What would you do if standing on principle could cost you everything? In this eye-opening episode of https://Ready-Radio.com, John Rush and Bill Anderson tackle one of the most charged topics of our time—personal freedom versus the law. From concealed carry debates to real-world stories of lawsuits and financial ruin, they reveal how easily a “law-abiding citizen” can find themselves on the wrong side of the system. Are you truly prepared—not just for a crisis, but for the consequences of your choices? As the conversation deepens, the hosts challenge listeners to stop fighting battles they can’t win and start focusing on what they can control. Can you really outsmart the system—or should you learn how to live beyond it? Discover how self-sufficiency, strategic action, and informed choices can protect your freedom far better than outrage ever could. This isn’t just a talk about guns or laws—it’s about readiness for real life. When the rules change overnight, will you be the victim, the fighter, or the one who was truly ready?
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This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. And it's Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Thank you all for listening today. We appreciate it greatly. And let me get Bill Anderson up with us. Bill, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm doing well today, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
A little cloudier today, but we'll take it. Winter's coming.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's coming. It definitely is.
SPEAKER 07 :
We'll talk about some of that today.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think it's supposed to be nice tomorrow, but, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's not going to be this way forever. We'll get into some of that. Before we do, last week we got to talking about, you know, concealed carry and the laws that are on the books and some of the changes that are coming. And I had a person just text a few minutes ago, Bill, that basically said, you know, he has a problem with the way that we stated that it's, you know, if you're caught carrying and doing things without a concealed weapons license, permit, you could lose that privilege of having that particular, you know, quote unquote, license down the road. And his point was, you know, by federal law and our Second Amendment rights, we have the ability to do so. It's the states that have infringed upon that. And my comment back is, well, I get that. And you and I both agree, by the way. But at the end of the day, the law is the law. Unless you've got a lot of dollars to go fight it. I don't really know what else to say, Bill, because it's expensive to fight these things if you don't have the cash to do so.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and people got to hear what we're saying. And what we're saying is we're not saying we agree or disagree with what it is. We're just stating the facts. Correct. Here's the facts. Here's the law.
SPEAKER 07 :
And really quick for everybody listening, I disagree. with a lot of the gun laws we have on the books, not just in Colorado, but in a multitude of states. I'm one that says that the founders, the reason we have the Second Amendment is not to protect ourselves against the bad guys, but to protect ourselves against a tyrannical government, meaning that we have full rights to do anything we need to do. In fact, I would go one step further, and even all of those that are on the other side of the aisle that would say, well, that doesn't mean you should be able to own machine guns and cannons and bombs and so on. Frankly, Bill, there's a good argument that says, well, yeah, actually, I believe that was the founding father's intent. We have laws on the books that don't allow you to own a machine gun without a full, you know, license and a stamp and all sorts of other rigmarole you have to go through, which, frankly, I don't agree with either. But that's the law that's there. And frankly, that law has been challenged numerous times and no one has won yet.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah. We again, we're not saying we agree or disagree. I mean, we do disagree with the law, but that's not the point of our statement. Our statement is that's what it is. And you can choose whatever battle you want to fight.
SPEAKER 07 :
And for me personally, that's not a battle that. I choose to fight because those are, for those of you listening, those are very expensive battles to go through. And remember that depending upon who's in charge, what jurisdiction you're in, who actually decides to, quote unquote, write you a ticket or in some cases arrest you, Bill, some of these things could result in felony charges, meaning you have a lot of other problems now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you've opened up the door to a lot of other stuff. And here's the situation you've put yourself into. A, I can have the proper permit so that I can carry my gun and I have my gun. Or B, I get caught and now they take and confiscate all my guns. And now through that battle, I have no gun. Right. I'm not fighting any battle. So, I mean, it's, again, I'll say it again, choose your battle, whatever you want.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and this particular person is basically saying, you know, I'd love them to challenge someone like him who is, you know, a law-abiding citizen that's never had a problem, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Again, Bill, like I just said, and I want to be a reminder to everybody listening, that's not the point. And there's a lot of law-abiding citizens that have had no record whatsoever that find themselves at the wrong end of the law, depending upon who's in charge and what jurisdiction you're in and so on. And if they want to make an example out of you, Bill, they will.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And if you ever have to use your guns— in a self-defense situation, the lawyers are coming out. Whether you're right or wrong in the use of force, you're going to fight that battle, and you're probably going to lose that civil battle because, oh, you didn't have a gun. I mean, I know a lot of people that have been in motorcycle accidents where it wasn't even their fault. But because they didn't have a motorcycle license, guess what? Now, they were a violation because they weren't supposed to be driving a motorcycle if they didn't have a license. So therefore, they took away all their power.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you bring up a great point. This isn't even just, for those of you listening, on the criminal side. You can sue somebody over a ham sandwich on the civil side. And I gave an example on Rush to Reason the other day of a local case whereby there was a ride up in Glenwood. I don't agree with the verdict, by the way, but the jury awarded the... into the family that was basically the victim of a child's death, at the end of the day, $200 million award. And if this continues on and they're not able to fight that and somehow get that lowered down to whatever their insurance would cover, Bill, at the end of the day, that would wipe out that business. they would say, well, you don't have anything to lose. Actually, that's not true. The way civil cases work, and by the way, this really goes along with what we talk about on Ready Radio because all of this stuff goes into preparedness end of things. For those of you that don't realize, if you lose a civil case and there is a judgment against you, You may very well not have the money to pay said judgment, but here's how that works. Your wages and whatever you make from that point forward will be garnished and go towards that judgment, meaning you won't have a pot to pee in the rest of your life.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they can seize whatever assets you have. That's right. Your 401ks, your retirements, any stocks, anything like that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Here's a really quick, for all of you that don't believe me, there's a true story. I use this as an example quite a bit on Drive Radio on Saturdays when it comes to car insurance. There was an example that I got, a personal example years ago from a listener. where there was a grandfather, fairly well-to-do grandfather, and the grandson was getting the license and learning to drive and so on. So grandfather buys grandson a car and insures it in his name and so on. Well, lo and behold, something happens. There's a bad accident. Several people are killed. And because it was in grandfather's name and grandfather's insurance, grandfather lost everything. Yeah. So all of you listening, you may not think this is a big deal. I'm here to tell you it is.
SPEAKER 11 :
It absolutely is, John. And you have to awaken to that. And here's the other response to I have the other comment. I'm a law-abiding citizen. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. But you know what? That's the same argument that the liberals are using with the immigrants. Hey, these guys are good. These guys are good. But yet they broke the law.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
So they could be totally good. They could be an asset to society. They could be great people not breaking any law. Oh, but you broke one. You came across illegally. So, you know, we've got to stop the hypocritical statements. I'm sorry, but that's what it is.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're right. No, I agree with you. I agree with what you're saying. And my point with some of this is, you know, comment back, as I doubt they would get that technical over quote-unquote paperwork. Carrying a gun concealed and then firing that weapon at some point in time, you're involved in something, Bill, and you don't, like you said, you don't actually have – you know, the proper credentials, quote unquote, to do so. That's where things start to snowball and get kind of hairy. And again, depending upon where you're at, what jurisdiction you're in and how hard a local district attorney, by the way, wants to be and how much of an example out of you he wants to make or she wants to make. Again, Bill, at the end of the day, personally speaking, that's just not a path I want to go down.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and even if you live in a pro-gun county, you've still got that civil fight you're going to have to fight. And how much are you willing to spend to defend yourself? Right. I mean, that's – we just – having the same conversation here over and over again.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know, but my point on the ready part of it is, folks, this applies to, by the way, a lot of areas that I personally don't agree with. For example, Bill, in your world, in the electrician world, there's all sorts of things that you frankly have to go and pull permits for that personally I look at and say that's nothing more than the city or the county wanting to extract dollars at the end of the day. That actual permit for you to go do that work isn't going to really change the outcome of anything, but it's a way for them to
SPEAKER 11 :
collect revenue absolutely and the price of permits are going through the roof right now and not only that but now they're charging you per the permit based on your material cost so yeah I mean how many hands or how many times are we going to hit yep sales tax right basically that's what it is that's exactly what it is so again folks I don't agree with any of this stuff I
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't agree with the double taxation on used cars. I don't agree with property tax to really get down to it. I don't believe the way they do that. I don't believe in paying for public education for kids that aren't related to me. I mean, I can go down the list, Bill, of things that I don't agree with, but here's what happens. If I don't pay my property taxes, Bill, what happens?
SPEAKER 11 :
They're going to come and seize your property.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. You don't own it at the end of the day is what happens. So you cannot agree with something in principle, and there's lots of things, Bill, that you, I, and a lot of others out there listening don't agree with in principle, but that doesn't change the outcome when something actually comes off it. That's my point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and here's what I'll say about this, because sometimes when we have this argument with people, they're saying, oh, well, you're just going to be a lemming, you're just going to be a slave, you're just... you know, turning your head and going along with the system, that I could hear some people saying that. Oh, so you're just telling me just to go along and not really have any protests or buck the system or anything. Here's what I'll continue to say over and over and over and over again. Stop focusing on things you can't control and focus on what you can control. And so that's the way of the world. That's the way it's always been. In my opinion, it's not going to get any better. It's going to get worse. So you can either spend all this time and energy fighting the system or you can figure out what you can do. to have a more self-sufficient life outside of the system. Right, right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And if you want to be a part of the solutions in some of these areas, well, then you know what? Go find a candidate that you really like that you can get behind that you think might have influence. Go get behind some of these organizations, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners and so on. You know, there's all sorts of organizations, you know, Second Amendment right organizations and so on out there, Bill, where you can donate and help those guys fight some of these causes. If that's something you really, truly believe in, and I do, and I do donate to these individuals or to these organizations, I should say, Bill, because at the end of the day, those are things that one individual cannot fight City Hall, but collectively can we, and that's what these organizations do. So if you really want to do something, go find somebody you trust and donate to them.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and that's exactly right, John, because we have a lot of people, a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks, I call them. They're now called keyboard warriors. They're called whatever. They have a lot to say, but at the end of the day, they ain't doing nothing. You know, they ain't going down and participating in their, you know, Chamber of Commerce, or not the Chamber of Commerce, but their commissioners meeting or their town hall meetings or whatever their structure is and wherever they live. They're not participating in any of those things. They're not supporting organizations that, you know, to your point, have, you know, bigger weight. Some leverage. And they're just complaining about stuff. And then the biggest thing you could do, too, is vote with your dollars. Right. You know, hey, if you know that, you know, so-and-so store... is kind of anti-whatever, then don't shop there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great example, Bill. Years ago, Panera Bread came out and said, listen, we don't want, we've got a gun-free zone, we don't want you carrying inside of our stores. Bill, I've been to one Panera ever since then, and typically if I go, it's because somebody else invited and they want to have a meeting there and there's nowhere else to go, so you just, you know, grin and bear, and by the way, I still carry inside because I really don't care about their policy, but at the end of the day, that's their policy and I can choose to spend my money elsewhere, and I do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly. So you can do your own boycott, if you will.
SPEAKER 07 :
And really quick, in that example, some of you would say, well, John, I thought you just said a moment ago you need to abide by the law and do this and do that. Store policy, Bill, is not law.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's not law, and they can't arrest you. No.
SPEAKER 07 :
They can ask you to leave if they were to actually see that you're carrying. They could ask you to leave the premises, and then you would have to leave if they're asking you to. But if they don't notice and they don't see you, there is not a single law that says you can't carry in a restaurant.
SPEAKER 11 :
And if you refuse to leave and the police get involved, the only charge that you could get is trespassing. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. And, again, I know we're kind of getting into some of the weeds. I probably should have our attorney on here at some point and go through some of these things. And he'll tell you the same thing. Kevin's very level-headed, Kevin Flesher. What he'll tell you is, you know, don't make a mountain out of a molehill unless you really have to. If there's a principle and there's something you really want to make a stink out of, okay, great, hire him, go for it, and do so. But in a lot of cases, Bill, you're better off to just, you know, walk away, ignore it, move on. In that case, you know, you're in a place, a business, you know, a merchant, and they ask you to leave because they see that you're carrying or something along those lines. Okay, best thing to do is say, yep, yep, you know, I get it. That's your policy. I honor that, and I'm going to leave. Goodbye. Yeah, just leave. Don't make a stink out of it is my point.
SPEAKER 11 :
The employees won't even say anything anyway. They'll just probably call the police on you, and you'll be like, oh, well, they didn't ask me to leave. Sorry, I didn't see the sign. I leave, and go on, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, again, just to make sure that I'm clear, a lot of folks are going to say, well, John, you just said, you know, abide by the law, do this, do that. That's not law. That's not law. Thank you, Bill. At the end of the day, that's a store policy, which, you know, hey, I'm also a business owner. And I've said this numerous times, whether you like a store's policy or not, I will always defend the right of a business to have whatever policy they want. Because at the end of the day, the customers can decide whether they want to do business there or not, and that'll take care of itself. So at the end of the day, I'm still one bill that will give every owner the right, whether it's right, wrong, or otherwise, I will honor their right to make whatever policy they want, whether I agree or disagree.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, yeah. And you know, the thing too, John, is a lot of people like to quote what they think is law. And it's the furthest thing from law. People don't know what the law is. They've either heard somebody else, they're just regurgitating information, or maybe they're hearing something through the false news that we have, or, you know, the Google or whatever, chat GPT, which gives incorrect information all the time. My point is, is a lot of people don't actually know what law is, and they run around quoting stuff. Like, here's a great one, right? I saw on Facebook on the marketplace or next door or whatever it was. They're like, you have to have 10 acres in order to shoot in Elbert County. Nope.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, that's not true.
SPEAKER 11 :
You just have to ensure the bullet doesn't leave your property.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because for an example, Bill, you could own 10 acres, but if you're shooting improperly and you're right next to your fence line, for example, and you're not paying attention, that bullet strays out of your area and goes somewhere else, you're still liable.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And that's really the only requirement is that you can insure that a bullet doesn't leave your property. There's no set amount of... No, I mean, I live in unincorporated Jefferson County.
SPEAKER 07 :
There is no law against shooting. And even though I'm close to the city, if I wanted to set up my own, quote unquote, indoor shooting range, I mean, I'm too close to houses to do any kind of outside shooting. But if I wanted to go and actually put even some of those portable shooting ranges that are built inside of containers, if I wanted to put one of those in, I'm well within my right to do so, Bill.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. So people just don't know the law.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. Okay, so before we go to break, along those lines, since we just got done talking about concealed carry and all of that, you being an instructor, what areas by law are you not allowed to conceal carry in? Federal. Federal.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you're not supposed to carry into, you know, what would be like a courthouse or, you know, a school or, you know, post office, anything that is federal government is really it. So maybe city county buildings just depends on that local code there. But federally, yeah, we're not carrying around, you know, schools. But here's the thing. They did have a thing where they're trying to pass where you couldn't even have the gun in a school parking lot. So, you know, that kind of makes it hard, right? So if you are carrying and you're going to honor the requirement that I can't carry in the school, so I properly store my firearm in my car, my car can't be in the parking lot. Now, that didn't pass. So if I'm in the parking lot of the school, I can have my gun, right? It's just when I enter into the building, you know, some people will say, oh, churches too. No, churches are private institutions.
SPEAKER 07 :
Churches set their own policy, quote-unquote.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so churches don't fall underneath that. They tried to get it under there this last go-around. They were trying to include churches as a place of no-carry zones and stuff. But, you know, movie theaters, you know, stores, restaurants, whatever, you know, you can do whatever you want. But if they have a sign there, the only thing you can do is get caught for trespassing. And, you know, remember this. State of Colorado, statewide, you can open carry. You don't need a permit. You just need to be 18 or whatever it is. So you could open carry. Now, there's been a lot of changes because there used to be, and I don't remember the name of the law, but there used to be a law where no city or county could supersede state law. And so everybody had to kind of ride the same law as the state law. That went away. So our current governor got that out of there. Now every county and city can make up their own rules, and you go through, you know, I can't... I wouldn't open carry in Denver, for example.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're going to find yourself in a heap of trouble.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and you're just asking for stuff anyway. I'd never open carry, because if something does go down, you're probably number one on the hit list there, because they're going to see that, and you just make yourself a target. But, you know... But anyway, you go through Westminster, hey, they've got a six-round magazine capacity, and you roll right across the road and you get into Arvada or whatever, and it changes, and it's just ridiculous now anymore as to even what. The local codes are, because they did away with that, you know, can't supersede state law. I think they were trying, they were talking about doing a national with the Second Amendment. Hey, your state firearms can't supersede the national firearms, but I don't know if that'll ever happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which would be nice if they did.
SPEAKER 11 :
I heard they were trying to do something. Beautiful.
SPEAKER 07 :
Point being, you, I, you know, collectively, we don't agree with everything that's on the books. And there's a lot of it we don't agree with. But all we were saying is it is. And do you really want to go down that path at the end of the day? And what I will say, Bill, is, you know what, if you feel comfortable going down that path and that's something that you're not concerned about and you feel like you've got enough resources to handle whatever would come along, then, you know what, knock your socks off.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it's the same argument, John. Again, we're being hypocritical because we'll get a big fuss about the Second Amendment, but do you understand what all your tax dollars are going towards? Right. I don't agree with the majority of where the government is spending my tax dollars.
SPEAKER 07 :
True. True. Good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
So what do I do? Stop paying taxes? Good point.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's like this whole, not that I want to get down on a rabbit trail and we've got to take a break, but it's like this whole sovereign citizen nonsense. I saw a license plate the other day, I think it was on Facebook, where Somebody had, you know, a sovereign citizen, actual steel license plate that essentially said that, you know, they're sovereign and they're not subject to any of the regulations. You know, they're they're traveling. They're not driving all that nonsense, by the way. And I've talked to plenty of attorneys on that. And it is utter nonsense, because at the end of the day, if you don't handle that correctly after being pulled over, you're probably going to the clink.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, you could probably fight it, but how much are you willing, money and time, how much are you willing to spend to fight it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and that one, unfortunately, has been shot down in court so many times that, you know, those of you that believe in that sovereign citizenship nonsense, good luck with that one.
SPEAKER 11 :
And here's the best thing you can do, John. If you really have a problem with it, look up a state such as, like, Wyoming. or, you know, somewhere that, you know, they have a lot more liberties, they're more gun-friendly, and go there. Yeah, go move.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great point. No, great point. Can't argue that. All right, let's take a break. We're going to come back, talk about some things to get ready when it comes to winter, whether it be your home, your vehicle, you name it. We've got some things there we want to discuss. We'll come right back. Again, Ready Radio, it's ready-radio.com. Bill's website, prep, the number two, prep2protectco.com. We'll be right back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Again, website ready-radio.com. All right, Bill, let's continue on. And I know we spent quite a bit of time recapping last week, but important stuff. And the only reason is because I got some text messages in on that, and I feel like when I do, and that's the pulse of what's going on, and we've got people commenting on it, I feel like it's a time to address those things. And again, all of you listening, I'm not telling you what to do or not do. You guys are... You know, grown adults, you do whatever you feel like you need to do. Just remember every decision has a consequence. Right, Bill?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, that's it. That's all I'm saying. So, okay, let's get into prepping for winter. And given the fact that we're heading down that path, and I might even continue some of this on into my show tomorrow on Drive Radio, let's start on the vehicle side. I don't know that we'll get much further than that today anyways, given we've only got about a half an hour left. So give us some basic things that you feel, and I'll add to this as well, some basic things you feel like people this time of the year, I mean, some things should be in a vehicle at all times, but especially in winter, what are some things folks should have in their vehicle?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, especially this time of year, fall, where it could be 70, 80 during the day, and then once the sun goes down, drop down to the 40s. I think that's something that, you know, me personally, I tend to forget. You know, you leave the house, you're like, oh, it's really nice out, and then you're out for the rest of the day or whatever, and then You know, you're getting 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock, and all of a sudden it's like, oh, it's getting chilly, and I don't have a jacket with me. So, you know, one thing that I would definitely keep in the car is, you know, a lightweight jacket, maybe one of those puffers. You know, you could buy one of those puffers for 20-some bucks on Amazon that actually pack down, fold up into a nice little jacket. tight compartment there and just have that on hand. Now, the problem is, is when you get home and you wear that jacket and take it off and you're like, oh, I didn't get back to the car. So that's that's tends to be my problem is. I'll do that. I'll keep an umbrella in there. I'll have some wool socks. These are the kind of things I just keep in there all the time anyway. Some wool socks. I'll have a hat, whether it's a stocking hat or a knit hat or whatever they're called these days, beanies or whatever they're called. I'll have those in there. You know, one thing that I also do, especially around this time of year, and, you know, historically, we have had snow by now, you know, in years past. True, true. In mid-October, we had snow before.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we can have, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I go to, you know, Walmart or whatever it is, and they have, like, the gallon-size kitty litter that you can buy in just a little gallon-size jug. Yeah, yeah. And I'll throw one of those in the car because those can help. You know, you get the fall and the spring snows that turn into slush, and it just gets really slick and hard to navigate. So I'll usually have a jug of kitty litter, you know, in all of my cars. I'll have some of those collapsible shovels in there. You know, when we talk about these things, John, remember, you know, you can go to the extreme of, oh, my gosh, you know, I don't got the trunk space for all the stuff you're talking about. But, you know, you've got to look at your own situation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and really quick, to your point, and this is where you're right, and in some cases, depending upon what you're driving, and I've had different vehicles throughout the course of my life, my driving career, I guess you could say, Bill, where some vehicles you have a little more room than others, and The downside, the ones that have more room, is you just pack it in with more stuff. You tend to not be quite as, how should I say, thoughtful in those particular things that you're carrying. But, folks, let me tell you what. There's a lot more room in your vehicle than you probably think. Here's the key. Keep it clean in the first place. In other words, keep all of your other stuff clean. to a minimum, trash bags, things like that, you know, keep things clean. And remember, you've got places that are under seats, behind seats, things along those lines. So don't just think that, well, I really don't have any room in my trunk. Okay, well, do you have any other places? For example, that collapsible shovel that Bill just mentioned, most of those are short enough they would fit underneath the seat of most vehicles.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and usually around this time of year, Costco starts carrying a lot of this stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know if you're Costco shoppers or not. They do. They come in two packs, actually.
SPEAKER 07 :
They do, and I always, usually this time of the year, even for my guys, I'll buy a couple of two packs and throw in different trucks because nothing worse than getting stuck and all you needed was a little bit of a shovel to get out, and that's all you need, and now you don't have one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, and you're not digging a trench with it, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you're just trying to clean out away from the tires and stuff to where if you can get a little bit of traction, off you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and then you can throw in a little bit of that kitty litter or whatever, you know. Hey, you're good, you know. I also keep, you know, kind of debate between the two, whether, you know, you have a toe strap or you have a toe rope. You know, I tend to like the rope a little bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
It doesn't matter. I mean, really. And somebody used to sell those for years and years. Here's the reality, folks. As long as you buy a high quality of either, it's personal preference. It's like, do I drive a Chevy or do I drive a Ford? Because at the end of the day, they will both do the same thing as long as you buy a good strap. What I mean by that is you can't buy... a small inch and a half strap that's rated for 10,000 pounds and expect to get even a small car pulled out because by the time that vehicle is weighted down in the snow, has other resistance against it, that's not enough strap. If you buy a solid 25,000 or 30,000 pound strap, you won't have any problems. And the reason I know that, Bill, for years and years and years, we didn't have rope. All we had were those. That's all I sold, and they did just fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And what I was referring to, John, is I tend to think I could have more other uses for a rope other than just towing. True. And that's what I would mean by do I carry the rope or the strap? I mean, that's my only thinking with that. But there's also...
SPEAKER 07 :
I want to add one more thing to that, so folks, because this is really important. Never, ever, ever buy a strap with hooks built onto it. Those are cheap. They're chintzy. Those hooks will break. They'll fly through the windshield. They can actually kill people. At the end of the day, never buy a strap. And I'll explain how you hook things up if you don't have hooks, but you never buy any of those, Bill, with hooks on them.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, and that's what I was trying to say there was you look for attachment points.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Whether it's a little – they've got those straps that are meant just for the attachment point. And what I mean by attachment point is I'm attaching the rope to this device, which attaches to the frame of my car. Um, and they've got different ones, you know, shorter straps, if you will, they're in like the figure eight pattern or whatever they are.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the other thing too is, uh, for a lot of you listening, the other thing is in clevises are cheap. That's what they're called. They're fairly good size. Uh, most of these straps, you can take even just the, the round end of the strap, the rope, whatever, put that onto an attachment point, use the clevis to make all that happen. and off you go, and it really is handy to do that. The other thing to be really careful of, and a lot of guys will do it, all the straps have the big U at the end of it, and a lot of guys will have a trailer ball on a truck or something along those lines, and the easiest thing to do is just throw that thing over the trailer ball. Well, the problem with that, Bill, is it can slip off the trailer ball, and again, once that rope gets to slinging, it can become a really dangerous object at that point, so be careful if you just throw that over a trailer ball.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, you need to learn that. And, you know, I'd add to that, too, is learn a couple really good knots. Like, if you don't know how to tie a bowline knot, you need to look that up, and that knot needs to be one of your go-to knots. You know, you could tie that with a rope. I could tie that with a strap. I could tie it with all kinds of different things. It's a great knot that you can back back out of if you need to, but it doesn't give. I mean, I've used that knot for years, the bowler knot.
SPEAKER 07 :
One other thing I'm going to add to the straps for those of you listening and some of you are going to think, why would I need that even in a car? But, Bill, they come in so handy at times, and that is just in these. You don't have to spend a lot of money. I ordered a few of these for our trucks even this morning on Amazon. You can buy a... I believe it's an eight-pack on Amazon for $25, and that's just the inch-and-a-quarter ratchet straps, which they come in handy for. No, you're not going to tow your car out of a ditch. But, Bill, there's other times where you just might need to secure something, or you do have to spend the night, and you've got a tarp, and now you've got the ability with the ratchet straps to make yourself a little shelter and do some other things that you wouldn't otherwise be able to do. They just come in really handy and take up very little space.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, remember the multifunction? You know, I can use this. I mean, there's been many times where you run up to the store and you're like, oh, if I had a strap, I could strap this down. Maybe the box doesn't quite fit in your trunk quite well, and you've got to leave your trunk open, whatever, you know. And here's the other thing, too, John. You know, yeah, you might not ever use a tow strap, but you know what? You might be the good Samaritan, and you might see somebody stuck in a parking lot, and you You might, I mean, we had that happen at church one year where we had somebody stuck and everybody's out there trying to push the person out. And I'm like, hang on, guys, I got a rope. I got a rope right here in my truck. And we hooked that on and pulled her right out, you know, so I didn't use that for myself, but I used that for somebody else.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think, Bill, you'll find yourself, and for me anyways, you typically use that to pull other people out far more than you do yourself. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, or just allowing them to use your tool. Maybe somebody else is doing the pulling. It's not your car that's pulling, but there's a truck there or whatever, and they pull out the ratchet strap and it snaps, and they're like, oh, crud. In fact, that was I've been in that situation, too, where somebody's tried to pull somebody out with a ratchet strap, and they're like, yeah, the ratchet strap broke. Of course it did.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's only rated for a few hundred pounds, not thousands of pounds.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, that's a good one.
SPEAKER 07 :
I like the whole strap thing. The biggest thing there, Bill, is that just continues to keep you on your way. Now, I'm going to really quick add this in, because a lot of people go to the high country, and we'll get into tires and some of that stuff here momentarily as well, but for For those of you that are listening, maybe you're new to our area, maybe you're big skiers. I met some folks the other day, Bill, where they're new to the area, but they're big skiers, and they moved out here from Florida, and that's all fine and dandy. But this isn't Florida. And what we do even on our highways in winter, if you're going up skiing and they've shut the road down or something along those lines, you always hear those stories of somebody trying to go around or they take the back road or whatever the case may be, and they think they can get there that way. And they end up being far more stuck than if they would have just sat and waited out. They may even have to wait overnight on the freeway. But the thing about being collectively there with everybody else on the freeway is you're collectively there with everybody else.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, help is going to come more to that group of people than you being isolated off in a red road or something that nobody knows where you are. Correct. So stick together.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's sort of like that old, you know, Bill, when you're lost in the wilderness, best thing to do is sit down and wait for somebody to come to you because continuing to walk just makes it worse. That's sort of that similar situation in regard to what we just talked about with the car.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you're lost and you get more lost.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. And again, we hear these stories every single winter, Bill, whether it's in Colorado or other places where somebody decided, hey, I'll go off on my own. I'll find a shortcut. I'll still make it where I need to go. And they end up in the middle of nowhere. And in some cases, it ends very badly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah, right. Going back to the ratchet straps, John, here's another consideration, right? If you buy the bright orange ones, well, guess what? I can use that for signaling, too, if I need to. So, again, I'm using that one device for multiple things. You know, maybe I'm tying that, you know, strap to the radio antenna or something. I mean, when we had the the big bomb cyclone that hit out here in Elizabeth a couple of years back, you know, cars were buried and the only thing sticking up was their antenna. Good point. Little, little flag up on there.
SPEAKER 07 :
great point. And again, those things are so cheap that even if you had to help others and you took a, again, a pack of those, an eight pack, I didn't do the math on this, but an eight-pack is $25.50 or something. So, Bill, we've got those things down to where, you know, what are they, a couple bucks a piece at the end of the day? They're not that much. And so, regardless, even if you have to take one of those and you're cutting it up with your knife that you should always have with you, by the way, to do what you just talked about, one of those straps would identify multiple cars.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. Yeah. And you can leave a trail or you could do, even if you're calling a tow truck or you're calling emergency services, Hey, I've got, I've got an orange flag on my antenna. You know, it just, it just helps get them there faster and find exactly. And on that note, I sent you a link to those, those, um, led flares. you know, that you can, I don't know if you had a chance to look at those.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I did, yes. I actually carry those in my truck. When you sent me that, I'm like, yep, I have those. I know exactly what you're talking about. That's something I keep in my truck all the time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, those are good, you know, to have out so you can put that out. Even if you're at night, no matter what season it is, you've got to change a tire. You know, on the side of the road, throw those things out because we've got so many distracted drivers now. Anything that we could try to do to get some type of attention drawn to us is better than nothing, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because for those of you listening, what Bill's talking about is these are small little round kind of puck devices that go together and you can place them all around the vehicle and you can set them to where it's a... A steady light, a flashing light, all sorts of ways to actually attract attention to you. And not that flares aren't bad, but the problem with flares, Bill, is if they get a little wet or soggy and they may light, they may not. These, you flick a switch and off you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and maybe you have both, right? Redundancy. You have a couple flares in there, and you have a bag of these. I mean, again, the flares aren't going to take up much space at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, again, one thing else I was going to say, Bill, thanks for the reminder, because you just reminded me of this, talking about space. For those of you that have cars or even SUVs, and you think, man, I just don't have this much space, guys. Actually, you have more space for some of this stuff than what you think. Lift up, for example, most of you with SUVs have an area. It's not a trunk because it's in the back of your storage area, but you've got a platform that you raise up, and that's where the tire is. And in most cases, there is a lot of room in that cavity where you could put some of the things we're even talking about around the spare tire. Flares, whether they're the LEDs or regular flares, the ratchet straps, a blanket. Bill, you could put half a dozen items in that particular area and still get the lid shut with no problem.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, actually, I have a Chevy Bolt, which is a tiny car, and it has two compartments in the back underneath, and I forget about them all the time. I'm like, oh, yeah, there's a huge compartment underneath this rug there. You know, my Tacoma, I actually don't have much room in my Tacoma.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, they're tight. It's tight on space. Four-door midsize trucks, which that is. And I drove a Colorado for years and years. And, Bill, it wasn't any different. It was really tight in trying to configure enough stuff. So what I ended up doing is, you know, you have the old, you know, milk crate that you bungee cord into the back or bolt down or do whatever you want to. And a lot of stuff went inside of that because you didn't have enough room in the cab.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, you just throw it in the back. And most people now either have a Rhino lid or a topper or something that a lot of that stuff is good anyway back there. It's not getting wet and stuff. I lined my Tacoma with MOLLE panels in the back. and I have a gas can, and I have a water jug, and I have my shovel and all that stuff attached to the side, if you will, the bed on the molly. You know, because I still, the reason I have a truck is because I want to haul stuff, right? I mean, I go up and buy boards or whatever, and, you know, putting a whole shell on there kind of takes that away, John. You kind of lose a little bit of your hauling capacity, if you will. You do. So, you know, it's a pro and a con there with that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, one thing, and we should have mentioned this to start with, guys, but got to make sure you've got light. So you need a flashlight for sure, if not a couple. I usually have a couple in my vehicles outside of what you even already have on your phone, but having a good flashlight. And I usually buy the ones now that are all USB chargeable because if you've got power in the car, you can get power to the flashlight pretty easily. So that one's kind of cut and dried. And then don't forget, I know we talk about this a lot, but inside of the vehicle, something to start a fire with. And for those of you listening now, some of you that are really handy and have access to even the car battery and so on, you know what? You could have something as simple as just a roll of steel wool that you go out underneath the hood and you touch that from one post to the other. Voila, you've got fire. Okay, that's great. As long as the battery's got juice, you could do that. But, Bill, something where you can start a fire if need be.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I always, I mean, I have a lighter with me in my pocket, and it's interesting because whenever I pull that out, people are like, oh, I didn't know you smoked. Yeah, I don't. I've never have, never tried it, never did anything. But I use that stinking lighter a lot. I usually use it to get threads on my clothes or to seal off a piece of rope that I've cut or whatever. I can't believe, John, how many times I actually use that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And as you know, Bill, cars don't have lighters anymore.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they don't. I remember, shoot, every car used to have that.
SPEAKER 07 :
They used to.
SPEAKER 11 :
Push that button in there. You know, John, they make electronic lighters now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
My daughter had one at my grandson's birthday party, and it's USB chargeable, and she lit the candles with this thing. I carry one with me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I carry one in my briefcase with my laptop and stuff. It's so small and easy, Bill, that I carry that with me all the time. That one's a piece of cake.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I need to get one of those and play with it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they're not expensive. For those of you listening, that's a device you can buy for, I don't know, $10, $12. They're just not much money at all, Bill. They're easy. Yeah, that's nice.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, yeah, I would get a couple of those. And, you know, you throw a couple of tea candles in there. Oh, candles are a great idea.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you threw that on your dashboard, I mean, that's not going to create a lot of heat, but, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, great idea.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a little something if you need to.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did a test one time here on air, been a while ago, where we actually took the, it has to be not water-based, but you can take oil-based tuna, throw that in your car, have a little bit of string with you in a match, of course, and literally, Bill, you can take and poke just a teeny hole, take your pocket knife, you know, poke a teeny hole in the top of that tuna can, thread that string down in there, light it, and that thing will burn forever.
SPEAKER 11 :
hours and then when you're done you got something to eat yeah yeah that works well too i mean that i was when i was texting you my my list of stuff you know i kind of have this debate in my mind about water this time of year because you know they freeze and then if it's a full container you know it blows up the container and you know so it's like i don't tend to carry too much water in my car and the In the winter, I do in the summer, but in the winter, I tend to pull it out just because what good is a block of ice going to do to me? It's not.
SPEAKER 07 :
I got really quick. I got Eric on where to store stuff. Eric, go ahead, man. We got some time. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I was listening. Something like in my Toyota Highlander and I think one of my other cars, When you open the rear hatch, you've got those little plastic panels for when you go to change light bulbs.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great.
SPEAKER 08 :
Those cavities that are in there in the fenders. Yeah, I'm able to get a couple of small packages in there also.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great idea.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then, you know, you were talking about heating. I would be careful with, like, the tuna thing because you are producing carbon monoxide. Isopropyl alcohol burners do not produce the same carbon monoxide. It's got to be isopropyl, not one of the other alcohols or other fuel types, oil types.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, right. Yeah, and even the same thing with the candle. If you're doing any of those, you've got to make sure you're cracking a window, getting some oxygen in, of course. Absolutely, Eric.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I was one of the people driving from... my work all the way out towards southeast of Calhoun. I'm going through the blizzard last spring. I texted you during it, John. Yeah, we had lots of communication going on while you were stuck there. Yeah, I was able to get so far, but then what I ran into was the snowdrift coming off of somebody's truck. that had gone off road and it drifted downwind from the truck. And I was stuck in that, you know, until sometime in the morning and some volunteers were coming through and they pulled me out backwards and it pulled the, pulled the cover off my front bumper. I still need to repair that. But, um, you know, I had enough extra coats and other things and had enough fuel where periodically started up, re-warm up, and had spare flashlights, things like that. But I, because I'm moving houses, I pulled my main winter kit out. And so I did not have the extra, you know, the, what is it? They're like a six foot long tubular reflective material sleeping bag. And I didn't have, A couple of other things. And then I figured out, you know, I actually, I prefer to keep more tape in there because where the wind was infiltrating was coming through the speakers in the door.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
Getting into the door panel and then blasting my feet through the speakers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Ah, good one. You got to put that down. Good one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Just little things like that that I found out in that storm. And then... You know, one of the things I generally keep in a kit are those, you know, they're ice spikes, but they're the type that you put onto your existing shoes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Yep. Strap them on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Yep. Those weren't there. What was I wearing? Cowboy boots. No traction whatsoever. So even when I went to get out of the car to make sure the tailpipe was clear, I had no traction. You know, whereas if I'd still had those in there, I could have gotten out on that.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a great point. Yeah, great point. No, those are good. No, Eric, I'm going to run to John. But, no, I appreciate that. We're going to continue this conversation on the next week as well, so never fear. We'll be back talking more about it because we're close on time. But, John, I've got a few minutes. Go ahead. I've got two minutes.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, John, first thing you said, you said flashlights many times. You can get a USB rechargeable headlamp, which is fantastic. Way better than a flashlight because now you have two free hands.
SPEAKER 05 :
True.
SPEAKER 10 :
So there's a couple of different brands out there, but one of the places I found for stuff like that are outdoor stores because, you know, backpacking, we use a headlamp, so we have two free hands.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, right, right.
SPEAKER 10 :
So if you go to, like, a Sierra trading post, Just for instance, I think they call themselves Sierra now. They have a lot of seconds that work great that you can throw in the car. USB rechargeable. The ones I have also, you can pull the battery pack out and put three AAAs in it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 10 :
So that's a good thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 10 :
The other thing with Bill, Bill, you gave your military experience away when you said you used your lighter to get the threads off your uniforms.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we learned that. Good one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, we all learned that in dating.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, good one. Good one, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, John, thanks for the tip.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I appreciate it, John. All right, we've got about a minute left. Bill, what do you want to add? We'll continue this next week because there's a lot more still to cover, but what else do you want to close with?
SPEAKER 11 :
I want to talk about the headlamp thing. It's a great idea that John talked about, but one thing that, you know, in the self-defense context or even in the, you know, escape and evasion context of a headlamp, you know, I have both, okay, or you have a flashlight that, like the Olight Mini Warrior that I carry, if you're wearing a ball cap or whatever, the clip can go onto the bill. because here's the deal, even though I'm hands-free, wherever I look, I'm sending that light, right? And so, you know, if I'm trying to keep night vision or whatever, and I look at you, and I've got that headlamp, I just flashed you, you know, so I go back and forth on the headlamp versus the handheld, you know, and at the end of the day, if you have both, or you have a scenario to go either way, I like that option, but I don't want to be exclusive one or the other. Plus, you know, if I got a you know, depending on what I got on my head, you know, that headlamp may or may not be applicable to go around my head or whatever. So I just, you know... Yeah, that's a great point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great point. All right, Bill, I'll let you go. We'll talk more next week. Thank you very much. And, again, you can find Bill on his website, prep2protectco.com. Our website, ready-radio, and a lot of the things, .com, I should say, and a lot of the things that we've talked about today are listed on our website as well. We keep adding to that as we go. We'll be right back, though. Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, closing out this hour of Ready Radio. One thing I want to add to the list, we'll continue this on next week, but trash bags. That sounds really simplistic. And by the way, more than one. I would stick, and Eric had a great idea on where you could stick some of these sorts of things. You could put trash bags and stuff them in almost any type of cavity in the vehicle that you've got. And I would say have more than even one. Have three or four. They come in handy for all sorts of things from something to kneel on if you're changing a tire. to putting over yourself if it's really raining. Bill said an umbrella, but if you're trying to change a tire, umbrellas get kind of cumbersome because you don't have your hands free. Trash bags come in handy for all sorts of things along those lines. That's something else that I would stick in the car. We'll continue this on in week two, so if you're listening to a replay, make sure you get the second part of this show as well and go to ready-radio.com for that. Again, Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man on the Dana Show. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected to her. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Radio Craig C. If you want to follow me and what I occasionally say about the New York Yankees, that's totally fine. I get in on that, too. Several different Florida Man stories, some of them amazing. This one horrific, but also ridiculously Florida. A couple in Florida is facing charges after they left their 16-year-old son on the side of the road. They said they didn't want him anymore. At 16 years old, some parents might start to get frustrated with the young man, son especially, but I don't know, any teenager might be annoying. The right approach is not to leave them on the side of the road and try to drive away. That's not going to work out. Uniquely Florida about this story, they left him with a wad of cash and a bag of handguns. They're like, here you go, son. You're 16. You're an adult, according to us in Florida. So here's a wad of cash. And here's just a bag of an assortment of handguns. We don't know why you need so many. And in such a random thing, like not even in a box, man, like at least put them in a little safe or something. But now they just have them all in a bag and they're handing them to this guy. I have audio of Josh Taylor, who's the chief of staff for the North Port Police Department, talking about the ridiculousness of this story.
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The story was these people kicked him out of the car and gave him two bags. And once, through the course of that investigation, talking with him, we were able to figure out what was in those bags. There was the loaded weapons, and I believe there was a magazine as well. The report indicates that the child was handed these bags and said, you're the chosen one, good luck. So that's all.
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I got to be honest, a part of me would be a little bit motivated if someone handed me a bag of handguns and said I was the chosen one. But that's probably the wrong thing to take from this. And I'm a gun guy. I'm definitely very happy with the guns that I have right now. Of course, I don't think you could fill in on this show and not be a pro-gun person because Dana is so prolifically awesome in her own discussion and opinion of guns in her history and understanding the very important value of the Second Amendment. But no, teenager, side of the road, bag of handguns, probably not a good move. Uniquely Florida, though. A Florida man robbed $7,000 worth of lottery scratch-off tickets from a convenience store. So he goes in, he demands the scratchers, he leaves. Now, two things he did were wrong. The first one is he didn't know how to play scratcher tickets the pro way, which you don't scratch any of them. You just find your local grocery store or something and you scan them. That way you don't have to do anything other than scan to see if you won. He didn't do that part. He actually played all $7,000 of these tickets. Then he tried to bring the winning tickets back to the same convenience store that he stole them from. That's uniquely Florida. That's like, hey, bygones be bygones. Today's a new day. What I did yesterday doesn't count anymore. I'm here to, you know, take my sweet winnings from the stuff I stole from you the other day. That gets you arrested. That's usually not a good move. Another Florida man that made the news was naked and chasing Walmart workers inside a Walmart and in the parking lot of a Walmart. He was then found later in the wooded area near the Walmart, agitated and paranoid. Every part of that story 100% checks out in the world of Florida. First thing first, you show up at a Walmart and there's a naked guy. You probably think to yourself, man, there's a lot of other Walmarts. that I can go to. I don't know why I'm staying here. But if you're the employees, you're stuck dealing with it, calling the authorities. The naked dude is harassing people. I don't know if any of it was sexual in nature or if the naked thing is just an accident. That's always a confusion of mine. I always want to ask the criminal, and it's probably not the right way to go about it, but I can't help it. When nudity got into the equation for them, like the person who's arrested on the side of the road, traffic ticket, and then all of a sudden they're naked. Like, when did they decide that they were taking their clothes off? Was it an in the moment thing? I was this a premeditated nakedness that came about from like, you know, planning. If I ever get pulled over, I know it'll make the situation go away. I'll just get naked. But that feels like a byproduct and a question because I don't think in my own life I will ever be, you know, naked accidentally. I'm pretty sure I won't ever be naked accidentally. And in a situation like this. We're like, when you're arrested, you kind of want them to ignore it. You're like, and sir, you're naked. You're like, why does that matter? Why can't I be naked all the time? That's how these people seem to behave. And that is a problem. And then finally, one last Florida man story. A Florida guy stole a woman's purse. He found out that she had a one-month-old kitten inside the purse instead of any valuable stuff, which is just a weird thing to do. It's not a purse puppy. Dogs are better than cats, by the way, even if this kitten was probably adorable at one month. But you open up the purse, you've stolen the thing, and then you wind up, you have a brand new pet. That's a unique way for, say, adoption centers to try to get more of their pets adopted. Just put them in purses and leave them out on the side of the road and see if people say that doesn't sound right. Don't do that. Don't write your hate letters to me. Please, PETA, don't say anything to us. I'm kidding. But anyway, maybe it's a nice adoption thing. Put the puppy in the purse, hold the purse out and be like, look, you get a dog in a purse. And maybe that way we get more pets adopted. That's fine with me. And apparently a thing in Florida. All right. Well, sort of. Quick break. A lot more. Greg Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. DLash, DanaLashRadio and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected to her and everything's going on in the world of Dana. And she will be back on Monday. Let's do this. A few things. So first, Speaker Mike Johnson was furious that it's very likely that Democrats are trying to hold out in any sort of government shutdown until No Kings Day, which is a Antifa protest day, October 18th, in which a rally is supposed to happen in New York City or excuse me, in Washington, D.C., as well as New York City and other places where they protest no kings, which we don't have. By the way, we successfully already have no kings. You can all just go home. It's totally fine. But here's Mike Johnson saying that the belief is the Democrats are just waiting to keep the government shut down until that day because they like the optics of the government being shut down during no king's day, which is part of the reason that so many people hate politicians and hate the political system is this is easily believable. as a thing that Democrats could be doing just because they want to say out loud, even though it's their fault, that it's horrible that Trump is doing whatever they blame Trump for doing. Here we go.
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A very patient guy, but I have had it with these people. They're playing games with real people's lives. The theory we have right now, they have a hate America rally that's scheduled for October 18th on the National Mall. It's all the pro Hamas wing and the you know, the the Antifa people, they're all coming out. Some of the House Democrats are selling T-shirts for the event. And it's it's it's being told to us that they won't be able to reopen the government until after that rally because they can't face their rabid base. I mean, this is this is serious business hurting real people. Yeah. And I just I'm beyond words. I can't believe they're actually doing this.
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So two things I want to say in reaction to this. First, and I'm owning this and you don't care. I don't know why I'm even holding my feet to the fire because no one who listens to shows like this where I'm just a fill-in guy even remembers probably what I say. But when Republicans threaten to shut the government down, my reaction is often go ahead. I don't care. It's not going to impact my life all that much. It'll reopen in a certain amount of weeks after it shuts down. The only thing I ever care about is military men and women getting a paycheck still, which doesn't happen, even if the left will claim it does. You actually have to pass certain laws to make sure that the military individuals keep getting paid. It's ridiculous that the politicians get paid if they shut the government down. They don't actually get their checks stopped, but the military individuals who are serving our country do. That's insane. That's the only thing I ever really care about. Other than that, shut the government down. Who cares? In all honesty, use it as a catalyst to fire a bunch of people we don't need and clean up the bureaucracy that is our federal government. And I'd be thrilled. So when that is the stance, if it's Republicans in charge, I keep the same stance when Democrats are in charge, even as Mike Johnson says that people are actually being hurt because how much they care about those people seems to ebb and flow with what side of the aisle they're on. But as I say that, there are aspects to this. that I do think are interesting because of what you're selling more so than what you're doing. And what I mean by that is Democrats often sell that they're the party that cares more. I'm probably going to be a broken record about this today because so many stories feel like they lean into this narrative. Democrats tell you they're the good guys. They embolden their supporters to feel as though that they're good people and the people that they disagree with vehemently and maybe violently on the right are actually bad, horrible people. They're sexists and racists and, you know, everything else is. And they're they're the worst kind of individuals that exist in the bucket of deplorables, a version of a thing. And so they empower their side of the aisle to feel this way. And then when they play these political games and hurt the lives of people that they claim they care about, that hypocrisy does matter. Even if I don't say that to me, I'm as worried about the government being turned on tomorrow when it's turned off today. And that came out weird. I think I probably should have phrased that differently. But nonetheless, like it doesn't really impact my life. It probably won't impact your life that much unless you work for them directly. But nonetheless, like I think that that is interesting that what they're selling becomes so obviously untrue.
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Let's do a quick five on the Dana Show. DLash, DanaLashRadio, and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected to her. My name is Craig Collins. Radio Craig C. If you want to see me be sad about the Yankees being terrible this year, although now I won't tweet about them for several months. All right. Amazon's MGM will release the Melania Trump documentary. This was before the big news that she ushered in a deal with Vladimir Putin that will reunite children that are displaced in Ukraine because of the war there. This documentary had nothing to do with that. It was the lead up to Trump actually being inaugurated as the president of the United States after he was almost assassinated and killed. And I don't know why I said and killed. Assassinated means killed. But turned his head and miraculously survived. A unique story about a woman who is married to someone who, you know, miraculously is alive today. And yet a lot of people will hate the fact that it exists. MGM will be putting that out in January, I think for a couple days in theaters at least. We'll see how successful it is, we'll see how much people talk about it, but interesting nonetheless, and of course crapped on by mainstream media. Amel Gibson's Passion of the Christ has a sequel that's coming out. I am a Catholic, I am a Christian, of course. I think it's weird that the Passion of the Christ has a sequel, even if it's called The Resurrection of the Christ, and that story is interesting. That's a good story to tell in a movie theater somewhere. It's just odd. This has been a long-sitting, gestating potential movie that eventually will actually happen. It's going to have an all-new cast. They're recasting all the roles. I guess Jim Caviezel didn't want to play Jesus again, or I don't know what happened there. But nonetheless, just odd. Hollywood makes a lot of sequels. The Passion of the Christ is one of those movies that you didn't necessarily think would have a sequel coming out about it. I'm saying this as respectfully as I can, again, because I'm a Catholic person. I'm not making fun of it. I just think it's odd as a news story. All right. Other things out there. Area 51 crash mystery deepens as the FBI has joined investigations into tampering into the site. For anything you say that isn't happening that you don't want or that you don't like in the world of the FBI, like we didn't get enough information here or there. More alien stuff I'm always fine with. I don't think it's a distraction. People often say that Area 51 and alien stuff comes out when they want to distract you and push you away from some other story that you might pay attention to that is more valuable or more pressing in our society today. I can do both. I think that you can do both. I think we can all do both. I think when it comes to aliens and aliens specifically, I can pay attention to what the right hand is doing while also paying attention to what the left hand is doing. That is my promise to you. And that is my promise to anyone out there that we can all do this together. And then finally, one last quick story. Political bumper stickers are making people angrier in traffic instances. I guess road rage is going off the charts. If someone does something stupid in a vehicle and they have a giant Harris Walls bumper sticker, the odds of you getting mad go up. And the same is true for any of those idiots who see the Trump sticker on the back of your car. I just find that funny. I don't think that's as bad of a thing as people say it is. And if your car is plastered with political bumper stickers, I think you kind of understand that you might be making some people mad every single day all the time. And you don't seem to care if someone gets into a fit of additional road rage because you cut them off like a moron and you have a ton of stickers all over the back of your car. I think that's kind of a non-you thing, more so an on-them thing. Freedom of speech and everything, but you're asking for trouble, I believe, in that situation, so I'm not surprised it happens. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show. This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A whole lot of stuff out there to talk about. DLash, DanaLashRadio and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected. This is a Democratic politician doing terrible in a debate, which we've seen time and again. But this is uniquely awesome, especially considering one of the people she's trying to stand with. Seems to be a person who's unapologetically totally fine with political violence. But let's play some audio and then we'll break this down a little bit more. But once again, Democratic politicians swinging a mess in the world of back and forth debate. And even a moderator who was being called like a far right individual who definitely was not that going back and forth with these politicians. Just asking very basic, simple questions that the left leaning politician had no ability to answer.
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Thank you, Ms. Spanberger. I just I didn't hear an answer there on the endorsement issue. So I want to make sure. Will you continue to endorse Jay Jones to be the next attorney general of Virginia? And were you aware of these text messages before they released? You have 30 seconds.
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In fact, it appears that it was those who released the text messages and held them for years. So the public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages. What did you do about it? I learned of these text messages the day that they came out.
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Okay, look. I got to tell you something, and I got to be as honest as possible as I can in this and shoot the messenger if you want to. I'm a white guy about to be 40 at the end of this month. Literally on Halloween, I turned 40 years old. This white female politician, Spanberger, is running against a black female politician. The black female is the Republican. The white female is the Democrat. I might surprise some people with how that goes, but I love the attitude. That comes out of the opponent as she's saying, when did you know and what did you do? I want to play that part again because it's so good. And it's the kind of thing that you might attribute to, you know, a certain race, a certain attitude, a certain way of speaking, any of that stuff. The left would also celebrate if it was someone on their side of the aisle interjecting like this in this way. Of course, they said that this politician was rude. How dare she try to say and do things the way that if it's a Democrat who is of the same, you know, racial or I guess the same sex, they might celebrate the version of I don't understand what's going on here. They used to call Kamala Harris Mamala and they used to pretend as though her confusion with Donald Trump and her willingness to show it was a great expression of who she is and something to be celebrated. Wonder why it doesn't happen here.
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In fact, it appears that it was those who released the text messages and held them for years. So the public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages for many hours. What did you do about it? I learned of these text messages the day that they came out, and I denounced them as soon as I learned of them. She denounces murder. And importantly— At this point, as we move forward, the voters now have this information, information that was withheld for them, presumably for political reasons. But the voters now have the information.
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By the way, the moderator is also a black woman. So she's pushing back on Winsome Earl Sayers and the things that she is saying. I don't know if I guess the race card won't be played by anybody because of the makeup of the individuals on the stage. But I just I love this. And I think this is the kind of thing that if it were, you know, reversed parties the way we're expected, and it's a black female Democrat objecting to a white Republican woman or man in this way, I think that most media would be so thrilled with how this went down. They are not thrilled in how this went down because of how ridiculous it is. But the answer, by the way, is atrocious.
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It is up to voters to make an individual choice based on this information.
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Mr. Member, I understand what you're saying about the voters, but for you, do you still continue to endorse Jay Jones?
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Yeah, we we asked you about you. We want you to give us an opinion. We don't want you to explain how the political system works in its most basic sense, as if that's an answer to this question. Are you still throwing your support behind someone who seems to be very happy with and even celebrating political violence just weeks after Charlie Kirk is murdered?
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15 seconds. Go ahead. We are all running our individual races. I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant governor nominee. And it's up to every person to make their own decision. I am running my race to serve Virginia.
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What is your decision?
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What do you think?
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And that is what I intend to do. Thank you, Ms. Spanberger. We just want to clarify, you know, what you're saying is that as of now, you still endorse Jay Jones as attorney general.
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I'm saying as of now, it's up to every voter to make their own individual decision. I am running for governor. I am accountable for the words that I say.
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I love it so much. We just want one moment. You know what would be funny? It would be funny to force these politicians to have to behave like this with an obvious question. And I don't mean one about politics. I mean, like, make a video where politicians are standing in line at an ice cream store. And one after another are being asked what flavor of ice cream they want. And they have to answer that question the same way they answer their political questions today. So Abigail Spanberger would be saying, look, it's up to everyone else inside this ice cream shop, what ice cream flavor they want, what they're going to buy when it's their turn to purchase. And then someone would look at this insane human and be like, yeah, but what do you want? What flavor do you want? You know, it's not my choice. It's everybody else's choice. It's just insane. And the only way that they get away with this sort of stuff is because in politics, these rules have applied for forever. But you should. You should apply whatever the version of back and forth question is to something that doesn't matter. Like pretend it's your wife asking you if you mowed the lawn, which is something that happens to me on occasion if the lawn has not been mowed. And it is definitely one of my jobs. And I'll never let her do it. As a man, I feel uniquely horrible if I look outside and see the missus mowing the lawn. I think that Nate Bargetzi makes a joke about that. And I don't know why that is, but it's been my job since I was a little kid. My mom made me lawnmow boy, and I've been lawnmow boy ever since. That also felt weird to say in those terms. But nonetheless, if that happened, and I had the unfortunate situation of having to deal with an Abigail Spanberger in that situation, the answer to is the lawn mowed would be like, well, other lawns in the area have been mowed based on the decision-making of the people inside those homes. And if they did or didn't mow the lawn, that was their decision. Yeah, but is your lawn mowed? You know what? I'm going to plead the fifth here.
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Craig Collins fills in on The Dana Show to unpack a striking story the media isn’t giving enough attention to: First Lady Melania Trump has quietly brokered a diplomatic deal with Vladimir Putin to reunite Ukrainian children displaced by war with their families. Eight children have already been returned in the last 24 hours—an unprecedented move by a first lady. Collins contrasts this real-world diplomatic achievement with the Nobel Peace Prize committee’s decision to honor a Venezuelan opposition figure in hiding, rather than recognize Trump’s track record of brokering peace deals. The show dives into the media reactions, Fox News comparisons to Eleanor Roosevelt, and how Trump’s foreign policy consistently defies conventional wisdom. Plus, Craig draws a personal parallel about responding to political bias without giving opponents the reaction they want.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. It is amazing that one, President Trump did not get the Nobel Peace Prize and that it actually went to someone who's in hiding. I'll tell you why she's someone that's inspiring, but maybe not impacting the world as much as the leader of the United States is, as he's ushering in peace deal after peace deal. All of that is stuff that I'd like to get to, but before I do any of that, by the way, at DLash, at DanaLashRadio, on X, on Twitter, great ways to stay connected to her, great job that she and her team does on social media. You need to follow that stuff. At Radio Craig C, if you want an occasional Yankee tweet from me, which is much less interesting. But anyway, before I get to anything on all this stuff that I plan to talk about today, Melania Trump, the first lady, has ushered in a deal with Vladimir Putin that will help reunite children that have been displaced by the Ukrainian war with their families. This is uniquely a good thing. This is the kind of thing that Democrat, Republican, all sides of the aisle can put down any version of fighting and say, yes, we're supporters of this. This is great. Of course, they won't do it. Democrats hate Trump so much they can't at all say anything that happens is good if a Trump is involved. But let's hear from Melania as she made a big announcement today about something that actually is good in the world that matters and seems to, in and of itself, maybe be capable of being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, if only it had happened a few days ago, so they could give it to Melania and not President Trump, instead of someone, again, who's in hiding in Venezuela. But I'll get to that. Here we go.
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...with each other for the benefit of all people involved in this war. My representative has been working directly with President Putin's team to ensure the safe reunification of children with their families between Russia and Ukraine. In fact, eight children have been rejoined with their families during the past 24 hours. Each child has lived in turmoil because of the war in Ukraine. Three were separated from their parents and displaced to the Russian Federation because of frontline fighting. The other five were separated from family members across borders because of the conflict. including one young girl who has now been reunited from Ukraine to Russia. I have learned a lot about this matter during the past three months. Russia has demonstrated a willingness to disclose objective and detailed information reflective for the current situation. The Russian Federation provided biographies and photographs of each child involved in this week's reunification, along with an overview of the social, medical and psychological services afforded to the Ukrainian children.
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Yeah, it was amazing. Amazing story. And again, the craziest part about this is that a whole lot of people in a whole lot of places will refuse to acknowledge the importance of this, the value behind something like this, and tell you that it's nothing or it's a lot of pomp and circumstance for something that would have happened anyway if Democrats were in charge, whatever the way to take away from it might be. But Melania Trump making a huge announcement, doing something that Fox News at least compared to, To another pretty important first lady out there in the world, let's hear some of that audio of their reaction after Melania makes the announcement that she brokered a deal with Vladimir Putin that would return children to their families.
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Melania Trump's announcement. This is huge for a first lady to be speaking with Vladimir Putin, who, by the way, under the Biden administration, could not do a deal with our president and somehow has managed to do this backdoor deal with the first lady of the United States.
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You'd have to go back to Eleanor Roosevelt to find a first lady who dealt with diplomacy and security issues like this. It's extraordinary. I think there's a connection between what we just heard with Melania Trump and what's happened in Gaza. This administration takes every conventional wisdom and breaks it over its knee. The conventional wisdom in the Middle East was you can't make peace unless you first make a Palestinian state. So Donald Trump comes along in 220 and gets the Abraham Accords. The conventional wisdom in Gaza was first you have to have a ceasefire for a little while and you get some of the hostages back. He turns it around. No, we're going to get all the hostages back first all at once. And then you're going to have a long ceasefire. And so this is the secret of the success of the administration in diplomacy is that they just don't accept the conventional wisdoms and they break them over their knees.
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They do whatever they want, and they do whatever they want in a good way, which is exactly what the people on the other side of the aisle will tell you is horrible and terrible. This is amazing, though. And again, I guess a weird way to couch this is in talking about how Trump didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize. And I think the reason... that the person who was chosen for the Nobel Peace Prize is who she is. She's someone who, again, is in hiding in Venezuela as a leader of the opposition party. Her name is Maria Corina Machado. She can't do much on a world stage beyond what she symbolizes. You know, she's a person who's alive. She's a person who's in hiding. She's a person who's barred from any sort of political position in the country she's in. And the reason for all that is, you know, people in positions of authoritative power. Now, that's an inspiring story. Is it worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize when you have another person who's in charge of a very important country on a world stage ushering in peace deal after peace deal? I would say no. Trump's ability to have influence on what happens throughout the world is is singular. No one else has the kind of influence that the president would have, especially Trump, in the way in which he wields it, demonstrated by the first lady making a deal with Vladimir Putin. I think if Melania Trump is the first lady of a country other than the United States, it probably doesn't happen. This probably doesn't get done the way it occurs. But nonetheless, the fact that this becomes a byproduct of, I think, a very political decision by the Nobel Peace Prize group to choose not to supply something to Trump because they didn't like the optics of it, which is a shame because they should be above that. And to be totally honest, I've seen a lot of takes out there. I think Drudge Report is one of the places that has it, or at least is using it as a headline. What will Trump do? Who will be, you know, hurt or harmed in his reaction and his fighting back in not being given the Nobel Peace Prize? Watch out, Norway, I think was one of the headlines I saw out there. Here's what I actually believe he'll do. Here's what I think will happen. do even more to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize that you're not being given. The best way to rub salt into the wound of those who are uniquely trying to push you out is to actually continue to succeed at the thing that they're upset you're doing in the first place. They want him to throw a tantrum, to be angry, to do something that they'll decide is quote-unquote bad because that helps to say, well, see, this is why we didn't give you the prize in the first place. It's actually something that's happened to me in a workplace before. And I wonder if it's happened to you in some part of your life. People who dislike you for a reason that has nothing to do with how you treat them or how you behave and has everything to do with your political side of the aisle. They dislike you because from jump, they've decided, oh, this person can't get along with them. I don't like what they think politically. I don't like what they do. In the case of the Nobel group, it's Trump and just anything and everything that they think he is. So in that, they try to find a way to set you off to make you the bad guy, and then if you react at all. And here's my own personal story. There was a situation I was working on with a news director at the time. The news director wound up like storming in to the studio that I was in and yelling at me and a guest about the way we were covering a topic. which I thought was insane, not just because we were covering it accurately. The topic we were discussing, which doesn't matter, was about Stephen Colbert's staff going to the Capitol building and insurrecting it. And we were joking when we used that word because it was funny to talk about it in the same context of what happened on January 6th. But it made a news guy very mad. And he stormed into the room and he yelled at me and he yelled at somebody else. And it was crazy. And like, it meant nothing. And then he left. And later on, I think a producer came into the room and said, hey, they just want you to know this. And all I said in reaction is, oh, I don't care. That was my reaction. I said it like that. So you and I know I said, oh, I don't care about any of this that's going on out there. I'm going to keep doing my show my way with my guests and talk about the topics with the opinions that we have. And then it inevitably wound up in an argument between me and this person after the show in front of other colleagues. And I wound up hearing that like I was as much at fault as anyone else. And I was like, what are you talking about? There were like four or five moments where I was absolutely the cooler head in the room. And the person who's like, all right, I'm going to let this go. I'm going to let someone storm into a room that I'm in with a guest, a radio show guest and yell at us, yell at me and the guest. Like they have the authority to do that when they don't and not blow up and scream and yell. And I think that's the mistake. If I'm being honest, anytime in your own life, where you allow someone to step across line after line after line, and you don't do anything about it. I've noticed that people who react to those lines, like say I went in and stormed into the boss's office and said, how dare this occur? I think there's a chance that my position would have been better heard. So, again, to go back to Trump, to use this as a catalyst to actually talk about the news of the day and not just complain about my own things that happened years ago in my own life. But what I think is interesting about it is that if Trump reacts the way that media wants him to, they get to write off everything. They get to ignore every part of the success he's had and the reason he's deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize. And if he just continues to do the thing that they're upset he's doing, ushering in peace and doing a great job in the world, then they'll have no argument for it. So what's amazing is how you have to either react the way that Trump does all the time, which is be mad constantly in an effective way. in a way that almost makes people afraid of the level of anger you'll have if you wind up in a position in which you can share that anywhere else in the world. They're afraid of Trump. They're afraid of Trump and how he would wield his own influence in society against people for whatever it is they say about him or do about him. That's why they act this way. but then also taking the higher road all the time. If you take the higher road occasionally, you have to do it constantly, especially as a conservative, because people are desiring to attack you and desiring to find a way to make you seem like the bad guy. At least that's what I've experienced in my own life. I wonder if you have too. All right, we'll take a quick break. A lot coming up. Greg Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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Let's do a quick five on the Dana Show. DLash, DanaLashRadio, and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected to her. My name is Craig Collins. Radio Craig C. If you want to see me be sad about the Yankees being terrible this year, although now I won't tweet about them for several months. All right. Amazon's MGM will release the Melania Trump documentary. This was before the big news that she ushered in a deal with Vladimir Putin that will reunite children that are displaced in Ukraine because of the war there. This documentary had nothing to do with that. It was the lead up to Trump actually being inaugurated as the president of the United States after he was almost assassinated and killed. And I don't know why I said and killed assassinated means killed, but turned his head and miraculously survived. A unique story about a woman who is married to someone who, you know, miraculously is alive today. And yet a lot of people will hate the fact that it exists. MGM will be putting that out in January, I think for a couple days in theaters at least. We'll see how successful it is, we'll see how much people talk about it, but interesting nonetheless, and of course crapped on by mainstream media. Amel Gibson's Passion of the Christ has a sequel that's coming out. I am a Catholic, I am a Christian, of course. I think it's weird that the Passion of the Christ has a sequel, even if it's called The Resurrection of the Christ, and that story is interesting. That's a good story to tell in a movie theater somewhere. Just odd. This has been a long-sitting, gestating potential movie that eventually will actually happen. It's going to have an all-new cast. They're recasting all the roles. I guess Jim Caviezel didn't want to play Jesus again, or I don't know what happened there. But nonetheless, just odd. Hollywood makes a lot of sequels. The Passion of the Christ is one of those movies that you didn't necessarily think would have a sequel coming out about it. I'm saying this as respectfully as I can, again, because I'm a Catholic fan. I'm not making fun of it. I just think it's odd as a news story. All right. Other things out there. Area 51 crash mystery deepens as the FBI has joined investigations into tampering into the site. For anything you say that isn't happening that you don't want or that you don't like in the world of the FBI, like we didn't get enough information here or there. More alien stuff I'm always fine with. I don't think it's a distraction. People often say that Area 51 and alien stuff comes out when they want to distract you and push you away from some other story that you might pay attention to that is more valuable or more pressing in our society today. I can do both. I think that you can do both. I think we can all do both. I think when it comes to aliens and aliens specifically, I can pay attention to what the right hand is doing while also paying attention to what the left hand is doing. That is my promise to you. And that is my promise to anyone out there that we can all do this together. And then finally, one last quick story. Political bumper stickers are making people angrier in traffic instances. I guess road rage is going off the charts. If someone does something stupid in a vehicle and they have a giant Harris Walls bumper sticker, the odds of you getting mad go up. And the same is true for any of those idiots who see the Trump sticker on the back of your car. I just find that funny. I don't think that's as bad of a thing as people say it is. And if your car is plastered with political bumper stickers, I think you kind of understand that you might be making some people mad every single day all the time. And you don't seem to care if someone gets into a fit of additional road rage because you cut them off like a moron and you have a ton of stickers all over the back of your car. I think that's kind of an on-you thing, more so an on-them thing. Freedom of speech and everything, but you're asking for trouble, I believe, in that situation, so I'm not surprised it happens. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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the dana show podcast your fast funny and informative news companion for those always on the move subscribe on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcasts this is the dana show uh my name is craig collins filling in thrilled to be with you d lash dana lash radio and x on twitter uh great ways to stay connected to her and everything's going on uh in the world of dana and she will be back on monday let's do this a few things So first, Speaker Mike Johnson was furious that it's very likely that Democrats are trying to hold out in any sort of government shutdown until No Kings Day, which is a Antifa protest day, October 18th, in which a rally is supposed to happen in New York City or excuse me, in Washington, D.C., as well as New York City and other places where they protest no kings, which we don't have. By the way, we successfully already have no kings. You can all just go home. It's totally fine. But here's Mike Johnson saying that the belief is the Democrats are just waiting to keep the government shut down until that day because they like the optics of the government being shut down during no king's day, which is part of the reason that so many people hate politicians and hate the political system is this is easily believable. As a thing that Democrats could be doing just because they want to say out loud, even though it's their fault, that it's horrible that Trump is doing whatever they blame Trump for doing. Here we go.
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A very patient guy, but I have had it with these people. They're playing games with real people's lives. The theory we have right now, they have a hate America rally that's scheduled for October 18th on the National Mall. It's all the pro Hamas wing and the you know, the the Antifa people, they're all coming out. Some of the House Democrats are selling T-shirts for the event. And it's it's it's being told to us that they won't be able to reopen the government until after that rally because they can't face their rabid base. I mean, this is this is serious business hurting real people. Yeah. And I just I'm beyond words. I can't believe they're actually doing this.
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So two things I want to say in reaction to this. First, and I'm owning this, and you don't care. I don't know why I'm even holding my feet to the fire because no one who listens to shows like this where I'm just a fill-in guy even remembers probably what I say. But when Republicans threaten to shut the government down, my reaction is often, go ahead. I don't care. It's not going to impact my life all that much. It'll reopen in a certain amount of weeks after it shuts down. The only thing I ever care about Is military men and women getting a paycheck still? Which doesn't happen, even if the left will claim it does. You actually have to pass certain laws to make sure that the military individuals keep getting paid. It's ridiculous that the politicians get paid if they shut the government down. They don't actually get their checks stopped. But the military individuals who are serving our country do. That's insane. That's the only thing I ever really care about. Other than that, shut the government down, who cares? In all honesty, use it as a catalyst to fire a bunch of people we don't need and clean up the bureaucracy that is our federal government. And I'd be thrilled. So when that is the stance, if it's Republicans in charge, I keep the same stance when Democrats are in charge. Even as Mike Johnson says, the people are actually being hurt because how much they care about those people seems to ebb and flow with what side of the aisle they're on. But as I say that there are aspects to this. that I do think are interesting because of what you're selling more so than what you're doing. And what I mean by that is Democrats often sell that they're the party that cares more. I'm probably going to be a broken record about this today because so many stories feel like they lean into this narrative. Democrats tell you they're the good guys. They embolden their supporters to feel as though that they're good people and the people that they disagree with vehemently and maybe violently on the right are actually bad, horrible people. They're sexists and racists and everything else-ists, and they're the worst kind of individuals that exist in the bucket of deplorables, a version of a thing. And so they empower their side of the aisle to feel this way. And then when they play these political games and hurt the lives of people that they claim they care about, that hypocrisy does matter. Even if I don't say that to me, I'm as worried about the government being turned on tomorrow when it's turned off today. And that came out weird. I think I probably should have phrased that differently. But nonetheless, like it doesn't really impact my life. It probably won't impact your life that much unless you work for them directly. But nonetheless, like I think that that is interesting that what they're selling becomes so obviously untrue. And then you have this also, Mark Wayne Mullen putting up on social media that no King's protest day is something he was definitively told by Democrats is the plan all along. Just because, again, the optics are more important to them than doing the right thing and doing something for the people that they say they care about. They never care about you unless optically it benefits them. And then they'll tell you way too many times why they're doing something. And then get mad at you when you question if it's actually for your benefit or for their benefit, even though they they celebrated it so much because they were trying to get more people to support them. Democrats who tout DEI. It's my favorite example to use in a conversation like this because the DEI people that are out there could absolutely get what they want. Without causing all the different drama and confusion and questions and debate. If they just shut up about it. And I don't want them to do this. I think you should get a job based on your merit and skill. Not what you look like. Not whether you're a man or a woman. Whether you're black or white. None of that should matter. If you're the best for the job, hire you. But the DEI people could just hire the individuals that they think diversify their workplaces. They don't have to tell us a reason why they did it. They could just do it and they could just say it was the best person for the job. And even if you doubted it, it would be harder to have that discussion than if they're saying out loud, we're doing this for DEI reasons. Because we don't care about you and what you think matters. We only care about what you'll do to vote for us, like what will motivate you to punch our side of the aisle for their supporters. So that's why they do all this. So the no kings thing is another example of that. It's another version of we have an opportunity to do something that benefits us from an optic standpoint, we believe. So we're doing it in spite of anything we could do that might help actual people because we don't care about them anymore. It's like the fool me one shame on me thing, but 25 times deep fool me 100 times shame on you or me or everybody, because it's just crazy that this is the kind of thing we talk about. But I believe this because of how likely it is that Washington would do this. But here we go.
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Yeah, Chuckie Schumer, make sure that the people you say you're fighting for, which is a federal employee, goes without a paycheck so you will have talking points at this rally to talk to on Saturday. Chuckie Schumer! Good on you. I had a conversation with a Democrat colleague who's wanting to open the government back up, by the way. He said, do you know what's happening on the 18th of October? I was like, I don't have a clue. He said it's called No King's Day. That's a big protest against President Trump. He said, and our party isn't willing to open the government back up until after that because they're afraid that this large crowd that's supposed to be here in Washington, D.C., protesting President Trump will chastise them. They'll get thrown at the bus.
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That's an oversimplification, too. I think it is not just that they're afraid that the crazies on their side of the aisle will be mad at them. They actually want to lean in to those narratives. They're putting the guy, the crazy dude in New York, as I keep calling Mandami, Mamdani, they're putting him in a position of power. They want him to get elected because of all the things they think he represents that's good about their party to them, which is actually horrible and terrible and communism to the rest of us. All right, let's play this. This is audio of Tish James being quite upset that, you know, selective prosecution is a thing that's happening to her. No, that's not it. Actually, this is in February of 2020 when Tish James is very happy that she's selectively prosecuting a President Trump. That's what this is. This is her being a wild and ridiculous hypocrite, as they often are.
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You see, each and every day I wake up with a fire in my belly. I walk into my office. I sue the president and I go the hell home. That's what I do.
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Yeah, look at me. I do it every day. Find a new lawsuit. Sue President Trump. That's in February of 2020. She is now quite upset. that she might be in trouble for some fraudulent things that happened as far as her mortgage is concerned. Here's the other part of this that I think is amazing. CNN covered this story by saying that it's their belief that every American is actually committing the same crime, that if If Tish James is doing it, then everybody's doing it, which, by the way, is always their M.O. They want to put you directly in the crosshairs of whatever the thing is they're talking about so that you actually care more about it than if it's just them. Because if it is just them, they know a whole bunch of people do not care. But so they have to tell you that it's you, that you're in trouble, that you're the one who's going to be next. And if you're not next, then darn it. It's only because you voted them back into power in the first place. But here I want to play this. This is CNN saying that we're all committing this crime. The reason I find this fascinating is it sounds eerily similar, actually identical to what people in business communities were saying about Trump being held to some sort of weird standard in how he actually got better deals from banks because every business inflates their value and every bank's job it is to deflate your value when coming to an agreement on how much interest you pay on your loans. Every company does that. So if every person in America is committing mortgage fraud in the way in which they go about talking about their net worth, then every business was committing business fraud in the way they talked about their net worth. You can't have it both ways. You can't say that for some this is a good argument and for others it isn't. But CNN doesn't care.
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aside for the for a second what tish james and again we're still getting the details but if it's related to this mortgage issue i mean this is something that everyone in america or many people at least if you're lucky enough to be able to buy a house in america you deal with this right the federal government doesn't go after all of these people um for doing this um does
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I love every part of that because you could just play the part after she says, you know, home mortgages and American people and turn it into business thing. And that's exactly what conservatives were saying about going after Trump for any sort of fraudulent things they claimed his business was doing in getting sweet, sweet, delicious deals that they pay back. And they paid all of it back. So there was no victim in the Trump crime either. But I just think that's amazing. I think it's so incredible to say, because to me, I guess the last thing I'll say before I take a break, that's probably the thing that makes me the most angry when talking to anybody. And I try to bottle the anger as much as I can, because it's not going to get us further to any kind of agreement to just get mad at someone. But when they say all the things I would say about a different issue, but they say it about something that's uniquely Democratic. So they think in this one, you know, case, this defense makes sense. But then you repeat all of those ideas in another scenario. And they're like, well, no, in that one, I don't agree with it. And it's only because it's a Republican. They don't actually have. people who do this, a version of morality and ethics that are across the board. What they have is a very fluid version of, if it's a Republican, no. If it's a Democrat, yes. And I feel great about this across the board. It is insane to see that happen, though. And I kind of think that's the point. Oftentimes when you call some people, I have an uncle who's very convinced of this, by the way, that Trump is like a genius who does everything to out the terrible things that exist behind the closed doors, behind scenes, which you might also believe is true. This is one of those moments that feels like it actually is a proof of that because getting Tish James in this way and getting media to say what they're saying about it feels like that was the point all along. Just to demonstrate how the case against Trump was ridiculous and calling him a felon even now for Democrats is so stupid and so hypocritical that you can't do anything other than laugh and get, you know, silently mad about it, which is what I do. Or I guess vocally mad on a nationally syndicated radio show filling in for the very talented Dana Lash. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. The New York football Giants put a beat down on the Philadelphia Eagles last night, which was shocking to a whole lot of people. The Giants are not typically good at football and haven't been good for a very long time. 34-17 and the Eagles essentially playing like a football team that didn't want to win a game. More so than the Giants playing as great as it seemed like they might have played. Although Jackson Dart did look good. There were times where he kept plays alive that I was uniquely impressed by. There was a scare where he might have been hurt for a bit there. And also the Giants have a very good young running back. So those things are true. But anyway, that beatdown only hurt so much. And then even more pain, I think, was thrown to any Philly fan because of what happened between the Dodgers and the Phillies. That was something. And I have the audio of this, actually. So there's two outs, bottom of the 11th, bases loaded. force out at first base, ends the inning, you keep going. For some reason, if you're the Phillies and you get a comebacker to the pitcher, you decide to errand throw home that would have been late, that was horrible, like everything about the play was terrible, and the fact that you even have several teammates pointing and saying, throw to first base, and it doesn't go the way you want it to go, That probably hurts more than a middle of the NFL season loss for the Eagles from the Giants. Because I think, you know, fast forward several weeks and the Giants eventually will probably be like, I don't know, three or four and ten. And the Eagles will be doing much better that late into the season. And you'll totally forget about the fact that the Giants put the beat down on the Eagles. But here's the play that probably really hurt a lot of Philadelphia fans even more.
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No balls and a strike. Pahes breaks his bat, Kirk ring, gotta find it, throws to the plate, oh my goodness, he throws it away, and the Dodgers win, and they are moving on to the NLCS, and a most improbable finish. And your heart breaks for Ryan Kirkering.
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No, it doesn't. Your heart doesn't break for a major professional athlete who does a stupid thing in a stupid moment. It doesn't break for them. You think that the guy's a moron. If you're a Yankee fan, you're booing people like Anthony Volpe every chance you get. And Volpe's not making much money. But man, oh man, was he terrible. And I'm a Yankee fan, so I desire to talk about that, and I won't. But man, the Dodgers getting a gift like that to go ahead and go to the NLCS, in which they'll probably wind up winning and going to another World Series, is something to behold. Although the Cubs, interesting story. I'll say this quickly about the world of baseball. You may or may not be paying attention at this point. I think the only reason anyone winds up being a bandwagon Cubs fan is because they're always the lovable loser. They're always the team that shouldn't be winning and somehow is. If they were ever a dominant force in the world of baseball from beginning to end of the season, it felt like the unfair advantage team, people wouldn't like them as much. But people bandwagon all over Cubs because of how uniquely terrible they are. And this seems to be the case again. They don't do that for the Dodgers. So the Dodgers are not a team that will have that kind of support if that winds up being the matchup in the National League. And we will see because the Cubs get to play again. They did win yesterday, so they did force a game five. My New York Giants, my New York Yankees, excuse me, cratered like a bag of crap in their game four and lost to a much better team. And I know this isn't a sports show, but I'm also tempted to say that I think Brian Cashman is the problem. I think you've got to fire the guy. I think that even Derek Jeter said in a post-game thing that Aaron Boone is not actually calling the shots. You've got a lot of people in sports that aren't actually the leaders of their team, even if their role is manager or coach. You've got somebody else behind the scenes that's actually doing it. So maybe that's the universal way to discuss this topic. Maybe we can all get behind fire Brian Cashman, even if you don't care about baseball and you aren't a Yankee fan, because somewhere in your life, you've experienced someone who knows nothing telling you what to do all the time and screwing it all up. And that's what essentially people are saying is happening for the Yankees. Aaron Boone is the Joe Biden of leaders of that organization. He is the manager in name only. And people are telling him how to make decisions and he makes those decisions and they go poorly for all involved. Terrible, terrible baseball, at least to me and anybody that's a Phillies fan. Quick break. A lot more Craig Collins filling in on the Danish show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A whole lot of stuff out there to talk about. DLash, DanaLashRadio and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected. This is a Democratic politician doing terrible in a debate, which we've seen time and again. But this is uniquely awesome, especially considering one of the people she's trying to stand with. Seems to be a person who's unapologetically totally fine with political violence. But let's play some audio and then we'll break this down a little bit more. But once again, Democratic politicians swinging a mess in the world of back and forth debate. And even a moderator who was being called like a far right individual who definitely was not that going back and forth with these politicians. Just asking very basic, simple questions that the left leaning politician had no ability to answer.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Ms. Spanberger. I just I didn't hear an answer there on the endorsement issue. So I want to make sure. Will you continue to endorse Jay Jones to be the next attorney general of Virginia? And were you aware of these text messages before they released? You have 30 seconds.
SPEAKER 12 :
In fact, it appears that it was the those who released the text messages and held them for years. So the public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages. The day that they came out and I.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, look, I got to tell you something. And I got to be as honest as possible as I can in this and shoot the messenger if you want to. I'm a white guy about to be 40 at the end of this month. Literally on Halloween, I turned 40 years old. This white female politician, Spanberger, is running against a black female politician. The black female is the Republican. The white female is the Democrat. I might surprise some people with how that goes. But I love the attitude. that comes out of the opponent as she's saying, when did you know and what did you do? I want to play that part again because it's so good. And it's the kind of thing that you might attribute to, you know, a certain race, a certain attitude, a certain way of speaking, any of that stuff. The left would also celebrate if it was someone on their side of the aisle interjecting like this in this way. Of course, they said that this politician was rude. How dare she try to say and do things the way that if it's a Democrat who is of the same, you know, racial or I guess the same sex, they might celebrate the version of I don't understand what's going on here. They used to call Kamala Harris Mamala and they used to pretend as though her confusion with Donald Trump and her willingness to show it was a great expression of who she is and something to be celebrated. Wonder why it doesn't happen here. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
In fact, it appears that it was those who released the text messages and held them for years. So the public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages for many hours. I learned of these text messages the day that they came out, and I denounced them as soon as I learned of them. is murder and importantly um at this point as we move forward the voters now have this information information that was with withheld for them you're running presumably for political reasons uh but the voters now have the information and by the way the moderator is also a black woman uh so she's pushing back on winsome earl sayers and the things that she is saying i don't know if i guess the the race card won't be played by anybody uh because of the makeup of the individuals on the stage
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But I just I love this. And I think this is the kind of thing that if it were, you know, reversed parties the way we're expected. And it's a black female Democrat objecting to a white Republican woman or man in this way. I think that most media would be so thrilled with how this went down. They are not thrilled in how this went down because of how ridiculous it is.
SPEAKER 12 :
but the answer by the way is atrocious it is up to voters to make an individual choice based on this information
SPEAKER 11 :
Mr. Member, I understand what you're saying about the voters, but for you, do you still continue to endorse Jay Jones?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we we asked you about you. We want you to give us an opinion. We don't want you to explain how the political system works in its most basic sense, as if that's an answer to this question. Are you still throwing your support behind someone who seems to be very happy with and even celebrating political violence just weeks after Charlie Kirk is murdered?
SPEAKER 12 :
15 seconds. Go ahead. We are all running our individual races. I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant governor nominee. And it's up to every person to make their own decision. I am running my race to serve Virginia. What is your decision? What do you think? And that is what I intend to do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Ms. Spanberger. We just want to clarify, you know, what you're saying is that as of now, you still endorse Jay Jones as attorney general.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm saying as of now, it's up to every voter to make their own individual decision. I am running for governor. I am accountable for the words that I say.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love it so much. We just want one moment. You know what would be funny? It would be funny to force these politicians to have to behave like this with an obvious question. And I don't mean one about politics. I mean, like, make a video where politicians are standing in line at an ice cream store. And one after another being asked what flavor of ice cream they want. And they have to answer that question the same way they answer their political questions. So Abigail Spanberger would be saying, look, it's up to everyone else inside this ice cream shop. What ice cream flavor they want, what they're going to buy when it's their turn to purchase. And then someone would look at this insane human and be like, yeah, but what do you want? What flavor do you want? You know, it's it's not my choice. It's everybody else's choice. It's just insane. And the only way that they get away with this sort of stuff is because in politics, these rules have applied for forever. But you should you should apply whatever the version of back and forth question is to something that doesn't matter. Like pretend it's your wife asking you if you mowed the lawn, which is something that happens to me on occasion if the lawn has not been mowed. And it is definitely one of my jobs, and I'll never let her do it. As a man, I feel uniquely horrible if I look outside and see the missus mowing the lawn. I think that Nate Bargetzi makes a joke about that, and I don't know why that is, but it's been my job since I was a little kid. My mom made me lawn mow boy, and I've been lawn mow boy ever since. That also felt weird to say in those terms. But nonetheless, if that happened, and I had the unfortunate situation of having to deal with an Abigail Spanberger in that situation, the answer to is the lawn mowed would be like, well, other lawns in the area have been mowed based on the decision-making of the people inside those homes. And if they did or didn't mow the lawn, that was their decision. Yeah, but is your lawn mowed? You know what? I'm going to plead the fifth here. It's uniquely terrible and sort of amazing to watch. The left can't stand against other members of the left. They can't do it. They're terrified of doing it. The right does it all the time. All right. Another piece of audio I want to play. This is Kristi Noem talking about how they're doing everything they can at the Department of Homeland Security to keep things as running as smoothly as possible, I guess I should say, whether it's at the airport or anywhere, even as the government is shut down. This is part of a message that I think is playing at airports throughout the country.
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Hi, I'm Christine Ohm, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. It is TSA's top priority to make sure that you have the most pleasant and efficient airport experience as possible while we keep you safe. However, Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government, and because of this, many of our operations are impacted and most of our TSA employees are working without pay.
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we will continue to do all that we can to avoid delays that will impact your travel and our hope is that democrats will soon recognize the importance of opening the government i got to be honest if there's any way to make me madder at something it's to send a message to me at the airport when the airport isn't doing well if i'm on a delay if you know there's a line that's aggressively long if i go to the restroom and i see this message i'll be like yeah I care about this more now. As someone who often says that the government shutting down doesn't really impact my life, I don't really notice it. And when it's all turned back on, which eventually it will be, at the end of the day, most people who didn't work for the government will never have noticed. And I said before, military men and women should always be paid. The politicians' paychecks should stop. People in our military, their paychecks should never stop. It is broken that the system is the reverse of that, and not that. But as I say this, if there's ever a way to curry more favor, to make me more likely to be on your team and not whatever team I've been on before, even though I'm on your team from jump anyway, me personally, it's to do this, is to put a message in an airport where the airport is having a problem and say it's Democrats' fault that you're not on your plane right now and that things are delayed because that makes me very upset and very mad. And then you got Spanberger trying to answer the question by saying that each individual deals with a delay in whatever way they deal with it. It's amazing. That is uniquely terrible stuff. And I love when Democrats do bad in debates now, which happens more often. I know I'm just talking about this again before I take a break. I can't help it. I love when they do bad in debates now because their logic is so insanely flawed and so ridiculous that it can't stand up to basic questioning. You're seeing this again and again and again. I actually had a debate recently. with a young woman about why Harris lost, which is a terrible thing you should not do with someone on the left. And you know what they're going to say, sexism, racism, all that stuff played into it. But then you just start playing audio of the terrible things that Kamala Harris said and did in interviews where she seemed to fold and do as poorly as this politician is doing and just giving basic stances on stuff or trying to demonstrate how she's not as crazy far left as she is. And the person that's arguing with you just shuts up because there's nothing they can say to someone doing that poorly in what is, quote, a friendly interview. And the biggest reason that Harris didn't go on Joe Rogan and Donald Trump did is that Harris was terrified. of being challenged by someone who wouldn't be friendly with her. Not that Rogan's the arbiter of amazing journalism, but he absolutely would have crushed Kamala Harris, and that's why she lost the election. She was a terrible candidate. I know I'm rehashing something very old now, but I can't help it. Every time you see a new debate, you just think about that same thing. And of course, they'll say somehow it's sexism or racism or something, even if in Virginia, the person that might beat her is a black woman that might take the job from a white woman who's running for that office. So I don't know what you say that if the person who gets voted into the position of authority is a minority and a woman, is there a way that you still call it sexism or racism if they defeat someone who is not a minority and a woman? I don't know. That's a question you'll answer. I can't answer it. The left will explode as they try to figure it out. All right, quick break, a lot more. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right. It's time for a quick five on the Dana show. A D lash Dana lash radio on X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected to her. You should stay connected to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. too. Cause some interesting stuff has been said recently. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that a cause of autism is Tylenol that is used after a circumcision and the internet blew up about that. I have audio. We can go ahead and play the audio real quick on this thing.
SPEAKER 17 :
There's many, many other confirmation studies. There's two studies that show children who are circumcised early have double the rate of autism. It's highly likely because they're given Tylenol. We should be paying attention.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we should. That sounds uniquely terrifying. By the way, there are studies. You can look them up. You can find them. Actual published studies out there in the world. NIH published one of them that talk about the negative use of acetaminophen after a neonatal circumcision, something you should not give a baby and may have given a baby and may have caused harm, whatever that harm might be. But Robert F. Kennedy Jr. being accidentally anti-circumcision is not something I had on my bingo card. in uh 2025 and not something that i think that i'm as angry as so many other people are about it uh because you know uh that's a unique thing with the world of a man to talk about any sort of pain points there and what we can do to remove them i'm totally fine with that uh denmark is going to ban social media use uh for people under the age of 15 i don't like government bans but i do think that if you're a parent you probably shouldn't be letting your kid on social media uh Before a certain age and maybe 15 is appropriate for that. Denmark is saying that social media is stealing your childhood. It's causing you to care about a lot of things you shouldn't, to be afraid of a lot of things you shouldn't, to have so many issues in your life. And then, you know, things that you need to just not care about to be happier take a hold. And so I agree with that. And I think that as a parent, you probably should do what Denmark is doing. Nearly 70% of Americans are pessimistic about the economy, according to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, which said that people don't want to buy a house right now. I don't know if all these people felt as similarly as they do right now, say, a year or so ago, when they were voting Trump into office around this time or a little bit after this month, because... Yeah, it does make sense for anyone to say they're pessimistic about the cost of housing. But I don't know if people feel as negatively about the economy as a whole as Fannie Mac and Freddie Mac are saying they do. I wonder if maybe part of this is a political place story. Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt says something out loud that everybody already knew. AI can be hacked. Of course it can. Anything on the computer can be hacked. He said AI can be trained to kill people, to do other things. You can remove any of the guardrails that might have been created by whoever first, you know, puts this AI out into the world. And yeah, we all already thought that. We all already knew that. That's why I don't want AI driving all of our cars and doing so many other things in our society because it gives somebody who's a hacker or, you know, say a government who's got a whole bunch of hackers an opportunity to cause a unique amount of harm throughout our society. You can't hack me. I feel like that should be what I say when I walk around out there telling you that a human is needed in a bunch of different places in our society because you can't be hacked. And that's great. At least not, you know, by a computer. All right, quick break. A lot more. Greg Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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SPEAKER 04 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. President Trump brokered in a peace deal between Israel and Hamas, the terrorist organization that runs Gaza. I continue to call it that because that's what it is. But anyway, Trump brought this deal home, along with several people within his administration. Benjamin Netanyahu, among the many, saying that this doesn't happen without the United States. Of course, it'll be discredited. People won't care that Trump, yet again, is successful in brokering peace somewhere. The most interesting headline on this was one I saw in Reuters, which said, "'Trusting Trump. Why Hamas Has Gambled on Giving Up Gaza Hostages.'" Again, the terrorist organization that runs Gaza and its gamble to give up hostages. There are 20 people believed to still be alive, mostly young men who are likely members of the Israeli military. And there are 25 or so people that are sadly likely to be deceased. And their remains are supposed to be returned in the very near future from Hamas and the Gaza area to Israel. In exchange, Israel is going to release, I think, 2,000 or something hostages. people that are prisoners inside Israel, that are Gaza area Palestinian individuals. Whether or not these people actually are criminals or not, I don't know. Some of them, it sounds like, are pretty bad, convicted of things like murder, and yet they'll be released in exchange for the hostages. Something that you feel like could have happened a long time ago, but nonetheless finally happens because Trump is involved in actually brokering the deal. And it's just sort of amazing. That Reuters is like, I wonder if the terrorist group can actually trust the president. That's a unique level of hate to see, you know, the validity or the, you know, honesty of terrorists is more likely to be valuable than the honesty of our current commander in chief. Speaking of Trump, actually, and Melania Trump, the first lady, she made a big announcement about a deal she brokered with President Vladimir Putin. That's right. Melania Trump negotiated a deal to help reunite children with their families that have been displaced because of the war in Ukraine. This feels like a universally important thing that like right and left, all sides should support this and should praise this and applaud Melania Trump doing something as the first lady that they would love if they saw a Democrat do it. Of course, they won't do that. But here's Melania's announcement that she made herself.
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with each other for the benefit of all people involved in this war. My representative has been working directly with President Putin's team to ensure the safe reunification of children with their families between Russia and Ukraine. In fact, eight children have been rejoined with their families during the past 24 hours. Each child has lived in turmoil because of the war in Ukraine. Three were separated from their parents and displaced to the Russian Federation because of frontline fighting. The other five were separated from family members across borders because of the conflict, including one young girl who has now been reunited from Ukraine to Russia. I have learned a lot about this matter during the past three months. Russia has demonstrated a willingness to disclose objective and detailed information reflective for the current situation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, I got to be honest, reuniting kids with their families is something that the left is usually a big, big fan of. And in this case, since it's Melania, they'll find a way to hate it or at least ignore it. But it is crazy. Fox News had a unique reaction to it, though, calling Melania the most significant first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt, which is high praise for sure. Melania Trumpson now.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is huge for a first lady to be speaking with Vladimir Putin, who, by the way, under the Biden administration, could not do a deal with our president and somehow has managed to do this backdoor deal with the first lady of the United States.
SPEAKER 05 :
You'd have to go back to Eleanor Roosevelt to find a first lady who dealt with diplomacy and security issues like this. It's extraordinary. I think it goes. There's a connection between what we just heard with Melania Trump and what's happened in Gaza. But this administration takes every conventional wisdom and breaks it over its knee. The conventional wisdom in the Middle East was you can't make peace unless you first make a Palestinian state. So Donald Trump comes along in 220 and gets the Abraham Accords. The conventional wisdom in Gaza was first you have to have a ceasefire for a little while and you get some of the hostages back. He turns it around. No, we're going to get all the hostages back first.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're giving them to you right now. Although it still hasn't actually happened yet, it needs to happen soon. It's supposed to be a product of the beginning of the ceasefire, which has started to have the remaining hostages return. But nonetheless, I think this is interesting. And the fact that Melania is at the forefront of a deal with Vladimir Putin that reunites children with families, something that's easy for all of media to pray. You know what's funny about it? And I'll finish that sentence. Something that's easier for all of media to praise. They fail at that. the moment where they could at least convince you that they're not quite as biased as they obviously are a lot of the other times, when they have that softball version of a thing where, hey, why don't you just say, good job, Melania Trump, and then keep going bashing Donald Trump all you want, keep bashing the President of the United States, but just give a little attaboy to the First Lady for doing something that's universally good so you don't seem like you're so horribly one-sided and biased, and mainstream media fumbles that ball every time. They kind of act like the Philadelphia Eagles playing the Giants. That was mean. That was a shot I shouldn't have taken. But it just seems to be the kind of thing where you could easily get the win and you choose to once again fail. All right. That did seem overly mean. I am a Giants fan, so I apologize to Eagles fans. No, I don't. All right, another thing out there, Scott Jennings is reacting to the ridiculous narrative that Tish James is just like you and me and that the indictment that happened last night, the federal charges she's going to face for fraud and all kinds of things are a reflection of what every American would do in getting their own mortgage and that this is selective prosecution, et cetera, et cetera. And before I even play Jennings, let's remind you of who Tish James is She's a human being that celebrated her selective prosecution of President Trump. She said she woke up in the morning. She sued Trump. She went back to bed. That's how she got into a position of power as an attorney general in the first place. So she ran on selective prosecution and then seems to be upset when it's not actually happening to her. But people are claiming it's happening to her. Here we go.
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You see, each and every day I wake up with a fire in my belly. I walk into my office. I sue the president and I go the hell home. That's what I do.
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Look at me. I'm so great. I find some way to sue Trump. And that's what I do every single day. And that's why you put me in a position of power. And wait, what's happening to me now? I love that. Here's Scott Jennings saying how ridiculous all of this is and how, you know, she'll have her day in court, prove the things that are accused of her as being false, and maybe she'll actually get away with them. And then, you know, obviously very much not like Trump, also potentially have someone say that this is usually a misdemeanor. We're inflating it to a felony. You don't need to tell us why you think it's a felony, but just go ahead and tell us if Trump is guilty of it. That may not. actually happened to Tish James, which is a shame because you feel like not only should you have selective prosecution, you should also have the inflating of recharges to a ridiculous degree, which most legal people thought was insane when Alvin Bragg and others were doing it to Trump. But let's hear from Tish on this.
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If Democrats like Slotkin are going to come out today and whine about selective prosecutions over Tish James, her entire career is built on the selective prosecution of one man. Yes, Scotty. Now, I also believe what Elliott said. There's a process here. Everybody gets their day in court. Obviously, a grand jury saw enough evidence to bring charges. We don't know what they are, but a grand jury looked at this and says, OK, there's something here. She gets to go to court just like Comey, just like anyone else. But to me, it's just not going to fly to boo-hoo over selective prosecutions on this particular person who promised in her campaigns, who went after him on things, as Jonah said, that had no business, no business ever happening, if not but for the man's last name being Trump. I'm not going to... But how is that not a two wrongs make a right argument? I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying she gets her day in court. I'm saying a grand jury saw enough evidence to bring charges, and I'm saying she gets to go to court and tell her side of the story, and then we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love when the Democratic pushback to what Jennings is saying is, how does it not appear that two wrongs make a right? Well, the reason that it doesn't matter in that case is because you don't care. Because you'd rather have your wrong be the only wrong that occurred. And if something actually happens that hurts your side after you've punished the side of the aisle that you're so spitefully against, you want that part to go away. It's the COVID thing all over again. And I think people remember this. During coronavirus and all the shutdowns, the amount of shaming that happened for someone who didn't agree with the left on any of that crap. who thought maybe the vaccines were something you didn't need to take, et cetera, et cetera. You name the issue, shutdowns, masks, all of it. All of the data that's come out since, tons and tons of data, has demonstrated how those conspiracy theorists, those conservatives in your life were right about a bunch of that stuff. And you guys were wrong about a bunch of that stuff. And the Democratic response at the time is, why go ahead and adjudicate this all over again? Why run back through these issues just to find blame? Because you were saying people could die and that's fine with you. Kimmel made those jokes. Jimmy Kimmel, who said and did horrible things after Charlie Kirk died, was murdered, assassinated, and still has a job that he shouldn't have because he's a piece of crap. That's my own opinion of it, of Jimmy Kimmel. But anyway, he said that constantly. During COVID that if you're on the right, you don't want a vaccine. You don't get any medical treatment. You get to die, which was just insane and constant. And these are the same people who then say, well, we don't want to argue now that our side no longer has what we thought was a slam dunk argument. Now that we've been proven wrong, let's go ahead and not discuss this at all. Let's just let it go away. That's the pushing the goalpost part. That's the part where the Democrats do whatever they want, how often they want, in any way that they want. And then they hope when the time comes to wield the same power against them, that you choose not to do it. And if you choose to harm them the way they harm you, then they blame you for it, even though they started it, which they never want to remember in the first place. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Greg Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man on the Dana Show. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected to her. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Radio Craig C. If you want to follow me and what I occasionally say about the New York Yankees, that's totally fine. I get in on that too. Several different Florida Man stories. Some of them amazing. This one horrific, but also ridiculously Florida. A couple in Florida is facing charges after they left their 16-year-old son on the side of the road. They said they didn't want him anymore. At 16 years old, some parents might start to get frustrated with the young man, son especially, but I don't know, any teenager might be annoying. The right approach is not to leave them on the side of the road and try to drive away. That's not going to work out. Uniquely Florida about this story, they left him with a wad of cash and a bag of handguns. They're like, here you go, son. You're 16. You're an adult, according to us in Florida. So here's a wad of cash. And here's just a bag of an assortment of handguns. We don't know why you need so many. And in such a random thing, like not even in a box, man, like at least put them in a little safe or something. But now they just have them all in a bag and they're handing them to this guy. I have audio of Josh Taylor, who's the chief of staff for the North Port Police Department, talking about the ridiculousness of this story.
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The story was these people kicked him out of the car and gave him two bags. And once, through the course of that investigation, talking with him, we were able to figure out what was in those bags. There was the loaded weapons, and I believe there was a magazine as well. The report indicates that the child was handed these bags and said, you're the chosen one, good luck. So that's all.
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I gotta be honest, a part of me would be a little bit motivated if someone handed me a bag of handguns and said I was the chosen one. But that's probably the wrong thing to take from this. And I'm a gun guy. I'm definitely very happy with the guns that I have right now. Of course, I don't think you could fill in on this show and not be a pro-gun person because Dana is so prolifically awesome in her own discussion and opinion of guns in her history and understanding the very important value of the Second Amendment. But no, teenager, side of the road, bag of handguns, probably not a good move. Uniquely Florida, though. A Florida man robbed $7,000 worth of lottery scratch-off tickets from a convenience store. So he goes in, he demands the scratchers, he leaves. Now, two things he did were wrong. The first one is he didn't know how to play scratcher tickets the pro way, which you don't scratch any of them. You just find your local grocery store or something and you scan them. That way you don't have to do anything other than scan to see if you won. He didn't do that part. He actually played all $7,000 of these tickets Then he tried to bring the winning tickets back to the same convenience store that he stole them from. That's uniquely Florida. That's like, hey, bygones be bygones. Today's a new day. What I did yesterday doesn't count anymore. I'm here to, you know, take my sweet winnings from the stuff I stole from you the other day. That gets you arrested. That's usually not a good move. Another Florida man that made the news was naked and chasing Walmart workers inside a Walmart and in the parking lot of a Walmart. He was then found later in the wooded area near the Walmart, agitated and paranoid. Every part of that story 100% checks out in the world of Florida. First thing first, you show up at a Walmart and there's a naked guy. You probably think to yourself, man, there's a lot of other Walmarts. that I can go to. I don't know why I'm staying here. But if you're the employees, you're stuck dealing with it, calling the authorities. The naked dude is harassing people. I don't know if any of it was sexual in nature or if the naked thing is just an accident. That's always a confusion of mine. I always want to ask the criminal, and it's probably not the right way to go about it, but I can't help it. When nudity got into the equation for them, like the person who's arrested on the side of the road, traffic ticket, and then all of a sudden they're naked. When did they decide that they were taking their clothes off? Was it an in-the-moment thing? I was this a premeditated nakedness that came about from like, you know, planning. If I ever get pulled over, I know it'll make the situation go away. I'll just get taken. But that feels like a byproduct and a question because I don't think in my own life I will ever be, you know, naked accidentally. I'm pretty sure I won't ever be naked accidentally. And in a situation like this, where like when you're arrested, you kind of want them to ignore it. Like, and sir, you're naked. You're like, why does that matter? Why can't I be naked all the time? That's how these people seem to behave. And that is a problem. And then finally, one last Florida man story. A Florida guy stole a woman's purse. He found out that she had a one-month-old kitten inside the purse instead of any valuable stuff, which is just a weird thing to do. It's not a purse puppy. Dogs are better than cats, by the way, even if this kitten was probably adorable at one month. But you open up the purse, you've stolen the thing, and then you wind up, you have a brand new pet. That's a unique way for, say, adoption centers to try to get more of their pets adopted. Just put them in purses and leave them out on the side of the road and see if people say that doesn't sound right. Don't do that. Don't write your hate letters to me. Please, PETA, don't say anything to us. I'm kidding. But anyway, maybe it's a nice adoption thing. Put the puppy in the purse, hold the purse out and be like, look, you get a dog in a purse. And maybe that way we get more pets adopted. That's fine with me. And apparently a thing in Florida. All right. Well, sort of. Quick break, a lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. DLash, DanaLash, RadioNX on Twitter are great ways to stay connected to her and everything that she has going on in the world. And honestly, her and her team do a great job of anything on social media. So you should stay involved. Producer Steven and so many other people involved in helping make that awesome. um there is a big story out there and i do think it's interesting and dana has even tweeted about it so d lash a dana lash radio and x on twitter how to find out what she thinks about some of this before she gets back to the radio um but pete hegseth made a big announcement today uh that's Very confusing to a whole lot of people involving allowing Qatar to have a Air Force training base in the United States on U.S. soil in Idaho. Here is the announcement of that thing, which, again, is confusing a whole lot of people on both sides of the aisle.
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No one other than President Trump could have achieved the peace that we believe will be a lasting peace in Gaza. And Qatar played a substantial role from the beginning, working with our folks to ensure that came about. So I want to thank you for that historic peace. I look forward to joining the president as that gets done. uh it's already been delivered but as that's formally signed as well and i'm also proud that today we're announcing or signing a letter of acceptance to build a qatari emiri air force facility at the mountain home air base in idaho the location will be uh host a contingent of qatari f-15s and pilots to enhance our combined training increase lethality interoperability it's just another example of our partnership and i hope hope you know
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Yeah, I got to be honest. That makes no sense to me either. Dana did tweet out, I feel like if you sponsor Hamas, you shouldn't get a base in the U.S. What am I missing here? She is absolutely right about that. 100% right about that. Qatar was instrumental, I will say this, according to Israel and everyone else, along with the United States in ushering in the peace deal between Gaza and Israel and Hamas, essentially, more so than Gaza. So I think that there's something interesting about this being a fallout component likely to that kind of agreement and what Qatar got in the process of all of it. But yeah, this is the kind of thing that U.S. should not have have at all allowed to happen. Would we have unique capability to prevent it from being anything horrible? I think we would. We would have the capability if it's on U.S. soil and surrounded by U.S. military. The odds of Qatar doing something bad with a Air Force base they have here are hopefully low, but it's just surreal as a sentence. You know, in all honesty, it's a strange thing to say and think is happening. And a lot of people on both sides of the aisle are very confused by it. I wonder if that's what it is, though, if it's a level of arrogance and deserved arrogance. I'll say this. We deserve to be arrogant about our capabilities, capabilities as a military force in the world. You know, so much so that you might be able to say out loud, all right, you can build a base in our country and we'll still screw you up if you ever try to hurt any of us because of how capable we are and how much we would have insight into whatever it is you're saying and doing inside that facility inside our country. But it still feels like a thing you should never do. It feels like a bending of the knee that's just strange. And so I don't get it. And I think a lot of people don't get it. And I think that Dana specifically is quite right in saying that if you wind up on the wrong side of certain issues from the United States and begrudgingly eventually wind up somehow facilitating something that's supposed to help us, At the end of the day, the reward for you can't be this gigantic. It can't be this monumental. And you can't have the potential to use it for negative reasons, which I think that people who influence Qatar might hope it's capable of doing. The amount of individuals... or country leaders, or world leaders, whatever you want to call it, terrorist leaders of groups like Hamas that hope they have some avenue into that facility in the United States is through the roof. And so it's just interesting to open that Pandora's box ever so slightly and to believe in our capability of keeping it from being something that harms our country more. But yet that is something that I think If you were in charge of our military in this country, you might think you're literally incapable of being defeated even by a force that's on our soil of our own doing because of our capabilities as a force beyond that. So I don't know. I hate to say that this is a we'll see moment because it's not. It shouldn't have happened. I don't think it should happen. It feels like, you know, the kind of thing that we shouldn't surrender on. And yet I wonder if 10, 20, 30, 50 years, 100 years, 200 years from now, it has any impact whatsoever on our society or if we're fully capable of managing and controlling an organization that's not us having a facility like that within our country, which I think we probably are. I'm still not happy about it. All right. Another thing out there, Speaker Johnson. has said that he is furious that it's very likely the Democrats are holding out the government shutdown until no King's Day, which is October 18th in Antifa involved rally in D.C. and New York and other places. Here's part of what Mike Johnson said to I think this was Fox News earlier today about the likelihood that this is why Democrats are still refusing to open the government.
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A very patient guy, but I have had it with these people. They're playing games with real people's lives. The theory we have right now, they have a Hate America rally that's scheduled for October 18th on the National Mall. It's all the pro Hamas wing and the Antifa people, they're all coming out. Some of the House Democrats are selling t-shirts for the event. And it's being told to us that they won't be able to reopen the government until after that rally because they can't face their rabid base. I mean, this is serious business hurting real people. And I just, I'm beyond words. I can't believe they're actually doing this.
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Yeah, I can believe they're doing that. That's not remotely shocking to me at all, in all honesty, because Democrats always care more about optics than anything else. They don't care about who's helped or who's hurt. They only care about convincing you that they're the good guys and the other side's the bad guys at all costs, at all times, even if it makes them very much the bad guys in doing that. But nonetheless, I do think it's interesting, and I know that Mike Johnson is saying that, you know, you're toying with Americans' lives. This is something very often that the left will say if the right threatens to shut down the government. So it does fall on deaf ears to me to consider one side of the aisle suddenly more concerned than they appear to be when they're not in power and using this as a way to wield any sort of control of the government, even, you know, ever so slightly. And yet a part of me also knows that the Republican Party doesn't usually run on a platform of we're trying to fight the Nazis and the other side is the Nazis and all this other crap that they say all the time. By the way, Trump ushered in peace in Israel. Apparently Hitler is in charge of that. because they call him Hitler. I love the Babylon Bee and others who had headlines like that. Hitler responsible for peace in Israel is a unique headline. The Democrats seem to basically be saying themselves all the time if they are even paying attention to and not fully ignoring that story. But nonetheless, I just can't get over the fact that that what really strikes me as important here is that the people who vote on the left believe their side to be the good guys and the good guys are behaving in bad faith and bad again, as they always do, because they are, in fact, the bad guys. And now they're going to pretend as though they're just doing it for some other reason. Another thing out there, I thought this was interesting. And this is something I actually hope becomes a byproduct of the government shutting down. The funny thing about the right and fighting to have the government reopened is we'd also like to fire a whole lot of bureaucratic people that don't need their jobs. And so if that can be an end result of shutting down the government, working with skeleton crews and then being like, you know, we don't need so many people. I'm good with that. And Russ Voigt seems to also think that this is totally fine. Let's get some people fired, baby. Here we go.
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We tracked down exactly which agencies here on this Friday afternoon are now sending these notices of reduction in force, effectively layoffs, firings to their employees. And I just heard from a spokesperson over at the Health and Human Services Department that they are among those agencies, those departments that are going to be moving forward with agency rifts. I am told that here from the agency that it's going to be across multiple divisions and that under the Biden administration, that the department had become bloated. This is the spokesperson. HHS continues to close wasteful and duplicative entities, including those that are at odds with Trump administration's Make America Healthy Again agenda here. And so
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Yeah, that seems fine with me. To be totally honest, if we lose some bureaucratic positions that are, you know, just taking our money that don't need to exist, that part I think I'd consider a win. And I consider it a win no matter what I'm told or what else you say about it, because I would like to see us spend. way less money on the government in general anyway. And I know I'm not alone in feeling that way. So I just think that's kind of an interesting byproduct of all of this. And part of the thing that makes you think maybe this is why it's happening all along. Maybe the trap was set. The Democrats stepped into the trap and now we get to fire some people. That doesn't seem so bad. All right, we'll take a break. A lot coming up. I am still fairly dumbfounded at the idea that there will be an Air Force military base of some kind, a training facility for another country, a country that has close ties to terrorist groups here in the United States. And I know that the conspiracy theorists are saying it's because of a golf course. I imagine it's really more because of our unique belief in ourselves that can make you arrogant. at times, although I think that arrogance is justified, that arrogance is justified, and I think the odds of Qatar actually harming us by having a facility in our country are actually quite low because of the capability of our military. It doesn't mean I have to like it to think that it's something that may never actually have the worst case scenario play itself out. It just seems odd. It just seems like something that's a step too far, a willingness that might have been a condition of brokering peace between Israel and Hamas that the United States never should have done. And I know that I'm not alone. And a whole lot of people on both sides of the aisle are saying something very similar to that right now. I quick break a lot more Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right. It's time for a quick five on The Dana Show. DLash, DanaLashRadio, and X on Twitter. Great ways to stay connected to her even when she has a day off. She is tweeting some reaction to some things going on in the world. So stay connected with her right there at Radio Craig C. If for some reason you want to follow me as well. I love that people follow me. I'm nowhere near as prolific as her. But thank you anyone that supports the show and hears me on it that jumps in. All right. Some quick stories. Bob Ross paintings are going to be auctioned off in support of public TV stations that no longer have federal funding because they're ridiculously one side and bias. I love the fact that these public stations don't want to just sell advertising and make money the right way and have, you know, a programming that enough people actually pay attention to. So the advertising is value. Instead, you want to sell Bob Ross paintings. If anything would make me rethink my advertising budget in 2025 or 26, if I'm already planning on that one now, which many are, it would be watching a station I'm advertising on have to sell paintings by Bob Ross to make enough money to keep operating. That might make me think you don't have enough viewers for my, you know, ad to be valuable enough as is. So God forbid they try to do it that way and have engaging content that people pay attention to. Instead, they're going to crack open the vault and see what they have in storage that they can sell off for some amount of money. Speaking of like a weird money related story, though. There's another one out there in Canada. Marine Land is a theme park in Canada that says it needs emergency funding now. And apparently it has no Bob Ross paintings to sell. So it's very upset about that. It either needs that funding or it's going to euthanize 30 beluga whales. I'm not laughing because I think that's funny. I'm laughing because of the prospect of that as an either or scenario that this organization is putting out to the world. It sounds like a mob. It sounds like we're killing these 30 whales if you don't give us money now, a kind of a thing. It doesn't sound like the kind of thing that usually a theme park would go about saying or doing in a more measured way. It's you either give us funds immediately or we have to off 30 beluga whales that don't deserve it. And we're going to like send parts of them. down to the world, very mafia style, just so you know the bad thing you did. That feels like what's going on here. But Canada is actually saying that they're, you know, hard up for cash. At least this one amusement park is. And it's an either or scenario that you never thought you'd see coming by people that claim to be scientists and, you know, theme park operators and not necessarily members of the mob. Montana had a car crash, or I could actually call it a cow crash, that was unique and feels very Montana. 120 cows tipped over. They were inside a cattle hauler truck in Miles City on Sunday afternoon on I-94. It caused backups. It caused problems. Cows got everywhere, apparently. The cows survived, which is good. That's a good thing. But a lot of them got into the community, into the town. And here's my favorite part of when you know you're living in Montana and not, say, like in New York City. A bunch of cowboys got on their horses and corralled all the cows because they were called into action and capable of acting in a place like Montana without actually being then requested and called from, say, some neighboring community that's not inside their big city. They got it done, baby. And they got it done fast. The cows were removed quickly. That doesn't happen in some places. One final story, and I just found this funny. Ferrari's stock has tumbled after the big debut of its electric vehicle because surprise, surprise, no one wants an electric Ferrari. You do want a sweet, delicious, amazing sports car. You want it to sound and act like a sweet, delicious, amazing sports car. And you need gasoline, baby. For that to happen, you don't want fake sounds and dumb electricity. But the electric sports car that was finally unveiled by Ferrari that they said people have been long clamoring for apparently was overshadowed by the fact that their organization is doing terrible and their stock is tumbling. By 2030, it looks like the outlook for Ferrari would be even worse, which makes me sad. There were so many movies that focused on Ferrari recently, Ford versus Ferrari and whatnot, and Ferraris are just cool vehicles. You want the place to succeed, but you definitely don't need an electric one. All right, we'll take a break. After the break, I'll play you audio of a Democrat failing at a debate, because it happens all the time, next on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about. You would think that it's easy for a politician, Democrat or Republican, to distance themselves from somebody within their party who seems to think that violence politically is totally fine, is totally okay. That was not, in fact, the case during a debate yesterday in which a Democratic politician was held even so smallly, like so barely to the fire. Her feet were they dabbled in the fire and she failed incredibly to give a positive or valuable answer to this question or any answer whatsoever. to a question about Jay Jones and text message controversies that you may or may not know anything about. The long and short of that is Jay Jones essentially showing that he's totally fine with his political opposition being shot and killed or people on the other side of the aisle, party-wise, being killed for their political beliefs. That's totally fine with him. A controversy that's caused some issues. Abigail Spanberger really, really struggled and just straight up refused to answer this question asked of her. Here we go.
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Thank you, Ms. VanBurger. I just I didn't hear an answer there on the endorsement issue. So I want to just make sure. Will you continue to endorse Jay Jones to be the next attorney general of Virginia? And were you aware of these text messages before they released? You have 30 seconds.
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In fact, it appears that it was those who released the text messages and held them for years. So the public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages for many of us to do about. I learned of these text messages the day that they came out.
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Okay.
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Already, I feel like I need to paint the picture here for anyone who's unaware of this. I know this is a national show. If you're in Virginia, you're probably very aware of these politicians. If you're somewhere else, you might not be. But the other lady who is speaking, the political opposition, the Republican politician, is a black woman. The person who's being asked the question to begin with is a white woman. If a black mine, if a excuse me, minority woman defeats a white woman in a position, you know, in a race somewhere in the country, I don't know how the left will handle that because they want to call it sexism or racism. But the person who defeated the individuals they want to win would be subject to more of the things that they claim to be issues in our society. So it's hard to fathom how someone who is, again, a black woman beats a white woman and somehow race and or sex is a is a byproduct of the reason for the loss for the Democrats. But that's what they'll say. Somehow, some way they'll go there. But I just love the attitude to, by the way. I know it's a hallmark or a stereotype or whatever you want to call it of black women occasionally to be able to execute these types of questions in a way that maybe no one else can say them tone wise or whatnot. But you hear it there. And I think that if if it's the left and their party that's acting this way, they'd praise this. They said that the Republican was, you know, upsetting people and interrupting a lot and that Earl Sayers, excuse me, is someone who, you know, didn't behave professionally. But I feel like if she were, again, a Democratic politician, they'd love every part of this. And they'd call her Mamala 2.0, but let's continue.
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And I denounced them as soon as I learned of them. And importantly, at this point, as we move forward, the voters now have this information, information that was withheld for them, presumably for political reasons. But the voters now have the information and it is up to voters to make an individual choice based on this information.
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Can you hear the shaking in her voice? By the way, it's not because of the interruptions by the political opposition that's on the stage with her. It's the fact that she knows she's absolutely terribly avoiding this question. She's not doing it in a smart way, in a good way, in a way where it feels like she answered the question, but she didn't. She's absolutely struggling because she refuses to say the words that are evidently true. She does still endorse a political candidate who seems to be totally fine with murderers. That seems to be something that is absolutely okay. with jay jones and it's something that she should distance herself from but can't i want to play it again because i want you to hear the shaking in the voice when the best thing you can come up with is the voters get to vote now and even though you asked me a question about what i think the voters should do my answer is that they get to vote and they choose what they want to do and other than that i don't want to say anything i learned of that
SPEAKER 12 :
And importantly, at this point, as we move forward, the voters now have this information, information that was withheld for them, presumably for political reasons. But the voters now have the information, and it is up to voters to make an individual choice based on this information.
SPEAKER 11 :
Mr. Mayor, I understand what you're saying about the voters, but for you yourself, do you still continue to endorse Jay Jones?
SPEAKER 04 :
I asked you a question. You basically described the political process to me as a response to the question. Can you answer the question now?
SPEAKER 12 :
15 seconds, yes or no. We are all running our individual races. I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant governor nominee. And it's up to every person to make their own decision. I am running my race to serve Virginia, and that is what I intend to do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Ms. Spanberger. We just want to clarify, you know, what you're saying is that as of now, you still endorse Jay Jones as attorney general.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm saying as of now, it's up to every voter to make their own individual decision.
SPEAKER 04 :
Just try to envision like, because sometimes I have this with my wife, not this, not what you just heard, but the version of, hey, what do you want to have for dinner tonight? And the missus is like, whatever you want to have. But then there's definitely a right and a wrong answer. We all know this. We've seen the jokes on social media about this. Just consider this with Abigail Spanberger as a thing. Like, hey, what do you want to have tonight? Whatever you want. People everywhere throughout this country are going to be eating food this evening. All kinds of different food of different options. And that's food that they get to choose to eat based on whatever location they want to go to. Yeah, but what do you want? Yep, I definitely think that that's a great question. And the best way to answer it is that people choose to eat food based on what they... You just go crazy if you had to deal with this all the time. And it's just uniquely, uniquely horrible. For her part, Earl Sayers absolutely crushed her in another moment where it's just ridiculous to think that what's going on right now in so many different races, in so many different places, is anything other than pretending as though the American people are so incredibly stupid. that you can say and do whatever you want in any scenario, in any way, shape, or form, and they'll just keep voting for you regardless, even after Trump actually wins the popular vote and shows that substance of arguments does matter more than Democrats want it to, they continue to swing and miss on so many of these things. Here's another moment where I absolutely think Winsome Earl Sears did an incredible job of just crushing her opponent.
SPEAKER 10 :
If your little girl comes home and said she was forced to undress in a locker room with a biological boy, what would you say? Would you say baby?
SPEAKER 04 :
I love that the other politician doesn't even look her in the eye. She's like, I can't even answer that question because it does seem as though Abigail Spanberger did side with a trans sex abuser who wanted to change in, you know, women's rooms. That was a biological man, which is it's just crazy. that this is the kind of stuff they do because apparently they're terrified of their political side coming after them if they're not far enough left and woke enough. And actually, you know what? I'll play that audio again. Not the audio I just played, but something I played earlier in the show today. Because one more time I will demonstrate that yet another issue in which it seems as though The problem for many people is the No Kings protest, and not at all the fact that I think that many politicians would like to see the government open or not open or any of that crap. But No Kings Day, which is on October 18th, is a day that apparently Mark Wayne Mullen and others have been told Democrats refused to open the government before that day because if they do, the problem for them will be that the left will eat them alive, will be very upset about all the decisions that they've made, etc., etc., which is just crazy. And I want to play this audio. I'm trying to make sure to find it relatively quickly of Senator Mullen's because... It is the typical kind of thing that you'd see from the left to, you know, in any way, shape or form, say that what's happening right now, what's going on, what's occurring in this society, whether you think there's the good guys or bad guys and whatever side of the aisle you think they're on, they're really just doing it for whatever optical thing they want or they think is best to achieve. I don't think I can play the audio. I don't have it. So I'll try to find it for later and we'll take a break in just a second. But nonetheless, he's saying that because no King's Day is coming up, Democrats think of it as a political win for the government to still be closed on that day, a day when in D.C. and New York and other places they will protest having no king in this country and claiming that Trump is a king when he's not one. It's the funniest protest because I feel like they can all just go home when they show up and they're like, yeah, no kings here. And then you look at them and you'd be like, there are no kings here. Our political system is still working. There are still checks and balances. Trump still loses in courtrooms throughout the country on some of the issues that he'd like to do a certain way. It's still not going the way you want. That happens, and they're deaf ears to that. One last thing. I guess I'll throw this out there again, too. Qatar will be getting its own Air Force facility, its own training facility within the United States, which is a very odd thing. There's no positive way to spin this, even if I desire to do it, which I just desire to tell you the truth of what I think. I don't care about spinning anything. But I'll play this audio quickly of Hegseth earlier today saying that Qatar will get its own Air Force training facility in Idaho and how odd it is. And Dana actually tweeted about this too. DLash, DanaLashRadio, and Axe on Twitter, that if you stand with terrorists, that if you support terrorists, Your reward, if you do help us eventually broker peace between terrorists and Israel, isn't that you get your own military base inside the United States. That's that's a disproportionate reward for whatever level of help you actually gave us. I'm paraphrasing. She didn't say all that, but she's absolutely right about that. That feels wrong. This is insane. Let's play a little bit of this.
SPEAKER 26 :
We also value the close cooperation between Doha and Washington that led to the signing of the Gaza peace plan on October 8th. This historic achievement underscores what can be accomplished when our nations work together with courage and trust amongst other partners such as Egypt and Turkey. We further welcome today's signing of the letter of acceptance establishing a Qatari Emir Air Force Facility and Mountain Home Air Base in Idaho. These steps strengthen interoperability, enhance joint readiness, and advance our shared defense goals.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's weird. This is a weird announcement. It's a weird thing. Hegseth did echo it and say that it was something that was happening. And I don't say this in a way where I'm judgmental. I don't know why I need to clarify that for you, but I feel like I do. I think the arrogance of the capabilities of our military is a deserved feeling. The United States is uniquely good in that world. And so our belief that Qatar could have its own facility here in the United States and it would pose no actual risk to us probably is born from that level of arrogance, and it might actually be accurate. I do imagine that in the years to come, the odds of anything actually bad happening because of the amount of oversight we'll have over that facility is probably non-existent. This probably will not actually... threaten the safety of the American people, which seems like it deserves to be said. Nonetheless, it just feels wrong. It just feels like the kind of thing we shouldn't do, even if we have the capability to make it abundantly safe to have because we are who we are. It just still seems like the kind of thing we shouldn't be doing. And a whole lot of people are saying exactly that. They're very confused. about the announcement, the decision. I don't believe it's golf course connected, but I do believe it's the kind of thing that we just think, like, what's the risk? We're too powerful to be harmed by something like this, and there's no reason to even go about opening that Pandora's box. But all right, quick break. A little bit coming up in a lot of time. Well, a little bit and a little time left. Greg Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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SPEAKER 04 :
This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins, filling in for just a few more minutes. Dana is back on Monday. Thrilled to be with you on a Friday show. Lots of different things to talk about with very little time left. Let's do this first. The top trending Halloween costumes this year are mostly from a movie I haven't seen, the K-pop Demon Hunter thing that your kids probably love and you may or may not know anything about, depending on how old your children are, but several. All of the top five, in fact, actually are costumes from that list. There's other things in this list that I did not recognize at all, most of the things, which makes me feel old. This is the point where you're getting older, that you realize you know less and less about the stuff the young kids are liking. I know what a Labubu is. I don't like Labubus. I think they're weird and dumb, and I don't know why people like them. They're the latest Beanie Baby, and they're horribly unattractive. But the Labubu made the list, too. My favorite one on this list was Nightwing, which is the Robin character in Batman and Robin. After he grows up and stops being Robin, he becomes Nightwing. Apparently, that's an all-time high. I don't know why. I don't know what's going on in the world of DC, you know, comics and or superheroes and Nightwing specifically. He's this high on the list, but he's up there. My favorite, too, is when you look at a breakdown of certain states and the things that people are dressing up like there or even cities within those states. And you find Indianapolis in Indiana, Ricky Bobby, the Talladega Nights character is still in the top five and has been on the top five every year since. that you've been having Halloween for quite some time, which is great, as long as we've been keeping the track of this information, I guess. If you dive into parts of Texas, I also find some results uniquely interesting or humorous as far as that goes, too. Let's see if we can find Houston, Texas, which is actually where I'm broadcasting from. I'm broadcasting from the KSEV Studios in Houston, Texas. All of them are K-pop demon hunters. We have failed to do anything unique, anything interesting. Let's check out Dallas, which is where actually Dana typically broadcasts her show from. La Boo Boo is the only thing that seemed to throw off the top five coming in at number two there. But you can go on FrightGeist.com, which is sponsored by Google, and look up your specific city and see what the top Halloween trending costumes are there and see if you've even heard of them. Most of them probably not. Other things out there, people are sharing the strange rules their parents had growing up. No turning on the lights during a thunderstorm. No wearing clothing with faces on them was a weird one. We had to drink a huge glass of milk before we had anything else was one that's out there that I like because actually I had something similar to that growing up. We had one drink cup on the kitchen sink and the entire family shared it and it was only washed twice a week. This was the water cup. If you want water, you can't get your own water cup. You have to share this one. That's gross. That's weird. And then finally, my favorite one of the strange rules people had. No stepping on the bath mat with wet feet, even if the bath mat is designed to be stepped on with wet feet. Apparently someone was told no. to that whole situation. But what weird rules did you have? What weird things did you grow up with is a question you can probably answer for Dana on all of her social media pages and not explain it. Craig Collins filled in, told me to do this if you have to. All right, that's it. That's all for me. Dana's back on Monday. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
Hour 2 of Rush to Reason kicks off with John Rush, Andy Peth, and Richard Rush diving straight into breaking geopolitical news: China’s latest move to restrict rare earth mineral exports — and Donald Trump’s immediate response with 100% tariffs. From there, the trio pivots into their NFL picks segment, debating the Broncos’ rise, Bo Nix’s performance, the Eagles’ coaching woes, and which teams might actually contend this season.
The second half of the hour transitions into Movie Rental Hour, with Andy leading a rousing discussion on the most inspirational movies of all time. From Braveheart and 300 to Forrest Gump, Gladiator, and Schindler’s List, the hosts and callers trade classic speeches and memorable moments, mixing humor (Team America, Dodgeball) with gravitas (Darkest Hour, The Passion of the Christ). It’s an episode that blends sharp political commentary, football banter, and a nostalgic celebration of cinematic inspiration — classic Rush to Reason.
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SPEAKER 10 :
All right, Hour 2, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy, and Richard joining us now. Richard, are you with us?
SPEAKER 15 :
Know that I am.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, before we get rolling, I know we have NFL picks coming up, but for all of you that maybe didn't see the news today, China did some really stupid things in regards to their rare earth minerals and magnets and so on, and not just to the U.S., but around the world. And in turn, Richard, you sent me some articles on this. In turn, Trump just came back and said, okay, China, 100% tariffs.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, basically. And we'll see. Again, this has happened before, although everyone's kind of saying this is like what happened earlier this year. But it's a little bit different in the fact that, well, I guess China's kind of doing this for everyone. Now, what China's going to say is it's not a full tariff because it's not a full control. They're not blocking. Basically, they're making you get licenses. in order to export to you and companies. But obviously, that's kind of restricting in the whole point of the trade agreement that they've been working on.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I'll be curious. Richard, can you explain something to me, though? Why would China in any way, shape or form want to restrict selling some incredibly profitable items around the world? Well, because control, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because they can limit our access to everything from batteries to weapons manufacturing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yeah, I know that's how they can hurt America, but why do it to the whole world?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, because it's maybe under the guise of doing it. And to be honest, Andy, if China's not first, they're last in the words of Ricky Bobby.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. That's a good point. If China's not first, then why would they want anyone else to do that, you know? Okay. Fair enough. Good point. It'll be interesting to see how it works out. John, should we go football?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, go for it. Because I keep track of these, so you guys get real quick. Before you do. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
You guys didn't pick the Broncos to beat the Eagles. Richard did on purpose because that way they might actually win, which they did.
SPEAKER 16 :
They did.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, what about last night's game and the blowout that had happened with the Giants and the Eagles? Who picked that one, and what did you guys say?
SPEAKER 16 :
We don't pick Thursday games.
SPEAKER 10 :
You didn't do Thursday nights, so what was your thought of last night's game?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think the Eagles should fire their coach. No, I'm serious.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, they had some really bad mistakes last night coaching-wise.
SPEAKER 16 :
I believe that the Eagles won the Super Bowl last year based solely on talent. And I said that going in. Remember, guys, I said going into the Super Bowl last year, this is a poorly coached team that simply has a grotesque talent advantage over the Chiefs. But this is a terribly coached team.
SPEAKER 10 :
It showed last night.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now it's starting to really show itself. That's what I think. Richard, what do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Andy, it's rough right now for Philly. Although people are saying, well, does this take some of the luster off the Broncos? I don't think so. I think it was a little bit of a difference. The Broncos did beat Philly at home. Philly only has like three days to recover from that.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, yeah, they're not the same team last night.
SPEAKER 16 :
Richard, honestly, right now I believe there's a very good argument to make that the best team in the NFL is Denver. A very good argument to make there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's not get carried away, Andy. Let's not get carried away.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I'm not saying it's a good – I'm not locking it in stone. I'm not putting it on the tablets. But I'm just saying you can make a very strong argument for that because they have a very balanced offense, though inconsistent, but a very balanced offense and a tremendous defense with the best blanketing secondary in the league. I mean, they could very well be the best team in the NFL right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
We definitely have some aspects, Andy, that make me excited for what can be as we continue. But I will say, kind of before we get to picks, because we will get to the Broncos as part of our picks, which actually will be our very first pick, but I just think, Andy, Philly is, well, we talked about it a little bit last week, and actually, Dad, you and I talked about it on Monday with their receivers complaining and some things that are going on. That, yeah, if I was the Eagles or if I was their fans, Andy, I would be concerned because, well, Jalen Hurts, all of the criticism that they levied on him all last year that he sort of made up for in the playoffs. They've sort of turned to him, and you've turned away from your league's best rushing attack. And again, last night, Andy, you didn't run the ball that much, and you relied on Jalen Hurts.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 15 :
And look where that got you. Now, Andy, I'm also to say this. I actually think Bo Nix can be Jalen Hurts, which is, I think, both quarterbacks. can win with a good team around them, and I think that's the case. But to your point, Andy, you have coaching malpractice going on in Philadelphia right now. I disagree with you. Oh, go ahead. Sorry. Just win. Well, just win by running, right? Run the ball. You have a really great team. You have a great scheme, great defensive coordinator, all of the above, and I just don't think they're taking advantage of it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I disagree with one thing. You said Bo can be as good as Jalen. Honestly, I think Bo is better than Jalen. I think he's more inconsistent right now, but he can simply do more. I think Jalen's a very limited quarterback. I have always thought that. And he's just got a ridiculous amount of talent around him. But here's the big thing. The coach has lost the locker room in Philly. He's lost the locker room. They barely won some games they should have won big this year. They're falling apart. They're more talented than God. It's ridiculous. And they are not playing to their talent level at all, and there's no excuse. He shouldn't have won the Super Bowl last year. He did because his team was better than the Chiefs probably at 20 out of 22 positions on the field. It was ridiculous. It's not that way anymore. They're done, and they've got to fire this guy.
SPEAKER 15 :
The only thing I'll say to you, Andy, is you should love this, though, because for your Packers, this is fantastic. We're not a threat. I know what you're going to say and some of the nonsense you're going to spew, but folks, don't listen to him. He's just a hater because he's a fan of the Broncos. It feels good. Yeah, you're correct. But, Andy, you should love it because they were the cream of the crop. They've now lost their last two. They are reeling. And, Andy, I'm with you. I will say this. I think the Eagles front office with Howie Roseman, really talented. I think they find a lot of different players, and they've done a lot of really phenomenal things. However, Andy, I've always been skeptical of Sirianni, been skeptical of Jalen, been skeptical of some things that are going on. And, again, if it's me, I would just be a little bit nervous if I was these fans because, I don't know, Andy, this thing could unravel pretty quickly.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think it could, too. Well, tell you what, we're going to have to go fast through these games. Are you ready? Let's roll. Okay, let's blaze through them. Up first, of course, the Broncos. They are favored by 6.5 at the Jets. I would add 20 points to that spread.
SPEAKER 15 :
I appreciate Andy, and as much as I would love to do what I've done in the past, as much as I would love to do what I did last week to say that, oh, yeah, I'm going to pick the Jets. I just can't in good conscience do that. Now, I do think that this game is going to be closer because, again, Andy, I feel like all London games are weird. That's true. They just have a weird vibe. Now, I'm not saying the Jets are going to win. I just think this game is a little bit closer than most may think, but I think the Broncos will eventually win. take advantage and end up winning. And, Andy, last thing I'll say is this on Bo Nix there. He made a little bit of a believer out of me because I turned to my wife last week in the first half and said, man, Bo, you're just giving all your haters all the fuel they need. and he proved me wrong in the second half. He came around, made some really great throws. They ended up winning that game, and it was a phenomenal thing. But I'm with you, though. This should be the Broncos by a lot.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it should, and I'm going to make a prediction. At the end of this game, New York will ask London to keep the Jets. Just keep them there. Just take them. You can have them. We'll start a new team from scratch. They're a mess. Okay, let's whip through these. The Cardinals are at the Colts. Colts favored by six and a half. Are the Colts starting to take over their division?
SPEAKER 15 :
Real quick, Andy, New York doesn't deserve that. Let them have the lowly Jets, that awful studio. Yeah, they want Mom Donnie.
SPEAKER 16 :
They want Mom Donnie. Give them the Jets.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's what I'm saying. That works. If they want Mom Donnie, they have to keep the Jets. That's part of the package.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, yeah, Andy, the Cardinals, man, I mean, and by the way, I know Jonathan Gannon got fined. I don't know if that should have been the case. Don't be a dummy and drop the ball before you get to the goal line on a 70-some yard thing. It's not like he smacked the guy. I don't know, any different conversation. Colts are better than we thought they were, Andy. Do I think they're going to come back to reality at some point in time? Yes, because I think that Daniel Jones will come back a little bit. However, he's proven me wrong so far, so if you're a Colts fan, maybe you want me to keep predicting that. But yeah, Andy, I'm going to go with the Colts here at home. Again, I just think that they're a more complete team. Andy, Tyler Murray is a hot mess.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. Okay, next game, the Chargers favored by 3.5 over the Dolphins. Here's my question. Are the Chargers just too injured to contend anymore? Will Herbert be wasted for another year?
SPEAKER 15 :
Great career going down the drain, man. They're going to be wasted, Andy. They are because you've lost both of your tackles. Now, I know Joe Alt's supposed to come back this year, Andy. But not only that, you've lost your stud running back. Herbae can only do so much and make up for so much, Andy. But my goodness, I semi-feel for the Chargers, semi. But in this case, Andy, I do think the Dolphins are woeful enough, especially without Tyreek Hill. So I'm going to go with the Chargers here on the road.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I got the Chargers too. Next game, the Patriots are favored by 3.5, only 3.5 over the Saints. After upsetting the Bills, shouldn't New England be favored by more?
SPEAKER 15 :
They should be, Andy, but I will say they're a young team, and when you come off a big game like that, and then you play a team like New Orleans, sometimes it's a little bit hard to kind of maintain your, I guess, your focus, for lack of better words, right? So while I actually think the Patriots will get them here, I think this will be a tight game and may come down to it, and it'll make the young Patriots team sort of –
SPEAKER 16 :
uh kind of realize they're not there yet okay we'll both take the patsies next game browns are on the road at steelers steelers favored by six and a half how did 90 year old aaron rogers become the steelers best player they're not even that good of a team they don't have a good defense they don't have much of a running game uh this 90 year old who can't even walk barely has them winning some games
SPEAKER 15 :
Andy, better yet, how do the Steelers get so lucky where they get 90-year-old Rodgers who can actually still play, and then they fall into Joe Burrow's done for the season. Lamar and the Ravens look like a stink. They are worse than a dumpster fire. And then you've got Dylan Gabriel and the Browns and maybe Shador and... I mean, luck into everything, Andy. Everyone in Pittsburgh is going to be doing ayahuasca before too long. I know! I guess that seems to be the remedy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now, we both, but Richard, Richard, Richard, Richard, we both know, though, they're going to be a first-round exit in the playoffs. But they're looking good in the division.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, absolutely, Andy, but they're still going to win their division. Tomlin's going to be this, which, again, I think he's a really good coach, but It's just frustrating, Andy, because the Steelers have been at least steady. You know, they haven't won a Super Bowl in a while, but they've at least been steady for years and years and years. But, yeah, it doesn't change here, Andy. Shador is now the backup, by the way, so something could be had later on in the season, but I'm going to go with the Steelers here.
SPEAKER 16 :
I hope we see Shador. Yeah, I'll take the Steelers too. Okay, let's pick it up here. Here we go. Cowboys favored by three and a half over the Panthers. Do you trust either of these teams? Who shows up?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I don't, Andy. It's which of these teams decides. The only thing I trust in this is the Cowboys offense. I trust that they're going to score some points. But what do I trust that the Panthers are going to? Is it the team from last week or is it the team from the first several weeks of the season? A different matchup, Andy. Obviously one that you don't see very often for a variety of reasons. I'm going to go with the Cowboys here, Andy, on the road, just because as much as I like Bryce Young, I've been talking him off all year, kind of talked him up at the end of last season. I just don't know if I have any faith that he continues and maintains.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. We've agreed on every one, and we can't do that the whole thing. So I am going to say right out, the next game I think is the best one of the week, and no matter who you pick, I'm picking the other one. We have to disagree on one of these. Okay, because I see some more coming up we're going to agree on. Seahawks favored by one and a half at the Jaguars. These are two teams on the cusp of showing they're for real who succeeds.
SPEAKER 15 :
Man, Andy, there's another one coming up I think is the best game.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, you mean Niners-Buccaneers?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, actually, see, we are disagreeing, Andy. It's a good week. It means it's normal. I'm going to go with Lions-Chief. I actually think that has the potential to be the best game of the week.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, you know, you're probably right. You're probably right. That's a good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
But, yeah, Andy, I just keep going back and forth. Again, we talked about with the Colts. Who's going to show up, right? Is this real Sam Darnold? Is Sam Donald the guy we've seen? I mean, I think that the Seahawks are the steady team. And then, man, Andy, if Chris Jones actually makes an effort on that play, maybe the Jaguars aren't even in this position. Right. But that's a conversation for the Chiefs game. I know we'll diverse. Andy, I don't like the Seahawks. I've never liked the Seahawks. Something about them, whatever it might be. I'm going to go with the upstart Jaguars just because I want to see Sunshine continue to win.
SPEAKER 16 :
Then I'll go with the Seahawks. Why not? Okay, next game's easy. The Rams favored by 7.5 over the Ravens. Should we add 10 to that spread?
SPEAKER 15 :
They look terrible, don't they, Andy?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, gosh. Awful. Let's just take the Rams and move on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, they should, Andy. I mean, again, they are at West Coast, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. So it could be a little bit interesting there. But, man, as much as I want my last-named individual to play,
SPEAKER 16 :
You're cutting out, Richard. We're losing you. Oh, sorry. Now you're back.
SPEAKER 14 :
Rams.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, Rams. Next game, here's one. The Titans are at the Raiders. Raiders favored by three and a half. How does Las Vegas handle actually being a favorite for once? And does Ashton Gentry finally get a hole just once to run through?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't think the Raiders will handle it well. And I think that, unfortunately, for the Titans, or I should say for Gentee, the Titans, one thing they do well defensively is stop the run. They don't do anything else well, but they stop the run really, really well. And so, yeah, as far as they go, I think that they will. Actually, Andy, you know what? I'm going to say this. I wasn't going to take this originally. I was going to take the Raiders. I think the Titans coming off that big win, comeback win against the Cardinals, I'm going to go with the Titans here.
SPEAKER 16 :
They could very well win. I'm going to take the Raiders because we need another different one. Okay, here we go. The Bengals can't beat anyone on earth. They get to play my Packers who are awful. Green Bay has totally collapsed. How big must they win to start saving their season? I don't know. They've got to figure out how to beat Joe Flacco because they couldn't beat him earlier in the year. Green Bay's done. They're not a contender. I mean, let's face facts. Well, they're not. And the reason is very simple. They don't have an offensive line, period. at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
Fair enough, Andy. I have more faith in the Packers. I just think inevitably they tend to figure it out as the season gets on. I think LaFleur is a really good coach. I think loves a pretty good quarterback, and I think your defense will continue to carry you guys. as needed, although, you know, Parsons got to get on track, and I know you and I can debate that one. Yeah, Andy Bengals are a hot mess, although they have, again, 100-year-old Joe Flacco that's going to come in and hopefully do something good for them. But I just don't think it's enough this week, Andy. And I like – well, real quick, Andy, I know we have to run here shortly after this. Is this the best weapon that Joe Flacco has ever had in his career? Yes, easily. And we'll see what he does with them, but I don't think it'll be this week. I'm going to go with the Packers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I'll take the Packers. Next game, very good game. 49ers are at the Buccaneers. Is this the weakest meeting of 4-1 teams ever?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't know about weakest, Andy. You feel for the 49ers because with Purdy, you know, I think that – which is coming to say something because I think that he's a little bit better than Mack, although not much. I think this has won a heck of a coaching job by Kyle Shanahan. I mean, again, I know everyone's kind of ready to write him off. But, man, I mean, he went in last week, beat the Rams. They did have a long week to prepare for this Buccaneers team. But I think the Buccaneers are a more complete team. And again, short weeks are hard, plus divisional games on Thursday night are hard. I'm going to go with the Buccaneers, Andy, only because I believe it's at home. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 16 :
It is.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I'm going to go with the Buccaneers. Although, again, it wouldn't put past me if Shanahan goes to 5-1. It wouldn't surprise me at all.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'll take the Bucs, too. Okay, here we go. The Lions are at the Chiefs. Chiefs favored by 2.5. Why are the Chiefs favored? I know the Lions, because I thought the Lions had pretty much settled into being the best team in the NFC. Then they lost their number one corner for the year. So that's going to hurt them a lot. Is that enough for the Chiefs to win this game?
SPEAKER 15 :
Andy, the Chiefs, again, I know we're going to talk. They just don't seem like the same team. They don't look like the same team as they have been the past few years. They're done. And I know we've been saying, and it's nothing even against Mahomes because Mahomes is literally carrying that team, dragging them, Andy, to the point that they are right now. Kelsey does not look the same. They have no weapons. Their offensive line is a little bit of a mess. Mahomes is scrambling, making the crazy plays that he does in their defense. Again, they look like a tired team, Andy. They look like a team that has played late into the postseason three of the past four years.
SPEAKER 16 :
Richard, let me tell you, when the Broncos play the Chiefs, the Broncos will be more talented than the Chiefs at about as many positions as the Eagles were in the Super Bowl. It is going to be a terrible mismatch. I just don't think the Chiefs are very good anymore.
SPEAKER 15 :
I hope you're right, Andy. And I'm actually going to go against what I did the past few weeks because I'm going to pick the Lions. As much as I do want the Chiefs to pick them and then be happy if they lose or whatever it is, I just think the Lions are a better team. And the Chiefs, Andy, I just... Until they prove me otherwise and until some of these other players come along with them, I just don't trust them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. I would like to pick the other team so we could differ, but no. I'm not going to pick the Chiefs against the Lions. Forget it. I'll take the Lions. Two more games. The Bills are favored by four and a half over the Falcons. After last week's upset loss, are the Bills ready for a physical team like Atlanta?
SPEAKER 15 :
Andy, I think that this is their get-right game because I just don't think Atlanta's very good. I think that Pennix is a little bit overrated. No, they're not that good. And I think that the Bills are going to be mad. They're going to be angry, right? They're going to want to go make a statement to say that this isn't the team that you guys thought we were. So, yeah, Andy, I'm going to go with the Bills. I know it's on the road here. But, yeah, I think this is the Josh Allen get right – or not Josh Allen. The Josh Allen shows that he's still Superman game.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. I'll take the Bills, too. Last game is a weird game. The Bears, who are very talented and they're surging, they're going against commanders who just got Jaden Daniels back. Who wins this one?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, this is weird. I think we're going to go in the same direction just because with Jaden Daniels back and the commanders and some of that thing. But the Bears are weird. They're just a weird team. That's probably the best way to describe them. I have no confidence in them. I have no confidence in Caleb Williams. But they're that team, Andy, where this team could be 35-33 with a last-second field goal propelling the commanders over the top. But I'm going to go with the commanders. They're at home here. I just think that they're a better team.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I'll take Washington, too. And, John, we're done.
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SPEAKER 10 :
All right, we are back. Buckle up. Inspirational movies, Andy. Take it away.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, and just for those who want to call in or text in, understand. It's going to be different for everybody. Everybody has different things that inspire them. Right. All right, well, here's a speech that always inspired me. Here we go. Braveheart.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right?
SPEAKER 20 :
Against that? No! We will run! And we will live! Aye. Fight and you may die. Run and you'll live. Aye. at least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!
SPEAKER 16 :
Now, I would have been the guy in the back yelling no and running away. Oh, jeez. But that's just me. How about you, Richard? Yes, William. Yes, I will.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. Great movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Richard, you're up. William Wallace, so good. All right, Andy, and the theme of war, because us men are motivated by violence and killing of things. And then also, Andy, I was motivated to look like your body double in this movie, which is 300.
SPEAKER 1 :
300.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. My wife wishes. If I could be a Spartan.
SPEAKER 16 :
I love 300. It's so good. Yes. Okay, John, you're up. Field of Dreams. Oh, yeah. Build it and they will come. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. I'm getting through some ones that I do a lot because they're just so easy. Here we go. Miracle.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, good one. You were meant to be here tonight.
SPEAKER 13 :
This is your time.
SPEAKER 12 :
Their time is done. It's over. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team the Soviets have. Screw them. This is your time. Absolutely. Now go out there and take it.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's what Trump is saying right now.
SPEAKER 12 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 16 :
Screw them. Kurt Russell. I mean, how can anyone not like Kurt Russell? Oh, he's good. I know. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, we need some more of that these days. We need an Olympic moment to unite us and put us back together again, you know? I agree. All right, one that does inspire me, Andy, for different reasons. You know, it could be a successful man and best, you know, go do all the different things. But just, you know, obviously a great acting performance, which is Forrest Gump.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that's on my list here someplace. That's a great movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 16 :
And what a character that he created. I mean, way to go, Tom Hanks.
SPEAKER 10 :
In a movie where it's not super fast-paced, but it's fast enough to keep things moving along, right? Yep. Is that a good way to say it?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And also, I was just marveling at his acting, honestly, throughout all of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, you're up. Yeah. Okay. This one I watched the other day, and I know I've mentioned it here recently, but Seabiscuit.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was a fun movie. Great movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 16 :
Isn't that Tobey Maguire?
SPEAKER 10 :
uh yeah and then who's the lady who's actually the star i can't remember her name but i'll i'll find it in a second but she's really the main star of the movie and you know the inspiration is she kept going when everybody else said just sell it all off just sell the farm off be done with this exactly but she kept it going oh yeah i agree okay uh got another speech here here we go simple one gladiator my name is maximus decimus meridius
SPEAKER 21 :
Commander of the armies of the North. General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance in this life or the next.
SPEAKER 16 :
That was a very inspirational movie for me. Just watching what he went through and how he came back and stuck with it. For me, it really was. What about you, Richard?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, it was phenomenal. It was right there next to 300, Andy, but I was just, you don't get a chance to mention it all the time.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you modeled, I mean, they actually hired Russell Crowe after seeing pictures of you.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're correct, Andy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, you're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
If I was only not, you know, like 10 years old. Yeah. But, yeah, so, all right, Andy. You're a bulky 10-year-old. You are correct. So let's see here, Andy. Okay, Davin, you're giving me ideas here. Again, we don't get to mention this movie very often. Hidalgo.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I enjoyed that one. Yeah, that's a good movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, good movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, great movie. John? Let's do the bucket list.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I like that. Well, I like both actors.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's a great movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And not the ending you... If you've never seen it, it's not the ending you expect.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it is not.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's really good as far as that goes. So, John and Cheyenne, you're up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, guys. Hey, Andy, Richard. No love at all for the Giants last night. Oh, lots of love.
SPEAKER 16 :
Really quick here. How do you feel about your QB now, huh? Jackson? Better. Yeah?
SPEAKER 14 :
If you look at Game 5 and Game 6... And the five turnovers cost them the game to the Saints. They did five turnovers, which all wound up giving the Saints points. So they didn't turn the ball over last night. That was a good thing. But we'll see next Sunday, right? 2 o'clock, I think? You are correct. By the Broncos.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I don't think they're up to that, but okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
You never know. You know what? If they stay competitive through the whole game, With what I thought this season would be, I'd be happy. That's good. Well, what movies do you got? Oh, gosh. How about two? I have two. And neither of mine. First one is Pride of the Yankees.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
How about the speech at the end of that? I mean, it's fantastic. True story, too. And then the other one is the opening speech from Patton. If you can't get motivated and listen to that, I don't know what's going to get you motivated. Guys, have a great weekend.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, John, you do the same. Appreciate you very much. Okay, Andy, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, George C. Scott.
SPEAKER 10 :
Boy, he did a great job.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, I know I've played it before, but I love it, so I'm going to do it again. Boys in the Boat. Here we go.
SPEAKER 23 :
But they didn't understand who we were.
SPEAKER 16 :
The show was in a spot.
SPEAKER 07 :
Best fellas, they're connected. Sweat and pain.
SPEAKER 12 :
What it's worth, I'm proud of you boys. Inspiring. You missed the part where I told him not to tip over. Roll for your country. Roll for each other.
SPEAKER 26 :
For all the people who never believed in you. As one. As one.
SPEAKER 16 :
I keep telling people to watch the movie. I'm not saying it's great, but I think it's very good. I really enjoyed Boys in the Book.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
I feel like, obviously, we have a scene here with some of these, which is some war and whatever, but we were soldiers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I wish I had Mel's speech from that queued up, but I do not. Oh, so good. Oh, so good. John?
SPEAKER 15 :
And Sam Elliott's in there too, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. This one's interesting because it's a weird movie, but once you get into it, you kind of keep getting into it, and it's big fish, and it's weird because the dad tells all these outlandish stories that the kid doesn't think are real, but then at the end, they are.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty cool. I like that.
SPEAKER 10 :
And they connect at the end because there wasn't a great relationship there because the kid always thought dad's just exaggerating every single time he tells a story, but he wasn't.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good one, John. Okay, the next one. I always admire movies about people who overcome physical limitations. And this next guy, he was very, very short, and yet he rose to great power. Here we go.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm the smartest, most clever, most physically fit. But nobody else seems to be rising.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, this is inspiring, all right.
SPEAKER 19 :
It really is. Yeah, yeah, sure. I change the world, maybe they'll notice me. I'm so lonely. I'll just be lonely. Lonely. Yeah, a little lonely. A little lonely.
SPEAKER 16 :
So bad. Richard, I did that for you, actually.
SPEAKER 10 :
It was an inspirational movie, though.
SPEAKER 16 :
I had to work in Team America. Team America is very inspirational.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're right, Andy. It is.
SPEAKER 16 :
It makes me patriotic.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's so wrong, it's inspirational.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, don't you agree? It's inspirational something, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. Thank you. You're up, sir.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's see here. Cool Runnings.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. Good old, good inspirational story. That's a fun movie, too. I enjoy it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, no, I'd buy it. Good one, fun? Yeah, that one's good. Yeah, yeah, good one. Let's see. I'm trying to pick something we don't always talk about. Sure. And this one, only because it's related to the movie that you actually reviewed today, only it's a much better movie. Soul Surfer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Much better movie than the one you reviewed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, it is. And by the way, I think it's made by some of the same people.
SPEAKER 10 :
But way better.
SPEAKER 16 :
Way better, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Just a way better movie. Joe, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I almost forgot. The inspiring ad by John Belushi in Animal House where he starts talking about when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the Germans. How they're supposed to fight back against the university.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, it was right after that that I went in. I saw that. I went in and enlisted. Oh, did you? Yeah. Yeah, it inspired me.
SPEAKER 11 :
Go ahead. No, you got my list of the other ones, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Yeah, we got a bunch.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, guys, that's all.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. No, Joe, thanks. Appreciate it. Lendi, let's do another round. Go ahead. You got it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, here's one that you wouldn't think of. It's a couple years ago, a woman who was looking for lost King Richard III and digging him up, and her story was very, very inspirational. Here we go, the lost king.
SPEAKER 03 :
I believe this is a very important historical site. This is the equivalent of someone with a homemade rocket saying they're going to reach the moon.
SPEAKER 19 :
You can't stop now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Have faith in your research. Have faith in yourself.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm worried I won't find you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Don't let them push you around. Stay strong.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm here today to tell you a story about a person who was judged unfairly in life and never given the opportunity to show their true potential. You don't happen to know where you are, do you? Might help.
SPEAKER 16 :
I was upset that Sally Hawkins did not win Best Actress for that. I wanted her to win it. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
One you may not think of, Andy, but it's good and, again, makes you... I'm not saying you want to just watch it over a nice bucket of popcorn. You're a jerk. I am Sam.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sean Penn. Dakota fading. Really good. Good job.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that was probably a guy that I don't like, but one of his best performances.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Am I right in that, Andy?
SPEAKER 16 :
He was great.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, this one, and I haven't mentioned this movie for a long time, but it is super inspirational, and I'm saying it just because I know we have enough Jew haters out there that I'm going to go ahead and play this or say this movie just for them, Schindler's List. There you go. Why not?
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree. I agree.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I meant what I just said, by the way, because there's a lot of you listening that are that to fit that description, and shame on you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, how about a guy who fought against the greatest Jew hater of all time, Winston Churchill, in Darkest Hour.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good one, Andy.
SPEAKER 29 :
We shall fight in France. We shall fight on the seas and oceans. We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields and in the streets. We shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender.
SPEAKER 16 :
The amazing thing for me, and I didn't know this because my wife knows history much better than I do. When I was watching it, I couldn't believe how much his story paralleled Trump's. It was incredible.
SPEAKER 10 :
They hated him.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, my gosh. I mean, all the forces he faced within their government were just like the deep state here. It was unbelievable. Richard, you were up. Oh, yes, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. So in a similar timeframe, and I know, Andy, it's one of your most favorite movies, I would say, which is Pearl Harbor. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Inspirational. That inspired me right out the door. Yes. Yes. You're a bad person, Andy. You don't love America. Apparently not. John, you're up. The King's Speech. Oh, very good. Very good. That was very inspirational.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm surprised you don't have a clip from that one.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't. Well, I can only do so many.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I know. I know. I get it. That's all right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. I obviously love a great underdog story, so here we go. Dodgeball.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, jeez. That's great. Go ahead. Make your jokes, Mr. Jokey. Jokemaker. Let me hit you with some knowledge. Mr. Jokemaker. You should quit now and save yourself the embarrassment of losing with these losers in Las Vegas, Le Fleur.
SPEAKER 18 :
Alliteration aside, I think I'll take my chances in the tournament. Yeah, you will take your chances. I know. I just said that. I know you just said that. OK, I'm not sure where you're going with this. Well, I'm not sure where you're going with this. That's what I just said. That's what I'm saying to you. All right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Touche. Touche. Ben Stiller was perfect for that, by the way.
SPEAKER 16 :
Ben Stiller! And that was a totally different role from anything he had ever done.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's hilarious.
SPEAKER 16 :
I just thought it was great. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the most inspirational movie of all time and one of the best soundtracks, which is Rocky. Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. I agree. I can't believe you. I can't believe you haven't mentioned it yet.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yo.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's on my list, but no, I had not.
SPEAKER 10 :
How about, we've got to take a break right after this, Shawshank Redemption.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, go with that. Great. All right, let's do this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, inspirational because you can break out of prison.
SPEAKER 10 :
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Live and local. Back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Andy, go ahead. Inspirational movies. That's our movie rental hour topic. Go for it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Here's a great speech that was not made by the star of the movie, Mr. Holland's Opus.
SPEAKER 22 :
Rumor had it he was always working on this symphony of his, and this was going to make him famous, rich, probably both. But Mr. Holland isn't rich, and he isn't famous, at least not outside of our little town. So it might be easy for him to think himself a failure, and he would be wrong, because I think he's achieved a success far beyond riches and fame. Look around you. There is not a life in this room that you have not touched. And each one of us is a better person because of you. We are your symphony, Mr. Holland. We are the melodies and the notes of your opus. And we are the music of your life.
SPEAKER 16 :
Very touching movie. Long movie. Really good. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, it's a very similar movie, Andy, just very inspiring. So if you set your mind to something, you can do it no matter what age, which is Billy Madison.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah, absolutely. That turned my life around. It should.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
I went back to first grade because of it. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Let's do, again, I'm trying to pick ones that we don't always talk about. Moneyball.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, Moneyball.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a good one. Reinventing something.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, I have a clip. Don't have time. The Holdovers. Trust me, very inspirational.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Okay, Richard, go. A Beautiful Mind. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Russell Crowe. Russell Crowe. Absolutely. Go ahead. Imitation Game.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, okay. Pay It Forward.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, that's a good one, too.
SPEAKER 16 :
Great acting, by the way. Great acting. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's see here. Andy... 127 hours, so in case you need to saw your arm off.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, no thanks.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't watch that movie. You see, I'm way too impatient. I would have sawed my arm off in the first hour.
SPEAKER 10 :
Just got it over with. Go ahead, John. I know we say this one a lot, but it's such a great movie, Peanut Butter Falcon.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yes, absolutely. You know what? I get called a Jew that I like Jews too much, too, so life is beautiful. There you go. Richard, you're up. see here andy october sky oh yes jill and hall i have a great clip there we don't have time go ahead john okay uh and you said pay it forward right so i get that one off of here uh let's do a man called auto by the way that's a great movie yeah tom hanks yep uh passion of the christ gotta put that in yeah richard go oh thanks andy for that one the green mile another tom hankster oh yeah yeah absolutely john
SPEAKER 10 :
How about Hoosiers?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yes. Richard, I'm surprised that you remember the Titans. Andy, we use it all the time.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know, but it's inspirational.
SPEAKER 16 :
How could you forget the Titans, especially with Denzel?
SPEAKER 15 :
I never forget them, Andy. They're always in my heart. You're up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Million Dollar Baby. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Good one. John? Secret Life of Walter Mitty. Oh, nicely done. Nicely done. I can only imagine. Got to have that one. Richard, go. Geez, no kidding, Andy. Twelve Years a Slave. Excellent. Excellent.
SPEAKER 10 :
Patch Adams.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. I believe you can make any movie inspirational just by putting Morgan Freeman in it. Glory.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good one.
SPEAKER 16 :
Go ahead, Richard. Fair enough. And or Samuel L. Jackson, Andy, and Coach Carter. That's a good one. Excellent. Excellent. Go, John. Catch me if you can. Excellent. The 15, no, the 10. The 10 commandments. Go ahead. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 1 :
15.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, we could do the 15 too.
SPEAKER 16 :
I've played that so much. The pursuit of happiness.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, good one. Excellent. Go ahead. Hitting figures.
SPEAKER 16 :
Here's one. The intouchables. Trust me.
SPEAKER 10 :
Intouchables, not untouchables.
SPEAKER 16 :
Very, very, very good. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Let's see here. The impossible. Nice. Go ahead, John. We Are Marshall.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, how about Young Woman and the Sea?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, that was a great movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Richard, you're up. Saving Private Ryan.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Excellent. John? Chariots of Fire. Okay, cartoon, up. Oh, good one, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Very good, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, same cartoon, not a lot of human interaction here. WALL-E.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I love that movie. WALL-E.
SPEAKER 16 :
It inspires us to be fat.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly. No, not to be fat. I'm working on it, Richard. John, go. Let's do awakenings. Okay. No, that's it. We've got to take a break. That's it. We're done. Richard, I'll let you go. We've got to take a break. I'll let you run off into the weekend. Have a good one. All right. Next, Roof Savers of Colorado. Make sure your roof is all dialed in as we head down this stretch into fall and winter. You can rejuvenate your roof, therefore adding a lot of life to it, saving money at the same time. 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 10 :
All right, we are back. Andy, roll a few more off at us. We've got about 40 seconds left.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, here we go. We've got office spaces, actually. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy. Number 24, the Norwegians against the Nazis. Stand by me, U571, lean on me, Dead Poets Society, and here's a cartoon onward.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, Sully, the founder, American underdog, McFarland in the blindside.
SPEAKER 16 :
Excellent. How about U571? Oh, good one. Gandhi, The Miracle Worker, Ben-Hur.
SPEAKER 10 :
The Theory of Everything and Unbroken.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. Driving Miss Daisy, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Believe It or Not, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Hidden Figures.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. I'll get a couple more in here, then you can do it. Into the Wild, Hotel Rwanda.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Ordinary Angels, Babe, Invincible, The Greatest Game Ever Played, Good Will Hunting, and let's go with The Blind Side.
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I'm a rich guy
Join us on Sekulow as we delve into the unfolding legal challenges facing New York Attorney General Letitia James, including potential prison time and fines. We also explore her remarkable transformation from a politician promising to sue Donald Trump, to facing her own indictment on charges of bank fraud. What are the implications of this legal battle on her career and political landscape at large? Tune in to discover the depth of this story that goes far beyond the headlines.
SPEAKER 12 :
Breaking news today on Sekulow as New York Attorney General Letitia James faces 60 years in prison.
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SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, welcome to Sekulow. This is Jordan Sekulow. As you can see yet again, not in the studio, back in a home office, but we have important news to discuss today. Yesterday afternoon, you may have seen, may have heard, but maybe you don't exactly know how to describe it to your friends of what happened with New York Attorney General Letitia James, who was indicted by a grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia on two different criminal charges that would combine, if she was found guilty on both, she could be serving 60 years in prison and over $2 million in fines. That's if convicted on both. One is a fraud committed on a financial institution, another with a banking institution, and this has to do with how she purchased a second piece of real estate. And of course, it's different if you're going to, and you get different mortgage rates, different interest rates, even different down payments. If you plan on living there full-time, or making that your primary home at least, or as like a rental investment kind of property. And so we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars ultimately. I think in this case it's about $150,000, somewhere in that range, where she, again, checked the box that she would be living in Norfolk, even though she was a New York politician in Norfolk, Virginia. And then we ultimately— knew that she was being investigated on a 2023 transaction also in Norfolk. And during that investigation, they found a 2020 transaction where she had taken that similar step. Remember, this is also something they're looking at with Senator Adam Schiff, another one of those checking the box on what is your primary home and then ultimately going to rental. Now, I want to remind you, this is the New York Attorney General who on the campaign trail, I don't even know, I think we have time to play it right now for you, just to get you in the right mindset of Letitia James. She campaigned on suing Donald Trump, on getting, put that in quotes, Donald Trump. She didn't campaign on, I will be a great attorney general for all the people of New York and all of the responsibilities I would have as president. their attorney general, and all the responsibilities that do come. We work with a lot of state attorney generals. It's a lot of responsibility to say on your campaign trail, really vote for me so you can get someone who you disagree with politically, who's done so much in the city of New York to help the city. When it needed revitalization, when hotel needed to be redone, Donald Trump was there. And yet New York decided through its elected political officers We don't want him to feel like this is his home anymore. And she campaigned on that. I mean, she made it very clear. Let's play it for everybody. This is Letitia James running for attorney general because I want to contrast it in the second segment. We have more time with her statement yesterday after she was indicted. Very interesting. But take a listen. This is Letitia James when she was running for office.
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That man in the White House. who can't go a day without threatening our fundamental rights. Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump and his abuses. We need to follow his money. We need to find out where he's laundered money. We need to find out whether or not he's engaged in conspiracy. It's important that everyone understand that the days of Donald Trump are coming to an end.
SPEAKER 04 :
to going into the office of Attorney General every day, suing him, defending your rights, and then going home.
SPEAKER 12 :
Again, folks, I just want to remind you, that is Letitia James, the candidate. Will you sue Donald Trump? This is before she's Attorney General, before any investigation. If I win, we're going to sue him a lot. She is declaring that she is going to get the President of the United States, Donald Trump, before she is even elected to the Office of Attorney General. But we've got more. You've got more to learn about this because her response yesterday, when you compare her tough talk then of basically, elect me and we'll get Donald Trump, she's not so happy when the judicial system finds out she may have committed a crime. We'll be right back. Share it with your friends and family. Hey, welcome back to Sekulow. This is Jordan Sekulow. Again, if you're just joining, and I encourage you especially to share the last segment of the broadcast, this segment of the broadcast. We'll make sure, too, we have it clipped out like we did yesterday so you can share this with your friends and family and understand what's going on when you hear the New York Attorney General Letitia James and many of her allies saying this is some kind of illegitimate crime. uh prosecution interesting because i guess it's done by the illegitimate president as in her words calling donald trump an illegitimate president that she promised to sue before she was even elected attorney general of the state of new york she did all that on camera so if you're watching you i want to play that again for folks but then i'll be playing her statement yesterday because it shows the hypocrisy of the attorney general and of the left in And the Trump, I mean, it truly is that Trump derangement syndrome. As if Donald Trump needed more investigations to find out if there was any criminal activity or wrongdoing done by him or the Trump organization. I mean, by the time Letitia James got around, Mueller was through, impeachments were going on. A second impeachment was then going on, and yet she was going to be the one to get Donald Trump. Mar-a-Lago ends up getting raided. And what happens? Victory after victory, ultimately vindication for President Trump. Even when she got a guilty verdict, she really lost it on appeal because her and the judge allowing this giant penalty. And we can explain that for you in a minute on what she actually did go after Donald Trump for, because it's not what you're going to hear about in these soundbites. So take a listen. This is, again, if you just heard it, I want to make sure for people joining, they know who Letitia James is as the politician Letitia James before she was the attorney general Letitia James. Take a listen and watch.
SPEAKER 05 :
I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake. I believe that the president of these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses. That man in the White House. who can't go a day without threatening our fundamental rights. Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump and his abuses. We need to follow his money. We need to find out where he's laundered money. We need to find out whether or not he's engaged in conspiracy. It's important that everyone understand that the days of Donald Trump are coming to an end.
SPEAKER 04 :
going into the office of Attorney General every day, suing him, defending your rights, and then going home.
SPEAKER 12 :
He's illegitimate. He is a fraud. He's committed fraud, conspiracy. Now, ultimately, before I play you what Letitia James and how she reacted to her indictment, we'll go through that in just a minute. What did Letitia James get a conviction on with Donald Trump that eventually the penalty was zeroed out and they said, you've got to go back. This is not going to work. Then he was elected president. So that case is on hold. So the New York attorney general, did she go after him for any conspiracy charges? No. Did she go after him for any kind of criminal activity? Not exactly. It was a civil fine. An insane civil fine, so insane that it was overturned in New York State Court on appeal. So you can imagine New York State Court's not necessarily real friendly to conservatives or someone like President Trump, but certainly they can look at penalties and say, you know what, if we start doing this to people based off this kind of bizarre... case, civil action, by the way, not criminal, civil. And what was the charge in the $500 million penalty? You remember that? It was that they overvalued their real estate to get loans. Now, it's interesting, if you know anything about real estate, you know that at one day, you could be valued, your real estate could be valued, you know, at... 10 times what it is in just a year. And we see those fallouts. You see it in your own communities and neighborhoods. Areas get very... People start spending crazy amounts of money. Then there's nowhere else to buy, so there's not anything on the table. People go other places. The economy takes a hit. So at any moment you're trying to value your entire commercial holdings or even your private holdings, there is, again... You really don't know until the day you decide you're going to sell it. You only have an estimate based off the current market. Well, she didn't like the estimate that the Trump organization put forward to some of these banks to get loans. Now, did any of the banks complain? Did they say, you know what? They said that they were worth too much. We gave them this money and they didn't have anything else. They couldn't pay it back. No, all of the loans failed. were paid back on time or early. So there are no issues with actual banks. This is just the state of New York saying they didn't want, as Attorney General James at the head, they didn't want him to get those loan terms because they don't believe his property is valued at that much. Remember, this is that judge in the case that thought that Mar-a-Lago was worth like a few million dollars or something like that instead of the, it's almost priceless, but people don't know if it could go up to hundreds of millions of dollars, even a billion dollars, if the market's right. Now, if the market was to crash in the Palm Beach area, it's still going to be worth more than $10 or $20 million when you're talking about that size of a property. But again, Letitia James, real tough talker. Then she's being investigated on real estate. Did she commit fraud? That was the question. And they were looking at 2023 deals. And then they saw a 2020 purchase in Norfolk where she marked that it would be, kind of confusingly for New York Attorney General, her primary residence. Now, that doesn't mean it has to be the only property you own, but to say it's your primary residence means that you get more favorable loan terms, lower down payments, lower interest rates. So it's very different than if you're buying a property. And many people out there know what I'm talking about, but those of you who may not be in that business, some people do it, you know, it's kind of a side job. If you're not an investor like that, again, you might not know that. But that's how that works. And so... Was Norfolk going to be a primary home? Of course they investigated. No, it was being rented out. Sometimes rented out to family, sometimes rented out to others, and it goes back to 2020. So the Department of Justice convenes a grand jury in Eastern Virginia. Now, is that the most conservative place in the world? Absolutely not. That's where the bureaucracy lives outside Washington, D.C. And she was indicted on two counts. Criminal counts, by the way. She went after Donald Trump on civil counts. She was indicted by a grand jury on criminal actions, two of them. But first, I want you to listen to this other Letitia James, now that she's been indicted. Certainly not the tough talk of, I'm just going to sue him. I'm going to be a pain. He's fraud. He is an illegitimate president. So elect me as your attorney general. So I spend all my time on one guy for the entire state of New York. And that case ends up, and even the financial fine, getting overturned. The case is now on hold. And it's a civil case, not a criminal case like the one being brought against Letitia James and what she is alleged to have done. So take a listen after the indictment was announced.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I did my job as the New York State Attorney General. These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost. The president's actions are a grave violation of our constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties. His decision to fire a United States attorney who refused to bring charges against me and replace them with someone who is blindly loyal not to the law but to the president is antithetical to the bedrock principles of our country.
SPEAKER 12 :
Remember, This is the state attorney general when she was campaigning, and we just played it for you minutes ago, saying that when she got elected, she would sue Donald Trump. She didn't know what for, but she would because he's a fraud and he's an illegitimate president. And ultimately, she came forward with a civil lawsuit. So you saw a very different Letitia James there. We will, again, keep you updated on this. I wanted to go through the legal issues. Again, what was she indicted by the grand jury on? Just to make it clear for everybody, I want you to know the facts. I'm going to read it straightforward. One count of bank fraud, one count of making a false statement to a financial institution. If convicted of both of those counts and is found guilty, could face up to 60 years in prison, 30 years on each count, and $2 million in fines. So we've updated you on Letitia and James. You know where that stands. Israel, Hamas, Gaza Strip, the world, and the Middle East. The ceasefire has gone into effect, which means the 72-hour clock for the hostages to be released by Hamas is now ticking. And so far, Israel is doing its steps that it has to do under the agreement. in the ceasefire, so it's slowly starting to get pulled out of the IDF, pulling out of the Gaza Strip as an international force, which is really a regional force primarily made up of militaries from Arab nations, which is even better, I think, than having the IDF there because of the cultural similarities and also this idea that it's all Israel dealing with the problem. If it wasn't Israel there, there wouldn't be these issues. We'll see what this international group may face. but if it does move forward by monday we should see those hostages released so what do we need to do well of course we've got aclj jerusalem um our office there we've represented some of these families of hostages we represent one who is uh the two twin brothers israel believes are alive they believe there's 20 hostages that are alive And so pray for them, pray that those families are reunited and pray for those who are going to be getting a body, not a live person. Support our work.
SPEAKER 13 :
Welcome back to Steculo. We are going to take your calls and comments on this because we had a lot of people calling in. Do you want to give an update on the Quiet Skies situation?
SPEAKER 12 :
We had our team, obviously, you know, we not only Tulsi Gabbard worked with us here before. Again, her job is DNI. And of course, we have Rick Grinnell, who was the former DNI. But we also represented her. as she was working at ACLJ with us as part of the time period when she was out of elected office and really kind of explaining to people her full move out of the Democrat Party, why she felt like she had no place left and kind of actually didn't just feel like she needed to be independent, but felt like the Republican Party was her new home.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it was two steps. She went independent, released the book, and then said, you know what?
SPEAKER 12 :
And then, of course, while that happens, she travels a lot. She's fairly high profile, doing a lot of speaking and events. And she's noticing she keeps getting that designation on her boarding pass. I've gotten it before. My wife has gotten it before. It's supposed to be random. Random. And again, to get it over and over again, to have agents on the plane, and it was getting kind of personal too, like going through her personal belongings in front of people. So you would go through security, and then oftentimes she would have to do it again at the gate, and sometimes they would take her to a back room. But again, this is just, it's personally, you feel like, listen, I didn't do anything wrong, so nothing's going to actually happen to me, but I'm being actively spied on. And then we find out three more Republican members of Congress only republican this was happening to also so you have the government using a power that is supposed to protect us from terrorists to surveil and kind of i think kind of i mean make life tougher just like you know kind of show them hey you're we're the ones in charge using power in the worst way because of people's politics. And again, when the government ever faces any moves like this over politics, Logan, I mean, that's the worst of the federal government. And so what I love about the hearing and the ACLJ's work on this, and let me thank our donors again, because these are tough, complicated cases, especially we took it on in the administration that was in charge. And Rand Paul said, Senator Paul said, this was only uncovered because of Tulsi. And we uncovered it with her right here on this broadcast. And now that we uncover it, we fought back and represented her.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. We actually have a bite from earlier this year. So this is from January this year of Tulsi Gabbard speaking about this, speaking about specifically the Quiet Skies program. When was this and where was this? Just so I know, so I can give people information. This was during her confirmation hearing. Okay, so let's take a listen to Tulsi Gabbard.
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Biden, the FBI abused its power for political reasons to try to surveil Catholics who attend traditional Latin mass, labeling them as quote unquote radical traditionalist Catholics. Personally, just 24 hours after I criticized Kamala Harris and her nomination, I was placed on a secret domestic terror watch list called Quiet Skies. Sadly, there are more examples. The bottom line is this. This must end.
SPEAKER 13 :
Remember, this is what we were living through. I mean, I think it became very normal for all of us. And maybe you're very quick to forget. You're very quick to move on. It's why, you know, we've always had to say the only thing difference is like when we start talking about the FBI now or the DNI and those kind of things. I have to reframe my mind to not immediately think of corruption and it's like, what are we talking about? Because so much in so many years, I mean, really, even during the first Trump presidency, we were dealing with a lot of it's just the beginning of draining the swamp.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. I mean, so much of what, when you talk to Rick Grinnell, I mean, he was basically brought in as D&I after Ambassador to Germany to say, you know what, we've got to kick this off because even the first people put in place were not tough enough to fight the bureaucracy. What was already built in, yeah. And so it started with Rick and then now Tulsi, someone who has seen The abuse of this is is in charge. So they have a massive job of not only the main job of DNI, which is to keep us safe and to make sure our intelligence agencies are working together to keep us safe from terrorism, protect Americans, protect American troops. and using it in the most effective way. It's also about not letting people use this for unconstitutional and illegal ways because of politics or because of views that you have. And so the fact that it was not just Tulsi, which we assumed it would not be, but because she was brave enough to come and speak out about it, we now know three other people, they said, wait, this was happening to me too. And again, that doesn't mean that tomorrow if you fly and this is on your... No, it does happen. Randomly to people. But if after every flight, and if you start noting that there's air marshals sitting next to you or behind you, yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Go to our website. Go to aclj.org slash help. Especially if you're someone who's very active on social.
SPEAKER 12 :
That helps people. Like Tulsi, it helps the people inside the Trump administration. There's thousands upon thousands of people here with this kind of power. So they want to route out the bad guys, the bad operators. Sometimes they're able to do that on their own. But again, it always helps if you have people come and say, this is happening to me. And this is who's doing it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. We're looking right now, if you're watching any of the news, they're showing live shots of the floor right now. I just want to say, tell me those people look like they're panicking and it's the end of the world. No, you got people giggling and laughing in the corner. All of your bureaucrats and your senators and congresspeople are all... Don't feel like this is the end of the world the way they make it feel. It's uncomfortable. It's not great. But you can see the seriousness on there. Look at their faces. Their faces tell me it's not, you know, is there anything they're playing cards with you? They're not playing cards with themselves. Let's go ahead and take another phone call about this. Let's do the government shutdown. We can talk more about Tulsi as well if you want to call in. Let's go to Brian who's calling in Virginia. Brian, go ahead.
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Hey, guys. I'm just so upset. just so upset about what's going on with this government shutdown that i'm actually at the hospital now in the emergency room and i'm getting treated for government shutdown itis which is actually a real thing yeah i mean did they not they couldn't there's no one there to see you right that's uh yeah well it wasn't a government hospital i had to go to civilians so i'm good to go yeah i mean this is the thing from most americans
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Will not feel an impact. I'm not saying that no one will. Of course people will. They said 25% of the federal government. They will get back pay. Yeah, furloughed. So if they were supposed to get their paycheck next week and they were still shut down, that paycheck is coming. And they've been through it before if they've worked for the federal government in the last five years. So they know that the check is coming. Now, President Trump did say this. You want me to fire more people? Because the American people are about to see that we could probably keep all this going without at least 25%.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I think that's what happens. Look, it happened, sadly, a lot during COVID. I think a lot of people realized their businesses were bloated. Unfortunately, I mean, it costs a lot of people jobs, but you realized, oh, we have gotten a bit in an American culture where we are overstuffing a lot of our organizations. Obviously, the government has been for years. We don't want to cause anyone to lose their jobs, but it becomes a little bit more of a reality.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, right. It's not like the person who's just a good civil servant should be punished here. At the same time, if your bureaucracy is so bloated that your debt and the spending is out of control, that that civil servant, even if they lose their job, ultimately that might be better for them financially and their family. In a few years, even, they might be recovering better because of what else happens if we don't get the spending under control.
SPEAKER 13 :
First half hour flew by. We want you to continue being part of this conversation. We do have a second half hour of the broadcast coming up. It's me and Jordan. We're talking it all out, talking government shutdown.
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And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. Hey, welcome to Sekulow. This is Jordan Sekulow. As you can tell, I am in a different office right now, not in the studio. But we thought we had to come to you today with the breaking news from yesterday evening. It was in a key meeting. President Trump was in a meeting unrelated to Israel and Hamas or Gaza. And this deal that we've been discussing, of course, on the broadcast about Israel withdrawing, the IDF withdrawing from Gaza. Hamas demilitarizing, giving up control of governance of Gaza and allowing a basically a team primarily of Arab nation peacekeepers to join in on the fight to do what the IDF was doing to secure Gaza for the Palestinian people that live there. And so instead of having the IDF do that. Well, yesterday in a meeting, there was this meeting and all of a sudden you see Secretary of State Marco Rubio. I think we have the photo we can put up on the screen for folks. You see Secretary of State Marco Rubio in the meeting. He whispers into the president's ear. And what we now know is that the president was told, as he said, that we are very close to phase one of the peace deal being signed and agreed upon by both Hamas and the state of Israel, and that he's got to be ready to go with a statement. And then not soon after that, President Trump did issue a statement on Truth Social about the deal itself. And in that statement, which we're putting up on the screen, and I think it's very key for all of us to, again, kind of, take this in for what it is and also realize it hasn't happened yet. But the statement says that they have agreed to phase one. Phase one is the IDF withdrawal of Gaza. the new international force going in. And then of course, part of that deal is that all hostages, both the bodies of those who were killed by Hamas and those who are still living. Now, Israel estimates that they still believe there are 20 living hostages. Hamas has not totally confirmed that. They haven't told in any statement said, no, it's going to be less than that. What's unique there too is that two of those 20 are individuals that we represented. We brought their brother. They are twins. We brought their brother to Washington, D.C., not long after the October 7th attacks, that winter, to meet with members of Congress and meet with our team. And I've got to thank Speaker Johnson again for setting up those meetings. They met with the top Democrats as well to bring attention to what happened on October 7th. And from, again, none of us wanted to be here two years later. for those twin brothers to return home. So there's that hope that they do remain alive and that they will return home. The other two clients that we represented in that manner, unfortunately, their loved ones were killed by Hamas. and were executed by Hamas. So if that number is 20, it would be an unbelievable moment, obviously, for those families who have waited so long with so little information, and for the Middle East itself. So we're going to talk about the ramifications of that. That's why I came to you live today right from outside of our studio, kind of a grassroots-y way to make sure We broke down all the information for you so that you're prepared for what may happen this weekend between Israel and Hamas and the Arab nations. But I just think about if this deal moves forward, this is the most significant, I think, peace effort in the Middle East that we've seen in decades and would solve a problem. what has been a problem, a serious problem for the state of Israel and its Arab neighbors as well, the Palestinian issue, if you want to call it that, for the first time to say that we're going to move forward peacefully to negotiate what this looks like in the future with a governing body made up of a number of individuals, but not including Hamas. I mean, so it's hard to even imagine getting there, you know, two months ago. So we are going to, my dad's going to be joining us. We're going to be breaking it down for you. Share this with your friends and family. Pray. because no one has been released yet, and the piece has only been in place for a few hours at this point, but it is historic if we get there, and that's why we're joining you today on Sec. Welcome back to Seculo, folks. We're joined by my dad, Jay Seculo. This, again, as you see, I'm not in our normal studio, but I wanted to make sure you heard it from us directly, some analysis of what just broke yesterday evening between Israel, Hamas, the Arab world, the United States, which has been brokering this deal to, one, get to a ceasefire, between Israel and Hamas, second for Hamas to give up governance of the Gaza Strip, the return of the hostages. Israel believes 20 of those hostages are still living. Hamas hasn't said exactly that that's the number, but we hope and pray that it is that number and that they will ultimately return bodies as well. So this will be a first step. We'll see from Hamas if they can meet what they have agreed to. And I want to make that clear. Hamas has agreed to this. Now, until any of that happens, again, we have to be praying that it does. We've represented these families. One of those families, the brother of the twin brothers that Israel believes are still alive. Again, you can understand how they're feeling right now. One, that Israel has continued to confirm that they believe that they are living. And two, that they may be returned home over the weekend or at least early next week. I want to bring my dad right into the discussion, Jay Sekulow, our chief counsel. And dad, I mean, that's kind of point one, is that this would be... ultimately maybe the most historic peace deal in history if it goes through, in the Middle East, if it goes through the way that it is planned to. But even if phase one works, I mean, we haven't seen anything like this since the foundation of Israel. There's been consistent fighting and terror attacks and war since 1948.
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No, this is very encouraging. First of all, it would bring regional stability, not just to Israel and including Gaza and the West Bank, but it would bring regional stability to the Middle East. And that's very important for the rest of the world. You have to put this also in a context. Iran has been significantly degraded. over the last nine months because of President Trump's orders directly in our US military degrading their nuclear capacity. So you have that also happening simultaneously. We had the introduction of the first phase, what I call it, of the Abraham Accords. I think you're going to see this open up other countries to sign those accords in the very near future. You could already see that the regional players, including the Arab countries, are looking forward to this actually happening, because it will take pressure off of all of them. Of course, our initial and primary concern has been the hostages, because as lawyers, we were retained by those families, a number of the families, to represent their interests before international tribunals, which we did. You mentioned in the first segment, we did it in Washington, we've done it at the UN, we've done it at the European legislative chambers in Europe, including the European Parliament and the Council of Europe. So we have made an international effort here. And I think what you're about to see, and look, it's The details here are the key. It's not now what's been written. That's been executed. It is the implementation of this. Will we actually see the release of the hostages? And Jordan, as you just pointed out, are there 20? Are there 30? Are there five? We don't have a specific number. Israel's intelligence thinks there's upwards of 20. I hope and pray that's the case. I hope and pray there's more. But this is a very positive development, and I think you could see a radical change in the entire region.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I mean, we know we were with Leron Berman and his twin brothers, Gali and Ziv Berman, who Israel, throughout the conflict, throughout these two years, and their photos are on the screen now, and he joined us in Washington, D.C., Israel has believed and put it out the message they believe that those twin brothers are still alive. And that would be a miracle, but it would also be, I think, something that, again, people weren't expecting this to even be the case anymore, that this could actually come to a close. The way that Prime Minister Netanyahu actually said that this will not be over and we will not stop until every hostage is returned. And with the decimation of Hamas, the decimation of much of the Gaza Strip, a lot of pressure on Israel because of their response. But, Dad, ultimately, if Hamas decides demilitarizes and returns the bodies and those living hostages, Israel did exactly what it said it would do. Well, that's exactly right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And look, I mean, this has been a very trying time for the entire region. Gaza has been devastated. And, of course, the atrocities that Hamas did. And you're negotiating with terrorists. So you're signing deals with terrorists. We got to realize that. But there's a long term play here of regional stability with the way that it's envisioned that Gaza will be redeveloped. And I think that with the leadership of Hamas, it's also been degraded and significantly eliminated that they had no choice here. If the military action of Israel had not been taken, this deal would never have happened. If the president was not a president, Trump did not successfully order the U.S. military to strike those Iran nuclear facilities. This would not have happened. So it took a culmination of months of efforts here to do this.
SPEAKER 12 :
you realize that hamas was cut off from its allies iran no longer had the capability after those attacks to keep supplying them weapons most of their leadership has been uh taken out even when they announced new leaders the same for hezbollah so hezbollah was not able to go in and assist hamas as they usually would and other radical groups i mean their leadership is just decimated we We're not even sure who exactly is claiming to be the head of Hamas in the Gaza Strip right now. Usually they've got their entire face covered when they do any kind of media reports. They have some other political leaders, but most of them also have been taken out as well during this conflict. And I think, you know, Dad, it could rewrite history because we were getting to a point where the world was saying, you know what? This is too much from Israel. This is too much destruction, too much war. But as you just said, If this didn't all happen the way it happened, Israel would not be even thinking about right now any living hostages being returned, the bodies of those who were deceased, unfortunately, but those bodies being returned, and Hamas demilitarizing and allowing an international force, really a regional force of mostly Arab nation militaries to go in and secure the Gaza Strip instead of the Israelis having to do it. I mean... You think about that, hindsight's 20-20, but then you put it all together and realize everything that Israel did, including weathering this criticism and storm and questions about, did they go too far? Was it too aggressive in their response? Like you said, they wouldn't be here today, and they wouldn't be here today if the U.S. hadn't taken those aggressive steps on Iran as well. So we neutralized every single one of Hamas's partners. We made it clear that if you are a leader of Hamas, and Israel made it clear, even outside the Gaza Strip, that you were not safe. And so Ismail Hanei is no more. And their leadership that was inside the Gaza Strip was totally taken out so they say you know that uh they're willing to give up governance they're willing to demilitarize and that i think if that does happen it's because they basically already have given up they can't govern anymore and they can't uh they have they have very little military weaponry left i think their capacity as a both a paramilitary organization as and as uh
SPEAKER 03 :
functioning governments is gone. That has also been degraded and decimated. They don't have the capacity to cover. So I want to say something to some of the naysayers out there that were questioning President Trump on this and including conservatives, by the way, and well-known ones. and also those that were taking this kind of anti-Israel stance and they were doing too much. We would not be here today, first of all, if Hamas didn't start these atrocities, number one. Number two, we would not be here today unless the military action of the United States and the military action of Israel in the region had not taken place. So without those two, nothing happens. Now you've got Hamas coming to the table, giving up governance, which they're not capable of doing because they have no choice. They're not doing this because they want to. They're doing this because they have no choice. So, you know, there's vital American interests at play here in the Middle East. considering Iran was threatening to cut off the Strait of Hormuz, which would have removed, I think, 65 percent of the oil and gas transports in the region and also to the rest of the world. So this end result is very positive.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I just want to play this flashback really quick for folks. This is November 7th, a month after the October 7th attacks. We brought those families of the hostages we represented to Capitol Hill. This is Speaker of the House Mike Johnson two years ago.
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We want to thank these families again for their courage and their willingness to share your harrowing stories. And I will say again and reiterate once more, we will stand against these atrocities, and we will stand with Israel, and we'll stand with each of you and your families. We'll be praying for you, and we'll be taking action because that's what we're going to do here. That's what it's called for. I know that your time is short and you have to leave. I want to thank Jay and Jordan Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice for helping facilitate the visit today. I know you have a tight itinerary, so we'll allow you all to step off the stage, if you will.
SPEAKER 12 :
So folks, again, that just underscores how long at the ACLJ we've been working towards this kind of moment, knowing that it was an uphill battle anytime you're dealing with a terrorist organization. But I think it's a great reminder of why you support the work of the ACLJ. It's not only the work that we do in the United States, but the work that we do around the world. As you know, Jeff Balaban runs the ACLJ Jerusalem office. We need your support. Donate today. at ACLJ.org.
SPEAKER 13 :
Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are completely jammed. We're going to do our best to get to as many of those as we can, specifically in the back half hour, but keep trying, keep calling. We'll do our best to get to all of them we can. CeCe Howell is joining us in studio, senior attorney here at the ACLJ. I did want to pivot a little bit. We're going to continue talking about Israel, and CeCe's been to Israel more recently than any of us here, so she can comment as well as we are seeing this maybe historic moment. uh as uh bb net yahoo now i feel like you could have probably played this back uh episodes of this show over the last year and heard a very similar uh thing including talking points including the big deal points now these again i think they're controversial i think when i see the comments coming in a lot of you are not thrilled with some of these plans I do think we need to lean a little bit on President Trump and lean a little bit on Bibi Netanyahu that they are doing what's best for their people. And hopefully that is the case. But it is a bit concerning, some of them, for sure. I understand that. We're going to address those. I did also want to talk... But some of the work of the ACLJ is we have been working on issues involving the persecution of Christians throughout the world, including in Nigeria and other places, for many years, for decades now. It has become part of really the DNA of the ACLJ. It has been our work internationally. As we know, Christian persecution. Now, look, we saw what happened over the weekend. in the LDS church, where you saw right here in our country, we saw many people murdered, church burnt down, all these horrible things that happened to Christians. So I don't want, now I have to say that it feels like a rising tide that's happening right now. But I think what we can do also is turn to what's happening in other countries and go, we're not there yet. We got to make sure we don't get there as Americans. We got to make sure that we don't start treating religious institutions the way that happens in other parts of the world. And it's starting to bubble up on some mainstream news where you're actually hearing people talk about it. This is a clip I want to play for you. This is from Bill Maher, a real time of Bill Maher. This just happened. He had Nancy Mace on. Again, you may go, Logan, you're playing Bill Maher. Now, of course, we know Bill Maher has, he said he hasn't moved politically, but the left has moved significantly from him. He has been someone that's been fairly critical of of uh a lot of especially the the uh he's been very critical on people who are supporting uh the palestinian uh situation the hamas situation over israel it's very pro-israel uh but he also wants to make sure people are actually noticing what's happening around the world in terms of persecution of people of faith let's hear from bill maher can't believe i'm saying that real time with bill maher from just over the weekend
SPEAKER 10 :
The fact that this issue has not gotten on people's radar, it's pretty amazing. If you don't know what's going on in Nigeria, your media sources, you are in a bubble. And again, I'm not a Christian, but they are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria. They've killed over 100,000 since 2009. They've burned 18,000 churches. This is so much more. These are the Islamists, Boko Haram. This is so much more of a genocide attempt. than what is going on in Gaza. They are literally attempting to wipe out the Christian population of an entire country. Where are the kids protesting this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. No one will talk about it, so thank you. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's Africa, that's why. No one's talking about it, and they should be. You can't read about it on mainstream media. It's sad, so thank you for bringing it up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, because the Jews aren't involved. That's why. It's the Christians and the Muslims. Who cares?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's just... And Cece, this is an issue that we've talked about here for a long time. If you've watched this show for a long time, you've heard us bring this up. We fought to get Nigeria listed as a country of particular concern under the first Trump administration. And one of the first acts of Secretary of State Blinken under the Biden administration was to take them off that list. But it was because of this persecution. And as you know, you're hearing truth from Bill Maher on this, not someone who's normally like rah-rah for standing up for Christians, but it's the truth and you're not hearing about it. And just talk a little bit about that and the work that we do to raise this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and first I'm going to say you're hearing about it if you listen to the ACLJ. You're hearing about it if you go to our website. You're hearing about it if you listen to this radio show because we have talked about it since he says, you know, kind of started in 2009 escalating. And that's true because since 2009, 12 million Christians have been displaced. But we talk about this constantly. I am at the UN constantly talking about Nigeria because as far as Christian persecution goes, more Christians are killed for their faith in Nigeria than all of the other countries combined. And in fact, this year, in 2025, the first 220 days, there have been over 7,000 Christians killed for their faith. That is phenomenal. 32, that's an average of 32 Christians killed per day. And there's over 8,000 people that have been abducted. That's an average of 35 people a day abducted. Now, you think, just like they said, if there are 32 Christians being killed every single day because of their faith, you'd think we'd hear about that. Again, ACLJ talks about it all the time. We point to it all the time. But I'm thrilled that we do now have some mainstream media and people that are paying attention to this because this is a huge concern and it needs to be fixed. and you're exactly right will we were on it because nigeria under the last trump administration was a country of particular concern and that is from the state department it's a designation from the state department and it's specifically for religious freedom violations so if there should be any country in the world that's a cpc It should be Nigeria. And then there are punishments that come along with that. That's why it's critical that it is a CPC. And again, we won't stop talking about this. And I'm thrilled that other media outlets are picking it up.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's one of the things is completely independent media here at the ACLJ. What we do here on our media side is we are able to bring up stories that are not going to get the attention of the mainstream media. But one of the goals is obviously to break through to the mainstream media. is to make sure that our clients, that anything we're supporting, makes it through. It's not just on here. We can be the constant voice yelling, but we understand we are going to be a smaller percentage of people that maybe get their news from some of these mainstream outlets. However, that's growing, that's shifting, that's changing, which is great. However, we couldn't do that without your support because we're able to do this. We're able to go to court. We're able to go to the UN. We're able to do all of these things, take action as well as report. A lot of people can't do that. So I want to encourage you, of course, to support the work of the ACLJ while you're at it. But it's true. We all live in sort of little bubbles. I send Will all the time because I'm very connected in sort of the, I guess you'd say the Israel Zionist side of this. I send Will news stories all the time where he's like, this wasn't even on my feed. It's like, yeah, it's not necessarily that you're doing anything to keep it off your feed. It's just, you have to get so plugged into such a niche audience. That sometimes these things that are big stories or are big portions of stories aren't reported.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, even that point that there was that madman that ran into a wedding at a country club in Connecticut and or New Hampshire, one of the two, and had a shooting. My feed was only headlines of mass shooting at wedding in New Hampshire. Yeah. Nowhere in the headlines that I was being fed was it that the gunman cried, free Palestine, before committing his murders. Right. Once again, the narrative changing before you, you are being manipulated. Yeah, you have to be really careful. And you're being manipulated by a lot of people on the right right now when it comes to Israel.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. I think you've got to make sure you're staying tuned in. Now, I'm very happy to report that it looks like a lot of our people are awake to it. You know what I think is good is that you're seeing a lot of the people who have been the most trusted sources. for decades now, including even your senators. Those are the ones whose voices are loud and have been calling out some of this. And at least you are trusting some of these voices you've trusted for years. Now, that being said, there obviously is not. It's the most I've ever seen in my lifetime. where the conservative audience, if you will, has not been supportive of Israel until the last couple months. But you know what? Maybe today things change as President Trump meets with Benjamin Netanyahu. Hey, we get back. We got a second half hour coming up. Support the work of the ACLJ. I need you to go to ACLJ.org right now. Whether it's CeCe's incredible work she's doing at the UN, whether we're supporting Christians in Nigeria that are being persecuted for their faith, or what we're doing just around the world. The ACLJ doesn't exist within the borders just of America. We're doing work around the world. Go to ACLJ.org. We'll talk to you next week.
In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush brings to light the significant acquisition of the Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems by a former Republican election official. With a decision to implement changes advocated by Donald Trump, this move has raised eyebrows, as it potentially nullifies previous allegations regarding compromised voting machines. The conversation unpacks the implications of this acquisition and the shift towards creating a more transparent and auditable election system, now labeled as Liberty Vote. John and co-host Andy engage in an insightful discussion on the complexities involved with machine voting, potential outcomes, and democratic processes.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I'm a pro jack. And who do you think they give you? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18 and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know. And he says, oh, it won't be any money. When you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payton.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
SPEAKER 12 :
What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
SPEAKER 18 :
What do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 24 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world.
SPEAKER 16 :
Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. Happy Friday. Y'all made it. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And we made it to Friday, Andy. We made it to Friday. Feels good. Two movies today, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we got Soul on Fire and Tron Ares. Did you watch the original Tron?
SPEAKER 10 :
It's been a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did.
SPEAKER 10 :
Long time. Did you watch it again just to make sure you were up on it or what?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no. I didn't think it really mattered too much to the current story, and it doesn't.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good to know. All right. In news. Yes. Before we get going with Andy's reviews. This is an interesting story because I didn't know this was even something that was in the works, and most of you probably didn't. As well, former Republican election official buys the Denver-based Dominion voting systems and has agreed to do exactly what Donald Trump mandated in the executive order, even though that executive order doesn't apply to states. This particular person is saying, you know, it doesn't matter. We're still going to do what he's asking to have done. So for a lot of you that have been on the whole Dominion train and we shouldn't have machines and so on and so forth, this is a game changer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I don't think it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it's a game changer as in, if they thought that it was the machines that were cheating, they won't be able to say that any longer because this guy will now be running it instead of somebody else, is my point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah. And by the way, I was agreeing with you. I was saying I disagree with them. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, if they think this is going to be a game changer... And guys, I don't mean to come down and be cynical. I've always said my problem with the Dominion systems was that they were open to compromise. I felt they really were. Okay. My problem was I didn't see any proof they had been compromised, certainly in any meaningful way to affect the elections. I just need proof before I can jump into something like that. I didn't see it, John. My prediction is it will have virtually no effect on outcomes here in Colorado. All right. Now, if you wanted to make a big impact on outcomes, I think same-day voting with ID would make a huge impact.
SPEAKER 10 :
And for all of you listening, there will be an article. We'll talk about it even probably a little bit more next week. But there is an article that is out kind of talking about how this particular person will also make sure that things are auditable, paper trail, the whole nine yards. And, again, it's a big article. Those of you can go out and read it. I wasn't aware that this was – did you know this was even in the works?
SPEAKER 07 :
I knew it was possible. I didn't know if it was going to happen. What do you think of it, John?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think it's a good thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think what it does.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's going to take away a lot of the concerns.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. That was my exact comment was if anyone after the fact is now going after the machines, quote unquote. Right. That should now. Now, remember. Okay, you and I can talk more about this on Tuesday. Sure. Because we can get into this in depth on Tuesday. But we'll give you all a little bit of teaser. This is going to take away the, well, my candidate won because they cheated. Right. This is going to take away some of that, in my opinion, meaning you're not going to have that excuse. Meaning those of you that are on the on the hardcore right, the Davidian end of things, and you run the wrong candidate and you wonder why they lose. This won't be your excuse anymore.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. This excuse is now going to be gone. I will say this hypothetically. Okay, hypothetically, if you wanted to cheat big and quickly, you would do it with machines, obviously, right? But the simple fact is you can cheat using paper ballots, all right? I always mention Fulton County, Atlanta, all right? Remember boxes of ballots. You can do that, folks. It's not like you can't cheat by doing it the old-fashioned way. People have been stuffing ballot boxes for how long? Come on.
SPEAKER 10 :
since the beginning of voting, Andy?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, pretty much. If you wanted to. Yeah, pretty much. And so what all I'm saying is this, you know, am I against this? No, I'm fine. I think it's great. You know, take away that excuse. I was never in love with Dominion anyway. You know, I had concerns about it at least being open to compromise. That was that was my only concern is it seemed open to compromise.
SPEAKER 10 :
So the new company is going to be called Liberty Vote.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
They're changing the name from Dominion to Liberty Vote. But does the state have to work with them? That one I have no idea on, Andy. These are things that I'll have to look at before we get into Tuesday.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. The state party is run by Democrats. Can't they just turn around and say, fine, we're going to use someone else who gives us a system we like?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't understand how that works. Well, I'm guessing it depends upon probably previous contracts that might probably still be in effect given he bought an existing company. That I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And is there clauses in there that if ownership changes, they can now avoid the contract? These are things that are beyond my scope of knowledge at this point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, but here's, and we'll leave it with this, but the state party bought a certain product, okay? If new ownership takes over, and you know this in business, John, if a new ownership takes over and changes the product, I don't see how you are still tied into that contract.
SPEAKER 10 :
You may not be. Okay. To your point. And you're probably correct in what you're saying there, Andy. And this is, again, these are things that we'll have to do some research on. But here's where it gets a little dicey. With only a year left, does that give someone else enough time to come in and change an entire system around? And I don't know that answer either.
SPEAKER 07 :
I believe it would. I believe they would have time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, again, these are things that are, again, folks, I'm not going to claim to know because I don't. And here's something else.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I could be wrong, yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER 10 :
What I was just going to say is for those that are going to come out on social media and claim they know, this is another one of those where be careful because, frankly, they probably don't either.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, that's why I said I believe they would. I believe they would have enough time to get a new program in there and run with that, but I don't know that. I mean, John, the amount of simple data entry that you would have to do, transferring all the data over into that would be enormous. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And here's the other thing that Democrats on their side are going to have to be a little bit leery of. If you change just because now a different owner has taken over that's more on the right side of the aisle than the left, what does that say about you as a party?
SPEAKER 07 :
Not good things. Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
So there's a lot more at play here than just, yeah, we'll switch and go with the other guys. So we'll talk again. This is a good topic. We can get into more of this on Tuesday. I just want to tease you all on this. This is news literally that I just saw this morning. And I haven't even seen too many people on social media at this point talking about this change. And I'm kind of wondering why, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Last question for the businessman, and maybe you can answer it Tuesday. I don't know. Why would you buy something like this simply to have it not be used? I mean, obviously you do as an activist, but is he going to lose money on this purchase?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, because you're going to use it. Because we've talked about this in the past, and again, we'll get into this more on Tuesday. But folks, those of you that think hand-counting ballots is really easy, it's not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 10 :
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Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John! Are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, well, John, how can a boy come back from almost burning to death? I mean, wow, that's horrible, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
It is bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, we find out in the true story, Soul on Fire.
SPEAKER 16 :
Come on, John, stay with me. Wake up! Coming through, coming through.
SPEAKER 14 :
How bad is it? He has burns to 100% of his body.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want to send out a special hello tonight to a certain young man who's laid up in the hospital. His name is John O'Leary. He's a tough little guy.
SPEAKER 24 :
Boy, you listen to me. You will walk again. When I first came to see you, they said you had no chance. But here you are. You're going to face challenges when you get out of here. But you can still do almost anything. Do you like to dance, Beth?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, Wes, but I will.
SPEAKER 14 :
Who is that guy? John O'Leary. He's kind of a legend around here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Why didn't you ask me out the night we met?
SPEAKER 20 :
Figured you wouldn't want me to.
SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome to the first project of O'Leary and Bright's construction.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, everybody grab a hard hat.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ladies first.
SPEAKER 22 :
No. Why would a man who can't hold a hammer choose to be a contractor?
SPEAKER 15 :
I guess I like to just see houses for what they can be, not what they are.
SPEAKER 22 :
I have a scout troop, and I heard about what happened to you. I just thought that my girls might be inspired if you came and talked to them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, wow. I may have an idea for a way that we could work together.
SPEAKER 22 :
Public speaking? I hope you got better at it.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know what it feels like to think you've probably thrown your life away.
SPEAKER 15 :
To move through the adversities of life, we must have a reason to thrive that is bigger than all the challenges that we face.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you focus exactly on loving the life that you're living right now, not the life that you think you could have had or should have had, that's the whole deal right there. Everything that you did, why me?
SPEAKER 24 :
Seemed like you needed it. Good life out of ashes. Remarkable.
SPEAKER 14 :
The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, John, what do you think? William Macy is in this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I love William Macy.
SPEAKER 10 :
I do, too. I would not have picked that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, and John Corbett's in it, too. Nice. You would know him if you saw him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, John O'Leary, you've probably heard of him. He's a world-famous author and motivational speaker. But it wasn't always that way, John. As a 10-year-old boy, John made a terrible mistake by playing with fire. John burned down his house and sustained 100% burns over his entire body. Well, he was given, at best, 1% chance to live. Think about that. The surgeons, the doctors, they're all saying 1% at best chance to live. And they told his parents because they wanted to shoot straight with him. They weren't being mean. But his great parents, Denny and Susan, they were played by John Corbett and Stephanie Sostak. Well, they refused to give up. Neither did a hardcore male nurse named Roy, played by Devon Franklin. This is a true story. Once again, I'm just reminding people. And he existed, too. Now, through torturous physical therapy, John survived. Now, John was a huge St. Louis Cardinals fan at a time when the legendary Jack Buck was their announcer. You remember him, don't you? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
I used to hear him. Joe Buck's dad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. And he was so smooth. He was smooth as glass. It was really something listening to him. But anyway, Jack heard about John fighting for his life and visited him. Well, Jack became laser focused on young John surviving and thus began a great friendship that lasted many years. From there, John's life was a struggle. He lost his fingers, so he had to learn how to eat with a fork, basically using stumps.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, think about that. He had to learn to walk again. Everything was absolute pain. Now, he grew up. He went to college, and while becoming a big partier at college, he was. He was the life of the party. He met a young woman named Beth. And she's played by Maisie McLean. By the way, at this point, John is played by Joel Courtney.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. And Beth, she challenged him. Hey, get with it. Get it together. And don't women generally do that for us? Yes. I honestly believe God put women on the planet for two reasons. First of all, for their own greatness. And secondly, to get us to recognize ours. Eventually, John went on to be an author and a speaker. But he learned hard lessons along the way. The question is... If we could do it all over, would we change anything? Now, he was asked this right away, and that's the question John has to answer in Soul on Fire. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
Sounds like a good movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, what works in Soul on Fire? First of all, just a great message, John, obviously. You get one life, make yours matter. It's pretty good.
SPEAKER 10 :
Make the most of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Strong, understated performances from William Macy, John Corbett, and all the other adult characters. My favorite, actually... Well, first of all, I've got to give Macy his props. He did such a great job. You know Macy. He can play very extreme characters or very laid-back characters. This was very understated because so was Jack Buck. And I felt that that added a lot to his emotion because when you've got somebody who... is always over the top emotional, then when they get emotional, it doesn't mean much, right? But when you got somebody who's always under such absolute control, like Jack Buck was, and then to see his heart broken with this kid, it really hits you, all right? But my favorite, I'm gonna just say was Devon Franklin, and he played the nurse. Nurse Roy, he was good. He was good. He was fun. He was interesting. And he also took him through the toughest times. And finally, this is a very touching story showing the real struggles of overcoming incredible pain. All right, here it comes. What doesn't work in Soul on Fire? Oh, John. Truly awful directing. I mean awful. And we'll get into what that means in a moment because a lot of people don't know when a movie is being directed well or directed poorly just because they're watching to see how good the actors do, how funny it is, and how it looks. And that's fine. That's what they're there for. They're the audience. You're supposed to be watching that. Here's what I mean. Now, the first half was pure pain. And I'm not talking about John's suffering. Once again, there was no topping of lines. And so you would have these actors delivering their lines fine, but there was a pause between each one. This one speaks, pause. That one speaks, pause. This one speaks, pause. That one speaks, pause. It was just awful. And what it would do, it would just ruin the flow of the movie. I mentioned that to Corey because she went with me. She said, yeah, there's no. And we were actually talking a little bit during it. And she's like, there's no flow.
SPEAKER 10 :
No continuity.
SPEAKER 07 :
No continuity. Yeah. And the reason is they're not topping each other's lines at all. That doesn't mean you do it constantly. That way, if you see people topping each other's lines, this person talks that one, this one, that one. But then there's a pause. Then it's dramatic.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
You see?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
But if there's a pause between every line.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's too weird. Yeah, it doesn't work at all. Because you don't talk like that normally.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 10 :
Like we just did.
SPEAKER 07 :
What we're doing right now, right? Yeah, exactly. You see, that's how people actually talk. Correct. In real life, they go back and forth. You talk to your wife around the house. You guys go back and forth. You're topping each other's lines naturally, constantly.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's just the way communication works.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which you just did. And it's normal. It's good. It's high energy. Really quick here. No, wait.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't even want to practice the other way.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you get the idea. John's college roommate could have easily been a very funny character, but the director wrecked the comedic timing with pauses. You could tell the actor could deliver the lines. But first of all, they weren't expecting enough of him. And secondly, the pauses killed it. Next. Now, this is awful. The college party sequences. Oh, my. This is a Christian film. All right. The college party sequences look like bad family TV from the 80s.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my gosh. Corey, who was with me, she said it looked like homeschoolers trying to act like beer drinking partiers in a school play.
SPEAKER 10 :
In other words, they have no idea what they're supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And it just, it was awful. It was, it was painful. It was just like, stop. I mean, literally cut the film, cut out this 10 minute section, all of it. I don't even care if it's important to the plot.
SPEAKER 10 :
Watching Charlie play a drunk. Yeah. It kind of would be. Not to be rude, but that doesn't work out too well.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it wouldn't. It just wouldn't. And here's another thing. What does OMG mean?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Well, because they couldn't take God's name in vain during the movie, they had all these young teen or college characters saying, oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. And they did it like a dozen times. I don't know. I lost track. And it sounded awful. And I was just like, oh, please. I know you don't want to take God's name in vain. That's great. Don't. Use another phrase. Use anything else than this. You sound so Christianized.
SPEAKER 10 :
Come up with one if you have to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I mean, there are hospital rooms that are not this sanitized. Okay. It was really painful watching this. They literally spent no money. This is a big one. Aging John and Beth as they grew into having kids and becoming 10, 20 years older. Okay, because they showed them 10, 20 years later with kids, you know, and Jack Buck is aging and all this. They looked exactly like college students still. Seriously. They looked the same.
SPEAKER 10 :
If only.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, if only. Gee golly, that'd be great.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my God, Andy, if only.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anybody who's ever been to a school reunion. I had to throw that in there on purpose. Yeah, but seriously, anybody who's ever been to a school reunion knows.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, they age. Yes. People get fat. They age. They get crippled. They, you know, crippled as in their back hurts.
SPEAKER 07 :
They age quickly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, here's another one. While the last third of the movie picked up. The ending then drags out again. And I did think that the last third of the movie, and this is why I think it's going to get some better scores, especially from the people who go. We'll talk about that in a moment. You know, as we always say, what is the part people remember the most about a movie? The end. Exactly. Exactly. Well, the ending, they did drag it out, but the last third was actually close to about a four-star movie. That last third. No, there was two-thirds before that. Okay. This is a classic example, though, John, of Christians who go to the movies having very low expectations for Christian films.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's too bad. It shouldn't be that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
It shouldn't be that way. It should be the opposite. They don't expect... It should be the opposite. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know my feelings on this, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, how you and I were just topping each other's lines, that's, you know, you go and watch a movie with Seth Rogen or whatever, and they do their comedy shtick. That's exactly what they're doing, and it's funny, and we laugh, right? And we watch two people doing that without that. We're not going to laugh. We're just sitting there wondering, hey, what's going wrong here? Yeah. Well, Christians are a little more forgiving because they're – honestly, they don't go to a lot of Hollywood movies. They don't. And this is something for all you who don't know. I see a lot of the same people in some of these theaters. The Christian movies, it's a totally different crowd. It's people I barely see at the movies. Got it. And it was this time as well, which is fine. They're wonderful people. But here's the thing. Because they're so sick of Hollywood's usual lefty sickness – That's why they don't go to a lot of movies, which, by the way, I think there's a lot of honor to that. They have very low expectations, low standards. And so, you know, I looked at a lot of the reviews from people who had gone to the movie, right, the audience reviews. They were quite friendly, very friendly, praising it, praising it, praising it. And I was just watching and I was looking when they would say why they liked it. And it was just all about what a great inspirational story it was. Well, guess what? It is an inspirational story. Make a better movie. I'm telling you what, John O'Leary deserved a much better movie about his life. He is incredible. This movie is not. Rotten Tomatoes, it was mostly Christian or right-wing kind of leaning reviewers. Most of the other ones wouldn't touch it because it only had like six reviews.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gave it 83% because of that. Okay. John, it's not that good. Sorry. Quality, two stars. For me, it was one. I'm being nice here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. I'm going to give it two because, once again, I think people are pretty forgiving. And I do think that the last third was much better than... The lines were coming together. It was better directed. It was starting to get chemistry.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Two stars. Political, three. Moral, religious. Obviously, it's a five. Great morals. Great politics. Just a great feeling watching this man's life and watching what he did. But do I recommend going to Soul on Fire? I'm not recommending against it. Folks, if you are a Christian and you want to see this Christian film, go ahead. Go see it. Just understand that first two-thirds, there are going to be some very, very clumsy moments.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can you take a nap? Just kidding.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just about did. I just about did. Oh, my gosh. There was one point where... This teenage girl or young 20s girl or whatever, because there was a group of them, and they were asking him questions, and she was asking hers. I'm going to just say it. Pretty young thing. One of the worst actresses I have ever seen in my entire life. Wow. Must have been the niece of the director or something. Some family member. Yeah, I was watching this, and I'm just like, oh, my gosh. And it's kind of funny, too, because this is – we're talking about – a one-minute segment out of an hour 45 whatever movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you still remember it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, not only do I still remember it, Corey brought it up on her own later last night. Remember that girl? She was so horrible.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow, that's too bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and you know Corey. She doesn't review movies. She's a smart person. She's not dumb like me. She doesn't put herself through this. So she went to that. Yeah, she had a real hard time with this movie, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so I have a minute or two.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is, as you know, one of my biggest complaints.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that, you know... Christian movies, directors, all of that, you know, put out a less than stellar product, and yet they expect everybody to still come and give it good reviews and this, that, or the other. And the comparison, folks, and hear me out on this. We'll talk more about this on Tuesday. The comparison is you all that are on the far right in the Davidian circle think that because they're your candidate and they think like you and they're just like you, that everybody should also vote for them. And the reality is that's not how it works.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Am I right, Andy?
SPEAKER 07 :
John, that's incredibly profound. Let me finish it. Because what you're saying is we will look at this hyper-Christian movie, which, by the way, I'm hyper-Christian.
SPEAKER 10 :
So am I. We both are, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, absolutely. But it's very poorly made, especially the first couple thirds are just with some of the worst acting, the college scenes, the whole thing. Directing is awful. And we'll look at this, and we as Christians might say, oh, this is really good, and then show it to our friends who aren't Christian, and they'll just be like, they're looking at their watch, begging for this to be over by midway through. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
They want to get saved just so it can be over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, Davidian candidates, Davidians believe, not all of them. I believe the leaders in the Davidians don't believe their candidates will win. They just want the money.
SPEAKER 10 :
They just want the money. You're right.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want the money. They want the power and the money. That's all they want. Right, because during the primary, they soak up a lot of cash. That's right. I believe that the Davidians out there in the crowd honestly believe that their candidate who believes with them, who marks off their entire purity test, is going to sell to the general public in Colorado.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they'll get killed.
SPEAKER 10 :
They get the best Liberty score, so they've got to be the best candidate.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And when they get clobbered, what are they going to say? Dominion. They're going to say, we were cheated. They can't say that now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they'll say something. We'll see.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm just saying you make a heck of a point there. You're right. It's exactly the same thing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because it's what it is, and it aligns with us, you should like it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow. That's true.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's what they think, Andy. Yeah. And the reality is, folks, the world's not looking at it that way. And the difference between the movie and politics is that movie doesn't really have any bearing on one's life moving forward. It's entertainment period. Yeah, there might be a message that changes somebody's life at some point in time. But the reality is that's probably minimalistic if you really want to get down to it. But politicians, oh, man, they affect everything we do in life, especially the local ones that we elect. Yeah. There's huge impact is my point there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my.
SPEAKER 10 :
And yet you all aren't looking at it correctly.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, they weren't. I remember when we chose Dan Mays, and we didn't vet him, and obviously he had a lot of problems, it turned out. But it was basically the exact same Davidian type of people back then who chose him. And what they said, when all the bad stuff about Dan was coming out, they said, this won't matter. He's such a good man. We don't believe this. We don't believe this. He's going to win anyway. And I was just like... You're out of your mind.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they were. They're crazy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
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You're listening to Rush to Reason. And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Are you ready for another movie? This one, the previews look really cool. They look a lot of fun. They do. Yeah, they really do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, and you never saw Tron.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's been a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it was way back when.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's been a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Way back when. But okay, here we go. Disney, they bring a long overdue sequel. By the way, there was one. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, it did. Oh, okay. But we don't talk about that. Anyway, they bring a long overdue new sequel to a sci-fi classic in Tron Ares.
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Since time began... Man has gazed at the stars and he has wondered, am I alone? So much talk of AI and big tech today. Virtual worlds, what are they gonna look like? When will we get there? Well, folks, we're not going there. Today, are coming here. I would like you to meet Ares, the ultimate soldier. He's biblically strong, lightning fast, supremely intelligent. And if he is struck down on the battlefield, I will simply make you another.
SPEAKER 24 :
You think you're in control of this. You're not.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, John. You think you're in control of this review. You're not.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I'm not.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in the original film, we saw how we could go into characters in the digital world, right? But now, super tech companies are competing to bring the digital world here. Okay. Well, Julian Dilliger, he's played by Evan Peters... He and his company, Dillinger, have created a technology that brings things and characters from the grid. They call it the grid. It's like calling it the Matrix, right? They bring it from the grid into the real world, but there's a catch. They only last 29 minutes, and then they fall to ashes. Why is this? I have no idea. They don't say. Anyway, Julian's competitor, ENCOM, is led by Eve Kim. Now, she's played by Greta Lee, who's a good actress. I enjoy her. And she's been working on the permanence code. Are you keeping up with all this? The permanence code, which would fix the 29-minute problem. Okay, so you get that code into this person or into this bike or into this whatever thing that you zap into the real world. And guess what? It'll stay permanently. It won't just fall apart in 29 minutes. Well, Julian, he can't allow Eve to win, so he unleashes his top AI warrior, Ares, played by Jared Leto, who's a good actor, to get the permanence code from Eve. This is terrifying, since these AI warriors are practically unstoppable in the real world, even though they only last 29 minutes. Well, I'm telling you what, if you're as fast and powerful as these guys are, you can do a lot of damage.
SPEAKER 10 :
You can do a lot in 29 minutes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, you can do a lot in 29 minutes. Well, Ares, he has his own issues, however. He doesn't appreciate being seen as expendable, would you? Since Julian insists if Ares is killed, he can just make more. Gee, thanks. Also, Ares sees something in Eve. He sees something in Eve that Julian lacks. Compassion. But it's not as simple as just switching sides. Because Ares has a fellow AI warrior named Athena, played by Jodie Turner-Smith. And she's fully loyal to Julian's commands. So once again, Julian... He can send out Ares, he can send out Athena, or he can send out their whole team, right? And he's going to send them after Eve, but Ares is starting to wonder about things. Will Athena? Now, there are many other AI warriors as well, so now it's a race against time. Who will Ares help? Will Athena work with him or against him? Can Eve survive Julian's heartless agenda? And throughout it all, will we be enjoying watching an amazing light show in 3D? That is basically the story of Tron Ares. What do you think? It looks good, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of an interesting plot, right? Okay, well, what works in Tron Ares? Well, first of all, you get some solid performances from Leto, Lee, and especially Jodie Turner-Smith. Now, she's the villain, and I like this. She is Athena. I thought she did a very good job. You have good music throughout this. A lot of good music in the movie. I like a good soundtrack. So do you. Most of all, this is an absolute visual feast with the grid world invading our own. Everywhere these grid cycles go, they leave behind a wall, right? A wall behind them that either slices through anything in its wake or becomes impenetrable for real world vehicles. This is really something to watch. Oh, and they're really fast too. So that's very cool. Now, there are some moments of levity with Eve's assistant and with Ares talking about music. There's also a pretty fun moment where Ares is basically talking to Eve and breaking her down psychologically. He's basically a computer who knows a lot of subjects. I'll just say that. And it's pretty funny. All right. What doesn't work in Tron Ares? Yikes. Well, first of all, the evil corporate CEO exploits the latest tech for bad. Wow, we haven't seen that a trillion times, right? I'm sorry, folks, threadbare. That horse has been beaten so far to death, it's pulp. Just saying. Here's the biggest one. And by the way, I'm not the only one saying this. This was almost universally said by a lot of of reviewers. Terrible, terrible script. And it is bad. This literally packed about 45 minutes of story into nearly two hours of film. Wow. And I was yawning. We'll get to that in a moment. Gillian Anderson, she was Scully on the X-Files. She's almost lifeless in her role as Gillian's mother. Yuck. She was terrible.
SPEAKER 10 :
She's a good actress.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, she is. I like Gillian Anderson a lot, but she was not good in this. I didn't care about any of the characters, like at all. This is the worst part of the movie. They tried to create instant sympathy for Eve, for instance, by inserting trauma involving her sister, but it was so cliched and forced. The whole city, John, is being destroyed and I didn't care. Hmm. All right. They could have put puppies, nuns and disabled veterans in this film. And Tron Ares would have made me actually care nothing for them, too. It was incredible. Rarely have I watched a film and cared absolutely nothing about the characters who were in it this much. It was a light show. I was just watching a light show. Not saying there weren't some moments, but boy, oh boy, few and far between. Before long, an amazing light show with no heart becomes a tedious trip to a theme park. I haven't yawned this much since my last budget appropriations meeting. Okay, this was boring. Needed far, far more humor. And it really did. Eve's sidekick. She had a sidekick guy. He was actually woefully underused. He could have been very funny. And once again, the moment where Ares is analyzing Eve, you start to wake up for a moment. It starts to become funny. Okay, well, that moment passes and they go right back to, I don't know, everybody talking very seriously about what they're going to do while nothing's happening. I remember when they did, you know, you had the original Star Wars, right? 4, 5, and 6. And then they go back to the prequels 1, 2, and 3. And they talk about all this... interplanetary politics on a planet that you don't know and don't care about. Remember how boring it was? It was really boring. And they're all talking about this various politics going back and forth. That's how this movie felt. You don't care. That's poor writing, definitely. It's also very poor directing. Not as bad as Soul on Fire. Okay, it's better directed than that. But basically, here's what I was watching, John. And I did watch it in 3D, which was very impressive. Wow, right? Just light show going all around the theater. And it's like, whoa, I'm watching all this. That's very cool. But I couldn't care less about any of the characters. You know what? That whoa feeling, lights going around the theater, that's really entertaining for maybe 20 minutes. Okay, I need a story. I need characters who I actually really care if this one gets killed or not, or if that one survives or not. Okay, and you don't. And once again, on this, the reviewers were almost unified across the board. Virtually none of them thought this was a good story. So there you go. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes. Last score I saw, it had gotten up to 55%. Wow. Yeah. That's bad. That is bad. I hate to say this. This is going to sound really mean. But, you know, I asked Corey, I said, well, you know, one zero to five. What do you think? And she said. One, she said, for me, it's a half star. She said, but I'm going to give it one because of the light show. I said, you know what? I got to be honest. I was so bored. If yawning this many times, I'm going to give it one star. This was a bad movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's not what I expected.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. I know because it was so cool to watch. Not at all what I expected. I'm watching these previews. I'm thinking, oh, this is so cool. And there were a few moments. It's just like, wow. And she thought it was even worse. She said it was like 20 minutes of story in the whole movie. You know, I'm being nice. I thought it was about 45 minutes of story. And what I noticed a lot of the time, John, is that they would have a little bit of story, right? And then just all kinds of visuals for like 5, 10 minutes. You know what? 5, 10 minutes is a long time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that's a long time in a movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, when you're watching a movie. And you want something that gets you gripped and attached. And I know I'm kind of repeating myself at this point. So basically, Tron Ares. Do I recommend going to Tron Ares? No, I do not. But if you are just really into that light show kind of thing, guess what? You may enjoy Tron Ares. It may be a lot of fun for you.
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Got it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay? For everybody else, if you want to watch people that you care about in any kind of situation, don't go to Tron Ares. Don't waste your money. Oh, I'm sorry. Political. Quality, one star. Political, two. More religious, three. One, two, three. Three.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. One, two, three. That's sad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the usual beating up on big corporate bigwigs. I took it down to two for that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, who cares now?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's getting old. America's moved on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Precisely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, the woke side of things already changed all that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLC 560. Okay, John, quick question here. As you know, the Schumer shutdown, the firings have begun. Trump.
SPEAKER 10 :
I saw that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the Trump administration is taking the opportunity to start a reduction in force with permanent firings. Okay. Which I'm not sure they can use the shutdown as legal justification for that. Don't know. Don't care. That'll be hashed out in the courts. But here's my question to you. What about all the senators and congresspeople who are still being paid during this time?
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They shouldn't be.
SPEAKER 07 :
See, that's what I wanted to know.
SPEAKER 09 :
They shouldn't be.
SPEAKER 07 :
Although I got to ask a question here, though. What about the Republicans who all voted to keep the government open? Should they lose their paycheck? I mean, they voted to keep it open.
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And I think the majority of those, honestly, I think if you really sat down and talked to them, if you took it away while this is going on, I don't think they'd even care.
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No, I think they'd be fine. If I were one of them, you know what I would do? I'd say, I'm donating my paycheck to help, I don't know, cops or whatever. Yeah, I mean, Trump doesn't even take one, so what do you do? I just think that definitely everybody who's voting to keep it shut down, the Democrats and Rand Paul, should all lose their paycheck, in my opinion. The Republicans, what do you think their... I mean, I would understand saying, no, they've got to lose theirs too if this was just tangled over a tough budget.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's not. It's over wasteful spending is all this is over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, and all this is is a resolution to keep it open for seven weeks while they talk.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't see you see what I'm saying here. I don't see how you can blame the Republicans for this shutdown.
SPEAKER 10 :
You can't. In fact, they're going to start voting for Republican stuff. I don't know if you saw this, but they're going to start actually playing ads of Kristi Noem in airports talking about how the shutdown is the fault of the Democrats.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm going to be honest. I wouldn't do that. I think because you're using the airports as a place to take political shots. And even though it's totally right, I saw the ads, and she does a very good job.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and basically, for those of you listening, it's basically, here's the reason why you might have delays and so on.
SPEAKER 07 :
The Democrats have cut, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
They have cut funding and so on. You know, and honestly, I don't have a problem with that, Andy. Here's why.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're explaining why somebody's sitting there wondering, why am I having the issues here? Well, guess what? Here's the reason why. Well, and what she's saying is true. It is. It's totally true. There's no lie there.
SPEAKER 07 :
My only concern was, I mean, these are tax-funded places, and you're using them to take shots politically.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, is it a shot or is it an explanation as to this is why your travel is delayed?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's both. I mean, what she's saying is 100% honest. Now, if the Democrats did this, they would use lies. Oh, they would. That's right. They would be propagating lies. Absolutely. Kristi Noem's not lying at all. No, you're right. What she's saying is 100% true.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. You're correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, at any rate, so you know what? I'm going to say this. I believe all of the Senate should not be getting their pay during this time, and the House. That's my opinion. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
I can't argue with that. I can't argue with that. I think there's a lot of government officials, frankly, that shouldn't be getting paid. And to your point, really quick, I know we're out of time here, but going back to the people that Trump is going through and cleaning up and basically not furloughing but laying off, yeah, that'll come out in the courts. Does he have the right to do so? Frankly, he probably has the right to do so at any time. Is this a valid time? I mean, I think if you're going to clean anything up, clean it up. Let's go for it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I love it, of course. I say cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. You know me. I mean, if it's not efficient, cut it. Yeah, I'm enjoying it thoroughly. Fully agree. But I just think that while our ICE agents are putting their lives on the line while not getting paid, I don't think Congress should either.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can't argue that. Nope, can't argue that. All right, what are we doing next hour? NFL picks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we're going to do NFL picks, and then we're going to do, because of Soul on Fire, we're going to do inspirational stories, and that's going to be different for everybody. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
You all have different ones. All right, we'll come back. Got another full hour coming your way. Rush to Reason, Debra's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We'll be right back.
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I'm a rich guy.
Join professional money manager Bill Gundersen as he takes a deep dive into the global financial markets. From the Dow and NASDAQ reaching new heights to exploring the impact of government shutdowns on military paychecks, this episode provides an insightful overview of the market dynamics. With expert Barry Kite providing additional commentary, the discussion sheds light on the paused market and the anticipation of the upcoming earnings season.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Friday. It is the 10-10-25 edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst and CFP certified financial planner. We're off to a pretty good start here on this Friday. The Dow up 111 points right now. That puts it at 46,470. We have the NASDAQ up 47 points. We have cleared that 23,000 elevation. We're now at 23,072 feet on the NASDAQ. While the S&P 500, I believe, is hitting a new high today. It's up 12 points to 6,746. Small caps up a half a percent right now. The bond market is behaving well. A little rally going on there, driving interest rates down to 4.10%. So we're down four basis points from yesterday. And gold had a one-day sell-off. It's snapping back some today. It's up 60 basis points. It was above $4,000 again this morning, and now it's dropped below it a little bit. It's at $3,996 per ounce. And Bitcoin is down $147 to $121,991. So welcome to today's Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only money management and financial planning firm. And I'm here with Barry Kydar, Chartered Financial Analyst and CFP. And we had a little bit of a downdraft in the market yesterday. Market, you know, look, the earning season starts here. uh this coming week so i think maybe the market's in a pause mode the market would also like to see the government shutdown come to an end so our boys over in the military the military uh serving our country get their paychecks The funny thing that I saw today, Barry, was they're going to bring back some people that work for the Bureau of Labor Statistics so they can get the CPI numbers next week. Well, that's good. Yeah, we'll maybe get some weekly jobless claims at the same time. But it is kind of interesting that the CPI seems to be more important than our military right now. Oh, we've got to get those numbers. We can't live without the CPI numbers. The Army, the Navy, the Marines, the Air Force. What the heck? They can go without a paycheck. But I hope we can get that thing resolved here sooner rather than later. Hopefully, I would like to see it done today. So those paychecks go out next week.
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Yeah, I was talking to a guy yesterday who was a veteran of the Vietnam War, and he's had over 500 jumps, I think, to his name, and also crashed a couple of Huey helicopters along the way. But, yeah, he had some interesting thoughts about if they should get paid or not, just put it that way.
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I don't have any jumps to my name, but several downdrafts in the market in my 25 years, and only two crashes, the crash of 2000 and the crash of 2008-09. When will the next one be, 2026, 2027? I don't know. We take it a day at a time, and we keep our eyes open, and we stay alert. And we stay informed. Well, they're narrowing down the list for the replacement for Jerome Powell. And I see that Jerome Powell's not on the list at all. He's not coming back. Besant has pared down the list of candidates for Federal Reserve Chair to five. From 11, I don't see my name on the list either. Two current Fed governors, Vice Chair Michelle Bowman and Christopher Waller are on the shorter list, along with Kevin Hassett, Fed Governor Kevin Warsh. And BlackRock Chief Investment Officer Rick Reeder. Now, I wouldn't mind seeing somebody from our industry in that position. But anyways, we've pared that down from 11 down to 5. And, you know, that's got to make Jerome Powell even grumpier than ever. We'll see what he does at the next Fed meeting. European defense stocks, which have led the market this year, they've done very well. We've become familiar with a lot of names like Leonardo and Rheinmetall and BAE Systems and Kongsberg and Henstolt, etc. They sold off because of the de-escalation in the Middle East. But to me, the real issue is Russia. and Putin and them upping their budgets big time from 2% to 5% so that they can protect themselves from the menace in Moscow. I still think those stocks are a little bit frothy here, but they are falling. That has been one of the leading sectors in the world this year. Who would have ever guessed it? European defense stocks, names most of us have never heard of. Most of them trade on the pink sheets, but they do trade. I mean, you can buy and sell them in your Robinhood account. I see we do a little bailout for Argentina. Now, I think if there was a communist leader in Argentina or a left-leaning leader, I don't think we would have bailed them out. But since it's a friend of the Trump administration, Elvis Presley Jr. down there running the Argentinian chainsaw with the chainsaw, the U.S. Treasury has finalized a $20 billion currency swap, meaning we bought $20 billion worth of Argentina pesos. Those things can expire worthless, Barry. They have done that in the past.
SPEAKER 06 :
Talk about one country that's had a bunch of monetary issues over the years. Certainly Argentina is the poster child for that over the years. Maybe we can help pull them out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Besant defends the move, saying they've got strong economic fundamentals, including structural changes that are underway that will generate significant dollar-denominated exports. And foreign exchange reserves, Besson posted on X. And it's only $30 billion.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, what would we say the deficit's up to now? $30 plus trillion?
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, NVIDIA goes up $30 billion in a day. In a few hours, it can go up $30 billion. In an appearance on Fox News, Besson insisted that the actions were not a bailout. Well, they are taxpayer monies. He says there's no money being transferred. They're just buying some Argentina currency to prop it up to keep it from crashing once again. You know, now this Schwarzman over at Blackstone, he's another guy I listen to. He also is a very... Smarter than me, I can tell you that. And he says that the scale of spending on artificial intelligence data centers is so stunning that it's powering the U.S. economy. Now there's a good side and there's a bad side to that. Yes, there's this sugar high and data centers are being built and all of the players downstream are being lifted. It's lifting all boats and the nuclear stocks have come into play because they need energy. But what happens when that slows down? If that's holding up the economy, what is there when that slows down? And what about the rest of the companies out there in the economy? What about the oil sector? What about the steel sector? What about the building sector? You know, what about health care? What about pharmaceuticals? AI is kind of like Atlas shrugs, right, holding up the whole world right now, the world economy. He says, though, that the AI cap expenditure boom will continue for some time, he said in a fireside chat at a conference hosted by the Federal Reserve. I guess that's in their palatial new quarters there in Washington, D.C., reflecting how the U.S. economy is a lot different from other places in the world, except maybe for China, he added. You know, Europe really has not participated in this. I mean, they're still chasing solar and wind and basically the same things that they've done in the past. and haven't really gotten caught up in the AI boom. Elsewhere in the discussion, Schwarzman noted that office market remains one of the few areas of real estate still in tough shape. yeah you know what i mean i was there on wall street in the early two thousands when uh... you know you could hardly walk on the streets at lunchtime and grand central station was grand central station i mean it was it was man the buzz on wall street and i would add the buzz over here on the in the west coast uh... in the san francisco bay area i remember visiting the financial center many times In the early 2000s, and the line out the door at Starbucks or for a breakfast burrito or over at the German restaurant, the German Hofbrauhaus after the market closed, that was quite the buzz. It ain't like that anymore. Now we have lunch at home. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. I guess if we get in a war, Barry, we can helmet up the Bureau of Labor Statistics and send them into war. Since they're the only ones getting a paycheck from the federal government, I just find that funny that the inflation numbers are more important. Boots on the ground, so to call, I guess.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, and, you know, when Jeff sent us the list of, you know, who gets paid and who, you know, what are considered what and under what kind of appropriations bill. Like, to me, I mean, can't we, I mean, shouldn't, I mean, of all the people to fall under what Something where they should get paid, right? I mean, shouldn't the military be at the top?
SPEAKER 05 :
You would think so, but let's get something done there today. Now, Rare Earth, back in the news once again. And I did find another Rare Earth stock. It somehow was not in my app. And I'll mention that here in a minute. But why is rare earth so important? China tightened their rare earth export rules yesterday. Of course, this is ahead of the meeting later this month in South Korea between Xi and Trump. They're playing their card. That's kind of their ace in the hole. And ours seems to be the NVIDIA chips card. Rare earth minerals are crucial for electric vehicles because they are essential components in the powerful and efficient magnets used within EV propulsion motors. What would we do without those magnets? The magnets typically composed of neodymium slash iron slash boron, and that's N-D-F-E-B. a barrier from the old chemistry charts, or samarium cobalt, which is SMCO. They're the key to maximizing motor performance because they provide high energy efficiency. for compact size, strong torque, which are all attributes vital for modern EV drive trains. So 60% of the world's mined minerals come from China, but 90% of the processing capacity comes from China. So here we go again. We've got another rare earth shortage, and they're scrambling. Now, there's a rare earth ETF. There's two of them.
SPEAKER 06 :
One just came out, you said, right?
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REMX. REMX is by our friends at VanEck. You know, they must call me twice a week because I can see it on my phone, you know, ID of VanEck trying to get a hold of me to tell me about their latest fund. The other one is Global Lithium Battery and Tech ETF. I know, actually, I think she still does it, the portfolio manager for that out in San Diego. And that symbol is lit, L-I-T. Originally it was focused on lithium. Right. But now it's also focused on rare earths. And, you know, one of the stocks that I discovered that wasn't in my app, M-E-T-C. Let's look up M-E-T-C together, boys and girls. We've got, it's Ramico, Ramico Resources. Now, I've heard of Ramico before. They're a coal mining company, actually headquartered in Lexington, Kentucky. where some rare horse genes come from, right? Some of the best studs in the world and mares in the world are housed there in Lexington and usually produce some top runners every year. Ramico develops metallurgical coal in west and southwestern Virginia and southwestern Pennsylvania, but they also... I've been saying this and... We own a coal stock that's up 140% since we bought it. That's BTU, which is Peabody Energy. They're finding rare earth in some of these coal mines. The canary in the coal mine, I guess. Ramico symbol is M-E-T-C. It's $3.2 billion in market cap all of a sudden. This thing was $6 in April, and now it's $48. It's up eightfold since April.
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Here's kind of the fervor that you've been talking about in these parts of the market. If you just look at a chart and then look at the volume at the bottom, where basically no volume, not much volume at all.
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Coal mining was kind of going out. Right? Yeah, look at the volume. Coal mining was a dead industry until Trump came in in January and said, at least we're going to keep the coal going until we have the bridge to nuclear. and they are not disabling the coal plants anymore like they were. Now, they've disabled many in Europe, especially in Germany, because of their push over there for climate change and this and that. So anyways, all of a sudden the coal stocks are waking up because all of a sudden they're vital once again, the coal part of it, and the rare earth part of it now is like... icing on the cake. Big time icing on the cake.
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Well, when you said they're finding, what, rare earth in the mines that they used to get coal from, right?
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Now, okay. Now, my wife and I watched two nights. It took us two nights to watch it. We watched the interview with with Tucker Carlson and this Flynn. I don't know his first name, David maybe, Greg Flynn. His thesis is that blockchain is 666 in chapter 13 in Revelations. And he explains his thesis behind it. But in reality, he says there will come a time when you'll have to register on the blockchain or you won't be able to buy or sell, which is also in Revelations 13. At some point in time, unless you get the mark of the beast, and he's saying that blockchain is the mark of the beast. Now, along these lines, I see today this company called 8Co. The symbol ORBS. This is all interesting stuff. It could be BS. I don't know. But ORBS stock is surging as the authentication technology company. announced the launch of a new pilot program focused on advancing AI authentication for the enterprise. In other words, you have to get into it. And he says within a couple of years or maybe sooner, you won't be able to buy on Amazon and other places unless you have signed up on the blockchain. And have, like, you know on Twitter how you have to have verified?
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You have to be verified. So I guess that's a new way to verify, I guess, your identity or who's on the other end of the computer.
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Exactly, 100%. Conrad Flynn, by the way. Conrad, yes. And he has a sub stack called the Conrad Effect. His grandfather was Robert Conrad, the actor, who was kind of a ladies' man, if I remember right, associated with a lot of the babes of the day. And he was in the Wild Wild West and other movies and whatnot. But that's a fascinating interview. And basically his thesis is the same people behind the satanic occult in rock and roll are now behind A.I. Okay? And I also listened to an interview that you should listen to between Tucker Carlson and Sam Altman. Very interesting stuff. If nothing else, it's entertaining. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show where we're continuing to hit new highs in the market for now.
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And, of course, we've talked all week about the debate raging out there Bubble, no bubble. If you listen to Jensen Wang, it's not a bubble. If you listen to the International Monetary Fund, it is a bubble. If you listen to Goldman Sachs, there may be some high valuations right now, but you can't compare this to 2000. I just look at numbers, okay, because I know everybody's got a little bit of a jaded, you know, they've got their own agenda to push. I just look at the valuations every weekend, which I'll be doing again this weekend. I just looked at the simple common denominator. What's the PE ratio today of the NASDAQ or the S&P 500 versus the PE ratio back in the year 2000? And can you justify a higher PE ratio? You know, a PE ratio, Barry, when all is said and done, it's how many years it takes you to get back your investment, right? If you're trading at 20 times earnings and you buy that company, it's going to take you 20 years to make back what you paid for the company in earnings, right? Right. So it's pretty simple. I mean, are you going to buy a laundromat downtown at 20 times earnings that you'll break even after 20 years? No. Yes, if you sprinkle in 10% growth and you're good at marketing or acquisitions or whatever, that's a whole other thing. But still the common denominator in the market to compare 2025 with 2000, and I also go back and look at the sugar high year of 2021 because that's the last time we had extreme multiples. I think it's probably the most important numbers to look at and use as comparison as where we're trading at today versus where we were trading at back then. And you can justify it all you want or rationalize it away, which I saw in the year 2000. They rationalized it away until finally you couldn't rationalize it as the market started to sink. And before it was over, the NASDAQ was down 79%. That was the dot-com bubble. bursting so anyways we always have that i'm glad to have had that experience to have witnessed it and to see the liars out there that tried to convince me that valuations don't matter anymore those guys are not in the business anymore they're long gone so valuations do matter and i pay very very heavy attention to valuations on a daily basis now talk about a sign of the times Number one, I told you I went to the No Nukes concert. I drove home from college back in the year 20, let's see, 1977 to watch the No Nukes concert at the San Diego Sports Arena. And I also remember around that time that they were starving in Ethiopia in the U2 stadium. There won't be snow for Christmas in Africa. Feed the world. It was feed the world back then. Now listen to this. Bill Gates considers ways to expand access to Wegovy and Mongero in low-income countries. So now we have the opposite problem. We're not worried about starvation anymore. these days, we're worried about obesity. So I guess feeding the world worked. We fed them too much, and now the Gates Foundation, and I've thought about that. You know, I would like to start a little foundation and help people that can't lose weight because I've seen it happen with people, and I've seen the change that it's made to their life. That's kind of one of my things, how I could help the world. But Bill Gates is taking it on in a very big way. to try to make weight loss drugs, not rice, not wheat, not soybeans. No, here's a little vial of Novo Nordisk Wagovi or Eli Lilly's Monchero to help you. Lose weight. Okay. Signs of the times.
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They must have decent refrigeration, too. I mean, you've got to keep that stuff cold.
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You've got to ship it cold in a cold pack until they come up with the pill. Now, I've mentioned this before. Every day I get emails from some or another provider of private debt. You sent a couple of them over yesterday. Yes, so I just thought I would mention this one. Hi, Bill. I had a few minutes and was hoping to connect regarding our infrastructure debt offering, VCRDX. So I'm thinking it's a mutual fund with those symbols, okay? It's currently yielding over 10%.
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10%.
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Now, you hear me talk about where the world is at in the bond market today. We're in the high fours. for quality you get up around seven and you're looking at you know uh... steel company that's losing money you get up around ten percent and you're like really out there on a limb uh... some uranium company hoping to to strike it rich in kazakhstan i mean you're really out there but here's a fund that's yielding over ten percent now your antenna should go up We would like to get in touch regarding the unique benefits and historically low default environment found in this space. So in other words, they're proposing that private infrastructure debt has a historically low default environment. I don't want any defaults. I don't want any chance of a default myself. I want to buy a bond that I know the company's going to be there seven years from now when the bond comes due. But what happens when the infrastructure starts to slow down I don't know how long this paper is there floating, Barry. Maybe I'll have you talk to him. It's a company out of Denver, which was known for the penny stocks. Salt Lake and Denver were the two cities that were known for penny stock scams. But I just want to tell you, this stuff is being gobbled up. by registered investment advisory firms, especially the big ones. And not only that, I mean, I heard the CEO of Franklin, Franklin in the Bay Area, Franklin Templeton Mutual Funds, saying that this is the hottest thing in the market right now is private debt. And he goes on to say, Bill, we don't want to waste your time. Let me know in coming weeks when connecting via Zoom or a conference call works for you. Have a great week. Now, this is not one that I've got received. I get them almost on a daily basis. And I don't believe that this is going to end well. Barry, is there not enough public debt in the world to invest in that we need to go a step further in the risk ladder and invest in private debt?
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Yeah, I mean, what we've got going on here is, number one, banks, I mean, Frankly, banks have kind of ceased to be banks as much in terms of the lending perspective as they used to be, right, particularly after 08, 09. You know, they've got to just think about a mortgage. You've got to fit in a perfect little box and this and that, right, to get the, you know. debt nowadays. So you've got these other areas of formats of debt, whether it was the Apollos of the world that have really built those lending institutions. The problem is What they want is liquidity. There is no liquidity. There's no liquidity for them, but the way they're selling this stuff to us and to investors, they're creating liquidity for themselves.
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You can get 5% out of it. That's what you're limited to. In other words, it's not liquid. Your money is tied up. If you read the fine print here, It does say that an investment in the fund, which isn't publicly traded, otherwise you could sell at any time. They give it these symbols like it's, oh, you can sell at any time like a mutual fund. No, that's not true. An investment in the fund involves a high degree of risk and should be considered speculative. The fund intends to operate as a non-diversified fund under the Investment Company Act of 1940. But the biggest problem is liquidity is very limited. basically what they could do is pay you 10%. This is what Bernie Madoff did. Now, I'm not saying that this is one step above that, okay? I mean, he was paying 10% a year guaranteed, or was it 1% a month? I think it was 1% a month. You were getting back your own money. It was a Ponzi scheme. I'm not saying this is a Ponzi scheme, but I would never, ever... Invest in private debt. Okay, and I put this in the same, why do we need to have private REITs? Because they create a product that everybody makes money off of. except the little guy, the investor, who gets left holding the bag in the end after paying giant commissions, huge management fees, and has no liquidity at the end of the day. I was a victim of that in the late 70s, early 80s. I don't like it. It's not going to end well. We'll be right back.
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Go where you want to go, do what you want to do. And whoever you want to be, gotta go where you want to go, do what you want to do.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Let's just take a look inside the indexes and see what's driving the market here today. We'll take a look inside the S&P 500. You know, there's some bad sectors that are not participating at all. I see that oil is down another 1.7%. That's a sector that has just been horrible today. this year but your big oil I mean I look at a few of them every day like Chevron and BP because they're proxies for the entire sector and that just continues to be a very very poor sector to be invested in here in the year nuclear has run circles lapped it several times here during 2000 so being in the right places at the right time is very very important and avoiding the dogs and the sectors that aren't performing. And they do change. It's called sector rotation. And it does take place all the time in the market. And sometimes the sector rotation, it can set for quite some time and be in the same place. I think AI and semiconductors and software, even though they got whacked back in March of this year, They've pretty much led the market. Precious metals have joined in and led the market here this year in 2025. When will the end come to this current cycle that we're in? Well, that's where I use the tool that I invented, the Best Stocks Now app, to show me every weekend, every Saturday morning when it's quiet and the market's closed, where the leading asset classes are. You talk about asset allocation. The common way of doing it on Wall Street is to base it on your age and asset allocate accordingly. 60, 40, 70, 30 with the 70, the high number or the first number being your age and how much you should have exposure to bond funds, which have performed miserably. over the years very poorly one about two percent years what bond funds have averaged over the last decade you can look it up okay uh... asset allocation what are the asset classes that you have to choose from well there's real estate obviously and there's plenty of real estate in the stock market there's REITs uh... etc REIT mortgages uh... housing companies There's obviously U.S. stocks. There's European stocks. There's Asian stocks. There's precious metals, which is a very important asset class. It's the leading asset class here in 2025. There's then, of course, the massive debt market, the bond market, which has not done that well here in 2025. The returns overall on the bond funds, maybe they're the best they've been in a while. But you're still looking at 3% or 4% return, and that includes the coupons that you receive. The interest you receive on those bonds has not been a very good year for bonds. So if you're in one of the traditional asset allocations, you're 72 years old, and over at the wire house firm ABC, they got you in 72% bond funds, you're lagging in the overall market very badly. here in 2025 because there's been a very stark market difference between the return of bonds and the return of stocks this year. Now, when the market goes down 30% or 35%, you'll say, see, I'm glad I'm in the bond market. I only went down 2%, right? Well, you know what? That's why I believe in more of a tactical approach to asset allocation. And the first thing in my app that I rank on a daily basis, but I update it every week in the newsletter, is what are the leading asset classes? So I know how to be allocated right now. we have a heavy allocation this year to two asset classes basically and that's equities and precious metals we do have our alternative investment for folks for safe money is just buying individual bonds in a bond fund but not a bond fund it doesn't trade like a bond fund you hold those individual bonds to maturity That's a whole different animal, and that's designed to give you the returns that you're signed up for to begin with. When you purchase the bond. Yeah, you know the coupon, you know the duration, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so then from the asset allocation, so obviously equities are way the best one to be allocated in. Second, precious metals are number one. Number two, but now you've got to break down the market, number one, by countries. Europe's had a terrific year. China's had a terrific year, better than the U.S., but the U.S. has done okay. And then you break it down into sectors even further. Sector allocation. and the common way they do it on wall street if you've got a thirty percent uh... you're seventy years old you should have thirty percent in stocks well they they spread you out amongst all of the sectors out there well we don't have any exposure to the lagging sectors the railroads the airlines the transportations uh... the energy the oil and gas stocks uh... the health care has been a horrible sector pharmaceuticals have not been very good but they would have you in all of those sectors we're more tactical when it comes to sectors okay i break the market down into about 70 sectors and then find the best stocks within those leading sectors and then watch for the rotation to come which it eventually will to move the allocations around a little bit so it it's much more active than passive the other method i'm mentioning is a passive method it's very easy to manage a passive method of investing you tweak it once a quarter based on age and maybe a little bit of tactical which they don't do much of anymore. But, you know, we just do things a little bit differently, and I think that separates us from the rest, and that's why we're not a big part of the rest out there. We're a little bit unique in what we do, and I guess we're kind of a dying breed, although I see kind of a move back to it, more active investing. here over the last few years. All of a sudden, Vanguard has active ETFs and active funds. Jumped on board. Yes, they're finally jumping on board. So if you'd like to make an appointment with us at Gundersen Capital Management via Zoom or via email, GundersenCapital.com or 855-611-BEST. If you'd like to get the newsletter coming to you this weekend, Four free weeks and I send out my alerts during the day and you get access to the powerful Best Docs Now app that I invented for my own use and use every single day. I absolutely rely on that and then that human touch that comes in to make those final decisions. GundersenCapital.com or 855-611-BEST. Have a great day. 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Angie Austin brings you stories of resilience and inspiration in this episode of The Good News. Join Angie and Dr. Cheryl Lentz as they explore the power of mindset in overcoming life's challenges, from managing work-life balance to embracing new experiences. Discover the importance of asking for help and how it can be a sign of strength rather than weakness.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hello there, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News along with the academic entrepreneur, Dr. Cheryl Lentz. Hey, Cheryl.
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Hey, it is so good to talk to you. It's been a few weeks in there. Yes. Life just happens. I think somebody pushed the accelerated button somewhere, you know?
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Yes. I'm just telling my girlfriend who does not have children. I said, I feel like a whole new world has opened up for me because I'm traveling a lot and doing a lot of things with my friends that I used to travel with in my twenties and early thirties. And I said to her, you don't even know what a full-time job it was to have three kids in year round sports. When I was driving them to practices, the swim meets took all day. We'd have to be like you know timers at the swim meet you'd get up at like 5 30 in the morning set up a tent outside the pool and you'd be there to like three or four in the afternoon and then you know just going to baseball practices and sitting they were so far but i'd sit in like a parking lot you know for a few hours while one kid was in there or like dance class if they were too far away you just sit in your car you know and uh i just it was like a full-time job so like a whole new world is opening up to me and you talked about a book the last time we talked and a mindset so we're going to talk about how A student asks you about this and then how you put this mindset into your own life. So let's start there.
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That's cool in there. Yes, I'm teaching a mentoring and coaching class right now. And a lot of it is teaching them when to ask for help because the the result at the end of each week is they take an idea of. Now that you're telling us, we differentiate between coaching, which is skill set, mentoring, which is mindset. And so we're looking at how might you have benefited from this. And a lot of them are trying to get over the fact that, well, gee, you know what, asking for help is kind of a sign of weakness. And I'm like, no, it's not. It's kind of a sign of strength because you want to sit on the sidelines and watch everybody be successful. The reason they're being successful is they're willing to open their mouth and take the shot and talk to people, but they're doing it with a calculated risk, right? They're not willing to, for example, I was on the phone with one of my students in Dubai today, and he's thinking of starting a business. He knows that I, as faculty, have had a business for 15 years, and he's willing to risk being vulnerable to ask me questions about his business that he wants to start versus having the regret going, I can't go to my grave not knowing that I tried to do this, and I've been trying to do this for years, but I'm too afraid of it. Now your class is giving me inspiration that going, I can't sit on the sidelines. I'm not going to do it right 100%, but I'm also not going to be able to do it at all if I don't do it at all. And I'm like, there you go.
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Yeah, I just love the way that you're putting it into action as well, because you've been dealing with some health issues. And then prior to that, you had your dog, Gracie, your heart dog, that you had to nurse through many years of, you know, some medical issues. And then you had told me, you know, I'm going to travel then, you know, when I don't have Gracie anymore, because she took up so much of your time and you didn't want to leave her with anyone. Yeah. And then you told me it's more than just that you don't have Gracie right now that, um, you want to keep living your life to the fullest, even if it's not an optimal situation. And just to kind of add a little side note to that, before you explain what we're talking about with my mother and my mother-in-law, my mom has had difficulty walking really since she was in her fifties. And, um, She had bad knees and I got those replaced. I thought, oh, she'd be a great walker after that. Well, she's in her 80s now. And even after the knee surgery, she wasn't. And I've always admired that my mom, I have a wheelchair for her that travels. I have a walker for her that you can sit in. I have an old school walker that's really light for her to use in the house. I have a four prong cane and a regular cane. And with the wheelchair, that was a new thing. But she can walk behind it like a walker. And then when she gets tired, she can sit and I can push her. So we have every tool to help her get up. Well, my mother-in-law, on the other hand, will not use anything. And I can tell that she limits herself and doesn't go to certain things because she has pain in her knee and she has difficulty walking. So she's made her world smaller. Whereas if she'd use a walker or a cane, she could go a lot more places. But she thinks it makes her look old. But I think it makes you look old to be limping around everywhere and have all of your family members and friends be worried that you're going to fall and break a hip. It doesn't make you look old to get some help because a lot of people at various ages need help with a cane temporarily or a walker or maybe not temporarily. But I love it when people have the courage to just use it and get out there and live your life. So explain your mindset on traveling and what's going on without, you know, don't give any more info than you feel comfortable giving.
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No, I understand that. And I have no secrets. That's the whole point of learning to be vulnerable in there. But my dog, her last nine months of her life were seizures. And so I had to be around the clock with her medication. And so I vowed that I wasn't going to replace her as a dog, even though I've had dogs for 20 years, simply because I wanted the freedom to be able to go out and do things. Then, unfortunately, I had a medical kind of a to-do thing that I'm working through. And there's a sense of urgency. And I think I've had it since COVID of a I'm not getting any younger. And my point is life happens to you, not for you. And you have to decide what you want to do with it. And these tools that I have... I'm currently in Albuquerque at International Balloon Fiesta. I'm in a house with friends because I used to live up here. And I came and because it's a nighttime event, both we went for the evening night glow and we went for the mass ascension, I used a wheelchair as a walker because I didn't bring mine with me and I'm using one temporarily. And here's the choice. You can either sit home and whine about it or you can use the walker and be there. I got to be there, and nobody made any big deal other than, you know, we got a few advantages because I have my ADA temporary certificate. So we got to park a little closer, and everybody else got to take advantage of it. And we got to be there as a family group together. And it was wonderful that I would have missed that had I not been willing to not bring the walker. And it just gave me a little stability. And, yes, I could sit when I needed it. Other people could sit when we needed it. We used it as a toilet. Nobody made a big deal about it. But the point is, I was there and I'm now still here and I don't get to go on Wednesday. And I've been able to come back and do a Broadway musical a couple of weeks ago. I'm going out to a football game in a couple of weeks in Seattle. I'm no longer willing to wait. And the reason is the why. It's because too many people around me are dying and too many people around me are willing to sit home and allow life to happen to them. And I'm more of the mindset life will happen to me. And if I have to be in a wheelchair when it does, I'd so be it. But I'm not going to stay home and miss it. That's my mindset.
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You know, and you told me, like, I didn't realize that you were, you know, sometimes using a walker wheelchair, not necessarily around the house, but, like, when you're out for a while. Like, my mom doesn't use them here, but when she's out for a while, it's great to have that backup and to be able to sit down or have something to just lean on. Especially in crowds. Like, she gets knocked around so much. I'm like, Mom, it's not safe to go to a basketball game or – you know, a swim meet or anything like that, where people are going to bump into you and knock you over. My aunt is, she walks three miles a day and has her entire life. She's in her mid nineties now, and she just fell and broke her hip now because she's been walking three miles a day for, I mean, the entire time I've, I can't remember when she didn't walk three miles a day. And so she's lived longer than all of her siblings because of this activity that she's involved in. And I don't – we'll see what happens. If still in her mid-90s, she could survive a broken hip because that's usually not the norm. So I'll report back on that one. But when I was going to come visit you, which I'm still going to do, but it didn't work out this last time, you kind of forewarned me. You said – Hey, just so you're not freaked out, I do use bring a walker so I have a place to rest or this, that, and the other because I'm dealing with some medical issues right now. And I'm just so proud of you. I would say 50% of people would rather stay home than have strangers see them with a walker or a cane because they're afraid it'll make them feel old. Same thing with hearing aids. Like, really? You're going to stop living life because you're worried strangers might think you're five years older than you look?
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Isn't it amazing? We've placed so much stock into people we know. And I'm thinking, here's my philosophy. If you don't pay your bills, you don't get a vote. I'm the one that matters. You're not the one that's paying – remember in college, he who pays the bills, right? Your parents paid your college. They have some say in some of that because they're footing the bill. I pay my own bills, and so I get the choice. And I'm just not one of those that – I use it sometimes. Not around the house. I do go kayaking, but I have to limit certain things, and so I've adjusted it. But I'd rather adjust it and have the amazing things that I'm going around and seeing stuff – Rather than sitting home and whining about it or saying, oh, I wish I could have. So do it in a wheelchair. You might not do it exactly. I mean, I'm not dancing the Irish jig these days. But I was able to experience one of the most monumental things here in Albuquerque that people only dream about. And I had the courage to come. And to me, it's not courage. It's having friends that you trust. that just in case they just do a little extra for you but if I can be more self-sufficient then they don't have to worry about me because now I'm there and I'm part of it and I don't have to feel bad at Christmas vacations or or family events when we're all talking about it and they're like oh you remember the trip and I wasn't there I want to be there so I can have those memories and I'm not willing not to be so it really is more of a mind shift and if you have the tools why not
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I love that. And would you please tell us, I love balloon festivals and I've been to a few, but you're at like. I think the world's best, right? I mean, isn't it known as like one of the best in the world? Okay, so tell us what it is. Talk about the Ascension. I want to know about this drone show because I haven't seen one of those yet. So tell us where you are and what this event is all about.
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Okay, I am in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and it's called the International Balloon Fiesta. And while there are fiestas all over the world, this is the largest and the only one of its kind because of a unique geographic location. atmospheric thing that happens because of the mountains. It's called the Albuquerque box, where balloons can literally, if the box is in place, take off and land exactly where they started from. It's amazing. So they have, when I was first here years ago, because I used to live here, they had over 1,200 balloons. I think we had the equivalent of that last night. So the glow on Saturday night, because I got here on Saturday, is that all of the balloons tether on the field. They just light them up. And you have a huge celebration. And we had, I don't know, at least 100 balloons there. And they light them up and they do flicker burns and special shapes. And you can go right up to the basket and talk to everybody. It's this huge balloon fiesta park. I mean, we're talking millions of people are here. I think their city doubles in size for the first 10 days. The mass ascension was we all get up at, you know, 4 in the morning, if not earlier, and you make it down here, and they have dawn patrol. That means they have 13 balloons that go up to see how the atmosphere is as the sun's coming up. And then they put them off the field in waves. We must have had more than 1,000 balloons in special shapes from Smokey the Bear to Yoda and Darth Vader. And with all of the music and the food and the people and the weather, it was gorgeous. It went from 45 degrees to 85 degrees in the span of three hours. They do this for 10 days, and you try to have it because sometimes the weather, so for the night glow, for example, they had to put off weather alert because the winds were a little out of limit. But once we got there, they had jumpers originally that were going to jump from a plane at night with sparklers and pyroglyphics and all that kind of stuff, but they couldn't do it because the winds were out of limit. they still did the drone show. And the drone show was that you have literally over 100 drones that make pictures in the sky. And then when the drone show was over, then we had the fireworks. And I'll tell you, the fireworks are better than anything I've seen at Disney. Sorry, boys, but it was phenomenal that they had. And so all of these ways to celebrate light and and they have all kinds of competitions. We were looking at, you know, buying – we have breakfast burritos because there's certain food that I like from Albuquerque. So you get yourself a breakfast burrito and you see hundreds of balloons. It's like being in a snow globe. So, yes, the first two weekends in Albuquerque, every year they've been doing this for – I think this is the 53rd International Balloon Fiesta. And so it's something you have to experience. Yes, you can watch it online and streaming on the weekends with KOB.com and all of that. But being here with people from around the world that you can share such an experience of literally hundreds of balloons going up around you and having lived here. Right now, I get up this morning and I'm staying at my friend's house in Albuquerque. I went outside this morning when she was telling me she was driving to work. And the balloons are just around town, and they're going over the house. They feel like I've entered the Wizard of Oz. It's absolutely amazing. You've got to come visit.
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Now, I've seen it many times and thought about it. Like you did, you've got to plan ahead. You've got to book it. You've got to get there. You've got friends to stay with. If you don't have that, you've got to get your hotel. So you really have to plan ahead. But this is definitely one of those bucket list items. Absolutely. The drone show, I've never seen one of those. It lights up. Does it look like fireworks? What does it look like?
SPEAKER 04 :
It does look like fireworks, but without all of the pyrotechnics and the smoke and stuff like that. I'll send you a video of it. All it is is – Do you remember what light bright used to look like? And you would put the screen that would have – this is moving light bright in the sky. And then you go up in there, and it creates pictures. It was making coffee cups and coffee that would pour into the cup, and it would have – The sponsors, because they were sponsoring it in there, but you would see things about masks. They had a different drone show every dark night. For mass ascension in the mornings as the sun's coming up. They're looking for ways to keep people entertaining while you're waiting for atmospheric conditions. When they do mass ascension, they raise the flag and we sing the national anthem as the sun is just brimming over. Then they do all kinds of stuff. The drone show is something I've seen at University of Illinois. I've done it at a few of their events. They do it at They've done it at the Olympics. They've done it at a lot of sporting events in the middle thing, and it's just the coolest thing. These are just itty-bitty drones with lights on them that they form together, and they make moving pictures in the sky.
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Oh, you've got to send me the video of that. Absolutely. All right, Cheryl, your website? DrCherylLenz.com. Thank you, friend. You betcha.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we hear about it in the news all the time. Unfortunately, massive wildfires, the Eaton and Palisades wildfires in L.A. in January. You know, I worked at NBC for many years there. So I know so many people that live in that neighborhood. I was right down the road. And then here, you know, the 2021 marshall fire in colorado where i'm living now and then the lahaina fire in maui what was it like 23 and it's just unbelievable how many of these fires we have now and how quickly they spread but the good news is today we are learning how to prepare our homes and our finances for wildfires and we're talking science back action steps to help prevent ember ignition and why it's important to contact your insurer to make sure you have the right coverage so you could actually have another house if you did lose one in a fire. Joining us are two experts in the area, Karen Collins, Vice President at American Property Casualty Insurance, and Andy Cope, Chief Engineer at the Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety. Welcome to both of you. Thanks. Great to be here. You are welcome. All right. So this is definitely something that I think a fair amount about, you know, due to where I live right now. So, Karen, let's just start with you and talk about how to prevent underinsurance and ensure your finances are protected before you have a problem with a wildfire.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, under insurance has been a challenge across the U.S. with the surge in inflation that we've seen since the COVID-19 pandemic. We saw that, unfortunately, with the Marshall Fire right at those peak years. But you can take steps to protect against under insurance. uh make sure that you're doing an annual insurance checkup to go over your coverages call your agent or insurance company and talk about your policy limits and your coverage do it at least annually you want to make sure the policy reflects the right square footage and materials of your home if you've done any upgrades since like kobe for example kitchen upgrades, whatever it might be. Make sure that's included and reflected. There's other optional coverages that can also help in protecting against under insurance. We are seeing that demand surge. So we have inflation that's roughly 40% higher now for rebuilding than it was at the beginning of the pandemic. Those costs can go up even higher from demand surge when there's a disaster because everyone's fighting over those same materials or construction labor. So Things like extended replacement cost coverage. That'll give you an additional layer of financial coverage to absorb those demand surge costs. In Colorado, we're seeing changes like requirements for solar panels. So if you have to comply with a newer code, increase your ordinance and law coverage, which will give you additional financial benefits. These additional living expenses are also significant where they might extend from beyond just a year to two or three years as you're out of your home. So talk about maybe higher coverage limits for additional living expenses also to absorb some of that. And then also make sure you know what your policy covers. There's a difference. There's replacement cost coverage. that will replace all your items at current market price and then there's also actual cash value that takes depreciation into account and pays less for older items so knowing the difference in what you have before the event is really important two other quick tips just make sure that if you've got loved ones with paid off homes make sure they continue to maintain that homeowners insurance policy. So they're not caught with a way to rebuild without a way to rebuild. And then also our renters in Colorado and the LA area, we have a lot of renters in these regions, but they can lose everything in a fire just like homeowners. And so, Talk to your company about getting a runner's policy that's very affordable and usually can be bundled with your auto policy, but they'll give you financial benefits for all your personal belongings inside the home and also that additional living expense benefits and other coverage benefits. So these are really helpful to address, you know, how you can financially withstand it and recover after these events.
SPEAKER 06 :
One of our renters in Boulder, Colorado, which is right in the foothills, she just got a policy. One of the kids did. And you're right. They're very inexpensive. And we had to do a bunch of fire stuff related to this rental home because it's so close to the mountains and all the trees. And You know, the location of what you're talking about. I'm going to ask you about embers. I've got friends in Altadena, you know, where the Eaton fire was. And I was watching a woman right down the street from my girlfriend's house and they were trying to keep embers from burning their home. Right. And my husband said, oh, my gosh, like it's almost an impossible task because. they were running, and then they had a hose, and there was an ember there, and then there was one there, and then one was in the palm tree, and it was like insanity trying to catch up with the embers. So what can they do to make the home more ember-resistant? Because that seems to be a big issue in these fires where the homes are so close.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is absolutely the biggest issue. When things are burning, the wind-borne embers, that's what's It spreads those spot fires to the neighborhoods and to all other pieces of the neighborhood. And it was a primary cause. Once a home gets burning, then those embers spread to the whole rest of the neighborhood. So there are a couple of key things that you can do to make your home resistant to those embers. First and foremost, you want to have a Class A roof. Now, the good news is most of the roofing is Class A, metal, tile, asphalt shingles. If you've got a wood shake roof, you need to think about would it be time to replace that wood shake roof to make sure you have the roof that's noncombustible. And no matter what type of roof you have, you need to keep it free from all those leaves and things like that that want to be on the roof. That stuff is just tinder. So make sure you're keeping your roof clear. Second thing people want to do, is check on those vents, the vents to the attic and the vents to a crawl space. Those allow your house to breathe. But the embers get into those vents, and now they're burning stuff in your attic. Right, yeah. So you want to keep the embers out of the vents. And the easiest thing that you can do is replace them with ember resistant vents. Or if you're a do-it-yourselfer, you can get some of that wire mesh that's an eighth inch or tighter. And you can put that wire mesh on there to keep the big embers from getting into your attic space and trying to burn your home from the inside out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Are those vents on the outside of your house?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, those are the vents that allow air to get into your attic. So they're part of the roof or they're part of the underneath. And you can easily replace them or if you're a do-it-yourselfer, you could hire somebody to come and put the wire mesh on those vents to keep the embers out of your attic.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Third and critical piece. Yeah. Third and critical piece. And we saw this in the Marshall fire, the wood fences and stuff like that, that connect to your house. So the third and very critical piece for people to think about is you want to have a safety zone right around your house. We're talking about the five feet, the zero to five feet. That's right there closest to your home. You don't want anything that can burn. So we're talking about wood mulch. We're talking about firewood. We're talking about wood fencing. We're talking about bushes, particularly those little juniper bushes. Those are things that can burn when the embers get there, right? That's what your neighbor was trying to put out with all the hose. They burn and then they light your house on fire. So you want to have a gorgeous, fantastic yard with all the beautiful landscaping, but you want that stuff to be away from the safety zone. You don't want anything in that zero to five feet That can catch your house on fire.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, depending on where you live, you know, I'm in a big community outside of Denver now with big lots, but tons of trees. Now, my cousin is in not far from where the Paradise Fire was in California. And their entire winter job, because they're retired teachers, their winter job is clearing trees. And I am not kidding you. It is like massive work every day clearing stuff because they're in a forest. And their home has not been burned, even though they've lost some, you know, in the area. I think it was. Was it Marshall? I don't remember. No, no, that wasn't it. But anyway, they what they the firefighters came in and wrapped like they're outbuildings, kind of like burritos that you get like Chipotle. I was fascinated by it. And then they have. Water, you know, that comes up from the stream and onto their property. I don't know how they've kept it from burning because fires have come so close to them so many times. But it is a job to keep that landscaping that you're talking about away from their home. And when you live in a forest, it's a little more complicated than my place. Just keeping my fence away, which I wouldn't even have thought of making sure the fence is at least five feet or more from my house. Anything else that we should know about landscaping and, you know, protecting our home?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, changing your landscaping doesn't mean you have to give up on curb appeal. It can be absolutely beautiful. Just move it away from the structure. And if you need to have a fence, you know, for pets and other reasons, you can have the wood fence. Just replace the last five feet. All you have to do is replace that with non-combustible like metal or something else. You can still have a gorgeous fence. You can still have a gorgeous yard. Just include the safety zone in your planning so that embers that land there have nothing to burn and they can just fizzle out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, Karen, you might be a good person to ask this question. I've had a lot of friends, especially in L.A., do home inventories now and especially my organized friends to make recovery easier. How do you go about doing that?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, a home inventory is so important. We're seeing a lot more attention for what you just mentioned. It's important for every disaster, but even more so for wildfire, because what we're seeing, sadly, is that when a home ignites in one of these big wildfires, over 90% of the time, there is nothing left. So how do you create a list of what you own to then get the reimbursement for that? That's where the home inventory comes in. You've got to do it before the event. And it's really simple. Go through each room of your house. Pull out your phone, turn on the camera, whether it's video or still pictures, and go through room by room. Open the drawers, open the closet, go into the garage or attic, and just document what you have with some sort of image. If you're doing a video, you can even kind of narrate it as you're going. You know, describe, I've got this and this and higher-end items, my electronics, appliances, whatever. It's literally just creating a record of what you have. So that after, if an event does happen, you can then use that to try to compile what it is that you're needing to get reimbursed for. So having it, again, you don't want to be thinking about this as you're going through the emotional, challenging aftermath of a fire or other event. Create it beforehand. create the document, the files, and then just save it somewhere you can access, your shared drives, your Google One drives, whatever, email it to yourself just so you have the ability to access that. It is such a helpful tool that is so often overlooked, but will help your recovery process and that claim be a lot smoother, a lot less emotional, and what you're trying to think through as you're preparing that documentation.
SPEAKER 06 :
So it could be as simple as just doing a video from room to room, opening each drawer and narrating what you have.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's exactly it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, in terms of going over all of your insurance prior to... Do you want to give us any more tips? Oh, and one more question before we get to that. When do you recommend like a certain, you know, something to bring with you when you leave? You know, do you have like, you know, the safe or, you know, all your documents together? Are there any tips that you guys offer for that as well?
SPEAKER 03 :
In the evacuation process, yeah, you want to have a go bag. We live in areas that are prone to disasters, and if you have to leave suddenly, having a go bag that you can grab that has whatever you need in it on critical things, you want to have, you know... If you have to gather them quickly, we have kind of a red light, orange light, green light system of ready, set, go in the wildfire space. So they will often give you a warning like, hey, get ready. So you're pulling all these together for your go bag. Get set is where you're about to leave, and then you go when you're being told to evacuate. Things like... medications, your pet's food, things that could be important records, insurance documents if you have them printed out, obviously some basic clothing or other things. So just anything that you need to have to reestablish if you're going to be out of your home, several days of basics and just have that where you're ready to go. Anything that can't be replaced. personal family mementos, photo albums, things like that. You want to kind of stage some of those items as you're getting yourself ready from an evacuation standpoint. And then there's also things you can do to prep your home, again, as you're leaving.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and right there as you leave, if you've got, like, you know, cushions and things like that on your porch, move those things. You know, toss them inside your house. Put your garbage can inside so that your garbage can is not, like, right up against your house trying to catch it on fire. if you have time. The most important thing, though, is you, right? If you're told to evacuate, go. And give your house the last fighting chance. If you have time, establish that safety zone right around your home.
SPEAKER 06 :
Excellent. Thank you, ladies, so much. Is there a good website for us to get more info?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. For anything on financial preparedness, how to review your insurance policy, how to do those home inventories, we've got all of that available at www.insurance. That's apci.org slash wildfire.
SPEAKER 05 :
And for those things about how to prepare your home, go to wildfireprepared.org.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, ladies, so much. Great info. Thank you.
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Darnell was a forward thinker.
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He was. He was totally a forward thinker. I know every morning Kim shares a couple of the most current headlines. And I think Lauren pulled a headline up for us. So I'm going to let him share that one. And I have one for us as well.
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Lorne, what was on your... The headline that was important in the world today is that as of 5 a.m. Eastern time, Israel has begun withdrawing troops from Gaza. So that is a good... Something good in the world happening and we'll see. This is not the first ceasefire. We'll see if it holds. We'll see if Hamas does what they say they will do as they have not ever seemingly in the past. But it's interesting because if it holds, then we'll have to find out what all these paid protesters on college campuses and stuff are going to do now.
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Oh, they might have to go find a new job. What's their next cause? Their next cause. That's very fascinating. Well, thank you for sharing that. And I think we see the response of Israel is trying to be maybe a good neighbor and then some.
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And they're working with President Trump closely, which is nice. And we'll see if this holds. This is going to probably lead to a Nobel Prize for our president.
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Oh, that would be interesting. Let's see where that takes us, right?
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It's supposed to be announced relatively soon. They've been announcing all the ones for physics and literature. So we'll see what comes of it.
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What comes of it? Well, we'd like to see peace in Israel.
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For sure.
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Most definitely. The headline I pulled up is, as many of you know, we continue to have the government not at work, except for those who are essential. And the headline was, Senate Again Rejects Bills to Reopen Government as Parties Aim to Shift Blame. And I think in their positions, their job is not to blame, but to find solutions. And I find some of their actions and reactions somewhat iniquitous.
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It's interesting. These aren't headlines, but they're real-life stuff if you know people. I was talking yesterday to a client of mine who is in the Navy, and he's not getting paid right now. And they just had a baby, and they have some savings, but a lot of these folks live check to check, and they will get their back pay. They always have. He told me, because I've been reading that, The administration is looking into some possibility of some people not getting their back pay. I haven't seen where that's gone yet. But he told me, and this is his opinion, that he believes it's a law that they're entitled to their back pay, especially the military. So I'm hoping for that. But as of right now, he's going on week number two of no check. They have mortgages. They have car payments. And so hopefully these people have savings to get through.
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Exactly. I have two people in my life that are close. One is a mother of an air traffic controller. And we know that there has been some that have chosen to take their sick days and cause a little bit of unrest in the air or on the ground. And that's unsettling. And then I have a client that works for TSA. And, you know, he is expected, obviously, to show up at work to keep our airport safe. And he said that, well, it gives him an opportunity to take some travel time. But, again, he's looking to buy a house. So he needs that paycheck. Yeah. We are going to ask that those of you who we have graciously elected into these positions to represent us, the citizens of America, that you guys set down all these agendas you have and let's come to a resolution solution. I think that would be apropos. Joe, anything you got to add to that conversation?
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Yes, ma'am. When I hear government shutdown, I want to think, all right, I think the elected officials... They don't stop driving. So they're using their drivers and stuff like that, which is our tax dollars at work, all while the government is shut down and people like the naval person who has a baby and can't support them at all just because they decide, oh, we're not going to agree. So we're going to shut everything down. And the people who help make the nation run... are screwed in the end, and I don't like that at all.
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Well, and they are hired or elected. They are elected to represent us, the people, and then they put the people in this state of unrest, uncertainty.
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Well, and guess in the federal government shutdown, guess who's still getting paid?
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I think they are.
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Congress, by law.
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Congress, by law, gets paid. And as Joe said, they still get the amenities of their day-to-day living.
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Not a lot of rush for them to come to an agreement when their checks are still getting deposited.
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So maybe they shouldn't get paid?
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Of course. They never have to face the consequences of... What they do. They still always have health care. They're always getting paid. They have built-in raises no matter what. They never have to face the consequences of their actions.
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Welcome back. I'm Karen Levine, and I'm filling in for Kim today. Check out Kim's website at KimMunson.com. That's K-I-M-M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Or email her at Kim at KimMunson.com. And we just want to thank you for contributing to support Kim's independent voice and to exercise the right of freedom of speech. So to exercise, I should say, our right of freedom of speech. So through all of Kim's work with the veterans, she is honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and all they are doing to raise the money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden. It is Golden, Colorado at 6th and Colfax. And Paula Soros is the president of the foundation. She is a Marine veteran and a Gold Star wife. Paula and her team are working diligently to make the remodel a reality. And you can help by donating at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And really an amazing undertaking. Paula's been on this journey for quite a few years, and we are hoping to see the renewal of that memorial. It will be a great place for people to go and spend time and to remember the efforts of our Marine veterans. So I have on the line a gentleman who is running for the Jefferson County or the Jeffco, I should say, the Jeffco School Board. And welcome, Sam Myron.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you very much. So to be here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Sam, I am a product of Jefferson County Schools, and I know how important the position of our school board is in education in Jefferson County. So share with us why you are running for the school board.
SPEAKER 10 :
I am running to make a difference, and that sounds kind of corny. But that's what I've been doing for, well, I've been volunteering in the schools for 44 years. And I believe that everybody can make a difference. And I do it every day when I teach chess, do crosswalk duty, whatever it takes to keep the kids safe. And, you know, if you want me to tell a story about why I do it, I will.
SPEAKER 07 :
I would love to hear that. And I'm sure the listeners would as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, I'm doing crosswalk duty for nine years. And a couple years ago, you know, volunteer. And a couple years ago, a gentleman stops me and says, thanks for volunteering. I appreciate that. You haven't seen me because my foster daughter got a permanent home. And I go, well, that's cool. I volunteer at these schools. And his eyes get big. He pulls to the side of the road, gets out of his car, comes up and assaults me with hugs. Oh, wow. He literally picked me up off the ground. Then he steps back, and he points at himself. He goes, Angelo, you made a difference in my life. I met this kid in sixth grade, and he's 40 now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 10 :
He was having trouble. He was getting in fights every day. He just couldn't concentrate in school. His home life was rough. And he didn't have a dad in the picture, and I said, okay, hey. I had him in shop class where I was volunteering him. I had him in PE class, and I taught him chess. So I got him through middle school and all the way through high school, and then I lost track of him like I do most of the kids over the years. I have 35,000 hours that I've volunteered over the last decades. That's amazing. Yeah. Then I go, well, what happened to your little brother? And he goes, well, kind of hangs his head. He goes, he just got out of prison for murder. And it's like, oh, no. So I tell this story to all the cops I know, all the teachers, all the principals. We make a difference. We are like a pebble on the pond of life. We make difference in these kids' life. And so if I saved his life, did I save somebody else's that he didn't, you know, maybe hurt or something later on in life? And so he's a great man. Sorry, it's a little emotional.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it sounds to me like when you're taking that time to be at the crosswalk to provide safety to these students, they have connected with you and you've created relationship. And I had the privilege this week to be in a room with a panel of superintendents from our school districts here in the Front Range. And the comment that they made was the importance of the school board and the direction of the school board and um the fact that we do have those who run for school board that have an agenda that is not in line with providing good education and safety to our kids yeah and to me i look at some of the people running and they're all good people it seems but their agenda of kids first is not is not right they just don't have it they don't have ideas
SPEAKER 10 :
I have ideas of what we should do. We should bring one thing. We bring back shop classes in middle school. Oh, we can't pay for it. Get out there and find labor unions, find contractors. All these people, these contractors in the trades, they need to have good workers coming out of our schools. My son is 33 years old, and he makes $35, $40 an hour as a plumber. And he is sought after. We're disservicing our kids by not preparing them for life. Everybody's going to go to college. Now, Jeffco does have a good CEC program. Well, that's the Denver CEC. It has Warren Tech's. But we need to have some of the shop classes, trades classes in the middle schools because that's where we lose a lot of kids. I hate school. But I'm going to go today because I have music. I have shop. I have education. you know, good art class. Those are the things that keep kids interested. Not everybody's going to go to college. And I've seen that firsthand because kids who can get an A in shop and they're getting D's elsewhere. And I would say to them, You can get at least a C or a B if you put in the same effort that you're putting in shop class, which they love, or, you know, OMEC class or whatever. Kids can't boil water, so we need to teach them how to cook. But it would work. The kids say, all right. And I've seen them get all the way through from middle school all the way, and they graduate. We need the pathway to graduate. And the trades are one of them. And they need to have them back into schools and sponsors. You're a union. You're a contractor. Put your name on a classroom. We built this. And then talk to your suppliers. Our suppliers supplied the machines, the tools. And it's possible. It can be done. We need to not lose these kids that we're losing now. because we're not educating them in what they want to be educated in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I think we continue to know that reading, writing, and arithmetic, the basics are very, very important. But we are lacking in our trades. And like you said, you have a son that's a plumber. All the trades I use in my business in the real estate world are retiring. And to find another quality employer, independent trades person is very difficult and so I know many of our school districts are looking at putting more emphasis there and it sounds to me like you have some great ideas to bring to the school board and I did find it interesting as you delve deeper into this the state of Colorado used to fund K through 12 education was about it was over 40% of the state budget and and it is now in the mid-20% of the state budget, which told me that the burden of cost is falling on the property owners through property tax and that the government, our state government, is not putting their emphasis on education as they should be, that there's a lot of, as Kim would say, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interest as parties that are taking part of our education budget for the state and it's not going to where it should which is our education so maybe if elected sam you can help them write the ship and get those dollars back to our education well they always talk about mental health in schools which is definitely a problem but part of it is i mean you said sam you said sam i am well i wear a sam i am shirt all the time i have eight of them
SPEAKER 10 :
Because it makes a kid smiles when I go into the schools that I go into. And it's something that you have to have. You have to have a friendlier environment. And one of my solutions is what was done in inner city Indianapolis back in the 90s. They brought grandma and grandpa. Now wisdom and experience of these older people is being lost in society. And you can make fun of people's mama, but nobody makes fun of grandma and grandpa. And we need that into the schools. More eyes, but more friendly faces. Go into the schools and tutor kids in the library. We need to have workers in the cafeteria, volunteers. We need volunteers. DEFCO needs to have a pathway to volunteer in the schools. And I know people out there would love to do it because... Like I said, you can make a difference. And we're not utilizing that resource, and I want to see more of it. I'm a grandpa, and I'm in schools, well, basically every day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it sounds like you've been involved in the educational arena as a volunteer for many, many years. And we appreciate you taking some time to share your vision as a candidate for Jefferson County School Board. And we wish you the very best on the campaign trail. And how can people get more information about you, Sam, and help you get elected?
SPEAKER 10 :
I have a website. I don't have a website. I don't have money for one of those. I do have an email, smyrant4jeffcoe at AOL.com.
SPEAKER 07 :
Excellent. So that's smyrant, and that's M-Y-R-A-N-T. Correct. And you said number four?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. Jeffcoe. Number four, Jeffcoe.
SPEAKER 07 :
At AOL.com.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly, exactly. And I want to get more people involved in the schools. They don't like necessarily to have volunteers because they don't want people to come in and see how, you know, corny, but the sausage is made. Right, right. We need to do it. People need to, you know, make a difference. Make a difference. That's what I've been really trying to do, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thanks so much for joining us, and we wish you the very best.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thanks for inviting me on.
SPEAKER 07 :
And with that, stay tuned. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back. I'm Karen Levine and I'm filling in for Kim this morning. Sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter at Kim's website. That's Kim Munson dot com. Or you can email Kim at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and to exercise our right of freedom of speech. Ready for financial freedom? Call your friends at Mint Financial Strategies. As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship, information sharing, a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. You can call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. Well, I'm excited to welcome our guest online, Joshua Scharf. Hopefully I said that right, Joshua. He's a senior fellow of the fiscal policy at the Independence Institute. He's also a member of the Compensation Commission, which I'm going to find very interesting to learn about. The Compensation Commission is a state legislative and elected salary commission, and he's also the author of Complete Colorado. Welcome, Joshua. Welcome.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning. Good morning, Karen. It's nice to meet you and Lauren as well. One small correction. I'm not the author of Complete Colorado. I am a contributor at Complete Colorado, which is the news division of Independence Institute. So you can find us at CompleteColorado.com. And then most of my stuff is on the commentary page over at page2.CompleteColorado.com.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you for clarifying that. So tell us about this compensation commission.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sorry to start off with a correction. So what happened was back several years ago, the legislature decided that it was underpaid. And so rather than vote, it did vote itself a pay increase. So it went from about $30,000 a year. to about $43,000 a year, which doesn't sound like a whole lot until you realize that it's a part-time position. The legislature itself only meets for about four months out of the year, although obviously there are some responsibilities that go into the out months, and there's always the possibility of being called back for a special session and so forth. That's in addition to a per diem that representatives receive. People within 50 miles of Denver get a lower per diem because the assumption is they'll just drive home. People farther out get a higher per diem because they'll have to pay for lodging as well. And it was decided that even though they voted themselves as paying crews, what they didn't want to do was be in the position of continually having to do that. So they passed a law where there would be a quadrennial, every four years, a quadrennial compensation commission that would examine the salaries of state legislators and the five statewide elected officials, governor, lieutenant governor, secretary, treasurer, secretary of state, secretary, I'm sorry, attorney general, secretary of state and treasurer. And so that's what we're doing. Our recommendations that we make will become the salaries for these positions, including the state legislature, after the 2026 election, unless the legislature itself votes to do something different. And so these are appointed by the executive branch. They're appointed by the legislature itself, the leaders of the legislature itself. And so I am the Senate Republican representative on this commission.
SPEAKER 07 :
And how many people sit on this commission?
SPEAKER 11 :
There are at least seven of us on this commission. There's a bunch of staff as well, but they don't have voting authority.
SPEAKER 07 :
And at this point, based on what you provided for me, you have sort of an outline of what the current situation is, and are you in a position now to start making recommendations? What's the next steps? Sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so one thing that happened, let me back up one second. There was a previous compensation commission back in the 80s, and its job was much broader than ours. It also had responsibility for things like school boards, district attorneys, that kind of thing. We're solely limited to state offices. But one of the things that they did was they went and looked at focusing specifically on the state legislature. They went and looked at other part-time state legislatures and got a sense of what they got paid and what their per diems were and what, and then on a daily basis, per day of the session, what that meant. And Colorado was sort of somewhere in the middle of the pack on that, maybe a little toward the low end. I went back and replicated that as best I could for nationally represented again, part-time legislatures. And it turns out that Colorado is in the upper end of that. We're in the upper third, certainly, of pay for state legislators per day basis of the session. And so what they wanted to do was bring in a professional firm to go and do their own examination. I don't have a problem with that. I mean, it's a This is all public information. It may be that I missed something or that they'll miss something, whatever. There's no harm in doing that. But, of course, we'll have to set some criteria of what they will look at. They will come back to us with their results, and then we will make recommendations. This is only for the legislature, of course. We still have to deal with the executive offices. It turns out that our governor, while the last few governors have been independently wealthy... the uh the salary for the governor is probably as low compared to others there'll probably be some some sense to increase the governor's salary i'm not sure i'm thrilled with that either the argument for increasing the legislators salary is that that shouldn't be that shouldn't be a bar to serving the counter argument is doesn't seem to be a bar to serving there seem to be plenty of applicants So every they're all all these elections are contested either in the primary or in the or in or in the general. So it doesn't seem like we're lacking for people who want who want these positions. So so we will see what comes out of this. Well, we find this... Our recommendations are... I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just to finish the answer, our recommendations are due by the middle of December.
SPEAKER 07 :
The middle of December. Well, it's interesting. Earlier in the conversation this morning, we were talking on the side about... Our elected representatives. Initially, that was a volunteer position. People wanted to serve their state or their city and councils or, you know, at the national government. But we have put this compensation incentive piece in place. And like you said, it's a part time job with, you know, some we want to pay for people's time. Right. But you want to make it reasonable.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and I think there are some states that, I mean, Oklahoma, I think, pays essentially a full-time salary, even for part-time legislators. Nebraska pays almost nothing. And I think there's got to be a difference between compensating people for potential lost opportunities and increasing the incentive for people to run for office because of the paycheck. There's something else that I think is liable to come up. that I want to alert people to on this as well. What will happen, I am sure there will be some discussion of cost of living and comparing cost of living in Colorado and other places. To my mind, there's something to that, but not as much as advocates for a pay increase would say. Because basically what you're doing, I mean, the actions that the state legislature takes have a huge effect on the cost of living in Colorado. They shouldn't be insulated from the consequences of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was going to say the effects of their decisions.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. They shouldn't be insulated from the consequences of that. If they make laws that make it more expensive to build housing and raise housing prices and mortgages and rents, they ought to have to suffer along with the rest of us with that, as an example. I think that may come up as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, as Lauren and I would probably come alongside you with the fact that the decisions that have been made at our state, and we talk about the construction defect legislation that is now almost 15 years old, but how it kept condominium construction from being built in our marketplaces, which was entry-level housing for many people. It was the way to start the American dream of home ownership. And without having that product in our product mix, it has really affected overall property values.
SPEAKER 11 :
No question. When I was behind the years and just graduated from college and got my first real paycheck, the first thing I bought was a condo on exactly that. Not the first thing I bought, but I bought a condo. on exactly that theory, that I had something I owned and it would appreciate in value and then eventually I'd buy a house.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Lauren, do you have any questions for Joshua?
SPEAKER 20 :
No, I find it very interesting that they, you know, I didn't know about this committee and I didn't know that this exists. I kind of thought these people almost had carte blanche, obviously by a vote to give themselves raises. I think Congress seems to have that ability. So I'm happy with the fact that there's this committee that's analyzing everything and checking fairness that they can't just say, we deserve a pay raise, we're going to get one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, in theory, they could still do that. I mean, they did vote themselves one before, but it's an uncomfortable vote for a lot of them. And certainly it's an uncomfortable vote in a situation where they're having to cut because of budget issues, where there are budget constraints to then turn around. And again, because of decisions they've made, there are budget constraints. And then they turn around and say, well, we, you know, we can't afford to do this job. We need, you know, we need another 15 grand a year or something like that. Nobody else, you know. Nobody else has that. Most of your listeners don't have the ability to do that. So they moved that to an independent commission to relieve themselves of that burden. Congress did very much the same thing at one point, and I think it may still be the case, although I'm not sure. I'm not sure whether they've tied theirs to some other metric, but Congress did the same thing at one point. They had an independent commission, and then it would just become law unless they took a vote to stop it. And this became somewhat controversial back in the late 80s and early 90s.
SPEAKER 07 :
And were you appointed to this commission? Is that how it is formed?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, in this case it was the Senate Republican leader who appointed me. Ironically, the House Republican leader appointed John Caldera. But do not be misled. That doesn't mean that John and I agree on everything on how this thing should work.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I understand that you're not going to join us in the second segment. And if that is true, anything else that we need to know about the work you're doing? We have just a couple other couple few minutes that we can wrap this up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, go ahead and look it up online. Unfortunately, I don't have the URL right now, but it's over at the Department of Governmental Affairs, something like that. It's whatever the administrative arm of the state government is, has to post these meetings. The next meeting for interested parties is the 13th, this coming Monday, the 13th at 3 p.m., So for those of you who want to listen in, and maybe even there's a section available for public comment, feel free to do that. But unfortunately, I don't have the URL, but it's the State Compensation Commission is the thing that you should be Googling, and you should be able to watch the sausage being made.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we I really appreciate that you accepted that appointment and are on the commission. And it sounds like you can give them some good direction and keep those compensation dollars in line for the citizens of Colorado.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thank you very much. And thank you very much for having me on this morning.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, our pleasure. And this has been Joshua Scharf, and he's with the Independence Institute and a member of the Compensation Commission for the state legislature. Thank you, Joshua.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Karen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Have a great day. So after this break, we'll be right back.
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Welcome back. I'm Karen Levine, and I'm filling in for Kim today. Check out Kim's website at kimmunson.com. The Center of American Values is one of Kim's, I would say, favorite things to chat about, and it is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. The center is focused on the foundational values of America, honor, integrity, and patriotism. Through their K-12 educational programs, training for educators, and portraits of valor of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients, the Center is helping to instill honor, integrity, and patriotism for our next generation. Check out their website. It is AmericanValuesCenter.com. That's AmericanCenterValues.com. During the break, we were just chatting about where we should take this conversation this morning. And since Lauren Levy, a co-sponsor of The Kim Munson Show and with Polygon Financial, is in studio with me today, we thought we'd talk about the rumblings of the Fed and interest rates. What's happening?
SPEAKER 20 :
So we're between meetings, obviously, right now. And I believe they have, I always get this wrong, the Fed meets, I think it's eight or nine times a year, not every month. And so I think they have two more this year. I could be wrong, but I think it's two. But anyhow, it's an interesting time because it's kind of a split Fed. There's a faction of the Fed that wants to continue cutting rates. And there's some that I think are more hesitant because they're more worried about inflation. I was listening on CNBC this morning, just on my drive in, Fed Governor Waller, who's a voting member, was talking about the dual mandate and the fact that they have two things they're trying to control, the prices of things and unemployment. And in his mind, the prices of things, while a little bit elevated, he believes that tariffs, although they don't hit all at once, they hit over a period of time, each hit is a one-time thing. And so he, in his opinion, on the higher end, like higher end goods, those tariffs are being passed through to those consumers that can afford it. And at the lower end, they're not. The suppliers are kind of eating them. So he doesn't see them as such a big concern. He's more worried about unemployment in the labor market right now. So in his opinion, they should continue to cut, but moderately. You know, not some big 75-point cut or more like a quarter at a time. And then let each one play itself out and see what it does. See if prices do indeed go up. So... We'll see what happens when the next time they meet and we'll see if it has a similar effect on mortgage rates. Mortgage rates dropped pre-meeting announcement last time and then went up after the meeting because of inflation fears. So we'll see as they continue to do that what happens on future cuts. Eight times, yeah. Okay. So the Fed meets eight times. So, yeah. So I think they have two more. I want to say either November, December, October, December this year. So the consensus seems to be two more cuts, a quarter each.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And where are 30-year interest rates lying today?
SPEAKER 20 :
They're on the lower end of where they've been. They dipped down to where we were offering things like 5.99 right before the Fed meeting last time. Then they went back to like 6.375. So they're in that range.
SPEAKER 07 :
So six and a quarter to six and a half.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, compared to seven where they were before. So it's an opportunity for people that have bought a home in the last two years that may have a rate with a seven in front of it to do something about that.
SPEAKER 07 :
To be able to.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's what we're doing right now is helping people that have rates in the sevens get down to these lower sixes, which is nice. There's a lot of ways you can help. So it's been very good to see people saving a bunch of money. But even homebuyers now, it's more affordable on the mortgage side.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and it's becoming more affordable because there's more competition in the marketplace with more inventory. There are more choices for buyers. And with more choice means that buyers potentially can negotiate a bit more on pricing, whether that's with concessions to help buy that rate down or with things as far as shortcomings of the property. They may be able to negotiate a little bit more on the inspection side. Because we came out of a period of time of three to five years where the seller pretty much controlled that market and buyers purchased homes. Those who got in early purchased at a very good value and then saw some great appreciation. And then those interest rates, as we know, doubled and created a state of a bit of uncertainty. challenging affordability. And so opportunity is out there. And I have some lovely properties on the market that I think people can buy well.
SPEAKER 20 :
I actually just had someone go under contract on a property with contingency. So those opportunities... I haven't had that in quite some time because that used to be taboo over the last several years. You can't have a contingency. Correct. And for those that don't know, that means that you have to sell your current house in order to be able to buy the new house. Most sellers on the new house wouldn't deal with that. They don't want to be tied up waiting for you to sell your current house. They don't want that risk. Well, this seller took that risk.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Which I haven't seen that in a contract in a while. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up because I think that's true. Also, we were talking about the shutdown of our government. And Joe reminded us that those people in Washington are... are representatives of us. And we have turned that rhetoric to call them officials. And I'm not sure what makes them official. Joe, what do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
I keep messing this up, so I'm trying to break that bad habit. But the officials in my eyes officiate my life. They tell me how I should feed my child, how I should live each and every day. And that's not what America is about. We're about making our own decisions. And if you make a bad decision, whoops, you get to pay the consequences for that bad decision. But we don't need the people that we elect to... be our voice who get to skip by on a lot of those consequences.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
I hear the word official and I just think if you've ever been to Congress or you've you know walk through and done tours they all have their own office and so they're elected to that office which makes them an official an official it's an occupant of an office and oh official that's true that's all it doesn't make them any better than anybody else clearly um if in our society they have just as many things they've done wrong if you take a look in their past then
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we're all human, right? And we're all definitely not flawless. And some of us, getting back to our word of the day, intentionally or unintentionally may act iniquitous with some iniquities. But with that said, I think generally the heart's a man, right? want to see good and want good to happen. And yet we see a government that is supposed to work together for the benefit of the people. And now we're, I think, day 10 into our government operating. So I would encourage them to get back to work and find a solution.
SPEAKER 20 :
I agree. I was trying to see. I hate to misquote, but we had a shutdown. I think it was 2013. I think it went for 62 days or something. It was crazy. I mean, I can't imagine. I know they get back pay, but I can't imagine trying to make that work.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Pay your mortgage.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, that would be an awfully daunting thing. I'm talking about the federal workers, not Congress.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly, exactly. Well, and I had heard that there was belief that they would come to an agreement by Monday because it's Columbus Day. I'm not sure why that's relevant.
SPEAKER 1 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
It says here the one in 2018 and 19 was 35 days. That's a lot. We're only on day 10.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're only on day 10. Well, with that said, and then lastly, we had started the hour talking about the ceasefire. And that would be something just to create peace in a part of the world that has had unrest for so much of its history.
SPEAKER 20 :
I agree. It would be interesting to see because this is not the first ceasefire between these parties. And the last several times it hasn't taken very long for a few rockets to go flying in the air again. And then it all comes unraveled. So hopefully it holds and people can get back to living a normal life.
SPEAKER 07 :
We would hope so. Well, you know, as Kim would say, Lauren, do you have a final thought?
SPEAKER 20 :
you know, we're going to do everything Kim does?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we don't have to, but, you know.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, I don't. My final thought is, as we talk about our business, you and I, and as a sponsor of the show and hopefully trusted confidants, I think that there's a lot of people out there that think sometimes, that I've spoken to, that rates maybe will go lower or need to go lower. The Fed's going to cut again, so they're waiting. They're on the fence, especially if it's to try to help people save money. What I would tell those people is, if you get an opportunity, take it. If rates drop in the next... three to five to six months especially on a refinance yes there are fees to refinance but people like me can help you with those and you can always do it again but we're saving a lot of people a lot of money and a lot of people are choosing to wait and just writing checks that are bigger than they need to to a bank that they don't need to pay that much to and it's better to keep it in your pocket so I would give us a call
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I have.
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Oh, good to know. I know, Barry, my husband's always looking for the right slice, the New York slice, right? Well, as we move into the second hour, I would like to share with you the word of the day, which is... Iniquity, I did not spell it in the first hour, but it is I-N-I-Q-U-I-T-Y. And iniquity is a noun, and I think it was Cambridge Dictionary said, iniquity is a noun that means a very wrong and unfair action or situation. It is immoral or grossly unfair behavior. Iniquity means gross injustice or wickedness. And I was like, wow, that's about a really harsh word. So with that said, because we seem to see a lot of iniquity lately, but I picked a quote of the day that's much more positive. And the quote of the day is, success can be defined in three simple words, and then some. the top people did what was expected of them and then some they were considerate and kind and then some they were good friends and helpful neighbors and then some and that quote is by darnell johnson and i tried to cite who darnell johnson is and there are many darnell johnsons out there and no one wanted to take credit for the quote So it could be a very successful soccer player in Europe. It could be a basketball player, a football player, or an educator. So Darnell, whichever Darnell out there wrote that, I think those are encouraging words and then some.
SPEAKER 20 :
Maybe Darnell will call in.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. Do you think? We might get lucky about that. So as we move into the hour, we had some headlines we were discussing in the first hour. And the headline I had chosen had to do with the fact that we're on day turn of the government shutdown. And the fact that the... Our representatives, our senators and our Congress people have not been able to compromise and or reach an agreement or both, and that their duty is to represent the people of America and get us back to work. So what are you thinking about this situation, Lorne?
SPEAKER 20 :
As I said in the beginning, I feel bad for the federal workers that hopefully will get retroactive pay. I believe they usually do. And some will say that by law they have to. So that would be great. I know there's talk about them not getting that. So that would be rough on those families. So hopefully that happens. And hopefully these guys can come to an agreement. It's weird that we have a government that can shut down.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is quite strange. And we were discussing in the first hour that our representatives, our elected officials, they still get their paycheck, apparently.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yep, they built that into the Constitution nicely. It'll be interesting. I have to fly tonight on a flight, and you hear a lot about delays with air traffic controllers and taking their vacation time or sick days, whatever. So we'll see how that all unfolds, if there's cancellations and things like that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And delays. Yeah. Well, and it's interesting. In the realm of air traffic controllers, apparently we have been quite short with regards to air traffic controllers. And then if they're taking their sick days or their vacation days, that just makes the system shorter. I did hear that the – I don't know if it's a school or an institute or whatever that educates air traffic controllers – They are in the private sector, so they're still training people to do that, so that's helpful.
SPEAKER 20 :
When you hear about a shortage of air traffic controllers, then if you ever see a map of the planes that aren't seeing the sky at any one given time, it seems like we need a lot of air traffic controllers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, yes. We were coming home, and I live near Rocky Mountain Metro, and they were all lined up last night. It was rather busy in the sky.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and those are the little planes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly, exactly. They're not the 747s, right? Joe, did you want to jump in on that conversation? Alicia is on the line with the Second Syndicate. Alicia, how are you doing this morning? I'm doing great. Good morning, everyone. So tell us, what work are you up to? I know you are doing some educating when it comes to firearms, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct. So I have my own personal firearms education company. I work with a company that I'm one of the educators called Concealed Carry Classes of Denver. So I have a classroom in Thornton, Colorado, as well as in southeast Denver. And we host classes not only for concealed carry, but for renewal. I teach people how to use pepper spray. I teach people how to have more situational awareness. I teach people, you know, basic pistol, defensive pistol skills, etc. So, indeed, that is something that I do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and protecting our right to bear arms is important that we have good education and we know how to use them. I have shared that when we look at safety, whether that's in our schools, on our streets, in our homes, guns are not the problem. It's the hearts of people. And that I remember when I went to college and I went away to the state of Texas and where the freedom of firearms was quite abundant, and young men would have their hunting rifles behind their heads in the gun rack in their pickup trucks.
SPEAKER 16 :
Indeed. And one of the things that I reference when we talk about that, because that's something that I hear quite often, people saying, what has changed, right? Guns used to be humanized and normalized in culture, that it was not something that you saw and you wanted to steal or commit acts of violence with. It was something you just recognized and respected. And when we're looking at all this quote-unquote violence that has happened with firearms, it's not because of the gun. One of the things that most of these violent offenders have in common is they are on you know antidepressants they're on medication they're on pharmaceuticals that give them very very awful feelings and psychosis and we also can look at society and say okay what also has changed and it's a cell phone it's all of these things that are addicting people to instant gratification they have hypersensitivity there's all these you know, small but yet important changes that have happened in society, and we're seeing how it's affecting people. And, of course, somebody needs a scapegoat, right? We need a whipping boy, and the gun becomes that whipping boy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I think what's interesting is through this change of values, we've lost sight of the value of life and the value of respect. And I was always taught that I was to respect the firearm. And we had guns in my home because my dad hunted. And I was scared to death of them. And I just stayed away from the gun cabinet. And it wasn't until my adult life that I chose to want to understand how to use a firearm and to use it with competency and respect. And so I think the rhetoric hopefully is changing through conversations like this, Alicia.
SPEAKER 16 :
Indeed. And one of my jobs is to help people understand that I don't want them to fear the gun. I want them to honor and respect the tool. and we have to change the way we are discussing guns in society uh the word weapon is a no-no in my class because i don't want people to call firearms weapons they are tools the mind is the weapon and we need to understand that it is our focus is who we are as people that can be weaponized and we have tools that we can use in order to make those agendas happen your voice is a tool your Your vote is a tool, and I want people to exercise their rights to have and use these tools so we can change and humanize gun culture again in society, that people do have a respect for them, and that it's not something that everybody is completely fearful of and assumes the worst. Because being in possession of a firearm does not mean intent to commit harm. And we have a lot of these laws that are being passed and politicians that are doing their best to groom not only society now, but our future children to be afraid of firearms and assume that just because someone has one, they mean harm, which is absolutely not true.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, so appreciate your passion for this. And how can our listeners reach you if they are interested in some education?
SPEAKER 16 :
They can go to concealedcarryclassdenver.com. They can also support us at the Second Syndicate. So my nonprofit that I created this year with Spartan Defense is called the Second Syndicate. And what we do is we mobilize and educate people in a grassroots effort to protect and defend the Second Amendment. We have a giveaway going right now for some Springfield 1911s that was donated by the Damage Factory. And what people can do is they can go to our website or they can go to GiveSendGo and do Operation Education, where we are doing our best to raise funds to put people through the Faster Colorado program, which is an organization founded by Laura Carno. that helps arm educators so not just teachers but you know the lunch lady the custodian people that work in schools that want to defend our youth because we have this ability and what we want them to do is exercise that right to protect our students and our youth so if they cannot afford the tuition to go through the faster program the second syndicate is raising funds to make sure that we can offset that cost and help educate these people so they can exercise their right to protect our kids
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Welcome back. I'm Karen Levine, and I'm pleased to host the show today for Filling in for Kim. Remember to visit Kim's website at kimmunson.com. That's Kim, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And sign up for our weekly newsletter. You'll get the first look at her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. You can also email Kim at Kim at kimmunson.com. We want to thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and to exercise our right to freedom of speech. Through all of Kim's work with the veterans, she is honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and all the work that they are doing to raise money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden, Colorado at 6th and Colfax. Paula Sarles is the president of the foundation. She is a Marine veteran and a Gold Star wife. Paula and her team are working diligently to make the remodel a reality. You can help them by donating to the USMC Memorial Foundation at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And I am excited to welcome our guest, Libby Szabo. Libby is a friend and she is a former Colorado State Representative and former Jefferson County Commissioner. Welcome, Libby. well thank you karen good morning good morning so we were having a conversation a couple of weeks ago and i became intrigued of your pathway to get involved in representing the people of colorado when you chose to run for state representative years ago and then you moved into the commissioner position in jefferson county And so I'd love to start the conversation just to learn a little bit about your service when you started that journey and how long you serve for us and kind of give us an idea about who you are.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Well, those are a lot of loaded questions. So basically, in 2008, I ran for the state Senate. And I lost by 1% in a Senate district. And it was a real eye-opener as to what the political realm was going to be about. And I use that word politically. loosely because they spent $1 million in a small state senate district against me and the flyers and commercials and everything were flying every day and I thought wow what am I getting myself into and so unfortunately I didn't win that race I lost by 1% And so about a year later, they came to me and said, well, you won the House district you were in. You didn't get enough votes in the other House district because the Senate district is two House districts put together. And, you know, you should run for your House district. And I was still exhausted because I gave it my all and said, And I said, well, you know, let me think about it. Let me talk with my family. Let me pray about it. And to make a long story short, ended up running again for House District 27, which is in the northwestern part of Arvada. And as, you know, we were running, it was getting kind of hairy at the end. And my husband said to me, you know, Libby, you might not be so lucky this time. You just might win. I just kind of looked at him and, you know, down the road, I figured out what that meant. And so I did actually win. And that would have been in the election in November.
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of 2010 was sworn in in 2011 and off i went uh serving as a state representative for house district 27 well and that was quite the journey and we were talking about as a state representative you are tasked with bringing forth five bills isn't that correct
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, you are allowed or tasked given five bills that you can run each year. And at the end of the session, when they add up the bills, you know, it ends up to be we end up voting on like 680 bills. Right. They don't know math real well down there because there's only 65 members, and if each one gets five, it certainly doesn't add up to 680. So there are some other bills that are given by the Speaker of the House. Most of them, if not all of them, are given to the party that is in charge, and they're called late bills. So, yes, each representative is allotted five bills. And then if you're on the right side of the aisle in the majority, you can also acquire five, ten. You know, who knows? The sky's the limit on how many late bills they will give you. And I always thought five bills was a lot of bills. for each person to run, and do we really need, you know, five more laws from 65 different people? And my answer to that is no, because I, you know, would look at all the different law books in my office, they filled up a whole bookshelf And the type font in them seemed like about four fonts. And that's a lot of laws. And who can know all that? You know, you can't follow a law if you don't even know it exists.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and what I'm hearing you say is that each representative is given the opportunity to bring five bills forward, but they're not required.
SPEAKER 17 :
correct yeah if you want to just bring one bill and um i you know i don't i don't know anybody who didn't bring any bills but i'm assuming um you could not bring any if you want i don't i don't know about that but yes we're not there were some years i ran three bills
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Well, and this is what I find interesting, as you said, are more laws on the books necessary for the betterment of the Colorado community. And we're going to head to break for just a minute here and hear from one of our sponsors. But when we get back, I want to hear about some of your successes.
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Welcome back. I'm Karen Levine and Kim's taking the day off and I am privileged to sit in her seat. We want to remind you to go to Kim's website at KimMunson.com. You can sign up for Kim's weekly newsletter. You'll get the first look at all her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. And you can certainly email Kim at Kim at KimMunson.com. Thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and to help us exercise our right to freedom of speech. We have with us Libby Szabo, who is a former state representative and Jefferson County commissioner. And we're just going to jump in. And I am excited to hear about what you would consider some things that happened in your position that made things good for Colorado.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, you know, like we talked about, there are a lot of bills out there that – there are a lot of bills that turn into laws, actually, that aren't great for Colorado. But I feel like some of my accomplishments were – I really tried to stay on some – to help create business business. a better way where they could thrive in this state and not have so much regulations against them. You know, our family owned a business, and a lot of our extra expenses in the business were overregulation. And so I would try to create bills for better permitting processes. uh in different aspects quicker permitting process because you know when you're in business time is money exactly and um you know i i i really felt sometimes i was um on the business committee for the five years i was in there and i really felt like sometimes that uh some of the legislators did not realize that um The lion's share of the tax dollars came from business, and those were the tax dollars they liked to spend and squander. And so in order for them to be able to do that, we need to make business strong in Colorado. Right. But one of the bills that actually passed that I am proud of was Uber – and Lyft as we all know those ride share companies had just kind of come on the scene at that point and they were operating in Colorado but they were not legal and I ran a bill that made them legal And it was a very up and down bill. It took three quarters of the session to get it through. The unions fought hard against it because they represented the taxi drivers. But I think through all of that, the taxi drivers realized they could join those platforms also. Well, and it offered make Mormon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And having Lyft and Uber offered choice to the consumer, to the people of Colorado. Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. And competition is always best for the consumer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Right. And what made it illegal for them to do business? Was there certain regulations or policies that they weren't meeting? And so we needed to get that in line, which made your bill valuable?
SPEAKER 17 :
There were just no parameters around what they could do, what types of insurance they needed to hold, how they could protect the public. There was nothing. They just started their platform. And in some states, they needed nothing. But in other states, they did. So we kind of took the best of the states that had some parameters around it. And um it was you know the insurance was was a really big deal along with the cab drivers um on you know how do we insure these people what happens if they have an accident and somebody in their car is injured how does that work because the insurance companies you know on their regular policy because you know um if you've gone in an uber or lyft it's your own car yeah um and um They were using just their regular insurance. Personal. Yeah, their personal insurance to insure the car, and it really did need to be a higher cost.
SPEAKER 07 :
entity with people in car using it for a business you know those type of things yeah adding those protections not only for themselves running the business but for those who were hopping in the car
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Because basically what it is, is you work for yourself and you join the platform. And that's a whole new idea, too. Right. There are several other businesses now that do that. But that was very new at this time. And, you know, work out all the ins and outs. And how did this work? If you're really not working for a company, you're joining their platform. And through that, they make a little bit of the money and you make some of the money. And so, yeah. So it took a long time. I would say one day, this isn't going to pass. And then the next day, I'd say, this just might make it. It was like that the whole time. And yeah. So that was one of the accomplishments I was proud of. Also, working hard to stop bills that weren't good for Colorado. And trying to show people how these will hurt them. in the state and how they will hurt business and those type of things. That was a full-time job trying to do that because there were a lot of bills. I always called those type of bills mail piece bills because they just wanted to be able to have some kind of bill that had a good sound bite that they could send to their constituents in the mail to say, please re-elect me because I ran this particular bill. And it had a pithy name and sounded good. But when you really looked at it, it wasn't so great. So I spent a lot of my time fighting those bills, helping my caucus fight those bills. I was the assistant minority leader for two terms. And so in that leadership role, that was one of my my duties to help, you know, set up how are we going to try to
SPEAKER 07 :
squelch this bill yeah yeah well and i know in the most recent uh legislative uh um session um they looked at over 700 bills and there was quite a few harmful bills in the world of real estate that passed and um again we sometimes don't look at what those long-term consequences are and um one of the best suppliers of rental housing are mom and pops you and me who have chosen to invest in real estate and then make those properties available to our neighbors and friends in our communities and we do that at a market rate at a fair rate and the things that are going to be imposed on landlords are really harmful to the overall housing market and is going to cost our renters more money to protect the landlords I mean it's just not a win-win and so important that you know we put good people in those representative positions um and as you said I think the comment you made to me was about those who run as an activist can't be super effective in their role
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Well, we, you know, we go in to represent, of course, our district. But as a state representative, you're also representing the entire state because every law that passes is for the state of Colorado. My bill was not just for House District 27. Right. It was for the entire state. Right. When you don't come into it, when you come in as an activist, if you're smart, you learn very quickly that ain't going to work. Because you need to get buy in, especially when I was there, we had a one seat majority for two years and then we had like a three seat deficit. in the minority. And now it's super majorities in both houses. It's impossible to get enough people on committees and that type of thing to stop some of these activists from just running. They run with blinders on. And that's never good for the state. It's never good for the people in the state because they have one idea and that's all they can see. And we need to you know make sure when you're voting look into these people see what bills they ran in the past if you're re-electing them see where they've come from see what activist groups they've been involved in and and know what those are don't just blindly vote Because that's where we get into circumstances where we think, what on earth is the legislature doing? And we didn't look into who we were voting for. And I think that's our responsibility as a citizen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I would agree with you, Libby. So let's just jump quickly. We have a few minutes and we can chat about. So you went from state representative and jumped into the county commissioner position in Jefferson County. And you served there for what period of time?
SPEAKER 17 :
I served there from February of 2015. I filled a vacancy because Faye Griffin won clerk and recorder, and she was the commissioner. Oh, right. So I stepped out of the legislature, filled that vacancy, and I was not reelected in 2020. So I served until January of 2021. So that was six years of service, and it's a four-year term, so a term and a half.
SPEAKER 07 :
Term and a half. And is there one thing you would highlight that you feel you did well in that commissioner position for Jefferson County?
SPEAKER 17 :
Sure. It was a very different position than a state representative. County commissioners work with the people. They're very close to the people. Local government is the closest government you have to your actual situation. And that's where everybody should be watching because that's where your life starts. by their decisions will change quickly. And I'm a people person, so I enjoy helping people in Jefferson County work out, you know, just things you couldn't even imagine. Disputes with their neighbors. It was so funny because I'm like, gosh, I got the Hatfields and the McCoys here. This is interesting. I didn't think I'd be doing this. But helping people, you know, when one of our entities... um is not taking care of the the the land around the park and it's uh going and something's happening with someone's yard things like that i could work with the people and i could work with the organization and with the jetco edc to help business i could carry on that mantra into the edc and So keep your eyes on your local government, guys, because those decisions is what will change your life very quickly. The feds is what we kind of watch in the federal government, and that moves very slowly, but it's the local government who's changing things in our communities every day. And I just want to also say, Karen, everyone should get involved. If you feel like you want to run for office, I think you should. And give it a go and serve your community. Don't serve the lobbyists and the other people around the activist group. Serve the people of your community because that's what matters.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, Libby, that was a great way to wrap up this section. And I really appreciate you jumping in and being one of our guests on the convention show today. We've just I think just getting that down to earth grassroots perspective of serving the people of Colorado will be helpful, helpful to our listeners. We're going to go to break. I want to thank you for being on and we'll be back in a minute.
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Welcome back. I'm Karen Levine and I'm pleased to host the show today. Kim is out of the studio and has graciously put me at the helm. Remember to visit Kim's website. That's Kim Munson dot com. Sign up for her weekly email newsletter. So you'll get the first look at her guests and the most recent essays. Also, you can email Kim at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Something that should be in your bucket list is to visit the Center of American Values located on the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo. The Center of American Values was co-founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix and Emmy Award winning documentary maker Brad Petula. The center is focused on honoring our Medal of Honor recipients and teaching and upholding the principles of America. honor, integrity, and patriotism. For more information, check out their website, AmericanValuesCenter.org. So it has been a couple of hours of the Kim Munson Show, and Lauren Levy with Polygon Financial and I have been in studio, and we've had some interesting conversations. Any comments you have on what we learned from Libby Szabo, our former state representative and county commissioner?
SPEAKER 20 :
I always find it interesting here, you know, to see the shift in our state government, you know, when she was talking about how, you know, there was a slight majority either way back in her time. And then now it's, you know, super majority one way. It's got to be tough and challenging and frustrating to be trying to get things done. And realizing that the odds are not in your favor. And still going in and trying to fight every day. So kudos to those that do that. You know, and it is important that she says, you know, to try to get involved if you feel the call. Because... At the local level, there's a lot happening all the time. And people can make a difference. We had a lot of people on here today trying to make a difference, which I find very exciting and cool.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's encouraging. It's really encouraging. And I was thinking about if you feel like you would like to serve your community, jumping in to a city council meeting. race getting into a city council position or a commissioner position and one of our sponsors one of Kim's sponsors is Karen Gorday and she is running for city council in the city of Lakewood and it sounds like she's out there meeting the people and people are really appreciating her perspective and the fact that she wants to support the things that are important to the citizens of Lakewood
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I liken a lot of things that I see in my time to sports because I'm a sports junkie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, you are.
SPEAKER 20 :
And I spend a lot of time at games, youth games, all kinds of games. And I was talking to someone just last night. I was at a high school football game, and there's a massive shortage of high school football referees. They're playing on Thursday night. They're playing on Friday night, sometimes Saturday because they only have a limited number of referees. And people will sit back in the stands and yell at the referees and tell them how bad they are, but then nobody wants to be a referee. And it's the same thing in city council or any other local government. A lot of people just want to complain about what's going on in their world but don't want to throw their hat in the ring to try to make a change. And so the ones that do, that's why I'm always quiet. Even if I see a referee or an umpire or something struggle a bit, I'm like, you know what? They're out there for not a lot of money and taking their time and dealing with the crowd, the calls from the crowd and stuff. So kudos to them for doing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Most definitely. Most definitely. Joe, you got something on your mind?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, with sports, I generally muttered something to myself, but I don't ever want to just shout out to them. I always feel like they are already volunteering their time in the first place. I don't need to make it a bad position in the first place just because I'm upset at a call. In football, my dad told me this when I was growing up playing football. And once that play is over, it's over. Just go on to the next play. That play is not there anymore. And I think that, I have to tell myself that a lot.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I think people learn from watching major league stuff, major league baseball, the NFL, where those referees are highly compensated, whether it's their full-time job or not. They're still highly compensated for what they do, and a lot of people want those jobs. It's the local stuff where the people are making $60, $70 a game. Not including the drive time to and from the game and everything else that they're doing to try to help these kids have a game. Because if you don't have umpires and you don't have referees, you don't have a game.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 20 :
And those are the ones that you need to have a little respect for and not... tear them up because when they quit it's kind of like when you said there's a lot of people that are aging out of these things and there's not a lot of people looking to get into it coming back at a younger age at a younger age well and I think when somebody recently who I find quite wise said to me
SPEAKER 07 :
Before you are too critical, ask yourself, would you want that job? And if you would want that job, then jump into that position and make that job better. But if you didn't want that job, maybe you should be thoughtful of the fact that they're doing the better. In most cases, they're doing the very best they can. And they're trying, especially at the sports level at junior high, high school, and even soccer at elementary school, we're trying to teach our children good values and skill sets and respect. And as parents, we should maybe reflect that more when we're on the sidelines.
SPEAKER 20 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 07 :
Maybe. I don't know. So we have, yes, Joe?
SPEAKER 04 :
I just want to say as well, and referees, usually they're not just going out, well, I'll be a referee because it's a good side job. They're usually extremely passionate about the game in the first place, and I think that's something very big to notice as well.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, yeah, and they're passionate for the athletes as well. They enjoy the game, and they want to be able to have them to have a game, like I was saying.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
And they're filling a need, so I agree. So same thing with these local politicians, as we were talking about.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 20 :
there's a need and they're filling it. So good for them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. And it's interesting if we go full circle, we started the conversation this morning about compensation to our elected representatives and having this commission that looks at that. And then we had a former representative on the line who had a heart for the people of Colorado and to make day to day living both for local business and for upcoming business, creating new business opportunities. And then we look at our federal government who is requiring people to go to work without pay because they can't seem to get their act together to operate at a federal level. So we've kind of hit all levels today, haven't we, guys? Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. We absolutely have. And I think that's another unique thing, though, too, is how do you tell the snakes in the grass? Because there are the people like Libby who are extremely passionate for the people of Colorado. But then there's others. I won't name names that only benefit themselves and get a precursor to what's going to happen so that they can benefit themselves. It's weird.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah. And in some regards, we hope it's not the survival of the fittest.
SPEAKER 20 :
Or the wealthiest.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or the wealthiest, right. That the common people can enjoy the beautiful things of Colorado and our state. And one of the headlines, listeners, that came up when we were off on break was that the school lunch menu is going to take out pizza and chips and And we were talking about that pizza is sort of a rite of passage.
SPEAKER 20 :
Fridays will never be the same.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. How is that going to work? I mean, I'm sorry, but in any given week, pizza is always involved.
SPEAKER 04 :
Most of my family is in New York. I think I could have pizza every day for the rest of my life and be happy because there's at least different variations of pizza.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is so true. And I hosted for my clients a pizza party on Monday night. And we all made individual pizzas. And it was a fall flavor sort of forward.
SPEAKER 20 :
Pumpkin pizza?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I had squash. So I did. I had roasted squash and roasted tomatoes and some Italian sausage. It was stinking delicious.
SPEAKER 14 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
i know so now we're all going to be hungry as we um as we wrap up at the at the kim munson show so i just want to repeat our quote of the day and then some um success can be defined in three simple words and then some the top people did what they were expected to do and then some they were considerate and kind and then some they were good friends and helpful neighbors and then some Quoted by Darnell Johnson. And we don't know which Darnell. But with that. Thank you for listening, and thank you, Kim, for allowing me to sit in your chair. And today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth and justice in the American way. You are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Join Rick Hughes as he guides you through the essentials of living a life grounded in spiritual discipline and faith. With references to the Apostle Paul's military and athletic metaphors, Rick paints a vivid picture of the Christian journey as one of ongoing growth and dedication. Through this episode, explore the ten problem-solving devices that form the core of a life aligned with divine principles, helping listeners to build their inner resistance against life's adversities.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around with me. Just a short 30 minutes with motivation, some inspiration, and some education, and no manipulation, no con games, not trying to hustle you in any way whatsoever, not asking you for money. We're not trying to sell you a book. We're just wanting to give you some information. Hopefully, taking that information, you will be able to orient and adjust to the plan of God. That's okay if you can. If you will, I pray you will. It's your decision to make. But we have a lot of information for you. We've been the FLOT line. If you don't know what it is, this is your first time to listen. FLOT, F-L-O-T, stands for the Forward Line of Troops. What we're doing is using a military analogy to explain the Christian life. We're saying there are 10 unique problem-solving devices found in the Bible, which my pastor taught me many years ago. This is not something that I came up with on my own. And it's certainly not anything weird. These are age-old biblical doctrines. But my pastor put them together in such a way as he explained them to be a main line of resistance, a flat line, a main line of resistance in your soul so you can stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside sources of stress. So if you learn these 10 problem-solving devices, which basically is the Christian life in a nutshell, then you can live a life without worry, without fear, without bitterness, without antagonism. What a wonderful way to live. It's the mind of Christ. Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. This is how he thought. This is you orienting to the mind of Christ, thinking divine viewpoint, we call it. So that's why we have this radio show. I'm recruiting. I'm looking for people that are hungry to grow. I'm looking for people that want to learn and apply the plan of God to their lives. Most people that listen to this radio show, some of the early in the morning, various countries, we're in 50 states all across America. Every state has at least one flatline show being played this morning. And they're not really young people. Most young people are not up. Most of you guys listening are older people, maybe 50 and up. And I appreciate you listening. And I always encourage you to write to me. Let me know if you're learning something. So when it comes time to sign more contracts and pay more money to broadcast in your area, uh, At least we know somebody's listening. So if you are listening, let us know. And if you are growing and if you are learning, let us know. You can write to us at Post Office Box 100. That's not very complicated. Post Office Box 100 in the city of Cropwell, C-R-O-P. W-E-L-L, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054. It's P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054. And it's simply Rick Hughes Ministries. That's all, Rick Hughes Ministries. Okay. Now, we want to talk today about winning the race. Winning the race. Okay. In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul used a lot of military and athletic illustrations. We call them metaphors. He was a Jew, had a Roman citizenship. He was very familiar with the Roman army as well as Greek athletic events like the Ithmean Games and the Olympic Games. As a matter of fact, 1 Corinthians was written to believers in Corinth where the Ithmean Games were held. Thus, those folks there, those believers were very familiar with athletic competition just like we are in America today. Athletes throughout Greece would converge on the Ithamian Games every two years during the spring. And those games were in honor of the Greek god Poseidon. The Roman counterpart was known as Neptune, the earth-shaking god of the sea. Those athletes would compete in foot races, wrestling, boxing, throwing the discus, throwing the javelin, long jump, chariot racing, poetry reading, and singing. You didn't know that, did you? We have our football stadiums. We have our baseball fields as well as basketball courts and hockey rinks. All Americans are well aware of the competition for the Super Bowl or the World Series or the Stanley Cup or NASCAR races or fishing tournaments or arm wrestling championships, PGA events. We love competition. We love to honor our winners with great status like the MVP, the Most Valuable Player. Let it be understood now, today, there are winners and losers in the arena of contention called the angelic conflict. What's that? Well, in effect, it's your life as a Christian in time. You are in the center of the angelic conflict. You are in the arena of contention. So Paul the apostle warned the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 9 24-27 about the intense dedication that would needed to be committed to be a winner in God's plan. And he used athletic metaphors to describe the devotion needed. His challenge in 1 Corinthians 9, 24 was this, run so that you may obtain. The Christian life is compared to running, not sitting, not standing, running. He compared the winner believer to one who mastered the event. In 1 Corinthians 9, 25, it says, and this, everyone who competes for the prize is is temperate in all things. Now they do it to attain a perishable crown, but we do it for an imperishable crown. So by being a winner in an athletic event, they receive the ultimate recognition of the winner's wreath. And the apostle Peter even used this type of analogy in his book when he described the winner's wreath in eternity. This is what Peter said, 1 Peter 5, 4. And when the chief shepherd appears, you will receive the never withering wreath of glory, crown of glory that fadeth not away. So Paul talked about the winner's crown that they got, the wreath that they wore, and Peter talks about what you'll wear in eternity. Paul even used himself as an example. When he said this, he proclaimed in 1 Corinthians 9, 26, 27, I run with a purpose. I fight a real opponent. And he proclaimed that he disciplined his body, his flesh, for fear that after he proclaimed Christ to others, he himself might fail to finish the race and be disqualified. You know, many Christians, many believers like me, like you, start out running on emotional high after getting saved. But the emotions finally get overcome by adversity and discouragement in the daily grind of life. I was that way when I first accepted Christ as my Savior. It took me about maybe a year and a half before I found a well-qualified pastor that could teach me something. I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off, trying to tell everybody I'd gotten saved. I'm a Christian. I'm now a new person in Christ. And I didn't understand that I needed to grow up spiritually. I didn't understand anything about that. I didn't even know what my sin nature was. I didn't even know that I had a spiritual gift. So I had to learn all of these things. What I want you to know is that my team and I have put a book together called Practicing Your Christianity. Kind of an athletic metaphor, and it's not quite available yet. We're in the process of finishing up the print, so it will be before the end of the year, before the summer, we should have it available called Practicing Your Christianity. We're writing this book so you'll understand the challenges you face and the opportunities you will have to glorify God to the maximum in your life. And it's our prayer that you will learn and apply the principles we will give you in that book so that you will hear, well done, my good and faithful servant, Matthew 25, 23. If you're going to win the race, it's going to require some spiritual self-discipline. In 1 Corinthians 10, 5, Paul talks about those who are defeated. in the Old Testament times due to various distractions. He stated, with many of them, God was not well pleased, 1 Corinthians 10, 5. What was that about? Well, due to their failure to trust God, due to their failure to enter the promised land, the entire adult generation that came out of Egypt died wandering in the wilderness for 40 years. And it was their children that eventually went in. You can read about it in Numbers chapter 14 and Numbers chapter 15. A Christian who fails to learn and execute God's plan winds up wandering in the wilderness of life. you'll wind up being led astray by the tour guide called AKA the devil. Second Timothy 3.7 says, always learning, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. And that's the way a lot of Christians are. They buy all kind of books, try to read everything about everything, but they never really get under a well-qualified pastor to teach them the mechanics to the Christian life. I went to a Bible college. I didn't get any mechanics. I learned about the Bible, but I never got the mechanics to the spiritual life. That's what's different about our radio show. We teach you the mechanics to the spiritual life and point you to where you need to be to grow up. The wind, these people wind up being deceived and chasing the happiness in life that they can never catch. You hear me refer to it all the time as the my way highway. What is that? It's wasted opportunities. It's a wasted life. No wreath of glory. Just a life filled with divine discipline. Maybe an eventual early death due to self-deception, self-destruction. If you want to receive the winner's wreath, you must learn what God the Holy Spirit says in the scriptures. And you must absolutely understand the protocol plan of God and adhere to its demands. 2 Timothy 2.5. Listen carefully now, listen. Also, if anyone competes as an athlete, he will not be crowned as the winner unless he competes according to the rules. There it is. You will not be a winner in God's plan unless you learn the rules. What's that? The protocol plan of God said a right thing must be done in a right way. The first thing you must learn is how to be filled with the Holy Spirit so that you don't wind up producing all sorts of human good. Nine out of 10 people that write books about the Christian life never even mention that. Don't even bring it up. They just try to give you some inspiration and motivation, tell you to be a good guy, love Jesus and all that, and sell you a book and earn some money. Listen, anyone competes as an athlete, he will not be crowned as a winner unless he competes according to the rules. Well, what are the rules? 1 Timothy 4, 7, exercise yourself unto godliness. Paul instructed this to Timothy, train yourself for godliness. That word godliness is a Greek word called eusebia, and it connotes duty and responsibility of the believer to God under the mandates of the spiritual life. When you exercise muscles, you tune them up. Godliness tunes up your spiritual life. You need spiritual power rather than physical power. I mean, at this point, we could stop and do an extensive study on godliness, but time won't allow that. Just remember this. Godliness is you fulfilling God's protocol plan and acquiring the mind of Christ, as Philippians 2, 5 tells you. Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. So what is spiritual exercise? Well, the mandates in the Bible make it pretty clear that we are, number one, to be filled with the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 5.18. And number two, we're not to walk in the energy of the flesh, Galatians 5.16. This requires effort, requires you using your volition. It requires you learning the weaknesses of the flesh and seeing your three enemies, the world, the flesh, and the devil, and learning what God's mandates are. As a matter of fact, you can assume this, if you would like, that the Holy Spirit will be your coach in your Christian life. Jesus told the disciples in John 14, 26, the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. That's the coach, that's the Holy Spirit. As your coach, he issues you a playbook, and it's called a Bible. I know I'm being elementary here, but this is what it is. It's the Bible. And we are instructed to learn our plays by studying the scriptures. 2 Timothy 2.15, be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. If you can rightly divide it, you can wrongly divide it. I would consider a pastor to be the assistant coach. Sometimes you might call him the position coach. That particular individual called a pastor has the task of teaching you the scriptures in privacy in a local church. His job is critical since he's to study, study, study, study, and communicate what he learns from the Bible to his congregation. He's not there to be your crutch. He's not there to be your counselor. He is there to be your authority in regards to the word of God and God's plan for your life. The Bible refers to him as a shepherd and it says we are sheep and he nurtures you, he nurtures me, he feeds us as well as keeps the wolves away. So here's the real question. Will you learn and apply what the Holy Spirit provides through the pastor? I mean, you have volition. You're responsible for your decision and your destiny. I mean, if you show up in church and look at your cell phone and text people, if you sit in the back row and talk to people and don't pay attention, you don't take notes, don't even bring a Bible to church, you're what we call the nod to God crowd. Hello, God. See you next week, God. Thank you, God. Doesn't work, I promise you. The question is, are you going to learn and apply what the Holy Spirit provides through the pastor's message? If you want to be that winner, if you want to receive the wreath of glory that Peter talked about in 1 Peter 5, 4 again, When the chief shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away. Not a crown like the Roman athletes received, the Greek athletes received, but a crown from the Lord Jesus Christ. Then you're gonna have to learn the principles that we will write and teach you in that book that we're printing called Practicing Your Christianity. It's not complicated, it's pretty simple. So the Apostle Paul, leaves us his pattern for victory in 2 Timothy 4, 7, where he says, I fought a good fight. I finished the race. I kept the faith. I fought a good fight. I finished the race. I kept the faith. Normally, you know, we don't want any Elfs on our report card, do we? I mean, I used to get a lot of them in school. My mother would not be happy. My football coach would give me licks for every Elf that we got. Every Elf on our report card, we got three licks. He's trying to keep us eligible so we wouldn't flunk out and not be able to play football. but elfs on your report card in eternity. That's exactly what you need. That's exactly what you want. That's exactly what you have to have. This is what Paul said. I fought, I finished, I kept the faith. Elf, elf, elf. I fought the fight. I finished the race. I kept the faith. There's three else that I want to major on right here. What the winner believer must do to get the wreath of glory. This is important. If you want that crown of glory that fadeth not away, if you want to be recognized as a winner in eternity, this is what you must do. You must fight the good fight. I told you before, you're in a war. You're in the angelic conflict. You're in the arena of contention. Paul said, put on the armor of God so that you can stand against the strategy of the devil. You're in a war, and it's a war for your thinking. I did a radio show recently called Hijacking Your Mind. This is what Satan's very good at, stealing your thoughts away, making you focus on your circumstances and human solutions and things like that. You must be alert, you must be aware that someone is trying to steal your thoughts. whether it's social media influence, whether it's the news, whether it's a politician, they're trying to manipulate you to thinking a certain way or what we call drinking the Kool-Aid. You drink the Kool-Aid, then you're doomed to die. The Kool-Aid is not the word of God, I assure you, because if you drink from the word of God, Jesus said he would give you water of life and you'd never be thirsty again in John chapter four. So Paul said, I fought a fight. I fought the good fight. We need to fight the fight. No wonder Paul encouraged us to strap on the armor of God. We may not be aware of that conflict, but it's every day for your mind. It's every day a temptation. You have a flesh, there's the devil, and there's the world. Three enemies that you face every day. Every day the enemy seeks to distract you. Every day the enemy seeks to discourage you from ever reaching any type of spiritual maturity. Maybe you didn't even know that any such a thing existed. Yes, it does. You start out being a baby, a spiritual baby. You get some spiritual self-esteem. You're able to stand on your own two feet. You get some spiritual autonomy. And then you want to move to spiritual maturity where you can give God maximum glorification in your life. That's what God wants you to do. He doesn't want you to be a baby your whole life. Hebrews 5.11 says this. There's a lot I'd like to teach you, but I can't because you're still a baby, the writer said. You need a bottle. You can't handle strong meat. Christians that have been saved for years and have no spiritual life are still Christian babies. They're not going to get the winner's crown. They're not going to get the winner's wreath. They're not going to hear anyone say, well done, my good and faithful servant, because they were distracted with family. They were distracted with hobbies, distracted with life. I mean, what if God gave you a spiritual gift and you failed to use it? You got distracted and you chased after your dream. Somebody said, oh, look, you can live your dream. You can be this and you can be that. And you put your spiritual life aside to live your dream. Oh, you give God the credit. Oh, yeah, God gave me the ability to do this. Thank you, God, for this. But. When God called you to do something and you didn't step up to the plate and you went in another direction, then you're in trouble. I had to face that in my life as well. I had to determine what are my priorities and what are my passions. It's the same thing in your life too. There's a conflict every day for our mind, a conflict every day for our thoughts, a conflict every day to capture it our way we think. We must fight to the good fight. we must realize there is a battle every day for our thoughts. There's a battle every day for our thinking to pull us away, to discourage us, to defeat us. The next F, Paul said, is I finished the race. Paul's time was up when he wrote this to Timothy. He knew he was going to be executed by the command of Nero, the Roman emperor. But here's what we have to remember. God never takes us too soon. And God never takes us too late. Now, I'm going to tell you, you can go too soon if you die the sin and the death. You get out of fellowship with God, you don't rebound. You go down the my way highway and you're a Christian. You go through warning discipline. You go through intense discipline, and now finally, since you didn't listen, you're of no use, and God brings you home. It's called the sin unto death. You can read about it. It's all throughout the Bible. Acts chapter 5 talks about it, the sin unto death. Listen, are you on that road? Have you been a Christian for years and have not grown? You have not applied yourself. You have not fought the fight. You have not finished the race. Listen. Can you look in the mirror and say, I'm the man or I'm the woman God intended me to be, spiritually speaking? I don't want you to finish the race falling down before you ever get to the finish line. God never takes you too soon. You can redeem the time. You can buy time by growing spiritually. But a call to come home is always God's perfect timing. Job 4, 19 through 27, God's perfect timing. He doesn't make any mistakes. When your call to the front office comes, it's God's perfect timing. Whether you're in fellowship or not, whether you're under discipline or not, if God's through with you, he'll call you home one way or the other. Until then, the idea is to live the plan. Fight the fight. Finish the race. The third F is I kept the faith. Kept the faith. The Greek word for faith is pistis. It's a noun. He didn't proclaim he was faithful. That's the word pistou. Pistou. The word he used here refers to what he believed. It's the recognition and the acceptance of the Bible doctrine in his soul. He never turned away from the truth. He never moved away from what was solid and sound as others did. Listen to 2 Timothy 4.10. For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved the present world. There's somebody that did not keep the faith. You know, I've seen this in my life as a Christian. I've seen people change their mind, change their direction. I've seen pastors that believed one thing, and within two, three months, they believed something else. They changed complete direction in their life. pastors that should know better, pastors that had been taught the Word of God, and all of a sudden, they don't believe that anymore, and they didn't keep the faith. They changed direction. It's very critical for a believer to maintain his direction, maintain his doctrine that he's learned. not to be sucked off down the my way, highway, down to going to something different, going into something that is not God's plan. And it happens every day. You're always being lured every day, pulling you off, pulling you away. You must find that well-qualified pastor and stick with it. Stick with that doctrine that you learn and be consistent. Finish the fight. Finish it. Finish the race. Fight the fight. Keep the faith. Saving faith is what occurs at salvation. Living faith is being faithful to the doctrine we learn and the doctrine that we apply. That's what it is. Hebrews 11, 1 through 3, Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. By faith we understand the world's refrain by the word of God, so that the things that are seen were not made of things which are visible. These three Fs are exactly what God expects out of you. Fight the fight, finish the race, keep the faith. We're not talking about a little choo-choo train trying to get over a mountain saying, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the winner who practices, the winner who does exactly what the Bible says, grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Every time you go to church, you're there to grow. Every time you sit down to listen to the teaching of the Word of God, you're there to grow. How does growth occur? By hearing God. and by applying the Word of God. If you hear it and don't apply it, it doesn't do you any good at all. It's just what the Bible calls knowledge or gnosis, G-N-O-S-I-S. What you need is full knowledge, epinosis, E-P-I-G-N-O-S-I-S. What's the difference in those two words? Well, one of them is knowledge you heard, but you didn't apply. The other is what you heard and applied and believed. That's the faith that it takes to be the winner. That's what God is looking for. People that have had those three Fs, fought the fight, finished the race, kept the faith. Is that you? Are you that sort of individual? I hope you are because that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for those sorts of individuals. It's these winners that we will stand together in eternity and I will applaud you. I'll clap for you. He will tell you, the Lord himself will tell you, well done, well done. I can't imagine seeing you get that wreath of glory placed on your head for being faithful to keep the faith. I pray it'll be you. I pray you're learning. I pray you're listening. I pray you're being motivated to grow in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. That's why the Lord said, take my yoke and learn of me. My yoke is easy. My burden is light. There's a lot to learn. There's a whole lot to learn in the Bible. You'll spend your whole life learning and I'll tell you what you'll discover. The more you learn, the more you know you don't know. That's the way it is. When you get to heaven, you'll figure it all out. So what about it? Are you gonna be a winner? Are you gonna be a loser? Not losing your salvation, no, but losing your crown of glory. Is that gonna be you because you got distracted? Because you didn't fight to fight and finish the race? Is that you? I hope you're listening and I hope you're paying attention. I hope to challenge you with these thoughts, and I hope you will. Contact me if you have a question. Always feel free to do so. PO Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Floodline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
