In this edition of the Best Stocks Now show, Bill Gundersen and Barry Kite delve into the hectic world of market trends and AI advancements. The episode navigates through the shifting tides in stock market indices, pointing out both promising opportunities and potential perils in the current market climate. The hosts discuss the buzz around Jensen's recent interviews that challenge the notion of market bubbles, despite the speculations that persist in financial circles.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Wednesday morning. It's the midweek edition of the Best Docs Now show on this October the 8th. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we had a mixed open. Now, boy, look at that. We're getting a little bit of lift, a little buoyancy coming into the markets here again. As the NASDAQ now is up 150 points, it's AI stocks doing the trick today. The NASDAQ's at 22,938. Closing in on 23,000 for the first time in its history. The Dow is up 13 now. It was down 70, but it's turned around. 46,616 on the Dow. The S&P up 22 to 6,737. Small caps, the Russell 2000 up three points to 2,461. Interest rates are down a little bit today. I noted this morning we were down a couple of basis points. We're at 4.11 right now. Gold is hitting an all-time high again of $4,056. It's up another 1.3% today. Crude oil is up 1%. And Bitcoin is down $1,900 to $122.425. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show. with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only firm. And I'm here with Barry Kydar, chartered financial analyst. It almost seems like something happened here just before, just after the market opened. Maybe there's headway on the government shutdown. I don't know. But the Dow was down 70, and now it has surged into the green, Barry. And the NASDAQ, boy, there's just no stopping that thing right now.
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I think it might be Jensen's comments in an interview in terms of, you know, he kind of downplayed the, you know, we keep hearing, I heard a funny person say a couple days ago, the bubble talk is we've got a bubble in the bubble talk because that's all we hear about right now.
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Yeah, there's a bubble in the bubble talk.
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You're right. That's a good point. And so Jensen basically downplayed, you know, that bubble, I guess, this morning. So, you know, we've got NVIDIA making a deal with XAI and, you know, NVIDIA up 2.2%. And lately, if NVIDIA is up, probably the rest of the market.
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Well, I'm not so concerned with the bubble in NVIDIA. Yeah, right. It's the companies that are floating convertible bonds to buy Ethereum coins or coins that I've never even heard of before. That's where I have the issue. And some of these long-term stocks that have no prospects for earnings anytime soon, I agree with Jensen Wang. I mean, the good, solid companies, the NVIDIAs and the Netflix and the AMDs of the world, I'm not so much concerned with the bubble there. It's the speculative bubble, which usually appears first. Okay, and then the other ones kind of follow, but there's a lot. In fact, I've got several examples here today that I'm going to use. The market looked a little tired to me yesterday. You know, it's hard. I mean... You know, you put wood and you get the fire going and eventually it starts to burn out and it needs new fuel to keep going and more new fuel. And it just seems like at some point the market's going to run out of fuel. But the money continues to pour into gold. $4,056 per ounce today. That's crazy. And, of course, money continues to pour into Bitcoin, although it had a pretty good correction yesterday. Bitcoin's at $122,000. But it's those little... As I look out in the area where I live, the low country, you've got the main bodies of water, the harbor, and the main giant rivers that feed that harbor. But when you get off into the little streams and the creeks and whatnot that are about one foot deep, you've got to be careful with your navigation around here. That's where this market, the money has spread to, is these little creeks, these little nooks. Every place where there's six inches or more of water there, there's money pouring into that yeah i mean in the tide can in the tide can go out real quick and and guess what those little creeks of water are left high and dry and uh the oyster beds are exposed uh and uh the mud the pluff mud is exposed and it stinks and everything like that so uh there there's where i have uh issues with the market right now so what I'm not calling it a bubble. We're still in the sugar high phase, which is creating the bubble, and we're definitely very much so. In many areas, there's a sugar high. Okay, I saw Apollo Global Management's chief economist. I always like when these guys... I figure they're smarter than me. These guys study one little area of the market for the most part and are very in tune with it. He says that the slower job growth stems from labor supply constraints, not economic weakness. And I would say that there's something to that. I still see help wanted signs everywhere, and they're paying more and more to get that help to come in. With kids making millions of dollars in Bitcoin sitting on the couch looking into their iPhone, That's got to create some kind of labor constraint. I mean, you know, you've got obviously a lot of the immigrants, illegal and legal, that have come here. I'm sure that's filling some of those gaps. But it's interesting to hear him, Torsten Slocke. He's pretty well known. Oh, yeah. Chief Economist. saying the deceleration in hiring reflects weaker labor supply rather than a waning demand as GDP, consumer spending, and business investment remain robust. He says the bottom line is that the labor market is not due to weaker labor demand but rather to weaker labor supply because of immigration, AI implementation, and a normalization of job growth in the public sector. He explained that under the current pace of economic growth, non-farm payroll should be adding roughly 263,000 jobs per month. However, a sharp slowdown in the growth. of the foreign-born labor force, okay, so the border, right, the sealed border, has limited the pool of available workers while advancements in artificial intelligence are enhancing productivity and reducing the need for additional hires in certain sector. So that's an interesting take. on the jobs market right now.
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He's always one of those guys where if I hear, we always talk about having the financial channels on, but on mute, and when he pops up, he's usually one. If I've got some time, I'll take it off mute and see what he's got to say for a moment.
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Yeah, I don't know. Torsten Slocke. Sounds like he might be on the same neck of the woods where some of my answers came from. That sounds very much Scandinavian to me. So that's another reason I like him. Now, you're talking about this XAI. Okay. This is just another one of Elon Musk's businesses. This is his artificial intelligence startup, XAI, has been raising more financing than initially planned. Okay, this is another nook and cranny where money is being thrown at startups. This thing was oversubscribed. They easily raised a massive $20 billion. Okay, so you're throwing money into a private company, but a good one. And again, what gives me the heartburn is money being thrown at small private startups that will maybe probably never see the light of day. That's where my issue is, not with the XAI. And of course, NVIDIA, Jensen Wang threw $2 billion. at Elon Musk startup, which is his own version of artificial intelligence. Now remember, there's Anthropic now, there's OpenAI, there's Google's brand of AI, there's now Musk's brand of AI. These different AIs are popping up all over the place and money being thrown at them. And in the end, there will be two or three survivors. Okay, that's just the way things work out. But anyways, Jensen Wang is regretting that they didn't give him more than $2 billion. Musk recently appointed a former Morgan Stanley executive as CFO. of XAI and X, two of Elon Musk's private companies that have not gone public yet. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the Best Stocks Now show on this Wednesday, October the 8th. Appearing on CNBC, Jensen Wang, 62 years old, said he was excited about the Musk-led company's financing opportunities. And he regretted not giving XAI even more money. But look at this, Barry. He gave XAI $2 billion. So by owning NVIDIA, you have exposure to XAI. But he gave OpenAI $100 billion or an intention to invest up to $100 billion in several tranches over time. and of course uh... both of these are private companies but he's giving open a i fifty times what he's giving uh... uh... too much he also regrets not investing more money in the core we've so there's a hot tip for you we've owned we own courtly for about a month here right after a win public and it's shot up and i said you know what that's a gift from god there we're gonna walk away from that one right you know it's like wow Okay, and then Wang's comments come just days after a similar deal, of course, with OpenAI. And he also touched on a number of other subjects during his CNBC interview, including the fact he did not know about the deal between AMD. and OpenAI. I mean, OpenAI is probably the hottest thing in the world today. It's a private company. It is the source, really. It's the mothership. It's the mothership of AI, and I think you can say Sam Altman is kind of the father of of AI. And by the way, I watched the first half, the video portion of the interview between Tucker Carlson and Flynn. I don't know Flynn's first name. but that was just his take, very interesting, this Flynn guy who links AI very much so with the occult that invaded rock and roll in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. So anyways, take a look at that. That's an interesting interview. Wang, who leads the world's most valuable company, Also spoke on other subjects and whatnot here. But anyways, OpenAI, NVIDIA, AMD, there's your nucleus right there pretty much of AI.
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The interesting thing, though, is this is what I like about Jensen, he's giving them Putting in $2 billion, and what are they going to do with the $20 billion they're raising? They're going to use it to lease some NVIDIA chips for, I think, five years to build out the Colossus II data center in Memphis.
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They've already got their next chips, too.
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They've given the name to them. I can't think of it right now. It's almost like seller financing. It's kind of interesting. It's hard to tell what the deal is completely because it's in one of these special purpose vehicles, and the purpose of a special purpose vehicle is to be somewhat anonymous anyway. We probably won't get the full details of the deal, but it's definitely adding some fuel to the AI for you today. Yes.
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Okay, another one where I think there's a sugar high. You know, this whole business of sat phones, satellite phones, that's been around for a long time. I mean, growing up in San Diego, and, you know, these boats that go way offshore fishing, the long-range boats and whatnot, they've had sat phones forever. You know, but it was more of a specialized kind of thing, and you paid a lot more. We had in Point Loma, we had a giant store that sold sat phones to yacht captains that chased tuna during the summertime. A satellite phone store, right? Yeah. It was. I mean, because there was a huge market. If you ever go to San Diego Harbor and see all of the yachts, big mega yachts, not so much mega yachts, but fishing boats there in that harbor, they needed sat phones to communicate or... uh... to uh... to put out of distress uh... message signal okay so sap phones are not a new thing but i suppose the commercialization and the uh... democrat does the a lot of putting sap phones into everybody's hands now on their iphone and really that's not a big giant breakthrough either i mean uh... t-mobile's offering it right t-mobile teamed up with elon musk starlink Which means that, you know, you don't need a cell tower. You can get your satellite, you can get your cell phone directly from satellites using Starlink's internet connection. Well, this AST Space Mobile signed a deal today with Verizon. Okay, so Verizon went with them instead of Elon Musk. And AST barely has any sales at all. They've had $3 million in sales, and all of a sudden this is a $29 billion company. These are the kind of bubbles and sugar highs that worry me. This stock's hitting a new all-time high. It's $81 a share. It's up 9% today, hitting a new high. Now, if I thought that this was a new technology, it's out of Midland, Texas. uh... it's not i mean this is old technology uh... it just happens that they signed a deal with verizon okay so verizon's gonna pay them for access to their satellite network at asts and i have i know i understand that you know finally we're seeing the little guy like chat gpt the little guy could get chat gpt once microsoft announced it it's the same with the satellite phone Now you can get it through T-Mobile, who uses Musk, Starlink, or you can get it through Verizon using AST SpaceMobile. Will this be a highly profitable venture for ASTS? I'm not so sure about that yet. I don't know that Starlink is that profitable yet because it costs so much money. Think of the overhead. This isn't like putting up cell towers on Highway 17, right? You're launching satellites. Right. This is expensive, expensive overhead and infrastructure to build this network. And development. I mean, R&D even. Just count me a skeptic on these stocks. But it's surging as they strike a space-based network partnership with Verizon. Okay. Okay. It seems like Musk is in the news every day. And by the way, Jensen Wang's other comment was, I want to be invested in everything Elon Musk does. That comes from Jensen Wang. So obviously that's Neuralink. That's Starlink. It's XAI. It's the company formerly known as Twitter named XAI. which someday I suppose will be a public company itself. Now, he did not crack Elon, that is, did not crack the $30,000 mark with the cheaper version of the Model Y, but he did crack the $40,000. $39,990 will get you the cheapest version of the Model Y, which has a 325. So there's your starter call. There's your starter car for your boy in college. Get him a Model Y for $39,990, Barry, and he can come home, see you on the weekends, and rate your refrigerator. Yeah, can't go too far. And he can't get in too much trouble, 325 miles. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. Now, we own a few of the sugar highs stocks, although I've got them on a very short leash right now, and I have let go of a few that had some big gains in them. Rocket Labs rallies to an all-time high after signing a new multi-launch contract. Rocket Labs builds very sophisticated types of satellites and launches very sophisticated satellites. They signed another multi-launch deal with the Institute for Kyushu Pioneers of Space. the primary launch provider to deploy their commercial Earth imaging constellation. So there's a lot of rocket talk here that is highfalutin stuff, but let's just look at the stock here today, which we own in our emerging growth portfolio. Rocket Labs, you know, unlike AST Space Mobile, Rocket Labs has done about a half a billion dollars in revenue this year, sales. Okay, so they're not quite profitable yet. But it's one thing to have, you know, hardly any sales whatsoever. Obviously, AST SpaceMobile will get a lot of sales eventually from Verizon. Whether or not it's profitable or not remains a question. But Rocket Labs is already, I mean, their most recent quarter, they had $144 million in sales. And their last four quarters have exceeded $100 million in sales. So anyways, RKLB out of Long Beach, California.
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Well, I think we had, what, the largest, didn't we have the largest IPO ever involving essentially space or rockets this year at some point? I forget what the company was that came public, but it's been... It's all over the place. I mean, nuclear, small nukes. Yes, and space.
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You could throw space into that sugar high stuff. And, of course, Cathie Woods has an ARC fund that is just space-related stocks. And, you know, obviously this is one of those smaller creeks out there on the overall water table that's receiving water right now. and is brimming with shrimp. But when the tide goes out, I mean, these are the ones that will be the most vulnerable. You have to remember that. But it is hitting a new all-time high today. So, you know, that's where the charts come in very handy for me when I kind of start to see that high tide, high water mark, and it starts to recede. That's when you want to get out of the creek or you're going to be high and dry. in that thing we had i saw a guy one time out here in front of my house we have a sandbar in the middle of the uh the river i guess he didn't know about it he didn't have navigation equipment on his boat he ran high he got high and dry on that sandbar had to wait till high tide to get off which is a six hour cycle you know you gotta wait six hours finally he floated his boat But when the tide goes out on a stock, it could never come back in. You may have to wait years for it to ever get back to that level and rescue you. So you have to be a little bit careful. One thing that I did send out yesterday, we had somebody transfer a bunch of leveraged single stock ETFs. I would get off the leverage right now. If you're on leverage with single stocks or any of these sectors or indexes, I'd be a little bit careful with those. because of this sugar high that we're in right now. Okay, now, one of the people on CNBC that I do respect, Karen Feinerman, I do listen to her because she's like me. She's been in the trenches with trench warfare for over two decades, I'm sure, and saw the NASDAQ get clobbered in the year 2000. She says there's an AI land grab going on that's putting stock valuations in a frenzy. she believes that the artificial intelligence sector has become frenetic despite its long-term promise the investment expert expressed caution about current ai stock valuations noting that while ai will be enormous for our lives a long time she's increasingly uncomfortable this would describe my feeling with how to assess valuations in what she described as a land grab environment. So she's using a little bit of a different analogy here. It does feel very much like a frenzy pointing to creative deals like the AMD OpenAI partnership of indicators of the market's heated state. So anyways, despite her concerns, Feinerman acknowledged that her own definition of value and investments has evolved with the market. And she says, I mean, you can cite companies like NVIDIA and Netflix where you don't see that sugar high. I mean, they're definitely expensive. But you can definitely rationalize premium valuations. But when you get down to these companies with very little in the way of earnings or sales, that to me is where the really troubling area of this market is. So anyways, that comes from Karen Feinerman. Johnson & Johnson's hit... Now, how can a jury, this woman got mesothelioma from their talc powder, and they awarded her $966 million. Now, this is California. This is Los Angeles. How would you like to be the guy that ran the ad on TV? $966 million? Yeah, they didn't quite think it was worth a billion, but they did award her $966 million because the company's talc-based baby, I'd like to be the attorney that represented her, gets 30% of that. She got $16 million in compensatory damages and $950 million in punitive damages. Johnson & Johnson is going to have to appeal that one.
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How much did they have to pay for the entire suit initially? Because they've certainly settled some. I mean, that's a large number.
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Yeah, well, they should have settled. I mean, I'm sure they offered her something, and she said, no, let's roll the dice. And the dice came up $966 million, which...
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How do you arrive at that number? I'd like to see where it comes out on appeal. Granted, you can't really put a value on a life, but at some point, that's what they're doing. Well, it remains a major headwind for Johnson & Johnson, right?
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In April, a federal judge in Texas denied the company's third attempt to resolve the claims through a Chapter 11 bankruptcy of a specially created unit established to settle the cases. So they would love to get it all just settled and get that overhang because they've got all these ticking time bombs out there like this. Not counting if Tylenol, which was a Johnson & Johnson product, as far as I remember, does cause or is linked to, I haven't seen the science on that yet, is linked to, you know, the, what do you call it, autism. That's another huge cloud hanging over Johnson & Johnson's head.
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All right, now here's where we get into this. You want to guess what the institutional ownership real quick is?
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They own every share of Johnson & Johnson.
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73%.
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Yeah, and that's a problem because how do you move the stock? The only thing is to go out of the stock, really. You're not going to blow. But it has had a pretty good 12-month period of time. But over the last 10 years, it's been pretty much a disaster. Now, here's where we get into this bubblicious. I get emails almost every day about some new product being brought to the market by, oh, whether it's Putnam, whether it's this distributor or that distributor, Aries Management. I saw this one yesterday, and I see it in the news today. They're doing private infrastructure. Now, Barry, I would say the same thing about private infrastructure companies. Why do you need to invest in private infrastructure companies when there's a plethora of public... infrastructure companies that have looked immediate liquidity it's the same thing as the private their uh... reits that i don't think turned out very well in my opinion uh... those non traded reits had a buzz about them because all boy this is something product like private label on the shelf only certain people are allowed to buy this stuff you gotta know somebody No, these are private companies, highly illiquid. Why would you buy private infrastructure companies when you can go out and buy some of the best proven public ones in the world? It's just, there's your sugar high. We'll be right back.
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Go where you want to go. Do what you want to do with it. Whoever you want to be. Go where you want to go. Do what you want to do with it.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. A little bit more sugar high stuff here that I wanted to bring up. Let's see. We've got a couple of them jumped off the page at me here today. Nanonuclear raises $400 million in an oversubscribed... private placement okay there you go barry i mean there is so much of an appetite and so much demand uh for anything and of course nano nuclear all right so let's look uh at the uh i own a little bit of nano nuclear in my in my the same uh shoe box where i keep the lottery tickets and the uh You know, the futures on who's going to win the Super Bowl. Stuff like that. You know, your long-term bets. Nano's down 12.2% today because they're doing a secondary offering. They're floating more shares. I saw an article today, a company in Nevada, probably a rare earth miner, they got approval to raise their authorized shares to $1 trillion. Just in case. Just in case. Just in case. So they've got a printing press down in the basement printing shares and floating them, and they're usually oversubscribed when they put them out there for sale. Everybody makes money. The printer of the stock certificates, The brokers that sell them, there's big, big money in doing a secondary offering to the firm that does it. You have to distribute it. You have to sell those shares so the company hires an investment banker. Sometimes the big guys, the Goldman Sachs of the world, and they charge a fee. They charge lots of fees. That's all that M&A type stuff that you hear about. Now, Nano has zero in the way of sales in NE. They have zero in the way of earnings, obviously. Without any sales, you can't have earnings. You're burning money. It's a $2 billion market cap. Hopefully, you know, they come up with something. They're trying to develop portable, portable. You know, look, you can fire up your smoker at the church picnic with a little portable nuclear reactor, Barry. The pig is done in 30 seconds. It's a little on the blackened side, but dang. You know, that's a big deal around here doing whole pigs, right? You do that whole pig. Oh, man, is that good stuff. Wow. They smoke it all night long, you know. But now you can get a little portable nuclear over at the Home Depot. Anyways, it's down 13%. But, you know, when I teach the CANSLIM acronym, the S in CANSLIM is Shares Outstanding. You don't want a whole lot of shares outstanding because it gets very difficult to move a ship. There's got to be a lot of demand to come up to sop up that supply of shares that are out there. I can't even imagine a trillion shares. Unless they're a penny apiece or two cents apiece. But this floating of shares, why is Nano down 13.4%? They just eluded everybody with the private placement of $400 million. Another sugar high thing that I'm seeing happening is these companies that have no business plan whatsoever, you know what they're doing? They're circulating tokens. They're buying tokens. Or they're using the money to buy down-the-line cryptos. Not Bitcoin, but way down the line. They're getting into the Dogecoin category. safety shot which had a product supposedly if if somebody over uh indulges at the bar on a friday night they can give themselves a shot supposedly this was the hype behind the company and and it sobers them up and they'll pass the blood tests in case they get pulled over on the way home well it hasn't worked out So now they're circulating bonk tokens. Bonk? Yes. It's a meme coin platform, letsbonk.fun. So safety shot. This is the sugar high type of stuff. This is the tributary off of the tributary that rarely sees water, only in extreme high tides, king tides, which we're having one today. I'm watching it out my front door here. And our back window on the river.
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This is crazy stuff, right? Shot was called a rapid alcohol reducer. It'll sober you right up.
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You know, I'll tell you what else.
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Narcan for alcohol.
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When the tide starts going out on some of these little streams like we're seeing, that'll sober you right up, too, if you're invested in them. Here's another one. This was a weed stock, flora growth. Now they're acquiring 772,000 O0G tokens. How much is, is this like a Pokemon kind of thing, token? And they're going to pivot. They're going to rename the company Zerostack. They announced the purchase of 772,000 and they just raised $400 million in an offering to buy these zero G tokens. at $38.85 per share. Now, this is the crazy stuff. And the stock's up 7%, which is the sugar high you're talking about. Yeah, and how about the people that gave them $400 million in a private placement to get shares in this thing? Here's the company, Nevada. Here's another one, accepts FG Nexus. This is FGNX. You can look that up. They got approval by the Nevada and their articles of incorporation to increase the company's authorized shares to one trillion. What's it trade at? FGNX, like three cents a share or something like that. It's a piece of nuclear waste. Okay, here's another one. BitDigital. BTBT acquires 31,000 Ethereum coins using 150 million convertible notes offering. So some M&A advisor does this offering, packages it, sells it to folks, and now they own a bunch of Ethereum coins through their convertible notes. There's the sugar high area. When I see this, this is very, very troubling at the outer reaches of the market there. All right. Keep yourself safe out there. There's some small craft warnings flying right now coming from Gundersen Capital. Even though the market continues to hit new highs, gold hits new highs, to set up an appointment with us, 855-611-BEST, to get the newsletter four-week trial with the live trades, GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this thought-provoking episode, host Rick Hughes examines the intricate concepts of God's justice and righteousness, using scriptures from Jeremiah and other biblical references. Through a profound analysis, he challenges listeners to understand God's expectations and the importance of aligning oneself with divine principles rather than human emotions. Rick dives deep into historical contexts, highlighting the timeless essence of God's love and justice and their relevance in today's turbulent times.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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And if we're going to purchase time, we'd like to know we're being effective in that. So if you're listening somewhere, let us know that you're part of the program. We always appreciate that. We want to talk today about a subject that may be boring to some people, but to others, it might be quite interesting. As we see things happening in the world today, sometimes we wonder if God even pays attention. You know, there was a big thing going on a few years ago about God is dead, and that was a joke. God is not dead. God is never dead. So if you think God is dead, you've lost your morals. But God is aware of what's going on in this country, and nobody's going to get away with anything. Sometimes we wonder why the Lord doesn't step in and stop some of this foolishness that we see going on. So we're going to talk today about the justice of God, God's justice. We'll start out a little bit in Jeremiah 9, 23 and 24, where Jeremiah wrote these words after the fall of Jerusalem in 586 BC under Nebuchadnezzar. But the Jews, unfortunately, were not in the mood to listen to Jeremiah, so they fled to Egypt and probably where Jeremiah died in Egypt, but God's seeking those who know him. God's seeking those who understand him. And here's the key to this. He wants those who know him to understand his justice and his righteousness. Now, we understand that God is love. The Bible tells us that in 1 John 4, 8. God is love. And we know that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life. We know God loves you, and I know God loves me. Isn't that wonderful? God has a sense of humor. He can love a jerk like us, but he loves us. There's no doubt about that. Even when we fail, he loves us because it's called the unfailing love of God. So God says in Jeremiah, he wants us to understand his love, his justice, and his righteousness. And his love, you gotta remember now, that God's love is not emotional like our love. We get turned on by certain things, but God is not manipulated by emotions. And we have to learn not to live by our emotions as well, because emotions always react to situations. And when you have the right kind of mentality, which is the mind of Christ, you can respond to situations with faith rest, with using personal and impersonal love for God, things like this that we teach on The Flatline. So God is love, but he's not emotional love like ours, since it's part of his unchangeable essence. Because God is sovereign and God is immutable, that's the key word, immutable, he doesn't change. He loves us as much today as he did 100 years ago and as he will in the future. But you have to recognize this, that justice is like a guard. Justice stands guard over God's righteousness. And I will explain that to you. But if you put in your mind that justice is a guard standing there watching over the righteousness of God, then you'll understand what Jeremiah writes here because God knows everything. He sees everything and no one's going to escape his justice. I repeat, no one will escape his justice. He sees everything. 2 Chronicles 16, 9, for the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth to show himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to him. And that's all God's looking for is fidelity in your part, for you to be faithful, for you to be loyal. The question is, loyal and faithful about what? Well, number one, to represent the Lord Jesus Christ through your life as you grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ. as you become a mature believer, as you go through all the various tests, momentum testing that we face, you come to the place where you glorify Jesus Christ to the maximum in your life. So listen now as I read to you what Jeremiah said about the justice of God. It's very important that you understand this. Jeremiah 9, 23 and 24. This is what the Lord says. "'Don't let the wise man boast in his wisdom,' and don't let the strong man boast of his strength, and don't let the rich man boast of his riches, but let the one who boasts boast about this, that they have the understanding to know me, that I am the Lord, and I exercise kindness, justice, and righteousness on the earth. It's in these things that I delight, declares the Lord. Did you hear that? If you want to brag about something, don't brag about how much money you have, Don't brag about how much you can bench press or how strong you can curl some weights. Don't brag about how smart you are. Brag about you understand God. What do you need to understand? You need to understand his loving kindness. You need to understand his justice. And you need to understand his righteousness to those that are on this earth. Because he said here, these are the things I delight in, declares the Lord. My former pastor before he went to be with the Lord, R.B. Thiem, Jr., said these words. The justice of God is the guardian of the righteousness of God. And what the righteousness of God rejects or says no to, then the justice of God judges. You have to remember that. So if you think you're going to go to heaven because you're good and you don't smoke and you don't drink and you don't cuss and you don't dance and you don't do whatever, the righteousness of God will not be impressed because there's none that are righteous, no, not one, the Bible says. And if the righteousness of God is not impressed, then the justice of God will judge you. So here's an important principle to remember. It is impossible for God's justice to make a mistake. He can't do it. He's omniscient. Big words now. Omniscient, he's all-knowing. Omnipotent means he's all-powerful. And omnipresent means he's always present. That means that God can be in the Ukraine and God can be in America at the same time. And I'm sure a lot of people are praying in those two countries right now. He has the power to change anything, and he's smart enough to know what took place in eternity past. He's omniscient, and God knows what's going to take place in eternity future. He wrote it in the Bible for us. We just don't believe it. We kind of come to our own conclusion about what's going to happen in the future. Oh, the earth's going to be destroyed by green gas, and we're going to do this, and we're going to do that. You will never destroy this earth. Only God can do that. He told us in the Bible how it'll end. And he's in charge. He's omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient. He does not make a mistake. So here, listen carefully. I believe that this country, the United States of America, is under judgment from the justice of God. I think you probably would agree with me. I think as a whole, not everybody, but as a whole, this client nation, aka the United States of America, has rejected God's righteous standards. And we have allowed sin and evil to be normal and an accepted practice in our land. By George, we actually sanction and we actually endorse certain sinful practices instead of standing firm against them and saying no. It appears that we allow in this country sin to flourish And we don't think for one minute God is, don't you think for one minute God is overlooking this? He's not overlooking our immorality. He's not overlooking our deviant behavior. And the justice of God will judge us for what we do as a whole, as a client nation. Now why, why are we going to face national discipline? If I go to quote an Old Testament passage where God gives Ezekiel the reason for judgment on that nation, the nation that fell upon Jerusalem, the southern kingdom of Israel, who would later be defeated by Nebuchadnezzar. Listen what the reason for judgment was and see if it sounds familiar to you. Here's why God judged that nation, Ezekiel 33, 31. They come to you as people do. They sit before you as my people. They hear your words, but they do not do them, for with their mouth they show a lot of love, but with their heart they pursue their own gain. hypocrites, what we talked about recently in one of our studies, two-sided individuals. You go to church and you sit there all pious looking, all holy looking, got on your best Sunday go to meeting clothes and you're trying to smile, but you got the cell phone in your pocket waiting on some kind of text or checking out something on the social media graph. You hear the words of the pastor. But you don't do them. You don't apply them. You didn't even write them down. How can you remember what he said? You might remember one or two percent of what he taught you, but you were just too busy wondering what time lunch was going to be served. With your mouth, you sing, oh, I love the Lord. Yes, yes, I love the Lord. But your heart says something else. You go after what you want to go after. So listen again. This is a condemnation of our nation today and in most of our local churches. They come, they sit, they listen, but they don't obey. It's the same pattern in Christianity today. Come to church, hear what the preacher says, leave and forget it. Divine justice will not tolerate that. Divine justice will judge us because of that. We've had every opportunity to glorify God to the maximum, and the more prosperity we get, the deeper we slide into sin and degradation. This pattern in Christianity today is a bad pattern. People are going to be judged. This nation is going to be judged. Divine justice is going to be administered on this nation by means of the essence of God, his sovereignty, his righteousness, his justice, and his love. Does he love us? Yes. Does he forgive us in Christ Jesus? Yes. Can he forgive you as a Christian when you commit personal sin? Yes. If you rebound, if you do exactly what the Bible says, confess your sin to God, he'll be faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness. That's how we stay in fellowship with God on a daily basis. That doesn't have anything to do with our relationship. Our relationship never changes when we're in Christ Jesus. We're in the royal family of God. You don't lose the relationship, but you can break fellowship by sinning and not confessing the sin or not rebounding the sin. so ultimately any blessing any discipline any cursing to god has to come through his justice because it guards the righteousness of god and so as goes god's justice so goes god's blessing he approves or god's cursing he disapproves and i'm sure many pastors today would agree with exactly what I'm talking about here in this Old Testament lesson. They would agree that there's a lot of negative volition. They would agree that many believers are playing games with God. And we have a term for this. We call it the nod to God crowd. Hello, God. Good to see you this Sunday morning, God. See you next Sunday morning, God. Nod to God crowd. That doesn't cut it. That's not the spiritual life. You may be saved, you may be going to heaven, you may have eternal life guaranteed to you because of the sacrificial death of Christ on the cross, but this is not going to deliver your life and your nation in times of judgment. The nod to God crowd doesn't cut it. We need people like you, individuals who love the Lord Jesus Christ, who can grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and become effective representers of Christ to the community, to your friends, to the world, so that when people see you, they see Christ. So again, as goes God's justice, so goes either he blesses us or he curses us. So it's up to him. But the Bible does tell us these words in Luke 12, 48, for unto whom much is given, much will be expected. I don't know about you, but I think God might have given America a lot. He might have blessed us in many wonderful ways, more than we deserve. The prosperity that we've enjoyed over the past couple of centuries is phenomenal. We've been through hard times, yes. But if you look at the rest of the world and look at what we have, we've been blessed out of our boots. And what have we done with it? We've turned our back on him. We've kicked him out of the public arena. Oh, no, we can't have the nativity scene at the courthouse. That violates somebody's rights. Oh, no, you can't go into school and mention God. That's violating somebody's rights. We are crazy. The very God that's blessed us, the very God that sustained us, the very God that holds the future for us, we've ignored him and in our own arrogance consumed that we know better than he knows. As a client nation for God, that's us, in our generation, me and you, we've received a lot of blessings. We've received deliverance in some great world wars that we faced. However, you know this as well as I know this, we've begun to fracture internally. There appears that there's a great divide in America today, great divide. If you look at it like a jigsaw puzzle, you can see how we're fractured. We're fractured into various groups, various sects. You know, it can be a fracturing from racial prejudice, it can be a fracturing from political prejudice, a lot of different things that I can get into. I don't want to go into those illustrations, but there is a divide in America, and you can see it. And I can tell you what it's caused by. I can tell you that. It is created by neglect of God's design. Neglect of God's design. And as well as neglect or failure to submit to what the world, to what God teaches about divine viewpoint thinking. So this divide is created by neglect of God's design, and then you or me or someone else submitting to human viewpoint thinking. Remember the difference between human viewpoint and divine viewpoint. Divine viewpoint is the mind of Christ. It's what the Bible says. Human viewpoint is what some political activist would say or what some sports writer would say or some social pontificator might say. Human viewpoint thinking, if I want to get my marriage right, what should I do? And here's what old dear so-and-so says. What does the Bible say? What does the Bible say about your life? What does the Bible say about sin? Human viewpoint thinking justifies sin. Human viewpoint thinking says you're evil and you're mean if you don't like these people for what they do. You're cruel, and that's not true. As believers, we love people, but we hate the sin. So evil runs rampant across America today, especially in religion, especially in the family, and especially in politics. It's everywhere. Judges wrote about it in the last verse of Judges chapter 21, 25, where it says, in those days, in those days, there was no king in Israel and everybody did what was right in his own eyes. That's America today. No one wants to submit to the laws of establishment, freedom, marriage, family, nationalism. Listen, even if a person is not a believer, if they live by those four concepts, freedom, God designed you to be free, not enslaved. Marriage, God designed marriage before a right man and a right woman, not man and man, woman and woman, right man, right woman. And family, God sets up the family to teach authority orientation. To evangelize the children. I mean, this is what the family's all about. God ordains the family. And then nationalism, not internationalism, not the Tower of Babel where all the worlds come together to one religion, one thought. Internationalism is wrong. Nationalism is God ordaining one nation. And he put the Chinese over here, the Japanese over here, the Americans over here, the Indians over here, the Germans over there. Nationalism is one nation. God gives different languages, different locations. So we neglect all of that. And we do what's right in our own eyes. We do what we want to do. We justify with our arrogance why what I'm doing is right. I know the Bible says it's wrong, people say. I know the Bible says I shouldn't do that, but I don't believe the Bible, they say. They say this is right because I'm not hurting anybody. Well, that's not true. Whenever a client nation such as us, whenever we reject or they reject the righteous standards of God and begin to adopt and support satanic evil thinking, then national discipline from the justice of God is absolutely 100% sure to follow. You must understand the justice of God will not sit by and let us self-destruct. God will discipline us for the purpose of waking us up God will discipline your family for the purpose of waking you up. He will discipline you for the purpose of pulling you out of your hell-bent sin and self-destructive trend because that's what arrogance does. Arrogance is self-deception, self-absorption, self-destruction. And if you don't wake up, you will destroy your life because you have the ability to make decisions every day. And sooner or later, bad decisions are going to limit your future options. So if you reject the righteous standards of God's word, if you begin to adopt and support satanic evil thinking, then you are going to be guaranteed the justice of God will judge you if you're a Christian. If you're not a Christian, well, I can tell you where the justice of God judges you at the great white throne of judgment. There you will be cast into the lake of fire, not because God's mad at you, not because God doesn't like you, but because you rejected God's forgiveness in Jesus Christ. Now, why would God judge a nation? Because of all these bad things I'm talking about? Well, partially, but here's the real truth about it. Listen to Hosea 4, 6. This is the condemnation on Israel. My people are destroyed, that's judgment, for lack of knowledge, lack of knowledge. It's the same thing about the sins they committed, the lack of knowledge. Because you rejected knowledge, I will reject you from being a priest for me because you forgot the laws of your God. I will forget your children. What did that passage say that God is looking for? He's looking for those who understand him and know him, that he is the Lord who exercises loving kindness, justice, and righteousness. That's the knowledge that you're rejecting. That's the knowledge we don't want in America today. We don't want to know God. Why? Because he's going to tell us that's not right. You can't do that. You're killing yourself. You're destroying your nation. And we are determined to wipe out and destroy this nation. And it all comes from satanic thoughts, satanic opposition. We're a client nation. We send out missionaries to the world. We're a client nation. We're a haven for the Jews. We're a client nation. We're the guardian of the word of God and reteach the word of God. You think Satan likes that? You think Satan wants that to go on? No. And so Hosea said, warned the Israelites, my people are destroyed. because they lack knowledge, knowledge of what? Knowledge of God's loving kindness, knowledge of God's justice, and knowledge of God's righteousness. Whatever the justice of God judges, it's because the righteousness of God rejects it. And if someone goes to hell and winds up in the lake of fire, it's not because God's mad at them, it's because they rejected the righteousness of Christ. and they tried to establish their own righteousness. And since that didn't work, the justice of God has to judge them. So either, you gotta get this right, either you're going to adjust to the standards of God's justice or you're going to force the justice of God to adjust to you. It's your choice. Either you adjust to God's justice or God's justice will adjust to you. You have to adjust to the justice of God in salvation That's true. When Jesus Christ was on the cross, our sins were poured out on him and judged by the justice of God on his own son. Listen to 1 Peter 2.24. Who himself bore our sin in his own body on the tree that we, having died to sin, might live for righteousness, that's the righteousness of God, by whose stripes you are healed. Christ was judged by the justice of God. and took your place so that you can have the righteousness of God. Where did I get that? 2 Corinthians 5, 21. He made him who knew no sin to be sin for us so that we can become the righteousness of God by means of him. So our righteousness is provided by means of God's judgment on his only anointed son, our savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. So if you try to earn God's favor by equaling his perfect righteousness, you're gonna die in your trespasses and sins because no one can produce perfect righteousness with the exception of only the Lamb of God. Isaiah 64, six says, all we like sheep, we're all an unclean thing. All of our righteousnesses are like a filthy rag. We all fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. You cannot manufacture your own righteousness. If you try, you will force the justice of God to judge you. Now, also, when you use problem-solving device number one, which we call rebound, 1 John 1, 9, then we are using God's provision provided by his justice for our cleansing. But if you try to make up your sin to God in your own power, if you try to promise God you're never gonna do it again, you're going to only offend his righteous standards. You can't do that. The only way you can be forgiven is to use rebound in time. That's provided by God's justice through Christ. So you can reinstate the filling of the Holy Spirit and escape the control of your flesh if you do what the Bible says, 1 John 1, 9. If you don't, then you're going to go into subsequent carnality. The righteous standard of God is equally offended when we seek to live the Christian life under a system of religion. And if that's your lifestyle, the justice of God will kick out all of your good works at the judgment seat of Christ. Not going to work. The Supreme Court of Heaven tells us that. It won't work. 1 Corinthians 3, 11 through 16. All of your good deeds, if they're done in the energy of the flesh, will be kicked out. There is a Supreme Court in Heaven, so relax. And we don't vote on who's going to be on that court. God does it himself. The Lord Jesus Christ is the judge. It's the last court of appeals in history, as well as the court of personal justice for individual believers. It's a court which administers both personal and collective justice. And this court, the Supreme Court of Heaven, has the highest jurisdiction ever. and overrules anything that Satan tries to do as an authority and the ruler of this own world, Satan himself is subject to this court. You may face this court. You will if you're a believer. It's called the judgment seat of Christ. And if you're unbeliever, it's the great white throne of judgment. The Supreme Court of Heaven is open 24 hours a day. We always say that. If you have an iniquity and an injustice that you've been treated to, go to the Supreme Court of Heaven, lay it at the feet of God, and step back and let God's justice handle it. He knows what's going on, and he will deal with it. Maybe not in your time, maybe not when you want it dealt with, but it will be dealt with. Does this make sense? I sure hope so. I hope you're listening. I hope you're learning. On text next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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It, of course, is a big day. It's October the 7th. It's two years ago today that hundreds of men, women, and children were slaughtered by Hamas. There's a beautiful essay that Brad Parscale wrote over at townhall.com. He writes that those of us who know really know better, those of us who lived through 9-11, those of us who understand that radical Islamists want to destroy the world we know and replace it with something far darker, those of us who know better have a duty to fight while there's still time. And what's at stake isn't abstract. This isn't just about personal faith, he writes, or what we believe. What we're fighting for is a country that celebrates God-given rights, democracy, liberty, the rule of law, freedom of religion and speech, traditional families. These principles connect the Greeks, the Romans, the Magna Carta, the Declaration of Independence to the Ten Commandments. It defines who we are. as a people. And in the Middle East, Brad writes over at townhall.com, Israel is standing on the front lines of this same fight. Israel faces daily threats from radical terrorists and authoritarian regimes that chant death to Israel, death to America. It's not a slogan, Brad points out. It's a mission statement. They understand that Israel and America's history and therefore our mutual destiny are inextricably intertwined. Look, you've got to take a side. And for me, it's real simple. This isn't about Democrats versus Republicans, right versus left. It isn't even about right or wrong. It's good versus evil. And if you want to conflate Israel's defense And essentially wiping Gaza off the map, considering what Hamas has done and how Hamas has used civilians as human shields, used hospitals, cafes, schools, to almost dare Israel to kill innocent people. The choice is clear. It's a complicated issue. I'm not pretending it's not. I get that it's complicated for some. But ultimately, there is a clarity that we all ought to possess. There is an understanding that if Israel put down their arms today, they'd be obliterated. If the Palestinians put down their arms today, there would be peace in the Middle East. You know it, and I know it. I am very proud to partner this month with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And on this important day, October 7th, you can tell the people of Israel that you're with them by supporting the fellowship. There's a banner posted at the top of my website, mikeonline.com. You can make a generous donation. Any size gift, $25, $50, $100. Your donation will rush a food box to a Jewish person in need in Israel. And your gifts will support building more bomb shelters for the people of Israel and many other life-saving security projects of the fellowship. And thanks to a generous fellowship supporter, for a limited time, your gift will be doubled. 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They've got security footage of the former Jets quarterback, Mark Sanchez, who's now a big commentator. I think he's on Fox, right guys? He's like a commentator, an NFL broadcaster. And he was in Indy for a game. gets into an argument with a 60-something-year-old truck driver because the guy's got his truck parked at a loading dock, which evidently is where it was supposed to be. But Mark Sanchez, who was allegedly drunk as a skunk, gets into an altercation with the guy. Have you seen the pictures of the guy in the hospital? The guy's got his face split wide open. Sanchez evidently, and this guy get into it, and the guy tries to pepper spray Sanchez to defend himself. That doesn't work. So he stabbed him a couple of times. Mark Sanchez could have died. He was admitted to the hospital in critical condition and then winds up getting arrested. Arrested. So, look, I don't know how to get into the X's and O's of this altercation, but here's what I do know. And I see this every day here in New York or when I'm back in Florida or anywhere I travel around the country. There is so much anger right now in America. People are turning on each other and it is kind of wild. I always have a rule. The rule I have is Count to ten. I think about road rage all the time. I think about fights. I think about people arguing with each other on the subway or bumping into one another in the mall. And before you know it, somebody's dead. To me, the takeaway of the Mark Sand... And I want you to join me here. Fill up my phone lines. You know me, love loaded lines. It's Tuesday, October 7th. We've got a lot to cover here in the Relief Factor Studios. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. To me, the only takeaway, the most important takeaway, is this. Count to ten. Think that the other person might have the ability to kill you. Consider before you start yelling at a stranger over... getting cut off on the highway, or bumped into on an elevator. Consider the fact that before you get into an argument with that person, that person might be himself unhinged, and he might have a gun or a knife, and your life's going to be over. And you're going to leave your wife, a widow, you're going to leave your kids without a dad, you're going to leave your children without a mother, whatever it is. There is just so much anger going And there's a lesson here. The lesson is, take a breath. It isn't worth it. Life is short. Don't shorten it because you're in some stupid road rage argument with a truck driver in Indianapolis. I mean, to me, that's the whole story here. Give me your take on all of it. I want you to join us. 15 past the hour. Number is 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Don't play the fool. Get your act together. Take a breath. 800-655-MIKE. Join us. Everybody plays the fool sometimes. You know how much I care about family, tradition, and the kind of meals that bring people together. 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So here's the way the New York Post has covered this bizarre story involving Mark Sanchez. His friends and former teammates are baffled by the charges levied against him and asking how the nice guy quarterback wound up bloody on an Indiana street accused of savagely attacking a 69-year-old truck driver with hearing aids following a drunken night out. No more Mr. Nice Guy? People are asking about Mark Sanchez? And his friends and colleagues are calling this. He was arrested. I mean, the guy wound up being charged in the hospital room, stabbed in the torso. There's video surveillance of him bloody. But you ought to see the guy, the other guy, the 69-year-old truck driver. Here's a guy nearly 70. He's all slashed open and big, huge gash down his cheek, blood everywhere. What in the world happened? Pennsylvania sent a text message on the MyPillow text line, alcohol is not for everyone. Well, that's the truth. But I would also urge you to take a lesson from this. Count to ten. Take a breath. You don't need to get into it. It amazes me to watch. And we've all done it. We've all flipped off somebody driving down the highway. Somebody cuts you off. You're mad. You're honking. They're flipping you off. You're flipping them off. And before you know it, somebody's killed. Was it worth it? As you're bleeding out on the side of the road because the guy you flipped off shot you, was it worth it? Did you feel better that you gave him the middle finger? There really has to be kind of a reckoning here that we're all just too angry. We're all just too prone to instantaneous road rage. Jason's in Columbus, Ohio. Hey, Jason, how are you? Hey, Mike, how are you today? Fine, fine.
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What's up? Good. So a quick comment. My wife does this really funny thing, and maybe it's because she's a mother of four and she kind of has that matronly aura. When someone engages with her in traffic, she just kind of shakes her head and gives them a thumbs down. It's the most disarming thing you'll ever see. People can just be enraged, and she'll give them this thumbs down and kind of this disappointed look. And they just kind of avert their eyes and put their head down a little bit and go about their business. I like that. I like that. don't get the middle finger, just give a thumbs down and just keep going along your way.
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I like that. Have you ever noticed how it works that sometimes when, if you honk at somebody because they've cut you off, how they become aggressive towards you? They're the ones that did the wrong thing, but they go on the offensive.
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I mean, it's holding the mirror up and then, you know, now they've been almost like being held accountable for an action versus going, oh man, I'm so sorry because I don't know about you, but if I cut somebody off, I feel terrible. I wave.
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Oh, I'm shrugging. I'm saying I'm sorry. I'm mouthing I'm sorry. I feel terrible if I've cut somebody off. But a lot of times, people who cut somebody off, again, you're right. It's projection. It's the weirdest aspect of human nature. And this happens all the time. When you might be minding your own business in your lane, somebody cuts right in front of you, almost causing you to crash. You might just honk to let them know you're there. And then they're mad at you. They turn around and they're flipping you off and they're mad at you and they're yelling at you. And you haven't done anything wrong. But what do you have any other takeaway on this Mark Sanchez story? 25 past the hour. We've got an open line. 800-655-MIKE. We'll stay in Ohio where Marshall is standing by. Marshall, how are you? Hey, Mike. Thanks for taking my call. You're a great man. You bet. God bless you. Glad you called. Thank you.
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Hey, you know, first of all, we need more prayer. You bet. Christ is going to bring peace. So we need more prayer.
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This is what I think. This is what I think that his defense team will do. If you look back at his career, he was sidelined several times with concussions. So I think they're going to use post-concussion syndrome as a defense for him. But he's looking at six years in prison. I watched it on the news. They charged him with a felony yesterday.
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I saw that. I saw that. And you're right, he could be up to six years in prison. But here's the funny thing about the concussion defense. Does a concussion defense include getting drunk? Because that's apparently the allegation was that he was half in the bag. Think that something happened there that could cause it? Look, there's... I will tell you this. It always blows my mind how somebody's life just gets completely upended by one bad night. This guy's, I mean, he's ruined, right? How does he come back? Surely Fox will fire him. He's going to face felony charges. Might wind up in prison for a number of years. And here he was, former NFL quarterback, big star for the New York Jets. Fox, a color analyst on Fox and Fox Sports? And it's all down the drain now. For what? For one drunken night on the town? PhD weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind? You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off, like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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I have some bad news for you. The liberal hippies are singing again, this time in Portland, Oregon, where liberals are very upset. The left is very angry at law enforcement carrying out the deportation of illegal immigrants. Doesn't matter that... As they are rounding up illegals, they're capturing rapists and murderers and drug addicts and pedophiles. It doesn't matter. No, no, no, no, no. This land is our land. You can't take it from us, Donald Trump. ICE, you can't do it. The mayor of Chicago, incidentally, has signed an executive order creating... wait for it, ICE-free zones to try to block federal law enforcement from carrying out their duties. I said this yesterday. I cannot even believe we're watching the implosion of the Democrat Party the way we're watching it. It's kind of a crazy thing to observe. And these big... These big... Huge cities with Democrat leadership that are failing abysmally ought to be a wake-up call. Ought to be a big-time wake-up call. In fact, here in New York, they've got a decision to make in a few weeks about the future of this city. And there are three men left in the mayoral race. You've got, of course, Eric Adams, the incumbent, who's dropped out. to try to boost any chance of defeating Zoran Mamdani. And the only two people who can stop him are Andrew Cuomo, the disgraced former governor of New York, and our pal Curtis Sliwa. And look, the election is almost here. Tonight we're going to have a big online town hall featuring Kevin McCullough as moderator, Joe Piscopo, Both of these guys, dear friends and colleagues of mine here in New York City. Hugh Hewitt will be with us. I'll be on air. We've got Dottie Herman, a whole bunch of special people. You go to am970theanswer.com. You can order your tickets. and they're free. The stream is available, and we've got, I think, thousands of people already signed up. You just go to am970theanswer.com or our show website, mikeonline.com, and get your ticket. Again, they're free. You just got to go through kind of a registration process, and you'll get the instructions on how to watch. It's going to begin at 7 p.m. Eastern tonight, and I hope you can take part. We hope to see you there. I'm very much looking forward to this because this guy's got to be stopped. I have been doing some soul searching. I just talked to our phone screener, Alex, in the hall, who's just really in a bad mood. He said, look, this is the second anniversary of October 7th. I just feel so angry about it. I feel so down. I feel so frustrated. And Alex said something that I have said for years. How lucky we are to have a show like this where we can kind of air our grievances, wear our emotions on our sleeve. I do a great deal of soul searching. And if you've been with me for a while, you know I'm a pretty emotional guy. Highs and lows. I'm like everybody else. I do my best. Try to keep my head down. I try to do the best job I can do for you. And I have made a mistake over this New York City mayor's race. And it took my friend Mark Davis this morning to sort of convince me. The conventional wisdom is that Andrew Cuomo, this disgraced, disgusting, failed governor, and he is on every level, just not a good guy. And everybody knows it. Everybody knows what he did during COVID. Everybody knows how his policies led to thousands of elderly people dying in nursing homes. Everybody knows all of his own transgressions. This is not somebody that you can enthusiastically pull a lever for. But Curtis Lewa, the founder of the Guardian Angels, is a law and order, common sense, Republican candidate for mayor. Now, I understand the dynamic that if New York stupidly elects a communist to be the mayor, okay, watch New York crash and burn, but boy, that'll be great for the rest of the country because 49 other states are going to be filled with voters who are going to look in horror and in shock at this failed experiment. And Mark said something today. He actually has said it a few times. And today, for the first time, it stuck. He said, Mike, you've got to do the right thing. If Curtis is the best candidate, you can't call on Curtis to step down. If anybody ought to step down, it's this disgrace, Andrew Cuomo. So that if it's one-on-one and it's Curtis versus Zoran Mamdani, maybe, just maybe, Curtis has a chance. Now, again, conventional wisdom doesn't. says that isn't going to happen. The Kurdish doesn't have a path to win. You want to know what conventional wisdom also said about 2016? That there's no way Donald Trump can beat Hillary Clinton. At one point, she had a 93% likelihood of winning. And I have been thinking about this and praying about it and struggling, and it is a struggle, but I am not... going to fall prey to conventional wisdom any longer. Mark is right. You've got to be all in for Curtis Lewa. And I am. And I absolutely am. I saw Rudy Giuliani endorsed him yesterday for mayor. A lot of endorsements are coming in for Curtis. He's got a lot of momentum. I have no idea if he even has a chance. But as an American who loves this country and loves this city, listen, this was a dream of mine to come work and live here. And for me to say, well, I'm going to abandon my pal Curtis. I know he'd be great, but he doesn't really have a path. I guess you've got to hold your nose and vote for Andrew Cuomo if you're a resident of New York. No. No. You've got to do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may. I support Curtis Sliwa for mayor, not Andrew Cuomo, and certainly not Zoran Mamdani. You do the right thing, and you see how it plays out. Every New Yorker has a stake in this election in a few weeks, and supporting Curtis is the only option. And I'm sorry that I wavered. I've struggled with this, and I've shared. This is the beauty of this show. I love how I get to, when I struggle, my struggles are your struggles. I don't suffer in silence. So you know something? I apologize for wavering in my support for Curtis Lewa. I apologize for going down the pragmatic path and saying, well, Curtis has got to do the right thing for the city. He needs to drop out. No, Cuomo should drop out because Cuomo, frankly, shouldn't even be in the hunt. The one that should drop out is the disgraced ex-governor, not Curtis Lewa. So let him drop out. And I was wrong to even suggest that the only path would be for Curtis Lewa to drop out. I wholeheartedly and enthusiastically support Curtis, and that's what I should have done from day one. And I hope you will, too. Let's see where you stand with all of this. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. We're in the Relief Factor studios. It is Tuesday, October the 7th. We're going to have a very special tribute to some of the people we interviewed in Israel shortly after the October 7th terror attacks. And we do have an opportunity for you to step up and support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. We've got a lot to do today. But let me get your reaction to this mayor's race for a few minutes. And again, hope you accept my apology. If you don't, you don't. It's okay. But I just come to you with my hat in my hand, and I admit to you that I blew it. I shouldn't have wavered. I shouldn't have waffled. I should have been with Curtis completely and 110% all along. And I am, and I will be. And we're going to see how it plays out. because let's not let the pundits and conventional wisdom defeat us. Curtis Sliwa ought to be the next mayor of New York City. Not Andrew Cuomo, and certainly not the commie, Zoran Mamdani. Let's get your reaction to all of it. Call or text, join us, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Welcome in to a Tuesday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show here in New York City in the Salem News Channel Studios. It's all right when you've got the feeling. 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Can we stop with the pro-clutching about the mean tweets and some rare tweets? This week it came to light that a Democrat candidate for Attorney General of the state of Virginia called for the assassination of a political opponent, called for the assassination of that political opponent's family, and there's not one national Democrat calling for him to step aside. Not one. It's disgraceful.
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The Democrat... Some cops need to be killed and maybe then the cops will stop killing other people. That's the guy who wants to be Virginia's top attorney general, this Jay Jones character. You've got Zoran promising free stuff. So, look, New Yorkers are going to have a choice. And the reason it's an important issue on this show is that it is more than just a New York issue. The whole country is watching this mayor's race. And if it goes south, and if an actual communist, a Democrat socialist named Zoran, becomes the mayor of New York City, and this city is damaged badly, the rest of the country is going to say, see what the Democrats have become? And if you're just joining us, I started the hour with a formal apology for even wavering or waffling in any way, shape, or form. for supporting Curtis Lewa. Of course you have to support Curtis. If you're a Republican, you vote for the Republican. If you support law and order, you vote for the law and order candidate. If you believe in fiscal sanity, you vote for the fiscally sane candidate. You vote for Curtis. You don't turn around and say, well, I'm going to hold my nose, and Curtis probably ought to step down, and I don't know about the red beret, and I don't know about the polls, and I don't like the data. No, you do the right thing. You do the right thing. Ron is in Greenville. Ron just dropped off. Sorry, Ron. I hate that you waited that long. Joe's in New Jersey. Joe, welcome to the show.
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Mike, love you, always have, and I think one reason is you are never reluctant to admit when you're wrong.
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I just wish I wasn't wrong so often.
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Well, it makes you human. I still got you beat tenfold, Mike.
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I hear you.
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We're all fallen. We all make mistakes. Well, you know, in this case, you were right then and you're right now. But I think the difference is now there's such a clear moral choice. And if you want to compare this to anything, what if in 1860 we encouraged Abraham Lincoln to get out of the race? What's his name? John Bell of the Constitutional Union Party could have beat the Southern Democrats.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What if what if a Stephen Douglas supporter said, oh, come on, Abe, you got to step down. You got to be. Well, look at 2016. Could have said the same thing. They were given Hillary a 93 percent chance of winning. She wasn't supposed to lose. And you could say, you know what, I love Trump, but, you know, I've got to be pragmatic. It's the same exact equation here. I don't know what's going to happen, but you know what I do know? God knows. It's in God's hands, and it's in the voters' hands. Now, let me ask you a question. As somebody from New Jersey, do you think your neighboring state, do you think New Yorkers can come to their senses before it's too late for this city?
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You know, Mike, I hope so. And I know I actually work in New York virtually, and all of my Republican and conservative friends and people of faith, they just keep their mouth shut. And I hope there's this movement, the Charlie Kirk movement, where people just aren't afraid now to speak up and talk about immorality. This DA... With the threatening murder of his opponent?
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The Attorney General. Yeah, the Attorney General candidate. Yeah, Jay Jones.
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Mike, I need to ask you. Was that part of the reason why you've changed your mind on this?
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Oh, the Virginia race? No, I think, again, the way I've kind of evolved on this is just my friend Mark Davis, who said, look, you've got to do the right thing here. If you're a Republican, be a Republican. And he's right. And then as we were talking about it this morning, it just hit me. What if we all sat around and said, well, Hillary's going to likely win, so we've got to vote for her. No, you do the right thing. And let God sort it out. Let the voters do the right thing here. And if New Yorkers are idiotic enough... to buy what this snake oil salesman is selling. Free stuff. Free bus rides. Well, who doesn't want a free bus ride? Free subway rides. Well, you know, the people that don't want to pay for subways, they just jump over the turnstile. They're stealing. You want a shoplift? Go shoplift. He's not going to arrest people. You go into a Duane Reade or a CVS here in New York City, they've still got... half the store under plexiglass, all the items. You want to know why? Because all the shoplifters who never get prosecuted. I mean, they've lit people on fire on the subways here in New York City. It is time for New Yorkers to wake up. But they may not do so. There is a contempt... that people on the left have for cops, for the rule of law, for peace. I mean, look at the mayor of Chicago. Cut number three. Here's Brandon Johnson denouncing what he calls... President Trump and the federal government's war on Chicago. What's Trump's crime? He's trying to clean up the streets of Chicago. He's trying to end the crime, the lawlessness, the gang violence, the black on black crime, the black on white crime, the white on black crime, the shootings, the stabbings, the rapes, the murders. And here's the mayor of Chicago.
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Today I stand with all of our elected officials and community leaders in denouncing President Trump's declared war on Chicago and Illinois. I am proud the city of Chicago is joining the state of Illinois in our lawsuit against the Trump administration's unlawful deployment of the National Guard in our city and in our state. I've promised that the city of Chicago will do everything in our power to protect the constitutional rights of all Chicagoans.
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How would you like to be a crime victim in Chicago with that clown as your mayor? How would you like to be somebody who – what about your friends, your neighbors, your coworkers, your fellow churchgoers who've suffered violence at the hands of criminals? The Democrats are pro-criminal. This guy's pro-criminal, pro-crime. Illegal immigration, of course, is a crime. And Americans voted for Donald Trump by a wide margin, contrary to Kamala's lie. Oh, it's the closest race ever. Oh, we were neck and neck. He doesn't have a mandate. Yeah, every swing state, lady. The popular vote. It really wasn't close because Americans have had it. Americans have had it with failed Democrat policies. And in a way, if... Zoran Mamdani wins, you're going to see a nationwide revolt against the Democrat Party. Establishment Democrats are terrified of what's happening here in New York. Why do you think a lot of these big shot Democrats have still not endorsed this guy? Because they know they're endorsing socialism and communism and anarchy and chaos and crime and misery. Businesses are going to flee from this city. The NYPD is going to have a mass exodus. And they're going to deserve it all. They're going to deserve it. They're going to get what they deserve. Hope it doesn't happen. I really do. Speaking of Chicago, I'm thrilled. I found out yesterday I'm part of the Freedom Summit agenda in Chicagoland. It's Saturday. I want to make sure I get the date right. I think it's November the 8th. If you go to am560theanswer.com, I'm sure you can find details, but I'll be giving you more information about it. It looks like I'm going to hopefully be doing a one-on-one with Sean Thompson. And I remember him. He was a caller to my show before he became a host. And some of the best hosts are people who started out as callers. Of course, Dan Proft will be there, and I believe Dr. Ben Carson is going to be there, and Scott Jennings. And I'll be there as well. So make it a day. Come on out and see us for the big Freedom Summit. It's a huge, huge event. that they've done a great job at AM560, The Answer in Chicago, over the years, the Freedom Summit. I can't wait to meet you in person. Hope to see you there Saturday, November the 8th, right, Eric? You said the 8th, right? Yep, so check that out. I'm also going to be in the upstate of South Carolina next week. They have a big client appreciation dinner. I'll be there as well for that. Going to be putting up some frequent flyer miles in the next few weeks. And tonight, of course, is the big Mayor's Town Hall streaming event that you're invited to. If you go to mikeonline.com or am970theanswer.com, you can get your tickets. They're free. But it will be a very important conversation hosted by Kevin McCullough, and Joe Piscopo will be involved, and Hugh Hewitt. I'll be there, Dottie Herman, a whole bunch of great folks. I think my buddy Arthur Idalla can't be on the broadcast tonight because he's got another engagement. He's a very busy guy, a very popular attorney. But I don't want you to miss that. That's tonight. Again, for tickets, mikeonline.com or go to am970theanswer.com.
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Dive into a whirlwind episode featuring the quirky tales of Florida Man, Senator John Kennedy's thoughts on political antics, and a series of eyebrow-raising headlines you won't believe are true. From dashing wrong-way drivers to the humorous chronicles in Kennedy's new book, this episode offers a unique view into the bizarre and the insightful. Join us as we unravel the curious escapades of life, politics, and everything in between, while relishing the humor that keeps us all sane. Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana gives us a candid look into the inner workings of Washington, sharing stories that blend homespun wisdom with political savviness. Listen in for a discussion on the Justice Department, political violence, and government shutdowns, all delivered with Kennedy's signature wit and insight. This episode is not just about headline-grabbing stories but also a deeper conversation about the heart of American politics and the people shaping it.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So a dash cam shows a man weaving through traffic, in and out of traffic, construction sites, driving the wrong way. And when the Florida Highway Patrol caught up to him, he told the trooper, I just didn't want to get caught. Duh. Like no, we thought you drove like that all the time. Well, maybe he does. He was driving the wrong way down I-95. The wrong way, like at a pretty fast speed. It all happened on October 1st. Troopers spotted the white Honda driving northbound on Eye Near. At first he was on the shoulder and then he like weaved into traffic. Troopers tried to attempt to stop, but then he sped off. Then he entered a construction zone and then he apparently stopped at a steep ledge when he couldn't drive anymore. The trooper ran the suspect. The suspect was able to maneuver out. He was trying to get out of the construction site. Finally, they got him. And the suspect, as the trooper takes him into custody, says, quote, I just didn't want to get caught. That's all. I didn't want to get caught. And he told the trooper that he fled because he didn't have insurance. And the trooper goes, whoa, that's just a ticket. Now look what you did. You know how many people's lives you put at risk? So he was taken to the pokey. That's where he went. Let's see. This was yesterday. This... Oh, no. This is the weird... Okay, today, this is... I don't know how I'm going to say this headline. Kane, maybe you can say this headline for me. This is... I feel like I'm 10 if I read this. Is this real? This is not real. I don't believe this.
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This is the first time I'm seeing this.
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I don't believe this. Hang on. Hang on.
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Oh, man.
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I got it because I'm not reading the story if it's satire. No. Oh. Oh. Oh, my gosh. It's actually a real story. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So, police. Here's the headline. A guy was caught.
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Oh, crap. This is real.
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Defecating on a possum. What? Out in the middle of public.
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I didn't know that was a law.
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Was there public or private? What? 45-year-old Florida man. Oh, it was a dead possum.
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That's terrible.
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So basically he's trying to make some Toms of Maine deodorant. You have the dead possum and then he's, you know, he was detained and read his rights. He denied it even. And then he told the cop that he doesn't see straight. Oh, And I guess pretended to be cross-eyed. I don't know. He got charged with a misdemeanor for exposure of sexual organs and he got booked on. It was like a $150 bond. I don't know if he bonded out. I don't even know what that the officer, the troopers or the the. Yeah, the law enforcement officer said, yeah, physical evidence was like totally was viewed at the scene. The action was viewed in full public. He I don't.
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So the charge wasn't pooping on a dead possum. It was just exposure of his genitals.
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Now, the sores on his face indicate meth. Just saying. It's pretty methed up.
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Or something worse.
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Yeah. But by the way, I hope he didn't kill the possum. They didn't actually get into that because possums are actually great. They're weird, but they're great. So I don't know. Let's see here. This. Oh, I got you know what? I got a Villages story with that involves real villagers. Man, these golf carts. OK, how do you run a golf cart up on like a memorial of stone? So a golf cart driver is being sought in a hit and run that damaged a memorial in the villages. It's not like the guy's hard to find. He's in a golf cart. He's not diminutive in size. It's Lady Lake. They're trying to find this guy. He ran over a marble stone marker. And there's CCTV footage. So how are you having trouble finding him? I mean... It's CCT footage. They people were helping. He like ran over it and totally knocked his golf cart down. People helped him put the golf cart upright and then he just drove away. They didn't report it. And it damaged the memorial. It's like fifteen hundred dollars in damages. And he drove over one curb, and then he went over another curb, and then hit the memorial. And he over... He just, like... His golf cart just overturned. He just sort of, like, fell to the side like a fainting goat. And he was speeding pretty quick. Oh, man. This is... I... If I didn't know better, I'd say it was a woman driver. All Family Pharmacy is a family-owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications you need when you need them the most. With over 200 essential medications available, including antibiotics, antivirals, things like ivermectin, emergency kits, and more, they have you covered for everything from daily prescriptions to biohacking support. Each order includes a doctor's prescription, so there's no hassle or middleman. Plus, with fast shipping options, including overnight delivery, your medications arrive quickly right to your door. And as flu season approaches, now is the time to stock your medicine cabinet with essentials like Tamiflu, antibiotics, and vitamins to help keep you and your family healthy. Being proactive with your health is smarter than reacting too late. And beyond basics, All Family Pharmacy offers biohacking products like NAD+, Methylene Blue, and so much more, all designed to boost energy, focus, immunity, and even weight management. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 to save 10% today. Don't wait. Be ready for flu season with All Family Pharmacy. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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So I got to tell you, we have a thing in my house, my youngest son who watches the news. You know, he's very politically conservative, you know, very good Christian young man. And he just very quietly watches the news and watches this. And I noticed that he started introducing some new isms into his life. uh verb verbiage he started introducing some new sayings to his repertoire and i'm like some of this sounds familiar and then i realized he's been watching senator john kennedy from louisiana and literally like hijacking his sayings and i said i'm pretty sure i heard senator kennedy say this before he goes he's one of he's like he's my favorite in the senate he said he's hysterical So he's got all of the he's got this huge group of kids, college campuses that really like what he says. He joins us now via video. Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana, his new book, How to Test Negative for Stupid and Why Washington Never Will is on sale today. There's the book cover right there. Senator, a pleasure to have you. We've tried for a while to get you on. And so it's a real treat for us. Welcome.
SPEAKER 04 :
The pleasure is mine, Dana. And I like your son already.
SPEAKER 02 :
You guys would be very good friends. You would be very good friends. He has a very similar sense of humor. But whenever you're on, he stops what he's doing. And he's got to go and watch what you're going to say. He's like, he's going to say something. It's what he tells us. And you do. You deliver every time, Senator. And your book, I love this. Because this has, there's this reporter that I studied in school named Joe Mitchell. And it has a very Joe Mitchell vibe to it. It's just very homespun. And it gets into... you know, your beginnings and your experiences in Washington. And I got to tell you, one of the things that you had said recently, I about died laughing. You said that Lindsey Graham would vomit in your fish tank. Is that a true story, Senator?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it did. What I said about Lindsey was I said, I love Lindsey because he's unpredictable. I said, if you had if you invite him to your home for dinner, he'll either come and have a interesting dinner conversation or he'll get drunk and vomit into your fish tank. You just never know what you're going to get with Lindsey. But Lindsey is just, I talk about him in the book. Lindsey's a rock star.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes. And you, I love the way that you describe Your colleagues, you said of Chuck Schumer, when he cuts loose, he's like a five year old in a Batman costume on a sugar high. And it's funny, but it also you really get a very good idea of who these individuals are, the way that you know them, because we don't know them the way that you know them. What inspired you to write this book?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'd been thinking about it a while, and I finally sat down at my dining room table at home with a handheld dictaphone, and I started dictating. And then, of course, they put it in the computer, and the computer spits out words, and I edited that, and I edited it, and I edited it, and I had an editor at HarperCollins And after five or six edits, we finally produced the book. It's not a book about policy per se, Dana. It's a storybook, but I use the stories to talk about policy. And many of the stories are funny. Some of them are bizarre. They're all true. I wrote the book to explain to people what the Senate is really like behind the scenes to explain to people why in Washington DC normal is just a setting on the clothes dryer and to try to help people understand why it doesn't have to be this way. We just have a return to some common sense. It's a pretty broad ranging book. I hope it makes people think. may make you laugh, may make you day drink. But it's all true.
SPEAKER 02 :
You have to have a good sense of humor, I would think, especially because it seems that that now, you know, it's so much different from what it was 20 years ago. Everything is very hyper polarized. And I was thinking about that when I saw Senator Grassley release these documents showing that the Biden FBI was spying on a number of Republican senators during that Arctic Frost investigation. I saw this headline and then I saw the headline that it came out. John Ratcliffe had declassified documentation showing that Biden was having the CIA intervene and they were hiding his corrupt ties and his corrupt dealings in Ukraine. Is this... Based on your experience in the Senate, this seems like a very accelerated abuse of power that we saw with the last administration and then the Obama-Biden administration. Talk to me a little bit about that, because it just feels like you are really being targeted by Democrats and very much were under the last administration.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, all of this is coming out about the Justice Department under President Biden through whistleblowers. And we don't know if we'll ever get the full story. And it's clear to me that the Biden administration was totally hypocritical about everything. They accused us of wanting to destroy democracy, and yet they were using the law and the rule of law as a weapon against their political opponents. I mean, we just found out last night that Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed by Attorney General Garland, got the telephone records of eight sitting United States senators. He got the records. And the senators didn't know anything about it. We found out about it from a whistleblower. For reasons I'll never understand, Attorney General Garland decided to prosecute a former president of the United States who happened to be Judge Garland's boss, opponent of Judge Garland's boss, Mr. Biden. I mean, that's never happened in America. That's the sort of thing that happens in a country whose Powerball jackpot is 287 chickens and a goat. It just doesn't happen in America. And this sort of weaponizing of the Justice Department and the FBI happened every other Thursday. And now, of course, my Democratic colleagues are accusing President Trump of it. But what they did, they hit it. But now it's all coming out and we're going to get to the bottom of it.
SPEAKER 02 :
It seems like they impeached Trump for what Biden actually did. Is that a fair assessment?
SPEAKER 04 :
There's a lot to that. And when President Biden and Attorney General Garland decided to prosecute a political opponent, I said it at the time, Dana. They unleashed spirits they could not control. I knew as soon as they did that, for every force, there's an equal and opposite force. And here we go, off to the races. And I don't want that. I don't want the FBI or the Justice Department. I don't care what party they're in. But if they knock on my door, I don't want to have to worry about whether they're a Republican or Democrat. I think most Americans just want them to follow the law. And that's what Attorney General Bondi and FBI Director Patel are trying to clean up. And of course, as they cleaned it up, many of my Democratic colleagues said, well, now you're picking on us. No, they're trying to get rid of the bad apples at Justice and at the FBI.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly. We're talking with Senator John Kennedy from the great state of Louisiana for those just joining us. And he's got a new book out as well that we've been talking a bit about how to test negative for stupid. I wanted to ask you to, Senator, because, you know, we've got this government shutdown ongoing. It seems like Republicans have done their part. Regardless of whether people like everything that's in this bill or not, Republicans did their part. Democrats had no problem supporting it when it was Biden's level of spending and backed in the House with the CR. But now in the Senate, they're trying to prove something. But I don't think that it's working. You all have been really good on messaging with this battle. What do you anticipate happening with this and how long do you think it's going to go on?
SPEAKER 04 :
It could go on a while, Dana. Here's what happened. My Democratic friends try to muddy the water to make it look deep, but here's what happened. Tuesday, a week ago at midnight, our budget ran out. And a couple of weeks before that, we started talking to the Democrats in the Senate and said, well, let's just extend the then current budget for another six weeks so we can continue to talk about a permanent budget. And then at the last minute, the Democrats came to us and said, No, we will vote to shut down government if you do not give us $1.5 trillion and we will tell you how to spend it. And that's the only way we will agree to open the government up for six more weeks. Well, you know, as I've said before, my mother didn't raise a fool. And if she did, it was one of my brothers. I wasn't about to vote for that. And nor were any of my colleagues. And that's why we're in a shutdown. All we asked and are asking. is to open government back up and talk to us. We're not asking for anything else. And the Dems want $1.5 trillion. And they're going to get it when donkeys fly back. And until then, we're going to be in a shutdown.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And I keep hearing the fear-mongering messages. They're really trying to play up the stuff with air traffic control. And they're trying to say, oh, these flight delays. That's because Republicans don't want to finance this. We had the same amount of delays and issues, though, under Biden-Harris. So I don't know why...
SPEAKER 04 :
public's not stupid no they're not and and that is what that's the biggest mistake that many of my democratic colleagues make they think the american people are stupid and now look the american people may not read aristotle every day because they're too busy earning a living but but they figure out they figure it out sooner or later what's going on and i think most Americans who get up every day and go to work and obey the law and pay their taxes and try to do the right thing by their children see exactly what's going on. And I don't want government to be shut down, but I'm not going to be extorted and I'm not going to allow the American people to be extorted. And I know how bad all this looks. You know, a lot of Americans are are looking at this and going, you know, we thought humans were more advanced as a species. I mean, this is a mess and it is a mess, but it's a mess that we have to have right now.
SPEAKER 02 :
Last question for you, Senator. A lot of people are concerned about the increase in political violence and a lot of the rhetoric that's coming from the left. Of course, they always like to point to the right. I think you're a really good example of how to get your point across with so much humor. And it's so cutting. And a lot of people have to sit and take a second to unpack it before they realize what it means. And it's always so good. What are your thoughts on I look at Virginia, for example, and this AG Democrat nominee that's running for AG down there. And I get the sense that if these people are rewarded by winning elections and having the public stamp of approval by ascending to public office, that that's just going to encourage that type of action. The endorsement of, you know, things like attacking ICE agents. and trying to set fire to federal courthouses and attacking Teslas and all this other stuff. I just feel like it increases the likelihood of that continuing and ramping up because there's no condemnation of it from the left, which is where it originates. And I just wanted to get your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can't hate. I don't hate anybody. It's hard sometimes in Washington. But when I say my prayers, I do every single time. I say, God, please don't let me hate. um i disagree but but once you start treating someone you disagree with as being not just in error but in sin as being evil then somehow it seems to be justice if you want to see them hurt. And people lose all perspective, Dana. They lose all perspective. There's so many things in my life more important than politics. So all I can tell folks is, look, don't worry. about being a good Republican or a good Democrat, just try to be a good human being and don't hate. Disagree, but don't hate. But unfortunately, we've seen a lot of it lately.
SPEAKER 02 :
We have. Senator John Kennedy, the new book, How to Test Negative for Stupid and Why Washington Never Will. I just really appreciate you. I appreciate every time. I love watching your interviews. We you're you're one that we actually genuinely like to watch. And we do watch it when we say we watch it. We do. I appreciate your time today and congrats on the book. Thank you, Senator.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
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So a single psilocybin dose, psilocybin dose. Kane knows all the drug names. Reverses pain and depression in mice within 24 hours. Well, that's good for the mice. No, I'm joking. I know why they're studying it. They're saying that it worked when it reaches the brain's anterior cingulate cortex, but has no effect when injected near the spinal cord, showing that pain relief takes place in the brain definitively, which I think we knew that, but I think that they were trying to define that for the purpose of this psilocybin. They said that The pain relief comes from the calming overactive neurons in the mood and pain processing region of the brain. They're really doing a lot of experiments. Look, all I know is I have a handful of Spec Ops veteran friends and some in family that have been doing this. And it's not like you go and you get high. It's like with a doctor and all this stuff. And it is like the thing that's been working for them. It is wild, the medicinal properties in some of this stuff. So very interesting. Unfortunately, the bill didn't get very far in D.C., which is also wild. Young people are falling in love with old technology. Is this why they like to play like 8-bit games? Yeah. Like we want as realistic as possible because we grew up with all the junk and the kids want all the junk and they don't want the real. I'm like we we crawled so you could walk or we walked so you could run like and then they just spit on everything that we worked on. So apparently they they really like phones that can't text. Some of them, though, the only things that they like anymore are and this is from the Wall Street Journal food apps and ride share apps. But they like the idea of not really texting. And they said, because of technology, it's harder to make friends with people. And one of them said that they like not having all the social media stuff on their phone, but it is more difficult to keep in contact. I'm like, it's a phone. You call. You call them. It's... Not so difficult. Britney Spears sparks concern again as she dances in sparkling lingerie with massive bruises and a, well, reportedly broken leg. I don't know. All she does is dance in her underwear in her house, and her dogs run in fear. Or she'll, like, dance with knives, which is a meme. But I don't know, man. She's... Well, they did. And now look what happened. Like, this is what happens when you remove the conservatorship. Oh, Cain, here you go. Silver snorters. Apparently there's a cocaine crisis amongst the elderly. You know, Cain doesn't like the old people. They said that they studied a group of elderly people and they found that some of the highest cocaine snorters, they were the oldest of the group, between 75 and 79. And it was like 28% of them. It's crazy. Stick with us. We've got more in store. Real quick, can I just talk about the gold filigree in the Oval Office? Kane and I are dying over this. So first off, let me just tell you guys, I'm a maximalist. My creed is more is more. I tone it down when I'm on air, right? Because I like, I mean... Let's just put it this way. I like giant chains. I just do. It's a thing and I don't know why. Anyway, but I'm a maximalist in everything. Kane, you can attest to this. Yeah. More is more. I don't do the tiny house stuff. I don't do the all white everything stuff. I don't do the ship lap. I don't do that. We don't do those things. So. I am. First off, I'm looking at this. This was when he was with Erdogan. This was back in January. And there's even more since then. So Trump, there's been so many articles written about the redo of the Oval Office and all the gold and stuff that he's added to it. And I mean, just for instance, this image that Juan's preparing for you, the video, look at all the gold filigree that they're putting up like by on either side of the doors. They've got it like they like underneath the dental molding at the top. Every every panel on the chair rail, there is like gold filigree in it. Gold absolutely everywhere. Again, I'm a maximalist. More is more. I'm not against this. Just not against it. There is a photo where Erdogan was sitting next to him. And this is because normally he's at the desk. And then sometimes they move to the fireplace. And then when he's on the opposite end under the fireplace, I think they change what's on the mantle. And there was one time where it was just all gold cups. All gold cups. It was on the mantle. I mean, that's a lot of gold in there. It is a lot of gold. So I've got to share with you this article that I saw. This was just last month from The Independent. Okay, so you're probably wondering, is that real gold? That's in there. It's very shiny, you know, very shiny. Like European gold is like gold-er, like almost an orangey kind of gold. And then ours is not as different hue. So a lot of people, they had internet sleuths, the independent, which is the left-leaning British trash can. They said internet sleuths say the gold trimming. Well, it's not gold trimming. There's actual names for it. Recently added to the Oval Office is actually from Home Depot. Now, hold up, hold up. This is how they start. They're just mad. They hate him. They're mad at him. They start with this. President Donald Trump's brag that he transformed the Oval Office into a, quote, 24-karat gold paradise dripping in ornate decor has seemingly been debunked by Internet sleuths who say the new furnishings are actually cheap plastic bought at Home Depot. So they're talking about the... The person who wrote this has no idea about architecture at all or building materials or anything. So they're talking about, oh, the... The fire, the trimmings on the wall. Okay, those are filigrees. You moron. Anyway, they're saying that these embellishments, they're polyurethane applique and onlay molding. Now, I don't know if that's true or not. I don't care. I don't know. Some say that, you know, it's like BuzzFeed said they're like $30 and they painted them gold. So wait a minute. Are you mad? Are they mad that he didn't go get real gold filigrees and put them up there? Or are they madder that he just spent $30 on a bunch of these plastic things and painted them gold and put them up? I mean, either way, it still looks nice. But I'm just saying, are they mad that he saved money?
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The way I saw it in the beginning was they were upset that all of this money was being spent at a time that we're all in debt. And that was the story about the gold in the Oval Office. Now that we find out it's from Home Depot, it just looks good. Now they switch up the game.
SPEAKER 02 :
You had people saying, imagine running the free world and still decorating like a broke mobster's wife in Jersey. You know, $30 Home Depot applique, spray painted gold, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I bet you I could shred the decor in these people's houses. How much you want to bet? Oh, wait, let me guess. These people who are criticizing him went to that one aisle at Target and they got all their stupid seashells and the coral that everybody has and all their houses look like the same influencer vomit. How much you want to bet? So asinine. And that they're just they're mad at him because of that. Now, I don't even know if that's I don't even know if they come. I don't care. I am not going to sit here and work myself into a mess over trying to figure out if the filigrees on the damned wall are from Home Depot. You losers! What in the world? I don't care. Cain, do you care? Is your day wrecked if you think they come from Home Depot?
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No. Couldn't care less. Looks pretty good, though, whenever we see video from the Oval Office.
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I mean, if you're going to try to judge our nation based upon the filigrees in the White House, we can show you the filigree that is our military. We can show you the filigree that is our better economy. We can show you the filigree that is our mostly still free society. We can show you the filigree of better individual wealth per capita than compared to any other nation. We can do that if you really, really... want to have that comparison with the back-to-back World War champs, but, you know. Just saying. If he wanted to save some money, then you should shut up about it maybe, right? I mean, these are the people who are like, I can't afford avocados or my avocado toast because they have no idea how to invest and they have no idea how to save money and they have no idea how to do basic things in life because they've always been in their parents' basement. So I just saw this story and I keep seeing articles because the left is just mesmerized by the stuff he adds. It's Trump for crying out loud, okay? And by the way, to sit here and say, That it would be that like, do you honestly believe that he was the one who chose the materials? I think he told people what he wanted and they made it happen. Do you honestly think that Trump is just literally heading up to the Home Depot in the beast and he's going in and picking out? No, he's not. He's telling people and they're making it happen. But also to say that the stuff he does is cheap. This is he doesn't do cheap stuff. Whether or not I would spend as much money as he does on gold decor, I don't know. Everybody, you know, to each to their own. But this is just such a stupid thing to freak out about. It's so dumb. I just now I feel like Shorzy. It's so dumb. Just so dumb.
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There's a lot that we have to touch on because we have a packed show. We have Winsome Sears, the lieutenant governor in Virginia, is going to be joining us. She's running for governor against Abigail Spanberger. That's a very interesting race. And normally we don't get into the weeds with a race unless these races have a national implication. And what's happening in Virginia right now, not so much with any of these individual particular races, but the situation with Jay Jones, who's the Democrat nominee, for AG. He was running for AG. He's got millions of dollars behind him. And he was the guy who repeatedly was talking about killing all of the people that he doesn't like and shooting their kids. And there's more, a lot more to it than that. And it's also two years since the horrific terror attack on Israel. And what's changed? Because now you have, and this is one of the things I was waiting to hear, you have the prime minister of Canada, who was one of the first leaders to Immediately cave to Hamas and say they will recognize a state. And then only after the president was saying, well, Hamas is to go, et cetera, et cetera. Then only then did Mark Carney, very fitting last name. Did he and others say, oh, yes, yes, they have to immediately release all the remaining hostages. Oh, yes, yes. Commit to disarm, blah, blah, blah. OK, well, they have to go. Hamas just can't disarm. Hamas just can't release hostages. Hamas has to go. And he stopped short of saying that. And I would say that that is an absolute obstacle in any kind of trade agreement. Can you trust a trading partner that would immediately reward someone who would murk you or who's kidnapped your your citizens? So that's a fair question, I think. So, you know, if anything like that comes up, we'll we'll have it. But there's more that we have to get to today, including as we were talking about some of this latest, the The big fight that they're having right now with POTUS sending the National Guard into certain cities, I feel like people, even there's a few on the right that don't quite understand it. POTUS is not sending in, and sidebar, I don't like a police state. I don't like the militarization of police. I've always been very consistently against that. However, to act as though these two situations are the same is illogical and incorrect. The executive has the authority to send in the National Guard whenever you have federal buildings and federal employees that are not protected by local law enforcement or that cannot be protected by local law enforcement. And that's what we've seen in a lot of these cities, particularly Portland. Chicago, where you have leftists attacking federal employees and attacking federal buildings. This is not going to be like under Biden and Harris, where you had Antifa and all of these cities setting fire to federal buildings and courthouses and all this other stuff. This is not the same. This is not going to operate the same. So it is. It is absolutely insane. within the power of the executive to send out the National Guard to protect federal buildings and federal employees. It is literally his job. It's part of his job. That has always been, it's the Posse Comiteas Act of 1878. That's always been the act. That's where everyone cites it, but they're like, well, it prohibits the use of federal military personnel for domestic law enforcement. Okay, that's not what he's doing. In that act, it actually outlines the correct and legal uses of military, federal military personnel, and it falls under exactly what Trump is doing here. He can federalize, and that's Title 10 U.S. Code subsection 12406. And what it allows is the federalization of a state's National Guard to mobilize it into service if necessary. They are if locals are unable to, again, enforce the federal law by protecting federal buildings and federal employees. So that's why he's allowed to do this. He's not. I had some moron that was trying to make the point yesterday by saying, well, it's you know, you're completely silent over Trump sending out these these soldiers to go and go after restaurants and things like that. It's like that's that is a stupid, moronic, uneducated and a liberal hot take. That's not what he's doing. That explicitly is not what he's doing. He's got federal command under Title 10. Now, he was asked about the Insurrection Act. Now, the last time the Insurrection Act was used was under H.W. Bush with the L.A. riots. And our friend Kurt Schlichter, who's on the show from time to time, was part of the National Guard that was mobilized to go out and address it. And that's when you they and that's when the Pete Wilson, who is the governor of California at the time, he asked for help. And the reason he asked for help is because they did not have the ability with the force locally that they had to protect the courthouses, to protect federal employees and to keep the peace. And so in order to restore order, he asked George H.W. Bush to mobilize the guard, send the guard out, et cetera. So that's the last time it was used in 1992. Now, some people are threatening, well, if you invoke the Insurrection Act again, it could undo police reform. We need police reform. We need police to not have that. First off, we need good cops and then we need to have good cops not have their hands tied out of fear by zealous prosecutors, city councils and activists that go after people like Daniel Penny. You know, for simply stepping in because local law enforcement and city council basically refused and local law enforcement couldn't do it because they had been told to stand down by city councils. I mean, this is how this is. This is what's been happening in Chicago. I saw one of the police chiefs out there. I wondered if he had like, you know, if he was under threat from Pritzker to say, no, we weren't told to stand down, except numerous reporters heard you on the radio saying that that's the problem. So it is a real – this is – I don't understand why – You know, some of these individuals on the left, they're trying to rewrite history when you can literally go online and find out the truth of and the previous uses of these actions. Completely allowable, completely legal, completely within the founder's intent online. It's very easy. Also, you know, for the individuals that are like, oh, you should never be able to use, you know, federalize the National Guard. One of my favorite things to do is to basically use their own rhetoric against them. So you're against desegregation then? Oh, is that what you're telling me? Because that's the other time that they had to be mobilized to go and enforce federal order was during desegregation. So you're against that then? I mean, you know, they are the party of the left. They are the ones who wanted to keep everything segregated. They are the ones who were yelling at, you know, little Ruby and the other little schoolgirls trying to go to school back in the 50s. I mean, yeah, I mean, that was the left that was doing that at the time. So it tracks that they would still have that same mentality today. So the problem is, is their inconsistency. They have no problem calling in The police calling in the National Guard to go and get kayakers out in California in Long Beach, who during a time of forced. arrest, national arrest during COVID. They were going after kayakers with face masks all by themselves out there in Long Beach, or they were going after people in the park. They had no problem with mobilizing and using the heavy muscle of law enforcement to go after people then. Those people weren't even doing anything like burning down courthouses or attacking federal agents, federal employees. They weren't doing anything like that. I had a friend who took her kid, she has a lot of children, Over five. And they were all at a park in Los Angeles. Well, actually Pasadena. And this was during the whole quarantine period in COVID. And she took her kids. Her husband was at work. She took her kids to the park. And immediately there were three police cars that rolled up. And they told her that she needed to go back because the number of children that she had exceeded her quarantine group. No joke. And she said, these are literally all my children. And they said, it didn't matter. You can't be outside at the park. You need to be indoors. And they were threatening to fine her or call DFS. That's a true story. So they have no problem calling in the muscle for stuff like that. But if you're setting fire to a courthouse, if you're attacking federal employees, or if you are working with the Latin Kings to put hits out on Border Patrol, that's what's happening. We'll talk about that coming up. Because in Chicago, the Latin Kings have put a bounty on the head of ICE agents. They put a $10,000 hit on an ICE commander in Chicago. But wait, I thought they had no problems with this. JB Pritzker has been in front of a podium for the past couple of days, desperately trying to be Gavin Newsom 2.0. And he's been telling everyone that they don't have any such problems. Can you explain then, Governor, why the leader of the Latin Kings put a $10,000 bounty on an ICE agent? We've got a lot more on the way as we move. 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Taylor Swift is handing the conservative agenda on a silver platter to the masses. And before I go any further and before you argue with me, you cannot convince me that the master lyricist of our generation akin to Shakespeare, the Easter egg master of our generation, is not aware of what her entire optics and lyrics and album and everything is giving at this very moment. Before you suggest that this was supposed to be a satirical album, I would like to remind you how she feels about this album in her own words.
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So Tin Head in Needs of Bangs here is completely upset with, I'm just saying it's out of proportion and it's bothering me. When you're going to be that stupid and petty, everything is on the table. But they're all, all of these, and I'm saying B-I-S-H, which is like dish, but it's called bish. All of these, of those. Bishes? Yes, are upset because Taylor Swift is not going to be a lonely old cat lady anymore. And she's going to get married and she wants to have kids and she wants to have, you know, the American dream, the white picket fence, the house and the cul-de-sac. Right. And all of these women who have been made easy in their misery by her previous immature albums, even though she's like mid 30s, like the Megs is getting old, girl. All right. Yeah. You ain't a young spring chicken no more. They're all so upset because they feel like she betrayed them by finding a man because they can't find men. Now, Taylor Swift. That's one video. Like, there's more. There's more of this. Watch.
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I have subjected myself to listening to Taylor Swift's new album and the song Wishlist. Yeah, that's trad wife propaganda. Oh, my gosh. Straight up trad wife propaganda.
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Can you believe it's trad wife propaganda to want to be married? Now, it's trad wife. That used to be called like normal. We have more of these. How many do we have? By the Still normal. Yeah, it's still normal. There's tons of these out here. Yeah. And they all say, oh, and none of these women had independent, original thoughts. One of them saw the other and was like, oh, and so they all say the same thing. This is childbirth propaganda.
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This is childbirth propaganda.
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Oh, my gosh. So Joy Behar is back to comparing. That's via MRC. Joy Behar is back to comparing the Trump administration to Nazis. Way to signal that you have no idea what the hell Nazis are. Good night. This is why we can't have nice things. You can't have unity with people this damn stupid. I'm not going to have unity with someone who's like, I don't like your policies. You're just like a Nazi. You know, minus the actual Nazism. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you, top of the second hour. You can watch us do the radio program on Channel 347, DirecTV, the chats at Rumble. They'll knife you. And... in a loving way. Also find us on X, I almost said Twitter. Why do I almost say Twitter? X Facebook and wherever the hell else. Anyway, so real quick, can I just talk about the gold filigree in the Oval Office? Kane and I are dying over this. So first off, let me just tell you guys, I'm a maximalist. My creed is more is more. I tone it down when I'm on air, right? Because I like, I mean, Let's just put it this way. I like giant chains. I just do. It's a thing and I don't know why. Anyway, but I'm a maximalist in everything. Kane, you can attest to this. Yeah. More is more. I don't do the tiny house stuff. I don't do the all white everything stuff. I don't do the ship lap. I don't do that. We don't do those things. So. I am. First off, I'm looking at this. This was when he was with Erdogan. This was back in January. And there's even more since then. So Trump, there's been so many articles written about the redo of the Oval Office and all the gold and stuff that he's added to it. And I mean, just for instance, this image that Juan's preparing for you, the video, look at all the gold filigree that they're putting up like by on either side of the doors. They've got it like they like underneath the dental molding at the top. Every every panel in the chair rail, there is like gold filigree in it. Gold absolutely everywhere. Again, I'm a maximalist. More is more. I'm not against this. Just not against it. There is a photo where Erdogan was sitting next to him. And this is because normally he's at the desk. And then sometimes they move to the fireplace. And then when he's on the opposite end of the fireplace, I think they change what's on the mantle. And there was one time where it was just all gold cups, all gold cups. It was on the mantle. I mean, that's a lot of gold in there. It is a lot of gold. So I've got to share with you this article that I saw. This was just last month from The Independent. OK, so you're probably wondering, is that real gold? That's in there. It's very shiny, you know, very shiny. Like European gold is like gold-er, like almost an orangey kind of gold. And then ours is not as different hue. So a lot of people, they had internet sleuths, the independent, which is the left-leaning British trash can. They said internet sleuths say the gold trimming. Well, it's not gold trimming. There's actual names for it. Recently added to the Oval Office is actually from Home Depot. Now, hold up. Hold up. This is how they start. They're just mad. They hate him. They're mad at him. They start with this. President Donald Trump's brag that he transformed the Oval Office into a, quote, 24-karat gold paradise dripping in ornate decor has seemingly been debunked by Internet sleuths who say the new furnishings are actually cheap plastic bought at Home Depot. So they're talking about the they have the person who wrote this has no idea about architecture at all or building materials or anything. So they're talking about, oh, the the the fire, the trimmings on the wall. OK, those are filigrees. You moron. Anyway, they're saying that these embellishments, their polyurethane applique and online molding. Now, I don't know if that's true or not. I don't care. I don't know that. Some say that, you know, it's like BuzzFeed said they're like $30 and they painted them gold. So wait a minute. Are you mad? Are they mad that he didn't go get real gold filigrees and put them up there? Or are they madder that he just spent $30 on a bunch of these plastic things and painted them gold and put them up? I mean, either way, it still looks nice. But I'm just saying, are they mad that he saved money?
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The way I saw it in the beginning was they were upset that all of this money was being spent at a time that we're all in debt. And that was the story about the gold in the Oval Office. Now that we find out it's from Home Depot, it just looks good. Now they switch up the game.
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You had people saying, imagine running the free world and still decorating like a broke mobster's wife in Jersey. You know, $30 Home Depot applique, spray painted gold, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I bet you I could shred the decor in these people's houses. How much you want to bet? Oh, wait, let me guess. These people who are criticizing him went to that one aisle at Target and they got all their stupid seashells and the coral that everybody has and all their houses look like the same influencer vomit. How much you want to bet? So asinine. And that they're just they're mad at him because of that. Now, I don't even know if that's I don't even know if they come. I don't care. I am not going to sit here and work myself into a mess over trying to figure out if the filigrees on the damned wall are from Home Depot. You losers! What in the world? I don't care. Cain, do you care? Is your day wrecked if you think they come from Home Depot?
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No. Couldn't care less. Looks pretty good, though, whenever we see video from the Oval Office.
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I mean, if you're going to try to judge our nation based upon the filigrees in the White House, you know, we can show you the filigree that is our military. We can show you the filigree that is our better economy. We can show you the filigree that is our mostly still free society. We can show you the filigree of better individual wealth per capita than compared to any other nation. We can do that if you really, really... want to have that comparison with the back-to-back World War champs, but you know. Just saying. If he wanted to save some money, then you should shut up about it maybe, right? I mean, these are the people who are like, I can't afford avocados or my avocado toast because they have no idea how to invest and they have no idea how to save money and they have no idea how to do basic things in life because they've always been in their parents' basement. So I just saw this story and I keep seeing articles because the left is just mesmerized by the stuff he adds. It's Trump for crying out loud, okay? And by the way, to sit here and say... That it would be that like, do you honestly believe that he was the one who chose the materials? I think he told people what he wanted and they made it happen. Do you honestly think that Trump is just literally heading up to the Home Depot in the beast and he's going in and picking out? No, he's not. He's telling people and they're making it happen. But also to say that the stuff he does is cheap. This is he doesn't do cheap stuff. Whether or not I would spend as much money as he does on gold decor, I don't know. Everybody, you know, to each to their own. But this is just such a stupid thing to freak out about. It's so dumb. I just now I feel like Shorzy. It's so dumb. Just so dumb. Okay, so have you seen the new Netflix Ed Gein movie, Monster? No. I'm not going to watch it. Do you know what? So basically, Psycho was based on Ed Gein. And he was known as the Butcher of Plainfield and the Plainfield Ghoul. He was an American serial killer and a legit body snatcher. And he's a really creepy dude. He killed a couple of women and he also was a grave robber. He would go and kidnap women's bodies and he would wear their skin and he would wear their clothes. He cross-dressed. He did all this stuff. Psycho is based on him. A lot of... I was trying to think of all of the different movies that are based on his story. But I'm not going to watch it. But it's on Netflix. If you know about his life of horrific crime, then you really don't need it. He kept... He was just a... Crazy. I mean, he was a crazy person. And they... I don't know why of all the... Why would you make it the movie about this guy? He was found unfit to stand trial. They sent him to a mental institution. He was found legally insane and he wasn't... And they put him in a psych ward. But his mother was apparently like the mother from Carrie and hated other girls and all this stuff. So he had a very unhealthy view of females as a result. And he... was just very, he was odd his whole life. And he, I mean, I don't even want to list all the stuff that he did, but like, for instance, he kept one woman's head in a burlap sack. He kept another woman's heart, like as a, he would keep their body parts as mementos. He would, he made a corset from a woman that he skinned. He would wear their skin. He was trying to become a woman. Ed Gein's a story about transgenderism. It's like, he's the first famous trans in America. He is. He made, he would take their lips, women's lips, all kinds of stuff. And he would dress, literally dress up in their skin, in their body parts. And when they raided his property, they were shocked by what he found, what, what they found. He would make nighttime visits to graveyards and he would exhume of the bodies, bring them back to his house. And he would take a lot of the bodies that would resemble his mother. And then he would tan their skins and make his stuff. I mean, and he admitted to doing it and he was, he wanted to literally, uh, become a a woman and he began so he was trying to piece together a woman's suit from the bodies and then he he killed several women so um i just i was thinking about this i'm like this guy he's he'd be trans tifa today he's trans this is a guy who wanted to be a woman There's a lot more about his case as well. But, man, this is not a movie I'm going to see. But it is a movie that... Can people not connect the dots here? I think it's a mental illness. It is absolutely a mental illness. And the mental illness that a lot of these people have where they want to cosplay as different sexes, he's got that mental illness as well. I mean, do you know they said his grave became a tourist attraction? I mean, I understand like going to the Ford Theater or going to some, but, or where like here in Dallas where Kennedy was shot, the school book depository. But this, can't imagine. This is gross. One of the other things that we're looking at today is we have Winsome Sears, who's going to be joining us here soon, is Biden. Did you guys see this story? He ordered the CIA cover up of, is corruption with Ukraine. All of his business ties to Ukraine. These files, which John Ratcliffe made public today, CIA director John Ratcliffe, all of these records, and he declassified a bunch of these, shows that Ukrainian government officials were uneasy about Biden's visits to the country during the Obama administration. And he had directed himself, the CIA, to cover up his corrupt business ties. All of it's true. All of it was true. I mean, we knew it was true. Now it's even confirmed by the declassified documents that Ratcliffe has made available as of this morning. We're going to talk more about that here coming up as we move our partners that help bring you the program. 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All right, so coming up, we have Winsome Sears who's going to be joining us after this segment. Apparently, a wrong-way I-90 driver... had cocaine and placed ice on hold. This headline is so stupid. Whoever's at the Bozeman Daily Chronicle should be fired for writing such a horrible headline. A 22-year-old man with no driver's license and no insurance drove the wrong way on the highway, posing a lethal threat, blah, blah, blah, got arrested for a bunch of stuff. The guy was apparently, he was jailed after an investigation, and he was apparently also an illegal alien in possession of a ton of cocaine. No license, driving the wrong way. These policies are getting people killed. Think about the damage that he could have done had he run into someone. It's terrifying. A suspected burglar was left black and blue because he decided to target an MMA fighter's home. Oh, wow. He really did. Oh, that's hard to look at. Oh, my gosh. It's so bad. This guy, he was attempting to break into an MMA fighter's house. This 31-year-old dude, he got more than he bargained for. He was entering Henny Rojas' home, and Rojas just beat him to a pulp. And it looks like it. His head looks like a gourd now. Oh, he has cuts and bruises, black eyes, all kinds of stuff. And he, Henny Rojas is a skilled MMA fighter, and he's been in the sport for like three years. And he said he was alerted what was going on when his nephew screamed because there was a man standing in the living room. And so he was ready, and he, yeah. When Henny asked what weapon he was used to defend himself, he just held up his hands. He's like, I didn't have a weapon. Oh my gosh. That's based. Also, let's see. Indonesia's free meal program poisoned thousands of children. They had fried shark and maggots. Yeah. That's what happens when the government runs things. It's horrible. They said the program was designed to combat malnutrition and instead it just made everybody sick. That's horrible. They had no quality control at all. Let's see here. There was another one that we had that I didn't get to the last segment that I wanted to get. Mount Everest. Hundreds of people are trapped on Mount Everest. Can we stop climbing the mountain, by the way? I mean, enough people have done it. You know, come on. But yeah, there's a freak, not a freak, but a blizzard, a massive blizzard. And there's a thousand adventurers. It's more than a hundred that are trapped up there. Winsome Sears next. I don't want you guys to be overloaded by all the buzzwords and everything with WebRoot or anything that's about protecting your activities online. This is stuff that you honestly, I really would urge you to consider getting it. And the reason is, is because there are so many sophisticated ways to fleece people, to steal their identity, to go after their finances, to even, you know, try to manipulate them with AI, even voice AI, all of that. WebRoot offers total protection. This is more than just antivirus management, blocking those threats like malware, ransomware, and phishing scams. It's a lot more than that. You also have identity protection. They watch for any of your health information. They have a built-in firewall. The other cool thing about this is that this isn't just for you. You can get it for your entire family, your students, your parents, grandparents, and you have up to a million dollars in expense reimbursement. for identity theft, advanced dark web monitoring, and financial alerts. Those are all included. You also have secure VPN encryption. Why this is so important? Because this type of crime is the fastest growing crime in the nation. And it is incredibly profitable, which is why it's expanding all the more. You want to be able to get online safely. You want to be able to have transactions safely. WebRoot allows that. And they've had over 25 years of trusted protection. They have an over 90% customer retention, which is literally unheard of with us. Plans are super, super affordable. And you have 24-7 U.S.-based customer support. So you can get fast identity restoration. I can't even count on both my hands the number of people I know that have been affected by this. So you need to check out WebRoot today. Get 60% off of WebRoot Total Protection. 60% off. You can only get it at WebRoot.com slash Dana. 60% off. Live a safer, better digital life with WebRoot. WebRoot.com slash Dana.
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Do you think you should drop out of this race after those comments? I just answered your question. You have concerns about what you saw? The comments are completely indefensible. I've known Jay Jones for 25 years and those comments are very much out of character for him. So if I put the comments, which are clearly beyond the pale, against knowing this guy for 25 years, I'm still a supporter of Jay Jones.
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Well that's even revisionist history because now all of this stuff is coming out about this guy. This guy's a loose cannon. When you say things like that privately so easily, there's something wrong with your soul. There's something wrong with you. And it's not just that. I hesitate to say, well, that's just, you know, if it was just that then. But it wasn't just that. All of these other allegations are coming out. People who went to law school with him are coming out and saying they were on X all last night saying, oh, yeah, this is this is kind of how we know him. This is Jay Jones. And then also now you have the Virginia Fraternal Order of Police that's come out swinging. Things have gone from bad to worse because now it comes out that he was apparently I mean, he was saying in a phone call that a few police officers dying would stop them from killing other people. And as I said, going into this, this has made what all the races in Virginia happen. this is a watershed moment and people need to realize this when if if people let him off the hook for this they are endorsing this type of violence they are endorsing the violence that republicans are dealing with that supreme court justices are dealing with that ice agents are dealing with that conservative activists have unfortunately been dealing with And this will be a rubber stamp on it. And people, I tell you, it will get worse from here. You need to pay attention to what is going on in Virginia because these races here, that's going to set the tone for the nation for the next decade. To that point, joining me now, a woman I have long admired, the Lieutenant Governor. of the great state of Virginia. Winsome Sears joins us now via video, and she has been very outspoken about this. General, it is a pleasure to have you on the program. I wanted to kind of get your response now to all of these other revelations that are coming out about Jay Jones's character, the guy running for those joining us for AG in Virginia.
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You know, as governor of our great Commonwealth, I'm so lucky to have the people choose me. I would say to Jay Jones, if the leader of your ticket, Abigail Spanberger, won't tell you that you need to do the right thing, Well, then I'm actually the sitting lieutenant governor, and I'm telling you to preserve the honor and dignity of our great Commonwealth of Virginia. You need to drop out. You need to drop out, sir, and you need to do it right now, because apparently your side of the political aisle, they don't really care. They're making political decisions. They're not making decisions that are right for the people of Virginia. You are no example of what an attorney general of the Commonwealth of Virginia should be.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. And for those joining us, we're talking with Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears, who could be the next governor of Virginia. And that's again, this is one of the things that has made what's happening with this AG race. I think I called it governor. I think I called you general. This is one of the one of the reasons why this race now is one of the most important in the nation. And don't you agree as well that. by just kind of sweeping this under the rug. This is an endorsement of this behavior. Are you worried about what that could mean in the future? Will we see more if they're going to excuse this type of rhetoric now? Well, you see, they're showing us who they really are.
SPEAKER 16 :
And, you know, as someone said, believe them when they tell you who they are. And so what we need is for people who have a backbone. And that is not my opponent, Abigail Spanberger. All she's doing now is she's running in panic trying to figure out what she's got to do. But she knows the right thing. The right thing, Abigail, is to come forward and tell him to leave the race. He has no respect of women. He doesn't care about his political opponents. He doesn't care about anybody. He is making a political calculation and so are you. Virginia is for lovers, not for rage. And if you're going to be our governor, which you're not going to be because the people of Virginia have common sense and they're going to elect me, then you must come forward and say something. And I'm watching our senators who are all our federal senators they're all democrats and they won't say a word they endorse this kind of behavior think about it dana what has been happening uh the former speaker of the house a republican he has to consider now you know what what what if the crazies on their side come out the crazies on their side on the democrats side they shoot people we've been seeing this left and right this is what they do but then his children who at the time were two and five years old and jay jones said they ought to be killed too who is jay jones not someone who is fit for office and as a marine i would say he is not ready to advance to the next rank he is not fit is it also i i would think a concern that this guy who wants to be attorney general has never prosecuted a single case That's what we're understanding. He knows nothing about this. But you know, we need to continue with our great attorney general, our current sitting attorney general, Jason Meares. Jason Meares displays the white character, the right type of attitude that we need. He has served us in Virginia very well. He's served us in many capacities as our top cop. We need for our attorney general to be respected by the people of Virginia. We need for him to be respected by law enforcement, Department of Corrections personnel. And here he has gotten off scot-free, by the way, when he was, what, a speeding ticket? I think it was 160 some miles an hour.
SPEAKER 15 :
Almost 50 miles over.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Yeah. And all he got was a slap on the wrist and it was for him to do community service. And where did he do it? Oh, that's right. He did it for his campaign. So there are laws for the rest of us, but not for Jay Jones. No, he cannot slide.
SPEAKER 15 :
I saw something to this and I wanted to ask you because I'm not exactly sure. I know every state does things differently. Lieutenant Governor, because apparently the prosecutor confirmed that he did not have J. Jones did not have permission to complete his community service with his pack. Does that mean that his sentence for conviction is incomplete?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, as you read it, it certainly sounds that way. And so here we are going into an election not too far from now, about three weeks from now, and we have questions hovering over the head of the Democrat nominee for Attorney General of our great Commonwealth. We cannot have that. We must have someone who is above board, and that is not Jay Jones. And so I again call on him as the current sitting lieutenant governor, second in command of our great Commonwealth of Virginia. It is time for you to consider the people of Virginia, not make a political decision, but make the right decision. Remove yourself from contention. Drop out of the race for attorney general.
SPEAKER 15 :
I was reading the quote from your Democrat, very, very far-left Marxist challenger, Abigail Spanberger, on this. This was a really weird quote. For those who missed it, she said, quote, after learning of these comments earlier today, I spoke frankly with Jay about my disgust with what he had said and texted. And I made it clear that Jay must fully take responsibility for his words. I've also made it clear that as a candidate, blah, blah, blah, I will always condemn violent language in our politics. Well, it doesn't sound like condemnation. This just sounds like, oh, well, you know, I talked to him, wrist slap, and we're just going to continue. That is incredibly dangerous.
SPEAKER 16 :
So we have Jay Jones talking about murdering a political opponent and then murdering his two children. And all my opponent, Abigail Spanberger, is interested in saying that she is disgusted and she condemns the words. We're talking about murder, Abigail. What are you talking about? Oh, I know you want to win for governor, and so you want to keep him on the ballot. We can't have a governor who's only for themselves. No, we must have a governor who is also above board. So I would say she needs to go, too. You know why? Because she is the one who said that to her supporters, let your rage fuel you. Well, here you are, Abigail. The rage is being fueled. And against whom? And to what end?
SPEAKER 15 :
Continued murder? Oh, that's a very good point. And that is a quote. She said, let your rage fuel you is what she told her supporters. And here you have people on the very far left telling Republicans that you need to control your tone. Oh, you need to watch your tone, Lieutenant Governor Sears. Well, I'm not seeing that coming from the Republican side of things. I mean, it's all coming from one way. I just to have that kind of authority. And this is the other question that that I think a lot of people are very concerned about. We've got a lot of listeners at different affiliates in Virginia. Someone like like that to have like Jay Jones and have this unfettered rage to be in the position of being top cop. That is a very scary thing because he's already demonstrated a proclivity for abusing office to benefit himself. What does that I don't put it past him to use the full muscle of that office to go and target people like you. Any other Republicans? Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
And so you have to understand, he's going to have the power of the office. There is an absolute power there. And for him, he's going to have about 500 or so employees. And is he going to use these employees against us? Of course, we have honorable employees, so they're not going to follow him. And so then what happens? so this is why we cannot have this man jay jones in office you know i'm from a third world country i have seen what happens when politicians have unfettered power and god forbid they use it against the very people their political opponents we cannot have this man and that's why i'm saying we cannot also have abigail spanberger because she's proving now before she's even in office which she won't be because the people of virginia have common sense and they want to be safe she's proving that she cannot be trusted with power she doesn't even have it and yet she's a coward she doesn't say what the right thing is she knows what the right answer is and it's for him to leave but she's thinking well if i ask him to leave then this faction won't vote for me and that faction won't vote for me We that's not what this is about. You have to take the hits as a leader. And I asked her to do it. She won't. So I am saying as the current sitting lieutenant governor, second in command, I am asking you, Jay Jones, drop out of the race for attorney general. You don't have the character.
SPEAKER 15 :
We're going to watch and see how this race progresses because it seems like the heat is turning up. But will Democrats do the right thing? I mean, you know, the history shown that they haven't really been amenable to that. Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears, always a pleasure. We would love to have you back. And we are watching your race. I think it's one of the most important in the nation. We are watching your race very closely.
SPEAKER 16 :
Please go to winsomeforgovernor.com and help me. Help me fund my campaign for righteousness.
SPEAKER 15 :
There you go. Always a pleasure. Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears, soon to be the next governor of Virginia. It's a pleasure. God bless you. Appreciate your time today.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 15 :
So a dash cam shows a man weaving through traffic, in and out of traffic, construction sites, driving the wrong way. And when the Florida Highway Patrol caught up to him, he told the trooper, I just didn't want to get caught. Duh. Like, no, we thought you drove like that all the time. Well, maybe he does. He was driving the wrong way down I-95. The wrong way, like at a pretty fast speed. It all happened on October 1st. Troopers spotted the white Honda driving northbound on Eye Near. At first he was on the shoulder and then he like weaved into traffic. Troopers tried to attempt to stop, but then he sped off. Then he entered a construction zone and then he apparently stopped at a steep ledge when he couldn't drive anymore. The trooper ran the suspect. The suspect was able to maneuver out. He was trying to get out of the construction site. Finally, they got him. And the suspect, as the trooper takes him into custody, says, quote, I just didn't want to get caught. That's all. I didn't want to get caught. And he told the trooper that he fled because he didn't have insurance. And the trooper goes, wow, that's just a ticket. Now look what you did. You know how many people's lives you put at risk? So he was taken to the pokey. That's where he went. Let's see. This was yesterday. This... Oh, no. This is the weird... Okay, today, this is... I don't know how I'm going to say this headline. Kane, maybe you can say this headline for me. This is... I feel like I'm 10 if I read this. Is this real? This is not real. I don't believe this.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is the first time I'm seeing this.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't believe this. Hang on. Hang on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 15 :
I got it because I'm not reading the story if it's satire. No. Oh. Oh. Oh, my gosh. It's actually a real story. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So, police. Here's the headline. A guy was caught.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, crap. This is real.
SPEAKER 15 :
Defecating on a possum.
SPEAKER 10 :
What?
SPEAKER 15 :
Out in the middle of public.
SPEAKER 10 :
I didn't know that was a law.
SPEAKER 15 :
Was there public or private? What? 45-year-old Florida man. Oh, it was a dead possum.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's terrible.
SPEAKER 15 :
So basically he's trying to make some toms of Maine deodorant. You have the dead possum and then he's, you know, he was detained and read his rights. He denied it even. And then he told the cop that he doesn't see straight. And I guess pretended to be cross-eyed. I don't know. He got charged with a misdemeanor for exposure of sexual organs and he got booked on a, it was like a $150 bond. I don't know if he bonded out. I don't even know what that, the officer, the troopers or the, the, yeah, the law enforcement officer said, yeah, physical evidence was like totally, was viewed at the scene. The action was viewed in full public. He, I don't,
SPEAKER 10 :
So the charge wasn't pooping on a dead possum. It was just exposure of his genitals.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now, the sores on his face indicate meth. Just saying. It's pretty methed up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Or something worse.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. But by the way, I hope he didn't kill the possum. They didn't actually get into that because possums are actually great. They're weird, but they're great. So I don't know. Let's see here. This. Oh, I got you know what? I got a villages story with that involves real villagers. Man, these golf carts. OK, how do you run a golf cart up on like a memorial of stone? So a golf cart driver is being sought in a hit and run that damaged a memorial in the villages. It's not like the guy's hard to find. He's in a golf cart. He's not diminutive in size. It's Lady Lake. They're trying to find this guy. He ran over a marble stone marker. And there's CCTV footage. So how are you having trouble finding him? I mean... It's CCT footage. They people were helping. He like ran over it and totally knocked his golf cart down. People helped him put the golf cart upright and then he just drove away. They didn't report it. And it damaged the memorial. It's like fifteen hundred dollars in damages. And he drove over one curb and then he went over another curb and then hit the memorial. And he over he just like his golf cart just overturned. He just sort of like fell to the side like a fainting goat. And he was speeding pretty quick. Oh, man, this is I. If I didn't know better, I'd say it was a woman driver. Stick with us. Third hour on the way. We're living in a time when truth feels dangerous and silence comes at a cost. Victoria was scared and desperate when she took the abortion pill at Planned Parenthood, and she immediately felt the weight of regret and even thought about ending her own life. But by God's grace, she reached out and found a pre-born network clinic where truth broke through. Loving staff gave her care and helped save not only her baby's life, but her own. In a culture drowning in a sea of lies, truth saves lives. With just $28, Preborn can provide a free ultrasound and the truth that can change lives. As abortion rises, Preborn is expanding life-affirming care to the darkest corners of our nation. A $15,000 leadership gift places ultrasound machines in women's centers, saving countless babies. So will you help them answer the call? Go ahead and dial pound 250 and say the word baby or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Do it now because life matters. That's preborn.com slash Dana or dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby.
SPEAKER 03 :
She needs to get out. grow up. She's the one cosplaying a social media influencer who's dragging with her cameras to catch her every move. She's dressing up as a law enforcement officer and jumping in as if she's trained to do any of this. She's not. And she shouldn't be part of this at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can't believe that no one in his team is like, dude, let's maybe not go after In a petty fashion, the women. Because that's mansplaining. If you guys want to know what mansplaining is, you just saw it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wouldn't it have to come from a man, though?
SPEAKER 1 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was boysplaining. That's correct. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lynch with you. Chats at Rumble. You can watch us do the radio show at Channel 347. Or listen all around the country. So I just, of all the people to talk about cosplaying, J.B. Pritzker, he's a nepo baby who has, he's one of those limousine Marxists. But he's, you don't get to criticize the people. You don't get to say that stuff about our people. We get to say that stuff about our people, not you. Right? Right. He said she's cosplaying as a social media influencer. Look, I don't agree with all the stuff she does in terms of optics, because some of it's pretty cheesy. And I'm like, okay, you don't need to be front and center with everything. But also, I don't care. You know why? Because the border's closed. I don't care. Don't care. I don't care if she does her nails at the border. If that border stays closed, I don't care. I don't care if she wears Jimmy Choo's down there. As long as the border stays closed, I don't care. I mean, I don't know how many different ways I can telegraph this to, you know, Heifer Pritzker up there. Just don't, don't know. Golly. By the way, when he smiles, no. He's a very, he's a very terrifying smile. He's one of those guys that when they smile, it's creepy. Now, there, I don't really think that The left is understanding totally that people are not responding to their tactics. So, for instance, we've been talking about Trump and the National Guard being deployed to protect federal agencies, federal buildings and federal employees, as is his right. And the left suddenly, well, still in keeping. The left didn't like that with desegregation either. You had, you know, Bull Connor, J.B. Pritzker's out there standing like, I'm not going to let this happen. He's that's that's actually within the founder's vision. And it's within complete constitutional authority of the office of the executive. But don't tell the old hippies up in Portland. I'm sorry to do this to you, but I had to watch it. And misery loves company. Audio Sunbite 12. Let's play cut 12. Seal to play. Like the one lady's not even playing anymore. Oh my gosh. Why are they like this? The oldest, whitest, Marxist boomers. And I'm saying that because that's their generation. Just like I'm baby Gen X. You know, we've got millennials. You've got Gen Z out there. She can't even do anything. She's got her little walker. Why are they like this? Why are the older hippies like this, the Marxist hippies? Because the non-Marxist hippies, they're just chill. They're so chill, I don't think they've got a pulse. They're like, hey, just out here in nature. You know, being Snow White with all the birds landing on them and, you know, butterflies and all that stuff. And then you've got these people out here that can't carry a tune in a bucket and they all have their little ukuleles. What does that prove? If you're driving and they're all different flags, what the hell was all that? They don't have a cohesive message. If you protest, you should have a strategy and a purpose for protesting and an end goal. They just are getting out there and they're being weirdos. So that's what is that? I mean, should we give them a pass because they're for once not setting anything on fire? Although let's be real. I don't think any of them could run away very fast had they done that. I just I don't get it. But they're mad because they're they're protesting the National Guard being in Portland. Well, the National Guard wouldn't be in Portland had leftists not attacked, had your kids not attacked ice agents and federal buildings like courthouses and employees within. Just like we wouldn't be in a war right now in Gaza had Hamas decided to not try to annihilate Israel on October 7th. Just in case anybody forgets, cut three, please. This is Gaza civilians, civilians in Gaza, celebrating the second anniversary of this massacre. So spare me that it's just a mostly peaceful people. Watch.
SPEAKER 13 :
They also can't speak British.
SPEAKER 15 :
now remember that all of the video footage there were civilians that were cheering there's some that i'm not going to show you where they had um uh what was her name shawnee luke who was in the back of a truck And it looked like her legs were, I don't know, broken or what. They were contorted in a completely unnatural manner. And they had her half naked. They had her top stripped off. And she's dead in the truck, face down. And they're sitting on her like they just went on a hunt. and as they pull they there's video of them pulling away and there's video of them arriving in gaza and people were just cheering and they could barely drive through the streets because there were so many people in the streets cheering and um you know, like praising the terrorists for what they did, spitting on her dead body. So many of them went and spit on her body. There's also the Bibas family that was kidnapped and the father who, as you know, his wife and two children were brutally murdered by Hamas in captivity. The dad was released. Of course, he was gone. And, you know, I mean, he had been through it. He looked hollow. But the video that they had, a separate video of them grabbing the dad, they mobbed him. And it wasn't just Hamas. It was the citizens of Gaza that were helping Hamas. Jumping him. His head was so bloody. You couldn't even see his eyes. It just looked like a red smear in the video footage. His eyes were, he was just, they were beating him up so much. They got him on this. They kidnapped him, took him on a bike, drove him into Gaza. When they got him into Gaza, the multitude of crowds just attacked him. They just attacked him. And some of the Hamas militants actually had to get in and get him up because they wanted to keep him alive. The crowd was going to kill him. They were going to stomp his head in. These are videos we can't show you that we have that are so graphic. That's what happened two years ago. And the only reason that we are in this position in the Middle East is because Hamas chose to do this. And then Hamas wanted to pretend to be the victim after decades of killing their own people and their own people tolerating it and rewarding them with votes and continued support to the point where they were going to take over both territories in 2021. So the Palestinian authority had to suspend elections. All of this happened because of what Hamas did and because it was tolerated by their Arab neighbors and it was tolerated by the Fatah and the authority in West Bank. That's why. So and it would have been finished if Israel had been fully allowed to just do what they needed to do. But you had, you know, all these cooks in the kitchen spoiling the broth. All these other people who wanted to weigh in and tell Israel, no, no, no, no. Just, you know, hold back. Hold back. Well, they drew it out. They drew it out forever longer. It could have been ended so much faster. Two years ago. Two years ago. I wanted to show you, switch it up. You guys know, you've canned stuff before, Cain, haven't you? Oh, yeah. We've canned stuff too, made salsa. There's a whole process to do it. You boil the jars in the big canning pot. There's a special pot for it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I do pizza sauce that way.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, yeah. And then when you take them out, you've got to use these special tongs. So I say this because I saw this image. Who's that suitcase girl, Megan Markle? She married the whiny, balding, redhead younger brother. whose eyes are real close together. She married him and she's been trying to position herself as this big lifestyle guru, but she's a really nasty person. So she like started this business and it was just a cluster. It found out she was just white labeling all this stuff, probably half or anything that's like food is just like cheaply produced. And I'm sure some of her stuff is made in China. It's just ridiculous. Anyway, she's been trying to pass herself off as this like new Martha Stewart. And then she actually, because they always bragged about her freakish attention to detail, apparently not so much, because she actually posted an image to her Instagram account where she was using the canning tongs upside down. The green right there, those are like rubber. That's the rubber part of the tongs that picks up the jar and the material is such that it doesn't slip on the glass. And she's using the handles to do it. That's not even a canning pot. That's a whole other issue. She's using the handles to do it. She posted this on her own Instagram account.
SPEAKER 10 :
100% of the time you drop the jar using those tongs that way. 100% of the time.
SPEAKER 15 :
I cannot believe this. That she posted that? And I cannot believe that. Does she have people that... Juan's showing you the correct way. These are the exact same tongs. He's going to show you the photo of the exact same tongs. That's how they're supposed to be used. She was holding the green part. Now you see how dumb that is. She's holding the green. She was holding the green part. And I have to wonder, does she have people that hate her that work for her? Because that is such, you can see it there, she's holding the green part. That is such a huge mistake. She acts like she's making all of this stuff that she's selling, that she's white labeling. So like the marmalade that she has for sale doesn't even have like actual oranges in it. It's just some orange juice. Some real sugary orange juice. It's not even marmalade. That's just crap. And her wine was like some bad wine that's like white labeled. It's so insane. But I just it I just cannot believe. Don't call yourself an influencer when you do this type of stuff. Don't act like a lifestyle guru when you actually are so high on your own hubris that you take photos of yourself incorrectly using common implements that novice cooks know how to use. And you use them incorrectly and then you post it to your Instagram account. I'm just... Would you ever buy... I would never buy food from this woman. Ew. Ew. I would never buy... And plus, even if we were to believe that she was making it all herself, half the time she's got her hair down in the food and she's got all her jewelry on. Like, who cooks like that? She just wants to... She was a nobody whose dad financed her life. She is literally a nepo baby. Her dad financed everything. She marries... I think she wanted to marry the prince who's going to be the king. And she ends up getting the brother and who's and she spends all his money on jewelry. She wears outfits that are like one outfit that she wore on when she visited this women's shelter was like seven thousand dollars. Like they did the cost analysis of it. I'm like, you are so toned up. She just wants to brag about her wealth. It's not even actually hers. But the fact that you would post this on Instagram while trying to sell people food. No, would never buy it. Would never buy it. All right. We have a lot more on the way. Also coming up, Senator John Kennedy. He finally is coming on the show. I've always wanted to have him on. But he's going to talk. Well, we got shut down. And also he's got a new book out, which is really how we were able to get him on. But I want to ask him about that story that Joe Biden blocked the CIA. from and had them cover up his corrupt business dealings in Ukraine. We're going to discuss all of that as we move our partners. I'll bring you the program. If you're looking to create a stable financial future, consider noble gold investments. Gold and silver are tangible assets, not just numbers on the screen with thousands of years of trust behind them. Gold IRAs let you hold real assets in tax-deferred or tax-free retirement accounts. Noble Gold is the number one ranked gold IRA company for four years running, handling over $2.5 billion in precious metal transactions. And here's what's to like about Noble Gold. Their U.S.-based team is available six days a week, providing personalized and consistent service. Pricing is clear with no hidden fees or fine print. Whether you're setting up a gold IRA or making a direct purchase, they make it simple. You even get a photo of your actual metals. Hundreds of thousands of happy customers come back and refer others because of Noble Gold's helpful, informed, and straightforward approach. Open a new IRA or cash account now and receive a free 10-ounce silver flag bar plus a silver American Eagle Proof coin. Visit noblegoldinvestments.com slash Dana. That's noblegoldinvestments.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 10 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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NBC is very upset over this breaking news. They said, quote, hydration spas are largely unregulated, according to a study. The first comprehensive research on the IV hydration industry finds little oversight of invasive procedures like vitamin drips. I totally get these. I get a B shot whenever I feel like I'm getting a sniffle or I'm going to be around people that I think are gross. Like Democrat. I'll get a B shot. You know what I'm saying? But they said hydration clinics. They're just it's a wellness industry. Heaven forbid that people do anything preventative. That's what it is. A forklift driver who won a million dollars in a scratch off lottery is hospitalized after nonstop partying. My dude, take your wins. New York Post says the guy, it was his massive wake-up call. He went from having $17 in his bank account to over $1.3 million after a lottery scratch-off, 39-year-old Adam Lopez. But he partied so hard, well, he ended up with a bilateral pulmonary embolism. And now he's like, yeah, I got to get my life in order. I would say so. Let's see. Airport delays at a second day. Government shutdown. You know, this is a problem that just festered under Biden and Harris. And it's going to take some time to fix it, y'all. Alien DNA apparently found it inside humans and inserted into our genes, according to a bonkers new study. That explains some people. Explains DeLauro up in New York. You know, it explains Dick Durbin, too. I've always had suspicions about those folks. Senator John Kennedy joins us next. Stick with us. Everybody remembers. You guys remember like 2020 and then when COVID hit the panic buying like nobody could get. You couldn't get nine millimeter. You can get anything. Empty shelves. All the ammo was super sky high in terms of price. You don't want to have that ever happen again. Ammo Squared is America's ammunition reserve. It is a worry-free solution to stockpiling your ammo for the future and avoid getting caught empty-handed. You can choose from over 70 calibers. You set your monthly budget, and then Ammo Squared will curate your supply automatically so you can set it, forget it, and ship it when you need it. They have a secure climate-controlled facility. that keeps all of your ammo fresh and safe until you decide to get it delivered. There's no minimums, there are no hidden fees, and you get free shipping on orders over $250. This is great, especially if you don't have a lot of, like I have one safe that's just ammo. And I'm like, I'm running out of room to store my stuff. So this is like a perfect solution for that. So if you're trying out new calibers, if you want to top off your training rounds, just stay ready for whatever comes. You can join the 100,000 plus members and a community with thousands of five-star reviews. Your readiness is Ammo Squared's mission. Visit AmmoSquared.com for a special offer and secure your ammo supply for the future. Do not get caught without ammo. Boo. Visit AmmoSquared.com. Keep yourself fully stocked and make sure to tell them that you heard about Ammo Squared here on The Dana Show. You always hear about what is the what is it? they say that it's Medicare enrollment season and everybody's like besieged. All of the people who are eligible are besieged by this stuff. And it can be incredibly confusing. You know, Obamacare didn't absolutely at all make anything better. And it feels like a circus because you're getting flooded with texts and you're getting the mailers and the robocalls. And the thing is, is that Medicare plans can change every year. And it doesn't matter if you're happy with your current plan or not. You still... have to check what's coming for the next year, in this case, 2026. If you don't review your options, you could lose the coverage you depend on. You need to call the folks at Chapter. They review every Medicare plan nationwide to ensure that you're not overpaying. And on average, they're saving people over $1,000 a year. Chapter stands out because their advisors are salaried. They don't work on commissions. They advocate for you, not the insurance company. And nobody wants more calls or stress, but Chapter can check out your options fast and get you settled in under 20 minutes. Don't you think that that's a good trade instead of like days and days and days and days and days of getting besieged by Medicare stuff? So if your current plan is still the best fit, you're all set. If not, they're going to help you switch at Chapter. No gimmicks, no pressure, just honest advice from the experts who know Medicare inside and out. Dial pound 250 and say the words, my Medicare. Medicare is too important, so don't risk it. Work with someone you can trust. And that's chapter. Dial pound 250 and say the words, my Medicare.
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The Washington managerial elite, the establishment, if you will, is working harder than an ugly stripper to cover up whatever happened.
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So I got to tell you, we have a thing in my house, my youngest son who watches the news. You know, he's very politically conservative, you know, very good Christian young man. And he just very quietly watches the news and watches this. And I noticed that he started introducing some new isms into his life. He started introducing some new sayings to his repertoire. And I'm like, some of this sounds familiar. And then I realized he's been watching Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana and literally like hijacking his sayings. And I said, I'm pretty sure I heard Senator Kennedy say this before. And he goes, he's one of the, he's like, he's my favorite in the Senate. He said he's hysterical. So he's got all of the he's got this huge group of kids, college campuses that really like what he says. He joins us now via video. Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana, his new book, How to Test Negative for Stupid and Why Washington Never Will is on sale today. There's the book cover right there. Senator, a pleasure to have you. We've tried for a while to get you on. And so it's a real treat for us. Welcome.
SPEAKER 20 :
The pleasure is mine, Dana. And I like your son already.
SPEAKER 15 :
You guys would be very good friends. You would be very good friends. He has a very similar sense of humor. But whenever you're on, he stops what he's doing and he's got to go and watch what you're going to say. He's like, he's going to say something. It's what he tells us. And you do. You deliver every time, Senator. And your book, I love this because. This has there's this reporter that I studied in school named Joe Mitchell, and it has a very Joe Mitchell vibe to it. It's just very homespun. And it gets into, you know, your beginnings and your experiences in Washington. And I got to tell you, one of the things that you had said recently, I about died laughing. You said that Lindsey Graham would vomit in your fish tank. Is that a true story, Senator?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, it did. What I said about Lindsey was I said, I love Lindsey. because he's unpredictable. I said, if you invite him to your home for dinner, he'll either come and have an interesting dinner conversation or he'll get drunk and vomit into your fish tank. You just never know what you're going to get with Lindsay. But Lindsay is just, I talk about him in the book. Lindsay's a rock star.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. And I love the way that you describe your colleagues you said of Chuck Schumer when he cuts loose he's like a five-year-old in a Batman costume on a sugar high and it's funny but it also you really get a very good idea of who these individuals are the way that you know them because we don't know them the way that you know them what inspired you to write this book well I've been thinking about it a while and I finally I
SPEAKER 20 :
sat down at my dining room table at home with a handheld dictaphone and I started dictating and then of course they put it in the computer and the computer spits out words and I edited that and I edited it and I edited it and I had an editor at HarperCollins And after five or six edits, we finally produced the book. It's not a book about policy per se, Dana. It's a storybook, but I use the stories to talk about policy. And many of the stories are funny. Some of them are bizarre. They're all true. I wrote the book to explain to people What the Senate is really like behind the scenes to explain to people why in Washington DC Normal is just a setting on the clothes dryer and and to try to help people understand Why it doesn't have to be this way. We just have a return to some common sense It's a pretty broad ranging book. I hope it makes people think I may make you laugh, may make you day drink. But it's all true.
SPEAKER 15 :
You have to have a good sense of humor, I would think, especially because it seems that that now, you know, it's so much different from what it was 20 years ago. Everything is very hyper polarized. And I was thinking about that when I saw Senator Grassley release these documents showing that the Biden FBI was spying on number of Republican senators during that Arctic frost investigation I saw this headline and then I saw the headline that it came out John Ratcliffe had declassified documentation showing that Biden was was having the CIA intervene and they were hiding his corrupt ties and his corrupt corrupt dealings in Ukraine is this Based on your experience in the Senate, this seems like a very accelerated abuse of power that we saw with the last administration and then the Obama-Biden administration. Talk to me a little bit about that, because it just feels like you are really being targeted by Democrats and very much were under the last administration.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, all of this is coming out about the Justice Department under President Biden through whistleblowers. And we don't know if we'll ever get the full story. And it's clear to me that the Biden administration was totally hypocritical about everything. They accused us of wanting to destroy democracy. And yet they were using the law and the rule of law as a weapon against their political opponents. I mean, we just found out last night that Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed by Attorney General Garland, got the telephone records of eight sitting United States senators. He got the records. And the senators didn't know anything about it. We found out about it from from a whistleblower. For reasons I'll never understand. Attorney General Garland decided to prosecute a former President of the United States, who happened to be Judge Garland's boss, opponent of Judge Garland's boss, Mr. Biden. I mean, that's never happened in America. That's the sort of thing that happens in a country whose Powerball jackpot is 287 chickens and a goat. It just doesn't happen in America. And this sort of weaponizing of the Justice Department and the FBI Happened every other Thursday. And now, of course, my Democratic colleagues are accusing President Trump of it. But what they did, they hit it. But now it's all coming out and we're going to get to the bottom of it.
SPEAKER 15 :
It seems like they impeached Trump for what Biden actually did. Is that a fair assessment?
SPEAKER 20 :
There's a lot to that. And when President Biden and Attorney General Garland decided to prosecute a political opponent, I said it at the time, Dana. They unleashed spirits they could not control. I knew as soon as they did that, for every force, there's an equal and opposite force. And here we go, off to the races. And I don't want that. I don't want the FBI or the Justice Department. I don't care what party they're in. But if they knock on my door, I don't want to have to worry about whether they're a Republican or Democrat. I think most Americans just want them to follow the law. And that's what Attorney General Bondi. and FBI Director Patel are trying to clean up. And of course, as they cleaned it up, many of my Democratic colleagues said, well, now you're picking on us. No, they're trying to get rid of the bad apples at Justice and at the FBI.
SPEAKER 15 :
Exactly. We're talking with Senator John Kennedy from the great state of Louisiana for those just joining us. And he's got a new book out as well that we've been talking a bit about how to test negative for stupid. I wanted to ask you to, Senator, because, you know, we've got this government shutdown ongoing. It seems like Republicans have done their part. Regardless of whether people like everything that's in this bill or not, Republicans did their part. Democrats had no problem supporting it when it was Biden's level of spending and backed in the House with the CR. But now in the Senate, they're trying to prove something. But I don't think that it's working. You all have been really good on messaging with this battle. What do you anticipate happening with this and how long do you think it's going to go on?
SPEAKER 20 :
It could go on a while, Dana. Here's what happened. My Democratic friends try to muddy the water to make it look deep, but here's what happened. Tuesday, a week ago at midnight, our budget ran out. And a couple of weeks before that, we started talking to the Democrats in the Senate and said, well, let's just extend the then current budget for another six weeks so we can continue to talk about a permanent budget. And then at the last minute, the Democrats came to us and said, No, we will vote to shut down government if you do not give us $1.5 trillion and we will tell you how to spend it. And that's the only way we will agree to open the government up for six more weeks. Well, well, you know, as I've said before, my mother didn't raise a fool. And if she did, it was one of my brothers. I wasn't going about to vote for that. And nowhere, nor were any of my colleagues. And that's why we're in a shutdown. All we asked and are asking is to open government back up and talk to us. We're not asking for anything else. And the Dems want $1.5 trillion. And they're going to get it when donkeys fly backwards. And until then, we're going to be in a shutdown.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. And I keep hearing the fear-mongering messages. They're really trying to play up the stuff with air traffic control. And they're trying to say, oh, these flight delays. That's because Republicans don't want to finance this. We had the same amount of delays and issues, though, under Biden-Harris. So I don't know why the
SPEAKER 20 :
public's not stupid no they're not and and that is what that's the biggest mistake that many of my democratic colleagues make they think the american people are stupid and now look the american people may not read aristotle every day because they're too busy earning a living but but they figure out they figure it out sooner or later what's going on and i think most Americans who get up every day and go to work and obey the law and pay their taxes and try to do the right thing by their children see exactly what's going on. And I don't want government to be shut down, but I'm not going to be extorted and I'm not going to allow the American people to be extorted. And I know how bad all this looks. You know, a lot of Americans are are looking at this and going, you know, we thought humans were more advanced as a species. I mean, this is a mess and it is a mess, but it's a mess that we have to have right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
Last question for you, Senator. A lot of people are concerned about the increase in political violence and a lot of the rhetoric that's coming from the left. Of course, they always like to point to the right. I think you're a really good example of how to get your point across with so much humor, and it's so cutting, and a lot of people have to sit and take a second to unpack it before they realize what it means. And it's always so good. What are your thoughts on I look at Virginia, for example, and this AG Democrat nominee that's running for AG down there. And I get the sense that if these people are rewarded by winning elections and having the public stamp of approval by ascending to public office, that that's just going to encourage that type of action. The endorsement of, you know, things like attacking ICE agents. and trying to set fire to federal courthouses and attacking Teslas and all this other stuff. I just feel like it increases the likelihood of that continuing and ramping up because there's no condemnation of it from the left, which is where it originates. And I just wanted to get your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 20 :
You can't hate. I don't hate anybody. It's hard sometimes in Washington. But when I say my prayers, I do every single time. I say, God, please don't let me hate anybody. I disagree. But once you start treating someone you disagree with as being not just in error, but in sin, as being evil, then somehow it seems to be justice if you want to see them hurt. And people lose all perspective, Dana. and lose all perspective. There's so many things in my life more important than politics. So all I can tell folks is look, don't worry. about being a good Republican or a good Democrat, just try to be a good human being and don't hate. Disagree, but don't hate. But unfortunately, we've seen a lot of it lately.
SPEAKER 15 :
We have. Senator John Kennedy, the new book, How to Test Negative for Stupid and Why Washington Never Will. I just really appreciate you. I appreciate every time. I love watching your interviews. We you're you're one that we actually genuinely like to watch. And we do watch it when we say we watch it. We do. I appreciate your time today and congrats on the book. Thank you, Senator.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
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President Baby Monkey, they've launched missiles. We are in imminent danger. You have to take action now. You can't yell at him like that. He's just a baby monkey. You're scaring him. Well, I guess we can just handle this ourselves, President Baby Monkey. Don't you worry about it.
SPEAKER 15 :
This is all AI. So now there's the, so a friend of mine did this. There's this app where you can do these like dramas. You can do like a little shorts and have a script for it and everything. And it's like the, all of it. I mean, that's, I mean, audio, somebody cut 16. This is another example. This is just hysterical. I am going to do horrible things with this.
SPEAKER 16 :
Pew, pew.
SPEAKER 11 :
Bam.
SPEAKER 16 :
Take that, Commander. Boom. He's going down. Someday, I'm going to have different pronouns.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's... Gosh, how sad would that be? They should have warned us, Kane. They should have warned us. But you can do... No, those kids are real. Those are all fake kids. It's all AI. It's gotten so good, Kane. I mean, some of it's a little...
SPEAKER 10 :
wonky there are some more that like okay 17 can i do cut do i have time for cut 17 or no no okay i'll save it then today in stupidity because i know i'm eating up your time let's do uh cut 11 here one because the dreaded view member whoopi goldberg this is what she had oh my gosh listen to her suggestion is it racist
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get a little cocoa butter sitting in the sun that's the first thing and then and this is the only time you can probably ever do this give yourself a latin accent you know whooping that is such a good idea and seeing if she can tell who's her it reminds me of the cc podway stuff from the biden administration i mean
SPEAKER 15 :
Didn't Ted Danson, Whoopi's ex, go in blackface?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Why would you? They're not just like, you look Hispanic. I'm going to arrest you. Like, that's not how that works.
SPEAKER 10 :
Republicans are racist.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my gosh. Folks, that does it for us today. Well, make sure you check out Substack Chapter and Verse, right? Also, YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow.
In this episode of Washington Watch, host Tony Perkins navigates through the pressing issues facing Israel as the world remembers the October 7th attack two years ago. With global anti-Semitism on the rise, the steadfast support of Israel is examined in light of peace talks and President Trump's 20-point plan. The discussion shifts to the U.S. domestic front, where Senator Lindsey Graham speaks out on the DOJ's controversial actions and discusses the ongoing government shutdown.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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We have to remember what October 7th marks. It was a massacre. It was the darkest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust. These are objective facts, and right now there are people protesting against Israel for fighting a war to defend their people and their homeland.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson expressing his unwavering support for Israel on the second anniversary of Hamas's brutal attack on Israel. Welcome to this October 7th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, coming up, the Biden Department of Justice is under fire for targeting Republican senators in its so-called Arctic Frost investigation. Senator Lindsey Graham, one of those targeted, joins me in just a moment. Then the Supreme Court takes up a major challenge to Colorado's counseling law restricting conversations with minors about sexual orientation and gender identity. Jonathan Scruggs from Alliance Defending Freedom, who attended today's oral arguments, will join me. Well, two years after Hamas's savage assault that killed over 1,200 Israelis and took 250 hostages, Israel remains steadfast in its fight to defend its people and defeat the terrorist organization Hamas. The 48 hostages still unaccounted for, many fear dead. A breakthrough may be emerging for the remaining live hostages as President Trump's peace plan drives talks aimed at ending the violence and securing their release. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who's been tracking this story throughout the day. Casey, what's the latest out of Israel?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, well, Tony, it has been a somber day across Israel. As you mentioned, today marks two years since Hamas' horrific October 7th attack, a day that was observed with sirens sounding nationwide and memorials that were held from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. families of hostages, they gathered in Hostages Square and across the country to honor their loved ones. Meanwhile, indirect peace talks between Israel and Hamas resumed in Egypt, centered on President Trump's 20-point peace plan. Now, both sides are considering terms for a ceasefire, which include hostage release and expanded humanitarian aid to Gaza. Now a U.S. delegation, which includes Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff, they joined those discussions today. And also earlier today, President Trump met with Canada's Prime Minister at the White House and expressed optimism that an agreement could be within reach.
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I think there's a possibility that we could have peace in the Middle East. It's something even beyond the Gaza situation. We want a release of the hostages immediately, etc. And so our team is over there now.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, Tony, as Israel remembers one of the deadliest terror attacks in decades, the world is watching closely.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, thanks, Casey, for that update. These past two years have revealed much. Not only the failure of the 2005 Gaza disengagement, which effectively handed control of Gaza to Hamas, which they used to launch their attack on Israel, but also a global rise in anti-Semitism like anything we've seen in nearly a century. Now here at Family Research Council, our support for Israel has never wavered and it never will. Now that doesn't mean a blank check for any government policy that we agree with everything that they do, but it does mean that we should pursue policies aligned with scripture, affirming Israel's right to exist and to live free from the threat of annihilation. The October 7th attack was barbaric. I've been to Israel five times since October 7th. I've been through these communities. I've met with former hostages, families of hostages. This must not be minimized. And we should continue to pray for Israel. Later in the program, Chris Mitchell, CBN's Middle East Bureau Chief, is going to join us from Jerusalem. Now, turning to another critical issue here at home, Casey, the U.S. Supreme Court heard a major case today involving religious freedom and free speech.
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What can you tell us? Yeah, you're right, Tony. This is a huge case with big implications. So a Christian therapist, Kaylee Childs, she's challenging Colorado's ban on so-called conversion therapy for minors. She argues it censors voluntary conversations about faith and identity.
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Colorado's law hurts kids struggling with gender dysphoria. If counselors wish to engage clients on these issues, the law limits them to one option of encouraging kids to reject their body. That is a tragedy.
SPEAKER 02 :
Childs says the law violates her First Amendment rights and prevents her from helping clients who simply want their lives to align with their faith. Now this case in question, Childs v. Salazar, it could set a national precedent on professional speech and religious liberty, Tony.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Thanks, Casey. We're going to actually go a little bit deeper in that case with ADF Senior Counsel Jonathan Scruggs a little bit later when he joins us. But first, another news related to the courts. Louisiana Attorney General Liz Merle is taking on the FDA over the abortion drug Mifeprestone. I spoke with her earlier today, Casey, but it was before I saw the suit. What's the latest on this?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, that's right, Tony. I know this is an issue you and FRC have been leading on, but yesterday, Louisiana filed a lawsuit challenging the Biden administration's 2023 FDA rule. Now, that rule allows the abortion pill Mifepristone to be mailed even to states like Louisiana that ban abortions. So a lawsuit argues that the pill is unsafe, and that the FDA just ignored those key safety concerns, and that the rule, of course, violates the law. Louisiana, they're seeking to block the rule to protect their laws, unborn babies, and the health of women, Tony.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, Casey, tomorrow, actually here on Washington Watch, we're going to be joined by the Attorney General of Louisiana, and she's going to tell us why Louisiana had to take this legal action against the Trump administration to uphold the state's pro-life laws. Thanks so much, Casey. Thanks, Tony. All right, I want to go back now to yesterday's disclosure of the FBI targeting eight Republican senators and one member of the House as a part of its Arctic Frost investigation. Joining me now to discuss this and a whole lot more is U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who was one of the Republican members who was targeted. He serves on several Senate committees, including the Judiciary Committee. He joins us by phone. Senator Graham, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Tony. Talk about chilling free speech. Arctic frost. They're tracking you. What they hear, what they find out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, this is not about free speech. It's about separation of powers. It's about my ability as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee on January 4th through the 7th to find out what I need to learn before I vote to certify an election, whether or not my committee and the Senate should do an investigation of what happened in 2020. We're a separate branch of government. The idea that Jack Smith's FBI agents in 2023 would look at my phone records as to who I called, where I was at, and how long those phone calls lasted is unconstitutional in my view, is appalling, and should make people worried all over the country, whether you like me or not. This is a very big deal. Kash Patel and Dan Bongino have done a great job cleaning up this mess, and I will let you know what I learn in the future.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Chuck Grassley, said that this is arguably worse than Watergate. You agree?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, just think about it. There are eight United States senators, all Republican, that were surveilled by FBI agents working for Jack Smith. People got to realize that Jack Smith was a special counsel appointed to investigate Trump. He was appointed three days after Trump announced in 2022 who was going to run for office again. Within five months of President Trump announcing in 2022 he would seek the nomination for the Republican Party in 2024 to run for president, there were four jurisdictions indicted him with 60 or 70 felony charges. New York, the Attorney General, Manhattan DA, Fulton County DA, Fannie Willis, Jack Smith brought charges against him for mishandling classified information and trying to change the outcome of the 2020 election. One indictment in Washington, D.C., the other in Florida. So within five months of announcing he's going to run again, he had four of the most liberal jurisdictions in the country load him up with charges. And I think it wasn't about 2020. It was designed to stop him for 2024. In 2023, we now know. Jack Smith, FBI agents were looking at my phone calls and that of my fellow colleagues regarding 2020. This is a big deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
OK. And we haven't heard the last of this. We're going to hear more.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I hope so.
SPEAKER 03 :
OK. All right. Because a lot of times we hear these things and then we just kind of move on because there's some other outrageous thing that happens. But you're right. This is a this is separation of powers. This is a big deal. If it's not addressed, it'll happen again.
SPEAKER 04 :
Amen.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Let's move on because I only have you for four more minutes and there's a lot to cover. I want to talk about very quickly government shutdown. We're in day seven here and there's now talk. The president said he might be open to some negotiations over these subsidies, these premium subsidies for ACA or the Obamacare. What do we know?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think I don't know how this movie is going to end, but I know this. When you have a policy dispute, you don't shut down the government to resolve it. That's holding people hostage. The subsidies we're talking about are Obamacare. They apply to people that make 400 percent above poverty. Insurance companies get paid for everybody they enroll. I think there's a lot of fraud. It needs to be reformed. And I'm not going to extend these subsidies in current form. OK. And shutting down the government to get me to do that is not going to work. And I hope we all.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it should be known that these were only done for like during the covid area. It was supposed to be a short term behind us. That's right. Right. And but one thing, Senator Graham, if these are negotiated either post a government shutdown or. The thing about Obamacare, the ACA, it does not have hide protections. This ought to be a part of the conversation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. As a matter of fact, you know, COVID's behind us. Obamacare is just escalating costs like we said it would. Obamacare is not health care reform. It's taking money from the middle class to give to people in lower income levels their health care virtually free. It's a reallocation of money. to create health care programs for people based on income, and most of the money is coming from the middle class. You're paying more. Some people get it for free. That's not health care reform. That's sort of redistributing the income.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know who gets the biggest cut is the insurance companies are making a killing off of this.
SPEAKER 04 :
A killing. They get paid for every person they sign up. And some of these people may not even exist. That's what I want to look at.
SPEAKER 03 :
So it's the fraud. You just throw trillions of dollars at it, you're going to get more fraud. All right. Less than two minutes left, Senator Graham. Today, October 7th, two years ago, Hamas launched this attack on Israel. It now appears the world's turned against Israel, not Hamas.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's kind of sad. You know, people don't like strong Jewish people, apparently. Every time Israel is strong, it gets condemned. Anti-Semitism exists, but every time Israel fights back and strikes back, the world piles on. Two years ago today, the largest loss of Jewish life occurred in the most barbaric attack since the Holocaust. It was designed to prevent Saudi Arabia from recognizing Israel. It is directly related to Iran's support for Hamas. They filmed it so you couldn't look away. I am more dedicated than ever to destroying Hamas. make sure they never come back, and see if we can get Saudi Arabia and Israel back on track to end the Arab-Israeli conflict. That's the best way to win this war.
SPEAKER 03 :
Does that 20-point plan eliminate Hamas in the threat of the future? It does, but Hamas has to disarm.
SPEAKER 04 :
They can't be part of the future of the Palestinian world. Is that negotiable? Well, to me, that's non-negotiable. If that is not achieved, the whole thing fails.
SPEAKER 03 :
I would agree with you, Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 04 :
God bless.
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Look, you can't allow this situation in Gaza to go back to to allow Hamas to remain in power and rebuild and simply launch another attack. They took over in 2007. All right. The disengagement was 2005. Hamas was, quote, unquote, elected in 2007. They spent all of this time preparing for what happened two years ago. All right, coming up next, the Supreme Court back in session. Big case today. We're going to talk about it next year on Washington Watch. Don't go away.
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All right, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us on this Tuesday. I think it's Tuesday. It's been a long week already. Coming up October 17th and 18th, the PrayVote Stand Summit in... California. Actually, we're going to California. Southern California, PrayVoteStand at Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills. To find out more and to register, go to PrayVoteStand.org. All right, and one of the reasons we're gathering is to address issues like we saw here today in Washington. One day after returning to the bench for the new term, the U.S. Supreme Court heard the case of a Colorado licensed counselor who's challenging her state's counseling censorship law. Legacy Media is describing the case as a case against conversion therapy. But the Colorado law does more than that. It forbids a licensed counselor from even having voluntary conversations with minors about sexual orientation or gender identity, unless it directs young people towards so-called gender transition. It's a one-way street. So how'd it go today? Well, joining me to share what happened inside the courtroom is Jonathan Scruggs. He's a senior counsel and vice president of litigation strategy at Alliance Defending Freedom, which is representing the Colorado Licensed Counselor. Jonathan, welcome back to Washington Watch. Oh, thanks for having me. Good to have you in studio. So quick summary of the case, what it was about.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, like you said, it's really about a case involving a licensed counselor from Colorado who counsels kids to help them achieve their voluntary goals to grow comfortable with their bodies if they're struggling with issues like gender dysphoria or discomfort.
SPEAKER 03 :
So it's a free speech issue. It's a right of access issue for parents and children that want this type of counseling that are being denied it in the state of California.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. This is totally conversation. So it's all that we're talking about. And kids and families who are struggling with this issue, right? Like, where do they go? What help do they need? They want to engage in just conversation.
SPEAKER 03 :
So what's this? The media is a conversion therapy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I mean, I think they use that term. And I mean, there's I'm sure people do. It's a loaded term. It's a loaded term. And it's not doesn't really accurately describe what our client.
SPEAKER 03 :
So this is this is. counseling, like you would go to anybody and say, okay, so what's happening in your life? Exactly. And sometimes it goes back to trauma that they might have experienced, but it's tracing back to the roots. But right now, in Colorado, in a total, almost two dozen states have these type of laws that ban this type of counseling. The only option you have is surgery and drugs, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. They're pushing you to the surgery and drugs. These young kids, and that harms them. Why are we banning counselors from helping kids with helpful conversations?
SPEAKER 03 :
Non-invasive counseling, just having a conversation.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just conversations, but we're going to push them to have surgeries that will alter their lives forever.
SPEAKER 03 :
So do you think the court, the nine justices saw that today?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think so. And it probably is, you know, I wouldn't say shocking, but like even the more liberal and progressive justices were asking really difficult questions of Colorado because Colorado's argument is essentially we get to say whatever happens. We get to regulate what happens in this counseling room, these conversations, whatever we say goes. And I think the liberal and progressive justices were realizing that's not a good thing, right? Because that means the government can just shut down any conversation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, Jonathan, let me ask you this because Alliance Defending Freedom Very supportive. We work a lot with Alliance Defending Freedom. Great, great group. We appreciate you guys. You've been to the court a number of times for cases out of Colorado. Masterpiece cake, cake bakers. So what's going on in Colorado? Are the justices seeing that something is happening in Colorado?
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, I wish I could say that Colorado got the message, but we have to keep going. And we're currently litigating numerous cases on behalf of businesses. I think we have like four or five pending cases just in Colorado. And many of these are going to the Supreme Court. You would hope they get the message to respect the First Amendment. I mean, in the past, they've tried to. ban, you know, fringe the First Amendment.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they've lost.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they've lost every time. You know, so even after, and Jack Phillips, who was the cake designer in Colorado, after we won at the Supreme Court, they went after him again after that. Right. And we won that too. So we actually have a pretty good record. I think we might be undefeated against the state of Colorado.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just don't get it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I mean, it's just an ideology. And that's the key thing here, is that in this issue, when kids and families are struggling, why is the government pushing them toward this ideology to accept this gender ideology?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so we've just got a few minutes left here, Jonathan. As I mentioned in passing a moment ago, they're not the only state. There's a total of 23 states that have laws like this. So first, what do you think the likely outcome is in this case?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm pretty hopeful, like I said, just from the conversations that we're having at the court today, that everyone, almost every justice seemed pretty skeptical. So I'm hopeful that we get a strong victory. so what will this do for parents and children and counselors across the country in these other states that have these totalitarian rules in place it'll free up the counselors to give the help families need and let me let me stress this nine percent of kids who are struggling with this issue struggling with issues of gender dysphoria they naturally grow comfortable with their bodies so why are we pushing kids away from that from away from getting the help and the care
SPEAKER 03 :
We also know that underlying, in most cases, there's some trauma that they've experienced in life. And if you just medicate that or cover it up with some surgery, it's not going to be dealt with.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, what should be the answer? The answer should be counseling. Right. Right. And that's exactly what Colorado is banning, which is that's the crazy thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
You mentioned the ideological bent here. There's a reason for this. They don't want, it's almost like they want people to suffer by going down this path.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I mean, why take away the choice from parents and kids toward the right path? You're pushing them toward something, like I said, toward drugs, towards cross-sex hormones, toward puberty blockers, toward surgeries that could make kids lifelong patients. That's just, it's harmful. It's a sad thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
But that's the world in which we live. And this is consistent, Jonathan, with what we see in the left and in the cancel culture that we've been experiencing for the last decade is that their positions are so indefensible that they don't want to have conversations about it. They want to lock people into harmful, really destructive decisions.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think that's really the problem with gender ideology, right? It denies the truth. When you deny the truth, who gets hurt? Kids and women. And that's what's happening in states like Colorado.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, Jonathan, the court generally, after they hear these oral arguments, don't they get together usually at the end of the week and they kind of hash through and start to formulate their opinions?
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. They meet together, they vote, and then you enter into kind of a negotiation process, like a joint project to write the actual opinion.
SPEAKER 03 :
So when should our listeners and viewers be praying specifically for the court? Is they kind of... distill down their opinions?
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, I would be praying now because even now when they have that first vote, it's going to be important because that kind of starts that negotiation process. And we could get an opinion as late as June of next year.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, well, we'll be praying. Jonathan, thanks for stopping in. Great to see you. Again, appreciate the work that ADF does. Thank you so much. And folks, I would encourage you to pray for the court. A big session, of course, a big case today. And so be praying for these justices that they would be directed to do what is right and in the best interest of Americans and that they would align with truth. All right, don't go away because we have more Washington Watch on the other side of the break.
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All right, welcome back. The website, tonyperkins.com. Better yet, get the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store, get the Stand Firm app, where you can have Washington Watch with you no matter where you go, and you'll have access to our news and commentary from a biblical perspective and my morning devotion. Stand on the Word. That can be found at the App Store, the Stand Firm app. All right, it's time now for our weekly Standing Together segment, where we highlight organizations that share our commitment to advance the kingdom of God by championing faith, family, and freedom. And this week, we want to give attention to the Teacher Freedom Alliance, a new national organization that is working to protect the First Amendment rights of educators and to ensure that parents, parents, Not bureaucrats or union bosses remain at the center of education. Joining me now is the new CEO of the Teacher Freedom Alliance, Ryan Walters, who assumed this role last week after previously serving as Oklahoma State Superintendent of Public Instruction. Ryan, welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thank you for having me, Tony.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first off, start off by telling us a little more about the Teacher Freedom Alliance.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, thank you Tony. You know what we've seen are teachers that try to bring any kind of moral value to the classroom. Any kind of conservative value have been under attack from the teachers unions from the Federal Department of Education. Donald President Donald Trump's done a great job of eliminating that federal Department of Education. It's on its way out. But you have this teachers union that again, pushes Marxism, pushes woke ideology in the classroom. And if you're a conservative teacher, you are absolutely thrown to the wolves. They attack you, they dox you, they are pushing a left-wing agenda. So the Teacher Freedom Alliance, we are here to support good conservative teachers from across the country who understand what education should be. It's about making sure kids get the education that their parents want for them, not a bureaucrat, Not a left wing teachers union, but a basic education where they understand academics. They understand moral value. They understand what the country was built on. We want patriotic Americans and we're going to support those teachers and we're building a teacher army Tony so that we can go out and get the classrooms back and create classrooms that will make America great again.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, Ryan, you're going to go toe to toe with these woke liberal teacher unions. And you're going to do that, I guess, by building an army of volunteer teachers who say, you know what, I don't want any more of that. I need to have a collective voice with some of my like minded colleagues.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's right, that's right. So what we're doing is we're putting together thousands of teachers from across the country. We're in every state in the country and we're going to continue to provide them all the support they need when if they get sued by their district by their union and you've heard it a time and time again, you know if a if a teacher comes in with a cross necklace they get sued if they come in and there's a Bible verse somewhere they get sued, we're going to have their back. not going to allow these left wing activists to drive every good teacher out of the classroom. So we're building this community to go in and say, hey, we're some of the best teachers in the country. We're here to get education back. We're going to give them the supports that they need so that then they can go into the classrooms, teach our kids. We can't give up on this war, Tony. If they can the classroom they win the future and that's what the Marxist teachers unions have done such an effective job of they control it they have dominated our classrooms they've indoctrinated our kids and we're not going to stand for it another minute we are going to destroy the teachers you all right Ryan how can teachers and I know we've got a lot of teachers listen to the program across the country how can they find out more about this new opportunity to take back the classroom away from the unions Teachers come sign up at the teacherfreedomalliance.com. Sign up. We have your back. We are going to provide you the best professional development in the country. We're going to make sure you're protected when the unions come after you. And we're going to make sure that you are in a community full of like-minded teachers that want to make America great. we are absolutely so excited about this work and please anybody even if you're not teachers sign up we want we want to have your support to have your help this is the battle for the future of the country we've got to take the classrooms back and this initiative is growing and we want you a part of it so i assume ryan that you're going to be having a gathering of these teachers i would imagine at some point in time Next summer, we're going to have a huge summit, Tony. We had hundreds of folks show up already at our last summit. And so we're going to make it even bigger this next summer. So we want all the teachers to attend. We want parents, grandparents, anybody who wants to be involved in this effort. Because again, it is going to take all of us to beat back. You know the teachers union is the biggest donor to the Democratic Party in the country. They use anything at their disposal to push their indoctrination, to push their Marxist schemes. So we need all the help we can get, and again, We are absolutely in this to win it. And so, yes, sir, we're gonna have the biggest summit ever next summer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, what are you gonna do about those places where teachers are being forced to join these unions?
SPEAKER 17 :
We're going to take the unions on. We're going to take the fight to them. We have got to get back to right to work. Unions can't control schools. We're seeing it in blue states all over the country. What do they do? They force you to join the union. Then they take your union dues and weaponize it politically. And I don't know if you saw Randy Weingarten last week. She had a teacher come up to her and go, you know, I don't agree with all the political spending. And she said, well, then you should just leave then because we're not going to stop.
SPEAKER 03 :
just unabashed they take your take your money and use it against you contrary to your values and your political persuasion all right ryan we're almost out of time but one final question for you does this mean you have to leave oklahoma are you able to stay in the the sooner state i'm staying in the soon i'm going to stay in the sooner state love the sooner state oklahoma i'm an okie for life there so absolutely get to stay in oklahoma and we're going to continue our outreach to all 50 states Well, I can tell you those Oklahoma values are good, and I hope you take those all across the country into classrooms. So we're going to be tracking this very, very closely and look forward to having you back on as that next big event takes place. We'll help you promote it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thank you, Tony. Appreciate your work.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Right. You heard him. If you're a teacher, want to be involved in education, check out the website. If you missed it, go to Tony Perkins dot com and we'll have some links there for you. But I think this is very important. You know, I'm a big advocate of homeschooling, but not everybody can homeschool. And so we cannot abandon the public school system. We need good teachers that are. called to go into the classroom and teach children and be a light in a very dark place. And I'm glad to see Ryan's going to be there helping organize to provide support and encouragement for those teachers. All right, don't go away. Chris Mitchell joins us from Jerusalem next.
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There are so many different audiences that can benefit. The first one are counselors themselves, right? Because we have some material in there where we really address the gender dysphoria diagnosis and what is wrong with it. We have information for people who are wanting to go back to embracing God's design for their life.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Good to be with you again, Tony, especially on a day like today.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is. And I've been with you, actually, as I mentioned, down in some of those kibbutz. You were with me when we went down there right at the beginning of the following year after the attack. Let me ask you, first off, how has Israel been marking this painful anniversary?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, it's an interesting day, Tony, you know, two years after October 7th. But it's also the first day of Sukkot, the Feast of Tabernacles. So obviously a commemoration, a sad day, a mournful day. But also the first day of Sukkot is a joyful time to celebrate what God did for the Israelites as they came out of Egypt and into the Promised Land. He protected them. You can hear actually shofars being blown throughout the day here. And so it's a mixture of celebration and also anticipation. We know that right now there's negotiations going on in Cairo and the negotiations presumably will help release all of the hostages, both those that are deceased. their bodies and the ones that are remaining alive. So I would say there's a mixture of emotions right now. I would say predominantly anticipation. I mean, this will be a huge turnaround, two years almost to the day. If these hostages are relieved, it will be a huge celebration, a huge sense of relief because the whole nation and many people around the world, Tony, have carried these hostages in their hearts and in their prayers. And to see them released, all of them, all in one day, will be a huge, momentous time here in the Jewish state.
SPEAKER 03 :
Almost everyone. I mean, everyone wants to see those hostages come home. But you talk about the mixture of feelings. There's also a sense that the threat has to be eliminated of Hamas. And I know there are some that do not want to end this prematurely in terms of eliminating that threat of Hamas that came across that border as they were living peacefully with the Palestinians, or at least they thought they were, until October the 7th.
SPEAKER 21 :
Exactly, Tony. That's why for two years there's been competing emotions. Some Israelis here are saying let's get them out regardless. And that's sort of the bring them home now. We'll pay whatever price is that just get them home safely. And the other ones is sort of let let my people go is saying let's force Hamas to let them go. And let's not fall short of total victory. And let's not. The sacrifice of hundreds of men and women on the front lines, let not their sacrifice be in vain. And so that's part of the wrestling going on here emotionally is between these two competing, you know, ideas of how do we end this war?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, Chris, I had not actually thought about that until you just mentioned that those two competing views that I seen and heard as I've been in Israel. Let my people go has biblical implications there, not just because that's what Moses said, but there was a price that Pharaoh paid for not letting his people, letting Moses's people go.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. And apparently Hamas has paid already has paid a price but may pay the ultimate price if all of the 20 points are adhered to that they would release all of the hostages which has been their leverage for two years. Also disarm which would leave them sort of defenseless in a sense and also leave. Some of them would would be allowed to leave. So Hamas has paid a price. But the goal of the war, Tony, the three main ones has been to make sure that Hamas is defeated militarily. They have no ability to rule or have an influence in Gaza after the war and to make sure all the hostages come home.
SPEAKER 03 :
Chris Mitchell, let's talk about this for a moment. You've been in Israel with CBN News about as long as I've been here at the Family Research Council, for over two decades. So you've seen a lot, you've experienced a lot there living in Jerusalem. This has been the most trying time for the Jewish people since the Holocaust. How has this changed Israel from your perspective as you see this from Jerusalem?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, the most trying since the Holocaust and certainly and since I landed here. And I landed here just at the beginning of the second Intifada. That was about a four year period of many terror attacks. But even October 7th goes far beyond that. How have I seen Israeli change? They are resilient. They have managed this. two years. It reminds me of my mom and dad who they they met just before World War Two. My dad went overseas for about four years. And and that was certainly a trying time. And we're getting to that point. Two years where just almost on a daily basis. Israel has fought a seven front war with Hezbollah Hamas the Houthis Iran and others. And yet they've gone through and they've managed to degrade or defeat almost all of their enemies. And they will likely they already are stronger now in the Middle East and the region to become a regional and almost a global superpower. And the the the the Support of the Trump administration has been invaluable, but I would say as well, Tony, the support of evangelicals around the world has been enormous. And I was talking to Deputy Mayor Floor Hassan Nahum the other day. She mentioned that, that the evangelical support, the prayers, the emotional, moral, and even political support has been invaluable to the Jewish people during their darkest hours since the Holocaust.
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Let me ask you about that, Chris, because, I mean, evangelicals have long been supportive of Israel. Bible-believing Christians, and they take tours over, and they support Israel. But given this moment where you see anti-Semitism really encompassing the globe, you see the nations lining up against them. By the way, France, you know, being the first, and now it looks like France, their government's falling apart. Should be a lesson there for the other countries. But the fact that when the whole world is lining up against them, Have they taken notice that it is evangelicals? And do you think that this will change the relationship once all of this is resolved, that there'll be a closer relationship between the Jewish state and evangelicals around the world?
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I think there already is a closer relationship with the Jewish people the Jewish world the state of Israel and evangelicals. I think the current government I think broadly leaders here in Israel recognize the value of evangelical support their prayers and their moral support even political support. And I would caution though Tony you know some of that support. can't be taken for granted because you look at a younger generation that is getting influenced by influencers, by TikTok, by some of the misinformation that's going on. That sort of eroded some of the support of younger generations. And I think even I think people in the church really need to perhaps solidify this support of standing with Israel. It's really a test, I think, for the church because so many, for example, so many accusations of genocide that have been repeated over and over and over again makes even some people that are supporters of Israel say, well, maybe something's happening here. Those charges are untrue, but still the information war is maybe just as important as the military campaign that Israel's been fighting for two years. But having said all that, the evangelical support is just paramount for Israel right now.
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Well, you're absolutely right. What the media has done in the last two years, pounding each and every day, just as every story comes out. And look, if... There's very little said about the fact that if Hamas had not come across and killed 1,200 people and taken 251 hostages, there would be no conflict in Gaza City right now. There would not be Palestinian civilians that had been killed as a result of this war. So Israel would not have just gone in there and started bombing had they not been trying to get their people back. So I think the media has been very one-sided on this. But to your point, I think there's a softness that's been there, and it's primarily because there's not been a teaching of the biblical and the the prophetic role of Israel and that replacement theology has come in. And so I think two things, Chris, I think needs to happen is that we need our churches teaching. And I think more Christians need to go to Israel and actually see it firsthand. And it just opens up a whole new understanding.
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It really does. When people are here for themselves, they see the land of the Bible. That's real. That's true. They can see where Jesus walked. They can see so many of the sites of the Bible, whether up in the Galilee or here in the city of Jerusalem. It makes a huge difference. And also to your point, education, the fact that replacement theology says, well, Israel's been replaced by the church. Well, he made a covenant with the Jewish people all the way from Genesis throughout the old covenant and even into the new. and if he can't keep his covenant with the jewish people what about us what we can't he keep his covenant with us as well so that that really needs there needs to be education i believe in the church because many places pastors from what i've heard really have have fallen into replacement theology so i think there's a really need for education and help combat the misinformation that has pummeled israel for two years and lord and and i'll just and At this one point, Tony, when the very beginning of the war and Hamas is putting out these death tolls and automatically we knew that these were exaggerated, they were they were amplified. And yet the media ran with them. And that's why Israel has suffered so much in the information battlefield, just like in the military battlefield.
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Well, and the media loves to tell a narrative that is against the Jewish state. We've seen that. And that in itself, that in itself, when you see how the world lines up against Israel, should, as a Christian, should be a signal to you that there's something here. There's something about a nation that is 150th in terms of its size out of 193, that this one little country becomes the focus of the entire world. There's got to be a little more to Israel than meets the eye. And I think you cannot see this without an understanding of the spiritual nature, the biblical nature. But again, when you put your feet on the ground there as well, you realize it's a state, a nation the size of New Jersey. And when you talk about carving up that land and giving it to a Palestinian state right in the heart of Israel, you begin to understand that that's not possible. That's not feasible if you really want Israel to have their own state.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, it's been it's been cut up ever since the British mandate, you know, back in 1920. This land, as well as Jordan, was actually given to the British government to have a mandate to help establish a Jewish homeland here. And that's been cut up since 1922, you know, even more in 1947 and the partition plan and then two different wars here. And as you said, the world wants to carve it up even more, but Israel can't afford to have any more land taken away.
SPEAKER 03 :
And just, I want to pray, but just to see what's happened in the last two years, how God has miraculously delivered them from all of those enemies around is truly amazing as well and speaks to the biblical aspects of this. Chris, we just have about 45 seconds left. up here. Sure.
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Father, thank you so much for what you've done in two years. You have helped defeat Israel's enemies. But now, two years after October 7th, we pray for comfort on your people, that mourning would be turned into joy. And we pray especially for the release of these hostages within these next few days. We pray for wisdom for the leaders, Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump, in Jesus' name.
SPEAKER 03 :
amen chris thanks so much for joining us always great to see you thanks for staying up late thanks sonny All right, Chris Mitchell with CBN News. And folks, as we pray, when we pray for the peace of Israel, the peace of Jerusalem, it's everybody that's in that land, within the borders of the land. And that includes the Arabs, the Palestinians. We want everyone to benefit from the peace of that land. And so we pray for all of the people there and for this conflict to be, it's not going to be resolved until the Prince of Peace returns, but it can be managed for now. And so that's what we pray for. Thanks so much for joining us. Let me leave you once again with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul, found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you could do, when you've prayed, when you've prepared and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. Welcome listeners, it's actually Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesdays. And in the studio I have my good friend Jeremy Sova. Jeremy, say hi to everybody. Hey everybody, it's great to be back. Fantastic. Glad that the clouds have broke, the rain has stopped. It's a gorgeous day here in Denver, Colorado. It's a great day to be alive. It sure is. I saw the golf course is full on the way here. I was a little jealous. That makes two of us. So thank you for listening. I really appreciate it. Jeremy and I, because he comes into my office quite frequently, and we both have the same thought of what happened to Charlie Kirk. So, guys, if you could bear with us, I would like to take, you know, 10 seconds as a moment of silence in honor of Charlie and what he stood for and what he did for this nation, okay? So 10 seconds if you don't mind. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you for that. I really do appreciate it. And lately we've been losing a lot of giants. I mean, we lost Charlie Kirk. We've lost Hulk Hogan. Guys like that. It makes you think of your mortality. When you start looking at it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. It's interesting that we know now that we can do certain things to help prevent those from happening for the younger generation. So I'm so honored to be able to do this over and over again. So thank you, Dr. Faulkner. Yes, my pleasure.
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So in the third hour, we promised that we're going to get a little more serious on that topic. Um, and as men and women, but primarily men, cause we're guys, uh, we're actually going to call you guys out and, um, and no more of this pussy footing around, no more sitting on the sidelines, no more just being a neutral observer. You need to steel your spine. You need to stand up and be a man. Lead your family in a strong way, not slapping people around. But you had better open your eyes to what's going on. Your government hates you, and there are a bunch of people out there running around in black pajamas that will put a bullet in your head just as soon as they look at you. So it's a wake up call to all of us. Some of us have been prepared a little longer. It's been a journey. And I would like to give folks some tools and maybe start thinking a little differently in the world that we live in right now. What do you think, Jeremy?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that's great. As a matter of fact, myself, it's been about 30 years or so, and I've started to go back into Scripture, and I'm reading the St. James Bible front to cover. And so far, I've had some pretty interesting reminders that are making me do exactly what you just said, kind of step up, be a better man, be a better husband, be a better father, be a better human, be a better neighbor. So I think that's great that this is on the agenda.
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Yeah, and so that'll be the third hour. First couple hours, what Jeremy and I would like to do is basically paint an overview. A lot of you guys have been listening to us, and I know sometimes you're in your car or you're at work, and you don't get all of what we're saying. So you hear us say, wow, you can live a really incredible life. We can reverse aging forever. We can make you feel well. We can help you lose weight. But we would like to give the gestalt or the overview of what we've been talking about. Today is not going to be a deep dive day on each and every topic. So as you guys continue to listen over the next several months, hopefully to the next year or so, we will take those deep dives. And become very specific. And if you guys want to call in and ask questions, you can. The number is 303-477-5600. But, Jeremy, I would like to start with that gestalt or that overview. And why are we telling people first and foremost to look at their insurance plans? Because we have open enrollment coming up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. It's usually in November, especially if you're on a government-based program. And I agree. I've had a lot of people come to me and they go, like, I've seen what you've been able to accomplish, and I'm blown away by it. I want to get involved, but it seems like a lot. Like, how do we do this? So I think that's why we kind of came up with today is kind of what we call the cookbook. You know, how do we give a big overview of kind of the steps to take to get this done? And like Dr. Faulkner said, in the months to come, we'll drill down into more specificity on, you know, the how-to, but it needs to be a phased approach. It's really a system, right, from start to finish. On the health insurance note, a little quick recap for those that may not have been listening a few months back or not listened to the Rush to Reason podcast on Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio, and KLZ Radio's website. So there's an FSA HSA. I'm sure you guys have heard of those before. It stands for Flex Spending Account or Health Savings Account. Most employers have some sort of a flex spending option for you, and you can allocate, excuse me, You can allocate certain funds that go to your... Yeah, you better take a drink.
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You're going to lose it. So that's right. You can set aside monies from your paycheck pre-taxed into an FSA. Now, the FSA, your employer actually owns that plan, and it does not roll over to the next year. So that's why a lot of people this time of year, they're buying things like Band-Aids, eyeglasses, and things like that, right? Yeah.
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That's right. And the most important way to go is a health savings account. So this is something that you can do on your own. If you're getting on the Obamacare plan, you look. There's a certain PPO and HMO options that may or may not have it, but look for it. Look for a health savings account, HSA. Go to your local credit union. Ask your banker. And if you get one of these accounts, I think you can contribute up to around $7,700 a year currently. And Congress is looking at increasing that. So that's money that you can spend on your health care over the course of your lifetime. And the stuff we're going to talk about is probably going to get pretty close to that annual amount at a minimum if you want to do all the things. But even if you do some of it and there's money left over at the end, you can pull it out tax free like an IRA when you're 59 and a half years old. So it's a really good way to at least break off some of the disposable income, you know, to address how to, you know, better your health care. We mentioned before it's We're seeing now that this literature, this data, Brian Johnson's proof, the proof of me now as an expert biohacker, my case study, my lab work, my progress. This is absolutely happening. It's possible. And I would spend twice as what the amount of money that I'm spending now, if I knew now, or if I knew then what I know now. So that's a good way to put your toe in the water. And then if you do, you know, want to talk about more of a, you know, kind of a Cadillac or Lamborghini type membership, offline, reach out, you know, to Dr. Faulkner. And there's programs that we can put together that's similar to mine as well.
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Yeah. And you can reach us at our clinic, the Castle Rock Regenerative Health Care. Our number is 303-663-6990, 303-699-6990. And myself, the staff, we're very flexible, very happy to help. answer any questions that we can now I have patients all the way from near Yellowstone up near Steamboat Springs out on the plains it's crazy how everybody who's listening they love this they're like I can't find a doctor who thinks like you first and foremost, who actually listens to me and will give me 30 minutes of free consultation just to hear what I have to say, that's unheard of. Like, well, yeah, that's why I do what I do. I'm rare as hen's teeth. But you need to find somebody like myself. Because let's face it, you're, and I'll say it again, your doc in the box has no clue. He's under the thumb or she's under the thumb of that CEO of that corporate center, whether it be HCA, whether it be United Healthcare or UC Health here in Colorado, whether it's Common Spirit or Advent Health and or even Health One. And they're telling these doctors, you've got five minutes to talk to that patient. Well, you can't do anything in five minutes. And I hear this every single day. Yes, my doc in the box gave me five minutes for my annual exam. I went in there. He's like, OK, let's order a couple of labs. You don't even get to review it because it's being done once you're done with your visit. Then they send you an email, nice job, see you in a year, keep up the good work. And the biomarkers or the lab tests that they do is so minimal, they're not going to find anything.
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They don't even scratch the surface. They look at kind of the basic bare minimum of what they were taught over the last 50 years of medicine 2.0. But half of them don't even realize that – The perfect cholesterol still results in 75% of all the heart attacks out there. So you need to find a clinic like your clinic, Dr. Faulkner, or a doctor like yourself that you can have these discussions with. Because even if you're at the opposite side of the country, you can give them what they need based on them going to a local Quest Labs that you write for them. You can get the biomarkers. You don't even need to see them in person. You can get on Zoom. You can tell them how to get what they need, whether it's a prescription that you write or if it's something that they can get or go to locally in their own market. But you're going to help them implement this intelligent reverse aging system. And you're going to give them the pieces to do so from start to finish with the biomarkers being stepped
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one that's right and that is that first part of the puzzle so when we come back from this break we will start to fill in the puzzle pieces for you guys again not so much a deep dive but give you that we're going to be painting with a broad strokes to give you kind of that picture the outline and then we'll fill it in over other broadcasts so we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back you're listening to dr scott faulkner and jeremy on 560 klz rush to reason
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Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner and Jeremy filling in for John Rush. John is up in Fort Collins. His son is graduating from the Sheriff's Academy, so he's enjoying this beautiful day. And we really appreciate him giving us this three hours that we can help educate you guys along this journey to better health. So, Jeremy, we were talking about that foundation and kind of that roadmap. So when somebody comes to me for the first time, whether they've been to another doctor or they have a little knowledge or whatever, the first thing that I tell them, and some of them will come in with a couple of labs, right? They say, oh, well, I just saw my doctor and I had annual labs. And it's exactly what we just talked about in the first segment. It might be a CBC, which is a complete medical... Complete blood count. So it checks your white blood cells, see if there's infection, leukemia, lymphoma. Red blood cells, make sure you're not anemic or polycythemic where you have too many. And your platelet count. And it gives you the differential. Then maybe the doctor checked what we call a CMP or a complete metabolic panel. Salt, potassium, kidney, liver, sugar. If you're lucky, they may have thrown a TSH in there if you said, oh, I'm feeling tired or I'm having a hard time losing weight. But they haven't taken a deep dive and checked all the thyroid panels. I can promise you they haven't checked things like insulin or cortisol, things like that. They're not checking to see if you have the MTFR gene mutation. They don't check any of this stuff. That's correct. So what – I did is I followed Mark Hyman's lead. So Mark Hyman, for those of you who do not know, he is a very well-known physician in basically the longevity, regenerative, functional medicine, integrative medicine. We all call ourselves slightly different things. We're all pretty much doing the same thing.
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Yeah, I think it's all kind of morphing into one specific targeted longevity reverse aging play. But each facet of it is a little bit different, and we're trying to pull it all together.
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Exactly. And I like calling myself more of a regenerative doctor. I used to say, yeah, I'm internal medicine and critical care. Well, those days are gone. I haven't been in an ICU since April of last year, and I'll never go back. In fact, Aspen was asking me to come up and cover. And Aspen is beautiful this time of year. And I said, not on your life. I'm doing too much good in my clinic.
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Now your job is to keep people from needing critical care.
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Well, that's exactly it. And I love it. And so when I sit down with somebody and in that 30-minute consultation, it's like, okay, this is my issue with doing just piecemeal. Let's say you came in and said, okay, Dr. Faulkner, I would like to get on a GLP-1 to help me lose 20 or 50 or 100 pounds. And places like Hers or Hims or AgelessRx, they're happy to just mail you something. They don't know you. They didn't talk to you. They don't care about you. They just want your money. Okay? Well, hopefully you guys have learned that I'm not that person. I actually care about you, and I want you to be healthy. But I look at you and say, okay, yes, putting you on a GLP-1, I can do that with my eyes closed. I can get you to drop 20 pounds in the blink of an eye. But what if there's something else going on that's underlying? What if your thyroid is off? What if your insulin is off? You have insulin resistance. What if your cortisol is amiss?
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I would go as far as to say, based on my own experience, there most likely is several things off that they don't know about. And I was riddled with... A lot of stuff that I couldn't believe because I felt air quotes healthy, you know, for my age until I felt a way, way better over time. But yeah, if they're not looking deep and getting with someone like you to discuss it and just pulling the trigger online. Not to mention, there's a lot of bad product out there. Oh, yeah. I was guilty myself a couple of years ago. I ended up getting some semi-glutide salts for cheaper. Out of China, yeah. And it didn't work as well. I got the same side effects, but I wasn't losing the weight. The A1C wasn't coming down. So it was just a cheaper knockoff version that was diluted.
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Yeah, and you're lucky you didn't hose your kidneys.
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Right, right, exactly. And maybe I did. Maybe I fixed them. I don't know, you know, because now I'm under, you know, the correct type of care. But there's a lot of great product out there because when there's a growth space like this and longevity, here come the bad actors that are getting your algorithms on your phone and saying, hey, buy this for me. It's better. It's cheaper.
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Yeah.
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You know, we have, you know, a doctor on staff, but there's no doctor on staff. Right. You know, so it's important to do your due diligence.
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That's right. Yep. And the nice thing is you get me or we're going to bring on a couple of nurse practitioners. So you're going to get somebody who's trained in my style because I'm getting so busy. It's hard for me to to really give great care to everybody that's wanting us. So but that's that first building block or piece of the puzzle is where are you?
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Right. And these biomarkers, we talk about it. I mean, there's there's really five different there's five horsemen. Yeah. A couple of months ago, so there was four. Now there's five. And you're going to learn through those biomarkers and talking with you about the heart, metabolic system, brain, cancer. And the fifth one is the immune system. We did not know that we can prevent autoimmune disease, reverse autoimmune disease and bolster the immune system. I no longer have rheumatoid arthritis as a result of this. So you don't just look at your blood work and say, oh, you need some thyroid meds or maybe we can lose some weight. You're looking at basically all 11 organ systems and all the different ways that they can work. you know, be compromised or you can get attacked by the horsemen in total. Yes. And it's important to have, you know, that medical history and that dialogue with you.
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That's exactly right. It starts there. And, right, I was trained, fortunately, in the old style where you listen to the patient. So just coming in and saying, oh, I need a GLP-1, if that's what somebody wants, then I'm happy to do that and get them to lose weight because I know the benefits that come from that. Right. But it's so much more than that. If you're going to start this journey of well-being mentally, physically, the whole nine yards, then we really need to know where we started from. And that's that biomarkers. And so I've started advertising on John's show that I have recreated Mark Hyman's biomarker panel.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's great for the price, too.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. So Mark Hyman, again, he's that very famous longevity doctor, started off in Canyon Ranch there in Lenox, Massachusetts, about a mile from where my wife grew up. So back in the Gilded Age, the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers and Melons and Kearneys, they had these, well, they called them cottages. The small cottages were 17,000 square feet. It's like being in Newport, Rhode Island. Oh, nice. Yes. And then the income tax came along, and then it killed a lot of wealth in America. Yeah. But those mansions still stand. So a group of investors bought one called Belle Fontaine and turned it into Canyon Ranch. It's a very swanky spa.
SPEAKER 08 :
I've been to the one in Las Vegas. It's the largest I've ever been to. There's like 100 treatment rooms and salt rooms and all kinds of cool stuff.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, well, this isn't that large. I mean, it is big. Don't get me wrong. But it's not to that size. But it was the original Canyon Ranch.
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That this grew from.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, and that's where Mark Hyman came out of. And so he started doing that as longevity for these wealthy New Yorkers that were coming up into the Berkshires of Massachusetts and wanting to get well and healthy. And so then Cleveland Clinic – headhunted Mark Hyman. So now he's over in Cleveland Clinic. But he came up and he beat up Quest Labs, right? Because you got really LabCorp and Quest are the two big lab centers.
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That have coverage all over the country.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's exactly right. So he went to Quest and said, you see all these biomarkers, this 110, I want the lowest price I can possibly get. So that's why online he advertises this for 110 biomarkers for around $500, which is fantastic.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you'd pay $15,000 out of pocket if you walked into a Quest just off the street and said, hey, I want these 106 biomarkers. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
The downside is you don't get Mark Hyman afterwards.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
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So now you have all these biomarkers, and you're like, okay, now what do I do with these? Well, the beautiful thing about with us is not only do we get you the biomarkers, but then you get us afterwards to formulate that plan. One, what's wrong? Two, what do we do about it? Three, is there anything else that we can keep from the other biomarkers from going wonky in the future?
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Building a roadmap, if you will. Approaching the most important stuff first. Mine was the heart, for instance. And then you go further and further down. And before you know it, you're adding on stuff that's going to optimize you once you get everything perfect. Yes. But it's a process. And I think I've redone it in my head. If I knew everything then that I know now, I think from start to finish, it would take about nine to 12 months. And it took me four years.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
But I did it the hard way. Right. Without anybody like yourself to help me. So that's, you know, it's very possible to pretty much have everything that you can imagine and that you can afford within a year. Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
And very quickly, within a few months, we can have you feeling so much better. It puts a pep in your step. That brain fog can start to go away. You're starting to lose weight. You're feeling better. Your relationships are getting better. So that is the first step. Now, there's another add-on to that whole biomarker panel called a glycan age. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you'll hear people out there talking about these chronological versus biological ages and these epigenetic biological age tests, and you're going to get bombarded with them as soon as you say it in front of your phone from all kinds of different places. And I've taken several of them and I've compared them to each other. And the one that really tells sometimes the harshest story, but the most accurate story that I've found is the glycan age test, because it specifically tests inflammatory markers called glycans in different categories and tells you. Let me back up. We now know that inflammation is pretty much the driver of most dangerous diseases. Correct. So you want to limit the inflammation. We've talked about it before. We'll talk about it some more. But this particular test really kind of shoots you right between the eyes with what's going on inflammatory-wise in your body. And my first one wasn't very good a couple, three years ago. It said I was 20-some years older than I am now. The most recent one, 16.4 years younger. So we've shown that if we attack the inflammation, it helps. But that glycan age test, I put ahead of the other epigenetic biological clock tests that are out there. I'm not saying that the other ones are bad and they do different things, but I would start with the glycan age.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, the glycan age. And if we do the 110 biomarkers, there is a calculator that you can get. I have the app on my phone for your biologic age. So now you have the glycan age and you have the calculation based on your biomarkers. You have two data points. It will start to dial you in and open your eyes just how good or bad you are. That's right. And most people are actually pretty bad. But you need to know where you're going by where you're starting from.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So what I've seen, I've listened to a lot of podcasts and roundtables of the experts. It's right around age 35. You know, it's things start to really go wonky and kind of your I mean, some I'm talking about the large most. There's always outliers. Yeah. For the most part. you know, kind of that age 35 to 40 is where like you really need, you know, to get your stuff together. And for me it was around 42, I think now I'm 47. But, um, yeah, for all you that are still in your twenties, enjoy it. But it's, um, the next 10 years is going to come faster than you know it. And that's when, you know, these tests will really start to accelerate your age. If you're, you know, your sleep, your exercise, um, your nutritional biochemistry and your stress is off the rails like most of us are in the working world and how I was too.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. So we've got to take a quick break. So we've given you piece of the puzzle one, which is you need to get your biomarkers done. It's a really good idea to get the glycan H2, but you definitely have to get that 110 biomarker. So that's piece number one. When we come back, we'll give you piece number two. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner and Jeremy, filling in for John Rush, 560 KLC, Health and Wellness Wednesdays.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Welcome back, listeners. So Dr. Scott Faulconer filling in for John. In hour one, we are talking about that roadmap of... What does it look like to get better health? Again, we're not doing a deep dive. Jeremy and I have given you the first piece of the puzzle, which is biomarkers. Now, I'm old enough to know that when we called these things labs, but nowadays it's called biomarkers. And we have a panel similar to Mark Hyman's where we do 110, and we will look under the hood. If there's something wrong, I will find it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, definitely. And as a reminder, too, to the listeners, and oftentimes we forget that there's different listeners, different days, different times. If you go to the KLZ 560 AM website, you go to iHeartRadio, or you go to Apple Podcasts and search Rush to Reason, and you narrow it down, type in Health and Wellness Wednesdays or Dr. Scott Faulkner, You'll find the history, and there's a lot more detail in previous podcasts, and there will be in future too. But if you're like, I don't want to wait until next month on what you guys are talking about today and some of the specifics, go back and listen. And if you're an iPhone user, which I'm not, but most people are, if you go to the Apple podcast versions, you can fast forward through the commercials and kind of take it all in 45 minutes versus an hour for each segment. So that information is out there if you guys want to go there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because a lot of things we did a lot deeper dive. Correct. Like when Reagan was on, we talked about Rehit and VO2 Max. So things that we're not going to get to today, but that information is out there. We'll probably recover it several months down the road. But right now, if you need to, go back and listen to that. But let's keep moving forward. The next step is that body composition. So there's a couple of different ways we can get body composition, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, probably the best way is a DEXA scan if you really want to, you know, really get exactly what's going on. I haven't done that yet, but I use the InBody, which is pretty darn close. And the reason I like the InBody is even though it's not perfect, as long as you use it consistently, like I go in every Thursday morning at 8 o'clock, coffee but no breakfast yet, still fasting, you know, after I, you know, use the bathroom. So it's the same exact thing every single time. And I've been tracking my body composition now for the better part of a year. And it's trending perfectly as far as I trust the system. And it's a part of my lifetime fitness membership, so it's included. I don't go pay to use this thing separately. But a DEXA scan, if you have a means to get them into one, is the best way to go. And you can look at bone health at the same time.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's exactly it. So DEXA is, and a lot of ladies know what a DEXA scan is, dual energy x-ray absorption scan. And it was designed to look to see if somebody has osteoporosis or osteopenia. So we look at your hip, we look at your forearm, and your lumbar spine. And there's a calculation, something called a T-score. A T-score is you at your age compared to 18, 19-year-olds when bones are their strongest. And it gives you your risk of fracture. So back when I was out in Fort Morgan on the planes, I was the osteoporosis guru because there was nobody else out there. I had a DEXA scanner in my office.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no kidding.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. But back then it didn't do body composition. So they're actually two different scans on the same machine.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, so they added the body comp stuff years later.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct. Gotcha. So now this technology is ever-changing. It's super expensive. So I contacted the folks from Health Images there in Castle Rock. And Health Images are all over the place. And you can get it from Simon Med and you can get it from Touchstone, places like that. But, yes, you do need a doctor's prescription, and I'm happy to give it. But – The body composition, the beautiful thing is if you guys have ever seen like a scout x-ray where it shows the outline of your body and when you see how much visceral fat is inside your abdomen. It will change what you're doing. You will put down that donut or that pastry and you're like, oh, really? Is that what I look like inside? So that's the beauty of a body composition on a DEXA scanner as well as telling us through the DEXA, are you at risk for osteoporosis? Because here's the other problem with the medical industrial complex is if you're a lady, remember what I said, your bones were strongest back up to age 23. After 23, it is all downhill. And then once a lady hits menopause and she loses estrogen and that little bit of testosterone that she had, that's when fractures go through the roof. Well, if you didn't build your bones when you were 18, 20, 22, you're screwed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, which is where muscle is important, too, to protect muscles.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. And that's why we're such big proponents on doing weight-bearing exercise to help prevent that. Because the only disease that being obese protects against, the only one, is osteoporosis. Oh, that's interesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
You mentioned visceral fat. And for those that don't know the difference, because I didn't a couple years ago, visceral fat is the bad stuff. It's the stuff that's packed around your organs. Subcutaneous fat is that you kind of grab your love handle and jiggle it. The visceral fat, you know, you need to track and you need to lower it. I was just on the InBody two days ago and there was a trainer bringing a new member in that was interested and her visceral fat was 16. Mine's three.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I think I have a ways to go still. So, you know, know what your visceral fat is via the DEXA scan and listen to us on how to get rid of it because it's very dangerous.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's very dangerous. And it's one of those other pieces to the puzzle that we start with. Um, and the two of them together from health images is not even a hundred bucks. It's like, why wouldn't you do that? And especially as a female, because I'm that proponents, like I'll do a DEXA scan on a 40 year old female. Why? Because I want to know, are you already behind the eight ball? Do you have osteopenia already? Cause it happens. I've seen it. Well, if we see that you have a problem, then we can start to do things to correct it so that you don't have that hip fracture when you're 60.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, exactly. You can build out a game plan, right? And every single human being should be resistance training. We know now that adding muscle is so important for longevity and health span. So in addition to protecting the bones, we could talk for days just about resistance training. but like you need the wake up call, right? Like a lot of people, you know, for whatever reason, you know, kind of fall off and you know, they, they gain some weight and they're going through a tough time in their life, you know, but you need to build in the habits that there's not a week that goes by that you don't resistance train at least twice, if not four times. And it can be very simple stuff that you do in the privacy of your own home. And we'll talk a little bit later too, of how that actually affects impacts and improves your metabolic health also.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right, and probably one of the best guys I've heard talk about is Peter Attia. In fact, he did last week. He had three trainers on talking specifically about this. For those of you who don't know, Peter Attia is another doctor well-known in this space. Now, Peter Attia has a team that helps do all of his research for him. When he says, oh, yeah, I used to see patients, like, dude, you saw one maybe the whole month, so don't give me this garbage that you see patients.
SPEAKER 08 :
But he had to see him to get to this point earlier in his career.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. But he walks the walk, right? He talks the talk and walks the walk.
SPEAKER 08 :
Definitely.
SPEAKER 16 :
My only downside and criticism to Peter Attia is that he is a secular humanist. He thinks that we came from worms and monkeys and apes and stuff like that. Oh, I didn't know that. Yep. So he is – Clearly, his worldview is skewed, but when he's talking to you about resistance training, you can take that to the bank. When we say resistance training, we're talking pumping iron.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, lifting weights. Or even if it's just body weight. Correct. I'd rather put those funds into some of the other stuff we're going to talk about and do the resistance training, you know, for free. Yeah. If I had to pick and choose. Right. Right. But, yeah, you've got to lift weights or use your own body weight to build muscle.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. And that goes into the GLP-1s, right? The semaglutides, turseptides that I do quite a bit of because the muscle mass loss is a real thing. along with the protein. Very much so.
SPEAKER 08 :
I've actually witnessed it myself, some friends and family members. where they went all in on the semaglutide. This was GLP-1 before trisepatide came along, the one that had a lot of side effects and people would get sick from it, particularly females in general that I noticed. And they would lose the weight very quickly, but they would also lose their muscle mass, and they didn't realize that they were just losing weight. Well, then they went off the medicine because they said, well, now that I'm fixed and I'm skinny, I can save the money. Well, then they found out that the weight came back much, much faster than we could have imagined, but the muscle didn't, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you lost both, and you only got the fat back. So keeping the protein up around 70% to 100% in grams to your body weight in pounds. Yeah, ideal body weight. Yeah. For instance, I'm 172 pounds. I take in between 160 and 175 grams of protein daily along with four days of resistance training. And, um, it's been an incredible journey because now I never thought I could get rid of like that last 5% of body fat and I was stuck. And now I'm, you know, 172 pounds, 87 pounds of muscle and 10.2% body fat.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I'm starting to see some definition for the first time since I was 17 years old.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. It's exciting stuff. It is. All right, guys, we've got to take another break. So now there's a couple of more pieces to the puzzle on what does it look like to start this journey? Because I hate to say it, but we could overwhelm you with so much information. We're giving you those baby steps to help do things a little at a time so that you don't feel overwhelmed. But remember, the first one is now that open enrollment is coming up, look at your health insurance. Get one that has an FSA or HSA. Then get your biomarkers along with your body composition, whether it's one of those scales that you can stand on. We have one in the office or a body composition and DEXA scan. And then start putting on muscle mass by lifting weights. So there are several pieces to the puzzle. When we come back, we'll give you another piece. You can listen to Dr. Scott Faulkner for John Rush, 560 KLC.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner and Jeremy filling in for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesday. We're giving you guys the pieces to the jigsaw puzzle. For those who just got in your car and you're heading home, listen to us. We appreciate it. We're trying to get you as healthy as possible, as humanly possible. It's going to cost a little bit of money, so get yourself an FSA or HSA insurance plan. Open enrollment is coming up. And through the break, Charlie and I were talking about it. He said, hey, I heard you in the past talking about cortisol and how important that was. And I'm like, yeah, no doctor ever checks your cortisol. Well, part of this 110 biomarkers is a cortisol, first AM cortisol. And Jeremy, you had a story about your cortisol.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so it was known as the stress hormone, never even thought to have it checked. But for those that don't know, my story is, you know, successful in business, but really 10 years of, you know, pain, bedridden, you know, back pain, fatigue, just felt awful. And then eventually decided to see somebody like, like Dr. Faulkner here and figure out what was going on. And the cortisol levels were like through the roof, like on the chart at the time. And I had some adrenal blowout or adrenal fatigue and realized that I had to basically get those down because it was driving a lot of physiological stress in my body that was accelerating my aging. And there's different types of stress, but knowing what your whole hormone panel, but cortisol in particular, is very important to know for both men and for women.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. So for those of you who don't know, cortisol is a stress hormone. It comes from the adrenal glands that sit on top of your kidneys, and it regulates your blood pressure and your sodium primarily. And so if you get startled because you saw a snake or a spider or something like that, you feel that your heart rate goes up, the epinephrine goes up, cortisol goes up, but then it should settle back down. if your adrenals are functioning well. Now, there's some people that have that adrenal fatigue where they've just been pumping it and pumping it, and now it's like, dude, I'm giving up the ghost. I can't mount a normal response, a cortisol level, so you feel tired. Your blood pressure is low. So a lot of people that are diagnosed with POTS, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, actually have adrenal fatigue is their actually underlying diagnosis, misdiagnosed a lot of times. But in your case, you were living on stress. Your cortisol was high. Right. A little squirt every once in a while when you see a snake, that's God's way of saying run away from the snake. Right, the fight or flight. That's exactly right. But when it's in your system all the time, the damage that it wreaks havoc on all your organ systems, it's insane. And some of those markers that we measure with your stress, C-reactive protein, things like that, inflammation, We'll tell the story. And that's why we do that 110 biomarkers to see where are you at. If we see it, then we tell you how we fix it. That's exactly right. Yeah. And so right now I wanted to segue into another modality that I offer to patients. Now, I don't have this machine in my office. I send people to Simon Med. Again, that's one of those freestanding imaging centers in the Denver metro area. But this particular patient, and hopefully, Rick, you're listening on your way home from the hospital. I'm glad you're doing well. But Rick is one of John's listeners, long time, heard me, oh, I don't know, a month or so ago, and called me up and said, Dr. Faulkner, I like what you say, and I like your style, and I want to come and be your patient. Well, he lives near Steamboat Springs, folks. So I said, love to have you. Come on down. So we sat down. I gave him that free 30-minute consultation. We started talking about everything that was going on. And I said, so what's going on in your life? He says, I'm a business owner, done well for myself, but I'm losing the pep in my step. And that was really his major complaint. And he hadn't been to the doctor in forever. And I said, OK, well, we need to do this, fill in the pieces to the puzzle. We need biomarkers and things like that. I said, you know, you're in your early 60s and I can't tell you if you have heart disease. However, there's a brand new technology because up to a few months ago, I was telling people to get a CT calcium score on their heart. as well as a full-body MRI scan to make sure you don't have cancer or something like that in your head, your neck, your chest, abdomen, pelvis.
SPEAKER 08 :
And a calcium score shows you all the hard calcified plaque that you've built up over the years through coronary artery disease, which all of us have to some degree. But it doesn't show you what you're about to explain, which is the buildup of soft plaque that can break off and cause a heart attack.
SPEAKER 16 :
Atherosclerosis, that's right. And surprising to me when I did more research on the CT calcium score, 30% of people have a zero score. Like I have a zero score. Go on to actually have a cardiac event.
SPEAKER 1 :
30%.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I thought I was doing great with a zero score. Because as you know, my dad died at 45 of a massive heart attack. And I'm like, I don't want any part of that. So I recommended this to Rick. And so he came back and we had all the biomarkers and we laid out a plan to get him to start losing some weight, start to exercise, start and fix all those things that he had kind of neglected. It's like doing an overhaul on your car, right? If you neglect the shocks and you forget to change the oil and your transmission is getting a little loose. So we came up with a plan. And I asked him, okay, did you do this CT scan with Clearly? And Clearly is the AI program that actually can tell us if there's this soft black where we could never tell before.
SPEAKER 08 :
They can look in the individual coronary arteries that branch out from the heart.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and these pictures are gorgeous. So remember in the olden days, up three months ago, we used to have to have the cardiologist fish a wire in your wrist. It used to be your groin, but now your wrist. Fish this wire up to your heart, squirt some dye, where they could actually look at what is going on in the arteries. Is there blockage or not? That's a CT angiogram. CT angiogram. So when your regular doc in the box does your cholesterol panel, first and foremost, he'll check your LDL, right? Low density lipoprotein. Well, there's fluffy LDL and then there's the dense LDL. Yeah, I call them beach balls and golf balls. That's exactly right. And you've mentioned that in the past. So people don't even know that. And if your doc in the box looks at your LDL cholesterol and says, oh, well, it's 130. You need a statin. you should say thank you very much, back away to the door slowly, and then run when you're out the door to somebody like myself. Because the LDL is actually a horrible predictor of heart disease. The things that are more important are things like apoprotein B, lipoprotein A, The really bad particles. That's right. And on that biomarker panel, we actually fractionate it. We check these, and we tell you how much of the bad LDL versus the good LDL do you have, how much of your HDL, your good cholesterol. So we get more data. But even then, it still markers, but it doesn't tell the whole story.
SPEAKER 08 :
Until you look at it.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. And so in Rick's case, he went to his credit and got this scan. And about six days later in my inbox, I get this CTA with clearly alert. So I open it up and instantly my eyes went to his right coronary artery. The man was 98% occluded in his right coronary artery. and 88% in his left anterior descending artery.
SPEAKER 08 :
The one right next to the left main?
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct. So for those of you who don't know, the left main is the one that comes off the aorta, and that's the widowmaker. Because when that goes, it not only supplies the left anterior descending, but the left circumflex, your obtuse marginal, basically the entire left side of your heart. That's what happened to my dad. That's why he was dead instantly. The right coronary supplies what we call the inferior wall. Now, you never want to have a heart attack, but if you're going to have one, that's the side to have it on. But you will never climb a mountain again. You'll be weak and exhausted and huff and puff. Your life will never be the same again. So when I saw that, my very first call was to the cardiologist, my friend. The second one was to Rick. I said, do not exert yourself. Start taking an aspirin. You need to go see my friend. Well, the cardiologists don't believe this because this is brand new technology. So they're used to, you know, like poo-pooing things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And they're like, yeah, okay, well, we'll take a look and see.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they look at the data and they go, oh, goodness, how come this didn't cross my desk sooner?
SPEAKER 16 :
And so that's exactly what happened. He actually went and they did an angiogram, right, old-fashioned way with a – wire up his wrist, up to his heart, squirted dyes. And he said within a few seconds, the cardiologist said, oh my gosh, it was accurate.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm actually amazed that they had to go back and do it the old way, even though they had irrefutable evidence given to you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, in all honesty, that probably was the right step.
SPEAKER 08 :
Better safe than sorry to go through all the different ways.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, correct, because if it wasn't quite this bad, they could have done an angioplasty called PTCA, where they balloon open the artery and then put in a stent. But in this case, Rick ended up getting triple bypass. He was that bad.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 16 :
But he never had a heart attack. That's exactly right. So he will be able to live. And see his kids, his grandkids. That's exactly right. And run his business. Walk up that wall. That's why we do what we do. So I hear the music. This is Dr. Scott Faulkner. Hour one is in the can. Jeremy and I will be back for hour two. And keep giving you the pieces of the puzzle. Don't go away.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
welcome to seculo we've got big news today as it was revealed by chairman grassley who was given documents by the fbi that show that the special counsel jack smith was spying on u.s senators there were eight u.s senators and one u.s congressman all republicans no surprise there but had gotten all their phone records from a certain period of time. And we're going to get into all that. We've got a jam-packed show today. We have Jordan Sekulow in studio with me. Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ, will be joining us in the next segment. And then Senator Bill Hagerty from Tennessee, who was one of the targets. of jack smith spying will be joining us later in the broadcast so make sure you share this broadcast you click like on this broadcast we want as many people to see this because it is breathtaking what the fbi and jack smith were doing under the biden administration but before we get to that i also want to point out today marks the two-year memorial of the october 7th attacks by hamas on the people of Israel. And that war is still going on. We talked yesterday about the hope that we maybe have for some sort of resolution with this plan that President Trump put forward. And I'm sure we'll be getting into that later in the week. But we can't forget the savagery that was unleashed on innocent people in Israel two years ago today. And so as you go throughout your day, remember what Israel is fighting for. They are fighting for their survival because Hamas attempted a genocide that day against the Jewish people and they killed innocent men, women, and children. only because they were Jewish, only because they were Israeli. So we aren't going to spend a ton of time on that today, Jordan, but we need to remind people that that war is still going on and we do not want to forget that on this day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that war is still going on. Israelis are still being killed. Hamas is still active, though not as active as it once was. And the Palestinian people have a peace plan on the table backed by the Arab Muslim world. So that would benefit all Palestinians, including Palestinian Muslims, Palestinian Christians. It would be life-changing. And Hamas has accepted most of those terms. Now, it's Hamas. We know. We're not naive here. Hamas accepting terms kind of gets you 25% of the way there at best because they didn't outright just reject it. But it's 75% of the way to see if they actually will go along with the rest of this plan. But what is great about this plan, just two years later, is that it is not Israel who will have to ultimately secure the Gaza Strip and rid it of the remnants of Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and other terror groups, but it will be a joint coalition of Arab nations who will replace Israel At a certain time, based on the agreement, Israel will pull out of the Gaza Strip. They will work with that joint group. But then ultimately, it will be Arab Muslims predominantly policing and securing other Arab Muslims. So you can't say this is Israel occupying the Gaza Strip or Israel killing Palestinians. I'm sure there will be violence. because it will be a military force that is set up. But it will be a military force of those who want to protect the innocents inside places like the Gaza Strip, those that we've represented before. And so again, just two years later, never forget the memories, And the people who were lost on October 7th and those hostages whose bodies haven't been returned to their families and those hostages who are still living under torment today. That they are hopefully, we pray, one step closer to being released.
SPEAKER 09 :
And when we get back, Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ, will be joining us to talk about this. This is shocking, folks. In some ways, it's not shocking, though, because of who the perpetrators of this were. But we also will be playing sound from the attorney general who was before the Senate, before many of those people that were spied on by Jack Smith. And we'll get to that later in the broadcast as well. Go ahead and share this broadcast and support us at ACLJ.org. Back to Sekulow. Will Haynes here. Jordan Sekulow in studio with me. And we have Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice on the line. We're talking about this Operation Arctic Frost, the investigation by the FBI, which predated Jack Smith, but then Jack Smith took over when he became the special counsel. And this shocking revelation that that was released through Senator Grassley, Chairman Grassley, and by the FBI as they've been looking into these investigations that happened under the previous administration. And what we find out is that the FBI targeted eight U.S. Senators and one member of the House of Representatives by requesting over two years after The phone records, they call it toll data, which would be the locations, the durations of calls, and who the senator was calling from their cell phones. to get information as a part of this Arctic Frost investigation that Jack Smith was heading up as special counsel. I want to go right now to Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow. And just right off the bat, when this news came out yesterday, what was your first reaction when you heard what the special counsel was doing in targeting these U.S. senators?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, listen, I think this is, you talk about an outrage. I mean, I want everybody to put this into a context. Could you imagine if it was a different situation and it was the Department of Justice under President Trump spying on six Democratic senators, what the reaction would be? I mean, let's just think about that for a moment. Now take a step back. Why in the world did Jack Smith try to get the records, phone records, of a co-equal branch of government Six or five senators and a member of the House of Representatives. For what purpose? Now, he targets this around the January 6th time because he was concerned that maybe these senators were ones that voted, were going to vote not to certify. Let's assume that was true just for the sake of argument. You know what the answer to that is? So what? You're the special counsel. You're not the, you know, the governor of the elections. and a sitting u.s senator can vote any way they want they're elected and if you don't like the way they vote you vote for somebody else but this action by jack smith i think just typifies what was going on with the weaponization of the department of justice and i'll tell you who needs to be held accountable here jack smith and we i asked our team yesterday to start a process of We'll start with a FOIA, Free Remembrance Act request to find out exactly whose idea Arctic Cross was and what they were up to. But this should be sending shockwaves to members of Congress, Republican and Democrats, that a special counsel was going after them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, Dad, what's also not shocking about this but illuminating is that what's redacted from the memo that was given to Chairman Grassley, of course, was the special agents at the FBI who signed off on this program, who signed off on this investigation to Jack Smith's team. But I want you to walk through this. This means that Jack Smith's team went to a court To get a warrant so they could obtain this data from phone companies. And then you look at constitutional protections that we all have, including U.S. senators, like the Fourth Amendment. I mean, what? That there were probable cause that they were engaged in a crime?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, look, I mean, not just the Fourth Amendment. I mean, the Fourth Amendment certainly is one of them. But, you know, the speech and debate costs. of the Constitution protects members in their official act, even if you disagree with their vote. But I mean, Jordan, you bring up a great point. This idea that you have a situation where, just think about this more, the Department of Justice lawyers point to a judge and say, we need these records. Now, was it a FISA judge? Was it a district court judge? Don't know the details of that yet. But the point of the matter is, why are we shocked? This is the same Department of Justice at the time that went into the FISA court and falsified emails to get a warrant, signed off on, by the way, agreed to by James Comey and Andrew McCabe and others. So this is just part and parcel of a much, much deeper problem.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and when you also look at the timeline of how this investigation even unfolded, where, you know, the Department of Justice under Joe Biden didn't do anything for the first almost year and a half until they launched this Arctic frost, but only April of 2022. And then they didn't appoint Jack Smith until November of 2022, right before the election season started to really get underway as you start to look at primaries and things of that nature. And then President Trump was indicted June 8th of 2023. right ahead of the election. These records weren't requested by Jack Smith and his team until September 27th of 2023, just under a year from an election. And you start to wonder, When it's only Republican senators being targeted, obviously with the nature of that, that you would expect that that is what would happen because it was a politically motivated investigation. But you start to really question even more election interference when not only are you going after the person running for president, but also members of Congress that are against the party that was in power at the time. It raises a lot of questions about what the political motivations were.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, let me know what the political motivations were. I mean, let's be realistic. This whole scam was put on the American people. We paid for this. Our taxpayer dollars paid for all this. And what was the end result? The end result appears to be six senators had their phone records subpoenaed by a special counsel to find out who they were talking to. I mean, you know, who they were talking to. I mean, think about this for a moment. These are the people you elected. And if you've got now a Department of Justice that had a special counsel's office set up. By the way, Jack Smith could have said, we're not going to use that information. We're not going to continue this. We're not going to look at this. That's not the point. The point is they did. And the point is they did this. I mean, the thing that has to be underscored here, this wasn't some thought maybe we should do this. They actually did this. But it's no different. I go back to the IRS Tea Party scandal. Remember that one we litigated for several years, had a great victory in? Look at the targeting there. Remember those emails between Lois Lerner and some of the others where they said things like, hey, if we can bring one criminal case, we can shut all this down. Maybe we can get DOJ to chill this down. I mean, this was the way in which they were operating. And I think, look, what's happening now is it's coming to light because there's new leadership in the Department of Justice, great leadership under Pam Bondi. And we're going to find out. But unfortunately, there's going to be more of this. That's the thing I really hate. There's going to be more of this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, what's also interesting here is not only do we kind of already expect this kind of behavior out of the FBI during this time period, but the judges, federal judges who are an independent branch of government, dad, were rubber stamping this for them. Rubber stamping, tracking data, who senators are talking to, where they're located. Just give us names and we'll give you the warrant to get the information.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, I'd like to know what in the world these judges were thinking, like you said, that they would think it was appropriate to get phone records and information from phone companies on members of the United States Senate, some of which who serve on very significant committees. And then the judges thought that was okay too. But look, if you look at the, I'll never forget this, the lawyer that mishandled and then changed an email and filed a false document with the court. The FISA court ends up getting suspended from the practice of law for six months, and he's back to practicing law now. It's outrageous. And it's just, we're now going to get to this. We said you got to have patience, and we've instructed our team to start the work to get to the bottom. We're going to get to the bottom of Operation Arctic Frost. We're going to thaw it out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Folks, we want to take your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110. One of the senators who was targeted here, Senator Bill Hagerty of Tennessee, will be joining us live in the midst of all of the shutdown talks and negotiations going on in Washington, D.C. as his name gets splashed around in this and comes about. So we'll talk to him about that in the second half hour. But we have time to take your calls at 1-800-684-3110 in this first half hour and in the second half hour of the broadcast. So give us a call. Because, Dad, I mean, I ended on this. I mean... Listen, if this can happen to a U.S. Senator and a federal judge will rubber stamp this, you, me, anybody listening or watching this show and podcast, however they're getting this information from us today, then they wouldn't even pause to give a warrant to the FBI for their information for ours.
SPEAKER 05 :
100%. That's a chilling effect of all of this. And that's why I think what we need to do now that it's been uncovered is now we go to work. That's why the support that our members and our ACLJ champions give the ACLJ is so significant. We need to encourage to do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, absolutely. And folks, we encourage you to do that today at ACLJ.org. If you're not already a monthly supporter of the ACLJ, join the fight. and become an ACLJ champion at aclj.org slash champions. It is a great day. As you said, I was already talking about this with my dad last night about how ACLJ can get involved and the multiple ways we can get involved to uncover this because usually when you get this information, it's just the beginning. And this is yet another investigation that we need to peel back the layers of the onion on. Go to ACLJ.org, support our work financially. This isn't easy work. It isn't one person who can do this. It requires teams of experts, both attorneys and government affairs, to put this together, to work with those senators, to work with, to make sure we're filing the right documents to get the correct information as quickly as possible. So go to ACLJ.org, support our work today. And if you can become one of those champions, those monthly donors, pick an amount that's comfortable for you. Go to ACLJ.org slash champions. And if you call into the broadcast at 1-800-684-3110, let us know if you're a champion and we'll move you to the front of the line.
SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to Seculo. We are still going over this information that came out yesterday. It was released by Chairman Grassley of the Senate Oversight Committee, as well as by the FBI, who gave the document to Senator Grassley and then also simultaneously released it. This comes at a time where we know the FBI is looking at a lot of the activity under the previous leadership of the FBI, under Christopher Wray, as well as what the Department of Justice was doing with special counsels and things of that nature when it comes to politically motivated investigations and who they were going after. And the saddest part about this is that none of these things are shocking in the way that they should be. They're shocking because it should never happen in America again. But you sit there and go, well, of course they were doing this. Of course they were getting the phone records of sitting senators because their respect for the rule of law did not exist. And we saw that with every policy of the Biden administration, whether it be the border or the way they handled free speech rights when it comes to people protesting abortion and standing up for life, or if it came to The protections of the Constitution for sitting U.S. senators, including the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, who has oversight of the very department that was investigating him. So let's go ahead and listen to what Senator Graham had to say, because Attorney General Pam Bondi today is before the Senate. A normally scheduled hearing where the oversight of Congress takes place and the Attorney General answers to activities that they've been under. But Senator Grant ties this also with the Comey indictment because of all the outrage on the left saying, how dare you go after James Comey and indict him when he broke the law. But let's go ahead and play bite seven for folks. That was this morning, just an hour or so ago, when he is questioning Attorney General Bondi.
SPEAKER 01 :
Why are we looking at Comey? Because he ran an FBI and personally knew about its sculptor information and let it slide. How in the can two FBI agents interview a man who says the document you're using against a sitting president to suggest he may be a Russian agent or Carter Page that is now no longer reliable, how does that not get to the court? Can you tell me how that doesn't get to the court? You can't, can you? I can't, Senator, and I can't... Can you tell me why my phone records, when I'm the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, were sought by the Jack Smith Agents, why did they ask to know who I called and what I was doing from January 4th to the 7th? Can you tell me that?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, Senator, and there were eight senators in total.
SPEAKER 01 :
Do you think that was an abuse of power?
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator, I cannot discuss whether there is or is not an ongoing investigation. If I may add one thing, they also wasted $50 million on what you just described, trying to put President Trump in jail prior to the election.
SPEAKER 09 :
So right there, we hear someone very upset, rightfully so, Senator Graham, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, at the time that all this went down, asking the current Attorney General about this situation. And I think we should list the other senators as well. This is Senator Lindsey Graham, Senator Bill Hagerty from Tennessee, Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri. We have Tommy Tuberville, Senator from Alabama, Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, Senator Cynthia Loomis from... from uh from wyoming senator marcia blackburn from tennessee we have the congressman mike kelly from pennsylvania and then we have dan sullivan the senator from alaska as well on this list so across the united states eight senators uh most of them very conservative some you probably actually never you don't hear a lot about. Like Dan Sullivan or Cynthia Loomis aren't the ones that you're always seeing in the headlines. But Jordan, clearly the senators are not pleased with what they found out.
SPEAKER 07 :
And from their perspective, I know we were going back and forth on the document on whether or not this was a warrant issued by a judge? Was it issued by a grand jury that a judge would just kind of oversee? And the senators in their statement, the senators who were targeted, do believe it was from a grand jury, that it was from one of the grand juries, I guess the D.C. grand jury that was impaneled likely by Jack Smith, so that he went to the grand jury to then ask to be able to go to the telephone companies to get this information on these senators. But as you heard from Pam Bondi, of course, as an attorney general, as a part of the Department of Justice, she can't confirm or deny if there's investigations ongoing. I can't imagine if you were a betting person that an investigation is not ongoing. It might have just started very soon, just recently, because to my knowledge, this was unknown. Right. No one was talking about, hey, this might come out. Even people who usually have access to this kind of information were saying, yeah, I think they were also spying on a group of senators as well. I mean, maybe some people said that generically, but honestly, if you were going to then give me the list of those senators... This is not the list I would have expected. I mean, a couple of these names on here are some of the louder voices. Some of the names on here are not. And as my dad said, the idea is this was going to be about whether or not they voted to certify an election, which they are elected by their constituents to cast that vote on. And what does Jack Smith have to do? What does that have to do with voting? January 6th, what does that have to do with the Jack Smith investigation? What does that have to do with any potential illegal conduct? It doesn't. It's protected so many different ways in the Constitution. And it should just, again, it's something that should never happen in the United States. It's harder and harder for law enforcement to get away with. Maybe it's easier for them at the time because the data is more accessible. You go to the grand jury, you can grab the data easier. But long term... It's hard to bury this because these documents, because of the partisan nature of our political system, you come to light and people realize, whoa, the previous FBI was spying on me. And they were spying on senators who happened to vote different ways, by the way, on certifications. It's not like this group of eight senators voted exactly the same on certification. In fact, they didn't.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, in Jordan, what's going to be even more absurd is the data they got. would tell them who they talked to, where they were, and the length of their phone calls. So just that in and of itself, it's not like they're going to all of a sudden discover that these senators were talking to like a drug cartel, right? You know, like, oh, we have this nexus between a criminal element. The reality is they were probably talking to their colleagues and the president of the United States.
SPEAKER 07 :
So all of a sudden they wanted to talk to as as not only elected officials, but as United States citizens who have done nothing wrong. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so that in and of itself, the presupposition by the special counsel and the FBI here. was that this data, being able to show that they talked to their colleagues or to the president or things of that nature, would help us prove a case against either Donald Trump or even maybe those senators themselves if they were the target of an investigation. That's where it gets so absurd and why this can never happen again. Because that is already... So authoritarian. And I know that that word likes to get thrown around, but when you're using law enforcement in the United States and a special counsel at that with unlimited budget, nominal oversight at that point, being able to go after sitting senators and things like that years after this event, ahead of a new election, it's shocking because that is the only goal can be trying to silence or get someone out of office or put them in jail. Those are the three options that the special counsel was targeting you.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, they have to have some kind of reasoning that they put forward to that grand jury about why they needed this information in the investigation of, in their mind, what was criminal conduct. We believe the whole thing was bogus, but they had to at least have something bogus to put forward. 1-800-684-3110. I want to take your calls, your comments, your questions. How do you feel about this? What do you think needs to happen at the FBI? 1-800-684-3110.
SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haines here and joined in studio by Jordan Sekulow. And in the next segment, we're going to have one of those senators, which was a target of the Jack Smith investigation and the FBI and whose records were... received and gotten by the fbi under this arctic frost investigation we're going to have to hear what he thinks about all this that'll be senator bill hagerty from tennessee joining us in the next segment but jordan i mean once again as we go through this and we were talking during the break you're looking at these things and one I thought it was very telling that Attorney General Pam Bondi was very careful which is great when Senator Graham asked her do you think this was an abuse of power which seems like an opinion question you can pontificate about but she stops it and says Senator I cannot discuss whether there is or is not an ongoing investigation.
SPEAKER 07 :
She already answered that question with if there's abuse of power the Department of Justice would be looking into it, and they can't confirm those in public hearings to those senators. So, again, that was her immediate response to me. Again, it doesn't tell anything 100%, but like you said, if there wasn't one started yet, Your answer could be, it appears that way, and that's why we believe we're going to start preliminary investigating this to decide if it needs to go further. And then you would use answers like that in the future, if the investigation actually did begin later. To me, it sounds like the moment they knew this information existed, which may be the moment that Senator Grassley got the letter sent to them or around the same time that Kash Patel delivered this, that investigation was likely opened into this specific part of Jack Smith's investigation, which is what on earth was he doing and his team and the FBI? So you've got DOJ, you've got special counsel, and you've got FBI special agents and their advisory agents okaying going into a grand jury and asking for this data on U.S. senators' cell phone calls.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, I think we should play this clip from Senator Hawley this morning in the same hearing with Attorney General Bondi. Remind you, he's on the list too. He is on the list. He is one of these senators that was spied on by the government. So let's hear what he has to talk about as well as, once again, asking about the investigation and the way that the Attorney General, I think, appropriately answers the question by 17.
SPEAKER 06 :
We've got a list. Tap my phone, tap Lindsey Graham's phone, tap Marsha Blackburn's phone, tap five other phones of United States senators. Gee, it sure looks like targeting political opponents to me, and yet I haven't heard a word from that side of the dais about any concern whatsoever. We've got nothing but concerns today, but no concern at all for a Justice Department that is tapping the phones of sitting United States Senators because who knows why? They don't like them. They're members of the opposition party. They're Republicans. They're conservatives. You've seen this document, Attorney General Bondi. What was going on here? Who ordered this? Who ordered the tapping of the phones of United States senators?
SPEAKER 03 :
Senator Hawley, I cannot discuss the details of that right now for very good reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're going to do a thorough investigation into this, I trust. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 03 :
We will be looking at all aspects of this, and I have talked to Director Patel at length about this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Once again, Jordan, it's refreshing to not have Merrick Garland up there trying to answer these questions. Naturally, the Democrats would be covering for him as well if this was to arise.
SPEAKER 07 :
She went a little further there. It's being investigated. Is it a criminal investigation yet? We don't know. It's likely not at that point yet, but if the department of justice is leading an investigation of conduct by a special counsel appointed through the doj who utilized doj officials and the fbi it's certainly and it was a criminal investigation then if there was wrongdoing there it would be criminal conduct i mean listen this is very serious and again to underscore the importance of fighting back here is not just just to protect the senator's constitutional rights but all of our constitutional rights because if it's this easy to get their information how easy is it to tap your phone support the work of the aclj we have this information now that we can go we can use for foia in other ways don't want to give that all away on the air but support the work of the aclj at aclj.org not just to protect the senators to protect you aclj.org donate today
SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haynes and Jordan Sekulow in studio here today. And we are joined by the senator from Tennessee, Bill Hagerty, who was a part of this targeting by Jack Smith and the FBI. And Jordan, I want to toss it over to you as we get right into this with the senator.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Senator Hagerty, I just want to get first your reaction when you found out that you were part of these eight senators and one member of Congress, all Republicans, who were targeted by Jack Smith through what appears to be a grand jury that decided that it would be okay for his agents to tap your phones. They call it tolling, which is your location, the duration, and who you were talking to. So what is the other phone number? Your reaction when this news first was released?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Jordan, initially I was shocked and then heartbroken. I mean, if you think about it, if political operatives at the FBI are allowed to do this to me, I'm a sitting United States senator. I was the U.S. ambassador to Japan. If they can do this to me, they can do it to you. They can do it to the American people. If they're so bold to think that they could get away with doing this, having the executive branch law enforcement agency reach over into the legislative branch and come after sitting senators that have oversight responsibilities for them, It is just beyond the pale, and it makes you ask yourself, what else have they gotten away with? If they're that bold, what else did they try to do? We're just getting to the tip of the iceberg here with this revelation, and we need to get to the bottom of it as quickly as possible. I want to see people prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, not only because I want to do that to dissuade others from doing this in the future, But I think it's critical, Jordan, to restore confidence in institutions like the FBI. The rank and file of the FBI, look at what they're doing in Memphis. They're doing yeoman's work. But you have leadership that is corrupt like this, like this Jack Smith they brought in, Merrick Garland, who supported it, Christopher Wray. I mean, you have to ask yourself about Christopher Wray, Jordan. If he did know, clearly an abuse of power. If he didn't know, it's a dereliction of duty. This is rotten to the core. And now we've got eight United States senators that are on top of this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I mean, you look at the constitutional violations, one, specific protections that do exist just for those federally elected officials like you, Article 1, Section 6, the Speech and Debate Clause, also the Fourth Amendment, the fact that to get a grand jury warrant, they would have to say that this was somehow connected to a criminal act, that these phone calls would somehow help them. determine whether a probable cause exists that other crimes were committed i mean all of this just reeks and of course they go into likely a grand jury in washington dc and and they just get rubber stamps to uh to track your phones and like you said senator hagerty i i can't believe this is the end of this i i really believe this is just the beginning
SPEAKER 04 :
You're exactly right, Jordan. I tell you, as you ran through the constitutional implications, it just made me thankful that I have a friend like you that is such a great constitutional scholar. I know where to go for help on this, and we're going to need a lot of help to get to the bottom of the constitutional violations and the criminal activity. If you think about where this could lead, this is something that's going to have to be blown wide open. And again, we've got to do this for the sake of confidence in the institutions like the FBI. But we've also got to make certain that this type of thing never happens again. And I'll just reiterate some of the things that the Biden FBI has done to the American public. And when you take all this into perspective, you've got to ask yourself, you know, what has happened? What has gone wrong when the FBI can basically sick their agents on parents who go to school board meetings and actually speak out about their concerns about graphic material that's being presented? Or even worse, you know, school officials that are, quote, transitioning their children without letting the parents know. They complain about this, they get surveilled. Do you think what they did right in Tennessee, in my home state, your home state, The pro-life individuals that were in the vicinity of an abortion clinic, they were prosecuted. They were as peaceful of protesters as you could imagine, prosecuted. If you think about the raid on Mar-a-Lago, that was an absolute disgrace. Democrats didn't blink an eye. They even targeted Catholics in America for the way they worship and their beliefs. It just goes on and on, and you've got to ask yourself, where does it stop? But if they were bold enough to come after me, again, a sitting senator, a former U.S. ambassador to Japan, they're bold enough to come after me, they're bold enough to come after seven of my Senate colleagues here and a congressman, then who knows what they've done. And we're going to have to get as deep into this as we personally can and hold these people accountable.
SPEAKER 09 :
Senator, we also know that one, the Attorney General this morning was being questioned by your colleagues in the Judiciary Committee that were asking questions much about this. But I know this just came out last night. There's a lot of people still processing it, including we here at the ACLJ. It appears that the FBI and the Department of Justice currently are taking this seriously and looking at steps to remedy this and see what potential punishments can come from this as well. But I was curious if you and your colleagues have discussed about anything on the oversight side of the Senate in looking into this as well to hold this accountable and get more information out to the American people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we just got the news last night. We huddled afterwards. I spoke with Chuck Grassley, who's the chairman of the Oversight Committee. He's running the oversight on this. Ron Johnson has been working with him, told him that I'm there with him every step of the way from this point forward. I have no idea that this type of abuse was occurring at this level. I think we all knew. I just went through the litany of examples that the FBI has run amok, that the Biden administration completely weaponized law enforcement here. But they were willing to go to this extent. makes me think that this is something that is much, much larger than we ever imagined in the first place. But if you go back to the basics, this started under Barack Obama. You may recall, I was one of President Trump's finance chairman when he was a candidate back in 2016. I moved into Trump Tower the day after the election to help him with the transition. I was surveilled then by the FBI under this false Russia hoax operation. And that happened from that was the Obama administration and Comey. And then you roll forward under the Biden administration. It just got 10 times worse with with all of the things that they did to basically try to take out Joe Biden's number one political opponent. That was Donald Trump. They weaponized the legal system across America. They brought charges that were absolutely ridiculous and unfounded. They cost people their jobs. They cost people their livelihoods and careers. They did it to Michael Flynn. They did it, you know, in the previous administration and in the first Trump 45 term, Michael's office was three doors down from me in Trump Tower when we were doing the transition. And, you know, they surveilled him and they took him out, threatening to break him financially, going after his son. You think about what they did to Peter Navarro. Peter, you know, basically just invoked executive privilege and they decided that they're going to jail him. They did. Peter is a tough guy. He's a great guy. He survived it, but they put him in jail for months. Now, Peter's back, and I think he's going to be very interested in getting to the bottom of this as well. This weaponization is damaging our nation. The Democrats, again, accuse us, accuse Republicans and accuse Donald Trump of being a threat to democracy. They're simply projecting exactly what they are doing and what they have been doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Senator Haggerty, I know that this is just the beginning when it comes to investigating this matter. I remember the 2016 issue. And again, at that point in time, you were working as a private citizen to assist the transition, knowing that your phone were being tapped. And then you go, you know, flash forward again, you've been ambassador, then you become a Phone gets tapped again by the same law enforcement division that we all believe is overly politicized. So there's a lot more here. This is just the one and a half pages that we've gotten so far. But I do want to ask you before you go, because I know our audience cares about this, the Schumer shutdown talks and negotiations, where do you see things stand as of today?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, right now I think Schumer is evaluating his own political status in New York State. At its very core, this is raw politics in action. If you were to poll today, and we have, if you poll New York State, AOC defeats Chuck Schumer in a Democrat primary. He can't have that. And he won't give AOC the talking point that he, quote, took a knee to Trump, that he caved to Trump. So he's showing that he can fight. He doesn't know what he's fighting for. They can't articulate that. This $1.5 trillion ransom to keep the government open for a few weeks is just absolutely preposterous. But he's going on TV, showing his spite, and I think this really gets down to his political survival. This is Chuck Schumer proving his political manhood in New York State, and he's willing to do it at the cost of $400 million per day to the U.S. taxpayers who are already in single-digit billions of dollars while he's doing his political stunt. Americans suffer. And the longer this goes, the suffering is going to get much, much worse.
SPEAKER 07 :
Senator Haggard, we so appreciate you spending the time with us to talk about one of this news that just broke last night that involves you directly, the tapping of your phone during this Jack Smith investigation, and seven of your Senate colleagues and other House members, as well as the shutdown. We will stay on this. ACLJ is going to get on this too. Senator, we appreciate you joining us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you so much, Stuart, and always good to be with you.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, folks, again, that's why we try to... It's a different kind of broadcast. It's a different kind of show and analysis you're getting here because these are people we work with regularly. So when times are, you know, when we're talking kind of normal, if there is normal Washington, D.C. policy and issues, and then when times are more than bizarre, when our Constitution has been trampled on, and they can lead a charge... us alongside them and the ACLJ to protect, as Senator Hagerty said, all of us. All of us. And we've got to do that. Because if it's so easy to get this information on a U.S. Senator, how easy is it to get the information on a private citizen? Support the work of the ACLJ. We need your financial contributions. To do this work, there are costs. And you know that if we've represented you before or one of your friends before, there's no cost to them. And we do that because of your financial support of the ACLJ. If you can, become a monthly donor at champion at aclj.org. Donate today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to Seculo, final segment of the broadcast. If you want to talk to us on air, 1-800-684-3110. We've got an ACLJ champion we'll be getting to in just a moment. But a couple updates that I want to bring to you before we get into this. One, if you were watching and saw that video in the break, if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble or Salem News Channel or any of those places, we talked about a case that we talked about yesterday, which was where a student in Minnesota wanted to have a Bible club at her school, ninth grader, and the administration uh told her effectively you can have this club here but you have to rent the facility because we think you're a church not a student club if you're the boy scouts or the 4-h club any other of the clubs that we have here they don't have to pay but you do classic viewpoint discrimination only because you're a christian we're charging you money uh the school got back to the ACLJ today, as was their deadline to avoid a federal lawsuit. And they have sent a letter stating that the student can now have the classroom for free for her Bible study, as is constitutional, since they allow clubs at the school. So a good victory for this student. Sometimes you want to have to get in a federal court and go after these schools, but I'm happy for the student that this resolution that she will be able to have her Bible study and not have to go through that litigation process.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's also a great example of why you contact the ACLJ because oftentimes you may think, you know what? I don't like what was done to me here. It feels wrong. It feels like it was because I'm a Christian or because of my religious views or because of my political views. But it's not that big of a deal. We can move along with life. And you realize that that kind of thinking prevents then how many students there from potentially – joining that Bible club? How many lives could be changed? And if the school is going to be open to other clubs, then they have to be open to that Bible club. And the school comes back with, okay, okay, fine. But just like when a church maybe uses our facilities on the weekends, if we allow that at our school or some other group, we're going to charge you building use. cost because we think this is a church now this was sponsored by a student like every club during the club times that were posted on campus like the school had and it took us just reminding them about the actual law So you didn't have to go to federal court. You didn't have to take those steps. We could have, we're always ready to, but I just want to underscore why it's important if you think that is happening to you to go to aclj.org slash help and contact us and let our attorneys review it. Let them contact you back if they think they need more information. on that or if you have heard about it from a friend think it's happened to them have them contact us directly at aclj.org slash help nothing is too small and none of these rights should be trampled because if you allow them to continually be trampled These rights, they don't exist. They stop to exist. They cease existing because one school district says, oh, we could do it this way. Another school district says we could do it this way. And the people at those school districts think that's the norm. Well, that's how they're going to treat us as religious groups. So we'll put the money together if we think it's that important. No. No, that's not how the law works. And once they read our interpretation of clearly what the law is and Supreme Court precedent on top of that... Which the ACLJ won those cases, were the ones that argued and won at the Supreme Court. Quickly... Within less than 24 hours of talking about it on this show yesterday, school district writes, okay, never mind. Nothing to see here. You can have your club just like everyone else. That is why you contact us. It's a great example of why you contact the ACLJ. It doesn't always have to be these huge kind of issues that you're going to read about on the front page, eight senators phone tapped. We're going to be involved in that. You can hear from Senator Haggerty. That's wonderful and great. But how the ACLJ started and our core work is representing you. And it's representing the students. It's representing your students. Maybe it's one of your kids who has got these situations. And that is where, again, the majority of the resources go at the ACLJ is to representing those who would not usually go and hire attorneys to fight this out for them. They can go to the ACLJ and have it... handled by experts in the constitution experts in religious liberty experts in free speech experts in what can happen in public schools at no cost to them thank you thankfully because of all of our donors All those of you who donate to ACLJ.org. You might be a person who donates once a year. That's great. You might be one of those ACLJ champions or you're thinking about becoming an ACLJ champion. Someone who says, you know what? I can give $50 a month. I can give $100 a month to the ACLJ annually and I can just sign up and click the button and I don't have to think about it again and I know my support is going to the ACLJ. We encourage you to do that right now and think about that Bible study. Don't just think about the U.S. Senator. Think about that Bible study. as the reason why and the lives that could be impacted because ACLJ attorneys were there to help and that family who contacted us and that student, they didn't have to worry about how much it would cost in legal fees.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, I think to that point as well, when you listen to what Senator Hagerty told us in the last segment, it wasn't just the u.s senators the fbi was going after they were going after parents at school board meetings they were going after catholic churches sending spies into catholic churches they were doing all these things now if you're looking at records of a phone data request and it's not the names of u.s senators It's just random people. Most time, even if you're doing a review, you're not going to take the time to figure out who these random names are. The fact that it was U.S. senators opens up. Now, what could have else happened? And that's why we have to keep fighting. But I think we should go to this call. Ruth, who's a champion, she's calling on line one from Texas. Ruth, you're on Sekulow.
SPEAKER 02 :
I would recommend that everybody that's convicted forfeits all their money, all their wealth, and pays back the American taxpayer payers. and pay back the people they've taken money from.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you mean the $50 million that Jack Smith just flushed down the toilet and then he ran and didn't even wait to get fired by the Trump administration but ran away and everything got shut down. Listen, that that's you know it's amazing how quickly uh these bad investigators can go through 50 million dollars we've i think with the muller team was this someone in the 30s or 40s it was you know inflation goes up from there and that led to what nothing led to honestly a report that the muller himself could not even uh explain to the congress when he was up before he had to have an assistant to help him explain it because it was so convoluted and it came down to no conclusions And yet they still issue their reports and think that they're so important. But the truth is, it'd be easy. and with senators like Haggard and others that we work with and with the Trump administration to find $50 million real quick in the budget to cut. That's right. I mean, you know what? We could, we could, and they're already doing that. So let you know, I think we have to encourage that work too. Instead of, if you want to go the other way, the Schumer way of I'm so liberal, so I'm going to shut down the government. If you don't add a trillion dollars of spending, even though Republicans control the house and white house.
SPEAKER 09 :
And Jordan, just to close with this as well, Kash Patel put out on X that as a result of our latest disclosure about the baseless monitoring of members of Congress by the prior leadership team of the FBI, we have already taken the following actions. We terminated employees. we abolished the weaponized CR-15 squad. That was a squad within the Washington field office focused on public corruption that they used for Arctic Frost. And we initiated an ongoing investigation with more accountability measures ahead. Now that would be a personnel investigation or a internal investigation, not the criminal investigation that could be taking place at the DOJ that Pam Bondi was not answering questions about appropriately. But once again, Folks, this also happened September of 2023. So a lot of the talk about the Russiagate stuff that was under tight deadlines for statute of limitations. That wouldn't exist here. This was just two years ago.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. In fact, I mean, and it's just coming to light. Right. And it's just coming to light to those who were affected. We know that action has been taken by the FBI. I think now that Kash Patel has put that information out, it allows those members of Congress to kind of dig deeper into... What changes are being made? Maybe some of that needs to be behind closed doors. Some of that can be done publicly. But this can't be the norm now or in the future. Support the work of the ACLJ. Donate today. ACLJ.org.
Join Bill Gundersen and Barry Kite as they explore the financial market's current state and emerging trends in this edition of the Best Stocks Now show. With major indexes hitting highs and gold surpassing $4,000 for the first time, listeners gain insights into the precarious speculative phase of the market. As asset classes surge and government shutdowns are overlooked, the experts analyze potential impacts on investors. Highlighting the influence of prominent financial figures like Paul Tudor Jones and Ken Griffin, the episode draws comparisons to past market bubbles and considers contemporary tools and investment strategies that address modern complexities. The dialogue extends to geopolitical dynamics, assessing risks associated with global economic shifts, particularly with China's growing influence and Taiwan's strategic semiconductor industry. Whether you're a seasoned investor or new to the financial world, this episode offers valuable perspectives on preparing for potential market shifts and leveraging informed decision-making in investment portfolios.
SPEAKER 01 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome to the Tuesday, October 7th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only registered investment advisory firm. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we have a mixed open so far to the market, but we have two records being set here today, actually three records. We have number one, we have the NASDAQ hitting a new all-time high. It's up 26 points right now. AMD is pushing it higher. AMD is up 6.6% again today. The NASDAQ is now 22,967, just a shade away from 23,000. The S&P is also hitting a new all-time high today. It's up three points today. The 6,743, the Dow is the only major index not hitting a new high. It's down 26 points to 46,668. Gold is topping $4,000 per ounce for the first time in its history. And gold is up 65 basis points to $4,002 per ounce. Bitcoin is down a little bit today. Bitcoin is down $1,500 to $123.549. And that all-important 10-year is down one basis point to $4.16 today. So welcome to today's Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson, President Of Gundersen Capital Management, and I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst and certified financial planner. New highs across the board yesterday. In lots of asset classes. In lots of asset classes. We're in a very speculative phase of the market right now. You have to be aware of that. Because the last time we were in a speculative phase like this was the sugar high of 2021. And I saw today Ken Griffin, who is one of the biggest hedge fund managers around Citadel Funds, which moved out of New York and is down in Miami now. He used the same expression I used, sugar high. Sugar high, yeah. So, hey, you know what? How long will the sugar high? That's all I know is when the sugar high wears off, look out below because we're in some pretty rarefied air right now. The only thing that, you know, the good thing going for us is the Fed is in an easing cycle and not a tightening cycle like it was in the sugar high of 2021. So anyways, that's where we sit right now. And of course, crypto. Bitcoin hit a new high yesterday to 125,317. And yesterday, a lot of sugar was infused into the market with the AMD deal, which Wedbush is calling a game changer. Okay. AMD jumps on a deal with OpenAI. And you also had OpenAI had their investor day yesterday. And, I mean, I think what I read is investors will come away from that giddy. about all of the irons in the fire that private company OpenAI has right now. We'll talk about that here in a minute. And, of course, we still have the government shutdown. No one seems to notice. Not if the market's hitting new highs. Who cares? Why don't you guys just take the rest of the year off? It seems to be what the market is saying. But... Something has to happen because I know this, on October the 15th, eight days from now, guess who gets their paychecks, Barry? Our military, you know, members of our military. And if they don't get those paychecks... That's not going to look good for the Democrats or the Republicans. So I would guess... Yeah, that doesn't look good for America.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sorry.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're the ones that keep us America.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sorry, your paycheck bounced. Yeah, so I think they're going to get something done. The key sticking point right now is the Democrats are opposed to the Republicans' plans not to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, which basically the government is subsidizing big time, you know, the lower end of the spectrum, and the Affordable Care Act, which increases everybody else's premiums big time. And the Republicans want to scale that back. If that were to happen... And if they did not extend the affordable care tax credits for 2026, many individuals who obtain their health coverage through state insurance exchanges are likely to face drastically higher premiums without the subsidies. In other words, they'd have to pay what we're paying, right, what the regular guy is paying for his premiums. which, you know, obviously we're paying and subsidizing a lot of those people down in that category. Whether you're for or against that, we're paying, regular people are paying a much higher premium than the ones that are getting their health coverage through the state insurance exchanges. So that is the sticking point, and Trump is willing to talk about on that point. And once again, you know, you have this October 15th hard deadline where you're going to have payroll due to all of our military around the world. So hopefully something can get done, hopefully a compromise. And, you know, I mean, the Democrats are dug in, their heels are dug in on that issue. The Republicans are dug in on their side of the issue, and Trump's willing to mediate and figure out something in the middle that will make each side happy. That relentless rally in gold is just incredible. It scaled another record high on Tuesday. We're hitting 4,002. I can remember not that long ago, Barry, it was stuck at $1,800 to $1,900 for the longest period of time. I have a little physical gold. Most of mine was bought in the $1,800 to $1,900 range. So, you know, you've got a double in your gold holdings. It just seems like all asset classes are very much inflated right now. Goldman is lifting their 2026 target to $4,900. I don't know how you predict. It's like predicting where Bitcoin will go. But that is what Goldman is saying, $4,900. Whether it's market uncertainty, whether it's just the sugar high, there's this move to gold like it's the safest haven out there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and it's funny because, I mean, For five years, if you look at the 10-year chart, for essentially five years, like you said, from basically part of 2015 all the way to really 2020, July of 2020, it was literally in the 1,000 to 2,000 range. Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
So anyways, you know, look, a lot of people are feeling pretty good these days with their Bitcoin holdings, with their AI holdings, with their rare earth holdings, with their nuclear, with their quantum computing holdings, their gold, you name it. And there's a lot of bubbles that have formed all over the markets right now. Citadel's Ken Griffin, who's a pretty smart guy. a very smart guy, warned that investors are starting to consider gold as a safer asset than the dollar, calling the trend really concerning. He says we're seeing substantial asset inflation away from the dollar as people look to de-dollarize or de-risk their portfolios against U.S. sovereign risk, which is all the debt that we have. Griffin said this in a Monday interview with Bloomberg. I'm going to go find that interview and listen to it. That would be very interesting. Gold is surpassing the $4,000 level for the first time in its history today. Helped by safe haven demand. Safe haven demand. A drop in the yen. uncertainty from the ongoing federal government shutdown, well, that's a temporary thing, expectations of potential rate cuts, and broader concerns about inflation and dollar weakness. This year, investors have flocked to gold. Silver is almost at a new high. It's $47 and change per ounce. It's just like 25 cents away from its all-time high. And, of course, they're flocking to Bitcoin and what's been dubbed the debasement trade. The debasement trade. I use the same language in the U.S. economy right now. I couldn't agree more. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Two other experts weighing in here that I pay attention to myself. Of course, we had Warren Buffett yesterday saying that his valuation gauge hit an all-time high. where the market cap of the market is now two times the annual GDP, gross domestic product of the entire country. And that is the highest that that gauge has ever hit. Paul Tudor Jones is another one that I give a lot of credence to, Barry. He says it feels like 1999. I said the same thing in my newsletter on Friday. Because that's all you've got to do is look at the valuation measures that are in the market today. And the first place you look is the 2021 sugar high. from all the stimulus in the market, but the Fed really brought that party to an end with the 475 basis point hikes. Then before that, you go back to the year 2000, and I'm grateful for that experience to have been there in the year 2000. If you weren't there, I can tell you what happened. The NASDAQ doubled. between October 1999 and March of 2000. Six months. And Barry, I remember my ultra growth portfolio in the last 90 days of 1999 was up 142% in one quarter. And I still remember that Iomega was one of the biggest stocks of all time. It was a disruptive technology at the time. You could use those iOmega memory, big clunky things that sat on your desk as a boat anchor now. I mean, they're totally useless. But it was a huge, huge breakthrough. And the NASDAQ doubled in six months. So he says, when he compares today with then, he says, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably not a chicken. And he says that current market conditions feel like it's 1999. According to Paul Tudor Jones, Tudor Investment Corporation founder and CIO, during a CNBC interview, Tudor Jones said that while the comparison to the dot-com bubble period wasn't made lightly, All the ingredients are in place for a similar market environment. I'm not saying this is going to happen again, but we're setting ourselves up. In March of 2000, the NASDAQ topped at $5,300. It then went down 79%. The index, okay, so that means individual stocks within the index, many went to zero, or pennies, they became penny stocks. But there was a difference back then. We didn't have the profit margins that we have now. We didn't have the sales growth that we have now. We didn't have the products that we have now. But the valuations are the same. The valuations, price to cash flow, price to sales to me is especially concerning. We're hitting an all-time high in price to sales ratio. I think we're at 5.4 right now, and I think we only got as high. We never even got close to 5 back then. And, yes, you could say sales are different now and things are different today. But I'm just telling you, I'm reading what Paul Tudor Jones is saying. He said investors should position themselves as if it's October 1999. Well, I can tell you in October 1999, that was a time to be all in, okay, because the market doubled from there. Now, is the NASDAQ going to go to 4,600 from here? It's currently at 2,300. Well, that's what happened from October 1999 to March. But it was after that when it went down some 79%. He added that unlike, however, 1999 when the Federal Reserve was implementing rate hikes, today's market is anticipating rate cuts. So it's almost as if he's saying that we're going to see this bubble expand more like it did in 1999. And it continues to expand, right, on a daily basis. But in 1999 and 2000, here's another huge difference. We had a budget surplus in the U.S. And what do we have now? How much in debt are we? $33 trillion? $33 something.
SPEAKER 07 :
I go with 30-something now.
SPEAKER 06 :
To me, there's the big differentiator between then and now, which is much worse. And I think that's why you're seeing this massive move into gold. Comparing leverage metrics between now and 1999, Jones notes that current levels might actually be higher than those preceding the dot-com bubble when factoring in leveraged ETFs, which we have now. alongside traditional margin debt. So the debt is extremely high. And what are they saying?
SPEAKER 07 :
And the bets are higher. That's the thing. Yes, they're leveraged. Think about a two-times NVIDIA ETF, for example. Most investors couldn't have even purchased that. Most of them couldn't even have margined and bought NVIDIA 15, 20 years ago. The difference is we can all go on right now with no margin agreement. and buy a two-times ETF single stock. You were talking about single stock ETFs yesterday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Those things have really grown. I can't believe this other one. Of course, we are familiar with GraniteShares, which really started the whole thing. But now there's an even bigger one that has a lot of stocks in it that are leveraged. And I'm going to have to add them to the app and create my own sector in the app of leveraged single-stock ETFs, which sounds like an oxymoron. It completely goes against the whole concept of ETFs to begin with, where you don't have single-stock risk. No, you're not taking single stock risk. You're taking double stock single stock risk and triple in some cases. All right. And here's where their warning to not touch with a 10-foot pole is debt. And I could not agree more. Now, I don't have a problem with single individual bonds investment grade on good companies. But this private debt that they're pawning on Wall Street, which I've been warning about, that's the hottest alternative asset class out there. That and private companies, private equity companies. Man, private debt, I wouldn't touch that with a 10th, oh my gosh, it's radioactive. But, you know, they're packaging it on Wall Street and putting a nice label on it and raising money and people are pouring money into it to get a piece of private debt. Ray Dalio, who just spoke this morning, he said this is reminiscent of the mid-70s when he's recommending a 15% exposure to gold and avoiding these debt instruments, which would include bond funds and, in my mind, private debt. Oh, that's just toxic. Anyways, Ray Dalio agreeing with what I've been saying. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services... Call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I can say one thing, Barry.
SPEAKER 06 :
I didn't have the tools available to me back in the year 2000 that we have now. Because, you know, a lot of those individual stocks that are now represent an ETF and they're leveraged, they have an inverse version of them also. And, you know, there's a lot of – I didn't realize that a lot of the little speculative stocks now are caught up in that whole leveraged ETF stuff. It's not just – You know, it's not just the great big stocks like Tesla and AMD, etc. Of course, AMDL was up almost 50% yesterday because it's double AMD to the upside. But they're getting down with those things into the smaller stocks, speculative type stocks, which could be very interesting. So I have so many more tools at my fingertips today, if needed. It's just nice to know they're there. Emergency preparedness, we call it. Just in case, you know, you could just see it. That was going to happen back in the year 2000 that we were way, way too high. But we didn't have the tools. That's all you had back then was cash.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I mean, even in 08-09, those inverse ETFs, they were around, and you've talked about them. But the problem is with those, they weren't designed to be held even overnight. It was like, you know, if you held them overnight, then they would quit tracking the index appropriately. And so, you know, there's certainly different market tools.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now they're much more sophisticated, and they do track. And there's a plethora of them available in order to hedge a portfolio. And I'm just thinking. When debt starts to blow up, especially that private debt and everything, there's inverse against junk bonds, high yield. HYG, I think, is that one. That could come in very handy at some point in time. Now, when the Fed went on... I still like SARC. I think SARC is almost, you know, look, it's going to... She's going to blow up at some point in time. She's blown up every single time in the past. Why not this time? Because she's even more out there on the frontier than ever. The only thing she has going for her is an easing rate cycle. Okay, speaking of bubbles, how about Trilogy Metals today? This is the latest one, TMQ. TMQ is a rare earth stock that is up 217%. It's a triple. Yes, it is. This is a mining company in Alaska. They wanted to build the road up there to it. to extract the rare earth that they thought was there, and the Biden administration shut it down. He blocked the Ambler Road project in Alaska. Well, Trump administration reversed a Biden block and announced a $35 million investment to support mining exploration, making the U.S. government a 10% shareholder. with warrants for an additional 7.5% stake. The 211 mile Ambler Road will improve access to copper, cobalt, Gallium, germanium, and other minerals. And of course, gallium and germanium are both rare earth minerals. I'm familiar with cobalt. As an oil painting artist, we use cobalt blue, which is a beautiful, oh, just a beautiful blue. to mix with a little white to make sky color. We've got to add a little orange to bring it down to make it look real. That neutralizes the blue a little bit. The Biden administration had rejected the project, citing environmental concerns. So anyways, Trilogy Metal, TMQ, the stock of the day. It seems like there's one every day. Okay, now let's go back. You said bubble. I was about to pull up Colgate Palmolive over here. Yes, exactly. You know, Bubblicious? Do they make Bubblicious chewing gum?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think they make Dawn, you know, Palmolive dish soap.
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A lot of bubbles in that. Yeah. There's more bubbles today than in dish soap. AMD rating, quant still sees by, but SA analysts are on hold. Well, the one that holds more weight than all of them to me, Jefferies, upgrades AMD and raises their target price to $300 from $170. Wow. Okay, so AMD today is 214. It's up another 5%. And the Jeffries analyst wakes up, or yesterday after he sees the deal, says, hey, we've got our target price at 170. It's 214. We better revisit it. He saw enough there. In potential earnings, AMD is looking for $6 per share in earnings next year from 385 this year. And when he did the math, I have not upgraded my target price yet. I've got to go in there today. and check where my growth rate is because it takes a while for the consensus growth rate to catch up. So I have to overwrite those consensus growth rates from time to time. Jefferies obviously did that, and they come up with 300. If that's the case, you know, at 215, it's still a pretty good buy. according to jeffries okay uh and i saw another one i had to be wedbush saying that you know what this this is a game changer uh this deal that they made with open ai which is all the buzz in uh silicon valley these days barry we should have went to their investor meeting yesterday It's like the gospel of artificial intelligence there in that Silicon Valley. They're basically worshiping NVIDIA chips and chat GPT and getting all their answers from it. So that's OpenAI's Developer Day. Wow's Wall Street with partnerships and more. Bank of America analyst Justin Post said the revelation that chat GTP now has 800 million weekly users, up from 700 million in August and 400 million in February, is a sign, a lot of religious lingo being thrown around here, that OpenAI is expanding its ecosystem at a rapid clip. Now having said that, I'll just give you an interesting interview to listen to. You know, it was the Tucker Carlson interview with Besant, who's now the commissioner of the IRS, although he just hired a CEO over the IRS. Tucker Carlson had that interview when the S&P was at 4,800. And to me, it was like an aha moment. I realized what they were doing, and I said, this is going to work. And you can't argue that it's not working. every asset class is hitting an all-time high since then and uh... our trade deficit is dropping okay i listen to another interview uh... tucker carlson had a guy on i don't remember his name he's kind of an ordinary guy really is a filmmaker But he was making a film on the occult and rock and roll music when he realized that the Silicon Valley and this OpenAI has the same kind of cult-like relationship. So very interesting interview. Whether you believe in it or not, it's something to weigh in your mind. But he's calling OpenAI the Antichrist. So anyways, if you get a chance, listen to Tucker Carlson's interview. What's his name, Greg? Conrad Flynn, that's it. And he's making a movie called The Flynn Something. But I just found that interview, it's about an hour and a half long. I just found it to be kind of jaw-dropping, really. So anyways, OpenAI. Of course, you know, Sam Altman is the leader of OpenAI, which is going to probably come public at a trillion dollars at some point in time. It's just unbelievable. And the money flowing into Bitcoin ETFs these days, Barry, the second highest inflows since their launch amid crypto rally.
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I saw something where they've got the most options, so the most open interest options on the call side, you know, I think ever in terms of for Bitcoin. And I think, you know, kind of going around, I don't know, 140 grand, 147 grand in terms of the call prices, so. Pretty interesting just in terms of the amount of optimism and the amount of money getting put to work there.
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Unbelievable. And, of course, it has to come from other asset classes like CDs in the bank and even bonds and even stocks. It's being sucked up by crypto. And let's not forget the energy that all of this needs to stay alive. We've got to feed the beast, I guess. We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Amcor soars 12% after increasing Arizona investment plan to $7 billion. breaks ground at a new chip campus. Okay, I guess you could say that there's a lot of stuff being built in the U.S. here these days. And a lot in Arizona.
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I was looking at, saw some map of different states that are in, you know, contraction economically and ones that are in expansion or ones that are just kind of fledgling along. And Arizona was one of the ones that was Certainly in expansion mode and building tons of data centers and other things.
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Yes, and don't forget we're getting Rolls-Royce here in Aiken, South Carolina. Yeah, we were in expansion. Yes, and I'll tell you one other thing about this foundry, which Amcor is a chip company. The Trump administration asked Taiwan Semiconductor, if they would build half of their chips here in the U.S. And they flatly said, no thanks. I mean, they're making their chips in Taiwan.
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Well, they also need it. So, I mean, to me, you know, they're using that as a carrot for, you know, hopefully some protection for the rest of the world to join them in case China does invade because, hey, you've got to help me. We need these chips, right?
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Well, and that's my thought here. You know, I'm a guy that absorbs a lot. I listen to a lot, and I'm like a sponge. I also listened to an interview with – Ah, let's see. Oh, I got it. I'll pull it up. The guy who they took over for Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Okay, Buck Sexton went to Taiwan. He just got back from Taiwan. And he interviewed the president of Taiwan. It's on YouTube. It's about 16 minutes. Definitely, if you get a chance, listen to that. Because he, talking about China... and how they are increasing exponentially their dominance, not just around Taiwan, but they've been buzzing Japan and that whole Southeast Asia area. They now have the biggest Navy in the world. And Buck Sexton asked the president, if you could tell Mr. Trump one thing, he said, I'd tell Mr. Trump that China, you better be careful. You better be aware of what they are up to over there and how. Big, they are big. You know, we sound like we're talking all negative here today. I'm just a guy that listens and tells you what I've heard, lets you digest it, lets you mull it over yourself. But these things are happening. In the world, and we really don't get it. If you're watching the major news channels and whatnot, you got to dig a little bit deeper than just the headlines. But yeah, I mean, he's pretty worried about Taiwan. It didn't sound like anything was imminent. But just think what an invasion of Taiwan by China would do to the global economy and, you know, to technology. When we couldn't get semiconductors during COVID, remember that? And they couldn't build cars. These were low-end semiconductors. Couldn't get baby formula. I mean, come on.
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I mean, let alone chips.
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So anyways, look, I think part of risk management is knowledge. And the more knowledge that you can soak up and absorb and mull through your brain, not through an NVIDIA Blackwell chip, but through a human brain. And they're saying, you know, that's the one thing that AI cannot mimic, which is human emotion. And human, I guess you would say, intuition. It can't mimic that.
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Yeah, or even human irrationality, right? Yes. We always hear about in finance, right, it was the efficient market hypothesis, right? All investors are rational.
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Well, one thing we know is that they're all not rational. No, and the markets are not efficient. And, you know, some areas of the market are more inefficient, right? than others so yeah and it's everything out there in the market is known in the price of the stock okay it wasn't known about amd was it it was up 25 and one day yesterday all of a sudden there was a repricing of amd so anyways uh you know that's all it's an interesting world that we live in And I think the more informed we are, the better the choices and decisions that we can make.
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Well, just the amount of news sources that you view when you wake up in the morning, right? You're not just taking it from one fire hose, right? You're equal opportunity across the globe to see what's going on.
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Several of the talk shows, the interviews, YouTube are all sources that are deeper. I'm not a big ex-Twitter guy myself, but I do know that Buck Sexton's interview, he sounds like a sharp guy. The president of Taiwan is a very, very intelligent man. And Sexton's interview is on X, if you want to listen to it. And, of course, the late Charlie Kirk. I used to listen to him, too, a lot. But Tucker Carlson, his interview with this Flynn guy, And AI, it is absolutely riveting. And it's an hour and a half. It's definitely worth the time. I use TuneIn Radio. TuneIn Radio has all the talk shows out there. And I could choose any one that I want. I'll listen to several in a day. My wife will listen to a couple that I don't. She has her favorites. One of them is not Best Docs Now, by the way. She says, I hear enough of you at the dinner table and all around the house and everything like that. She has other favorite talk shows. Anyways, we're out of time. I've got to quit talking. This is becoming a talk show. But I think this is really important, really, really vital. Valuation, bubbles, AI, and everything that's going on in the world, China, etc. Very important knowledge to mull over in your brain at this time in our history. Well, if you'd like to set up an appointment with us, we don't stay the course with the 60-40 asset allocation, nor do we have one to begin with. We take into account things that happen in the world besides you becoming one year older and needing 1% more in bond funds and 1% less in stock funds. I think that's too simplistic of a way to invest. To make an appointment with us, 855-611-BEST to get a four-week trial through our newsletter at GundersenCapital.com, GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody, and stay informed.
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