Join Dana Lash as she takes a deep dive into the most absurd yet true stories from Florida, where crime seems to take on a bizarre life of its own. From the antics of Florida Man to the peculiar situation with LA firefighters, this episode combines wit and a critical look at current social dynamics, shedding light on conversations many avoid. We question how identity and inclusion play into everyday heroes and dive into an enlightening discussion on diversity, equity, and what it means for emergency services.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So I have two. This is crazy. So in this shoplifting scheme, I had a listener that sent this to me, and they got my attention by going, uh-oh, D. Lash, clean up on Isle Brown. It's from the Miami Herald. And there's also a story from Fox 13. They got the CCTV footage. Deputies are searching for a couple that are accused of stealing $500 of items from a dollar store. The suspect, the woman, intentionally defecated on the store's floor as a way to distract while the man she was with began to steal everything. Polk County deputies are investigating. They said that Ms. Dookie is on the run after a messy burglary at the Mulberry Family Dollar Store. So they walked in. He walked around the store, gathered $500 worth of products like Gain Tide, Clorox. And while he was getting that, the woman distracted everybody by doosing on the floor. And an employee had to clean up the mess she made. It's a poo and run. How do you not find them? How do you... I mean, go into a dollar store. You... Okay. Something is wrong with you. If you're like, okay, here's my idea on how to steal from Family Dollar. I'm going to go and poop on the floor. And you can just grab everything, throw it in a basket, and let's run.
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Yeah, that whole last part... I made a question. That whole last part would have worked fine without the first part. Well... That whole needing to poop on the floor isn't a need.
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But how do you... Okay. Okay. How much time do we have here? I don't like public restrooms. I hate them. I'll explore before I have to use them. It's a thing. It might be TMI. But my question is, how does a woman... How do you just do that in public, like theatrically? You just do something on the floor like that. I know it's part of your shoplifting scheme, but how do you get to the point where you're like, okay, I'm saving it up. I'm going to go and dookie on the floor the family dollar.
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Seems like you have to plan your eating 12 plus hours in advance.
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That has to be... That's like... That has to be timed out. I don't know. Oh, gosh. A Florida man went on a smash and grab at a St. Pete Publix. Oh, well, at least he didn't dookie in the floor. He went on a string of smash and grab burglaries. Corey Kendrick, 11 vehicles stealing the items inside. They think he's responsible for other other thefts and that more charges could be coming. But apparently he did not care about any of the videos as he's just on camera running through smashing everything like full view. Great CCTV footage of him. And a Florida man suffered severe injury while selling fireworks illegally. He was selling them literally off the side of the road in a U-Haul van, and he blew off two of his fingers. Stick with us. It's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. This is such a great service. You need to memorize the website. They make it so easy. All Family Pharmacy helped my family out a lot over Thanksgiving because, you know, right on Thanksgiving when offices are closed and you end up getting sick, it's a mess and you've got to get medicine. All Family Pharmacy made it super easy. And you can visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Use code Dana and you'll get 10% off of your entire order. So this is affordable access, easy and cost effective for medicine. You don't have to break the bank to access these medicines. There's no red tape. There's no hassle. Everything's made in the USA. You're not getting Chinese antibiotics. It's not how that's working. They got a proven track record. and you work with their doctors. Their doctors get you the medication that you need, fast delivery right to your door. You can even overnight stuff if needed. And you can rely on all family pharmacy to keep your health needs on track. If you need antibiotics, if you need things like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, which is actually a good antiviral, you can get those at All Family Pharmacy. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Get 10% off using code Dana. 10% off your purchase using code Dana10. It's Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order only at allfamilypharma.com slash Dana.
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You want to see somebody that responds to your house, your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call that looks like you. It gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better. Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire, which my response is he got himself in the wrong place.
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If I have to carry him out of a fire, I don't believe that she could carry. That's one of the Kristen's. That's one of the fire department Christens. Remember, so Kane missed this yesterday. Welcome back. Dana Lash here with you. Kane, I don't know if you knew this, though, because Kane was iced in. He was literally in his own heat glue.
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Yeah, I like that.
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Yeah, you were all, like, trying to stay warm in a heat glue, dude. I love it. He was all iced in. Juan was in a heat glue. They were all iced in yesterday. They couldn't move. They did not, in fact, want to build a snowman. And I found... And a friend told me, you know, there are a lot of Christens, lesbian Christens that work in the fire department. And I'm not I'm not talking about then like, oh, well, why are they lesbian? That's not why are they all named Kristen is my big thing. Number one, I'm going to get to the meat and potatoes of this video. Kane, you missed that, though. They're all named Kristen and they're all old white lesbians, except for that Kristen. And she is an older black woman. They're all literally named Kristen, like all of them.
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I don't even know how to explain that.
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It reminded me of that episode of Shorzy. If you haven't seen it, it's hysterical. It's a Canadian. It's very blue humor. It's a Canadian series.
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That's what your mom said.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sanguinette! But it has this... It's a guy who does Letterkenny too, right? So he does Shorzy. And it's one of the funniest shows I've ever seen in my life. But you've got to like that humor. But it is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. And it's this guy, you know, he's going up... What is it? A AAA hockey league? Like somewhere up in Saskatoon or something like that? Anyway, they... recruit these and one of them apparently is a real hockey there are a lot of real hockey players in it but this guy is like apparently a brawler and there's these three dudes and they're all named Jim and I'd play part of the show but they'll cite us on YouTube so they're all named Jim And, you know, you got Shorzy, who's the title, you know, the star of the show, who's trying to figure out how they're going to make that work on the hockey team. He's like, so what, you know, if I call Jim, all three of you can't get up. And they all want to be called Jim because it's their first name. And it just gave me such a Shorzy feel. Like, why in the world are you, they're all Kristen. So what happens? You're at the fire department. Kristen. There's like a million lesbians. And you can't even go, lesbian Kristen. You can't even do that because they're all lesbians too. You can't even go, old lesbian Kristen. Because they're all old lesbians named Kristen. The only thing you can do is go, the black lesbian Kristen. But that might not work very well in Los Angeles, right? I don't think you're supposed to do things like that. But they're all named Kristen. How else do you, literally all of them are Kristen. All of them. I mean, to make it even worse, you can't even go the old blonde lesbian Kristen because they're all old blonde lesbians named Kristen. All of them. I'm not making this up. Literally all of them. Kate, I know you said... What is... That's very diverse. Is it diverse if they're all old white lesbians?
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I think we should just go with middle initials.
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See, you have Kristen Crowley. She's the fire chief and they're like, she's the... Gosh, it's Friday. How many of you are really listening today? Everybody. She's the first. Cain, she's the first. Oh, my gosh. She's the first that. Nope. She is an alphabet fire chief. I'm totally fine with that. But why are all of you named Kristen? She went to Harvard Business School. Her apparently mission in life is to the creation of systemic equity and inclusion. I don't even know what the hell that means. Then you got Kristen Kempner. She's the chief assistant chief of the fire department, Harvard Kennedy School for Managing Diverse Organizations, WTF that means. Her greatest achievement was she got accused of domestic violence because she whooped on her girlfriend. Then you have Kristen Larson. She's the first lesbian equity bureau. So that's the black lesbian. She's also I don't know. She got her job because everybody's racist. That's why she got her job. And then, oh, and then you got also a lesbian, but her name's not Kristen. The lone exception, Jamie. Her big thing, her claim to fame is she's not named Kristen. So you got Kristen, Kristen, Kristen and Jamie. The three Kristen's and Jamie. Kristen cubed and Jamie. All unable to carry a human male out of a. Not a damn one of these women could carry a dude. So back to the video. the hell does that mean like she's shaming people for getting caught in fires like how are you drowning you should be drowning in the first place like what the hell kind of video is this how is it not victim blaming how is that not victim blaming should have got raped in the first place you're somewhere you shouldn't be if you're getting raped shouldn't have wore that yeah you're somewhere you shouldn't be if you're drowning you're somewhere you shouldn't be if you got hit or by another automobile I mean, it's like someone's like, I think I'm going to go into that fire over there. That's not what happened. What kind of video is this? I love how she thought she was being super clever. Now how she like paused for a beat. This is so Hollywood. She's doing a fire thing, a little fire PSA. But she's like, you know, if I'm there carrying your husband out of your house, he got himself in the wrong place. Yeah, he must be in purgatory if you're carrying him out of the house because no way on God's green earth in this real scape could you do that, Jamie. Or no, wait, she's Kristen. That's right. What are the odds, though? Right?
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Yeah, that is weird.
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Like, who's handling HR over there? Kristen?
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Is there a book of lesbian names?
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That's like when you're playing Uno and you have all green and you really need the color to be green. So you're encouraging everyone, make the color green. Is that why they're all named Kristen? Because the fire chief is Kristen and she's like, I need some Kristens. Need a whole crew of Kristens over here. The Kristen crew. Hope not. Jiminy. Well... I could go on about this forever. Not a single damn one of them apparently can do my... I think all the... Like, the people who are actually out there fighting fires are the ones, you know, doing everything. And the people who are making the calls are the problem. Kind of like a DOD, right? Same situation like a DOD. You know, these people are the problems. They're the problems. It's wild. I don't know. I mean... For her to say that, well, he shouldn't have got himself in the fire in the first place. Who says something like that? And then when she was going on in the video, you know, yeah, people that look like you rescuing you from a fire. You caught that part, right? You caught that part where she's talking about being rescued and how it must be nice for people who are in fires to be rescued by people who look like them. As opposed to what? Like a dolphin coming up and rescuing you out of the fire? As opposed to what? A two-headed Martian? As opposed to what? I don't want anybody that looks like me coming to get me out of fire because they couldn't lift my ass up. I'm a buck 20. I lie a little bit. I'm like, ah, I lie about my height and I try to make myself sound bigger than I am. I'm like, no, I'm really 5'8 and I weigh 145. Yeah, that sounds good. It's not real. It's fake news. I mean, I don't want anybody that – my friend Dave Burge says he doesn't want anybody that looks like him because he's an old, fat drunk coming and rescuing him from the fire. He's not fat and he's not a drunk.
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He's old. We're missing the point that everybody, every firefighter would come into a fire completely in gear, helmet, face thing the whole night. No one's looking like anybody.
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Dude, this is Los Angeles. Their uniforms might say, like, I'm an old white lesbian, or I'm a black lesbian, or I am just black, not a lesbian, so I am lower on the totem pole. They probably can't even say totem pole out there. I'm lower on the ladder than the other people with more identity boxes checked. It's a long tag, but it's on the front.
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Mental illness aside... No one looks like you.
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Is it mental illness or do they just have too much damn free time on their hands?
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I think it's too much free time that led to mental illness.
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People are sitting around making up problems.
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Mental illness.
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Like when you're burning to death in a fire, do you care if it's a white or black lesbian or a lesbian at all?
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People without mental illness don't think so.
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I mean, oh man, it's taken everything I have right now to not go full George Carlin. It's crazy. Oh Lord, put a hand over my mouth. taking everything I have.
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No one's looking like you when they're coming into a fire.
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Like you're dying to death in a fire, right? Do you care if it's a... that shows up?
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I almost had the button done. Did anyone hear that?
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No, I don't think they did.
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I heard echoes. That was it. Did you?
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I'm just saying.
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Stop.
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Does it matter? Nobody cares. I'm going to be grabbing onto anybody.
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If I am burning. Martians. Yes, if I'm burning.
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Dead burnt lesbians. I don't care. I'm going to hold on to you. Give me out.
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If I'm burning and an alligator walks by and offers the tail.
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I'm grabbing that alligator.
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I would take it. I would take it.
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If Bigfoot came in and was like, yes, give me out.
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Even Littlefoot.
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Yeah, or Littlefoot. I mean, give me another cryptid. Any cryptid. I don't care. You know, I mean, if Joe Biden came by, I'd accept the help if I'm dying in a fire. You know what I mean? Like, nobody cares.
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I'd see him.
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Why is it such a big thing with the left?
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That I would die.
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Like someone would go, I was going to allow myself to be rescued out this fire. But then I saw that you don't check enough identity politic boxes for me. So no, thanks. I'm going to burn to death. Just snuggle on into the flames. You know, like I said.
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Hence my diagnosis of mental illness.
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Or they have way too much free time. No. Some of them I think are mentally ill. Some of them I think are bored. They're bored. What else would these women be doing right now? Landscaping? What else? They're bored. I don't know, man. All of them. I've never been more fascinated with an aspect of a story than this. I cannot tell you, by the way, and this is the funniest part of it. We've got a big coalition that listens to the show. We have a lot of People who you might say are in the alphabet community, unwillingly, they don't like the labels, and they're conservative. They just want to, you know, not be taxed to death, and they want to be left the hell alone. Don't we all? It's the new American dream. And I actually had conservative-leaning lesbians write in and go... First off, I had two different listeners who are of that persuasion who said, yeah, there are a lot of lesbians named Kristen. I have never heard this in my life, and I about died reading the email. I did die, and I came back to life. It was hysterical. And then some were saying, what you were saying, that's just the mental illness out in California. I doubt that they were even born with that name. It's like half and half, the community. It's one of the most fascinating things I've ever... I'm just dying laughing over it. I mean, I shouldn't, but if there is any kind of... lightness to the story at all. Maybe it's that. But also, it's bad because this is apparently what they focused on. Look, the right doesn't want to sit here. I mean, some of them do. But we all don't want to sit here and dice up everybody's little identity politic box. I don't care. It's the people in these groups that are trying to make you care. We don't care. In fact, Kane and I were raised in a generation where you were raised to not GAF. And you were encouraged to not GAF. And in fact, you were told in multiple PSAs to stop giving a GAF. And so guess what? We don't care. Leave us alone. When you stop leaving us alone, that's the moment that you cross the line and you make us care. But otherwise, leave us alone. But this is like it has to – that's like listed on someone's resume as though it's an achievement. Well, I worked really hard and decided to like vagina. Like, you know, how does that – it's not an – they list it on a resume like it's an achievement. It's like they want to other themselves so bad. And I am floored because that's not at all how, you know, we – that's not how society was when we were coming up. No.
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Also, not how society was, was our emergency people saying things like, oh, well, if I'm having to come and help you in an emergency, you just found yourself in the wrong place.
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Yeah, you're in the wrong place. Well, duh, bitch, I'm in a fire. It's not a right place to be at. Just saying. I just, I am... Oh, my gosh. And then Lorraine adds more fuel to the fire. She goes, now, you know, the Christens are also all paramedics as well.
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Wait, is Kristen going to be the new Karen?
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I don't know.
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There's a lot of Christens.
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I only know one Kristen in my life. I only know one Kristen. She's not a lesbian.
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I don't know.
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It's just a fascinating thing to me. I don't know. But I wouldn't want that woman to carry me out. I don't care. I don't think she she don't have the if someone said an actual firefighter told me when it comes to blazes like this, upper body strength matters. Upper body strength is the difference. And they said that's why it's really difficult for women. And that's a great perspective. There's an actual firefighter who works in California up northern California who emailed that. And I thought it was a great point. And that's true. I mean, look, in my mind, I like to pretend that I'm like super hardcore. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. But I'm I'm a buck 20. I lie all the time and I'm like, no, I'm five, seven, five, eight and five, six. But this doesn't leave us. This is our private discussion. Right. And I try to inflate how large I am. And see if like you guys don't know if I can just if I just sit here and I shrug down and I wear a baggy sweater, I could be. I don't know. But I know my limitations physically as well. I know what I can lift. I know what my limit is. And you can't just bend those rules or suspend them altogether because you want to promote a false sense of inclusiveness. And it is a false sense of inclusiveness because it's not about the mission. This is mission creep stuff. The folks over at Kel-Tec. Kel-Tec, longtime friend of the show. I'm a huge fan of what Kel-Tec does. I'm a huge fan of their firearms. Everything's built right here in the US of A in Florida. They have got a great story, great all-American story. And as we head into the later part of January, this is about the same time every year that Kel-Tec unveils the new things that they've been working on. This year is not going to be any kind of exception for that. George Kellgren, who's the president, founder, designer, mad scientist. He's actually one of the few major firearms designers still alive today, leading the way in innovation. You know, they invented the micro compact pistol category. They came out last year with the lightest, thinnest double stack nine millimeter on the market. That's the P-15. Everything they do is quality made right here in America. They've got the fold-in half carbine, the sub-2Ks, that whole family, that whole line. They have the KSG shotguns, the RDB bullpup series, and they stand behind everything that they make. Now, they're going to be dropping some new product later this month. I'll be at SHOT Show broadcasting live for that industry event. So there's going to be some new product, and we'll talk all about it when it happens. You can visit caltechweapons.com, sign up for... their newsletter, check out their social media, and you can also get on the inside track so you can be made aware when they drop new stuff. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C, Kel-TecWeapons.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Is When the Levee Breaks by Zeppelin, is that just not one of the best songs ever? I'm just telling you. The TikTok band going to SCOTUS. And they're battling for survival, TikTok, in the United States as the decision over its fate is now underway. I don't know. I just, I don't know why people are defending it so much. It doesn't help when you have politicians who are like, yeah, we got to get rid of TikTok. And then they're like, TikTok's great. I'm not on it. I just don't have time, and also I can only watch so many videos of people looking at the camera.
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The Supreme Court just came out and said that they're looking to uphold that ban. That's what the SCOTUS just said. I got this one minute ago.
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They're looking to uphold the ban? Yep. A minute ago. So unless they're able to get like a... Well, you can't in the Scottish. You can't appeal it.
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We'll dig deeper. All right.
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So I don't know if you guys saw this. Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado was reportedly kidnapped by Maduro in Venezuela. You know, because they have free elections and all that good stuff there, right? Yeah. In Venezuela. Isn't that how it works? There's a couple of different reports of how it happened, but she was apparently reportedly freed after she was violently intercepted, is how it was described. And she left her hideout to protest Maduro. So that's... You know, if you want to know where free and fair elections don't happen, it's there. Novak Djokovic said he was poisoned by lead in his food after he was detained over COVID during the Australian Open. He had refused to get the experimental injection. And he said he was poisoned by food that he ate while he was detained during that 2022 whole thing. He was in a Melbourne hotel room. And they said he goes, I was fed some food that poisoned me. And he monitors his diet pretty strictly. It's like a thing that he's actually pretty famous for. GQ did a whole piece on it once. So he said that he had flu like symptoms and he had an emergency medical team treat him when he got back to Europe. But he said it was lead. Somebody poisoned him? That's good night. Bank of America is bracing for massive bond losses as yields soar. New headline. The sharp rise in rates since the end of their third quarter has widened losses on bank securities portfolio on their portfolio. And it could become an investor issue again when banks start reporting their fourth quarter results. That's like next week. Excuse me. Beginning of next week. And let's see here. We've got a couple of other things as well, which we're going to talk about. The president saying 100 percent help for. people affected by the fires out in California. We're going to have to revisit Hurricane Helene here. And this also happened this morning. Four injured after a Delta flight aborted a takeoff at a snow-covered Atlanta airport because it's been snowing in Atlanta. They said it was about 9 a.m. local time. They told passengers to duck down and evacuate after the plane accelerated to take off. They said they had ongoing severe weather. There were people who were treated on the scene. Everybody's okay now, apparently, but they said it was due to an engine issue.
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What we know right now is that the incident occurred, started here, and about 20 minutes, 30 minutes later, a suspect was detained over in Woodland Hills area by citizens. So someone purposely set the Kenneth fire? At this time, that's what we believe, yes. Do you know how or why they did that? That I don't know. Is this a crime scene right now? It's being closed off. Yes, it's being investigated as a crime.
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Wow. Unbelievable. Yes, it's being investigated. You know, there were a lot of questions about that. There were a lot of questions about whether or not there was arson that was involved in this. And... Everybody was the media on the left was so quick to climate change, climate change. Is that a new name? Maybe that's all the arsonists. You know how like all the fire people in L.A. are gay lesbians named Kristen. Maybe all the arsonists are named climate change. Clive, for short, you know, could be. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this second hour. There's ice and snow on the ground and I'm forever wearing turtlenecks on this show. Someone asked me in an email, how many of those do you actually own? An ungodly number. I buy something in black and I'll buy the same thing three times. Because I don't like to think about what I wear. I am very like Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg about that stuff. If I could just wear the same thing every day, I would. It's less energy that you have to exert over that. But it's cold. It's cold. And houses in Texas, building structures in Texas are designed to let the heat out, not keep it in. So it's the code in Texas. So you're lucky that I'm not wearing a scarf and a sock hat too, all at the same time with mittens. Guys are lucky. Anyway, so welcome. Dana Lash with you. Find us at YouTube and Facebook. Like and subscribe. And you can also find us over at Substack, chapter and verse, the newsletter. And this whole... I was listening to some of the stats for this and, you know, with the arsonists because there's now two arsonists that have been arrested. I think maybe potentially three. Listen to this extent of the damage. So this is just the Palisades fire. There's several different fires. Audio soundbite 30. Listen to how bad this fire is.
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Palisades fires. This fire was currently tracked at 20,438 acres with 3,073 personnel assigned. Crews worked very, very hard overnight strengthening our containment lines and addressing multiple spot fires in and around the Topanga Canyon area. Resources responded to the area included our air assets to aid in the containment efforts. Due to the favorable overnight weather conditions and the diligent, and I'll focus on the diligent work and effort and commitment of our first responders, we can report that the Palisades fire is now 8% contained. Wind gusts are expected to increase in daylight hours that will test our containment lines. Our firefighters will continue to respond.
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So they're saying that it's scorched over 20,000 acres. So it's like basically larger than Manhattan. The Manhattan is 14,600 acres. This is over 20. But they said in this, play this audio soundbite. I know this is brand new. This is from LAPD. This is about one of the arsonists that they caught specifically that had the blood torch. We had some of that video for you. Listen to what LAPD says here.
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They responded, they interviewed this suspect. After the interview and additional investigative steps, looking at some additional evidence that was present, they made the determination that there was not enough probable cause to arrest this person on arson or suspicion of arson. And therefore, this person was arrested on a felony probation violation.
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If you caught him in the act, though, and the video shows that he's literally there with a blowtorch trying to set stuff on fire. It was like one of those ring camera things. How is that not probable cause? Right. Enough by itself there. Kane, how is that not?
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It's plenty, but they're going to do what they're going to do is they're going to say, well, we got to do this investigation. Then they'll gather that video evidence and then they'll go over it and then they'll change your story later. But this is that they do PR wise every single time.
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This is also goofy. You don't have enough. There's not enough. We don't have enough probable cause to charge him. I mean, yeah, you know, we got him with a. Literally on camera. Trying to set stuff on fire with a blowtorch. Like literally he had a blowtorch and was setting stuff on fire. And he got caught by a ton of passerby.
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I wonder how long it's going to be before.
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They had five people that watched him set things on fire. Five people who don't even know each other. Who saw him independently try to set something on fire. And that's why they all intervened and took him down. But they don't have enough probable cause for that charge. So they just got him on felony probation. And his name isn't out there? Really? Oh, I want to know these people's names. Oh, yeah. I want to know their names. If I knew if somebody was a firebug, I would just put their name out there as law enforcement because, man, oh, man, you would watch a community come together to hunt somebody down real quick. I mean, no, it's not illegal to carry a blowtorch at all. It is illegal to take the blowtorch you're carrying and try to set stuff on fire and alleyways. That's illegal. And that's what five people saw him do. And they told this to police. So I don't know what that, you know, can you make a good point? Bring up the point you just put. Yeah.
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I just wonder how long it'll take before they start demonizing the people that actually caught him doing that.
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Yeah. I wonder if he did it alone.
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I think he was by himself at the time it happened, but whether or not he did everything alone is a good question.
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I'm just – that was weird to me that that was treated that way. It's just weird, right? I mean, yeah, that's – because people were saying we watched him literally set with his blowtorch. And I'm all about due diligence and due process. I'm all about those things. But when you see someone use their blowtorch to set it on fire, you're not just in possession of a blowtorch. You're literally using it to set fires. It's arson. So I don't know. This is all – I mean it's just – I don't know. The way in which they're still running things out there, I worry for the people who are going to have to rebuild how long that's going to take. to get that done, how long it's going to take for that to happen, because you have to think of the insurance nightmare that's out there too. That's a huge nightmare.
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After careful analysis in obedience to governing mandates and pursuant to the rule of law, this court has determined that the only lawful sentence that permits entry of a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the highest office in the land is an unconditional discharge. which the New York State Legislature has determined is a lawful and permissible sentence for the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree. Therefore, at this time, I impose that sentence to cover all 34 counts, Sir, I wish you Godspeed as you assume your second term in office. Thank you.
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We could talk about probably a dozen different reversible errors in this case, but the jury was not asked to find unanimously the crime that Trump was supposedly covering up when he allegedly falsified his business records. It's a bedrock principle of the criminal law that if it's a fact, that is going to drive the sentence and we're talking now about the fact that turned this what's ordinarily a misdemeanor in New York law into a felony if it's that kind of a fact that's that consequential for sentencing it has to be found unanimously by the jury and this jury didn't and no one in his right mind thinks that you have to give voice to a jury verdict when there's patent constitutional error in the case that's our friend Andy McCarthy who's talking about this
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This decision, this weird decision that came in from the judge today, this Judge Mertron, and this has to do with this New York case. Look, I know it's important to get into some of the details of it. I hate it. And I have avoided it because I think it's just a performative witch hunt. And I cannot stand giving it any kind of... The credibility of coverage. Does that make sense? Like, it's so infuriating. It's such an infuriating topic. And we have Lorraine that covers it for the newsletter. And she gets into all of the minutia. So if you subscribe over at Chapter and Verse, that's what she does. She gets into all the minutia of it because some of the stuff is so petty. And it just is disheartening to see the state of our judicial system. And I mean, you can hear Andy McCarthy talking about how weird all of this is, but they just all of this is about them being able to say he's a felon. They want to be able to say he's a felon without he didn't have to serve a single sentence, single day. They just want to be able to say he's a felon. That's why you have this this weird, unconditional discharge. And isn't it true that they were just like telling the jury, just go find whatever. Just go find whatever. I mean, it's really difficult to believe in justice. When this is the system and this is the stuff that you're seeing happen, it's really difficult to believe in the concept of justice after this. So welcome to the show, Dana Lash with you. And we've got a number of things to get into, including this. We also have the latest with the fires. And there's a lot of arson. I mean, it's really unbelievable, some of this stuff that we've been able to see. They had a press conference just a little bit ago. And, I mean, listen to this. This is Audio Sunbite 6. This is one resident. Not everybody who lives in Malibu has mansions, by the way. Listen to this resident, Audio Sunbite 6.
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So I kept spraying all the embers, and then the next thing I know, a 30-foot wall of fire was coming at 60 miles an hour, and I couldn't see, and it was so smoky. And I said, well, it's time to leave. We lost everything we owned, but it doesn't even look like a house anymore.
SPEAKER 19 :
It just looks like something. And they said a lot of that is still smoldering. A lot of the fires that they have, they're still smoldering. So that you have this, you know, this complete devastation. You have people who are absolutely heartbroken and they're looking for, you know, they're trying to go back to their property when the worst of the fires have passed. And they're trying to go back, understandably, and go through, find anything that they can find that they can, you know, keep, that they can have, you know, something from anything. And they have to be careful because you have these, the smoldering that's ongoing. And that's really, obviously it's super dangerous for folks because that, I mean, there's still a fire there and they, and the fire department even said in one of their, uh, one of their pressers that, you know, there's pockets that they haven't checked all the way. There's pockets that they haven't checked all the way. And so they're desperately trying to make sure that they find all this stuff, get it all out. And it's just, you know, it's terrifying. There are a number of people, we had two more friends Well, one more friend who lost their home, another friend that they had extensive fire damage, but the structure was still standing. And they're not millionaires, by the way. They don't have like big bougie houses. They're just like regular average everyday people. And. that's that's you know they they ended up losing you know everything it's it's and not just that the schools too it's the schools it's i think what the high school in pacific palisades is gone is it the high school or junior high i think it was the high school that that people were saying that was um that yeah that had that serious damage serious damage and um I don't know. I'm like looking at some of the pictures. I don't know how the kids go back to school. This is the other thing I was thinking of. The damage to the schools. Wasn't California the state that was locked down the longest with COVID? I think that was the one that was locked down the longest, that state. And the reason I bring this up is because What are they going to do now with their schools? What are they going to do with their schools? If the kids have no schools to go to, what the hell happens? Because now you have a number of schools that have been damaged. You have a number of businesses that have been damaged. People have lost their property. So what do you, what happens in the meantime? I feel so bad for these kids because think about it. A lot of these kids that are in high school now, they were like in junior high, right? When COVID hit. Now think of it. Same generation. They're like, oh my gosh, now our schools are burned down. Because it's not just Pacific Palisades. I think it's... There's a couple of other areas where I think it's been junior highs or elementaries or high schools. I mean, think about that. Think about kids that are... Their schools burned down. Their... I'm thinking their field, the football field, whatever it is, burned down. And what if they were what if they were going on scholarship? What if they were trying to get scholarship? What if they were trying to get anything? It's just it's so heartbreaking. So we're going to have the latest with this. And we have some other pretty interesting developments as it pertains to this. I know that the left is trying to say to not. politicize it, but holding people accountable, Kane, we talked about this yesterday while you were iced in, is not holding them, I mean, critical criticism and expecting accountability is not politicizing it.
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Yeah, I don't get it. I think it's spelled out in our Constitution that we have the right to actually redress our government. I don't get why all of a sudden people in government feel as though that's un-American or unpatriotic to do and why they would want to avoid it. It's part of the job. Also, with these fires, we know the fire... the structure that they actually have that firemen operate from, that money, the school money, all of that comes from property taxes, property that is now burned down. Are they going to do to North Carolina or do to them what they did to North Carolina?
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Well, and that's one of the things we're going to talk about getting into this. So first off, I forgot to even say hello. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the top of this first hour and I've just got a lot of stuff open before me on my four and a half foot wide gaming screen. And I have people who are like, why don't you look into the camera all the time? Because I don't have a teleprompter. All my prep is right here. I've told you this. I've told people this. And some people, I guess, just want me to gaze at them. That's great. But what am I going to refer to when I'm reading and sharing news articles with people? So this... We followed, like I said, we followed some of this over at Substack. I wanted to play... Forgive me, because I've got a million different odds and ends that are open. It's a weird news cycle. This... First off, they've been saying it's climate change. There's all kinds of video. I think, is it three separate videos or is it two firebugs and then just three videos of two firebugs? I want to make sure I'm being accurate because they arrested definitely two people for arson. One of them... was it the Kenneth fire? I think one of the fires was absolutely 100% arson and they arrested a guy and it's on camera. New York Post has one story where citizens swept his, like used a MMA move, swept his legs up from underneath him and took him into custody because they saw him with a blowtorch, literally setting things on fire. There was another guy that we had yesterday He was out in the middle of the road and somebody caught him on camera setting a fire. And so they arrested him there. I believe a lot of this is serial arson. Because, and I mentioned this yesterday, it just is the way that some of the fires have spread. It's just weird to me. I'm not a fire science expert, but I just think it's a little weird if you have fires happening in the Pacific Palisades and then you hop miles and miles and miles away beyond the point of where the wind can take embers. And especially if it's not even in the direction of where the wind is going and you have a whole other problem. wildfire that breaks out you know what i mean it's a little weird i'm just saying especially not like the the one that they just the the arsonist that they arrested that was one of those areas where they actually i mean you can see from the video when they approach him when citizens approach him he's like in the like somebody's driveway and he's there's there's no fire damage there's no fire they're not in a fire zone And they catch him. And I was looking on the map. This actually is an area that is not in the fire zone. So that's what's weird to me. And I just... Because a lot of people have been... Lifelong residents in that area have been saying, how is it that... In some instances when it's not even downwind from the fires, you have a whole, you know, it's just there's a lot of questions. I think that there's a lot of arsonists out for sure. I think that you had natural with wildfire and then I think it was further compounded by arsonists. And so I don't know. They got this guy in custody. But the reason I bring this up is because everybody's been calling it climate change. The media has been insisting that this is climate change. The left has been insisting that this is climate change. And the reason that they're insisting that this arson is climate change is because, again, what I tell you yesterday, they're trying to absolve their elected officials of any kind of culpability with us at all. Any culpability. They're trying to absolve their elected officials of any of it. And I don't know, I'm just saying. I don't think that that's gonna work. This is sort of like what happened with some of the Canadian wildfires. They figured out that a lot of that was arson as well. You guys remember all of that? Yeah, they figured out a lot of that was arson. So just, I've got a lot of questions here. As we move, the folks who helped bring you the program, it's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. This is such a great service. You need to memorize the website. They make it so easy. All Family Pharmacy helped my family out a lot over Thanksgiving because, you know, right on Thanksgiving when offices are closed and you end up getting sick, it's just, it's a mess and you got to get medicine. All Family Pharmacy made it super easy. And you can visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Use code Dana and you'll get 10% off of your entire order. So this is affordable access, easy and cost effective for medicine. You don't have to break the bank to access these medicines. There's no red tape. There's no hassle. Everything's made in the USA. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So how much ice did we get here in Texas? I don't know. It's still 35 degrees, and I'm just not feeling that. It's icy. Kane and Juan made it in. How was it out there?
SPEAKER 18 :
The side roads are a little chunky, a little ruddy with ice and stuff. But the main roads are not that bad. You'll see little parts of the main road that are not great. But it was doable. We were brave men this morning.
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came out dead. I gave them the option. I was like, you guys don't have to try to make it in today. But, I mean, you should have seen it. It was like a cave here yesterday. You guys didn't see it because we didn't have video. I'm going to share a picture with you though on social media. It was pitch dark. It was amazing. But, they said, because it's still kind of What's in out there? I don't know what you would call it. There's like some snow, some ice. It's weird. Still kind of doing it out there. But yeah, we did get a couple of inches, I will say. How apparently we could all soon freeze our bodies and outlive an apocalyptic disaster. First off, who was building it? Secondly, why do I want to? I don't want to do that. I mean, we're having a hard enough time, not even in an apocalypse. I can't imagine being on Earth with some of these insufferable people. And trying to survive in an apocalyptic situation with these insufferable people. Could you? It's called time shift. They want to preserve and prolong your misery here on this rock. By offering the world's first cryopreservation facility. Whatever. I don't know. You can become a human meat sickle. If that's your jam. It's not my jam. I don't want to be a meat sickle. I'm like when I'm done, I'm done. Like I'm going to tell my family. I look at my great grandkids. I'm done with you people. Bye. See you later. Yes, I do view everything that way. It's very, very true. The U.S. warns of risk from the from most of the world's online pharmacies. I think this is a lie, actually, because a lot of them are incredibly reputable. Like all family pharma dot com slash Dana where you can go and use Dana Dana 10 to get 10 percent off. They're saying that some of these online pharmacies, yeah, if you're like buying from an online pharmacy that's like van on the side of the road dot com, that might not be great. But I think it's a lot of it is just people looking for the government wants to regulate it. That's what I look at it. We have a whole bunch more on the way. Stick with us. Imagine a young woman facing an unplanned pregnancy, feeling alone and unsure of what to do. And she's searching for hope. And that's where Preborn Ministries comes in. You can make a difference for just $28. Your generosity can be the key to a mother choosing life for her baby. And with your gift, you will receive the story of a mom who chose life as well as the ultrasound image of her precious baby. And like the story of Kelsey, who found pre-born and after hearing her baby's heartbeat, she chose life. Consider making a larger, life-changing donation of $5, $10, or $15,000. Maximize your gift that can help women in unplanned pregnancies receive ultrasounds and even help place an ultrasound machine in a women's center. Donate for the gift of life. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword BABY. That's pound or hashtag 250 baby, or visit preborn.com slash Dana to donate online. Every contribution counts. So again, that's pound 250, say the word baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana.
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You want to see somebody that responds to your house, your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call that looks like you. It gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better. Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire, which my response is he got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire.
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I don't believe that she could carry. That's one of the Kristen's. That's one of the fire department Christians. Remember, so Kane missed this yesterday. Welcome back. Dana Lash here with you. Kane, I don't know if you knew this, though, because Kane was iced in. He was literally in his own heat glue.
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Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, you were all trying to stay warm in a heat glue, dude. I love it. He was all iced in. Juan was in a heat glue. They were all iced in yesterday. They couldn't move. They did not, in fact, want to build a snowman. And I found... And a friend told me, you know, there are a lot of Kristen's lesbian Kristen's that work in the fire department. And I'm not I'm not talking about then like, oh, well, why are they lesbian? That's not why are they all named Kristen is my big thing. Number one, I'm going to get to the meat and potatoes of this video. Kane, you missed that, though. They're all named Kristen and they're all old white lesbians, except for that Kristen. And she is an older black woman. They're all literally named Kristen, like all of them.
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I don't even know how to explain that.
SPEAKER 19 :
It reminded me of that episode of Shorzy. If you haven't seen it, it's hysterical. It's a Canadian. It's very blue humor. It's a Canadian series.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's what your mom said.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sanguinette! But it has this... It's a guy who does Letterkenny too, right? So he does Shorzy. And it's one of the funniest shows I've ever seen in my life. But you've got to like that humor. But it is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. And it's this guy, you know, he's going up... What is it? A AAA hockey league? Like somewhere up in Saskatoon or something like that? Anyway, they... Recruit these and one of them apparently is a real hockey other a lot of real hockey players in it but this guy is like apparently a brawler and there's these three dudes and they're all named Jim and I'd play part of the show, but they'll cite us on YouTube So they're they're all named Jim And, you know, you got Shorzy, who's the title, you know, the star of the show, who's trying to figure out how they're going to make that work on the hockey team. He's like, so what, you know, if I call Jim, all three of you can't get up. And they all want to be called Jim because it's their first name. And it just gave me such a Shorzy feel. Like, why in the world are you, they're all Kristen. So what happens? You're at the fire department. Kristen. There's like a million lesbians. And you can't even go, lesbian Kristen. You can't even do that because they're all lesbians too. You can't even go, old lesbian Kristen. Because they're all old lesbians named Kristen. The only thing you can do is go, the black lesbian Kristen. But that might not work very well in Los Angeles, right? I don't think you're supposed to do things like that. But they're all named Kristen. How else do you, literally all of them are Kristen. All of them. I mean, to make it even worse, you can't even go the old blonde lesbian Kristen because they're all old blonde lesbians named Kristen. All of them. I'm not making this up. Literally all of them. Kate, I know you said... What is... That's very diverse. Is it diverse if they're all old white lesbians?
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I think we should just go with middle initials.
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See, you have Kristen Crowley. She's the fire chief and they're like, she's the... Gosh, it's Friday. How many of you are really listening today? Everybody. She's the first. Kane, she's the first. Oh, my gosh. She's the first that. She is an alphabet fire chief. I'm totally fine with that. But why are all of you named Kristen? She went to Harvard Business School. Her apparently mission in life is to the creation of systemic equity and inclusion. I don't even know what the hell that means. Then you got Kristen Kempner. She's the chief assistant chief of the fire department, Harvard Kennedy School for Managing Diverse Organizations, WTF that means. Her greatest achievement was she got accused of domestic violence because she whooped on her girlfriend. Then you have Kristen Larson. She's the first lesbian equity bureau. So that's the black lesbian. She's also I don't know. She got her job because everybody's racist. That's why she got her job. And then, oh, and then you got also a lesbian, but her name's not Kristen. The lone exception, Jamie. Her big thing, her claim to fame is she's not named Kristen. So you got Kristen, Kristen, Kristen and Jamie. The three Kristen's and Jamie. Kristen cubed and Jamie.
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All unable to carry a human male out of a family.
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Not a damn one of these women could carry a dude. So back to the video. the hell does that mean like she's shaming people for getting caught in fires like how are you drowning you should be drowning in the first place like what the hell kind of video is this how is it not victim blaming how is that not victim blaming should have got raped in the first place you're somewhere you shouldn't be if you're getting raped shouldn't have wore that yeah you're somewhere you shouldn't be if you're drowning you're somewhere you shouldn't be if you got hit or by another automobile I mean, it's like someone's like, I think I'm going to go into that fire over there. That's not what happened. What kind of video is this? I love how she thought she was being super clever. Not how she paused for a beat. This is so Hollywood. She's doing a fire thing. A little fire PSA. But she's like, if I'm there carrying your husband out of your house, he got himself in the wrong place. Yeah, he must be in purgatory if you're carrying him out of the house because no way on God's green earth in this real scape could you do that, Jamie. Or no, wait. She's Kristen. That's right. What are the odds, though? Right?
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Yeah, that is weird.
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Like, who's handling HR over there?
SPEAKER 18 :
Kristen? Is there a book of lesbian names?
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That's like when you're playing Uno and you have all green and you really need the color to be green. So you're encouraging everyone, make the color green. Is that why they're all named Kristen? Because the fire chief is Kristen and she's like, I need some Kristens. Need a whole crew of Kristens over here. The Kristen crew. Hope not. Jiminy. Well... I could go on about this forever. Not a single damn one of them apparently can do my... I think all the... Like, the people who are actually out there fighting fires are the ones, you know, doing everything. And the people who are making the calls are the problem. Kind of like a DOD, right? Same situation like a DOD. You know, these people are the problems. They're the problems. It's wild. I don't know. I mean... For her to say that, well, he shouldn't have got himself in the fire in the first place. Who says something like that? And then when she was going on in the video, you know, yeah, people that look like you rescuing you from a fire. You caught that part, right? You caught that part where she's talking about being rescued and how it must be nice for people who are in fires to be rescued by people who look like them. As opposed to what? Like a dolphin coming up and rescuing you out of the fire? Yeah. As opposed to what? A two-headed Martian? As opposed to what? I don't want anybody that looks like me coming to get me out of fire because they couldn't lift my ass up. I'm a buck 20. I lie a little bit. I'm like, ah, I lie about my height and I try to make myself sound bigger than I am. I'm like, no, I'm really 5'8 and I weigh 145. Yeah, that sounds good. It's not real. It's fake news. I mean, I don't want anybody that my friend Dave Burge says he doesn't want anybody that looks like him because he's an old fat drunk coming and rescuing him from the fire. He's not fat and he's not a drunk.
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He's old. We're missing the point that everybody, every firefighter would come into a fire completely in gear, helmet, face thing the whole night. No one's looking like anybody.
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Dude, this is Los Angeles. Their uniforms might say, like, I'm an old white lesbian, or I'm a black lesbian, or I am just black, not a lesbian, so I am lower on the totem pole. They probably can't even say totem pole out there. I'm lower on the ladder than the other people with more identity boxes checked. It's a long tag, but it's on the front.
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Mental illness aside... No one looks like you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Is it mental illness or do they just have too much damn free time on their hands?
SPEAKER 18 :
I think it's too much free time that led to mental illness.
SPEAKER 19 :
People are sitting around making up problems.
SPEAKER 18 :
Mental illness.
SPEAKER 19 :
Like when you're burning to death in a fire, do you care if it's a white or black lesbian or a lesbian at all?
SPEAKER 18 :
People without mental illness don't think so.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, oh man, it's taken everything I have right now to not go full George Carlin. It's crazy. Oh Lord, put a hand over my mouth. taking everything I have. No one's looking like you when they're coming into a fire. Like you're, you're dying to death in a fire, right? Do you care if it's a, that shows up?
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I almost had the button done. Did anyone hear that? No, I don't think they did. I heard echoes. That was it. Did you?
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I'm just saying.
SPEAKER 18 :
Stop.
SPEAKER 19 :
Does it matter?
SPEAKER 18 :
Nobody cares.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm going to be grabbing onto anybody.
SPEAKER 18 :
If I am burning. Martians. Yes, if I'm burning.
SPEAKER 19 :
Dead burnt lesbians. I don't care. I'm going to hold on to you. Give me out.
SPEAKER 18 :
If I'm burning and an alligator walks by and offers the tail.
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I'm grabbing that alligator.
SPEAKER 18 :
I would take it. I would take it.
SPEAKER 19 :
If Bigfoot came in and was like, yes, give me out.
SPEAKER 18 :
Even Littlefoot.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, or Littlefoot. I mean, give me another cryptid. Any cryptid. I don't care. You know, I mean, if Joe Biden came by, I'd accept the help if I'm dying in a fire. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 18 :
Like, nobody cares. I'd see him.
SPEAKER 19 :
Why is it such a big thing with the left?
SPEAKER 18 :
That I would die.
SPEAKER 19 :
Like someone would go, I was going to allow myself to be rescued out this fire. But then I saw that you don't check enough identity politic boxes for me. So no thanks. I'm going to burn to death. Just snuggle on into the flames. You know, like I said.
SPEAKER 18 :
Hence my diagnosis of mental illness.
SPEAKER 19 :
Or they have way too much free time. No. Some of them I think are mentally ill. Some of them I think are bored. Right? They're bored. Like what else would these women be doing right now? Landscaping? Like what else? They're bored. I just, I don't know, man. All of them. I have never been more fascinated with an aspect of a story than this. And I cannot tell you, by the way, and this is the funniest part of it. So there, you know, we got a lot of, a big coalition that listens to the show. And we have a lot of People who you might say are in the alphabet community. Unwillingly. They don't like the labels. And they're conservative. They just want to, you know, not be taxed to death. And they want to be left the hell alone. Don't we all? It's the new American dream. And I actually had conservative leaning lesbians write in. And go... First off, I had two different listeners who are of that persuasion who said, yeah, there are a lot of lesbians named Kristen. I have never heard this in my life. And I about died reading the email. I just I died. I did die. And I came back to life. It was hysterical. And then some were saying it's what you were saying. That's just the mental illness out in California. I doubt that they were even born with that name. It's like half and half, the community. It's one of the most fascinating things I've ever... I'm just dying laughing over it. I mean, I shouldn't, but if there is any kind of... lightness to the story at all. Maybe it's that. But also, it's bad because this is apparently what they focused on. Look, the right doesn't want to sit here. I mean, some of them do. But we all don't want to sit here and dice up everybody's little identity politic box. I don't care. It's the people in these groups that are trying to make you care. We don't care. In fact, Kane and I were raised in a generation where you were raised to not GAF. And you were encouraged to not GAF. And in fact, you were told in multiple PSAs to stop giving a GAF. And so guess what? We don't care. Leave us alone. When you stop leaving us alone, that's the moment that you cross the line and you make us care. But otherwise, leave us alone. But this is like, it has to, that's like listed on someone's resume as though it's an achievement. Well, I worked really hard and decided to like vagina. Like, you know, how does that, it's not an, they list it on a resume like it's an achievement. It's like they want to other themselves so bad. And I am floored because that's not at all how, you know, we, that's not how society was when we were coming up.
SPEAKER 18 :
Also, not how society was, was our emergency people saying things like, oh, well, if I'm having to come and help you in an emergency, you just found yourself in the wrong place.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, you're in the wrong place. Well, duh, bitch, I'm in a fire. It's not a right place to be at. Just saying. I just, I am... Oh, my gosh. And then Lorraine adds more fuel to the fire. She goes, now, you know, the Kristen's are also all paramedics as well.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wait, is Kristen going to be the new Karen?
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 18 :
There's a lot of Kristen's and they certainly.
SPEAKER 19 :
I only know one Kristen in my life. I only know one Kristen.
SPEAKER 18 :
She's not lesbian. But I don't know.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's just a fascinating thing to me. I don't know. But I wouldn't want that woman to carry me out. I don't care. I don't think she she don't have the if someone said an actual firefighter told me when it comes to blazes like this, upper body strength matters. Upper body strength is the difference. And they said that's why it's really difficult for women. And that's a great perspective. There's an actual firefighter who works in California up northern California who emailed that. And I thought it was a great point. And that's true. I mean, look, in my mind, I like to pretend that I'm like super hardcore. Maybe, I don't know, maybe, but I'm a buck 20. I lie all the time and I'm like, no, I'm 5'7", 5'8". I'm 5'6". But this doesn't leave us. This is our private discussion, right? And I try to inflate how large I am. And see if, like, you guys don't know, if I can just, if I just sit here and I shrug down and I wear a baggy sweater, I could be. You guys don't know. But I know my limitations physically as well. I know what I can lift. I know what my limit is. And you can't just bend those rules or suspend them altogether because you want to promote a false sense of inclusiveness. And it is a false sense of inclusiveness because it's not about the mission. This is mission creep stuff. Our partners that are bringing the program, it's Tax Network USA. They want to help you out because the government... The government claims that they want to help you out by generously taking some of your money to pay themselves. And it seems to increase every single year. And they are very, very aggressive in getting what they think they're owed. And so Tax Network USA, this is where they come in. It's the top tax relief expert. They have secured over a billion dollars in tax relief for clients. So if you're overwhelmed with back taxes or unfiled returns... I know those pay up notices are going out. That's something that you can immediately get help for help with by going to Tax Network USA. Reduce or eliminate your debt. And they have a track record, a proven track record of handling these matters. They can get it set up whether or not you owe anything at all or whether or not, you know, it's 10,000 or 10 million if it's business or personal. You can call them, schedule a complimentary consultation. They make it easy. The number is 1-800-958-1000. Schedule your free, your complimentary consultation. And you can also visit TNUSA.com slash Dana. Don't let the IRS's aggressive tactics control your life. Call Tax Network USA today. That's TNUSA.com slash Dana, 1-800-958-1000.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, Senator, can we ask you what you hope to get out of your visit to Mar-a-Lago to talk to Donald Trump? What are we talking about here?
SPEAKER 12 :
Is there some news? There's some news. We hear that you're going to be heading down to Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, I've heard that. Yes, I've heard that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
What will you be discussing with the president?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, yeah, I demand that I need to be made Pope of Greenland. Do you have the resume to be Pope? I'm having a conversation. Like, he's the president. He's going to be... So, you know, I am not the senator for just Democrats in Pennsylvania. I'm everyone's senator in Pennsylvania.
SPEAKER 19 :
The Pope of Greenland. I still... I understand that they've got lots of natural resources. I'm still like, no, can we just focus on what we voted on first, please? And then when we accomplish that, then we can talk about... I'm not talking about expanding government right now. But he is having... Is it lunch or dinner? He's going to Mar-a-Lago to dine with Trump. And the left does not know what to do. Because remember, the left made it like, oh, he had a stroke, so you can't criticize him on anything ever. Well, now that he's bucking them, what are they going to do? Oh, my gosh, we can't criticize him because he had a stroke. Why did we do that? Second hour on the way. The latest on the fires movement in D.C. So much more. Stick with us. But if I have to go to a gun-free zone, I don't want to necessarily, but sometimes for my job, I have to. I have friends who live in D.C. and New York, and all of them got there very difficult to get licensed to carry. But half the places where they live and work, you know, you can't carry in there. It's crazy. I have a friend whose apartment in Manhattan, they live outside in Westchester, but they work in Manhattan, them and their wife. They can't even bring guns into their apartment building. So they can't even have their firearm in their apartment building in Manhattan. And then they can't drive it because of their stupid laws all the way to where they live out in Westchester. This is a problem. These people don't want to be made. They don't want to be made into victims by these stupid laws. And so as a result, they have decided to diversify. They keep their guns. But when they got to go to certain places, they have the Berna gun. In fact, they went out and got the Berna SD. That's the most popular model. Five round capacity, a lot more than your average one to two round stun gun. And it shoots out chemical irritant projectiles that can stop threats from up to 50 feet away. Now, they've got different models. They have different projectiles, different accessories. But I think it's wise to have diverse options for self-defense in those instances where the state or property owner wants to disarm you. And there's no waiting period, no background check, none of that. Berna SD does not care about stupid gun-free zone signs. And they'll send it right to your door. The only place where you can get a 10% discount is where I'm about to tell you, Burna.com slash Dana. That's the only place to get 10% off your whole purchase. B-Y-R-N-A, Burna.com slash Dana to get 10% off.
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What we know right now is that the incident occurred, started here, and about 20 minutes, 30 minutes later, a suspect was detained over in Woodland Hills area by citizens.
SPEAKER 23 :
So someone purposely set the Kenneth fire? At this time, that's what we believe, yes. Do you know how or why they did that? That I don't know. Is this a crime scene right now? It's being investigated as a crime.
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Wow. Unbelievable. Yes, it's being investigated. You know, there were a lot of questions about that. There were a lot of questions about whether or not there was arson that was involved in this. And... Everybody was the media on the left was so quick to climate change, climate change. Is that a new name? Maybe that's all the arsonists. You know how like all the fire people in L.A. are gay lesbians named Kristen. Maybe all the arsonists are named climate change. Clive, for short, you know, could be. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this second hour. There's ice and snow on the ground, and I'm forever wearing turtlenecks on this show. Someone asked me in an email, how many of those do you actually own? An ungodly number. I buy something in black, and I'll buy the same thing three times. Because I don't like to think about what I wear. I am very like Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg about that stuff. If I could just wear the same thing every day, I would. It's less energy that you have to exert over that. But it's cold. It's cold. And houses in Texas, building structures in Texas are designed to let the heat out, not keep it in. So it's cold in Texas. So you're lucky that I'm not wearing a scarf and a sock at two all at the same time with mittens. Guys are lucky. Anyway, so welcome, Dana Lash with you. Find us at YouTube and Facebook. Like and subscribe. And you can also find us over at Substack, chapter and verse, the newsletter. And this whole... I was listening to some of the stats for this and, you know, with the arsonists, because there's now two arsonists that have been arrested. I think maybe potentially three. Listen to this extent of the damage. So this is just the Palisades fire. There's several different fires. Audio soundbite 30. Listen to how bad this fire is.
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Palisades fires. This fire was currently tracked at 20,438 acres with 3,073 personnel assigned. Crews worked very, very hard overnight strengthening our containment lines and addressing multiple spot fires in and around the Topanga Canyon area. Resources responded to the area included our air assets to aid in the containment efforts. Due to the favorable overnight weather conditions and the diligent, and I'll focus on the diligent work and effort and commitment of our first responders, we can report that the Palisades fire is now 8% contained. Wind gusts are expected to increase in daylight hours that will test our containment lines. Our firefighters will continue to respond.
SPEAKER 19 :
So they're saying that it's scorched over 20,000 acres. So it's like basically larger than Manhattan. The Manhattan is 14,600 acres. This is over 20. But they said in this, play this audio soundbite. I know this is brand new. This is from LAPD. This is about one of the arsonists that they caught specifically that had the blowtorch. We had some of that video for you. Listen to what LAPD says here.
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They responded, they interviewed this suspect. After the interview and additional investigative steps, looking at some additional evidence that was present, they made the determination that there was not enough probable cause to arrest this person on arson or suspicion of arson. And therefore, this person was arrested on a felony probation violation.
SPEAKER 19 :
If you caught him in the act, though, and the video shows that he's literally there with a blowtorch trying to set stuff on fire. It was like one of those ring camera things. How is that not probable cause, right, enough by itself there, Cain? Yes, it is. How is that not?
SPEAKER 18 :
It's plenty. But what they're going to do is they're going to say, well, we've got to do this investigation. Then they'll gather that video evidence, and then they'll go over it, and then they'll change their story later. But this is what they do PR-wise every single time.
SPEAKER 19 :
This is all so goofy. You don't have enough. There's not enough. We don't have enough probable cause to charge him. I mean, yeah, we got him with a... Literally on camera. Trying to set stuff on fire with a blowtorch. Like literally he had a blowtorch and was setting stuff on fire. And he got caught by a ton of passerby. I wonder how long it's going to be before. They had five people that watched him set things on fire. Five people who don't even know each other. Who saw him independently try to set something on fire. And that's why they all intervened and took him down. But they don't have enough probable cause for that charge. So they just got him on felony probation. And his name isn't out there? Really? Oh, I want to know these people's names. Oh, yeah. I want to know their names. If I knew if somebody was a firebug, I would just put their name out there as law enforcement because, man, oh, man, you would watch a community come together to hunt somebody down real quick. I mean, no, it's not illegal to carry a blowtorch at all. It is illegal to take the blowtorch you're carrying and try to set stuff on fire and alleyways. That's illegal. And that's what five people saw him do. And they told this to police. So I don't know what that, you know, can you make a good point? Bring up the point you just put.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. I just wonder how long it'll take before they start demonizing the people that actually caught him doing that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. I wonder if he did it alone.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think he was by himself at the time it happened, but whether or not he did everything alone is a good question.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm just, that was weird to me that that was treated that way. It's just weird, right? I mean, yeah, that's because people were saying we watched him literally set with his blowtorch. On fire. And I'm all about due diligence and due process. I'm all about those things. But when you see someone use their blowtorch to set it on fire, you're not just in possession of a blowtorch. You're literally using it to set fires. It's arson. So I don't know. This is all... I mean, it's just... I don't know. The way in which they're still running things out there. I worry for the people who are going to have to rebuild how long that's going to take. To get that done. How long it's going to take for that to happen. Because you have to think of the insurance nightmare. That's out there too. That's a huge nightmare. You know what I'm going to tell you. DeSantis. He was at Mar-a-Lago with a bunch of Republican governors. This was Sunday evening. And then the video of this is just coming out. And the reporters. It wasn't all just friendlies. Because Trump just lets reporters come in. He's not like Biden. He doesn't terrorize the media. And audio soundbite 13, DeSantis just busted their ass in this. This was epic. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 03 :
for the president-elect or a president to be criticizing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Is it appropriate for people in your industry to try to create division and to try to create narratives any time these things happen? Now, you're not as interested in doing that because Newsom is a D. If Newsom was a Republican, you guys would go try that. You would have it nailed to the wall for what they're doing over there. And I know we've dealt with it. We just assume in Florida, anytime something happens, it's going to be politicized by the media. So you guys sitting in judgment of Donald Trump, I mean, excuse me, I think your track record of politicizing these things is very, very bad. OK, last question.
SPEAKER 19 :
You would nail him to a wall. That is such a great response. You could tell he got ticked off. Because they kept asking... The questions that they were asking and the excuses that they seemed to be intimating for Newsom, it made him mad. I watched a long clip of it. That's the important part that we got. But you could see he's just getting madder and madder, standing over there like, uh-uh, I ain't even... He's best when he's allowed to be himself. Because he's really good at handling the media. Here's another example. This was... This is Audio Sunbite 14. It's a little longer. This is a master class and answering a question while neutralizing a fishing expedition for sensational headlines. This reporter wanted a narrative. You got DeSantis there. You had Matt Gaetz who left his Congress. I'm not a Gaetz fan, and I've made that very clear and nothing personal. This is just I just I think that he has no idea about tactics or strategy, and I've never seen anyone so politically toned up in my life. That being said, he left his elected seat and then he's saying that he's thinking about running for governor. DeSantis turns out in 27. He's he would be up against Byron Donald's and a whole bunch of other people, which, you know, and the press immediately wants to use it. They were trying to find some kind of division. Right. The press. What did I what did I say on Jesse Waters earlier this week? And what did I say the other day? that the media wants to find any kind of crack, any kind of division. If they have to play to people's egos or play to tribalism, they will do that. So they were trying to see if they could get DeSantis to, I guess, like stand against Trump over Gates or something. I don't know what they were looking for, but this was a masterclass in how to handle the media. Audio Sunbite 14.
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Just a reaction to Matt Gates mowing a gubernatorial bit.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't really have a reaction to it. I mean, it's so far away for that race to happen. You know, I think my thing is I had to do a special election to fill that seat because he resigned from the seat. I wish we had full strength in the House to help the president get his agenda done. That's where the fight is right now. Florida, you know, the fight was in 18 here when we were at a crossroads. If you look now at the results across the state, the left is lying in ruins. The Democratic Party is on the mat. So we've got it handled here. I think the people need to be up there fighting for President Trump and to deliver on his mandate. And so any congressman should be wanting to go up there and do that. And we expect all our Florida congressmen to actually deliver on these promises.
SPEAKER 03 :
Governor DeSantis, have you and President Trump spoken about the possibility of you serving as Secretary of Defense?
SPEAKER 15 :
We speak frequently. We haven't really gotten into any particulars on anything. I think we're looking forward to being able to be helpful in any way we can. Clearly, as governor, I think we'll have a better future these next couple years than we've had the last four. Our success in Florida has been in spite of the Biden administration, not because of it. Now I think we're in just a good runway. These are just great answers.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely great answers. He just just neutralized because they were on a fishing expedition. They wanted a sensational headline. They wanted to be able to say, oh, DeSantis goes against whatever Trump favorite Gates or something like that. I don't know if Gates has a shot in hell at, by the way, winning even the nomination for governor's office in Florida. I mean, he's he he got his seat because his dad's been in office for a long time. It's a family that's been in elective office. It's kind of dynastic down there. And I'm immediately I'm just allergic to that kind of stuff. I just just I have visceral reactions to any kind of dynastic anything. I'm so such an American. I can't help it. And but he gave the great answers like I wish we had full strength. And he's right. He's right. He made a really great point on a number of different levels and just, you know, smack their ass and then neutralize their argument. It's great. That's that's how you handle the press. We have more on the way, including this unconditional discharge. This goofy case. They just want to be able to say felon. And a couple of things. Colorado, they're trying to push a gun ban, another gun ban. We've got that. We've got a whole bunch of stuff. As we move, our partners. who helped bring you the program. It's our friends at ReadyWise. ReadyWise is always ready, even if you aren't. And I'm telling you, out of a lot of the companies out there that make claims, ReadyWise really is it. I mean, they are really good, good survival food. Survival food doesn't have to taste horrible. It doesn't have to be low quality either. And ready wise is neither of those things. It's high quality premium survival food. That's not only sustenance when something goes sideways for you and your family, but it's also comfort in a crisis and beyond because it's made so well. These are U.S. ingredients. packed in a U.S. plant, sent to you from that plant by U.S. workers. So you know the chain of command for your food. I don't know of any other company that can say that. You know the chain of command for your food from start to finish. And what's more, they have an in-house team of culinary experts that make sure everything that you buy is meeting your nutritional needs, your caloric needs, the healthy carbs, protein, all of that. And they have an array of product choices to meet every budget, like the emergency one-month bucket supply, the two-bucket bundle, the three-month bucket bundle. Great taste. And like I said, comfort in a crisis and beyond 25-year shelf life. Visit ReadyWise.com. Use promo code Dana20 at checkout for 20% off of your entire purchase. ReadyWise.com. Promo code Dana20 for 20% off.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Is When the Levee Breaks by Zeppelin, is that just not one of the best songs ever? I'm just telling you. The TikTok band going to SCOTUS. And they're battling for survival, TikTok, in the United States as the decision over its fate is now underway. I don't know. I just, I don't know why people are defending it so much. It doesn't help when you have politicians who are like, yeah, we got to get rid of TikTok. And then they're like, TikTok's great. I'm not on it. I just don't have time, and also I can only watch so many videos of people looking at the camera. It's an insufferable epidemic.
SPEAKER 18 :
The Supreme Court just came out and said that they're looking to uphold that ban. That's what the SCOTUS just said. I got this one minute ago.
SPEAKER 19 :
They're looking to uphold the ban a minute ago. So they're good. So it's good. And unless they're able to get like a net. Well, you can't. You can't appeal it.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right.
SPEAKER 19 :
So I don't know if you guys saw this. Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado was reportedly kidnapped by Maduro in Venezuela, you know, because they have free elections and all that good stuff there. Right. In Venezuela. Isn't that how it works? There's a couple of different reports of how it happened, but she was apparently reportedly freed after she was violently intercepted, is how it was described. And she left her hideout to protest Maduro. So that's... You know, if you want to know where free and fair elections don't happen, it's there. Novak Djokovic said he was poisoned by lead in his food after he was detained over COVID during the Australian Open. He had refused to get the experimental injection. And he said he was poisoned by food that he ate while he was detained during that 2022 whole thing. He was in a Melbourne hotel and they said, he goes, I was fed some food that poisoned me. And he monitors his diet pretty strictly. It's like a thing that he's actually pretty famous for. GQ did a whole piece on it once. So he said that he had flu-like symptoms and he had an emergency medical team treat him when he got back to Europe. But he said it was lead. Somebody poisoned him? That's good night. Bank of America is bracing for massive bond losses as yields soar. New headline. The sharp rise in rates since the end of their third quarter has widened losses on bank securities portfolio on their portfolio. And it could become an investor issue again when banks start reporting their fourth quarter results. That's like next week. Excuse me. Beginning of next week. And let's see here. We got a couple of other things as well, which we're going to talk about. The president saying 100 percent help for. people affected by the fires out in California. We're going to have to revisit Hurricane Helene here. And this also happened this morning. Four injured after a Delta flight aborted a takeoff at a snow-covered Atlanta airport because it's been snowing in Atlanta. They said it was about 9 a.m. local time. They told passengers to duck down and evacuate after the plane accelerated to take off. They said they had ongoing severe weather. There were people who were treated on the scene. Everybody's okay now, apparently, but they said it was due to an engine issue. Stick with us. We got more in store next. Pain can really affect your life, so you should consider a New Year's resolution. And it's not about taking it easy or slowing down. It's about making 2025 the year of feeling good again, the year of doing more and living more and waking up excited every day. And you can do it by trying Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, it works by supporting your body's response to inflammation. And Relief Factor doesn't just mask pain for a short time, it helps to eliminate it. It's like turning back the clock on pain so you can feel like you did years ago. Whether it's neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help you feel better. Become one of the over 1 million people that have turned to Relief Factor. Trying Relief Factor is easy. Get their three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. Whether it's neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help you feel better. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this second hour. And we're following everything with the fires and everything else. And it's I mean, it's the arson now as well, because that's the other thing. Now they're saying that they've arrested a couple of people for arson so far, which you knew that some of this was going to be arson. You just knew it was going to be. One of the guys was even I'm looking at this. finding this video, one of the guys was even caught on video. And you have a blowtorch and you're using it to light stuff on fire. It's kind of a big deal. In the meantime, in New York, the president faced sentencing in this stupid... I hate this stupid story because it's such a fraud. The whole thing is so dumb. It's that Stormy Daniels hush money case. Lorraine's written about it quite a bit over at Substack. And the... decision it's a weird one so the judge had imposed a jail sentence and under new york state law because they were the lowest level of felony jail sentences are not mandatory they wanted to just be able to say he was a felon so remember this is the case where uh he paid money to stormy daniels and i don't care how look there's two things that are happening here yes i understand the people who are arguing about the morality of it okay that's a separate thing set that on one side and then this then i'm going to talk about you can set on the other side regardless of how you want to look at it on paper it's a business arrangement that's just the way it is you there's certain things with regards to morality that are not actionable in the way that Alvin Bragg wants to make them actionable. And so Trump had already said that he had given Stormy Daniels money. He came out about that and had said that, uh, The way that they had logged it in their financial record keeping, that's what New York State wanted to go after. They were saying that it was a bookkeeping error. Regardless, it's your money. You should be able to do whatever the hell you want. So at its core, I reject this whole story. I don't even like talking about it because I think it's stupid. You are making a huge issue out of a non-issue. So they were saying, well, it's a bookkeeping error and you should have stipulated such X, Y, Z at all. the most, at the most, you could maybe, I really don't think you could, but you could make the argument that it was a misdemeanor in the manner by not following precise New York law with regards to keeping records pertaining to this whole thing. You could maybe make that argument. But that's not what Alvin Bragg did. He went beyond that. He was trying to say that there was an additional crime that they would not articulate in any of the charging documents, an additional crime that they weren't actually going to bring a charge for, that they weren't even going to instruct the jury to fully consider, an additional crime that makes this, for the sake of argument... expired misdemeanor, it elevates it to where they can charge it as a felony. And they barely made it an E-level felony charge, which was the lowest level. So he was never going to be up for jail time because the jail sentence by New York law with an E-level felony is not a The judge had to consider the fines and the charges for that. So what Judge Merchan did was give Trump what they call a no penalty sentence. And they call it an unconditional discharge. So there's no jail time. There's no probation. There are no fines. But it goes on his record. They just wanted to be able to say that he was a felon. They, I mean, pun intended, trumped up a charge to say that he's a felon. Let me put this in a different context because they were trying to make this out to be an NDA. I've signed NDAs. NDAs are commonplace. The people who are talking about how sketchy it is to have NDAs have never been in an important enough position to have to sign one. Yes, that is to be mean because I see these people all over social media throwing their weight around going, oh, well, NDAs. No, literally, if you've never had to sign an NDA, you've never had to work at a place that was considered like high risk or anything like that for whatever reason. In fact, low risk, regular everyday businesses have people sign NDAs. It's par for the course. It is not an unusual, exceptional circumstance. Literally, everybody signs NDAs. I sign DAs to work with people I work with. The people who work with me sign NDAs. It's literally boilerplate. So that argument that, oh, Trump had her sign an NDA and all this stuff, that's like sketch. That's actual commonplace. So does that mean you took hush money because you signed an NDA and you get paid for signing an NDA? I have literally entered contract negotiations that have an NDA that goes along with just the negotiation. And I have literally told people that my silence costs. So if you want me to sign an NDA, you got to pay. I have literally told people that at the negotiating table because it's a non-starter for me. And that's not taking hush money. That's a business arrangement. So that's why this is so stupid. So it would be like you say you get a job at some company. I don't know. Pick a pick a vocation and you go through, you know, you sign your paperwork to work for the company, the company, you sign your contract and you sign your NDA and you get, you know, like a signing bonus. Is that hush money? I mean, that's if you were Trump in New York, they were they would say that it's hush money and that because you didn't write hush money in the ledger, that that's somehow a misdemeanor, although it's passed. It's beyond the statute of limitations. So it's kind of moot. But what they'll argue is that, well, you probably didn't report it correctly because you were hiding something else. Now, we're not going to tell you what that something else is. We're not even going to bother mentioning it in the charging docs. And when we instruct the jury to make it during deliberation, we're going to tell them to just bypass whatever they think it is. It exists. And we're just you have to have it exist so we can elevate this to a felony. That's what happened here. Imagine you having to go through that. That's why this is so stupid. I don't even like talking about this dumb story because it is literally a straw man argument that they just they trumped up so that they could call him a felon. That's the only reason. It's the dumbest. Now, there are other cases where you look, you can sit here and be like, well, you shouldn't have done anything with Stormy. You can have that argument all day long. I'm not telling you you're wrong or telling you not to have it. But what's stupid is them weaponizing the justice system to go after him for that. That's how dumb this is. This is lawfare. This isn't justice. This is lawfare. Masquerading as justice and justice for what? Who's heard in this? That's the other thing. It's so stupid. I don't even like talking about it. I get so mad talking about it because it pisses me off because it's a non-story. It is a stupid, fabricated, lawfare situation that you're expected to take seriously by the legacy press. I don't take it seriously. I think it's a joke. It makes a mockery of our justice system. I feel stupid for even talking about it on air because it's such a dumb witch hunt story. Of all the things to get mad at Trump about, this is not one of them. it's not it legitimately isn't and i will i have no qualms in pissing off everybody criticizing someone's precious lawmaker over x y or z i have zero issue this is one of the dumbest things i've ever had to talk about in my entire professional career it's a stupid story it's hard to even explain because there's no legal basis that's why it's so weird Never before has anything like this been done in New York. Never before has anything been cobbled together like this in the justice system. They fabricated it so they could get a conviction and say felon. That's why it's so weird to talk about. Because I've had listeners go, well, what was the other thing that elevated it? I would love to know. I'm sure the jury would too. So it's so dumb about all of it. Kane knows. I get ticked off any time this story comes up because it's stupid.
SPEAKER 18 :
I heard Andy McCarthy saying that they were trying to make the underlying crime the 2016 election that they're claiming Trump stole that.
SPEAKER 19 :
They're saying that he—the argument is that the reason that he paid Stormy Daniels, according to the prosecutor, is that he was—it was— Election interference. I feel you. He was trying to help his own campaign by keeping the Stormy Daniels stuff out of the news. And so that's why. And they're arguing that that's election interference. Did they argue that with John Edwards? No. Because some of that money actually came from assets in New York when Bunny Mellon was giving him cash. Did they argue that with John Edwards? Did they argue that with Anthony Weiner? No. Did they argue it with Bill Clinton? No. I mean, do you want me to sit here and run down the list of all these Democrats who made their side pieces? Sign like NDAs or I mean, we can sit here and do it. The reason it wasn't done with them is because, first off, there was no legal foundation for that to even that case to even be built. Number one. Number two, they didn't do it because those people were Democrats. Look, I get it. There are things I criticize Trump about. You guys know I'm very forthright about it. This is not one of them. And so when I see people that I've always thought previously were smart, pretending that this is a big deal, I lose respect for them because this is a stupid story. There's so many other things to talk about. And this is a headline today. This is a stupid headline. You have people burning to death in California and these jackasses in New York with this stupid fabricated witch hunt. This is what they're pushing today. It's so dumb just so they can say, oh, he's a felon. He can't own a gun. He's a felon. He's not even going to be able to really travel. He's a felon. Well, he's got diplomatic immunity as an elected official. So that's a stupid, you know, but still there's some considerations here for what? No penalty, no probation, no jail time. And they didn't even actually articulate the underlying crime that elevated this to the lowest level classy felony in the state of New York. Now, of course, he's going to appeal the sentencing. He'd be a moron to not appeal the sentencing. Think about it. There are some left-leaning prosecutors in New York, more left-leaning than Alvin Bragg, that did not want to touch this case. And it's not because they're weaker as communists. It's because they're smarter legal strategists. They know at some point, and it's going to take time, but at some point, this is going to get overturned. You just, this is only, this only happens in New York. Outside of New York, this falls apart because you don't have the partisan pettiness as the framework to keep it all together. It's only in New York. So there, for the people who are asking, that's why I don't talk about it because I get mad and it's stupid. It makes me hate the justice system more than I already do. It makes me hate government agencies more than I already do. And I'm trying to be, you know, we're not even a first week in the new year. I'm trying to be lighthearted for everybody. I don't want to talk about this stupid story. It's so dumb. Imagine, and this is with... Somebody who has, you know, all of the name recognition and everything else. Imagine what they're doing to average everyday people. Look at Dexter Taylor, an innocent black man who's sitting in jail because he's black. I've never said anything like that before. That's true in this case. He is a gun owner and he's a conservative and they went after him because he is a black man. gun owner and a black conservative. And that is dangerous to their narrative because the left does not want minorities to leave the party. They have to be Democrats. I've talked about this for years. Democrats think they have a patent on you. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So I have two. This is crazy. So in this shoplifting scheme, I had a listener that sent this to me, and they got my attention by going, uh-oh, D-Lash, clean up on Isle Brown. It's from the Miami Herald. And there's also a story from Fox 13. They got the... CCTV footage, deputies are searching for a couple that are accused of stealing $500 of items from a dollar store. The suspect, the woman intentionally defecated on the store's floor as a way to distract while the man she was with began to steal everything. Polk County deputies are investigating. They said that Ms. Dookie is on the run after a messy burglary at the Mulberry Family Dollar Store. So they walked in. He walked around the store, gathered $500 worth of products like Gain Tide, Clorox. And while he was getting that, the woman distracted everybody by dousing on the floor. And an employee had to clean up the mess she made. It's a poo and run. I, and they're, they're literally, how do you not find them? How do you, I mean, go into a dollar store. You, okay. Something is wrong with you. If you're like, okay, here's my idea on how to steal from family dollar. I'm going to go and poop on the floor and you can just grab everything, throw in a basket and let's run.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
That whole last question, that whole last part would have worked fine without the first part. Well, that whole needing to poop on the floor isn't a need, but how do you, okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
How much time do we have here? I don't like public restrooms. I hate them. I'll explode before I have to use them. It's a thing. It might be TMI. But my question is, how does a woman... How do you just do that in public, like theatrically? You just do something on the floor like that. I know it's part of your shoplifting scheme, but how do you get to the point where you're like, okay, I'm saving it up. I'm going to go and dookie on the floor the family dollar.
SPEAKER 18 :
Seems like you have to plan your eating 12 plus hours in advance.
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That has to be... That's like... That has to be timed out. I don't know. Oh, gosh. A Florida man went on a smash and grab at a St. Pete Publix. Oh, well, at least he didn't dookie in the floor. He went on a string of smash and grab burglaries. Corey Kendrick, 11 vehicles stealing the items inside. They think he's responsible for other other thefts and that more charges could be coming. But apparently he did not care about any of the videos as he's just on camera running through smashing everything like full view. Great CCTV footage of him. And a Florida man suffered severe injury while selling fireworks illegally. He was selling them literally off the side of the road in a U-Haul van, and he blew off two of his fingers. Stick with us. Caltech, longtime friend of the show. I'm a huge fan of what Caltech does. I'm a huge fan of their firearms. Everything's built right here in the US of A in Florida. They have got a great story, great all-American story. And as we head into the later part of January, this is all about the same time every year that Caltech unveils the new things that they've been working on. This year is not going to be any kind of exception for that. George Kellgren, who's the president, founder, designer, mad scientist. He's actually one of the few major firearms designers still alive today leading the way in innovation. You know, they invented the micro compact pistol category. They came out last year with the lightest, thinnest double stack nine millimeter on the market. That's the P-15. Everything they do is quality made right here in America. They got the fold-in half carbine, the sub 2Ks, that whole family, that whole line. They have the KSG shotguns, the RDB bullpup series, and they stand behind everything that they make. Now, they're going to be dropping some new product later this month. I'll be at SHOT Show. broadcasting live for that industry event. So there's going to be some new product and we'll talk all about it when it happens. You can visit Keltechweapons.com, sign up for their newsletter, check out their social media, and you can also get on the inside track so you can be made aware when they drop new stuff. Innovation Performance Keltech, K-E-L-T-E-C, Keltechweapons.com.
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It was wild. We just started seeing all these cars pull up. and groups of men running off our street, going up to the doors of these houses. And we weren't sure what was going on. I'm thinking, are these people here to help my neighbors? I hope so. And I left and then my husband talked to the police and said, what are those guys doing? These guys don't live here, get them out. My next door neighbor said, his quote, there were like 100 people that came up on scooters and were trying to get into any and all houses on the street.
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Looting. The looting has begun. And the DA down there now, he ended up beating the source back DA. Was saying, look, we're going to prosecute everybody. We're going to go after everybody. Nobody's going to be... If you're doing this stuff, we're coming to get you. So good on them for laying that out. Because previously... I mean, when people would loot stores, they weren't doing a single thing. This is just, it's, man, it's bad. Like, basically the size of Manhattan has burned. More than. Manhattan was what, 14,600 acres? Over 20,000 has burned. That's just the Palisades fire. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this third hour this Friday. And you've got this. Audio Sunbite 4. Biden was remarking on this. This has to do with the debris and some of the cleanup recovery efforts. Listen to this.
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This morning, due to the magnitude of the disaster, I was talking with the governor. He requested if I could increase the federal funding that was authorized under this legislation from 75% to 90%. We're increasing it to 100% of all costs to be covered by the federal government. for both the Fire Management Assistance Grants and the elements of what they call the Disaster Declaration. So today I'm announcing that the federal government will cover 100% of the cost for 180 days.
SPEAKER 19 :
So that's, he's covering 100% of recovery costs for six months. They gave all of the people in Appalachia who were dealing with the effects of Hurricane Helene, they, uh, They got to check out all their motels. Was it January? Oh, tomorrow. Tonight at midnight. They said FEMA said due to the incoming winter storm, we're extending our transitional sheltering program for just 24 hours to households scheduled to check out if you still need assistance. So that's like about 3,500 families in that area. They're like, okay, go. They said that FEMA tried to evict these hurricane victims hours before the storm went through. they've there have been people on the ground there who have been taking videos of these people working at these shelters and They said it's wild it's wild like they've they they had these people have nowhere to go it's over 3,000 families 3,500 and They were told okay. That's it. That's it. That's all we're gonna do for you. Now. You got to go and Told to get out That's just so that's amazing. How I I am without words, but that's what they're telling everybody. No, no, no, you've got to go. So Los Angeles, they get 100% covered. They were giving them money in North Carolina, but they had to pay it back, right? Isn't that how it went? They would get money, but then they had to pay all of it back.
SPEAKER 18 :
And they had to pay their full property taxes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER 18 :
On homes that washed away.
SPEAKER 19 :
Was that last week or week before?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, last week.
SPEAKER 19 :
Unbelievable. I know that was right before Christmas. They had to pay all their property tax like that Friday before we were off air. That was the deadline. They had to pay property taxes. They said that they had no catastrophic events that that fall into exclusion. And so they had to pay property taxes based on assessments that are now inapplicable.
SPEAKER 18 :
So officials in California clearly, through neglect and inept activity, have ruined what's going on in California, costing the locals a lot of money. But now they're asking the federal government for more money as well. And we're just going to hand it over to them to the tune of 100% when this was mismanagement. The Helene thing in North Carolina had nothing to do with mismanagement. That was absolutely natural disaster.
SPEAKER 19 :
Although I will say the response was mismanaged because it's Democrat run.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, without a doubt. Horrifically mismanaged.
SPEAKER 19 :
But you're right. Because in California, in fact... It's their mismanagement that caused it in Los Angeles. Let me pull up. Forgive me. I have a million tabs open here. I don't even know how my computer functions, quite honestly. You don't see the tabs I have open. If you're opposed to all the tabs, then you would be having a stroke right now. The... Karen Bass, because I think it came out just last week that she had asked for further cuts. They were already going through the 24-25 fiscal year with a $48.8 million budget reduction. And one week before these fires, she called for an additional $49 million in cuts. And that would have shut down 16 fire stations. Now, keep in mind, this is after Cal water, fire and water, all of that. The state agency said that this they said this back in fall. in I think in September and October, actually, according to my notes, they were warning people all the way back in August, because they had two years of record rain. So they had all of this that contributed to a lot of vegetation overgrowth. And then of course, you know, typically, It starts getting really dry going into December, January. That dries up. You know, everything turns brown again. And then the Santa Ana winds start. And then you just have the perfect recipe for a massive firestorm. Not only were they stopping efforts to clear out underbrush, but literally a week before the fires, after months of being warned that they were going to actually be in a prime wildfire season and that every element of of the perfect storm exists for a major wildfire. She was demanding an additional $49 million in cuts to the fire department. And that would have completely closed, completely closed 16 different fire stations. Oh my gosh. So I had, she gotten those. I mean, it's already bad. They're already they've already had firemen say that they don't have enough firemen. They've already had them say that. I can't even imagine. I'm just like, how else they wouldn't have been able to survive. Now, in addition to that, this is the Los Angeles Times. Hold up. Let me pull this up. they came out and said they had this big story this morning. Pacific Palisades Reservoir was not only empty when the firestorm exploded, but it was also offline. It's the Santa Ynez Reservoir. Now, you actually can see the reservoir when you fly into L.A. When you fly into L.A., depending on the flight path, and I've flown over it, you can see it. It's up in the Santa Ynez Mountains. And it's actually, sometimes the pilot will point it out for you. It's totally empty. Completely, totally empty. They let all of the runoff that they had from the two years of record rain just go right back into the ocean. They didn't do anything to catch, they did nothing. And then they emptied this reservoir. What was left of it. Here's my question. How do these people sit here and go, yes, climate change, it's such an existential threat. Also, we're not going to do anything to we're going to keep the reservoirs empty. We're going to make sure that our hydrants don't work. I mean, the bottom line is they don't have the infrastructure. California doesn't have the infrastructure to deal with it. And it's not an uncommon occurrence for California. You have the winds that were really crazy and that contributed to it. But, you know, the other factor that contributed to it was the horrific land management. There are more stories. I would sit here the rest of the hour and I could just recount all of these different stories that span a three-year period where they are warning California officials, whether it's LA Times, whether it's San Francisco, whether it's local media there or KTLA. They did all of these reports where they were saying that you know, you have officials and people who are into fire science and land management that are warning that these steps need to be taken in order to, you know, do as much as possible to quote unquote fireproof areas or to make it to where any kind of wildfire could at least be contained. And the other problem is, That they have in California is their developments. Everything is so dense. The developments are so dense. The houses are right on top of each other. But what's more, the newer builds have to go along with new regulations, which require like concrete walls, like literal firewalls. There was an architect who was tweeting about his properties. None of his properties burnt. This architect and he builds like exclusively in Southern California. And he was saying that none of his properties burnt, but he also had pretty. What's the word I'm thinking of the land? He had like no greenery in his landscaping. So the landscaping, this architect, and it was all like really modern looking houses. It was stones. It was materials that actually are kind of flame retardant, concrete, brick, stone, things like that. And then anything that had to be wood, because one of the problems with California is that wood is more absorbent when you have shifts in the earth. So it's It's a lot harder for structures that are stone, concrete, and brick to withstand major earthquakes. And so that's why a lot of the frames, a lot of the stuff is wood out there. But what his firm did was they reinforced all of that with concrete, with certain paneling, a bunch of stuff. All I know is that they use materials that are not receptive to flame. And none of his properties were burnt. And he had a picture of one of his houses in the Pacific Palisades where everybody else on either side, front and back, were burnt down to the ground. but they didn't have like the lush garden greenery that you have come to associate with that area. And they think that that saved them. And they also think that having that big concrete, you know, firewall literally between that property and the properties next to them saved it, which then brings up, I know it's really expensive, especially in California for existing properties to, like if you're retrofitting stuff, you know, if you're going out and you're trying to make things more flame retardant, Because newer construction has to go by newer regulation, but a lot of the existing structures there are old and it's very expensive to, or pre the new regulations that I think went into effect in like, what, 21, 22? And so it's really hard for, it's expensive to do that. So what's the solution? What do you do? I mean, if you're not going to have the federal government that's going to properly manage federal lands and you're not going to have the state to properly manage state lands and you're emptying reservoirs and you're making it to where you don't have enough water supply. What the hell else? You know what in the world? It almost doesn't even matter what you do. They got lucky. That architect was like, the only reason it didn't burn is because the two concrete firewalls on either side. That's the only reason they're like, that's how crazy this fire is. And there's only so much individual homeowners can do when the state and the federal government are not being a cooperative partner. What else do you have? I don't even want to know what the insurance nightmare is going to be like for these people. Because think about it. If you're an insurance company, can you cite, well, the federal government didn't do this, so we don't have to pay. Or the state didn't clear it out. Look at all these warnings. Like I just told you, all of the stuff that's in the media, that's all evidence that insurance companies can use to say, well, the state didn't do it, so... That's like a class action lawsuit against the state. Wouldn't there be a class action lawsuit against the federal government if they're not properly managing federal lands and you know that it's absolutely instrumental in creating these fires? I mean, I'm made of questions right now. As this gets going, we may have to have on like insurance experts that specifically deal with this type of stuff because I don't know what recourse they're going to have. It's going to be a mess.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right. So David Muir, I don't like him. I don't like anybody. But did you guys see this? So he was wearing this. What was it? A fireman's jacket that had the ABC logo on it?
SPEAKER 18 :
It's like the raincoat that emergency people wear.
SPEAKER 19 :
And he had it pinned in the back. Now, did he have it pinned in the back because he was trying to look fit? Or did he have it pinned in the back so it wouldn't blow around and make noise? I don't know. You know what? I feel like we should give them as much benefit of the doubt as they give us. That's my rule. By the way, sidebar. David Muir and George Stephanopoulos hate each other. Hate each other. You think that you have seen inter-workplace drama with chicks before? Apparently, what's going on between Muir and Stephanopoulos is out of control. It is the worst workplace drama ever. Just some fun gossip for you. They both want each other fired. Uh... A pizza chain expansion was their plans to expand with was thwarted by the city council because the town's kids are too fat. The city council is like, we got our all our kids are too fat. We got too many fat kids here. It's in Manchester. The pizza chain wanted to expand and they said, no, it's in Britain. They said, no, all children are too chonky. And they said that they are not allowed to explain it would and it would not do any justice. They said it adds nothing to the food and drink offering of the town. And so they were not going to they nixed it. Imagine that because parents don't monitor what their kids eat. This business can't expand. Luigi Mangione's case was hit by delay as prosecutors reveal when he's going to next. I don't care about this guy. They're trying to make him out to be some kind of folk hero. It's disturbing. Oh, I was reading about this earlier today. So a lot of these muscle building protein powders apparently have lead in them. They're in organic and chocolate-flavored products. They said that there's lead and whatever the hell else this cadmium is. I don't know. Yeah, whatever. I don't know. Does it taste good? I don't know. Yeah, but they said that there's stuff in it. So what are the brands? I don't know. They're not going to actually tell you right outright. You're going to have to sleuth it. But some of them, when they said organic and chocolate, I got some ideas. Stick with us. We've got more in store.
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One important topic I want to talk about is that we did have a drone incursion yesterday at the Palisades fire. Unknown exactly what time this small drone hit the wing of our CL-415 Super Scooper aircraft that we currently have on contract from the province of Quebec. The pilots were unaware that they hit the drone. It wasn't until they landed at Van Nuys Airport that the maintenance staff noticed that there was a fist-sized hole in the leading edge of the wing inboard of the landing light. That super scooper will be prioritized for repair 24-7. It should be flying Monday. We only have two of them.
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You know, I'm listening to everything that he's saying and I am so distracted by the sign language guy. All the sign language interpreters, they got to be theater kids. I mean, he's a good one. I mean, I don't even, if you just like turned off what the guy was saying and I was watching him, I'm like something scooping sad, mad rain and what that is. Don't know. He's writing and flying and what? What is that?
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It's like jazz hands and sign language together.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, I feel like I'm watching Rent Part 2. I don't know. He's so expressive. And he spit his tongue out like that at one point. And then the reindeer came down. He's so expressive, his face. I love... I used to know, like, I know the alphabet and sign language, and I only know a couple of things in sign language, but it actually makes me want to learn sign language because that would be so fun to just really get in, you know, like, especially if you go to like concerts and you do the sign language at concerts. Okay. Anyway, let me get away. He was just really distracting this guy. He's really good at his job. He's like, this is his best moment right now. So what they're telling you is that some jack wagon flew a drone up and it hit one of their water support. They only had two of them. What is it, two of them? Or three?
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That's all they have is two.
SPEAKER 19 :
Two! And it was on loan from, I'm trying to think what province. A Canadian province. Was it British Columbia? It was on loan from a Canadian province. And they had some jack wagons like, well, I'm going to get my drone out. I'm going to go fly my drone, take some drone images of the fire. And he clipped the wing of this thing. I hope that drone was destroyed. They said they're going to find out whose drone it was because now they had to take it out of the air. They had to take one of the two water support that we don't even have. First off, how the hell do you not have that, California? How do you have to get it from Canada? What do you do with all your tax money? What do you do with it? It can't all be for Gavin Newsom's hair gel. Jiminy. So, I... I don't know. I'm amazed at this. But they said that, you know, it's... You know, sorry, we... You know, got to take it out of the air. Got to take it out of the air. And so, you know, tough. We're not going to... We're going to be short one... Super scooper is what they call them. Super scooper aircraft. And the drone... Don't you have to register your, well, if it's a certain size, don't you have to register the flight path and all that stuff? Is that true? I know you've got to register the drone, no matter what size, like if it's like a smallish size and up. And some of the drones, you have to have a pilot's license to operate. I'm just curious. Why are they having to contract stuff out from Canada, though? Why do you not have that? Oh, my gosh. They spent billions upon billions of dollars over two decades for a high speed rail from L.A. to San Francisco that legit never got built. The company was a French company that was going to come over and do it. And they were going to have it done in like three years. And they said that there was so much corruption and so many pigs at the trough that they just said, screw it. They left, and they went over to a nation in Africa, and they did it in three years. Had their high-speed rail very similar to what they wanted in L.A. Done. In the meantime, all they got was 1,600 feet of an unusable rail overpass built. That's it. That's it. That's one-fourth of a mile. That's it. Over $12 billion to build it. 1,600 feet. That's it. I ran that in track when I was in high school. 1,600 meters, not feet. So somebody thought they were going to take their drone out. They hurt the plane. I'm just so goofy. People stop it. Nobody cares about your stupid drone footage. There's enough footage out there. No one needs your, I got to hurry up and provide footage to the tens of people that follow me on social media. Oh my gosh. Oh, if that was my neighbor, I'd be in jail. Can we talk about the sign language guy again real quick? Because he's happy. He makes me happy. Like I'm hearing this stuff and I want to get real mad at the stuff that the fire chief is telling us. And then I see this sign, this like Bradley Cooper looking dude who's like all very expressive. He's so expressive. There's so much joy in this guy's face. He's like, I'm giving you bad news with a whoop. And that is bad. And it's so great.
SPEAKER 17 :
I've heard of bad lip reading, but bad sign language?
SPEAKER 19 :
Bad sign language, I could do that. I could totally do it. Look how, he's so expressive. I would rather, much rather pay attention to what he's telling me than what the fire chief there's telling me. Because he's boring. That guy, making faces, spitting his tongue out. It's great. Like he's disgusted by this story, clearly. So, I love it. That guy's the real MVP right there. It is wild. And then you've got Gavin Newsom begging Joe Biden to dispel wildfire disinformation. Check this out. This is new. This is new coming in. And this was just earlier today. Gavin Newsom in a video call with the vice president and president for the next like week and week or so there. He wants to prioritize dispelling wildfire misinformation. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 07 :
I ask you, we've got to deal with this misinformation. There are hurricane force winds of mis and disinformation lies. People want to divide this country and we're going to have to address that as well. And it breaks my heart as people are suffering and struggling that we're up against those hurricane force. forces as well. And that's just a point of personal privilege that I share that with you because it infects real people that are out there, people I meet every single day, people the mayor's been meeting with. And they're having conversations that are not the typical conversations you'd have at this time. And you wonder where this stuff comes from. And it's very damaging as well. But we're here to get the job done.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I mean, why don't you just fight the fires, you jack wagon?
SPEAKER 18 :
We're concerned about the theories on how it started as opposed to fighting the actual fires.
SPEAKER 19 :
Fight the fires first. Good grief. Fight the fires first. You know what gets me? When they held their press conference, LAPD was saying there's no probable cause for arson regarding the guy who was arrested. He was arrested in possession of a blowtorch, but what they're not telling you is that there were five witnesses that were independent of each other, and they were the ones that apprehended him because they caught him using the blowtorch to literally try to set fire on things. And Now, all of a sudden, California is acting like it's very concerned about due process. Well, you know, just because you have a just because you have a blowtorch in your possession doesn't mean you're setting fires. But when people catch you using the blowtorch to set fires. Yeah, you got probable cause. They're so they're pretending to care about due process. California, the state, the first state in the nation to enact red flag law. Remember how I warned you a lack of due process was dangerous. OK, OK. Now they're going in full reverse. Oh, no, we got to be careful to process just because, you know, he has a blowtorch, except that's not how they treat anything else. They have red flag law, which would just assume that you're guilty because red flag law. Let's let's put it this way. Say the guy wasn't caught trying to actually set fire to something. Red flag law applied in this situation. Again, remove the variable of a firearm, substitute a blowtorch. They could say, well, if my people said that he's dangerous, we're going to have to come take his property and basically render a penalty against him. He'll have to go clear his name in a court of law after the penalty was rendered. Now you see. But they're pretending to care about due process, which is amazing. Another quick note. So different topic. So John Cornyn's office sent to us Was it yesterday afternoon came? They sent us an email saying that Cornyn is introducing a bill for concealed carry reciprocity nationally. We're like, oh, this is interesting. Because he worked to pass Joe Biden's gun control compromise. So, OK, what's this about? So we asked him to come on air with us next week about it. And what they say, Kane, they're just too busy.
SPEAKER 18 :
i'll quote it here it said next week is slammed with nominee hearings in the senate and his schedule is jam-packed being on five committees so because of that we'll have to uh connect dana and him a little later so or their idea was me just talk to him not even on air which i have no interest in doing right so he's just too busy i'm just curious i'd like to talk about so i followed up and said i'd be very flexible in timing next week and i'll be in touch
SPEAKER 19 :
What is if only there was a way that you could join even, you know, like video on your like your mobile device. It would be great if there was like a way to do that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Make that happen.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, just a couple of minutes because everybody does interviews all day long up there in the rotunda. Or even just if you if there was a great mobile device that you could even if it's just audio only.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's yeah, they've had those for a while, I think.
SPEAKER 19 :
yeah have they yeah maybe they don't maybe his office is unaware of them they were tied to cords till about the late 80s yeah early 90s and now they're wireless i mean well maybe they just don't have it in dc yet i mean i'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt you know am i just saying so we'll We'll keep you up to date on that because I would like to talk to him about that, that proposal. That's one of the things that Trump said that, you know, I'm just curious. I'd like to have a conversation about it. So let's we'll keep an eye on that and let you know if he still continues to be too busy. Usually that's how I get. We have lawmakers that always reach out to us that they want to promote a book. if they want to promote whatever. And I'm really weird about lawmakers. If a lawmaker never wants to come on to talk about voter criticism of anything that they've supported, or if they never want to answer difficult questions, but then they want to come on to promote their books, I don't let them on. I'm like, if you can't come on when we need you to come on to answer to voters, don't think that we're going to have you on to sit here and sell something for you or promote something for you. Happy to give you the names of the lawmakers that do that on the regular because we got a list.
SPEAKER 18 :
We have a list of ones that actually their main focus is to communicate with the American people. We have some that are great. We've got the Jim Jordans and the Chip Roy's and the Thomas Massey's. They love coming on because they love communicating with their constituents.
SPEAKER 19 :
And sometimes when they have to reschedule, they can almost be TMI about it. Right. Like, oh, they're sick. It's coming out of both ends. It's so bad. And you're like, okay, I didn't need to know all that. That's great. You just say that they're sick. I understand that you want to make sure that it looks like you're not ditching us. We get it. Some of them are really, really great with communication. But other ones, like we've got some that are like, oh, we got a book out. Or we have an editorial that we want you to share. Or this or that. But we don't want to come on to talk because heaven forbid you might actually ask us a tough question. They're really weird. And so... We match that energy and we're weird back. So there's there's. Yeah, it's fascinating. So we'll see. We'll see if he because that would be, you know, is that something that could pass the Senate? The House, I think it could pass. So we'll see, you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
not able to catch all three hours of the dana show subscribe to the full podcast and get news and laughs delivered in short easy to digest episodes ideal for your busy lifestyle on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcast welcome back to the program dana lash here with you and uh this is we're rolling into friday rolling into the weekend i said conclusion of our first hour before break i thought in my head i said third hour but i didn't uh
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, some of the stuff that comes out, listen to this, Audio Summit 24. This is a Democratic representative trying to defend why the hydrants were basically empty. Listen.
SPEAKER 13 :
I had a briefing yesterday when I was with the FEMA administrator, and there is enough water, but what there was was a problem that occurred right at the height of the fire. which is that they had to turn down the electricity in order to make sure that the fire wasn't aggravated because of the electricity. They need electricity in order to pump water. So they turned that down, and then at the same time, there were so many hydrants that were being used all at once.
SPEAKER 19 :
So you see, because all the hydrants are being used at once that you couldn't get all the water to those hydrants all at the same time. So see, it's an issue of people all using the hydrants to put out the fire with water, not an issue of water. So she's trying to argue. That's the dumbest thing ever. That's dumb. Stop it. We're not idiots. These people think you're stupid. They think you're absolutely a moron. And then they had another little brush fire that broke out. At some point, like I said, it's arson. Well, we know at least a couple of them. Arson. Do I have time for one more thing? I don't think so. Because we're rolling towards days today in stupidity here. I can't believe this first New Year week back. I mean, it's not even the first full week yet. We've had fires and all kinds of nonsense. And it wasn't even burn loot murder. What in the world? It was just Democrats. Okay, same thing. All right, today in stupidity, Cain.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, this is out in L.A., the Los Angeles Police Department, believe it or not, caught these five citizens, caught an arsonist in the act, and yet this is what they had to say. Juan, go ahead and play this for us, will you?
SPEAKER 06 :
An additional investigative step. They responded, they interviewed this suspect.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
After the interview and additional investigative steps, looking at some additional evidence that was present, they made the determination that there was not enough probable cause to arrest this person on arson or suspicion of arson.
SPEAKER 19 :
Not even on suspicion of arson? They only pretend to care about due process except for red flag laws. That's as dumb as this guy who showed up, a hot dog vendor, to provide hot dogs and snacks for free. to firefighters who were fighting the fires. He showed up, just started distributing them for free. Somebody snitched on him to the health department and they rolled up to harass him while the neighborhoods burned because he wasn't licensed to sell food. He wasn't selling it. He was giving it away. Morons. We got folks sign up over at Substack chapter and verse. Find us YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Stay warm. Stay safe this weekend. Back with you Monday. God bless.
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SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
Hello and welcome to this Friday edition of Washington Watch. I'm Joseph Backholm, a senior fellow for biblical worldview here at Family Research Council. It's my pleasure to be sitting in for Tony and with you this afternoon. Quick news. Note and reminder, as we prepare for the transition of leadership in Washington, we believe this is the season calls for heightened spiritual vigilance and unity. So during this pivotal time from now until January 20th of 2025, we invite you to join us for Operation Prayer Shield, a collective effort in which we'll seek God's divine protection and guidance. So to be part of the effort, text SHIELD, S-H-I-E-L-D, to 67742. You'll receive weekly alerts, daily prayer points, and more. Again, text SHIELD, S-H-I-E-L-D, to 67742. Today on the program, fires continue to devastate California. A local pastor will join us to give a report from the ground and tell us what we can be doing to help. Also, a court ruling out of Kentucky has stopped the Biden administration's efforts to redefine gender. We'll tell you the details of that decision and what it means practically for people's lives coming up as well. Also, in our worldview discussion, is God the one burning California? And what should we think about the fact that the Beatles song Imagine was sung at Jimmy Carter's funeral? We'll discuss all of that coming up in the program. But first, our headlines. Different groups of House Republicans will be meeting this weekend with President-elect Trump at Mar-a-Lago, starting later today with the House Freedom Caucus.
SPEAKER 05 :
I talked to the president about those meetings and his idea. It was his idea to bring in small groups of House Republicans to come together and just have fellowship together and talk about the issues and talk about the vision that we have for the year ahead of us.
SPEAKER 09 :
That was House Speaker Mike Johnson yesterday speaking with reporters. What can we expect from some of the discussions to include, and what are some of the conclusions that Republicans will be hoping for? Here now to discuss this and more is Congressman Russ Fulcher, a member of the House Freedom Caucus. He represents the 1st Congressional District of Idaho. Congressman Fulcher, welcome to Washington Watch. Joseph, thank you so much. Appreciate your program. Great to have you. What do you anticipate will be the focus of the meeting with President Trump and the Freedom Caucus?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, first of all, President Trump is a businessman, and he knows the importance of relationships and a positive rapport. And I'm confident that part of the reason that we've been invited is to work on that rapport and build that relationship. And that's a good thing. And I'm very thankful for the opportunity to do it. I know that my colleagues are as well. I'm sure that as we go through these discussions this evening, that it's going to have to do with the debt ceiling. It's going to have to do with the upcoming reconciliation bill or bills and all the budget content that comes along with that. But that's the genesis and I think the baseline for what we're going to be talking about.
SPEAKER 09 :
So do you expect these meetings to be as much relational as they are policy?
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, I really do. And at the same time, it's important for those of us that are on the fiscal conservative side to be able to communicate to the president just how important it is to us that we address some of these debt-related issues, Joe. So if we've got a $36 trillion-plus debt that's just simply unsustainable, and I know that the president has requested a debt ceiling increase. A number of us opposed that. But it wasn't because we were opposing the president. We're simply concerned about the spending that's coming out of Washington, D.C. And so that policy is going to be talked about a lot and the importance of changing the paradigm in Washington, D.C. so that this is not just always growing the spending side of the ledger, but we're also cutting things, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there are very narrow Republican majorities in the House. Do you think that gives the House Freedom Caucus more leverage when it comes to negotiations about things like spending and raising the debt limit?
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, no question. But to be honest, everybody's got leverage when you're when you're this evenly yoked, if you will, Republican Democrat on the House floor. And so I think right now we've got about a one person margin that can go on a swing that will that will potentially change as some of the the the members that got appointed to or potentially appointed to various offices get replaced. However, any way you slice it, it's going to be very, very narrow and everyone's vote, everyone's opinion is going to be very important. It's extremely important that we know where everybody is at before we go out there and cast votes.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Do you have a sense for the Trump administration's priorities when it comes to spending in the budget?
SPEAKER 01 :
Not by line. Well, I shouldn't say that. Border, of course, first and foremost appears to be on the agenda, and it should be. We've got a lot of damage that we need to try to fix regarding the border. Right on the heels of that is going to be energy-related issues. The United States has tremendous potential to once again embark on more domestic energy production. and energy exports, which also gives you leverage on the foreign policy front. So those are gonna be right up there. Of course, the foreign wars issues and how that gets dealt with is gonna be right there as well. And then just the overall swamp, if you will, and how you deal with these major bureaucracies and the leverage that they have gained over the years. We've got a full plate, Joseph, and I think that that's probably going to be on the discussion roll tonight.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Congressman, apropos of nothing, probably, why are all these meetings always happening at Mar-a-Lago? Everybody seems to be going to Trump's house to do everything.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, well, I can tell you I left 25 degrees in Washington, D.C. this morning and it's 70 degrees here. So maybe that's part of it. But seriously, I think it's wherever the the incoming president is. I think is where you need to be. And right now, he extended an invitation, and I think it's probably most convenient for him to do it where he lives. And the least we can do is to accommodate that. Once again, this is not only, I think, for rapport building, but it's going to be discussions of the major policies that we're all going to be voting on within a few days. And so if we need to come to Florida, And in order to have those discussions, I am more than happy to do it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And the weather, of course, is a great bonus. Congressman, we mentioned the very narrow majorities that exist right now and kind of the challenge that presents. What do you get – what's the sense of the mood in Congress? Is there like – A lot of anxiety because of how narrow those majorities are and some of the differences that have flared up in very recent years? Or is there a sense of optimism that we really do have shared goals, we expect to get on the same page, we all want to get on the same page, and we think we can't?
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, that's a great question. I just have to respond by saying since the election, it's like a dark cloud has been lifted over Washington, D.C. Of course, I'm on the conservative Republican side and there's more evidence there of that. However, I would argue, Joseph, that even my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are somewhat encouraged because. They don't have to necessarily defend all the stupid policies that they've had to defend for the last four years. And I apologize about being so blunt, but let's be honest. My friends on the other side of the aisle are very good at towing the party line. They're very good at following and defending what the administration on their side puts out front. And some of those policies, quite frankly, are just plain stupid. And I'll start with electronic vehicle mandates in a very short period of time, transgender issues, open borders, and all the things that come negatively with that. These are policies that my friends on the other side of the aisle have had to defend. And that's why, in my opinion, they lost the election. That's why the Republicans came out on front. And I think that everyone is relieved that we're just not having to defend stupid anymore. And again, I apologize for the bluntness, but that's just the reality as I see it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I think there are a lot of voters who would agree with that. And to that point, the 119th Congress has already been sworn in. You guys are already busy working. A lot of attention given to the reconciliation bill and how we're going to get that passed. There's a debate over whether that should be two bills, one bill. What's your preference and how do you see that going?
SPEAKER 01 :
I don't particularly have a preference, and that's going to be discussed tonight as well. But here's what is important. We need to demonstrate that we are willing to cut spending. And so part of the discussion tonight will include things on the docket that can be done. If we simply put workforce requirements, for example, on some of the Medicaid recipients that are able-bodied, there's over $100 billion there. If we get rid of these electronic vehicle mandates, there's over $100 billion there. If we get rid of this IRS Army funding that the previous or the current administration wanted to do, there's billions and billions of dollars there. How about the Federal Department of Education? These are all things that uh our as far as is i'm concerned and my conservative colleagues this is low-hanging fruit and that's just a start so we intend on communicating that to the president frankly i think that he has already exhibited a willingness to listen to those things but uh more than anything we've got to be able to demonstrate to the american people who put us in charge who gave us this responsibility and this privilege of leading that we're not going to just continually run up the credit card. And so that's going to be a real focus for our discussions.
SPEAKER 09 :
Congressman, are the 80,000 new IRS agents going to survive?
SPEAKER 01 :
I hope not. And I don't think so, to be honest. Because again, I'm going to go back to my blunt comments earlier. I think that falls in the category of stupid when we start looking at doing things like that. And those are some of the policies that just don't need to be there. You know, there is a argument, a fiscal argument for raising the debt ceiling. I did not support it prior. And I know at least I think I know why the president wants to do it. That's to give some fiscal running room for default and the bond markets and all of that. However, when you do that, you send a message to the people of America that you're willing to increase that credit card limit that we don't have backing for and you're willing to spend it. I'm not saying necessarily I wouldn't support it for fiscal reasons, but I would need to see some spending cuts with it. And I think my colleagues are of the same mindset.
SPEAKER 09 :
Programs like Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare are something that a lot of people have come to depend upon and expect kind of the third rail. Is it possible to reduce spending in the way that you would like to see so that we see that $36 trillion debt go down rather than up without touching those kind of programs?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, that's a conversation that's going to take longer than what we have. However, I think the short answer is long-term, no. That's simply too big of a part of the overall budget that is on kind of an autopilot. And it's not been solvent for some time. It does need reform, but it's not a simple one to address. But there are some things we can do in the meantime. And so we want to try to attack first things first. But to your point, I think that will have to be addressed if we're going to solve this problem long term.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. It's easy to blame politicians. But in reality, there's a lot of people in the public who want what comes with that debt. And we're all going to have to take our medicine if we're going to fix this, I think. Congressman Fulcher, thank you so much for your time today.
SPEAKER 01 :
My honor. Thanks for having me on today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Coming up, we'll get an on the ground update from the historic wildfires in Los Angeles from a pastor of one of the oldest churches in the area. Stay with us right here on Washington Watch.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Joseph Backholm sitting in for Tony today. As devastating wildfires ravage Los Angeles County, the toll on the community is staggering. With over 35,000 acres burned and at least 10 lives tragically lost. These fires are among the most destructive natural disasters in California's history. Tens of thousands have been forced to evacuate, and as critical fire conditions persist, the heartbreak and uncertainty weigh heavily on all those affected. Communities hit particularly hard by the Eaton Canyon fire include Pasadena, Altadena, and the town of Sierra Madre. Residents are grappling with immense loss and are searching for hope. Joining me now to provide an on-the-ground update on the latest and what the needs are is Dr. Josh Swanson, senior pastor of one of the oldest churches in the area, Christ Church Sierra Madre. Dr. Swanson, welcome to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks. It's great to be with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you for taking some time from I know very important things that you have. Give us an update about how things are in your community.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so it's been really devastating on so many people in our church family. There's been a number of families in our church who have lost literally everything. I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday who had lost his home. He was up in Altadena and he said he drove up the street and he said he just saw person after person standing in front of these empty lots, almost like people at a graveyard. you know, standing over a grave. And so it's really, really devastating. And the loss is immense. And so, you know, we're seeing on the one hand, people grappling with immense loss, but we're also seeing really beautiful ways in which people are stepping up and caring really well for each other. And so we see both a mixture of grief and loss, as well as hope and the love of God kind of emerging in this place right now.
SPEAKER 09 :
We know that fires are constantly moving and understand they're still burning. Is the threat ongoing in your community or has it moved through?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so the threat has moved through for now. They have lifted some of the evacuation mandates in Sierra Madre. And so more of the residents are coming back. Our family was evacuated and we returned home last night and talked to many other families who have kind of had the same thing. So we're not in imminent danger right now. And we're thankful for that. I understand that on Monday, It sounds like winds are supposed to pick back up again. And so they're trying to get a handle on things over the weekend to prevent the communities that are most at risk from being in danger.
SPEAKER 09 :
What you're dealing with is just a husband and a father in your own right, but also as a pastor of a broader conversation, you're going to have church on Sunday. What are you thinking in terms of how are you going to talk about what it is that you're experiencing and what is the way for Christians to navigate this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so one of the things that we've done as a community last night and then the night before that and then tonight we're going to do it again is we've just had these prayer gatherings where our community gathers together for support and for sharing and just to pray together. And so we've had people who have lost. who have dear friends that have lost everything. There were people at our gathering that I went to a couple nights ago who had themselves lost everything. And so to come together and to be able to share with one another about where we're at, we're feeling disoriented and confused or maybe some people oddly at peace in the midst of the chaos, and then just to pray together. So that's what we've been doing over the last couple days. And as we move into Sunday, we're also going to spend space in our church service in prayer. We're going to have somebody get up and share who's lost. a home. And yeah, and we're just going to lean into God and to him as our great rock in the midst of all of the chaos. So that's the plan moving into Sunday.
SPEAKER 09 :
Amen to that. And I know it's very early in terms of the reaction, but do you expect this to create hostility amongst your community and a closeness to a God who would allow something like this to happen? Or are they going to look for perspective and hope that the gospel might be able to provide?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I don't at all expect hostility. I actually look forward to seeing our community, as they have been over the last couple of days, really unite together. And you see first responders, you see government officials, you see church leaders, you see leaders in the community and teachers and this sort of thing kind of working together toward a common end. And so that's really hopeful for me. And so I... And I do think that in periods of chaos and crisis, oftentimes people do look to God, and so we look forward to that. I had a conversation with a guy the other day who had lost his home, and he just said, you know, I'm recognizing in losing everything – what really matters to me. It's relationships. It's God. And I think that this moment can really provide that for a lot of people, kind of a wake-up call in some respects. But yeah, I haven't experienced anything like hostility, and I wouldn't expect that in the future. I think people will work together and unite together across denominational lines and people who believe, people who don't believe, working together for the common good.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's encouraging to hear and we will pray for more of that. But Josh, last question I think I have time for. A lot of us from around the country are just observing in horror what's happening there in California and our hearts go out. How would you like us to pray? What are the practical things that we may or may not be able to do from our vantage points in Iowa and New Jersey and wherever we are around the country, just being sympathetic? What would you ask us to do?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, thank you for that question. And thank you to everyone who is watching this, who you've been praying for us and we don't know one another, but you love the body of Christ and your heart is broken over what you're seeing. So thank you for your prayers. And there's been a number of people that have given financially to organizations in the area that are working. That's something people can do. Our church is collecting funds and resources to distribute to those who have needs. And people I know are rallying together to support us in that way. And that's really helpful, you know, way to support. And I think one thing that that has just kind of occurred to me over the last few days in watching how people have lost everything has felt like supported during this time is what came to mind is that phrase, think global, but act local. And in many respects, what is carrying people through is the body of Christ being the body of Christ. checking in with each other, caring for each other, loving each other, having each other's lives.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm gonna have to cut you off right there. Do that. Because we are out of time. We will try to do that, bear one another's burdens. Dr. Swanson, thank you much for joining me today. Godspeed. Yeah, blessings, thanks. We'll be right back here on Washington Watch.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Joseph Backholm sitting in for Tony today. Yesterday, a federal district court in Kentucky issued a decision blocking the outgoing Biden administration's unlawful attempt to change the meaning of sex in Title IX of the Civil Rights Act to include gender identity. Now, Title IX is a federal law designed to create equal opportunities for women in education and athletics. We touched on this briefly yesterday, but we want to get a legal perspective today. So here to discuss the ruling in the state of Tennessee versus Cardona is Matt Sharp. He's a senior counsel and the director of the Center for Public Policy at Alliance Defending Freedom. ADF attorneys represent a West Virginia high school female athlete and the Christian Educators Association International in the lawsuit alongside the state of Tennessee. Matt, welcome back to Washington Watch. Hey, thanks for having me on. Well, give us your rundown of this ruling and what it means.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, this was a colossal ruling. We've had several courts across the country that have issued a preliminary injunction against the Biden administration's unlawful Title IX rule, this rule that impacts women's privacy, safety, fairness, and sports. But what the Kentucky court did for the first time is actually vacate this rule. That means it's essentially wiped off the books nationwide. So whether you're in a red state, blue state, no matter where you are, The Biden administration and any future administrations cannot use this rule to try and force a school or college to allow men and girls locker rooms, restrooms on women's teams or violate any other rights to free speech or parental rights.
SPEAKER 09 :
How do you expect life to be different now post this decision?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you think back, 2016 is when this whole battle first started. We had the Obama administration issue this dear colleague letter trying to rewrite Title IX to include gender identity. So we've had these ups and downs that all culminated with earlier this year, the Biden administration pushing this Title IX rule. So across the country, we've had parents, female athletes, and others reach out saying, our school's telling us they have to allow a boy in my girl's locker room, in the restroom, on even overnight school trips. And everybody kept pointing to this rule and to what the Biden administration was doing. So this federal court ruling, wiping the rule away, is going to really take the government's boot off the neck of schools across the country and make sure that they're doing good policies that protect privacy, that protect speech and parental rights, rather than undermining those important constitutional rights.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know that's very encouraging news to a lot of people who are watching and listening to our conversation who have been, you know, dazed and confused by the developments over the last four years in particular. But Matt, this is one lawsuit involving Title IX where we got this good decision, but there are many more. How do you expect this decision out of Kentucky to impact all of the other litigation around Title IX?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, as I mentioned, when this rule dropped, Alliance Defending Freedom, we filed five different lawsuits across the country on behalf of students, teachers, even school districts challenging this rule. And so far, every single one of those courts in our cases has issued a preliminary injunction, but it's been limited. It's only applied to the specific states involved, the specific school districts involved. So this ruling, number one, makes a difference because it has that nationwide application. But second, because this is the first time the court has actually said we're going to vacate the rule, we determined that the Biden administration didn't have the authority to do this. that as the court described, it actually flies in the face and turns Title IX on its head to try and say that a man can be a woman and have access to women's spaces and opportunities. So we think this is sound ruling. What we hope to see is that in those other court cases I mentioned, the four other court cases that have been going through the process, that those courts are gonna adopt this same ruling. And so that we end up with court after court after court consistently ruling that this is unlawful, the administration doesn't have the authority to do it. What the next step is though, is while this takes the federal governments out of the role, while it takes it away from the pressure on schools, we still have a lot of states that are adopting bad policies. So you have like the situation in Connecticut where they as a state have adopted a policy saying men should participate in women's sports. So the next step is taking the same reasoning that Title IX doesn't require this and that it could actually violate Title IX to put men on women's teams and take that into states that are adopting bad local or statewide policies. So we've got a big victory at the federal level. We've still got work to do at the state level to go any place where they're trying to undermine privacy, safety or fairness in sports and challenge those policies as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a good reminder. Matt, why is this case different in the ruling? You mentioned the other cases where there were favorable results, but they were limited to the circumstances of that case in a preliminary injunction. But in this case, the judge made a much broader decision. Is that because the facts in this case were different or the judge just saw the situation differently?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's actually because this is what all of these cases were working towards. Every one of them, we were asking the courts there involved to vacate this rule, to wipe it off the books so that it couldn't be applied anywhere. The court so far had not reached that final determination. So this Kentucky case was the first one to sort of go to the finish line, to look at all of the facts, look at all of the evidence, look at all of the arguments and properly determine that if you look at Title IX and its original intent, that the goal there was to ensure women had equal opportunities in athletics and education, that that original intent was completely undermined by what the Biden administration was doing with this rule. So this is really the culmination of all of those cases. Every one of those other ones, this is what we're asking for as well. And so we hope those courts will follow suit and reach the exact same outcome. But again, the big part of this is it is a nationwide ruling. No matter where you live, the Title IX rule cannot be enforced against you.
SPEAKER 09 :
That is great news. Matt, very quickly in our remaining seconds, because we are seeing a change in administration, do you expect this decision to be appealed?
SPEAKER 08 :
We hope not. You know, we've only got a few days left in the Biden administration. We fully expect and hope the Trump administration will not appeal this and, in fact, start taking steps to enact better rules that protect women's privacy and safety and equal opportunities in sports.
SPEAKER 09 :
Matt Sharpe, thank you so much for your time.
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Thank you.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Happy New Year. Great to see you as well, Joseph.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we're going to cover a couple of stories, and I think we want to start with the fires in California, because that really does have the nation's attention. Our hearts go out, of course, to everybody who is suffering a tremendous loss. Did God do this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Joseph, this is kind of an age-old question. I think I first, as a young boy, had to think about a question kind of along these lines. It would have been the summer of 2004. I was living in Orlando, Florida, and we had three hurricanes blow through in a series of, I think, four or five weeks. And I think that's where I first started to really think about kind of what you would now call natural evil. And I think it's important for Christians to realize there is a distinction between natural evil, versus moral evil. I think moral evil is a category we're more familiar with. These are sins that are carried out by moral agents, individual people, whereas natural evil is kind of what you just observe, things that take place in the natural order. And I think it's important to note, Joseph, this is part of the consequences of living in a Genesis 3 fallen world. Romans 8, Paul makes this point, actually, that creation itself groans, creation itself longs for redemption. And so we live in a fallen world. Now, you know, we could look at some of the political decisions, Joseph, that have led up to why some of these fires are maybe as big and bad as they are. And maybe there is some moral blame there. But I think in short, this is a good example, such as a hurricane or tsunami of natural evil, the fact that we do live in a fallen world that, again, we see reflected in the headlines.
SPEAKER 09 :
Does that make us feel better about what we're experiencing? I mean, what's the way to process this, whether you live in a hurricane region, and a lot of people do, and they've had their lives ruined in that way, their homes, I would say, ruined in that way, and now you're seeing entire neighborhoods and maybe even towns just obliterated by these fires. Is this just, you know, we just chalk it up to we're unlucky?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I don't know if I would put it like that, Joseph. I think, you know, as a Christian looking at this through the lens of the biblical worldview, even, you know, unimaginable evil, we know, and if you're a regular listener to this program, you've heard me reference Romans 8.28 that says, all things work together for good to those who love God. You know, Christians do have a category that even the worst things that can happen in our lives can be used for good. They can accomplish purposes that we can't see in the midst of it. But, again, some of the images that my wife and I are watching on cable TV last night of people losing their homes and their possessions and just getting out by the skin of their teeth, I think the category that we as Christians have is, again, the category I mentioned earlier of natural evil. The fact that we live in a Genesis 3 fallen world, again— Theology is always just behind the headlines, and I think that is kind of the theological category. But again, as Christians, and praise God for some of the stories we're hearing of churches there in L.A. that are just doing heroic ministry, mercy ministry, and helping folks. Again, we have the category of prayer as well, and I think around the country, we need to be praying for our brothers and sisters who are living through something that, again, is pretty unimaginable.
SPEAKER 09 :
David, one of the things that we've observed from those who are observing this situation is the tendency to blame. And, you know, of course, sadly, we live in a world where everything is the fault of your political opponent. And so that's kind of an instinct that seems to have been hardwired into us. You know, somehow I've seen people blame Trump I don't know what the logical connection is there because he hasn't been president for a while, but certainly they do it. And, you know, oh, it's climate change and it's all you mean, you know, Republicans and conservatives who haven't done enough to stop climate change. And then you've seen from right to left. Well, you didn't capture the water because you cared too much about climate. smelt and so you didn't have any water to fight this thing and you did bad forest management because you worship the forest and you thought it was bad for people to go in there and clear the underbrush, so you've made this much worse than it needs to be. Now, how much logic there is to any of those arguments, you know, we'll debate that for a long time, but there does seem to be in kind of our human nature, this desire to blame someone when something bad happens. But you just kind of described, well, in a fallen world, Things are broken and things decay and there are storms and there are fires. And, you know, our life is just going to be challenging because we live in a world infected by sin. What do you make of the instinct to find someone to blame?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think that speaks to the human instinct to try to explain our lives. I think all of us are, you know, when something like this happens, you want an explanation. We are rational reasoning creatures and we're trying to explain. And for a secular kind of world that's almost post-christian in many ways i think the only rationale or the only justifications that a lot of people have is well there must be some sort of political problem that look for the political solution again the category that i described earlier of natural evil and of living in a fallen world that is an alien concept to a post-christian world joseph And so, again, I do think, you know, in the months and years to come, I'm sure there's going to be the political blame game. And some of the things that are being suggested by whether it's a CNN anchor or a Fox News anchor, there might be merit to some of these critiques on how the forests are managed and whatnot. But I think right now. As the fires are still raging, I would say that the first impulse of a Christian should just be prayer, praying that people, those who are made in God's image, are safe for wisdom, for the authorities that are on the ground, from President Biden all the way down to the fire chiefs there in L.A. County. I think that needs to be kind of the first impulse, first instinct of a Christian.
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And there's one other point that I hesitate to make, but I'm gonna make it anyway, because really the harm is ongoing and we are genuinely sympathetic for the loss that people are experiencing moment by moment in California. But Jesus in his Sermon on the Mount, in Matthew 6 specifically, gave us some wisdom that I think this is a great reminder of, and the fact that we should not store up for ourselves treasures on earth where moth and vermin destroy, or fires destroy in this case, where thieves break in and steal, but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven. where moths and vermin and fires do not destroy, where thieves do not break in and steal. And this seems to be a painful but important reminder of how temporary everything that we have is. And some of the neighborhoods that are being destroyed are some of the wealthiest neighborhoods in America and therefore in the world. And these are people who presumably Five days ago, felt a tremendous sense of security and financial security and that all is well in the world and in many ways. And then in a moment, they've lost so much of what made them secure. And again, while we remain sympathetic for that, it's a reminder of the fact that everything here is temporary. And if we hold too loosely, to material things for our security and for our joy and our satisfaction and our contentment, we may get a very rude reminder and we can't take it with us. And it's a good reminder to really store up our treasures in places where they are eternal and where storms and fires cannot take them from us. But David, let's pivot to the next story, kind of of this week. I think it's got some important worldview implications for us. And that's the funeral of President Jimmy Carter. And we know he died at 100 years of age, lived a long life. By all accounts, a good, honorable man. By many accounts, not our best president. You know, that's debated, of course, but this isn't the time to go over his presidential record. What were your thoughts from a worldview perspective, again, as you observed how our country honored him?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, a moment ago, Joseph, I used the term post-Christian, this idea that we've kind of moved into an era that is—we've moved beyond supernaturalism. We've moved beyond theism or Christianity. And yet— This week has reminded us that maybe we're not quite as post-Christian, or maybe another way to put this is that when something of the magnitude of a world leader passes from the scene, the only language that really can communicate the moment is language borrowed from the Christian tradition. So even in the cathedral, the National Cathedral built in the late 1800s, it took them over 80 years to build that. Even the architecture of that building, Joseph, is kind of based on the medieval architecture The idea is that when you walk into a cathedral with these huge, lofty ceilings, the impulse is that you look up. Well, Joseph, I'm sure you know this, but that's intentional. That's why cathedrals have been built that way. They're communicating the transcendence of God. And so even you have the kind of the vestiges, investments of Christian worship service yesterday. You had scripture readings. You had hymns, a beautiful rendition of Amazing Grace. And so, again, it's interesting that a lot of our culture wants to move beyond Christianity, and yet I think we're, I guess, Christian enough that, again, in a state funeral, the Christian vocabulary is really the only thing that communicates kind of the seriousness of the moment, the transitory nature of life. But I'm sure we can talk about other aspects of the survey yesterday, but those are initial thoughts that came to mind.
SPEAKER 09 :
yeah the architecture of a cathedral and indeed is a an exhortation and maybe even a tool to help us do what i think it's colossians to set your mind on things above not the things of earth right and it is an encouragement to look up because that's where we find ultimately our purpose and our meaning and and our creator But despite the, as you described, unambiguously Christian nature of parts of this service, there was another moment that was less Christian, and because The song Imagined by the Beatles was played. And we know that Jimmy Carter was a lifelong Baptist, self-described born-again Christian, an actual Sunday school teacher, not just a proverbial Sunday school teacher. So a committed Christian man. And then, at his service, honoring his life, the song Imagine was sung by the Beatles. Quick reminder of what this song says. Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try. No hell below us, above us only sky. Imagine all the people living for today. Now, that is... not a Christian message to imagine there's no heaven and there's no hell, because Jesus exhorts us to live with a constant awareness of the fact that there is a heaven and there is a hell. What do you make of that interjection into this service, David?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, John Lennon in the lyrics goes on to say also the idea that no religion too, no possessions. And what's interesting, Joseph, is we know that President Carter planned this to the minute. You know, presidents actually, I've been told, weeks into their presidency are asked to plan out their funeral in the case of a national emergency. So we know President Carter's fingerprints were actually all over the service yesterday.
SPEAKER 09 :
So he actually requested Imagine to be part of the service?
SPEAKER 07 :
which would be my understanding, because again, presidents are told that they need to plan this out. So again, a lot of thought went into this, that there wasn't anything that just happened accidentally.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's news to me. It felt like somebody hijacked it and wanted to do kind of what the secularists do whenever they're trying to be like poetic and philosophical, which is play the Beatles song, Imagine, because we've seen that in other contexts. But okay, continue your point.
SPEAKER 07 :
My understanding is, again, every president plans every detail out. But what's so interesting, Joseph, is the juxtaposition of this Christian architecture, Christian hymns, Christian scripture, and then basically a song to secular humanism. John Lennon, by the way, himself admitted that the lyrics sound a whole lot like the Communist Manifesto. Lennon himself recognized that. And I think the point I'll make, Joseph, briefly, is that here in our Center for Biblical Worldview, we talk about a lot how 6% of Americans have a biblical worldview, but 88% have a synchronistic worldview, meaning that most of our friends and neighbors pick and choose ideas and thoughts from this worldview. Then they'll pick some thoughts from this worldview. They put them together. That's their worldview. Now, because they're picking and choosing, almost like you go to a cafeteria, your worldview is going to have ideas, thoughts, thoughts. that really don't cohere. They're not coherent, but again, most people don't realize that or even care. And so I think this is a reflection of the modern age of, again, even a worldview that Jimmy Carter had apparently really influenced by Christianity. Nevertheless, these other ideas, these other thoughts clearly found a resonance in his worldview. So I think it really is in one sense that funeral yesterday is a parable of the modern age that wants to leave Christianity but it maybe isn't ready to make the break cleanly yet.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it does. It is kind of this syncretistic symbolism of very Christian and then very secular, all kind of compiled into one as if they are consistent. But that does seem to be an explanation of kind of the confusion that our country is experiencing spiritually in many ways. But I saw somebody, I think it was on Twitter, They said that if Imagine was ever played at their funeral, they would jump out of the coffin and make sure it was your funeral as well. I kind of share that sentiment, but hopefully that won't happen. I'm confident it won't be at my funeral, and it definitely won't be at yours. David Claussen, thanks for joining me today. I imagine it won't. God bless, Joseph. Well played on that one there, David Klassen. Thank you for joining us, friends. We'll see you next time here on Washington Watch. Until then, fear God and nothing else.
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And welcome to the Friday. It is the Friday, January the 10th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. After a day off in the market yesterday, this is Bill Gunderson, President of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our Chartered Financial Analyst. And we've got a good news and a bad news. The good news is the jobs market is still strong. It came in very good, those numbers, on this Friday. The Friday jobs report, the monthly Friday jobs report. The bad news is the bond market doesn't like it. Interest rates don't like it. Fear of inflation comes back into the market. And right now you've got the Dow down 579 points. to 42,056. The NASDAQ, which was bumping up against 20,000, is down almost 1,000 points from there now at 19,057. Remember, my first article of this year was about that NASDAQ valuation, and rising interest rates certainly don't help that situation at all. The S&P is down 1.6% right now, or 95 points. The Russell 2000 down one and three quarters, down 39 points. And it's the bond market, stupid, I guess you could say. The bond market's stupid, not the economy. The economy's good. It's the bond market that is hurting us. The 10-year right now is at 4.74%. which is just above that 52-week high of 4.70. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And, of course, that equation for valuation is earnings. multiplied by a multiplier PE ratio equals a target price. Nothing's happened to the earnings at all. They look very rosy for this year. They look very rosy for next year. The problem is the multiplier, the multiple. As interest rates go higher, the multiple shrinks a little bit.
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And we haven't been this high in the last 12 months. I mean, we're at a... We're at a point right now on the chart that we haven't seen since a level we really haven't seen, I guess, since right about around November of 2023.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I think I read that since the Fed started cutting rates, we're up 100 basis points.
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Right.
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Isn't that crazy? In other words, the Fed is wrong in the market's opinion about inflation. The market still fears inflation. And just to add a little bit of fuel on the fire here today, oil's hitting $77.07. I don't know what's up there. I heard about a big port in China that's having some issues that's causing a little bit of a clog. But that's 4.3% jump in oil, which is also inflationary, obviously. It's at $77.07.
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And it's a global jump in yields. I mean, I keep lengthening the chart and still haven't gotten there. I mean, you look at the U.K.' 's in the news today, and they're sitting at 4.85. And I ran the chart back 10 years, and that's the highest in 10 years. Wow. So, you know, it's not just the U.S. 10-year. It's kind of a global increase. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, volatility has been the name of the game really since right around Christmas, and that volatility remains. The oil and gas sector, energy sector, is the number one sector so far. in 2025. We ended Thursday or Wednesday, actually. The markets came back. They were down in the morning. They did come back somewhat. Wednesday was the day the quantum stocks sold off after Jensen Wang's comments. I have an update there on the quantum stocks. Some of those quantum stocks, the CEOs are starting to defend the sector And there was news from two of them today. And also there is huge news on the nuclear front here today. We have a huge winner in Constellation Energy. That's Three Mile Island, folks. That's one of the most controversial nuclear incidents. Not quite as bad as Chernobyl, but right up there. And there's really good news. That stock was up 20% the last time I looked at it. So that's helping offset some of the losses. The losses are occurring in big tech, AI. The hottest stocks in the market.
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What's unique is that Constellation Energy Purchase, usually the acquirer usually goes down. And they went up significantly as the acquirer.
SPEAKER 05 :
I sent out a message this morning. I believe that Constellation is becoming more of a Vistra model where they become a broker in energy. Because that's what the cow pine was. I remember cow pine for many years ago during California wildfires, of all things. And so that's probably what's driving that. So anyways, I didn't expect a good report like this, but we do have non-farm payrolls jumping in. by $256,000 in December. To be honest, Trump is inheriting a bit of a mess in 10 days. With the bond market being so sour and interest rates rising so much, that's hurting the stock market. And all of that Trump rally is long gone. I mean, it's been sold off, and now we're actually probably below where we were in those seven days, six days after the Trump election. So anyways, I would say that he is inheriting a bit of a mess. Then you've got California. Debt ceiling. I mean, debt ceiling coming up. Debt ceiling coming up. But interest rates really are the biggest issue, I think, right now. Fear of inflation. Okay, I grew up in Southern California. I'm a native. I was there for almost 60 years. Jeff Webster, my vice president, native of Southern California. We've been through this many, many times. I've personally been evacuated at least a half a dozen times. I remember as a little kid in kindergarten being evacuated and them telling us, have your mothers come get you. The fire is moving down the mountain. This was while we lived in Burbank and we could see the fire moving closer. And when I got home, my father was up on the roof. He had been sent home from his work. He was watering down the roof, which back then was shake shingles, which didn't take much to ignite those. And we had other many incidents in San Diego, wildfires all the time because, you know, it's a dry, it's a very dry state. You look here in South Carolina and, you know, we have greenery everywhere.
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You'd run into the marsh at some point.
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In California, it's very brown in the summer and in the fall, and they have not done a good job in managing... the overgrowth, the brush. They've done a terrible job of that. A lot of it's because of the environmentalists, etc. And the other thing they do a terrible job of, California actually gets quite a bit of snowpack. It gets a lot of rain, and it all runs off into the ocean. All of our rivers... end up basically running off into the ocean because they don't want to build any dams in California. They haven't built a dam in years. And, you know, so a lot of that water just goes to waste as it heads out into the ocean. Now you've got fire hydrants running dry. It looks like the management of the whole thing is totally inept. People are getting evacuation notices that aren't even near the fire. And the people sending out the notices are going, whoops, that was a mistake. They did it yesterday. They did it again today. It's just, you know, inept management and whatever causes that that. Los Angeles is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. The San Gabriel Mountains and Pasadena and Arcadia and Malibu and all those beautiful... Topanga Canyon. I've never seen such a fire during the years I lived there. This is the worst I've ever seen. And, you know, I mean, it comes right down to some of the stocks you own. We own Mercury General, which is a property and casualty and automobile insurance stock, and it has a big... uh exposure to california that stock broke below its uh support level just a little bit mcy mcy right and i sold it as a precaution it broke below its support level we sold it for a little bit of a profit i don't know seven percent or something that stock is getting killed today I think it's down 29, let's see, MCY, Mercury General, it's down 17.6% today. That's going to be an insurance nightmare. Imagine all the homes that have to be rebuilt. Think about all of the cars that were lost during this crazy fire. So, you know, right now the damage estimates are up around $135 to $150 billion, making it one of the most expensive natural disasters of all time. And it ain't over yet. More high winds predicted for next week. Okay, how much can Doge really cut from our bull? Are you late? And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show where we've got a sell-off in the market because of good news. Yes, good news. The jobs report came in 265,000. Beat expectations. The bond market selling off. Interest rates going higher. And the market selling off. The Dow down about 600 points right now. As we've opened up 2025, on a very volatile note, do we have any inverse funds in place? Yes. Because of the valuation situation, we have PSQ in place, which is inverse the NASDAQ one time. We have that in place in our large dividend portfolio and in the growth, large growth. In the more aggressive portfolios, we have QID in place. That's two times inverse the NASDAQ. So obviously it's soaring today. No, it's not taking away the losses from big tech. But it is easing it, and I may have to step up my positions there in those. We'll just have to wait and see. I'll be looking at the charts here throughout the day.
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A sea of red, and in the middle I see some inverse green, and then the constellation energy. The constellation is unbelievable.
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And then we also, in the trading portfolio, I have a couple. Oh, no, we also, in the emerging growth, we have EPV and QID. Right. EPV is inverse Europe, which is falling apart. I'll tell you what else is falling off a cliff. The emerging markets, VWO. So you have to ask yourself, if you've got a 401k, if you've got an asset allocation, check and see if you've got exposure to the emerging markets, which are basically Asia and Latin America, et cetera.
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Or pure international funds.
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Yes, international. I wouldn't own anything outside of the U.S., And, you know, where the traditional allocation model calls for exposure to these areas. Right. I don't buy into that. There's a lot more than age factors to take into place. There's world factors to take into place.
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Well, in a strong dollar environment, right, it's not good for foreign assets because when you take those stock returns and bring them back, when you do the currency exchange in terms of if the dollar goes up, that's a headwind for international-only funds or emerging market funds. And so if you look at the U.S. dollar, certainly since Trump was elected – It's in a pretty solid uptrend. Well, an America First policy doesn't bode well for international. Well, only strengthen the dollar, right? Exactly. Any tariffs that go in place, that's going to be a little bit more fuel right behind a strong dollar. Just not a good place to be, particularly at the moment. And emerging markets haven't been a good place to be. You've heard that allocation story for years, right?
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Now, there are three or so emerging market inverse funds, and there's China-specific inverse fund. But the emerging market, EUM, is one time inverse and EEV, I believe, is two times inverse, maybe even three, the emerging markets. And then we also do on DXD in our trading incubator portfolio, which is double short the Dow. And that's doing very well today. That's the green. That's the island of green in the midst of red today. And we are believers in hedging. We've also, you know, I've been trying to diversify away quite a bit from, you know, it's been the tech sector. It's been AI and all of that. And I've been lowering my exposure there.
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We've had some significant gains there.
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We've had some significant gains, and I've lowered my exposure because of the valuation of the NASDAQ. which impacts a lot of different things. Now, as I go through the charts, I've got about 600 to look at today. I always note a few that jump off the page at me. USO, that's oil prices. That's a breakout on oil. And I don't know what the driver of that is. There's some kind of clog in the system somewhere. It's not demand coming from China, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think it's demand driven. Cold weather might have something. Then the other one is UNG, which is natural gas, is having a big jump today. So we do have some exposure, a little bit of exposure to energy, mostly in the incubator trading portfolio. But we do have a little bit of exposure in, I think, in the ultra growth or the emerging growth portfolio also. How much can Doge... They're coming to a realization that, you know what, you take a look at a budget of $6.75 trillion, $5.3 trillion is fixed that you can't cut because it's Social Security, health care defense, veterans benefits, and debit and interest payments. That leaves about $1.4 trillion. But Musk thinks that maybe they can get a trillion. Hey, I'd take a trillion, right?
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And, I mean, that's another thing for today. I'm thinking, you know, obviously we had the good payrolls report. But then when I saw this, right, I'm thinking, okay, well, you know, does that mean that interest rates should be higher for indebted countries? Because, by the way, it's hard to cut that budget, you know. I mean, it's hard to get off the path once you're on it, particularly if things are legislative or built in already.
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A trillion of that budget is the interest payment. Okay, a trillion. You can't cut that one because that's the interest you're paying on the debt. And the interest rates are going up. Okay, the big winner today. This came out of nowhere, really. We have been an investor in nuclear. And, you know, the two biggest plays in nuclear are Vistra. These are big, giant utilities. And Constellation Energy, which has been around for a long time. You know, it goes back to Three Mile Island. Constellation Energy is headquartered in Baltimore, Maryland. Constellation is a $91 billion company. It pays a dividend of a half a percent, so we own it in our dividend portfolio.
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Which makes it not the old utilities that you think of in the past that were basically purely yield plays, by the way. So this thing only pays a half a percent. but a forward yield of just under 0.6%, which means they're also reinvesting into the business to grow power.
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It's a growth company, too. I mean, I look at the growth. They're looking for $8 in earnings this year versus $4.50 last year. Now, adding Calpine is going to make them even more of an energy broker, where they kind of control who gets the energy. It's kind of a deregulated market there, and that will be a good spot for them. It will make them more of a Vistra broker. And the Constellation is up 21% right now, which is strange because, like Barry said, usually the buyer gets hit. In this case, they are buying a growth company that's going to add to Constellation's growth over the years. It's going to be accretive, in other words. When we come back, news on the quantum, the beleaguered quantum computing sector. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, one of the big controversies on Wednesday was Jensen Wang's comments, who carries a lot of weight, that's for sure, as it relates to future technology. And his comments that quantum computing was 20 years off, at least in the future, just was a knife in the heart of the quantum computing stocks, which had made a big, big run. I mean, a lot of them were up 200%, 300%. Well, a few of them are fighting back here today. IonQ.com. Chairman CEO Peter Chapman issued an update on Friday. He said he expects bookings for the quantum computing company to be at the high end of its forecast. That he forecasts revenue could reach $1 billion by 2030. That's five years from now. $1 billion by 2030. Let's see how that stock is behaving in a rough market for tech, especially future tech. IonQ is up 8.8%, so that's actually a good sign. Rigetti, which is also in that same space, which got whacked on Wednesday, is up 5.7% today. QBTS is up 9.7% today. So I would just say don't count them out yet. Oh, and D-Wave would be the other one. Let's see. D-Wave is up 9.8%.
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And I think that's the CEO who kind of came out first and was saying, basically, we already have some actually generating revenue. Do you think Jensen, after the fact, was like, man, sorry, guys. I didn't mean to take your stock. They asked me a question. I didn't mean to. I don't think he would do it on purpose.
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It just seemed a little... Yeah, I mean, he really clobbered that sector. And, you know, others in that area of the market are coming back. D-Wave expects fiscal year bookings to top 23 million. Okay. So they are bringing in, I mean, there's a lot of investment going into this area. And maybe there will be some breakthroughs. And maybe there is some use for it now. I mean, the way these stocks are reacting today. That's what I would think, that you can't just count them out and say there's not going to be anything coming from them in 20 years. QBTS up, let's see, 9%. There's one other one, QUBT. QUBT is up 3.6%. So they're all bouncing. And they did come back quite a bit from their lows. But like I say, you know, that's why you own it in an incubator part of your portfolio. It's like a 2% or 3% overall position in our most aggressive portfolio out there. We own two of them, okay? Now, here's another one in the news today. MicroVast Holdings, they're trying to come up with solid state batteries to get around the lithium market. to get around a lot of things. And solid-state batteries would give electric vehicles a lot longer range. And they've been working on it for a while. Last I heard, Toyota was all in on solid-state, with Panasonic and a few others. Well, apparently, microvast has made a big breakthrough through one of the barriers. And that could happen in quantum also. MicroVast is up 40.5% today, MVST, following the company's announcement of a major milestone in the development of its true all-solid-state battery technology. This represents a significant advancement in battery safety, energy density, and efficiency, offering solutions for applications like data center backup, power systems, and electric school buses while also paving the way for innovations in electric vehicles and robotics. So that's one I put on my watch list. It has been moving, by the way. Did I have it? I didn't have it in my database. It's very small. It was 18 cents four months ago. It's in the database now. And I'm sure it will start showing up as an A-plus momentum stock. And we'll put it on our daily watch list. And there may be some opportunities. The thing about MicroVest, too, is they have... about three hundred million in sales right now uh... so this could be something definitely worth looking at into MVST now this wouldn't go into your retirement dividend income portfolio again this is this is outside of the spectrum this is it's just above venture capital really is where i place incubator type stocks i mean it's just above venture capital To get to being a publicly traded stock is a big step. That's a big step, Barry. You know, a lot of these venture capital stocks never make it to that stage. They get bought out or they never make it. So at least with the incubator, you've got a much bigger hit rate.
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It's like a batting average. Exactly. Yeah, it's a batting average. And a lot of times, too, it's... Sometimes it's just being aware of these stocks, right? I mean, there's so many different symbols and names out there. That's what kind of the app does in terms of sifting through all the needles in the haystack at some point, right? The cream is going to rise to the top, and that's usually where you see it first on the momentum side.
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Exactly. Okay, now, an IPO coming, and this thing is getting a lot of play, Newsmax. I've seen them advertising during their show where you can get in early and buy private shares. Newsmax has upsized its preferred offering to $175 million. uh and you know they've ex they've exceeded the 150 that they were trying to raise i think newsmax is a pretty good player i listen to newsmax as one of my sources i get more raw news there than from the others i think newsmax could be a significant uh competitor to fox newsmax obviously leans conservative The symbol is going to be NMAX, and we'll add it to the app. It's not a public company yet when it goes public. Okay, let's see. There is a biotech in the news today, Precision Bio, which is D-T-I-L. That's stocked up 22%. It's a gene editing company. A phase 1, 2 trial for ornithine transcarbamylase. Try selling that. Try doing a commercial with all of those disclaimers for that.
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I'm always glad when you tackle those things.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a rare metabolic disorder. Maybe that's what I've got. I don't know. you know how you always think you got something and you're looking it up on wikipedia oh no i think i got this but anyways dtil now a stock that's not doing well macy's is going to close 66 more store how many will be left i don't know well they have 718 so there's your answer It's now a $4 billion company, and of course we know that Nordstrom's recently, it's going private, will no longer be a publicly traded company, and it will basically be owned by Mexico, Mexican ownership. Liverpool, which is kind of a Nordstrom's of Mexico, bought a big stake or maybe the whole company. Okay, let's see what else we got. Well, we've got some earnings today. Let's begin with Taiwan Semiconductor. It doesn't get much bigger than that. I mean, were it not for Taiwan Semiconductor, they make about 80% of the chips out there. Someone's got to make the chips. You've got to realize that the Qualcoms, the NVIDIAs of the world, design the chips. But it's Taiwan that takes those designs and spits out a product. And also Taiwan is in a very volatile area of the world that we hear about all the time. And he said it again within the last week. Xi said, well, it's just a matter of time before we unify China.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, Elon has made that point. He said the same thing. That's what he said.
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It's in their charter. You know, Taiwan Semi had a phenomenal quarter. Their sales were up 41%. Their earnings were up 57%. That's got to bode well for NVIDIA, I think.
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You know it has to bode well, right, for all of the chip makers you would imagine. I mean, it's certainly good news. It kind of gives us a quick peek into what the potential will look like.
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The strength of AI is still there. It's still the best growth story in the market. There's no question about it. AI is the best growth story in the market.
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It's just what's the priced-in expectations, right? It's one of those things where, to me, they've got very visible good, go-forward earnings, right? The question is, how much are you paying for a dollar of those earnings? And that's kind of where the story is at.
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Well, TSM is up $1.18 on a day when the NASDAQ is plunging, and the yield on TSM is 1%. We have owned it in the past. I just got a little nervous when China started circling Taiwan with those battleships, you know, and flying over it and all this and that. I just don't want that added risk. But it is a great company. Okay, we'll be right back. We've got some more earnings starting to trickle in here. This is the Best Docs Now show.
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You gotta go where you wanna go, do what you wanna do, and win whoever you wanna be. You gotta go where you wanna go, do what you wanna do.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. And once again, Taiwan Semiconductor saying that it's the growing demand, AI demand, which Taiwan produces chips for Apple, NVIDIA, AMD. It's a very, very important company. And it also produces chips for Google and Microsoft. So it is the picks and shovels company, along with ASM Lithography, that makes the equipment. But Taiwan is the factory that produces the chips. And that stock is having a very good day in a very weak market today. walgreens shares rally as turnaround gains traction okay well you know look there's a there is a big industry in our industry a sub sector of the industry that loves good value turnaround plays that sees assets uh that have value and you know there's a walgreens on every corner practically they're well established across the country uh But, you know, then again, I saw all the false starts. Remember Rite Aid, how many times there was a false start, false start, Rite Aid's coming back, and they just kept getting deeper and deeper and deeper into debt. My issue with Walgreens is it's not a growth company anymore. It becomes really an asset play, a value play, where you go in, And that's the old model, Barry, Mr. Chartered Financial Analyst, of looking at the assets, looking at the intrinsic value of the company. That's a whole different discipline.
SPEAKER 04 :
Book value approach. Yes. Essentially, if you were going to break that thing apart and sell it off piece by piece, what would it be worth?
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I mean, do they own any of the real estate, or do they lease everything? There's all kinds of things that come into play. It is the dominant player in that space. The stock is up 25%. I've got to believe there was a lot of short interest in Walgreens, thinking that it's going the way of Rite Aid. How many, you know, you pass an old Rite Aid store, and it's like a skeleton, right? You can still see the faded.
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Some of them are, yes. And some of them will turn into, like, something for Halloween with us. So, like, some costume is out of there, and then it goes back to, you know, to empty.
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Just horrible.
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Eckerd's. Eckerd's was the other one, right?
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It was Eckerd's and Rite Aid. If that's not Walgreens destiny someday. I don't know. It just seems like with all the online...
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competition they have uh for the stuff you get there and well in drug cost right i mean they've been talking about uh you know part of the savings you know potential savings at the budget level right has been uh you know the cost of drugs both sides have talked about that so
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Yeah. You know, there's a lot of winners in the market today, despite a down day. I'm not really seeing that many. The sell-off must be very focused and concentrated in just like the big stocks, the big influentials, the Amazons and the NVIDIAs of the world. Delta's having a great day. Delta's up 10%, hitting a new all-time high today. Delta is now a $43.6 billion company. We prefer Delta. I don't know for what it's worth. I've flown American. You kind of have to fly American.
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But, yeah, those pop-up thunderstorms around Charlotte, man, they'll ruin your whole day.
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And Delta headquartered in Atlanta where, you know, just north of Atlanta, not too far where our chief operations officer, COO, lives. She sent us a picture of pretty good snow on the ground. I'm guessing six inches or something like that. Just north of Atlanta, which is pretty rare. We could get some here today if it starts raining. I don't know if we'll get it or not. It's pretty rare for us. I remember I think Myrtle Beach and this area got it about ten years ago. okay the other one the first winter when i first moved here yeah it was they didn't know what to do i think the international airport was shut down for like four days yes and you know the fishermen they for years they cried about all the trout the sea trout oh yeah lost exactly in the river that floated to the surface they took a big hit now they've come back pretty nicely but we don't want that to happen again Okay, the one that's getting clobbered today, Constellation Brands. Man, there was a time when that was a great stock. But I just think that you've got a very diluted market now with all of these private brands and homegrown brands and the competition. And now they've got to face possible tariffs on their foreign holdings that will be coming into America, like Corona beer, etc. Constellation is down 12.4% today. That's a big hit. That was one of the great stocks for a long time, but we haven't been in it for years. Very competitive industry. And then the other one that reported earnings or lack thereof, Tilray. Boy, I remember a time when the cannabis stocks were all the rage. Kind of like the quantum stocks have been here this year. Cannabis was all the rage. Everybody wanted in on the cannabis. I remember when Tilray was a $300 stock. Now it's $1.21. And I warned people back then. I said, do not get involved in investing in these stocks. And now I see a lot of these cannabis ETFs are shutting down and liquidating. because the sector has just been absolutely clobbered, absolutely smashed. Well, I'll be working on the newsletter, as always, giving you an update on the valuation situation of the market, the interest rate situation of the market. Believe it or not, I'm seeing a lot of really good charts in the market right now, but I'm seeing sector rotation taking place. away from kind of the high flyers and the winners. Really, the winners have had two years in a row of leading the market, which really makes it ripe for sector rotation. And I'll be pointing that out tomorrow in the newsletter. We've still got the four-week trial going on where you're getting my messages all throughout the day. I've already got a buy lined up here that I'll be sending out here. in a little bit go to gundersoncapital.com gundersoncapital.com it's unprecedented i've never offered a four-week trial of you know getting the whole enchilada the newsletter the alerts the access to the app i just can't tell you how much the app guides me on a daily basis i'm down to just like 300 stocks we were up to 1200 a week after trump was elected That was way too high. It had to come down. That's a pretty good indicator, pretty good market indicator too when the market's overheated. Now I would say the market, there's some opportunity now that we're down to just 250, 300 stocks. That's more normal. If anything, it's oversold here right now. So anyways, if you'd like to set up an appointment with us, GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com or 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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As the fires rage in California, Reggie Rocco brings insightful perspectives on the policies and politics shaping the American landscape. From celebrity scandals to discussions on Trump's impact and strategies, the conversation covers how public figures maneuver through controversy. Engage with this thought-provoking dialogue that challenges conventional narratives and seeks justice and common sense in governance.
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Woo, 560 KLZ. I'm in your night, Reggie Rocco, of course. The greatest producer on the planet, Lukey Luke. What's up, buddy? Oh, another beautiful day in paradise, Reggie. How's the weather up there in mansion land? Oh, cold and snowy, and it's not a mansion. I know you keep saying it. It's okay, man. It's okay. You're like, you know, nobody's going to come up there. You know, you got too many firearms and all that other kind of stuff. And, you know, you're good. Hey, man, a lot of things going on. And, you know, I love your perspective. You're just a realist, you know, and you say a lot of stuff that makes sense. And even when you talk about doom and gloom, I'm like, man, he's right again. Like, I had a guy email me, like, Reg, you're just right on point and blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay, call into the show. Let's talk about it. Let's get your opinion, blah, blah. job, family. There's so many things at risk. And I'm like, wow, why is it that you got to hide it? But I understand because look what he's done to me. All my family. Nope. Democrats. They don't talk to me. The friends that I had that were Democrats, they don't talk to me. When my boy and I, Kaz, is doing I'm a Trumpster, we lost so much money, so much business and deals and everything. We're like, well, hold up. We know Trump is the man. You know he's been in over 200 songs, rap songs and all this stuff. So what's the problem? It's not the actual artists and entertainers. It's the people pushing the buttons in Hollywood. It's the people behind the scenes that are the liberals that own all this stuff. That's what's doing it, Luke. That's what's doing it. And with Puffy, you know how long I've been screaming that? He ain't getting out. May, you know, this trial, he's not getting out. And I guarantee you, he's going to be dropping some serious names. Now you see Jay-Z, you know, they done brought him into the mix. And then there was a recording from Puffy in jail talking to his son. He was telling him, he said, have you heard from Jay? And his son's like, no, blah, blah, blah, no. And he goes, okay, yeah, well, burn the pizzas. Burn the pizzas. Talk it in code and all this other stuff. So we know Jay-Z is... Getting ready to go down. All these people that were, there's a list out. You can go look it up and see all these people that are named in these indictments. It's going to get real, real ugly. It's already ugly. So I can tell you this about Jay-Z. There's a guy that claims to be his son. And Jay-Z, I don't know how they do it, but if it was you or I, Luke, the courts would be dragging us in. You're taking a DNA test. He's been avoiding that for years and pressing charges and all other kind of stuff. And it's just like, yo, dude, if it ain't your son, just take the DNA test and be done. You're going to spend $300,000, $400,000, $500,000 fighting and running and all this kind of stuff when you could just take the DNA test. Well... Didn't know this part the reason why he don't want to take the DNA test Luke. Guess why guess why buddy why? because the age of the kid and the age of his mother when she had the kid Would make him a pedophile. Mmm That would explain it. She was 15 and he was like 22 or 23 23 or 24 now Don't quote me. You know, I'll tell you if I know something, I will tell you. But this is a fact. So we're like wondering what? OK. That's why you're not taking the DNA test. It has to be. It has to be. Now all these other things are coming out. Puffy's dropping the bomb. I'm still waiting on all these people to move the hell up out of America. Can't wait for that. But let's go over here to these dang fires. So I have a video and doing research. My boy... Man, I'm almost going to call him, I might call him my dad, my stepdad. That's how much, I don't even know if I can put step in front of it. He said six years ago about the fires and about how you got to get water down here. Trump is brilliant. He's brilliant. Do you guys understand? He's brilliant. Oh, we got Johnny on the line. Patrick Johnny in. What up, big dog? Hey, Happy New Year. Happy New Year, Doc. Hey, man, listen to me. And I'm glad you called because I have an opinion. So, Trump, did you see the video where Trump is... He's already telling California six years ago about how they need to cut the trees and bring this water through a certain way and turn it... Have you seen that? Yeah, 2018, he was saying that. So, dude... Trump is brilliant. So now this is their liberal policies. And I'm sorry, I told you guys like a couple of weeks ago that I am on another level. I'm a uniter. I'm a divider. You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you right now that I am fed up with all the bull. We need to get all our people in and get all them people out. I mean, common sense. And, you know, once that happens, then we'll be able to take the people back. with common sense, common sense politics, common sense, no greed, no corruption, and get these people together and change the world. And it's happening, man. It's happening everywhere. Trump is so brilliant. How is he going to say we're going to change the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America? Man, the dude is such a negotiator, and he doesn't put his cards on the table. You F around and find out. That's all I got to say about Trump. I've been saying it for years. The first day, the very first day I heard what he said about intellectual properties, I've been with him 100%. I've been... physically in front of him, mentally, financially in front of this man, with this man. So to me, nothing else matters but getting him and his team in there. I trust him 100%. And no, I don't care if he was doing something and he was married or not married and then he had these strippers. Let me tell you about strippers. I know, can't nobody be, hey, y'all tuning in? Let me, hold on, let me get a drink. Let me tell you about them strippers. They will set you up, Johnny. And they're here to get their money. And even if you're paying them the money and you're doing your thing and you're having your private thing, the bigger you are, the more powerful you are, the more innocent they're going to act. And as soon as they get you in a compromising situation, then they go public. That's how they make their money. They're the same type of people, individuals, as in the music industry. And we call them... What do we call them girls, man? That rush to follow groupies. We call them groupies because that's all they do. Their whole agenda is to get with you by any means necessary and get paid. So get in front of the spotlight, embarrass you, blackmail you, the whole nine. That's what this is about. That's unfortunately our culture right now. That's the culture of women that we have. The women of the day, like my mom's generation, they're gone they're gone buddy so i don't care if what he did to say hey man here just pay this trick off and uh let her get up out of here and blah blah i don't care how he did it because i'm looking here i see 21 million illegal immigrants i see you know billions bazillions like 50 60 i don't know somebody somebody fact check but uh billions of dollars to ukraine I see everybody in here hustling and lying and taking advantage of the system in America and people. You can't win. You cannot win a game or a... a match, you know what I'm saying? If somebody else is fighting dirty and by you fighting fair, it's just not going to work. If I go and I got to go face to face and I got to fight somebody, he don't know. I got brass knuckles. I got bear mace. I got somebody else on the side that's going to jump in, you know, you coming in here, but just, you know, let's go man to man and, and you going to get annihilated. So you, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. So I do not care. What he did or what his sexual life is or what. I don't care. The man is the man. And I understand. I understand. I've had people say, man, you're just like Trump. Well, great. Well, let me get some of that Trump money. And then, you know, I'll even show you even more what's going to happen. Because I would tear this city apart with a serious budget. We'd be on the news every freaking day. We'd be on the news every day because I'm not playing with this stuff no more, man. I can't take it no more, Johnny. What's your opinion in reference to Trump and his negotiation policies? Do you believe him? That's how he brings people to the table, talking about the Panama Canal, talking about turning the Gulf to America, talking about Greenland. What is your opinion? And then I'm going to get Luke's opinion because Luke's a gloom and doom. I got to get both of y'all's opinion. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think he throws those things out there, and he knows how to make the news media jump. And the news media, they're so stupid. They'll jump at this, and then they have this kind of bent on it. And he's only saying it to get their attention, and then he's working behind the scenes to say, okay, this is how I'm going to bring it to the table because it's in the news. And I heard the Mexican president, so she made her joke about changing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, America.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and so I think she gets it.
SPEAKER 02 :
But look at Trudeau. Trump sat down with him one time and said, hey, why don't we just make, we're not going to keep giving you $100 billion. Well, we wouldn't survive. Well, okay, I understand that. But we're not going to just keep giving you this stuff. We don't need you. So if you're not needed, why are we doing it? This is why I don't understand why I do it. It goes a couple of levels up of why. But just go one level up. It doesn't make sense for us to be paying all this money to somebody we don't need. And it doesn't make sense for us to be held captive, being the most powerful nation on the planet.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I like to get rid of the money we're giving to these colleges. They have these billion-dollar endowments, and we're giving them hundreds of millions of dollars to teach stupid classes on relationships between lesbians. Who needs that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Dude, it's all a money grab. But it only took one sit-down with Trudeau. Now he quitting. He's quitting. Because he knows. Oh, my golly. Do you all understand the genius behind this, man? The genius behind President Trump? My goodness. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
that man is that that man is that they do with the guy in california that you don't natural uh... newsome are getting a little bit okay okay for now the both billionaires uh... or millionaires hollywood people their houses have burnt and and that some of his donors houses have burnt i want to get out there going to come back at him now that You know, he's burning the houses of his people that looked up to him and was on his side.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, but the thing of it is, Johnny, that's because that's that liberal mentality. I say like the Usher song, let it burn, let it burn. I'm telling you, dude, I'm telling you, they're getting what they deserve. Now, I don't want anybody to die. You know me. I'm against that. But I'm also against being pimped. You know what I'm saying? Like Trump's got evidence. eight, six, eight years ago, telling you what to do and what's going to happen. Isn't anybody... Why don't they just stand up? I know Stephen A. Smith is now, he's standing up saying, man, I can't even rock with y'all Democrats no more because every single time, all this stuff you've been talking about, all this slander and propaganda you put on this man, and we come to find out that there was a collusion, Russian collusion. Hunter Biden was stealing money and laundering money with his family and all that. The laptop was loaded with truth. Facebook did bury all these information. The election was rigged. I mean, come on, man. How much more can we take? How much more? I want Trump to I want Trump to. You know, I'm not questioning his process. So I'm just hoping that he's luring them in for the kill. Because I can't stand Zuckerberg. That weirdo thing. He is the worst, dude. Like, do not let him in on nothing. Do not let him in on nothing. Oh, somebody. Hey, Johnny, don't go nowhere. I'm going to patch you in. We're going to have this hoot. Leon, you there? Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, sir. How you doing?
SPEAKER 02 :
What's up? What's up? How you doing?
SPEAKER 06 :
Man, I'm doing good, man. You know, I don't got too much time and I'm just on my way to work. I always like to tap into your show Friday mornings. I just want you to know, man, you are right about everything that you be saying. I've been tapped in for like a month now, man. I just want you to know, man, keep speaking truth because it's almost biblical, man. How you, how you out here, man, giving insight to things and just being able to wake people up, man.
SPEAKER 02 :
We appreciate you. Amen. I appreciate that, man. And, uh, It takes a lot of courage to call in and say that and do that. Keep it up, man, because that's how we grow. You know I'm joking about I'm a divider. This is I'm a uniter, and we have to unite people with the truth. And we're really under a... We're under an onslaught. You know, it's so many things going against the American people. It hurts my heart to even understand how deep this is. So I appreciate that, man. I appreciate you calling in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, man, last thing. Only thing I want to say, I mean, you know, because you make a good point. I think the thing about it is you are inviting in the right way because we do have to make it known who just chooses to be asleep. be ignorant you know whoever has like a malintent so you're able to unite off of first having to divide from the people that want to cause harm to our country so you know how you're doing it is right and i just want you to know i'm tapped in dog appreciate it man appreciate it thanks for calling in of course bye
SPEAKER 02 :
Hey, Johnny, that's real, right? Oh, yeah. That's real, buddy. It's a price to pay for this. It's a price to pay, but I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it, man. Like I said, I'm not going to question Trump's what he does because it's always, it's something more to it. You know, he got everybody up in there, everybody quitting, everybody worried, everybody, you know, oh my God, you know, world leaders coming to the table. It's like now everybody seems to have common sense and, you know, and, and let's do the right thing. Oh, now you got Bill Gates talking about, I want to join the team. No, I hope, I pray that Trump is going to destroy these people. Like, you know, I just want him to, I know as a leader what he's got to do, but we got to understand and never forget what these people have done and how many people have died and suffered because of this. So I want justice. I want justice. But hang on, Johnny, we're going to go to commercial break. 560 KLZ. I'm a uniter, uniter, uniter.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Ultimately, these are the questions that we should ask when looking at policy decisions facing our communities, our state, and our country today. Kim Munson here. Join me every weekday morning, 6 to 7 a.m., as we look at important issues and how they affect you and your life. Encore broadcasts air from 10 to 11 p.m. every weeknight. Tune in to the conversation with The Kim Munson Show right here on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 02 :
Ooh, you've reached 560 KLC. I'm your host, Reggie Rocco. I got my boy, Johnny, a faithful, faithful listener and who's not afraid to come up and say his name and speak his mind. And of course, Lukey Luke. So Luke and Johnny, so I heard your opinion and I'm going to get both of y'all kind of everybody intertwined to, you know, on this subject. So with these flyers, do you think that they're purposely set or To distract us from something else, like I know them drones got to be China and or alien or both. What's your opinion on that? And I'll go with Luke and then I'll hit back to you, Johnny.
SPEAKER 03 :
My opinion on the L.A. fires?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
L.A. burns down like once every six years. This is nothing new. Nothing impressive.
SPEAKER 02 :
So if that happens and it's burning down and they won't do anything to fix it, and now you have citizens actually lighting fires. They're like the homeless and immigrants. They're just lighting fires everywhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I'm sure you've got people trying to take advantage of it for insurance or just to cause some chaos. But I don't think it's some deep. You don't think it's any deep? No, I don't think it's nothing deeper than that. What do you think, Johnny?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I heard about that one guy was started a fire and they got him. But then the other people that loot the places, I think that's an open invitation for them to loot it because they have so many homeless people up there. And, you know, I look at, remember when that guy in New York, he lit that lady on fire and people just filmed it? And, you know, I didn't hear nothing from the Hollywood, New York Hollywood people. But now it's on them, and you're hearing all kinds of things with them saying, hey, this is not good or whatever. But when the little people are on fire, you don't hear nothing from them. And I thought that was just an interesting, like, dichotomy of, like, What is that?
SPEAKER 02 :
My, I want to say, analogy of this. I don't even want to say analogy. Let me just go to perspective. I've been out in L.A. I remember you. If you guys remember, I was telling you we're out at the BET Awards and I was in this nice hotel. You step right out six feet out there. You're dodging human waste. It's line. People lined up, put needles in their arm right there in public. I mean, lines like rolls. Like if you're standing in line for a concert on both sides of the street. And you got street sweepers coming through and they're literally cleaning the streets from feces and urine. Like this is the hell that is California. And it's all based on their policies. Trust me, it's nothing but the elite and their policies that's doing this. Why do you think Colorado is overran? They legalized marijuana, and then you got all these liberal policies, and you got all these people coming from California here. And that was before the migration. And so I believe that California needs to get what it needs to have. I'm on the loop, doom and gloom. I want to burn it down to the ground. It needs to be start all over. And when you see Trump talking about he's been telling you there's so much water to have it. And some fish just smite or something, whatever. And it's the governor and the people won't work with Trump because they hate conservatives. They hate it. It don't matter if you're smart. It doesn't matter if you know what's going on and you're the greatest leader. They are sick in the head. And they will not do what's right. So, you know, like my mom taught me, hey, don't start none and won't be none, number one. And number two, okay, if I keep telling you, okay, go ahead and do it. Let me just sit back and let it happen. Wait a minute.
SPEAKER 07 :
This might be their ultimate plan because these communists, they have to destroy it and then rebuild it. And here we have the concept of 50-minute cities.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Remember, I told you that in China, smart cities, 15 minute series where you go and there's no cars. They record you. They record your body, your image. They have your name in the computer. You can't you know, you ride this. And if your social score isn't correct, then you have to do then you can't ride the trains. You have to do things and volunteer and do all this kind of stuff. They're under complete control. Remember, I told you my Chinese friend told me about this.
SPEAKER 07 :
So maybe that's their ultimate plan is, hey, I don't care because we're going to burn it down and then we're going to cluster you so we can control you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, okay, but wouldn't the liberals understand, the Hollywood elite, that you have now been tricked? You've been tricked, and now they burnt down because they don't want to give up their stuff, man. They don't want to give up that. Have you ever been to Hollywood? Have you ever been to Bel Air? These people are not the smartest cookies on the wall. Exactly, exactly. So I believe Luke might own some property out there. Yeah?
SPEAKER 03 :
If I owned some property out there, I wouldn't be here, I don't think.
SPEAKER 02 :
I can't stand California, dude. And I've experienced it on the entertainment level. You know, VIP parties, rooftop parties, you know, interviews and all kind of stuff like that. And I'm telling you, it is all fake, dude. And it's very, very dangerous. And I didn't even know that the fire chief was LGBTQ, whatever. And I looked at the mayor and I just by looking at her, I'm like, this is she's got to be one of these two. I mean, did you hear the commercial they put out?
SPEAKER 07 :
It was a commercial where it says. Well, if she has to carry out a guy, it's his problem that he got himself in that situation.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, yeah. I didn't see it. I heard about it. So you're saying that we're electing these idiots. And their whole agenda is promoting the rainbow people. That's their whole agenda. I don't care what it is, where it is, that's all they wanna do. So if they're dumb enough, the people over there are idiotic enough to elect these people in with this mentality, like what you just said, oh, well, no, I get paid, I let my people in, but it's on you if your house is burning and you're 300 pounds and I can't carry you, that's your fault. What, man? What? What do you think about that, Lukey Boo? What do I think about it? Is it right? I don't know. Are they right?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know, dude.
SPEAKER 02 :
Is it your fault that you're 280 pounds and your house catches on fire? And they say, oh, I'm sorry. I'm getting paid and all that. But no, I'm not going to. That's your fault.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think if you're in a position where your job is to save people, then you should make every effort to save a person.
SPEAKER 02 :
Because you know what? That's a scary road. So what stops people from saying, ah, man, you live in the hood. You live in the black neighborhood. It's too dangerous over there. I'm not going over there. And that's your fault that you're over there. Nah, buddy. That's the difference between heroes. And we have to elect people in those type of positions that deserve to be there. They have to be solid mentally and physically. Or they don't need to be there. Or you're just setting yourself up for disaster. And Trump, man, oh my God, he has so much gall. At the Jimmy Carter funeral, He's up in there sitting next to Obama, and Obama's talking to him. I'm like, how do you, Luke, if me and you was going at it for four years, five years, we're calling each other every single thing, everything under the sun you can imagine in public, and then all of a sudden all that is supposed to go away, and I sit down and say, hey, Luke, how you doing? Oh, yeah, how's the family? No. No, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not flying.
SPEAKER 02 :
So if that's the situation, because I've seen the first lady, she was like, I don't even want to be sitting here. You know, it's really messed up. But Trump is so powerful, man. He's so powerful and he's got such a great heart that he's going to sit there and he forgives. But I don't want him to forgive Bill Gates or Zuckerberg or these attorney generals and prosecutors. That's judge up in there. I don't want him to forgive these people. I want him to destroy these people when they get it. I don't care what people say. Oh, he said he wasn't going to go after his political opponent. He said he wasn't. Yeah, yeah. Tricked you. Tricked you. I lied. Just like they do. But see, at least even Trump would admit that he lied. That's how real he is. The Democrats and the liberals, they lie through their teeth. They get caught on audio and video and they just walk around like, wasn't me. Dude, it's like I see you right here. You're sitting right here smoking the joint. Uh, uh, no, wasn't me. Dude, your friend right next to you sniffing cocaine. Right here. Wasn't me. That's their mentality. So when you're dealing with people like that, you got to get more street, man. You got to get more street. It's chess, not checkers. So I want Trump to definitely turn around on all these people, Hillary, everybody. I want him – I hope he does – uh that i hope these advisors i know he's saying let's just be bigger and move forward no dude they try to kill you you took a bullet like there's a there's a point to where you gotta be scoring somewhere i'm pretty sure if i came after luke or i shot him and and i hit his ear i'm sure i wouldn't be showing up to work the next week i know what i'm about to walk into am i wrong
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I think you got it.
SPEAKER 02 :
So I want that type of same energy. I want that type of same energy, yo. I need that same type of energy. I respect Trump so much. I believe that He is definitely the best president we've ever had. And I can't go back to the 1700s because, one, you know how I felt about that. It's a lot of stuff that happened to my people. But I will tell you this. The Republican Party is the one that freed us. The Republican Party is the one that has passed every legislation that helped black people. So, hey. It is what it is. It is what it is. So if Trump wants to take Canada, do it. How do we give away the Panama Canal? Come on, man. I can't even believe this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hold on, pause.
SPEAKER 02 :
You want Trump to take Canada? You want him to do it? Yeah. I want Canada. I want Greenland. I want the Panama Canal. Well, the Chinese are running the Panama Canal. This is why I keep telling you that the Chinese are the most ruthless race on this planet. They are everywhere. And every weakness that you show, they're going to fill them slots. And then I just read that there's like 100 and something military companies from the Chinese that are in America. what moron okay this because i know i've never been to china never gonna go but my friend tells me we don't even they don't even have american companies that can do any of this stuff and everything is monitored by the chinese government do you agree with do you think that's true
SPEAKER 03 :
I think China's got their fingers in a lot of pies. Yeah, I wouldn't.
SPEAKER 02 :
Do you think we could do the same thing in their country that they're doing to us? We probably could. I mean, we probably are. We just don't know it. So do you think it's underground spy stuff? Or could me and you go over there and open up a company and say, we hate China. Y'all some killers and stealers and dealers. And we're going to open up this company and we're going to promote this agenda. We're going to have all our women naked and dancing around. Right. OK, so that's what I'm saying. We need that same energy. Trump has that energy. I hope he gets all these companies and these foreigners up out of here. Is Johnny still there? Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'm here. Okay, I'm thinking like, okay, but we're looking at the global situation. We have global trade and so forth. I just want, if it's coming in here, I just want it to be good quality stuff and not them spying at the same time as they're making our phones, these communication devices, and then having a backdoor where they can spy on us.
SPEAKER 02 :
That has to be... But you can't trust them, Johnny. You know... You know I'm not a racist. I'm a realist, the other R word. I'm telling you, you cannot trust them, period. You can't. You would be an idiot if you don't think that they're not here to advance their way of life and their country. That country is their God and their country and their people first. And they and they don't you don't have a choice that that dictatorship is that this is what it is. And so America is too free. America is way, way too free in certain things, you know, like burning the flag. It's crazy, you know, having people here that hate your country, but they're making millions and all this stuff off of your country's back. They're taking this money, shipping it back to their country. Are you crazy, dude? There's millionaires in China that they can only use X amount of dollars to go outside of China and make money. Most of that money has to stay there. And I know this for a fact. Who's on the line? Kaz? Yo, what's up? What's happening, brother? Kaz, this is the superstar. What's up, big dog?
SPEAKER 05 :
So you still trying to put... Painting in their head what's going on. Getting some type of light, man.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Tell me what's on your mind, man. Keep it real. Oh, no, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's all good. I'm just here, man. In Atlanta, we got some snow. you know, snowed up. It's like, man, it's a phenomenon. So, you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, hold on, hold on, hold on.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're telling me that there's a, that, okay, I heard about the Arctic blast that was taking, going through the United States, but you're saying in my home A1, Is snow on the ground?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, rarely we see it, but it's here. You know what I'm saying? And the whole city is shut down for two inches.
SPEAKER 02 :
Hey, man, you remember back in the day? When it snowed and the whole city shut down and then they came on with these weather alerts and they were saying stay home because there's no snow plows and all that. And that wasn't even an inch of snow. That was just like cold weather and ice. So you guys still ain't got snow plows?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think we're doing a little better, but it was horrible. I was actually in that. And it's just crazy. A place that took you five minutes to get to down the road. I'm talking about literally five minutes. It took five to six hours to get there. It just was crazy. People just was just stranded, didn't know what to do, sleeping in their cars overnight. I mean, it was just... Driving in the ditches and over a little bit, I was just like, oh, my God, what are we going to do? Maybe they can have a snow attack and stop us.
SPEAKER 02 :
Stop. You know what people don't know, though, Johnny, about Georgia? Like, you have a lot of roads in Georgia that you go in north and then the other side is coming south. So it's right coming at you. So if it's icy and snow, if somebody veers off, they're coming in to head on traffic, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, some worlds are like that. Yeah, definitely. And it's just a cluster, but... Hopefully this time will feel a little bit better. I mean, they're making everybody stay inside unless you got an emergency.
SPEAKER 02 :
But I know you ain't staying inside. Especially, I know Rapstar is just banging. So tell me, what's the updates on that, man? I had seen an article where, and you know, we talk all the time and we got business with Rapstar and everything. But I'm saying, I've seen an article with this map that showed all these stores that Rapstar Drink is in in the South.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're definitely gaining territory, ground, market share. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, it's a game where you have to scale because when you're talking about food and beverage and people and taking a product, you know what I'm saying, to be able to just the blessing to be happy to have something that, you know, like a Coca-Cola Sprite or Red Bull, you got people putting in their systems. It's just a blessing to even have that. And also now that people like it and they're drinking it and they're spreading it. And we had, like I say, a big distribution meeting for covering the nation. So it's just one of those things. But taking our time, you know what I'm saying, making sure we send the message out there to the people about the ultimate performance. A lot of people... meet the ultimate performance in life, mobile hip-hop fans, people that need energy to go to work, to get up every day. And, you know, we're just trying to make a difference and put back into the community. and just help the people that need to be helped, and that's what we're about, man.
SPEAKER 02 :
So with all that love, is it okay? Because you know I gotta do it. I have to do it on this platform, and I'll say it, and you can just say no comment, or I take the fifth. Because I have to say this. Why is it so hard? for a black man or a black company, a minority company, to break through to the masses of millions. Now, when I did my analogy and everything, and you said, hey man, come on here and handle the West and all this, and all this information I'm getting and all these people and distributors, I find out that they're the same people that own everything. It's like the top of the tree. Let's just say Coke, Pepsi. Then they have all these other distributors that they either own or have locked down. And they won't, those shelves, they won't let you in on those shelves because they don't want you to cut into their product. No matter if they're making a zillion dollars, they still don't want you in to get in there and get just a tiny piece of that market share. And then when they find out it's a minority company, it's even 10 times harder. Am I wrong or right?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. And it's sad that it's like that. But, you know, us being minorities, we've been creators of a lot of things, elevator red lights, and we can go on and on and on how we just create as individuals. But, you know what I'm saying, we're known to be consumers. So they would rather us buy products, you know what I'm saying, instead of being on the other side of it. And you understand those shelves. When I was born, Coca-Cola. When you was born, Coca-Cola Sprite. Fanta was here. When you die, it's going to be here. So to be able to come in and get some of that shelf space. You know, they're making billions and billions of dollars every 365 days. I'm not talking about... Totally. You're talking about every year. Every year. You know what I'm saying? If you go look at Red Bull, when I first got into this business, I studied it. When I first, 2016, Red Bull was made, I was like, let me see what these companies are making. So I looked it up. At that point, Red Bull had made... Red Bull had made $4.9 billion. Then the next year it was $6 billion. Then the next year it was $7.9 billion. Then the next year it was $9.8 billion. And this year, you know what I'm saying, last year, 2023, they made $12 billion. Well, let me say this. They sold 12 billion cans times $3. Do the math. And this was every year. So that's the type of capital that they're making. And, you know, and so... Us coming along, me coming along, having a product. Because I kind of create this project for the culture. It's kind of like for the culture. When I say the culture, the DJing, dancing, graffiti, rapping, fashion. It's a lifestyle type of journey. You know what I'm saying? And it goes directly to that consumer and it talks to that consumer. That's why. And so my whole thing is I'm here. People are liking it. But if you get on that shelf, somebody got to get off that shelf. And so now it goes into war. And, you know, that's kind of like mafia dollars you're talking about, billions and billions. And for you to, you know, try to come in and take some of that money. It's really hard for you to come in and get some of that shelf space. So that's why a lot of times these companies come in, they get the market share just like Rockstar Energy Drink. They came in, they got the market share, and of course they say, okay, here goes $3.85 billion. Let me buy you out. You know what I'm saying? Now they just buy because they want to continue to eat the little man, and they're going to continue to buy you up because they're making like $64 billion a year. God.
SPEAKER 02 :
So let me put it for our listeners. You remember we were both signed with the second biggest in the nation publisher, the Lowry Music Group. Now, you remember when I, you know, the bank right down the street from Lowry Boulevard, you know, the whole street, Jordan Hall of Fame, all that. Right down there was that bank right on the corner. And I would go there to cash my checks or anything in that bank. I'm going in a suit and tie, everything. I'm feeling all good. Got all this, you know, this deal. And I go in there and they wouldn't give a brother no love ever. Had to stand in line, stand in this, do all this other kind of stuff. Then another guy come in, a white guy come in in jeans, holy jeans and all that. And they giving him all the love. And people didn't believe me when I'm telling you this, but this is what black people go through. And so one day the general manager was there and he seen me. I'm all dressed out in a suit and everything. And he's like, go to the manager like, yo. That's one of our clients. And they go, oh yeah, he can wait. I told him to wait in line. He goes, are you crazy? He is a writer with the biggest account that we have in this bank. I think Larry had like 30 million in that bank. You remember that?
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Yeah, I remember. Well, unfortunately, I'm going to say this. I'm not calling to hold you wrong, but I want to just say this to the people that's listening to you as well. It's just kind of like this. a lot of the love that I've got, I don't want to get it twisted, a lot of the love that we have gotten has been from Caucasian people. It's just that we have been, since coming up and coming in, all the tragedies that happened with our race and slavery and different things, and now we're free. But at the end of the day, it's a lot of brainwashing. And even your own people, which the people who look like me, it's just kind of like they hate on me they hate to see a person like themselves create a business and start to excel it's just kind of like the jealousy comes in and like who do you think you are and so most of the time we get hated on by our own by our own people and then we're battling with the other you have some then you have the racist side that over there is white so then you're in a middle where it's like because it For me, it's not even color. It's not even color. It's just like everybody is my brother, the white, black man. But at the end of the day, it's just you can't help but notice a lot of things and barriers. But most of the people have helped us. have been Caucasian. So I look at it like this, and there's some people who want to see us win, and there's some people who see. And so we're fortunate to have some of those people on the team saying, hey, this is a good product, it's great, and we're going to try to help you break into that market. But it's some that look at you and like, you know, who do you think you are? You want to come in here, blah, blah. But at the end of the day, it's just one of those things where you just got to have faith, you got to believe, and you just keep pushing because consistency is what... What breaks through the door. And to start this business, it's like a $3 to $5 million it takes to start an energy drink company. But I said, you know what? I believe that I could create something that resonates with the people, and I just started it, and it has, and I have it. We didn't near have as much as that to start it, but I've got the attention of the big boys. So it's a blessing. You know what you just described to me?
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And it's true. And I've got to break it down a different way. But yeah, exactly. So it's just like... It's just like slavery. You know, white people did this to us that also we couldn't have got free without a certain group of other white people. You see what I'm saying? You know, I understand exactly what you're saying. It's like, God dang. And then when you go down here, we hear about police killing black people and and all this. And we're like, no, no, no. Is black people killing black people? Is black people hating on black people? Yeah. So that is exactly what you saw. You're kind of in a vortex in the middle, like you're just trying to find the right set of people because you can't do it without the good Caucasian people that is about God and love and business. You can't make it without them. But at the same time, you got that little certain percentage that don't like you. And you know that we can't even get our own people to wake up out of being Democrats and and all the stuff that's done to them, you know how many times we've been in situations in Atlanta where it was basically black-on-black crime everywhere. So I understand you being hated on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just one of those things, man. It's unfortunate. But I do understand how... the world and how United States was building, what it was built on. And I do understand how it's all about the resources. You got to understand we're behind 400 plus years, but at the end of the day where they got all the resources, when it was time to get the resources, all the resources had been got up. So we didn't really have any resources. We had to start 400 years back to try to get something. And it's been a struggle for, And but at the end of the day, you just keep on pushing. So Martin Luther King said we shall overcome one day.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. Right. So let me ask you this. So, you know, just yes or no to this. We I believe I think, you know, and I know I know that Trump was. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, man, listen to me. Trump, I'm just saying, I love Trump. Trump is a businessman. He's blunt. Plus, I love him because he's a Gemini like me, and I understand his mindset. I understand it's like he's about his business, and at the end of the day, he's about America first. Like I say, that's what it's about. So I can't fight against that. Yes, he's blunt, and everybody who's successful out here is a businessman. You have to be blunt because if you're not, you'll be taken advantage of. So is Trump blunt? Yes. Is he about his business? Yes. So at the end of the day, everybody loved, like you say, he was in all rap songs. He was hanging out with all the stars. But it's only when he started to run and get into politics that everybody started to look at him and switch on him. at the end of the day because he was just too blunt yeah i don't care who you were he from both sides if you don't care if it's democrat or politics he don't give it to you 100 you even have people that republican looking at him like he's like i'm just gonna say what it's real and it is what it is okay perfect example with the fire who's the blame of that fire trump say
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We were talking about that earlier. We were talking about, like, he said it six plus years ago, what was happening and what was going to happen. I mean, come on, man. Come on, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, man, just give me some flashbacks. When we had Obama Trump, man, we had going back and forth. It just put me back, you know, right beside you on the radio station, going back. I'm quite sure people are tuning in and listening to us, making all type of faces and looking like a wow. But it's all good, bro. You know what I'm saying?
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Hey, man. Hey, love you, man. I'm going to try to get with you, like, this weekend and talk about what's going on down there, our next moves and the other stuff we want to do. But I appreciate you calling in because you always keep it real, and you know we keep it real here. But, yeah, so let's get up, like, you know, in a couple days.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, sounds good. And I'll talk to you all soon. And, yeah, I'll keep trumping on, brother.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, big dog. Woo, Johnny, boy, that's my bro right there. That's my bro. But dang. Go ahead, Johnny.
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Tell me something. Okay, Snoop Dogg, they were having the same problem with the Snoop Loops. Are they now on the shelves, as you can see, or are they still in the back?
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They were taking that, and in Walmart and all that, they were putting that stuff on the back shelf in the warehouse, and then when they did put it out, they were making the price like three times of what it was supposed to be. When you go down that rabbit hole, man, it's because there is greed mixed with racism. You see what I'm saying? But it's hard to decipher which is what. You know what I'm saying? But like Luke knows, I say follow the money. Follow the money. The money and the power, that's all I do. You can cut through a bunch of stuff with that. And you're going to have to find somebody that is... not racist, that's greedy, that's like, okay, I see this a way to make money, and they don't care what color you are. But there's other entities, and I'm not saying just based on color alone, but the bottom line is, yeah, man, this is rough. It is very rough. And now since he brought it up, I'm going to get you guys' opinion. And this is what I see. Okay, so Americans, black, white, blue, green, whatever. You know, we've been buying and, you know, Casio, you know, black people are big consumers. We've been buying this stuff as much as we can. But inflation and, you know, no raises at the job, price of rent, everything going up. And we haven't been able to buy or spend as much as we like to spend. So then I put the greedy perspective in. So then I'm like, okay. Why would they let 21 million people here? Just, I mean, okay, I said the vote thing. They wanted to keep Trump out at all costs because he's going to fix stuff. But my thing is... I believe that the elite says we're not making enough money and we can't make Luke go shopping. We can't make Reggie go shopping because they got to take care of their home, their family, their bills, so they can't spend as much money on other stuff that they want to do, but they can't afford it, inflation and all that. So I believe they said, okay, how do we get their money? We let 21 million people come over here, and then we take our citizens' money and give it to them in the name of immigration and helping out this and that. And so I believe that's how they got all these people here. Then they took our money legally but illegally and gave it all to them. And the first thing they do is what? Shop. Shop. That money came from us, taxpayer citizens, and we can barely afford to buy bread and eggs and everything else. And they took all our money and gave it to them. And the first thing they do when they get here, when they get that money, is shop. Like, I'm going to tell you what happened to me yesterday. I'm in, was it King Soopers or what? I was in Walmart. Whole different part of town. I'm up here, and I'm looking in here, and like I always said, I'm here, and I'm like, dang, I got four or five things in my buggy, and I see lines 30 minutes long with all these Hispanics and illegal immigrants in line with carts full to the top. And I'm just like, man. Then I'm looking, and so the cashier looks at me, and she says... I know, I know. And I'm like, what do you mean? And she says, you talking about these lines and all this stuff? Yeah, and I'm also talking about these lines and I'm looking at what I have and what everybody else has. And she said, look, I'm gonna tell you this. And she was an older, middle-aged white lady. She says, I look around and we even talk about it that I see white people and black people with their carts and they barely have food in their carts. But the Hispanic people got loads and loads and loads of groceries. She said, not only that, we have cameras and we do studies and all this kind of stuff about our consumers who are buying and what's going on. She says she sees white people and black people looking at the prices of the products. Like when you go down the aisle, they pick it up, they're looking to see how much it costs, they look what's inside of there, and they're looking for the sale, and then they go ahead and grab something and put it in the cart. But she says the Hispanic people Don't even look at the price. They just go through the aisles and just grabbing everything, just throwing it in their cart. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Because they don't care because they got all this money. And she said, I'm telling you because I'm telling you right here. I know the thousands of dollars in food stamps. I know the thousands of dollars. in cash that they're getting. That's why you see all these people, illegal immigrants, with their baskets filled up to the top. And she said, it's not even a racial thing anymore. It's a have and have not. But she believes the same thing, that these people don't worry about the food, they don't worry about anything because they got all our money, which we should have, and they go there just grabbing stuff off the shelf, and they don't even care how much it costs because it's all free to them anyway. Now, that's a lady that just told me this yesterday, a white lady, and she's combining, like I said, all they did was make white people and black people come closer together because we are the ones suffering. I think the greedy at the top let them hear one of the reasons let them all hear because they weren't their bottom line wasn't being met their bottom line wasn't being met they wanted us to spend more money that we didn't have so what better way to steal our money give it to somebody else and then let them spend it because guess what it comes right back to them and she also confirmed what i said about how is walmart hurting There's no way. I would like somebody to give me their bottom line because every time I go to any store or any, I don't care where it is, every freaking time, it's lines and lines and lines and people buying up everything, tons of product. There's not even product on the shelves. So how is Walmart hurting? They're making a killing. All these companies are making a killing because they took our money, gave it to them, and the only thing they're here to do is shop, and it goes right back to them. Do you understand that, Johnny?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, it's almost like Robin Hood, and it's almost like the rich people, let's play a game on the other people. And so since we are considered, the middle class, considered to be the rich to them, we say, okay, we'll steal from them and we'll give to these illegals. And it's almost like, it seems like it's a game they're playing with all of us.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, man. I'm so over it, dude. It's greed. It's greed. Black Rock Vanguard, all this. It's greed. And there's nothing like somebody taking money out of my pocket to give to somebody else that'll spend it. See, I might have $100, but I can only spend 10 of it. But you take it from me and you give it to somebody that's here for no other reason but to spend. What have they been doing? What have they been doing but milking and bleeding America dry?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, see, it started small, right? They started taking money out of yours and my pocket. Let's pay for women's abortion. Let's put it through there. And so if we don't say nothing, they look around and say, oh, they're not saying nothing. So let's do some more. And it's just inch by inch. And every time we let them do this to us, they just keep on thinking, like, we could do more. So we've got to rise up and say, hey, you can't do more.
SPEAKER 02 :
Real quick, because I know it's getting time for us to get up out of here. You guys go to weareblacklivesmaga.com. Like I said, we've been looking at properties. I've got in touch with a couple of people in enforcement. They know what we're doing. They agree with what we're doing. And they know we're trying to put this together in reference to the 20th. And today I'm going to be calling some of the people I know high up and say, hey, what's up? What can we do? How can we get this? How can you help us? Because we definitely it's about the beyond when Trump comes and I don't know what's going to be rolling down the streets, tanks or whatever. But I know these people are not going to be trying to leave up out of here. Why would you when you got all Americans money, all this, all everything, health care, houses, food? You know, this is a lotto and they have nothing to do here but spend our money. That's it. And so they're not going to want to leave. Would you want to leave, Luke? No. Okay, so yeah, I feel you. Johnny, you're the same way, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I can't go to Russia and do the same thing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, so look, man, we're going to count it down, big dog. You ready? Three, two, one, and we out. Yeah. All right, y'all. It's that time. We out of here. But you've been listening to KLC 560 AM. I'm a Unite to Reggie Rocko. Yeah, it's fun. We will tackle the issues. We will unite the country every week, every Friday morning from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. It's about love, y'all. Have a wonderful morning and a great day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we're Uniters. Yeah, we're Uniters. Yeah. That's right, Colorado.
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You shouldn't have to force people to do it. and is not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives via force. And force could be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation the world economic forum's agenda the globalist elites agenda united nations uh colorado state legislature right off the bat gammy has texted me that there's a a second amendment uh bill that is uh being proposed which is trying to take away your right to protect yourself and your family against bad guys and girls So the Colorado governor, the World Health Organization, land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. This list has been going on and on and on and growing under the Biden-Harris administration and those before them. And we've got to walk this back. And that's why we engage in this battle of ideas. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Joe, before we get into this, there was at the top of the hour a public service announcement by the after school program. And just the way it was couched, trying to, it had basically the heartbeat of a baby. And then just kind of trying to shame people into not supporting after school programs. And so I wanted to check this out. And it's called, hold on here. It was the After School Alliance. So I looked at this and And it is focused on social and emotional wellness of children. Those are the big code words for diversity, equity, and inclusion, separating our kids by race. And the social emotional programs have not been good. So anyway, they are focusing on that. It's being sponsored by this Imogen Foundation, I-M-O-G-E-N Foundation. And I went to that, can't quite get a whole, and again, I'm doing this very quickly this morning, but when you go to ImogenFoundation.org, the first thing that you see is a whole bunch of pictures of kids with masks on their faces. So I've got to talk to the station about this because I don't know quite how we get these public service announcements. But, my friends, we need to be really careful because it was this after-school program that happened. Erin and John Lee's daughter was invited to, which ended up being not art club. She was invited to art club. She's like 11 or 12 years old, new in school, coming out of COVID, shy. Says, hey, mom, dad, can I go to art club? And of course, you want your kids and she likes art. Sounds like a great idea, right? Oh, it was a transgender indoctrination. uh session and so these after-school programs you need to be really careful of joe i i know i'm just throwing this at you but this was the first time i heard this at the top of the hour and so i got to get on this it's the first time i heard it too and honestly all of these things with the groupings and whatnot it just sounds like fear-mongering Yeah, I know. So we're going to get on that. So and if any of you have concerns about these public service announcements as well, just let me know. But we're going to be having a I'm going to have a conversation about this. And this is so important that we catch these things because these things fly in under the radar. They get free airtime, I think. And so we will check on that. But I don't get free airtime, and that means I'm an entrepreneur, and that's why I am so grateful for our sponsors. So thank you to LearnMe Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. And our word of the day. is repugnant. And you spell that R-E-P-G, repugnant, R-E-P-U-G-N-A-N-T. And at first could be arousing, disgust or aversion, offensive or repulsive. Number two, it could be contradictory or inconsistent. Number three, disposed to fight against, hostile, at war with, being at variance, contrary, inconsistent, refractory, disobedient. I find actually as I'm thinking more and more about this that I find this particular public service announcement repugnant because it's trying to hide and trying to shame people. And I don't like that one little bit. So your challenge is to use the word repugnant in a sentence today. And hopefully you are impressing your friends and family about your vocabulary growing. Our quote of the day is it is Friday and taking the quote for the from the Medal of Honor. a quote book, which is published by the Center for American Values. And it's quotes from many of their Medal of Honor recipients that are in their portraits of valor there at the center. And I always want to, I think we can take such great heart from the actions of these men. These are men that when danger presented itself, They took action to protect those around them. And we need to do the same here. For example, I need to take action on this after school thing because I'm very concerned about what that might be. But anyway, check out the AmericanValueCenter.org. That is their website. They are going to have a very important event on Thursday, January 23rd. And it will be down at the center. And it's regarding the USS Pueblo that during the Vietnam War, it was captured by the North Koreans, was held captive for a year. And Robert Chica, who was a prisoner for that year, is going to be speaking at the center. So this is a really special event, and you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. Drew and the team there, Drew Dix, who's one of the co-founders, just request that you let them know you're coming. And there is a competing event. I can't go, unfortunately, to the center that night because as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, we are holding our legislative kickoff meeting, and that is also on the 23rd. And tickets will be going on sale for that this week, and they're only $10. And be sure and join us. For only $25 or $2.08 a month, you will have a great tool in your toolbox, and that is all of the volunteer hours that our team, our board of directors, puts into analyzing legislation. And when you see these folks, my fellow board members, and that would be Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, and Mary Jansen. And on Monday is our board meeting, and Dave Evans and Corey Ornsorg should be joining us as well. Say thank you to these folks. And you can join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. But this is our our quote of the day, and I want to set this up. It's by Leo K. Thorsness, United States Air Force Medal of Honor. He was born in 1932. He died in 2017. He was a colonel in the United States Air Force, received the Medal of Honor for his actions in the Vietnam War, and he was awarded for an air engagement of April 19, 1967. He was shot down two weeks later and spent almost six years in captivity in North Vietnam as a prisoner of war. After his military service, he served in the Washington State Senate, among other things. And this is the citation. It is for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. As a pilot of an F-105 aircraft, Lieutenant Colonel Thorsness was on a surface-to-air missile suppression mission over North Vietnam. Lieutenant Colonel Thorsness and his wingman attacked and silenced a surface-to-air missile site with air-to-ground missiles and then destroyed a second surface-to-air missile site with bombs. In the attack on the second missile site, Lieutenant Colonel Thorsness' wingman was shot down by intensive anti-aircraft fire and the two crew members abandoned their aircraft. Lieutenant Colonel Thorsness circled the descending parachutes to keep the crew members in sight and relay their position to the search and rescue center. during this maneuver a make seventeen was sighted in the area lieutenant colonel thorsons immediately initiated an attack and destroyed the mig because his aircraft was low on fuel he was forced to depart the area in search of a tanker Upon being advised that two helicopters were orbiting over the downed crew's position and there were hostile MiGs in the area posing a serious threat to the helicopters, Lieutenant Colonel Thorsness, despite his low fuel condition, decided to return alone through a hostile environment of surface-to-air missile and anti-aircraft defenses to the downed crew's position. As he approached the area, he spotted four MiG-17 aircraft and immediately initiated an attack on the MiGs, damaging one and driving the others away from the rescue scene. When it became apparent that an aircraft in the area was critically low on fuel and the crew would have to abandon the aircraft unless they could reach a tanker, Lieutenant Colonel Thorsness, although critically short on fuel himself... help to avert further possible loss of life in a friendly aircraft by recovering at a forward operating base, thus allowing the aircraft in emergency fuel condition to refuel safely. Lieutenant Colonel Thorsness, extraordinary heroism, self-sacrifice, and personal bravery involving conspicuous risk of life were in the highest traditions of the military service and have reflected great credit upon himself and the United States Air Force. My dad served in the Air Force, and he was very proud of his service. And this is the quote of the day from Leo K. Thorsness. 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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Hooters Restaurants is a great sponsor of the show. In fact, I met Jim May yesterday. We wanted to talk about a few things. And so we met over at Hooters Restaurants. And their queso is so good. Jim had the fish tacos. Delicious. And delicious. They have great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. This is a big football weekend. Great place to watch those games is Hooters Restaurants. And how I got to know them is a really important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs trying to exert power that they don't really have that they think they have. And so be sure and check that out. All that whole story is at my website. Joe, you did a little homework after... I talked about this PSA that was at the top of the hour regarding this after-school programs. And it really tweaked my radar that I needed to check that out very quickly. Checked it out. It is being sponsored by this Imogen Foundation, I-M-O-G-E-N Foundation. And the first thing that you see when you go to that website is a bunch of kids with masks on their face. So all this is danger, danger, danger to me. And so I want to find out about PSA. So you did a little homework.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, ma'am, I did. It was randomly generated in there, but I thought the same thing. I was very concerned that the way they were putting it out is, do you want to be negligent? That's not a good way to say something like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
I totally agree. So we're going to stay on this. But again, I think it's an example, Joe, of how things in our lives can just sneak in here. And that's why we have to have our radar up. We have to be questioning things all the time and doing research. And so within a few minutes, you and I had quite a bit of information on this. And with as much as we have learned on the show, talking with Lori Gimmelstein, and regarding Colorado Parents Advocacy Network and Aaron Lee and Kevin Lundberg regarding all these programs. We've learned enough that we immediately could see danger, danger, Joe.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're absolutely right. And they just want to scare us into it using your kids might get hurt. Of course, we don't want our kids to get hurt. That's what we're supposed to do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, but the real after-school program, first of all, parents, is we want to make sure that you know what is going on. So we'll stay on that. Let me get into several other things here. Time just goes by so quickly on the show. We have our quote of the day. This day in history, a few things I wanted to mention. 1776, Common Sense, the pamphlet by Thomas Paine, which really... uh made a difference for our war for independence it was published and again advocating for american independence in 1870 standard oil companies created by john d rockefeller he owned 30 and his brother and other business partners and at that time they controlled about 10 of the world oil in 1901 oil was discovered in spindle top beaumont texas making the start of the texas oil boom In 1949, RCA introduces the 45 RPM record. Of course, now you can listen to music on your phone, Spotify, Pandora, all these different services. Back in 1982, we were concerned that the world was going to get too cold. And 1982, negative 17 degrees Fahrenheit was in Bremer. Grampian was a United Kingdom record. And then the Earth got a little bit warmer, which was better for the Earth. And then they said the Earth was going to get too hot. So they call that global warming. Well, then we had all these different temperatures up and down. Because the climate does always change. But, of course, they're trying to push this man-made climate change narrative. And so they changed the term to climate change. That's why you really should check out the documentary, A Climate Conversation, which is the project of Walt Johnson. You can watch that for free at aclimateconversation.com. And we've got a great set of podcasts as well there. So check that out. And while I'm mentioning going back to this after school thing, check out artclubthemovie.com as well. And that will really inform you why we need to be so cautious about these after school programs. This, I thought, was super interesting. Again, we learned on many of these podcasts that we have recorded for a climate conversation by many of these experts and scientists that many publications, many universities, they receive grant money. Many times this might be government grant money. So our tax dollars are being used through grants to push a narrative. And I would submit to you that's probably what happened here. 2019, the oceans are warming faster than previously thought due to fossil fuel burning, according to data published in the journal Science. And again, just realizing that they're trying to give this um uh significance by saying it was in this journal science you wonder who's behind all of that as well so that is our this day in history uh as far as headlines first of all yesterday was jimmy carter's funeral and all the dignitaries were there and certainly appreciate his service to the country and i think we'll over the next week or so we will talk about those policies that he pushed forward. And many of those policies were pushed forward again by the Biden-Harris administration. But at this point, I just want to show respect for him and his service to the country. Next thing, this is pretty huge, and that is that the Supreme Court ruled regarding this criminal charges, the sentencing for Donald Trump on these charges. And so this is from CBS News. And I wanted to try to remember what these charges were exactly. And so it's former President Donald Trump's conviction in New York stem from this $130,000 hush money payment his attorney Michael Cohen made to Stormy Daniels in the days before the 2016 election. Prosecutors said the deal was meant to keep voters in the dark about Daniels allegations. uh and uh that she had sex with him he denies that but the actual charges this goes on this is cbs news uh are actually uh far less salacious and dealt with comparatively mundane paperwork that was generated when he reimbursed cohen for the payment And I went through and did the research on this. And these 34 counts of which there are those that a parrot that, oh, he's been convicted on these 34 counts makes it look trying to make him look like he's a criminal. They were basically bookkeeping entries. And for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, quite frankly. $130,000 is chump change in this whole thing as well. And this is really lawfare, I think, as we talked yesterday with John Eastman. So it's going to be interesting to see. What happens just a few days before the inauguration of Donald Trump to see what the sentencing looks like. And so stay tuned on that. Next thing, big, big news. This is from CNN says, well, again, let's take a look at the headline and break that break that down a little bit. Says this is what the CNN headline says. Judge scraps Biden's Title nine rules reversing expansion of of protections for LGBTQ plus students. Well, let's change that title or that headline to what really it is. It's Judge scraps Biden's Title nine rules, which reverses expansion of boys and girls bathrooms and and protects girls and girls sports. So let's see what it really is. So this is a big deal as well. So that's a really important headline. Next, California and these fires. This particular headline is from only well, many different news organizations have been. reporting this, that the Palisade Palisades wildfire, the L.A. Mayor, Karen Bass, had cut fire department funding by $17.6 million to benefit people that have come here illegally. I'm hearing reports that there were fire hydrants that didn't even have water. And in fact, Mary had sent over, and then I saw another headline on this, that firefighters were using women's handbags to get water and run over and try to put some of these fires out. It's crazy. This is from the Tampa Free Press. It says that California was caught off guard by massive fires after the L.A. Fire Department spent years pushing racial equity. And this has moved us to mediocrity and bad choices because instead of people striving for excellence and competing on striving for excellence, being the best that they can be, just putting people in because of DEI hires, we now see people are losing their homes. And this is going to be very difficult now for people to rebuild. This is going to be a really defining moment. And they talked about this on many of the shows last night. 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It is Friday, and welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And as you know, one of the nonprofits that I highlight on the show on a regular basis is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And Paula Sarles is the president of the foundation. She is a Marine veteran, a Gold Star wife. And the president of the foundation is so focused on raising the money for this remodel. The official Marine Memorial, dedicated in 1977, is right here in Colorado. And one of the things that you should add into your repertoire to support is the USMC Memorial Foundation. Get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I'm pleased to have on the line with me Amber Todorov, and she is the Deputy Policy Policy Director for Open the Books. And Adam Angieski is the founder of Open the Books, and he passed on suddenly. And all of us, it just broke our hearts. So, Amber, first of all, on the website, you said you're continuing the work that Adam started.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, that's right. Adam was not just the leader of Open the Books and a visionary for the transparency revolution, but he was also a friend to all of his colleagues, just a wonderful boss and just a really good person. And we miss him very much, but the work continues and we have a a new CEO that was named back in November named John Hart, and he's doing a great job so far. And we're just really focused on government efficiency, reducing waste and ending corruption, which we're excited to say that seems to be a very popular sentiment with the incoming administration. So looking forward to doing more work and having more impact this year.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, you were doing Doge before Doge became really, really cool, huh? Yes, indeed. So on the website, openthebooks.com, it is so fascinating because it is, in a way, it's kind of scary, but computers can figure out where you are. And so with Open the Books, They figure out what my location is, or maybe I put it in. But now what comes up is all of these different public entities that are on Open the Books. For example, City of Glendale, City of Golden, City of Greenwood Village, City of Lakewood, City of Littleton. You can go in there, City of Lone Tree, which was where I was a city council member 2012 to 2016. And it sheds light on what these salaries are. It is absolutely fascinating, Amber.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, so it's really exciting. You can choose to share your location with Open the Books, and it'll show you your local government salaries and sometimes checkbooks if they're available. It really came in handy with us the past couple of days as we were looking into the Los Angeles area. and found Karen Bass, the mayor, made about $300,000. And more controversially, their fire chief is making over $400,000 while instituting these problematic policies and DEI that kind of reduced the fire department's ability to actually be helpful.
SPEAKER 15 :
Anything else that you found out about L.A.?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Well, you can look it up on our recent substack, but those are our major findings, and we basically just looked into the salaries of the top officials. For instance, the person in charge of the water is making about $750,000. She comes from the private sector, PG&E, their controversial utilities company, and So it's been quite interesting as we learn more and more about the L.A. fires to see who is in charge, who is making the decisions, how much are they being paid, and what decisions did they actually make that could have adversely impacted the response to this disaster.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. And again, so that's OpenTheBooksSubstack.com. And again, all kinds of information there. And the first thing on all this is transparency. And so what you are doing is so important. And what we were going to talk about was all of this DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion at public universities. And there is huge money that you have uncovered regarding this, Amber Todorov.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, it's been really interesting. We've been investigating DEI spending and federal funding of universities since 2023. And as the universities have been radicalized and it became more and more clear as these campus takeovers happened in the wake of the attack on Israel, And also in general, just how left-wing these universities have become. So our first investigation showed that the Ivy League schools, plus Stanford and Northwestern, got about $33 billion in federal contracts and grant spending over five years. And in general, they collect more in government funds. tax dollars than they do in tuition, which is also government subsidized, the tuition as well. But we didn't get all into that. But that's just another thing to think about. Not only that, but their endowments are multi, multi billions of dollars. Those 10 schools have $240 billion in endowment and almost no tax on those endowments. So more recently, we started looking at public universities, which are in a lot of ways more important because they serve more people, more ordinary, high-achieving local students. So it's a really big problem. Those students are also getting radicalized, and federal tax dollars are going to that as well. For instance, our recent report on Ohio State shows that about $13 million was spent last year, or in 2023, for 201 employees with DEI-related roles. It's the highest amount that we found in our survey of different public universities, and we found a various problematic courses, including one called Sexualities and Citizenship, a survey of cultural, social, and political issues related to historical and contemporary lesbian experiences in the United States. This stuff is just crazy. And lots of these federal grants are also really kooky and really problematic in terms of what the federal government is supporting in our nation's public schools.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and then it isn't just so, first of all, all this money and it's tax dollars. So it's either being taken from us or also they're printing money, which is our children will have to pay off. But then also there's all this foreign influence as well, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
yeah that's true so there's a lot of foreign donations and it's all reported on the department of education website but no one really looks into this too closely it's not well reported but um we did an analysis that showed a 43 billion dollars have gone from to american universities from foreign sources since 1990. um most of that those dollars or or rather plurality of those dollars, about 25%, come from the Gulf states, so Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, and Kuwait. And a significant amount as well comes from China, about $2.8 billion.
SPEAKER 15 :
So this money really affects the curriculum, the agenda. And it used to be that getting a college degree would mean that perhaps you'd get a better job, a better lifestyle. I know that through my – I have another show, America's Veterans Stories, where I interview veterans. I've interviewed many, many veterans. World War II veterans. And when they came back from World War II, the GI Bill, many of them went to college, became engineers, doctors, lawyers, and they'd grown up poor in America. And so this had really given them the opportunity for a better life. And I think that that's many times what we have thought as parents and community members regarding university and colleges. But what we're seeing now, I know so many families that have sent their kids off to school and they've said, I don't know what happened. My kids went away and they had an appreciation for my values and the American idea. And they've come back and they hate what I do. And it's really tragic what's happened with this, Amber.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it's completely heartbreaking, and it's unacceptable, and there needs to be a huge amount of reform at these universities. And the public universities, especially, because they rely on taxpayer dollars, just think – the tragedy of parents paying through their taxes and tuition the radicalization of their own children. It's really mind-boggling, and it's sad. I went to University of Florida maybe like 15 years ago, and I saw this as well and experienced how the pressure of the universities to turn students into left-wing activists works. Luckily, it didn't work on me. But, yeah, it's really, really sad. And we need to stop subsidizing these universities with our tax dollars.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and then and the first thing, again, Amber, is to do the work that you're doing is open the books is to shed light on this. And then, of course, we need to take action. And what would you say the action is? And I think it is, is that we we really need to stop these government grants from the federal government, not only to universities, but also to local government institutions. and school districts, K-12, and counties and states. I really think, and I know that one of our listeners, Jenny, is going to say, it's basically like crack cocaine for, well, these universities and these other public entities is this money. And we got to get off of it, I think.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, you're completely correct. And I'm really excited about the Doge prospect. I think they're really sincere about ending DEI spending. It's ridiculous that even universities like we see the University of Florida system, which DeSantis has done a wonderful job of trying to de-radicalize DEI. that system and, um, reduce DEI across the board. But even so they got a, they get grants, um, from the federal government that are quite left wing. We have one that we found a project for $300,000 to use poetry writing and poetry analysis to enhance student learning and engineering education. What does that even mean? It's so dumb. Um, and, uh, No doubt it's a very left-wing project as well. We found other grants that are directly using Southern Poverty Law Center's teaching tolerance materials to create a, quote, anti-racist student body. So as PLC is a radical left-wing activist organization, why is the federal government funding the promotion of those materials? It's crazy. And it's not just government spending and government waste for its own sake. It would be one thing, I guess, if they were just taking those billions of dollars and setting them on fire. That would be better than spending – that money to actively harm Americans and American students and society more broadly through this spending.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, let's continue the discussion because you've uncovered things at Northwestern University and University of North Carolina. And so we'll talk about that. I'm talking with Amber Todorov, and she is the deputy policy director, editor for Open the Books. And shedding light on all of this is really the first step. And then, of course, we have to take action. We've got to get our brains around what is going on. And that's what we do at the show. And it happens because of sponsors. So for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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Indeed, it is Friday and welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. The text line is 720-605-0647. And definitely want to hear from you. Fascinating conversation with Amber Todoroff. She is the Deputy Policy Policy Editor for OpenTheBooks.com. Check out their website, OpenTheBooks.com, and also check out their sub stack at OpenTheBooks. Amber, it wasn't just Ohio State that you found information on. You also have a report revealing... Northwestern University and a lot of money that's come in from foreign entities. Tell us about that.
SPEAKER 13 :
So we have... investigated Northwestern as well. It's a major university and it's famously rocked by protests, pro-Hamas protests after the Israeli attack by Hamas on October 7th. And what we found was some pretty interesting things regarding foreign funding. One of the biggest funders is Qatar. And so they got about... $700,000 since 2007. And a lot of these are actually funding for scholarships for Qatari students to attend Northwestern.
SPEAKER 15 :
And how much, again, clarify, how much was that again, Amber?
SPEAKER 13 :
Nearly $700,000.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. That seems like chump change compared to all these bigger numbers that you're talking about.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, of course. I mean, $700,000 is not a lot of money in real terms, but we also have to consider, you know, they're using these as scholarships to take places for students, like American students that could have attended there and also students We have to think about the radicalizing effect of just getting any amount of money from foreign countries that are sometimes adversarial to our interests and how that could affect the administration and the temperature at Northwestern if they want to remain receptive to that sort of funding, which universities always want more funding. So we have to think about their motivations as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
So during break, producer Joe, who's 26, he made the comment when you had mentioned that $43 billion has come in to universities since – and is this public universities since 1999 from the Gulf states and from China? And Joe said – Go ahead.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, sorry. Go ahead. It's all universities, including private universities.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. So still $43 billion. And Joe said, aren't those, isn't that our enemies? And I thought, well, that's a pretty good point. Right, Amber?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it is a good point. And they're not just ideological enemies, but it's also a problem in terms of protecting our intellectual property at these universities, especially as we've already discussed, because the federal taxpayers are also funding this research and these universities. So when China... gives money to the universities and expects their scholars to join at the universities or to lead projects or to do, like, joint projects with the universities because of this money, we have to be very careful and think about how this could affect our intellectual property and our own interest in keeping that safe and also, of course, the radicalizing notions of having that influence in our universities. Wow.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, Amber, another thing. In this DEI that we're talking about, diversity, equity, and inclusion, initially it sounds good. We are a diverse nation. And The equity thing, that's a word that we've really unpacked is do you want equity and opportunity or equity and outcomes? And this seems to be equity and outcomes. So what that means is that you have really a race to mediocrity. And inclusion, of course, we all like to be included in things now. We're social animals and we like to be included. It's not fun to be excluded. But as we've really unpacked this word that we've realized, it really is Marxism, quite frankly. And also social emotional learning. That is another... Those are code words we need to be really careful of. And the idea that we are using our own money to... push an ideology that wants to basically destroy America is pretty shocking, quite frankly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it's real shocking. And, you know, even the mainstream media is starting to catch on. One of the biggest spenders on DEI in the United States in terms of universities is the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. And there was just a big report in The New York Times, of all places, about how their extreme DEI curriculum and atmosphere is making the campuses less tolerant and students more stressed out because they become hyper-focused. on identifying microaggressions and like supposed racisms and just these oppressor and oppressed narratives makes them very sensitive and very on edge. It's completely unnecessary and it's wrong. And last year, we also published an interesting, very long report on DEI, social emotional learning at the Department of Defense Pentagon Schools. These are K through 12, but it's the same sad story. And And it goes more into the SEL aspect as well and how that can be a vehicle for left wing radicalism.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, Amber, the work that you're doing is making a difference. Yes. And of course, you'd appreciate support from people as well, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that would be great. If you are interested in our work, check us out at OpenTheBooks.com. You can sign up for our sub stack as well. It's free. You'll be the first person to see all of our investigations and also our Twitter account is very active as posting the latest news that we find and the data that we have. And, of course, if you see anything interesting or want us to check out from your own local data, feel free to drop us a line. Our contact information is on our website, OpenTheBooks.com.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and to that point, Amber, when I was looking at my area, the city of Lone Tree was not on Open the Books. And so I asked you all if you would check into that. And now it is. It took a little bit of time. But you have such a vast... amount of information at Open the Books. And we've got a couple of minutes left. And I'm going to bet you said you went to school 15 years ago, so you're probably in your 30s. And are you encouraged about getting all this turned around?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I'm 32 years old, and I'm super excited to get this turned around. University of Florida was a wonderful place to learn. It was pretty radical back then, and I'm sure universities have only gotten a lot worse since then. I graduated in 2015. So we need to... make the universities just a learning environment, make it people excited to be Americans and to go out into the American economy and contribute afterwards and be well equipped to do so. And these investigations and transparency from the universities can help Do that by pointing out the problem areas where reform can be taken both at the federal and the state level. So we're super excited for what's to come. And also, I should add, there is going to be a very big report from open the books in the next couple of weeks. looking at a survey of different public universities beyond Ohio State and other things that we've reported and it'll be a really interesting compendium and I hope if you guys subscribe you'll see it and I'm sure you'll find it very interesting.
SPEAKER 15 :
Great. And we have like 13 seconds left, but we have this question and asking if these classes, these wild classes that you're mentioning, are they core classes or were they electives?
SPEAKER 13 :
So that's an interesting question. A lot of them are departmental specific classes, but I agree. It is a huge problem in terms of some of these universities adding core classes that are extremely left-wing in nature that nobody should be taking, but everyone is forced to take no matter their major. But it's something that we should look into more. I agree. It's an interesting question.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, Amber, this has been so great. Thank you so much. We'll stay in touch. We want to get you back on very soon. Thank you. Thanks a lot, Kim. Check out OpenTheBooks.com. The quote for the end of the show is from Thucydides. He said this, The secret to happiness is freedom, and the secret to freedom is courage. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you're not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Friday, Producer Joe. Happy Friday, Kim. And that first hour was super interesting, I thought, with Amber Todorov with the Open the Books and all of this money, just money, money, money that's gone to these universities from taxpayers and also from foreign entities. Many of them are enemies that have been used to indoctrinate our children. We scratch our heads and wonder what has happened. And then, of course, these kids have taken out student loans online. also uh and you can see it's just money money money and then these kids get out of college they're faced with all of these student loans and then and the oh biden harris administration had said that they were going to forgive those loans well they can't do that but this is this is quite the thing producer joe this is i don't even know what to say exactly Whoops, I threw it over to Joe and I bet he's being that happens sometimes when I throw it over. He's being sidetracked on things. So with that, this is it's quite the scheme. I guess I will just say that. So let's go ahead and get into some of these things. First of all, thank you to Laramie Energy and for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant power from oil, natural gas and coal. that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. That industry has been under attack in the culture, in legislation, rules, and regulations. Ultimately, what that means is our everyday prosperity is under attack. And that's why we do the show, is to... to shed light on this, to think about these issues, kick the tires on these ideas. And so be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. And again, thank you to all of you. I greatly appreciate you. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. And you can hear the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. And that's on all KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And we look at these issues and search for truth and clarity and look at these through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Ultimately, socialism is not about free stuff. It ultimately comes down to force because it's a bad idea. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Our word of the day and your challenge is to use these words in a sentence. The word is repugnant. It's R-E-P-U-G-N-A-N-T. And the first definition could be arousing disgust or aversion, could be offensive or repulsive. Number two, it could be contradictory or inconsistent. Or number three, disposed to fight against. So it's hostile or at war with. And there's a lot of, well, a couple of things. I will say with the conversation with Amber Totoroff with Open the Books, I find it repugnant. that these universities are taking all of this money to push forward agendas that are really many of them bent on tearing down our country. And she mentioned a number of the students are anxious. And apparently there is a book out called The Anxious Generation. And at church the other day, they said that they're going to address this. They're going to actually have a series on the anxious generation. And I hope I can work it into my schedule to attend that because all of this money has occurred to make many of our young people very anxious. And so we want to stay on top of all that. But your word of the day is repugnant. Try to use that in a sentence today. And then our quote of the day, it's Friday, so it's from the Center for American Values Medal of Honor quote book. Be sure and check out AmericanValuesCenter.org. They are going to have a very important event regarding the USS Pueblo, remembering it, and Bob Chica, who was on that USS Pueblo, which was captured by the North Koreans during the Vietnam War and held for years. as prisoners for over a year. And they're going to tell that story. And Bob Chica will be the presenter at their On Values presentation on January 23rd. So get more information about that by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. So the quote is from Leo K. Thorsness, United States Air Force Medal of Honor recipient. He was born in 1932. He died in 2017. And this was for actions that he took on April 19, 1967. And he was shot down two weeks later and he was in a prison camp for six years. And this was his quote. As a six year prisoner of war, I learned that freedom is our most important commodity. We keep it through personal responsibility. Freedom is the flip side of responsibility. And so great quote there. It's Friday, so what that means is it's a Jim May Friday. You know him, Cattleman. Jim May with Lavaca Meat Company. Jim, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning, Kim. It's good to be with you today. Can you hear me all right?
SPEAKER 15 :
I've got you. It sounds loud and clear, which is great, and great to see you yesterday as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was a nice visit. I enjoyed the crowd down there at Hooters, and we enjoyed It was good to be with you, and I'm cranked up to go for a new year here, and a lot of good things happening, and I'm excited about 2025.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I am as well, but one of the things that we talked about yesterday is our concern regarding these fires in California. What's your thoughts about that, Jim?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, your word of the day here is repugnant, and I look at some of the things that have happened with The woke left. You know, I'm not blaming it all on them. I understand. I've been hailed out. I've been blown out by tornadoes and all kinds of things. And I understand that part of it. But, you know, they broke about five or six reservoirs open and let all the water run to the ocean because of a little bitty fish. It's so silly. When they needed the water around them, they didn't have it. And it's just some of these things are just common sense. And Trump identified this way back in 17. You're doing this wrong. You're going to get in trouble. And so many of the things that he's identified have come to pass. You know, we started out with all these things about you're going to let everybody in this country, you're going to get some bad apples. And we've seen what's happened there and on and on and on. And I think the American public, I don't care if you're red, blue or what, but you're recognizing this. And we had a mandate and we had elections. And I just hope Judge Marchand is getting ready to sentence Trump here just in a few minutes. And I guess they just don't listen because all he's doing is making the judicial system look bad. A kangaroo court, I can find 12 people that can vote for something on his books that wasn't right and call it a felony and do that 34 times. And so now the President of the United States, the highest position in our land, is going to be you know, sworn in as a convicted felon. And you've really done a great thing for our country because it's all a joke.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I checked – yeah, I checked that out, Jim, because I was wondering, because that's the narrative. They want to say 34 counts. He was convicted of 34 counts. But then when I looked at it, what it was is it was a bookkeeping entry to request like an invoice, and then the check was issued, and then the accounting entry. And that's what those 34 counts are. And we are in quite a – quite a dangerous position if the future president of the United States can be convicted of accounting crimes, like accounting alleged crimes, I would say. And so this is going to be a very interesting day, don't you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
It is. And it really is pretty sad for our country. I don't think anybody should be proud of what's happened here. And all I'm saying is there are folks You know, they say nobody's above the law. Well, you know, Hunter Biden must be above the law. I guess George Soros, all those people we hung the medal of the presidential medal of honor around their neck. And now we've pardoned all these, you know, thousands of people that are just criminals to our country. They came in here and and get Mo and they're all off the hook. So there are people in this country that are above the law, unfortunately. What I've seen in the last, like I said, what I've seen here in the last couple months of this administration is repugnant. And I think a lot of people would agree with me.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I think that is true. And I'm excited about 2025. We all have a responsibility that we are engaged in government. And in fact, I had this quote that producer Steve had given me. Let me see if I can find this. Because I think a lot of people in California, these fires are experiencing this. And this was from a... Martha Gellhorn, American novelist, writer, and journalist, born in 1908. She died in 1998. And this is what she said. She said, I think that there are those in California that may have been very supportive of these blue policies, maybe rethinking their non-action in politics with what's happening out there, Jim.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and that's what I like about the Kim Munson show is because you're somebody that stands up, talks about it, does something about it, and that's really the reason I'm on this radio spot. We sell 10,000 times more meat to the public in another way than a little meat store. But it's a chance to voice some of these things. And we need to get out there and talk about it. We need to say some things because, you know, the media is still not learning from what, you know, they need to look at what's happened here and be a little smarter than what they are. And some people are coming around, I think, I think Facebook's coming around. Obviously, Elon with what he did with Twitter. You know, it's getting through. You're getting things done, Kim, in your way, and I hope you keep working at it, and I'll support you in everything you're doing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, Jim, I so appreciate it. And let's just talk a little bit about the Lavaca meet. And I know one of our listeners gave me a personal testimonial. She typically sends her brother-in-law a different message. meat box during christmas but has gotten to know you through the show and so she got a levaca meat box as fillets that was sent to her brother-in-law and he said it is true it is really the steakhouse experience at home and it is a premium product and it is worth every penny of it And so you're located at Lavaca in Maine, in Old Littleton, and would highly recommend that people, for a real treat, check that out. One other thing, when we met yesterday, you weren't sure you were going to have a cowboy poem today. You thought maybe you might write one last night. Do you have a poem for us today or not?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I've substituted something. I had Imogene pull something off a plaque on my wall in my office that was done a long time ago. And actually, it became a cowboy poem later on, but it's growing up with, we call them dad-isms, right?
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Yes.
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Dad-isms are things that my father said, and I know you're from my part of the world and understand simple ranch folk and how they think and talk. So I'm going to do that in just a minute. I appreciate the comments on the Lavaca meat, and I've gotten several of them. And Brad Becker, you had on the other day, just sent me a nice note as well. And I've had, you know, I get a little exposure here. I wish you could see my text line sometime, and I'm very appreciative of. I know we have a product. Our goal here is to give people the very best. It's as simple as that. You cannot hardly buy the steaks that Morton's or Cap Grill or, you know, Shanahan's can buy. That's part of our world. We get paid a lot more for that meat, and we're proud of that. But that's what goes to the steakhouses. And so we put that in our store for you folks to come in and barbecue sometime or throw one on the broiler in your oven. It's going to taste excellent. We keep it frozen and we tell you to let it thaw out at room temperature or use cold water if you need to. But you're going to experience the steakhouse thing. And if you really don't want to go out and do all the other things and you're going to pay for the ambiance and the drinks and all the other things that you do. And I hope you go to a steakhouse too, but there's a chance to go buy a really good piece of meat. It's kind of for the money, and it really is a value when you know what the system is. I hope, and if you come in our store, I hope maybe you just say, hey, I'm listening to the cowboy pull out there and want to buy some meat. And let us know if this is having an effect on you. I hope it is. But I'll tell Harley and Steve and Jerry to monitor this a little bit. We're hoping that this is something that's working. And if you can't come to the store, we can check us out at LavacaMeats.com.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Well, definitely, LavacaMeatCompany.com. And what is your poem today?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. It's not really a poem. These are the top ten classic quotes of my dad. It's more of a kind of a growing up experience and some of the things said out there in the world and out there in the farm world. So my dad was born in 25, and what brought this about was I was watching Jimmy Carter's funeral, and I realized that he was born in 25 also. My dad would be 100 years old today. Actually, he's been gone since 2013. But proud of the way we grew up. And this little list, this is like the David Letterman show. You remember that, where they had the top ten list? I do. And he started his show. So I pulled out one of those, and it begins and ends on the same thing. For a young man, the best thing, you don't learn anything when you're talking. Listen and listen and think and keep your mouth shut most of the time as you're growing up and try to, and that's what, that's something we, these are things we've lived by. These are the top 10 classic quotes of my dad.
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Okay.
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Number 10, if you ain't got something smart to say, shut up. Number nine, 50 years ago, we used to work like hell. Number eight, either stop working and start drinking or Or stop drinking and start working. Don't try to do both. Number seven. The whole family laughed at this. Who stole my jumper cables? Okay. Number six. It's one mile to the feedlot. You guys go full blast halfway and you slam on your brakes the other half. Number five. If I couldn't grow a better beard than that, I don't believe I'd try. Number four, if you never tell a lie, you won't have to try to remember what you said. Number three, it's almost six. What are you guys going to do, sleep all day? Number two, that red sign, don't say slow down. It says stop. And the number one thing, never pass up an opportunity to keep your mouth shut. Oh, my gosh, Jim. The classic sayings of my father in a growing-up world out on the range in eastern Colorado. So I'm sharing that with you today.
SPEAKER 15 :
I love it. So, Jim May, thank you. Lavaca Meat Company, check out lavacameatcompany.com, or lavacameat.com, I think it is. And we'll talk to you next week.
SPEAKER 05 :
Always good to be with you guys. Happy New Year. Let's have a great 2025.
SPEAKER 15 :
I really appreciate that. And yes, 2025, we're looking into 2025 with anticipation and hope. And I know all my sponsors and none of them are DEI sponsors, which is the race to mediocrity, which we're seeing with these DEI hires out in Los Angeles. They all strive for excellence. And one of those great sponsors. sponsors is the roger mangan state farm insurance team and they've been in business for 48 years because they strive for excellence take care of their clients he's taking care of his family and his community so give them a call for a complimentary appointment you might be able to save some money and also understand your insurance coverage like a good neighbor the roger mangan team is there
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Pleased to have on the line with me, Bonnie Brown. She is the Executive Director of the Colorado Wool Growers Association and Got to know her during the November election as we were shedding light on just how terrible a couple of these ballot initiatives were in Denver regarding shutting down meat processing in Denver city limits. And Denver... It's been known as a cow town. And then also to try to eliminate the sale of any fur products in Denver. Both of those fortunately were defeated and really learned a lot from the interviews with Bonnie Brown. So, Bonnie, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks, Kim, for having me back. Appreciate the opportunity to be here again.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and we haven't really congratulated each other on the fact that those two really terrible initiatives in Denver were voted down. And I'm so pleased. I was very concerned about those, Bonnie Brown.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, just a lot of hard work from the ag community involved. on that, getting the word out. And really great to see that Denver voters recognized the damage that would have been caused by that and the ulterior motives of the group that was pushing that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and so we have this issue that did get through the ballot box, and that was the reintroduction of wolves on the west side of the Continental Divide. And it was really probably... approved by many of the voters in the urban area of Denver and Boulder. And I've said, if the people of Denver and Boulder wanted wolves in Colorado, then they should have voted to put them in their own backyard instead of somebody else's backyard. But they are in the backyard of our farmers and ranchers on the Western slope. Of course, those wolves are moving around as well, Bonnie.
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You know, in the, in the time that this has started when they've got paws on the ground, um, Wolves have killed about 30 head of cattle, 12 sheep, three dogs, and one llama. That's just what's confirmed. That's not the livestock that's missing. And, you know, an interesting comparison is we've had more depredation in Colorado in less than one year with the release of 10 wolves than the entire state of Montana has had in the last year with a population of over 1,000 wolves. And that's largely due to the fact that Colorado Parks and Wildlife's brought in wolves from Oregon that already had a history of killing livestock. And that was explicitly stated in the state management plan that they were not supposed to bring in wolves that had a history of depredation. So it's just been basically an unmitigated train wreck. This fiasco has cost about $5 million to date through the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Association. That doesn't include the money spent by the Colorado Department of Agriculture or the money that's been donated by NGOs.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and it looks like, at least from headlines that I'm seeing, that Colorado Parks and Wildlife, which are the appointees on that board that lead that department, are those POLA's appointees or who are they exactly?
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so the Colorado Parks and Wildlife is our state game agency that manages wildlife. But their regulations have to go through the Wildlife Commission. And that board is really, at this point, unfortunately, heavily influenced by our governor. Those appointees to the Wildlife Commission, they do have to be confirmed by the state senate. But what we've really seen since the Polis administration is him stacking people on that commission that are very, you know, anti-agriculture, anti-traditional hunting. Landowners are a big component of wildlife farming. management in our state because we have so much of the habitat, in particular the crucial winter habitat. So we've always worked closely with what was formerly Colorado Parks and Wildlife. We used to be Colorado Division of Wildlife. It was combined years ago when the Parks Department was in trouble, and now we're all in trouble because the focus has shifted away from traditional management models on game management and really trying to throw the landowners under the bus.
SPEAKER 15 :
So there has been the depredation, you said the confirmed depredation. It's probably a lot more than that, that lambs and calves and cattle, and you said there were dogs and llama, and that's just really more the domesticated animals as well. I imagine there's been a lot of depredation in the deer and elk community area as well, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and, you know, that was one of the really upsetting things about Prop 114 when it passed in 2020 is in the blue book, voters didn't see any impacts to what would happen to our big game herds. And that was an interesting process to really be invested in trying to get the language in the blue book so it would accurately reflect the impacts of this ballot initiative. And it wasn't. It clearly ignored impacts to our big game herds. Our outfitters out there, you know, they're an important part of Colorado, too, and they were completely ignored during this process.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and this whole Blue Book process, because I've been involved in trying to submit information or copy that's going to be in there, and it is a bit of a political game, just what even gets into the Blue Book, Bonnie Browne.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know what it is. And that's really disappointing to me because prior to being so wrapped around the axle on these issues, you know, I thought that was like the authoritative guide. And so many of our voters just look solely to that. Well, the fiscal note in 2020 in the blue book, I think estimated the cost of Wolf introduction through 2024 would be $1.6 million. We've already exceeded, I think, $5 million cost on this program.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and that is why I decided to start to do my voter's guide back in 2016 or so. And we ended up with our voter's guide because we really try to bring truth to this. I give the actual ballot question. Well, the ballot question and then all of the background on that as well. You're not just voting on what's on that ballot question. There is a lot of other things that you're voting on. You need to know all of that. And then I will give an opinion and my reasoning. And then hopefully people have information and they will make their own decision. And we had, oh, gosh, I think we had over 60,000 page views on the website and over 6,500 downloads on our voters guide, which I think really made a difference regarding these issues, Bonnie Brown.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, that's such an important tool to be able to fight, you know, the sound bites. in misinformation and outright lies that we see on social media. You know, we, unfortunately, you know, we both know that people get a lot of information off their little Facebook, you know, bites and stuff. And, People really have to do their due diligence. And so, you know, I would just reinforce that with listeners that the Blue Book is a good document, but you have to go beyond that to research these issues to understand the impacts of what you're voting on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, it is really important that we understand what we are voting on. I'm talking with Bonnie Brown. She is the executive director of the Colorado Wool Growers Association. And we're talking about wolves. There's been many things that are being introduced in our society that ultimately limit our food supply. And we in the urban area have taken for granted abundant and affordable food at the grocery store. And we've got to make sure that we protect those that feed and fuel us. And that's why we have these important discussions. Before we go to break, I did want to mention the Center for American Values. I may have done that already, but check out. They're going to have a really important event on Monday. January 23rd on an On Values presentation regarding the USS Pueblo. And Bob Chica was on the USS Pueblo. They were taken prisoner by the North Koreans. You know what? Maybe I want to make sure that I got that right. It was either the North Vietnamese or the North Koreans. And they were prisoners for over... And you can get the correct information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. And all of this happens because of our sponsors for everything residential real estate. Reach out to Karen Levine.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And regarding that event at the Center for American Values in Pueblo, on January 23rd. It was the USS Pueblo on January 23, 1968, was captured by the North Koreans. And the crew was held captive for over a year. And one of those crew members will be presenting on January 23rd down at the Center for American Values. And that is Bob Chica. You can get more information by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. On the line with me is Bonnie Brown. She is the executive director of the Colorado Wool Growers Association. And, Bonnie, we've been talking about this wolf reintroduction. And as I think people are understanding what this is really doing is I think the wolf was romanticized by those that were pushing that wolf. and now I've seen pictures of carcasses of lambs and calves that have been attacked. And so people, I think Coloradans might be up for repealing that. And so there might be some action going on on that, yes?
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Well, there has been a title filed on that, but I would say on that, you know... Beware of unintended consequences. So that would go through in 2026. By that time, we're probably going to have 40 to 50 wolves on the ground already. And so our statutory funding language is also linked to to Prop 114. So if that's repealed, so is your statutory obligation for funding compensation. And they're already going to have wolves on the ground. We're going to have more wolves through migration and more wolves through reproduction. So again, that's one of those things people really need to be educated on. Initially, it sounds really good on the surface, but there needs to be a lot further discussion on that issue.
SPEAKER 15 :
I always hear the term stakeholders. Well, I think the stakeholders in this really are probably the farmers and ranchers. So are the farmers and ranchers, and you mentioned also the outfitters, do they have a seat at the table on this conversation?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, interestingly enough, the... individuals that filed that haven't reached out to any of the major stakeholders on this, which are your big landowner livestock organizations. And I'm not as tied into the sportsman groups, but I think they were taken by surprise on this as well. So again, I think something very well intended. But if you look at the timeframe, if you look at the statutory language, I think there's some concerns there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
The other thing about that, I just want to mention quickly, a repeal does not compel CPW to go out and remove those wolves that have already been released. They're still going to be on the landscape.
SPEAKER 15 :
And aren't those wolves also, I think I remember legislation last year that really protected them, protected wolves, I think. Do you remember that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, there was a lot of things going on, and there still is. But what One thing that got put in place was the federal 10-J designation, which is an ESA designation. That's actually a positive. It declared the Colorado... Wolf population is non-essential experimental, which through the federal ESA process enabled lethal take for depredating wolves. But POLIS got in the middle of that. I mean, POLIS is not going to let CPW go out and depredate. kill depredating wills. We've already seen that with the Copper Creek Pack that should have been clearly eliminated early last year and would have eliminated all this livestock loss that we've not nearly all the livestock loss that got claimed in 2024. But Polis wouldn't let CPW do their job. Wow. So there's a lot of moving parts, both federal and state on this issue.
SPEAKER 15 :
So do you anticipate any changes with the Trump administration coming in?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I know, you know, it's likely that federally wolves will get delisted in the lower 48, which is a good thing because they've been recovered for decades. We will still, if that does happen, we'll still have all the state restrictions here in Colorado and probably litigation ad nauseum on wolves. You know, we've seen that in the other states, just decades of litigation by the pro-wolf groups. And, you know, if it's OK, quickly, I'd like to talk about the non-lethal hoax for a few minutes, because that's something that I think most people clearly don't understand.
SPEAKER 15 :
I remember that piece of legislation. Yes, definitely.
SPEAKER 16 :
So one of the things that's really pitched through CPW and Department of Ag and by the wolf advocates is if you use all these non-lethal methods, wolves won't kill livestock. Well, we've clearly seen that fail already in the first 24 months. But I went to Arizona. to a range rider program about two months ago to go through their range rider program and talk about non-lethals. And one of the things that CPWs, you know, pitched through their workshop is, you know, if you teach cattle to stand quietly, they won't stampede away from the wolves and we can all hold hands and life will be wonderful. Well, Arizona Ranch down there that has incurred a lot of Depredation, clearly told me they've had more mama cows killed by wolves that have stood their ground and fought to protect their calves than any of their cattle that have got spooked and run from wolves. So, you know, the point is with that story is non-lethals, they might have a short timeframe where they work, but wolves quickly get habituated to them. And wolves will come in and kill livestock anyway. But there's really this narrative statewide that, oh, if you just use non-lethal control, we don't have to shoot wolves and they won't kill cattle or sheep. And it's just patently false.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I think there was a piece of legislation last year, because as I'm president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is an all-volunteer group, that we watch legislation that is scheduled for hearing for the next week. And I remember a piece of legislation that I think was signed into law by Polis, designating some of these officers with Colorado Parks and Wildlife that would go out, and they were like non-lethal officers. officers or something, and I thought, wow, that's almost crazy. Do you remember that one?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yeah. Both Parks and Wildlife and the Department of Ag, they're working jointly to implement programs where they're going to have range riders and have additional funding for non-lethal animals. And again, it can work for a short time. But one other thing in particular for the sheep ranchers that they're asking is that we night pin our sheep. Well, when you're on a summer allotment in the national forest, I mean, you really have to watch your forage management so you're not trampling down your forage. It's impractical to put up electric fencing every night. Can you imagine trying to string up fencing through the oak brush in Denver? You know, recreationalists get mad if they see you out on a meadow in an open area with, you know, a few head of livestock. But yet now we have government agencies, state agencies saying, trying to dictate to us on federal Forest Service allotments how we manage our livestock, and that's in direct conflicts with these allotment management plans that we do with the Forest Service or BLM that closely monitor forage management so you're not in effect overgrazing. But now the wolf advocates in the state agencies want us to bunch up our livestock, trample forage because there's wolves on the ground.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and one other, forage management done properly, I would think, would help prevent grass fires and forest fires, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, we've worked for decades on good management programs where you do have your livestock dispersed across the landscape. And we know this from livestock producers in other states. Once you get wolves on the ground, whether it's cattle or sheep, they really want to bunch up. They don't want to move. They don't want to go out and graze. And they stand there and trample the forage. And if you look at, you know, there's been a lot of information released in the media right now about those several big livestock claims that were filed through the Wolf Program, you know, the $580,000 in losses. And when you're looking at loss of weight, which I think is one of the things they filed on, their weaning weights on their calves were a lot lighter. It's because those cattle aren't out. They're not grazing. They're not utilizing that pasture and eating. They're bunched up and scared because they've got wolves in the area.
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Okay. So Bonnie Brown, this was from one of our listeners, came in on the text line, says, the wolves they're giving us are northern Canadian timber wolves. They're not the prairie wolf that was indigenous to the United States. So I guess there's different species, I guess, of wolves as well. Wow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's a great comment. I mean, we're getting much larger wolves than we've had here historically. We have less habitat for them. Our guardian dogs that we use, when they come up against wolves, they lose. They're supposed to be out there protecting against bears and lions and coyotes, which they can do quite effectively. But you have these big wolves come in and start to attack livestock, and guardian dogs go out there, and typically they get killed when they're trying to protect their livestock.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my gosh. This is another thing that came in on the text line. Is it possible to decouple wildlife from the parks?
SPEAKER 16 :
You know what? I wish it was. I was adamantly opposed. I know that the livestock, at least Colorado Wool Growers Association, I believe some of the other livestock associations, we opposed that years ago when parks was put together with wildlife because of budgetary issues. And it's been a terrible, terrible mistake to do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Bonnie Brown, it's totally fascinating. Your final thought, and I imagine you're getting very excited about the National Western.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's always a great event to have in the state, especially this year after defeating the slaughter ban. So, you know, what we just need on the wolf issue, citizens going to these wildlife commissions and just injecting some common sense into these crazy activist comments that we're hearing on wolves.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. And where's the place people should do that? Is there a website?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, they can go to the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission page on the Colorado Parks and Wildlife website.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, great.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I can send you the link for that.
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it is friday welcome back to the kim munson show check out our website that's kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and nonprofit i dearly love is the usmc memorial foundation And they're raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial, which is here in Colorado. And so we as Coloradans need to support that. And I would really recommend that you put that on your repertoire to support in 2025. You can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Text line 720-605-0647. We're going to try to get through some of these texts here. First one, this is from Susan talking about President Trump, his sentencing today for the criminal actions which are accounting crimes. accounting entries and she said this she said the real issue is it's just shows that they can come after any of us for an accounting entry error and some of that is all how that issue is perceived and so that is very very wise let's see next thing here Holly, if large livestock are afraid of the wolves, what about the rest of wildlife that the wolves are probably also absolutely decimating? Large Canadian wolves are going to completely upset the ecosystem in Colorado, and possibly this is done with intent. I think very, very possibly that they know what the results will be of this. Let's see. Next thing. Okay, here we go. This is from a listener said when the Cameron Peak and Alexander the Storm Mountain fires came close in Larimer County, it was terrifying. And our listener said the first thing that she did was called her elderly neighbors to make sure they knew the fires were moving so fast and asked if they had a place to go. She said, I started packing all of the important documents, family photos and keepsakes. I'm thinking that Roger and I should do something, Roger Mang on emergency situation. I think that is really a good idea. And we talked a little bit about it with Brad Beck yesterday because he'd been in an earthquake in California. And we all need to be prepared. We don't look to the government to save us. because it's just individuals. And we can see what's happening with the mismanagement in California, the blowing up of dams, there's not water available, turning on fire hydrants and there's no water there. And I think people are having their eyes wide open. They're becoming wide open on just how this can be so incompetent. And this whole global warming thing regarding wanting to make sure that we care about our air and our earth. Just think about what is happening to the air in California right now with all of the brush and the trees and the buildings and the homes that are going up in smoke. And just think what that is doing for air quality there. So this is all about control. It's all about anti-human flourishing. And so that's why we need to stay informed on all this. And do check out a climate conversation dot com. because there's a lot of great information there. Let's see if I can get through. Let's see here. Gammy, listen to the governor's State of the Union speech. It was very eye-opening and alarming. And I need to listen to that as well, so I'll need to debrief with her on that. But we really are, we have those in government, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that are pushing And people do not do well under Marxism. In fact, people starve. But they're equal in their starvation, which is what the problem is. And of course, the elites then, they want to have everything for themselves. See if I can get any more text messages in here. Hold on just quickly. Colorado, this is from another listener, said that they heard that they're planning on introducing It wolves into Colorado for the next 10 to 15 years. Wow. And then also a listener said, yay for Lavaca Meat Company. She's going to stop by today. So I thank all of you and I wish you a great weekend. Our quote for the end of the show, I was looking for courage quotes, and this is from Thucydides. He said this, the secret to happiness is freedom and the secret to freedom is courage. And so my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And we'll talk to you on Monday.
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God has blessed our nation abundantly. Yet we have turned away from God and divine establishment principles. We’ve taken our eyes off the Giver and are focused on the gifts, and we’ve become an arrogant nation. Our nation is involved in a lot of sin. Dishonesty, hypocrisy, and greed have become the norm. “Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength, whose heart departs from the Lord” (Jer 17:5). The Bible warns us we can’t change anyone but ourselves. That’s where it starts. We need to be spiritual influencers if our nation has any chance of recovering.
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And we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Edward Bartlett joining us now, president of the International Council for Men and Boys. Edward, you've been on before with us. Welcome back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, good to see you.
SPEAKER 04 :
How's it going? I'm good. I appreciate you joining us. And we're going to talk about something that, frankly, I talked about all the way up to Election Day. And that is Trump winning because Democrats keep telling young men, boys, that really they're dangerous. They don't matter. They don't have any value. And frankly, you know, Edward, literally, I firmly believe one of the largest reasons for the big win Trump had is exactly that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I don't think there's any doubt about that. I mean, going back as early as October, there was an editorial that referred to men, especially young men, as the new, quote, power demographic. So the trend was obvious even in the mid-fall, and then we saw the actual election results, whether you're talking about Hispanic men, young men, men without a college degree, all of these groups of men voted, the majority of young men voted in favor of Trump. So, yeah, it was really a powerful cultural moment and a powerful cultural statement as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I think, and I'd said this prior to the election, had lots of people that actually sort of followed along with me, and I don't want to take any credit, but I think it was one of the first groups you know, open type talk shows, if you would, to talk about that. Because, by the way, that doesn't typically get talked about on talk shows because, you know, we got to be careful when we talk about men, especially toxic masculinity and all of the other nonsense. But I think in this particular case, Edward, men in general just got tired of being told they don't matter anymore.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that's very true. But another piece of this puzzle is that we find that women are many of our strongest supporters are women not just in the US but around the world we see really a powerful trend of women that are just sick and tired of their husbands, their brothers, their sons being vilified, being stereotyped in these very negative ways. So, yeah, this is an issue that's cross-cutting.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. International Council for Men and Boys, you guys are a nongovernmental organization that work to ensure gender equality for all, and really, in a lot of ways, because, again, I've had you on in the past. Really, you're trying to lift men and boys up and really teach boys how to be men, correct?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yes, and this is not an either-or situation. proposition this is both and women have had as much to gain from men who are self-confident who are strong absolutely good sense of masculinity women will be the been are the beneficiaries of this as well whether we're talking about husbands I mean really it's a cultural issue and that we have to stop playing, allowing the feminists to play women against men and men against women.
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Do you see what happened? And this is a question I even have in the back of my mind because I don't have a crystal ball. I can't look down the road. There is a huge movement. We saw what happened on Election Day. Granted, everything kind of dust settles a little bit. You know, Trump will get inaugurated and then we'll move forward with a new presidency. Do you see this movement on... The, you know, the male side of things from both parties, by the way, conservative versus the the Democrat side. And frankly, I call them Marxist because I think that's what they are. But at the end of the day, do you see any of that shifting? In other words, will the left learn from the mistakes it made prior to this last election or will they keep going down that same road?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I will gaze into my crystal ball. My crystal ball says that, yes, there are, in fact, some Democrats who are learning from this lesson. That said, the Democratic Party is so wedded to use your term, neo-Marxist feminist ideology, that they are not going to be able to break loose from that until they lose a couple more big elections. I think that is how deeply ingrained this feminist ideology has become, especially in the Democratic Party.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't argue with you. And I've seen some heads inside of the Democrat Party say the same thing you just said, although they are still the minority that are speaking that way. I mean, the reality is I still see the majority on that side. You know, they're pushing all of the DEI and all of the other nonsense that's out there. And the reality is they still have this goal, if you would, of demeaning men. I don't know any other way to say it, Edward, really, to demean men. And at the end of the day, that's not going to pay off for them. And by the way, it doesn't pay off for society either, to your point earlier.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, right. And remember, feminism is derived directly from Marxist ideology. Remember that ideology always is, for the believers of that ideology, ideology is a far more powerful motivator than science. or more powerful motivator than sort of reality. So, yeah, this is going to be a difficult lesson for Democrats to learn. I hope it's sooner rather than later.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. So along those lines, for all of the folks that I have that are listening that want to be a part of this side of the movement and they want to teach boys how to be men and men how to be better men, What do we do? How do they do that? I mean, do you guys have resources that they can find on your website? How do folks that want to get involved in this, they want to teach young men how to be great men, how do they do that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, sure. Well, first let me share our website address. Here it is, www.menandboys.net, menandboys.net. And everything we say there is science-based, and it turns out that amazingly, Men and boys, not just in the U.S., but globally, are lagging behind women in 12 different ways. Shorter lifespans, higher suicide rates, much higher homelessness, being a victim of worksite mortality, education. I mean, the list really is astonishing. So this whole myth of the patriarchy that's seeking to you know, take away women's rights. Well, that's just a myth. If anything, there's a matriarchy because there are powerful women's groups that will never admit that women are actually doing better than men in so many ways.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I also know, you know, Edward, I'm around enough other men, and I hope raise some, well, I know I raised some really great boys that have turned into great men as well, and I will tell you that great men love great women as well. In other words, it's our job to help lift them up and make them even better, and good men do that, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, exactly. I mean, when I see women, I mean, you may have heard about this, Her name was Jessie Phillips in the UK. She actually had sex with a thousand different men, literally in one day. And my heart goes out, like, wow, how is it possible for a woman to demean and debase herself like that? So I am all for it. uplifting women just like I want to uplift men.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I think too, Edward, and this is the one side that the other side really doesn't understand, what you just said or what I just said is foreign to them. They think that we are somehow against women and want to hold them back and hold them down, and the reality is we're actually doing more to lift them up than they are.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I mean, again, this is the whole Marxist ideology, divide and conquer, you know, always portray You know, this group is trying to harm another group, whether it's blacks and whites or I mean, it's just an endless narrative that you hear. But, yeah, it's really time to call out the fallaciousness of this narrative and say it is harmful to families. It's harmful to our society.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. I cannot disagree with you at all. And again, I really feel like, and I talked about this prior to the election being won, that I really felt like these were the things that were happening leading up into the election itself, that men were just... Honestly, they're getting tired of being nitpicked, yelled at, demeaned, told they don't mean anything, they don't matter. We're telling young boys that. And then, Edward, we wonder at the end of the day why we have so many social problems going on with young boys.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I guess what I would say to the male listeners on this interview is to be proud of your masculinity. Amen. Act with integrity, with honesty and love. Above all, be proud of your masculinity. In my view, that's what's going to be one of the most important forces that will redeem the world. with all of this negative Marxist ideology around us.
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Can't argue that. Edward Bartlett, again, I appreciate you joining us. MenAndBoys.net, and spell it all out so it's not the Amber Sand, but MenAndBoys.net. Edward, as again, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for joining us, sir.
SPEAKER 15 :
Great to talk with you, John. Be in touch.
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All right, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And I know I'm not trying to make fun of Jimmy Carter and his funeral because that's not what you do to the dead. But this isn't me. I didn't do the prayer there, and I think this was actually at the viewing, not the actual funeral. But there was a pastor there that I'm going to play that is essentially – reciting the same prayer from Meet the Parents. And no, I'm not exaggerating because I'll play them. Whoever put this together did both, one on top of the other. And all I can say is you can't make this stuff up, folks. Let me play it. You can listen.
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Just to know you more clearly, to love you more dearly, and to follow you more nearly. Each day. To love thee more dearly, to see thee more clearly, to follow thee more nearly, day by day. My day. Amen.
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Amen.
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Again, folks, you can't make this stuff up. And again, I'm not trying to make fun of Jimmy Carter and the funeral and all that. I mean, he, I think, was, make sure I say this correctly, Charlie, oldest living past president, meaning now who's, I didn't do the math, who's next? Bush? Who would be next? I don't, well, yeah, you're right, Charlie, probably Biden, actually, age-wise. Yeah, you're probably right. At any rate, I'm not trying to make fun of Jimmy Carter's funeral or anything along those lines. It's weird that Michelle Obama couldn't make it to the funeral, which... You've got to wonder, was it because Trump was there? Did she not want to be by Trump, be around Trump? Jill won't sit by Trump. Although Obama and Trump were having a pretty good time as far as a funeral goes, and they were even laughing and kind of elbowing one another and so on. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. You can go look at the clips that are out there of the video of the two of them, and I don't know what all they were talking about. I'd love to be a little mouse there and listen in to what they were actually saying. And at the end of the day, again, I'm not trying to make fun of Jimmy Carter and the life he lived or anything along those lines. I've made it. I've made this very clear. I think he was one of, if not the worst president of my lifetime. Now, it's probably going to be a close second to Joe Biden. So I think those two are kind of neck and neck because Joe hasn't been much better. I will say, and I said this yesterday, I do believe Jimmy Carter is a better man than Was a better man than Joe Biden. What I mean by that is ethically, morally, all of that. I think Jimmy Carter is a much better man than Joe. Joe's a criminal. Joe's a crook. Sorry, I have no other way to say it. Those of you on the left following him. Oh, my word. Really? The Biden crime family? Really? It was funny. I was talking to somebody on vacation where this subject came up and we were talking about, you know, Kamala and why didn't she win and this, that and the other. And this person was pretty much in the middle, although you kind of wondered where they were completely in all of this. But something to the effect came up that, well, you know, Joe is just a really nice guy. And I'm like, you mean Joe Biden from the Biden crime family? And this person looked at me like, what are you talking about? I'm like, yeah, that guy's there's more dirt on him. You know, everything from the Hunter laptop that was suppressed prior to the 2020 election on and all of this is now factual. It's come out. This is not me making up anything. You can go look this stuff up for yourself. By the way, I never tell anybody on vacation what I do. If they ask me what I do, I own businesses back home. That's my answer. I never tell anybody that I'm a talk show host because that can lead to all sorts of other things that I don't want to get into. Sometimes they may look at you one way versus the other. And so I just tell people I own businesses. And then we have these kinds of conversations. And I think, by the way, I get a lot more open conversation from people when they don't know what I do versus me telling them what I do. And by the way, I'm not lying because I do own businesses. So I'm not lying to them. I'm just not being 100% truthful in what I do. Yeah, and it is a small part of my day. So thank you, Charlie. So yeah, at the end of the day, I'm not lying. I'm truthful. But when you tell people some of these things, here's one of the things that I realize at times. People are really uninformed. People really do get a lot of their news from the nightly media. Afternoon, evening, nightly, The View, wherever. And they don't dig in and really learn what's going on. And it's why a lot of you, of course, listen to us, and I appreciate that greatly. And I don't listen to any media. I try to give you guys all things that I go out and research on my own and bring to the table that way. I don't watch mainstream media. But when I go on vacation and talk to some of these people, you really learn that I'm the minority. Most do. And now I will also tell you that a lot of people that I meet are typically on our side of the aisle, and they're very happy that Donald Trump won, and they can't wait for, you know, the inauguration day and what comes afterwards and so on, especially a lot of the guys that I meet that are small business owners themselves and so on. They're ecstatic. They're excited. But when you meet somebody where they really have no idea who Joe Biden is, and I was very kind, I'm like, you know, you really ought to go do a little bit of investigative work on just the Biden family in general, because there's a guy that's been in politics for 50 plus years, entered a popper, and now is a multimillionaire, hundreds of millions of dollars. And a lot of that money coming from China, and that's very provable. all the shell companies and everything else that he has, that the Biden family has. And yes, all of that can be proven. I am not saying anything out of line or that can't be proven. So I tell this person some of those things and they look at me with this sort of deer in the headlight look like, you're kidding me. And I'm like, no, I'm not kidding you. I'm being very straight up honest. And it would behoove you to go look some of these things up. Well, I will. Whether they will or not, I have no idea. But My point is, for those of us that end up in public at different times and different settings and so on, and again, not boasting by any means, but that's the conversation you should have. I wasn't being judgmental. I was being very open-minded. I was listening to what the other side, in this case probably the middle, had to say. I don't know how they voted one way or the other. I didn't ask, didn't need to. The outcome is as it is anyways. I don't care how they voted. had good conversation outside of that, but when that particular conversation came up, because they're also self-employed people, and that's where the subject kind of came up with how things are going to work as soon as Trump takes over and blah, blah, blah, and one thing leads to another, and pretty soon we're having that conversation. My point is you can have these what I call sane conversations. I get it. Not with everybody on the left. Some lefties are crazy. you can't have any conversation with them. They're not going to listen to any kind of reason whatsoever. And in those cases, don't waste your time. But with what I experienced in that particular conversation, it wasn't a waste of my time. And it did, I think, bear some fruit when it was all said and done. And I do think this person will actually go and look some things up when it comes to Joe Biden and might even have their eyes open for the future. And by the way, that's part of what We should be doing along that end of things. So anyway, just just my two cents when it comes to those things. It's not as hard to talk to people on this level as some may think. You just have to figure out where the common ground is and how you get that dialogue started. And then, like in my case, throw some things in there where they can then go do some of their own research and. And find some of that. And by the way, I also said you're not going to be able to Google this and find it that way. 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All right, we are back. We've got another guest joining us here in just one moment as well that we will get lined up. And I was looking at, as we were going through the break, their previous presidents that are still alive. So we'll list those off for you all. Most of you probably already know this, but Clinton, George W. Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. And I do think Charlie is correct in age that Biden will be the oldest. I believe, oldest ex-president now after Jimmy Carter just passed. Again, I have to go back through and do the math on these and figure that out exactly, but I think that's correct. And if somebody's out there listening and can do that math for me, you know, be my guest. But I do believe that that, in fact, will be the case. So Charlie rattled that off right off the top of his head. So at any rate— That's where we're at when it comes to previous presidents. And there were some comments today about who will be at Donald Trump's funeral, who will speak and deliver some of the messages and so on. And it's just speculation, but it's thought-provoking in and of itself. Dr. Kanani joining us right now. Doctor, how are you today, sir?
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I'm beautifully well, thank you.
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It's always a joy having you. Welcome back, and I appreciate it. America's security at stake. Talk to us about H-1B visas.
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Well, H-1B visas is part of the problem. If you allow me, I explain why do we have to do to H-1B visa and what the problem is with that.
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Okay, go for it.
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In... In January of 2021, the Pentagon presented a report to the Congress called Industrial Capabilities. The problem, actually, the issue that they wanted to bring to the attention of the country and Congress was the fact of the matter that our industrial capability actually is going to be in jeopardy for national security because our STEM education during the past several decades, during the past 50 years or so, has been neglected in our high schools and thereby our universities. And we have not been able to graduate enough STEM-related engineers and scientists or workers.
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So in other words, we're not growing enough of our own.
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We are not growing of our own. And in that report, they said that China is producing or is graduating 800% more, eight times more. than United States. STEM graduated from their colleges and universities. And the 800% and India, 400% more than us. Okay. That was the report in January of 2021. And they said that poses a national security problem for us. In that report also, they said in 2021, that we estimate that in 10 years from now, namely in 2031, we will have a shortage of, a shortage, not the number of that we need, the shortage of one million, okay, STEM-related jobs that we will not be able to, we will not be able to fulfill. And meaning that the whole number of STEM jobs that we need, there would be over 10 million, but at least we'll be short of 1 billion. And that's the problem that now brings us to H-1 visa. Because the problem is that we don't have the proper STEM education in our high school, even elementary, even kindergarten, wherever it starts. But mostly in high school, because then after that, It's where the student, they decide when they are in the 10th, 11th, 12th grades, what to decide, what they want to do, and whether they're going to go to college, what they want to study, and what field they want to go to. And we have been neglecting that part of it so that we will have a shortage, which causes a national security for us.
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And that's where, because of all of that, what you're saying, that's where H-1B came from.
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That is correct. Okay. Now, the problem also is that this has continued. When we said we need to have H1 and the people and the industry, they went and they hired foreign engineers or the foreign engineers who came to our state, our universities and colleges. and graduated and stayed here to work. So they did take a bidet. We want to allow that to happen. But then the Center for Immigration Studies in July of, in July of, in actually in September of, July of 2022, a year after, a year and a half later, they published a report about 30, 40-page report. And they called that report science, technology, espionage, and math instead of STEM. They said, hey, people, wake up. This is Center of Immigration Studies. Wake up. These people that we let come in into our countries with H-1 visa, they came here instead of, now they call it espionage, And many of them, especially for China, especially from China, they come here, they get a graduate, they get the knowledge, and they go back to their country. But many of them stay here and get hired by the industries who knows these kind of graduated people, and they are here. to do this espionage and find out what we are doing in our industries and then they report that back to their own country or they go back after several years to take the knowledge back with them. So that's the problem that we have.
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No, that one, I see that one being a, to your point, a huge national security problem. And let me have a comparison and tell me if I would be correct in this. You know, we were back in the space race, getting to the moon, trying to beat the Russians there and so on and so forth. This would have been like not having anybody in our own space program, having to recruit at that time. particular time, Russians to come into the country and work for us to be able to get to the moon. The reality is the space program wouldn't have been what it was had we have done that. Am I correct?
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Absolutely.
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Okay. So that's basically a comparison to what you're saying.
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Yes. Okay. And then the Center for Immigration Studies, two years later, in September of 15, 2024, comes back and reiterate this problem for the country. And I say, hey, listen, the problem is getting worse and worse. We are getting more and more, okay, HB1 visa in this country, and this is causing more and more problem for us because nobody has taken any action in the educational system that we have in order to listen to the report of Pentagon in January of 2021. Then the Center of Immigration Studies in 2022, and then now in September of 2024, they bring that to people's attention. Hey, this problem is getting bigger and bigger. So now, even now, Elon Musk has come and said, oh, we need to increase the number of HB1 visas because our industry is going to need it. But the fact of the matter is we have reports that these people come here and many of them are good, but some of them are very bad and take our information away. So we, Los Angeles Art College and Brampton Art Institute of Technology, under the supervision of U.S. Art Operation, we have developed technology. The STEM program, we have spent four years, okay, since I became aware of what is happening in 2021 in Congress, I started for us to put together a robust, rigorous, genuine STEM program. And the STEM program includes a STEM curriculum for high school students, and STEM teachers sending a professional development for those teachers who want to teach that course. We have spent a lot of time and effort and money, and we have got that STEM program certified by New York Academy of Science, which is one of the few entities in the country which adheres to NGSS, New Generation Science and Standards, which has 26 criteria, how a STEM program curriculum should be devised and should be created and what needs to be included in it. And we have to review what we submitted to New York Academy of Science several times to adhere and comply with all the requirements of NGSS, plus other requirements that they have. We finished that program, and we have it ready for the school to use. Nice. The problem is somebody has to really bring it to their attention because we have tried since about a year and a half ago, a year ago, when the program was certified by the New York Academy of Sciences. We have reached to high school principals. We have reached to high school schools. We have tried to offer this program at a very reasonable price. But we see that the culture that we have in this country, And the principals and the teachers, they are taking the easy way. They say, oh, we are doing a STEM. Oh, we have a STEM. When you look at their curriculum, it's a Mickey Mouse project. That's easy for them. That's easy for the principals. That easy for the teacher, and they get by. But now we are paying the price.
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So here's a question for you, Dr. Kanani, and I understand, you know, what your troubles are and what you're talking about and so on, and I get that on the public side. What's your success been like on, you know, the homeschooling, Christian, Catholic school, you know, the parochial, even some of the upper-end charter schools? What's your reception been like from those folks?
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Yes, we have reached out to the church. I have not reached out to the religious school, but we have reached out also to charter schools. We have gone and gathered the charter schools in all the states, etc. And we have tried to reach out to them. And we have tried to tell them, okay, whatever you are paying for the curriculum that you buy, whatever it costs for you, we will offer a real STEM program at a lesser price than you have. We have not been successful because they are lazy. I'm sorry.
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No, you're right. Well, and part of that is, and I'm not against, you know, charter schools at all, but it's still part of the public school system. It's a charter under that. So the reality is it's not, you know, independent per se out on its own. There is a overarching public school theme there, if you would. And there's some good charter schools. Don't get me wrong, Dr. Kanani.
SPEAKER 16 :
That is correct. I totally agree with you. And I really respect and appreciate everything that they do. They're all educational people, what they do. I appreciate it, but I want them to open their eyes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Agree.
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And see what shortage we will have, and we have right now in the market.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no, you're right. It's there as we speak. And again, we could spitball and do all sorts of things back and forth on the folks to try to reach and so on. I mean, not to tell you what to do, but I still think some of your best, prospects will be those that are in the homeschool, Christian school end of things. Mainly because I think they get what you're talking about, the whole national security end of things.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, I'm afraid. Okay, I'll thank you for your advice. Okay.
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And I only say that, Dr. Kanani, because I interview enough of those people and do enough things here on a routine basis and know some of those folks that are in charge of some of those things, and they probably don't know you exist and that you can offer what you do, but trust me, they're on the same page.
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Yes, but the religious school, they spend some of their time for the religious studies. So the program that we have provided is a rigorous program for the 9th graders, 10th graders, and 11th graders. Because one of the criteria of the NGSS is that the project, the STEM course, any STEM course, needs to be a project-based course. Meaning that you need to start with the atomic periodic table. Okay, what the matter is, how it is made. and how a system is made, etc. We go there, how computers work, what is metal, insulator, semiconductor, more importantly, because all the processes and all the computers based on the semiconductor, we have to teach all of these courses in the course to end up, because our end project, in the STEM program curriculum that we have developed is a mini grid, a real mini grid solar system, photovoltaic system. Because my thesis was in that field. I did my thesis at Princeton University in photovoltaic solar energy. So I have written that based on the fact that we need to know all of that. So we have included that into the STEM program. And the school, really, they need to really believe in it in order to make time for it, make room for it, and let their students. When we give and when they take our curriculum, we train their teachers for free. And if the teacher leaves after six months, okay, we train another teacher. They can't lose. They cannot lose.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they can't lose. Absolutely.
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They pay the same money for all of the other curriculum and they have, et cetera, even more. But here they get real quality material for their students, but they really have to wake up and be a little bit, take the national interest of the students. and the country in mind in order to really come and get involved with our product.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree. And this is something where your publicist knows how to get a hold of me. I've got some suggestions on some folks that I think you could reach out to, and one of them is in charge of a complete state that I talk to on a routine basis. So I think I can maybe connect you with some folks that you might be able to get some traction with, Dr. Kanani.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm short on time, though. If you would reach back out or have them reach out back to me, you and I can converse on that, and I will get you some names of folks you can contact.
SPEAKER 16 :
I thank you for that, and I will do so.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would be happy to do that. Dr. Kanani, thank you. And he's right, folks. I mean, you listen to what he's talking about when it comes to national security and the fact that we've got a lot of folks, a lot, the majority of folks that are in that particular realm, are not U.S.-born citizens. Some are, but the majority are not. In fact, I was – funny we're talking about this. I've got a minute. I can do this. We'll combine our last break here, Charlie. I was at the airport waiting to get my bags. As I've said before, I'll talk to anybody. So there's a very large black man that's standing next to me, and we just kind of start chatting it up. And he was waiting for his bags, and I was waiting for mine. He was on a different flight. But anyways, long story short, we start talking about different things. And this particular topic, believe it or not, comes up. He's an older gentleman. He has a degree in this world that he got back in the mid-90s, but found that through the H-1B program, because they could hire those folks for a lot less money than they were paying him, he ended up having to shift gears and go do some different things because he was replaced by by somebody making a lot less money. So we had kind of this conversation around some of these things. And by the way, I didn't know Dr. Kanani was even coming on today at that point because Dr. Kanani was a fill-in today for somebody else that was supposed to be here. So long story short, everything I believe does happen for a reason. It was very interesting to be standing next to somebody talking about the very things we're talking about today, the fact that it's very real in the workplace. And I'm talking to some random guy at the airport verifying everything Dr. Kanani just said a moment ago. So point being, if you guys are listening and you've got any influence upon your local school district, your school board, your Christian school, anything along those lines, homeschool groups and so on, I can get you guys in contact with Dr. Kanani and figure out a way to where you can participate in the program that he's had or that he's got. I've interviewed him a couple of times now. So this is something that first time I interviewed him, they weren't quite finished with everything. But as you just heard a moment ago, they are finished. and they will do all of the training necessary to make this happen inside of your school. So if that's something you're interested in, please reach out, and I'll get you guys in contact with one another. And Paul Leuenberger, my good friend, he is my insurance agent. He is there to help you with your insurance as well. He's a broker now. He'll shop what's best for you. Classic cars, performance cars, home, auto, life, you name it. 303-662-0789.
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SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right. Happy Thursday, everybody. Welcome Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory joining us today. I've got Steve House with us as well. Dr. Kelly, I'll start with you. Welcome. Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 05 :
Happy New Year to you, too. And what a new year it's been. We're only nine days in and it's been quite a whirlwind. I don't know about you, but I've lost track of which plague we're on. I know we've done we've done pestilence, floods and fire. So I'm not sure what's next. But it's it's looking like it's going to be a little bit of a rocky start.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't disagree with that. Steve House, welcome as well. And yeah, I can't argue with Dr. Kelly on that one.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm waiting for Noah to show up in a robe and a ship. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good one. Good one. Yeah. And I talked about this a little bit yesterday in regards to the fires and stuff happening out in California. And I don't have anybody directly that I know that's been affected by that, but I know there's a lot that have. And, of course, here in Colorado, we've had our own issues along those lines. And, again, was any of this planned on the front side? Honestly, I have no idea. You always wonder how these things get started. What I do know, though, is the debacle in putting them out is definitely real, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, there's no question. And I am in California right now and have quite a few friends and colleagues who are being directly affected, some who have already or will likely lose their homes and everything entirely. It is beyond a debacle. We have people in charge, and we've seen this before. This is reminiscent of Lahaina and certainly Western North Carolina. We have people in charge who are either wholly incompetent or who are complicit in some pretty nefarious activities. How in the world in California do you have a mayor who's out of the country in the middle of wildfire season? There's no water in the fire hydrants. You know, they're woefully understaffed, and instead we find out that she cut millions of dollars, almost $20 million out of the budget, and deployed it instead for diversity and equality, excuse me, equity programs in the fire department. Yeah, DEI, making sure that we're hiring enough trans people in the fire department, rather than making sure that we actually can put out fires and protect homeowners when the need arises.
SPEAKER 16 :
Steve, you can add to that as well, but it really is, it's sad. There's people out there, as Dr. Kelly said a moment ago, that are directly affected by this. It affects, most of you may not understand this, but this has a direct effect upon all of us because when these sorts of things happen, insurance rates, prices, things along those lines will definitely increase. So for all of you listening, if you think for one second this doesn't affect you, Steve, it definitely will.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and I hate to be sarcastic, but I'm going to be that way anyway to illustrate a point, and that is that DEI clearly worked because now there's no selectivity. Everybody's house burned down. I mean, it's just ridiculous, the thought process. You know what? My first thought when this started happening was, what if Ron DeSantis were the governor of California? Because Ron DeSantis is an expert at dealing with mass disaster-type things, and his planning would have been better every season. They would have had a better discussion. They would have headed us off with the path. It is the difference between a liberal mentality where... You know, illegal aliens and people invested in DEI are more important than the people paying the taxes and delivering on the production of businesses and revenue. And they just don't get treated well because apparently they didn't do that, according to Obama, so they're not going to get anything back in return.
SPEAKER 16 :
Let's not forget the smelt fish are more important than all these people in their homes as well, Dr. Kelly and Steve, because the reality is a lot of that water that Steve is talking about, and this has been a conversation that's gone on now for more than a decade, the reality is because of a little minnow, we... as citizens of the United States, are going to now have the repercussions of these fires, and we do on an ongoing basis. And the reality is people in California even get hit harder because the reality, as you know, Dr. Kelly, is it'll get harder and harder and harder to find homeowners insurance.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And to Steve's point, the reality is I have an entire specialty in disaster preparedness and response. There's a tremendous body of science. We know how to do this to prepare in advance. But instead, these liberal run cities and you saw the same thing, by the way, in New Orleans in that tragic event in the early hours of New Year's. Again, they're always reactive rather than preparing ahead of time, doing the things that we know are work. that would have stopped that terrorist event from happening. Instead, they get up the next day, don't even say mea culpa. They just say, well, going forward, we're going to do this. They're always reactive. How in the world could you not have prepared better in the state of California when we know these winds occur? We know what's going to be at risk. We know the things you can do for fire mitigation, but they don't do that. Instead, they spend the money on stupid programs like making sure we're, you know, As I said, hiring trans people rather than focusing on preparing. And there's a body of science around it. There are people they can hire as consultants if they need to.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Steve, also, this whole just lack of water in California, and I know I've read both sides of the story, and the left will claim that, no, that's not really true. There is plenty of water, and it's not a matter of filling anything up or not filling anything up. We were ready. This just caught us by surprise, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And my comment back would be, Guys, come on. Time out. Caught by surprise. These things happen out there every single year, almost like clockwork. You could literally almost set your calendar to the things that are happening. I don't buy that, Steve.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, you can't in the same sentence say we were ready and we were caught by surprise. I mean, it just doesn't work, right? I mean, they know. I mean, frankly, how did insurance companies... who've canceled policies recently for fire in California. What did they know that the city of Los Angeles didn't know? Because you know what? Actuarials work on projects. They look at weather patterns. They look at dryness. They look at when somehow they knew that it was a good time to get rid of some policies because of the risk they did it. A lot of those policy owners went to the state and got insurance, which probably isn't as good. But how do you get surprised if you're ready? I don't think you do. It happens every year. It's crazy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Fully agree. All right, let's move into some of the things we were texting around. And I know we will not get to all of the things that we have been chatting about this past week. But let's at least get started. We'll get as much of this done as we possibly can. And let's start with just a simple fact. Dr. Kelly, we'll start with you. The amount of, and we've known this, we've talked about this between you and I, and for those of you listening, Dr. Kelly's been with us for five years now. Steve House was instrumental in having her on. She's got her own page on our site. Just go to RushToReason.com. You can find her there. But, Dr. Kelly, we've been talking about some of these things openly now for five years, but yet news media has been burying a lot of these things all along, and that's finally coming to light, isn't it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, there's no question. We have the receipts and it's irrefutable that the mainstream media was complicit in actively suppressing information, information on everything, John, from the ineffectiveness and the dangers of the vaccines to the fact that we had readily available, safe and effective medications to treat covid. including things like Ivermectin. They knew that the numbers of deaths from COVID were being wildly inflated. They knew that everybody wasn't at equivalent risk, and on and on and on. They lied about, you would have a much easier time coming up with a list of things that they didn't lie about, things that they didn't cover up, than things that they did. We have no integrity right now in our media. And it's largely because they're owned and controlled by big pharma and by politicians.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. Steve, and you can comment on this again. We were talking about a lot of this stuff earlier in the week, and there's a post, and we'll put this up, the link to it, in our show notes, the 10 shocking stories the media buried. And the reality is there's a lot of these things that they buried, including, and we'll get into some of this, you know, childhood deaths from the shots, and on and on we go. The reality, Steve, is, you know, we as a people... literally have been not only duped by news media, but just flat out lied to and steered in a direction that's criminal.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And, you know, I've often wondered what starts you down that path. And I'll give you a premise. I think the premise in part is we want to retain power with a socialist agenda. liberal elite. So anything that will make them look bad, we will find a way to suppress it, to tell an alternative story, to create confusion, to gaslight people. It seems like they do that over and over and over again, only when a liberal elite stumbles, Sean Coombs, Kamala Harris, different contexts, but when they stumble and they become a scenario where they're not going to be able to do what the liberal elite want or they're not going to be successful, then they dump on them. And then they say, well, we're fair and balanced because we beat up Kamala Harris after she lost the election by a big amount of margin and she couldn't talk without having a word salad. Well, that's pretty late to the game. I mean, it's just the mentality that they have that it's, They have to win at all costs because their belief about how the world should work And frankly, the idea that when you're that elite, you're more elite than God, and therefore you've got to get rid of God in the process because it's competition, that stuff is so obvious it's ridiculous. And all the things we talked about this week, I mean, the memo from 2015 outlining what would happen if you had a pandemic, and, oh, it was a coronavirus, and, oh, it did come from a lab leak. I mean, that's insane, and it's obvious what happened.
SPEAKER 16 :
And on top of that, Dr. Kelly, we've got folks like The View's Sonny Hostin comparing J6 to the Holocaust. I mean, these people will – how should I say this? They'll leave no stone unturned to make sure that their view, quote-unquote, is shoved upon the American people.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And so I think, number one, I think Steve is correct. Part of it is the totalitarian modus operandi, which is to protect their leaders at all costs. There's a reason why in the Soviet Union and North Korea and China, you get arrested and imprisoned for criticizing the leader. That is not acceptable in those societies. And they're making it that way in the United States. You will be deplatformed, censored, canceled, ridiculed, threatened if you criticize anybody in a position of authority. So there's that component. There's the component of money, pure, unadulterated greed that big pharma wants to make money, and they know they can only make money if they falsify documents, keep the safety data hidden, and control the mainstream media who might otherwise... start to promote or talk about and expose some of the dangers. So instead, they make huge investments in advertising on mainstream media. And therefore, I don't care if you're Sean Hannity or Rachel Maddow, you are not in a position to do a story or say anything negative about Merck or Pfizer because you'll get fired because your boss is saying, look, we can't afford to lose those advertising dollars. So shut up.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
We need the revenue.
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This is Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House with us today. Dr. Kelly, you wanted to make a comment on what Sonny had to say about J6 being equal to the Holocaust, which again, all I can do is shake my head.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, and it wasn't that comment in and of itself. It was that this has become routine for the left to make this hyperbolic, you know, false comparisons. And the reason it's so insidious John, is because it undermines people's willingness to speak the truth. If you watch what has gone on, for example, in the UK right now with the rape and assault of all of these young girls by Pakistani and Muslim men, when you ask why it went on for years and years and people wouldn't speak out, it's because they were afraid. The media and the police were afraid of being called racist. Right now, people's worst fear is being called a Nazi, being called a racist, being called a homophobe. People are so hellbent on making sure that they remain politically correct because they know what it will do to their lives, to their careers, if they are tarred and feathered as a racist or a homophobe or a Nazi. And so all Sonny House or somebody else from The View has to say is, this is like the Holocaust, right? Or this is like, you know, whatever. And people run for the hills. They won't push back. So much so that an entire country suppressed the well-known fact that young girls were being kidnapped and raped and assaulted and sold into prostitution. And they kept it quiet for fear of being called a racist. Think where we have gone as a society when that is the case.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Steve, I'll let you have the final word on that one.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I mean, if you think about what's happening, it's I mean, it's not I mean, Sonny's husband, by the way, I don't know if you saw that story that he's now being sued for insurance fraud and what he did. No, I didn't see that horrible, horrible as a surgeon. He he was effectively taking people who had workers comp insurance. They're required in his state to pay. And what he would do is if somebody had a bruised thigh, he would do an arthroscopic surgery on their knee, bill for the knee, sue if they didn't get paid from the insurance company for the knee. They had to pay him because of the state law, and they were making a boatload of extra money. So he is probably going to go to jail, and maybe Sonny will shut up for a while. But going back to the other thing, what Kelly was describing in my mind is – Across the board, if you think about all those labels and titles, what it's led to is we have lowered our standards dramatically. Our standards for education, for proper behavior, for who goes into what bathroom. The lowering of standards is going to have an impact on America that's going to be felt for many generations. We just haven't gotten completely there yet.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I talked about that yesterday. I was on vacation for a little while, came back, and I always give kind of a recap of what I notice and observe on vacation. And guys, you guys travel like me, and I don't think it's just me. People are getting more rude all the time. They're not taught basic manners any longer. And that in and of itself is becoming an epidemic. And Dr. Kelly, I see it almost daily. It's like, do you not know how to say excuse me?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, truly, we are becoming closer and closer to a third world country where it's just chaos all the time. People don't follow the rules, the common decencies, the customs that we used to think of as the norm here, dressing appropriately to go to the grocery store. You mean not wearing jammies to the grocery store, Dr. Kelly? Yes. Exactly. Or on an airplane. Thank you. I fly every week. The number of people who get on an airplane, I think, did you not have time to actually get dressed? Yep. What are you thinking? I say the same thing. We are really, really, it has degraded our entire culture. And I hate to say it because I am not anti-immigration, but we are bringing in people from other parts of the world who are not interested in becoming American. They're not interested in adopting our culture. Instead, they are demanding that we abdicate to their cultures. So when you see people getting on airplanes, I see them all the time barefoot or on the train barefoot. They may do that in their country. That's not what we know here in the United States. And we need to expect and demand better.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. Steve, that goes along the lines of what you were just saying a moment ago. And I personally have seen it get worse through COVID, but it hasn't changed. In fact, I saw it get worse through COVID. And it's all it's done, Steve, to Kelly's point a moment ago, is gone downhill since.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know people just assumed that it was okay. I mean, you know, Zoom calls, not going to the office. I mean, not going to the office by itself has changed our dress code substantially just because people don't feel like they have to anymore. They don't have to present themselves in that way. And then when you have all these cultural things that prevent people who are underperforming from getting fired or, you know, not getting the promotion they want. I mean, so many aspects of culture. Everybody gets a trophy in Little League Baseball. There has to be a culture of success for society to be successful. And we are not there anymore. We've lost that.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, let's move along. One of the things I did want to talk about, because this was sent to me by a few listeners this week that noticed the same thing, and that is this burying of Moderna's findings on a preschool-aged child that died, quote-unquote, in their trial. I mean, Dr. Kelly, what gives them the right to feel like that's okay?
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, this has been going on. That's one of hundreds of examples where information, where data was either falsified or deep-sixed. Yes, it's horrific. Absolutely, Moderna knew that one of the kids died in the very, very limited trial that they did. and they simply made it unavailable to the public. Remember, were it not for the FOIA demands, these pharmaceutical companies would have kept the data and all of this information suppressed for 75 years. We know from Pfizer's own pre-distribution study, they knew from the very beginning, before the first shot went into somebody's arm, they knew that... It did not stay in the deltoid muscle. They knew that the mRNA went to every single organ system. Within a matter of hours, they knew that. Yet they kept that suppressed and they lied. So that's what I'm saying. These were not mistakes my government made. This was not, oh, we didn't know. It was all novel. We were caught up in the fear and panic. And who could have known they did the best they could? No, they didn't. They lied. They falsified data. They suppressed documents. They provided fraudulent data to the FDA and the FDA was complicit in it. So this is truly we have got to hold people accountable or I promise this will happen again.
SPEAKER 16 :
Steve, after January 20th, when Trump gets inaugurated, we have some changes with staffing positions and so on. RFK Jr. and the like. Do you see any of this? Dr. Kelly was just talking about. Do you see any accountability coming out of that at that point?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, that's a hard one, John. I mean, I think, you know, not only do we have a kid died, you know, and Moderna did what they did, but there's a lot of different drugs that fall into this category. The question I would be asking is, okay, guys, look, you tried mRNA technology before. And what happened when you tried it? Well, you know, spike proteins became a problem. People had myocarditis. I mean, they had some of the symptoms that we've seen so dramatically change things. I mean, 900% increase in heart attacks in certain categories, things like that. Well, when you try a drug on a framework that you already know has a problem, why wasn't the study and or everything we did in the early days of vaccinating people, why weren't they looking really closely for this? I mean, it's like knowing, you know, hey, John, I got a car, the front wheel falls off every three miles. Well, guess what? You're driving alongside me watching the damn front wheel because you know it's got a problem. Why would you not study, look for, and be hypervigilant about the things you knew that the mRNA framework had? problems with, and we didn't. We suppressed it and hid it, and that's another part of what the government says.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and using your example, and I think I'm going to say this correctly, because if I were being paid billions of dollars by the government, whether that was nefariously or otherwise, but at the end of the day, if I'm getting paid billions of dollars to ignore that, Steve, and just keep moving right along and never even bother to figure out how to fix it, there's your answer. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh yeah, think about this. This is, as we talked about this week, this is the greatest business model of all time for making money. You have a virus created by you, distributed to the population. You know, you have a patent and you have the keys to a vaccine that theoretically is a vaccine because it's not and you have the keys to something that might work and the government will do, then you get 100% liability protection because you release it under emergency use order. And oh, by the way, the government buys it for everybody. and that's billions and globally billions of dollars how do you have a better business model with no liability automatically your products being purchased it's being purchased at a high price and it's being utilized by eight billion people in theory worldwide and yet dr kelly we've
SPEAKER 16 :
We've got several different governors, states, and so on that will talk about how they need laws for price control and price gouging and this, that, and the other. All the while, what Steve just said is 100% accurate. It's almost like, wait a minute, people. You guys bought into all of that nonsense, and yet you still want to go down these other paths. Why not go back and fix that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Let's add another layer to what Steve just said. Then you have the people who are actually in the position to make the recommendations that do form a mandate. People at the FDA and the CDC who own parts of the patents in these drugs. So every single shot that gets sold, they make money. OK, so you've got people talk about a conflict of interest. You have people, the FDA and the CDC, who are in a position to make money on every shot that's given. And they are the same people who just get to recommend and decide whether this shot should be on the childhood schedule. I mean, talk about feathering your own nest. This is a conflict of interest on steroids. It is absolutely an unbelievable business model, and they don't want to see it go away, which is, by the way, one of the reasons that their hair is on fire in Washington and other places, because of the idea that Bobby Kennedy Jr. may in fact end up getting confirmed to head up HHS, because he will expose these sorts of conflicts of interest and this unethical and fraudulent behavior.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, and that was going to be my next question. By the way. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
John, there's one other piece that I thought Kelly was going to mention, too, which is not only did you get the vaccine, you got a global need for it, you set the price, yada, yada, yada. But then you make some alternative drugs like Paxlovid and Remdesivir, which are there to treat the symptoms of the virus you made and hospitals. when they use those drugs, charge unbelievably high rates for those drugs, and they make money. And, of course, you have the $39,000 fee for someone who dies of COVID. I mean, where could you have drawn this up any better to make hundreds of billions of dollars and get away with it?
SPEAKER 16 :
That was going to be my next question to you, Dr. Kelly, is, yeah, what other type of a business model out there would allow you to do the things Steve has mentioned?
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely none. So you cannot think for a minute that this was all just coincidence. This is coordinated, absolutely coordinated. And it is beyond evil because the hospitals made money. Doctors made money. People in government agencies made money. God knows the pharmaceutical companies made money. People were making money hand over fist. on the pain, suffering, death, and disease of the American people. So in addition to destroying the economy, destroying the education, destroying the futures of an entire generation of kids, they resulted in the deaths, the unnecessary deaths. We had drugs to treat these things, to treat COVID, in those few people who got significantly ill from it. But instead, as Steve said, they used drugs like Paxlovid and Remdesivir that actually hastened the death of people, put them on ventilators because the hospital got an extra $39,000 per person who they could claim died of COVID. It was one big racket. And they're teeing up. Look, they're teeing up to do it again with with the bird flu. We're already seeing them. You know, they're modifying it in the lab. They're doing gain of function research. They're trying to make it more transmissible human to human, which is something it would not do if left to its own. It's really only ever been a risk to people who are in direct contact with. with infected animals, but they are trying their best to see if they can come up with a way to create yet another pandemic.
SPEAKER 16 :
So here's a question for you, Dr. Kelly, and I'll let you talk on this as well, Steve. When is the next one, and will people be gullible enough to follow through a second time?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think, as I said, they're teeing up for bird flu. So far, in this great state of California, Gavin Newsom now is a couple weeks into the, quote, proactive state of emergency. I don't even know what that is, and I am a disaster and emergency specialist. How you proactively declare a state of emergency when there hasn't been a single human-to-human case of bird flu in the entire state. Not one. Not one. bird flu in the state of Louisiana, we don't even know if that person died of the bird flu. There's been a paucity of information released about that person other than we know it was a male, he was elderly, had other medical problems, and did test positive for bird flu. But we have no idea if that's actually what he died from. For all I know, he had heart disease or cancer. Yet they are using this to foment fear. And good news, though, people, they've got a vaccine at the ready. They've got another mRNA vaccine ready to roll out for bird flu. So that's, you know, yes, they they are going to create as much chaos and panic as they can. They're already doing it. These fires didn't help much. But between, you know, now and the inauguration and then, unfortunately, they're using the bird flu as a reason to call to kill off hundreds of thousands of poultry birds as well as cattle. And that will have the. absolutely predictable effect of driving up poultry, beef, and egg and dairy prices so that they can claim in March and April when prices are through the roof that it's because Donald Trump is a failure.
SPEAKER 16 :
And again, I said this yesterday, all the while being the party that is supposedly for the little guy, which, Dr. Kelly, nothing could be farther from the truth.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. Exactly. Oh, they don't care at all about the middle man. No. The middle America. No. Not a bit.
SPEAKER 16 :
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And we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House with us. Okay, before we move along to anything else, Dr. Kelly, the other thing, and Charlie actually mentioned this through the break there, the first break we had, wanted to know what is the deal with HMPV, the quote-unquote common virus spreading in China? Is there anything to that, or is that something that's been around a while?
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Yes, a human metapneumovirus. Again, it's the same class or family of viruses. that RSV, respiratory syncytial virus, is in. It's known to cause mild upper respiratory symptoms, usually runny nose and nasal congestion in most people. Like every other respiratory virus out there, including rhinoviruses and certainly influenza, In some people, in an elderly person or somebody with a compromised immune system or a very young baby, it could cause more severe illness. But it's very, very rare, very uncommon. And furthermore, it's easily treatable by all of the common antivirals that we have. So once again, this is fear porn. Human metapneumovirus is nothing to be concerned about, assuming that they don't start manipulating it in a lab to make it more virulent.
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Steve, you sent something that I really wanted to dive into, so we've got enough time, I think, before we close out here. We've got about 10 or 12 minutes to do this. And that is the report that came out in the U.K. talking about all of the heart damage in vaxxed young people. Now, again, we've talked about this. You know, you, I, and Dr. Kelly have talked about this now for multiple years. But now, not that we were ever wrong and never thought we were, we were right all along. And now there are studies proving what we've been saying all along.
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There absolutely are. I mean, there's studies on that. There's studies on, you know, the potential problem with vaccines and autism. They're all sitting out there. You want to know what the next pandemic is? You know, first of all, decide what a pandemic is. How many people have to die for it to be a pandemic? And let's just say that number is, you know, 100, 200,000, 300,000 people in a year that die that shouldn't have died from something. Cancer is the next pandemic from the vaccine itself. I mean, there is all kinds of potential problems and injuries. I mean, Albert Dowd said that there was 14 million deaths from the vaccine, 65 million injuries globally, serious injuries globally from the vaccine. He's a statistician, et cetera. Peter Hotez's response, if I get this right, I'm sure I'm close on this is, well, the reality of it is the vaccine saved 17 million lives. Well, okay, it saved 17 million people in theory from a sicker version or being hospitalized or even death. And it killed 14 million. So that somehow justifies giving the vaccine. I mean, quite frankly, if you did save 17 million, I know that Dr. Victory knows this. that there's a risk profile at play here. The 14 million people that died from the vaccine, most of them never should have had it and wouldn't have died from COVID either.
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Dr. Kelly, really quick, because I want you to add to what Steve just said, but I want to throw something else out to you because this is just my own personal observations. I want to get you guys' opinions on this as well. And I'm not a doctor. I am not you, Dr. Kelly. But, you know, I know data and I observe it and I watch and pay attention and so on. And again, I'm not I'm not you. I'm not a doctor, Dr. Kelly. But it sure seems to me that people that were vaccinated and even have had multiple boosters are the sickest among us. Am I wrong?
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No, there's there's absolutely no question that you're not wrong. And we know that the more heavily vaccinated you are for covid. the more likely you are to contract covet okay and they are exactly the people who are multiply boosted are the people who keep getting it over and over and over again as well as other things they're getting influenza they're getting rsv they're getting all sorts of other uh unidentified colds and upper respiratory symptoms and they've done some significant damage to their immune systems but the point that you know steve is making is the one that i come back to over and over Everything in medicine boils down to a risk-benefit calculation. The people who were forced to get these vaccines, the COVID vaccines, to stay at work, to stay in the military, to continue their education, to play college sports, whatever it was, that group of people was never at risk from COVID itself. So they took all risk, no benefit. If they'd gotten COVID, which 99.9% of them did, they sailed right through it. They got the common cold and they got better. So it was all risk. The people who you could have perhaps in a long shot made an argument that it made sense to vaccinate would have been the very elderly who are already in... assisted living homes or in group settings where you're saying, yes, there's a risk they'll have a bad reaction to this vaccine, but their risk if they get COVID itself could be very, very bad. So we're going to go ahead and take that risk. But the people who sustained cardiac damage and autoimmune illnesses and now have turbo cancers are all people who were vaccinated who never had a risk from COVID itself. And now they're going to die Instead, from their turbo cancer, their myocarditis, their overwhelming autoimmune issues, and that is a travesty. It's wrong. And somebody has got to start openly acknowledging this. When I say somebody, I don't mean the three of us. and people like Ed Dowd, who I know well, and we talk about this all the time, but it's the mainstream media and people in a position of power and authority, which includes President Trump when he comes in. He has got to get his arms around the idea that his program, Operation Warp Speed, was perhaps a good idea. He thought he was misled, he was misguided, he got poor advice, and he's got to get his arms around that.
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I agree. And I agree with everything you just said, Dr. Kelly, because we know it was poor advice. I get it. Steve, he was doing some of those things to try to get the economy back on track. And that's really what he was looking at. He knew long term it wouldn't be good for us as a country to continue down that particular path. So I think in his eyes, he was looking at, OK, what are we going to do to get confidence back up? in people, and to Dr. Kelly's point, had he had the right advice around him, had we ran national PSA campaigns, had we allowed people to have ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and things along those lines, Steve, we would have had a much different outcome, but he was very misled.
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Yeah, I mean, I would add to that if he just had the truth. I mean, if he had the truth that it was a lab leak virus that was created, that mRNA was probably a risk, that, you know, Moderna had killed a child, that there was all these... If he had all of that stuff, he might have said, look, I'm balancing people's financial lives... They're absolutely what's going on with them and their stress level. I'm balancing that with the major risk of this vaccine. And he could have brought in a half a dozen other people, including Kelly Victor. He would have said it ain't worth the risk. It just isn't. You know, masks don't work. Social distancing doesn't work. It isn't worth the risk. Let's try ivermectin. He was not getting the truth. And that's really what caused the problem.
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And for all of you naysayers out there that would disagree with that, there is proof now that he was not getting the truth. He was literally being lied to by the likes of Fauci and Birx and probably multitudes of others, Dr. Kelly, in his inner circle. The reality is these people literally lied and misled the president of the United States. to then, in my opinion, wreak havoc upon the American public.
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Yeah, and they've as much as admitted it, John, and in not so many words. I mean, you have Deborah Birx, the scarf lady, who came right out and acknowledges in her book, look, we made up the two weeks. We knew that if we told President Trump the truth, that we intended to shut down the government and shut down schools for a prolonged period, that he would never go for it because he's a businessman and he would have understood the chilling effect it would have on the economy. So we didn't tell him the truth. We told him two weeks. The same people she also acknowledged, they made up the six foot social distancing rule, which I said from the beginning it's made up. But she acknowledges that in her book. They are now on paper having said that, no, these things were not truthful. We did it in order to control people. We did it in order to come up with something that people would believe and pay heed to. We have Leanna Wen, the Chinese woman who's still out there on CNN. saying we needed to make life difficult for people who didn't want to take the vaccine to motivate them to take the vaccine. You have Anthony Fauci acknowledging that he knew from the beginning that masks would not do anything appreciable to stop the spread of that virus. So they not only lied, gave poor advice, misguided. And, you know, we're we're fraudulent in the reporting of the data to President Trump. But they now have the audacity to come out and admit it, knowing that they fundamentally are thumbing their noses at the American people.
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Steve, do you know of any other industry you and I as business men and owners and so on? Dr. Kelly is a doctor. Do you know of any other industry that could get by with what Dr. Kelly just said?
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Absolutely not, because product liability, services liability, I mean, all of that. I mean, any other industry, I mean, if you were Pfizer and you were not protected by EUA status and no liability, you'd probably face enough lawsuits now you'd have to file Chapter 11. I mean, as much money as they make. I mean, I was talking about GAVA patent in one of the emails, too. I mean, Merck ended up paying, I don't know, I think it was the number was somewhere in the $100 million range for the fact that They oversold and faked the data and threw away the placebo data on that drug. It was still used today. It was a blip. I mean, $100 million didn't mean anything to them. Pay the fine, keep advertising the drug, keep doing the reprints out of New England Journal, and keep selling the product because it didn't matter to them. Unless you get the liability right on these companies like Moderna and AstraZeneca and and Pfizer, they will never suffer from this. They will never be held accountable for this.
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Yeah, Dr. Kelly, I read an article yesterday where there's people out there calling for Donald Trump when he comes into office to really get a handle on the opioid crisis that we have in America. Not that something shouldn't be done along those lines and so on. I'm not trying to downplay that. But isn't what you and I and Steve right now and what we're talking about a far bigger issue than even that particular topic and what's going on with painkillers?
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I think it's a much bigger issue because the reality with opioids is that you will not have an opioid overdose if you don't either buy drugs illegally in the back alley or off the black market. And if you take the medications that are prescribed for you as prescribed. OK, it isn't. There's really is a very simple way to end the crisis, which is to hold people accountable. You are responsible for for whether or not you buy a drug or take a pill from your from your friend. You don't know where it came from or what it is. Okay, that's very different from putting out on the market a drug that people are being mandated to take in order to keep their dang jobs. In order to feed their children. So in order to put food on the table for your kids, you must take this experimental shot that is neither safe nor effective. Those are totally, you know, that's apples and oranges. They are totally different things. Do I want to stop the flow of fentanyl? and other drugs across our border? Sure I do, because I want to stop illegal immigration. But the reality is, it is nowhere near the problem than having a government that has mandated or has told people that a drug is safe and effective and that they are being compelled to take it for fear of reprisal, and it turns out that it actually can kill you.
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Steve, I've got one minute left is all because I'll get you guys out on time, and I've got some spots to run here before I finish out the hour. Your predictions, and I can't hold you to anything, but your predictions on how much worse some of the things that we've talked about in regards to, you know, turbo cancers and the like. What are your thoughts moving forward? How much worse is it going to get?
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I think it's going to be two or three times at a minimum worse than it is. I mean, there are times when I think we know about 5% of what the reality is. We don't know what people are doing in villages in China or small towns in America, per se. I mean, this could be a catastrophic event. population reduction, a long-term, multi-generational problem.
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Okay. I'll leave it at that. Guys, we'll kick it up again next week. Always a joy. The time goes by fast. Dr. Kelly, I'll let you go first. Thank you again, always.
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Thank you. See you next week.
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All right. I'll see you next week. Happy New Year. Steve, you as well. Thank you, man, as always. You're it, and I appreciate all you do. Always a pleasure. You're it, and we're just glad to be part of it. Well, thank you very much. All right, let's do this. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. If you want to save on windows and doors for your home, as we probably at this point now head through spring, because if you get with Dave and you get things ordered, that's about when things will get done, give him a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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