by failing electrical infrastructure. So there's several things we can do to clear up the regulatory burdens so we can make the state more fireproof or at least fire resistant.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I recall when I was in Congress, I served, among other places, a natural resources committee. And what you were talking about right now, specifically, we dealt with on the federal level several times, and obviously nothing was ever done about it. So let me ask you this. It's my understanding. that California's wildfire prevention budget has drastically been reduced over recent years from some close to a billion dollars to somewhere in the ballpark of 200 million now. Has all this underfunding, do you think, contributed to the current crisis?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, the state, the size of California to spend $200 million on wildfire prevention is kind of laughable. We're spending over $5 billion a year just to give illegal immigrants health care in the state of California. We're going to spend about a billion dollars in the budget on this high speed train to nowhere. So it just shows you where the priorities of the Democrat Party are. They're not interested in the basics of governing. They're not interested in public safety, transportation. mitigating disasters. They like to play politics. They like to get involved in really things that the public doesn't want them involved in. We don't want the state involved in immigration policy, but that's what drives these people. They're very unserious people, and they're wholly incompetent, as you could see that playing out on the national stage right now with both Gavin Newsom and Mayor Karen Bass.
SPEAKER 08 :
We have all seen and heard, there have been many celebrities, it seems many, who have lost their homes during all of this, and of course they've been very outspoken. But what seems to be going underneath the radar largely are dozens and dozens of middle-class families, largely families of color that have lost their homes. Is there any effort specifically to help these communities that probably are perhaps more vulnerable?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they definitely are going to need a lot of help, but I think that's also upset some people in the state. We've had some really devastating fires in the past, just the last couple of years, and it didn't get the national attention that this fire got. So there is a little bit of that where now because celebrities are involved, it's become a bigger issue. Regardless, there are real victims of all socioeconomic class. The federal government is ultimately going to have to step in and help them. I fully support that and I fully support getting aid directly to the victims. But when it comes to reimbursing the state for its expenses, I think it's appropriate to attach some conditions to that because otherwise this is just going to continue the way it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. And listen, we've only got about a minute or so left, but you lawmakers have got a lot to deal with right now. Do you think that you will be able as lawmakers to rebuild the trust and demonstrate really some progress as it relates to wildfire prevention?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, when you say lawmakers, California is a supermajority Democrat state. So the Democrats have the governor's office. They've got the supermajority in the legislature. So Republicans really were not part of the equation here. We'd obviously love to change that at some point. But right now, the Democrats own this. And so we're just making sure the public understands who's been in charge and who's responsible for these policy failures.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you so much, California Assemblyman Bill Issaily. Wow, you've got your hands full. We deeply appreciate you taking your time to join us today on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 10 :
Appreciate you covering this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you. You bet. All right, friends, big question. Did cultural issues impact the presidential election? It's a big question that many people have been asking. In fact, many people said, stay away from the cultural issues. Well, American Principles Project President Terry Schilling is going to be joining me after the break to discuss that very thing. How critical were cultural issues in the presidential election? So don't go anywhere. We'll be back with much more on Washington Watch in just a moment.
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Good afternoon. Welcome back to this Friday edition of Washington Watch. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heiss, and so glad to have you on board with us. All right, as President-elect Donald Trump readies himself to retake the White House on Monday, the American Principles Project released a new poll earlier this week with confirmation about just how instrumental so-called culture war issues really were in Trump's election victory. So what are the takeaways of it all? Here now to talk about the poll is Terry Schilling, who is president of the American Principles Project. Terry, welcome to Washington Watch. Glad to have you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, thanks for having me, Congressman. I'm excited to be here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we're excited to have you too. And what an incredible outcome of this poll. So tell us about it. What did the poll find?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we did a post-election survey after November 5th. We wanted to measure how much of an impact the issue of transgenderism had on the election with voters and how it determined whether or not they would vote for President Trump or Kamala Harris. And what we found is that this was not just a small microcosm of an issue. This was a largely impactful issue. And depending on On the swing state that President Trump won, which he won all of them besides Minnesota, depending on the swing state, it shifted the electorate between 1.7% and 2.6%. To put that in perspective, this election was decided by just 2.2% of the vote in Pennsylvania. These were very tight margins, but this issue... where voters felt like Kamala Harris was much more concerned about cultural issues like transgenderism than people like them and their families. This was the largest issue of the election, and President Trump should get a lot of credit for putting this front and center and having this question be answered by the American people. It's really what led him to victory.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow, that is amazing. So tell me, going into this poll, I think whenever any of us are involved in a poll, there's a little bit of, you kind of guess what you think you might find, but you're not sure. That's why you put it out there and see. But were you surprised at all by the findings?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what I was surprised about, Congressman? I was not surprised that we found that this issue was important to voters and that it had an impact on their vote. What I was mostly surprised about is who this issue resonated with. This was not an issue that resonated or stood out as resonating with white voters or Christian voters. They were already on board. This issue resonated with non-white working class voters and a lot of suburban women. These are the key demographics that the Republican Party has been needing to win over for decades, right? Every election we've lost is because too many people in those subsets vote for the Democrats. And what we found that the thing that was most surprising to me was that these issues of cultural insanity from the Democrats were enough to bring enough voters from these core demographics that Republicans have been struggling with for decades. It was enough to bring those voters over to vote for Donald Trump, who, by the way, Congressman, we know, from experience that Donald Trump went through hell this past election. He had assassination attempts, but more so when it comes to voters and their opinion of him, he suffered, what, 89% negative coverage from the lamestream media and was up against a candidate that was getting into the low, I'm sorry, the mid to low 80s for approval. I'm sorry, not for approval, but for positive coverage by the lamestream media. This was a totally disparate race in terms of media coverage. And because of this culture war agenda that President Trump decided to make front and center, he's now president of the United States. These are a very powerful subset of issues, and the Democrats would be wise to start toning down their rhetoric and their policy goals around them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, so far, they're not. I mean, they're doubling down on everything so far. They are so entrenched in this radical left wing movement within the Democratic Party. It's hard for them to get away from it. But, you know, I think what surprised me with all of this is how often we were told, stay away from cultural issues, stay away from it. People don't want that. And yet it was just the opposite. And I think this ought to give encouragement for everyone to continue standing for these things, a common sense, standing against the insanity, as you said, because the majority of people agree with us on these things. So let me ask you this. This type of messaging, can this be successfully replicated in another non-Trump election, or is this unique for Trump?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it can be replicated anywhere. The biggest thing that we need to do, the thing that we need to replicate is we need to replicate candidates making these central to their campaigns, right? You hear all the time in this town, stay away from the culture, just like what you said, stay away from the culture war, it's a loser. You would never advise a candidate to stay away from an entire section of issues like fiscal issues, right? You would never tell a politician, hey, don't talk about economic and financial issues because those are losers. No, you would tell them, hey, on economic issues, talk about this. This is very... Helping families afford to have children and helping them afford schooling and all of this. This is very popular. Don't talk about this aspect of it. But instead, these establishment cronies who are all basically Democrats, they're all socially moderate people. It's really socially liberal and leftist. They all want to stay away from it because they don't understand how politics work. The American electorate is complicated and complex, right? You have a bunch of different votes, 320 million people in this country. We all care about different things. Different things motivate us in terms of our votes. Some voters only vote on whether or not a politician is going to protect the unborn. On the other hand, some people only vote if a politician is going to allow more babies to be killed. This country is diverse. It's different. We all care about different issues. And the culture war agenda is extremely exceptionally strong because it appeals to voters that we really need in order to win elections. And it's so powerful of an issue. It brings so many voters to the table for us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Terry Schilling, president of American Principles Project, thank you so much for leading the charge on this. And thank you for coming on Washington Watch to unfold it for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Anytime. I love coming on. Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 08 :
You bet. All right, friends, don't go anywhere. On the other side of the break, FRC's David Claussen will join me for this week's Biblical Worldview segment. So stay tuned.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, great to be with you, Jody. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, I'm going to start by giving you a loaded question, all right? So get ready. All right, here we're preparing for Monday's inauguration. But it's also an appropriate time to look back on the outgoing administration, the Biden administration. So on issues of concern to social conservatives, issues of concern to Christians, what are your reflections on President Biden's legacy?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, that is a big question, Jody. And I think when you think about President Biden's legacy on a whole host of issues, I think there's some things we could commend. And maybe I should start there. One thing that does come to mind would be after the October 7th attack, when President Biden went to Israel, first time an American president had stepped foot in Israel when they were under war. That was heroic. That was something to commend, something that made all Americans proud. I wanted to start there, though, Jody, because, frankly, everything else that comes to mind, unfortunately, is historically bad. This is a president who I remember in his inaugural address talked about the importance of unity and his desire to unify the country in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. And on issues that matter to social conservatives, and Jodi, we've talked about this, the issues that matter to social conservatives are issues that are related to the created order. These are not marginal tax rates. These are not ethanol tariffs. Things that matter to social conservatives relate to life and death, abortion, the value and dignity of human life, unborn children, things like male and female, the whole LGBT panoply of issues. And on those issues, Joe Biden has been the most aggressive proponent of a pro-abortion agenda and a pro-LGBT agenda and an anti-religious freedom agenda, Jody, that we have ever seen. whether it was the State Department flying rainbow flags at embassies around the world, including at our embassy in the Vatican, whether it was conditioning foreign aid to developing countries, that these countries, as a condition of American aid, had to get on board with pro-abortion, pro-LGBT policies. whether it was using the power of the administrative state to rewrite guidelines that affect the family, whether it was using the bully pulpit of the presidency to promote his abortion agenda. This was a historic administration on issues of social conservative that we care about, Jody, but for all the wrong reasons.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Wow. You know, I got to be honest with you. I hadn't thought about being the first president to go to Israel during a time of war, but that certainly is commendable. I heard someone the other day say the only other thing, they did not mention that. So in their words, the only thing that the Biden administration did is unify Republicans and unify conservatives. And I You know, from a Democrat perspective, that's not good news. But it really is. You know, it's amazing how God uses all things and works together for good. And even the fact that I think is not too far of a stretch to say Republicans are probably more unified on many, many issues now than they have been in years. Would you agree with that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I would agree. And again, I think it's important. You know, I'm here at the Family Research Council. We're just a couple blocks away from the Justice Department. And just think of how the Justice Department over these last couple of years was weaponized. Everyone knows about the law fair directed against President Trump personally. Now, with some of those cases, but even just think about the way the Justice Department has gone after pro-life activists. FBI agents have shown up at the homes of pro-life dads. We have a friend, Vanessa Savage, where the FBI went after her as she was a whistleblower for that case in Texas, dealing with underage kids illegally receiving so-called gender affirming care. And so, yes, Jody, I think Republicans and conservatives are more united than we've ever have been in large part because how overreaching the Biden administration was, you know, let's be honest in the 2020 election. Democrat primary, Joe Biden was not the most liberal candidate in that field that included people like Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar and others, Bernie Sanders. But when he took office, he took a hard tack to the left. And Jody, it started with his first decision. as the nominee for the Democrats, which was to choose Kamala Harris as his running mate, who was the most liberal senator in the United States Senate. So I do think by overreaching as much as the Biden-Harris administration did, it did serve to unify Republicans and conservatives.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think there's both a sense of unity and a sense of urgency. I mean, obviously, I don't want to get too far in the weeds here because I want to move on to some other stuff with you, David, but I think there's a sense of urgency that people have that now's the time to turn the ship around on a lot of issues. This is not a time simply of reprieve. This is a time that God has given us a moment to respond to this appropriate. It's like the mercy of God has been granted to this country for this moment, and we better steward it well. And that applies both in the halls of Congress as well as in the places of churches and Christians all across the country. This is a moment of mercy that all of us need to step up at the plate and not let go to waste.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I agree with that, Jody, and I'm actually encouraged by how Congress – obviously Congress took their seats a couple weeks ago, so they've already been quite active. But even earlier today, seeing the United States Senate invoke cloture on the Lake and Riley Act. President Trump ran on the immigration issue. That is an issue that's tearing apart communities all over this country. And to see, I think it was seven or eight Democrats cross the aisle with Republicans to pass this legislation that will toughen our immigration laws. Praise God to see legislation like that even before President Trump takes office. We know next week that the House and the Senate are going to take a vote on the Born Alive Survivor Protection Act. We need to be praying that legislation like that is approved. But this is a key opportunity we have. And Jody, I'll add, you know, the first hundred days are going to be busy. And wonder, you know, part of the way our system works, dozens of executive orders that Joe Biden signed can be undone with one stroke. of Donald Trump's pen, things like reinstating the Mexico City policy, making sure Title 10 funding doesn't go to abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood providers, rejoining the Geneva Consensus Declaration that says abortion is not a matter of human rights, so many other things. putting back into place safeguards to make sure that those chemical abortion pills are not so easily obtained by women looking to use them. And so I think I would advise Christians to pay attention to what's happening in Congress and to watch the White House because it is a tremendous opportunity to not just undo some of the bad policies and executive orders of the previous four years, but to actually advance the ball. And the election, Jody, frankly shows that I think a lot of our friends and neighbors are ready to move in a more conservative direction.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And this is a time, you know, it's still a country based upon we the people. And, you know, it is the voice of the people that ultimately matters. And we've got to embrace that and take responsibility of it. But at the end of the day, we also know that we can't fix all the problems in this country with just another piece of legislation or just throwing trillions of more dollars at the problem. It is ultimately a spiritual problem, and believers need to step up and pray like we've never prayed before and engage like never before. And you talk about a busy hundred days. I read somewhere today that there's going to be like a hundred executive orders on day one. What a way to start. I mean, that's starting with a With the speed of a bullet, it's only probably going to get faster from there. But if I can shift gears with you, David, a little bit, I know that you were recently at a rally outside the Supreme Court for a very important case that we've all been watching here at FRC, a case coming out of Texas dealing with pornography. Can you bring us up to date on what's happening with that law and what's going on with that case? Why don't you explain it a little bit for folks who may not be familiar with what we're talking about?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, really briefly. And FRC has been involved. We had Meg Kilgannon, our colleague, spoke at the rally. I brought our new intern class to the rally to kind of experience a D.C. rally outside the Supreme Court. But oral arguments were heard in a case that originates from Texas. So Texas legislators put a law in place to protect minor children just to simply require age verification for the pornography industry. This shouldn't be controversial. You know, the pornography industry, Jody, is a multibillion dollar industry. And tragically, studies show that the average age of exposure is around seven years of age. And there's just no safeguards. And so what Texas has done is to provide age verification to these, you know, pornography sites. So if you want to look at this filth, which no one should, but if you want to, you have to prove that you're an adult. And no surprise, the pornography industry has sued. And this case has gone all the way up to the Supreme Court. Based on oral arguments, Jody, even some of the more liberal justices, including Elena Kagan, for example, they didn't seem to buy the arguments that were being put forth by the porn lawyers. And so this is something we'll get a decision on early summer. But again, it's pretty simple, just this law that's requiring the pornography industry to make sure that the people that are accessing this filth are actually adults and that there's safeguards in place that minor children can't access this. Because at the rally, Jody, I'll tell you this. We heard from folks who got – kind of sucked in to looking at pornography unintentionally. They weren't even looking for it, and they got hooked on it. And that ended up, for some of them, being a gateway to being exploited, to getting plugged into human trafficking. So this is an example of why politics matters. Politics matters, Jody, because policy matters, and policy matters because people matter. And so we can be praying that in the months to come, the court will make a good decision on this case.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we'll certainly be keeping a pulse on that. I'm sure you'll be keeping us up to speed as that comes forward, too. Look, I know that you're actually going to be attending the inauguration, correct? Yes, sir. All right. Well, some good news. It's going to be indoors now. You're not going to be frozen. We won't come chip you out of an icicle somewhere when it's all said and done. But what are you hoping to hear from President Trump?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I obviously, like most Americans, would love to hear his vision for the next four years on things like the economy. You know, my wife and I are new homeowners and interest rates are pretty difficult. I'd love to hear his plans for the economy. I'd love to hear his vision for American foreign policy. We live in a dangerous world. I'd obviously love to hear about his plans to further protect the southern border. But as a social conservative, I would love to hear President-elect Trump's plans to protect life, to protect family, to protect our ability as Christians and people of faith to not only worship the Lord according to our conscience, but to order our lives in accordance with those deeply held beliefs. And so I think Americans and the tens of millions of Christians that voted for President Trump would love to hear, as part of this inaugural address, some of his plans for the American family. And that'll be something I'm definitely looking forward to hopefully hearing in the inaugural address.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and likewise with the first hundred days, what do you anticipate that may be priority? I know we talked about the border, but from a Christian perspective, some of the issues are important. What do you kind of see as priority there?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. First hundred days, obviously, in Congress, we'd love to see the Lincoln Riley Act approved finally in the Senate and then go when it goes back to the House. We would love to see born alive these babies who survived botched abortions. We would love to see them get the protections that they deserve from the executive order, executive branch, Jody. Reinstate Mexico City, make sure that our embassies are flying the American flag, not the rainbow flag. Make sure that Title 10 funding can't be used for abortion clinics to make sure all the federal rulemaking process actually understands the difference between a man and a woman. And just seeing the bully pulpit used to promote good and not vice. So I know it will be a busy 100 days, but I am hopeful, Jody, that the right people are in the right places, including many of these wonderful nominees that have been going through their confirmation hearings.
SPEAKER 08 :
David Claussen, director of FRC's Center for Biblical Worldview, always great to end the week with you putting all the headlines in a package for us to look at it from a biblical perspective. Thank you so much. Enjoy the inauguration. Glad you're not going to be frozen when it's all over. Thanks for joining us. All right, friends, that wraps up this week and this edition of Washington Watch. Hope you have a fantastic weekend. We'll be back on Monday.
SPEAKER 01 :
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