In this week's episode of the National Crawford Roundtable, our hosts dive deep into the historic Middle East peace agreement brokered by Donald Trump between Israel and Hamas. This monumental agreement marks the eighth successful negotiation of Trump's career, highlighting his ability to bring conflicting parties to the table. Join us as we explore the details of this agreement, its global implications, and the significant milestone of hostages being released. In addition, the episode examines the reaction from world leaders and the skepticism surrounding the effectiveness of such peace treaties.
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Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Hey, none of us get to talk about anybody behind their back. We're all here. So how are you doing, guys? That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's not going to be as much fun this week, for sure. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tell me about it. Well, you do what you got to do, I guess. We are talking this week, of course, about the Middle East peace deal and how huge this is. And, of course, this is, we got to remember, this is actually the 8th ceasefire slash peace agreement that Donald Trump has already successfully negotiated. But there's no doubt this is a huge one. After two years, more than two years now since October 7th and that massacre, we now have peace, at least right now, between Israel and Hamas. We have 20 living hostages that have been returned. And there's a lot of different aspects of this whole peace agreement thing to discuss. But I kind of want to go around the table and get you guys' general take, first of all, about just in an overall sense how significant this is because, first of all— I mean, a Middle East peace agreement, the idea that we actually have Israel and Hamas both signing an agreement together. Neil, I'll start with you. Think about just the imagery of this, that here's Donald Trump sitting at a big table with Hamas on one side, Israel on the other, and they're all signing together a peace agreement. And part of this peace agreement is Hamas agreeing to, in essence, lay down their arms, stop the fighting, to release the hostages, and to give up power. Now, will that stick? Will they actually do that? That's to be worked out. But at least, I mean, they signed their name, Neil, to a peace agreement. And right now, hostilities are not happening. The hostages are, in fact, released. To me, this is extremely historic.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it's incredibly historic. And honestly, the mere fact that the hostages have been released is cause for celebration, like period, end of sentence. Anything else that beyond that would be wonderful. I tend to be more skeptical when it comes to groups like Hamas, particularly because of their stated goals, but absolutely, totally historic. And you got to believe the entire world was watching. And I got to believe that some world leaders are scratching their heads saying, how does Donald Trump get in the middle of all this stuff? But anyway, it happened and it's historic and the world's going to talk about it for a really long time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. John, what's first your 35,000 foot view takeaway from this? What are some of the overall thoughts that you have just about this deal happening before we start peeling back?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I think it's, I mean, for those that say it's, you know, not a good deal and will Hamas abide by this and so on and so forth, you know, well, time will tell. And for all of those that for some odd reason, and maybe we should talk about this, that think that the Jews are the bad guys and Hamas is the good guys. Since the ceasefire has happened, the Jews in Israel aren't running around rounding up people and executing them out in front of others like Hamas has been doing ever since the peace deal has been initiated. Peace, basically, in other words, we won't go after Israel, but we're going to go after our own defectors. Those are defected inside of our own borders here. So those that think that Hamas is some peace-loving organization, Bob, yeah, far from it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, and think about the hostages, too, the 20 of them that were released. Those are the 20 that still survived. But you look at the ones that were killed. And I know there's talk right now about the slow release of the dead bodies. And why is that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Personally, John, and I don't want to get conspiratorial here, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Hamas doesn't realize there's some dead bodies we can't hand over because when they do an autopsy on them, they're going to see the level of torture that we did on them. Correct. And I don't – I think Hamas is trying to – I can't disagree with that. So that kind of to me is one of the reasons why they're probably holding back some of those bodies. But those were powerful images though, John, weren't they? I mean the hugging and the reunion and stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. And again, for those that – I don't want to get off track here, Bob, at all, but it just drives me nuts, these people that think for some odd reason Israel's the bad guy here and Hamas was the good guy. People on our side of the aisle that think that, I just don't understand that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't wrap my brain around that either. And actually, Neil, there are a lot of people in America, I hate to say it, it's not just the anti-Semites in the college campuses, but there are some groups, even in some conservative and libertarian circles, their default reaction is to see Israel as the bad guy. And look, Israel's a secular nation. I don't agree with everything that they do. Of course, it's not like Benjamin Netanyahu's perfect.
SPEAKER 02 :
Don't agree with everything we do, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. But my goodness, when you look at the two, how anybody can have their default sympathies fall to Hamas really is beyond me.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know it sounds like over the top, but I just believe it's demonic deception we're talking about. Demonic level deception. It's not over the top at all. I mean, you look at the two. Countries in question here, the two places in question, you got Israel and Gaza is nothing but a pile of rubble. I mean, people living in those kind of conditions on a continued basis and thinking that Hamas ultimately is good in some way for the Palestinian people. I don't realize, by the way, that there are Christians in Gaza. Uh, there are Palestinian Christians all over the world, but largely, uh, a Muslim group of people, but you know, it's the Hamas factor that you really have to look at here. And somebody saying that they're sympathetic to that kind of way of life in Gaza. When you flip the script and look at Israel, a peaceful nation where people can go and vacation and it's economically prosperous and people aren't killing each other in the streets, suicide bombing is a rarity, but if it happens, it's somebody from, uh, so-called Palestine that got into Israel that carries this out. And I don't know how any thinking person could look at that and think, well, this is right and that's wrong when you compare the two side by side, which is why I call it demonic deception. I don't know what else to refer to it as.
SPEAKER 04 :
It really is. Anybody who can look at them side by side and say, oh, my sympathies lie with Hamas more and not Israel just blows my mind. And we've got to say too, look, I feel bad for Palestinian families that are going back into Gaza now and they're seeing that their homes are rubble. Of course, we feel bad for them, certainly. And we got to remember, there are tons and tons and tons of humanitarian aid that's flowing into Gaza right now. But that's a sad thing. But we also got to remember, for all the people on the left that are arguing Well, you know, you got to separate Hamas from the Palestinian people, okay, because they're not the same thing. I understand that Hamas are a bunch of terrorists, but you know what? Hamas got power in 2007, and it's not because they took power in a coup. They were elected into office by the Palestinian people in Gaza. So the Palestinian people elected them. And after the October 7th massacre, polls were taken not just from Israel, but taken from Palestinians in Gaza asking, do you support the attack from Hamas on Israel, October 7th? And you had on average between 70 to 80 percent of the Palestinian people, the civilians themselves, that said, yeah, we support this. So, you know, I feel bad their homes were reduced to rubble, but in all fairness, they were supporting Hamas while Hamas was using them as human shields. So if anybody's the bad guy here for the rubble, it's Hamas. But there's a lot more to talk about this. But before that, we get to more of this. I want to remind you folks, of course, that this podcast is sponsored. We appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors like Preborn and like SunPower LED, which, Neil, SunPower LED is really amazing technology in the way that they help people naturally with light.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And I've had people, you know, you know, again, those that are the Jew haters out there compare what you're talking about to. Well, you know, does that mean that because, you know, Biden was elected that everybody that went along, I mean, they're trying to use comparisons as to, you know, the United States and reality is not even close to being, you know, one in the same. And even though every single person there maybe didn't vote for Hamas at the end of the day, Bob, to your point, They were duly elected. They stayed in power for a long time, as you said. You know, it's been almost an entire, what, two decades? Pretty close to it? Not quite. Just a little shy of two decades.
SPEAKER 1 :
2007.
SPEAKER 02 :
So we're 18 years in. 18 years in. Exactly. So almost two decades. So the reality is, you know... How would those people have fought Hamas once they actually elected them? Again, guys, I don't have the answers to that. All I know is this. While you say, Bob, and I agree with you that I feel sorry for those that maybe weren't on their side fully, that ended up finding themselves trapped for some odd reason, couldn't leave, couldn't get out, whatever the situation is, you feel sorry for them, yes. Although, this is sort of like the abortion argument, Bob, of, rape and incest. This is a small percentage of those that are actually there, that are actually in that camp. The majority are the individuals you're talking about that supported everything Hamas has done.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
And we can't forget that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You think this thing's going to stick, John? Well, I think it will.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think the only way they can start rebuilding the country in any way, shape, or form is to get the fighting with Israel over. And the reality is, and again, as I remind everybody coming into the podcast today, Hamas wants to stay in power. They want to keep rolling along. They're going to keep doing that. That's why they're executing some that were against them, by the way, throughout this last couple of years. I mean, the reality is they're doing that openly right now. They're rounding up people as we speak, executing individuals that came out against them. And so I think what they did is they basically turned their forces from Israel to now internally so they can, quote unquote, clean up those that were against them internally and And, yeah, they're going to plan on rebuilding. I mean, is it going to stick? Yeah, I think it will as far as that goes because what other option do they have? If they don't get out of this deal, there's nothing left to rebuild. I mean, as it is, there is a lot of rebuilding that they've got to do at this point because, as Neil said, it's a pile of rubble.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which, by the way, Neil, talking about the pile of rubble, think like a businessman for a second. I know John certainly can, as our resident businessman, can relate to this. But Donald Trump's vision for what Gaza could be, like a tourist attraction, Dubai kind of place, if you think about it, this really is prime real estate. They're on the banks of the Mediterranean Sea. So this could really be built into something very good and make a lot of money and certainly be safer for the region and the whole bit. So I don't know if that's going to happen, but I've got to imagine that Trump is going to be doing everything he can working with these other Middle Eastern nations to say, let's just not rebuild it by putting up the same brick stuff. Let's actually get some real estate developers in there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's interesting. I read an article in the Wall Street Journal the other day, and I think it was written by Peggy Noonan. Don't quote me on that, but I believe it was. And she's no fan generally of Donald Trump. But she was making the case that Donald Trump has a rare ability to sort of change the narrative and all of a sudden introduce a new idea, almost like, hey, look, a shiny object in the room, and gave him credit for changing the mindset of what was going on. Everything was focused on Gaza and people starving to death and Hamas and the hostages and everything was gloom and doom for two years. And, you know, several months ago, he introduces this idea of turning it into like the Riviera of the Middle East. Right. And and if even if even for a moment it caused people to stop and go, you know, why are they destroying this land and why aren't they using it for some prosperous reason or to the benefit of their own people, et cetera? And It caused people to pause for a minute, which everyone needed. Everybody needed to take a breather for a minute and maybe just dream a little bit. But it's really not a cockamamie idea. I mean, the bottom line is they have a very lucrative piece of property there that they could really do something with. And I think America and Israel in some fashion would help support that concept so that we don't have to have this kind of situation going on indefinitely. Like, where's the end of this whole thing? It just till there's utter destruction. And I don't think anyone wants that long term.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, as a businessman, think about the vision that Trump has here. I don't know if it would end up becoming a new Riviera, but I'll tell you what, if this is a thing where 20, 25 years from now, Gaza is basically like a tourist hub attraction, and you've got Middle East cruises stopping off to Gaza, and it looks like Dubai, and here's the big wave machine pools that people are playing in, and the I mean, if anybody can have a vision for a strip of land, as far as developing goes, it's Donald Trump. But, you know, John, if that's what Gaza is 25 years from now, then I don't know how Donald Trump does not seriously have an entire chapter in the history books as far as the Middle East goes.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree. And to your point, yes, everything that I think he envisions could easily happen, the thing you're going to be up against. And this is where, you know, maybe I sound maybe, you know, too negative, but at the end of the day, when you got a bunch of knucklehead terrorists running things, Bob, good luck with that. I mean, at the end of the day, these guys don't have the same vision business wise that even the rest of the Middle East has. And this is where, you know, those that say, well, they're all in they're all in the same camp. Not really. I mean, there is a huge separation between, you know, even the guys that, you know, again, do I agree with everything that, you know, Dubai does? Do I agree with everything that the UAE does? Do I agree with everything that Saudi Arabia does? Of course not. Do I feel like those guys are in our camp and are as kind-hearted and have the same concern for the world that the three of us do? Absolutely not. But do they think like those guys do in Hamas? No, they do not. There's a vast chasm between those two individuals. And frankly, by the way, going back to will this stick? Yeah, because I think those other countries that I just mentioned are going to make sure that it sticks, because if there's anybody that has vision to do what you're talking about, Bob, it's those guys I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And can I jump in for I just got to jump in for one second to further what you're saying, John? Yes. You know, all of this, you know, reconstruction thing, turn it into like the new Dubai. That's a great idea. And it would cause people to really be able to consider something different for this part of the world. But you've got to root out And this is a spiritual thing. You can't root it out politically or economically or any other way. The demonic hatred of Israel. Why? Because the Redeemer, Jesus, came from Israel and God's redemption plan includes Israel in that sense. And Satan doesn't want that. He doesn't want it. And he wants to destroy Israel, wipe it off the face of the earth. And so until that seed is removed, it's not going to happen. And I don't ultimately see any of this come into fruition where there's wave pools and hotels and everything for the simple reason that it would be destroyed again and again and again by people that hate Israel and hate peace and prosperity. They hate anything that has to do with God and His blessings.
SPEAKER 02 :
The only way that would come to fruition is, like I said a moment ago, Neil, would be as if the powers that be in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, places like that, say, listen, guys, we're going to come in there, we're going to pump a bunch of money, and we're going to get things all done and dialed in. And by the way... You guys are, you know, you're never to be heard or seen again. We're going to change things up and do things completely different. And, you know, let's figure out how this is going to work. Because to your point, Neil, if they run around acting like they are right now, that thing will never, it'll be a pile of rubble forever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, Neil, I'm kind of curious to get your take also on how this may play into end times, not getting into too much of the eschatological weeds. But, you know, when I was talking about this on my show this week, and I had a couple of listeners saying, Bob, do you think this is maybe a little bit of heading toward the Antichrist, not that Trump would be the Antichrist?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, no, no, really quick, Bob. A false sense of peace in the Middle East. The conspiracy is that Jared Kushner is the Antichrist. Yeah, right. But true.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've seen it. His dad's the ambassador of France, so I don't know what that means. But no, but there is a certain sense of, okay, well, is there going to be a false sense of peace in the Middle East, which many interpret revelation to kind of setting the stage for the Antichrist coming is a false sense of peace, especially in the Could this be that unfolding? We know things are going to get worse before Jesus returns, but there could be some temporary reversals in the downward decline. And to me, I see this as one of the temporary reversals and not necessarily to the false peace that's setting up Armageddon. I don't know. What's your take on it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there's a lot of different views, obviously, about eschatology in the end times and very divergent views. So let's just say that right out of the box. But, you know, does the scripture talk about a false peace during the 70th week of Daniel really kicking off the 70th week of Daniel? Yes. Meaning the seven year tribulation period, whatever. So to your point, somebody might be saying, well, OK, peace, Middle East, Donald Trump, you know, getting a lot of accolades for this. Didn't get the Nobel Prize. Maybe we'll talk about that later. But either way, you know, like, could this be it? And I think no, but I think it's close. I mean, I honestly believe that, you know, Bible prophecy will be fulfilled. God makes good on his promises. And one way or another, there's going to be somebody rise to power named Antichrist, and he's going to do everything he can to deceive. God's people and anyone who might be drawn to Jesus. So, yeah, what we're seeing unfolding, it all has to do with moving towards the end times. Life here in the United States involves moving towards the end times. But is this it yet? I don't think so.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, we got a lot more to talk about in the second half, of course, regarding this, including, you know, who gets the credit? How much credit does Trump get? What about the Nobel Peace Prize? And did Joe Biden really set the stage for this? And so we got a lot more to talk about. But Neil, first, we do want people to support our sponsors and one of them, of course, SunPowerLED.
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We'll continue in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York, John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado, talking about, of course, the big news, the Middle East peace deal between Israel and Hamas in Gaza. And we've talked about many aspects of this already, the release of the hostages, where those peace agreements stick, the historic nature of this. Let's start talking about credit, if we will. First of all, John, I got to get your take on this. Joe Biden and Antony Blinken actually claiming that they are the ones who really set the foundation for this peace agreement. All Donald Trump did was, as Biden said, take it over the finish line. And as Antony Blinken, who was Biden's secretary of state, as he said that it's a good thing that the Trump administration adopted our plan. It's like, you've got to be kidding me. There was no 20-point plan put together by the Biden administration. This is absurd. Donald Trump made happen what nobody else was able to make happen. And I just, I got to tell you, John, I find this laughable that Joe Biden and Antony Blinken can try to claim what... We're the ones who did this. He just took it over the finish line.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, these guys weren't even close to the finish line. They just had a safety, by the way. So they weren't even close to being in the game, as you know, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're right, it's a safety. They were 100 yards away.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly, exactly. I mean, at the end of the day, yeah, I mean, it's – it's laughable and i think it's probably why you haven't even heard you know trump even come back and say much about that because at the end of the day i mean anybody believing that i mean granted there's a lot of hardcore lefties out there they're gonna believe anything these guys say but at the end of the because trump can do no right we'll talk about that i'm sure bob in the media how no matter what do you mean as you've said before the guy could cure cancer and there'd be some some problem with that in the media so at the end of the day they're not going to give him credit for anything but yeah To think for a second that these other knuckleheads had anything to do with what went on this past week or so, yeah, no, they didn't have anything to do with this at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know, Neil. What do you think? I mean, hey, you know, Joe Biden, he was he was I can totally picture Joe Biden working behind the scenes with Qatar and Egypt and a bunch of these other nations and convincing these Muslim leaders to join in on his 20 point plan. And I'm just glad that, you know, he had the baton and was willing to hand it to Donald Trump right before the finish line.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken are both lying. Neither one had anything to do with this. This was Jill Biden, actually. Jill did this and was able to help create this. I'm kidding. Come on. The Biden administration. Really? gotten nowhere on the whole Gaza situation. And they had no influence whatsoever on Muslim nations or on Hamas. And there was no threat seen, you know, to the future of all that was going on. So no, it didn't happen. And I give them credit for trying to take you know, credit for it, for trying to say it was them. Hey, good for you. Maybe you can score a couple of brownie points from the people that aren't really paying attention. But I think by and large, everybody knows, including liberals and progressives who actually hate the idea that Donald Trump is making progress on these kinds of things. They just, they detest it. They can't believe it. How in the world does this guy pull it off? But Donald Trump was very effective in helping to bring this about. This had nothing to do with the Biden administration.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, let's – John, let's talk about the – look, you guys know, for the most part, I'm a pretty staunch Trump defender. It doesn't mean I agree with everything he does, of course. But you talk about something that's very much in his wheelhouse. Trump has proven himself the true master of the art of the deal. I mean, because we've got to remember, this guy – You hear terms like 5-D chess or whatever, but this really is how Trump operates. He started at the United Nations General Assembly. What we now know is that he was backstage meeting with all of these Muslim Arab leaders and getting them on board first. And so now you have a situation where he puts together a plan that he had several Arab Muslim nations that were supporting this and backing this. You've got the prime minister of Pakistan, which is a nuclear Muslim nation, Islamic nation, and you now have them praising Donald Trump. The man stood there and saluted Donald Trump and said, I salute you and nominating you for the Nobel Peace Prize. When you have Muslim leaders, and we were told, You recall that Donald Trump was such an Islamophobe and he wanted a Muslim ban in this country. Well, guess what? The Muslim leaders throughout the Middle East have exposed our dishonest media is corrupt in this area because they're like, no, he's not. We're working with him against Hamas. But for Trump to get not just Israel, but Israel. world leaders, including a bunch of Arab Muslim nations and the European Union nations and Canada and Mexico and everybody else to basically join him, stand up on stage with him and say, yep, we're with you as he's the leader of the free world. And he got all those chess pieces in line like that. That is some master negotiating. I mean, the art of the deal is not just some empty kind of stuff. This guy actually genuinely is a master dealmaker.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. Yeah. And you're right, Bob, this is right in his wheelhouse. These are the things that that, frankly, as I said earlier, media in the left will never give him credit for. And the other thing, too, not that we need to go down this path today, but, you know, the economic crisis. end of things as well, which, by the way, Bob, this and Neil both, this does play into that as well. I've said this before. President Trump knows the best way to have a good, strong, vibrant economy here and, believe it or not, around the world is to get rid of all of these wars and all the other nonsense that's going on. And it's it's probably the opposite of what a lot of other folks out there would think. And what I mean by that is, you know, there's still those, you know, quote unquote warmongers running around, Bob, that will tell you that, oh, no, war is good for the economy. You know what? Those were the old days. It's not any longer. The reality is because of consumer confidence and all sorts of other things that play into it more so now than probably ever. Reality, Bob, is, you know, war is not good for the economy. And Donald Trump knows that. And to your point, he knows how to get these things done at the end of the day. He really does.
SPEAKER 04 :
And Neil, even some in the... In the media, although they're reluctant to give Trump credit for anything, even some in the media have been going, you know, it's like swallowing a horse pill for them. But, OK, you know, let's give him some credit here. But the fact is that this really is. If this were anybody with a name other than Trump, they'd be they'd be scoping out space for a fifth head on Mount Rushmore. If this were anybody else but Trump. So I really do think that this is remarkable to bring the world together in this way. And for him to pull this off, I don't know how anybody can be reluctant to acknowledge his skill and ability at negotiating and dealmaking.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Now, because there's always more to the story, let me just say I agree with you for the most part across the board. But let's remember that this is a 20 point peace plan and this thing could go south at any point. Some of these there's some real sticking points in there if you actually read. all 20 points. And we're dealing with Hamas largely. Where's Hamas going to fall on all of this? And would you trust your grandkids to be babysat by Hamas? Not me. No, thanks. I don't trust Hamas at all. And I don't think anybody else should, which is why it's good that there's this coalition group that's going to kind of oversee this. So hopefully it all works out. If it doesn't, then you know all of this is kind of premature so like i think most of the celebrating about donald trump's accomplishment should happen if this is still in place two years from now and they're building you know uh resort getaways in a dubai-like gaza you know where all of a sudden real progress is happening and peace is is continuing so i i think it has to play out a little bit i just think it's too early
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We continue to talk about the Middle East peace deal that Donald Trump managed to successfully get negotiated. And did he do it alone? No. But did he orchestrate it? Absolutely. Absolutely. And the fact that he got so many nations around the world, including Middle Eastern nations, to come together for this is really incredible. And it does bring me to the Nobel Peace Prize issue. And, John, I want to ask you about this. First, I want to give my take on this. The Nobel Prize Committee, we know they're a bunch of liberals anyway. I hate to say it, but the Nobel Peace Prize, it doesn't have the prestige that it possibly had at one time. This is nothing more than a bunch of liberals who are deciding who they want to give it to. I'm not saying that this Venezuelan peace activist who has spoken out against Maduro, I'm not saying she's not doing noble work down there, of course. But to give the Nobel Peace Prize to her instead of Donald Trump, when you look at what he's accomplished over the course of this year, eight, count them, eight peace deals and ceasefires between warring nations, including nations that have been at war with each other for decades, like Rwanda and Congo, Azerbaijan and Armenia. They've been at war for over 30 years, India and Pakistan, two Muslim nations, so eight Eight different peace agreements overall in just a few months' time. Any one of those on their own would get the Nobel Peace Prize for any other president. So this is a Nobel committee being the leftists that they are. And let me just say on a side note. This isn't something new for them. I'm just going to take a side note. Bear with me a moment here. But the Nobel Peace Prize for the MRI, the Nobel Peace Prize in medicine, do you know the inventor of the MRI is a man by the name of Dr. Raymond Damadian? Yeah. He invented the MRI. He has the patent for it. He had two assistants that helped him once he patented it and created it, helped him in developing some additional features of it. All right. Do you know the Nobel Prize Committee gave the Nobel Prize to the two assistants and not the inventor himself? And... Tell me if you think this is a coincidence. Raymond Damadian happens to be a born-again evangelical Christian who's a young earth creationist. Okay? There's your answer. This is nothing new for the Nobel Prize Committee. But I do want to make sure and say this, and then I'll throw it over to you, John. Okay? A lot of people are saying, well – The Nobel Committee didn't have a choice because the deadline for nominations was January 31st. And Donald Trump had just been sworn into office. He didn't make any of these peace deals yet. All right. I'll tell you why that's a bogus argument. Number one. You have previous nominations already. He had the Abraham Accords already. That right there is a justifiable reason to say, hey, they're still intact. Let's give it to him. Secondly, the Nobel Committee, they can gather together and say, you know what? Let's vote to go ahead and allow a late entry here because he's been flooded with Nobel Prize nominations around the world. It's not like it's international law. that you have to let the deadline be January 31st. So they could have easily made an exception in this case because it's such an exceptional year. And then finally, thirdly, you have a United States Congresswoman, December 11th of last year, who officially nominated Donald Trump. And she is an officially accepted nominator as well. So he actually was nominated before January 31st. So no, this is clearly a snub from the Nobel Prize Committee.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and to prove that, if the next deadline, which is coming up here pretty quickly, if he doesn't get it next year, Bob, that tells you everything you just said is true.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Believe it or not, I actually do tend to think that they probably will give it to him next year unless some kind of horribly disastrous thing happens that tarnishes his legacy in a bad way. But other than that, I've got to imagine that the backlash they're getting is like, okay, this is embarrassing.
SPEAKER 02 :
They'll clean it up next year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Which, by the way, Neil, the Venezuelan lady, the activist who who was given the Nobel Peace Prize, she even said, I dedicate this to Donald Trump. So I think the Nobel Prize committee themselves have some serious egg on their face.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don't think they care, though. And obviously two different things entirely. But for the same reason, Bruce Jenner was named Woman of the Year by what, Time magazine or whatever? Right. It's another one of those things. This is politics. This has nothing to do with what's right. It has to do with adhering to a narrative. And they found the next most qualified person in their mind on the planet and said, oops, there's our person. Now we don't have to pick Donald Trump. But I agree with John 100% that if he's not a recipient next year, that'll tell you everything you need to know. But however, like I said, there's 20 points to this peace plan. Even so, he's had a tremendous impact. No matter what happens in Gaza, I think he would be deserving anyway. So we'll see.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, I don't think really, John, that anybody is going to take the Nobel Peace Prize that seriously anymore. It's kind of like the Academy Awards.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're losing their fervor in this and what you're saying. You're exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
It takes the shine off of the gold of the prize. Academy Awards, they're not for whoever really was the best actor or what was really the best movie. They're for who they like the best and their insider people. Same thing with Time Magazine. Yeah, Time Magazine person of the year. That's a joke. Which, by the way, did you guys see the Time magazine cover, the photo that they used of Donald Trump? I don't know if you saw that or not. They put him on the cover to run cover for themselves going, see, we're covering his, we're even calling it his triumph. Okay. But of all the stock photos, you got millions and millions of stock photos that you can use of Donald Trump. They pick an unflattering image where the sun shining down on him and the shot is shooting up and it looks like he's bald. He looks like a bald guy with one strand of comb over hair just in the angle of the shot.
SPEAKER 02 :
I didn't see that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You got to look at it. I just looked it up. It's pathetic. It's unbelievable. Trump even posted on. He's like, really? You use a photograph of me. That's got to be the worst picture ever. That makes me look bald. They disappeared my hair. And it's... Very few people look flattering when you're taking a picture from chest level up at the head and you see his chin and, you know, his neck and everything else. And then he looks like, literally looks like he's bald.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep. I've seen it. Wow. Come on. No, I see it. Yeah. No, you're correct. Yeah. That's the only one they could pick. Doesn't even look like him.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, when I lived in D.C. for two years working for Focus on the Family and Family News and Focus, I would stand on the corner waiting for the bus to come to take me to the subway. And there'd be side-by-side Washington Post, Washington Times, newspapers. And there was always some congratulatory headline for anybody named Clinton. And if anyone else who was a solid Republican or conservative or George W. Bush or whoever – They absolutely had the same kind of thing, horrible pictures and horrible headlines, and they just literally lay it out like that. So I don't know. I wouldn't take it too seriously. This is what the media does, and people need to pay attention. They don't want to paint him in a flattering light. They want to do everything they can to discredit him.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that is absolutely true. By the way, John, what's your take on how some of the press and the leftists have handled this whole thing? You know, it's interesting, the Hollywood celebrities, they are silent.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I was going to say crickets. Haven't heard a word.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but hold on a second. I'm confused because these are the same Hollywood celebrities that spent the last two years shedding tears saying that we need a ceasefire, we need a ceasefire. When can we have a ceasefire? You got a ceasefire now. Yeah. And now you have humanitarian aid rolling into Gaza. So why aren't they celebrating? Why are they crickets?
SPEAKER 02 :
Because they're a bunch of hypocrites, Bob. You already know that answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. I thought I'd give you a softball anyway.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bunch of hypocrites.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, it really – I'll tell you what. I know this is cynical, but I'm just going to say it. I've said this many times. The liberal left in this country, their hatred for Donald Trump or for that matter anything conservative or Christian, but especially Donald Trump, their hatred for Donald Trump outweighs – The love that they have for the things that they claim they value. They claim they value diversity. They claim they value tolerance. They claim they value peace and such. No, they don't value these things. If they did, then they'd be celebrating peace in Gaza right now and humanitarian aid rolling in.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right. But they're not celebrating Europe.
SPEAKER 04 :
It means that they have to swallow the horse pill of giving credit to Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what's your take on that, Neil? Do you think just your observation of how the press, the Democrats, the news media, the gals on The View and the Hollywood celebrities are treating the Donald Trump factor now?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they're all eating crow right now and they're praying for the next news story to get off the subject so they can move on to something else because they have egg all over their face, like you said earlier. And there's no way around it. He's been instrumental in helping to bring about peace, at least to this degree. And we'll see where it leads long term. But this is not just Donald Trump saying, hey, there's going to be peace in the Middle East. There's a coalition. of nations that are saying, this is what we want, this is what we'll support, and we'll be a part of this process. So I think, by and large, he should be celebrated, and it's not going to happen from people that can't stand him in the first place. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. By the way, what does happen? Neil, what happens with the other terrorists? First of all, Hamas isn't going to go away completely, of course. Islamic jihadi terrorism isn't going to go away, so we know that. And Iran certainly would still want to try to use Hamas, but... What do you think happens to people like Hezbollah and Boko Haram and some of these other terrorist organizations? Do they end up dying on the vine and losing their support? Or do they just get a bigger piece of the pie if Hamas gets reduced? What do you think happens to terrorism in general?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know because I'm not an expert on terrorism. I think it would probably be the bigger piece of the pie kind of thing because terrorism isn't going to go away. It's part of the fabric of people that hate God's people. Bottom line is, and we talked about it earlier, It's demonically inspired. But, you know, by and large, I think it's going to continue to just find new ways to make it happen. You know, new sites to operate from new ways to carry out terrorist activity, maybe even change the name of the organization. Who knows? So that, you know, people can't track the activities. But the people that are consumed by hatred, the people that are demonically driven to, you know, to eliminate Israel are not going away. And they may go underground for a while. They may find some other place to do what they do. But we can expect to see more of it in the future, but hopefully not in Gaza.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
You bet. And we always do appreciate you folks listening to us. And by the way, of course, we record this on Wednesday mornings. And yesterday, the Presidential Medal of Freedom was given posthumously to Charlie Kirk, to his wife, Erica, from President Trump at the White House. You know, great ceremony. Yesterday was Charlie Kirk's birthday. And so obviously, we encourage everybody to continue to pray for the Kirk family and everyone that's been so affected by the devastating assassination. In the meantime, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush Region out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Guys, always great catching up with you. Thanks a lot. Have a great week. We'll see you all next week. You too. Thanks, Bob. All right. We bet. Take care.
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Discover the transformative power of faith and love in sustaining and restoring relationships. Angie and Jackie delve into the significance of mutual interests, appreciation, and unwavering commitment, emphasizing how these elements, combined with divine guidance, have empowered Jackie and her husband to build a new, harmonious life together. They also touch on practical marriage advice and the profound lessons Jackie shares with married couples.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin with the good news. The good news is Jackie Calloway is back and joining us. I went on vacation and I missed her for a couple of weeks. Did a little fall break with the kids. We've talked about her book, Suicide, Don't Do It, which was, wow, such a testimony when she was a teenager and she was pregnant and how she considered taking her life and the miracle that God performed in her life. And then also about her marriage, the divorce, and then getting back together with her husband, getting remarried and and Counseling Couples Together, and that book, Love That Would Not Let Me Go, Jackie Calloway. And then she's working on a new book, Till Death Do Us Part. Welcome back, Jackie.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you, Angie. Good to be back.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I love it that one of your callings is to, you know, And I can see that you have that gift. So let's talk about that. But first, let's start with your new book. Tell us a little bit about this new book that you're working on, Till Death Do Us Part.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, as you know, my husband and I were married for 28 years, divorced for seven years because of adultery and several other things. But in 1996, God miraculously reconciled us, first to Himself and then to one another. And then we had 24 more years of a wonderful marriage. And I always tell people that God's reconciliation looks a whole lot different than just plain reconciliation. He always does exceeding abundantly above all that we can ask or think according to the power that works in us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Jackie, first of all, 28 years marriage, it was not good. Then divorced, so that's 35 years of that chunk, and then remarried almost as long as you remarried the first time, 24, and that it was glorious and such a different marriage. And as you put it, the marriage that God led was so different than the first marriage. You said it was a new man, that he really was transformed. I love your testimony. It's so inspiring to me.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it is exciting for me, too, because it was something that I never dreamed could happen the way it did. But God did reconcile us, and he's asked me to share in this new book, Till Death Do Us Part, that he is still in the marriage business. And we learned how to do marriage God's way. And that was what He really wanted when He reconciled us, for us to be an example of marriage His way, the way He intended our marriage to be from the beginning. And we experienced so many miraculous situations He supplied all of our need according to His riches and glory by Christ Jesus. And He loved us individually and collectively through that 24 years of marriage. And I just want to share with women and men, but especially the ladies, to take advantage of the love that you have in your marriage and to make God certainly not just the center of the relationship, but to be able to saturate your relationship with the love of God and His instructions for your marriage. The Lord has taught me to share with younger women some of the things that I have learned in this, well, in both marriages, really, but especially in this second marriage. And, gee, I don't even really like to call it that we were remarried because it was truly, totally new from the beginning to the ending. And as you know, my husband went home to be with the Lord in December 2020. And even that, his parting was so sweet that there were lessons learned in that also that I want to share with people and with women in particular. Sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I want to hear that for sure. I mean, I've heard some of the story, but share with us.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, first of all, in the beginning of our marriage, the second marriage, the Lord, I was still very reluctant, and the Lord had told me to trust Him with all my heart and lean not to my own understanding, but in all my ways acknowledge Him. And he would direct my paths. So I went into this second marriage, even though we had forgiven one another and we had made the decision to bury all the old stuff, all of the lies and the unforgiveness. We buried that before we married. and never to bring it up again and the miraculous thing is we never did bring up any of the old memories the old hurts and that to me was the first miracle wow yeah because um i i had been really hurt in that last marriage But God saw me through the divorce. So as we walked through this new marriage, Ronnie was a totally changed and new man. And that was the second miracle for me, because at first I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. And it It never dropped. As a matter of fact, there was not a shoe. He wooed me and he loved me and he cherished me in this second marriage. And the reason was he was sold out to God.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER 02 :
He was sold out to God. There was not a pretense. there was not any phony anything. He was sold out to God. And the Lord had told me during the divorce that he said, you asked me to speak to him face to face, just like I did Moses. And he told me, I can't speak to him face to face because you are still in his face.
SPEAKER 04 :
Whoa, Jackie.
SPEAKER 02 :
I love that. He said, stop trying to help him. Let me speak to him face to face. And I backed up. I took my hands off. I was not anymore enabling him in any way. And so through that time, the Lord was able to speak to him face to face. And Ronnie told me he did. I asked him, I said, when we were divorced, did you ever think about me? And he said, every night that I laid my head on the pillow, he said, the Lord was speaking to me about you. And I was like, wow. So anyway, the lesson I learned in that is when God does it, he does it well. Scripture says he doeth all things well. So when we have our hand in things, it can be half done. It can be totally jacked up. But when God does it, he does it thoroughly and completely. And he does it according to his will. And that's what I learned in that situation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. So you had to give up control or what you thought was your control because you didn't have any control over Ronnie.
SPEAKER 02 :
I had none. I had none. And in this marriage, I was able to see what a complete job the Lord had done on him. And, uh, with his heart, I was downstairs one day, um, doing something and Ronnie was upstairs and all of a sudden I heard him say, thank you, Jesus. Praise you, Father. Hallelujah. And I was like, wow. I said, Lord, you really did him well. You really fixed him because I had never heard him break out in praise like that to the Lord.
SPEAKER 04 :
So when you talk about, you know, women, you know, I know you mentioned he golfed and that his mistresses would golf with him and that you were never interested and you felt in your heart like you hadn't shown interest in something that brought him joy, but you were irritated because you were working and sometimes he wasn't employed. And so you saw it was kind of like a thorn in your side, this golf. And then you realized this was important to him. And that maybe you should have given him more of like the time of day when it came to, or his golf the time of day, so that he'd feel appreciated or admired or respected.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, the Lord actually told me that I said to the Lord, what about all those women? And he said they played with him. And I said, okay. See, I was never a playmate. And I would suggest to wives that you play with your husbands. What is it that they enjoy? And whether you enjoy it or not, at least go with them. And so in the second marriage, Ronnie bought me some golf clubs.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I learned the game of golf.
SPEAKER 02 :
and i would go with him sometimes i still didn't i still wasn't into it like he was because if the sun was up ronnie was on the golf course so i still though learned the game of golf and i helped him with his with his stance i would tell him um You're not holding your head down. Your weight is not even. I would go with him and just check out his stats and all that. He appreciated that so much. He loved that. So I would say to you ladies, find out what your husband's game is.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Yeah, I'm thinking about that. Let's take a break because I hate it when you and I run out of time. So we're just going to take more time today. So hang on. We'll be right back with the good news with Jackie Calloway.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, it's The Good News with Angie Austin. Jackie Calloway and I continue our conversation. She is talking about, you know, the divorce. Well, first of all, we'll just recap. Love That Would Not Let Me Go. That's the book that Jackie and I have talked about a lot. She's working on a new one now, Till Death Do Us Part. She and Ronnie were married 28 years and then they were divorced for seven and then remarried for 24 years. fantastic fabulous amazing years in that marriage the Lord was right front and center and you said that golf was something he loved in your first marriage you just saw it as a thorn maybe in your side that took him away from you and work and the girls and then you're saying that when you were remarried the Lord made you realize that was important to him and you should play with him. And so we should figure out what is our husband's game, what brings our husband's joy, what should we be doing with them that they might consider to be fun. So continue with that thought and I'll tell you something we've been doing lately.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, it's very important that you show your spouse that you are just as interested in what he is interested in And that even if you don't go all in with it, and especially if it's something wholesome, I'm not saying get involved with something that is off the rails.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. We don't want to be out gambling or at the horse track with them or, you know, poker.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Off the rails. I love it, Jackie. I'm not going off the rails, girl. Don't worry.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, don't. But to... Almost study your husband and see what excites him and what he enjoys and get involved in that. And be that lap that he can lay his head on. You remember Delilah and Samson and Delilah. He laid his head on her lap. Be that lap that your husband can feel safe enough to lay his head on. And the other thing that I would say to you ladies, cherish your husbands. Look at them and see. Don't always pick out the fault, what they're doing wrong, what they're saying wrong. But look at what they're doing right. Look at the qualities that are in your husbands that God has placed there that you can appreciate and bring to their attention. I used to tell Ronnie in the second marriage, I appreciate that you're such a good provider. You look and see what I need. and you supply it for me and I appreciate that. And the other thing that Ronnie would do when I would go to the grocery store, I would come back and I would bring in one bag and then he would get up and go out and get the rest of the groceries and bring them in. He never wanted me to lift too much or Carry a heavy load. And I appreciated that about him. But see what your husband does that you can appreciate and that you can thank him for and that you can praise him for.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, yesterday he did so much. Well, he got the kids working, too. They washed my car. They cleaned out the hot tub and refilled it. And it's heating up because I said it might be nice to use it for the winter. And then they washed my car. um he fixed the garage door which that took a lot he had to reinstall like he had to do a keypad and then put in the whole device up top you know get up on the ladder and replace the entire like none of the mechanisms the mechanism was broken so we had to do that and then they got all the leaves out of the front and backyard and bagged them to go out to the trash then my daughter the little one did like four loads of laundry and we folded those and then she went around the yard and picked up you you know, trash. And then my son, oh yeah, he had my son doing all kind, like all day. And then they had their chores at night, which was like, you know, clean the kitchen. You know, that takes like 15 minutes. But my husband even wrote them all like a thank you note saying, wow, you guys really helped out today. We got so much done. And he winterized the sprinkler system And then we have a swamp cooler, which is like old school, but it works so well. But in the winter you have to cover it because all that cold air still can get into the house and like circulate. So you have to like winterize it and cover it up. So anyway, they did all of that in one day. And so he told me, I'm shocked that his brother's getting a divorce. We just found out that they, after about 15 years, they're getting a divorce. And I, my, my chin fell on the floor. Like I thought they were best friends. Like my husband and I are, there's just two boys in his family. And so we were really surprised. I said, what? Why? Like they they they don't have money problems. They don't have I mean, they just I mean, they're like beautiful people and they have a beautiful home, a beautiful life. And, you know, she stays home and he has a great career and he's going to retire with a pension at like, you know, in his early 50s. And I'm like, why? Why? he said well you know how you compliment me all the time and like you kind of build me up and make me feel good and you're really appreciative of like the work i do and this that and the other which i it was great to hear that from him because i do make an effort to make sure he knows he's appreciated and i believe he could do anything he just finished a brick walkway in front of her house that took like five months because he had to dig so much and lay cut each of one of the paver brick stones and it was just it's like a piece of art and it's long it's you know it's like i don't know 30 feet long and wide like four feet wide it's just it was so much work and um i mean some of those bricks are as big as a domino that he cut like i can't even believe he did it and he said well she doesn't every time he wants to do something she says you can't do that or what what you're not going to do how do you know how to do that you don't know how to do that and he said that she's very critical of him whereas i am complimentary and i thought What a horrible reason for a marriage to not work when you've got their daughters maybe... I don't know. They don't live here, by the way, so they don't hear my show. But she's about maybe 10. So, you know, they're getting a divorce. And I'm like, why can't somebody swallow their pride and work this out? This seems like the most unnecessary divorce to me ever. Just learn how to communicate better. But... You know, they're going through with it and they're selling their house and they're doing all that. And I'm just so surprised because to me, it seems so unnecessary. And I just feel, you know, people throw in the towel too easily. But something as simple as complimenting your husband, which I mean, gosh, think about the effort that I put into that over the last 20 years of our marriage. Not much. I mean, it doesn't take much effort to tell your husband you appreciate all the things he does and how hard he works for the family. and then i compliment him in front of the kids and say you know if you can do a job like dad does it then that's an a plus job we always joke around that sometimes the kids will do c effort and i'm like you'll never see your dad give c effort everything he does is a plus effort like when he did our tile in our bathroom he learned to do it on youtube and then he didn't like that the shower they he had to pour it with concrete it wasn't like just a plastic thing you threw in there and he had to get the grade exactly right and he felt at the back of the shower the little bit of water settled and he'd have to push it into the drain and so he broke it apart and redid the entire thing and i'm like No one would have even known that when we sold the house because the shower would be dry. No one would know that there's like a one-inch puddle, you know, that goes the length of the shower. But he had to redo the entire thing. And that's just an example of how everything he does has to be done well. And so look at that little bit of effort I put in our marriage that makes the difference between, he thinks, his brother's marriage and his.
SPEAKER 02 :
But when it is not God's marriage... it makes a huge difference. Because one of the things I told you that God ministered to us in the second marriage, individually and collectively. And if you both don't have a relationship with Jesus Christ, it makes all the difference in the world. And when things would get We really never argued in the second marriage. Wow. But we didn't always agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
Because we're two different people. So how did that work? Well, the Lord had told me before we married, if you ever can't agree on something, come aside with me. And that's what I would do. And that's what Ronnie would do. I would, you know, I would be like, oh, Lord Ronnie is thinking this way, and I can't believe he's thinking that he's going to do this or that, the other. And the Lord would say to me when I would get quiet, but what is your attitude? I'd be like, But wait a minute, I'm talking about Ronnie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, that's funny.
SPEAKER 02 :
And he would be like, what is your attitude, Jackie? Check yourself according to the word of God. And I would always be able, and Ronnie would too, and sometimes I'm going back to apologize for him, to him, for not trying to understand where he was coming from. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And he would be on his way to apologize to me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it was supernatural, I'm telling you. But it was because both of us were yielded to Jesus Christ and the Word of God and making the marriage work. But you need two people. You really do need to have two people.
SPEAKER 04 :
With one. With the Lord holding hands. Yeah, and with the Lord in the middle. Now, when you talk about ministering to younger women, how has that, obviously that's good advice for women in terms of making their marriage happy, making sure that they do things their husband enjoys and play, have fun with them. We've been doing family movie nights. My husband's not a movie guy, but we've seen a couple of good ones. We saw that one on that Duck Dynasty family and his testimony there. And how he really started off on the wrong foot in their marriage, which I think you'd really get a kick out of. I'll get the name of it because I forgot what it was called. But it's about how they had also separated and they were going to end their marriage. And they ended up becoming... highly successful and had that show Duck Dynasty, which was big for many years. And it's The Blind. So we went to that. He liked it. It was a little corny, but it had a great message and his testimony of how the Lord changed his life and transformed their marriage. And boy, they've been married almost 60 years now or something. And and then we've done a few dinners and we went to the theater this weekend. We went to Mama Mia and we took the girls. And so we've been trying to do family things, which I know he gets a kick out of that because we do a lot of family sports together and stuff like that. So we've been doing that because that's kind of he doesn't do anything separate from the family. He doesn't do any golf or fun or boys' nights or anything. It's work or family. That's it. And so that's what I've been doing with him. And since the kids are all in high school, we know we don't have a ton of things left. And he even went to Disney with us, which isn't really his thing, but we had a blast. We went on fall break and we did Universal Studios, like the Haunted Nights, which the kids all love. And then I went with my nephew as well, who lives out in California. And then we did Disney, which... He kind of gave in and did it with us, even though it's highway robbery. But he had a blast. He didn't complain the whole time about lines and how expensive it is. He had fun. So we're trying to do more things together as a family because we know that that's limited. And maybe eventually we'll take a vacation without the kids. But at this point, we're just kind of trying to squeeze out all of the fun out of what we have left for you know, the family time since one of the kids is graduating this year, one next year, and then one in three years. So we've just got, you know, a bit of time left. I want to make sure people can find you, Jackie. What's the best way for people to find Jackie Calloway?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, Healing from Crisis is my website. And you can also, the ministry phone number is 303- 307-0707. That's the office phone number. And we also did premarital counseling.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love that. Well, let's talk about that more next week because we're out of time. We used up the entire show today, just you and me, and I hope you all enjoyed it. Thanks for listening to The Good News. I'm Jackie Calloway. Thanks, Jackie.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
Join us in this episode as we navigate the complexities of today’s financial landscape. Hosted by Barry Kite from Gundersen Capital, we begin with a comprehensive update on the stock market indices, revealing a nuanced picture of market gains amidst one of the longest government shutdowns. Barry and co-host Jeff Webster dive into the impacts these factors have on travel and airline operations, sharing real-world experiences and prognostications about the future.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning and welcome to the Wednesday, October 15th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am Barry Kite, planer and analyst here at Gunderson Capital Management, sitting in for Bill today as he's traveling the friendly skies to get over to St. Regis, the St. Regis and lovely Longboat Key. So he won the lottery in terms of us three here today, Jeff, but... We'll see what happens with the FAA, though, why he's getting over there. But markets, he'll be happy to hear this. Markets are up. We've got pretty much all green on the screen besides Bitcoin. We've got the Dow up 0.83% at this moment, up 379 points to 46,650. We've got the S&P 500 in the green as well, up over a percent, 1.07% to be exact, and that's hitting that. I think it's got to be an all-time high. We're at 6,716, so I'm pretty sure we haven't said that number on the show yet before. Also, we've got the NASDAQ pushing, getting closer to that 23,000 mark. We've got 22,809 up almost 300 points, up 1.3% today. We've got crude oil gaining back a little bit, still under $60 at just under $59.00. Up about a half a percent today. And gold continues to go up, up 1.48% at the moment. So above the $4,200 level at $4,204. And as I said, Bitcoin, the only thing in the red here, down a percent today, just under $112,000 per coin. But again, good morning and welcome to the Wednesday, October 15th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. I'm your host, Barry Kite, pointer analyst here at Gundersen Capital. taking the wheel for bill as he's traveling down to uh down to south florida today the sarasota longboat key area and uh as always excited to have jeff webster joining me on the show today thanks for uh thanks for sitting in there is my wingman how's it going it's going great delighted to be here today it's been a while look forward to it Yeah, I mean, you know, it's short of kind of Friday's hiccup. It's felt, at least it feels pretty good lately. We'll see how long that lasts. But, of course, not all rosy for everyone. Some of our government workers, obviously, are still busy. Still at home. We're in the 15th day, if we're counting at home, 15th day of the U.S. government shutdown. I'm interested to see, kind of get some boots on the ground perspective from Bill today to see how his flight goes this morning. Hopefully not too many hiccups for them. It's not a long flight down there, so hopefully everything will go according to plan. I don't know if you've heard any stories, Jeff, but I've had a small sample size, but we had a couple of friends over the weekend who were traveling with their little ones and families. And the short version was, you know, their experiences ranged from interesting to disastrous. One couple had to stay over an extra night. The other couple had their kids around some folks who were probably a bit over-served and maybe sitting in the airport maybe a little bit too long. But, yeah. They all eventually made it to where they were going safely, but not quite sure how much of that really falls on the TSA or air traffic control issues. But the airlines sure have someone to blame at the moment if they want to for their delays. But it's likely to... Likely have a chance to continue the blame in the shutdown, though, for a couple more weeks. We've seen some prediction markets where this could end up being one of the longest shutdowns in history. I believe the longest one was from December of 2018 to January of 2019. I think that one lasted about 35 days. the odds of it lasting over 35 days went up yesterday. And from what I hear, it sounds like we've got the money to pay our military and Coast Guard, thank goodness, today. But then two weeks from today, Jeff, they're going to be wanting another paycheck. And those funds may be a little bit harder to scrounge up. So, We've got another two weeks on the end of this. That would take us to 29 days, which would be a little bit under that record amount. But I did see somewhere where I think this is the third longest shutdown that we've had over the years. So we'll do with that what it is. But looking forward to getting an update from Bill once he gets on the ground down there in Florida.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. Wishing him safe travels today. I know that I have, I've got family traveling today to different places. So we'll look forward to getting their feedback as well. Now it's my understanding that the TSA is not impacted by this shutdown. I'll need to double check that, but they have a defined contract.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I remember that sheet that you sent over that was pretty interesting in terms of who gets paid, who doesn't get paid, why they get paid, if they do get paid. And it was actually pretty enlightening. Of course, there's a lot of government laws and red tape and stuff that defines a lot of those different iterations of those employees and And so it'll be, you know, I know on the air traffic controller side, I saw something, I think it was end of last week, where they had the most, I guess, air traffic controllers out that they've had since like early 2022, I guess, whenever, you know, travel picked back up after COVID. So we'll see as long as, you know, delays are one thing. As long as everybody gets there safely is the most important thing. Well, I guess before we read today's tea leaves, we can recap yesterday's market activity. It's exciting to see. It's always nice when we host a show and we've got plenty of green on the screen. Yesterday was a bit more of a... A mixed bag. We had the Dow finishing up. The Dow was actually up yesterday just over 0.4%. The Dow and the NASDAQ were down. Or S&P, I should say. S&P and the NASDAQ were down. S&P was down about... 16 basis points, NASDAQ down just over three-quarters of a percent. But the NASDAQ, seeing some numbers, NASDAQ's gotten, I believe it's gotten back all of its gains that were lost, at least where we're at sitting right now, all of the gains that were lost on Friday. Obviously, market activity continues to be driven around. You know, rhetoric revolving trade with China, and we'll get into some of that push-pull. You know, we're finally getting into some earnings season, so we'll actually have some data to kind of run through later on the show. Of course, heard, I think, on True Social Post, I guess, you know, at first it was a battle over rare earth minerals, right, and chips, meaning, you know, we'll trade you. some NVIDIA chips for some rare earth minerals. And now it seems that we might be trading some soybeans for cooking oil. So we've gotten, we're touching the entire spectrum here where, you know, basically that we may consider ending ending some of our cooking oil trade with China. I guess we'll start making our own cooking oil over here. I guess I didn't really realize that we didn't make a lot of our cooking oil over here, but it's a fairly interesting trade-off. Not the trade-off I thought, the headline that I would see when we woke up this morning, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
It'll be interesting to see how those markets, futures, And forward contracts are impacted by, you know, that banter that's going back and forth in those areas.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, and we've got clients that are farmers, and actually I talked to someone last week who, you know, they've been harvesting soybeans. It's a good thing for them. They're not impacted as much because they have the ability to store the soybeans. And so they can kind of, of course, wait it out a little bit in terms of pricing and actually getting those soybeans delivered. But it's still a big crop for the U.S. Corn and soybeans are kind of the two huge farming, kind of the cash cows for a lot of American farmers, that and throwing some wheat there. So we're kind of gotten this trade-off, I feel like, where we're moving from trade, and then finally we're moving into some earnings. So we'll get into some of those earnings when we get back for the second segment of the show. We're just getting started here on The Best Stocks Now. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 02 :
And welcome back here to the Wednesday, October 15th edition of the Best Docs Now show. Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital, taking the wheel for Bill today. And as usual, we've got Jeff Webster joining us on the show. Obviously, Jeff, a lot of you spoke to him, advisor here at the firm. And glad to have you here. Glad to have him to banter back and forth with. Of course, when we look at on and off air. Of course, we've still got plenty of green on the screen. Not much has changed with the markets. I know I need to go back. I know Besson was scheduled for the press conference around 9.15 this morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm not seeing anything yet on Besson. On that, I checked about 10 minutes ago, hadn't seen anything.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I figured either maybe the press conference is a little delayed, or at worst, nothing was said either overly good or overly bad. It doesn't seem like the... He does pretty good in front of the microphone in terms of talking the markets, and of course, he's been... Been in it for a very, very long time and kind of knows how to navigate that space from a market sentiment standpoint. So it will be interesting to see what his comments are once they come out. But the good news is the NASDAQ is up 1.36%, leading the way, and all the other equity indices are in the green at the moment. You know, it's pretty interesting. I know we had, you know, we look at the markets today. We kind of have this, you know, we've got this push-pull narrative driven, you know, on one end by headlines and, of course, on the other end via data, primarily earnings data. And the primary, you know, news driver certainly as of late continues to be tariff talk as we observe exactly what happened with the rhetoric. On Friday, with the market taking a tumble, as the president mentioned, the November 1st 100% tariff threat deadline on China. And then, of course, it kind of cooled over the weekend and stocks recovered pretty significantly on Monday. Yesterday, China kind of talked a little tough, and we kind of went backwards just a bit with the mixed day yesterday. And then, of course, now we've got things back in the green, so a bit up and down. But the good news is I think we're getting these – Bill always talking and obviously talking about stock prices follow earnings and just the way the earnings cycle works is you end up with these periods of time between earnings season and that's where some of the, whether it's rhetoric, news driven or just you know, sentiment kind of drives the market. And then, of course, we're kind of made it through that, made it through that pretty well. And now it's kind of the handoff over to, you know, handoff back to earnings. And, you know, we usually we get the financial earnings are usually the first ones that kind of kick it off. But, you know, we, you know, right now it's just, You know, we kind of sit back and wait. I was talking to a couple of clients yesterday, and I had a client ask you, you know, what happened on Friday? And it's, you know, really, it's just not an event you can really hedge much against. I guess gold has probably been the biggest hedge for that. It's just things get said and markets move, whether it's uncertainty or whether on the actual word said. And then, of course, we get the data side kind of brings us back a little bit more towards reality. And the banks have really – we'll highlight some of those in the second half of the show. But banks lead us off in terms of – earning season so we got that uh we got that kicked in and speaking of lead-offs what i you know your your your dodgers and the seattle mariners are off to a pretty good uh pretty good pretty good start to the to the uh championship series what both uh both starting out two and oh so you know our seattle listeners and uh and and you as a dodgers fan you got you probably feel pretty good today huh
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely, absolutely. Yamamoto, first pitch of the game, he gave up a home run, and then he ended up pitching a complete game. First time since 2004 that a Dodger pitcher has completed... A full game in the playoffs. Yeah, and I saw something. It was impressive.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I saw something. There hasn't been a complete game in the playoffs pitched by anyone, I think, for, like, I think it was eight years to the day or so. So just pretty remarkable in today's era of, you know, bring your reliever in at the four-and-a-half inning and just, you know, go – throw a million arms at you in the last uh last half of the game but yeah started out starting out two and oh good news is you didn't have to you didn't have to it wasn't wasn't much of a nail biter as it was for your first game so you should be you should be well rested these managers very they're also jumping into the ai craze they're using analytics they're using all this information uh
SPEAKER 03 :
the classical movie that was out, you know, a dozen years or so ago, Moneyball. It's all, it's all analytic driven and stuff like that based on how they think things are going to perform.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and Billy Bean, of course, at the A's, and then some of that, one of the first kind of, I guess, through that ecosystem, the first disciple that went out from the A's, I believe, actually went to the Dodgers. I think he ended up somewhere on the East Coast eventually. Um, yeah, I mean, uh, you know, data, was it your, I think your, your picture of the night before had a little, didn't he pull out like a cheat sheet and had, uh, and had some of those, you know, kind of had his pitches already, already planned out ahead of time, which is pretty, uh, pretty remarkable. I hadn't seen that before. Um, but the, uh, Usually they're just checking to see if they have any sticky stuff on their hands versus pulling out your... It reminds me of the old play sheet on the quarterbacks where they're flipping and going through the play sheet. What Snell pitched, a very good game, too. But, yeah, the thing is, with the financials leading off, just a ton of, from an earnings standpoint, investment banking has been a very big bright spot for these financials, which we've seen deal-making. We'll get into some of the deals. the AI deals that just keep, you know, it seems like every day we hear of a new AI deal. But in terms of, you know, an environment in which, you know, in which investment, right, it seems like it's a pretty good environment for dealmaking, a pretty good environment for investment banking. And, you know, M&A activity was pretty much, you know, pretty much, not much for the last you know say call it to two years or so and so it's a you know nice to see some of that back it just shows you that companies You know, either they feel the need to invest or they feel that it's a good time to invest. And a lot of that's related back to where we see asset prices going in the market. So we'll get into some of those earnings when we get back for the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 02 :
And welcome back to the second half of the Wednesday, October 15th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I'm Barry Kite, planer analyst here at Gunderson Capital, serving as relief captain for Bill this morning as he's traveling down to the St. Regis for a conference he'll be speaking at on Friday at the St. Regis in Longboat Key. If you're interested in attending, you can always give Edie a call at 855-611-BEST. That's 855. 611-2378. And, of course, if you're interested in getting a copy of the newsletter or talking to Jeff or myself about how you're positioned and how we could potentially help you or at least lead you in the right direction, you're always welcome to give us a ring, 855-611-BEST. It's 855-611-2378. Or, of course, you can reach us at the website at GundersenCapital.com. But it looks like markets remain in the green. So the good news is Bill should be having a smooth flight as long as he made it on there. So he'll be pleasantly surprised with the green on the screen, right? And, of course, real quick, before we get into some earnings, I mean, this is primarily a stock-driven show, but in 2025, we really can't talk about the global markets without mentioning gold. It's just been a remarkable run. I heard a comment from the famous economist, Ed Yardeni, recently said that gold is the new Bitcoin. So we're seeing really a historic rise in the precious metal, also on the silver end. Obviously, silver has precious metal characteristics, but also is an industrial metal. So a little bit different demand function there on the silver side, and we've got a bit of a short squeeze in terms of delivery of silver at the moment, and that's what's been kind of sending those prices to historic levels. But, you know, I mean, continually seeing estimates on the street.
SPEAKER 03 :
Barry, take a minute to talk about the difference between Owning physical gold versus purchasing some type of an ETF equity or investing in a mining company. What should investors be thinking about or listeners be thinking about as they consider those types of options?
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Yeah, and so, you know, you kind of laid out three different options, right? Obviously, you know, we could go, you know, buy the physical bullion, right? The trick there, obviously, you've got to store it and, you know, protect it and... You know, where do you store it, right? And holding physical gold, right? You know, a lot of times that's going to be driven by, you know, if we've got some kind of, you know, apocalyptic type event or you've got, you know, you've got where, you know, a run on banks. You don't want to keep your gold bars at your safety deposit box because when you need it, guess what? You may not be able to go to the bank and get it. So there's kind of that natural thought process of I want to keep it close and have it next to me, the physical gold. The tricky part there a lot of times is finding liquidity. If you wanted to sell it, a lot of times you're going to take a bit of a haircut when you go to, you know, somewhere to sell that physical gold. On the ETF side, you know, to me, the most important thing is you want the ETF to be backed by physical gold. So we use, you know, at the firm, we use GLD, for example, GLD, every share of GLD that's issued. there has to be that amount of gold behind the scenes available to back that particular ETF share up. There's some ETFs out there that you want to be a little bit more wary of that use futures contracts, right? So they don't own the gold. They have... exposure to gold via, you know, the futures market, right? It'd be like if you and I, you know, orange juice futures, right? We're not holding the, you know, the old trading places movie. We're not holding, right, you know, physical frozen orange juice, you know, at our house. We own a futures contract on that particular commodity. So, The further you get away from the physical gold, in my opinion, the kind of more risk or just more chance that say that ETF doesn't react exactly with gold because you can have other variables affect futures contracts that may not affect, that you don't have to worry about if you actually own the gold or if you have an ETF that's backed by the gold. And then, of course, the third element is, you know, Owning a minor, right? The part about a minor is, of course, they have to run the business properly, right? So it's not just about the value of the underlying commodity. Obviously, it depends on how well they are operating the business, what their expense structure is. What their debt structure is. So one of the you know, one of the reasons why you'll see some, you know, gold gold miners, you know, significantly say outperform the price of the metal is because, you know, they may be using leverage. Right. Most businesses are going to have some component of debt. And so, you know, using debt, right, will allow them to, say, get that metal out of the ground more efficiently. And they're using someone else's money and their cost of capital is, you know, lower, usually with debt financing versus equity financing. And so you get, you know, a bit of a kicker. Think of, you know, the micro strategy, for example, if you were, you know, as a Bitcoin, you know, miner or holder of Bitcoin. they're borrowing money and buying Bitcoin, and so you have a leverage component to that particular business. So it's probably the best three layers.
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Yeah, I like the latter two myself. A little more tradable, usable. Certainly on the gold mining stocks, you can track performance better. You can track profits. There's something behind that asset that you've purchased, which in the case of a gold mining company, the stock, there's something that you can actually tie to as opposed to just hoping that someone is willing to pay more for the bar of gold than what you paid for it.
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Yeah, and liquidity too, right? Liquidity function with an ETF, right? If you want to sell that GLD position today, right, we can go into the equity markets and be out of gold in a matter of seconds if we want to versus – You know, versus I always tell this story. I had a client years ago who had, she had about 80 grand in gold that she wanted to sell, right? And it was probably one of the more tricky kind of things that we've ever kind of tried to figure out. So me and my head of financial planning practice in Nashville. And so we were, we had, you know, okay, how are we going to sell this $80,000 worth of gold coins, right? And the biggest trick was getting the gold from her house, to the place where we're going to sell it, right? It's like, okay, as financial planners, we could help her. You know, hey, throw it in the trunk. Let's go, right? You know, my partner was a great marksman, right? He certainly could have protected it along the way. Did he have a Brinks armored vehicle? Yeah, that's what we ended up having to do. So, of course, the firm is like, yeah, probably not the most compliant thing for you guys to just hop in the car and drive it over there for her. Um, and so, yeah, we had to get rent to literally had to rent a Brinks truck, came and picked it up and took it to the place. I think the Brinks truck costs around 2,500 bucks at the time. I mean, it was, you know, what happens is it's expensive to sell it. So at least in the equity markets, right, we can get out of it, uh, get out of it pretty quickly. And on a side note, in terms of holding the physical, uh, metal, I've, had a number of prepper clients over the years, and they're bigger on holding junk silver. Silver is kind of an easier thing to break up in terms of bartering versus breaking off some tiny piece of gold. They focused on if you're going to hold something physical, their suggestion was holding silver, but that's to each their own in that sense. The only problem with silver is, of course... It weighs more, so you've got to need a bigger safe.
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What weighs more, Barry, a pound of gold or a pound of silver? That's a trick question.
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That's a trick question, yeah. But to have 100K of silver or 100K of gold, right, you've got to have a – it's a lot heavier to move around. You need a reinforced floor in your – In your basement or wherever you're storing it, right? Yeah, and it's just pretty remarkable. I've actually seen some numbers where gold has actually outperformed the equity markets over the last 20 years. I've got to go double-check that number myself, but I did read that this morning in prepping, no pun intended, for the gold discussion. Well, we're three-fourths of the way through the show, and we'll be right back and finish up and get into some earnings finally.
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And welcome back to the October 15th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. I am Barry Kite, planer and analyst here at Gunderson Capital, sitting in for Bill today. And Jeff Webster is also joining me on the show. We've got still some strong numbers in the market here. We've got NASDAQ still up 1.28%. We've got the S&P up just right at 1%, and the Dow bringing up the rear there, still in the green up. 0.63%. Gold also just under that 4,200 mark, up 1.31%. But I'm always, you know, we've got some big earnings, and you finally got a tech company.
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Should I jump into it, Bear?
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Yeah, get in there.
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Should I jump into it?
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ASML, are we going to start there, or where are we going to start?
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Let's talk about the banks first. I mean, these guys, they're the best sandbaggers in the world. If you look at them, you know, we've got Bank of America, earnings beat. Citibank, earnings beat. BlackRock, not a bank, an investment and asset management company, big earnings beat. Goldman Sachs, beat. JP Morgan, beat. Morgan Stanley, beat. Wells Fargo, beat. Some of the major regional and super regional banks, Citizens and Synchrony Bank, big beats. And so the question is, is why, why is this happening? And really it, it kind of narrows to five key things. One, um, you know, their net interest income and yield curves, uh, tailwind stuff, of course, banks profit, uh, from the spread, uh, that they get from what they pay for deposits and short-term funding. compared to what they're loaning out on their longer-term assets. So that's been going good. Two, they have a very, very resilient consumer and corporate credit position right now where they have lower losses. You know, there's been fewer defaults. That space has remained very stable and even improved. So delinquencies and charge-offs were down. they're seeing strong fee and non-interest income from trading, capital market activity, and investment banking. So merger and acquisition, equity and debt underwriting, IPOs, advisory fees, all those types of things are going up. And then, of course, more people and institutions jumping into the market produces better trading revenue. Fourth, They're becoming very good at operating leverage and managing their costs. So good, good activity there. And then just based on how the markets have been going, you know, since things recovered from the tariff talks, I mean, there's just good, positive sentiment out there that is driving consumer and institutional finance activity in the form of borrowing and investing, all very, very good stuff for the banks.
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And Morgan Stanley, I mean, Morgan Stanley, they're obviously going to be more on the investment banking side than, say, your traditional bank. I mean, their numbers, I think they know the assignment. They came in, earnings came in at $2.80. Estimate was $2.11. Yep. And, you know, so it's quite a beat. And baggers. Yeah, and then I don't know if this revenue number was, I got to double check if this is really the consensus number, but net revenue was $18.2 billion. the estimate was $10.7 billion. So they, you know, kind of basically over, you know, almost beat it by, you know, close to 100%, almost 80% here in terms of... Well, the bar will be risen going into the fourth quarter.
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You know, I was looking at what the estimates have all kicked up now. Now, flipping over to our... Our semiconductor space, ASML, our Dutch company that, you know, I think they're Europe's largest company right now. They reported net sales of 7.5 billion euros with net income of 2.1 billion net income in euros. That's pretty rich net income on that 7.5 billion euro. in sales. So very, very impressive.
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And then, of course, the other thing that... Go ahead. Oh, no. They just had one of my favorite things that I've heard in a while. They said, order surpassed estimates in the third quarter, and it noted that sales next year would not be less than 2025. I'm like, what kind of guidance is that? I've never heard that before. It's like, hey, good news is sales are not going to be lower than this year. So, yeah.
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Barry, we mentioned BlackRock. So there's a group that includes BlackRock, NVIDIA. They are buying aligned data centers in a deal worth $40 billion. And so they've got this group, what's it called here?
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I think it's AIP. It's that consortium that they basically, what, got about $100 billion that they're working into the AI space?
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They're committing to... Yeah, and it has a bunch of different investors and foreign investors, and they are looking to acquire Align data centers for $40 billion. So, again, that data center space is still really very, very hot. You know, you think of – I mean, we all think of, okay, all the machines and the chips and stuff like that that are going to go in to run the applications that – are so critical, but I also encourage investors to think about the picks and shovels that need to go into operating those data centers, building those data centers. You know, you need wiring, you need cooling, you need heating, you need flooring. You need construction companies. Those are all... Need some land. We need land. Exactly. Exactly. Those are all things that investors should be looking at. You know, one of our favorite holdings is Virtus. You know, as you drive by a Virtus building, it looks like this plain vanilla building. industrial distribution company. No, it doesn't even look as fancy as that. I mean, the pink's peeling a little bit, but they do really good selling all the picks and shovels that these data centers need. And so it's really quite exciting to see how that goes. Now, with that said, we need to temper our enthusiasm in AI investments and make certain that we're making good choices there because there is you know, what many say a bubble that could burst.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And it's Wednesday, so that means it's Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. They have locations in Westminster, Loveland, and on Parker Road in Aurora. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And that is for to-go or to dine-in. And they have great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and happy hour. In particular, they've got great fish and chips and great nachos. And I've not had the fish tacos, but I hear they're really dynamite. 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Force can be a weapon, but it could be compliance, policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. the agenda of the World Economic Forum that's played out at the United Nations, but also played out with this Colorado governor, this Colorado legislature, and we also are seeing that on the local and county levels as well. So that's why we have to shed light on all of this that is going on. Our word of the day is potentate, and it is spelled P-O-T-E-N-T-A-T-E, and it is a noun. It's one who has the power and position to rule over others, a monarch, one who dominates or leads a group or endeavor. and one who is potent, one who possesses great power or sway, a prince, sovereign, or monarch. And with that, it may be looking like the Biden administration. They were basically potentates. This is going to be super interesting to see what is happening regarding Obama controlling Biden and that administration. So the headlines are pretty interesting. So this is going to be a stay tuned on this. But your challenge is to use the word potentate, P-O-T-E-N-T-A-T-E in a sentence today. Our quote, I was looking for perseverance quotes, and I found a really good one by Vincent Van Gogh. And of course, I love his paintings, but he had a troubled life. But great quotes as well. And that happens in life. But Van Gogh was born into a upper middle class family. He was born in 1853. He died in 1890. And he was a Dutch post-Impressionist painter who was among the most famous and influential painters in the history of Western art. In just over a decade, he created approximately 2,100 artworks, including around 860 oil paintings. That's amazing. And most of them in the last two years of his life. And during his lifetime, only one of his paintings, The Red Vineyard, was sold. And as I said earlier, he was born into an upper class family and he drew as a child and was serious, quiet and thoughtful, but showed signs of mental instability. As a young man, he worked as an art dealer, often traveling, but became depressed after he transferred to London. He turned to religion and spent time as a missionary in southern Belgium. Later, he drifted into ill health and solitude. And this is the quote that I think it's very appropriate for perseverance. He said this, he said, For great things do not just happen by impulse, but are a succession of small things that are linked together. That's why every day when I say strive for excellence, if you do this day by day, what will happen is these small things will become big things. And again, that's the quote by Vincent Van Gogh. Several headlines I wanted to go through. is, first of all, this is from Fox News. A Doctor Who actress admits she had Trump derangement syndrome before the Gaza peace deal. And so I think this is a pretty big deal. And I was talking with someone just yesterday, a young person, and said this is really difficult for the radical activist left to continue with this no kings narrative when that's all about Trump derangement syndrome. And here he said, I don't know many kings that actually are brokering peace deals. And I thought that was a very interesting point. But this says British actress Frances Barber conceded Monday that she changed her view on President Donald Trump. following his role in brokering a peace deal between Israel and Hamas earlier this week. She said, I had TDS and I'm now eating my words. She wrote on X on Monday, reposting a photo showing a thank you message to Trump written on a Tel Aviv beach. So that's huge. Next thing, yesterday, President Trump awarded Charlie Kirk posthumously the Medal of Freedom, which is the highest medal that can the highest honor for a civilian. And of course, the Medal of Honor is the highest award for a military officer. um, person and, um, that this is a good time to mention the American, um, the center for American values located in Pueblo. Their website is American value center.org. And they do a beautiful job honoring our medal of honor recipients with their portraits of valor. Also their medal of honor quote book. And I'd highly recommend you check, check them out. They are nonpolitical, nonpartisan, but focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity and patriotism. And so in a this is from let's see, this is from Newsmax said in a poignant and deeply personal ceremony in the White House Rose Garden on Tuesday yesterday. President Donald Trump posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to conservative leader and Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk on what would have been his 32nd birthday. After receiving the medal from the president, Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, delivered a heartfelt tribute that blended grief with gratitude, transforming the ceremony into a celebration of both her husband's life and his unwavering faith in the ideals of liberty. She said, today we are gathered not only to celebrate Charlie's birthday, but to honor a truth that he gave his entire life to defend, and that's freedom. Her voice was steady but reverent. And speaking of turning point, this is absolutely brilliant. If you have not seen this yet, the NFL... They have decided that they're going to have a Latin rapper, Bad Bunny, be the halftime entertainment for the Super Bowl. And I did a little bit of research on it, and apparently he had done an album with, now I'm dating myself, had done a song. One of them was I Like It with Cardi B, it was Bad Bunny, and J Balvin. And I don't know, obviously, much about that. And Cardi B, I've just heard from different people. They said she does some pretty nasty stuff. So I thought, okay, let's just take a look at this. I thought I'm going to look up some lyrics. And so one of the big hits by Bad Bunny was I Like It. So I looked up the lyrics, and it uses the B word, and it uses the N word, and it's focused totally on... jewelry and diamonds and furs and all kinds of things like that. But I thought it was just really interesting to use the B word and the N word. And again, I find that so crazy that if you are of a certain skin color, you can use the N word. And if you're not of that skin color, you can't use it. I feel that's racist. But anyway, these are not songs that celebrate the human spirit. But yet the NFL has decided that this guy's going to be the halftime entertainment. And I don't really watch the halftime entertainment much. I think last year they said that there was some satanic, maybe not even overtones, maybe it was not even subtle. And so this is crazy that the NFL, and of course we always hear about all the advertisers and how much money they're spending on their ads and advertising. Well... Turning Point has come out and said that they are going they have announced this was USA Today. Gosh, this was five days ago. So you've all probably heard this. But anyway, they have announced their All-American halftime show on Super Bowl Sunday. And so they're going to have a live stream of this All-American halftime show. And this is absolutely brilliant. This is so creative. And that is what's so great about the American idea is creativity and competition. So just think about this. Probably at least half of the audience for the NFL Super Bowl halftime is not going to be watching. How's that going to work out with the advertisers? This is going to be so interesting to watch. So stay tuned on that. Let's see, what else is I going to mention? I think that's it. So more on the local level. First of all, go to my website, kimmonson.com. There's a ribbon at the very top, and you can download my voter's guide. And it's very extensive as far as our analysis. And I am not telling you what to do. I just am working to provide you a tool with all of the information that so that you know what you're really voting about, and took positions on both the statewide issues regarding, I have this in air quotes, healthy school meals for all children, and what it is, it's a tax, really an in the tax to tax people that make over $300,000 or more. Bear in mind that ultimately, these programs will be unsustainable without more and more tax revenue. So you may think that you're just soaking the rich right now with this. But in essence, this sets up bureaucracies that will have to be paid for. And when there's not enough money, you'll see they'll be coming for you as well if you're not making $300,000 or more. So it's based on envy. That's never a good policy. And then the other thing is... I have this again in air quotes, vibrant Denver, almost a billion dollars in debt that the people of Denver would have to pay off. There's five questions on that, and I give the reasoning why a no on that. Additionally, I've listed all the county clerk's phone numbers so that you can contact them and get a hold of any of the candidates that you want to talk with regarding the mayor race, city council, or school board races. And then also from the Colorado Municipal League, they had, it's not total, but a pretty extensive list of all different questions from different municipalities. There's some wild stuff on there. It's clearly not freedom stuff. So check that out. Next thing this Saturday, October 18th at Res Church, 6502 East Crossroads Boulevard in Loveland is the Northern Colorado Republican Governor Forum. I will be moderating that. You can sign up. It's free, but go to NoCoWrapUp.com. That's NoCoWrapUp.com to get more information. And I think 15 out of the 18 candidates will be there. You'll be able to meet them. And it's going to be super interesting. 4.30, doors open. The program begins at 5.50. Let's see. There was one. Oh, the cut report. Our Colorado Union of Taxpayers report is just about close to being on the Web site. So stay tuned on that. It's a wonderful analysis of the Colorado state legislators. And then lastly, I attended a Douglas County. Commissioner's hearing regarding this big sports complex that is being proposed in Douglas County. And I love our kids getting out and getting exercise. I love our kids putting down electronic devices and competing. I love all that. It was really interesting to watch. And I have to learn more. I'm going to learn more about this project. But there were a couple of things that I found troubling. And that is that not everyone that signed up to speak was given the opportunity to speak. And also, Democrat Representative Bob Marshall made a point, there's some land that used to be part of the DuPont munitions plant, and there's some concern that there might be some contamination on that land. Apparently, the commissioner said that there's assurances from CDPHE that everything is okay with the land. But Representative Marshall brought up a point I thought was interesting, and that is that if there's nothing wrong with it, the developer should indemnify the people of Douglas County in case... The reports are wrong. I just thought that made some sense. So stay tuned. I really I want to stay focused on the issues. There was a lot of personality stuff going on yesterday. I'm concerned about that. But just stay tuned because I want to learn more about that particular project. We are an independent voice, and regarding the voter's guide, there was no PBIs that influenced me. There was no corporation, no entities that influenced me. 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I am well. And as you and I were texting back and forth on preparation for today, you mentioned you'd like to give us an update on Pano AI. And I think this, isn't this the surveillance in our forests? Am I remembering that right?
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Yes, the wildfire detection camera system, Pano AI, is... One of the companies who's working on the cameras that will technically, as they say, watch for smoke versus dust versus clouds and then have an AI that's flagging things and has a human in the loop as well who can look at what's flagged and determine if it's noise or not. But, yeah, it had come up in the state level. last year and two years prior as well. And those bills did not go through. But Pano is working with independent organizations and companies such as Xcel Energy and I think Aspen Fire Department, Telluride, Tellur County, Boulder, Douglas County now, and onwards. They have cameras now in 10 states. I just saw $100 million in contracts right now. And they say they're covering 30 million acres between here, British Columbia, and Australia. That is the latest figure that I got off of a speech that the CEO had up in Aspen. But the moderately good news is, whilst I was asking last year during testimony if we can have a public portal for transparency here, That wasn't being very well heard. However, Washington State and a utility company in Portland, sorry for the dog in the background, both have put up transparency portals, which I just found. And you can sign in and actually see what the cameras are looking at and then what's being pixelated and what is not being pixelated at that point. So I just dove into that the other day. I'm trying to see if there's a way to zoom in or what have you. Right now, you just get a general panorama, but they do talk about their incredible Zoom capabilities. And I can't see that yet on the public portal. That might be for more of the need-to-know users, such as the fire departments or whatever. So I really can't figure out yet how much detail you can get.
SPEAKER 14 :
I wonder if they're going to have that on the transparency.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can see sky, airplanes, things like that, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
This is super interesting. Okay, I guess we'll just continue to think about that. That is very, very interesting. I've got to think more about that, Mike Rollick.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would say that possibly one of the things, and it's brought open discussion, but You know, we do have a legislative season coming up, and in the spirit of transparency and AI, I would hope some state legislator can put something together to create more public transparency, to have these portals be mandatory. Things like that would at least be a small start. I'm not comfortable with the cameras in general, but, you know, what do we do to start that process?
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, as I'm thinking about this, there's part of it I'm saying, I'm thinking, gosh, the idea that we could have anyone looking at this information, I'm like, huh, and how detailed that is. I mean, it's almost like everybody could spy on everybody else. So I'm a little uncomfortable with that. But then I realized that we've got government that basically is spying on all of us through the narrative of wildfires. So I guess right now I like transparency, though transparency is always a good idea. Let's change over to this other subject that you mentioned, and that is an update regarding the Bat Lab up in Fort Collins.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, yeah, this is pretty big stuff. Okay, so we've talked about the upcoming bat vivarium for the Indian flying fox bats that will be coming out of Thailand and Bangladesh. This is regarding the established breeding colony of the Jamaican bats. And now I found out that they're looking to possibly bring in Egyptian fruit bats as well. So... I understand, I think we all understand that there's probably a million different contracts and grants, awards, sub-awards that go across every year over people's desks. But this is a big one. It's September 15th of this year. Colorado CSU Fort Collins got an award for the establishment of a bat resource for infectious disease research. $2.193 million. And what this would do, it would establish a breeding colony of Egyptian fruit bats as a reservoir resource for investigators who study viruses such as Ebola, Sudan, and Marburg. Now, Sudan, I looked into it, is also known as Sosuga virus. This is a Brand new virus discovered in 2012. Egyptian fruit bats at a principal natural reservoir are Marburg virus and Sosuga virus, it says. And it also goes on to say this research will generate primary cell cultures and immortalize cell lines. And they mentioned cytokines and monoclonal antibodies for use in detection. And finally, it says we will perform experimental infection studies to And it says of and with, but I think that's a typo. Either of or with Ebola viruses, Sosuga virus, and SARS-related coronaviruses. And it goes on. I don't know if it's pronounced this way, but B-A-N-A-L 52. It looks like Banal 52 and 236. So right there in black and white. Unlike what we saw with the Indian flying fox, which they just said they would keep healthy breeding colonies there and bring them up to the Rocky Mountain Labs in Hamilton, Montana, they say right here they're going to perform experimental infection studies, Ebola virus, Hasuga virus, and SARS. What they want to do, SARS-related coronavirus, sorry. They'll look at infection kinetics, virus distribution, And then a few other things they're going to look at, proteomic profiles and metabolomic profiles where they look at metabolites. And sorry if I butchered any pronunciations. They want to study the bats during infection, the escalation and the resolution of the immune response. So the escalation is an interesting thing. And if anyone's out there who knows more about this, please let us know. What does the escalation of an infection mean? Okay. They go on to continue to say your tissues, cells, and the sera from naive and infected bats will be archived in a biobank that will be made available to the research community. And that's upon virus inactivation. But my question there is, does the research community show up? to CSU Fort Collins, does it get shipped to other places? I've seen also sometimes they have online repositories of how the disease actually is and I've read things about that being a biosecurity risk as well because then it becomes like some form of public domain. What's going on here at CSU Fort Collins, the interesting thing here is this award was granted in September 15th of this year but not funded yet. And I know Jody Ernst has been quoted as being quite upset about this, and she's making some noise. But I would say as an action item, the subcommittees right now, both the House and the Senate Subcommittee on Labor, Health, Human Services, and Education are We don't have any reps from Colorado that are in either the House or the Senate subcommittee. But still, people might want to reach out to those subcommittees and, you know, and express their their discontent here, their worry. OK.
SPEAKER 14 :
OK.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, yeah, Mike, we're out of time on this. It's always such important information. Final thought is probably reach out to you said those on the subcommittees. Again, what were those committees?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's the House and the Senate subcommittees of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and then the House also says related agencies as well. But yeah, just to be clear, the public health relevant statement says they will perform experimental infection studies in bats. And we literally have a brand new disease called Sosuga that was discovered in 2012. And they want to do it here.
SPEAKER 14 :
I wonder how they discovered that. So, Mike Rolick, we'll talk again next week. Thank you for being a watchdog for We The People. Really do appreciate it.
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Thanks, Kim. Have a great day.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. On the line with me is Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. He is a scientist. He's the founder of IPAC-EDU. And IPAC stands for the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. And welcome, Dr. Jack. It's great to have you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good morning. How's everybody out there?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we're doing well. There's lots going on. Before we get into the subjects that we want to cover, just give us an update on IPAC-EDU. We're into the fall season, school season, so tell us a little bit about what's going on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we've got a number of courses that are running. I want to emphasize that today is the last day to register for Brad Miller's Literature as resistance. So all the classic books from George Orwell, you know, the book 1984, all this Huxley, Brave New World and a few others that were handpicked by Brad and myself to encourage adults and our youth alike. to be on top of what the messaging is and the importance of fictional literature as a medium to protest tyranny and to not do anything as if it's a blueprint. It seems like the other guys read these books and think that it's a blueprint for the future. So, you know, we absolutely have to work against Bill Gates and You know, globalists, we have to make sure that they do not take away our individual rights and freedoms. And this is a very important course. So, yeah, go to IPAK-EDU.org, and you'll find Literature's Resistance as you scroll through the registration page.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and I took a course that Brad had taught regarding this literature as well. And he is very knowledgeable, very thoughtful. The other students, very thoughtful as well. And that's the beautiful thing about IPAC-EDU is it's interactive, it's affordable, and it's really remarkable what you've put together at IPAC-EDU, Dr. Jack.
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Well, thank you very much. We're honored to host Brad. He's a former commander in the Army who actually refused to relay the tyrannical order to force vaccinate. um people serving under him uh and he quit he quit and he has no pension so if you want to help a true american patriot sign up for the class and come meet brad and all the other people involved in these discussions he's he lived his creed he stood up to tyranny and he's paid dearly for it so that's why we're trying to help him out this way
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I do do so much appreciate that. So let's go over to some of the news headlines. The first thing you had written at Substack under that's popular rationalism, that there were a lot of people that were a bit concerned that the Bora, who is the CEO of Pfizer, was at the White House photographed next to President Trump. And you said that there is optics and strategy. So break this down for us, Dr. Jack.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so a lot of people misread why Borla, who's the CEO of Pfizer, would come in and be celebrated at the White House with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., my friend and someone who I advice on a weekly basis, why they would show up and talk about drug prices in America and Oz was there and so on. And as much as it was bad optics, the focus wasn't on optics. It also wasn't on Borla, the individual, although he tried to make it, of course, in the press conference about himself, trying to imply that he had some special relationship with With Oz, who directs PMS, saying that it was it was his that Oz was the mastermind of all of this. And in reality, Oz was probably the guy that called him and said, you know, President Trump wants you there. We are going to insist that you no longer drop. drug prices for overseas markets so that socialists paid less for drugs that were developed using American dollars and that you're not going to fund socialism on the back of the U.S. economy, basically. Why do we spend so much more money balancing the sheets when Pfizer is giving discounts and others are giving discounts to countries whose politics lead inevitably to communism and tyranny? So if you look behind the headlines of Borla and the detractors of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saying he's a sellout and these kinds of things, it's absolutely not true. And this was just the first. Other drug companies have been called to mass, so to speak, since then as well. So President Trump actually signed an executive order on this matter. It's Executive Order 14297. titled Delivering Most Favored Nation Prescription Drug Pricing to American Patients. So now there's the other contingent of health freedom groups that say, well, we don't want their pharmaceutical drugs to begin with. But the fact is that message is probably not going to get to the elderly and other people who feel that their health depends on these pharmaceutical products. In some cases, blood pressure can be a very serious thing. It can lead to stroke and heart attacks and so on. There are drugs that keep people going because they don't know the natural alternatives or they don't know other health influence factors, as we call them. So, yeah, I think it's a decent event. It's a decent development. So I gave it some coverage when I saw people detracting from it. My analysis says, let's make sense out of it. And that's what we do at Popular Rationalism.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, thanks for breaking that down because I didn't quite understand this. So I think I'm getting this is that Pfizer has been providing the same drug to countries that are pushing socialism at a cheaper price than what Americans are paying for that. Am I getting that right? Is that what it was?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that's exactly correct. Also, Albert Bourla is not off the hook if he did any wrongdoing during COVID, the man, the individual, nor anyone else at Pfizer or Moderna who would publish. Our criticisms remain. They publish their science by press release, not by peer review. They would put out a press release, and their stock would go high, and they would dump half of their stock the next day. This is a strategic pump-and-dump scheme, which is technically illegal, insider trading. So why didn't they sell it the day before? Right. It's worth taking a good look at that. Plus the false potential falsification of the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines claims that they would stop transmission, which we now are not true, which, of course, they tried to bury by saying they never studied that. But, you know, let's get to let's see that later. defended in court. So I don't think people can stay confused very long when they realize there's a difference between Pfizer, the company, and Borla, the man. And yet Pfizer themselves have a lot to account for. I think it's nine sessions in a row their stock is going down. I mean, they're paying dearly for having to be held accountable for some of these, let's call them games.
SPEAKER 14 :
Dr. Jack, you and I met during COVID. And so we've watched history. We've been going through history together on this. And boy, when we were in the deep, dark depths of that, it didn't know what was going to happen. But what I think the dot I want to connect here is that ultimately transparency matters. is going to remedy these problems. So here we are these years later, and we're going to have the opportunity to look in the back, the rearview mirror and see what happened. And so we're at a really interesting time in history, Dr. Jack.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, we really are. I mean, we now have hundreds of thousands of people that are being paid to find ways to make America healthy again. Not necessarily all by the government either. There are many, many organizations. IPAC is one of them, the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. IPAC-EDU is another. Maha Action, the Maha Institute. These are organizations that are focused on making sure that what we know that's published in the scientific literature is actually given as due consideration when we make public health policy or when we consider medical policy. As opposed to just cherry-picking the results that your friends want you to use when you make policy to support their vaccination program or something. People decry the antibiotic resistance as if there's an emergency, but they never tell you the rest of the story, which are non-antibiotic. generic ways of fighting infection. I mean, iodine is one of them. Peroxide is another. And I don't just mean topical infections. There's actual medical procedures where you can draw some blood out and put a safe dose of peroxide in the blood, and our bodies produce peroxide to fight infection. So it's nothing new to human biology. It's been happening for hundreds of millions of years in mammals. So we're looking at a transformative period in which what are considered alternatives may go mainstream in medicine, it's just not going to support this huge behemoth of, I see it as a parasite of allopathic medicine, that is filled with gatekeepers to make sure as much money is made every time someone has a headache.
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Boy, this is super interesting. We're going to go to break. I'm talking with Dr. James Linesweiler. You can find him at Substack with Popular Rationalism under Popular Rationalism. And then also check out these courses, IPAC-EDU. And he said today's the last day to sign up for this. What's the title of it with Brad Miller? Literature? I think it was mine was Literature.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's Literature as Resistance, and it's a fascinating course.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. And Veterans Day is right around the corner and a great way to remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty is to support the USMC Memorial Foundation. And that is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We're talking with Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. He is a scientist. He is the founder of IPAC-EDU. I'd highly recommend that you check out this course. This is The Last Day by Brad Miller. He was, I think he was a colonel in the Army. And he refused to force all of his troops to take the vaccine and ended up he left the army right shortly before retirement. This was a big deal. But he walks his talk and really fascinating. It's interactive. You can sign up by going to IPAC dash edu. Dr. Jack. The Trump administration, we're in this shutdown. There's people that are being fired and there's a bunch of people, it looks like, being fired at the NIH, the National Institute of Health. So what should we know about that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, yeah, well, thanks for asking. We saw this month. agency directors being replaced, but also sub-agency directors across the board. It's a purge, and it's for the health of the agency. We want to restore objective science, and a lot of the narrative enforcers have been replaced. If you go down the list of the people who have been replaced, there's... NIAID director who worked with Anthony Fauci. She inherited Anthony Fauci's legacy and was collaborating with him. And she steered infectious disease research after COVID-19 started. And there's another replacement coming for someone who oversaw perinatal and developmental health portfolios. you know, in place for a long time without ever addressing causes of autism, speech delay, you know, learning disabilities, ADHD, and so on. The NIMHD director said, focused on agency-wide equity in health, equity research, and if you know anything about the politics of equity, that really is already built into how we do medical research. You're supposed to make sure, if you're doing medical research, that everyone from all walks of life our walks of life are represented. And scientifically, you should restrict, if you say do a study only on men, you should restrict your translation of that at market only to men. And so you really want a representative population. I'm not much for just nitpicking about words, but you can see the kind of the vacuousness of making sure that Everything is equal for everybody, everywhere kind of mentality and what that's done to society. We've talked about that a lot. Nurse-based translational care, you know, nurses are taught, hey, this is what's coming to market and this is why you're going to stop doing this and start doing that. And not really taught the science of it because the science often doesn't support it. It's just a business decision more so. So the narratives have to be And then the deputy director worked on inter-institute strategic initiatives. So these are some pretty influential people. You are looking at a major, major change where these people have been in positions of power while our health as a nation has tanked. Um, and that's, you know, part and parcel of what Bobby promised to do. There are people that are giving him pushback. There are people that are losing the keys to the factory. Oh, we can't really do that. Or they're lying to him and they're saying, Oh, we already do all that. You don't have, you have a new initiative that's already been tried. You know, this kind of mentality of institutional, um, momentum, the, the, the just sticks in the mud kind of thing. Um, And so we'll be able to get some new blood in there, get some new people and some people that will shake up what's going on. And quite often, I think, people that will be willing to relay orders from the secretary or his office to fire people who are causing problems. Because many times these people will stand by people that are under them, such as the former CDC director, who was recently let go, Susan Moneris, because she would refuse to relay orders. the information that someone was going to be put on administrative leave. So, I mean, we have one director, sorry, one secretary of HHS, and his name is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And he came in with a mission to make sure that he could create an effective Department of Health and Human Services that would help make America healthy again. And we don't need people that are going to stand in the way.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so where are these people going to land? Do you think, Dr. Jack, these people that are being fired, these high level people that have been at NIH and NIAID, where are they going to land?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the FDA director, the CBER director from the FDA, Peter Marks, just got a very cushy job with Eli Lilly. There was a CDC director who oversaw what I call the fraud on the science to try to convince the public that vaccines do not cause autism, Julie Gerberding, who took a job at Merck after regulating them. So I expect these people are going to be – You know, welcome with open arms at pharmaceutical companies. They probably all have golden parachutes and deals on the side, you know, just waiting for them for the greasing of the skids that they did for, you know, cutting of the corners on behalf of pharmaceutical companies. This is their payoff period, I would imagine.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. This is such an interesting time, but to make America healthy again. One other thing, I didn't see the headline on this, but somebody said that they're going to get rid of pizza and potato chips, I think, in school lunches. I loved pizza and potato chips when I was a kid at school. So what's going to happen with that? We've got just a couple of minutes left.
SPEAKER 10 :
School lunch reform is absolutely essential. It's actually the entire dietary guidelines at FDA are scheduled for an overhaul. It's really interesting that you ask about pizza because if you're within the sound of my voice, I want to tell you something that may change your life. We allow aluminum in carb-rich foods like pizza or pancakes. And on a routine basis, if you eat pancakes on a regular basis, if you don't look at the label and you make sure it's aluminum-free, which there's no required labeling even, if you don't make your own pancakes with aluminum-free baking powder, you're eating a toxic dose of aluminum in your pancakes. Infant Formula still has doses that are higher than allowed by Europe. I'm about to, on Popular Rationalism at Substack.com, probably tomorrow, we'll be running a story on how we have to reform... the allowance of aluminum in baked goods. And if you think about it, I've heard, we always hear, if you go on a ketogenic diet, you feel a lot better if you have autoimmunity. If you go on a carnivore diet, it really helps with rheumatoid arthritis. And if you're cutting carbs, if you go low-carb, then some of these chronic illnesses seem to be less severe. And I believe that it's due to a reduction of your daily dose of aluminum. Aluminum is used to reliably and routinely induce autoimmunity in animals by feeding it to them or injecting it to them, so I don't know why it's in food.
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The headlines that I had mentioned in the hour number one, I think they're important. The Doctor Who actress who admitted that she had Trump derangement syndrome now has changed her mind because of the Gaza peace deal. And apparently there was somebody had put on a beach near Tel Aviv, thank you. And so that's a pretty big deal. Next, yesterday was would have been Charlie Kirk's 32nd birthday. And President Trump posthumously awarded him the Medal of Freedom, which is the highest award that can go to a civilian here in America. His wife, Erica Kirk, accepted that. And she said that Charlie gave his entire life to defend freedom. and a very short life on that. Next thing, and I've got to do more research on this, BlackRock CEO Larry Fink says we are beginning the tokenization of all assets. And I have a feeling I need to have a conversation with Jenny about that because she's pretty well informed. And then I also mentioned that the NFL has announced that the Halftime Entertainment is a Latin rapper named Bad Bunny. I went and looked at some of the lyrics of one of his hit songs, and it does not celebrate the human spirit. This whole cultural war, this music influences so much, and it does not celebrate the human spirit. But what I find so interesting is Turning Point USA has announced that they're going to have a competing competition halftime show the all-american halftime show which will be streamed during the Super Bowl this is so interesting because I feel there's some arrogance with the NFL just say you know kind of you know pushing these performers down our our throats that we would never listen to exposing our kids that everybody's watching the Super Bowl and exposing our kids to different things I looked at the lyrics of one of his hits and it uses the B word, it uses the N word, and again, doesn't celebrate the human spirit. So the fact there's going to be competition, stay tuned. I find this super interesting. What is that going to do to the NFL and their advertisers? It's just fascinating. So be sure and stay tuned. We're going to watch that with... A lot of curiosity on the local level. Several things to mention is my voters guide spent a lot of time on that. And I want it to be a tool for you as you complete your ballot. You are all very smart and. Consultants and politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties try to influence you to get what they want. Be informed. And I hope that my voter's guide can help you with that. Go to KimMonson.com. Click on the ribbon at the top. We'll give you a link to, we'll send you an email with the link and you can download that. You can copy it off. And so check that out. The Governor's Forum, the Northern Colorado Republican Governor's Forum is this Saturday, October 18th at Res Church 6502 East Crossroads Boulevard in Loveland. Doors open at 430. The program begins at 550 and I will be moderating that. I'm very excited about that event. and Trent Lisey is working diligently on getting that all organized. You can sign up. It's free, but go to NoCoWrapUp.com. That's NoCoWrapUp.com. And Gammy asked via text if it's going to be live-streamed. It is live-streamed on the YouTube channel BetterNateThanNever, B-N-T-N, And so check that out. And then let's see. Oh, I forgot to mention it in the first hour. Regarding the school board candidates, I was presenting last night to the United Community Leaders of Colorado. And someone mentioned that transformcolorado.org has done some great research on the school board candidates. they sent all of them a survey and then they have noted their results or if they didn't hear from them that should be a great tool for you for school board candidates so be sure and check that out transform colorado dot org and then on the issues on the statewide ballot as well as the Five big Denver bond questions. I did deep analysis on that in my voter's guide as well as included the phone numbers for all the county clerks so that you can give them a call and get the contact information for any candidate that you want to talk with. And so hopefully that will help you be very informed. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And he was helping Karen Levine, the two of them, help to man the microphones last week when I was traveling. And that is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. He can help you in all 50 states, just not New York. And Lorne Levy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
So what should we know? I've been a little out of the loop. So what should people know about the Fed and interest rates and mortgage rates?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, we're in a little bit of a quiet period right now between Fed meetings. And, you know, there's discussion of what will happen in the future. Will the Fed continue to lower? You know, it really depends on who's making the news and who's putting the headlines out there as to whether they think that will happen or not. But in the meantime, we've, you know, I talk to you all the time about the 10-year U.S. Treasury. And today it's about 401, 402. So it's the lowest it's been in a month. And that's creating opportunity where rates are at a good place, relatively speaking. They're in the lower sixes, which is a good number for a lot of people. With our office, we're helping people that – I'm refinancing a guy today who – at a rate of like 7.6, get down to like, you know, sub 6.5. So it's saving them a ton of money. We've been doing that a lot lately for people that have bought a home in the last couple of years that have a rate with a seven in front of it, or even a really high six number. We're really helping them save a lot of money. And in today's world, that's a lot of dollars that can go to something else. We know people are struggling at a certain level. You know, and then on top of that, our values are holding up somewhat, you know, we're seeing a little bit of dip in values maybe, but on the reverse mortgage side, With the appraisal still holding up, it's a really good opportunity to help seniors who need access to money.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. And it doesn't cost anything to give you a call and just noodle around where each person, where they are in their lives, because everybody's different. But it doesn't cost anything for them to have a consultation with you, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
100%, that's right. You're absolutely right. Everyone is different, so everyone has different credit scores, different circumstances, but there's a lot of people that don't know they can be helped or are just not aware and are, quite frankly, spending money they don't necessarily need to be spending that could be going to something else. So it's always worthwhile to have a conversation.
SPEAKER 14 :
And in essence, if they're saving money on their mortgage, that's like saving after-tax dollars, right? Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
A hundred percent. And imagine if you're saving, you know, three, $400 a month on your payment, that could be a car payment. You know, someone might need a new vehicle and they can't, don't think they can afford one. Well, we can save them on their mortgage and they can turn and put that money into a car payment and solve two problems. Or we all know the rates on credit cards right now are in the mid to upper 20s. and people are carrying a lot of credit card debt, and they can help put that extra money towards that. Or even if they have a low rate on their mortgage and they come and take a new loan just to get rid of all that credit card stuff, overall they could be saving hundreds of dollars a month and making their life easier. So we really can help people alleviate some of the burdens that they have financially just by looking at their numbers.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. So, Lorne Levy, what's the best way for people to reach you?
SPEAKER 07 :
The best way is always just call at 303-880-8881. If we don't answer, just leave a message and we'll get back to you right away.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. And again, that's Lorne Levy, Everything Mortgages. Sounds like there's opportunity right now. And so give him a call, 303-880-8881. And Lorne, thank you to you and Karen for manning the mic for me last week when I took a little bit of time off. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No problem. It's our pleasure.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it sounds like you guys had fun. You had fun without me, and I'm glad about that. So have a great day, and we'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 07 :
You got it.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Kim, is it Wednesday already? Mid-October. October's half gone. Did you know that?
SPEAKER 14 :
I know. And, in fact, we normally record for the week of Thanksgiving. And Producer Joe said to me yesterday, he said, Kim, be thinking about getting everything organized so that we're not just totally slammed the week before Thanksgiving as we're working on that. And I'm like, how could it be October 15th? I don't know. But it is. But there's so much going on in our world. And it's great to catch up with you. And so let's talk a little bit about a few things. And first of all, Trent, I took a few days away from the studio. And this eminent domain thing, it's out of control. And this affordable housing thing is out of control. Ended up taking some of the back roads from DIA home. on Wednesday and I'm looking at apartment complex after apartment complex after apartment complex and we continue to hear that there's not enough dwelling units in America. I'm wondering if they're trying to build a a individual unit for every man, woman, child in America under the guise of affordable housing and using eminent domain. And one of the headlines that I've seen is that in New Jersey, they're trying to use eminent domain to take a 175-year-old farm for, again, air quotes, affordable housing, which what that is is that's government subsidized housing. It's government housing. So what's your thoughts on this farm in New Jersey?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's not only the farm in New Jersey. I believe that's about six months old, right? But this is happening every day somewhere. And it's really what brought you and I together is that the very concept of individuals owning land does not fly with the globalists. The globalists have their power play on today. And I had a very interesting discussion with J.C. Cole this morning on a rural route. People often ask me, what is Bill Gates' issue? And people think he's the largest farmland owner in the United States. They report that he's the 51st largest owner, but he owns 100% farmland. In other words, he's tillable. He doesn't have any rangeland. He doesn't have timber. He just has tillable land. And so people theorize that. Well, he must be chasing where there's water because I had a friend contact me this week. There's a standing offer in certain parts of Kansas where Bill Gates has just a standing offer with people. If land's available, buy it. If a farmland's available, same thing in Holt County, Nebraska, where he owns a big chunk of his Nebraska property, which is about 24,000 total acres in Nebraska. And I finally, Kim, figured out what I think he's doing. and he's not buying land to get a corner on the market because you can't get a corner on the market when the federal government owns one in three acres. But what he's doing is he's buying land and putting it at an appraised value, appreciated value is a better word, that causes all other land prices because when they do an assessment for your property tax or when somebody else buys property, His and his crony's influence in the land market scenario puts us to that point that Klaus Schwab told us about years ago, you'll own nothing and be happy. And to me, this eminent domain for affordable housing is just another step in that process to create something that people, everyday working people, cannot own. It's going to be owned by the government. You're going to live in a 15-minute city. And, oh, by the way, the other revelation I've had with my friend in New Zealand is Damien Buckley, because all technology is and involves cows and, you know, this, you know, I'm going to put it and not talk about cows, but, you know, your dog fence, your invisible dog fence where you put a collar on a dog and it keeps it on your lawn so it doesn't run away. Well, we're doing that now. We're not. I'm opposed to it because I think the frequencies are harming animals. But we're now putting collars on cows, and we can manipulate where they graze and do rotational grazing, which is absolutely essential for soil health and plant health and cow health. But I'm beginning to see that this is all just a training ground to put people in what we're calling a 15-minute city, building this low affordable housing system, so that we can put these 15-minute cities together and keep people confined. I really think it's that severe.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm concerned about it, too. And we had our Colorado Union of Taxpayers board meeting the other night, and I want to say thank you to this group. They are amazing. They're all volunteers. Steve Dorman, Greg Golanski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, David Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. Trent, what... Well, one of the things I brought up, I said, I would really like to, and this is because you and I have all these conversations, I would really like to decouple property taxes from assessed valuations. And then somebody said, well, how are you going to do that? I'm like, I don't know for sure. But I really think that that's a great thing for us to try to take on. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, 100% right. And if we do not decouple it, we will not afford to own land.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's the play that's on it right there. You just went right to the core of the challenge that we have.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, we've got to go to work on it. Now, there are some states that don't have property taxes, right? Or isn't? Did I see a headline? No, that's not true. It's not true? Wasn't Florida? Didn't DeSantis say something about that? Or am I dreaming that?
SPEAKER 09 :
I guess I can't speak to Florida. I know that people often reference Texas. And Texas is a very interesting scenario in that they have some of the kinder They have an agricultural exemption, so to speak, which doesn't exclude them from property tax, but it gives them a great reduced rate. But that is becoming a problem in Texas as well because their residential rates have skyrocketed and continue to outpace any other state in the nation. I mean, Kim, let's face it. Until we start talking about getting government in line and spending more of what their budget allows them, we're going to have a problem. It is all about spending at the school. Kelly went to our school board meeting this week. I'll be going to our county commission meeting next week. They just try to find ways to spend money. It has nothing to do with educating kids.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, that's a perfect segue into my voter's guide, which we published in the newsletter this last weekend. And people can get that at my website at KimMunza.com. There's a red ribbon at the top. And just click on that, put in your name and your email address, and we'll send you a link for that. But that's one of the comments I made is that government is out of its proper role to at the local, the county, the state, and the federal level. And I think people understand we have to have some government and we have to have some taxes, but we are way out of control and we've got to get this put back in the box. Or America, what we're passing on to our next generations is, well, it's unconscionable. The fact that we would I think in ways I say that we're living on the fumes of freedom of those that have stepped forward to give us freedom. And we are squandering it right now. And we have a responsibility to get this all put back into the proper box, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 09 :
Did you come up with that? We're living on the fumes of freedom?
SPEAKER 14 :
I did. That's mine.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's brilliant.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, in fact, I may steal that, and I'll give you credit for like three months, but then the statute of limitations will be up, and I'll take credit for it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I'll just know that this is recorded, and so we've got our proof.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know, but I feel like I'm going to give you credit for a period of time, and then nobody will remember where it came from. That is absolutely exactly what is taking place. I love that.
SPEAKER 14 :
well thank you thank you and um yeah i think we are and just we're going to go to break but this came in from patty she said florida has no income tax but has hefty property taxes de santa says he wants to move toward eliminating property taxes so i guess i did see that headline so that's going to be interesting and the only way that all this can happen is to reduce the size of government. But when government gets smaller, the individual gets bigger. We're going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce, and all of these discussions happen because of all our sponsors. The Second Syndicate is doing such important work to protect our Second Amendment rights. The founders put the Second Amendment into the Bill of Rights to protect all of the other rights. And so it's so important. This is here in Colorado, the right for law-abiding citizens to keep and bear firearms, to protect themselves and their families against bad actors. They've been taking just a cut each, well, several cuts at that particular right every legislative session. And we do talk about it at the cut ratings report as well. But thank you to the Second Syndicate for the great work that they're doing.
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SPEAKER 09 :
So there's been many concerning developments. For those that do not know, there were two positive PCR tests at the Universal Ostrich Farm in December off of dead birds, which is not in any way, shape, or form kosher. I'll use that word. You cannot get a true scientific report. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency said they were going to euthanize these birds. These ostriches have been used for the past four years to develop antibodies. to capture their antibodies. I found it interesting, Kim, that one ostrich generates 24, the same number of antibodies that it takes 24 chickens to generate. And so these ostriches truly hold a key for the future of humanity and any disease or toxin that we may come across. Canadian Food Inspection Agency has now, for coming on the fourth week, has seized the property. They have these ostriches in their control. The owners cannot get around the ostriches, and the people continue to show up, just concerned citizens about what the Canadian government is doing. They have a whole community there now with food trucks, and they had a ban there, and it's just turned into this tremendous awareness campaign. But what I wanted to give an update on, and Katie will be joining me tomorrow on the air tomorrow morning, when the Canadian Food Inspection Agency took over, there were 330 ostriches on that farm. With anonymous drone footage that's been flying in and around where the farm is, they're only able to account for 220 at this time. There have been reports of dumpsters leaving the property, and this is in direct violation of a stay order that has not been removed from the Canadian Supreme Court. So the concern is that they are slowly killing off these ostriches. And just as a little side note, which is kind of part of what piqued my interest, it is well known that Canadian Food Inspection Agency has been buying CO2 from local CO2 suppliers in and around the farm area edgewood british columbia is where this is taking place i know for a fact they have a a kill pin which they have lined with big bales of hay and it's pretty clear their plan for killing these is to put them in that pin maybe put a tarp over it maybe not because co2 does not rise it actually goes down and they plan to kill them with co2 The same exact CO2 that we have piping through our communities that will kill people as well. But that's an update. There's a tremendous amount of concern about where 100 missing ostriches are.
SPEAKER 14 :
Interesting. So CO2. I want to talk just a little bit about that, because those that are pushing all of these policies for climate change have demonized CO2. And when we talk about CO2 killing people, that seems to play right into their narrative. But CO2 is actually nature's So it depends on, it's like anything, the dosages of things. So address that so that people can't go out and say, oh, Trent Luce says that CO2 kills people, birds, whatever. It can, but clarify that so that we have that.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's not disputed that the new packing plants that process your animals use CO2 to kill the animals. That's what the chickens, turkeys, and pigs are doing. Cattle are not doing that. And that's at a 7%. In the atmosphere, CO2 is at 0.043%. So it's all about the amount of CO2 you have. And what happens is CO2 absorbs and just displaces oxygen. So the reason these animals die is because you asphyxiate. You basically just cannot get oxygen. And so at 7% you die if you have a rupture of a CO2 pipeline. For the folks in Denver, or excuse me, the Denver formation, which is under Cheyenne, Wyoming, for the folks in Laramie County, Wyoming, you've got another threat coming. We've talked a lot about the wind turbines, and now last week the Laramie County Commission approved a solar industrial center. That makes no sense whatsoever. But this CO2 that they plan to start running this year, 2025, from Nebraska ethanol plants is going to be put under the ground in Cheyenne, Wyoming. If you live in Cheyenne, Wyoming, you are up close and personal to the point threat danger of CO2 escaping and killing people. And this is not sensationalizing anything. I can get you the emergency manager for Yazoo City, Mississippi, who had 80-some people hospitalized when there was a CO2 pipeline rupture. They didn't know what CO2 was at that time when it happened four years ago. I mean, they being the emergency responders. CO2 is absolutely a gas of life, and without it, we cannot exist. But with it in the human body at 7% of our atmosphere that we're breathing, you will die within three minutes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and again, I want to make sure, because those that are using climate change as a narrative to push public policy to basically try to control our lives, there's a big distinction. And you're talking about, gosh, what is it, about 0.4? 0.043% of the Earth's atmosphere. Okay, and we can actually get up to 0.1, I think, and everything can really thrive and flourish. Are you talking about 0.7 or are you talking about 7?
SPEAKER 1 :
7%.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so that's so much more. Not 0.7, 7%.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's what we use in the atmosphere. And by the way, while we're talking about this and while we continue to have all of this discussion about Canadian ostriches, I just went into the USDA to look up what the USDA, who you know I'm not a fan of, has done to our bird population since October of 2022. We're now up to 175 million birds that the USDA has euthanized for the very reason they want to euthanize these ostriches. And in the past 30 days... 4 million birds in the United States killed in the name of protecting our trade partners with H5N1. Interesting note about what has been killed by the USDA in the past 30 days is over 50% of the birds in the USDA of the 4 million, so more than 2 million turkeys, have been killed in the last 30 days. Do we have anything coming up that might focus on a turkey in the upcoming days, Kim?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and the problem is they are just killing all these birds. They're killing healthy birds that have antibodies, and so that doesn't make any sense to do that. So we talked with Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. in hour one or actually it was mike rollick a citizen watchdog in hour one uh regarding this bat lab up at csu uh that they are doing research on they're bringing in different bats from all over the world and they're doing studying infectious diseases and so here we have that happening, bringing bats in to study infectious diseases. But then over here on the other side, we're killing all birds, ostriches, even those with good antibodies. Those things just don't make sense to me. And is that a dot that's too far out there that I'm trying to connect?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, not at all. And let's just use the ostrich situation because it's a good one. So two birds test positive to a PCR test, which is not accurate. But there were birds that died in December and the first two weeks of January. Since the third week of January, there have been no birds that exhibited any symptoms whatsoever. So to your point, those birds were clearly exposed to a virus, and their immune system propelled them through that, which means... Their antibodies are of tremendous value to anybody that we want to come to eliminate H5N1. There's the answer for elimination of H5N1. In the United States, we're doing the same exact thing. We don't identify the birds that have the natural immunity to withstand H5N1 virus because we just kill them all. We killed the entire flock to the tune of 175 million birds since October of 2022 and 4 million in the last 30 days.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, Trent, it seems to me that this bird flu that they try to scare us all with and that they're killing these flocks. But if this was really a problem in the bird population, wouldn't I see dead birds all over the countryside?
SPEAKER 09 :
You would. In fact, you can go find this yourself. Anybody can. They continue to blame migratory fowl as the cause for spreading H5N1. Yet we don't see dead birds, just like you said. And... The U.S. Fish and Wildlife reported in the spring of 2025, because the majority of the sandhill cranes and their northern migration crossed the Platte River in a very short 50-mile stretch between Kearney and Grand Island, Nebraska, they reported the largest migratory movement of sandhill cranes in recorded history. How is it that we continue to have record numbers of migratory birds, and yet we're blaming the migratory birds on infecting And if you go look at the data on where the birds are infecting, they're in the most biosecure facilities. It rarely does happen in some backyard flocks. It rarely happens in backyard flocks. It typically happens in CAFOs, the larger systems that have the best biosecurity you can imagine.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. I actually have some listeners that have said to me, yeah, when I say, hmm, that means that the wheels are turning. I'm trying to figure things out. Trent, we're going to continue the discussion. I'm talking with sixth-generation farmer and rancher Trent Luce about really important issues. affect our food sources. And we have taken for granted affordable and abundant food supplies when we go to the grocery store. And because of public policy, that is under attack. And so it's so important that we talk about this. And these discussions happen because of our sponsors. If you have been injured, you will want to reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are raising money. They take care of the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax. And they've got great plans for the remodel as well. You can find all those plans and everything by going to their website, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And while you're there, support them. And then also the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And they are nonpartisan, nonpolitical, focused on foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. They do that through their honoring of our Medal of Honor recipients, their education programs for K-12, helping educators, their on-value presentations. They're going to have one on Monday the 20th. So check all that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. Trent Luce, I got sidetracked and did not share the word of the day or the quote of the day. And so I need to do that quick like and that is our word of the day is potentate. It's P-O-T-E-N-T-A-T-E. It could be one who has the power and position to rule over others, a monarch. Number two, one who dominates or leads a group or an endeavor. And lastly, one who is potent, one who possesses great power or sway, a prince, a sovereign, or a monarch. So that is the word of the day. And our quote of the day, I was looking for perseverance quotes, and I found this one by Vincent Van Gogh. He said, for great things do not just happen by impulse, but are a succession of small things unfulfilled. linked together. And I can segue that into something that you say on a regular basis, and that is one person can make a difference. We need to start to communicate with our neighbors and our colleagues about these issues. People are showing up, and I'm starting to see some real progress as people are showing up. I went to a county commissioner meeting yesterday, and it was standing room only, and people are standing up and starting to make a difference. And so I'm The time is now to make that happen, Trent Luce.
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I'm going to play Kim Monson right now and be distracted, so we've got to work on our focus. But speaking of resilience, I just learned this this morning, so I'm going to share it. But on October 14th, so nearly today, former U.S. President, this was 1912, October 14th, 1912, former U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt was shot while giving a speech from the bully pulpit and talking about the bully moose, new third party that needs to come to play. While speaking, he said, and no bullet is going to stop me from saying what needs to be said after he'd been shot.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either, actually. I can't believe I did, but I did.
SPEAKER 14 :
And what do you mean I have focus challenges?
SPEAKER 09 :
You said you forgot the word of the day, the potentate word of the day. We've got to focus, Kim, because we're coming at a time of chaos. You've got to stay focused.
SPEAKER 14 :
True that. True that. Okay. So last thing that we want to make sure that we talk about, and that is our Save Our Bacon Act. So tell me about that.
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So I hear nobody talking about this, but it was proposed by a representative from the state of Iowa, Ashley Hinson. And it's a longer story than what we probably have time for now, but we've talked a lot about chickens in a cage. And you and I talked about that initially for quite some time. And in 2008, California passed Proposition 2, which was stating that chickens need more space in a cage. That led to a series of progressions to Proposition 12, which went into effect into law in two years ago, it'll be two years ago, so it would have been 2024, January 1, 2024, basically demanding that pork producers, anybody selling pork products into the state of California must meet California standards for housing, very similar to what they tried to do, what they did do with chickens, and create, I'm going to call it a free-range pig, even though that's a little farther than what they really went. It's caused some producers to do a massive amount of millions of dollars in renovation to try to comply with Prop 12. The National Pork Producers and the American Farm Bureau sued the state of California. They went to the Supreme Court, and it ruled in favor of California that California could do this. All that's the background. Now we have a bill that has been presented called Save Our Bacon. which is supposed to be part of a farm bill, which I don't have any faith in a farm bill coming, but the discussion is what I wanted to have, and I wanted your opinion. Basically, Save Our Bacon says that no state can enact a set of standards for the production of covered livestock, that's the term from the bill, that basically saying that Colorado cannot say that if you do not, let's just give it a close-up, close and personal look, You cannot sell beef products in the state of Colorado – again, this is hypothetical, trying to make an example of Save Our Bacon Act. You cannot sell beef products in Colorado unless it came from a grass-fed steer, unless it came from a grass-fed animal. There can be no corn. So I do not believe that we – This is from somebody in Iowa that did this? Correct. Okay. Please don't misunderstand what I said. It's about pork. It's not about beef. But I'm just using the scenario to explain how this could happen in Colorado. Okay. How it could happen in any state. So the question is, which do you feel is more important and constitutional? The Interstate Commerce Clause, which says that one state cannot enact unnecessary regulations to prevent commerce... Or do you believe that the state, any state, has the right to do what they want to do in terms of what they think their citizens are? Again, this all came about because the people of California voted for Proposition 12. So that long, whole, long story really comes down to, Kim Monson, do you believe that interstate commerce outweighs states' rights?
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Yes, I do. However, the Interstate Commerce Clause has been used to push very onerous policies. But in its constitutional text, yes, I do.
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I'm going to weigh in on states' rights because I think that any time we forfeit states' rights, we become federalized and we become the subject of a tyrannical government. But the other component of this particular bill, which is very troubling to me, and the reason I gave the history, is Proposition 12 started as a direct result of chickens needing more space in a cage, according to California voters. In this Save Our Bacon Act, it specifically eliminates egg production from the clause.
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Why?
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This was all about eggs to begin with. I just see this as a terrible precedent that it could give the federal government more ammunition to eliminate states' rights, which we've seen with CO2 pipelines, which we've seen with AI data centers, and now it's spilling over into food. Well, California is stupid for passing this, and it's going to increase food prices exponentially. they have a right to be stupid when it comes to states' rights.
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Okay, you pose an interesting comment, yes. And so Colorado, I'm going to have to think about this, Trent Lewis, because I, as you know, I really believe that rights are so important. Where I was thinking about, though, is where California had instituted these laws regulations regarding cars and trucks and diesel trucks which then that affects everybody else in the country so maybe that's different than than what the interstate commerce clause here and and now i know we're just about out of time what do you think i know but well and i wanted to do this i wanted to generate this as a discussion which can carry over
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But why does their desire to eliminate combustion engines affect other states? Because we let it. It doesn't have to. Let California do what they want. Now, pork producers are saying that 12% of all pork products are sold in the state of California. We don't want to lose that market. I say that if you starve them out, they will come around to your way of thinking given time, and they'll learn their lesson not to do something stupid. I'm going with states' rights, my primary cause.
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I'm going to have to noodle this around for the next week, and I've made notes so that I can be focused and ask you about these things next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
You remain focused and noodle on that and don't get going off on some bat crazy thing out of Colorado State or something.
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Well, there's so much that it is difficult for me to stay focused on exactly. I'm like, good Lord, please help me focus on what I'm supposed to be focusing on. We've got just about 30 seconds left. Really interesting conversation. Trent Luce, your final thought.
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I hope everybody's paying attention to what's happened in silver in the last four days. The silver market is going to be the driver that creates economic hardship. Check out the silver market.
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Okay, I haven't done that, so I'll have to do that. Always interesting. Trent Luce, have a great week. We'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Focus, Kim, focus.
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I will, and I'm going to focus on the quote for the end of the show. It's from Vincent Van Gogh. He said, What would life be if we had no courage to attempt anything? So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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through the mountains climbing twisting turning further from my home young like a new moon rising fierce through the rain and lightning And I don't want no one to cry. But tell them if I don't survive.
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Join host Rick Hughes on The Flatline as he delves into the timeless truths of biblical wisdom and how it can transform the Christian life. Discover the 10 problem-solving devices that empower believers to navigate their spiritual journey effectively and become trophies of God's grace. Through meaningful insights and personal anecdotes, Rick emphasizes the significance of mastering time and maintaining a personal relationship with the Almighty, transcending mere Sunday services to a profound daily walk with God.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. Thank you for sticking around. It'll be a few minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education, and absolutely nothing, no manipulations. I want to remind you that the Flatline is here to give you some biblical truths, introducing you to the Forward Line of Troops, F-L-O-T, Flatline, Forward Line of Troops. We're using a military analogy to describe how the Christian can live his life by learning 10 unique problem-solving devices. taught to me by my very own pastor years and years ago. This is nothing new. This is no sensational breakthrough, nothing that's something that's a miracle breakthrough. This is simply age-old biblical truths. And these 10 problem-solving devices include rebound, which is the filling of the Holy Spirit, faith rest drill, grace orientation, doctrinal orientation, personal sense of destiny, all of these things we've taught. Matter of fact, we have a book on this if you'd like to get it Just write to us and ask for the 10 Problem Solving Device booklet, and we'll be glad to send you the transcripts where we've taught all of this before. But without learning these 10 Problem Solving Devices, you're never going to be able to effectively live the victorious Christian life, and you're never going to be able to be a trophy for God's grace in the end. As Paul said, I'm now ready to be offered. He was a trophy. God wants you to be a trophy. I want you to be a trophy, but you have to do the right thing in the right way. You know, God said he's looking for people in Jeremiah that know him and understand him, and there are many people that know God, and there are many people that don't understand the God they know. So it's my prayer that by means of this radio show, I can give you some enlightenment, some encouragement, and some direction until you find your own well-qualified pastor that you can sit under, that you can grow under on a daily basis, not once a week or every Sunday morning, daily, every day. And there are people like that out there. That information is offered free, no charge ever from the people that we associate with. So I hope you're listening. I hope you're learning. And I hope you'll continue to stick with me. Pray for us as we minister to 112 cities across America. every Sunday morning. It's a step of faith on our part, and we appreciate your prayer support. Okay? Now, we started a study last week on aging, on the perils of old age, and we want to continue that a little bit this week, dealing with the perspective of time, the perspective of time. And sometimes, we get into studies like this that are not sensational, they're not political, We're not talking about the end of the country. We're not talking about what the Democrats are doing or what the Republicans are doing or what the devil's doing. We're talking about what you're doing and what God is doing. I hope this is interesting to you. I hope you will learn from this and apply this into your life because our perspective of time is very finite. In other words, it has limits, it has bounds. I mean, you know time is sun up, sun down, moon up, moon down. But that's not God's time. It's not God's perspective. I don't know if you think about this, but God invented time when he created the earth. He invented time. There are no clocks in heaven. God's not on a timetable. And we've heard that one day is like a thousand years in heaven. But we essentially are governed by time. We only live for a short time, and then we enter eternity. So we have a temporal life, temporal life, temporary life governed by time. And then we have eternal life, which is timeless. So once you move into eternity, there is no more time, no more sun up and sun down, no more time. But God is logical. This is what you have to remember about God. He's logical. He doesn't operate chronologically like we do. He invented time for us so that we can have something to live by, for us. In Ecclesiastes 31.8, the writer of Ecclesiastes says, to everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven. You've probably heard this before, but I'll run through it for you. There's a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which was planted. I know a lot of farmers that understand that and agree with that. And I know a lot of morticians that understand the first part and a lot of doctors who deliver babies that understand that. So here, listen to this one. Here's the military. A time to kill. A time to heal. A time to break down. A time to build up. A time to weep. A time to laugh. A time to mourn. A time to dance. There's a time to cast away stones and a time to gather stones together. A time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing. A time to get, a time to lose, a time to keep, a time to cast away, a time to rend, and a time to sow, and a time to keep silent, and a time to speak. I wish more people understood that and what it means to be a laconic believer. So Ecclesiastes 31, one through eight deals with time, God's invention of time for the temporal life that we live. How that applies to you and I is we must learn to master time. rather than letting time master us. We have to control time. If you don't, then you're not gonna have a relaxed life. You're gonna live under the fear panic ploy most of your life. You're gonna have anxiety and stress related to time because you're gonna fear what might happen today or what might happen tomorrow. So there is a way to overcome that. It's part of the problem-solving devices called the faith rest drill, standing on the promises of God. Over 7,000 promises in the Bible for you in time so that you can use them and not be afraid, not have anxiety, not worry. If you don't have a list of those, we have a book called Biblical Promises that we can send to you free. And there's a lot of promises in that book and you can read through it and claim, write them down, use them in your life every day. These are like money in the bank for you to keep your control, to keep control of your mental attitude. You know, when we get age conscious, that can be a very terrible prison for some people. You look at some people that are 60 and they look 90, You look at some people that are 90 and they look like they're 60, but being age conscious can be a terrible prison because if you get consumed by growing old, if you get consumed by your aging, you begin to be maladjusted to the creator of time. And if you're maladjusted, then you are frustrated and usually impatient. because it's not happening according to your time. You know, like the old military thing, hurry up and wait. God doesn't work on your time. When you pray and you want God to answer prayer tomorrow, the next day, today, maybe he doesn't, maybe he has a different timeframe. So you cannot get consumed by aging. You cannot get maladjusted to the creator of time. You cannot get frustrated and impatient in your life. Those are all things you can overcome by having a flat line in your soul, by having a personal sense of destiny, by having personal love for God, by having grace orientation. These are all part of the problem-solving devices. My own pastor that I learned so much under wrote a prayer about time, and I'm going to read it to you. This man's name was R.B. Thiem Jr., and this is what he said. We considered an honor and a privilege to spend time. This is a prayer he prayed, and I'm reading his prayer. We considered an honor and a privilege to spend time, in time, which you, God, personally have invented for our frame of reference. And we have the opportunity of receiving from you time. and then give it back to you as part of our worship. Therefore, in fulfillment of your word, we obey the mandates that command us to forsake not the assembling of ourselves together and to spend time learning the word of God, recognizing that you are the truth and the only way that we can adjust to you is by learning the truth. End of prayer. now here's a point i want you to remember how many times have you sat in church and looked at your watch and said when is that man going to shut up when is he going to finish we got to go to lunch there's a long line down at the restaurant don't they understand the pork chops will be gone time we get there if the service is a little long do you get impatient and do you get angry at the minister who's doing the speaking Here's a question I have to ask you. Whose time is it anyways? Your time? You invented it? You own it? Or is it God's time? So you are angry and impatient and frustrated because God is stealing some of your time by making you listen to the minister? You're a loser when you think like that, I can assure you. Cannot afford to get impatient. Here's what the Bible says in Psalm 90 verse 10. The days of our years are three score years and 10, that's 70. And if by reason of strength they be four score years, that's 80. And yet is there strength in labor and sorrow for it's soon cut off and we fly away. So the Bible's telling us here basically we're guaranteed to live about 70 years, maybe 80. But what we do is we orient to celebrating birthdays, we do. until we realize the ones in front of us are less than the ones behind us. Because now these birthdays begin to remind us of our vulnerabilities, isn't it? I mean, so at what point in time do you stop celebrating birthdays and begin to dread the birthdays? I was talking to a person the other day who's having their 50th birthday and they didn't want to talk about it. They didn't want to celebrate it, didn't want to bring it up. Don't even mention it that I'm 50 years old. And I said, well, you're half dead. You can think about it that way. So it's time. God gives us time, time to enjoy him, time to orient to him, time to glorify him. His viewpoint is timeless. timeless, eternal, outside the boundaries of time and space. So shall yours be soon enough. You know, we think about time, we look at a star, and when you see that star tonight, go outside and find a really bright star, and you say, oh, I'm looking at this star right now. No, you're not. You're looking at what happened millions of years ago. The light it takes to get to you sometimes takes a million years. It didn't happen just then. You're looking at something in time. So here's what you need to remember about time. My little saying about time is critical for you to write this down. Time does not shout. It just runs out sooner than you think. Time does not shout. It just runs out sooner than you think. Now, that's not original to me. I remember hearing someone say that, and I don't even remember who said it. But I remember what they said, time doesn't shout, it just runs out sooner than you think. Now God gives us all sorts of grace provisions for us to operate in time. Did you know that? He gives the provisions for your aging body. In Isaiah 40 verse 29, listen very carefully. He gives strength to the weary, and increases the power of the weak. Strength to the weary and increasing the power of the weak. This is what happens in old age. You don't have the energy that you had before. I was watching a show the other day and they were talking about some person had a high energy. But when you get to be 70 and 80, you don't have that high energy anymore. Most people don't. And you kind of get a little weak. You can't bench press 500 like you used to. So God can give you a different sort of power. The power that God gives to you, the strength that God gives to you is the mental attitude dynamics that goes with the spiritual life. And this is a divine grace provision. Divine grace provision. That's what God does for you. He gives you grace provision so that you can endure whatever is there. We have assets. We have availability. We have power and strength available to each of us. And the youth have no advantage over the aged. I can assure you of that. The power that God gives us may not be physical, but rather the dynamics of practical divine wisdom imparted in our soul. It gives us a historical impact in this client nation. We don't have to be able to bench press 500 pounds or run five miles to have an invisible impact as a member of the pivot of a client nation like the USA. Job talks about this. Listen to Job 12.12. Is not wisdom found among the aged? Does not long life bring understanding? It's supposed to. What that means is we have to be faithful to take advantage of whatever time God gives us. We can't blow it. We can't waste it. We can't not use it. Therefore, Ephesians 5, 15 says, walk circumspectly, not as a fool or an idiot, but as wise, redeeming the time since the days are evil. to learn to take advantage of the time, walk circumspectly, redeem the time. You can buy time by becoming a spiritually mature believer. I've always shown you that verse. The more you study, the more you grow. The more you grow, the more you glorify God. You can buy time. You can redeem the time because the days are evil. Listen to Isaiah 46.4. Even to your old age and to your gray hair, I am he who will sustain you. I made you. I will carry you. I will sustain you. I will rescue you. Write that promise down. Put that in your book every day and read that every day next time you go to the doctor's office, next time you take your pills. God will sustain us. It's not the medicine. It's not the doctor. It's God who sustains us and God who rescues us from the impossible situations that we face, even in old age, because there's no way to back it up. There's no way to put it in reverse. There's no way to say, whoa, wait a minute. I know I'm 70, but I want to back up to be 40 again. Sorry, it's not going to happen. And so how do you handle it? Well, we anticipate aging. We accept it. We accept the adversity that comes our way as part of getting old as an opportunity to exploit the grace provisions that God gave us. Ephesians 1, 7, and 8 says, "...in whom we have redemption..." Through his blood, that's the Lord Jesus Christ, the forgiveness of sin, according to the riches of his grace where bound, he hath abundantly given it to us in all wisdom and prudence. We have this grace provision. Riches of His grace. This is what's wonderful about the Word of God. It makes you rich, and most people don't understand this concept. Paul said we have this treasure in our earthly bodies. Treasure is the word, Greek word, thesaurus. The riches we're talking about is a word treasure in your soul, the living Word of God. The word of God is alive and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, piercing even to dividing asunder of the soul and the spirit and the joint and the marrow and is critic of thought and instance of the heart. The treasure is the living word of God in you. That is your grace provision for getting old and not looking at the bad part, but understanding the opportunity that's in front of you. Because the Lord determines our length or our stay in this sin-infected environment. He's in charge of that. Not you, not me. He's in charge of it. Listen to what the Lord Jesus Christ told Peter. This was a shock to the apostle Peter. And it was guaranteeing that he wasn't going to die young. So listen to what Jesus told him in John 21, 18. Truly I tell you, When you were younger, you dressed yourself. Mm-hmm. And you went where you wanted to go. Mm-hmm. But when you're old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go. Jesus, in verse 19 of John 21, said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, follow me. And Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. That's John. This is the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper table. And the Lord had, he said, who's going to betray you, Father? So when Peter saw him, he got a little upset. And this is what happened. Verse 21, Peter saw him and he said, Lord, what about him? What about John over there? Give him telling me I'm going to die. What about John? And Jesus answered, if I want him to remain alive until I come back, what business is that of yours? You follow me. In this context, our Lord just challenged Peter's motivation to serve him. This is the fourth appearance of our Lord in his resurrection form. First time he appeared to Mary in John 20, 14. Then he appeared to the disciples in John 20, 19. Then he appeared to the disciples again in John 20, 26. And the fourth appearance were to the disciples who were fishing in John 21, 1 through 22. So here's my principle that I think you'll get a little chuckle out of. When you get discouraged, go fishing. When you get discouraged, go fishing. When your wife gets mad at you, buy a new rod and reel. How's that? She may still be mad at you, but at least you got a new rod and reel. So when you get discouraged, go fishing. Where did I get that? Well, listen to John 21, two and three. Simon, Peter, Thomas, Nathaniel, the sons of Zebedee, James and John, and two other disciples were together. And Peter said, I'm gonna go fishing. And they said, okay, we're gonna go with you. And they went out and they got in the boat and they caught nothing. I want you to notice the omniscience of the Lord. Here's all these future apostles all night long in a boat catching nothing. discouraged, not knowing what to do, not knowing where Jesus was. He had appeared and left, appeared and left, appeared and left, and they don't know what's going on. And notice the omniscience of the Lord when he yelled out from the bank and said, you boys are fishing on the wrong side of the boat. Now, this was a supernatural grace provision for them because, number one, they needed food. And number two, they had to sell the excess for finances, which they desperately needed since they had not been working. They'd been following Jesus. They'd been in hiding. These were fishermen. They had to make a living. They had to feed their families, and they needed some money. And so Peter tells how many fish they caught, and they didn't eat all of that. They sold them and made some finances. But our Lord challenged Peter's motivation in this particular passage. He said, Peter, do you really love me more than your buddies or more than your buddies love me? And the Lord is questioning Peter about his motivation to serve him. See, he's going to be reinstated. He thought he was no longer a well-qualified disciple. He had denied the Lord. Jesus told him that was going to happen before the rooster would crow. He had denied him three times, and he did that, and it just devastated him that he did that because earlier he had declared he would lay down his life for Jesus in Matthew 13, 37. And so our Lord kept on asking him if he had personal love, virtue, motivation, personal love for God. Agapao is the Greek word. Do you agapao me? And Peter kept replying with phileo, the brotherly love, like Philadelphia. Yeah, I phileo you. That was the wrong thing. This virtue love motivation is the only thing that was going to sustain Peter during his earthly ministry into his later years. And it's the only thing that will sustain you. It's your personal love for God the Father. In 1 John 5, 3, it says, if you love me, you will obey me, and my mandates are not grievous. One of the questions I have to ask you is, do you truly love God more than you love yourself, more than you love your grandkids, more than you love your hobby? Do you love God? I see people all the time that claim to love God. A lot of people want God to finance their hobbies and finance their fun times. And I'll give him all the glory. I think about some of the fishing tournaments that I watch sometimes. And praise the Lord, I caught a big one. And it means I'm going to get a check. They're always happy about that. But do you truly love God? Do you put your priorities in front of your passions? Peter had to understand. He had to have a divine focus. He had to have maximum trust needed to endure the rigors of a life he's going to spend serving God. He's going to have to put self second. Remember, he said, the Lord said, you used to dress yourself, put your own socks on, put your own pants on, put your own shirt on when you wanted to and you went where you wanted to go, but later on, somebody else is going to have to dress you and lead you around. You just follow me. Anyone hearing this message today, you must be challenged in the same way because it's only personal love for the Father that gives you the motivation to live one day at a time and all of it for His glory. Losing occupation with Christ, which is a great problem-solving device, when you lose occupation with Christ, you essentially leave your first love. The writer of Revelation John wrote about that in John 2, 4, where he said the Lord spoke to the church at Ephesus and said, you've left your first love. You've lost your motivation. You've lost your priorities. Your church should understand that mandate, and you should understand it too. Don't get caught up in politics. Don't let your passions overtake your priorities. Turn your eyes upon Jesus. There's a great song about that, turn your eyes upon Jesus. Peter was told he was going to live well and live on to an old age. He was told that he would become infirm. He was told he would be vulnerable. but his mission was to continue until he died. It was never-ending mission until the ultimate opportunity to glorify God. Your ultimate opportunity to glorify God is the death of a mature believer, a trophy of God's grace. You want to be a trophy of God's grace when a time comes. It's this type of living and this type of dying that inspires devotion and appreciation and trust in God's loving care and concern by those who see it. So you and I have the same charge Peter had. Follow me. Follow me. Who are you following today? That's the question I want to ask you. Who are you following today? If you're going to follow the Lord Jesus Christ, there's a plan. There's a purpose. There's a time and there's an ending. You must understand this. If you're going to serve the Lord Jesus Christ, you have to serve him effectively. There's the protocol plan of God. The right thing must be done in the right way. Just because you run around and say, hey, praise the Lord, sweet Jesus, that doesn't mean you're following Jesus. Following the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Let me remind you of something first of all. He's the bright and morning star. We want to say, hey Jesus, hey Jesus. It is the Lord Jesus Christ we're talking about. The anointed Son of God. I don't think we should ever approach him on a first-name basis. I believe we need to recognize who he is and what he is and humbly bow ourself before him and say, Heavenly Father, I'm willing to follow your anointed Son, my Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. If you are, then you're going to grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, just like Peter told you to do. You're going to advance in the protocol plan of God, and you're going to be a trophy for God's grace. You arrive in heaven and you will hear, well done. Great job. Well done, my good and my faithful servant. So I hope you're listening. I hope you're learning. And I hope you'll apply this into your life. Until next week, I'm your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush is joined by a panel of guests to dive deep into political discourse, both at home and abroad. The conversation opens with an exploration of significant geopolitical negotiations involving Hamas and the challenges of trust in international relations. As the debate heats up, the focus shifts to the pressing issues closer to home, examining the burgeoning crime rates and the crucial role of law enforcement in Colorado's political arena. Throughout, the discussion stays grounded in the principle of individual choice and liberty.
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All right, Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, Ben in Evergreen. Thanks for hanging on. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Hey, guys, I had three points.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, go for it, Ben.
SPEAKER 09 :
And one is, you know, on this Hamas thing, I don't think I'd take their word for it. This 20-phase... They haven't even fulfilled number one yet. They can't give back a bunch of dead bodies. It's like, hey, they ought to be able to get that done. You know, send in some coffins and, you know, take care of it. The second thing is, as much as I love Trump, I don't know if it was such a good deal handing back a couple of thousand of these, you know, Hamas people, a couple hundred of which were... They were doing life sentences. They probably committed a murder or some kind of war crime. And then third, you know, I think Trump deserves that Nobel Peace Prize. But then again, that other woman with Venezuela that got it, you know, take some courage. She's probably got a price on her head. Probably.
SPEAKER 17 :
And to her credit said, hey, this really deserves to go to Trump.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, she's great too. To her credit. But I mean, but what Trump achieved, of course, was historic. And, you know, really quick, Ben, if I may, on the 2,000 people, there were a few who I would not have given back either. So I partially agree with you. But let's keep in mind, with the rest of that 2,000 Hamas, you know, internees or whatever you want to call them, prisoners, you have only three choices, okay? You either return them or you kill them. Or you house feed, clothe, and guard them forever at Jewish taxpayer expense. I like number two. Oh, no, no. I like two, too. But you've got to keep in mind, two doesn't sell too well because Israel is about to get some wonderful agreements throughout the Middle East because of this peace plan. This is going to lead to more Abraham Accords. The big part of the peace plan is the fact that so many of these other countries were bought in. This is going to pay off huge for Israel. That's why they did it.
SPEAKER 09 :
I pray that it does. It will. Whenever I argue like this, I want to be proven wrong. I want to hear it be so good. that somebody can say, see, it all worked out, and it worked out great. That's really what I want. I think that will happen here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really quick here, and John, just give me one more. Really quick, you led off with that you don't trust Hamas. Let me tell you something. I agree. I don't trust Hamas. What I do trust is the gun to their head. You see, if Hamas does not fulfill this, and I understand with the dead bodies, it takes longer to round them up and so forth. I really cared more about the living, and they got them right away. But... If Hamas does not fulfill this, they're going to get overrun. They were on the edge of extinction, and so that is why they made the deal they did. That's why Israel made the deal with Hamas, because at least they still had a government to deal with.
SPEAKER 17 :
And to prove that, Ben, this is why Hamas is still going after those that oppose them inside of their own borders.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. If Hamas told me the sky was blue, I would go outside with a color chart, And I'd want three independent opinions. Agreed.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and again, like I said, this is why, I mean, to prove Andy's point, Ben, that's why Hamas is doing what it's doing right now, killing inside of its own borders.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, really, that's what they're doing, and that's why.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the beauty of this deal is you don't have to trust Hamas. That's the beauty of it. You trust the gun to their head.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Shifting gears, Ben, going back to what Andy and I were talking about with the gubernatorial race we have in Colorado, I mean, what are your thoughts on the candidates? There's plenty of them, almost 20. In fact, I think it is 20. Your thoughts on what Andy and I were talking about on who it's going to take to actually win on our side. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I don't know enough about the candidates to give any kind of a... I know more about... And I'm not asking for a particular candidate.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm asking, do you agree with Andy and I talking about who it needs to be, the vibrancy of who they need to attract, and so on?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, in my opinion, it has, at the very least, got to be a moderate Republican candidate who has fiscal responsibility... conservative values and law and order as their go-tos and if they don't have that i say even get them out i don't care if they look so good on paper that they're number one you know there's there's deeds and there's words hold their feet to the fire everybody or you know every the governor and and the state that they run. Hold their feet to the fire. If it were up to me, like I'm at the park, we're going to be doing a barbecue with some friends. When I say hold their feet to the fire, if it were up to me, I mean, that charcoal grill gets pretty warm. I'd be like, fellas, are you really going to get this done? Because if you aren't, we want a recall. We want trials for where you've broken the public trust. We We want it done and done right in this state. I'm not too worried about what any other state does. This is what I want. You know, my family, we were pioneers. As far as I'm concerned, this is my state, not the Democrats. That's what I want. And if they can't handle that and they don't like it, well, that's too bad. I don't want to see homeless. I don't want to see drugs. I don't want to see high crime. And I don't want to see low punishment if you don't hold people accountable. the government and the governed that are breaking laws, what do you got? You're on the road to Venezuela or Cuba. It's just stupid. And they know this. Polis knows this. The other people know it. I'm starting to get into a rant. No, no, no.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, let me run with this for a second. John, I think Ben makes an incredible point with law and order. I think that that is something that really, really sells right now for the right. Colorado has largely become lawless, especially in Denver, Boulder, and even some of the other places like the Springs and Fort Collins. Can't argue that. And a lot of people are sick of it. They are saying, we lead the nation, don't we? We're first or second in car thefts per 1,000. Yeah, crime is through the roof. I think people, look, I guess what I'm saying is this, and I'll ask Ben this. Ben, I think our side, to a degree, needs to run a cop and say, we don't just need a governor. We need a head cop. We need somebody who says the law will be enforced here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Give me somebody like that guy, Brady Judd. You've probably seen him on the Internet. No, but I believe him. Check out Brady Judd. He's like, I don't know, he's in Florida or something. And he said, I saw one thing where he said, if somebody's breaking into your house, we prefer that you shoot them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, that's the sheriff. That's the one sheriff. Yes, I follow him. I know who you're talking about.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, not that I want to, I don't want to live next door to him. I don't want to visit him in the office. But you need something like that to get crime underhand. You know, maybe one or two terms, and then get somebody out like whatever. The old, what was his name, Kennedy that ran Denver? There was a couple of them. Machad, he seemed like a good guy. And I think the old, my sense is, I don't have the facts, but the old Denver Guard police force, We're a bunch of pretty good law and order guys. Overall, this is going back like 20 years or more.
SPEAKER 04 :
Ben, it sounds to me like you want somebody who comes across as Tom Homan. No nonsense. We're going to do it. We're going to enforce the law because the people deserve it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, we're going to get things cleaned up regardless.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and really, it's probably only... maybe 10% of the population, but it grows. Pretty soon that's 12%, and then 14%, and then 19%. And then you've got some like Venezuela, which inadvertently or otherwise is really the road to ruin. If you want that, if the electorate is stupid enough to do that on an ongoing basis, we're going to get more of what we've got, but worse. It is just untenable. It's unacceptable. And so we got to make some changes in that in those areas for the governor. And the municipalities. I'm not letting them off the hook.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Whether it's Lakewood or Wheat Ridge or Aurora.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Can't argue that. All of them. Absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. If you want to drop crime, you do things to drop crime. Absolutely. If you want to increase crime, you do what we've got now. Yeah, if it were up to me, it's like Tom Holman. Hey, you got a few months? Can we help us clean up Colorado? Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I'd love that.
SPEAKER 09 :
If Tom Holman's listening, call him.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, there you go. Call him. We'll put him to work. Ben, I've got to run to break. No, appreciate it very much. Thank you. We'll talk more about that as soon as we come back. Fleshlock coming up next. Speaking of legal and all the things involved with that, give Kevin a call today if you need any legal advice at all, 303-806-8886.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, Andy, let's talk about, because we were doing this during the break a little bit, but let's talk about no names attached, but the candidate that, if there's going to be any chance at all of winning against the Democrats next November, 2026, You know, what do they need to be focused on in their campaign? What do they need to be talking about? What areas, by the way, should they avoid? Honestly, at all costs. And sometimes it gets they get drug into it because that's what the other side knows they can do. So, you know, what are some of these things that, you know, let's focus on? First of all, let's go backwards. Let's talk about in reverse. Let's talk about what are those things they should never go down the path of? What are things they shouldn't just, you know, if at all, you know, they can't avoid all things at all times. So some things are just going to get thrown at them. But in general, what are the things that they shouldn't talk about?
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, well, first, can I give one overriding theme?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, because the very first thing you have to do is undercut the main Democrat message about the Republican Party. They tell people, Republicans want to tell you how to live your life. So the very first thing, your overriding message has to be the opposite of that. You live your life. Look, you've just had all these years of polis. Everything he wanted, he forced on you. I'm going to make it very clear. If you're law-abiding, I don't want to control your life. I want government to stop controlling your life. Now, if you're a lawbreaker, I want to control your life. I want to get you off the streets, get you away from all these wonderful law-abiding people.
SPEAKER 17 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, perfect.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, getting to the things that you don't want to go down, okay? Abortion.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. Thank you. That was my number one.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, you can't run from it.
SPEAKER 17 :
As much as you and I are 100% pro-life, yes, that's a big one, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. You can't run from it. So how do you handle abortion? It's very simple. You say... Guys, as the governor, I want to serve the people of Colorado, not control the people of Colorado. The people of Colorado overall do not want abortion stopped. However, they also don't want abortion paid for. by taxpayers. They don't want people who are pro-life forced to pay for an abortion. They don't want late-term abortions.
SPEAKER 17 :
I was just going to say, you could also add into that that a substantial amount of Colorado voters don't want late-term abortions either.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. You could say, look, I am, as your governor, when it comes to abortion, I'm here to serve the people of Colorado, not control them, not make my personal views into your laws. You've already had enough years of that with the governor and the legislature here. They took their personal views and forced them on everybody.
SPEAKER 17 :
And you pivot and move on.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And I would say, what do most people in Colorado agree on? Oh, that's simple. They want they want the right to an abortion. OK, but they do not want it funded by the taxpayers and they do not want it in late term. That's it. OK, but they do want it made available. There you go. That's what the market wants. I'm here to serve the market. Next question. And then you just move on to the next thing.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
and take that off the table immediately.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm not sure that, frankly, and I'm going to say this as plainly as I can, I don't think out of all the candidates currently, and I don't know Victor Marks that well, there's not a single candidate I think can do that very well except for maybe Mark Baisley, as far as what you just said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Mark can do what you just said very well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, he can.
SPEAKER 17 :
That part he's very good at.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I think Barb could actually probably do that, but Mark would do it better.
SPEAKER 17 :
Mark would do it more eloquently.
SPEAKER 04 :
He would. And then you've got to look at the gay question. Why do you have to look at that? Because our party for two years was run by somebody who told us to burn pride flags.
SPEAKER 17 :
You've got to address it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Burning other people's property. What I would say is this.
SPEAKER 17 :
You don't have to focus on it, but you address it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
In fact, I think you openly even say something along those lines, Andy. Hey, the past previous chair of the Colorado Republican Party wanted you to burn your pride flags. I'm not that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
The reason I wouldn't do that is because I don't want to openly alienate his followers. You're going to do that anyways. No. I don't want to openly do it.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're doing that anyways. They're not going to vote for you anyways, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I understand, but here's what I would say.
SPEAKER 17 :
Or your guy, I mean.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would say to somebody who brings, you know, first of all, you don't bring it up, but when the reporters do, because they want to give you the gotcha.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, they're even going to say something along the lines of what I just said. Your last chair, your previous chair said we should just burn all flags, all pride flags. How do you respond to that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Why would I want to burn other people's property? That's what I would say. That's called a crime.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, that's what I would say.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I think you should be able to have whatever flag you want. My flag is the American flag. I'm very proud of it. And as for people being gay, that's your life choice. I'd make mine and live your life.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. Have fun. Yeah. You do you. I'll do me.
SPEAKER 04 :
You do... You just got to where I was going. The three words we must learn to say with our candidate and our entire movement are you do you. And people say, what do you mean by that? Guys, you do you. You do you. Why? Because that's called self-governance. That's what the founding fathers put forward in our country. They didn't say we're going to take one belief system and enforce it for all time. They said you do you. But do you believe in you do you if you want everybody else to pay for it? No. Okay, you do you. You make your choices. You have the rewards and consequences of your choices. Live your life.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you want to be a car thief, guess what? You're going to jail.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you want to be a car thief? You're breaking the law. You're going to jail. Up until now, you don't. Okay, you do you. If you want to, well, I want to be gay and be married. How does that affect my life?
SPEAKER 17 :
It doesn't, so go for it.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's what I'm saying to the reporter. Okay, let's say two people want to be gay. They're gay and they want to be married. How does that affect my life? Does that mean I can't be married to my wife? Well, no. And what's the problem? You do you. You see, the problem with Jared Polis is he didn't believe in you do you.
SPEAKER 17 :
You see, you wanted... He wants it to be you do what I want you to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you do what I want you to do. Okay? He wants his agenda preached in the public schools.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, you selfish bastard.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, he wants you to put a mask on when it doesn't help you, selfish bastard. In the middle of COVID, he wanted to take businesses that wanted to stay open. They wanted to serve their customers, and he said no. And he shut them down, and when they opened up, he said you can only have half the seating, which won't pay the bills. And he ran a ton of good restaurants out of business. He didn't believe in you, do you? You know what I would have said? That is between the restaurant and their customers.
SPEAKER 17 :
If somebody wants to come in and eat, go for it. If not, that's fine, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
You want to come in and eat? You take your risks. You want to wear a mask?
SPEAKER 17 :
Fine, if you don't. At the end of the day, you do you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you do you. You do you. That's what I believe in. We've just had, how many years was he in place? Eight years? Okay, we've just had eight years of you do you being thrown out. I want to bring it back.
SPEAKER 17 :
Seven, anyway, so this next year will be the eighth.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's going to be eight years. Okay, we've been going through eight years of you-do-you being thrown out the door. I want to bring it back. You-do-you. I'm not going to take, you know what my personal beliefs are? I'm a right-wing evangelical Christian. Do you think I'm going to have that forced on your kids in the public schools? No, I am not. You know why? Because I believe your child's success should be the only agenda in schools. Darren Polis didn't believe that. He believed that his agenda should be part of your curriculum for your kids. I say you do you. You decide what your kids are taught. You decide what their values are. You decide, I don't want to be their parent. You are. And you see, this is how our candidate should sell it. And people say, well, you know, but that's not right wing enough. Oh, yes, it is.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, how is it not? Furthermore, if it's any farther right wing, you're not elected.
SPEAKER 04 :
No.
SPEAKER 17 :
So what difference does it make?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Here's another one. You do you. When you drive in your car. Do you want more lanes or less?
SPEAKER 17 :
More.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you want potholes fixed or no?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, guess what? Your taxes are paying for more lanes and potholes and potholes fixed. How come we still have this many potholes and not enough lanes when you're paying your money for that? And let me tell you something. I don't care if that voter is 22 or 82. They're going to listen to that and say, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think the other thing you could squeeze... You do you.
SPEAKER 04 :
I want you to have enough lanes to drive on the road, you know, without... This is ridiculous. It looks like rush hour right now at 2 in the afternoon. That's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think the other thing you could weave into this, and I think, again, Governor... doesn't set policy but you can direct a lot and one thing i would try to run on would be listen the other thing i want to see accomplished and i know that i'm not in charge of this the way that you know legislatively things work is you know i can ask for some things that i would like to see put through uh you know the state house but at the end of the day it's up to our legislatures to make this thing happen but at the end of the day i would like to see us somehow get to a point where we can cap property taxes i would run on that by the way because by the way that one resonates with everybody sure
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
I want to put a cap on them. Guys, I know they've been run away. I know we've tried to fix this. The reality is the fixes have been weak at best. They haven't fixed anything. At the end of the day, I want to see some reprieve here. We'll figure out how to get schools funded and do all the rest of the things, which, oh, by the way, I probably should make a note of this, that attendance is down. It's not working. We don't have as many kids attending school anyway, so the reality is their budgets don't need to be increasing with property taxes like they've been. Let's cap them and help every one of you that are citizens here in the great state of Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. You've got to package it so it's not in the weeds for them, but yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
And that one's not hard to do, by the way. And that one speaks to everybody.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, and you know, you got to stick with your theme, right? And you can do that. You can't do you if your property taxes keep going up and up and robbing your, if your wallet's empty, you can't do you.
SPEAKER 17 :
You may not even be in Colorado if we don't fix this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
You might be exiting and going someplace else. We'd rather have you here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. You know, why did so many people move to Florida? Because you can do you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Why? You got more money in your pocket. You got more jobs. You got more freedom. It's the free state of Florida, as I always call it. You do you. The free state of Florida is booming with people. They've got a problem with too many people coming in too quick. Right. Okay. It's so free. I want that here again. I want you to do you. You do you. You know, we don't need Karens next. You don't need a Karen next door telling you how to live your life. And you don't need one in the Capitol in the Capitol building doing the same thing. Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody asked really quick, too, before Andy, you continue. Do we see any chance of school choice in Colorado's future where a parent can take the tax money where they want? Not until we get some of what we're talking about with Andy done, no. I don't see that happening until you get a shift in leadership in Colorado to really help people understand the you-do-you thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're not going to get that done until you get that done.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. You first have to get a big vision through to people, a vision of freedom that they don't understand. Because right now, the people in Colorado, they don't understand freedom, period.
SPEAKER 17 :
They don't vote freedom. You've got to instruct them on this.
SPEAKER 04 :
They vote against freedom. You have to show them the beauty of you do you. Let me give just one more quick example, and we'll go to Dan. Plastic bags at the supermarket. You can just say, look... If you want to use plastic bags at the store, whether or not to charge you, that's between you and the store. What's government getting involved? How come every activist at the state capitol gets to force you to live their activism? That should be your choice. I want you to choose.
SPEAKER 17 :
Not somebody else's.
SPEAKER 04 :
You choose your own activism.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dan, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
So two things. Property tax. So my cousin passed away. He had property in South Dakota. I talked to the attorneys today. She said if we went off the tax value, it would be less than if we do an actual assessment. So in South Dakota, they've got it. I don't know how they're doing it. In Gilpin County, I had to refinance my house due to termination of a marriage. And so the valuation of the house It was $575,000 when I got my tax bill this spring. So basically, I sold the house and bought the house. They assessed my value of my house at $781,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which is $200,000 difference. And I sold the house. So I don't know how they came up with it. I don't know how they're doing their assessments. But that's also broken. If we can't put a cap on real estate taxes, we need to... fix how they assess properties, because it is out of whack.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's a hot-button topic.
SPEAKER 17 :
That one's huge. Yeah, it is, because it affects everybody.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, we're talking, now it's the assessed value, that isn't, you know, and then there's the mill levy and all that that I pay taxes on, but a $200,000 difference when the house was sold, and it's public record of what it was sold for. You know, or what the valuation was of the house. The second thing about Florida... is a family member of mine actually moved down to Florida. So my son did. But the reason why, he's got a little bigger apartment, and it's $500 less a month for him to do for the apartment. And the reason why he moved down there is he is an electrical engineer. He got a job with a NASA contractor building on the – the launch platform or the launch pad for the rocket that can ascend up to the moon here in the next, what, year or so. So not only that, there's more industry down in Florida or high-paying jobs in Florida, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, it's booming.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's absolutely booming. And so the thing that, you know, Polis talks about how, well, look, our economy's fine because he won't acknowledge that it's Tabor that's keeping... the state of Colorado, the blue state, from being like all these other blue states.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
If it wasn't for Tabor, we'd be like California and New York and New Jersey and places like that because we're putting a cap and a restriction on what government can spend. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, and once again, Dan, that's another you do you. You see, I want you to do you. I want you to be able to vote on whether or not your taxes go up. They don't want you to have that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. And Tabor allows you to vote on it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Right. And they don't like it because they can't control and they can't raise money for their pet projects or their activism, as you say.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and I would, Dan and Andy both, I mean, I think one of the things I would do along these lines, whoever the candidate is, and as we get further down the road, I would also publicly say, listen, we have a spending problem. Colorado we don't have a revenue problem you heard this last go-around about having to cut this and cut that and the reality is you know we did a lot of things that affected small business and even big business and the reality is that's not the answer the key to Colorado is we have a spending problem we don't have a revenue problem we got to get things in check and I'm here to help fix that yep that would work so and that would that would cross
SPEAKER 07 :
The aisle, too, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, that one would. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Some hardcore lefties want to keep spending more because they know that's how things work. But no, you would be speaking to a lot of people, Dan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, you look at the voters and say, guys, you've been given plenty of money to the government. They've been spending too much. You don't have the problem. They do.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I would even go as far, Dan, even as a candidate, I would be right now having some aides or somebody, you know, AI, whatever, pouring through some of the budgetary things saying, okay, we could slash this, we could slash that. We're spending too much here, too much there. Believe me, Dan, there is a ton of ways that you could figure out. In fact, you could get some of your Republican counterparts down at the Statehouse and say, okay, what things went through last year that you darn good and well were a waste of money? Let me put those on the campaign trail.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
Done deal.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you tell me, what does government do more efficiently than private industry?
SPEAKER 17 :
Nothing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Spend money. Well, yeah. They're very efficient at that. Sorry, I stand corrected. Good answer.
SPEAKER 07 :
So anyway, I'm going to lose you.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, you're good, Dan. Appreciate you very much. And yes, I stand corrected. He's exactly right. Bill, you're next. Go ahead, Bill.
SPEAKER 06 :
There's going to be a governor's forum, and most of the candidates are going to be at Res Church on Saturday at 6 p.m.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that Loveland?
SPEAKER 06 :
In Loveland. Yeah. Okay. I remember, Rez.
SPEAKER 17 :
Saturday, 6 p.m. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and most of the candidates have already pledged to be there.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, that's good. And my write-on, I haven't looked lately. Is it 19 or 20, Bill? What is the number?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think 19.
SPEAKER 1 :
19.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so I wasn't far off.
SPEAKER 04 :
How do you even get a feel for when it's that many?
SPEAKER 1 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, really.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, even in a forum like that, that gets tough because you're going to have, you know, each one's not going to have very much time to speak because there's so many of them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. It's going to have to be quick. That's the downside.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, you're going to have to have one-sentence answers. You know, give me a one-sentence answer for X. There you go. That's how I would stage it.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that's going to be hard to make a decision on one sentence.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and by the way, this will show you who's sharp on the campaign trail and who's not, Bill.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that's true.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's what that would show. That's true. Thank you. I didn't know that. Thank you. We'll keep pushing that out there. And that's this Saturday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yep, and rez over by the fairgrounds, kind of.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, perfect.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right off I-25.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome. That's perfect, Bill. Thank you for that. I did not know that. I appreciate that very much. Okay, you bet. Take care. Thank you very much. Lynn, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, hello? Hello, Lynn. Yes, I hate to break your bubble. I've been listening to you guys for the past 20, 30 minutes, but the acumen is they did it. I mean, the Democrats have taken over this state. There was a caller on earlier that said we're going to be like California, New York. We already are. The state has been taken over by people that have relocated here from America.
SPEAKER 17 :
liberal states because they didn't like what was going on there and they come here and vote for the same type of people they do that but here's the thing landon i i don't i'm not arguing with your premise you're correct in what you're saying the problem is when you come out with that message you're going to alienate all the people that you just talked about that you now need to vote for you yeah you're trying to win without you're trying to win with blame now you're not going to blame your way into the hearts of um the unaffiliated voters You're correct. Even though you're totally true. I'm not arguing with you. You're 100% correct, but you can't have that as a campaign message.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'm telling you, they're not going to vote for a Republican.
SPEAKER 17 :
If Jesus was running on the... Well, in this particular case, Len, in this case, for once, when you've got a guy like Michael Bennett, who most likely will be your candidate, who, by the way, is an extremely, extremely weak candidate, and he's been really lock, stock, and barrel with a lot of the things that affected negatively the entire country, because you go through his voting record and prove those things... If there's a time that you might have a chance of actually getting a Republican voted in, it's now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'm being optimistic because you have the right candidate, which is what we've been talking about.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you don't have the right candidate running against Bennett, it's all over. But I do believe, and the polling, by the way, shows this, Lynn. There is polling out there, and there's several different things that have happened here of late that are telling the Democrats, listen, there is an open door right now. It's not a huge door, but there is an open door right now for Republicans to take back over the governorship in Colorado because of the two candidates they're running right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Republicans closed the gap on Democrats in voter registration by 3,000 just in the last month here in Colorado. Now we're still woefully behind.
SPEAKER 17 :
But Lynn, I'm not saying it's a huge chance, but this is the one election where there is a slim chance if we run the right candidate that you could potentially win.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they have the money, and they get outside money on here, and I don't know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, really quick, Lynn, and this is something to remember as well. With the right candidate running in Colorado, the same thing could happen to us. The problem in the past is we haven't had that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Republicans like to play Russian roulette with six rounds.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 08 :
They don't get it.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
They don't get it.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. And then... So where are you going to change it?
SPEAKER 17 :
By the way, what you're talking about right now is one of the things Andy and I have been focused on for a while now. We have got to get the party to be lock, stock, and barrel moving forward and be unified. Right now, we've got a faction of the party that's really in control of the party that are run by complete knuckleheads, Lynn.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's why they never go to win, because they're not united. They can't see the forest because of the trees. They just...
SPEAKER 17 :
Not arguing that. Not arguing that. Well. No. You're not wrong.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, when the big guys are seeing the food gas and the Constantine and raise the wire. Hey, you're pretty well toast.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Nope, can't argue that. Len, I appreciate it. Thank you. No, thank you for the phone call. Yeah, I'm not arguing with Len. He's not wrong. The motto, though, as you said, Andy, you can't use a negative quote-unquote theme or cliche. They did this. He's not wrong. He's right in what he's saying, but you can't use that.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, what I would have, that would be, and by the way, he's not wrong. He's absolutely correct, but you don't have that as your leading message. You have that as your backup. As a follow-up. Yeah, you lead with the positive.
SPEAKER 17 :
You do you because they did this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Well, yeah, but what I mean is, yeah, you do you. I want, because people are going to say, what are you for? I don't just want to hear what you're against. I know you're against them. One way the Democrats have hurt themselves is making their entire party about being against Trump.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, and it's really turned them into nothing but a protest. And on top of that, I'm serious.
SPEAKER 17 :
On top of that, Andy, being against, you know, solid family values, being against, you know, or being for women and men and women's sports and things along those lines. Those are things that have really hurt them on a national and I think even a local basis.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And so when you come to people first, you lead the way with your positive message. You do you. I want you to do you. I want you to be you. And I want to take away all the impediments. And this is getting to what Len was saying. I want to take away all the impediments to you being you and all the things that have been holding you back. They did that.
SPEAKER 17 :
So when we come back, what I want to talk about is, to his point, okay, how do we get these 25-plus individuals that are really the rhinos of the party, what do we do about them, Andy?
SPEAKER 03 :
What do we do with the rhino watchers?
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, John, I'm going to throw the question to you first. What do we do with the Rhino Watchers? I mean, seriously. Everything they're doing is to divide. Now, they will say that the other side is dividing. Fine. Okay, fine. Whatever. But the bottom line is this. They sell rage, and rage will not sell outside the base. What do we do with them?
SPEAKER 17 :
Man, and by the way, that's a great question, one that I have to really, you know, think through heavily, Andy, because, I mean, I wish it would be as simple as I would buy him each a one-way ticket out of here. But, of course, that's not going to fly. I'd love to do that. But I think in all practicality.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think what really has to happen is we have to continue to do what you and I are doing here on a weekly basis and really talk to, because I know there's a lot of quote unquote supporters of them that listen. And I think we have to continue to speak rationally to these individuals and let them know that, wait a minute, you know, your entire future and what may be a real possibility of actually winning in Colorado is really being negatively affected by these folks that you're following. And it is in a really sincere way. You're following the wrong crowd. You really have to think through this because if you continue down the path that you're going, there's not a snowball's chance we can win anything. Back to Len's point a moment ago, unless we become more unified, there's no way we're going to win. And going down the path and following these, you know, 20 or 25 people that are actually the real rhinos of... the party, if you continue to follow them, we don't have a chance of winning most elections, for sure not the Republican. Keep in mind, we've also got a senatorial race that'll be coming up as well. So it's not just the Republican. And we've got a lot of House of Representatives that are going to have to rewind, the Gabe Evans and so on of the world. So we've got more than just a governorship that we've got to worry about in this next election. So there's several things that we need to really focus on. And following the knucklehead rhino watchers that are out there is going to do nothing but tear this party apart. So somehow, someway, we've got to hopefully talk to the non-25 and not have them follow the 25, and hopefully that's enough to get rid of the 25.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, how about when we talk to the general rhino watcher, not the rhino watch leaders. They're not going to listen. They're not listening to us. They only care about power and money.
SPEAKER 17 :
They're knuckleheads.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, I mean, seriously.
SPEAKER 17 :
They're grifters. They are. You're exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
But all their followers.
SPEAKER 17 :
Money-hungry grifters.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And I've already, by the way, made the offer to a few of them. I want to get together, have lunch, and talk about this. And when we do, I'm going to ask them very simply this. What is your goal? What do you want? Okay, what do you want for Colorado? Forget the Republican Party. What do you want for Colorado? And they're going to say, well, I want these conservative values and I want them to prevail and win. Okay, great. Guess what? I want the same thing. So first, let's at least agree that we want the same things in general. Do you want men out of women's sports? Do you want law and order? Do you want the homeless off the streets and put in facilities? Do you want... There are so many things, right? Do you want ICE to be able to come here and take away those who are threats to our neighborhoods? Do you want, do you want, do you want? Okay. We want all the same things. Here's my question. What is your plan to win voters outside our base to do that? Okay. Because our base is 20% of the state. All right. So what is your plan to win voters outside our base to do that?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, you know what they're going to come back and say is, oh, we've got to run solid principled candidates.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's fine.
SPEAKER 17 :
Otherwise, we're not going to win anything, Andy. That's what they're going to come back and say.
SPEAKER 04 :
And my answer to that is very simple. OK, so what you're saying is no pale pastels. Right. You want bright colors. You want to show how different we are from the Democrats. You want to show a clear difference between us and them to offer a clear choice to the voter. Right.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And I would say, great. Here's all I ask. Put the customer first when you do that. Okay. When you are selling all of our principles, that's great. Put the customer first. Can we do that together? In other words, put the customer's needs first, because here's what we want to do. Okay, we want to, and I always say this, we should be selling liberty. We don't. We want to demand our liberty, not sell it for them. You see, I'm having my guns taken away. I want to demand them back. I'm having my free speech taken away. I want to demand it back. Like you were saying with taxes. Okay, property taxes. I want to demand, demand, demand, demand, demand. And guess what? I am right on all my demands. These things really are being taken away from me.
SPEAKER 17 :
The problem with them, though, Andy, is— But people will not listen to that. Well, and the problem with the rhino watchers of the world is, A, they don't understand the customer because they think they are. Well, honestly, I think the core that are running it know exactly what you and I are talking about but don't care. Okay. Because at the end of the day, they know that if you do it my way and your way, they don't have the same power they have today. That's the problem with them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. What they're going to say is, hey, I am a customer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. My answer to that is, you're right. How many customers are you?
SPEAKER 17 :
One.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. How many voters are there in Colorado? How many do we need to win?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, there is roughly what? you let's see voter wise what is there one two two and a half million or so or am i low ish no half million ish you're low it's so three million yeah it's much higher uh so about three and a half million three and a half okay okay and roughly what do we have like maybe it's only three but i thought it was three and I'd have to double check. It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, bottom line. Regardless, there's millions. Bottom line is you're only one voter. I agree with you. You're one of the customers, but you're only one customer. And my question is this. How are you going to win enough customers? And you need, I believe in what you're saying. I want to sell the same things you do, but I want to sell them in a way that puts the customer first, not my demands first. Puts their wants first, not my demands first. And we can do that, and we can do it together. OK, that is what I want to do. We need to go to the customers in Colorado and tell them why liberty is good for them. Not why I want my liberties back. When they hear that, they hear anger and rage that repels them. OK, they need to hear not how I'm pure and they're not. And they need to be more pure. but rather how purity can be good for them. Isn't it great to get men out of a girl's locker room?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. By the way, 3.19 million voters in 2024. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
So we were close.
SPEAKER 1 :
3.19.
SPEAKER 17 :
Three, three and a half. So 1-1-1, roughly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it's not quite that, but it's close.
SPEAKER 04 :
But you see, 3.19 million is a lot more than one.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. You're one voter. How are you going to win them?
SPEAKER 17 :
The number I just threw out, I'm not sure if I would even ask the rhino watchers of the world how many voters are there in Colorado. I don't think they could even come up with that number or even be as close as you and I just were.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. So anyway, what I would look at them and say is this. Look, because Reagan said this, no pale pastels, you need bright colors. I agree with that. Absolutely. And too many of our traditional candidates have not shown a bright, clear enough difference between us and the left.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
If we sell with what we want and we want to get our liberties back, if we come with that viewpoint, we're going to lose the voters. Why? Because they don't care what you want and they don't care about what you get back. They care what they want. So structure your message to put their needs first and you will win more voters. Would you like to do that together?
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, and closing things out today, the other thing I was going to tell Andy is, and for those of you listening, is these 25 or so that are really running the Colorado Republican Party right now. No, I'm not talking about the chair.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, not Britta.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm talking about the rhino watchers. The problem is when you've got a group of individuals that are grifters, that care more about the money and the power than they actually do winning in the state of Colorado. Everything Andy and I just said falls on deaf ears. So I guess I'm going to really think harder about how do we eliminate these particular individuals from our party in Colorado? And because, frankly, folks, I don't have an exact answer because I really feel like it's those of you that are, quote unquote, supporting them. You're going to have to be the ones to actually say, listen, guys, we don't like the way you're leading us. We want to go a totally different direction, and you've got to get the 25 with supporters down to just 25. If you can get it down to just 25, we win.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, here's the problem. Those people are telling all their followers the end game is to get control of our party, and that will get us home.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, that's going to do nothing to get us home. Right. That's divisive, and it'll do nothing to get us home. Yeah. All right. We'll talk more about this. Have a great night. Be safe out there. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
In this compelling episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush explores the complex interplay between entitlement and opportunity within the American socioeconomic landscape. With insightful commentary, he dissects the tangible consequences of widespread entitlement programs like WIC and food stamps on taxpayers and questions the narrative that these handouts are necessary for societal welfare. Through vivid anecdotes and fierce debate with co-hosts, John challenges the deeply-rooted belief that security should trump opportunity in economic policies. The conversation takes a critical turn as they scrutinize the behavioral dynamics of entitlement culture among younger generations. Listeners are prompted to reconsider the values of self-reliance and ambition in a world obsessed with comfort. The episode further delves into the economic repercussions of relying heavily on government aid, underscoring the potential of risk as a driver for innovation and job creation. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how entitlement can slowly chip away at the core of opportunity-based society.
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SPEAKER 19 :
All right, welcome. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Last hour, of course, we were talking to Jordan Goodman, and we really started off, and I probably got, I don't know, I'm not going to apologize for anything. But, you know, I get pretty upset when we start talking about all of the giveaways. That's what I figure they are. That's what I call them. And a lot of you listening, I think, would agree with me when it comes to things like food stamps and WIC. and so on. And I get it. I understand they're not one in the same. WIC is different than SNAP and so on. I get that. Bottom line, they're handouts from me, the positive taxpayer, to those that are the negative taxpayer. And there was their net tax receivers at the end of the day. And yes, it irritates me when I see people, especially on social media. And then we had people that were texting in talking about how I'm in line next to somebody using their EBT card, and yet there's a brand new iPhone 17 that's in their hand. And you know, Don't get me started on all that. A lot of these people have way more, in my opinion, than what they should have. And yet I, as a taxpayer, am funding their lifestyle. I don't like that. I think it's a slap in the face for those that are actually taxpayers. And I get it. Those people are going to say, well, you know what? You could be doing the same thing. No, I have pride. And no, I'm not going to do that because I'm not taking a handout from anyone, especially Uncle Sam. I'm doing it on my own. That was one of my number one goals as a kid even was I'm not taking a handout from him. I started buying my own clothes. when I was 13 years old. I'm not taking a handout from anybody if I've got the ability to work for myself and make it happen. And we've lost that, Andy. And you had a great example or a great word for this during the break that I want you to share because you're a thousand percent correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. I want to talk about what is the most destructive word in the history of the United States. And it isn't close. It is not Hitler. It's not, I'm serious. It is not racism, which was horrible, right? And I could reel off several horrible words. I won't go through them all, but you think about all the worst words of our past. No, the word entitlement is the worst word. It has destroyed America. And it started really with FDR. who put it into gear, LBJ, and then Obama. Okay, those were the three times that it really raced forward. And they have churned America into, we were the land of what, John?
SPEAKER 19 :
Opportunity.
SPEAKER 07 :
Opportunity. That is the opposite of entitlement. Okay, with opportunity, there is risk. With entitlement, there is security. And we have put security ahead of risk. I got news for you. Security doesn't build jobs, John. Risk does.
SPEAKER 19 :
Saw it during COVID, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Security doesn't advance us. Risk does.
SPEAKER 19 :
The reason I say we saw it during COVID is people literally gave up their freedoms for quote-unquote security. For a feeling of security. Yeah, thank you. It wasn't really security, but they thought it might be.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, okay, let's have everything spaced out six feet in these restaurants, so you've got to have half as many tables. Oh, well, they're going to go out of business. Okay, we'll just give them lots of free government money to take care of them through that time. There is no free government money. That comes from taxpayers. You're putting us way into debt by doing this. We can't afford this. And by the way, you have no science even proving that you need this. Okay, guys, risk.
SPEAKER 19 :
But it felt secure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
It felt secure, Andy. Let's close down churches. Let's close down businesses. Let's close down certain sections of the store, by the way, where you can't go down this aisle. I mean, think about some of the stupid things we did, Andy, all for the name of, quote, unquote, security.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And so entitlement is destroying our country. There's no question. Obviously, the worst things in our country. Well, even Jordan, even Jordan was saying, hey, Medicare was supposed to cost a billion. Give me a break. It's 800. Right. OK. And it's just like for crying out loud, folks. So entitlement right now, you've got an entire entitlement culture of young people. Now, I believe there are young people turning it around.
SPEAKER 19 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 07 :
There are places where I'll go out to eat and this young person will be phenomenal what they do in that one. But then I will see the entitlement culture. And then you've got these people who are at home getting WIC, getting this, getting that. Now, don't get me wrong. There are cases, and these are the ones the Democrats will always roll out, where the floor falls out from under you in life. I get that. Okay, your factory closed, your company went under, you were wrongly treated at work, you were fired because you wouldn't sleep with the boss, whatever. Okay, horrible things happen in life. I get that. But, John, I'll bet you 95% of the people getting those entitlements aren't that. Aren't that.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, you're right. They're not, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're hooked on my money and your money.
SPEAKER 19 :
When I see videos, I was going to say this earlier, when I see videos of individuals, in this case women, talking about what a schmuck I am because all they have to do is have one more kid, five, six, seven, doesn't make any difference, but all they have to do is have one more kid stay home, watch the kids, and basically I'm paying for them to do so.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And they're basically laughing, quote-unquote, all the way to the bank on my dime.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's irritating.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's very irritating. And this is why I look at these people who, they get angry at the existence of rich people, all right?
SPEAKER 19 :
And I've talked to a lot of young people, but... If it wasn't for the rich people, they wouldn't have what they have, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, they wouldn't have jobs, okay? And I always look at young people and I say, guys... And I've had this discussion with so many young people. And after it, every one of them has a whole new appreciation. It goes like this. I say, guys, do you understand how much risk there is involved in creating a job? Oh, well, you know that. No, no. Do you understand? Let me explain this to you. Let's say that you want to open a Subway. Okay. Yeah. And it's a franchise. And so you work with sub whatever. Okay. You want to open that sandwich shop and you need some employees. Okay. And you decide, okay, I'm going to have this many employees. And let's say that John, you, you do a great assessment of the area and you target a perfect spot where you get, you are going to corner the market. You're going to be booming with business. OK, and so everything is going right. And you have let's say you have eight to 10 employees and you're rocking. Guess what? Other people are going to see that that area is rocking. It's oversaturated. Before long, you are going to have two competitors in the area. Now you're going to have this sandwich shop. You're going to have that's Jimmy John's and so forth. And they're going to be in the area. Why? Because for a short period of time, you are actually able. to create jobs and make a bunch of money. And now that's been cut to a third. Okay. That market has been cut to a third overnight. That happens in a couple of years. And now what are you going to do? You are taking all that risk. Even if you do everything right, you are taking that much risk to create all 10 or 12 of those jobs. Okay. And here's, and here's what I look at them and say, guys, none of those 10 or 12 people took one ounce of risk. They just get the jobs. In fact, they're going to go to your competitors where they can get a quarter more an hour. That's what's going to happen. And you say, let's punish the rich. I'm telling you, it is not enough. You say they have more than they need. And here's where I finish it. I say, you say they have more than they need. I got news for you. They need to have way, way, way, way more. then they need to endure that kind of risk.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. That's right. That's exactly right. No, and when I was a young person, still to this day in this way, if I see or if I've seen or saw, even today, see somebody that has done extremely well, they're extremely wealthy and so on, first thing I think of, Andy, is good for them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 19 :
Second of all, it's what can I learn from them? In other words, what can I gain from them that I can apply to my own life so I can be more like them? That's how I've always looked at it. Not I deserve to have what they have or they shouldn't have what they have. They should give it to me. No, no, no. I've always looked at it and thought, wow, A, that's amazing. B, how did they get there? C, how can I learn to do what they did? Right. Why can't we teach young people to do that same thing now?
SPEAKER 07 :
Because you can't learn from those you resent.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, we close with Andy saying, you cannot learn from those you resent. Great statement. Dave, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, just what it reminded me of is an old saying, and I'm not sure who it's really attributed to, but I understood it was from Benjamin Franklin, who had a saying that said, when the people realize that they can vote themselves money from the Treasury, then the Republic is doomed.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I believe that was Franklin. Yeah, I think that was Franklin, and he's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, this is where we've gotten, and the thing is, that's what made America great, was that, as you guys pointed out, opportunity. This was a wide-open land, and the... consensus was the feeling was back then at the founding go out there do what you can take the risk go out to the frontier fight fight whoever you got to fight to build your life and you can make it you're gonna fail i have one quick statement i want to make before andy goes because he had a one-liner i have one marxism kills opportunity yes absolutely and right andy oh yeah we're doing But when we do that, and I think it's somewhere in scriptures, it destroys the spirit and the soul of man when you give them a fish and you don't teach them to fish. They lose that will that God gave us to strive to achieve and to become successful in our own abilities. It's the same thing as raising any other child. If you're constantly carrying that child around or you don't let them take risks, Well, then they'll never grow as a human being that they should be. And that's where I believe we're at.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Dave, I want to pose a quick scenario to you. Let's say you're walking home after work and you make a mistake. You want a shortcut. You go down the wrong alley. And suddenly you are surrounded by five guys with knives. And they say, we want your wallet. And they say, look, there's five of us. Why don't you give us the wallet? How is that any different from the majority voting itself your money?
SPEAKER 19 :
No different.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's no different.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because instead of a knife, they hold government. That's right. It's no different. What is different? None.
SPEAKER 16 :
Go ahead. Nothing at all. I mean, it's straight up extortion. Because the thing is, you're not going to be able to get out of paying your taxes. Try it. See what happens to you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, you end up in jail.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you'll end up in jail. There's consequences to not going along with this extortion scheme that the government's got going on. And so it destroys that ability. I mean, why is it that there's so many people from around the world who are risking their lives to come to the United States? Because this is the – like Ronald Reagan said, that shining city upon the hill. That beacon of opportunity, that beacon of hope, this is humanity's last great hope as America, in my opinion. And when we stifle that, when we destroy that, when we let it be destroyed from within by those leeches, because that's what they are, then there is no hope for humanity.
SPEAKER 19 :
You're right. You're right. No, again, and Dave, I think, and this is where I believe the Democrats right now are extremely mistaken. Now, I do think there's some in the party that understand this fully and they don't like the direction things are headed, but the marching orders are coming from far above them. So they're going to go ahead and just, Democrats do very well at taking the marching orders that are there and not questioning it. But I do believe there's some of the party thinking this shutdown is going to kill us in the midterms if we keep going down this path. I do believe there's some Democrats that understand that. And trust me, Dave, it will if it keeps going.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the only silver lining I can see on that whole thing, if it continues, is that if it continues into next month, from what I've been reading, a certain portion of the law kicks in to where the president doesn't have to rehire certain federal workers. They can do what they call a reduction and enforce a RIF, and he doesn't have to go through all these processes to let them come back or to remove them. So if that continues, this might play right into the president's hand of reducing the size of government and those NGOs that are leeching off the taxpayer for purposes that are cross or counter to what is in the best interest of the American people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and in the meantime, the Democrats have one big messaging problem, and that is that the Republicans have voted as one to keep things open. They have voted as one to keep all these payments going to people, and the Democrats haven't. And that's something that's very hard for them to get around.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, and the thing is that that's one thing that the Republicans are going to have to start hammering on more effectively, because we all know that because we're paying attention. But I don't think the average low-information voter out there is understanding that fact because that information is not getting out through NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN. It's got to be pushed out there, and we've got to get those spokesmen out there to sell the truth.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep, you're right. Dave, I can't argue that. You're 100% correct. So I'll let you go. Thank you for that. Texter just said, by the way, that knew somebody that rented through Section 8. Went over there. They had TiVo, free computer, free internet. Really got chapped that they were living higher on the hog using taxpayer dollars than I was living at. The mother kept popping out children with different fathers. I don't know about the son, but the daughters became second-generation doltakers. Yeah, because they're taught how to do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it absolutely becomes generational.
SPEAKER 19 :
It just keeps rolling.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. It has to stop, John.
SPEAKER 19 :
It goes back to the whole Marxism takes away, kills opportunity, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
What you just described is how $1 billion becomes $800 billion in the budget. Correct.
SPEAKER 19 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. You can't have that continue. We have to get rid of entitlement. We have to replace it with opportunity. With opportunity comes risk. We have to get people to understand again that life has to have risk. Any kind of politician who says they want to legislate risk out of your life, they can only do that at great cost to others. John, let me ask you this. How do insurance companies make a profit?
SPEAKER 19 :
By not paying out more than they bring in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. The only way is that people on average have to pay much more in.
SPEAKER 19 :
Less claims than policies paid.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. To cover the risk.
SPEAKER 19 :
Premiums is what I should say. Less claims than premiums.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. So what happens when a whole country does that?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, it goes upside down.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's where we're at.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. That's the problem. You can't do it. You can't run a country like that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, unless your whole idea, and this is my belief, and this is exactly what's been happening for the past 70 years or so, when you get a Marxist takeover that happens slowly but surely, one little bite at a time. You know how to eat an elephant, Andy? One bite at a time.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they started in education.
SPEAKER 19 :
And when they start an education, you start teaching people that there is no opportunity. The bad guys are the rich guys. It's the big, bad, evil, rich guys, corporations, all of this. You put movies out. You get Hollywood on your side. I've said this before, but almost every single major Hollywood production, without just a few exceptions, the big, bad guy in business is the big, bad guy, Andy. It's always the evil one, the guy in business, the guy that's got the upper hand or the business that has the upper hand or they're the polluters or they're this or they're that. Right. It's always big, bad business people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, take it from a movie critic. Okay, for me, that is so threadbare. I am so tired of the evil corporation.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep, and it's been going on, Andy, for 50 plus years.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and by the way, John, guess what? Rich people are evil and good. Right. Okay. They're like, they're like all other people. They're like everybody else. And you say, they can't possibly need that much. Understand this. They're not living in a vacuum. Well, look at the life that they live, the life of luxury. Okay, describe it to me. Oh, my gosh, look at this mansion. Who made it? What workers made it? Look at these lawns. Who tends to them? Well, look at those cars. Who built those? Okay, look at this. Everything they do employs people.
SPEAKER 19 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
Everything.
SPEAKER 19 :
Including after the fact, because most of what you just talked about requires ongoing things that require additional monies being spent, meaning that it's not even a one-time thing, Andy. It's ongoing.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know.
SPEAKER 19 :
For those individuals.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And it's like, guys, everything that you say is a luxury in their life is put out by people working.
SPEAKER 19 :
Some of these big homes that are for sale, by the way, the Tom Cruise estates in Telluride or whatever, where I think he just sold them recently. It wasn't like $40 million or something he sold in, I want to say, Charlie, something like that. Anyways, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, Andy, do you think that estate, when he's not there, just sits empty?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's tended to.
SPEAKER 19 :
How many people do you think are employed there year round to make sure that thing is top notch so that when and if he shows up in his private jet, it's ready to go?
SPEAKER 07 :
Lots. And these are good people. And by the way, who flies the private jet and who takes care of it? Who are the mechanics?
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. On down the line we go.
SPEAKER 07 :
I always look at these people and I say, let me ask you three quick questions. Number one, do you want your employer to be poorer?
SPEAKER 19 :
Um, I don't, I'm not employed, but I wouldn't Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Number two. Yeah. But I'm talking to the people who are whining about their employer.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 07 :
Number two, do you want your best customers to be poorer?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, you want them to be richer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Number three, do you want all your best customers employers to be poorer?
SPEAKER 19 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, it affects you. It all affects you. Nobody lives in a vacuum. And, you know, look, I can tell you flat out, are there some rich people who got lucky with their money? Of course. Oh, yeah, there is. Absolutely. There's luck in life. Sure. By the way, though, I don't know any rich people who are getting tons of government dollars to them unless that they are leftists who get it through subsidies. OK, for the most part, or they're cheating somehow or they're cheating. But that's usually people on the left. You know that. And it's like, guys, number one, you don't want your employer or your best customers or your best customers, employers to be poorer. So right there, that blows away your whole theory. And number two, the rich aren't living in a vacuum. Everything that they have and do is benefiting you.
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SPEAKER 19 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, for all you Jew haters that are out there, why is it that this peace deal has happened and yet Hamas is still killing people inside of its own borders, Andy?
SPEAKER 07 :
Because they kill a lot.
SPEAKER 19 :
I thought that was Israel doing all that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, now you've got to keep in mind, a lot of Hamas was wiped out by Israel, and as a result, there are people in Gaza who didn't want Hamas. Remember, they were voted in, but that doesn't mean by 100%.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so you've got people now who want to rise up and say, hey, this whole Riviera of the Middle East thing that Trump wants, we kind of like that idea.
SPEAKER 19 :
Get out. But now Hamas is fighting back against those individuals.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. They've got to kill them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Killing those.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
I thought they were the nice guys, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they are, of course. They're great. I mean, they always help little old ladies across the street. This is all they do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, gotcha.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. I don't want to get into the Tucker and Candace thing.
SPEAKER 19 :
They're knuckleheads.
SPEAKER 07 :
They hate Israel.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Okay, they do. And Candace, really quick, well, I think Tucker's a loon, too, but Candace is really up there on the top of the charts for being a loon.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think Candace flat out hates Jews. I think she goes deeper than Tucker. I think Tucker hates Israel.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I think Candace is very— She goes deeper. Yeah, but again, she's cray-cray. She's a loon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, he cloaks it better. But I want people— Good way of saying it.
SPEAKER 19 :
She's more open.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I saw this one guy. Gosh, I think it's Josh Hammer said this. I'm not sure. But I think he's the one who said, Tucker, Candace is clumsy and easy to pick up.
SPEAKER 19 :
She's younger. She's just not as smart, let's say it that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
She's not. And he said, Tucker is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America. He said because he cloaks it so well. But anyway, this young student, I debate against a lot of the Tuckerites. Not too many of the Candace ones, cause they're such loons, but
SPEAKER 19 :
It's like trying to debate somebody that likes Alex Jones.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. I'm sorry. Well, it is. It's very similar. It totally is.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. They're both nut jobs.
SPEAKER 07 :
But here you're going in, and this is from about a year ago, and so we're right in the middle of Israel's war in the Gaza. Okay. Okay. And you've got this student asks Ben Shapiro two different questions. This clip is just over five minutes. Folks, listen to every second. It is brilliant because this student says his questions are... advocating exactly what I hear from Tucker and Candace supporters. Here we go.
SPEAKER 12 :
As an American Jew, how can you continue to condone the actions of the Israeli government, condoned by the U.S. government, in the Gaza Strip, where over 40,000 people have died, including Palestinians and Israelis, and large numbers of children and civilians? How can you continue to condone those actions?
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, so, okay, hold on. I want to correct you. I don't just condone the actions of the Israeli Defense Force and the Israeli government. I celebrate and laud them. I'm not morally apathetic about what's happening. On October 7th, Hamas launched the most deadly war on Jews since the Holocaust. They killed 1,200 innocent people. They took 250 hostages. 100 of them are still being held hostage. I know members of families of hostages who are still being held, American citizens. Hamas could end this war today by surrendering. They've chosen not to surrender. Instead, they spent billions of dollars building terror tunnels below civilian areas. It is not incumbent on the Israeli government to surrender just because terrorists are evil enough to hide behind civilians. The Israeli government has gone through such extraordinary efforts not to kill civilians that it has managed the best civilian to terrorist kill ratio in the history of urban warfare, and it is not close. I personally know soldiers who have gone door to door in the Gaza Strip who have risked their own lives to prevent civilian death. Israel has complete and utter air superiority over the Gaza Strip. Turns out that Hamas doesn't have an air force, they just had a series of tunnels where they hid all their leadership while their people suffered after their people voted for them, and then they effectively established a dictatorship over the course of the last 20 years. Israel, with their complete air superiority, certainly would have had the ability to commit full-scale human atrocities had they wanted to. They have complete air superiority. They could have used F-35s and simply turned the place into a parking lot. They did not, in fact, do that. They moved vast scales of population. In fact, believe it or not, there have been more births in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of this war than there have been deaths in the Gaza Strip from the war itself. That is a very poor way to conduct a genocide. Israel is being more meticulous in the conduct of this war than any army in human history, and certainly than the United States Army in its vast role in the history of urban combat. That is uncontested. What is Israel supposed to do? Simply say that you get to play tag, you take Israeli citizens, you kill 1,200 people, you hide behind a baby, you hide behind a civilian, and now Israel has to preemptively surrender? That is a great way to make sure that terrorists always win. What Israel has done ought to be celebrated by the Western world because they've demonstrated that if terrorists decide... To launch a war they cannot win. They will be eviscerated from the face of the earth as they ought to be.
SPEAKER 12 :
Do you not want a ceasefire now?
SPEAKER 18 :
I do not want a ceasefire until Hamas is destroyed and all the hostages are back. I want... And you know how that could happen? It could have happened October 6th. There was a ceasefire on October 6th. And then there wasn't a ceasefire starting on October 7th. And there could have been a ceasefire again on October 8th, even after all of the death. If Hamas had surrendered its top leadership to international justice, if it had released all of its hostages, and if it had turned over its rulership of the Gaza Strip to some sort of decent body that wouldn't have reinstalled terrorism at the top of the food chain. I mean, what exactly is the excuse for Hezbollah getting involved in the war? Hezbollah isn't even in Israel. Hezbollah has nothing to do with Israeli territory, and they've been launching 8,000 rockets between October 7th and now. Now it's more like 12,000 or 13,000 rockets, hundreds of them every week. What is the justification for that? There is only one way to defeat terrorism, and that is to win. You do not win wars with ceasefires. You do not win wars by losing.
SPEAKER 12 :
In your speech, you mentioned that there are scavengers who like to tear down and there are lions who like to build up. Are there not some institutions we ought to tear down in society, potentially like the Israeli Defense Force?
SPEAKER 18 :
I think it would be an act of the gravest evil to even make that contention simply because the Israeli Defense Force stands between seven and a half million Jews in Israel and complete slaughter. And by the way, over two million Arabs and complete slaughter who are citizens of the state of Israel. The only security and peace in the region right now is being guaranteed by the Israeli military. That is the only force standing between that region and continued chaos. The destruction of the IDF is the destruction of Israel. That means a genocide, a true genocide. The thing that everybody likes to ignore in the Middle East while they're claiming genocide. and while they are claiming apartheid, is that there's only one area in that specific area that is free of one ethnicity and religion, and it is quote unquote Palestine, which has zero Jews living in it. If you drive through the West Bank, there are giant red signs if you drive into the Palestinian Authority areas saying Jews are not allowed in here. And if you drive there, Without the permission of the Israeli government as a Jew, you will be killed. If you're a Palestinian and you accidentally make your way into Israel, nothing will happen to you. You will go back to Nablus in the evening. If you make it through the checkpoint accidentally, you'll go back. And if you're a Jew and you accidentally drive into Ramallah, you will not emerge alive. If we are talking about which force here is a force for good and which force here is a force for evil, there is no question what the distinction is. If we're going to talk about institutions that ought to be torn down, we should start with the legacy media, which seems to have radically misinformed you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, solid. Yeah, I mean... Solid. Yeah, it just blows my mind that you have these people and you listen to... I get tired of even saying their names, Tucker, whatever. But you listen to them and they bring on all these Israel haters. And then they say, oh, we're just asking questions. We're just asking questions. I'm just asking questions. Really? You've just interviewed like five or six of the biggest Israel haters ever. in America, and you call them foreign policy experts. And it's like, for crying out loud, do you understand we're talking about good versus evil? There was evil over there. There was good. And let me tell you something. This peace plan was not led at its heart actually by Donald Trump, even though I give him incredible credit. He's amazing. He deserves an award. It was led by Bibi Netanyahu, who destroyed those, who reduced to rubble those who would threaten his people.
SPEAKER 19 :
Again, Andy, as I said, starting this particular segment off, this is for all the Jew haters that are out there. Yeah. And they listen. And I know some of you say, well, John, how do you know that? Folks, I don't read some of these things from the text line on air purposely because I don't want to give them any fodder or any acknowledgement. But Trust me. We've got folks that listen in, that text in, and even email in and talk about different things in regards to this. And I can read through the lines. They're Jew haters. Yes. At the end of the day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Period. Here's the bottom line, John. They believe in live and let jihad. Okay, I was saying this online. They believe in live and let jihad. They always have another excuse for why we can call both sides equally to blame, equally to blame. No, they're not equally to blame. One side is savage, and the other side is trying to survive. And, oh, by the way, they're outnumbered about a zillion to one in the Middle East. They're a tiny little place. It is not equal. Okay, and they try to do that. They believe in live and let jihad. You know what live and let jihad produced? It produced October 7th. BB believes in destroy that enemy that is threatening my people. You know what that produced? October 8th, a few days ago.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right. Exactly. All right. We'll come right back. Let's do this. Golden Eagle Financial, they've got a great interview. Al did, I should say, here recently. You can always hear Al, by the way, in his own program from 2 to 2.30 right here on KLZ Radio. And you can find Al online on our website, klzradio.com. And I think Charlie's busy, so give me one second here, and we'll get Al's interview up and running, and then we'll come right back right after that. So, again, you can find Al at klzradio.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
TJ here with KLZ and Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, I have a question for you. I've been putting money away for a while in a savings account or maybe a couple of investment accounts, but what am I doing wrong and what can you do better than that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think a savings account is important because all the financial gurus, including myself, agree you should have three to six months savings that you have ready liquid access to. But retirement planning is a bit more long-term and And it's a bit more strategic. We want to take a look at the sum of money you'll need way into the future. And we want to look at how that money can last by providing you income for as long as you live.
SPEAKER 04 :
What kind of planning or strategy do you provide for folks with that that have a big savings but haven't made that next step?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, that's a good question. If someone has a large amount in savings, one of the things I do is we have a conversation about their risk tolerance. Nobody's comfortable losing money, but having money in the market over a long period of time is a mechanism to accumulate wealth. And so we talk about the different levels of risk and the different products that are available. And we don't put everybody into one box, but I have an enormous assortment of financial products. And it's not that there's good ones or bad ones. It's there are some that are more appropriate for some people, but not for others.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that sounds excellent. How can folks get in touch with you for that meeting?
SPEAKER 13 :
You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if I'm not there, it goes to voicemail, but I return my voicemails promptly. And we could have a conversation in the office. If you live a considerable distance away, we can have a long phone conversation or a Zoom call, whichever you would prefer.
SPEAKER 04 :
And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
SPEAKER 04 :
You bet.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right. We are back. And again, I'm a little behind here because I wanted to talk about this particular topic at the bottom of the hour. But we again, we got a little bit delayed talking about kind of recapping the first hour that we drug into the second hour. And I wanted to get something in on the whole Hamas peace agreement and what's happening there. But really, at the bottom of the hour, I really wanted to talk about Victor Marx. Yeah. And we talked about this last Tuesday. But I want to get into this and we'll spend a little bit more time on this in the last hour because there's a lot of stuff on. all over social media in regards to Victor and his campaign and the launch of – and again, it's – unfortunately, a lot of this is coming from not my side, but from the conservatives, from the right. And I use that term loosely because I wonder at times how conservative really are some of these knuckleheads that are spewing some of the nonsense that's out there. And again, folks, before we get going – I want to make sure I'm crystal clear here. I'm not endorsing anyone. Nope. I never do. I don't get behind any candidate. I don't throw any weight around any particular candidate. Once somebody has an R next to their name after the primary is over and we know full well who's going to be our gubernatorial candidate, then yes, of course, at that point, I'm endorsing that person because they have an R next to their name, Andy. Of course. And I'm not going to endorse a D or a Libertarian or anybody else that's out there. I'm going to endorse the Republican candidate at that point in time.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. Let me ask you a question, John, because, you know, there are a bunch of candidates right now.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right now there's, is it 18, I want to say, or is it almost 20 now?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And even with the right word lunge of the country right now, Colorado is now somewhat in play. But on the generic ballot.
SPEAKER 19 :
A little bit, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, on the generic ballot right now, Republicans are still, for governor, running 12 points behind the Democrats. It's not that close, okay? This is still a very tough place to win. And so here's my question. Can a Republican even compete in this state if that person, he or she, does not have... My goodness, a presence, a personality, something. What I mean is they have to be special. They have to be somebody. Let me put it this way. They have to be somebody almost universally admired.
SPEAKER 19 :
I can't argue that. No, can't argue that, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's true. It can't just be a skillful Republican politician. No, it can't be somebody. I hate to say this because I'm on the hard right. It can't be. No, it cannot be John Rush or Andy. No, we're too far.
SPEAKER 19 :
We're too far for the majority of people that are in the middle.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. It's got to be somebody who is compelling.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I say that, by the way, with all kindness. Oh, yeah. I'm saying that as, A, being kind but strategic at the same time. And please, folks – and I've interviewed several different people that are running right now. And the ones that I've interviewed, if you guys are listening, love you both. I interviewed Scott Bottoms and – And Mark Baisley, both. And love you guys. And you're hard. Your heart's in the right place. And nothing against either one of you. And love you both dearly. And if I could, by the way, combine both of you together and create a candidate out of that, I think we'd have a pretty top-notch candidate. The only problem, Scott, I'm going to speak to you directly, that I have and where I think you're really going to struggle is you're too much like me. And I mean that in all sincerity. Scott is very much like you and I, Andy, in his belief system and what he thinks and so on. And I love him for that. But the reality is that's going to be hard to be elected. That's hard to get elected having that mindset in Colorado.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, the bottom line is Scott probably out of all the major candidates on our side, there are some minor ones. But on the major ones, and he's one of them. he would have the least pull outside our base.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, the least amount of traction, absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, our base is only going to pull you 20%, 25%. Correct. Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
At most.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And so I'm sorry that doesn't do it. Look, what I'm saying is this. Whoever we put up in this, we're still down 12 points here in the generic. That person must be incredibly compelling and inspirational, right? And now when I look at Victor Marks, I'm going to talk about him for just a second. We have not vetted this guy. There could be plenty come out and I could say, nope, not a chance, whatever. Okay. This is early, early. And I can't wait for him to go into some tough interviews and debates.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. So I'm way light years from indoor. Well, I never endorsed him.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, we don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
We don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
But right now, do you see anybody else? in this race who is of the compelling, inspirational nature who could break through in Colorado.
SPEAKER 19 :
And please, folks, listen to me when I say this. No, and I'm not sure Victor can either. And I'm saying that for all of you, Victor. supporters that are out there I'm being as kind as I can across the board I'll be honest with you when it comes to the Victor end of things I don't know yet I really haven't heard him to Andy's point I've heard him speak to some listeners or sorry some some followers of his some supporters and so on but I haven't seen him really out in the crowd You know, kissing babies and really talking to those that are on the street that are middle of the road, those voters that he's going to have to have on his side. I haven't seen that yet. Doesn't mean that he won't do well. And I don't know him personally. So this is me just talking on a outsider looking in viewpoint because I don't know him on any kind of a personal level. I don't know if he's even that guy, Andy. Right. I can't answer that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and looking at some of these others, like Greg Lopez. Do I think he's a bad candidate? No. Who's the guy you just mentioned?
SPEAKER 19 :
Mark Baisley.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mark Baisley.
SPEAKER 19 :
Great guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Love Mark. I think Mark is probably as solid across the board as they come.
SPEAKER 19 :
And of all of them, I know Mark the best.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Yeah. And very good. Yeah. Solid guy. Now, do I look at... Let's just use those two as an example. Scott's a different animal because he's going to really pull the hard right.
SPEAKER 19 :
He's too much like you and me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Yeah. But if you look at Mark and Greg, okay, are they bad candidates? No, they're very good candidates. Do I like them both? Yes, I like them both a lot. Do I believe either one of them can win in a state where we're down 12 in the generic ballot? Do I feel either one of them is compelling enough to the general voter outside our base in Colorado to win here? I'm sorry, and this is going to sound mean, but no, I don't.
SPEAKER 19 :
I agree. I agree, Andy. I'm not disagreeing with you at all. And like I said a moment ago, I'm not even sure Victor's that guy yet. I'm not either. I will tell you as time goes by and we get a couple of months in and again, folks, lots of time. Some of you are like, well, I think he just threw his hat in the ring because it was Charlie Kirk and somebody set him up and and all the big money came in. By the way, you guys say that you're dumb. You guys are morons. You have no idea what you're even talking about. You're just throwing things out there, hoping it sticks. And at the end of the day, you don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, they don't. They don't. You know, and let's look at the other side of the party, Barb Kirkmeyer. Okay, Barb.
SPEAKER 19 :
I already talked about her last week, so I won't say anymore.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, bottom line is very simple. Barb will be the people in our party who don't support Barb. They're the rhino watchers.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And they're wrong, by the way. Okay, but here's the problem with the rhino watchers, okay? If you want to look at what you would quote-unquote call the establishment, I think it's terrible. Eli Bremmer is right. It's a terribly misused term. Nowadays, the establishment is the rhino watchers.
SPEAKER 19 :
Is the rhino watchers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
They're the establishment.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, but let's, because I don't know what else to call them. The moderates, whatever you want to call them, okay? The ones who used to be the establishment.
SPEAKER 19 :
That no longer are.
SPEAKER 07 :
That no longer are. Whatever. Okay? Because I don't call them leftists because Barb is not a leftist.
SPEAKER 19 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
But what I mean is the old establishment. That group, say what you want about them, they're loyal to the Republican Party. They will vote for the Republican ticket almost 100% of the time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
The rhino watchers have no loyalty. They won't.
SPEAKER 19 :
There's no loyalty at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
No loyalty to the Republican Party.
SPEAKER 19 :
They will withhold their vote. Really quick, what you just said, they're opposite of loyal. They're destructive.
SPEAKER 07 :
They are destructive.
SPEAKER 19 :
These are destructive individuals, and they don't care what they destroy.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, they don't.
SPEAKER 19 :
Doesn't matter. Meaning, by the way, meaning, and I'll say this all day long, they're not Republicans.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. They're not.
SPEAKER 19 :
Folks, I don't know, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're running our party right now.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't know, RhinoWatch, really quick, and I know a lot of you guys listen, I don't even know what to call you because you're not Republicans. So I'm not even going to call you Republicans in name only because you're not even that. I don't know what you are. I don't know what label to even put on you other than you're so destructive that you'll blow your own house up if you have to because you don't care. Right. You're one of those that will cut off your nose to spite your face. You don't care at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they sell rage, and they believe that that equates to Trump. And it's just like, you guys don't seem to understand Trump.
SPEAKER 19 :
Trump's methodical, folks. He's not a rage baiter. He's not into that end of things. Does he use rage from all of you at times to his advantage? Absolutely he does. He's very keen when it comes to that, but he doesn't use it himself.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, he's having fun with it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. It's the opposite of you guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, he trolls. You guys rage. Oh, absolutely. You lash out. To the max. Trump trolls. Rhino Watch rages out. And here's what I mean. The Rhino Watch part of the party, as I said, right now, they control over half of the state central committee for the Republican Party. They are the powerhouse. magnet right now for the republican party because of the caucus system that they can overrun right okay they have taken advantage of the caucus system and seized control anyway setting that aside here's the problem kirkmeyer has they'll stay home which means she has to reach even more voters outside our base She can't do it. I don't think there's any way.
SPEAKER 19 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I got nothing against Barb. I think she would make a fine candidate.
SPEAKER 19 :
And frankly, as much as I love Mark Baisley, he sort of fits into that with the Rhino Watch folks as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they hate him too. I don't understand why.
SPEAKER 19 :
They don't particularly care for him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mark is.
SPEAKER 19 :
Because Mark's a great guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but he's to the right of Barb.
SPEAKER 19 :
But he's not as far right as Scott is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, no, no.
SPEAKER 19 :
And Scott's where they're going to throw their hat in the ring for.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that's hopeless.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's what they're doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
But Scott is not going to win the primary.
SPEAKER 19 :
And again, I like Scott. I like Mark. I like Barb. I mean, I like all of them. Yeah, I like them all. The problem is, to Andy's point, and I don't even know if this is victory yet, we need somebody that's hugely dynamic, that can attract all sorts of people from all sorts of walk of life, if you're going to have any chance at all of beating Michael Bennett. He'll be the primary winner on the Democrat side, I'm pretty confident in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And this is going—yeah, I think it's going to be better.
SPEAKER 19 :
It won't be our— Our agent. Yeah, it won't be Phil Weiser. It's not going to happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't think it'll be Weiser. I think Weiser's the only competition.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and the reason it won't be Phil Weiser is because, frankly, even in the Democrat Party, he comes off as too much of a snake. Yeah, he does. He really does. He comes off as a very inexperienced snake.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Because he is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
At the end of the day, he is.
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, Victor Marks is the one everybody's talking about. In the polling that's been done, what's his name? I'm forgetting him. He's the lawyer. He hasn't even gotten in the race yet. He ran for AG.
SPEAKER 19 :
Kaplis?
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 19 :
No. Who then?
SPEAKER 07 :
Ah, doggone it.
SPEAKER 19 :
What can I think of his name? The Aurora Theater Killing Heat. Oh, Brockner?
SPEAKER 07 :
Brockler.
SPEAKER 19 :
Or Brockler. Brockler.
SPEAKER 07 :
George Brockler is the only one in the Republican Party who polls to where he could possibly win. Wow.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wow. And George, I mean this in all sincerity, you do a lot of things I don't agree with, so that would be a tough one for me.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know he does. Red flag laws.
SPEAKER 19 :
A lot of things, George, you've done. For me, that's the biggie. Yeah, you and I are in just a lot of disagreement on certain things that I would struggle with.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, but John, you and I are in a lot of disagreement with most Colorado voters.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know. I know. I understand that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Anyway, just saying.
SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
All right, we're going to wrap up this hour. Ben from Evergreen will join us here at the top of next hour. So, Ben, hang tight. We'll get you on. And again, a lot more to talk about, folks. And again, I just want to make sure I'm crystal clear. I don't endorse or push anybody. I try to be as explanatory and quote-unquote neutral with all of this as I possibly can. I'm not behind any policy. One individual. I think each one needs to run their own campaign. There will be a lot of things that happens between now and the primary, which is June-ish, I want to say, right? End of June, Andy? Yep, late June. So there will be a lot of things that will happen between now and then. A lot of names will most likely drop out. And, you know, frankly, you might even see another new name or two added in. You never know. Ben, hang tight. We'll come right back and talk to you. Myself, Andy Pate. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Their home. The hostages have been returned. The peace president has prevailed. Now, with a special edition of the Mike Gallagher Show, here's Mike.
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It is great news indeed, and the joy of the returning hostages continues to reverberate all throughout the world. Welcome in. I want to start with a report from Trey Yinkst over at Fox News Channel. There is this, you know, we live in two sort of parallel universes. There's truth and there's fiction. There's reality and there are lies. And there's a lot of great lies that are told on a regular basis. We have to accept that. propaganda is part and parcel of our discourse. The left thinks that people like me are propagandists. I believe that people over at ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC are propagandists. I suspect you do too. But one of the big lies that has been told over and over again is that Trump, President Trump, is a cruel, evil, maniacal, narcissistic man. Now, Trey Yinkst, the foreign correspondent over at Fox News, has really never been described as very warm and fuzzy towards MAGA. I've seen some criticism that he's received over the past in his reporting. Others can judge that. I don't care one way or the other. But what I did notice... was his acknowledgment. Now, this is a news reporter. This is not an opinion guy, okay? This is a straight news reporter. He's just supposed to be in the field and reporting on the facts. He's a war correspondent. He's the guy that often has a helmet on and a flak jacket, and he's dodging the mortar shells, and is regarded as a really fine war correspondent. Listen to what Fox News reports. Channel's war correspondent said about President Trump and his schedule yesterday in Israel.
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What stood out to me is how much he actually cares about the region and the people here. This is the most powerful man in the world. And yet he purposefully delayed his schedule so he could spend more time with the families of hostages and hostages who had been freed in previous deals. that he supported. And when you think about what this means, it means that you have a leader who is looking toward the future with an understanding of the realities on the ground. And those realities are that Israel is a population of nearly 10 million people. The Gaza Strip is a population of more than 2 million people. And the president has a vision for a future of the Middle East that would not have all of the violence and war that has ravished the Middle East for the past two years, as we've seen inside the Gaza Strip with the death and destruction following a horrific massacre on October 7th. And so this really does feel like a moment of change for the Middle East, an opportunity for countries around the world to come together.
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Of course it does, but it also is showing a side of President Trump. Trey Yinks is exposing a side of Trump that people don't understand exists. He delayed his schedule so that he could spend plenty of time with the families of the hostages for as long as possible. I remember covering one of Trump's campaign rallies back in the day, and he delayed everybody because he wanted to go thank personally every single police officer and first responder who was assigned to duty that day. He went out of his way, not in front of any of the cameras, to shake every one of their hands and pose for pictures with them because that's the kind of guy he is. I wonder if this peace deal—and I asked this question yesterday— I'm going to ask it again today. I wonder if this deal is revealing the successful side of Donald Trump. Whatever you think of the guy, sharp elbows, mean tweets, combative personality, this is a guy who deeply cares. In fact, Greg Gutfeld yesterday on The Five, on Fox News, sort of echoed the theme that I was embarking on yesterday. And that is, where are the never Trumpers today? Where are the Trump haters? What about the no Kings protesters this weekend? Are any of them stopping to take stock and realize that maybe, just maybe, they were wrong about Donald Trump? And Greg takes it a step further. He wants to know if they're willing to apologize.
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I would love for never Trumpers to ask themselves about the possibility that the things that they hated about him are what make him successful. And perhaps you were your ego. was hurt by the fact that he believed that these great things could happen, and he was persistent and relentless and positive, and that just seemed so alien to you. If you think about it, where are his critics today? How small are they? Because I can't see them. Where is Bill Kristol? Where is Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, Gavin Newsom, Vindman? Where are these people? We should do a show on Fox Nation called Where Are They Now? Because I want to know, how do you look in the mirror when you see, after years of mocking people who had faith in this guy, people who risked a lot of stuff to support Trump that you made fun of, the George Takeis of the world that ridiculed him, where are they? Don't you owe the people that you mocked some kind of apology?
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And I don't necessarily believe that an apology is forthcoming or even expected. What I believe is, and I want to see if you agree with me, even quietly, even silently, these Trump haters have to acknowledge they have been largely wrong about the man. And I'm starting to agree with people like Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who said yesterday on Fox News, the people who will be in the streets this Saturday for the No Kings protest, they are simply people who have a blind rage, a deranged hatred for President Trump. Here's what he said.
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The optics of the No King's Day going to happen with the anti-Trump rally, which I'm kind of curious of what they're going to protest. Here you have a president that literally the world is praising because he's the president of peace. He's literally leading the world now, and yet they're still going to protest him because why? The economy is so bad? Because their streets are safer? Because he's bringing the hostages home? I mean, what are you really protesting against other than just your deranged hatreds towards President Trump?
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What are you protesting against other than your deranged hatred for President Trump? Isn't he right? I don't want to be cruel here. I want to have some grace. I want to have a little bit of decency. But I really do want to ask you, at 800-655-MIKE, as we kick off Tuesday here in the Relief Factor Studios, you tell me what drives you. Hundreds of thousands, probably millions of people to take to the streets Saturday to protest this man right after he achieved the unthinkable. Peace between a ceasefire and peace in the Middle East. Is it just a blind rage? Is it just a deranged hatred, as Mark Wayne Mullen put it yesterday? Or are we missing something here? Give me your take. Give me your thoughts on the people who are unwilling to give Trump the benefit of the doubt ever. 800-655-MIKE. Call or text. I hope you join us. 800-655-6453. Hey, flood the zone. You know me. I love loaded lines. I want to talk to Americans about this bizarre turn of events, this wonderful, joyful occasion to celebrate the release of the hostages, the return of the hostages, peace in the Middle East. And yet what Mark Wayne Mullen refers to as the deranged hatred of Trump. Is it going to get better? Is the tide going to turn or not? I want to find out what you think. Join me, 800-655-MIKE. You know how much I care about family, tradition, and the kind of meals that bring people together. That's why I love telling you about Tri-Tales Premium Beef. They're a fifth-generation ranching family down in Texas, real ranchers, not corporations, and they put together something really special, the Autumn Butcher Box. Now, this box is about more than just dinner. It's about gathering your loved ones, creating memories, and feeding your legacy with beef raised the right way. From their ranch to your table, it's a taste of tradition that reminds us what family meals are supposed to be. And when you order this Autumn Butcher Box between now and October 19th, you get a pound of steak meat as a free bonus. Tri-Tales also still has my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box just for you. Get one or both and see what beef is supposed to taste like for yourself. As always, you get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Don't wait. Order the Autumn Butcher Box or my Gallagher Patriot Box today. Go to trybeef.com slash Gallagher. Share in the legacy. Trybeef.com slash Gallagher. That's trybeef.com slash Gallagher.
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They're home. The hostages have been returned. The peace president has prevailed. Now, with a special edition of the Mike Gallagher Show, here's Mike.
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The joy of the hostages being released continues as we bring you into a Tuesday. And there's a lot of other developments that we need to share with you. Today is a National Day of Remembrance for our friend and colleague, Charlie Kirk. I'm in such a weird place right now. I'm feeling a desire to share some grace. I think it's really important to share grace. to exhibit a little bit of grace. Think about today's National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk. I mentioned it to my friend Mark Davis this morning in Dallas, and Mark was shocked that the United States Senate unanimously approved today being a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie. Mark said, unanimous? And of course I looked it up. Yes, every single person member of the U.S. Senate, Democrats and Republicans are honoring Charlie today. Now, look, I know they don't get a big medal for just sort of going along with something that is this decent and this tremendous. But, you know, Florida Senator Rick Scott introduced a resolution to make October 14, 2025, which would have been Charlie's 32nd birthday, it's his 32nd birthday today, a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk, calling his assassination a devastating loss. Senator Scott said in remarks, Charlie was a good man, a devout husband, father, friend. And every single Republican and Democrat candidate in the Senate, approved the resolution. See, we never talk about times where Republicans and Democrats come together. We're always at war with each other. This week, already, we've heard Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John Fetterman, prominent Democrats all, commend and congratulate and praise Trump for this historic peace deal. And I'm just not in a skeptical mood right now. I'm not even in a skeptical mood about Christiane Amanpour. Have you heard this debate? Now, what she said on CNN was pretty dreadful. It led to a huge outpouring of controversy when Christiane Amanpour, the chief international correspondent for CNN, said this.
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People who start to talk to the hostages who've only just been released will find that it will take a long, long time for them to recover physically, but also mentally. It's been a terrible, terrible two years for them because not only are they there, you know, they're probably being treated better than the average Gazan.
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They're probably being treated better than the average Gazan? What? Now, there was such shock and outrage at her casual observation that the men and women and children, those hostage, these brutalizations, the rape, I mean, I can't even physically describe some of the things that I learned when I went to Israel. shortly after the October 7th massacre, and I interviewed victims of the attack, and I saw the video that has not been widely available to the general public, I can't even put into words what some of the acts that they committed against these innocent men, women, and children, because it's so grotesque, and you would be so repulsed, you'd be mad at me for telling you. So I won't. I've got to respect some level of decorum and decency and know that there are men, women, and children listening and watching this show all over the country. So I'm not going to repeat it, but it's so bad, I can't put it into words. I can't say it on this show. And she had the audacity to say that the hostages were treated better than the average person living in Gaza. Now, Here's the point about grace, redemption, maybe some forgiveness. After the outcry over her remarks, she issued an apology. Here's what Christiane Amanpour said.
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Earlier live on air, I spoke about what a day of real joy this is for Israeli families whose loved ones are finally being returned from two years of horrific Hamas captivity and for civilians in Gaza who finally had a reprieve from two years of brutal and deadly war. I noted that for the hostages who are finally home, it'll take a long time for them to recover mentally and physically. But I regret also saying that they might have been treated better than many Gazans because Hamas used these hostages as pawns and bargaining chips. But that was insensitive and it was wrong. From speaking to many former hostages and their families, like everyone, I've been horrified at what Hamas has subjected them to over two long years.
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Now, in a normal time, I think most people would say, good, good for you. You apologized for that awful comment. Let's turn the page and move on. But these are not normal times. And I witnessed a whole bunch of people on my side, people I like, who continued to go scorched earth, on that CNN correspondent. You're reading from a teleprompter. You were forced to say that. You don't mean that apology. You're a lunatic, radical leftist, and you had no business saying that in the first place, and you're still scum. I mean, a lot of that came from people that I really like. I'm not going to mention names because I don't want to pick fights with people on my side of the aisle. But the lack of grace... in this country today, astounds me. Grace is a concept that I not only struggle with, but I am fascinated by. I've shared with you the longtime correspondence I've had for years now with a never-Trumper. And he and I have kind of lost contact over the last year or two. I think it's even too much for him. I've lost friends over Trump. I get it. You have too. You've probably had fissures within your own family. It's a weird time. It's a strange time for politics. But I often have said to that friend of mine, why don't you exhibit any grace towards Trump? You're all hung up on what he said with Access Hollywood or what he did in the past or what he said on the Howard Stern Show. You don't like his tweets. You don't like who he is. But why don't you ever give him any grace? Why can't you extend the grace and the compassion that you think he should have more of? And they can't answer that because there's zero grace. There's zero empathy for anything that Trump or his supporters stand for. That's who these people are on the left. And I would submit to you that the only way anything is going to get better is if we try to meet each other somewhat. We'll never agree on core fundamental principles and issues. I understand that. But when I saw Christiane Amanpour's apology, I was relieved. And I thought, good. Good for her. I don't care that she's reading from a teleprompter. People on TV read everything off a teleprompter. Who cares that it's a teleprompter? How does anybody know that management forced her to apologize? How do you not know that she apologized because she said the wrong thing? And she knows she went too far. I get that she's a leftist. I appreciate that you're going to say she is who she is. But when somebody does the right thing, let them. When somebody corrects something they did, give them a little bit of grace. And to be very blunt, I was really disappointed in watching the way a lot of people, again, who I like, some of whom are friends of mine, just continued to eviscerate her even after her apology. I think that's a problem. I think it's a problem on our side. I don't know what to make of their side. Look, we're going to see millions of people this Saturday marching around after this historic peace deal complaining about the peacemaker. We're going to see people banging pots and pans. We're going to see boomers in the streets of America objecting to the peace president. The same people who screamed free Palestine, who now get what they wanted, are going to bang pots and pans and march around and make fools of themselves because of their blind hatred for one man. They'll never give him credit. They'll never give him grace. They'll never begin to understand him. But we shouldn't be like them. We shouldn't act like they do. We should have some compassion and some grace and some humbleness in our hearts. I believe, and you want to go biblical here, and I'm not equipped to do this, But I truly believe as a Christian that if someone admits to making a mistake and they ask for forgiveness, then we should accept their apology and forgive them and move on. Maybe you think I'm being too Pollyanna. I don't know. Let's find out. Let me turn it over to you here in the Relief Factor studios. I'm back home again in the upstate of South Carolina in the studios of 98.9 WORD, the voice of the Carolinas. We've got a big client appreciation event this afternoon. I'm looking forward to catching up with Tara and Charlie and Bill and Joey and Mark and Steve and the gang and shaking the hands of the many clients who make WORD possible here in the upstate. And I'm... kind of in a joyful spirit, but maybe you think I'm being too soft here. Maybe you don't agree. You heard that apology. Are you going to continue to go scorched earth on Christiane Amanpour because of the mistake she made? Or do you accept her apology? Do you forgive somebody who says they're sorry? I think we've got to, we're forgetting grace. Grace. And we're doing it because we're understandably angry, we're frustrated, we're anxious, we're mad at each other. People are mad all the time. I love the line that, I think it was Reagan who said, I'm a conservative, but I'm just not mad about it. People are angry every day. And it's too much. And it starts with us. We can't expect the boomers who are going to be banging pots and pans this weekend to back off. They're going to do what they do. But it starts with us. It starts in here, in our heart. It starts with ourselves. I wonder if we're going to accept the challenge. What do you think? 800-655-MIKE, 19 past the hour. Come join us here on the Mike Gallagher Show. I want you to flood my phone lines with a conversation about that sense of grace, that spirit of forgiveness, that understanding that grace does matter. We can't change anybody else, but we can change ourselves. And I think the Christiane Amanpour case is an example of a lot of people on our side failing to show that kind of grace. Maybe I'm wrong. Let's find out. Tell me what you think. 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. 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You talked about how you hope to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven. How does this help? Does this help?
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You know, I'm being a little cute. I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly in Air Force One. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven. But I've made life a lot better for a lot of people.
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In the Relief Factor studios on Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
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President Trump's remarks aboard Air Force One created some controversy. I was joking around, of course. I don't think there's anything going to get me into heaven. Well, no acts or works are going to get you into heaven. There is something that will get you into heaven. A lot of people sort of playfully suggested President Trump needs better spiritual advisors. But that's President Trump being President Trump. You know, I know why I'm in this sort of mood today, and I think there needs to be some grace extended when there's been a shortage of it. I'm thinking a lot about Erica Kirk today on this National Day of Remembrance for Charlie. It would have been his 32nd birthday. 32 years young. And some monster decided to silence him forever. And Charlie's voice will not be silenced. His message will never, ever be silenced. He's getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom today posthumously. Highest civilian honor. Erica will be there. And remember, when we talk about forgiveness, she forgave the man who murdered her husband. She forgave the man who killed the father of her children. That's what grace looks like. And Turning Point USA put out a video clip that I want to share with you. After we'll play a little bit of it here on the show, we'll make it available through our MyPillow text line. It's powerful. It's beautiful. There's some great images of Charlie and Erica and the kids. And all of it is in Erica's own words.
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When you make that covenant with the Lord on that altar, don't let that fire burn out from the altar. That love is so special and so powerful. You married your soulmate. You married the person who God made for you. He was the perfect father. He was the perfect husband. Charlie always believed that God's design for marriage in the family was absolutely amazing, and it is. It is, and it was the greatest joy of his life. And over and over, he would tell all these young people to come and find their future spouse, become wives and husbands and parents. And the reason why is because he wanted you all to experience what he had and still has. He wanted everyone to bring heaven into this earth through love and joy that comes from raising a family. It's beautiful.
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This video is beautiful. It's a little hard to watch because it's still so fresh. The pain of his assassination is still incredibly raw. the images of Charlie on that video and Erica and the kids are so beautiful. Again, it's hard to watch, but it's also inspirational. Because what those two people had in too brief a period of time was beautiful. And I get that from people who knew them both very, very well. People in their closest circle. And it makes his loss even more devastating. But I keep thinking about her standing there And I was so blessed to be in that arena in Phoenix that day for his memorial. And Erica said, I forgive him. I forgive that young man. That 22-year-old who killed Charlie is the kind of guy that Charlie was trying to reach. Charlie's message, you know, and Erica referenced that. Find your person. Find a spouse. Find your husband or wife. Make babies. Bring children into the world. Seek joy and happiness in God. And they hated him for that. They hated him. That demented 22-year-old hated Charlie for that message because evil hates good. Evil despises good. That video, incidentally, it goes longer. There's a lot of beautiful video images of the Kirk family. If you want us to send that back to you, courtesy of the MyPillow text line, just text the keyword Charlie to 800-655-MIKE. That's 800-655-6453. We'll send you back. That video clip to your smartphone or wherever you get your calls. Standard text messaging rates may apply. Please never text and drive. But it's a beautiful thing to watch. It's about two, two and a half minutes long. Just text the keyword Charlie to 800-655-6453. And we will send that clip back to you. And again, it'll bring a tear to your eye, but it will also fill you with some appreciation. over the beauty of that young man's life and that marriage. It breaks my heart to consider that she's a widow at her age. It hurts my heart. I had somebody a couple weeks after my Denise died, somebody said to me, you're too young to be a widower. And I always remembered him saying that and thinking, yeah, it's kind of weird. It's a strange place to be to lose your spouse. But over years, I've come to treasure every one of the memories that we made together, every moment. I think now of such warmth and fondness over the time that I had with her. And I know that Erica will get there someday. It takes a long time. It takes a long time. It's not easy. It's a terrible journey, and my heart is shattered. I'm gutted knowing that Erica didn't have a chance to say goodbye, at least with, in my case, we were able to say goodbye. You know, she was sick, and we knew what was coming. Anyway, I'm just in kind of that philosophical mood today. Thanks for indulging me. I hope you're okay with it. We've got a lot of breaking news to cover. I want to share with you a beautiful moment last night on CNN, of all places, when our colleague, our Salem Radio Network colleague, Scott Jennings, did something pretty ceremonial that was powerful. I'll share that with you here in just a moment. I also want to share with you the great news about MyPillow because that text line that gives me such great feedback, instant feedback, sponsored by MyPillow. And I appreciate so much what MyPillow offers you. Slippers. I forgot my MySlippers on my trip here to South Carolina. I've got to leave a pair here with Joey and Peg. Those slippers are unbelievable. And I'm not just saying that. I'm not reading copy here. I'm not pulling a teleprompter read here. The MySlippers are magnificent, and they're normally like over $100 a pair, and they're worth every penny of that. But for a limited time, promo code MikeG, $39.98. These slippers have like a memory foam, moccasins, slip-on style. You can wear them indoors, outdoors. I wear them to take out the trash. Joey and Peg wear theirs to take the dogs out. Just an incredible product from Mike Lindell and MyPillow. The Giza Dream Sheets are the smoothest, luxurious, five-star rated hotel kind of sheets. You can get them for 50% off. And for a limited time, the six-piece bath towel set. These are two bath towels, hand towels, washcloths. $39.98. They're normally $69.98. So do yourself a favor. Make it a MyPillow Tuesday. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for that Mike Gallagher box. The Mike Gallagher, Mike Lindell box. It says Mike Gallagher Specials. Click on that square, and then when you place your order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Promo code MikeG. Sing along with me. Who?
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I would love for never Trumpers to ask themselves about the possibility that the things that they hated about him are what make him successful. And perhaps you were, your ego was, was hurt by the fact that he believed that these great things could happen, and he was persistent and relentless and positive, and that just seemed so alien to you. If you think about it, where are his critics today? How small are they? Because I can't see them. Where is Bill Kristol? Where is Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, Gavin Newsom, Vindman? Where are these people? We should do a show on Fox Nation called Where Are They Now? Because I want to know, how do you look in the mirror when you see, after years of mocking people who had faith in this guy, people who risked a lot of stuff to support Trump that you made fun of, the George Takeis of the world that ridiculed him, where are they? Don't you owe the people that you mocked some kind of apology?
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There we go again with that concept of grace. Will they ever give us grace? I don't know. Maybe some, maybe many. But as we see people take to the streets Saturday with this stupid, moronic, useless, no-kings protest, all you can do is shake your head at them because they're lost. They got nothing. You know what Trump's going to do Friday? He's going to host the Ukrainian president, Zelensky. He's now set his sights on trying to achieve peace between Ukraine and Russia. So after his big Middle East victory, now he sets his sights on peace in Ukraine. If he achieves that, then what are the Never Trumpers going to say? Then what are the Haters going to do. Greg is right. They're just so small right now. And I don't I'm not trying to spike the football here and make them, you know, I hate to vilify them. But where are they now? Banging pots and pans and screaming about what a fascist he is because he wants cities like Chicago to have less crime. Calling him a dictator because he wants federal troops to help with law enforcement in crime-ravaged cities. Oh, what a terrible thing to do. Guarantee you the crime victims in Chicago appreciate it. I can promise you the crime victims in Los Angeles or Baltimore or Oakland or New York, they appreciate it. But then again, the left never thinks too much about crime victims, do they? They always worry about the criminals. Every single day, it's a joy to remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by MyPillow. As you know, our friend Mike Lindell, big legal victory last week. He's been in a ton of hot water, as you know, because he believes in election integrity. Of course, due to his friendship with President Trump. Well, last week, there was a $5 million vote. judgment against Mike that was overturned by the courts. Good news for MyPillow. So you keep praying for MyPillow, and you keep supporting this great American company. The premium MyPillow, limited time, great price, $18.98. If you go to MyPillow.com, this pillow is a godsend. Look, I bring the MyPillow products with me when I'm on the road. Here at the hotel in Washington State, I've got the MySlippers with me, those unbelievable slippers, because I pat around in the hotel room. I don't know what's on that rug. I bring the MyPillow with me. I roll it up into the suitcase. I've even got my MyPillow loungewear. Tons of great products. If you haven't been to the site in a while, go check it out. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. Okay. You're going to save big. The slippers, the doggy beds, and the Giza dream sheets. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Like we love to sing.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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Saw a headline today that the squad is strangely silent about the Trump peace deal in the Middle East. You do know how much we're lied to, right? You understand that it's all an illusion. All these leftist protesters, free Palestine. Israel's committing a genocide. Well, it ended. So you'd think the happiest people in the world would be Ilhan Omar or Ayanna Pressley or AOC or Zoran Mamdani. You know what Zoran's wife is doing? Publicly mourning the death of of a pro-Hamas terrorist-loving sympathizer. Some character named FAFO got killed. There's such an illusion here. These are a bunch of phonies. You understand the very first people who would be screaming to the heavens about how great this peace deal would be are the ones who were screaming about the genocide. Because it's over. There's peace between Israel and Hamas. Palestinians are pouring back into Gaza. Trump is promising money will be pouring into Gaza to rebuild. And yes, there are reports that Hamas is committing mass executions of dissidents. right now in Gaza. And that's deeply problematic. But the whole idea that the squad, that the radical left wanted peace in the Middle East, if they did, if they truly did, they'd be the loudest in congratulating the United States on this historic achievement. They didn't mean it. They never meant it. It's like the empty promise of trying to fight crime in big cities. It's like promising we don't want crime in Chicago or Baltimore or Cleveland or Detroit. Well, if you don't want crime, why would you reject Trump's efforts to send in troops to help police high crime neighborhoods? They don't want crime to be erased. They don't want crime reduced. They want the chaos. They want the destruction. They want the agony. They're miserable people who wallow in misery. That's their whole DNA. It's in their DNA. They're going to march around Saturday banging pots and pans. Now, they won't be able to scream about Israel's genocide Saturday at the big No Kings protest. But they can certainly complain about efforts to reduce crime in America's cities. But they're not truthful. They're not who they say they are. You think Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib are lovers of peace? Well, if you love peace, you love what Trump accomplished this week. It goes way beyond just hating on Trump. They would be able to qualify, well, we don't like Trump, but at least he got the deal done, and it's wonderful. Praise Allah, they got the genocide over. They ended the genocide. They're not saying a word. It's because they're liars. And the lies go up and down the spectrum. Look at this goofy woman from The View. Back in December, here's what Alyssa Farrah Griffin, I don't know her. I don't care. I wouldn't watch The View if you held me hostage if I was under duress. I would absolutely not watch. Watch 30 seconds of that drivel. The only time I ever hear about The View is when my team gives me a clip or two. And here's a clip that you might find interesting. This is way back in December on ABC's The View.
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If he gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I will wear a MAGA hat for one day on the show and say, thank you for doing it. She'll knock it right off my head. You have to be able to cheer for wins when they happen and then call out relentlessly the wrongdoing.
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I am told that yesterday when The View aired, she didn't wear a red MAGA hat. Now, when you make a promise like that, you got to do it, right? Well, you do it if you're truthful. You do it if you possess integrity. She never meant it. And if she kind of did mean it in the moment last December, she never thought Trump could accomplish it. So he did. And now she won't. I could be wrong. Maybe she'll be shamed into wearing it. I saw Don Jr. posted it on social media last night. Come on, Alyssa, step up. You said if you freed the hostages, you'd wear your red MAGA hat. And you know Whoopi and Joy and all the rest of those miserable shrews are behind the scenes saying, don't you dare. Don't you dare. You'll be shamed forever if you wear it. Don't you dare. There'll be pictures of you from now to the end of time wearing a MAGA hat. You can't possibly do that. It's because they don't tell the truth. They just don't. They didn't want peace. They didn't want a resolution. They don't want peace between Russia and Ukraine. They don't want crime reduced in our city's neighborhoods. They wallow in victimhood, and they crave the despair and the destruction. The Democrats are a party of destruction and political violence. That's where we are now in October of 2025. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. We're in the Relief Factor Studios in the upstate of South Carolina. Great to have you here for another episode. I hope you can join us. I want you to hear... and see what Scott Jennings did last night on CNN. Scott, for two years, has worn a yellow ribbon on his lapel of his suit coat. The yellow ribbon, of course, signifying hoping, praying, longing, yearning for the return of the hostages. This is what Scott did last night on that panel with Abby Phillips that he has to suffer through nightly on CNN.
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I've been wearing this pin for two straight years waiting for these hostages to come home. And I've been waiting to take it off. And I'm going to take it off tonight because the 20 people came out. And I met some of the families earlier this year, and I've been following their stories quite closely. And I'm going to replace it. With an American pin, American flag pin, because in my opinion, this was a huge victory for the American people, led by our president. But it was only through the power and the force of will of the president of the United States that 20 people returned to their families, that we have the beginnings of the possibility of a peaceful era in the Middle East, and that maybe a future can be had by millions upon millions of people in a place where it's sometimes hard to visualize a future.
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What a moment. What a big moment. In fact, even the panel that normally yells and jumps on his every word and tries to interrupt everything he says, even they were stunned into silence as he removed that yellow ribbon pin and replaced it with an American flag. So proud to call Scott Jennings my friend and our Salem News, our Salem Radio Network colleague. Wow.
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Mike Gallagher.
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In this enlightening episode, host Rick Hughes delves into the intricate design of the human spirit, soul, and body according to biblical scripture. Through a detailed examination of 1 Thessalonians, Rick identifies the commands and exhortations vital for spiritual growth and community unity. Explore the critical importance of understanding your trichotomous nature and uncover the true essence of your soul—a living, breathing reflection of God’s creation. Listeners are invited to revisit the promises and requisites of a soul fully aligned with God’s will. Rick breaks down common misconceptions, guiding you away from worldly instincts and towards spiritual insight and wisdom. This episode serves as a pivotal reminder of the choices we make that define our spiritual journey. Engage in the significant dialogue concerning the fragility of today's spiritual and national landscape. Learn how spiritual renewal starts within, influencing not just personal salvation but also the moral fabric of our nation. Join us as we explore how being part of God’s invisible pivot can foster unity and resilience against the ever-looming adversities of societal fracturing.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, stay with me. It won't be long, just 30 minutes, but it's a lot of motivation, inspiration, education, and no manipulation. No con games, no collecting money, no selling you anything, not trying to get you to join it up, fess it up, give it up. We just would like for you to listen, listen up as I try to verify and identify God's plan for your life. If I'm able to do that and you would like to orient and adjust to the plan, you have the free will, the freedom to do that. It's my prayer that you will. The flood line's been coming to you now for 21 years and it's been an amazing time. God's given me the privilege to do this, but I'd like to tell you we got a book that we've revised. It's one of our older books called Understanding Your Soul, and we're going to redo that book, and we're coming out with it in a new format. It should be available by Thanksgiving. So if you'd like to get a copy of it, let us know through the website, rick at rickhughesministries.org, rick at rickhughesministries.org. If you call us, you can always do that. But if you do leave a voicemail, I insist that you speak slowly and distinctly so we can understand what your address is and what you're saying. So many voicemails I get, we can't understand people because it's way too fast. So slow it down very distinctly and give us your name and address, and we'll get that book to you if you want it, because we're going to talk about your soul today. That's really basically what the message is about, dealing with the soul. We all know about that. In 1 Thessalonians 5, 23, here's our verse we want to key on. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly I pray, God, your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless until the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Did you get that? Spirit, soul, and body be preserved. In this particular passage, to give you some background why Paul said what he did, he's just given a series of commands to the royal family there at the church in Thessalonica. beginning on 1 Thessalonians 5, 11, where he said, comfort one another. And then he said, edify each other. And then in verse 12, he states that they should recognize those who labor among them and recognize them with personal love of the work they do. Those are the people that are teaching the word of God, the pastor teachers. In verse 14, we find four different exhortations that are significant in any local congregation. Here's what they are. He said, first, warn those who are causing trouble. Then he said, encourage the faint-hearted. Then he said, support the weak. Then he said, be patient towards all men. I really need to take this verse apart for you, and we're going to do that at a later time, I promise you. In verses 15 through 22, we find some more series of mandates. See that nobody render evil for evil, unto any man, but every one follow that which is good, both among yourselves and to all men. And then he said, rejoice evermore. Then he said, pray without ceasing. Then he said, in everything give thanks. I mean, I can't believe I need to discover this whole thing where you can explain what each one of these words are. 1 Thessalonians 5, 19, quench not the spirit of God. Verse 20, despise not prophesying. Verse 21, prove all things. Hold fast that which is good. And 22, abstain from all appearances of evil. That's 1 Thessalonians 5, beginning of verse 11, going through verse 22. And that's what I want to come back to in the next show or two and break that down for you, and hopefully you'll enjoy that. But as we get near the end of this letter, we find Paul's prayer for those which I read to you earlier. And he said, I pray that the very God of peace sanctify you wholly in your spirit, soul, and body. Paul's prayer, he's recognizing that there are three parts that every believer has. He brought it up. Listen again, I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved, blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The word spirit is the word pneuma, and that's what you have if you're a Christian. You have a living human spirit, indwelled by God the Holy Spirit. Without being saved, you have a dead spirit. You're spiritually dead. And it's impossible to have fellowship with God unless you're born again. I'll show you that in just a minute. And these people have a living human spirit and dwelled by God, the Holy Spirit, They are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. And then he said the word and your soul, psuche, psuche is the Greek word for it, psuche, your soul. And then he said your body. Your body is the Greek word soma. So as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, you have three parts. The fancy word is your trichotomous, trichotomous. That means you have three distinct parts. The unbeliever is not trichotomous, he's dichotomous, he only has two parts. He has a body, he has a soul, but he does not have a living human spirit. So the non-Christian is minus the human spirit, And thus, that's why he cannot, will not ever have fellowship with God. Listen to John 4, 24. God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. So how are they going to worship God if they don't have a living human spirit? They can't do it. God is a spirit, and those that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. In Matthew 10, 28, we find a verse that says, Fear not them which can kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, the psuche, but rather feel him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. You know, whenever an airliner declares an emergency to the tower, the air traffic controller will always ask questions about how much fuel they have on board. And interesting enough, he will say this. He will say, how many souls on board? How many souls on board? An air traffic controller asks for souls on board in an emergency to quickly get the total number of living people on an aircraft in case there needs to be a rescue or recovery efforts. And that includes passengers, crew, even infants. The maritime tradition provides a vital, concise piece of information for responders without needing a separate count of passengers, crew, and others. In other words, there were three pilots and two this and one that. No, just how many totally. It also carries a very sobering, respectful tone for a potentially very grave situation. So if this thing crashes and if it goes into the ground, how many souls on board? It's clear now that God made you a living soul. You might want to pinch yourself to find out if you're still alive, but God made you a living soul. It's also clear that God created you a living body. The Bible teaches that God, by his own design, created your body from the dust of the earth, and he gave you life by breathing the breath of life into you and making you a living soul. God's creation of your body is a deliberate and good act, and it's meant to reflect his image so that you can serve him as a unique individual. In Genesis 2, 7, we find this verified. And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. And man became a living soul. There it is. God created your soul. Living soul. And you might have heard me say in past references, the soul will never die. The body will die, but the soul will never die. While it's evident there are many different body types, what is also true is that every body houses a living soul. In fact, the real you is invisible since the soul is not observable to mankind. Only God can see your soul. So it appears that we all have the same soul format though. We have mentality, which God created to give us the ability to think, logic, reason, comprehend. He gave us free will, which is called volition, we can choose. And we also possess a conscience and a self-consciousness. This is why the scriptures tell us that the real person is identified not by what he looks like, but by what he thinks. Proverbs 23, 7, For as he thinketh in his heart, so he is. Did you know one of Satan's objectives is to capture your thoughts? In Proverbs 4, 23, Keep your heart with all diligence, for out of it are the issues of life. One of the main objectives of a new Christian is to change the way he thinks. And this involves a total renovation of the mentality of the soul. Forget not this. Don't forget the soul has mentality. The soul has volition. The soul has a conscience and a self-consciousness. So what does the Bible say we have to change the way we think after we get saved? In Romans 12, two and three, don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so that you may prove what is good and acceptable and perfect will of God. For I say through the grace given unto me to every man that's among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly according as God has dealt to every one of that man the measure of faith. This particular passage I just read to you tells us that a spiritually wise soul does not think like the world thinks. It's a call for you to stay out of cosmic indoctrination and rather to renovate your thoughts in order that we can understand and obey God's will for our lives. The enemy that we face most often is our very own arrogance, such as thinking that we know what's best for our lives. I've seen that many, many times. Even my children, I know what's best for my life, not what the Bible says. Daddy, I know what's best. And when you do that and justify in your own lustful desires, you're in trouble. So the enemy most often is your own arrogance, thinking that you know more than what God knows. Even though God may tell you don't do a certain thing, you do it anyhow because you justify why it's okay. I want you to understand how important it is that you be careful what you feed into your soul's mentality. I just had some lunch. I had a little lasagna, leftover lasagna my wife had. And I enjoyed it. But you have to be careful what you put in your stomach, yes, but you've got to be really careful what you put in your soul's mentality. Notice the secret to having peace in your soul, and you might not realize this, but it's related to what you think. In Isaiah 26 three, you will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind, that's the mentality of the soul, whose mind is stayed on you, thee, because he trusts in you, that's faith rest. So there's the secret to having peace in your life. Faith rest, keeping your mind on the word of God. The mentality of the soul must be programmed to overcome the sin nature's appeal. The natural behavior of the sin nature is to allow the mentality of your soul to justify you being disobedient, not only to man's laws, but to God's laws. But whenever an individual accepts Christ as their Savior, interestingly enough, their past history does not automatically disappear. Those old thoughts, those old desires that you did before you got saved, they must be contained by learning to think differently. Isaiah 43, 18, remember not the former things, neither consider the things of old. So we can always ask the Holy Spirit to make us aware of any sin that's going unnoticed in our life. It's possible that you got involved in something you don't even realize is sin sometimes. In Psalm 139, verse 23, search me, O God, and know my heart. Try me and know my thoughts. And that means look into my soul, see what I'm thinking, and see if there's any wicked way in me and lead me in the way everlasting. The Bible refers to the mentality of the soul as your heart, as well as your mind. There's a couple of different words here. It's in the heart of man that sin takes root. It's in your heart that sin takes root. Mark 7, 21, for from without, out of the heart, out of the heart of men proceeds evil thoughts, adultery, fornication, murder, theft, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, and foolishness. It all comes out of the heart. The other word for that word heart is the Greek word cardia, K-A-R-D-I-A. That's the English word heart. In medicine, we use the word cardiac or cardiology. That's from the word heart. So actually, the scriptures identify the mentality of our soul with two different type words. One word is the word nous, N-O-U-S. The other is the word heart, K-A-R-D-I-A. The nous refers to the intellect that initiates our thoughts and our attitudes. In Romans 7.23, but I see another law in my members, warring against the laws of my mind, bringing me into captivity to the law of sin, which is in my members. In other words, I've got a sin nature. And so my sin nature is trying to take control of what I think is what he's saying. It's clear from Philippians 2.5 we're to think in our minds exactly the same way that Jesus Christ thought in his mind. That's in Philippians 2.5. Let this same type of thinking, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. So the victory over sin in your life is not in the body, but rather in the mind. Comprehending what's taking place in your life requires you understanding what you're dealing with. It's easy to be misled if you don't have some discernment, which is another way of saying spiritual insight. That's what the Bible calls wisdom. Unbelievers, those who have not believed in Christ, are at a disadvantage in the cosmic conflict since their minds are empty. They have no basis to make a correct decision. In Ephesians 4, 17, this I say therefore in testifying the Lord that you do not walk, that's live, don't live like Gentiles live in the vanity of their mind. That word vanity in the original language is pronounced mataotes, and it actually means an emptiness, emptiness. So referring to a soul void, get that word soul void. A soul void is actually a vacuum where the outside pressure is greater than the inside pressure. My daughter one time came home and showed me a science experiment where she took a boiled egg that she had peeled and took a match and dropped it down a Coke bottle and put the boiled egg over the mouth of the Coke. When the match burned up all of the oxygen in the bottle, it was like an invisible finger pushed that egg down through that bottleneck of that Coke that popped in the bottle. That's the outside pressure being greater than the inside pressure. So this is what you have to remember. A soul void is a vacuum in your soul because there's no soul resistance. And the individual has no chance to overcome whatever the cosmic system throws at him. Then we get into soul slavery. And that's a result of ignoring God's advantages and selling yourself into the cosmic system where you become a victim of your own choices, not a victim of your circumstances. Hosea 8, 7 says, they have sown to the wind and they will reap the whirlwind. When God created us, he gave us a soul. And I'm not talking about the rhythm and the blues and the dance and all that sort of stuff. He gave you a soul, which means you have the ability to think and comprehend. Again, he gave you volition, which means he lets you make your decisions. You are the choice maker. Do you know what your choices are? That's a legitimate question I want to ask you today. Do you know what your choices are? I can tell you your first choice is to receive Christ as your Savior. It's the most important decision you'll ever make. What thank you of Christ? Is he or is he not the son of God? Did he or did he not go to the cross and pay for your sins? Will you or will you not believe it and receive him as your savior? You gotta remember that. That's the first and most important thing, okay? When God created you, he gave you that soul. the ability to comprehend, the ability to choose. The second great decision in your soul is your choice to learn what God has provided for you because you're living behind enemy lines in the devil's world. So you need to understand your position in Christ and understand your enemies, and that's critical if you hope to glorify God both in time and eternity. We know we got three enemies, the world, the flesh, and the devil. And if you're going to win this war, you've got to be able to overcome what they throw at you. So listen to what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 1.10. I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no division among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and the same judgment. Did you get that? What he's telling them is you're fractured in your soul in your congregation. Your congregation has a soul fracture. You're not all speaking the same thing. There's divisions. Some of you on this side of the park and some of you on the other side of the park. But the Bible says a Christian needs to be perfectly joined together in the same mind. We need to have the same thought content. What is that? It's the mind of Christ. This simply means that unless they're all on the same page mentally, there would be no hope of keeping that church bound together. And by the way, this is one way Satan can destroy a local congregation, by getting people into conflicting viewpoints. This is also exactly how Satan fractures a nation such as the United States of America. And I think we can see that in our current history, We definitely have a fractured nation. We don't all speak the same thing, and there are certainly divisions among us since we don't all think the same things. The number one national problem in our country is a fractured soul. What used to be considered evil is now considered good, and what used to be thought of as good is now considered evil. Social issues are now more prominent than spiritual issues. Do you hear that? Social issues are now more prominent than spiritual issues. The word of God is ignored in many different households and sometimes even in churches. And different thinking leads to different agendas. Even more disturbing is that many pastors today are now performers using antics that are just absolutely disgusting. You are the only one who can reverse the trend in this nation. You are the only one to patch up the crack in our soul in the nation. Not by electing a certain individual, that's not the answer, but by electing to take your very own spiritual life to the highest level possible. Then and only then will you be able to consider that you are part of the invisible pivot that God's going to use to deliver this nation from what's coming. That what's coming is a battle for the soul of America. And it's just starting. I promise you, it's just starting. Praise God for those in leadership who understand what I'm talking about. Hosea says, who is wise? Hosea 14.9. Who is wise? And who shall understand these things? Prudent is he that knows them, for the ways of the Lord are right, and the just shall walk in them, but the transgressors shall fall therein. Are you one of the wise people that God's speaking about there? That's my thought for you today. Do you have enough doctrine in your soul to determine what is right and what is wrong? Have you been lured into some sort of emotional Christianity where you believe that if you just go to church and get the joy, joy, joy down in your heart that you're having a worshiping experience? Unless you're learning and applying God's word in your life, you're going to have a stunted soul, a stunted soul. Your soul's never gonna grow up. Because your soul was designed by God to have information. That's what your conscience is about, where you store your norms and standards. You're supposed to have norms and standards, starting with your parents, where they teach you don't do this and don't do that. Brush your teeth, comb your hair, take a bath. Don't act like that, don't say that. Your parents are giving you norms and standards. If you don't get that, then you grow up just a uncontrollable soul, a person that has no norms and standards, a person that'll do whatever they want to do and think they get away with it. That's what's happening in America today. We have a fractured congregation of people in this nation. whose soul has no norms and standards because it's been eaten by scar tissue. Scar tissue means their hearts are hard. There are people in this country that'll kill you and not think twice about it, laugh about it, drive by in a car, shoot a bunch of bullets out of the car, spray gunfire everywhere and kill. It doesn't make any difference who they kill. That's a bad soul. We have to get that changed. Only one way to do it, not elect a certain politician, not send in the military. There's got to be a soul revival. There's got to be a soul awakening. There's got to be a changing of the soul for America. That has to happen with you, starts with you. As goes your spiritual life, so goes the future of this country. So how is your soul today? Do you have a bitter soul? Do you have an embattled soul? Do you have a wounded soul? Or are you growing in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? Do you have a strong soul? Do you have doctrine in your soul? Do you have the filling of the Holy Spirit? Do you understand that? And do you understand the call to the gospel and how to share it with other individuals? That's what we're going to need. That's what you must do. You must be that individual who God uses to heal the fractured soul of America. And you must be prepared to do whatever it takes. Don't be dumb. Don't be stupid. But be faithful. Be faithful. And the Lord will guide you. He will direct your path. He will show you what he wants you to do and how he wants you to do it. But remember this, God uses prepared people. He doesn't use idiots. And if you think you can make it up, you can't make up God's plan. If you don't know it, he's not going to use you. He doesn't need you confusing the issue. He doesn't need you telling somebody in order to get saved, you got to quit smoking. In order to get saved, you got to repent of all your sins. That's crazy. You can't do that. It's impossible. Besides that, the word repent means to change your mind, not feel sorry about what you've done. You can tell God you're not gonna sin again, but you will, because you have a genetically formed sin nature. So you've got to understand what the Bible teaches, and then teach it correctly, give it correctly, and let your friends know, let your neighbors know that God loves them, he has a wonderful plan for their life, and that plan starts with them believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. That's the only thing that will salvage this nation. That's the only thing that will put together this fractured nation. is the Word of God. So I hope you're listening. I pray you're paying attention. And I pray you'll come back next week, same time, same time. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
