Join Dana Lash as she delves into a series of bizarre and amusing stories from the Sunshine State in this episode of 'Absurd Truth'. From a man convinced his house was poisoned to an accidental text to the cops instead of a drug dealer, it's a wild ride through Florida. Dana also takes a critical look at the diversity efforts within the Los Angeles Fire Department amidst ongoing national conversations about inclusivity. Her sharp wit and incisive commentary make for a compelling discussion on what it means to fight fires and break down barriers.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So I'm trying to understand. So this is an NBC2 local affiliate out there in Florida. A Cape Coral man was arrested after he claimed that his house was poisoned and attempted to break into another house. How do you poison a house? The victim was seen trying to open a lock sliding door on the back of the home. The victim said he confronted the guy, told him that he was armed. And that's when the intruder ran away from the scene before officers arrived. The guy, Antonio Cruz Aparicio, he was attempting to gain entry into a home. He was yelling for help, saying his house was poisoned. They actually had a tasing to get him under control. And they found his wallet at a separate residence. So He got charged – a couple charges, burglary, resisting with violence. Yeah, that's kind of freaky. Just – I didn't even – I mean obviously they probably did a mental health check on him. This – let's see. Oh, I got a couple of other ones. This is a Florida woman was arrested after she accidentally texted a sheriff's department instead of her drug dealer. That can happen, I'm sure, to people like Octavia Wells, 41 years old. She sent a text message trying to get fentanyl before leaving town. Apparently, though, she accidentally texted a narcotics investigator within the sheriff's office and, oh boy, the investigator adeptly engaged her in conversation, masquerading as her drug dealer, arranged to meet with her. She went to the gas station thinking she was meeting her drug dealer, and instead she was met with a team of investigators, and she was taken into custody because they charged with a whole bunch of stuff. And I don't know if buying with the intent to distribute was part of it, but I don't know. This, let's see, there's a Lee County man that got in trouble for slashing tires following a road rage incident. 37-year-old Matthew Tobler. He was slashing tires of a vehicle, according to Lee County Sheriff's Office, and he was making obscene gestures, hand gestures at nearby motorists. And when... A victim said that he... Why would you approach the vehicle? There was an incident. A victim approached Tobler's vehicle. He got out of the car, began threatening him with a knife, and then started slashing his tires before leaving the scene. So they were able to take... I mean, what the hell is wrong with... I'm going to tell you what. People can't drive. That is for sure. I've got some stories. I actually have a story that happened to me over Christmas that I'll share when I'm able to share it. But yeah, people cannot drive. And let's see. And Saudi Arabia is pressing a Floridian. Well, a man in Florida to give up his U.S. citizenship over critical tweets. It's a Florida retiree. He made social media posts critical of the crown prince. And apparently Saudi Arabia doesn't have the same kind of, you know, speech. Interesting. This is going to make your life easier. And if you, you know, dislike big pharma and you dislike the Rube Goldberg machine, that is our health care system. All family pharma is here for you because they believe in medical freedom and empowering you to take charge of your health. So, for instance, when I got sick over Thanksgiving. Right. And I mean, it's I can't get into your doctor. And if you know, do you want to go to urgent care and pay like a 200 something dollar copay when you could just literally get in touch with all family pharma dot com slash Dana and use code Dana 10 for 10 percent off your entire order. And then you know what you need. You know that you're sick. You know what medication works. You still consult with a doctor and they get it sent out to you and they can send it out to you overnight. There's no red tape. There's no hassle. It's all made in the USA. You're not getting Chinese medicine. OK, you're not getting CCP meds. And you can get comprehensive treatment options like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. They have antibiotics. I got azithromycin because I had a really bad sinus infection and I was sick as a dog. And I got azithromycin overnighted to me. And it just basically made it to where I could still see my family for Thanksgiving. So it was nice. Fast and convenient delivery. Like I said, you can let them know if you need something overnight as well. It is worth it. Visit allfamilypharma.com. and get 10% off with promo code DANA10. There is no other way to get the medicine that you need. Don't wait for Big Pharma's next excuse. Protect yourself and your family today. It's allfamilypharma.com slash DANA and use coupon code DANA10 to save 10%.
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She took time out of her already busy schedule to tell us about her vision for the department's future, one that includes a three-year strategic plan to increase diversity.
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People ask me, well, what number are you looking for? I say, I'm not looking for a number. It's never enough.
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Out of 3,300 city firefighters, only 115 are women right now. She's already looking at ways to change that. She's quick to point out that doing so has a greater purpose, attracting the best and brightest for the job.
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They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part of a cohesive team.
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The chief also checks another box when it comes to inclusivity and diversity at this department. She's a proud member of the LGBTQ community.
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That just kind of opens the door of people that thought, I didn't even know that that was an opportunity for me.
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Oh, man, things that I would rather say right now that I can't. I mean, you know, they could be focusing on firefighting and stuff, but, you know, it's California, specifically L.A., We got to make sure that we include people who have sex a certain way in our hiring process. Like, are they, is it like a job for firefighters or are they also hookers? I don't understand. Yeah. Like how, why does that have any impact on that? Why does that, why is that a consideration on the job? You know, my bosses don't care that I love cilantro. They don't care. They wouldn't care if I dislike cilantro. It's not a thing, right? It's just a preference. This idea that this is somehow you have to include this into firefighting, I just don't understand it. Does it make them fight the fires a better way? Like, does a gay dude fight a fire better than a dude who's not gay? Like, is how well you fight fires predicated upon how you, you know, get it out privately? Like, I'm curious. Is there something I don't know? Is there a study?
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Yeah, I don't think even straight people don't have an advantage over gay people in that regard because that doesn't matter to your firefighting skills.
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I am made of jokes right now. It's taking everything I have. All of my self-restraint right now.
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All of them. The fact that we're arguing this part of it, to me, is beyond absurd.
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I mean, this is stuff they were doing just a few months ago. Yes, it's very important. I don't care if the fire chief is alphabet. I don't care. Can you, I don't know, fight fires? It's very important that we get a fire chief who likes tail. It's very important. And that it's a chick who likes tail. It's very important. And this does what concerning the impact of fighting fires? Absolutely nothing. Then why is it an issue? This is what's so confusing coming from my perspective as someone who was a teenager in the 90s and a young adult going into the early aughts. I was always told, like the rhetoric that we always heard is that what happens behind closed doors is none of your business and stay out of everybody's private lives. But now it's like the doors are flung open and they're having a housewarming party in their bedroom and you're forced to attend and applaud. That's what it's like now. And I just, it's so hypocritical. And it is completely fair to bring these things up and point this out because the fact that that was like a huge goal for them. Do you know they don't have enough firefighters? Adam Carolla was just saying what he reiterated the story that he shared a couple of years ago that he had tried to be a firefighter. And they told him that he had to wait. He was on a wait list to be considered because he wasn't a minority firefighter. We don't need any of you white dudes fighting fires. Oh, my gosh. This is so it's just so weird. It's so weird. I don't know. I'm just that's what they focused on. DEI is going to get everybody burnt up. People will burn to death because of DEI. That's exactly what I just this is just so stupid. So stupid. I was looking at who voted where. So the Palisades... And LA Times had a story where you can go and you can read and see on this map that they have. You go to remove paywall to get around their paywall because I'm not paying them for this stuff. But they were saying that the Palisades, it was pretty close. A lot of them voted for Karen Bass. But barely more of them voted for Rick Caruso. But Karen Bass ended up winning for mayor in LA. So... I mean, and of all the people who are very, very competent, you know, Rick Caruso, billionaire, very successful real estate developer, understands land management, understands all of it. You know, you would think that you would need somebody like that, particularly with wildfires that have been plaguing the area lately. But no, no, they went with Karen Bass, not even in town when all this stuff happens. Remember how the left lost their minds when Ted Cruz went on a previously scheduled spring break trip during ice again a couple of years ago. Karen Bass is legit like at an inauguration in Ghana while her town burns. So shut up. And then Cruz didn't even go. He canceled his portion and stayed, which is stupid. Yeah. And he's yeah. So stupid. So I don't know. Meantime, in Seattle, another city being ravaged by progressivism, who would have thought their $20 per hour minimum wage law is forcing all the restaurants to close? There's five more restaurants that are closing. They have a law where they demand that you pay someone over $20 an hour, $20.76 an hour. And the hospitality industry came out with a prediction that a ton of small businesses will go under as a direct result of that. And so one of those, Belgado Bakery, they posted a sign in its door. They said that they're no longer able to service their customers. They're not able to close that 20% increase in mandated wages and that they're going to have to close their doors. And they're just one of tons of other people, tons of other small businesses that are closing because they can't handle it because it's stupid. to demand 20 over 20 dollars an hour for this is so stupid and i say this is someone i started as a server i my first job was as a server and i worked uh every friday and saturday night and i made a lot of money in tips and i worked really really hard it's an entry-level job and i never expected to be paid 20 an hour mandated that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard You're you're making the market pay overpay for a lower skill set. And that's it is people can get upset about it. But I mean, come on. This is dumb. This is how you get $70 hamburgers. Is this kind of stuff right here? Because people then bitch and moan about capitalism. They don't they don't account their cost into the capitalism when you are forcing businesses. And why stop at $20? When you're forcing businesses to pay, where do you think that cost is coming from? The business doesn't exist just to tickle your jimmies. They don't exist just to, you know, make you happy. It's a business. They're going to pass the cost on. And why stop? Like I said, why stop at $20, an increase in $20? Why don't you give them $50,000 an hour if you really love the poor? If you love the poor so much, you'll give them your salary. Notice how none of those people ever volunteered to do that. It's killing businesses there. But people voted for it, and they'll probably continue to vote for it. It's all the rich progressives that can afford all the stupidity. Our partners who help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Kel-Tec. Kel-Tec, the makers, oh, they invented the micro-compact pistol category. They invented all of that. They're unveiling some new stuff over at SHOT Show as well, which is going to be later this month. That's a private industry event. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So this comes from one of our listeners. It's an Indiana woman. An alleged drunk driver found stuck in the snow. She berated her arresting officers, calling them the devil, and saying they were part of the deep state. Yeah, that's never a good way to try to argue yourself out of getting... She said she only drank three shots of tequila. Come on. Like, were they double shots? I mean, I feel like, you know, I don't know if I'm going to trust her on that. I got to say, I got to be honest. I don't know if I want to trust her on that. AI's next leap requires intimate access to your digital life. No, thanks. Tech companies are trying to race, trying to upgrade. They're racing to upgrade chatbots like chat GPT to even take control of a computer to take action on someone's behalf. I think people need to be really, really careful with this stuff. Just got to say, they said that they're trying to make it better. And that's, you know, that's, that's the need. It's a very ambitious goal. I'm telling you, this is going to turn around. It's going to get out of control and it's going to, it's probably already out of control and we just don't know it. I, you know, it's, when you read some of the editorials talking about need to contain this stuff and they're from programmers in these, really well-known engineers that have contributed so much to the advancements that we see in software programming, etc. It's terrifying when you read some of what these people are saying. A major country has reintroduced strict COVID rules because of another Chinese virus. They said that a number of states are already trying to implement some of this stuff. Chinese government's trying to manage what they say is the surge in cases. There are a couple of countries where they're issuing warnings. And some of these, there's, I think in India they are as well. This is wild to see some of this stuff. I mean, they don't even know what it is, but here they're already making the same mistakes that we've seen, that we saw what they did during COVID. Outcry is an Arizona tattoo shop tattoos a nine-year-old girl who wanted a picture of Trump on her neck. I mean, I'm not against tattoos. Why are you nine and getting a Trump tattoo on your neck? The artist shared video of the process and he said, do a more patriotic tattoo, maybe a flag on your arm or something. But she said, nope, she wants it on her neck. So that's apparently she wanted to get it. Apparently they were able to. I guess she did it on her arm instead. She changed her mind. They traveled to Arizona where kids can get tattoos if they have parental permission. But, you know, if you wanted to chop off your willy and be a chick, then you don't need to tell mom and dad. I mean, that's how the rule is. So she got just a tattoo on her arm of a flag. She wanted Trump on her neck originally, but she ended up getting the still, though. Come on. That's a little that's a little much. Let's see. A Los Angeles vegan chain abruptly closed all their locations. They got in trouble because they added meat to the menu. I'm looking at their food and it looks gross. It looks like dung and some vegetables. Yeah, they ended up, the Sage restaurant, they ended up having to abruptly shut all their locations.
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It's not my expectation to have any conversation at any point today, but we are looking forward to the dialogue to come in the next few weeks and thereafter to find the common ground necessary in order to get things done for the American people. House Democrats believe that we are not sent to Washington to invade Greenland, Rename the Gulf of Mexico or seize the Panama Canal by force. We were sent to Washington to lower the high cost of living in the United States.
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Now you're concerned about it? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Where was this cat at when everyone was like, why are my groceries so expensive? They were acting like it wasn't a big deal. But now all of a sudden they're not. They're no longer going to be in power in a week and a half. So now they're concerned about the high cost of living? Whatever.
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Before November, the economy was great.
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Yeah, it was great. What happened? Well, since that time, Trump isn't even in office yet. He's not even in office yet. That's Hakeem Jeffries. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. I mean, I think I didn't... I don't want expansionism. I didn't vote for expansionism. I voted for America first. And I feel like right now, if it's not anything that we voted for, it's not one of the animating issues around which everyone coalesced, then it needs to be kicked to the back of the list right now. However, I do think it's been funny to watch. I'm torn because I keep thinking, gosh, this is... It's just like, let's focus. But I also think it's funny. I think it's funny because after Trump started talking about it, I don't know what the Danes thought they were doing. But King Frederick, wait a minute, has he been the one? Hold up, hold up, hold up. Is this the guy who got in trouble with his wife? Hold up. Oh, it is. So the Danish king, if you don't know this, and the only reason I know this is because of the trash British tabloids. So Frederick got caught like two years ago. in staying overnight at his Spanish lady friend's apartment. I think they were in Madrid. And they went out and had dinner and did all this, and they went back, and he didn't leave her apartment until the morning. Well, they're old friends, you know. How many of you married out there that would fly? How would that fly? Yeah, just yeah. Uh-huh. Anyway, his wife is Australian, but she speaks the language, and she's very well revered in Denmark. Anyway, so they've had some drama. So Frederick, he's the king of Denmark. His mom abdicated the throne. I think her name's Marguerite. So he took over. And after Trump started talking about all of this, he decided that he was going to change the coat of arms to more accurately reflect Greenland and their important position to the country. So what they did is they made the bear bigger. The Danish coat of arms features a bear, which is the symbol of Greenland, and the ram, and a symbol of the Faroe Islands. And now the bear's bigger. At first, it was just tiny little bears, two little bears in the bottom left panel. And now it's a big, giant bear. And they've got the two dudes with the clubs standing. I just am fascinated by these. So they updated their coat of arms. Like, oh, look what we did. We made the bear bigger. That will show you, Trump. It's not probably the most accurate Danish accent, but it's the best I can do under the circumstances. So do you think that's going to – that just seems silly. Is that silly? It's as silly as what Trump is saying, I think, because I don't give a rat's ass about going into Greenland right now. Can we just make reciprocity a national thing and get rid of taxes? That would be great.
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I see his point on national security. If you got Russian and China ships roaring around up there in North America where there would be a national security concern. I don't see it. And I don't think he's ever articulated it as us going in and invading.
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Yeah. When the hell did it ever happen that it was a priority? Like all of a sudden we're like, OK. We all voted in November, right? We're going to have – we're going to secure the border. We're going to build the wall, right? Yeah. We're going to build the wall. We're going to make groceries affordable again. We're going to make America healthy again. We're going to bring back Mexican Coke for everybody, not the booger sugar but the soda. And then he's like, yeah, OK. The best I can do is Greenland.
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The Pawn Stars.
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And we're all scratching our heads like, what the hell? I didn't. Greenland wasn't. I'm checking notes. Wasn't on the list.
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Well, I know that the Article 1, Section 8 of our Constitution definitely lays out the responsibilities of these who are federal government.
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I think if you're going to make that argument, they got to make the case.
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And that was my next point. If he's not contextualizing why, because we're small government. Why are we expanding government?
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This is expansionism.
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Yeah, this is expansionism. So he's got to contextualize why this is important and why this falls under the purview of the executive branch here as it relates to Article I, Section 8.
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I sure as hell don't want Canada. No offense, Canadians. We got some of you. Listen, I like you guys. And I like that Pierre Polivere. I like him a lot. But I don't want Canada. I don't want it. There's nothing I want up there. Nothing I want. I don't want the damn liberalism. I don't want the crap health care. I don't want all those damn liberal votes. I don't want Canada. Don't want it. Don't want the cold. Don't want the bears. Don't want it. None of it. I'm with it. I hear you. Don't... Don't, uh... They got good syrup. And Canada's not a victim. I mean, Newfoundland. What?
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They've got good lumber and good syrup.
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I don't care about the syrup. I don't even like pancake syrup. I don't even like maple syrup. I don't like it. It's weird. What the hell are you saying? It's tree... juice it's weird you don't like maple syrup no no i'd forever hate i'm gonna be looking at you through don't like i would i'll eat a pancake plain i won't put nothing on it i'm not looking at you the same now for some reason like give me a fruit compote you know but i don't want no syrup on it's weird it's like would you like some diabetes I'm going to pour some diabetes juice all over your pancake, all over your carbs. Yeah.
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I'm not so sure that maple syrup gives you diabetes, does it?
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It has sugar. It's like all sugar.
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Yeah, but it's not like bad refined.
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It's made of sugar and crack.
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Of all the sugars that exist, it's not the worst one out there.
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It's pretty bad, though. You don't need it. You don't need it. It's just, why do we eat it? I don't get that. What the hell do we do some of the stuff that we do? We drink nut milk. It's weird. It's not milk. It's just dirty nut water. That's all it is, right? Like, it's all weird. It's all weird. Why do we do? We are so weird. No wonder that aliens stay hidden. Hell, I wouldn't want to be like these. Oh, I want these people to be my friend. Have you seen us? We're weirdos. No. I mean, I'm a human and I'm like, just no, thank you. Anyway, back to this. I just love this little Danish king, this little lightness loafers looking feller, who's like, I'm going to change the coat of arms. I give you to bed. The bed's bigger now. You can't take Greenland. The bed is bigger. Someone asked, by the way, Lorraine informs me we have a good kind of a raid happening in the show chat, which happens in Rumble, by the way, which you can join. Someone asked if Greenland is going to get named Mara Igloo. A little he cave? I don't know. A little he glue. It's a he glue. Woo! I mean... I just am not interested in the expansionism. But I do think it's hysterical that they're like, oh, yeah, well, we change our coat of arms. Most Americans are like, the hell is a coat of arms? What? What is that even? Like, oh, you made the bear bigger. Nobody knows what that means except those people, right? Like, that's not going to do it. That doesn't create a magical force field around Greenland. Oh, we can't touch him because they made the bear bigger on the coat of arms. There's no more Vikings anymore. Stop. No one's afraid. Good heavens. But I don't want, I don't really think, I don't care. And renaming the Gulf of Mexico, is that going to make the IRS go away? Because if it does, then I'm all for it.
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I'm just interested to find out.
SPEAKER 05 :
We should call it the Gulf of F off is what we should call it. What?
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Well, if we're going to rename it, why not name it the Gulf of America? And by the way, how much work does that actually take?
SPEAKER 05 :
I want to name it something scary so no one wants to come through it. Like the gulf of, there's straight up monsters here. That's the gulf of it.
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Gulf of death.
SPEAKER 05 :
The gulf of death. Just saying. What were you going to say?
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I was going to ask how much effort really goes into renaming it. Are we really wasting a ton of time because we decided to rename the Gulf to Gulf of America?
SPEAKER 05 :
And who do you go to do that? Is there an old man who lives up in a mountain somewhere and you've got to climb all the steps and be like, I would like to change the name of this Gulf. How does that work?
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I think you just declare it, and then the agreement of others makes it so.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, then why can't we just constantly declare stuff?
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I think we do.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't think that's how that works.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think there's a lot of declarations over the years, and a lot of them go against science.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you're telling me the next time I'm fishing out in the Caribbean, if I come across an island that no one else is on, minesies? Why not? I mean, until their military shows up.
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I don't know. Well, if it's somebody's, then yeah, I guess so.
SPEAKER 05 :
But what if it's, is it somebody's? I mean, you're talking about squatting.
SPEAKER 11 :
If it's nobody's, then you got to deal with, you know, entities like China.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm all for saying that the Gulf is ours.
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Pirates.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, pirates aren't as cool as they used to be.
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No.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm all for saying that the Gulf is ours, right? Because it's ours. Like, we're all over there and we're bigger than everybody else. So, you know, step off. But what does that accomplish? Wasn't it the Gulf of Pensacola at one point? I don't know. Was it?
SPEAKER 11 :
I didn't know that. I thought it was named the Gulf of Mexico, and that's their first recorded naming of that area.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just call it the Gulf of your mom and just use that as an insult to every tyrant, every foreign tyrant.
SPEAKER 11 :
It would be a waste of time if government was doing what you're saying.
SPEAKER 05 :
I just don't know what that does. Again, if you're like Dana, do you know that all you have to do to accomplish all these things that you voted for is just change the name of the damn Gulf. Woman, just do it. And I'd be like, okay, I'm convinced. I want to see that magic happen. I'm totally convinced. But right now, you know, I just don't know. I just don't. But I sure as hell don't want Canada. All right. Okay. I don't want them.
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But I envision Trump having his daily list like this to-do, this honey-do list every day from his day one. You know what I mean? And I think like number 12 on that list is probably renaming the Gulf. I don't know.
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I do think it's funny that Denmark decided to immediately give Greenland a whole bunch of money for defense. Right. I don't know if you guys saw this, but hang on, let me pull this up. This is hysterical. So Denmark, after Trump was saying all this stuff, they boosted Greenland's defense after Trump started talking. So they sent a package that they said was in the double-digit billion amount. In Kron, the Danish defense minister, Trostland Poulsen, I know. I'm doing the best I can with the Danish. I can't do it. Everything sounds like that guy from the Frozen movie. It's a double-digit billion amount. It's only a fate. So they said that they were planning all of a sudden a stronger presence into Arctic, is what they're saying. So they're including increasing staffing at Arctic Command in the capital of Nuuk, which is right where Junior went. I can't do a Danish accent. Nuke. I can do like 10 accents really well, and that's about it. This is not one of them. They said that it's going to be about $12 to $15 billion, or krone. And it was the day after Trump was trolling about it on Truth Social. So now all of a sudden they just decided, oh, we're just going to boost the defense here. That's all. I don't know. But... Is I'd not say I what if that was the goal? Everything is so stupid and crazy. What if it was the goal? Because if that was the goal to get these nations to spend more on their own defense, then why not just threaten all of them with with taking them over? And then they'll be like, oh, we'll spend all these NATO nations will suddenly start contributing more to their self-defense. So they don't have to be our welfare children anymore. I'm just saying, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Let's just accomplish what we need to accomplish now and then later. But changing the coat of arms is hysterical.
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Join us this week as we unravel the complexities behind the California fire crisis, exploring the stark realities faced by residents and first responders. Amidst the chaos, we hear personal accounts of survival against nature's fury and examine the disconnect between political rhetoric and actionable solutions. As flames threaten iconic locations like the Pacific Palisades, what are the underlying causes, and how do they relate to broader environmental policies? Our episode not only highlights the stark challenges on the ground but also critiques the political and bureaucratic frameworks at play. Can reforms in land and resource management prevent future devastation? Delve into this critical dialogue, as we seek understanding amid the ashes.
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My heart goes out, obviously, to the people with their homes, and I'm watching the small businesses around us go up in flames. This is people's livelihoods, so it's devastating. But what is most concerning to me is our first responders and our firefighters who are trying to battle this, there's no water in the Palisades. There's no water coming out of the fire hydrants. This is an absolute mismanagement by the city. Not the firefighters' fault, but it's by the city. And I'm gonna be very honest, we've got a mayor that's out of the country, and we've got a city that's burning, and there's no resources to put out fires. So if you look at your pictures,
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you don't see the firefighters there because there's nothing they can do and it looks like we're in a third world country here we have well over 5 000 acres that have burned and the fire is growing we have no percentage of containment we have an estimated 1 000 structures destroyed and also no reported fatalities and a high number of significant injuries to residents who did not evacuate. In addition to first responders who are on the fire line, we have over 1000 personnel assigned and the cause of the fire is unknown. However, it is under investigation.
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Yeah, but the way that you hear the left talk about it, they act like it's all because of climate change and all of this when, first off, that's stupid. There's a major seasonal wind that's blowing through. And it's this idea of why they always have to make it about climate change. You know, can you just maybe, I don't know, contain the fire before you start pimping off it? It just seems like maybe contain it first. That's a thought. Contain it first. And then... Then you can try to do your political pimping. But this idea that – because that's all I've seen from anybody about this lately is, oh, it's all climate change. It's this. It's – well, and we're going to talk about some of the causes of this. I've got some flashback articles for you because, I mean, there's definitely – you can definitely – Look at some of the headlines and come to a conclusion about maybe what some of the cause might be, but it's definitely not climate change. So welcome to the program. We've got a lot of stuff to get into. That's just some of the latest with you. How many separate fires are there out there? Yeah, I can't, I can't even, I can't even, there's several separate fires. And then they said that there's, it's now, it's going down, the fire is now going down towards the Pacific Coast Highway. It's like right near Malibu. There are a lot of people that we know. that have homes there that are being impacted. And, you know, obviously we're praying for everybody there. I mean, it's just terrifying. And those things, the fires because of the winds, I was reading that they actually can move at the speed of something. I read something like it's a football field or a couple football fields a second. Yeah. That's when those winds start gusting, that it moves as fast as a couple of, or like a football field a second, something to that effect. Because you're talking about thousands and thousands and thousands of acres that are burning here. So pretty unbelievable, pretty unbelievable scenes that are coming out of L.A. And You know, like we said, we've got listeners in the area, and it's just some of the video. I think one of the most viral videos currently that's going through, and I think Juan's getting ready to show some of it, is the guys that are in there. There's two guys and a dog. And it's... Yeah, this is what he's showing us. So there's two guys and a dog, and it's in the Pacific Palisades. And they were able to get out to safety. But, I mean, it didn't look like it. And you're seeing that video right now. It didn't look like it because that's unbelievable. The fires were whipping around their house there in the Pacific Palisades. And it's just... It's a terror. It's just truly... It's terrifying. And they said that... Even if you're planning, like they were apparently planning to evac anyway, and that the speed that the fires were moving made it to where it was, I mean, it was impossible for them to get out in a timely fashion. I mean, you're watching it right now. That's terrifying. Just whipping around. the home. And a lot of it too, you know, you're on kind of, you know, rocky terrain and you're seeing A lot of the brush, a lot of the low-lying brush and a lot of the... You know, in the canyons, apparently, California has had a big fight with people who've been trying to do some controlled burning to control some of the underbrush and all of this that you've seen. I feel so bad for the dog in this video, too. I mean, yes, the people, but that poor dog has no idea what's happening. What is happening? Can you imagine how hot that is? I mean, it's unbelievable. So... That's one of the things that we're following. Welcome to the program. Dana Lesh with you, top of this first hour. If you wanted to know where the Los Angeles mayor was, I'm pulling up this story that I was reading. It's from the other day, a couple of days ago. Karen Bass is the mayor of Los Angeles. She's going to be, she's in Ghana. She's attending the inauguration of Ghana's president. She went with the director of the Office of Management and Budget. And yeah, they went to Ghana. They're in Ghana right now, chilling. And in the meantime, Gavin Newsom got blasted. He was conducting, I guess, a photo op. I mean, he was there, I guess, with some of his staffers. And he was conducting, I guess, having a little photo op there. While he was standing outside looking at the fires. I mean, I'm looking at some of this now. I mean, it's just it's unbelievable. And he was also one of the people who has previously tried to downplay a lot of the debates as it relates to control burning and land management, etc., etc., etc., I don't know how he or Karen Bass politically survived this. It is one of the, I mean, these fires that keep happening. Like, for instance, I have a piece here. Let me pull this piece up. This is from, it's a flashback. This is a piece that was local media there. It was published in October this fall. The headline is Forest Service halts prescribed burns in California. Is it worth the risk? U.S. Forest Service directed its employees in California to stop the prescribed burning for the foreseeable future. They said that it's meant to preserve staff and their equipment to fight wildfires if needed. And they had a crucial fall window for planned, controlled burns. And that was going to remove fuel and protect homes. And they said that some people were saying, well, is it going to increase long-term fire risks, which is a dumb argument. But, I mean, you have to be able to get rid of the fuel for these fires. I mean, that's just all there is to it. This is something that they apparently they stopped. So that's not the only flashback. I mean, I have a ton of them. But, you know, another example in terms of what they're spending their money on. You were hearing a lot of these people, local media and people who celebrities in L.A. and in and around in L.A. They were saying that certain of the like the hydrants were dry or certain reservoirs are running dry. Why are they spending their money on in California? You know that you have to deal with this every fall and every winter. What are you spending your money on instead? Well, here's the, from the California High Speed Rail X account, the Fresno River Viaduct in Madeira County, one of the first completed high speed rail structures. Oh, they got a piece of it built. Now it can't go anywhere. It's just a strip of it. Just a strip of rail. I can't believe that they weren't embarrassed when they posted this. They did 1,600 feet and it took them decades to do it. They spent 1,600 feet for a train that can't go anywhere yet. Billions of dollars. You're seeing the image right there, Juan, showing it to you. That was billions of dollars and it took over a decade to build. And it's just that strip. You could not make this up if you tried. 1,600 feet of And what gets me is someone was trying to correct in the comments. They were trying to, like, save face and say, well, you know, it was $9 billion to build. And someone said, well, $9 billion, you know. They were really careful not, you know, to stick to, which is a lie, to stick to budget. And then California High Speed Rail bumped in. They said, to clarify, it's actually $12.5 billion. So people, they were actually under, I mean, you can see the image. It's the dumbest damn thing ever. 1,600 feet, $12.5 billion in a decade. And they built one-fourth of a mile of a completely unusable overpass. This is what California spends their money on. This is what they're spending their money on. There's tons of that, tons of these instances, all of the all of the California politicians that really made a lot of money off this. Just unbelievable. So this is you know, it's these are expected to be catastrophic fires. They're saying that it's going to be, I think, something of what. were as bad as the 93 fires everybody keeps throwing out a different year i i don't live in california but everybody keeps throwing out even californians keep throwing out a different year it's just wild dry hydrants i mean you look at some of these headlines people are complaining about the dry hydrants they backed a seven and a half billion dollar water bond and that was back in 2014 And then what this was, this piece was last year. The LA Times wrote this piece. No water projects have been built in California. Don't worry, they're moving slowly. Like, oh, it's happening. They're just apparently not happening fast enough. This is what they're dealing with out there. And then you hear the complaints about the insurance out there. So in the Palisades area, There are a number of people that have said that they had their home insurance policies canceled. And one of the reasons that insurance companies were canceling the policies is because one apparently was cited as saying that there was not being enough preventative work done to. potentially contain future fires. We're talking about land management, et cetera. You keep having fires that are occurring in the same, you know, fairly close to each other places. And it's, I mean, what's being done? What's being done about it? They're allowing the overgrowth. I mean, these policies are getting people's home insurance canceled. There's a friend that was saying that his in-law's home burned down back in 2010, and they were underinsured, and they couldn't afford to rebuild. And then after that, a lot of people, there was a whole spate of cancellations, and then after that, there were more cancellations. I mean, Gavin Newsom is one of the absolute worst things that's ever happened to Californians. I... So if you think this right here, Republicans need to get smart because 2028 starts now. You guys better be tacking this on his board because he's running. He's running in 2028. And you can watch California right now. Those are those plans that are enabling the disaster that you're seeing in California. That's what he wants to impart on all of the United States. So Republicans better be checking stuff while they're talking about Greenland and all this other damn stuff. You better be looking at what's happening to California because that could spread to the rest of the country, those policies. It's our friends over at Super Beats, the Super Breen product. You guys are very familiar with Super Beats. It's the number one beet product in the country. And Super Breen, this is like one of their newer products. It helps to support metabolism and blood sugar levels. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So a second winter storm is threatening parts of Texas with heavy snow. Yeah, and ice. Everything is supposed to begin. Why are they saying Wednesday? Because I was told that it wasn't supposed to happen. I'm looking at the weather report right now. They were originally saying that it was going to happen on like midnight Thursday. But now it might. Don't stop this. Now it might move in earlier. Shut up. No. So we got fire on L.A. We've got. Snow and ice. The headline is Dallas could see historical snowfall in upcoming winter storm. It could deliver more than a year's worth of snow to Dallas. They say per AccuWeather that the city's historical average snowfall is 1.6 inches. That includes sleet. This is going to bring two to three times that amount in hours from Wednesday night to Thursday night. between 9 p.m. Wednesday and 7 a.m. Friday. That's the 54% chance of seeing 3 to 6 inches of snow. If you think that that's not going to bother you, guess what's a major hub in Dallas that's going to totally shut down? American Airlines. So get ready for flight fun. If you're flying, you're going to get screwed over. I'm just letting you know now, so I need you to go in there with the full expectation of that. A man was found frozen to death at a bus stop as a winter storm killed six, and Americans braced for the second round of bitter cold and snow. It's winter storm Blair. That's a perfect name for the storm, Blair. Memory is not exclusive to the brain. Non-neural cells also remember, according to a new study. So basically, things like your kidney cells can learn. and retain, I guess, that pattern that they've learned, so they technically have a memory. Horrific AI images reveal what men will look like, I don't even want to see the women, in 30 years due to an ultra-processed food diet. They're going to look like Chris Christie. That's ultimately what they're going to look like. These horrific AI images, like they're honked over, they look bad. Juan's getting ready to show you. Tell me that this doesn't look like Chris Christie. It looks just like him. Yeah, completely just like him.
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Like after a night of drinking.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So coming up, Trump announces an investment into data centers here in the United States. Are those going to be H-1Bs? We're going to talk about that. We're also going to get into the fact checkers are freaking out over the fact checking business. And it is a business. We got that and so much more. Stick with us. It's our friends over at Kel-Tec. Kel-Tec, the makers, oh, they invented the micro compact pistol category. They invented all of that. They're unveiling some new stuff over at SHOT Show as well, which is going to be later this month. That's a private industry event. But they have, you know, whether it's the P-15, whether it's the P-11, the P-32. I mean, they've really changed the way people conceal carry and they have, you know, an entirely new category of high performance KSG shotguns as well. The fold and have carbine family, the sub two K's, all kinds of awesome stuff that they've come out with. And they're going to come out with something new later towards the end of this month. And we'll we'll have it. You can also visit Caltech weapons dot com slash Dana and sign up for that Caltech insider campaign. e-newsletter, and I see all their social media posts, et cetera, and that's where you can get updates on the latest. Innovation Performance Caltech, caltechweapons.com slash Dana.
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And so it'll be 217 to 215, which means they cannot afford to lose a single vote. And they've already suffered the defection of Congresswoman Sparks from Indiana, who got so mad about the fact that she wasn't put on the committee she wanted, that she has left the Republican conference and is an independent now. We haven't even started deliberations yet. So I think we're going to be in good shape to exploit some of the conflicts and contradictions going on within the Republican conference. I think you probably saw, John, that the enraged nativist racist mega base is upset with Elon Musk and the prologarps who want to bring in tens of thousands more cheap foreign laborers. And so that's something that's already starting to explode in terms of the republican politics but
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So that's Jamie Raskin, who's not saying anything that I haven't talked about or that I think is like shocking or not predictable. But he's hitting on something that is important. And that's what I talked about this on Jesse Waters program last night. It's the unity on the right. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this first hour. This is exactly how things will get gummed up if Republicans aren't careful. you will have infighting, which we've already started to see some of it. And that can be, it can be helped. Look, it does have to start from the top down. It does, guys. It really needs to start from the top down. And I think that they need to get a handle on any kind of, everybody's got to be on the same page. We've already seen two or three slips so far. Like one where, you know, you had Vance saying that he didn't have to go and vote for this bill while Trump was on true social, saying all senatorship, stuff like that. Everybody needs to get on the same page. Don't give the left an inch. But here's the big thing. What Raskin's alluding to right there is the difference between a party and a coalition. And I'm not going to lie, it's uncomfortable. I have we've never grown up. We don't have parliamentary style politics in this country. We use some of the maneuvers in the Senate, you know, and some in the House. But by and large, we have a party system in a republic and we don't have to make coalitions with other groups. Well, previously, we really didn't. We were just like, if you want most of what you want, then, you know, you you better come and vote for us or that's you know, you don't really have anybody else. But it's twofold. We've we have people who aren't used to coalition style building in politics. A lot of people talk about it, but they don't really do it. And you have people who don't know how to manage and lead coalitions. It's a combination of two things. It's very difficult to do because everybody wants their back scratched. And you end up getting people who agree on 80% fighting over the 20%. That's Reagan's infamous rule. My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy. And you really need to walk that walk now. especially now because it's not all kittens and sunshine. I know the right wants to exhale and go back and go on vacation because in November, oh, we won it. Yeah, that's it. That's right, right? No, that's when the work starts. I mean, a free republic doesn't mean a free ride, right? Everybody's got to pitch in. Just as I don't like welfare welfare, I don't like welfare activism either. I don't like outsourcing activism to just a certain group of people. Everybody's got to take hold. And if you don't, then everybody shares the blame. So it's difficult when you have not grown up with or are accustomed to coalition politics because you have all these different factions. You have the Make America Healthy Again faction, the Make America Great Again faction, the Libertarian faction, the religious right, the agnostic right, the pro-life, hardcore pro-life faction. You have the kind of like moderate Republican faction. You've got all these different groups. And what needs to be done immediately first and foremost are all of the things that they came together on. People got to remember why they came together to vote the way that they did in the first place. This is incredibly important. It's, it's, and it's difficult. And a lot of people, one of the things that Trump's chief of staff said, Susie Wiles, that she had said to, uh, I think it was Axios. She granted a rare interview to Axios and she talked with him and said that, uh, You know, she's telling people she's trying to get control on all the leaks. And there was a story that came out where she was telling people, don't do this, that this is about self aggrandizement. That's not how she put it. Don't do it if it's like if you're just trying to enrich yourself or if you're trying to be a star. She's like mission first. I think that's incredibly an incredibly important message to set right from that inner circle all the way down, because you have that faction in the right to. Everybody's got to remember why they came together to vote the way they did in the first place. And when, like, for instance, the H-1B thing. This is where moves from the administration can make it difficult to keep the coalition together. Trump announced yesterday that they are getting this massive, what is it, a $50 billion? I can't remember. It's a $50 or $90 billion donation from this United Arab Emirates businessman who's done a lot of stuff with the Trumps before. They've worked on hotels together. It's not like they don't know the guy. But the problem that it that it can create is these are going to be data centers in a number of different states. I think they said like Texas is one of them. There's a number of different states. And well, it was going to be at least 20 billion, but I think it's going to be up more than that, according to CNBC. Hussein Sajwani is the Emirati billionaire. He's with Daymac Properties. He's the one who's going to be pledging the money to foreign investment to build data centers across the U.S. And Sejuani gave an interview. He's a Trump associate. He gave an interview in which he said they'd been waiting to do this for a few years because they didn't want to do it under the Biden administration because it's just been I mean, Biden's just very into business. So the first phase of the plan is going to take place in Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan and Indiana. And Sajwani, he said that, you know, we've been waiting four years to increase our investment to very large amounts of money. He said this when he was meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago. He told the press this. So in addition to that, you have SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son, who announced plans to invest $100 billion in the U.S. and create 100,000 jobs over the course of Trump's four-year term. So here's my question. Are these H-1B visas? Because the data center is exactly what typically those are. And I ask this because America first means Americans first. American jobs first. We have a ton of people over here. And if you have foreign workers who are willing to come in on H-1Bs to work for less than what American workers are, and that's what's ultimately gutting the jobs in the sector. So no one's talking about that. No one's mentioned that. I don't know if I mean, I don't even think that there were any reporters that asked follow up questions about that. That's incredibly important because the issue isn't just illegal immigration. The issue is also an unsustainable amount of people that are allowed. A lot of it's these H-1B, the tech where it's not a specific special. I mean, it's like a low it's like low, low level software engineering, things like that. So that's, I think that needs to be addressed. And the reason I bring that up is because the right just had a big old fight about this over Christmas. Do not think for one second that Raskin and his underlings within Congress aren't going to exploit that. And it's an easy thing to exploit. If I were on the left and I wanted to divide my opponent and weaken them through division, I would be hitting this six ways to Sunday. I would be running ads about it it would be mentioned, it would be on the lips of every single politician of my party affiliation. And then maybe I would find and hold a press conference with some of these exact type of workers who would work at these jobs, but have them be American workers and then talk about how American workers, they need American jobs and et cetera, et cetera. That's what I would do. So this is where Republicans have to be careful, because it doesn't help if you have leadership or anybody else give the impression that there are to be big, giant divisions within the right. There's things that everybody came together on. And look, Republicans are historically weak on immigration anyway. I don't want anyone to get over their skis and think that people somehow believe or anybody believes that Republicans have been contributed to this problem. That's a lie. They absolutely have. So why would we do it more? It's my question. That's one of the things we've got to be careful of. To be very, very careful of stuff like this. That's why everybody needs to get on the same page. You know, we need to start and the first things that have to be accomplished are exactly that which brought everybody together. Because it's not just about Trump. Actually, it's not even about Trump. It's supposed to be about the voter and it's supposed to be about American principles. When you that you have a greater chance of success and you actually can deaden the blows that befall the administration by actually altering and correcting the perspective on this. So, of course, they're going to seize this and they're going to try to exploit all of this stuff. But again, you cannot give they cannot got to focus on just what brought everybody together. And then after you accomplish that, everything else, because he's got he's got six months. Now, another case in point, you know, the Lake and Riley Act that passed. There were a number of Democrats. Actually, this is in, I'm pulling up my sub stack. I sent this out. If you're a subscriber to my newsletter on sub stack, chapter and verse, you have this. This is one of the, and this is the reason why I wanted to put this story in here. This is the Democrats that changed their vote. A handful of Democrats changed their vote on the Lake and Riley that passed the House yesterday. That's very significant. You had 48 Democrats, and it's more than the number who voted for it last year. It's going to be sent to the Senate at past 264 to 159. There were a number of Democrats previously who had opposed it, who changed their vote after election. So this is why I'm telling you he's got six months. Midterms? Yes, they're in two years. But how long is that election cycle, folks? Do you honestly think that some of these House members and some of these purple states, either Democrat or Republican, wherever they're at right now, they're going to run right back to the center in six months? You have six months to take advantage of this power, leverage it before all of these elected officials start getting too scared of their own shadow to do anything ahead of their midterm election. It has to be done now. This is incredibly important. So that's why I know everyone wants to talk about Greenland and everything. And I'm not discounting that Greenland is, you know, you have a lot of natural resources and the situation of where it is. I just that has not been a national topic of conversation, nor has it been brought to the American people as a problem we should consider. America first didn't mean expanding America. It doesn't mean expanding government. That's not the it's not expansionism. That's not what it is. I mean, it's not like what I voted for. So I'm just saying focus on the stuff that everybody came together to vote for in the first place. That should be the only mission for the first six months. Get through that. Get through midterms. And then you can focus on all this other stuff. I don't want to help rasking out. I don't want these Democrats to be aided by mission creep. That's incredibly important right now. You know, I made mention of it last night, too. One of the things that I think actually helps, even though I saw people making fun of him for it yesterday when Trump was talking about the low flow shower heads and all of that, we were kind of we were laughing about it here. You know, we were we thought it was funny. But do you know, that's actually kind of important because that's something that can immediately impact average everyday Americans across the country. People who've seen their water bills increase because of the stupid stuff. The stuff that's supposed to conserve resources actually makes you use more of it and makes the resources more expensive. So that has immediate impact. That's something that shows people, oh, there's progress. There's stuff happening. There's things happening. So those are good things to do. But we got to stay focused because six months in the midterm start and elected officials are scared of their shadows again. We got a lot to hit, including the fact checkers freaking out. We've got that for you. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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There's a lot of talk about Greenland, for example. And I know there's a lot of freak outs, you know, and of course I would never support taking it by force. But I do think it's a responsible conversation if they were open to acquiring it and, you know, whether just buying it outright. I mean, if anyone think that's bonkers, it's like, well, remember the Louisiana purchase? I think Alaska was pretty aggressive. deal to fifty million dollars i think it was it was record uh... it was uh... it was referred to as a sewers folly and now that was alaska now so i mean you know open having all kinds of conversations uh... is well and now i don't think we need it's not helpful to freak out uh... but uh... some things might work out some may not but that's part of ongoing dialogue but he hasn't even take office in two weeks and you know we really need to Pace ourselves if we're going to freak out over every last tweet or every last conversation or press conference.
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I mean, dang. I've never seen anybody. I mean, I've seen people come back from strokes, you know, and be really healthy, etc. But he's like the new and improved Fetterman. Dude. You don't even know how to say that. You don't have to keep saying it.
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He's so correct that Democrats don't like it.
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It's just, you know, good heavens. He's so accurate in that soundbite. Now, that doesn't mean that we need the woke right to run up to him and make him the new messiah of the right. But, you know, it gives me hope in that some of the people with whom I disagree with on a lot of things, maybe they're not that far gone. You know? Yeah. I don't know. It's real weird. I don't know how to... Because I'm so used to being on the defense with Democrats. And then when they say things that I'm like, wait a minute. Which one of us had the health issue? Because you sound correct right now. What's happening here? Stop being on defense. I know. No, I can't help it. Well, I can be both at the same time, offense and defense. But what if you just won't want to be on the fence? I don't know how. We got a lot more on the way. Second hour coming up. The fact checkers are losing their minds, you guys. Losing their minds! We got that and more. Stick with us. Folks who help bring you the program, partners of ours. It's the non-firearm firearm, Burna Gun. What Burna does, the Burna Gun emits chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. And it's a great diverse option for self-defense when your options are limited through no choice of your own, whether it's a gun-free zone or whatever it is. You want to make sure that you have a little bit of diversity and that you're able to protect yourself so you're not becoming a statistic. I have a lot of friends who live in areas where they really try to control what you can and can't carry. And they've gone out and gotten the Berna SD, which is Berna's most popular model. It's a lot. It's a model that a lot of law enforcement is incorporating as well to have a diverse array themselves. Five round capacity against chemical irritant projectiles. There's different models. That's just their most popular one. And the other thing is that it doesn't care about gun for his own science. It's illegal in all 50 states. No background checks, no permits. They can ship it right to your door. so it's accessible to everybody. This is the perfect time, new year, new you, to reevaluate your self-defense options. Visit Byrna.com slash Dana. That's Byrna.com slash Dana to get 10% off your purchase.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this second hour and been following a lot of things, including these raging wildfires out in California. Catastrophic. I mean, they said most of what is a Pacific Palisades, most of that area is gone. That's how bad it is. And the wind gusts in some parts. are 70 miles, some 80 miles an hour, some 90 miles an hour, depending on where you are, I guess around whatever canyon. And I have friends who live in the area. Some have evacuated and they've said that like when they would just try to go outside and, even just to open the door to see where the smoke was, like the wind would almost rip the door off the hinges. It was that crazy. They always have wind in that, but they said this is really unusual, the winds that are just really pushing this around. So we're praying for everybody there. We've got a lot of people in our listening audience out there as well. It's a scary thing because it spreads fast. There were stories of people who were getting ready, who were doing what they're supposed to do and they're evacuating, but then the winds would pick up. And the fire moved in so fast that they're not even they weren't able to like get everything and get out or they were able to barely just get out. They said that they move. It's like a football field a second or something crazy. I can't even imagine that. I can't even imagine that. That's insane. So we're watching all of this. Welcome back again to the program. I wanted to play some audio for you. This is flashback audio because one of the big, you know, I know everybody in California is dealing with all of that, but people in D.C. are immediately trying to politicize it. And you have the left out there, people like Bernie Sanders saying it's it's because of climate change and it's because of this and that, which come on. But actually, there's there's audio that that's out there and we have this. Where Trump was he this was a couple of years ago, a few years ago, he was telling Gavin Newsom back when he was president about the need for California to send more water downstate and incorporate better land management practices. Something that Newsom never did. They spent billions on a high speed rail project that went nowhere. Listen to this. This is audio somebody 10.
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And you have so much water. And all those fields that are right now barren, the farmers would have all the water they needed. And you could revert water up into the hills where you have all the dead forests, where the forests are so brittle. Because no place is like California. I go to Austria. The head of Austria tells me, you know, we have trees that are much more flammable than what you have in California. We never have forest fires because they maintain their forests. and you have all that water that could be used to, that's what they call water flow, where the land would be damp. And you'd stop many of these horrible fires that are costing billions and billions of dollars by the federal government, etc. So one thing I'm going to do for California, vote for me, California. I'm going to give you safety. I'm going to give you a great border. And I'm going to give you more water than almost anybody has. And the farmers up north are going to be able to use 100% of their land, not 1% of their land.
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He's not wrong. I mean, it's he's not wrong. And what did Gavin Newsom and Democrats do? Well, they didn't really do anything. They they well, they spent twelve and a half billion dollars on sixteen hundred feet of rail that took 10 years to build that you can't actually put a train on because it's just one unusable overpass in the middle of a field, not even making it up. They spent a lot of money, billions upon billions of dollars on this rail project, which honestly was just a way for them to enrich themselves off the taxpayer. They don't really do. I mean, they haven't done a whole lot with regards to they did some controlled burns a year ago, which, by the way, I would correct myself. That was when Trump was out there speaking about this. But a little bit before when he went out there, they had some controlled burns in and around Malibu. but they apparently do not do them enough to what U.S. Forestry had asked. And a lot of this stuff, and this is really important to note, a lot of times there's a difference between state-controlled land, obviously, and federally-controlled land. And apparently... This their water management obviously is a major issue, but these fires by and large start on federal land. I had a friend who made this point and then I was went and looked back at previous fires when they when they go and they look at and they come up with a forensic summation of everything. A lot of a lot of them start on federal land. And federal land, that's a whole other issue. The land management on federal land in these areas. And apparently under Joe Biden, they were canceling right and left very important controlled burns. And this was just as recently as fall. I shared one of those stories with you. Forest Service halts prescribed burns in California. They're worried about the risk. They're willing to trade the risk for increased risk on wildfires. If something bad happens, they're much less likely to be blamed because they can point the finger at Mother Nature. Wow. They were canceling some of what they were. One of the reasons that that was given, they were trying to what is like an environmental reason or they were trying some fish or what? I don't even care. Gavin Newsom, there's video of him bragging about how they altered their water. What is this like their whole system of getting water downstate because they were trying to save some damn fish or something like that? Yeah. I just, I don't know. It's amazing to me how so many years of Democrat administration in this state, every single time there is a wildfire that is beyond containable, You can always look and see some land management policies here, some land management policies. I read stories that people are looting. They're not looting. They're getting bread. That's what we were told by all the people who can I just say the people who live in these areas when we had the summer, the hot summer series burn loop murder. And people were busting into stores. I was told by the left that this was just these people getting bread. So are they just looting these mansions in Pacific Palisades for bread? That's what I was told. That's what looting is. It's not looting. That's a very mean term.
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It's mostly peaceful procurement, I think is what they call it now.
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Yeah. Peaceful and voluntary procurement. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah. PIP. PIP. A little PIP. little peaceful involuntary procurement happening here that's what it is we're going they're just out there pipping pip in there's no m in it no there's no m i don't know what the m would be yeah peaceful involuntary procurement big pipping that's it so they're just out there getting bread that's what i was told right that that's what it's i i The president currently and first lady are apparently going to... They're at Cedars-Sinai for the birth of their first grandchild, apparently. Or great grandchild. The birth of their first great grandchild. So they're... I guess they're out there. So they're going to recognize that grandbaby. That's a great grandbaby that gets recognized. Just saying. I don't know. This whole thing is pretty amazing. And... The insurance disaster is because so many of these homes were uninsured because of this type of stuff. One of the real estate developer named Rick Caruso, he called into L.A. local news. He said it was like a third world country. There's no water coming out of the fire hydrants. L.A. Mayor Karen Bass is on a foreign trip to Ghana, which she is. She's there for the inauguration of their president. Is she ever actually in L.A. when stuff goes sideways? Wasn't she out the last time that they had? Yeah, I thought so. I thought so. So, it's terrifying. We're praying for everybody there. But I'm telling you, I don't know what they're spending their money on. Well, I got some ideas. I gave you the example of one high-speed rail thing. How they spent maybe, what? It was $12.5 billion on 1,600 feet. The high-speed rail that they announced in 2010... It's 2025. They have spent over $130 billion taxpayer dollars, and it's been over 15 years, and they have 1,600 feet of an unusable overpass. That's all they have. Okay. Wow. And this guy, he wants to run for president. So just look at, he's their golden boy in 2028. It's Gavin Newsom. He's their guy. Look at California. Do you want that for all over the US in 2028? Because that's what you're going to get. I mean, you even have hardcore like celebrity Democrats that don't like him out there. I want to switch gears because we're going to be we're going to continue to watch this stuff. But we've got to talk about the fact checkers. I'm telling you what, I have to admit, I did not know how much money these people made. Did you guys know this? They were making a lot of money on fact-checking. So, for instance, there were some... I don't even want to say the name of the site. It's like a bunch of Republicans that aren't really Republicans. They just have Trump derangement syndrome. And they created a right-leaning website. And they apparently were hired by, I guess, Facebook. And they were acting as... fact-checkers for Facebook. And it ended up being something like over 5% of what they made. That's how much money they made. And you guys know the fact-checking stuff was stupid. I mean, even on my personal Facebook page, I would be fact-checked over stuff. It's asinine. But they, Peter Hassan, did a deep dive into this. PolitiFact, for instance, is so mad. They had a very cushy gig and they got it's unclear, he says, the exact amount that they were being paid, but they made a lot of money. They got a lot of revenue off of pull it off of PolitiFact for Facebook. They made a lot of money. Meta paid them to do they paid them to fact check memes for crying out loud to fact check like the Babylon Bee. They said that, so there were organizations that contributed more than 5% of total PolitiFact revenues. Meta was like their top. That's crazy. And they're mad because they were getting money for just being contrarians. That's it. And they were garbage. I mean, they were the people responsible, for instance, for my page being targeted. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So this comes from one of our listeners. It's an Indiana woman. An alleged drunk driver found stuck in the snow. She berated her arresting officers, calling them the devil and saying they were part of the deep state. Yeah, that's never a good way to try to argue yourself out of getting... She said she only drank three shots of tequila. Come on. Like, were they double shots? I mean, I feel like, you know, I don't know if I'm going to trust her on that. I got to say, I got to be honest. I don't know if I want to trust her on that. AI's next leap requires intimate access to your digital life. No, thanks. Tech companies are trying to race, trying to upgrade. They're racing to upgrade chatbots like chat GPT to even take control of a computer to take action on someone's behalf. I think people need to be really, really careful with this stuff. Just gotta say. They said that they're trying to make it better and that's the need. It's a very ambitious goal. I'm telling you, this is going to turn around. It's going to get out of control and it's probably already out of control and we just don't know it. When you read some of the editorials talking about need to contain this stuff and they're from programmers in these really well-known engineers that have contributed so much to the advancements that we see in software programming, etc. It's terrifying when you read some of what these people are saying. A major country has reintroduced strict COVID rules because of another Chinese virus. They said that a number of states are already trying to implement some of this stuff. Chinese government's trying to manage what they say is the surge in cases. There are a couple of countries where they're issuing warnings. And some of these, there's, I think in India they are as well. This is wild to see some of this stuff. I mean, they don't even know what it is, but here they're already making the same mistakes that we've seen, that we saw what they did during COVID. Outcry is an Arizona tattoo shop tattoos a nine-year-old girl who wanted a picture of Trump on her neck. I mean, I'm not against tattoos. Why are you nine and getting a Trump tattoo on your neck? The artist shared video of the process and he said, do a more patriotic tattoo, maybe a flag on your arm or something. But she said, nope, she wants it on her neck. So that's apparently she wanted to get it. Apparently they were able to, I guess she did it on her arm instead. She changed her mind. They traveled to Arizona where kids can get tattoos if they have parental permission. But, you know, if you wanted to chop off your willy and be a chick, then you don't need to tell mom and dad. I mean, that's how the rule is. So she got just a tattoo on her arm of a flag. She wanted Trump on her neck originally, but she ended up getting the still, though. Come on. That's a little that's a little much. Let's see. A Los Angeles vegan chain abruptly closed all their locations. They got in trouble because they added meat to the menu. looking at their food and it looks gross. It looks like dung and some vegetables. Yeah, they they ended up the sage restaurant. They ended up having to abruptly shut all their locations. Stick with us. We've got more in store. Imagine a young woman facing an unplanned pregnancy, feeling alone and unsure of what to do. And she's searching for hope. And that's where Preborn Ministries comes in. You can make a difference for just $28. Your generosity can be the key to a mother choosing life for her baby. And with your gift, you will receive the story of a mom who chose life as well as the ultrasound image of her precious baby. And like the story of Kelsey who found pre-born and after hearing her baby's heartbeat, she chose life. Consider making a larger, life-changing donation of $5,000, $10,000, or $15,000. Maximize your gift that can help women in unplanned pregnancies receive ultrasounds and even help place an ultrasound machine in a women's center. Donate for the gift of life. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound or hashtag 250baby. or visit preborn.com slash Dana to donate online. Every contribution counts. So again, that's pound 250, say the word baby, or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana.
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It's not my expectation to have any conversation at any point today, but we are looking forward to the dialogue to come in the next few weeks and thereafter to find the common ground necessary to in order to get things done for the American people. House Democrats believe that we are not sent to Washington to invade Greenland Rename the Gulf of Mexico or seize the Panama Canal by force. We were sent to Washington to lower the high cost of living in the United States.
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Now you're concerned about it? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Where was this cat at when everyone was like, why are my groceries so expensive? They were acting like it wasn't a big deal. But now all of a sudden they're not. They're not no longer going to be in power in a week and a half. So they're now they're concerned about the high cost of living. Whatever.
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Before November, the economy was great.
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Yeah, it was great. What happened? Well, since that time, Trump ain't even in office yet. We can't. He's not even in office yet. That's Hakeem Jeffries. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. I mean, I think... I don't want expansionism. I didn't vote for expansionism. I voted for America first. And I feel like right now, if it's not anything that we voted for, it's not one of the animating issues around which everyone coalesced, then it needs to be kicked to the back of the list right now. However, I do think it's been funny to watch. I'm torn because I keep thinking, gosh, this is... It's just like, let's focus. But I also think it's funny. I think it's funny because after Trump started talking about it, I don't know what the Danes thought they were doing. But King Frederick, wait a minute, has he been the one? Hold up, hold up, hold up. Is this the guy who got in trouble with his wife? Hold up. Oh, it is. So the Danish king, if you don't know this, and the only reason I know this is because of the trash British tabloids. So Frederick got caught like two years ago. In staying overnight at his Spanish lady friend's apartment. I think they were in Madrid. And they went out and had dinner and did all this and they went back and he didn't leave her apartment till the morning. Well, they're old friends, you know. How many of you married out there that would fly? How would that fly with? Yeah, just yeah. Uh-huh. Anyway, his wife is Australian, but she speaks the language and she's very well revered in Denmark. Anyway, so they've had some drama. So Frederick, he's the king of Denmark. His mom abdicated the throne. I think her name's Marguerite. So he took over. And after Trump started talking about all of this, he decided that he was going to change the coat of arms to more accurately reflect Greenland and their important position to the country. So what they did is they made the bear bigger. The Danish coat of arms features a bear, which is the symbol of Greenland, and the ram, and a symbol of the Faroe Islands. And now the bear's bigger. At first, it was just tiny little bears, two little bears in the bottom left panel. And now it's a big, giant bear. And they've got the two dudes with the clubs standing. I just am fascinated by these. So they updated their coat of arms. Like, oh, look what we did. We made the bear bigger. Yeah. That will show you, Trump. It's not probably the most accurate Danish accent, but it's the best I can do under the circumstances. So I do you think that's going to he's that just seems silly. Is that silly? It's as silly as what Trump is saying, I think, because I don't give a rat's ass about going into Greenland right now. Just like me. Just can we just like make reciprocity a national thing and lower tax, like get rid of taxes? That'd be great.
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I see his point on national security. If you've got Russian and China ships roaring around up there in North America, where there would be a national security concern. I don't see it, and I don't think he's ever articulated it as us going in and invading Greenland.
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Yeah, when the hell did it ever happen that it was a priority? Like, all of a sudden, we're like, okay. We all voted in November, right? We're going to secure the border. We're going to build the wall, right? Yeah. We're going to build the wall. We're going to make groceries affordable again. We're going to make America healthy again. We're going to bring back Mexican Coke for everybody, not the booger sugar, but the soda. And then he's like, yeah, okay, best I can do is Greenland.
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The Pawn Stars.
SPEAKER 19 :
And we're all scratching our heads like, what the hell? Greenland wasn't, I'm checking notes, wasn't on the list.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I know that the Article 1, Section 8 of our Constitution definitely lays out the responsibilities of our federal government.
SPEAKER 19 :
I think if you're going to make that argument, they've got to make the case and prove it to the American people.
SPEAKER 17 :
And that was my next point. If he's not contextualizing why, because we're a small government. Why are we expanding government? This is expansionism. Yeah, this is expansionism. So he's got to contextualize why this is important and why this falls under the purview of the executive branch here as it relates to Article I, Section 8.
SPEAKER 19 :
I sure as hell don't want Canada. No offense, Canadians. We got some of you that listen. I like you guys. And I like that Pierre Polivare. I like him a lot. But I don't want Canada. I don't want it. There's nothing I want up there. Nothing I want. I don't want the damn liberalism. I don't want the crap health care. I don't want all those damn liberal votes. I don't want Canada. Don't want it. Don't want the cold. Don't want the bears. Don't want it. None of it. I'm with it. I hear you. Don't... They've got good syrup. And Canada's not a victim. I mean, Newfoundland. What?
SPEAKER 17 :
They've got good lumber and good syrup.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't care about the syrup. I don't even like pancake syrup. I don't even like maple syrup. I don't like it. It's weird. What the hell are you saying? It's tree... juice it's weird you don't like maple syrup no no i'd forever hate i'm gonna be looking at you through don't like i would i'll eat a pancake plain i won't put nothing on it i'm not looking at you the same now for some reason like give me a fruit compote you know but i don't want no syrup on it's weird it's like would you like some diabetes I'm going to pour some diabetes juice all over your pancake, all over your carbs.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. I'm not so sure that maple syrup gives you diabetes, does it?
SPEAKER 19 :
It has sugar.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's like all sugar. Yeah, but it's not like bad refined.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's made of sugar and crack.
SPEAKER 17 :
Of all the sugars that exist, it's not the worst one out there.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's pretty bad, though. You don't need it. You don't need it. It's just, why do we eat it? I don't get that. What the hell do we do some of the stuff that we do? We drink nut milk. It's weird. It's not milk. It's just dirty nut water. That's all it is, right? Like, it's all weird. It's all weird. Why do we do? We are so weird. No wonder the aliens stay hidden. Hell, I wouldn't want to be like these. Oh, I want these people to be my friend. Have you seen us? We're weirdos. No. I mean, I'm a human and I'm like, just no, thank you. Anyway, back to this. I just love this little Danish king, this little lightness loafers looking feller who's like, I'm going to change the coat of arms. I give you to bed. It is bigger now. You can't take Greenland's base bigger. Someone asked, by the way, we have a Lorraine informs me. We have a good kind of a raid happening in the show chat, which happens in Rumble, by the way, which you can join. Someone asked if Greenland is Greenland's going to get named Mara Igloo. A little he cave? I don't know. A little he glue. It's a he glue. Woo! I mean... I just am not interested in the expansionism. But I do think it's hysterical that they're like, oh, yeah, well, we change our coats of arms. Most Americans are like, the hell is a coat of arms? What? What is that even? Like, oh, you made the bear bigger. Nobody knows what that means except those people. Right. Like, that's not going to do it. That doesn't create a magical force field around Greenland. Oh, we can't touch him because they made the bear bigger on the coat of arms. There's no more Vikings anymore. Stop. No one's afraid. Good heavens. But I don't want, I don't really think, I don't care. And renaming the Gulf of Mexico, is that going to make the IRS go away? Because if it does, then I'm all for it.
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I'm just interested to find out.
SPEAKER 19 :
We should call it the Gulf of F off is what we should call it. What?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, if we're going to rename it, why not name it the Gulf of America? And by the way, how much work does that actually take?
SPEAKER 19 :
I want to name it something scary so no one wants to come through it. Like the gulf of, there's straight up monsters here. That's the gulf of it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Gulf of death.
SPEAKER 19 :
The gulf of death. Just saying. What were you going to say?
SPEAKER 17 :
I was going to ask how much effort really goes into renaming it. Are we really wasting a ton of time because we decided to rename the Gulf to Gulf of America?
SPEAKER 19 :
And who do you go to do that? Is there an old man who lives up in a mountain somewhere and you've got to climb all the steps and be like, I would like to change the name of this Gulf. How does that work?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think you just declare it, and then the agreement of others makes it so.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, then why can't we just constantly declare stuff?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think we do.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't think that's how that works.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think there's a lot of declarations over the years, and a lot of them go against science.
SPEAKER 19 :
So you're telling me the next time I'm fishing out in the Caribbean, if I come across an island that no one else is on, minesies? Why not? I mean, until their military shows up.
SPEAKER 17 :
I don't know. Well, if it's somebody's, then yeah, I guess so.
SPEAKER 19 :
But what if it's, is it somebody's? I mean, you're talking about squatting.
SPEAKER 17 :
If it's nobody's, then you got to deal with, you know, entities like China.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm all for saying that the Gulf is ours.
SPEAKER 17 :
Pirates.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, pirates aren't as cool as they used to be.
SPEAKER 17 :
No.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm all for saying that the Gulf is ours, right? Because it's ours. Like, we're all over there and we're bigger than everybody else. So, you know, step off. But what does that accomplish? Wasn't it the Gulf of Pensacola at one point? I don't know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Was it? I didn't know that. I thought it was named the Gulf of Mexico, and that's their first recorded naming of that area.
SPEAKER 19 :
Just call it the Gulf of your mom and just use that as an insult to every tyrant, every foreign tyrant.
SPEAKER 17 :
It would be a waste of time if government was doing what you're saying.
SPEAKER 19 :
I just don't know what that does. Again, if you're like Dana, do you know that all you have to do to accomplish all these things that you voted for is just change the name of the damn Gulf. Woman, just do it. And I'd be like, okay, I'm convinced. I want to see that magic happen. I'm totally convinced. But right now, you know, I just don't know. I just don't. But I sure as hell don't want Canada.
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All right.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. I don't want them.
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But I envision Trump having his daily list like this to-do, this honey-do list every day from his day one. You know what I mean? And I think like number 12 on that list is probably renaming the Gulf. I don't know.
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I do think it's funny that Denmark decided to immediately give Greenland a whole bunch of money for defense. Right. I don't know if you guys saw this, but hang on, let me pull this up. This is hysterical. So Denmark, after Trump was saying all this stuff, they boosted Greenland's defense after Trump started talking. So they sent a package that they said was in the double-digit billion amount. In Kron, the Danish defense minister, Trostland Poulsen, I know. I'm doing the best I can with the Danish. I can't do it. Everything sounds like that guy from the Frozen movie. It's a double-digit billion amount. It's only a fate. So they said that they were planning all of a sudden a stronger presence in the Arctic, is what they're saying. So they're including increasing staffing at Arctic Command in the capital of Nuuk, which is right where Junior went. I can't do a Danish accent. Nuke. I can do like 10 accents really well, and that's about it. This is not one of them. They said that it's going to be about $12 to $15 billion, or krone. And it was the day after Trump was trolling about it on Truth Social. So now all of a sudden they just decided, oh, we're just going to boost the defense here. That's all. I don't know. But... Is I'd not say I what if that was the goal? Everything is so stupid and crazy. What if it was the goal? Because if that was the goal to get these nations to spend more on their own defense, then why not just threaten all of them with with taking them over? And then they'll be like, oh, we'll spend all these NATO nations will suddenly start contributing more to their self-defense so they don't have to be our welfare children anymore. I'm just saying, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I just I just let's just accomplish what we need to accomplish now and then later, you know, but changing the coat of arms is hysterical, is absolutely hysterical. All right. We've got we've got more on the way as we roll towards headlines. And as we do so, our partners that help bring you the program. So friends over at Patriot Mobile. Patriot Mobile is the only Christian conservative cell phone provider in the country. And I mean, I don't know if you haven't switched yet. Maybe you just really love funding gun control and DEI. I mean, some people do, right? I don't know anybody that calls themselves a conservative that does, but some people do. Maybe you just love spending a lot of money and overpaying for the cost of service. I mean, you could be spending a heck of a lot less with Patriot Mobile and get a plan tailored to whatever you, your family or you, your business need. And you don't have any of your money that goes towards DEI or gun control or anything else. I mean, you support the issues that are important to you that you vote to protect. I mean, you know, it's up to you, but they make it super easy. It's seamless switching with our 100 percent U.S. based customer service team. And right now you can get a free month of service. using promo code Dana. You can keep your number, keep your phone, or get all entirely new everything. It is up to you. It's never been simpler to switch. So visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT. Get a free month of service using promo code Dana. That's patriotmobile.com slash Dana 972-PATRIOT.
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So I'm trying to understand. So this is an NBC2 local affiliate out there in Florida. Cape Coral man was arrested after he claimed that his house was poisoned and attempted to break into another house. How do you poison a house? The victim was seen trying to open a lock sliding door on the back of the home. The victim said he confronted the guy, told him that he was armed. And that's when the intruder ran away from the scene before officers arrived. The guy, Antonio Cruz Aparicio, he was attempting to gain entry into a home. He was yelling for help, saying his house was poisoned. They actually had a tasing to get him under control. And they found his wallet at a separate residence. So He got charged, a couple charges, burglary, resisting with violence. Yeah, that's kind of freaky. Just, I didn't even, I mean, obviously, they probably did a mental health check on him. This, let's see. Oh, I got a couple of other ones. This is, oh, a Florida woman was arrested after she accidentally texted a sheriff's department instead of her drug dealer. That can happen, I'm sure, to people like Octavia Wells, 41 years old. She sent a text message trying to get fentanyl before leaving town. Apparently, though, she accidentally texted a narcotics investigator within the sheriff's office. And, oh, boy, the investigator adeptly engaged her in conversation, masquerading as her drug dealer, arranged to meet with her. She went to the gas station. thinking she was meeting her drug dealer, and instead she was met with a team of investigators, and she was taken into custody because they charged with a whole bunch of stuff. And I don't know if buying with the intent to distribute was part of it, but I don't know. This, let's see, there's a Lee County man that got in trouble for slashing tires following a road rage incident. 37 year old Matthew Tobler. He, uh, was slashing tires of a vehicle, uh, according to Lee County Sheriff's office. And he was making obscene gestures, hand gestures at nearby motorists. And when, uh, A victim said that he, why would you approach the vehicle? There was an incident, a vehicle, a victim approached the Tobler's vehicle. He got out of the car, began threatening him with a knife and then started slashing his tires before leaving the scene. So they were able to take, I mean, why, what the hell is wrong with, what is, I'm going to tell you what people can't drive. That is for sure. I've got some stories. I actually have a story that happened to me over Christmas that I'll share when I'm able to share it. But yeah, people cannot drive. And let's see. And Saudi Arabia is pressing a Floridian. Well, a man in Florida to give up his U.S. citizenship over critical tweets. It's a Florida retiree. He made social media posts critical of the crown prince. And Saudi Arabia doesn't have the same kind of, you know, speech. Interesting. Stick with us. Third hour on the way. Imagine a young woman facing an unplanned pregnancy, feeling alone and unsure of what to do. And she's searching for hope. And that's where Preborn Ministries comes in. You can make a difference for just $28. Your generosity can be the key to a mother choosing life for her baby. And with your gift, you will receive the story of a mom who chose life as well as the ultrasound image of her precious baby. And like the story of Kelsey who found Preborn and after hearing her baby's heartbeat, she chose life. Consider making a larger, life-changing donation of $5,000, $10,000, or $15,000. Maximize your gift that can help women in unplanned pregnancies receive ultrasounds and even help place an ultrasound machine in a women's center. Donate for the gift of life. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound or hashtag 250 baby. Or visit preborn.com slash Dana to donate online. Every contribution counts. So again, that's pound 250, say the word baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana.
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My heart goes out, obviously, to the people with their homes and I'm watching the small businesses around us go up in flames. This is people's livelihoods. So it's devastating. But what is most concerning to me is Our first responders and our firefighters who are trying to battle this, there's no water in the palisades. There's no water coming out of the fire hydrants. This is an absolute mismanagement by the city. Not the firefighters' fault, but it's by the city. And I'm going to be very honest. We've got a mayor that's out of the country, and we've got a city that's burning, and there's no resources to put out fires. So if you look at your pictures, you don't see the firefighters there because there's nothing they can do. And it looks like we're in a third world country here.
SPEAKER 19 :
This is crazy. Apparently, according to the L.A. Times, by 3 a.m. this morning, all the fire hydrants in the Palisades area were dry. And it's burning. That's according to the chief executive and chief engineer of the L.A. Department of Water and Power. So Rick Caruso, who you just heard speaking there, who... karen bass won over him uh going for mayor of la he's a big developer in los angeles he's like all there's no water i mean you you it all the amount the money that they spend in california and they're right by an ocean and they have no water welcome back to the program dana lash with you at the top of this third hour and that's that's the story la times has uh The excuse from L.A. city officials, they're blaming what they say is tremendous demand. Yeah, that's what happens when you don't properly manage your land and then you have a big fire that breaks out. They said that the one fire in the area alone, how many thousands acres did I say that was over?
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11,000.
SPEAKER 19 :
11,000, like 11,000 acres. It's now 11,000 acres big. I'm trying to just imagine that size of a fire. Imagine it. I think it was over 10,600 acres, so basically 11,000 acres. I'm just trying to imagine the size of that. And they're growing still. And yet by 3 a.m. today, all the fire hydrants per L.A. Times in the Palisades were dry. And they're getting criticized justifiably. They said that they don't have enough firefighters. The city officials are being criticized for, quote, chronic underinvestment in infrastructure and public safety, end quote. I mean, this is unbelievable. Yeah, the first tank that they had ran dry Tuesday. The second, the first tank that they had, they have three large water tanks. They have about a million gallons in each of them. The first one ran dry 4.45 p.m. Tuesday evening. The second at 8.30 p.m. Tuesday evening. And the third was dry by 3 a.m. this morning. And they said that they're not able to, they're out today. And they spent a lot of time on DEI and doing all kinds of stuff that nobody ever needed. K-Notes, and this is a couple of different sources on this, they had the fire department funding. Their funding was cut by Karen Bass by over $17 million in just the most recent city budget alone. And they... were focusing on all of these DEI initiatives. They were tweeting out, like their fire department and their other city officials, they were tweeting out how, oh, well, yes, it's very important that we need to make sure that we're prioritizing hiring black firefighters, et cetera. Like, why don't you just prioritize hiring firefighters? Thank you. Who gives a rat's ass whether they're black or white or whatever? People are burning to death. And everybody's freaking out over identity politics. Bass actually wanted more money cut. Isn't that crazy? She cut $17.6 million from the city's fire department budget for the 24-25 fiscal year. This is according to the New York Post. And it was supposed to be, the Post added that she actually wanted a $23 million cut. Wow. Wow. And now you can kind of see, you know, they don't have enough firefighters. They don't have you know, they have no idea where their tax dollars are going. They and looking at this, let me pull up another. The tax dollars, people are like, oh, where the tax dollars go. They spent it on. Well, of course, after they helped create all of the riots, they had to spend it on policing housing. Big city budget goes to housing. Communication investment for families, whatever the hell that means. They're actually in the red on sanitation, fire, street services. You know, the stuff that your tax dollars are actually. This is why people don't like property taxes, by the way. Property taxes are communist, anti-American, and any Republican that does not go on record and wanting them abolished is a Marxist. You can't be a little Marxist. You're either a Marxist or you're not. Republicans need to grow some balls. I'm so tired of this stupid, moderate crap. Your property tax, especially in Los Angeles, they're not going for anything. What the hell is this? I'm looking at, and this is according to their city controller, they... Personnel, cannabis regulation, an ethics commission. They have their city planning, communication or whatever, community investment, whatever the hell that is, welfare, housing, a library. That's where they spend most of their money. Street services, fire, sanitation, public works, street lighting, things like that. That's, you know, what you, the agreement is that you pay your taxes and then they handle that. That's what they, they're not there. They cut millions upon millions upon millions from those things. Those are at the bottom of the list of priorities. This is according to the city controller's own data. This is wild. Absolutely wild to me. So what's the point of it? What's the point of it? I just, it's, you know, I keep thinking of this. It came out, the Biden administration, they're going to announce the final half a billion dollars for Ukraine. Meanwhile, what wildfires? What Hurricane Helene damage? What fires out in Hawaii? You know, what about the chemical spill in Ohio? I mean, what about any of those things? Nah. Nah. No need. So apparently Karen Bass is going to be arriving in LA. She's coming back from her party in Ghana. Is she bringing water with her? She's going to be back and then apparently, I don't know if she's going to have a press conference or not, but good heavens. This is what these policies get you. This is what happens. This is what these policies get you. And the governor of this state is trying to already put himself in position for 2028. I mean, I just I'm amazed at just the massive mismanagement of money. But that's Democrats. They don't even really know what started these fires. They haven't even gotten to that point yet. They're just trying to contain it. They have no idea. I mean, what if it was an act of terror? I mean, that's how one of the previous wildfires started. Somebody, it was arson. They have no idea what you're looking at right now that Juan's showing you. That's the list. All the stuff in the red is fire, sanitation, street lighting, public works. Yeah, the essential stuff. The stuff that your stupid property taxes are supposed to go for anyway. The green is what they double the budget for. And, of course, they had to do it with policing after they created an environment that required it. And then they added library, housing, all of this other stuff that's unnecessary. There are people who are saying that they're living... California after this. Apparently, everyone's at the Beverly Hilton and a couple of different hotels there. I can't remember. The one that's across the street from the Beverly Hilton, I can't remember the name of it. But all the millionaires and billionaires are hiding out in the hotels. They said all the hotels, the Peninsula. Peninsula's booked. Beverly Hilton's booked. The Ritz is booked. Four Seasons booked. Everybody's booked. All the hotels and motels are booked because people are fleeing. And they said it's all chaos. People bringing their pets in, their Gucci luggage. It's all chaos. And everyone has the sentiment of enough is enough. Yeah, they'll get over it. But this is what I hate to say it. And I'm not saying that it's deserving of the fires. But when you vote for incompetent people that have no idea what they're doing, you get incompetent people that don't know what they're doing when a time of crisis hits. They don't rise to the occasion. They fall back on their highest skill set. And none of these people have them. I mean, this is sad to see, but this is the message that Republicans need to keep making. See what's happening in California? That's Gavin Newsom. He's been there for how long? That's Gavin Newsom. That's what happens when you have generational Democrat policies. That's what it is. I mean, I feel for these people. And then you have insurance companies that are canceling insurance policies like weeks before all of this happened. It's like how in North Carolina you've got all these people that have to pay their property taxes. They have to pay all their property taxes in North Carolina, a couple of the counties out there, because they said, oh, no, we don't even have a catastrophe exclusion for any of this. So these people aren't going to be able to pay their property tax. And then watch. You're going to have the government come in and seize the property from people. Government acquiring land just like they did in Hawaii. Property taxes, it's a racket. It's a way that the government can make sure they always get your land. We've got a lot more on the way. Just horrific. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I feel like this is just like the cryptid community giving up. So they said that, no, all right, you know, yeah, they've been looking for Bigfoot, but now they're going to instead look for Littlefoot. What? An expert reveals there's an ape-like humanoid that could still be roaming the earth. I don't know. A hobbit? Little foot. That's literally a hobbit. What if it's just like, oh man, nobody wants to see any of the stuff that I'm looking at. No, thank you. No, they have a full body rendering of it. Not in a nice way either. Like that lady little foot needs to shave her everything. Golly. Anyway, they said that, what's the name for it? Homo florescensis. I don't want no Homo florescensis. For four decades. He's at the University of Alberta. I don't know. Is it? They said that. I'm not even kidding. This is so goofy. I just don't. Now, Bigfoot, I actually do believe. Littlefoot, nah. Maybe that's its kid and it just hasn't grown up. Maybe you're seeing a baby Bigfoot and it's not really a little. What? That actually, I believe that. Let's see. Oh, this apparently, why did they throw? Oh, gosh. The people set world records for the stupidest stuff. We're going to throw 100,000 teddy bears onto an ice rink and set a record. Because that's apparently what needed to... Who cares? Yay. It's like OCD activities and then they get records for it. I don't get it. It's weird. Let's see. A monkey and a tutu escape from a home. Oh, okay. What kind of monkey was it? It's a little monkey in a tutu. I love how the cops respond and they're like, yeah, it was bananas. Uh, but he was able to slip away and this was in Jefferson County in the St. Louis area. Just saying, just saying if anybody, what was that? That documentary that was on Netflix just recently, the people who own those monkeys, it was one of those monkeys that slapped me when I was a kid. I slapped it back. Um, chimp crazy or something like that so a monkey in a tutu it was a missouri home cane it was in jefferson county i'm just saying uh they said that they returned it to its caretaker after careful negotiations blah blah blah snow coming that show is out of jefferson county in missouri yeah it is it's out of festus that's crazy town in which i was born out of festus uh let's see a no this is a dumb story San Bernardino County man says his cats were killed after they drank raw milk that was contaminated with bird flu. Or all of this sounds nasty. Maybe you're just nasty and you fed nasty milk to your nasty cats. How about that? Sounds like it. I'm going to go with that one because I don't believe this bird flu stuff. I don't say no. Put the masks on the birds. Guy's name is Joseph Dranel. They spent about 2000 words just telling you a story about some dude whose cats probably drank bad expired milk and kicked the bucket. And they're trying to make it a 2,000-word story about bird flu. This is why you don't hate the press enough. This is why you don't hate them enough. Bottom line. We've got a lot more still on the way. Because the DEI stuff, we've got to talk about that. If you think that didn't have an effect with how they're handling everything in Los Angeles, well, I've got a story for you that will cause you to think again. Stick with us.
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Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. The bottom of this third hour. We're in Texas preparing for snowpocalypse. I was just looking at the temp. It's going to be 40. It's 40 degrees right now. It's a balmy 40 degrees. been freezing and then the ice and that's supposed to start tonight. So California is getting fire. We're getting ice. And Texas is going to shut down and people need to stop freaking out over French toast supplies. Like I said, they all go on, they get their toilet paper. I said it, toilet paper. Every time I have say certain words, I kid you not, I get emails from people. Southern Missouri, get over it. Heard it from my grandmother all the time. But they go out and they get toilet paper. Toilet is how you say it.
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Oh.
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Yeah. It's not toilet. It's toilet. They go out and they get toilet paper and bread and milk and all this other stuff. Milk is another. And ice comes, shut everything down for a couple days. We're ready, though. Yeah. If... You know, we lose power. We're ready this time. I mean, we were ready last time, but we just needed a bigger generator. But we're ready. We got the big one now. It can power like the whole hood, I think. But we're ready to rock and roll. So I don't know. I'm telling you. But in L.A., they've had over. I don't know. Some people said they've seen hundred personally seen hundreds of homes burn. What were they doing just recently? Audio Summit 11. This is what they were doing. This is how the city was handling stuff. Listen.
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I'm super inspired.
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She took time out of her already busy schedule to tell us about her vision for the department's future, one that includes a three-year strategic plan to increase diversity.
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People ask me, well, what number are you looking for? I say, I'm not looking for a number. It's never enough.
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Out of 3,300 city firefighters, only 115 are women right now. She's already looking at ways to change that. She's quick to point out that doing so has a greater purpose, attracting the best and brightest for the job.
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They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part of a cohesive team.
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The chief also checks another box when it comes to inclusivity and diversity at this department. She's a proud member of the LGBTQ community.
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That just kind of opens the door of people that thought, wow, I didn't even know that that was an opportunity for me.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, man, things that I would rather say right now that I can't. I mean, you know, they could be focusing on firefighting and stuff, but, you know, it's California, specifically L.A., We got to make sure that we include people who have sex a certain way in our hiring process. Like, are they, is it like a job for firefighters or are they also hookers? I don't understand. Yeah. Like how, why does that have any impact on that? Why does that, why is that a consideration on the job? You know, my bosses don't care that I love cilantro. They don't care. They wouldn't care if I dislike cilantro. It's not a thing, right? It's just a preference. This idea that this is somehow you have to include this into firefighting, I just, I don't understand it. Does it make them fight the fires a better way? Does a gay dude fight a fire better than a dude who's not gay? Is how well you fight fires predicated upon how you get it out privately? I'm curious. Is there something I don't know? Is there a study?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I don't think even straight people don't have an advantage over gay people in that regard because that doesn't matter to your firefighting skills.
SPEAKER 19 :
I am made of jokes right now. It's taking everything I have. All of my self-restraint right now.
SPEAKER 17 :
All of them. The fact that we're arguing this part of it to me is beyond absurd.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, this is stuff they were doing just a few months ago. Yes, it's very important. I don't care if the fire chief is alphabet. I don't care. Can you, I don't know, fight fires? It's very important that we get a fire chief who likes tail. It's very important. And that it's a chick who likes tail. It's very important. And this does what concerning the impact of fighting fires? Absolutely nothing. Then why is it an issue? This is what's so confusing coming from my perspective as someone who was a teenager in the 90s and a young adult going into the early aughts. I was always told, like the rhetoric that we always heard is that what happens behind closed doors is none of your business and stay out of everybody's private lives. But now it's like the doors are flung open and they're having a housewarming party in their bedroom and you're forced to attend and applaud. That's what it's like now. And I just, it's so hypocritical. And it is completely fair to bring these things up and point this out because the fact that that was like a huge goal for them. Do you know they don't have enough firefighters? Adam Carolla was just saying what he's reiterated the story that he shared a couple of years ago that he had tried to be a firefighter. And they told him that he had to wait. He was on a wait list to be considered because he wasn't a minority firefighter. We don't need any of you white dudes fighting fires. Oh, my gosh. This is so it's just so weird. It's so weird. I don't know. I'm just that's what they focused on. DEI is going to get everybody burnt up. People will burn to death because of DEI. That's exactly what I just this is just so stupid. So stupid. I was looking at who voted where. So the Palisades... LA Times had a story where you can go and you can read and see on this map that they have. You go to remove paywall to get around their paywall because I'm not paying them for this stuff. But they were saying that the Palisades, it was pretty close. A lot of them voted for Karen Bass. But barely more of them voted for Rick Caruso. But Karen Bass ended up winning for mayor in LA. So... I mean, and of all the people who are very, very competent, you know, Rick Caruso, billionaire, very successful real estate developer, understands land management, understands all of it. You know, you would think that you would need somebody like that, particularly with wildfires that have been plaguing the area lately. But no, no, they went with Karen Bass, not even in town when all this stuff happens. Remember how the left lost their minds when Ted Cruz went on a previously scheduled spring break trip during ice again. And a couple of years ago, Karen Bass is legit like at an inauguration in Ghana while her town burns. So shut up. And then Cruz didn't even go. He canceled his portion and stayed, which is stupid. Yeah. And he's yeah. So stupid. So I don't know. Meantime, in Seattle, another city being ravaged by progressivism, who would have thought their $20 per hour minimum wage law is forcing all the restaurants to close? There's five more restaurants that are closing. They have a law where they demand that you pay someone over $20 an hour, $20.76 an hour. And the hospitality industry came out with a prediction that a ton of small businesses will go under as a direct result of that. And so one of those, Belgado Bakery, they posted a sign in its door. They said that they're no longer able to service their customers. They're not able to close that 20% increase in mandated wages and that they're going to have to close their doors. And they're just one of tons of other people, tons of other small businesses that are closing because they can't they can't handle it. That's because it's stupid. to demand 20 over 20 dollars an hour for this is so stupid and i say this is someone i started as a server i my first job was as a server and i worked uh every friday and saturday night and i made a lot of money in tips and i worked really really hard it's an entry-level job and i never expected to be paid 20 an hour mandated that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard You're you're making the market pay overpay for a lower skill set. And that's it is people can get upset about it. But I mean, come on. This is dumb. This is how you get $70 hamburgers. Is this kind of stuff right here? Because people then bitch and moan about capitalism. They don't they don't account their cost into the capitalism when you are forcing businesses. And why stop at $20? When you're forcing businesses to pay, where do you think that cost is coming from? The business doesn't exist just to tickle your jimmies. They don't exist just to, you know, make you happy. It's a business. They're going to pass the cost on. And why stop, like I said, why stop at $20, an increase in $20? Why don't you give them $50,000 an hour if you really love the poor? If you love the poor so much, you'll give them your salary. Notice how none of those people ever volunteered to do that. It's killing businesses there. But people voted for it, and they'll probably continue to vote for it. It's all the rich progressives that can afford all this stupidity. In the meantime, we're still watching all those those fires. They had they have video now of some of the like, I guess I don't know. Are they going to close the airport there if the fires get too close? They'd have to, wouldn't they? That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I just now. Yeah. Just thought of that. A couple of the things I want to touch on as well to make sure that we're getting everything everything in. This, I don't know if I told you that Daniel Penny, he's trying to get that father, Jordan Neely's father had filed a suit against him in civil court. And Daniel Penny's trying to get that case tossed, which he should. Jordan Neely's dad was wholly absent for the entirety of his life. And he didn't even come around until after Jordan Ealy's death when he thought he could get a payout. That is the only reason that that suit exists. And I hope I hope they do toss it out. That's. I mean, it's it's a grift. So we'll watch that case as well. There's also this story that happened. It was this was over the weekend. A victim was stabbed in the throat at Grand Central Terminal in New York. And she said no one came to her aid. Imani Ciara Pizarro got off the four train about 10 p.m., was going to her administrative night job at the Roosevelt Hotel, which was converted into a shelter for illegal immigrants. And she was attacked there. And she got sucker punched in the back of the head and stabbed in the neck. The suspect, 28 year old Brooklyn native Jason Sargent, was screaming at her, lunged at her with a knife, cut her throat, kicked her phone away. And she said a lot of people just froze. Police were nowhere in sight. She says I was running for help and there was no one there. Yeah. What about the story that I just shared about Daniel Penny? That is why nobody wants to help because New York punishes it. punishes people that step in and try to help. And they're, I mean, you know, she should have just, by New York City's reasoning, that she should have just let herself be attacked and killed right there on the street. She was like, I called out for help, nobody came to help me. That's sad. But New York City does that. They go after the people who try to help. And this is what happens. I'm going to tell you, this is how you get vigilantism. Exactly how you get vigilantism. It's a sad story, but this is what New York City created. People need to start changing how they vote. They really do, especially after this last election with so many people voting the way that they did. I mean, I don't know if this is enough to make Los Angeles wake up. But something, I mean, what else could happen besides this other than the state falls into the sea? What else is worse? It's burning up right now.
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SPEAKER 19 :
I was just thinking to myself, I know that I should have gotten that flamethrower at Texas Gun Experience. You know, for the ice. Oh, yeah. Because you can't really get, like, melt here and all that stuff in Texas. They just don't do that here. But I don't like the ice, so, like, I could go out and, you know, burn some stuff.
SPEAKER 17 :
They do sell the pool salt, which I did buy a bag of that. Where'd you get that at? I bought it at, I think it was Lowe's. I went to Lowe's and Home Depot, so I think it was Lowe's I got it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, apparently everyone's like, I need all these things. And they just buy, like, people chill. It's like for two days. Calm down. Like, calm yourselves. But I definitely should have got, you know, for the ice. I mean, think about it. Like, you could just go out there with that, you know, and just get rid of the ice. Because that's always the worst. So I hope everybody stays safe out there. And we're praying for everybody in the fires. We're still praying for everybody in North Carolina and, oh, my gosh, everywhere else. But, yeah, I'm just... I had a thought because we were talking about the DEI stuff with the firefighting in LA and all of that. And one of our listeners, Adrian said that he's glad to know that gay people feel seen in the LA fire department while the raging fires of hell consume, you know, all these houses everywhere. Do they have to wear like reflective rainbow stuff? Does that make it easier to spot the gay people in the flames? I'm just curious. I just still, I'm trying to wrap my mind around that one. Like what about people with four toes? Do they get, do they have like a special like outreach event to them? What if they're left-handed? Do they get like a special left-handed outreach? Like this is all stuff that has nothing to do with fighting fires. Why are we, do you like skim milk or whole milk? Because we find out that you're able to fight fires more effectively if you don't drink skim milk. Like that's like, you know, It's just a bird. What did you say? There's bird flu in the whole mill. Oh, for the love. Shut up. You know, I, oh my gosh. I don't care about any of the new flus. I don't care about any of the new viruses. I'm already, I'm getting fed up already. And we're not even through the first week of the new year.
SPEAKER 17 :
Some of this is by design, I think.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, my gosh. I need the flamethrower. Do you think I've got time before any bad weather hits? I need to go. I need to shut up. Okay, first off, you've got today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, we do. As a matter of fact, just go ahead and play cut one because Raskin is not the smartest in Congress. Let's just put it that way. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 20 :
And so it'll be 217 to 215, which means they cannot afford to lose a single vote. And they've already suffered the defection of Congresswoman Sparks from Indiana, who got so mad about the fact that she wasn't put on the committee she wanted, that she has left the Republican conference and is an independent now. And we haven't even started deliberations yet. So I
SPEAKER 17 :
The reason this is so stupid is because we all know how Democrats operate. It's intentional. They have all of these problems in the Democrat Party. The media doesn't report on them. And then they want to act like they're going to be capitalizing on some division that doesn't exist. So it's good times.
SPEAKER 19 :
Good times indeed. Everybody stay safe out there. We'll have all the latest as well. Any developments that we'll have up on the newsletter, Substack, Chapter Inverse, go sign up. Find us, like, subscribe, YouTube, Facebook. Have a great night, everybody. Stay warm, stay safe. Back tomorrow.
The show highlights the ACLJ's ongoing efforts to support First Amendment rights in a new pro-life case in Ohio, where a peaceful protester faces legal challenges. Legal analyst Harry Hutchison provides an in-depth analysis of the Supreme Court's possible actions on Trump's emergency petition and its wider implications. Meanwhile, the ACLJ encourages listeners to become active supporters in the fight for life and justice through monthly contributions.
SPEAKER 05 :
We got breaking news. President Trump files an emergency petition to the Supreme Court.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Sekulow. This is Logan Sekulow. Will Haynes is joining us in studio as well. We'll have some guests on a little bit later, including a brand new pro-life case that we have just taken. You're going to want to hear about that if you are someone who cares about those issues, as I know most of you are. So stay tuned for that. Obviously, the breaking news coming out. of new york is that president trump's filed an emergency petition to the supreme court to prevent the sentencing that was supposed to happen this friday we're going to break that down with harry hutchinson and more and will in just a little bit give us a call if you want to hear if you have a question about this 1-800-684-3110 1-800-684-3110 also wanted to take a Prayers are certainly with our friends in California, including Rick Grinnell and members of our team that are in California dealing with the devastating fires in Pacific Palisades and the areas around there. So though today we're going to be mostly focusing on some of our news items, because I know that if you want that coverage, it's everywhere right now. You can find it a much better coverage, if I'm being honest, on other broadcasts, because today we are focused on this breaking news that came out of, well, President Trump's legal team. to try to stop the sentencing which was supposed to happen on Friday in the New York case which again we kind of know won't be anything it's not going to be prison time that's not what we're looking at here but President Trump is pushing this taking all efforts to do that get this pushed beyond
SPEAKER 06 :
beyond being inaugurated that's right so as you'll remember earlier this week the president uh asked the judge to stay the sentencing uh due to the fact that his appeal on the presidential immunity issue is ongoing so said to the judge you shouldn't continue with proceedings on this until after that is resolved because the appeals court may throw this whole thing out anyways the Judge Marchand denied that. He appealed that to the appeals court. They denied that as well. So now the president and his legal team are going to the Supreme Court of the United States with an application for a stay of criminal proceedings in the Supreme Court of New York County, New York, pending the resolution of President Trump's interlocutory appeal on presidential immunity. So a lot of legal words there. What this means is that President Trump is asking the Supreme Court of the United States, to stay the sentencing to basically say anything moving forward in that disposition of that case that criminal case must be put on hold because an interlocutory appeal which that's an appeal made by a party in the middle of the proceeding so an appeal after judgment is what you normally see but this is something made in the middle and he has appealed to the appeals court in new york the ruling to not throw out the case. Judge Mershon said that the presidential immunity ruling had no bearing here and so therefore he was going to continue with sentencing. That is pending at the appeals court whether or not they will throw out the case. So all the president is doing here is asking the Supreme Court to say, hey, all proceedings must slow down, must pause while the appeals court in New York decides whether or not this case remains based off the presidential immunity ruling from the Supreme Court earlier this year. We're going to get into more details with Professor Hutchison in the next segment about what this means. What are the odds that the Supreme Court decides? Grants this stay. This isn't something you'll see oral argument on. It's not a case of that nature. We could get an order on this or a denial on this as soon as any time now. So we'll be watching for that as well. But stay tuned and give us a call at 1-800-684-3110 with your questions.
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They have to have a file of response by Thursday at 10 a.m. according to the news reports. So Thursday at 10 a.m. is when the latest, that's tomorrow morning, that we should know something. Again, as Will said, phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. Harry Hutchinson joining us. If you have questions for our legal experts, this is a great time to call. 1-800-684-3110. Also, we encourage you to become an ACLJ champion today. You're going to hear about a brand new case and why it's important. Of course, if you're one of us who fights for the protection of life, you're not going to want to miss this. That's coming up next. uh just in you got harry hudgeson next segment and then after that you're going to hear about this brand new case and of course we've seen what's been going on in massachusetts we're about to start that huge campaign and we need your help aclj.org save babies Welcome back to Secular. Professor Harry Hutchinson is joining us, senior attorney here at the ACLJ, to really break down this breaking news, Will, that came out. If you just are tuning in, which a lot of people are, specifically on our YouTube and Rumble channels. If you're brand new to our channels, make sure you hit subscribe. If you aren't new and you've already subscribed, make sure you hit subscribe. Share this with your friends. Put in a comment. Let me know where you're watching from. We like to watch that. We've got some big numbers right now, Will, because clearly this is on people's minds. That's right. And so this has been docketed by the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm looking at the docket page right now. Supreme Court of the United States.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
uh unfortunate number there yeah but uh what we've got is an application submitted to justice sotomayor uh and then they have said a response to this application requested by justice sotomayor by 10 a.m eastern tomorrow on january 9th so they have received this docketed it and are asking alvin bragg's team for a response to this motion uh by 10 a.m tomorrow What the president is asking the Supreme Court to do is issue a stay on the New York Supreme Court, which is their lowest level, which is kind of like the U.S. District Court level. Those proceedings, this is on the campaign finance violation, the 34 felonies that President Trump is supposed to be sentenced to on Friday of this week. So they are asking for this response by tomorrow. President Trump is asking the Supreme Court to say, halt those proceedings while my interlocutory appeal, my appeal on the ruling of immunity, goes forward at the state level. Now, this is, once again, Supreme Court getting involved with state issues. President Hutchison. President Hutchison. Professor Hutchison. I like that. There's a lot of words going on today. So Professor Hutchison. That was very Trump. A lot of words. You look at this. And one, it is the Supreme Court typically likes to stay out of state issues unless absolutely necessary. However, the flip side of that is this is the first time that they're ruling back earlier this year on presidential immunity. is being tested he's asking based off your ruling that's what i'm appealing in the state court system should the state court pause the proceedings until that appeal is exhausted almost putting a little bit of pressure on the supreme court to look at this because to some degree it's of their doing by creating this ruling earlier in the year what are your your thoughts on the overall picture what he's asking and where we could go from here
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Well, ultimately, my view is that this particular appeal is basically down to a flip of a coin. Typically, the Supreme Court is unlikely to take an appeal in a low-ranking felony matter where there is no sentencing or at least custodial sentencing contemplated by the judge. However, the big issue for the Supreme Court in terms of its own legacy is whether or not it will uphold its earlier decision granting presidents immunity for official acts. There's extensive evidence in the record showing that Judge Mershon allowed into evidence contested information which dealt with President Trump's official acts while in office. So I think that was a mistake by the trial court. That's number one. Number two, it's important to keep in mind that this is an interlocutory appeal. In other words, the state courts haven't finished their decision making, and they're unlikely to finish their decision making in this particular case, in my judgment, for months. And so the Supreme Court will indeed have an incentive to stay out. Lastly, let me make this particular point. Alan Dershowitz argues, however, that many of the liberal members of the Supreme Court may wish to step in and end this lawfare once and for all so Americans can proceed with their business, which is basically the inauguration of Donald Trump, on January the 20th, and he can move forward with a clean slate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Harry, can you lead us through a little bit, people who are commenting, I'm seeing it come through right now, of what the process even is when you're trying to get something like this state, when you're trying to get a decision pushed back. They filed a Supreme Court, and is it the justices making this decision? Are they coming together like they would for a regular case and having a discussion? Is this assigned to somebody? How does that work in terms of who's making the final decision? Because obviously, even in our comments, I'm seeing people go, well, this justice clearly is not going to vote that way, but hey, this one could. So how does that, How does that all come together?
SPEAKER 04 :
Very good question. So in this particular case, Judge Sotomayor, one of the liberal justices, has been assigned to this particular case. And so some of our listeners have noted that she is unlikely to vote in favor of Donald Trump. However, since this is a fairly momentous decision and it will have presidential value going forward, she may wish to invite, if you will, all of the members of the Supreme Court into this particular decision so they can take collective blame or praise. Yeah, I get that. That's good leadership. And so I think she will probably defer to the entire court before rendering a final judgment. That's just a guess. Please do not bet thousands of dollars on that guess.
SPEAKER 06 :
point as well, Professor Hutchison. There's really three things that we could see come out of this. One, Justice Sotomayor could rule on a stay by herself, and so therefore because of the way each justice is assigned one of the appellate jurisdictions and so this is where Justice Sotomayor receives these uh these appeals these ask for stay and things of that nature so that's just by the nature of where the court case was it wasn't luck of the draw it's just the normal path through the appellate process she could decide to issue a stay on her own she can refer as you mentioned to the entire supreme court to see if they can shoulder some of the blame or praise as you mentioned there or also they're not required to do anything as well. They could, especially with a Friday deadline, she can get the reply tomorrow and still not do anything. And then the, the time period, uh, dissolves on its own and the supreme court just sat on their hands which in many cases when you ask for a stay of this nature they don't respond especially when it is as you referred to you know normally in the normal course of jurisprudence a relatively minor issue for the supreme court something wouldn't typically even make it that far up But because of all the context, it being a president-elect, a former president, all of those issues, a presidential immunity ruling, that I feel like there's at least a little bit more likelihood of some sort of response. But that also, that interlocutory appeal issue, Supreme Court tends to not get involved until final judgment, final appeals judgment has gone through. You even remember the 14th Amendment case. They didn't step in. Until the Colorado Supreme Court, it had gone through the lower level, the appellate level, and then the Supreme Court of Colorado had to weigh in before they even jumped in. So as we said, we don't have a lot of answers, but it does feel like there are a lot of options for the Supreme Court to take here.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think there are tons of options, and certainly the coward's way out, you might say, is for the Supreme Court to do nothing. Just sit on their hands and allow the sentencing to move forward. They may, however, wish to intervene. Why? Because it involves the President of the United States, number one, and then number two, it involves their own decision-making. I think it is crystal clear as well that President Trump can adduce evidence showing that Judge Mershon allowed official acts to be brought before the jurors in this particular case. That then taints his sentencing decision, even if it's a non-custodial decision.
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so there um there's an argument to be made in favor of the supreme court intervening uh but i would not best bet my last dollar on it all right well thank you so much for the analysis a lot of great comments you're not getting this kind of commentary anywhere else we can't do that without your support we can't have this show the show's not uh you know paid for by corporate sponsors it is funded exclusively through the ACLJ supporters and ACLJ champions. That's what we encourage you today is become an ACLJ champion. That's someone that gives on a monthly basis who says, hey, you set that price. I think it's $5 minimum just because of processing fees, but we encourage you to go in, make it $25, $75, maybe do $100 a month to give monthly, to be a champion for the ACLJ. I've had people come up to me and say, I'm ACLJ champions, and that always makes me happy. It's always nice when I'm waiting in line for coffee and someone will tell me that. It's a really cool thing that's happened over the last year. So become an ACLJ champion today. Make this possible. And you're going to know why even more. You get this great analysis. But in the next segment, we are going to court. You're going to hear about our newest pro-life case that's about to really take shape. It's really kind of classic ACLJ. freedom of speech kind of content you're going to hear from one of our attorneys on that coming up in the next segment if you do have a question or comment we got full bank open right now tons of you watching but give us a call 1-800-684-3110 if you're brand new on youtube but you know about half of you are hit that subscribe button hit the thumbs up we'll be right back Welcome back to Secular. The ACLJ has been on the front lines of our fight for life for decades and decades. And you'd think that some of these cases that come about and these issues that come about should be settled. Well, often they are. But it doesn't mean you still don't have to fight them. And I'm excited today to talk about a new one. We have ACLJ attorney, Eldra McArdle, who is joining us. live right now via Zoom. Thanks for joining us. Why don't you give our audience just a brief background on what this current issue is and of course it's going to sound familiar because this is something the ACLJ has been fighting for since the 80s and here we are.
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Well thank you for having me first of all and I'm happy to share our current case, which involves a couple and specifically a man who has been arrested and cited for disorderly conduct based upon his actions on a particular day wherein he and his wife were advocating for unborn children in front of an abortion clinic. He was very composed. He used a megaphone and they basically cited him for using the megaphone because it was too loud, quote unquote. In the meantime, he was also, in my opinion, attacked and wrongly so, verbally, extremely vulgar, language used by the escorts that were at the clinic they basically used foul language and told his wife who herself is an abortion survivor so his wife's mother was planning to have an abortion and changed her mind and so he is now married to that individual well the escort at the abortion clinic basically told her that if she wanted to die they could they could make that happen And it was very rude. And so he has been charged with this worldly conduct. There is supposed to be a hearing tomorrow on on those charges, but he has not been served officially from the court. Municipal court when he pled not guilty in mayor's court, they shifted in Ohio to the municipal court and there they set a hearing. We are waiting to see whether they're going to go forward with that hearing tomorrow or whether they're going to go ahead and continue it. In the meantime, we are challenging his arrest and the constitutionality of the statute on both First Amendment and 14th Amendment grounds. First Amendment, obviously, on free speech, religious freedom. The content of the statute is unconstitutional, in our opinion. And also the... in equal or unequal application of that particular statute to this particular incident wherein he was the only one arrested and the escorts were not.
SPEAKER 06 :
when we we talk about this as well and you talk about the issues of the unequally applied law here they were the officers told him he caused annoyance or disturbance and that criminal citation under the noise ordinance uh says that it bans annoyance to another which is such a vague subjective statute in and of itself but when you have something here that is clearly uh is unequally applied. The pro-life individual is the one who is cited, placed in the back of a police car, and those that were, as you say, even making threats, being vulgar, had nothing happen to them, that raises the constitutional issues. But it also, I think, shows that even with the new administration coming in, that it is favorable to conservatives, to pro-life individuals, and those of us that stand for the sanctity of life, It also shows that our fight sometimes has to turn local and also ensure that we fight for the constitutional rights of everyday Americans, even in places that you may have not heard of, that may not be on the front page of the news. But that's what we're fighting here.
SPEAKER 01 :
absolutely and this is a local county cuyahoga county in ohio and it is a local ordinance and as i indicated it's going to be in municipal court which is a city court which is a very very low court in in the grand scheme of things you know you were just talking about the united states supreme court but still this is where it happens to everyday individuals and everyday life where uh abortion clinics are still permitted to be um taking place or advocating or advocating abortions in Ohio. And so they have statutes that try to, I'm going to say, suppress the First Amendment speech and the religious speech that goes with it or religious beliefs.
SPEAKER 05 :
At the end of the day, that's what we're talking about here. Not only a religious police, but we also are talking about the First Amendment is something that we have been talking about again for decades, making this very clear that your pro-life speech, just because it's pro-life doesn't mean it stops because you're on a public sidewalk in front of an abortion clinic. In fact, that's where speech should be maybe the most popular. protected but it's sort of a two-prong effort here at the aclj maybe go through that a little bit because we are both you know representing the client also taking on the statute you can kind of break that down a little bit uh before we really tell people how they can get engaged in this fight for life that we're continuing on
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes. So yeah, the criminal case obviously is the one that started it. And we have to dispose of that first. And the motion to dismiss that we're filing are based upon the First Amendment and 14th Amendment. And then ultimately, we would like to get it dismissed. And if it's not dismissed, we want to go forward and challenge it on the civil end as well. But you know, you can't challenge it civilly until you get through the criminal process. And so we are It's sort of a hybrid and bifurcated case that we will be handling, but hopefully we will be very successful. I think we will. The conduct in this case was witnessed by the actual police officer. So the security guard was a private security guard who was employed by the Cuyahoga County Police. He was the one that I believe called the Cuyahoga County Police to come and cite our clients. So it is two-pronged, but we certainly are still fighting for pro-life. We're fighting for free speech, and we are encouraging everybody to jump on board and help us out.
SPEAKER 06 :
And Elgin, we are we're happy to fight this. And it is interesting. This is the second 14th Amendment case that we have worked on with you. One being the 14th Amendment ballot ban that was trying to go forward by the left. And now this the equal protection clauses within the 14th Amendment, same amendment, very different purposes here.
SPEAKER 01 :
Very, very different. But hopefully we'll be as successful in this one as we were in the last.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much for joining us. If you want to join us in this fight today, as you heard, we are getting involved in filing critical motion in the courts in Ohio. And of course, you've heard about our campaign in Massachusetts. Hopefully you have. Where the state has been trying to shut down pro-life pregnancy centers and pressure women into having abortions, not going through those. And we are going to be fighting that. Not just... But we are also launching a $500,000 campaign, ad campaign, throughout the state of Massachusetts. And we want to bring that around the country to promote life in a really effective, beautiful way, in a way that is not shameful, not condemning. It is a great campaign that our team promotes. put together. So I'm going to encourage you to go to aclj.org to support that aclj.org slash save babies. You can scan the QR code as well to learn more. These battles require resources all year long. And of course we were trying to raise the funds for the total ad campaign as well. And the support of ACLJ individual donors is great, but you can also become and aclj champion as we head to the end of this first half hour some of you lose us on your local radio stations you can find us broadcasting live on youtube on rumble on aclj.org and now live on the salem news channel each and every day from noon to 1 p.m eastern work your way back but the support of the aclj members and aclj champions that's people that give on a recurring monthly basis automatically Or really, what keeps this going? It's a small group of people that are ACLJ champions. We want to see that double this year. So will you join us in that fight? Help protect the unborn at ACLJ.org slash champions. Again, a second half hour coming up. We got a lot of phone lines open for as many of you watching right now. So if you ever wanted to hear your voice on the radio... See it on YouTube. On the Salem News Channel. Give us a call. 1-800-684-3110. Be kind to our phone screeners. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Keeping you informed and engaged. Now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. Second half hour coming up right now. Give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. For a lot of you just joining us, I wanted to restate that breaking news item. Will, and maybe you can go through it here as President Trump has filed that emergency petition to the Supreme Court. And we need an answer soon. That is for the case in New York. And he would like to delay sentencing. And he does that by taking it up a notch, taking it to the Supreme Court of the United States.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. Because President Trump has an interlocutory appeal, so an appeal that is in the middle of the proceedings, the final judgment after sentencing has not been handed down. So he's asked for an appeal on the ruling of Judge Mershon about immunity. Judge Mershon decided to not dismiss the case based off the Supreme Court's immunity ruling. President Trump appealed that decision by Judge Mershon. And so now he's asked the Supreme Court to stay the proceedings, so stop the proceedings in the court and effectively stopping the sentencing that is supposed to happen, that is scheduled to happen on Friday while that appeal continues on, on the immunity ruling. He asked the Judge Mershon on Monday to do that. He denied that. He went to the Appeals Court of New York. They also declined to stay the proceedings. And so now he's taken it an application for stay to the US Supreme Court. The way this works is it gets assigned to a justice that has a circuit assignment. So because this is coming out of New York, She has the Second Circuit, is where all the appeals go through, from the Second Circuit, go to Justice Sotomayor. If it were Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and the U.S. Virgin Islands, that'd be the Third Circuit, it'd go to Samuel Alito. So it's all based off of the circuit assignment that these justices have. Sotomayor now has this application. She has requested a response from Alvin Bragg's team by tomorrow at 10 a.m., And then she has some options. She can do nothing. Let it sit. There's no required time. Right. There's no required time. The Supreme Court doesn't have to even respond. She could rule or issue an order on this application for a stay by herself. or she can refer the application to the entire court then the court would have to vote on whether or not to issue the stay on an application for stay to grant a stay it takes five members to grant cert we normally talk about it counts that you need four that to grant a case but this is just an application for stay it's an emergency application it would take four justices to grant this, five justices rather, to grant this stay and to stop that sentencing on Friday. Now, we will talk about a little bit later. Maybe we'll get back into some of the issues on whether or not this is normal, what they have done. Is there any precedent for this? Spoiler alert, the answer is no in this case because they just ruled on presidential immunity earlier this year. So this is really their first test case reaching them.
SPEAKER 05 :
after their immunity ruling earlier this year so a lot to unpack there and we'll get into more of it later we got some other news coming up too viewers have been going up because i think people are interested in this i'd love to hear from you if you have a question or comment related to this you know what i've seen obviously in the last day as well is president trump making the claim and at first i thought okay this is a president trump kind of joke that would happen taken out of context becomes the news which is that whole gulf of america comment which is will we be making the gulf of of america he made some interesting points but i want to know your thoughts you know precedent over what's happening right now hundreds of years but question for you do you like that president trump is taking on these kind of topics or do you want him to be focused solely on things like the economy and safety of our people which is why I think a lot of you voted for it. It's kind of fun to discuss it. I think a lot of it is moving around, you know, pieces. It's negotiation tactics. Same with what's happening in Greenland, what's going on all around the world in terms of the Panama Canal, all those discussions. What do you think about that? I want to get your thoughts because I would love to hear from the viewers. 1-800-684-3110. President Trump's bigger announcements, if you will. 1-800-684-3110 to give us a call. Of course, support the work of the ACLJ if you can today and become an ACLJ champion, a monthly recurring member. We'll be right back with your calls and comments and more on Zekula. Welcome back to Seculo. Hey, we are taking your phone calls. And look, I can see how many of you are watching right now. Thousands of you are just watching on YouTube and on Rumble. Maybe some of you are watching on the Salem News Channel. Give us a call. I don't want to be someone begging here for calls. But come on, you've got to have a question or comment. I'd love to hear from you. This is a great time to call in. 1-800-684-3110. Will, we did want to give an update, you know, again. I always think we're never going to hear the name Jack Smith again. And somehow every day, every day, Will, you're like, I got a new Jack Smith update. Why don't you give it to us?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we talked about this a little bit yesterday, that President Trump was asking Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, to not release the Jack Smith report, saying it wasn't in the public interest. As well, we talked about that the... Co-defendants in the Mar-a-Lago case, the classified documents case, had filed with the court a request to block the release of it, mainly because it's still on appeal. The Justice Department is appealing the ruling by Judge Cannon that threw the case out, saying that special counsel Jack Smith was not properly or constitutionally appointed. So what we've got today is new news out of the Department of Justice that Merrick Garland, who is the one who makes the decision statutorily based off the law, if the release of a special counsel's report will happen. So he's got about what? At this point, I mean, we're talking about 12 days to decide to get it out. And he had earlier said months ago that at the conclusion of the work, he thinks it would be in the public interest to release the special counsel's report. He'd been quiet since the election. And now what we're hearing is that Merrick Garland will release the part of the special counsel's report it will be two volumes one volume on the election interference january 6 investigation that was with uh the the judge in dc the dc uh district court and then the second volume is on the classified documents case out of florida with judge cannon because of judge cannon's move yesterday she blocked the release while these appeals are going on for the other uh the both the justice department trying to uh say that the special counsel was properly appointed uh the judge has said you can't release that one right now it's still in the system uh the appeals court has this before them and you need to wait so That part will not be released. The Mar-a-Lago raid, the documents case, volume two of Jack Smith is not going to be released. But Merrick Garland has said that he intends to release volume one. Yes. Volume two coming later next year.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's like Wicked. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
One year this, but I also assume that if it goes past January 20th, Pam Bondi is not going to release a second volume. So that's where we're at. Of this, of Wicked. Wicked will become part two.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't think she has any say in that, really. You never know. President Trump can make a lot of moves. He's saying we're going to rename the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America. It's just good. Calling it good. It's no longer wicked. Wicked, too, is wicked for good. Well, there you go. You didn't even know that. It's just in your head. Well, because it should be one film. Jack Smith's double album coming soon.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that's where we're at. Merrick Garland, the attorney general, is trying to get one. the last shot at President Trump. We also know from reporting that President Biden was frustrated with the Attorney General. In some of this reporting it was one of his regrets that he picked Merrick Garland, gave him that consolation prize after not being confirmed by a Republican Senate to the Supreme Court. He was made the Attorney General. A lot of other Democrats wanted Doug Jones from Alabama. They thought that he would be a lot more aggressive as an Attorney General. They're probably not wrong. Merrick Garland, President Biden was concerned that he slow walked the January 6th investigation and therefore he allowed Trump to become president again. So I think this may be Merrick Garland saying, I'll get one more shot at President Trump on my way out the door. All right, let's take some calls. Look, a lot of you have called in now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Stay on hold. Screen some of those calls. We'll get it done. Not you, Will. The other Will. Bob in Michigan, line one. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, thanks, guys. The appellate judge threw out the case to delay the sentencing based on the idea that President Trump is not, right now, the President of the United States. And my argument would be that although... J.D. Vance would have a shot at being the 48th president of the United States. My idea is that Trump right now is the 47th president of the United States. He'll go down in history. It's irrevocable. He's going to be the 47th president of the United States, but he also is right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Bob, not to cut you off, but they actually made a bit of that argument.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and Bob, he is not currently the 47th because he will not be the president until inauguration. He is president-elect, the 47th president-elect. It's been certified, but he does not become the 47th president until January 20th at noon Eastern time when he is sworn in on the steps of the Capitol in Washington, D.C. But you do raise a good point. And that is part of the argument that President Trump's lawyers filed in this emergency application to the U.S. Supreme Court. Specifically, they have three questions presented. One about is there an automatic stay when there's an interlocutory appeal about presidential immunity, something that's never been raised before because there was no Supreme Court precedent until now. But the third question presented is, It goes specifically to what you're saying, Bob. It says whether a sitting president's complete immunity from criminal prosecution during his term in office extends to the president-elect of the United States during the brief but crucial period between his election, his certification as president-elect, which has now occurred on monday and his inauguration as he conducts presidential transition activities that are integral and preparatory to his imminent assumption of the executive power of the united states so bob you're asking the right question that's the same question that trump's lawyers are presenting to the supreme court is that even now can you be sentencing a president-elect based off of presidential immunity rulings because he's having to we talk about the transition period between election and the new presidency there's a lot of movement going on and there is a lot of that's even why there's briefings to the president-elect on intelligence there's all these things that are very critical official government activities to ensure that the president is ready on day one to assume the executive office of presidency.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're going to be taking more calls. Keep calling 1-800-684-3110. And we're not ignoring the fires that are happening in California. Obviously, that has been absolutely devastating in the Pacific Palisades and Malibu and other areas that are being just really ravaged by these wildfires. We have different content to produce here. If you want to find out more information about that, there are other outlets for that, but we'll continue to cover that. Obviously, our prayers are with our friends and colleagues. in that area including rick grinnell who's on this show every week so give us a call 1-800-684-3110 we had a bunch but i don't think he was waiting on holds keep keep holding uh james is calling in florida on line three james welcome
SPEAKER 08 :
Hello, guys. Thank you for everything you guys do. I was going to make a comment. Basically, I was born in Panama. And then I remember I was like seven years old when the treaty was signed by Torrijos and late President Carter. And I will tell you that I'm glad that President-elect Trump is looking up, looking out, looking up into any violations that the Panamanian government may have done to the treaty, you know, because to me, the Panama was very prosperous when the canal was under the U.S. hands and it was safer. Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, James, thank you for calling. I think that's a great perspective that maybe people need to hear. You hear these moments of President Trump saying, hey, we need to take back the Panama Canal. And of course, there are moments where people go, and then you start really looking into the details. You go, OK, well, he's not necessarily wrong here. Not wrong, at least in the thinking. Not wrong in the thinking of what's going on in Greenland, even, which I know sounds aggressive. It sounds bizarre. But when you're talking about the location of where that country is situated and the trade that goes through there and the trade that goes through the Panama Canal, the U.S. getting more involved certainly would not be a bad thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And when you even think about the concept of the Panama Canal, even more so than Greenland, while strategically the importance of Greenland is very apparent. But when you think about one, the the push for global dominance by China, you think about the fact that we built the Panama Canal. We built it, had control over it. I mean, John McCain was born in Panama because his father was working in the Panama Canal Zone. And so you think about the history and the ingenuity and how much prosperity to the world because of what the United States did by building that canal. And then Jimmy Carter handed over control of the Panama Canal to the Panamanians. When you think about it, I know most people watching the show have probably been frustrated about this for a very long time. Many people have. The fact that we ceded control of one of the most important shipping lanes in this hemisphere, it seems absurd. And so even to that point, President Trump makes very valid, very strong points. If you're looking to build up American independence, security, as well as our ability to affect our trading partners, I think us taking back control of the Panama Canal should be a no-brainer for many people.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, absolutely. Phone lines are still open at 1-800-684-3110. A few people said they've been... You know, they call and it keeps ringing and ringing. Give it time. We got to let people get screened through and our screeners got to do this job. So stay on hold and just wait through the ringing. Someone will pick up the phone. 1-800-684-3110. Become an ACLJ champion today. Again, that's someone who supports the ACLJ on a monthly recurring basis. Again, our prayers to our friends and everyone in California going through the wildfires right now. We'll be right back with your calls and comments coming up. All right, last segment of the day, and I'd like to hear from as many of you as possible. We've got some great comments from YouTube and some callers coming in. Will, we had a comment from YouTube you wanted to take real quick.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, this is Shelly on YouTube, and she's asking, what happens if Trump doesn't show up for the sentencing? Is there an arrest warrant put out? When Judge Mershon rescheduled the sentencing for this Friday, he actually made it clear that President Trump didn't have to be there in person. They could do a virtual appearance. They could do it other ways. And that's also mainly because he's already signaled that the sentence is most likely, he said, I see the best path forward, what's called an unconditional discharge. What that means is that it goes in the books as convicted felon, he's been sentenced, but there's no penalties, there's no probation, there's nothing. It's just an unconditional discharge. You're free to go, but you're a convicted felon. Thank you very much. And he also tried to say that's, you know, this will help president Trump move forward with his appeal because it'll resolve the case here. We're done here. Then he can appeal it at the appeals court as if that's a nice, thank you very much from the judge that the entire time, uh, has been showing his hand of potentially not being in favor of the 47th president elect.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let's go ahead and take some calls. Eric is calling in Texas, watching on the Salem News Channel, so that's very cool. Welcome, a new live member to our set. We're now on live every day from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern on the Salem News Channel. You can find that live on their website or on Pluto and a few other options, I believe. Just go check out what they're doing there. Great lineup of hosts. Eric, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, sir. Thank you. I enjoy your show and appreciate your work. What I want to talk about... It's what you spoke about is like Merrick Garland and all these lawfare trials going against, of course, Trump and his associates and other conservatives around the. The nation, there has to be some kind of counterpunch to like when they bring forth these bogus lawsuits and. and lawfare that they, uh, that these people are punished when they actually break the law. Like for example, when they, uh, throw some of these pro-life families and stuff in jail and endless, uh, trials just meant to like break people and make them go bankrupt, you know? And, uh, there has to be something that we, that, and if we don't have a counter punch to this, then why there's no turn to, for them to like keep bringing forth more, uh,
SPEAKER 05 :
uh stalin stalin style uh kind of suits yeah i would say we do have a counter punch some of it is what we do here at the aclj obviously for the pro-lifers as you mentioned uh we talked about that today we have a new client that we are representing who was uh protesting in front of an abortion clinic was uh you know making his voice heard his wife and was arrested for it we are taking that to court Because we believe, and we do that absolutely for free. We do that because the ACLJ, great members and ACLJ champions and individual donors that support the work of the ACLJ continue. But for President Trump specifically, I mean, maybe one of the biggest counter punches has been he won the election. Right. He won the general election as both the popular vote and the electoral college, every swing state. And we saw that certified. So though it may feel that way, there are some times where a win can still happen.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And I think another legal counterpunch is the cabinet. If you go to ACLJ.org slash petitions, the second one on there right now is confirm Trump's national security team now. Who does that involve? The attorney general of the United States, Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, who will be the director of the FBI, as well as Tulsi Gabbard, our colleague here, until now she moves on to be the next director of national intelligence. But you need those people in quickly. You need their deputies in quickly. The Senate has to get on this. I know they're starting hearings next week to be ahead of the curve so that when President Trump is sworn in, they can actually confirm these people. But that's the way you start cleaning it up. And that's when they can also look and see if there was any impropriety, because unless documents are missing, they should be in the Department of Justice and they will be able to look into it.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, let's go ahead and continue on with our calls. Let's go to Lori, who's calling in California, watching on YouTube. Hey, I want to say something to YouTube viewers because there's a lot today. We are only about, let me see where we're at exactly. We're at 250 subscribers away from hitting 450,000 YouTube subscribers. So I know, just because I know how the analytics work, there are more than 200 of you watching that are brand new or haven't hit that subscribe button. Because usually only about 50% of the people watching are active subscribers. You may have been served this, but you're still not maybe subscribing to the ACLJ channel. Hit that subscribe button. Let's get this over 450,000 while we're on live in the next four minutes. See if you can do it. Hopefully you can take the challenge. Lori, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi, I've really enjoyed all of your work trying to help President Trump. And, you know, I have watched cases sometimes where people go in at the last minute as interveners. And I'm wondering... is that possible or can the ACLU, boy, that was a mistake.
SPEAKER 05 :
The ACLJ, I understand how it happens.
SPEAKER 09 :
I understand the ACLU. Okay, can we come up with a template And every time I get after President Trump, do something, because I've had a guts full of all of it. It's like, what are they going to try next? They're going to say, oh, he's a felon, so he can't be president. It just never ends.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it does feel like a never-ending struggle, Laurie. And look, we've been there for President Trump when he's needed. Our legal team and we've obviously been, Jordan and other members of our team are obviously involved and engaged in a lot of that. What I'll say is it can't really be templated because so much of it is different in each individual case, individual state, whether it's federal, whether it's, you know, there's so much that goes on. I know you feel that way and it does feel that way. It's exhausting. But then you have President Trump also taking all of his legal options and throwing them against the wall as well when you have something like the sentencing coming up on Friday. We don't know how that will end up, but we know at least they are going to try everything they can.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And at this point, the application for stay is at the United States Supreme Court. We hope that we will maybe hear something tomorrow, whether or not they put a stay in place and that sentencing goes forward on Friday or not. But we'll know very soon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. And hey, two minutes left in this show and we have 200 subscribers away from hitting 450,000. Do it right now. Let's go quickly. Let's take one more. Who's going to hold long as you'll get it? Let's go to Sid in Texas. Steve, I'm sorry. I don't know if we'll be able to get to you, but stay on hold. We'll try. Sid, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, I think this is totally cool that we are having conversations about Greenland, the Gulf of America, etc. Trump is so multitask. Yeah. I mean, there is multitask. It's fun.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I mean, Sid definitely is bringing up new topics. I don't think anyone's been discussing beforehand and give you something new to think about. And what I like about these topics, because at first you had sort of a gut reaction. That's not necessarily positive. And then you start looking into the facts and you're like, Oh, it doesn't seem like it's wrong on this. Maybe we should be doing this quickly. Steve in Tennessee, watch it on the Salem news channel. Steve quickly. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Uh, thank y'all for what you do each and every day, keeping us informed. Um, I just wanted to make a comment about, uh, Pam lock. Now, uh, we should have never turned it over in the first place, but, uh, I'm glad, uh, president Trump has a thought to, uh, see that we try and get that back. Uh, also, uh, uh, when it comes to Canada and the other territories that, uh, protect the United States. and that we have a presence in, if we have a presence and we're spending young boys' blood, our heritage of the United States, when we put forth those guys there, and if we have to spend blood, Those territories should become part of the United States.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Steve, thank you for your comment so much. I don't mean to cut you off. We are just running out of time. We only have about 30 seconds left. Thank you all for watching. A lot of brand new viewers, a lot of brand new subscribers. Let's see where we're at. Oh, we're getting close. Go ahead, hit that subscribe button. I'll take it as a win if we get it in the next couple hours. So, hey, hit that subscribe button even if you're watching later on. I would love to hit 450,000 YouTube subscribers today. Thanks again for watching. Support the work of the ACLJ, whether it is our pro-life cases or whatever it is that we're involved in. You can find out more information at ACLJ.org and I encourage you to become a monthly recurring member and ACLJ champion. Talk to you tomorrow.
In this compelling episode of the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast, hosts Neil, Bob, and John tackle the pressing issues of the day, right from the heart of America. The discussion navigates through the controversial topic of wildfires in California, focusing on how environmental policies might be exacerbating the situation. The hosts then delve deep into a chilling terrorist attack on New Year's Day in New Orleans, pondering the motivations and implications of such home-grown extremist actions. It’s a gripping conversation that seeks to understand not just the issues but the roots behind them. Moving on to a broader perspective, the team dissects Mark Zuckerberg's recent announcement regarding free speech on Meta platforms and their decision to distance from third-party fact checkers. The hosts express skepticism over whether these changes reflect a genuine ideological shift or are merely prompted by external pressures, including competition from platforms like X and a changing political landscape. Tune in to hear thoughtful insights into how these technological and political changes might shape communication and transparency in the digital age.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the National Crawford Roundtable podcast, a view of culture, current events, and politics through a biblical lens, brought to you by Preborn, saving babies and souls. Join us in the fight to save babies from abortion. Your gift provides a free ultrasound for a mother in need. 80% of the time, she will choose life. Visit CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on the Preborn logo to donate to save babies now. and by SunPower LED light therapy devices. Bring light to your pain. Visit CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on the SunPower LED logo to get out of pain and improve your overall wellness. And now, here are your hosts, Neil Boron, Bob Duco, and John Rush.
SPEAKER 04 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys, Neil and John, myself, Bob. Hey, guys, how are you? Happy 2025. Happy New Year, man. Good. Well, you too. You know, there's a lot of things for us to talk about here.
SPEAKER 02 :
Come on, Bob. There's nothing going on right now. Nothing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nothing really happening in the news. Let's see. You know, we've got a distant suburb here of Detroit that's putting in a new playscape in the local park. So maybe we'll talk about that for an hour. Got it. Oh, boy. No, there's actually a whole bunch of things going on. We've got the wildfires in California. We have the terrorist attack in New Orleans that took place. We've got Mark Zuckerberg announcing there. What do you know? Going to embrace free speech and not censorship. Justin Trudeau in Canada stepping down. Joe Biden's executive action banning drilling. Drill, baby, drill. January 6th, four years later, should Trump pardon? I mean, there's just so many different things for us to talk about. So let's just start diving through and peppering them one at a time. Let's start with the wildfires, first of all. John, you and I were talking about this a little bit before the podcast started. Every time... Every time we see these wildfires in California, it makes my eye twitch because you wonder, when are the liberal Hollywood types and the rich gazillionaires out there that are watching their mansions burn, when are they going to realize that the environmental policies of left-wing California to refuse to properly manage the forest, refuse to clear the underbrush, because after all, we can't mess with the natural habitat of the Norwegian spotted worm. I mean... When are they going to realize that their own environmental policies caused the slightest spark to, boom, spread like wildfire?
SPEAKER 02 :
And it happens all over the country, Bob. It's not just California, although with California, it seems like it's an annual repetitive thing. And again, my hearts and thoughts and prayers go out to the people that are being affected by this. I mean, I, you know, full hand understand exactly what they're going through. On the same token, to your point, Bob, there are ways to mitigate this on the front side. And a lot of folks, even in the, you know, power company end of things and so on, will tell the states, these are the things that we should be doing, but then they're not allowed to.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Exactly. And, you know, Neil, I don't know. You don't really we don't hear that many wildfires spreading through New York or Michigan, I suppose. But it I mean, John makes a good point. They're not managing the forests properly. But if they did, then the environmentalists get all up in arms over it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, and I mean, the only wildfires that we've been affected by in any way were Canadian wildfires. And in some ways, because of the same policies you're seeing in places like Canada, I thank God I live in Buffalo, New York, and I'll take a snowstorm over a wildfire any day. But you're 100% right. And if the policies of the government of the state of California and federal government policies are contributing to this, then it's time to open their eyes and realize that this is costing them way more in the long run.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, so we'll see, but obviously we want to be praying for the people out there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Really quick, just to throw this in, the whole environmental end of things and so on, you never hear them talk about, because of the lack of planning on the front side and trying to eliminate as many of these fires, how much smoke and pollution and things along those lines go up into the sky and the atmosphere and people are having to breathe and so on, that if we manage things correctly on the front side, and this is always also interesting, I just looked at the nationwide fire map There's not just one fire in California, guys. There's about 30 right now across the western United States.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm thinking they should figure out what the carbon footprint of this is. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
The thing about the Canadian wildfires, and the reason I mentioned it, is because we were affected for the better part of two weeks by the smoke that was trailing down here, drifting across like a Chinese spy balloon. And it covered a good portion of the upper northeast, and it became a real issue. All of it was wafting out of Canada. We had it here in Michigan, too. Did you really?
SPEAKER 02 :
It came all the way down here to Colorado, guys.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good Lord. Yeah, that's a big problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, maybe the answer is just putting some tariffs on Canada. Maybe we'll get to that, too. We haven't had a chance to talk about the terrorist attack in New Orleans here on the podcast. The New Year's Day, early in the morning, early New Year's Eve, but in the middle of the night, bourbon street this islamic jihadi terrorist let's call it the way that it is right drives his truck through a crowd of people and he had already scanned out and scoped the area prior to this we now know but killing 14 people injuring over 30 this was an islamic jihadi terrorist attack and no this guy wasn't an illegal alien okay he was born here in the united states he was a a He lived in Houston. He was a U.S. citizen. OK, but he was, quote unquote, radicalized, which basically converted to Islam. Family was actually raised a Christian family, but he converted to Islam. But he converted to and I know this is politically incorrect, but I'm just going to say it. He converted to pure Islam, the kind of Islam that Muhammad himself practiced. OK. And but the fact is that I'm glad that most Muslims converted. don't embrace jihadi terrorism. I'm glad that they don't, but that's because they're nominal Muslims who aren't really following what Muhammad taught and what's in the Quran and what's in the Hadiths. But it's like, okay, fine. But that's who this guy was. That's what he did. And then a few hours later, you have this Tesla explosion with this guy that, for all intent and purposes, appears to be a Trump supporter and then blows himself up in front of the Trump Hotel, right in front of it in Las Vegas. And it's like, what in the world is going on here? Tom Holman, the incoming Trump border czar, says his gut tells him that these two are probably connected, but he could be wrong. It looks to me like it might just be two freakish coincidences. But I mean, I don't know what you guys take on this.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's almost like, and I've read a lot, and of course, one guy from Carter Springs, the Cybertruck guy, and Sons and I were talking a lot about this after it had happened, and that one of the two guys is just weird. And I'm not, you guys know me, I'm not a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist by any stretch of the imagination, but... That one, just for some odd reason, I don't know, just doesn't add up. Now, was he just trying to raise awareness as to what's really going on in the country and wanted to, according to his manifesto, bring all of that to light and so on? Guys, I don't know. I have no idea. But that one of the two doesn't add up.
SPEAKER 04 :
And he rents a Tesla. It's not like he owned it and he just used his own car.
SPEAKER 02 :
He rented it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Specifically rented a Tesla. So this was clearly an Elon Musk, Donald Trump message from a Trump supporter. Unless maybe he was one of the disillusioned guys that, for whatever reason, went sour on Trump and didn't have time to post his I've changed my mind about Trump and Musk on social media kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're right. I'm scratching my head, too. Was it that he was trying to send a message and he got a Cybertruck knowing that you'd have the least amount of casualty coming out of that? I mean, this guy was an expert. He could have blown up the entire tower had he wanted to. He could have blown up a whole city block if he wanted to. That's the kind of expertise this guy had in his background. So, again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this is the one out of the two that just doesn't add up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I suspect personally that they were unrelated. I mean, that's my gut feeling, and the reason I say that is because... Of some of the other things that have circulated regarding the situation in Las Vegas, you know, the Tesla situation, one being that there was some sort of question about infidelity in his family. Also, that he was potentially suffering from PTSD and CTE. And I mean, you know, like Mike Webster of the Pittsburgh Steelers took his own life because he couldn't handle what was happening inside his head regarding CTE. So who knows just how damaged this individual was and what exactly was going on there? You know, was it a, hey, I'm in favor of Trump and Musk and I want to go out in a blaze of glory kind of thing? I don't know. So I would hate to speculate on that one. Regarding the one in New Orleans, just real quick. I don't—you know, there's a lot of criticism of they should have had more barriers up and everything, and that's the human response to all this stuff. It's always, well, if we just did a better job, if we beefed up security a little bit more, we could stop this. Well, are you telling me that there wasn't any people on the other side of the barrier, or if there had been a barrier in place? I mean, you could go to a Walmart parking lot in New Orleans and drive a truck through a crowd of people coming out of a Walmart, taking advantage of an after-Christmas sale. Like— I don't know that we're ever really going to be able to stop that kind of stuff. And I don't want to minimize the idea of national security or anything. We certainly need it. But ultimately, it comes down to human hearts. And I mean, I say this very tongue in cheek and not disrespectfully, but. For all the people that call for common sense gun laws, well, we've now seen a couple of trucks driven into crowds. You had the Christmas market incident in Germany. What do we need? Common sense truck laws? Stricter licensing laws or common sense laws regarding how to get a driver's license? That's not going to stop these events. And ultimately... We need to pray and do the best we can to secure public sites. And I know the Super Bowl is going to be in New Orleans and all of that, but it comes down to we need to change human hearts, and only Jesus can do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's so true. And, of course, we have to wonder how many ISIS terrorists, al-Qaeda terrorists, have flooded over the borders, the open borders over the last four years and are infiltrated here in the United States. And, you know, this guy was homegrown. Okay, fine. But, you know, how many others and like-minded people are here and what kind of cells are building and operating? Remember, 9-11 took six years to plan and carry out from 19 people. How many hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of ISIS jihadis do we have in this country right now through the open borders?
SPEAKER 02 :
And I think just as a note to everybody listening, Bob, our listeners, that you've got to be diligent. You've got to be watching. I hate to say that, but you've got to have your head on a swivel and be paying attention to everything that's going on at all times. And not to be critical, but my dad always told me nothing good happens after midnight.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very true. My mom said the same thing. They were both right. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
And be careful out there and pay attention. Actually, you know what, Neal, I will say because coming up next we're going to talk about Mark Zuckerberg, Meta, Facebook, and all of that and the changes coming there. And we do, Neal, appreciate people listening to this podcast. We certainly appreciate them supporting the sponsors of this podcast like SunPowerLED.
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SPEAKER 02 :
It's a business decision. It's a CYA business decision. Let's make sure that we can keep moving forward like we've done. I want to stay the billionaire that I am. I want the company to continue to grow. We know who's going to now be in charge. We've got to make sure that we kiss the right ring, if you would, Bob. And at the end of the day, that's what this is all about. Yeah, he did not have some come-to-Jesus meeting and all of a sudden turn the tide. He's doing this strictly for his business.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I'll tell you what, Democrats get back control of Congress in 2028 or 2026. If that happens, 2026, 2027, they get in. They take back control of the House or the Senate. You watch. Suddenly they're going to bring back third party fact checkers or at least they'll be making their same algorithm mistakes and glitches that coincidentally are 100 percent against Republicans and zero percent against Democrats. So, Neil, I'm just I'm not buying it, but at least, hey, temporarily, it looks like conservatives will at least have a social media viewpoint that's allowed to be heard.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I don't know if you used the term Trump factor, but I think you talked about it prior to today's podcast. Yeah, I mean, there's been a major change.
SPEAKER 02 :
And really quick, you know, Neil, before you move on, is it a Trump factor or is this also because of what Musk did with X, you now have to compete on a different level?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably both. In fact, for sure both. But I think there's a third element, and that's what happened in the election. And yes, Trump was a part of the election. But there's a real change in the attitude amongst Americans about the way government functions and about what we're hearing from the national media, etc., etc. And I honestly think that the successful CBS lawsuit that Trump filed against CBS – for defamation, you know, weighs into it as well. And so what you got here is a guy who's not stupid. He's running a multi-million or billion-dollar company, and he sees the handwriting on the wall. And what's going to be good for business? What do we need to do to make people, placate people anyway, make them to believe that we're on their team and we really care about things like free speech? We care about your free speech. Well, you didn't 10 minutes ago. But after the election, all of a sudden, oh, this is all going to change. And I think you're 100 percent right, Bob, to be really skeptical about Zuckerberg's attitude on all this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, I'm I'm not buying it. But, hey, you know what? We'll take the temporary opportunity to to at least be able to get some of our viewpoints out there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and really quick guys, the only other thing, again, keeping him in check is, is now X. I mean, I don't know what, I haven't looked to see what, you know, Facebook has done, what their revenue has been like and so on, but you got to believe that X is taking a big dent out of the Facebooks of the world. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and let's face it, there is kind of a move right now. There's a wave of sentiment that says the left-wing censorship machine and targeting conservatives or whatever has gotten out of hand. There is some blowback from that. And, you know, so it could be a thing where Zuckerberg just realizes, you know what, here's the direction the wind is blowing. And so I got to go with the winds right now. But I don't believe that that's in his heart at all, no matter how many statements they put out going, this is getting back to the roots of what we really believe in. And no, it's not. You're a bunch of left wing liberals.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think there's a big difference. Yeah. I think there's a big difference between what people can see with their own eyes and what they've been told they need to believe. Right. I mean, you had government officials covering up the whole Biden thing. He's 100 percent fit. He's totally ready to serve another four years. So you had government officials telling you that you had the legacy media falling into place. you know leaders in congress and so forth schumer by the way you know acting like he's always been aware that there might be a problem or that he never really knew it was a problem now they're playing clips of him you know talking about the fact that if you even mentioned biden's mental acuity a few years ago you were basically a conspiracy theorist i mean the american people february just less than a year ago he said that's right-wing propaganda Right. Okay. So the American people have been accused of being conspiracy theorists. And I think they've come to their senses and said, no, we're not. And now we have proof. So in that environment, combined with everything else we said, I don't think Zuckerberg thinks it's going to be a good practice, particularly, as John said, because of what X has been doing and popularity of X right now regarding free speech.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, in Canada, and Neil, both you and me have a decent amount of Canadian listeners to our shows, you got Justin Trudeau, prime minister, announcing his resignation. All right, so replace me with somebody else to take on Pierre Polyev, the conservative, who's kind of being treated as a Canadian Donald Trump. He's a populist and somewhat conservative and such. But you know what? A poll, a recent poll was taken in Canada asking Canadians, do you support the Conservative Party or the Liberal Party, which in essence is like the Republicans, Democrats here, 47% said the Conservatives, 18% said the Liberal Party. And then the rest are like, I don't know. But my goodness, that's a that's a huge difference. And Neil, what are some of your thoughts on Justin Trudeau, in essence, getting pushed out by his own liberal party for not being liberal left wing enough and not being willing to stand up to Donald Trump regarding the tariffs and such?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, obviously we've got a conservative listening audience by and large and a tremendous number of Canadians. We're very near Toronto and we cover the Toronto area. So that's kind of like New York City to the north. So about 75% of the listening audience to my radio program is Canadian. And there was literally elation over the announcement that he was going to be stepping down. Couldn't happen fast enough. People want Trudeau out. And it's not just like he's been liberal. He's... off the rails progressively liberal he could if he was a woman he could have been member of the squad or if he identified as one i guess you know like just absolutely liberal policies that mainstream canadians want nothing to do with long term so i think that there's hope that some sanity is going to be restored to the country but you know they're under tremendous burden right now the federal government in canada if i have this information right spent $6,000 per family in Canada above their means. Like, in other words, take the Canadian budget and then add $6,000 per family. That's how much they overspent last year. They've got billions and billions of dollars in federal annual deficit that they have to deal with. Taxes are overwhelming, people can't afford homes, and they want change. And they don't want nonsense. And I think, honestly, that freedom convoy on the heels of COVID had a lot to do with turning people against Trudeau and the liberal government and saying, we don't want any more of this progressive baloney. Give us some common sense again. We want common sense back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And by the way, we're coming up on the half hour here. And in the second half, we're going to talk a little bit more about Justin Trudeau and get your take on that too, John, as we continue. But in the meantime, Neil, we do want to remind our listeners, we very much want them to support our sponsors to this podcast. And SunPowerLED is a tremendous sponsor. It's helped a lot of people get out of pain.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Continuing the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York, myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. And so, guys, when we got to the end of the first half, we were talking about what's happening in Canada, Justin Trudeau stepping down from his Liberal Party. And, you know, John, I'm curious to get your take on this, too, because Justin Trudeau – It's not like he's a left-of-center guy. He's a Marxist. He's extremely left-wing Marxist. Absolutely. And an important point that Neil made about that, remember the truckers, the freedom convoy of truckers. But not just that. Pastors like Artur Pawlowski that he had imprisoned, imprisoning pastors, throwing business owners in jail because they were trying to keep their small business open for the sake of their livelihood. Right. Freezing people's assets? Yeah, seizing the bank accounts and freezing the bank accounts of not just some of these truckers, but even supporters that would attend rallies for them. A pastor shows up and merely speaks, doesn't call for violence, nothing at all. He gets handcuffed and thrown in jail for this, so...
SPEAKER 02 :
I say this guy's a total Marxist and I don't have the same connections to Canada that you two do, although I've got some good friends that live up in that area. And the minute I heard the news, I sent a text message off. Let's just say that at least the Canadians I know are not disappointed in the least, Bob, because of all the things you and Neil have just got done talking about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
The guy's literally a Marxist monster. I know he doesn't come across that way. He's got this sort of baby face look and so on. The guy is an absolute Marxist monster.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's like a Gavin Newsom. He reminds me of Gavin Newsom.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good looking, has a charm to him, things like that.
SPEAKER 02 :
All the while he's sticking a knife in your back.
SPEAKER 04 :
He smiles and you see the points on his teeth. I mean, that's right. That's who this guy is. Just like Joe Biden. He's not sweet little Grandpa Joe.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's a vindictive guy who says that half the country is a bunch of garbage. And so, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER 02 :
So really quick, for my behalf, since I don't know because you guys are much closer to this, what's your predictions as to what happens next in Canada?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think Pierre Polyev becomes the new prime minister. That would be a huge change. I know the sentiment in Canada right now seems to be moving toward conservatism. And it's a temporary blip. But, hey, we'll take whatever temporary blip we can. I don't know. What do you think? Do you have any thoughts on Polyev? And I actually had – by the way, if you look at how this guy's name is spelled, it looks like it should be like Poilevray or whatever. But really it's – But, Neil, any thoughts on this guy, and do you think he's got a good chance here in the upcoming elections?
SPEAKER 03 :
I was listening to a podcast he did with Jordan Peterson, and he's pretty impressive. I mean, he's very well-spoken. He also is very good-looking. I'm personally not attracted, but you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Neil, I mean, it's a whatever, I guess, isn't it?
SPEAKER 02 :
He's got that curb appeal to him is what you mean, Neil.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. I mean, he's got charisma and the whole thing, and I think it's probably a lock that he's going to be the next prime minister of Canada. But they have a very different way that they do government, and anything could happen. In fact, one of the people that's being considered potentially is somebody that was originally an ally to Trudeau, and that was Chrystia Freeland. A former finance minister was an ally of Trudeau. And it's interesting because the minute Trudeau came down to the U.S., met with Trump, and then started floating some crazy ideas about things they could do to her. Yeah, and she was out. She distanced herself from him, quit, said, I'm out. And people, I think, took that to mean that maybe she's considering herself to be a potential candidate for the future. Yeah. You know, Donald Trump made other statements that I think were basically tongue-in-cheek, you know, like Canada's going to become the 51st state, and he was referring to Trudeau as the governor of Canada. And I think, you know, some people that lived there were laughing, but others weren't. I mean, I know enough, half of my family's from Canada. My mother was Canadian. So there's an awful lot of Canadians that have a very strong sense of nationalism and And, you know, they've been dealing with all the same stuff we have, too, with open borders and high taxes and incredibly liberal policies. But none of them have ever said they want to be a part of the United States. So I don't think that's going to fly well if Donald Trump actually tried to push that issue. But either way, we're going to see some incredible things happening in the next couple of months regarding what, you know, what happens to the leadership of Canada. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, Trump is being Trump in this case. He's trolling. I don't think he actually really believes that Canada would ever vote to become part of the United States, of course. So he's doing some trolling on his way out. But no real surprise, I suppose. But I don't know. I mean, John, by the way, what do you think, John, of Trump and the way that he's handling, let's face it, he got Trudeau unannounced to fly down to Mar-a-Lago and go, but please don't do 25%. And I got to say, to Trump's credit, the people at the table, they said that Trump was being friendly, but still very directly said, yeah, I'm serious about these 25% tariffs. We have a $100 billion trade imbalance with you, and that's not right, that's not fair. And then Trudeau apparently said, uh, You can't impose these tariffs on us. This will destroy our economy. And Trump instantly shot back. Also, your economy can't survive unless you rip us off for $100 billion. By the way, good comeback. Maybe we should just become our 51st state. What a great comeback.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, no, great comeback. And again, I'm with you guys. I think Trump does a lot of posturing, and he's kind of one of those guys where he speaks really loudly. Is it really going to come down to the things that he says? Probably not, although the appearance of, hey, I'm going to go down this path is enough to typically get people to move off dead center. and get done what he wants to. I've never read The Art of the Deal. I'm guessing some of this might actually be in the book. I guess at some point I should stop and read the book just so I know kind of what he thinks along those lines. But it's part of his negotiating end of things. And I think, by the way, to his credit, it works very well. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let's talk about the Joe Biden executive action where he banned drilling, onshore and offshore drilling. This is a big topic, by the way. It really is. And he did it by attaching it to a 1963 congressionally passed law, which means that Trump isn't able to undo this for executive action, although I think Trump may try to do that and then it'll go through the courts and the Supreme Court will decide if he's able to do that or not. But it's probably going to take Congress to overdo this. What possible reason other than let me throw a monkey wrench into Donald Trump's agenda. You know something? Joe Biden's handlers who made this decision. It's not Joe Biden. He's napping. No. Joe Biden's handlers, the Democrats. You know what, Joe? Yes. Their whole thing is we don't want Trump to be successful. They don't want Trump to come in office and see gas prices start coming down. Of course not. And see people's utility bills start coming down because you know what? That's going to prove to everybody. What do you know? Our policies were wrong. Donald Trump's policies are right. So they're trying to stop Trump from bringing down the cost of energy in this country. And you know, John, who that hurts more than anybody else? The poor. Does the left care?
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right. It's sabotage, Bob, is what it is at the end of the day. They're trying to sabotage the next presidency. And to your point, this doesn't hurt the wealthy. It doesn't hurt the person that can afford $4 a gallon gasoline. By the way, it doesn't even affect most small business owners because they pass those costs on to their customers. Who this really affects at the end of the day is the person struggling to make ends meet. Absolutely. Which, by the way, all we hear from the left is that's the crowd they care about. Nothing could be farther from the truth, like I've always said.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I hope that the American people come to see it as that, because that's exactly what it is. There's a bit of retribution added in here as well. I think this is sour grapes. It's flip over the chessboard and walk out of the room, take your toys and go home kind of thing. I think Joe Biden is angry about how things have transpired, and And there's absolutely no sense in what he's doing. By the way, aren't we like the largest producer of oil and gas on the planet anyway? I mean, we're not far away from what would be considered total energy independence. So it isn't like we're going to go out and just start drilling everywhere. By the way, apparently there's a group of people, even conservatives, that are out of Florida pretty much. that don't want oil wells off their beaches in Florida. I get that. But the point is, it's not really great business to go start drilling for additional oil if there's nobody to sell it to. In other words, if we're manufacturing enough to sell to other people and we're profitable, then let's not make it unprofitable. So there's maybe some of those economic things that also weigh into this. But the bottom line is, he's just trying to throw a monkey wrench into the Trump agenda in general. And you're both 100 percent right that the people that are going to suffer in this are the poor and the ones who need help the most. So remember that, ladies and gentlemen, because this is what your Democrat Party is doing for you right now. They have no concern for you. They only have concern for potentially getting elected in the future by trying to stand in the way of the Trump agenda.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, John, what really makes my eye twitch is there's an estimated $50 trillion in natural resources that's on our property. Yep. $50 trillion. And we're not going to tap into it. If you ask people, hey, where's all the oil and gas in the world? People, oh, let's see, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela. We have more, actually. Did you know the United States has more than any nation in the world? That's right. And we're just letting it gather dust because we're kowtowing to AOC and the Green New Deal people?
SPEAKER 02 :
It shows you how, in my opinion, the Lord blessed this continent and why I think our nation built on Judeo-Christian principles 250 years ago. Reality is we're a very rich country in regards to our natural resources, and yet Bob and Neil— we're not tapping into those. One of the things I've always said, you want to pay off the national debt, sell natural resources. It's one of the, I mean, number one, balance of budget, stop spending. But number two, if you really want to get the debt down, start selling off some of our natural resources. We have plenty there, but yet we don't tap into them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Will Trump be able to turn this around with the help of Congress?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and keep in mind, too, guys, there's lots of – I read a lot about this over the last few days. There's a lot of talk even on what Joe Biden is doing that it's a lot of posturing and positioning and messaging and so on, and I still think it's trying to sabotage the next administration. But in a lot of these areas that he's actually going to put the ban on, it's not cost-effective at this point to even explore – those areas because we have so many other areas, Bob, back to your point of where we already know there's oil there that we can actually go and tap into that at the end of the day, does this really affect the price of oil? The message does, but the actual physical part of it, probably not.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. Let's in our last few minutes, let's talk about January 6th. OK, no real surprise that the media hyper focused on the four year anniversary of January 6th. And, you know, Democrats and liberals in general, they are masters at this of taking something and. And exaggerating it beyond what it actually truly is. Nobody's saying we should take January 6th from four years ago and minimize it to the level of a speeding ticket. No. But you can't maximize it to the level of a date that will live in infamy. You know, you had Sonny Hostin on The View earlier this week. actually comparing january 6th to world war ii the holocaust and slavery so the gassing of six million jews is analogous to a couple of hundred john knuckleheads okay climbing the walls pushing their way past police that didn't kill a single person didn't shoot a single person didn't point a gun at a single person didn't set a single fire they were wrong nobody's defending them okay but But my goodness, to compare that to the Holocaust, for Joe Biden and the Democrats to be saying that this is the biggest threat on our democracy since the Civil War. Really? So bigger than 9-11, bigger than Pearl Harbor, bigger than the Nazis, bigger than World War II, World War I, bigger than the wars, bigger than the war on terror, bigger than all of that is January 6th when the Black Lives Matter riots were... 50 times more violent and actually really were deadly riots. So to me, John, it just it drives me crazy how the left does this. And I'm going to make a prediction, John. I'd love to get your take on this. I predict that the next time Democrats are in control of Congress and the White House, next time they run the table. I predict that, number one, we will have a new national holiday that will be a National Day of Remembrance of January 6th. And number two, they'll spend millions and millions and millions of taxpayer dollars to create a Washington, D.C. memorial for January 6th, right up there with the World War II memorial and everything else. I think that's what they're going to do because they take the one opportunity where conservatives behaved badly, and let's exploit the daylights out of that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and again, we've talked about this many, many times. I don't spend a lot of time on my show on it because, frankly, like you say, Bob, I look at it as individuals that did some things on the day that things were very heightened, and I get all of that. If I had been there that day, would I have entered the Capitol? No. I can tell you guys with a resounding no. That would not have been me, period. Now, some might criticize me saying, well, you know, you're just weak, John. And, you know, you don't want to stand up for your values and so on. It's like, yeah, no, there's a lot more to it than that. And I want to think reasonably about things. And in that particular situation, no, I would not have entered. Now, some did not criticizing those that did. I think it was a bad decision. On their part, I think they could have thought that out better. And the biggest reason I say that is because, Bob, of all the things that you just said, all that day he did. I can remember my brother and I, it was his birthday on the 6th. He passed a couple of years ago. But on that particular day, we were talking about those things. And the reality is both of us said, this looks really bad for us. So if nothing else, Bob, I wouldn't have done it just because of the black eye it gives us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Well, and, you know, Neil, actually, we've got to put into perspective, too. You had about 200 to 300 people that were actually pushing their way past police and climbing the walls. Nobody's defended them. But the other thousand or so people that went in the Capitol weren't part of that crowd, didn't lay a finger on anybody. They thought they were allowed to go in the Capitol. The police had moved the barricades, opened the doors, and people were moseying on in, taking pictures. Just touring. Even talking to police as the surveillance camera shows. So a lot of those people and when you had cops say to them, oh, you need to leave. Oh, OK, sure. And then they turn around and left. They were swept up in the same Department of Justice dragnet of the Biden administration and thrown in jail for that. So those people definitely have to be treated differently than everybody else. But again. You know, Neil, even the ones that that did push their way past police as wrong as they were, did they deserve to go to jail? Yes. Do they deserve 18, 20, 22 year prison terms when the average drug dealer gets two and a half years? I would argue, you know, the average rapist gets seven years in America. You don't deserve three times what a rapist gets for doing that. So I think Trump ought to pardon all of them. And I think I ought to commute the sentences of anybody that's in prison right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I got something to say about all this, but just a question. Do you mean pardon everybody? Everyone across the board? No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm sorry. I would say anyone who assaulted a police officer, anyone who did that or engaged in actual violence or whatever, no, don't pardon them. But I think 100% of them should have their sentences commuted because if your average – drug dealer gets 2.4 years in prison, then I think they've spent enough time in prison. So commute 100% of the sentences of the people that are still in prison, and everybody else that didn't lay a hand on anybody, pardon them. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thank you. And I would be in agreement on that. But here's the thing. This is just the way it is. I'm picturing a day in my lifetime when a pastor who was at odds with the head of the deacon board threw the deacon out during the church service. and it was ugly and people were yelling and whatever and i remember that day it lives in infamy in my brain about how churches probably should not function and you know none of us who are true americans even patriots should should be proud of the way things went down on january 6th but bob i would be sick to my stomach If the cost of that long term was that we had some kind of national day of remembrance over all of this, because it was wrong, it shouldn't have happened, and it was ugly. But, you know, why aren't we having national day of remembrances for the cities that burned during the BLM riots, right? Like, where are you going to go with this kind of thing? And the dozens killed. Oh, exactly. And how ideologically driven would would that be in light of, you know, the fact that they're going after this because it was a conservative based kind of response to how people were feeling about what they believed was, you know, a false election. And they were, you know, in disagreement about all that. So. Anyway, but that's why it's, in many people's minds, no one's ever going to be able to forget because it never happened before. Nobody ever saw that happen. And I think that the Democrats, well, God bless them. I'm glad that there was a peaceful or seemingly a peaceful transfer of power. He's not been inaugurated yet, but they're really making a big deal to say, see, look how good we are when we transfer power. Well, okay, that is the way it's supposed to be. And I think Republicans, to a large degree, regret what happened that day. But, yeah. going overboard to make a national holiday out of it or something. Forget about it. That's a joke.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Conservatives riot. That's like, you know, man bites dog. OK, you're not used to seeing something like that. Liberals riot. It's just another Tuesday in America. So, yeah, I'll tell you what, folks, we ask you and we thank you for not only supporting this podcast. and all your five-star reviews and everything else. But we appreciate you supporting our sponsors as well, like Preborn. And if you haven't given to Preborn yet, why not kick off 2025 by saving some babies' lives? Remember, Preborn shows ultrasound images in pro-life centers all across the country. Problem is, we don't have enough ultrasound images being shown. And so there's a lot of babies' lives that can be saved if we will just show more ultrasound images to these moms. And that's what causes them to choose life more than anything else. So we're asking you to pay for as many of these as you can. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, save one baby's life. So pray about a number of babies' lives you'll save. Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, hey, that's your forever legacy, the amount of abortions that you stopped. Would you consider doing that right now? You know, 100% of what you give to pre-born goes to ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. And hey, if you can afford to buy an ultrasound machine, they're 15 grand, what a nice tax write-off for you. How would you like your forever legacy to be, I stopped thousands and thousands of abortions year after year? Whether it's that or $28 times a certain number, we're just asking you to give right now. So you can do this online. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Or you can give over the phone. They answer the phones 24-7, 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. And we appreciate you supporting our sponsors, especially, you know, not just Preborn, but SunPowerLED and... I'll tell you what, Neil, that photobiomodulation, it really does work. I know it's worked on me and you and many people.
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Absolutely. Well, I'll tell you what, we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We appreciate you supporting this podcast. And your five-star reviews will take as many as you're willing to give us wherever you listen to your podcasts. And Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of New York. Detroit. We're winding down the end of this real quick and just a quick yes or no. John, what do you say? Should Trump commute the sentences of everybody that's in prison from January 6th and then pardon everybody else who didn't lay a hand on everybody?
SPEAKER 02 :
With the guidelines you said earlier, yes. I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I agree. Yeah. All right. Well, you know what? I hope so too. And we'll see. It is a new day in America and we got the inauguration coming up on the 20th. Anyway, So Neil, John, always great catching up with you guys. Look forward to next week. And everybody, we appreciate you listening to us. Thanks so much. God bless. We'll see you guys.
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Join professional money manager Bill Gunderson as he explores the impacts of rising interest rates, the volatile bond market, and the dominance of large-cap stocks. Get expert analysis on the construction sector, employment trends, and the role of earnings growth in market corrections.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager, Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome to the Wednesday. It is the Wednesday, the chilly edition, the January the 8th edition of the Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson, president of Gunnarsson Capital Management. The market was a lot chillier before the open and the futures. They were down quite a bit, but we do have a split decision right now with the Dow down 106 and the NASDAQ up 14 points right now. after a 350-point down day in the NASDAQ yesterday. The S&P 500 is basically flat right now, while the Russell 2000 down 1.4%. The small caps just can't get out of their own way. You know, every time there seems like they're going to rally, they fall right back again, and they're just being dominated. and continuing to be dominated by the large cap stocks. Meanwhile, the bond market is the real issue right now. The 10-year was over 3.7 today. Last time I looked, it was at 3.71. Let's see where it is right now. Or 4.71. I mean 4.71. It's at 4.7. Okay, now here's the thing. That is resistance, okay? It got to 4.7, no, nine months ago, and that's as high as it went, and it started backing off. We need it to start backing off right now. And over at the Bitcoin markets in the pits, the Bitcoin pits down 3,550 to 95,798. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show. With professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And we have Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. our certified financial planner. And Barry, what is it? You're very close to getting another designation added to your business card.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, if I don't butcher it, CMT is the easy way to say it. Chartered Market Technician, essentially. You take the CFA, which is very much fundamental analysis, right? The old... uh, Warren Buffett, uh, Ben Graham approach. And then of course the other side is technical analysis, which is what, which is what the, uh, CMT, you know, focuses on. And if you look at the curriculum and the CFA, you know, they may talk about technical analysis, maybe 2% of the whole, you know, three levels. Uh, and this one, uh, just finished up a level two. So, uh, be, be hopefully taken level three and, and I think it's in June, uh, But, yeah, it's just the CFA side of technical analysis, as we do and you do. The reason you and I got together years ago is because of the fact that I was a believer in blending both of those. And, of course, that's been your philosophy for a long time and the impetus for the app.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Now, when you get three designations, do I have to salute you when I see you or bow down or anything?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm a junior already, too, so that even messes it. That already kind of throws it out. Maybe I just need two business cards, maybe.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know how much font size. They'll take the whole first five minutes of the show to introduce you.
SPEAKER 06 :
It needs more vowels, though, if we're going to play Scrabble. I can only do something with just the A. Anyways, we had a huge sell-off in the NASDAQ yesterday.
SPEAKER 05 :
Kind of weird, really. I mean, CES opened on Monday. Jensen Wang, he gives the keynote speech. He is now the market mover in the market.
SPEAKER 02 :
He is the keynote.
SPEAKER 05 :
Him and Elon Musk are the guys that can do it, and the Fed, those three. And Jensen Wang's keynote speech just didn't really go over very well. I don't know. It could have been more interest rates. And that interest rate picture is very important. You know what? I can't tell you how, because that impacts the multiple, the P-E ratio of the market, of how much people are willing to pay for earnings and sales and book value and cash value of a stock. Despite the Fed's best efforts in driving rates down, rates have actually gone up. I'm hoping, and I put out that chart this morning of the chart of interest rates, and you can see clearly that 4.7 is the top resistance. Now, if we charge through that and go to 5, that's possible, but that's what's really got the market nervous right now, especially the higher PE stocks and the longer duration stocks. Now, if we can stop here at 4.7 and start heading back down towards the low 4s, that would be good. That would be favorable for the market. That's what I'm hoping for, but I have no control over that. We'll just have to see. how it goes. Big Tech got hit hard yesterday. I know Kathy Wood was selling Palantir, so Palantir took a hit. Oil's up to $74 a barrel. That's another, you know, that's an inflationary measure. And that could say, you know, the Fed, I just don't see any interest rate cuts in the future unless, you know, Trump comes in and really puts the pressure on the guy. to lower rates. Trump obviously thinks rates are too high. Of course, any builder, any construction guy is always going to say rates are too high. If they're 1%, they're too high.
SPEAKER 06 :
You want a cheaper cost of capital.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. And you know, I'd had something to say about this. My father was a pretty wise guy, wise man. You know, he didn't have any designations or any degrees, but he had a lot of life experience in the real business world. And he used to say, you know, the business we were in, we did a lot of business with the home builders. And he used to say, as the construction industry goes, so goes the economy. And, you know, I'm kind of, I remember that. I remember when the whole savings and loan crisis happened. And it happened first with the construction sector, the building sector slowing down. We're seeing that right now for sure. Mortgage applications are diving. New homes, the new home construction is not increasing because of these interest rates. and rates on a loan, and then that trickles down. I mean, the guys that frame the homes, the construction workers themselves, the construction workers spend at the restaurants, at the malls, on Amazon, etc., they travel. spend money, and he always used to say, as the construction sector goes, so goes the market, or the economy. So we'll see if old Marv Gunderson was right, the late Marv Gunderson, and if this slowdown in the construction, building, mortgage application, home building sector eventually leads to a downturn in the economy. Now, the Fed doesn't want that to happen. That's why they're cutting rates. But at the same time, this stuff is cyclical, and there's not a lot you can do to change those cycles.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and the longer you're above the quote-unquote inrestrictive, as the Fed always talks about restrictive monetary policy or easy monetary policy, the longer you stay in that restrictive realm, The slower business and particularly things that you need to use debt for, particularly investment, construction, whether it's cars or durable goods, big purchases. The longer you're in that restrictive territory, the more headwinds, right, that continue to build. And over time, right, it's going to... Trickles down. Right. Slow down and slow down even more.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the construction sector, I mean, is a big part of our economy. I mean, I don't care if it's road building, building cranes downtown, putting up new buildings, home builders, apartment builders. Road improvements. It's all very important to our economy. Okay, now we're going to watch the employment very closely due to this, obviously. Private employment came in less than expected, but $122,000. We'll get the real jobs number on Friday. the non-farm payroll so you could say well that's that's a little bit of a downward move in employment but at the same time the weekly initial jobless claims which come out a day early this week because of tomorrow being a one-time holiday i don't know if they'll make it a full-time every year holiday i doubt that but Who knows? Initial jobless claims decline, which is good.
SPEAKER 1 :
201,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
Pretty low. It's interesting. You've got a mixed bag because you've got, of course, weekly jobless claims were much less than expected. And, of course, on the flip, which is good for employment, not as great for interest rates. But on the other side, with ADP, with that coming in less than expected in terms of job gains, That's, you know, kind of certainly should help interest rates get down. So it's a bit of a mixed bag, and it'll be interesting to see what that non-farm payrolls number is on Friday.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. And, you know, I mean, at the same time, you know, you've got a very pro-growth president administration coming in in 12 days. And we're already getting some pretty big commitments from foreign countries. I got that commitment yesterday on the guy from the United Arab Emirates to build all those data centers in Texas. And Georgia's also getting a lot of data centers. That's construction, baby. They take a lot of workers. And power. And nuclear power, maybe. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, it seems like any kind of rally, which we had early in the day yesterday and had a little one this morning, seemed to be met with selling. And now the Dow is down 183, and the NASDAQ, which was up a little bit, is now down 89 points. And we're going to get to the quantum sector here in a moment, which kind of received a knife in the heart, it seems like, from Jensen Wang. Mortgage applications down as rates soar. which is just an add-on to what we were just talking about, you've got the 30-year up around 7% right now. So, I mean, if you're in the mortgage business, that is just horrible. news, and it's been horrible. And it's been there for a long time.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, how long have we been? Look at that chart. How long have we been at around that 7% mark? I mean, you talk about being at that price for that long, right? I mean, folks who are waiting to buy a house or just the amount of house that someone can qualify for is diminished. I mean, when you're there over that long term, that's that – Long-term slowing and new home builders can only provide that gap, right, because they were doing some fancy incentive. Right, and they can only do that for so long, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
So that's tough. You know, it's especially tough on young people that want to buy a home. They missed out on that. Well, we need more houses. Yeah, and we need more houses.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
But you look at that, many of them got in at 3%. Those days are long gone. Now you're at 7%. That makes a huge difference in those monthly payments. Well, Trump is considering declaring an economic emergency to bolster the tariff program. He's basically going to make tariffs a core of his trade policy. He's even going to use it maybe to get Greenland, right? He's after Greenland. He wants to buy Greenland. You know, I couldn't figure that out.
SPEAKER 06 :
I feel like we're playing Risk. I feel like we're playing Risk. Remember Game of Risk and Greenland was its own little thing over there?
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Yeah, Greenland's a big mass. Okay, now I figured it out why. Apparently Greenland has a lot of rare earth minerals up there underneath whatever the snow. I thought maybe he wanted to build a golf course in another Miralago, Greenland. acres or something but no it's has something to do with strategically where it's located and also the minerals that it has rare earth so anyways uh he's going to declare possibly a national economic emergency which would authorize him to manage imports imports coming in from other countries during the emergency now he does a lot of job boning just to position himself in the negotiations. You know, if you're really worried about tariffs coming down on you, you're going to start to be more cooperative on your end of the deal. art of the deal yes now the other thing i see beside rising interest rate oil 74 a barrel uh you know the oil stocks uh look pretty good some of them uh we added to one of our positions yesterday in that space uh we had a position that we i liked it i i initially ate it uh They buy in the incubator portfolio. Then I bought it in the emerging growth portfolio. Now I've added it to the ultra-growth portfolio, one of the great stocks of the last decade. Don't give the name out. That's a good one, man. That's special. And I had a hard time getting a position. I had to work with the Schwab trader most of the day. to get a position in that thing. It trades a little bit on the thin side, but as far as I know, it's in the S&P 500 now, and that should help it. So anyways, oil has been rising $74 a barrel. We haven't seen that in quite some time. That's going to start showing up in the inflation numbers. And natural gas has also moved up with this cold wave that's sweeping across America right now. Danish stocks mixed. It is Denmark that has, but Greenland is autonomous. I mean, they could make their own decision. But Denmark does have the rights, a territory. It's a territory. Greenland is a territory of Denmark. Besides threatening tariffs on Denmark, Trump also questioned Denmark's legal authority over Greenland. People really don't know if Denmark has any legal right to it, but if they do, they should give it up because we need it for national security. Strong arm in Denmark. Well, you've got some important companies in Denmark, including Novo Nordisk and isn't ASM Lithography. And, you know, one of the... Or ASMO.
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Isn't that Dutch? Is that Netherlands? I can't remember which one.
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They're close to each other geographically.
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Yeah, geographically they're close.
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Denmark and... Yeah, Denmark has a couple big companies. So now... It's Norway with Equinor, right? Yes, Norway. And, you know, look, there's something going on with this Greenland deal. I like to listen once in a while to Charlie Kirk when I get a chance. And he couldn't do his show yesterday. I'm on the same station with Charlie Kirk on a lot of these Salem stations. Charlie couldn't do his show yesterday because he was in Greenland. What in the world is going on? Now I read that Trump's son, Don Jr., is in Nuuk, N-U-U-K, Greenland. Bring your mukluks, and who knows where this all ends up. Okay. And some, what's the fish, like the marinated fish?
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Yeah, marinated fish or something, yeah.
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So here's my question. Did Jensen Wang put a knife in the heart of the quantum computing sector? Computing stocks slump after NVIDIA's CEO sees use many years away. Do you know how many years away he said it is? 20. He says most of us in the industry believe that we're out there on the horizon. On the long end, 30 years maybe. On the short end, maybe 10 years. So that is just absolutely sinking. He believes that very useful quantum computers are over a decade away. which you know what i mean that really honestly may have put a knife in the heart of righetti and arc at quantum and d wave quantum and ion q and cube ubt and qbts and the quantum etf d wave i don't know if these stocks are going to bounce but man they're down thirty to forty percent uh... here today and it was uh... a very exciting sector you know And quantum computing was up over 1,880%. Over the last year, Regetti was up 1,500%. And along comes Jensen Wang and Bang, a knife in the heart, saying that these things are way out there. I said it yesterday.
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And that's that long-duration. And you've said it since they started taking off. And it's the epitome of long-duration stock and long-duration play. And interest rates, right, are going to have the biggest effect on that. And I think what we've seen lately is interest rates are having a big effect on the valuations that you've mentioned.
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Yes. So, anyways, if you're wondering why these stocks are getting taken to the woodshed big time today, it's because of, thanks, Jensen Wayne. He must have a short position in them. But, you know, he's probably speaking truth. I trust the guy will be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show.
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Well, there's a lot of deal making, I guess, taking place at CES. AMD has made an investment in a little stock that's making a move today. The name of the stock, A-B-S-I. A-B-S-I is up 7.5% now. They're in the AI drug business, trying to create drugs using AI power. So that one, $20 million investment, AMD, in a biotech.
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It's interesting because NVIDIA has been doing that, so that's kind of interesting. They're finally kind of getting in the mix with some of these announcements too.
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Now, I think there's a lot at CES about the robo-taxi and the autonomous driving, which is a breakthrough that hasn't happened. Now, I don't see that out there 20 years on the horizon, like Wang says quantum computers are. But Pony is one that has been in the news here recently. Pony AI expects big breakthrough with autonomous driving in Hong Kong. which is to provide driverless transportation at the Hong Kong International Airport, which is one of the world's busiest airports.
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And it's one of the most, I mean, in terms of population density, right? It's a pretty dense populated area, so it'll be interesting to see how these things work. I was listening to somebody this morning, and they were talking about uh he was talking about his daughters and he was he said uh you know he's he was he said he was hoping that uh he said he's hoping that his young daughters never have to drive so well yeah maybe i don't know about that from a safety standpoint i mean as long as it works right that's the you know that's the key we all gotta we will have to be confident in it um you know there's certainly some privacy concerns in terms of tracking where folks are going um We saw that with the Cybertruck and the incident in Las Vegas in front of Trump Tower. But, you know, it should, I mean, overall, right, I mean, one of the biggest risks that we all take every day is hopping in our car and driving somewhere. Yeah.
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You know, you'd think you'd be safer in a driverless car. You would think. But, you know, as I sat in the back of an Uber going from LaGuardia to Times Square, I thought, how would a driverless car, or maybe things would have been more orderly. I don't know. But you've got to remember you're mixing driverless cars with driver cars. And those taxi cab drivers, they'll go through a space. You're thinking, I don't know that he can get through that. I don't know. God, we got through it. You know, it's just, wow, that's crazy. And people are making turns and pedestrians are taking advantage of the stop traffic to dart through it. It's just all nuts. Lots of jaywalking.
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Yeah, lots of jaywalking in New York City used to be fined for that and get a ticket. Not anymore. They don't do that anymore.
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The Uber driver was very unhappy about that. He said, you know, this didn't used to go on, but they loosened the laws on jaywalking because they found out that it was mostly the black population that was paying up the fines. And they felt like it was a racist policy to discourage and ticket jaywalkers. And that's what you got in New York City. Chart Industries is one to keep an eye on. Chart Industries announces a goods and service agreement with Exxon Mobil. You know, the thing I like about Chart Industries, which we do own, G-T-L-S, Chart is like a shovels and picks and shovels type company to not only liquid natural gas, but also to the nuclear industry. So, you know, as those things, and look at charts. If you look at chart industries, their earnings growth, 26% a year. They're looking for 56% this year and 35% next year. That's some really phenomenal growth there on chart industries. And I've seen a lot of other people out there that I respect talking up. chart industries the symbol is g t l s and uh it is a 8.5 billion dollar company so it's a small cap out of georgia i've never heard of this city ball ground georgia
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I haven't looked that up. We'll have to ask Jennifer that one. We've been through there a good bit, but never ran across that one.
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Okay, now let's see. I saw that NFL football, there's been a trend this year of favorites winning. Favorites, okay, that's not good for the gambling industry. And Flutter actually lowered their expectations today. Because of this, they're not on the winning side as many of the bets as they usually are, and they lowered their expectations, but I do see that the stock is up 1.4% after that announcement. It's affecting both Flutter and DraftKings. You know, of all the things I've ever, you know, I used to get in the football pools, and I used to win the football pools all the time when my mother at work. I bet you were a beast in those.
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Yeah, I was 17, 16 years old.
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And my mother worked for a big insurance company, and they had a pretty sizable football pool every week. It was NFL and college, and I used to win that thing about every third week or so. I made a little living off of that thing as a 16-, 17-year-old. And hitting the pick six, the 5'10", at Caliany Racetrack in Tijuana when I was 18 years old.
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They thought your mom was just a football guru. Yeah.
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She thought it was her. They thought she was the one picking Auburn over Kentucky. But anyways, you know, I would say of all the things that I ever tried, I would say NFL is the most unpredictable beast of all. Oh, yeah. It's just unpredictable, you know, on any given weekend, as the saying goes. But I guess this year it's run more to form. There seems to be some real bad teams out there, you know, like the The Patriots and the Browns that you could just count on losing.
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You've got a couple of playoff games this weekend. I think Baltimore is like a 10-point favorite. Another team, I forget who it is, like a 9.5-point favorite. So you've got still some big spreads this week.
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So the casinos are getting hurt. Do you feel sorry for them? No, not really. The DraftKings and the Flutter and the Caesars Palace. There's always next season for them. Yeah, they'll be all right. Okay, now here's another one that's jumping today, VIR, which is a biotech. We're going to call this the stock of the day. We had one yesterday with pancreatic cancer. Today, Veer Biotech up 64% after phase one data for Sanofi partnered cancer drug technology. You know, I love to see them making progress on cancer. I mean, that's really the one.
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Yeah, I like when you highlight these. What you had yesterday was pancreatic cancer. There was one where they were making some progress there, and that stock was getting a boom.
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Yes, and, you know, I just have to give a shout-out to a friend of mine out in the San Diego area. He used to come to my workshops a lot. He was retired, and he was a software programmer. And he actually wrote all the macros that I use in taking my data from my database in the app and putting it into a spreadsheet today. I talked to him last week. I've known him for 20 years. I said, Will, your macros still work. I use them every single day. And the poor guy, he has lung cancer. And he's had a portfolio with us for quite some time. I manage it for free because of all the work he did for us and everything. He made a couple trips up with me to see Douglas up in the Bay Area to help develop. And, you know, he was put into hospice yesterday. And that's a call, you know, to talk to somebody. He says, Bill, I'm going into hospice. It's like, you know, this is probably we won't talk again. That's really a sad thing. Anyways, just a shout-out to my friend out there in Carlsbad, Will, who entered into hospice yesterday. Really a great guy from San Diego State, San Diego State University, retired computer programmer. Okay, the last thing I want to mention here, Trump did a tirade against the wind, wind energy. He lashed out against windmills. I don't know what he's got against windmills. But, you know, I would hate to see them out there, you know, off of New York where the lobster, the Boston fishermen. They're deteriorating. Lobster. Yeah, I mean. I don't think that it's a very effective way of getting the juice that we need. When we come back, we're going to look inside the market. You've got a big sell-off in Bitcoin as we've got a little bit of risk off in the market right now going on. Are we headed into a correction? Well, it looks that way, but you'd have to bust a couple of levels in the indexes. We'll talk about that, too, in the last segment of the show. And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, we are now in earnings season. And we've actually had a few come in. But next Thursday and Friday, we're going to get some of the big banks reporting. Then we're officially in earnings season. I was quite surprised. Now, this is on the positive side of things right now. Then we'll give the negative side of things. Let's do the negative. Let's get the negative out of the way first. The interest rates are what are hurting us right now. It's the bond market. It's interest rates at 4.70. If they stop here and start easing up, then we may not go into a correction. But there's definitely some technical numbers here, Barry. with your technical analysis. If we break below, there's a number out there. I've got it written down here.
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I like how you highlight those. I like how you mentioned in your note this morning in terms of you're putting those numbers on the chart.
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And so we already are in a bit of a correction. I mean, the Dow is down about 4 or 5%, I would say, from its high. An all-time high. Yes, but it could easily go down another 4 or 5% if it breaks the number here that I'm watching very closely. You have had a trend reversal. The uptrend in the Dow, the line that I had drawn that began last July, it went on a nice run until early this year. Let's see, that run ended in about mid-December. And then it actually broke that uptrend, okay? And so you're in a secondary downtrend within a primary uptrend. you're in a very small correction right now. But there's a couple numbers that if it breaks below those, then you might have to take a little more defensive action. just to ease the shock absorbers because you could have some more downside risk. I kind of laid the groundwork for a pullback in my first article of the year on the current valuation of the NASDAQ. It's quite high, extremely high. It's gone a long ways over the last two years. And then you add that into the rising interest rates, which are going to make that multiple look even higher yet. And that is kind of the concoction, the combination of events that bring about a sell-off and a correction in the market.
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Then we're going to get the Fed minutes at 2 o'clock this afternoon, which could introduce, you know, a little bit of potential rate volatility simply because, you know, it was kind of an interesting meeting where it was kind of that, I remember Powell's speech kind of tanked the market and you had essentially, you know, they did one more cut and they kind of, you know, kind of signal that they're going to pause for January. It should be interesting to see kind of some of the discussions, some of the vote, you know, around what was, you know, what was happening behind the scenes there.
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Well, now that's the short-term news, okay? The longer-term news, however, I couldn't believe it when I saw that, uh, There's already some estimates out there for 20, what is this, 2025? 2025, yeah. We have solid estimates for this year. We have pretty good estimates. And there's now even an annual EPS estimate out there for the S&P 500 for 2027, okay? And if you look at the chart of earnings, 2009, you're down around $60 per share in S&P 500 earnings. If things go the way the analysts think, we could be hitting almost $350. Remember, this year is about $250. $250 is where we're going to be. 2024, which we don't have in yet, we're going to end the year at about $247. That's where 2024 is going to be. This year, we're looking for somewhere in the $270. Then it goes up to $310. Then it goes up to $340. So long term, things still look very, very optimistic, and you have a very pro-business administration coming in. But in the short term, there's going to be some major bumps in the road, some pullbacks. And, of course, you know, something could happen to break this earnings trend. But right now, the earnings trend is what the market is trading on. And if you're looking out over this year, next year, to earnings, I'm seeing a lot of 7,000 estimates on the S&P 500 based on these solid earnings estimates. expectations seven thousand i would say that the average for this year is somewhere in the sixties yeah maybe almost seven thousand For this year or so, we're at 5,900 right now. But in the meantime, we could be looking at a correction here because we need a correction. We need some buying in the bond market. The bond market chart, I use AGG. It is up a little bit today, but it needs to halt this downtrend that it's been in. The bond market is down about 7-8% since last September as interest rates are now pushing 4.70. which is the high for the last 12 months. And let's hope that it's now hit that high. Let's get that over with, and let's start backing down from that high. So you're kind of in between. You're kind of in flux right now with the high rising rates colliding with a high P.E. multiple, but the earnings picture looking very, very favorable. over the next couple of years so there you go take all that into account how do i get through times like this and manage it one stock at a time one stock at a time one day at a time and you just can't make big blanket calls on the market I do a lot of little individual and small decisions on a daily basis, but they're definitely very much influenced by what I see in the macro picture of the market. Okay, if you want to try to take the worry off your shoulders and just hand it off and let us worry about it, we run a daycare center for distressed stocks here. Give us a call. Set up an appointment at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Put together a financial plan. And put not only, you know, valuations to work for you, but also the momentum and the technical analysis side of things, which obviously is very, very time consuming. And if you just want to see how it all works and comes together, you can get four free weeks of the live buying, investing, slash trading subscription and my commentary on the market on it several times throughout the day. Go to GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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We're on the forefront on that right here in colorado and what we're seeing is the results of that is our economic growth has dropped to 41st in the nation and that is under this colorado governor we'll see the world health organization land use codes zoning regulations force fees conservation easements national monument designations etc and we'll be talking about these conservation easements and monument designations in both the first and second hour. So you will not want to miss that. Remember, if something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to use force to implement it. It is Wednesday. What that means is it is Wings Day at Hooters restaurants. You buy 20 wings. You get an additional 10 for free. I particularly like the lemon pepper rub and the Texas barbecue rub. The girls are coming over tonight, so we will be partaking in that special. There are five locations for Hooters restaurants. That's Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. 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And she had two early novels that were initially unsuccessful and two Broadway plays, but she became very famous with the 1943 novel The Fountainhead and then in 1957, atlas shrugged she said this the essential characteristic of socialism is the denial of individual property rights so any piece of legislation or any Ordinance or regulation or rule that denies property rights is moving us towards socialism, and that is happening quite a bit here in this state. So again, the essential characteristic of socialism is the denial of individual property rights. And that is why the work that the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is doing. And today the Colorado legislature convenes. So fasten your seatbelt on your rights and your property rights. But the Colorado Union of Taxpayers has been watching out for you since 1976. We've got much work to do. But the first thing is, is to be informed, to understand what is going on, to have that tool in your toolbox. And so sign up, become a member. 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This day in history, 1790, the president, first U.S. president, George Washington, delivers his first State of the Union address. 1815, the Battle of New Orleans during the War of 1812. uh was uh fought the war had ended on 24 december of 1814 but none of the combatants knew that and in fact colonel bill rutledge will be joining us in this a second segment of this first hour to talk about greenland but we had rebroadcast an interview on america's veterans stories this last sunday that we had done regarding the battle of new orleans And that will be rebroadcast this Sunday night, 10 to 11 in the evening. And in 1835, the U.S. national debt is zero for the first and only time in history, and that was under the presidency of Andrew Jackson. And in 1853, the first U.S. bronze equestrian statue, which was of Andrew Jackson, is unveiled in Washington, D.C., 1902, I thought this was super interesting. Back then, this was just if you looked at a woman a certain way, and that was when men knew they were men and women knew they were women. But in 1902, New York State Assemblyman Francis G. Landon gets a bill passed to criminalize men turning around on a street and looking at a woman in that way.
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In 1908, the first subway tunnel connecting Manhattan with Brooklyn under the East River opens in New York City. In 1940, Britain's first World War II rationing includes rationing butter, sugar, and bacon. This I thought was interesting from a basketball standpoint. 1945, University of Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball team sets an NCAA record by holding Arkansas State to six points. That game was 75-6. And 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson, a blizzard buries the U.S., causing at least 50 deaths. And that was in, let's see. Oh, I got these things mixed up. And President, hold on just a second here. 1964, President Johnson declares the war on poverty. And then in 1996, a blizzard buries the eastern U.S., causing at least 50 deaths. Let's see. I think that's it on that. I wanted to get through just a few headlines. First of all, Mark Zuckerberg said that Meta, which was formerly Facebook, is going to end fact-checking program on Facebook and Instagram, which that was really censorship. And so I guess he's admitting that they were censoring Americans during that time. Very, very Very serious. It's good that they're not going to do that or supposedly not going to do that anymore. Number two headline is these fires in Los Angeles and these photos of these abandoned vehicles. It looks a lot like this whole thing in Maui. This is pretty scary. So stay tuned on that. Just very tragic. Number three, the Massachusetts governor has changed her tune after vowing to fight Trump's deportation efforts for illegal immigrants and now hopes that he fixes the border. And number four, again, all these marbles that Biden is trying to put in front of Trump and the American people, says Biden administration officials banned many new natural gas water heaters on December 26th in a regulatory push weeks before. Joe Biden leaves office, the new regulations on non-condensing gas water heaters would save a significant amount of energy and yield significant environmental benefits. He says, including decreasing carbon dioxide emissions. And as we know from the documentary, A Climate Conversation, that carbon dioxide is actually plant food. So again, Biden is trying to make it more difficult for Americans and for Donald Trump. And it is so important that we have these discussions, and we have them because of our sponsors. For everything regarding your insurance, reach out to the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. Set up that complimentary appointment. Make sure you have the insurance coverage that you need and that you might be able to save some money. So give them a call at 303-795-8855. Again, 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan Team is there.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And we have on the line with us Colonel Bill Rutledge, 96 years young, has traveled the world, has this deep interest in people and curiosity about things. And he's been sharing just a wealth of knowledge on so many different issues. And interestingly enough, he had been stationed in Greenland when he was in the Air Force. And now Greenland is in the news because Donald Trump is suggesting that Greenland become part of the United States or a territory. And so Colonel Rutledge and I were talking about it. I said, we should talk about this tomorrow on the show. So Colonel Rutledge, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
And this is super interesting, and you have such an interesting perspective on Greenland. So where do you want to start with this?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I think we should start by referring to recent comments by the president. He had mentioned earlier in the last week about our needs for better control and access through the Panama Canal. And then he also talked about the possibility of acquiring Greenland, maybe buying it directly from Denmark, which has been the supposed owner of it for the last 200 years. It's really been like a satellite colony. And so it came out yesterday. He had a press conference at Mar-a-Lago that lasted about an hour and a half yesterday morning. And I was watching it. And he again introduced comments specifically about Greenland and then to a lesser extent comments about the Panama Canal. The one on the Greenland area really caught my attention because I lived there for a year in the most northern part of it at Thule Air Base from February of 1956 until March of 1957. And while I was there, I formed certain ideas about it, and then I subsequently did more research about Greenland. And the timeliness of his comments really caught my attention, so I went back to review my notes in one of the books that I have that relates specifically to Greenland's history. So... The key is it looks like it's sort of on the table for discussion, continued discussion. And then late yesterday evening, I saw his son, Donald Jr., being interviewed over Fox News, and he was being interviewed at Mar-a-Lago. He had just returned from a 14-hour trip, a round trip, to Greenland. And he had been on the ground up there for four to five hours talking with people. So there were tapes of the visit up there, conversations with the natives. And it just, it seems so timely and so significant. Because his view on Greenland and also on the Suez Canal, I mean on the The Panama Canal is that they're both so strategic in the defense of the northern hemisphere, both us and Canada. And so consequently, I thought it was timely to address both of those, but specifically Greenland.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and he said that this is important to protect the U.S. and Canada from Russia and Chinese military and commercial routes through the Arctic Ocean. And he really is thinking strategically, yes?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, let me address why the strategic location is so significant. The year that I was in Greenland, it was – a time when there was a great deal of hostility from the USSR. President Eisenhower was leading the American people, but we were very concerned about could the things which were happening in Europe have a big impact upon us. So consequently, there were times when the fighter squadron, which we had at Thule, and also we had a refueling squadron that was there every six months that came out of Omaha, and it was there to refuel the fighters and or any bombers. Well, the summer of 1956, we also suddenly had a squadron of B-47s, which was a medium-range bomber but we didn't know it had nuclear weapons aboard. So there was a whole squadron up there, and the range on it is such that if they had ever been activated and sent towards the USSR, the closest route was over the polar area. And they didn't have enough fuel to go around and trip. So there was so much it was... going on then. And that was a summer when the British and the French took over the Suez Canal from Egypt. It was also the time when the Hungarians were trying to break loose and gain their independence. So much was going on in the world. And the key that most people don't think of is that when they associate China and Russia, they think of going across the Pacific or going across the Atlantic. But the most direct route is from Greenland over the ice cap.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and so are we in – what's going on now with Russia and China there? Is there some action going on that has caused Trump to think about this?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, yes. They have both expanded their naval capabilities, the Chinese especially. The Chinese have been in a very big building procedure for the last several years so that now the Chinese Navy – is actually numerically larger than the U.S. Navy. And the Russians' Navy is smaller, but they are also pursuing opportunities to expand their polar capabilities by building icebreakers and just doing other experimentation in the Arctic area that is a much more direct route. Now, we know that we are in one of the cycles whereby the Arctic Ocean is warmer right now than it has been in a number of years, so that over on the northern end of Greenland, which is closer to the North Pole, that the water is warmer and so that some areas which before were not considered accessible coming from the European or Asian continent across the North Pole, now it's conceivable that they might. And if the trend should continue, it would make it even more passable for both Russia and China. So consequently, the president very wisely said, looking down the road, is trying to be preventive and protective by acquiring greater control and access of Greenland. Because, for example, when I was there at Thule Air Base, which is the most northwesterly one, we would receive all of our food and most resupply of things in July and August. So that far north even, the Arctic Ocean is open. There's a big long area called the Davis Straits that separates Greenland from northern Canada. So this would be a route that they would come down through on their way to Canada or the U.S., whether it's for military vehicles, ships, or whether it is for commercial. But the main thing is it creates a concern, especially from the standpoint of military and national security.
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Well, and one thing, so you mentioned that the waters, that they might be warmer. We continue to hear about the polar ice caps are melting and that that is why we need to be concerned about global warming. And again, a plug for Climate Conversation. Check that out. And the podcast at a climate conversation dot com. But you had something very interesting that happened that proved that the Earth had been much warmer at a different point in time.
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Yes. There were two very distinct situations. The first week I was in Greenland, which was in the very last week of February 1956, I was staying in what's called a transient BOQ area. a trench, an area for, like a small motel, things for officers and civilians who have just come into Greenland. And one of the people that I met there was a geologist, a civilian, and so I asked him, I said, well, what brought you up here? And he said, well, I am a geologist, and this is an international geophysical year. That is the year of Now, whether it was just the particular designation for the whole year of 1956 or just a 12-month period. Nevertheless, he was there and was doing experiments and tests out on the Greenland ice cap, which was about a 30-minute drive east of our air base. And so... I would visit with him as he would come in daily for about a week. And one day he came in and he said, we had a very interesting find today. While we were out, we were doing drills or taps down vertical into the Greenland ice cap. And he said, one of our findings today was we did a drill many hundreds of feet Down in directly down into the cap. And he said, then what we brought up, we brought up shards from palm trees. Now, you know, you wouldn't have shards from palm trees unless the temperature had been such that it was tropical or subtropical. at some time, maybe hundreds, maybe thousands of years earlier. So this was an early introduction to that. Then later, I came across a book called 1421 that was written about 2002 by a British naval officer who had access through a very close friend of his in China to some of their archives. He was actually a submarine commander, but he worked very closely with this Chinese scholar and had access to some of the records that dated back to the era of the 1400s. He came across a map that showed Greenland that they had written. What had happened is in 1421, the Emperor of China had directed the commanders of his navies to go out and map the world, the navigable world. And one of the areas that was included turned out to be Greenland. And they had made a map of that was so close to what you would see today that it was amazing. But the only way they could have done it, they had to circumnavigate Greenland, which meant that the water up on the Arctic Ocean had to be open because they were traveling in one of those big Chinese junks, which is their big ships, and they're all by sail. So they had to be able to sail around the North End in order to be able to complete their maps. And so when I read it, looked at the book and got all the information, I was convinced that what we were dealing with was cyclic type of change in temperatures and change in climatic conditions. But we've known this always. There's a lot of reference to this in the Bible. So frequently they talked about, well, seven year cycle here and seven year cycle there. Now, these were for short term. But we also know from first and for those people, especially who watch the History Channel on television, there are many, many records that show that there have been tremendous variances all over the world. in climate. And all of this information was before we even talked about using carbon as a source of energy and carbon footprints. So none of this can be attributed to the contemporary concept that, yeah, these things are happening, and if we just quit using coal and oil and if we change this and change that, it will have a bearing on on worldwide climate and everything that relates to that. Well, it's not really accurate. They fail to recognize history, and I'm looking at it from the historical standpoint, long range.
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Well, Colonel Rutledge, I so appreciate you connecting all those dots and also this information on Greenland. And thank you, last minute coming on to talk about this. I so appreciate it. Again, Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, 96 years young, and just so curious about so many different things. So really appreciate that. All these conversations come to you because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning. Thanks for having me on, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, absolutely. And as we were preparing for this, and we've had you on before, and again, thank you. I had the great honor to emcee your first event of Our American Lands. But you said that Sean has really been... On top of this, regarding the Stop the Dolores Monument, and then, of course, we're seeing this conversation from the Biden administration that they want to, because of the Canadian links, limit access to thousands of acres in six states. So, Sean Pond, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good morning, Kim. Thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it's good to have you. So, Sean, why don't you set this up for us? There's really several different things that are occurring. So what should people know first?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it's a long, drawn-out story, and I'll try to cover as much as I can quickly. But the Dolores Monument proposal popped into my existence in February of 2024. On February 20th, I started a petition to halt the Dolores Monument and honestly didn't know a whole lot about these kind of issues, but I became averse quickly whether I liked it or not. So we started that petition. It gained a lot of traction, which created a lot of phone calls, emails from media outlets, from Congress, from Senate, and we quickly shed some national light on the issues of these federal land grabs and how it impacts local economies. And So here we are today. We're, you know, what, 12 days from January 20th, and so far we haven't had a national monument. So in my personal belief, I think that we've brought enough light to this federal land grab. I think we might beat it, and that's started a whole new problem. So the environmental activists that originally proposed this 400,000-acre national monument said, have now teamed up with a few locals here in my area and proposed, in lieu of a national monument, a national conservation area. And they're doing their very best to convince these people and the public that a national conservation area would be a good thing and a better alternative to a national monument. And the cases they're stating are simply not true. The differences between a national conservation area and a national monument are and how they're managed by the Bureau of Land Management are no different. They still pose the same road closures, trail closures. They close off access to natural resources and critical mineral extraction. And most importantly, they take liberty and freedom away from Americans.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so this had been out there, this Dolores Monument. Ultimately, it would have been a land grab. Now, was that all public land? Is there some private property in that as well, Sean, of this 400,000 acres?
SPEAKER 07 :
Kind of a two-part question. So it's mostly Bureau of Land Management, and there is some Forest Service, and there is two large wilderness study areas that the boundary would encompass. it doesn't take in and absorb any private property per se, but it surrounds an awful lot of public property and the private land ranches and where it doesn't take it, it can, you know, eminent domain is a scary thing in our federal government with overreach and there's, there's property devaluation. There's something called federal reserve water rights. Uh, there's a whole rabbit hole to go down. So it's, uh, it would be detrimental to these local communities, these legacy ranchers, cattle grazing allocations, the future of critical mineral extraction, and private property rights. These small rural towns in western Colorado, they depend on access to public land for logging, mining, ranching, and just outdoor recreation, just the ability to roam freely and enjoy freedom in this country.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and Josh Lowenstein, ultimately, it looks like the goal would be to limit human access to these lands. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, that would be correct. And any of these proposals are serious as far as how they could limit the public's access to the public ground. But the other thing is that from the point of view of being in opposition to these We can't give an inch. We can't compromise at all. And that's unfortunately what Sean is running into with his area. And also it's been an ongoing thing with a compromise here because in the Canales County conservation area proposal, there has been threats that come from the Senator Bennett's representative in the area saying that if we don't accept a National Conservation Area, we're going to get a national monument, and it makes the people, the locals, in fear that they're going to lose their permitted grazing ground and all of that. But the other thing about the compromises is it can lead directly into things that are actually worse than conservation areas and national monuments. It can lead towards wilderness designations, and even worse than that, it can lead to Should the natural asset companies get revived, it could allow Wall Street investors to buy public land, which could do all kinds of terrible closings and logging and unrestricted mining and things like that in areas that would have never otherwise been subject to it at all. So it could get worse. So our best bet is to stand strong against all of this stuff.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and Sean, I see that this could also really ultimately, you mentioned limit access to natural resources, but also you mentioned grazing, which ultimately that could affect our food sources. So it's going to affect people in the urban centers and their lives. opportunity to buy abundant or have abundant food sources at an affordable price. Is that a stretch, or do you agree?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you're absolutely correct. And I can't remember exactly now. I've done so much research in the past 11 months. But I believe there are 78 ranching families that have a total of 300 grazing allocations per and those are round numbers, within this proposed monument boundary we have over here. And of those, about 50%, if a monument or national conservation area or any restrictive government process was put on these lands that would affect the grazing allocation, they would go out of business. So you're talking about legacy ranchers, you know, four- or five-generation ranching families that are no longer in business, and that does provide a direct chain directly to our food source for this country. Now, on the flip side of that, we have to be careful because the environmental activists, especially those in my area, and Josh has got the same exact problem, is they don't tell the truth. They lead to these things by fear-mongering and spreading misinformation. So in this case, they will tell you, well, it won't affect the cattle grazing allocations. And in fact, it's a half-truth because it doesn't – if a monument is created or a national conservation area or even a wilderness area, It doesn't automatically mean that the grazing allocation goes away, but what happens is the roads are closed, accesses and trails are closed, and therefore the rancher can't get into those areas to maintain ponds, to haul water to cattle in the winter months, to fix fences. So the grazing allocations become no longer economically feasible, and they're not renewed. And I'll give you an example of one over here on the western slope in Mesa County. It's called the Dominguez-Escalante National Conservation Area. It was created in 2007. It's 278,000 acres, of which 66,000 acres is now a wilderness designation. When it was created, the rule book for the Dominguez-Escalante National Conservation Area was some 40 pages deep. Today, as we speak... 90% of the roads in that National Conservation Area have been closed to the general public. They have created a no-shooting zone, so you can't hunt that area. And they only allow paid camping in dispersed, regulated areas. And the rulebook as we speak today is 473 pages. And one of those rules tells a cattle rancher that before his cattle can enter the area, he has to decontaminate their hooves. So these are the type of restrictions the government comes down with. that affect all of us from whether it doesn't matter if it's oil and gas, logging, just motorized outdoor recreation, and especially ranchers. I mean, we're talking about the people that feed America, and these type of government restrictions absolutely affect all of us from coast to coast.
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Wow. We are talking with Josh Lowenstein, founder of Our American Lands, and with Sean Pond, who became very involved in stopping the Dolores Monument. And Sean made an inference, which is true, is these radical activists never give up. And so we need to continue to shed light on this. We will do that. All this happens because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable. and abundant energy from oil natural gas and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and also check out the center for american values and i had mentioned the colorado union taxpayers will be having our legislative event on thursday the 23rd that is also an on values presentation at the center for american values in pueblo and that It's competing events, I know, but that's going to be a really great event there. And so be sure and get to their website, AmericanValueCenter.org, for more information. And the center is nonpolitical and nonpartisan, but focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Pleased to have on the line with me Josh Lowenstein, founder of Our American Lands, and Sean Pahn in HALT, the Dolores Monument. And Sean, first of all, tell us, where was the Dolores Monument exactly? What was this area that they were trying to do this monument and now maybe a National Conservation Area?
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So the proposed Dolores Monument is along the Dolores River, and it's a deceiving name because they call it the Dolores River Canyon National Monument Proposal and exists in western Colorado in Montrose and Mesa County. It's really one of the last wild and free places in the state. It's a beautiful area, and where they call it the Dolores River Canyon National Monument, the boundaries extend 50, 60 miles outside of the river. And it encompasses something called the Eurovan Mineral Belt. So while they call it the Dolores River Canyon National Monument proposal, it's actually an anti-mining campaign. It would take in 90% of the largest and richest uranium reserve in the United States. So there's a whole bunch of these environmental activist groups that come after for different reasons. This seemed to be a significant reason for this. But it basically runs, if you're familiar with western Colorado, it's everything from – a small town of Dub Creek, Colorado, up the entire Dolores River Canyon, stretching 60 miles outside of the canyon, all the way to the Utah state line. It would encompass towns of Paradox, Bedrock, Gateway, and the outlying towns of Nucla and Natterita, Colorado.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so it seems, Sean, that the Biden administration is trying to fast-track so much of this before the old Biden-Harris administration leaves office. Will things change significantly when Trump is inaugurated?
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. You know, when this thing started, every time that I spoke in public to the media on a show, a podcast, I always said the greatest defense that we had was changing this administration. This administration income in January 20th has an America First agenda, and it plans to put the American people and our industries first. So getting Joe Biden out of the White House and hiding his crayons and making sure he can't execute these federal land grabs by abusing the Antiquities Act of 1906 is imperative. And I think the American people as a whole spoke across this country about And while Joe is like – I don't know if people know this, but he created two national monuments this last week in California by abusing the Antiquities Act of 1906. So the threat is still real. We still have 12 days here to see if he will target this area. Word is he won't, that we've had enough opposition to prevent that. And I think if he was, that Donald J. Trump and his administration would overturn it anyway. So I wanted to take one second to take that as a testament to people like myself and Josh Lowenstein, the organizations like Our American Lands, the Blue Ribbon Coalition. Standing up and standing our ground really can make a difference. The biggest problem that I've ran into is getting people involved. And I think if freedom-loving Americans across this country understand that land and liberty are deeply interwoven and that people will get up, speak up, and take a stand to preserve liberty and freedom, we have a real chance at changing this country, especially in the next two to four years under this administration.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, Josh, you are really staying on top of so many things. And another thing that has been is this designation for the Canadian links of thousands of acres. And there's a commentary period on that. Bring us up to speed on that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, A, amen to what Sean just said. That was great. But B, on the Canadian links, I sent you the information to be able to put up on your website about the comment period, which ends on January 28th. But it is 5 million acres just in Colorado, 400,000 of which would be enveloped by this designation that is private property. And how that would affect it, they didn't specify in any of their documentation so far. But it goes over six states, and it's over 12 million acres that actually would be designated for the Canadian lynx. And in Colorado, which the lynx got introduced, what, 24 years ago about? And so far, they're somewhere that they can count between 50 and 150 lynx in Colorado. and that they need, you know, 5 million acres. And, I mean, these areas are already protected by every kind of federal law there is and the designations related to mountain lions and the lynx and now these darn wolves that they're introducing and the, you know, good Lord, when are they going to stop with all this stuff? You know, soon there's going to be, you know, children being carted off. In fact, my friend Angel Cushing out in Kansas said that a coyote got a hold of a five-year-old kid and attacked it and started dragging it down a path that they were walking on. And, of course, it's only a matter of time until, you know, it's a wolf or a now-starved-out mountain lion that got run out of its food supply by the wolves that's going to, you It's only a matter of time with these silly designations. It's crazy.
SPEAKER 14 :
All of it seems to be, thank you, Josh, all of this seems to be really anti-human flourishing. And we can be good stewards of our earth. and also coexist with nature and have human flourishing. But this is all very anti-human flourishing. And the last thing on this, Sean, though, is these environmentalists are not doing things to really take care of the land. Just hands off of the land, we see these intense forest fires. Of course, we're seeing this fire in the Los Angeles area right now. And I think a lot of it's because we don't have proper management of our forests. If we no longer have cattle grazing on grassland, then we'll have more intense fires. And so this is really anti-human flourishing, Sean Pond.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'll kind of comment on what Josh opened up with. The ultimate goal of all of these designations, restrictions, protected areas for wildlife habitat requirements, all go to one place, and it's all driven by the United Nations 30 by 30 agenda. And if people think that that's a hoax or a conspiracy theorist, I assure you it is not. A simple Google search will educate you. And the ultimate goal of the 30 by 30 is rewilding the West. It's protecting 30% of all lands and all waters by the year 2030. Joe Biden called it the America the Beautiful Act. So like when these – I'm going to use an example of – the two national monuments that Joe Biden just created this week in California. He created something called Wildlife Corridors, which is a goal of the environmental activists and the ultra-left Green New Deal folks. He created a wildlife corridor by connecting all of the national monuments – well, all but one so far – in California all the way to the Bears Ears National Monument in Utah. Now, this is where my fight ties in. If they were able to create the Dolores National Monument or National Conservation Area, those would connect. So you're talking about a wildlife corridor all the way from Southern California to Colorado. These wildlife corridors then create an environment with road closures, access restrictions, no drilling, no logging, no mining, and they now fit the definition for wilderness designations, which is always the ultimate goal. They want to rewild the West. They want all human activity off of these lands, whether that be oil and gas drilling or just us going for a ride on our side-by-side on a Sunday or taking your Jeep out with your family. They don't want fossil fuels. They don't want cattle ranchers. The ultimate goal is to combat climate change. They believe that if we don't rewild the West, if we don't save waters and lands, that we will have a global extinction event.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. Hey, Sean Pond, thank you. We are out of time. Josh Lowenstein, thank you. We will get you guys on again soon. Thank you so much for the work that you're doing. And my friends, stay tuned for our number two. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 13 :
It definitely was something. Just how much land they want is egregious to me.
SPEAKER 14 :
And then the other thing they're trying to do, Joe, is force people into these urban corridors, into these apartments that are four- or five-story apartments, just little boxes, and they want everyday people to then ride around on trains or buses, bikes, or cars, and just basically be prisoners in these little, they call them, smart cities or 15-minute cities, trying to take away our freedom of mobility through limiting access to internal combustion engines. It's all anti-human. And humans can coexist and be good stewards of our Earth. And that's just really important to understand. And valuing humans is very important, I think, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 13 :
I definitely agree. And the other thing that I was kind of noticing was the limiting of resources that we can use. And now when they take the land and now people can't use it for private organization of resources, now it has to be the government's use of it. I don't like that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And to limit logging, to limit resources, natural resources, development, limiting grazing. All these things are on the table. And that's why it's so important that we understand this. And thank you to Sean Pond. He was not involved in all of this until really, he said, February of 2024. And he has thousands of followers now. And he's really made a difference. And same with Josh Lowenstein. uh on our american lands and these are two um people that are stepping forward to stand for individual freedom and that is so so important but let me mention the usmc memorial foundation uh speaking of people that everyday people that step up to do their duty and that is our military uh people that have put their lives on the line to save our protect our liberty and protect our country and we need to honor them and so check out the usmc memorial foundation's website that's usmcmemorialfoundation.org so that you can see everything that is going on and we're going to jump into this we'll probably have some more discussions on this with trent loose in this hour and text line is 720-605-0647 we do want to hear from you and and uh lots of activity on the text lines uh and oh susan said well said joe way to go So let's get over here. Let's see. Check out the website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Thank you to all of you who support us. You can hear the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast one to two in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 in the evening. That's on all KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, so any place in the world, and also the KLZ app. And then the shows are then posted on Spotify and iTunes as well. And summaries of the show can always be found on my website. Just click on the image. It'll bring up the podcast, the written summary. And so all kinds of different ways to re-listen to things. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And socialism is not about free stuff. And remember, you can't give something to somebody for free that has not been taken from somebody else. So there is no free stuff out there. And socialism is not about free stuff. It ultimately has to come down to force. Our word of the day is quirk or quirky. And that is spelled Q-U-I-R-K or Q-U-I-R-K-Y. It could be a peculiar behavior. It could be an unpredictable or unaccountable act or event. Or it could be a sudden, sharp turn or twist, such as a quirk of the head. and there's a lot of quirky things going on right now, I would say, with this Biden-Harris administration on their way out. One of the things, well, two things, is they want to limit our water heaters and make that more expensive for us to have hot water, and then also it's more than quirky, I would say, this big land grab through these land... conservation easement designations or monument designations. And it's more than quirky on that. So quote of the day, though, is from Ayn Rand. She was born in 1905, died in 1982, the author of Atlas Shrugged. And she said, the essential characteristic of socialism is the denial of individual property rights. So as we are getting ready with this Colorado State Legislature, which is convening today, anything that will be limiting or denying individual property rights is moving us towards socialism. And so that's why the work that the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is doing is so important. and we would love to have you join us. It's only $25 a year or $2.08 a month, and you will receive access to hours and hours of volunteers' analysis of many of the bills that are being proposed. We take positions on things regarding taxes, property rights, TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers' Bill of Rights, and school choice, among other things. And so be sure and join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. And you will receive the email that we send to the legislators and the governor each week. That'll start here, probably not this next Monday, but the Monday thereafter. So be sure and join us on that. These are such important discussions, and we have them because we have amazing sponsors. I know each and every one of them personally, and I know each and every one of them strives for excellence as they work with their clients and their customers. And, of course, one of those is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. Lorne Levy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you. Good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
And, uh, uh, property rights, homeownership has been a great way for people to create wealth, um, be able to live the lives that they want to live. And, um, uh, the cost of money interest rates has, has gone up significantly. Um, and where, where are we at on that? Is the cost of money still going to be right around these levels or what do you see?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. I mean, for right now, it seems like it's going to be that way for a little bit. Um, I was just looking before I came on with you and the 10-year treasury just crossed 4.70. So it's like a 472, which is the highest it's been since April of 24. So in the last, you know, notice that nine months. So that means mortgage rates are back kind of where they were spring of 24. So we're in a situation here where, you know, we're back to what you and I have been talking about for a long time, where people really need to be prepared. They need to get pre-qualified if they want to move. People are moving. People are coming to Colorado. People are relocating, but they just need to be prepared and make sure that they're pre-qualified and that they're aware of where the rates are at the time and make sure that everything works financially for them at that point. And then hope that, you know, in the next, However long, if and when rates do come down, we could help them get to a lower payment.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so the key, you say marry the house and date the rate. And, of course, I think right now with all of this spending of the Biden administration on their way out, we have way too much debt here, national debt. And so the cost of money probably is going to stay around these levels for a little while, yes?
SPEAKER 20 :
And it's difficult because, you know, just the way we're set up, we have different branches of the government, right? And they're supposed to check and balance each other. It's not really – it's hard to do right now. And so you've got the Fed trying to control inflation and rein it in and hit this 2% number. But then when there's a lot of money going out from another branch, it makes it difficult. So, you know, the Fed, like you and I talk about, is data-driven, and they're looking at the numbers, and the numbers – aren't forcing them to lower rates right now, which we were all hoping for. They did do it once or twice. We were hoping for several times in 2025, but they've said they may have to back off some of those cuts just to avoid a return of inflation from where we had it before. I got gas yesterday, and gas was down quite a bit, which was nice to see. But other things are being stingy and stubborn as far as coming down, as far as grocery store items and things like that. So it's taking longer than they had thought. And I think the biggest fear is that it might go back up. And so the Fed is thinking they might have to stay for a little while longer with these higher rates, which is hurting people that want to take money out of their home or purchase new homes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Mm hmm. So that's why. So but we will see adjustments in there'll be creative mortgage products as well as probably adjustments on prices of homes. And so there will always be opportunity. The key is, is to be informed, to be ready to go. And so that's why people should give you a call. Lauren Levy, what is that number? What's the best way to reach you?
SPEAKER 20 :
The best way to reach us is always just call 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 14 :
And because there is opportunity out there. And sometimes when it seems difficult, of course, they say with the stock market, Lauren, to buy low, sell high. But human nature sometimes does the opposite. When it seems like there's a lot of uncertainty, there can also be opportunity. But again, it's important to be informed, to work with real professionals. And that's where I think you can take advantage of opportunities there. So, again, Lorne, your final thought on this.
SPEAKER 20 :
I agree with you. I was just having a conversation with another mortgage person yesterday that we might see some more creative products coming out soon because banks are in business to make loans. And when loans slow down, they find ways to create new products that are good for people. So we might see some of that as well. So, like you said, always good to stay in touch and be prequalified and be in the know and be ahead of the game.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. And that number for Lorne Levy is 303-880-8881. Lorne, we will, I think you and Karen are going to be, nope, it's a couple of weeks. So we'll talk to you again next week. And then you guys will be in the studio here very soon.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right. Yep. Sounds good. Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors, and I thank Laramie Energy for for their gold sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy from coal, natural gas and oil that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. This industry is under attack from regulators, legislative, executive orders. And what that means is, is this reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy sources for us everyday people is under attack. And it is Wednesday, so that means it's a Trent Luce Wednesday. He's a sixth-generation farmer and rancher who has been working for 24 or 25 years, shedding light on the people that feed and fuel us and this attack upon the people that feed and fuel us. And Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks, Kim. And I think it was 25 years ago yesterday. my first radio broadcast from the National Western.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. How about that? That's amazing. And, boy, the people that feed and fuel us, their industry is so under attack, but what that ultimately means is for people that live in the urban corridors to that reliable energy, affordable energy, affordable and abundant food sources, all of that is under attack. And it's because of the elites that control the United Nations, the globalist elites. That's the agenda there. And in the first hour... Trent, we had Josh Lowenstein, the founder of Our American Lands on, and then Sean Pond, who is the, we've got a little static there, I don't know what's happening here, we may have to check on that. Sean Pond, who was the founder of Stop the Dolores Monument, looks like that may, the monument designation may not go through, but now you've got the activists talking about National Conservation Area, And we're connecting these dots on the Biden-Harris administration and this whole agenda to limit access of humans to our land, our property rights, our public lands. And you're all over this. You're going to have an event this Sunday in Akron, Colorado on Stand for Property Rights, correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
I am participating in the event. I'm not organizing the event. The folks of Washington County, Colorado in Akron are going to have this event from 2 to 5 p.m. in the afternoon. And Chuck Miller will be with me from Brush, Colorado. He's been on top of property rights as long as anybody in Colorado. And so Northeast Colorado, really not exclusive to Northeast, but the eastern half is under attack like so many other places. But I don't know if you heard, there is a new rule that went into effect the same day as the Colorado free range, cage-free rule went into effect, January 1st, 2025. So I think what's happening in Ottawa, Canada is going to fix all of these climate change problems, Kim. I don't know if you heard about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
What is that exactly?
SPEAKER 08 :
The city of Ottawa, which is the nation's capital of Canada, put in place a new law that you cannot idle your vehicle for more than 60 seconds before it moves. And they're doing this to prevent climate change. So it appears to me that once everybody in Ottawa is not idling their vehicles anymore before they move, all of these problems that we thought we had will be gone.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, there are different areas that already have this non-idling thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, Colorado has a non-idling rule, too. Yes, you're right. You cannot idle your vehicle for more than five minutes in Colorado.
SPEAKER 14 :
but what happened so i was up in wyoming in the jackson area this was a few years ago and jackson course it's beautiful there but they are the boulder of wyoming and uh... there is uh... a rule of you can't idle is sitting your car in idling it's cold up there so let's say that you're waiting for the kids serve for something or or just waiting for somebody to come out of a grocery store whatever They say that you can't stay warm, basically, that you can't idle your car. This is Crazyville.
SPEAKER 08 :
So there's 31 states. I've been on this this week. There's 31 states that have an idling law in the United States. I don't know anybody that ever enforces it. But most of those states have a provision that I went and read through a report of each one of them, have a provision that if it's under 32 degrees, you are allowed to be in that for an extended period of time. But the mere fact, and I was trying to be funny with the Canadian thing, because all other states claim that they made this initiative, which, by the way, North Dakota did it in 1940. That's how long ago this went into place.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
In North Dakota.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. And they said that it was to protect from theft of these vehicles. I don't need the government to tell me how to protect my vehicle or my property from theft. It's absolutely asinine. But in Ottawa, Canada, unlike the 31 states in the United States, they made this initiative to protect. prevent climate change and to reduce emissions. So I went, look, guess how many, what percentage of the emissions of the world are generated from the entire country of Canada, not just Ottawa?
SPEAKER 1 :
0.001.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're very close.
SPEAKER 1 :
1.6%.
SPEAKER 08 :
1.6% of all emissions in the world come from the country of Canada and And Ottawa somehow is trying to convince people that by reducing idling to less than 60 seconds, we're going to put a check on climate change and emissions. That's how ridiculous this whole thing has gotten. By the way, no more ridiculous than the state convening and saying we're going to put in place an idling law so your vehicle is not stolen from you. I don't need that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. So I have a question for you. I've always wondered this. The newer models that will basically turn off at a stoplight or a stop sign and then restart, that seems to me like that could ultimately become a problem. a problem as the vehicle gets older, if it stops and starts? And I never really have asked anybody about this. I should probably ask Lauren Fix, too. But what's your thoughts on these new vehicles that turn off kind of at the stoplight?
SPEAKER 08 :
So I don't have anything like that, nor would I. I'll hitch up a horse to a buggy before I own a vehicle like that. And I have been in vehicles like that, and it happens at a stop sign and turns off, and I'm like, I'm getting out. This is not safe. This is ridiculous. Who would drive a vehicle that shuts off at a stop sign? It's going to be cause for a major concern.
SPEAKER 14 :
But, like, I think almost all the new vehicles do do that, don't they?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know the answer to that.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know the answer to that either. But I thought that really what this is is a messaging thing, again, from the global elites. They're making car manufacturers do this. Of course, it probably makes the car more expensive to have to do that as well. And so this whole idling thing is just, it's every which way. You can't idle in your car. Now Joe Biden wants to limit water heaters. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that Joe Biden is going to find a way to try to irritate and create chaos in any way, shape, or form in the next three weeks that he can think of. You know, the same day as he talked about – well, he wrote an executive order, didn't he, to ban water heaters?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, at least 40 percent of them, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
He gives two of the world's most known criminals medals of freedom. All of that is simply to bait people into chaos. And executive orders need to go away. They're not constitutional. We need Donald Trump, if he becomes president, to do one executive order to make sure that no more executive orders ever take place because they're not constitutional and to eliminate every executive order that ever happened.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that would pretty well take care of it, wouldn't it?
SPEAKER 08 :
It would. That would solve so many problems.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. So when Sean Pond was on in the first hour, he was talking about – and I've seen all these different headlines of national monuments, conservation easements. He said that there was something that happened in California, which was connecting all of the – now I can't remember exactly, but like the national – Parks or whatever, connecting them all the way to through Utah, which would make them like a wildlife corridor, which would ultimately be hands off for humans. It's pretty, pretty aggressive what this Biden Harris administration is doing on their way out the door, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no doubt about it. I do have a bit of good news. I'll call it good news. You know, the Colorado Parks is going to release another 10 to now they're saying maybe 15. Originally, they were going to release 10 wolves every year for five years. Now they're saying they're going to release 10 to 15 wolves for this year in Colorado. But there are three producers who have filed for a $581,000 predation bill. lawsuit against them that's what the money they have available but there are some significant losses for ranchers and that doesn't take into consideration the stress induced by wolf being present with this livestock so kudos to these three ranchers who are trying to take a stand and at least recapture some of what they lost
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and we're going to have Bonnie Brown on, I think, on Friday with the Colorado Wool Growers Association to talk about the wolves as well. But this is ultimately an assault upon our food sources. And we have taken for granted. abundant and affordable food sources at our grocery stores. And of course, with the government-induced inflation, the cost at the grocery store has gone up significantly. All of these things are connected. That's why the work that Trent Luce is doing is so important. shedding light on this, on the people that feed and fuel us and the attack upon them, which is ultimately an attack upon our way of life. And so we'll continue this discussion that all this happens because of our sponsors. And Lavaca Meat Company is located in Littleton, Colorado, and it truly is a premium beef product. And it truly is the steakhouse experience at home.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website and support them. They are certainly an organization that should be in your repertoire of organizations to support because it's important that we honor and remember those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And that website is usmcmemoralfoundation.org. Trent Luce is on the line and a sixth generation farmer and rancher. And in the previous segment, we were talking about cars and idling. One of our listeners said, Sent this in via text line, said, Wow, what do you think, Trent?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that artificial intelligence is going to eliminate humanity if we allow it to continue.
SPEAKER 14 :
yeah and so we need and i i remember trent when i was on city council so this was 2012 to 2016 and i was still connecting the dots and there was this big meeting i can't remember it was a luncheon meeting of course taxpayers paid for all of these electeds and and staff to go to the meeting and i think it was obama's Secretary of Transportation that presented again are close to this. This was a while ago, but they were talking about the benefit of self-driving cars. And again, there was probably three, four hundred people in the room talking. So I finally raised my hand and said, I'm a little concerned about these self-driving cars because I love my computer and I love technology, but sometimes it doesn't work. And I don't really want to be going down the road at 65 miles an hour and have some kind of glitch with the computer. And Trent, you could have heard a pin drop. And then afterwards, I had several people that came up and said, you said the thing that nobody was willing to say. But they have been pushing this for quite some time, Trent.
SPEAKER 08 :
So most of the issues that I work on. are tied to the removal of what you talked about in the early segment and what we're going to do in Washington County on Sunday this week, which is the removal of property rights. Fundamental property rights are tied to liberty and freedom, and it's the very theme of the Constitution. And as I see, whether you want to talk about transmission lines, you want to talk about CRP, you want to talk about government payments, cage-free egg law that's now in place in Colorado. All of those are hurdles to food production, which make it tougher. And the number one hurdle, by the way, is property tax. The ability to continue to afford to pay the property tax to keep something that you think you own, and yet you have to pay to own it each year. Makes no sense whatsoever. And if you do the math on all of that, you come up with a summation is that they don't want people to own property. And I was speaking in Bismarck two weeks, three weeks ago, and I was talking about all of these challenges. And John Deere, you and I have talked about, is at the heart of every one of these challenges. They're funding these challenges. They're doing all kinds of things that are anti-farm, anti-property rights, anti-liberty. And they're working in conjunction with the government to do this. And when I got done speaking at this meeting in Bismarck, a guy came up to me and he said, Trent, I got to tell you this story. He said, I haven't told anybody because it just was too crazy to believe at the time. But he said it was early 90s. I don't remember where the meeting was or when the meeting. And I just remember being at this meeting and the executive from John Deere was speaking and somebody asked him a question about what does he see in the future? He said, I see where farms will be owned by the government and we will have autonomous equipment farming all of the land.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
And he said, everybody just was like, oh, that's funny. And everybody laughed in the early 90s. They're like, yeah, whatever. That's a funny joke. That's no longer a joke. Because everything that we see taking shape is pushing people from the land and that we have a few corporate interests that believe in conjunction with it. And that brings me back to the Sustains Act, which went into play in 2024, which is about the continued development of the public-private partnership between government entities and private entities, typically nongovernmental organizations, NGOs. But, Kim, everything that we're moving to is complete control by the state and elimination of the people who have the skills to take care of problems.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And ultimately, farmers and ranchers, they care about the land. They are providing food to feed America and the world. And this is so, so under attack. And there's a lot coming in on the text line. But this came in from Susan. She said she watched your podcast with the Ag Commissioner in Colorado. And we just republished my podcast. essay that I wrote in 23 regarding the cage-free eggs, cage-free hens, and selling cage-free eggs here in Colorado, and the price has gone up significantly. Tell me a little bit about this podcast with the Egg Commissioner.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's actually the Executive Director of Colorado Egg Producers Association, Bill Scabby, and Bill lives in Brighton and represents the Egg egg producers of the state of Colorado. It was a great conversation. And he made it very clear that the direct impact of the cost of eggs in Colorado retail right now is a result of what the USDA is doing with control of avian influenza. And point blank, the birds that they're killing is reducing the supply of eggs Bill doesn't want to give as much credit, I'll use the word credit, to the cage-free egg law that went into effect because, to his point, the millions and billions of dollars that the Colorado egg farms have invested in going cage-free, you know, somebody called him. He made this point, I think it's a very valid point. Somebody called him and said, it was a legislator, called him and said, you want me to just enact a new bill to turn this around? He said, no. Really, we want government out of this situation. We want the farmers to be able to produce what the consumer wants and is willing to pay for. And at this point, all of these egg producers in Colorado have made these million-dollar investments. Causing them to do something else would only create more financial hardship. And who pays the price every time there's financial hardship? The consumer. And so it just speaks to More government intervention leads to all of these challenges. But he's quite content with where it's at now. Just keep government out of more in the future, which that's a pipe dream, we know. But we can all hope.
SPEAKER 14 :
The piece that I had done initially in 23, the place where I buy eggs had gone from $2.99 a dozen to $6.99. This was before the avian bird flu thing. This was as we were starting to have these regulations go through. Now the eggs are $8.99 a dozen. And one of our listeners said that she was talking with someone and they attribute all of that increase in egg prices to the avian bird flu. And you and I have had conversations on it. And that is that they are killing healthy birds. Millions of birds have been killed. And many of them are healthy birds. So now let's think about this, Trent. Let's try to connect this dot. We have those that put in this cage-free egg law because they said they care about chickens, that they want to have certain square footage, that they want to have dry dust baths, dust bath areas, certain nesting things, because they care about chickens. But my gosh, if you have an avian bird flu and a chicken test for that, test positive for that, they kill them all. That doesn't seem like they care about chickens at all. I think it's more about the food source.
SPEAKER 08 :
What do you think? I agree with you. It's very complex. It's not simple. But last year, the government, USDA, euthanized 60 million chickens. That would be a combination of not just egg-laying birds. It would be broilers, egg layers, and turkeys. And I've long had an issue with their approach and their protocol in eliminating the entire flock. There could be some positive birds in one barn, and they'll eliminate every barn that's at that location. It flies in the face of what we do in terms of animal stewardship and From day one, we identify sick animals, we isolate them, get them away from the rest of the population, and we move on. And so there's just a tremendous amount of questions that should be asked about how the USDA continues to administer this protocol. And it's going to get worse because, I don't know if you heard this or not, but they are claiming, I believe it was a gentleman in Louisiana, Mississippi or Louisiana, that the first death attributed to avian flu, H5N1. Now, I don't know what the guy really died from. I don't know. Apparently there was a guy that died. But what I am telling you is that they are rolling out the red carpet to make avian influenza the next pandemic. And we need to remain rooted in what the true science behind it is. And eliminating the entire flock because of one positive is not science.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And what that is also doing, it's eliminating birds that may have natural immunity, which will make the flock stronger as well. So as you say, you get rid of the sick birds, but you don't kill all of them. That doesn't seem like that's very compassionate to kill all of the birds. And so we'll continue. And the other thing is, Trent Luce, I was talking with someone about the price of eggs.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just before you go to that, I want to be very clear that that it's the United States Department of Agriculture that has this protocol, not the Colorado State vet, not the producers. It is the USDA that has that protocol. I just didn't want anybody to be confused on that. Sorry to interrupt.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not a problem. Thank you for that clarification. And now, of course, I forgot my important thought.
SPEAKER 08 :
You were going to go with price of eggs again. Oh, the price of eggs. There is no doubt that when you move to cage-free environment, you're going to increase the cost of eggs. They're going to cost you more. And that happened because of a few loud people. And this is the fight that I've been in. from day one when I started doing broadcasts, is making sure that the farmer decides what is best for the animals. In this situation, and what Colorado is now faced with on farms, because the consumer, not the consumer, a few loud people said, we want these chickens to be in a better environment. The mortality rate of a cage-free hen is extremely higher compared to chickens in a cage. Chickens were put in a cage for a number of reasons. Number one, protection. Protection from other chickens. The pecking order is something that is a real situation. And if you look at the data, because of my conversation with Bill, I wrote my column about this week. If you look at the egg production nationwide, across the board, in 2024, we have achieved a chicken laying 300 eggs a year. That's double what they did 20 years ago. And we accomplished that by understanding light, because all of the barnyard chickens that are in my area right now, my in-laws and other people that I know, their hens aren't laying anything. My mother-in-law got one egg two days ago. It's because they're dealing with the light and the cold temperatures. Chickens in a barn are protected from all of these things, and they're laying 300 eggs a year because they have eliminated the stresses. And now by putting them in a cage-free environment, you're increasing this level of stress for these chickens, and you're going to see the performance actually go down because of what people perceive to be a better way for the chicken instead of asking the farmer what's working best.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and that is so important. Ask the experts on this. And when I say experts, I mean real experts, not the scientific experts that we've had in all of these different, quote, in so many different articles. We're talking with Trent Luce and about our food supply, which is super important. And these discussions happen because of our great sponsors. And one of those is John Boson with Boson Law.
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SPEAKER 14 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. Check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado on the beautiful Riverwalk. It is really a special place, and they're going to be having a great event on the 23rd. And so check out their website for more information, AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. And talking with Trent Luce, sixth-generation farmer and rancher, we have Wyatt from Wyoming on the line. Wyatt, what's on your radar?
SPEAKER 05 :
Good morning, Kim. I just got a couple of quick points. First one would be if the judge claims that Joe Biden is not competent to stand for prosecution on his records that he was hiding in his garage, how can he be competent to sign executive orders? How can they have it both ways? He's not competent and he is competent. Second point would be, have you heard about Polis's sun train? No. Okay, this one is really good. They're going to put batteries on a train and haul it to Pueblo, charge it up from all the solar panels, and then bring it back up to Denver and put it on the grid in Denver. My question would be, why don't we put the solar panels in Polis's backyard so that, you know, he can have electricity up here? It's, you know, it's And then I think those trains still run on diesel. And so the other thing is they're going to have to rent the tracks from Burlington Northern. So they got they can do this because they got another government grant. So those are the two things that maybe you'd kick around also.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, my gosh. The Sun train. Yes. On diesel powered trains. Super interesting. Trent, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, that's about as wise as Ottawa putting in place a law to stop idling vehicles for more than a minute because it causes climate change. We've got to have accountability. We have to have enough people stand up and say, we are tired of this. We are going to take matters in our own hands, and we're going to get rid of you. Through elections, by the way, is what I'm talking about. Elections and accountability. I mean, we have people conducting treasonous activity in the name of government at every level.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Treason is a violation of our statute. It's a statute and a violation of our constitutions.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Yeah. So we've got a lot coming in on the text line here too, Trent. So I'm going to ask you this one. And it says, how did we allow the government to decide that we have to destroy an entire flock of birds when one bird is sick? And how can we turn that around? To have 60 million fowl destroyed is beyond ludicrous. Think of all the people that that would feed. Good point. Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. It is ludicrous. And again, I come back to the same question. When are we going to hold them accountable to what they are doing? I do have one success story that I want to share, though, and I don't want to run out of time. So one year ago this week, I was in Pennsylvania. I was at the Pennsylvania Farm Show, and I remember getting on a plane in Harrisburg and learning as I got on the plane that Amos Miller, a local Amish farmer, had been arrested again. He was running a PMA, Private Merchandise Association, where he was selling raw milk and products from his farm in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to people. His farm was raided, products were taken, and he had been basically arrested for violating food safety laws. This week, a judge has said that Amos Miller... of Lancaster County has been authorized to continue his farming operations and protracted the legal battle in which the state and federal authorities cannot touch this guy. So that's pretty huge. This is big news, and it is a significant win. And I wanted to share a win because far too many times we talk about sun trains and stupid things that just make no sense whatsoever. Here's a success story. And I truly believe that private merchandising associations, PMAs, are a vital part of our future in food and fuel, to be honest, but particularly in food.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Next thing, a good point. Well, it says we don't eliminate all the people who come down with some sort of a virus to protect the rest of the society. In fact, that's how we build immunity. So good point. Again, this whole chicken thing is just pretty darn crazy. Let's see here. Oh, gosh. Shh. This was from a listener. It said, the British TV show Clarkson's Farm shows the future of farming in America. The government controls all aspects of farming operations via regulations. I would imagine that farming is probably not as efficient now in Britain, correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Jeremy Clarkson does a great job. I don't know him personally, but I know people that know him. And he has brought the real world of agriculture to many viewers in Europe and throughout all of Britain. The premise that we're not as efficient, that is the one thing. And I spoke to that when I was talking about the chickens. We have become so efficient in producing more with less. And if we truly want to improve the environment, that's our continued goal is to produce more with less. Use fewer resources more. to generate more of the essentials. That is our inherent desire every single day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Next thing here, a listener wants to know, can anyone attend the meeting in Akron this Sunday and how can they get information?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Anyone, it is open to the public. Anybody can come. And I'm trying to think, if you just do a search or get a hold of me or go to my Substack, trentluce.substack.com, I've got a flyer. You know, I'll get you the flyer, Kim, and you can make that public as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. I think you did send that over.
SPEAKER 08 :
Two to five in Akron, Colorado. Akron, you know, it's not like Denver. You can find your way around pretty easily.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can probably ask somebody as well. Follow the pickups. Follow the pickups, that's right. Eric said that you can turn that feature off on your car, that automatic stopping at the stop sign. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'll take Eric's word for it because I won't have a vehicle that does that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And Eric's pretty smart. He understands all that. Another thing we'll be talking with Bonnie about this is I think there is going to possibly be a ballot initiative. They're going to try to get it on the Colorado ballot to repeal the Wolf reintroduction. So that's good information. Keep those cards and letters coming on the text line 720-605-0647. We're about out of time. We've got a minute. How do you want to wrap this up, Trent?
SPEAKER 08 :
I want you to get Bonnie in the frame of mind of telling Nick Theo stories left and right when you have her on Friday. And there's so much wisdom that was in that guy's head. I got to meet Nick one time in my life when I spoke in Maker, Colorado. That is a steward who understands sheep production, understood how we take care of resources. And so I'll be tuning in to listen to those stories.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. I will ask her about that. Nick Fields. And Trent, just keep up the field.
SPEAKER 08 :
Theo.
SPEAKER 14 :
How do you spell it?
SPEAKER 08 :
T-H. T-H. Theo.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Okay. I will ask her about that. And great. Okay. And this week, two to five in Akron, Colorado, protect property rights. Trent, thanks so much. We're going to see you next week.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm going to be in-house. I can't wait.
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Becoming a spiritually mature believer takes time and requires that you consistently grow, learn and apply God’s Word. This is how you come to know God. “Speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ” (Eph 4:15) Spiritual maturity is relative and dependent on the filling of the Holy Spirit and the content of the Word of God in your soul. Learning God’s Word requires academic discipline, concentration, and repetition taught by a well-qualified pastor. The advance to spiritual maturity is a progression through self-esteem and spiritual autonomy. Spiritual autonomy is relying on God’s Word for direction, not the advice of people. Self-esteem brings contentment and confidence knowing God has a plan for you. “Godliness is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment” (1 Tim 6:6). Mental contentment, being satisfied with where God has you and what He has you doing is stability in life. This is the key to advancing to spiritual maturity.
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Spiritual Maturity Review
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 631 aired on October 1, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes how about sticking with me? It’s going to be a time of motivation, some inspiration,
education and we do this without any type of manipulation. We’re not trying to con you. We’re
not trying to hustle you. We are not asking you for anything except a few minutes of your time so
that we can give you some information that I pray will help you verify as well as identify God's
plan for your life and if I can do this, you have the freedom to orient and adjust to the plan. The
FLOT Line heard every Sunday on this radio station is going on 12 years now being on the air
across this country. It is designed with one thing in mind, to teach you the principles and the
procedures found in the Word of God that relate to the basic concept of what it means to be a
Christian, how to live the Christian life. We’re not here trying to dazzle you with any words.
We’re not trying to promote any book. We’re not trying to sell anything. We’re just trying to
offer you some accurate information. Many people that listen to this show are born-again
believers. They've accepted Christ as their Savior and I'm very grateful for this. Our show is
heard from California to New York and I always love to hear from you. If you're listening would
you just let
in me know that we are being heard? If you could let us know, just drop us a note on
the email from our website. It always helps me when contract time is up and I decide whether we
need to go to a different station or keep on going where we are because nobody knows how
many folks listen to the radio show. We can't count the heads or anything and so we are just
trusting that God is using this show to help you. This is my prayer because my objective is to see
you become a mature believer where you glorify God to the maximum in your life. I'm not a
pastor. I don't intend to be your pastor. I can direct you to where you can find one if you'd like
some information about how to get under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor. My job is to
open the window, let a breath of fresh air come in to use that analogy and let you see the
potential for what you can learn, what you can understand. On our last radio show we dealt with
the word spiritual, being a spiritual Christian. I talked quite a bit about spirituality, carnality, and
the difference between the two. We talked about what is a spiritual Christian, what is not a
spiritual Christian, and what's a carnal Christian. A spiritual Christian is a man or woman who is
filled with the Holy Spirit. He’s spiritual but this is not the same as being mature. Maturity is a
different thing.
Spirituality has to do with the filling of the Holy Spirit and spiritual
maturity has to do with the filling of the Holy Spirit and the content of the Word of God in
your soul.
We’re going to pick up with this thought today here on The FLOT Line. Remember,
the FLOT line is made up of wonderful problem-solving devices that you learn and store in your
soul so you can stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside sources
of stress. The information that I'm giving you is called divine viewpoint and this would fit right
into the FLOT line under doctrinal orientation, Biblical orientation. This is a problem-solving
device, learning to acquire the mind of Christ, and this is what we are doing here. We are
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learning the Word of God. We are learning some doctrine. I left off last Sunday talking about
maturity in the Christian life. It’s related to the content of the doctrine you have in your soul and
it’s relative to each individual. As an analogy, some people may have 50cc’s of doctrine and
some people may have 100cc’s. In other words maturity is different and it depends on how much
of the Word of God you know. Without being filled with the Holy Spirit the content of the Word
of God in your soul is not going to be very effective for you because the Holy Spirit can’t do His
job. A mature believer is a believer that is filled with the Holy Spirit on a consistent basis and
takes in the Word of God on a consistent basis. In Hebrews 5:11-14, whoever wrote the book of
Hebrews recognized a problem,
“We have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have
become dull of hearing.”
This means you can’t pay attention, can’t keep your eyes open. I just
had lunch with some Christian friends and they were talking about people in their church who
wouldn't shut up while the preacher was teaching or wouldn’t shut up while the Sunday school
teacher was teaching because they wanted to talk.
Whenever the Word of God is taught it
demands concentration.
If you can't shut up and listen, how can you learn anything? This is a
problem. If you want to go to church and learn something and the guy or the gal in front of you is
yakking away and distracting you, you're not going to learn much of anything. These people that
are dull of hearing are the people that can't pay attention. Their minds drift, their minds wander,
they think about where they're going for lunch or what they're going to have for dinner. They're
going through everything in their head except what they should be going through. This sort of
person is the person who goes to church and fulfills the ritual of churchgoing but there's no
reality to it. Ritual without reality is totally meaningless. It’s a sad state of affairs that we have in
churches across America today. A lot of people don't hear what the pastor is saying. Oh, they’re
there and they’re sitting in the pew and they’re grinning from ear to ear, but they're not listening
and they're not applying the information. The writer of Hebrews recognized this when he said,
“You are dull of hearing. For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again
for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to
need milk and not solid food.”
Here's what he is saying. “You have been saved long enough to be
a teacher but you are not. You are not able to teach because you do not even know the basic
principles of the Word of God. You do not even know the basics so I can’t give you meat, I can’t
give you a steak because you would choke to death.” I have seen some people when you try to
feed them a steak in church, if you get into some deeper things of God with them, you just can't
keep their attention. They choke on it, they just can't handle it, they need the bottle. They need
the basics. They need little short sermons, little short messages with a few points, a poem, and
they're happy. If you want to learn God's Word, if you want to grow up, then you’re going to
have to learn to chew on some steak. You’re going to have to learn to get under a pastor that
knows how to cook a steak. When he teaches you the Bible, he’s not there just to give you
pudding and dessert. He's there to give you meat. This writer goes on to say in Hebrews 5:13-14,
“For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he
is an infant. But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to
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discern good and evil.”
Baby Christians, we've all been there. I was there as a young Christian. I
accepted Christ as my Savior when I was 22 years old. I knew nothing about the Bible. I never
read a Bible. I had to get a Bible and start reading and start learning. Thank goodness I went to
Bible college but it wasn’t there that I got the information. It was really from my pastor who
taught me the nuances to the Christian life, how to live the Christian life. I learned a lot about the
Bible in Bible college but I didn’t learn a lot about how to live the Christian life, the mechanics.
This is what a baby believer is, say someone who has been saved six months. The tragedy is if
he's been saved six years and he is still a baby and has to have a bottle. He still can't concentrate.
You still can't give him meat because he can’t understand it. The writer of Hebrews has been
trying to explain in this passage how the Lord Jesus Christ is our Great High Priest and he was
sensing that the recipients would not understand this advanced doctrine. He sort of backed up
and punted. For every believer I think it is a matter of priorities.
If you're going to learn God's
Word it requires some academic discipline and concentration, this is the key.
Babies don't
normally concentrate very long and concentration is necessary if you're going to grow spiritually.
This means you going to have to put other things out of your mind and you're going to have to
concentrate on the teaching of the Word of God. You may only be able to concentrate for 10 or
15 minutes. Sometimes this is true with me too. I sit down to study, put in a DVD of my pastor
teaching me the Bible and sometimes my mind will wander. Sometimes I’ll pick up the cell
phone and look at an email message and I lose my concentration. This is not a good thing. We
must concentrate if we are going to learn and often the pastor has to use repetition. This is one of
the good things my pastor does. When he's teaching me it’s like a bombing run of an airplane.
He'll fly over and drop a few bombs, principles, points that I need to learn and then he'll come
around, circle, fly over again, and drop some more bombs. He's saying the same thing but he’s
saying it in a different way. Repetition is essential to learning God’s Word. You look at the guys
that were in the Army, “forward march, about face,” they can do it in their sleep because they did
it so many times.
To learn God's Word you must concentrate and there must be some
repetition because without this there can be no recall and no application in your life.
You
have to be able to recall what you've learned. The rate of forgetting is greater than the rate of
learning and then you're in trouble.
You must be able to recall what you’ve learned and you
must be able to apply what you recall.
This is where we say the rubber meets the road. If you
can't handle it, if you just fall asleep, you can't concentrate, can’t keep your eyes open, you can’t
keep your mind on the subject, you’re drifting, you’re daydreaming and thinking, “When is this
guy going to shut up? When am I going to get out of here?” you're certainly a baby. You need a
little bottle that you can suck on because if your pastor gave you a steak, you would choke to
death.
If you're going to develop your spiritual life and grow spiritually, you have to
advance in your life through spiritual self-esteem, to spiritual autonomy and eventually on
to spiritual maturity.
Under spiritual self-esteem you get the confidence to live your life and not
have to depend on everyone else to live it for you. You don't have to run and ask questions of
everybody. Then spiritual autonomy is when you're able to glorify God on your own, stand on
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your own two feet. Then under spiritual maturity, you're able to face up to the warfare that you're
in, Ephesians 6:11,
“Put on the armor of God so you will be able to stand against the strategy of
the devil.”
You're able to glorify God to the maximum under spiritual maturity.
This is the
process the growing believer goes through: spiritual self-esteem, spiritual autonomy, and
spiritual maturity. You go from being a baby believer to being a student believer to being a
mature believer.
The filling of the Holy Spirit plus the rest of these 10 unique problem-
solving devices that we talk about are provided by God so you don't have to be dependent
on other people, you are dependent only on the Word of God.
Once you depend on the Word
of God, then you get everybody else out of the picture who is offering their advice or counseling.
If you pay to go to Christian counseling I pity you. If your pastor teaches you the Word of God
you don't have to pay to go to Christian counseling but people do. I'm sure there's some good
Christian counselors, I guess so, but all they’re going to do is tell you what the Bible says if
they're good Christian counselors and how to apply what the Bible says. This is the job of your
pastor. Get into the Word of God, learn the Word of God, apply the Word of God and move to
spiritual maturity in your life, this is what God wants you to do. He wants you to advance to
spiritual maturity, not be dependent on someone else. This is why you have church. Go, take
your Bible, take your notebook, sit down, not in the back row get up front where you belong, and
listen to what the pastor teaches you. Hopefully he will teach you God's Word so you can apply it
into your life.
You have to develop this spiritual self-esteem even as a new Christian so you
can have confidence in your life based on the Word of God. God has a plan for you.
What is
God's plan for your life? How do you fulfill this plan for your life? Once the Word of God starts
taking root, once your pastor starts teaching and starts watering the Word of God in your soul,
then things won’t be so fuzzy. Things will come into focus. You’ll start seeing a very sharp
image about what you should do as a believer.
It's awesome when you develop contentment in
your life.
Contentment, where you know that even if you're treated unfairly that you're going to
be just fine. The Lord will handle it. The Supreme Court of Heaven is open 24 hours a day. When
you have this humility mindset, then you're well on your way to glorifying God to the maximum.
As a Christian professional you have to understand the mechanics of the Christian life. A
Christian professional, this sounds like a complicated term, but this should be you. If you are a
Christian professional, this means you understand the mechanics of the Christian life and that
you also exercise integrity in your life. What is the motivation for integrity? It’s your personal
love for God. John 14:15 says,
“If you love Me you will obey Me”
and 1 John 5:3,
“My mandates
are not hard.”
There's your integrity. It is motivated by personal love for God. How can you love
a God you don't know and how can you know a God you don't learn about? Come on, you’ve got
to understand He is sovereignty, righteousness, justice, love, eternal life, immutability, veracity,
omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence. You’re thinking, “He rattled that off kind of
quickly.” Yes I did because I've heard it 1,000 times from my pastor, repetition, repetition,
repetition. As I heard it, I learned it. As I learned it, I came to know more of what my God is like.
I know He is immanent and transcendent. I know that He thought about me in eternity past. He
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provided a plan for me in eternity past. You should know these things. This gives you great
confidence in God's plan for your life. That after you accepted Christ as your Savior, He didn’t
leave you alone on an island to try to figure it out for yourself. He provides a spiritual mentor
called the Holy Spirit. He's provides a playbook called the Bible. He’s provides a coach called
the pastor. You must learn what's in the playbook. Spiritual autonomy is awesome. Once you get
this autonomy, you have the strength to faithfully execute the mechanics that you learn from the
Word of God. You begin to have courage and poise. If you have this courage and poise, this is
composure that you have from the Word of God in your soul. Let's talk about spiritual autonomy,
being independent.
Listen to 1 Timothy 6:6,
“Godliness is a means of great gain when
accompanied by contentment.”
There's the keyword, contentment, being content. Paul said,
“I
have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am in. I know how to get along with
humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity”
(Philippians 4:11-12).
“Godliness is a
means of great gain when accompanied by contentment. For we have brought nothing into the
world, so we cannot take anything out of it either. If we have food and covering, with these we
shall be content”
(1 Timothy 6:6-8). Again Philippians 4:11,
“Not that I speak in regard to need,
for I have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am in.”
This autonomy, the ability
to be independent and to be content with what God is giving you is what keeps you out of
trouble. If you have this contentment, then you have the wonderful capacity for God to pour into
your cup all kinds of blessings. If you're not content, regardless of what God gives you, you will
never be satisfied. You have to wait, God waits until you are content before He gives you
something you can’t handle that would destroy you. You want something that would destroy you
and you ask God to give you this or that. Maybe you prayed that God would let you win the
lottery or something like this. It would destroy your life. It would distract you from where you
need to be spiritually.
Mental contentment, having contentment, being satisfied with where
God has you and what He has you doing, is stability in your life.
This is the key to
advancing to spiritual maturity.
You cannot ever advance until you are content and you can't
be content without having stability in your life. This is where the opportunity to advance comes
from because you’ll know your limits. You won't be threatened by superficial nonsense that
comes down the pipe. You’ll be in control of your own life. You will have the ability to think for
yourself. You will have the ability to reason with divine viewpoint in your life and you will have
maximum stability. What do I mean by this? I mean you're not psychotic. You're not neurotic.
You are able to orient your life to the Word of God, to be stable in the Word of God, to be
anchored in the Word of God, and then God can pour things into your life and use you like a
beacon on a hill.
Your objective is to become a spiritually mature believer.
Your goal is to be
a winner believer, to have a maximum impact on human history. It may be an invisible impact.
Even though no one may know who you are, as a mature believer you are well known to the
Father and you are well observed by angels. As a mature believer being observed by angels,
known by the Father, you stabilize the sinking nation that you live in. You have an impact on
human history. You are blessing by association to your nation because you are part of the pivot
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that sustains it. You’re part of the core group of mature believers that sustains the freedom of the
nation. You're independent of counseling. You don't need human encouragement. You’re a
mature believer and you're able to glorify God to the maximum by means of all the blessings that
He pours into your life. God uses you as a vessel, as a channel of blessing. This is what it's about.
Everything you need to advance to maturity has already been provided for you, it’s been
given to you by God.
You have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. You have the complete canon
of Scripture. You have a local church where you can learn in privacy sitting in your pew and you
have a well-qualified pastor I hope. What God will not do is He will not manipulate your
volition. He will not infringe on your choices. He will let you make your choices and bad
decisions limit future options. Everything you need in your life is there. God is willing to pour it
out on you but to tell you the truth most people don't want it. Someone said to me this week they
want drive through Christianity. There was a drive up church at one time in California where you
just parked in the parking lot, you didn’t have to come in. I don’t think it worked out too good.
This is what they want, drive up Christianity. “I don't want to get dressed. I don't want to go to
church. I want to get it to go. I want you to feed me a big special meal deal and let me go on my
way and I'll be okay.” There is no such thing. If you want to be a mature believer, if you want to
glorify God to the maximum, it’s going take time. You're not going to get it overnight. You must
grow up. I've been a Christian over 40 years and I find more every day that I did not know.
Ephesians 4:15 says,
“Speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him
who is the head, even Christ.”
In 2 Thessalonians 1:3,
“We ought always to give thanks to God
for you, as is only fitting, because your faith is greatly enlarged, and the love of each one of you
toward one another grows ever greater.”
1 Peter 2:2,
“As newborn babies long for the pure
milk of the Word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation.”
In 1 Peter 3:18,
“Grow in
the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
Note you keep hearing
grow, learn and apply - do you see the pattern?
It's interesting, some believers think they don't
really need a pastor to help them grow. They think they can just read and study it for themselves
and they think that they'll be just fine. All they’ve got to do is just get their Bible and go out and
sit under the oak tree and smell the swamp smells, listen to the crickets, and they'll be good.
There is nothing wrong with reading your Bible, it’s a wonderful thing to do, but it's much better
as you sit in a church where a qualified pastor teaches you the Bible and teaches you what you're
reading. If I gave you an algebra book and I said go learn algebra, you couldn't do it without an
instructor and yet you seem to have the idea that you can take your Bible and you don't need a
pastor. “All I have to do is just take my Bible and I’ll figure it out myself.” You're kidding
yourself. You will never do this because the Word of God has technical vocabulary. The Word of
God has principles and procedures in it that must be taught. Spiritual failure comes to those
people that ignore this.
God doesn't want you to be a spiritual failure.
If you get defeated in
your spiritual advance, this doesn't necessarily mean you're a terrible person, that's not what I'm
saying. What I'm saying is you will never glorify God to the maximum because you got
distracted or sidetracked or defeated. Not that you went into some sort of immoral sin but you
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just walked away from God's Word. You walked away from a consistent way of learning. You
quit going to church. You quit listening to your pastor-teacher teach you the Bible. You got so
busy in your business, in your life, in your family, in your hobby that you didn't have time for it
anymore. The next thing you know you don't even miss it. I pity you. Not missing feeding on the
Word of God, I pity you, because you are missing the best meals ever. People always want to tell
me in my travels, “Oh, go eat here. Go eat there. It’s a great place to eat.”
Let me tell you - the
best place to get the best meals is sitting at the feet of your pastor.
If he's a well-qualified
pastor, if he knows the languages and he's teaching it to you line by line, verse by verse, that is
the best meal in the world.
He's making you rich.
He's giving you a word treasure in your soul
that will give you the ability to have the most fabulous life in the world. You don't see it, you
don't understand it because you think it is more important to go down to the restaurant and eat.
You think it is more important to go to the golf course or go fishing or go hunting or go
somewhere than to listen to the teaching of the Word of God. In the long run you're robbing your
own soul. I pity you for that. I hope you're paying attention. I need you to take a stand and get
with this program God has for your life. This is my prayer. I’m your host, Rick Hughes, saying
thank you for listening.
In this thought-provoking episode, Andy Pate takes over the helm, steering a conversation that navigates through pressing political issues with insightful commentary and spirited debate. With the return of John Rush on the horizon, Andy tackles Trudeau’s political downfall, the impact of governmental overreach in response to crises, and the societal pushback against authoritative regulation. Tune in for a mix of humor, analysis, and candid conversation as they seek reason in the midst of political chaos.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 18 :
You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
SPEAKER 04 :
With your host, John Rush.
SPEAKER 06 :
My advice to you is to do what your parents did, get a job first. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same and there's a big difference.
SPEAKER 01 :
Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. Presented by High Five Plumbing, Heating, Cooling, and Electric, where every call ends with a high five.
SPEAKER 09 :
Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I'm your host, Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush. One more day. John is back tomorrow. Back tomorrow. All reason is coming back to Denver tomorrow. Beautiful. Have you noticed that there's been no reason whatsoever in Denver for the last two weeks?
SPEAKER 17 :
That's true. I was driving on the road today, and there was a lot of lack of reason on the road.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly, and I think there's a real connection here because that's how long John's been gone. It just makes sense. So, folks, you need to be reasonable starting tomorrow. That's how long you have. You can be unreasonable for another, what is it, about 22 hours. And then you're going to start being reasonable again. Right here with me right now in studio is Luke Cash.
SPEAKER 17 :
Man, it's me. Hello.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. We do not have Tanner Cole, man.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, no. He's sick. He's sick. Because he's weak. His bloodline is weak.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER 17 :
Be better.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, let me ask you this really quick. Is it better to catch the flu early or late in the season?
SPEAKER 17 :
I'd say early in the season. Because getting sick around the holidays is a bummer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So maybe Tanner's kind of lucky. Gets it out of the way. Right. Now he's going to be totally immune the rest of the season.
SPEAKER 17 :
We're done with New Year's. There's basically no events coming up. Now's the perfect time to get sick.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Maybe he's faking it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Maybe.
SPEAKER 07 :
He might be faking it. Do you think he was intimidated by this much man in the room?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think so.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's just like, I can't be man enough.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think you're probably on to something.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, let's get into something that's kind of national. I'm going to play this. It's a beautiful sound. Here we go. I'll bet you never thought you'd want to listen to Kamala Harris. Oh, no. Here we go.
SPEAKER 11 :
The votes for President of the United States are as follows. Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida has received 312 votes. Kamala D. Harris...
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, I'm not sure if those were Americans or Canadians that were clapping at the time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Does it matter?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know. Canada seems even more excited about Trump taking office than we are.
SPEAKER 17 :
Which I'm surprised by. I know. I'll be honest.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're very excited. But here we go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Kamala D. Harris of the state of California has received 226 votes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, and then she says, you know, Trump is president. Let me ask you a question. Sure. I know by rule, the vice president, she has to do this. If she was the candidate, don't you think they could put a rule in that says somebody else can step up and make this announcement? Having to announce your own loss... No, I'm serious. I would say this for Republican or Democrat. Seems a bit cold to me. Am I being too sappy?
SPEAKER 17 :
Nah, I think it makes sense. I mean, God knows that government's already swamped in so much bureaucracy. What's the pain in adding one more?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I just think it's, to me, this seems a little bit much. I wish that if she, they should put something in the rules that if the person is the candidate who lost, they shouldn't have to announce their own loss.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right, get the next in line to do it. Get someone else.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, get somebody else.
SPEAKER 17 :
I get it, I get it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but okay, but we also mentioned that at the same time, Trudeau has stepped down. Hooray!
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, I heard about this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, I'm very excited about this because I cannot stand Justin Trudeau. I think he is one of the stupidest men alive. But he has great hair. Okay. I will confess he has awesome hair. But Trudeau has had to step down. He's had to step down because Canada is going through the very same rightward lean tilt that America is going through right now. MAGA has taken over Canada. It really has. And it looks a little bit different. And this all started up in Canada because of the truckers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, I remember all that.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you're going to say, well, where did it all really start? I mean, it's probably been coming for a while. They have economic problems as well. But it has been because this guy is a tyrant. OK, he is somebody who uses power in any possible way he can. He uses power to subjugate those and silence those who disagree with him. He would literally silence people who disagree with him. When you're sending the cops and sending, you know, the these government agencies into churches. Right. Just shut them down. When you're telling truckers that they've got to be vaccinated or else, when you're telling anybody they've got to be vaccinated or else, it's crazy. And I think especially when in the aftermath it became clear that the vaccine doesn't even stop the spread and you are literally punishing and ruining lives. And that happened here in America too, but you're ruining lives. I think that Canada finally looked and said, you know what? We've got a dictator here. We've got a tyrant. And I'm not talking a dictator on the level of Hitler and this kind of thing, but I'm talking about somebody who dictates, somebody who uses whatever power is at his hands that he can use to control the lives of others. And I'm starting to see in the West, look at Argentina. Right. I'm seeing a real rejection of that, and it seems to all be happening at once. What do you think?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. I'm not super familiar with... sort of how Canada operates up there. And I know Trudeau stepping down, but I don't know a lot of the details. Was it like societal pressure? Like did, did the people pressure him to step down or was it within the government itself? They were.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it's coming from all. It's coming from all quarters because the conservatives are literally pulling ahead of him by 20 points.
SPEAKER 17 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 07 :
The Liberal Party is going to get destroyed and they're doing a little bit of the Biden thing. Remember here in America, the liberals wanted Biden to step down so they'd have a better chance in the elections. Up there, Trudeau has become so toxic. They want him to step down so they feel that they can do better in the elections coming up. I don't know that they will.
SPEAKER 17 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, obviously it didn't. Did it help here in America? It did a little bit. I think Biden would have lost even worse. I do. But it didn't help much. Right. Right. And here's what I want to ask you. I think especially young people, because we saw a lot of the move amongst young people to the right this last election. And we've been seeing it also in a number of demographics. I think people are finally starting to realize something, right? The right isn't what they were told. OK, no, get me wrong. I'll be quick to come down on people on the right on my side when they try to be dictators themselves. Right. When they try to, you know, if I try to make my beliefs into other people's laws, for instance, you know, if I try to say gay people can't get married.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
OK, why? Because, you know, I'm born again, right wing evangelical Christian. I don't believe homosexuality is natural. Therefore, they should. And I take my beliefs and try to make them into their laws. What am I doing? I'm dictating. Right. Right. OK. Our side can do that, but we don't do it very much. Here's what I've really seen. You know the big four, and we'll be talking about Facebook later on in the show, and probably in the second hour. The big four have been totally run by the left. And what are the big four? The big four mobilizers of public thought. We're talking media, academia, entertainment, and that includes sports entertainment, and big tech. Okay, the Facebook. Gotcha. Yeah. How many years, Luke, have you heard from the big four, because you're a young guy, that Nazi Germany was right wing? Just as an example.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. I mean, all the time, all through school.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. 100% why? Nazi Germany was not even just 50-50. It wasn't even just 80-20 left wing. Nazi Germany was 100% all the way right. Left wing.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, the Nazi stood for, what is it, the Socialist Party of Labor. Okay? That's what it stood for. They were, you know... They were big party, big government people. They were not little government. They were not for free expression, obviously. Conservatives are for free expression. They were not for small government. Conservatives are for small government. They were not for freeing up free enterprise. They would have the government run free enterprise. You had to be in the government's pocket.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, everywhere you looked in Nazi Germany was 100% left wing. And so you've had an entire generation of people in America who, just like you, because you're in that generation. All you heard was Nazi Germany, right wing.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Total lie. But by using Nazi Germany and other examples like it, they were able to say that the right is, you know, fascist, that the right is trying to control you. Donald Trump is a fascist. Once he gets in, he's going to control your life. Obviously, he's not. But that's what they want to say. He's going to control your life. I think something broke. And I think what broke is people watch the left in action over the last several years and especially during covid, but also with lawfare against Donald Trump. Right. It just seemed that anywhere the left could pull levers in their favor. How about Facebook? Right. Banning speech that they didn't like. And every time that you would put the word COVID in a post, it would come. Do you remember this? Right. You'd have a thing that Facebook would put on there giving the left wing perspective on COVID. OK. Anything they run, they use to control people. OK, right. I've always said that the definition of a conservative is this. We want to control our own lives, not yours. Period. And if a conservative starts to want to control your life, then they're not acting conservative. OK. And you can say, well, what about abortion? Well, at that point, we're trying to keep your one person's choice from taking away another person's choice. OK, that's right. And then you're in a debate about science and that's fine. But the heart of the conservative movement is personal liberty. the opponent of the liberal movement is personal liberty. And what I think people finally saw over the last several years was, especially during COVID, but also in a number of other ways, the left finally started showing its true colors and controlling people in every way, shape and form. I think people rejected totalitarianism. And I'm not even saying like Mussolini, I'm talking, but they use whatever power at hand. I think people rejected it. I think people are tired of being controlled. Even people like Bill Maher would castigate the left for doing these things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
What do you think? Do you think people are starting who believed that Nazi Germany and I'm broadening Nazi Germany to everything on the right. Right. That believe that Nazi Germany was right wing are starting to say, wait a minute, you've been telling us this for years, but it's your side doing all the controlling.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I think there's probably a lot of truth to that, in that people who are already politically minded, who are sort of in those spheres and are paying attention to stuff like policy and things that are happening, you know, at the state and the house and the presidency, I think the politically minded people are feeling that, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
We've sort of been lied to. Maybe I have a low opinion of most people, but in terms of like the voter base, I think
SPEAKER 07 :
You think too many people are not that politically connected?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think not too many people are that politically connected.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, but do they know when one side doesn't want you to have plastic trash bags at the supermarket, and one side wants to force you to drive this car, not that car, and one side wants to take your job away if you don't get a vaccine, and one side wants... I think a lot of that is still for the politically minded.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think most people... They don't assign that to a party. I think, at least in my opinion, I think a majority of people focus only so much in as whatever change directly impacts them. Someone can talk about wanting to change the car in the next 30 years. Most people aren't going to care until someone comes knocking on their door telling them to change their car. I think people feel the immediate effects of a thing, right? For the past four years, it's hard to buy groceries. People's paychecks don't go as far. They go, I don't like this. Well, this thing is currently happening under this administration. Get rid of that. Try something new. I think it's more basic.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm going to... I agree, but I'm going to add something to it. DEI. I think there's been a huge rejection of DEI. I think that's pretty obvious because companies are having to throw it out left and right. DEI, once again, is a control device of the left. It's bigotry enforced by the left. And people are rejecting any kind of control. So if people say to you, we are going to based not on merit, but based on their demographics, give advantages to this this person and thereby disadvantages to that person. Once again, that's reaching into their lives. That's controlling lives. And a lot of people have had friends and neighbors who have lost jobs because of this. Right. Who have lost promotions because of this, who have moved up because of this, who don't have opportunities because of this. I think that's an example of the left being using control and driving people nuts.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I think probably a lot of people were pretty twisted the wrong way because of a lot of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I just think that what we're seeing in Canada is a complete rejection of government power being used to control the people's lives because there you're shutting down churches. Canada was more intense than we are here. Hey, on the line right now, we got Jerry from Greeley. Jerry, would you like to jump in on this?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, sir. You know, you're talking about possibly projecting trends. And last week you said something about you thought that maybe we'd somewhat turn the corner on the woke garbage and that a lot of people were getting wise to that. Yeah. And I guess I'm more pessimistic overall. I think that the modern American public tends to be have very short memories, and I mean, the truth is that the right isn't as dedicated and devoted to their cause as the left, in my opinion. I mean, if you really dig into the history... No, I agree. Yeah, the left has been working at their Marxist revolution for a hundred years, and it's been subversive, behind-the-scenes, insidious poisoning of... of the minds of the younger people more and more and more. And that's not going to stop. They got really wild in 2020, and there was some backlash and pushback, and now they're kind of going back undercover a little bit. But they're not going to quit brainwashing the kids in the schools, which is a primary concern. They're just going to be a little less flagrant when they see that it's tactically advantageous to be less flagrant. And I, you know, most Americans don't read much anymore, but there's a couple of great books that show how we got where we are and kind of maybe help us see what to do to fight that. Next Gen Marxism by Gonzales and Gorka. And then America's Cultural Revolution by Christopher Rufo. And they detail the history of the long march through the institutions and all of the indoctrination that's that's gotten us where we are.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Jerry, just so you know, in case you don't know, and maybe you've already heard this about me, I come from the left. I was raised as a hardcore left-winger. Oh, really?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yes. I'm the only right-winger in my family line, the only Christian, the only all that stuff. And I was raised in the academic left. My dad was my school principal. He has a master's degree in education. My brother, master's degree in education. My whole family, hardcore left-wing activists. So, yeah, everything you're saying, true. You see, to them, the... Look, Luke is basically saying people on the right are not as in tune with us all the time. And a lot of people aren't always thinking politics all the time. But the people on the left, Jerry, are exactly what you say. To them, this is their religion. And they want to control everybody's lives. And they will not stop until they do. And they know that government is the greatest vehicle to do it with.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, and exactly. People, when modern Americans hear about communism, they immediately think of the economics. They don't understand that the revolutionary cause is to transform humanity. And, you know, they're not satisfied with live and let live. You know, you do what you want in your country, we'll do what we want in ours. They want to run the world as a communist society, and no sacrifice is too great to achieve that to the revolutionary hardcore.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Jerry, in fact, I'll tell you this, and I know this from my own family, but not just my family. A lot of leftists that I know, they will literally give up their own freedoms to take yours. They don't care. They will do anything, anything to limit the freedoms of other people. It's their drug. It is their high. It is everything to them. It's their religion. You know, and Jerry, I couldn't agree with you more.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I just wanted to throw that in. I'm glad to hear that you're kind of like another one of my favorite folks, David Horowitz, then, that you saw the light and came around. That's good to know.
SPEAKER 07 :
I love David Horowitz. Jerry, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you. Bye-bye.
SPEAKER 07 :
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. On the line right now, we've got Todd Watkins, who is the El Paso County Vice Chair for the GOP. Todd, how are you today? I am well, Andy. And yourself? I'm doing well. You know, we were just talking about Justin Trudeau having to step aside because, well, the people of Canada honestly got tired of him abusing power, trying to centralize power, trying to wield power over other people's lives, trying to control anyone who disagreed with him. And that's kind of one reason I want you on today. Because I know we've been talking a lot about the Colorado GOP. And for those who are saying, you know, you talk so much about the Colorado GOP. Folks, just so you know, this little movement that Todd, you know, Todd, you're one of the leaders of it. You really are. You're one of the leaders of this movement against the leadership of the Colorado GOP. And it's not because you want to be against them. It's because they've done a lot of things that we'll talk about here in a moment. But here's where the rubber hits the road. Todd, because of people like you calling out the state GOP and saying, look, they're steering us the wrong way. We just held the House of Representatives for Donald Trump. OK, if the state GOP had gotten their way, if they had been able to simply put out their endorsements for these House positions. and people have been so consumed with, well, gee, our leadership says that these are the right candidates. We should support them. We would now not have the House of Representatives. Donald Trump, his entire presidency would be derailed right now if it wasn't because the Colorado GOP lost in the primaries and better candidates beat them. And one big reason better candidates beat them is because of people like you, Todd, so take a bow.
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Well, thank you. I've certainly been blamed for all of this from the Colorado GOP. But yeah, I think it's important to note that those who won their races in Colorado, the four U.S. current Congressionals, the 22 in the State House, and the state senators, they won those races despite the Colorado Republican Party, not because of. So it's kind of It's comical at the very best for the Colorado GOP to proclaim victory, like we did real good. No, these candidates did real well despite your – most earnest efforts to defeat them and defame them.
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Well, and also, Todd, let's keep in mind, we were just part of a national red wave with Donald Trump. Donald Trump, between 2000 and 2024... increased his performance against the democrat by a full 6.2 percent the gap yeah he improved by 6.2 percent nationally against the democrat in colorado he only improved by 2.5 percent that's a 3.7 percent drop that's almost 60 percent we lost almost 60 percent of the national red wave here in colorado so look You know, and I will see people with the Colorado GOP literally go out and say this, and this blows my mind. It just makes me furious. They'll say, well, we gained more seats than we did in 2022 and 2020 and 2018. It's like those were blue wave years. This was a national red wave that they had nothing to do with. They had nothing to do with the national red wave, obviously, because it's national, right? They're only a state. And yet you underperformed the national red wave by 60 percent. And then you're bragging. Yes, of course, we gained a few seats, Todd. That's going to happen when your opponent, Kamala Harris, fails to churn a single district in the entire country. She didn't flip a single district in the entire country of the United States, Todd. And you don't think that you're going to gain a few seats? Of course you are. We did terrible, Todd. We did terrible.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And I'm going to say it again. The candidates won because of their efforts as candidates in their campaigns. Right. Not because of them.
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Yeah, it was because of their efforts and the red wave. I thought Gabe Evans and the rest of them ran great campaigns, and they did it by distancing themselves from the Colorado GOP. Todd, we're going to have to take a break here in a moment, but really quick here. What are we going to be talking about after the break? Because the Colorado GOP, aren't they now trying to put through a number of bylaw changes that will consolidate their power and basically use power to go after their enemies, just like Trudeau did in Canada.
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Yes, six of them. They're forming a Politburo.
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Okay, let's take a break. When we come back, I want you to walk us through very quickly these bylaw changes, because I know people are thinking, oh, gee, that sounds kind of dry. It's not dry. This is only happening in one out of 50 states. This is incredibly unusual, what you're about to hear. They are going to be using bylaws to hurt people. Okay, and I want Todd to talk about it when we come back from the break. Up next is Cub Creek Heating and Air. Winners here and with it, heating emergencies. Have this number ready, 303-656-5467. That's Cub Creek at 303-656-5467.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Luke Cash. And on the line right now we've got Todd Watkins. Todd, what's going on? What is the state party proposing in bylaw changes to consolidate power?
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It's really six bylaw amendments. That systematically, they're kind of a package deal. One complements the other in shrinking the number of members who are voting members in the central committee and consolidating power, decision-making power, in the very exclusive...
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very loyal to the chair executive committee yeah now for those who don't understand really quick todd uh the executive committee small group and that's the group right around dave williams and the more you if you're if you want to be a big fish in a small pond you shrink the pond and so what they're doing right now is trying to shrink the influence of the scc the wider group that's over 400 members and increase the power around dave go ahead
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So, and it's also, I re this is a really important point to make is. This meeting is going to happen on January 30th, beginning January or February 1st to February 15th, all of the counties and the vast majority of the, uh, uh, representative districts have their meetings to elect new officers. And then between March 1st and March 15th, the state party is going to have its meeting to elect. new officers. So really, this is the outgoing administration making broad sweeping radical changes to the governing document of the body in this final hours.
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Okay, so give me some changes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Reducing the participation of elected officials. So your congressmen, state senators, house reps, district attorneys, state level officials if we had any like governor secretary of state etc these people are all in state statute given a vote in the central committee the central committee is actually established in state law it says who shall be uh members of this okay so so that they are among the voting members who can vote on who is chair who isn't chair
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Okay, in case people are, or, you know, what kind of changes you'll make, what kind of power the chair can have. These are people who can vote on that. So what do they want to do with these people, these elected members who are on the SEC?
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So each category of elected official, whether it's U.S. Rep, House Rep, State Rep, State Senate, they get to delegate one person to be the voting member in the Central Committee, it would reduce the number of votes in the Central Committee by, I think it's 40 plus, probably close to 50.
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And currently, that group is a group that is very anti Dave in general, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, like, I would say 95 plus percent.
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Okay, so night. So here you got a group that's about 95% opposed to Dave Williams, and his cadre. And they want to reduce their number of votes from about 40 to about six.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gosh. I mean, that's simple math, even for someone like me. Wow.
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Okay, that's horrifying. Okay, and especially since when you consider the SEC is very divided, if you take away 30-plus votes on one side, you're basically giving victory to the other. Did they also put in a bylaw change that almost directly affects you?
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Yeah, if you participated in a campaign uprising against the chair. Uprising. Yeah, I forget the words in it, but if failed litigation against the chair and they cite a particular case that we were involved in, then you cannot be, you're suspended. Your rights and privileges as a central committee member are suspended and unless you pay restitution to the party. So it's basically blackmail extortion.
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Pay restitution like actual money?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
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Okay, so basically, since you oppose the leadership of the Colorado Republican Party, and by the way, thank you for doing that, since you did that and they had to incur legal costs because you battled back and forth legally, but you had to incur them too, they basically want you to pay their legal fees, right? And give them money, and otherwise you don't have a vote.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, yeah.
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But you legally have a vote. You were elected into your position, and you're still in it.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's correct. And as I said before, the membership of the central committee is established by state law. Right. And county chairs and county vice chairs are required by state law to be in the central committee. So they don't really have a legal leg to stand on to suspend us. There's no provision for that. This is inventing something. And I'd also like to point out that it's kind of ex post facto. Right there. They're creating a type of legislation within the party to affect something that happened before. Right.
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They're not they're not saying, gee, if you do this, we're going to do this to you. What they're saying is anyone who did this, we're going to do this to you. Okay, so there again, once again, they're trying to remove some voting members, in this case you and one other member, I believe. So remove a couple more from voting against them.
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And the way that bylaw amendment is written, they can expand it to anybody else who may have, you know, aided and abetted. So I suspect that they're probably going to try to do that.
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more than uh you know me and the other there will probably be you know six seven eight more that they'll come after as you know chairs vice chairs okay so they we we've already got that they want to get rid of basically three dozen with one rule of the votes against them and with this they want to get rid of several more of the votes against them now we're well over 40 votes against them that they want to basically get rid of simply by changing the bylaws okay what else you got
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Well, that actually comprised – there's also a – remember how the bylaw that allows to pick sides in the primary? Yeah. They're also writing a bylaw that says that they must support the Republican who was nominated in the assembly. So I assume that this is really kind of steered at a particular – chair who wants to go to Congress and ensure that the party is supportive of his aim to get into Congress and encumber the party to support and move for that candidate should he find himself on a ballot for Congress.
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Yeah, this is ridiculous. Look, the Colorado GOP should not be endorsing in primaries, period. And then once the primaries have completed, they should be supporting all of our candidates that were chosen in the primaries, period. Why? Because they are there to serve our candidates. They are not there to choose our candidates. That's kind of my job as a voter.
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Yeah, really the party is supposed to kind of set the framework in the environment for candidates to come in uh appeal to the electorate the electorate then picks who goes forward and the party just makes sure all that machinery works smoothly and fairly and efficiently to get people onto the ballot and then the people get to decide not the party this is a hundred percent the party is going to decide everything for you and even if you're not a part of this any of these committees understand that this is going to impact you when it comes time for another ballot because that the person on that ballot will have been kind of engineered by what I would argue is a rather radical version of conservatism, if you could even call it conservatism at this point.
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Todd, can you give any other reason that people would want to put forth rules like this other than they want to consolidate power with them?
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Consolidate power and remain in power. That's important, too. It's not just consolidating it. They want to remain in power.
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See, Todd, we're talking about the same people who a year ago, September, tried to put through a rule to where everybody, you know, when you would have the meetings, you get together and have the big meetings, the assemblies and anybody who didn't attend, who didn't cast a vote. So they're a non-vote. would be declared a yes vote for the chair's agenda. Okay? They literally tried to churn. No, no, they literally tried to churn. They're proud of it. I'm not accusing them of this, folks. They're proud of it. They defend this. Okay? They literally tried to churn everybody's non-votes into yes votes for their agenda. Nobody's ever done. Here's why this is so important, Todd. No one in Colorado GOP history has ever tried to do any of this. This is brand new.
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Go ahead. I don't think that's over or done with. I think that's going to come back. And that's another aspect of the, you know, culling the herd of voters within the central committee, because it's the central committee who's going to vote on opting out of the primary. And this gets back to the assembly, the assembly candidates, supporting the assembly candidate, picking sides. It's all tailored to that. And there's a very specific end game that I think I see happening. That that's constructed by all this.
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Well, that's pretty bad. OK, I mean, look, and by the way, they want to opt out of the open primary. And John and I've been saying this for well over a year. They're crazy. OK, first of all, the over the overwhelming majority of unaffiliated voters in Colorado voted to. keep the open primary. I'm not a fan of the open primary. Never have been. I like closed primaries. I like only Republicans choosing Republican candidates. But Colorado chose otherwise. Now, half the voters in the state are unaffiliated. Do we really want to tell half the voters in the state, get off our lawn? The Democrats love you, but we don't. And by the way, if we do that, Todd, understand. Let's say we opted out of the primary. People don't seem to understand this. That open primary ballot would still go out, but it would become free advertising for the Democrats because to all the unaffiliated voters in the state, they would get a ballot that only has Democrat names on it. OK, and we would be opting ourselves out of it. Also, these people can get out of a primary. Why do they want to get out of a primary? Because they lose in every primary. Dave Williams lost by over 30 points in his primary. They can't win primaries, so they want to get out. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So they get their people, Dave, on the ballot in a safely Republican district so that he goes to Congress. That's the endgame here. But they already used Dave as a selling point, not the Democrat Party candidate. specifically but if you remember uh the was a prop 131 this last go around the jungle primary and i believe so yes yeah they actually use dave as their poster child for you know the political insider picking candidates for you they already use that oh yeah i believe dave williams made prop 131 a closer vote
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I really do. And, you know, I know this just sounds like, oh, Andy hates Dave Williams. You know what? I don't even know Dave Williams. It's nothing personal. I hate power plays. I hate abuse of power. I have nothing against this person personally. I don't even know him. I've never met him. I know you have, but I haven't. Okay. I don't want people in power to abuse that power. I want the choices to be left up to the voters.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, and that's the Colorado GOP in its current iteration does not like what the people have to say. So they want to make sure that the people have a less chance of influencing that by calling the central committee and solidifying power in a very select few that decide what goes forward. Because, you know, as I said before, you may not be a member of any of these committees, but understand what comes out of the committee. That limits your decisions. The Republican Party makes decisions as to who goes on the ballot. You don't get much of a say in that anymore, and you're going to be presented a very small set of choices.
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And that's where your government is going to go. Todd, I'm just going to say this. Going forward, it's very simple. I don't care if you're pro-Dave, anti-Dave, you don't care about Dave, you know, you're in neither group. I don't care, okay? Nobody should be purging anyone else out of the process. Nobody should be ginning up leverage with bylaw changes to try to get their opponents or people they don't like out of the way, out of the vote. You need to leave it up to the people. If the people want to choose Dave Williams again for our party chair, it'll be a disaster, of course. But if they want to do that... If they want to lose 60% of the next red wave and do that again, fine. It's up to them. But I would not go in. Let's say I was up there. I would not go in and try to get all the Dave supporters purged out. I wouldn't. I wouldn't do anything. I want them there able to speak freely, vote freely, act freely. And if they want to, let's say I were the chair, if they want to bring forward, you know, a vote against me of no confidence and say, gee, we want Andy Pate out of being chair, I wouldn't do anything to stop them. Have the vote. Because if you get a majority that votes that doesn't want me as chair, then I shouldn't be leading them. Right, Todd?
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We thought so.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I mean, ultimately, you know, this this idea that you guys were trying to do some illegal coup, by the way, it wasn't illegal. The courts ruled that it was a perfectly legal vote. But this idea that you should somehow be punished for doing something perfectly legal, it doesn't make any sense. And that's what I want to leave you with today, Todd, is just thank you so much for what you're doing. And I just wish people would understand we shouldn't be purging anyone on either side of the aisle in the Republican Party. Everybody should have a free voice. Nobody should be leveraged out. Right, Todd?
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That's absolutely correct.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Luke Cash. Man. Okay, Luke, got a quick question for you here to close out the hour. This Friday, Donald Trump is going to be sentenced for ludicrous charges. But the whole idea is to make him the felon president. That's why they're doing it before he takes office. Let me ask you a question. Does he mind?
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I think he should mind. I think it's one thing for Donald Trump to be very Donald Trump about it and go, yeah, you know, it's whatever and play into the role. I think on the national stage, that's going to mean something to people. I think, you know, foreign governments are going to care. And I think he needs to consider that moving forward.
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Do you think so? Because, I mean, remember the mugshot? He turned the mugshot into a publicity goldmine.
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Yeah, he turned it into a publicity goldmine for us, the American people. Other countries who don't know us, who don't know our culture, are going to see him, see that he's been convicted and sentenced in a court of our law as a felon. I think other countries are going to worry about that. I think he needs to be aware of that perception.
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But I think the American people, I agree with you, there is a downside to it. But I also think the American people rejected that verdict, obviously. They looked at the verdict and said, I mean, if they agreed with that verdict, they wouldn't have voted him in. So obviously the American people looked at that verdict and we said, we disagree. And now he gets to be... The bad boy. He gets to be the felon. He gets to be, like I said with the mugshot, he gets to say, I think he's going to eat it up.
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You think so?
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Because he loves victimhood. He's big into merit, but he loves victimhood. Look at what they're doing to me. Look at what they're doing to me. Look at what they're doing to me. He's going to have a ball with this and say, look at how mean and terrible and corrupt they are. I'm the anti-corruption president. I'm going to come in and sweep this out.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. I could see it going that way, too.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just... No, I think you make a good point, though, in that it may... On the world stage... hurt him a little bit.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think it'll impact him.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm just saying I think he personally will eat it up. Fair enough. It's just his way.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's very his style.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's his style. Okay, folks, that's it for our number one. In our two, we may have Richard Rush calling in on sports. He's very busy today. We'll see if he does. Otherwise, we're going to be talking a lot about Trump, his cabinet, and a lot of things that are coming up. I'm getting very excited. What has you most excited about Trump's presidency? Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And welcome to hour number three here on Rushed Reason. I'm Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. Just one more hour. John's going to be back tomorrow. We are all very excited. I'm sure we'll hear a lot about his trip. On the line right now, we got Jersey Joe. Joe, how you doing? I'm doing okay. How you doing? Doing all right. Doing all right. And how's that pretty wife of yours doing? She is doing magnificently well, as she always is. Joe, before we go any further, how can people read your stuff and hear your stuff?
SPEAKER 14 :
If they want to read it, they should go to the JerseyJoe.com website. Just remember to spell Jersey, J-E-R-Z-E-E. That's an R-Z to E's, JerseyJoe.com. If you want to be put on my mailing list, just send me an email to Joe at JerseyJoe.com. If you want to listen to my weekly 30-minute podcast, you can find it on any of the major podcast platforms, including Apple or Spotify. Just search for The Situation with Jersey Joe. Just remember to spell Jersey J-E-R-Z-E-E. And you can listen to it audio only. But if you go to my website, I talk about a lot of things. I play a lot of clips. I reference a lot of documents. If you want to see those links, you'll need to go to the website, JerseyJoe.com, where you can actually... In fact, we're going to play some of those clips tonight, and some of the facial expressions of the people are worth going there to just watch the video instead of just listening to the audio. So I urge people to go to JerseyJoe.com.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, and Joe, before we get into your stuff, I want to touch on how I ended the last hour because I want to ask you this too. Donald Trump is about to take office. What has you the most excited? And let me throw one thing in that I forgot to throw in at the end of hour two. Energy. Drill, baby, drill. I am so excited. I am so furious. with Biden closing down more of our offshore drilling. Granted, it was in areas that we're not going to explore much anyway. My wife told me that. She's in oil and gas. But it's still annoying. We shouldn't be closing down any of it. We should be opening up all of it. And I'm furious. I am so excited that we are going to expand our oil and gas and start getting back to real energy. And I also am excited because I know it's going to be hard on China and I think they deserve it because China is cornering the market on green energy worldwide because they're cornering the market on all the materials you need for batteries. Right. And it's going to be really tough for them. China was absolutely banking on Trump losing this election. This is going to be very hard for them. I'm excited. So Jersey Joe, what is you most excited about Donald Trump coming back to office?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it hasn't happened yet, but I suspect at the end of this Supreme Court term, you're going to hear Clarence Thomas announcing his resignation, and quite possibly Sam Alito at the same time. So again, I'm very excited about Trump and energy, and hopefully the XL pipeline will be reopened. So I'm excited about seeing energy prices come down. I'm seeing about America become dominant again. I'm also excited about reducing the size of our annual budget deficit. I'd like to see a lot of, between Ramaswamy and Musk, about cutting down the size of the government. That has me excited.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, one second. Before you race on, though, I want to go back to one because I agree. In my opinion, Alito and Thomas need to retire soon. In the next eight months. Yep. They need to retire while we have this Senate. Well, it's going to be an easy confirmation and we can get their replacements in place. They need to do it for the country. And I know that's that's exactly what the left said to what's her name? Gosh, what was her name?
SPEAKER 14 :
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That's what the left was saying to her. Well, you know what? They were right. And she sold out her side by not doing that. You need to step down when you have an opportunity like this. You've got your president who's going to share your beliefs and is going to put in somebody who is going to be close to your views. And you've also got a Senate on your side. You cannot let that opportunity go away.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, because in two years, we're going to have another midterm election. Right. And there's going to be about 33 Senate seats up for election. And if we lose two seats in the Senate, we lose the ability to confirm Supreme Court justices. So Alito and Thomas need to announce their retirement at the end of this term in June of next year.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think they do, too. Man, if they do, that'll be fantastic. I sure hope they do. Okay. Continue on, sir.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well... By the way, Charlie said he needed some time to tee up some of the clips. I've got a bunch of clips I want to play tonight.
SPEAKER 18 :
Charlie says he is ready.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, let's go. Let's start with – and these are some of the ones you're going to watch. There's a – I don't know if you watched the New Year's Eve with Andy Cohen. He's the guy that hosts the Real Housewives series and Anderson Cooper. And they had a female comedian, Whitney Cummings. And they asked her – they were asking each other, well, looking back at 2024 – And she went on this very, very brief, her take on 2024, and she makes reference to, remember the movie Weekend at Bernie's where they were propping people up? Yeah. And she makes reference to Pfizer and Viagra. So, Charlie, can we play that? And so listen very, very closely to her talking about how the Democrats bungled the 2024 election. Charlie, can we play that? It just needs the first 48 seconds, I think. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 24 :
Ah, well, we hope you enjoyed 2024's New Year's Eve roast. No, we're not talking about the food. We're talking about comedian Whitney Cummings, who went after President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris on CNN's New Year's Eve live special with Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen. Let's watch.
SPEAKER 27 :
2024 election fried our brains. The Democrats couldn't hold a primary because they were too busy holding a body upright. Are we still rolling? Am I off? Go for it. It was amazing that the pro-choice party didn't give their voters one when it came to the presidential candidate. Kamala was forced on us so hard you'd think she was patented by Pfizer or Moderna, whichever one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. They were so busy propping up Biden, of course, to reference the weekend with Bernie. And then her reference, you'd think Kamala Harris, they forced her like she was patented by Pfizer, which is a reference to Viagra.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know what really gets me about this, Joe? They're all complaining about Joe Biden right now. All right. They're complaining about it. And I understand Joe Biden was mentally gone. And that's one thing that hurt him as a candidate. But the main thing that hurt him was the failure of his policies. And all of his policies were everything they wanted. Joe Biden became nothing but a rubber stamp for the hard left, for all these people who are attacking him right now and blaming him for their loss.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and you say his policy. I think you're right. They weren't. And you're aware of all the the the black SUVs that were back and forth between Obama's Georgetown resident in the White House, almost on a daily occurrence. You're aware of those, right? I mean, they had his staff going over to Obama's residence.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
They were coming back and they were telling Biden, here's what you're going to say. Here's the bill you're going to sign. Here's what you're going to propose. So it wasn't really Biden's policies. Again, he was he was the he was the puppet. He was the puppet for Obama and the rest of Obama's staff, the holdover.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that the left is going to succeed at trying to characterize their problems as being because of one man? Now, I know they can't totally succeed, but do you think they'll be able to succeed in characterizing a lot of their problems as being because of one man and put it all on Joe Biden, just like the left up in Canada is trying to put it all off on Trudeau?
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, there's always, you know, the U.S. population, we're not a monolith. You know, you've got those that are aware and alert enough, like the listeners to this show, that won't swallow that. Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
But what about the people in the middle?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think, unfortunately, there's people in the middle. You know, I spend time on these social media sites. There's an incredibly number of uninformed people who disbelieve whatever the media feeds them, which is why, by the way, I call my podcast News in Perspective You Won't Hear on TV because... Number one, they're news stories you'll never hear about, or two, you'll hear the story, but you'll only hear the side the media wants you to hear. And I've got a couple of clips today where you're going to hear exact examples of that. So unfortunately, I'm going to say about at least half the middle will believe what they're told. and 100% of the Democrats will accept it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I think the Democrats are looking for, the old word is scapegoat. Scapegoat. And they should be looking in the mirror. They should be looking in the mirror because let's face it, Joe, their policies failed, okay? They opened up the border entirely and we were overrun. People are upset. They put in policies that drove up the prices of everything you buy. Here in Colorado, we're paying a zillion dollars for eggs. Why? Directly because of Colorado legislators.
SPEAKER 14 :
Cage-free chicken.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, everything has to be cage-free. Guess what? That's a lot more expensive. And they put it through. You know, my opinion, really quick here, I wish Republicans would start speaking more like this. Other people shouldn't make you pay for their activism. If they want to choose cage-free eggs, they should be able to, but why should you pay for their activism? Maybe you have a different thing that you want to be into.
SPEAKER 14 :
Go ahead. By the way, you know, the comedian Penn Jillette talks about, it was in reference, he talks about charity at the point of a gun. He said a lot of people feel this sense of moral superiority because they They get legislation passed that force other people to do other things like, you know, poverty programs and this. The same thing with cage-free eggs. So many people out there get this sense of moral superiority because, well, I got this piece of legislation passed that's going to do away with chickens in cages, and they feel great about it. Well, and, of course, once they get that passed, if you don't comply, if you're a grocer and you don't comply and you resist, you know, when they come and tell you you have to stop and you resist, they eventually come and send the police in there. with guns to arrest you. Right. And it's, you know, so it's this moral superiority at the point of a gun that I object to. If you don't want to buy eggs from chicken kept in cages... By the way, here's one thing on that, by the way. Chickens that are kept in open pens, bird flu is spread by the droppings of wild birds. So when you have chickens in pens, outdoor pens, and wild birds... roost on the top of the chicken wire and crap in those pens, that's how domestic chickens get bird flu.
SPEAKER 18 :
I did not know that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, now you know.
SPEAKER 18 :
But I don't think in those disgusting terms.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, but that's, you know, law of unintended consequences, by the way. But that's how bird flu... is transmitted from wild chickens to domesticated chickens, from wild birds to domesticated chickens.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think what it comes down to is that a lot of Americans are getting really, really sick of people in power making everybody pay for a small group's activism. You really want green energy. You're going to make everybody pay for your green energy. You really want cage-free chickens. You're going to make everybody pay for the price of eggs that you want for your activism. And it's like recycling in an HOA. The people who want recycling in an HOA make everybody else pay for their activism. It drives people nuts, and I think Americans are turning away from it.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's called the tyranny of the minority. Yes. And I think, you know, same thing with bike lanes and whatnot.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, yes. Yes, because you've got gridlock all over Denver that is so much worse because of these lanes that nobody's in that you could have cars going down.
SPEAKER 14 :
The tyranny of the minority, whether it's cage-free eggs, whether it's bike lanes or, you know, all these other taxis, you know, that only benefits certain small groups. And again, it's people that you didn't vote for, you know, telling you what you have to do. Again, if you don't want to buy eggs from chickens that were in cages, don't buy the cage and let the free market, let the free market decide what, you know, how much of which type of eggs gets sold.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, you know what? And let's close out this segment with this. I believe that Americans are going to see over the next four years that way fewer Americans decisions made by the majority are going to affect their lives, control their lives in that way. And so people, even people on the left are going to realize, wait a minute, Donald Trump is not going to come in and make me buy this or that or live this or that because he's in office. Donald Trump's not going to try to control your life like all these leftists did through Joe Biden. Is that fair?
SPEAKER 14 :
Government that governs best governs least.
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SPEAKER 15 :
Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush. And welcome back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 18 :
Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLC 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. And we got Jersey Joe on the line. Joe, what do you got for us?
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. I want to talk about the farce that was attempted to be perpetrated on the American people. Now, we've all seen over the past 14, 15 months the mental decline of Biden. Right. And coincidentally, Saturday Night Live is on holiday break. And so they ran a rerun this past Saturday. And the rerun was from October of 2023. And I just happened, you know, because I always kind of watch it just to see what the other side is talking about. And in October of 2023, the opening skit was a biting satire of Biden's mental decline. So even in October 23, even Saturday Night Live have turned on him, and they were highlighting his mental decline and how feeble he was. And yet, Charlie's got a clip of a bunch of, this is Pelosi, Schumer, Kareem Jean-Pierre, his Secretary of State, all telling the American people and all these meet the press, face the nation, how sharp Biden is. And this was, I mean, I'm angry that they covered for him. So can we play this clip of all these people telling, lying to us about how sharp Biden is?
SPEAKER 05 :
Here we go. Does the president have the stamina physically and mentally, do you think, to continue on even after 2024?
SPEAKER 21 :
Don, you're asking me this question. Oh, my gosh. He's the president of the United States. You know, he I can't even keep up with him.
SPEAKER 11 :
The most difficult part about a meeting with President Biden is preparing for it. because he is sharp, intensely probing, and detail-oriented and focused.
SPEAKER 09 :
I can testify, because I've been working very closely with this president for the past two years. I've been knowing him for 30 years. And I'm telling you, this guy's tough, he's smart, he's on his game. Joe Biden has vision, he has knowledge, he has...
SPEAKER 23 :
a strategic thinker.
SPEAKER 25 :
The president is focused. He's detail-oriented. He's always thinking about the big picture. He is engaging. He is capable. He has an incredible record as president.
SPEAKER 23 :
And I'm often with him on foreign trips. He's at the top of his game. So he has a vision. He has knowledge. He has judgment. He has a strategic thinking.
SPEAKER 08 :
I met with the president, I don't know, five or six weeks ago, and he seemed fine to me. I have complete confidence in the president. I have watched him expertly guide meetings of staff and cabinet members. I could not have more confidence in the president.
SPEAKER 34 :
I would just tell you that I meet frequently with the president, and every single time I meet with him, he is just fine.
SPEAKER 23 :
But he is, again, knowledgeable, wise.
SPEAKER 11 :
Incredibly sharp, incredibly probing, incredible command of the details. He is sharp.
SPEAKER 17 :
He is on top of things. There is nothing to these challenges, these suggestions that somehow he's not sharp and he's not capable.
SPEAKER 22 :
We see Joe Biden up close. We know how attuned he is to the issue. And you're going to see how smart he is and the experience he has. I say his age is an asset. He's wise. Yes, he's wise. He has wisdom.
SPEAKER 03 :
He has experience. And his experience, because of his age and his wisdom, has been invaluable to this country. A lot of countries, people who've been in office a longer period of time are praised for their wisdom.
SPEAKER 01 :
I have seen a lot of 72-year-olds not as capable as this 80-year-old.
SPEAKER 21 :
It is hard for us to keep up with this president.
SPEAKER 12 :
His mental acuity is great. It's fine. It's as good as it's been over the years. He's fine. All this right-wing propaganda that his mental acuity has declined is wrong.
SPEAKER 09 :
And this kind of sense that he's not ready for this job is just a bucket of BS that's so deep, your boots will get stuck in.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, Joe, that reminds me of when Jill said to Joe after his debate, and you answered all the questions. Yeah. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 14 :
Is there another Joe Biden we're not aware of? Because clearly that's not the guy we all saw for the past year and a half. I mean, and how can they in good conscience as public service stand up and lie to the American people like that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that the American people simply find the Democrat party to be even more dishonest just because of their cover up for Joe?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think so. And this goes back to that comment by the committee, that woman, Whitney Cummings, you know, propping up Joe Biden. That's what they were literally doing was propping him up because we all know that not a single word of what they said in that last two and a half minute clip was true. It was just one continuous lie. It was the party line. And I don't know how they in good conscience just kept repeating that nonsense.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, as bad as Kamala did in this election, I honestly believe Joe would have lost worse.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think you're right. I think Joe, the American people, I think, You know, they saw with their own eyes how unfit he was for office. And I think, you know, I know some Democrats wouldn't have voted for him.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that the Democrats are going to have a hard time dealing with Trump? And what I mean is this. In his first time around, they were able to pick him apart and slow him down, you know, with lawfare and all kinds of accusations. Obviously, Russia, Russia, Russia.
SPEAKER 14 :
uh i don't know that they it just seems to me they've shot everything out of their quiver what are they going to use on him this time around um you know right now they're saying well his tax cuts you know we're going to add trillions to the deficit and whatnot now his by the way the people don't care yeah they don't care so unless he screws up royally um You know, I think right now they're all predicting that it's going to be the tariffs are going to raise the cost of goods for the American people. And I think they're crossing their fingers and hoping. Now, you and I both know that Trump is using the threat of tariffs. Right. As a negotiating level. I don't think he actually intends to do it. You know, he may. By the way, I think we'll see some.
SPEAKER 18 :
Just so you know, I think we'll see some out of the gate with places like China and so forth. But that is to start the negotiating.
SPEAKER 14 :
Start the negotiation. But, you know, there's a bunch of Trump tariffs in place. that Biden could have revoked, but he didn't. He left him in place. So unless Trump screws up, I think the Democrats are going to be sucking wind, I think it is, in terms of the phrase, in terms of trying to find something to criticize him about.
SPEAKER 18 :
Really quick, before we go to break, what do you think Trump's election is going to do to China, flat out?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you know, we already talked about, you know, he's going to kill all the EV mandates, so that's going to put a big dent in China's export economy. Huge. Huge. Huge. I think China's going to have to be a lot less hostile to not only the United States, but to places like Taiwan. Their economy is in the toilet right now, and they need us more than we need them. All right.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I think, look, I'm just going to say this. I think China's in a hard way. I think they really are. I think it's going to be awful for them because, mostly because of green energy. Okay? They were so reliant on America pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing this green energy scam and getting more and more into electric cars, which we can't afford. We don't have a grid for. It doesn't matter. They were so reliant on that and on that market for green energy. My goodness, I don't know how they prop it up because they've already killed themselves with housing.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, they are continuing to build coal-fired power plants at the rate of one a week. Oh, yeah. They are now the world's largest consumer of coal.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think we're going to get back to coal at all? And also, do you think we'll expand nuclear? Because I think we should.
SPEAKER 14 :
Nuclear and natural gas, and we should not expand coal, and we should let, as the existing coal plants age, we should let them die out.
SPEAKER 18 :
You really think so? I think we can burn coal much more cleanly now. I think coal's good.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. But I'm not saying build new ones. I'm not saying shut them down. But if I have a choice between natural gas, which is plentiful and doesn't... It is. Because with coal, you do have the ash residue from coal, and you've got these big... You've seen these big ash things. Right. I think natural gas. If I have to choose between natural gas and coal, I'm going to go natural gas.
SPEAKER 18 :
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, who's back tomorrow. I'm on the line right now. We've got Jersey Joe. Joe, how can people once again hear your stuff?
SPEAKER 14 :
If you just want to listen to the podcast, you go to Spotify or Apple Podcasts and just search for Jersey Joe, J-E-R-Z-E-E, JerseyJoe.com. And you can hear the audio. If you want to see the video along with you'll find the notes and links to some of the things I talk about, go to the Jersey Joe website at jerseyjoe.com. Just remember to spell Jersey with an R, a Z, and two E's.
SPEAKER 18 :
One last question, because I've been asking Luke this during the show. Do you see a trend in the West away from big government, away from government power? Do you see a trend? Do you see a rise of the individual, individual liberty in the West after what's happened in Canada and what's happened in America?
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the West, you mean the Western Hemisphere?
SPEAKER 18 :
I do, because we're also seeing it in Argentina. We're seeing it in spots all over.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think, yes, absolutely. When you consider the Western Hemisphere, including South America and Canada, and of course the U.S. with the election of Trump, absolutely, I think there's a trend, a very strong trend, away from progressivism and socialism towards conservatism, absolutely.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, what do you got next?
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, I'm going to talk about media bias now. I don't know if you've heard... Oh, there's no such thing, Joe.
SPEAKER 18 :
How can you say that?
SPEAKER 14 :
I've got another clip I'm going to ask Charlie to play in a minute. You may not have heard this, but in New York City, there was a U.S. postal worker, and every day on his route, there was a deli where he would stop and grab a sandwich, because in New York City, that's where you get your lunch. The deli makes you a sandwich. And he got into an argument with another patron in the deli over whose turn was it for their order next, and that other patron stabbed him to death. Now, this is the news, and by the way, I looked at four or five different
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, Kathy Hochul would say that's a perfectly safe deli.
SPEAKER 14 :
Perfectly safe. Anyway, CBS, ABC, NBC all reported this stabbing, and they kept referring to the attacker who stabbed this poker worker to death over a place in line as the woman and she. So, Charlie, can you play that clip, please?
SPEAKER 13 :
New details surrounding the stabbing death of a U.S. postal worker in a deli. Police have identified the 24-year-old suspect, who's charged with second-degree murder. An employee also tells us the two were regular customers who had no history of disputes in the past. Christy Kalijian has the story from Harlem.
SPEAKER 30 :
we're hearing from an employee who tells us exactly how this all unfolded he says it started right here while the two were waiting in line fighting over who was first in line then that argument spilled over here to where the coffee machine is and got physical and here's some new video of 24 year old jaya cruz who police identified as uh who allegedly stabbed to death 36 year old ray hodges a u.s postal worker and this employee tells us that it seemed as though hodges was here first And then Cruz crossed in front of him, and it sparked a whole argument. Here, take a listen to what he said.
SPEAKER 28 :
I separated them. The male guy in the front, the lady, she was in the back. She's spilling him in his face. And the male guy, he get mad because she spilled him. So he was lemon juice mixed with a coffee machine. He throw on her. So she took the knife. This is so bad. This is my first time I see this happen from my face.
SPEAKER 30 :
And this all unfolded yesterday at around 2.30. We also heard from a teacher at a nearby school who says they had to go into lockdown, which is customary for any sort of dangerous situation. out here but of course it was very scary for her and the nearby community was all just shocked over this violent incident that happened right here and also hearing from the USPS that issued a statement saying that it is looking out for the safety and well-being of its employees and that it is working diligently with the NYPD as they investigate the situation. In Harlem Christy Kalishian CBS News New York.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe I trust every word I just heard.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now let me tell you if you look at the video by the way She towers over the cops. She was at least 6'6". She was not a she. Now, and the way you know that is four hours before the evening news came on. That was from the evening news. The New York Post, which is a newspaper, ran this story. It says Hodges was on the job Thursday when he was senselessly murdered for cutting by a, quote, woman on the deli line. Sources previously told the Post that Jaya Cruz... who has been described by cops as a transgender woman, had a history of threatening victims with box cutters before he allegedly killed a father or two. So it was a documented fact that this person was a man, yet they can, every single network news show refer to her as a, well, they refer to the killer as a woman and she. Why didn't they think it was relevant to say it was a transgender woman
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, because look, because they advocate when any time the left advocates for the rights of any group, it doesn't matter which one. Right. And it could be, in this case, transgenders. Then they need to hide any sins or crimes committed by that group.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And that's again, this is the bias of the media. And by the way, when I first saw the when I first saw the video, I didn't read the post report till after I saw the news. And I'm looking at the cops, you know, leaving the police station. There's one on either side of him. And he's easily six inches taller than either cop. And I'm going, that's a woman? And then I read the Post story. No, it wasn't a woman. But yet, every single network news story reported her as a woman and she. Not as even a transgender.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, let me tell you something, Joe. When you kill somebody, I really don't care what you want to be called. I'm just going to call you what you are. And I know in California... Wasn't it in California where they're saying that it can be actually a crime in like the penal system or whatever to not refer to people by?
SPEAKER 14 :
By their preferred pronouns.
SPEAKER 18 :
By their preferred pronouns. You know what I say? I don't care what your preferred pronoun is. Honestly, I don't care anything about you. You hurt people. You kill people. You rob people. You know what your rights are? Nothing. You shouldn't have committed crimes. And don't tell me how I'm going to refer to you. I'll refer to you as anything I want because you hurt people. I go my entire life and not hurt people. You can do the same.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. By the way, on the topic of, I'm going to segue into a different, this was not in my sequence, but... Go ahead. Talk about killing people. Every year, you know, there's a website called the Officer Down Memorial Page. It's odmp.org. Again, odmp.org, not com. Officer Down Memorial Page. And every year, throughout the year, they keep a list of all the police officers who die in the line of duty now. Last year, 144 law enforcement officers died. Some died in vehicle accidents. Some had heart attacks on the jobs. But 48 were murdered. And every year, I look at, number one, how many were murdered and who killed them. And unfortunately, there's a trend which has not changed. Let me give you the stats from this year. Of those 48, and that's basically one a week. Cops in this country are getting murdered at the rate of one a week. And so I compile a summary of who the cop was, where he worked. You know, the date of his death. And then I put the name of the assailant. And here's what I came out. This is the demographics of who's killing our cops. The number of Asian assailants who killed a police officer, zero. Number of Hispanics who killed a cop, two, which is 2.3%. Number of white Caucasian assailants, 20 out of 48. Wow.
SPEAKER 18 :
Whoa, no, no, no. That's really low because white people make up over 60% of the country.
SPEAKER 14 :
66% of the country. And the remaining group, which makes 12.5% of the population African Americans, were responsible for 26 of those 48, which is 54.2%.
SPEAKER 18 :
Holy smokes! So 12.5% of the country killed well over 50% of the cops.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Intentionally killed, intentionally murdered over 54% of the cops. And unfortunately, this is not an anomaly for this year. This is not an anomaly. Andy, I don't know the reason why. We don't have time to speak. That could take up a whole show as to why this particular demographic is so violent in terms of their interaction with law enforcement officers.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, no, no, no, no, no. Let's take a step back. We've got a moment. That demographic is more violent in general. That demographic does a tremendously inordinate amount of the killing. And it's not because black people are more violent by nature. They aren't. All people are people. All people are exactly the same. The reason is if any society takes any group and tells them your rage is justified.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 18 :
They will unleash the rage of the worst elements of that group, whatever group it is. You go back 100 years and it was white people doing this. Okay. White people lynching, white people getting away with murder. Literally. Why? Because society said, hey, it's okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
You've been wronged. You've been wronged. This is the only fair that you do this to right the wrong you've been subjected to.
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly. And so this is when you look at that, what you're really seeing is the end result of the public education system, the end result of the entertainment industry, the end result of the media. When all these people come together and tell a group, your pain is justified. That group is going to go out and commit a lot more violence. It's just the way it is. You're guaranteeing it. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, I think a couple of weeks ago we also talked about the FBI National Crime Report. 56% of the homicide victims in this country last year were also African-American. Yeah. So they're actually killing African-Americans. The biggest threat to the life of a young African-American man in this country today is not a police officer. It's another African-American man.
SPEAKER 18 :
What really angers me about this, Joe, and we'll take a quick break, come right back, is the people who are causing the African-American community, especially African-American men, the people who are causing them to become more violent in this way. No, they're doing it and they don't care. OK, these people in the media, these people in public, in academia, these people in the entertainment industry who keep just piling on the African-American community, telling them, hey, your rage is justified. You should be enraged. You should be upset. You've been wronged. You've been wronged. Oh, my gosh, it's systemic. Everything that's being done to you. They know they're creating a monster by doing that. And you do it with any group. OK, and they don't care. They don't care, and they know also that they're unleashing these people most of all on their own community. Yep. And it's terrible. Okay, let's take a break. We'll come back with Jersey Joe. Up next is Ridgeline Auto Brokers. When you're looking at used cars, you want good selection and best inspections. Ridgeline is both, and you can find both locations at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 15 :
It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, who is back tomorrow on the line right now. We've got Jersey Joe. Joe, what else you got?
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. I want to talk about recycling. You ever go into Starbucks and you get one of those cold drinks and they give it to you in a clear plastic cup with a straw on the top? And when you're done, they've got a special bin where you put that clear plastic cup to be recycled? Okay. Well, CBS, they took 36 of those plastic. They went all over the country, like 12 different states, and they put little Apple AirPad trackers in these cups.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, they put trackers to see where they actually went.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And Charlie has a clip of CBS telling you where those 36 cups wound up. Here we go.
SPEAKER 25 :
Ever wondered what Starbucks does with all the plastic cups people throw into their in-store recycling bins? Well, CBS News discovered that most of those cups actually never get recycled. So joining us now to explain is our national environmental correspondent, David Schechter. Good to see you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good to be here again.
SPEAKER 25 :
All right. So tell us about, let's start at the beginning. Tell us about why people think that if they get a plastic cup from Starbucks with their iced coffee and they finish it up and they toss it into the recycling bin, why it's actually not getting recycled.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the recycling bins say, you know, it tells this customer actually to put it here. There's a little blue bin and it says, please put your cup in here. And so you're setting up the expectation to the customer that it's going to be recycled. So what we did is we got trackers and we put them inside, like, A whole bunch of cups. 36 of these cups had like an apple tracker in it. We went around the country. You can see where, you know, 15 ended up in the landfill. 14 went to a waste transfer station, which is a place that doesn't recycle. And then you have four of them that went to an incinerator where they would just burn trash. And four of them went to places called material recovery facilities where they would have the possibility of being recycled. So we're kind of checking the Starbucks promise saying, hey, customer, we're going to recycle these things if you put them in here. The reality of what we found is that that didn't happen.
SPEAKER 14 :
So there you have it, a fraud. Only four out of 36 actually got recycled.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's not a surprise at all. I mean, let's face it, virtue signaling is so much easier than having virtue.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is. And by the way, John Stossel did a whole thing where he followed in residential neighborhoods where they make people separate their trash, and they followed the special recycling trucks as they picked up the recycling trash, and they followed the trucks and they went right to the same landfill. Yeah. But people pay a premium for that. How much time we got left? We have about four minutes. Go. All right, I want to talk about, you know, we've had a couple of, in Germany we had the truck attack, New Orleans we had the guy in 60 seconds killed 15 people and wounded 35. I want to talk about, I'm going to tie this into this liberal thing about banning assault rifles. You've met with the phrase cognitive dissonance? Yes. It's where people, you know, when they're stressed out, well, we need to do something, anything. This whole thing about banning assault rifles, when you look at how easy it is to kill people, a dozen or more people in under a minute without using any type of gun at all. This thing about, well, we need to ban assault, this is an expression of cognitive dissonance. In other words, well, we need to do something because it makes us feel better, makes us feel safer. By the way, a guy in Nice, France a couple of years ago drove a, they have a big, their 4th of July is Bastille Day. He drove a stake-body truck down a crowded street full of people, killed 85 people in 60 seconds with a truck. A guy in the Bronx, New York, a couple years back set fire to a nightclub, killed 86 people with $2 worth of gasoline. So this thing about we need to ban assault weapons, I call it squeezing up... People who think you can stop evil and crazy people from killing dozens of other innocent victims simply by denying them access to a specific type of weapon, these are the same people who think you can make a balloon smaller by squeezing it in just one place. Right. I mean, if you can't think of several different ways... to kill a dozen more people in under a minute without using a gun, then your IQ is probably not above room temperature because I don't want to give anybody ideas, but I can think of half a dozen ways to kill a dozen people without using a gun.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah, you could use a truck, you could use a car, you can use so many other things. And Joe, by the way, these are the exact same people who never look at the demographics who are doing the killing. They never look at the fact that, hey, gee, wait a minute. If we say if we see that certain demographics are doing far more killing, shouldn't we look at our societal message to those demographics and change it? Yep. What are you doing to provoke this demographic to kill far more? Shouldn't we look at that and change that? No. Let's disarm the law abiding.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's a feel-good measure. By the way, here's a little statistic. The deadliest school shooting in American history was carried out by a guy using two legally purchased pistols. He killed 31 people with a .22 pistol and a 9mm pistol, no assault rifle. So everybody out there says, oh, if we can just ban assault rifles, we'll put an end to these school shootings. No, you won't. And when that doesn't work, what do you want to ban next? Because there's no such thing... as an end to more, what do they call it, common sense gun controls? Because once you ban one, you'll squeeze the balloon. They'll turn to a different weapon and a different weapon. I think we need to ban assault trucks.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah, I mean, look, the bottom line is these commons, all these limits on being able to buy a weapon are only obeyed by the law-abiding.
SPEAKER 14 :
By the law-abiding, right.
SPEAKER 18 :
They are only obeyed by the people who need the weapon to protect themselves from the people you're not affecting with the law.
SPEAKER 14 :
If you're a bad guy in Colorado and you want to get a high capacity magazine, Cheyenne, Wyoming is what? 90 minutes from Denver.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Or you'll find another way to do it. Or guess what? You'll use low capacity and just have a lot of magazines carrying more guns. If you want to look, if you are hell bent on killing a lot of people and not just protecting yourself, you will get the means to kill a lot of people.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep. And again, if, if people who think, well, we're going to, we're going to solve this problem by banning certain types of weapons. It's cognitive dissonance. So all they're doing is trying to make themselves feel good. Because if they understood the data and reality, they would know that nothing they are proposing will stop an evil or crazy person from killing a dozen or more innocent victims in under a minute. Can't be done.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, what we need to do is we need to have more cops, more FBI agents. We need to have harder targets at schools and everywhere else. We need to make it harder for these people to get messages that tell them to kill or that it's okay to kill. And we need to have it harder for them to do the killing. Sound good, Joe?
SPEAKER 14 :
You're right. Including faster, you know, faster saves lives. We need more. armed staff and teachers. We need more of that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. Joe, thank you so much. Folks, that's going to do it for today. Hour number one replays next. And John is going to return tomorrow. Reason is coming back to Denver. Until then, drive safe, God bless, and thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
In this episode of Rush to Reason, fill-in host Andy Pate dives into a compelling discussion about the events of January 6th compared to historical atrocities. Joined by guests and caller John from Cheyenne, the conversation explores the narrative tools used by political factions to bolster their arguments. Through candid commentary, the episode critiques the hyperbolic comparisons often made in media and politics. This episode also addresses recent legal challenges facing former President Trump. Legal pundit Jonathan Turley's insights into the New York court's proceedings provide a critical look at the implications of Trump's looming appeals. The hosts argue that the timing of these legal maneuvers plays into a larger political strategy, keeping listeners on the edge with current developments. Beloved sports conversa-tions round out the episode, as Andy and John dive into football talk, comparing Shador Sanders to NFL greats, and speculating on upcoming draft picks. With humorous and insightful banter, they navigate the landscape of sports and politics with keen observation and wit.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
Actually, it's Andy Pate. Party of choice. And welcome to our number two here on Rush Reason. I am Andy Pate filling in for John Rush for one more day. John will be back tomorrow. Reason is returning to Colorado tomorrow. Finally. Boy, it needs it. Took long enough. We've had no reason for two weeks. It's too long. I've been driving totally erratically. I haven't followed any speed lights, you know, the lights or speed limits or anything. You scare me. I know, I do. Okay, Luke. I'm Luke. I think it's about time. Yes, Luke Cash. Man. I think it's about time we hear from someone who demonstrates true brilliance. And that, of course, is Sunny Houston of The View. And we need to hear what she has to say about politics because she's always just so spot on. What do you think?
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. Let's hear it.
SPEAKER 06 :
She's talking about January 6th. And really quick, let me set this up. Because right now the Democrats are making a huge deal. And John and I predicted this. The Democrats would make a huge deal out of a smooth transition of power.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, we're nothing like what happened on January 6th. And as you know, I oppose what happened on January 6th. Rushing the Capitol, that kind of stuff. Not a good look. False. It's a crime. It's totally wrong. Nobody should have done that. But let's see what the left compares it to. Here we go.
SPEAKER 11 :
I believe on this very show saying, you know, we need to move on from January 6th. I say, no, you don't move on because January 6th was an atrocity. It was one of the worst moments in American history. And when you think about the worst moments in American history, you know, like World War II, things that happened, you know, like the Holocaust, chattel slavery. Holocaust, famously American history.
SPEAKER 06 :
A few people rushing into the Capitol and taking selfies, all unarmed.
SPEAKER 09 :
Basically 9-11.
SPEAKER 06 :
Killing no one. Yeah. Tell me, how many Jews on January 6th were sent into the gas chambers?
SPEAKER 09 :
Twice as many as Pearl Harbor.
SPEAKER 06 :
Probably twice as many as Pearl Harbor. You know, Pearl Harbor, how many people were bombed to death on January 6th?
SPEAKER 09 :
twice as many as 9-11. I don't know.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, this is incredible. She's literally calling January 6th an atrocity compared to those things. First of all, January 6th was not an atrocity. It was a stupid thing done by a few people. I'm being honest. A wrong thing, I think they should be prosecuted for it. You assault a cop, you don't have my sympathy, okay? But we have to keep in mind, first of all, they were unarmed. Who does an unarmed insurrection?
SPEAKER 09 :
People bad at insurrections.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, really bad at insurrections. And number two, Donald Trump requested... 10,000 troops to secure the area. Who requests 10,000 troops to secure the area against his own attack?
SPEAKER 09 :
People bad at insurrections.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, really bad at insurrections.
SPEAKER 09 :
Rookie move, really, if you think about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, very much a rookie move. And let's also keep in mind, only one person was shot and killed on January 6th, and that was an unarmed... Trump supporter. Now, by the way, I thought she was in the wrong for what she was doing at the time, right? She was trying to barge in and so forth. But did she present a mortal threat? Did the cop have to execute her?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, the cop did not have to execute this woman. And these are the things that happen. I look at this and I think it is pretty crazy to try to compare what happened on January 6th to these atrocities. Let's let her finish.
SPEAKER 11 :
We need to never forget because past becomes prologue if you forget any race. I want to ask you.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, she's insane. Can we just agree? Sonny Holston's insane.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Never forget. Never forget is what we say about 9-11. Yeah. Never forget is what everybody says about 9-11. Didn't some people die on 9-11? I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
Help me out here. Yeah, like one or two maybe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Or more.
SPEAKER 06 :
Almost 3,000. Now that's an atrocity, folks.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
What happened on January 6th, and I'm going to get into some of the reasons it happened here in a moment, but what happened on January 6th was nothing like those incidents. And also, by the way, it was also nothing like what BLM has been doing in cities across the country, burning down businesses, killing people. Folks, none of that happened. It just looks to me like the left finally has one incident where the right gets out of line, and they did. And they play it up to the hill.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Makes no sense. On the line right now is John from Cheyenne. John, how are you, sir?
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Sonny Hostin, that line she just said goes right up there with Belushi from Animal House. Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
SPEAKER 06 :
I wonder if she was consulted in writing that film. I know she was very young at the time, very young. But yeah, the logic, John, the logic eludes me. Go ahead. Here's the thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
She's not dumb because to pass the bar exam, you have to have some kind of a brain. She's just so been brainwashed by the left that every all of her common sense just left. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I think also and this can happen on the right as well. She's in an echo chamber. And when you're in a complete echo chamber and your views are never challenged, this is why I kind of like going online a lot because I like having my views challenged. When your views are never challenged, you can get to where you'll say really stupid, shallow things that make no sense. And the real problem there, John, when you do something like what Sonny Hostin did, is that you are really deeply insulting Jewish people. I mean, my goodness, how about people of color? How about the slaves? Slavery. How many people were whipped and beaten and lynched on January 6th, John? Count them up for me.
SPEAKER 07 :
One got killed. Yeah, one got killed. And that was one protester.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, one unarmed protester got executed by a cop. Okay? I mean, and here you, when you, John, it just seems to me that when you compare January 6th, people going in and doing selfies, and, you know, some assaulted cops, and I want those people in jail. They deserve it. Maybe not this long, but they deserve it. But you compare that to what happened with the Jews, to what happened to black people here in America during slavery. Aren't you really insulted? Aren't you demeaning the pain of those groups?
SPEAKER 07 :
Of course you are, but they don't look at it that way. They want to lump every bad thing together. But one other thing, Andy, you and... we're talking about right before the end of the show about Trump's conviction or let Friday go into court, um, was listening to, um, Jonathan Turley yesterday. Yeah. And he was saying in order for the court of appeals in New York to hear the Trump case, they want it completely done. And that could be why they haven't ruled yet. Cause he hasn't had his final day with the current judge. So what this legal guy was saying is that if that happens on Friday and they convict him, then it goes to the court of appeals and the appeal is already in. They could throw out the whole thing in a week.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, it's possible. I don't know if they will, John. It depends on the court, right? But Turley is right. And by the way, I love Jonathan Turley. He has been absolutely incensed about this entire thing. He thinks this was a complete railroading in the courts against Trump. But I also, John, worry about the timing here because it's not giving Trump much time to respond. Trump takes office on the 20th. And once he takes office, look, at that point, everything is frozen. You can't take any real legal action on this, can you? So he's got to appeal right away and just hope. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, according to what I read in the Post, New York Post, I'm sorry, his appeal was already filed, but they won't finish and rule on it, the New York State Court of Appeals, until after the case is completely done. Right. It's already filed, so he's already filed his appeal. It's just they've got to finish so then they can either have an appeal hearing or render their decision and look at the evidence or whatever.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, but what I mean is this. They're only giving him 9, 10 days to do that because the case won't be finally completed until this Friday, and that's only 9, 10 days from when he takes office.
SPEAKER 07 :
But here's the other thing. So you're saying that once he takes office— The New York State of Appeals can't look at it or rule on it or anything?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I don't want to say that for sure because I don't know. I don't know. I just know that when you have a sitting president, you're not supposed to bring these kind of legal actions. I know they're doing it beforehand. I'm not sure how that's going to fall, John. I'm really not.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're in uncharted waters, to quote. Because it's never happened before. But, Andy, good hearing you. It would be nice to have John back the rest of the week. We need reason. Also, there's not been a lot of stuff on. When you guys aren't on, there's not a lot to listen to. We'll just go with that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I miss him, too, John. He'll be back tomorrow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, by the way, I got one other thing real quick. I'm going to call you out. You and Richard were talking up Shador Sanders like he's the next Tom Brady. And did you see that bowl game that he played in where he just got –
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no, no. John, you've got to admit, BYU was simply physically superior all over the field. That was brutal. They were flying all over the field. They were much more physical. Shadoura's whole offensive line was collapsing. I don't know who would have looked good there.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll just go with my thought. I think he's RG3. But we'll see.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it's possible. Really quick here, before you go, what pick do you guys have? I know the Titans got the top pick.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you're number two. I think we got two. I think we got two. It's either two or three. And they did it. Here's the thing that surprised me and I kind of like, is they didn't fire Brian Dable.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, well, that's nice. Not overreacting to him.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't. Right, because I think the mistake was giving Daniel Jones all that money because he was just not a quarterback. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. They got the kid that used to play in Denver, Drew Locke. Did Gable turn him into an NFL quarterback? No, I think he drafted somebody. Do you draft one? Who do you draft? The kid from Florida who quit or Miami who quit halfway through a full game?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's possible, but I don't want to say yet because you know me and Richard's the same way. We're going to be reading like crazy and watching film come April. And I want to wait until actually March and April. We're going to be watching tons of film and reading. I want to wait until then, but I think I'll have a pretty good idea. We usually make those top five picks real close.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, here's the thing I remember, and I'm old like you. Phil Simms came out of a Division II school.
SPEAKER 06 :
True.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we didn't ever have – once he became the starter, he never had a problem with the Giants. So you never know with quarterbacks. You might get – well, the guy that was quarterbacking for – The Chiefs on Sunday. Carson Wentz, he came out of a Division II school and went to a Super Bowl.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's true, but he's done. I mean, the Chiefs played their third stringers. I think they had a few cheerleaders in the game. But, you know, I do remember Phil threw 22 out of 25 against the Broncos in the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, and every time the Broncos talk about how great they were, Bronco fans, I remind them of that.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's cold. All right. John, thank you so much.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Luke Cash. Man. Okay, now. Really quick here, we've got just a few minutes. I want to talk about January 6th, the rioters.
SPEAKER 09 :
Pardon is the word you were thinking of.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, Trump's going to pardon them all. And I know a lot of people are going to say, oh, he shouldn't pardon them. I think he should. First of all, a number of them shouldn't even be in prison. Secondly, a number of those who are in prison, who I think deserved some prison time for their actions on January 6th, have served long enough. Okay, I mean, come on. Really? Four years? I mean, really? We got people who rob and loot, who are involved in looting and are out in, what, 30 days or whatever. This is crazy. It's just not balanced. But I just want to remind people who think, oh, those Trump voters, they're all crazy. How can they possibly think 2020 was stolen? Well, You know, guys, I do not support any of what they did on January 6th, and I also don't take some of the extreme views of some of those who pushed the 2020 cheat. Okay? You know, I was never into talking about Dominion. I never cared. I never thought much was done. I do believe Dominion appears to be open to compromise, but I don't think it was really used. Okay? I've never seen any evidence of it. Do I say... Do I say for certain that 2020 was stolen for absolutely certain? No, I do not, because no audit was done. Right. I'm one of these people, until I see the absolute evidence, I'm not going to make the call. However, and we talked about this last week. For those who don't know, I've been in a couple of companies where basically my company had me find thieves, especially in theaters. When I was managing movie theaters, I got very good at it, and I'm a real natural. They even sent me into one theater in Oklahoma, two theaters actually in Oklahoma, and one in particular where this one guy was basically... working deals across the entire city to his benefit, a manager was. And I had him walked out in irons. I had another case where a manager in a theater in Kansas City was stealing. I caught him. He had been getting away with it for many years. I caught him in 30 days. Okay. Just by looking at the numbers and tracking the numbers. What I do is I track the numbers and I look for anomalies. And when I see an anomaly, I wonder why is the anomaly there? And the first thing I say is, okay, is there anything else that could explain this? First, I try to clear them. Okay. And sometimes I did. Okay. But then I start looking at saying, okay, what are those numbers tell me? Now, for those who look at 2020 and want to say that the Trump supporters are all a bunch of kooks, First of all, I'm going to say some of them are. Am I right? You've heard some of them. They go off and 2020 is all they talk about. And they do come off like kooks and crackpots. And they don't trust any election result anywhere. They never trust any polling anywhere unless it's in favor of them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, definitely a handful of people out there like that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, wouldn't you say some come off pretty crazy?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I'd say so.
SPEAKER 06 :
And these are my cohorts. Right. Okay. But what I want to share with people is some very simple numbers that show, look, they have a point. Okay? And this is, once again, when you look at numbers and you look at anomalies and you say, well, what would explain this beyond cheating?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Once again, as we talked about last Tuesday, you have 19 Bellwether counties. And Bellwether counties are counties that almost always vote for the winner. Be it Republican or Democrat. They're so close and they so reflect the mood of the country that they always go for the one who wins. Almost always. OK, let me go through them really quick again. There were 19 of them out of 19 since 1994. Here's 84. Here's how it goes. In 1984, 19 of them, 19 out of 19 voted for the winner. Reagan, okay? In 1988, 17 out of 19 voted for the winner. 92, 18 out of 19 voted for the winner. 96, 19 out of 19 voted for the winner. 2000, 19 out of 19 voted for the winner. And by the way, these are going back and forth between Democrat and Republican. It's really incredible. 2004, 18 out of 19 voted for the winner. 2008, 18. 2012, 19. 2016, 19. And 2012, I mean, that was Obama. 2016, that was Trump. 19 out of 19 picked them both. Yeah. These are the same counties. Right. I mean, districts. 2021. out of 19 chose the winner. One. Yeah. Okay. 2024 this year, 17. It went right back up to 17 out of 19 chose the winner. Okay, right there, if I was looking for a thief, I would say they're stealing. There's no way that there is. I mean, this tells me that there was enough fraud. And there was a lot of fraud. Look, I think a lot of it came because of COVID. I think you had so much mail-in voting across the country. I think the Democrats made great use of it. Now, really quick here, the other thing is the popular vote. And I don't want to go into these dry numbers. Okay. Let me just go back and just do like three or four elections. OK, here's the Democrat vote count. Roughly, I'm rounding it up in 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024. OK, 2012, they got about 66 million votes. 2016, once again, about 66 million votes. 2020, 82 million votes. 2024, 75 million votes. Do you see one of these things is not like the others?
SPEAKER 09 :
Off by a couple million.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's an incredible jump.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Meanwhile, the Republicans, 2012, they got about 61 million votes. 2016 got about 63 million votes, so it's rising. 2020, big year. A lot of people were engaged, right? 74 million votes. This year, it continued rising, 77 million votes. Okay. Okay. The one that is a consistent rise. Right. OK. Whereas with the Democrats, you have even even enormous jump in 2020 and then it drops back down seven. The Democrats basically gained. about 15 million votes, 15, 16, going from 2016 to 2020. That's a lot of votes. And then they lost 7 million of those again this year in 2024, last year. Okay. When you look at those numbers and you look at the bellwether counties, I think we have to look at January 6th and say, well, nobody was in the right rushing the Capitol. That's nuts. Okay. But did they have a point? Yeah, they had a point. Okay. And here's what really gets me about this, Luke. The Democrats have protested against elections too. Remember, Al Gore swore he had it stolen from him. In the year Al Gore lost, 19 out of 19 of those bellwether counties chose George W. Bush.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
In the year Hillary lost, 19 out of 19 chose Donald Trump. And Hillary, for four years, said Donald Trump was an illegitimate president. She said she was cheated out of the election.
SPEAKER 09 :
They were big on the Russia steal.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Russia steal, Russia steal, Russian collusion. By the way, none of it was proven, none. Donald Trump, only one out of 19 voted against him. And in Donald Trump's year, the Democrat got 7 million more votes roughly than they got this year. And 15, 16 million, about 15 million more than they got in 2016. There was an enormous jump of votes for Democrats in 2020 for a very unexciting Joe Biden candidate. That makes no sense. Now, if I were still the guy who was trying to catch crooks in theaters... If I looked at those numbers, absolutely, I would say I got a thief.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Now, once again, am I going to draw the final conclusion? No. But the reason I'm saying this is this. Folks, I know you know some friends who go cuckoo about the 2020 election. You know some friends who seem to just fixate and focus on it and say it's everything and claim every religion from now until kingdom come is stolen because of the 2020 election. And we're never going to be treated honestly again. Everything's a cheat. I know you get friends who hyperventilate over 2020. No, they shouldn't hyperventilate that much, but please give them a lot of grace because the numbers say they've got a massive point. A massive point. Is that fair? Fair enough. And on that note, let's let 2020 go. Does that sound fair? We're done. Yeah, we're done because guess what? We just won and life is good and I don't care. No, seriously. I'm very happy. We just won. We took it back and we don't have to worry about it again. Oh, I'm just, I think I've had enough.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think a lot of us have. I think we've all had enough.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, it's just, look, I just don't think at this point that there's any way to say that there wasn't enough that went on. There's no way to look at January 6, 2020, and say that what the Republicans went through that year is the same as what other people have gone through. No, it isn't. They had an election that it looks in every way like it was stolen from them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, we've seen a couple of times the graph when that 2020 election finally finished where you have the red arc that goes across and then in comparison to the blue arc and you get this really big vertical jump and then the arc continues. I think that was circulating around for a little while. And I remember, I mean, like you were saying, Dominion was a big talking point. I was never worried so much about Dominion and my stance on the subject. It's a little all over the place.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, what is your stance? Your basic stance?
SPEAKER 09 :
My basic stance? I don't know. I don't know. Was it stolen? Maybe. Could have been. You know, does it matter? We got the results we got. And did it happen again? Maybe. I don't know.
SPEAKER 06 :
I feel... You know the thing that really hurts? No. It destroyed the country.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I guess for me... There's nothing I can do about it, right? There's not a lot of say I have, right? People way above my pay grade are making these decisions and making the calls to actions and – That's fair. Putting people in chairs and getting lawyers all over it. It's like that's – I don't know. I can't do anything. There's – Nothing I say or do, there's no amount of whining and complaining. There's no amount of legitimate rage I can display that will change the course of any of these things. So I don't know why, for me personally, why lose any sleep over it. Nothing I can do about it.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. Luke, we've got to talk about Mark Zuckerberg. I wanted to go to Trump, but then I just remembered Mark Zuckerberg.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mark Zuckerbug. The dude's an alien.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he just made enormous changes at X. I mean, not at X, but at Facebook.
SPEAKER 09 :
Facebook? What's he doing?
SPEAKER 06 :
Meta. Okay, you want to hear him? Sure. Okay, here we go. Folks, this is incredible, and I think this shows a lot more about the mood of the country and how it's changing. Here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Here's what we're gonna do. First, we're gonna get rid of fact checkers and replace them with community notes, similar to X, starting in the US. After Trump first got elected in 2016, the legacy media wrote nonstop about how misinformation was a threat to democracy. We tried in good faith to address those concerns without becoming the arbiters of truth. But the fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have destroyed more trust than they've created.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, really quick here. Do you believe him? Do you believe they tried to do it in good faith?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I think they tried to bet on a horse and that horse lost.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Basically, yes, they bet on a horse and their horse lost because here's what it comes down to. Their fact-checkers were 100% hardcore left-wingers who were not fact-checking. They were censoring the right in every way, shape, and form they possibly could. And it was grotesquely unfair. And what happened? An election happened and they lost. And this guy had to go down and grovel before Trump. How much of this do you think is Elon Musk has had a real impact in the tech titan industry? i don't know because elon musk took x which was twitter okay twitter had been this completely biased place too right okay completely biased platform and you had uh the fact checkers there were just destroying conservatives right okay and now facebook has it happen what do you think
SPEAKER 09 :
There's got to be some sort of connection there. I mean, surely they're seeing how popular it was, the transition on X to community notes. So I think they're very, like we're saying, they bet on horses, right? They're following trends. They're trying to go in a direction that's going to optimize their profits. I mean, that's the only thing they care about. So if they believe that this transition is going to optimize their profits, that's what they're going to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, it's pretty cool, because it's like this election win is already affecting our lives in a very good way. Yeah, I don't care if you're left or right. Okay, you should be happy about this.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's good.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, because it should be an open exchange of ideas. That's what we should have. To me, the next great thing that would need to happen is Google search engines. Yeah, no, I'm serious.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, no, you're right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Google search engines are unbelievably left wing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. They're also, like, terrible now, just in general.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, they are.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're impossible to use.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. They try to steer you toward left-wing goals. Here you're looking for something on Trump, and what do you get? 15 articles on how bad he is and how Trump is Satan. And it's just crazy. I think that we are starting to see, I don't know, a break in the ice. Let's listen to a little bit more of Mark.
SPEAKER 08 :
So over the next couple of months, we're going to phase in a more comprehensive community notes system. Second, we're going to simplify our content policies and get rid of a bunch of restrictions on topics like immigration and gender that are just out of touch with mainstream discourse.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. They've been allowing full discussion of immigration and gender if you were left wing. So what he's really saying is he's going to let the right speak. Right. Here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
What started as a movement to be more inclusive has increasingly been used to shut down opinions and shut out people with different ideas and
SPEAKER 06 :
It was never a movement to be more inclusive. It was always a movement to shut down opinion and shut down different ideas. And you did it on purpose. Is that fair? Yeah. Yeah. He's lying, but I don't care. I don't care. Whatever brings some change to Facebook. Here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it's gone too far. So I want to make sure that people can share their beliefs and experiences on our platforms. Third, We're changing how we enforce our policies to reduce the mistakes that account for the vast majority of censorship on our platforms. We used to have filters that scanned for any policy violation. Now we're going to focus those filters on tackling illegal and high severity violations.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. No, you had filters that tried to filter out the right. Okay. Once again, he's lying, but I don't care. All right. I mean, you know, this idea. And I do believe that in these public discourse areas, you should have filters for let's say somebody is posting violent threats.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Somebody's posting, I'm going to kill this person or get that person or I think that we should do this or that. I think that those should immediately have the FBI at their door when they do that kind of thing, don't you? Yeah. So, you know, it's good. Here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
And for lower severity violations, we're going to rely on someone reporting an issue before we take action. The problem is that the filters make mistakes and they take down a lot of content that they shouldn't. So by dialing them back, we're going to dramatically reduce the amount of censorship on our platforms.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they weren't mistakes. You did it on purpose and it was one-sided. Here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
We're also going to tune our content filters to require much higher confidence before taking down content. The reality is that this is a trade-off. It means we're going to catch less bad stuff, but we'll also reduce the number of innocent people's posts and accounts that we accidentally take down.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's fair. Don't you think? Okay, going on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Fourth, we're bringing back civic content. For a while, the community asked to see less politics because it was making people stressed, so we stopped recommending these posts. But it feels like we're in a new era now, and we're starting to get feedback that people want to see this content again. So we're going to start phasing this back into Facebook, Instagram, and threads while working to keep the communities friendly and positive. Fifth, we're gonna move our trust and safety and content moderation teams out of California, and our US-based content review is gonna be based in Texas. As we work to promote free expression, I think that it will help us build trust to do this work in places where there is less concern about the bias of our teams.
SPEAKER 06 :
And where they can pay lower taxes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Come on, let's be honest.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, now, what do you think about all this?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think it's a good strategy for the current discourse. I don't buy a single word he says, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no.
SPEAKER 09 :
Like we said, he's placing his bet on a new horse is what he's doing. The last one lost, so doing a full 180, going to place their bet on the next horse, and I guarantee you if this one loses, then they'll go right back to the way things were.
SPEAKER 06 :
But when's the last time that you saw the American voter so completely overhaul major industry like this?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's been a while. It's been a while.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, this is shocking.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don't you think?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, the last time.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think we will see some real differences. I'm not saying that Facebook is suddenly meta, whatever. It's suddenly, guys, just keep your names, Twitter, Facebook. You know, you're driving me nuts. I don't think that they are suddenly going to become this bastion of open-mindedness. No. No.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I think they're trying to make money, and they'll do whatever they can to make money.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good news?
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe. I don't know. I think right now it feels like it's moving in a positive direction.
SPEAKER 06 :
You see, I think it is good news. I think it feels great, and I feel like a winner today. Once again, I've been feeling like a winner a lot lately. And I'm just getting very excited about when Trump takes over on the 20th. A lot of good things happening. But I think this is the big thing we're seeing, this movement in Western civilization, a movement toward individual freedom. This is what we just saw in Canada. Let's face it. He got he's getting thrown out. He got ousted because he crushed individual liberties. He did.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK. And we're seeing that the left in America was crushing individual liberties. And by the way, when you do that, you're going to hurt the free market and that hurt the economy. OK. Because you're saying a lot of it has to do with the economy. I agree. But I think they they go together. Right. All right. I think that Western civilization right now is rising up and just saying, look, we want our governments to serve us, not control us. And I think they're saying that everywhere. And I think they're also saying that of platforms like Facebook. You're there to serve me, pal. You are there to serve me. You're not there to tell me what I should post and shouldn't post. If I'm violent, that's another thing. I'm threatening other people on your server. That's fair. You should take me out. But otherwise, you shouldn't. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think you're pretty dead on. I think a lot of people, on the whole, want a lot of the same things. It's just the approach to get those things are different. I think people, on the whole, they want to be safe and secure in their person. They want to be able to express themselves freely and openly. We want to be able to afford food and all that fun stuff. I think people want a lot of the same stuff, and this is the method that's, I think, more closely aligning with those goals at the moment.
SPEAKER 06 :
I agree. It's good news. Okay, let's go to break. When we come back, we'll talk a little Trump. I want to ask you, and I'll tell you this right before the break, what are you most excited about with the new presidency with Donald Trump? Sounds good. All right. Up next is Geno's Auto. If you're on the west side of town and you need great, honest auto repair, call Geno's. That's Geno's with a J at 303-794-6700.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. One more day, John will be back tomorrow, I can't wait. Luke Cash. Man, yes. Luke, what are you most excited about with Donald Trump coming back into office? What's really got you jazzed?
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What am I excited for? I'm excited to see how... The Republicans solve problems with as few excuses as possible. I agree. Having the presidency, having the House and the Senate as narrow as it is. Right. I think this is as good as it's going to get for the foreseeable future unless things change in a very positive direction. So I'm excited to see what problems they address. I mean, what problems they really focus on, how they solve the problems that matter. And watching it play out, like I said, with as few excuses as you can get in the current day and age.
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You know, let's look at issues. I'm most excited about the border. I want the invasion stopped. And that doesn't mean no more immigration, folks. It means no more illegal immigration. I want us to have a full border with ports of entry. You want to come here, you've got to go through the port of entry and show that you should be here. You know what? It's just like the door in my house.
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Nations should have borders? An absurd notion. Right. You're crazy.
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And Luke, I think a lot of people understand this. Do you protect your house with walls and doors or lawn and floors?
SPEAKER 09 :
Doors and walls.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah, you can't. Lawn and floors, people just walk across, right? That's what we've had for four years. It's been an absolute invasion of our country. I'm most excited about Tom Holman, and I'm very excited about mass deportations that are going to start with the dangerous elements. And I'm not saying nobody will be kept, but I think there are a lot of people who really, they've got to go through the process legally. This is, no other country has what we've had for the last four years.
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Yeah, bad actors got to go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they've got to go. I think another thing I'm really excited about is crime.
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You're excited about crime?
SPEAKER 06 :
Going down.
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Okay.
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Because, yeah. Well, no, because, look, we've had an absolute lawless leadership for the last four years. They're lawless. Utterly lawless. Right? Yeah. And these are the people who are on the side of defund the cops. They're on the side of, you know, look – Biden basically just let a lot of criminals out of prison or shortened their sentences. They are, Alvin Bragg, he doesn't look, they do nothing about terrorism. Look what happened in New Orleans. Here they were spending a lot of FBI resources on going after parents at school who speak up at school board meetings, right? And going after Catholics, right? Because they're pro-life. They were literally doing this. They were literally putting people on their terror watch list who said things that were against their politics. Kash Patel is going to come in and he, yeah, he's right wing, but he's not going to suddenly just go after all the left wingers. He is going to have the FBI out there tracking down dangerous threats, whether they be right, left, or in the middle. I like that. I want a return of lawfulness. What do you think?
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That'd be nice. That'd be nice. I mean, what is it, Denver specifically? We're like the number one center of car thefts.
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Yeah.
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Everywhere, basically, in all of America. That's a problem. We need some, I mean, we've got to do something about all of that, right?
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Yes. I think, I want it to be cool again to enforce the law. I want it to be cool again to use cops to go after dangerous people. Not just raise revenues by giving out tickets. Or not, you know, or federal cops not just being used to go after the party that's out of power. Mm-hmm. Okay, look, I want lawfulness again. Okay, here's another thing. I just want somebody who's strong on the world stage. Trump is strong. He is very strong. We've had utter weakness on the world stage. I want our money out of Ukraine.
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Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I want the war in Ukraine to end. I want it done.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
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Okay, I want Israel, I want that war to end.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, I want. Yeah, you're not going to end all wars forever, but I want a strong leader comes in and says, hey, this is this is it.
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We're not going to end all wars, but I want my money to stop going there. I don't.
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Well, here's the last question. I'll give it to you really quick. What is it meant to America to have a president who's owned by other countries, which he really has been?
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I mean, it's it's it's crippled us. I mean, I'm not the biggest Trump fan in the whole wide world, but you don't have to. You have 2020 vision to see that Biden was an incredibly weak leader.
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Yeah, you're a moderate, okay, and that's why I like having you here. I wanted to ask you this because you're not a big Trumpy. No. But you do like Trump more than Biden. I know you do. Oh, yeah. I can tell. You know, what is it going to be like just having a president, even when you don't agree with him sometime, knowing that at least he's not owned by foreign interests?
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It'll be big. It'll hopefully shake up things in the right way.
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I think it will. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm mega proud on this. There are times when I disagree with Trump, and people know that, on entitlements especially. Okay, but I'm excited. I think we have great times ahead. I think we're going to have a better country. And that's it. Hey, Luke, thanks for joining me today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, thanks for having me.
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You bet. It's been awesome. That is it for hour number two and hour number three. I'm going to be talking to Jersey Joe as we watch Left Going Crazy nationwide. Until then... Keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.