
Join the hosts as they reflect on the challenges and victories within today’s political landscape. They discuss Curtis Sliwa's mayoral race insights, while honoring the contributions of the late Charlie Kirk. Additionally, they venture into the nuances of political relationships, personified by Christiane Amanpour’s public apology, evoking discussions on grace and redemption in political discourse.
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From director Sean McNamara comes Soul on Fire, based on a true story. They said you had no chance, but here you are. Starring Joel Courtney, John Corbett, Stephanie Shostak, Macy McLean, with Devon Franklin and William H. Macy.
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If you focus exactly on loving the life that you're living right now, and not the life that you think you could have had or should have had, that's the whole deal right there.
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Soul on Fire. Rated PG. Parental guidance suggested. Now playing. For tickets, go to soulonfiremovie.com. Soul!
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And I believe it could be something good has begun. These strings sounding loud.
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1971, the great Cat Stevens, Peace Train. I was looking for peace-themed musical library selections because peace is breaking out all over. My buddy Mike Gallagher is here. I need to know how your show, I heard some of your show, not all. How was your show yesterday? How was your day yesterday? Did you have the same kind of experience I did, just sort of pausing and just letting it wash over me, just the enormity of it all?
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The enormity is the right word to use. I had a dream last night, and I'll go with me for a moment because it was based on the show yesterday. I know why I had this dream. You know how sometimes you have a dream and you wake up and you remember it vividly? Yep. You know, some dreams you kind of forget about and they just sort of fade away. And I don't know about you, I dream a lot. I don't know why. The last few years, I think it's my supplements. Maybe it's my relief factor, Texas superfood regimen. I don't know. But I dream. And they're not bad dreams. They're just kind of vivid. So last night I had a dream. I was doing a remote at a radio station in, like, Idaho. Mm-hmm. And a lady burst into the studio and she hated me. She was real annoyed at me. And we knew there were 50 people out in the lobby who were there to see me, to see the show. And she said how much she hated the Mike Gallagher show. And I said, yeah, but there's 50 people out in the lobby. And she said, yeah, but they don't like you either. And I said, well, let me just go prove it to you. So I took her into the lobby, and there were 50 people waiting there. I said, hi, everybody. How many of you like me? And nobody responded. They all gave me a thumbs down. Some of them gave me a middle finger, and they booed. Now, here's why I had that dream. Yes. We all have an innate desire to be liked or loved, right? And certainly those of us with big mouth talk show host platforms. We like to win the approval of people, yes. Yeah, we don't want people to disapprove. I mean, you're not always going to agree with us, but instinctively we want you to like us. And we care about whether you like us or not. Now, that's a problem. That's an Achilles heel, because you know who doesn't care? That guy, Donald Trump, he doesn't care anymore, Mark. He doesn't care what politically correct scolds are going to say to him anymore. He's not going to be lectured about how it's supposed to be done. I think he tried that first term. I think he said, look, this is conventional wisdom. These are the kind of people I'm supposed to have. I'm supposed to have a General Kelly in the Oval Office with me. who stabbed him in the back within five minutes of leaving the White House.
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John Bolton.
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John Bolton. Scalawags, yes. Scalawag after scalawag. Now he's got the Marco Rubios, the Pete Hegseths, the Christy Gnomes, the Pambandis, who are loyal to him, and he's going to go with his gut. He defies conventional. He said, look, we've got to blow up the Iranian nuke facilities in order to make an Israel peace deal done. We're going to do it. Go send in the nukes. He is brilliant that way. He doesn't care. He gives two blanks about what anybody in the world thinks about why. And he doesn't care about the criticism, Mark. No, no. Let me finish this real quick. And then I'm going to poke holes in it. Go ahead. Yeah, you could, but I think here's the dichotomy. He's perceived as a guy very much enamored with being loved by the New York Times.
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All about his ego, absolutely.
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I must be adored, exactly. I've got to be adored. I think that's complete rubbish. He does not care about what the New York Times thinks. He cares about America. He puts America first, and damn the torpedoes full speed ahead. That's what he is all about. Folks have holes in that. Prove me wrong.
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Here's the only thing, and this is so funny because, of course, it's going to be about you and me. Because the setup, and it was artful, it was beautiful. The dream, I love the dream story. And you're totally right. We all have that thing about, you know, we want to be, well, what we want is to be listened to. We want to draw an audience, whether they agree with us or not. We just want to have a product that attracts ears, that attracts business, et cetera, et cetera. When you describe Trump as just plowing forward with what he truly believes, let people like me or not, I don't care. That's totally you. It's totally me. We don't want people to call us and say we hate you. But if people disagree with us, if people don't think you're right about borders, if people don't think you're right about gender, if people don't think you're right about the Middle East... Don't lie awake at night worrying about that. You go, well, hey, I'm fighting for some things here. I'm standing for some things here. Take it or leave it. Because you absolutely have that same resilience. And I don't think for one minute that you worry in taking the bold stands that you take, whether somebody will like you or not. I don't think you worry about that at all.
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It's a little bit like the conversion I had and the way you helped me with the Curtis Lewa mayoral race. Oh, yeah.
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You had him on yesterday, right? Finish your point and then tell me how that went.
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You just have to do the right thing. You can't say, well, yes, I'm a conservative Republican. And yes, Andrew Cuomo is a disgrace and a scoundrel. Yes, his actions led to thousands of nursing home deaths. Yes, he's corrupt. Yes, he. But you know what? We got to support him because pragmatically, that's the better option. No, no, no. Less are too evil. Lesser of Tooey Bologna. Maybe the voters of New York are getting – look, this – and Curtis yesterday was as good as I've ever seen him. Tell me. Well, we did 10 minutes of policy. He talked about the economics of New York. He talked about the disastrous communism-socialism threat of Mamdani. He gave – we started out the interview with his proper respect and props to Donald Trump. and to this Israel and what it means for New York. I mean, look, this guy is a New Yorker through and through. And he knows the heartbeat of the city as well as anybody you'll ever meet in the world. He knows what it takes to fight crime. He knows all of it. It was just a great – if you missed it, mikeonline.com or check out the Mike Gallagher Show podcast because Curtis – and he's gaining. I mean, will it be enough? No. Only the Lord knows. I know that we found out that Mamdani's wife has publicly expressed grief for the death of a Palestinian radical who cheered on the October 7th terror attack. That's Mamdani's wife. I mean, you know, like husband, like wife.
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I mean, I mean, I teach you generally, whether it's fathers and sons or husbands and wives. I don't attach every family member to a person.
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I want to see Lisa cheer on October 7th. That won't be happening.
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Out in these parts, some folks call it radio. We call it the last campfire of the American spirit. Stoke the fire of freedom with American Ground Radio with Louis R. Avalone and Stephen Parr. American Ground Radio, planting seeds, growing freedom. Listen wherever you get your podcasts and visit our website at AmericanGroundRadio.com.
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The observation I would make would be about your own bride and the evidence that you guys didn't agree about a lot of things. Now, obviously, those were policy issues, et cetera, et cetera, with your lovely and beautiful and cherished Denise.
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My Denise and I argued, but we agreed on core fundamental things, faith, family, values, sovereignty. There were things that, you know, she was just a little astray, but I tried to bring her back.
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Speaking of agreeing on the basics, I offered up and I offer to you use it anytime you want, because this we may have reached that moment. Golda Meir, former prime minister of Israel, famously said there will not be peace in the Middle East until the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Jews. On the text line, somebody shared with me incredible wisdom about domestic politics. Democrats will cannot be counted on to really, truly love America and be part of a constructive path forward until they love the country more than they hate Trump. Kind of a parallel.
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It sure is. It's a perfect parallel. Speaking of the ceasefire, did you read about one of the View co-hosts, Alyssa Farah Griffin?
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Right, who sort of has some tangential Republican roots, right?
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Well, kind of, but not really. About as much as Joe Scarborough does. Exactly. But Alyssa, back in December, Alyssa Farrah Griffin promised on air, I quote, if he gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I will wear a MAGA hat for one day on the show and say thank you for doing it.
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Lordy, I hope there's tape.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, oh, there is. There's all kinds of tapes. You better believe it. But if you make a promise like that, you really have to fulfill it, don't you?
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A, of course you do. And B, even though she'll hate it with her every fiber, if you kind of have some fun with it and say, hey, I said it, so here we go, and then catch all kinds of grief from 90-year-old Joy Behar and And whoopee, Bay here. And whoopee. I think there's a way for her to turn that into a positive if she actually does it. So is there any expectation that she will?
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She was on the show yesterday. Guess who didn't wear it? She did not put on a MAGA hat.
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I don't even know if it came up. Okay, I was going to say, well, it needs to.
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I don't know how they do that. Do they do that show live or do they tape it? I don't know. Do they come out like bats out of the cave in the middle of the night and tape it in the middle of the night?
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Their echolocation leads them to their chairs on the panel.
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Do the crows come out of there? They hang upside down. They come up, they unleash their claws, and they swoop in. Let's do the view!
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We could get in a lot of trouble on that one. Okay, so we wish them all well. And I think some grace is in order. Did you see the apology from Christiane Amapour?
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I did not. I remember her original offense. What was her sin, and then what is the redemption?
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I don't even mean to laugh because it's so dark.
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This, of course, is CNN's legendary long-standing foreign correspondent. Did a lot of great work in the actual Middle East over the years. She's been a fine reporter at times in commentary. She's a crazed leftist, and so here we go.
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So what did she do to help him? Mark, she's CNN's chief international anchor. Well, of course. She's not the co-chief. She's not an assistant chief. She's the chief. She's like Pocahontas. She's the chief. She's the Indian chief. So Christiane Amanpour went on TV. I can't even believe I'm reading this story. She said that she was joyful about the hostages and all that, but she said that the Israeli hostages were treated better than the victims of the Gaza attacks. Yes. Well, which of course is so, when you think, I mean, look, they murdered all the women because of what they did to them. I guarantee you, they didn't, they killed all the female hostages because they brutalized them so badly, they didn't dare let the world know, let them go free to tell them, tell the world what they did to them. Anyway, so now she has publicly apologized for her insensitive remarks. Good. And she did. And it was actually kind of a heartfelt apology. But you know what a lot of people on our side did? They rejected it outright. They said, you were made to say it. You read a teleprompter. The apology was forced. I'm funny about this. And maybe it's because of what kind of the stuff that I've been through in my career. Sometimes you apologize because it's the right thing to do. And just give some people some grace. I just am tending to give her grace on that and say, all right, let's move on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Give people benefit of the doubt until you know that you don't need to give them benefit of the doubt. Opt for grace as option one. If a day, a week, a month from now she commits another rhetorical, not even a gaffe, it was totally on purpose, commits another rhetorical sin, that dismissive and that stupid and that cruel, then you'll know the apology was phony. But for now, of course I would accept the apology.
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And finally, on a kind of a somber note, today, October 14th, 2025, would have been Charlie Kirk's 32nd birthday. President Trump rushed back from the Middle East, and he is going to posthumously award Charlie the Presidential Medal of Freedom today at 4 p.m. I'm sure we'll carry it live. We'll have it on Salem News Channel. God bless our friend. God bless Erica and those babies. God bless the legacy that he left behind. It still hurts. It still stings. I saw a montage.
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It still energizes, but it still energizes. It does. Charlie lives in the minds and hearts of those who remember him and across college campuses where he touched so many lives and so many minds and hearts. Go ahead. Sorry, I didn't mean that.
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The Senate has unanimously approved a resolution. October 14th, henceforth, is the National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did you just say unanimously?
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unanimously approved by the U.S. Senate.
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Charlie Schumer and Elizabeth Warren.
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I'm reading here at Newsmax in September.
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Adam Schiff signed on to that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Apparently so. In September, the Senate unanimously approved a resolution marking the day as the National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk. Look, there's some healing going on. There's a whole bunch of Democrats that lined up yesterday to praise President Trump. There's something weird is happening.
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Final 10 seconds, and what happens this Saturday, Mike? The No Kings protest.
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He's an authoritarian monster. Oh, my gosh, the timing. I got my pots and pans out. I got my Birkenstocks. I got my, he's a tyrant. Trump's a dictator.
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If you want to prep, you want to prep for this. Get your Birkenstocks. Get your pan. Get a big wooden spoon. And leading up, we've got three, four days of lead time. Don't bathe.
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Then you're good to go. Yeah, don't bathe and just look constipated on your face. Make sure you look like you haven't gone to the bathroom in a week. You're ready for the No Kings protest. You'll be a perfect No Kings protester. God bless them all. I love you, man. I love you, too. Happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday. Mike Gallagher, ready to rock. 10 o'clock soon as we're done on 660 AM The Answer.

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From director Sean McNamara comes Soul on Fire, based on a true story. They said you had no chance, but here you are. Starring Joel Courtney, John Corbett, Stephanie Shostak, Macy McLean, with Devon Franklin and William H. Macy.
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If you focus exactly on loving the life that you're living right now, and not the life that you think you could have had or should have had, that's the whole deal right there.
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Soul on Fire. Rated PG. Parental guidance suggested. Now playing. For tickets, go to soulonfiremovie.com.
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Soul!
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From me and Julio at the schoolyard to me and Mike on the radio, Paul Simon is 84 today. Like the library there individually and with Art Garfunkel. And what a day on which we gather. Mike, I am gathering you got that American-Israeli join flag pin on your lapel this morning. Wear it every day. We've worn it for two years. Has it ever been more meaningful than today? It's just, I am, it's not good to be speechless in our, so just take it, just take it. Just, what a time to be alive. What a remarkable, remarkable moment.
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And I keep thinking about the blessing of being there in a week after next. We're going to be in Jerusalem. We're going to tour the Knesset. I'm going to get access to a number of special guests. It's going to be a very important, meaningful visit. I've been just... yearning to go back. I've wanted to go back for so long. We were so close a couple of times, and the trip fell, you know, trips always fall apart because of the war. Now the war is over. Now, look, nothing about this is going to be simple. Already there's breaking news that Hamas is being accused of already breaking the deal by not returning all of the bodies. Now the live hostages have been returned. All men, incidentally. They killed all the women. And, of course, a lot of analysts and experts believe that they killed the women because they didn't want the women to be able to share with the world what was done to them. These are monsters. These aren't humans. These are people below humanity. And I just wonder if, indeed, Hamas futzes around with this peace deal. They're going to find out. They're going to find out. What leverage do they have now? I mean, think about that in simplistic terms, which is great. I mean, I don't want to give them the advantage. 2,000 terrorists have been released as part of this deal back into Gaza. I saw images on social media this weekend. Hamas is already rounding up dissidents and executing them in the streets of Gaza. So, all right, so now we've got the hostages back. They've agreed to the terms Hamas has. If they don't agree to the terms... obliterate them. What stops? I mean, you're going to have more, unfortunately, men, women, and children killed because that's what Hamas does. They use civilians as shields. But I'm sorry, what other recourse is the world going to have?
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None. And this is the phrase. And it won't be a surprise either, because both Trump and Netanyahu have said Trump has looked at Netanyahu and said, look, we have the skeleton of the framework of a peace deal here. This is either going to work or it's not. And if it doesn't, then you've got to hit the words you use. Finish the job. And it is the strength and decisiveness that Netanyahu has brought to the battlefield. that has awakened everybody, opened their eyes and said, this is what strength, righteous strength, this is what it does, whether it's America displaying it, Israel displaying it, is it makes evil people go, dang, maybe we better think twice about what we're doing. And that's how we got to this actual deal, because every single attempt to deal with Hamas in the past has involved the gradual change. trickle of hostages. These, the living ones, were released in one shot this morning while we all slept in America. The other thing is a complete, complete withdrawal of the IDF, the Israeli Defense Forces, from Gaza territory is Israel is still in half of Gaza this morning as we speak. And they ain't going anywhere just yet. All in anticipation of a multinational, and yes, we're part of it, not so much with combat boots on the ground, but supervisory eyes on the ground and in the sky. And various other nations, many of them Muslim nations, participating to make sure this peace holds.
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So for a year we've been told by the woke left that he's the new Hitler. Today's front page of the Jerusalem Post has a giant photograph of President Trump And it says, God bless the peacemaker. This is the peace president. Trump is the peace president. Are you kidding me? Have you seen the red caps this morning? Chills. President of peace. The president of peace. And they're handing those out. I saw a satirical post from one of the funny fake posters on X saying, Showing a crowd of the No Kings protesters. And here's what it says. My friends and I have been out all day protesting against this ceasefire. We demand a ceasefire that was not arranged by Donald Trump. We will never give up the struggle for peace. We struggle for peace. I mean, what are all these, what are the Greta Thunbergs of the world saying today? They've been demanding peace. So you get peace. But let's talk a little bit about this Saturday. Because in Dallas, in Fort Worth, in St. Petersburg, in Tampa, all over the country, millions of fools are going to take to the streets, banging their pots and pans and saying no kings. But I want you to connect the dots with me for just a moment. Connect these dots. if you had to objectively ask, well, what leads men, women, and children to take to the streets this Saturday for their stupid No Kings protest? What's the one issue? Well, you know what it is. The issue is ICE. The issue is the mass deportation and the enforcement of law and strengthening law enforcement in cities like Dallas, like cities all over the country, right? But connect the dots. They've wanted peace in the Middle East. Now Trump took a giant step towards peace in the Middle East. All Trump wants is peace in American cities. Yes. That's all he's trying to achieve. And yet Pritzker and Newsom and Hochul and all the rest of them, apparently they object to peace in their cities.
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Peace is bad. Crime is good. Peace is bad. And law enforcement is bad. And telegraphing forward again this Saturday, October 18th, not to plug it. Actually, I'll send people to nokings.org. You can find out where the protests are.
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Sign up.
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No, don't sign up. So you can avoid these jack wagons, because there will be, again, pots and pans being banged. And now, flash forward, imagine driving, let's say you've got to drive through where one of these gangs of idiots are. How many Hispanics do you think will be in that crowd? Or blacks? Not many, exactly. And the answer is not many. It'll be old, crusty, confused white people, liberal crank Caucasians who hate Trump's guts, and this is their performance art.
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Every single white boomer in America who is a hippie that lived through Woodstock has plans this Saturday. They have finally got something to look forward to. Instead of pickleball, they finally got something that they can be excited about, marching around with images of Trump as Adolf Hitler, coming right after this deal. Think about it. I love what you said. I love what you said about Kamala Harris and the stuff of nightmares. I mean, you think these hostages would be home today? You think there'd be peace in the Middle East? You think Hamas would agree? And you're right. You think about all the giant pieces of this puzzle that had to come together, obliterating Iran's nuclear program. That gave countries the will, the Muslim countries, because you think about the...
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Out in these parts, some folks call it radio. We call it the last campfire of the American spirit. Stoke the fire of freedom with American Ground Radio with Louis R. Avalone and Stephen Parr. American Ground Radio, planting seeds, growing freedom. Listen wherever you get your podcasts and visit our website at AmericanGroundRadio.com.
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Abraham Accords. The Abraham Accords, I mean, you had to take, what was it, Morocco and the United Arab Emirates, the four nations, the four Muslim countries had to come to the table with Israel. The only way, the freedom they had was with Iran losing its nuclear capabilities. That's it. Without that, it doesn't happen. It just happens. Let's go back to New York for just a moment. Boy, there is some damning news coming out about Zoran Mamdani. The campaign took out, and apparently over the weekend it was reported, $13,000 in illegal foreign donations. You can go to jail for that if you're a candidate. At least $170,000 of the $54,000 contribution so far to the leading Democrat candidates' campaign came from donors with addresses outside the United States. The campaign has failed to return those foreign donations. Will it matter? I'm going to talk today to Curtis Lewa. Yes, it matters to Curtis. Yes. believe it, and I'm going to tell him about our journey. I'm going to mention you, and I'm going to mention my wavering a couple weeks ago, and I'm going to share with him, look, Curtis, you've been my friend. I've always supported you. I was wavering a few weeks ago. I thought maybe, maybe, you know, Cuomo's ahead of me. And my friend Mark Davis reminded me that you've got to do the right thing. When you say the lesser of two evils, evil is still evil. And you've got to sleep at night. You've got to vote for the right candidate and pray that New Yorkers somehow coalesce and figure it out. Or Cuomo drops out. I don't know. But Curtis is the man for the job. He's a lifelong crime fighter. He's the true Gotham Batman. I mean, he is Gotham's Batman, if there ever was one. And he's the man for the job. So we'll see Curtis on the show today at, let's see, that'll be 11.05 your time. Very cool.
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So over the weekend, with the remaining couple of minutes, we have pop culture passings. This one, it's funny, this one really hit me. It's 79 years old, the passing of the great Diane Keaton.
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Yeah, me too.
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What a magnificent woman, what a magnificent actress. And do you know what Lisa and I did last night? And it's funny, you want to have a fun conversation, you and I should do it sometime, especially with the degree to which we immerse ourselves in the culture. movies or TV shows that absolutely everybody in the world saw, but you didn't. I don't think I ever saw an episode of Hill Street Blues. I don't think I ever saw an episode of a bunch of others saying elsewhere. I just never did. And there are probably movies that we'd never, ever, ever seen. For Lisa and for me, we had never seen Annie Hall. For Lisa, part of that is the Woody Allen problem. She refuses to watch a Woody Allen movie, just because he's creepy. But she loves Diane Keaton so much, I said, honey... Why don't we compartmentalize? I never did it. It came out in 1977. I'm 19. I'm 20 years old. And I just never did. And so we watched Annie Hall last night. It is every bit the masterpiece. She is so sweet and so wonderful. We got Best Actress. I think I got Best Picture that year. It was great. And just through the Father of the Bride movies, through the various other things that she did. I think she did a movie with Morgan Freeman just a couple of five flights up, is it? Something like that. And so just an amazing body of work, just one of the great, great, great actresses.
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You know what I think of with a death like this? I think, of course, of their families. And she's got a couple of adult children that she adopted. She never married. Apparently had a real thing with Al Pacino, and Pacino walked away from it. And he was reportedly saying over the weekend, great regret of his life. And who knows about, you never know with any of these stars that we watch on the silver screen and what their personal lives are like. I mean, I suspect a lot of them are a wreck. I think a lot of them are a train wreck. But in her case, I thought about her kids. I saw a heartbreaking picture of her son. I think he's like 22, 23 years old. Do you think a movie star like Diane Keaton, with her family, ever sits and has a movie night where they look at her movies? Do you ever think about that? Do you think like the adult son and the adult daughter sit around and say, Mom? gosh were you great let's watch father of the bride tonight or do you and then she sits there and she tells them about things that happened behind the scenes as they shot that scene here's what woody allen did here here's what whatever steve martin did there do you think they do that or do you think that movie stars like diane keaton never look at their work again on the it's funny you mentioned because i i've when i do i do a ton of podcasts almost none of them about politics
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Because that's my life. This is what I do for a living. I do history. I do science. I do entertainment and stuff like that. On the occasions where I've heard famous people, whether it's a rock star being asked, do your kids listen to your records or a movie star? The answer is sometimes. And when it does happen, it's because the kids usually takes the kids well into their 20s to want to. Because when the kids are 5 and 10 and 15, that's just what mom and dad do. And it's like you and I do this or somebody else works at the auto plant or somebody else works at McDonald's. It's just mom and dad's job. But then when they realize, wait a minute, my mom and or dad did this and meant this much to millions of people. And those revisitations often do happen. And invariably to the movie star, to the TV star, kind of makes their skin crawl a little bit. Because you're sitting there thinking, what if they pick a movie of mine that's not that great? What if they pick a movie of mine that's not that great?
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Or something like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, or I was having a terrible chapter in my life then, and I hated my life, and I was in a bad relationship or whatever. Look, two of my kids, I can guarantee you, have never heard one word of the Mike Gallagher show. Oh, stop. Oh, no, not one word. No, they haven't.
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I guarantee you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I can promise you. Now, the other two, one of them... I'll send them a clip.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, please don't. Send them today's clip. What could anybody find fault with in today's Mike and Mark segment?
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Oh, they will.
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What could anybody...
SPEAKER 04 :
They will. They will. They will. Give them time. That's okay. I am feeling so great today, and I'm just so happy and so joyous. I got emotional. I teared up a few minutes ago. I was reading all the coverage, getting ready for my hit with you, and then getting ready to start my show at 10.05. I was thinking about one thing. The 20 remaining hostages got gift packages from the Israeli government. Interestingly, they included a phone, a cell phone, a laptop, all kinds of really interesting goodies from Benjamin Netanyahu, including the very simple message, we've been waiting for you. just written on a piece of paper, we've been waiting. And you know what?
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The phone will become obsolete. The laptop will need to be replaced. But that piece of paper on which that message is written will endure in a scrapbook somewhere forever.
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And to get to visit with you week after next from the Holy Land is just amazing.
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I cannot wait. It'll be the 325 segment. The 335 segment. Look, I get to finally sleep in for a few days.
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I love it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm loving this afternoon drive stuff.
SPEAKER 05 :
King of afternoon drive in the Middle East. Moishe Gallagher. He's ready to go. All right. I love you. Happy Monday. Shalom.
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Mike's ready to go. 10 o'clock. As soon as we're done on 660 AM, the answer.

Join professional money manager Bill Gundersen as he delves into the latest developments in global trade tensions and their impact on the stock market. With insights from his co-host Barry Kite, a chartered financial analyst and certified financial planner, the episode explores the volatile shifts seen in the market with a focus on the steep drops across major indices. From rare earth mineral export tensions to military use restrictions, this episode provides a comprehensive overview of the pressing economic issues that investors need to consider.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Tuesday morning. It is October the 14th, 2025. This is Bill Gunderson. It's the Best Stocks Now show. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst and certified financial planner. We have got a down day in the market so far as tariff talk, tariff trade tensions have Back at the top of the list today. It eased and cooled yesterday after some comments and rhetoric Sunday night from President Trump and from Besant. But it's back today, all right? The Dow is down 66 basis points. That's a 302-point drop, 45,764. The NASDAQ, after gaining back quite a bit yesterday, is down 1.3% right now to 22,389. The S&P is down 85 basis points. That's 56 points to 6,598. The bond market is acting well today after being closed yesterday. It's down one basis point right now. at 4.04%. That's the lowest we've seen rates here for a while. Even gold is down today. Boy, I tell you, it must be a risk-off day. Gold is just barely down. It's at 4,132. Silver's down 1.3 after topping 50,000 yesterday. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show, and maybe Best Inverse Funds Now. That's what I say on my podcast at the little halfway break there, because at some point in time, those inverse funds look pretty attractive. I continue to watch SARC and have a little position in it, which is inverse Cathie Wood's down there in St. Petersburg, Florida, at her ARC funds. Usually she's out there on a limb, and she is again. And when the market starts to pull in its horns, they're the first to go. Well, anyways, we had a pretty nice rebound yesterday in the markets after a little bit of easing of the tensions over the weekend, especially Sunday and early Monday. But you're back a little bit today. There are some port fees that are kicking in today, and that is raising the temperature once again and obviously spreading to the market. Over the weekend, Trump... Said he highly respected President Xi. He suggested that both nations want to avoid economic pain. Writing that the U.S. wants to help China, not hurting it. And he says the U.S. could negotiate if China was willing to be reasonable. Well, China's saying the same thing about Trump, right, Barry? He just needs to be more reasonable. And Besant's kind of in the middle saying there's been a substantial communication between the two heads of the world's largest economies. And in the meantime, I called it Rare Earth Monday yesterday, the Rare Earth Stocks. We're absolutely jumping off the shelves yesterday. Crazy what was going on there. Trump has hinted at imposing export controls on Boeing aircraft parts destined for China. in response to the recently announced restrictions on rare earth mineral exports and I read that these companies in China that are exporting rare earths they've got to get permission from the Chinese government and they have to submit an application to be able to export their rare earth minerals and it used to be processed fairly quickly maybe 45 days which is pretty quick for a government And now it's up to 90 days, something like that, as they are slow walking, I guess you could say, Barry, the permits.
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And not for military use, right? And it can't be, I believe, at least right now, it can't be, those minerals can't end up for military use. So that's another kind of issue. deal out there. I saw where Raytheon and some other of your weapons makers are starting to run very, very low on their rare earth supplies.
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Well, I've got to believe that that's the bottom line in these rare earths. It's one thing, magnets for EV cars, but I don't think Trump is all that interested in magnets for EV cars. I know GM, they're going to write off $1.6 billion in losses Because of the slowdown in EV. I got to believe that it comes down to weaponry, advanced weaponry. And that's the real rub. And just like World War II back then, it was steel and oil. Now you're talking technology, NVIDIA chips, you know, all of the software. And, of course, now the rare earth minerals come into play as each country, especially China, ramping up their military big time, especially their Navy. Lots of subs. Yeah, I don't know. I talk to a lot of people in the military, and they say, yeah, China doesn't really have the sophistication that we have. And that's where we have leverage over China.
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And they have three aircraft carriers, by the way. And I'm not even sure if they can – you can look this up, but I know at least one of them is just helicopters. I'm not sure if they can land a plane on top of an aircraft carrier yet.
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My hometown of San Diego has got three right there in front of where I usually stay downtown. So we have a pretty awesome – uh navy uh in the u.s uh of a and of course the government shut down now it's the 13th day and i don't really see any progress being made uh the paychecks i'll find out from my son-in-law whether he gets his paycheck today or not well didn't trump uh announce something what over the weekend that the military was getting paid i don't know if it was well they found some funds and then some one judge in denver or somewhere blocked it you know that that This judge thing is just absolutely insane and out of control. He found other funds to fund the military.
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And I saw where the Coast Guard, I guess, is going to get. I saw yesterday the Coast Guard, I guess, is going to be part of that now and should get paid today. We'll see, I guess.
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Yes. So you don't want to really go out fishing today. Well, maybe. If they get paid, they'll come get you. if you get into trouble that in the meantime we've had some big earnings today from S&P 500 companies we've had JP Morgan report we've had Wells Fargo we've had Goldman Sachs we've had Bank of America we've had Morgan Stanley the venerable old Johnson and Johnson we're gonna get 37 S&P 500 companies reporting this week and you've got about 10 of them reporting today yesterday as i said it was quite the rare earth rally i do see that critical minerals is up again today crml but you had usa rare earth up 32.6 yesterday that's usar tmc the metals company they're the ones that are looking for rare earth in the ocean underground there under the ocean and the under the sea uh they were up 27 yesterday critical metals was up 27 energy fuels which is u u u u was up 25 westwater resources okay i've got to add that one to my rare earth list i didn't i don't know if i have that in the app it was up 25 antimony was the chart of the day United States Antimony. That's got to have some weaponry applications there. Trilogy Metals, TMQ, was up 16%. Lithium America, up 15.6%. Nuvo Monde Graphite. They make some kind of synthetic graphite. NMG is the symbol there. Neocorp, which I mentioned yesterday, NB. Lithium Argentina. LAR, Ramico Resources, METC, Uranium Energy, UEC, Cameco, CCJ, Denison Mines up 7.6, NextGen Energy, NXE, and Linus Rare Earths. Those are a lot of them that were really moving. And, of course, you've got Mountain Pass MP Materials, probably the best one of the bunch. And then you've got some Australian companies that I've been adding to the app here recently. So what is it today? It seems to be the port fees and the export controls that China is putting on the rare earth minerals elements. The United States and China will start charging new port fees on each other's vessels starting today. escalating trade tensions between the world's two largest economies. Markets have detected some shifting around in the U.S. approach to trade with China. Well, that's it right now, and that's why we have a down day going on here so far today. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, the Dow has come back some. It was down over 400 points. Now it's down 195. The NASDAQ, however, is down 257 right now. which is a 1.14% drop. Okay, now, as far as these port fees which kick in today, that seems to be the real issue. The United States and China will begin charging new port fees on each other's vessels. Starting today, the additional fees would be imposed on ocean shipping firms that move everything from holiday toys. Uh-oh, here we go. It's going to cost you more for some of those toys to crude oil. China spelled out some specific provisions on exemptions. But here's the new U.S. tariffs that come into effect today. They come into effect on imported timber coming from China. I don't know that we import a lot of timber. Kitchen cabinets, though, definitely coming from China. I've got to imagine a lot of those cabinets at Lowe's and Home Depot are coming from China. Upholstered furniture. I bought my share of upholstered furniture from China, Barry, and I'm sure everybody else has, delivered right to the door in a box with about 500 parts that you've got to assemble with one of those little funny Allen wrenches that you get, you know. Much of that comes from China. China's position is consistent. If there's a fight, we'll fight to the end. If there's a talk... The door is open, said a Chinese Commerce Ministry spokesperson. He also said that the U.S. cannot demand talks while simultaneously imposing new restrictive measures with threats and intimidation. This is not the right way to engage with China. So anyways, that's where we're at. In retaliation, U.S.-linked ships docking at Chinese ports. I wonder how many of our ships actually dock at Chinese ports. I'm sure we've got a lot more here in the Charleston Harbor than they do of our ships. The duties are closely matched to the port fees imposed by Washington. And Europe is caught in the middle. Their markets are down today. I just wonder if that rally in the European stocks, which has been pretty strong here this year. Europe's had one of its best years in a long time. You know, despite an economy that's growing single digits at best, usually sub 1%, It's had a good year because a lot of money moved to Europe earlier this year when all this trade stuff started happening. Bank of America is warning of a possible S&P 500 correction as tariff tensions resurface. Well, you know, I mean, I've been talking a lot, and every week as I go through the charts, I put a little top line on there, the NASDAQ, the S&P, and the Dow. Right now it would be whatever we hit last Thursday, because on Friday you had that big sell-off. You had a comeback yesterday, which was about 50% to 60% of what we lost on Friday. But right now, I mean, you would be operating under the assumption that last Thursday we have eclipsed a couple of tops that we've set recently. We've gone on to make new highs. But right now, you know, if that was the top. And I also said that it usually takes an adverse news event. to finally put in a top. Now, I'm not talking about the ultimate top, because I believe that the earnings estimates for next year and the year after that support a higher market. But we've come a long ways from April 8th until now, and that's the top that I would be looking for in setting us up for a fairly healthy correction. Bank of America says the rally may be showing cracks as weak market breadth. There is weak breath, Barry. It is highly focused in the rare earth, stocks, quantum, AI.
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Anything AI-centric, right? I mean, follow the ecosystem from the chips and data centers out to the power and then – And to the small nuclear space.
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Yes. Now, the one thing we do have going with it for us is accommodative Fed. We're in lowering interest rate mode. That helps a lot unless inflation kicks back in. I mean, with these port fees and tariffs and whatnot, you could see some inflation coming back.
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In terms of correlation over the last, just call it the last 30 years, the one thing that the market has been most correlated to is interest rates. And so as interest rates go down, right, all else being equal, equity prices and other asset prices go up. So it's a big driver.
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Yep. If history rhymes, this is what Bank of America is saying, which is kind of Merrill Lynch, I suppose. 10% correction is possible would fit the pattern. But and this is the hard part to predict because this is all news driven. This isn't economy driven. It's news driven. which is very unpredictable. Who would have ever guessed that on Friday, you know, Trump would throw out the 100% tariff talk, which set the markets reeling, and then on Sunday night he walks it back. You just can't even predict that kind of stuff. They say that the market could go on to rally towards 7,000 if tariff fears fade, and I would be in that same boat, you know. You just don't know if the two sides can come together. But having said that... You know, the most speculative areas of the market, there's definitely bubbles there in a lot of areas, in my opinion. And that's the area you have to be the most careful with, the ARK funds. And so in our portfolios, our emerging growth portfolio, we've locked in quite a few profits there. books and profits, and our cash position in that portfolio, 67%, Barry. And I think that's an appropriate position for those kinds of stocks, which are some of the drone stocks and MP Materials and Rocket Labs and Supermicrocomputer. But, you know, we've booked some big profits in Nebius Group, in Astera Labs, in Pony, and some others that were even out there further on the limb. That's our smallest portfolio. That's our most aggressive portfolio. You step up to the Ultra Growth, which is one step above that. where you have more established names like Arista Networks and DoorDash and Robinhood and Palantir, etc., that one is now 48% cash. So it depends on where you're at in the spectrum. I would definitely not be on any leverage right now, especially leveraged individual stocks. Or leverage, you know, there's a lot of 3-to-1 NASDAQ, 3-to-1 tech, 2-to-1 this, 2-to-1 that. I wouldn't be in any of that right now. And then as I step up to our large cap growth portfolio, it's only total cash 15.5%. So, again, it depends where you're at on the spectrum. And as I have always said, you have to take it one stock at a time. That's where your risk management comes in, is knowing where each one of your kids are before they go to bed at night, right? The same with the stocks or the team that you've assembled in your portfolio. You have to watch them very closely right now. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersenCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. And I'll be headed down to Florida, the...
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Sarasota area. The Longboat Key, Florida area to be specific at the St. Regis Resort tomorrow. I'll have Barry and Jeff doing the show tomorrow as I fly down. On Friday, if you're interested, this is a pretty rare opportunity. You've got some high-powered speakers there. It is a $500 deal. You know, I'm not in charge of this thing. They are, and they invited me to speak at it. But from 9 to 10.30 a.m. at the St. Regis Longboat Key Resort Disruptive Strategy Interactive Lecture by Rory McDonald. who is my nephew, and he worked alongside Clay Christensen who came up with this whole concept of disruptive technologies at Harvard University. The program opens up to an interactive session focused on the basic principles of disruptive innovation. Man, I love that term. A framework of strategy that explains why smaller upstarts are sometimes able to successfully challenge leading incumbents, Barry. And it's true. You know, a little firm like ours is much more nimble. than a Merrill Lynch or any others of the big firms out there that are giant, very slow to adapt. Through an interactive lecture format, we will examine why large, successful companies struggle to adapt. In the face of market and technological change and what leaders can do about it.
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It's like turning the Titanic versus a little 35-foot fishing boat.
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100%.
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And disruptors come along all the time. In every sector, in every industry.
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And then at 1045 to noon, Best Stocks Now, Bill Gunderson will be talking about disruptive companies that are publicly traded. You know, not everybody has access to the private markets, venture capital startups, which is a very high-risk area. And we've discussed many times how they want to package that and bring it to you. And I would avoid that like the plague myself. It sounds interesting. Oh, I can get exposure to some of these big startups out there like Elon Musk at SpaceLink and Anthropic and OpenAI. Yeah, but there's also a lot of junk packaged in there and very few of them. And by the time you get access to these private companies, they're trading at huge multiples. It's the guys that get in on the ground floor that now need liquidity from people like you to exit their positions if they never go public or get bought out. So I'm going to talk about the public side of this whole A.I., And then from 115 to 230, how private equity impacts small business. Man, I have seen an explosion here. And Newell White will be teaching that. He says over the last 25 years, private equity has evolved into a massive force across many industries. Barry, they're gobbling up laundry companies. They're gobbling up just about companies in every industry you can imagine, CPA firms, firms like mine. We're one of the hottest industries out there in private equity. Its impacts are undeniable, and as more capital flows into private equity, investments are being made in professional service companies and small businesses. These impacts have dramatically affected the health care industry and now threaten to disrupt law firm practices. How about that? So how can you position yourself, your company, or how can you be part of this, what is taking place? So that's all on Friday at the St. Regis Longboat Key Resort. from 9 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. If you want more information on that, we have a large listening audience down in the Sarasota area. You're going to see three experts in their own disciplines speaking on that Friday. Call Edie, call us, and she'll put you in touch with Newell White. At 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-BEST. Or send us a message through GundersenCapital.com. But you're going to have three high-powered speakers there on Friday. A longboat key. With no hurricanes, I don't think, offshore being predicted. So we should be okay there, Barry.
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Yeah, we had a client speaking to a client last week, and he gave me the background on that property. You'll be there at the St. Regis, and he said you're in for quite a treat. That's what I've heard, because it got hit hard. Well, it was a project, I mean, to build the thing. I think it was, you know, it's got the background. I think it was like, you know, a project where, you know, probably took 15 or so years. They had to, you know, scrape what was there originally. I believe it was an old tennis club. And then, of course, you know, legalities and, you know, zoning issues, right, and all that. And finally, you know, culmination of what it is today and what you'll see tomorrow.
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Yeah. If it was in California, it would have never been built. I mean, they would be so tied up by the California Coastal Commission, it just wouldn't have happened. But I'm anxious to see it and stay there. Okay, look out, NVIDIA. Here comes Broadcom. What, you say? Well, Broadcom is launching a networking chip called the Thor Ultra. And it's hitting NVIDIA stock a little bit here today. Broadcom is launching a new networking chip called Thor Ultra, which will help companies build AI computing systems. Listen to this. By stringing together hundreds of thousands of chips that process data, heating up the race with NVIDIA. You know, and I think the loser in this right now seems to be Arista Networks. I've seen a little weakness in that stock recently.
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They were the only ones down. I mean, when I was looking at yesterday in terms of our holdings, it was one of the only names, I think one of three names that were down. I think the other one was Lilly. But, yeah, whenever you've got all those names going up and you saw that name in red, it was kind of a red book.
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They're obviously on the wrong side of this new development. Thor Ultra allows computing infrastructure operators to deploy far more chips than the other ways could, enabling them to build and run large language models, or LLMs. That's a new one that we have. that power AI applications, so Broadcom all of a sudden in the race, along with Chinese companies too, to nip at NVIDIA's heels. Now, the other big winner in all of this lately has been AMD. You know, OpenAI, Sam Altman's company, tapped AMD for their data centers. AMD is up today on a down day in the NASDAQ. We own AMD. AMD is up 2.44% today. They're getting another contract today, this time from Oracle. uh oracle uh let's see where did that news go there there it is oracle is going to buy 50 000 amd ai chips the oracle cloud and of course oracle all of a sudden has become a a big player in all of these data centers. Oracle plans to deploy AMD's Instinct M1450 chips, which were introduced earlier this year. These are AMD's first AI accelerators designed to scale into rack-sized systems. Allowing up to 72 chips to operate as a single unit. A configuration essential for running and deploying advanced AI algorithms. You just wonder, look at the money that is being thrown at these AI algorithms. The brain power, the electrical power, the coal power, the nuclear power. Is this where we should be spending all of our money? It seems like we're putting an awful lot of money into this. AMD has done a great job of positioning themselves in this space. And now there's a little one that's getting caught up in all of this. Navitas Semiconductor, NVTS. Let's see how it's doing today. It was up 25% in the pre-market. Now it's up 22.6%. It's based in Ireland. But some of these companies are Silicon Valley. They just happen to be domiciled in Ireland because of the favorable tax treatment over there. Navitas soars on progress in 800 VDC power devices for NVIDIA AI platforms. That's got to be a good thing. So that one goes in as a possibility for the emerging growth portfolio. Those are the kind of stocks that we look for in that emerging growth portfolio. I'm not saying that we're going to buy this one, but it's definitely a new player And any kind of association with NVIDIA is a good thing. And then another big development for South Carolina, our neck of the woods, Barry, right here in our backyard in Dorchester County.
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You've got to go where you want to go and do what you want to do with it, whoever you are.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. A big investment by Google in Goose Creek Berry. which isn't far from us. Google already has a big data center there along Highway 52. They announced a new $9 billion investment in South Carolina through 2027 to expand AI infrastructure in the state. The funding will expand our Berkeley County data center campus. and support the continued construction of two new sites in Dorchester County. This is all about 45 minutes from where I am. The program is going to prepare more than 160 apprentices. This is a great opportunity. Man, if I had kids just out of high school or getting out of college, 160 apprentices for careers in South Carolina's tech and energy sector. We're becoming quite the hub. Not only do we have Boeing. the port uh... we have uh... the first uh... rare earth uh... refinery or the first one built in many years being built in sumter we're a nuclear center in columbia south carolina and rolls royce is building a plant in uh... aiken south carolina and now you got google spending all of this money along with mercedes-benz bmw Volvo, this is quite a booming area.
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And our Treasury Secretary got plucked from here, too.
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Yes. Besant is gone. Right. And we've got a good governor. We've had some good governors here in South Carolina. Short sellers lose $3.5 billion as Robinhood soars. That's one of our holdings. We've done well with Robinhood. We've met with a guy while we were in the Bay Area that actually is one of the compliance officers at Robin Hood. Very important in that business. I'll say. When you're getting into prediction markets and this kind of thing, you're really pushing the envelope. I asked him. How many compliance people did he say his department had, like 100?
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I think he said it was one of the biggest growing departments in the company.
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Yeah, compliance, just taking care of compliance, making sure you're dotting all the I's, crossing all the T's, and keeping a close watch on everything that goes on there. And, of course, I mean, look, they do. They push the envelope there at Robinhood. even talking about sports betting at some point maybe. Okay, J.P. Morgan, let's go through these. Let's rattle off these really quickly. You know, they've had a good five-year run, these banks, these big banks. They've averaged about 25% returns over the last five years. The 10-year returns aren't that great because they came through that – Well, they're not growth companies like the tech stocks are. So J.P. Morgan's down 1.6%, but it's averaged over the last five years 28% per year returns. The valuation's a little tough here to justify it doing that over the next five years. Wells Fargo's the big winner today. It's up 6.5% today as they turn that ship around. Man, that was a troubled, remember they were opening all of those accounts that were unauthorized accounts?
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Oh, yeah, that was a handful of years ago. So they were hitting their bonuses by opening bogus accounts, right? Yeah.
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Do we need any more banks? There's a bank. They're even building one at the entrance to my neighborhood, a J.P. Morgan bank in the weirdest place you'd ever want to see.
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That one's going to be a chase right there as you're leaving on the right, huh?
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Yeah, it's crazy how many little banks. They're all competing with one another.
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And they don't even really want you to go to the branch anymore. I mean, they'd rather you do it all mobile and everything else. The fact that they're actually building brick and mortar kind of blows my mind a bit.
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Then Citigroup has reported it's up 1.5%. So, so far, the earnings parade is underway. Fastenal reported yesterday, which kind of kicked it off. They had a rough start. But today, Wells Fargo and Citigroup with some very good earnings. And then Johnson & Johnson, the venerable old Johnson & Johnson, down 1.5% right now, a member of the Dow. In fact, five Dow stocks of the 30 are reporting this week, and you've just had, I think, three or four. uh... report so far today if we look up the ten-year record and five-year record on jay and jay which has not been much of a disruptive innovator they've mostly been on the other end of that stick being disrupted and then all the problem they had with talc uh... and you know if it if it's proven that uh... tylenol does have something to do with autism they're they're behind that also their five-year average Return, now J.P. Morgan's 28%. J&J is 7.8%. That's horrible. Versus 18% for the S&P 500. And over the last 10 years, they've returned 10.2%. While that might sound pretty good, it can't hold the candle to the S&P, which has been 23.1%. It has had a pretty good run over the last 12 months. There's a lot of money left. went into companies like this that were kind of not impacted by the tariff war. But I certainly wouldn't be buying Johnson & Johnson. You know, I've got 25 people to put on my roster, 25 stocks in any one of the rosters that I manage. You're your own general manager. You might be running your own baseball team. or your football team. You may have hired a manager to run it. Would you take up one spot with J&J? I certainly wouldn't. I've got a valuation grade over the next five years that is pretty subpar also. It has 56% upside potential over the next five years. I like 80% or more, so it doesn't even come close. Okay, well, that was an action-packed hour, and I'll turn it over to Barry and Jeff tomorrow as I travel down to the Tampa and then Sarasota area, and I'll be speaking there on Friday at the South Florida Business Conference with my nephew, who is very well-known. He flies all over the world speaking on disruptive, how to disrupt, how the little guys can disrupt the big guys and be a thorn in their side, and how they're slow to adapt, which is an advantage that small companies have. And then Newell White talking about the impact. How do you access some of that private equity money and get in on that, or how do you invest alongside with private equity? There's a couple of ways of looking at that also. If you'd like to get a four-week trial to the newsletter, or if you'd like to attend the conference on Friday or get more information, you can talk directly with Newell, who will be one of the presenters. Call us first, E.D., 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. And if you'd like to set up an appointment with us, man, we've been busy putting new clients' money to work or upgrading their portfolios. Call us at 855-611-BEST to get four-week trial to the newsletter.
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Join Angie Austin in a captivating episode discussing financial priorities with Jim Stovall. Delve into enriching conversations that explore scarcity versus abundance, the value of entrepreneurial endeavors, and seizing life’s opportunities. Discover Jim’s insightful perspectives drawn from his experiences and cherished columns, designed to motivate and enlighten.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hey, Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with The Good News. We're talking about his winner's wisdom column. I just get such a kick every week out of, like, Jim teaches us a new thing, but I get to have a new conversation with him. I'm never bored. I always take up the full time with him. And today we're talking price and priority. Hey, Jim.
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Hey, it is great to be with you.
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You know, you're talking in this about, you know, the struggles of your college career financially in the early years of your marriage. And I'll never forget when you said you went to the grocery store with Crystal, your wife, and she had to put back a loaf of bread or something of the sort. And, you know, we didn't have enough money and you vowed you would never do that again. And I think about my son starting college. I don't know that he's struggling financially per se, but we're. initially making him pay for his tuition because I feel like, well, I did, my husband did not, but it made me feel like I had skin in the game and I was never going to mess up that opportunity because I knew how hard I was working to pay for my tuition. So I don't know that he's struggling, but he's definitely having to work, you know, to pay his way.
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Oh, I think that's part of the education at the university. You know, we have the Stovall Center for Entrepreneurship where students from around the in entrepreneurship. And I can tell almost perfectly who's paying for part of their education and who's got mom and dad paying for it. And one way is tuition is kind of a set amount between 12 and 18 hours. It's the same amount. Well, the kids that are paying for it themselves, they got a full load. They're taking 18 hours. They're not leaving anything on the table, but then there's a lot of kids. They're just playing all the way through college. And yeah, I'll just take 12 hours a semester. And, uh, And they could have taken two more full classes for no extra money, but they don't do it. And it's just like I always tell parents I can go to the parking lot of any high school in America and tell very quickly who had to pay for their own car just by the way they keep the thing. Oh, wow.
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That's interesting.
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You can tell.
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You know, when you talk about that, I've kind of pondered that because one of my kids has been given a scholarship. She starts next year, and she can take as many classes as she wants. You're right. It can be 18. And then I think in my head, like, can I fit in a few classes that aren't as challenging in there? And can she do... Like, to be honest with you, like 15, I think, is going to be challenging for her, especially with her sport. But... My brain thinks the way your brain does, like, well, I was paying for everything, so I would certainly max out my number of credits. But where my son goes, where I went, University of Colorado Boulder, you pay per credit, so it doesn't really matter. But boy, if you could take as many as 21 credits and it costs the same, I'll guarantee you I would have been taking 21 credits.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, absolutely. And, you know, I always tell people that, you know, we know the cost of everything and the price of everything, but the value of nothing. I mean, you know, to get a good value on something you don't want or need is not a good value. Our zoo here in my hometown just had a fundraising promotion, and someone decided that elephant waste is a great fertilizer, so they value this at $6 a pound. Now, I just... The entrepreneur in me couldn't help but, man, that makes an elephant worth a lot of money because they have a great production there. But if you don't have a specific need for elephant manure, half price is not a good deal. Free is not a good deal. And, you know, Mr. Braxton, my mentor, taught me how to read a restaurant menu. He said, people who are living in abundance, and that's an attitude, not an amount of money, but people who are living in abundance look down the left side of the menu and decide what they want to eat. People who are living in scarcity go down the right side, look at all the prices, and when they see something to afford, they swing over to the left and see what they're going to have for dinner. And he said, if you have to do that, you can't afford to eat out. He also told me, if you have to do that and you can't afford to tip generously... You shouldn't be eating out. I mean, it's just that simple. I mean, this should be an exercise in getting what you want. And, you know, it's like many things in life. Financially, we can have about anything we want, but you can't have everything. I consult with one of the top real estate people here in my home state, but when he started out, he had nothing. And he was a single guy. He lived in a little tiny apartment. And he would save all his money, and four times a year he would take these epic trips. And he would go on an African safari, or he would surf down in Australia, or do the Rhine River cruise, and all these things. And every 90 days he would go do one of these, and then the rest of the time he's living in poverty. And he didn't care, because that's what he wanted. And I think that's a great thing. I mean, you can have anything, but you can't have everything. I have another friend, and he owns six of these vintage safaris. you know, Maserati, McLaren, these amazing, amazing cars. And, you know, and that's his passion. He never goes anywhere and does anything. He likes these cars. And if that's what you want, so be it. Because money is about choices. It's not about impressing other people. It's not about anything else. It's about giving you opportunities and options. And, you know, that's what we're talking about this week in this column.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I always enjoy your columns. I always, I don't know, I like the conversation that they start. Now, when people, you know, I know you have, it's crazy. I can't even believe that, you know, people will believe you do this. But Jim accepts phone calls and emails from anyone who wants to, you know, email him. And he makes it, you know, it's like, hey, if you want to reach out to me, here's how you do it. And it says, you know, Jim at Jim Stovall dot com or by phone and has your phone number. Which is just so crazy to me because you've written about 60 books now and you're working on your ninth movie. But what kind of feedback do you get, you know, for these articles like Price and Priority and last week, you know, Overtime?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, you know, most people, and we have 10 million books out there with the contact info in all of them, and they tell me somewhere between 2 and 3 million people a week read this column, and they can all call me or email me. I've been doing this for 25 years, and it seems to come into three categories. People want to know, how do I get rich? How do I get in shape? How do I become happy? healthy you know those are the things people look at and then of course how do I meet the right person in my life and and you know those are the you know but the big three are how do I get rich how do I get healthy how do I get in a relationship and and that seems to never change and and and In all three cases, it's not about finding something you don't have that's out there. There's no secret pill. You already have what you need to be wealthy, healthy, and be in a great relationship. Everybody's looking for the perfect person. If you'll be more concerned about being the perfect person, you'll attract who you want in your life.
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Now, you know, I think, I forget what the, oh, scarcity mentality. I think I might have that a little bit, you know, having grown up so poor and then always trying to, you know, order water and not get dessert and never order, well, I don't drink alcohol anyway, but I even like the kids to order water. And I know when the waitress comes up and we're like, We'll take five waters and Gran will get a water that the waitress probably thinks she's going to get a crummy tip. But no, she'll probably get a 30% tip because I'd rather give her a tip than spend the money on soda or whatever. But with that said, I think I do have that scarcity mentality. And you talked about your friend Lee Braxton with the third grade education becoming a self-made millionaire in the Depression. So when you talk about that menu and people with financial struggles look down, like I might look at the side dishes like the other night. I'm not poor, obviously, now, but I ordered the cup of soup and coleslaw, which were both sides, right? Or I might order an appetizer for dinner. And it's just habit. I can't help that scarcity mentality. And I know I don't have it with generosity. If it's for other people, I'm very generous. But when it comes to things that I can skimp on. If I can buy like an Amazon return couch, for instance, our couch, it was half as much because somebody didn't like it. But it was like open box or as new as if you can fit a couch just in a box. You know what I mean? So that's how I'll shop. And I think I do. I am stuck in that scarcity mentality that I think does adversely affect people becoming wealthy.
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Well, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you have other priorities in your life. I mean, you don't want to spend money on a $3 soft drink at a restaurant. You'd rather order the water and then tip better or invest the money somewhere else. And a scarcity mentality is, I'm going to run out, I'm going to be broke, I'll never get enough. And that has nothing to do with your bank balance. I had a financial planner called me recently and he said, I need you to spend an hour with one of my clients, which is something I do. And You know, I looked at her portfolio, and I won't mention her name. If I did, many of your listeners would know it. But she had a net worth of $54 million and no debt. And she was afraid she was going to run out of money. And I said, well, let's go through it real quick here. What's the most money you spend? She told me, and I said, let's triple that. And I said, what's the highest you think inflation could get? And she told me, I said, let's triple that. And then, how long do you think you would live? And she said, well, maybe 85 or 90. I said, let's say you live to be 125, okay? And we put all this in, and I said, okay, given all that, when you die, you will have more money than you have now. And spending three times what you're spending, and, you know, inflation three times higher than you can imagine it. And that, all of a sudden, she got a snapshot of this and was able to calm down a little. But if you've gone through your whole life and money is nothing but anxiety and worry and it's something you fret about all the time, having a bigger bank account doesn't help that. It's a change of attitude you need.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I think, um, I've, I've heard that people who've grown up without not much kind of can go one of two ways and I'm sure there's, you know, there's plenty in the middle, but that overspending where they get the money and they just go crazy and then they run into troubles, obviously. And then those may be like me that are super, super conservative, but I think I have become more, you know, I spend money on experiences like trips, like that's something else. Oh, and real estate, like a home, but you know, cars, boy, um, I told you my son was in an accident and, uh, When they were figuring out the value of the car, they're like, is it under $15,000? Because it has something to do with insurance and how it's paid. When we looked up the blue book on a 2003 Lexus GX470, I think it was around $3,500. And I'm like, we just put repairs and tires into that thing that were more expensive than the car itself right but i laughed with grandma i said well um i said that car took him home from the hospital and it kept him from going to the grave because those v8s are such tanks you know that i credit that you know car for keeping him you know his injuries at a minimum uh but Yeah, I'm not one to spend a lot of money on things I think are frivolous or I won't get a – like you obviously get a payback when you buy real estate, right? But you don't get a payback when you buy a car usually unless it's like safety. But you know what I mean? You're not going to sell it for more than you bought it for like you do a home. So I tend to spend my money on things that I hope I'll get some kind of a return.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. No, I mean – You know, cars are an expense and homes are an asset. And if you look at them that way, yeah, you can grow. And Will Rogers said it best, Americans will be the only nation in history that goes to the poorhouse in an automobile. We, you know, you can spend so much money, and now they have these things where you can finance them for eight years and then roll your debt into the next one and the next one and the next one. And, wow, you can get really upside down in those things.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh my God. Hey, I've never asked you, do you, I mean, I know you don't drive because you can't see, which actually probably could drive that Tesla. Now I've been driving that around with my son cause he can't use both of his hands, but he can use one hand. Um, and it drives you wherever you want to go. And you can even summon it. Now you can say like, come up the driveway and it'll drive itself up to where you're standing or whatever. Anyway, are you into cars? Um, do you like nice cars?
SPEAKER 03 :
Miss Crystal does. For the last 25, 30 years, she's driven a Mercedes she really likes. We trade them off periodically. I remember we had an old Pontiac, 20 years old. the green dog that we traded in when we got our first Mercedes. And I remember I'd saved my money. We were going to buy cash for this thing. We went over to the lot, and the guy comes out and says, what is that? I said, that right there is a 74 Pontiac is what that is. He said, can you park it in the alley or something? I don't want it sitting out here. I said, well, I was going to trade it in. And he said, I'll give you $1,000 off anything, and you keep the car. And he said, I'll give you extra if it's full of gas. He said, that's the kind of car you double the value if you've got a full tank, you know.
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Oh, my gosh. We had a rental called the Green Goblin. It's funny that you called it that, that, you know, the kids were so embarrassed to drive in it. Oh, unfortunately, we're out of time. Thank you so much, JimStoval.com. Thank you, friend. You're welcome.
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Hello there, friend. If you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. And, you know, you may have athletes in your family. And, you know, I talk about my kids all the time. They're high school athletes and a college athlete. And did you know that more than 2.6 million kids and teens go to the ER with sports injuries each year? Mine went via ambulance this year and all of them have been injured. So I'm well aware. Well, today we are going to learn how to prevent injuries in young athletes and learn what to do when an injury occurs. Joining us is an expert in the area, Dr. Naomi J. Brown. Dr. Brown is a pediatric sports medicine specialist at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, one of the top hospitals in the country. Welcome, Dr. Brown.
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Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, so I was shocked when my kids started playing sports at how a couple of things that a lot of them play year round. Now, one sport, which obviously puts a lot of strain on certain muscles, but also how rough some of these sports are. So how common are these injuries in young athletes?
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Unfortunately, they are common. Right. So there's some studies out there that look at the overall rate of sports injuries, both acute and chronic that you've mentioned going to the emergency room. the ambulances or the acute versus the chronic, which is that overused repetitive strain injury. And so if you think about athletic exposures, how many hours you're out there you take 1,000 athletic exposures, it's about a 2.29 risk out of 1,000 that you're going to get injured, which may not seem like a lot, but when you're out there on the field, it's not small.
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When you give me that stat, that one seems low to me, but as I get older, for instance, my daughter's college volleyball team, there's like four girls out at a time with injuries, and some of them long-term, like an ACL and knee injuries, back injuries. that seem to persist throughout the majority of the season. But even on the high school team, it seems like a couple of kids are injured at a time. So it seems like as they're older, the injuries are more common. Is that true?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think the overuse injuries definitely can become a little bit more common as we're playing. more and more. We're playing on three different teams at once. I mean, if you think about how often you get injured during your career, it's about a 45% chance that you're going to have some sort of injury. That doesn't mean it's going to be an ACL tear. It's more commonly going to be an ankle sprain or strain or a knee sprain. But we do see those torn knee ligaments. We see concussions. And unfortunately, it could be, you know, if you are having, you know, half the team out with an injury, is there something going on with how they're performing and there are they prepared for it is there something that's different that's happening that you sometimes have to look locally to why is one team getting more injured than another you know one thing we talk to our kids about all the time is something that they don't really seem to like to do and that's stretching what can these kids do to prevent their injuries i mean stretching i think that's one of the They don't like it. It's boring. But dynamic stretches before you play is so important. It helps loosen muscles. It also warms up the muscles. And then you do static stretches, which are those holdings still in one position after you're done exercising. That's in your cool-down phase. That helps to relax and elongate the muscles after they've been playing. But people say, oh, I've got to go home. I've got to go get dinner. Spend five, ten minutes doing those stretches one day a week. Do some yoga for half an hour, an hour. You really can help prevent injury by doing that.
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Now, I'm going to defer to you on this in terms of best options for treatment, because when my son was playing volleyball and rolled his ankle, I went ahead and did urgent care. So I'm like, OK, I can take him. And it ended up being $50 because we have good insurance. Right. But then I took my other daughter. I drove her to the ER and her couple hour trip was like 13,000. But the one with the ambulance, obviously, we had no choice. She couldn't move. and she was on the basketball court and couldn't stand up. So that, we had no choice, right? That is definitely, obviously, ER. So what, and with my son, I just thought, you know, I can wait on this one, and I can go for an option for treatment that isn't expensive. Obviously, though, for the best care, I do go to an ER and a hospital where I know they will have every type of test necessary if it's serious. What are the best options, in your opinion, for treatment?
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, you basically just described the acuity, right? If you have a a deformed wrist that probably needs to be set, you need to go to a pediatric emergency room. You need to go somewhere where they are trained to treat pediatric injuries. But if you have someone who rolled their ankle, maybe it's hard for them to bear weight. It's tolerable. They're not an excruciating pain. mean an urgent care is the perfect place because yes it is cheaper your co-pay is much less than going to emergency department but don't forget you also have your pediatrician right so if it happens and and he's like oh i'm okay i can walk on it but the next day the ankle is more swollen call the pediatrician's office and they may say hey we have x-ray in our office or we can send you for x-ray it may be an extra step with a phone call but it also might be a lot less expensive for you so it really just depends on what kind of injury if You're talking about someone with knee pain that's been going on for a month and you're like, enough is enough. I need to get this checked out. Your pediatrician is perfect for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a good point. That's a good point because a lot of times they have a few openings in the morning for something that's going on that day per se. Okay. And then they're familiar with your child as well. All right. Now, so in terms of injury prevention, we've got the, you know, obviously plenty of sleep, stretching, you know, being hydrated. Electrolytes, is that something that you deem important as well or is that hype?
SPEAKER 05 :
Both. I think electrolytes are really important. If you're exercising for more than an hour at a time, then you really do need to replenish the electrolytes. I do think, though, that you have your 10-year-old playing baseball, and they've been out there, and yes, it's been an hour and a half, but they've barely been playing, and you get your Gatorade afterwards. Is that necessary? No, it's fun and it's fine. But if you're really doing exercise in heat for more than an hour, then you need to replace your electrolyte.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, we just have a minute or so left. What's one of the biggest mistakes you see athletes and or parents making when it comes to kids and injuries?
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Not taking enough to recovery day, making sure they're getting rest, making sure that they're not playing year round games. making sure they're cross-training. Those are kind of the biggest things that I see. The risk of burnout is so high in our youth that making sure that they're, you know, taking that day, that doesn't mean that that day is to exercise something else, right? Take a day to go enjoy yourself, go hang out with your friends. You do not need to be exercising seven days a week.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, that's a great tip. I love that. I'm going to repeat that one to my family. Excellent. All right, doctor, where do we go to get more info?
SPEAKER 05 :
Lots of great resources out there. Obviously, our hospital, CHOP.edu, forward slash sports has a great website. But some other places, the National Council of Youth Sports has a wonderful website, NCYS.org. It's called Stop Sports Injuries. It's sports trauma and overuse prevention. Wonderful information, both on sports specific and injury specific topics. And then also I'd point you towards orthoinfo.org, which is put on by the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgery with some general information about that. injuries.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you so much, doctor. You are really blessed to work for such a wonderful organization. I get to interview Dr. Adzik every year who does, well, you know, probably what he does and he is fascinating to me. Yeah. Isn't he amazing? I just, oh, he's, I love it. Those, that interview that I get with him once a year. All right. So I just want to say thank you for all you do for others and have a great day. Thanks, doctor. Thank you. You We are now going to talk men's health. Movember with an M. Yes, Movember is back with mustaches and a mission. If you're just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. And today we're going to talk about saving lives by changing the way we think about men's health. For more than 20 years now, Movember has been listening to men and the people who love them. And joining us again is Brian Heilman, senior researcher at the Movember Research Institute. Hey, Brian.
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Hey, Angie. It's nice to be back.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nice to have you. All right. So the new report calls men's health a family and a community issue, not just a men's issue. So why is it so important that you make that distinction?
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Yeah, we titled the report The Real Face of Men's Health because we wanted to emphasize that that real face is not just a solitary man in a doctor's office. It's his network of loved ones, people who care about him, right? All of us can think of people we love and care about in our lives, regardless of their gender, where if they're going through a real health crisis, it's obviously going to affect us deeply, whereas if they're thriving and looking after themselves, those positive effects radiate outward as well. The sad truth is that we're losing too many men too soon in this country, and the impacts really ripple out to all of us.
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Let's talk about that. Why are men in the U.S. dying younger than men in other wealthy countries, and what's really driving that?
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The numbers really jump out. I did not expect these numbers when we set out to write this report. We found that 53% of men who died last year in the United States died under the age of 75. And 75 is a kind of standard international marker for premature mortality. So... We can say that in the United States, the majority of men die prematurely, and a lot of those deaths are from preventable causes. You just don't see that in other wealthy, industrialized countries, like that high of a rate of premature death. In fact, the life expectancy for men at the current moment in the United States is about six years shorter than the life expectancy for men in the country where men live the longest. So there really is some troubling trends we need to look at, and given the complexities of the United States, there's no real simple solution to this. We look in the depth of our report into disparities by geography, by demographics, and different kinds of access. But for us, it kind of comes down to that everybody in the country deserves access to high-quality health care, and that means health care that's nearby, that they trust, that they can afford, and not everybody has that. And when you multiply that by men sometimes still feeling a stigma about seeking care, not only for their physical health but also for their mental health, that's certainly part of the puzzle we need to unravel.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I definitely agree with that, a lot of putting things off. By the way, where are men? What areas are men living longer, and does there seem to be a reason? Is it weight, or is there anything that stands out?
SPEAKER 02 :
In the U.S. or elsewhere around the world?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I guess both, yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, like what's interesting in the U.S. too is, and if any of your listeners are interested to read the report, you'll see a bunch of maps in there, and some of those maps look a little bit familiar if you're accustomed to seeing maps of the United States based on the election results or based on economic opportunity or based on different demographic factors, a lot of the states with the lowest net average income or lowest kind of economic opportunity also have a lot of the worst health outcomes. But it's not always a perfect one for one in that way, especially like rates of death by suicide really stand out. The areas of the country with the greatest risk for early death by suicide are actually the more rural Great Plains, Mountain West, communities. And so there's different trends across the country. There's really no single simple story, like I'm saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's interesting. All right. Now you talk in the report about, you know, health disparities and you talk about cultural ideas about masculinity that keep men from seeking care, as you mentioned. I know for our family, there's six of us at our house. I definitely do all the appointments and I schedule the physicals in particular for my husband, but also for my son, who is, you know, 20. I don't think he'd be scheduling physicals on his own, but yeah. I think sometimes you've got to step in and kind of help them. And I know in my dad's case, he would put off any appointment, you know, even when he was having a heart attack, he didn't want the ambulance called. Is that a cultural thing? Like, what's the deal with that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you know, it's a really deep question, Angie, because I feel like, you know, we celebrate people for the sacrifices they make, right? We celebrate men and women alike for sacrificing on behalf of their family or powering through difficult moments. And I think For guys, a lot of times that impulse to show up for your family at all costs, to not be a drain, whatever it is, it kind of can get to an excessive degree where it's ultimately harmful to oneself. I'm actually grateful to see in this report that some of that might be changing just a bit. We shine a light on the fact that On the one hand, these cultural ideas that men should tough it out and walk it off and never admit any weakness, those cultural ideas, unfortunately, still exist. They are alive and well. You might still see them in a movie you watch in the present day. But if you actually talk to guys one-to-one, they're less likely to tell you that that's a personal value that they hold. And guys on their own basis, they're not that indifferent to their health. They might just be... caught up a little bit that they don't know their doctor very well whenever they see the doctor the doctor doesn't have a whole lot of time for them or get to know them as a person above and beyond any symptoms that they bring or they haven't had good health care experiences in the past or they don't want to be a burden to somebody. And so it's those more nuanced kinds of stigmas that we need to be breaking down, I think.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I want to make sure that people know that Movember is a call about action. And for people listening, what is a simple thing that they can do to support men's health as we kind of recognize Movember?
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, the key thing is just opening up the conversation. That's how you break down the stigma. That's how you get out ahead of these prevention issues. And so, Angie, you and I are already practicing it a little bit by talking it through. We can help you have those conversations with our tools and resources available on Movember.com. And that's also where you can access the report in its entirety.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and I love that you brought out, too, just, you know, living longer isn't just, you want to live happier, and the loneliness and depression, I'm really glad to know that people are reaching out, and I think it helps that they can do things virtually as well. They don't have to necessarily go into an office, so that's great. Okay, give us the information again to contact and get more info.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Please visit Movember.com to learn more about our entire movement, access the report, and tools that might help you in those conversations.
SPEAKER 06 :
Excellent. Brian, thank you for all you're doing for others. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you.

In this episode of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast, Dana dives deep into some of the most bizarre and thought-provoking news out of Florida, including an outrageous story of parenting gone wrong. She raises the question: are we getting the whole story or is there more to these absurd headlines? Dana also takes a critical look at political figure Marjorie Taylor Greene's recent statements on labor and immigration. Through analysis and humor, Dana breaks down the implications of shifting political allegiances and labor dynamics.
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Liberty Nation with Mark Angelides.
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Passing the Mamdani numbers. What does AOC's future have in store? Can Chuck Schumer hold on? All this and a great deal more analysis on Liberty Nation Radio this week.
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Author, columnist, managing editor of LibertyNation.com. Podcast host and conservative policy advocate. We dismiss history at our peril. Liberty Nation with Mark Angelides.
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Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast, sponsored by Kel-Tec.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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All right, we are going all the way to the very end of the list for our first headline because I've been waiting all weekend to talk about this headline. Florida parents left a 16-year-old by the side of the road with a bag of guns and said, go on and fend for yourself, say police. Now, the parents have too many damn names, Kane. Bradley, Leon, Guerrero, Santos. Now, you get three. Stop it. OK, so you can be Bradley Leon Guerrero. Santos is his last name. So he's got to drop either Leon or Guerrero. It's too damn many names. And then Rosanella Boya, 35, are facing child neglect charges. They were near Sarasota. There was a 911 call on October 1st about a suspicious male who was walking on the side of Interstate 75. When police approached, the boy reluctantly identified himself as, you know, this is his parents kid. And he said when he got home from school that day, his parents told him they were taking a trip. He went walk the dog. He saw them throwing like. clothes into duffel bags and then they rushed him and his eight-year-old sibling into the car he said that their destination was quote either guam or idaho and he didn't want to go so that's when they kicked him out of the car left him with two pistols in a bag and some cash and then they told him to take care of the house and that was it they were arrested clearly uh he said his father's very religious often gives him difficult tasks to test his mental fortitude. And they said that they told the son that he was the chosen one. I don't know. Like part of me is like, that's a really good idea. No, I'm joking. Part of me is like, you know, scared straight. Maybe. I don't know. Are we getting the full story?
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It's just like throwing your kids in the pool to teach them how to swim. It's kind of like that.
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Yeah. With a bag of guns and some cash, you know, on the side of a highway. I mean, why didn't they just leave him at the house? Why did they take him? That doesn't make any sense. So they're charged with child neglect also because there were pistols that they left the 16 year old with. They got they got another charge for that. So it was like a minor to access a firearm, something of that nature. I just think that there are ways that you can instruct kids on this type of thing without throwing them on the side of the road at like the middle of the night and then leaving him and no, he has no way of contacting anybody. nothing he had no phone nothing so just saying there's probably better ways to do it but also at the same time i'm like you know how many people had family that's like would you know put them in the woods and say okay come back in an hour i mean in sweden they let their kids sleep outside in snow drifts so just saying all right uh let's see a florida man smacks people with a metal shelf in a public's fight Publix fight. This is a new thing. All right. So a brawl began inside a Miami-Dade Publix, and there is video footage per the New York Post. The shirtless Florida man, who was also shoeless, grabbed, I guess he took apart an end cap. on an aisle and then started like beating people with the metal shelf. There were large parties of people that broke out after an aggressive verbal argument and then that turned then physical. Yeah, this looks bad. The half-naked man, Clement Mann, C-L-I-M-O-N-T, two N's. He picked up one of the shelves from the end cap and started whacking two women brawling on the ground. I don't even know who's at fault here. I really don't. Just arrest everybody because it looks like everybody's involved in doing something. Look, don't tear apart store shelves at a Publix and beat each other with the shelving. I mean, it goes without saying for most of us, but some people, they need the reminder. Folks who help bring you the program, Caltech's KS7 Gen 2 Shotgun. It is one of the latest upgrades. you got a ks7 gen 2 you got five slot picatinny rail style rail uh you can add all kinds of grips lights you can keep it flush and sleek it's a smoother pump action shotgun for faster cleaner cycling you got enhanced durability as all of the original ks7 advantages super lightweight and just under seven pounds unloaded compact bullpup design so you got a lot of I mean, it's great for tight spaces, right? It's a lot of maneuverability in tight spaces, ambidextrous downward shell ejection, 7 plus 1 capacity for stopping power, all of that. You can also get the Defender package. There's a lot of cool things that come along with that. MSRP for this, only $639. It's from Kel-Tec, made in America, Florida-based. K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com. It's the KS7 Gen 2. Tell them Dana sent you.
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As a conservative and as a business owner in the construction industry and as a realist, I can say we have to do something about labor. And that needs to be a smarter plan than just rounding up every single person and deporting them just like that.
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Hmm. She's doing a slow shift to the left. I mean, it's like I think you made the point we're sort of like taking we're getting Fetterman and they're getting her because this is not the first time that she's sort of been sliding to the left on some stuff, especially judging by where she used to be previously on this. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this third hour. That was Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was saying that, well, we've got to do something about labor that needs to be a smarter plan than rounding people up and deporting them. Well, I'm still all about deporting people, so I don't. I mean, if you're America First, then you're also in support of ensuring that those who entered illegally and skirted accountability and responsibility aren't rewarded. That seems pretty forthright. She's getting a lot of I think she's getting a lot of criticism about this, though. Understandably, it does seem like a leftist position. She's saying, well, you know, as a works as a, you know, in construction, she what is she talking about? Labor, cheap labor. So what did seem like she was kind of alluding to, right? I don't know. What is your thought on it, Cain? You think she's alluding to cheap labor?
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Would she not want to round everyone up who entered her home illegally? Like, is she being inconsistent there? Because if someone came in my house uninvited, I'd be all active in rounding them up and getting them out, or... ending their life, whatever.
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I mean, didn't she say as a construction business owner, she's saying, I don't think we should just like, basically it sounds like she's saying we, I don't, I'm not in favor of deporting illegals that.
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I don't like to inject meaning where, but that's what it sounds like. It sure sounds like that.
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I mean, that's what it does sound like that. That's what it sounds like. She's saying, well, as a business owner, a realist, we have to do something about labor and that needs to be a smarter plan than just rounding up. Okay. So what, It's also very different from how she started, I have to say. It sounds very different from how she started. There has to be a consequence or a penalty of importing people in just simply to reduce the price of labor. Let's think about that for a minute. There has to be a smarter plan. mitigate labor costs than just importing in people that you think can do it at a cheaper price how about that for starters you see what i mean it's like it's a shift left but without the intelligence behind it and i'm not saying i don't really believe that there's an intelligence behind some of the positions on the left but that would be a more i mean it's still wrong but it would be a more reasonable position than what she just said doesn't make any sense I mean, that's exactly what it is. Yes, opposition to deportation because you don't support the importation of cheap labor illegally. That is actually a smart plan. That is a smart way. Did you people think this was going to be easy? Did you think that correcting decades of dissent into madness was going to be easy? Did you think that it was just everyone can sit on their ass and the hard work will get done because somebody will do it, but not going to be me, not going to affect me, not going to affect my bottom line? I mean, for real, is that what people, do they think that? I mean, I got questions about this. Cut 28. This is Don Lemon. He was in Chicago and he was attempting to talk to people about border crossing illegally and arguing with them that it's not a crime. He didn't fare so well in this exchange. Listen.
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Okay, crossing the border illegally is not a crime?
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No, it's not a criminal act. It's a misdemeanor.
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So why are they being sent back and saying that they're breaking the law?
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That's the point. Okay, as somebody that... We don't know if they're breaking the law because they won't tell. There's no due process. Where's the evidence? That's the whole point. And if they are breaking the law, most people will say, okay, then they need to go if they're criminals. But if they're not, why are they being rounded up and sent out? Especially when he promised to deport the criminals. And now he's not doing that.
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I don't think we're going to... Misdemeanor is not a crime. So misdemeanor is not a criminal act?
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It's not a criminal act, no. If you get charged with a misdemeanor, that's not a criminal act.
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What the hell is a fucking charge at all then? If it's not a criminal act?
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Because we have different levels of crime. Everything is not the same.
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So it is crime? No. It's just a different level.
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We have different levels of... I shouldn't say crime, but it's not a crime. You're not breaking the law.
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A misdemeanor of what? Why is it called a misdemeanor? What's this cause? A misdemeanor of what? Why is it called a misdemeanor? Oh, for the love, dude. My dude. Come on. It is. That doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. I just I still, you know, some of the people on the right, especially those who are in the MTG camp, like what? Again, I go back to how easy do they think this is going to be? I mean, it's not going to be comfortable to get back on the track that we need to get on. It's not going to be comfortable because there are hard decisions that have to be made. And, you know, the whole purpose was to get to this point so that we could make these decisions and then put those decisions in motion, the result of that. Good night. It's just bizarre. It's bizarre. Our partners that bring you the program, the folks at All Family Pharmacy, love the folks at All Family Pharmacy. I actually had to use them again. So my son who is in college ended up getting strep throat. And he was able to get medication in there, but I wanted to be able to get him something that helps his throat, right? You can get, I think it's like, I can't pronounce it properly. It's like Benzonatate or whatever. You know what it is, Cain. This is one of the things you can get at All Family Pharmacy. You go in, you fill out, you pick what you need, you answer some questions, the doctor reviews your request. issues of prescription and your medicines are sent in as fast as like two to four days or overnighted in a pinch if you need it. And they have literally everything. NAD plus, they have ivermectin. They've got all of the antibiotics that you need. The azithromycin, the amoxicillin, stuff I can't pronounce. A lot of things I can't pronounce. Your everyday medications, emergency kits, everything. Ladies, you can get Latisse for your eyelashes. So you don't have to worry about doing the tube and mascara or getting them extensions. You get you some Latisse at All Family Pharmacy. I mean, literally everything. Here's the other part that I love. Everything is made in the USA. I don't know of any other pharmacy where you're getting all the precursors for this stuff and the final product, all USA made. You can stock up today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, where I am a huge customer, and I use my own name, Dana10, as my code, because that's how you get 10% off. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10 for 10% off.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Diane Keaton passed away. That kind of came out of nowhere. Yeah. I don't know much about her, but apparently they said that she'd put her house up for sale. Her health had declined very suddenly in recent months, and she was apparently very thin. But that's kind of sad. She was 79 years old. October 11th is when they announced it. Also, let's see. They're saying, are we heading for a big crash? I'm not even going to read this headline because it's so stupid. It makes me want to break everything and just go back to bed. I just want to break everything, throw things around because I'm so tired of these stupid headlines. I don't like Trump, so I'm going to write something stupid about the economy. That's what they do. That's what these things are. That's what it is. Kane, am I wrong? No, Dana, you're so right. You're so right. It's just painful. See, that's your sentiment.
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It doesn't hurt. There's no pain in it.
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I don't want to read on this one either. What in the world? So this guy is at St. Peter's Basilica and he... Drops trout and urinates inside St. Peter's Basilica. And, of course, all the tourists are shocked. It was on a Vatican altar during they were having mass. But he did that. And I just, like, I know exactly where they did it. How does someone do this? Like, they were able to get him. He was unidentified. And he climbed the steps. I know nothing about this. I'm just reading it as it is from the Sun, British paper. It's this altar of confession. It's one of the most sacred spots in Catholicism. And it's where the Pope himself traditionally celebrates Mass. And then that's when he dropped Trow and decided to take a leak. It was during the 9 a.m. Mass. And the crowd was just... I think most of them didn't know what they were seeing. Or they were trying to figure out, are we seeing what we're seeing? Because there were those expressions too. But security was able to get him out. That's just... Can you imagine how to clean that? It's so gross. Why are people nasty? So this guy, a dad, according to New York Post, this is a dad who was charged with killing his 14-year-old daughter's rapist, and he's now running for sheriff. I'd vote for him. Oh, in a heartbeat. I don't know that I could. I mean, I'd vote for him. He's accused of killing his 14-year-old daughter's rapist. He said the legal system failed him because they charged him with murder. Now, I know you shouldn't be a vigilante, but this is what happens when you have lawlessness and disorder. If you don't like vigilantism, then I suggest you stop with the restorative justice. Because injustice, this sort of injustice, like what was perpetrated upon this family... That's exactly what it is. It's injustice. That's also lawlessness and vigilantism, really. He was charged with second-degree murder, so he ran for sheriff in Linote County, Arkansas. He launched his campaign. And he said the campaign is about every parent, you know, who's basically not able to protect their family because of the state. And it's true. He says he wants to restore his bid and the trust in law enforcement. But he killed the guy when he found him in a truck. I mean, he was raping his daughter and the guy had already apparently been charged multiple times for sexual offenses. And he said he forced him off the road and shot him. Now, again, you don't like vigilantism. Maybe stop the restorative justice that allows these people to get away with this stuff. More on that coming up. Stick with us. I want to switch gears. Cut 43. Mark Ruffalo, who I just find him to be insufferable. He's always super negative. It seems like he is the worst aspects of his character, the Hulk, but without the ability to actually turn into a giant green thing. But he's goes on this rant. against capitalism. The guy who makes millions of dollars per movie in Hollywood goes on a rant against capitalism and wants to replace it with socialism. Listen.
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What do we do to make life better for everybody? We certainly have enough. I mean, we just created the most number of billionaires in the history of the world. You know, we have enough. We could do this, but it's going to take some reimagining of what America is, what our economic system is.
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What's clear is it's not working and it's not sustainable. Actually, when our founding fathers set this up, they had the national motto of E Pluribus Unum out of many ones. And we've never achieved that.
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Oh, my gosh. OK, sorry, Juan. We're going to not make it past that. Oh, my gosh. You absolute walking mental abortion. Do you not understand what that means? It doesn't mean everybody. Socialism, guys. Time for socialism. I mean, I'm interpreting it literally. E pluribus unum. That means socialism. It means from many one, meaning from many who seek liberty, from many who seek freedom. You have one voice, and that is that animating spirit of liberty that unites us and defines us. Talk about historical illiterates, people who literally are unfamiliar with anything that the founders ever said, anything that they ever wrote, any of the debates that they had in the Freedom Hall, any of it. That is just asinine. It's not pointing to socialism. It's pointing to a unification behind the spirit of liberty. I'm sorry. Was there a lot more of that to play? Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. I was just was not going to wasn't going to happen. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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Out of many one. Yes. And we've never achieved that. Well, there's a long time. We didn't even vaguely even strive for that. But we can still strive for the vision of America, the promise of America.
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We still have that. We have that promise in our DNA. Someone slipped that in there, which creates a possibility for it, right? That's like the moment we're in right now. It's physics. Things have got to come to a point where there's so much movement. It's chaotic. It's chaotic. It's chaotic. Boom. Something new comes out of it. Water to steam. There's no other way to actually change. And that's painful. It's like giving birth. I mean, birth is painful. It's dark.
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We don't know.
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It's scary. Will it ever end?
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You know, it's like the same. It's just like being in college and you go out to eat with some friends and then two of your friends get super drunk at dinner and then they just sit there and they never shut up at the end of the table. And they're like, we're going to solve the world's problems. They go on endlessly before it ends up devolving into some kind of like conspiracy theory deep dive. That's what that conversation was, Cain. I mean, I think that's a pretty accurate.
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Yeah, that music. Whoever decided to put the music.
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Whoever put that stupid music. I want to find them and swing them around by the hair on their head until their scalp falls off.
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Not only is it annoying, but I guess they were trying to impose an emotional lane you were supposed to be in while listening to this rubbish. Fury.
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Yeah. What? Yeah. What? We're going to put we're going to drop this annoying music, this Amelie type music here and try to make people feel sad about these morons talking. Mark Ruffalo, a guy who I don't think what he's like, we're going to reimagine what America is like, what our economic system is like. It's clearer. I mean, it's like not like working like and like sustainable, like, you know. And then you have Rainn Wilson, who only sounds intelligent when other people write his lines. Like, yeah, it's E Pluribus Unum. It's exactly cement socialism. Oh, my gosh. Mark Ruffalo is worth like $35 million, something to that extent. I don't know. And he's worth a lot of money. And he has over and over again, he's gone after wealthy people or just like people who like himself, right? He's mad at everybody except himself that makes money. I don't know. I've read that it's like $35 million, but then someone else, some other estimate said that, Fox Baltimore said that it was like closer to $90 million. Anyway, he's all into the no king stuff. And He does not like people who are, he only wants to be successful himself. This is how communists think. They want to be rich, but they want you to be poor because they think that there's a scarcity of opportunity and they don't want to have to share influence with you. They want to gatekeep and keep you away from all of it. So they impose these asinine, mathematically illiterate regulations to keep you broke and to keep them rich. They are literally everything that they talk about hating, but it's all in one person, which is them. That's what it is. That's who these people are. To hear somebody like $90 million Mark Ruffalo up there complaining, I'm just so rich people. Oh, it's insane. We got to replace capitalism with socialism. Well, there goes your whole industry, dude. Got to replace capitalism. Socialism is what people who are tired of working or they don't want to work and they want to be lazy. They want that so that they can coast on everyone else's effort. You know, we're getting near Thanksgiving, so what we do every Thanksgiving, I mean, near, yes, it's next month. We always talk about how, you know, the first society set up, established by Europeans in the United States was a socialist society that completely failed and everyone almost died. They almost died because of starvation, because they tried the socialism and the socialism didn't work. So then they had to switch over and actually try to make people work of their own merit. And that was much better. They were much more successful. Mark Ruffalo just hates America. He hates everything that this country is about. He doesn't like our freedom. He doesn't like even the crony capitalist system that we have in this society. He hates every aspect of it, even though he has benefited more so than many other people in this country from the very things that he bitches about. And he's it's only from that safety of success and that surety of success that he can blast the system that he was able without any complaint prior to use to enrich himself. So I can never take these people seriously. They always bitch and moan, and they sit on all their millions. Did Mark Ruffalo buy any of you a house? No. Did he pay off any of y'all's mortgage? Hell no. He pay off any of y'all's health bills? No, he didn't. Did he all give y'all any money? No, he didn't. Did he pay off a bill for you? No, no, he didn't. Not a single.
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So he didn't even inspire me to do any of those things.
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Yeah. So he's just a poser. That's all he is. Just like Bernie Sanders, three house Bernie Sanders. They're posers. I can't take any of these people seriously. They don't even live by the tenets of socialism that they pretend to adore. And nobody questions it because they're all in this cult of personality. They're so busy kissing ass. They don't even stop and go, wait a minute. Why aren't they living by the rules that they want everybody else to live by? Great question there, champ. Just asinine. Just so asinine. So I don't know. These people, I can't take any of them seriously at all. I can't take any of them seriously.
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This episode of Liberty Nation Radio with Mark Angelides and The Dana Show dives deep into one of the most consequential geopolitical shifts in recent memory: President Trump’s trip to Egypt, the resulting peace summit, and the unprecedented hostage release in Gaza. Dana walks listeners through how this 20-point peace plan was set in motion years earlier—when Trump reconfigured Middle Eastern alliances, stripped Iran of air defenses, and leveraged “peace through strength” to bring Hamas to the table.
She sharply contrasts this decisive strategy with the “weak-kneed” approaches of Macron, Starmer, and Carney, whose premature recognition of Palestinian statehood nearly derailed negotiations. The program also covers the Qatar Air Force training controversy in Idaho, the ongoing U.S. government shutdown, a sharp takedown of Mark Ruffalo’s socialism comments, and a string of headline-grabbing Quick Five stories—from Vatican vandalism to Florida Man antics.
With fiery commentary and historical framing, this episode connects foreign policy breakthroughs to broader ideological battles in the West, emphasizing strength, realism, and unapologetic defense of Western principles.
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Author, columnist, managing editor of LibertyNation.com. Podcast host and conservative policy advocate. We dismiss history at our peril. Liberty Nation with Mark Angelides.
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So now we're going to forge a future that is worthy of our heritage. We're going to build a legacy that all the people of this region can be proud of. New bonds of friendship, cooperation, and commerce will join Tel Aviv to Dubai, Haifa to Beirut, Jerusalem to Damascus, and from Israel to Egypt, from Saudi Arabia to Qatar, from India to Pakistan, from Indonesia to Iraq, From Syria to Bahrain, Turkey to Jordan, the United Arab Emirates to Oman and Armenia to Azerbaijan, another war that I just settled. We are going to have hope, harmony, opportunity and happiness here in the spiritual and geographic center of the entire world. That's what you are. Israel, America and all of the nations of the Middle East will soon be safer, stronger, greater and more prosperous than ever before. And I want to thank you all once again for this exceptional honor. This has been truly an honor. It's seldom that a president is invited to do this. And I love Israel. I'm with you all the way. You will be bigger, better, stronger, and more loving than ever before.
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Thank you very much. Huge, huge, huge. So this was a significant achievement that We are going to follow today because POTUS is in the Middle East. He's in Egypt right now. And as we told you last week and had a piece up at Substack about this, he was going to be traveling over there. They have a peace summit. He's going to be traveling over there, also going to be signing, etc. And the signing, it's very interesting watching this. I've got a million different points that I want to spit out of my head all at once. So welcome to the program. It's Monday, top of this first hour with you, Dana Lash. The chat's at Rumble. You can channel 347 DirecTV. You can watch the radio show. So the... Hostages, the 13 remaining hostages, they were released. And of course, it was with all the fanfare that you can imagine Hamas orchestrating. And this was point one of this Gazan peace plan. And a lot of these hostages have been returned. There's all kinds of amazing video. showcasing what it was like when they were reunited with their families that they haven't seen for two years, over two years now. And incredibly significant. And I think that this is perhaps, well, the first time in two years, correct. I mean, there were 13 that were let go. I think this is maybe the biggest deal or the best deal that Trump has done of his life. Wouldn't you say so? I mean, it sounds weird to talk about it like that, and I don't mean to lessen it by saying that. However, think about how many times they have tried to, and by they, I mean the succession of Western leaders, have tried to calm tensions and bring this to a halt in Gaza. I mean, it's forever. I remember back when Gosh, I was a kid, and I was having a sleepover with my friends, and we would stay up and watch MTV. And do you remember that song, all we're saying is give peace a chance, you know, that whole, they redid it, John and Yoko's song, they redid it, and they had all these different celebrities. And I remember thinking at the time, oh, it has to do with something over in the Middle East. I mean, they've been warring over there forever. And then, of course, with the creation of the Strip, then Israel's unilateral withdrawal, and it just never stopped. They just kept, I mean, you had Islamists that just kept warring. So this is incredibly significant. We're going to dive into this. And I don't even know how, if you are, even in the progressive press, how you don't give POTUS a hat tip over this. But just some pretty stunning scenes. I am a little ticked off, which I'm not going to talk about immediately. We're going to get into that as the program goes. But... I saw Mark Carney and Keir Starmer arrive. So all of these world, all of these Western leaders are showing up and they're going to the peace summit. And they had what they call their class photo. So you had Maloney, you had Macron, you had Viktor Orban, who was there as well. And when I saw Carney and Starmer walking together, my first thought was, why are these losers showing up here? Why are these rat bastard, spineless losers showing up here along with Macron? Because those clowns did everything possible to stymie these negotiations. Those clowns did everything possible to drag this out for as long as it could be dragged out for. They did everything possible through their ineptness and their stupidity. to nearly derail this whole thing multiple times. And I want to point out something also, that Trump was able to bring the remaining hostages back and has been able to negotiate this up to this point, which is further than anybody has, without bending a knee to Hamas and rewarding them by recognizing the creation of an independent Gazan state. Carney did it. Starmer did it. Macron did it. I mean, we can tick off the long list of leaders that have done this. But Trump didn't do it. And it all goes back to the strikes in Iran, which we're going to talk about because this is peace through strength. Absolutely. And it's pretty amazing that And we've got a lot of audio for you today. I wanted to throw up this, and this is something that Rubio actually had echoed. I don't know what soundbite this is because we have 11,000 soundbites. What cut is this? If not, then we'll go back to it. So this was Rubio saying that it was really, you know, when you think about the continuation of the ceasefire, you know, Britain and France. Remember when they just stomped into it and recognized, said we're going to recognize the creation of an independent state? Well, that threw a loop in these negotiations. Rubio touches on that here. This is huge.
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Listen. Have you noticed that the talks with Hamas fell apart on the day Macron made the unilateral decision that he's going to recognize a Palestinian state? And then you have other people come forward. Other countries say, well, there's not a ceasefire by September. We're going to recognize a Palestinian state. Well, I'm Hamas. I basically conclude let's not do a ceasefire because we can be rewarded. And we can claim it as a victory. So those messages, while largely symbolic in their minds, actually have made it harder to get peace and harder to achieve a deal with Hamas. They feel emboldened.
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It did. They absolutely felt emboldened. I mean, they were getting recognized with their own state. That's insane. They were getting recognized with their own state, getting rewarded, awarding that atrocity. But Hamas finally gave up the Romanian living hostages. And they parted with I think that was the only leverage that they had left. They have no more leverage now. And how how let's go back to what happened in Iran. And specifically, I would say even before the strikes in Iran. I know a lot of talking heads are out there like, oh, it's the strikes in Iran. Let's go back before that, though. This actually was won before that. Do you know when this conflict was won? This conflict was won when Trump went to the Middle East. This conflict was won when Trump went to the Middle East and when he was meeting with the Emiratis, he was meeting with the Saudis. That is when this conflict was won. And I'll never forget. And I told you this. I told you at the time that it happened. And I still look back on it now and I say the same thing. I think it was one of the most significant moments in history of Middle East conflict when Trump was up on stage and he was talking about the normalization now that Syria got rid of Assad. And yes, they got a warlord there. But again, you know, not every nation is going to be like the United States, the democratic processes in a republic. But the guy that they got in was less attuned to Iran and more attuned to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. And remember when Trump was on stage and he said that he was going to roll back those sanctions on Syria now and open the door for investment. Now, at that point, you had all of these other Middle Eastern nations that did not want to run afoul of sanctions with the United States and get hit themselves in the process. You know, they didn't want to be they didn't want to be party to that. So they they waited. They waited and they waited. And so when Trump got up on stage and he said that they were rolling back the sanctions, they were going to normalize these relations with Syria. Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, stood up and applauded. And then everyone else stood up and applauded. That was significant because and then the airstrikes came after. Now, how were those airstrikes so successful? Because Syria stopped providing air defense for Iran. So Iran's skies were wide open. And that those strikes would not have been successful in the manner that they were had that not happened. That's when Trump won the conflict in the Middle East. I told you at the time that is beyond significant. That's the most important moment, perhaps, in this whole thing. And lo and behold. After the visit, when you had the strikes that took place, Syria did not any longer provide air defense for Iran. So Iran's skies were left wide open to be dominated by Israel. The moment was made possible by that visit in the Middle East. which was probably one of the most successful visits that a sitting president has had going over to the Middle East and negotiating. This wasn't like one of those things with Joe Biden where it was hat in hand. You know, please sell us some crude. It wasn't anything like that. This was a very significant meeting. And they knew Egypt and Qatar, they were telling Hamas, look, this is your last chance to end this. It is your last chance to end it. That's it. Turkey even said, look, Hamas better be that y'all better be approving this plan or you will be stripped of every association, every bit of diplomatic assistance, every bit of political assistance. Qatar and Turkey, we will not hold where they said that you're not going to host. We're not going to host your political leadership anymore. Egypt will no longer contend and argue for Hamas to have a say in Gaza's governance post-war. Wall Street Journal reported today that Trump left them no choice. He cut out every diplomatic and military route that they had. And they were under immense pressure from their hosts. And as a result... this is what's been happening. Pretty amazing. We got more on this as we roll into headlines in the bottom of this first hour. We got more on the way as we rolled awards headlines. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Preborn. They're there saving babies' lives, and they've been doing such a great job at it, and also meeting women where they are to do so. Even though you've had this, the decision as it relates to Roe v. Wade, you still have the problem of the abortion pill, which is now Like something like over 60% of medical, this medication is used for abortions now for over 60% of abortions. And abortion is still the leading cause of death globally, last measured in 2023. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 22 :
So Diane Keaton passed away. That kind of came out of nowhere. I don't know much about her, but apparently they said that she'd put her house up for sale. Her health had declined very suddenly in recent months, and she was apparently very thin. But that's kind of sad. She was 79 years old. October 11th is when they announced it. Also, let's see. They're saying, are we heading for a big crash? I'm not even going to read this headline because it's so stupid. It makes me want to break everything and just go back to bed. I just want to break everything, throw things around because I'm so tired of these stupid headlines. I don't like Trump, so I'm going to write something stupid about the economy. That's what they do. That's what these things are. That's what it is. Kane, am I wrong? No, Dana, you're so right. You're so right. It's just painful. See, that's your sentiment.
SPEAKER 16 :
It doesn't hurt. There's no pain in it.
SPEAKER 22 :
I don't want to read on this one either. What in the world? So this guy is at St. Peter's Basilica and he... Drops trowel and urinates inside St. Peter's Basilica. And, of course, all the tourists are shocked. It was on a Vatican altar during they were having mass. But he did that. And I just, like, I know exactly where they did it. How did someone do this? Like, they were able to get him. He was unidentified. And he climbed the steps. I know nothing about this. I'm just reading it as it is from the Sun, British paper. It's this altar of confession. It's one of the most sacred spots in Catholicism. And it's where the Pope himself traditionally celebrates Mass. And then that's when he dropped Trow and decided to take a leak. It was during the 9 a.m. Mass. And the crowd was just... I think most of them didn't know what they were seeing. Or they were trying to figure out, are we seeing what we're seeing? Because there were those expressions too. But security was able to get him out. That's just... Can you imagine how to clean that? It's so gross. Why are people nasty? So this guy, a dad, according to New York Post, this is a dad who was charged with killing his 14-year-old daughter's rapist, and he's now running for sheriff. I'd vote for him. Oh, in a heartbeat. I don't know that I could. I mean, I'd vote for him. He's accused of killing his 14-year-old daughter's rapist. He said the legal system failed him because they charged him with murder. Now, I know you shouldn't be a vigilante, but this is what happens when you have lawlessness and disorder. If you don't like vigilantism, then I suggest you stop with the restorative justice. Because injustice, this sort of injustice, like what was perpetrated upon this family, is that's exactly what it is. It's injustice. That's also lawlessness and vigilantism, really. He was charged with second degree murder. So he ran for sheriff in Linote County, Arkansas. He launched his campaign. And he said the campaign is about every parent, you know, who's basically not able to protect their family because of the state. And it's true. He says he wants to restore his bid and the trust in law enforcement. But he killed the guy when he found him in a truck. I mean, he was raping his daughter and the guy had already apparently been charged multiple times for sexual offenses. And he said he forced him off the road and shot him. Now, again, you don't like vigilantism. Maybe stop the restorative justice that allows these people to get away with this stuff. More on that coming up. Stick with us as we move. Our partners who are bringing the program. It's the folks at Ammo Squared. Gosh, you remember how everybody was freaking out during the. WooFlu for ammo. There was no ammo anywhere. And if you could find it, it was super expensive. There were empty shelves. The prices were sky high. The regret was just awful. You don't want to ever allow yourself to be in that position again. Ammo Squared is the country's ammunition reserve. It's a worry-free solution to stockpiling your ammo for the future and avoid getting caught empty-handed. They have over 70 calibers. You can set your monthly budget. Let them curate your supply automatically. Forget it. Set it. Forget it. Ship it when you need it. They have a secure climate-controlled facility so your ammo is kept fresh and safe until you decide to get it delivered. There's no minimums, no hidden fees, and you get free shipping on orders over $2.50. That's awesome. And it's great if you want to try out new calibers or if you just want to top off some of your training rounds. And you can even get alerts that will notify you if there's something you're looking for. If you need to get a certain kind or whatever, you can be alerted. But there's over 100,000 members of this, of Ammo Squared. And they have thousands of five-star reviews. Your readiness is their mission. Visit AmmoSquared.com for a special offer and secure your ammo supply for the future. Don't get caught without ammo. Visit AmmoSquared.com. And keep yourself fully stocked and tell them that you heard it from The Dana Show.
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SPEAKER 22 :
I'm looking at how some of the hostages that were released, like one of the gentlemen who was forced to dig his own grave. You might remember that hostage. He's now back with his family today. He was released. He was one of those who were released. Pretty amazing sights. Here's some of the footage of these hostages who are being reunited. Can you imagine being kept together? And what I'm reading their conditions and some of the stuff that happened. I mean, it's rough. It's bad. And they're now back with their families. We have what cut 12. This guy dollar was reunited with his family after two years. Goodness. Can you imagine not seeing your loved one for two years? Two years. And they're all so thin. Oh my gosh, they're all thin. They were starved and tortured. I can't even imagine what the rehab, not just talking about physical rehabilitation, but mental rehabilitation from what Hamas put them through, what that's going to be like. My goodness. Just two years. You know, Hamas could have done this from the get-go. First off, they could have not violated the ceasefire on October 7th, but they could have released all of these hostages. But that's never what they wanted to do. Cut 13, another hostage reunited with his parents. Again, two years kept in these dark tunnels. Having to dig their own grave, being tortured, being denied food, water. And they're all so thin. Some more than others. But they're all so incredibly thin. I mean, it is just heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. And you have cut 15. Yosef Ohana's father. I remember this guy when he was doing interviews. This is cut 14 when he reunited with his son. And just wild. Two years. The family's getting ready to meet with him now. But just amazing stuff. Okay, I thought we were going to see the reunification here. There it is. Gosh, and they're so young. Like, this young man's so young. I can't believe audio cut 11. What... I mean, I almost couldn't believe this cut. I saw this earlier. So Abby Phillips, CNN, actually, well, how do I even set it up, Cain? She was critical of Obama because Obama did not give Trump credit for this deal.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's fair.
SPEAKER 13 :
Kind of shocking. Listen to this. President Obama put out this post talking about the peace deal and the prospects of it. And Don Jr. responded to it. I'll finish it for you. Thank you, Donald Trump. Honestly, it's not unfair to say if President Obama is going to write a whole post about a peace deal, maybe he should acknowledge the president that brokered it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Why is that so odd to hear?
SPEAKER 22 :
So, Cain, you guys obviously manipulated this audio, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, we sure did not.
SPEAKER 22 :
Wow. I mean, it's obvious. And this was a negotiation of peace through strength. I mean, that's exactly what this was. Now, remember, too, the other part of it was when the heads of some of these Hamas generals were hit in Doha. And that's when Qatar really, it became very real for them. Like, there's nothing that's going to shield us. We need to get on the right side here. Nothing's going to shield us from this. And I think that also contributed to this. There's a lot of things, peace through strength. And Hamas finally caved. Finally caved. They've been under they started being feeling the pressure from Turkey. They started feeling the pressure from Qatar. They started feeling the pressure from Egypt. And notice, too, nobody else wants to take them. Think about this every single time, whether you had Egypt, whether you've had Lebanon, whether you've had Jordan, because these are mostly Jordanians. When they have when any of these neighboring like previously, when they've been when they've accepted Gazans within their country, what happened? The Gazans within their country, they decided to foment civil war and they paid for it. Those countries paid for it in blood by allowing those people in. Because you're talking about generations of people who have been raised to hate everyone around them and play into the victim complex. And the United States was the only country with balls that decided that they were not going to play into this narrative. Peace through strength gets results. Kowtowing to this nonsense like Joe Biden did, like Democrats want to do, doesn't achieve anything. Mark Carney, the little weasel in Canada, didn't achieve anything. He rewarded them, and he almost ruined the negotiations because he stomped out there like a toddler and was like, well, we're going to recognize their statehood. Same thing with Keir Starmer. Meathead goes out there, we're going to recognize their statehood, and almost derailed negotiations. And Hamas knows... That they have been kneecapped in all this. Now, you know how I told you when they would bring out the, you know, usually previously when they would bring out the hostages, they have this like big, it was this like weird thing that they do. Like the last time that they released hostages, remember they had a little square and their little gauze and the little gauze and square and they brought the. hostages in their coffins and they had some of the I think members of the Beavis family mislabeled they had just a random woman in the and Sherry Beavis's box and they had this big ceremony etc they didn't do that this time they didn't have a propaganda ceremony interesting what they did is they were trying to turn the knife one last time before they handed the hostages over and They made video calls to the relatives of the hostages and they had the hostages stand by their masked Hamas captors while they were making these video calls to the families. So they were trying to turn the knife like at one in some way, but they didn't have the big theatrical propaganda ceremony. And this Hamas guaranteed its demise with October 7th. And now they don't have hostages and IDF. I mean, they have to they have to comply or they're annihilated. And remember, this was just one of a 20 point plan. They have to disarm. They have to leave. And if they don't, Trump's washing his hands of it. And he's saying, Israel, you do whatever you got to do. And I'm going to tell you now what this achieves. You're not going to have the carnies and the starmers in the Israeli parliament's ear anymore whispering, oh, you need to hold back. You need to hold back because look what they were able to secure by by not doing that and actually listening to the United States on this. The peace through strength secured what they wanted. Now they have a direct comparison. This way gets results. The Biden, Carney, Macron, Starmer way does not. They've lost all influence now. They are meaningless. I don't even know why they're at this event. Did you notice that, too, Cain, they were standing at this event and Trump was standing there and they were all coming up and shaking his hand one after the other. I thought that was very interesting because he's in Egypt and they all came forward and they were shaking his hand one by one like he was the host and everyone was coming to pay their due.
SPEAKER 16 :
And then they lined up for a photo. Macron was in the back. Historic photo. It's so good.
SPEAKER 22 :
He was all the way in the back. He was all the way in the back. And I... It's really amazing to see all of this. Now, the other part of this, and this is the one I don't really like. So, for the hostages, Israel has to release some of the terrorists. And they are terrorists. I want to be very careful in my word choice here. The... Prisoners, the terrorist prisoners that Israel has in custody are terrorist prisoners. And that is... That's exactly. I mean, I was looking at some of the names and reading the descriptions of those who are being released. These are people who have blown up, you know, innocent women and children because they they wanted to shoot, stab, go on stabbing sprees. You also have people that helped orchestrate suicide bombings, things like that. This is those those sorts of offenses. Those are some of the people that are going to be released to Hamas and Gaza. There's about two, almost 2,000 of them. Well, about nearly 2,000 of them. And the people who are, like, for instance, one guy who's being released, Hilmi Muhammad Hamash, he coordinated a suicide bombing on a bus in Jerusalem and killed 11, wounded 50. He is one of the ones that Hamas once returned. Murad Adals, in 2016, he stabbed a 38-year-old mother of six in front of her children at the entrance to her home. He's one that Hamas has demanded be released. Those are the people that they're asking to be released in exchange for innocent hostages. There's also, hey, Kane, there's another guy named Jihad. His name's Jihad Ram.
SPEAKER 16 :
What does he do?
SPEAKER 22 :
You know, he probably runs like a coffee stand, maybe a banana stand, like an arrested development, you know, frozen banana stand. I don't know. No, no, you would be wrong. He, you know, like his name, he engages in the practice of Jihad. And they he stabbed and beaten, stabbed two IDF reservists, him and another individual with a crowd, a civilian crowd outside. He also lynched an 18 year old and kidnapped and lynched an 18 year old. Mm hmm. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot there. And then, of course, some of the people involved in the Romalo lynching. You know, some of the people that held up their hands had red hands, which insanely became the symbol of for Hamas. Crazy. Those are some of the people that are going to be released. That's who they're talking about. So that's I'm less excited about. And we're going to get into some of the other. It looks like. there may be some of these other caveats involved. So I know everyone over the weekend was talking about Qatar training on jets in the United States. They're purchasing jets, and apparently we are training them on how to use them. And there was a lot, a lot of questions about that. We're going to talk about that coming up as well as we roll towards the conclusion of this first hour. We have days of these United States coming up. It's the folks over at chapter chapter is a great group group of advisors that can help you walk through the whole medicare annual enrollment season and you're just getting beaten over the head with robocalls and texts and mailers and my mom is just so every time she gets them she i think she argues with them and i'm like i think they're bots Don't don't do that. Don't don't argue with the bots because they just they'll just they'll keep they'll keep texting you. Medicare plans can change every year. So even if you like your current plan, you still have to check what's coming for 2026. And if you don't review your options, you could lose coverage that you depend on. You've got to call the partners. over at chapter it's a great medicare partner for you they can review every plan across the country to make sure that you are not overpaying they've been saving people over a thousand dollars annually and their advisors are salaried there they advocate for you not for the insurance companies and i know it can be a major hassle dealing with all of this stuff but let me promise you this takes like under 20 minutes actually does take under 20 minutes that's how quickly they can do this That's a lot more in terms of saving you time than having to deal with calls and emails and texts relentlessly from Medicare annual enrollment season. So if your current plan is still the best fit. You're all set. If not, they can help you switch. No gimmicks, no pressure, just honest advice from experts who know Medicare inside and out. It's very easy to do this. Dial pound 250 and say the words, my Medicare. It's very important. Don't risk it and work with someone you can trust. And that's chapter. Dial pound 250 and say the keywords, my Medicare.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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To the three young men that did this last night, I have to say, as I was watching this take place, my heart swelled with pride that maybe there's hope for your generation yet. Because This kind of stuff has got Gen X written all over it. But what really got me excited that you did it despite the trail camera right here. You did it anyway. And my heart swelled with pride as I viewed your beautiful work looking at my cell phone and thinking, I am proud of those three young men. There is hope for your generation after all, because this It's Gen X made over.
SPEAKER 22 :
That's funny. I don't know that I'd have the same. I'd be like, why are you, because they look like two-ply, man. It's expensive. They look like they grabbed the good stuff out. I'd have been like, why couldn't you use the one-ply? Don't be using the good stuff. Just saying. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lashley with you, Days of These United States. He had a fun attitude about it, that guy.
SPEAKER 16 :
The two-ply does fly better. Like it doesn't rip apart when you're throwing the roll itself.
SPEAKER 22 :
I haven't heard of anybody doing that in like forever.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, man, I did it back in the day.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. Oh, you did?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
And I've sporked a yard.
SPEAKER 16 :
You mean just stuck sporks in the lawn?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. Yeah, I've done that. Yeah, I've totally done that. Which is worse.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wait a minute.
SPEAKER 22 :
What am I talking about? I didn't do any of those things. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER 16 :
Too late.
SPEAKER 22 :
It's under duress. It's not me. I'm not in my right mind. So coming up, some of the stuff we're going to be touching. I'm sure you all saw this also over the weekend, SecWar. They were discussing the... training of these Qatari pilots on jets that Qatar is purchasing. And that's kind of like, I understand that it's sort of the standard operating procedure when someone makes an acquisition like that. And then they want to train and they want our pilots to train them. And I know it's a whole thing. I get that. But I just feel like for Qatar, they sheltered Hamas for decades. I just sort of feel like maybe they shouldn't get that consideration. Right. Maybe just maybe it's just me. But I feel like maybe you shouldn't get that consideration. But I also feel like it was sort of a caveat for the steal. Right. This is a caveat to the steal. that cutter gets training from our our pilots i hope it's not the best training either just i gotta say and maybe it's like you know some of the some of the you know how you when you bake cookies the first batch is not usually the best one it's usually after you get maybe it's those jets that we can sell them i don't know how jet making works but you know maybe it's that first batch of jets we just let them have those sure it's like cookies Or when there's a new iPhone, right? Always the first ones that come out. Those are the ones that are always buggy and there's always something wrong with them. Maybe the first batch of Jets, Kane. It's not a bad idea. The Qataris can have those Jets.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
Just saying. Thinking aloud here. But again, that could have perhaps been one of the things that... They had to include in this deal to make it happen. So we're going to look at that. Also, it's Christopher Columbus Day. And the president he had signed, he likes the Italians. You know, he signed a proclamation about this coming up. So we're going to discuss because the left hates the left hates Christopher Columbus Day. And apparently wasn't there some museum? I think it was over in Europe where they threw paint on this museum. or paint on this Columbus painting in a museum. I hope they got dragged for it. So we're going to dive into all of that. And also, lawlessness and disorder. We have some of the latest there. China, rare earths, tariffs. And Mandani's wife was mourning the deaths of these terrorists also. These posts came to light. We've got a lot to hit. Stick with us. So apparently we have to stop falling for the whole higher thread counting because it doesn't necessarily mean better sheets. That's fake news, apparently. It's like believing that you use like 10% of your brain. So the secret isn't thread count, it's thread quality. And this is where Bull & Branch has won a lot of folks over at yours truly. They use the best organic cotton. End of. I mean, these are sheets that feel incredible, like the moment you take them out of the box. So the first night that you put them on, you can tell right away that they're softer, they're cooler, and they have a great weight. It's like kind of having a five-star hotel room in your own house. And I'll tell you something else. The sheets get better every time that you've washed them. I've washed mine countless times and they just keep getting softer. You can't do that with cheap sheets because they totally fall apart. Bowl and branch, they get more luxurious. So you'll sleep better and you're kind of kind of feel like a spoiled brat, but it's okay. I'm not going to go back to the old sheets. Once you try them, you're not going to either. So if you're ready to upgrade your sleep, and you should, visit bowlandbranch.com slash danashow because there you'll get 15% off your first set plus free shipping. So that's bowlandbranch.com slash danashow for 15% off. Exclusions apply.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 22 :
All right, so this crazy story, a helicopter spun out over a crowded beach and then crashed. Huntington Beach. People were scrambling to get out of the way. This is not a weird story. I was hoping there's aliens or something involved in it. Five people were injured in the crash happened about 2 p.m. Two people inside the chopper were taken to the hospital. Conditions are unknown. Let's see. Of course, that just froze this. OK, so also chaos outside of ICE facilities. We're going to talk more about this coming up. Protesters once again clashed with police in Chicago. And helicopters in Portland were targeted by lasers. All they're doing is enforcing existing law. Law that actually Democrats voted for. I feel like that needs to be established. So here's the thing that I find fascinating, King. Futurism. Interstellar object is spraying something weird. What? It's a new analysis of our solar system's interstellar interloper, 3I Atlas, reveals that it's spewing huge amounts of water, and astronomers cannot explain why. It's an object that they think is a comet. Remember that weird thing that we all keep talking about, that weird thing that's floating around out there? Okay, it shows ultraviolet emissions that are unmistakable telltales of hydroxyl gas, which is a byproduct of water. And astronomers have been imaging it with NASA's Swift Space Telescope. It disappeared behind the sun. They said that the emissions can only be spotted from space because ultraviolet light gets absorbed by the atmosphere. They cannot figure out, according to the Astrophysical Journal letters, why it's doing this. I can't. Stick with us. Look, you don't want to be unprotected online because there's so many shady people and so many scammers online. There's so many different ways to fleece you blind. Here's what you need to be. First thing you need to do is get Web Roots Total Protection. Now, it's not just about malware and ransomware and phishing scams. One of the things that Web Root Total Protection does, and yes, it has real-time antivirus that blocks all the emerging threats from those attempts. But it also provides identity protection. It searches the dark web to make sure that your private information isn't popping up where it should be or where it shouldn't be. They also have a web threat shield that detects and blocks malicious sites on every browser. They have a system optimizer that deletes online activity traces. They have VPN encryption. And they also have up to a million dollars in expense reimbursement for identity theft and advanced dark web monitoring. All of that. Financial alerts are also included. So they've been doing this for over 25 years. And they have a customer retention rate that's over 90%. 24-7 U.S.-based customer service team. And plans are super affordable. And your whole family is covered. So this is great for parents. Your kids are covered. Your parents are covered. So it protects the whole family. You need to change up how you get online and make sure that you're protected with WebRoot. Get 60% off WebRoot's total protection at WebRoot.com slash Dana. That's 60% off, but only through WebRoot.com slash Dana. Live a better, safer digital life with WebRoot.
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SPEAKER 07 :
No one other than President Trump could have achieved the peace that we believe will be a lasting peace in Gaza. And Qatar played a substantial role from the beginning, working with our folks to ensure that came about. So I want to thank you for that historic peace. I look forward to joining the president as that gets It's already been delivered, but as that's formally signed as well. And I'm also proud that today we're announcing or signing a letter of acceptance to build a Qatari Amiri Air Force facility at the Mountain Home Air Base in Idaho. The location will host a contingent of Qatari F-15s and pilots to enhance our combined training, increase lethality, interoperability. It's just another example of our partnership. And I hope you know. Your Excellency, that you can count on us.
SPEAKER 22 :
That was pretty significant, what Hegseth was announcing there. And I think that also has to... I think that was maybe part of this peace agreement. That's not... I think it has something to do with this. Welcome back, by the way, to the program. Dana Lash with you. And we are at the top... No, sorry, bottom of the second hour. And, you know, it really there were a lot of questions about this when this first came out. And this, you know, Qatari deal, they're opening up. It was described originally as an Air Force facility in the United States, a mountain home Air Force base in Idaho. Now, I understand that this is just an acquisitions process. They're, you know, cutters. They're buying jets and they want. our pilots to train them on it. I get all that. I just don't like the Qataris. I think that's fair to say, right? Because they've sheltered Hamas. They allowed this to go. I mean, all of this happened in spite of Qatar. I get it. And everyone says, well, cutters, they allow us just to have a base there. Like we're doing them like they're doing us some great favor. We're doing them a favor by not annihilating them for all the support of Iran and terrorism all these years. So spare me. Don't sit here and give me that podunk like, oh, we're doing that or they're doing us a great turn. Pound sand. We're doing them a huge favor by not turning them to glass for being so close to Iran. So, you know, I just kind of look at it like that. I feel like that's fair to say. Now, again, I know it's an acquisitions process and it does it. I feel like I'm a little different on this. I don't know necessarily that I would have struck that particular aspect of the deal, but maybe it was a deal breaker. We don't know. We'll see. And I know that that's custom. I don't want to hear. I know how it works. I know. Yes. When other people buy our jets. Yes, there's a process in place, but not everybody else sponsors Hamas. And not everybody else works is in cahoots with Iran, even at the detriment of our own soldiers, by the way, in the Middle East. So, yeah, there's a little bit of a difference there. Just saying now. The way that it was widely reported, and J.D. Vance talked about this, Audio Soundbite 17. Well, it's again, it's an acquisitions. It's like if you're getting a Tesla, you have to learn how to operate the damn thing, right? I mean, you get in it and it's just, you know, it's very futuristic and there's a lot of bells and whistles and a lot of buttons to push. Some that maybe you shouldn't. So you're getting trained on it. I understand all this. Cut 17. This is the VP.
SPEAKER 02 :
What is the function of this Qatar facility? People are wondering, is this an air base? What is Qatar going to be developing in Idaho?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I saw some reporting about this, Maria. I actually talked to the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, this morning. This is largely a fake story. We continue to have with countries that we work with, we have relationships where sometimes their pilots work on our bases, sometimes that we train together, sometimes we work together in other ways. The reporting that somehow there is going to be a Qatari base on United States soil, that's just not true. We are continuing to work with a number of our Arabs, our Arab friends to ensure that we are able to enforce this peace. But we're not going to let a foreign country have an actual base on American soil. So there's a bit of misreporting on that, as there often is, as you know, Maria.
SPEAKER 22 :
So there there you go. That explains all of it. Now, again, I I get it because I'm. I got, you know, questions about the Qataris. And then I was kind of joking with Kane a little bit earlier. Maybe we give them the first batch of Jets, like the first batch of cookies ain't so good, right? The first iPhones or whatever that come out, those are the ones that usually got something wrong with them. Maybe we're like, hey, same price, you can have the first batch of these Jets that we're making right now, right? This seems like it's pretty fair. It's a fair thing. So I get it. I get it. Now, in addition to this, a couple of other things. Fetterman made a very good point here because Democrats have been largely sidelined. Notice that they're nowhere involved in any of this. Have you noticed that? There's not any oxygen for them at all. Cut 15. Listen.
SPEAKER 26 :
Absolute elation. I mean, how can we all celebrate this thing? I mean, you've had human beings held underground for over two years and tortured and beaten and starved, forced to dig their own graves and things. Now they can finally come back home. And now everyone, everyone should be celebrating these things. And clearly the Palestinians are, and people in Israel are too. And now there are people in our nation... You know, some of those aren't really celebrating or even acknowledging a thing. And that that's part of the truth there, too. It really was never about about peace. It was more about an anti-Israel agenda. And now why can't we all whatever where you are politically? This is a huge development and this terrible, awful war is going to come to an end. And now you can rebuild Gaza and these families are now reunited like that. That's a big thing, and it's a strange time if you can't celebrate this.
SPEAKER 22 :
And he's right. I just I do think that it is incredibly interesting to see the way that they're all standing on stage right now. They have these guys in peace talks underway. They're having this peace summit. They've he just was standing on stage with everybody from Georgia Maloney and Keir Starmer, all these world leaders. And it was interesting. It was greasing up. Greasing the hands, you know, back patting, all this stuff, calling him out. There was no, I mean, it's very clear who's responsible for this. And what is responsible for this? Peace through strength. Trump was just reasserting the West. Up there, he was reasserting the West and the West's strength on that stage because he didn't bend a knee like Keir Starmer, the little who that guy, that lunchbox, see him with his giant head. I feel like so I married an axe murderer. Heed paper now. Go to sleep on your giant pillow. You got to have seen the movie. It was really good. Anyway, but he's seen him back there. He wasn't invited to speak. He really didn't like say anything because he and Mark Carney just about damn near derailed the thing. Because they are such simps. Just about damn near derailed it. They were the ones who thought, well, you know, let's just go out here. Let's go ahead and get ahead of Trump. I honestly think they tried to torpedo this. Trump was in negotiations. The United States in negotiations. With Qatar, Hamas, Egypt's involved, Turkey's involved, everybody's putting pressure on Hamas. And here you have the dopes, Mark Carney and Keir Starmer that come out there, along with Emmanuel Macron. Well, I think we're just going to go ahead and give them some statehood. We're going to go ahead and recognize a fictional state that never existed in all of the thousands of years of Islamic antiquity. We're just going to go out there and we're going to get better and get a Palestinian state. They immediately, they get out ahead of Trump during negotiations and they announce that. Same thing with Emmanuel Macron. I can't do like a backwards French accent. We're going to give them their own state. Wave the white flag of surrender. Same thing. They almost torpedoed it. So I'm glad Macron wasn't. Was he even on the stage, Kane? I didn't even see him on the stage. He was way off. Get him the furthest away. Stick him next to Abbas out there. The guy who runs FATA. Go ahead and stick him out there by him. Same person at this point. But I feel like they were really humbled. Keir Starmer shouldn't have been that close to the center. I really do feel like Carney and Starmer were really humbled. But these clowns show up acting like they deserve any credit for any of this. And they don't. In fact, the only leader up there who didn't really bend the knee besides Trump was Maloney. Everybody else was like, oh, no, we got to go. They're falling up Portugal. Everybody falling all over themselves to award Hamas statehood before a before a single hostage was released. Any of it. They were out there. They've been wanting to do that for a while and they were sidelined. So I think this was a huge optic. Trump reasserted the West on this stage. He isn't playing around. Peace through strength and peace through strength. One, can we stop being pansies with our foreign policy now? And I can't I cannot underscore this again. This was one before the strikes. The strikes cemented it. But when Trump went over to the Middle East. And when he started talking about the sanctions with Syria, oh, and it made the crown prince of Saudi Arabia very happy and the heads of United Arab Emirates and all of these Arab leaders, they got up and they were very happy. They're very against Iran. They're not pro-Islamist. They're pretty anti-Islamist. They want to make money. And they know they can't do it the way that Hamas, Iran, Islamism is operating. And that was huge because then Syria pulled protection of Iran's skies. Iran had no air cover. And that became Israel's skies after that. That's when it was won. That's really when it was won. Huge. Significant. That was peace through strength. When they got touched in Doha, it was won. Peace through strength. And these weak-kneed people like Starmer and Carney, they don't understand that. Macron, they're weak. They're spineless. It's disgusting the way that they betray their people. Now, a few other things on this. So they caved. Now we'll see the other points of the plan because now Hamas has to disarm. This is not done yet. Remember, it's a 20 point plan. And. They're supposed to also, there's a few other things they have to hand over. They're having the prisoner release as well right now. And we'll see how this goes because there's a number of other points that they have to meet. We're also still in the middle of a shutdown. How many votes now, Cain?
SPEAKER 1 :
11,000?
SPEAKER 22 :
Democrats are just not interested.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think seven, possibly eight.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, yeah. Because I know it was like, what, seven votes?
SPEAKER 16 :
On Friday.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, seven like on Friday. Yeah, so the shutdown's still in effect. Have you guys noticed you can't go out and do anything because the government shut down? No, you haven't. You haven't noticed a single thing. I actually think it might be better, Cain. Might be better. Democrats still have not agreed to pass the CR that they passed. This is literally the same stupid bill that they passed three months ago. Not even kidding. This is the same bill that was passed in spring. It was the same bill that was passed before that in fall. It is the same bill. Democrats just wanted to add a trillion dollars of new spending to it, which included expansion of benefits for people who were here illegally. So I didn't even like the last bill. I thought the last bill was stupid. This is dumb. This is the same dumb bill. And Democrats want to act like it's Republicans that are doing this. It's literally the same levels of spent. If Democrats were smart, they would say, oh, no, this is a win for us. We're getting everything that we negotiated last fall. We're getting everything that we were negotiating before Trump was one election was back in the White House. It's the same bill. They would just, they'd be clowning Republicans, but they're so petty and so dumb. They can't even realize the strategy in that. Our friends at, it's the folks at Burna Gun. I, look, I have zero problem throwing lead down range. I've told you this a million times. I have zero issue using the lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones. It's just not even up for debate. But I also realized too that it's important to have diversity in terms of what you have for weapons. And whether it's municipal or private property restrictions, blah, blah, blah, you guys know the drill. You have different calibers, you have blades. I just think that it's smart to incorporate something when everything else is trying to disarm you so you can still have a means of defending yourself. Burn-A-Gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. And they've got, I think it's like, what, 15 rounds in one of their cartridges. Whereas, think about regular stun guns. You've got regular stun guns, you've got like one or two rounds. That's it. But with Burn-A-Gun, you've got a 15-round shock capacity per cartridge. There's no recoil. Everything's made right here in the U.S. of A. And it does not care about gun-free zone signs. So if you're a college student who's allowed by age of 18 to go in a foreign land and carry a full auto in defense of your country, but you can't legally carry a firearm here while living in a town and going to college in defense of yourself, burning gun might be an option for you. Doesn't care about gun-free zone signs. There are zero background checks. They can be shipped right to your front door. There's no special fees. It's accessible to everybody. The CL, the compact launcher, is the best one. And it's perfect for this particular situation. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. It's the Burna CL. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 22 :
All right, we are going all the way to the very end of the list for our first headline because I've been waiting all weekend to talk about this headline. Florida parents left a 16-year-old by the side of the road with a bag of guns and said, go on and fend for yourself, say police. Now, the parents have too many damn names, Kane. Bradley, Leon, Guerrero, Santos. Now, you get three. Stop it. OK, so you can be Bradley Leon Guerrero. Santos is his last name. So he's got to drop either Leon or Guerrero. It's too damn many names. And then Rosanella Boya, 35, are facing child neglect charges. They were near Sarasota. There was a 911 call on October 1st about a suspicious male who was walking on the side of Interstate 75. When police approached, the boy reluctantly identified himself as, you know, this is his parents kid. And he said when he got home from school that day, his parents told him they were taking a trip. He went walk the dog. He saw them throwing like clothes into duffel bags and then they rushed him and his eight year old sibling into the car. He said that their destination was, quote, either Guam or Idaho, and he didn't want to go. So that's when they kicked him out of the car, left him with two pistols and a bag and some cash. And then they told him to take care of the house. And that was it. They were arrested. Clearly, he said his father's very religious, often gives him difficult tasks to test his mental fortitude. And they said that they told the son that he was the chosen one. I don't know. Like part of me is like, that's a really good idea. No, I'm joking. Part of me is like, you know, scared straight. Maybe. I don't know. Are we getting the full story?
SPEAKER 16 :
It's just like throwing your kids in the pool to teach them how to swim. It's kind of like that.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. With a bag of guns and some cash, you know, on the side of a highway. I mean, why didn't they just leave him at the house? Why did they take him? That doesn't make any sense. So they're charged with child neglect also because there were pistols that they left the 16 year old with. They got they got another charge for that. So it was like a minor to access a firearm, something of that nature. I just think that there are ways that you can instruct kids on this type of thing without throwing them on the side of the road at like the middle of the night and then leaving him and no, he has no way of contacting anybody. Nothing. He had no phone, nothing. So just saying there's probably better ways to do it. But also at the same time, I'm like, you know, how many people had family that's like would, you know, put them in the woods and say, OK, come back in an hour. I mean, in Sweden, they let their kids sleep outside in snowdrifts. So just saying. All right. Let's see. A Florida man smacks people with a metal shelf in a Publix fight. Publix fight. This is a new thing. All right. So a brawl began inside a Miami-Dade Publix, and there is video footage per the New York Post. The shirtless Florida man, who was also shoeless, grabbed, I guess he took apart an end cap. on an aisle and then started like beating people with the metal shelf there were large parties of people it broke out after an aggressive verbal argument and then that turned then physical uh yeah this looks bad the half-naked man man clement man c-l-i-m-o-n-t two n's He picked up one of the shelves from the end cap and started whacking two women brawling on the ground. I don't even know who's at fault here. I really don't. Just arrest everybody because it looks like everybody's involved in doing something. Look, don't tear apart store shelves at a Publix and beat each other with the shelving. I mean, it goes without saying for most of us, but some people, they need the reminder. We've got a lot more on the way. Third hour coming up. Stick with us. The folks over at Super Beats who have been a really long-time supporter, such a long-time supporter of the show. that some people are like, wait a minute, you're the Beats person. Well, yeah. And I take them and they're good. And they have a lot of other benefits that I can't say to because they didn't pay a hush money to the FDA. I don't know if I can say that or not, but I did. Anyway, the company behind it, Human, they're based in Austin, Texas. They partner with UT. They work with the Health Science Center. It's all built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. And it's all very, very science-based, like actual science, not pretend science where something pretends it's something else. And you can actually feel it working. UT athletes use Super Beats. In fact, some of your favorite teams probably use it as well. There's over 160 college and pro teams. that actually use humans' products. And so, like I said, your favorite team probably does too. It's all about heart-healthy energy without the crash, plant-based, no stimulants, no artificial sweeteners or colors, and clinically studied. Recommended by doctors, including mine, pharmacists and cardiologists, more so than any other beat brand. Pick up Super Beats at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the road to better health with Super Beats from Human.
SPEAKER 15 :
Please expel this Knesset member.
SPEAKER 18 :
Please expel this Knesset member. This is the Israeli Knesset.
SPEAKER 22 :
This is their parliament. And there was, very quickly, it was a pro-Hamas, I guess, what, protester that interrupted Trump's address of the ruling body. and then he was escorted out. It all happened very quickly. And he was escorted right out. It was very interesting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sorry for that, Mr. President. That was very efficient.
SPEAKER 22 :
And that's how that's how he responded. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. Very, very, very, very good day. In fact, for many families that lost their loved ones and had not seen their loved ones in two years, as you know, the POTUS is over in the Middle East. They just had this big thing in Egypt. The world leaders. We talked about that. I'll have something up coming up about that on Substack chapter and verse as well. But that's where you had one of these. Left wing members pro Hamas, I would say, of the Knesset interrupt POTUS as he was speaking to the governing body and then cut 48. So Gazans were blocking, you know, Gazans. Everyone acts like Hamas just enforces its will over this strip. They are popular with the people in this strip. And never forget that, especially when some of these hostages were kidnapped, there were tons of civilians that ran over and were helping Hamas and spitting on the bodies, kicking them, all that, the whole nine yards. Gazans were blocking Red Cross vehicles from even getting to the hostages to pick them up. This is cut 48. Look at this. Vehicles are trying to go through just to get the hostages. And Gazans weren't letting them go through. Gazans of all ages. They were not allowing them to go through originally. Yeah, they had food, medicine, the whole nine yards, you know. No, no, no. So very interesting stuff that's happening. Look, I don't know what's going to happen in that strip if Hamas is 20-point peace plan. Now, we're only in the first couple of points of this peace plan, so a lot of stuff could still happen. But if they do not disarm and leave... I mean, they must. But if they leave, then who's going to it's got to be quick and there needs to be some kind of control of that area. Otherwise, there's going to be a vacuum and another Hamasi-esque faction is going to move in and take over. So these are all considerations here. I want to switch gears. Cut 43. Mark Ruffalo, who I just find him to be insufferable. He's always super negative. It seems like he is the worst aspects of his character, the Hulk, but without the ability to actually turn into a giant green thing. But he goes on this rant against capitalism. The guy who makes millions of dollars per movie in Hollywood goes on a rant against capitalism and wants to replace it with socialism. Listen.
SPEAKER 18 :
What do we do to make life better for everybody? We certainly have enough. I mean, we just created the most number of billionaires in the history of the world. You know, we have enough. We could do this, but it's going to take some reimagining of what America is, what our economic system is. What's clear is it's not working and it's not sustainable.
SPEAKER 17 :
Actually, when our founding fathers set this up, they had the national motto of E Pluribus Unum out of many ones. And we've never achieved that. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 22 :
OK, sorry, Juan. We're going to not make it past that. Oh, my gosh. You absolute walking mental abortion. Do you not understand what that means? It doesn't mean everybody's socialism, guys. Time for socialism. I mean, I'm interpreting it literally. E pluribus unum. That means socialism. It means from many one, meaning from many who seek liberty, from many who seek freedom. You have one voice, and that is that animating spirit of liberty that unites us and defines us. Talk about historical illiterates, people who literally are unfamiliar with anything that the founders ever said, anything that they ever wrote, any of the debates that they had in the Freedom Hall, any of it. That is just asinine. It's not pointing to socialism. It's pointing to a unification behind the spirit of liberty. I'm sorry. Was there a lot more of that to play? Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. I was just was not going to wasn't going to happen. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
Out of many one. Yes. And we've never achieved that. Well, there's a long time. We didn't even vaguely even strive for that. But we can still strive for the vision of America, the promise of America.
SPEAKER 18 :
We still have that. We have that promise in our DNA. Someone slipped that in there, which creates a possibility for it, right? That's like the moment we're in right now. It's physics. Things have got to come to a point where there's so much movement. It's chaotic. It's chaotic. It's chaotic. Boom. Something new comes out of it. Water to steam. There's no other way to actually change. And that's painful. It's like giving birth. I mean, birth is painful. It's dark. We don't know. It's scary.
SPEAKER 22 :
will it ever end you know it's like the same it's just like being in college and you go out to eat with some friends and then two of your friends get super drunk at dinner and then they just sit there and they never shut up at the end of the table and they're like we're gonna solve the world's problems and they go on endlessly before it ends up devolving into some kind of like conspiracy theory deep dive that's what that conversation was kane I mean, I think that's a pretty accurate... Yeah, that music, whoever decided to put the music behind... Whoever put that stupid music, I want to find them and swing them around by the hair on their head until their scalp falls off.
SPEAKER 16 :
Not only is it annoying, but I guess they were trying to impose an emotional lane you were supposed to be in while listening to this rubbish. Fury? Fury.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. What? Yeah. What? We're going to put we're going to drop this annoying music, this Amelie type music here and try to make people feel sad about these morons talking. Mark Ruffalo, a guy who I don't think what he's like, we're going to reimagine what America is like, what our economic system is like. It's clearer. I mean, it's like not like working like and like sustainable, like, you know, right. And then you have Rainn Wilson, who only sounds intelligent when other people write his lines. Like, yeah, it's E Pluribus Unum. It's exactly cement socialism. Oh, my gosh. Mark Ruffalo is worth like $35 million, something to that extent. I don't know. And he's worth a lot of money. And he has over and over again, he's gone after wealthy people or just like people who like himself. He's mad at everybody except himself that makes money. I don't know. I've read that it's like $35 million, but then someone else, some other estimate said that, Fox Baltimore said that it was like closer to $90 million. Anyway, he's all into the no king stuff. And He does not like people who are, he only wants to be successful himself. This is how communists think. They want to be rich, but they want you to be poor because they think that there's a scarcity of opportunity and they don't want to have to share influence with you. They want to gatekeep and keep you away from all of it. So they impose these asinine, mathematically illiterate regulations to keep you broke and to keep them rich. They are literally everything that they talk about hating, but it's all in one person, which is them. That's what it is. That's who these people are. To hear somebody like $90 million Mark Ruffalo up there complaining, I'm just so rich people. Oh, it's insane. We got to replace capitalism with socialism. Well, there goes your whole industry, dude. Got to replace capitalism. Socialism is what people who are tired of working or they don't want to work and they want to be lazy. They want that so that they can coast on everyone else's effort. You know, we're getting near Thanksgiving. So what we do every Thanksgiving, I mean, near, yes, it's next month. We always talk about how, you know, the first society set up, established by Europeans in the United States was a socialist society that completely failed and everyone almost died. They almost died because of starvation, because they tried the socialism and the socialism didn't work. So then they had to switch over and actually try to make people work of their own merit. And that was much better. They were much more successful. Mark Ruffalo just hates America. He hates everything that this country is about. He doesn't like our freedom. He doesn't like even the crony capitalist system that we have in this society. He hates every aspect of it, even though he has benefited more so than many other people in this country from the very things that he bitches about. And he's it's only from that safety of success and that surety of success that he can blast the system that he was able without any complaint prior to use to enrich himself. So I can never take these people seriously. They always bitch and moan, and they sit on all their millions. Did Mark Ruffalo buy any of you a house? No. Did he pay off any of y'all's mortgage? Hell no. He pay off any of y'all's health bills? No, he didn't. Did he all give y'all any money? No, he didn't. Did he pay off a bill for you? No, no, he didn't. Not a single.
SPEAKER 16 :
So he didn't even inspire me to do any of those things.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. So he's just a poser. That's all he is. Just like Bernie Sanders, three house Bernie Sanders. They're posers. I can't take any of these people seriously. They don't even live by the tenets of socialism that they pretend to adore. And nobody questions it because they're all in this cult of personality. They're so busy kissing ass. They don't even stop and go, wait a minute. Why aren't they living by the rules that they want everybody else to live by? Great question there, champ. Just asinine. Just so asinine. So I don't know. These people, I can't take any of them seriously at all. I can't take any of them seriously. By the way, Columbus Day. It's Christopher Columbus Day.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's not Indigenous Peoples Day?
SPEAKER 22 :
That's so ridiculous. Columbus was, I mean, Christopher Columbus, Americo Vespucci, these were great explorers. I don't, contrary to history, or no, contrary to what people want history to be, it seemed like, you know, Columbus wanted to make everybody Spanish citizens and Christians. They always try to make them out like this brute thing. But no, he was, you know, a self-made Italian who was very successful in what he what he did. And he was very I mean, you have to be very courageous to sail across the sea the way that he did. Not many would not many dare to do it. And he Christopher Columbus was he was the first immigrant to the new world. What gets me is that all these people on the left hate Christopher Columbus. So I guess they hate immigrants, huh, Kane? Wow. I guess they hate immigrants because he was like, you know, first immigrant, really. you know, some Vikings, but he's the first immigrant. Wow, look at that. And they hate him. They hate him for it. But I thought they loved immigrants. I'm all confused now. I'm all confused. So I just find it interesting that they... When did people have such a problem with Christopher Columbus? This is like a new thing, Cain. When did this come about? This is like a newly created thing, like 10 years ago, maybe?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, like just more than a handful of years ago was when we started seeing it. It's just the people who are... They hate themselves so much. They always have to project hatred of something. And whenever there's nothing in the news, they have to make something up. And that's what Indigenous People's Day became.
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I... I do think it's interesting that Democrats celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day. By the way, have Democrats done anything to make it to where, I don't know, the actual indigenous people can even own their own property on the reservations that Democrats marched them on? Why does no one ever talk about that? Just just can't wrap the mind around it. Democrats. Well, let's give them a day. Maybe they'll forget that the fact that we literally strip them of all of their land, sent them on a trail of genocide and put them on land that we thought originally was worthless. And then when we realized that there were rare earth elements on it and gas and oil, et cetera, then we wanted to take it over and like restrict them with regulation out of existence. But let's just make it to where they can't own their own property anymore. They can never own their own home. They can never own the land that their livestock grazes on. In fact, they have to pay remittances to us to even have the rights for grazing. We're just going to fleece them six ways to Sunday. But, hey, we'll give them a day. Oh, you got Indian people to indigenous people's day. We'll give them a day. Maybe they'll forget about the economic rape that takes place on these reservations at the hand of Democrats. Maybe maybe they'll forget about all that. I mean, that's Democrat logic for you. If you want to deal with inflammation, if you want to deal with minimizing, you want to minimize your aches and pains, whether it's from exercise or just maybe, you know, the long road of life, you can do that with Relief Factor. It's 100% drug-free. And it uses things like resveratrol and curcumin and turmeric and all kinds of stuff to help support your body's natural inflammatory response. Again, 100% drug free research based formula. And it's all about decreasing discomfort from exercise and everyday living, etc. Maintaining healthy joints and muscles. That's what it's all about. My husband uses it to help with old sports injuries. It promotes better movement. and less pain over time as well. It helps to target and control that inflammation, out-of-control inflammation that can create so many problems later on. You can try their three-week quick start for just $19.95. It's only $0.95 a day, less than a cup of coffee. Try relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF and get your three-week quick start today for just $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So, high schoolers photograph a rare coyote in a Bay Area park. It had a rare genetic mutation that scientists still don't know about. It had bright blue eyes. It's probably one of the mice walkers from Game of Thrones. Not everything can be an ice walker from Game of Thrones, Self. Yes, it can, Self. It absolutely can. How did you get that close to see it, though? I'd be like, wow! Dude, I'd be so not there zooming. I'd be like out of there, not near it. If I was unarmed, I mean, California. Interesting. A Tampa bank robber was arrested after his mom turned him in. A two-time Tampa bank robber. He was arrested on Thursday for attempting to rob a bank after his mom called the police on him. Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office reported that 33-year-old Aaron Spencer... Andrew, the bank entered the bank, demanded money by implying that he had a pistol. He then fled the scene on foot, discarded his clothing. Hope he had other clothing in a parking lot nearby. And then his mom called the 9-1-1 communication center saying her son had just robbed a bank and she was on her way to turn him in. They got the stolen. They recovered the money and they got him. And he's charged with robbery with a firearm while wearing a mask. Is that like an enhanced charge? Curious about that one. Let's see this. Oh, police pursue a huge inflatable pumpkin. tis the season. There's a body cam video showing an officer struggling with it as well. In Ohio, police pursuit. They were looking for a flash of orange in the darkness. It's a runaway. It was a runaway inflatable pumpkin as large as they were. And it kept blowing away. They returned it to the home where it was displayed. It was large enough to like really cause some problems in traffic if it were to get out in the road. And a man is accused of putting super glue in a co-worker's soda. Now he's going to avoid prison time. How does... That's poisoning. You can't tell me that you don't know what super glue is and that he wasn't trying to poison the guy. That's kind of nuts, right? Right? Like, that seems the least you would get. No, he's avoiding prison time. Felony charge. Placing foreign object in edibles. Mount Pisa. Nice. Slap on the wrist for that. Stick with us. We've got more in store. Love the folks at All Family Pharmacy. I actually had to use them again. So my son, who is in college, ended up getting strep throat. And he was able to get medication in there, but I wanted to be able to get him something that helps his throat, right? You can get, I think it's like, I can't pronounce it properly. It's like Benzonatate or whatever. You know what it is, Cain. This is one of the things you can get at All Family Pharmacy. You go in, you fill out, you pick what you need, you answer some questions, the doctor reviews your request. is use a prescription and your medicines are sent as fast as like two to four days or overnight it in a pinch if you need it. And they have literally everything. NAD Plus, they have ivermectin. They've got all of the antibiotics that you need. The azithromycin, the amoxicillin, stuff I can't pronounce. A lot of things I can't pronounce. Your everyday medications, emergency kits, everything. Ladies, you can get Latisse for your eyelashes. So you don't have to worry about doing the tube and mascara or getting them extensions. You get you some Latisse at All Family Pharmacy. I mean, literally everything. Here's the other part that I love. Everything is made in the USA. I don't know of any other pharmacy where you are getting all the precursors for this stuff and the final product, all USA made. You can stock up today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, where I am a huge customer. And I use my own name, Dana10 as my code, because that's how you get 10% off. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10 for 10% off.
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As a conservative and as a business owner in the construction industry and as a realist, I can say we have to do something about labor and that needs to be a smarter plan than just rounding up every single person and deporting them just like that.
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Hmm. She's doing a slow shift to the left. I mean, it's like I think you made the point we're sort of like taking we're getting Fetterman and they're getting her because this is not the first time that she's sort of been sliding to the left on some stuff, especially judging by where she used to be previously on this. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this third hour. That was Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was saying that, well, we've got to do something about labor that needs to be a smarter plan than rounding people up and deporting them. Well, I'm still all about deporting people, so I don't. I mean, if you're America First, then you're also in support of ensuring that those who entered illegally and skirted accountability and responsibility aren't rewarded. That seems pretty forthright. She's getting a lot of I think she's getting a lot of criticism about this, though. Understandably, it does seem like a leftist position. She's saying, well, you know, as a works as a, you know, in construction, she what is she talking about? Labor, cheap labor. So what did seem like she was kind of alluding to, right? I don't know. What is your thought on it, Cain? You think she's alluding to cheap labor?
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Would she not want to round everyone up who entered her home illegally? Like, is she being inconsistent there? Because if someone came in my house uninvited, I'd be all active in rounding them up and getting them out, or... ending their life, whatever.
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I mean, didn't she say as a construction business owner, she's saying, I don't think we should just like, basically it sounds like she's saying we, I don't, I'm not in favor of deporting illegals that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't like to inject meaning where, but that's what it sounds like. Sure. Sounds like that.
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I mean, that's what it does sound like that. That's what it sounds like. She's saying, well, as a business owner, a realist, we have to do something about labor and that needs to be a smarter plan than just rounding up. Okay. So what, It's also very different from how she started. I have to say, it sounds very different from how she started. There has to be a consequence or a penalty of importing people in just simply to reduce the price of labor. Let's think about that for a minute. There has to be a smarter plan. I'll mitigate labor costs than just importing in people that you think can do it at a cheaper price how about that for starters you see what i mean it's like it's a shift left but without the intelligence behind it and i'm not saying i don't really believe that there's an intelligence behind some of the positions on the left but that would be a more i mean it's still wrong but it would be a more reasonable position than what she just said doesn't make any sense I mean, that's exactly what it is. Yes, opposition to deportation because you don't support the importation of cheap labor illegally. That is actually a smart plan. That is a smart way. Did you people think this was going to be easy? Did you think that correcting decades of dissent into madness was going to be easy? Did you think that it was just everyone can sit on their ass and the hard work will get done because somebody will do it, but not going to be me, not going to affect me, not going to affect my bottom line? I mean, for real, is that what people, do they think that? I mean, I got questions about this. Cut 28. This is Don Lemon. He was in Chicago and he was attempting to talk to people about border crossing illegally and arguing with them that it's not a crime. He didn't fare so well in this exchange. Listen.
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Okay, crossing the border illegally is not a crime?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it's not a criminal act. It's a misdemeanor.
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So why are they being sent back and saying that they're breaking the law?
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That's the point. Okay, as somebody that... We don't know if they're breaking the law because they won't tell. There's no due process. Where's the evidence? That's the whole point. And if they are breaking the law, most people will say, okay, then they need to go if they're criminals. But if they're not, why are they being rounded up and sent out? Especially when he promised to deport the criminals. And now he's not doing that.
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I don't think we're going to... Misdemeanor is not a crime. So misdemeanor is not a crime?
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It's not a criminal act, no. If you get charged with a misdemeanor, that's not a criminal act.
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If it's not a criminal act.
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Because we have different levels of crime. Everything is not the same.
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So it is crime.
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No, we have different levels of... I shouldn't say crime, but it's not a crime. You're not breaking the law.
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Why is it called a misdemeanor? What's this cause? A misdemeanor of what? Why is it called a misdemeanor? Oh, for the love, dude. My dude. Come on. It is. That doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. I just I still, you know, some of the people on the right, especially those who are in the MTG camp, like what? Again, I go back to how easy do they think this is going to be? I mean, it's not going to be comfortable to get back on the track that we need to get on. It's not going to be comfortable because there are hard decisions that have to be made. And, you know, the whole purpose was to get to this point so that we could make these decisions and then put those decisions in motion, the result of that. Good night. It's just bizarre. It's bizarre. So, I don't know. I've got to tell you, too, by the way, because I've We're going to get into a couple of things here. The Columbus Day. I saw some of the Columbus Day stuff. What did you say, Elizabeth Warren? Steve had made the funny comment on air, well, off air, whether or not asked if anybody had wished Elizabeth Warren a happy Indigenous Peoples Day. I don't think that they did. I was looking. I don't know if anybody's wished her that yet. She was apparently speaking about it as well. She was speaking about Indigenous Peoples Day instead of Columbus Day. I just find the irony of that completely amazing. Completely amazing. She's also going on and on about the shutdown, which is still in effect. A lot of you had asked, too, because we have been looking for a new church, right? Right. And I'm thinking about doing maybe a standalone deep dive on this at some point. I don't know when, but at some point. But we went and visited a church. And I'm going to warn you, I'm very old school about certain things. certain things in church. I get very to the letter of Paul on a lot of things. And some of you know where I'm going on this. And I don't really care if somebody gets offended or not, because your problem's not with me. It's with the word. It's with God. So, you know, take it up with him. That's between y'all. But I'll say this. We have been visiting some churches. To find a church home. And I don't mean like shopping. I want a Bible-believing church. I want a church that is full of the Spirit, preaching from the Bible. We are Church of Christ. We're non-denominational. So that's where we'd like to stay. Well, we went and visited a church this weekend. And it was a church. I'm not going to say any. I'm not going to name-check anybody. But we went and visited this church. And it was someone that we used to go to church with that had recommended it. We get there. It's a beautiful campus. I mean, it's very new. It's a beautiful campus. They had a water fountain. They had all kinds of stuff. Kane, it was fancy. Inside, it smelled like a retail store. Like, I think... they maybe had some kind of like scent that they were pumping through the HVAC. It smelled amazing and they're clean like soap. It was so nice. I don't know why that struck me. It was a little loud. The sound was loud. We come from a faith that or a practice, I don't want to say a faith, where, you know, church or Christ. So we come from a place where we don't have a lot of the instrumentation because it's, you know, lift your voices up and you're active in the worship. I do get weird when there's like a wall of instrumentation that's so loud, you can't even talk to the person next to you and you feel like you're at a concert. I just got, I have some issues with that. But anyway, it's a minor thing. We're in there, and they had a great worship and praise service, and they were singing some old school songs that I remember when I was a kid. And we're getting ready to settle in, and a woman comes up, and she's talking about stuff. And I was assuming that this was going to be a female who is coming up. and is talking to us about maybe, I don't know, VBS or maybe some of the women's groups or something. And she kept going. And then she started in scripture and I realized, oh my gosh, she's giving the sermon. Cain's eyebrows just shot up over his Robert Evans glasses. She was giving the sermon and I sat there Because I think that you either take some of the word or none of the word, or all of the word or none of the word. You can't just like parse it out and take, I'll just have a little bit of this word. I'll have a little bit of this. You either take all of it or none of it. And I don't support women pastors. I am very, again, if you take issue with me on this, then argue about it with God in Paul's letters. Argue about it in the New Testament. I'm not going to. I there there is Deborah, there is Ruth. And I think that Christianity has done more than any other faith. Jesus was the first feminist. I use that word like almost kind of jokingly. The true equalizer and Christianity has done more to lift up women than any other faith and has has done so much for women. This women are called to certain things. Men are called to certain things. And I'm not going to argue about it because it's just a just it is the word is what the word is. And I'm sitting there and there's a woman pastor. You and I were raised very similarly. And I'm it just shocked me. And then she was giving a sermon on gossip and biblical law. And she kind of was participating in gossip while also giving the sermon about gossip. And I'm thinking, this is wow. This is all of we got up and walked out of the service. Now we had some family visiting with us. We were very quiet, but unfortunately I did not know that they were going to, you know, you're visiting a church. I didn't advance and make sure, Hey, you don't gotta want, you know, I just didn't think that was something I necessarily needed to do if it was a Bible believing church. And I was very shocked. We left in the middle of the sermon because I'm just not going to, I'm not going to sit there and listen to it. And it was so sad because there were so many young people there and they look like they had a great youth program. And I just was just I that's that's a big thing to get incorrect, I think. And there's always going to be something incorrect or something off. I'm not looking for the perfect church. I'm looking for a church that is in the word. And I'm looking for a church that is of the spirit and that has a heart for God and is not about trying to be of the world and meet the world in the world. You know what I mean? Be of the word, not the world. And I felt... Like this was just more of that. Church is where you are. That's where you go and you fellowship with believers and you are stepping out of all of the insanity of this world and you're getting back to the purpose. I don't want to see it portrayed on stage as part of a sermon. It's not social experimentation. And it's if the Bible I just I was so frustrated because I thought, you know, I was really kind of excited. Like when we walked in and I'm like, wow, this is great. And I was livid that it was a female. She was and she wasn't the regular pastor. And that's irrelevant. She was still up there and she was delivering a sermon. And I just had a major problem with that. I mean, the Bible's pretty clear on things, and again, if people want to take issue with it, they can take issue with God. Your beef is not with me. I don't know. Was that the right thing to do, Cain, to get up and leave?
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I would say so. I mean, everyone has their own convictions, but the reality is there are leaders that lead from a position that everyone would respect, and then there are female pastors. So that's where I'm at.
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yeah it it was it just i i was shocked because normally you know you have someone who gets up and they're like oh yeah on our announcements and the kids you know you know going to kids church or whatever she just stayed up there and then she was at the the podium and then she was getting into scripture and she started talking about gossip and i'm just sitting here processing all of this stuff and i just couldn't sit there. You know, we, our nephew was with us and he was like, well, I know that, you know, God knows that I know that this is, you know, incompatible with what, you know, his word in, in the gospels. So do I get up and leave or, and we were all of the same mind because I was like, nope, this is not, not what I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not going to exercise patience and wait for you to get some of the most basic things right because our lives are too short. Yeah. the end that's just kind of how i look at it and i know it's there is a problem in the there's a problem in the christian church and a lot of people are really they're trying to water everything down and in the bid to make it seem like oh yes come one come all you're like throwing away some of the word to be of the world and this is a problem We're going to talk more about this in the weeks to come. I know we got to get moving as we do so. Our partners, Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the nation. And Patriot Mobile wants to save you money. They want to save you money. And they also want to make sure that your money is not working against you whenever you go to vote. You get reliable nationwide coverage. You have access to all three major U.S. networks. No compromising on quality. You have unlimited data plans. You have mobile hotspots, international roaming, device protection, internet backup, the whole nine yards. It's so easy to switch. They have a 100% US-based customer support team. And you just stay at your desk or stay at home, sit at your kitchen table, sit on your sofa, however you want to do it. Super fast activation. They'll get you completely set up. And you can keep your number in your phone or get entirely new everything. The choice is yours. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT. and get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Veterans and first responders receive 15% off of their bills every month. So patriotmobile.com slash Dana is the website. 972-PATRIOT to get started. And don't forget to use promo code Dana to get that free month of service.
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It's weird to see Democrats say nice things about Trump that they called Hitler forever and a Nazi. Because now do you see the ridiculousness of using those terms to describe Trump? Because now you got to go back and say Hitler did this. You know, I mean, it's just I don't know, man. I it's something like Bill Clinton was giving him accolades or a number of Democrats that are. Is this hard for them? I'm curious.
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It proves that they were more against Trump than they were for anything.
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And all the people who were like, cease fire, cease fire. Now they're mad that it was ceased. Keep an eye on this. Today in stupidity.
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All right. It is Letitia James who will go down for mortgage fraud. It turns out, by the way, most every one of her documents had fraud in it. But anyway, this is her responding to it.
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This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. It isn't. He's forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sorry, Big Tish was the one actually playing that whole weaponization thing.
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Yeah, Big Tish was, yeah, she was the one who, yeah, she did all that. That was her. All right, folks, I'll be on Fox Business at 430 Central, maybe later on Fox tonight. Just watch Facebook. Substack, YouTube, Facebook, like, subscribe. Great night.
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In this compelling episode, the discussion revolves around the historic peace deal brokered by President Trump, drawing connections to the Middle East's complex history. Highlighting viewpoints from diverse voices like Charlemagne the God and media personalities, the episode delves into the implications of this peace for global politics and previews how it reshapes regional dynamics. As the conversation unfolds, the focus shifts to New York, spotlighting Curtis Sliwa’s campaign challenges and strategy in the face of political friction.
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Is war in the Middle East the revival of an ancient conflict recorded in the Bible?
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The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation. So what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel?
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Dinesh D'Souza's new film, The Dragon's Prophecy, offers new understanding of October 7th, Israel and radical Islam.
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We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty, and we brought it back to life, and we're going to keep it.
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Their home. The hostages have been returned. The peace president has prevailed. Now, with a special edition of the Mike Gallagher Show, here's Mike.
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It's a little bit hard to believe, isn't it? For two years, we've heard... He's Adolf Hitler. Well, Adolf Hitler just achieved peace in the Middle East, and what are they going to say now? What are the No Kings protesters going to protest this weekend? Well, you don't like the presence of the National Guard in crime-ravaged Chicago? Really? You don't want communities being made safer? Seriously? And you're going to denounce this president who brokered a deal The world is rejoicing. Israel is waving Trump flags. They're handing out red baseball caps in Israel that say he's the people's president. What an extraordinary time to be alive. And yet, and yet, I keep thinking about what people who hate him must be saying and feeling today. Everybody's acknowledging he did this. Everybody's giving him credit, even the people in the media that hate him. It's one of those rare times where there's kind of unity. In a strange way, there's a sense of unity. How about giving you Charlemagne the God? Now, this is a guy in New York City, host of a very popular urban radio show, just a very popular guy. He's a little bit like Joe Rogan in the urban media environment. This is the way Charlemagne the God describes President Donald J. Trump.
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Donald Trump shows me what's politically possible. Trump shows me what presidents can do if they want to do it. Donald Trump shows me what can be said if you are willing to say it. It's not about what can't be done. It's about who has the political will to do it. I don't want to hear a peep from Democrats about nothing until they get the balls to say what's really on their mind. in regards to this country and this world. Trump doesn't care if it sounds ridiculous. Trump doesn't care if it makes sense. It's no political correctness whatsoever. As I've been saying for years, the language of politics is dead, and Donald Trump killed it, period.
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That's it. I mean, he doesn't care. And I think it's the not caring that really is making the difference. There's not any sort of pulling your punches, tiptoeing around, walking on eggshells. He just doesn't care. You want to criticize him, call him Hitler. I mean, what's worse than nearly getting a bullet in the brain? They tried to kill him twice. And he joked on Air Force One with Peter Doocy on the way over to Israel. He joked that he's not really sure he's going to get to heaven. And a lot of people were shocked. Kind of upset about that. A lot of people were saying, come on, you know, it's not based on good works. I mean, whatever he said. Let me play the clip for you. And believe me, I don't want to start a scriptural debate here. I'm not equipped to do it. I know there's a lot of smart people Bible-believing Christians who could probably analyze this clip from President Trump. But I just have to say one thing in response to what the 45th and 47th President of the United States had to say. On his way over to Israel, which is where we'll be heading week after next, we're broadcasting from Jerusalem. On Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, October 29th and 30th and 31st, I cannot wait to bring you the sights and sounds of the Holy Land in the immediate aftermath of this incredible peace deal. But here's what President Trump said about going to heaven.
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You had talked a couple weeks ago, you were doing an interview, and you talked about how you hope to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven.
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How does this help?
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Does this help? You know what I mean?
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A little cute. I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly an Air Force One. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven. But I've made life a lot better for a lot of people.
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You know, and again, a lot of people are saying, Mr. President, you've got to get better spiritual advisors. Come on. Look, that's Trump being Trump. He jokes. He said I was being a little bit cute. I don't know if I'll ever get to heaven. Maybe I'm going to head as close as I'll get here on Air Force One. I don't know about you, but it's my firm belief that God is smiling today. It's my firm belief that God will bless Donald Trump. for the peacemaking achievement that he accomplished. It's my belief that Jesus weeps for those horrible, horrible crimes that were committed. You know, there were no women returned. The 20 remaining hostages, all men. And a lot of analysts believe that's because these monsters, these savages, so brutalized the female hostages that they didn't dare allow them to stay alive to tell the world what was done to them. It just guts me. It just shatters me to think of what savagery these poor people experienced. Not one living female hostage. They killed them all. So, look, we got... And now there are reports and some breaking news that I got to share with you. Fox News reporting that Hamas is already being accused of violating terms of the peace agreement by not returning all of the bodies of the murdered hostages. Look, I got to believe... I'm no Middle East analyst here. I'm just a big-mouth talk show host who just tries to get through it all with you. I've got to believe that Hamas better not futz around or they're going to find out. What leverage do they have now? If they're not careful, if they don't play by the rules, and I'm going to lay out for you what the terms are of this agreement, but if they don't abide by the terms of this agreement, Israel and the U.S. are going to turn Gaza into a parking lot. They're going to obliterate the whole place. They'll take them all out. I've got to believe Hamas leadership knows that. But maybe not. You know how much I care about family, tradition, and the kind of meals that bring people together. That's why I love telling you about Tri-Tales Premium Beef. They're a fifth-generation ranching family down in Texas. Real ranchers, not corporations. And they put together something really special, the Autumn Butcher Box. Now, this box is about more than just dinner. It's about gathering your loved ones, creating memories, and feeding your legacy with beef raised the right way. From their ranch to your table, it's a taste of tradition that reminds us what family meals are supposed to be. And when you order this Autumn Butcher Box between now and October 19th, you get a pound of steak meat as a free bonus. Tri-Tales also still has my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box just for you. Get one or both and see what beef is supposed to taste like for yourself. As always, you get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Don't wait. Order the Autumn Butcher Box or my Gallagher Patriot Box today. Go to trybeef.com slash Gallagher. Share in the legacy. trybeef.com slash Gallagher. That's trybeef.com slash Gallagher.
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They're home. The hostages have been returned. The peace president has prevailed. Now, with a special edition of the Mike Gallagher Show, here's Mike.
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We are witnessing history. They are home. One of the most powerful messages I read about regarding the return of the living hostages to Israel was that Benjamin Netanyahu provided packages to all the hostages with various devices, a laptop, cell phone, and a message that said, we've been waiting for you. We've been waiting for you. Wow. The peace president did indeed prevail. And, of course, in addition to what's happening in the Middle East and on the world stage, there is a powerful, explosive conversation that people are having about the next mayor of America's biggest city. I've known Curtis Lewa for years. He, of course, is the Republican nominee, and we've been Really looking forward to welcoming Curtis back to the Mike Gallagher Show. So here he is on this fateful day, a very historic day, an epic day. And Curtis, I know you got your hands full with the mayor's race, but look, what's happening in the Middle East also impacts... Plenty of New Yorkers. Before we start in this battle between you and the communist Mamdani and the scoundrel Andrew Cuomo, let's talk a little bit about your take and your reaction to this epic, epic achievement by President Trump in this peace deal between Israel and Hamas.
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Well, after two years, outstanding to bring peace to the whole region, because this also impacts not just Gaza, the Palestinians, the Israelis. This impacts the entire Middle East and the entire Persian Gulf. Sort of following up on the Abraham Accords that President Trump was able to put into place, in the first term that he served the United States. So, again, he has not gotten us into war. He has only pushed us towards peace, and this will benefit the whole world. Now, in terms of locally, Mike, this has a tremendous impact because this is part of the wave that Zoran Mandami has ridden in order to beat Andrew Cuomo decisively in the Democratic primary. Because after two years, right after October 7th, an incredible majority of New Yorkers were siding with the Israelis against the Palestinians, upwards of 78%. And in that two-year period of time, now the majority of New York City residents are actually sympathetic to the Palestinians and not to the Israelis. That's a complete turnaround. And so that is what has that is what is really propelled Zohar Mandami, who on October 8th, a day after that vicious attack, the hostage taking, the rapes, the killings of the Israelis and then Hamas returning into the Gaza. He led the first demonstration in Times Square, actually in support of what Hamas did, in support of what the Palestinians did on that unholy day. So you say to yourself, if you would have figured out, Mike, at that moment, could Zorhan Mandami go on to become the next mayor of the city of New York? you would have said there's no chance. And yet here he is because the Democrats have forsaken us. They put up a feeble candidate in Andrew Cuomo who did not run a good race at all. In fact, he ran it from the Hamptons. And he continues not to be out there in the streets with the people. That's where the political battle is raged. You have to go into all 350 neighborhoods. You have to be on the subway every day like I am, neither of my two adversaries. And then the people will decide by November 4th, which is 22 days away, Mike.
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All right, let's talk about where we are with being 22 days out. And I want to share with you a bit of a personal journey that I went on. And I don't know if this got back to you or not, but I'm the one who's going to tell you if you haven't heard. Because I'm ashamed, frankly, because a few weeks ago, I was wavering a little bit on my support for my dear friend and veteran colleague, Curtis Lewa. I'm looking at the poll numbers. I mean, here's the New York Post, a conservative-friendly newspaper. publication that today writes, or yesterday, Mamdani's at 46%, supposedly. Cuomo's at 33%. You're at 15%. Obviously, if you combine the two challengers to Mamdani, you've got a likely victory. And then I talked to a buddy of mine, Mark Davis, who you know as well out of Dallas, and he said, Mike, You've got to do the right thing. You've got to stand up. You don't say, well, the lesser of two evils because evil is still evil. There is not one Curtis Sliwa policy for the people of New York that any normal person could disagree with. And so, you know, conventional wisdom said that Hillary Clinton was going to win in 2016, too. So you've got to take conventional wisdom, throw it out the window. I was ashamed of myself for even having the slightest bit of hesitation. Of course, I'm going to do the right thing and enthusiastically support you. If I still lived in New York, I'd vote for you 10 times. But that journey that I went on has got to be something that you're dealing with as well. There have got to be people who love you who say – who know that you're a true, you're Gotham's Batman. You know, you've been fighting crime your whole life. You've got policy after policy that make economic sense, that make fiscal sense, that's going to restore safety and peace to the streets of New York. But for people who say, ah, Curtis, come on, you've got to take it for the team. You've got to do what's right for New York. You're going to cost us the election. Look, I got there, thank goodness. I know what the right thing is to do. But what do you say as the candidate to people who might be wavering like I did briefly a couple of weeks ago?
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Yes, Mike. You see, you're not alone. They did that when Andrew Cuomo lost against Zohan Mandami. And then all of a sudden, Eric Adams was revived and resurrected and he came back. And there was a chorus and Curtis, you got to jump out. You got to jump out. And in reality, to drop out. Why? I'm the only Republican with Republican principles. Look at what Eric Adams did. He eventually dropped out because they have paved the way for this. They have allowed the socialists into their party. It was Governor Cuomo then who actually implemented every policy that has destroyed our state and destroyed our city. No cash bail. Zoran Mandami is in agreement with that. Raise the age. Now we have teenagers doing drive-by shootings. Close our only prison. That's what Zohan Mandami wants to do. He would never have been able to actually talk about how he could do that as mayor if Governor Cuomo hadn't do it. So, Mike, that's like having the arsonist suddenly show back up after burning your house down and pretending to be the firefighter. I'm the only candidate talking about cutting taxes. That's what's causing such a tremendous flight to places that you've not only broadcast from, but live. South Carolina, Texas, Florida, Tennessee. Incredible amounts of equity and wealth have already left without there even being a Mayor Zorhan Mandami. And I'm the only one saying we got to cut the income tax. We got to cut the corporate tax. The one tax I can cut is the property tax. And we have the first ever in the United States congestion pricing, which is nothing but a tax for cars coming into Manhattan. And it has been a complete catastrophe. All these small storefronts that are closing by the day, they don't have enough foot traffic. And the merchants, the men and women who hire the working class people that I represent in New York City, are fleeing in droves so my whole campaign is improved don't move and i completely disagree in every every campaign policy position than cuomo and zohan mandami in fact if you want to think of it this way because people really don't know zohan mandami he's very affable he's very nice it's like that song shot day smooth operator he's sort of the jp to barack obama He is Bill de Blasio on steroids. Bill was hated by the left, hated by the right by the time he destroyed the city after eight years. Andrew Cuomo is constantly reinventing himself. Nobody trusts him. He's the guy who's responsible for the deaths of 15,000 elderly because of his executive orders during COVID that he refuses to apologize for. And if your listeners and viewers want to know who's Curtis Leroy, Just think of Rudy Giuliani 2.0. Mike, last week, Rudy, with a broken back, rose up and said, enough of this Cuomo nonsense. The only real New Yorker, the only crime fighter, the only law and order candidate is my friend Curtis Schliwa. And you know, in a city like New York. When you mention Rudy Giuliani and you say that I'm Rudy Giuliani 2.0, that resonates with a lot of people who knows how he saved this city and was the greatest mayor that we've ever had.
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Well, Rudy Giuliani is 100% correct about you. It's a three-person race. It's Zoran Mamdani. It's Andrew Cuomo. It's Curtis Sliwa. I predicted last week something's got to give. I mean, something maybe has to change where Cuomo and Curtis somehow form any kind of a line. I want to just ask you that question. Is there any path forward? for a Curtis Lewa to say, I'm going to make Cuomo part of my administration if I'm the nominee? Is there any way that Cuomo says I'm going to make Curtis an important part of my administration if I stay in it over the next 22 days? Any chance of anything changing other than this three-person race between now and Election Day, Curtis?
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Mike, we are like two scorpions in a brandy glass, and that's all because of Cuomo. As you know, as governor, he was vengeful. He was vindictive. He believed in blood vendettas. He is a cold-hearted man. He is the reason we have so many homeless people on the streets, so many emotionally disturbed. He closed the mental health care hospitals. So every problem that plagues New York City is the result of what he did. And remember, just think of this. When President Donald Trump was being impeached, did he pick up and flee to Mar-a-Lago? No. He stood in Washington, D.C. When he was unfairly prosecuted by Tish James and Alvin Bragg in New York City, he went into court each and every time and stood there and had to deal with... the absolute insanity of the charges that were being waged against him. He never ran. He never retreated. Andrew Cuomo, when he faced impeachment by his own Democrats in Albany, fled, fled to the Hamptons. You cannot all of a sudden pave the way for a person who has waved the white flag and who recently said if Zoran Mandami were to win, he would flee to Florida also. That's not a leader. You need a leader. To help recover this city. And that's not Andrew Cuomo. No way. Let the people decide. I have a get out the vote effort. We know Zoran Mandami does. We've yet to see a get out the vote effort for Andrew Cuomo. That's good old fashioned retail politics. knocking on doors, making phone calls, giving out literature in the streets, and most importantly, where six million people traffic each and every day. The mass transportation of New York City, the subways, the buses, the express buses. Cuomo's not there. Zoran Mandami's not there. People have referred to me as the mayor of mass transit. It's our veins and arteries. It's where the crime is. It's where the mentally ill and homeless are. And I'm the only person fit to be able to get this city back on track.
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Well, I hate to personalize something like this, but I'm going to say it. There are three men running for mayor, and there is one good guy in this trio. And we're visiting with the one good guy in this race right now. It's the right thing to do to support Curtis enthusiastically. Sliwa4NYC.com. Sliwa4NYC.com. And this is, of course, a big national election as far as... I'm concerned. People from all over the country are talking about it. Curtis, I hope you feel the prayers that you're getting from millions of people all over America. I know that lifts you up. You and your wife, I know we're pulling for you. Look, Hillary had a 93% chance of winning in 2016. So I kind of like the Curtis Lee with chances. I appreciate you visiting with us a couple of weeks before the campaign. And, look, I'm going to tell you flat out, Curtis, as we close, I'm sorry that I wavered. I'm sorry that I stumbled. I'm sorry that I started looking at the pragmatic numbers and saying, wait a minute here, you've got to do the right thing. At the end of the day, you do the right thing every time, and the right thing will prevail. So my apologies, but, look, I'm just glad you're still in it, and I'm hoping for nothing but the best for you, Curtis, on Election Day. Keep fighting the good fight.
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I'm fighting for Republican principles, the only candidate to do so. We cannot sacrifice to the Democrats again. They destroyed our state, and they want to put the final nail in the coffin in our state.
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Amen. Well, you're the guy that can fix it. We're pulling for you, Curtis. Do you forgive me, Curtis?
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Oh, Padre Filius Spiritus Sanctum, I give you my blessing today. I just got to avoid the nor'easter that's coming in. I got to get in my gondola on this Christopher Columbus Day. First time they ever can't do this parade in 80 years because of the coming.
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I feel better already. Thank you for your blessing. God bless. See you. See you soon. Curtis Sliwa. Curtis, you go to Sliwa4NYC.com. Sliwa, he's a real character, and he's a good guy. And he's the right direction that New York should be headed in if they only see it. Hey. Maybe those with eyes that see will do the right thing. 21 past the hour, we've got a lot of breaking news. President Trump touching down right now in Egypt for the Big Peace Summit. He spoke to the Israeli Knesset earlier today. We've got all of that for you coming up. It's a big breaking news Monday, and I'm glad you're with us here in the Relief Factor studios. You ready to drop up to 20 pounds or more by the new year? Have you been struggling with belly fat forever? You know, the older you get, the harder it is to say goodbye to those unwanted pounds. PHD Weight Loss cracked the code. They have a metabolic reset system that's a science-backed way to get your body to burn fat first. Look, I've tried everything my whole life. I counted points. I counted calories. I did crazy starvation diets. Then I met Dr. Ashley Lucas, and I learned all about her brilliant program called PhD Weight Loss, the only program that guarantees your success and your results. If I can lose over 50 pounds and keep it off over a couple of years, you can too. Everybody can. When you call right now, they'll waive your consultation fee, you'll get two extra weeks free, and they'll cover the cost of your food during the program. Just for booking, you'll get Dr. Ashley's book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. Hurry, call today, 864-644-1900, Ph.D. Weight Loss, 864-644-1900, or visit their website at myphdweightloss.com.
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Mike Gallagher.
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So many presidents have made promises. So many other presidents have tried. They said they'd move the Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem where it belongs. Nobody got that done. Nobody did it until Trump came along. You think Kamala Harris as president would be achieving a peace deal? between Israel and Hamas. You think she would have ended the war? My gosh. In fact, here's an explanation of the kind of pressure that President Trump put on Bibi Netanyahu. This is a former Middle East negotiator. This is a guy who's been in the room negotiating deals. Aaron David Miller. And shockingly of all, This guy appeared on MSNBC.
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind we would not be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump. And prepared to talk to an Israeli prime minister in the way Trump has talked to Netanyahu. There are reasons for that, of course, because he's freed from the political constraints of pressuring Israel that basically have governed many American presidents. He owns the Republican Party. There are a few MAGA outliers that may oppose. Democrats, the three Chris's, Coons, Van Hollen and Murphy, all of whom are calling for restricting or conditioning U.S. military since Israel. So Trump has a lot more freedom of action here. And frankly, he's delivering. Let me let me let me.
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And you know, the great part you heard, you could hear you could hear his voice in the back. That was Al Sharpton. I didn't realize Al Sharpton was the host of that segment. You know how hard that had to be for Al Sharpton to hear one of his guests giving all this credit to Donald Trump? How about Abby Phillips over at CNN? How hard would this have been for her?
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There is a desire on the part of a lot of people in MAGA, and this is channeling, I'm sure, what Trump is feeling for credit. President Obama put out this post talking about the peace deal and the prospects of it. And Don Jr. responded to it. I'll finish it for you. Thank you, Donald Trump. Honestly, it's not unfair to say if President Obama is going to write a whole post about a peace deal, maybe he should acknowledge the president that brokered it.
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Ouch! Ouch! Abby Phillips, what are you saying? That Barack Obama is a classless, tacky... Guy didn't even have enough grace or courage or integrity to give Trump any credit? Is that what you're saying, Abby Phillips? Well, good for you. Good for you. You want to talk about credit for a moment? You know, there's a lot of drama over whether Trump would receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Of course, he would have deserved it. I still don't think he was eligible because the cutoff was January. But nonetheless... A lot of people ran with it and said that Maria Karina Mikado didn't really deserve it. Trump did. You know what's pretty wild? Even Maria Karina Mikado believes that Trump should have received it. And she said so over the weekend on Fox News.
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And I decided to dedicate it to President Trump because he deserves it. Because not only has he been involved in only a few months in solving eight wars, but his actions have been decisive to have Venezuela now at a threshold of freedom after 26 years of tyranny. that have destroyed the lives of millions of Venezuelans, destabilized the region and undermined institutions in the United States because having Venezuela as a safe haven of the enemies of the United States and using our territory and our resources hurt the American people and American institutions is certainly a threat to the national security of the United States and the security of the hemisphere. President Trump has been very clear, courageous in terms of dismantling this criminal structure. And on behalf of the Venezuelan people, I reaffirmed our gratitude and our commitment to this cause for the whole America. So I insist he deserves it. He deserves it, not her.
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Wow. Look, I know the conventional thinking is Trump will not, that the people that hate Trump are not going to change their minds. I don't agree with that. I think this has been a game changer. Look, this is a man who can forge peace, and he has proven it. This is a man who on the campaign trail said he can forge peace, and he would do it, and he did it. There are a lot of hardened hearts that have been softened by this week's events. Prove me wrong. 800-655-MIKE. Again, I know the conventional wisdom is to say, no, there's no way. People who hate him, they hate him. They won't change. There'll be a bunch of doofuses, a bunch of white hippie boomers out this Saturday at the No Kings protests. No, no. There are people who are, I mean, you can't say that the whole Trump-hating universe is blind and deaf and There's no way that the entire world of Trump haters can't see what's going on. And so, look, I think, again, it's easy to say it. I know the cynical part of us probably says, ah, they're not going to change. Yeah, they will. Not all of them. Maybe not even most. But many, many people just became Trump supporters today. Many, many Americans. became enthusiastic supporters of Donald Trump today. Am I right or wrong? You let me know. 800-655-MIKE. Join us. Every single day it's a joy to remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by MyPillow. As you know, our friend Mike Lindell, big legal victory last week. He's been in a ton of hot water, as you know, because he believes in election integrity. Of course, due to his friendship with President Trump. Well, last week there was a $5 million judgment against Mike that was overturned by the courts. Good news for MyPillow. So you keep praying for MyPillow, and you keep supporting this great American company. The premium MyPillow, limited time, great price, $18.98. If you go to MyPillow.com, this pillow is a godsend. Look, I bring the MyPillow products with me when I'm on the road. Here at the hotel in Washington State, I've got the MySlippers with me, those unbelievable slippers, because I pat around in the hotel room. I don't know what's on that rug. I bring the MyPillow with me. I roll it up into the suitcase. I've even got my MyPillow loungewear. Tons of great products. If you haven't been to the site in a while, go check it out. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. And you're going to save big. The slippers, the doggy beds. And the Giza Dream Sheets? MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Like we love to sing.
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Letitia James is the absolute worst possible poster child for the argument of selective prosecution. Her entire political career has been on the idea of selectively prosecuting one person, Donald J. Trump. When it comes to Letitia James, who ran an entire campaign saying she was going to go after Trump, the cases she brought, it was only because of Trump. I don't think the American people are going to have too much sympathy for it.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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You know, my dear friend Dennis Prager always talks about the pursuit of happiness and how happiness is, I think he wrote a book called Happiness is a Serious Problem. He always hosted the Happiness Hour on his show. I've got a message to people who would consider themselves never Trumpers or people who dislike Trump. Admit you were wrong about Trump and his supporters. Forgive yourself for sort of falling victim to all the propaganda you were fed. Come on over and join us. Join our team. I promise you will be happier. Guarantee you'll be happier. And you just have to have a little... Look, I admit when I'm wrong all the time. A few weeks ago, if you missed my interview with Curtis Lee, we'll have it posted on our podcast. We'll have it up at Video On Demand, of course, for Salem News Channel, snc.tv. We'll post it at mikeonline.com. It'll be all over the place. And I apologize to Curtis for wavering a few weeks ago in my support for him. He is the only guy that can fix New York. Not a scoundrel like Andrew Cuomo. You don't say, well, it's pragmatic to support Cuomo if you're a conservative. You don't say if you're a Republican, well, you've got to go for Andrew Cuomo. No, no. How about Andrew Cuomo? Why doesn't he step down? Nobody seems to mind calling, you know, nobody calls on him to stand down. Curtis is the one who has to stand down. No, there's not a single Cuomo policy that any normal, rational American can support. I don't know of a single Curtis Lewa policy that wouldn't benefit New York, that normal people shouldn't support. So you know what? You do the right thing. My friend Mark Davis kind of brought me around on this. And today I had the chance to apologize personally to Curtis Lewa. And Curtis, of course, in his typical Curtis fashion, gave me a blessing of absolution. He kind of used some Latin, and he did forgive me. But you can admit you're wrong. It's okay. You've been wrong about Trump. He's not Hitler. This is history. This is a new Middle East. This is the start of something massive. He is the peace president. You've been wrong. And it's all right to admit when you're wrong. And I'm judging by the emails I'm getting and the text messages and the calls. People are saying, no, no, I'm coming around on this guy. Well, I hope so. I hope when you see the video of these hostages being reunited with their loved ones, I hope when you see the tears of And you appreciate the joy that the entire Middle East, not just Israel, but the Muslim countries as well, they don't want this war. They don't want the carnage and the destruction and the despair. And one guy, one guy brought peace to this complicated process. Now, if you don't think things can get even crazier, hell just froze over. Is there a bigger Trump hater than Ana Navarro over at The View? Check out what she said today on The View.
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I'm I'm cautiously optimistic because we've been here before and then it's gone wrong. And I pray that this time it's different. I stayed up last night until I don't know, two or three in the morning watching the first batch of hostages as they were. released. And I love that there was a split screen that was showing the joy of the hostages being released, but also the throngs of people from Gaza walking back, a sea of people walking back into that city that's rubble. And you think of all the suffering, just Two plus years of relentless, unending, unimaginable suffering. The families suffering, the victims suffering, the hostages suffering, the people who had to flee Gaza, the innocent ones suffering. And for what? For what purpose were these two years of such pain? So, you know, honestly, let me just quote John Lennon. Can we please just try to give peace a chance? Yeah.
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Now, that's a different Ana Navarro from the Ana Navarro we've heard for years. And, of course, you can answer her question when she says, for what? You'd have to ask Hamas. You'd have to ask the men who raped and mutilated and burned alive and destroyed the lives of innocent Jews in Israel. Hey, Ana, you want to ask that question for what? Go ask the terrorists. Because they're the ones who did it. You want to know why there's not one living female hostage? You want to know why they slaughtered all the female hostages? The 20 living hostages are all men. It's because of what they did to those poor women. The hell that they put those women through. The torture, the rapes, the mutilation. And they didn't dare allow one living female hostage to tell the world what these monsters did to them. So they killed them all. Ana Navarro, you want to know why? That's why. That's why. One more example of nature healing. Charlemagne the God. And he isn't really one of the typical rabid Trump haters. Very popular morning personality in New York. Listen to Charlemagne the God explaining Donald Trump in a nutshell.
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Donald Trump shows me what's politically possible. Trump shows me what presidents can do if they want to do it. Donald Trump shows me what can be said if you are willing to say it. It's not about what can't be done. It's about who has the political will to do it. I don't want to hear a peep from Democrats about nothing until they get the balls to say what's really on their mind. In regards to this country and this world, Trump doesn't care if it sounds ridiculous. Trump doesn't care if it makes sense. It's no political correctness whatsoever. As I've been saying for years, the language of politics is dead. And Donald Trump killed it, period.
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He's right. And, you know, his comments make me think of what is the secret sauce, the superpower for Donald Trump. He just doesn't care. about the haters, about the critics. Look, none of us love to be criticized. None of us love it, right? It's not our favorite thing. When somebody writes me a hateful email or sends me a text or calls and is all enraged at me, it's uncomfortable. Nobody likes that. The key, the secret, is to ignore it. The secret is to ignore the No Kings protest this Saturday. The secret is to ignore the haters. That's the superpower, and that's Donald Trump's kryptonite. I got a superpower about weight loss. Later today, I'll be headed to South Carolina, big client appreciation day. I hope Dr. Ashley Lucas will be there. I think she's going to be there over at the melt. I think we're over at the melting pot tomorrow afternoon over there on Haywood Road.
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In this compelling episode of Washington Watch, Tony Perkins takes us on a journey beyond the headlines into major global and national issues from a biblical worldview. We begin with a significant development in the Middle East as Hamas releases the last Israeli hostages under a Trump-brokered ceasefire deal. While the international news focuses on joy and relief, questions remain on whether Hamas will disarm and whether peace will last. With insights from Congressman Keith Self and others, explore what's next for Israel and Gaza, and the political nuances at play, including President Trump's bold vision for the region.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Those were shouts and tears of joy, joy of answered prayers coming out of Israel, relief and celebration in Tel Aviv as Hamas released the last 20 Israeli hostages who were still alive. Welcome to this October 13th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, coming up, 20 hostages freed and a Trump-brokered ceasefire signed in Egypt, the first step toward ending the war in Gaza. But will it bring peace? Will Hamas disarm? Congressman Keith Self of Texas will join us to break it all down. Well, church attendance has been rising, and it has dramatically increased since Charlie Kirk's assassination. But are more people applying biblical truths to the world in which we live? Dr. George Barna joins us with new survey results, which may surprise you. We begin this evening with news out of the Middle East, relief and celebration across Israel and Gaza after Hamas released the last 20 living Israeli hostages under a U.S. brokered ceasefire deal. In return, Israel freed nearly 2,000 Palestinian detainees back into Judea and Samaria. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who has been following today's main stories. Casey, can you bring us up to speed on the latest out of the Middle East?
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Yeah, Tony, the Israeli military confirmed it has received all of the living hostages, and Hamas also handed over the remains of four who tragically died in captivity, with more expected to follow. In a speech at the Knesset, President Trump, he hailed the peace deal for Gaza.
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This is not only the end of a war. This is the end of the age of terror and death and the beginning of the age of faith and hope and of God. I believe that so strongly. This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East.
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After his speech at the Knesset, President Trump traveled to Egypt for an international peace summit. While there, he signed the Gaza ceasefire deal on camera alongside leaders of Muslim nations and European allies, Tony.
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Now, Casey, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not attend the summit in Egypt. How did he respond to the peace deal?
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Yeah, Tony. Well, President Trump, he called it a monumental moment in the history of the world, and he laid out this bold vision for Gaza's reconstruction, but Prime Minister Netanyahu, he's more measured in his response. Now, as far as his attendance, he reportedly did not go to Egypt due to opposition from the Turkish president, who reportedly didn't want him there, which is an interesting development. But speaking alongside Trump at the Knesset, Netanyahu, he reaffirmed Israel's commitment to peace.
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A proposal that opens the door... to an historic expansion of peace in our region and beyond our region. My friends, this is only a partial list.
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Now, Netanyahu, he's consistently insisted that Hamas must be dismantled and fully disarmed. And he did not endorse that broader reconstruction plan that Trump laid out for Gaza. So it seems, Tony, that Hamas is actually moving to regain control in Gaza, which is pretty troubling. They have masked fighters back on the streets today. And key questions remain. Is Israel going to fully withdraw? Who's going to run Gaza? And will Hamas ever disarm?
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A lot of big questions there, Casey. Thanks so much. Of course, we welcome the release of the hostages, which is an answer to our prayers. And here at FRC, we've been praying for this, like everyone else, for a little over two years. And, of course, we've got to continue to pray for Israel because I think the most challenging phase of the ceasefire deal lies ahead because there's no guarantee. And as you pointed out, it doesn't look like Hamas is making any effort to disarm or give up control. Turning to the growing persecution of the church in China, Casey, what can you tell us about the latest campaign by the Chinese Communist Party that unfolded over the weekend?
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Yeah, this is a big issue, Tony. So in China, over 30 Christian pastors and leaders have actually been arrested or disappeared. Many are from the Zion Church. Now, their homes and churches were raided, Bibles were taken, and families were threatened. Why? Because they chose to worship freely without the Chinese government's control. Now, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, he condemned the arrest, including that of Pastor Ezra Jin, and he's calling for their immediate release. Christian organizations, including China Aid, call this the worst crackdown in decades. And of course, it's gone going that China is using surveillance and false charges to silence believers like these, Tony.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks, Casey. You know, Dr. Bob Fu is a senior fellow here at the Family Research Council as well as president of China Aid, and he strongly condemned the Chinese Communist Party's ongoing attacks against the church. And I want to emphasize that FRC continues to raise the alarm about the persecution of Christians in China. We have been. We continue to do so. But not only in China, elsewhere. We've been talking to lawmakers on Capitol Hill about this consistently. And we have a responsibility as Christians to pray for our persecuted brothers and sisters. So it's not just a policy issue. It is a prayer issue. As Hebrews 13, 3 reminds us, remember those in prison as if you were together with them and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering. So pray for those Christian brothers and sisters of ours who are being persecuted. I want to shift very quickly, Casey, to California, where a controversial new law is raising concerns. We've talked about it before. Give us the update on AB495.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right, Tony. So this new California law, AB-495, it's raising major concerns among Christian and homeschooling families and others as well. But Governor Gavin Newsom, he announced yesterday that he actually signed that law just days after it passed the state legislature. And this bill, it could allow relatives, even unrelated adults actually, to make major decisions about a child's education and medical care. without clear parental consent. Now, Christian organizations, they're warning and raising the alarm, Tony, that this actually undermines parental rights and opens the door for government overreach.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Thanks, Casey. We'll talk a little bit more about that later. Thanks so much. All right, I want to go back to the latest developments in the Middle East, and joining me now to discuss this is Congressman Keith Self, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. He served our country in uniform in the United States Army for 25 years, retiring at the rank of lieutenant colonel. He represents the 3rd Congressional District of Texas, and I should mention he spent a good bit of time in Israel working with the IDF. Congressman Self, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Great day to be here, Tony. Thank you. So your reactions to the release of these hostages?
SPEAKER 18 :
This is a great day of celebration. When I was in Israel earlier this year, the number one issue, the only issue for the Israelites, the Israelis, the Jews was return of the hostages. Let's bring them home. Became a national cry. Bring them home. This is a great day of celebration. Should be around the world, 700 plus days in those hell holes of Gaza. Now they're home.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, unbelievable what they went through. And I know as you've talked to hostages who had been released, I have as well. And just what they endured is just unbelievable. And they're going to have a lot of recovery to do as they come out of that. And so this was one of the war goals that the Israelis, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had set out to release the hostages, but also to disarm and remove Hamas. Some concern that Hamas has been kind of filling the void as Israel's been backing away. What do we know about that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, they are. And we've seen this before, when one terrorist group is taken down, they morph. How do you change decades of training your children to hate Jews, to hate Israel, to say that Israel has no right to exist? How do you change that with one day, with one piece of paper? That will take time. And Hamas will morph into something else if it's not Hamas. But I will point out that now the other Middle Eastern countries have a responsibility to make sure that the negotiations and the treaty that they have signed will be implemented on the ground, because, as I say, a piece of paper means nothing. Let's implement it on the ground and get it done.
SPEAKER 04 :
So how optimistic are you that that's going to happen, given that even today, as the countries gathered, the leaders in the region gathered with the president, hosted by Egyptian President el-Sisi, that it was the Turkish president, Erdogan, that basically vetoed the presence of Prime Minister Netanyahu?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, as chairman of the Europe Subcommittee on Foreign Affairs, I've already held one hearing on Turkey, concerned about Turkey's NATO ally actions in the Middle East, looking to the east. I think this is very concerning, but we can never lose hope, Tony. We need to continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. We need to continue to pray that this will hold on the ground. But you asked me how optimistic I am. I have to be optimistic, but as a military planner for decades, I must look at it realistically and say that Hamas will do everything it can to cheat.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let me ask you this question, because we had 20 hostages who were alive were released. We had almost 2,000 Palestinian prisoners that were released, some of them in prison for murder. But they were released not to Gaza. These are coming from Judea and Samaria. They were released to Ramallah. I mean, we're told that the Palestinian Authority and Hamas are not connected, but it appears this deal does connect them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Of course it does. If they're released into Judea and Samaria, of course they are. And Israel does this every time there's a prisoner exchange. They release many more prisoners than they receive back. So this is the standard operating of the Middle East. Israel gives more than it gets. Look, it's tried to trade land for peace four times, and now it took President Trump to get this done.
SPEAKER 04 :
But is there concern with these terrorists who have been incarcerated being released into Judea and Samaria that that creates even more instability right there in the heartland?
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, absolutely. You think these people care what's on that piece of paper? Absolutely not. They will go back to include strapping bombs on themselves. So this is a very dangerous period. And Israel, because it's in Judea and Samaria, Israel needs to be very careful and very watchful of what they are doing. And I'm sure they are.
SPEAKER 04 :
Congressman Self, switching gears here. We just have a couple minutes left. Let's talk shutdown. Government's still shut down. Coming up day 13. What are we hearing?
SPEAKER 18 :
We're hearing it's going to be a while. On the 18th, they've got the Hate America rally on the Mall. We understand that it will not reopen. The Democrats will not vote for anything until after Hate the America rally on the 18th. So stand by. It's going to take a while longer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, I understand some conversations I had over the weekend that the president is working to to pay our men and women in uniform, the military, so that they will be paid during the shutdown.
SPEAKER 18 :
We're hearing the same thing. I'm not sure how he's going to do that because funding has stopped. I assume that he is finding funds that will bleed into this fiscal year and he will use it to pay the troops and take it from other programs. But we haven't heard what programs. We haven't heard exactly how that's going to work. And the speaker today warned that the troops may see a delay in their paychecks. So I think the details of this, as far as I know, are still being worked out, Tony. But the president has committed to it. So let's hope it works, because that is one of the big issues that he can take off the table and put more pressure on the Democrats.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, Congressman Keith Self, always great to see you. Thanks so much for taking time to join us today.
SPEAKER 18 :
You've done it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And folks, I want to encourage you, as I do often, to continue to pray for there's so much to pray about. And that's a part of our mission here at Washington Watch is not only to bring you news and information, but news and information that can inform your praying. because ultimately we need to appeal to the throne room of heaven to decide many of these issues because they're beyond our control. Coming up next, FRC has released the results of a new national survey. We're gonna talk about it next with Dr. George Barnett. Don't go away.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. All right, church attendance has been rising over the last couple of years for some demographics, and it has dramatically increased since Charlie Kirk's assassination. While that is good news, we need to ask, what is this attendance leading to? More biblically grounded Christians? Well, earlier today, Family Research Council, in partnership with the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University, released the results of a new national survey that gauged the opinions of regular churchgoers on various social issues, providing insight into their worldview. So what did we find? Joining me now to discuss this is the one who directed the research, Dr. George Barna. Dr. Barna is the Director of Research at Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center and a Senior Research Fellow at FRC Center for Biblical Worldview. He's the author of many, many books, including Raising Spiritual Champions. Dr. Barna, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hello, Tony. It's always great to be with you.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, George, so do we start with the good news or bad news first?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's up to you. We can go good news.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, let's get the bad news out of the way. What concerns did you have in the survey that you want to highlight?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, there are quite a few things that we took a look at, Tony. We looked at people's faith. We looked at their worldview. We looked at voting patterns, political engagement. We looked at their perspectives on abortion and family and Israel, all kinds of things. And what concerns me is that we're losing ground in the abortion battle where we've got more and more Christians who either don't care Or they're certainly not well informed about what the Bible teaches about it because we find that fewer of them are calling themselves pro-life. Fewer of them say that the Bible is clear and decisive when it talks about issues related to abortion, stands on abortion. There were losing ground in terms of the immorality of engaging in abortion. And with family, there were some things that concern me, such as the fact that a majority of churchgoing Christians don't even know how to define family. And so the culture really seems to be taking a good hit. on people's minds and hearts, those who are consistently attending church. They're confused by these things. And there wasn't as much support for Israel as you might have expected from regular churchgoers. And in terms of worldview, we're also seeing people becoming more confused, less informed, and therefore not really thinking like Jesus.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, as I look through some of the surveys, especially when you look at the life issue, some of the responses would say that there's this almost this syncretic faith that's developing, that people are merging cultural trends with their faith. But when pressed, it doesn't appear that they can point to any kind of biblical foundation for their views.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that's a large part of the problem. People may go to church, but it doesn't seem like they're coming out with anything that's moving them either toward a biblical worldview or toward biblical discipleship. So why do they go? They like being with other people. who they think are good people. And by the way, that's one of the things that our research is showing is that 70% of regular churchgoers, 70% of people who are self-identified Christians, 72% of theologically identified born-again Christians say that all people are basically good. which, of course, is a direct contradiction of Scripture. But that's just a sign, an indicator of what we're putting up with now, where people are not getting the kind of teaching and the kind of accountability that they need.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, I mean, it's good that people are going back into church. Church attendance is coming back up after COVID. are they getting the Word of God? It would appear to me that there's not a consistent systematic teaching of the Word of God and its application to the world in which we live.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, what we found is that sin is rarely talked about in the sermons. Three percent of sermons a few years ago when that was tracked. We don't want to deal with those things. What we are providing people more often than not is kind of self-help lessons. That's not bad, but it's not necessarily moving people closer to Christ.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nor making them witnesses to the truth of God that can provide answers to a watching world.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I mean, right now my personal research coming up to a book on discipleship is looking at what's taking place in terms of biblical discipleship. And we've got only about 3% of adults who meet Jesus' six criteria for what makes somebody a real disciple of his. And the problem, Tony, of course, as you know, is that we reproduce who we are. And so the church today is sending people out into the world saying, you've got to be active. You've got to be participants. Go make disciples. They can only reproduce who they are with 97% of the people in our church is not disciples. That's part of the problem. We're reproducing attenders, but we're not reproducing disciples of Jesus.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we just have a couple minutes left. George, let's get some of the encouraging results from the survey. What did you see in there that say, ah, there's hope on the horizon?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I mean, of course, we're always trying to look for foundations that we can build on. That's vitally important. And so we did find that two out of three people know what the definition of a legitimate marriage is. One man married to one woman. Found that six out of ten say that the Bible is clear and decisive in its teaching regarding religious liberty. And just slightly over half said that it's clear in its teaching about the morality of regarding abortion. That's not a great number. It's down from the past, but still we've got a foundation that we can build on there. Found that six out of 10 people have an orthodox biblical view of God and a little bit more than half say that the Bible is the true word of God. So, you know, it's not a perfect picture, but it's a picture that we can work with.
SPEAKER 04 :
But there are those that want instruction. They're asking for discipleship. And so I think the door is open for pastors and church leaders to begin teaching on these issues.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think the issue here may be one of boldness. What we've found is that pastors and church leaders tend to gauge the success of their church based on attendance, giving, number of programs, number of staff, people, and square footage. Jesus didn't die for any of that. Instead, if we were to stand up and say, all right, look, you may not like it, it may be uncomfortable, but this is what it takes to be a follower of Christ. If you're here, we believe you want to be a follower of Christ. Here's the recipe that Jesus gave us for that. I'm going to give it to you. Let's run with it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, that's how Jesus called people. He said, deny yourself, take up your cross and follow me. He didn't candy coat it. He said, there's a cost to following me. I think, George, I think that's the way forward. I think just challenging people. All right, we're out of time. George, always great to talk with you. We're going to unpack this more, I'm sure, so don't. Folks, don't go away. We're going to be back on the other side of the break with more Washington Watch.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in on this Monday. All right. It's we're into day 13 of the government shutdown. Of course, today is a federal holiday. So Congress is out. House is back in their districts. The Senate was on its way out on the weekend, leaving on Friday. And I spoke with House Speaker Mike Johnson about the shutdown for our weekend program this week on Capitol Hill. And I'd like to share a part of that conversation with you right now. Here's how that conversation went. So let me ask you this, Mr. Speaker, because, you know, CRs have become a way of life in Washington. And as you pointed out, trying to change that, get back to something we haven't done over two decades, the regular appropriations process. But normally those continuing resolutions. contain, you know, what some would call poison pills or something to make them distasteful to the other side, policy initiatives that the majority party puts in. What makes this one unique is that it's actually a continuation of what the Democrats had funded before. It's not a partisan bill from a standpoint of Republicans putting things in the CR.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's such an important point. Thanks for noticing that. It's a nonpartisan bill. In fact, it continues the Biden era spending and policies, the Biden era. Now, we loathe that as conservatives, as Republicans. We're trying to change it. We want to reduce the size and scope of the federal government. and spend less money and spend it more responsibly. That's what the appropriations process is intended to bring about. And we're forcing that muscle memory back. It's like pushing a boulder uphill, as I've explained to everybody. But it's happening. We just ran out of time. And people say, well, why didn't you get it done by September 30? Well, remember, the first six months of this calendar was eaten up by the passage of the one big beautiful bill, the reconciliation bill, the Working Families Tax Cut. And so our appropriators were very patient, and they got a little delayed on it, and we just needed more time. We sent it over in good faith, Tony. It's a great thing when the truth and the facts are on your side. We sent over a bare-bones document. I could have loaded it up with a bunch of Republican priorities and poison pills, as you said. We didn't do that. I just assumed that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats would do what they've done every year. I mean, they voted 13 times for CRs during the Biden administration. And when we were in the minority party, we never shut the government down or something like that because we knew real Americans would be hurt. But they seem not to care. You've seen what Chuck Schumer said two days ago. He said every day the government is closed is better for us. It is stunning to me that they say these things out loud. He tried to clean up on aisle five after that, but that tells you what they really think. He's getting accolades from the far left, and that is 100 percent what all this was about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, let's talk about those accolades for the far left, because as the Republicans put forth this clean CR, no policy priorities for the Republicans— What the Democrats are making this about is an extension of something that expires at the end of this year, which were COVID-era Biden or Obamacare premium subsidies. This was done during COVID. It was, you know, when that passed, they were supposed to expire. But, of course, the underlying issue here is the Affordable Health Care Act, also known as Obamacare, you know, funds abortion, funds transgender surgeries. They're making this about radical left policies.
SPEAKER 03 :
They are. And never forget, when the government subsidizes something, it means it's not working. Obamacare did not achieve what they promised everyone that it would. It was supposed to bring down the cost of care. It's done the opposite. Premium's gone up 60% since Obamacare became the law in 2010. Everybody knows it's not working. So now they want to prop it up with these subsidies, just as they did, for example, with electric vehicle mandates. Nobody wanted to buy electric cars, so they said, we'll pay you. The government will pay you $7,500 if you do it. That means it's not working. If there would be any extension of these subsidies, which are COVID-era plus-ups, to people that are some wealthy people who don't even need it, there would have to be massive reform to that. And that's a very complicated thing to build consensus around in Congress. So they have bootstrapped a end-of-the-year policy matter. The subsidies don't even expire until December 31st, and they're trying to pretend that it has something to do with September's end of fiscal year funding measures. It's apples to oranges. It's totally different things. They all know that, but they're trying to – they just had to pick a cause so they could show a fight against Trump and get accolades.
SPEAKER 04 :
But Mr. Speaker, the Republicans have never supported these subsidies. So why do they think they would vote for them now? What's the off ramp for the Democrats here with this shutdown that they now own?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, they painted themselves in the corner and there isn't any off ramp. And the point about the clean CR is I can't go to that CR document that we passed out of the House three weeks ago and sent over and pull off Republican priorities and somehow make it more palatable for Democrats. I don't have anything to bring back. I sent them a totally clean measure. And that's the whole point. They are not operating in good faith. They are lying to the American people. And they're trying to mislead people so that Chuck Schumer can appease the Marxist left. This is reality. There's a rising Marxist movement in the Democratic Party right now. They're about to elect a mayor of New York City who is at that ideology. Chuck Schumer serves from the state of New York, and he's terrified he's going to get a challenge in his next Senate reelect. That is all this is about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mr. Speaker, we've just got about a minute left. Scuttlebutt on Capitol Hill was that next weekend in D.C. is going to be a no-kings rally. And the idea or the word, I should say, on the street is that Chuck Schumer cannot open the government back up with that crowd coming to town because that's the leftist crowd that's putting pressure on him.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's exactly right. We call it the hate America rally because it will be a collection of the pro Hamas wing and the, you know, the socialist and the Marxist and all the rest. And yes, they're coming to the National Mall on October 18th. And Chuck Schumer is terrified of that group. And it is being whispered around here that there's no way he could open the government before that is finished because they would. Someone said, quote, they would need his head on a spike. OK, they're speaking metaphorically. But to him, that's real business. And that's why he's doing this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in and being a part of the program. All right. It is not too late to join FRC and other like-minded followers of Jesus this Friday at the PrayVote Stand Summit. I know it's Monday, but Friday will be here before you know it. It's actually taking place at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in Southern California. I'm heading there in the morning. I'll be broadcasting most of the week from the studios at Real Life Network. It is October 17th and 18th, Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. It's such a timely event with all that is going on, not only in the United States, but literally around the world. So to find out how you can be a part of it, go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. There's still time to register and to be a part of the event. Our word for today comes from Romans chapter 1. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power in Godhead, so that they are without excuse." God's presence and power are so evident in creation that Paul declares mankind is without excuse for rejecting God. The beauty, order, and design of the created world testify to a creator. Yet the problem begins when truth is not merely ignored, but deliberately suppressed. In verse 21 it says, You see, ingratitude darkens the heart. When humanity refuses to acknowledge God, confusion follows. Professing wisdom, people became fools. Trading the glory of the incorruptible God for lifeless images. The descent began with suppressing truth, and it ends in spiritual blindness and death. For more on our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. That's BIBLE to 67742. Well, while much of the world's attention has been on the long-awaited release of hostages held captive by Hamas, there were other developments that deserve attention as well, from church crackdowns in China to the assault on parental rights in California. So here to discuss them with me is our panel for today, Travis Weber, Vice President for Policy and Government Affairs, and Casey Harper, Managing Editor for Broadcast at The Washington Stand. Travis, Casey, thanks for joining me today. Thank you, Tony. All right. Obviously, the big news out of the Middle East. Casey, we've discussed this at the top of the program, but I want to go beyond the headlines. Now, we're thrilled about the hostages. I've met with many of the hostage families and with some of the hostages that have been released. In fact, we've hosted some here at FRC. But beyond the celebration, there is still a lot to do. Now, it's clear that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu understands this. Because in a televised address last night, he said, quote, the campaign is not over, warning that Israel still faces very big security challenges. He said some adversaries are trying to recover to attack us again. So how are those comments being interpreted in the wake of the hostage release?
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Yeah, well, Tony, I'm raising some eyebrows for sure. And I think there's honestly a little bit of confusion right now where we're asking the question, how does what Netanyahu is saying line up with President Trump? And I think it reflects some behind-the-scenes ongoing dialogue and tension between the U.S. and Israel, not fighting, but tension between what are the details, you know, the devil's always in the details of this peace plan. What's it actually going to look like as it works out? Of course, famously, Hamas did not agree to the full peace plan. They only agreed to part of it. And there was Axios' report that the White House denied about a conversation between Netanyahu and President Trump, where they sort of had a spat, where President Trump was frustrated that Netanyahu wasn't more excited about the partial acceptance of this peace plan. And so the hostages coming back is great. Of course, President Trump is spiking the football. And Netanyahu has sort of come around in his public rhetoric, saying this is good. that there is going to be peace. And he said, he used the word hopefully will be peace for years to come. And I think that's pretty reflective of where Israel is right now. Hopefully this is going to work out well.
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Travis, of the stated war goals that Israel had in this war with Hamas, number one was to get the hostages back. That's now happened. At least the live hostages are back. Second was to eliminate Hamas and ensure that Gaza was not under the control of the Islamists any longer. What we've seen reports today, Hamas has started deploying armed fighters and police across parts of Gaza as Israel withdraws. And this is an attempt to apparently reassert authority in devastated areas of the of the territory.
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Yeah, no, exactly that. So if the goal is to not have them exert control, it is, I would argue, one of the definitions. It's part of the definition of control to have armed men on the streets giving orders and backing up those orders with the force of weaponry and lethal force. So by that definition, they're in control of parts of it. And there appears to be a struggle for control perhaps in other parts. But that should remind us all that when Israel is withdrawing, They're leaving a vacuum, and into that vacuum swept Hamas 20 years ago, and they're now sweeping into it once again.
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But is this possibly, you know, the first step on a multi-step journey? I mean, it's got to start somewhere. And we certainly applaud the work that the president has done. But there were some other disturbing developments as the president left to go to Egypt for a summit of all of the Islamic partners, all the Arab partners here being hosted by President el-Sisi of Egypt. Last minute. This is according to news reports. Last minute reports was that the president wanted Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to attend, but he was prevented from attending because of objections by Turkey's President Erdogan. Travis.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, Tony, this is disturbing because on the face of it, if you look at that table today, you had Trump in the United States, then along with Qatar, Egypt, and Turkey at the prominent seats on that table purportedly to broker a peace between Israel and Hamas. So that would assume a neutral arbiter. So why would a neutral arbiter refuse the presence of one of the parties for which they are supposedly playing arbiter and mediating the peace. It doesn't make any sense. It only makes sense if they're not actually a neutral arbiter, they're not a neutral mediator, and they desire to put their finger on the lever of this scale in some direction. And we have plenty of evidence of that in other regard, that Turkey and Qatar were aligned with Hamas in being a neutral mediator in this case.
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I want to play a clip of the president. He spoke before the Knesset this morning, our time. And I want to play clip number three.
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This is not only the end of a war. This is the end of the age of terror and death and the beginning of the age of faith and hope and of God. It's the start of a grand concord and lasting harmony for Israel and all the nations of what will soon be a truly magnificent region.
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All right, Travis, I'll give you the first crack at that. Your thoughts?
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Tony, I think we all wish for that to be true, but we can't say it's true when we have obvious challenges to deal with, notably Hamas's refusal to really comply with the conditions and the spirit behind the conditions of this supposed peace. And so we must address those and recognize, as the president is doing in a larger sense, that God is the only one, is the only one who can really, truly ever bring total peace to that region. And, Tony, I'll just say, of course, we're celebrating the fact that the hostages have returned, absolutely. But there were three lawmakers, at least, members of the Knesset who protested President Trump's speech there today and did not attend because they feel so strongly that this will not bring peace, and they feel so strongly that this is allowing Hamas to remain, to rearm, and to bring future carnage and death to those in Gaza and Israel alike. Casey?
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Yeah, well, clearly President Trump, he's putting this in grand time, talking about an age. And he says at one point in his speech, he said, you know, it took 3,000 years to get this. Basically, who would have thought that I could have done it? And so he's seeing this as a literally historic deal. I mean, I think people have been in this part of the world, people like Netanyahu for a long time, are probably more pessimistic because they know about the deep-seated hatred for Israel in places like Turkey, but of course not Russia. reserved for Turkey. So he's marking this as historic. I think there's a problem, though, Tony, and this could be an interesting question for you, which is if Hamas violates this deal in it more than they seem like they already might be about to do, and then Israel goes back in militarily, I think it's setting Israel up potentially to look like they're the ones who violated a peace deal that everyone else was on board with. And so it could be setting up a situation where Israel either has to not respond to Hamas's violation of the deal or risk losing even more international support and being blamed for the start of a new war.
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I think this does increase the pressure on Israel. But there's also a reality there post-October the 7th that what Benjamin Netanyahu described is untenable to the Israeli people. They cannot live with this risk on their border. Now, I applaud President Trump in his efforts, but I do think we have to be realistic. I mean, scripture makes very clear that true and lasting peace will only come when the prince of peace reigns now that does not mean we wash our hands of responsibility i think until that day comes we are called to pursue a managed peace all right i believe we need to try to get peace in the world but that has to be grounded in strength guided by truth anchored in biblical reality and i think As you pointed to, Casey, the history there is very important. It is not just a geopolitical conflict. It is a spiritual conflict as well. Again, that does not mean that we should be settled or we should settle for perpetual conflict. Not at all. But we need to pray into this. And so I know we're going to move on to another topic, but I just want to challenge our viewers and listeners to be praying for the peace of Jerusalem, the peace of Israel. And that encompasses all the people, the Palestinians, the Arabs, the Israelis. Peace will be good for everyone. And so we need to pray and work to that end. anchored in biblical reality. All right, speaking of peace, there's not a lot of peace in China if you're a Christian. Travis, speak to what happened over the weekend.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so there appears to have been a coordinated widespread crackdown on the underground Christian church that has been launched by the Chinese Communist Party, the Chinese authorities. This appears to have started with Zion Church Network, a large influential underground church network, who some folks might remember during COVID, stood up against the government there. So they're an influential, important network, pastors in multiple cities in a coordinated crackdown, detained and taken away at the same time. Sometimes churches raided during the services as they took place. In one instance, you know, a mother was breastfeeding her child and they were taken in together and then Another family member was called to take the child home from the police station. So this is disrupting churches, the leadership in those churches, pastors, the cohesion of families and those bodies, the local bodies of Christ in those places. Now, this crackdown appears to have been now spread at the direction of the government there. They're extending it to other underground church networks. So Very significant, our friend Bob Fu, who's a senior fellow with Family Research Council, in addition to founder and president of China Aid, is saying this is the most significant crackdown he is seeing in four decades. And that's significant because he's tracking these issues almost daily. And so he's saying this is really significant coming at this time, right, as the world's attention is focused on the release of the hostages yet. forces of evil at operation in authoritarian, coercive regimes like the CCP are exerting their power and influence to detain God's people. And so this is a call to prayer for these detained believers, fellow believers in China. But folks should be aware this is a very significant move by the Chinese government.
SPEAKER 04 :
So I do want to underscore that because we talk about China a lot, because China is a totalitarian government. They're always doing bad things. But as you mentioned, Bob Fu, who... actually was a part of the initial protest back in the 80s and fled China and has come to the United States. And as you said, a senior fellow here, he puts an exclamation point on what is happening there, that this is unusual. I'm wondering, was the timing of this surrounding the distraction with the rest of the world looking on to the Middle East? Because China often takes advantage of those opportunities.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Tony, it very well could be, because the initial, the reports have said they, the initial raids were on October 10th. Bob says they actually began, they started, I think, on October 9th, late in the day, certainly as the world's attention is focused on the events in the Middle East, the coming release and negotiations. So, I don't think we'll know precisely at this point. Obviously, it's also possible that China is just concerned, the government's concerned about the growing influence of the church. I mean, Christianity, underground Christianity, I think at the most conservative estimate, 60 million, some up to 100 million or more. That is very significant in terms of the impact those Christians could have on China as a blessing to the country, but a threat to the Chinese economy.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. We just have less than two minutes left. I want to switch gears to go to a domestic issue. And, Casey, yesterday, California Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law AB495, a very concerning piece of legislation that we've been tracking here at FRC. Give us a recap of this bill and why so many people are concerned.
SPEAKER 02 :
Sure, so AB-495, it broadly expands basically the way in which your children can get taken away from you. I mean, that's kind of an extreme way of saying it, but that's how critics are characterizing it. And the stated intention of the bill is that if someone's parent, you know, if two parents are being arrested by immigration enforcement or maybe deported, They want to make it easier for signing that child's custody over to a family member or not even a family member sometimes. And so they remove almost all restrictions or verification needed to sign away a child to someone else. Now the concern is that this is setting a really dangerous precedent for California officials or even a family member or family friend to sign over your custody of your child away from you for a whole host of reasons. you know, transgender care not being the least among them in a state that is really pioneering, taking kids away from parents for things like transgenderism, but not just that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, and many thought that he might not sign this to kind of portray himself as a little more moderate, but obviously his true color is coming through. By the way, this will be a focus this coming weekend at the PrayVote Stand Summit in California, Southern California at at Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. Folks, you can find out more, prayvotestand.org. Travis, Casey, out of time. Thanks so much for joining us today. Thanks, Tony. Thank you. And folks, I want to thank you for joining us as well. But again, check out prayvotestand.org and join us if you can. Until next time, I leave you with the words of the Apostle Paul, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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In this insightful conversation, John Rush and Ammon Blair explore the impact of cultural shifts on physical fitness standards in the military. Against the backdrop of increasing obesity rates among National Guard members, Blair advocates for innovative solutions, including a proposed military bill for better soldier health oversight. Discover how these systemic challenges affect recruitment, readiness, and national security in this thought-provoking episode.
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All right, and we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thank you all for listening. Our next guest today is set a moment ago. Welcome, and you've been with us many times. Ammon Blair, welcome back. How are you guys? By the way, I should have started off that way, but I'm reading text messages and trying to talk at the same time. That doesn't work out very well, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
No worries. Thank you for having me back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, we're going to talk about overweightness in the National Guard. And one thing I just got, and this is the message I was reading to try to be prepped for you. It says, I served in the Texas National Guard, Army National Guard, Black Hawk Company commander for three years. One thing to note, like Alaska, which used to be majority native Alaskas, Texas is largely Hispanic. Another BMI tends to run higher in those individuals than it does in Caucasians. So I wanted to throw that out there as we got started talking to you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, sure. I think that's just an excuse. Look, there was a report that recently just came out, I think it was in July, that stated that the National Guard is 68% overweight or obese. Okay. And it's all due to a few things. One, National Guard soldiers are typically not given the opportunity like active duty. They don't have a gym. They don't live on a base or a post. Everything is on their own discretion. They only go to drill one week in a month. And so as a non-commissioned officer or an officer, you have to try to do as much as you can to try to get them to motivate themselves. to conduct PT on their own or eat healthy. And really, there's no incentive to do so when the rules are quite lax. And what I mean by that is a majority of the Texas Army National Guard soldiers that are currently on deployment came from Operation Lone Star on the border. And when you're on the border, you're on state active duty orders, not regular active duty orders like Title 32 or Title 10. Therefore, you were only covered by workers' comp. You're not covered by military health insurance. So a majority of these soldiers, thousands of soldiers that were on duty, were only covered during duty hours. Meaning if you did PT or anything else like that, you were not covered if you got injured. Therefore, it was a directive by the general officers in Texas to not mandate soldiers to conduct PT. So now... you have a massive amount of soldiers and airmen inside the Texas Army and Air National Guard that do not meet our height and weight policies. A lot of them didn't conduct the same training as the ones that were continuing to do drill. They weren't doing PT. And so you have this case now that they're on Title 32 orders and they must meet these requirements that they're supposed to meet even if they're on state active duty orders. But now they don't. And so now you have a situation where they go and they deploy to Illinois or they deploy to another state to conduct force protection on federal facilities and against as well as federal agents. And now they can't even meet their own standards in the military.
SPEAKER 08 :
And again, and by the way, I understand what the text you're saying, and I get it. There are certain individuals where their BMI might be a little higher than average. On the same token, Ammon, I have experienced numerous individuals have friends of different ethnicities and so on, and I also recognize realize that a lot of that does come down to, and you stated it, it does come down to how active are we? Are we eating correctly? Are we being incentivized to do so? Are we doing our PT like we need to? In other words, I've known all sorts of different individuals, even those that struggle with weight, that can still maintain and do what they need to if they're careful about it. If they're incentivized, maybe is a better way to say that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, 100%. You know, we actually drafted a MAHA military bill here in Texas. We drafted it to make it so that way all National Guard soldiers actually have an app where they have a customized meal plan. They have a complete online persona where it goes and tracks everything from food to workout sessions to everything so that they can meet all the requirements. But what was interesting is when – and any of your listeners can look this up. What was interesting is when I testified on it, the Texas Military Department came in not in support of it. And the reason they did that is because they would have direct oversight by our Texas legislature for mandating them to meet federal requirements. Now, the requirements that are given to each and every airman and National Guard Army soldier – are done through the federal government, through the Department of War. And it is the state's responsibility every drill weekend. It is the state's responsibility to oversee that they actually meet the federal requirements. And so actually, if you do not meet federal requirements, the federal government can actually pull funding from you. And so a lot of times what will end up happening is soldiers, noncommissioned officers and officers will then pencil whip the the grading system of the pt standards and put it into a management system called dtms that shows that they are 100 in compliance and so there's really no oversight and so this bill would then create oversight by our state legislature Meaning, no, you're now going to have to show that your soldiers are 100 percent meeting the readiness standards as required by the Department of War and that you are ready and willing for war. But they did not like that part. They did not like the oversight from the state.
SPEAKER 08 :
So where do we go from here? You know me. I'm kind of a solutions-oriented guy. I know you are as well. Given what Pete Hedset just announced here just a few weeks ago, a couple weeks ago is all it was, I'm on. At the end of the day, where do we go from here, and how do we get even what he's talking about among the armed forces he's in control of? And this is where you're more of an expert than I. Does he have control over National Guard? How does that work?
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Yeah, he does. So the majority of all National Guard soldiers, even when you go to drill weekend on the weekend, you're on Title 32, meaning that you are your funding is federally is from the federal government. It's not from the state. The state is then given the charge to conduct the training so that you make the meet their lease out requirements that exit is talking about and then readiness requirements. But if you continue to fail to meet those requirements, there needs to be repercussions to National Guard leadership. And one way that you can do that is what we do when we deploy for war, you go and typically you go to a pre-deployment site where they grade you. A third-party unit, usually like First Army, an active duty unit, will then grade you to see if you can meet the war, the requirements to meet your military occupation, especially. So like if you're infantry, can you meet the basic standards of team, squad, and platoon level infantry battle drills? And so what we can do and what may end up having to, that he has to do is do third party testing on all National Guard soldiers, which is unfortunate. And that kind of shows that can we really trust our NCO Corps? Can we really trust our military men and women to do the right thing and be honest. You know, when I, when I was in the border patrol, when we first went into DHS, all of our PT, um, when we went into UPT, it was video recorded. It had a recorder. So there was no, uh, you couldn't contest it. Um, and so we're going to need some third party accountability because unfortunately, as you saw what happened when they deployed to Illinois, uh, The pictures can show that it wasn't just, oh, they're Hispanic, so their BMI is a little much. No, they were severely overweight or obese. And so you can go down to the border now and you can see that on Operation Lone Star. You can clearly see that they're not meeting height and weight standards in the military. And so really probably just like when you deploy overseas, you may need to have a third party or active component to conduct your PT test and standards.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And again, for all of you listening in Ammon, you've got, you know, direct history as you're talking about right now, but Texas Public Policy Foundation, you guys watch these things on a routine basis. And, and I guess, You know, lastly, because there's always going to be some naysayers and folks out there where they're like, well, wait a minute. Don't a lot of these guys now sit in, you know, drone operators, for example. They're not really out active duty doing anything. There's a lot of, you know, behind the scenes things that happen. And there's guys that are maybe they just drive the truck or whatever the case may be. You know, why would they have to pass all these same standards? I mean, I know the answer to that. But what would your answer be to those folks that would say that?
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Yeah. So first and foremost, there's a direct correlation between your mental capacity and your physical capacity. Correct. The higher your physical capacity, the better your mental capacity is. So at the end of the day, the Department of War, just like PXS is, is to close with and kill the enemy. When you go to combat, regardless of what military occupation specialty you are, whether you're a truck driver or not, unfortunately, you may end up meeting the realities of war. We saw that during the Iraq War where mechanics And truck drivers went out there, and they got lost. And guess what? They were bombed. They were hit with IEDs. They were ambushed. And so you never know at what point in your military career, if you end up going overseas and continue operations, regardless of what military occupation specialty you are or what job you do, you may end up in a situation where you have to uh defeat an enemy and in order to do that you need the full mental reservation possible and you need to meet the certain requirements um uh and in order to do so you need to have such a high level of physical capacity so that way you can you can attack any situation under the the stresses of combat and so every single person has to go to basic training where you have to meet these requirements everyone has a baseline now there are certain um But baselines that are more, like if you're in combat arms, if you're an infantryman, you should have a higher baseline than, say, a truck driver. Especially if you're in light infantry like I was, you're going to be carrying your house on your back, right? You're going to be rucking everything with you. And so there are special requirements for certain MOSs and for combat specialties. But just like you know and a lot of your audience will know, to all those naysayers, The best way that we can make sure that our young men and young women of the United States are level-headed and have the full mental capacity is to make sure that they are completely healthy and have the full physical capacity to conduct these operations.
SPEAKER 08 :
And again, and I know for there's some folks listening that are, you know, trying to chime in, Ammon, that, well, you know, there needs to be some exceptions for certain people. And maybe there's somebody who's got a lot more muscle mass and the BMI is not. And I agree. BMI is not always the exact measurement. It is a tool. And I will say that it's sort of like ASE testing in the automotive world. It's a baseline. No, it doesn't give you every single thing that you need out of that. And, yes, there can be some variations of, and those are the one-offs. But in general, I think it's a pretty decent starting point for most men and women. Am I right in saying it that way?
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No, 100%. We also have the tape tests, but also now our secondary. You can now opt in to get a bod pod. It's no longer just the BMI. And now finally, finally, the government has shifted to a more credible services and understanding how much body fat you actually have. And so you can actually go like here at Camp Mabry in Austin, Texas. They have bod pods that you can come and get tested. And so you have the ability now to actually get the body fat percentage of what you are. But if you're stating that, OK, I do have a high BMI. you still should be able to pass the bare minimum physical requirements. To be honest, the physical requirements now is less than when I came in the military. Look, I was during that transition, I was a drill sergeant during the Obama era, and we saw that shift from old school Army PT to a PRT. which was dramatically different and less because they kept saying that the culture of the new generation is a weaker culture, and so therefore we must weaken the standards when they come into basic training. And so I saw this shift all the way back in 2008 when I went to drill sergeant school. And then when I was a drill sergeant from 2008 to 2010, we already started seeing that shift. But unfortunately that Overton-Winnipeg shifted so much that then now it's led to where we're at today, where the military kind of looks like what society is.
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Yeah, good point. Well, and I think, you know, not to keep going here because I know we're short on time, but I think what you just said, you know, we need better examples even for how— you know, the rest of us live. And I talk about this every Wednesday. I do health and wellness on Wednesdays here on my program. I spend an hour each week talking about the very thing you and I are talking about right now. And you're right. We have an entire society. Colorado happens to be healthier, one of our healthier states. But the reality is you can go to a lot of other places, including here, and see a lot of folks that aren't so healthy, quote unquote, because of the things that we I'll just say it right now, Ammon, the things that we eat. It's interesting. My dad's had some issues going on, and he's in memory care, so we spent some time with him this weekend. I don't watch a lot of TV. I'll just be straight up honest. Not somebody that watches TV. But I was commenting to my wife that as we were watching a little bit of TV over the weekend because it's just on in the room, I was mentioning to her that every single food ad, every fast food ad that came on, Ammon, every single ad for food was crap we shouldn't eat.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, 100%. And it's so funny that it's all sponsored by organizations that also sell the pharmaceuticals when you're sick.
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Yeah, no comment.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so like when you go to combat, it's like buying your bandages from the same people that are selling you the bullets.
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Right.
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You know? Right.
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Yeah, no, people don't realize this, but way back in the late 70s, early 80s, the tobacco companies, knowing they were going to lose out on the cigarette end of things, bought up food companies.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go figure. It's so interesting. So, like, when you kind of peel away the skins of the onion, you'll find out these organizations want to stick so that we have to buy their solutions.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. Well, and unfortunately, you know, circling this back around to what's happening in our military, National Guard included, it's affected them as well. This is a widespread problem. It's not just limited to civilians. It's across the board.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, across the board. And now you can look at it in our recruiting as well. So over 70% of the people that try to get in the military can't. Wow. It's because of their physical fitness standards and also their mental health.
SPEAKER 08 :
Gotcha. Gotcha. All right. How do folks find your organization? I've got the website in front of me, but give folks what it is so they can find you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure, yeah. If everyone wants to go to TexasPolicy.com, you can see what we talked about, my op-ed there that I wrote for the Daily Wire about this specific issue, and also the bill that we helped carry in the state legislature. It's the Maha Military Bill. It can all be found on our website.
SPEAKER 08 :
Ammon, it's always a joy having you. I appreciate it. You're always a great resource. I learn something every time you're with us.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much for always having me.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're very welcome. Appreciate you. We'll talk again soon.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, talk to you soon.
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All right, we are back. Now, this is more of a PSA. I think I've got time to say this in the next five minutes. Richard's going to join us here at the bottom of the hour. So this happened to me personally. So if it's happening to me, I know it's happening to others. And I got two calls. In one of the first call, I actually called back, and I kind of felt like it was not on the up and up, and it was in a day where I was super busy and didn't have time to really do anything else, so I just hung up and didn't worry about it. Well, they got another phone call. And this is a call supposedly from Chase. Yes, I've got some Chase credit cards. So this is supposedly a call from Chase about a dispute that I've got on my credit card, which I did have a dispute several months ago. In fact, I had one where somebody had used the card. It wasn't me. So they sent me a new card. On and on we go. You know the routine. Any of you out there that have had any of this happen, you watch your transactions, and if something comes up where it's like, yeah, I didn't do that, you call and say, hey, that wasn't me. They take care of it, and off you go. By the way, it's why you use a credit card versus a debit card. All that to be said, I got a phone call from supposedly Chase that came on a phone number that I use only for work purposes that's not associated with my Chase Bank card. And it had the old number of the card I had prior to the new card being issued. Those were all my red flags. And so I actually called it the one day, and I said, is this a scam? Are you guys for real? No, if you don't think this is real, just call the back of your card. And I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe these guys are real. So they called again today. And the first time they called was last week. So they called again today. And I actually did call this time. And I went a little further. And here's where this gets really interesting. Scary, in a way, for people that don't know better. Because I did actually end up calling the actual number on the card after I did this. And here's the scariest part. Both greetings identical. The scammers had to have recorded literally same tone, same everything, word for word. They had to have copied somehow digitally through, you know, just listening on hold. Had to have copied that exact greeting because it's the exact same greeting you get when I called the scam number. And as I'm going through this phone call with the scammers, they're asking me, you know, my name, which I wouldn't give. They're asking me the card number, which I wouldn't give. So I'm thinking to myself, well, they should already have all of this. They should know me. In fact, when you call Chase, your number is kind of already recorded and they know who you're calling, what you're calling from and so on and so forth. And it's kind of automatic at that point. Anyways, I wouldn't give them any information. Now, here's the other thing that's kind of an indicator. Normally with the credit card companies, there will be a menu of push, you know, one for this, two for this. That didn't exist on the scammer call. You just went through the whole message thing, and then somebody answered. And they start asking you for your name, your card number. You know, you're calling about a fraud incident, et cetera, et cetera. So they've got a certain amount of this correct, and they probably have – because of the original scamming that went on, that card's probably on the dark web, and so they've acquired it some way, somehow. And they're wanting you to call them, and probably, I didn't go through the whole process, but I'm guessing at some point, they would have asked me for the new number. I didn't get that far, because I realized what was going on, and I didn't want to be on phone any longer than I needed to be, but I'm guessing you would have got to that point. Here's my whole point with the PSA. If you ever have somebody call you from so-called bank about such and such, grab your card, call the number on the back of the card only. Don't call whoever they left you a message, you know, what number to call back on. Only call the number on your card. And in my case, I did. I got a hold of somebody that got on the phone and I said, I'm calling you because I got another phone call telling me to call them because there was an issue with a chargeback and so on and so forth. And the guy's like, well, let me check a few transactions. Let's double check to make sure everything's OK. And he read me the transactions like, yep, those are all good. No problems. And he's like, I see nothing else on here that had to be a scam call. I'm glad you called me. There's nothing you need to do. We're all good on our end. Everything right now is secure. There's no issues. Thank you for calling. My point is you could have easily. gotten scammed on that, given them all sorts of information that would have then given them even all of the new card info so they could then keep charging and doing what they wanted to do nefariously. And that's what scammers do. And believe me, it sounded legit. And I'm not exaggerating. It sounded legit. And part of the problem, this is a knock against Chase. I'll just say it as it is. Because they all use foreign phone banks, everybody sounds the same. And I'm not saying that in a critical way. It's just the truth. When I called the bad number, I got the same sounding individual that answered as I did when I called the real number. That's what makes it so difficult. Because you can't hardly tell from the people you're speaking to who's legit and who isn't. but here's my PSA, only call the number that's on the back of your card no matter what message was left. And then ask them, did you call me? Do you need anything about my card and my account? Has there been anything flagged? In other words, I want to make sure that everything's correct. Don't call the number that somebody left you to call back. Only call the number on the back of your card, or you're going to get scammed. So in my case, once I went through all of this, I went on my phone, I blocked that number, you know, delete that message, block that number, I'm good to go. And if they call again, I just know to ignore it, and I'm not going to worry about it. But that's what happened, and I want you all to know that. So that's your PSA for today. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith, I talked about him at 3 o'clock. 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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. One more thing before we get going here, Richard, that my IT expert said is he might want to also announce that the other thing that they're doing right now on the scamming end of things is they act like they're QuickBooks calling everybody saying that they need an update on their computer, and then they respond, and now all of a sudden you're back into that same loop that I was talking about a moment ago with Chase Banks. Again, if you ever need anything, reach out to the company that you think you're having a problem with. Don't let them reach out to you. And, Richard, this is a big deal.
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Yeah, and I was going to say is sometimes, well, and especially, you know, it's a scammer if they make you feel bad because if you're – Well, and again, you always get these things, right, of, you know, calls from, you know, you'll never get a call from us, whatever it is. And sometimes I don't know, I think people forget that, Dad, but it really is true. It's very rarely, again, I don't even think ever, where you actually get a call that you didn't initiate originally from a bank, credit card company, whatever. I mean, again, even the IRS, Dad, you know, as, you know, scamish or whatever it is, they still send mail for a reason, right? It becomes official, does things that way because they don't want you to think that. And I know there's a variety of different people that listen to this show and this segment and everything, and I would just say... And you can't be too cautious, right? You know, again, even you, who's pretty well versed in technology, whatever it is, it made it seem super, super real. And I hate to say it, it's not getting any better. And as much as you and I have been, you know, you were fans of AI and fans of technology and advancements and all the things going on. it's going to get worse, folks. And what we mean by that is even them calling... We're turning into Mission Impossible, right? And so for those of you who don't know, right, you go to Mission Impossible and they make them read the statements, right? And then AI basically duplicates what you're actually saying. And I know some of us think that that's weird and sci-fi and doesn't exist. No, we're there. Well, the answer is that we are there. And so does that mean you're scared and you don't ever talk to anyone on the phone? No, just be careful. It just... Exactly. Just be careful. And so what that means is if you don't know, you know, you can even tell the people, you know, I'm not sure if this is really you. I'm going to call. I'm going to call directly. Yeah. And they might say, like, by the way, in my deal, call us back.
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By the way, the first guy that I called him, like, you're just a scammer, aren't you? He's like, if you don't believe me, call the back of your card. I'm like, I'm going to. Well, I ended up doing that, figuring out this guy was a scammer. And they don't like it when you challenge them, by the way. Scammers don't like that.
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No, they don't. And I know you and I have talked about this. You know, we've gone through a few things with family members, you know, of all varying ages. That's right. That's right. Young and old. And it's something, again, folks, you know, where they're going to remote desktop it or you get an email from a friend that you think is legitimate because it looks like it. And trust me, I've seen them. And you and I have both seen them. And they do really look real. They do. They look exactly like it's come from Apple or it's come from Windows or whatever. any number of places but at the end of the day and if you have a question most cases guys no one's shutting your account down today right you know if these scammers you know you'll be locked out of your account today send a screenshot to you dad right you know and you can usually look at it a lot of the times and kind of figure out if it is this game one thing i like to do dad is i like to put the number in google and i kind of see what that's what i do too yeah good one yeah And again, I know it seems silly, folks, to a lot of you, and you're probably like, what do you mean? Well, you can kind of put a number up, and a lot of times, again, it's one of the benefit of technology today.
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Known scammer or high probability of scamming, things like that.
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Yeah, I literally put into Google, is this number legit? Like, you know, very shorthand, and it will come back with information. And so, yeah, I would absolutely encourage people to do that. And I know it seems silly, and some of you are going to look and say, even some of your more experienced listeners, Dad, they're going to say, well, not to me. Well, you almost dot-dot. You know, not saying you did, but you were close.
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No, I mean, it had me questioning. I'm like, OK, wait a minute, because I had a dispute. Granted, it was a few months ago and the dispute that they gave me was on the card that I actually was disputing. So I was like, OK, well, maybe they need more questions answered about the actual dispute, even though it's been cleaned up. I didn't get charged for it. Chase took all of that off. And in my mind, I'm thinking, well, there shouldn't be any real questions. But man alive when the message they leave makes it sound so convincing. And again, I was smart enough to knock. I never give anybody any info, any info out over the phone until I'm 100 percent sure I knew who I'm talking to. And in this case, I didn't because it just seemed odd. And as it turned out, it was.
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Well, and the other big one right now is if you're a, you know, I'll be honest, elderly, and you've got grandkids or whatever it might be, and they call in and say, you know, this is this grandkid in jail or you're in this other country. Again, most of the time you're going to know, and the answer to that is if it feels wrong, it probably is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and that's where we've talked about this, but I want to mention this really quick before we go on to talking about sports. Have a safe word. So even if you think that's, you know, maybe a legit word, Okay, you know, grandson, you know, we've got a family safe word. What is it? If they can't produce it, you know it's a scam.
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It's a great point. And again, it seems very movie-ish, right, to kind of be able to do that. But at the end of the day, it will likely save you money, time, pain, headache, all of the things. It really will. Again, and I know a lot of people, Dad, probably look at us and say, that's silly. And here's the deal. That safe word, that code phrase, we've got one as a family. It's something for as simple as if we send someone else to pick up the kids that maybe wasn't supposed to pick up the kids.
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That's a good idea. Yep.
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Right. And so and again, you're not supposed to share it. You know, maybe you change it so often. And these are some things I know you talked about already radio to dad. Right. And these are some things, too, where, again, it can be something as simple as, you know, obviously there are there's there's just bad people out there. Right. And so, you know, you pick up that word, the pineapple, you know, whatever it might be. and just make sure that the other person knows it or uses it in the right way. That's exactly right. And if they don't, then you don't continue. You hang up and, you know, you kind of have to deal with it at that point in time.
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That's right. That's exactly right. So, again, biggest thing, just be safe. Okay, finally have a weekend where we have both CU and Broncos win.
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Yeah, it was a good week. My wife will get mad at me for saying this, but painful there. Your CSU won as well. I think UNC won. Lots of Colorado teams winning this weekend. The Buffs weren't supposed to win. They did, although you could argue they probably should have over the past few weeks. They finally kind of figured it out and put it all together. The other thing I'm going to say, Dad, is The Broncos were fortunate that they played a lowly team such as the Jets because, man, they struggled, for lack of a better word. They did not do very well at all, and it's definitely something that if I'm the Broncos, I've got to do some soul-searching because they struggled. And for those that watched the game in London yesterday, it was hard, and it was a tough go for them. They needed to figure something out. And honestly, fortunately, dad, the defense was able to do that because I don't know if you have another team or another defense or you're playing another team. You honestly probably lose that game by, oh man, I don't know, maybe two touchdowns the way that you played. And so you and I talk about this every single week, right? Every – you can win or you can win any time in the NFL or you can lose any game in the NFL. It doesn't matter who you are, what it is. I actually heard someone say it the best today. The Broncos seem like that team, Dad, where they play to their level of competition. And so they are the team where they can literally beat – any team in the NFL on any given week, or they could lose to any team in the NFL on any given week. And I think that's a very fair description and a very accurate description of where they're at. And their defense is next-level otherworldly. One thing I would caution the Broncos, and I know Sean Payton and I know Bo Nix are going to figure this out, what I would caution them on, Dad, is if you rely too much on your defense for too long, defense is a very... effort-driven positions, right? A lot of times defense is just you're going to go all out, whatever it is. Well, and you see time after time defenses get worn down as the game goes on, even the best of them. And if you're not careful, you'll sacrifice a win or you'll have a game that you should have won, lost, just because your defense, to no fault of their own, just can't do it anymore.
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and and i think that that's something that the broncos have got to be mindful of moving forward otherwise they're really going to be in a in a world of hurt uh and by the way somebody commented over the weekend that you know it seems like the broncos played down to the jets you know here's the reality you know what that typically happens in a lot of things and that's why you know excellence breeds excellence and if not it doesn't and that's why we want to surround ourselves with excellence because that's typically kind of the way things are richard you've tend to kind of play to the level of the folks that you're around, right, wrong, or otherwise. It's just the way it works.
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It is, and you're 100% correct, Dad, in the sense that it needs to, well, like you say, surround your people with how you want to do it. And I think the Broncos are on their way, Dad, right? I think that's a sign of a younger team at some key positions, and I think that you're seeing some of that because there's some youthful exuberance. But even Bo Nix is mature as I think he is and kind of trying to figure some things out. It takes some of these lessons where you're not in the groove of things, you're not in the game. And maybe it's something as simple as that. I don't think that's the case here. Maybe it just wasn't their best game. Well, what I would say to that is, okay, great, but you only have so many of those in the season because there's only so many games. And the longer you mess around, then you're going to find out. There's kind of that old phrase, you know, mess around and find out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. And, again, everything you're saying, can't disagree with anything, and I think it's true whether we're talking about – sports whether we're talking about business you talk about competition that's where you know competition breeds excellence the better the competition you know the better you get at the end of the day on that particular product that you're trying to sell when competition diminishes so do the products that are put out because everybody right you know everybody lowers themselves rather than don't rise to the occasion they lower themselves to that level and that's why you need competition to make things more excellent
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Yep, absolutely. We talk about it even on the car side of things, right? The free market, everything in your sports is probably one of the best indicators of it, right? When you have competition, whether it be from other teams or on your own team, right? When you've got competition at a certain spot, right? It makes you better. And maybe the Broncos will have that because they had a backup guard in because one of their guards got hurt. He's going to be out for about six to eight weeks here. And so maybe they'll do that, right? Maybe they'll end up bringing in some more competition for them. They'll change some things around because you've got to do that. Honestly, Dad, it is so wide open this year that the Broncos would be silly to not take advantage of it the best way that they could.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Also that time when we play drive radio as well because we do car reviews on a weekly basis. Richard, what have you driven lately?
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Yeah, Dad, so I drove a pretty fun car, or I should say a truck. I'm going to misstate it. A 2025 Toyota Tacoma. This was the TRD Pro model. And I've got the window sticker that I'm going to pull up here real quick. And, Dad, this is a fantastic little truck, right? They redesigned this truck. I believe it was this year, if I'm not mistaken. And they've made a lot of improvements, right? They changed the styling. They updated the interior. It looks like a lot of the other, you know, Toyota trucks and SUVs and all those different things out there. And what I would say is this, that this vehicle is right in line with a lot of these other midsize trucks, right? This is in line with a lot of the other manufacturers that, however, this model specifically, which again is the TRD Pro model, is made to basically be bought specifically. And then driven off-road, the minute that you buy it on the lot, you don't have to add a whole lot to it. You don't have to change a whole lot to it, right? It comes with everything. For example, it's got trimmed and heated, ventilated performance front seats. The front seats that actually have, like, shock. Oh, those are cool.
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I actually wanted to see those. I had a crazy week where I would have seen those personally, but I wanted to see those.
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Yeah. And they include a little hand pump, and you can basically change it to on-road, off-road. You can set the settings. It's got two different shock dampeners on each side, so it's the front and back motion and the side-to-side motion. And again, all that's included. It's got a TRD Pro heated steering wheel. It's got the 10-speaker sound system. It's also got the JBL system or the little mini speaker that you can kind of pop out as a Bluetooth option that you can take and do what you need to. Underneath the hood, Dad, this is probably the best thing, especially for our altitude. It's got the i-FORCE MAX 2.4-liter four-cylinder turbocharged hybrid powertrain, along with the eight-speed automatic transmission. It's got the four-wheel drive demand, part-time 4x4 system, TRD-tuned FOX system, internal bypass shocks, electronically controlled locking differential, and I can sit here and go on and on. Folks, I think you can see this thing is made to be bought and then driven off-road. And, Dad, you and I were talking kind of last week, I should say, when we had this vehicle, that this is sort of becoming a very popular segment of the market, which is these off-road-tuned or off-road-capable midsize trucks, and we'll get to the price here in a second, that people basically can buy and they don't have to do a whole lot, too.
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Exactly. No. And for those of you listening in our area, one of the hottest trucks probably still sold in our area. Resale value because of that, I should say. Resale value very high. One of the few vehicles, Richard, that you can buy that you really don't lose a lot of money on when it's all said and done.
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No, Dad, you can buy these vehicles, you know, again, obviously there was the older V6, you know, editions of these that, you know, they had 200,000 miles on them, Dad, and they were still about 60% of the value of when you bought them, right? These things just really stand up to the test of time. This vehicle, as it sits, Dad, because people are going to want to know. 67,410. And so, yes, folks, a Toyota Tacoma is 67,000. However, if you compare that to the competition, Dad, with how they are outfitted and everything else, and this is not... a standard Tacoma, right? I just want to make sure that people know that. This vehicle is not just your run of the mill, even limited, whatever it might be. This is an off-road variant that they are kind of a special edition. Like you said, they have those special editions at times, and not special in the sense of they're making a limited run, but just special with a lot of the features that are on there. They tend to do better in the resale market. And on this vehicle, which, like we talked about, we've driven other models, I can say, Dad, that this thing runs well. It looks fantastic. It was a really pretty kind of sand brown color to it. They've got some different fenders on it, which are nice. It's got some steel bumper. steel bumpers that make it great, some different colors. It's just this vehicle stands out in the right ways, and I would encourage folks that if you're interested to go check it out because, again, yes, is that price point high? Yes, but if you were to go buy a standard Tacoma, Dad, and then outfit it the way that you maybe would want to, you're probably in the same ballpark, and obviously you did that for years. You know, when it comes to outfitting these vehicles, it can get expensive.
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Oh, yeah. No, your aftermarket bill gets extremely high. And, by the way, much higher than it even used to be. A lot of that now is included from the factory. And, again, you can still personalize after that if you want to do certain things that give you that ability as well. But, no, to your point, Richard. taking a stock truck, turning it into something that in this case is already done for you. The already done for you is still the cheapest way. And on top of that, you get all the warranty that comes from the factory along with it.
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I was just going to say, you get the factory warranty. You're not going to get any questions about it, what went on, anything like that. And again, Dad, the nice thing that they've done is there's really not a whole lot of options on this vehicle. They've given you a towing technology package, which includes wireless camera system. You've got courtesy delivery, rear differential skid plate, some things like that. Real quick, Dad, fuel economy, 22 and 24 for 23. About the only real negative I can have on this vehicle, and it's more of just you've just kind of got to get used to it, it's got a pretty small fuel tank so i was actually less than 300 miles of range in terms of you know when i was actually able to drive it so i had to kind of fill up midweek just because the average driving around colorado that folks know you're going further than maybe you are in other markets but is that something that will prevent me from buying this vehicle no and again if you're looking to buy something that can go off-road can do a little bit of minor towing some things of that nature i would highly recommend this vehicle and honestly that i would say to Anyone who's interested, maybe you've seen this vehicle, you've admired it from afar, head to your local Toyota dealer, test drive them, see what they've got on the lot, and I would encourage you to really get your friends and your family in it because I think that you'll be really pleased with what Toyota's done. Again, 2025 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro. Let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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All right, with all that said, too, I know some of you are going to comment and say, well, hasn't Toyota had some quality issues as of late and so on and so forth? Yeah, as has everyone else. So, you know, unfortunately, no one is immune. I say this all the time, even on Drive Radio on Saturdays, because of the way the parts are supplied to the OEM manufacturers, the reality is... Yes, they can all have issues at different times. I get the report from the National Traffic Highway Safety Administration every Monday. And, Richard, the reality is not a single company, no matter whether they're an RV maker, they're a motorcycle, it's BMW, it's Ferrari, everybody has recalls and problems because parts are not perfect and the men making them are infallible as well. Or fallible, I should say. In other words, they're human. Right.
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Correct. Parts, people, everything, Dad, and especially when they're making as many of these things as they are, you know, from whatever manufacturer, there's going to be issues. And, yeah, do they try to minimize them? Absolutely. I would just encourage folks, honestly, a lot of these recalls, too, Dad, are, I'll just say, protecting stupid people in a lot of cases. In some cases, they are. Yes. And encourage you to do a little bit of research before you just kind of dive into the news and say, oh, my word, they have a bunch of recalls. Well, just do a little bit of research and put your mind at ease.
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In this engaging episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush delves into the significance of Columbus Day and the courage it represents. While discussing how modern financial planning can be personalized, John emphasizes the importance of tailoring investments to individual needs, rather than following a one-size-fits-all approach. He shares insights from Al Smith, who encourages a bespoke strategy for every client. Listeners are prompted to contemplate the bravery of past explorers and relate it to modern challenges, urging them to be courageous in their financial and personal decisions.
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And it's Monday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Columbus Day Monday. And that's what I prefer to call it, so others I know want to call it something else, but it's Columbus Day. was when I was a kid, still is. Talk a little bit about that maybe a little bit later in the program. And a lot of folks probably off today, school out. Of course, there's federal stuff shut down because of the shutdown, but Also because of the holidays. So traffic should be much lighter today for some of you that are working and then have to go home tonight. You'll have a lot easier ride home. So congratulations. I wish in some cases we had more of these types of holidays because it makes the traffic a lot better. But wishful thinking on my part. Al Smith was going to join us today, but Al might have gotten tied up. So I'll tell you what, I'll just talk about Al for a moment. You hear me talk about Al quite a bit. He's got his own program on Wednesdays from 2 to 2.30 p.m. where he talks about the whole financial aspect of things, planning for retirement and just what do you do? How do you get there? It's a different scenario for each person. I know I don't say that enough. There's not a one size fits all. And I probably, again, that's something that even Alan and I should probably mention a little bit more is, you know, what you might hear of another family member or the cubicle next door or the neighbor or whatever, you know, whatever they're doing, you know, it might work really well for them. But that doesn't necessarily mean it works well for you. And I think Al would agree with me on this because I know Al isn't this way. Remember that anybody that's out there trying to get you to do something with your money, typically there's something in it for them. And that's just the way it works. Anybody that's handling your money, transactions, things like that, that's how those folks make money. So in a lot of cases, let me give you an example. You may be somebody who holds on to some real estate, does some things along those lines. Well, you may actually run into a particular financial planner that says, you know, you ought to turn that real estate into cash, and then let's invest this in XYZ. By the way, you won't hear Al say that unless it's really unique to you and that would be the right move for you. But typically I was going to say, OK, well, if you've got something here, then let's maybe dovetail into something else. Let's get things balanced out for you and then off you go. But Al's not going to force you or really even, you know, force isn't the right word probably, but isn't going to encourage you to do things along those lines unless it's the right thing for you. I will tell you that's not the way with every financial planner. I've run into some, by the way, because I am somebody that, yes, I do some things with Al, but I also do a lot of things on the real estate end of things, partially because it's what I understand. And it's just me. And I'm not the ideal candidate for most financial planners because I've done things on my own in that way. And I haven't done a lot of things with the markets and 401ks because I've been self-employed, so I don't have one of those. And you guys that are self-employed know what I'm talking about. But I've done some real estate things. And my point is, anytime somebody is encouraging you to do something that you're not doing right now, you have to ask the question, why? Why are they encouraging this? And this, again, is where you really need to sit down and have a conversation with somebody like an Al who's really, you know, he is sort of bipartisan, I guess you could say. He's going to look at all sides of it and tell you what the best thing for you to do for you is, not what's best for your coworker, your neighbor, your cousin, your brother, your sister, your whatever. Because every situation is different and unique, and it's not a one-size-fits-all situation. A lot of financial planners, I will tell you straight up, want a one-size-fits-all. They're trying to promote this thing, this product, this annuity, this whatever it is. And I will also tell you being self-employed, and Alan and I have talked about this many times, being self-employed throws all sorts of other monkey wrenches into things that you don't have when you work for someone else. So what I'm getting at here is call Al. If you've got a great financial plan and it's been a while since you've talked to the person that put that together, talk to Al. Because, by the way, you should be talking to somebody probably quarterly, and as you get closer and closer to retirement, probably more often than that. And if you're not talking at least once every six months, there's something wrong. So if you've had somebody help put a plan together that you've not heard from in years, you have a problem. Go talk to Al. On the same token, if you've got an advisor whereby they're trying to convince you to do some things where you're just not super comfortable in doing so and you're thinking, you know, it's not really the way I had things dialed in. That's not what my plan was. Well, again, ask a lot of questions and talk to somebody like Al. Get an independent review, if you would, of where you're at and what you're doing and find out what's best for you. And Al's not going to be pushy. I know because I know Al. So do you guys from listening to the program. Because he's been with me now for several years. So Al will look at things independently and tell you, yep, you're on the right track. Just keep doing what you're doing. Or, hey, here's a few suggestions. Maybe you should change this around or that around. Or have you thought about doing X? And those are the things to look at that you may not be thinking about. But my main point here is it is not a one-size-fits-all when it comes to financial planning. Everybody is different. Everybody is unique. And the one thing that, again, I've learned over and over again is anytime somebody's suggesting something to you, what's the why? Yeah. In other words, what's in it for them versus what's in it for you. And you need to be asking that question before you make any big decisions. And that's where Al comes in. You can talk to him and find out exactly what is in your best interest. And again, Al Smith, you can find him at klzradio.com. But it's Golden Eagle Financial. And again, he's got his own program from 2 to 2.30. I would highly recommend you listen in. He's on with me. on a periodic basis. Again, we're supposed to be here today, but things happen. Al may very well have gotten into a client call that went long or had an appointment that went long. I give grace to every one of the partners we have here, and I look at them as partners. I give them grace because things happen, and they're taking care of you. I'm last. And that's fine. I want it to be that way. I want them caring for you first and everything else can come in second. And frankly, I know enough about most of my sponsors and partners to be able to tell you exactly what they do, how they do it, and speak for them, which is what I just did for Al. So again, if you've got any questions at all, give Al a call. He'd love to sit down and chat, have a meeting, and it's real simple. It doesn't cost you anything to do that. Just find out where you're at. And again, just go to klzradio.com to find him. All right, Friday's question of the day. What is Ronald McDonald called in Japan? The answer is Donald McDonald. And don't ask me why. The Japanese language does not distinguish clearly between the English R and the L sounds, so Ronald is difficult to pronounce. To make the name easier for Japanese speakers, McDonald's chose the simpler version, Donald McDonald. So there you go, Charlie. Now you know what to say if you ever go to Japan. It's not Ronald McDonald, it's Donald McDonald. Okay, today's a possible question. What do the three dots on the Domino's pizza logo represent? What do the three dots on the Domino's pizza logo represent? I did not know this answer. And I know quite a bit about a lot of the food companies and so on because I study a lot of these guys and how they got founded and sold and all of that. And this answer, I did not know. So, again, answer this on our social media. Facebook page, Rush to Reason.com. All right. I got several things to talk about. Yes, it is Columbus Day. I'll get into that here in just one moment. I've got an opinion piece, actually, that I would like to read to you all that I think sums up Columbus Day fairly well. And I won't focus all three hours on Columbus Day, but, you know, might intertwine it here and there. But I'll read this to you as soon as possible. We get back. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Dave Hart, who I talked to Dave today, by the way. And right now, get ready for winter. And what I mean by that is extend the life of your roof and be ready for winter, even if it's on the edge. If you've had any damage that needs taking care of that you haven't done, please get that taken care of as well. If you need a complete re-roof, get in line. Dave's got a lot of them he's doing right now, but he can still get you taken care of before winter hits. And then lastly, if you've got a commercial building, you need your annual inspections done, have him out to do that as well. 303-710-6916.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560 on this Columbus Day here in the Denver, Colorado. We cover every state locally here, all the way down to the panhandle of Texas and Oklahoma, Kansas, parts of New Mexico, Wyoming, Nebraska. And I don't think I missed anything. And all of you that are listening online. So let's not forget all the other states that are out there as well, which I appreciate greatly. So thank you all for listening. This is an article out of FoxNews.com that I ran across. And no, I don't know. Like I've told you guys, I don't normally go to Fox News, but I was looking for some pieces today on Columbus and I wanted the the good side of Columbus. There's a lot of bad stuff about Columbus. In fact, the left would tell you that we just need to wipe him off the history book and wiping away from the history books. Forget it ever happened. He did tons of damage. You know, he encouraged, you know, the growth of the Western world into this particular area and and and I'm not going to go down that path because it's just it's utter nonsense. These are people that hate progress, by the way. Well, unless it's their progress. Let me say it that way. They hate progress unless it's their progress. These are Marxists, and they want the Marxist progress, but nothing else. Let's be clear on that. So it's not that they hate all progress, they just hate the progress that's not theirs. And then they seize opportunities, i.e., the woke culture and all those different things that they can then latch onto and get people to, you know, rally around, and that's what they do. But this is a great opinion piece. This is by Pastor Rick McDaniel. I don't know Rick. I don't think I've ever interviewed anybody by that name, so I don't know Rick at all. Let Columbus Day inspire you to discover the courage to seize opportunities and fulfill your potential. The Explorer's 533-year-old journey offers lessons about courage and taking risks in modern life. Earlier this year, I visited Hulva, Spain, which is very close to the border with Portugal. It's where Christopher Columbus launched the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria. On his journey to America, there was a waterfront expedition with life-size replicas of the three ships built in 1992 for Columbus's 500th anniversary, and there's a museum next to the boats commemorating Columbus's life. I walked in the ships, and they were quite small. The Santa Maria was the largest ship at about 70 feet long. It's remarkable to see the size of the ships and realize what it would be like to launch in one from the southern coast of Spain and head out across the Atlantic Ocean. Let's stop there for just one moment. And anybody that's been out on the ocean, whether it be fishing, whether you've been on a cruise, which those of you that have been on a cruise, some people even get seasick on a cruise, shrink down that mammoth cruise ship. I mean, even small cruise ships are huge and would dwarf the Santa Maria, make it look like a rowboat. I'm not exaggerating when I say that. Literally, that's the size difference. 70 feet. There are modern yachts running around that are twice the size of that easily. 150-foot yachts easily. So 70 feet, not very long. And to really cover the entire vastness of the ocean, and I'll continue here, imagine what it would be like 533 years ago to get on a ship with hopefully enough food and water to get you all the way across the Atlantic. It's hard to believe anyone would be willing to put themselves through the uncertainty and deprivation of sailing in a tiny boat on the vast ocean. And then there's the actual navigation of such a journey. Columbus had no sextant. In other words, he didn't have some of the most basic navigational tools seafarers have used for hundreds of years. He literally relied on the sun and the moon to pilot his ship. Columbus' goal was to get to Asia, but his original calculations were incorrect. So instead, after five weeks at sea on October 12, 1492... He landed on what is now the Bahamas. In an absolutely amazing story of exploration and adventure, he never would have accomplished such a feat if he hadn't had that courage to try. Today, we celebrate that courage. Columbus is remembered for his epic journey that was a key turning point in world history, connecting Europe with the Americas. He was from Genoa, Italy, so Italian-Americans are particularly proud to celebrate his legacy. The District of Columbia, the seat of our government, is named after him. Columbia University and Ivy League College, as well as many cities and towns in America, are named in his honor, which, by the way, I think a lot of the left forgets and or despises, or maybe both. In more recent times, there's been controversy surrounding Columbus. Some believe celebrating him glorifies the legacy of colonization, including the mistreatment, displacement, and deaths of indigenous people. This debate has led to the rise of Indigenous Peoples Day, which aims to honor native culture, histories, and contributions. And by the way, I don't blame them for wanting to celebrate their own history, culture, and so on. But in a lot of ways, though, these are people that claim the victim mentality rather than celebrating where they're even at today. And I mean that in all sincerity. You really have to look at where are we at today because of Western civilization, and would you like to go back in time and not have this? Because remember, folks, it was the, well, capitalism first and foremost, but out of that came the Industrial Revolution, and a lot of the modern things that we enjoy today has come from capitalism. And the fact that Western civilization moved this direction, of course, we, the United States of America, left England. We all know the story, Revolutionary War and so on. And reality is we fought for our own freedom, and here we are today. And yet, at the end of the day, according to the left, we're still the bad guys, and we should be running around apologizing for it. No, we shouldn't. No. And I owe nobody an apology, any way, shape, or form. Progress is going to happen, period. And before we – and I won't get off on a tangent here, but before we get into this whole idea that it was America that wiped off all the indigenous people, you can actually kind of go back to Great Britain and blame a lot of that on them. They were the ones that really incited them to go against us, armed them in the very beginning because they didn't want to see us – they didn't want to see us and our population grow to the west and hit the west coast. So they did everything possible, Britain did, by going up into Canada in that area and arming the Native Americans at that time so they would fight against us. True story. You don't hear that in the history books, though. You're not going to hear that in most public schools. Why? Because that paints a different picture than what you're hearing today on Indigenous Peoples Day versus Columbus Day. So our focus, though, continuing on with this article, this opinion piece, but our focus is on his courage, the courage to discover, to explore, not to settle in life, the courage to take risks and do what is demanding, the courage that is necessary to succeed. What can stand in the way of discouragement? To be discouraged means literally a loss of courage. Have you lost your courage? Do you need to get your courage back? Do you have anxiety, fear, worry? You overcome it by practicing courage. Joshua 1.9 tells us, I've commanded you to be strong and courageous. Don't be afraid or discouraged. I am the Lord your God. I will be there to help you wherever you go. You can be courageous because God is with you. You can run away, you can hide, or you can run away, or you can run after it. You can run to your destiny, chase after the God-ordained opportunities in your life where you can shrink back, but less demanding means less fulfilling. That old saying, the greater the risk, the greater the reward? Those are my words, not in this article. Have the courage to pursue it. Have the courage not to be stagnant, not to settle for where you are, not to give up on your future. Maybe it's a big dream you need to pursue. Maybe it's an addiction, a life-controlling habit that you need to break. Maybe it's your mindset, the negative self-talk and nagging self-doubt that you must change. Maybe it's doing the right thing, even though it will be hard. Have the courage and just do it. Stop giving the lies permission to stay. Stop rehearsing the criticism. Stop accepting defeat before you've even tried. Make room for courage, for the courageous voice in you to say, I can do it. You might stumble or fall along the way, but doing nothing guarantees you never move forward. Courage isn't the absence of fear. It's choosing to act in spite of it. The real risk isn't in failing. It's in never trying. So I felt like that was a really good opinion piece to read on Columbus Day because a lot of folks out there, again, are going to tell you, the left will tell you that Columbus shouldn't be celebrated. A lot of the Columbus Day parades that used to happen today are no longer because of what I just said. And the woke crowd has come along and wiped out, really, like I said, they want to wipe him off the history books, out of the history books. But the reality is he is there. And it was because of Columbus that we are here today. Now, would somebody else have come along after him? Probably. But the reality is he did. He had the courage to set out and do the things that he did. And no, I'm not going to get into all the details as to why and what the rewards were and so on and so forth. It doesn't matter. He still had the courage to do it. You know, there's a lot of things out there where only select people do it. And yes, the reward at the end of the day is big, but only a few people go after that. That's true whether we talk about, you know, professional athletes or Hollywood superstars or I can go down the list. And again, every one of those, whether you agree with them or not, at the end of the day, they had the courage to do something others weren't doing. Great entrepreneurs, the Elon Musks of the world. What did he do differently than everybody else? He did get down at times, but he didn't let that defeat him, and he kept moving forward, and look at where he's at today. Again, like him or not, you can't take away from what he's achieved. Same thing with the Bill Gates of the world or the Jeff Bezos of the world or the Walmarts of the world. I can go down the list. Every one of them decided to do something different than everybody else around them. Like it or not, they did things nobody else would do. And unfortunately, some of those are on the left and yet are criticized by the left. Makes you wonder why they're still there, but that's another topic probably for another day. So anyways, that's the opinion piece out of Fox News. I'll have that in our show notes that you could potentially look at at a later time if you'd like to. Maybe read that for yourself, but you can find it there online as well. But again, just in my opinion, a great reminder of what today means. The courage that Columbus had, 70-foot boat, really. Yeah, I know it was a ship, but 70-foot boat that traversed the Atlantic Ocean. No, he didn't get where he was supposed to go. He was setting out for a different place, for Asia. Ended up here instead. And then you've got to kind of ask the question of, you know, why? And whose hand was in that? In other words, did God have a hand in that in getting him here? Again, I don't know the answer to that, folks. I don't know. Dr. Scott's coming up next. And again, great doctor. My doctor would love to help you with all of your health care. It's not medical needs. I should even quit saying medical needs. It really is how to live healthier, happier, do things different, do things out of the box. Stop listening to the general practitioners that are out there that, frankly, are probably not steering you in the right direction when it comes to your overall health. 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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Christina Bob with us, author of Defiant Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the Less Ongoing Lawfare. Christina, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 11 :
Great. Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Always a joy. Talk to us about James Comey, and I'll be straight up honest. I've had so much going on the past week with other things in my life. I've not spent a lot of time following this one, so you can even bring me up to speed.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sure. Well, I mean, it's a criminal case, and so stuff isn't happening every single day. So you're okay if you've missed a few days.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good.
SPEAKER 11 :
But he was arraigned the other day through summons, obviously was not arrested, which was a little bit of a disappointment, I think, to a lot of people. Motions, I think, are due in November, heard in December, trial in January. So it's a really fast timeline from the court. I kind of expect that to change, you know. There's a lot of stuff that comes up in motion. Things get delayed. So I do expect that to get pushed a little bit. There could possibly be a superseding indictment, which adds more charges. So that could cause a delay as well. So, you know, we don't really know how it's going to play out. But so far, I mean, he got indicted by a grand jury in northern Virginia.
SPEAKER 08 :
And this is on basically false statements and obstruction. Is that what he's actually being indicted for?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think it's... Yeah, obstructing a congressional proceeding and lying to Congress, basically.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which, those are not small things, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
They're not small things, but they're also not... Enormous either. I mean, I think the max for both of those is five years like each, which he wouldn't do as a first time offender. So maybe he's looking at a couple of years in prison. So this is not like it's not like what they did to Trump where they're like, oh, we're going to stack on thirty nine counts. He's going to face one hundred and fifty years in prison. You know, that kind of craziness. They didn't do that. They just kept it really tight and clean and basically just charged him with what they could prove.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I think, and by the way, you're saying a lot that I think a lot of our listeners can relate to, and people expect a lot more than what's being delivered. But what I keep trying to remind everybody, and I'm not an attorney, but I do know enough about the legal system to know that, first of all, we tend to forget this sometimes because this is the way things are, but it's innocent before proven guilty, correct?
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Meaning that if you're the DA, the prosecutor, whatever the case, you've got you know, you want an open and shut slam case, meaning that you want to have enough proof there to make sure that what you're you know, the charges that you're bringing somehow stick at the end of the day. Nothing worse than going through all of that and having that person walk away.
SPEAKER 11 :
A hundred percent. And that's actually a really important point to make because any reputable prosecutor should have at a minimum a 90 percent conviction rate because the prosecutors are the ones who get to pick the cases. And so if you are constantly prosecuting innocent people and losing, you're a very bad prosecutor. You're trying to prosecute innocent people.
SPEAKER 08 :
Knock it off. Right. Right. Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's the presumption. Absolutely. And so and when you look at the track record for the prosecutions against prosecutors, you know the transfer myself included i'm still a criminal defendant as we speak my case is falling apart along with all my co-defendants but they're still trying to prosecute us and with the alternate electors in arizona you still have nevada wisconsin michigan was just thrown out georgia is about to fall apart but if you look at the track record for those prosecutions they haven't gotten a single conviction correct i mean they prosecuted about 60 of us and they have not got a single conviction for the charges that they brought They had a couple of people who were scared and pled guilty to misdemeanors in exchange for unsupervised probation, which is nothing. Right, right, right, right. But but to your point, I mean, they're coming after us for things that are not a crime and they're all losing. And so I think Lindsay Halligan, the the interim U.S. attorney for Virginia that's prosecuting this case, I think she kept it really clean to make sure that she could prove her case.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and again, I try to remind everybody of this because, A, we don't want to be that side. At least I don't want to, Christine, I don't want to be that. I don't want to bring a bunch of charges against a bunch of people that, you know, because of what's been spread around the media and so on, which I always caution everybody that, okay, just because you read something on a website or you heard something in the media or something popped up on your Facebook page doesn't necessarily mean that person did all of the things that are being presented there. That's not court. That's the court of social media, which, as you know, Christina, can go all sorts of places. And in a lot of cases, I hate to say this, very untrue. And if we judged everybody by what social media did, we'd have a really screwed up system.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's disgusting. I think one of the worst things, short of murdering people, I think the worst thing a government can do is falsely prosecute people for some other purpose. Mm-hmm. which is what I'm experiencing with Rudy Giuliani and Mark Meadows and John Eastman and, you know, those of us that supported Donald Trump. I mean, it alters your life forever. I now have a criminal record. You know, people call me a felon. And of course, none of it's true and none of it's proven. But I think it is the most abhorrent thing a government can do to its people. And so, no, we cannot be doing that like in retaliation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so then why? Because I get some of these people that call in. I get text messages. I get emails, Christina, and I know the sentiment of most people that are out there that are on our side, and they want blood. And by the way, I understand that. All the stuff that's happened, even to people like yourself, I get where that sentiment can come from. Believe me, I'm there with them. I understand that. But you can't just go after things to go after things without having proof that these things were done, or then you look at the other side at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 11 :
A hundred percent. And I think that's why we haven't seen as many prosecutions as everybody wants right now, because I think they are trying to make sure that they can actually and effectively prove their case, not just prove their case, but prove their case in a very, very liberal area. Most of these cases are going to have to be brought in Washington, D.C., maybe New York, you know, Virginia, which are more liberal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good point. Great. You know what? By the way, that's something that I kind of had in the back of my mind, but really even in. And I don't need to defend anybody, Christina, but even explaining, OK, this is where we're at and why we're here and so on. And, you know, be really slow to judge a lot of the, quote unquote, officials that are there right now. And there's a lot of frustration, but you're adding another layer that I haven't even explained. You're not only going to have to make sure you've got a really solid case that is, you know, rock solid when it's all said and done. But you've got to do that in a very liberal area on top of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
in a liberal area, and don't forget, all it takes for the defense to win is one juror.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's true.
SPEAKER 11 :
The prosecutors have to get a unanimous jury, so they have to make sure that they have a case that can convince 12 liberal jurors to convict.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what, again, you're adding a whole other layer on top of what I've tried to explain to my listeners. And this is where it's different. It shouldn't be. I know, Christine, it shouldn't be. But this is where it's different for us than their side, because these cases are held in areas where the jury is stacked against us bringing prosecution, but it's stacked in their favor against people like yourself.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, it's just disgusting what they did. I've got all the details in the book. President Trump's A consortium of record during the Mar-a-Lago case, during the Mar-a-Lago raid, I was on site for all of it. If you want the gory details, it's all in the book, Defiant. But we absolutely have to have prosecutions because they've proven to us throughout this whole process that they're not going to stop coming after us until they are stopped. And the only method we have to stop them right now is to actually hold them accountable for their actions through prosecution. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
So going back to James Comey, at the end of the day, what do you think? And again, you're not a mind reader. You don't have the ability to predict the future. But given what you've seen and what you know about the judicial system and so on, what do you think at the end of the day happens to him?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think he goes to trial. I don't think he's going to plead out. I think he's hoping that he can convince one juror to just feel bad for him and acquit him or not convict him. It would be a hung jury at that point. So I think he goes to trial. I think, you know, I think Lindsay's case is pretty clear cut. We all have seen most of the evidence at this point, and it looks very much like he lied. So I think she's got a really good case.
SPEAKER 08 :
And really quick for those to list for those listening. How do they prove that he lied? I think that's a question that I know I have. I mean, you can go back and get, you know, transcripts and testimony and so on. But then how do you prove that what he said is exactly what he said? And, you know, he didn't because what the defense will do. Well, he didn't really mean to say that what he really said was this. And you're misconstruing his words. I mean, I can already hear what they're going to say. And I'm probably not wrong in that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you just argue it. Yeah. I mean, he basically said I did not authorize a leak. And Andrew McCabe said that Jim Comey was the one who authorized the leak. So Andrew McCabe is going to be essentialist. Is he a cooperating witness or are they just going to rely on his testimony? I don't know. You know, that all needs to come out. But you have two conflicting tests. Somebody lied to Congress. And, you know, that's up to the jury to figure out who they think won.
SPEAKER 08 :
But to your point, all it takes is one of those people that really, in a lot of ways, just feel sorry for him. Well, you know, he was pressured and he didn't have a choice and he was doing what he thought was best for the country at the end of the day. And these are liberal jurists. In most cases, they're going to be there. He just felt like he was doing what was best for the country. So, you know, in light of that, you know, I'm going to give him a pass.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And these are things and what my audience to understand everything you and I are talking about right now, because it doesn't apply just to Comey, Christina. It applies to every one of these cases we would bring. Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, I think I'm hoping some of them can be brought in Florida and you can read, like I said, back into defiant in my book, President Trump did the Ford for it. You can read all of the stuff that transpired. I've got text messages, emails in there of what went down in Florida. So I hope there's some prosecutions in Florida, which is a better venue for us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because you have to get out of that D.C. area, that New York, D.C. area, if you want to have anything that probably stands at the end of the day. Unless it's just so ironclad, nobody can look at it and say otherwise.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think that's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But that's hard, and it's hard to do. Again, I've got lots of listeners that are wondering, why isn't more being done with Epstein and the files and this, that, and the other? And even that one's worse because that stuff happened decades ago. It didn't happen three or four years ago. It was decades ago. And I keep telling people on that one, I wouldn't get my hopes up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I definitely don't have my hopes up for that. I will admit that. It's kind of weird. I don't know what the heck is going on with it. I'm sure there are lots of prosecution challenges.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the timeline alone has to, I would think, Christina, just, you know, the timeline of when it happened, who had, you know, the chain of custody on all the documents, which you would be fully aware of. I mean, you look at all of what's happened over the course, again, of now a couple of decades, and I got to believe those are huge challenges to overcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm sure they are, and I'm sure that weighs into their decision to not expose some aspects of it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and then for me, I'm a business guy, Christina. I'm looking at it saying, okay, risk versus reward. What do we get at the end of the day when it's all said and done, and what else can I go do instead of this that actually at the end of the day is more fruitful? That's me. I'm sorry. That's just how I would look at it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and that may be what the president's thinking.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would be, and I'm not him, so that's how I would be looking at it. At the end of the day, how do we get the most bang for the buck when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, I would like to see some more prosecutions, whether it's from Epstein or whether it's from Russiagate or the Ukraine hope. I mean, there's a plethora. There's tons.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was just going to say we got way more than that. But yes, I'm with and I'm with you. I'd like to see something as well. But I am of the type where I'd rather us be be methodical and have some wins back to our original conversation. I want some wins. I don't want guys just walking away when it's all said and done because now we look really stupid. Now we do look like we just did it for revenge.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think there needs to be. And it's not just the prosecutions. I think the prosecutions are important. But I think what's more important is that the Americans get to see behind the curtain of what's actually happening in our government. Because we know that the media is lying to us. We know that the story that's being told is not true. So let's just get the truth out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Agreed. All right. How do folks get the book?
SPEAKER 11 :
You can go to Amazon, Barnes & Noble, wherever books are sold. You can go to my website, ChristinaBob.com. Again, it's Defiant, Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid, and The Left's Ongoing Lawfare.
SPEAKER 08 :
Always a joy having you. I appreciate it. I'd like to have you on more often because I learn something every time you're on. I appreciate it greatly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, some news that came out. I didn't get a chance to talk about this last week. I think I read this on either Thursday or Friday. And the amount of comments, I saw this on social media, and the amount of comments that I saw afterwards, I was just like, oh, my word, people. You're all crazy. Most. Not all, but most. Pentagon chief, of course, Hegseth, announced a Qatari Air Force base or not. I even said it wrong. A Qatari Air Force facility, not a base facility at an Idaho base. And they made a deal basically where they could get some training and do some things in learning how to fly. By the way, the aircraft that we sell them. And again, the amount of. Comments that came basically saying, oh, yeah, this is just a payback for Trump to them and this, that and the other. No, it isn't. No, it isn't. In my opinion, this is just another way that Trump is keeping peace in the Middle East, trying to get everybody to the table. We supply arms and weaponry to not only that country but others as well. We have other – I use the term loosely – allies that are there. And at the end of the day, I think what Trump is doing is making sure that we can have peace as many places as we can – And I think the other thing Trump looks at, and I don't think there's anything wrong with this, is the old saying of keep your enemies – your friends close and your enemies closer. Not saying that Cutter is our enemy, but you get what I'm saying here. Let's have more eyes on them than we probably would have otherwise. And the reality is you can do that in this agreement that they made. And this will be basically a training facility for F-15 fighters. And key word there, F-15. Not our newest, not our latest and greatest. Those of you that are more familiar with this than I probably know the age of those aircraft. Let me look at this up really quick. I should have done that coming into it. I apologize. But if I'm not mistaken, these are decades, 50 years old. So F-15s are over 50 years old. Now, granted, still quite the fighting machine at the end of the day. So the first one came out in 1972. And the original 15s were retired. There's some newer variants of those that are still in active service. Those aircraft, by the way, yes, they have been modernized. And yes, they still make quite, as I said a moment ago, quite the fighting machine. But I think I want to be... you know, very clear in saying, in fact, these are going to be phased out. Their retirement is planned by 2026. So you're selling them and training them on aircraft that were phasing out. So anybody that would be out there left, right, middle, anybody along those lines, basically talking about how this is some sort of a deal that Trump put together with them. And it's a payback for even the jet that we received and this, that and the other. All that's utter hogwash, period, utter hogwash. Does this aid in our relationship with them? Of course it does. But is this giving them any secrets or anything that we have going on here in the U.S. by allowing them to train here? Absolutely not. Joe, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
John, some people are so crazy. They're saying that Qatar paid Trump for permission to build a Qatar Air Force military base on U.S. soil. And all they're doing, it's a U.S. Air Force base. It's called Mountaineer. And they simply are going to build a barracks. And some hangers, a maintenance hanger and a storage hangers. We've been training their pilots on our aircraft. For a long time.
SPEAKER 08 :
For a long time. That's right. Well, yeah, because part of the deal, for all of you listening, and I'm not a military expert, Joe, but I do know this. When you sell somebody something, you provide training with that same device you sold.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. And all they're doing, and again, they're primarily Islamic, you know, Muslim faith. And they got halal, you know, dietary things. So they said, look, we'd like to have our own barracks. and we'd like to have our own hangars. I mean, these are our aircraft. So on your military base, which will continue to be your military base, owned and operated by the U.S. Air Force, we just want to have our own barracks and a couple of hangars where our mechanics can work on these aircraft that we bought from you, and our people will learn how to fly them.
SPEAKER 08 :
And frankly, Joe, personally speaking, that's probably the best way that it should work anyways. I don't really feel like there needs to be an intertwining of our troops and theirs anyways.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so again, they're going to put one building with the barracks and a dining hall and a couple of hangars for the aircraft that they will own. They are their aircraft, and they will fly them off of our runway on our military base. It's not their military base, but the people who are saying Trump gave Qatar permission – to build a military base on U.S. soil is complete nonsense.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I've seen some of those same posts, and why I wanted to talk about it today, Joe, is just it's, again, and I've seen some of the folks even on our side saying this, it's utter nonsense.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is. Again, it's the Mountaineer U.S. Air Force Base. It will continue to be the Mountaineer Air Force Base. And the fact that they've got barracks and a dining hall and a couple of hangars to store the aircraft they purchased from us doesn't change that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, in other words, big deal.
SPEAKER 10 :
Big deal. But, you know, the crazies always want to make something of it. Of course they do. They want to get all their information from social media.
SPEAKER 08 :
And really quick, Charlie just told me that this whole process started back in 2022. It wasn't even Trump.
SPEAKER 10 :
And they can't. So, you know, and they're going to create U.S. jobs. The people are going to build these hangars and barracks and dining halls.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which I'm guessing they're probably making, you know, Cutter pay for would be my guess as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, absolutely. You know, Cutter's going to pay every nickel of the construction costs, you know, for those places. And, you know, we've been training their pilots. Not just their pilots. We've been training Jordan's pilots.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was just going to say, Joe, we train a lot of others as well, not just those.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. And Qatar just said, hey. You know, we've got, you know, our own pilots, and we'd like to make sure we house them and feed them. And again, I don't know if you're familiar with some of the Muslim dietary laws.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Sure.
SPEAKER 10 :
Halal, you know, they've got halal, just like you've got Jews have kosher dining requirements. They have halal, and they've got their own religious and, you know, and daily prayers. And they just thought it would be better if they could segregate their pilots so they could live their lifestyle in accordance with, you know, Islamic tradition. And that's all it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, this again, this is not a payback for the gift that they gave us in a 747 that will help out when it comes to our Air Force One fleet and things like that, Joe. And again, so many things even around that that we've talked about in the past. But Joe, I don't understand where all of these loons come from. And if there's anything about social media that I hate is the fact that not that these things haven't been there before. It's just more public now.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is, but, you know, John, a 30-second Google search, you know, all the AP writers, they've all done stories easy to find exactly what's happening. No, it's not going to be their base. It is going to continue to be a U.S. Air Force base, and they will be a tenant, if you will.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good way of saying it. They'll be a tenant on our base.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're a renter. That's a good way of saying it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they're going to be a renter. They're going to be renting space on our base.
SPEAKER 08 :
And keep in mind, everybody, you know, the other thing, Joe, we're making money off this. We're making money off this. This isn't a freebie. It's not like we're donating this to them. I'm sure they're writing a big fat check, Joe.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not only for the aircraft, but for the training and everything else that goes with it. They pay for the training, and they're going to buy the course training. Those aircraft suck up thousands of gallons of fuel, and they're going to be buying all that fuel.
SPEAKER 08 :
And as you said, there's labor and jobs and offsets and so on, and all sorts of things. There'll be civilian contractors and so on. At the end of the day, Joe, this is a win for us. This is not a loss. And as I said a moment ago, and again, not that these aircraft aren't superior in a lot of ways to a lot of other things that other countries have because they do get updated and so on. But, Joe, these aren't our newest fighters we've sold them. This isn't our latest and greatest technology is my point. This is like selling them an old Windows XP machine.
SPEAKER 10 :
The F-15 is a 25-year-old aircraft. Exactly. 25-year-old. Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and as I said earlier, they're phasing them out next year, 2026. They're actually phasing them out of what we even do as far as our use goes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, we still fly some of them, John, but it is a 25-year-old platform.
SPEAKER 08 :
Actually started out 50 years ago, but with the updates, yeah, it's in that 25-year, which is old. Well, in an aircraft, Joe, you're a pilot and all that. I mean, it's not super old because aircraft last a lot longer than vehicles do, but they change a ton.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, plus you don't put the hours on them like you do a car. Correct, correct. you don't put 2,000, 3,000 hours a year on an air, well, you could, but you typically don't, and you can, by the way, after it comes to time, you literally swap the engines out, you know, you talk about engine, you know, fine, the engines reach there, there's a rated life on the engine, boom, you pop the old ones out, put new ones in, brand new engine, and the airframe is, you know, the airframe has some ridiculous life, like 35,000 flight hours on the airframe, but Most aircraft never get there. So you swap out the engine, you swap out the avionics, you upgrade the hydraulics, or you completely replace the hydraulics. It's like brand new.
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But at the end of the day, it's not an F-35.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's not an F-35. It's not even close. It's not a B-1. It's not a B-2. It's not an F-35. It's not an F-22 Raptor.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. Exactly. Joe, appreciate you as always, man. Thank you. You're welcome. Nope. Thanks for solidifying that. And even those of you that are on our side, don't post negative things about it that you don't know what you're talking about because I've seen that even come out of our side. Paul Lumber coming up next. When it comes to insurance, he's your guy. In fact, I've got something I might share a little bit later. I did a little bit of a... Paul, I should say, helped me with a few things regarding EVs, chargers, things like that. I may share that a little bit later in the program, but if not sometime this week. Call Paul directly if you need any insurance, 303-662-0789.
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All right, we are back. Coming up next hour, top of the hour, Ammon Blair is going to be joining us. We hear from him periodically. He's out of Texas, and we're going to be talking about just some of what has come up in regards to Hegseth and some of the standards he's set with, you know, guys being overweight and so on. And there's a stat that 68%— 68%. It's a high number. Almost 7 out of 10 National Guardsmen are overweight or obese, and the Texas Military Department is trying to fix that. We'll talk to him on that here in just one moment. Don't go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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