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Join John Rush and the team on Rush to Reason as they take you through a rollercoaster of reviews and insights on the latest movies. This Friday episode kicks off with a lively introduction and segues into a thoughtful critique of the new release, The Smashing Machine, featuring Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson. Between movie reviews, the discussion is enriched with health advice from Dr. Scott Faulkner, focusing on personalized and regenerative medicine approaches.
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It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I'm a pro, Jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's gonna sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, uh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
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What do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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All right, it is Friday. Happy Friday, everybody. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and it is a beautiful day outside.
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It is gorgeous.
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Love it. Absolutely. We'll take it. All right, we've got, what, three movies to do today, right?
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Yeah, we've got The Smashing Machine, Good Boy, and Coyotes.
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All right, so three movies today. We'll get those wrapped up in this first hour. Second hour, we're going to do, of course, NFL picks. And the movie rental hour is Howlers, movies with dogs or wolves. Dogs or wolves. That's a good genre. I like this one.
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Yeah, by the way, that includes werewolves, of course, because they howl.
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Yeah, that's true. They do.
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Yeah, there you go. Okay. We're very open-minded here at Rush to Reason.
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Yes, we are. So when it comes to movies, we'll take any of them. And again, that hour, we have a lot of fun. In a lot of cases, I don't know about the rest of you, but I will take a lot of the movies that we talk about and think, oh, yeah, that's when I got to rewatch again. And that's what I'll, you know, I'll pick one of those and do that.
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Oh, yeah. It seems like almost every week I'll pick one of them and have Corey and I watch it. And we'll just be like, my gosh, we forgot how much we like this.
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We do exactly the same thing. So that's partially why we do it during that hour. All right. Without further ado, we'll take a quick break here. We're going to come back so Andy can get the three movies in. Dr. Scott coming up next, by the way. Again, he is my doctor. I say it all the time, but he thinks exactly like we do. He wants to take care of you and help you get to your best health. 303-663-6990.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John! Are you ready for a movie? Always. Okay, well, The Rock gets serious in The Smashing Machine.
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Please give a round of applause for Mark Curran.
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Hello, and thank you to everyone for allowing me to be here today. You have been extremely understanding to me, dealing with my personal struggles.
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Let's do it. He's the best. There's no way. I can't believe that. Why? Because of my tummy.
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You know what that would do to my tummy. I would get sick everywhere.
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No, it's about perspective, okay? Just let you live without a trace. On the inside, you don't feel it. You're like pinned against the wall. When I stand here taking every breath with you. Oh my goodness! That is out! This is truly shocking. When he's distant, it's hard.
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I'm sacrificing everything. What do you have for me that's strong? I'll do it. A day without pain is like a day without sunshine.
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The skin's bad.
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The skin's insane.
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You know what I'm doing, right? This is it. That's it. What happened? I'm so sorry. It's me. You don't have to apologize, okay? I know that you've been questioning whether I am the fighter that you thought that I was. And one of my biggest regrets in life is the answer to that question.
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I wasn't.
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I promise that I'm going to make this up to you.
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To see Mark back out there is truly remarkable.
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I just need you to let me in.
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With everything he's been through, does he still have it in him? What happens next? It's simple. Get up, Mark, get up. Am I going to hurt him before he hurts me? Get up, Mark, come on. Ready? I think so. You think so? Come on, Mark, it's a yes or no answer. Come on, are you ready?
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Yes.
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Ah, Markitos!
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All right, John, that is the Smashing Machine. Does it look interesting?
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It looks very good.
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Okay, here we go. It's hard to believe MMA fighting was ever a new thing, isn't it? I mean, today, arenas fill for it. Trump, he largely got elected by it, but back in the 90s, MMA fighters barely got by. Well, enter Mark Kerr, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and we like him, of course. He was a huge guy who pounded men in the ring, but he had to do most of it in Japan because the laws weren't friendly here. Now, Mark is a quiet, reasonable fellow, but his whole life is fighting. His girlfriend, Dawn, played, of course, by Emily Blunt, shares a loving relationship with Mark, but she has to deal with the fallout of his professional. Okay, and it's a lot. That means pain.
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Right.
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Lots of physical pain. Well, pain brings painkillers, which brings addiction, which brings collapse. Remember Brett Favre? He went through this. Right, right. And through it all, Mark becomes angrier and more depressed as he pushes himself in ways to keep his edge and survive the pain. Well, ultimately, this can't continue, and Dawn must help Mark recover. But will she? After all, Dawn's, well, she's not Mother Teresa herself, John. And when you hit rock bottom, you do it together. Hmm. And somehow you must fight your way back. Well, through it all, Mark has a good friend, an opponent in the ring also named Mark. He was named Mark Coleman, and he's played by Ryan Bader. And why do I say he was named Mark Coleman? Because this is a true story.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, it's based on a true story. Mark Coleman understands and can help. But what about their competition? Destiny awaits both of them in the ring. And that's the story of the Smashing Machine. What do you think?
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It looks really good, and it looks really weird to see Dwayne Johnson with hair.
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Yep. All right, here we go. Well, what works in the Smashing Machine? Number one, I don't know about Oscar-worthy. I'm not going to go that far. But Johnson's portrayal was raw and committed. It was certainly the best acting that he has done. There's an in-depth look behind the scenes of MMA in its early stages, and I found that kind of fascinating. I really loved Johnson's style in talking to people, very rational, very fair, very troubled. And he really conveyed this very well. He did a great job of being this rational, fair, calm kind of person. And honestly, that is Dwayne Johnson. In real life, he's a very rational kind of guy. He can agree with them, disagree with some of his things. But Dwayne Johnson's a very rational kind of guy when you see him in interviews. And that came through in this movie. Now, the drug addiction was real, complete with methods of getting it. And they conveyed that. I like that. The action in the ring, realistic or not, was brutal. So, you know, I kind of like, you know, showing the various different kinds of MMA. Well, what is MMA? Mixed martial arts. So it is basically different people coming from different kinds of fighting styles to see which one works best. For those who haven't really thought much about MMA, that's what you do. You got wrestling, you got boxing, you got karate, all these things come together in the ring. And also they have a good training montage at one point. I kind of enjoyed that. And finally, you got a nice performance. And I actually think maybe the best performance came from Ryan Bader playing his friend Mark Coleman. All right. What doesn't work in the Smashing Machine? Oh, boy. The struggle here is between is this film impressive versus do I want to watch this? Okay. My, my strong feelings were, I don't want to watch this. And I mean that feeling, I didn't want to watch it going in and it grew. And there are times where there'll be a movie. I don't want to watch peanut butter Falcon. Okay. And I'm, my mind is totally changed early on in the movie. Not here. It actually grew. It got worse. This is a typical drug addiction film of a performer press too far, seen it before, hated it every time, hate it now. And unlike the Iron Claw, this really doesn't offer that much hope amidst the depression. Very depressing. His addiction is awful. His girlfriend is selfish. Having finally forgotten Uncut Gems, I now have this misery.
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I was going to mention that one.
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Yeah, I now have this misery damaging my psyche for years to come. And by the way, this was written and directed by the guy who wrote and directed Uncut Gems.
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Okay.
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And now, don't get me wrong, it's not as depressing and bad as Uncut Gems. Uncut Gems damaged me.
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Which is still a good movie. It's just very depressing.
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Right. It's a well-made movie. It's a very good movie. That is incredibly depressing that I can't imagine anybody wanting to watch. It's a one-time watch. You might have a surgeon who does a tremendous heart surgery. Do you want to watch it? Probably not. Okay. And that's Uncut Gems.
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Right.
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And a lot of this was going on here. Now, the pace in this movie is glacial. It is so slow. I mean, it's really slow. Trudging through arguments and addiction and pain and collapse. Emily Blunt, she is fine as the gorgeous girl stereotype, but anybody could have done her role. I really don't know why they needed Emily Blunt for this role, but why not? You know, she does a good job. She's obviously a hottie, and she's also a great actress. But there wasn't that much. I don't know. Perhaps the worst part of these downfall stories is the predictability. OK, you know where everything you know, everything that's coming, you know where it's going. And OMG, does this take a long time getting there? Painful. Basically, this had about 40 minutes of story and over two hours of film. It really did. All kinds of extra moments needed editing badly. Ever since the CIA dumped enhanced interrogation, I thought this kind of torture ended. OK, and even the ending. The resolution of it is not good. It's not fulfilling at all. I felt totally unfulfilled at the ending. So I'm just sitting there going, well, let's see. I haven't enjoyed any of the last two hours. Yes, I've gotten to see some impressive acting. I've gotten to see a lot of very good acting. I've gotten to see a peek behind the world of MMA in its early stages. I think seeing something modern would be more interesting. I've gotten to see The Rock do things that he can't do. I've gotten to see a true story. But you know what? It wasn't uplifting. this true story really wasn't very uplifting at all um this was awful this was an awful experience for me at the theater it was awful for me okay but now as you know the reviewers are going to grade it up why because of the artsy nature of it and because you've got I mean, look at what they did for Uncut Gems. They gave it great reviews. A movie nobody would want to go to. Okay? So I'm just going to be honest. Rotten Tomatoes, 75%. No. Okay. I'm sorry, but do I think that some of the artistic quality of it is 75% worthy? Yes. Do I think it's that good of a movie to go to? No. Quality, one and a half stars. For me, it was zero. I'm actually being very kind with the 1.5. Okay. This was not fun to go to at all. And by the way, the storyline didn't move along as well as Uncut Gems. it dragged more. And it was just, it was a rough watch. It was a very rough watch. Political three, moral, religious two, you know, nothing big. I'm not saying everybody's going to go into this and hate it like I did. No, I'm not reviewing the movie for me. I'm reviewing it for everybody. But I will say this, John, this is a very slow movie. This is a movie that has a lot of moments where, because they're trying to do it kind of a documentary style with the shaky camera. So they're trying to make it very real. So a lot of times those movies will include a lot of content that you probably don't need. There are some good poignant moments, but a lot of dragging in between. This was a hard watch. This was not an enjoyable movie. I'm sorry. That's the truth. It's just no fun to watch. And so do I recommend going to the Smashing Machine? I'll say this. I'm not going to say no, because if you really like these kind of documentaries and people's lives spiraling downward, I'll be honest. No, but I'll be honest, John. You like these kind of movies. You do.
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I'll watch it once probably.
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A Star is Born. You like movies where stars, music stars or whatever, their lives go downhill because it's fascinating for you because you study that kind of thing. All right. And I think for people like you, I think you might actually enjoy this movie. Okay. Might not because it's slow.
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The slowness would be hard.
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That would be hard. Would I recommend you go to it? No. I think people who are really, really, really wanting to see The Rock— I won't pay to watch it.
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I'll watch it at some point in the future on a rental or something, probably.
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Yeah, because then you can turn it off. But, I mean, if you're talking about people who really, really, really want to watch The Rock do something real like this, and he does a fine job, and you want to watch a little bit of MMA and how that starts out— See, I'm not— They don't show enough in the ring.
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Well, for me, that's the biggest thing that I'm, and people might be surprised at this, I'm not an MMA fan.
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Oh, me either.
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At all. There's something about two people in a ring bloodying each other up that I just, I'm sorry. And I know Trump and a lot of guys love it, but I'm not one of those, Andy.
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Well, I'm actually kind of a purist. I like boxing.
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I like boxing better than this.
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Yeah, to me, boxing is really cool, and I'm also pretty fascinated by karate. I like the pure forms, but when you mix them like that, for me, it's not as fun. I like watching pure karate or pure boxing. I think it's really entertaining. This isn't as much. Look. It's a slow movie. That's all I'm going to say. This is a slow crawl and very depressing. Is it as depressing as Uncut Gems? No, not nearly. Nothing is. But it is.
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He just spirals out of control.
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Yeah.
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Constantly. Every time you think he's going to get ahead, he doesn't. Now, I will say, the one thing about Uncut Gems is you don't know the ending. You think, because most of those shows like that, you would think at the end, he's going to come back and have big success.
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Yeah, we can do total spoiler here.
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Yeah, we don't care.
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Yeah, Uncut Gems, don't watch it, so we're going to spoil it for you. No, it gets worse and worse and worse, and then he dies.
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Right. There is no comeback at the end. That's the worst part about the movie. It's like, oh, there's no celebration or anything like that at the end, like there isn't a lot of movies, Andy.
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Right, and while Dwayne Johnson did a good job in The Smashing Machine, was he as impressive as Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems? No.
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Well, he's not as good of an actor. Sorry, he's just not.
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No, he isn't.
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He's a fun actor, and he's always fun in movies, and he's one of those guys that, yes, you'll go pay to watch, but is he Adam Sandler? No.
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No. Did he stretch himself in this? Yes. But a little example here. Every time he cried, he had to bury his head in his hands. Why?
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Because he's not an actor that cries.
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Right. He's not an actor. He's not an actor. He couldn't convey real crying. And you could tell the director was covering for him. I've seen this done, by the way, with other jock actors when they have to have a crying scene. A lot of times they bury their heads. Why? Because to really cry in a show, yeah, they wet your eyes and so forth, but to convey it takes acting quality. He couldn't do it, and I know he couldn't do it. But do I feel that Dwayne Johnson did a good, good job acting in this movie overall? Yes. And do I credit him for that? Yes. Would I ever want to see even five minutes of this movie again? No.
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Okay.
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All right.
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private and we guarantee that you will enjoy the experience the best export we have is common sense you're listening to rush to reason welcome back to rush to reason denver's afternoon rush klz 560 john rush together with andy pate and john are you ready for another movie absolutely all right john well what would it be like to be a dog in a horror movie let's find out in good boy
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I guess I'm next.
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All right, John, you get virtually nothing out of that preview.
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I have no idea what's going on.
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Well, let's jump in. Have you ever noticed how in the movies dogs seem to know when evil is lurking? Yes. They got that sixth sense. They really do. They bark at the dark corner. They suspect someone is behind that bench. Well, in Good Boy, Indy is a retriever raised from a puppy by Todd, who's played by Shane Jensen, his owner. They're best friends, and Todd is Indy's whole life. But then Todd goes through serious health issues and winds up moving into his grandfather's house that he inherited. Everyone says don't go there because it's haunted. Yes, people actually agree on that, John. That's kind of a bad sign right there. Well, we've all seen good men driven mad in horror films. Remember The Shining? But what if that man has a dog who looks to him for everything? What's more, Indy is a dog and as such can see evils in the home. which is kind of interesting happening. So you've got the dog, and he's seeing the darkness in the corner grow into a person or whatever, right? So he's seeing a lot going on that the man can't. Well, most of the actual dialogue is in the distance, as this was from Indy's perspective. We're watching a horror film unfold through a dog's eyes. It's something I've never seen done before. And this home has a history where a pet was killed. Well, that's not good for Indy, right? That's kind of a bad sign. And, of course, Grandpa, he died there too. That was him talking. I guess I'm next. I should have never come here. Well, he was watching film of Grandpa. Todd was watching film of Grandpa talking. All right. No one lasts here that long. So what will happen to Indy's world? Because his whole world is Todd. Right. Who will survive and what will we learn about how pets see us and the world around them? And that is the story of Good Boy. What do you think?
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It's interesting.
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Interesting.
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Interesting story. Yeah.
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All right. Well, let's jump in. Well, what works in Good Boy? Well, first of all, a totally different look at horror from someone who can't understand it because the dog can't understand what's going on here, but he is seeing it. Now, if there's an Oscar for best non-human actor, this dog gets it.
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Okay.
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I was really impressed with what they were able to do with this dog. I've never quite seen a dog directed in this way. And I was a little taken aback at how they set up the dog. and had the facial expressions and all these kinds of things with what was going on in the movie. Very well done. Next, this is a short film, John. Only an hour and 13 minutes. 73 minutes. Wow. Yeah, exactly. Short. Exactly. Well, there's a plot point that becomes more real. As it goes along, but you can tell they're developing this rather quickly. Finally, solid scares with a raw, low-budget feel. Great camera work and perspective. That was what a lot of the horror was, was almost all camera work, perspective, perspective, camera work. And, you know, sometimes wearing various makeup and so forth. Basically, this was cheap. This was cheap. He had very little CGI. He had some, but not a lot. All right. What doesn't work in Good Boy? Well, first of all, the dog's perspective limits the scope of the drama. You barely see people's faces. And it's really hard. It's hard to really connect with what's going on. I know you're supposed to connect with the dog, but, you know, I got a news flash here, John. We're not dogs. Right. And it's a little hard to. Next problem, really low budget. I mean, really low. I think the dog wrote it. All right. This was an incredibly low budget film and it shows. Next. I hate to say this. This is the long hour in 13 I've seen in years. More depressing than scary. It was very depressing, very sad as his owner, as Todd goes through his health issues. I saw this after the Smashing Machine. Okay, so I'm entering an asylum today after the show.
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So it didn't take you.
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Yeah, I've already booked a spot.
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Didn't lift your spirits.
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No. Watching the Smashing Machine and then this. Wow. This was very rough for me. Good horror is kept alive by hope. Right. You got to have hope for the main characters. I hope it works out. I hope they get through this. I hope she survives this slasher who's coming, breaking through all these doors with axes and so forth. I hope, I hope. Well, there is no hope in this movie. Not much. And that's really hard. OK, that gets hard. Supposedly, critics saw artfulness. That's what they saw in following a dog around and then adding cheap effects as if the dog is reacting to them.
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OK.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. John, I saw a dog walking around with cheap CGI and makeup tricks plastered in later. That's what I saw. All right. I just it's like, you know, nothing is really happening here or not much. I mean, I watched a dog walk around for an hour. That's a rough watch.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that would be.
SPEAKER 04 :
You have dogs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, I want you to imagine, John, just taking an afternoon. Do this tomorrow afternoon. Spend an hour watching your dog.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, thanks.
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No?
SPEAKER 05 :
I've got better things to do. Not brave enough? I've got other stuff to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, I just did that, and that was kind of hard. I was looking forward to this film. I really was because I thought it was really fascinating having a horror story from the dog's perspective. I was really, really looking forward to this. But if every hour were as long as this one, I'd live forever.
SPEAKER 06 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Not bad. Oh, yes. Hour 13, and I'm serious, it felt like a solid two hours. It did. It was just too slow, just not enough happening. Once again, the actual storyline of what was happening in this movie, just like the previous movie, Smashing Machine had about 45 minutes of story, two hours of movie, seriously, dragged out all over the place. Here, you probably had about 20 minutes of actual plot line, maybe 30. And they dragged it out because they were showing what it's like for a dog to experience things slowly. Well, okay, that can be artful, and I can enjoy that for a while, but it becomes tedious, and it did. Rotten Tomatoes, once again, they loved it. You know, I'm starting to think Rotten Tomatoes is getting lower standards. We're going to talk about that in the next segment. They gave it 91%. Wow. No, no, no. This was, come on. This is 91%. That's four and a half stars. That means I'm coming out of this movie, and I just saw Ford v. Ferrari. Yeah, you're ready to go to see it again. And I'm saying, man, I want to see this again. I'll wait a few months, but then I've got to rent this again. This is really good. Hey, I can't wait to watch this with the wife. No.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not that good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Come on. No, two stars quality. And I'm being nice because the dog was terrific, and I love dogs. And it was interesting, and also a lot of the camera work was very well done. And the cheap scares, they really worked them well. And I'm going to give them credit for that, but I can't go above two stars. I was bored out of my mind. Come on. Political three, moral, religious three, said nothing in any way, shape, or form, so I like that. No agenda. But, John, don't go to Good Boy. You're going to be bored. Good Boy is a bad movie.
SPEAKER 05 :
Be a good boy and stay home.
SPEAKER 04 :
Be a good boy. You know what you should do? Just take your own dog out for a walk.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go have fun.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And, you know, because watching misery, and I understand there are some people who love watching misery. No. Who can watch Brian's song eight times or whatever. Beaches. You know, I'm sorry, but it's not fun.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, that's not uplifting.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I didn't see, there were actually quite a few people in this movie watching this. It's going to be a bit of a sleeper hit at first just because it's so intriguing. I don't think it's going to last. So there you go. Good boy. Do I recommend it? No, I do not.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate, and John! Are you ready for a third movie?
SPEAKER 05 :
Hopefully it's better than the first two.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that was depressing. Okay. Well, John, fires in L.A. I mean, we've seen that recently, right? So what's the bigger concern? What's the biggest concern when you have fires in L.A.? Well, bloodthirsty coyotes, of course. You didn't guess that, right?
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Well, here we go.
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Let's watch coyotes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Gigi, walk. Oh, my God, I'm so done with this dog.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, my God, I love your dog.
SPEAKER 10 :
Gigi, go potty now. It's exhausting being this hot. Are you worried about the tree out front?
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm not worried.
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You did say that you were going to trim it last year.
SPEAKER 15 :
We can wait.
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Guys, guys, guys. There's something outside.
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Okay. Give me, give me.
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No, right now.
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Right now.
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Wow. Make sure it's okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
What was it?
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Just a sketchy little coyote. No big deal.
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Do you hear that sound? Sounds like somebody's singing or dying. Oh, it's gone now.
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They can open doors?
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Is it bad? Uh, no, don't look. Why? Why don't you want me to look? Everybody in it? Everybody okay? It's just... It's okay! Oh, shit. This is definitely a bad idea. Get away!
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Fuck!
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They want your shelter, your food, your water, your sanity. I just want to say...
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I hope those aren't my last words. Okay, John, what do you think of coyotes?
SPEAKER 05 :
Even the preview is wild.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, you know, what's the biggest difference between coyotes and wolves?
SPEAKER 05 :
They're smaller.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no. The biggest difference is wolves have a lot more movies.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, there we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I mean, I've never seen a movie about coyotes. I've seen coyotes in movies, but not like this. And these coyotes were pretty big, by the way. I was pretty surprised. All right. Well, we find our story in Los Angeles where fires have taken a terrible toll, not in the city, but in the hills behind it.
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Okay.
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Well, these fires have forced animals out of forests. Now, one group of animals is coyotes, and hey, they gotta eat. Did you know people are just walking meat?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
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Well, now you do. They are. Now you know that, yes. Well, Scott and Liv, they're played by real-life married couple Justin Long and Kate Bosworth, and they're a couple living in L.A. They have a teen daughter named Chloe, who is played by Mila Harris, and some kooky neighbors. Hey, it's L.A., of course, they have kooky neighbors. And a rat problem in their walls. So, they get an exterminator. Now, Devon, the exterminator is played by Kier O'Donnell, is determined to get these terrible pests since since, you know, if it starts here, the whole neighborhood is at stake. He's very serious. Meanwhile, the family blames their sloppy neighbor, Trip, who likes to party. That's why they've got these rats. But now they and their neighbors and of all people, a prostitute named Julie. She's played by Brittany Allen. They're overrun by the elements and by coyotes. So coyotes are just flooding into the area. This is a lot like Crawl. Remember the movie Crawl, the film that has a hurricane that floods gators into a town, and the gators just tear everybody apiece. Okay, well, the normally standoffish coyotes are now hunting to survive, and people are tasty. So it's a blood-soaked battle to the finish. Who will survive? Who will die? Will everyone die? Will LA's population be replaced by a new population of coyotes? That is the story of coyotes. What do you think?
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Again, the previews are even weird.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know they are. Okay, well, what works in Coyotes? Well, first of all, you have a clever premise, right? Since Coyotes are really bigger than most people realize. It's surprising. I did not know they were this big.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good-sized dog?
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Yeah, it's a good-sized dog, and they can be pretty mean. It's very gory. This movie is very gory, starting with an influencer filming herself in L.A. fashion, and she's a supermodel filming herself. Bye-bye!
SPEAKER 05 :
I saw the preview.
SPEAKER 04 :
I kind of enjoyed that. The funniest character is Devin the Exterminator. They should have used him more. And Keira O'Donnell did a terrific job as Devin the Exterminator. Justin Long and Kate Bosworth. They have a very relaxed chemistry together. And I guess you would expect that since they're married. But it shows on screen. Sometimes I've seen movies where married couples are in them together and it does not work at all. So here it did. That's good. What doesn't work in Coyotes? Well, for a horror comedy, this has too little comedy, especially in the second half. The first half I thought had some pretty good laughs. Second half it really tailed off. The writing just isn't good enough, John. And that's a real waste of such comedic talents in the cast because they've got some very funny people. This horror film had more stupid people basically asking to get eaten than I've ever seen. I mean, seriously, my goodness. Does no one in LA ever lock their doors and windows? Ever? With coyotes overrunning the area, would you leave a coyote-sized doggy door unsecured?
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, are they kidding? No, you would not. It's sitting there for like 20, 30 minutes, the doggy door, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
And these coyotes are all through the— Yeah, you'd lock that thing up.
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Yeah, I'd nail it shut. Of course you would. I'd do something. Yeah, unbelievable. And when they shoot, didn't anyone ever bother to, you know, aim? No. I mean, I haven't seen this many bullets wasted since Roger Moore was making James Bond movies. Remember all the bullets in the air and one or two guys would drop? That's what this was like. It was unbelievable. Next. These coyotes were so CGI, they looked like paintings. I mean, it was crazy. Everyone was getting eaten by a wild pack of rabid paintings. I... It's hard to explain, John. The solution was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I won't explain it. The area is being overrun by countless coyotes, but Justin Long finds a solution that's personal to a couple of the coyotes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
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Why would that matter? I don't know. I mean, there are hundreds of them. They're coming down from the hills. They're overrunning. You hear screaming in the back. They're listening and they're hearing people throughout their neighborhoods screaming and running in terror and being eaten, right? He finds a solution that I guess matters for a couple coyotes. Dude, I have no idea why. Okay. Yes, let's see. Oh, here's one. The coyotes, they fled the wildfires, but they don't run from a burning building that's right behind them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why?
SPEAKER 05 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, there are people to eat throughout the whole area. Why would they stay right next to a burning building? Makes no sense. At one point, a guy's entire rib cage is exposed and his flesh eaten off. Isn't that disgusting? Yeah, I know. I know. But it's cheap and silly and stupid. Well, anyway, he's still alive. That's disgusting. No, no, no. Look, this movie was stupid, John. It was. And don't get me wrong. I mean, I'm okay with that because I'm thinking, okay, stupid comedy. Tremors. It's not like Tremors tried to be realistic throughout the movie, but Tremors was obviously much, much, much funnier than this. For those who haven't seen Tremors, four stars across the board. Trust me, that's worth seeing. Coyotes is not. Rotten Tomatoes gave the 69%. Man, are they being forgiving lately.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's high.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I do not understand it. Quality, one and a half stars for Coyotes. And by the way, I was reading some of the audience reviews. They were not as friendly. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're being kind.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, I mean, they were not as friendly as the critics.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know what's going on with the critics right now, John. They are giving a lot of very friendly reviews and giving a lot of bad advice. I have no idea why. We're going to talk about that here in a moment with another movie. But they're crazy. Political three, more religious three. It doesn't say a thing. That's nice. This is just... You know, this is trying to be a horror comedy that I'm going to give it one and a half stars. You know what? Let me be nice. I'm going to bring it up to two because I like Justin Long a lot, and I thought the first half was actually... Decent? Decent. Fairly funny for a while, and then it just drags. Then it falls apart. So I'm going to give it two. I'm going to go two because I was thinking it's pretty good for one and a half.
SPEAKER 05 :
So this wasn't near as good as Cujo? No.
SPEAKER 04 :
No. No, it was not.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's too bad. All right, give us one more.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, you remember we were talking about a couple weeks ago, One Battle After Another?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, a new movie that came out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Was that last week?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it was last week. Total Lib movie, just came out.
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Leonardo DiCaprio. Now, I didn't go to it, not because it was liberal, but because it's very long, and it would have made it so I couldn't have seen anything else, because at the theater, it was crossing over the other movies. That's why I couldn't see it. But anyway, I got a good friend. His name is Eric Schreiber. We talk movies now and then. And Eric went to this movie. And I've got just a minute or two to give his review just to warn people. He goes, total leftist propaganda. At first, I thought it was supposed to be satirical. I'm reading from Eric here. But as plot twisted toward the ending, ugh, I'm so disappointed because I really like his other work. He's talking about Paul Thomas Anderson, who's done a lot of other work. Let's see here. And I will never trust Rotten Tomatoes again. I'm telling you what, a lot of people don't right now. The use of stereotyping to manipulate has never been used to more effect, and by the end, a director's bias is revealed. Sean Penn, who obviously is ultra-left, he never would have agreed to do the equivalent character representing the other side. Pure bias. He says, this is the sponsored trailer which portrays DiCaprio's character as a Rambo-esque version of Che Guevara. Okay. I haven't been able to uncover who the sponsor is. George Soros? But he just said, this is awful. This is crap. And I saw online, I did see a couple of videos of conservative reviewers reviewing this, and they were just mocking it and just saying, my gosh, this isn't even a movie. This is a pro-Antifa, I don't know, advertisement. It is so bad.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's that bad. Well, I know I saw some of the previews, didn't it? Even the previews made it look that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And what, of course, are the reviews like? Probably high. Oh, very high. Go see the movie.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's great.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, yeah. Four and a half percent. Four and a half stars it should be because they're in the 90s. And it's just like, oh, it's the greatest movie ever. And this is as big an example as you could ever find of reviewers just loving a movie because of the agenda and being very forgiving. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm sure that Leo did a great job acting because he always does. There was probably a lot of fine acting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Still.
SPEAKER 04 :
But yuck. And basically what I was hearing in a number of these other reviews was boring, slow, unbelievably biased. This is the most biased movie since Barbie. In fact, this is more biased possibly than Barbie. Wow. I mean, so far left wing. So there you go. Anyway, when we warn you about movies, we warn you about movies. This one I didn't even bother going to. Thank you, Eric Schreiber, for warning all of our customers. Yep, take one for the team for us. Yes, you took one for the team, Eric.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, Eric. Yeah, that one I can almost tell from the previews that's like, yeah, this isn't going to be a great movie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. This is going to be just awful. You're going to go into it as a conservative and be bashed over the head with how bad you are. This was the ultimate anti-MAGA movie.
SPEAKER 05 :
You might as well just do the liar, liar move in the bathroom.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, exactly. I'm kicking my own ass.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just do that instead. You'd be better off.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because that's what's going to happen inside the theater.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it doesn't take as long. Exactly. Take your beating quick.
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. All right, real quick question of the day. This is yesterday. Name the 2009 sitcom that was canceled after airing just one episode. It immediately followed American Idol. It was Osbourne's Reloaded. It starred Ozzy, Sharon, Jack, and Kelly. The one episode aired on Fox after American Idol in March of 2009. But most of the affiliates refused to air it due to concerns of vulgar language and risque subject matter. So it ended.
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Okay.
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All right. Today's a possible question. Approximately how much does an average cumulus cloud weigh? That is the question of the day today. So there's an article I was telling Andy, Wall Street Journal I was reading today. L.A.' 's entertainment economy is looking like a disaster movie. In other words, it's a dumpster fire.
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It is. And it's because of regulations. It's because of cost of labor. And that's a lot of it. And it's not just that people are moving a lot of their movie making out of L.A., which they are. They're moving it around the country, but they're also moving out of the country.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Period. And they're filming everywhere around the world because labor is so much cheaper. I've heard directors basically say, look, I can film something in America. Or I can fly the entire crew overseas to like Ireland or New Zealand or one of these places or China, film one film there. And by, you know, I can pay for all of them to have free lodging the entire time. Right. And do all kinds of things for them the entire time, then come back and still save a dramatic amount of money versus trying to pay the union workers here in America to make a movie.
SPEAKER 05 :
Doesn't shock me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Doesn't shock me. Remember when unions drove the auto industry out of Detroit? I think unions are really crushing the movie-making industry here in America. And of all people who's trying to save it, it's Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, he is obviously putting tariffs on making movies overseas. I'm not sure how that will play because there are so many aspects of it. But he's also pointing the finger at Gavin Newsom and saying, you guys have got to dramatically lower tariffs. Your restrictions that you put on them because you put them through all these environmental restrictions. You put them through all these labor restrictions and you make it too expensive to make a movie. Let me ask you, John, businessman. What do you think of the wisdom of what they're doing in Hollywood? Are they ending Hollywood?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they are. They're going to kill it. They're on their way. It's a dumpster fire right now. This article basically says exactly everything you're talking about, Andy. It's just they're ruining themselves.
SPEAKER 04 :
What would you recommend? Because you've turned around businesses. What would you recommend?
SPEAKER 05 :
The biggest issue there, to your point, is on the state level, they've got to get some things changed around to where they can do things that they're not doing right now, lower their costs, and the union being one of the big ones.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
The problem is in California, Newsom, good luck. Right. No, I agree. Because that guy's a moron.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, the problem we can sum up in one word, Democrats. You know, I just watched a movie, Coyotes. They should do one just called Democrats.
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Because it's exactly what they do.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's a horror movie.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're just devouring everything that they, you know, they roam around seeking who they can devour. They do. They're locusts. They move on.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
You say that all the time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And everybody flees their states and moves to Florida. Exactly what they do.
SPEAKER 05 :
They screw it all up and then leave.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Hour number two, movie rental hour. We're going to do movies with, it's called Howlers, basically. So movies with dogs or wolves. We'll do NFL picks to start with. Don't go anywhere. Hour two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Average guys.
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Average guys.

Join us on The Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast as we delve into the biggest stories making headlines. From the tragic shooting in Michigan to the ongoing government shutdown standoff, we unpack the intricate details and offer unique insights. We’ll explore how these events impact everyday Americans, the political implications, and what could happen next.
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From director Sean McNamara comes Soul on Fire, based on a true story. They said you had no chance, but here you are. Starring Joel Courtney, John Corbett, Stephanie Shostak, Macy McLean, with Devon Franklin and William H. Macy.
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If you focus exactly on loving the life that you're living right now, and not the life that you think you could have had or should have had, that's a whole deal right there.
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Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. I'm Eric Hansen. It's Friday, October 3rd, 2025. And this week, Hillary Clinton opens up about white Christians, the government shuts down over health care, and New York City Mayor Eric Adams drops out of the race for re-election. We begin in rural Michigan, the site of yet another deadly shooting.
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I don't even know why I'm starting with this, but I feel like I have to, to once again explain the idiocy... Of the left. And not everything is left and right anymore. We just got to stop with the, it's the left's fault, it's the right's fault. There was this horrible shooting at a Mormon church in Michigan. Ex-Marine. Lunatic. American flags. Oh, he has a Trump sign in his front yard. Okay. He apparently hated Mormonism. So once again, innocent people of faith are slaughtered in a church on Sunday. You know what I care about? Are people in church able to protect and defend themselves? To me, that's the only story that matters out of Michigan. Four killed. Four people killed. Guy, this... This degenerate coward slams his truck into the side of the wall, tries to put the building on fire, kills the bishop of the church, and they had to wait until the police got there before they finally took him out. He engaged in a shootout with the cops, and thankfully, and God bless law enforcement, but how long do you suppose that took? If half the congregation was armed and it's rural Michigan, I think lots of people there carry. But what do you think the odds were that it was a gun-free zone? Time and... We are up against evil right now. We got people driving around with bumper stickers on their Subarus that say, make assassinations great again. Now, think about... How bold do you have to be to believe that that's normal? After the whole world watched Charlie Kirk get assassinated in Utah, and they take the font and the red and white letters of MAGA, and they print up a bumper sticker that says, make assassinations great again, and slap it on the back of their car. Do you realize... How depraved you have to be to think that's okay? Is that funny to you? And now they're identifying the people that are doing it. Look, I know the doxing thing is uncomfortable and dangerous, and somebody's going to get killed when somebody gets doxed. Doxed is when the personal information or details of somebody are made public. Apparently, the woman that had the Make Assassinations Great Again bumper sticker on her car in Maine, in the state of Maine, owns a restaurant, a diner somewhere. Well, guess what? Now, she's going to get harassed and targeted and bombarded with people who can't believe her idiocy.
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You may have heard that the government shut down this week. Democrats and Republicans clashed over health care spending and could not pass a spending bill. As I say, you may have heard about it. You may not have noticed it. Our guest host, Joey Hudson, explains.
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Did you wake up feeling just a bit different this morning? Did you feel like it? that our federal government is shut down? Is anything different for you this morning than maybe it was yester morning when you started your day? Well, as expected, the GOP and the Democrats last night could not come to terms on a continuing resolution to keep our government open, so the federal government is closed for business today. We're going to jump in today and just talk about what that means for you, if anything. Again, do you feel any different? Have you noticed yet? We're going to jump into that. Congress, of course, missed the midnight deadline last night. Of course, the blame game is fierce. Everybody's pointing fingers from both sides. The president, of course, says it's the Democrats. Chuck Schumer, representing the Democrats, says it's the Republicans. Depending on who you're talking about, it's doomsday. The sky is falling. Others, like President Trump, says this is an opportunity. The president talked about how he can do some things now during a closed government that maybe he couldn't do otherwise because there are going to be some federal employees that are going to lose their jobs, and they're not going to be able to come back, and they're not going to be able to collect back pay. President said yesterday in cut number one, he can do some things right now that he hasn't been able to do before.
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They are shutting it down. We're not shutting it down. We don't want it to shut down because we have the greatest period of time ever. I told you we have 17 trillion dollars being invested. So the last person that wants to shut down is us. Now, with that being said, we can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible. that are bad for them and irreversible by them, like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like. And you all know Russell Vogt. He's become very popular recently because he can trim the budget to a level that you couldn't do any other way. So they're taking a risk by having a shutdown because of the shutdown, we can do things medically and other ways, including benefits. We can cut Large numbers of people. We don't want to do that, but we don't want fraud, waste and abuse. And, you know, we're cutting that. But they want to have illegal aliens come into our country and get massive health care at the cost to everybody else. And we don't have it. And that's that's I would say the number one reason that they want to strike is to get illegal immigrants health care. And, you know, Gavin Newsom wants that, too, in California. And it's destroying California. We can't have that. We're not going to let it happen.
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I have a feeling that the president is going to take full advantage for however long this lasts. And it could be a day. It could be two days. It could be a week. It could be a month. And just a little later, we're going to talk about shutdowns, sort of a history of previous shutdowns, how long they lasted and what effect they had on the economy. So how did we get here? Let's do a quick review. How did we get to today? House Republicans passed a continuing resolution about two weeks ago. Now, of course, the continuing resolution was a temporary fix to keep the government open. They wanted to keep the government open until November 21st. The continuing resolution was necessary because of the 12 funding bills that is required by Congress to fund the government, not a single one had been approved. Not one out of 12. So they needed the CR, and it's called a clean CR because nothing had been changed. They didn't add anything. They didn't take anything away. It was the bill that had been funding the government for the past year. But Senate Democrats, led by Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, blocked that bill. Because, as you heard the President say, they want to fund health care for illegals and some other things. They have some add-ons that they would like to see part of this continuing resolution. Schumer says that it's the GOP fault. In cut number six, Schumer lays the blame at the president's feet and the GOP.
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We see now Republicans are plunging America into a shutdown, rejecting bipartisan talks, pushing a partisan bill, and risking America's health care, worst of all. A few moments ago, Republicans once again rejected Democrats' proposals to avoid a shutdown, fix health care premiums, and spare Americans the calamity of skyrocketing through the roof health care costs.
SPEAKER 11 :
Risking America's health care. Who's he possibly talking about? It's not going to affect my health care. It's not going to affect your health care. What it is going to affect, though, is it's going to keep a lot of illegal immigrants from getting health care. The one big beautiful bill back in the spring cut that out. The Democrats hated it then. Now they want to get it back in. They see their chance to try to embarrass the Republicans and try to hold this shutdown over the Republicans to get health care for illegals.
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The race for New York City mayor took a surprising turn this week. The current mayor, Eric Adams, dropped out of the race. This twist left Mike in a tough position.
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Now, I want to tackle something that is real painful for me. It's painful because I treasure loyalty. I value loyalty. Years ago, when I started out in the syndication business, and we started out with a dozen radio stations in America, then we got to 50, then we got to 100. Now we're, I think, close to 400 radio stations around the country that carry the Mike Gallagher show. And radio stations would, as the radio business goes, would add us. Sometimes they'd drop us. And it always got to me when a station would drop me because it always felt like the harder I worked for the station, the more apt I was to get dumped. South Bend, Indiana comes to mind. I'll never forget that story. We were going to get canceled by the South Bend station. I said, look, don't cancel. They were going to put on some sports show or something. I said, we love being in South Bend. Let me come out and pay a visit to the market and try to save this station. And they were nice about it. They said, sure, come on out. And I came to South Bend. We had a party. And it was a bar run by, like a sports bar, a restaurant run by cops. And we just had an informal, like a pop-up visit. At that restaurant. Hundreds of people showed up. And the station changed their mind. And they hung in with me. And I was so happy. Moral of the story, they wound up dumping me anyway. It never mattered. No loyalty. There was no loyalty. And they were such nice people. Of course, they had bosses, too. I'll never forget that. Bob and Sally had a dinner at the general manager's house. I mean, they were all nice people. But they had a boss. And I suspect whoever the parent company was didn't like me. Okay. You know, people don't like me. I get it. But I always remember feeling burned because I was so loyal to them. We flew to South Bend. We did it all on our dime. It was our effort. We tried so hard, did commercials for them, did whatever they wanted. And they wound up dumping us anyhow. There is no loyalty anymore, and I treasure loyalty. So me... believing that my friend Curtis Sliwa should drop out of the mayor's race in New York City, rips me apart. Curtis is a force of nature. The founder of the Guardian Angels, survivor of an assassination attempt by the mob. There is no figure in America, in my view, that is as compelling and tough... and street smart, and loving. This guy's got a big heart. He and his wife, they've got an apartment full of cats and dogs. They rescue animals. But he's tough as nails. And in a perfect world, he'd be a great mayor for New York City. Statistically, he cannot win. Unless Andrew Cuomo drops out, I guess. Yes. It doesn't appear Cuomo's going anywhere. But over the weekend, Eric Adams made a big announcement. Here's his departing message. The current mayor of New York City, who was kicked out, you know, cast out of the Democrat club because he agreed with Trump largely on immigration and the deportation efforts underway, and they turned on him. Here he is announcing officially an end to his re-election campaign.
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It has been my honor to be your mayor. My story is your story. I lived the struggle, but I never stopped loving this city. That is why I ran for mayor, to turn my pain into purpose. And I will keep fighting for the city, no matter what, from City Hall or beyond, because I am a New Yorker, and fighting for our city is just what I do. Thank you. And God bless New York.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, God bless you, Eric Adams, because you did something really noble. Because you gave New Yorkers a fighting chance to avoid the communists. Because now it's down to the communists, Zoran Mamdani, Andrew Cuomo, and Curtis Lewa. Now, a lot of good people, people that I admire... A lot of good people. Sid Rosenberg, I was on a panel with him a couple weeks ago in New York. He's all in for Curtis. Dov Hyken, all in for Curtis. I'm all in for Curtis. Until you look at all of the polling and all the numbers and all the statistical reality of a liberal city like New York City, and you know Curtis likely cannot win. Under any scenario. I was looking at polling data this morning. That in a head-to-head race, if there's two people in the race, Zoran Mamdani and Andrew Cuomo, it's a dead heat. It's neck and neck. Not so much with Zoran the commie and our friend Curtis Lewa. Now, I want to talk about this on a personal note. I hate this so much because of how much I love Curtis Lewa. I feel like I'm absolutely abandoning my friend. I feel like I'm being disloyal, and I feel rotten about expressing this belief that Curtis needs to withdraw. There's always MyPillow Christmas gifts under the tree in anything Gallagher family related. You've helped MyPillow and their employees in these tough times. Mike knows it, and he always wants to give back with deals on his most popular products. The MyPillow six-piece bath towel sets are back in stock. Now, this is a proprietary technology that makes the towels amazingly absorbent. I first heard about the towels from Peg and Joey. They said, you can't believe it. These towels actually work. Now, they're regularly $69.98, two bath towels, two hand towels, two washcloths, $69.98, but for a limited time. When you enter the promo code MikeG at the Mike Gallagher Specials Square, just $39.98. A six-piece towel set that you will just be amazed at the absorbency. So go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. Click on that box, and with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG for this special offer and many, many more. The towels, the sheets, the pillows, the doggy beds, the slippers. Oh, boy, the slippers. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034, like we love to sing. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com.
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This is the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. I'm Eric Hansen. We are all familiar with a particular condition afflicting leftists known as Trump derangement syndrome. Well, Rosie O'Donnell says even her therapist recognizes that she may have a problem.
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Because to me, Nicole Wallace's response is even more glorious than Rosie's rant. Rosie is gone. I mean, she's unhinged. She's completely unmoored. She's off the rails. She moved to Ireland to escape the Trump presidency. And then, of course, every day she's popping up on some podcast or gives some interview railing against Trump and Republicans. So, look, she's a lost cause. But Nicole Wallace is still here, at least as of now. Listen to how she agrees with Rosie over her experience with her own therapist.
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And if he's not stopped now, we have lost our country. And I don't know, Nicole, how it is that some people cannot see it. My therapist said, why are you so upset? And I said to her, why are you not?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. Yeah, I have that conversation, too, because the gaslighting that I think you're alluding to, if you're a thoughtful, informed person, you do stop and say, well, maybe it is me.
SPEAKER 13 :
She's admitting, I've had that experience too. Oh, have you talked to your therapist too, Nicole? About how deranged you are? Trump's going to kill seniors? When the Medicaid cuts come? First of all, Rosie's got Medicaid, I think mixed up with Medicare. But, I mean, poor Rosie. Poor Rosie. 800-655-MIKE. Here's Frank in New Jersey. Welcome back, Frank. How's it going?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Mike. Hey. I love your show, and I love the idea of draining the swamp, too. But this idea of taking machete and just eliminating thousands of positions scares me a little bit. I think it's got to be more targeted. Because if it's done in kind of like a sweeping way, it worries me that it, I don't know, like it can seem like mean-spirited and actually affect the midterms. And I worry, you know, and I just want to be sure like we don't burn bridges. Before the next election.
SPEAKER 13 :
Look, you sound like a really great guy. The days of navel-gazing and kind of a little worried about unconventional ways of doing things, that's out the window, Frank. This guy doesn't get two rips about decorum. Trump doesn't care about doing business as usual. Because what you're saying is, and I'm not saying this to pick on you, you're suggesting you'd prefer it was more business as usual. Days of business as usual are gone.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gone. Gone. I don't think business as usual definitely eliminate positions. I was happy when I heard the Department of Education was being eliminated because I think that's corrupt to the core. You bet. And I also believe we've got to get into the FBI, the stuff we found out. You bet.
SPEAKER 13 :
But, Frank, you said you want it more targeted. This is targeting the swamp. The federal government, they are the swamp. Right? Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's true, but there must be some people that are doing a good job.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, sure, and I hate it for them. I really do. But look, there's no—this happens all the time. Companies face layoffs. Companies face budget cuts. Countries should face budget cuts. Countries should have to face, you know, a repositioning or a restructuring, an adjustment. And this is what Trump is doing. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hillary Clinton appeared on MSNBC this week and proved once again that she is utterly tone deaf and the worst kind of bigot.
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I got to get to this real quick. The day has just been so busy. You'd think that after all these years that Hillary Clinton might have been able to read the room. She would have learned that talent of reading the room. Last week on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Hillary delivered one of the most divisive and tone-deaf comments I've ever heard her mention. And especially at a time when the country is grieving still, mourning the loss of the assassination of my colleague, Charlie Kirk, whose faith was an important part of his life. His patriotism was an important part of his life as well. When Hillary talked about certain men, I want you to listen to this. Here's Hillary.
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The idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, you know, let's say it, white men of a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point of view, a certain ideology. It's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for. And we were on the path toward that. I mean, imperfectly, lots of, you know, bumps along the way. But I agree with you. We were on the right trajectory.
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Yeah, there were a lot of bumps there, Hillary, a lot of bumps on the way. And the American people last November resoundingly said, we don't want to be on this path. It's the wrong path. But think about this for a minute. Let's just pause here and think about what she said. White men of a certain religion. We all know who she's referring to. She's referring to people like me, many of you. And again, at a moment when we need to be talking about unity, at a moment when we're mourning the death of one of the most prominent Christian conservative voices in our time, and she decides to fan the flames. She wants to divide people, suggesting that white Christian men, and that's what she's talking about, white Christian men are somehow damaging our country. The backlash came pretty quickly. Social media responded. One person wrote, Two weeks after Charlie Kirk is assassinated, Hillary Clinton reminds everyone that white Christian men are dangerous. These people have no intention of turning down the temperature. No, they're not. They don't want unity. They don't want Republicans and Democrats to work together for the betterment of our country. They like the division. That's why Chuck Schumer has us in a shutdown right now. Another wrote, this constant drumbeat against white Christian men is dehumanizing and dangerous. And they're right. This kind of rhetoric from Hillary and anybody else is reckless anytime, but particularly right now. when you have probably some troubled young man out there thinking about how the assassin was able to take Charlie Kirk out and how there's some white Christian man he'd like to do the same to. And Hillary seems to be encouraging him to do so. It's hypocritical. And it's just downright dangerous for Hillary and others to talk like this, to have that perspective. That Christian white men is the problem of our country? Christian white men were the foundation of our country, our founding fathers. And let's be honest, Hillary, she has a long history of this, let's just call it elitist contempt. Remember the basket of deplorables comment that she made? Now, years later, she's painting millions of Americans, hardworking fathers, veterans, churchgoers, small business owners, as somehow the villains in her worldview. That's why Hillary Clinton never made it to the Oval Office. And I don't know why these networks keep putting her on. That's the reason Hillary Clinton should not have even been on MSNBC. Surely they have standards, too, right?
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And finally, if you've ever been uncomfortable in your hotel room, Mike has some advice for you.
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Today is one of those days. I mean, I didn't even get to the story of the Ohio Republican who's introducing a new bill that would allow the utility companies to control your thermostat. Uh-uh. Hell no. Pardon my French. Can you imagine the power company getting to turn your thermostat up and down as a Republican? Golly. And I'm sure I saw the story. We won't have time to get to it today. But I did catch how the caveat is, well, you get to opt into it. Oh, yeah, great. Great idea, Ohio congressman, whoever you are, Ohio Republican, knock it off. Government's got enough control of our lives. We don't need the government to say, oh, it's a little hot out today, so we're going to make sure your thermostat goes to 79 degrees. Are you crazy? I always hate it when I go to a hotel somewhere and the hotel thermostat, all this green crap they do, all this green deal garbage they do. They've got these sensors in the thermostat where if there's no movement, then the AC goes out. Well, guess what? When you go to bed, you're not walking around in the room, so the AC goes out because it's not detecting any movement. So it's 80 degrees and you're sitting there in a pile of sweat because the AC got shut down because you're not moving. What do I got to do? Like home alone with the kid with the fake people that he put in the window spinning around? What should I do? Take a blanket and hang it from the ceiling fan so that it's spinning around and it keeps the AC going? Incidentally, do you know there's a hack for AC units in hotels? And you can bring it down to as cold as you want it to go. And if you Google it, you can find it online. It's a secret hack. I probably shouldn't talk about it because the hotels are going to get wise. And then they're going to try to counter the hack. You push like fan and up and down, the up and down arrow and then another button. Because they have a lock on the AC on most thermostats where you can't take it below like sometimes it's usually 65. But sometimes it's 68. I like it at 62 degrees. It's a meat locker when I sleep. But a lot of hotels, well, now I found the hack. And every hotel I go to now, it works on almost every thermostat. Look it up. It's on YouTube. It's the AC Hotel Hack. And you do a little code, and it puts it into VIP mode, and you can lower it to as cold as you want it to be. You can take it down to 58 degrees if you want. You see? See what you get when you tune into The Mike Gallagher Show? Helpful hints to hack the hotel AC.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that wraps up The Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast for Friday, October 3rd, 2025. Be sure to subscribe to all the podcasts and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you like the show, be sure to share it with a friend. I'm Eric Hansen. We'll see you back here next week on The Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast.

Join Rick Hughes in this episode of The Flatline as he delves into the concept of spiritual autonomy. Learn about the vital importance of being able to stand alone in your faith, free from manipulation and influence. Discover how biblical principles can guide you in making independent decisions that reflect your faith and personal conviction, highlighting the significance of having a stable mental attitude rooted in spirituality.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and every Sunday morning, same time, same place, we come to you by this local radio station. Thank you for giving me a few minutes of your time. I promise not to manipulate you. I promise not to beg you for any money. I'm not going to try to sell you something. I just want to give you some information. Hopefully, that information will help you verify and identify God's plan for your life. If you're able to do that and you would like to orient and adjust to the plan, then you have the freedom, you have the privacy to do that. It's your life, your decisions, and you are responsible for every decision that you make. And remember, bad decisions limit future options. If you make enough bad decisions, you're not going to have any options left. And that means you have to stay off of the my way highway path. So please listen to the things that we have to say today. Let me encourage you to check out our podcast, The Flotline. The Flotline is on Apple iPod or Spotify. Just type that in the search engine and you can find podcasts, The Flotline, and listen 24-7, anywhere, anytime, any day. That's The Flotline Podcasting. And we also have printed material available free of charge, unlike podcasts. A lot of ministries that charge for their material, we don't. We believe if God's in it, God will pay for it. Obviously, we depend on unsolicited contributions, but he's always paid for it. He's never failed us yet, and he never will fail us because he promised if he was in it, he would meet the needs. So our books on Crash Course in Christianity, Christian Problem Solving, The Life's Toughest Years for Young People. We've got several books. If you go to our website, simply rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org, you can find them, and they're all free of charge. Just give them an order, and we'll ship them out to you. Today, if you'll let me, there's something important that I want to talk about. I want to talk about standing independently on your own, being able to stand alone. I call it having spiritual autonomy if you are a Christian. If you've believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and you've made the single most significant decision any person could ever make, then you are told in the Bible that you are to be autonomous, to have some spiritual autonomy. It means that you have to have the ability to act independently of your own, to govern yourself and not let somebody else run your life for you. Now, there's no shortage of people that would love to run your life for you if you'll let them. I've been around those type and you have too. And they mean well, most of them mean well, but they'll tell you where to go and where to stay and what to say and what to do. And they're trying to help you, but they're really going to take your life over and run it if you let them. And those people you have to be very kind and gracious to, but decline their suggestions gracefully and move on down the road. But being spiritually autonomous is a key to growing up spiritually in the spiritual life and understanding your destiny in Christ. You can never have spiritual autonomy unless you're able to be filled with the Holy Spirit. to learn the word of God and to use the faith thrust drill. Those are all situations on the flat line of your soul. Remember, the flat line is made up of 10 problem-solving devices that stop the outside sources of adversity before they become the inside source of stress. We have a bookmark on that, the flat line of those 10 problem-solving devices. We'll be glad to send it to you. Stick it in your Bible and you can look at them occasionally, but they include rebound, which is solve the problem of sin, the filling of the Holy Spirit, which solves the problem of your genetically formed old sin nature, the faith rest drill, which solves the problem of impossible situations, grace orientation, biblical orientation, having a personal sense of destiny, having personal love for God, which is the greatest virtue you could ever possess, having impersonal love for others, which is you using God's love in your life towards other people, and sharing god's happiness and being occupied with christ those are 10 unique problem solving devices and perhaps we need to go back and teach all 10 of them again because we could spend hours in each one but if you don't have that bookmark with the 10 problem solving devices write to us we'll ship it right on out to you and the book we have christian problem solving book all 10 of them are listed from various radio shows we have the transcripts printed and binded and put in a book We'll be glad to send it to you at no charge. So let's get on now. Spiritual autonomy means you have enough Bible doctrine in your soul to make your own decisions without being impetuous, without being goofy, without doing something stupid. And it's easy to do if you get impetuous. But you have to be able to stand on your own two feet as a believer and act independently. And at certain times of our life, we all have to learn to do that. I mean, we have to. By this, I simply mean that you must prepare yourself for the testing that's coming and for the difficulty that you may face in your life without having to depend on someone else to give you answers, without having to depend on someone else for your happiness, without having to depend on someone else for your comfort. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have people help you in medical situations. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about when you face testing that you will go through, and we'll talk about that shortly. testing that you will face in your life, difficulties that you'll face in your life. You have to be able to handle it on your own without running to someone else and asking them, what should I do? What do I do about this brother? What do I do about this preacher? That doesn't glorify God if you're not able to handle it on your own and come up with your own answers. That's what the whole thing about learning and growing in grace is about so that you can handle your own problems. In Psalm 23, four, the Psalmist wrote these words, Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me, your rod and your staff, they comfort me. Now, yea, though I, he didn't say yea, though we, he said yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I, not we, I will fear no evil. This is living through death's shadowed valley. And this is the individual that has to do it alone. That's the one thing you'll always have to remember. When you come to time to go to the home office, when it comes your time to be transferred to heaven, you will do it alone. You won't have anybody go with you and hold your hand. You'll have to do that alone. And so there is where spiritual autonomy is critical. In Matthew 4, 1 through 11, you can read about where our Lord Jesus Christ faced tremendous evidence testing from Satan. This was even after he had fasted for 40 days and 40 nights and was in a very weakened physical condition. He did this alone, without any supporters cheering him on, without asking someone to pray for him or tell him what he should do. As an independent human being, he did it alone. I know this is God, and I know this is man, undiminished deity, true humanity in one form forever. As God, he could have just banished Satan away, but as man, he handled it just like you or I would. He didn't ever use his deity. Let me restate that. He never used his deity to solve any human problems. He solved them the same way you and I solved them. Yes, he was God, but yes, he was man. He's hypostatic union, God-man together. And so alone, he faced Satan, he faced evidence testing, and he had enough autonomy to act independently of what others said, and he passed that test. In 1 Samuel 17, if you read that chapter, you read about young David, how David faced incredible odds when he challenged Goliath, the champion of the Philistines, on the battlefield. And he challenged them alone. He walked out there alone. He was mocked at and made fun of by brothers and laughed at by the Philistines when he walked out with a slingshot to face the giant, but he had enough faith to overcome those odds. He lived it and he died alone, just like you and I will die alone. He acted alone, independently of what others thought, independently of what others said. So David was a champion because he had autonomy. He had the ability to govern himself and not be controlled by fear and not be manipulated by public opinion of popularity. Let me give you some principles on spiritual autonomy. Spiritual autonomy is critical for every one of us. Why? Because we must all be able to govern our own lives as believers and not be manipulated, not be coerced by some organized religion or some legalistic believers that tell you you're going to go to hell if you smoke. You're going to go to hell if you drink. You're going to go to hell if you dance. That's not true. That's not in the Bible. And that's what legalistic people will try to do. They will try to manipulate you if you don't have the ability to stand autonomously on your own. to act independently on your own, to govern yourself and not care how these people judge you. Organized religion is the same way. It'll tell you if you want to go to heaven, you got to do this, you got to do that. And that's not true either. The Bible says if you want to go to heaven, it's simply one thing. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved. John 3.16 said, God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus said, this is the will of the one that sent me that you believe in me whom he have sent. That's why it says in the Bible, we've been unbelievers and we become believers. We believe that he is the anointed son of God. We believe he is the savior of the world. And we accept that by faith. And we acknowledge that through prayer, telling God the father, we're willing to accept Christ as our savior. Spiritual autonomy is critical. This type of autonomy that I'm talking about is nothing but a mental attitude. It's just a mental attitude which is you having orientation to reality in your life, having orientation to authority in your life, having orientation to freedom, while at the same time you reject those things that would destroy your spiritual life, such as fear, worry, anxiety, bitterness, things like that. You don't have to live that way. That's not the Christian life. So, point three, mental stability is a key to autonomy. Mental stability is a key issue in the spiritual life. Spirituality is a mental attitude produced by the filling of the Holy Spirit. Spirituality is a mental attitude produced by the filling of the Holy Spirit. Here's what I want you to listen. Billy Graham, the great evangelist, could not be any more spiritual than you. He could be more mature than you, but not more spiritual. If he's filled with the Holy Spirit, you are filled with the Holy Spirit, then you're both spiritual. So spirituality is a mental attitude produced by the filling of the Holy Spirit. And the Bible tells us in Galatians 5.22 what that mental attitude is, and it's nothing more than the mindset of the Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated in the Scriptures. And that's what mental stability is. And what I'm talking about is you having that mental stability, having the mindset of Christ, and being able to act independently on your own, govern your own life, make your own decisions, stand by those things. So your mental stability, point four, is the ability to thank the Word of God and To think divine viewpoint, even under pressure, and I call that courage, it's you having the ability to make correct and accurate application of those things that you've learned in the Word of God when you face testing in your life. It's you having the ability to make correct and accurate application of those things you've learned from the Word of God when you go through testing in your life. And that testing can be momentum testing. You're always gonna face momentum testing before you get to spiritual maturity. You're going to go through momentum testing. This is what the Bible says, put on the armor of God so you can stand against the strategy of the devil. He's going to test your momentum. He's going to try to deter you from ever becoming a spiritual Christian. If he can get you preoccupied with your environment, if he can get you preoccupied with your situation, if he can get you preoccupied with your neighbor, then you will never advance spiritually because you're not using the word of God in your life to make the right decisions. You have to make correct application of the word of God. So spiritual autonomy that I'm talking about is nothing more than a perpetuated stability of a mental attitude in your life. It's a perpetuated mental stability in your life. where you don't vacillate. You're not up today, down tomorrow, in and out. You are the same today and tomorrow and the next day. You have that rock solid mental stability. You have the ability to govern yourself. You have the ability to act independently, not needing someone else to make you happy. That's a wonderful way to live and that's part of the spiritual life that comes from the filling of the Holy Spirit. So don't forget, autonomy means the state of being independent or the ability to direct your own life. And you cannot fully do that until you have use of the word of God and you've learned what virtue love is. Virtue love comes in two packages, personal love for God, impersonal love for others. Your motivation to live the spiritual life is your personal love for God. 1 John 5, 3 says, if you love me, you will obey me and my mandates are not hard. And so that's where it starts, having that personal love for God. And you cannot live the Christian life without that virtue love. The Bible says we love him because he first loved us. And that's what it means. The Bible also goes on to say if we say we love God and hate our neighbor, we're a liar and the truth is not in us. So virtue love is a tremendous problem-solving device because it gives you the ability in impersonal love to love the unlovable person. Impersonal love gives you the ability to love the unlovable person. Oh, by the way, do you remember God saving you? Did he not use impersonal love? God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. He didn't love you with personal love. You weren't even a member of the family. He loved you with impersonal love. He loved you based on his character, not your character. It was grace in action to you, for by grace are you saved through faith. The gift of God was his anointed son, our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, and he gave that gift to you. Once you believed in Christ, once you entered into the royal family of God, then there's personal love for you because now you're his child. So remember that. You cannot fully be autonomous until you understand virtue love. Have personal love for God, impersonal love for others, and these are two of the problem-solving devices, number seven, number eight. You should get the book, Christian Problem-Solving, and read and study that. So, point seven, spiritual autonomy is grace orientation to life. There's problem-solving device number four. Spiritual autonomy is grace orientation to life. You live by grace. You die by grace. You're saved by grace. You grace other people out. What a wonderful way to live. What a wonderful way to operate a ministry by grace. People say, you don't charge for your book, brother. No, I don't. Someone asked me the other day what I charge to come speak. Nothing, nothing. There's no appearance fee. We operate on grace. I was reading where some famous celebrities the other day I read about were going to speak at some Christian organizations and Christian churches and Christian gatherings, and they had an appearance fee of $10,000 to $20,000 to come and give their testimony and talk about how they love the Lord Jesus Christ. We don't do that. That's not right. You don't do that. You live by grace. You don't ask for money. You don't solicit money. You don't take up love offerings if you're in the ministry. You just go do your job, keep your mouth shut, and let the Lord handle the finances if you need them. So spiritual autonomy is grace, orientation to life, and that's just one area. Money's one area. There are a lot of other areas you can go into as well. So point eight, under the protocol plan of God for the church, Grace, God's grace, is everything that God is free to do for every one of us from the moment we get saved all the way through the eternal state. And apart from anything we could do, apart from any human merit, apart from any human ability, any system of human planning or any behavior or any talent, that's not grace. That's works. Grace is all that God is free to do for you. And there are many, many ways in which people use their own human abilities to try to solve their problems. But grace orientation, the person who's grace oriented, That problem solving is spiritual autonomy. And you don't take any recognition or cognizance of whatever human abilities you have. You depend on the Lord. You know, you hear people say, let me do it my way. I'll get this solved. I can work it out. Let me think about it. God, just turn it over to the Lord and let him handle it. It doesn't mean you don't have to make good decisions. You make good decisions based on what the Bible says. But you don't attack a problem and try to solve it yourself. Human abilities is not the solution. Human solutions are no solutions. Divine solutions are the only solutions. So there can be no spiritual autonomy unless you and I, unless we have spiritual growth, unless we're building that flat line in our soul. And that's what this show is about, getting you to build a flat line in your soul. I'm looking for those of you that want to grow to spiritual maturity. I'm looking for those of you that want to be spiritually autonomous, that want to have the ability to stand alone, that want to have the ability to act independently of others and make your own decisions and glorify Jesus Christ to the maximum. Now, what about these tests I'm talking about? Well, how about system testing? System testing. I speak at a lot of schools, and a lot of schools have faculty, and faculty sometimes are required to do things they don't want to do. System testing. For example, if you've been teaching all day and have a big basketball game and the principal or the headmaster says, we want you there tonight to support the team and you don't want to go and you get mad or angry about it. System testing is simply the maintenance of poise and professionalism when you're treated unjust. The maintenance of poise and professionalism when you're treated unjust. It's the perpetuation of high standards of workmanship during unfair treatment. And you can only do that if you can act independently of others and govern your own emotions in your own life by being spiritually autonomous. Here's another one for you. Thought testing. Fear, worry, this is the ability of humility as a virtue to avoid any type of self-pity. To get away from that, stay away from that. Don't feel sorry for yourself. When you get into this thinking testing, thought testing, and you have the ability to feel sorry for yourself, that's not humility, that's arrogance. You're looking at yourself as something you're not. So you have to get away from that. This gives you the ability to never feel threatened in any form of bullying, never feel threatened by unjust or unfair treatment, to be treated obviously unfairly, and yet at the same time, not to get mad, not to be hated, not to have self-pity. It's a fantastic way to live, being spiritually autonomous. And then there's disaster testing, and you better learn about this one because it's coming to America. You can fulfill the principles that Job uttered in Job 121. The Lord gives and the Lord takes away. Blessed be the name of the Lord. Also, if you want to read more, read Job 2, verses 9 and 10. And in Job 13, 15, he said, though he slay me, yet will I trust in him. That's grace. So disaster testing is coming for this nation. You can see it in the headlines. You can hear the train whistle blowing. And you have to have enough of the word of God to act independently and stand on your own. When you reach spiritual autonomy in your life, you will be the most normal person around. Because you will have passed a milestone that excludes the abnormal, that excludes the neurotic, excludes the psychotic and the psychopathic, and you will advance to spiritual maturity by being autonomously on your own, acting independently on your own from the filling of the Holy Spirit and from the Word of God resident in your soul. So that means that if you're spiritually autonomous, you have control of your life. You have control of your life. You don't depend on someone else to run it for you. Spiritual autonomy includes personal control of your own life while refraining and restraining yourself from trying to control someone else's life. You cannot control other people and at the same time control your own life. It's not your job. You have to watch some people fail. You have to watch some people make a mess out of it. They just won't listen. That's okay. Maybe they didn't ask you to start with. You just butted into their life and said, if I was you, brother, I think I'd do it this way. Well, who asked you to start with? Under spiritual autonomy, you have to learn to stop interfering in the lives of other people. You restrain those tendencies towards being possessive because if you're autonomous and you're freed from these arrogant functions in your life and you will recognize that other people have the right of self-determination, The more you stop interfering in the lives of other people, the sooner you have personal control of your own life. So what are some of the keys to being spiritually autonomous? If you read Psalm 119, you can get a lot of them. It's an amazing chapter in the Bible. It's the longest chapter in the Bible, and it teaches the importance of God's Word and our submission to the authority of the Word of God, which results in happiness and fulfillment. Listen as I read a few of those verses to you in Psalm 119, verse 1 and 2. Blessed are the undefiled in the way who walk in the law of the Lord. Undefiled means that you're filled with the Holy Spirit, free from personal sin. You've rebounded. You've gotten in fellowship, and you're walking in the way of the Lord, and you're obeying. That means obedience. Verse two, blessed are those who keep, keep, that's your positive volition, not negative volition, obey, keep his testimonies. And blessed are those who seek him with their whole heart. Seek, blessed means happiness. So happiness to the undefiled people. Happiness belongs to those who walk in the law of the Lord. Happiness belongs to those who keep his testimonies and who seek him with their whole heart. Is that you? I hope it is. That's the only way you're ever gonna find happiness. In Psalm 119, verse 11, here is the key to having spiritual autonomy. Your word I have hidden in my heart so that I might not sin against you. That means to learn it and apply it in your life. The word of God. And you're not going to do that unless you sit under a well-qualified pastor that can teach it to you. Unless you go to church, open your Bible, take a notebook and write some notes and remember it and go home and read over your notes and apply it into your life. And I've said before, if the song service is longer than the teaching, you're in the wrong church. Find a church where the word of God is taught and honored. So the Bible goes on to say in Psalm 119 verse 27, make me understand the ways of your precepts and then I will meditate on your wonderful work. In Psalm 119 29, remove from me my lies and grant me your law graciously. Beginning in verse 33, teach me. Verse 34, give me understanding. Verse 35, direct me in your mandates. Verse 36, incline my heart to your testimonies. Verse 37, turn away my eyes from beholding vanity. Verse 38, establish your word in me. Verse 71, it's good for me that I've been afflicted. That means suffering, so that I might learn your word. And then in verse 105, your word is a lamp unto my path and I will keep it. What we gain from these verses is this. Great joy and great blessing in life by maintaining a healthy relationship with God and obeying his mandates. Much more joy, much more happiness than you can even imagine. Because in spiritual autonomy and actuality, you're never alone. God the Holy Spirit indwells you. God's word strengthens you in times of conflict and in times of confusion. He will never forsake you. He said, I will never leave you. I will never forsake you. There's more for me to say about this, but I just don't have the time. Sometimes I cram it all in. I have a mere 27 minutes and 15 seconds to tell you these things. I hope it's encouraging. I hope you're learning. If you want to learn more, get in touch with us. Come back next Sunday, same time, same place. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.

In this episode, we dive into the political tumult of the current government shutdown. Joey Hudson, sitting in for Mike Gallagher, explores the pervasive blame game in Washington, D.C., focusing on who is truly responsible for the recent halt in governmental operations. Listen in as he unpacks the contentious debate over Obamacare and the claims surrounding healthcare provisions for illegal immigrants. With insights from key political figures like Speaker Johnson and George Stephanopoulos, we bring you an intricate discussion filled with political opinions and conjectures.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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Welcome in to today's show. Glad to have you spend a few minutes of your day with me as I sit in for Mike. Mike will return on Monday. So we're in day two of the shutdown. Has it affected you yet? Have you noticed? We're going to jump into some of the details that we've learned over the past 24 hours. Also coming up in today's show. We're going to talk about a new story that really has you scratching your head even more so on who was actually in charge during the Joe Biden years in the White House. Fox News is reporting on a story where they have received some palm cards. These are basically hand-sized cue cards that were used by then-President Joe Biden when he would be meeting with people. Supposedly, these cards would have the person's name. their bio, if they had served in government before, and a photo so that he was not to get them confused with others. Some of the cards that they have been able to recover were for people like Senator Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton. Now, wouldn't you think that Joe Biden would at least know who Hillary Clinton is? Would at least know who Chuckie Schumer is? It's very scary to read this story, folks. We're going to talk about that some, too. And also in today's show, the old saying that the rich get richer. Elon Musk is proving that to be true. Listen to some of the numbers now. In just 2020, just five years ago, Elon Musk's net worth was $24.5 billion, this according to Forbes. As of yesterday at 3.30 Eastern Time, his net worth exceeded $500 billion. Wow. What would you do with a billion of that $500? Surely, Elon could spare a billion, wouldn't you think? So we've got a lot to cover today. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. I hope you will. You can send me a quick note on the My Fellow message line as well, 800-655-6453. Better yet, email me directly, joey at joeyhudson.com. I love to get your emails. Many of you emailed me yesterday. Keep those notes coming because you're a very important part of this show. So day two. First off, did you sleep okay last night? Did you worry about what may not be around today? The finger-pointing game that Washington often plays is at breakneck speed. A lot of fingers being pointed of whose fault this is. So let's kind of drill down a bit. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, for some reason, I never know why these guys go on with people like George Stephanopoulos to begin with, but he chose to go on ABC's Good Morning America to talk about the shutdown with George Stephanopoulos. Stephanopoulos came out swinging, accusing Republicans of shutting down the government. It's all the Republicans' fault because they don't want to offer the extension of the Obamacare benefits, the tax credits. Now, Speaker Johnson fired back. In cut number four, he called that absurd and said that Democrats are trying to use the shutdown to sneak in free health care for illegal immigrants. Here's the exchange.
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The Democratic proposal is designed to prevent millions of Americans from losing their health insurance, losing Medicaid coverage, or paying higher health care premiums. Why are you against that?
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That's an absurd statement, what you said there. Let's be clear about what happened last night, George. No, George, let me tell you what happened last night. Everybody can go and review the facts for themselves. 44 Senate Democrats voted to reject a clean, nonpartisan, continuing funding resolution to keep the United States government open. The Democrats said instead that they wanted to give health care to illegal aliens instead of keeping critical services provided for the American citizens. That's what happened, plain and simple. Every Democrat in the House, except one, voted against the clean, continuing resolution. It was nonpartisan in nature. There are no policy writers on it that Republicans favor. And it's exactly what Chuck Schumer and other Democrats voted for in March. But they've changed their tune. They changed their tune because Chuck Schumer is having political problems right now. That's just a simple fact. And everybody knows that he's trying to outrun the far left portion of his base. So he's decided to inflict pain on the American people.
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Here are the facts. The proposal does not provide health care for illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants cannot buy health care under the Affordable Care Act. They cannot receive health care subsidies. Illegal immigrants are ineligible for Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children's Health Program. The Democratic bill does not make them eligible.
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Now, this is sort of a, all right, he said, she said type thing. As you heard, Stephanopoulos pushing back on what the Speaker of the House is saying. saying that's not true, illegal immigrants can't get Obamacare or Medicaid. But Speaker Johnson said, hang on, Democrats' proposal would roll back provisions that Republicans passed earlier this year in President Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill. We all know what was in the One Big Beautiful Bill when it comes to Obamacare health care services to illegal immigrants. That law, the Speaker pointed out, cleaned up the Medicaid rolls. There was a lot of criticism when that was happening, remember? So here's the deal. Democrats say that they just want to extend the Obamacare subsidies for working Americans. Republicans say Democrats are using that as a Trojan horse. Well, Vice President J.D. Vance kind of cleared things up later, referencing the conversation between the speaker and George Stephanopoulos. His quote was, Trump's bill shut off that spigot, and Democrats want to turn it back on. Here's the vice president giving his version of the story.
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Well, Mr. Vice President, one of the lies that continues to be told is that they're not giving funding to illegals health care. Can you explain to our audience why that's not true?
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Yeah, so this is a Democrat talking point. They say we're not actually trying to give health care benefits to illegal aliens. And here's why it's not true. There are two Biden era programs that explicitly gave the taxpayer health care money to illegal aliens that we turned off when President Trump took over in January. Program number one is there's a lot of emergency health care at hospitals that are provided to illegal aliens. That was funded by the federal government. We turned off that funding because, of course, we want American citizens to benefit from those hospital services, not to be taxed, and then to have those hospital services go to illegal aliens. The second of which is the Biden administration gave mass parole to millions upon millions of illegal aliens, and then they simultaneously made those parolees illegal. eligible for healthcare benefits funded by taxpayers. In the one big beautiful bill, President Trump and congressional Republicans turned off that money to healthcare funding for illegal aliens. The Democrats want to turn it back on. And in their initial proposal, the first thing that they put out to reopen the government, they actually turned that money for healthcare benefits for illegal aliens back on. So it's not something that we made up. It's not a talking point. It is in the text of the bill that they initially gave to us to reopen the government. It's preposterous for them to run away from it now. But look, let's set that all to the side. Let's open up the government. Let's negotiate on all these health care policy issues. Obviously, we're not going to support health care benefits for illegal aliens, but we will work with them to lower health care costs for American citizens if they're willing to do so.
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Okay, so you tell me. We have Speaker Johnson saying... Nope, we're not going to do health care for illegals, and yes, that's what the Democrats are trying to do. We have the Vice President of the United States, J.D. Vance, backing up the Speaker, saying yes, that's exactly what the Democrats want to do if we extend the Obamacare provisions that they're wanting to extend. George Stephanopoulos saying that both of them are wrong. You tell me, who are you going to believe? George Stephanopoulos? Speaker Johnson? or the Vice President, J.D. Vance. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. Hope you will. You can email me directly, joey, at joeyhudson.com. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike today.
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One of the things that Republicans are also doing, and they're doing in the White House press briefing, it's a running sound of Democrats talking about shutdowns in the past, including sound of you. This is the type of thing you've said about shutdowns in the past. Let's listen.
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What if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm going to shut the government down, I'm going to not pay our bills unless I get my way? It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis. Shutting down government over a policy difference is self-defeating. We can never hold American workers hostage again. While the CR bill is very bad, The potential for a shutdown has consequences for America that are much, much worse. Therefore, I will vote to keep the government open and not shut it down. That was you three times in the past.
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Go ahead.
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What's it? Yeah, that was in March, John, before they had done these horrible things to health care, before they had introduced these rescissions, which would allow them to ignore the budget process. And the bottom line is when I was majority leader, we had 13 times to vote on a budget. Do you know why there was no shutdown? We sat and negotiated with the Republicans every time. They got some things. We got some things. They did not negotiate at all. They refused, despite repeated entreaties by Hakeem and me, to go to the White House to sit down with Thune and Johnson.
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Don't you just love it? Oh, well, that was then. Now it's different. I mean, he was pretty convincing, wasn't he? That shutdowns are bad. We all know they are. But suddenly it's okay. It's okay because he's not majority leader anymore, and he can't just get his way. Don't you just love the hypocrisy of people like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and all the Democrat leaders? But it gets even better. During the 2020 primary, Charlie Hurt, this is cut number six, asked which of the candidates supported giving free health care to illegal immigrants here. Here's Charlie Hurt.
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Let's remember back in the 2020 primary, in the Democrat primary for 2020, all the Democrats running, there were about a dozen of them on stage, were asked which ones of them supported giving free health care to illegal aliens paid for by legal taxpayers. 100% of them, every single one of them raised their hands. So I don't even know why they're pretending to refute this and to claim that this isn't what they're doing, because this is exactly what they promised their voters, their Democrat voters, that they would do. This is what they are totally committed to.
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Now, that was Charlie Hurt reminding us what they had done in the 2020 primary. We dug deep in the archive, cut number seven. We actually have some video of the Democrats doing that.
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Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.
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For the record, if you're not watching this on the Salem News Channel, every single candidate raised their hand. That's the hypocrisy that we're dealing with, folks. That's the Democrat Party of today. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike today.
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He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent. And I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. I am sorry, Erica. But now Erica can talk to me and the whole group, and maybe they can convince me that that's not right, but I can't stand my opponent.
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In the relieffactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Joey Hudson in for Mike today. Let me invite you to watch us on the Salem News Channel. You can watch it on all the popular streaming services. Love to have you. You can also, of course, listen on the Salem Radio Network. You can also join the conversation by calling 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453 is also the MyPillow text line. Your texts are welcome. Email me directly, joey, at joeyhudson.com. Let's go straight back to the phones where Ray is waiting patiently in Pittsburgh. Welcome, Ray. You're on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Hi, Joey. Welcome. Thank you. I was listening to your commentary a bit ago, and I think you referred to Kamala as Cacklepuss. Yes.
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Well, yeah, that's what a texter calls her, yes.
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Oh, okay. I think I have a really cute name that describes her stupid simplicity even better.
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Okay.
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And just simply call her Giggles.
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Giggles. Yep. That she is... She is giggles. That's a great description of her. I mean, have you ever known of someone who – and it's scary still to think that she was literally a heartbeat away from the presidency – to just be so silly?
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Oh, my God. I was scared to death for the elections. I think we have CNN to thank for having Donald Trump as the president because they – Biden felt comfortable to go on to their show, and so we've got to commend them for doing that. If that hadn't have happened, Giggles probably wouldn't have even been in the race.
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Appreciate your phone call, Ray. And look, what I'm thankful for on this thankful Thursday, if you're just joining us, I explained earlier, on Thursdays quite often on my local show, heard on 98.9 WORD in the upstate of South Carolina, Western North Carolina. We use Thursdays to talk about what we're thankful for, and I've had many of you this morning text me and email me. And let me invite you to join that conversation, what you're thankful for. And I'm so thankful for Donald Trump. I'm thankful that the American people came to their senses. It's just really scary to think about Kamala Harris being in the Oval Office. It's scary to think about the fact she was vice president, knowing the condition that we now know that Joe Biden was in. Texter says it's hard to fault Joe Biden for using cue cards. After all, most people won't forget who Hillary Clinton is. Now, what Texter's talking about is this story that we're talking about today. It's stirring fresh questions about Joe Biden's ability to serve. So here's what Fox News is reporting, because according to them, they have obtained a set of palm cards, which are basically just cue cards. How many of you use cue cards in school for different things? We all use notes, and I'm not knocking that. I mean, look, I've got notes in front of me right now. So there's nothing – there's not a problem with that. But Joe Biden's palm cards were used at public events – And they were detailed with a photo of the person, their name, a short bio, and in the description, why Joe Biden might know them. Now, again, that's not unusual. Let's say I had been invited to Joe Biden's White House. Well, there would be nothing wrong with him having a cue card about that guy from South Carolina, Joey Hudson, whom he doesn't know. although we met years ago at a Crimestoppers dinner. I'll tell you about that in a minute. But everyone that Joe Biden came in contact with, according to the Fox News report, he had to have a cue card. Even for people like Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer. Reportedly, Fox News has a cue card for Hillary. that explains, has a picture of her, and explains that she's the former First Lady and the former Secretary of State. He had one for Denzel Washington, the famous actor. He had one for Senate, at the time, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. Now, if Joe Biden did not remember who Chuck Schumer was... who Hillary Clinton was, he's in worse shape than we thought he was. He was in a lot worse shape than we thought he was. Now, their defense is, well, we just wanted to be sure. We didn't want to leave anything for chance. We wanted to support the president. Does that sound like, does that sound normal to you? That the president of the United States would have to have a cue card to remind him who the majority leader at the time of the U.S. Senate was? A leader in his party? And surely, now I get that the texter made a good point, we all want to forget Hillary, but evidently Joe Biden did forget Hillary. Joe Biden had to be reminded who Hillary Clinton was. Again, a former Biden staffer is defending the card, saying that this is standard operating procedure, that briefing materials always include who's attending, their background, and potential questions. Then that's the other thing. Evidently, if a member of the media was going to be there, they would have any potential questions that that reporter might ask Joe Biden with answers. Now, remember, this comes on the heels of the investigation of Joe Biden's auto pen, because we're really not sure who was running things, particularly that last year of his presidency. and especially the last few months of his presidency when he was issuing all of the clemency orders and pardons that the auto pen was signing. When you combine that with these palm cards, it really paints a picture of a presidency where staff was carefully managing a man that evidently could not remember who he was interacting with. So if he could remember names of people within his own party, did he even know who the other world leaders were? Did he know who was calling the shots in Russia, in Korea, in China? Does this not scare you even more than that? Now, again, thank goodness on this thankful Thursday, I'm thankful that Joe Biden is no longer in the White House and that Donald Trump is. I'm even more thankful that Kamala Harris is not in the White House and that Donald Trump is. I mean, you've seen Donald Trump. He thrives on unscripted incidences. He loves to walk out to a group of reporters and talk with them with no note cards. I mean, I get a little nervous when he's giving a speech, and it's pretty obvious to me when he is going off the teleprompters. I'm thinking, oh, my, what's he going to come up with next? But we went from Joe Biden having these palm cards with every little detail of what he might be confronted with to – Donald Trump, and again, if you're watching on the Salem News Channel, we have some B-roll right now of the president standing there talking to a group of people, unsolicited, unprompted, just off the cuff, because that's what he loves to do. That's what he's good at. 800-655-6453, 800-655-MIKE. To the phones we go. Let's start with... Let's go to Hickory Grove, South Carolina. Charles, welcome, Charles. You're on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Yes, sir. How are you doing today?
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I'm wonderful. I hope you are.
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I'm doing well. Thank you for taking my call.
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Sure thing. What's on your mind?
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Well, you know, these illegals, they're letting them come here, and they're lavishing them with all kinds of money, and they're breaking our laws left and right, and nothing's being done to them. But I'm an electrician, so I'm licensed. And I am doing some work for this one gentleman. He's from South Africa. And he's done all the documentation to be an American citizen in this country. And he said it's a lot of money just to go through that process. But they're letting all these illegals come in here and let them break our laws and not do anything. And our our congressmen and senators are constantly breaking our laws and they're not being held accountable. But we have Americans going through the justice system every day and everything from a parking ticket to murder. And they have to go before a judge and they and they pay for their crimes. But no, these people, they just get away with it and nothing's done. So I think it's you know, our country is going to explode. And when it does, it ain't going to be going to be pretty.
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Well, and I hope you're wrong on that last part. I hope we don't explode. I hope that President Trump is able to get everything under control in these four years that he's going to have in office. And I think he will. I mean, we're already seeing major strides as opposed to what Joe Biden did. And you're right. The Biden-Harris administration coddled. the illegals. They made it attractive for them to come into our country with plane tickets to any city they chose, other transportation, bus tickets. They gave them cell phones. They gave them visa cards with a balance on there to spend for food. They gave them free hotel rooms. So with that in mind, who wouldn't want to come Who wouldn't want to snatch up their family, uproot their family, and come to a better land? They're going to get free health care. They're going to get better jobs if they want to work at all. If they don't want to work, we'll give it to them. I mean, who would turn that down? You can't blame them. You've got to blame our country, our leaders, for allowing our border to be open like that. 800-655-6453. Guests go to Stephanie in Minneapolis. Welcome, Stephanie. You're on the Matt Gallagher Show.
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Thank you. Thank you for taking my call.
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Sure thing, Stephanie. What's on your mind?
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Well, this is Thankful Thursday, and I just want to let you tell you I'm calling from Minnesota. And, you know, you and your listeners know about that horrible shooting at Annunciation Catholic. And remember, a lot of Democrats, including the mayor of Minneapolis, were mocking people who were saying that they were going to pray for the victims and how terrible that was. Well, one little girl that was shot in the head in the head. is um in the hospital and um the father locally was on tv and he said they've been getting prayer requests from around the world people praying for her and they just had it in the paper the local papers and they're saying that she's recovering and they're saying it's miraculous she's wow she's she's gonna be better so i just thought it was that you should know that that prayer is powerful and we have a good god and we should be thankful for that
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Well, thank you, Stephanie. That is a great, thankful Thursday story, and it's just proof that prayer works, folks. Prayer, God comes through for us in our time of need, and I'm so glad to hear that this little girl is healing because of God's healing touch. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike. Glad you're alone.
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Mike Gallagher.
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Joey Hudson in for Mike today. Text her on the MyPillow text line. I'm thankful that our enemies did not attack us or any of our allies while Joe Biden was president. Look, if you have followed the story of the cue cards of Joe Biden, it really makes cold chills go down your spine of just how bad he evidently was. Having to have cue cards. with a photo of Hillary Clinton and her name and the fact that she was a former First Lady and a former Secretary of State because he couldn't remember it, I guess. I don't know. But I appreciate your text. Your texts are welcome, as are your phone calls. You can email me directly, joey at joeyhudson.com. Let me invite you to join me on my daily podcast, Just the Truth. You can find it wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also text the keyword joey. to our our text line 800-655-6453 just text my name joey to 800-655-6453 and i'll send you a link because i'd love to have you join me every day on just the truth to the phone san antonio james is waiting how are you james yeah hey joey um you know i'm i gotta plead a little bit of ignorance i've got to look you up because i've really enjoyed listening to you uh this morning Thank you.
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I'm sitting here on the river. I'm retired, military retired, and worked a little bit as a civilian. You know, I live off of a budget. I heard somebody talking, you know, if I can't live by my budget, I'd lose a little bit more than my house. I'm afraid my wife would go, too. And she's from Brazil. This girl can cook. So my point was just going to be that I heard somebody saying earlier that, oh, they should be holding their pay. These people are well-to-do. They don't even pay attention to their pay. So I wouldn't touch them there. I know what people value that have a little bit of money, and that's going to be their time.
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Yep.
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And so what I would do is I would make them all have to stay there. I'd give them a day off, but I'd have them pull 60-hour weeks, six of those days a week, and I'd have them sit there and work it out until they work it out.
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Yep. Yep. Kind of like my mother used to make me do with my homework. She'd lock me in my room until I finished my homework.
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She is a wise woman.
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Yes. Nana Hudson, she raised me well. Hey, James, I'm glad you're listening. Thanks for your kind words. And, hey, join me on my podcast each day, Just the Truth.
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I will.
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Just go to joeyhudson.com. You can register there. Have a wonderful day. Todd is in Dallas, Texas. Welcome, Todd. Thank you.
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Thanks for having me.
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What's on your mind today?
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Well, I know you're talking about the government shutdown and everything right now, but I'm caught up in this Candace Owens conspiracy thing that she says she has dug into deeply with all her, I don't know, her association with other people and everything and the assassination. Yeah.
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Yeah, Ty, there's all kind of conspiracy things. And look, I don't know what Candace Owens, what the issue there is. I think it's, first off, it's a sad, sad thing that we lost Charlie Kirk. Secondly, all of these conspiracy theories of, well, look at his security. The guy was doing hand signals behind them and that stuff. We lost Charlie Kirk to someone who was mentally ill. It's just that simple. Unfortunately, and I wish I hadn't seen it, we saw him shot. We saw the wound. We saw the blood pouring out of his neck. And so the whole idea that it's not what it appeared to be, I just can't buy any of that. We lost a great American, a nice young Christian man in Charlie Kirk, and rather than sitting around talking about, well, was he really shot, or did the shooter on top of the building with the rifle, did he shoot him? Why was the guy on top of the building with the rifle to begin with if he didn't shoot Charlie? Let's go to Gordon who is in Fayetteville, Georgia. Welcome, Gordon.
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Hey, Joey. Listen, I'm a Republican all the way. I vote Republican. I see the Democrats as being the problem not only today but decades in the past and probably decades in the future if they ever get control again. But the one thing in all this budget stuff, as i mentioned to the call screener were 37 trillion in debt but republicans voted for it yep yep they did you know we we've had criticisms of the republican party us out here when the tea party came along we were so upset that we kind of formed our grassroots uh party to get those uh people elected. And even at that time, the Republican Party rejected the Tea Party, even attacked the Tea Party. And then I watched that thing with Ilhan Omar the other day. Four Republicans voted not to censure her. So one of the things us voters, us Republicans out here really want, we want a strong leader like Trump. We love the fact that he's doing all the things that we have wanted the Republican Party to do for 20 years. And we'll always vote for those people.
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Yeah. Well, and Gordon, the reason – and sorry to interrupt – the reason Donald Trump is so popular is he says what he thinks. He's not a politician where he just dances around his words. If he thinks it, he says it. But he just uses his common sense. I mean, we've been talking about budgets. You know, if President Trump is working on building a new project – he has to stay within that budget. If he's building another Trump Tower somewhere, he has a budget. If he doesn't stay within that budget, then he loses money. He's just a business person. He wants our government to be run the same way.
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And I'll tell you, the Republicans out here, that we just love voting for him, and we love voting for very strong conservatives, and we just need a couple more added, and we need a couple removed.
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Yep, yep. We just need to hold them accountable, and some of you appreciate your phone call, Gordon, 800-655-6453. Your texts are welcome, as well as your emails, joey at joeyhudson.com. The president this morning started his day on Truth Social saying, I have a meeting today with Russ Voigt, he of the Project 2025 fame, to determine which of the many Democrat agencies, most of which are a political scam, He recommends to be cut, and whether or not those cuts will be temporary or permanent. I can't believe the radical left Democrats gave me this unprecedented opportunity. They are not stupid people, so maybe this is their way of wanting to quietly and quickly make America great again. President D.J.T. Then he followed up a few minutes later with, Republicans must use this opportunity of Democrat force closure to clear out dead wood, waste, and fraud. Billions of dollars can be saved. Make America great again. And look. Donald Trump is going to take full advantage of this shutdown that the Democrats forced on us. Donald Trump is going to – because he's granted additional powers within the shutdown where he can move things around. He's going to strategically do that. He's going to eliminate some programs. He's probably going to fire some federal workers because he can, and the Democrats opened it up to allow him to do that. And that's why we all voted for Donald Trump. last November, why he won overwhelmingly, and why we trust that Donald Trump is truly going to make America great again. Special thanks to the team, Eric and Christian and Alex and Tracy. Appreciate you joining me. We'll be back again tomorrow for more of the Mike Gallagher Show. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike.

In this episode, we delve into the bizarre series of events unfolding in Florida and beyond. Join us as we recount the amusing yet troubling stories of Florida men breaking speed limits in haste towards trivial appointments, including the bewildering attempted destruction of evidence in a daring escape worthy of its own film plot. Shift gears with us as we explore the bewildering antics of so-called activists trying to deliver aid to Gaza through unorthodox and futile methods, a saga of yachts, misplaced plans, and unexpected comic relief.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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All right, all right. So let's see. We've got... So yesterday we had the guy who was going 124 miles per hour and his excuse to the police was, well, I really had to go to the bathroom. Can you let me go? And they're like, that's not how this works. Well, another guy got in trouble for he was over 100 miles per hour. He was pulled over Michael Stanek. And when they said, why are you going over 100 miles per hour? And I think it was supposed to be like, what, 50, 45, 50, the speed, because I saw a different article. He said, well, you know, I'm late to my barber appointment. Now, gents, I'm feeling you as a lady. You know, I get the importance of it. I'm feeling you right now so hard. But you can't do that. The police did not accept that as an excuse. They're like, maybe you should have left earlier. You can't fly down the highway in like a 45, 50, over 100 miles per hour. So he got pulled over. He ended up getting he went he spent the night in jail and he bonded out of one hundred and fifty dollars. How do you spend the night at jail? Did they just, cause the body cam, they only released stills from the body cam footage and it still looked like it was daylight. So how did he not just get to bond out? Right? Like, can't you just bond? I don't know how the jail, you know, having never been arrested, I don't know how this works. Can't you just like bond out like immediately? Why would the hell would you stay the night in jail?
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I wonder if it has to do with how many miles per hour he was over the speed limit.
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Well, I guess so. Yeah. So, um, A Florida man tried to eat the evidence, but it didn't work out well. He's a known felon, known as Rambo. Clearly he's not. And he got busted. It was a drug bust. And his name is Matthew Raymond Rambo, 58. He had an active warrant already. And when they busted him, he tried to eat everything. He tried to eat the money. He tried to eat all of the crack cocaine. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. How is he alive? He apparently ate like 10 grams of cocaine. And they had to rush him to the hospital. And they saved him. And then they booked him into the Martin County Jail. So don't think that you're going to do that and get out of it either. Because they will save you and then jail you. Hello, everybody. It's Krata Thunberg.
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Once again, we'll capture.
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She wasn't captured. IDF was like, girl, why are you so stupid? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley, the top of the second hour. So Greta Thunberg and the flotilla activists, they were trying to get into Gaza and they could not get through. My favorite part was when they put cash in plastic bottles and then threw them overboard because they thought that the water would take it to the shore and that Gaza would have aid. I am not making that up. Steve can confirm because Steve and I were laughing our heads off about it during break. I'm not making that up. That's a real thing. There are photos. In fact, I think that was like one of the videos that you guys saw that Juan had put up because they actually thought they could just... I don't know how far out they were, but that they could just put stuff in plastic bottles and then that was going to do it. That was going to get that was going to get it over. But OK, there you go. So the flotilla, the Greta Thunberg flotilla. Are you shocked that they once again did not make it? How many times are they going to do this? You they they call it a flotilla. Isn't it just like one yacht? It was just one yacht. That's not even a flotilla. By the way, what Juan's getting, he's, oh my gosh, you guys, he's totally getting into the video where they're putting the stuff in plastic bottles. They're putting the humanitarian aid in plastic bottles and throwing it overboard because they think that the water gods will pull the plastic bottles. I swear to you, that's what they're doing here. To shore. And that's look at all the aid, so much aid. Look, they just stopped all of it. They ended Hamas right there with those two. They actually threw plastic water bottles with just a couple of dollars in it overseas. That's their idea of being of distributing aid. They're a bunch of stupid fame whores. There is no other way to say it. This is the most pathetic fame whorey thing that I've seen since, I don't know, Candace Owens tries to hijack Charlie Kirk's memory in TPUSA. Anyway, it's what do they call it? It's it was the global flotilla or whatever. And they were one vessel headed towards Gaza. That's guys. That's a yachting excursion. That's a yachting excursion. That's what that is.
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Did you know that they have a global flotilla tracker?
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Oh, do they? Oh, they do.
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And you get to track where they dump plastic into the ocean.
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But I thought she loved the earth. Greta, why are you littering? Why are you throwing the plastic bottles in the water? I'm very curious about this. So they made her sit down. Did they give her another sandwich? How many sandwiches has she received? This is like the second or third time, right? So they're trying to challenge Israel's blockade, which has been in place since 2007 because Hamas won't stop terrorizing everybody. Oh, look how pathetic it is. The flotilla tracker. There they are. Look how far away they were. And they thought, we're just going to throw these bottles. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. So they were intercepted again. They had to sit down, put their little picnic blanket scarves on, had a little frog hat. And that's I don't know what they thought was going to happen. This is just this is not actually doing anything. They're not actually doing anything positive. I just really don't understand the other than fame whoriness. I don't understand the point of it. It doesn't. What have they achieved, Cain? Nothing.
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No, just feeding themselves and having a little cruise on the ocean.
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You know what? They just like them IDF sandwiches. How can we go out and get another IDF sandwich? I'm Greta Thunberg. I'm going to throw plastic bottles into water. I just can't. I can't with these people. Oh, wait. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Let me look at this. This is Greta. So when the IDF intercepted them... She was trying to call the Swedish government for help. E.T. phone home. Audio Zambait 18, please.
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My name is Gaby Zambait. I'm a citizen of Sweden. If you are watching this video, I have been abducted and taken against my will by Israeli forces. Our humanitarian mission was nonviolent and abiding by international law. Please tell my government to demand my and the others' immediate release.
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I find her to be tiresome and stupid, and I think she is an embarrassment to humanity. Greta Thunberg. This is what happens when you make idiots your messiah. And she was in international waters. She was approaching the blockade. If she wants to talk about kidnapping, she was not abducted. No, the Bebus kids were abducted. When their mother and those two babies were abducted by Hamas and they were dragged off without shoes, without food or diapers, that was what an abduction looked like. The women that were raped to death, they were abducted from the music festival and then they were taken into Gaza where they were raped to death and their breasts were cut off. Greta Thunberg, you absolute entitled wealthy brat. That is what an abduction is. All of the people, the thousands who never made it home on October 7th and the ones who were abducted and they were scootered away into Gaza. where Gazans worked with Hamas to keep them in captivity. That's what an abduction is. She's always the victim. What did you think was going to happen? No, they had Hamas that got into Israeli towns. They kidnapped civilians. They kidnapped women. They kidnapped babies. They were infants ripped away from their mothers that were kidnapped. That's what an abduction looks like, you absolute entitled broad. She's too old for this. She's not a teenager anymore. She's like an adult female. Where are her ignorant parents at? I mean, I get it that her mom never made it in Hollywood. And so I guess she tried to prostitute her daughter out as some claim to fame. But at some point, it's really embarrassing. And you guys need to step in, if anything, to save face. It's asinine. No, the abductions that took place on October 7th, that's what abduction looks like. You got on a yacht to party with your friends and then you kind of bob towards Gaza. You put money in plastic bottles and threw it into the water because that's how you decided to deliver aid. And then the IDF intervened and they gave you a sandwich and they send you back to your country. That's literally the opposite of an abduction, you idiot. You got a free plane ride back to your country again. That's literally the opposite of an abduction. You disrespectful, illiterate moron. I can't stand her. I can't stand all of them. We were abducted. No, no. The Beavis kids were abducted. And you know what? They didn't get a free plane ride back home. They got sent home in boxes. And the two kids weren't even labeled correctly. The terrorists didn't even care enough about the bodies of the babies to actually put their correct names on the coffins. These people, it's that mentality of how can I make this about me? Every time. Every single time. So, yeah, she wasn't abducted. No one would actually want to abduct her. My gosh, you would have to put up with her. Nobody would want to abduct her. Jiminy Christmas as we move our partners that help bring you the program. It's the folks over at Kel-Tec. It's a Florida-based company. Everything that they do from their labor to their parts, everything all made right here in the U.S. of A. And with Kel-Tec, they make some really awesome stuff. If you are unfamiliar with all of the things that Kel-Tec has... The KS7 Gen 2 is one of the latest. This is just another, just more innovation and just some really cool stuff from Kel-Tec. The KS7 Gen 2, it has a lot of upgrades. You got a five slot Picatinny rail, style accessory rail. So you can add, you know, lights, you can add your grips, you can keep it flush and whatever, however you want to do it. This is a smooth pump action shotgun. It's fast. It's compact. It's great for tight spaces in terms of maneuverability. Has a compact bullpup design. It weighs just under seven pounds unloaded, so it's super lightweight. Ambidextrous downward shell ejection as well. You got a seven plus one capacity. This is like stellar for home defense or just really like backcountry and anywhere in between. It's the KS7 Gen 2. And you can get the Defender package as well. You got Vortex, Crossfire, Green Dot, all kinds of stuff on there. Super fun accessories. MSRP starts at $639. Super affordable and accessible. Kel-Tec's KS7 Gen 2. Made in America. Keltecweapons.com is the website. Keltecweapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I'm still trying to get over a Maxwell apartment. Because the Maxwell house coffee, they're changing it from house to apartment. I'm not kidding you. You guys thought I was joking. Like, I already got two emails, and then I got a ton of messages. Are you serious? I think that's a meme. I swear to you, it's real. I told you no one was going to believe me. That's real. It's real. I'm not making it up to just like react to something. That's actually a real thing. Kane, I swear, swearsies. Oh, man. I'm not pulling your all's leg. I promise you. People were thinking, you're just saying that to react to it on social media. I swear, hands to sky, I'm not. That's a real, they are actually changing it to Maxwell Apartment. Okay, so even flow, ooh, even flow car seats. Who chokes on a car seat? So they're recalling 324,000 even flow car seats for a choking hazard. Apparently the kids can pick off the pieces of the foam and choke to death on them. It's not really made very well. If the baby can pick it apart and choke it up on its own seat. Maybe look into some other options. Let's see. Meta is going to sell targeted ads based on your data in your AI chats. Well, I don't have AI chats. I actually don't have any. The only chat I ever did was I asked AI to make a, like, what do you think I look like? And you know how that's when it made me be a tank with guns for arms. Not even kidding you. That was the only AI chat I had. So I don't, how is this going to work if you don't have that? TechCrunch reported on it. They said that Meta is going to sell targeted ads based on data in your AI chats. So they're updating its privacy policy to reflect this on December 16th. And they're collecting data from your interactions with its AI products. And that's how it's good. So I don't have any. It's not going to have anything to sell.
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They're just going to use the old fashioned way of just listening in.
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Well, they do that anyway. Do you know, sidebar, how I joke. Oh, I need to have my little thing. Hang on. Hang on. I need to have my little Faraday envelope. So if I whisper, will it still hear me? So, so you know how I talked about like chicken pants, like as a joke, literally everything is about chickens and chicken coops and all kinds of stuff like chicken, nonstop, everything. That's all the ads show me. I made one joke about one video and from now on, I'm just besieged by chicken stuff ads. Okay. Back to normal. I'm not kidding you. I'm like terrified to talk about my phone. You say one thing and then it shows you a bunch of stupid ads that you don't want. All right. So a drone pilot was sentenced to jail and he's got one hundred fifty six thousand dollar fine after he literally collided with an L.A. firefighting plane. And the guy, this gets even crazier. Apparently, he was the co-founder and developer of Treyarch. That's the COD stuff. And now he's chief technologist or into chief technology at Skydance. Wow, he's a 57-year-old Peter Ackerman. He literally co-founded Call of Duty developer Treyarch. He flew his drone into a firefighting plane. So now he has to pay six figures in restitution, and he has to do 150 hours of community service supporting Southern California wildfire relief. They said he recklessly flew an aircraft into airspace where first responders were risking their lives. I will say... It seems pretty easy to not hit a giant firefighting plane full of water. Right? If you're a drone operator, I have a drone. And it just seems like it's easy to not hit big, giant stuff in a response zone. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that one seems a little bit like a self-owned. I got to be honest. And a mother electrocuted herself while holding her iPhone as it charged in the bath. Oh. So don't do that. This was in the UK. We have more on the way. Stick with us. Did you know that fall is one of the best seasons for planting? Many trees and plants thrive when planted now, but knowing where to start makes all the difference. That's why you should turn to fast growing trees, the largest online nursery in the United States. They offer thousands of plants from fruit trees to privacy hedges, all tailored to your climate. So landscaping feels stress-free. Plus, their Alive and Thrive guarantee means that your plants arrive ready to grow. No more loading up a dirty car or wandering around a nursery with limited options. And grown to last by American farmers, all on American soil. Whether you want privacy, shade, or natural beauty, fall is the time to plant. And with fast shipping, expert support, and top quality plants, Fast Growing Trees makes it happen. Get up to 50% off of select plants at FastGrowingTrees.com. Use code DANA at checkout for an extra 15% off of your first purchase. Visit FastGrowingTrees.com and use code DANA for an extra 15% off. Offer valid for a limited time and terms apply. Now, this was a soundbite where he was weighing in on a cardinal's decision to honor Dick Durbin in the Senate. You know, very big time pro-abortion Senator Dick Durbin. Dick Durbin has been in the Senate for how long, Cain? Really long time. He's 35, 40 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want you to listen to what he says here. He was asked about this. Listen, this is the Pope's response. Listen.
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someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life. So someone who says that I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life. So they're very complex issues. I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them, but I would ask first and foremost that there be greater respect for one another and that we search together both as human beings, in that case as American citizens or citizens of the state of Illinois, as well as Catholics, to say we need to really look closely at all of these ethical issues and to find the way forward as church. Church teaching on each one of those issues.
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So I thought equating a violent offender who exercises free will to commit crimes that are so heinous that death is an option, an optional justifiable penalty to comparing that to an innocent baby and then to illegal immigrants is wildly illogical and intentionally deceptive. These are no, these are not difficult issues. These are not complex issues when you're being honest. There was a missed opportunity for the church with Robert Serra. Man alive. I like what my friend Seth Dillon said, because he goes, if you redefine pro-life to mean a defense of all life, guilty or innocent, then you make the principle so absolute and so expansive that it rules out every legitimate use of deadly force, including self-defense and just war, and that's immoral nonsense. And he's absolutely correct. The idea that You can compare a violent criminal who knowingly commits atrocities so heinous that the established penalty is death. To compare that person who exercises their own free will to commit those atrocities to an infant who doesn't even understand that yet. That is illogical. It's disingenuous. And as Cain notes, that criminal earned his punishment. They are not comparable things. And the Bible is quite clear about penalties. I just was shocked that someone who is the vicar of Christ in the Catholic Church would make that argument. Like I said, what a missed opportunity with Robert Serra. Because I have a feeling that you wouldn't have heard Cardinal Serra say something like that at all whatsoever. He's pretty clear in his wording. And of course, this comes the day after he blessed a block of ice at a climate change event. That was what it was. And then he put his hand on the ice. And we played that yesterday. Blessed a block of ice at a climate change event. He had nothing really to say about Charlie Kirk. You have a time of massive Christian revival right now. And he's doing a climate change event and talking about this. How tone deaf. That's incredibly tone deaf. There was only one infallible person and that was Christ. Just kind of shocks me. Can have that big ceremony about climate change, but you have someone who's literally martyred for faith and there's not really anything on that. I think that that speaks to a problem that a lot of churches have right now. We talked about that a few weeks ago. Still haven't found a new church yet, but we're ongoing. And we're Church of Christ, so it'll be Church of Christ. But the... idea that I just was shocked to hear that. Because they're two entirely different things. Two entirely different things. If the church is in trouble, it will be by its own hand. It will be. And these are grotesque. That comparison was so grotesquely oversimplified. And it's such a completely vastly different comparison. variables that are being compared there. And like I said, these are not complex issues. You cannot compare the ending of an infant's life in utero to just capital punishment against someone who of their free will exercised behavior that caused such heinousness and such irreparable harm and ended someone else's life. Those are not things that you can compare. It's beyond. Man. Robert Serra. Could have had Pope Serra. Well, that wouldn't have been his name. He'd have picked a different name, but, you know.
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Join us as we delve deep into the heated debate surrounding healthcare provisions. Unmasking the rhetoric and getting to the facts, we break down the complex legislation concerning healthcare access for immigrants and the ongoing political narrative between Democrats and Republicans. Our discussion seeks to clarify miscommunications that have shaped public perceptions and explore the real intent behind the policies.
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Donald Trump blessed it as well.
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So let me ask you about a provision that the Republicans are talking about quite a bit. I know you want to talk about and Democrats want to talk about extending the Obamacare subsidies, which expire at the end of 2025. But they talk about the provisions and it's right here. subtitle E and this has to do with the repeal of healthcare subtitle changes and specifically what it is. How they characterize it is you want to give health insurance to undocumented immigrants. I understand that's not really an accurate depiction, but what it does do is... That's a lie. it's a lie but what you support does bring back funding for emergency medicaid to hospitals some of which does pay for undocumented immigrants and people who don't have health insurance and also there is this provision and it's not about undocumented immigrants it's about people with asylum seekers and people with temporary protected status etc etc but about their ability to get medicaid so they're non-citizens they're not undocumented they're not illegal Why even include that in a bill knowing that they're going to seize right upon that and use that as a message?
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I understand that Donald Trump... Well, because they're counting on you, Jake, to carry the water for them. They're counting on you. What the heck? What do you think? Because that's usually how it's always gone, right? You have the media that... Absolutely carries the water for Democrats. And to that point, they get into I mean, getting into the weeds and doing all of the getting into the all of the narrative building for the left and basically structuring their argument for them while you're asking them a question that I mean, that's just kind of part of it. I can't stand people who do the questioning like that. Like, oh, let me set you up with a total softball, by the way. Let me just get you set up with a softball. And, you know, we'll just do. And Hakeem Jeffries, why are they going to him with everything all the time? He's in the house. They pass this. Why aren't the hard questions being thrown to, say, Chuck Schumer, right? Why are they not being thrown to, like, Chuck Schumer? Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this first hour in the program. And we're going to get into just because I figured it's probably important. So you have the information just to explain. Yes, absolutely. It's about funding health care for people who are. who are in the country illegally. I mean, it's absolutely true. We're going to get into that. We're going to get into some of the ADL stuff. which has—I'm just enraged over this, the ADL thing, and I'm very glad that Kash Patel has ended the association that the ADL had with— the FBI's association with the ADL over the Turning Point USA stuff. So we're going to get into all of that and more here coming up. So into this, I just—I want to touch on this because I saw— They've had memores about it all day yesterday. I'm looking at my notes. For those of you who can't see, I have a giant, we do the radio program and you're watching us do radio. So there's no teleprompter. I'm not going to stare lovingly into the screen for forever because I got all of this stuff right here on my desktop because you're watching a radio program. So channel 347, the chat's at Rumble. So I'm looking at my notes here. And I mentioned this yesterday. It's something that the vice president had also tweeted out. I think it was this morning that he tweeted this out, where he was talking about the fungibility of money, right? He's talking about the fungibility of money. And he's right, and I made this point yesterday, because when you're getting billions of dollars from the government, you're essentially that frees up the money that you have for other things, right? And that's something that the vice president had tweeted about. And again, we did a whole thing on this yesterday talking about this. So he's I think it's interesting, too, that the VP is out doing most of the fighting on this. Do you find that interesting, Cain? It's not so much POTUS. This is like the fourth time I've seen VP go out.
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Yeah, and I think he's like the tiebreaker in the Senate if it ever comes to that. So my guess is that's probably why.
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I've never seen a vice president be utilized like that.
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Well, the last ones haven't had the ability to deal with the press like J.D. Vance has proven he can.
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Even on the Republican side of things, I've got to say. So it's interesting to see. messaging on this democrats were trying to they were trying to explain the government shutdown and they decided that instead of trying to because they can't they can't push back against the fact that you have people who are going to be getting this money illegally or people who are in the country illegally that are going to be getting money so they decided to do memes this is what they put out instead of addressing these concerns this is audio this is cut eight I hate this. They can't mean this was not funny at all. It was actually disturbing. This is cut eight. This is what they did instead of addressing any of these concerns. Watch.
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Republican and Democrat kiddies cannot agree on what should be funded. Democrat kiddies want you to have health care. Republican kiddies do not. Republican kiddies control the Senate, House, and the White House, so they're using that to cut your health care and give money to billionaires. Democrat kiddie tries to negotiate, but Republican kiddie keeps running away. He has a vacation to get to. Uh-oh, suddenly the money you pay for your health insurance has tripled. Thanks, Republicans.
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How do you think that happened? That happened specifically because of the way that Obamacare is designed. So they're complaining because Obamacare is designed a certain way? And you know, too, they also had the repeal of all of the expansions with HSA. And they wanted to repeal all of the expansions of HSA access to all of these Americans also. And guess what? That gives money to insurance companies. So they mess up. They fail. They fall on their face. This covers their… failures, but yet you get fewer choices. This is how Obamacare was designed to work. So they're complaining about how Obamacare was designed to work. They're complaining, but this was the design. So that's the meme that they posted. Why is the Democrat kitty naked? What a pervert. Put some clothes on, you freak. Why is the Democrat kitty naked? Of course he is. Just saying. So they posted that. What did Republicans post in response? Was it just a photo or did they actually do a video response?
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I thought it was just a photo.
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I thought it was just a photo, too. They don't have time for that stuff. That's just so... They posted that on TikTok. Like, oh, well, they don't want you to have healthcare. That's not what this is about. Let me explain something really quickly with this. So when you're looking at... When you're looking at the issue of health care, and we've talked about this before, yes, absolutely, taxpayers fund health care for people who are in the country illegally, right? In fact, this is, I think, what was it, almost $65 billion in federal expenditures were attributable to illegal aliens, and that's a 45% increase since 2017, right? There's a lot. Now, remember also, and I'm going to pull this up. I've got some things here. Remember also that under Biden, and this is huge, this is a big thing under Biden, they relaxed the criteria that is used to evaluate someone's They're whether they're in the country legally or not, and that determines their eligibility. The Biden administration relaxed that. So they made it easier for people here illegally to qualify and receive health care benefits. I mean, I've got a ton of links and even some archived pages where they were announcing this under the Biden administration. And it gets even worse depending on the state. The Congressional Budgetary Office said that Medicaid spending on illegal aliens, and this was just last year alone, Medicaid spending on illegal aliens costs taxpayers over $16 billion. Congressional Budgetary Office, they released its analysis. And what they estimated is that it's over, and they think it's well over, $16 billion. It is an increase of 124% compared to the exact same period under the Trump administration. This is from the Congressional Budgetary Office. And this is also because you had the Biden administration, again, relax the criteria that's used to determine whether or not someone is eligible based upon their legal status. That's a fact. And this they the way that they redefined it in terms of being able to access it. Remember how I told you they were expanding who is and who is not an asylee, who is and who is not a refugee. And the problem with that is that asylees, et cetera, that's capped. So if you have X amount of people coming into that in a certain period, it's. And even if they don't really qualify for it, they get it. And then someone who is a legitimate asylee tries to apply and become an asylum seeker. They're denied because that quota was met for the year by people who are abusing that definition. And so that's one of the things that under Biden-Harris, they relaxed these definitions. They relaxed these classifications. So literally, it pretty much includes everybody because everybody was classified as an asylee under Biden-Harris. And so that allowed people who were previously considered in the country unlawfully to be considered lawful. And then they qualified for legal status and they were eligible for the ACA tax credits. That's a fact. And again, it gets even worse state by state. In California, let me pull this up. This is a piece from March of this year where they were exploiting the Medicaid loophole to pay billions for illegal immigrants' health care. This is according to an independent study. It's the Economic Policy Innovation Center. They said states can do these provider taxes to funnel money back to the state. And then they put illegal immigrants on Medicaid. That is literally what is going on. That's the head of the Economic Policy Innovation Center, a.k.a. EPIC. That was the release of their study, along with the Paragon Health Institute. They were studying California's Medicaid provider and the taxes and how much money was going towards illegal aliens, their health care and other initiative. And it was billions upon billions upon billions upon billions of dollars. Absolute billions and the current law states are required to pay medicaid providers the same amount as the taxes that are raised now the federal government matches that matches those payments by like 60 50 60 percent to help states recoup some medicaid costs so yes your money there's a million different methods and ways in which your money is absolutely going towards us in new york for instance this was So beginning in January 1st, they had a new option for health insurance for people who are illegal aliens. So it says new health insurance options for, they said, I don't believe in the phrase undocumented, illegal aliens. And they had a fact sheet that was entirely in Spanish to explain the benefits that you would get even though you're here illegally. So all of this, absolutely, they are receiving. Absolutely, they're receiving insurance. Free health care paid for by us, the taxpayer. That's a fact. Absolute fact. There was also the Federation for American Immigration Reform. This was a study that was published March 8th of 2023, and it looked at the fiscal burden of illegal immigration on United States taxpayers and what it discovered was. Was that in 23, it was $66.4 billion. That's the expenditures, federal expenditures on illegal aliens, Cain. Now, of medical spending, $24 billion. Billion? Billion. Oh. Absolute billion. Yep. And all of these things, they were still... This is one of the things that Trump was pushing in terms of ending DACA to keep people who are who are abusing DACA from receiving these benefits also. So there's a lot here. Our new partner, kind of a new partner to the program, the Dana Show program, especially since we've been talking about health care and Obamacare and Medicaid and all of this good stuff. It's chapter. So it is. How many times have you heard this? It's Medicare annual enrollment season. I don't even know. I don't I mean, I don't even need it. But I'm like, wait a minute. 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He continues to attempt to justify the claim that Democrats are pushing for free health care for illegal aliens, illegal immigrants, citing the fact that you can encounter undocumented people in hospital emergency rooms. And he said he keeps suggesting that this was some decision of the Biden administration to provide these emergency services to undocumented people. In fact, that is not the case. This has been a government policy of the U.S. federal government for decades, that hospitals are required to provide emergency care to whoever turns up there, regardless of immigration status.
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I told you that yesterday. This is a CNN fact checker who's saying, well, so here's how he's trying to get around it. He's trying to say that Biden and Harris don't have any ownership of it because and I was telling you about this yesterday. It's already federal law in that they people who go to emergency rooms, et cetera, have to be provided with care. However, what's different is that Biden and Harris absolutely under the Biden administration, they redefined Isai Lee. They redefined what a legal protected status was so that people who were technically who were here, not technically, but gratuitously illegally were able to kind of fudge their status and receive benefits. being here illegally that's a fact and then some states went above and beyond even more egregious with it welcome back to the program dana lash with you one of the other things that was taking place under the biden harris administration was the hate mongering from groups like the adl you guys are familiar with the anti-defamation league which just like everything else in washington is very weirdly named it's always named after the thing that it doesn't do So ADL had, they had this list where, their extremists list, right? And they had a ton of different groups, none of which included Black Lives Matter or Antifa. None of those groups were listed on it. But they listed Turning Point USA. They even listed the Family Research Council. They listed FRC, the Family Research Council, on that before as well. And you remember with – and I'm pulling this story up – the Family Research Council with that, or the Family Research Center – no, FRC, yeah – This was back and they were criticizing them as promoting hate and extremism as recently as even October of 23. And they had mentioned the Family Research Council before. And they listed them as an extreme. They said that they promote extremism and hate. Now, if you remember back when the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is another group that is a hate group, Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group. They put a map of what they said were extremist entities. And they had a map that included the Family Research Council and a man named Floyd Lee Corkins. based on this map, and that's his words that he gave to law enforcement. They took his statement, and it also came up in legal proceedings after when he went to court. He was inspired by that map, found them on their extremist list, and this was over the Chick-fil-A stuff and same-sex marriage, and he took a bunch of Chick-fil-A sandwiches, and he walked into the lobby of the Family Research Council, and he opened fire, and his goal was to kill Family Research Council members And then shoved the Chick-fil-A sandwiches into their dead gaping mouths. That's what he was going to do. And he ended he was taken into custody and he admitted that it was the Southern Poverty Law Center map. That's where he first that's where he saw where they were, etc. so anti-defamation league is very similar in terms of inciting hate and they had listed and again they did not list black lives matter as an extremist group they didn't listen occupy wall street as an extremist group they haven't listed antifa as an extremist group but it's all christian and conservative entities and they listed turning point usa as an extremist group now here's the interesting thing if you think well this is just This is just something that this group did and it doesn't really matter. Well, it does matter because they had a relationship with the FBI. And there would be opportunities and penalties that came with being a group that was considered extremist by an affiliate or an ally of the Biden-Harris FBI. The FBI and the ADL actually worked together. In fact, the ADL trained FBI personnel. They had an entire hate crimes regime or program, regimen, and they trained FBI personnel on things like extremism, hate, things like that. It included the, quote, law enforcement and society program. And they had developed that program. They worked with James Comey. James Comey just fawned over the ADL. He went to a bunch of different events that they had. He spoke at their events all the time. They literally created initiatives together. So if you think it doesn't matter that the Anti-Defamation League had listed a group like Turning Point USA as a hate group, imagine not being able to be a speaker on a college campus because the college, when they were advancing the event, talked to the FBI and the FBI said, well, based on our partner, the ADL, this is a hate group. That is literally how that works. So you had the Biden Harris FBI that was working with a far left organization that classified all groups that represented political dissent, Christian groups, pro-life groups, student groups like Turning Point as literal, quote unquote, hate and extremist groups and had them listed in their extremist glossary for who knows how long. All while collaborating with the FBI and telling and whispering into the ear of federal law enforcement staffers, this is a hate group. Do you not have an issue with that? Where are the free speech warriors on the left all of a sudden? The ones who were bitching and moaning about Jimmy Kimmel this entire time. Where are they at? Where were they? when innocuous Christian groups were being labeled as hate groups. Now you can see why the FBI designated parents who spoke out at school board meetings as, quote, domestic terrorists. Now you can see why the FBI was classifying parents and parent groups that were active in their communities as domestic terrorists and abusing the abuse left open in the loophole from the Patriot Act. Now you can see why that was happening. So now the FBI, under Kash Patel, they have severed ties with the Anti-Defamation League. And by the way, they had Turning Point listed as an extremist group before the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Patel listed this, he announced this change yesterday. And Patel said that James Comey wrote love letters to the ADL. And you know that the FBI embedded agents with the ADL. The FBI had embedded agents with the Anti-Defamation League while they were targeting conservative and Christian groups. He said that they were running, quote, disgraceful ops spying on Americans. That era is over. He says that the FBI won't partner with political fronts masquerading as watchdogs. And he is exactly right. Now, the ADL, on their part, they said that they were describing Turning Point USA as a conservative group that, quote, has ties to a range of right-wing extremists and has generated support from anti-Muslim bigots, et cetera, et cetera, white supremacists, et cetera. They listed them as promoting Christian nationalism. And in response to this, when the ADL was asked about it, they decided to delete their glossary. They said, well, it was a mistake. It was a mistake. It shouldn't have been. They shouldn't have been listed in there. No one believes that. I don't believe it was a mistake at all whatsoever. So they deleted their, quote, glossary of extremism and hate, end quote. And they had over a thousand entries. This is what they said in their statement. Quote, with so many entries written over so many years, the ADL glossary of extremism has served as a source of high level information on a wide range of topics for years. And at the same time, an increasing number of entries were outdated. We also saw a number of entries intentionally misrepresented and misused. Why does the left love making lists of people to target and persecute? The ADL is no different. The ADL itself is a hate group. The Anti-Defamation League is a hate group of thought bigots. Absolutely. You want to talk about fascism? Let's talk about the behaviors of the ADL. Listing good people as extremists simply because they believe in Jesus. No joke. That's literally Charlie Kirk's crime was he believed in Jesus and he was nice to people who disagreed with him. He's got to die. People like the groups like the ADL, they're culpable in all of this. People like the groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, they're culpable in all of this. They know what they're doing when they make these lists. You can't convince me that there isn't a tiny part of them. that secretly hopes they incite some kind of violence by making lists like these. What else is the point? What is the point? And to not even include Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, people were killed. There was an ambush on cops in Dallas where cops were murdered on live national television by a BLM activist, rioter, who was taking part in the demonstrations in downtown Dallas. Or let's talk about Antifa setting fire to a church. No, but that's not considered, that's not on any of their lists. So basically the ADL's litmus test for inclusion is do you agree, yes or no? And if you don't agree with them, then you're a hateful extremist. This is heinous. heinous, absolutely heinous. And Cain reminds me too, they are a 501c3, right? They're not a c4, they're a c3. How are they not violating their tax exempt status by being so specific? They have a heat map where you can track online extremist groups. This is what they do. So I'm glad that the FBI ended that association. This is what people don't realize when and the left doesn't they don't the left can shut the hell up because they have never had to endure what conservatives had to endure. Nobody on the left has ever had government entities breathing down their necks the way that conservatives do. They never had the FBI partner with like actual hate groups to classify them as a hate group simply for existing. Let's not forget what the FBI was trying to when they were trying to run on Catholics. Designating Catholics as hate groups, targeting Catholics and trying to embed themselves in Catholic churches. That's a reality. You know, when you hear stories like this that are real, all of the conspiracy stuff seems pretty legitimate, doesn't it? Like the story that came out about how many government officials actually were in plainclothes on J6. There's a lot of stuff there. And it makes you wonder who's pulling the levers, deep state, to try to get people to be at each other's throats. This isn't a conspiracy theory. I absolutely believe that there are these people embedded in government that would love to use and abuse government authority to kick off a civil war. Absolutely. The Biden-Harris administration, they were using the levers of government in the most abusive ways to target and persecute people for their beliefs. The Biden administration was actively persecuting Christians here. Now, how is that any different from what Nigeria is doing? Except there are a lot more of them are being killed in Nigeria than here. We just had an assassination of one Nigerian. So where are all the free speech warriors? Spare me about that fat ass Jimmy Kimmel. Where are all the free speech warriors on the left who were so upset over Jimmy Kimmel? Not a single one of them have had anything to say about the FBI actively embedding agents within the ADL and targeting Christian organizations. So that's why you can't take anyone on the left seriously. 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get the lowdown on the latest news with a side of laughs whenever you want subscribe to the dana show podcast on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcast like sands through the hourglass so are the days of the united states the line on the title track you go death where you say something like i'm the most famous girl in this racist country i
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Do you want to name names?
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Could be a couple. Could be a couple different.
SPEAKER 16 :
It could be a couple, but I'm always talking about Morgan Wall and I don't give a ****. Find me at Whole Foods, bitch.
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I don't care.
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Find me at Whole Foods where I go and buy overpriced, like not really totally organic groceries because I'm such a scene stir whore. Morgan Wallen, you make so much more money than me and you're going to have a longer lasting career because my career was built upon like falsetto and bad tone and also sex. And that ages you when you start hitting 40. Where's the lie? For real. I think some people are just like, no one's paying attention to me. So I got to pull a political stunt. And then they do something like this. I don't know. I'm just not I'm not into paramour just because it's. I'm not. I just I've never been a fan. I just always thought her vocal tone was like thin and weak. And I don't think that she could hit some of the notes of that auto tune. And they're just a lot more. There are a lot of other actually really talented female vocalists out there. So I don't care. But I do think if you're going to be petty, then you completely give people like me who thrive on opportunities to just be really just unleash. It's a skill set. and it just gives the green light to respond in kind just have to say and those who i don't even know what show that was everybody's got a podcast welcome to turd talk it's our podcast where we don't do anything we're just gonna say we're gonna talk to these people you think we don't know it's what it is you know kane that's exactly what it is i um i'm not are you a fan of are you a fan of paramore i'm not
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No, there was a time I was, back in the early 2000s.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, how old is she now?
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Honestly, she's got to be in her late 40s, probably.
SPEAKER 16 :
Bitch, you're too old for this. Stop it. Good night. I just can't stand this stuff. It's, you know, you can't... She's 36?
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Oh, so she was... Oh, the Megs are getting old, girl.
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Uh... If you are offended, there are some people out there that think my comments are about them. Like that one nasty lady that wrote me a nasty gram. Not everything is about you. It's really just about this chick that we're talking about right now. But that's like, why are you going to be mean? She sounds jealous and petty, right? Morgan Wallen, he's just going to go crying to all his money. This chick doesn't like me. Anyway, I'm over it. All right. We got a lot more on the way, including. Oh, wait. I didn't even get to half the stuff that we have. Hold up. I got lawlessness and disorder. Knives out for Secwar. They're coming at him. All the people whose feelings that he hurt yesterday when he went to their faces and said, you fat. or earlier this week, I should say. They're very mad, and now they're threatening to leak on him. So we're going to talk about that coming up. Stick with us. Second hour on the way.
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Hello, everybody. It's Greta Thunberg.
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Once again, we'll capture you. She wasn't captured. IDF was like, girl, why are you so stupid? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley, the top of the second hour. So Greta Thunberg and the flotilla activists, they were trying to get into Gaza and they could not get through. My favorite part was when they put cash in plastic bottles and then threw them overboard because they thought that the water would take it to the shore and that Gaza would have aid. I am not making that up. Steve can confirm because Steve and I were laughing our heads about it, our heads off about it during break. I'm not making that up. That's a real thing. There are photos. In fact, I think that was like one of the videos that you guys saw that Juan had put up because they they actually thought they could just. i don't know how far out they were but that they could just put stuff in uh plastic bottles and then that was gonna do it that was gonna get that was gonna get it over but okay there you go so uh the flotilla the greta thunberg flotilla are you shocked that they'd once again did not make it how many times are they gonna do this you they they call it a flotilla isn't it just like one yacht It was just one yacht. That's not even a flotilla. By the way, what Juan's getting, he's, oh my gosh, you guys, he's totally getting into the video where they're putting the stuff in plastic bottles. They're putting the humanitarian aid in plastic bottles and throwing it overboard because they think that the water gods will pull the plastic bottles. I swear to you, that's what they're doing here. To shore. And that's look at all the aid, so much aid. Look, they just stopped all of it. They ended Hamas right there with those two. They actually threw plastic water bottles with just a couple of dollars in it overseas. That's their idea of being of distributing aid. They're a bunch of stupid fame whores. There is no other way to say it. This is the most pathetic fame whorey thing that I've seen since, I don't know, Candace Owens tries to hijack Charlie Kirk's memory in TPUSA. Anyway, it's what do they call it? It's it was the global flotilla or whatever. And they were one vessel headed towards Gaza. That's guys. That's a yachting excursion. That's a yachting excursion. That's what that is. They, what, Kate?
SPEAKER 05 :
Did you know that they have a global flotilla tracker?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, do they? Oh, they do.
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And you get to track where they dump plastic into the ocean.
SPEAKER 14 :
But I thought she loved the earth. Greta, why are you littering? Why are you throwing the plastic bottles in the water?
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I'm very curious about this. So they made her sit down. Did they give her another sandwich? How many sandwiches has she received? This is like the second or third time, right? So they're trying to challenge Israel's blockade, which has been in place since 2007 because Hamas won't stop terrorizing everybody. Oh, look how pathetic it is. The flotilla tracker. There they are. Look how far away they were. And they thought, we're just going to throw these bottles. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. So they were intercepted again. They had to sit down, put their little picnic blanket scarves on, had a little frog hat. And that's I don't know what they thought was going to happen. This is just this is not actually doing anything. They're not actually doing anything positive. I just really don't understand the other than fame whoriness. I don't understand the point of it. It doesn't. What have they achieved, Cain? Nothing.
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No, just feeding themselves and having a little cruise on the ocean.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know what? They just like them IDF sandwiches. How can we go out and get another IDF sandwich?
SPEAKER 14 :
Them Greta Thunberg. I'm going to throw plastic bottles into water.
SPEAKER 16 :
I just can't. I can't with these people. So... Oh, wait. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Let me look at this. This is... This is Greta. She... So when the IDF intercepted them... She was trying to call the Swedish government for help. E.T. phone home. Audio Zambait 18, please.
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My name is Gaby Zambait. I'm a citizen of Sweden. If you are watching this video, I have been abducted and taken against my will by Israeli forces. Our humanitarian mission was nonviolent and abiding by international law. Please tell my government to demand my and the others' immediate release.
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I find her to be tiresome and stupid, and I think she is an embarrassment to humanity. Greta Thunberg. This is what happens when you make idiots your messiah. And she was in international waters. She was approaching the blockade. If she wants to talk about kidnapping, she was not abducted. No, the Bebus kids were abducted. When their mother and those two babies were abducted by Hamas and they were dragged off without shoes, without food or diapers, that was what an abduction looked like. The women that were raped to death, they were abducted from the music festival and then they were taken into Gaza where they were raped to death and their breasts were cut off. Greta Thunberg, you absolute entitled wealthy brat. That is what an abduction is. All of the people, the thousands who never made it home on October 7th and the ones who were abducted and they were scootered away into Gaza. where Gazans worked with Hamas to keep them in captivity. That's what an abduction is. She's always the victim. What did you think was going to happen? No, they had Hamas that got into Israeli towns. They kidnapped civilians. They kidnapped women. They kidnapped babies. They were infants ripped away from their mothers that were kidnapped. That's what an abduction looks like, you absolute entitled broad. She's too old for this. She's not a teenager anymore. She's like an adult female. Where are her ignorant parents at? I mean, I get it that her mom never made it in Hollywood. And so I guess she tried to prostitute her daughter out as some claim to fame. But at some point, it's really embarrassing. And you guys need to step in, if anything, to save face. It's asinine. No, the abductions that took place on October 7th, that's what abduction looks like. You got on a yacht to party with your friends and then you kind of bob towards Gaza. You put money in plastic bottles and threw it into the water because that's how you decided to deliver aid. And then the IDF intervened and they gave you a sandwich and they send you back to your country. That's literally the opposite of an abduction, you idiot. You got a free plane ride back to your country again. That's literally the opposite of an abduction. You disrespectful, illiterate moron. I can't stand her. I can't stand all of them. We were abducted. No, no. The Beavis kids were abducted. And you know what? They didn't get a free plane ride back home. They got sent home in boxes. And the two kids weren't even labeled correctly. The terrorists didn't even care enough about the bodies of the babies to actually put their correct names on the coffins. These people, it's that mentality of how can I make this about me? Every time. Every single time. So, yeah, she wasn't abducted. No one would actually want to abduct her. My gosh, you would have to put up with her. Nobody would want to abduct her. Jiminy Christmas. So a few other things here we have. This, let's see where to start. We, well, let me do Sec War real quick. So I saw this last night. My eyebrow went up. Here's the headline. Highly sensitive Pete Hegseth leak explodes inside Pentagon as he launches dystopian lie detector tests. I saw some people that were complaining about the fact that he, because remember the headlines leading up to this meeting of generals. Oh my gosh, why is the Pentagon calling this meeting of generals? Why is this happening? This is so weird, right? Can you remember all that? Yeah. Why are they doing this? Calling a meeting of the generals. Well, they called a meeting of the generals so he could talk to them about their new the new standards, the new fitness standards. Right. And someone said this is a Politico. The headline could have been an email officials balk at Hegseth Hegseth's generals meeting. That was the headline. The last minute gathering featured hundreds of senior military officials, blah, blah, blah. And they said they thought they were attending a campaign rally. They didn't. There were no names. They just said they. But I thought, oh, wait, that could have been an email. You can't see their faces via email. Imagine a bunch of chicken hawks who want to drag us to war, but they shudder at being called fat to their faces. Oh, my goodness. This is just asinine. So now the knives are out for SEC war. Because they're saying his department has been plagued by backstabbing. Ask why. Ask why the department has been plagued by backstabbing. Oh, well, Secretary of War is not, you know, blah, blah. I don't care. Do you believe in service? Do you believe in the badges and the pins and the medals and all the insignia that you wear every single day? Or do you not? Because we have a chain of command. And the voters made their decision. And the voters selected a president. And through their consent of their vote, the president selected a secretary of war. So when you are undermining that pick, you are actually backstabbing Americans. And I'll have everybody remember how this country was founded. People tried to backstab colonists and they tried to overrun them and impose a foreign rule. And look what happened. No, the department is being plagued by backstabbing because you have a bunch of bureaucratic whiny bitches who are just upset still that they lost the last election. And so they think that they're undermining the Secretary of War when in reality they're stabbing all of us in the back. And then you want our sons and daughters to go and serve? Seriously? I wouldn't, I wouldn't trust, I don't trust command. I don't. I don't trust anybody higher up in the Pentagon or DOD, especially with this type of stuff. They're going to be upset. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Maxwell House Coffee is rebranding after 133 years. So everybody knows the Maxwell House stuff. What I don't like are the big pop-up ads that obscure the store. And I want to just absolutely rhetorically murder all of the companies that do that. They said that they're going to change it to reflect the, I guess, new era. I don't know. They're going to call it Maxwell Apartment. Are you kidding me? This is not real. See, let me look. No, it is real. Yeah, they're changing. Maxwell House is going to be Maxwell apartment to reflect, I guess, the new housing market. I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you. That's what it's saying. They had a press release. They said that one third of Americans are downsizing instead of buying full sized homes. They're getting small houses or they're renting small apartments. Two thirds of Americans drink coffee daily. They said all of that adds up. So with Maxwell apartment, are you kidding me right now?
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So instead of house, it's apartment. Why wouldn't they keep house and then keep the hope and dream of the American life alive? What in God's name is happening?
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I'm done today. This is this broke me. I'm done. This is the stupidest thing ever.
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It's not parody.
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I'm literally done. This is so stupid. I can't. Maxwell Apartment. I'm going to have my Maxwell Apartment coffee. I mean, are you making the coffee better? No, we're not doing that. Hell no. No, we're just going to add more letters on the label.
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Maxwell RV is next.
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Maxwell Shack. Going to have a Maxwell tent in Skid Row. Right?
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Jesus.
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I can't. I might have to come back to this because I just can't. I'm done. Let's see. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, they said young people are richer than boomers were. No one believes this. This is for a reason. What? They said a typical 25-year-old Gen Zer has annual household income that's 50% above that of boomers. Okay, are you taking into account inflation for that? Because I just can't. I don't believe this. No. Yeah. Sorry, I don't. Moving on. Well, we got the alligator story yesterday. So that's old. Oh, Joe Biden needed flashcards to recognize not just like the press, but actual major Democrats in his own party. He had to have flashcards to recognize Hillary Clinton, George Clooney. Who else? I think even Michelle Obama. Oh, they also had to have a card for Denzel Washington, the guy that Biden described as one of the greatest actors of the 21st century. Well, he wouldn't know. You know, he wouldn't know. They actually yeah, they had they had to do that. Stick with us. We have more in store. TCU and the problem at universities. It's Medicare annual enrollment again, and if it feels like the whole system is broken, well, you're not wrong because you get millions of spammy mailers, calls from weirdo unknown numbers, very confusing fine print. It's designed to overwhelm you. So the real problem is that Medicare plans change every single year. What covered you yesterday? might not cover you tomorrow. If you don't check, then you could lose benefits that you depend on and the system will not warn you. To make it worse, too many insurance agents push plans that pay them more, not what's best for you. So that's why I'm telling you about Chapter. They cut through the broken system by looking at every plan in the country and not just the ones that pay the highest commission. On average, they save people $1,100 a year. Look, I know that nobody wants to spend time on this, but with Chapter, it takes less than 20 minutes to review for 2026. Call Chapter by dialing pound 250 and say the keyword MyMedicare. That's pound 250, keywords MyMedicare. Medicare is too important, so don't risk it. Work with a partner that I would trust. Chapter.
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You said erratic, and I believe you used the word unhinged the other day. I did. Are you trying to draw a line between President Trump's acuity, his mental state, and what's going on here with the shutdown?
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No, no, no. I'm actually referring to some of his social media posts, which didn't seem to make a lot of sense. The sombrero and the mustache? Correct. Well, it would seem to me that as the President of the United States, On the brink of a government shutdown, if you actually wanted to bring everyone together to try to get to a resolution in a common sense, bipartisan way, that's not the type of behavior that we would see.
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Shut up. Shut up. I mean, if you're talking about bringing people together, Jake. You know, you can't criticize the fact that we're trying to get more people in the country legally covered by taxpayer funded health care.
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I mean, it's just not the way to bring people together, Jake. That's what I just heard from Hakeem Jeffries there. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of the second hour. So he's still mad about the memes. Can we play five real quick? This is. VP. I wish there was a bio, by the way, can I just, we say POTUS and FLOTUS and I like the OTIS stuff, but you can't VP. It's not the same. Go ahead and play. Sorry. This is cut five.
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On the sombrero thing, I mean, Hakeem Jeffries said it was racist, and I know that he said that, and I honestly don't even know what that means. Like, is he a Mexican-American that is offended by having a sombrero meme? I saw one of the major TV stations put the meme up and then say, this is AI-generated, and he had, like, the curly animated mustache, too. It's like, do the American people... Do you really not realize the American people recognize that he did not actually come to the White House wearing a sombrero and a black curly animation mustache? Like, give the country a little bit of credit. We're all trying to do a very important job for the American people. The president of the United States likes to have a little bit of fun when he's doing it.
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You know why they can't do that? You know why they won't give the country credit? Because, again, these are the same people who have tried to fake you out about dudes being chicks. So they can't tell what they can't even define what a woman is. So how the hell are they going to know? Well, I don't know. Maybe might be really have a sombrero. But it doesn't make any sense. It's just it doesn't. Yeah. Open the open up the government and the memes stop. Democrats are being held hostage by meme lords. I love it. Love it. I don't know if you guys saw this. This thing exploded. I saw this from TCU. So there's a detransitioner named Chloe Cole. She's 21 years old and was going to speak at Texas Christian University. And they will not allow her to give a speech there. She had posted that TCU holds pride events and they do trans stuff, but they will not allow Christian baptisms and events. They denied their October 7th event, despite rooms being available, according to students and faculty. And when pressed, they said, quote, this is not open for discussion. She adds, this is how free speech dies. Now. TCU was saying, oh, we've held stuff before for TPUSA events. It just seemed like it was an excuse. And they said that it was, they were trying to argue that it was an outside party not affiliated with TCU, but she was invited by a campus group, like a group there on campus. So it just doesn't, all I know is this. Some years ago, we went to TCU and to do a prospective student tour. You know those tours that you undertake With your college, you know, potential college freshman, et cetera. By the way, before I get started into this, I'm just can we just skip the lectures? Because nobody's preached about college more than I have over these several years, by the way. Nobody has. So I don't need the lectures about community college. I homeschooled my kids for half of their education. And I also think that when colleges are offering you money. to attend their school. That's a, that's a, that's a, you can take that and not go into debt. That's a good thing, right? Everybody's different. So please don't, I'm just tired of dealing with it. My whole point is that this, we went to this, uh, perspective parent thing, right? And not even 15 minutes into the lecture, uh, where they have like a college ambassador stand up and they're telling you about the campus culture and this is what you can expect. And I mean, not even, I'm being generous, not even 15 minutes. They immediately started it on DEI. And I noticed there were these signs like all over the room and the hallway leading up to the room where we were at, where they had like the I think that was one of the first times I started seeing the trans, the little pink trans flag thingy cane. I don't even know. It's the light blue with the anyway. So we just left. I'm like, I'm not, this is stupid. I'm not staying here anymore. This is so stupid. The C, it stands for Texas Christian University. The C is purely performative. It is entirely performative. Parents, if you're thinking about sending your kids to Texas Christian University because you think that the Christian's doing the heavy lifting, I regret to inform you that it's just there purely as a performative thing. There is nothing Christian about it. Not at all. And they've had problems for quite some time, right? There is a huge battle on our college campuses, a major battle. I mean, didn't they have like a BLM monument? One parent reached out. Their child attends there. They have a BLM monument right smack in the middle of the campus where you could leave messages about George Floyd, how his life impacted you and how much you hate something, white supremacy, et cetera, et cetera. Even though, again, just a reminder, George Floyd was a drug addict who had been in and out of jail and his last big offense was holding a loaded gun to a pregnant woman's abdomen, you know, but what of. Oh, and don't talk about the toxicology report that actually attributed cause of death to overdose. But we're going to just we'll just skip on by all that because that doesn't fit narratives. And it's very important to participate in lies to uphold a sense of false unity. So the. This I mean, it is it's it's wild, the. Level of partisanship on college campuses and go back to the thing I said just was that last hour we were talking about the FBI and how they had colluded with the 80 out the anti defamation league, their anti defamation as much as Antifa as anti fascist. It's a hate group. The ADL, they had worked to classify a lot of these groups as extremists. So when you would have colleges that would advance these events and check out these groups and they would see the ADL, who has been working with the FBI as a partner, has this group listed because of their Christian beliefs as a hate group, they're going to deny. the opportunity for that group to actually exercise free speech in conjunction with students that are requesting their presence on the college campus because of those classifications. So it absolutely is a situation of censorship. But these college campuses, I made point of this. There are a lot of college campuses that receive a lot of foreign money. And I think a lot of this is driven to divide and driven to start to incite at the college level. Because back through history, Russia, Germany, China, everywhere, it all starts in the college, it all starts at college campuses. All of that start, it all started on college campuses, far left, and it was all very organized. And I made mention of this yesterday in talking about some of this stuff, how It's the amount of money that goes towards these campuses from these leftist institutions is stunning. There was a post that I saw on social, actually it was a video I saw on social media. It was a committee on Homeland Security, Public Safety, and Veterans Affairs. And they were talking about money going into these universities. Since 2001, it was reported, universities, and we talked about this last week, have accepted billions from Qatar. And did you know that Qatar even sued Texas to hide its funding of Texas A&M? It was trying to obscure who it was giving money to. Don't you think that that's kind of an important thing? I do. There's a true story. Texas A&M failed to report $100 million in Qatari funds per the Texas Public Policy Foundation. They had to file a FOIA request. Actually, it was under Texas Public Records Act. Texas A&M had received going towards $300 million from Qatar. And the Qatar Foundation, which is a state-controlled agency, so it's a Qatari agency, they sued to block the release of this information. They said it was a trade secret and it should be shielded from disclosure. They were in court for five years. And the only reason we even know About any of this is because Texas A&M was ordered by the court to release the contracts and the Qataris lost their suit. This was it was wild. They fought to hide it. This is just one example. So in looking at this stuff. I mean, this is why. It's like they always look the other way when you have this stuff that crops up on these college campuses. Not enough people are asking who the largest donors are to American universities. Not enough people are asking why not enough are not talking about it. And they're not asking why are they not talking about it? Why are some of the biggest mouths in conservative media not really talking about the Qataris? They're not talking about, and I'm not, this is not speculation. This is publicly recorded fact. The number one donor, number one, ahead of even the CCP, which is number two, to these universities is Qatar. Now, why is that? Soft power. Spreading influence through money. They're a tiny nation. They're trying to hold their own against the United Arab Emirates and the Saudis. They got a frenemy. Well, not frenemy. They have a friendly relationship with Iran. They have that gas field there in the Persian Gulf between their two countries. So they already they're they're technically part of Iran's energy infrastructure. So they're always protected. They can be they can be sassy. That's one of the reasons why they sheltered Hamas. Because they're they're they in part act like a middleman for Qatar. But you've got to ask, why all of this money going towards these universities? And a lot of it, interestingly, the donors to the universities and the donors to these big leftist organizations that fund and fuel a lot of this division that you see in nations across the country, they're the same. Cain, it's so weird. How weird is that? I mean, I don't want to put on my tinfoil or anything, but... I'm just curious because all I hear about is APAC, APAC, APAC. I don't think anybody agrees with any organization 100%, but the people screaming about APAC, not a damn one of them talk about the Qataris. How interesting is that? Not one of them talk about it. You don't hear nothing from these people about the Qatari investment, number one donor. And you would think if you're going to be so upset about APAC, And I'm not defending AIPAC. I don't give a rat's ass. But I just think I do find the hypocrisy entertaining because you're going to complain about AIPAC. But then if you compare the money that these entities and these universities are getting from Qatar, it is not even it's a joke to even compare it. So why are they so silent? Why? Why all of the silence on the Qatar Qatari funding? Huh? I mean, again, Kane, I don't want to put my tinfoil hat on. But, you know, just saying, Occam's razor, you know. We have more on the way. We got Florida Man coming up as we move. Our partners that help bring you the program. Our friends over at Burn a Gun. It's always important. Look, I carry, I tell you this all the time, I carry, I have no problems using lethal force to protect myself and my loved ones. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. All right. So let's see. We've got. So yesterday we had the guy who was going 124 miles per hour and his excuse to the police was, well, I really had to go to the bathroom. Can you let me go? And they're like, that's not how this works. Well, another guy got in trouble for he was over 100 miles per hour. He was pulled over Michael Stanek. And when they said, why are you going over 100 miles per hour? And I think it was supposed to be like, what, 50, 45, 50, the speed, because I saw a different article. He said, well, you know, I'm late to my barber appointment. Now, gents, I'm feeling you as a lady. You know, I get the importance of it. I'm feeling you right now so hard. But you can't do that. The police did not accept that as an excuse. They're like, maybe you should have left earlier. You can't fly down the highway in like a 45, 50, over 100 miles per hour. So he got pulled over. He ended up getting he went he spent the night in jail and he bonded out of one hundred and fifty dollars. How do you spend the night at jail? Did they just, cause the body cam, they only released stills from the body cam footage and it still looked like it was daylight. So how did he not just get to bond out? Right? Like, can't you just bond? I don't know how the jail, you know, having never been arrested, I don't know how this works. Can't you just like bond out like immediately? Why would the hell would you stay the night in jail?
SPEAKER 05 :
I wonder if it has to do with how many miles per hour he was over the speed limit.
SPEAKER 16 :
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I say they obviously have not read their bill. This counterproposal that he filed, everybody can Google it, go pull it up, it's on the Senate's website and in the legislative text. Go to page 57 of Chuck Schumer's bill and look at section 2141. It says right there in plain language they want to repeal the health provisions of the one big beautiful bill.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hmm. Yeah. See, so don't know what they're getting all mad about. I mean, the truth is out. I mean, people aren't stupid. They understand this stuff. They know it. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley, that was Speaker Johnson, who was addressing some of that, saying that, yes, they're saying that it doesn't. Clearly, they haven't read their bill. And then you have this guy. What state is he from? This not Johnson, but this Sharif Thanadar. He is, because he's a, okay, he's out in Michigan. He admits it here. This is audio 7x14. He admits it that, okay, yeah, we decided to shut our government down over this. Listen, his own words.
SPEAKER 02 :
Returning back to Detroit this morning after the Republicans failed to show up in the U.S. House. We got to make sure Americans have the health care that they need. And if that means we got to shut this government down, so be it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hmm. Well, if they've got to shut the government down, then so be it. OK, well, thanks for admitting that. Thanks for playing. There you go. Thanks for playing. So they the I think one of the reasons that they're able to skirt on this misinformation is because they I mean, they they're they're protected. They get protected. I wanted to play this audio. I'm going to set it up for you. So this was yesterday we had the Pope blessing a block of ice. Now, this was a soundbite where he was weighing in on a cardinal's decision to honor Dick Durbin in the Senate. You know, very big time pro-abortion Senator Dick Durbin. Dick Durbin has been in the Senate for how long, Cain? Really long time. He's 35, 40 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want you to listen to what he says here. He was asked about this. Listen, this is the Pope's response. Listen.
SPEAKER 01 :
someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life. So someone who says that I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life. So they're very complex issues. I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them, but I would ask first and foremost that there be greater respect for one another and that we search together both as human beings, in that case as American citizens or citizens of the state of Illinois, as well as Catholics, to say we need to really look closely at all of these ethical issues and to find the way forward as church. Church teaching on each one of those issues.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I thought equating a violent offender who exercises free will to commit crimes that are so heinous that death is an option, an optional justifiable penalty to comparing that to an innocent baby and then to illegal immigrants is wildly illogical and intentionally deceptive. These are no, these are not difficult issues. These are not complex issues when you're being honest. There was a missed opportunity for the church with Robert Serra. Man alive. I like what my friend Seth Dillon said, because he goes, if you redefine pro-life to mean a defense of all life, guilty or innocent, then you make the principle so absolute and so expansive that it rules out every legitimate use of deadly force, including self-defense and just war, and that's immoral nonsense. And he's absolutely correct. The idea that you can compare a violent criminal who knowingly commits atrocities so heinous that the established penalty is death to compare that person who exercises their own free will to commit those atrocities to an infant who doesn't even understand that yet. That is illogical. It's disingenuous. And as Cain notes, that criminal earned his punishment. They are not comparable things. And the Bible is quite clear about penalties. I just was shocked that someone who is the vicar of Christ in the Catholic Church would make that argument. Like I said, what a missed opportunity with Robert Serra. Because I have a feeling that you wouldn't have heard Cardinal Serra say something like that at all whatsoever. He's pretty clear in his wording. And of course, this comes the day after he blessed a block of ice at a climate change event. That was what it was. And then he put his hand on the ice. And we played that yesterday. Blessed a block of ice at a climate change event. He had nothing really to say about Charlie Kirk. You have a time of massive Christian revival right now. And he's doing a climate change event and talking about this. How tone deaf. That's incredibly tone deaf. There was only one infallible person and that was Christ. Just... It just kind of shocks me. Can have that big ceremony about climate change, but you have someone who's literally martyred for faith and there's not really anything on that. I think that that speaks to a problem that a lot of churches have right now. We talked about that a few weeks ago. Still haven't found a new church yet, but we're ongoing. And we're Church of Christ, so it'll be Church of Christ. But the... idea that I just was shocked to hear that. Because they're two entirely different things. Two entirely different things. If the church is in trouble, it will be by its own hand. It will be. And these are grotesque. That comparison was so grotesquely oversimplified. And it's such a completely vastly different comparison. Variables that are being compared there. And like I said, these are not complex issues. You cannot compare the ending of an infant's life in utero to just capital punishment against someone who of their free will exercised behavior that caused such heinousness and such irreparable harm and ended someone else's life. Those are not things that you can compare. It's beyond. Man, Robert Sarah could have had could have had Pope Sarah. Well, that wouldn't have been his name. He'd have picked a different name. But, you know, our friends over at Relief Factor, a lot of people deal with inflammation. Doesn't matter if you're in your 20s or your 70s. It is a big deal in a lot of Americans' lives, and there's a way to manage that, to deal with it, so that it doesn't turn into, you're not dealing with aches and pains from unmanaged inflammation later on in life. So this is where Relief Factor comes in. With Relief Factor, if you want to manage everyday aches and pains, you can do it really affordable, and it's 100% drug-free as well. It helps to support your body's natural health. inflammatory response and it targets the inflammation that can keep you from doing the exercise that you need to do or enjoying the things that you love 100 drug free it's a research-based formula created to support a healthy response to inflammation and decrease discomfort from exercise aging whatever it is you can maintain healthy joints and muscles promoting better movement and less pain over time try relief factors three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's only 95 cents a day, less than a cup of coffee. Don't wait. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF to get your three-week quick start today for only $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I'm still trying to get over a Maxwell apartment. Because of Maxwell House Coffee, they're changing it from house to apartment. I'm not kidding you. You guys thought I was joking. Like, I already got two emails. And then I got a ton of messages. Are you serious? I think that's a meme. I swear to you, it's real. I told you no one was going to believe me. That's real. It's real. I'm not making it up to just, like, react to something. That's actually a real thing. Cain, I swear, swearsies. Oh, man. I'm not pulling your all's leg. I promise you. People were thinking, you're just saying that to react to it on social media. I swear, hands to sky, I'm not. That's a real, they are actually changing it to Maxwell Apartment. Okay, so even flow, ooh, even flow car seats. Who chokes on a car seat? So they're recalling 324,000 even flow car seats for a choking hazard. Apparently the kids can pick off the pieces of the foam and choke to death on them. It's not really made very well. If the baby can pick it apart and choke it up on its own seat. Maybe look into some other options. Let's see. Meta is going to sell targeted ads based on your data in your AI chats. Well, I don't have AI chats. I actually don't have any. The only chat I ever did was I asked AI to make a, like, what do you think I look like? And you know how that's when it made me be a tank with guns for arms. Not even kidding you. That was the only AI chat I had. So I don't, how is this going to work if you don't have that? TechCrunch reported on it. They said that Meta is going to sell targeted ads based on data in your AI chats. So they're updating its privacy policy to reflect this on December 16th, and they're collecting data from your interactions with its AI products, and that's how it's going. So I don't have any. It's not going to have anything to sell me.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're just going to use the old-fashioned way of just listening in.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they do that anyway. Do you know, sidebar, how I joke? Oh, I need to have my little thing. Hang on, hang on. I need to have my little Faraday envelope. So if I whisper, will it still hear me? So you know how I talked about like chicken pants like as a joke. Literally everything is about chickens and chicken coops and all kinds of stuff. Like chicken nonstop everything. That's all the ads show me. I made one joke about one video and from now on I'm just besieged by chicken stuff ads. Okay, back to normal. I'm not kidding you. I'm like terrified to talk about my phone. You say one thing and then it shows you a bunch of stupid ads that you don't want. All right. So a drone pilot was sentenced to jail and he's got one hundred fifty six thousand dollar fine after he literally collided with an L.A. firefighting plane. And the guy, this gets even crazier. Apparently, he was the co-founder and developer of Treyarch. That's the COD stuff. And now he's chief technologist or into chief technology at Skydance. Wow, he's a 57-year-old Peter Ackerman. He literally co-founded Call of Duty developer Treyarch. He flew his drone into a firefighting plane. So now he has to pay six figures in restitution, and he has to do 150 hours of community service supporting Southern California wildfire relief. They said he recklessly flew an aircraft into airspace where first responders were risking their lives. I will say... that it seems pretty easy to not hit a giant firefighting plane full of water, right? If you're a drone operator, I have a drone, and it just seems like it's easy to not hit big, giant stuff in a response zone. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that one seems a little bit like a cell phone. I got to be honest. And a mother electrocuted herself while holding her iPhone as it charged in the bath. So don't do that. This was in the UK. We have more on the way. Stick with us. Our partners that bring you the program. Patriot Mobile is the only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. That exists. And I'm going to tell you, people are out there canceling their Netflix accounts. Have you thought about canceling your existing cell phone provider and switching over to Patriot Mobile? Because if you haven't, you might as well just stay with Netflix because you're spending more money on that kind of stuff with your current mobile provider than you would by paying for a Netflix subscription. And those are hashtag facts. So with Patriot Mobile, Not only are you going to get the most reliable nationwide coverage with access to all three major U.S. networks, you're not compromising on quality for your values. You're enjoying flexible, unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming. I mean, I've used my service all over the world and I've never had an issue. It's so easy to switch. You don't have to go in and make a store visit. You can keep your phone and keep your number, and they can do fast activation by phone with their 100% U.S.-based support team. You can do it right from your sofa or your desk. It does not matter. Veterans and first responders receive 15% off their bill every month, but the kicker? is that you are not supporting the things that you vote against every time you go to the ballot box. You're not supporting DEI or CRT or gun control or any of this other nonsense. You're actually putting momentum behind the issues that are precious to you. And you're also supporting a company that... shares your views and is like-minded. And that's incredibly important because your money is your vote and it's a sign of support. So if you are canceling Netflix over a couple of shows that aren't even in production anymore and you're not switching your cell phone service provider, I can't really take you seriously. You got to switch today. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana. And when you use promo code Dana, you get a free month of service on top of all of it. Also call 972-PATRIOT. Get started today. Use promo code Dana to get free month of service. And veterans and first responders get 15% off monthly, every bill. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana. Promo code Dana. 972-PATRIOT.
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SPEAKER 21 :
In terms of health care, the reality is they're just not being honest. The amount of money that actually is going towards people who are undocumented is such a small portion of the Medicaid cuts or the Affordable Care Act, if at all. And so we can argue that point. But the reality that even you're just saying that it is that anyone who looks.
SPEAKER 16 :
So wait. The goalposts are moving. First, they said, no, no, no, no money is going towards them. And now they're like, well, just a small amount. Yes, hundreds of billions of dollars apparently is considered a small amount. I mean, this is the Federation for American Immigration Reform. In 2023, they found $66.4 billion that were spent on illegal aliens. And of those federal expenditures attributable to illegal aliens, they said it's staggering. It's an increase of 45% since 2017, and this is from 2023. So you're looking upwards of like $3,500 per illegal alien per year. in terms of money that they receive for free, taxpayer money for health care.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, the weird thing is it all started with, it's not happening. That's not happening at all. And then now here we are, step two, which they've cleared, which is, yeah, it's happening, but it's really not that big deal. Now it's going to be, oh, it's a good thing, actually. Actually, it's a good thing. We're almost there. That's coming. We're almost at that step.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, we're almost there. We're almost there. I wanted to share with you this story that I had that I wasn't able to get because I was trying to get this story open in our lawlessness and disorder. That's how I had it filed under this because I have some lawlessness and disorder. But this story, I don't know if you've heard of this. The guy's name is Courtney Boos. He's a 41-year-old man from Indianapolis. Now, I don't know. Let me just share with you, Cain, the mugshot. 41. Dude, 41 years old. So he was arrested on Monday because he stabbed a 69 year old man at a gas station in Indiana. The man was critically injured. It was about almost midnight per the Lawrence Police Department. Now, the reason why this story got so why it blew up. is because the guy was arrested. He had 100 priors. Actually, technically, it's approximately 99 times he has been arrested. He has other violent arrests. He's had drug crimes, theft, battery assault, all kinds of stuff. So, yeah, a lot of people are asking, how in the world is this guy... With that huge of a violent rap sheet. Why is this? What in the world? The guy stabbed his victim with a pocket knife and police found the bloodstained knife. They found bags of cocaine on him when he was arrested. And wow. I mean. This is I'm just trying to understand that is that's a lot of prior arrests. That is and he's he's had convictions, too. He's also you know, I mean, he's a repeat violent offender. He's a prohibited possessor. At some point, you have to ask yourself. Is it a justice system or is it a rewards program? Right. I just think about this. I just this is asinine. This is the system. So people like TPUSA get put on extremist list by groups that collude with the FBI under Biden Harris. This guy has approximately 99 arrests. He's got tons of different of other convictions, assault, battery, violent crimes. Oh, my gosh. This is restorative justice. This is how that Ukrainian woman, this is how people like that get stabbed to death on subways. It's just, this is, wow. And by the way, in Indiana, he apparently was arrested. He was, yeah, assault, battery, all kinds of stuff. In Memphis, this goes, I mean, I have a long list of people that have like 50 priors, etc. This guy stabbed a cop. I mean, I could sit here and we could finish out the rest of the show with this kind of stuff. Now, adding to the lawlessness and disorder, bike thefts at stations have been decriminalized. This is an actual story. This is in Britain now. So it's not just the United States. This is in Western nations where police are told to just accept start accepting crimes. The British Transport Police, they're not investigating bike thefts outside of stations anymore. Where any station where a bicycle has been left for more than two hours, they're not going to get involved. So and CCTV footage will not be looked at. Doesn't matter if you chain your bike up. Apparently, it's only a crime if it's within the two-hour window. So, yeah, the bike thefts will still happen, but the numbers will go down. And then they'll parrot that, like, oh, look, we were able to reduce crime with this, in this manner. We're able to reduce crime. The problem is that A lot of commuters will ride their bikes to the train station and then they chain them up with the expectation that that bike will be there to get them home when they return. Most people came a workday is typically longer than two hours. So you are not they pay taxes to support law enforcement. And politicians and the politicians now are telling law enforcement and the transport police over there, we're just not going to look at it anymore, so you're screwed.
SPEAKER 05 :
They pay so much in taxes, they can't afford a car.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is where we are, or where they are specifically.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just unbelievable. But this is, wow. And by the way, they're appointed, so the people who... The British Transport Police are apparently appointed by their Secretary of State for Transport over there. So it's like our Department of Transportation guy over here. So they appoint them. But they're decriminalizing it. So it's not a crime. So long as you wait outside that two-hour period, those are bikes, free bikes. Now, how do they even know? Here's the other thing. How do they know whether or not they're left outside for more than two hours? They said they're not even going to look at CCTV footage. How do they even know? So the majority of bike thefts now, they said commuters, there's thousands of commuters that do this every day. That will take the train in the UK every day. And the British Transport Police said the more time our officers spend reviewing CCTV, the less time they have for patrolling stations, etc. Oh, my gosh. They were interviewing, the BBC was interviewing some of these people who said they repeatedly had bikes stolen. So they just get, you know, cheap. crappy bikes because they get stolen and then it's kind of it's a hardship when they get back when they commute back home they get on the train and they get back to the platform and they have no way to get home so they have to figure out how they're going to get back to their you know it's either a very very long walk or they got to figure out you know a ride to get back home that's that's insane That's crazy. But this is lawlessness and disorder. And then they wonder what they'll arrest you for a tweet. But screw your bike or your property. They will literally arrest you if you make fun of someone over in the UK. They will absolutely arrest you. If you make a joke like that one 13 year old girl did about a female officer looking like a lesbian and her grandmother was a lesbian and she just said that they both had short hair and that was it. And they came to the house to arrest her. Insane. Insane. They can't help stop child trafficking in Rotherham over there when you have Pakistani grooming gangs that forcibly, they take these young girls and they force them into human trafficking. They won't look at that. They're not going to do anything. Good heavens. It's just horrible. The EV tax credit is dead. Ooh, what does that mean? There's a really interesting piece over legal insurrection that gets into it. But yes, it's all about free market now. It's official. The EV tax credit is gone. This greeny fever dream. And the tax and spending packages that was passed, and this is from AP, passed in early July, brought an early end to the federal EV tax credits, $7,500 for new electric vehicles, $4,000 for used ones. And the credits end September 30th. Buyers will have to have a binding contract in place even if the vehicle is delivered later. So sales of EVs actually increased. according to Cars Commerce. They said that vehicles under $25,000, the ones that are potentially eligible, those were the ones that were selling quickly. And Tesla had a surprise gain, according to Bloomberg. I noticed this as well. But a lot of these vehicles, though, were beyond that tax credit. So that was kind of an interesting little outlier there. But this EV market, this is not free market. Not a free market structure or scheme at all. And I'm just, you know, I'm kind of wondering, all of the automakers, this is a piece from Reuters that discusses how the end of the EV tax subsidy sparks worries of a collapse in U.S. electric car sales. We'll just make better cars. If you make good cars and the market likes it, the market will buy it. How in the hell are people not understanding cause and effect and supply and demand? Oh, my gosh. This they were there and they're there. They're saying, oh, my gosh, we're bracing for freefall. And remember, all these companies, because Biden was threatening to make everything electric powered by whatever, they were moving to replace the traditionally fueled vehicles, which, by the way, that stuff is never the periodic table proves that that stuff is never going to be depleted. It's always replenishing the stuff that makes the stuff is from the earth. Stop. All of these manufacturers were rushing to replace that with EVs that nobody wanted to buy. And so you had, who was the Japanese carmaker that was like, we're done with this. We're not doing the EV anymore. Was it Nissan? I can't remember. Yeah, one of them were like, we're done with this. We're done flirting around with this. So they said that they're bracing. If you make a good vehicle, it's going to sell. End of. Juan says it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't wasn't Toyota. One of them, they they decided to stop experimenting with it because their cars weren't moving. If they make good vehicles, they'll sell like people bought the Cybertrucks because they looked like a child's drawing. And then people bought the electric Hummer because it could do the crab walk. Right. So I don't I don't know. But I don't think it's going to be a collapse of them as long as they're they're good made vehicles. They're well made. People are going to buy them. I just don't like EVs.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, people are now seeing the replacement batteries they have to put in there at 12, 15,000, $16,000 to do this. You could get a car for that or less.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, in many instances, they're more expensive than the damn car itself or as expensive. It's insane. People can't afford that right now. You can't have taxpayers prop up a market or prop up an industry. The industry has to be able to compete on its own merit. And if they can't, then that's not the fault of anybody, but the market's not ready for it. Or maybe it's just not a good product. Maybe the timing isn't right. I mean, all of these things factor into it. You can't force it. by demanding that taxpayers prop it up. Because if there's any kind of change, then guess what? All of the house of cards falls down. So if you go and subscribe to my Substack, chapter and verse, one of the things that I'm going to link over is this piece that I've been reading about. And we've talked about this before with Stephen Yates and Taiwan and chip manufacturing. And I know one of the things that POTUS has said is that they're going to try to energize that production here domestically. It's something that we absolutely have to do. But this is a great piece that dives into... the battle for freedom and democracy within the context of AI with these chips as well, with semiconductors. And the thinking, I mean, when you look at it, because Taiwan is the monopoly, I think what, 92% of the world's advanced semiconductor chips are TSMC. So this is, How do we have an American semiconductor manufacturing company? Because Taiwan has a monopoly on it. And we like Taiwan. But the problem is they're 110 miles from the coast of China. China thinks that they're part of them. And this gets into not just A.I., but A.G.I. And, you know, what happens if, you know, ultimately, you know, just imagine if Taiwan was somehow compromised, what that means. That's like, again, such a. When they make of all of the global semiconductors, I think the Arena Magazine says it's like roughly 67% dominates the advanced node sector. It's all used to power the latest AI models. And if you want AI to favor democracy and individual rights, you have to fight who... These chips in the manufacturing and the energy for it, etc, etc. All of this gets into controlling the future of AI. And there is one of the reasons why you see these authoritarian governments that are spending tons of money on this. And I think it's really a huge reason why China wants still wants to maintain Taiwan as well. And as the. The there's a lot of preventative measures that can be taken. It's something we'll talk more about with Steve Yates. But this is a fascinating deep dive into it. And it looks at all the manufacturing. It looks at the infrastructure, absolutely everything. And and also to build these manufacturing facilities, what it requires, like more than just a 20 billion dollar check just to turn the lights on. To create, I mean, is insane. And then I'm not even getting into the regulatory approval of all of, I mean, I'm like still scrolling through all the requirements for that. The bureaucracy is insane. So this is, I'm going to link this in. It's a really good read. And I would highly encourage you to check it out because this is, I think, one of the most important topics. ever one of the i think it's the most probably the most important topic of our time right now and it seems like it's so far off and it seems very abstract but it's not and literally the future of freedom is at stake with this and and people don't realize it you know we joke about ai and we make memes and all this stuff but um this is the fight for the future is already happening and it's in within ai uh and the manufacturing all of that came today in stupidity
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Juan, this is cut 22. And Dana, if I were to ask you, when you talk about socialism, what does it always graduate to?
SPEAKER 16 :
Communism. Marxism. Full tyranny.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. Let's hear this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Number one, he's attacking you as a communist, are you?
SPEAKER 21 :
No, I'm a democratic socialist. That means I believe in dignity for all people. Okay, that's so stupid.
SPEAKER 16 :
Democrat socialist is only different from socialist in that they're both turds and then you put glitter on one. That's the Democratic Socialist.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mom Downey's Socialism.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's how that works. That's what that means. Folks, that does it for us today. Find us over at Substack, chapter and verse. And then you can also find us on YouTube and Facebook. Like and subscribe. I will be back with you to finish out the week tomorrow. Have a great evening.

In a special segment, we turn our focus internationally, examining the recent tragic attack on a synagogue in Manchester, England. As anti-Semitic violence continues to rise, Tony discusses the broader implications with expert guests. Meanwhile, the controversial Bible Access List is introduced by Ken Bitgood, shedding light on the scarcity of scriptures in nations worldwide, tying in the desperate need for spiritual resources amid political strife in places like Syria. Don't miss updates on the upcoming PrayVoteStand Summit, calling believers to rally for cultural transformation and spiritual revival.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Welcome, everybody, to day two of the Democrat shutdown. Let's make absolutely clear what's happening here. Real pain is being inflicted upon the American people because 44 Democrats in the Senate have voted for the third time to reject the completely nonpartisan, completely clean, very simple 24-page continuing resolution.
SPEAKER 03 :
That was House Speaker Mike Johnson saying Democrats made the selfish and reprehensible decision to shut down the government. Welcome to this October 2nd edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host. Thanks for tuning in. Well, coming up, the Democrat-led shutdown enters day two. Now, what does that mean for everyday Americans? And where do we go from here? Missouri Senator Josh Hawley will join me to break it all down. And Bibles are pretty easy to get here in the United States, but not around the world. A new report shows where access is hardest and that need the greatest. Ken Bitgood, founder of the Digital Bible Society, will join me later to explain. One day, 17 hours and four minutes into the shutdown, and Republican leaders blame Democrat demands for funding the illegal immigrants for the stalemate. House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and House Speaker Mike Johnson insist Democrats must choose Americans over taxpayer-funded benefits for illegal aliens and reopen the government now. Joining me is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper. Casey, what are you hearing about how this shutdown is actually affecting everyday Americans?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, well, Tony, first of all, our troops and Border Patrol agents, they're required to work with pay being held until the government reopens. And about 750,000 federal workers, they've been told don't come into work at all. Now, this all has left many asking the question, how is this going to affect the economy and everyday Americans? The U.S. government shutdown has hit the brakes on the flow of federal economic data at a moment of uncertainty. But if history is any guide, the shutdown itself is unlikely to have a lasting impact on the U.S. economy. Part of the reason for that is that most of the previous 20 shutdowns have been short, lasting about a week or less. They are a headache for the Federal Reserve, especially now as policymakers seek clarity on the jobs market and inflation. Those policymakers won't get the monthly jobs report and other data until the government reopens. They have to rely on private surveys, which are sometimes viewed as a poor proxy for the government data. The Fed cut interest rates last month for the first time since December because of growing concern about the job market. Financial markets see a near certainty of another rate cut at the central bank's next meeting this month. However, Shana Sissel, the Bonnerian Capital Management founder and CEO, says this shutdown could impact that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I do think the lack of economic data of some of the larger economic data points that the Fed pays attention to could delay the Fed from cutting further.
SPEAKER 20 :
Meanwhile, even though hundreds of thousands of federal workers are on furlough and a range of important government services are suspended, shutdowns themselves don't typically move the needle long term for the economy. It depends on what's happening around the shutdown. Stocks did take a hit during the last shutdown in 2018, but rebounded quickly, according to Robert Konzo, CEO and Managing Director of the Wealth Alliance.
SPEAKER 02 :
Last one was during the Trump era was 35 days from December of 18 to January of 19. The market dropped, and it started a week before the actual shutdown. So there's a lot of anticipation. Dropped around 15%, then quickly came back and rose past that. Typically, there's headline risk, market drop, but then they typically come back.
SPEAKER 20 :
So, Tony, the takeaway here is if Democrats get their act together and come to the table, this won't be too big of a problem. But if they prolong this shutdown, it could disrupt air travel and food assistance for millions of Americans. So it's a big issue. But I do want to make clear that those who are receiving Social Security payments will still receive their checks, Tony.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Well, the shutdown will we know will continue at least until tomorrow when the Senate next convenes to address the issue. I want to turn now very quickly to a sad story. Security was tight outside synagogues in New York City. This Yom Kippur following a deadly attack at a synagogue in Manchester, England. Casey, what's the latest on the story out of England?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, that's right, Tony. Police have increased security outside of these New York City synagogues on this holiest day of Yom Kippur in the Jewish calendar. And as you pointed out, this heightened security follows a deadly attack in Manchester, England, where a man drove into this crowd outside of a synagogue, got out of the car and started stabbing those in the crowd. This happened during the Yom Kippur services. Here's the British head of counterterrorism, Lawrence Taylor.
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And based on what we know, counterterrorism policing has declared this as a terrorist incident. Our specialist teams are now leading the investigation into what happened at Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue and working closely with Greater Manchester Police. As we do this, those who have been killed and injured are at the forefront of our minds.
SPEAKER 20 :
So the suspect was shot dead by police. Two people were tragically killed. four others injured, and two more arrests have been made, Tony.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, Casey, that's one of the reasons we continue to track these attacks. It appears that we're talking about one of these almost every day, either a church or a synagogue. And in fact, it is almost every day. That's why we do our church hostility report to keep people updated. So we can also encourage and work with lawmakers to provide greater protections and raise awareness to this. All right, Casey, thanks so much for joining us. We're going to catch up with you a bit later with a lot of other stories to break down in our D-block session. So we'll be looking forward to you joining us then. I want to go on to the shutdown and what is happening, how this is going to affect Americans and how are we going to get out of this? Joining us now by phone, U.S. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri. He serves on several Senate committees, including the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pension. He joins us by phone. Senator Hawley, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, I know the Senate is out, the House is out today at Yom Kippur, but the Senate returns tomorrow. Now, two Democrat senators and an independent voted for the House CR yesterday. That's up from one Democrat on Tuesday's vote. But another five are needed to get this, the 60 votes that are needed. What's going to happen?
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't know the answer to that, Tony, and I hope that the Democrats will end this because it's just absurd. I mean, what they're doing is just absurd and harmful to real people, as you were just reporting. When I think about the military servicemen and women who won't get paid here in a few weeks. if this continues that long. I don't understand what the Democrats are doing, other than the fact that they don't like the president. They hate President Trump. They hate the fact that he won the election. They don't want to work with him. But elections have consequences, Tony, and he's the duly elected president. And this childish fit that they're throwing, and basically refusing to go to work, shutting down the government so nobody's working, taxpayers are still paying their taxes. People are still needing the services they pay for. So I just think it's ridiculous. It needs to end as quickly as possible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is this playing to the benefit of their base, showing their base that they're willing to take on Donald Trump and shut down the government?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I think it is. I mean, think about that. I mean, just think about the moral equation there. We will shut down the government, deny pay to our military men and women. I mean, they say they want to increase health care access. Good luck with that. Pretty soon members of the military won't be able to buy groceries, let alone be able to go see a doctor. The Veterans Affairs, I mean, listen, all VA hospitals soon are going to have limited services if this goes on because of what the Democrats are doing. And yet their calculation is, well, maybe we'll score some political points off of this. I mean, are you kidding me? It's outrageous. It needs to end immediately.
SPEAKER 03 :
What's your sense? Is this carryover into next week? Is this a week-long shutdown? Is it two weeks? How long do you think before the Democrats will realize they've got to end this?
SPEAKER 21 :
I just don't have any idea because I think it really depends on how long these far-left groups that are pushing them, pressing them, prodding them into this self-destructive behavior, how long they keep at it. I mean, really what's happening is These Democrat leaders, these elected officials, are getting pushed off of the cliff by their own radical base who's threatening to run ads against them and all the rest. And they need to have some guts to stand up and say, no, this is wrong. This is the wrong thing for the country. This is the wrong thing to do for the American people, and we're not going to go along with it. But right now, Tony, they're in for it hook, line, and sinker. And, you know, they've got it. It's their decision. I mean, there's no negotiation to be had here because there's nothing to negotiate on. We're talking about reopening the government.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. They want more money for health care, for illegals, for abortion funding. And, you know, hopefully the Republicans are not going to give it to them. I've talked to the House speaker. The House is not moving on this. And I hope the Senate is not going to move either. So they're not there at the end of the day, whenever they come to their senses, they're not going to gain anything by this shutdown.
SPEAKER 21 :
No, it's just going to hurt people. And I tell you, the other thing they want is they want to restore all of that funding for transgender operas in Peru and transgender comic books in Colombia and condoms in Gaza. I mean, I'm not making this stuff up. Everything that the Trump administration froze, right, they want to put back into place. It's absurd.
SPEAKER 03 :
We just have a few minutes left, Senator. I want to switch topics to another issue came up today. In fact, you posted on it on X. That was the first I saw. Then I dug into it. The FDA quietly on right before at the 11th hour before the government shut down, the FDA quietly approved a new generic version of the abortion drug Mifeprestone. Now, this drug being a generic is actually going to drop the price and only going to fuel more pro-life states being invaded by states like New York and California with these abortion pills coming across the state lines through the mail.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I don't understand at all what the FDA is doing here, Tony, at all. This application for this new drug has been pending for four years. Joe Biden's FDA didn't approve it. The FDA is supposed to be doing a safety study of the chemical abortion drug. And rather than that, they just approved a new one. I mean, I'm incredibly disheartened by this. I can't imagine what the rationale is. The FDA needs to reverse course immediately and put back into place all of the safety guardrails that were in place when President Trump was in office before. Those were terrific guardrails. The FDA needs to get with the program. I can only assume that these are bureaucrats completely run amok here, but whatever. It needs to be reversed. This is really outrageous.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, again, the timing of this right before government shut down, when all this stuff stops, they get this across the line. As you said, it's been in the process for four years. They they approve it at the 11th hour before government shutdown. And it's in the midst of what's supposed to be a study looking at the harms of this pill, this drug to to women. It doesn't add up. It really doesn't.
SPEAKER 21 :
We've seen two major independent studies just in the last few months that show that one in ten women who take the chemical abortion drug develop major, serious health risks, like trips to the emergency room, hemorrhaging, really serious stuff. That's why the FDA promised me, promised other senators, promised the public they would do a top-to-bottom review of this drug. But to now not do that, but instead say, actually, you know what, let's go ahead and prove another abortion drug, put it out on the market, is inexplicable to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have you reached out to the FDA?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I have, and believe me, they know what my position is on this. I've communicated with them about this review multiple times. All I've seen is their official statement, which just says, well, basically we had to approve it. I don't understand that at all. I don't understand why now, and I don't understand why this review is not the top priority. People are literally dying of this, women, not to say nothing of the children, the babies who are killed by it. I just am completely baffled by this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I appreciate you, Senator, continuing to speak out on the life issue. I think it is one of those fundamental issues that we absolutely have to get right. And there's policies from the Biden administration left over that need to be changed. Senator Josh Hawley, always great to talk with you. Thanks so much for joining us. All right, folks, you can weigh in on this as well. Text the word LIFE to 67742. That's LIFE to 67742. We are about to finalize our petition going to the administration on this very topic. So text LIFE to 67742. All right, a lot more coming up on this edition of Washington Watch. So stay right there. We're going to be right back after these messages.
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Three years ago, the Supreme Court issued its historic Dobbs decision, a ruling that overturned Roe versus Wade, which for nearly 50 years imposed abortion on demand, silencing voters and bypassing the democratic process across the country. The Dobbs decision was a huge step forward against abortion, but it didn't outright ban it. It returned the power to the people. Now, 29 states have laws on the books protecting life. However, there's a catch. Abortion numbers since Dobbs have actually gone up with an increase of 12% since 2020, climbing from 930,000 to over 1 million in each of the most recent years. So how can this be? The answer is simple, the abortion drug. Today, over 60% of U.S. abortions involve abortion drugs, many of these without medical oversight. In 2021, the Biden administration quietly removed bare minimum longstanding safety protocols for the abortion drug that have existed for 20 years to protect women from life-threatening risks and ensuring informed consent. The Biden DOJ then declared that they would not enforce the Comstock Act, which prevents the mailing of anything that causes an abortion. This is not only illegal, but also dangerous. A study shows nearly 11% of women who take the abortion drug end up in the emergency room with serious complications. Unless the Trump administration reverses these reckless Biden-era policies, pro-life laws will remain largely symbolic. Without a full review and repeal of Mifepristone, unborn lives will remain in grave danger and pregnant mothers will remain at risk. Let's stand for life and end this mail-order abortion drug pipeline. Sign the petition urging the Trump administration to take action at frc.org slash stop chemical abortion.
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All right. Welcome back to this Thursday edition of Washington Watch. And in about two weeks, we are going to be gathering at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in Southern California for the PrayVote Stand Summit. And there's still room for you. And I would encourage you to join us October 17th and 18th at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, Pastor Jack's church. We're going to have a gathering of folks from across the country, and we're going to pray, pray for cultural and spiritual revival. And we're going to be learning how we can take a stand in this culture at this time. It's a very critical time. So to find out more and to register, go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. All right, we talked a few times about this in the last couple of months. It's the Druze religious minority in Syria. Now, they have been in a portion of the country, Sweden. It's a province in the southern part, and it's been semi-autonomous. And while many Druze were initially open to working with the new government that stepped in following the toppling of the brutal Assad regime last year, the violence that broke out this past July has changed a lot of minds. And now a de facto military and government-like body has been set up in Sueda as some call for succession. They're afraid. In fact, they want to come in alignment with Israel. It's a very interesting dynamic there. How do we sort through all this? But joining me now to discuss this and more is Ahmad Sarawi. He is a research analyst for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, whose focus is on the Middle East. Ahmad, thanks so much for joining us here on Washington Watch. Thank you for having me. Now, there's a lot to unpack in that introduction, but things are in trouble in Syria. And part of it, the Druze minority, which there's also a large Druze population in Israel, and they're in trouble. What do we see developing there as a way for them to have security and safety?
SPEAKER 01 :
Sure. I mean, just let me start off by saying that the Druze community in Soweda was attacked back in July by government forces and Arab Sunni Bedouin forces or tribesmen. What started as a localized clash became more of an attack that led to the death of more than a thousand. What we're seeing right now is more calls for independence and autonomy from the Druze in Soweda because they've lost all their trust, all the trust they had in the government in Damascus. They see that the government has failed to protect them against the onslaught. And so they're... I mean, they feel that they're in danger being part of the state, and that's why they're calling for secession.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is not new from a standpoint of northeast Syria. You had Christians, Muslims, and other religious minorities forming a government up there a number of years ago. And so Syria is very fractured and probably works better as a— You have semi-autonomous governments, but they want to be totally extracted from the Syrian government. Is that the understanding?
SPEAKER 01 :
So the Kurds in northeast Syria, the Syrian Democratic Forces is a military coalition that is a U.S. partner in counterterrorism against the Islamic State. And since 2015, since that body was formed, they've created some sort of autonomous body where they have local governance over three of Syria's provinces. Ever since the fall of the Assad regime, they've been in active negotiations with the government in Damascus about how they want to integrate. They're calling for a decentralized political system in which they can maintain their local governing authorities and structures, but still be part of the overall state. So that's not necessarily independence or separation, but they're seeing some sort of localized autonomy. Unfortunately, they agreed on a plan back in March. The implementation of the plan has been very slow. We saw a lot of tensions and problems arise over the past few months, again, all going back to some of the violent episodes that Syria has experienced over the past 10 months, be it the violence in the south against the Druze or the violence in the coast against the Alawites. And so the Kurds are asking for more, let's say, guarantees, constitutional guarantees from the Syrian government in order to agree to integrate. Until now, as I stated, things have been slow and tensions have been rising. We're seeing some clashes between Kurdish forces against the government forces. And I mean, there's a lot of indicators that this might escalate into a bigger conflict anytime soon.
SPEAKER 03 :
So are we headed back to another civil war in Syria?
SPEAKER 01 :
I wouldn't say that right now. Again, Syria remains fractured. There's a lot of mistrust, or there's a lack of trust in the new government. Of course, the new government is run by Ahmad al-Sharra, who was a former al-Qaeda commander under the name Abu Muhammad al-Julani. And that's why a lot of these ethnic minorities are hesitant and reluctant to trusting the new government in Damascus. Adding to that is that he's seeking to centralize power. He is giving himself more constitutional rights. He's the one who selects the ministers, and he selects one-third of the Syrian parliament. And so there's a lot of these powerful groups in Syria are very hesitant and are very critical of the moves he's taking. In terms of moving on to another civil war, I think we're seeing smaller violent episodes. Now, of course, anything can trigger a wide scale civil war. But Syria is still there's still a lot of instability in Syria. The economy is not doing well.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, Ahmad, we just have about a minute left. So what is the way forward for Syria to bring stability to that region?
SPEAKER 01 :
So I think one necessary step that the new president, Ahmad al-Sharra, needs to take is to give other segments of the Syrian population a say in the political process. As I stated, he's seeking to centralize as much power as he can, and he's sidelining all other groups. And that's not a way of building a stable state. He's seeking international legitimacy and normalization from the U.S. and other European actors in order to get more sanctions relief and to get more investments and money inside the country. But he needs to work on the domestic political system. He needs to give minorities a voice. He needs to ensure their participation in the process in order for them to feel that they can live in a secure Syria
SPEAKER 03 :
And he's got to do that quickly. I mean, it's a powder keg there. Ahmad, we're out of time. I want to thank you for joining us. Very complicated situation and only seems to be getting worse. All right, don't go away. More Washington Watch straight ahead.
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This is Washington Watch, website TonyPerkins.com. Hope you have the Stand Firm app. Go to the app store, get the Stand Firm app. You can listen to Washington Watch no matter where you go. You also, as I've said before, have access to our news and commentary from a biblical perspective, the Washington Stand, and you'll have access to my daily devotional, Stand on the Word, our Bible, Journey Through the Bible. So all of that can be found at in the App Store on the Stand Firm app. Speaking of the Bible, you know, living in America where getting a hold of a Bible isn't difficult. I mean, you get one online. I mean, they're everywhere. But we can easily forget how access to the Bible is not universal. There are many people around the world that cannot get access to a Bible. In fact, in some places it's illegal, other places there's just a scarcity. Well, a new coalition of Bible agencies and mission organizations have published its landmark assessment of Bible access in 88 nations across the world. And it identifies where access to the Bible is most restricted and where, as I mentioned, the other list they have is where shortages among believers is the greatest. So what are the takeaways from the Bible Access List? Joining me now to discuss this is Ken Bitgood. He's the founder and CEO of the Digital Bible Society, a founding member of the Bible Access Initiative, which published the Bible Access List, which was released today. Ken, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. It's such an honor to be with you. We appreciate your passion for the Word and having us on this list. You're having a little bit of technical difficulty you make here. I'm hearing some background speech, but I'm just grateful to be able to talk with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let's talk about the list. You've got two lists. One focuses on where it's difficult because of government restrictions. Talk about that first.
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So what's happened is there's been a coalition of many organizations now, led by Open Doors International and Digital Bible Society, now with Bible League International, Bible League of Canada. Many organizations have brought together research. largely taken initially from the world watch list that shows the most difficult nations in the world it is to be a Christian. Now we're able, through years of research, to show where Scripture is most restricted by nation of the world. We're grateful to be here today at Bible League International where we've launched this list, and we're seeing the hardest nations in the world where it is to get the Bible. That's the first place. And the second, as you've mentioned, is where the shortage of Bibles is greatest. Lord, I pray for those that are on.
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Let's talk about this first. Let's talk about the place where access is restricted. Ken, what what what is the hope by bringing awareness to this? What is the hope of this coalition of organizations?
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Well, the hope is that people will, first of all, take notice and begin praying for these nations. There are many, many new believers coming in places like Somalia and Eritrea, Yemen and Iran, where it's extraordinarily difficult for people to get Bibles. Our prayer is, our hope is, is that awareness is raised, that people will be more focused and more vigorously, not just on praying, but in supporting the initiatives that are bringing God's word into these most difficult nations.
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It's certainly something that we need to be praying about. But then there's the issue of scarcity. And I think, Ken, the purpose here in drawing attention to this, this is something we can actually do. This is places that we can get the Bible into, but we just need the resources and the focus commitment. So, Ken, what's the plan when it comes to these areas where there's the scarcity?
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Well, interestingly enough, many organizations now have seen the great need in some of the scarce, the most restricted nations, and are actually turning focus now upon those areas to ensure that there's greater Bibles that are made available into those. And those can be Bibles in print. They can be audio. They can be Bibles in forms of media, such as videos and so forth. But that there is now a shift that's happening in many of the great Bible agencies. As I mentioned, I'm here at Bible League International, where this has become a clarion call for them to turn their focus and their resources in that direction.
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So how can people find out more and join in this effort, not only praying in it, but also supporting?
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This is a great question, and thank you for asking that. So there's a new website that got published today. It's called bibleaccesslist.org that lists these nations, answering these two issues, where restrictions are tightest, and also answering the question where the shortage is greatest. There's also a list of about a dozen ministries who've joined in this coalition and are turning now their focus on the nations where this need is. It's quite easy for people who are praying or ready to give or ready to partner, ready to go into these countries. It's pretty simply just to contact us directly on the list. Contact any of the dozen or so ministries now that are joining in this coalition for a focused effort to ensure that God's word goes into these nations.
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Oh, powerful and exciting. Ken Bittgood, thanks so much for joining us today. I appreciate this, not only the information, but just appreciate the effort that's being put into this.
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And we really want to thank you and your listeners for your passion for God's Word and your stand for so long for our nation. We're so grateful for you and all the work you've done.
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Thank you, Ken. Appreciate that. Folks, check out the website. I recall when the wall came down in Eastern Europe, I was able to give some Bibles to police officers and members of the military that had been in some of the Eastern Bloc countries. And just to see the power of that. And I don't have time to go into the stories, but life changing to see that. the power of the gospel and how there's the hunger and the thirst in many parts of the world. We just don't understand. All right, don't go away. We've got more coming up right after this.
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Thank you, Tony.
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All right. I want to go back to where we started, Casey. Government shutdown. It's not the first. What do we know about the shutdown and the impact on the average American? How long before people begin to feel something?
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Yeah, I mean, if by some miracle they're able to resolve this in the Senate vote tomorrow, I think it will be a blip on the radar, but that doesn't appear likely now. And if this goes on, we will see some real effects. For instance, if you're planning a visit to some national parks or a Smithsonian here in D.C., you might rethink that. They may not be open when you arrive. And then a more serious implication would be if our soldiers and Border Patrol agents and other federal workers, others involved, There are millions of federal workers. I mean, there's 2.1 million federal workers and 1.3 million service members who are going to not get their paychecks on October 15th unless the Senate acts before then. Now, there are ways that these people can get back pay, but I will say federal contractors, they are not guaranteed back pay at the same way that other federal workers are.
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And so, Travis, your sense in terms of the – A resolution and what is standing in the way. Now, we're hearing from the Republicans. This is about the Democrats wanting about a one point five trillion increase. That would be an expansion for Obamacare subsidies that are about to expire. Talk about that for a moment.
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Yeah, I mean, Tony, folks may remember the saga of Obamacare years ago and the issue of its funding of abortion. And that's still the case with these subsidy extenders that we're talking about today, which are the obstacle, the sticking point. Democrats are insisting on them, but no one should be insisting on using the tax dollars to fund abortion. And that's what we're talking about here. So that's why we're opposed to that. We're concerned about it. And we shouldn't do it. If the Democrats would agree to a clean CR, meaning no funding of those extenders, I don't think we'd have an issue. But that's really one, if not the major issue standing in the way here.
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My sense is they're not going to get it in conversations I've had with leaders on the Hill. And so at some point in time, they're just going to have to fold and agree to a clean CR. And what are they going to have? They're not going to have anything but, you know, a lot of people that are going to be upset over a government shutdown.
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Yeah, I think that's true.
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All right. I want to move on to another topic. Casey, you touched on this at the top of the program, and that was the attack in Manchester, England. Give us the latest on this and what we know so far. Sure. This is a tragic attack.
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And as you said, it's hard to keep track of all these violent incidents. But this is actually not the first attack of this kind to happen in Manchester, England. And the authorities there are calling it a terrorist attack. So a man on Yom Kippur, which is the Day of Atonement, a high holy day, you could call it, for the Jewish faith, This guy drove into a crowd, and then he jumped out of the car and started stabbing people. Two people have died. Four more are injured. So far, at the time that we started this recording, they were still alive and in the hospital being taken care of. And then I read reports that they ran inside, locked the doors, and then police came about seven minutes later and shot this guy. And actually, just breaking news, Tony, and I'd love to get your reaction to this. It's In some ways it's poetic, in other ways it's very sad, but they release the name of the suspected shooter, or the suspected killer, stabber, and he is a British citizen of Syrian descent, and his name is allegedly Jihad al-Shammi.
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You know, this goes back. There's several issues here. And I'm going to bring you in here in a moment, Travis. But Casey invoked my name to ask me to get me to say something. This is the issue that the president even talked about. President Donald Trump talked about in his message at the U.N., about how Europe is in such a mess because they don't have borders, and they're letting everyone flow across their borders, and they're coming in not to become a part of that society, but to tear the society down. And that's the same problem we have here in the United States. I'm all about immigrants coming in, as long as they want to be a part of the American family. And, I mean, they can bring in differences, but they've got to integrate in and become a part of what makes America great. And a part of that is our unique foundation, what happens to be Judeo-Christian. And if you're coming in to destroy that— Guess what? You're not welcome. And I think that's what the president was saying, is that you've got to maintain your identity and your immigration policy is one of the key ways that that's done. Travis, this issue, this attack in the UK, yes, another attack on a religious gathering, but it's also more of the anti-Semitism that we see rising. When I chaired the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, that was one of the hearings I hosted on Capitol Hill, or I chaired on Capitol Hill, was the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. And that was five years ago, six years ago. It is a major problem.
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Tony, totally. As I was talking to a European leader the other day who we're hosting in Washington for some strategic meetings, and she was relating to me how they are confronting this and they don't, she doesn't know in her opinion if they're past the window of opportunity to address the impact on that discussion caused by high levels of immigration from Islamic countries. And I stress that word because, again, it's not about, as you said earlier, someone coming from a certain country. Take the point about Syria. We've been trying to address, as you know, the religious freedom conditions for Jews and Christians in Syria. This man was from Syria. That doesn't mean I know others from Syria who are peace loving and want to integrate the point is, though, from what it appears now, the reporting now, this guy was driven by Islamic ideology. That's the point. So we have to remember that in terms of what we're dealing with in Syria and, Tony, the impact of that on countries in the West who've historically enjoyed freedom. The issue is front and center right now. The assault on Western civilization is manifesting in attacks on Jewish and Christian communities and places of worship.
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And The Jews may be first, but they're not the last that will be attacked. Christians are next. We see that all across the country, all across the world, but we see it even here in our own country. Sticking with the Middle East, I touched on this topic, gentlemen, yesterday with Pastor Jack Hibbs just at the tail end of our conversation. But as the war in the Middle East continues between Israel and its enemies, new polling shows that young evangelicals are now very much less likely to support Israel than their parents. Casey, break down those numbers for us.
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Sure, Tony, I'll try to keep it brief here, but top line, the poll found that about half of evangelicals say they do believe the Jews are God's chosen people. But when you look at people below the age of 35, it drops down to less than a third. Only 29% of respondents below the age of 35 agree that the Jews are God's chosen people. By contrast, you know, half of respondents between over the age of 35 up to 44 say the same, that Jews are God's chosen people. As the respondents get older, they get more supportive. But one thing that's also really important and worth pointing out here is that coinciding with this, that those below the age of 35, 26% of them explicitly endorsed replacement theology. So, and then another 26% said they do not know. And I think that's a really interesting point here is there's a lot of people who they have strong views, maybe against CIGIO or for, but there's a huge group of young people who they just don't have a conviction on the CIGIO and they haven't been taught.
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Okay. So that last point, um, In fact, after the program last night, I got some emails from people saying, yes, I'm experiencing this myself. My children, my adult children are not pro-Israel, but they grew up in a Christian home and so on and so on. So I actually began working on something this morning on this. The reality is it goes back to biblical teaching because I think in that survey, it said people want to know there's really kind of two major doors you can go through addressing Israel. One is what the Bible says about Israel and then the prophetic role that Israel has in the end times. People are interested in those two areas. And frankly, there's not a lot of teaching on it.
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Yeah, and I think that's really the point here. Obviously, I'm a little bit younger, and I have a lot of millennial and Gen Z friends, and I think a problem, a strategic mistake that's been made is when good faith, honest questions are asked about Israel, the answers that come are not biblical answers, they're political answers. And so they're political answers about Hamas did this or that, and this can all be true, but if it doesn't have the weight of scripture and the understanding of broader scriptural authority, I don't think it's going to have the weight to transform a whole generation that now doesn't believe what was a normal evangelical belief maybe 20 years ago.
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Now, Travis, I'm not going to put it into the same category, but it is, you know, the word says in Genesis chapter 12, those who bless Israel will be blessed. Also, when you look at the commandment to honor your parents, it is the commandment with promise. There's a promise that comes with honoring your parents. Now, when you honor your parents, it doesn't mean you agree with everything. In fact, you might have bad parents, but that doesn't mean you dishonor them. You still honor them. You don't agree with everything that Israel, I don't agree with every political decision or military decision that Israel makes, but I still support their right to exist and I pray for their well-being. Because if they're doing well and there's peace in Israel, in Jerusalem, as we're instructed to pray for, there's peace for everybody that lives there.
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Tony, that's right. And you made a point. The point you just made, it's the personal and the national analog, right? And I think with this issue, what we have to encourage people to do is Number one, open the Scriptures. But number two, when we open them, we have to ask the Holy Spirit to come and open them to our eyes spiritually so we have the Lord's perspective on the matter because we know this is a spiritual struggle. Incorporating, and we need to incorporate everything Casey just said in terms of the objections and questions. We're not afraid of the truth. We're not afraid of conversation. So we need to say, what is the question? Let's bring it to the table. But then let's let Scripture speak to it. I think the situation we're in is one in which there are there has been a lack of depth in that. So Tony, as we know, what happens when youth are exposed to the forces of the culture on the gender issue? We've seen kids go to school, go to university, come back influenced by gender ideology and their parents say, what do I do now? It's the same dynamic. Unless we have a grounding in scripture, we're going to be influenced by those around us, by social media, by peers, by educational systems, by cultures we're living in, wherever that is, even at a community level in the US. So we need to be aware who's around us, whose voice are we listening to. For the Christian, for the one who names the name of Christ, every one of those people should be saying, I'm opening the scripture. and amassing the Holy Spirit to come. But as Casey said, we need to listen to the questions and bring those before the Lord to help provide people the answers they need.
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Well, and that's on everything. I mean, that's not just on Israel. That's on all issues. We should be looking through a biblical lens on those issues, and that's why we have our Center for Biblical Worldview, helping people understand the issues from that biblical perspective. Without that foundation... And this is why we have our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan, which we have thousands of people involved in now. And we've done that because in this day of testing, where you have these cultural voices that are out there that are against everything that is right, you have to know what you believe and why you believe it. And when there's a foundation for it, you can stand in the midst of the cultural turbulence. You're not intimidated. You have courage. You have conviction. Really, the courage comes from the conviction. That's why we need to be teaching our children all of these things. And I've made this point before, you know, people lament that their kids walk away from the faith and they go to college. The reality is in our churches, we're teaching kids Bible stories and not biblical truths. We've got to go back to these truths so that there is a foundation. Casey, we've got about a minute left. I'm going to give you and Travis the last word. Well, almost the last word. I'll say goodbye, but go ahead.
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All right. Well, I'll take my portion here. And I'll just say I think one thing that it's not just about Israel. It's not like the answer is just teach more in Israel. I think there's something about how we've neglected the Old Testament as a whole, Tony. We just teach the New Testament. We ignore the Old Testament. And Israel is one casualty there, but there are many other teachings that have been ignored.
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Well, Jesus... And the salvation. I mean, the prophecies that point to him and his death, burial and resurrection. All right, Travis, you got 15 seconds.
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Tony, I agree. The Old Testament. And what if families gathered around the dinner table or in the living room and did that? They open up the Old Testament. Parents taught it and prayed through it with their children. What would our country look like? That's quite a picture.
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All right. Welcome. Health and Wellness Wednesday on this fine October the 1st. A beautiful day, by the way, here in Colorado. Hopefully you've been out and enjoyed it, which, by the way, is, in my opinion, part of health and wellness in and of itself. I love this time of the year. One of my favorite. times for various reasons but i love this just the weather the temperature everything we get right now is is uh why we live in colorado by the way so possible question of the day from yesterday which composer's final symphony is known as the choral symphony that would be beethoven it is the symphony number nine did you know that charlie now that i've said that probably i don't know i'm not a classical music guy so you're talking to the wrong guy sorry and i'm probably I don't know if I'd get in trouble for saying that, but just... And I know some people are really into it. Not me. Just not my type of music. And I know some of you are probably thinking, yep, I could have figured that, but yeah, not my kind of music. Now, for some... Some, not all. For some, that's very relaxing, and some people really get into it, and it's a part of their health and wellness end of things. So I think that's why Producer Anne even put that question in yesterday to answer today, going along with health and wellness. So for some, that is a part of your wellness walk, I guess I could say. Today's impossible question. Answer this again on our Facebook page. Which American hockey team made history in 1917 by becoming the first U.S. team to win the Stanley Cup? All you hockey fans would probably know this. Which American hockey team made history in 1917 by becoming the first U.S. team to win... the Stanley Cup. So that is the question of the day today, and I appreciate Producer Ann putting all those together, and those of you that participate and answer questions and so on, appreciate that. It's a lot of fun, and I look forward to them each day. I've learned a lot from the questions of the day, by the way, so thank you, Producer Ann, again, for doing that. Okay, and just some news. This does involve health and wellness, because anytime there's an outbreak of something, it can have ill effect. In this case, it definitely does. There's been a listeria outbreak from recalled frozen meals sold at Trader Joe's and Walmart that has left four dead and 19 in the hospital. Typically, you hear of people having, you know, food poisoning and some things along those lines. Rarely do we ever hear about people dying because of recalled foods. But in this case, it is. So they have recalled certain foods. frozen foods sold at Trader Joe's and Walmart. These are ready-to-eat meals containing pasta that may have been contaminated by listeria. The recall includes market-side linguine and beef meatballs and marinara sauce sold at Walmart in 12-ounce trays with a best-if-used-by dates of September 22nd, 24th, 25th, 29th, 30th, and today, October 1st. This recall, by the way, was put out back in June, but some people just throw these things in the freezer and leave them and don't think about it. It also covers Trader Joe's Cajun-style blackened chicken breast fettuccine Alfredo with the best, if used, dates of September 20th, 24th, 27th. So an update by the CDC on Friday showed the outbreak has led to 20 cases, including 19 hospitalizations and four deaths. The outbreak also spans 15 states. So I don't know if these were sold here. I didn't dig into all of the particular UPCs and so on and where they were at. So that's something that you probably should go and check on for yourself if you're somebody that actually buys that type of a meal. We don't, so this personally doesn't affect me because I'm not a big frozen dinner type guy. But for a lot of people, they are. For a lot of you that are even single or it's just you and your wife, like my wife and I, sometimes you'll buy frozen meals and use them in that way. But in my case, I'm not a big frozen food guy person. so at any rate check your freezer if you've had any of these types of meals that you have bought in the past double check again the use by dates and so on and by the way this is This is pretty well known. This came across several of my feeds because, again, of the heightened awareness of people dying and so on. So, again, double-check that. And this is something we don't talk much about. Probably should talk about it more. Whenever there's a food recall, frankly, probably more important than vehicle recalls in a lot of cases because – For certain people, they can really be susceptible to certain things that would come up when it comes to food poisoning and food problems and so on. So this is actually, in my opinion, a bigger deal in a lot of cases than what you'll find with your car. There was a shrimp recall. I didn't talk about this last week, but there was just recently a shrimp recall. for some heavy metals and different things in that particular brand of shrimp it was frozen shrimp so anytime these food recalls out yes we should be paying close attention to them making sure that we are you know abiding by and i don't know frankly i've never been involved in a food recall as to do you get your money back do you just take these back in do you throw them away and get some sort of a refund i mean i'm assuming there's a process there i personally Have you ever been through one of these, Charlie, where you actually take food back and get – he hasn't either. I never have. So, frankly, this is a new one on me. Listeria, by the way, is particularly harmful to people that are age 65 and older, as well as people who are pregnant or people with weakened immune systems. It can spread from the gut to other parts of the body, causing a severe condition known as invasive listeriosis. So they recommend that people who are vulnerable to listeria should contact a health care provider immediately if they have symptoms like headaches, stiff neck, confusion, loss of balance, and convulsions, as well as fever, muscle aches, and tiredness. So, again, especially if you're pregnant, please contact a health care provider immediately. as well. And I didn't see anywhere in this article as to do you get reimbursed or whatever. That part, you'll have to do some research on that because I don't know how that part works. If you do know how that works and you've experienced this before, send me a text message and I'll explain that to folks as well as to how that works because that, frankly, again, as I said a moment ago, I've never had that happen. So if you're somebody that's had familiarity with that and you want to help other listeners with that, and keep in mind, We have people that listen to this program all over the country. 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All right, somebody also mentioned a text line that Walmart said today. I did notice this. Thank you for reminding me, by the way, that Walmart said today that all of their private label food will remove artificial colors. Also, somebody says, so John Rush doesn't eat TV dinners. Not anymore. I did as a kid. In fact, as a kid, when my mom or dad would be working late or whatever and we'd have to fend for ourselves, I loved the Salisbury steak. What were those? Hungry Man Dinners, Charlie? Is that what they were called? Hungry Man Dinners, a Salisbury steak. The potatoes were awful. I loved the little Salisbury steak and gravy. And I never did like the little fruit in the tin. It was always, I don't know, never cared for the fruit. And if it had peas, I'm not a pea eater, so I didn't eat the peas. But I'd eat the Salisbury steak and some of the mashed potatoes. The mashed potatoes always tasted like cardboard with something on them, gravy or whatever they called that. I am guessing, I never went back to look to see, but I'm guessing those probably, Charlie, were not very healthy. Oh, and add butter. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, thank you, Charlie. Yeah, I loved those as a kid. And maybe they're healthier than even some of the stuff today because you put those in the oven. You had to warm them in the oven because we didn't have microwaves. They came in an aluminum plate, I guess you would call it, with aluminum top. And you had to kind of, you know, you guys all know, you had to lift one corner up a little bit so that as it heated up, it didn't blow the top off. But they were pretty easy, and actually, I enjoyed them. I think the Hungry Man's, you got two patties. Did you not, Charlie, with the Hungry Man's, you got two patties instead of one, I want to say, the TV dinners? I think that's how that worked. Man, you guys are taking me a long way back in time, even before the invention of microwaves. Some of the young people listening are like, what? There was a time there were no microwaves? Yep. There was. TV trays, you put that little, yeah, you'd get the aluminum TV tray out and unfold that bad boy, and you'd put your TV dinner on top of the TV tray, and you're in front of the TV eating. That's how it worked. And yeah, for a lot of you young people, yes, there was a time in my lifetime, for a long time. I mean, I don't think, I think, Charlie, I helped my folks buy our, you know, I was a weird kid, but... I helped my folks because they were super expensive back in the day. I helped my family buy the first microwave that we had. It was a radar range. That was the actual brand name back then. It was a MANA radar range. And I remember, Charlie, I think the first one we bought that I helped my folks with, I paid half, and it was like $900 or something, I want to say. If I remember, I paid like $450 or $500 towards that thing. Oh, yeah, Charlie said they were ginormous. You had to buy the microwave stand to actually put them on that kind of sat back in its own little area because the stinking things weighed, you know, it was like buying a boat. They were huge. Anyways, I'm digressing, but yeah, back before microwaves existed, we had TV dinners, and that's what you ate if you had to. So, all right, now this is a weird story. Somebody, one of you listeners sent me this. I didn't find this one on my own. And you'll know why as I go through this story as to why I didn't find this on my own. But this is from Red State. It says, Britain's National Health Service pushes the benefits of first cousin marriages. Now, I was always under the impression that you really didn't want to get too close to home on who you married because of some of the, quote-unquote, ill effects health-wise. And everything I was taught growing up was that was just one of those things that was a no-no. You just didn't do that. That's where sort of that old, you know, talking about inbreeding and so on comes from is, you know, cousins marrying and just weird stuff that happens. And I always was under the impression that you wanted to stay away from that. But in the episode of the United Kingdom Continues to Sink Deeper into the Abyss. as if the goings-on in the once great United Kingdom weren't already a dumpster fire, which they are, Britain's National Health Service recently posted a report on an alleged study promoting the benefits of first-cousin marriages. This story goes on to say, I'd comment on centuries of inbreeding in the UK, including King Henry VIII in 1540, changing the law to allow first cousin marriages so he could marry Catherine Howard, but that would be a serious digression. So let's not get into the nitty gritty. Last week, the NHS, England's genomics... Education program actually published guidance that said first cousin marriages is linked to stronger extended family support systems and economic advantages. They also forgot to mention the fact that it doubles the risk of genetic defects. Just this is me talking, not the story itself, not the article. That's just plain weird. I'm sorry. That's weird. I actually knew a couple that were first cousins that got married, and I always thought, weirdest thing ever. I mean, to me, that's just too close to home. But, I mean, I guess – I don't think, by the way, in the United States of America, I don't think it's against the law. I think you can. You can be first cousins and get married here in the U.S. I don't think that's looked upon very highly, but – you can, I believe, legally speaking, get married. So the 2022 study found that while unions produce just 4% of UK births, they account for 30% of birth defects. And a larger study in 2013 reveals that 37% of babies born with birth defects were from Pakistani first cousin marriages, also 37 times higher than the UK's national national average. Needless to say, the National Health Service's promotion of first cousin marriage has immediately faced a serious blowback on social media for prioritizing cultural sensitivity, pandering to Muslims over significant health concerns as America's closest ally intentionally continues to sink ever deeper into the abyss. So evidently. They put this publication out or this study out just to pander to the Muslims who I guess think it's okay to have first cousin marriages. I didn't know that was a popular thing there. Did you know that, Charlie? No, he didn't know that either. I was not aware of that. Learn something new every day. Gives new meaning to, you know, you're a redneck if you go to the family reunion to pick up chicks. Now that's happening in Britain. Just as a side note. Don't the Brits seem like they're always the arrogant ones where, you know, their way is the only way and they always look down upon us as, you know, Americans, which I've talked about that before. Typically, as Americans travel around, I get it. They're not always the most behaved. They can be very rude and crude and not behave like they should. Yeah, Charlie said they're aristocrats. I can't even say the name. Tells you I'm not one. Aristocrats. Aristocats? Aristocrats. The cartoons were cats. There we go. At any rate, I've always felt like the European folk, Britain especially, really looked down on United Kingdom, really looked down on us in America. You know, this isn't something that I think I'd be proud of. And again, I do think that this particular article is correct. I think this is one of those things where they're pandering to their Muslims, not Muslim friends, quote unquote, that have immigrated into Great Britain, UK, and they're just doing their best to pacify those individuals. Because evidently, and again, I learned this today, I didn't know that this was a big deal among the Muslim belief system. You notice I didn't call it a religion. It's a belief system. So at any rate, I just begin, and I did put this in health and wellness on purpose, and thank you whoever sent this to me. I appreciate it. I did put it into health and wellness because it fits. And I don't, again, there's, as the study talks about, higher chance of birth defects, 37 times higher in UK, by the way, But there's a 30% birth defects in UK from first cousin marriages are 30% of their birth defects. That's high, folks. So 3 out of 10. That's a big number. Where typically it's only 4%. It's 4% of the births, by the way, but 30% of the birth defects. Yes. So your chances of having issues with offspring by being married to a first cousin significantly increase. I didn't get into looking at AI or any of the other research that's out there to determine, you know, what's that like on a worldwide basis or here in the United States? What's that on a national basis? I don't think here there's too many studies on that because you don't find a lot of them. Maybe in other parts of the country you might, but here in Colorado, I think it's pretty rare to find first cousins that are married. Now, to each his own. I guess if that's something that you like and you're into, you know, I guess more power to you. And I wouldn't advise it, though, especially if you plan on having kids. I wouldn't advise it. I don't think that's the healthiest thing. I think you could do much better in other ways. Now, I guess if you don't plan on having kids and you want to whatever, okay, I guess knock your socks off. I'm not shocked by this because anymore I read so many things on a daily basis that there's not too much that shocks me, especially in the health and wellness end of things because I read a lot of things for this particular hour each week, and I'm to the point anymore where not too much shocks me. But I didn't know there was actually studies out there that Great Britain was actually promoting this. Keep in mind, the study is pushing the benefits of first cousin marriages. Not telling people what the risks might be, but promoting the benefits of. And I just went through the fact that there really aren't any. And I would even go as far as to say I don't understand how this would even be monetarily speaking an advantage. I mean, getting married and having a household has certain expenses that come with it, whether you're marrying your first cousin or not. I don't see how there's any advantage there. I guess you invite less people to the wedding. Maybe that's an advantage. I don't know. 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All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody texted me the exact same joke that I just said on air a moment ago. And, yeah, thank you, by the way, for that. I appreciate that. I know someone who married their second cousin, and we always still joke that their two kids, their two defective kids are inbred. Yes, I'm a terrible person. Yes, you are. But that's still pretty funny, actually. I would be doing the same thing, by the way, so don't feel bad. It's just – sorry, folks. It's just weird. It's just too weird. Somebody's laughing at my it's too close to home as well. Sent me a picture. That is hilarious. Absolutely. Okay. At any rate. And somebody actually commented on the whole frozen food thing and how that's probably not your healthiest choice in general, and you are most likely correct in that. So, yeah, I would just stay out of that aisle if I were you. All right, our next guest, Dr. Toby Watson, joining us now. Dr. Watson, welcome. How are you? hi i'm doing great nice to hear your voice nice to hear from you we appreciate it very much our topic today and i promo this is we are at a mental health crisis we see this we are i believe also at a tipping point anxiety is soaring prescriptions are handed out faster than ever the question we have and this is what you're going to answer is is there an alternative absolutely without question we know that we're seeing upwards of 20 percent of kids
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taking psychotropic medications. The average visit to any MD for absolutely anything, 10% leave with a psychiatric medication and 60% leave with two medications. What happened was, you know, back in the day, a great friend of mine who used to be the American Psychological Association president, Nick Cummings, Dr. Cummings did a study. And in 1990, he found that out of all the people that would go in for a mental health condition, only 10% got put on medication. And then 90% got referred out for a specialist, like a therapist or a counselor or nutrition or some sort of other testing. And he did the study 10 years later in 2000. And what do you think happened? It was the exact opposite. It was 90% got put on a medication and only 10% actually got referred to a behavioral or mental health specialist. And back in the day, we used to be pretty effective, and we were doing better than we are now. Harvard did a study not that long ago and said that we're worse now than we were in 1900. Wow. We're rated 26th out of 30 countries for children's mental health.
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Okay, so dumb question on my part. So literally in a decade, we reversed it. We went from 1090 to 9010. So this is a question that I don't have an answer to, but I talk about it quite a bit. I seem to ask people this question on a routine basis. I don't know that I've gotten a solid direct answer yet. Why? Why are we at this point today? What's causing this?
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Well, it's multifaceted. I mean, one, we have a breakdown in the family unit. So that by itself is where it starts. I mean, again, we're a byproduct of our upbringing. We are what we eat or what we see and breathe and read. So if you don't have a parental mom-dad diet kind of going for the kids, they don't have real good safety, faith, protections, and ego strength. So that's where it starts. From there, we now have a school system that, you know, the children serve the function of the school versus the school serving the function of children. Agreed. So we've got to change that. I agreed with my friend Charlie Kirk in saying that, you know, we need to start homeschooling more. Absolutely. If you would have asked me that 10, 12 years ago, I would have said, no, don't do it.
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And by the way, you and I are, we are 100% in agreement on that because I was with you in that same way, although today I'm not. Yeah. Yep.
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Exactly. Exactly. And I think so that's number two. Number three, and we know this to be true, the drug companies are there for profit. They're not there to help us. They're there for profit. And I've been involved in enough big high-profile cases where billions of dollars are at stake. And they are. I mean, they put profit over people. And we're seeing this time and time again. They're very happy to make those profits and get people addicted to these drugs for life. And so in doing so, they start to control the curriculum of our young children. They start to write little stories and fairy tales and stuff like that for children to read, to indoctrinate them in the idea that mental suffering is biological and it's an illness and that you have to use a medical treatment. I think we need to change that narrative. so that people understand that, no, it's not a chemical imbalance, despite about 78% of the public believing that it is caused by chemical imbalances. So I think that's a big change. So one is, again, the greed and the profit. Two is the breakdown of the family unit. Three, we have a socialization that has completely radically changed. I think the Internet and social media has allowed academic bullying to happen. I'm sorry, not academic bullying, although that happens too. I think that, you know, having less screen time and getting back to nature, exercise is massive. I mean, kids are much more obese now. It's interesting. In the United States, we have an obesity problem and a hunger problem, which is really bizarre.
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I know. Go figure.
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Because we've got the most obese people, and we've got people who really are struggling, you know, with eating disorders and getting food, or I should say at least healthy food.
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There you go. Good answer. Yes. Yeah. And by the way, I can't disagree with any single thing you said. And by the way, I don't think it is any single thing. I think it's a combination of all of what you just said. And I want to add one more thing, and I'm guessing from what I've already heard from you, you would agree with me. The spiritual component of this, which I had a listener the other day text me, and I couldn't disagree with him, and his comment was, you know, I don't see as many families with kids in church like I once did, and I wonder if that's part of where we're at with some of what's going on. And not saying, you know, by any means, I want to make sure that I'm clear on this, I'm not saying, Dr. Watson, that church is the end-all and the fix-all because they have issues just like any other organization would have, but that whole spiritual component going back to the family unit and the raising of, that's a big factor as well, I think.
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Absolutely. And there's research to support that time and time again. When we have people coming into, again, I used to run a free clinic here in my hometown and I do quite a bit of research and testimony around the country. And that's one of the number one static variables. When I ask and do a risk assessment or a psychological assessment, I'm looking for what spirituality and or religious affiliation do you have? And I can tell you without question that people who have the most severe mental illness and are struggling in that way, they end up having a breakdown within their relationship with God. They simply don't have it. And unfortunately... you know, it has been a bit by design.
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Oh, it is. That's the Marxist movement. That is directly by design. Absolutely, Dr. Watson, 100%.
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And that's not to get too political, but... Oh, no, no.
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In my opinion, that's not even politics. That's just reality. That was by design some 60, 70, actually probably started 100 years ago, but that is 100% by design. That's not political. That's just the way it is.
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Well, it became political because the liberal more, you know, and I'll say far-left movement started to adopt it, and they realized, even within the African-American community during the 60s, that in order to break down the African-American community in some way, you really needed to remove the family unit, which was one of the most structural, sound things they had, and religion. And so by incentivizing single mothers to say, hey, you can have children, we'll incentivize you to have children, we'll pay you, you know, if there's not a father in the home, They were able to actually break that family unit down and then in turn break some of the religious affiliation and faith that they had. And then obviously the drugs had gotten put into it as well. And people don't realize that this has been by design to really remove that middle class to have kind of the oligarch upper class, which is allowed to have their money by whatever supreme entity is running. the show, and then ultimately have wonderful workers down at the absolute bottom, and nothing really in the middle that could potentially challenge the supreme being, whoever that might ultimately be in whatever country you're talking about, whether it be like Venezuela or China or Russia. And America is really at a very vulnerable place because of that, and it does all tie together.
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It does. You're right. No, it absolutely does. As you can tell, you're in very good company with what you're thinking and saying and what you've researched. And I am not a clinical psychologist, but I've been able to sit back and been on air for over a decade now and just watching these things and doing these interviews and just watching where we're going culturally speaking. And And it's scary. I don't know how else to say it, Dr. Watson. It's scary because, to your point, we are at a point where the minute somebody has any kind of a, you know, quote-unquote mental challenge, we're doing, in my opinion, we're doing this completely backwards.
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Correct, without question. And if you look at, you know, countries that utilize less, like, psychotropic medication, and they see it as more of a spiritual, integrated, you know, biological, spiritual, you know, holistic and... experiential, you know, from your conditioning when they like that left Finland, for example, which is a very isolated community, but you know, they like schizophrenia or psychosis, it's about 1% across the population, wherever you go in the world. But it's interesting, they have, you know, upwards of 80 to 90% success rate, and they only use 16% of their population ever go on a medication. And so we've got to look at those places and those countries and say, how are they achieving such success when we're using six times the amount of mental health services as any other developed country, and yet we're ranked one of the worst. We have more mass violence. Again, we're only 5% of the world's population. We have roughly 35% to 40% of all the mass shootings. We're using all the drugs, and our mental health is in the tank. And I think part of it is that there's this Marxist movement That really comes down to if you can get young children indoctrinated to the idea that they don't have control of themselves, that it's biological and they've got to take these drugs, and the government's going to protect you. And again, Medicare and Medicaid are the biggest buyers of these medications. I just did a study with a group looking at 35 or roughly 35 states, and we looked at exactly how much money are we spending on Medicaid for children under the age of 18. And unfortunately, Wisconsin, my hometown state, was the highest per child out of all of these states. And we ended up spending, back in 2023, about $106 million on the Medicaid program. And we're talking about giving stimulants and antipsychotics and mood stabilizers to, like, infants. We're talking zero to nine months old. It's absolutely sick what they're doing. It really is child abuse.
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I had no idea.
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Yeah, and unfortunately, almost all the states are doing it. And, you know, these drug companies are targeting these doctors.
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Okay, I've got to stop for just a minute. Under what guise? In other words, what's their excuse for, I mean, you've got a child this young. What excuse are they using to give these kids these drugs?
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Yeah, yeah. I've been involved in court cases, and I've talked with these doctors. And so there's, you know, one rationale is that, hey, mom is addicted to these SSRIs or antidepressants or whatever anxiety drugs. And the baby's born. And again, these drugs pass through the placenta into the baby. So the baby's addicted and intoxicated on the drugs, just like mom is. So baby comes out, and now there's no more, you know, drugs. So the baby starts to have, you know, some real problems because it's going through withdrawal reactions. And so the doctors, some of them are saying, hey, let's just put them on a very, very low dose so that they don't have this withdrawal reaction. So that's one. And that one I can almost justify. in a way, if it's truly going to end up causing some sort of discontinuation syndrome, we call it, or some sort of real psychosis, rebound psychosis. However... The other group are these doctors who are literally just saying, hey, mom was diagnosed bipolar or severe depression, and I think it's genetic, and I think it's chemically imbalanced brain. Therefore, I'm going to prophylactically give little baby infant a medication in the hopes that 16 years from now they don't get diagnosed with it. Again, there's zero research to back that up, but they're doing it.
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Okay. Walk me through. And by the way, this is fascinating. And I'm going to have you back because this has just been, you know, so much information that there's no way we're going to get everything covered in the short amount of time we've got. So I definitely will have you back. This has been fabulous. So we've got people out there listening. Let's say something happens and we've got a situation, something happens and things happen. I mean, Dr. Watson, we all know that, you know, nobody's immune from these things. No family's immune from these things. But all of a sudden you find yourself where something's happened and all of a sudden there's a family member that's going through some sort of a problem. They've had a psychosis episode or whatever the case may be. What should they be looking at and how should they be handling this moving forward?
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So if we're talking about something severe like psychotic experience, first time, first episode, first thing I would say is, are they smoking marijuana? Are they smoking something? Are they doing any sort of illegal drugs? Because the increase with that is about anywhere from a three to six fold, 600% increase. And so if they're doing that, Be careful that they weren't misdiagnosed with a psychotic disorder. Oh, it's the onset of schizophrenia. Nope. It might have just been a medication-induced or an illegal drug-induced, in which case, hey, stop the drug and you should be fine. And don't go on any antipsychotics because that will increase your risk of having a second episode. If it's not that and we call it, let's say it truly is a psychological experience that they're having, the most effective treatment right now is something called open dialogue approach. I would tell the listener, go research open dialogue approach, start looking throughout the United States for somebody, a practitioner who's willing to do something like that, or a more psychoanalyst type therapist who's willing to work with somebody, or even if you can't find that, a cognitive behavioral therapist or somebody who's willing to work with the client but does not agree with you, say, hey, I don't want to take antipsychotic medications, I don't want to go down that path, I want to see if I can manage my safety and put structure. The other thing is that you really gotta understand why is it happening. We know that from research, if I go into any hospital or any clinic right now, and I look at these studies, there's only about seven or eight studies out there, if I pull all the patients out and I do a full, full lab work and I do full blood analysis and I really look at all medical, you know, metabolic issues, I'll find roughly about anywhere from 15 to 18% of them actually have a medical condition. And when you treat the medical condition, the psychiatric goes away. So one out of every six right out of the gate Again, we know it really doesn't have psychosis because it's psychological. There's some other Lyme disease or some sort of other thyroid issue or some sort of other thing going on.
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Gotcha. Okay, makes total sense. One thing I read the other day, and again, I'm not in your world, and I don't even sometimes understand your world, and I've had this conversation with even other family members, and I don't do well in this world. I'll be really honest with you, Dr. Watson, I'm one of those to where... I guess it's just me and my personality where if stress is high or there's something going on, I'm one of those where it's like, you know, I find something to do. I bury myself in work or I go do something else that gets my mind off of whatever that other thing is that's going on. And I guess I've always looked at problems as everybody has one. How are we going to deal with it? And let's move forward. I've never let those problems get me down to the point where you feel like, you know, I just can't make it anymore. And, again, I know I'm weird and I'm unique and I'm not like everybody else. No, you're not. I struggle with some of this because it's like, you know, in some cases, folks, if you were just I'm sorry to say, but if you were busier and you weren't sitting around feeling sorry for yourself, you may not be in this condition in the first place.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, you're right, and there's something to be said. There's not eating disorders in Africa. Nobody's bulimic in Africa. And the same goes true in a lot of other countries as well. Now, we know we had psychosis go back 500 years, 1,000 years even, and somebody had an experience, they'd see or hear something, they'd go to their elder, they'd sit around a campfire, and the elder would talk to you and say, well, tell me about the imagery, tell me about it. And they'd amplify it, and they'd find out about what is really going on for you. And when they would do that, they would make sense out of it. And by making sense out of their craziness, quote-unquote, they actually were able to come to some rational thought. And the psychosis then would go away. So having, you know, again, exercise, not only is it good for the body, it's good for the mind. It's one of the best stress relievers. That and actually having sex, those are the other stress relievers. But, you know, staying busy, yeah, you've got less time to be kind of mind-screwing yourself.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's almost like, in a way, I guess it would be like exercise, other than when you're working, you're doing it for a longer term. Most exercises, you know, 20 minutes to an hour. I know there's some people that will run and even go longer than that, but typically that's kind of the time frame. When you're working, though, Dr. Watson, that can involve, in some cases, several hours, in fact, hours upon hours sometimes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct. Well, and that's one of the challenges. We have an anatomy of an epidemic right now with diagnosing and putting people on medication and then ultimately getting them on disability. Bob Whitaker, a good friend of mine, wrote a book called Anatomy of an Epidemic and then Mad at America. And he really highlights this phenomena that's happening where basically young children are getting diagnosed and then they get, you know, a little more severe diagnosis and then they get a little more medication. And then as an adult, then they can't really work because they're now becoming cognitively impaired. Mind you, you know, even airline pilots, you know, back in the day, I'm a pilot as well. And back in the day, you couldn't be on psychotropic meds. Well, now they loosen that up. And we've attributed a lot of crashes to, you know, them being intoxicated on these medications, which is a real problem. 31%, in fact, with a contributing factor back in the FAA report back in 2017. So my point here is that we're getting people on disability, and they're becoming, and they accept that label, I am mentally disabled. And once you start to take that label and you self-identify yourself, it's game over. It's no different than, like, you know, I hate to say it, but the transgender community and a lot of other communities, when you start to self-label yourself as an outcast, as unworthy or radical, you really start to adopt it and you start to, you know, others view you that way as well. This is also the narrative why you know, again, kind of the marked of communist manifesto, if you can call somebody a Nazi, guess what? It's a lot easier to be angry or violent to somebody when you say, oh, that's a Nazi. You feel justified then not being nice, not being humane to somebody, because you feel like, well, they're inhumane, they're evil, so therefore I can, you know, destroy that evilness. Meanwhile, it's a projection because you're the one acting in an evil fashion.
SPEAKER 10 :
And again, as I said, and I mean this, the whole Marxist movement is to get exactly where we're at and what you're describing, because at the end of the day, if you don't feel worth in yourself, well then, okay, government will come along and help you feel worthy. Forget about that Almighty God stuff. He doesn't exist. We do, and we're going to make your day better. Reality is that is false, false hope, and it doesn't work, as you're saying.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely, yeah, without question. It's exactly the challenge that we have. People really need to recognize that they need to be self-aware, self-critical. The government's not there to help you at this point, although I have to say this administration certainly is doing a much better job of being able to highlight some of these challenges and problems that we've been having. I am thrilled that we have RFK in the office right now. I think he's really opening a lot of eyes, and I think there's... a lot of power at play right now trying to make him just look out to be crazy or that he's not scientific. But if you, if you dive in and go down that rabbit hole and listen to some of the work that he's doing and read those studies that he has read and others, you'll start to understand that, okay, the curtains are being pulled back, and you're seeing that the wizard isn't quite what we thought it was.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're exactly right. One other thing I wanted to ask you, and it's something I read here a while back, and again, I'm not an expert in your world. I'm an old car guy, so that's my background. I've been in that world my entire life. I've been a business owner since I was very young, 1986. I was 22, and again, the working side of it, when you're self-employed, you don't have a choice. You just keep working until you figure a way to grind things out, and so that's just the only way I've ever... have ever known, Dr. Watson. But I read something the other day that talked about how long ago there were two different beliefs, I guess you could say, or different theories on how we should handle, you know, mental illness and people that get discouraged and depressed and so on. And one of those was, listen, instead of looking back and looking at all the trouble that you may have run into in your life, which, by the way, we all have, let's look forward, let's look to the next new thing, and let's move forward that way, versus the Let's concentrate on the past. Let's try to work through all those things that have happened. Let's get those things out of your mind, and let's do our best to make sure that you concentrate on the past and then work through that rather than looking to the future. The problem is we adopted that latter version, and rather than keeping people on track to look forward and forget about the past, we dwell on the past. Is there truth to that?
SPEAKER 12 :
There's truth to exactly what you're saying, and there's research to support both. So, again, people remember the old Sigmund Freud, and he was the one that kind of looked at, hey, this is all about, you know, libido energy and your past and childhood experiences. And there's, you know, some truth to that, that it can be helpful. However, you're exactly right that people can just get stuck in, like, keep looking at the past and keep exploring it. And again, you know what? You can't change the Buddhist mentality. You can't change the past, so don't worry about it. You can't predict the future, so don't worry about it. All you can do is work with the here and now. At this exact moment in time, nobody's trying to kill you. Nobody's trying to try to bomb you. You've got food in your belly. Some people love you. So life is good. So take a mental vacation at this moment and take a big deep breath. Tell yourself a little auto feedback and a nice self-affirmation. Hey, I am worthy. I am healthy. I am capable. And get up. We call it jumping in. You know, dialectical behavioral therapy is one of these catchphrases, DBT. But they've got some great skills where it's just like, hey. Get off the couch, jump in, and go do something. And guess what? When you do that, endorphins kick in, serotonin goes up, you start to have a physical activity, and it really starts to make a difference. I would tell listeners, if you're really struggling, even on a particular day, and you just can't seem to wake yourself up, go to your bathroom mirror, look at yourself in the mirror, smile at yourself for one minute. And you're going to start to laugh, and you're going to think this is stupid as hell. But you know what? The moment you say it's stupid and you start laughing... It changed your cognition. The fastest way to change your feeling is change your behavior. And I'm like you. I started off when I was 21. I opened up a large bar nightclub and I got in that business. And then I ended up in a lot of other businesses. But I went back to school and became a clinical psychologist. and then a researcher and trained as a scientist. But I've always kept my entrepreneurial piece to me. So I don't do this even though I do kind of semi-full-time and I do a lot of testimony and whatnot around the country and I help people around the country. I'll fly to them. The only way that I'm allowed to do that is because I've got real estate. I've got boats. I've got all these other businesses that I'm doing. And it allows me to kind of multitask and allows me to have these little parts of my identity, which is really good. And I would encourage other people, you know, if you're not happy with your life, change it. You know, I like Morgan Friedman when he used to talk about racism. He said, you want to stop racism? Stop talking about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, if you want to stop your depression, stop talking about it. Go do stuff before you know it. You're going to be going, wow, I'm outside. I'm having fun. I'm talking to people. But your identity has been given to you from a therapist probably who diagnosed you. And now you're like, I am bipolar. I am this. I am that. Get rid of the label, get rid of it, and redefine who you are. And you can do that immediately and be done with it. And again, when people say, hey, this is a lifelong illness, no, it's not. It's only a lifelong illness if you tell yourself it is. It's only a lifelong illness if you take medications that make you biologically prone to it. This can be cured and done in a week.
SPEAKER 10 :
Awesome. Dr. Toby, again, Toby Watson, we'll have you back. This has been great. I've thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm out of time, but thank you so much. I appreciate it greatly. Likewise. You're awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 12 :
Just look me up, Dr. Toby Watson.
SPEAKER 10 :
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In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush dives deep into the subject of government inefficiency. The discussion opens with an analysis of a government shutdown and what it really means for citizens, emphasizing how little disruption is truly felt by most people. This leads to a spirited conversation on the notion of 'non-essential' government positions and the redundancy in certain federal and state operations, prompting listeners to question the necessity of a bloated workforce funded by taxpayer dollars.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did!
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Get a job, Turk! You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I?
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Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, welcome. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Shut down, meaning it's not really shut down. Essential services are still going to happen. And there's several articles out and, again, so much hype over this where the Democrats, of course, want you to think that just the end of the world has happened, even though they caused it. So what really happens on a day like today? You'll not notice any difference. Traffic might be a little lighter. That might be about the only thing you notice is traffic might be lighter. Why? Because non-essential government workers didn't work today. So I always have the question, I know I say this every single time, if they're non-essential, then why do we need them anyways? I get it. There are, you know, national parks and so on where, you know, they all still operate, but on a skeleton crew, so on and so forth. And Again, I always have to ask the question, then why do you need a full crew? If they can operate on a skeleton crew, why do you need a full crew? Why do we need that extra payroll? And the answer is because government can do whatever it wants to because there's no competition and they don't have to operate like a private business does. Where a private business would figure out efficient ways to do things and make things happen and eliminate payroll at times because times get tough, government doesn't have to do that because they have an unlimited bank account. Yours. Yours. And they're borrowing. So your tax dollars and the borrowing against your tax dollars is what they do. And, again, I'm of the opinion we need a whole lot less government, not more. The shutdown, for the majority of you, you'll never know they're shut down. I'm not exaggerating. The majority of people will go about their day-to-day life and not notice any difference, despite what the naysayers out there, the alarmists will tell you that, oh, the sky is falling. No, it's not. As far as I'm concerned, they could leave it shut down. We could continue on like this indefinitely, and we'd be just fine. In fact, you probably don't want my opinion when it comes to some of our national parks and things along those lines. I'm one that says scale some of those back and sell some of the land off. Collect some revenue. Pay the debt. By the way, that's what normal houses and families and companies have to do. Why should we be any different? And why does state and federal lands consist of about 40% of the country? It shouldn't. Sell that stuff off. You're paying to manage it. You're paying to maintain it. You're paying all sorts of things for it. Get rid of it. Collect some tax dollars. Because remember, when it goes back into the private sector, you now get income off of it in the way of property taxes and so on. And by the way, you save money. So not only do you get the tax dollars in, but you no longer have to maintain said property. So you win in two ways. And I know I'm on a touchy subject. There's a lot of even outdoorsmen and so on that think that I'm probably crazy and what I'm saying. But trust me, folks, we have so much land. You could sell half of it off and most people would never the difference. The vast, vast, vast amounts of land that we don't need. And that money could come back into the coffer, into the treasury. We don't need as much as we have. And I know there's people out there that would disagree with me and say, no, we actually need more. Take it away from those that have too much private land ownership and let's put that back into government. I disagree. I think it should go the other way around. I think we need to get rid of some. We don't need it. It's money we could collect, especially when land prices are high. Let's make money on some of this. Let's not go the other direction. Bob, go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, gosh. I don't even know where to start, John. You know, you and I have talked about the Postal Service. Absolutely absurd. It could go into private hands. Again, I... I really think that I should take a screw and screw a garbage can right to my post office box in front of my house with a trap door in it to dump everything in there, it's absolutely ridiculous.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the majority of what you get, I mean, again, there are some, like I told you the other day, for me, there are some legitimate things that do come in the mail, but I literally, Bob, even as a business owner, I could get a couple of deliveries a week and be just fine, and the majority of even what I get goes in the garbage. It's not needed.
SPEAKER 17 :
One delivery a week. I don't even get one delivery a week of any value. My entire life is on the Internet.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I think the majority of people would agree. Now, for me, I get all sorts of things business-wise that come in the mail from, you know, registrations for vehicles and things along those lines where, yes, I still need a way to receive those. But, again, do I need those daily, Bob? No, I could do it once a week and be just fine.
SPEAKER 17 :
you're in a little bit different position than I am.
SPEAKER 07 :
And there are others like me, although we are the minority. You know, I'm the minority, not the majority. So you literally could change all the way that's serviced very easily.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, so, you know, I'm in my mid-70s, and so I deal with some health issues and billing and stuff like that. It takes forever. I've had minor stuff that I get a bill for eventually $5, months later for $14,000, and it comes down to 18 pages of this, that, and the other thing, and my share is $10, and they've got to send this to me in the mail?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I mean, it's just... No, they could send that in an email, and you'd be just fine. Yeah, I mean, some of the other things too, you know, Bob, that I think they could really sit down, evaluate, and figure out that, you know, how could we operate? You know, I noticed reading one of the articles today that, you know, certain things like, you know, passport services, you know, you might be delayed in getting a passport and renewal. And Bob, I just have to ask the question to those that, you know, the powers that be, Why are we still physically doing those things? You know, we're at a point now, Bob, where AI, for all intensive purposes, could handle the majority of that transaction and send that off to whoever prints those passport books, and it's an automatic process. Why does anybody need to handle that in the first place?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, you know, every 10 years I have to renew my passport. I have to renew my driver's license every five years, which is ridiculous.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 17 :
Registrations on cars... I don't even use the mail for that. I don't even get in my car and drive to the DMV. It's all.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the only time, and this happened to us today, the only time you really need to go to DMV is if you've got an old vehicle that still had money left on it. So say you traded the vehicle off and there was still half a year left on the registration, you can get credit for that going against the other vehicle. And by the way, you should be able to do that online as well, Bob. There's no reason why you have to drive to DMV to actually handle that. There should be a process whereby you can do that online as well. It's stupid to have to go to the office to handle that.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, I really... I have absolutely zero contact with any federal agency, city, county, state, or federal, that I can't take care of on my phone.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you're lucky. Unfortunately, there are those situations for, again, those of us as business owners, we probably run into this and encounter this more than anybody else, Bob. But again, it doesn't have to be that way. There are ways where they can improve that efficiency, and you could do it all online, and it would save from having humans be involved in the process.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'll give you another example. You know, I have a no-fee Charles Schwab account, and there's probably... $2.5 million in it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Give or take a day. I have never had to do anything via mail.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
I can trade stocks. I can sell. I can buy. I can take care of all my, you know, my RMDs, everything. Right. On a $100 cheap phone at my kitchen table.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. But yet there are certain things inside government you cannot do that with, Bob.
SPEAKER 17 :
Did you see what the latest was today?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, what?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, remember they offered early retirement, you know, give you some kind of a severance. Oh, yeah, for federal workers, you mean? Do you know how many people took that?
SPEAKER 07 :
How many?
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300,000.
SPEAKER 17 :
300? They were estimating 100,000.
SPEAKER 07 :
300 took that. Wow, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER 17 :
And now they're talking about within the next two or three days, they can eliminate another 800,000 are non-essential. I mean, a lot of these departments go, oh, we have 30% of our employees are essential, and the other 70% are non-essential.
SPEAKER 08 :
Why are they there?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. Then why are we paying them in the first place?
SPEAKER 17 :
John, I worked my career for AT&T. Had I been non-essential for one day, I would have been without a job.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, right. So again, that begs the question, why do we allow this to happen in government?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, it's, what do they call that, those... you know, those agencies that never, they're not elected.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, these are unelected bureaucrats.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, 100%. Yep. Bob, thanks. I did not know the information on that. I appreciate that very much. I'll let you go. We're under break. We'll come right back. Joe, hang tight. Sorry, Flesh Law is coming up next. 303-806-8886.
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All right, we are back.
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Joe, you're next.
SPEAKER 18 :
Go ahead. John, two things regarding AI and passports. I came back from a cruise last year from the Bahamas, and when I got off the ship, there was a sign saying for U.S. passport holders, you know, take this lane, don't wear, you know, take off your glasses, take off your hat. It was facial recognition to reenter the country. Right. Have you experienced that yet?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I have global entry, so I do that every time.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so you don't have to show your passport book.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I just walk in.
SPEAKER 18 :
Just facial recognition. The other thing regarding, you know, I've been thinking about that. If I were to have the contractor deliver mail in this country, I would start off with three days a week. Half the town would get Monday, Wednesday, Friday. The other half would get Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday. And if you needed something on the off days, you'd go to the post office and pick it up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct, which most wouldn't. The majority of people would just wait until the next day and you'd be in good shape.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so again, so you could – and it wouldn't be – you could do it with half the delivery drivers because it's not like they're overloaded.
SPEAKER 07 :
The only thing keeping – really quick, and you know this, Joe. The only thing keeping the post office really alive right now, and any postman would agree with me on this – is the package delivery, the Amazons of the world. And, by the way, they're delivering because of contracts. I don't know if those have been renegotiated of late or not, but at one time the post office was losing money on that deal they had with Amazon. I don't know if that's changed since, Joe, but that's about the only thing really keeping the post office afloat is the package delivery.
SPEAKER 18 :
And even there, John, my wife does a lot of shopping on Amazon. We probably get two or three Amazon deliveries a week.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
And most of them come with private drivers. Yeah, a lot do. one package a week or less in my mailbox, but most of it, you know, it has to be something that'll fit in the mailbox, which has got to be a really, really small package.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, a small package, you know, one of the, you know, you buy a garment, a shirt or whatever, and it comes in one of those little, you know, bubble-packed kind of a wrap deal. I mean, other than that, Joe, you're right. I mean, most everything else is coming either UPS or the Amazon driver themselves.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and when I say Amazon, it's not even the truck.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's an independent, you know, somebody that's just pulling up in a plainclothes car.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and they're Toyota Altima or Nissan Altima or whatever.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's like Uber for Amazon.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, exactly, yeah. So, again, I could get by with one day a week, but for those who have to be kind of – acclimated to it, John, I think you start them off with three days a week, and once they figure out that three days a week, yeah, that's, you know, no problem.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, other than me, Joe, as a business person, the majority of what comes in the mail that is non-business related is junk.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's garbage. And most big businesses have P.O. boxes anyway. They have somebody go down to the post office in the morning, go pick it up, you know, there's part of there on the way into the office, they stop by and empty the P.O. box, so it's not even a big business issue, so...
SPEAKER 07 :
No, the reality is that that whole entity, the post office itself, could be completely revamped. By the way, should be, because we still subsidize it as taxpayers, and it should be revamped because it ought to be able to stand on its own. If it can't stand on its own, then figure out a way where it does.
SPEAKER 18 :
And by the way, they did something, by the way, to hide the post office losses. 1974, Congress passed something called the ERIS Act, Employee Retirement Security Act. It said, hey, if you have a defined pension plan, You, the employer, every year have to calculate what those future pension liabilities are. In other words, if you've got a guy who's 28 years old and he's been working for you, he's earned some sort of pension. He may not draw it for another 40 years, but you have to bank money so that when he turns 65, it'll be there and you've got to put it. Well, the post office no longer has to do that. So they're not including in their operating costs the pension liabilities that they're incurring every single day. Which are big. Which are huge.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
Because if you're a U.S. Postal Service employee, you get a very, very rich or lucrative pension. And the post office, unlike private industry today, is not being required to book that as a liability and bank the funds in the future. So their net operating loss, which is still a net operating loss, is grossly understated. They're actually losing way more money than their annual report posts. Hey, John, one more question. Is Bob Duco going to do a eulogy for Joanne Chesimar, the woman who murdered the state police officer in New Jersey?
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn't hear about that one.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, you didn't hear about Bob? Joanne Chesimar, 1973, she and some other people killed a New Jersey state trooper, and she got sentenced to life in prison. And a few years later, 1979, some of her Black Liberation Army buddies broke her out of prison here in New Jersey.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 18 :
And got her to Cuba, where, of course, Cuba doesn't have an extradition policy with the U.S. And she was living there in exile, but, you know, comfortably in Cuba for the past 40. But she died last week. The Chicago Teachers Union yesterday put out this beautiful eulogy mourning her passing, never once mentioning the fact that she was a convicted cop killer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, geez. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Never once. Oh, yeah, I sent you an email, Bob. I sent you an email.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, I'll check it out.
SPEAKER 18 :
But she was, so it's just sickening. She has no connection to Chicago, but the Chicago Teachers Union went out of their way to publish this glowing, glowing eulogy for this woman who was a convicted cop killer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's all I got, Robert.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thanks, Joe. Appreciate you very much. I'll let you go. Ben and Evergreen, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, just a couple brief comments. Sure. You know, a few weeks ago, Elon Musk, he's talking about all the waste, and they did everything but, you know, hang the guy on a cross. And now we've got all these non-essential government employees. Right. And I'm with Trump. It's like we don't need him to begin with.
SPEAKER 07 :
I am, too. You know my feelings on that, Ben. I feel like – and that's across the board. That's not just on the federal level. I could take this to the state and local level as well. Far too many of them don't do anything to justify their job.
SPEAKER 05 :
Damn right. And the other thing is the post office – I will say this – The one guy that called in that was like 70-something.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right, Bob.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, nice guy. I just disagree with some of that thinking in that if you can get a piece of mail delivered for less than a buck, that's the cheapest money you'll spend. You just try and hire somebody. 30 years ago, I was doing some courier work. It was $12. Back then, just to get anything across town, one little envelope. So I'll let the post office... For the time being, I'll cut them a break, let them do what they do best. But what's completely ridiculous to me is, again, going back to Musk, everybody hated him. There's all these protests. Maxine Waters, God knows we had to hear from her. Oh, geez. And it's like... We don't need these 300,000 or whatever. No, we don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
We don't. I mean, as I've said, we have 3 million federal workers, and you could literally run it with probably a third of that number or less.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, you know, I don't hate the government. I hate a lot of what they do. but just taper them off, you know, cut them back.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I'm like you, Ben. What I hate about government is that it just gets, it's like church. I'm sorry to use that comparison, but it's true. It's that, well, we've always done it this way, so we'll keep doing it. They never look at any new ways to innovate, and once something gets started, it never ends. It's like in a church. If you start a public ministry, for example, Ben, that bloody thing will run until Christ comes back. The reality is maybe it doesn't need to run anymore, but it will because it's in the church. Government's the same way. It's no different.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're doubling down on what doesn't work that well. That's right. It might have worked pretty good at one point.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
But instead of stopping it, they're growing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. Government is exactly the same way. That's my beef with government.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I like Musk, but I didn't need him to tell me... Oh, no, I already knew that. We all knew that. Yeah. And so maybe this will be kind of that clarion call, that wake-up for people to go, well, yeah... Do we need this? It's funny. When people come to their own conclusions on an idea, pretty soon it's like, oh, it's our idea. It wasn't Musk.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great point.
SPEAKER 05 :
We thought of it. We're smart.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, great point. You're right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, people, myself included. You know, most people, we're just not that smart or we'd be doing it differently to begin with, at least the government end of things.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
So cut back where you can, when you can, how you can.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
They work for us, or so we say, but they got their own idea.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you're right about that one as well. Thanks, Ben. Appreciate you very much. Nope, all spot on, guys. I cannot argue with any of that. And these are the times whereby, and I think these shutdowns, by the way, I guess I could thank the Democrats for this one because this is on them, not us. The reality is they're the ones that created this, and at the end of the day, This is going to come back to hurt them more than it does us. I welcome these because, again, it shines a light on these sections of government whereby, in this case, 300,000 workers are taking early retirement. Well, let's not replace them. We don't need them. In fact, we need a lot more to do exactly right. what they're doing. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Again, save money on your insurance by having a proper roof. You can extend the life of, rejuvenate that roof is what I should say. And if it needs replaced, Dave can help you with that as well. 303-710-6916.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Scott Garlis joining us now. Scott, welcome. How are you? Hey, John, I'm well. How are you? I'm doing great. Give us an update on Wall Street. What's going on? Government shutdown. How is that having an effect, or is it having an effect on Wall Street?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you know, typically, contrary to what the popular belief would be, government shutdowns actually work out very well for Wall Street.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
How so?
SPEAKER 07 :
Why is that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, so coming into shutdowns, what you see is you see fear-mongering everywhere. The headlines like, oh, my God, the economy is going to collapse. This is a disaster. You hear every single doomsday scenario. And you hear a lot from people on Wall Street, too, especially with what I found was going back and looking at studies. I'll get into this a little bit more in a minute. But the scenario is almost the same every single time. The stock market is close to all-time highs. And there are people like they want to get really negative on it on the stock market, too. And so they're they really like to talk up the angles about what a disaster it's going to be. And typically it does not work out that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Right. So here's a question, and I didn't realize this. I was talking to some callers that called in just a little bit ago, and originally there was a thought that there would be about 100,000 federal workers that would take the early buyout and be done, but I guess that number has risen to 300,000, and if government doesn't replace them, that's less money we're spending inside of government, and I think the chances of them being replaced are pretty slim.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is true. I mean, it's very possible. It depends on what systems and abilities they have in place.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I mean, because you wouldn't want to create a situation where we're stressed for workers and we can't get government turns into chaos and gridlock. But, yeah, I would think they're going to be more selective probably. on how they refill those positions, I would think.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and here's a question I have for you. In a lot of cases, I mean, not every, but I kind of believe there's a lot of cases where you start looking at AI and saying, okay, guys, how can we redesign and streamline some of the things that we're doing, just like the private sector does, where they say, listen, we've got, you know, for example... I went to a meeting I had today at noon, met somebody, I'm not going to name the restaurant, but went to a restaurant, kind of a not fast food, but you can still sit down, but it's not a full bore, you know, you know, dine in type. I mean, it's one of those you can go in, you can go out and do whatever. And in this particular case, and we've watched it morph here over the past several months, they've gone from having, you know, a couple of people behind a counter that would normally take your order to the kiosks. And this isn't McDonald's, so it's not a McDonald's, but it's very similar where you walk up to the kiosk, and we've learned the system now to where you type in your customer code, which is typically your phone number, and all of a sudden you get started, and it kind of knows that some of your orders have already been and so on. And by the way, at the end of the day, I can order just about as fast doing that as you could with somebody behind the counter, but they've eliminated, in this case, two positions behind the counter, put two machines in its place. That's AI. That's what it's doing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you know, my son and I, it's funny, this summer we were going to some sports tournament somewhere, and we stopped at a McDonald's that had recently been sort of rehabbed, I guess, for lack of a better term. And they had that, you walk up, and they have like a wall-sized menu you can go through, punching your whole order. And there was only one person that would come by and man the counter occasionally if somebody had a problem. Yeah, that saves a lot of workers and money.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so my thought is, okay, why can't government do the same thing? Or are they even, and you know more about this than I do, or are we even looking at that? Or is it just because, you know, governments, I said this a moment ago, but government's a lot like church. We've always done it this way, so we just keep doing it this way. When, in fact, they could look at ways to streamline things, and the question is, are they?
SPEAKER 06 :
That I can't give you a 100% answer on, but yes, I would think very much so. Um, they, they have to see the cost benefits doing stuff like that. And again, like we were talking about, maybe it was last week, you know, we're seeing a drop off in the hiring of younger people right now. And you're, you're hearing this more people are talking about how college graduates are having a harder time finding a job or finding a job because, um, there's analyst type roles that they typically take coming out of college. That's where AI is creeping in more on the job market because you're finding people with a little more experience can prompt AI to get the things they need quickly and they can do things easily and it makes the workplace more efficient and I would think people probably get paid a little bit better as a result.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and by the way, I don't think you're wrong in that. And I think if I were a young person, I would really be, you know, really be rethinking, you know, what am I studying? What am I going to do when I come out of college per se? And should I even be taking this track or should I shift gears and become an electrician or a plumber or a carpenter or something along those lines? Maybe at the end of the day, maybe this career path I picked is, isn't turning out to be so great after all, because when I get out, AI is going to be doing my job instead of me.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's very possible. And those other job paths are excellent job paths, too. And there's a dearth of CPAs out there right now. And I would think some young kids that, and look, will AI step into some of that world? Sure. But I've talked to my CPA buddies, and I want to say that they're saying the CPA world is understaffed by hundreds of thousands compared to what it should be. And it's, I mean, that could be a, that's a great career path for people, I would think. And my father-in-law, having owned a couple of body shops, I mean, before he sold them and retired, one of his complaints was, you know, we can't find young people to come in.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right, not enough help.
SPEAKER 06 :
He said the schools have stopped teaching the trade businesses they used to teach in high school.
SPEAKER 07 :
He is correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because not every kid, my father-in-law, God bless him, he never finished high school. He's like, this isn't for me. I'm great with my hands. I'm good at working on cars, and I love it. And he had a great career. You know, he had two body shops and did well. Good for him. Yeah, yeah, but he took advantage of those opportunities that high school presented while he was still there to enhance his craft, so to speak.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm. So, you know, really quick, along these lines, and I don't know, this is one thing I didn't study much of today, are, I mean, what's the scuttlebutt on how long this might last as far as a shutdown is concerned?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, so, yeah. So the guys that I've talked to and some of the policy analysis I've looked at, these people are very much in touch with people on Capitol Hill and the people on the different staffs. They're talking about, I think the Republicans have a, not a Congress, a group gathering over the weekend in Sea Island, Georgia, maybe, something like that, that has been scheduled for months. And they think that coming out of that, there's probably going to be an agreement, and you're probably looking at a Monday-Tuesday type shutdown.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ending.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so not that far.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, and that would put it around, what, like, Seven days.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, roughly. Roughly. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So along those lines, so historically, the average shutdown. So they really shutdowns really started in 1980. There's an attorney general named Benjamin Civilletti. He worked for the Carter administration, I believe. And he said that until Congress agreed on a spending bill. the federal government couldn't operate. And so that's what really started the process that became government shutdowns. But it wasn't until a decade later, basically, this is from the research I've done. And if somebody thinks I'm wrong, they can tell me, but it wasn't until like 1990 that that decision was actually strictly adhered to and funding gaps started to cause government shutdowns. So, I went back and did all the math from 1990 on. There's been a total of one, two, three, four, five, six shutdowns. The last one happened at the end of 2018 going into 2019. But the average shutdown has lasted about 14 days. Now, there were a couple that happened over the course of a weekend. I didn't count because that's not really a shutdown. So basically what you're looking at is the average return of the S&P 500 a year later is 21%. Wow. And that's happened five out of six times the S&P 500 has gone up a year later. The average return for the S&P from 1928 to 2025 on an annual basis is 9.5%. So that's more than double. For the NASDAQ, the average return is 26%.
SPEAKER 07 :
So then where does this narrative come in that it's always bad for the stock market if it's not? Because it's not, from what you're saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's not at all. I mean, and for the small cap Russell 2000, the average return a year later is 15.5%. And that's versus a typical like 10.4. And the NASDAQ, by the way, that 26% is versus a typical 10%. I don't know where that narrative comes in. I've seen people cherry pick a couple of charts. that the one that shows up being negative here and there, but they don't look at the data on a broader basis. And so they're not, they're not really presenting the whole story. And my fear is that it's because they're going for, you know, whatever works to get people the most worked up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, whatever the narrative is, that's what they're trying to promote.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Yeah. And so they're trying to get eyeballs. Yeah. And so that, That's what's happening. But, yeah, actually, it's turned out very well for investors whenever the government shuts down. But just, you know, in terms of the average return while the shutdown happens for the S&P 500, it's a little under 3%, similar for the NASDAQ and pretty much right on the money for the Russell 2000.
SPEAKER 07 :
In the market close today, I mean, everything ended up – it started slow, but it ended up up today. The Dow Jones, the S&P, the NASDAQ, the Russell, I mean, everything is up today. Nothing went down, proving your point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so part of that is going into it, you get the whole, oh, my God, the economy is going to tank. This is going to get people worked up, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then what happens is like today, it already started to come out that, hey, both sides see a path toward fixing their differences and getting things done, getting the government back open again.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I guess the way I look at it is at the end of the day, if we're somehow reducing government workforce, therefore saving money inside of government, whether it's $100,000 or $300,000, at the end of the day, if there's a payroll cut in government, as you know, that payroll cut can go to all sorts of other things that hopefully at the end of the day save us money, budgetarily speaking, which is good for the economy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Completely, and maybe you don't have to borrow as much down the road, which brings down borrowing costs, which helps everybody in the country, because to raise money when you have to in the future, if you don't have to borrow as much, you're not going to be as charged as much on interest. Along those lines, by the way, there is still a narrative out there that foreign investors no longer want to invest in America. Over the last three months, the amount of foreign money flowing into U.S. Treasuries has hit a record high each month, just FYI. That's U.S. Treasury data. I'm not making this up. People can go look it up. on their own. But that narrative has changed.
SPEAKER 07 :
So that's another one that's not, I mean, again, these narratives get pushed out there and, you know, often wonder, you know, how and why, although I don't think I wonder too much. I think I know where a lot of these come from. Anything we can do to try to be naysayers in regards to who's in office right now they're going to do. And this whole idea that, oh, we're, you know, we're just not going to have the, we're not going to have the outside investors that we once would. There's no way we're going to fund everything. We can't get other countries to invest. Reality is they are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Reality is they are. Again, the money dipped at first, but ever since, it's gone straight up. And it started to dip after April, the tariff announcement, but now it's come way back. And like I said, for the last three months, it has made record highs. So foreign investors want to own U.S. treasuries.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And, you know, it's funny because I talked to several folk, my son included, where it's like, yeah, no matter what other countries are doing, as much as you may not like what happens here, even in the U.S., at the end of the day, we're still the best deal going, period.
SPEAKER 06 :
I certainly think so. I mean, speaking for myself, if I had the option of living in China or living in Russia or living in the U.S. I think France, I have very fond memories of France, of having visited that country, but they've got an 85% tax rate. Do I want to go live in France? I don't think so.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no. Yeah, no. I mean, I can tell you the answer to that. No. In fact, I've traveled around, haven't been to every country around the world, but I've been to a lot, Scott, and I will tell you that there's not a single place that I've ever visited where I would say, you know what, I'd rather live here than home.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what? Our system isn't perfect, but it's never been perfect. But as Americans, we figured out. And there are checks and balances in the government, and they swing one way or another. But I've got to tell you, our forefathers, when they designed the system, they did a pretty darn good job. And what they put together, I think it's benefited a lot of people. And capitalism... has also benefited a lot of people. It's a system that has worked far better than other systems all over the world.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, Scott, how do folks find you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, sure. Bent Pine Capital. You can check me out on Twitter, LinkedIn, or Substack under C. Scott Garlis.
SPEAKER 07 :
Always a joy, Scott. Appreciate your time. Appreciate you taking it for us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, anytime, John. Thanks so much for your time. All right, man.
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All right, one article that I read this morning I wanted to finish up on because this one comes up quite a bit on not only this program but my Saturday program, Drive Radio. The Colorado Department of Transportation, CDOT, has officially, now they've, I guess, unofficially or they've had videos out on this in the past when it comes to zipper merging, but they have officially announced that they support the zipper merge, updating its standards on September the 22nd. The zipper merge asks drivers to use both lanes up to the point where the lanes come together, then take turns merging like the teeth of a zipper. San Lee, a CDOT traffic engineer, says the approach makes fuller use of available roadway capacity, smooth speeds, and creates a safer environment for both motorists and workers. Use both lanes, Lee said. Look over, make sure you merge in safely, use the capacity of both lanes all the way up to the merge point. In fact, what they're going to start doing now is putting up more signs and try to do some more awareness through commercials and so on to make people realize that zipper merging is the correct way to do it. For those of you listening, most of my listeners already know this. But pass this along. If you know somebody that doesn't zipper merge, in other words, and I see this happen all the time, you see where there's a construction or it's just a natural merge lane that's going to end. And you constantly see people not getting into that lane, in fact, purposely getting out of that lane. And these are the people that really drive me nuts. They'll stop in that lane, block all the traffic that wants to go all the way up and zip or merge because they're going to give the 100 yards or more in some cases. necessary to merge in now. I don't know why. I guess they're fearful that they can't merge into that zipper end of things, so they feel like they need to go ahead and stop traffic and merge in way back when they don't need to. Those people drive me nuts, by the way. That is one of my biggest pet peeves. It's like you've got the rest of the lane all the way up to the front of the line, which is what you're supposed to do, But a half a mile back, quarter mile back, eighth of a mile back, whatever it is, they'll decide that they need to stop fully and then get into the other lane, all the while stopping traffic in doing so. And then, of course, as you all know, when one does it, then another does it and another does it. And my point is CDOT now – is going to try to get rid of some of those lengthy backups as much as they possibly can. Zipper merging, by the way, reduces that, according to this traffic engineer, 40%.
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40%.
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So the key now is going to get people to realize that zipper merging is not cutting in line. It is correct way to drive. It's the safe way to drive. And what we now need to do is try to get this message out to more people that that's how it's supposed to work. And here's my thought. if you don't like zipper merging and you can see one's coming up way in the distance then you know what get in one of the other two lanes stay out of the other lane let the people that want to zipper merge and know how to zipper merge do it correctly but here's the thing when you're in line and you're at that point where somebody needs to get you know it's every other car is how it's supposed to work if you're going to do what i just said then be aware that you need to allow that room to let those other people in, and they're not cutting in line. They're doing it exactly the way they're supposed to. They're the smart drivers. They're the savvy drivers. And, again, I think some people just feel like, well, I don't want to be that rude person cutting in line. You're not. You're doing it exactly the way traffic engineers, and in this case now CDOT, is saying to do. And it's funny. Kenny Martinez, a Denver resident who frequently drives down York Street on his way to Denver Tech Center, was unaware of the zipper merging policy and how it can improve the flow of traffic. Not knowing the policy, absolutely thought it would be inappropriate to just get in line. Martinez said, if it were common knowledge, I feel like it would be appropriate to utilize both lanes all the way up to the merging point. CDOT is attempting to make the zipper merge common knowledge. They already have signs at the entrances to Interstate 25 from 6th Avenue telling drivers to use both lanes in congestions and to take turns, form a lane, so on and so forth. Again, More education is going to be necessary for people to understand that this isn't okay. In fact, it's not just okay. It is the proper way to drive. You need to be doing this. You're not blocking anybody. You're not cutting in line. You're not being a jerk in the way that you drive. You're actually doing it the way that you're supposed to. So here's my recommendation to all of you as listeners. Spread the word. We already have enough traffic problems in this Denver metro area. You guys all know that. We need more lane miles. We're not going to get more lane miles, so we've got to utilize whatever we have right now. So this is one of those ways to make traffic flow better. And literally, I see every single day, because there are several places I drive where there are places where you can zipper merge. They're by design, by the way. And I will tell you, the vast majority of drivers won't use them. For example, there's a zipper merge at I-70 heading west at about Kipling. And nobody will zip or merge that left lane. They'll even say lane ends in a thousand feet, thousand feet. OK, roughly a quarter mile, not quite a quarter mile, but pretty close to it. And I will tell you how many people will automatically get over at the sign that says there's a thousand feet of this lane left. And yet they move over. It's like you can drive all the way to the end, folks, and zip or merge in. That's how this is designed. But they won't do it. And by the way, the worst day for that particular end of things, that particular part of traffic, is on Saturdays when I go home from the station. Because a lot of people this time of year, they're going up to see fall colors and ski season starts and so on. So Saturdays in that particular area, it's the worst day for that particular end of things, that particular lane. And rarely does anybody drive all the way to the end. I do. I stay in the left lane, drive all the way to the end. I merge in. There's always somebody to sleep at the wheel, by the way, so it's never a big deal getting pulled into traffic. But I cannot tell you how many people will not use that lane. As soon as they see the sign that says 1,000 feet left, they're merging in at that point. And in a lot of cases, they stop, literally stop on the highway. Block traffic so they can merge in where they can keep traffic flowing by going all the way to the end. So please pass this along. Let people know that zipper merging is the correct way to drive. And CDOT is now going to advertise that. They've talked about it now for several years, but they now have made official statements. They're making it a part of their ad campaigns. They want people to zipper merge. So please pass that along. Veteran Windows and Doors. One thing to pass along as well is cut out that middleman. That's exactly what Veteran Windows and Doors does. Dave cuts out the middleman, takes that window and door directly to you, right from the manufacturer, Provia, straight to you. That's the way it works. And he cuts out the middleman, saving you money along the way. Give him a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, a couple more stories that I didn't get to today that I will try to get to tomorrow is there was some news out on what manufacturers are going to do in regards to EVs because they know that sales are automatically going to drop now that the federal credit has ended. If I get time tomorrow, I should be able to talk about that. I've got a lot of great guests lined up for tomorrow as well. Steve House will be with me during Hour 1, so stay tuned for that. Have a great night, though. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Join Logan Sekulow as he delves into the tragic events of the recent synagogue attack on Yom Kippur in Manchester, UK. Discover how this shocking occurrence has impacted the global Jewish community and learn about the political responses from both Israel and the UK. Steve Wiggins provides insightful biblical context, revealing the deep connections between historical covenants and the current political climate in Israel.
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This is Logan Sekulow. On today's show, we've got the latest details on the deadly synagogue attack on Judaism's holiest day.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow. It is a very interesting day to start off this show. We had planned some different content today, but a lot of it was going to be planned around talking about Israel because today, of course, is the Jewish holiest of holy days, Yom Kippur. the day of atonement, the day of where you are going to, we'll talk about this in detail. We'll go through some of those where you go and make peace, where the Jewish people make peace with God. Obviously, this is a holiday celebrated in Judaism. Some Christians have made their own version of it as well as, of course, this would have been a holiday that Jesus would have celebrated as well as someone who practiced Judaism. Um, This comes under the really unfortunate news that this morning that outside of a synagogue in Manchester in Heaton Park in the UK, there was an attack that left at least two people dead, three if you include the attacker, using a car as a weapon as well as knives. And this has not become sadly too uncommon in the world right now. Now, of course, in the UK, the sort of crime involving stabbing and stabbing has become a much, much bigger problem as guns are not easily acceptable or accessible. Now, I do have to say at least a thanks to the police force there that was able to really take down this attacker very quickly. I mean, unfortunately, of course, you have multiple people left dead. And I can't tell you how horrible that was to wake up to a text this morning from our producer to see that as we were planning out this show late last night. But they were able to take out that attacker very, very quickly. And of course, this again, like I said, is on the holiest of holy days as we also approach the anniversary of October 7th next week. This is not something that you could just turn a blind eye to. We need to be looking at what's going on around the world. And look, there are other things happening in America. We know that there's the government shutdowns and there's all of that. But this is life or death here, people. This is what's actually happening in the streets. This is what happened to your brothers and sisters. They are under attack. Christians we know are under attack. Jewish people are under attack around the world right now, and it's being stoked, and the fermentation of it is strong, whether that's from Americans or the West in general. Of course, at the heart of it is what's going on in Israel. We're going to take calls and comments about it. We're also going to hear from the Prime Minister of the UK, of course, Starmer, who you're going to hear from. Of course, he made a couple of different statements, made a statement today, of course, saying how horrible it was. But we can't not forget that just a week or two ago, they were pledging their support behind a Palestinian state and what that could look like. And that was even before you had the deal in place or the deal potential that President Trump and benjamin netanyahu and now even members of the palestinian authority have said they want to go with this was uh a really hard time and this is what happens um when you don't take these kind of moments very seriously and again you may go uh this isn't uh you know our breaking news this isn't what's happening in america it's not that far away people this is uh a short flight away for most of us to understand this very western society this is manchester uk this is uh You know, working class areas. These are areas where people, lots of Jewish people there, too, a thriving Jewish population there. And now they are under attack on their holiest of holy days. Not shocking that something could happen today, sadly, because that is the track record. People attack on these days that they know are very important. A lot of people may not even go to synagogue. They may not even find themselves religious, but find themselves at their local synagogue today out of tradition, out of honoring their families, or maybe out of a call from God. I saw some people say that too, saying, you know what, maybe it's the two days of the year where the Jewish people feel like they can be themselves. So we need to talk more about that coming up on the third segment of the show. So next time we're going to break this down, you're going to hear more from Starmer. But we're going to have a friend of ours, Steve Wiggins, who runs a great ministry, but is also a really great almost apologist on biblical Israel and its impact on modern Israel and what we really need to be doing to get around and support our Jewish brothers and sisters. Let's talk about that coming up in the next segment. Check us out, aclj.org. You can give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to Seculo. I need to restate some of the facts. Of course, we are talking about the attack on a synagogue in Manchester in the UK. This is an area, like I said, has a large Jewish population. This is the Heaton Park Synagogue, Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, Manchester. It's northern England this morning. The attack took place, again, of course, on what is today, which is Yom Kippur, the holiest of holy days in the Jewish calendar. I know a lot of people, obviously my family, that celebrate. are celebrating that honor today. It's the day of atonement, the day you get right with God. A lot of people who follow Judaism, this is the day that they are in the synagogue. So think of this as sort of the Easter and Christmas of your church service in terms of the crowds that arrive. Many of these synagogues actually have movable walls to expand during these high holy days. This happens in the UK where the growing anti-Semitism is happening there like it's happened here. And I love it there. It's one of my favorite places in the world. And when this kind of attack happens, we need to think globally, not just what's happening locally. Look what happened to our brothers and sisters also in the LDS church just a week ago. This is becoming all too common that we are dealing with these attacks. that we are dealing with true life and death scenarios just by attending your place of worship. And maybe that we don't have the details of specifically why this person did what they did, but there's also reports that they had alternate weapons on them, maybe bombs, maybe other ways. We know that they were currently trying to clear the area and to clear the body because they know that they were able to isolate it, take him down. This is something that was still being addressed the last time we looked. I do want to give you a little bit of a flashback and what's going on this morning. So this is from Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who has had a lot like when I was back, I was in London, I guess it was back in July. was under a lot of stress. There was talk right then that his administration was about to crumble. In the UK, it's parliamentary. They switch people out very quickly, very easily. It's very unlike what happens in America. So it wouldn't be uncommon for him to have been ousted. And that talk seemed to have calmed down a little bit over the last few months. I mean, it was at a peak over the summer. But I want you to hear from him, of course, saying all the right things just this morning. Go ahead.
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The attack in Manchester this morning is absolutely shocking and all of our thoughts are with those affected. I'm on my way back to London. When I arrive, I will chair an emergency Cobra meeting. I'm already able to say that additional police assets are being deployed to synagogues across the country and we will do everything to keep our Jewish community safe. I've spoken to Mark Gardner of the CST and Andy Burnham, mayor of Manchester, and I want to thank the emergency services for the speed of their response.
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Okay, so he does want to thank the emergency service for the speed of their response, and I said that earlier. I say the same thing. This could be a much, much worse situation. Still ends, not just with bloodshed, but with death of innocent people trying to just practice their faith. And whether that's your faith or not shouldn't matter. Of course, we pray for the salvation of all people, including all of the Jewish people. We've been involved with Jews for Jesus and all of those type things since our founding. So you know what? We obviously pray for all of our friends and family around the world, people that we want to come to the Lord. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to practice how you worship, especially on these kind of days. These days where even people who are Christians may visit their local synagogue, may respect the tradition that they grew up on, Many of you maybe know it from things in pop culture. How many times Yom Kippur is mentioned in pop culture? The scenes out of movies like The Jazz Singer with Neil Diamond. You may remember those moments. of them in synagogue. Of course, I'm by myself today, so I understand this show is going to be a little different. But in the next segment, I'm going to be joined by my friend Steve Wiggins. You remember him from the band Big Tent Revival. For the last 30 years, 20 years or so, post Big Tent, he has been spending his time as a pastor, as someone building ministries. And he is someone I go to quite a bit in this conversation. He also has some Jewish background and heritage, so it's close to home for him. where right now we're seeing a pretty big spin. And look, I was watching a lot of it last night. I can't help but hate watch sometimes. And that's, you know, maybe today when the day you're supposed to be fasting, maybe today's the day I fast from, from watching Candace Owens. Maybe today's the day I fast from watching, uh, some of these people who are just fermenting hate, uh, for the Jewish people. And I'm not talking about people that are going after, uh, Israel, the country, and are saying that they disagree with the politics of it. I'm talking about how clearly that they are stirring up, uh, incidents that now involve life and death. And again, I can't help the fact that sometimes my Instagram feed or my ex feed shows me these clips and I send them to my friends. Can you believe this is what they're saying? How do we talk about this? How do we fight back against this? Well, it's a lot easier when you have Keir Starmer out there saying, you know, we need to, you know, we need to, you know, this is all horrible. We're going to, we're going to spend money and put assets in front of synagogues. Well, this was just two weeks ago. From Sturmer, this was obviously in that moment when a few of the countries in Europe got together and said, you know what? Now's the time. Now's the time, two years almost after the October 7th attack where thousands of people were murdered, thousands of Jews were murdered for going to a music festival or living on a kibbutz by Hamas. Now's the time. Just say, let's start the pathway to a Palestinian state. Again, remember this was before the deal President Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu put out just a couple days ago. And look, I tell you, I question a lot of all of those things. It's not like I'm sitting here blindly supporting anyone. But let's hear from Keir Starmer. You just heard from him from this morning. Let's flash back to September 21st, just a couple weeks ago.
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In the face of the growing horror in the Middle East, We are acting to keep alive the possibility of peace and a two-state solution. That means a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state. At the moment, we have neither. Ordinary people, Israeli and Palestinian, deserve to live in peace, to try to rebuild their lives free from violence and suffering.
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And of course, that sounds good. Why wouldn't we support that? Well, because these are the moments that happen when you start down this very dangerous road. Now, the new plan President Trump has put in place and Benjamin Netanyahu, there is an eventual down the road securing of an area that could become a Palestinian state. Now, that is after you have someone like Tony Blair and some of these other people come in and kind of remake what that entire region looks like and have to spend a lot of time reeducating people. Because, of course, I believe that Israelis and Palestinians should be able to live in peace. And you know where they have lived in peace for a long time? Israel, where there's plenty of people, plenty of Christians, plenty of Muslims, plenty of Jews, all living, the majority of them. Of course, there are fringe groups on all of these faiths and plenty of atheists as well. all living together in the only Western society, I'd say, in the Middle East, the only place that you would probably feel at home walking around. Sure, it has its own feeling and emotions, a lot of politics tied to it as well, but it's one of the few places that you would feel connected to. You cross a border on any other side and you will feel like you are transported, not necessarily in a good way. You're gonna be sitting there covering up your tattoos. You're gonna be sitting there hiding your cross or your Star of David. This also comes with, I told you that my wife and I went to the premiere of The House of David season two. And of course, you got to spend hours watching some pretty bold Jewish people fighting back. And when you have these moments like this morning, the most important part is to pray, is to pray for the Jewish people, pray for the people in Manchester right now and in the UK, as they are dealing with a lot of anti-Semitism, as much if not more than what we're dealing with here. I'd say you see it more in the streets there than I have here. I never felt unsafe when I was there, but you see more of the Palestinian rhetoric on the streets of... on the streets of London and those areas, just purely based on the way the city is set up. You may not live in a population like that where you're spending a lot of time walking around, talking to people. But I also know a lot of great people there and they don't stand for this. They are not here. You saw the hundreds of thousands of people that took to the streets to support even the rights of the people of the UK, their freedom of speech. And it's tough to talk about the UK because it They've made it kind of tough. When people are getting arrested, of course people get arrested here. We represent them for preaching on the streets. Of course that happens in the UK. But they're getting arrested for saying things that would be laughably controversial here. So we have to be real cognizant of this is not all the same. It's not all the way things are in America. But when you have somebody ram through, and look, that happens more in Europe than the UK, where you feel these cars were set up to ram areas. Also, again, a lot more population on the streets. The Christmas markets that are about to open up in just a few weeks, we've seen the attacks on those as well. And don't think that those attacks are not attacks on your faith, too. Of course they are. Of course they are. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. In the next segment, we're going to shift gears a little, not on topic, because this topic is still one we need to talk about. This is what I planned before this, you know, last night. And that was to bring in my friend, Steve Wiggins, who again was from Big Ten Revival, now is Groundworks Ministries. He's going to walk us through a little bit. We're going to talk to him about the importance of biblical Israel and why that still is in play with modern Israel. Remember Israel itself. This morning you may wake up and go, that's that big old question of why would God let some of these things happen and happen to these people, whether it's in our church, in synagogues, at the LDS church. But Israel alone, even the name, is to struggle with God. So we'll struggle with those questions a lot, but it happens. Go to ACLJ.org also right now to look at some great content. We'll be right back with Steve. Welcome back to Secular. Still waiting on Steve. We're going to try to connect with him. May have some connection issues going on right now. Again, as we're talking about the brutal attack this morning at a synagogue in Manchester in the UK, this happened, left multiple people dead, and including the attacker who was taken out very quickly, I have to say. The police force there did a good job when the fact that you had, it ended up just being, sadly, it's so crazy when we have to say, it just ended up being two people. Two innocent people who are just trying to attend their local house of worship on the holiest day of the year end up dead. Plus, of course, the person who was attacking them. Now, this happens because it's the holiest day of the year, because anti-Semitism is running wild, because there feels like there needs to be defense. As I talked about last week, there was an attack at a wedding here. I think it was like in New Hampshire, Connecticut, somewhere. None of the headlines read the truth. I sent it to Will, our producer, and I said, hey, look at this. This person ran into this service, this wedding party. This was an after party during the first dance. Targeted someone, yelled to the crowd, your children are safe, free Palestine, and then killed someone in cold blood. And that barely made any attention. That happened in America. Now you have the highest of holy days... For the Jewish people, the day of atonement, the day where you're supposed to be going to get peace with God. Many people fast. There's a lot of different traditions. Fasting is usually not enough or fasting is a option for you. It's really to just, like I said, to have some, it's kind of like a lint, if you will. I guess it's an easy way to put it for a couple of days, for a day, 25 hours or so. We are about to be joined by Steve Wiggins, my friend and founder of Groundworks Ministries. Steve, obviously we are waking up to what is another attack on a synagogue. This happened in Manchester, UK. I mean, we haven't even spoken this morning. But what I wanted to do with you today, someone who's kind of a bit of a biologist, a bit of someone that I've spent time talking about scripture with, is to walk people through a little bit Not just historical Israel, but how that ties in to the modern day Israel, as we've seen now, especially coming even from the conservative side, even from sort of that far conservative side that are now seemingly trying to not only lose support for Israel, but they seem like they're trying to rewrite the scripture.
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Well, I mean, that's exactly right. And it's a trend and it's a real issue that's going on in the world today, especially among evangelicals. I was recently invited to go to Israel in December. I think it's the 1st through the 8th to be a part of a conference that's put on by the State of Israel. And the purpose of that conference is to discuss ways to fight anti-Semitism. And maybe for the first time that I'm aware of, it's not fighting anti-Semitism in the world. It's fighting it within the evangelical community. And there are arguments, as we know, where I've heard even members of my own family say, well, we support the Jewish people, but we don't support Israel. And then you start asking them, well, what are you talking about and how can you separate these things? And they say, well, you know, the state of Israel shouldn't even exist. And and really the church is Israel. And I just stop and I think, what are you talking about? And and they say, yeah, I mean, the church is Israel and there is really no Israel there. And I say, so everybody that's a Christian is now Jewish? No, no, God doesn't have a plan for the Jewish people. And what happens is, is that people that don't know the Bible are being led by people who don't know the Bible well enough to teach it truthfully. And yet they're teaching as if it is truth, things that are not biblical. And if you want to go through what some of those things are, obviously we can do that now.
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I think we absolutely should. Because I've sent you clips and just been like, my mind being blown from people who I would have never guessed, and we're not calling anyone out, never would have guessed would have started to fall into this trap. Like I said, members of your own family, members of my family as well, that send me messages saying, you know, what about this? What about this? You know, what about this clip that went viral? And when I talked to you about it, you said, yeah, but they're wrong and here's why. And then I think I got a text that was like, you know, a page and a half long of exactly leading me through many different reasons. So I say, let them have it, Steve.
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Well, I don't know that I'm here to let them have it as much as we're just here to bear witness. What does the Bible say? And, you know, I suppose I just sort of jumped off into the question that you had asked, but I think it's important to just identify as you have already and to just say that you know, how tragic that it was to learn what was happening in Manchester, England today, and to realize that this is not an anomaly, that more and more, especially throughout Europe, it's becoming a baseline activity that people would hate Israel. And not just hate Israel, the state. This is the problem with this whole argument, because it comes out like, you know, we love Jewish people, but we don't love the state of Israel. But in the end, the people who fight against, you know, people in Manchester, they don't just take the state of Israel. They don't want Jews to be alive. They don't think they should exist at all. And so when you have within the church these arguments which come up, which are really anti-Semitic arguments. They're just spreading Jewish hatred within the church by saying that there is a difference between Jewish people and the state of Israel. And all that that really does is it just stirs up anti-Semitism. And so one of the arguments that we see and that we've discussed, and personally, I prefer, instead of just trying to grab them out of the sky, personally, I prefer to... you know kind of somebody asked me a question i said well here's a biblical answer to that but oftentimes we come back to the covenant between god and abraham and so a christian would say well this this covenant between god and abraham well this is just that's from a long time ago this has nothing to do with the nation of israel Well, the issue that we run into is that in Genesis chapter 12, when you see this covenant where the Lord's speaking to Abram all the way back from the Lech Lecha, you know, the great, you know, get yourself out and follow me. It just starts and it says in chapter 12 of Genesis verse one, it says, now the Lord said to Abram, get out of your country, from your family, from your father's house to a land that I will show you. and I will make you a great nation. So the first thing that the Lord says in this covenant is that I will make you a nation. So you can't say from that point on that when he says, and I will bless those who bless you, you can't say at this point, well, he's just talking to Abraham. If people bless Abraham, then God will bless him. No, he says there is a There is a nation which is going to come forth from you. So now the blessing now comes back to a nation of Israel. He says, get out of your country, from your family, from your father's house to the land that I will show you. And I will make you a great nation and I will bless you, meaning you being a great nation. And I will make your name great and you shall be a blessing. I think if you just look at the evidence of that right now, and you look at all of the great benefits of the world, which has come from and through the Jewish people, the world is blessed because the Jewish people have existed and that they continue to exist. You look at advances in medicine, advances in science, art, literature, motion pictures, music. I mean, you keep going through it all. For a people that really occupy a very small percentage of the world population, we have such a great enormity of blessing. Right. So how can you attribute that blessing to anything other than God's continued blessing upon the people of Israel, whether they're part of the nation of Israel or whether they're outside of the Israel?
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Steve, I want you to stick around, stick around for a minute. We have to go to a break right now. But when we get back, I want you to kind of wrap up. And then also Steve's going to tell you a bit about his organization and what they have going on at Groundwork. So we only take a break here for one minute. It's just one minute. Then we'll come back. Steve's going to be joining us, and we've got other guests coming on later on. So just stay tuned with us. We're back in one minute. Go to ACLJ.org. If you don't get us on your local station, be right back.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. This is the second half hour of the broadcast. If you are just tuning in right now, I'm going to encourage you, when we're done here, go back and listen to the last segment that we just did. The last segment of the first half hour we had with Steve Wiggins. Steve's still joining us right now. Steve, to kind of wrap up the conversation, Steve is a great resource, by the way, for biblical truth and for someone who I trust. And you have Groundworks Ministries, which is launching and growing really significant new projects coming up in just a few months. I know we've been talking about it. I wanted to give you a minute to not only wrap up what you were saying, but to also just give you time to plug, because I think it's really important for our audience who may tune in primarily for news, politics, culture, to really understand still the backbone of why we believe what we believe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure. Well, let me just start out by saying groundworksministries.com. That's our website, groundworksministries.com. Does this groundwork? Yes, it works. Is it one ministry? No, it's ministries. So groundworksministries.com. What we do is we lead people day by day, chapter by chapter through the Bible. And like you said, we have a lot of things that are growing that we're developing even now. The Bible says that we should be prepared always to give reason for the hope that is within us. Not just human reasoning, no. Biblical reason for the hope that is within us. Because what's interesting is that oftentimes opposition that you find toward the Word of God doesn't come from the world. It just comes from worldliness within Christianity. So it's important for each of us to walk closely with the Lord and to be taught by His Holy Spirit as we're reading the Word so that we can give reason, not just so we can debate, just so we can argue with people, The biblical truth ends debates, and that's exactly what we're headed for. You know, in Romans chapter 11, speaking of this anti-Semitism which is growing within the church, the apostle Paul even said, he says, I say then, has God cast away his people? Certainly not, for I'm also an Israelite of the seed of Abraham of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away his people whom he foreknew. And I think what a lot of people don't understand is, number one, how many Americans are living in the nation of Israel today. It's incredible. Hundreds of thousands. How many American citizens live there? It's amazing how many Christians live there. How many Jewish believers, Jewish people, Israelis, Israeli citizens who believe that Jesus is the Messiah. And they also live there. In the end times, when you look at the book of the Revelation, you know, the world's not being drawn to Cleveland. You understand that, right? It's all going down. It's all headed toward Jerusalem. He's driving the whole world to one place. And there is a reason why this nation has been established. And the last thing that I'll say is this, when considering people who say the nation of Israel shouldn't exist because they're not Christians, and as if you have to be a Christian to earn being in that land. In the days of Jeremiah, in Jeremiah 29, the Lord said that... There's going to be 70 years of exile because of sin within the people, the land. And there was 70 years of exile. And then he says, after 70 years, I'll cause it so that you can return. And sure enough, through a miracle of God, a pagan king says, hey, you Jews, if you want to go back to the land of Israel, rebuild your temple even. You can go. It's a miracle of God that it was happened. You understand there's no spiritual revival that happened prior to that. It's when God says it's time to turn the lights back on in Israel. That's when the lights come back on. There wasn't a revival among the Jewish people until over 100 years after the Babylonian exile started returning. And that happened when Ezra showed up with the word of God. And when they read the word of God to all of the people, then the people understood the truth of the word. Then you saw repentance. Then they're seeking the face of the Lord. Then they're humbling themselves. Israel's only been a nation again, right? After a long, almost 2000 year exile. It's only been a nation again. since 1948. So according to the Bible, I mean, if you just look at biblical history, there could be another 20 to 50 years before revival happens. So don't think that it can't happen or that it won't happen, but definitely don't get into the business of cursing and not blessing the people of Israel.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely, Steve. Thank you so much. We are just out of time, but go to Groundworks Ministries. We're going to link it all. Steve does incredible work. I hope you enjoyed it. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow, packed back half of the show. Rick Grinnell's joining us right now. Rick, obviously we're in the middle, or middle of day two, I guess, of government shutdown. And look, we've been talking a lot. The first half hour, really, up until right now, has been all about Israel, the holy days, of course, this attack that happened in Manchester. But I did want to pivot, because last night, I got a text even from you, and that we are in the middle of this government shutdown. I... We actually spent a good portion of the last segment talking about the arts and how the arts have majorly made a comeback at the Kennedy Center. There's been a bit of a change of tone, even coming from the mainstream media. You have seen, you were on CBS to announce, I loved that, on CBS this morning, announcing honors, and that cast of people on the couch was like, man, I've been wanting George Strain in this forever. They were so glowingly excited. Obviously, it's on their network. They're not going to like, But, you know, when there's the words President Trump involved, you never know what they're going to say. And they seemed largely very excited about this. And now you even have other content returning. You people who have been going after you, been going after the Kennedy Center say, well, you know what? We got to give it to Ambassador Grinnell when he is able to pull off some pretty big wins.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we were pretty excited over the last, I'd say, two or three weeks. We've had some really big wins. We're bringing back the Vienna Philharmonic, which hasn't been in Washington, D.C. at the Kennedy Center in 14 years. And we brought them back. We're bringing Sougar Ballet. You know, they haven't been here in decades. We're bringing in the Glenn Miller Orchestra. And then this past weekend, we had the gala, the Kennedy Center Gala, Black Tie, big fundraiser for the National Symphony, and we almost tripled the amount that we've raised literally breaking every fundraising record we've had for the gala and had 50 of the crowd brand new people so i think that people are beginning to say you know when you do big common sense programming as president trump wanted us to do you're going to get big support and we're finding that whether it's les mis or the sound of music which is on till sunday we're just bringing back the big common sense uh programming And I think it's really popular. This is what you're looking at right there is the Library of Congress. The young von Trapp singers who sing every night at the Kennedy Center utilized the foyer there and the acoustics. And so the kids got together and sang a little rendition. And it's glorious. I mean, it's really beautiful, especially in that room with all those acoustics.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And I'm so thrilled that you're doing this. I'm also thrilled that the arts are thriving. Like you said, when you do programming that can reach the masses, all of a sudden they show up, as you said. I think that's something that shouldn't be poo-pooed or laughed at or anything. And look at the content. It's not like you're bringing in things that anyone should be. This is what's coming to a lot of major cities, a lot of major theaters. And of course, the Kennedy Center should be providing that great content. Now, this does come at an interesting time. You're in the process of redoing the Kennedy Center, spending time raising money for it as well. But we are in the middle now of day two of this government shutdown. You've lived through these shutdowns before. I think we spent about an hour yesterday, Jordan and I, just breaking down, people, what this looks like. Because I think a lot of people who have never been... They've been through a government shutdown. They maybe just never knew they went through a government shutdown because they were not politically attuned to what was happening. And a lot of us over the last eight years, you could say 10 years, got a little bit more attention being paid to what was going on in the news. I even received texts from people who, you know what, maybe last time they were in their early 20s and now they're in their mid 30s and they're going, what does this mean? What does this mean? As someone who's lived through it, I want to give you that opportunity as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, newsflash, it's like a government shutdown every weekend, right? The government is shut down all weekend. Sometimes if you're looking at the Senate, it's usually a three or four day weekend every weekend. And so I don't think that this is going to be missed very much if it doesn't go on for that long. But, you know, one of the things I saw Bernie Moreno, my friend from Ohio, talk about how members of Congress, both the House and the Senate, should not get paid And what we're talking about is back pay once all of this is settled. You know, this is the kind of trickery that the government does, is that government bureaucrats are furloughed. They don't have to show up to work because it's a shutdown, but they all get their money back when this is done. So we at the Kennedy Center, we have a small portion of our staff, which is federal employees. bureaucrats, and that's federal employees who work on the Kennedy Center as a monument, because it's a monument to John F. Kennedy. So a small portion of our individuals are federal employees. I've told them, we're just going to keep paying you. We'll figure out the pay, but you got to show up to work because I know what's going to happen. And a week or two, they're going to figure it out. And then they want me to pay everybody back pay after they didn't show up. So I just said, show up. We're going to keep paying you. We're going to figure it out. But no one at the Kennedy Center is going to be furloughed.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's good to hear that the furloughs. But we do know this affects people. And like we said, and you brought up is for the mass majority of people. People, they're not feeling the effects of this yet. They aren't going to feel the effects of it. Likely, it'll get done before they do. Now, obviously, there is a group of people who their jobs have been furloughed, and President Trump this morning even kind of put out a statement going, well, this does give me the opportunity, and I think, look, this has been a bit of what people voted for with President Trump, is to look at these departments and go, okay, what is actually necessary? What are we doing here? Have we overbloated a lot of these departments? Now, I'm not for anyone losing their job. I think we need to be very clear about that, especially in these really tough times for a lot of people. But if the door opens, you're able to go, OK, now let's see who's really doing what needs to be done. It gives that opportunity to President Trump and his team to start making those cuts.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, I view it slightly a little bit differently in that the American taxpayers have a group of people, public servants, who work for them. And if we need to constantly right-size the government and make sure we don't need that many public servants, then they go find work somewhere else. I I don't feel bad about that at all because the reality is we've got a lot of people working really hard and the federal government and the state government and the local government is taking a lot of money. If it's not producing, then I would say let's right-size the government, not feel bad about it, We haven't done this in decades. We keep adding people. I can tell you just from my little perch at the Kennedy Center, we had massive numbers of people in different departments that hadn't been looked at. We have rooms that haven't been touched since 1973 inside the Kennedy Center. No revamping. And it's just outrageous that leaders allow themselves to just sit in seats and let things completely unfold without taking hold and asking the tough questions so i hope our politicians in washington are constantly saying and cabinet officials are saying what are we doing is this the appropriate number of people and when you let people go thank you for your service um this is all of our tax dollars let's not feel bad about it yeah
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's a good point. And I think that maybe I don't feel bad. We had a couple of callers call in that were like, you know, I'm President Trump's one of the biggest supporters. However, I'm furloughed right now and I'm nervous. And I get that. I get that understanding of being like, I'm nervous for my job. But you are right. It's a country where there are a lot of opportunities where people who are qualified for these jobs can go find other places of employment. You're right. Sadly, it had to come to this point. It wasn't that you had someone minding the shop, if you will, making sure that we were staying on track, that we weren't over-bloating these things. Like I said, you had rooms in the Kennedy Center that haven't been touched since the 70s. I think people would be appalled by that when it comes to what their funding is going to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, I don't think our forefathers ever envisioned that Washington, D.C. would be a city that is untouched by the economy or layoffs. It's supposed to be the capital city. It was supposed to be a city that you were never really from. You went there for a short period of time and then you went home. That was the whole vision. And now we have Washington, D.C. as a big, bustling city that never gets budget cuts. And so that wasn't the vision. to have a permanent bureaucracy, people who work for the federal government for 25 years. I think we've got to move a lot of these agencies outside of Washington, move them to the rest of the country, have different types of people who have the headquarters. I'm talking about the headquarters not being in Washington, D.C., and moving them outside. I think that would really benefit all of the taxpayers, and we need to make decisions for all of America.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not just so you don't have to spend less time in D.C. I feel like that's the you're like, we got to move these departments out of here. Why? Because Rick is like, oh, we got you muted.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hold on. Go ahead. Manhattan Beach would be a great place to put one of those agencies.
SPEAKER 03 :
Fantastic. And Nashville, too. Yeah, absolutely. We'll take it. We'll take all the people coming in. Rick, thanks for joining us today. I am really excited about what you're doing with the Kennedy Center. Of course, that's something, the arts is near and dear to my art, so it's always nice to have that connection. But I am very excited for new programming and for the... the tone to finally come down a little bit. People were going after you, were going after what was happening there, but I think they're at least even seeing the writing on the wall that you may have had a couple people say, we're not doing this, but for the mass majority of the people, and the mass majority of performers, they want to be involved in what you're doing at the Kennedy Center. We've got like 20 seconds, but go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, I appreciate that. It's a testament to all of the individuals at the Kennedy Center who are trying to get big, beautiful programming, things that are popular, the people that want to come see. Everyone is welcomed. Everyone should be coming.
SPEAKER 03 :
Awesome. Thanks, Rick, for joining us. When we get back, I want to hear from you, whether you want to respond to what Rick had to say about the shutdown or... the arts but of course we're going to continue our conversation about the attack in Manchester the synagogue the high holy days here that we are right now your support of Israel maybe the rights move away from supporting Israel what do you think is cause of that do you believe any of it's true give me a call 1-800-684-3110 now's the time to call in 1-800-684-3110 got a few lines open give us a call right now support the work of the ACLJ by the way you're not going to hear this kind of show anywhere else by going to ACLJ.org and making a donation today. Welcome back. Last segment of the day. We do have about four lines open right now. We had a few calls, but some of them dropped off in the last segment. So right now I'm going to encourage you to give me a call at 1-800-684-3110 before I take calls. We spent three-fourths of the show talking about what was going on in Manchester and really the growing rise of anti-Semitism around the world and what it's leading to. We saw the aftermath after October 7th, which was the immediately condemnation of Hamas and then how quickly, and we predicted it on this show, unfortunately, saying, hey, in a week or two, that's all going to change. You're going to have people like Bono and you two go from, we know who the bad guys are to a year later going, yeah, maybe we don't know. Maybe Israel is also one of the bad guys here. And look, no one wants to see death and destruction. No one wants to see war. No one wants to see bloodshed. I would much rather this war come to an end. The deal's on the table. It's been on the table now for a couple days. Hamas has yet to respond. There were some good movements early on. Now we are in the middle of Jewish high holy days. Silence is deafening right now, even with the push from other Palestinian leadership and a lot of the Arab countries, the Muslim countries that surround the Palestinian areas of Israel. They're pushing for this deal to happen. They want not only a permanent end to the war, they want this plan to move forward. But it's not what's happening right now. Why is that? Let's just see. I want to remain hopeful. I want to remain hopeful that this deal can get done. We can see it end to the war, at least for now. Because as we know, and as Steve said, this is a war that's been going on for thousands of years, and it's not going anywhere. But maybe we can bring it down for a little bit. Maybe it's going to be okay to travel with your friends and family to Israel. No, look, a lot of people are doing that. We have our offices there. We have the ACLJ Jerusalem. So I don't want to pretend like there aren't people going. I haven't gone personally since the attacks. I would love to. I'd love to take my kids. They need to see it. If you're a Christian, by the way, and you've never been. You have to. I would say it's not a mandatory for your salvation, but it will change the way you look at scripture. It will change the way you believe. Because when it's right in front of you, it's pretty hard to deny. It's pretty hard not to be able to picture all of it that went down. Of course, you have the high-tech cities of Tel Aviv, but then you have the old city of Jerusalem, and you have the areas that surround it, and it's all right there. Not in black and white on your pages, in living color. It's amazing. So let's take some calls. We have Warren who's calling in. Warren is a ACLJ champion. That's someone that gives on a recurring basis. They give essentially like a membership fee to be part of the ACLJ. They don't do anything else. They don't give a lot of perks. They do it because they just want to make sure that their support is always here for us. And what we do mainly is to try to keep all of our content outside of a paywall. We want to make sure you can share this with your friends. Warren, go ahead. Thanks for taking my call.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I wanted to comment on this replacement theology we're seeing in the right moving away from Israel. It's of the devil, obviously, because God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He has not changed his mind. I believe the church is his bride, and Israel is still the apple of his eye. He won't turn his back or replace them with anybody.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Warren, I couldn't agree more. And look, I have to say that the conversation coming out of the right. And, you know, I'll let some of these, you know, I would say the comedian bases, the Rogan bases that have come out and started questioning. They didn't grow up in this. They didn't grow up with this sort of support of Israel because it's obviously biblical as well. So though I don't like their position, I can at least understand why they're having this internal crisis. When you do see the imagery out of Gaza, it does break your heart. It should break your heart. But remember where this all started. However. When you see people who have been in the Christian conservative movement and proclaim the name of Jesus so aggressively, maybe to the point of where you start questioning sincerity, and I don't want to question anyone's faith or anyone's belief ever, whether you are a Christian, whether you're Jewish, whether you're Muslim, Buddhist, whatever it may be, whether you're an atheist. I'm not here to question your heart and your beliefs, but it's very hard for me to see people proclaiming the name of Jesus to love one another, to love your brothers and sisters. And then, of course, to spend this moment to not just blame Israel. But to take it out on the Jewish people, to start stoking fires of tropes that have been around for thousands of years, and even in this country for 100 plus years, including what happens in the entertainment industry. There's just so many things that we have fought so hard against, but still come up because of these very, very strong influencers that have millions and millions of people. And you start losing a lot of people on the conservative side when you start moving away. But there's a whole other group ready to take over. And that group, I'll be honest, is a little scary to me. Let's go ahead and take another call. Let's go to Ann, who's calling in Pennsylvania. This will probably be your last call, four calls. Last time you can call in, 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Call real quick with a quick comment. I'll try to get you in. Ann from Pennsylvania, go ahead.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you so much. You really touched my heart because I am dying to go to Israel, but for all the reasons that you pointed out. And so quickly, I wanted to say, you know, Israel, first of all, has been the one negotiating peace for years. Just ask the Jews in the Iron Dome. And then to jump here, because as Christians, we are descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And this is what you talked about for two segments. Thank you for the two greatest segments that I've listened to on the ACLJ. There's a spiritual aspect. for supporting Israel. Our alignment with Israel and the fact that the Arabs and the Americans and the Christians living side by side in Israel, and the fact that churches and synagogues, here we go again, continually being intact, well, I guess that proves there is something so special and spiritual between the two. OK, of Israel and America, Christians and Jews. And I guess all the Jewish contributions that your guest so eloquently pointed out. And now we have conservatives. And thank you for because I've been feeling this. And now the conservatives who are everything, all the aforementioned. Right. And now are even insisting that a Jew, that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. Yep. This is blowing my mind. Thank you guys. Love you guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
I feel the same way. And I'm not going to lie and say that I haven't spent a lot of time watching some of that content just with my mouth agape going, I can't believe this is what people are listening to and falling for. And look, thankfully that letter, you know, I don't want to trivialize the Charlie Kirk assassination. Um, Or pretend that I knew the guy. We've been in the room a couple times, a few times, emailed back and forth a few times. That was about it. We represented him here at the ACLJ, but I didn't know him. So I don't want to ever claim that. Because I see people who do claim that, and we see what happens. And what happens is you say, he wrote this letter to Benjamin Netanyahu. That letter comes out and it says everything we've been saying here. Which is that Israel, as much as I love and support Israel, they often fail in the PR side of things. And you'd think, by the way, if they were controlling the media, as those people say, that they wouldn't. But they don't do a great job. There is something lost in translation. We've been trying to fight that fight for decades. And Anne, I appreciate your call so much. that gives me hope and i hope it gives some of you hope who are listening today maybe woke up with that terrible news i've been in a funk uh all day kind of like i have as well go spend time with your family tonight go spend time with your friends pray for our friends in israel pray for the jewish community around the world pray for your christian friends pray for everybody by the way then they come to jesus but pray in general because we are in some dark times uh but there is hope and i see revival coming And as Steve Wiggins, who came to the show, I'm glad you liked that segment. I told Steve we're going to give him a whole show coming up soon. I'd love to have him on a lot more because he brings that biblical side to this that we desperately need. That being said, you can't hear a show like this anywhere else on the planet, and I really believe that. So I encourage you. We're not supported by major sponsors. We are supported exclusively by donors like you, people that give. Go to ACLJ.org. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
