In this episode of The Kim Monson Show, we tackle pressing issues affecting our communities today. Kim opens with inspiring reflections and a potent quote from Medal of Honor recipient James B. Stockdale, provoking deep thoughts on personal sacrifice and leadership. Our insightful interview with Rich Wyatt delves into Jefferson County's school board elections. We analyze the critical role of these elections in educational and financial accountability, discussing the dilemmas of school safety funding and the influence of teachers' unions.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. Welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Friday, Producer Joe. Happy Friday, Kim. And we've got a jam-packed show planned for you, so fasten your seatbelts. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And our text line is 720-605-0647. I do want to hear from you. And you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. I am behind on emails again. I'm going to be working on that this weekend. But email me. I do really care about each and every one of you. As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff. That could be their rights, their property, their freedom, their livelihoods, their opportunities, their childhoods, or their lives. Enforced could be a weapon, but my, oh, my, we're seeing it with policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation and fear and coercion and government-induced inflation. And this World Economic Forum agenda, we saw it at the United Nations. Then we saw it – well, we saw it with the old Biden-Harris administration. And then we saw it with the globalist elites and coming down to this governor, this legislature, but we're seeing it now at local and county governments as well. And people are waking up and they're pushing back. So that's good. And these discussions happen. because of our sponsors. And I wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show and also Hooters restaurants. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster and in Parker or on Parker Road in Aurora and wonderful specials for lunch and happy hour. And so be sure and check that out as well. Our word of the day is repudiate. It's spelled R-E-P-U-D-I-A-T-E. It's a transitive verb. It could be to reject the validity or authority of. Number two, to reject emphatically as unfounded, untrue, or unjust. And number three, to refuse, to recognize, or to pay. And citizens are stepping up to repudiate. Many of these onerous and overreaching policies and ordinances and then regulations that we're seeing. So the word of the day is repudiate. Your challenge is to use it in a sentence today. And again, that's R-E-P-U-D-I-A-T-E. Our quote of the day, since it is Friday, we're going to the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. It's a very special place. And the Medal of Honor Portraits of Valor really is – it's changed my life. And just the reverence for these people, these men that had – had basically put it all on the line to protect others. And the Medal of Honor is the highest military award that can be awarded. And the center was co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, for actions that he took during the Vietnam War, and Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker. among other things. And our quote of the day is from James B. Stockdale, United States Navy Medal of Honor recipient, who was born in 1923. He died in 2005. And it is really a remarkable story. And he actually ran for vice president with Ross Perot. But this is his citation. as for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, while a senior naval officer in the prisoner of war camps of North Vietnam. Recognized by his captors as the leader in the prisoners of war's resistance to interrogation and in their refusal to participate In propaganda exploitation, Rear Admiral Stockdale was singled out for interrogation and attendant torture after he was detected in a covert communications attempt. sensing the start of another purge and aware that his earlier efforts at self self-disfiguration to dissuade his captors from exploiting him for propaganda purposes had resulted in cruel and agonizing punishment rear admiral stockdale resolved to make himself a symbol of resistance regardless of personal sacrifice He deliberately inflicted a near mortal wound to his person in order to convince his captors of his willingness to give up his life rather than to capitulate. He was subsequently discovered and revived by the North Vietnamese who, convinced of his indomitable spirit, abated in their employment of excessive harassment and torture toward all the prisoners of war. By his heroic actions, at great peril to himself, he earned the everlasting gratitude of his fellow prisoners and of his country. Rear Admiral Stockdale's valiant leadership and extraordinary courage in a hostile environment sustain and enhance the finest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service. And I'd recommend that you check out his life story. It's pretty interesting. But his quote that is on his portrait at the Center for American Values, and again, that website is AmericanValuesCenter.org, is the last part of Rudyard Kipling's poem, If. And this is James B. Stockdale's quote. He says, If you can fill all 60 seconds of the unforgiving minute, yours is the earth and everything that's in it. And even more, you'll be a man, my son. And that is the quote from Medal of Honor recipient James B. Stockdale. And Now, pleased to have on the line with me, Rich Wyatt. He is the chair of the Jefferson County GOP. Rich Wyatt, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim. Good morning, and how are you today?
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I am doing well. Glad to hear it. We are in election season. And these school board races are so important. And the teachers unions, who don't really care about teachers and don't really care about kids, they care about power, are putting money into some of these different races. But there's some wild stuff going on out in Jefferson County with some of these candidates. So tell us what's going on.
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Kim, it really fired off last night at the board meeting during the public comment section. As you know, I live in Evergreen, where the horrifying school shooting most recently happened. And there was about 13 armed R1 school district security people at the meeting last night, but they didn't have an armed person at Evergreen High School anymore because the school board decided they couldn't afford it. And the parents were enraged last night over this type of thing and offended, as I was. I'm a parent of a high school daughter still. And, you know, I've had – as a matter of fact, I have a daughter that's a schoolteacher here in Jefferson County. And it's quite disgusting what this school board has done.
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Can I just interject something here, Rich?
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Yes, yes.
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And that is, at least what I'm hearing you say, is there was no armed security person at Evergreen High School. But at the Jefferson County School Board meeting last night, there were 13 armed people. Am I getting that right? Yes.
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You're 100 percent right. And not only that, that they had that many people in this incident command response team, all these people there every single day prior to this, because I was there recently with another debacle that they tried to do against Terry Rescone, who's running for the school board office and is a great candidate. She's a veteran and she's a mom and was a foster mom. It's just fantastic. They have a guard there at that office protecting the adults, which are allowed to protect themselves every single day. But as you also know, we're in a $60 million budget deficit. We have, you know, just problem after problem. We have cases over and over again of misconduct caused by counselors. One of the counselors at Evergreen and at Green Mountain High School was most recently arrested for not just selling drugs but manufacturing them. He's a suspect. I don't think he has not been convicted yet. He's arrested. He's a suspect also in sexual abuse on a child and also prostitution, turning the children. This is the counselor. My daughter went to this counselor. Can you imagine? It's outrageous. Mary Parker is one of the people running against... Terry Rascone, and she's got to be destroyed. She just hates guns so much.
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Let's clarify. When you say destroyed, what you mean is that she needs to be voted out of office, yes?
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Absolutely. Yes, she needs to be taken out of office. And go do whatever she wants in her life. Enjoy her life. But in this election, she should lose by a landslide because if she even gets a vote, Whoever voted for her is just, they're not a parent. I don't understand what they could possibly be doing. I literally told her she should step down. And parents last night were so frustrated. And even before we got to this emotional issue of September 10th, the day that the beautiful Charlie Kirk was assassinated and this kid went crazy in the school, this school board had failed so miserably. near Jefferson County, and they shut the school down, and they're not allowed to sell the school because the color strands that donated the property so many years ago put it in the agreement when they donated it that it must always be a school. Why would you make a business decision to shut down a school that you can't sell?
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Interesting.
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So now it sits there, and we just get to use it as a beautiful empty building. And, you know, it's it's just this is the type of behavior and you hit it. It's the unions. OK, the unions back the candidate that has recently come out and it's been reported in the news that this guy was charged with some type of sexual assault on a minor stuff. You know, earlier in his life, he's a young guy. He's in his 20s, I understand. And he doesn't have children. Why is he running for the school board?
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Really? OK, so we're getting short on time here, Rich. So, yeah, I'd want to make a comment, though, because tomorrow is this no more King's Day event. And if you take a look at this, the fact that the Jefferson County School Board is protecting themselves with armed security personnel, that sounds to me like they're treating themselves like kings. I just wanted to make that point.
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Great point. Thank you so much. See, the thing is, it's just like every person, these leftists, they believe they're better than us. And what I said to him was, who are you to have armed guards here when you can protect yourself? But the children that are not allowed to protect themselves, the most vulnerable, the most people that should be protected in our community have no protections because they didn't want to spend the money on the budget. And folks, the union gave this kid that has this sexual assault possibly in his background $11,000. Wow. $11,000 to run. And so we've got to get these people out. Terry Rascone has a real good chance. Sam Minor is the other person you want to vote for. And don't vote for anybody else. Just vote for those two people if you're concerned about our children in Jefferson County and you're concerned about the budget. Listen, we need safety in these schools. We need some clear accountability, and we need some transparency because they are hiding behind everything and spending money like it's not theirs because it's not. And they don't care about us. They don't care about our children, and they don't care about the education. Our kids aren't even coming out educated enough in Jefferson County. They can't do math. They can't read. The rates, the levels of this stuff is absolutely skyrocketing. But we spend half a million dollars on a consultant firm to come tell us what we should be teaching the kids. Didn't these teachers go to college? I know I paid for my daughter to go to college, and it was a lot of money. And she doesn't have a loan. And if that didn't teach them, then why do we need a consulting firm for half a million? They just don't have any consideration of budget.
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So Rich Wyatt, again, who are you recommending that people vote for for Jefferson County School Board?
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In Jefferson County, while you have the opportunity to vote for more, please only vote for two. Vote for Gloria Terry Rascone.
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That's R-A-S-C-O-N, right?
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That's correct. Thank you, Kim. And she's a single mom of three adopted foster children. She was a foster mom 20 years in the military. Wonderful woman. And vote for Sam Minard. Those are the only two votes that you can possibly have there. And the reason we don't vote for the other is if we have to, if we get these two in and we have to recall any of these candidates, it's easier to do it with the less votes they have. So it's strategic and we have to be Careful and turn your ballots in right away. Get them filled out. Get them sent in. You have them. If you didn't get your ballot to your home, please go to the Jefferson County Election Office and get the ballot. And I also wanted to point out they tried to cheat against Terry. They put her name on the ballot wrong. We were forced to sue them. Kim. And in one day, Jefferson County Republicans turned that around and got them to put the name on the ballot. Right. But a lawsuit was required to be filed. Wow. People are just atrocious. The union, the school board is in there now. They got to go.
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So make a change, make a change. Rich Wyatt, thank you so much for sharing this information with us.
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Oh, thank you, Kim, for having us on, and you all have a blessed day.
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It is Friday, and welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website. We're getting closer and closer to Veterans Day, and a great way to honor veterans. Our veterans is to support the foundation. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have in studio with me my colleague, and she is our partnership liaison, and that is Teresa Irby. Teresa, it's great to have you here. It's great to be here, Kim. Good morning, everyone. And you can get more information. Let's see. I've got my notes here. Let's see. Well, it starts at Res Church on Crossroads Boulevard. Doors open at 430, and the program begins at 550. And so be sure and join me tomorrow evening. That should be great. Also, our voter's guide, which I spent a lot of time on that, is out. You can go to my website, KimMonson.com. There's a red ribbon at the top. Put in your name and your email, and we will answer. send you the link for the voter's guide, and hopefully that can be a good tool as you complete your ballot. On the line with me is Virginia Maka, and she is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. She understands the importance, as the founders did, of ownership of property, and our ownership of property is under assault. Virginia Maka, welcome to the show. Good morning. How are you, Kim? I am well. And you and I have had a lot of conversations, but this eminent domain thing is out of control.
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It is no different across the United States on every front, on every level, in every county, in every city. the amount of these cases are rising. But I particularly became interested in Colorado because you seem to be about a year and a half behind where Kansas was at this time, when I had no idea eminent domain was gonna be, really it's become my life work. I read the Supreme Court is hearing some big cases that will impact regulatory taking and there isn't anyone that is immune to it if you're happening to your neighbors that should be a lesson to you get involved uh albert county uh has I have been really watching that case.
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And this is where Excel is. They're using eminent domain to take farmers and ranchers land in Elbert County and in El Paso County. And, Virginia, you and I have talked about it. These county commissioners in both those counties voted no on the permit. And you said to me that they are basically holding the line. It is a big deal what they've done.
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It is a big deal because when they denied the permit and they are holding up the last leg of the transmission line, the pathway, a small group of people and these commissioners are holding back the surge of green energy jobs that are coming to Colorado in mass amounts, solar and wind and battery jobs. And along with those projects will be the giant data centers. They won't be the large ones that have Facebook or Google attached to their name. These are small, random data centers that are popping up all over Kansas counties. And it has been horrendous last week. One, finding out information of how they even can be doing this. And two, they are using abandoned gas wells as a power source to power these small data centers. So back to Albert County, remember Eastern Colorado has abandoned gas wells probably in the hundreds that we don't even know about. And so I look to this eminent domain case very seriously. If Colorado does not hold the line and these counties don't win and protect their land, eastern Colorado will look similar to a glass desert and it will really impact the agricultural heritage but really the economy in those counties. And it's right next to western Kansas, which is looking mostly like a big transmission graveyard. So it's really sad.
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So let's connect this dot for people that live in urban centers and they say, well, guys, it doesn't matter to me that they're taking this farm and ranch land. It does matter to people in the urban centers because we have taken for granted what farmers and ranchers have provided for us. And that is abundant and affordable food sources. And if we take that land out of production and and and and put it into unsustainable power sources, well, unreliable power sources, I should say, what we're going to see is our energy prices will continue to go up, but we're going to have higher and higher prices at the grocery store, and eventually we could have shortages, Virginia.
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In the Midwest, we're really spoiled financially. I would say, when it comes to farm to table. And sometimes we take that for granted that everybody has a garden. But it's the big farmers that bring in the produce to the grocery stores that feed the urban areas. And those centers, the urban centers, will be impacted the most. And they will rapidly be seeing shortages Now, in the agriculture that we protect out here in the rural areas, we choose that way of life, and we can sustain ourselves for a while. But in the end, everybody suffers paying higher prices for utilities. Businesses have to raise their prices because of that impact. We all suffer in... in some way or another. And then comes the water. You know, these data centers take giant amounts of water. And impacting our water systems, it will be a tragedy because water is in such limited supply. And public concern and health should come first. But in Albert County, I've been tracking the cases that have been in front of the Public Utility Commission, and those hearings are, to me, tending to be a little more positive. Excel sued both counties and took them to the PUC and asked that they expedite the cases against the county. Mm-hmm. And that was denied. Good.
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And let's talk about that strategy. Virginia, let's go to break. I'm talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. In studio with me is Teresa Irby, who is our partnership liaison. And these are such important discussions. We have them because of our sponsors. And Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins and Rosia Collins, with the Second Syndicate, are doing great work to... to work to protect our Second Amendment rights and make our schools safe again. And so appreciate them.
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Thank you so much for having me. To learn more, reach out to Teresa at 520-631-9243. Teresa would love to talk with you. Again, that number is 520-631-9243. Thank God it's...
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Indeed, it is Friday. And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. In studio with me is Teresa Irby. She is our partnership liaison. Great to have you. Oh, so good to be here. Good morning. And Virginia Maka is on the line. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And as she said, she's making it her life's work. regarding eminent domain and protecting property rights. And Virginia, this is foundational to our American idea to do this. And I'm a little behind you. Sometimes when I talk with you, it's like, okay, Virginia, I'm trying to follow you. You have learned so much about these issues. But this came in from one of our listeners. She said, Kim, they regulate to shut down natural gas wells. Then Xcel or whoever comes in and builds AI centers using these abandoned wells. There's some dots to connect there. I think she's right, Virginia.
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There is. Here we follow the rules. Everyone that is a gas producer follows the rules. When a well's so old, in Kansas it's 10 years. I'm not sure about Colorado. But after 10 years and the well doesn't produce, they ask the person that owns the well to plug it. The commission does. The regulators do. And all of a sudden, these abandoned wells started appearing housing data centers that look much like the containers that come across the ocean. And they're full of computers. And this, you know, this isn't just one case that I found. There's like 3,000. uh wells that have been targeted and probably permitted i'm not sure yet it's such a when you find a rock and turn it over be prepared because it's just a giant mess and i've called the regulators on this and so they are standing by their decision to allow these abandoned wells to be repurposed that's what they're calling it repurposed
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Well, and you had a story of you saw someone that had one of these little data centers running off of an abandoned gas well. And so you visited with this person, and his quality of life has totally changed, right? Yeah.
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His American dream is dwindling. I can see the toll taking, emotional toll and physical toll being taken on the family. We have gone to commission meetings. And that's the part that is really sad is that our system doesn't work all the time and we should be prepared to change it. And it doesn't seem like anybody's prepared to at least enforce some kind of noise. uh regulation he lives a hundred less than a hundred yards from a data center 24 7 7 days a week it never stops and it's a constant humming in the air and when you're on his front porch it it meters out at 85 decibels that's like air protection safety according to OSHA. That's the level of air protection required. So could you imagine living in that 24-7? It's really sad. And we're getting places, but it's a slow process. The county is implementing a resolution about noise, but they can't grandfather it in so that we could eliminate this data center. But this may help other counties to rush to the the implementation of resolutions on on noise and really i just feel sad for the family
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Yeah. And I was thinking on the way in, we were going to be talking about eminent domain. And there's this saying that when the bulldozers show up, it's too late. And when that little data center shows up, that's too late as well. That's why we have to be shedding light on this. Let's revisit Elbert County. and El Paso County, because you have been watching these hearings. And I did not realize this, but Excel had requested to expedite this decision regarding eminent domain. And to my knowledge, Excel's permit still is, their permit request is still not complete. But they're out there threatening eminent domain with these farmers and ranchers. And Do you think that they're trying to expedite this because they're trying to get this in before the tax credits run out? The Trump administration is taking away funding for a number of these and incentives for solar, industrial solar and wind projects. What do you think that strategy is, Virginia?
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Absolutely. It's about the transferable tax credits. But it's also about penalties for Excel if they are late. on delivery of the product. And I believe they're gonna pay penalties on this line if they don't complete. This is the last leg of this line. And when you want to expedite things, that means you are eliminating public hearings. People don't have time to roll out their defense. It's not a proper procedure. And I give kudos to the Public Utility Commission for denying the expediting of this case for the two counties. Now, on the property owners, they're trying to group them, and so they call it case management, and I haven't been able to really find a lot of cases that involve case management, but it must be similar to mediation. But think about this. the 13 owners that are going to face this on November 10th the case management hearing is going to be held each one of those owners their land all have different features all have they deliver different products to the owner whether it's agriculture or just grazing but each case should be separately heard because you're missing the fact that everybody has a different scenario and a different connection and it's an emotional connection to their land and they have the right for due process and when you lump people together you lose that
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Well, absolutely. And once again, XL is probably attempting to do this because they are trying to expedite all of this and just run over the property rights of these farmer and ranchers in Elbert and El Paso County. So what is next steps, Virginia? What should we be doing?
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Next steps would be Pay attention and get involved. Get involved in these cases. Go to your county. Go to your planning and zoning board. Just go to one meeting and see what they talk about. I have been astonished at the things that are coming in front of zoning and planning boards. And each county that has a comprehensive plan now has a planning and zoning administrator in charge. last week i got a call from a harvey county commissioner who is now facing fema and fema redoing the maps in harvey county and i mean i was shocked and so was she and these county commissioners don't know a lot about everything like fema and water and water management And neither do the planning and zoning administrators that she has under her. So she's asking me what should she do. And the first thing you do is get educated. So people need to educate themselves about their rights. The people that are going to go through the eminent domain process will face the government, actually condemning your land that's a very heart-wrenching hearing to go through that someone is actually condemning your land and the legal process goes to mediation and there there are just so many things that happen in in the process and really eliminate the conversation with the property owner. It's as if they're just going to take it and give you fair market value. So in Kansas, in fair market value, and I'm sure in Colorado it's the same, they find an appraiser and get an appraisal, a fair market. When you don't want to sell your land, there really isn't a fair market. Good point. And most of the time these fair market values underpriced the land and so it's very uh it's a very heart-wrenching thing and i've seen a lot of people going through it and it emotionally stifles you at almost speechless at a hearing and finding representation in these hearings is very difficult because lawyers don't want to uh deal with with going against these you know the big guys the big utilities so we we have a problem in finding legal counsel for these landowners we have probably two lawyers in the whole state that will even take cases for us so that that's an asset if you if you're in the legal profession i would be hanging out a shingle that says i represent only an eminent domain, and you probably have a great business.
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That's so interesting. I was talking with someone the other day, and they said that there is a firm, and you and I need to reach out to them, that they have decided to become an eminent domain firm. So we're going to have to talk about that. Virginia Maka, we're going to go to break. It always goes so quickly when Virginia's on because she is such a wealth of information. And all this happens because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, you'll want to reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Join me tomorrow evening up in Loveland at Res Church on Crossroads Boulevard for a gubernatorial candidate forum session. on the GOP side and doors open at 4 30 and program begins at 5 50 and so we'd love to have you join us on that and check out my voters guide which is at kim monson mon son.com and just click on the red ribbon at the top and we will put in your name your email and we will send you a link for the guide in studio with me is Teresa Irby she is our partnership liaison and one of our great sponsors is Mint Financial Strategies. And you and Jody are good friends.
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It really is about paying attention and becoming involved in your community. And like you said, go to those governor. The forum. Just become in the forum. It introduces you to candidates that have a good intention to serve and some of them don't. But ask them one question, where they stand on property rights, because that will really separate them out. A lot of people will give you lip service. But talk about land rights and election integrity. Those are hard questions for people to dodge. And people are very interested in getting candidates that really stand firm on property rights. The amount of eminent domain authority that's been given out by our government to for-profit companies is staggering. And these for-profit companies are being given the right to just take our land. And a lot of people are starting to wake up that I think it's going to be a trend and it's not going to stop. with all of the green energy and the AI and the data centers, the planning and zoning boards, get yourself appointed to one. Those are the decision makers. Those are the decision makers that pass those on to the commissioners of counties and give an up or a down vote and suggest that they pass it or they pass on it. And so... Those are the things that people can do. But really, the Constitution, if you start reading the Constitution, you will see everything that's playing out in today's world. And being versed in your rights and knowing if the county gives you an appraisal, hire a private firm to make sure that that is a just price. If you hear something, verify it. If you think there's something going on when you see survey crews, Ask them what they're doing. They give you a lot of information out in the field, more than I get paperwork.
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Well, and a couple of things I wanted to mention, that these planning and zoning commissions are appointed basically by your county commissioners, or if it's a city, would be by your mayor and your city council. And what I saw is that there are electeds that are really pushing and playing out the agenda of the World Economic Forum, which is totally against individual property rights. And so I had seen these electeds that are pushing that agenda and then they have the help of staff, which much of staff has gone to these universities in public administration and have been well-versed in the agenda of the World Economic Forum. But then many times staff may recommend people for these zoning and planning commissions. Again, commission means they're unelected and they're unaccountable. And it can get very cozy regarding agendas. And I'm not real comfortable with planning and zoning commissions. And then I remember years ago, and I don't know what happened with it, that there was actually a bill here in Colorado that had been proposed that these planning and zoning commissioners would get paid. And so here, I was very uncomfortable with that as well, Virginia, but I think it's important to understand that you do really need to watch these planning and zoning meetings.
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According to the Federal Energy Regulation Commission, who is trying to find a backstop, they call it a backstop, so they can jump over the eminent domain cases that have happened in the Supreme Court. They are focused on diverting the power from your commission now to... making your zoning and planning administrator and head of that planning and zoning board have more power in these permits. I'm watching that play out in Crawford County, Kansas as we speak. Today we will go to a commission meeting that commissioners are going to have to consider a city that has that wants to annex land that is miles from the city next to the highway for a 1700 acre solar farm and not all of it is in one piece these are just parcels and patchwork they think that they have the authority to give that solar company a permit a special use permit so now we have to go to the attorney general to get A an opinion on this special use permit and that has created all these other little cities looking at this like solar companies won't even come to the Commission and file. for that or go to the planning and zoning they'll just go to the cities and that's going to cause it create a mass amount of confusion so look for that to happen where they can't get past your commissioners in your counties and now they're going to try to subvert that power to an unelected committee of people that can be influenced by special interests more easily than your commissioners can because they're elected. And we get a lot of that confusion and then they just keep rolling right over the property owners. It's just a really sad thing to see commissioners be usurped of their power and they are the elected officials. So look for that to happen, Kim, because zoning and planning Boys will, they want to empower them more because they're more influential and and they can be influenced by special interests. So that is what I'm learning this week.
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Oh, my gosh, Virginia. And we're going to have you on once a month to give us updates on what you're doing because I just think it's so important. Your final thought, Virginia Maka, and again, thank you for standing for the land. And that website is stand4thelandkansas.com, stand4thelandkansas.com. Your final thought, Virginia. Thank you.
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My final thought is don't give up hope. Look for people that are near you, contiguous landowners. Go to them and talk to them about your concerns. Become a group. Groups have more power, but they also prop each other up with hope. And I believe in America that this thing will turn around when people realize how many rights we're losing every day, and it's got to stop somewhere. And so always have hope and pray for our country, but pray for our elected officials. Step up, run for office, and please go vote this election for your school board. It's a dire need to get good people on the school board with common sense approaches, and that's the answer.
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is to remember to vote. And if you, regarding school boards, there's a great tool, transformcolorado.org, and they did a survey of school board candidates throughout the state, and they'll have whether or not people answered the questions or not, and that's a great resource, transformcolorado.org. Virginia Maka, have a great day. We'll talk again soon. And thank you very much, Kim. Good day to your listeners. Okay, and our quote for the end of the show is from Thomas Paine. He said this, The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Tell them if I don't survive
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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indeed let's have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you're valued you have purpose today's drive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting it is friday producer joe Happy Friday, Kim. It's been a good week, and we've got another great week planned for you. Next week in studio with me is Teresa Irby. She is our partnership liaison at The Kim Monson Show. It's great to have you here. It's great to be here, Kim. Yeah, and if somebody is interested, first of all, appreciates what we do here. We're an independent voice. And if you strive for excellence in your business, which all of these sponsors that we have do, if those are two things that, and you'd like to grow your business, they should reach out to you. How can people reach you?
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So appreciate you immensely. And a great sponsor of the show is the Harris family. And they've been sponsors for a long time. And I thank them for their goal sponsorship of the show. Our word of the day is repudiate. It's spelled R-E-P-U-D-I-A-T-E. It's a transitive verb. And it could be to reject the validity or authority of. Number two, to reject emphatically or as unfounded, untrue or unjust. And number three, to refuse to recognize or pay. We need to repudiate what is happening in our communities regarding our property and our rights. And Virginia Maka had recommended it. And I'm going to do that this weekend. I'm going to read the Constitution. It's been a while. And I had on my list of things to do when I was up at Constitution Week to read my Constitution. And I'm going to do that.
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I think we all need to take a minute and read our Constitution and remember what this country was founded on.
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And our Constitution is shorter than maybe – I think our Constitution is shorter than Proposition LL and Proposition MM and the legislation that put those things on our ballot. And it's certainly more important. And what's wrong with that picture? Yeah. Exactly. So that's why you should check out our voters guide, which is at Kim Monson dot com. And we've taken no positions on those two. It's healthy school meals for children. Who could be against that? Right. Except if you look at it, there's a whole bunch of bureaucracies and PBIs that are going to be making decisions and money. And and then also looked at the five Denver bond questions in depth. And recommending no on those. And then in addition, I had as our source, the Colorado Municipal League, a number of different ballot questions for municipalities. And let's see. Oh, the other thing is, is we put a list of our 64 counties and the county clerk's phone numbers there. and recommended that if you want more information about a candidate, reach out to your county clerk. They should have their contact information. Do your due diligence on those candidates. And as Virginia said, one of the things that you ask is, where do you stand on property rights? Or school board members, where do you stand on parental rights? What about the whole transgender agenda? Although, Teresa, I saw a headline. This was from... The Western Journal. And it says the number of young Americans identifying as trans and queer is plummeting. The study likens it to a fading of a fashion or a trend. Now, this is exciting. However, think about the children that have been damaged because of this. That's the part that kills me. But at least we're making a change on that. So our quote for the day is from, it's Friday, so from our Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center's located in Pueblo. They're nonpolitical, nonpartisan, but they're focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And so they put together some great educational programs for K-12 kids as well as educators. On Monday, they will be having an On Values program presentation with norma donlon and then their beautiful portraits of valor of over 160 of our medal of honor recipients this quote is from james b stockdale united states navy medal of honor recipient born in 1923 died in 2005 he was a prisoner of war and what he did to to stand up and try to protect the other prisoners of war is just amazing. And his quote that is on his portrait of valor is the last sentence from If by Rudyard Kipling. And I, at some point in time next week, I'll share that whole poem with you. But he says this, if you can fill all 60 seconds of the unforgiving minute, yours is the earth and everything that's in it. And even more, you'll be a man, my son. And I just love that, Teresa.
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I love the Center for American Values. I could literally spend hours just standing and reading the quotes from all of the Medal of Honor recipients. If you've never been, you absolutely should make the trek down to Pueblo. It's absolutely... It's life-changing, in my opinion.
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It is life-changing.
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And beautiful and so well done. And on the darling river walk that they have down there that I didn't even know they had. But just standing and reading those quotes and really feeling humbled for the men and women who have served to give me my freedom.
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I totally agree. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. AmericanValueCenter.org. And on the line with me is Alicia Garcia. And she's one of the co-founders of the Second Syndicate. And she and Teddy Collins and Rosia Collins are... doing the work to shed light on what's happening regarding the assault upon our right to keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves and our families against bad actors. And they're preparing for another legislative session, which will begin right after the first of the year. And Alicia has been down there a lot at the State House testifying. But Alicia, I was thinking about you today and And this work that you're doing and you've got a drawing for a firearm. But I think we need to make a movement. Massa, make our schools safe again. What do you think, Alicia Garcia? I love that idea, Kim. And we hear the term, we want to make our schools safer. And I thought, we don't want to make our schools safer. We want to make them safe again. And you're doing a program right now. Tell us about that. And people can get entered in a drawing by supporting you. So tell us a little bit about that.
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Yes. So I just watched a video last night that I'm going to share on my social medias. of the one i believe if she's a superintendent or somebody for the evergreen high school and what had happened there on the same day that charlie kirk was assassinated was just awful and so you know we're seeing that these schools are being attacked by these ideologies by these by these children that are committing acts of violence that are just children themselves they need rehabilitation they need They need leadership and they need adults and they need love and they need self-confidence and they need to understand de-escalation and conflict resolution, all these other things. and what we what we sat around and said is you know we don't want to wait until our government is going to find solutions for us when our children are in such desperate need of these things we're going to do what we can as a second amendment organization to intervene and define solutions and be solution oriented so we said what we're going to do is we are going to start raising money That way we can start paying the tuition for any educator or staffer that wants to be armed in schools. Now, a lot of people are unaware that this law exists, that these teachers and these staffers are more than welcome to be armed so they can exercise their right to protect our children. But the tuition is $1,000. And we said, okay, how do we support Faster Colorado, which is the organization that they would attend in order to get that training, as well as these educators and staffers that want to be armed? We said, let's raise the money, let's see what we can do to offset the cost of the tuition, pay that for them, as well as see what we can do as gun shop owners, as us being involved in the CFSLA, as my business partners being Spartan Defense, that we can find the resources that these people educators and staffers need in order to take that burden of the cost away from them and supply them with the solutions. So that's exactly what we're doing. And every donation at thesecondsyndicate.com, the2ndsyndicate.com, they can go there. They can donate to arm the educators. And every donation of $5 or more enters you in to win a custom engraved Springfield 1911 that was generously donated by the damage factory.
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So if somebody gave $100, would they be entered 20 times? Yep. Oh, okay. Okay, well, I would, so where can people do this again, Alicia Garcia?
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Yeah, they can go to Give, Send, Go and go to Operation Education. They can also go to our website, the2ndsyndicate.com, and they can find the link to donate there as well. But if they can't find it, you tell them to give me a call. They can find me at all my socials on the Internet. You can always find me as the Boomstick Babe or at Boomstick Babe on all platforms. You can also find us at The Second Syndicate on all platforms as well.
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Okay. And then also, just mention your business as well, what you do with Concealed Carry.
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Oh, wonderful. So what I do is I run a business with my friend Mark Schneider. It is concealed carry class Denver.com. And what we do is we arm and educate everybody, not only for renewal for concealed carry for basic concealed carry defensive pistol. We do de-escalation. I teach, uh, OC spray, which is pepper spray as well. I host those types of classes for, uh, you know, a little bit lesser than lethal than, um, You know, some people out there aren't ready to commit to carrying a gun every day, but they should be exercising their right to, you know, situational awareness and preparing for that. So I offer those services as well. And people can find that where? At the, it's concealedcarryclassdenver.com or also on Eventbrite. They can find concealed carry class Denver on Eventbrite and book their class. And I am the Thornton location. Okay. Thank you so much, Alicia Garcia. We will talk with you next week.
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There's so much noise coming at us. Sometimes it is difficult to make sense of it all. How can you sift through the clamor for your attention and get to the truth? The Kim Monson Show is here to help. Kim searches for truth and clarity by examining issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Tune in to the Kim Monson Show each weekday, 6 to 8 a.m. with encores 1 to 2 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m. on KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. The KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa. Play KLZ. Shows can also be found at KimMonson.com, Spotify, and iTunes. It's Friday!
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It is Friday, and welcome back. And a question coming in on the text line, 720-605-0647, is this gubernatorial Northern Colorado Republican Governor Forum tomorrow, Saturday, October 18th, at Res Church, 6502 East Crossroads Boulevard in Loveland. Doors open at 430, Program 550. I will be moderating it. Fifteen of the 18 GOP candidates will be there. It will be live streamed on the YouTube channel Better Nate Than Never, BNTN. And also it will be archived there as well. So I wanted to get back with you on that. In studio with me is Teresa Irby. She is our partnership liaison. Are you having a ball?
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I'm having such a ball. Happy Friday, everyone.
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And on the line is my friend Dana Bush. And she is a citizen watchdog. And we've got a success story that we want to share. Dana Bush, welcome to the show. Hi, Kim. Thank you for having me again. And let's set this up. You live in North Cherry Creek. You pay pretty healthy property taxes already in North Cherry Creek, as well as the residents do there. And there was a proposal for a GID. a general improvement district. And as you studied it, and some of your other neighbors, you saw danger, danger, right? Yes, that's absolutely correct.
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And so, and I think a lot of it too, Kim, is a combination of things. We really felt blindsided because it seemed to have appeared from nowhere. And so when we started asking questions of our council person, the response was, well, you all wanted this. You wanted these services. And for those in your audience who don't know what a get is, a get is supposed to be initiated and started by the taxpaying citizens in a specified area because they are agreeing to impose a self-tax on themselves to cover services that supposedly your government wouldn't provide and really be managed by your government. And so we were like, we have not asked for services. We live in a beautiful area. We do not need these. And then we just kept getting pushbacks and no answers and no responses. So that is really what started this rolling.
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Well, and the GID was, so you interfaced with your Denver City Council woman. And did you feel that you were listened to?
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No. And that was part of what continued to lead to the anger. Because, again, if you look at what supposedly are the requirements on the city's website, which are really not spelled out to the degree they should be, she couldn't come to us and say, well, you know, here's, you know, here are all the people I talked to. Here's the meetings we had. They kept referring to the 2012 Cherry Creek area plan. During that time, most of Denver was going through upzoning and changing. But as we dug into the Cherry Creek area plan, we didn't see the mention of a GID. Then we were discovering that our council person, the consultant, and some other individuals kind of in our neighborhood had been meeting with all the business owners and developers all around this good, which made no sense to us, too. If this is a resident-led and you're charging us taxes for services, why are you not coming to us first? So the more we continued to dig into this, the more we had questions and concerns about the implications. There were a couple of postcards that were mailed to people supposedly asking if we wanted services. I received these postcards. Several people didn't even remember getting a postcard. But it was a very disingenuous process in that it didn't flatly come out and say, We are proposing a tax increase that you all will be paying for, and that would be how we would pay for the services that you can then give us your opinion on in this survey. So it was the reverse. It was, oh, here are all these things. Would you like landscaping? Would you like lighting? Would you like security? So the manipulative way that they presented this in the beginning, the fact that they misrepresented the area, they had completely misrepresented. lied, in my opinion, about excluding an area they were soliciting information from. There was no true verification process to take this survey. And so when they started presenting data from this to us, we had a lot of questions and concerns, too, because of how they went about it, how few people knew about it, the manipulation of the data in the survey. So, like, this whole thing is... is just very, very suspect.
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So you sprung into action, Dana. Tell us what that process was like.
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Yeah. So myself, and uh one of our the other neighbors uh in the area in particular wayne knew who was uh head of our neighborhood association for years in our city council person after our meeting neighborhood meeting where they initially presented this where we had 120 people very upset about this wayne and i and another individual got together and we said, we need to have a meeting. So we sat down with our council person, which is Amanda Sawyer, who is not running again, by the way. So that was interesting to us. And Jamie Gillis, a consultant who has done several of these around the city, which was another concern to us, that these are popping up everywhere, at my house in early June to try and get answers and ask questions And it was, in a lot of ways, a very unproductive meeting because we were told that everything that we were sharing with people was a lie, it was misinformation, that everyone wants this, and that we're just moving forward. So from there, we launched a website. We started getting media coverage. We had a handful of great volunteers in the neighborhood who started doing door knocking. We held in-person events to educate people. And so the movement just massively grew. We encouraged individuals to write letters asking questions, expressing concerns to Amanda, to Jamie, and to, quite frankly, our neighborhood association, who did not really get behind us to be in all candidness. They claimed that they needed to remain neutral. Most of us felt it didn't come across that way. And after the first manipulated survey, if you finally got to the last question, which was do you want a GID or not, over 65% in our residential area, which is just one section of the GID, said we didn't want this. So when we have information like that and you're starting to continue to push us down the track and force us into more surveys and not be supported, it just fueled that fire, just fueled the fire.
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And so you had success. We're going to keep that as our cliffhanger on what happened with that Dana Bush. And it is amazing. People Got educated, they showed up, and we've got a good result on this. We have these discussions, and I actually saw her yesterday, a good friend of mine, Karen Levine, and reached out to her for everything residential real estate.
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On the line with us is Dana Bush, my friend. We're talking about a proposed GID, a general improvement district, that they got stopped in North Cherry Creek. I went to one of their planning meetings, and they had gone through the documents. They had done the research. And there was one slide that just took my breath away, Dana Bush, and I took a picture of it. Yeah. And it was the power of a GID could include to levy and collect taxes based on value, to have perpetual existence, to borrow money and incur debt, to provide services outside the boundaries of the district, to exercise the power of eminent domain, to fix rates, tolls, or charges for services or facilities furnished by the district. The GID would be governed by an unelected
SPEAKER 09 :
board that would be appointed was it by the mayor or the city council who was it who would it initial and yeah initially um by the mayor and again they wanted to argue well that's really just a you know a formality and uh but you know in essence we would have at best had two individuals from our area because this is part of a much larger get in fact When we did the research, you know, they claim that ours would have had roughly about 9,200 people that could have voted to pass this. The average GID in the country is around 2,000 to 3,000 people. And, you know, this gets back to it would have only taken 200 signatures out of over 9,200 to get this on the ballot.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then you would have seen big money that would have been out there trying to encourage people to vote for it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And then, you know, individuals. who live in this area own a property but are not registered to vote at their house, they're registered at a home they have somewhere else, would not have been able to vote on this self-imposed tax. Renters in the area who are registered to vote at their rental property would be able to vote. I mean, it just went on and on with the questions, with the concerns. You know, the city council also had approved for this consultant if she had been able to push this all the way through, to have earned up to $149,000 just on our GID, within the opportunity to be a part of it down the road. A couple of GIDs that Jamie Gillis had already set up, a couple of them are bringing in and hiring a six-figure out-of-state consultant, to manage, because that was our other, again, big concern is, you know, now they're going to have to have this big management process. It was lumping us in a much larger area. I mean, there were so many things that made us upset and concerned. And again, every time we tried to have a conversation, it was, you're lying, you're misinforming people, you all wanted this, and we're going to keep pushing this. And so it just, You know, we just kept upping the ante then with our approach to educating and stopping this. I mean, even as late as mid-September, there are people in the neighborhood that didn't even know this was going on, had never even heard of this, had never seen anything about it. So there were so many things that were completely unprofessional about and not valid about how this was done.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so you ended up yard signs. What was the yard sign? What was that?
SPEAKER 09 :
um yet um get rid of the gid and and so uh you know then we had some crazy guy from congress park you know stealing our yard signs because he felt it violated violated where the yard signs go um i mean we had some crazy interesting things but yeah we pro we had i think a little over 300 yard signs spread throughout the cherry creek north residential area And then we started a single survey door-knocking education campaign that basically people were signing on to this if they were opposed to the formation of a GID in the neighborhood. They did not want it. And then we would have lawn chairs set up on key corners with these surveys. So by the time we had our meeting that you attended, Kim, on the 16th, we had close to 1,500 people. opposition signatures in our area to take to that meeting to say, look, you're not listening to us. And we do not want this, and why are you continuing to push this forward?
SPEAKER 04 :
So at that meeting, I had shared at a previous meeting that what you're probably going to see when you get to this meeting, that was at Bromwell Elementary, is the use of the Delphi technique, where basically they have people sit at different tables, at different – particular issues. There's a facilitator that will then, unbeknownst to everyone, in the guise of hearing your voices, will guide the conversation to get to a consensus of what people would want. The first time I had a was involved with the delphi technique i walked out of there and i'm like wait a minute i just i just agreed to something that i i don't i don't even want and so i had cautioned everyone and said you might want to have a table for just no well when i got to that meeting people were whipped whipped up it was like they were mad because i think that they felt their voices weren't heard and it was almost like pitchforks there dana bush
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. Well, and so the night before our meeting, they met with another one of the subsections of the GID. So we sent people to that. And of course, there was no verification process to make sure that people attending that meeting were supposed to be there. And we had already been developing our no strategy. It's no to everything. The answer out of your mouth is no. So then when we knew how they were going about that with what looked like a kindergarten play area with colored maps and colored stickers and different focus groups, we educated people early that morning who we knew were in working groups or who were attending the meeting to have a strategy. We made sure with our core team that we had someone, at least one or two people at each of those tables ahead of time But as you know, Kim, because the whole meeting didn't get very far. In fact, I was outside waiting for another media person to come. And I even missed the hubbub because, as you know, within the first 15 minutes of our meeting, we shut that thing down.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was amazing. And the consultant... Well, the first thing is, I recall this, is the main facilitator introduced himself. He said, I'm your neighbor, and you can look at me as Mr. Switzerland. And somebody goes, Boo! I'm like, oh, no. And then the consultant, you know, everybody's getting pretty frustrated because they're like, no, no, no. And he said something so interesting. He said, who's in favor of the GID here? And maybe seven people raised their hand. And somebody said, well, ask who's not in favor of this. And he said, well, there are people in this room that may not know that they're in favor of it yet. Well, that... That certainly got a lot of comments from the crowd. And then into the meeting, the consultant walks out and trying to quiet everybody down. And somebody yells out, no money for consultants. And it was something to behold, Dana Bush.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. Well, and I would say we had somewhere between 200 and 250 people show up at that meeting. And again, we encouraged everyone. So, you know, we would use our website to do strategic email blasts out to people of upcoming in-person meetings we would have, important things they needed to know about. It was a repository for all of our news stories, our interviews. for the analysis that we did, the meeting that you were referencing at the Down syndrome, which was a week before the meeting on the 16th, we had that whole slideshow. And we also provided a list of hyperlinks to every single document or piece of information to be presented because we didn't want to also come across as the, unfortunately, the consultant and our council person did, where they had no facts, they had no information to give us where we could go and understand. And so we wanted to make sure that And everything we put out there, people could go do as deep a dive as they wanted to. But, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it was brilliant, Dana Bush. And we're just about out of time. But ultimately, you had success. And that night, within about 15 minutes, I had a friend that was going to join me, another media person. And I called her. I said, it's over. The consultant said, okay. And she said, North Cherry Creek's out of the gid. And I was stunned.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then, you know, within a couple days, they canceled the entire GID, which doesn't surprise us because, again, we had.
SPEAKER 04 :
questions and concerns too around you know our money really just staying for our section uh because we were we were clearly the um the biggest financial uh donor yeah the estimates were 57 of the money was coming from all of you but you only had 14 of representation on this unelected board and so you you had success on this but you're not uh you're not uh falling asleep on this you are now Very vigilant on all of this, Dana Bush. Your final thought, and congratulations to you and your team.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you. Thank you. I guess, you know, I think the biggest takeaway I have, I think especially in the time we're in and the stories that you present, Kim, is that, you know, we still do have a voice as much as so many of us feel defeated and at the will of, you know, government choices, right? But you need to get enough people who are going to actually take action, get organized, and be strategic. And if you do, there is the potential to have success, and there is the potential to have your voices heard. and to stop some of the insanity. And so I hope that this story is something that people can take away from that. Our website is still up and active, which is stop the G-I-D-N-C-C-N.com. And we're looking at what does that transition into? Because we absolutely feel that As much as we have this success here, that... You're going to help people throughout the country on this, Dana Bush.
SPEAKER 04 :
You are going to help people. Hey, Dana Bush, thank you so much for sharing the story, and we'll stay in touch. All right. Thanks for having me, Kim. Have a great weekend. You as well. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And Ben's Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling can help you manage your own personal climate and change your own personal climate to be cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
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Definitely reach out to Teresa if you want to make sure that we have a voice regarding these important issues and want to grow your business. We'd love to chat with you. Tomorrow evening, Saturday, October 18th, I will be moderating the Northern Colorado Republican Governor Forum. Fifteen of the 18 candidates that are running on the GOP side will be there. Doors open at 4.30. Program begins at 5.50. More information, you can go to, let's see, info at nocorwrapup.com. And so be sure and check that out. Our voter's guide is on my website. You can go to KimMonson.com, click on the red ribbon at the top, and you can see the analysis that I've done on many of the issues that will be on some of these ballots here. And speaking of elections, I am so pleased to have on the line with me Dr. Douglas Frank. He is a world-renowned physicist with 60 peer-reviewed scientific publications in the world's leading scientific journals. And his Ph.D. is in one of those easy things, surface electroanalytical chemistry. I can't even hardly say it, which combines chemistry, physics and electronics and advanced computing and mathematics. And he's been doing a lot in this election integrity arena. Dr. Douglas Frank, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I thank you, Kim. Thanks for having me. I heard you say a minute ago that you were moderating the government debate in Colorado yesterday. I'm going to be moderating the governor's debate in California next month. So we're similar kind of people.
SPEAKER 04 :
That we are. And also on the line with me, and I had the great honor to meet her when I was out in Monta Vista regarding property rights, Josh Lowenstein's whole group there. And that's Carol Rickenbaugh. She has over 30 years of experience in the long-term care industry, but she's become very actively involved in politics, running for office, speaking out, and encouraging others to do the same. She now owns and operates the only Trump store in Colorado located in Monta Vista. Carol Rickenbaugh, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's nice to be back. It's good to have you as well. Carol, let's start with you because Dr. Frank will be in Colorado again soon. And that's why it's late breaking that we got you guys on the show. So tell us what people need to know.
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, people need to know that while you're going to all that work running for office and you're doing the debate, moderating the debates and talking to all these candidates, you We, the people, need to know that we can trust when we cast our vote that we are actually electing the people that we want, that our vote is actually counting. If we go another four years in the state of Colorado with what we've already had for the last many years, We were done and we all know it. We all know that we're going to be done. So we've got to do something about our election or a lot of this effort that we do is so futile.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, Dr. Douglas Frank, what can we do?
SPEAKER 17 :
I've been going around these counties in the valley. They're targeted. We've targeted them on purpose because these small counties think their elections are OK because they have good people. They have good leadership. They have good sheriffs and conservative, honest people and that they think everything's OK. But they're wrong. And so what I've been doing is coming in and showing them the data for their own county. I show them their own voter rolls and show how their voter rolls are being manipulated. And they don't even realize that, that their own clerks don't even recognize that this is happening. So I show them that that's happening. So the first thing is to wake up and to recognize that you've lost control of your elections. And then the second thing is that I show them how to organize. I heard your previous guest. You get organized and you activate and you can take back local control of your elections. But it doesn't happen with one person standing on the rooftops yelling. It doesn't happen when you try to do a court case. It happens when the people, local people, get together, organize and strategically take back control. And I teach something I call the seven steps. That is a strategy I've refined all over the country. I've been doing this since December of 2020, teaching teams how to take back local control. And I think Colorado is a perfect opportunity for the strategy. I'm really looking forward to the next several months working with the people here. I don't charge anything for my work, so I'm not selling anything. I'm just coming in, teaching you how to organize and how to reclaim control of your elections.
SPEAKER 04 :
And when you talk about the counties that you had been looking at, these small counties, you live in California, yes? Is that right? Is that where?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I'm in Ohio, but I've done a ton of work in California.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So is that where you have recently been training people then?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oregon, Wisconsin, Maine, Oklahoma, Missouri. uh and uh lots in northern california in fact people have probably heard about what's going on in shasta county we've taken over uh control of our elections there away from the state the state's going crazy they hate us every time we make pro every time we make progress there in shasta county 70 000 voters there every time we make progress sacramento convenes another legislative meeting where they pass laws to try to stop the other counties we've also taken back control in huntington beach southern california uh 400 000 people there and how did we do that well we read our own charter and the charter for the county and discovered that it's right in the charter that they have the right to run their own elections so they we've set that all up and then what happened is the state sued them but we survived and it's a wonderful uh time because All the years of experience and learning that we've gained over the last three or four years doing this battle are now we can apply it quickly and efficiently county by county. But we've learned that this County by county, individual fight is not the means to succeed. The way to succeed, get multiple counties to link elbows and act together, especially incorporating the sheriffs. The sheriffs have the ability to interpose on behalf of a county. All you have to do is prove that there's fraud in a county and that every case of fraud is disenfranchising one of the citizens from their rights. So it's a constitutional fight. And the sheriff can interpose and defend the county. And so you get the county or we're not asking the sheriff to stand. We're asking the people to stand. And then the sheriff interposes. It's a great strategy, especially some of these beautiful small counties have got amazing Republican Party people. And most of these big counties that go to the Republican Party opposes election reform, which I think is surprising to people. So it's nice to come to these small red counties where we've got good sheriffs, good party, good people, and get them all organized.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. We've only got about a minute left. And, Carol, I met you, Josh Lowenstein, I wanted to mention his organization, Our American Lands. Dr. Frank is coming to Colorado, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
yes yeah we're he's here he's um right now we're doing canada county rio grande county and swatch county and he's running our other numbers for our mineral alamosa and so he's doing the whole san luis valley for us and so uh and as americans democrat republican we're out we're going to be able to rise up and show our clerks that they're they're not counting the votes And they're not in control.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And Carol, you and I need to talk. Within the last two days, ballots have gone out in Colorado. And I've had two different people reach out and say, hey, I know somebody. They got their ballot where they're registered. They own property in a different state. and they also got ballots from those counties. They had not done anything to make that happen. So you and I are going to have to talk with Dr. Frank about that as well. So Dr. Frank, we ended up, this was late breaking to get you on and we sandwiched you in here, but thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thanks for having me. I'm delighted to be here and I'm going to be coming back. So maybe next time we'll have a little more time together.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sounds like a plan. And Carol Rickenbaugh, thank you for the great work that you're doing as well. God bless you, Kim. And Teresa, it's great having you in studio.
SPEAKER 22 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
And our quote for the end of the show is Thomas Paine, who says, The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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In this episode, we delve into the controversial world of political double standards and hypocrisy, highlighting the recent condemnation of John Bolton for actions eerily similar to those he criticized in others. We explore the psychology behind public figures who, despite being aware of their questionable actions, continue to project a facade of moral authority. This discussion invites listeners to consider the impact of narcissism and self-preservation in political discourse. Additionally, we shed light on the vibrant dynamics of the New York City debate scene, where Curtis Sliwa's stance on ICE cooperation has caused a stir. As we dissect the political banter and the strategies deployed, the episode provides a thought-provoking exploration of how political narratives are crafted and consumed in today's media landscape.
SPEAKER 02 :
All of the videos of John Bolton condemning Trump for classified information, for classified – they've got to get him. Oh, this is very serious.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's career-ending.
SPEAKER 02 :
They've got – Jack Smith's got to act quickly. I mean, this is what I don't understand. You don't have to go on TV. You don't have to give interviews. If you're doing what you're accusing – president trump of doing wouldn't you just lay low mark what's wrong with these people of course you would except most people don't ever expect to be caught But they've got to know in the back of their head, how do they sleep at night? How do you sleep knowing I'm going to go on MSNBC and NBC and ABC? I'm going to blast Trump for doing exactly now. And look, even Bolton's supporters are saying this looks really bad for him. Whatever he did with his AOL account, I didn't know anybody had AOL accounts anymore. I thought it was in 1989. You've got mail, you know. Holy crap. But he's using his AOL accounts. He's sharing material with apparently his wife and his daughter and the gardener. I mean, this is like Hillary with the server and the bidet stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
And there's an answer to the very good question that you've asked. How do they sleep at night? Why do they do these things? A, I covered one part of it. They don't expect to be caught. And the other part of this, the raw narcissism, self-absorption, and I'm going after Hitler. I'm going after the great Satan Trump. So it doesn't matter what I do. Anything I do is okay because of the greater good of going after Trump. This is the mental illness that wraps around their brains.
SPEAKER 02 :
This is why it's called a syndrome. It is an absolute affliction. Look at this goofy governor of Illinois. I like Stegall's nickname for him, Governor Big Boy. No. And not because of his weight, but because of his hair. You know, that goofy... Bob's big boy, Shoney's big boy. We had Frisch's in Ohio. Really? For real? That's right. We had Frisch's big boy.
SPEAKER 03 :
We had Shoney's in the... Are they still around? I don't know. I haven't seen a big boy in a long time. I haven't either.
SPEAKER 02 :
There's a drop.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know. But for those unfamiliar, it was a kind of a chubby kid, right, with a big swirl of J.B. Pritzker-style hair with a big plate with a burger on it or something.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just smiling and just all the way to somewhere, just happy as could be.
SPEAKER 02 :
And the red and white checked overalls. I mean, it's quite a look. All J.B. Pritzker's missing is the red and white overalls. So anyway, he's been brutal on Trump, you know, and brutal on people like Tom Holman and Stephen Miller. He's going after these folks. We're going to get them down the road. We're keeping score. We're going to prosecute. All they're doing, think about this. Connect these dots for just a moment. The American people elected a man who promised to carry out the biggest mass deportation in American history. The polls show over and over again most Americans favor what's happening with the deportation. All Tom Holman's doing is his job. Tom Holman admitted yesterday on Fox News he hasn't lived with his wife since March because she's in hiding because the lunatics are trying to dox him and his family. The death threats keep coming in. And J.B. Pritzker is encouraging that kind of crap. And then he reveals he won $1.4 million at Blackjack in Vegas. Now, Mark, I like me some Vegas, and I play some Wheel of Fortune. I've enjoyed some blackjack in my day. You don't win $1.4 million in blackjack. And you know what he said was? He sheepishly admitted yesterday when it was revealed that he won $1.4 million.
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SPEAKER 02 :
million as part of his – I got lucky, I guess.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, to say the least.
SPEAKER 02 :
I got lucky?
SPEAKER 03 :
If you win $1.4 million at some point, what did you lose? No kidding.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, not only what did you lose – That doesn't happen in a vacuum. No, something else has gone – How much did you have on the table? And he's the heir to the Hyatt Hotel Corporation chain. So he's already wealthy, although he's been described as the black sheep of the family because he's such a big dummy. Meanwhile, Big Tish, Tish James, she's got another family member who's a fugitive living in another house that she owns.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's keep track because it was a niece or a grandniece or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now there's another one. Now, just how many fugitives and criminals does she have living in her houses? I don't know. Boy, she comes from fine stock. Look, these are bad people. These are not good people. And speaking of nice people, Mark, have you followed all the chatter online about Mike Pence? And the FBI spying on the Trump administration, they're claiming that former Vice President Pence had a back channel to the FBI during the chapter of the FBI spying on the Trump administration. I don't know if it's true or not.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nothing would surprise me. Pence became a snake. He became an absolute snake and is, again, part of the Marx TDS axioms. We've added a fourth one. The first one was Trump hatred makes smart people stupid. The second one makes nice people mean. Third makes funny people unfunny. And the fourth one now for Bolton and others, Trump hatred turns good people into criminals. And I think there was another sort of subset in sort of the Pence mold. Trump hatred can take people of faith and grace and drain all of that from them and make them as mean and nasty and bitter and vindictive as the closest to godless person.
SPEAKER 02 :
Did you see any of the debate last night in New York City?
SPEAKER 03 :
Some clips, yeah. And Curtis did really well. And Andrew Cuomo didn't know. He had two people ganging up on him, didn't know quite what to do. Mom Donnie, as he was with Martha McCallum the other day on Fox, said things that were terrible, that if you have a brain stem, you can figure out how dangerous he is, but said them with such a pleasant demeanor and such a campaign skill set, it was a little scary.
SPEAKER 02 :
I watched the whole thing because WNBC streamed it. We were trying to figure out a way to do it on streaming, that I was going to host something last night and figure out a way. We couldn't pull it off. There was all kinds of copyright stuff and everything. But you could get it on the stream, and I watched just about every word of it. Mom Donnie makes my skin crawl. He looks into the camera with that smile. He smiles inappropriately at everything. Now, thankfully, when they brought up 9-11, he was going from this real Cheshire, you And then somebody said 9-11. Well, then he ended the grin, thank goodness. He's programmed. He's like, he is the Manchurian candidate. He is the leftist candidate from hell. And Curtis had a great night. He had one big stumble. They were asking the three of them who their favorite presidents were of all time. Curtis's answer was George Pataki. So he got a little sidetracked. But he did a great job on substance. Any imbecile could watch that debate and say, well, the guy in the middle is the right guy. This Curtis Lewa guy is the right guy. Now he's getting dragged by our side. You know why? Because he said he agreed that he would not cooperate. He wouldn't let the NYPD cooperate with ICE. And it was like, deal breaker. There you go. You're not a Republican.
SPEAKER 03 :
What was the... Okay, that's unfortunate. It's a New York thing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Did he give any logic for that? It's a New York... No, he just... They did one of those stupid hand... Who's got their hand up if you'd let the NYPD cooperate with ICE? And he didn't put his hand up. And it's like Curtis... Well, but... But people have to understand, I'm not trying to bend over backwards here, but I'm not trying to excuse it, but I can explain it. He's in New York?
SPEAKER 03 :
Nobody in New York thinks there ought to be cooperation at every level of law enforcement to keep illegals from killing us?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, when you put it that way. I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
when I bring the earth logic on.
SPEAKER 02 :
You got me there. I'm trying. No, it's okay. It's okay. How'd you like the look without the beret? He inferred that I think he's losing the beret from now until Election Day. Some would say maybe he should have done that six months ago. You said he should have done that six months ago. When you put it that way...

Join host Rick Hughes for an inspiring and educational session on 'The Flatline' as he explores the empowering concepts of motivation without manipulation. Rick shares insights on how understanding and aligning with God's plan can lead to a fulfilling life. Through riveting discussions and scriptural references, he encourages listeners to embrace faith and reject manipulation by external influences.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I am your host, Rick Hughes, and thank you for tuning in. Hope you'll stick around for a few minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education, and absolutely no manipulation. You heard me right. No manipulation. We're not going to con you. We're not going to solicit money. We're not going to try to sell you anything. We will not ask you to join up, fess it up, give it up, but we will ask you to listen. Listen as I try to verify and identify God's plan for your life. And if I can do that by using the scriptures, then hopefully, hopefully you will orient and adjust to the plan. It's up to you because it's your life. You got one shot at it and not me, you. And every decision that you make, you'll be held accountable for. It's appointed and the man wants to die. And after that, the judgment, the Bible says. So remember that bad decisions limit future options. And you've heard me say it, I'll say it again. The worst decision anyone could ever make is to reject Christ as Savior. The Bible says, he that believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. And he that believeth not, the wrath of God abides on him already. So think about that. Is Jesus Christ the anointed son of God as he claimed he was? And if he is, do you believe in him? He said, this is the will of the one that sent me that you believe in me whom he has sent. That's clear. That's what they did not believe. They did not believe in his day that he was the Messiah. They did not believe he was the anointed son of God. And in their anger and rage over his claim, they manipulated his crucifixion and had him killed. Unfortunately for them, he walked out of the grave alive. Fortunately for us, he's alive today. Not only is he alive in the presence of the Father, but he's coming back for you. And here's the wonderful thing. If you are a believer, he lives in you. Christ in you, the hope of glory, Paul said. He lives in you. you are a tabernacle where the holy spirit resides and recreates christ in you isn't that amazing wow okay well listen there's a lot to talk about today i've been traveling a lot staying on the road gone quite a bit and it's been quite a bit of challenge but It's been a wonderful time, and I thank you for your prayers. I love hearing from you. Thank you for your wonderful letters and notes and even your support. And if you would like to keep praying for us, we ask you to do so. We broadcast in 112 cities across America. Don't forget our books. We are in the process of printing a new book called Practicing Your Christianity, and hopefully... For two months longer, we'll have it out, plus we have our latest book out, which is called Crash Course in Christianity. These books are full of information about what we teach and how the Word of God explains the Christian life, what is the protocol plan of God, what are the ten problem-solving devices. That's what this show is built on, the FLOT line, F-L-O-T, deals with the 10 unique problem-solving devices my pastor taught me a long time ago. These are 10 problem-solving devices that if we learn them and use them, then we can execute and live the Christian life the way God intended for us to do that. And of course, the first one is always rebound. If we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us of our sin. and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. No one can live the Christian life out of fellowship with God. No one can replicate the life of Christ out of fellowship with God. You're kidding yourself if you think you're doing anything for God with unconfessed sin in your life. It doesn't work that way. So you have to deal with your sin consistently, day by day, hour by hour when it occurs. Don't wait until you go to bed at night. If you know you've committed a sin this morning, go to the Father and name it. And he said if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us and purify us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness, even the ones you don't remember. This is the key to being filled with the Holy Spirit. This is how the Christian life operates, under the ministry of the filling of the Holy Spirit. Without that, you can't live the Christian life. That's why Paul mandated in Ephesians that we be filled with the Spirit. That's why Paul wrote there's a war going on between the Spirit and the flesh, and the flesh does not want to give up control of your life, but the Holy Spirit is there. If you'll walk in the Spirit, the Bible says you won't fulfill the lust of the flesh. Walking in the Spirit means when you sin, name the sin to God, get back in fellowship, recover from the quenching that you did and the grieving of the Holy Spirit that you did, get back where you belong, and then you can grow, then you can advance, then you can replicate the life of Christ and represent him in your life and to others. Now, I want to give you the dying words of Paul the Apostle today. I've been talking about aging quite a bit lately, and I think I'm almost through with that. But there's one more course we need to take here. We are going to take a look at Paul's final farewell to young Timothy. Paul's final farewell to young Timothy. Paul the Apostle, amazing. We'll see about him today. In Paul's final farewell to Timothy written from the Maritime Dungeon, this is what he said in 2 Timothy 4, 6 through 7. And you may be able to identify with some of this. I hope you can. This is why I'm giving it to you. He said, I'm now ready to be offered. I'm now ready to be offered. And the time of my departure is at hand. Now he knows he's going to die. He knows he's been set up by Nero. He knows he's already had one mock trial and that didn't go too good. Everybody deserted him. And he knows this is the end. And so he says, you've heard me tell you this in the past few weeks. He said, I fought a good fight. I finished the race and I kept the faith. That word fought, we're gonna look at it first. I fought a good fight. This is the Greek word agonizomai, agonizomai, A-G-O-N-I-Z-O-M-A-I, agonizomai. It's where we get the word agony from. The agonizomai campgrounds, the training grounds for the ancient Greek athletes, they trained like this for the ancient Ithmian games and the Parthenian games and the Olympic games. the place of agony where they trained. And this literally means to compete for a prize. I have fought, I've competed for the prize. Figuratively, it means to contend with an adversary. And he has been contending with an adversary ever since he became a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. His entire earthly ministry was one tremendous test right after another, one test after another. Unbelievable what he went through. Maybe much to some degree like you. Once you believed in Christ, people tell you you're going to have a rosy life and everything's going to be great and fine and you're going to be wonderful from now on and you just don't even realize what's happened. When you accept Christ as your Savior, you step into the arena of contention. It's the angelic conflict. Satan has a bead on you and wants to destroy you. He's not happy about you getting saved. If you are an individual who has accepted Christ as your Savior, do not ever forget you are in an angelic conflict. You're in a war for your spirit. Satan wants to control you. He wants to vilify God by showing your weaknesses and your failures, and he wants to impugn the name of God by maligning you and getting out of going to the lake of fire himself. Now, before Paul's conversion, he was very well-respected. Very well-to-do, very high-ranking Pharisee, and the Bible says he hated Christians and persecuted Christians. But then in his amazing conversion, when he got saved, everything went away. All his arrogance was gone. It completely changed everything about him, the direction in his life, everything. He writes about it in Philippians 3.8. He says these words. Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Jesus Christ my Lord. For his sake, because of him, for this reason in other words, I suffered the loss of all things, his standing, his money, his wealth, his prestige. I've suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish. The Greek word skubala there is the word for defilement, what's in the toilet. I count it as rubbish in order that I may gain Christ. The most significant spiritual thing you can do is occupation with the person of Christ. That's problem-solving device number 10, where he says, it is no longer I but Christ in me. And that is your occupation with the Lord Jesus Christ. Problem-solving device number 10. If you don't understand that, please write to me and let me send you the book on Christian problem-solving. We go over that in detail so you understand that. what it means to be occupied with Christ. It's not some phony baloney you walking around saying, praise Jesus, praise Jesus, I'll walk across the street, praise Jesus, I'll do this. That stuff is phony. Occupation with Christ is you reflecting Jesus Christ through your life, what you think, what you say, and what you do. It starts with, as the Bible says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. You want to know some of the battles that he fought? You want to hear what he went through? Listen as he writes about it in 2 Corinthians 11, 23 through 33. This is a man who was well-respected. This is a man who had everything, and then he got saved, and listen to this. Are they ministers of Christ? I speak as a fool because I am more, in labors more abundantly, in stripes above measure, in prison more frequently, in death often. From the Jews, five times I received 40 stripes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked. A night and a day I've been in the depth. In journeys often in perils of water, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren. in weariness, and toil, and sleeplessness, hunger, thirst, fasting, and cold, and naked, and beside the other things, what comes upon me daily, my deep concern for all the churches who are weak, and am I not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation? If I must boast about something, I will boast in the things which concern my infirmities, The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who's blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. In Damascus, the governor under Aretas, the king, was guarding the city with a damasanes, with a garrison, and was desiring to arrest me, but I was let down through a basket through a window in the wall and escaped. This list I just read to you, does not include the thorn in the flesh in 2 Corinthians 12, 7. It does not include how he was abandoned by his friends when imprisoned in 2 Timothy 1, 15. And it does not include his despair of even his life. Listen to 2 Corinthians 1, 8 through 11. For we do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, of our troubles which came upon us in Asia, that we were burdened beyond measure, above strength, so that we despaired even of life. That means he had an absence of hope of even living. Yes, we had the sentence of death in ourselves that we should not trust in ourselves but in the God who raised us from the dead and who delivered us from such a great death and who will deliver us. Listen, Paul went through stuff you and I cannot even imagine all because he believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and he preached and proclaimed the resurrection of Christ that he was the Savior. this is the servant of god who authored 13 new testament epistles four of which were written while he was in prison i fought the fight there it is you just heard it listen to what he went through i fought the fight and then he said i finished the race what what does that mean and what does that mean for you have you fought the fight have you been faithful have you endured have you finished the race what does that mean Well, it's the second statement that Paul reflects, and it shows his struggles in presenting the gospel. I finished it. I did what I was called to do. I didn't quit. I didn't limp out. I didn't get wounded and lay down and cry about it. I didn't get full of self-pity. It's amazing how many Christians can get full of self-pity so quick. Let someone say something about them. Let something go wrong. And immediately they think God's mad at them. God's trying to get even with them. Or it's just too hard. I just can't live like this. And so they want to go back to their old lifestyle. In Acts 20, 24, Paul said, I don't place any values in my own life. I want to finish this race that I'm running. I want to carry out my mission that I received from the Lord Jesus Christ, the mission of testifying to the good news of God's grace, and you have that same mission. You and I have been called to do exactly the same thing. We are to go forth and represent the message of Jesus Christ, his death, his burial, and his resurrection. There is a whole world that is in the slave market of sin, There's a whole world that needs to be rescued out of the death penalty of sin. And you have the solution if you are willing to give it. And it will cost you. It will cost you. If you are not some self-righteous religious nut, but if you proclaim the forgiveness of Christ by God's grace, it'll cost you. Satan will not like it. He will oppose you. He will stand against you. I can assure you of that. I've seen it for 50 plus years in my own life. So he said this, I'm not ashamed of the gospel, Romans 1.16, because it, it, now what is it? What does that mean, it? It means the gospel. It is the power of God. The gospel, the good news, it's the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. You know what else he said? God didn't send me to baptize, he said in 1 Corinthians 1.17, but to preach the gospel. Why? The gospel is the power of God that brings salvation. There you have it, Romans 1.16, as compared to 1 Corinthians 1.17. His mission was to preach to the Gentiles. Unfortunately, Paul got distracted in some ways and made some mistakes, and he can take up for himself. I'm not here to criticize him, but we see where he went the wrong way in a couple of occasions. But who doesn't? I certainly have, and I know you have too. So he said, I'm not ashamed of the gospel. Even though it's cost me everything, even almost cost me my life, I know that I'm doing the right thing for the right reason. And if you're going to finish your race, let me tell you what you have to do. I don't know what your age is, I don't know what stage of life you're in, but if you're gonna finish the race like Paul, here's what you must do. Hebrews 12, one. Therefore, since we're surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, Let us lay aside every weight and every sin that clings so closely to us and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us. Well, there are some mandates. Let us lay aside. But we're surrounded by a cloud of witnesses. Who's watching? Who's watching you? You are being observed by angels. You're in the angelic arena of contention and they are watching you. Satan is watching you. Fallen angels or demons are watching you. And maybe even a few physical people are watching you. watching you surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses to see what to see what you do how will you handle it will you like the lord jesus christ pass the evidence test that he underwent in matthew 4 or will you give in to the pressure will you say it's too hard i don't have time to study i don't have time to grow i i don't mind going to church once a week but that's too much of that other stuff i got other things to do is that is that you are you like that This verse says, let us lay aside every weight. What's that mean? Everything that takes your time. But I got children. I have to take care of my children. I've got my hobbies. I've got this. I've got that. Sure, we all do. Put it aside. Make priority number one, growing in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. You think God's not going to give you time to handle the other things? Sure he will. Lay aside everything that weighs you down and lay aside every sin, Hebrews says, which clings to you so closely. Sins of the flesh, lust of the flesh, pride of life, these things, put them aside. And let's run with endurance. Get your breath. Stay in shape. Keep going, keep going, keep going. The race that is set before us. Many Christians don't run with endurance, especially as they get older and things begin to hurt and it's hard to get up and walk. It's hard to even go to the bathroom sometimes. Do you quit? Do you feel sorry for yourself? Do you wish it would all end? It's not going to end. God's not through with you yet. He still has a plan for your life. Run the race. Stick with it. Lay aside all the distractions and set priorities in your life. Number one, get victory over your sinful habits that cause you to stumble, such as your mouth when you criticize and malign and gossip and slander other people. Get victory over those sinful habits that caused you to stumble and endure the pain that you're going through right now. Embrace the sacrifice that God asked you to make and you will reap the reward, I promise you. Paul wrote to the Galatians, Galatians 5, 7, and he said, you know, you were really running so well, what hindered you from obeying the truth? What's he talking about? Well, he had led these people to Christ and it wasn't long after that the Judaizers came in and started saying, you got to be circumcised. You're not really saved if you're not circumcised. And they bought the lie. People will tell you, you're not really saved if you're not baptized, brother. Don't buy the lie. Believers do get baptized, but that's not how you get saved. You get saved by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. The issue of circumcision became a distraction in Galatia. And Paul wrote about it because now all of a sudden all the legalism begins to stick his head up. He said, I ran the race, I fought the fight, I kept the faith. 2 Timothy 4, 6. The word faith is the Greek word pistis. P-I-S-T-I-S, pistis. That which is believed is pistis. This means he didn't abandon his beliefs in spite of the cost. And there are times when what you believe will be tested, I promise you. You might even be recruited to follow another pastor who seems to have everything going on. I mean, I've seen it happen to many folks that I know, and they moved on to a more appealing church where there's more programs for the children, yes. It's always about the children. We got to have programs for the children. You know, they have Valentine's Day programs and Easter egg hunts and And it's amazing how people get sucked out of where there's a great, solid, sound Bible teaching pastor because they want something for the children. It was the same excuse that didn't go into the promised land. They said, well, there are giants in there and they'll kill our children. Saving faith, living faith, dying faith, saving faith, Romans 10, 17, so faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. This is where faith is developed, hearing. If you can go to a local church where there's a pastor teaching the word of God and you can learn in privacy in the priesthood and listen and learn and apply and lag, L-A-G, learn, apply, glorify God, that's where it starts. Your faith is developed by hearing the teaching of the word of God. and hearing by the word of God. Listen again, Romans 10, 17. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Why is that so important? Because the word of God is alive and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of the soul and the spirit and the joint and the marrow, and is a critic of thought and incense of the heart. The word of God is alive and powerful in you. That's the greatest power in this world, and you have it in you. So your faith is an act of your volition, but it's also a system of your belief. It takes faith to be saved. By faith, you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. And then the doctrine that you learn is called faith. I did not abandon the doctrine. I did not abandon what I learned. When the race is nearly over, you have to ask yourself the question, have you been faithful to what you learned? Did you stick with it? In Psalm 90 verse 12, teach us to number our days so that we can apply our hearts unto wisdom. In James 4.14, whereas you know not what shall be on the morrow for what is your life, it's just a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. You've seen them in the sky. You've seen the vapor trails of the jets as they fly at 20, 30, 40,000 feet and leave a vapor trail and one minute it's there and the next minute it's gone and that's much like our lives. In Revelation 2.10, the Bible says, fear none of these things which you shall suffer, because, listen, the devil will cast some of you into prison that you may be tried, and you will have tribulation for 10 days, but be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. The crown of life. Now we see what awaits Paul. 2 Timothy 4.8, because of this, there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me on that day, and not to me only, but also to all who love his appearing. That's you. That's you. The winner believer, if it's you, is God's trophy of grace, and as such is recognized once Christ returns to this church. Others, others, he said, but not to me only, excuse me, but to others as well. That's referring to a select group of believers who have their eschatology straight. They understand the eschatology of God's plan. They understand that, the dispensations that are laid out before us. In Colossians 1.15, for the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel. Laid up for you in heaven. Well, when's that gonna happen? At the rapture of the church, the judgment seat of Christ, That seven years of tribulation on earth, you won't be here. You'll be in heaven. You'll be gone before the judgment seat of Christ. And then you shall return with him as he sets up his second advent, the millennial kingdom, where you will rule and reign with him on this earth for 1,000 years. Unless the Lord Jesus Christ returns, this world would totally collapse since human solutions are no solutions to man's sinful rage. It's useless. And so Psalm 110, verse 1, the Lord said unto my Lord, sit thou at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. That's going to happen. If it didn't, the world would cease to exist. Christ will return. He will set up his kingdom. He will rule and reign for 1,000 years and hopefully you and I with him. This is our prize to collect as a reward for our fidelity and for our maximum glorification of God. The crown of righteousness being a trophy of God's grace. That's what I want for you. I want you to be that trophy of God's grace. I want you to get the crown of righteousness as you anxiously await the return of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. He's coming back, and I hate to think about those who are not prepared. Those who have not believed in him and have not received him as their savior will have no solution. They'll have no answer because they'll wonder, where did everybody go? If the rapture of the church takes place and the believers are called to meet the Lord in the air, they're going to say, where did they go? What happened to them? They're with the Lord. I pity those people who has to live through the seven years of tribulation and the rule of the antichrist and the false prophet and the beast. It's not going to be very nice. It will not be you if you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. Remember that. I hope you've listened. I hope you paid attention. I hope you've been encouraged. Until next week, I'm your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.

In this episode, Mike Gallagher dives into a whirlwind of political and societal issues shaping America today. From Ketanji Brown Jackson's controversial statements on disabilities to Nancy Pelosi's heated exchange with a reporter, the show dissects the implications of these headline moments. Gallagher unravels the motivations behind the Left's stance on voter ID laws and tackles the cultural clashes simmering in Washington D.C., urging listeners to consider the broader narrative of political discourse in the United States.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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I know there's a lot of legitimate breaking news today, but there are two stories that I don't dare avoid. There are two things that are so wild. We've got the former Speaker of the House, who's considered one of the prominent Democrats in America, Nancy Pelosi screeching shut up to a young female reporter, and you've got a Supreme Court justice proclaiming that black people are disabled. The whole left has fallen apart. Polling, data, everything is suggesting that they're coming apart at the seams. The only normal Democrat right now is John Fetterman. And look, even he only votes with Trump 6% of the time. Are you kidding me? He's no conservative. He's not a Republican. But he's kind of normal. He says normal things. He says, I don't want to call Trump supporters Nazis because they're not. And the left is furious at him. They want to primary him. Axios has reported that they're planning to primary John Fetterman. And he is very popular with voters in Pennsylvania. The problem is, he's too normal. I mean, let's just start with Ketanji Brown-Jackson for a moment. And I mean this sincerely. I have always maintained that the left is so condescending and so patronizing and so racist that the reason they oppose voter ID laws is because they think blacks are too stupid to be able to go down and get a free ID. Photo IDs are free. You go down to the DMV, it doesn't even cost anything to get a state identification. I'm not talking about a driver's license. Maybe you don't drive. Maybe you don't have a car. But you want to vote. And you live in an area where there is a requirement that you have a voter identification. It's not a big deal to go down and get a free ID. Sometimes it's $10. But it's nothing. It's zero effort. You just got to make the effort, right? Well, the left hates voter ID laws. So you have to wonder, why does the left hate voter ID laws? Their argument is, well, you're going to disenfranchise black people. And I keep saying, what do you mean you're going to disenfranchise? How do you disenfranchise black people? Now, what they don't say out loud, what they don't admit, is that they think black people are too stupid, too uneducated, too naive... Too ignorant, too immature to be able to figure out how to go down and get a free ID. And they don't quite say that. They'll never admit that. They don't go that far. But once in a while, somebody on the left makes a mistake. and says the quiet part out loud. I give you United States Supreme Court Justice Katonji Brown Jackson in an audio version yesterday of Supreme Court arguments about redistricting. Here's what she said.
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Congress passed the Americans with Disabilities Act against the backdrop of a world that was generally not accessible to people with disabilities. And so it was discriminatory in effect because these folks were not able to access these buildings. And it didn't matter whether the person who built the building or the person who owned the building intended for them to be exclusionary. That's irrelevant. Congress said the facilities have to be made equally open to people with disabilities if readily possible. I guess I don't understand why that's not what's happening here. The idea in Section 2 is that we are responding to current-day manifestations of past and present decisions that disadvantage minorities and make it so that they don't have equal access to the voting system. Right. They're disabled. In fact, we use the word disabled in Milligan. We say that's a way in which you see that these processes are not equally open.
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If you're an American who happens to be black and you're listening or watching the Mike Gallagher show today, may I ask you how it feels to know that a Supreme Court justice thinks you're disabled because of the color of your skin? She said it. In fact, she doubled. Those are her words. They're disabled. In fact, we even use the term disabled to talk about what she believes to be disadvantaged black voters. This is why they don't like voter ID laws. They think blacks are like disabled, addled, lost individuals. That's why they, she said it out loud. And look, she's a lioness of the left. This is Katonji Brown Jackson. She's a proud, strong woman. Picked for her legal prowess. Look, she's on the highest court of the land. Blacks are disabled. Now you know why they're against the voter ID laws? Now do you get it? Now do you understand how scurrilous, how disgusting, how judgmental and condescending and racist people on the left are? They have completely taken Martin Luther King's mantra. judge a person not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character and they've thrown it out the window. It doesn't matter to them. All that matters is that's why we have affirmative action. That's why we have rejection of voter ID laws. That's why we have diversion, equity, and inclusion. Because black people are disadvantaged because they're disabled. They're just like somebody in a wheelchair. They're just like somebody who's an amputee. They're just like somebody who's got Down syndrome. They're just like somebody who is physically and emotionally disabled. So saith Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson. Wow. 1-800-655-MIKE. We're in the Relief Factor studios Thursday, October 16th. Welcome aboard. I'm glad you're here. We got a lot of news today. We got Nancy Pelosi's epic meltdown. I can't wait to share that with you. We got the media's meltdown. They're going to take their ball and go home. They're not going to cover the Pentagon anymore. What will we ever do? They're all upset. They're all throwing a hissy fit over Pete Hegseth's rules over the Pentagon and the media coverage because he doesn't want leaks to expose national intelligence and give away state secrets. Oh, what a crazy concept. So we've got a lot to break down, but let's start right there with Ketanji Brown-Jackson. I've got to get your reaction. 1-800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Join us. We'll be right back. Now, this box is about more than just dinner. It's about gathering your loved ones, creating memories, and feeding your legacy with beef raised the right way. From their ranch to your table, it's a taste of tradition that reminds us what family meals are supposed to be. And when you order this Autumn Butcher Box between now and October 19th, you get a pound of steak meat as a free bonus. Tri-Tales also still has my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box just for you. Get one or both and see what beef is supposed to taste like for yourself. As always, you get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Don't wait. Order the Autumn Butcher Box or my Gallagher Patriot Box today. Go to trybeef.com slash Gallagher. Share in the legacy. Trybeef.com slash Gallagher. That's trybeef.com slash Gallagher.
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I got to give you the clip of the day as we see a live look at Belmont, North Carolina on the Salem News Channel live cam. Check it out, snc.tv. We appreciate you watching every single day. I get a lot of texts and emails from people saying, yep, I watch you every day on Salem News Channel. In fact, I got stopped yesterday in the airport by a Salem News Channel fan, which is always nice. It's always humbling. Had a guy give me a sticker yesterday in the airport. A member of the Greenville-Spartanburg airport police team gave me a sticker making me a junior officer. So better be on your best behavior in the GSP airport because I'm a junior officer now. All right, here's the clip of the day. This is Nancy Pelosi. She is asked by a reporter, and I'm pretty sure this is somebody from Lindell TV, which has to really infuriate her. This is Mike Lindell's network, or my pillow buddy. I'm almost positive this is a reporter from Lindell TV doing the work that other journalists aren't doing, asking Nancy Pelosi questions. if you're going to face any accountability for not providing the troops as requested on January 6th.
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Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day? Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day? Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?
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Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?
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The American people want to know. We still have questions. Thank you.
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Oh, no, no, you clipped it before she turned around and smiled. You've got to see the smile at the reporter at the end. It's perfect. At the end of that, the young reporter turns to the camera. She says, thank you. And she turns and she smiles like, I got her. That's Nancy Pelosi losing her you-know-what. And you know why she lost it? Because she knows she's in trouble. She knows she's in trouble. And as the then chief of the Capitol Police has confirmed, she repeatedly ignored their frantic requests to authorize the National Guard backup. Even after the Capitol was breached, she wouldn't give the go-ahead. She's admitted it. Remember the Pelosi daughter documentary? They got her on tape in the car admitting she regrets not sending in the National Guard. That's why she lost it. I mean, that's, we've got to play that again. And play it through this time. See if we can see the reporter at the end of the clip turn to the camera with a cat-that-swallowed-the-canary grin.
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Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day? Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day? Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?
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Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?
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The American people want to know. We still have questions. Thank you.
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We'll get the version where you can see her turn and smile. It's classic. It's so good. We're going to just isolate Nancy Pelosi wagging her crooked finger at that young reporter. Shut up! Shut up! They're losing it. The Democrats are coming apart at the seams. And it's just pretty delightful to watch, isn't it? I can't help myself. The media is melting down because Pete Hegseth doesn't want them to leak sensitive classified material that could put our country in danger. So they've turned in their press credentials when covering the Pentagon. Oh my gosh, what are we ever going to do? Stick around. There's a lot more of this Thursday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show coming up. You ready to drop up to 20 pounds or more by the new year? Have you been struggling with belly fat forever? You know, the older you get, the harder it is to say goodbye to those unwanted pounds. PHD Weight Loss cracked the code. They have a metabolic reset system that's a science-backed way to get your body to burn fat first. Look, I've tried everything my whole life. I counted points. I counted calories. I did crazy starvation diets. Then I met Dr. Ashley Lucas, and I learned all about her brilliant program called PhD Weight Loss, the only program that guarantees your success and your results. If I can lose over 50 pounds and keep it off over a couple of years, you can too. Everybody can. When you call right now, they'll waive your consultation fee, you'll get two extra weeks free, and they'll cover the cost of your food during the program. Just for booking, you'll get Dr. Ashley's book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. Hurry, call today, 864-644-1900, Ph.D. Weight Loss, 864-644-1900, or visit their website at myphdweightloss.com.
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Just to be clear, 90% of secretaries of HHS have not been doctors. But they've had a science background. There have been three. One of Obama's secretaries of HHS was an economist.
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I was right. That reporter that got Nancy Pelosi to erupt. is with Lindell TV, Allison Steinberg from Lindell TV. And Michigan said she is awesome. Well, the smile that she gives is perfect. It's just perfect. Hard to believe that they're so willing to fall apart so publicly. And they are. They're coming apart at the seams. What's New York City going to do with the mayor's race coming up in just a couple of short weeks? Tonight's the big mayoral debate. I understand it's going to be hosted by WNBC-TV in New York City, and we're hoping to get maybe some access to it. And what I'd love to do is provide our audience with a broadcast. I would love to be able to have a way for you to watch and hear the debate through our platform. Maybe it's X. Maybe it's MikeOnline.com. Maybe it's our YouTube channel. Maybe it's some of our affiliates. I don't know. Maybe here in Tampa or New York or maybe South Carolina. I don't know. We're working on it. Tom Tradup is scrambling and doing his best to come up with a way to see if we can provide it to you. So here's what I urge you to do. It's scheduled for 7 o'clock tonight, Eastern Time, 6 p.m. Central, 4 p.m. Pacific. Just check out, make sure you stay glued to our X account. My handle at X is at Gallagher Show. And keep an eye on that because if we can pull it off, we will. Eric and I are going to work on the technical side of it, and I would love to be able to host and anchor, you know, before, during, and after. We'll take your text messages. We'll have like a get-together. We'll have like a big party. A viewing party. That's how people ought to treat the no kings protest this weekend. I mean, it's hysterical. What is the protest exactly? No kings, no billionaires. Well, what do you want to do with the billionaires? Put them on an island somewhere? What should happen to the billionaires of America? And Zoran Mamdani has said there should be no billionaires. And dare I ask, do they want to take them out like they've taken out the CEO of UnitedHealthcare? Like they took out Charlie Kirk? Like they tried to take out President Trump? Is that what the Democrats want when they march around and say no billionaires? No billionaires? How do you even explain that? Tell that to... Mark Cuban isn't allowed to exist? What should happen to Mark Cuban? Do you want him incarcerated? Or do you just want to confiscate his wealth? I mean, on the surface, that's what Zoran Mamdani wants to do. Take away the wealth of the billionaires and give it to people at the bottom of the economic rung on the ladder. That's their plan. There should be no wealth. That's called communism. That's what communists do. That's who Zoran Mamdani is. Portions of our show are sponsored by ThinkFactor. Life is coming at us fast. You've got to stay sharp. You've got to stay focused, clear-headed. It's not always easy, especially the older we get. 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But our handle on X is at Gallagher Show. And... On X or go to mikeonline.com tonight or the Mike Gallagher Show YouTube channel. The other crazy clip of the day came from Ketanji Brown Jackson. This one actually blows my mind. This is the one for the ages. This is a justice of the United States Supreme Court. Now, as you know, the Supreme Court is hearing arguments for and against redistricting. The Democrats have managed to install redistricting as a way to prop up artificial districts that reflect a disproportionate percentage of black Americans. It's all about race. The legal argument is over a voting map in Louisiana. And Democrats want to use race as a factor in creating election districts. Ketanji Brown Jackson weighed in. And boy, is this one for the ages.
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Congress passed the Americans with Disabilities Act against the backdrop of a world that was generally not accessible to people with disabilities. And so it was discriminatory in effect because these folks were not able to access these buildings. And it didn't matter whether the person who built the building or the person who owned the building intended for them to be exclusionary. That's irrelevant. Congress said the facilities have to be made equally open to people with disabilities if readily possible. I guess I don't understand why that's not what's happening here. The idea in Section 2 is that we are responding to current-day manifestations of past and present decisions that disadvantage minorities and make it so that they don't have equal access to the voting system. They're disabled. In fact, we use the word disabled in Milligan. We say that's a way in which you see that these processes are not equally open.
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Oh, boy. They don't have equal access to the voting system because they're disabled. I'm stunned. Now, it kind of makes sense. For years, I've scratched my head at the left's opposition. to voter ID laws. It makes no sense to me the way Democrats get all ramped up, they get all amped up, they get all agitated over a voter ID law. Meaning you've got to present a form of identification, a legitimate form of identification, to vote. And I have gotten a number of callers over the years to essentially admit they think blacks are too stupid to figure out how to get a photo ID. That's what it boils down to. They use fancy words like disenfranchised, access, yada, yada, yada. What it really boils down to is that the left is so patronizing, so arrogant, so smug, that they believe that black people are, well, to quote Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, disabled. As a black person, you have a disability. That's what she thinks. She's comparing black Americans to folks who benefit from the Americans with Disabilities Act. It's like you've got to have a ramp to get into a building if you're in a wheelchair. If you're black, you're clearly disabled. And we ought to look at it the same way. Now, she was absolutely willing and able to say that out loud, like that's normal. A black Supreme Court justice, as you just heard, believes that black voters need assistance in voting because they have the disability of being black. You never hear Republicans talk like this. You never... Look, there is bad... people on every side of every political spectrum. And I know that racism is not dead. I get it. I'm sensitive to it. I don't ever want to defend racist or bigoted speech or behavior. But do you know how bigoted it is to believe that black people are disabled? Whoa. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. 800-655-MIKE. Wow. That's the one of the day. Tracy disagrees. She thinks maybe the Kamala one is the biggest one, or Nancy Pelosi is the biggest one. No, I think a Supreme Court justice believing that black Americans are disabled takes the cake. What it must feel like if you're a black American to be condescended to that way. Look, that's why people are leaving... The Democrat Party in droves. Because this is how people on the left feel.
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I kind of feel like Captain Ahab this week snagging Moby Dick. Some guests that I've wanted to have for a long time on this show are kind of coming together. We're going to talk to Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana. And we get to talk to... Town Hall's own Katie Pavlich. She, of course, author, Fox News contributor, editor-at-large for townhall.com, and she is just back from the Middle East. Katie, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. How are you? I guess I've got to push the button, don't I? Because normally we get a guest through another channel. That big build-up, and I forgot to push the button. Hi, Katie! Hi!
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Hi, Mike. Thanks so much for having me.
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Can I share the goofy exchange we once had where I sat next to a woman in a restaurant with blue, like a blue streak, a purple streak in her hair, and I thought it was you, and I texted you, and I said, do you remember that? Now, see, I know you told people over at Town Hall and Fox News and people said, Gallagher's nuts. There's something wrong with this guy. remember that i think i put that one out of my memory but uh yeah i'm not the blue hairy kind of gal got the wrong one i really did i thought maybe you were having a meltdown with the purple hair it was crazy hey katie what an experience you had to have share with us just on a personal on a personal level what it was like to be able to travel uh over to uh to israel and witness that historic peace agreement
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Yeah, so thanks to President Trump's new media policy and then bringing on different kinds of digital media to be in the White House press pool, we were given the opportunity to travel with the president on Air Force One in the pool. over to Israel for his speech to the Knesset and then on to Egypt. And it was just amazing to watch this history unfold firsthand. I always say I love my job because I have a front row seat to history. And if you're someone in the media, you're oftentimes writing the first draft of American history. And we want accurate pro-American people doing that. And so to be in the motorcade and to land at Ben Gurion and to look out the window and to see on the beach, thank you, President Trump, written in large letters, and then to get there and the... When they received him and to have American flags lining the highway all the way from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem for the president's arrival at the Knesset was just absolutely amazing to see. And then, of course, the reception inside the room, you know, technically you're not supposed to be clapping or cheering or loud inside the Knesset. But they threw all those rules out the window for President Trump's visit. And I was joking because, you know, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu got up to speak yesterday. And then his opposition, Lapid, got up to speak and they were able to clap and cheer for each other. So I said, yeah, that's actually real peace in the Middle East right there. So those two can get along.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I mean, Katie, and you can't you can't overstate the the way Israelis feel towards President Trump, can you? You mentioned that you flying in and seeing the sign and thank you, President Trump. Every single time I've been to Israel, I'm always astounded at how much the people of Israel really love and respect and admire President Trump.
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They love President Trump. They love America. I see more American flags when I'm in Israel than I see in northern Virginia, just outside of Washington, D.C. But most importantly, when we were there, we were there the day that the hostages were released. We were on the ground an hour or two after the first hostages arrived. living hostages were finally released and then were departing when the final living hostages were home and so that was just a momentous occasion and you could feel it in the air from all the people there lining the streets saying thank you and just this relief that they had and this real partnership you know I've covered the relationship between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Trump for many years I covered them during the first term And I've been at every event that they've had at the White House during this first year of President Trump's second term. And to watch what they've been able to accomplish together has just been absolutely spectacular. And to hear the president talk about that partnership on Air Force One. and how he believes Bibi was the right person at the right time for this moment. There's been talk that there is daylight between them. Of course, the media tries to drive a wedge. There was none of that. And there was no wedge between the Israeli-American relationship that I could see throughout this trip. And it's amazing to see President Trump standing firmly on the right side here with moral clarity and strength.
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Katie, I worry that we've become so numb to all the crazy events that are happening all the time that we fail to recognize the enormity of a moment like this one. I mean, we look at the craziness. Yesterday, the Supreme Court justice suggesting that blacks are disabled and that's why we need redistricting. Nancy Pelosi shouting shut up to a young reporter for asking about January 6th. I mean, there's governors and mayors rejecting federal assistance to lower crime in their own cities. Do you worry that Americans can't quite grasp this kind of achievement, peace in the Middle East? I know there's a lot to be worked out and there's a lot of challenges with Hamas. But do you fear like I do that sometimes there's so much coming at us that we don't even appreciate these massive major moments?
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Yeah, I think there's a lot that's easy to distract away, a lot of negativity to distract away from the good and the success and the accomplishments. But I sometimes wish President Trump would take a second and just, you know, take it all in and appreciate what he's accomplished. He's the one who's also moving on so quickly. You know, he got back to the White House late today. Tuesday morning at 3 a.m., and he's already on to the next big thing, the next big accomplishment. So I kind of wish that he could stretch out these successes a little more. But they're still working on it, and certainly as we reflect and process everything that happened, we'll be hearing more about it. But just being there for the 36 hours and literally running from place to place and noticing the differences between the Israeli reception and the reception in Egypt, Most notably that the halls of the building in Egypt smelled like cigarettes, said it was not the case in the Knesset. It was just amazing to watch all of that unfold in such a fast fashion and for him to jump back on the plane and already be working on the next big project. I mean, he's talking to President Putin right now on the phone. about ending this Ukraine-Russia war. So he's always on to the next thing, which doesn't allow us to really sit and settle and think about the enormous accomplishment of what has just happened. But that's just how he operates, so we all got to keep going.
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I was going to say, that's how he rolls. Katie, we know how busy you are. I'm grateful that you could spend a few minutes with us because we wanted to see how the experience was felt from your perspective. Keep fighting the good fight and all the great work you're doing at Town Hall and Fox News Channel. We appreciate you very much, Katie.
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Thanks so much. And if people want more photos, videos, there's plenty of that on my X feed and also full coverage at townhall.com.
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So thank you so much for the opportunity. Townhall.com. Don't miss it. Thanks, Katie. Katie Pavlich joining us, editor-at-large for townhall.com.
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Dive into the latest episode where we explore the complex landscape of critical race theory and its profound influence on media practices. Our discussion traverses from newsrooms' diversity efforts, the dynamics of intersectionality, to a reflective analysis of recent media layoffs. Dana offers critical insights into the Marxist origins of CRT, challenging some held perceptions while pushing for a more transparent media narrative.
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All right. So first up here. the man alive i'm telling you some of this stuff does not want to load all right i'm having a little bit of a technical issue so first up i think i had this story before but there is an update to it uh i got a couple so this first story do you guys remember the uh 70 year old who apparently urinated all over ten thousand dollars worth of food at a sam's club oh yeah remember that story So I didn't have this information. Patrick Mitchell, when authorities got there to arrest him, he was taking a nap on the lawn furniture that they had displayed in the middle. You know how they have all the stuff in the middle and they have like the lawn furniture out and sometimes they'll set up the umbrellas and all that. He was under an umbrella that was set up relaxing on a lounge chair. That would have, and apparently there is cell phone images of him doing the deed. And the reason all this is coming out is because he's now going to court over it, finally. Even though he was originally arrested during the summer, but now the court cases, now he's, the litigations, I don't know what there is to litigate. I mean, you're literally videotaped urinating on 188 cans of Vienna sausages. Oh. And 345 cans of spam over ten thousand dollars. That's a lot. So anyway, just a little just a little update to that story, because I thought it was just hysterical that he's lounging on, you know, lounging on floor on furniture. Let's see. A central Florida teenager was charged because deputies say he faked an abduction that caused an Amber alert. Oh, OK. He's a minor, 17 years old. He apparently faked his abduction. They issued a statewide Amber Alert. And then, well, he wasn't abducted. So he's been charged with presenting false evidence, making a false report of a crime, possession of a firearm. He apparently had a handgun and shooting into a conveyance, according to the press release in the Marion County Sheriff's Office. It seems like the family was kind of in on it as well. I was thinking about this in context of media. Did you guys read about NBC? They're having 150 layoffs. They're gutting black, Latino, Asian American, and LGBTQ+. They put the plus there because there's like a host of letters and numbers that fall. I don't even know what we talked about that yesterday. The verticals focused on those issues, but now apparently... This is the headline and this is from The Wrap. It says that it's a broader shift in media away from diversity efforts. That's not what it is. Newsrooms for people to argue that newsrooms weren't already diverse. I think you're a racist if you are arguing that newsrooms weren't diverse before the alphabet, namely the T-Mafia. You know what I mean? If you did not realize that there was already a diverse representation of people in the news, then you are a racist because you ignored them. You ignored and marginalized them and only began really paying attention when it became trendy. And that's the truth of it. This wasn't about diversity. This was about critical race theory. And critical race theory, you can say DEI, all of it is really critical race theory. DEI is basically a subset of CRT. I've written and talked about CRT for a good night, like 15 years now. And to recap critical race theory, in fact, you guys remember way back, this was right about the time that Andrew Breitbart passed away. And maybe you guys remember. Do you remember the video that he had talked about when it was Barack Obama hugging somebody? You guys remember that? There was this video. I was on CNN about it. I had to go out when I worked for Andrew at the time. I was the editor of Big Journalism before everything got combined. They were able to obtain this video of Barack Obama on campus. And he was friends and very close with this professor named Derrick Bell. And this is when he was a law student and it was at Harvard, Harvard Law. And he had spoken – there was a video that we had where he was in – he was at a rally there. And he had given him a hug and he had – they had done – spoken in defense of him and all this stuff. And this was in 1990. Obama spoke in support of Bell at this. They had a protest at Harvard and they were demanding diversity on the faculty. Now, all of this whole protest was started – by this Derrick Bell. Now, who is Derrick Bell? Derrick Bell is one of the biggest proponents of critical race theory in the United States. And critical race theory comes from Marxism. It's a tenant of Marxism, Frankfurt School of Marxism. I mean, it is designed to either supplant or work parallel to economics in terms of dividing the classes. So where economic Marxism would focus on dividing people by finances, income, etc., Critical race theory is all about dividing by race. And intersectionality, where you check off all these boxes of things that you believe have been willfully done wrong to you, whether it's race or gender or whatever, when you have all of these things, that's what intersectionality is. That is a phrase from critical race theory. And critical race theory, they are the people who promoted race as a social construct. And at the very heart of critical race theory is the idea of systemic racism. That is like the core belief of CRT. Now, why is that? The goal of CRT is to destabilize societies. not just with economic means as with what most people normally think of Marxist narrative warfare, but critical race theory is about destabilizing societies amongst people socially promoting actual, I mean, literally promoting segregation. That's why it's so – equity instead of equality, that's from critical race theory. DEI is just an action of critical race theory. That lends itself to the hiring practices and the changing of your employee structure. So back to the point, the video where Barack Obama was hugging Derrick Bell, One of the reasons that was that we came out with that was because we were talking about this is back in 2012, critical race theory. It was like the last video that Andrew had published. And it was the last story rollout that he directed before he passed away. And it was about the talking, trying to inform people about critical race theory and warning them of what was to come. And we were out there warning people about this and warning this. You know, Derrick Bell started this at Harvard and it went from there. And it was Barack Obama that helped mainstream it amongst the students. So that's why it was so incredibly important. And a lot of people didn't really understand it at the time. A lot of people came out and defended him in 2012 when we started our expose of this. So the whole point is this critical race theory. This is what they were using. as a means to determine hiring in newsrooms. And you guys saw this. You guys saw everything, whether it was a school board fight. You guys saw all of this. All of this unfolded. All of it unfolded. And it was all because you had Derrick Bell, who was a Marxist, Barack Obama, who was a Marxist, and Obama mainstreamed it amongst the student body. And to this point with these newsrooms. So the newsrooms, they were all about trying to... They wanted to really promote stories through that CRT lens. And so this is where you get into the hiring of people who maybe didn't have the resume or the merit, but that's where intersectionality, remember the CRT term, that's where the intersectionality comes in. If you were black, if you were gay, if you were lesbian, if you were trans, if you were whatever. The more of those intersectional boxes that you could check, that was a substitute in the context of critical race theory. That is a substitute for merit. And so that's how a lot of these hiring practices went. So now here we are today. NBC News is eliminating its teams that specifically only covered those issues. You realize that they had like a handful of staffers for specifically alphabet plus issues. Do you really need that many staff? What in the world? I mean, you have news and then you have things that you're trying to make news. So I think that their insistence at trying to explain that this is a shift away from quote unquote diversity efforts. This is a shift away from propaganda. So the NBC laying off 150 people, that's pretty big. But that's not all. They also have, in addition to that, you have the Los Angeles Times. Same thing. They're trying to divert, well, undiversify, I guess you could say. The media is changing. And then, of course, you have the CBS thing. You have the CBS thing where they acquired the free press. And by the way, those are the people, and I'll talk about this more, that's the entity with which I'm doing the debate coming up after the election. I'm debating Alan Dershowitz in Chicago on gun control. And the free press, and Barry Weiss, she's moderating the free press, is hosting it. You know CBS acquired, CBS Paramount acquired them in a major deal. And she's going to be heading up the news and political department at CBS. And a lot of people in the media are livid There are all those old school lefties that were really trying to incorporate CRT into every aspect of the newsroom. It affected the story. I mean, you've got to realize critical race theory affected everything from how police staffed to the stories that you watched on TV to the things that you read online, the movies that you watched, the music you listened to. It kicked off the behavioral credit thing that they were trying to do with banks. I mean, this literally spawned since 2012. a host of things. And now it's changing in the media because the media realizes the way that they were doing it is not working anymore. And this is a huge shift in media. And remember, Barry Weiss was run out of the New York Times. And what's funny is she checks all these these intersectional boxes. Right. She's a lesbian. She's a woman. She's Jewish. You would think that that would be considered a protected class with the left. But all of those intersectional boxes are rendered irrelevant here. If you are not a far left progressive, it's not even good enough to be an independent. It's not even good enough, as you can see with John Fetterman, to be a moderate. If you are not far left, you are persona non grata. Intersectionality is no longer applicable to you. So this is changing and this is gonna be a huge shift in the media environment. So apparently we have to stop falling for the whole higher thread counting because it doesn't necessarily mean better sheets. That's fake news apparently. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I got to be honest, this seems like a big problem. PayPal's crypto partner minted a whopping $300 trillion worth of stable coins in what it called a technical error. Why can't these technical errors ever happen to me? Why are we always left out, Cain? I mean, that would be great. There aren't even enough dollars in global circulation, notes CNBC, to back it. That would literally require, not theoretically, but really require more than double of the world's estimated total GDP. It's insane. And they said Paxos mistakenly minted the stable coins as part of an internal transfer before it then immediately identified the error and burned off the excess PYUSD. That's what they said in a social media statement. That makes me see. This is why people question not like crypto. I've got to be honest with you. It's why this stuff like this. I'm just saying, just saying this. Seventy five percent of Americans report soaring prices. Now, granted, this is from The Guardian, which is a. British turd of a publication. But inflation, it's still a reality. We're not going to Biden this stuff. There's still pessimism about the economy. And honestly, regardless of who they voted for on the right, people are pretty divided as to whether or not the economy is going to hold. Now, the president says that there's virtually no inflation. There is some. There's a new Harris poll showing that Americans are still reporting soaring inflation. A lot of people are pretty pessimistic about the economy. I know Cain's saying let Trump cook. Are you going to say what? What?
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I think what they're mistaking are these companies responding to what they believe the tariffs will do. And so companies are trying to protect themselves. Customers may see a little increase in price, but we're talking about actual inflation. It's not really there. It's way down.
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There are certain things that are more. That is for sure. And and some of it is because, I mean, we really could, like, for instance, construction costs, Jiminy Christmas. But that's also because we don't have a lot of those resources here domestically. And that's a huge problem with it. But it's going to be harder to create them domestically if we can't get a handle on the pricing. You know, Hegseth, Secwar, his plane made an emergency landing in the UK. I've never heard. I'm sure this happens on planes, but I've never heard about it before. They had a crack in the windshield. That seems like a problem. There was a crack in the aircraft's windscreen. It was a Boeing C-32A, military version of the 757. It was going to D.C. from Brussels because he was attending NATO meetings. They declared an emergency over the Atlantic Ocean and they ended up having to land briefly at the Mildon, RAF Mildon Hall, a Royal Air Force station in Suffolk, Suffolk, England, excuse me. And even though it's RAF, it supports a lot of USAF operations. So they, not a big deal. They're like, not a big deal. Don't nobody freak out. It's not the end of the world. It's just sometimes this happens. Lifting weights is kind of like taking probiotics, says this headline that looks suspiciously like it was written by Kane. Resistance training may yield an unexpected side effect, a healthier gut. Well, you know what? Working out just generally, And a washing machine for humans that rinses your entire body inside of a giant pod and even plays movies for you while you wait. We are living in a WALL-E world. No, I'm not getting in a washing pod. That's just, that's called a shower. You know what this is? It's a soup capsule. This looks gross. I just, you sit in it and then it sprays. Does it like part your backside to wash you there too? Like where does it stop? Does it tweet? No. I mean, I'm not I wouldn't be surprised. And a study says people hit their functional peak around age 60. Although for the left, I think it's dramatically younger. Stick with us. Our partners that help bring you the program, Caltech's KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. It's one of the newest ones that they've made. It's on the popular KS7 platform. The Gen 2 is packed with all kinds of upgrades. You have a five slot. picatinny style rail that lets you add vertical grips lights you can keep it flush and sleek with a cap if you want it's a smoother pump action for faster cleaner cycling and you also have enhanced durability ultra lightweight it's just under seven pounds unloaded compact bullpup design so you have maneuverability and tight spaces ambidextrous downward shell ejection and a seven plus one capacity for stopping power. And MSRP makes it affordable at just $639. So it brings all of that well within reach. It's from Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com, made here in the USA. It's Kel-Tec weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Into one that's affordable for each and every New Yorker.
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Okay. And I want to get to that. Absolutely. But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?
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I believe that any future here in New York City is one that we have to make sure that's affordable for all. And as it pertains to Israel and Palestine, that we have to ensure that there is peace. And that is the future that we have to fight for.
SPEAKER 05 :
But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their arms and give up leadership in Gaza?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety and the fact that anything has to abide by international law. And that applies to Hamas, that applies to the Israeli military, applies to anyone you could ask me about.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. That's not an answer. That isn't an answer. You know, maybe the New York YRs, middle-aged YRs, maybe if they weren't texting so much and doing all of that, they could have maybe put up a bigger fight to this guy because he's leading. He's going to win. He's going to be mayor of New York. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of this third hour. That's Zoran Mamdani, who was on Fox yesterday. I didn't hear a condemnation, Cain, did you? No.
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And he's the anti-gun character.
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Yeah.
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Like, what?
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Yeah, he's anti-gun except for Hamas. He doesn't think Hamas should let, you know, guns for Hamas, but not for you. That's the real truth of it. So he repeatedly, repeatedly refused to say that they should. And that's one of the conditions, you know, the peace deal that Trump outlined, the 20 point peace plan. That's one of the conditions of it. It's absolutely one of the conditions of it. And he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't say it. He wouldn't say that he could not even back like back something back up something that simple, which is a real problem. I don't know. And he's leading. He's leading. Is that in New York? The biggest city really in the world, and he's leading there. He's going to be mayor. And it's going to be horrible. It's going to be so bad. And I think people who vote for him should not be barred from leaving. I think people should be forced to live under what they voted for. Is that I mean, call it tyranny. That's why I'm not running for office ever, because I would make that happen. Let people suffer under the indignity of their own vote. Just crazy. But he would not even say could not even couldn't even do that. Just wow. It's pathetic. And he's going to win. It's crazy, but he's going to win. He couldn't even. And that was just like one part of it. I mean, this this was a train wreck interview. And Martha McCallum's not even a difficult interviewer. he is he's just he's so bad listen to this listen to this audio somebody 28 this is cut 28 where he he talks about the tax levels if he wins this is what people are going to pay in tax listen so a lot of individuals in this city pay more than 50 percent of their income in taxes when you talk about a fair share how much more than what is the fair share what's the number
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I've said that we should increase personal income taxes by 2%.
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So 52% is fair? And my point is this. If you give up more than half of your income, that's fair.
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If you're making a million dollars in New York City, or more than that, you can afford to pay 2% more. And the reasons you can afford to do so is because that money will be used to better your quality of life as well. Because when I speak to the wealthiest New Yorkers, I hear concerns about the cleanliness of the city, the quality of life in the city, questions of public safety. This money is the money that will be used to deliver on those things so that we can ensure that we have a return on investment for all of the money that we are raising and spending right here.
SPEAKER 03 :
But wait a minute, though. Like what? So it's already they're already the highest taxed one of the highest taxed people in the nation. Why aren't all of those issues met now? Thank you. If you're already paying, people are paying 52% of their paychecks and taxes already, why isn't it working? You already have Democrat leadership. Now you're going to get even worse Democrat leadership. I wish that would have been the follow-up. Well, wait a minute. Why isn't that working now? Over 52% of your paycheck goes to the government in New York. Why is crime out of control? Why are the streets filled with homeless and drug dealers and everything else? Why are they hemorrhaging high earners? Why isn't it working? He's never been asked that question. I thought I was anticipating waiting for that to be the follow-up and it wasn't. I'm like, okay, well. But why not ask him that question? I feel like that's fair to ask. 52%, can you imagine? This is cut 26. He was asked, well, how does it help affordability? Because you know you have companies that are fleeing Manhattan. I don't know what they're going to replace that tax revenue with. Listen.
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that JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs have moved major operations to Texas. They've not abandoned New York, but they're hedging their bets on New York because of the increased taxes that they see coming if you become mayor. So when they do that, jobs move out of the city as well. So how does that help affordability if people in the city don't have the jobs that they had that they once had here?
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Well, I'm looking to make this a city that every person chooses, whether they're a business leader or they're someone who works for that business. And the key ways of doing that are actually delivering quality of life, public safety and affordability for each and every person. Because what we're seeing right now is we have a broken status quo. We have a corrupt political system and we have the politicians that sustain that. That's really what's on the ballot is whether New Yorkers want to continue that or that they actually want a city they can afford.
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Wait, that's not even answering the question. That's a Kamala Harris word salad. He's asked, well, how does it help affordability when corporations that bear a lot of the tax burden, when they're leaving because of your policies? And he's like, well, we're going to do this by making life affordable. Wait, you're going to help affordability from massive corporations fleeing by making life affordable? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? He's a bimbo. He is a nepo baby bimbo. Just reminder, he's never worked ever. He has literally never held a job ever. And he somehow thinks I just I that this is going to his mom directed his failed rap video. Try to be a rapper that didn't work. So now I guess the next best thing is try to run for mayor in New York City. So his idea to help affordability from corporations leaving New York City is to make life affordable. How? Well, the corruption in the government, you know. He sounds like a moronic college freshman. Well, we're like going to make it like the government's corrupt. It's crazy. We're going to make the life affordable. You know, the government's so corrupt. What what are you talking about? Can you just like stop with the platitudes for a second and actually think and give an answer? That is embarrassing. That's not all of it. Last one. Cut 27. What is he going to say about Thatcher's quote on socialism?
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The city's already in debt. The governor says no to new taxes. Like Margaret Thatcher said, you know, socialism's great until you run out of everyone else's money, other people's money.
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Well, what Andrew Cuomo said is that if he had $959 million, he'd give it to Elon Musk in tax credits because that's exactly what he did. And I bring that up to you to say that it's often a question of whether you have the willingness to spend that money to benefit working-class people, not where that money is in the first place.
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So what would you cut? I don't think he understands what tax credits are. Tax credits, that's... a reduction in the income tax that you owe. So you're not No one's paying you. You're keeping more of what you earn.
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And it's a common thing for cities to use this to generate and attract in businesses. It's like, look, all right, we're going to give you a one-year or a two-year little stay on the taxes that we would require from businesses so you can get up and running, get these jobs going, and then you'll start having to pay taxes. So tax credits are really a benefit to the businesses because government's already overtaxed us.
SPEAKER 03 :
There's a financial illiteracy there. And you know why the people who pay more in taxes get bigger tax breaks? That's a cyclical answer, by the way. I'll say it again. Do you know why the people who pay more in taxes get bigger tax breaks? I just answered it. The people who pay more in taxes get bigger tax breaks because they pay more in taxes. Never forget that the top, what is it, like the top 50% pay like 98%, 99%.
SPEAKER 10 :
More like the top 6% or 7% pays more than 50% of the entire burden.
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And then the bottom pay nothing. It is completely lopsided. It's so disproportionate. The top 1% of taxpayers, they paid the highest average income tax rate. In fact, it's the most. I'm looking at data from 2022. So the average income tax rate in 22 was 14%. The top 1%, they paid actually way over that. They got 23 average rates, six times higher than the 3% average rate. The top 50% paid 97% of all federal income taxes. The bottom 50% only paid, actually they paid less than three.
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Good God.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah.
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And by the way, our progressive tax system needs to be completely looked at. The more you make, the more you pay.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's punitive.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's theft. 10% of my salary, as opposed to 10% of, say, Donald Trump's salary or whatever, his 10% is paying way more. And we're still both paying 10%.
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Honestly, all of the discussion about civil wars over everything other than this is stupid. But if you talk to me about a civil war over this, I'm in. Because we literally went to war for less than this back in the day. It's so bad. This is so bad. So the top 1%, they have a rate six times higher than the average rate. This is math. This is literally the summary of all of the latest federal income tax data. I'm looking at this.
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It punishes success. It punishes success.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, and yes, the top 1% pay... The most. They pay six times higher than everyone else. So what is he talking about? He's an economically illiterate moron. Good grief. And this is what they're paying. And they're willing to pay more.
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In this episode, we delve into the ongoing government shutdown and examine the political maneuvers that keep it at a standstill. Dana Lash provides insights into polling data and strategic messaging that could impact which party shoulders the most blame, both now and in future confrontations. Alongside this, the podcast covers explosive new details on Democrats' plans to challenge John Fetterman due to his bipartisan popularity. As we wrap up with quick news headlines, financial expert guests weigh in on the state of the economy and the marvels—and mishaps—within the world of cryptocurrency.
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and build a consensus is not possible until we get the government operating again we stopped holding we step and so we stopped i'm stuck it very upset about that we stopped holding the american people hostage for these ridiculous political games people see what's going on here we should not have border patrol agents not paid right now because chuck schumer was to pay political games to cover his tail I don't know how much more simply to say that. And every single one of you know that's exactly what's going on. I don't like being mad, Mike. I want to be happy. I want to be the happy warrior, but I am so upset about this. God bless America. We're done. Thanks.
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Nine votes now. Nine votes now. So we're still in a shutdown. That's the latest. That's what you need to know. We're still in the shutdown. Democrat shutdown. That's right. That's right. Thank you. The Democrat shutdown. Welcome to the program, Dana Lash, with you. So they've had their, I don't know when they were having the 10th vote, but had the 9th vote and were still not, because they think that they're going to hold out for something. I don't know what they think they're going to hold out for, but it's not going to work. It's been very clear there's absolutely no reason why they cannot just vote for what they have passed and voted. I'm so damn tired of talking about it, too. I know you guys are tired of hearing about it. This is the crazy thing. And this I mean, ultimately, what I think the right needs to be very careful. Republicans need to be very careful because there's going to be a lot of opportunities to do things to take. You know, we're talking about the tariffs with paying like the WIC stuff and all that. You also want to be careful in that you don't give the left any talking points about... Because they are desperately looking for something coming up for their No Kings thing. They're still having that, right? The No Kings thing this weekend? Yeah. So we want to be careful with all of that stuff. Now, that being said, this... Issue of people getting paid, etc. All of that comes... I mean, this is... I told you guys this the last time we had this fight, that we were going to be doing this again coming up in fall. We would be doing it again coming up in fall, and here we are. And we're going to have to do it again in another three months. I'm so sorry, but we are. Because they just cannot... pass a budget. Now, one of the other issues with this is that right now, Republicans are enjoying polling that really absolves them of any sort of blame because it's true. It's not there. I mean, it really isn't there. It's not their shutdown, but that's not going to last forever. You know how it is when voters get upset about When they're upset, they're going to start blaming. They're going to start looking for more places to place blame. And that's going to start extending to some GOP. But as long as GOP keep the messaging on this, I think that they're going to be able to insulate themselves. But there is a new poll that's out. And it is, I'm pulling this up right now for you. And this has been two weeks now that we've been doing this. Associated Press, who's winning the blame game over the shutdown? Here's what a new AP and ORC poll shows. And now 6 and 10, they're saying that It's a it's starting to grow and that Republicans are earning a bit of responsibility for the shutdown. Now, the majority is still Democrats. Fifty four percent, according to this Associated Press N.O.R.C. Center for Public Affairs Research Survey. They say that 54 percent blame Democrats in Congress. But what's growing are the number of U.S. adults who are now starting to give some of that blame to Republicans. And this is why messaging, we've got to be so careful. We have to be so careful with this. Very careful. So this is one of the things we're going to be talking about today. So welcome to the radio show. We don't have video today because Juan's not in. And Juan is our video guy extraordinaire. So we have no way, unfortunately, to do video for the radio program. And we're going to come back to this with the shutdown. There's just a bunch of other stuff to get through. But I'm just warning you on this. The survey that's coming out, this, I mean, they're wanting... The tax credits, they're wanting a trillion in additional spending, the whole nine yards. So this... And by the way, that, I think, anger at the inaction, this is kind of starting to grow a little bit with independence. That's kind of where it's really starting to tick up. So they've really, really got to get on the messaging with this. So that's... That's one of the things we're keeping our eye on. And by the way, as soon as we're able to get the other stream up for audio, we'll make sure that we let you guys know that. But again, apologies on that. Unfortunately, it's what we got for you today. Some of the other stuff as well that we're juggling here and we're keeping an eye on. Daggers are out for John Fetterman. You knew this was coming. I think, Kane, did we joke about this actually? Like a A few weeks ago, we were like, man, when are they going to come for Fetterman? I swear, I think we were talking about that. Now, we need to talk about winning the lottery, Kane, since that came true. Democrats, via Axios, they came out with a story that they're plotting to go after Fetterman. They want to go after Fetterman. The scoop is that they're maneuvering to... They're looking to primary him. Now, the... Fetterman flipped that Republican seat. He's very, very popular with Pennsylvanian voters. And it is... I mean, he's very popular with them. I don't think that they're going to be able to do that. And I think it'll probably cost them some influence to try. Because he's got... I mean, he's very popular with independents. He's very popular with... I mean, Democrats and Republicans even find him. I want to be careful, not inoffensive, but not because they, you know, they find him offensive. They they they think that he's, you know, kind of one of the good ones, so to speak. This is really dumb. Considering what Democrats are doing, by the way, in Virginia, this is really stupid. That Democrats would consider doing this. This is the problem with this party. They absolutely just throw out every single common sense, like moderate, etc. They throw all of this out. They always go after these moderates. Every time. So, now... I don't know who they're going to get to primary him. Like I said, he's super popular. But all of the challengers are already trying to go at him. I mean, it's pretty... He's got a couple of years on the clock still in the seat. But they're already trying to drum up potential challengers. And... I don't know. Remember how hard they defended him when he had his stroke in 2022? And then he wasn't even able to campaign. Remember how it was just like there was only one guy campaigning? It was Oz that was campaigning at the time. And Oz lost. I think I think it would have been a different outcome if an actual Republican, an actual conservative had been running instead of Oz. But honestly, I I don't I Federman may be better than Oz. I think that, you know, people got lucky, to be honest with it. I think people got lucky because Oz is I mean. I get really I like American born people in Congress. That's just me. And I don't care how it sounds. That's just me. I like people born in the United States in high in elected positions in our government. That's it. So I think we kind of we got lucky with that. But Democrats, because he's a moderate. He's a moderate. They got to go after him. They've run out every single moderate, every single moderate. Like, for instance, listen to this. This is one of the reasons why they hate him. Cut 21 cane. Check this out.
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that's why shutting the government is is really what the democratic party wants to do and i follow country then party and it's the wrong thing for the country in a period of chaos i refuse to vote to shut our government down i absolutely would love to have I would love to have a conversation about extending the tax credits for health care. Absolutely. But I would remind everybody, too, this was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at the end of the year. This is not something taken from by the Republicans. They were designed to expire.
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Yeah, they were. I mean, he's explaining it right there. Cut 22. He's telling on his own party. This is why they're mad at him. But he's being honest with the voters. I mean, what's more important? You know, being honest with the voters or kissing butt with your party? I think Democrats are letting that be known. Listen to this. Cut 22.
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That's why that's why shutting the government is is really what the Democratic Party wants to do. And I follow country then party. And it's the wrong thing for the country in a period of chaos. I refuse to vote to shut our government down. I absolutely would love to have. I would love to have a conversation about extending the tax credits for health care. Absolutely. But I would remind everybody, too, this was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at the end of the year. This is not something taken from by the Republicans. They were designed to expire. Now let's have a conversation to extend it and not shut our government down.
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He's being honest about it. He's being honest about it. Just got to say. Yeah. So I I don't know how this is going to I don't know how this is going to work out. But we're going to we'll see who they get to pry to primary him. We'll see who they get to primary him. As we move our partners that help bring you the program. It is the folks over at WebRoot. WebRoot wants to make sure that you are say that you're surfing the Web safely. Honestly, there are so many people out there, and it's sad, but this is unfortunately the way the world works now. It's never been easier ever to go and steal somebody's, whether you're going after their finances, their identification, their identity, whatever it is. They're very sophisticated in how they operate, and this is why you need to make sure that you're protected. WebRoot can help you do that. They have the tools necessary. You would rather have these options, these arrows in your quiver than not, and WebRoot makes it possible. So everything, name it, they have it. Whether it's a built-in firewall, web threat shield, identity protection that covers not just you but your kids and your parents because, I mean, everybody's a sandwich generation anymore. Real-time antivirus protection, which blocks emerging threats, malware, ransomware, phishing, scams, the whole nine yards. You also have $1 million in expense reimbursement for identity theft. advanced dark web monitoring, all of it. And this is a company that has over 25 years of trusted protection, crazy, amazing customer retention rate as well. And super fast, lightning fast scans and installs. Minimal hard drive space required. Protect yourself when you are online. Not just you, but your kids, your parents, your whole family. And it's very easy to do. Get 60% off of WebRoot's total protection at WebRoot.com slash Dana. That's 60% off, but only through WebRoot.com slash Dana.
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I gotta be honest, this seems like a big problem. PayPal's crypto partner minted a whopping $300 trillion worth of stablecoins in what it called a technical error. Why can't these technical errors ever happen to me? Why are we always left out, Cain? I mean, that would be great. There aren't even enough dollars in global circulation, notes CNBC, to back it. That would literally require, not theoretically, but really require more than double of the world's estimated total GDP. It's insane. And they said Paxos mistakenly minted the stable coins as part of an internal transfer before it then immediately identified the error and burned off the excess PYUSD. That's what they said in a social media statement. That makes me... See, this is why people... question not like crypto i've got to be honest with you it's why this stuff like this i'm just saying just saying uh this 75 percent americans report soaring prices now granted this is from the guardian which is a british turd of a publication but inflation it's still a reality well we're not going to biden this stuff there's still pessimism about the economy and honestly i'm And regardless of, you know, who they voted for on the right, people are pretty divided as to whether or not, you know, the economy is going to hold. Now, the president says that there's virtually no inflation. There are there is some. There's a new Harris poll showing that Americans are still reporting soaring inflation. A lot of people are pretty pessimistic about the economy. I know Kane saying let Trump cook. Are you going to say what? What? What?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think what they're mistaking are these companies responding to what they believe the tariffs will do. And so companies are trying to protect themselves. Customers may see a little increase in price, but we're talking about actual inflation. It's not really there. It's way down.
SPEAKER 19 :
There are certain things that are more. That is for sure. And and some of it is because, I mean, we really could, like, for instance, construction costs, Jiminy Christmas. But that's also because we don't have a lot of those resources here domestically. And that's a huge problem with it. But it's going to be harder to create them domestically if we can't get a handle on the pricing. You know, Hegseth, his plane made an emergency landing in the UK. I've never heard. I'm sure this happens on planes, but I've never heard about it before. They had a crack in the windshield. That seems like a problem. There was a crack in the aircraft's windscreen. It was a Boeing C-32A, military version of the 757. It was going to D.C. from Brussels because he was attending NATO meetings. They declared an emergency over the Atlantic Ocean and they ended up having to land briefly at The Milden, RAF Milden Hall, a Royal Air Force station in Suffolk, Suffolk, England, excuse me. And even though it's RAF, it supports a lot of USAF operations. So they, not a big deal. They're like, not a big deal. Don't nobody freak out. It's not the end of the world. It's just sometimes this happens. Lifting weights is kind of like taking probiotics, says this headline that looks suspiciously like it was written by Kane. Resistance training may yield an unexpected side effect, a healthier gut. Well, you know what? Working out just generally, Yeah. And a washing machine for humans that rinses your entire body inside of a giant pod and even plays movies for you while you wait. We are living in a WALL-E world. No, I'm not getting in a washing pod. That's just, it's called a shower. You know what this is? It's a soup capsule. This looks gross. I just, you sit in it and then it sprays. Does it like part your backside to wash you there too? Like when, where does it stop? Does it tweet? I mean, I'm not I wouldn't be surprised. And a study says people hit their functional peak around age 60. Although for the left, I think it's dramatically younger. Stick with us. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends at Chapter. Chapter is a partner that you can trust that will walk you through all of the craziness with the quote unquote Medicare enrollment season, which you hear over and over and over again. Now, with chapter, they're going to get you squared away. It's a partner that you can trust. They are salaried. They do not work on commission and they advocate for you and not the insurance company. Medicare plans change every year, you see. So if you're unhappy with your plan, you have got to check what's coming for 2026. And failing to review your options could mean losing the coverage you depend on. So you need to call Chapter and have them partner with you on this. They review every plan across the country, and they ensure that you are not overpaying. And on average, they save people over $1,000 a year. And Chapter stands out. They have a track record of resolving this for people. And it can feel like a hassle, but look, you don't want the calls and the emails and the mailers. That's more of a hassle than working with chapter to check your options quickly in under 20 minutes. And if your current plan is still the best fit, then you're all set. If not, they'll help you switch. No gimmicks, no pressure, just honest advice from experts who know Medicare inside and out. Dial pound 250 and say the words, my Medicare. Medicare is too important, so don't risk it. Work with a partner you can trust, and that's chapter. Dial pound 250 and say the words, my Medicare.
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the dana show podcast your fast funny and informative news companion for those always on the move subscribe on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcasts are you saying that senator schumer should not be worried about a primary challenge from you i mean all right no let me jump in on this one let me this is see this is what we're talking about that's exactly what we're talking about you have a country that is falling apart
SPEAKER 08 :
We're at a housing crisis, a health care crisis, an education crisis, massive income and wealth inequality. A corrupt campaign finances them. And the media says, oh, you're going to run. What are you going to run for? Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
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There's the House Speaker and President Trump and the Vice President saying it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Pardon? Of course, they're saying it to deflect attention away from the real issue. Exactly. And here, let me tell you what the real issue is. Let's see if CNN talks about it. We're living in the richest country in the history of the world, right? Yeah, you have three houses. All right, you tell me why we're the only nation not to guarantee health care to all people. The only nation not to guarantee paid family and medical leave. Why we have a $7.25 an hour minimum wage. Why we have 800,000 people sleeping out on the street. Why we have a president who denies the reality of climate change. Why we have oligarchs on top who have more and more power every day. Let's talk about that issue.
SPEAKER 19 :
You are an oligarch, dude. You've got three houses. Kane, have you ever been invited to go and visit Bernie Sanders' one of his three homes?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not a one of them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Really?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not a one.
SPEAKER 19 :
I haven't either. That's kind of weird. I mean, you know, because he says he's not an oligarch, but he's got houses like an oligarch has. And... he's i mean he's got some nice properties he's got a little lakeside holiday home in vermont oh it's right there on the lake he's got the uh burlington colonial home and it's their primary residence that he's got the row house in dc he paid cash for his third house yeah like sweet sweet cash These aren't like little bitty properties either.
SPEAKER 15 :
He's never had a private sector job in his life. Where does all his money come from?
SPEAKER 19 :
That's so crazy. That's a great question. But we can't ask because he says nobody cares about stuff like that. You know, because it's we got health care for the old people that they ruined. And that's why we're even talking about this in the first place. I'm telling you. So welcome again back to the program. I didn't last with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. And this they they were. Why were they so hysterical? I mean, they were screaming. Both of them were screaming. She's the younger female version of him. She really is the younger female version of him. I was thinking about this in context of media. Did you guys read about NBC? They're having 150 layoffs. They're gutting black, Latino, Asian-American and LGBTQ plus. They put the plus there because there's like a host of letters and numbers that fall. I don't even know what we talked about that yesterday. The verticals focused on those issues. But now, apparently, this is the headline and this is from The Wrap. It says that it's a broader shift in media away from diversity efforts. That's not what it is. Newsrooms, for people to argue that newsrooms weren't already diverse, I think you're a racist if you are arguing that newsrooms weren't diverse before the alphabet, namely the T-Mafia. You know what I mean? If you did not realize that there was already a diverse representation of people in the news, then you are a racist because you ignored them. You ignored and marginalized them and only began really paying attention when it became trendy. And that's the truth of it. This wasn't about diversity. This was about critical race theory. And critical race theory, you can say DEI, all of it is really critical race theory. DEI is basically a subset of CRT. I've written and talked about CRT for a good night, like 15 years now. And to recap critical race theory, in fact, you guys remember way back, this was right about the time that Andrew Breitbart passed away. And maybe you guys remember Do you remember the video that he had talked about when it was Barack Obama hugging somebody? You guys remember that? There was this video. I was on CNN about it. I had to go out when I worked for Andrew at the time. I was the editor of Big Journalism before everything got combined. They were able to obtain this video of Barack Obama on campus. And he was friends and very close with this professor named Derrick Bell. And this is when he was a law student and it was at Harvard, Harvard Law. And he had spoken, there was a video that we had where he was in, he was at a rally there and he had given him a hug and he had, they had done, spoken in defense of him and all this stuff. And this was in 1990, Obama spoke in support of Bell at this, they had a protest at Harvard and they were demanding diversity on the faculty. Now, all of this whole protest was started By this Derek Bell. Now, who is Derek Bell? Derek Bell is one of the biggest proponents of critical race theory in the United States. And critical race theory comes from Marxism. It's a tenant of Marxism, Frankfurt School of Marxism. I mean, it is designed to either supplant or work parallel to economics in terms of dividing the classes. So where economic Marxism would focus on dividing people by finances, income, etc., Critical race theory is all about dividing by race. And intersectionality, where you check off all these boxes of things that you believe have been woefully done wrong to you, whether it's race or gender or whatever, when you have all of these things, that's what intersectionality is. That is a phrase from critical race theory. And critical race theory, they are the people who promoted race as a social construct. And at the very heart of critical race theory is the idea of systemic racism. That is like the core belief of CRT. Now, why is that? The goal of CRT is to destabilize societies. Not just with economic means as with what most people normally think of Marxist narrative warfare, but critical race theory is about destabilizing societies amongst people socially promoting actual – I mean literally promoting segregation. That's why it's so – equity instead of equality, that's from critical race theory. DEI is just an action of critical race theory. That lends itself to the hiring practices and the changing of your employee structure. So back to the point, the video where Barack Obama was hugging Derrick Bell, One of the reasons that we came out with that was because we were talking about, this is back in 2012, critical race theory. It was like the last video that Andrew had published. And it was the last story rollout that he directed before he passed away. And it was about trying to inform people about critical race theory and warning them of what was to come. And we were out there warning people about this and warning this. You know, Derrick Bell started this at Harvard and it went from there. And it was Barack Obama that helped mainstream it amongst the students. So that's why it was so incredibly important. And a lot of people didn't really understand it at the time. A lot of people came out and defended him in 2012 when we started our expose of this. So the whole point is this critical race theory. This is what they were using. As a means to determine hiring in newsrooms. And you guys saw this. You guys saw everything. Whether it was a school board fight. You guys saw all of this. All of this unfolded. All of it unfolded. And it was all because you had Derrick Bell. Who was a Marxist. Barack Obama who was a Marxist. And Obama mainstreamed it amongst the student body. And to this point with these newsrooms. So the newsrooms, they were all about trying to... They wanted to really promote stories through that CRT lens. And so this is where you get into the hiring of people who maybe didn't have the resume or the merit. But that's where intersectionality, remember the CRT term, that's where the intersectionality comes in. If you were black, if you were gay, if you were lesbian, if you were trans, if you were whatever. The more of those intersectional boxes that you could check, that was a substitute in the context of critical race theory. That is a substitute for merit. And so that's how a lot of these hiring practices went. So now here we are today. NBC News is eliminating its teams that specifically only covered those issues. You realize that they had like a handful of staffers for specifically alphabet plus issues. Do you really need that many staff? What in the world? I mean, you have news and then you have things that you're trying to make news. So I think that their insistence at trying to explain that this is a shift away from quote unquote diversity efforts. This is a shift away from propaganda. So the NBC laying off 150 people, that's pretty big. But that's not all. They also have, in addition to that, you have the Los Angeles Times. Same thing. They're trying to divert, well, undiversify, I guess you could say. The media is changing. And then, of course, you have the CBS thing. You have the CBS thing where they acquired the free press. And by the way, those are the people and I'll talk about this more. That's the entity with which I'm doing the debate coming up after the election. I'm debating Alan Dershowitz in Chicago on gun control and the free press and Barry Weiss. She's moderating the free press is hosting it. You know, CBS acquired the CBS Paramount acquired them and a major deal. And she's going to be heading up the news and political department at CBS. And a lot of people in the media are livid. There are all the all those old school lefties that were really trying to incorporate CRT into every aspect of the newsroom. It affected the story. I mean, you've got to realize critical race theory affected everything from how police staffed. to the stories that you watched on TV, to the things that you read online, the movies that you watched, the music you listened to. It kicked off the behavioral credit thing that they were trying to do with banks. I mean, this literally spawned, since 2012, a host of things. And now it's changing in the media because the media realizes the way that they were doing it is not working anymore. And this is a huge shift in media. And remember, Barry Weiss was run out of The New York Times. And what's funny is she checks all these these intersectional boxes. Right. She's a lesbian. She's a woman. She's Jewish. You would think that that would be considered a protected class with the left. But all of those intersectional boxes are rendered irrelevant. If you are not a far left progressive, it's not even good enough to be an independent. It's not even good enough, as you can see with John Fetterman to be a moderate. If you are not far left, you are persona non grata. Intersectionality is no longer applicable to you. So this is changing, and this is going to be a huge shift in the media environment. Coming up, a documentary revealing a government cover-up of non-human intelligence is set for release. You guys know, got to talk about the aliens. And also, I'm going to tell you something. That story about the Politico texts... We discussed it yesterday. Lorraine has a deep dive on it right now over at Substack. This is just the beginning. And I want to warn people, this is a sign of some really bad stuff that is bubbling up. And I think people need to be honest and they need to have a real discussion about this or we're going to be dealing with some problems here real soon. And it's not going to be problems of our creation. 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I think that we should have more Republicans on the show, but they don't want to come on. They're scared of us. It's like Marjorie Taylor Greene says that she finds the Republican men afraid of powerful women. Well, that may be true of all the political persuasions. But if they would come on this show, they can explain to us what they're trying to do to this.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, that's not true. I've guest hosted it twice now. I've guest hosted The View before. We're not afraid to come on. It's just they don't invite a lot of Republicans on. That's the problem. The problem is, is that they will only allow one Republican to have the seat and then everybody else has to be a progressive. That's the issue. They want to control and make sure that progressives always outnumber conservatives by like four to one. So I know for a fact because I've been there. So what Joy Behar is saying is a straight up lie. They're the ones who were chicken. They're the chickens in all this. And that's just the truth of it. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're rolling towards the second hour. And a couple of things to discuss. And I also understand if a lot of people don't pay attention to some of this stuff. Because a lot of it is just inter-party jostling. And I think that one of the big issues that we're going to have to discuss, and if you guys don't think it's a problem, I'm here to tell you it is. And rarely do I ever kind of sound an alarm on stuff that happens within the GOP. I think the last time that I did, it was... Actually, right around Parkland, when there were a lot of Republicans that were about to cave on a universal background check bill. And that's actually still remains my biggest. I like Marco Rubio, secretary of state. But I also remember when he caved on stage and agreed to red flag laws and universal background checks right in front of my eyes. And at that time, there were a couple of bills in committee. And the last time I sounded the alarm about stuff on the left or on the right was that saying, warning people, look, there are some Republicans that are literally getting ready right now to pass this stuff out of committee. And if they do, they're going to get it passed. And it's a huge issue. There's another huge issue. There are you. Maybe you hear the phrase the woke right. And it does exist because there are people who make idols of race and ethnicities, just like you see on the left. It is a very real thing. And I think that these texts that Politico obtained and published, this is just a drop in the bucket. And this is just the entry into a broader conversation that we absolutely have to have about what it means when you lose the conservative principle because you're drowning in the populism. We're going to talk about that coming up. You don't want to miss it. Stick with us. for your cell phone service isn't going towards far left stuff. It's not going towards things like CRT or DEI or any of this other nonsense. And you're also getting the best service that you can get. They have all the access All three major U.S. networks. You're not getting a compromise on quality for your values either. It's easy to switch. Fast activation by their 100% U.S.-based customer support team. And you get nationwide coverage you can trust. You can also keep your number, keep your cell phone, the current phone that you have, or you can switch it out. I mean, it's entirely up to you. Visit patriot mobile dot com slash Dana or call 972 Patriot to get started today. Use promo code Dana because you'll get a free month of service on top of it. Veterans and first responders get 15 percent off of their bill every month. Switch today. Patriot mobile dot com slash Dana promo code Dana 972 Patriot.
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J.D. Vance dismissed the messages as just a college group chat. Can you imagine if it was a group of people on the left saying some things? If he'd say the same thing, a college group chat? Does J.D. Vance really think glorifying Hitler and gas chambers is justice?
SPEAKER 19 :
Good grief. So this is all about the politico text thing, which Democrats are. There's a there's a couple of angles with this. I want you to buckle up and get cozy. I'm not totally not kidding. Buggle up and get cozy, guys. Dana Lash here with you. The chat is at Rumble. Juan is out today, so we don't have the resources to bring you video when he is out. So send all questions to the first. Also, but you can get the chats at Rumble, though. These texts, there is a great piece. If you want background on this, Those of you who are subscribers to my Substack chapter and verse, a contributor and the moderator of the chat, Lorraine, has a really great deep dive on it. And if you have not read, just so you can get an idea of what it is, first, what is it, and then why does it matter? So to start with, Politico had this yesterday. They had this hit piece yesterday. And they published a bunch of a bunch of these text messages. Now, these are people that are members of the Young Republican National Federation. They're all young professional Republicans. Some of them are in their 30s. They got a couple of 40 year olds in there. So young is doing some heavy lifting in some respects. They're grown ass adults. There were 2,900 pages of a leaked Telegram message group. And they said it was just, well, a lot of the texts which were published, I mean, they're bad. They look bad. Now, I think looking at them, because Politico wanted to strip the context away, Looking at them, it looks like it's a bunch of racist anti-Semites, racist, misogynistic anti-Semites. Like some of the some of the texts that they had that they had put in there were they said texts like I love Hitler or everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber. I'm ready to watch people burn now. Oh, he hates the Jews. These are some of the texts. They love the watermelon people. These are the things that were in here. it's bad. I mean, I can't even say some of the other stuff in there. They were talking about rape and everything else. There's a lot of stuff in there. Now, again, there's going to be a lot of nuances here, so buckle up. This, I think, is a combination of a bunch of stuff. First off, I don't know everybody in this group. There were a lot of people in it. Do I think some of them are probably racist or some of them are probably whatever? Probably. Are some of them in just trying to be edgy or trying to engage or participate in, you know, dark or humor noir? Or are they being sarcastic? Yeah, sure. Here's the thing, though. And I mentioned this yesterday. This is not a civil liberties issue. When you are a professional, and again, I think the word young in this is doing some heavy lifting because when you're 38, I'm sorry, but you're young if the person who's describing you as young as 80. When you are a grown adult and you are a professional and you are engaging in an activity that is an extension of your profession, it is smart if you act professional. That's the whole point of this. It's smart if you act professional. It's smart to not put stuff that you have to defend into a text group. Because there is nothing, people, nothing that stays quiet. If you put it out into the ether of the internet, then it's going to stay out there. Nothing stays quiet. So that's number one. Number two is there is a real problem with some of the stuff bubbling up on the right. And anyone who says that there isn't is not in the trench. I'm sorry, but you are not. And I don't really mean that I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for anyone not noticing it. It is a real thing. I think it's stupid to compare it to the Jay Jones thing. Let me tell you something about what Schumer is trying to argue here. They are trying to justify Jay Jones, the Democrat who's running for attorney general in Virginia, which really has nothing to do with us. But they desperately need something to justify their refusal to condemn him. Jay Jones, if you remember, was talking about another delegate saying that he wanted to kill him and then talking about shooting the guy's kids while his wife watched them die in her arms. That's a serious thing. That's not dark humor. It's not sarcasm. It's not any of that. That is him being a nut job, murderous, crazy person. Jay Jones has a major problem with anger. And he's got a repeat behavioral pattern of this. So that's fact. Democrats never condemn. They never condemn when they should. And this is why they lose. But it's not comparable to this. The only way that it's comparable to this is if Republicans don't clean up their own. Like I said, there's a problem with this. Some of you guys have no idea what's coming. You have no idea. Whenever I post, whenever I have on a Jewish guest on my program, whenever I post anything about Israel, you guys would not believe the comments that I get. Sure, some of them are bots, but a lot of them aren't. Some of the comments I've shown publicly, some I've literally had to refer to law enforcement. It is that bad. I don't think you realize it. I have seen it real life here in my town. I have literally had to end associations with people because of it. They are no different to me than the left. They are collectivists. Let's be really clear about this. The people who behave like this, you should not feel at all bad in saying that your behavior is garbage and your words are garbage because they're not like you. They're not like you because they're not conservative. They're not like you because they are not moored by the same principles that you are moored by. They are Derrick Bell creations. CRT creations. They make idols of race. They make idols of ethnicities. They make idols of religious affiliations. Just like the godless left. They are no different than the left. And that is why I have zero problem in calling it out. Because they are not like you and there is no uniting with people who do this. I don't unite with people who demonstrate leftist behavior at all. And that's what this is. It is leftist behavior. And there's no excuse for it. I mean, some of the comments in the texts and then some of the discussion that I've seen online is just staggering. It really is. But it is collectivism. Just like you have people who make idols with Islamism or with trans or anything else. And I'll add this. There are people out there who want to shame you for justifiably criticizing this. They act like you are a gatekeeper. Let me explain something. You're not gatekeeping. You're not passing judgment. You are using your scripturally dictated Christian discernment. You are using your discernment. And it is a good thing to use your discernment to call out people who claim to be on your side. Who put on the veneers of the American flag and everything else. But then they make idols of all of these other ancillary issues, just like the left does. So, yes, it is a good thing to use your Christian discernment to call that out. No one's going to call God a gatekeeper. No one calls good people using discernment gatekeepers. That is what discernment is. And their inability to recognize it just further demonstrates how far from God they are. So let's get that straight right out of the gate. These texts are problematic. I don't want to unify with anybody like this. And a lot of them, I mean, one of the problems, so as you read in the post that Lorraine has on Substack, the reason that these texts got linked in the first place is because you had a douchebag fight. Two douchebags were fighting over influence. In New York. That's what it is. One of them is now at the FCC. In fact, the guy who leaked the text to Politico is reportedly leaked the text to Politico. He's with the FCC. Gavin Wax. Not a great guy. And he's with the FCC right now. Do you want someone like that overseeing or doing anything with free speech within the government that does stuff like this that gets so petty that they fight with other people to the point where they will use the leftist media that they profess to hate as a way to go after people that they claim are on their side? I didn't think so. Again, that's where your discernment is coming into play. It's a power play between two dudes and now it has imperiled the Republican Party. You calling this out, and this is where they're gaslighting you again, you calling this out isn't the problem. Them doing this is the problem. Now, I'll say one, I got, there's more because we got to talk about the J.D. Vance aspect of this. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Russians are flooding the streets, singing band songs, calling for Putin to be overthrown. Oh, no one tell Tucker. A large crowd. No, don't. I don't think Tucker saw this. But look at their supermarkets and the trains are on time. A large crowd joined street musicians in Russia as they belted out a song banned for being extremist with lyrics calling for Putin to be overthrown. There were a lot of them in the streets over that, by the way. Also, this. Oh, here we go. No one's policing Yellowstone. Oh, no. A bear jammed traffic in Yellowstone. Oh, my gosh. Busy bears because they're getting ready to hibernate, right? So it's crazy. So they call them bear jams. I have to admit, my first thought was, is this a marmalade that they're selling? And then I was like, are they like playing instruments, the bears?
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It's the name of my playlist on Spotify.
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I wouldn't say that. You're not a bear, though. I was thinking, yeah. The music is... This is going sideways fast. Okay, so apparently the bears get close to roads and everyone slows down and there's a big traffic jam and they call them bear jams. And so now they're like, well, because the government shut down, we got bear jams everywhere. Bear jams, bear jams. All the bear jams everywhere. So just, you know, FYI. Don't pet them, right? Don't try to feed them because you'll get mauled. No one will help you. Amazon's going to hire 250,000 holiday workers nationwide and pay up to $23 an hour. So delivering them packages. So they said that it's all new regular full and part-time employees will earn an average of $23 per hour with benefits. Seasonal employees can earn more than $19 per hour. So they're anticipating some purchasing. Honestly, it's so much easier than it is fighting traffic and going to the stores. A woman has her dad's ashes tattooed on her arm. Gross. And then realizes something has gone horribly wrong. They said that... Oh, man. This is... Why do people... There's better ways. You know, you can have them turned into a diamond, you know, if it was really important to do so. But she had her, she tattooed her late father's ashes into her arm and then something went horribly wrong with the inking. And the story takes 5,000 paragraphs before it gets into, her body was rejecting it. And so it messed up her tattoo. There you go. It's a British newspaper. No, actually this was Newsweek. Oh, good heavens. A wet microburst damages a Longview business home. What? Sounds like an offensive tactic in dark tide. A wet microburst, which is not a tornado. Okay. What is it? It's to blame for the massive winds that hit a small part of Longview on Sunday. They said it looked like a war zone. So they had wind gusts that peaked at 80, 85 miles per hour. They said it sounded like a freight train, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. No, it's not a tornado, they said. It sounds just like a tornado sounds like, but don't you dare. It identifies as a wet microburst. So there's wet microburst and dry microburst. And they usually have significant precipitation. And it does not identify as a tornado. Just like, you know, some dudes want to identify as chicks, right? And so you start with a thunderstorm and blah, blah, blah. I stopped caring. We got a lot more on the way. We're going to continue this discussion because now we got the VP in on it. Stick with us. All Family Pharmacy is a family-owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications that you need when you need them the most. With over 200 essential medications, including antibiotics, antivirals, ivermectin, emergency kits, and so much more, they have you covered for everything from daily prescriptions to even biohacking support. Right now, they've lowered prices on ivermectin and minbendazole by up to 25%, starting at just $2 a capsule. Plus, save an extra 10% using code GENERAL. Dana 10. Each order includes a doctor's prescription, so there's no hassle or middleman. And as flu season approaches, now's the time to stock your medicine cabinet with essentials like Tamiflu, antibiotics, and vitamins to help keep you and your family healthy. And beyond basics, All Family Pharmacy offers biohacking products like NAD+, methylene blue, all kinds of stuff to boost energy, focus, immunity, the whole nine yards. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 to save 10% today. Don't wait. Be ready for flu season with All Family Pharmacy. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10.
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by focusing on what kids are saying in a group chat, grow up, I'm sorry, focus on the real issues, don't focus on what kids say in group chats. But there's another angle to this that I just have to be honest about. I'm like an old guy at this point, I'm 41 years old, I have three kids. I grew up in a different world, right? Where not most of the stupid things that I did when I was a teenager and a young adult, they're not on the internet. I'm gonna tell my kids, especially my boys, don't put things on the internet. Be careful with what you post. If you put something in a group chat, assume that some scumbag is gonna leak it in an effort to try to cause you harm or cause your family harm. But the reality is that kids do stupid things, especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes like that. These aren't kids do. And I really don't want us to grow up in a country where a kid telling a stupid joke, telling a very offensive, stupid joke is caused to ruin their lives. And at some point, we're all going to have to say enough of this BS. We're not going to allow the worst.
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So let me interject here. This is Vice President J.D. Vance, and he's wrong. Because he's referring to these texts, these politico texts. First off, I'm not going to live in a country where we call middle-aged people kids as a way to excuse their stupid behavior. I won't tolerate it when they try to do it with Hunter Biden. And I'm not going to tolerate it when we're talking about literal middle-aged politicos who are in their 30s and 40s who run off their mouths in texts. And they're not smart enough to realize that they shouldn't commit some of this stuff to actual writing. We're not going to sit here and pull a Hunter Biden and say that, oh, well, these are kids. They're not kids. They're literally middle age. They're older than some of you listening. I mean, for crying out loud, some of the ages, 38, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42. That is not a kid. You're not a kid at that point. So can we stop infantilizing people as a method of excusing behavior and as a way to dissuade people from using their Christian discernment to call out bad behavior when it is exposed? We're better than this. We're smarter than this because we're not the left. So let's not adopt their tactics. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the bottom of this second hour and it's a real issue. It is a very, very real issue. And Democrats are trying to weaponize it. This is a thing that is different from the Jay Jones thing. Now, as I mentioned with Jay Jones, I think that he has serious... I think he actually is dangerous. I think Jay Jones probably could physically harm someone. I legitimately do. The... whole issue with jay jones is he was talking about an elected official in a text message and he was talking about actually shooting them and killing them literally like bullets in the head that's those were his words so that's number one number two uh well and then of course don't forget he talked about killing the kids too and uh having the mother watch her children die I mean, that's a big thing. And he was enraged and he has a clear pattern of behavior with us. And he's also running to become the Attorney General of Virginia. A guy who threatens without, he's not joking. He's talking about murdering his opponents. And he wants to be the attorney general of Virginia. That's a major problem. Now, this whole issue of, you know, telling people to grow up and focus on this is a real issue to focus on because the right is getting taken in and not everybody is sorry. Not everybody's bright enough to see it. You all are, but not everyone else is. There is a coordinated effort to divide the right along the lines specifically of Israel. It is a real thing. I've been watching it happen. I haven't even talked about some other issues that we actually have seen personally in our lives that one of the reasons why I'm like, this is a moment, one of those rare moments where you got to kind of hit the button for the siren. Because it's very problematic. And it comes down to people making idols of a million other different things. And that's the issue. With this, don't tell people to grow up because they're using their Christian discernment. The people who need to grow up are the middle-aged people in chats who say this kind of stuff that imperil the whole damn party. That's who needs to grow up. The people who need to grow up are the people who think that that in any way is is passes for wit. That kind of stuff doesn't pass for wit. If you can have an inbred backwards, you know, progressive idiot that says this stuff, then don't don't adopt it and then pretend that it in any way is an example of dark, edgy humor. It's not. There is a clear coordinated effort to divide the right to make it easier for progressives to prevail. And all of the people that scream about AIPAC and they scream about Israel and they talk about this other stuff are completely silent, accommodatingly so, when it concerns the Qataris. And there are actual receipts there, by the way. If you want to compare spending from different groups, I've already looked at all of that. Happy to do so. I'll keep you here for hours. Happy to do so. It's a drop in the bucket for what Islamist groups spend. And they're getting a lot with their money. Because, you know, Tommy Robinson was right. You know, if you have Israel that falls, then you're next. The United States is next. Some people, and they include some young men, some young men that my family actually knows that aren't smart enough to see the strategy in this. You want to have, look at it like a satellite that keeps, that fights the enemies that you don't want to fight away from you. When that satellite is no longer there, they will come for you where you live. That's a fact. So that's the strategy of it. But some of these comments that I've been seeing and I'm not joking. We were just talking about having Josh Hammer on to talk about because he's got a lawsuit and talk about this other stuff. The last time I had Josh Hammer on the show, I actually had to disable comments on Instagram, which I've never done before. Because I literally had people that were saying they. These people are not the right. Let me tell you something about these people that sit here and pretend to love Jesus, and they pretend that they're big old Christians. Oh, they're big old Christians. Let me tell you something. If people want to sit here and talk about Nazism, and they want to flirt around with this, do you realize how many Christians the Nazis murdered? Did you know that Auschwitz's Block 17 held tons, hundreds, thousands of Christian clergy? And they murdered hundreds of them. One of them alone, they murdered over 2,000 Christians. You had millions of Christians that were killed. Thousands of Protestant clergy were murdered because they refused to swear loyalty to Hitler. Christian youth groups were forcibly shuttered, and they were replaced with Hitler Youth. In Poland, they went after the churches, not just Catholics either, guys. So spare me the denominational differences for a moment. I don't care. They went after everybody who had a cross. They confiscated Christian lands. They looted Christian homes and Christian buildings. People who do not know this are ignorant. These people who sit here and act like Christ is king and flirt around with this stuff are blasphemy on feet. They went after Christians who wouldn't take crosses out of hospital rooms. It is the height of ignorance to not realize that Nazism, they didn't just target Jewish people. They targeted Jewish people the most. Yeah. But they went after Christians. They went after Christians zealously. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was one. They tried to accuse him of all kinds of things. He was very vocal against the Nazi euthanasia program. They didn't like his theological writings. They hung him. So all the people who sit here and lament Christian persecution, it's very easy for them to gloss over it when they're flirting with Nazism because they think it's trendy. They think it's edgy. You think it's edgy to flirt around with an ideology that would have crucified Christ again? That's what the Nazis would have done. They went after Christians as zealously as Saul. But they never had their moment on the road to Damascus. This is what people are flirting with. This is the ignorance of some of these individuals. And I think it's abhorrent to excuse it by saying these are these people who are literally and I know the ages of a lot of these people. Some of them are never met personally. You're talking about middle age people. Do you think a 38 year old is a kid? Do you think a 41 year old is a kid? You know, people say, quote unquote, young Republicans. And I think that they believe that that means people who are literally 19 or 20. I hate to burst your bubble, but that's not true. Typically, it means under 40. But there are a couple of people. There are a few people in this group that are a little over 40. A lot of them are in their 30s. These aren't kids. These are grown people with mortgages. I don't want to adopt this behavior of the left. I don't want to pretend that this stuff is edgy. This is the stuff that the left does. And this is why the left is losing. The left is losing because people are tired of idols being made of gender and race. And they're tired of all of these things that are not kingdom related being made holy in the eyes of pop culture. They're tired of it. That's why they're fleeing. Why in God's name? Would anybody on the right consider mimicking this? This is a huge issue. And you have every right to use your discernment. In fact, you have a responsibility to use your discernment to call it out. We're having Josh on again Friday. Part of it is because I want to see what happens in social media again. Like I said, a lot of them are bots, but a lot of them aren't. And make no mistake, China adjusts their algorithms on TikTok to keep showing you this stuff. They adjust their algorithms. They buy bot farms. That's why you see all of these rando accounts on social media, on Facebook too. Instagram. X, particularly. And they get on social media and they try to sway public opinion with the veneer of popularity. And they operate under the logical fallacy that an idea is legitimate because a lot of people believe it. And you know that to not be true. But a lot of people succumb to collectivism. We saw that during COVID. That was proven then. You saw it during Black Lives Matter when you had cops taking knees. It was evident then. And that same principle is still evident now. Something wicked this way comes, folks. Consider this the alarm. It is a lot worse than you realize. And this story with Politico is just the entry discussion. We have a lot more on the way as we roll towards Florida man. Hopefully he can save us. We got a lot more on the way as we move our partners that help bring you the program. It's the folks over at super beats, the company human. They were founded out of the UT health science center, and it was built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. Unlike other supplement brands, human is science born, not just science ish. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Alright, so first up here. the man alive i'm telling you some of this stuff does not want to load all right i'm having a little bit of a technical issue so first up i think i had this story before but there is an update to it uh i got a couple so this first story do you guys remember the uh 70 year old who apparently urinated all over ten thousand dollars worth of food at a sam's club oh yeah remember that story So I didn't have this information. Patrick Mitchell, when authorities got there to arrest him, he was taking a nap on the lawn furniture that they had displayed in the middle. You know how they have all the stuff in the middle and they have like the lawn furniture out and sometimes they'll set up the umbrellas and all that. He was under an umbrella that was set up or relaxing on a lounge chair. That would have, and apparently there is cell phone images of him doing the deed. And the reason all this is coming out is because he's now going to court over it, finally. Even though he was originally arrested during the summer, but now the court cases, now he's, the litigations, I don't know what there is to litigate. I mean, you're literally videotaped urinating on 188 cans of Vienna sausages. Oh. And 345 cans of spam. Over $10,000. That's a lot. So anyway, just a little update to that story because I thought it was just hysterical that he's lounging on, you know, lounging on furniture. Let's see. A Central Florida teenager was charged because deputies say he faked an abduction that caused an amber alert. Oh, OK. He's a minor, 17 years old. He apparently faked his abduction. They issued a statewide Amber Alert. And then, well, he wasn't abducted. So he's been charged with presenting false evidence, making a false report of a crime, possession of a firearm. He apparently had a handgun and shooting into a conveyance, according to the press release in the Marion County Sheriff's Office. It seems like the family was kind of in on it as well. We got a lot more on the way. Third hour coming up. Ammo Squared is America's ammunition reserve. It's a worry free solution to collect ammunition for the future and avoid getting caught empty handed. Everybody remembers the panic buying during the lockdown. You guys all remember that nobody could get anything. You don't have to worry about that ever again or with anything else because of Ammo Squared. You can choose from over 70 calibers, set your monthly budget, and Ammo Squared will curate your supply automatically so you can set it, forget it, and ship it when you need it. Everything is securely stored in a climate-controlled facility. Your ammo is fresh and safe until you decide that you want it delivered. There's no minimums. There's no hidden fees. And you get free shipping on orders over $250. And it's great if you're trying out new calibers or you want to top off your training rounds or get ready for whatever else. And it has tons of five-star reviews, over 100,000 members. Your readiness is Ammo Squared's mission. So visit AmmoSquared.com and secure your ammo supply for the future. Don't run out when it counts. Stock up before training and restock after to stay ready. That's AmmoSquared.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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into one that's affordable for each and every New Yorker.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay, and I want to get to that, absolutely. But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?
SPEAKER 20 :
I believe that any future here in New York City is one that we have to make sure that's affordable for all. And as it pertains to Israel and Palestine, that we have to ensure that there is peace. And that is the future that we have to fight for.
SPEAKER 01 :
But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their arms and give up leadership in Gaza?
SPEAKER 20 :
I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety and the fact that anything has to abide by international law. And that applies to Hamas, that applies to the Israeli military, applies to anyone you could ask me about.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. That's not an answer. That isn't an answer. You know, maybe the New York YRs, middle-aged YRs, maybe if they weren't texting so much and doing all of that, they could have maybe put up a bigger fight to this guy because he's leading. He's going to win. He's going to be mayor of New York. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of this third hour. That's Zoran Mamdani, who was on Fox yesterday. I didn't hear a condemnation, Cain, did you? No.
SPEAKER 15 :
And he's the anti-gun character.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Like, what?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, he's anti-gun except for Hamas. He doesn't think Hamas should let, you know, guns for Hamas, but not for you. That's the real truth of it. So he repeatedly, repeatedly refused to say that they should. And that's one of the conditions, you know, the peace deal that Trump outlined, the 20 point peace plan. That's one of the conditions of it. It's absolutely one of the conditions of it. And he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't say it. He wouldn't say that he could not even back like back something back up something that simple, which is a real problem. I don't know. And he's leading. He's leading. Is that in New York? The biggest city really in the world. And he's leading there. He's going to be mayor. And it's going to be horrible. It's going to be so bad. And I think people who vote for him should not be barred from leaving. I think people should be forced to live under what they voted for. Is that I mean, call it tyranny. That's why I'm not running for office ever, because I would make that happen. Let people suffer under the indignity of their own vote. Just crazy. But he would not even say could not even couldn't even do that. Just wow. It's pathetic. And he's going to win. It's crazy, but he's going to win. He couldn't even. And that was just like one part of it. I mean, this this was a train wreck interview. And Martha McCallum's not even a difficult interviewer. He is, he's just, he's so bad. Listen to this. Listen to this audio. Somebody 28, this is cut 28 where he, he talks about the tax levels. If he wins, this is what people are going to pay in tax. Listen.
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So a lot of individuals in this city pay more than 50% of their income in taxes. When you talk about a fair share, how much more than what is the fair share? What's the number?
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I've said that we should increase personal income taxes by 2%.
SPEAKER 01 :
So 52% is fair? And my point is this. Give up more than half of your income.
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If you're making a million dollars in New York City, or more than that, you can afford to pay 2% more. And the reasons you can afford to do so is because that money will be used to better your quality of life as well. Because when I speak to the wealthiest New Yorkers, I hear concerns about the cleanliness of the city, the quality of life in the city, questions of public safety. This money is the money that will be used to deliver on those things so that we can ensure that we have a return on investment for all of the money that we are raising and spending right here.
SPEAKER 19 :
But wait a minute, though. Like what? So it's already they're already the highest taxed one of the highest taxed people in the nation. Why aren't all of those issues met now? Thank you. If you're already paying, people are paying 52% of their paychecks and taxes already, why isn't it working? You already have Democrat leadership. Now you're going to get even worse Democrat leadership. I wish that would have been the follow-up. Well, wait a minute. Why isn't that working now? Over 52% of your paycheck goes to the government in New York. Why is crime out of control? Why are the streets filled with homeless and drug dealers and everything else? Why are they hemorrhaging high earners? Why isn't it working? He's never been asked that question. I thought I was anticipating waiting for that to be the follow-up and it wasn't. I'm like, okay, well. But why not ask him that question? I feel like that's fair to ask. 52%, can you imagine? This is cut 26. He was asked, well, how does it help affordability? Because, you know, you have companies that are fleeing Manhattan. I don't know what they're going to replace that tax revenue with. Listen.
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that JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs have moved major operations to Texas. They've not abandoned New York, but they're hedging their bets on New York because of the increased taxes that they see coming if you become mayor. So when they do that, jobs move out of the city as well. So how does that help affordability if people in the city don't have the jobs that they had that they once had here?
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Well, I'm looking to make this a city that every person chooses, whether they're a business leader or they're someone who works for that business. And the key ways of doing that are actually delivering quality of life, public safety and affordability for each and every person. Because what we're seeing right now is we have a broken status quo. We have a corrupt political system and we have the politicians that sustain that. That's really what's on the ballot is whether New Yorkers want to continue that or that they actually want a city they can afford.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wait, that's not even answering the question. That's a Kamala Harris word salad. He's asked, well, how does it help affordability when corporations that bear a lot of the tax burden, when they're leaving because of your policies? And he's like, well, we're going to do this by making life affordable. Wait, you're going to help affordability from massive corporations fleeing by making life affordable? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? He's a bimbo. He is a nepo baby bimbo. Just reminder, he's never worked ever. He has literally never held a job ever. And he somehow thinks I just I that this is going to his mom directed his failed rap video. Try to be a rapper that didn't work. So now I guess the next best thing is try to run for mayor in New York City. So his idea to help affordability from corporations leaving New York City is to make life affordable. How? Well, the corruption in the government, you know. He sounds like a moronic college freshman. Well, we're like going to make it like the government's corrupt. It's crazy. We're going to make the life affordable. You know, the government's so corrupt. What what are you talking about? Can you just like stop with the platitudes for a second and actually think and give an answer? That is embarrassing. That's not all of it. Last one. Cut 27. What is he going to say about Thatcher's quote on socialism?
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The city's already in debt. The governor says no to new taxes. Like Margaret Thatcher said, you know, socialism's great until you run out of everyone else's money, other people's money.
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Well, what Andrew Cuomo said is that if he had $959 million, he'd give it to Elon Musk in tax credits because that's exactly what he did. And I bring that up to you to say that it's often a question of whether you have the willingness to spend that money to benefit working class people, not where that money is in the first place.
SPEAKER 19 :
So what would you cut? I don't think he understands what tax credits are. Tax credits, that's... A reduction in the income tax that you owe. So you're not. No one's paying you. You're keeping more of what you earn.
SPEAKER 15 :
And it's a common thing for cities to use this to generate and attract in businesses. It's like, look, all right, we're going to give you a one-year or a two-year little stay on the taxes that we would require from businesses so you can get up and running, get these jobs going, and then you'll start having to pay taxes. So tax credits are really a benefit to the businesses because government's already overtaxed us.
SPEAKER 19 :
There's a financial illiteracy there. And you know why the people who pay more in taxes get bigger tax breaks? That's a cyclical answer, by the way. I'll say it again. Do you know why the people who pay more in taxes get bigger tax breaks? I just answered it. The people who pay more in taxes get bigger tax breaks because they pay more in taxes. Never forget that the top, what is it, like the top 50% pay like 98%, 99%.
SPEAKER 15 :
More like the top 6% or 7% pays more than 50% of the entire burden.
SPEAKER 19 :
And then the bottom pay nothing. It is completely lopsided. It's so disproportionate. The top 1% of taxpayers, they paid the highest average income tax rate. In fact, it's the most. I'm looking at data from 2022. So the average income tax rate in 22 was 14%. The top 1%, they paid actually way over that. They got 23 average rate, six times higher than the 3% average rate. The top 50% paid 97% of all federal income taxes. The bottom 50% only paid, actually they paid less than three. Good God. Yeah. Yeah.
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And by the way, our progressive tax system needs to be completely looked at. The more you make, the more you pay.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's punitive.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's theft. 10% of my salary, as opposed to 10% of, say, Donald Trump's salary or whatever, his 10% is paying way more. And we're still both paying 10%.
SPEAKER 19 :
Honestly, all of the discussion about civil wars over everything other than this is stupid. But if you talk to me about a civil war over this, I'm in. Because we literally went to war for less than this back in the day. It's so bad. This is so bad. So the top 1%, they have a rate six times higher than the average rate. This is math, by the way. This is literally the summary of all of the latest federal income tax data. It punishes.
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I'm looking at this. It punishes success. It punishes success.
SPEAKER 19 :
And yes, the top 1% pay... The most they pay six times higher than everyone else. So what is he talking about? He's he's an economically illiterate moron. Good grief. And this is this is what they're this is what they're what they're paying. And they're going to pay more. He wants everybody to. Can you imagine a half year check in New York going? I always carry, I've told you a million times, I have no problem using lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones, but I also realize too that Not everyone is American. Not everyone wants to exercise or believes in natural rights. And so you have municipal or private property restrictions that may disarm you. And we always don't have the luxury of choosing where we go, especially if it's for work. But you want to be protected. Maybe you carry a stun gun. And that's nice. That has like maybe one round to the burn a gun, which shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. The CL, the compact launcher, it has 15. It's a 15 round shot capacity per cartridge. There's no recoil, easy target acquisition. And it's small, it's as small as a smartphone, so it's easily concealed. And you don't have to, there's no background checks, there's no fees, there's no waiting periods, they can send it right to your door, making it accessible to everybody. And I think it's incredibly important, especially for college kids, that they're old enough to go carry a full auto overseas in defense of their country, but they can't carry a semi-automatic here at home to protect themselves, which is insane. But they've got to go to school. They maybe live alone. This is an option for them as well. You can visit Burna.com slash Dana. Check out the Burna, C-L-B-Y-R-N-A. Burna.com slash Dana. Ready when you are.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Mitch McConnell fell down. He fell down inside of the Senate. He was helped to his feet by an aide and a Capitol Police officer, and he waved briefly at the camera before walking away without any assistance. He's 83 years old. He was asked a question by a reporter at the time when he lost his footing inside of the basement of the Russell Senate office building just a little earlier. He needs to just retire and relax and enjoy his life. because I can't imagine people living out the latter part of their lives in elected office. That just sounds like a hell on earth that no one wants to be a part of, you know? Just awful. A Marshall's shopper stabbed a customer in front of her family over a checkout line dispute, according to New Jersey cops. This is crazy. People are nuts. I'm telling you, the violence is real. A woman was upset at a customer because apparently they were taking too long, I guess, at the checkout. And she was just apparently getting very testy over it. And the victim, she stabbed the victim multiple times in front of her family. She apparently was buying kitchen knives from the store and used one of the kitchen knives to stab the shopper. It was like 6 o'clock on a Saturday. And it was Amber Thompson, 25, in Newark, got into an argument with another customer over the speed of the checkout lane. As the victim and her family left the store and headed towards the car, Thompson allegedly purchased a set of kitchen knives, removed one from the box, took one out of the box, and then followed the victim in the parking lot and stabbed her multiple times. She was taken to a nearby hospital with injuries that thankfully were not life-sustaining. Wow. Okay. Yeah, how is that not attempted murder? I agree with you. A Disney World guest apparently committed suicide at a resort hotel. Ooh, haunted Disney? I'm just saying, this is horrible. Wednesday, someone was found dead due to apparent suicide at their contemporary resort hotel. They said the manner of death was ruled a suicide, and it was apparently near the resort hotel, just outside of the hotel. Magic Kingdom Park. And they said it was an apparent suicide. So that's super sad. And a Volvo, a woman sues Volvo after her dog triggers the trunk to close, causing her brain injury. That's not Volvo's fault. That's your fault. Stick with us. We've got more in store. All Family Pharmacy. This is one of, this is probably one of my most favorite sponsors that we have. So I literally, I was getting sinusitis after we went to the memorial for Charlie Kirk, I started getting sinusitis and I overnighted medications to me that were waiting for me at my door when I got home. And I've had, look, it's doctor's prescription, all the inputs, all the precursors, everything, every bitty bit of this medicine is made in the US of A, right? Anything you want, antibiotics, your everyday meds, emergencies, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, which I took, all kinds of stuff. And you can get it in two to four days. You can get it overnighted in a pinch. It's affordable. You don't have to go through a million gatekeepers. You know your body. I know I'm getting sinusitis. I had it a million times. Had my meds. And guess what? I was able to be well on my birthday. Because you guys remember, I was getting sick last week. Y'all remember. Well, All Family Pharmacy helped a sister out. You can stock up now at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. And use code Dana10 at checkout. That saves you 10%. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Code Dana10 to save 10%.
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Yes, I'm thinking of it, of the fact that remedial action absent discriminatory intent is really not a new idea in the civil rights laws. And my kind of paradigmatic example of this is something like the ADA. Congress passed the Americans with Disabilities Act against the backdrop of a world that was generally not accessible to people with disabilities. And so it was discriminatory in effect because these folks were not able to access these buildings. And it didn't matter whether the person who built the building or the person who owned the building intended for them to be exclusionary. That's irrelevant. Congress said the facilities have to be made equally open to people with disabilities if readily possible. I guess I don't understand why that's not what's happening here. The idea in Section 2 is that we are responding to current day manifestations of past and present decisions that disadvantage minorities and make it so that they don't have equal access to the voting system. Right. They're disabled. In fact, we use the word disable in Milligan. We say that's a way in which you see that these processes are not equally open.
SPEAKER 19 :
So this is the DEI pick for the U.S. Supreme Court, Ketanji Brown Jackson, who is literally comparing black people and the black people not having majority black congressional districts to disabled people not being able to enter a building before the American Disabilities Act. Oh, my gosh. She literally said, quote, they don't have equal access to the voting system. They're disabled. Anybody else that would have said this, they would have immediately, like the Apollo Sandman, pulled them off of the bench. Holy cow. So does she think being black is a disability? That's what she just said, right? You heard that? Yeah. I mean, if you're disabled, isn't that you have a condition, whether it be physical or mental, that somehow limits activity or senses or movement or something? Is she saying that being black is the same thing as that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, she argued that.
SPEAKER 19 :
What does she think that she is incapable of doing as a black person from her perch on the U.S. Supreme Court bench? That's a million dollar question. The irony of a black Supreme Court justice saying that being black means you are disabled, thus unable to vote the way you want is. Did we just get like drugged or something? I. Holy cow. I think that she is one of the most uneducated people I have ever heard in my life. She is so out of her league. Even Sotomayor has contrasted her on numerous occasions. She's arguing for race-based districting, redistricting. So she's quite literally arguing for racism. I mean, she had said the idea in Section 2, and she's talking about the Voting Rights Act, and they heard arguments on that yesterday, that current day manifestations of past and present decisions, I'm reading the transcript, that disadvantage minorities and make it so they don't have equal access. So she's saying that means that they, oh my gosh, Cain, dear heavens.
SPEAKER 15 :
My head is hurting. Hurting.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's like Maxine Waters is sitting on the bench. Yeah. Um, that's, that's, that is, I never thought I'd ever heard. I thought I've heard every argument and I lo and behold, I'm surprised now.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't want to call that an argument though. I mean, it's a hail Mary at best and it doesn't really address what they're discussing. All it does is create, she's trying to create some sort of victim category in this arena and she's using disabilities in regards to race based redistricting. It makes no sense.
SPEAKER 19 :
Isn't, I mean, when, when Democrats tell you who they are, you better believe them. Uh, her arguments, I was reading some of, I mean, of course, remember, this is the justice, this is the Supreme Court justice who, when she was asked during her confirmation hearing to define what a woman is, what did she say, that she wasn't a biologist? Yes. Oh my gosh. So, I don't think that, I actually think she was struggling to understand the statements that were being made in court. At one point, the solicitor general said the plaintiff said they want another majority black district. And Jackson said they said our votes are being diluted. And the solicitor general said, which is the same way of saying that we want another black district. And she's like, no, it's not. And maybe she's disabled. I don't know. You're right, Kane. I am. I. It doesn't make any sense. And I can't believe that she made this compare. I mean, I can, I guess. She can't tell what a woman is without a biologist, but then she just basically proclaimed an entire race of people are disabled because she can't gerrymander a district the way that she wants to. I mean, this is really stunning. So her whole point she's that she's arguing for, she's arguing about. It sounds like her issue is with white because she had said at one point white Democrats were not voting for black candidates, whether they were Democrats or not. That's what an NAACP lawyer had argued. And that's why they were talking about making these race based congressional districts. That's. That sounds like, okay, that's always been a problem with Democrats. Democrats have always had a problem with minorities. They've always pretended that they don't, but they were the party who wanted to stop women from voting. They were the party who put the American Indians on the trail of genocide and fought against them owning their own land. They were the party who wanted to perpetuate slavery. They were the party who wanted to put the Japanese in internment camps. They have literally always been the party to do the lists, to do the camps. They were also the bigger national socialist sympathizers back in the day. So they've always why is this shock anybody that, of course, Democrats still to this day would have an issue with black candidates. And then they finally the only I mean, they fast track Barack Obama, who is severely underqualified for the position, more so than any other person who ever ran for that office before at that point in his career. And then they they. They did that and think that they have a pass for all of their historical abuses. Abuses, by the way, that they continue to engage in today and everyone just looks the other way because they want that access to power. It is one of the craziest things I've ever seen. This is when she wouldn't answer. Steve has this. This is when Ketanji Brown Jackson wouldn't answer whether schools should teach five-year-olds if they can pick their own gender. Listen to this. Listen to her.
SPEAKER 22 :
With Georgetown Day School, I found it astounding that it teaches kindergartners, five-year-old children. And I've got grandchildren. They teach them that they can choose their gender. So is this what you were praising when you applauded the, and I'm quoting you, transformative power of Georgetown Day School's progressive education? Do you agree that our schools should teach children that they can choose their gender?
SPEAKER 11 :
Senator, I'm not... Remembering exactly what quote you're referencing, but Georgetown Day School is... It was in a book, and you gave the quote.
SPEAKER 22 :
Georgetown Day School is a private school that... Yeah, I'm asking, do you agree that schools should teach children that they can choose their gender?
SPEAKER 11 :
Senator... I'm not making comments about what schools. Oh, my word.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wow. wow so this is her so you're that makes her remark less does it i mean i don't know now democrats still they're having an issue luke rosiak's reporting that instead of forcing jay jones out of the race remember they some of them were trying to leak internal showing how bad he was struggling after he was uh after those texts where he talked about shooting people came out now they're trying to go after the person that they blame for the public finding out about his texts So they're trying to oust the woman that they're blaming for his text becoming public, and that's Carrie Coyner. And she's a Republican. She's a moderate Republican in the Virginia House. She's the one that Jones was texting when he was fantasizing about murdering Republicans and went and shooting kids. In fact, she she was so moderate that she this was in 2022 when all this happened. She was so moderate. She didn't she never made them public. So. Rosiak notes that they replaced the moderate speaker, Todd Gilbert. That's the one that Jones wanted to murder. He wanted to kill him and his kids. And he had texted that he wanted Todd's wife to watch her children die, watch her children die in her arms. So they replaced him with Speaker Don Scott, who is a convicted crack dealer. Yeah. And then after Koiner confirmed that, yes, these texts were authentic. Then the convicted crack dealer, Don Scott, used a church pulpit, Rosiak wrote, to minimize and murder an attacker, to minimize murder an attacker. Wow. He went to speak at a church in her district on the 5th of October. He told the congregants that using the pulpit to minimize Jones's homicidal ideation against Koiner, he accused her of betrayal. Wow. Wow. So Gilbert cut an ad accusing Koiner of the exact thing, betrayal, this week. The guy that Jay Jones was talking about murdering apparently cut an ad accusing Koiner. Oh my gosh. This is insane. They don't like moderates. This is crazy. And remember, Abigail Spanberger also blamed Republicans for Jay Jones's scandal. She won't work. She won't demand that Jones and they want the guy who gets so mad that he talks about murdering people and shooting their kids. They want him as top cop in Virginia. You're going to back that blue. Just curious. He'd be the attorney general. Imagine what Jay Jones would do with his power. Think about it. If he sits there and fantasizes about murdering people, what do you think that he would do with his power? You think that you could trust somebody like that with that power? I mean, if you believe that, then, you know, lick the chains on your wrists.
SPEAKER 03 :
Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day? Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day? Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?
SPEAKER 17 :
Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?
SPEAKER 03 :
The American people want to know. We still have questions.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, she literally said it in her daughter's documentary where they gave it up. She was like, I'm not going to call on the guard. She said it, though.
SPEAKER 15 :
And admitted she should have allowed it. Yeah. And Mario Bowser had a letter refusing the offer from Trump for 10,000.
SPEAKER 19 :
So why is she getting so upset? She's really crabby there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because our garbage mainstream media will run cover for her and she knows it.
SPEAKER 19 :
I really wish the reporter, though, would have said, well, then why did you say in your daughter's documentary that you weren't sending in the guard? And that... And even acknowledge that it had been requested by POTUS. Why did you say that in your daughter's documentary that everybody saw and the clip is still online and you were in the back of a car on the phone talking about it? Why did you say that then? I mean, do these people, I don't know, maybe because they're a different generation, they don't realize that all of this stuff is easily accessible and you can just grab it right off the web or not? Or, as you were talking about, the Bowser letter. Or what about the Capitol Police that were like, or was it D.C. Police?
SPEAKER 15 :
It was D.C. Police.
SPEAKER 19 :
They were like, yeah, nobody called the other guard. They didn't, you know, POTUS had said something. Oh, my gosh. This is insane.
SPEAKER 15 :
There's a chain of command issue that they were trying to explain to us. Remember, at the time, we were reporting on all of this, and the police chief was claiming, look, we have protocol we have to go through, and I can't do anything unless we get the green light from the mayor. And they refused it. Muriel Bowser refused it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, absolutely refused it. So this is, wow. I mean, she got really upset there. And I really wish that that reporter would have followed up. I would have interrupted her and overpowered the volume of her voice by asking about that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I noticed a lot of bots or other accounts online trying to perpetuate this lie that somehow Trump never offered and never made that gesture. Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And it's not true. Correct. So asinine. You know what I forgot to get into today and I'll have to save it for tomorrow is the alien story. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Where's this at? Where's this at? You got 40 seconds. No, no, no, I know. Where did I? Oh, oh, oh. A documentary revealing a government cover of non-human intelligence variety reported on this. Ooh. And apparently they're saying it's, I totally believe that. I think that there are aliens right now. I think there are aliens right here on Earth right now. Some of them are, I think they've infiltrated everything.
SPEAKER 15 :
Non-human intelligence.
SPEAKER 19 :
It explains so much. It explains a lot of pop music.
SPEAKER 15 :
And yes, exactly. That's non-intelligent humans. That's a little different, but it sounds the same.
SPEAKER 19 :
Kane and I were fighting. I'm going to set this up. I'm not going to. You can set up your clip. But Kane and I were fighting over today in stupidity because I wanted to play it immediately. And he was like, no, I have it earmarked for this segment. It's the one time I get to speak uninterrupted for 60 seconds. Wow.
SPEAKER 15 :
Does that sound like that? Did I say those words? No. I don't remember all that.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, go ahead. Today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 15 :
There you go. It's Hakeem Jeffries. Oh, this is so bad. When his political career fails, he's going to be a rapper.
SPEAKER 12 :
Like me and Donnie. House Republicans shut the government down. Then they ran out of town. And for the last three weeks, they're nowhere to be found.
SPEAKER 19 :
All the oun stuff rhymes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Man, anyone else impressed?
SPEAKER 19 :
So deaf, man. D-E-F.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, yeah. Oh, boy. We all know that it's... And by the way, House... We already passed the CR. Stop it already. Get off your butts and tell your Democrat colleagues in the Senate to get this government back up and running, okay?
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All right, we are back. Sorry, don't mean to cough in your ear there. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House with us. Dr. Kelly, how are you today?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Always a joy. Steve, welcome as well. Thank you for coming back this week as well. Glad to be here, guys. All right. Last week, Dr. Kelly, you weren't with us, but Steve and I covered a little bit, and then we kind of got off on a bunch of other things that we talked about last week. But we did talk about briefly the Pfizer and White House deal. You were not with us, and I know you wanted to add some things to that, so I'll let you have the floor.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you know, I was really distressed when you talk about the – excuse me, the Pfizer deal, Albert Borla, the CEO of Pfizer, was there in the Oval Office with President Trump and Bobby Kennedy and others. And President Trump was singing his praises as a leader, as a great leader during COVID and talking about the tremendous contribution that Pfizer and Borla made to the outcome of the pandemic and on and on. And I watched the thing just appalled, saying, what in the world are you talking about? It was not that long ago that we all were really heartened that President Trump had posted on Twitter that he was open to and really demanding to see the data about the vaccines and that he was willing and ready to acknowledge if they weren't actually the wonder drug, the wonder intervention that he had hoped they'd be. Now, fast forward to October and all of a sudden he's hosting Albert Bourla, you know, and giving him some sort of, you know, tremendous prize. In addition to the fact that he is agreeing to 70 billion dollars worth of additional research and development of mRNA platform drugs. I found it absolutely appalling. I heard an interview yesterday or the day before with Mehmet Oz from CMS referring to Borla having been in and, quote, bending a knee to President Trump. I don't know what press conference Mehmet Oz was watching, but I sure as heck didn't see it. Albert Bourla or anybody from Big Pharma bending a knee. I think it was quite the opposite.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and question on my part, and Steve, we didn't really get into this last week, but if they're now basically sidestepping that middleman and they're just going directly to, quote unquote, you know, the Trump Rx website, how I mean, unless I'm missing something, Dr. Kelly, they're not discounting the drugs. They're just cutting out some of the middleman markup. Am I right in my thought process?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, correct. They are cutting out some of the, you know, some of this is, I think, slight of hand. They're cutting out some of the middlemen, which is a big deal.
SPEAKER 04 :
I get that. I get that. Absolutely. But in this case, Pfizer is not taking a cut is my point, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct. Correct. Pfizer is not going to lose a dime.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that's the same thing with regard to the, you know, quote, most favored nation status. You know, all they are going to do, they are agreeing to sell us drugs at the same price that they sell to other countries. And so what they will do is they will decrease the cost to us and they will increase the price that they charge to some other countries. I guarantee another dime will be lost by big pharma in all of this. It may ultimately bring down the cost of drugs somewhat for Americans, including those people on Medicare and Medicaid primarily. And I have been a huge proponent of cutting out middlemen.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
But rest assured, big pharma is not going to take any loss.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and, Steve, we talked about, again, some of this last week, and then we got off to talking about all sorts of other things, and it was still a great hour. I'm not questioning anything of what we did there, but I think the more time we've had now to sort of look at the deal and what's happened, and even you and I talked about how the middleman gets cut out, but Dr. Kelly's correct. At the end of the day, and we didn't mention this last week, but at the end of the day, Pfizer's not losing a thing here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, no, they're not only not losing a thing, but how is it that you can do a direct consumer program to Medicaid patients who can't afford to pay for health care? Who's paying for the drug that they're now taking direct? Because they're bypassing health insurance. They're bypassing the middleman. And Medicaid's a little bit different because it may be that the Medicaid program will pay for those drugs. But for everybody else, direct consumer has been going on for five or six years now. No one has claimed it's made a hell of a difference, and I don't think it will in this case. I think, you know, to Kelly's point, first of all, Pfizer didn't give anything up. Right now, at this moment, first of all, we have a major drug problem from drug manufacturing, drug safety, distribution, pricing, drug use, both illicit and prescription in this country. But there's another factor, and that is this past week. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's become fairly clear that between APAC and And the pharma companies, they're funding political campaigns around the country and driving the narrative that suits them best. And those two are two of the biggest.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Kelly, and again, your thoughts on all of this. And again, Steve's right. And really, at the end of the day, what Pfizer did, and again, maybe I'm not seeing this correctly, but they sort of just secured their own future by what they did. And Steve's right. There's been a lot of direct to pay, and it'll be interesting to see how all of this ends up shaking out. But again, at the end of the day, I think to your point, they're not losing anything. The bending of the knee, I guess what we're going back to, hasn't happened.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct. I didn't see any of that. And I'm very concerned that although and I think that Bobby Kennedy is probably feels very differently about this than the president. That's my guess. Unfortunately, I didn't. I am seeing deal making happening with the devil here. Big Pharma has not been our friend. They have been raping Americans on the cost of drugs for decades and decades. They have produced some of the things that have created tremendous illness and suffering and disease rather than curing it. We certainly saw that with the COVID quote unquote vaccine program. We've seen it with statin drugs and other drugs that have caused more harm than good. And, you know, I don't I really am perplexed. as to why the president would go down this path unless once again he's getting bad advice. We certainly saw that happen with Anthony Fauci. I don't know who's advising him on these things or what the exchange of dollars is, but it doesn't look good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, along those lines, and this was going to be my next question, so go to you first and we'll go to Steve. And that is my main question. Who is advising him on all of this? What are your thoughts there? And I guess the question on a lot of the issues with this direct-to-consumer drugs and so on, where is RFK Jr. in all of this?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, as I said, unfortunately, I don't think that he has carte blanche to do what he wants. If you watched that press conference with Borla, I felt like daggers were shooting out of Bobby's eyes into the back of Borla's head. As Trump was, you know, lauding him and praising him. I don't think this is something there's no question that Robert Kennedy Jr. has fought. He's litigated against big pharma for decades. He knows them well. He certainly is not a big proponent of the vaccine programs in general. There are lots of things that I think he disagrees with the president on. But unfortunately, things don't necessarily happen on our time frame. They happen on a different time frame. And it doesn't mean that there aren't that we won't ultimately get where we need to be. I would have wanted, for example. the COVID mRNA shots to be withdrawn from the market on day one of this administration. Obviously, that hasn't happened. We have seen some significantly changed, quote, guidelines from the CDC. We've seen some significant movement in terms of exposing or demanding more research and more safety data. But things, unfortunately, in Washington work a little bit more slowly than I would like.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Steve, your comments on that, then we'll take a quick break.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, clearly, look, something happened between Borla and Trump in the COVID vaccine development process, Operation Warp Speed. It may be nothing any more complex than him saying to Pfizer, look, you guys do this for me, make me look good. I'm running for reelection and I'll always take care of you. And he's trying to live up to that promise. I still I still absolutely believe. He does not want to say that the COVID vaccine didn't work. His ego is having a hell of a time with that. And so, therefore, you bring Pfizer forward. You want to make Pfizer look good because there's questions about them. You do this to give them an opportunity to look good. Unfortunately, it's the wrong thing at the wrong time at the wrong price for the wrong people. It's just not the right thing to do.
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No liberal media bias here. This is Rush to Reason.
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All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House. If you have ever wondered, you know, why do we talk to them every Thursday, go back through some of our podcasts and different things that we've had. You know, our recordings, I should say, that we've had for the past five years during this particular hour on Thursdays. And you'll know why we've been doing this all through COVID and since. And we've continued on. Had a great call that came in during the break. Dr. Kelly, I'll start with you. And the question is, OK, we've got Pfizer and they're making this deal and it's going to be direct to consumer and so on. And they're sort of being unvilified, if you would, over the vaccines and so on. And yet we've got Kenview, the maker of Tylenol, that was vilified a few weeks ago. And fact of the matter is, I agree. I don't know this personally, but from the face value sides of things, Dr. Kelly, I would look at what Kenview does and all of their subsidiaries and what they actually make in regards to, you know, Johnson's and Listerine and Neutrogena and Tylenol and Motrin and Benadryl and Band-Aid. And I can go down the list of things that they actually are involved in as far as the manufacturing of. And no offense, these are everyday things that people use to make their life better. And yet they're vilified. What am I missing here, Dr. Kelly?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I agree. And the real problem with the connection between, with regard to the impact on the companies and marketing, the connection between autism and acetaminophen is that acetaminophen is the drug that they were trying to implicate in potentially being a causative agent for autism. Tylenol is a brand name in the same way that after the Jonestown massacre, people used the word Kool-Aid. Again, Kool-Aid is a brand name, but the shares of Kool-Aid plummeted because it was associated with that rather than just sort of a powdered drink mix. They should never have used the word Tylenol. None of us should. We should be referring to it as acetaminophen, and there are many, many manufacturers of acetaminophen. Tylenol is a brand name, and I do think that they've taken it on the chin. Yeah, I mean, people use them interchangeably, but there are lots of companies that manufacture acetaminophen, and there are lots of products that have acetaminophen in them other than just the simple pill or that that we know as Tylenol. It's included in lots and lots, for example, of cold and flu medications made by other companies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and really quick, and to prove your point, Dr. Kelly, Tylenol, Panadol, Excedrin, Dayquil, Fevral, and I could keep going.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly, exactly. So, you know, I feel badly for this manufacturer because the name Tylenol has gotten thrown around, but people need to remember Tylenol is simply a brand name like Kool-Aid or Kleenex. Right. You know, we use it ubiquitously to refer, you know, Kleenex is a perfect example. What you really mean is tissue. Facial tissue, that's right. Right. facial tissue, but we use the word Kleenex all the time when that's actually a brand name.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Steve, your thoughts on all of this? And again, I think it was a great question. I have no issues with the question. In fact, I kind of wonder the same thing. It's like, okay, wait a minute. We've got a company out there that really, for all intents and purposes, Steve, produces a lot of different things. Now, whether you agree with each particular brand and its uses and so on, that's probably up for discussion, maybe even a later time. But all in all, a brand that people have come to recognize of building quality products across the board that help their everyday life, and yet they were vilified the other day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, this is part of the problem I have with drugs in America. It's It's so complicated that the average American, if you said, can you take Advil and Tylenol at the same time, most will say no because they think they're the same thing. Is Motrin more Tylenol or is Motrin Advil? We don't want them to advertise on TV, but there's got to be a simpler way. for people to understand what they're taking, why they're taking it, and get to know, because there's so many drugs in play right now. So, yeah, you know, one company taking the hit because they're the Kleenex of acetaminophen is, you know, it's not fair to that company, but that same company published something back in 2017 or 2018 saying that if you're pregnant, we don't recommend you take any of our products.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
So why are they ignoring the fact that they tweeted that out five, six, eight years ago?
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Kelly, that's a great question and one that I was wondering the same thing of.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, clearly, you know, one of the problems, as Steve points out, is that people are just ignorant of they are not well informed about these things i can't tell you uh how many people have confusion over the difference between an antihistamine and a decongestant and they are opposites you know and there's an appropriate time to use one and not the other Sometimes both together. As Steve said, people don't know the difference between ibuprofen and acetaminophen, which drugs contain which ones. We have many, many issues for all the hype about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. We have, by orders of magnitude, more overdoses on acetaminophen because people don't think to look at the back of the bottle. They say they've got a bad cold or the flu. They'll take a couple of Tylenol and then proceed to take Dayquil or NyQuil or one of the other multitude of... compound, a mixture of cold and flu medications, and they're getting more acetaminophen. They shouldn't have taken those first two pills. That's how you get toxic and end up with liver injury from acetaminophen because it's contained in so many different things. So a lot of it is what we call pharmaceutical ignorance. that people just are not well-educated, and I think we should do a better job of it. If I were Surgeon General, that would be a big part of what I would do, some basic education on these simple medications that are over-the-counter because most of them are relatively safe, but you can get into trouble if you don't know what you're doing and you're stacking them on top of each other by taking, you know, as I said, it's very, very common with cold and flu medications. because some will contain a decongestant or an antihistamine or acetaminophen or something else that's combined in there. And then you take a second medication that contains the same thing, and there can be some overlap.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so here's a question for you. No, go ahead, Steve. Jump in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead. So not to toot Kelly's horn specifically, but when I watched the commercial with her and Peter, and they're talking about the fact that And even, you know, the other doctors, too, they talk about the fact that you get this kit, right? It's a kit for when you have a flu. It's a kit for the wintertime when you're sick. And you have to go through a doctor's visit to get it with them, you know, over the phone. But there's a part of me that believes that one of the best ways to lower health care costs would be for everyone to have that kit who needs it. Because in reality, instead you end up in the ED or you make a mistake and you take too much of acetaminophen or you don't take enough pain reliever because you don't think you can take Advil and Tylenol together. If everyone had a basic cold and flu kit at home, we'd have less ED visits and I think it would pay for itself many times over.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, Dr. Kelly, along those lines, there was a question. Steve really took the words out of my mouth. How do people become more aware? And by the way, is this something that the three of us need to work on? And I put something up on the website where we can make this a little bit more easy for people to really understand. Or what are your thoughts there?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, again, I'm not here to promote my company, the wellness company, but what Steve's pointing out is correct. I think, and if you had asked me five years ago before COVID, I would have had a very different answer. But what I realized during the COVID debacle, truly, is that most people, most Americans are a lot smarter than we've given them credit for when it comes to their own health. For example... There isn't a woman out there who doesn't know when she has a bladder infection, a urinary tract infection. OK, you know, it's not subtle. Every you know, if you've had one before, you know, there's zero reason that that woman should have to march herself into her doctor's office or an urgent care or, God forbid, the emergency department immediately. incur a $1,000 plus bill plus waste hours of her time and take up a much needed hospital bed or room while she gets evaluated to say for somebody to get a urine sample and say, yep, you got a urinary tract infection. Here's your prescription for antibiotics. Number one, she's just wasted anywhere from eight to 12 hours when she could, if she had those antibiotics at home already, She could have started treating herself right then. And that's, I think, the way I'm not talking about saying that, you know, an emergency kit or having medications at home replaces your need to go to the doctor or to have a primary care physician or potentially to go to the emergency department. But so many things. are treatable, easily treatable at home with common sense and a guidebook or a telemedicine visit. And you would take the stress, the pressure off of the tertiary care centers, the emergency departments, and also have exponentially lower health care bills as a result.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Makes total sense. And Steve, when you say a cold kit, you know, cold care kit and Dr. Kelly, you know, the wellness company, you know, Steve, first of all, what do you mean by that? And Dr. Kelly, do you have that? And can you fill that? Steve, I'll start with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, frankly, I mean, a normalized, relatively broad-scale antibiotic is a good idea because, like you said, Kelly said, I know if I have a bladder infection. I know if I've got an ear infection. I mean, at least I have a pretty good idea. The beauty of it is I could call the doctor or call somebody or look something up even, and if there was enough education, I think the kid has to have at least a little bit of education to To say, look, if you have this symptom and this symptom, then feel free to try this plus add zinc and vitamin C. And if it doesn't help you in two days, then you need to think about a different strategy. I mean, that by itself, you've already got the resources to solve the problem. They're in the kit. You've pre-qualified by talking to a doctor. You've got some education. And it's likely not going to do any harm to you. Because you wouldn't have gotten the kit in the first place if you had preexisting conditions that would prevent you from getting it. So why not that as opposed to a rush of people in the ER at $5,000 a shot in November and December?
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Kelly, I've talked about this in the past, and this is one of the complaints that I have. And I understand that when you go to other countries, you have to be careful about what they offer in some of their products. I guess I should say it that way because you know what I'm talking about here, and that all of them are not created equal. I get that. Although there are some legitimate places and you can get what you need and you can even in foreign countries put together some of these kits that Steve is talking about and you're talking about. So I always have a dumb question. Why can't we do that here? I mean, why do you have to go to a second world country to get that over the counter? Why can't we do this here?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's primarily, you know, that's one of the reasons why our company was founded. It was because of our experience with the COVID pandemic and the fact that for the first time in my career as a physician, we saw this egregious intrusion of everybody from politicians to pharmacists to, you know, news media people telling people what they couldn't and couldn't get. Right. For things like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. I had patients who were unable to buy these things. We had entire big box chains, Walgreens, Walmart, you know, refusing to fill these prescriptions. And we said no more. We are going to allow people to get access. to an array of prescription medications that they can have on hand. That's everything from antibiotics to antivirals, steroids for allergic reactions, medications for nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, the sorts of things you would need if you were traveling or if you were just home and didn't want to have to go to the ER or an emergency or an urgent care. And I think that we are doing that here and trying to make these things available because I don't want people fleeing to Mexico or elsewhere and getting something that perhaps isn't what they thought it was, is contaminated or tainted or not produced under the highest quality standards. So I think that really what we learned out of COVID was that we are doing a tremendous service to allow people to have these things on hand for their family. These are prescription medications that are written for the individual. They're not willy-nilly. And there's a backup, as I said, of having a telemedicine visit or a call with a practitioner if you have any questions about how to use them. I think it's been a long time coming. Interestingly, as an aside, we have now more and more states. I think we're up to 17 states that have now made ivermectin over-the-counter. which it is, by the way, in almost every country other than the United States. So after all of what people went through during covid, finally, more rational heads have prevailed. And ivermectin is slowly becoming over the counter in more and more states.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, dumb question. Why, and I get what you're saying, you can now with your website, and there's others, of course, like it, because some of these have just sprung up over the past five years, Dr. Kelly, to your point, but all that being said, Why can't some of these like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, why can't a local, you know, and I get it, you don't want to probably maybe just put those things out on the shelf and even in places like Mexico, they're not. You still got to go talk to a pharmacist and actually ask for it. It comes behind the counter and so on. But at the end of the day, why can't we do that in the U.S.? In other words, why does it have to be, you know, quote unquote, prescribed?
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Well, I think the issues are multiple, but here are just a few from a clinician's perspective, independent of who controls the money and all that. One of our concerns about having ready access to antibiotics is that every time people sneeze or cough, chances are 99.9% that it is a virus, yet people will choose to take an antibiotic because they don't know. That's how you drive antibiotic resistance. That's how you end up with, you know, tuberculosis that is resistant to almost every drug. That's how you end up with strep and staph that are, you know, MRSA, things that are resistant to antibiotics is the inappropriate use of antibiotics. So that's one thing. Number two. We can't all of a sudden expect your average layperson to be a clinician. If you have a child, for example, a young child, a two-year-old who develops a high fever, and you say, well, I guess I should start giving him or her some amoxicillin because you must have an infection. There must be an infection, but what if that infection is meningitis? And that parent doesn't seek medical care because they think that, well, I've got my noxicillin right here. I'll just treat little Johnny at home. And the next thing you know, little Johnny's having a seizure and dying. you know, is on a ventilator in the ICU. So it's the concern about misdiagnosing and not understanding. So it's a fine line. We make these things available for adults with the idea that, you know, we are trying to guide people to treat common, easily treatable signs and symptoms and infections with medications without making them so readily available that everybody can just go in and grab an antibiotic and and start taking it for what's actually a viral infection. And the next thing you know, we have rampant antibiotic resistance.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so devil's advocate here. And maybe they do have this problem. I just don't know it. Does places like Mexico have the problems that you're mentioning? Because they can do what we're talking about and literally go in over the counter and buy the same things that we're talking about. Is that a problem there? Or do they have... No offense. I don't consider them to be smarter than Americans. I don't consider us to be smarter than them on the same token. But at the end of the day, do they have that problem there?
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. Number one, I agree with you. They are not necessarily better educated than we are. I can't speak to whether or not they have higher incidence of antibiotic resistance. I don't know that. And it may simply be that they've been because they've been able to access these things. you know, forever, they've been able to do it, that they just don't go willy nilly and take them, you know, because I fear that in the United States, as soon as you make something like that available, people will flock in there. But I don't know, and I don't have any reason to think that they have a higher incidence, for example, of them misdiagnosing and mistreating infectious diseases in children, and therefore ending up with a bad outcome. But I can't say that definitively.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And again, that's... No, go ahead, Steve. Go ahead. Good question.
SPEAKER 03 :
There may be another theory at play, and I've traveled around the world, and In areas where acute care medicine is not as available as it is here, people have to learn to take care of the problems that we so often end up in the ED for. And I think the system changes, right? So if you're in Mexico, you can't immediately get into a hospital to have somebody look at you, or you're going to wait eight or ten hours. Having access to a low-risk facility antibiotic when you've got a certain set of symptoms and you've got to take care of yourself and you've got to go to work the next day. In some cases, it's simply because my income can't afford me to take the day off. They find ways to do that. In the U.S., we don't have that same situation, and I think that's part of the problem. I think we have to have a review of pre-acute care medicine. Quite frankly, if The Surgeon General, we're doing the job we want the Surgeon General to do. This would be a conversation to say, look, the problem is acute care medicine and post-acute care medicine are incredibly expensive. Figure out a way to push things into pre-acute care and keep them there. Some of it's what Kelly and Peter are doing. Some of it is education. Some of it is, you know, people get themselves just desiring not to deal in the hassle with the system. But I think that's part of where the problem lies.
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The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Dr. Kelly Victory, of course, with us today. Steve House with us as well. And again, we're talking about, in fact, Dr. Kelly, I'm going to go back to you. I'm one, and you know my feelings on this. We've talked about this many times in the past. We might as well hit it again. I mean, all of what we're talking about really comes down to we need a major overhaul on how we do health care in America, correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
There's no question we need a major overhaul in so many ways. First of all, let's start with things like insurance. We have perverted the concept of healthcare insurance. You have car insurance, you have homeowner's insurance, those things don't pay for routine maintenance they don't okay you when you go to cut your lawn or paint your house you don't employ your your homeowner's insurance when you go to rotate your cars or your tires or change the oil in your car you don't use your car insurance so let's start with that people have an unrealistic expectation of insurance We have, you know, overwhelmed our entire system because we have, let's face it, a tremendous population of people who are here illegally who are using the emergency department and urgent cares as their primary form of medical care and health care. It isn't sustainable. We have, you know, it's such corruption, fraud and graft in the pharmaceutical industry as to be truly it is crushing Americans. We have these middlemen who are jacking up the prices exponentially. They are fundamentally, you know, doing engaging in racketeering. It's a pay to play business. and they jack up the prices so that they benefit. I could go on and on. 85% of physicians are employed by some big corporation now, so they can't even make their own decisions. There's layers and layers of bureaucracy between the patient and the physician. It's really a mess. We took what was the best healthcare system in the world and have fundamentally destroyed it. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you got to ask yourself, you got to ask yourself the question. And this is what one of the things that drives me nuts with this too, is that drug pricing is, is estimated to go up 12% next year in 2026. So let's get this straight. We've got increasing demand with virtually unlimited supply, not always the case with drugs. Why is the price rising? I mean, you know, they'll say, but, but it's not just rising a small amount, it's rising 12%. And it just rose, uh, 6.5% or 7% this year. Why is the price rising in this environment?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and that's a great question because I'm going to throw this back at you, Steve. Why is it rising when I can go buy an 85-inch TV for a fraction of the price of what I could even just two or three years ago?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, partly because PBMs prevent competition. There you go. If you're not on formula, you can't compete. If Harvoni's on formula at $44,000, you can't get Maverick at $24,000 to solve the same problem. I mean, it's racketeering like Kelly said, and it's out of hand. Employers are starting to really wonder if they're going to be able to offer the same benefit packages because it costs so much.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, Kelly, you know, here's a question for you. Are they basically in turn forcing us into a, you know, complete subsidized through the taxpayer health care system where it's a single payer? And I know that's the I know that's what one side of the aisle wants to do. But is that what's being forced now?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, certainly, you know, that's certainly what they would like to have happen. As you said, I certainly hope it doesn't, because if you think that universal health care or government sponsored health care is a good deal, look at what's going on in Canada and the UK. There's a reason why any Canadian with more than 50 cents in his pocket comes to the United States for health care, because you will die up there waiting for health care before you actually get it. So it is a problem. But, you know, there we've got to start fixing some of these issues. We've got to bring pharmaceutical manufacturing back to the United States. You know, look, we are in no right now. We are absolutely beholden to the Chinese of all people for most of our drugs. The president has acknowledged it, but I haven't seen anything so far start to start the needle yet. to return pharmaceutical manufacturing back to this country. They have got to offer significant incentives for pharmaceutical companies to start making everything from antibiotics to medications for high blood pressure and everything else here in the U.S. There is so much to be done. It's hard to know really where to start. And on top of it, we've got a population that is sicker and sicker. The one thing that Bobby Kennedy truly has... focused on which is we have got to start you know driving down the disease burden you cannot control health care costs if you don't control health right we've got right good point we can't have a point okay we we cannot have 80 percent of our population with a chronic disease and expect to somehow control health care costs it's simply it can't be done
SPEAKER 04 :
Steve, and I'm with you, it sounds, not sounds like, we're at a point to where, like you were saying, those costs continue to increase. And I get it, labor costs have gone up, but product costs in a lot of cases, if we had the right competition, Steve, the cost to make, especially some of these drugs that have been around for a long time, the cost of those should be going down, not up, just like every other thing that we have out there does. I mean, there might be a few exceptions to that when it comes to, you know, cars and things like that, and that's a whole other discussion we maybe could get into at some point in time, because frankly, they should be coming down in price as well. Reality is they're not because of other factors. But when it comes to things like drugs, where in a lot of cases, there's not even a lot of labor involved in making them, like big screen TVs, they should be coming down in price, not going up.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they absolutely should. But a big part of that, and I think fixing health care is tied to the same issue, which is People have to stop using as much of it. They have to stop using so many drugs. I mean, you know, when, you know, I can tell you right now, people like Ford Motor Company is a business, John, where you're familiar with Ford. Ford probably pays $900 million a year for prescription drugs for their employees' independence. Almost a billion dollars. And some of it's use, right? So the number one thing you got to do is give me something more. than a Starbucks card for good behavior. I can tell you, right, the average Medicare person goes to the emergency room once a year. So if you're 65 and older and you avoid a Medicare or you avoid an emergency room visit in a year, give them 2,500 bucks. We would save that much money easily versus an ER visit. But they don't do that. You get a $25 Starbucks card or you get something to Dunkin' Donuts. I mean, the incentive does not match the desired behavior, not even close.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Kelly, your thoughts on that? And I can't disagree with what Steve is saying. And I don't know the numbers of, you know, I mean, I can only guess at what ER visits cost and when it's all said and done, what we would incentivize and help save at the end of the day. But, you know, I'm sorry to say, and this is not to poke at government, or maybe it is, government doesn't think that way, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, listen, I ran a company for the better part of a decade that was based entirely on this premise. We work with self-insured companies, so companies like Continental Airlines and Nissan Automotives who are on the hook for all of the costs for their employees' health care. And because they're self-insured and we were able to incentivize people in the way that Steve's talking about, we would say to people, look, if you go to the fitness center three times a week on average, we will drop your health care insurance premiums by X amount. If you participate in the diabetes management program, if you show up to get your weigh-in regularly, once a week or once a month, if you participate in a smoking cessation program, because it's all about driving down the total cost burden. I can try to get you a better price on a chest x-ray and drive it down, but the better thing is to get people so they don't need a chest x-ray. We were able to do it in the private sector because those companies are highly incentivized And honestly, we saved Nissan Automotive millions of dollars at a single plant in Mississippi. A single plant, simply by incentivizing the right behaviors in their employees and employees' families. We have got to do this. We've got to make the right thing to do, the easy thing to do, and make it pay off for people. For example, it's not every state... allows employers to, whatever you want to call it, to penalize smokers, for example. I think every state should be able to do that. If you smoke, you should pay more in health care premiums, okay? Look, if you drive fast and you get a bunch of speeding tickets, I promise you you're going to pay more in car insurance. OK, if you build your house in a floodplain, I promise you you're going to pay more for homeowners insurance. If you skydive, you're going to pay more for life insurance than I do. So why, if you smoke in a sedentary, shouldn't you pay more for health care insurance?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, well, they would come back and say, Dr. Kelly, as you know, and Steve would know. Well, that's discriminatory, Dr. Kelly. I mean, it's not as far as I'm concerned, because we do it in a lot of other areas of life, like you just mentioned. But that's what they're going to come back and say, correct?
SPEAKER 03 :
It is absolutely discriminatory, and it needs to be. It needs to be discriminatory. That's the entire point. That's the idea, right? Yeah, the other thing about this is that if you drive up your own health insurance and you're part of a group plan at work, you make everybody else pay more, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it's not just you.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're correct. You're correct, Steve. Dr. Kelly, again, he's right. That's exactly what they're going to go back and say, and he's exactly right. It should be because that's the whole point of it, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. It's discriminatory that if I get forced feeding tickets, I'm going to pay more in car insurance, and it should be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really quick, Dr. Kelly, no more than if you, and I know this, if you own a home, and you do as well, if you own a home in the mountains where there's a higher risk for fire, you're going to pay a higher premium than you are downtown where there's no trees around you, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct, and it's supposed to be a risk analysis. You're supposed to have, there's a calculation of how much risk you pose to the group, and you should pay, talk about paying your fair share, you should pay your fair share because you are going to cost more. And so I think that there's so much around insurance and how we incentivize. I will tell you, I would love to bring what we did in the private sector To the public sector, because it really is the way to crack that. We also brought health care closer to where people are. You know, the idea, for example, the amount of lost work time that's included because people have to leave work or take a day off from work. to go to the doctor. You take, you know, pregnancy. Pregnant, you know, women who are seeing their OB once a month to get an ultrasound, it's a 20-minute, you know, it's a 20-minute appointment that ends up taking half a day.
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Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Or a full day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good point.
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So if you actually, you know, and so we actually brought those services to the work site so that people, we could, you know, call people and say, we're ready for you now, come on down, and they'd be back at their desk working again in 30 minutes. Mm-hmm. uh you know these are the there are programs that you can put in place you know we have got so many things your average child doesn't participate in any physical activity because they've eliminated visit pe from the school system kids take the butt you know get either a ride or take a bus no kids you know walk to school anymore nobody rides their bike anymore so we are developing an entire you know we're now probably in our third generation of kids who are obese, have pre-diabetes or full-blown diabetes, have sedentary lifestyles, and are on the conveyor belt to a life of just relegated to not only a lousy lifestyle, but extraordinarily expensive health care.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I just got a text message in, by the way, that life insurance companies, Dr. Kelly and Steve, they do the exact thing we're talking about. And again, the question continues to come back, why can't we do the same thing in health care? We should, but I guess, Dr. Kelly, we refuse to. I don't have a good answer. I don't know why.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, there's an answer.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, go ahead, Steve.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the answer is, I mean, when you think about how they constructed Obamacare, I mean, the theory was that if you had a preexisting condition, you were being discriminated against when many times that preexisting condition was a result of environmental factors and things like that. So rather than give incentive for someone to stop smoking, they made it so that no one could be penalized no matter what they did. And so the only thing was smoking cessation and age were relevant in Obamacare, but they basically set up an insurance product line that didn't incentivize good behavior and it forgave all bad behavior. Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that's not insurance, by the way. Insurance is intended to cover catastrophic and unanticipated things. Think of every other form of insurance. You know, what people have gotten to expect in health care is what you would call a bumper to bumper plan in automotive insurance. You know, something that covers where you pay ahead some exorbitant amount of money and anything that happens to your car is covered. Well, you can do that in health care, but it's going to cost you. And people have this expectation that everything is going to be paid for from their PAP, their annual PAP smear to their wellness check. And it simply is not sustainable.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nope, you're right. Guys, the hour goes by fast. I've got several text messages in thanking us for doing what we're doing and talking about this very subject, and the reality needs to be brought more to light. We'll continue to do that. Steve, I'll let you go first. Thank you, man, as always. Appreciate you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good to have you back, Cal. Get as many people out there as you can to get the kit. I'm telling you, we'll see health care costs go down, and I'm not promoting your business, but it's a good idea. Amen.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I know you can promote it all. Dr. Cal, you can promote that all you want. Amen. I totally agree with him. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I thank you for that. I appreciate it. If you go to the Wellness Company website, there's a huge range of kits. You can figure out which one's the right one for you or your family. And there's always someone available to talk to if you're not sure which way to go. I do think they're a huge value and can be a lifesaver and also keep you out of the ER.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Dr. Kelly, again, thank you very much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you.
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All right, and have a great rest of your day as well. And again, Wellness Company, that's where you go to get that kit that Steve was talking about and Dr. Kelly as well. Dr. Windows and Doors, speaking of saving money, do that with Windows and Doors by going direct to the source. That's what Dave Bancroft does for you. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, wrapping up things from this first hour. Lots of you texting in and thanking us again for not only this hour, but all the hours we do with Dr. Kelly and Steve House. And once again, we are big, and so are they, on you taking care of your own health. Get that. basically wrap your mind around that, where it's not somebody else's responsibility to take care of your health. It is your responsibility. The wellness company, that's something that Dr. Kelly's been a part of now for quite some time, one of the founding members of, and she's always saying, I don't want to self-promote. She can self-promote all day long. It's a great company. It's a great way for you to have things on hand, like Steve said, for you to be able to take care of your own health and rather than relying on somebody else to do that for you. And by the way, that's what Dr. Scott believes in fully as well. So we've got lots of resources here for you at Rush to Reason. So just go to the website, RushToReason.com, and you can find Dr. Kelly and all of what we talked about there as well. We'll be back with more hours coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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I'm a rich guy.
In this thought-provoking episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush and Steve House discuss the global perspective on America's economic prowess and the challenging perceptions of wealth distribution. They delve into the contentious issues surrounding wealth taxation and the impact of misconstrued free services in other countries. The conversation also highlights the often-overlooked implications of mental health crises exacerbated by inactivity and societal pressures.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did.
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Get a job, sir. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same and there's a big difference.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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And welcome, Thursday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Normally we have Dr. Kelly with us during this hour. She is on a flight, I believe. She is traveling at the moment. Steve House with us, though. Steve, welcome. How are you? I'm good, John. How are you, man? Always a joy. Hope you had a great time off, by the way. We missed you.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did.
SPEAKER 06 :
Got to see a little bit of the rest of the world. Nothing wrong with that. So how is the rest of the world doing, by the way? What do they think of us Americans?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, I think, I mean, I wouldn't say it the way Trump says it, but I think that they view America as being powerful and productive now in a way that most countries are not. I think there's some distaste for Trump itself, but then there's a bunch of envy for the economy, the jobs, the different things that we have going on here versus the way it is in the rest of the world. Um, you know, and people, you know, like there was just something recent happened at some city council meeting where a woman said that every person in America should have to, um, publish their net worth and, and that they should be taxed to get their net worth below a certain threshold. So whatever that threshold is, it should be maximum. Right. Okay. So when you go, you go to Europe and you talk to people and you say, you know, how much do you pay for healthcare? It's free. You know, how much do you pay for this? It's free. And, like, there's just no way you can possibly educate, you know, groups of people to understand that that's not free when we don't even have people in the U.S. who look at it as anything but free. They want everything to be free, and they don't think it costs anything of anyone. And I just, it's a real difficult standard to live with. And thank God we have the freedom we do because it just doesn't exist in most places.
SPEAKER 06 :
I missed that City Council meeting presentation. I guess the question would be, did she say what the threshold needs to be? I mean, is it $500,000? Is it $1 million? Is it $5 million? I mean, what threshold does she feel like people need to be at or below to be, in her mind, I guess, not super rich? I think in her mind it was anybody that had a million dollars or more. Needs to be taxed so that they have less than a million dollars? Yeah. Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, the way she said it was very direct. She said, taxes are for reducing people's wealth. Wow. It's exactly how she said it. And I was listening to this, and I probably used a few words of profanity I wouldn't use on the radio, but I'm just like, don't you get it? Don't you understand that if you tax me... above a certain level, you prevent me from doing better than that, I'm going to stop working when I get to that level.
SPEAKER 06 :
Or you'll go somewhere else where you can do that and still reap the benefits of. You'll find some other country that allows you to do that and figure – I mean, as you know, Steve, and there's no secrets here, and anybody that has any kind of a brain, I think – would know this and by the way i don't think people like her necessarily believe in what she's saying i just think it's rhetoric they put out because that's part of the that's the marxist mentality that's exactly what they believe in you know get rid of all of the the wealthy have this really do a total dual system whereby you know the majority of people are below a certain level and then the upper echelon is at that higher level which you always wonder steve how long do they even last because true marxism they don't last very long at that upper level either. But at the end of the day, you know, as you know, those people are smart. They're not going to put up with that. They'll just figure out ways around it or they'll go somewhere else. They just won't stay. They won't stay in that environment.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's like New York. I mean, there's almost no question that New York is going to elect Mamdani to be their mayor. And, you know, he will get away with his taxes because the city council is dominated by Democrats. But The reality of it is there will be a reaction, and I don't think these people get it. I was in Chicago. I was at a foundation luncheon yesterday, and I was listening to a county foundation talking about the fact that, you know, they want all the Medicaid money returned to illegal aliens. They want all the Medicaid money. They objected to the idea that there were two qualification periods now. So you get qualified for Medicaid. Six months later, you requalify. That's going to hurt people. I'm like, why would that hurt people? I mean, you're going through the same asset evaluation at that point. The only way that hurts somebody is if their assets rise to a level that they should no longer be on Medicaid, they should actually be on Obamacare. That was the point. And so they're going to lose people because they're not going to like those two periods. I'm like, tough. I mean, really? Give me a break. If that's the hardest problem you have, well, then they spend hours getting snapped. They spend hours. I'm like, maybe you should convert that time to getting a job. Yeah, working.
SPEAKER 06 :
Amazing. Well, it's interesting you say that. I had a great doctor on yesterday during health and wellness, psychologist, clinical psychologist, doctor, great guy, by the way. And we were talking about, you know, just everything from, you know, mental illness, depression, things along those lines, you know, things that happen to individuals. And the fact that far too many drugs are prescribed when people may not even need those in the first place. There might be other things going on that they could actually work through. And one of the things that he and I got to talking about was, you know, in a lot of cases, Steve, some of this mental illness is simply the fact that people aren't busy enough. They sit around, to your point, they sit around feeling sorry for themselves or they're trying to gain the system or they're doing this or they're doing that, and they're simply not productive. And then we wonder why we have all these mental health issues.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I mean, that was part of the discussion yesterday that was so important. I don't know, it's so hard for me to listen to as well. It's not that I'm not embraced in reality, because I know what reality is, but the head of behavioral health in this program said, he said, we have the largest behavioral health facility from the Midwest to the West Coast. Right down the road, it's called the Cook County Jail. And I'm like, okay, so we have a whole bunch of people who have behavioral problems in sitting in that Cook County jail. And his answer to that question is let them out, give them money, make them whole and they'll be better. And I'm like, I don't think you have this right. I don't think you do. I mean, that's a crazy notion. You know, if they don't understand, you know, like, well, they were triggered to do this and triggered to do that. I'm like, forget it. You're pretty weak if you're triggered by a bunch of stuff. And I'm not being that critical. I'm sure there are people in the audience who are going, look, you're picking on people. Well, the reality of it is the best advice I could give to anyone is you got to get tougher. The world's a hard place.
SPEAKER 06 :
You've got to get tougher. Yep. No, you're 100% correct. And that was basically what we were talking about with this. I mean, again, as you know, most psychological doctors, most doctors in that field, I guess I should say, psychologists, don't necessarily think that way. And you know what I mean by that, Steve. Most of them are in that world where Well, you know, maybe you should be doing this and maybe we need to concentrate on that. And, you know, maybe you need this pill or that pill. And on down the line we go. And I'm not bad mouthing those individuals. That's typically the way that works. And guy interviewed yesterday was completely the opposite of that. He's like, wait a minute. No, we're we're giving out far too many prescriptions. We're affecting far too many people at the end of the day. We have this crisis going on because we've created it because of some of the policies and things that we're doing as government.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly right. Exactly right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And by the way, I couldn't have said it any better, and I'm not a doctor, but he was spot on.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. I mean, there was an NIH study that came out today I was going to ask you about, since I didn't share it with you, but today or last week or something recently. Sorry. It was a study that showed that if young men, in this case 15 to 40 basically, who smoked marijuana daily and spent a fair amount of time playing video games – their increased risk for schizophrenia was like 85%. Wow. And so you think of it like, all right, so yeah, we legalized marijuana. Um, yes, we invented the video game. Yes. They individually can choose that lifestyle if they want, but, You know, the first problem you have is that most people turn them into victims rather than saying, look, how can we get them out of this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. That's right. That's exactly right. No, it's exactly what he said yesterday. It's funny that, you know, we're still talking about this, but I was so impressed by by what he said, because, again, that is against the norm of what his quote unquote industry says. feels and preaches on a regular basis Steve and this guy's going literally against the grain saying wait a minute time out you know there's a lot of situations whereby and it's funny you say the drug side of it one of the things he said yesterday is I asked him okay what if you've got a family member that is struggling you know with mental illness what's one of the first things you should do and literally his first words out of his mouth was find out if they're on drugs or not because if they are get them off that could very well be the reason they're having the problems that they're having his words not mine Steve
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and that's exactly right. I mean, drugs have such a big effect, and we've had so many. I mean, the classification of drugs, I mean, I've done a lot of study on LSD and the stuff that was around back when we were in high school. Versus today, I mean, there are so many classes of drugs, so many different ways, and so many more people who are addicts with both alcohol and drugs. And it just tears your brain up. I mean, it just tears up your brain.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, no, he said, again, the very thing that you're talking about is exactly what... He said yesterday, I mean, if Kelly was here, I guarantee you she would be agreeing with the very things that we're talking about, because a lot of this, quote unquote, you know, mental health crisis that we've gotten to in this country. Steve, let's face it. We've created it. It didn't. You know, I also I would love to have Kelly's input on this. I do think that with some of the. You know, food changes and different things we've had throughout the years. There might be something said along those lines, which, by the way, is still our fault. I mean, not saying that that's not our fault either. That is as well. But I think everything you just stated a moment ago, especially when it comes to, you know, young men and even young girls now and some of what you just mentioned in regard to, you know, video games, drugs and so on, that's not helping at all. No, it's not.
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In fact, there was a couple things that happened just in the last 24 to 48 hours that I think are really illuminating on this subject. One was the Secretary of War gives a speech about, you know, we're not going to do beards anymore. They have to pass the physical fitness test. You know, we're not going to be gender neutral or whatever. You've got to do it, right? Right. So lots of people in the media look at that and go, oh, they're all going to quit, right? They're all going to hate this. You know what? They're not. Opposite. They're not. Because they have guidelines that they have to follow that they are going to strive for that is going to make them healthier, and they're going to be fitter, and they're going to feel better about themselves. It ain't going to be easy, but they're not going to hate it. And the second thing was, you know, I do a lot of stuff with AI, and I was listening to a speaker tell the story about the fact that neural networks and the different chips that are coming, the different AI stuff that's coming, he said, our biggest risk is that we have generations of people He didn't name which generations, but he said they don't like life. They don't believe it's fair. They don't believe they're paid well. They don't believe that, you know, society's right. They don't like the president. They don't like this. They don't like that. The answer for them in so many ways is someone's going to come to them and say, let's put a chip in your brain. It will take away depression. It will give you a much happier view of life. Yada, yada, yada. So all of a sudden you'll have a whole bunch of people who have had implanted devices that are operational via artificial intelligence. And that's going to cause a wave of people who are expendable. You know, you don't have to account for them anywhere. They're soft, they're tender, they're controlled. That's where the danger of AI is. But it still starts out with, are we tough enough to manage our lives based on a set of standards that are really the right standards?
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Steve, when it comes to, I want to talk for a moment about the whole, you know, AI end of things. I want to get into Pfizer and all of that, too, as far as what's going on with the White House. But as far as the, you know, just the whole AI thing and this implant, you know, implants, I guess you could say, which I don't disagree with you. I think at some point in time, that's where things are headed. And am I, you know, and you know my feelings on this. Am I all against AI? No, I am not 100% against AI. That's not my point here. In fact, I think it can be a very useful tool, just like a lot of other things can be. Although, like other tools, Steve, we need to make sure that we monitor and take care of it correctly.
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Yeah, I mean, like anything else, I mean, there's good and bad. I try to explain to people, here's the simple analogy that most people will get. When MRI came out, people in medicine said, this is going to be one of the greatest tools we've ever had access to, which turns out to be true, right? Because you can do imaging at a level you can't do with blood vessels and brains and everything else. However, the first MRIs that went in for actually for quite a while, MRIs were dangerous and they were dangerous because if you walked in the room with a screwdriver in your pocket, keys in your pocket, I mean, people weren't completely aware of how strong the magnet was and what the dangers were. AI is the same way. AI has the potential to do some really amazing things, especially process-oriented stuff and stuff that requires fast, effective education. But if you just go all the way into it, jump all the way into it, you're going to get hurt. You got to be careful with where you go to. You got to be careful how much it does with Human interaction as opposed to process related stuff until you've figured out how to govern it, how to do it right. And you certainly can't screw around. I mean, they're talking about putting in chips and people who have spinal cords that don't work and trying to make that work. I mean, I know Elon Musk is working on that. Those things are probably worthwhile things.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. Yeah, if you can take, in fact, Steve, if you could use, you know, things along those lines to help people with, you know, bodily functions, things that they might otherwise, you know, be struggling with, much like we do, you know, cochlear implants and things along those lines. I mean, there's, in my opinion, nothing wrong with any of those things. And I get it. It may not be right for everyone that has one of those things. But when you can, in that case, help someone hear that otherwise would not be able to, or even maybe now they're hearing in one ear, but they could hear in two ears. I mean, those are all great inventions, great things in our modern world that, frankly, ought to be used as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to steer away from those if they're done correctly. That's correct. You can't let...
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You can't push it over the edge where you put somebody into a robotic category because there's enough technology in them that they are no longer in control of what's happening. It's being controlled by an outside force or by artificial intelligence, which is essentially an outside force as well. It has to be done in a reasonable way. It has to be done in a practical way, but it has to be done considering human beings and what they need.
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Yeah. Yeah. And again, I can't disagree with that. That's one of those things that maybe at a future date, you know, we can get more in depth into that. It's fascinating to me. And I look at a lot of the things that are happening in AI, the good, the bad, the ugly, by the way, because there's some things, you know, like, you know. there's some things in it that are definitely ugly just like a lot of other tools you know i say it this way steve you know whether we're talking about mri machines on the medical side whether we're talking about cars or guns i mean let's face it cars can be used for great tools they can get us from point a to point b they can also be very deadly and kill people same thing with guns i mean i could go down the list steve of all these different things that are there that have been invented over the years although i will say and i want to get your feeling on this i feel like with ai It's like being back in the early, you know, late 1800s, early 1900s with the Industrial Revolution. This is a complete game changer, and I don't think people, on average, really understand what a game changer it is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they don't, and quite frankly, most people are looking at AI as a large language model, which is basically a version 1.0 of AI. There was stuff prior to that, but... The 2.0 version is entirely different. It doesn't require a large language model. It does not go out and search for data the way that a large language model like ChatGPT does. The second level is all about what are called ontologies and semantics, and really what it is is It's looking at how does data or a data point, what relationship does it have with another data point? So ontologies are basically structured relationships. So it gets a lot smarter when you're not looking at a big bulk of data and say, well, our average forecast for what the data is telling us is this. We predict this. When you get to ontologies, it's very, very specific. And it's very, very deterministically. You ask it one question, you ask it that same question 10 times, you're going to get the exact same answer 10 times. That doesn't happen with large language models. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
So there's better coming, ultimately. Oh, yeah, ultimately there is. Well, and thank you for saying that. One of the things I can encourage all the folks that I know that are even using it, playing around with it, helping it in their businesses and so on, I keep reminding them that keep in mind something that you may have tried before a month ago that you weren't really happy with the response of, realize that today, a month later, it's learned a lot in the last month. And you're liable to get something different today than you did a month ago or even a week ago. Because as you know, Steve, every moment in time, it's learning. And I know that sounds scary to a lot of people, but that's the reality of what's happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, I mean, I talked to one of the candidates for governor about, you know, his plan for you know, Colorado and, you know, one of the conversations that came up, which I think was on target was if you can teach kids in Africa in six weeks, what it takes to typically learn in two years by installing an AI bot to work alongside the student, you go from two years to six weeks. Imagine the educational gaps we have in Colorado. And otherwise, I mean, math scores are like 20% of, you know, grade level when they graduate reading is as bad as that. If you can use AI sitting alongside the student to get educated and do it at grade level or above, number one, that solves a huge problem, and I think that's worth it. And number two, virtually anybody, I witnessed this the other day with somebody I work with who knew nothing about a subject, had an opportunity, was ready to turn it down, and I said, don't do that. Go to AI, ask six questions. Here are the six questions. They asked the six questions. I said, read everything that's written there. Ask any question or ask another question on anything you don't truly understand. By the time he got done, he was basically a PhD in the subject. He bid a quarter of a million dollar opportunity and won it. There you go. So think about it. Great example. It might be entrepreneurs.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, you can operate at a PhD level with AI if you use it right. You can. And I've got some of my coaching clients where we're continuing to dig more and more into it on the ability to help them inside of the business, whether that be in helping with sales, whether it's just helping in data processing. Maybe it's actually helping to write invoices, things along those lines, Steve. And if I could just get them to do more of it, what they're learning is, oh, wait a minute. You know, I could probably and whether this is good, bad or otherwise, this is the reality of where it's going. I could probably do everything that we're doing with one less person or maybe even two, depending upon the size of the organization. And Steve, that's partly what's going to happen. Now, that's scary to a lot. Although when you look at the employer sides of things where they're struggling to find really good, solid people that show up every day, that's exciting for those. It's fretful for one side, but exciting for the other. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, that's the whole thing about do you have a scarcity mentality or an abundance mentality? And if you have an abundance mentality, you look at it and go, the number of opportunities that are going to be available to me is, you know, a hundredfold greater when I have the ability to become an expert. The expert is an interesting point because I would tell you that John Rush is a business and technical expert in automobiles. I can take a 25-year-old who's got an AI bot sitting beside them, and I can make them an expert on almost everything in the auto business except the business and technical experience that you would use to filter what the AI does versus the 25-year-old who doesn't know that stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct. But that doesn't mean that... No, you just bring up a great point. In fact, I've been telling... I had a conversation with a teacher not long ago where I basically said, you know, what you really should be teaching your students is not to steer away from AI, but, you know, how to use it. I'll be honest about what they're using, by the way, since they're in the classroom. But at the end of the day, how can they become teachers? an expert in something whereby they're now the quote-unquote filter or the fact checker of AI, meaning what you just said a moment ago. You've got to be an expert enough in a field to know, is this the right answer, the wrong answer, or how do I dovetail something else into this that makes it even better?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. I mean, the business knowledge should both guide to more rapid adoption of the learning, but it should also stop you from things much faster, too. You know, you may say, look, no, you are not going to replace that or remove that carburetor, regardless of the fact that you have. and in-depth knowledge of every piece and part that goes into it. Because what you don't understand is the match to that engine. And if you take it out, you're going to unmatch it and then you're going to get poor performance. So you might actually prove your principle that you know what you're talking about, but you will actually do damage you shouldn't do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and that's where some of these young kids especially, but even folks that are our age, Steve, need to realize that, okay, I need to become probably even better and sharper at what I'm actually doing so that AI doesn't replace me, but I actually become its guide or I become its checkpoint, if you would. I'm the security gate there. for it. Maybe that's the way to say it, Steve. And I think so many employees out there listening, even owners, are not looking at it that way. They're looking at it completely as the enemy, and I want to stay completely away from it, much like the horse and buggy guys did with the automobile back in the day, Steve. You can't do that. Not this time around. You do that, you're going to get left behind.
SPEAKER 07 :
You are. In fact, it used to be when we'd mentor people, and you do this for a living, but I used to mentor people in my corporate life. And There's all kinds of things you could say to them, but you come out of college, you say, well, look, you can't stop learning. You've got to keep learning. You've got to keep asking questions and do that. The time compression that they now have at their fingertips with even ChatGPT or Grok or any of the current versions of that gives them an opportunity to make themselves more valuable, not only rapidly, but continuously more valuable over time. If you don't use it, that's up to you. But I can guarantee you, you know, I would rather pay, you know, somebody who's interested in becoming better and using the tools they have at their disposal than someone who wants to just learn it slow over time, because that's not the way the world is anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
Especially now. Now, shifting gears and going more towards the medical end of things, which, of course, is your background, and let's talk about the Pfizer deal, because, by the way, some of what we just got done talking about I think actually fits into some of what we're going to talk about in regards to, you know, Trump-RX and the Pfizer deal. And for those that maybe didn't see the announcement today, explain what this is.
SPEAKER 07 :
So the president agreed with, I think his name is Borrella, who's the president of Pfizer, to do direct-to-consumer sales of the Pfizer product line for drugs. Now, it's not the first time this has ever been done. I mean, we think it is, but it isn't. It's been done for five or six years. So essentially, Pfizer can cut out the middleman. The middleman we all know as the PPM. I mean, we've talked about it with Kelly many times. So the middleman marks up the drug dramatically, right? I mean, so a GLP-1 should cost a fraction of what it does. But the PBM gets a hold of it, marks it up dramatically, and then puts it in your health insurance plan and gives you a copay that's, you know, $500 or more a month. And, you know, the drug probably didn't cost any more than $300 or $400. So it's great that Pfizer is willing to do that. It's great that they're willing to do it with Medicaid. But let's talk about the practical reality. If you don't buy your drug through your health insurance, if you have health insurance, then you're paying 100% of the cost. Now, the drug may, in fact, be cheaper in combination between your health insurance cost and your cost, but it's not cheaper to you as an individual. So, you know, there are some places where that may be the case with some unique drugs. So that's number one. Doing it in Medicaid is interesting because, again, you know, the Medicaid, the insurance plan is not going to pay for the drug. This is direct to consumer. Health insurance plans are not required to pay for those drugs. If you buy it off of their plan, you have to pay yourself. Well, if you're on Medicaid because your income doesn't allow you to be any higher than that, a drug goes from $4,000 to your Medicaid plan to $400 to you only. Can you afford the $400? Gotcha. The answer is probably not. So there's been direct-to-consumer stuff for a while in the drug category, but it has not done all that much. The high-cost drugs, the high-cost specialty drugs, yeah, you know what? You can get it for, instead of paying $8,000 for a particular immunosuppressant drug like Enabrel or something else, you can get it directly from the pharma company for $800, which is what they'll sell it on the street for at a discount, most favored nation price. But I guarantee you, You know, you're paying $150 a month for the copay. I don't think you're going to pay $800 for the drug every time you need it.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're just not going to be able to afford that. So at the end of the day, is this more optics and politics than it is actually helping people? Or what are your thoughts there?
SPEAKER 07 :
The political upside is... Getting the drug companies to come to the table and to do something. Okay, this is not what I would do I would again cut out the middleman but sell the drug through the health insurance company and However, the PBMs and the health insurance companies are not going to want to do that because the PBMs and health insurance company get a whole bunch of money in rebates that they won't get if the drug comes directly from pharma to them. So they're just not going to agree to do it. Then they're going to say, look, I don't want the paperwork. I don't want to do it. On the other side of the coin, you know, philosophically, it's a good idea to have us thinking about lowering the cost of drugs, which, by the way, are going to rise 12 percent in 2026, which is catastrophic. On the other political side, though, I wonder if Trump is doing this with Pfizer or Pfizer is doing it with Trump because Pfizer doesn't want Trump. doesn't want the president to disclaim their vaccine for COVID. He's close, right? He keeps questioning it, hasn't done it yet. I think he is very, very close. When Robert provides him with the data that shows that, as we saw the other day, that more deaths than World War I, World War II, Vietnam, and Korea combined caused by the vaccine. Once that gets out there and becomes mainstream, Pfizer is going to have a problem. So is Moderna. And they want the president to protect them. And quite frankly, I don't think he should.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you know what? You bring up a great point. I hadn't thought about that end of things. I guess I should have, because this is really a way to, I guess you could say, defer, soften the blow, whatever you might want to say when it comes to what you just said. And maybe that's Pfizer's way of thinking, well, if we do this, maybe we get him off our backs. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, the worst thing that could happen for the shareholders, for the owners of that company, from their point of view, would be for someone to take that COVID vaccine off the market. Yep. You know what happens to your stock when that happens? No, it tanks. Then there are questions that become, you know, when will they, if ever, face liability questions? Right, right. And, you know, liability means multi-billion dollar, hundred billion dollar lawsuits. Or more. You know, that's the big, Perala and Pfizer don't want that. Moderna doesn't want it. Should they face it? I think they should because I think they made a lousy drug. It was obviously hurting people, still is, and they didn't take any responsibility for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and they coerced, maybe that's the right or wrong words, Steve, but they coerced government into pushing this thing out. I think they gave them a lot of false data and false hope, by the way, at the same time gave the American public false hope. And really, you know, in a lot of ways got government and other employers to mandate this. that frankly never should have been mandated, as we've talked over the past five years, never should have happened in the first place, but it did. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER 07 :
And think about this. Here's the simple setup that we've talked about in pieces, but here it is. The federal government pays Echo Health Alliance to create gain-of-function research and a COVID virus is released from a lab in Wuhan by accident or on purpose. That leads to some deaths and they shut the world down. When they shut the world down, people lose jobs, they lose their savings, they defer their mortgages, they have to pay more later, all those things. Now, because they're losing so much financially, you introduce the idea of a vaccine that will make it all go away. You add that vaccine to the schedule. You put it out. You don't quality. You don't safety check it. You don't report, in fact, on the safety problems you're having with it. People take it. A million people die in the U.S. from the vaccine or something in that order. Right. That entire cycle was born of our government. It was managed by our government and it is our government's responsibility. And unfortunately, I don't think they'll ever take responsibility, but it has driven this divisive. I don't trust the government level to the highest I've ever seen it. And I don't I don't. I don't complain on why that's happening because think about that simple cycle of what happened.
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The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
And we are back. Steve House with us today. Dr. Kelly Victory not able to be with us. She's traveling today. But, Steve, we appreciate your time as well. And you're the one that really was the brainchild to set up everything between Dr. Kelly and all of us way back anyways. And we've been doing this for about five years now. might have just tuned in or maybe only been listening to us for a short time a lot of what Steve just covered we have talked about over and over again at times throughout the last five years Steve when it came to even when even when this stuff was just starting to happen when it was being developed what was you know what was really happening at the time I mean we've literally lived and I've not missed other than being on vacation I haven't missed a single day talking about all these things, even through COVID, when, frankly, a lot of other folks were buried in their basement and scared to come out. That wasn't us.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it wasn't. And we took on the issues. By the way, I was the state chairman there in 16 and 17. I know we met during that period. You had me on the show and you and Dan and those guys. Haven't we been doing the show for 10 years? Oh, at least.
SPEAKER 06 :
At least. I mean, we started doing things, Steve, you and I, even when we were talking about even before you becoming chair, we were doing things with the Internet of Things and so on even prior to that. So, yeah, we've been doing this for probably well over a decade now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, people ask me, what's the smartest thing you did in getting this? I said, that was the smartest part. I mean, you know, I needed a radio guy who would actually last. You've been around for a long time, and, you know, you've been a mainstay. You've grown your base of, you know, advertisers and supporters, and you've just done a phenomenal job. I mean, probably the best. non-large radio host. I mean, you're probably doing better than almost anybody. You're not syndicated nationally, but people can listen to you nationally, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
They can, and they do. By the way, that's very kind of you to say. I appreciate that, and I don't take that lightly. I have a lot of respect for you. You've done a lot of things throughout your career, and for you to say that means a lot, and I appreciate that greatly, Steve. I really do. Back to this whole Pfizer thing and I guess here's another question. Given the fact he's doing that, Trump and the White House has done this with Pfizer. Will there be any other companies that follow along as well? Oh, no doubt.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, there's going to be pressure on them to react. I think they all know it's like I think we talked about this one time. So Bill Gates, who's worth God knows how much money. Right. Says I'm going to give 400 million dollars to a cause. And what he does is he gives 40 million dollars a year for 10 years. And you and I both know that he never runs out of the original $400 million.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, that's easy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because he's getting more than 10%. Exactly, exactly. So these guys like Pfizer and other drug companies doing this, they get publicity. They're seen with the president. It tantamounts almost to an endorsement. by Trump to them. So Trump's people, the MAGA nation, et cetera, are looking at it and going, Hey, Pfizer must be pretty good with the president. He's good with me. They're good with me, right? That can drive up stock prices, valuations. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why the other drug companies will do it besides just pressure.
SPEAKER 06 :
True, true. No, no, you're exactly right. So in other words, and I, you know this better than I, how many actual large, I mean, I know there's a lot of drug companies, but how many large companies like Pfizer are there? Five, six, or are there more than that?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's probably more 20 or 25 that are in that sort of spectrum. And they, because, you know, one big drug, And, you know, I mean, the guys that created the GLP-1s, I mean, you know, that can be a drug that changes the valuation of the company by a hundredfold.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow. I mean, just because there's so much demand. I mean, it's a process. I mean, AI is going to have a huge effect on drugs because... AI can simulate safety tests that are so close they are valid safety tests. There's other things that they can do, but if AI took a year off of a drug coming to market, number one, it might help patients who really need it, and number two, it's going to change the cost structure dramatically for pharma companies.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow, amazing. I was watching a video the other day, and this is something I was going to throw at you because you might know more about this than I do, because I have no knowledge of this. But I was watching a video on a guy who's a doctor, and some of this I don't know whether to believe or not. This is where I wanted to throw it at you, and I wish Kelly was here today because I'd throw this at her as well. But this guy was talking about how back in the day when the polio vaccine was actually – This was before the invention of DNA, which came about three years after the polio vaccine had been invented. Anyways, make a long story short, this guy goes through this entire process of going through the history of and how it came about and this, that and the other and how at that time. They gave out some worldwide around 300 million doses of this polio vaccine that once they learned after DNA what was actually in the vaccine, it actually had a cancer-causing dimension to it. I don't remember exactly what the code was for it. I should have looked that up and written it down. But anyway, Steve. supposedly according to this guy's story that polio vaccine itself actually introduced cancer more into the world today than what it did prior to that that prior to that you didn't really hear that many cases of cancer and that that particular event was really the quote-unquote large cancer-causing event impacting the world and again i don't know if that's true or not might be totally totally conspiracy this guy might be a total whack job i have no idea but i thought it was interesting
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the hard part about it is you're talking about SV40.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, SV40. And this guy's name was Dr. Jack Cruz. Dr. Jack Cruz is the one talking about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so SV40 being in there. I mean, SV40 is... actually a pathogen. I mean, it does, in fact, cause cancer being in the polio vaccine. You know, obviously, they're unaware at the time that it happened, you know, does it cause cancer? I think it's more likely that it does than it doesn't. But here again, you have these machines, these mechanisms inside pharma companies to disclaim responsibility for things. Not all pharma companies are bad. There's lots of great drugs out there, but when you make a mistake, and in the case of polio, polio vaccine to me is somewhat like COVID. I don't want to make it that direct of a comparison, but here's what I'm saying. COVID, if you take D3, if you take zinc, if you take vitamin C, if you live reasonably healthy, if you do get COVID, you're going to survive it, you're going to manage it, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So do you really need a vaccine that doesn't prevent it and doesn't stop it from being transmitted? The answer is no. It's much worse than a polio vaccine because a polio vaccine is a live virus vaccine, attenuated, but live virus vaccine that usually prevents you from getting polio. But the source of polio... is almost always poor sanitation and water. And so at the point where nations solve the sanitation and water problem, certainly the United States falls into that category. Did we give polio vaccines too long? You know, the issue was, you know, they want to make sure it's eradicated for a certain number of years in the country before they stopped doing it. There's an acceptable loss scenario. There were probably some people that were negatively affected by the polio vaccine that who took it long after they needed to take it because they set a standard based on number of cases in the country, when in reality, we knew what caused it, and if you took care of the water and sanitation, you were likely not going to have outbreaks of it again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Interesting. When do you feel like, and again, I know this is an odd question, but when do you feel like we should have stopped giving it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Shortly after we began to give it. I mean, I think once we had... I mean, you talk about what's possible. The U.S. government couldn't do this, but in India, they distributed and gave 60 million doses of the polio vaccine on a single day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then, frankly, in India, it was absolutely necessary. In Nairobi, Kenya, where you have 400,000 people living in a slum that has no running water, has no sanitation, those places were rampant for polio because the virus thrives in that environment. So the vaccine helped in those situations far more than it hurted in India. And frankly, again, it's in, you know, first world nations that solved the sanitation and water problem a long time ago may have been able to get off the polio vaccine long before they did. And they just didn't.
SPEAKER 06 :
And for everybody listening, there's actually, believe it or not, there's an article about what we're talking about on the NIH's website. website talking about the very thing that we're talking about right now, Steve, and it even talks about how studies of groups of people who receive polio vaccines during 55 to 63 provide evidence of no increased cancer risk. However, because these epidemiological studies are sufficiently flawed, the Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee concluded that the evidence was inadequate to conclude whether or not the contaminated polio virus is or polio vaccine caused cancer. In other words, they really don't know one way or the other. And there is, I guess, from what they're saying, a chance that it did. They can't disprove it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I know. I mean, I read a CHOP study about it, Milton's Hospital, Philadelphia, a long time ago. And the hard part is, is that we live in a world where we question everything, right? You know, we question the conspiracy theories. We create conspiracy theories about everything because we just don't believe the government. We don't believe the intentions And this is I'm a capitalist, right? I mean, I'm profit motivated. Right. But for for profit companies in the drug category, it's for profit until they die. And they, you know, disclaim responsibility in situations like the COVID vaccine that they shouldn't be allowed to. But the system works for them and they work it. And that happens. So, yeah, I mean, after 63, there was supposedly no SV40 in the vaccine. But at the same time, SV40 is still around. Right. And, you know, who knows exactly? I mean, unless you're. the small fraction of the number of people who actually know what the problem might have been or was specifically supposed to be, people are unaware. They just go about their day and don't even think about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep. I do know this. You know me. I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, Steve. In fact, probably err more on the side of being ultra-cautious than that, partly because of the fact I sit in front of this microphone on almost a daily basis. I have to be really careful as well on some of that. I believe I do anyways. But it does make you wonder, the amount of money, that has been generated off of people having cancer. And as you know, it's one of the leading causes of deaths in America today, that and heart disease. I mean, between those two things, they claim far more lives than anything else we talk about, including gun-related deaths and other things. So at the end of the day, those two top it by a long, long way. You've got to ask yourself, I mean, almost that skeptical side of you has to say, okay, time out. The amount of money that's been made off of that, is that SV40 end of things? That story I was just talking about, could some of that have been actually real? I don't know, Steve. I don't know. It probably was.
SPEAKER 07 :
It probably was, and you've just highlighted what I think is a big problem, which is once we start down a path, We make a polio vaccine. We make a COVID vaccine. We make statins for people who they think need to lower cholesterol. We rarely revisit it. We just keep using it, right? It's like you have this regimen of things you use, and those are things that doctors prescribe all the time, and they just keep doing it, doing it, and doing it, and someone says, well, that's probably not good. I mean, they think it's hurting people. Nah, I haven't heard that. I haven't read that. Well, you don't have time to read because you're too busy. But in reality, we don't revisit that stuff enough. And I think that's part of the job of HHS and the FDA is to go back and say, okay, you know, is Paxlovid a really, really an important drug in the COVID or is it damaging? Is Remdesivir, you know, is, you know, should people be taking statins? There's so many downsides to statins, but we just don't revisit it often enough. We just accept it as true. Even, even opioids, opioids originally, there were plenty of papers said they're not addictive. And, like, not addictive, not addictive. And they were as addictive at the beginning as they are today. That's right. And hundreds of millions have died as a result of it. That's right. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. I'll leave it at that. Hour always goes by fast. Steve, I appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Always great info.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks, man. Thanks, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
Appreciate you very much. Have a great rest of your day. Steve House again. Yes, and as he stated, he was one of our previous GOP chairs. One of these days we'll talk about some of that maybe in a little bit more depth as to even what's happening inside of Colorado right now. But veteran windows and doors coming up next. And, again, cut out that middleman, much like Steve was talking about when it comes to Pfizer drugs and what's going to happen with Medicaid. Cut out that middleman. Get those windows and doors direct to you. Find Dave today. Dave Bancroft at klzradio.com.
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All right, and Steve, by the way, very – I'll say this. He's not here with me, but I can say this now. I would say if even he was listening. I'm not joking. Probably one of the smartest guys that I've ever met and run into, and as he said, literally been on this program with me for 11, 12 years. I mean, almost from the very beginning of my show here, Rush to Reason, and not exaggerating. We met here – At the station one day, he was on another program, and we just met and actually hit it off really well. And I'll be honest, I think the very first time he and I met, we were not in agreement on a particular item that he was actually talking about. And so we had a very nice conversation, and once I gave my side, and it had to do with transportation and cars and so on, and once I gave my side, he was actually, you know, very, you know, opened his eyes, and he's like, yeah, okay, I guess I could see that side of things. And since that day, we became very good friends all the way through him being the Colorado chair, GOP chair, and so on, and just a great individual. And there's a lot of folks out there I know that don't look at Steve the same way I do, but there's not anything about him you could ever say wrong to me because I think everything he's done, he's one of the smartest, brightest, and most upstanding individuals that I've ever met when it comes to all the things we talk about on a regular weekly basis. So... I'll leave it at that. You can always find our episodes, past episodes as well. Just go to RushToReason.com. And again, this is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Tune into Washington Watch with Tony Perkins as he offers an examination of current events from a biblical perspective. With guests ranging from government leaders to notable journalists, this episode provides an in-depth look at international conflicts, financial stalemates, and crucial developments on the healthcare front. Explore the implications of the proposed subsidies extension and gain a deeper understanding of the intricate dynamics at play in international peace efforts.
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We thought if they don't want to fund the government via continuing resolution, we'll give them the chance to fund the government a different way by attempting to move forward with regular order appropriations bills. And once again, the answer was no. Democrats just voted to block the fiscal year 2026 defense appropriations bill.
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That was Senate Majority Leader John Thune once again expressing frustration as Democrats blocked the defense appropriations bill while the government shutdown enters day 16. Welcome to this October 16th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins, and we're broadcasting live from the Real Life Studios in Chino Hills, California, the site of this year's PrayVoteStand Summit. Thanks so much for tuning in. By the way, there's still time to register and join us for tomorrow and Saturday's summit. Just go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org to find out more and to register. edition of Washington Watch, the fragile Israel-Hamas ceasefire is already showing cracks. Hamas says it has returned all the deceased hostages that it can access, while Israel insists more remain captive in violation of the deal. Daniel Cohen, host of The Daniel Cohen Show on The Real Life Network, joins us with the latest from Israel. Well, the Israeli flags were flown at half-staff today to mark October 7th, Remembrance Day, observed on the Hebrew anniversary of the attack. The future of the negotiated peace deal may hinge on the return of the 19 deceased hostages Hamas has yet to turn over to Israel authorities, and whether or not Hamas will disarm. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who's been following today's top stories. Casey, what's the latest out of Israel?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thanks, Tony. State ceremonies, as you said, were held across the country to mark this grim two-year anniversary. And speaking at an event in Jerusalem, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed that Israel will complete its war aims and warned that its enemies will pay a heavy price. In that clip Netanyahu says, whoever raises their hand on us already knows that they will pay a very heavy price for their aggression. We are determined to complete the victory that will affect our lives for many years. This two-year conflict, Tony, has cost nearly 1,000 Israeli soldiers and left more than 6,000 wounded. Meanwhile, President Trump posted on True Social a stern warning to Hamas, saying that they must stop the killings or, quote, we will have no choice but to go in and kill them. Reports are also emerging that Hamas has been executing suspected collaborators inside of Gaza, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Casey, it's interesting. We see the price that Israelis have paid. But Hamas has also caused tens of thousands of deaths of Palestinians there in Gaza. And they're continuing by executing themselves. Well, President Trump is now focusing his efforts to end the war in Ukraine. What's the latest on that front?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, big developments today, Tony. President Trump announced a surprise agreement with Russian President Vladimir Putin to hold another summit like the one in Alaska, but this time in Budapest, all aimed at ending the war in Ukraine.
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I thought it was a very good phone call. I thought very productive. But I'll be meeting with President Putin, and we'll make a determination. Tomorrow I'm meeting with President Zelensky, and I'll be telling him about the call. I mean, we have a problem. They don't get along too well, those two.
SPEAKER 03 :
You could say that. But this announcement comes just before Trump's scheduled meeting with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy tomorrow. And Zelenskyy is still pushing for more military aid, including those controversial long-range Tomahawk missiles. But the phone call between Trump and Putin today was described as productive. But the future of increased U.S. support to Ukraine remains uncertain. Now, meanwhile, the conflict is intensifying in Ukraine, with Russia launching hundreds of drones and missiles targeting in particular Ukraine's energy infrastructure, while Ukraine strikes back at Russian facilities, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
Very interesting. We'll have to see what happens on that front. Obviously, President Trump is somewhat on a roll, so maybe he can bring peace to that region as well. Casey, today, 16th day of the government shutdown. What's the latest? Any crack in the door that we might see government open back up?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Tony, if there is a crack, it's too small for me to see. Senate Democrats, they blocked that Republican-backed defense funding bill you mentioned that was meant to pay the troops as we're here in day 16 of the government shutdown. Now, that bill in particular, it needed a procedural vote to allow the addition of other funding measures, but Democrats refused to participate in that without guarantees on what else would be included.
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And we're not going to pay $1.5 trillion ransom... to get Democrats to reopen government operations. That's right, Mr. President, $1.5 trillion. That's what Democrats are demanding.
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That was Senate Majority Leader John Thune, who's wanting to attach bills for transportation, health, and housing. But Democrats, of course, led by Chuck Schumer, are demanding clear agreements beforehand, citing deep mistrust between the parties. So with no deal in sight, lawmakers remain deadlocked, prolonging the shutdown and uncertainty over government funding. And of course, Tony, one of the most protracted sticking points continues to be the extension of those Obamacare subsidies.
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Well, let's talk about that for just a moment, Casey, because that was the $1.5 trillion that Senator Thune was making reference to. These Obamacare subsidies were supposed to be short term. They were a part of the Inflation Reduction Act that passed under the Biden administration that were in the COVID era. And it was designed to be simply temporary. They're supposed to expire the end of this year. but now they're wanting to extend them. What's behind this when it comes to the Democrats pushing for this?
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Yeah, so I think, you know, it's the Democrats are looking for a place to take a stand and they think they found it. And it comes at an interesting time as Senator Josh Hawley has introduced a new bill to stop taxpayer-backed health plans from covering those very things, abortions, and gender transition procedures for kids in Obamacare, though they will deny that's even happening. It is, of course. And Hawley's legislation, it will close those loopholes and that still allow coverage in some states with a few exceptions. And Hawley has a message that a lot on the right are echoing, which is it's time to protect kids and uphold Christian values in health care.
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It's going to be very interesting to watch because there's issues on two layers here. Number one, as we talked about, the extension of these COVID era subsidies, which really, I think, are designed to prop up a failed system, Obamacare, the ACA. But also, as you pointed out, which Senator Hawley is zeroing in on, is the underlying issue of the funding for abortion and gender care, gender transitions that is in the Obamacare legislation. Casey, this is obviously a very important issue for the Family Research Council, and we're working to convince Congress to eliminate these subsidies and these underlying programs that fund abortion. Thanks so much, Casey. I'm sure we're going to talk to you a bit later in the program, but thanks so much for bringing us up to date on the headlines for today. Folks, again, I want to remind you that coming up this weekend at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in Southern California is the PrayVoteStand Summit. To find out more and to register, you can go to PrayVoteStand.org. I want to go back to discuss the latest on the government shutdown from a congressional perspective and see if we're seeing any movement in getting the government up and running again. Joining me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Randy Weber. He serves on the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and co-chairs the Bipartisan Task Force for Combating Antisemitism. He represents the 14th Congressional District of Texas. Congressman Weber, thanks so much for joining us. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thank you, Tony. We appreciate all y'all do. Thank you. Before we get into a conversation about the shutdown, which really hasn't changed a whole lot, I want to get your reaction to the news coming out today that President Trump may meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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Well, I tell you what, if you look at President Trump's record, he's been doing great things around the world, and people have started listening to him. Will Vladimir Putin do it? Your guess is as good as mine. I tell you what, the president is doing some really good stuff. I'm glad to see him continue to make that effort and, dare I say, put pressure on the Russians. I'm glad to see them meeting, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you think it was the threat of giving the Patriot missiles to, I'm sorry, the Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine? Ukraine.
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Well, not only that, but of course, European Union, as you know, and NATO is on board now. And so maybe that will build, maybe that threat added to it. so that Putin would think, hey, this guy is serious. Of course, if he's watching what's going on over the Middle East, he knows that Trump is serious. I just don't know how crazy Vladimir Putin really is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, let's turn now to the government shutdown, Randy. What's the latest you're hearing? I mean, earlier today, the Senate Democrats blocked the annual full-year defense appropriations bill. I mean, this is a bipartisan piece of legislation that always passes. What's going on?
SPEAKER 11 :
Tony, well, here's what's going on. Our great president, as we just talked about, is making a lot of changes around the world. People are sitting up and listening to him. knowing that there's a new sheriff in town. It's not what I call O'Biden, because I think he's Obama's third term, in the office anymore. It's Donald Trump, and he means what he says. So I think what the Democrats are doing is they don't... Tony, even though they have voted three times in the past for this level of spending, I'm not saying that spending is not out of control because... I got involved when Reagan ran for relation to 83 as a Republican back then. We had a saying that there's too much waste, fraud and abuse, right, coming out of Congress. It's still that way. And now finally, to this point, we have a chance to make a difference. But the Democrats don't want to do that, Tony, because it would give President Trump more credibility. They don't want him to have the option to sign that bill into law.
SPEAKER 07 :
Also, where the Democrats have chosen to take a stand over these premium subsidies for Obamacare, which were designed really to prop it up, are they fearful, you think, that it implodes and therefore they have to keep propping it up?
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I think they are. And remember, too, Tony, I know you've been paying attention. You guys do a really great job. We love Washington Watch. But remember this, too. The Democrats have been saying the Republicans are trying to destroy Medicaid. No, we're not. We're taking out all the people of Medicaid that don't deserve to be on Medicaid, young single male adults of age, of course, that should be out getting a job and not sitting on their, you know, what's at home drawing Medicaid. And then we've got illegals that are drawing Medicaid. These are the ones that we're focused on, and the Democrats can't stand it.
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Randy, we just have about a little over a minute left. I'm going to turn for a moment to Israel. You've been there recently, obviously major developments there this week. But the president telling Hamas, if you don't lay down your arms, if you're killing others, you're going to get killed yourself. How do you see this playing out?
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Well, let's watch it and see. I'm glad he did. Now, you probably know this. A sniper, a Hamas sniper, was it yesterday, I think? I think it was the day before yesterday, shot and killed an Israeli soldier, even though that disagreement in principle had been reached on the front end. Still, one of our great Israeli IDFs lost his life because Hamas are killers. And that's the point here. If you read their charter from back in when it was 1984 or 5, I think, they literally say their job is to kill all Jews and destroy the state of Israel. I don't think they can be trusted. I hope and pray we don't have to shed American blood over there, but Israel is our greatest neighbor and ally. And so we'll see what happens, what Hamas does going forward.
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Yeah, certainly something to continue to pray about. Congressman Randy Weber, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you, Tony. Appreciate you guys. All right. And folks, I do want to encourage you to continue to pray. There's a plan in place, but will it hold? There's a long history, and it's spiritual and biblical. We need to be praying into it. All right, don't go away. We're back after this.
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For over 4,000 years, the Jewish people have had legal, historical, and biblical ties to the land of Israel, especially the heartland of Israel, Judea and Samaria, which much of the world still calls the West Bank. To Israelis, Judea and Samaria is far more than a name. It's the center of their ancestral homeland where nearly 80% of the Bible's events took place. Abraham purchased property in Hebron, Jacob in Shechem, Joshua made an altar on Mount Ebal and led the Israelites into a covenant before God. On Mount Gerizim, overlooking Shechem, Jesus talked to the Samaritan woman at the well about worshiping neither on Mount Gerizim nor in Jerusalem, but in spirit and in truth. Judea and Samaria is nearly a quarter of Israel's current land mass, not a small strip of land on the Jordan River, but a vital and strategic part of the nation's identity. The October 7th massacre, launched from Gaza, shattered the illusion that giving away territory brings peace. Gaza, which was once seen as the cornerstone of a two-state solution, became a launchpad for terror. Today, only 21 percent of Israelis support a Palestinian state. Trust in a two-state solution has all but collapsed. The Middle East is changing. Iran's grip is weakening. New alliances are forming. But Western countries and some U.S. officials still chase the mirage of a two-state solution. History speaks clearly. The 2005 Gaza withdrawal, backed by the U.S., led not to peace, but to a terrorist regime. Judea and Samaria are 24 times larger than Gaza, deeply woven into Israel's geographic and spiritual fabric. To surrender them would not bring peace. It would invite conflict and existential danger. Family Research Council stands with Israel's rightful claim to sovereignty. It's time for America to do the same for history, for justice, and for lasting security in the Middle East. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us here on this Thursday as we broadcast from the studios of Real Life Network in Southern California in preparation for the PrayVoteStand Summit, which begins tomorrow here at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. To find out more, go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. There's still time. to make it. Yesterday, we were talking with Congressman Riley Moore of West Virginia, and we got to the end of the conversation regarding his call, which coincides with the calls of many others, to have Nigeria designated as a country of particular concern by the Trump administration. Back during the previous Trump administration, when I was serving as chairman of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, we petitioned the State Department, then run by Mike Pompeo, and they declared for the first time after many years of the USURF calling for the State Department to designate Nigeria is a country of particular concern, which means there are certain tools that the federal government can use, financial tools, diplomatic tools, to draw attention to their really persecution of religious minorities, in this case Christians. In fact, Nigeria is, if you're a Christian, the most dangerous place in the world to be living. So there is mounting pressure for the Trump administration to once again declare Nigeria as a country of particular concern. about Nigeria and China is the Vice President of Policy at the Family Research Council, Travis Weber. Travis, welcome to Southern California.
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Thank you, Tony. It's good to be with you.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know that you've been tracking all of this very, very closely. What's the latest on what appears to be a building momentum by non-governmental organizations for the Trump administration to reestablish this designation? That's correct.
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You know, Tony, we're really encouraged by the status of things. And what I mean by that is we see more and more members of Congress speaking out about this. You reference Congress some more. We've had Ted Cruz and Chris Smith introduce bills on this issue. Other members are tweeting, putting public statements out. You know, Ted Budd was asking us about it the other week. We have a crescendo building. Senator from
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in North Carolina.
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That's exactly right. And so we're doing our part to do what we can to get the word out, as well as talking to the administration about this.
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So give our viewers, unless there's a little insight into the situation there.
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Yeah, so it's Africa's most populous country. it is almost evenly split between Christians and Muslims. And when you consider the continent, as we think about the Islamist push from the north spreading south in Africa, Africa is the world's most populated Christian continent, too. 742 million Christians on the continent.
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Africa is the tender... By the way, it's also very... conservative orthodoxy, from an orthodox standpoint. In fact, that's what kept the Methodist Church together for so long was the African Methodist Church.
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Right. So the African Christians are often holding the line on the biblical values globally these days, right? In addition, you have communities of Christians being attacked and killed. As you mentioned, more Christians, they're killed. Anywhere else in the world, it's tragic. It's tragic. So what we're trying to do is raise the awareness of this issue in Washington,
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct me if I'm wrong, Travis, but in this situation what you have is a government Very similar to India. The government's not doing it, but it is turning a blind eye to it.
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Looking the other way, and they want to escape attention on this. They were very upset when Ted Cruz introduced his bill because the media over there started talking about Cruz being concerned about the Nigerian government's failure to do enough. And they responded to that. So that tells us they don't like the attention. And as you mentioned, the CPC designation, that's what that does. That's part of what that designation does. It puts them on the list. They have to then talk to our government to say, what do we have to do to get off this list?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, didn't we testify, I testified before a subcommittee on the House side, the House Foreign Affairs Committee, on Nigeria. And I think one of the witnesses that was from Nigeria faced some backlash when he went home.
SPEAKER 17 :
He absolutely did. This is a high-ranking leader in the Roman Catholic Church in Nigeria. facing reaction from his own government for coming to the United States and testifying. So just like in China, you know, it's perhaps more extreme in China, but you see the governments of these places do not want to spotlight put on them. But Tony, you know, as you testified to at that hearing, as members engaged you and the other witnesses, we saw attention being put on this area of of accountability and justice. And what the government has to do is ensure security is brought to these areas. These attacks, you know, are different in some ways, but they are religiously divisive in the country.
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And so these Christian communities need to protect. It could very quickly become a humanitarian crisis as being the most populist country. Christians begin to flee that area, it's going to destabilize the region. We just have a couple minutes left. Let's go to another situation that's much different. This persecution is coming at the hands of government, and we're talking about China.
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Yeah, so the Chinese Communist Party clearly concerned about the strength and impact of the church in China, in this case the underground church, and specifically Zion Church, a very significant influential network of churches who folks, some may recall, stood up under COVID and continue to practice and exercise their religious freedom. They've now received repercussion at the hands of the government there with a number of leaders arrested, tamed across cities, across their entire network, and that's now spread to other networks. Thankfully, this is getting attention in Washington. Secretary Rubio put out a statement. We're doing our part to raise this with the administration and Capitol Hill as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, we talk about China a lot on this program because China is just, quite frankly, a bad actor, and religious persecution is one of the things that they do well. They do a lot of surveillance of their citizens. So what makes this different?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, so Tony, I think it's significant in that it is a detention of, I don't want to say the most, but let me just say a very significant leader and group of leaders in the underground church, which could number at a minimum 60 million, possibly up to 100 million or more believers in China. So this could have a massive effect on the other leaders and churches in the underground church as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
And part of the charges against him was unauthorized communications from them actually broadcasting their messages?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, but it's tough to tell what the government, you know, they will state a charge will be for X reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
Something we take for granted here in this country, that you would have your sermons, you know, you would broadcast your Sunday morning service on the web. Right.
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And it's likely the government knew about what was happening before, but chose now to make their move. And we don't know all the reasons for that, but we see it coming at a time in which the world's attention is focused on the Middle East. Perhaps they're concerned about the rising influence of the church.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we just have about 30 seconds left. Is this something we're going to be praying about this weekend at the Pray, Vote, Stand Summit?
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. We need to pray and call the U.S. Church to intercede on behalf of their brothers and sisters all around the world. Tony, because as you've commented before, the church in a society is the source of blessing for that society as the church makes its voice and its presence known.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, what we prioritize at home, we will promote abroad. Very important. Thank you, Travis, for joining us. All right, coming up, Los Angeles County has declared a state of emergency. But are they looking at what the real emergency is here in California? We're going to discuss that next here on Washington Watch. So don't go away. More straight ahead.
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The family is the oldest, most tested and most reliable unit of society. It is divinely created and sustained. And yet there are those who are always tampering with its values and structure. That's why we need organizations like the Family Research Council that can effectively defend and strengthen the family.
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It's just a wonderful parachurch organization that doesn't seek to take the place of the church, but it seeks to assist the family and the church as we try to move forward successfully, not in a defensive mode, but in an offensive mode as we seek to live our lives according to the Holy Scriptures.
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You will never see in front of this building here in Washington, D.C., a white flag flying. We will never step back. We will never surrender. And we will never be silent. Back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. Make sure you have the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store and get the Stand Firm app. As I mentioned, it all starts tomorrow here at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. And guess what? The left is all stirred up, and for good reason, because we're coming together to pray, equip believers to vote biblically, and to stand for truth, no matter what. So if you live in Southern California, there's still time to register and join us in person. Now, if you're not in the area, you can still be a part of this event. If you have the StandFirm app, at least most of the event, go to the App Store and get the StandFirm app or go to PrayVoteStand.org to register and to find out more. Well, earlier this week, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted 4-1 to declare a local state of emergency in response to federal immigration enforcement operations in America's most populous county. One member of the progressive-dominated board said that the emergency proclamation allows the county to use every tool available to support and stabilize our communities, she said. We will not stand by while fear and chaos spread, she went on to say. Well, there is certainly an emergency here in California, but it's not because of immigration enforcement. because of the attack on parental rights. Joining me now to discuss this is Jonathan Keller. He is the president and CEO of the California Family Council, which is the family policy council here in California that accomplishes at the state level what the Family Research Council does on the national level. Jonathan, great to see you.
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Thanks, Tony. Always good to be with you and the listeners.
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And you're going to be a part of this weekend. I know you guys have been helping us get the word out, so we appreciate that. Appreciate the great work you do here in California. You've got a a big hill to climb here in California. We do.
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Let's talk about 495. Yeah, so AB495 is really, I think, one of the most concerning pieces of legislation that we've seen come out of the Capitol in Sacramento in quite some time. We always see a little bit of craziness. We have some truly I think, beyond the pale legislators up there. In this case, actually, this kind of came out of left field, as much of what happens in Sacramento does. It's a freshman legislator, not one of the usual suspects who has been attacking parental rights for so long. But in this case, they used this really clever Trojan horse. As you mentioned, it deals with immigration. The idea behind this bill, the best case you could make for it is they're trying to pitch it as a way to protect parents and protect children from the dangers of ICE and the dangers of the Trump administration who are carelessly and heartlessly deporting parents. But in reality, what this is doing is creating a massive loophole for non-parents, for even non-relatives to go in and potentially take control, take authority away from parents even start making educational and medical decisions for minor children, not only without parental involvement, but without even parental knowledge or consent.
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let's say that their motives were pure, that they were, well, I say pure, at least their intentions were what they said they were, to simply address this issue of immigration. This, as you know, Jonathan, having been in the process for a while, there are always unintended consequences, especially when you rush something through like this. So even if the intent was, as they stated, simply to address the issue of children that may be connected to parents being deported. There are unintended consequences here that they've refused to deal with.
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That's really the concern, Tony. I mean, again, I think every parent out there would want their own children if something happened to them. If, God forbid, my wife and I were in a car accident, of course we would want our two young sons to be placed with the next of kin, our family members. That's not what this is about. This bill is so much broader than this. Despite the fact that they have tried to amend it and revise it in the 11th hour to say, well, This is going to apply to anyone who is deported, detained, or deployed. They're trying to actually, if you can believe it, loop in families in the military and say, well, this is a way to try to protect even children of military families. Again, that's not what this is about at war.
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We have provisions to do that now. We don't need that. So this could I mean, this state where you have a governor that promotes gender transition surgeries for minors advertising nationwide for minors to come here for abortions. That's the kind of stuff we're potentially talking about.
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Oh, absolutely. And the real concern, again, about this, the caretaker authorization affidavit that we're dealing with here. Under the new version of this, it is going to allow a non, or I should say a family member, I use scare quotes, because the family member authorization includes anybody that is up to a fifth degree of kinship to be able to come in, sign this, and say, yeah, I'm authorized to make medical or educational decisions for this child. Does not require an attorney to... No notarization, not even a parental signature. And And Tony, I want to say, you know this as a former legislator and being in D.C. for so long, one of the really insidious bait and switch they did on this. Some people might see the news reports that said, well, no, no, they removed the section that says no parental signature is required. That's true, but they did not insert a section that says a parental signature is required. So it's this very clever, again, Trojan horse to make it seem like they're protecting parents, but it's a real danger. But it's now law. Governor Newsom signed it. Yeah. And this is something that is going to immediately start to affect families. And I would strongly encourage everybody. You guys have done yeoman's work on this, and we've been able to, of course, pastor with a partner with Pastor Jack and the folks here at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, I encourage all parents to revise their existing caretaking arrangements. I encourage you to go look at your emergency contact list if your kids are in public school. Make sure that it is clear in writing, you, your spouse, your family, Only people you designate should be authorized to make any decisions for your child.
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By the way, we're going to be talking about that this weekend here at the PrayVoteStand Summit. So we need to encourage people to come and be a part of that, find out what they can do to protect their children. But the other aspect is what happens in California, unfortunately, doesn't always stay here.
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This is coming to a blue state near you. That's right. Jonathan Keller, thanks so much for joining us. Look forward to having you here this weekend. Thanks. All right, folks, you heard it. Man, we got to be prepared. So I hope you will join us for the Pray, Vote, Stand Summit here at Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. All right, don't go away. We're coming back. Daniel Cohen joins me here on Washington Watch right after the break.
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Three years ago, the Supreme Court issued its historic Dobbs decision, a ruling that overturned Roe versus Wade, which for nearly 50 years imposed abortion on demand, silencing voters and bypassing the democratic process across the country. The Dobbs decision was a huge step forward against abortion, but it didn't outright ban it. It returned the power to the people. Now, 29 states have laws on the books protecting life. However, there's a catch. Abortion numbers since Dobbs have actually gone up with an increase of 12% since 2020, climbing from 930,000 to over 1 million in each of the most recent years. So how can this be? The answer is simple, the abortion drug. Today, over 60% of U.S. abortions involve abortion drugs, many of these without medical oversight. In 2021, the Biden administration quietly removed bare minimum longstanding safety protocols for the abortion drug that have existed for 20 years to protect women from life threatening risks and ensuring informed consent. The Biden DOJ then declared that they would not enforce the Comstock Act, which prevents the mailing of anything that causes an abortion. This is not only illegal, but also dangerous. A study shows nearly 11% of women who take the abortion drug end up in the emergency room with serious complications. Unless the Trump administration reverses these reckless Biden-era policies, pro-life laws will remain largely symbolic. Without a full review and repeal of Mifepristone, unborn lives will remain in grave danger and pregnant mothers will remain at risk. Let's stand for life and end this mail order abortion drug pipeline. Sign the petition urging the Trump administration to take action at frc.org slash stop chemical abortion.
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All right. Welcome back to Washington Watch as we broadcast from the Real Life Network studios in Chino Hills, California. And guess what? It all starts tomorrow, as I mentioned, right here at Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. And the left is stirred up. In fact, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Southern Impoverished Law Center, I should say, putting out notifications that we're gathering here. You know what? They should be stirred up because we're coming together to pray. And you know what? When God's people pray, things happen. We're also going to equip believers to vote biblically, and we're going to encourage them and equip them to stand for truth, no matter what comes our way. Here's the reality. We're not going to shrink back into the shadows, and we're not going to go away and be silent. So if you live here in Southern California, there is still time to register and join us in person. If you're not in the area, you can still be a part of most of the event through the StandFirm app. Go to Prevotestand.org to register or download the StandFirm app to join us virtually. Well, our word for today comes from Romans chapter 5. And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance and perseverance character in and character hope. You know what? When we're reconciled to God through faith in Christ, look at the benefits that flow into our lives. We have peace with God. We're no longer his enemies, but his children, secure in his love and forgiveness. We have access to God's grace, the door to his favor. We have the hope of heaven. Knowing our eternal destination gives us purpose and joy on this journey we call life. We also have joy, even in tribulation. Anchored in God's promises, we can endure hardships with confidence, knowing he is shaping our character and strengthening our faith. What Satan means for harm, God uses for good, to produce perseverance, proven character, and a steadfast hope that never disappoints. To join us in our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. That's BIBLE to 67742. All right, as we've been talking about at the beginning of the program, the delicate ceasefire between Israel and Hamas is looking more and more fragile, with phase one of the peace plan already suggesting Hamas will not fully comply with the terms of the agreement. Hamas says it has handed over the bodies of all the deceased hostages that they can get access to, but Israel believes the terror group still has more that it can easily release and are thus violating the agreement. Meanwhile, reports of Hamas members executing collaborators and so-called traitors, as they call them, in Gaza has prompted President Trump to issue this warning. Quote, if Hamas continues to kill people in Gaza, which was not the deal, we will have no choice but to go in and kill them, end quote. So is the measured peace in Gaza in jeopardy? Joining me now to discuss this is Daniel Cohen, host of The Daniel Cohen Show, which recently launched on the Real Life Network. Daniel. Hey, Tony. Good to be with you. How are you? Thanks for joining us in your studio.
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Yeah, might as well. Your studio now, huh? That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's great to have you. Great to be partners with the Real Life Network. They're hosting us here. And plus, Washington Watch is on the Real Life Network as well.
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Yeah. You know, there's something really important. of what President Trump just said, and it was the very last sentence. Thank you for your attention to this matter. When President Trump says that, that is Trump's way of saying I'm not bluffing, I'm not kidding around, that I mean it. And if nothing else, we've seen that President Trump means it. Yeah, Prime Minister Netanyahu even today has said that they know exactly how many hostages are left, how many of these they return to, more bodies overnight. The final female hostage, the body of the final female hostage has been returned. There are 19 left, is what we understand, to American. And everyone's asking the question, so what about these other 19? Why have they not been returned? Is it because they don't know what state, the condition of the bodies? Or have they been so badly brutalized? I don't know what the right word is. Is that why they haven't been returned? But to me, I believe Hamas has already reneged. They've already broken the agreements of the ceasefire. And it seems like President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu, look, it's conditional. And so phase one is holding. We got the living hostages back. Where does it go from here? These are really important moments right now. I encourage everybody, please be praying, praying for Israel and praying, of course, always for the peace of Jerusalem.
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I mean, Israel, number one, their intelligence is great. They pretty much know what's been happening on the ground over there. They have human intelligence and other forms of intelligence as well. But they also have very good forensics. And Hamas knows that Israel will be able to determine what happened to those hostages.
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Absolutely the best. You know, Tony, today the IDF actually shared a photo of Yaya Sinwar, who masterminded the October 7th terror attack. It was one year ago tomorrow that Israel eliminated him. And so they re-shared a photo today, a photo that's never been seen before, Yaya Sinwar. It just reinforces the fact that Israel knows. There's the long arm of justice, the long arm of the Lamina. It took time to find Yaya Sinwar, but they can find anybody that they want to find. And so, you know, Israel's powerful. Israel, and by the way, all credit to President Trump on this, Tony. You know, I say President Trump is more popular in Israel than Prime Minister Netanyahu. He is. His approval rating in Israel is something like 250%. I mean, everyone there, right, left, middle, doesn't matter, love President Trump because he delivered. And Israel's been waiting two years for this moment of delivery.
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They wanted to get the hostages home. But you and I were talking earlier, there's a lot of celebration here. and rightfully so for these hostages that have been released, that have been held in unspeakable conditions for the last two years. I've met and you've met with some of the hostages that have been released during the course of these last two years, families of hostage members. but those that their loved ones are not coming home.
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Yeah, yeah. There's been a lot of focus on the 20, the living hostages, and there's been euphoria. There has been pure elation, pure joy, but it seems like it's always tempered. And that's a really important point that you just made, and a lot of the media and a lot of the world have missed as everyone's moving forward and celebrating rightfully the living hostages, but there are families that are receiving dead bodies. Some aren't receiving any bodies. Some are being told they don't know where the bodies are. And so there's still a deep amount of grief and pain. Israel is still a nation in trauma. And it's not the kind of pain that is going to be healed overnight or even in a few weeks. It's going to take months, but at least I feel like we're on the road, but we shouldn't forget about the dead hostages and those families.
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I would also say in the Jewish tradition, the burial of someone is... I don't want to say more significant, but a lot more is placed on it in the Jewish tradition than here in the United States.
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Yeah, I mean, in Israel, we celebrate life. Am Yisrael Chai. The nation of Israel lives. That's what Am Yisrael Chai means. When someone dies, you sit Shiva. There's a period of mourning, all right? And we know that. Israel celebrates life, which is why Israel... had to empty out its prisons. I mean, Israel gave out, what, almost 2,000? And some of these people are Osama bin Laden types. These weren't people that broke a window or got into a minor fender bender. These are people who were convicted, who were behind bars because they committed terrorists. Exactly. They committed acts of terror. It just goes to prove, you know, have you seen, Tony, the way that Hamas has handed over some of these dead bodies? Wrapped in a plastic tarp, thrown out of an SUV, sitting on the ground. There's no value of life. There's no respect. So there's no respect for the living or the dead. And it couldn't highlight larger the difference between Israel and Gaza.
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It prevents many of these families from closure that they've been longing for. You brought up something I want to talk about for just a moment. The nearly 2,000 criminals, terrorists, that were released, they went to Ramallah. Ramallah is not in Gaza. Ramallah is in Judea and Samaria.
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Yeah, thank you. You're right for saying it that way.
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Because this poses another threat to Israel.
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Yes, there was a terror attack. They're ongoing, and they happen so often. They don't get reported in the Western media every day. There was a shooting outside of Modine, two guys on a motorcycle. And it was less than 24 hours since Israel emptied out their prisons. And so it didn't take long. I don't know if those events are connected. I don't know if they're feeling more emboldened. But look, Hamas has been weakened. Hezbollah has been weakened. Iran, they've all been weakened. Everybody who's gone to war with Israel, who has, I should tell everybody in case they don't know this, Israel has never attacked an Arab neighbor. Did you know that? Since 1948 when Israel was reconstituted, Israel makes up four-tenths of 1% of the Middle East. Israel has only ever responded after being attacked. And by the way, the attack that took place when Israel took out the Iranian nuclear facilities in June, That wasn't Israel going on the offensive. That was Israel responding to October 7th and responding. Israel's mighty, and it's because it's God's covenant nation. When will they learn, right? Like, when will they learn? You mess with God's covenant people, it's not going to end well, and it's the pattern that's been repeated over and over.
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So let's talk about that for a moment, because this war in Gaza was with Hamas, right? These terrorists have been released into Judea and Samaria, which is under Palestinian control, the Palestinian Authority. Are we propping up or positioning another conflict?
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Look, this is the question. I mean, we hear President Trump talking about peace, and now the mother of all Middle East peace deals, hopefully expansion of the Abraham Accords is coming. There's a peace, but it's a fragile peace. It always has been. But we know what the Bible says. So when we hear even President Trump say, we hope it lasts forever and ever. Well, we all hope. But we know that there won't be a permanent peace until Jesus comes back. There won't be a permanent peace until Yeshua, until the Messiah comes back, and he makes everything right. So I'm celebrating my friends, my family, my neighbors. Everyone has been so deeply and profoundly affected by October 7th, Tony. Our family best friends where we live just outside of Tel Aviv, Our family best friends had five cousins kidnapped on October 7. You have to understand, this isn't a, oh, I know a guy, or I worked with a guy. Everyone has been deeply affected. By the way, of those five, those cousins, two were murdered right away, an 80-year-old with a heart condition, a 13-year-old that was on the spectrum with autism. Two children, they were released in November right after the October 7th invasion. And then their father wasn't released until something like a year later. And so it affects everyone deeply and personally. I just want you to know Israel is still very much a nation in trauma.
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And they will be for some time. But this also speaks to this peace agreement. There's been... Almost 20 conflicts in the 75 years that Israel has been around. And in the last two decades, I think about 10 conflicts, mostly with Hamas. And there's been peace agreements and truces each time, but they've been very fragile. So I think we have to go in understanding, number one, the history of the land and the people, that they've always had hostile neighbors. So vigilance is required. Israel wants closure. I mean, this is the longest, most protracted engagement that they've had. Everybody's been touched by it, as you mentioned. But they also know that peace is very fragile. And you hear that in Prime Minister Netanyahu's statements. We're not settling for peace until we have peace.
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Can I take it to the Bible, Tony, is that okay? I think on this show that's fine, right? You can do that here. Look, I want to take it even to the United States, right? Because this is a moment to be bold. This is a moment to speak up, okay? This weekend, you were just mentioning before you welcomed me, the protesters that are going to be right outside here at Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. And what are they saying on Saturday? What are they saying this weekend? That there are no kings. Well, that's not true. There's one king. It's Yeshua. It's Jesus. There's one king, and he's on the throne. And it's important that Christians speak up. I live in Israel, and I understand the vitriol, the hatred that Hamas has been able, the antisemitism, that they've been able, this frenzy that they've been able to whip up around the world. It's important. If you're a Christian, if you understand the Genesis 12, the concept, It's also Numbers 24.9. I will bless those who bless you. I don't think living in Israel, we can't afford to just let anyone go. When someone, where there's low-hanging fruit, I want to reach out to them. That's what the Daniel Cohen Show, the Real Life Network, we speak boldly. We say this is what the Bible says. You want to be blessed? This is how you're blessed. Thank you, Tony, for how powerfully you've always spoken up for Israel. How many times have we met in Israel? Two, three times since I've known you. I appreciate that. Revelation 21. Revelation 21, 8, it's talking about the new Jerusalem and who we will see in the new Jerusalem. Number one, who will we not see? The very first character attribute, it says the cowardly. Cowards. Those who are vile, the murderers, the this, the that. Cowards. This is a moment. Now, what am I saying? I'm not saying commit acts of violence. I'm saying speak up. Use whatever platform, wherever you're at. The Lord brought my family to Israel. You, using your platform, speak up just to tell the truth about Israel. And if you've been, when I tell anybody who's come to Israel, when you go back, I deputize them. And I say, when you go home, tell everyone what you saw.
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Let me ask you about that for just a moment. I've been there five times since October the 7th. Wow. This is my sense. You tell me if I'm wrong or not because you're there all the time. But because evangelicals, Bible-believing Christians have stood, not just with Israel, but with the Jewish people as this wave of anti-Semitism has really... encompass the globe. Is that speaking to the Jewish people?
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The Jewish heart en masse, if I can paint with a broad brush, has been ripped, ripped open after October 7th. We have seen people in our congregation that we go to Excuse me. We're seeing Jewish people come to faith in Yeshua. We've seen people make professions. I've seen other Jewish friends of mine being baptized in the Jordan. And so I just think this is an incredible moment right now. This is an incredible moment for the church. This is an incredible moment for you, if you have a Jewish friend, a neighbor, or someone that you work with. But to speak up again, to be bold. I mean, think about it. Again, back to this weekend. We're Christian nationalists. We're spewing hate. Hey, if falling on our knees after Charlie Kirk is assassinated, if trying to commune with the Holy Spirit, if trying to find that peace from the God of comfort, from the Holy Spirit, the great comforter, if that makes me a Christian nationalist, I will wear that badge proudly. I will wear that badge with honor. Call me a Christian nationalist if instead of resorting to violence, I resort to prayer. And I pray for the peace of Jerusalem. And I pray for my neighbors, especially my Jewish friends.
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And our enemies. And our enemies. We'll be praying for those that are out in the streets tomorrow. We just have about 30 seconds left. Daniel, would you pray for us? Pray for the summit. Pray for the Jewish people. Pray for this moment for Christians to be bold. Sure. Thank you, Lord.
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It says, blessed are the peacemakers. And that's the first thing that came to my heart when Tony asked me to pray, Lord. So we just speak that out boldly. We speak that out over Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. Pray, vote, stand. Three very important concepts, Lord. We pray. I hope we wear out our knees. Everyone, either watching online or here in person in Chino Hills, Lord, that we would just fall on our knees in prayer and say, Lord, we surrender. We surrender to you. We surrender to your plan. You have a plan. Your ways are not our ways. You're a good, good father. You love us. And, Lord, I pray for a salvation, even for just one, one of these Antifa-like type, these leftist, Lord, whoever shows up, Lord, I pray that they would be hit by the gospel and they would know the truth and they would be saved in Yeshua's name.
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Thank you, Daniel. Folks, thanks for joining us. PrayVoteStand.org.
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Join us on Sekulow as we delve into FBI Director Kash Patel's shocking revelations about ongoing corruption investigations. Could this be the beginning of much-needed accountability for deep-seated corruption within the powerful elite? With host Will Haines, we unravel these complex issues and explore how this could reshape our justice system.
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Today on Sekulow, FBI Director Kash Patel issues a warning that he believes more indictments are coming.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host...
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Welcome to Sekulow. I'm Will Haines. And there's a new warning for the deep state. And it's not coming from a critic on the outside. It's not coming from a show like ours that analyzes what we see and tells you the ramifications of it. But it's coming from someone who knows, at this point, exactly how deep the corruption runs. FBI Director Kash Patel told Just the News, friend of this broadcast, led by John Solomon, that indictments, the indictments that we've seen so far are, quote, just the beginning. He says investigators are chasing criminal activity by people in positions of power and that after 20 years of building what he calls a diseased temple of corruption, these walls are finally starting to crack. If he's right, This could finally be that moment of accountability that so many of us have been calling for for a very long time now. And just after this break, I will play you exactly what the FBI director said so you can determine for yourself what you think. Do you think this is more of the same? Are you jaded by what we've seen over decades of promises of accountability and no action? Or do you think that this could finally be the moment that all of the corruption gets uncovered and people are held accountable and the system is fixed? Because it's not just about holding people accountable. It's about making sure these things never happen again. And by the words of the director, it sounds like that's his goal, too. But I also want to hear from you. I want you to call me at 1-800-684-3110. Let me know what you think about this. We'll play exactly what he said in just a few moments when we get back from a break. But we have a packed show today. We have Secretary Mike Pompeo joining us to talk about a phone call that President Trump is on right now with Vladimir Putin. And if the momentum from the Gaza peace deal that President Trump was able to secure and is working towards, if that could carry over into some of these other conflicts that have been a big agenda item for the president ever since he was running for president to put it into. How does Vladimir Putin see what President Trump was able to pull off in Gaza with a terrorist group and the state of Israel? So we're going to get to that as well. We also have Rick Grinnell joining us. He will be discussing that as well, as well as a very interesting programming that they had at the Kennedy Center, because it's not what the news is telling you. What the media wants you to believe about what Rick Grinnell has done at the Kennedy Center is not what is actually taking place at the Kennedy Center. And we'll talk about that with him as well. But once again, these comments from the FBI director, they come at a time where we've seen indictments already. We've seen James Comey indicted for false statements to Congress. We've seen Letitia James indicted for mortgage fraud. And there's reporting that even today a grand jury was convened and was presented by the government, by the Department of Justice, an indictment against former National Security Advisor John Bolton for transmitting classified information, something he was highly critical of the president for allegedly doing when Jack Smith was looking at the retention of classified documents by the former president, President Trump. John Bolton had a lot to say about that. But then it appears that he had classified documents. I believe he called it extremely reckless. He was doing something very similar. And it's even alleged, according to a probable cause warrant, that his email account that he was sending these documents out of the government's safe places to his own personal email account had been hacked by foreign actors. So not taking due care to protect the secrets and national security of this country. But all of these things that are in the news, Kash Patel is saying is just the beginning. So we will see. And I'll play for you when we get back. exactly what Kash Patel told John Solomon just yesterday about what's coming. And we'll talk about it. Once again, call me at 1-800-684-3110. And remember, the ACLJ has been fighting this for a very long time. We've been filing FOIAs to uncover the truth, giving that to Congress, giving that to the American people to see the transparency. And that is one of the reasons why you support this organization. Support us today at ACLJ.org. Welcome back to Sekulow. I'm Will Haines, and I'm going to get right back into this topic that we started about. This is Kash Patel, the director of the FBI, sat with John Solomon of Just the News yesterday and gave an interview about what they're doing at the FBI, about some of these indictments that we've already seen. And what's coming next? And I wanted to play that for you right at the top of this segment so we can kind of frame our conversation. I see many of you are already starting to call in. And after you hear this, if you have thoughts on it, call me at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. But let's go ahead and play this. This is John Solomon asking a question to director Kash Patel about these indictments we've already seen. That would be James Comey, Letitia James, what is expected, John Bolton. He even makes reference to that by saying indictments you've seen and some that may be coming. He says they're just the beginning. So let's go ahead and play bite one. This is John Solomon with Kash Patel.
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Beyond those who are already charged, do you think you've seen other crimes that might eventually get referred to justice?
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Yes, we are looking at so many different leads on criminal activity by those who are in positions of power. And we're not going to stop until every single one of those is fully exposed, the documents are provided either to Congress or the courts of law, and make every referral we can to the Department of Justice. these indictments that you've seen and the ones that you're going to see coming up here in this near future are just the beginning but i have to remind the audience one thing everybody's like it's seven months what have you guys been doing well they spent 20 years building this disease temple of corruption it takes a little bit of time to to defeat it and beat it down i'm not asking you to trust me i'm asking you to look at the work the men and women of the fbi have done so far in these seven eight months and just imagine what we're going to do come the year end
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Imagine what we're going to do come the year end talking about they have spent 20 years building this diseased temple of corruption. And it also strikes me because we talked yesterday on the show about Jack Smith, about how he gave that interview and how there was a letter from the Judiciary Committee in the House from Jim Jordan, the chairman there, asking for information about his special counsel investigation into President Trump. He had multiple. Actually, it was one related to obstruction of the official proceedings and January 6th, as well as the classified documents. probe that jack smith had going on down in florida and that is remember they raided the president's home they they were using phone records to get the phone records and spy on sitting senators eight of them and a member of the house and the team of jack smith wouldn't even answer the questions of the judiciary committee of were there any other members of congress swept up in this they took their fifth amendment privilege on a question that simple If they believed in what they were doing, that doesn't seem to be something that they would fear criminal jeopardy over if they were doing everything above board. Yet that is how they decided to respond to the oversight of the government, the constitutionally provided oversight of the Judiciary Committee over the Department of Justice and by proxy, the special counsel's office. But it struck me because we talked about that yesterday and there was that interview that Jack Smith did in London at the University College of London. And he talked about a lot of negative things. He was trying to contrast what he did in the prior Department of Justice with what. The president and Pam Bondi and Kash Patel are doing now. He tried to make it as if they are rogue. They are not the way this needs to operate. And there was this bite that that we didn't even play yesterday. But I want to play it now, because in contrast with the diseased temple of corruption that. that uh cash patel the director of the fbi is saying and what jack smith is trying to piously tell andrew weissman is how this should be run and how he operated let's go ahead and play bite two this is from jack smith with andrew weissman in london very safe place for free speech i've heard uh but let's go ahead and run what he said yesterday bite two
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You can't say, I want this outcome. Let me throw the rules out. That's why, frankly, you see all these conflicts between the career apolitical prosecutors I worked with, because they're being asked to do things that they think are wrong. And because they're not political people, they're not going to do them. And I think that explains why you've seen the resignations. You've seen people leave the department. It's not because they're enemies of one administration or the next. They worked through decades for different administrations. It's just they've been doing things apolitically forever. And when they're told, no, you've got to get this outcome no matter what, that is so contrary to how we were all raised as prosecutors.
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All right. I want to stop it right there because I want to push back and tell you why Jack Smith is an unserious person in this conversation. He said, you can't say I want this outcome. Let me throw the rules out. And he also said that you see all these conflicts between the career apolitical prosecutors I worked with because they're being asked to do things they think are wrong. And because they are not political people, they're not going to do them. And I think that explains why you're seeing all these resignations. If that is true. Jack Smith, I pose to you, and you're using this to criticize the Trump administration, the president who you investigated. Where were those serious apolitical prosecutors, career prosecutors that you worked with when James Comey said, I want this outcome, let me throw all the rules out? Where were they? Why weren't there mass resignations when James Comey himself interfered with the 2016 election multiple times by going around the Attorney General, going around the Justice Department to give press conferences about Hillary Clinton's email server? Where were these serious career apolitical prosecutors then? Why didn't they walk out at the DOJ because Attorney General Loretta Lynch couldn't get a handle on the FBI director? Or what about when the FBI director decided to send FBI agents in covertly, as if nothing were going on, to the White House in the early days of the Trump administration in 2016, 2017 really, and trying to get information out of Michael Flint. And when you were asked about that in the interview, why did they go? Because I sent them. Well, why did you do that? Because I could. Because they weren't organized yet. That's throwing out the rules so you can get the outcome you want. So if Jack Smith were a serious person and could have this piety about how he believes that the government and the justice system in America works, it's not that this is abnormal. As a matter of fact, these things that he's saying are abnormal, like prosecuting James Comey, are trying to get back to how justice should work in this country. He can't have it both ways. He can't say that these are just wanting an outcome, throwing out the book, and so therefore they're going after James Comey without criticizing James Comey for what he did to this country. And the hilarity of it being with Andrew Weissman himself, who was a part of Bob Mueller's team, which was the hoax perpetrated on this country by James Comey, by people in the Obama intelligence sphere, by saying that this Russia hoax even existed, and they perpetrated this on the country for years, wasted American taxpayer dollars, hamstrung the presidency. You can't take people seriously like this. And that is exactly... the diseased temple of corruption that Kash Patel is talking about. Because in reality, they are having it their way. And those prosecutors only resign out of protest when it's not the way that things have been done. But the way that things have been done have not been in line with how the Constitution set forward it to be done. These aren't political prosecutions. These are restoring justice in this country. But the media is going to keep saying, look, he's got a hit list. He's going after all these people. These people, if they are brought before a grand jury and indicted, first of all, he's also leaving off the fact they still have to go through the judicial process. They still have to be found guilty by a jury of their peers. It's not over once there's an indictment. So the entire conversation of these people that have been a part of this deep state, this diseased temple of corruption, that they're getting out there and speaking, they're trying to spin the narrative. It is pure propaganda because they are trying to make it seem like everything that this administration does is authoritarian. It is off the books. It is rogue. They're throwing the rules out when in reality they're going before a grand jury. James Comey never got a search warrant for the White House when he sent FBI agents in to go after Mike Flynn. That was throwing the rules out because he had an outcome he wanted. That's not how America works. In reality, what we're getting back to is that. But it's going to take a long time because it's been decades of this. It's entrenched. And so whenever you see something come out, the media, which has bought into the entrenched worldview of how things have been run, they're going to say this is authoritarian. This isn't playing by the rules. This is political retribution. When we've been living under regimes of political retribution for a very long time and they're starting to tear that down. And hopefully we see that this diseased temple of corruption is just a house of cards and it will crumble and that true justice will rise out of that. So once again, if you want to talk to me about this, call me at 1-800-684-3110. I've got two lines already on hold. So Julie and Michelle, I'll get to you very shortly. We have Secretary of State Mike Pompeo joining us in the next segment because President Trump right now is on the phone with Vladimir Putin. He has a meeting later with Vladimir Zelensky. We are going to see if the momentum from the Gaza peace deal can be carried forward. And if we can see all of these conflicts that broke out under Joe Biden, we'll go away. Welcome back to Seculo. I'm Will Haines, and I'm joined now by Senior Counsel for Global Affairs, Secretary Mike Pompeo. Secretary Pompeo, right now, the president of the United States is on the phone with Vladimir Putin. And he put this out on True Social. I am speaking to President Putin now. The conversation is ongoing, a lengthy one. And I will report the contents as will President Putin at its conclusion. Thank you for this attention to this matter. What we've seen is momentum coming out of this deal in Gaza. And now the president is having this phone call with Vladimir Putin ahead of a scheduled meeting with the president of Ukraine, Zelensky. If you had to guess, what do you think this conversation is like with the president having momentum, getting a peace deal that many said would never even get to phase one in Gaza? And now he looks like he's going to be putting pressure on the Russian president.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's great to be with you today. Look, I hate to predict an ongoing event in this way, but the context of this conversation is deeply different than it would have been even just a handful of weeks ago. Remember, not that long ago, President Trump met with Putin in Anchorage, where Putin was unwilling to actually lay down his weapons and enter into a ceasefire to have negotiations about a fuller resolution of this. Today, now we've seen what President Trump did, right? He unleashed the Israelis. They moved into Gaza. They took a strike into Doha. The president conducted Operation Midnight Hammer, right, demonstrating American power and resolve. And I think Putin must surely see the statements that President Trump has made over the last weeks about additional American weaponry, Tomahawk in particular, but I'm sure other weapons. American power projection tools as well. And I'm sure this conversation and the tone is very different than the one that they had just a few weeks ago, increasing the probability of President Trump being able to deliver some form of relief for Ukraine and for Europe in this conflict.
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And as you mentioned, there's that discussion about Tomahawk missiles escalating what the United States is willing to give to the Ukrainians as they have held their own for quite some time. They've had support from the NATO countries. They've had support from the United States. But this would take it to another level for the Ukrainians having access to this weaponry from the United States. And I feel like it's telling even that this call with Putin is happening prior to this meeting with Zelensky about this weaponry. And if you're the president of the United States, you've got to feel pretty good about your negotiating power after pulling off what even that phase one. So many people said this will never even get there in Gaza. This is another priority of the president's, though. He ran on ending the conflicts in Gaza as well as in Russia and Ukraine. You have to feel like that Vladimir Putin can't think that President Trump is bluffing at this point based off the history that we've seen with those things that you've mentioned, whether it be Iran, whether it be Gaza, whether it be the way that he has handled many of these conflicts already.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think that's true. I would throw in the work that he's doing on enforcing U.S. borders and the work he's doing counter-narcotics off the coast of Venezuela, right? All of those things give President Trump enormous credibility. It can't be the case for a second that Putin believes that Donald Trump is bluffing. Donald Trump doesn't bluff. It may or may not be the case that in the end those weapons are delivered, but it's not a bluff. It is about demonstrating to Vladimir Putin that it is time to lay down the weapons and conduct a ceasefire. So we'll see. The sequence of these calls is important. I think it was telling that he got on the phone with Putin before his meeting with Zelensky. He wants to know when he sees Zelensky tomorrow what the degrees of freedom are. He wants to know up to the minute exactly what Putin's view of this is. And then we should not forget for a second that over the last, really, 14 days, the Russians have engaged in attacks inside of Ukraine that have been bigger than any before. More missiles, more drones, more firepower against Ukrainian energy targets, trying to shut down the Ukrainian electricity grid. So Putin has also played a card. That is, he has demonstrated he can continue to reach into Ukraine. Each of those, I think, sets the conditions for for President Trump to be more likely to be successful in getting to something that looks and feels like a ceasefire for the people of Ukraine.
SPEAKER 06 :
You mentioned what the president's done in Venezuela. And when you look at all of these global conflicts and in situations, and it just seems very Reagan-esque in the way that President Trump has gone into these conflicts without putting boots on the ground, without getting us into foreign entanglements, but showcasing America's strength once again. Something that I feel like, especially for the last four years, was a big void in the world. When you look at the way that President Trump is able to put America first in many of these places that have taken advantage of the United States soft border situation. or soft power around the world. I just want to get your take on that. It's Reagan-esque in one way, but it's obviously President Trump's own style and that bold fearlessness of going forward and putting America first in this world. I just want to get your take on that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you nailed it. It is a very President Trump model to use the tools that are most important to America. I think I would add to your collection, I would add his use of economic power, sanctions, tariffs, trade deals, all of those things are demonstrations of the enormous power of the American economy. And he has used those to put America first and put us in a better position, not only in the economic world, but in the security world as well. That will be part of the conversation today. I am confident as well. The Russian economy depends on its capacity to move goods around the world, to sell things to people. It sells oil and natural gas mostly. And I'm confident there will not only be a discussion about military things, Tomahawk missiles, American intelligence being shared, all of those things, but also the economic both risk to Vladimir Putin and to his economy and the economic opportunities if Putin plays his cards correctly for their country to rejoin the global economic architecture.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mr. Secretary, thank you so much for joining us today with your expertise. This is always important times to have a voice like yours that has been there, has been in the room for these types of situations, but also being able to break down how this all plays together and how the United States can move forward as the leaders of the free world. Thank you again for joining us today. And folks, we're going to get back to that topic that we started off with, the interview with FBI Director Kash Patel talking with John Solomon about what's coming what's going forward and I'm going to take your phone calls I'm going to start in the next segment we only got about a minute and a half in this one so Michelle and Julie hang on the line I'll get you in the next segment but if you want to join Call 1-800-684-3110. Let's talk about this. What do you think about what the FBI director said? Do you think that this is the beginning of a reshaping and reforming and bringing our justice system back to its former glory, bringing it back to what the Constitution has laid out, getting rid of the deep state actors, getting rid of the corruption? Or are you jaded by how many times we've called for accountability and we've not gotten the accountability that really sets the system right? Give me a call. 1-800-684-3110. I want to talk about it. But remember, this is a fight the ACLJ has been engaged in for a long time. We know it can feel disheartening sometimes, but that is why we are here and we continue to fight. We file FOIA requests. We file lawsuits. We push back where we see corruption. whether it be at the federal level, within agencies, and we work with the administration and the government where we can, or whether it be at state levels, local levels, we're fighting for our clients and we're fighting for the constitutional freedoms that make this country great. Because if you don't fight for them, they will slip away. So join us today and donate at ACLJ.org to keep us in the fight. Make your voice heard by supporting us at ACLJ.org. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back. This is our second half hour of Seculo. I'm Will Haines. And we're talking about this interview that Kash Patel did with John Solomon yesterday, where John Solomon asked, beyond those who are already charged, do you think you've seen other crimes that might eventually get referred to justice, meaning the Justice Department? And he said, yes, we're looking at so many different leads on criminal activity by those who are in positions of power. And they're not going to stop until every single one of those is fully exposed. And then he goes on to talking about that. Everyone's like, what have you done? It's been seven months. And he says they spent 20 years building this diseased temple of corruption. It takes a little bit of time to defeat it and beat it down. I'm not asking you to trust me. I'm asking you to look at the work the men and women of the FBI have done so far in these seven, eight months. And imagine what, what we're going to do come year end. Let's go to the phones now. Michelle in Washington state watching on YouTube. You're on Sekulow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you for taking my call. Well, I am thrilled to see after being a supporter since the nineties to see people being taken to account constitutionally and the work that cash Patel is doing. And my question today is I'm curious, when I saw Tulsi Gabbard deny access to 37 people in the Intel, she stated in her, uh, her, her report that it was a violation because of violation of their oath. And that 14th amendment section three was created. And I've been reading these ratification debates where Jefferson and Madison literally debating with, um, people like, um, I want to say his name starts with an H, um, Anyway, they outlined and specified the meaning of every single line and article of not just the Constitution but the Bill of Rights. And they stated in there that the character of man was not enough, that their oath had to mean something. And when you challenge somebody on their oath, you're not taking their life or their liberty or their property. They're being banished from office because they violated the Constitution. I have 12 petitions ready to go. and trying to educate the public that if they sign these petitions, as we did with the Tories Act, asking the king to enforce his own laws, and said he came back with more laws, taxes, and soldiers in our homes... and thus the revolution began, they took that example and made sure we didn't have to do a bloody revolution again. And when I see Gavin and Ferguson writing these laws that violate their own state constitution, the AB-495, I'm sure you know about that, taking children out of the school, and it's just violating so much. My curiosity is that the referral for these petitions on the U.S. Constitution violations would go to the DOJ. And I would like to hear, because that's the movement here in Washington State.
SPEAKER 06 :
Michelle, when you start to look at it too, if you were to go through every member of Congress that may have voted outside the interest of their oath of office, I don't know that we'd have anyone left in this country to be in office at this point. And that is the sad reality of what we've seen take place in D.C. over the last decades, is that the way that... the interests of special interest and of the party leadership have gotten in the way of real leadership and you've seen this bipartisan division i mean you can even look at that within this government shutdown right now the entire democrat caucus in both the house and in the senate are are derelict in their duty they have decided that They want to hold the government hostage and the members of the military and members of the government that won't be receiving paychecks because of their political agenda. I mean, that doesn't sound like they're beholden to their oath of office. It sounds like they're beholden to their political agenda. So, I mean, that's a whole different show. That's a whole different can of worms that we could open and rabbit trail we could go down. But at the end of the day, I think that is part of what you're seeing within the government now. What you're seeing from Kash Patel, from many of those that are once again looking at at where we go from here is getting people back to the basics, getting people back to the constitution. And we'll be right back with more and Rick Grinnell on Sekulow. Welcome back to Seculo. I'm Will Haynes. I'm joined right now by Rick Grinnell. And Rick, I have something I need you to clear up for me because I read all the mainstream media, New York Times, Washington Post, even the LA Times, just so I can find out what's going on in your beautiful home state. And I've just been told for so long that that the Kennedy Center now is just this center for right-wing propaganda and everything that you've done there, Rick. And I believe it until I see things like, I mean, you hosted a News Nation Chris Cuomo town hall and people like Ro Khanna and John Fetterman are featured there. How did that one slip through your right-wing propaganda grip, Rick?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, it's such a great question. Look, the reality is that the Kennedy Center is open to everyone. Everyone. We have not canceled a single show. We want everyone to be welcomed at the Kennedy Center. We're open to everything as long as the programming can pay its own bills. It's a space that is open and welcome to everyone. What we've tried to implement is just We can't have programming that loses money and expects the American people just to pay for it. And so when News Nation came and said, we've got this big program, we want to talk about the issues, we're going to have Democrats, Republicans coming together, I immediately said, we want to move mountains to make sure that this happens. I love the idea. They were incredible to work with, and I hope they'll come back.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and once again, I saw the imagery from it, saw the clips from it, and saw it was a full house, and it was a very diverse panel of views there. And once again... A lot of Democrats. Exactly. Probably not a lot of Democrats. The ones that were there, probably not the biggest fan of Rick Grinnell, but yet they were there and able to express their views.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, look, we really welcomed them. We made sure that they felt welcomed. You know, we don't want a place where when J.D. Vance walks into a theater, he's booed. This is unacceptable in the arts. You know, we're all there to be entertained. We're all there to use the space. And we've got to get back to the point where you can think differently, vote differently, but still be kind and, you know, welcoming. And so we're really proud of where the Kennedy Center has been placed. in america having the premier arts institution welcome every single person and host things like news nation we're also hosting the fifa world cup draw in february we've got the honors coming up which i will tell you will the the ticket demand for the honors this year hosted by cbs at the kennedy center is enormous We've never seen anything like it. And we're just going to have a packed crowd of people who are really excited to be there. And CBS is our partner. We're very excited about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Rick, I do want to shift topics a little bit here because right now the president is on the phone with Vladimir Putin. This is ahead of a meeting tomorrow with Zelensky of Ukraine where it's reported there will even be discussions about Tomahawk missiles going to Ukraine. And when you see the momentum that the president has making that deal, getting to that phase one, getting those hostages released, in that Gaza deal. I mean, everyone that is a detractor of the president said when that deal came out, there is no way they will even get Hamas to agree in principle to this, much less even get to phase one. Yet we've seen what everyone said was impossible, get to that phase one and continue on. And we see the pressure the president now has as he continues to say to Hamas, you must disarm, we must rebuild this place. Now, in that context, the president is having a phone call with the president of Russia and has a meeting with the president of Ukraine tomorrow. What are your take on this and what do you think could come out of this, especially with the wind at the back of the president right now off the heels of what is, quite frankly, miraculous that has taken place in the Middle East?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, look, I think what's really historic about the signing of these deals in the Middle East, the Israelis and the Arabs, is not only that they signed, but that they enthusiastically signed. I never imagined that we could get both sides so excited about peace, but they are. And I think President Trump is frustrated with Vladimir Putin and keeps trying to come up with creative ways. Certainly talking to him is important, unlike Joe Biden, who didn't talk to Putin and thought it was helpful to not talk to him. President Trump is talking to Putin, sharing with him directly what his expectations are, telling him that we've got to find solutions, creatively coming up with ideas, And I think that's exactly what the president's supposed to do. I'm so glad that he's there as someone who is focused on this. Frustrated, certainly, but very focused. And if there's anyone that can do it, it's going to be President Trump. He's already proven to find solutions for retractable problems in Africa and the Balkans, really all over the world. And now he's focused on Russia, Ukraine. And I hope... that Vladimir Putin understands that peace is more important than anything else.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and we saw reports from some of the hostages that when they were released, that they said that Hamas was hoping for a Harris presidency, that they didn't want a Trump presidency because, well, for obvious reasons at this point, because of the strength versus the attempt at soft power that the Biden administration, the continuation that we would have seen there. Do you feel like maybe some of these world leaders almost assumed that maybe because of the people that were in place that may carry over the career government officials or military officials that there would be this continuation of almost the Biden doctrine of soft power and hands-offness and that they almost didn't take it, they took it for granted that when President Trump got into office for the second term that would continue instead of seeing the strength that he's pushing?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, there's no questions that our enemies and others want to be in negotiations with a weak America. They would like it for America to literally just say things like, don't. Right. And not really follow up, not really use all of the tools of the U.S. government. You know, the United States has a lot of tools it can use in a peaceful way, not just in a military way, but there's tariffs. Um, there's, uh, you know, isolation, there's sanctions, there's a whole bunch that can be done and, and president Trump is really good at using the tools, the peaceful tools to bring about change. Um, again, I know he's frustrated with Putin and, uh, is focused on this issue. We do need a breakthrough. And I hope that they're finding it as we speak. But I do feel incredibly safe knowing that President Trump is focused on it because he wakes up every day thinking about peace, not about war.
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Rick, thank you so much for joining us today. And thank you for that insight into the Kennedy Center and setting the record straight. You know what's going on there as opposed to what I've been reading in my daily newspaper reads that that you get on to me for reading. But we'll talk to you again soon. And thank you so much for joining us also on that important topic with the president's phone call with the leader of Russia. Folks, when we get back from the break, we're going to take your phone calls. Call me at 1-800-684-3110. I have a couple lines open. If you want to talk about Russia, you can. If you want to talk about what we're seeing out of the FBI director, we'll get back to that as well. 1-800-684-3110. But remember, all of this, this broadcast, these incredible guests that we have, the insight from Rick Grinnell and from Mike Pompeo is all because of you. We're not an ad supported show. We are on terrestrial radio networks. We're on Sirius XM. We're on Salem News Channel. We're on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook. We're on X. Wherever we can put this show, we will do it because we believe in getting this message out to you, the expertise that comes from the ACLJ and the fight that the ACLJ puts forward for the American people. We want that as many places as possible. And we're not ad supported. We're not beholden to the organizations that sell ads and say, you can't talk about this because it might anger. one of the advertisers, we are supported by you. And we do that so we can say the truth, so we can talk about the truth, so we can analyze this with the expertise that the ACLJ has and not fear the retribution of advertisers. That's why we're here. But we can't do it without you. So go to ACLJ.org today. Support the ACLJ to support this broadcast in all the places we put it. to support the legal fights. We have a lot of that coming up. We can tell you about in the next few days. I always say that when school is back in session, it's constitutional violation season. And we're seeing a lot of that. Whether it be supporting a teacher that was told to shut down free speech discussion in their classroom as a part of the Constitution Day. discussion, or whether it be a teacher that was told she can't pray anywhere that a student can see her. We are fighting those fights. Go to aclj.org to support this work, or if you need help, aclj.org slash help, and an attorney will be in touch with you. Welcome back to Sekulow. I'm Will Haynes. And in this final segment of the broadcast today, we'll be taking your phone calls. You still have some time to get on the air. Go to 1-800-684-3110 if you want to talk with me about any of the topics we discussed today. But I'm going to go right to a phone call. We're going to go to Julie from Oregon, who's been on hold for quite a while, listening on the radio. Julie, you're on Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi, well, thank you for taking my call. Um, I wanted to give a shout out to Michelle who is in the state right above me, Washington state. I'm calling from Oregon. Um, at the top of the hour, your question was, do we feel encouraged? Do we feel jaded by what's going on? Um, the interview with cash Patel, um, because of people like Michelle, people like Rick Grinnell, um, all of us, I'm, I'm super encouraged and even excited about what's going on. the exposure that's happening, the accountability that's happening. The interview with Jack Smith, he's not fooling anyone. Your word, hilarity, is right. When he talks about folks retiring because Trump is a terrible authoritarian, throwing out the rules, etc. No. Talk about the temple of diseased corruption. I'm trying to talk these words. I love that because My thought is right along with that is the mainstream media is the disease temple of corruption or the house right next door to it. Because for us not to be able to correctly be aware, and you should listen to the things you're reading well. I would take his advice too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I mean, somebody's got to read it so we can talk about it and point it out so that we can call them out for what they're reporting. But, Julie, also, I want to follow up on that because I want to play again for everyone exactly what John Solomon asked and what Kash Patel responded with. Thank you so much for calling. I am very encouraged by your words as well. But let's go ahead and play that again for people if you're just joining or missed it so you can get some context of what Julie was talking about.
SPEAKER 07 :
bite one those who are um already charged do you think you've seen other crimes that might eventually get referred to justice yes we are looking at so many different leads on criminal activity by those who are in positions of power and we're not going to stop until every single one of those is fully exposed the documents are provided either to congress or the courts of law and make every referral we can in the department of justice these indictments that you've seen and the ones that you're going to see coming up here in this near future are just the beginning but i have to remind the audience one thing everybody's like it's seven months what have you guys been doing well they spent 20 years building this disease temple of corruption it takes a little bit of time to to defeat it and beat it down i'm not asking you to trust me i'm asking you to look at the work the men and women of the fbi have done so far in these seven eight months and just imagine what we're going to do come the year end
SPEAKER 06 :
And when you think about those words that he's saying as well, when he says, you know, we're not going to stop until every single one of those is fully exposed. And you talk about that the indictments you've seen and the ones that you're going to see coming up here in the near future are just the beginning. The media wants it to be like this is a retribution campaign by President Trump against people that went after him. And I think those may be the easy ones to see because one, James Comey lied before Congress and perpetrated this entire hoax on the country with Russiagate. But then you also look at Letitia James going after that, the entire issue, the civil fraud suit that she brought in New York and then Well, they just looked at her mortgage documents as well and found out that there was allegedly some mortgage fraud there. And John Bolton, someone that was very critical, especially with the classified documents issue. Once again, a lot of times these people that start pointing the finger are doing the very same thing themselves. But I think if I read into what Cash Patel is saying here, The media narrative of this is retribution for people that were against President Trump is not what they're doing. Not that we believe that was the case anyways, but that it does go much deeper because this 20 years they've spent building the diseased temple of corruption, that is well before President Trump was even in the political sphere. And so the corruption and the targeting of Americans and the weakening of our justice system, if it goes much deeper, Julie referenced the call screener that she saw a clip where he said, it will shock you what I've learned. I think that is where it's headed. I think the writing of the wrongs of the past 20 years that he's talking about goes much deeper than a Trump presidency and Russia collusion hoax. So I think that's what we should be looking out for and not listening to the media saying that this is just some campaign by the president to go after his political enemies. Let's go ahead and go to Cambria calling from Utah online for Cambria. You're on Sekulow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. I just want to say that I'm excited as well about what cash Patel and Penn Bondi are accomplishing. And I do pray that they can get majority of it at least cleaned out before, um, the president Trump's term is ended. Um, I had a question pop up into my head. Um, while I was waiting and I'm just curious to know, um, if Adam shift, if they've anywhere near indicting him, but to remove him from the Senate. I'm just curious why they haven't proceeded that way since he's such a liar and a negative force.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, he was elected by the people of California. There are things that you can be removed from office for. But I think, once again, we know that there was at least some investigation or looking into some of the issues behind Adam Schiff. We haven't heard anything in weeks about that. But you've also seen senators, Democrat senators recently, like Bob Menendez, that was indicted and ended up stepping down from the Senate because of corruption charges that were brought against him and his wife. So I think it'd be a little bit too early for Adam Schiff to even think about I'm needing to step down because we haven't seen any sort of charge or anything like that. But I agree with you. I mean, sometimes in an American system, people you don't like that are corrupt do get elected. People that lie on TV and that push hoaxes on the American people do get elected. But it is important that you use your voice. You use broadcasts like this to point out when they're not telling the truth and when they're trying to pull one over on the American people, as Adam Schiff has done so many times in the past. Let's try to get one more phone call in today. Bobby calling from New York. You're on line one. You got about 30 seconds here, Bobby.
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You're a good man. Great to talk to the big shot producer. I just feel so blessed that we've got Cash Patel because I was very concerned that his nomination was going to fail. And that's all I have to say today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you, Bobby. And yes, I mean, once again, when you saw how aggressive everyone came out against these picks of President Trump, he had a lot easier time in his first term because there was a lot of people that were kind of more establishment picks. I mean, you think back to his first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, and things of that nature that were more consensus picks with the establishment. And I think one of the blessings that we're seeing in the second Trump term is that he has experience now as president and not just as the businessman that knew what he wanted to get done. He just put people in placeholders. He now understands how the government works and how he has to have the right people in those positions to get these things done. So even that gap, the doldrums of the Biden years, I think has brought about a much more effective response way to govern the country under this type of leadership from President Trump. And that is why they oppose these nominees so desperately. They didn't want them in there because they knew that they would get to work. They wouldn't just play by the bureaucratic deep state rules and be told what to do. They would actually be leaders. Thank you for joining me today on Seculo. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
