Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Roger Mangan’s life is the quintessential American story. Roger and his wife Alice moved to Colorado fifty years ago to start a State Farm Insurance business. Roger shares the recipe for his business success. State Farm Agent Mitch Gardner notes how Mangan’s recipe changed his life. Jan Jekielek, Senior Editor at The Epoch Times, discusses the Chinese Communist Party’s human organ harvesting. Colorado Rep. Ken DeGraaf explains why he represents his constituents instead of special interests at the Colorado Capitol. Joe Whitney with Rooted in Littleton notes the latest regarding preserving their community. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560 AM every Monday thru Friday, 6-8 AM MST. You can listen to the live stream by going to www.klzradio.com
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It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the staff here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And we've got an amazing show planned for you today. I'm really pleased to have in studio with me Roger Mangan, a great sponsor of the show, State Farm Agent. It's great to have you here. Thank you, Kim. Good to be here. And you brought along one of your colleagues, and that is Mitch Gardner, who's also a State Farm Agent. Mitch, it's great to have you here.
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Good morning, and thank you.
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I think both you and I can attest that meeting Roger Mangan has changed our lives.
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Amen. Yeah.
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And so we're going to talk about that, you and Roger, as our featured guests in segments three and four. So it's great to have you here. Thank you again. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, it's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy. and unpredictable in excess of taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that plays out at the United Nations with this Colorado legislature and governor. But we're seeing it trickle all the way down to local government. And in fact, we'll be talking with Joe Whitney with Rooted in Littleton in the second segment of this hour. So remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. Let's get in here. I chose the word of the day, quintessential. It's a great word. It's spelled Q-U-I-T-E-S-S-E-N-T-I-A-L. It could be being the most typical example or most important part of something. And I'm going to go to a typical example here. Roger, I don't want to embarrass you, but knowing your life story, I would say that you are the quintessential American dream. And so I chose the word of the day for that.
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Well, thank you, Kim. I'm honored today.
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It's a great story. And our word of the day is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He was born in 1749, died in 1832. He was a German polymath who is widely regarded as the most influential writer in the German language. His work has had a wide-ranging influence on literary, political, and philosophical thought in the Western world from the late 18th century to the present. A poet, playwright, novelist, scientist, statesman, theater director, and critic. You know, Joe, I think that that was probably before iPhones, when somebody could get all that done there. Garite wrote on a wide range of works, including plays, poetry, and aesthetic criticism. And he said this, "'The moment one definitely commits oneself,' then providence moves too. Whatever you think you can do or believe you can do, begin it. Action has magic, power, and grace. I thought that was a great quote for the day. So jumping into that, let's see. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And so thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. And then also Hooters Restaurants has been a great sponsor of the show for many years. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora. And they have great specials Monday through Friday for lunch or for happy hour. and how I got to know them. I would say it's a quintessential story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those pesky PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want to try to control our lives. So be sure and check that out with the football season in full swing. It's a great place to get together to watch the games. There is a lot going on regarding headlines. And number one, As you know, we have been watching these transmission lines, this big land takings on transmission lines, and then just the amount of acreage for industrial solar and wind projects. And Trump, true to his word, this is from CT Insider. He is canceling 12, you know what, and we'll challenge clean energy projects as we're learning. These solar panels and wind turbines are not recyclable. But anyway, Trump is canceling 12 of these projects in Connecticut, totaling $52.9 million. And so that is pretty interesting that he's staying true to his word on that. Next thing, and I was speaking at a backyard event on Friday night, and a gentleman, we've talked about this, he said this is a really big deal, and this is from complete Colorado, that the U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear a Colorado case probably tomorrow, on Tuesday, challenging the state statute banning use of so-called conversion therapy on minors. I remember when that piece of legislation went through the statehouse that said that if a child is having some confusion regarding their gender and they go to a therapist, a therapist by law can no longer talk with them about being the same gender that they actually were born with. They can only talk about transitioning. And they're calling that conversion therapy would be to talk with the young person about about what their actual gender is. And so by law, here in Colorado, they can't do that. They can only affirm gender transition. So Kaylee Childs, who is represented by the public interest law firm Alliance Defending Freedom, is arguing this. She said this violates her First Amendment right to free speech by barring a counselor conversations on the topic under threat of license revocation with clients under the age of 18. And it says the statute defines conversion therapy as efforts to change an individual's sexual orientation, including efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attraction. And I can't believe that the Colorado state legislators think that they need to get in between a patient and their therapist. So the case is scheduled for tomorrow. And the question presented asked whether a law that censors certain conversations between counselors and their clients based on the viewpoints expressed regulates conduct or violates the free speech clause. So this is huge. And thank you for, I'm glad that this was brought to my attention on that. Next thing, again, as you know, I was involved, moderated the documentary, A Climate Conversation, which you can watch for free at aclimateconversation.com. It's a project of my friend Walt Johnson, who is a geophysicist for over 50 years. And he wanted to just have an honest conversation about this whole climate thing. And we filmed that about three years ago, and he's in the process of, we're going to do a sequel to this. But we had seen so much pressure in so many different areas regarding the narrative of violence. of climate change and i found this headline quite interesting this is from the irish news says the global banking climate group is to stop operations after member accidents and so what we were seeing is pressure on banking institutions to fund this agenda. And then, of course, we had all kinds of tax incentives and all kinds of money going towards that agenda. And I think this is a big deal. And it says assembled in 2021 by the UN Environment Program's finance initiative, but led by banks, the Net Zero Banking Alliance committed members to align their lending, investment and capital market activities with cutting planet warming greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2050. And quite frankly, as we learned in the documentary, CO2 is nature's plant food. And the idea that we are trying to cut nature's plant food is kind of crazy. But it goes on to say several major banks, including British lenders HSBC and Barclays, left the group within the last year. Remaining members have now voted to stop being a member-based organization, the alliance announced recently. The resources developed over the last few years will remain available to banks looking to make commitments to help tackle climate change. And again, I would really recommend that you check out A Climate Conversation because it's just a great... a Socratic method of just kicking the tires on these ideas. And so be sure and check that out. You can watch that for free at aclimatconversation.com. And then also wanted to mention Mint Financial Strategies. They're a great sponsor of the show. And Jody Henze asks, do you have big plans for your future? future, but you're not quite sure how to get there? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies because they know that your financial life is unique, and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first. No sales pressure, no one-size-fits-all approach, just thoughtful guidance built around you. So take that first step toward your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies at 303-285-3080. And then also the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. Roger's been in business for over 50 years, helping his clients, taking care of his family, giving back to his community. And, in fact, at the event that I was at on Friday evening, I had a friend that said that they'd moved out to Elbert County. And they'd been using an insurance broker. And the cost for their new property was very expensive. So she said, well, why don't we call Roger Mangan? And that's what they did. And she said his team was able to save them over half. And then she said she referred a number of her friends to you as well. So love that, Roger. And so like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team is there.
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Thank you so much for having me. To learn more, reach out to Teresa at 520-631-9243. Teresa would love to talk with you. Again, that number is 520-631-9243.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And also check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. Paula Sarles and her team is raising the money to take care of and remodel the official Marine Memorial, which is right out here in Golden. And Veterans Day is right around the corner. A great way to say thank you is to support the memorial. And you can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have in studio with me Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team and Mitch Gardner with the – is it the Mitch Gardner State Farm Insurance Team? Mm-hmm.
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Yes, it is.
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Okay. Well, it's great to have both of you here, and we'll be talking with both of you in the next segment about how Rogers changed our lives. So that's great. But on the line with me is Joe Whitney. He is with a group rooted in Littleton. Joe, it's great to have you on again.
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Thank you. Great to be here.
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So there's a lot going on. I go to church over in Littleton. And as I go up and down Broadway, I've seen a number of rooted in Littleton signs. And tell us just a little bit about what that is if people are not familiar with it.
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Yeah, Rooted in Littleton is a volunteer community organization. A bunch of Littleton residents got together because the city tried to push through an ordinance in January where they would change the definition of single-family residential to include duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes in every neighborhood in Littleton. So we came together to fight that and we're successful so far in pushing it back. But now we've got a ballot initiative that hopefully can make that a little more longer lasting than just November's election.
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So, Joe, the governor on these land use codes, the state has tried to get into this whole zoning regarding increasing density. And it really should be a local issue, yes?
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It should, yeah. We are a home rule city, but our city has failed to join the home rule suit against the governor.
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Okay. And why is this important regarding single-family homes, Joe Whitney?
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Well, gosh, it comes down to individual home rights. And in our particular case, you know, all of us moved to Littleton because we wanted to get away from the crime and the traffic and the pressures of downtown to have a more idyllic setting to raise kids and to live. And this really threatens to make Littleton an extension of downtown and to really densify, double, maybe even triple the population of Littleton. They want to make it super bike-friendly, remove parking requirements, and basically really change the whole makeup of the town.
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Now, I was over in Centennial, and this just popped up on a kind of a, it's not a main thoroughfare, but close enough, one of those feeder streets. And the people that live there, one day they woke up, and they had had the bike lanes that were painted, and then the pylons, and then the little turtle things. And I'm wondering how that works for snow removal, but the neighbors were pretty frustrated with that.
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Yeah, there's a lot of that happening in Littleton. Not always for the better. We're all for safer streets. There's lots of ways to do it. But just putting cones on every single street and lining them. Some of them have so many cones and so much paint. Trying to really understand where to be. I think it's actually more dangerous than it was before they did it.
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When I was on city council, I served on city council in Lone Tree from 2012 to 2016. We were seeing that push, and it comes typically from interested parties, goes to staff, and then it just happens. And many times, your representatives don't understand or are not aware of it. And I asked, how much money is being used for all this paint and the time that it takes for staff to just paint the roads, but then to add in all of this other stuff, that costs money, Joe Whitney.
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Boy, it sure does. And speaking of costing money, the city of Littleton has now sued us. They've filed for a judicial review of our charter amendment, which is going to cost the taxpayers, you know, boy, I don't know, 30, 40, $50,000. And it's going to cost us a lot of money to defend ourselves, you know, right as we're coming into this election. So it's curious with the timing of this whole thing.
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What are they suing you for?
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So we have ballot initiative 3A, which essentially is an initiative. It's a charter amendment. And the charter amendment protects single family residential zoning in Littleton. Now, charter amendments can be changed, but they require a vote of the people. You know, all of us, for the most part, people in Littleton don't have a lot of trust for the city council because they tried to change the definition of single family residential zoning. So the only way we could think to stop it, at least for a couple of years, was to get an amendment on the charter that made it so that they can't change it. So ours actually freezes the land use code. to January 1st, 2025, so they can't attempt to rezone any of the existing neighborhoods in Littleton. And they could have filed for a judicial review to look into it earlier, but they waited until right before the election when we're trying to get mailers out and things like that. to file their judicial review. And it's problematic for two reasons. Number one, it drains our ability to really fund our organization and compete in a fair election. And they knew that. They could have done it sooner. They could have waited until after the election. But the second thing that happens is if the judge doesn't dismiss it, and we're trying to get him to dismiss it next week, but it takes a few weeks to do that. If the judge doesn't dismiss it by the law, he will toll the election, which means he will not let our ballot initiative move forward in this election. And we'll have to schedule a separate election later, which probably will cost $100,000 for the city to fund.
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Let me get this straight. The citizens, some of the citizens in Littleton are concerned about really losing their neighborhoods because if you start to densify, and the other thing is they're not really addressing parking, so you get to a point where you have people on top of each other. I was out in California visiting someone, And people would drive around and try to figure out a place to park at night. They then would have to walk to their apartment or their house. And it really is – it's bad policy, I think, to do that. But so citizens came together. They wanted to put a ballot initiative on the ballot so that people could – just have their voices heard. And you're saying the city of Littleton is suing you so that people cannot vote on this. Am I getting that right?
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You are. I will tell you the city's public response to this is, oh no, if the judge decides to toll the election, which he's required to do so by law, they say they will waive that right. It's really unclear if they even have that right. It's certainly not specified in the law. It's a brand new law, by the way, that went into effect August 6th that the city is using for this lawsuit. It was backed by real estate. investor, real estate companies and developers and apartment builders. So, you know, basically the people that line city council's pockets at election time. And so, you know, we don't know that they can say that. And so, yeah, we think we've essentially might be silenced in this election.
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Well, that takes my breath away, Joe Whitney. What about, can you talk about candidates? I know that there's an important races for city council and mayor. Are you endorsing any candidates from? We are.
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We are. There are four. And thank you for asking. There is one member of city council, Pat Driscoll, who has been the only person consistently to stand up against citizens. The zoning changes the city has wanted to make. So he's running for mayor. We think he's got a really good shot. We've also got an at-large candidate, David Carlton. We've got Kurt Samuelson running for District 3. And Darren Limerand is running for District 1. So we've got four really solid candidates, all business people with proven professional business track records. All four will make a stark contrast to what we see on council today, which for the most part are people that are idealists.
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Okay. And again, give us those names one more time, Joe Whitney.
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Yeah, Darren Limerand, he is District 1, Kurt Samuelson, District 3, David Carlton is the at-large candidate, and Pat Driscoll, Mayor.
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Okay. I'm looking over here, yeson3a.org, and I'm a little perplexed. I am and I'm not. But the idea that... Your city would sue people to keep a question off the ballot. That seems like that's that's antithetical to the American idea. I think we want to have people to be able to have their voices heard.
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Yeah, and it gets a little creepier than that because they claim it's not a suit. At the same time, we were served papers. And, you know, the papers clearly say Littleton versus rooted in Littleton, city of Littleton versus rooted in Littleton. And the money we have to spend to defend our interest in this is significant. It's well into five figures just to get a motion to dismiss, which we think we have a good shot at. But still. It drains our coffers as we're coming into the election. And if we don't prevail, then we'll be silenced.
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And the other problem is, though, is the city of Littleton has not unlimited dollars, but they have taxpayer dollars that they can tap. And they also have typically a city attorney or a contract out with a city attorney. The taxpayer is paying for that as well.
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Yeah, they hired an outside law firm. Aha. Okay. So for somebody not suing us, why they hired an outside law firm is a little perplexing that they can say that.
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This is very, very concerning. Joe Whitney, I normally do a voter's guide, and so I was working on that yesterday. And so I was trying to find the information regarding Denver. They have a bond package, $950 million. And What's frustrating is it's not easy for everyday people to really get the actual ballot language. There was everything on there about vote, vote, vote, vote, vote, but we don't know what we're voting on. And now I can't remember which founder it was. But they said it doesn't really matter if we are electing representatives of the people if, in fact, the laws and regulations are so voluminous that we can't understand them and that these groups are not representing the people. So this is a big deal, what's happening in Littleton, Joe Whitney. What's your final thought? Websites, all of that kind of information.
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Our thought is the city really needs representatives that are representative of the people. You know, the people of Littleton don't want this. They've been very vocal ever since January 1st when four or five hundred people jammed city council chambers. We went and conducted a survey and found out almost everybody in Littleton is against this, yet the city continues to push this agenda, and they know the people don't want it. So their mandate that they say is for people who might move to Littleton in the future, and they think they need to make the best decision for them, even though we're the ones who live there and have lived there for years.
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And are paying the taxes. You're paying the taxes for the city of Littleton to sue the people. That seems like a problem. Okay, that website is rootedinlittleton.org, rootedinlittleton.org. Joe Whitney, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. This is important that people step up and protect their communities. So thank you so much.
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Thank you, Kim. Always a pleasure.
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There's so much noise coming at us. Sometimes it is difficult to make sense of it all. How can you sift through the clamor for your attention and get to the truth? The Kim Monson Show is here to help. Kim searches for truth and clarity by examining issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Tune in to the Kim Monson Show each weekday, 6 to 8 a.m. with encores 1 to 2 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m. on KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. The KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa. Play KLZ. Shows can also be found at KimMonson.com, Spotify, and iTunes.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we had Joe Whitney on in the previous segment with Rooted in Littleton. And they could really use your help from a financial standpoint. So go to RootedinLittleton.org and and you can make a contribution there, I think. And also, I think regarding the Yes on 2A, you can make a contribution there. And that is yeson3a.org, yeson3a.org. One of the nonprofits that I feature on a regular basis is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. It is on the beautiful Riverwalk. It's nonpartisan, nonpolitical, but they're focusing on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. They have the Portraits of Valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients listed. as well as great educational programs for our students and educators to really work on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Pleased to have in the studio with me my friend, great sponsor of the show, Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. It's great to have you here. Thank you, Kim, very much. And Mitch Gardner, who is a successful state farm agent as well. Mitch, it's great to have you here.
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Thank you, Kim. I appreciate that.
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Well, and Roger, we do interviews on a regular basis. And Roger had talked about kind of a shortened version of four things about being a success in business. And he shared them with me, and then he told a story about the two of you. And we thought, this is a great story. So it's great to have you here, Mitch Gardner. Tell us about this.
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Well, thank you. And thank you, Roger. I cannot begin to say thank you enough, which I've expressed to you so many times. I just I'm honored to be here, Kim. And when you're talking about I think you said the word is quintessential.
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Yes, quintessential.
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Yes. There was a good word for Roger in terms of being a motivator and an inspiration to not just myself, but a lot of people. So I just want to make sure I get that out there. I think that's an excellent word. I've been an agent for 42 years.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Yes. And again, I owe that to Roger as well.
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He referred to you in this conversation as the young guy, but you've been in business for 42 years. Yes.
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Yes, which is a major milestone in terms of just doing business and having the knowledge and stuff and skills that you need to run a successful business, just in general. And my... introduction to Roger was that he was very successful and still is, but he was this person that was out there and was really, really, really doing really good work as an agent and involved in the community. And so someone had told me to call him and speak to him. And I said, okay, well, maybe I'll do that. And the funny part about my experience was the fact of being locked in on trying to do business as a, you know, just as a startup. And We call that a scratch agent. So I was just a scratch agent, which means that you don't get any files or anything. So you just start knocking on doors and go from there and making calls. And so I was about maybe three or four years into my agency, but I wasn't going anywhere. I mean, I really wasn't doing what I thought you should be able to do in this business.
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And that's tough work. I was in the investment business. And cold calling, it's a lot of work to start a scratch business. So things are not happening, but you're not giving up.
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No, not giving up. So I called Roger. We were in a meeting together, and someone had introduced me. And so I called him and asked if I could maybe stop by and pick his brain a little bit. And so I called him, and he was very open, and he says, sure, come on over, Mitch. So he didn't look at you as a competitor? No. No, he did not. Interesting. Yeah.
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So you get together.
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So we get together. Beautiful office. Everything was going well. I'm like, man, this is good. How do you do this? And so he said, you have to kind of get outside the box. that was a major thing for me to understand in terms of what he was saying about being an owner of a business okay right because before that i kind of was always this employee type mentality and not being an owner and one of the things he said to me which i will never forget he said well, you ever go to the bank? I said, well, yeah. Well, have you ever met the president of the bank? I said, well, no. He says, because that's an owner. And a lot of times you don't meet the owners of organizations. And so you have to shift your thinking to get outside of just being an employee. Because now you have to run a business, which means you have to have staff. You have to have And so when I came in, I said, okay, well, I just need one person. And at that time, a copier, right? And Roger, if you remember, we had the old microfiche system that we was using. And that's the one that I thought I needed, right? Was to do these things. But no, I needed something more aggressive than just that, right? And so... He said, think outside the box. And that was just something that triggered for me in terms of getting outside of the box in terms of my thinking. And so when I did that, I... I don't know. Things just started happening, Kim.
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Really? Almost like that?
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Yes. Things started happening because my thought process really changed. And I got a chance to see his office. And it made me think about what was going on in my office and my agency and how I was going to make this shift. Because that meant bringing in more people. And I'm just getting started, if you know what I mean. But bringing in more people and being able to be a coach instead of just plugging along. So I'm teaching them my skills in terms of knocking on the doors or making the calls. So they had more of a team approach to getting things going.
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What about hiring team members? Because getting the right people is really important. So how did that go, Mitch?
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Well, going back to Roger again, going back to Roger again, in terms of interviewing people, I started looking at people who worked in restaurants and people who were working in the banks, right, in terms of what they did and their skill sets. Because in the insurance agency, right, That's what we do. We deal with people, and we have to deal, oh, the other one was people who worked in restaurants. Because they have the situation where they can tolerate the onslaught of adversity in the insurance industry, meaning catastrophes, accidents, or whatever might go along with that, to be able to service to service our clients, right? I mean, like you said earlier, like a good neighbor, State Farm's there. And I wanted to own that brand. I wanted to do that. And by the way, I was a State Farm client when I was a kid at 17. So I kind of knew a little bit about State Farm as a kid, but not knowing what was going on the inside, but State Farm always took care of the issues I had. So, I don't know, it just brought that to fruition for me in terms of looking for people who had the skill set to want to help and really serve people and to be able to give back.
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Wow. Roger, are you embarrassed that we're talking about you behind your back while you're sitting here?
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No, I am thinking about the people who in my life touched me as I was a young person. And I think my message to the listening public is whoever you are, Do something, and you can do it consciously or unconsciously, to touch the lives of people to light the path so they can move forward. Now, I'm thinking of my Scoutmaster when I was 11 years old, one of the great influencers of my life. But that was only a two-year window. And that two-year window as a Boy Scout, I was amazed at this person who cared about me so much that he recommended me for certain things like the Order of the Arrow, which is a very special award that is given to scouts. And it has to do with leadership. So here I am, 11, 12 years old, and he's looking at me as a potential leader. And I never looked at myself that way. So from that point, I had a wrestling coach at McKinley Park District in Chicago who also looked at me that way. So my point is, you, if you're a listener, please know that you can have so much impact on the lives of people without knowing it by just getting involved, just being there for them. In Mitch's case, we were just casually talking, invited him over, and my hat's off to Mitch because... As his career unfolded, he was able to prosper, to have a great agency, and at the same time work on his Ph.D., which he got. Mitch, tell them a little bit about that because that's amazing.
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Well, we're going to keep that as our cliffhanger, okay? And that is, yeah, we want to hear about that. And these discussions happen. As you know, I'm an independent voice on an independent station, so I don't have any corporation telling me what to do. And that is why our sponsors and your support is so important. And certainly, I know each and every one of our sponsors, and they all strive for excellence. And one of those sponsors is Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. In studio with me is Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And we're talking with Mitch Gardner, one of your colleagues, about how you... influenced his life and so Mitch you have a successful State Farm agency but Roger said while you were building that you also got your PhD so tell us about that well um wow
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Well, I went to Roger's office and I saw the different awards and stuff that he had in his office and stuff. And so I was inspired by that as well. I got my undergraduate in Missouri, at Kirksville, Missouri. And also Roger brought the thing with the Boy Scouts and the arrow. I was a part of that as well. I didn't know that we had that connection. I just understand that to the Boy Scouts for a long time. and still kind of actively involved with the Boy Scouts. So I just wanted to give that plug, because I didn't know we had that piece together. Thanks for sharing. The leadership.
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Yesterday I stopped at the hardware store, and there were Boy Scouts selling popcorn. And I know it's expensive, and I didn't have my cash with me, so I went back to the car, and then I came around because I thought, I want to support what they're doing. So I now have that expensive popcorn. Thank you, Kim.
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So your PhD. So anyway, I noticed that I think you had a master's degree, correct? Yes. Yes. And so he had that. And so I always wanted to do those things, but I didn't have the resources to be able to do that. And so it allowed me to go to get my master's degrees at Regis. Wow. Because of the opportunity in terms of what Roger was able to do for me. It allowed me to do that, and I got my master's degree from Regis, graduate with honors. Awesome. So then from there, I went to San Francisco and got my PhD at Saybrook University.
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And what's the studies?
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Studies is in business systems and also psychology, of course. My major is in psychology and business systems. And so that, I contributed to that man over there also because he just inspired me. And he just opened, for me it was like, okay, here's the key and you gotta open the door, right?
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And then you had to take it from there.
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But I had to take it from there, right? But sometimes you have a door and you got the doorknob, but you can't get in unless somebody opens the door latch for you to get in. And so Roger did that for me. right and then i'm able to i'm able to give back so i also work at unc and also work or teach at ames because i'm able to get back because of that gentleman over there and so you are you're helping other people exactly with opening that door exactly oh i love that
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Roger, we did a short snippet about you had four things that you really said people need to pay attention to to be successful. And refresh my memory on that.
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Glad to, Kim. Every business looks at itself through a lens, and the lens that I use to move my business through the years have been, there are four elements to every successful business. The first is you have to produce. to survive. In my business, you have to sell insurance policies. So whatever business you're in, if you're on IT, you better get contracts in order to pay the bills and move forward. The second element of a very successful business is you have to be able to administer the business to know where these leads are coming from, what you need to do to be better than you were the day before. So administering the business is critical because if you're not keeping track of how the business is running on a daily basis, certainly weekly, then all you're doing is treading water. The third element of every successful business is to entrepreneur the business, to change what's going on, to stay ahead of the curve in order to be up to speed on new things that are happening in your industry. And I think that's where Mitch came in. He saw what I was doing, and I was... Frankly, ahead of the curve. Most companies think about this as an armada of ships going across the ocean, and it's wartime, and all the destroyers are protecting the aircraft carriers. They're all keeping tight as they move along. Well, that's good when you're in the defensive mode, but being defensive isn't going to lead to success. So there are ships in that armada that sail ahead of the fleet. And they're in danger when they do that because they're thinking outside the box. But you have to do that in order to be better than you were before. So I think entrepreneuring your business is critical to your success. And the last element of every successful business is to actually integrate the business. So those are the four steps. Now, integration is defined as the ability of the business to function without Mitch Gardner or Roger Mangan being present at all times and still be a successful entity. So if you integrate the business, it means you are working on the business and not in the business. So that's the model.
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Very good. I've got to just jump in because that's what exactly what he told me. And the point in terms of he says, you've got to build it so that you can do whatever you need to do. And that business is going to take care of itself. And so that was another one of those major milestones for me going, I never thought about that that way. Right. It can function and it's going to survive forever. with your presence or without your presence, right? And so that was another one of those jewels.
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My dad said to me, he said, you need to do what you need to when you need to. So someday you can do what you want to when you want to. So I think that that's part of that. Roger, we've got about three minutes left, but I think we should give a shout out to your wife, Alice.
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I hope she's listening. She said she would be. Yeah, my wife is extraordinary. She... She is there at my side supporting me in virtually everything I do. If I try to do more than we're both capable of, she reminds me that there are limitations. You just don't run ahead of that fleet so far that you outrun your supply line. So keeping... A eye on the business in the mirror, as well as looking through the windshield as to where you're going, is a nice balancing act. And my wife, Alice, keeps me well-balanced. Believe me, she's a superstar.
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She is a superstar, and so I wanted to say thank you to her.
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Well, can I give a shout-out to my wife, too? Please do. We celebrated 50 years of marriage.
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Congratulations.
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And the same thing, Roger. Again, congratulations. And everything I do has kind of been watching this man. And so it gave me that part again to look at what's going on, the whole thing's together. And, yes, just like my right-hand person is my wife in terms of she's involved in all the things that I do. And I just wanted to say thank you, if you're listening.
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Ah, that's awesome.
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Her name's Christine.
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Well, and you will actually get a recording of this, so you can take that and play that for her. So Mitch Gardner, we've got just a couple of minutes left. What's your final thought?
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I think I just want to echo what Roger was saying. Basically, those four points are very crucial to understand what's going on. But to set your business, focus on working on your business, and not in your business. I think that was one of those major keys. So that would be my kind of final words for that, right? And then don't forget to help others along the way.
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Mitch Gardner, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I appreciate it, Kim. And again, a shout out to your wife, Christine. And Roger Mangan, your final thought.
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Well, keep your balance in life, dear listeners, because you get pushed by all kinds of little pressures, whether it's buying a new car or buying a house. Don't overextend yourself. Live within your means, and you will be in charge of your life as opposed to running after it.
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Roger Mangan, my life is better. I'm learning so much from you and from Alice, and I so appreciate you immensely. And our quote- Thank you, Kim. And like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there. That number is 303-795-8855. Our quote for the end of the show, I went to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, and he said this. He said that there are only two lasting bequests that we can hope to give our children- one of these is roots and the other is wings so my friends today be grateful read great books think good thoughts listen to beautiful music communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you and god bless america thank you
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And fast on a rough road Riding high through the mountains Climbing, twisting, turning Further from my home Young like a new moon Rising fierce to the rain And lightning wandering out into this ground And I don't want no one to cry But tell them if I don't survive
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And we've got what a great first hour. Just really, truly inspirational to have Mitch Gardner, a successful State Farm agent, and Roger Mangins, successful State Farm agent, who is a great sponsor of the show. It really, really inspires me. And they're both just truly entrepreneurs and really, really do appreciate that. Let's go ahead and jump in here to a number of the things that we want to get done. The first thing is our word of the day is quintessential. It's spelled Q-U-I-N-T-E-S-S-E-N-T-I-A-L. And it could be being the most typical example of or most important part of something. And I would say that the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team, Roger and his wife, Alice, he is the quintessential American farmer. man, I would say. And that's why I chose the word today. It's just I'm truly inspired and so pleased to have Roger and his team as sponsors, and I consider them friends. So our quote of the day, I went to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He was a German polymath, widely regarded as the most influential writer in the German language. He was born in 1749. He died in 1832. He said this, the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. Whatever you think you can do or believe you can do, begin it. Action has magic, power, and grace. And again, it took me a while to find the quote of the day. Sometimes it takes me a while as I'm thinking about the guests and the show. And it took me a while to find this. But I really felt that this was... Again, an inspiration of what Roger has done with his life. And I so wanted to share that. We talked with Joe Whitney in Hour Number One with Rooted in Littleton. And thank you, Jenny, for this text message. She said, so let me get this right. The Littleton government is suing the citizens they are supposed to be representing. Is this another example of being selected and non-elected with those voting in Colorado? That's a good question, Jenny. However, what has happened is... Everyday people have been busy. And we have gone to these elections. Or sometimes when I was on city council, I did not have an opponent. And so I automatically got on city council because I said yes. And many times we will have people that just don't step up and run for office. And so what has happened is these local governments, instead of representing the people, they are representing special interests. And the special interests may be pushing the agenda of the World Economic Forum. which would be that by 2030, you will own nothing and be happy about it. Well, let's just think about it. With this density that they're talking about, they're rental units. and pushing out single-family homes. And a friend of mine, she many times says, Kim, but there's only so much land, and so we have to become denser. Well, quite frankly, what has happened is that there have been rules and regulations and ordinances that have prevented development on other land. And And then, again, trying to push people into denser neighborhoods. The other thing is, is we are funding our own demise on this as well through taxing ourselves or the Colorado Lottery regarding buying, having government buy up land for – we have this, in air quotes, open space – Well, when we have government that is owning land that we cannot build homes on, then what happens is the price of homes goes up. And so we need to, I think, relax some of those rules and regulations. The other thing that we have to look at, though, is our resources. And that is water, schools, traffic. with these denser and denser neighborhoods that puts more of a strain on resources. And we are not asking those questions. And so I think all those questions need to be asked. But again, you can get the information on all that by going to Rooted in Littleton and Yes on 3A, which is a ballot question that the citizens want to have on the ballot to just ask other citizens what they think And their city, their representatives, and they pay taxes into that, are using those resources to sue the people to say, no, we don't want to have that question on the ballot. It's out of control here, my friends, and we've got to reclaim our communities and reclaim the Colorado that we love. So another interesting headline is we are seeing, in a way, bailouts of bad decisions by electeds. And this one is from the Denver Downtown Development Authority was joined by Denver Mayor Mike Johnston on the 16th Street recently to announce that the board was well on its way to purchasing the Denver pavilions. The Denver Pavilions is a shopping district that takes up two city blocks between 15th and 16th streets between Welton and Tremont. The city leaders announced that the Denver Downtown Development Authority plans to purchase the site for $37 million. I think just last election cycle, There was a question on the ballot for either additional taxes or additional money for the Denver Downtown Development Authority. Never thought that that would mean that the city was going to be buying property. And in a way, this might be a bailout for developers regarding the pavilions. And, of course, you also have to look at public policy issues. that because Denver has become dirty and dangerous and dysfunctional, people have not been going downtown. And then, of course, those businesses that had been in the pavilions suffer because of bad policy. And now you've got government coming in, taxing people to buy land, which I don't think that is the proper role of government. So anyway, they're going to put together a master plan And they said they're going to bring in an international specialist to partner with us in restoring and enriching the Denver pavilions. Quite frankly, Mike Johnston, the mayor, and the Denver City Council can't seem to run the city. I'm not sure how they think that they're going to run a business. So anyway, stay tuned on that as well. So several things. I always like to get some of my thank yous out there. And one of those is to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. Because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. and so thank you to laramie energy for their gold sponsorship of the show and also wanted to to mention little ritchie's i love italian food and from parker to golden little ritchie's pizza and pasta is your go-to for real new york style pizza hearty pastas and that unbeatable local vibe little ritchie's is serving up daily specials quick and tasty weekday lunch deals and a happy hour the locals actually build their plans around So whether you're bringing the crew, catching up with friends, or flying solo for a hot slice, Little Richie's is your neighborhood hangout. Some of the other headlines that I wanted to mention is this is just crazy what we have seen regarding the Des Moines superintendent. In Des Moines, Iowa, the superintendent was here illegally and apparently had not been truthful on his employment application. And you got to wonder how on earth this could ever happen. And so anyway, we've got crazy stuff that's been happening in our community. country and in our communities and we are shedding light on these things so that we can reclaim our communities and reclaim the colorado that we love and these important discussions happen because of our sponsors and really a great story with roger mangan and mitch gardner in our number one like a good good neighbor the roger mangan state farm insurance team is there
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. And be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And I did want to mention Mint Financial Strategies. They are doing amazing work, and financial freedom starts with the right guide. Mint Financial Strategies can help. They're an independent firm with over 25 years of experience, and their credentials have an accredited investment fiduciary. They offer advice that's focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy-first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms with clarity, confidence, and control. So call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. And regarding the subject that I mentioned with the city of Denver buying the Denver pavilions, using tax money to do so, this came in on the text line, and I do want to hear from you, 720-605-0647. First thing is, when government owns land, it also takes that property off the tax rolls. And since the budgets don't go down, taxpayers subsidize the government property through higher property taxes. And this is from Susan. She said cities have become big developers spending lots of tax money without taking any of the risks, and they are using zoning to help them take the property. I think that both of our listeners have nailed that on that. And property rights is inherent in the American idea. So let's get to our guest here. Jan Jekielek, excuse me, Jan Jekielek, I got to get that right. Jan Jekielek is a senior editor with the Epoch Times, host of the show American Thought Leaders. Jan's career has spanned academia, international human rights work, and now for almost two decades, media. He's interviewed nearly a thousand thought leaders on camera and specializes in long-form discussions challenging the grand narratives of our time. He's also an award-winning documentary filmmaker producing The Unseen Crisis, DeSantis, Florida vs. Lockdowns, and Finding Manny. And so very pleased to have Jan Jekielek on the line with me. Jan, welcome.
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I'm so happy to be here, Kim. Thank you.
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Well, and we're going to talk about a very serious subject, and that is a human organ harvesting that is happening in China. What should people know?
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We've heard about black market organ rings all over the world. There's some in North America even. And just what happens in China is a whole different level. We're talking about at scale forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience on demand. And let me break that down a little bit. So in an example, I'll use an example. And this is the, I first started to realize this was real. When there was a case back in 2005 where there was a man who needed an urgent heart transplant, he wasn't going to live. And, you know, in any civilized country, it takes sometimes years to get a transplant because you have to have, there has to be an accident and the person can't be completely dead. They have to be brain dead, body alive. And then the match has to work on the blood type and the size has to be right. And, you know, it's just... Whole series of actions that have to happen in order to get the right fit. And so you wait years and sometimes you won't make it because you can't get one. But in China, this guy had it organized within two weeks. And he even knew the date that it was going to be done. And he told his transplant surgeon about this. And the transplant surgeon said, this is absolutely impossible. Because the only way that you could know when it's going to happen is you'll know when that person will be dead. And the only way you could know he's going to be dead is if someone's making them that way. And so this opened up this whole world.
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Was this guy in America or was he in China?
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So this was actually an Israeli. Okay. And because there's this transplant tourism that's happened from all over the world, but actually because of this case, the guy who, the transplant surgeon, his name was Jacob Levy. And he had actually, he was a child of Holocaust survivors, if I'm not mistaken, and he actually campaigned hard over the next few years to create laws that would prevent the socialized medical system in Israel from paying for China transplants because he saw something grossly unethical was happening. Yeah.
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So, and you call this transplant tourism?
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Right. So it becomes transplant tourism when you go to another country, right, or, for example, to get an organ. So, yeah, the people that are getting these transplants, people sometimes, and to give you another sense, right, I know of a case, I know of one case in the early 2000s where someone got a new liver in three days. And I know of one case which is almost unfathomable, and I just learned about this from a German doctor who had been an explant surgeon, someone who would remove organs from people, and then there would be other teams that would transplant, where there was a woman in Germany who had a rare blood type AB, and she was a heavy drinker, so she had severe liver problems. And she was able to source a liver in China within six months for this very rare blood type and got it done. And then because she kept drinking, that liver failed. And she went and got another liver in China, again for the same rare blood type. And she actually did that three times. And this actually happened. You know, so it's hard to wrap our minds around that there could be a place where, you know, because they've taken over the years different groups. It started with the Falun Gong. I can explain that. And it looks like it's also shifted to the Uyghur population when you have large numbers of people incarcerated in a prison and labor camp system. And what you can do, and this is what they've done, you can blood type them and tissue type them ahead of time, create a database. And then, and this is the title of the book that I'm writing, you can actually kill to order, right? Which is why you can schedule the date and why you have these unbelievably short wait times. Because as soon as the cash comes through, as soon as the check gets cashed, You're basically in a situation where you can find the person and kill them to order. It's terrible. It's terrible and unfathomable almost.
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So it's money that's driving this, yes?
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So there's two things happening. Absolutely, money is a big deal. David Matus, who's one of the really big experts on this, he's been working on this for over 20 years. He estimates it's about a $9 billion a year industry. So that's obviously significant. But do you remember there was this Xi Jinping Putin hot mic a couple of weeks ago, right? And the way this goes down is, you know, Xi is telling Putin, you know, if you're seven years old, I'm paraphrasing just to make it quick, but if you're seven years old for us, you're just a baby, right? And then Putin says, well, through continual organ transplantation, we can perhaps even achieve immortality. And she says in response, so I'll probably 150 years will work. And that's actually that refers to this project, which the Chinese Communist Party has that is to to help people the elites of course not not not the common person get that longevity right of 150 years so basically what it means for if you're a chinese super elite is that there's seven million of those people in the country um you have unlimited access to organ transplants on demand forever So there's something more than a profit motive there, right? Because it's basically life in a way, longevity in a way that is inaccessible to most of us if you have no moral boundaries.
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Jan Jekielek, we've heard the stories of World War II and the experimental or experimentation on well twins by Hitler and I I'm sitting here thinking oh my gosh as I'm sitting here in America this is happening in 2025 and what can we do about it
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Well, let me just qualify. You're so on point, and I just want to sort of highlight how on point you are, right? They built this system. They were already killing some death row prisoners and things like this for people like that, for organs, experimenting with them as early as in the 1990s, okay? But then in 1999, there was this group called Falun Gong. They practiced truthfulness, compassion, forbearance, very popular, very grassroots. grew into a giant movement of 70 to 100 million people, bigger than the Communist Party. So the regime attacked them, kind of like in 89, the students were attacked. They were the group that became the enemy internally. This became the group that was the enemy internally. And that's when the Chinese transplant system explodes. OK, it grows almost exponentially for quite a number of years because and this is when they put millions into the forced labor camp system. And then because nobody and prisons and because nobody actually did anything about it, except the odd case. I gave you the example in Israel where they passed that law. There were a few examples of people trying to deal with it. Then there was you're probably aware that there's this ethnic minority in the northwest in China called the Uyghurs. Right. And they're actually and similarly in recent years, they've incarcerated millions of them. And we believe that this has shifted to them. And the U.S. officially calls that a genocide, by the way. And I would argue that what's happening against the Falun Gong and also the Tibetans could also qualify as that. But the point is, you're so on point. And the thing is, there's a lot of opportunity for these kinds of experiments, like you mentioned, right? So we don't actually... know what they're doing. I've been hearing stories and I haven't been able to verify this. I'm looking into it right now of actually, you know, sort of children being kind of farmed for this. I can't verify, but it's like, but again, when there's no moral boundaries, it's really, you know, only what you're capable of doing. What can we do to stop? So now I'm going to answer your question, okay? What can we do to stop it? It's also an unusually good time to act right now. And I'll explain why. One is there's a survivor of this, which I never thought we'd ever see. But there's actually a guy who survived getting part of his liver removed and part of his lung removed. And lived to tell the tale. And he was rescued by a former assistant secretary of state while he was still assistant secretary of state in Trump 45. And he lives in America. And that kind of blew the top off it a bit. There was a lot more media coverage last year around this. And that actually triggered a whole bunch of legislation. There's two federal pieces of legislation. One is called the Falun Gong Protection Act. Another one is called the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act. And there's a third one. And both of those are kind of they do sanctions against people who are involved in this. And they also do kind of reporting. And this actually makes a difference because a lot of these the Chinese elite super elites, they have exit strategies to America. America is the place everyone wants to go. You know, whatever we were kind of down on America a bit here. But for most of the rest of the world, it's a pretty fantastic place, especially for Chinese super elites when they have a kind of a crumbling system. They want to be able to have that exit strategy. If they're sanctioned, they won't be able to get it. So the point is, if we enact this legislation here, that will actually get a whole bunch of people who are involved in that system to stop. And that will save some lives for sure. Right. So there's ways we can actually make a difference right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
OK, we're going to continue the discussion with Jan Jekielek. He is a senior editor with the Epoch Times regarding the Chinese economy. and their forced human organ harvesting. These are really important discussions that we have. We have them because of our sponsors. And so totally appreciate Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins, who are the co-founders of the Second Syndicate.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation, the official marine memorials right here in Golden, Colorado. And Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation, and her team are doing amazing work taking care of the memorial as well as raising money for the new remodel. So support them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I'm talking with Jan Jekielek. He is a senior editor with the Epoch Times and host of the show American Thought Leaders. Jan, you said that there's some legislation, two pieces of legislation here in America that could start to address this forced human organ harvesting in America. China, it sure seems like that should be unanimous of our senators and congressmen and women to want to support this. What's the political landscape look like on this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Fantastic question. OK, so both of those two pieces of legislation actually passed the House. One found on protection act completely unanimously and the second one with one dissent. So it's really the kind of thing that once it gets to a vote, I don't think a lot of people are going to want to vote against it for obvious reasons. And a lot of people want to vote for it. So now it's actually in the Senate, both the Falun Gong Protection Act and the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act are in the Senate. And I would, you know, it's just a matter of getting it on the floor, I think. Right. And I mean, there's people that are much smarter than I am. I'm not a I'm not a political operator. Right. But but, you know, I think I think that people calling their their senators would make a huge difference to get this. I think that I particularly am interested in seeing the Falun Gong Protection Act passed. One is because it would be the first legislation that actually names the Falun Gong in legislation. You know, there's been sort of focuses on Tibetan persecution and Uyghur persecution. Certainly the Falun Gong deserve to be named as the kind of the largest group that's being suppressed. over there in very extreme ways, I might add. So I think that could make a huge difference personally. There is a third piece of legislation, by the way, which is something like what was done in Israel. Back in 2008, I think that legislation was passed. There's six states that have passed legislation that basically says Medicare and insurance can't pay for China transplants. And now there's a federal piece of legislation that's in committee that might get out onto the floor in the House. So there's actually three pieces of legislation that you could look at.
SPEAKER 15 :
When you say that, I want to say, well, duh, of course we shouldn't be doing that. But talking about the politics on this, I've watched politics enough that I think that I've become cynical. And you said, if it can get to a vote. So there are senators that obviously would not vote against this. But from a strategic standpoint, there might be influences to keep it from getting to the floor. And I know that sounds cynical, but I've seen that happen, Jan.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I would imagine, okay, the Chinese Communist Party, you know, unfortunately, Washington, D.C. is awash with CCP money, right? And when I say, by the way, the reason I separate the CCP and China, right, is because the Chinese Communist Party is is not the chinese people even though it wants everyone to believe that right um and chinese people a whole different picture you know there's there's a whole movement in china for example to quit the communist party there's over 450 million people that have So a pretty significant chunk of the population have actually done that privately. That's a whole different discussion we could have about how that's happening. But there's a lot of money, and I do think there's probably a lot of pressure to prevent this bill because once it's law, right, This is just something that nobody will ever want to admit to, right? And the way that the CCP, of course, says that this is all terrible propaganda against it and unfair. Now, the crazy part is that they didn't even have an organ donation system until 2015. We don't really believe they have a real organ donation system now, but they didn't even pretend to have an organ donation system until 2015. But there's another study that was done on their organ transplant numbers, which basically showed that the numbers were a perfect quadratic equation. In other words, it was they just invented the numbers. And there's a whole lot of reasons why. But basically, they've been used. They were using prisoners for, you know. decades, and then they just kept using prisoners as far as I'm concerned. But now they say that there's a system. Maybe it's tiny, but if it is, it's just a tiny component. And there's no way to do this on-demand stuff, of course, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
So are any of these intakes on these organs, is that surgery happening in the United States? Or do people have to go outside the United States to do this?
SPEAKER 06 :
You have to go to China, basically, because you can't translate an organ. The moment an organ is removed from a body. It starts to degrade and that actually happens really, really quickly. So you kind of need to be where the person who's being transplanted from is. But to give you another example, there's a paper in the American Journal of Transplantation from a few years back titled Execution by Organ Procurement. And in that paper, the researchers found that there's at least 70 examples of scientific research papers that are coming out of China where the dead donor rule is being violated. Basically, what's happening is the person is being killed by the process of the organs being extracted from them. And it's so normalized there, this is how I interpreted it, that they don't even notice and they write it into their scientific methods that they publish for the world to see.
SPEAKER 15 :
Do they use anesthesia?
SPEAKER 06 :
The answer is no. And the reason is because probably because it interferes with it can interfere with the organs taking hold. And again, you know, the people that are being used for these things have been dehumanized through horrible propaganda. You know, you made the connection to to the Third Reich. Right. It's the same kind of talking points. In fact, some of them are almost identical that were used to dehumanize the Jews in the 30s and the 40s. are used against all these different groups, whether it's the Uyghurs or the Falun Gong or Tibetans and so forth. Yeah, so these people are very heavily dehumanized in the eyes of the people that are doing this too, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and that's the thing about communism is that it puts people into groups instead of recognizing the beauty of the individual, which is that's the American idea is the sanctity of the individual. So when you put people into groups, you can demonize the group and you can do terrible things to groups. And that's why this big battle of ideas that is occurring in our country right now, where there are those that want to put people into groups instead of recognizing the inherent power. beauty of each and every individual is so important. So this is a big battle of ideas that's out there right now. Jan, this is fascinating and troubling. What's your final thought on this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I hope I want to encourage people if you're if you're into reading about this, I'm in the process of writing a book which outlines all of this and also how it's titled Kill to Order China's Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America's Biggest Adversary. I think if you want to really understand how the Chinese Communist Party works, this book will help you understand that through the lens of this horrible organ harvesting industry. That's coming out in February. It's available for pre-order on Amazon and other places. I saw even Target has it on pre-order, which is great to see. But anyway, that would be a start. And also, if you go, you can go to theepochtimes.com, right? That's our website. And I have a show there called American Thought Leaders. And we have a lot of, we cover this issue probably more than any other media.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow, this is so important. So important. So Jan Jekielek, thank you so much. And again, he's a senior editor with the Epoch Times. Let's stay in touch.
SPEAKER 06 :
I look forward to it, Kim. Thank you so much. This is a very thoughtful conversation. Really appreciate it.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And do check out the Center for American Values as well. They're located in Pueblo. They're nonpolitical. They're nonpartisan. They're focusing on these foundational principles of honor, integrity and patriotism. So be sure and check that out. On the line with me is Colorado Representative Ken DeGraff. And we talked with Joe Whitney in the first hour, was rooted in Littleton, and talked about how important it is that the people that we elect are representatives of the people instead of special interests. And as you all know, I'm president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we are putting the finishing touches on our ratings report, so it should be published probably by the end of the week. And what we look at is different legislation. In fact, we took positions on well over 260 pieces of legislation. And then we rate... legislators on that big amount of legislation. And for any legislator that gets 80% to 89%, they are noted as a cut guardian, a Colorado Union of Taxpayers guardian. And that means they're protecting the taxpayer and They're protecting property rights, parental choice, and TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And I'm very pleased to congratulate the legislator that we have on the line with us, Representative Ken DeGraff, as a cut guardian. Welcome, Representative DeGraff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you, Kim. CUT has been a tremendous, tremendous resource for us at the Capitol. And I couldn't agree more. The people need to support the candidates who are actually supporting the constitutional value, is what I'm finding. There is that the special interest, like you mentioned, the special interest, the special money, the special investors, they what they want is mediocrity. They want mediocrity. They want mediocrity. So it's dependent on those special interests. and what the what we need to do to get their big money out is we need to get little money in and so we need the individuals in colorado to to actually step up and displace that money so that we can get these candidates more of the candidates that will actually support these values because this is not going to be done by the big the big money that is supporting certain candidates
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and what I have seen is the consultant class, they're using the narrative of balance, that we want more balance down at the statehouse. And you're seeing that on both sides of the aisle. And actually, we're seeing that balance they're talking about is you mentioned mediocrity. I'm going to say even worse than mediocrity, because you said something over this Polly score. It's an AI impact analysis service. And, man, they really went after you, saying that you were – if you really look at it, though, you're not kowtowing to special interests. So a number of things here. The titles may sound good, but when you really look at it, it's bureaucrats, bureaucracies that are not getting the job done. There's a whole bunch of things regarding education. Representative DeGraff, our kids, throughout Colorado, there's school districts where kids are not reading and writing at proficient level. And there may be, on average, I would say, only 30% of our kids are hitting that benchmark. But there's school districts that are not even hitting that. But, man, they still want more money, more money, more money. And you voted no on those things.
SPEAKER 09 :
I did, Kim. And one of the things on that poly score, that AI that I sent over, the progressive one, that's kind of the antithesis of cut, is one thing is they look at, they just, they go by the bill title, apparently. And one of the things that people need to realize is when they're looking at legislation is what I call legislation 101 is what it says it is, it ain't. What the bill says it is. has very little to do with what is actually in the bill. So when they say, hey, this is a bill to help schools, it might have some part of that. But it's really something entirely different. So that score actually being a low score is, in my mind, good. But you'll see the Democrats score very high on that, where they'll score very low on yours. And you are right about balance, because these same special interests pay – They don't have any issue with paying on the Democrat side to have very radical leftist views, but then they want to pay on the Republican side. They contribute to the Republicans who are doing what they consider a – you know, a middle of the road, what they call a middle of the road, which is just where you get hit by cars from both ways. And, you know, in one sense, I mean, going back to your previous conversation about, you know, the horror of unanesthetized organ removal, we have that same thing in the United States with the fetal harvesting industry. So that the Democrats voted, they voted down even anesthetizing drugs unborn persons before they're subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. And so we have that same thing in this country. And what's gotten us to that same point is the search for mediocrity, to say that we want to be in the middle, we don't want to offend anybody, we don't want... And so the special interests fund very far left, and then they fund the Republican side too often to stay in the middle. And what that does is it gives the – it gives the – It gives the governor, really, it gives him a bipartisan cover, and he can claim bipartisanship with at least one Republican voting on the bill, and those special investors keep him in. What we need to do, we have a million Republicans. If the million Republicans gave $500 million specifically towards constitutional values, we'd have $500 million to support constitutional values. candidates, where instead we're clamped, we're scraping together to try to get special interest money. And that special interest, that special investor money comes with a level of guilty that is that that's keeping us from actually achieving our goals.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and with that, I'd really recommend that people support CUT as well, Colorado Union of Taxpayers. Absolutely. To join, it's only $25. And that's a year. That's about $2.08 a month. And you will be so informed. And let me just say thank you to that team. This is all volunteers. And that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson. Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. When you see these folks out there, say thank you and join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. So Representative DeGraff, unbelievable. 768 bills or resolutions were passed. introduced in the regular session, and then there was another, I think, 13 in the special session, which that was really just a pickpocket of a variety of things. But CUT took positions on 273 bills. And when you see the CUT report, It's not political. We have looked at these different bills through this lens of protecting property rights, protecting the taxpayer, protecting Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and parental rights. So when you see how these people are rated, it is just very informative. We're not into politics, and we really look at the issues, and I think it's important to understand that. So getting a rating as a cut guardian is a big deal representative to Graf.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you. And for the people out there listening, it is a good investment because it's a lot of extra sets of eyes. And you can see how much work it is to do 260 bills. And then when you consider that or 273 bills, when you consider that there's, in this case, 781 that were considered in that 100 days, it's pretty easy to see that government is being done to us, not for us. And the continual compromise is something that we need to stand up against, and that's going to take the individuals.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, absolutely. So when you see this AI-generated poly score and a candidate is getting unfavorable marks on it, you should probably say, ah, that means that they are standing up for the people and representing us. And we've not been paying attention. We've let this happen here in Colorado. I I know you are. I am working as well. We've got to reclaim this state, and we can do that. We've got a couple of minutes left, Representative DeGraff. What's your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'd like to... But that that self-governance is not a spectator sport. You know, we have we need everybody. We need boots on the ground. We need people. We need money and we need money in our coffers. And now that money needs to be invested smartly. It needs to. I'll be standing up a organ. I'm in the process of standing up an organization to support constitutional rights. focused candidates so that we're not reliant on a system of doling out. And there's a pro-family constitution that Brandy Bradley is working on. And those things are where you need to put your money if you want to have. But you do need to put your money. It's essentially... It's essentially a vote for the values, and people look at how much money is there, and they judge what candidates that they will attack and that they will consider vulnerable based on the money that's there. So if you like a constitutional candidate, it's going to take backing. One of the most valuable things can be, if you don't have the money to do it, is to get organized into the – the door-knocking campaigns and take that message directly to the people. But too often we have people that say, well, I'll give money when there are good candidates. And the special investors are never going to give you good candidates because they don't want your money. They want you to stay out of it. So you're going to have to invest outside of that, and you're going to have to displace the big money if you want to have that voice in politics.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, keep us in the loop as you're developing this representative to graph because this is very important. And we're out of time. How can people get more information about you?
SPEAKER 09 :
My website currently is TheGraphForColorado.com, D-E-G-R-A-A-F, the number for Colorado.com. Okay. And we're in the process of getting that more increasingly populated, and we'll have more on our 501.
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Okay. Thank you so much. And our quote for the end of the show is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He said this, There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our children. One of these is roots, and the other is wings. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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In this episode of America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson, we delve into the incredible life of Layla Morrison, a 98-year-old former Army nurse who shares her vivid recollections from World War II. Layla's story takes us from the peaceful mountains of Georgia to the front lines of Normandy, France, where she played a pivotal role in caring for wounded soldiers. Her firsthand accounts offer a poignant reminder of the courage and resilience shown by those who served. Join us as we explore Layla's remarkable journey through the challenges of war, her experiences with the Army Air Force, and the life-defining moments she encountered along the way. This episode not only provides a glimpse into the past but also emphasizes the importance of preserving these stories for future generations. Through heartfelt interviews and captivating narratives, Layla Morrison brings history to life, reminding us of the sacrifices made by our veterans and the freedoms we often take for granted. Tune in to hear her inspiring story and the lessons we can learn from history's giants.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and her other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you, and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Monson.
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Welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Monson, and be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. And this show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 that accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy, France, for the anniversary of the D-Day landings in World War II. and return stateside, realizing that each of our military, each veteran has their own story, and we need to hear them, we need to record them, we need to archive them, and hence America's Veterans Stories. And I want to say thank you to Tricia Hood. She is a sponsor on this show, and it is in honor of her husband, Donald Wood, who was a Vietnam veteran. We did a Thank you so much for having me. And she passed on just recently, July 16th, a week after her 100th birthday. And she's a real lady. And I thought, let's rebroadcast one of her shows. And Producer Steve, I'm just so honored to bring this to the air today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I think since you've been doing this, you actually interviewed her twice, at least two shows that made the air. And you gave me the dates for those and say, we want to use one of these for today's thing that we're doing here and now. And to me, it's like once I was going back through the archive to get him, it was like taking something that was precious off the shelf and making sure you treated it right.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it is a fabulous interview. And again, she was just really a lady. And I have to say, Steve, it is such an honor to sit across the table or on the other side of the phone line with these veterans. And I have to say, it's really changing my life. It gives me a great regard or respect for this American idea and those that have been willing to put their lives on the line. It is... It really has changed my life, Steve.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I get what you're saying. And, you know, in what we do the other five days of the week, recently you did a podcast with two individuals and you were kind of lamenting where the particular subject area you were dwelling on and how it just is so visibly marching towards. I don't even know what you call it anymore. It's just tyranny. Tyranny. It takes your breath away. So it makes you go back to. And people like this lady that we're going to hear from today, what they were doing was a direct assault on tyranny and pushing back, like we like to say. And I don't know, I have so much more respect for them.
SPEAKER 10 :
One of the things that she said during the interview is she said, we knew we were going to win, but yet she said we also knew, and I was asking her about the preparation for D-Day. She went onto the beaches 30 days after D-Day. She said, but we knew that there were going to be a lot of young guys that were going to lose their lives in doing so, but they did it anyway because They saw something bigger than just them. And that is why these stories are so important. So I just want you to really enjoy this interview with Layla Morrison, a true lady. And she's gone now, passed on. But we wanted to do this interview and rebroadcast it in honor of Layla Morrison. Here you go. Layla Morrison, welcome to the show. Thank you. It's very nice to be here. Well, you have quite a story. You are going to be 98 this year, right? I know I shouldn't share a woman's age, but I think that's pretty incredible.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I'm proud of that. That's fine, and you're correct. The 9th of July, I'll be 98.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, your life story is an amazing story. Let's talk a little bit about that. Where did you grow up, Layla Morrison?
SPEAKER 06 :
In Blue Ridge, Georgia, a nice little mountain town right up on the Tennessee North Coast. a beautiful area.
SPEAKER 10 :
And how old were you when or when did you hear that Pearl Harbor had been bombed?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I was in school, in Mercy School over in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And we heard that on the radio, of course.
SPEAKER 10 :
What went through your mind, Layla Morrison?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, first was unbelief. I just couldn't believe that an enemy would come in and bomb like that. How cruel. And there was no way I could even imagine the influence that would be on me. So what did you do then? When did you decide to get into the Army? Well, it was after we graduated. The armed forces took nurses. In fact, they were begging for them. But you had to be a graduate, and you had to have passed your state boards.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so when did you decide that you would join the Army?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we had a recruiter that came out and told us how badly they needed nurses overseas and, of course, here in the States. But he was from the Army, and, of course, he was trying to get people to volunteer for that. And he told us if we didn't volunteer that we may be drafted later on. And that would be an insult to the nursing profession. So you signed up? Yeah, we believed, and several of us volunteered for the Army Air Force.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, the Army Air Corps, excuse me. It is the Army Air Force. Like you see in 43, 44, it was Air Corps.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you have a pretty amazing story. Where did you go for basic training, and what did that look like, Layla Morrison?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that was right here in Denver. Coming from Georgia and thinking about way out west in Denver, Colorado just sounded very exciting. So we volunteered and asked if we could come to Larry Field here in Denver.
SPEAKER 10 :
And what was your basic training like? I imagine it was preparing for, you know, helping our soldiers in battle, yes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it was. And it was, I'll tell you, it was very different than any school that I'd ever been to before. And it was... It was nice to learn about it and learn about the Army. I didn't know anything about it, of course, before. But that was nice to learn it. And the only thing, the calisthenics was sort of different for us. And learning the cadence, you know. And we had a sergeant teaching us, and I think he figured we were quite a problem. But we finished and all passed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Where did you go after basic training then, Layla Morrison?
SPEAKER 06 :
I went to Keesler Field, Mississippi. That's a field still in existence down at Biloxi, Mississippi. And we were there for a few months with more training, of course.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And getting used to the routine of Army hospitals.
SPEAKER 10 :
So then when did you end up being shipped off to Europe?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, from Keesler Field I went to Santa Ana Army Air Base in Santa Ana, California, and we learned more there. But we were just there a short time because they picked 16 of us and transferred us to the ground forces. but it was a big Army camp with the ground forces. And we learned a lot there, a lot. We were suspicious that we were going overseas. We didn't know which direction, but we learned a lot. We had learned about the gas mask, when to put it on and how. a gas bomb and then we learned how to live in a tent which we did the whole time we were across Europe our hospital was in tents and we didn't have to pitch the tents the GI's did that but we had to learn how to live in one and work in one And we learned how to abandon the ship by going over the side with a rope ladder. It's a rope that was made in squares, and you swung from one to the other with taking turns with your hands to swing down the side. And for a smaller boat, this was the side of the ship you would be going into a boat.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. So, wow. So then is that from there, is that where you went then to Europe? Yes. Okay. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
We went, we crossed the Atlantic and landed in Scotland, went on down to northern England, and then eventually on down to New Hampton, which is down on the, And across and landed. Well, we didn't really land. We couldn't land in France on the Omaha beachhead because it was too full of mines and sunken ships. So that's when we used the rope ladder to swing off of the side of the ship. little boat that opened up in the front and went up on the beach and opened. You know, the front falls down and you walk out.
SPEAKER 10 :
That sounds like a Higgins landing craft, isn't it? Was it a Higgins landing craft?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. So you are in England and so you're watching all of this preparation for D-Day with our guys, correct, Layla?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yes, the Air Corps was stationed in the U.S. You know, they flew across the channel. And there were a lot of Americans, a lot of, seemed like everything, crazy. because they were very nice to us very considerate and we were told if we were there and were invited out for tea it was alright for us to go into the home while we were there just a few days but not to accept the crumpet because the British suffered greatly from So not to take their food.
SPEAKER 10 :
So not to take their food then, right, Layla?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, because they were short of food.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, okay, okay. Okay, so June 6, 1944, do you remember that morning, Layla Morrison? You mean of going across the channel? Well, when the guys, when D-Day started. Oh, of course.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think the whole. But yes, we knew about it, and we were saying prayers because we knew how it was going to go. We knew we'd win, but many, many young, very young men paid with their life to make it possible.
SPEAKER 10 :
So during that time, it was, what, about 30 days before you then went over to Normandy. Is that right, Layla?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, somewhere along there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. So here you are, this young Army nurse that's going into Normandy, France, with basically just, you know, what you have in a bag, right? That's it, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, we had what we called a duffel bag, and that was all of our supplies. But it wasn't as bad as it sounds because, see, we went right down and joined our hospital unit, which was 118th evacuation, and we wore combat clothes all the time. Army dress clothes. We just had one outfit, the same, several outfits, but the same. All of it was combat, and even the combat boots that the fellas wore. Ours were just like them.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. And so when you got to Normandy, where did you go after that then, Layla Morrison?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we were in Normandy. And there was a truck, two and a half ton trucks is the way we traveled. And that's the way we were that way all over England and all over Europe. There were 20 of us. And the doctors traveled in the two-night-time truck. And we started out there in northern France off of the Omaha Beach. And we ended up almost a year later down on the Czech border. And see, we were a mobile unit. We didn't stay in. As they moved forward, and we only fell back twice. Two times we crossed the line because we had orders to go over. So when we crossed the line, they said, oh, no, we're not situated here yet. So you go back, wait a few days, which we did.
SPEAKER 10 :
How far back from the front lines were you normally?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I don't, I can't really say any. I don't really know except that we heard the, we could hear the guns, the hack-hack. And the Germans had a big gun that was called the 88. And it made such a big noise that when one of them went off, the roof of our tent would go poof. that the roof was going to blow off, but it never did.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Layla Morrison, we're going to go to break. We're going to continue this conversation. But before we do that, I want to say thank you to one of my valued partners and a sponsor that I greatly appreciate for America's Veterans Stories is Hooters Restaurants. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora on Parker Road, and great specials Monday through Friday for lunch. And for happy hour, great place to get together with your friends to watch the sporting events and just have some great food. In particular, their fish and chips and their nachos are delicious. I hear that their fish tacos are quite good as well. So again, thank you to Hooters Restaurants for their sponsorship of the show. Be right back.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you so much for listening to America's Veterans Stories. We are rebroadcasting some of the shows that we have recorded in the past because we have these amazing guests and these amazing stories, and we need to hear them. And so we thought that it would be a great idea to rebroadcast some of these so that you can hear our history and know our history because it is so important. So again, this is something that was recorded earlier, and thank you for listening.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Monson. I'm thrilled and honored to have on the line with me Layla Morrison. She will be 98 years old this July. She was an Army nurse in World War II and one of the most gracious women I've ever had the opportunity to talk with. So Layla Morrison, it's so great to have you on the show. Well, thank you very much. It's great for me to be here and tell my story. Well, let's continue on. You have explained that you are not far from the front lines. And so what was a typical day like for you and your other Army nurses, Layla Morrison?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, if you can imagine... You see, our hospital unit was like a big emergency room, only it was in tents. And we only took care of the one. go back. If he thought they would live that long, he'd send them back. But the ones that he didn't think would make it, he sent back to the tent behind him. And that was shock and pre-op. And that was the tent where I worked. And we tried to stop hemorrhaging can't go to surgery in shock so we tried to bring him out of that and we gave him at that time there was no way to preserve whole blood you see that was back in the early 40s the next best thing was plasma blood plasma and we gave many many many units of that
SPEAKER 10 :
So how many hours a day did you normally work?
SPEAKER 06 :
In the middle of a war, there's not much to do except work and then rest. So we worked at least 12 hours. And, you know, we had an abundance of patients that maybe we didn't expect those of us that were asleep.
SPEAKER 10 :
work well it was all work and sleep and moving we moved often and moving so that's wow um and wasn't the um the army was moving pretty quickly through europe at that time wasn't it yes yes uh it
SPEAKER 06 :
And as the months passed, we were down on the We were supposed to meet them there, and that was in May of 1944. And so while we were there waiting for the Russians, they came, but they were late. And it was just a few days after that, the DE Day, victory in Europe. And we all rejoiced, very thankful.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, a couple of things. You met your husband sometime in this whole time. Tell us a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's kind of a story all of its own. We met in Caboo, Texas, and he was with the Patton's Third Army in the 30s. They were going across Europe, too. And we did see, he knew which hospital near the driver's room. And we had a little sign we put out in front of the first tent on the number of our hospital. And he would see that name. with a bunch of them, and he would stop and say hello. He didn't have time, and I didn't either, to have a conversation. But he just... And it was nice. And he wanted to be married. We could get a three-day pass and go back to Paris or one of the other countries that had already been liberated. But I didn't want to, and I told him I wouldn't marry until the life of the war was over. Well, to finish this story, we were both housed with General Hodge, the 1st Army, but we were traveling along together with the 3rd. And they told us while we were down there in Czechoslovakia after VE Day that we were seasoned troops and we would be the 1st. And we received 30 more days of training, and then we'd be shipped out to Japan, one of the islands on the invasion of Japan. And they estimated the casualties at a million and a half at that time.
SPEAKER 10 :
A million and a half casualties for trying to take Japan? I'll say that again. You said they estimated that the casualties would be one and a half million? Yes. Oh, my gosh. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, they did. Wow. But we, my unit, all the nurses and the doctors, too, really, we hated to leave the good old U.S. again. And, of course, that would have been so different, jumping from island to island, I'm assuming. But they were going in on... And we teased each other and said, let's cut our finger or do some little something so we won't have to go. But we were teasing. All of us. We would have gone, but the chaps... Wow. We couldn't believe it, but they did. And you see, they didn't celebrate D.E. Day in the U.S. at the time in May because we were still at war. And so they said, we won't celebrate until the Japanese surrender. two days, which happened while we had just been home a couple of weeks. And so my husband-to-be wanted to meet. He was from Nebraska, the big red state, and he wanted to meet in Chicago. So We met him, and he wouldn't take no for an answer. He said, you promised, you promised. You said as soon as the war was over. So he managed to get a marriage license, and at that time you had to have a Wasserman test in order to, the 17th of August in 1945.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did your sisters like him? Was that the first time they had met him?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, no. We had met, you know, in Texas and Europe.
SPEAKER 10 :
But your sisters, had your sisters met him?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, no. No, no. They had and one was not in favor. And so my husband was the type that didn't take no for an answer very easily, and he worked very hard to get it done. But the marriage lasted 65 years, and we have three children and grandchildren and some great-grandchildren. A husband... Nine years ago. And that's when I moved out here because I have a son and two grandsons and great-grandchildren here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. And where did you live those 65 years then, Layla Morrison?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we started out in Texas. very long, a few months, and my husband had an opportunity to have a job offered to him up in Council Bluffs, Iowa. That's just across the river from Omaha, Nebraska. And so we moved up there, and he worked for that car dealership. And He didn't like, he didn't enjoy that very much. And the radio station in Denison, Iowa was for sale, which is about 70 miles from Omaha. And so he bought that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow, what an amazing life. That's great. And it's so exciting that you're here in Colorado. We were introduced by Brad Hoops, you know, who's done so much great work for our veterans. He's interviewed so many. Yes, he is. He truly is. And with that, Layla Morrison, you received an award from the French government. Tell our listeners about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Well, that was a year ago, the 2nd of February 2019. And there were, I was the only woman, but there were five other veterans who were men. And we all received it here in Windsor. LA, he flew back and presented the medals. And we were all just very proud. As I received mine, I felt that I really didn't deserve it because so many of them had worked We were there to save lives, and that's what we did. And I did that to the best of my ability, and I do believe that we did save lives. shot down and taken prisoners, different jobs. Two were tail gunners, and not too many tail gunners made it home, but they did. And so it was And Brad worked very hard to secure those medals for us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, he did. Yes, he did. I'm very proud of him. Most definitely. Layla Morrison, let's go to break. We have one more segment. This is Kim Monson and America's Veterans Stories. I'm talking with Layla Morrison, an Army nurse in World War II. So we're going to go to break. We will be right back. The Center for American Values is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And it was founded for several reasons. One, to honor our Medal of Honor recipients. And they do that through over 160 portraits of valor of Medal of Honor recipients. But additionally... They are teaching these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism through many of their educational programs and also their On Values presentations. So for more information about the center, go to AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. The official Marine Memorial is located right here in Colorado in Golden at 6th and Colfax. It was dedicated in 1977, and it is time for a facelift. And the USMC Memorial Foundation is working diligently to raise the funds to make that happen. And a great way that you can honor our military, to say thank you to those people who have put their lives on the line or have given their lives for our freedom, is to support the USMC Memorial Foundation.
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Thank you so much for listening to America's Veterans Stories. We are rebroadcasting some of the shows that we have recorded in the past because we have these amazing guests and these amazing stories, and we need to hear them. And so we thought that it would be a great idea to rebroadcast some of these so that you can hear our history and know our history because it is so important. So again, this is something that was recorded earlier, and thank you for listening. Thank you so much for listening to America's Veterans Stories. We are rebroadcasting some of the shows that we have recorded in the past because we have these amazing guests and these amazing stories, and we need to hear them. And so we thought that it would be a great idea to rebroadcast some of these so that you can hear our history and know our history because it is so important. So again, this is something that was recorded earlier, and thank you for listening. Welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Monson. And as many of you know, this show precipitated from a trip. that took four D-Day veterans back to Normandy, returned back to the States, realizing that each veteran has a story. It's unique, and it was important that you get to hear them. And so on the line with me is Layla Morrison, World War II veteran, an Army nurse that was right behind the front lines working to save lives. Layla Morrison, it's so good to get to chat with you. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here with you. Now, as the war was winding down and you were so near the front lines, you had told a story to me previously that kind of took my breath away regarding some of the prisoner camps there. Could you share that with our listeners, please? Sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, we had prisoners, even as patients. Very, very few, really. But we saw many, many of them, well, just from all over, because coming back, we were we had a prisoner as a patient, we treated them just like we treated our own boys. And we figured that it wasn't their will to be there. A lot of them didn't believe in the Nazi party, but they had to take part. And so, but we... We work mostly with our American prisoners.
SPEAKER 10 :
But we treated these prisoners, to your knowledge, very well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Well, they were hurt and they had a lot of...
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Okay. Now, what about the concentration camps? Did you have any experience with that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, we did. We had a lot of conversations with prisoners. after they had been liberated and they told us many, many stories. It was stories that you knew they were telling you the truth, but it was so hard to believe. It still makes chills go over me when I think of some of them. And we were on our way home. and pitch our tents. And we came up by Weimar, Germany. And we didn't realize it, but we camped on a little hill in Florida, and they came up and told us that Buchenwald was right across the street from us. and we were trying to get settled for the evening. And they came later and said, now you girls get to bed early tonight because you're going to have to get up early in the morning because the nurses and the doctors have to go down to Bougainville and help out. next morning. And as they came up to pick us up, they said, you girls are not going, so relax. We said, well, what's going on, you know? So they said, well, They have to wait until tomorrow. So that's what we did. And tomorrow came and they picked us up in our two-night-done truck and took us down there. And we met a Czechoslovakian man that had been One day the troops came in and told them that he was going with them. And he couldn't call. He couldn't tell anybody. They just took him. And he didn't know if his wife was alive or his shooter or where they were. He'd been brought to Bugendahl. And he took us all through the camp. the crematory. Down underneath, you know, they had ice quarters down there where the German troops lived. And as we came out of the crematory, thing to take to realize and the people that had gone through the torment there telling you about it and you knew it was the truth and I just looked at it as we came out and I thought what in the world would you call a place like this And I figured I'd call it a factory of murder because they told us how many six and a half million Jews and German political prisoners they had taken care of. And this cremator had 12 of them. like fixed on the bottom and then it was fixed on the top. They had a big wall there where they had stored a lot of ashes and had them in bottles. I don't know what they planned to do with them. But anyway, I hope we never have anything like that ever again. for those boys that sold millions, that lost their lives and what they went through. And I have met with two people over at Colorado State that came here to And one had been a prisoner there at Buchenwald, and the other one was on down close to Poland. And they told about their experience there and how they were blessed to even be alive. But it's hard to believe it still is. And I think of the price that our country, our people... of living now. How thankful we are. can just imagine and be thankful.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you know, it really is something that I think that we take for granted, particularly what your generation did to stand against tyranny and evil. And you saw firsthand what it did. And, you know, one of the things that you wanted to make sure that people understood was just how thankful and grateful we should be every day for the freedoms that we have here in America.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, indeed. And, you know, you can't blame people, especially Americans, for taking it for granted because they've never known or never, a lot of them have never even heard of such treatment. And, you know, to see it firsthand, you just don't ever forget it. It changes your whole life.
SPEAKER 10 :
It definitely gives a different perspective.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. And I recently, in June of 19, went back to Normandy with a group of... There were 14 of us, 13 men. We went back for the 60... I mean... the 75th little tired yeah the 75th anniversary of the e-day there i know of a e-day there at normandy and what a what a deal that was it was great to be able to be there see all the after 75 years. And meeting the French people that have not forgotten. They thanked us and thanked us over and over for not only saving many French lives, but for saving their country. And they're teaching the children who've been through two and little children, and they knew all about the war and told us, thank you, thank you. They had learned that in English, and, of course, we... People up there in northern France, they really couldn't. They're respectful, and they'd stand back when they'd see us. Of course, we had our World War II caps on, and they stood in line as far as you could see for our autograph on some cards that they gave us with a little history of each one of us.
SPEAKER 10 :
And Layla, when I was there in 2016, traveling with four D-Day veterans, I saw the same thing. The people of Western Europe, Normandy, France, they stood in line and they, you know, was thanking all of you for... And you mentioned something that is so curious to me that's going on here in the United States, and that is that our young people are not being taught about what happened in World War II. I was at a junior high school making a presentation and was telling them a little bit about this. And I said, how many of you have heard of Normandy and D-Day? And not one student raised their hand. And I said, how about the movie Saving Private Ryan, which is a movie about storming Omaha Beach? And nobody raised their hand. And so that's why we do this show. And I know that it, you know, it's an effort to have a long conversation about this. But Layla Morrison, I'm just so thrilled that we have this for people to listen to and for kids, for people to share with their children. So thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you and thank you because like I say, I'm thankful to... A few people I think it wouldn't be worth it because it's not easy to go through it again. You know, it's just so real to you and still is that it takes a lot of energy to tell about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know that it really does. And just so just a couple of other things. Recently, you were honored at an avalanche game. And I think Brad sent me something over on that. And so tell our listeners a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I'll tell you, I don't know much about hockey, but I know it's fast and it's rough. But I was so excited. After I'd been there a few minutes, the arena was full of people, and they were awesome. And they just showed all kinds of respect and honor that they possibly could. And I'll just always thank them for the privilege of being there because I had to leave early to get there. was very very respectful couldn't have been any nicer and it was a real thrill for me and i just thank everyone that had something to do with it well layla morrison this has just been a great honor to have this conversation thank you so much i just greatly appreciate it Thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thank you, Layla. And so this is Kim Monson signing off with America's Veterans Stories. God bless you and God bless America.
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I want to focus on the word darkness this morning because you may be like me, waking up early before the sun comes up while it's still dark. I do that generally every morning it's still dark. As I sip on my coffee and look at the news, I watch the light slowly emerge until the darkness is no longer there. The word darkness in the New Testament is the Greek word skotia, S-K-O-T-I-A, skotia. That's the English word darkness. It's primarily used metaphorically to describe wickedness and sinfulness living in this world. Our Lord invites all people to walk in his light, his love and righteousness and justice instead of their own state of darkness. In John 8, 12, then spoke Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world. He that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. That's a guiding light in their life to guide them through life, orienting to the justice and the righteousness and the love of God. But I want to remind you that any individual who has hatred in his heart, and you've seen this politically lately, assassinations due to hatred, any individual who has hatred in his heart may actually think they are enlightened, but in reality, They're deceived and even blinded. That's what political persuasions do. Listen to 1 John 2, 9. He that saith he's in the light and hates his brother is in darkness even until now. In 1 John 2, 11, but he that hateth his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness and knoweth not whether he goeth because that darkness has blinded his eyes, which simply means has caused him to stumble. That passage written by John says he walketh in darkness. The word walketh is the Greek word peripateo, peripateo, and it literally means has a lifestyle of darkness. So there's nothing worse than an individual so full of hate that he cannot even see what he's doing because his thinking is blinded by his own emotions, which means he's not thinking at all, but he's acting on the emotions of hatred and often revenge motivation. This way of thinking is exactly the opposite of what we as Christians are called to do. Listen to Matthew 5, 44. But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you. How about that? There are four distinct commands there. Love your enemies. Love. There are four Greek words for love in the Bible. Eros is one of them. We get the word erotic from it. Philos is another one. We get the word Philadelphia from it. And agape or agapao is another one. And what this word is, is agapao, love your enemies. This is exactly what God did for you. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Your job as a Christian is to agapao those who hate you. And bless them that curse you, that verse says. The word bless, interesting word there. It means to speak well of. Do not degrade them, do not run them down. Do not curse them, but bless them. Bless the ones that curse you. And just because they call you names and curse you doesn't give you the right to call them a name and curse them. So we have two mandates, love them, bless them, and then we have do good to them that hate you. That means don't take revenge on them, don't seek to get even with them. And then pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you. Pray for them. How about that? What are you praying for? Well, you're praying that God, the Holy Spirit, would give them some information so they would see exactly what they're doing. You can't ask for them to be saved until they're ready to do it. You can pray for them to have the information and pray for them to hear the gospel, pray for them to respond to it, but God's gonna give each person their own volition, their own privacy. As a man seeketh so it be, the Bible teaches us that. And so you can pray for them to be exposed to the truth and to respond to the truth. So the people that despitefully hate me, that despitefully persecute me, They're my enemies. I'm to love them. I'm not to speak bad about them, not to degrade them. I'm not to take revenge on them, and I'm to pray for them. It's all right there in Matthew 5, 44. Underline it in your Bible because you may have people that hate you and say nasty things about you, and you may wonder, well, what should I do about that? There it is right there. Paul wrote in the letter to the church at Ephesus that he did not want believers to live like Gentiles lived since Gentiles had garbage in their mind, a vacuum in their mind. Literally, their minds sucked in garbage. And here's what he said. He said in Ephesians 4, their understanding is darkened. There's that word darkened again, darken, skotizo. And it means that his spiritual condition is darkened. He's deprived of light. He doesn't see the way. He doesn't understand the truth. Unfortunately, a lost person cannot see his spiritual condition darkened. unless, and I say unless, the Holy Spirit convicts them of sin and of unrighteousness. The Bible teaches that in Romans 1.21. And the scriptures tell us that arrogance and ignorance produce a heart that is darkened, which is literally a person who has an inability to recognize his spiritual condition. It's at this point that the Holy Spirit can shine the light of the gospel into their thinking in order that they may believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. So it's here that you must realize it's you who the Holy Spirit would use to bring that light to them. Consider they're walking in darkness in the woods and they're lost and you have a spotlight and you go into the woods to find them and you bring them light. The light you're bringing is in your soul and it's generated by the Lord Jesus Christ who lives in you. And it's the light of love, it's the light of forgiveness. That's what the lost man responds to. He's not interested in your political affiliation. That's not the power that God uses to convict and convince and change anybody. The power is found in Romans 1.16. For I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it, it, it is the power of God unto salvation. to everyone that believes it, to the Jew first, also to the Greek. The greatest light you possess and I possess is the gospel, the death, burial, and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, what he provided on that cross and what he generated and proved with his resurrection. So your power to dispel darkness and sin and unbelief, what is my power? It's the gospel. It's my power to dispel darkness, the darkness of sin, the darkness of unbelief. The gospel can dispel it. You know why people love darkness? It's because their deeds and actions are evil. In John 3, 19, this is the condemnation that light has come into the world and men love darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. Sin and unbelief hide under the cover of darkness. They do. And that darkness is simply a void of truth. And you know, Satan is in the darkness business. He doesn't want you to give truth to anyone. He doesn't want you to light anyone's path up. If he can keep you from doing that, listen to Proverbs 29, 18, where there's no revelation from God, the people perish. So that's exactly what Satan wants to do, shut you down so you don't shine the light of the gospel into the heart of any lost person. My salvation and your salvation was a direct result of God's grace enlightening us. You want to hear it? 2 Corinthians 4, 6. For God who commanded the light to shine out of the darkness has shined in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. That is the direct result of God's grace enlightening me and enlightening you. I'm going to read it one more time. 2 Corinthians 4, 6. For God... That's who did it. Who commanded the light to shine out of the darkness. That's what you and I were walking in. Have shined into our hearts. That's our mentality. To give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. The light of the knowledge. That's what I told you. It's your mentality. It's your thinking. It's your understanding. You've been an unbeliever. You've become a believer. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Bible says, and thou shalt be saved. In Colossians 1.13, again, God does it. Who has delivered us from the power of darkness and has translated us into the kingdom of his dear son. How did he deliver us from the power of darkness? By faith alone in Christ alone. By the power of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Our lifestyle after we believe in Christ is to avoid that darkness and also to expose it whenever we can. In Ephesians 5.11, the Bible says, have no fellowship with the unfruitful work of darkness, but rather reprove it. So stay away from it. If you know people that are unbelievers, and they live in darkness, and they walk in darkness, and their whole way of thinking is darkness, stay out of it. Stay away from it. Don't go into partnership with them. Don't get any kinship with them. Reprove them. What does that mean? Shine the light. Shine the light. Give them the gospel. Tell them about the Lord Jesus Christ. If they reject it, that's on them, not on you. You know, the devil has many mouthpieces. It's interesting. Even religious leaders who deceive individuals and their judgment is going to be darkness forever. In 2 Peter 2, verse 1, but there were false prophets also among the people. even as there shall be false teachers among you. Now that's today. People who privately bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them and bringing upon them their own self swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways, their destructive ways, by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. These are religious people, false prophets, people that have pulpits, and they will be teaching false information, damnable heresies. I wish I could read some letters to you that I get from people that go to churches where this very thing happens. Listen to verse three of 2 Peter 2. And through covetousness, shall they with fainted words make merchandise of you, whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbereth not. They make merchandise of you through covetousness, a desire to hoodwink you, a desire to make money off of you. Make merchandise of you. It's interesting that the scriptures say they make merchandise of you. I see many ministries on social media selling material, selling hats, selling T-shirts, selling books, selling their music. People go to speak at a local church and they set up a display table selling all their merchandise. They all believe it's okay to sell materials to Christians in order to finance their ministry. It is not okay. That is not what you're called to do. If you have T-shirts and hats and books, give them away. Don't sell them. You're not there to sell things. You're there to give the light of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. And it says in this passage, many will follow their pernicious ways. They will have a harmful effect on them. Many will follow it. False prophets. So what your job as a believer is not to sell anything, but rather to give something. And that something is the light of the gift of eternal light. Romans 6, 23, for the wages of sin is death, but the gift, gift that's free, it doesn't cost anything, the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. God doesn't ask you to buy a T-shirt and wear it and say, I'm saved, I bought this T-shirt, God's selling T-shirts, God's selling hats, I'm a saved person, I'm wearing a hat now. Don't do it. The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life because of through Jesus Christ our Lord. Now the Bible tells us to beware of the canine clergy. Say, who is that? Well, in Matthew 10, 16, behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. There it is, right there. Sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and as harmless as a dove. You know, the wolves love to operate under the cover of darkness, which means you will not be able to recognize their devious assault. Satan himself is sometimes compared to a roaring lion, which is literally someone who can destroy you. The reason he would seek to destroy and maim you is because you have the light, which is literally the keys to eternal life. As a member of God's royal family, your job is to be an ambassador for the Lord Jesus Christ. In 2 Corinthians 5, 20, now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by means of us. In other words, God is using us to come to you. And we pray you in Christ's name be reconciled to God. Now, there's only one way that an individual can be reconciled to God, and that is through the work of the Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 5.18, and all things are of God who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ and has given to us the ministry of reconciliation. Did you hear that? All things are of God who reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ. You don't reconcile yourself to God. It's impossible to do that. There are none that are righteous. No, not one. The Bible's clear about that. All of your good works are like a filthy rag in God's eyes. If you think you're reconciling yourself to God because you're being a good boy and you don't cuss and you don't drink and you don't smoke and you don't do this and you don't do that, you're kidding yourself. reconciled us to himself by means of Jesus Christ's death and burial and resurrection. And our job is to have the ministry of reconciliation ourselves to spread that light. Our ministry is to seek and save those that are lost in Luke 19.10. For the Son of Man has come to seek and save that which was lost. Let me give you an illustration. I remember a deer hunting experience that I'd like to share with you. Deer hunting requires preparation, scouting for a good location, where you have a chance of seeing the game. In this particular case, I had scouted and secured a location to erect my deer stand. Having arrived well before daylight, in the darkness, I settled in, waiting the opportunity to harvest the game. Shortly after daylight, another hunter came walking into my area, spooking any game that might have been close. When I spoke loudly to him, hey, hey, hey, all the while 20 feet up a tree stand, he was startled. He had wandered in before daylight and he was lost trying to find his way back. The only problem was he was going in the wrong direction, lost and did not even know it. It's a good thing I was able to point him in the right direction from 20 feet up, I could see where his truck was and he couldn't. Unbelievers are lost. Fortunately for them, you have the light which can point them in the right direction, which is always to the cross of Calvary. Excuse me. The advantage we have is that we have a GPS system provided by God. You know, we use a GPS on our telephones, on our mapping. But God's protocol system, GPS, God's protocol system, is an eternal light that comes from the Holy Spirit and from the Word of God that gives us an advantage over over any lost person who wanders around in darkness. The non-Christian, the unbeliever, has only two choices. He can buy into what Satan is selling, which is his own roadmap to happiness, or he can buy into human viewpoint rationale based on the testimony of some friend or marketeer who's trying to sell the latest book on how to be successful. Satan will sell you a roadmap in a minute, and it will take you in the wrong direction. Or this marketeer will sell you his book in a minute and tell you how to be successful. It has nothing to do with the plan of God. You know something that's even worse? Even sadder are those believers who've lost their way having been given the wrong direction. Christian life requires perfect execution. So we're not allowed to make up our own rules. So many are not taught how to live the spiritual life. That's why we wrote that book, The Christian Spiritual Life. They haven't been taught that. And the results are usually devastating. Why? Because they substitute emotion for spiritual growth. And they eventually misrepresent the way to salvation. They cause error in the gospel message. You know, public altar calls telling individuals they must come forward to be saved. They must repent of their sins in order to be saved. That's just two examples of misrepresenting God and His plan. I remember when I accepted Christ as my Savior. I was 22 years old, and I was with a lot of people who were enthusiastic about God. Unfortunately, many of those whom were enjoying that emotional high were nowhere to be found five years down the road. In my case, I was very fortunate because I got under the ministry of a great teaching pastor who equipped me to serve the Lord based on the content of Scripture in my soul, hopefully making me a mature spiritual believer. Now, it's possible that you're hearing me say things that buck the modern trend of religious revivals. I want you to know if there's ever going to be a true revival of faith, we have to start with faith alone and Christ alone. But then we must insist that those new people converts, those new believers, get into a Bible teaching church where they can learn how to execute God's protocol plan. I promise you, spiritual growth is not easy. I want to say that one more time. Spiritual growth is not easy. It requires daily decisions to stay filled with the Holy Spirit and daily decisions to listen to the teaching of God's word. Salvation, on the other hand, requires only one decision, one moment in time, one simple decision, because all the work was done for you when Christ took your place on the cross. But if you want to grow spiritually, you're going to do that on your own. Christ can't do that for you. So it requires you to do what the Bible says. Study to show yourself approved unto God. A workman that needeth not to be ashamed, but rightly dividing the truth. Or to grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That's a daily commandment. Spiritual growth is not easy. You have to make that decision every day to stay in the Word. You have to make that decision every day to rebound when you know you've sinned, to confess your sin and get back in fellowship and not quench and grieve the Holy Spirit. All the work was done for you in salvation, yes, but all the work was not done for you in spiritual growth. So what about it? What do you think about that? If you really want your light to shine brightly, if you really want your light to effectively lead other people to the Lord Jesus Christ, And you're going to have to do the hard part, which is obedience daily in order to grow in grace and represent the Lord Jesus Christ. So my question to you is, do you have that sort of hunger? I have spoken to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people. And I have seen thousands that don't have that hunger. They love God. They say, oh, I love God. Yes, I do. But they don't have the hunger to get in the Word and grow. They don't have the hunger to find a well-qualified pastor they can study under because it's not convenient to them. And they easily get swept away in the details of life, such as children, sports, enthusiasm, job, hobbies, whatever. And they wander off down the my way highway. They'll be in heaven. They'll have eternal life. But they'll never be able to shine a light of the glory of God into the life of any unbeliever because they're out of fellowship most of the time and they quench the Holy Spirit. Their prayer life's not even effective. Not even effective. You know, people say, pray, pray, brother, pray. Don't forget the Bible said, if I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me. There's a right way to pray and a wrong way to pray. So much to consider. But we have to understand our job is to bring light into the dark world. The darkness, the scotia. That's our job, to grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and to bring light into this dark world. Man, I hope you're listening. I hope you're hungry. I hope you want to grow. I hope you want to be that believer God's expecting you to be so your light can shine brightly into the darkness of Satan's world. Okay? All right. 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In today's episode, journey with us through the heart of Florida as we unravel some of the most outrageous tales of the notorious Florida Man. From thefts gone wrong to bizarre acts of rebellion, these stories are as puzzling as they are entertaining. We then shift gears to discuss the controversial judicial decisions surrounding Nicholas Roski, offering a deep dive into the implications of identity politics in sentencing decisions. Join us as we dissect the nuances and legal maneuverings that caught the nation's attention.
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Oh, Florida Man. When Florida Man is like the most decent person lately, I don't know. A Florida woman stole from clients while working as a maid and even sent money to herself through Venmo, say deputies. Oh, my goodness. So I'm just going to say she looks like she's had a rough life, King. She looks like she's had a little. Why did this? Here it is. This Florida woman, Kayla Connor, Flager County. Oh, wow. She's only 38. Do you see that? Hard living. She is accused of fraud, theft related crimes, pickpocketing. She has been stealing and stealing from people 65 years age or older. All kinds of stuff. She ended up being charged. She said apparently she was stealing identification debit cards from like elderly widows. How horrible is this? And also taking checkbooks from widowers, et cetera, and trying to write bad checks, things like that with their with their checkbooks. And she ended up getting she ended up getting caught. She's going to go to jail for a while. You got to be careful of the people that you work with. Really? There is a woman. Let's see. I want a really good one. That's not too bad. This lady would she was accused of helping to steal 12 rental car cars while she worked at a rental center and the story here this is in fort lauderdale 24 year old woman she worked with three other men to steal this sounds like fast and furious slow and angry this is what it's called so 12 cars from her she was working secure she was working as security security security It was the Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport's car rental center, Savannah Phillips. She was arraigned on 13 felony charges related to a dozen cars being stolen from the Hertz parking garage. And they finally busted her. They arrested her at her home, actually, just the end of last month. So she's got a lot. I think they're still looking for some of the other guys that she was working with. So let's see here. Oh, this one is a winner. Chicken dinner. W.F.T.V. A.F. Arrested Orange County firefighter is accused of throwing over 100 tampons into her ex's yard. I really want to, Cain, I need you to really pay attention to her hair. In her mugshot, it's quite literally two-toned. Half of her hair is black, half of it's bleached blonde. Not making it up. Gabrielle Franze, a firefighter from Orange County, was put on paid leave. She apparently threw over 100 tampons into her ex's yard, and they have security footage. That's the hairstyle. Oh, it's so gross. They were used. Yes, they were used. That's all I'm going to say. Third hour next. Kel-Tec, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. This is a newer offering from Kel-Tec. And if you are unfamiliar with their shotguns, this one particularly is really compact. It's really designed for easy maneuverability as well. And it is, you know, they describe it as the next evolution in home defense. It's packed with upgrades. You have a five-slot Picatinny-style rail, so you can add vertical grips, lights, keep it flush and sleek if you want. It's a smoother pump action for a faster, cleaner cycling, which also enhances durability. All of the original KS7 advantages are there, the ultra-lightweight, the compact bullpup design. The ambidextrous downward shell ejection, all of that 7 plus 1 capacity. Home defense range days anytime in between. And MSRP is only $639. So it's bringing all of that performance well within affordability. K-E-L-T-E-C is how to spell it, caltechweapons.com. It's the KS7 Gen 2. That's caltechweapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Can we talk for a minute? about this insane story, because we're talking about the leftist, the left's culture of violence. The Kavanaugh assassin. I know you guys saw this, this story over the weekend. It is truly stunning, I think, what people can get away with. This guy, Nicholas Roski, Roski? Roski. He I mean, it's amazing that this is a story. He got a shorter sentence for trying to kill Brett Kavanaugh because he's trans. And the media has been describing him as a woman. An actual woman. The judge said of the convict's mom that affirmed his gender identity, quote, I am heartened that this terrible infraction has helped the Roski family accept their daughter for who she is. It's a literal dude. He's an actual man who did this. And he was supposed to go up. He was I mean, I just he was supposed to have a much harsher sentence. And I have no idea how this didn't happen. He got a shorter sentence than the guy that the judge sentenced last month for a wire fraud and aggravated identity theft. A guy submitted fraudulent CARES Act unemployment insurance claims. And wow. So Nicholas Roski got 97 months in prison. That's what his lawyers asked for. Sentencing guidelines called for 30 years per Luke Rosiak. But she pretty much undid most of the terrorism enhancement. He could be this guy could be out in four years. Out in four years. Deborah Boardman is the judge who was appointed by Joe Biden. This is the guy that Juan is showing you on the simulcast if you're watching the radio show. That NBC News and all of the media have called a woman. That's a whole woman. Yeah, you're supposed to think that that's a woman. I am amazed by this. And one of the things that they were considering with it He says he goes by the guy insists that he goes by the name Sophie. All the mainstream media outlets are indulging him. Guy from California. Remember, he tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh. And he only recently ever began identifying as a woman. And this is where it gets even trickier. Daily Wire had this piece back at the beginning of the month where they get into how he now identifies as transgender according to legal filings, right? So the guy who attempted to kill Kavanaugh was saying that he, oh, I'm a woman now. The court documents that were obtained by Daily Wire, and this is right before sentencing. This is all very recent, right? I feel like he just decided to do this to try to get a lighter sentence. He only got eight years. He was supposed to get 30 and he got eight years. The guy was like, had all kinds of implements to like murder a million ways. Brett Kavanaugh, in addition to his firearm that he illegally obtained 97 months in prison, eight years in one month. And the judge said that she felt that Roski had shown remorse for his actions and And then she referred to Roski as a woman and said he should – she referred – she ordered him to a lifetime of supervised release. And he has not even changed his name legally. So this is the other thing that's really weird to me. He has not even changed his name legally. He just asked to be called Sophie. And the judge decided to comply legally. And indulge him. Cain, if you went to court and you decided to change your name but not change it legally and you asked the court to, can you identify me by this made-up thing I'm identifying only as recently, how do you think that would go for you?
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But this is like, again, two tiers of justice. He's getting special assistance because he's pretending to be a woman. And he even admitted he wanted to reshape the Supreme Court in 2022. I mean, I am, wow. The guy, he was going to break into Kavanaugh's home, kill him, and then kill himself. And he was charged under his legal name. But I don't know if they're going to go back and change the documents or what and try to call him back. Because now the judge is referring to him as a different name and a different sex. They wanted 30 years in prison. He was going to break in, restrain, and kill him. And some of the implements and other reporting, he was going to torture him. He took a cab directly from the airport to Kavanaugh's house. And it wasn't until he saw Kavanaugh's U.S. Marshals detail that he began walking away. This is the other thing that makes me mad. The judge said, let me pull this quote up. The judge was crediting him for walking away. literally credited him in her remarks for walking. The only reason he walked away is because there were armed marshals stationed outside of Kavanaugh's house. That is the only reason this guy walked. He didn't walk because he had a change of heart. He didn't walk because he grew a conscience. He walked because he saw that there were armed U.S. marshals outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house. That's the only reason why he walked away. It wasn't because he suddenly turned into a good guy. That's just, I felt like this judge was babying him this entire time. Well, I mean, I don't feel like that. That's what this judge has done. So instead of 30 years, he gets eight years. And then now, you know, they are indulging him. She also said, too, that she doesn't pose, she doesn't view him as a risk to public safety. Oh. But I don't I don't understand that because you said he should have supervised release. So what does that even mean? This judge is all over the place. She's a garbage judge. This is just a really just a bad judge. And I I'm just I'm kind of I mean, it just is amazing the lawlessness and disorder from this. So think about this. This case, then you have the case, as we were talking about, the Virginia Democrat AG nominee who had all of these evil texts talking about killing someone else's kids. It's horrible. And then you have more attacks against federal immigration officers. In Illinois, the governor called them, quote, jackbooted thugs. JB Pritzker is... He's chomping at the bit to... create a national fight between himself and Trump, right? He, I think, is feeling a little jealous of Gavin Newsom. And so he's trying to put himself in that position. He called them, quote, jackbooted thugs. And Secwar and POTUS have ordered National Guard troops, you know, to go out and protect ICE agents that are under assault. Pritzker has sued to try to stop it. And Then you have attacks on federal vehicles with rocks and bottles in Chicago. Local police were told to stand down. I don't know if you some of the video I can't play because I mean, it's just F word, F word screaming it. And all you'll be able to I mean, you can just you know, they're hitting them with destroying vehicles, attacking ICE agents, etc. So I want you to think of all of this. All of this literally has happened within the past several days. That it's come out. To say nothing of what happened last month. And then the attacks on ICE agents. The attempts on POTUS. This culture of violence on the left. And then Democrats had a chance. They had a chance in Virginia. to make an example of how to control the tone on their own side, because they are demanding that Trump, you need to control your tone. They're demanding that JD Vance, he has to control his tone, all of these lawmakers. But when it comes to cleaning up their own side, they backed Jay Jones. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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A New Jersey-bound plane was forced to divert after an unruly passenger wearing over a dozen face masks. Like, on his face. Over a dozen. On Seth Evans' fellow passenger. He's the guy who told the Minnesota Star Tribune that this guy was wearing over a dozen face masks. I don't even know how that happens. And that he just immediately started screaming, As after the plane took off for Newark, it landed in Chicago because the guy began screaming. The plane is going down. It was total chaos. Then he said he was being gang chased by gay people and that he was being radiated and cooked by the gays and that the gays were giving him the cancer. I don't know if it was like specifically gay cancer or just like regular kind. And he was wearing no less clothes. The quote from the guy, no less than 15 masks over his mouth. And yeah, I man. And then after they got him buckled down, he played some Candy Crush. Just I don't know. I love that. That's like a big component of the article. I'm like, oh, well, it changes the tone of everything, I guess. Mark Sanchez, former quarterback and NFL commentator, was arrested after a stabbing in Indianapolis. So there's a stabbing incident early Saturday morning, according to local law enforcement. The Indianapolis Metro Police Department, they released a statement saying that he was stabbed, that Sanchez was stabbed just after midnight. And then they said that they arrested him for his alleged role in the incident. This is like a very confusing story. But then it gets even more confusing. So Twitchy has this rundown if you want to dive down the rabbit hole. So he is in the hospital and they said he was stabbed. He's in the hospital in stable condition and everyone was wishing him best wishes. And then they said that they had also arrested him. While he was at the hospital for battery with injury, unlawful injury of a motor vehicle and public intoxication. Apparently, he was the aggressor in the incident that led to him being stabbed. The report said that it began when he confronted a 69-year-old food delivery driver over a parking space. And then apparently, according to the driver and police, Sanchez began to beat him. The man tried to escape, used pepper spray. Apparently that didn't work. And then he said he used a knife in self-defense. Police reviewed the security camera footage and said that the man has facial injuries, too, and it's all consistent. His story is consistent. So he's being charged with all kinds of stuff. It's not worth your life, guys. It is not worth your life. Taylor Swift's article is being hailed as a masterpiece of cringe. I just want to know why she ripped off Pam Anderson. Because Pam Anderson did the last Showgirl and totally nailed it. And now Taylor Swift is doing the Showgirl. I don't know. I'm just... I haven't heard it. I'm not going to pass judgment. It's just not my jam. And I don't want to invalidate music just because I don't think it's my jam and think that it's bad just because it's not my particular style. But, I don't know. All the women of the world are fighting over it and I can't find anything that I could care less about other than this story. I really don't. Apparently... Marine mammals are dying in record numbers on the California coast. Everything is being blamed but California and California's pollution and Gavin Newsom and algae blooms and heat blobs and all kinds of stuff. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Also, Steak and Shake turning domestically. I got some culture headlines for you. They've announced that they're installing the tallest and biggest American flag that local governments will allow at every restaurant across the country. So they've got beef tallow, And then they're doing Flags. Yeah, I'll take it. Man, they are really doubling down against, what was it? Oh my gosh, I can't think of the name of it. The restaurant that just had the remake. Cracker Barrel? Yeah, Cracker Barrel. They're going to their roots. Famous for steak burgers and beef tallow fries.
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Yeah, that's how it used to be back in the day. That's what McDonald's used to use.
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I'm going to have to order this tonight for dinner.
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Until they found out it was cheaper to use seed oils that are much more harmful for you physically.
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I think I'm going to have to get those.
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Yeah, I think Steak and Shake should be a weekly thing now.
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What did you say about their fries? How did you describe their fries?
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They're little skinny little things.
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Little adorable little skinny little. Yeah, skinny little. Little shoestring.
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I didn't say that exactly, but yeah. Skinny little ones.
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They're good. I like the fries that you can spear with a fork a bunch at a time. Yeah. And dip in cheese.
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Oh, the cheese sauce.
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Oh, God. I just turned into that emoji. So, the drooling emoji. Sorry. The other thing, let's see here. So, Disney... Check this headline. Thin-skinned Disney boss Bob Iger, he was said to have reinstated Kimmel because the cancellation began threatening his social life. I read this in a couple different places now. He was alarmed by Hollywood's reaction to Kimmel's suspension. So see, now they're stuck with this guy. They're stuck with this albatross. I think it's hysterical. There was a host committee of women in media and they had a fundraiser and they were considering pulling out of this fundraiser because of it. And apparently it was affecting his socialization in Hollywood. And Eisner blasted Kimmel's suspension saying, where is all the leadership gone? Well, that's former Disney boss Michael Eisner. He said that that that apparently stung him the most. So he really. Just. Didn't want his social life to be impacted. That's real leadership. Let me tell you. Talk about bending the knee. Good heavens. That's just an Eisner blasted at saying if it wasn't for university presidents, et cetera, just asinine. So that tells you. I feel like that they were going to cut ties with Kimmel anyway. And they were looking for an out. And then they took this because they thought it would work. And then he wasn't prepared for a plan B. And then this happened. Meanwhile, Jimmy Kimmel will not stop whining about it. So apparently nobody... Notice how there hasn't been any other headlines about Kimmel or any other cuts about his monologues or anything because apparently that's all he's done. He has continued, it's been written, to relentlessly complain about his show's brief suspension. Every night he just bitches and moans about it. Every single night. Nobody knows because nobody's watching. They're all done. Do you think they're going to cancel him again, Kane? This time actually for bad ratings.
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I mean, they've had... They're worse than what they were. Yeah, they've had an excuse already with bad ratings. They're losing a ton. Look what happened with Stephen Colbert. He's losing the company $40 million a year. They cannot sustain it as a business. So yeah, eventually it'll have to come to that.
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Or he'll have to get funny. It's like one of those two.
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And in the meantime, Dave Chappelle, he was performing at a Saudi comedy festival recently. And now I don't dislike Dave Chappelle. I think he's sometimes he can be chaos neutral, but I think it's situational. He was blasted for saying that he had more free speech. He was at the Riyadh Comedy Festival and he said, quote, right now in America, they say if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you'll get canceled. He said, I don't know if that's true, but I'm going to find out. And. Wait, if he thinks that the free that the speech is freer over there, try talking about the royal family or Mohammed. Right. Because it's illegal. You can't criticize them over there. You'll get arrested. Doesn't matter if you're a Saudi or not. You can't do that. So let's just if you really wanted to, like, be ballsy and make a joke about free speech, see how far you can take it, Dave. Just make a joke about just make an innocuous joke about the royal family.
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I mean, I see the point he was making. Like, I don't think he was literally saying that. But there are certain things that are said in the public square here in the United States that get a lot of pushback from the left. And that doesn't make it unfree to say. It just means that there's extra consequences for that free speech.
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Now, remember, Saudi law, you are not allowed to challenge directly or indirectly the religion or the king or the crown prince or the royal family. And it is illegal to cast the phrases to cast doubts on the fundamentals of Islam. That's all illegal. Yeah. And by the end, I just felt like that was a misrepresentation of Islam. what actually happened so i don't know am i gonna freak out about like trans tifa did no but i just think it's funny these people that are like they go to places where you actually can't say things and then they're like oh yeah you can't say anything in america just stop thanks for tuning in to today's edition of dana lash's absurd truth podcast if you haven't already make sure to hit that subscribe button on apple podcast spotify or wherever you get your podcasts
This week on Liberty Nation Radio, Mark Angelides tackles a story that’s sending shockwaves through Virginia politics: explosive text messages from Democratic AG candidate Jay Jones reveal violent fantasies against Republican lawmakers — including explicit threats toward their children. While the media mostly blacked out the story, Democrats in Virginia doubled down and reaffirmed their support. The show dives deep into this culture of violence on the left, juxtaposing it with soft judicial treatment of the Kavanaugh assassination attempt, attacks on ICE agents, and escalating political rhetoric from figures like Gavin Newsom and Chicago’s mayor.
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We had Charlie Kirk assassinated and so many folks celebrated in the far left. We've had two Democrats threaten to murder two of our delegates running for office in Virginia. And now Jay Jones comes out and says that he has two bullets for Todd Gilbert's head and wants to see his children die. I mean, this is unbelievable. And what's shocking also is that after calling for the normal apology, the Democrat candidates, Abigail Spamburger and the rest of them, were out campaigning this weekend like it was nothing. They have got to call for this guy to resign, step down, get out of this race in disgrace. Because this is beyond disqualifying.
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Well, I mean, you would think that it's beyond disqualifying. And, of course, these are different rules because it's D different, Cain. They're different rules, and it's always been like this. And now with the increase in – well, I don't want to – I think that's the best way to put it. This increase in rhetoric and violent sentiment – If you do, if Democrats are not going to corral their own, then they're sending a clear message to everyone who is not them, that they believe that this is an acceptable form of disagreement. They're they're telegraphing that all of this violence, everything that we have seen is OK, that it's all OK because. They're not going to say anything about it. It's just going to go. They're never going to say anything about it. It's going to be just considered, well, it's acceptable. They're Democrat. So that's, you know, they're Democrat. That's to be accepted. Is it, though? Because this has been going on for so long now and everyone else is getting to see what I think people on the right have dealt with for so long. And these text messages, which we're going to dive into here, this is just like the latest example. The Democrats are fully behind their Dem nominee, Jay Jones. So welcome to the program. I tell you, we got already a very weird news week. We are at the top of this first hour. The chat's at Rumble. you can watch us do the radio program, Channel 347, on DirecTV. I also noticed, too, I'm going to pull this up, that there was pretty much a media blackout of these texts. Now, if you don't know what happened, if you live under a rock, Or if you're just not a nerd and you haven't been online, you don't live online, you don't have to follow the news as part of your job, then maybe you've seen these texts. They're pretty bad. They're incredibly bad. And they are between the Democrat selection. He was talking with another lawmaker. And I just, I was reading these texts where he was saying bad things about his opponents. If these guys die before me, I will go to their funerals to blank on their grave. Send them out awash in something. And he said three people, two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. He says, spoiler, put Gilbert. I can't believe, I mean, it's just unhinged. He goes, spoiler alert. or spoiler, he says, put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time. I mean, this is, and then he started talking, kept going on about Gilbert's family. Now, this is a Republican state legislator who got these, and these were early in the morning text messages. They were super early in the morning, and it was August 8th that this was happening. And Juan's showing you these texts right now. And the lawmaker, he had recently resigned after he had represented Norfolk and he had, you know, obviously Demnom to run for AG. And he was in a tizzy over a Republican lawmaker named Todd Gilbert. He's the House Speaker for Virginia, right? Republican lawmaker. And He did not appreciate, and I guess, I don't even know if you can call that venting. That's just, that's an unhinged. And he decided to take out his angst in these text messages, which have now gone public. About 8 a.m., actually it was before 8 a.m., he decided that he was upset with House Speaker Gilbert, who had begun making statements about public statements honoring this other lawmaker's memory, etc. And he had said, oh, Southwest, no one in Southwest Virginia shook more hands. It's a guy who's a delegate named Joe Johnson. So he's talking about him, you know, saying nice things. And then he just this and then Jay Jones just starts going off. 8 a.m. He starts sharing these feelings with a former state legislative colleague, Kerry Coyner. And now the texts are all over. He derided the delegates who they are speaking of, the guy that they were honoring in memoriam. He said that he derided his centrism, and he said that the glowing tributes were ridiculous, et cetera, et cetera. And he said, I doubt none of these people would say this about me if this happened to me. And then he started in on, if these guys die before me. So that's how it got set up. And This, now these text exchanges, this was August 8th, 2022. I don't know why they're just being made public now. I mean, obviously he's running for AG and you have an incumbent Republican AG. And, but the fact that Jay Jones brought this lawmaker's kids into it is just insane. This is from 22. He talked about breeding little fascists when he was talking about Republicans to his former colleague. He was also, by the way, in 2022, according to the Richmond Times Dispatch, he was convicted in a reckless driving case. He was driving 116 miles per hour, nearly 50 miles per hour above the speed limit. So he got a $1,500 fine, 1,000 hours of community service, etc. But then he marked... 500 of those hours. So he had, again, a thousand hours of community service that he was supposed to fulfill. 500 of them he marked working on his campaign as community service. That's insane because most people go to jail for a year and they're prohibited possessors over something like that. He has like no prosecutorial experience, but I think that people are just like he's nuts. He's literally he is a he's a hot temper. He's a ticking time bomb. What in the hell is wrong with someone's mental state that they get so mad over seeing tributes posted online to this delegate that he decides to go in and start talking about the guy's kids and all this other stuff? And I mean, good night. He said, only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy. Because he was talking about the lawmaker's wife, Jennifer Gilbert, etc. And that's what he said to Kerry Coyner. Yeah, I told you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy. And the Democrats, do you think that the Democrats in any way, did they decide to say, wow, this guy's a nut job. We can't have him. We can't have him as our nominee for AG. No, they didn't do that. They fully back him. They issued a statement where they, quote, reaffirmed their full support of Jay Jones for attorney general. And they called on all Virginians to line up behind Jay Jones. They said they literally said the Virginia Beach Democratic Committee reaffirms its full support of Jay Jones for attorney general. We are lined up 10 toes down. But we have like more than that ready to organize, mobilize and deliver votes for Jay and our entire Democrat ticket. And. I'm this is what gets me. They said they deserve a Virginians deserve a leader who learns, grows and stands for everyday people. Jay is that leader. OK, is he the leader, though? I want you to again reconsider this guy's hot temper. The fact that he's gotten it got nailed on aggressive driving already and he was able to skirt past the more the more serious penalty, which would have rendered him a prohibited possessor. And these texts that he sent where he gets so mad, he even starts talking about killing the other lawmakers' kids. You want this guy to be the top cop for Virginia? Do you trust Jay Jones to head up a case against you? Does anyone think that they're going to get a fair shake from a guy who said who talks about people who simply made him mad over tributes? Quote, I will go to their funerals to blink on their graves. Three people, two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot, and then starts talking about their kids. Koiner said you were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die. Jay Jones. Yes, I've told you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy. He said they were evil and he called their children, quote, little fascists. Democrats are backing a candidate who has openly discussed murdering children because their parents are Republican, called them little fascists and talked about putting bullets in people's heads. By the way, I thought Democrats were really big on gun control and all that stuff. Democrats want to put, just to reaffirm this, Democrats want to put a guy in the Attorney General's office in Virginia who talks about shooting children. Does everybody understand that? And Virginia Democrats have said they back him anyway. Virginia Democrats want children to be shot. Virginia Democrats think it's okay for political violence. You cannot tell me that this is a both sides thing. The bullets are only ever coming one way. I am I'm just there is no unifying with these people. None. And I think Republicans should double down on the harshness, frankly. I mean, this is absolutely inexcusable. We have more on it. Also, lawlessness and disorder. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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A New Jersey-bound plane was forced to divert after an unruly passenger wearing over a dozen face masks. Like, on his face. Over a dozen. On Seth Evans' – well, Seth Evans is the fellow passenger. He's the guy who told the Minnesota Star Tribune that this guy was wearing over a dozen face masks. I don't even know how that happens. And that he just immediately started screaming after the plane took off for Newark. It landed in Chicago because the guy began screaming and the plane was going down. It was total chaos. Then he said he was being gang chased by gay people. And that he was being radiated and cooked by the gays. And that the gays were giving him the cancer. I don't know if it was like specifically gay cancer or just like regular kind. And he was wearing no less clothes. The quote from the guy, no less than 15 masks over his mouth. And yeah, I man. And then after they got him buckled down, he played some Candy Crush. Just I don't know. I love that. That's like a big component of the article. I'm like, oh, well, it changes the tone of everything, I guess. Mark Sanchez, former quarterback and NFL commentator, was arrested after a stabbing in Indianapolis. So there's a stabbing incident early Saturday morning, according to local law enforcement. The Indianapolis Metro Police Department, they released a statement saying that he was stabbed. Sanchez was stabbed just after midnight. And then they said that they arrested him for his alleged role in the incident. This is like a very confusing story. But then it gets even more confusing. So Twitchy has this rundown if you want to dive down the rabbit hole. So he is in the hospital and they said he was stabbed. He's in the hospital in stable condition and everyone was wishing him best wishes. And then they said that they had also arrested him. While he was at the hospital for battery with injury, unlawful injury of a motor vehicle and public intoxication. 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Stand up to an administration which is too male, too pale, and too stale.
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Here's all the ales whine. Yeah, jail. The Holy Grail. On a rail. With a snail. On a boat with a sail. I mean, how else can we do this? So that's... Hold up, hold up, hold up. I forgot her name for a half second. Letitia James, the New York AG. That sounds kind of racist. R-A-Y-S-I-S. Racist. Pretty sure that's... Can you imagine? Oh, my gosh. If you had a white lawmaker that got up there and was... I don't know what the... I got to reverse it on my mind. And said that, but in reverse. Oh, my gosh. Kate and I are just going... We're looking at each other like, dare we even make the jokes? I mean, we don't even know. I really want to. People get upset over everything nowadays. That... Too male, too stale, and too pale. So she's sexist and a racist. Letitia James is a giant racist. She came after me once and tried to subpoena me. And I'm like, you're not going to get a judge in Texas that's going to let that happen. Slick. Ain't going to work. That's racist. I can't believe a lawmaker says that. This is 2025. Right. My mind is just like doing flips right now. Kane, there would be rioting if that was in reverse.
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Oh, my gosh. Absolutely would be.
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I mean, my head's just going. I'm almost short circuiting thinking of all the things that would burn. I mean, everything would burn. I mean, oh, my gosh. Oh, man. good job with the tongue there democrats it's too male he's too well she's too female she's too what stale what does that even mean old i guess she's trying to say he's an old pale male and then they chanted it like that wasn't it wasn't enough just for the ag to say it then the whole crowd's like yeah racist words, racist chants, yeah, racism. I mean, oh my gosh.
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You guys are in a cult.
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It's the dangerous thing in the world, the pale people. They act like, what were they called on Game of Thrones, Cain? The ice zombies. The White Walkers? Wasn't that what they were called? Yeah, the White Walkers or the others. They act like we're the ice zombies from Game of Thrones. It just doesn't make any sense to me. But that was Letitia James. Went real well for her, right? So consider this, just if you would, please. Because it's been such a weird weekend with the news cycle. A friend of mine had made the observation that, you know, if you're not conservative, please just consider a couple things here. You have a major state candidate, a nominee for AG in Virginia. I cannot underscore the importance of that position. Attorney General, top cop, can do whatever he wants to do to you and you can't touch him. Exposed because he sent texts to an opponent literally verbatim calling for the death of another conservative candidate. And he wrote, he even talked about killing their young children. And then he decides to respond by condemning the conservative candidate for noticing these texts that have come out where he fetishizes murdering the guy's kids. So that's number one. Then can we talk for a minute about this insane story? Because we're talking about the leftist, the left's culture of violence. The Kavanaugh assassin. I know you guys saw this, this story over the weekend. It is truly stunning, I think, what people can get away with. This guy, Nicholas Roski, Roski, Roski. He, I mean, it's amazing that this is a story. He got a shorter sentence for trying to kill Brett Kavanaugh because he's trans. And the media has been describing him as a woman, an actual woman. The judge said, Of the convict's mom that affirmed his gender identity, quote, I am heartened that this terrible infraction has helped the Roski family accept their daughter for who she is. It's a literal dude. He's an actual man who did this. And he was supposed to go up. He was I mean, I just. He was supposed to have a much harsher sentence, and I have no idea how this didn't happen. He got a shorter sentence than the guy that the judge sentenced last month for a wire fraud and aggravated identity theft. A guy submitted fraudulent CARES Act unemployment insurance claims. And wow. So Nicholas Roski got 97 months in prison. That's what his lawyers asked for. Sentencing guidelines called for 30 years per Luke Rosiak. But she pretty much undid most of the terrorism enhancement. He could be this guy could be out in four years. out in four years. Deborah Boardman is the judge who was appointed by Joe Biden. This is the guy that Juan is showing you on the simulcast if you're watching the radio show. That NBC News and all of the media have called a woman. That's a whole woman. Yeah, you're supposed to think that that's a woman. I am amazed by this. And one of the things that they were considering with it He says he goes by the guy insists that he goes by the name Sophie. All the mainstream media outlets are indulging him. Guy from California. Remember, he tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh. And he only recently ever began identifying as a woman. And this is where it gets even trickier. Daily Wire had this piece back at the beginning of the month where they get into how he now identifies as transgender, according to legal filings, right? So the guy who attempted to kill Kavanaugh was saying that he, oh, I'm a woman now. The court documents that were obtained by Daily Wire, and this is right before sentencing. This is all very recent, right? I feel like he just decided to do this to try to get a lighter sentence. He only got eight years. He was supposed to get 30 and he got eight years. The guy was like, had all kinds of implements to like murder a million ways. Brett Kavanaugh, in addition to his firearm that he illegally obtained 97 months in prison, eight years in one month. And the judge said that she felt that Roski had shown remorse for his actions and And then she referred to Roski as a woman and said he should, she referred, she ordered him to a lifetime of supervised release. And he has not even changed his name legally. So this is the other thing that's really weird to me. He has not even changed his name legally. He just asked to be called Sophie. And the judge decided to comply legally. And indulge him. Cain, if you went to court and you decided to change your name but not change it legally and you asked the court to, can you identify me by this made-up thing I'm identifying only as recently, how do you think that would go for you?
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They'd be like, no, your legal name, sir.
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But this is like, again, two tiers of justice. He's getting special assistance because he's pretending to be a woman. And he even admitted he wanted to reshape the Supreme Court in 2022. Yeah. I mean, I am, wow. The guy, he was going to break into Kavanaugh's home, kill him, and then kill himself. And he was charged under his legal name. But I don't know if they're going to go back and change the documents or what and try to call him back. Because now the judge is referring to him as a different name and a different sex. They wanted 30 years in prison. He was going to break in, restrain, and kill him. And some of the implements and other reporting, he was going to torture him. He took a cab directly from the airport to Kavanaugh's house. And it wasn't until he saw Kavanaugh's U.S. Marshals detail that he began walking away. This is the other thing that makes me mad. The judge said, let me pull this quote up. The judge was crediting him for walking away. literally credited him in her remarks for walking. The only reason he walked away is because there were armed marshals stationed outside of Kavanaugh's house. That is the only reason this guy walked. He didn't walk because he had a change of heart. He didn't walk because he grew a conscience. He walked because he saw that there were armed U.S. marshals outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house. That's the only reason why he walked away. It wasn't because he suddenly turned into a good guy. That's just, I felt like this judge was babying him this entire time. Well, I mean, I don't feel like that. That's what this judge has done. So instead of 30 years, he gets eight years. And then now, you know, they are indulging him. She also said, too, that she doesn't pose, she doesn't view him as a risk to public safety. Oh. But I don't I don't understand that because you said he should have supervised release. So what does that even mean? This judge is all over the place. She's a garbage judge. This is just a really just a bad judge. And I I'm just I'm kind of I mean, it just is amazing the lawlessness and disorder from this. So think about this. This case, then you have the case, as we were talking about, the Virginia Democrat AG nominee who had all of these evil texts talking about killing someone else's kids. It's horrible. And then you have more attacks against federal immigration officers. In Illinois, the governor called them, quote, jackbooted thugs. JB Pritzker is... He's chomping at the bit to... create a national fight between himself and Trump, right? He, I think, is feeling a little jealous of Gavin Newsom. And so he's trying to put himself in that position. He called them, quote, jackbooted thugs. And Secwar and POTUS have ordered National Guard troops, you know, to go out and protect ICE agents that are under assault. Pritzker has sued to try to stop it. And Then you have attacks on federal vehicles with rocks and bottles in Chicago. Local police were told to stand down. I don't know if you some of the video I can't play because I mean, it's just F word, F word screaming it. And all you'll be able to I mean, you can just you know, they're hitting them with destroying vehicles, attacking ICE agents, etc. So I want you to think of all of this. All of this literally has happened within the past several days. That it's come out. To say nothing of what happened last month. And then the attacks on ICE agents. The attempts on POTUS. This culture of violence on the left. And then Democrats had a chance. They had a chance in Virginia. to make an example of how to control the tone on their own side, because they are demanding that Trump, you need to control your tone. They're demanding that JD Vance, he has to control his tone, all of these lawmakers. But when it comes to cleaning up their own side, they backed Jay Jones. 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And here's the other thing that is quite unprecedented. And it was the tightest, closest presidential election in the 21st century. He does not have a mandate. That is not a mandate.
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That is not a mandate.
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I can't say that with a microphone. Yeah, I can't. Anyway, she's pulling the Stacey Abrams energy here.
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Is she ever sober anymore?
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Well, would you be if you were Kamala Harris? If I woke up every day as Kamala Harris, I'd be like, what can I do to alter my reality today?
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That's a good point.
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I mean, I would trans myself right out of that reality. Oh, my gosh. She's... That's not helpful. And he does have a mandate because you got whooped. She got whooped. There's not enough O's available to emphasize the whoop and the whooped. There's not enough. She was she was legitimately beaten into a hole in the ground. And he absolutely does have a mandate. And that's what happens when you lose elections. You don't. So coming up. There's CBS people or the veterans are freaking out. CBS news vets, not actual veterans. These people never saw anything other than fighting over a parking spot. But they are upset that Barry Weiss is taking over news there and they're threatening. Don't you touch our 60 minutes. We've got that. We've got lawlessness and disorder and the latest in Virginia. Stick with us. Our friends at it's the folks at Burn a Gun. I look, I have zero problem throwing lead down range. I've told you this a million times. I have zero issue. using the lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones. It's just not even up for debate. But I also realized, too, that it's important to have diversity in terms of what you have for weapons. And whether it's municipal or private property restrictions, blah, blah, blah, you guys know the drill. You have different calibers. You have blades. I just think that it's smart to incorporate something when everything else is trying to disarm you so you can still have a means of defending yourself. Burn-A-Gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. And they've got, I think it's like, what, 15 rounds in one of their cartridges? Whereas, think about regular stun guns. You've got regular stun guns, you've got like one or two rounds. That's it. But with Burna Gun, you've got a 15-round shock capacity per cartridge. There's no recoil. Everything's made right here in the U.S. of A. And it does not care about gun-free zone signs. So if you're a college student who's allowed by age of 18 to go in a foreign land and carry a full auto in defense of your country, but you can't legally carry a firearm here while living in a town and going to college in defense of yourself, Burna Gun might be an option for you. It doesn't care about gun-free zone signs. There are zero background checks. They can be shipped right to your front door. There's no special fees. It's accessible to everybody. The CL, the compact launcher, is the best one, and it's perfect for this particular situation. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. It's the Burna CL. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana.
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Coming up, an attorney general candidate in Virginia is apologizing for his texts about a state lawmaker.
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We'll go through what the message is probably be forced to withdraw from the rest and probably is doing a lot there.
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All right. Morning, Joe. We'll be right back. He is doing a lot there. You know, that hurt Joe Scarborough so bad to say that he probably should. If wait, if I talk about them, are they going to accuse me of stalking them on air again? Hyperbolically. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. This is, I think, a major story and I think it's a watershed moment, particularly in the context of political violence and rhetoric and all of the stuff that we have been seeing on the left. Top of this second hour chat is at Rumble Channel 347 so we can watch the radio program. And we read you some of these texts. We threw them up on the screen for you. They were obtained. I don't know. Two news agencies are arguing over who got what first. But long story short is that the Democrat. candidate for attorney general sent these texts about a political opponent wherein he fantasized about murdering a state Republican lawmaker with, quote, two bullets to the head, urinating on the graves of other Republicans. And then he called their children little fascists and even suggested killing their children. One, the lawmaker that he wrote to, she was trying to correct him. She said, you weren't trying to understand. You were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die. Jay Jones wrote, quote, Yes, I've told you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy. He said that the Democrat called the family that he was talking about evil and, quote, breeding little fascists. He was in reference. All of this happened because Republicans were saying nice things about this 90-year-old delegate, a Democrat named Joe Johnson, who passed away. And he was livid about it. And he said that he wants this other lawmaker, Gilbert's children, to die. I don't even have words for this. He was talking about House Speaker Todd Gilbert. Because Todd Gilbert said something nice about the late delegate. This guy named Johnson, this late delegate. And there were other Republicans that offered kind words. So just to put this in contrast, Jay Jones was mad that Republicans said something nice about a Democrat delegate that passed away. Would he have been? Why is he mad that they said something nice? And he just like went on this litany of threats. I mean, and he was talking to another delegate, a Republican, Carrie Koiner, and he texted her saying, hence the glowing tributes from the Rs. I, yeah, as Kane said, it's like being mad because, you know, the guys, they gave food to the local food shelter or something. They did something nice and he got mad about it. And then he was going off on the House leader for Virginia. Again, his name's Todd Gilbert. He said, quote, spoiler, put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time. He said three people, two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. And joins in, Koiner apparently had a telephone conversation in the middle of these text messages because Koiner said, quote, in the text that were released, Jay, please stop. He said, OK, OK. And then he followed up. And she wrote, I was I was asking questions. I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to understand your logic. And that's when he said, yes, I've told you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy because she said you're talking about Todd and Jennifer Gilbert's children being killed. And he said, yes. I cannot underscore how serious this is because this guy is going he's running to be top cop in Virginia. Where are all the people who don't trust the police at? No, I think this is fair to bring up. All the people on the left are like, oh, they hate ICE. They hate border. They hate Border Patrol agents. They hate ICE. They hate law enforcement. You know, it was the left that marched in the streets saying pigs in a blanket fry like bacon. Right. The whole nine yards. But this is a top cop they love, a guy who's sitting here fetishizing about murdering a Republican lawmaker's children because the said Republican lawmaker only had nice things to say about a recently deceased Democrat delegate. You want this guy to be able to have the authority to persecute you in Virginia, to prosecute you in Virginia, to head up law and order in Virginia. Now, if you thought that there was any condemnation of it, because Democrats did have a chance, as I said, they didn't. They didn't condemn it at all. They doubled down on it. There is almost no understanding this. They doubled down on the statement. They said, quote, and their thing that they put this out on X, quote, They said the Virginia Beach Democratic Committee reaffirms its full support of Jay Jones for attorney general. We are lined up 10 toes down. Ready to organize, mobilize and deliver voters for Jay and our entire Democrat ticket. They said recent press may have spotlighted past mistakes. We say and I don't know why they have the comma there. It's totally unnecessary. Let those without sin cast the first stone. OK, I'm pretty sure there aren't Republicans talking about murdering the children of other Democrats. So I'm OK with that. Can you OK with that? Yeah, I'll take that deal. Yeah, I'll take that deal. That sounds like a good deal. I'll take that deal. I can't even. They go after the Republican incumbent. Over like women's reproductive rights, which is a stupid misnomer. And it sounds like it was written by a man. Sorry. Like women are being barred from procreating or not procreating. This is so stupid. Stop treating women like we're stupid children. It's the most sexist phrase I've ever heard. It makes me sick. And they called up on all Virginians to line up behind Jay Jones, the guy who wants to kill other people's kids. They're rewarding it. He talks like a terrorist. Why in God's name would you want this guy, Jay Jones, as attorney general, a guy who fetishized killing someone else's children over politics and then reaffirmed that he was talking about killing someone else's children over politics, literally saying yes in a text message that had been confirmed by multiple news outlets? And and by the Democrats themselves, they confirm these are real because they said, yeah, we don't care. We affirm our support for him. Do you trust this guy being in control of that kind of power in that seat as attorney general? Do you know the damage and the trail of terror that someone bad in that position could leave? I don't want to hear a single thing from these people about bad policing or ice or anything like that. I don't want to hear a single thing from Democrats about sending National Guard to cities to help bring law and order when they allow a guy who openly celebrates murder and the murder of children, like someone's children as attorney general. I don't want to hear a damn thing from these people on the left over this. He's not going to get out of this race. And Democrats, well, they're not going to condemn him. They are not going to condemn him. Audio Soundbite 8, Speaker of the House in Virginia. Listen to this. Audio Soundbite 8. This is, I have no words.
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So we need to understand something. We have to be mature in our thinking and how we vote. We can't get distracted because they want us to get distracted by the text message here or something else. Stay focused.
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That's the current Speaker of the House in Virginia. He is standing in a church pulpit and he's telling people that they need to ignore Jay Jones's call to assassinate Republican lawmakers, the current Speaker of the House in Virginia, in a church pulpit, telling people to ignore Jay Jones calling for the cold-blooded murder of children because their parents are his political opponents. The left needs to be very careful about what they endorse. Because when you go too far, there is no coming back and there is no calling off the response to it. It is the culture of violence continued on the left. And as I said last hour, you got the guy who tried assassinating Kavanaugh, who just got a wrist slap from a Biden judge because he decided that to only recently identify as trans. And the press has been calling him a woman. You've got the continued attacks on ICE agents. The media, by the way, has been absolutely blacking this out. MRC and others, they've done analysis. MRC has done analysis of all of this over at Newsbusters. And I mean, if you thought that there was going to be a lot of discussion over this Virginia AG Democrat candidate calling for assassinations just a couple of weeks after we had one. No, they have completely iced it out. They have iced it out. There was no coverage on the Sunday morning talk shows. No coverage. In fact, the closest that it got was this. Cut nine, please. This is insane. This is the closest it got.
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But can I also say, in an interview with Leader Jeffries, that can we stop with the pearl collection about the mean tweets and some rare tweets? That this week it came to light that a Democrat candidate for Attorney General of the state of Virginia called for the assassination of a political opponent, called for the assassination of that political opponent's family, and there's not one national Democrat calling for him to step aside. Not one. It's disgraceful.
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Nero, let me let you respond to that because that is going to be a big story, I think, in the coming days.
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I absolutely think people should criticize that 100%. I think it was a private conversation he had, but still awful and disgusting.
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She sounds like drunk as all hell.
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I mean, like, I don't know. I mean, I just think that it happened in private.
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The vocal fry is killing my soul and not the way that Jay Jones wants it to happen. She's this former you guys. This this lady is this female is apparently a former Biden aide. And she's like, no, it's OK, because it was a private conversation. with another lawmaker where he was over and a telephone conversation. And he, first off, I wouldn't, can I just say this? And I'm not trying to be jokey. I wouldn't trust anyone stupid enough to put something like that in a text. That is an immediate self-own. I don't like candidates that self-own because they're worthless. They have bad acumen and you cannot trust them. You can't trust them to be a field general. You can't. A lawmaker who, A politician that is so enraged that they lose the capability of reason. Or they lose the ability to reason. And they write this stuff in a text. That's insane. I mean, yes, what he wrote is insane. The fact that he wrote it is insane. There's no sense of self-preservation because that was suspended because he was blinded by rage. Do you want someone that gets so blinded by rage that they don't even think of self-preservation? What in the hell would they do to you? This is like a red alert moment here. A red alert moment. It is a watershed moment. And Democrats have already they've already signaled what they're going to do. We have we have more on the way. We've got to go to headlines. Folks at All Family Pharmacy love the folks at All Family Pharmacy. I actually had to use them again. So my my son, who is in college, ended up getting strep throat. And he was able to get medication in there, but I wanted to be able to get him something that helps his throat, right? You can get, I think it's like, I can't pronounce it properly. It's like Benzonatate or whatever. You know what it is, Cain. This is one of the things you can get at All Family Pharmacy. You go in, you fill out, you pick what you need, you answer some questions, the doctor reviews your request. Issues of prescription and your medicines are sent in as fast as like two to four days or overnighted in a pinch if you need it. And they have literally everything. NAD plus, they have ivermectin, they've got all of the antibiotics that you need, the azithromycin, the amoxicillin, stuff I can't pronounce. A lot of things I can't pronounce. Your everyday medications, emergency kits, everything. Ladies, you can get Latisse for your eyelashes. So you don't have to worry about doing the tube and mascara or getting them extensions. You get you some Latisse at All Family Pharmacy. I mean, literally everything. Here's the other part that I love. Everything is made in the USA. I don't know of any other pharmacy where you are getting all the precursors for this stuff and the final product, all USA made. You can stock up today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, where I am a huge customer and I use my own name, Dana10 as my code, because that's how you get 10% off. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10 for 10% off.
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All right, so this is in our town, and you want to talk about some bad pastors. And this is not representative of all pastors, but 64-year-old Robert Morris, he was behind a church here in our town where he got busted for sexually abusing a 12-year-old girl some years ago. Is this the Gateway Church, this Robert Morris guy? Yes. It was in the 1980s when it happened. He was given a 10 year suspended sentence. He's going to only serve six months in jail. He's been called a pedophile disguised as a preacher. I think Robert Morris ought to be dragged personally. And my gosh, you just the punishment that awaits bad shepherds. I mean, it's in the Gospels. You're going to be thrown in the depths of the sea with a millstone tied around you as your punishment. This is the kind of stuff, it's absolutely inexcusable. And I'm sorry, I don't like giant churches where the leadership is unaccountable. Not a fan of it. Let's see, a long lost treasure chest worth a million dollars that sunk on a Spanish galleon 300 years ago is finally hauled up from the depths. Kane, why can't we ever find anything like a lost treasure chest? Super sad about this. And Canada is recalling cannabis products because they say the THC is too high. Can you die from high THC? I don't know anything about this, but that's wild. Stick with us. Do you remember the panic buying of 2020? Empty shelves and crazy prices for ammo. So many of us felt that regret when we needed ammo and found out that it was gone or just cost way too much. Ammo Squared is the smarter way to stay prepared and never get caught short again. Set your budget and choose from over 70 calibers and then let Ammo Squared automatically stockpile ammo for you. It's pretty cool. Your supply is secure in climate-controlled facilities shipped whenever you need it. No minimums, no hidden fees, and always free shipping on orders over $250. It's perfect for testing out new calibers and keeping your training rounds ready, too. With more than 100,000 members and thousands of five-star reviews, you're joining America's ammunition reserve, people who know the value of readiness. Visit AmmoSquared.com for a special offer and secure your future supply today. Don't get caught without ammo. Take control. Visit AmmoSquared.com to learn more and keep yourself fully stocked. Tell them you heard about it on The Dana Show.
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The calls for hate and violence are coming from the mouths of the Democrat Party's leaders. And Jay Jones is just the most recent and his wish for violent acts the most clear. So if you can't solve a problem, you can't name it, but I will. And here and now, the leadership of the Democrat Party has become consumed with hate.
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That's when some Sears and she's not wrong. By the way, she is running in a gubernatorial race. And man, it's been it's tough right now. And Republicans are not doing all they could do to win that race. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. They're up against a machine. The Democrat nominee has major donors dropping millions of dollars, donors that don't live in Virginia. And this is a big swing state. And then you have this AG race. And I don't know why that is. I have no clue why it is that Winsome Sears is outfunded and nobody in the Republican Party seems to care about this gubernatorial race. Do you realize what you're setting up? I'm going to tell you something. If Jay Jones isn't checked politically at the ballot box, you're going to be dealing with this guy for a long time. And he will read a victory as an endorsement of his calls for assassination and his terror tactics. And you can promise I promise you you'll see more. Imagine if someone was assassinated in Virginia over politics, and you have Jay Jones as the AG. I don't see anybody getting a fair shake. He will mainstream it, and he'll use his office to protect it, and that's a guarantee. You can't tell me that somebody who texts stuff like that would do anything differently. I don't know where the GOP is with some of these races. They their messaging on the shutdown, which is still in effect, I think has been good. But their groundwork with these state by state races is not promising. And I can't tell you, I think I've only said this about one other midterm election in my adult life. And I think it was the 2010 one. Where it was incredibly important that we had won. the House and that in 2010. This is another one of those instances. This is probably of the decade, the most important midterm election. And if Trump should lose, then heaven forbid, if the GOP should lose, Trump will lose because they'll impeach him over and over again. The last part of his term will just be mired in that. It is something, it's very important to consider this stuff. And I know that these races, some of these down ticket races aren't as attractive. But that's where the germination for everything else at the top of the ticket starts. I promise you, if Jay Jones wins, he's not done with AG. It's like rewarding Hamas by saying, oh yeah, we're going to release some terrorists in exchange for probably dead innocent civilians that you kidnapped. It's like, It's like a Hamas tactic. You endorse the rhetoric. You endorse the tactics. I just don't think that people realize how dangerous somebody like Jay Jones is. And even for the Democrats who are like, well, I don't know. I'm just so tribal. I'm going to tell you something. One of these Democrats is going to inspire another assassination. We just had a political assassination where our friend was shot in the throat. And you had a Supreme Court justice who had an attempt that was made on his life to say nothing of the two attempts on POTUS. To say nothing of the attacks on ICE agents. To say nothing of the attacks on Tesla drivers. You know, I had to think twice the other day after church went out to eat and parked next to a Tesla. And I actually paused as I pulled in. I was like, wait, do I want to park next to this Tesla? Isn't that horrible? Is that not horrible? I just agreed to a speaking event coming up next month. And the negotiations just over the security alone were insane. Because everything is heightened. The left doesn't have to worry about that because they're the ones doing the killing and the assaulting. I'm going to tell you, the left will push it to the point where they get a response, but it's not going to be what they want. Nobody wants to see it get to that point. Last of all, the left. Because it's not something you win. You know, you don't weaken warrior this stuff. This is just terrorism. To me, I don't know if the Republican AG there is going to be able, I don't know if there's charges that can be brought. Not quite sure. This guy has a history. I told you he got in trouble, busted for reckless driving that he was able to skate on. And then I was reading this story on break. the story that came up. He's been apparently in trouble for so many things, and I've just pulled this up. In 2021, he called for a Norfolk police lieutenant to be fired because the lieutenant donated $25 to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal defense fund. And he called it utterly disgusting. And he demanded true accountability in policing. There's a police lieutenant that lost his entire career because he gave $25 to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal defense fund because of Jay Jones. Jay Jones made it happen. He persecuted this guy. Imagine Jay Jones with even more power as attorney general. I mean, you know, he might text about killing someone's kids, but as AG, sorry, he's got the levers to actually do it. When they tell you who they are, you got to believe them. That's not hyperbole for me to say that. That is who these people are. No reasonable person does this kind of stuff. They don't say this type of stuff. They sure as hell don't text it. We have more on that. Also, I wanted to touch on this. This travel policy, let me pull this up. So there is going to be, well, kind of a change. They're implementing, you know, they have the ID cards, right? They have these like bio, they have these ID cards that they've been pushing for EU nations. Now it's going to affect American travelers. Fingerprint scans are coming for American travelers to most of Europe in a new policy. You would have to have your prints taken as well as photos upon arrival. France, Italy, Portugal, the United Kingdom and 25 other EU nations are going to begin implementing this new entry exit system on October 12th over the course of about six months. They're going to be collecting biometric data like facial imaging and fingerprints, according to the EU. And they might not be collected at every border crossing right away. And their personal information may not be registered in the system. They're still going to stamp passports. They said that they want to help modernize border management across Europe to include security improvement. You know, you could close your damn borders and stop allowing the deluge to come in from North Africa. But, you know, you're an Islamist nations. But no, they're not going to do that. They're going to make everybody get fingerprinted. And they'll be able to track if people overstay their welcome in the Schengen area. And it's an agreement with these EU nations and blah, blah, blah. And if you're basically an American and you're in the Schengen zone, you have to keep your passport on you at all times. And people say, leave it in your hotel room. If you're stopped by police in some of these nations and you don't have it, it's up to their discretion whether or not they want to acknowledge your photocopy of it or take you to jail for not having it. I don't trust this, Cain. What could they do with our information? What do you think they could do with all that?
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Well, they can do anything. You can establish new credit lines. You can do nefarious illegal things in the name. Yeah. I mean, it's limitless, honestly.
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If you were to deny to provide your fingerprints, they will deny you entry.
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What?
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Do you believe that the EU is capable of protecting all of your biometric data?
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No, they've already proven. And by the way, our own government's already proven they can't prevent it.
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When the option is to just stop allowing the lawlessness back and forth across your borders with simple border sovereignty, this is what they want to do instead. Now, I kept seeing this stuff pop up like, oh, Americans are going to be denied entry if they don't provide, you know, they don't do the bio ID card with with EU nations. Yeah. Now, TSA, Lorena makes a good point about facial recognition. Yeah, that's and you're not given an opt out. I've had to. They've done that to me before. I was not given an opt out. In fact, past couple of times I've flown, especially when we were overseas, when we went through Amsterdam. Amsterdam did not give you the airport, does not give you an option to you don't get to opt out. Gosh, they were so mean at that airport. Can I just can I sidebar real quick? So at Amsterdam, their TSA. is their equivalent of TSA is insane. First off, you don't get to opt out. Secondly, the photo thing would break like every couple of people. And then the people who were, they had workers there, but the workers were only telling you where to go after the automated system would tell you to move up. And then when the automated system didn't work, the, the workers there had no backup and, But they detained me for like 20 minutes because I had a makeup bag or a makeup case, and they didn't recognize my makeup case. And no offense, dudes, but I just think if you're a dude and you're looking at ladies' luggage, you should know what that stuff is. And I guess they thought it was a bomb. So I was detained for like 20 minutes and all this stuff. And I was just, I, yeah, I was mad because I'm like, this is moronic. And they thankfully brought a female over who was like, this is stupid. She was like, these guys need to be way better trained. So the female lady, the lady that was there acknowledged that. But they, my point is that they don't give you, it's also automated. And especially at a lot of these busier international airports that People are in such a hurry that it's just fait accompli. They do it and they don't think about it. And everybody behind you is like pushing up, you know? So when you go, they have like a little iPad thing there and it just takes your photo and you don't get to opt out. And I did ask one of the ladies there. I said, well, what happens if I don't want my photo taken? She's like, I don't understand. And I'm like, well... what is the other option if I don't want to do this? And she's like, there's no other option. I'm like, so that's the only, so someone does not want their photo taken. She's like, I don't know what to do. Oh my gosh. And they said, the EU is like, we promise there are safeguards in place to protect your data. What are they? Oh, we can't tell you that. But, and it's only going to be in the system for as long as necessary. Well, how long is that? We can't tell you. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida man.
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Oh, Florida man. When Florida man is like the most decent person lately. I don't know. A Florida woman stole from clients while working as a maid and even sent money to herself through Venmo, say deputies. Oh, my goodness. So I'm just going to say she looks like she's had a rough life, King. She looks like she's had a little. Why did this? Here it is. This Florida woman, Kayla Connor, Flager County. Oh, wow. She's only 38. Do you see that? Hard living. She is accused of fraud, theft related crimes, pickpocketing. She has been stealing and stealing from people 65 years age or older. All kinds of stuff. She ended up being charged. She said apparently she was stealing identification debit cards from like elderly widows. How horrible is this? and uh also taking uh checkbooks from widowers etc and uh trying to write bad checks things like that with their uh with their checkbooks and uh she ended up getting she ended up getting caught she's gonna go to jail for a while you gotta be careful of the people that you work with really uh there is a woman let's see i want a really good one that's not too bad this um lady would she was accused of helping to steal 12 rental car cars while she worked at a rental center and the story here this is in fort lauderdale 24 year old woman she worked with three other men to steal this sounds like fast and furious slow and angry this is what it's called so 12 cars from her she was working secure she was working as security security security It was the Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport's car rental center, Savannah Phillips. She was arraigned on 13 felony charges related to a dozen cars being stolen from the Hertz parking garage. And they finally busted her. They arrested her at her home, actually, just the end of last month. So she's got a lot. I think they're still looking for some of the other guys that she was working with. So let's see here. Oh, this one is a winner. Chicken dinner. W.F.T.V. A.F. Arrested Orange County firefighter is accused of throwing over 100 tampons into her ex's yard. I really wanted, Kane, I need you to really pay attention to her hair. In her mugshot, it's quite literally two-toned. Half of her hair is black, half of it's bleached blonde. Not making it up. Gabrielle Franzi, a firefighter from Orange County, was put on paid leave. She apparently threw over 100 tampons into her ex's yard, and they have security footage. That's the hairstyle. Oh, it's so gross. They were used. Yes, they were used. That's all I'm going to say. Third hour next. our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is in existence. Patriot Mobile not only protects the things that you vote to protect at the ballot box, but they also give you great coverage, reliable nationwide coverage with access to all three major U.S. networks. There's no compromise on quality for your values. They have unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, device protection, i mean internet backup to stay connected and it's so easy to switch you can keep your phone or in your number or upgrade and get entirely new everything change your number and don't tell anyone it's up to you fast activation by their 100 us-based support team right from your house or office you don't have to go into brick and mortar you can stay comfy in your sweats if you want or just you know chill at your desk before you leave for work get it all switched over nationwide coverage it's fantastic and veterans and first responders you get 15 off your bill every month switch over to the cell phone service that i've used for over a decade patriot mobile.com dana or you can call 972 patriot and don't forget to use promo code dana because when you do you get a whole free month of service switch today patriot mobile.com dana promo code dana 972 patriot i i said very candidly that the right wing in this country
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wants a rematch of the Civil War. I want that to sit in right now because the President of the United States of America has declared war on the people of Chicago and people across America. That's right. He's more interested in giving billions of dollars to other nations while farmers in urban cities around this country are literally being destabilized.
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That's the Chicago mayor who's a race hustler, and he's trying to incite. I don't know how else you interpret what he just said. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this third hour. The chat's at rumble. All kinds of good stuff. The 347 Direct TV, X, Facebook, all that. This was the Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson who said this. And he's talking about the efforts to control crime in the cities where crime is so insane you can't even walk the street. You can't even ride the subway. You can't do anything without being stabbed or attacked or something happening to you. And when you have Democrat... mayors and governors that refuse to do anything, then it's incumbent for the protection of the citizenry to receive protection. Then you're going to have the president who's going to exercise his authority to do so. And that's what's happening here. But for him to use that language, that's shameful. That is absolutely shameful. He's race hustling. Oh, they want a civil war. What a horrible, ignorant, racist thing to say. When your entire defense is just race baiting, you're a racist. That's just kind of embarrassing that this guy has gotten this far in life being a one trick pony, being a race hustler. um and it's i i really don't think don't sit here and tell republicans to watch their tone when you've got attorney general nominees threatening to shoot somebody's kids in the head when you've got the chicago mayor who's saying oh they want to they want a civil war with that type i really do think democrats are trying to signal to incite more you can't convince me otherwise um For instance, Audio Sun by 22. Here's another example of it. This is Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is in a race with J.B. Pritzker to see who can be the biggest D-bag. Listen.
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This is it. This is it. We're losing this country. We're losing it in real time. This is a chaos presidency. He is a wrecking ball. This is unlike anything we've experienced in our lifetime. It is code red. No time for neutrality.
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Hmm.
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Time to stand up, pick a side and be firm and resolute. And that's what we're calling for.
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So that kind of rhetoric, we're losing this country to what? To what? What are you losing the country to? This is about lawlessness and disorder and stopping the absolute insane amount of crime on Democrat city streets where they don't want to do anything. So Trump was using California National Guard for Portland. Portland filed a second TRO. Illinois with Pritzker has been fighting back. And in the meantime, you're protecting the criminals. I gave you the example of the Kavanaugh attempted assassin. One of the other things that we're watching, Israel is preparing to implement. This agreement that everybody was talking about for the last couple of weeks, the Middle East peace plan, the first stage of it. Netanyahu's government told the IDF to reduce activity in Gaza for now to a minimum. But Hamas has to accept the deal. and actually release the hostages. Now, Hamas announced that they would, because all of this is, by the way, predicated upon Hamas accepting it, and the individuals who scream about ceasefire, they don't seem to understand that that's Hamas, Hamas having to agree to it, explain, reconcile the demands for Israel to cease fire and then the importance that Hamas has to accept this at this this agreement because Israel already has. So there they've said that they would agree to release the hostages. But after they but they want some of their terrorists released, which I think is no, I think it's too much. I I also think that the only reason that it's lasted this long is because of the ninnies who keep saying that Israel needs to. Oh, wait, wait. Don't don't. They purposefully made it to where it was dragged out for so long. This. Part of the agreement, this agreement is. was that they would have to hand over administrative control of Gaza to an independent body. And that's something I think that they're still trying to work out. I got to be honest with you, I have no expectation that this is going to work because every single time anything like this has been done, Hamas immediately breaks it. It's part of this 20-point peace plan. And The hostages, they said that there's like 20 that they think are still alive and then the bodies of another 28 that they refused to send home. So I just think it needs to be, if they want any of their terrorist prisoners returned, then they should be returned dead. If I were Israel, I would say for every one of the hostages you killed, we're going to kill two of the detainees we have of your terrorists. And then we're going to put them in mislabeled boxes like you did to the Beavis family. That's what I would do. So we'll see how this works. But I'm not, I got to be honest, I have no expectation that it will. Rubio said this is the closest that we've come so far to anything of this nature. And I don't know. The condemnation of Hamas, I feel, was just weak and lukewarm from all of the other Arab nations. Hamas, though, they said, well, we will release the remaining hostages, but we want a permanent ceasefire and a transition of the administration to a Palestinian body. I don't believe that you're hijacking, again, a nickname given by a dead Roman emperor. It's not a real thing. You're Jordanian. Uh, so no, and it can't be under the Palestinian authority either, because as we've talked about ad nauseum on the show, that's essentially Hamas at this point, because they have taken so well, the last election, they took so many seats and their governing body, and then they were going to completely, they had to suspend the 21 elections because they were going to take over authority in West Bank too. So, uh, it's, it's too much. But I'm not, I don't know. I'm just not. Ken, this has been like 20 years, 30 years. I'm not hopeful at all whatsoever. Me neither. Waiting for the next rocket because you know that that's going to happen. Also, Steak and Shake turning domestically. I got some culture headlines for you. They've announced that they're installing the tallest and biggest American flag that local governments will allow at every restaurant across the country. Yeah. So they've got beef tallow. Yeah. And then they're doing flags. Yeah. Yeah, I'll take it. Man, they are really doubling down against, what was it? Oh my gosh, I can't think of the name of it. The restaurant that just had the remake.
SPEAKER 12 :
Cracker Barrel?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, Cracker Barrel. They're going to their roots. For steak burgers and beef tallow fries.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that's how it used to be back in the day. That's what McDonald's used to use.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm going to have to order this tonight for dinner.
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Until they found out it was cheaper to use seed oils that are much more harmful for you physically.
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I think I'm going to have to get those.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I think Steak and Shake should be a weekly thing now.
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What did you say about their fries? How did you describe their fries?
SPEAKER 12 :
They're little skinny little things.
SPEAKER 21 :
Little adorable little skinny little shoestring.
SPEAKER 12 :
I didn't say that exactly, but yeah. Skinny little ones.
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They're good. I like the fries that you can spear with a fork a bunch at a time and dip in cheese.
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Oh, the cheese sauce.
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Oh, God. I just turned into that emoji. So, the drooling emoji. Sorry. The other thing, let's see here. So, Disney... Check this headline. Thin-skinned Disney boss Bob Iger, he was said to have reinstated Kimmel because the cancellation began threatening his social life. I read this in a couple different places now. He was alarmed by Hollywood's reaction to Kimmel's suspension. So see, now they're stuck with this guy. They're stuck with this albatross. I think it's hysterical. There was a host committee of women in media and they had a fundraiser and they were considering pulling out of this fundraiser because of it. And apparently it was affecting his socialization in Hollywood. And Eisner blasted Kimmel's suspension saying, where is all the leadership gone? Well, that's former Disney boss Michael Eisner. He said that that that apparently stung him the most. So he really. Just. Didn't want his social life to be impacted. That's real leadership. Let me tell you. Talk about bending the knee. Good heavens. That's just an Eisner blasted it saying if it wasn't for university presidents, etc. Just asinine. So that tells you. I feel like that they were going to cut ties with Kimmel anyway. And they were looking for an out. And then they took this because they thought it would work. And then he wasn't prepared for a plan B. And then this happened. Meanwhile, Jimmy Kimmel will not stop whining about it. So apparently nobody... Notice how there hasn't been any other headlines about Kimmel or any other cuts about his monologues or anything because apparently that's all he's done. He has continued, it's been written, to relentlessly complain about his show's brief suspension. Every night he just bitches and moans about it. Every single night. Nobody knows because nobody's watching. They're all done. Do you think they're going to cancel him again, Cain? This time actually for bad ratings.
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I mean, they've had... They're worse than what they were. Yeah, they've had an excuse already with bad ratings. They're losing a ton. Look what happened with Stephen Colbert. He's losing the company $40 million a year. They cannot sustain it as a business. So yeah, eventually it'll have to come to that.
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I don't know.
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Or he'll have to get funny. It's like one of those two.
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And in the meantime, Dave Chappelle, he was performing at a Saudi comedy festival recently. And now I don't dislike Dave Chappelle. I think he's sometimes he can be chaos neutral, but I think it's situational. He was blasted for saying that he had more free speech. He was at the Riyadh Comedy Festival and he said, quote, right now in America, they say if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you'll get canceled. He said, I don't know if that's true, but I'm going to find out. And. Wait, if he thinks that the free that the speech is freer over there, try talking about the royal family or Mohammed. Right. Because it's illegal. You can't criticize them over there. You'll get arrested. It doesn't matter if you're a Saudi or not. You can't do that. So let's just, if you really wanted to like be ballsy and make a joke about free speech, see how far you can take it, Dave. Just make a joke about, just make an innocuous joke about the royal family.
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I mean, I see the point he was making. Like, I don't think he was literally saying that, but there are certain things that are said in the public square here in the United States that get a lot of pushback from the left, and that doesn't make it unfree to say. It just means that there's extra consequences for that free speech.
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Now, remember, Saudi law, you are not allowed to challenge directly or indirectly the religion or the king or the crown prince or the royal family. And it is illegal to cast the phrases to cast doubts on the fundamentals of Islam. That's all illegal. Yeah. And by the end, I just felt like that was a misrepresentation of Islam. what actually happened. So I don't know. Am I going to freak out about it like Trans Tifa did? No. But I just think it's funny. These people that are like, they go to places where you actually can't say things and then they're like, oh, yeah, you can't say anything in America. Just stop. We have more on the way as we roll towards, uh, Headlines coming up. We have our partners that help bring you the program. It is the folks over at Super Beats. You guys are very familiar with Super Beats. The company behind them is called Human. They were founded out of the UT Health Science Center, and they were built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. And Human is science born, not just science ish. Their products work and you can feel them working. UT athletes have used Super Beats for over a decade, and they call it their cheat code for recovery and endurance. And you can use it for the same reason, to support healthy blood pressure and circulation. Today, more than 160 college and pro teams use human products, so your favorite team probably does too. And if you've seen the human logo on the Longhorns field this football season, it's a partnership with UT and human. leading the future of cardiovascular health. The Super Beats Heart Chews by Human, two chews a day, supports healthy blood pressure, blood flow, and energy, and they use clinically studied ingredients to do so. You can pick up Super Beats at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the road to better health with human.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So now there's another smaller explosion at a refinery. This was now in Texas. I don't know. There's two of them. I don't know if they're related or not. There's not a lot of information about it. So I don't know. It's not anything I can... They just said that they're... I don't know. Just cancel the story out because there's not enough information here. Shouldn't even be included. A woman ordered coffee and paper plates on Amazon. She got a box full of 250 blank ballots.
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Where can I get that?
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Where can I get this? Can you share the link? Can you share the link? There was a woman in Maine. She placed an Amazon order for coffee, rice, and some paper plates. And then she got a box stuffed with 250 unused state election ballots. She believed that her package had been opened and re-taped. before it arrived to her door, suggesting that it may have been tampered with after it left the regional depot. And she explained that she had passed it on to the Newburgh, her town clerk, via law enforcement. They said they're cooperating, they're investigating, etc. Now, this comes just days before people in that state can begin voting by mail on a referendum about tightening restrictions on absentee voting. Interesting. Have you ever had anything like that before happen when you've ordered anything on Amazon and you've gotten literally 250 blank election ballots for your state? Never. Where could I get the Texas versions? I'm not saying I'm going to cheat or anything, but if you're going to mainstream cheating, I will cheat better than you. Let's see. A man was hit with a $19,824 parking fee due to a system error at a garage, at a parking garage. This is like apparently the second time at the same airport. It's in Colorado. It's in Denver's airport. Remember we had a story where there was a woman who was charged thousands of dollars for like two days. This guy was charged nearly 20,000 the second time in the past two months that this has happened. He was only in the garage for 27 minutes. So it should have been $7 and he got charged $20,000. And as he drove through, the credit card notifications played out on his audio system. Wow, that's insane. So are they going to fix that or what? Stephen Yates coming up. All Family Pharmacy is a family-owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications you need when you need them the most. With over 200 essential medications available, including antibiotics, antivirals, things like ivermectin, emergency kits, and more, they have you covered for everything from daily prescriptions to biohacking support. Each order includes a doctor's prescription, so there's no hassle or middleman. Plus, with fast shipping options including overnight delivery, your medications arrive quickly right to your door. And as flu season approaches, now is the time to stock your medicine cabinet with essentials like Tamiflu, antibiotics, and vitamins to help keep you and your family healthy. Being proactive with your health is smarter than reacting too late. And beyond basics, All Family Pharmacy offers biohacking products like NAD+, Methylene Blue, and so much more, all designed to boost energy, focus, immunity, and even weight management. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 to save 10% today. Don't wait. Be ready for flu season with All Family Pharmacy. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the bottom of this third hour. And the chat's at Rumble, channel 347, where you can watch the radio program. Or if you're listening terrestrially, just find us in one of the hundreds of markets around the country. Joining us now, our very good friend, Stephen Yates. You can find him on X at Yatescom. He's a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He's been traveling all around the world. He's a globetrotter. And he joins us now. We've got a lot of stuff to discuss. First and foremost, it's always good to see you. I am fascinated by this story. And I know you can shed some light on this. Tell me what is happening in Japan with this lawmaker, Sine Takachi, who could be, because I know they have elections coming up, could be the next prime minister. She's being described as the female Trump. Is that accurate?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, there's never another Trump in the world. So I think you can have people who have some Trumpisms. And so Takaichi is her name. She has in the past been in a rock and roll band and legitimately rides motorcycles. So not cut from central casting as far as prime ministers of the past. So she would be the first female Prime Minister of Japan. But I think those other qualities make her more interesting than just her gender. Now, she is legitimately a conservative. So she has been talking about pulling Japan's LDP back in a reform direction, focusing more on traditional values, taking a tougher line on immigration. And so there are elements of the Trump rebalancing in America and the world with which she'd really be a good fit for alignment. And I do think there's great opportunity in the US-Japan relationship with her leadership because alternatives either would be unpredictable or might have been more accommodating towards China. She actually might be more forward leaning than any previous prime minister and could complete the Shinzo Abe normal nation project. Something that I personally think would be a good contribution to Japan, but also the world.
SPEAKER 21 :
I read that she was that she was considered associated or allied with Shinzo Abe. And and so there's some there's a and he was immensely popular. And of course, that popularity obviously is kind of shared with her. That is a very unusual thing. candidate for Japan. Yeah. Because they're so traditional with their politics and who they want in political office. That's why I was reading about her and I'm thinking this is I've got to ask. I've got to ask Stephen Yates about this because you're not wrong.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, 25 years ago, people were wowed because former Prime Minister Koizumi had wild hair and liked Elvis. That was kind of the wackiness that came out of the system at that time. She's got even more pizzazz. But as I say, I mean, we have a real opportunity with a real conservative. This is not just an establishment politician that's burped up by the machine. She does have to sit for the election for prime minister. But if you win the leader of the LDP party, you're pretty well on the way to getting that prime ministership.
SPEAKER 21 :
Wow. And so this I mean, this is we've I feel like our alliance with Japan has always been relatively strong anyway. But in light of, you know, increasing Chinese aggression, this just seems like a major boon against that, a major win for Western values and this the alliance that we're continuing to grow with Japan.
SPEAKER 19 :
For sure. And I think she'll be in alignment with what the Trump administration has wanted to do in increasing defense spending with burden sharing by the allies. I think she would be pretty forward leaning in deterrence in the Taiwan Strait and in support of the Philippines so that you have basically the first island chain trying to push back against Chinese aggression. And that keeps the Chinese from trying to pretend as if they just have some historical beef with Taiwan. when it's obviously more than that. And this new prime minister, should she get that job, I think would be a really, really good balance the other direction.
SPEAKER 21 :
What is the, for those joining us, we're talking to our friend Steven Yates and this candidate in Japan that could be there. She's being described as a female Trump. I love the fact that she rides an actual motorcycle legitimately. That's something that's amazing. But she's being described as a female Trump. She's slated You know, as of now, at least it looks like she'll be the next prime minister. What what what is the the because it seems like that's that's a recent change in terms of acceptance in Japanese culture as it pertains to politics. What drove that? Is it immigration? Is it trade? Is it aggression with China? What contributed to the way it is right now with her kind of leading?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, first and foremost, when you're dealing with bare-knuckle politics inside a parliamentary system and inside of a political party, there's a lot of this that is sort of the beat down behind the scenes that led to that majority. That means that the titans of various factions duked it out, people who chose not to support her in the last run for the previous prime ministership swung back to her camp. I mentioned the wild-haired former Prime Minister Koizumi. His son is rising in ranks and ran last time, ran again this time, but is still seen as being too young and inexperienced and somewhat ill-defined. I think that there's also an increasing awareness in Japan that the pendulum has swung in a decidedly different direction. It's not just populism, but globalism has failed everybody. And Japan has been a very dutiful supporter of globalism. whether it's together with old Europe, the climate theology, all kinds of things. And I think that Takeichi represents a refreshing relook. She's not going to be an American conservative. She's not going to be Trump. But I think she pulls things in that direction that wouldn't otherwise happen. If you have the cookie cutter pro-business or pro-traditional LDP candidate, we just don't get the policy change that would make much difference. And Japan has to change if it's going to remain competitive in that part of the world.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, that's, it's interesting to the timeline of that, especially their previous support of globalism, which they were, didn't start out that way for sure. Last question on that, and I want to switch over to talk more about China. China's posturing. You have somebody like that leading Japan. How does China have to change in that arena?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, China will try to say, see, she's bringing up Cold War ideology, or she's unapologetic about World War II. But you know, World War II was my granddad's war. And more recent than that, China killed Americans with fentanyl and COVID. So I'm a little more focused on that than I am whether the Japan of World War II was brutal. And it was. My granddad had PTSD to his death from that experience. That generation of Japan is responsible for it, but that's not today. And I think she will, somewhat like Trump, be Japan first and unapologetically first about her country. And I think that America and Trump are completely comfortable dealing with someone like that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, that sounds it sounds like it. OK, I wanted to ask you about this story I was reading about the scandalous, the scandalous development, America's top colleges falling for a Chinese trap. They're accused of handing cutting edge military technology to Beijing. in a series of these shady partnerships. There's a number of reports on this, whether it's Fox or even Axios in the Daily Mail. Lawmakers are saying that the deals are turbocharging. China's rise is in terms of danger. It's U.S. taxpayer-funded research projects bankrolled by the Pentagon, and it's this congressional report that says all of this is being exploited by the CCP so they can develop their own surveillance tools and missiles and jets and all this other stuff. I just think China, we talked about this last week, how Qatar is the number one donor to all of these universities, with China coming in second. Why is this allowed?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, number one, because people, I think, are very cautious about, I think, telling the truth that China is in a cold war with us that risks going hot at some point, but at a minimum is engaged in comprehensive warfare against the American way of life. People can say that's extreme. The head of Nvidia might call me a daring hawk or some dastardly negative analyst because I say that they're trying to steal from us and use it to their advantage against our interests, but that's empirically what it is. But if you won't admit, that we're in a Cold War with the People's Republic of China as it is, then you allow for these kinds of programs to go without appropriate scrutiny. In the original Cold War, we never would have had sensitive government programs and technologies go out without monitoring whether the Soviets or their allies had access to said programs. And for whatever reason, we didn't put any guardrails on these kinds of things with the People's Republic of China in recent times. And this is just screaming out. Now, I don't want to go to war with China. I don't really want to go to war with much of anybody. But if they're going to kill our people and steal our technology and try to disadvantage us as a country, I do want us to at least not make it easy for them. And I would also kind of like to punch back.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I agree with that completely. And China, too. I was reading there's a massive nationwide sim farm. We're in the wrong business, Kane. Like I, I never really thought about farming, but now sin farming, you know, it's a sim farm network that's apparently threatening America, critical American infrastructure. I just I mean, surely I hesitate asking this question. Surely the United States government has been prepared for such a thing. Right. And there's they have a, you know, a way to respond to this to kind of neutralize this threat. Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, the good news is that this pretty dramatic attack focused on New York City when the president and lots of other world leaders were going to be in town was found out and thwarted. The bad news is we have no idea in open source material where else the same kinds of activities are already going on and whether we're on top of it. At the very least, this was a pretty stunning wake-up call. Again, I would not consider this to be the behavior of someone with whom you can make a reliable trade deal, someone with whom you can expect to have normal economic relations or allow thousands and thousands of their students to come into our universities. This is the behavior of an adversary. an aggressive adversary at that. And if they're playing footsie with an axis of evil, the likes of Russia invading Ukraine and Iran and its proxies threatening Israel and us, then that's pretty much one step from al-Qaeda-like activity. Now, I don't want to be the ghost of wars past talking about these kinds of things, but this is pretty stiff stuff that we're finding in these reports. Is it an act of war? And I think that it puts homeland security into hyperdrive.
SPEAKER 21 :
Would you classify it as an act of war?
SPEAKER 19 :
It definitely is. But I mean, there's so many things that are textbook acts of war. And if you don't go to war because someone engaged in an act of war, what is it? Right. And so it's provocative at the very least. It should be very chilling and sobering. But what it really ought to do is make us think, what are we doing to make them have to worry about things in their own country instead of playing defense here, waiting for something to go pop?
SPEAKER 21 :
Right. Why don't we have little hidden police stations all throughout China? I mean, that's that's something I we I agree with you. I'm so tired. I always feel like we're always on defense with us. And whether it's, you know, the police substations that we talked about before, you know, in the past year or this. And for the folks that aren't familiar, this is that story that about the cell network that was attacked. And and apparently now everybody's just discovering this massive countrywide network that the CCP has. I mean, that's. And I just think, you know, we're talking about a government, our government, that would put parents on watch lists for speaking up at school boards, but they would miss this. I mean, I'm just hoping that they didn't miss it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, no, it's absolutely true that we know that with wild woke over politicization, they did take their eye off the ball on very, very real threats. Most of America knows that from the border opening and the flood that came in. But there were lots of other areas where aggressive actors like China were doing their business, what they always do. And we made it permissive for them to do it. Now we have to get serious and dig out of that, I think, national security deficit.
SPEAKER 21 :
I agree with you. Stephen Yates, always a pleasure, my friend. You can go find him on X at Yates comms. So good to see you. Glad you were traveling safely. And we'll talk with you again soon. Have a great week.
SPEAKER 19 :
Thanks very much, Dana. Take good care.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 21 :
I keep thinking that it is insane to me that that Democrat lawmaker, the guy who wants to be Attorney General in Virginia, he reacted to a Republican... saying nice things about a recently deceased Democrat, he reacted by calling to murder said lawmaker and killing his kids. Like, how is that your response to this? Republican says something nice about Democrat and another Democrat's like, you should die.
SPEAKER 12 :
just proves to you they don't need a reason to be triggered they will decide whenever they're triggered and they can make it for whatever reason i mean imagine what he's going to do with his office if he were to win what he would do with that office if he were to win
SPEAKER 21 :
Also, isn't that like if in this climate, wouldn't you think, oh, that's nice that a Republican said something nice about a dead Democrat without without qualification?
SPEAKER 12 :
How dare you try to create unity?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, he was genuinely Gilbert was genuinely saying a nice thing about this deceased Democrat delegate. No qualifications at all. Just plain and simple. That was very, very classy. Surprisingly so, honestly, in today's era. And that he would react to it that way. I mean, I just have no words. I have no words. And all of the Democrats that are co-signing it by defending it. And now apparently they're going after Carrie Coyner. Now that's starting to build up. Democrats are going after her for retaliation. And they're going after anybody who just simply observes that this was done. It is wild. We'll have more tomorrow. Today in Stupidity Cane.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, it's Meathead. Cut 31. Rob Reiner. If you were to say what Hollywood's job was, I would say it's to entertain, maybe make some money, whatever. This is what Rob Reiner thinks Hollywood's all about.
SPEAKER 15 :
So we're well aware of what's happening. Our job now as communicators is to start communicating to the rest of the country to let them know what is going to happen to them. The two big things that an autocrat needs, they need control of the media, which is what they're trying to do.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. All right. He's just explaining the left's agenda for the last four decades. So that's fine.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I tell you what. Folks, that does it for us today. Find us on Substack, chapter and verse, YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow. Have a great night.
Join Sportsman of Colorado as we adventure into the wild side of hunting gear with the expert crew from LT Arms. Discover why survival essentials are crucial for hunting in the Rockies, and gain insights into custom cowboy hats and rifle preparations for the upcoming hunting season. This episode offers invaluable tips for hunters, both seasoned and new, on how to prepare for the unpredictable weather and terrain challenges of Colorado.
SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. Hey, we got our crew from LT Arms once again. We try to kick off every month on the first show of the month with these guys, but great to have Evan Lee back with us. Evan, good to see you. Thanks, Scott. Brandon Anderson. Good to see you, sir. Good to see you, too. How's the last few weeks gone? I guess, Brandon, since we last spoke, what's the last few weeks been like?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, we've been super busy with all kinds of stuff. We've been making cowboy hats and getting custom rifles ready for the season and getting hunting packs ready and tons of taxidermy has been coming in, tons of consignment. So, yeah, we've been busy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, people that were listening, they're going, did he just say cowboy hats? Yeah. Did he just say guns? Did he just say taxidermy? Yeah. We need a beef jerky in here somewhere, okay?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we do.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, man, seriously. And, hey, mention the cowboy hats. Man, you guys were kind enough to have me over and got me a really cool custom hat formed by your hands.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, yeah. We took the— Hat with guys, it's Hat Masters that does the classes that we took. So they're based out of the cow lot up on 44th and a little bit north of I-70 on Havana. So it's a local company, but they do custom hat shaping. And they recently started Hat College, basically. So you can go take a three-day course from them, and they teach you how to steam hats and do all the shaping and different options with them. I mean, they do everything, branding and... All kinds of fun stuff. So, yeah, we took their class. Three of us went down there and took the three-day class and learned how to be custom hat shapers.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you did a good job, man. It turned out good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, thanks.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was hoping you'd like it. Yeah, absolutely. All right, hey, a couple weeks ago, super tragic story, a couple young men, and there's been a couple of stories since about some other hunters that have gotten in trouble. Another one, I think, passed away, and another one they found, but, man, got into some shape, so got into bad shape. So I thought we'd just talk a minute just about that a little bit. You know, I hate to judge him. Because you don't know what the situation was. We weren't there, Evan. But we thought we would go through just a few things of just, man, if you haven't hunted in Colorado before, first of all, and this is your first time going to the mountains or it's your 100th time, I'm telling you what, it's unforgiving to be caught out and not know where you are, get lost, maybe not to have onyx and different things like that, but then just not to have the right gear with you. So we're just going to kind of
SPEAKER 17 :
do a little discussion about this list so evan i'll let you kick it off yeah survival basics right what do you keep in your pack for that sort of thing um i mean i'm i'm the guy that's got a i've got a tarp i've got a space blanket i've got an extra heavy duty landscape trash bag um 50 feet of 550 paracord uh way to start a fire like these balls of fire saturate some cotton balls in vaseline and keep those with you magnesium striker. Um, those are the things you can to keep you going, you know, you food and water and all that kind of thing to you. I, I basically, what I do is I plan on what happens if I get stuck out tonight and the weather changes and drops 30 degrees and it starts snowing, how am I going to make it through the night? If I can't, if I've got an injury or if I'm, if I'm stuck, um, those are the kinds of things I carry in my pack all the time. Um, Again, seems like you're carrying a lot. Yeah, it's a lot of extra weight. But what if? You've got to be protected from the unexpected. You've got to be prepared. Because as you mentioned, the Rockies can be so unforgiving and the weather can change so quick. And some folks from lower elevations don't really understand how quick it can happen. I mean, I've seen it turn so fast. Temperature drop 25, 30 degrees, start snowing, wind starts whipping. Just like an hour ago, it was sunshiny blue sky.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, we can be right here at your store and look out and go, They're saying it's going to rain, or they're saying it's going to snow. There's no way it's going to change in the next three hours, and it does. It does. So you can imagine if you're in the mountains and getting all those different jet streams, different things going on. Yeah. Man, you can be in trouble.
SPEAKER 17 :
Up there at 9,000 feet, it can happen so quickly, so quickly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We actually have been putting together some hunting packs that you can come down and get. We have some great packs in from Browning with lightweight carbon frames that keep everything nice and rigid and places to store your rifle as well as places to store all the survival stuff that Evan was mentioning. I mean, we have small propane stoves and the space blankets. They're kind of like a, it's a tarp that comes with a setup that you can make a tent in between two trees if you needed some kind of shelter. So yeah, it's something a lot of people don't consider, but it's something you definitely need to do.
SPEAKER 17 :
take to heart because like he was saying if you get you know it can change yeah on a dime and you'll be stuck out there and not know what to do yep and even with all the modern technology it's great you can you got an in reach and you can you can contact snr but snr could be 100 miles away they can be on another project um if keeping keeping a battery pack with his real good idea too no no no i know it's all extra weight guys but uh be safe yeah absolutely um
SPEAKER 04 :
As we mentioned, the game season has already kicked off. Archery, muzzleloader and all. First rifle will be opening here on the 15th. And if you are in the need of any gunsmithing, now is the time. You don't want to wait any longer, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. It's starting to get busy in here. We've got pushing three weeks wait time right now. And we try to get things turned as quick as we can. And we do offer a rush service for a charge. But it's better to just, if you need something done, get in here this weekend.
SPEAKER 04 :
And go shoot. I mean, hey, let's be honest. Most of the time we hadn't shot a rifle since last season, you know. And many times, maybe that Wednesday or Thursday before you leave, you're thinking, oh, I better go shoot some, you know. I've known guys that didn't go shoot until they got to camp, and then something was really bad, you know. And I'm like, man, why would you do that?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, check that zero before you head up to save yourself that headache.
SPEAKER 04 :
Another thing, one less thing you've got to worry about. Mm-hmm. Now, if somebody's in need and maybe they want to upgrade some optics, you guys carry some optics here in the store, too. We do. We do. We've got...
SPEAKER 17 :
We've got some really nice entry-level SIGs that are these six-hour glasses. It's very impressive, and it's a good budget option for an entry-level scope. We recently brought in GPO, German Precision Optics. We met those guys at SHOT Show this year, and it's a really, really nice scope as well, more of a mid-range. And then our higher range is more along the loophole lines, higher in loopholes than the VX5 levels. So we have a good, better, best sort of thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, there are so many companies out there in optics. It's insane. But, man, Leopold is pretty good. They are. They are.
SPEAKER 17 :
Really fantastic. And you can't beat that lifetime service warranty. They'll fix it. Anything happens, they'll fix it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you and I just walked through a deal with my Seekins Precision where we got the scope. You built some great rounds for it, and then we sent that off.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, got your custom dial turret.
SPEAKER 04 :
Got the custom dialed to it in just less than a week. I mean, which the guy told me it'd be several weeks, and, man, I had it in less than a week. In your hand. Installed, ready to go. Really cool. Absolutely. Mention the reloading, and I know you guys do a lot of classes. So, again, it's been a while since we've just run through everything that's available. Many of these are on an as-needed basis or when people call, so there's not really a set schedule to some of them. But let's just walk through the classes. So I'll let you cover what you like.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Evan's still doing his reloading classes, but we're also still providing concealed carry courses and renewals for everyone. And we're actually partnering with Guns for Everyone. And Edgar over there, he's going to be coming in three times a month, usually a Saturday. Two first Saturdays of the month and then the last Sunday. He's kind of spacing them out. Oh, okay. He's doing his four-hour classroom portion here. And you can sign up for those on gunsforeveryone.com, and they have their... their schedule on there and then they go take it usually out to empire gun club for the live fire session but so yeah we're partnering with those guys because he has a more of a capacity to handle those larger classes with everything that's been going on around here so yeah we're teaming up with those guys all right
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, a lot of changes there with what it used to be. You know, some of them I'm not really against. You know, when I got mine, you didn't have to go shoot at the range. I remember those days. And, I mean, did I mind it then? No, because I didn't want to go through some two-hour class. You know what I mean? I was just busy. Not that I think I knew everything. I was just busy. But I do think it's good, you know.
SPEAKER 17 :
A lot of us who grew up in the game, like, you know, you've been around firearms our whole lives were raised that way. It does become kind of second nature and we're already are educated, but there, we have so many first timers who they're considering their first firearm for self-defense purposes. And that level of education can't hurt. Yeah. It's a good thing. I mean, yeah, it might seem like a long class, but there's really a lot to absorb. And a lot of it isn't just the shooting aspect, but it's the legalities of what you're taking on. It's a huge responsibility to carry a firearm for self-defense and, You can get yourself in trouble. So it's better if you're educated and know what's good and what's bad and what not to do and learn about de-escalation, all the different ways that you can avoid even having to draw on another human being.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a good course. So is pricing information, though, is that on your side? Would that be on his or yours?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's on Guns for Everyone. He's doing it kind of in a tiered structure where if you can't afford to pay the price but you really want to get your CCW, he'll actually allow you to take the course for free, which is great. But he's also accepting donations, and he has it kind of in a tiered $20, $40, $60, $80, $100. He'll accept more than that if you'd like because... The money goes towards him keeping the program running, and they're also involved in some of the lawsuits that are going on right now at the state level with the SB 2503. I got a feeling every year we are alive.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're going to be saying that. We're in a lawsuit.
SPEAKER 15 :
It doesn't seem like they're going to stop trying to pass these laws. They come up with a new one, it seems, every few months now.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's pretty unfortunate. Now, for your reloading classes, kind of walk us through what... You're offering, at least, that's available.
SPEAKER 17 :
Essentially, it's a Reloading 101 course. If you've never done it before, it's an introduction to the basis of hand loading, the ballistics theory, all things internal and external. What we're going to do is sit down and go through about a 45-minute presentation and talk about terminology and all the different things and powder burn rates and primers and projectiles and all that sort of stuff you need to know. Essentially, you can read the front of any hand-loading manual and get the same thing, but a lot of guys just want to sit and talk about it. And then after about 45 minutes of that, of presentation and talking, we sit at the benches and we actually put together some ammo. We assemble ammunition hands-on at the bench, and you get to turn out 20 or 50 rounds and see what it's actually all about and see if it's for you. Do you like to do that in a one-on-one type deal? I've done it both ways. One-on-one is preferable. I think a lot of guys like it that way because we can just take it. There's no time limit. We can just go for as long as they want to go. But then I've done, you know, father-daughter teams. I've done a group of three guys that wanted to do it together. So any way is fine. I don't like doing more than about four or five in the room at a time just because the room's a little bit tight in there.
SPEAKER 04 :
We've got five set up. What do you need to kind of get started? What kind of investment are you looking at to get started with what you need?
SPEAKER 17 :
you can get really good introductory kits for about 500 bucks it's a single stage press it's got a it's got a scale it's got powder measure it's got some calipers a reloading manual some of the other smaller tools you need and that'll get you started other than dies but you got to have dies for each every cartridge and caliber you're going to load. So dyes can be 50 to 200, depending on what level you want to go to. So, but a guy could get into it for 500 and 600 bucks. And then, uh, you know, you reloading your brass cases that you've already fired. So you need primers and powder and bullets. Right. We talk about this a lot. Like, I'm going to save so much money hand loading. Well, you can, but you're also just going to buy more tools. Yeah. And you're going to shoot a lot more. Sure. But there is a huge amount of satisfaction in being able to custom tune the load to your rifle that you built yourself that you know performs, and then going out and harvesting an animal that fall with it. It's really satisfying.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. With mine, I remember you were saying, man, I got this right next to factory stuff. So, I mean, is that the goal as you're reloading?
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, achieving close to factory ammunition velocities is great, but I'm still looking for the accuracy. That's really the thing is you can enhance your accuracy. And the less spreads you have in your velocities between cartridges, you just get a lot more consistent performance.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Evan Lee is with us, also Brandon Anderson, LT Arms, 8130 Schaefer Parkway. The number is 720-727-0400. Hey, when you get by the store, be sure and let them know you heard about them here on Sportsman of Colorado. We're going to take a quick break. More with LT Arms coming right back.
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KLZ 560 AM, your home station.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Quick reminder, now you miss our live show on Saturdays from 1 to 2. You can catch us twice on Sundays, 8 to 9 a.m., 8 to 9 p.m., and then the following Thursday from 9 to 10 a.m. So four times a week you can catch us here on KLZ 560. And none of that works out for you. Hey, you can catch our podcast wherever you catch it yours. If you're just joining us, we're at LT Arms, 8130 Schaefer Parkway, visiting with the crew here, Evan Lee, Brandon Anderson. It seems like they've been on lately. We hadn't been telling Kyle, the owner, that we've been doing it. So, hey, we're just doing our own thing here now. Well, man, hey, when I came in today, Brandon, you showed me, man, a really cool gun, a Weatherby that came in. And we're going to get to about you guys getting collections from people, helping them sell them once they realize maybe they don't need them many times. You know, a husband passes away or something. The wife just doesn't know what to do with guns. So that's usually the scenario. We'll get to that in a second. But, man, tell the audience about this Weatherby you got in.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we got a phone call from a guy that had a Weatherby. He described it as a really nice old Mark V. And he said, you guys work on guns. I'm having a problem with the bolt. When I'm closing the bolt, the round's firing. And is that something you guys can do? And I said, yeah, that's definitely something we can do. And he said, now this is a really nice old Weatherby. I mean, this is probably one you've never seen before. And I was like, well, what does it look like? And he said, have you ever heard of a guy named Herb Klein? I was like, yeah, I've heard of Herb Klein before. And Herb Klein was the... He was basically the financial power behind Weatherby when it first started. He was financing about half the company. One of the all-time big North American, all over the world actually, big game hunters, hunted with the Shah of Iran. Went all over the place, and he had Weatherby make him their gold-plated high engraving. I can't even describe it on the radio.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's something you have to see.
SPEAKER 15 :
When you say high engraving, that doesn't even describe it. No, it's just ballistics charts on a plate on the stock and everything. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, the rifle I have belonged to Herb's grandson, who I'm friends with, lives up in Crested Butte. And so he's like, do you want me to bring this rifle down? And I was like, you know, he couldn't get down here fast enough. I told everybody that I was like, you will not believe what's coming through the doors. And so, yeah, he came down and he just said it was nice. And, you know, when he pulled it out of the case, we were like, yep, that is one of Herb Klein. That is one of those rifles. So. Yeah, we have the fortune to work on it, but it's, you know, it's a great historical piece. I mean, Herb was the first winner. Yeah, first winner of the Weatherby Hunting Award. It wasn't first year. I think it was third or fourth. Third, fourth year, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Jack O'Connor got it before him. Yeah, so he was part of it. Yeah, I could be wrong on that. But, yeah, he was one of the early recipients of the Weatherby Trophy. Yeah. Wow. That is so cool. Yeah, it's just amazing. The history in your hands when it walks through the door. It's fantastic. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
so basically like we said if you've got some whether it's one or two guns or you know a nice collection you guys and you were just telling me about a story where a lady brought in a couple of pieces and another couple and then you're like hey we can come to you so she finally took advantage of that yeah it turned out it was the right thing because yeah it's truckloads of stuff it's going to take
SPEAKER 17 :
ages to do this deal but it was just to piecemeal it down and drive it down the hill it's like no we'll just come to you and we'll catalog everything yeah walk through the process of what you do no we'll just essentially we'll come up and we'll catalog it on site and when we'll create spreadsheets that we will do all the estimation do the uh the appraisal and everything of all that and then we can transport it back to the shop get it in the books get it publicized photograph written up there's a lot of process to that and then Get them sold and generate a check. That way it saves them having to keep driving back and forth, all this stuff. And we'll just go and get it, take care of it, and mail you your proceeds. Right, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And your fee for that, your commission on that is?
SPEAKER 1 :
20%.
SPEAKER 04 :
20%, yeah. And you know what? People have to understand, and I tell people this all the time. I say, hey, you've got to be fair-minded in this and understand. You may have something like this Weatherby that would be worth a lot of money. Okay. But a lot of times, just because something nostalgic to you, it may not be worth what you think. So, again, they've got to trust you guys that you're trying to do them right. You don't need a museum piece in here. You want to sell it for them. Right. Okay. And so you kind of work with them on pricing and all of that.
SPEAKER 17 :
We kind of average between what current auction prices realized are for that particular item. And I use the Blue Book a little bit. But it's really... Ultimately, it's worth what someone's going to pay for.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
But we have enough traffic through here, enough customers, and enough firearms at every level of the collector spectrum. We get a pretty good handle on what things are worth, and we generally do realize top dollar for our client.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Now, you were just telling me in the break that... Some guns come with some really nice optics on it. You will sell them either way. Depends on the customer, but usually they will break them up. Yeah. But got some pretty nice ones in recently. Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 17 :
A pile of Swarovskis recently. This gentleman had all of his rifles scoped with Swarovski, Zeiss, and Leupold, just like to a rifle. And we're talking dozens of them. Yeah. So, yeah, if you don't particularly want that scope on that rifle and you just take the rifle home, then we will sell that scope for the client as well separately. And you can generally get a pretty good deal on a piece of high-end glass for less than retail.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure. If somebody's listening and they're thinking, man, okay, the season does open the 15th of October. Maybe it is time to look at a rifle. What would you say your range is? If somebody wants to get a rifle with a scope and it's all ready to go, what do you think your range of pricing would be?
SPEAKER 17 :
Probably go from, let's say, 700 out to the mid-2000s. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. That'll work. Pretty good range. Yeah. And then, again... It's under no obligation for you to come out and look at the guns, different things like that. If they decide to do business, great. If not, shake hands and we're here if you decide to differ. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
Sometimes it takes a little time. Some people have sentimental attachments to their collection. We're talking about a lifetime collection. They've built with their lifelong partner and one of them passes and you don't want to They don't want to just jump out and just start throwing that stuff away. So it can take a little bit of time. And we're cognizant of that and respectful of that. And we're not here to hurry. We're here to help you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, where we record our shows sometimes, you've got a kind of a... cool collection of guns in here. And I know there's some bayonets and stuff. So, Brandon, I mean, sometimes you get guns where they're all really, especially in the military deal, you get a lot of weird stuff like that with bayonets, all that kind of stuff with a gun.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, like you were saying, I mean, it ranges from guys that come in that have something that's more, you know, run-of-the-mill, just your average gun that isn't, you know, they're everywhere. You know, guys will come in with a Glock, and they want to get top dollar for it, which... it's hard to do. And then sometimes people bring in something that, you know, their grandpa brought back from, you know, the middle of a battlefield in the Asia, Belgium in there. This has been in the closet of my house for the last, you know, my family's, you know, collection for the last 80 years. And the, you know, it's, it's something that we, we just got a German, uh, P-38 from World War II, and we just got a 1939 Walther PPK that looks like it was made yesterday. Yeah, all the guns on the wall, we have M1 Grands with bayonets. So yeah, sometimes you get stuff that comes through the door that a guy bought 40 years ago for a couple hundred bucks. He's like, what do you think I could get for this? I paid $200 for it. I'm like, well, now it's worth about, you know, 10 or 20 times that. And they always look at you like you're making it up. And it's like, no, some of the stuff, yeah, we get some pretty cool high-end collectible stuff that people have just been sitting on and they had no idea what they had. And it's a pretty happy day for them. For both sides, we're excited to have it in the store, and they're excited too. Some of these guys are financing their retirement off of these guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's pretty impressive.
SPEAKER 04 :
No doubt, no doubt. We mentioned the show. You started off with saying everything you guys have here, and you mentioned taxidermy, so I want to mention our friend Keith. If you've been around the Denver area long, Hunter T's taxidermy was Keith's operation and came into partnership with LT Arms. So now he's here with you guys. People looking for a good taxidermist, you can handle all that right here?
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. He does some amazing work, and he is... If you have anything, it's a good idea to get it here as soon as you can because his workload is increasing by the day, and he's working on... We have a 10-foot grizzly that is coming in for a full body mount. He has all kinds of moose, and I mean, his workload over the past few months, I mean... there's probably five times the amount of stuff that was in there when he came in. He had some cool stuff in there, but now he's doing some really, really nice stuff. All the stuff that's in this room he did, we have a zebra mount in here that he did, and the turkey that's sitting in between us.
SPEAKER 04 :
I did a good job there.
SPEAKER 17 :
The Africans in the showroom and Kyle's recent water buffalo. We've got some nice examples of his work on the wall. And we're always glad to take people over there and show them what's going on. He's always very welcoming to have folks in his studio.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, absolutely. The weather's going to be changing now, hopefully a little cooler. But I can tell you I've heard a lot of nightmare stories. with some different processors for meat and with taxidermists where people just aren't taking care of the animal out in the field. I mean, it was really warm over these last months. Oh, man. Archery started, muzzleloader, different things. And, man, I've heard a lot of stories about that. So we're going to try to get Keith on. next week or so to try to give some field tips out there to you know taking care of it because they're taxidermists they're not magicians okay and uh man you gotta take care of that animal out in the field oh yeah he always has some great stories to tell too so yeah it'd be a good time i bet i bet once again it is lt arms 81 30 shaffer parkway now what are the hours
SPEAKER 15 :
We are open 10 to 7, Monday through Friday, and then 10 to 4 on Saturday. Sunday is the only day we're closed.
SPEAKER 04 :
Like Kyle, he's a slave driver. He is. Yeah. Hey, come see the guys. Anything we forgot we need to touch on?
SPEAKER 17 :
Not this week. I'm feeling overwhelmed already. It's only Thursday.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Well, hey, thanks for having me out, and we'll look forward to our visit next time. Yeah, thanks for having us on. We appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Scott. Once again, that is Evan Lee, Brandon Anderson. And when you come over to the store, be sure and let them know you heard them here on the show. And I'm telling you, if you want to get into reloading or you're into it and you have some questions, Evan can help you. And Brandon, of course, can get you all around the store, show you everything. If you need some gunsmithing work, it is here, and that crew is ready to help you as well. It is LT Arms, 8130 Schaefer Parkway, the number 720-727-0400. This is Sportsman of Colorado. We'll be back with more right after this.
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SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
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AM 560 KLZ, your home station.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Well, I tell you, when we thought of this idea back in late 2012, one of the first stores that came on board with us and became a partner with us here at Sportsman of Colorado is our next guest, Billy Paddock with the Outdoorsman's Attic. And, hey, in the last quarter here now. of 2025 uh closing out our 13th year um he helped us get started and continues to help us so for that a public thank you billy paddock how are you well thank you and now i just know exactly how long it's been son i'm i was sitting there kind of thinking before you came on and i was like man time is crazy i tell you as you get older just ah it just gets gets by us
SPEAKER 08 :
It sure does. Yeah. I mean, I remember, you know, when we when we started our shop and everything, it was shortly right before you you started on the radio. And I think it's been mutual. You've helped us out a lot. You've helped us grow throughout the years. And I truly appreciate your listeners as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, I tell you, man, I've always complimented on your idea of a consignment store for hunting, fishing, and camping. And I'm telling you, it's just a great idea. And, folks, if you haven't been by or haven't been by in a while, I highly recommend you go by. I was just about the other day checking out things because I'm telling you, you need to go in about every couple of days because things change rapidly. But it's 2650 West Hamden, actually in Sheridan. but just right off of Santa Fe and Hamden there. Used to be the old camera trader building there, so kind of on that service road there. The back of the store faces the main drag of Hamden, but you can see it quite easily. Well, Billy, like I say, I was in there the other day, man. You got a lot of stuff upstairs and downstairs. I tell you, we'll start downstairs. Man, a lot of good fishing equipment going on. Saw a lot of
SPEAKER 08 :
look like some tents you had down there so kind of give us a virtual tour through the radio yeah holy cow we're swelling up something fierce down there so yeah guys are switching out gear tis the season you know we got elk season coming up we're kind of getting into the thick of it here I'm even getting the archery guys bringing in their stuff now to get rid of because they've already filled their tags or given it up so there's quite a bit of stuff coming in I've got geez, at least half a dozen ball tents in here now, you know, ranging from like a 14 by 16 all the way up to a gigantic, you know, 15 by 22. You don't really have a party. Um, and they're in excellent shape. I mean, one, one guy, you know, it's, it's a story that I hear all the time. You know, I got a bunch of buddies, we're going to go elk hunting and then things change. And so, uh, one tent looks brand new. I don't think he ever touched it. Um, they had great intentions, but Now it's somebody's chance to get a good deal. You know, they're all Davis tents, so everybody knows the quality of Davis.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Very, very good tent for sure. And sleeping bags and, man, you know, you can just go through the list of things you have for camping or what you may need to set up a campsite there for hunting. But, man, I can't think of anything, man, you don't have covered there. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah, you know, I tell everybody that walks in the store, I got one of everything. It's just a matter of finding it in here. Just trying to organize one of one is really difficult for us. So if you got the digger kind of attitude, this is the perfect spot for you. You know, you can definitely find the right item without breaking the bank.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. Hey, while we're downstairs, we've got to mention the antique down there, Scott, your gunsmith. Be sure and tell him to listen to this. But seriously, man, now's the time to get in. Don't wait until another couple of weeks when the season opens. Man, get in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he's busy. Guys are keeping him really busy, but he's always up for that last-minute sight in or gun repair and everything to get guys back out because that's what he really enjoys is to to have people enjoy their, their, their firearms and get back out, not just sitting in a shelf. So from simple cleanings all the way to major repairs, I mean, there's nothing that Scotty can't do. Um, he's, he's been a wealth of knowledge here and he's taught me a lot throughout the years that I've known him. Um, and it's, uh, I, I call him dumb guy questions. So when I go down there, you know, I say it's a dumb guy question of the day and I'll, I'll hit him with something that I don't know. And, You know, it doesn't even take a second for him to rattle off the answer for it.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, great guy. Absolutely. Billy Paddock is our guest. Once again, it's the Outdoorsman's Attic, 2650 West Hampton there in Sheridan. When you go in, be sure and let them know you heard them here on the show. And we thank you for that. And last thing on fishing, we do want to mention you carry some live bait down there as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, yep, yeah. Ice season hopefully is going to be a good season this year, the fall catch. Guys are still bringing in a bunch of pictures from Antero, holy cow. I guess that's been going like gangbusters up there. Yeah, I mean, again, there's no reason to pay retail, guys, if I got it. It's a good way to save a buck.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, you do get quite an array. I mean, I've seen things brand new in a package. You know, you get some things that are slightly used. And, again, you don't take in junk. I just know how to say it. You know, if you don't want to use it anymore or, you know, because of the shape it's in, it's probably not something to bring. But you carry a great array of stuff. product there folks and so again i want to make 100 clear it is camping fishing and hunting gear accessories anything that falls under that umbrella you can certainly get with billy and let them take it in all right moving upstairs there now notice man your ammo counter is pretty full yeah we're we're fully stocked with ammo i can't believe it yeah long gone are the days that we couldn't get anything you know so you know even the reloading stuff's fully stocked again um
SPEAKER 08 :
I got a lot of unique calibers up there. Primers, of course, are back almost everywhere now, but I do have them. Sure. Some powders, a lot of bullets, a lot of reloading accessories, too, some dyes and some presses, that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, it's, again, you know, guys, you know, they'll come in and they'll be like, oh, man, I've been shopping on Amazon buying these primers. these dyes for X amount and you've got them brand new, right. Sitting right here for half of it. Right. Oh yeah. You know, and, and we're all kind of guilty of this, you know, in our sports, um, we get into something, we think it's going to be great, you know, buy all the junk for it. And then all of a sudden it's like, well, that didn't work out or my buddies are flakes and they don't want to go on with me. And so that's where a lot of the stuff comes from guys is, you know, we'll change calibers or whatever it is. And, Why have that just sit inside your closet collecting dust? Turn it into some money and go buy the next greatest thing, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. Exactly. And, you know, so if you've got some things, if you're looking through, hey, you've gone through spring, summer now, and into fall. So, hey, if you've got some gear hanging around there and you're like, man, might as well turn this into cash, I'm telling you, this is the place to do it. You know, Billy, it cracks me up when I look on Marketplace on Facebook sometimes. I'm like... man, who would want a bunch of people coming to your house? You know what I mean? And then you just don't know how the transaction is going to go and money and all the different things. I mean, this is a safe way to do it. And I tell people all the time for this, too. I mean, you've got to be realistic in what you're wanting to sell something for. But if you're realistic about it, I mean, you are going to tend to get a little bit, I think, more money for something in a store setting, you know, than putting something in a garage or something.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, you know, a perfect example is the lady that, you know, her husband unfortunately passed away and she was trying to deal with the marketplace thing because her daughter told her to try and sell this stuff. And it was an absolute nightmare for her. You know, for one, I don't know what it is about Facebook marketplace, but everybody takes your price and cuts it in half and then starts the negotiation process. And she got really fed up with that. And so, contacted me and i mean we've sold thousands of dollars of her stuff and she's she can't be happier and she doesn't have to deal with the public that's what i'm for that's what me and willie are here for um you know not that we're mean to anybody because i mean everybody gets a good deal in my shop well of course yeah i want everybody to to be happy and all that but at the same time you know let me do the negotiation you don't need to do that kind of stuff so
SPEAKER 04 :
And you kind of work that out with customers when they come in to, first of all, to see if it's a good fit, to see if they're realistic. Because, I mean, I know you've had the folks that come in and they think, oh, this has probably gone up in value since I've owned it. Probably not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just because it's old doesn't mean that it's a collector item. There are stuff out there that I've surprised a lot of people with what I can get out of stuff that's from the 60s. But Not everything is that way. There's value to most of the stuff that comes in, though. It really is. And that's the fun part about it is stuff that I've never seen before, I still get into the shop and go, oh, man, that's a different way of catching a fish or that's never seen that item for camping. It's kind of fun. It's kind of fun to walk around the shop, too, and see all that stuff.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know, yeah. Hey, great selection of packs, too. I mean, you've got all – I was just looking through the other day. You've got some good frame packs in there, and you've got some small packs. And, again, I always think about kids, too, and hopefully parents getting their kids out in the outdoors. If you're looking for some things there – I mean, I'll be honest, kid sizes are hard to find a lot. But as far as some packs, different things like that, man, you've got all kinds of sizes of packs in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's just it. I mean, the kids, they go through stuff so quickly. And a lot of it, you know, like clothing and the footwear. If the kid gets, you know, three or four uses out of a pair of boots and everything, and they bring it back in, they look new. And, you know, that next person is going to get a value for that. and then they're not going to have that sticker shock of going, oh, I just bought a pair of $200 Danners for my kid that's going to grow out of them in six weeks. Right, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
But, yeah, we've got a ton of packs in right now. I mean, I've got a ton of orange clothing right now, a lot of camo gear, and that stuff, as much as I don't want to be a clothing store, sometimes it turns into a clothing store, and so we like to try and, and clear that out of here before the season ends guys. So, uh, now's your chance to get good deals on, on some of the top quality clothing that I've got.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And you never know what type of optics you get, but you know, from time to time, boy, you get some great optics in there. I know you've got some spotting scopes. I think I saw in there the other day, uh, you got that and also some knives, man, you got a pretty good selection of knives in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we do. I've got a lot of skinning knives, you know, um, You know, gut knives, you know, a lot of outdoor edge stuff with the replacement blades, which a lot of guys are switching to because They're like me and get a little lazy and don't want to have to sharpen a knife.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, me too. Me too. I'm guilty. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, good. Well, folks, get by and see Billy and Haley in there and let them know, again, when you stop by, you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado. And great family-owned store. I tell you what, great folks to support. If you're looking for a good deal on some product, this is the place. If you've got some gear you're just not using anymore, and I'll go back to the kid thing. Hey, if you've got some kids' sizes and things, boy, this is something they could really use. And you know what? You would be helping another young person out get some good gear there. All right, bud. Well, hey, we appreciate it, and I'll get by and see you soon.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Sounds good. Thanks for all the support.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, bud. All right. Appreciate it. You're listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We've got to hit a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Hey, before we get out of here today, we saved the best for last. That's exactly the way our next guest told me to say it, so I said it like he wrote it. Winn Eubank joins us from Colorado Outdoors Sports. Winn, how are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm good, Scott. How about yourself?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm good, man. I'm good. Hey, I know we only got a few minutes today, but Wynn is going to join us next week. Maybe you're new to Colorado. Maybe you've lived here for your whole life. But if you are looking for some great properties to hunt and become a part of a great hunt club, this is it. Colorado Outdoor Sports. And Wynn has been a great friend of ours personally and with the show since we started. And he's got some great properties. And we're going to touch on that a little bit here at the end of the show today. But, Wynn, you just heard a couple of great guests that we had. Billy Paddock with the Outdoorsman's Attic. And you've known Billy a long time as well. And you've been a client there for a long time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. He's right down the street from me, right off of 285.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. I mean, it's awesome, man. And I'll tell you, you never know what you're going to find in there. Would you agree with that? Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Totally, you know, and you've got to pop back in now and again. I found a $180 pair of Rocky boots almost in brand-new condition for $25 off, for $25.
SPEAKER 04 :
For $25, wow, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the heavy-duty insulated ones, size 11, exactly what my size, and it was like, hey, I used to have a pair of those. Those were great boots. For $25, I'm taking them home.
SPEAKER 04 :
Man, no doubt, no doubt. And as we said on Billy's segment, hey, it's hunting, fishing, camping, and a lot of great gear. And if you've got gear, again, you're not using, run it by and let them know. Once again, you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado. And LT Arms, I mean, a great store over in Littleton there off of Kipling. And you've been a client there as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Kyle and the boys have modified five of my wife's guns and shorten them up for them. They've also customized a couple cowboy guns for me. They do great work. Everything has been done exactly as I've asked for and in great time frame.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, yep. They're a great, great store. We're so proud to have them here on the show with us as well. Well, let's talk about Colorado outdoor sports here for a few minutes and, um, kind of for those that, you know, aren't familiar and haven't heard about you before, which I know that would probably only be one or two people in Colorado, but, uh, for those that don't know, uh, how'd all this get started with Colorado outdoor sports?
SPEAKER 07 :
So I joined Colorado outdoor sports almost 30 years ago. And, uh, another person owned it at that time. And then, uh, before it was all done. he ended up not being able to continue with it. And, uh, I ended up purchasing it from him. And, uh, uh, I bought it 17 years ago. I can't believe it's been that long. And, uh, uh, I've taken it in some different directions. I, I think for the most part, better directions. Um, we're very diversified. We do a little bit of a big game, a little bit of fishing, a whole bunch of waterfowl, um, That's the primary in Colorado. But we did a little bit of rifle season for antelope open this morning, and we shot a very, very nice buck down in Unit 128. Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I saw that, man. That was awesome. So how would you say, and next week we'll have a lot more time, but how would you say, and you talk to a lot of people that belong to other clubs, and I'm sure some of your members even maybe have a couple of clubs they belong to, but what would you say is some of the high points and differences and what people tell you, you know, the difference between you and some of the others that are around the state?
SPEAKER 07 :
The very first thing is the diversity because we do have fishing and we do have other hunting and we have a little bit of camping and So we kind of mix it up a little bit compared to some other clubs that are primarily focused on waterfowl. The thing is we're extremely family-oriented. So in other words, if there's a six-man pit, we do have some next week we'll get in more about all that. But if there's a six-man pit and you and your daughter reserve that pit, you are not mandated to put four other people in that blind with you. Because we're family-oriented, and I don't want another person in there being offensive to your daughter in any fashion, either trigger finger, foul mouth, rude behavior, anything like that. You don't have to share that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And you do have some pretty good rules. I mean, there is a, you know, how you want people to act and treat property, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
And treat other landowners and treat other members.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, and normally I only have to pick up the phone once or twice, and then everybody kind of toes the line.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. And so just to make it clear, there's no guiding involved here. They simply go online, and again, next week we'll have more time to go into this, but they'll go to ColoradoOutdoorSports.com. All your reservations are done online like that. They can set up their reservations. And as you said, that's their deal for that day, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, yep, yep. You know, it's funny. I've never had to pick up the phone and recommend you about the rules, you know, you being a member and all.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I know. Hey, I try to be a very, very good member. I try to leave a property like I've never been there, right? Yeah, that's what I try to do, man. But, you know, seriously, that is something. And I think that's why it is tough for people like yourself to go knock on a door with a farm rancher and, man, some guy in the past blew it. And that is a very serious thing, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I could not get on to a quarry up in Idaho Springs for sheep hunting because For that exact reason, the guy was told to stay out of the very special section because they were blasting in there. And two days later, they found him in that section. And for liability reasons, they said, never again. Nope, never again.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. Well, it's ColoradoOutdoorSports.com. Hey, do yourself a favor. Go check it out today and write down a few questions. And like I say, Wynn's going to join us next week on the show. But his number, if you've got questions after just hearing what you've heard, give him a call, 720-300-9400. Again, that's 720-300-9400. And I'm telling you, once you sit down with Wynn and go through all the different properties he has, man, a few years ago I went out just on a doe hunt real quick. And, man, beautiful property. And it was everything that Wynn said it was. And it's always nice when you do business with someone, it ends up that way. This is a guy that we know, trust, and stand behind 100%, and you can as well. So check out Colorado Outdoor Sports, and once again, give Wynn a call, 720-300-9400. Wynn will be a part of our Mile High Hunting Fish Expo this March, and we'll talk about that some next week as well. And Wynn, we appreciate it, and man, we're going to have a good show next week with you, and thanks for jumping on here a few minutes with me today.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely, and they can find us on the web at ColoradoOutdoorSports.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, you got it. I want to thank all of our guests today. Mostly thank you for being with us. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend, and we will talk to you next week.
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The October 6th episode of Washington Watch with Tony Perkins opens with the sixth day of the government shutdown as Senate Democrats block Republican efforts to pass a continuing resolution. Congressman Michael Cloud joins Tony to discuss the political stalemate, Obamacare subsidies, and Senate resistance, framing the fight as a pivotal moment for fiscal responsibility and the doctor–patient relationship. Casey Harper reports on judicial rulings around Trump’s efforts to deploy National Guard troops to cities like Portland and Chicago, and a controversial Seattle school program distributing gender transition products without parental consent — an issue tied to an upcoming Supreme Court case on faith-based counseling. Tony then turns to the Middle East, where indirect cease-fire negotiations between Hamas and Israel are underway in Egypt over Trump’s 20-point Gaza peace plan. Victoria Coates analyzes the diplomatic dynamics, Hamas’s demands, and Israel’s conditions. Later, Senator Roger Marshall discusses the FDA’s approval of a second generic abortion drug and the dangers of Biden-era telemedicine policies that undermine Dobbs. The show closes with Michelle Bachmann reflecting on the life and legacy of Dr. James Dobson, honoring his profound impact on faith, family, and freedom.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
SPEAKER 19 :
Democrats own this. They own any lapse in funding for critical food aid programs, just as they own every other negative effect of the shutdown.
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That was Senate Majority Leader John Thune saying Democrats are responsible for the fallout from the funding lapse as the government shutdown enters day six. Welcome to this October 6th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, coming up, it is day six of the government shutdown. Texas Congressman Michael Cloud joins me shortly to discuss whether there's any sign of an agreement on the horizon. And over the weekend, a private memorial service was held for Dr. James Dobson, one of the most influential Christian leaders of the 20th century. Dr. Dobson not only founded Focus on the Family, but several other organizations, including the Family Research Council back in 1983. Dr. Dobson played a key role in helping shape the faith and family values of an entire generation. Former Congresswoman Michelle Bachman will join me later as we honor his legacy. Well, House Republicans passed a plan to keep the government open through November, allowing time for the appropriations bills to make their way through the process. But Senate Democrats continue to push a rival bill that would increase federal spending by roughly $1.5 trillion. But that measure has repeatedly failed to gain enough support in the Senate. Will they drop it and allow the government to reopen? Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper. So Casey, what are you hearing as this Democrat-led shutdown enters day six?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, Tony. Well, we're six days into the shutdown, but we're not any closer apparently to seeing any kind of deal made. And House Speaker Mike Johnson, he's urging Democrats stop the madness and come to the table.
SPEAKER 18 :
We need a handful of Democrats to stop the madness, reopen the government so that we can get to these critical debates about the year-end policy decisions with regard to the further reforms to healthcare.
SPEAKER 01 :
So the Senate is expected to vote down two plans to reopen the government today, one likely even during this program. And meanwhile, the House, they're on recess, Tony, of course, and the Senate Democrats, they're pushing their own plan, but that's expected to fail as well. So Speaker Johnson, he says the Democrats are just playing politics instead of working on the real solutions. Meanwhile, the White House, they're warning of job losses if the shutdown drags on, Tony.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, obviously, we're going to continue to watch it. But as you said, even in my conversations with members over the weekend, it doesn't look good for this reopening anytime soon. So let's move on, Casey. Cities like Portland and Chicago are dealing with ongoing protests and unrest but are rejecting federal assistance. What's the latest on the move to send federal troops, National Guard, to many of these big cities?
SPEAKER 01 :
Sure, we have some big rulings coming in, Tony. So a federal judge in Oregon blocked President Trump's plan to send National Guard troops to Portland. That judge said that there's no need to send those troops despite the ongoing protests that we've seen in footage we've seen out of Portland. Now, Illinois and the city of Chicago, they filed their own lawsuit along the same lines of an argument saying, hey, we don't want these troops either. But breaking news just came out actually that the judge declined that lawsuit. So it seems that Trump, at least for now, has the go-ahead. And the lawsuit, of course, it comes as the Trump administration, they're planning to send 700 total troops, 300 from Illinois, 400 from Texas that have been federalized into the city of Chicago, which is known for its high homicide rate. Now, the president says that Democrat-led cities are plagued by lawlessness, and that Chicago is a good example of that. But local officials, they argue the federal involvement, it only makes things worse. And, of course, they say the lawsuit claims no American should face military action because of political reasons or disagreeing with the president.
SPEAKER 20 :
Casey, speaking of Blue Cities, there's a new program in the Seattle schools that's raising alarms among parents. What's going on in Seattle?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, this is a pretty troubling story out of Seattle, Tony. Seattle Public Schools are reportedly giving gender transition products like chest binders and tucking underwear to middle and high school students without telling the parents. Yeah, you heard that right. So these items are being provided by Seattle Children's Hospital, Children's Hospital, and they're being put into school lockers without parental notification or consent, according to the report. And it's all part of this growing push to promote gender ideology in schools and keep the parents in the dark. Now, the timing's interesting because just before the Supreme Court tomorrow, actually, is Childs v. Salazar. It's a major case where a Christian counselor in Colorado, she uses biblical and faith-based counseling to help teenagers struggling with their so-called gender identity issues. Now, this counselor, though, is in hot water because Colorado, like many states, has now banned using the Bible to counsel students who are thinking about some kind of gender transition. Naturally, she argues, hey, this violates free speech. It violates my religious freedom rights. In this case, Tony, before the Supreme Court, it could have precedent that affects laws that are similar in about 30 states.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I would say this is a critical issue. We've been tracking this issue. This is not the first time the issue of transgenderism has gotten to the Supreme Court. And this really calls for prayer as well as action. And tomorrow on Washington Watch, we're going to have attorneys handling the case. They're going to join us to kind of break down the oral arguments and unpack the importance, as you say, that this case has, not just for counselors in Colorado, but counselors all across the nation. Plus, moms and dads around the country as well. Casey, I want to turn to the Middle East. What's the latest on the cease-fire negotiations between Hamas and Israel that's taking place in Egypt today?
SPEAKER 01 :
Sure. So we have some high stakes but sort of indirect talks that are taking place in Egypt to push forward President Trump's peace plan to end the Gaza war. Now Hamas, they've only partially agreed and they rejected some major parts of that plan Maybe foremost was disarmament, which has really concerned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who did say the hostages could be released any day now. Now, Trump and his team, which includes Jared Kushner, they're pressing for swift action. Let's get this done. The 20-point plan, it calls for an immediate ceasefire, humanitarian aid, and a future for Gaza free from Hamas control, though Hamas isn't totally on board with that. It's still being worked out. And this 20-point plan, Trump's really touting it. He's trying to get the deal done to end this war that Hamas kicked off almost two years ago to the day. So Israeli officials, they made clear there's no official ceasefire yet, Tony, only a temporary pause in the airstrikes. And they're ready for the IDF to go back in if Hamas bucks this deal. All right. Thanks so much, Casey. Appreciate it.
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All right. Joining me now to discuss the latest on the government shutdown is Congressman Michael Cloud, a member of the House Appropriations Committee. He represents the 27th Congressional District of Texas. Congressman Cloud, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. Well, thank you. Good to be talking with you today, Tony. Day six of the government shutdown. The Senate is set to reconvene at 530. And so that's about 15, 20 minutes. And for the fifth time, they're going to be voting on the House's the clean CR, the pass out of the House. What are we hearing?
SPEAKER 06 :
Unfortunately, not too much out of the Senate. This is all really in Schumer's hands. We've passed it out of the House with bipartisan support. This should be an easy win for the Senate to get this moving so we can continue the discussions. as we move forward on the appropriations bills that are designed to fund the government. But for people who, they will tout the slogan, people before politics, but this is all about politics. This is legislation that they voted on several times in the past, have encouraged us to support before. And now that the president's in the White House and we're working to keep the funding bill, funding going so that we can continue our work in Congress. They don't want to see that happen. And so this is unfortunately all about the politics. Some of it might be local when it comes to Schumer with his district, what he's facing. But yeah, this isn't about the issues.
SPEAKER 20 :
But to be fair, some senators on the other side of the aisle have, I guess, seen the light, if you will. We now have three members of the Senate from the other side of the aisle that have joined the Republicans in voting for the CR. That's up from one at the first vote, but we need eight.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think. Do you think the pressure will build enough that we might see eight Democrats join?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, it's going to get really tough, especially as, you know, I know the thing that's on the concern of so many of us, you know, most Americans go about their work day and aren't involved in the government day to day. This is one of those things where in D.C., a government shutdown seems to be all the news. Most Americans aren't thinking about it every single second. But the one thing it does certainly affect is our men and women in uniform. And as we get close to their payday, it Hopefully the Senate Dems can see the right thing and move this forward so we can continue our work and make sure that they get paid.
SPEAKER 20 :
So let's talk about really what's at the heart of this, Congressman Cloud. The Democrats want to continue these subsidies to Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, which were expanded during COVID. And they were funded with more government money through the rescue plan under Biden. And they're expiring now. But it's going back to what it was prior to COVID.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. There's a lot of fraud. There's a lot of waste that's gone on to the tune of $40 billion a year. And so a lot of what we've been doing and working on, whether it was in the legislation passed earlier in the year that they're also trying to push back on in this the effort that they have going on, or what they're talking about, the current issues with Medicaid. But the issues are is that the insurance company's been profiting massively off of the fraud. We need to clean it up. Everything we're working on is to make sure that this doesn't happen. And so you have people who, for example, aren't even getting a premium. You have a lot of people enrolled in Medicaid who don't even know they're enrolled in Medicaid.
SPEAKER 20 :
You have people making up to $500,000 qualifying under these subsidies for Obamacare.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and they don't even get like a $2 a month premium. So many of them don't even know they're enrolled. And so you had insurance companies running these schemes where they would hire people or people were getting paid to enroll people. They think they're signing up for a gift card and instead they're enrolled for Medicaid. Many of them don't even know they're enrolled in Medicaid. And so this is about us getting back to, and this was all supposed to be temporary COVID.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 06 :
What we saw under COVID over two years was the government grew about 30% in two years. And we were told it was all going to be temporary, right? This is just to help us get through in a pinch.
SPEAKER 20 :
And there's even more to it. There's even more to it because under Obamacare, unlike the normal appropriations under the labor, HHS and labor funding, there's no Hyde Amendment here. So this money is funding abortion, direct government funding for these health care plans that fund abortion. And that's what the Democrats want $1.5 trillion to do in part.
SPEAKER 06 :
yeah it's funding abortion it's funding illegals uh coming into our country um we've this is something taxpayers are like you know they understand uh with medicaid meeting those who are vulnerable those who are but this is not what what the the left is trying to do with this they want this program as a matter of fact one of the things we've been working to deal with is the fact that they incentivize the program seven times more than the vulnerable to get able-bodied single adult males basically have no kids at home should be in the workforce they're incentivized seven times more in many of these states to get those kind of people in the role as opposed to the the people that the the program was designed for and so anytime we say you know we're gonna we're gonna fix this we're gonna clean it up we're gonna get rid of the waste fraud and abuse we're gonna make sure this is tailored to the people who it was designed to, you'll see the left go crazy because they're all about big government, running as much dollars as we can through that.
SPEAKER 20 :
We just have about a minute left. Ultimately, the way I see this, Congressman Cloud, is that they don't want to let go of this because this is their way to take over health care permanently in this country. with government.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. I mean, that's that's been the role all along. They've destroyed the doctor patient relationship. Everything has to go through the government or through an insurer right now. And what we've seen is profits for these companies going up, but the results of care and the health of the American people going down. So it hasn't worked. Even if it was the very best intentions, it hasn't worked. Many of us would doubt those intentions because it's been not about getting Americans more care. It's about getting insurance companies more customers. That's what all the ACA was all about. And this continues to push that dynamic. And that's what they're working to protect.
SPEAKER 20 :
If not now, when? I think this is a great time to draw the line and say enough is enough. Congressman Michael Cloud, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. God bless you. All right. Going to talk Israel and Hamas next. Don't go away.
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Three years ago, the Supreme Court issued its historic Dobbs decision, a ruling that overturned Roe versus Wade, which for nearly 50 years imposed abortion on demand, silencing voters and bypassing the democratic process across the country. The Dobbs decision was a huge step forward against abortion, but it didn't outright ban it. It returned the power to the people. Now, 29 states have laws on the books protecting life. However, there's a catch. Abortion numbers since Dobbs have actually gone up with an increase of 12% since 2020, climbing from 930,000 to over 1 million in each of the most recent years. So how can this be? The answer is simple, the abortion drug. Today, over 60% of US abortions involve abortion drugs, many of these without medical oversight. In 2021, the Biden administration quietly removed bare minimum longstanding safety protocols for the abortion drug that have existed for 20 years to protect women from life-threatening risks and ensuring informed consent. The Biden DOJ then declared that they would not enforce the Comstock Act, which prevents the mailing of anything that causes an abortion. This is not only illegal, but also dangerous. A study shows nearly 11% of women who take the abortion drug end up in the emergency room with serious complications. Unless the Trump administration reverses these reckless Biden-era policies, pro-life laws will remain largely symbolic. Without a full review and repeal of Mifepristone, unborn lives will remain in grave danger and pregnant mothers will remain at risk. Let's stand for life and end this mail order abortion drug pipeline. Sign the petition urging the Trump administration to take action at frc.org slash stop chemical abortion.
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen His glory. Family Research Council invites you to join our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan as we reflect upon the life of Jesus, the Word who dwelt among us. Come with us and discover the glory of the Word. Read the Gospels and witness the life-changing story of Jesus, His life, death, and resurrection. Come read how Jesus transformed the lives of common people and how those same people transformed the known world through the power of the Holy Spirit. Come with us for 10 to 15 minutes a day and read the entire New Testament before the new year. Find our Bible reading plan in daily devotionals from Tony Perkins at frc.org slash Bible. Join us and stand on the word.
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This is Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host. Thanks for joining us on this Monday. The website, TonyPerkins.com. Also, you can find Washington Watch and the Washington Stand on the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store and get the Stand Firm app. You also can have access to my morning devotion, Stand on the Word. All that can be found. on the Stand Firm app. By the way, coming up next week, October 17th and 18th, the PrayVote Stand Summit in Southern California at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. To register and find out more, go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. All right, indirect talks between Israel and Hamas commenced today in Egypt to hash out details for a ceasefire and hostage release deal based on President Trump's 20-point peace plan for Gaza. Now, the president told reporters yesterday he expects the negotiations to take a couple of days, and in a post on Truth Social urged negotiators to move fast. But with the two sides, will the two sides be able to close the gaps as quickly as everyone would like? Joining me now to discuss this, Victoria Coates, former Deputy National Security Advisor to President Trump. She's now vice president of the Heritage Foundation's Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy. Victoria, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Of course, Tony. Great to be with you.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right. The timing of this can't be lost on people because tomorrow is the second anniversary of the October 7th terrorist attack against Israel. We're still talking about hostages being held. Are we closer to seeing an end to this war and these hostages being released?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we certainly are a lot closer than I would have thought two weeks ago. And all credit to the President and Secretary Rubio for using the United Nations General Assembly maybe for the first time for a useful purpose, which was to have a lot of bilateral meetings with Muslim-majority nations in the region to hammer out this 20-point plan. And so while you had postures like Emmanuel Macron and Keir Starmer recognizing some fictional Palestinian state at UNGA, you had the president and the secretary actually carrying out diplomacy to try to get to an end to this war. And we all know the reason we have to get there now is the hostages. The president has been a relentless advocate for them, for getting them out, because it's now two years tomorrow. Just inhumane doesn't even begin to sum it up.
SPEAKER 20 :
I just want to make this comment, a side comment along the way. You mentioned France. Macron ought to actually think about creating a French state. Their government seems to be collapsing over there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, I had that thought this morning as well when we saw that the most recent French prime minister didn't last a day in the job. And so, you know, what is he doing trying to create a Palestinian state?
SPEAKER 20 :
Were they not the first in this latest go around to call for that Palestinian state and kind of be the first domino to fall there?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yes. And I mean, they've come to visit me and explain the foolishness of my ways and why they were so wise to do that. And it's going to bring peace. Like, no, this is going to bring the opposite of peace. Thank heavens for President Trump getting in there and saying, here is a deal. The Arabs can agree to it. The Israelis can agree to it. We've never been there before, collectively. for a sort of grand bargain between the two parties. This is new.
SPEAKER 20 :
Victoria, let me ask you this question. So the Hamas, they're saying, in principle, we agree with this, but we've got a few things we need to negotiate about. One of them is whether or not they leave completely, let go of power, and let go of their weapons. I mean, that's got to be non-negotiable for Israel.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is non-negotiable. Those are, of course, key points in the president's plan. And he's been very clear. This is the plan. There's very little room for negotiations here. And we know what Hamas is saying behind the scenes, that they're looking for loopholes. They're looking for cracks that they can exploit. The president was explicit yesterday and today. If you do that, if you try to string us along, you know, all hell will break loose. And we're starting to get some idea of what that might look like. It's not pleasant for Hamas or the people of Gaza. But if that's what has to happen, that has to happen. President's giving them another option.
SPEAKER 20 :
How long can they string this? Because they've done this before. You know, you've seen this. Not the first time that they have kind of said, yeah, yeah, we agree with this in principle, only to fail to come to the table in totality.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think the difference this time is President Trump has demonstrated this year that if you try to string him along and do some kind of diplomatic dance, he's going to call you on it. We can ask the Iranians how they feel about going over their deadline and allowing then Israelis to go in, their 12-day war culminating in the strike of the B2 bombers by a president everybody thought was desperate for a deal. Guess what? He wasn't. He was desperate to end the Iranian nuclear program that was a direct threat to the United States. So I think he sees Hamas as a direct threat to Israel. Israel is a great and good partner of the United States. If he can get this resolved diplomatically, he would prefer to, but he's going to get it resolved.
SPEAKER 20 :
Victoria, you're not new to this. You've been working on this issue of Israel, Hamas, Palestinians, the PA, Palestinian Authority, all of that. And are there any aspects of the 20-point plan that you're concerned about?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, anything that's dependent on Hamas is a concern, that they're going to be a rational, normal, good faith actor. So you always have to watch all of that closely. But what's okay about it, Tony, is it is conditional. Israel stays in Gaza. The Israeli forces stay in Gaza until certain conditions are met, and Israel has to certify those. So there's no imminent departure of Israel on some Hamas timetable. The other thing is this is the first deal that is not predicated on the formation of a Palestinian state. That aspiration is left open and I believe point 19 out of 20, but that's an aspiration for the the Palestinian people living in Gaza, and they may or may not get to the conditions required to get to some kind of self-determination. We'll see. But that's not the predicate for this deal. So that's where I think this is acceptable. If the hostages come out, if the Israeli defense forces can stay in Gaza for the foreseeable future, this is acceptable.
SPEAKER 20 :
Victoria, you just have about a minute left. In this plan, it does, in one of the points, I think it might be point 16, that Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. So that really solidifies the 2005 withdrawal. Any concerns about that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we'll see. Again, I don't know how desirable that is for Israel if we are trying to use this deal to get to broader normalization in the region. I would see that as more important if the other conditions are met, if Hamas disarms, if they sue for amnesty or leave the Strip, if all of that takes place and we can get to, say, the Israel-Saudi deal that we would all love to see happen, if this is sort of what paves the way to that, I can live with that. But again, we're going to have to see what Hamas does.
SPEAKER 20 :
All right. Victoria Coates, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Tony.
SPEAKER 20 :
Victoria Coates. Well, continue to pray, folks, as those negotiations continue. All right. On the other side of the break, Kansas Senator Dr. Roger Marshall joins me. So don't go away. More Washington Watch right ahead.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in on this Monday. There's been growing pushback against the Food and Drug Administration's approval last week of a second generic version of the abortion drug, Mifeprestone. The decision was made just weeks after President Trump's health officials told concerned Republicans on Capitol Hill that they were conducting a review of the safety of Mifeprestone. Well, at the end of the week, I spoke with Senator Roger Marshall, Dr. Marshall of Kansas, for my weekend program this week on Capitol Hill. And this is what Dr. Marshall, who has practiced medicine for 25 years, he's an OBGYN, he's delivered more than 5,000 babies. I want you to hear part of that conversation.
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This is disturbing news from the FDA. You know, I never, of course, prescribed those pills, but I took care of the complications. So women would go to Wichita, get these pills prescribed, they come back, and lo and behold, they're having complications. About 11% of women have complications from these drugs, these abortion pills. They have hemorrhaging, infection, sepsis are the three main problems. And what no one tells them is they're going to have a lot of pain and cramping as well. So it is very concerning what's going on. And certainly I'm asking the FDA to step up this review process.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I mean, that was just three weeks ago. The Secretary of Health and Human Services said that they're going to look at this. There was another announcement about it. But yet the approval in the 11th hour before government shutdown is like they got this across the threshold to approve a generic version, making it cheaper. Clearly expanding it and creating more of a conflict among the states because we now have states like New York and California mailing these into pro-life states. In fact, the attorney general of Louisiana this week issuing an arrest warrant for a doctor in California.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, Tony, there's no other drug out there that would be allowed to be prescribed without a doctor seeing them in person, a drug with this many side effects. So this is the abortion industry came in under Joe Biden and allowed this to be prescribed like candy, right, without seeing a doctor in person. You know, and here's my concern. So beyond just the side effects of this drug, women are typically off a month on their dates, how far along they are. The further you are along in this pregnancy, the bigger chance of the drug failing. failing not to cause the abortion. These are category X drugs and cause significant fetal anomalies fairly commonly. So, you know, one more piece of the picture that's not being documented, one more reason why we need to demand an ultrasound be done before these abortion pills are prescribed. And again, I'm a little bit shocked that this came out at the 11th hour as well. And already today, I've got my phone calls out to the FDA and asking what's happening here.
SPEAKER 20 :
And Dr. Marshall, to the underlying issue that you bring up, the policies were changed during the Biden administration during COVID. Telemedicine and no in-personal consultation. That's been changed for pretty much everything else but the abortion pill. That policy remains in effect. for the most part, undermines what Dobbs recognized, and that was the Dobbs decision from the Supreme Court, recognizing that the states have the right to pass pro-life laws. That's being undermined by this federal policy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. And certainly, we would like to think that President Trump has been the most pro-life president we've ever seen. Thank goodness for the Supreme Court nominees that he was able to appoint. I think that was divine that he was able to do that. But this policy's kind of something that needs to be addressed by the administration. And I've been patient. You've been patient. I really think we need to take the next couple of weeks. Your listeners, you, me, all of our friends up here on Capitol Hill need to put pressure on FDA to say, what is going on with this? Why are we allowing this drug to be prescribed without an in-person visit with a physician as well as an ultrasound being done? This is not candy that they're handing out. This is a serious drug with potentially life-threatening complications.
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And folks, if you'd like to weigh in on this, you can text the word life to six, seven, seven, four, two. That's life to six, seven, seven, four, two. All right, Senator, just have a little over a minute left. I want to get your thoughts on the government shutdown. I know a lot of conversations taking place between senators. Do you see movement?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't see anything in sight right now. And the difference between this and others is this is absolutely a political shutdown that Chuck Schumer is responding to AOC, the Marxist left, the radical national media has pushed him into this corner, forcing him to do this. So he's got to wait until AOC and Bernie and the national media say, OK, you've taken this hostage long enough. Now it's go ahead in time to open the government back up right now. So we're waiting to see who blinks first. I don't think this is a policy issue. I think it's political, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER 20 :
It makes perfect sense. 20 seconds left. Do the Democrats play pay a political price for this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I do. I think every day Americans wake up and realize that a shutdown is not such a good idea as well. I think that they're going to have to shoot the hostage over these ACA COVID-era subsidies. Again, COVID-era subsidies that need to end sooner than later. So I think every day the Democrats go down this hill and more and more Americans are disgruntled. Their favorability rating is 19 percent now, an all-time low.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us on this Monday. All right, next week, like-minded believers from across the nation will gather at Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills in California for the Pray, Vote, Stand Summit, a powerful time of truth, conviction, and courage, something that's very much needed in our day and age. So one of the questions we're going to be wrestling with is, how do we communicate truth in an increasingly hostile world? Well, together, we're going to confront some of the most pressing questions of our day and equip you to be able to talk about them as well. How should Christians approach the rise of artificial intelligence? Is America on the verge of spiritual awakening? What about the sanctity of human life? And why must believers stand with Israel? We're going to talk about that. We're also going to hear profiles in Christian Courage from leaders who are standing strong, state representatives, pastors, and others who are standing and living out their faith in the public square. So I want to invite you personally to join us October 17th and 18th at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills for this inspiring and motivating gathering. Come ready to be informed, equipped, and encouraged to stand for truth without fear. To learn more, enter register, visit PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. Our word for today comes from 2 Corinthians 1. For we do not want you to be unaware, brothers, of the affliction we experience in Asia. For we were so utterly burdened beyond our strength that we despaired of life itself. Indeed, we felt that we had received the sentence of death. But that was to make us rely not on ourselves, but on God who raises the dead. He delivered us from such a deadly peril and he will deliver us on him. We have set our hope that he will deliver us again. You also must help us by prayer. So Paul begins this letter affirming his calling. Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God. Yet that divine calling did not spare him from hardship. On the contrary, he faced pressures so severe that life itself seemed uncertain. But those trials had a purpose, to teach him and us to rely not on our own strength, but on the God who raises the dead. Paul could testify that God had delivered him, was delivering him, and would deliver him again. The same God who sustained Paul will sustain you as you trust him. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. Well, over the weekend, a private memorial service was held for Dr. James Dobson, who went home to be with the Lord on August the 21st, one of America's most influential Christian leaders of the last half century. Dr. Dobson helped birth and give life to many ministries, including the Family Research Council. And he had a hand in bringing me to FRC over 22 years ago. And I want to take the rest of our program to remember Dr. Dobson and celebrate a life well lived and his legacy. And joining me now to do that, former Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann, who was also a part of the memorial service for Dr. Dobson over the weekend. She serves on the board of the James Dobson Family Institute. Additionally, she is the dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University. She's also the chair of the FRC Board of Directors. Michelle, thanks for joining me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Tony.
SPEAKER 20 :
Your thoughts on the service? I just thought it was a wonderful gathering.
SPEAKER 07 :
It really was. And I think the team with the James Dobson Family Institute, they're now in the process of doing the post-production. So I want to let your viewers know they'll be able to watch this service. And many of your viewers watched Charlie Kirk's memorial service and were so deeply touched by it. The same will happen with Dr. Dobson's service. So they'll add some post-production, and then people will see it. And it really was... in some ways very much like Charlie Kirk's memorial service and that we began with worship just as Charlie's was and then we went into the explanation of Dr. Dobson's life. It wasn't just venerating a man, it was venerating a man who'd surrendered his life completely to the Lord and how the Lord used that surrendered life to advance his kingdom.
SPEAKER 20 :
The one difference I would say between the two is that this one was solely focused on the kingdom of God.
SPEAKER 07 :
On the kingdom of God, yes. It wasn't meant to be a political service.
SPEAKER 20 :
There was nothing political about this service, although Dr. Dobson touched on it. But I thought, you know, and having known Dr. Dobson for decades, I guess about 30 years back when I was in the legislature and did the covenant marriage. I flew out to Colorado Springs and did a program with him and then worked with him from that point forward, did the Family Policy Council, which he was the visionary of... Well, and he loved you, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
Dr. Dobson loved you. He appreciated you. He was so proud of the Family Research Council and very proud that you were the leader of the Family Research Council. As you said, he was the originator of this organization and encouraged people to donate to this organization. And I'm so grateful that he did because really his presence and the gravitas that he had enabled this organization to start. And he was thrilled that it continued and that it saw 40 years while he was alive. That's tremendous.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I'm going to play a clip from him in just a moment. But I want to, I just, in fact, I was talking with, I think, Elsa. Elsa. So Prince. Prince.
SPEAKER 07 :
And she was there.
SPEAKER 20 :
She was a founding member of her husband. Actually, Ed was a founding member. Former late husband was a founding member of the family. Yeah. And helped start Family Research Council with Gary Bauer. But we were talking about. You know, I go to weddings, I go to funerals. I do both, actually. I officiate weddings and I officiate funerals. And I have to say that the older I get, the more important the funerals become because it causes you to reflect on what's important in life.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's the brevity of life.
SPEAKER 20 :
And I thought it was, you know, Dr. Dobson lived to be 89 years old. And I had a lot of conversations. We traveled. In fact, one of the road trips we took was in, I think, 2004, when you were running for president.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was running for the United States Congress. And we went to... And it was a very difficult year. The headwinds were strong with Republicans.
SPEAKER 20 :
And we did a big event in Minneapolis. Yes, you did. Dr. Dobson, Gary Bauer, myself, and a couple of others. And we had traveled the country that year doing these events. And one of the statements, one of the... I really enjoyed what Ryan and Danae had to say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, those are the children of Dr. and Shirley Dobson.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes, they're adult children. And they're the ones who know him the best. Yes. And Ryan made the comment, and I remember this because I was there. We were in Nashville, and Dr. Dobson, we had a, before the big event, we had a donor dinner, and Dr. Dobson had gotten a call that Ryan and his wife had had their first baby, Lincoln. Yes. And so Dr. Thompson, I mean, he is just all over the place. And he gets up and he says, we just had a grandbaby. I'm leaving. And so he laughed and we had to do the big arena event without him.
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Because for him, it was always family first. And you heard that message from Danae and you heard it repeated with Ryan. Yeah. And Ryan said the same thing. And he was very honest. He was very authentic. And he said, I was reckless. I did a lot of crazy things. But he said, my dad was always with me. And he said that my dad's main concern is that I would never have bitterness against God and that I would be there, that I would be there. In fact, the wristbands that they gave us, you got one at the service, the wristbands that they gave us said, be there. Yeah. Because that was Dr. Dobson's prayer for his children first, but for all of us, that we would come to know the Savior. So his ministry focused on salvation. It focused on discipleship. It focused on marriage and family and parenting and protecting human life and public policy. All the things that the Family Research Council plays out. But one thing I want your viewers to know is that this service, they'll love it when it comes out, when they can see it. But it really was about faith and family and freedom. Consistently throughout. And it was a ceremony that was worthy of this man because I agree. I told Dr. Dobbs many times because I had a lot of chances. He asked me to join his board, and it was one of the greatest honors of my life. And what Jim wanted was friendships. His whole thing was friendships. People can't even believe how humble this man was. He was extremely humble and he just wanted to know you. He wanted to know who you were. But he was a surrendered saint. Everything about him, extremely hardworking individual. And he worked right up until the end when he was 89. He worked right up to that. He poured everything out for the advancement of the kingdom. And this service was worthy because it gave you the full picture of Dr. Dobson's profound life. Other than Billy Graham as the chief evangelist of this last half century, I think there's no one that contributed more to advancing the kingdom than Dr. James Dobson.
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And his orientation was the family. family and that's where the transformation took place and I remember when I came here 22 years or so ago and in our first week we I was here he wanted me to come it was in August and we went to Georgia for actually Alabama for a rally on the Ten Commandments with justice Roy Moore and And that was my first week, and so I'm speaking on the steps there. And then there became some complications with me actually moving here to D.C. From Louisiana. From Louisiana. And so I, for the first year, just commuted. In fact, I've been doing that for 22 years. But there was some question as to whether or not I would continue that. And I remember Dr. Dobson came to our home in Louisiana, had dinner with us, and spent time with my kids, who at the time only had four, but they were all young. And And after he spent time with the kids, he came back to the board and he said, this is the right thing for Tony because his family is healthy and well. And he understood that. The sacrifice that you make. But he understood that the family was the most important thing. So it was what was best for the family, whether it was me as the leader of the Family Research Council or it was for a clerk working at a store. What was best for the family was best for society and for every organization.
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And for an organization. And he did that as well. He had an annual event called The Gathering. And I was able to be at his events because I served on his board. We had Charlie Kirk there at the last gathering. the last gathering that he attended before he died. And the one thing he did, he pulled Charlie aside and had private time with him and talked with him about his kids because he saw that Charlie was living the life that a young James Dobson had lived. And he told him, the most important thing is that little girl. And that little boy and Charlie and all this busyness, the main thing is you have to have time with those kids and be with those kids. And then we went on to find out through Erica Kirk that Charlie's last book was on the Sabbath and the importance of his family and that he literally put his phone in a drawer and didn't look at his phone. And it was focused on Erica and the children. And he was trying to live this life that Dr. Dobson had counseled him would be the wisest way for him as a Christian leader to do. You did that. as a young man your children are now adult children they benefited from that wisdom because you serve in a high capacity very public life but you also you're a minister to your wife you minister to your children and you made sure that they had the primary situation as a matter of fact it was said that dr dobson had a private phone installed in his office so that whether it was Danae, Ryan, or Shirley, they could call any time. And so if he was in a board meeting, he'd leave the board meeting, and he would take the call for any reason and talk to his family. And each one of them said Shirley Dobson was there, and she didn't speak, but each one of them said that, my dad, I knew that I was first and that our family was first. He walked what he talked.
SPEAKER 20 :
And the kids gave testimony of that at the funeral and the memorial service. It was precious. It was powerful.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was a privilege to be there. And your viewers can all be there, too, once the funeral is released from the film version.
SPEAKER 20 :
We just have a few minutes left. I want to play a clip. I had the ability, the opportunity, the privilege of sitting down, probably one of the last interviews that he did. I think so. Now, this was about two years ago, but it was
SPEAKER 07 :
With our 40th anniversary. With our 40th anniversary.
SPEAKER 20 :
And this is actually a portion that has not aired. We did not use this in the 40th celebration. But I want to play it here and then we'll talk about it as we close out the program. Speaking of that long game. and that long view on the issue of life, the sanctity of human life. I mean, that's what brought me into the political arena 30 years ago. It's a passion of yours. And we took a lot of criticism for being involved in elections, electing pro-life candidates, pro-life presidents. but look where it's led us to a point where we've in our lifetime we've seen the overturn of roe v wade and an opportunity for the nation to get it right when it comes to the sanctity of human life you know i don't consider myself a prophet and i'm not one but i did have a perspective on where things were going and i saw that the family was going to be decimated
SPEAKER 17 :
I saw that the institution of marriage was going to be targeted. And I saw some of these movements. Roe v. Wade had just been passed in 1973. This was 1977. So I had a lot of reason for concern. That's why I left the university. and trying to do what we could to save some. During the 80s, I would talk like this, and people would say, I don't really understand what you're saying, or they didn't get it. And now they come up to me and say, I heard it, I didn't believe it, and now I do.
SPEAKER 20 :
Now they're experiencing it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. It's come full board.
SPEAKER 20 :
You know, Michelle, when you understand the Word of God and as God lays out certain things, you can see what's coming. Dr. Dobson saw that. We see that. And now it's an opportunity for the church to respond.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is, and the church is responding, and they did respond. And the reason why Roe v. Wade was overturned was because the church did get involved. Pray, vote, stand. They did all of that. And now the church is going to do that in this area of chemical abortion. That is the next step that we have to deal with, because that's horrendous. It's occurring now in America. People don't realize that, even though we had the overturning of the decision. So this is our next step that we're working on. And Dr. Dobson led the way. He was a great intellect. He served on the medical school faculty at the USC School of Medicine. He was an intellect, and so he put aside his career, which was very high-powered, in order to advance the kingdom of God through the areas. And so that's what's happening here now with Family Research Council, too. We're taking that admonition and moving forward.
SPEAKER 20 :
Michelle Bachmann, I want to thank you for joining us today. It was great to see you this weekend in Denver, and it's great to see you here today in Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's always good to be with you, and Family Research Council's doing great under your leadership. Thank you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you, Michelle. And, folks, I want to thank you for joining us as well and encourage you with the words of the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything that you can do, when you've prayed, when you've prepared, and when you've taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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In a historic move, indirect peace talks between Israel and Hamas have commenced in Cairo, sparking hope for an end to the long-standing conflict. Pressures mount as international delegations join forces, urging Hamas to adhere to a plan that promises hostages' release and a subsequent ceasefire. However, skepticism remains with many questioning the group's true intentions after witnessing years of persistent conflict. President Trump's firm ultimatum stands: a call for peace or complete obliteration. Join us as we delve into the intricacies of these negotiations and discuss the potential impacts on global politics and anti-Semitic tensions.
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President Trump makes final warning to Hamas, ceasefire now or complete obliteration.
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Welcome to Sekula. Will Haines joining me in studio. CeCe Heil later on. Mike Pompeo also later on. It's going to be a packed show. Give us a call if you have a question or comment at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. Excited to have us be back here on a Monday as we are still awaiting A formal response. It seems like it's going to happen, though, from Hamas, as things seem to be heading in the right direction for a potential end to the war. President Trump is certainly not backing down, saying that kind of this is it, now or never, it's time, or really they're going to give the A-OK to Israel to do what they have to do. And, of course, that is not what is wanted. That certainly is not wanted from the Trump administration. They want to see peace. They want to see some kind of negotiated deal. But it's now in Hamas's court, if you will, as it's been for numerous days now. But now we are seeing potentially as they're having what? What do they call them? Their meetings, but they're not together.
SPEAKER 07 :
Negotiations, their indirect talks between Israel and Hamas. And this comes after Hamas said they're committed to reaching an agreement to end the war. What they are negotiating in Cairo today is, and there's American delegations there, there's from the other Arab partners have delegations there, as well as Israel and Hamas, is they are negotiating how they will carry out that first step of the plan, which is release all the hostages and begin the ceasefire. So that's what they're talking about today. They are expected to get into the technical details of how to implement that first phase. All the other things flow after that. So if they can't even get to an agreement of how to release the hostages and start that ceasefire, then none of the other stuff will flow from that. But Hamas is saying they're committed to reaching an agreement. We'll see what happens today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, hopefully we get some sort of answers today. We'll keep you updated throughout the day if there is anything big and breaking. that we'll need to cover. So make sure if you're watching right now to subscribe on our YouTube channel or wherever you get our show, make sure you're a part of the team right now. That's at aclj.org. Phone lines, like I said, are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. That is to have your voice heard on the air. Do you think this is it? Now there's obviously the thought process of, what does the end of a war really look like when you fought a multi-thousand year war what does it look like from the response from the more liberal side of this are they going to be happy i mean some of my friends are are happy in general that are more on the other side of this they want the war to just be over and they want if you just are searching for an end of a war that's great they've already seen the seeds being planted of well that's not going to forgive israel for what they've done for the genocide that they've, quote unquote, genocide that they have put onto these people. So then what does that look like then? Does the protest still happen? Do they still happen in the streets? Do we still see a response, an anti-Semitic response throughout the world? That is going to be the turning point that we see. There's honestly another interesting bit of this is in how the Jewish people are accepted and how Israelis are accepted around the world. We saw a number of performers and artists, musicians, pull their music, geo-block their music from Israel as if that is going to really do any good, that doesn't come off racist at all, that you are blaming an entire country over what their government, you've decided the government's not going to do. But you also see cancellations. Robbie Williams, who's a big... Probably one of the biggest stars on a global platform. Not really as big of America's success, but he's been a huge star outside of America. He has a stadium tour right now that was supposed to end in Turkey this week. I think it was actually supposed to be tomorrow. So on October 7th, it was supposed to end on October 7th. They've had so many threats, and his wife is a Turkish-born Jewish woman. They've had so many threats calling him a Zionist that Turkey decided that they could not figure out a way to secure that stadium enough to have the show and cancel the end of their tour, which was supposed to end in this big celebratory night of, again, probably the least political show you probably could go to, would be to see Robbie Williams. But of course, because he has some Jewish connections and has a Hebrew tattoo, that is enough. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Also, think about supporting the work of the ACLJ. If you become an ACLJ champion today, I want to say thank you to all the champions already, the tens of thousands of you. But if you can become a champion, that's great. That's someone who gives on a monthly basis. Go to ACLJ.org. Scan the QR code that's on your screen. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Thanks for joining us today. Again, Will Haines in studio with me right now, and we'll have some other guests later on. As we are talking about the plan right now that could end the war in Gaza, as we have a final deal, Will, that is sitting on the shoulders of Israel. They have agreed to it, but Hamas has not yet fully agreed. Even though they've said, we'll release all the hostages, they have not come to the final agreements on some of the planned Following steps. Following steps, which were pretty aggressive, which would have been very impressive if President Trump was able to pull that off. But they're even calling this the Trump plan. We're seeing that the way Netanyahu is referring to this. And he even said if the Trump plan doesn't get signed, then America is sort of given the go-ahead for them to finish the job.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and that's why these next few days are so important to this because they are there actually negotiating how to implement the first portions of this plan, which that was what President Trump was very clear about up front is that all the hostages have to be released. So remember, there's 48 hostages that they believe are remaining either alive or dead in the hands of Hamas at this point they are demanding all of those whether living or the remains of those that have passed away or been killed by Hamas to be returned to Israel on the other side of that there's some prisoner releases that can come from this from the Israeli side giving back to the Palestinian side some of those are people that were arrested post-October 7th Others are people that were just in prison in Israel from previous times as well. There's normally, whenever you get to one of the end of these wars between Israel and Hamas, there is this kind of prisoner swap situation going on. Normally, it's not civilian hostages that you're dealing with. So if we can get that done in the next few days, if they can come to a framework where where that piece begins and all the hostages are returned home, as well as the beginning of that ceasefire. I think that gives a very big sign to the world that we could see this get all the way to the end. Because the other parts, once they start giving up what really has been their bargaining chip to some degree, the other parts, it's going to be harder for them to push back when you've got Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, qadr the uae turkey all of these countries that are more favorable to the cause of the palestinians than they are to israel saying hey you're gonna get this done this time yeah there's a there's a call coming in i want to take because it kind of it begs that question let's go to phil in new york who is listening on the radio phil go ahead
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Don't get me wrong when I ask this. I'm a fervent supporter of Israel, and I donate a lot of money to Israeli charities. That having been said, self-preservation is a strong motive, both for an individual and an organization. Why, therefore, would Hamas agree to a deal that gets rid of them?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Phil, I understand your point here. It does call for the end of Hamas. What it doesn't do is it really gives immunity to all of those currently Working with Hamas, the leadership, they're going to be held for no issues, no criminality. Kind of all is forgiven in a way. So there's two different options. They can either stay in the country and agree to nonviolence or they can not agree to nonviolence and be moved to another country. But either way, the deal actually provides for the people who currently are in Hamas uh to walk away to end this so i mean yes self-preservation is strong this could be the self-preservation they need because we know when the israeli military comes in because these are the like what this is like the 10th string yeah hamas leadership at this point well and phil i think that you were spot on by saying self-preservation is a strong motive for anyone
SPEAKER 07 :
Because I think a lot of the people that are the leaders of Hamas now have seen the writing on the wall. People like Yahya Senwar, who was untouchable, really, for some reason. They can never really take out the leadership of Hamas. And that has happened. So they've seen these people that are in the position now probably never expected ever to rise to the level of leadership in Hamas that they have now. They've seen all their previous leadership be killed by Israel. They know that Israel is going to keep doing that. If it gives this disavow violence and stay in Gaza, they can remain where they are or safe passage out. That is the most motivating factor here would be self-preservation on a personal level. But I also do want to point out in their response that they sent To President Trump on this is the on Hamas's response to US President Trump's proposal. This is a statement President Trump put it out on True Social. They say they go through a lot of the stuff before and says as for other issues included in President Trump's proposal concerning the future of the Gaza Strip. and then the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people. This is tied to a collective national position and in accordance with relevant international laws and resolutions to be discussed within a comprehensive Palestinian national framework in which Hamas will be included and will contribute with full responsibility. So that is one of the hangups that they will have to negotiate out. Hamas is at least on board to start this movement. But remember, they're also iffy and probably having a lot of internal discussion and disagreement about that key point, Phil. There are probably those true believers still that are like, no, Hamas, we're going to get back to running this one day. We shouldn't just allow them to disband us and scatter us throughout the Middle East.
SPEAKER 04 :
And of course, tomorrow is the anniversary. It's October 7th tomorrow. We know that things will be heated tomorrow. There will be, not just emotionally, you will see security ramped up in a lot of these areas in Israel and probably around Europe, around the country, maybe even around the world. There may be even more security here. As we know, this is going to be a moment of contention. So if they could come up with agreement tonight, that could change everything. If you actually see some of these hostages being released in the next 24 hours, But maybe you do have that sort of goodwill signal that brings us to what could be at least a quote unquote end of the war. And when we say that, look, I understand this is the Middle East. I understand these are religiously motivated people. These are people that are not going to just, like you said, easily stand down. And there will always be fringe. There will always be the fringe terror groups, not just Hamas as leadership. There will be sure members of those teams. There will always be this kind of terror crime that happens in the Middle East. I'm obviously afraid that there won't be. But if history has told us one thing, that it doesn't just go away completely. Now, there are times of relative peace. You could say there was a large amount of years there in Israel where, sure, there were moments and rockets and those kind of things, but it wasn't. an all-out war. So hopefully we at least can get back to that, get back to a standard where you feel comfortable as a tourist, you feel comfortable visiting Israel, that they've made Gaza a place where you could visit potentially after a certain amount of time of rebuilding and everything that they could do there. Because we've represented people in those areas. There's Christians in those areas. There were Jewish people in those areas. The only ones that are left right now are those that are being held hostage. So remember that as well. The only Jewish people in Gaza currently are either military right now or the only civilians are those who are there as hostages. And look, we'll see also what this looks like. We know that before the numbers of hostages that were available to be released, if you will, was not as high as they were expecting. Hopefully that's not the case. Hopefully the intelligence says that a lot of them are alive and that you'll at least have 20 or so people who can be freed. But we'll see and we'll keep you updated. Look, this is our ongoing fight here. You have seen so much of a turn against Israel over the last few weeks, last few months in the mainstream press, in the conservative sphere, that it's obviously put a lot of us, a lot of stress on a lot of us who are supportive. Again, you don't have to be supportive of a government. I understand there are people who support the idea of America, but did Nona support President Trump or didn't support Joe Biden? Of course, we'd be critical of a government. But the idea of extinguishing a country and making sure a country doesn't exist is very different. You can disagree with, of course, they're just as partisan there as we are here. As you are, by the way, look at the rest of the world. Look what's going on in the UK. Look what's going on in Europe. We're all kind of going through this same moment in time in a lot of these places. And let's say the Western world.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I think what will be very telling is if this goes through and this entire plan gets implemented, and that would be a historic feat. If those people that are going around protesting Israel, targeting Jews in public, does that stop? Or is the mask really pulled off? Is it really, you know what? They weren't really about the Palestinian people. They really were the entire time just wanting the destruction of Israel. Were they really just targeting Jews? Were they really just supporting Hamas? I think that will tell us a lot. if this doesn't kind of cool down around the world.
SPEAKER 04 :
I saw, I have to look at what the actress was. And it was an actress I was not that familiar with, but she's a famous actress. And she put up when Larry Ellison is purchasing TikTok. Right. She put, here's the new TikTok logo. It was the colors of TikTok, but it was the star of David. And say like, that's all it's going to be now. Controlled media by Jewish people. That's different. That's a different conversation. It's like you're confusing so many different things. and lumping them all together. We've been preaching that for years and years, but here we are. And with that, phone lines are open. Six lines right now. 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you. Coming up, CeCe Hiles is going to be joining us. We're going to give you a little bit of an update on a case involving the ACLJ that you're going to like. You're not going to want to miss that. So if you want a little break from the Israel content, that's what's coming up next. We'll circle back around as well, though, in the next half hour. And then we'll be joined by Mike Pompeo to wrap up the show with your calls and comments. Again, phone lines are open for you. And support the work of the ACLJ today if you can. While we're in break, go to ACLJ.org. Make a donation. Become a champion. Welcome back to Seculo. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. CeCe Hiles joining us here, senior attorney at the ACLJ with a bit of an update on another outrageous ACLJ case. One of those ones you can't believe is true. Of course, a lot of times these are on a small scale. You think, okay, this is going to be an individual, but of course that affects everyone worldwide, nationwide at least. And this one just feels unbelievable when you're talking about people of faith Being treated differently. You don't want to say the word persecuted because we can think of that as what's going on around the world and in a global sense of what's happening in all over the world for Christians that are being murdered for their faith. We're not talking about that. We are talking about people that are being treated unjustly or being treated differently just because they've decided they want to be, they want to talk about their faith. So I'll let you set this up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and here we're going to talk once again about a Bible club in a school, which everyone who's listening would probably say, why are we talking about a Bible club? Of course, Bible clubs can be set up at school. You can have a Bible club at school. But unfortunately, we still fight this, even though we've gone all the way to the Supreme Court, and Jay Sekulow, your father, has won this issue multiple times at the Supreme Court level. Of course, you can have a Bible club. However, in Minnesota, they don't know that. So we are representing a ninth grade girl who in May, and this is what's even more egregious about this. In May, she went to the principal to say that she wanted to start a Bible club. And after he grilled her for a long time of what she was going to discuss, what her club was about, he said, you need to come and talk to me back in September. So shut her down in May, tells her to come back in September. She comes back in September and she says that she wants to set up this Bible club and she also wants to have a see you at the pole prayer time. Of course, what his response is to CU at the poll is you're too late. Even though he shut her down in May when she was very much on time, you're too late when he tells her to come back in September. So she doesn't get to do CU at the poll, which is constitutionally protected right that she can do. But on top of that, she's told that she can have a Bible club, but she has to pay for it. Now, none of the other student clubs have to pay. What does that even mean?
SPEAKER 07 :
Basically, you have to rent the space in the school to have your student club. But there's other clubs. There's Boy Scouts that meet there. There's Girl Scouts. There's 4-H club. There's a litany of clubs that take place. Treating like a church renting out a theater. And that's the rub there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
The principal, instead of classifying it as a student-run group like the secular groups, the principal decided to categorize this Bible study club as a church instead of a student-run group.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And they actually have different allocations for like there's a group, B group, C group, D group. And the B group is the student led groups. But she's not being charged under that. She's not being allowed to operate under that. She's now moved into a church group, which is completely different. This is a student. Ninth grade student.
SPEAKER 04 :
So how is this not just like open and shut, done tomorrow?
SPEAKER 05 :
It is, and here's the thing. We have sent a demand letter, which we always try to do, settle it out of court. We have given them until we give them a week. We've given them until Wednesday to respond. If they do not, we will be filing on Thursday. And again, we believe that the courts, it will be open and shut because you have the Equal Access Act and the First Amendment that protects this Completely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and it's back to that, the old from the court case, but Des Moines, where it's you don't check your you don't lose your constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate. And here specifically, it's classic viewpoint discrimination.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
You can have a club that student run free of charge at our school, use the facilities unless it's a Christian group. then you have to pay to use the school facilities. If that was across the board, school groups have to pay a small fee to rent the space. That wouldn't be the constitutional violation. I mean, students may not, and parents may not be happy with that, but you can't say all of these get to just use the facilities. But you, we're going to consider you a church ninth grade student that wants to have a Christian club here. That's why it's so absurd. And honestly- Shocking that it got even this far.
SPEAKER 05 :
To this point, that's right. And exactly what you said, the Equal Access Act, was implemented specifically for that, saying that you cannot treat a club differently just because of its faith message. And in fact, if you do, that's not neutrality, that's hostility, and that's not allowed. And that's exactly what we're seeing here, hostility to a specific message. They've shut her down, but we're ready to take this all the way up. I'm hopeful that they really just don't know what they're doing. And that our letter will, you know, get before their school attorney and this will be resolved quickly. They definitely don't know what they're doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I understand what you mean, that they're not being hostile. They are just being dumb. They just don't know the law, that they don't understand that there is a difference here. And of course, we can show that to them real quickly. The difference is, though, listen, I mean, audience wise, if you're watching, listen to this. We have CeCe. We have our entire ACLJ team. This is not free. It sounds laughable when you hear that this is what's going to happen. You're going to charge a ninth grader to run a Bible study or Bible club in her neighborhood. school where all the other clubs don't have to pay some sort of fee. It sounds ridiculous, but because the fact that we're able to do this and we're able to actually go to court if necessary for this student, or even what we've had to put hours in already, to have attorneys attached to this, to have staff attached to this, to give it airtime. I mean, this is a real, this costs a real money. And that's when we ask for support. We tell people to support the work of the ACLJ. It's because these people cannot do this without us. Likely this would have been swept under the rug. No one would have ever known. But because we're able to offer our services for free to these students, to parents, to people who need it, To you, if you're watching right now, that is because people become ACLJ supporters. What's on the screen right now, ACLJ champions, people that give on a monthly basis because we would not be able to do this without you. They would not be able to go to court or even have professional lawyers assigned to do this for free.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's exactly right. Legal fees and litigation costs can be absurd. And most of these cases would never go anywhere and these rights would not be defended. But for our supporters at the ACLJ who allow us to do these cases over and over again, and we need to keep fighting, obviously.
SPEAKER 07 :
And honestly, a lot of times the bad actors, if they have a bias against people of faith or that is why they're choosing to do what they're doing, they almost bank on the fact that the person whose rights they're violating doesn't have the resources to actually fight it. Because it is so expensive. And if Wednesday comes and goes and we're in federal court... That's only happening because the ACLJ can go and be there with this ninth grade student. Without that, how many ninth graders around this country are having similar things happen, and they haven't heard about the ACLJ, they don't know it's an option for them to fight back in court, and they think I'm just on my own. There's no way I can ever afford it. I just won't have the Bible study, or I'll just have people over to my house. That's not how it should be, but unfortunately, that's how a lot of those things naturally play out. because they don't expect someone like the ACLJ to get involved. But when we do, we use the full force of the ACLJ to go after and protect these students' rights. And if you're just hearing about this for the first time, go to aclj.org slash help if you or someone you know has had something similar happen. Because the school year's back up and running. And I like to say that's a constitutional violation season around the country. Yeah, it's October. That means Christmas programs are starting. Right. So go ahead and go to ACLJ.org slash help if you or someone you know has had something similar at your school.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, we got a second half hour coming up. Make sure you join us. If you don't get us live on your local station, we're broadcasting live each and every day, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. That is on ACLJ.org, YouTube channel, however you get us, Rumble. You can find us always there. And of course, archive later on, however you get your podcasts. We're available there as well. Give me a call. We got some lines open at 1-800-684-3110. Going to talk about this. Going to talk a little more about Israel. We got a lot more coming up. Mike Pompeo is going to be joining us. So stay tuned or find us online at ACLJ.org. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 06 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to the second half hour of Secula. Will Haynes joining me in studio, executive producer here of the show. Mike Pompeo is going to be joining us a little bit later, so stay tuned for that. Of course, we are talking about a few different topics. If you've just tuned in, you may have missed our topic we just did, which is on a case for the ACLJ, our organization here, the American Center for Law and Justice, where cases you think should be settled law, things will be done. Kids trying to start Bible clubs. And there are local schools being told, no, you have to be charged, eighth grader, ninth grader, because you're a church. You're not a student-led Bible club. And of course, we're going to take that to court. And we can't do that without you. And that's why we ask for support, because all of that, no one gets charged for that. These students don't get charged for it. Their parents don't get charged for it. We're able to offer it completely free. You have the best of the best. That's because of our team here. And I always want to make sure you know that. Not just our media team, which, of course, the same with this show as well. The show doesn't happen. You hear ads maybe in your local market. That doesn't go to us. You get YouTube ads. The amount of money that is is so minuscule compared to the amount of money it costs to put on this show. So know when you support us, you support the media side and the legal side because both are incredibly important. We have to be able to share the word and also go to court when necessary. Of course, we are also talking about, well, the moment right now, the closest we've been in two years, and look, it's two years tomorrow. was the start of this whole conflict where Hamas brutally murdered a thousand plus people who were just going to music festivals or in a kibbutz, paragliding in, all the things that we saw, the horrible imagery. I believe it's been two years of battle since then. Now, some of it has been the global PR messaging between Israel and Hamas, and the lack of support from Israel has been shocking. I wouldn't even say shocking. It's not shocking. Maybe the anti-Semitic rhetoric that has surrounded this, not just people who don't support the government of Israel, anti-Semitic rhetoric that has surrounded this has been extreme. And of course, now we are at the two-year mark just tomorrow, and there is a deal on the table.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right, and I think we should hear this from Secretary of State Marco Rubio. He was on, I believe it was Meet the Press yesterday and some of the other Sunday shows, Fox News Sunday, etc., talking about this, making the rounds, getting this out there. And here's what he had to say about the negotiations that are starting today that are about the implementation of the deal, that first phase, which is getting the hostages home. Let's go ahead and play Byte 4.
SPEAKER 02 :
No one here can tell you this is 100% guaranteed. We are dealing at the end of the day with Hamas. This is the group that October 7th, two years ago, came in and basically butchered babies and teenage girls at a music concert and took hostages and did horrific atrocities. That's who we're dealing with here. We're not dealing with a political movement. We are dealing with killers and savages and terrorists. That's who we're dealing with. That said, what gives you hope here is that at least there now is a framework for how all of this can come to an end and those hostages can be released. What gives you hope here is the fact that for the first time in this entire endeavor, you have... the United Arab Emirates, you have Qatar, you have Saudi Arabia, you have Turkey, you have Egypt, you have Jordan, you have Indonesia, you have all these countries, the European countries, all lined up behind a plan and putting a tremendous amount of pressure to make it happen. And President Trump's the one that put that together.
SPEAKER 07 :
And once again, even as we talked about, when this framework came out, Just over a week ago, I believe. I mean, it wasn't very long ago. There was kind of this feeling, it's like, this could never happen. There's no way. And even the Secretary of State, he says, nothing is 100% when you're dealing with Hamas. But this is the first time we've seen conditions like this, where there is external pressure, not from just the countries that support Israel, like the United States and maybe a handful of European countries that still exist that support Israel, but from those that are more favorable to the Palestinian cause. When you're seeing the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia, Jordan, Indonesia, by the way, largest Muslim population in the world, all coming together and saying, this needs to get done. That's the first time you could see this real breakthrough. Now, does it mean that the threat of radical Islam against the Jewish people will go away? Of course not. And I don't think anyone would ever think that that is gonna be the case out of this. That's thousands of years of history. But this current battle with this government that has been established in Gaza for decades, could go away and see a more peaceful time for the state of Israel and for the people that are Palestinian that have had to endure this for so long.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, next up, Mike Pompeo is joining us. He knows a little bit about peace in the Middle East as one of the framework founders of the Abraham Accords. We're going to talk about that and so much more coming up in just a moment. Welcome back to Seculo. Mike Pompeo is joining us right now, Senior Counsel for Global Affairs. Secretary Pompeo, first question, obviously, the big news over the weekend, and we talked a little about this last week, was the plan of potential peace in the Middle East, something that you worked on many years ago, now went up with the foundation of the Abraham Accords that did give us peace. a relative relief for many years until the Biden administration seems to have kind of unwound it and took apart what you all had built. But now we have Hamas and Israeli delegations. They're headed to Cairo right now to begin the peace talks. There's been somewhat soft agreements on the release of the hostages. And they're reportedly, they're saying that Hamas is committed. I'd say we put that in quotes, committed to ending the war. At this point, though, how optimistic are you that that can actually happen and will happen?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, call me a skeptic when it comes to Hamas wanting to end the war. Seems unlikely to me. They could end the war very easily. Just hand the hostages over and this thing ends in 20 minutes. And they've shown no evidence now for coming on the anniversary here just this week, right, of two years. And so maybe maybe they've had a change of heart given all the progress Israel's made and American support for that. But I think the devil will prove to be in the details. Perhaps there has been enough pressure that will convince them to allow these hostages to come home, both those that are alive and the remains of those that are now deceased. And you can, in fact, put an end to this thing. I think the Israelis would be happy to withdraw to a certain line that would provide for their security adequately and would ultimately lead to a resolution where there might be some form of governance inside of Gaza that would deliver better outcomes for the This would be a fantastic outcome. I pray that it's so. I think when it comes to Hamas, I will not believe that they're prepared to release those hostages until we get to see them in the embrace of their loved ones. I pray that it happens today or tomorrow or the next day.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you hate to be that guy. And I feel the same way, which is that they're putting so much, I feel like, not just pressure, I feel like they're putting so much credence in this, like the word of Hamas right now, that it makes me very concerned the way that even media is reporting it. They're like, Hamas has agreed. It's like, yeah, we've been through this how many times before where they've agreed to these things and it doesn't mean anything.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, that's right. And by the way, when you hear the media say Hamas has agreed, know this, they are trying to put pressure on Israel in the same way they've tried to put pressure on Israel to stop for two years now or almost two years now. They are really messaging that the Israelis are the problem, that the Israelis are somehow the aggressor and that they're the ones that are continuing this conflict. When you hear the media say, well, Hamas is on board, implicitly that is that the Israelis are not. and nothing could be further from the truth. I think the entire Israeli population, the entirety of the Israeli leadership would love nothing more than to see these hostages returned home, and more importantly, see that Hamas had laid down its weapons, had stopped being the resistance, had stopped trying to destroy the country, and simply wanted to be part of a more normal universe. I haven't seen any evidence of that to date, but one always lives in hope. As a diplomat, we did things that seemed unimaginable. Sure. perhaps President Trump has put enough pressure on the region to actually deliver this outcome, that this unimaginable outcome can happen too. I certainly hope so.
SPEAKER 07 :
We see these indirect talks that are going to be taking place over the next few days in Cairo. And we know that the White House envoy, Steve Witkoff, is going to be there. We know that Jared Kushner will be there. And that what they're supposed to be doing here is working on that first phase uh this may be a little technical but even just the the complexity of indirect talks in Cairo with a terrorist organization and Israel and the Americans there what is what is something like that even look like yeah
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No, that's a great question. I've been part of several of those where you weren't really talking to the person who was the decision maker. And in this case, it's actually a double bank shot because don't forget that the regime in Iran is going to have its say as well. So not only is there a mediator between the United States and Hamas, but Hamas has to go check with daddy, too. Right. They have to go check with the folks who have funded them for so long. So very complex. Lots of risk that there's translation errors, not just language translation, but conceptual translation issues. And so these deals get pounded out slowly. They're very complicated there. By the way, in this case, very technical as well, because the timing of these releases matters, the timing of the prisoners that the Israelis will undoubtedly be required to release. timing of this way, the withdrawal, all of those have to be negotiated in great detail so that you can then say, yep, we're going to go do this and then have a basis upon which to validate whether the parties lived up to their commitments. A very difficult set of conversations. But having worked with Mr. Kushner closely, with Jared closely for years on this problem set, he's very well positioned to be part of that.
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And aside from the negotiations, we've seen that President Trump had told, which I don't think I've ever seen this before, where there was Jake Tapper did an interview by text message where he just texted the president and then posted the responses. Very bizarre world we're living in. But that he asked the president of Hamas doesn't agree to this. What will what will they face? And he said, total obliteration. Now, we know that President Trump doesn't mess around. We saw what happened with Iran when they would not agree to the situation with their nuclear program that he was trying to push. There were B-2 bombers that were there very quickly, and no one even knew that that was happening. Do you think some of that, obviously, because of the relationship between Iran and Hamas is playing in the background on this? We know that the diplomatic side with a lot of the Gulf states that have been able to start putting pressure. But do you think there's also that the complete obliteration type language, knowing what the president has already done? Does that factor into some of this pressure as well?
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Ten thousand percent. That is very much on the minds of every one of those Hamas leaders and their families, knowing they're going to be wiped out. And it is not just a it's not bluster. It's not it's not just someone fantasy. That is a real credible threat. The Israelis can carry it out. If President Trump says, well, we tried, couldn't do anything more. Over to you, Prime Minister, Mr. Prime Minister Netanyahu. You can be sure the Prime Minister Netanyahu will continue to do that and deliver against that that mission set that president trump laid out no doubt that's in their minds no doubt as they're sitting in cairo today trying to figure this out they are thinking if i say no or i say yes but my fate is almost certain and they're trying to figure out how to get as much as they can before they ultimately have to say yes and then see what happens in the weeks and the days and weeks that follow
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And on top of that, many of these leaders of Hamas are third string, fourth string. I mean, the bench wasn't very deep and many of them never thought people like Yahya Senwar wouldn't be leading Hamas. So I feel like that also has to play into it a little bit as well as like, I thought the leadership was untouchable. I never thought I would be here.
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Yeah. And remember this, too. That's a really good point. Remember, they never thought they would be there. Moreover, they are all terrorists. Make no mistake about it. But some of these are hardened warriors, the ones in Gaza, and some of them been sitting eating at the nicest hotels in Doha and don't really know what it's like to be dirty, grimy and sitting under a pile of rubble trying to figure out how you're going to take your next breath. And so. They're all trying to save their own skin as well. There is no doubt that we would not be where we are today had President Trump not put all of the pressure on Hamas and Hamas's leadership that we're seeing that they are now experiencing as they sit across the table from these mediators in Cairo today.
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We'll see, Secretary Pompeo. Will and I have been talking about this this half hour, which is now we'll see if this deal goes through. Does the temperature come down in terms of the anti-Semitic, anti-Israel rhetoric around the country? around the world and specifically in the United States, because we're already seeing some people float out there. Well, even if this deal gets done, that doesn't forgive the last two years of what they say, you know, quote unquote genocide. And then, of course, you have sort of this weird combination where people have certainly conflated the Israeli government, the Jewish people, The Jewish people in America all together as one, what they would consider evil. And it's been very alarming as someone with Jewish background to see this all happening. We've been talking about how Robbie Williams, the star, big star in Europe, he had to cancel a show. the country of turkey said we cannot protect this show all because protesters were calling him a zionist because his turkish-born wife is jewish and he has a hebrew tattoo which caused a storm of protest they said we can't secure this stadium we and it's on it's supposed to be on october 7th so i mean that's the kind of real that's happening not even inside of the middle east
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Yeah. Look, if this deal comes to fruition, it will definitely take the temperature down. But I think we would all be foolish to think that this would be the end of these challenges of anti-Semitism. They have been with us for an awfully long time. And there will be many who will never forget what they think was this incredible what they describe as genocide. I mean, it's silly, but that's how they describe it. They won't forget this happened. So there will be a lasting tail on this, but it can only reduce risk, right? If a peace deal comes through, it can only be the case that there'll be less risk, less anti-Semitism, fewer violent protests here in the United States and around the world. And then there's an opportunity to begin to build in the months and years ahead.
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Well, that's good to hear. I'm really glad to hear that from you. I think that gives us a little bit of hope. Thank you so much for joining us, Secretary Pompeo. In the next segment, I want to hear from you. Now, if you're the listener, if you're watching us, we got phone lines open. 1-800-684-3110. Now's the time to get on the air. 1-800-684-3110. If you're watching online, I'd still love for you to call in. I'd love for you to share your opinions with not just those who are in our YouTube chat, our Rumble chat, those who are watching around the world. Because, look, we have been talking about this, and it's important. Now's the time to stand up, and I want you to hear your voice. So give me a call. If you can't right now, you can also support the work of the ACLJ. If you're watching this later on and you're like, hey, I can't call in, you're not live right now. Well, you can support the work of the ACLJ. Keep this show going. Keep our work going. That is at ACLJ.org. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open. If you want to be on the air, it's a great time to do it. I know that this is sort of a complicated discussion. A lot of people don't want to call in and be a part of that. We'd love for you to. And I'll see 1-800-684-3110. If there's other topics also you feel like we need to hit, you can do that as well at 1-800-684-3110. Of course, we'll... This conversation all is clouded by the global anti-Semitic tropes that have been going on, whether that is in the conservative world, whether that is in the liberal world, whether that now just feels like it's everywhere, the streets of major cities, obviously on social media and through some major influencers that have certainly caused this. So much so that we've seen some of the top names. Look, we don't know why specifically. We saw a name like Russell Brand yesterday announcing, hey, I'm not, I'm taking time off and I don't know if I'm coming back. I don't know if I'm contributing to the conversation anymore. You know, that's a pretty big name for what you consider, I guess, the Christian conservative movement right now is someone like him who isn't even sure where he belongs in this debate, in this conversation. And it could be that he's on the other side of this. You know, a lot of his friends are on the other side of this. I'm not saying that he is. I'm just saying this is where it's driving people. And I think in the fallout, obviously, the wake of the Charlie Clark assassination, I think a lot of us have had that discussion. And maybe finally people are coming to this agreement going, you know what? unless I can figure out how I can contribute better to this society and better to this world. I don't even know if my voice should be heard until then. And we've had that discussion even here, which is what that looks like when you are dealing with a threat that is different than we've ever experienced before. When it comes to antisemitism, we've all experienced it. It's been happening our entire lives. It's been happening for generations and generations, but it hasn't been this hot in America yet. It hasn't been this hot around the Western world in our lifetime.
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And what's fascinating to me, and when we talked about even, will the masks come off if something like this does go through? Where, oh no, you aren't just siding with what you have been told is a genocide and saying, I want to stop that, obviously. No, you really just were not a fan of Jewish people and Israelis. And some of those big conservative influencers you're talking about, ones that... have been so critical over the past months of the Israelis, of Bibi Netanyahu, of oddly getting very old trope nasty anti-semitism american jews yeah that they control everything like all of the the nasty lies that have been told for thousands of years just the idea that larry ellison purchased tiktok was like enough for some of them to go on crazy rants about how it's just going to be jewish controlled now just like all the other you know media well and my question is where are their statements about this proposed peace plan It's been out for more than a week. We know where it's come up to. And some of them, I've checked, and I could have missed it, have seen not a peep about this. Now, if they really did all of a sudden care and think that Israel is committing genocide on the Palestinian people, which they've said over and over and over again, this should be the top thing that they are posting about, talking about on their shows online. No, you're not seeing that.
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Because that's not what's going to bring clicks. That's what's going to bring eyeballs. I mean, eyeballs is for the war to continue, for it to be a constant threat. Because here's what we know, and it's what even Charlie Kirk put in that letter to Netanyahu, and I've been saying it for years, which is that Israel is really bad at PR. They're a great country, great people. Have you ever been there? It's a wonderful experience, but they have no idea how to talk to America in terms of public relations. You'd think if they controlled the media that they would. But of course, they do not. And I think there is stuff that gets lost in translation. There's a way military is handled there very differently than there is in America. Everyone is part of the IDF. I love that when they were going after a lot of Israeli actors, like former IDF soldier. It's like everyone is a former IDF soldier. That's how it works there, unless you have a strong religious exemption or something like that. Almost everyone, most secular or even mainstream religious people... are members of the military for two years there. Yeah. But of course they treat them like they're, you know, it's almost like the Trump appointed secretary of state. Right.
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Well, it's also, if you were to say that, like about an American veteran, like why is they so demonized people that serve their country in Israel? Then if you were to say former army, it doesn't have the, this perceived negative connotation that they're using it for. Yeah. And they've only done that because they have crafted such an anti-Israel, anti-Jewish narrative everywhere that, oh, they were in the IDF.
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They must be super evil. Yeah, war criminals. Let's go to Amy, who's calling in North Carolina on line one. Amy, welcome. Hi. Hello.
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Go ahead.
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So, I was just questioning, you know, how do we know that the hostages that are still over there are alive?
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Sure, Amy. I mean, obviously, there's some we know that aren't. But intelligence and what they've been telling us is that some are. And... Many of us have thought that throughout the years, the last two years, and inevitably, those have been released that are alive. They are sadly bargaining chips in this, and though they've been kept in horrible conditions in the photos and videos that we've seen, we do believe that there are upwards of 20-ish that are still alive. Now, Does that mean that's 100% accurate? Of course not. But our hope is that's true. And you know what? You keep fighting for that hope.
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That's right. And so the number that they've said is 48 remaining hostages. And about 28 of those are the remains of hostages. They keep those as bargaining chips too, which is so despicable. We saw where they did bait and switch with remains of a hostage. in one of the previous rounds of ceasefire and where they sent the wrong body home, but some families were, you know, filled with comfort that they could finally lay their child to rest or their, their family member to rest. And there was that bait and switch that Hamas did.
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That's why it's hard to trust that when they say, you know, Hamas has agreed to this, you're like, okay, well we know what this has looked like before and we saw bodies being paraded. And remember we even saw the, when they did release them, the sort of dog and pony show of having them come out with their military fatigues of which they did not have because these were citizens that they put in fake military fatigues and had them released like they were POWs. Um, It's really absurd. But our hope is though for the caller that there are a few still alive and intelligence would say that there is.
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We had a comment on YouTube from Tony that said, so Trump gave them until Sunday and now we're going two days past. Is this just Hamas buying time? Maybe a little bit, but it's not Hamas saying, give us more time to decide. They are going to, basically Hamas said we're on board for the most part. Now they are negotiating the logistics of that swap. If they get to it, the logistics of returning the hostages and starting the ceasefire, It's not something you just flip a light switch and go, okay, I'm going to walk up, here you go. They want to guarantee their protection, as gross as it is, that when they take the hostages to be released, that they won't be ambushed or attacked or something of that nature. So, yes, there is some delay in it, but that deadline, they effectively said, we're mostly in favor of this process, let's keep moving forward.
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All right, that's going to do it for today's show. I appreciate you guys tuning in. I know these subjects are sometimes a little bit harder to listen to for an hour because they're very intense. They're obviously life or death for a lot of people. And we want to continue to pray for our friends in Israel, pray for the people of Gaza, the innocent people. Pray for our members of our team that are in action right now, the way that's at ICLJ Jerusalem. Our office is there in Israel. Or, of course, our team around the country, including CeCe Heil, who brought up that Bible Club case. All of these things are equally as important. Like I said, our show is equally as important to the legal side. The legal side is just as important. We couldn't exist without each other, and none of it exists without you. We can't have the best of the best. the best in the broadcasting team, the best in the media team, the best in the legal team. None of it exists without you. So consider becoming an ACLJ champion right now. That's at ACLJ.org. Talk to you tomorrow.
Join Mike Gallagher as he navigates the tumultuous waters of American politics, with a keen focus on the controversial aspects currently reshaping the Democrat Party. In an eye-opening episode, Mike discusses the troubling acceptance of political violence within party ranks, particularly highlighting the disturbing comments by Virginia Attorney General candidate Jay Jones. As we dive deep into this unsettling phenomenon, Mike raises crucial questions about the party's evolving stance and what it means for American politics.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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I think it's safe to say that today's Democrat Party has now enthusiastically embraced political violence, killing their opponents, right? That's fair, isn't it? Isn't it okay to acknowledge that? that today's Democrats who won't renounce the Virginia Democrat Attorney General candidate, Jay Jones, who once opined and waxed nostalgic about putting two bullets into the head of a Republican leader and watching children die in the arms of their MAGA parents. Since no Democrat is denouncing that, really, and all the Democrats in Virginia are... Still with him. Is it fair to say now that today's Democrat Party is the party of political violence? And I think the bigger question is, were Democrats always this way? Or have they evolved? I'm honest. Look, I took a couple of days off, thanks to Joey Hudson for guest hosting, and I heartily recommend what I did. I normally take time off and go somewhere and do something, try to spend time with my kids or my granddaughter, friends. But when you take time off and you go travel or do something, you're still doing something. I needed just kind of to clear my head for a few days. There's been a lot going on. I'm blessed with vacation days. Why not use them? I never take my vacation days. You know, the company has always been very gracious and generous with days off for me, and I never use them. That's probably why they give me so many, because they know it's a smart bargain on their part. So I thought, you know what? End of September, Joey's ready to go. I'll take a few days. I'll clear my head. I'll sleep in. I'll watch football. I'll kick my feet up, and I'll just take a break. Okay? So I did. I took a break for a few days. Always stay plugged in because you have to in this job. And I'm sitting here today in a state of absolute shock at what today's Democrats have become. What today's Democrats have become is almost inconceivable to a normal person, which has got to be good news for us electorally. But what I worry about, it might be fine for us to have this political victory that today's Democrats have turned into a bunch of violent, loving lunatics that no one's going to want to vote for. But on the other hand, how bad is it for the country? How terrible is it for America? Let's be honest here. These are our neighbors. These are people we work with. These are people we've got to share space with in this vast, complicated country. The Virginia Democrat candidate for attorney general, a fellow by the name of Jay Jones, who wants to be Virginia's top cop, he wants to be the attorney general. He once remarked, and I'm just reading here, he once remarked on shooting the Virginia House speaker in texts with another lawmaker. Texts obtained by reporters show an August 22 conversation between Jones and another lawmaker after the death of a 90-year-old Democrat named Joe Johnson. Del Joe Johnson. At the time, several House Republicans, including leadership, had offered eulogizing words for the guy, right? Jay Johnson said, if those guys die before me, I will go to their funerals to pee on their graves. He used a different P word, but I want to try to clean it up a little bit. Send them out awash in something. And then he said, three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert, the Virginia Republican he's referring to, gets two bullets in the head. Now, obviously that's discreet. He also went on to wish violence on the children of one of his colleagues. He wants the children of one of his Republican colleagues to be killed, too. Now, obviously, in a normal world, that's disqualifying. If the guy had a shred of decency, he'd throw in the towel and realize, I'm not fit to be dog catcher in Norfolk, Virginia, much less attorney general for the state. But he doesn't. He's doubling down. Oh, it was a private conversation. Oh, I'm sorry. I got carried away. Oh, you got carried away? Yeah, you got carried away, all right. But here's the bigger story. Not a single Virginia Democrat is calling for him to step down. In fact, they're doubling down. Every Virginia Democrat is enthusiastically endorsing him, even more so. Which makes me wonder if what Matt Walsh wrote on social media is true. And this is the question I have for you. This is the question that I want you to ponder. This is the issue of the day. Matt Walsh wrote, Jay Jones, the guy who wished for political violence, bullets in the head of one of his Republican colleagues, Jay Jones is not going to drop out of the race, Matt writes. Why would he? He knows that the majority of Democrat voters agree with what he said and are happy he said it. Fantasizing about murdering conservatives and their children is not a scandal on the left. That's how they all feel. Wow. Is he right? I've got to ask you, 800-655-MIKE. You know how I love loaded lines. Let's kick off our Monday, the first Monday in October, with a full bank of phone lines. Look, that's my commitment to you. Not a lot of talking heads on this show. Not a lot of authors. Not a lot of politicians. I want Americans. I want voices from all over this country, north, south, east, west. The question I have for you, is Matt Walsh right that the reason Democrats aren't calling on Jay Jones to step down And to drop out of the race is because they agree with him. And they're glad he said it. Why would they call on him to drop out? Because they all fantasize about killing us. They believe that the way to beat us is to do to us what was done to Charlie Kirk. That's their belief. Put a bullet in our heads and maybe we'll all go away. Now, I can't even believe I'm positioning it this way, but I don't know any other way. Isn't Matt Walsh right? I tend to think he is. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. 14 past the hour. We're in the Relief Factor Studios in New York City. And boy, do I have some thoughts about New York. We're here for a big Stop Mom Donnie streaming event tomorrow night. I think it's kicking off at 7 p.m. Eastern. 4 p.m. Pacific. Go to MikeOnline.com to get your free tickets and be part of this big video stream. Going to have a bunch of my colleagues with us, and we're going to do a great job, I think, in trying to lay out the case why anybody but Mamdani should win the mayoral race next month. But in the meantime, let's talk about the state of the Democrat Party. In October of 2025, is Matt Walsh correct that the reason the Democrats aren't calling for Jay Jones to step down? No. Because they liked what he said. Put bullets in the heads of your political opponents. 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. 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They would rather deny pay to our military service men and women. They would rather deny health care to our veterans than deny health care to illegals. They want to give money to illegals so bad they will shut down the entire government to do it. Sean, it's crazy. It's absolutely nuts.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike Gallagher.
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When you hear what Bill Maher said about Kamala Harris, who's continuing to tell the lie that her defeat to Donald Trump was the closest presidential race in American history. You talk about gaslighting. How does anyone get away with regurgitating such an easily disproven lie? How could she think her loss to Trump was closer than the famous George Bush, Al Gore, dimpled chads hanging on by the sliver into the middle of the night election. I'm telling you, she's still doing it. And I wonder... Why anybody isn't calling her aside saying, Madam Vice President, because you still call her Vice President even though she's no longer Vice President. You get to keep that title. Madam Vice President, that isn't true. Why do you keep saying that? I'll play that for you in just a moment. Tomorrow is a big anniversary. It is a day of memorial. It is a day of heartfelt... Profound prayer. Two years ago tomorrow, Hamas terrorists launched horrific sneak attacks on innocent men, women, and children of Israel. Over 1,300 people were raped, tortured, butchered, murdered. Hamas took dozens of hostages, many of whom are still in captivity. Now, we are prayerful that President Trump is leading the way to a peace plan. But we've got a long way to go. As you know, this show has partnered for years with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Having lunch with Yael Eckstein, the IFCJ president in Jerusalem a couple of years ago, was one of the highlights of my life. She is an amazing woman. You know, she... took over the IFCJ from her late father, a bold, courageous man who brought Jews and Christians together to help those in need in Israel. And we asked Yael if there are people around the world who have already forgotten the nightmare of October 7th,
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Thank you so much for this question, Mike, because indeed so many people have forgotten what happened on October 7th. But here in Israel, no one has forgotten. I'm not going to go into the details because it's too upsetting for so many people to hear. But on October 7th, Israel saw that we are in a war for survival. And that's the day that we realized that we need to protect our borders. We need to stand guard. We need to get rid of these terrorists that want to destroy us, because if not, we won't be here tomorrow.
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This is where you can come in. You can show the people of Israel that you are with them. and you can support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. There's a banner posted at mikeonline.com right at the top of the page where you can make a generous gift of $25 or any amount you can afford to support the IFCJ. $25 will rush a food box to a Jewish person in need in Israel. If you can give $50... You'll be able to double the efforts, obviously. And thanks to a generous fellowship supporter, for a limited time, every gift will double automatically. Please, please provide hope by making your donation to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Just go to MikeOnline.com and click on that banner at the top of the page, MikeOnline.com, or you could phone in your donation directly. Call 800-613-5511. 800-613-5511. Or again, just click on the IFCJ banner at mikeonline.com. And thank you. Thank you for supporting Israel, for standing with Israel. I wonder why the mainstream media doesn't have any... doesn't have a shred of integrity in calling out the lie that Kamala Harris continues to regurgitate about the 2024 election. Check this out. Here she was again. And here's the other thing that is quite unprecedented.
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And it was the tightest, closest presidential election in the 23rd century.
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screeching like a lunatic that he doesn't have a mandate because the election was the closest, tightest race in the 21st century. How do you keep saying that? Well, thankfully, there are some common sense broadcasters who've noticed this unbelievable lie that Cackles continues to spout. His name is Bill Maher from over there on HBO.
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Kamala Harris's new memoir of the 24 election is called 107 Days, but it should have been called Everyone Sucks But Me. 107 days is a victim's title because, get it, she only had 107 days to win. Yeah, and a billion and a half dollars. And a built-in army of about 75 million people who'd vote for any human-adjacent life form that wasn't Trump. But in 107 days, nothing is ever Kamala's fault. Biden lets her down by not stepping down sooner. Pouty face emoji. Gavin Newsom, he was asked for his endorsement, but texted, hiking will call back. But then never did. And then he didn't even ask her to prom. America, America itself lets Kamala down by not being ready for the running mate she really wanted, Pete Buttigieg. So she's stuck with the Home Depot paint salesman. And the rest is herstory. Poor Kamala. Poor Kamala. We made her the star of a rom-com and didn't even give her a gay best friend. Kamala writes that on election night, when it was clear she lost, an aide peeled the words Madam President off the cupcakes before handing them out.
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Oh! Oh!
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Oh, geez, that's like a scene from Bridget Jones runs for president.
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To watch the universe turn on Democrats. I mean, even Kirsten Welker yesterday on NBC's Meet the Press. Check out what Kirsten Welker. Now, you know, she's a lefty. She's obviously part of the media establishment. She even calls out the Democrats over their government shutdown hypocrisy.
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But let me ask you, because you say this is a Republican shutdown, but it's Democratic senators who are withholding their votes on what is called a clean resolution. That means no strings attached, which is something, quite frankly, leader, that you and other Democrats have advocated for in the past. Take a look.
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You do not use the threat of shutting down government to try to advance your policy agenda. First thing that the House has to do is pass a clean six-week CR.
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A continuing resolution that is at the fiscal year 2023 levels is the only way forward.
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And that's what the Democrats now are shutting down, even Kirsten Welker. I always say, is it Kristen or Kirsten? I always get those words, that name mixed up. I think it's, maybe it's Kristen. I don't know. Somebody put it on the screen. I think it's, I think it's C-I, is it K-I-R or K-R-I? Kristen. Kristen Welker. She's calling out Hakeem Jeffries. He's sitting there looking constipated on TV because he's going, uh-oh, she's going to play the clip where I've always advocated for a clean, continuing resolution. And now I'm not doing it. Now I've got to stop Trump because I've got to stop Trump. I've got to stop Trump because I'm stopping Trump. And now people are going to feel the pain of a government shutdown. How much pain is debatable. But I love it when they say the quiet part out loud. Here's the lefty Jonathan Capehart. He's the guy that got fired from the Washington Post. Remember when our colleague Hugh Hewitt stormed off of an interview with Jonathan Capehart because Capehart was attacking Hugh's credibility? And for many years, Hugh was a writer at the Washington Post. We always gave him a hard time for that. It's like, Hugh, what are you thinking, man? What are you doing writing for the Washington Post? There you are hanging out with Chuck Todd and the Washington Post. But Hugh has come around. And that was one of his finest hours when he pulled the earpiece out of his ear after this guy, Jonathan Capehart, insulted Hugh's integrity in a big way. And Hugh had just finally had enough. Well, here was K-Part, who also apparently has a gig on PBS. I mean, it's kind of amazing. Some of these folks that are the worst of the worst, they've got more gigs than an actor working the national tour circuit. I mean, K-Part is PBS and NBC and Washington Post and MSNBC. These folks have paychecks coming from all different directions. And, of course, the now defunded PBS, although that is still up in the air, I guess. But I give you the best and the brightest of PBS. Jonathan Capehart saying the quiet part out loud that, of course, the Democrats are to blame for the government shutdown. Of course, they're the ones who did it. But don't worry. They're doing it because, well, Trump did.
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Senator Schumer, who was on this program back in March, he said the country avoided disaster when he voted to keep the government open. Republicans are calling that out and saying it's hypocritical. In your view, why isn't it?
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Well, one, we're talking about a shutdown caused by Republicans not wanting to do something on health care. You can argue whether this is the time to do it. Democrats have decided this is the time to do it, especially since letters are going out next month consumers on the American Affordable Care Act exchanges that their premiums are going to go up. And then they're going to go up starting in the new year. And so Democrats are saying, well, we've got to do something to help the American people. And the Republicans basically said no. And so I think that we can argue whether this is a good time to do this and whether Democrats should do it. I argue Democrats absolutely should do it because they're doing it for all the right reasons.
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There you go. There you go. There's the confession. There's the admission. Look, the Schumer shutdown has backfired on Democrats bigly. America knows who the exact culprits are responsible for the government shutdown, and it sure is in the Republicans. So you own that, Jonathan Capehart. Good for you. I'm glad you went from crying with the January 6th police officer one day to admitting that it's completely the Democrats' fault that there's a government shutdown. And right now a whole bunch of people are working without a paycheck. You know it's going to happen, right? You know it's going to occur. Trump is going to fire thousands and thousands of government workers and replace them with MAGA. Replace them with common sense conservatives. Sort of liberal proof the federal government for years to come. Not too bad, huh? Every single day, it's a joy to remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by MyPillow. As you know, our friend Mike Lindell, big legal victory last week. He's been in a ton of hot water, as you know, because he believes in election integrity. Of course, due to his friendship with President Trump. Well, last week, there was a $5 million... judgment against Mike that was overturned by the courts. Good news for MyPillow. So you keep praying for MyPillow, and you keep supporting this great American company. The premium MyPillow, limited time, great price, $18.98. If you go to MyPillow.com, this pillow is a godsend. Look, I bring the MyPillow products with me when I'm on the road. Here at the hotel in Washington State, I've got the MySlippers with me, those unbelievable slippers, because I pat around in the hotel room. I don't know what's on that rug. I bring the MyPillow with me. I roll it up into the suitcase. I've even got my MyPillow loungewear. Tons of great products. If you haven't been to the site in a while, go check it out. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. You're going to save big. The slippers, the doggy beds, and the Giza dream sheets. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Like we love to sing.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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Wouldn't it be wild? Wouldn't it be just off the charts insane if a communist got elected mayor of New York City and an attorney general in Virginia said, A candidate for attorney general got elected after wishing for bullets to be put in the heads of his political opponents and to have Republican children die in the arms of their parents. Wouldn't it be wild if this Jay Jones, this year's Democrat nominee for Virginia attorney general, won? I guess the takeover of the Democrat Party by truly deranged, violent, and radical extremists would be complete. You know, when you go away for a couple of days, and many thanks to Joey Hudson for filling in for me for a few days last week. I just did nothing. Just kind of came to New York a little bit early. Relaxed. Saw some shows, went to some of my favorite restaurants, got to hang out with family and my son and daughter-in-law and just got to sort of break away for a few days. It's always great to go away, but it's better to come back. And I come back with this clear-headed belief that the radicalization of the Democrat Party is right in front of our faces. On August 8, 2022, a Republican state legislator apparently accidentally got a string of text messages from a guy named Jay Jones, who is currently the Democrat nominee for Virginia Attorney General. Those comments included wishing bullets... into the head of one of his Republican colleagues, the then Speaker of the House, Todd Gilbert. He said if it came down to the choice of murdering Republican Todd Gilbert or two dictators like Pol Pot, he'd shoot Gilbert every time. The colleague said, Jay, please stop. Jay Jones wrote, LOL, OK, OK. The Republican said, it really bothers me when you talk about hurting people or wishing death on them, no matter who they are. He also talked about other Republicans breeding little fascists. And at one point, he suggested that he could watch the Republican's wife die. watch her own child die in her arms. Now, it's one thing, we can all agree that putting a bullet into the head of your political adversary is unhinged, unacceptable, disqualifying, right? If anybody in your life walks around threatening political opponents with mortal violence. That person needs to either be committed, needs to be arrested, needs to be investigated. Obviously, you've got a real big problem on your hands. But here's the bigger problem. Give me one Democrat, starting in Virginia, who has condemned Jay Jones. Just one. None of them are condemning him. None of them are calling him to drop out of the race. In fact, the best and brightest of the Democrat Party are kind of doubling down in their support for this troubled, unhinged, violent-loving Attorney General candidate. Remember Neera Tanden? I mean, she goes way back to, I think, Obama or even Clinton. She's been a Democrat talking head forever. And she popped up on NBC News. Now listen to what a Democrat operative says about the Attorney General candidate in Virginia. The guy who wants to be Virginia's top cop. Check out how she reacts to Jay Jones' behavior.
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Can we stop with the pro-clutching about the mean tweets and some rare tweets? That this week it came to light that a Democrat candidate for Attorney General of the state of Virginia called for the assassination of a political opponent, called for the assassination of that political opponent's family, and there's not one national Democrat calling for him to step aside. Not one. It's disgraceful.
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Nero, let me let you respond to that, because that is going to be a big story, I think, in the coming days.
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I mean, I absolutely think people should criticize that 100 percent. It's I think it was a private conversation he had, but still awful and disgusting. Isn't calling for a public terrible.
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And it should be condemned.
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It should be condemned. But then we should condemn that. But then you should condemn when the president is called to the Democratic Party, the party of Satan.
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Why don't we just say both of those things? I think I've paid the price for central political violence on our side.
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Yeah, I agree with that. But let's just then, like, criticize other Republicans more than the president.
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I think I really have. For not staying safe. But the fact that not one Democrat has said that when he called for a political assassination in this moment of political violence is crazy.
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We just had one of the most prominent conservative influencers in the country assassinated in living color, right in front of everybody's eyes. He bled out in front of everybody. And these lunatics on the left think it's time for whataboutism. I'm with Greg Gutfeld. Those days are gone. If that's the best you got in defending Jay Jones by turning around and saying, well, what about when Trump says terrible things about the Democrats? I want to read an essay that Guy Benson over at Town Hall wrote about Trump. this extraordinary turn of events where the attorney general candidate in Virginia wished political assassination upon his Republican colleagues in Virginia. Guy wrote, I'd like to ask my non-conservative followers to pay attention here for just a moment. I don't need a response. I don't need a rebuttal or a whatabout. Just read on and consider what I'm saying. We are only a few weeks removed from a leading conservative figure being shot in the throat and killed by a leftist for and during his speech at a public speaking event. Stunning, jarring numbers of leftist Americans justified or celebrated this assassination. aligning with multiple public polls showing that a sizable minority of leftists in this country think political violence can be acceptable. He goes on to list the attacks, the physical violent attacks we're witnessing by leftists in America. And then Guy concludes by writing, and yet, we see many of our leftist friends tweeting and posting about how their opponents are the dangerous and authoritarian fascists. I ask you, Guy Benson writes, to try to contemplate, even for a quiet moment or two, how this might strike many of us. That's all for now. Thank you. You can read Guy's post. I'm sure you can find it on X. I'll tell you how it strikes me. That's today's Democrat Party. When a Democrat goes off the rails, like Jay Jones obviously did, it's incumbent upon his fellow Democrats to do the right thing. And the right thing would be, well, of course he's not qualified to be Virginia's top cop. He's fantasizing about having his political opponents assassinated. He's fantasizing about children being killed and dying in the arms of their loving parents. Of course this guy's a freak show. Of course he's not qualified to be Virginia's Attorney General. But now name one Democrat who has called on him to drop out of the race. Is there one? I'm not asking that question rhetorically. Is there a single Democrat in America who has called on Jay Jones to withdraw from the race? I believe the answer is no. And I believe that's confirmation that they must agree with him. They have to agree with him. I mean, his comments were so egregious that it's not even a heavy lift to say, look, he's got to step down. Obviously, I mean, this is not a guy qualified or capable of being the attorney general of Virginia. He's going to have to prosecute crimes. He's the top cop. The attorney general is a very important, powerful position. Not one Democrat has said the guy's got to go. He's got to step out of the race. Not one. I think Matt Walsh might be right. Matt Walsh posted something that was pretty provocative, as is often the case with Matt. And I'm going to read this to you, and I'm going to challenge you to answer Matt's post with a yay or nay, thumbs up or a thumbs down. Matt Walsh writes, and I have a hard time disagreeing with it, of course he's not going to drop out. He's got the cover of all the Democrats who think what he said is correct. Let me read what Matt Walsh said, and then I'm going to turn the phone lines open to you at 800-655-MIKE as we kick off a Monday in the Relief Factor studios. Matt writes, Jay Jones isn't going to drop out of the race. Why would he? He knows that the majority of Democrat voters agree with what he said and are happy that he said it. fantasizing about murdering conservatives and their children is not a scandal on the left. That's how they all feel. Wow. Is he right? 800-655-MIKE. How many Democrats did you hear celebrating the assassination of our friend and colleague, Charlie Kirk. How many Democrats do you hear fantasizing about the assassination of President Trump? How many Democrats have you witnessed expressing jubilation at the idea of killing Republicans? I don't want to believe that Matt Walsh is right, but perhaps he is. Maybe the reason there's a failure... of the righteous condemnation of Jay Jones in Virginia is because that's who they are. They're at a point now, they're so crazed that they think the only way to beat us is not at the ballot box, but to kill us. 800-655-MIKE. One open line. Call or text. And you know me, I love loaded phone lines. Fill up my lines. Let's flood the zone here with your reaction to this Jay Jones. And again, it's not even a Jay Jones scandal. It's a Democrat Party scandal because the Democrats are incapable of doing the right thing. Like the old saying goes, when people tell you who they are, believe them. They're the party of political violence and bloodshed and chaos and destruction and despair and darkness. And ironically, they call us the fascists. They call us the authoritarians. Wow! 800-655-6453. Imagine this guy as the top cop in Virginia and the abuse that would follow him. The abuse of a monster who wants to fantasize about conservatives' children dying in their parents' arms, putting two bullets in the head of somebody because of their Republican status. Let that sink in. Let that sink in.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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What do you think is going to happen if President Trump winds up getting the Nobel Peace Prize? The families of the captives who are still being held hostage in Gaza called on the Nobel Prize Committee today to award President Trump the Nobel Peace Prize over his work to try to secure a hostage deal. The Hostages and Missing Families Forum sent a letter to the committee touting President Trump as a worthy recipient for the Nobel Peace Prize. Just for the deal that's on the table right now, which seeks to free the remaining 48 hostages and end the war in Gaza. Oh, my gosh. They'll lose their money. They're going to give the Nobel Peace Prize to a fascist? How does that work? Did you see Jane Goodall, that kind, saintly, cherished woman that studied the chimpanzees? Was she gorilla in the mist? Was that her story? I don't know. But you know who she was. I mean, just a kind, grandmotherly type, always out there. I mean, I saw a video of her hugging a gorilla over the weekend. And it just really touched my heart. I really love animals. And I appreciate, you know, the work that she did on behalf of the chimps. You know, right? She died a week or so ago. She was in, I think, her 90s. Nice, full, wonderful life. She gave an interview. And I'm not entirely sure if it's AI or not. I'm praying that it is, but I don't think it is. She gave an interview that she stipulated could only be released after she died. It was supposedly in March. And in the interview... She said there were people she hated, and she wanted to put Elon Musk and Donald Trump on one of Musk's spaceships and jettison them out into space. Kind. I'll bet she had a Love Always Wins bumper sticker on her Prius. Yes. And she's out there hugging on the chimps and kissing the gorillas and everything. She wants Elon Musk and Trump and others. Oh, and Trump supporters. She wants us all to be jettisoned out into space. You think I'm making this up? I almost was going to give it to Christian to play, but I thought, do we want to hear that? Because people love her. What would she be saying if the man that she wants jettisoned out into outer space would get the Nobel Peace Prize? What these people must think who are so insane. My friend Mark Davis always says that Trump derangement syndrome takes nice people and makes them mean and takes smart people and makes them stupid. Yeah, nothing like unifying when you want the president to be jettisoned into outer space because you hate him so much. At least that's not as bad as wanting him to be assassinated. I don't think she said that. Chicago just sent me a text message. No, the gorillas in the mist lady was murdered. I don't know anything about it. I just remember that title for some reason. But Jane Goodall, she's always out there. Christian wants to play it so badly. I know he does. I can see the look on his face. He's now rushing to find the clip. Don't do it. Should we play it? We've got a lot of breaking news today. We've got Portland. We've got Chicago. We've got Virginia. We've got the government shutdown. We've got maybe a peace deal finally that President Trump is behind. The letter, incidentally, that the families of the hostages wrote says, at this very moment, President Trump's comprehensive plan to release all remaining hostages and finally end this terrible war is on the table. We strongly urge you to award President Trump the Nobel Peace Prize because he has vowed he will not rest and will not stop until every last hostage is back home. Look, the Democrats and the never-Trumpers, they're going to have a real problem on their hand if the fascist dictator Hitler tyrant gets the Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, it'll never happen. There's no way they would ever, although maybe they'll be forced to. Maybe they'll have to do it. Tracy's all nervous about anybody bagging on Jane Goodall. Tracy, oh, she's loved by many. Yeah, she wants the president to be jettisoned out into outer space because she hates him so much. Yeah, she seems real nice. Tracy's like, oh, you're going to get in trouble. Don't make the Jane Goodall lovers mad at you. Well, I think that's just my lot in life. I've got to accept that. Welcome in. Good to be back after a few days off. Thanks to Joey Hudson for guest hosting for a few days, doing the tremendous job that he always does. And I did nothing. I just went and came to New York a little early. Some would call me crazy because it is, after all, New York. And there's still, yesterday I saw a parade of, there were some NYPD officers on horses. I took a video clip of it and posted it on X and said, you know what, even as this city is being run into the ground and maybe on the verge of electing a communist named Zoran to be the mayor, there's still some moments of greatness. God bless the NYPD. So came early, saw a couple of shows, had some fun. Mamma Mia is back at the Winter Garden. Now it's the tour, but it's great. It's a fun, feel-good, it's ABBA music. And then yesterday, Ragtime over at the, I think it's the Lucille Lortel Theater. It's part of the Kennedy Center Complex Theater. Have you ever seen Ragtime? I know I'm the theater geek around here, and you're probably rolling your eyes at me, but this is one of the most stupendous productions of Ragtime, which is one of my favorite musicals of all time. If you're going to be in New York and you want to see a show, see Ragtime. Oh, my gosh. It's unbelievable. I mean, I'm like weeping at the end of this thing. I mean, it's powerful. But anyhow, just kind of enjoyed a few days of rest and relaxation. Did you find it, Christian? I know he wants to play it. Do you have it? I mean, do we dare? Tracy, I want to play it just to upset Tracy because Tracy is just terrified that we're going to play it. So we'll see if Christian puts it together here in just a moment. And speaking for a moment here of Israel, we are right now in our October campaign to lift up the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. I asked Yael Eckstein, my friend and, of course, the president of the IFCJ, if she felt that people around the world have already forgotten the horrific nightmare that Israel endured two years ago tomorrow.
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Thank you so much for this question, Mike, because indeed so many people have forgotten what happened on October 7th. But here in Israel, no one has forgotten. I'm not going to go into the details because it's too upsetting for so many people to hear. But on October 7th, Israel saw that we are in a war for survival. And that's the day that we realized that we need to protect our borders. We need to stand guard. We need to get rid of these terrorists that want to destroy us, because if not, we won't be here tomorrow.
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Hello, hello, hello. Happy Monday, everyone. Happy, happy, happy Monday. Thank you. Oh, you're going to see why I'm not happy in just a few minutes here. Thank you for tuning in to Shooting the Breeze today, brought to you by the team at Franktown Firearms. My name is Karen Murray, and I am the lead instructor at Franktown Firearms. We are the one-stop shop. That's it. One-stop shop for everything you need for your shooting needs, for your hunting, whether it's a new handgun or a new hunting rifle or a shotgun, ammunition, accessories. even safe storage options for your guns, home training tools we have. We've got you covered for all of it. You can reach us by phone at 720-770-7777, or you can visit our new website. You have to check out the new website. It is RecoilFun.com. You've got to check it out. Very user-friendly website. It actually allows you to sign up and pay for classes without having to go to that third-party site to do it. I won't mention their name, but you guys might remember from previous shows what that site is. No longer necessary. All the information about concealed carry classes, refresher classes, private training, rifle training... All of it. It's all right there. We are conveniently located just east of the intersection of Highway 83 and Highway 86 in Franktown. We're open seven days a week, Monday through Saturday from 10 to 6 and Sunday from noon to 6. So just stop by and say hello. That's all you got to do. Just stop in. If you've never been there, you got to come and check it out. If you haven't been there for, I don't know, six days, eight months or something, it's a new store. It's a new store. It's a whole different ballgame, new range. It's not new, but the range is there. I talked to a guy on Saturday. I was there teaching a refresher class, and there was a guy saying that he didn't even know this place existed. So come and check it out. If you're driving south into Franktown and you're at that intersection of Highway 83 and 86, You're going to go east, and we're just on the south side of the road. So it's right there, kind of down in a little gully, so you can't see it immediately. Got to look for the sign and just go check it out. You have to see Franktown Firearms, I'm telling you. And if you'd like to talk about anything I'm going to discuss today, and I'm I'm having a day today, you guys. I'm having a day. So you can give us a call at 303-477-5600, and we can chat about whatever you want. So I'm going to start out today with a little bit of bean steaming. I got the blue – I don't even know what you call it. It's the thing that our government puts out to let us know kind of what's going to be on the ballot coming up for, you know, an election. And I want to talk about that because I've had it. I've had it. So we're going to bean steam about our politics and our government in Colorado and how corrupt they are. And I am really getting tired of all the taxes and fees that we're being charged, basically just breathe and, you know, have the luxury and privilege of living in this state. And While they're breathing in all of our hard-earned money, we're all breathing in the crap that they're spraying on us, but that's a different story, and I'm having a big problem with that. Anyway, we're going to digress into just these new proposed tax increases. So we're going to be voting on this November 4th, and first we have Proposition L.L., And that is to retain and spend, retain and spend, tax and spend, right? All the revenue exceeding the estimate for Proposition FF that voters somehow approved in 2022. So Prop FF. increases taxes by over $100 million, reducing income tax deductions amounts for those earning $300,000 or more. And that's household, by the way. That's not individuals. So your deductions go from $30,000 $30,000 for single filers and $60,000 for joint filers to $12,000 for single filers and $16,000 for joint filers. Okay, so they want to take a pretty substantial chunk out of your money. It allocates revenue from the deduction change to create and fund the Healthy School Meals for All program to reimburse participating schools, participating schools to provide free meals to students and provide schools with local food purchasing grants and school food-related funding. So evidently, that $100 million wasn't enough. So now they've introduced Prop LL, which will read. Now, keep in mind how this is worded, okay? It reads, without raising taxes, which is cagey, and I'll talk about that in a second. So may the state keep and spend all revenue generated by the 2022 voter-approved state tax deduction limits on individuals with incomes greater of $300,000 or more and maintain these deduction limits in order to continue funding the Healthy School Meals for All program, which pays for public schools to offer free breakfast and lunch to all students in kindergarten through 12th grade. I love how they always say without raising taxes, as if keeping more of our money that we've already paid, you know, Which could normally, we'd normally get back in a refund, but that doesn't count. So they just want to keep it. This is all kind of harkens back to Tabor, right? So I'll continue with Prop MM, which is literally a tax increase, and they say so. It reads, shall state taxes be increased by $95 million annually to change the Colorado revised statutes to support access to healthy food for Colorado kids and families, including the Healthy School Meals for All program, and in connection therewith, increasing state taxable income only for individuals individuals who have a federal taxable income of $300,000 or more by limiting itemized or standard state income tax deductions to $1,000 for single tax return filers and $2,000 for joint tax return filers for the purpose of fully funding the Healthy School Meals for All program to continue paying for public schools to offer free breakfast. and lunch to all public school students while also increasing wages for employees who prepare and serve school meals, helping schools use basic nutritious ingredients instead of processed products and ensuring that Colorado grown and raised products are part of school meals. It goes on, supporting the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, which is SNAP. We know what that is. That helps low-income Colorado families afford groceries and allowing the state to retain and spend, as a voter-approved revenue change, all additional tax revenue. Yeah, so I'm over it. I'm so over the tax increases. And I'll ask the same question that I've asked probably a dozen times already. What are they doing with all the money? We've had tax increases for a long, long time ago for Mile High Stadium. You remember that? Those taxes, as far as I know, those taxes never went away. And now they're building a new stadium. So I don't know what's going to happen there. We've had tolls for E470 that were promised that they would go away when the highway was paid for. That's never going away, right? We voted for pot shops to open up all over the place, and Colorado collected over $255 million in tax revenue from that industry that was supposed to go to schools and opening new schools and, you know, whatever. We get banged for 29 cents on every single online order we place. That retail delivery fee was put on us in 2022. And the data from early 2025 says that Colorado has generated over $218 million in just that. That money was supposed to go toward funding roads and bridges. So how many of you guys drive on roads that are full of potholes? I mean, I understand. Okay, roads are being repaired. We get it. We see it all the time. We drive down, you know, X Street and whatever, and, yeah, it's all torn up and they're doing repairs. We see it all over the place. Construction projects everywhere. But there are still roads that are a complete nightmare, ones that should have been fixed long before others did. Of course, Colfax is under construction. It's like this constant thing that's been happening. It feels like forever, right? But here's the deal, and here's why all of this grinds my gears. Obviously, Colorado is broke. They need more of our money. They need to suck more money out of our paychecks just to live here. And if we're so broke, why do we have all these grand plans? for a new football stadium and for a gondola over the 16th Street Mall and for all these, you know, entertainment venues and all this different thing. Why? What is going on with our government? So I asked AI, what big plans does Colorado have for improving the state? And here's what AI threw back at me. It's pretty interesting. It says, Colorado plans to improve the state by focusing on reducing health care costs and property taxes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Expanding affordable housing. Okay, that sounds more accurate for what Colorado would be doing. And universal preschool. Enhancing public safety and promoting clean energy through initiatives like re-imagine state government and roadmap to a future Colorado 2026. Other key plans include updating the Colorado resiliency framework to address climate change and natural hazards and developing a modern user-friendly digital government to improve service delivery. Okay, it goes on. Key state improvement plans. Reimagine State Government. This initiative aims to modernize state operations with specific goals to, number one, lower health care expenses, two, increase affordable housing options and provide property tax relief, three, offer universal access to preschool. And I'm going to ask, don't we already have that? Isn't that already a thing? Didn't, was it Obama? that did that whole thing, universal preschool, you know, kind of like a child pre-work, child care, whatever. I thought we already had that. But anyway, you can correct me if I'm wrong on that. Number four, promote clean energy and its benefits. And number five, improve public safety. So that's the reimagined state government part. And then roadmap to future Colorado 2026. This roadmap outlines efforts to create a more affordable livable and sustainable Colorado by focusing on housing and affordability creating more housing options for all budgets. So yeah, we'll get to more of that in a second transit expanding access to public transportation, including trains buses and bikes. Air quality, implementing strategic plans to improve air quality and reduce traffic congestion. Colorado resiliency framework. This framework is being updated to help the state adapt to future challenges by focusing on climate change adaption, understanding natural and other hazards, addressing social inequalities and community needs, growing a strong economy. And then modernizing digital government. The state is working to transform its digital experience for residents by improving the user-centered design of government services, making them faster and more accessible. But we still can't have voter ID because nobody can get to the polls, and it's just a nightmare for people to vote and that kind of thing. But I digress. And then we have climate change and energy initiatives. It says Colorado is actively working to cut climate pollution from buildings, expand its electric vehicle charging network, and achieve its climate goals. And then we have the state service plan. The 2022 to 2025 plan prioritizes leading with equity and inclusion, engaging with community partners, developing the future workforce, and using volunteerism to serve Colorado's communities. So that's what AI spit out at me when asking the question about what big plans Colorado has for, you know, improving the state or whatever. Understanding in my mind that Colorado is broke, and we know we're broke. So Colorado is still obviously firmly entrenched in this whole DEI climate hoax, and now we're using the children who can't eat as a sledgehammer to extract more money from Colorado taxpayers. And let's talk about this healthy and free school lunch programs. So Some people may look at this and think, okay, so, you know, a lot of people don't have time to shop, and a lot of people don't have really the money to shop and make their kids lunch, and some people can't afford lunch. And I'm not talking about the vulnerable community here. I'm talking about normal people who just send their kids to school because they don't have time to prepare breakfast for them or whatever. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. So, yeah. What makes this program, these programs and Prop LL and MM, any different from what Michelle Obama tried to create already with this healthy lunch program? It stunk. Everybody hated it. It was terrible. The kids hated the food. It all went in the trash, and it was a big flop. Right. So what makes this different? I mean, I like the fact that Colorado farmers and ranchers will benefit because there is part of this bill that says that, you know, we're going to try to buy local, eat local, you know, that whole thing. And that's great. But why do we have to raise taxes instead of just rather than getting the food from, you know, I mean, I used to work for for the school system in Douglas County. I was the kitchen manager at an elementary school. And I know that we used to get boxes of processed junk to feed the kids. And I would try to do my best to make things palatable and make things healthy and put veggies in with the rice and do stuff like that. But I also remember the pizza, the boxes of pizza that we used to buy. It was just terrible, just terrible, terrible pizza, fried chicken, terrible. And I just don't understand how, number one, when you're dealing with, you know, some schools are bigger than others, obviously, but I remember I had about 200 kids to feed at lunch. And, you know, just doing that... took up a lot of time and I, I would go off, you know, kind of off script, I guess sometimes. And, and I would do things that I probably shouldn't have, but I would order things that weren't on the list on the menu list. And I would go like bags of, of cake mix and stuff like that. I'd, I'd make these big sheet cakes for like Halloween and stuff like that, just to give the kids a little, a little treat or something. But to prepare, you know, organic meals with raw meat and raw food and that kind of thing, it's way too time-consuming. And, yes, they're saying that the kitchen managers – well, they're just saying employees that are responsible for feeding the kids – are going to get a pay raise and that whole thing because they're going to have to get there like five hours ahead of time to make and prepare raw food ingredients for kids for lunch. And I don't see how this is going to work. I just don't. I just think it's stupid ambitious and because I have no trust in of government, I think that this money is just going to go into the general fund or this pool of money, and they're going to suck it all out anyway and use it for something else. I just, that's kind of how I think. Why does our government have to suck even more money out of the taxpaying citizenry that we're already taxed more than probably 90% of the country? The bottom line is that Colorado needs new leadership. I think we're all kind of on the same page with that. We need to clean house. All of them need to go. These woke state senators, representatives, the DEI judges, and the corrupt line cheating secretary of state, the feckless governor, the corrupt DAs, all of them out. They all need to go. The Democrats that are running the show right now have no idea what they're doing, or maybe they know exactly what they're doing, and they have bad intentions, which that's kind of what I think. And the Republicans can't get anything done because we're so outnumbered. When the midterms roll around next year and Pontius Polis is term-limited out, thank God, and we elect a new governor... And many seats in the State House and Senate are up for grabs. We simply have to elect actual humans and not these demons that are in there right now. We need to elect people who are dedicated to us and not beholden to these DEI things and these green energy projects and these woke corporations. I'm done. In deciding who to elect, just look for the signs. of a man or a woman who will represent you. And not to mention, we have to get the voting machine, the DEI voting machines, all the Smartmatic and Dominion and all that stuff. That's got to go. We have to get rid of it. We need to look for people who support military and law enforcement, people who want smaller government, not bigger, people who are in favor of firing teachers if they're grooming kids for this transgender crap. They've got to go. People who are in favor of bringing like the trade school subjects back to the state's high schools, like, you know, the auto shop and woodworking shop and, you know, that kind of thing. That's got to be in our schools again. We don't have to force our kids into this higher education indoctrination camp that everybody thinks, oh, you got to go to college. You have to get that college. No, you don't. No, you don't. and we have to look for people who have Christian beliefs and Christian foundation, at least some kind of moral authority, people who recognize what happened during COVID and how we were lied to by our governor. Remember, cut up an old T-shirt and strap it on your face. It's going to keep you safe in making sure that this kind of thing never happens again. We need people who are in favor of school choice and homeschooling and, heck, homesteading. How about that? Defending the Second Amendment. Hell, we need people to defend the First Amendment. You know, I'd like to read something that came from a potential gubernatorial candidate. His name is Victor Marks. Maybe you know him. Maybe you know his name. If he gets on the ballot, I think he'll have my vote. He put out an Instagram video, and I was going to play it for you, but there's music in the background. It's kind of hard to hear over the airwaves to kind of decipher, so I'm just going to transcribe it here. He said, this state has been my home for many years. I've had relatives born here and buried here. I've watched friends, I mean good people, leave Colorado, and it breaks my heart. Young people can't afford homes. Schools are failing. Families are being torn apart by crime, drugs, and homelessness. Energy costs skyrocket. Taxes and even traffic keep rising. The worst part is a broken system propped up by corruption and unchecked leaders that have abandoned the people. I've spent my life fighting battles politicians here wouldn't dare face. protecting the vulnerable, standing with law enforcement, and proving that courage can change outcomes. Colorado doesn't need another politician. It needs a man of conviction, a leader with the backbone to fight for families, restore justice, and give this state back to the people. He says, I'm Victor Marks, and I'm considering running for governor in order to win for you, for our children, and for Colorado's future. So if you're tired of the dysfunction at the Capitol, let me know. We'll make the change together. So you can go find him on Instagram, Victor Marks. Representative Scott Bottoms is another good potential candidate. I like him. I follow him on social media. And Jason Clark is another one, very kind of no-nonsense guy. I was telling a friend this morning that I would vote for Homer Simpson before voting for anyone else. with even an inkling of transgender, you know, sympathy or climate change, any of that stuff. I'm just done. I'm done with the whole woke thing. I'm so tired of Colorado politics. These rich, educated, you know, quote unquote, educated geriatric Boulderites and big business Denver liberals are completely destroying this state. And I'm done. It's already unaffordable to live here. It's impossible to afford a home on even two decent salaries. And land? Wow, that's funny. No, land is completely out of the question. A house on land is even more unattainable. You can't even buy a piece of land. Crappy land. When we first moved into our new house, you know, when we were kind of in that transition phase between moving from the old small house to this newer house, we were looking at houses on land. And my husband was saying, you know, $5,000 an acre is basically the top of what I'm going to pay. Ha, that's funny. That's hilarious here. You can't find anything. You can buy a strip of desolate, not a tree in sight, county road, square property with no interest, no hills, no nothing. It's flat. It's, you know, for if you're lucky, $10,000 an acre. It's insane. And in my opinion, this is either you come from old money or or you've had a piece of land for more than 20 years, you can forget about it now. I mean, you really have to look and search to find something that's remotely... I'm so frustrated right now, you guys. I'm so frustrated. And this is all by design. Whether you're a conspiracy theorist or not, Colorado, particularly the Denver metro area... in my opinion, is slated to become a smart city, one of those 15-minute cities that you may or may not believe are real. So you can keep your head in the sand if you want or not believe that whole thing. It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's real, and it's marching forward with or without your belief. And the problem is so many of you don't believe it, that you're going to allow all of this stuff to continue until you're so weakened that spiritually, emotionally, financially, physically, that the system's just going to roll right over you. Okay, after all that complaining about Colorado, there has to be something we can do. And I guess we have to do it at the ballot box. And it's so funny when I think about that, I just want to scream. We need everything to be fixed right now, like yesterday, that the wheels of justice and the wheels of government turn so slowly that there is no hope for this state in this generation. I will be an old, decrepit bag of skin, too old to enjoy anything. I'll be in a wheelchair, unable to dress myself, speaking gibberish and drooling before anything gets done. When we get back, I'm going to continue with maybe some complaining and some other stuff. We'll be right back.
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And we are back. And if you were sitting in with me for the first half hour, I did a lot of complaining. As you know, I sit on Monday mornings, and I think I talk about this quite a bit, but I sit and I do doom scrolling is what I call it. I doom scroll, and I stumble upon videos that are so disturbing that it really makes me want to cry. And I'm not even on the real dark side of social media because there is a very, very dark side. So I'm going to keep this segment really short, and I'm going to give you a name to look up on TikTok. Maybe other platforms, I don't know, but TikTok is where I saw this particular guy. So I'm not going to go into detail about an account I ran across, but if you're wondering why I want to cry and you're on TikTok, Go find an account by John Tomsic. It's his name. It's J-O-N, so there's no H in his name. Tomsic, T-O-M-S-I-C-K. All I can say is, wow. That's all I can say. I know this station doesn't like me talking about a lot of this stuff. And many of you may not want to hear it either, right? But for those of you who don't believe SRA is real, and I'm not even going to say what that means, and the people who post about it may be crazy, then there's little point in me trying to convince you otherwise. But I know I've talked to many people who know nothing about any of it, any of it. And that blissful ignorance is probably better for the soul. than diving into a lot of these topics because it does really break your heart. It does. And I'm telling you, it gets so hard for people like me to present informative content without crossing some kind of line. I've crossed those lines before, and I've heard about it, and so I try to tread lightly and only present what I think that I guess everybody can digest. There are still so many people who are fast asleep that wouldn't be able to stomach some of the things that I want to get out, but I just can't. So go look up John Tomsic and watch some of his videos. And, yeah, just remember that just because it comes from social media doesn't mean it's fake, right? or it's false information or fake news or whatever. It's just information that you're not going to hear about on mainstream media, period. End of story. Go look up some of this stuff. Believe me, my feeds are filled to the brim with it. So I have to be very careful on what I present to you. I've heard from multiple, multiple different sources online that there are imminent terror attacks that are going to be directed at soft targets like hospitals and schools and public gatherings and things like that. This information has, I mean, I've seen it probably 25 different times, 25 different accounts. And yet, and allegedly this information, and I've seen the memos, This information comes from the National Counterterrorism Center or something in a memo that's been evidently circulated throughout government. It's been shown many times online. I contacted my local sheriff about this Saturday and yesterday, or maybe it was Friday and Saturday. I wrote him messages, and he responded and said, we haven't heard any credible threats. But what does that mean? What does it mean we have no credible threats? Haven't we had all kinds of terrible things happen in this country? Were there credible threats before that or not? I mean, what's the benchmark? What are we supposed to look for? What is law enforcement supposed to look for? What is our government supposed to be doing to protect us? So I don't know. I'm going to encourage each and every one of you to go out and find this kind of content, whether or not you agree with it or you want to hear it or whatever. It's out there. It's out there for your eyes to see and your ears to hear. And if you would like information on where to start, because I know these algorithms kind of have to be built over time, just send me an email. You can email, and I will leave Franktown out of this because I am a representative of Franktown Firearms. You can email me directly at my personal email at mamaglock at protonmail.com. That's the email address. That's my personal email address. And you can email me, and I will give you sources. I will give you links. I will give you accounts to follow to where you can kind of educate yourself on this kind of information that I see today. over and over and over that you just will not see on KDVR or Fox News or even MSNBC or CNN or any of it, none of it. You will not see this stuff anywhere but social media and these alt media channels. And I'm not saying that all of it is real and factual, but what I am saying is that it's out there and you just have to use your own discernment. But if it is in any way real, then you have to see it. Everybody has to see it so they can prepare themselves in whatever way. Okay, on with the show. Not really on. I'm still diving into rabbit holes, but we're going to talk about the Charlie Kirk thing again for a second. So we're going to dive back in. I know, I know. You're like, not again. No more Charlie Kirk. I've heard enough. Whatever. Since many of you are not down the rabbit hole with me, I just want to keep you up to date on these kinds of things that you may not see, things that you may think that are maybe fake or whatever, but this is the stuff that I see in my circles of social media. So you've heard me talk about Stu Peters a lot, right? The latest video that I saw about the Charlie Kirk incident unaliving is from a couple of different vantage points that I had not seen before. And to me now, it is crystal clear that the shot that unalived him came from his lapel mic. And I know what you're thinking. Oh, geez, another bit of fake news, whatever. But I'm asking you guys now, please go to the Stu Peters Network on Rumble. And if you don't have a Rumble account, just sign up. Rumble is probably the stepping stone to the rest of the stuff that I talk about, but go to Rumble because they don't censor over there. It's way different than YouTube, although it's kind of the same sort of platform, but Rumble doesn't censor, okay? So go to Stu Peters Network on Rumble. And you're going to see a little thing on the right-hand side that says last week's videos or last week, videos from last week or whatever. So click on that, and then you're going to go down the line, and you're going to search for one called Charlie Kirk's Real Assassin. And I want you to watch it. Okay? Stu Peters Network on Rumble.com. Search for last week's videos and look for one entitled Charlie Kirk's Real Assassin. You can probably search it right from Charlie or from Stu Peter's network on Rumble from the homepage. You can probably search it there as well. But this is how I found it. I had seen clips of it many times on TikTok, but I hadn't watched the whole thing. So, all right. In my opinion, this is the smoking gun, literally and figuratively. The video is very clear. It's very zoomed in, and it's very obvious. And it's funny because at first I was thinking, well, maybe they altered it or maybe it's AI and it's enhanced or it's whatever. It's the same thing. actions, the same view, you know, the whole, the way his body moves and the whole thing, you see all of it exactly the same way, but it's from a different vantage point. Okay. It's from the front, from the front, maybe to the left of him. Okay. Most of the videos are seen from the right. So you have to see this video. You have a clear shot of Charlie Kirk answering that last question that he was asked. And then he sets the mic down. or goes to set the mic down, excuse me, and then you see a literal puff and explosion under his shirt. And John Bray did a vector analysis on this video, and all the ballistic activity is right there. It's right on his shirt. It's right at his shirt. There's nothing else coming in from the front or from the back or from the outside or whatever. It's all right there. It is clear as day when you watch this video, okay? Now, not only do you have this puff and this thing, this explosion that happened, this little, I'm going to call it a mini explosion, whatever, but it puffs his shirt out. Not only do you have that right in front, but... At the exact same time, you have a guy that's also in this video. He's in a brown shirt. And he squeezes something on his... And I'm not talking about the hand signals and all that stuff. You see him squeeze something on the sleeve of his shirt. Squeeze, boom, like it's immediate at the same exact time. Okay? And then... There's another guy under the tent during all this chaos. He grabs something and puts it in his pocket. And then the guy in the brown shirt hands him something else and runs. So I'm thinking that the thing that the guy put in his pocket was probably the lapel mic. And then the guy in the brown shirt hands him probably the detonator, hands it to the same guy, and he bolts. They show it slow and zoomed, and they show it over and over and over. You guys have to just go watch it. Stu Peters Network on Rumble, last week's videos, Charlie Kirk's Real Assassin. You've got to go see it for yourself. To me, it's definitive. It's like there's no question in my mind that that's what happened. None. And what's really frustrating to me is Alex Jones said, was kind of... He wasn't just poo-pooing Stu Peters. He was like calling him a, you know, a Luciferian, you know, whatever, for putting this out, thinking that... Stu Peters was talking about a different guy in the frame that kind of crouched down after he heard the shot, he crouched down. That's not the guy that he was talking about. He was talking about the guy in the foreground and all you can see in Alex Jones's video is the guy's kind of his, a little bit of his forearm and you don't see the actual movement of the fingers and the pinching or squeezing, whatever it was that he, that he did. So it's, It's wild. There's no question in my mind. Zero question in my mind before seeing this that Tyler Robinson was absolutely not, not this 22-year-old furry lover was not the assassin. None of the official story makes sense to me. None. The only one that I, you know, the conspiracy stuff that I won't buy is the fact that he's still alive. I don't buy that at all. I think he's gone, he's passed, he's with his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. It's how he got there that's making me, you know, research and think and look at things from a different lens. And one of the things that doesn't make sense at all to me is the medical examiner saying that he was a man of steel and that Charlie Kirk's spine stopped this 30-06 round. Nope. And you heard me last week talking about Robinson's exit, you know, his sprinting away on the top of that roof. And now if you look at videos that people have put up on, you know, people are dissecting this thing like crazy. And they have this video of allegedly, you know, Tyler Robinson running across this rooftop. And the video, that video doesn't make sense. The shadows don't make sense. Nothing makes sense of that. But then he jumps off. He gets down, you know, hangs and then jumps. And then he makes his way through the neighborhood and then he escapes to you know, back to his town home in St. George, Utah, and has this beautiful conversation with his furry lover saying that they've already swept the area, and I need to go and retrieve my rifle, and yes, I did it, my love, and whatever. That's such freaking nonsense, okay? nonsense. And of course, before he got to his home after the shooting in St. George, Utah, he had to stop by Dairy Queen and get some chicky strips, okay? Because that's what you do after you assassinate a public figure in public in front of 3,000 people. That's just what you do. Well, there's even more to the story, according to Candace Owens. I don't know if you guys follow her, and some of you guys may think she's a whack job and I don't know. I'm just telling you what I've seen and what I've heard from different sources. So she allegedly has been given some information that, as of the show notes that I have typed out today, that she hasn't released yet. And I was watching, I was looking for the update up until, like, the moment that I had to come on the air. But she's made it clear that the government is saying that Tyler Robinson is suicidal. Candace is saying that that is absolutely 100% fake news. He is not suicidal, and she's emphasizing how scary it is for them to even suggest that. And she also goes into some disturbing information on her last podcast from Friday. So she put this, you know, she's been given intel or whatever information Take it for what it is, but she says that she knows about this doge-like team that was hired to investigate some finances at Turning Point USA to find out where some of the money had gone. I guess they had concerns about the possibility of money being stolen or, you know, pilfered in some way or used improperly or whatever. So there's that as well. Then, if we don't have enough to chew on now, then we have all this stuff coming out about Erica Kirk. Now, I watched the memorial. I sat there and cried. And I think Erica Kirk is a beautiful woman. I think she, you know, just in watching this on the surface and what they're deciding to present to us, It is what it is. And so in just putting myself in that space, yes, very sad, very sad for Charlie. I know he's dead, and I know that he was on the right side of everything, and God rest his soul. But the shady mystery coming out about Erica Kirk and her ministry in Romania that was actually kicked out of the country, so you can go search that, her first meeting with I guess, with Charlie Kirk in Israel, which does not jive with her official story that you've seen, the love story a million times on X or whatever about her meeting him for the first time in a job interview. So I don't understand that whole connection. Erica won the Miss Arizona pageant in 2012. You guys probably know that. But she was soon photographed inside the U.S. Department of Defense. Her mother, Lori Franz-Fay, I guess is her maiden name, worked as a – that's Eric Kirk's maiden name, obviously. She worked as a contractor for the Department of Defense, and her father actually helped develop Israel's Iron Dome as part of a contract with Raytheon. So it's all just so bizarre, and it appears as if everything is connected in some way and very incestuous, like – All the names, the faces, the players, they're all tied together. They have history. They have past. They have all these these connections with fathers and jobs and, you know, contracts with this government agency and that and the whole thing. It's just. It's insane to me. A couple of interesting comments on a video about Erica Kirk and her mom, Lori Francais, and her company I wanted to share with you that really make you scratch your head. So when you're looking at these videos that are on, like, Instagram and that kind of stuff, you're going to see, you know, these kinds of videos about Erica, and there's some really crazy stuff I'll share with you in just a second, but... So one of the comments, it says, when you're born into rich and or political families, your life has already been planned out for you. You are groomed for the roles your parents want you to play. Another comment that was really crazy, it says, his wife has been helping them plan this since May when she booked the stadium. Think about that one. And then one of the videos that I had seen prior to reading this comment was was from a woman who went and actually looked, I don't know how she found it, but she looked and saw that Turning Point USA booked the State Farm Stadium for a memorial on September whatever it was, whatever the date was of the memorial. So there's that. And then I did see another account talking about how they discovered that Turning Point USA booked the stadium for the memorial back in May. So that's just nuts. Yes. And then one commenter said, massive government connections, zero grief, smiling and laughing on the podcast, which I did see that. She's on the podcast and she's laughing and smiling. It says collected 12 million from supporters with 12 million in the bank. zeroed in on more brainwashing and money collecting in the name of God. Disgraceful. So that's that. There are even people commenting in other languages. So people all over the world are sniffing out the corruption that's going on here. And everyone knows that it wasn't an organic thing. It wasn't some gay, furry, 22-year-old kid that went rogue and decided one day to, you know, I'm going to go kill Charlie Kirk. And what they're saying, you know, his family said, yeah, he got radicalized and told his family, yeah, Charlie Kirk's going to be at UVU. And, you know, and the official narrative that he was shot with a .30-06, to me, if you're going to be – if you're going to lie about – something like that, you might want to take that down a notch and not say that it was a .30-06. You might want to create some other kind of thing. I mean, if he did get unalived by a round that was in a lapel microphone under his shirt that would fit in there, you might want to reconsider the official narrative of him being shot with a .30-06. and then the shooter jumping off a building afterward. And what's with Kash Patel's comment, I'll see you in Valhalla? Because trust me, there are plenty of theories and rabbit holes to go down surrounding that topic as well. And I know Valhalla, I think it's a very marine thing to say, but it doesn't make any sense in this context. And then we also have conspiracy theories, if you guys see these, about the Nicolas Cage movie Snake Eyes that depicts a man. And Snake Eyes was back in the early 2000s, I think, 2006 maybe, where the movie depicts a man named Charles Kirkland who happens to get assassinated on September 10th by a man named Tyler. And some are saying that that's what's called predictive programming. So I don't know what your thoughts are on all of this. I would love for you guys to call me at 303-477-5600. We're winding down here, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on this and tell me what you think. Because I'm telling you, when you fall down a couple of rabbit holes like me, you lose the rabbit. You can't find Ellis. All you see is the Mad Hatter, and he's, like, tripping on crack. and you don't even know who you are, and you've lost your shoes. Like it's just – there's so much to go through. And I sit there most mornings and go – like I don't even know what to talk about anymore. But I will discuss the NFL announcing who's going to headline their halftime show for the 2026 Super Bowl. Rapper Bad Bunny – I think he's a rapper – But Bad Bunny is going to be performing in what's sure to be the typical Luciferian display of dark energy and satanic symbolism that it always is. Obama's BFF, Jay-Z, is the guy who's responsible for booking the halftime show throughout the years here with his entertainment agency, Rock Nation. So this is no different than what we can expect, you know, going forward. But This guy is a very outspoken Trump hater. He's an anti-ICE activist and doesn't perform in English. He even canceled his entire U.S. tour because he was concerned that ICE was going to be waiting outside to scoop up all the people that were attending his shows. Oh, and he likes to cross-dress. So there's that. So he fits right in with this whole Super Bowl thing, and it's being held in the San Francisco Bay Area. So, you know, it all kind of fits. You can insert this hard eye roll right here because that's kind of what I'm doing right now. Last but not least, I'm going to talk about the 800 admirals and generals meeting in Quantico. And I've been hearing a lot of chatter about heightened terror threats, as we talked about before. What is going on? This meeting is pretty unprecedented, if you ask me, and I don't claim to know what's going on. Nobody knows what's going on, even the channels that I follow. But I know that they're not meeting for coffee and donuts and to catch up, okay? Something is brewing, and I don't think it can be good. There is a lot of speculation going on online. I can't even begin to imagine. I can't. But a lot of these people that are speculating about this have British accents, which is kind of weird because don't you guys have, like, You know, your own stuff going on over there with mass migration of Muslims and Sharia and all that. I mean, you got your own problems, but whatever. But I get to thinking about this kind of stuff, and I kind of go down the hole in my brain, Project Blue Beam. They're going to fire up the 5G towers all at once and melt everyone's brains. I don't know. You guys know how I think. Natural disaster triggered by directed energy weapons. I don't know. But Trump came out today, said it's just a meeting. We're going to see how they're doing, how we're doing militarily. You know, it sends a good message. So that's the official reason for the meeting. So there you go. That's going to do it for me today, you guys. Love you all. Thank you so much for tuning in, spending the last 58 minutes with me in the fastest hour in broadcasting. Send me an email. If you guys want to hear some sources or get some sources, mamaglock at protonmail.com. I'd be happy to exchange information with you. Check out Franktown Firearms. We'd love to have you in a CHP class. We have one coming up on the 4th. Sign up. Go to RecoilSun.com and sign up for that class. Mama Glock is out for now. Take care, everyone. God bless.
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