
Join Logan Sekulow as he delves into the tragic events of the recent synagogue attack on Yom Kippur in Manchester, UK. Discover how this shocking occurrence has impacted the global Jewish community and learn about the political responses from both Israel and the UK. Steve Wiggins provides insightful biblical context, revealing the deep connections between historical covenants and the current political climate in Israel.
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This is Logan Sekulow. On today's show, we've got the latest details on the deadly synagogue attack on Judaism's holiest day.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow. It is a very interesting day to start off this show. We had planned some different content today, but a lot of it was going to be planned around talking about Israel because today, of course, is the Jewish holiest of holy days, Yom Kippur. the day of atonement, the day of where you are going to, we'll talk about this in detail. We'll go through some of those where you go and make peace, where the Jewish people make peace with God. Obviously, this is a holiday celebrated in Judaism. Some Christians have made their own version of it as well as, of course, this would have been a holiday that Jesus would have celebrated as well as someone who practiced Judaism. Um, This comes under the really unfortunate news that this morning that outside of a synagogue in Manchester in Heaton Park in the UK, there was an attack that left at least two people dead, three if you include the attacker, using a car as a weapon as well as knives. And this has not become sadly too uncommon in the world right now. Now, of course, in the UK, the sort of crime involving stabbing and stabbing has become a much, much bigger problem as guns are not easily acceptable or accessible. Now, I do have to say at least a thanks to the police force there that was able to really take down this attacker very quickly. I mean, unfortunately, of course, you have multiple people left dead. And I can't tell you how horrible that was to wake up to a text this morning from our producer to see that as we were planning out this show late last night. But they were able to take out that attacker very, very quickly. And of course, this again, like I said, is on the holiest of holy days as we also approach the anniversary of October 7th next week. This is not something that you could just turn a blind eye to. We need to be looking at what's going on around the world. And look, there are other things happening in America. We know that there's the government shutdowns and there's all of that. But this is life or death here, people. This is what's actually happening in the streets. This is what happened to your brothers and sisters. They are under attack. Christians we know are under attack. Jewish people are under attack around the world right now, and it's being stoked, and the fermentation of it is strong, whether that's from Americans or the West in general. Of course, at the heart of it is what's going on in Israel. We're going to take calls and comments about it. We're also going to hear from the Prime Minister of the UK, of course, Starmer, who you're going to hear from. Of course, he made a couple of different statements, made a statement today, of course, saying how horrible it was. But we can't not forget that just a week or two ago, they were pledging their support behind a Palestinian state and what that could look like. And that was even before you had the deal in place or the deal potential that President Trump and benjamin netanyahu and now even members of the palestinian authority have said they want to go with this was uh a really hard time and this is what happens um when you don't take these kind of moments very seriously and again you may go uh this isn't uh you know our breaking news this isn't what's happening in america it's not that far away people this is uh a short flight away for most of us to understand this very western society this is manchester uk this is uh You know, working class areas. These are areas where people, lots of Jewish people there, too, a thriving Jewish population there. And now they are under attack on their holiest of holy days. Not shocking that something could happen today, sadly, because that is the track record. People attack on these days that they know are very important. A lot of people may not even go to synagogue. They may not even find themselves religious, but find themselves at their local synagogue today out of tradition, out of honoring their families, or maybe out of a call from God. I saw some people say that too, saying, you know what, maybe it's the two days of the year where the Jewish people feel like they can be themselves. So we need to talk more about that coming up on the third segment of the show. So next time we're going to break this down, you're going to hear more from Starmer. But we're going to have a friend of ours, Steve Wiggins, who runs a great ministry, but is also a really great almost apologist on biblical Israel and its impact on modern Israel and what we really need to be doing to get around and support our Jewish brothers and sisters. Let's talk about that coming up in the next segment. Check us out, aclj.org. You can give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to Seculo. I need to restate some of the facts. Of course, we are talking about the attack on a synagogue in Manchester in the UK. This is an area, like I said, has a large Jewish population. This is the Heaton Park Synagogue, Hebrew Congregation Synagogue, Manchester. It's northern England this morning. The attack took place, again, of course, on what is today, which is Yom Kippur, the holiest of holy days in the Jewish calendar. I know a lot of people, obviously my family, that celebrate. are celebrating that honor today. It's the day of atonement, the day you get right with God. A lot of people who follow Judaism, this is the day that they are in the synagogue. So think of this as sort of the Easter and Christmas of your church service in terms of the crowds that arrive. Many of these synagogues actually have movable walls to expand during these high holy days. This happens in the UK where the growing anti-Semitism is happening there like it's happened here. And I love it there. It's one of my favorite places in the world. And when this kind of attack happens, we need to think globally, not just what's happening locally. Look what happened to our brothers and sisters also in the LDS church just a week ago. This is becoming all too common that we are dealing with these attacks. that we are dealing with true life and death scenarios just by attending your place of worship. And maybe that we don't have the details of specifically why this person did what they did, but there's also reports that they had alternate weapons on them, maybe bombs, maybe other ways. We know that they were currently trying to clear the area and to clear the body because they know that they were able to isolate it, take him down. This is something that was still being addressed the last time we looked. I do want to give you a little bit of a flashback and what's going on this morning. So this is from Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who has had a lot like when I was back, I was in London, I guess it was back in July. was under a lot of stress. There was talk right then that his administration was about to crumble. In the UK, it's parliamentary. They switch people out very quickly, very easily. It's very unlike what happens in America. So it wouldn't be uncommon for him to have been ousted. And that talk seemed to have calmed down a little bit over the last few months. I mean, it was at a peak over the summer. But I want you to hear from him, of course, saying all the right things just this morning. Go ahead.
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The attack in Manchester this morning is absolutely shocking and all of our thoughts are with those affected. I'm on my way back to London. When I arrive, I will chair an emergency Cobra meeting. I'm already able to say that additional police assets are being deployed to synagogues across the country and we will do everything to keep our Jewish community safe. I've spoken to Mark Gardner of the CST and Andy Burnham, mayor of Manchester, and I want to thank the emergency services for the speed of their response.
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Okay, so he does want to thank the emergency service for the speed of their response, and I said that earlier. I say the same thing. This could be a much, much worse situation. Still ends, not just with bloodshed, but with death of innocent people trying to just practice their faith. And whether that's your faith or not shouldn't matter. Of course, we pray for the salvation of all people, including all of the Jewish people. We've been involved with Jews for Jesus and all of those type things since our founding. So you know what? We obviously pray for all of our friends and family around the world, people that we want to come to the Lord. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to practice how you worship, especially on these kind of days. These days where even people who are Christians may visit their local synagogue, may respect the tradition that they grew up on, Many of you maybe know it from things in pop culture. How many times Yom Kippur is mentioned in pop culture? The scenes out of movies like The Jazz Singer with Neil Diamond. You may remember those moments. of them in synagogue. Of course, I'm by myself today, so I understand this show is going to be a little different. But in the next segment, I'm going to be joined by my friend Steve Wiggins. You remember him from the band Big Tent Revival. For the last 30 years, 20 years or so, post Big Tent, he has been spending his time as a pastor, as someone building ministries. And he is someone I go to quite a bit in this conversation. He also has some Jewish background and heritage, so it's close to home for him. where right now we're seeing a pretty big spin. And look, I was watching a lot of it last night. I can't help but hate watch sometimes. And that's, you know, maybe today when the day you're supposed to be fasting, maybe today's the day I fast from, from watching Candace Owens. Maybe today's the day I fast from watching, uh, some of these people who are just fermenting hate, uh, for the Jewish people. And I'm not talking about people that are going after, uh, Israel, the country, and are saying that they disagree with the politics of it. I'm talking about how clearly that they are stirring up, uh, incidents that now involve life and death. And again, I can't help the fact that sometimes my Instagram feed or my ex feed shows me these clips and I send them to my friends. Can you believe this is what they're saying? How do we talk about this? How do we fight back against this? Well, it's a lot easier when you have Keir Starmer out there saying, you know, we need to, you know, we need to, you know, this is all horrible. We're going to, we're going to spend money and put assets in front of synagogues. Well, this was just two weeks ago. From Sturmer, this was obviously in that moment when a few of the countries in Europe got together and said, you know what? Now's the time. Now's the time, two years almost after the October 7th attack where thousands of people were murdered, thousands of Jews were murdered for going to a music festival or living on a kibbutz by Hamas. Now's the time. Just say, let's start the pathway to a Palestinian state. Again, remember this was before the deal President Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu put out just a couple days ago. And look, I tell you, I question a lot of all of those things. It's not like I'm sitting here blindly supporting anyone. But let's hear from Keir Starmer. You just heard from him from this morning. Let's flash back to September 21st, just a couple weeks ago.
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In the face of the growing horror in the Middle East, We are acting to keep alive the possibility of peace and a two-state solution. That means a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state. At the moment, we have neither. Ordinary people, Israeli and Palestinian, deserve to live in peace, to try to rebuild their lives free from violence and suffering.
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And of course, that sounds good. Why wouldn't we support that? Well, because these are the moments that happen when you start down this very dangerous road. Now, the new plan President Trump has put in place and Benjamin Netanyahu, there is an eventual down the road securing of an area that could become a Palestinian state. Now, that is after you have someone like Tony Blair and some of these other people come in and kind of remake what that entire region looks like and have to spend a lot of time reeducating people. Because, of course, I believe that Israelis and Palestinians should be able to live in peace. And you know where they have lived in peace for a long time? Israel, where there's plenty of people, plenty of Christians, plenty of Muslims, plenty of Jews, all living, the majority of them. Of course, there are fringe groups on all of these faiths and plenty of atheists as well. all living together in the only Western society, I'd say, in the Middle East, the only place that you would probably feel at home walking around. Sure, it has its own feeling and emotions, a lot of politics tied to it as well, but it's one of the few places that you would feel connected to. You cross a border on any other side and you will feel like you are transported, not necessarily in a good way. You're gonna be sitting there covering up your tattoos. You're gonna be sitting there hiding your cross or your Star of David. This also comes with, I told you that my wife and I went to the premiere of The House of David season two. And of course, you got to spend hours watching some pretty bold Jewish people fighting back. And when you have these moments like this morning, the most important part is to pray, is to pray for the Jewish people, pray for the people in Manchester right now and in the UK, as they are dealing with a lot of anti-Semitism, as much if not more than what we're dealing with here. I'd say you see it more in the streets there than I have here. I never felt unsafe when I was there, but you see more of the Palestinian rhetoric on the streets of... on the streets of London and those areas, just purely based on the way the city is set up. You may not live in a population like that where you're spending a lot of time walking around, talking to people. But I also know a lot of great people there and they don't stand for this. They are not here. You saw the hundreds of thousands of people that took to the streets to support even the rights of the people of the UK, their freedom of speech. And it's tough to talk about the UK because it They've made it kind of tough. When people are getting arrested, of course people get arrested here. We represent them for preaching on the streets. Of course that happens in the UK. But they're getting arrested for saying things that would be laughably controversial here. So we have to be real cognizant of this is not all the same. It's not all the way things are in America. But when you have somebody ram through, and look, that happens more in Europe than the UK, where you feel these cars were set up to ram areas. Also, again, a lot more population on the streets. The Christmas markets that are about to open up in just a few weeks, we've seen the attacks on those as well. And don't think that those attacks are not attacks on your faith, too. Of course they are. Of course they are. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. In the next segment, we're going to shift gears a little, not on topic, because this topic is still one we need to talk about. This is what I planned before this, you know, last night. And that was to bring in my friend, Steve Wiggins, who again was from Big Ten Revival, now is Groundworks Ministries. He's going to walk us through a little bit. We're going to talk to him about the importance of biblical Israel and why that still is in play with modern Israel. Remember Israel itself. This morning you may wake up and go, that's that big old question of why would God let some of these things happen and happen to these people, whether it's in our church, in synagogues, at the LDS church. But Israel alone, even the name, is to struggle with God. So we'll struggle with those questions a lot, but it happens. Go to ACLJ.org also right now to look at some great content. We'll be right back with Steve. Welcome back to Secular. Still waiting on Steve. We're going to try to connect with him. May have some connection issues going on right now. Again, as we're talking about the brutal attack this morning at a synagogue in Manchester in the UK, this happened, left multiple people dead, and including the attacker who was taken out very quickly, I have to say. The police force there did a good job when the fact that you had, it ended up just being, sadly, it's so crazy when we have to say, it just ended up being two people. Two innocent people who are just trying to attend their local house of worship on the holiest day of the year end up dead. Plus, of course, the person who was attacking them. Now, this happens because it's the holiest day of the year, because anti-Semitism is running wild, because there feels like there needs to be defense. As I talked about last week, there was an attack at a wedding here. I think it was like in New Hampshire, Connecticut, somewhere. None of the headlines read the truth. I sent it to Will, our producer, and I said, hey, look at this. This person ran into this service, this wedding party. This was an after party during the first dance. Targeted someone, yelled to the crowd, your children are safe, free Palestine, and then killed someone in cold blood. And that barely made any attention. That happened in America. Now you have the highest of holy days... For the Jewish people, the day of atonement, the day where you're supposed to be going to get peace with God. Many people fast. There's a lot of different traditions. Fasting is usually not enough or fasting is a option for you. It's really to just, like I said, to have some, it's kind of like a lint, if you will. I guess it's an easy way to put it for a couple of days, for a day, 25 hours or so. We are about to be joined by Steve Wiggins, my friend and founder of Groundworks Ministries. Steve, obviously we are waking up to what is another attack on a synagogue. This happened in Manchester, UK. I mean, we haven't even spoken this morning. But what I wanted to do with you today, someone who's kind of a bit of a biologist, a bit of someone that I've spent time talking about scripture with, is to walk people through a little bit Not just historical Israel, but how that ties in to the modern day Israel, as we've seen now, especially coming even from the conservative side, even from sort of that far conservative side that are now seemingly trying to not only lose support for Israel, but they seem like they're trying to rewrite the scripture.
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Well, I mean, that's exactly right. And it's a trend and it's a real issue that's going on in the world today, especially among evangelicals. I was recently invited to go to Israel in December. I think it's the 1st through the 8th to be a part of a conference that's put on by the State of Israel. And the purpose of that conference is to discuss ways to fight anti-Semitism. And maybe for the first time that I'm aware of, it's not fighting anti-Semitism in the world. It's fighting it within the evangelical community. And there are arguments, as we know, where I've heard even members of my own family say, well, we support the Jewish people, but we don't support Israel. And then you start asking them, well, what are you talking about and how can you separate these things? And they say, well, you know, the state of Israel shouldn't even exist. And and really the church is Israel. And I just stop and I think, what are you talking about? And and they say, yeah, I mean, the church is Israel and there is really no Israel there. And I say, so everybody that's a Christian is now Jewish? No, no, God doesn't have a plan for the Jewish people. And what happens is, is that people that don't know the Bible are being led by people who don't know the Bible well enough to teach it truthfully. And yet they're teaching as if it is truth, things that are not biblical. And if you want to go through what some of those things are, obviously we can do that now.
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I think we absolutely should. Because I've sent you clips and just been like, my mind being blown from people who I would have never guessed, and we're not calling anyone out, never would have guessed would have started to fall into this trap. Like I said, members of your own family, members of my family as well, that send me messages saying, you know, what about this? What about this? You know, what about this clip that went viral? And when I talked to you about it, you said, yeah, but they're wrong and here's why. And then I think I got a text that was like, you know, a page and a half long of exactly leading me through many different reasons. So I say, let them have it, Steve.
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Well, I don't know that I'm here to let them have it as much as we're just here to bear witness. What does the Bible say? And, you know, I suppose I just sort of jumped off into the question that you had asked, but I think it's important to just identify as you have already and to just say that you know, how tragic that it was to learn what was happening in Manchester, England today, and to realize that this is not an anomaly, that more and more, especially throughout Europe, it's becoming a baseline activity that people would hate Israel. And not just hate Israel, the state. This is the problem with this whole argument, because it comes out like, you know, we love Jewish people, but we don't love the state of Israel. But in the end, the people who fight against, you know, people in Manchester, they don't just take the state of Israel. They don't want Jews to be alive. They don't think they should exist at all. And so when you have within the church these arguments which come up, which are really anti-Semitic arguments. They're just spreading Jewish hatred within the church by saying that there is a difference between Jewish people and the state of Israel. And all that that really does is it just stirs up anti-Semitism. And so one of the arguments that we see and that we've discussed, and personally, I prefer, instead of just trying to grab them out of the sky, personally, I prefer to... you know kind of somebody asked me a question i said well here's a biblical answer to that but oftentimes we come back to the covenant between god and abraham and so a christian would say well this this covenant between god and abraham well this is just that's from a long time ago this has nothing to do with the nation of israel Well, the issue that we run into is that in Genesis chapter 12, when you see this covenant where the Lord's speaking to Abram all the way back from the Lech Lecha, you know, the great, you know, get yourself out and follow me. It just starts and it says in chapter 12 of Genesis verse one, it says, now the Lord said to Abram, get out of your country, from your family, from your father's house to a land that I will show you. and I will make you a great nation. So the first thing that the Lord says in this covenant is that I will make you a nation. So you can't say from that point on that when he says, and I will bless those who bless you, you can't say at this point, well, he's just talking to Abraham. If people bless Abraham, then God will bless him. No, he says there is a There is a nation which is going to come forth from you. So now the blessing now comes back to a nation of Israel. He says, get out of your country, from your family, from your father's house to the land that I will show you. And I will make you a great nation and I will bless you, meaning you being a great nation. And I will make your name great and you shall be a blessing. I think if you just look at the evidence of that right now, and you look at all of the great benefits of the world, which has come from and through the Jewish people, the world is blessed because the Jewish people have existed and that they continue to exist. You look at advances in medicine, advances in science, art, literature, motion pictures, music. I mean, you keep going through it all. For a people that really occupy a very small percentage of the world population, we have such a great enormity of blessing. Right. So how can you attribute that blessing to anything other than God's continued blessing upon the people of Israel, whether they're part of the nation of Israel or whether they're outside of the Israel?
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Steve, I want you to stick around, stick around for a minute. We have to go to a break right now. But when we get back, I want you to kind of wrap up. And then also Steve's going to tell you a bit about his organization and what they have going on at Groundwork. So we only take a break here for one minute. It's just one minute. Then we'll come back. Steve's going to be joining us, and we've got other guests coming on later on. So just stay tuned with us. We're back in one minute. Go to ACLJ.org. If you don't get us on your local station, be right back.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. This is the second half hour of the broadcast. If you are just tuning in right now, I'm going to encourage you, when we're done here, go back and listen to the last segment that we just did. The last segment of the first half hour we had with Steve Wiggins. Steve's still joining us right now. Steve, to kind of wrap up the conversation, Steve is a great resource, by the way, for biblical truth and for someone who I trust. And you have Groundworks Ministries, which is launching and growing really significant new projects coming up in just a few months. I know we've been talking about it. I wanted to give you a minute to not only wrap up what you were saying, but to also just give you time to plug, because I think it's really important for our audience who may tune in primarily for news, politics, culture, to really understand still the backbone of why we believe what we believe.
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Sure. Well, let me just start out by saying groundworksministries.com. That's our website, groundworksministries.com. Does this groundwork? Yes, it works. Is it one ministry? No, it's ministries. So groundworksministries.com. What we do is we lead people day by day, chapter by chapter through the Bible. And like you said, we have a lot of things that are growing that we're developing even now. The Bible says that we should be prepared always to give reason for the hope that is within us. Not just human reasoning, no. Biblical reason for the hope that is within us. Because what's interesting is that oftentimes opposition that you find toward the Word of God doesn't come from the world. It just comes from worldliness within Christianity. So it's important for each of us to walk closely with the Lord and to be taught by His Holy Spirit as we're reading the Word so that we can give reason, not just so we can debate, just so we can argue with people, The biblical truth ends debates, and that's exactly what we're headed for. You know, in Romans chapter 11, speaking of this anti-Semitism which is growing within the church, the apostle Paul even said, he says, I say then, has God cast away his people? Certainly not, for I'm also an Israelite of the seed of Abraham of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away his people whom he foreknew. And I think what a lot of people don't understand is, number one, how many Americans are living in the nation of Israel today. It's incredible. Hundreds of thousands. How many American citizens live there? It's amazing how many Christians live there. How many Jewish believers, Jewish people, Israelis, Israeli citizens who believe that Jesus is the Messiah. And they also live there. In the end times, when you look at the book of the Revelation, you know, the world's not being drawn to Cleveland. You understand that, right? It's all going down. It's all headed toward Jerusalem. He's driving the whole world to one place. And there is a reason why this nation has been established. And the last thing that I'll say is this, when considering people who say the nation of Israel shouldn't exist because they're not Christians, and as if you have to be a Christian to earn being in that land. In the days of Jeremiah, in Jeremiah 29, the Lord said that... There's going to be 70 years of exile because of sin within the people, the land. And there was 70 years of exile. And then he says, after 70 years, I'll cause it so that you can return. And sure enough, through a miracle of God, a pagan king says, hey, you Jews, if you want to go back to the land of Israel, rebuild your temple even. You can go. It's a miracle of God that it was happened. You understand there's no spiritual revival that happened prior to that. It's when God says it's time to turn the lights back on in Israel. That's when the lights come back on. There wasn't a revival among the Jewish people until over 100 years after the Babylonian exile started returning. And that happened when Ezra showed up with the word of God. And when they read the word of God to all of the people, then the people understood the truth of the word. Then you saw repentance. Then they're seeking the face of the Lord. Then they're humbling themselves. Israel's only been a nation again, right? After a long, almost 2000 year exile. It's only been a nation again. since 1948. So according to the Bible, I mean, if you just look at biblical history, there could be another 20 to 50 years before revival happens. So don't think that it can't happen or that it won't happen, but definitely don't get into the business of cursing and not blessing the people of Israel.
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Absolutely, Steve. Thank you so much. We are just out of time, but go to Groundworks Ministries. We're going to link it all. Steve does incredible work. I hope you enjoyed it. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow, packed back half of the show. Rick Grinnell's joining us right now. Rick, obviously we're in the middle, or middle of day two, I guess, of government shutdown. And look, we've been talking a lot. The first half hour, really, up until right now, has been all about Israel, the holy days, of course, this attack that happened in Manchester. But I did want to pivot, because last night, I got a text even from you, and that we are in the middle of this government shutdown. I... We actually spent a good portion of the last segment talking about the arts and how the arts have majorly made a comeback at the Kennedy Center. There's been a bit of a change of tone, even coming from the mainstream media. You have seen, you were on CBS to announce, I loved that, on CBS this morning, announcing honors, and that cast of people on the couch was like, man, I've been wanting George Strain in this forever. They were so glowingly excited. Obviously, it's on their network. They're not going to like, But, you know, when there's the words President Trump involved, you never know what they're going to say. And they seemed largely very excited about this. And now you even have other content returning. You people who have been going after you, been going after the Kennedy Center say, well, you know what? We got to give it to Ambassador Grinnell when he is able to pull off some pretty big wins.
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Yeah, we were pretty excited over the last, I'd say, two or three weeks. We've had some really big wins. We're bringing back the Vienna Philharmonic, which hasn't been in Washington, D.C. at the Kennedy Center in 14 years. And we brought them back. We're bringing Sougar Ballet. You know, they haven't been here in decades. We're bringing in the Glenn Miller Orchestra. And then this past weekend, we had the gala, the Kennedy Center Gala, Black Tie, big fundraiser for the National Symphony, and we almost tripled the amount that we've raised literally breaking every fundraising record we've had for the gala and had 50 of the crowd brand new people so i think that people are beginning to say you know when you do big common sense programming as president trump wanted us to do you're going to get big support and we're finding that whether it's les mis or the sound of music which is on till sunday we're just bringing back the big common sense uh programming And I think it's really popular. This is what you're looking at right there is the Library of Congress. The young von Trapp singers who sing every night at the Kennedy Center utilized the foyer there and the acoustics. And so the kids got together and sang a little rendition. And it's glorious. I mean, it's really beautiful, especially in that room with all those acoustics.
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Absolutely. And I'm so thrilled that you're doing this. I'm also thrilled that the arts are thriving. Like you said, when you do programming that can reach the masses, all of a sudden they show up, as you said. I think that's something that shouldn't be poo-pooed or laughed at or anything. And look at the content. It's not like you're bringing in things that anyone should be. This is what's coming to a lot of major cities, a lot of major theaters. And of course, the Kennedy Center should be providing that great content. Now, this does come at an interesting time. You're in the process of redoing the Kennedy Center, spending time raising money for it as well. But we are in the middle now of day two of this government shutdown. You've lived through these shutdowns before. I think we spent about an hour yesterday, Jordan and I, just breaking down, people, what this looks like. Because I think a lot of people who have never been... They've been through a government shutdown. They maybe just never knew they went through a government shutdown because they were not politically attuned to what was happening. And a lot of us over the last eight years, you could say 10 years, got a little bit more attention being paid to what was going on in the news. I even received texts from people who, you know what, maybe last time they were in their early 20s and now they're in their mid 30s and they're going, what does this mean? What does this mean? As someone who's lived through it, I want to give you that opportunity as well.
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Well, newsflash, it's like a government shutdown every weekend, right? The government is shut down all weekend. Sometimes if you're looking at the Senate, it's usually a three or four day weekend every weekend. And so I don't think that this is going to be missed very much if it doesn't go on for that long. But, you know, one of the things I saw Bernie Moreno, my friend from Ohio, talk about how members of Congress, both the House and the Senate, should not get paid And what we're talking about is back pay once all of this is settled. You know, this is the kind of trickery that the government does, is that government bureaucrats are furloughed. They don't have to show up to work because it's a shutdown, but they all get their money back when this is done. So we at the Kennedy Center, we have a small portion of our staff, which is federal employees. bureaucrats, and that's federal employees who work on the Kennedy Center as a monument, because it's a monument to John F. Kennedy. So a small portion of our individuals are federal employees. I've told them, we're just going to keep paying you. We'll figure out the pay, but you got to show up to work because I know what's going to happen. And a week or two, they're going to figure it out. And then they want me to pay everybody back pay after they didn't show up. So I just said, show up. We're going to keep paying you. We're going to figure it out. But no one at the Kennedy Center is going to be furloughed.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's good to hear that the furloughs. But we do know this affects people. And like we said, and you brought up is for the mass majority of people. People, they're not feeling the effects of this yet. They aren't going to feel the effects of it. Likely, it'll get done before they do. Now, obviously, there is a group of people who their jobs have been furloughed, and President Trump this morning even kind of put out a statement going, well, this does give me the opportunity, and I think, look, this has been a bit of what people voted for with President Trump, is to look at these departments and go, okay, what is actually necessary? What are we doing here? Have we overbloated a lot of these departments? Now, I'm not for anyone losing their job. I think we need to be very clear about that, especially in these really tough times for a lot of people. But if the door opens, you're able to go, OK, now let's see who's really doing what needs to be done. It gives that opportunity to President Trump and his team to start making those cuts.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, I view it slightly a little bit differently in that the American taxpayers have a group of people, public servants, who work for them. And if we need to constantly right-size the government and make sure we don't need that many public servants, then they go find work somewhere else. I I don't feel bad about that at all because the reality is we've got a lot of people working really hard and the federal government and the state government and the local government is taking a lot of money. If it's not producing, then I would say let's right-size the government, not feel bad about it, We haven't done this in decades. We keep adding people. I can tell you just from my little perch at the Kennedy Center, we had massive numbers of people in different departments that hadn't been looked at. We have rooms that haven't been touched since 1973 inside the Kennedy Center. No revamping. And it's just outrageous that leaders allow themselves to just sit in seats and let things completely unfold without taking hold and asking the tough questions so i hope our politicians in washington are constantly saying and cabinet officials are saying what are we doing is this the appropriate number of people and when you let people go thank you for your service um this is all of our tax dollars let's not feel bad about it yeah
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's a good point. And I think that maybe I don't feel bad. We had a couple of callers call in that were like, you know, I'm President Trump's one of the biggest supporters. However, I'm furloughed right now and I'm nervous. And I get that. I get that understanding of being like, I'm nervous for my job. But you are right. It's a country where there are a lot of opportunities where people who are qualified for these jobs can go find other places of employment. You're right. Sadly, it had to come to this point. It wasn't that you had someone minding the shop, if you will, making sure that we were staying on track, that we weren't over-bloating these things. Like I said, you had rooms in the Kennedy Center that haven't been touched since the 70s. I think people would be appalled by that when it comes to what their funding is going to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, I don't think our forefathers ever envisioned that Washington, D.C. would be a city that is untouched by the economy or layoffs. It's supposed to be the capital city. It was supposed to be a city that you were never really from. You went there for a short period of time and then you went home. That was the whole vision. And now we have Washington, D.C. as a big, bustling city that never gets budget cuts. And so that wasn't the vision. to have a permanent bureaucracy, people who work for the federal government for 25 years. I think we've got to move a lot of these agencies outside of Washington, move them to the rest of the country, have different types of people who have the headquarters. I'm talking about the headquarters not being in Washington, D.C., and moving them outside. I think that would really benefit all of the taxpayers, and we need to make decisions for all of America.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not just so you don't have to spend less time in D.C. I feel like that's the you're like, we got to move these departments out of here. Why? Because Rick is like, oh, we got you muted.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hold on. Go ahead. Manhattan Beach would be a great place to put one of those agencies.
SPEAKER 03 :
Fantastic. And Nashville, too. Yeah, absolutely. We'll take it. We'll take all the people coming in. Rick, thanks for joining us today. I am really excited about what you're doing with the Kennedy Center. Of course, that's something, the arts is near and dear to my art, so it's always nice to have that connection. But I am very excited for new programming and for the... the tone to finally come down a little bit. People were going after you, were going after what was happening there, but I think they're at least even seeing the writing on the wall that you may have had a couple people say, we're not doing this, but for the mass majority of the people, and the mass majority of performers, they want to be involved in what you're doing at the Kennedy Center. We've got like 20 seconds, but go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, I appreciate that. It's a testament to all of the individuals at the Kennedy Center who are trying to get big, beautiful programming, things that are popular, the people that want to come see. Everyone is welcomed. Everyone should be coming.
SPEAKER 03 :
Awesome. Thanks, Rick, for joining us. When we get back, I want to hear from you, whether you want to respond to what Rick had to say about the shutdown or... the arts but of course we're going to continue our conversation about the attack in Manchester the synagogue the high holy days here that we are right now your support of Israel maybe the rights move away from supporting Israel what do you think is cause of that do you believe any of it's true give me a call 1-800-684-3110 now's the time to call in 1-800-684-3110 got a few lines open give us a call right now support the work of the ACLJ by the way you're not going to hear this kind of show anywhere else by going to ACLJ.org and making a donation today. Welcome back. Last segment of the day. We do have about four lines open right now. We had a few calls, but some of them dropped off in the last segment. So right now I'm going to encourage you to give me a call at 1-800-684-3110 before I take calls. We spent three-fourths of the show talking about what was going on in Manchester and really the growing rise of anti-Semitism around the world and what it's leading to. We saw the aftermath after October 7th, which was the immediately condemnation of Hamas and then how quickly, and we predicted it on this show, unfortunately, saying, hey, in a week or two, that's all going to change. You're going to have people like Bono and you two go from, we know who the bad guys are to a year later going, yeah, maybe we don't know. Maybe Israel is also one of the bad guys here. And look, no one wants to see death and destruction. No one wants to see war. No one wants to see bloodshed. I would much rather this war come to an end. The deal's on the table. It's been on the table now for a couple days. Hamas has yet to respond. There were some good movements early on. Now we are in the middle of Jewish high holy days. Silence is deafening right now, even with the push from other Palestinian leadership and a lot of the Arab countries, the Muslim countries that surround the Palestinian areas of Israel. They're pushing for this deal to happen. They want not only a permanent end to the war, they want this plan to move forward. But it's not what's happening right now. Why is that? Let's just see. I want to remain hopeful. I want to remain hopeful that this deal can get done. We can see it end to the war, at least for now. Because as we know, and as Steve said, this is a war that's been going on for thousands of years, and it's not going anywhere. But maybe we can bring it down for a little bit. Maybe it's going to be okay to travel with your friends and family to Israel. No, look, a lot of people are doing that. We have our offices there. We have the ACLJ Jerusalem. So I don't want to pretend like there aren't people going. I haven't gone personally since the attacks. I would love to. I'd love to take my kids. They need to see it. If you're a Christian, by the way, and you've never been. You have to. I would say it's not a mandatory for your salvation, but it will change the way you look at scripture. It will change the way you believe. Because when it's right in front of you, it's pretty hard to deny. It's pretty hard not to be able to picture all of it that went down. Of course, you have the high-tech cities of Tel Aviv, but then you have the old city of Jerusalem, and you have the areas that surround it, and it's all right there. Not in black and white on your pages, in living color. It's amazing. So let's take some calls. We have Warren who's calling in. Warren is a ACLJ champion. That's someone that gives on a recurring basis. They give essentially like a membership fee to be part of the ACLJ. They don't do anything else. They don't give a lot of perks. They do it because they just want to make sure that their support is always here for us. And what we do mainly is to try to keep all of our content outside of a paywall. We want to make sure you can share this with your friends. Warren, go ahead. Thanks for taking my call.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I wanted to comment on this replacement theology we're seeing in the right moving away from Israel. It's of the devil, obviously, because God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He has not changed his mind. I believe the church is his bride, and Israel is still the apple of his eye. He won't turn his back or replace them with anybody.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Warren, I couldn't agree more. And look, I have to say that the conversation coming out of the right. And, you know, I'll let some of these, you know, I would say the comedian bases, the Rogan bases that have come out and started questioning. They didn't grow up in this. They didn't grow up with this sort of support of Israel because it's obviously biblical as well. So though I don't like their position, I can at least understand why they're having this internal crisis. When you do see the imagery out of Gaza, it does break your heart. It should break your heart. But remember where this all started. However. When you see people who have been in the Christian conservative movement and proclaim the name of Jesus so aggressively, maybe to the point of where you start questioning sincerity, and I don't want to question anyone's faith or anyone's belief ever, whether you are a Christian, whether you're Jewish, whether you're Muslim, Buddhist, whatever it may be, whether you're an atheist. I'm not here to question your heart and your beliefs, but it's very hard for me to see people proclaiming the name of Jesus to love one another, to love your brothers and sisters. And then, of course, to spend this moment to not just blame Israel. But to take it out on the Jewish people, to start stoking fires of tropes that have been around for thousands of years, and even in this country for 100 plus years, including what happens in the entertainment industry. There's just so many things that we have fought so hard against, but still come up because of these very, very strong influencers that have millions and millions of people. And you start losing a lot of people on the conservative side when you start moving away. But there's a whole other group ready to take over. And that group, I'll be honest, is a little scary to me. Let's go ahead and take another call. Let's go to Ann, who's calling in Pennsylvania. This will probably be your last call, four calls. Last time you can call in, 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Call real quick with a quick comment. I'll try to get you in. Ann from Pennsylvania, go ahead.
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Thank you so much. You really touched my heart because I am dying to go to Israel, but for all the reasons that you pointed out. And so quickly, I wanted to say, you know, Israel, first of all, has been the one negotiating peace for years. Just ask the Jews in the Iron Dome. And then to jump here, because as Christians, we are descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And this is what you talked about for two segments. Thank you for the two greatest segments that I've listened to on the ACLJ. There's a spiritual aspect. for supporting Israel. Our alignment with Israel and the fact that the Arabs and the Americans and the Christians living side by side in Israel, and the fact that churches and synagogues, here we go again, continually being intact, well, I guess that proves there is something so special and spiritual between the two. OK, of Israel and America, Christians and Jews. And I guess all the Jewish contributions that your guest so eloquently pointed out. And now we have conservatives. And thank you for because I've been feeling this. And now the conservatives who are everything, all the aforementioned. Right. And now are even insisting that a Jew, that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. Yep. This is blowing my mind. Thank you guys. Love you guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
I feel the same way. And I'm not going to lie and say that I haven't spent a lot of time watching some of that content just with my mouth agape going, I can't believe this is what people are listening to and falling for. And look, thankfully that letter, you know, I don't want to trivialize the Charlie Kirk assassination. Um, Or pretend that I knew the guy. We've been in the room a couple times, a few times, emailed back and forth a few times. That was about it. We represented him here at the ACLJ, but I didn't know him. So I don't want to ever claim that. Because I see people who do claim that, and we see what happens. And what happens is you say, he wrote this letter to Benjamin Netanyahu. That letter comes out and it says everything we've been saying here. Which is that Israel, as much as I love and support Israel, they often fail in the PR side of things. And you'd think, by the way, if they were controlling the media, as those people say, that they wouldn't. But they don't do a great job. There is something lost in translation. We've been trying to fight that fight for decades. And Anne, I appreciate your call so much. that gives me hope and i hope it gives some of you hope who are listening today maybe woke up with that terrible news i've been in a funk uh all day kind of like i have as well go spend time with your family tonight go spend time with your friends pray for our friends in israel pray for the jewish community around the world pray for your christian friends pray for everybody by the way then they come to jesus but pray in general because we are in some dark times uh but there is hope and i see revival coming And as Steve Wiggins, who came to the show, I'm glad you liked that segment. I told Steve we're going to give him a whole show coming up soon. I'd love to have him on a lot more because he brings that biblical side to this that we desperately need. That being said, you can't hear a show like this anywhere else on the planet, and I really believe that. So I encourage you. We're not supported by major sponsors. We are supported exclusively by donors like you, people that give. Go to ACLJ.org. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

Join Bill Gunderson and Barry Kite as they navigate the exciting highs of the current stock market and delve into the potential impacts of government shutdowns. In today's podcast, you'll hear expert insights on how the S&P 500, Dow, and NASDAQ are reaching new milestones despite political setbacks. Get ready to explore the world of high-flying stocks and how global events could shape future trends.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome to the Thursday, the October 2nd live edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And as usual, I'm here with Barry Kite. our chartered financial analyst and certified financial planner, and it is new highs across the board right now. Not by a whole lot, but you've got the S&P 500 hitting a new all-time high again today after hitting one yesterday. It's up six points to 6,717. The Dow hit a new high yesterday. It's hitting another one today. It's up 47 points. to 46,488. And the NASDAQ was hitting a new high. I'll have to check. I think it is 22,820. It's up 65 points. The Russell 2000 is up 6 points. The bond market very quiet here today with the 10-year yield at 4.11 right now. Gold just hit a new milestone, 3,900. That's a new all-time high as America's gold stash is worth over a trillion, not counting what's still in the ground that we need to find. Crude oil continues to move lower. It's down to $61.56. That's good news for the consumer at the gas pump. And Bitcoin has had a pretty ferocious rally since really selling off last week. Bitcoin is up $2,500 today to $119,000. So welcome to the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And Barry, maybe we should call the show Best Indexes Now as all three... Two out of three hit new all-time highs yesterday, and it looks like the third one is joining in today. You've got the Dow. You have to move your line. I have to move the line. You have to move your line on the chart, right? You know, I was working under the assumption that a week ago Monday was the high. Well, that's been erased now, and we have another new one. 46,441 it hit yesterday, which was an all-time high for the Dow. The NASDAQ hit 6,711 yesterday, which was a new all-time high. The NASDAQ closed a little bit below. Its all-time high is 22,789. So last time I looked, we've got a new all-time high in the NASDAQ. So we raised the bar, okay? The ceiling is now at wherever the market's closed today or yesterday, depending on the index. We continue to have new highs in gold. We're cracking 3,900 for the first time yesterday. And this is all taking place while the government is shut down. It's like the market's saying, who cares about a government shutdown today? And, of course, Scott Besson is warning about a hit to GDP if we don't get this thing opened up very quickly or soon. And you also have the threat of layoff letters coming along. And, you know, I mean, they better be careful or the Trump administration could use this opportunity to continue with the doge work of cutting government spending that was started earlier this year and then kind of came to a halt. It's still happening. But, you know, the Trump administration could use this as a reason to not just furlough, but lay off permanently more workers from the federal government. So anyways, we'll see what happens there. We did get a report today on layoffs. We'll get to that in a minute. I don't know if that must be a private, coming from a private company, because the Fed, but we will not get the non-farm payrolls report tomorrow. And, you know, look, a lot of the stocks are hitting new all-time highs. The breakout list is a pretty long list. if you they used to print in the paper remember that a newspaper we used to get those delivered in our driveway every morning and stumble out there and grab it and read through the fine print and your hands would be all black with ink when you were done with it and then
SPEAKER 04 :
I just remember all the quotes there. And then, of course, you had an eighth back then, I believe. And so it was always just funny that that's one of the main ways you can get the information.
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That was a small type for sure, but they would have a lot of times a new high list. The Investors Business Daily focused on new highs a lot. They always published the new high list. Be interesting to know how many stocks are hitting new highs. I know a few that I can rattle off the top of my head, which Taiwan Semiconductor is hitting a new all-time high. You've got Nvidia hitting a new all-time high. Many stocks right now hitting new all-time highs. Besson says U.S. GDP could take a hit from government shutdown. He wants to get that thing resolved quickly. And on the world front, the U.S., here's our World War III update, which is becoming a daily feature, I hate to say it, on the Best Docs Now show. The U.S. is to provide Ukraine intelligence on Russian energy infrastructure targets. OK, we know where they're at. And of course, Putin knows where we're at. And I got to believe that he's getting pretty upset after that meeting in Anchorage, Alaska, apparently did not produce much. He's pretty much a pretty stubborn guy with his with his with being stiff necked. Neck. Stiff neck. That's a Bible term, Barry, used a lot in the Old Testament. And it seems to me that that fits Putin right now. His resolve is to do whatever he wants. I don't know what the end game is. All of Ukraine... All of Europe, get the gang all back together, the Soviet Union, the USSR. I don't know what his ultimate game is, but he continues to not back down. And as the Tom Petty song used to say, you can back me up to the gates of hell and I won't back down. And that seems to be the case right now with Vladimir. U.S. announced job cuts declined. So they declined. That was a good, and I think that's one of the reasons the market's up, although the futures were up last night before this report came out. U.S.-based employers announced 54,000 job cuts in September last which is down 37% from August and 26% lower from the 72,000 announced in the same month last year. So that's the first good labor report that we've had in quite some time. And that is a private report. It comes out as the old Challenger. Gray and Christmas. Was there actually a guy named Christmas? I hope his wife wasn't Mary.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think I do remember one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Was his wife named Mary? Merry Christmas. So far in 2025, companies have announced 946,426 job cuts. How many of those have come from AI? I'm just throwing that out. The highest year-to-date total since 2020. And how many of those were government jobs? The pandemic led to 2.1 million job cuts. As entire industry sectors such as leisure and hospitality, yeah, restaurant workers, hotel workers, airline workers, ground nearly to a halt. The 2025 year-to-date total is the fifth highest in 36 years, Challenger has reported. And once again, I would ask how much of that is due to A.I.? ? They also say it's very likely that job cut plans are going to surpass a million for the first time since 2020, that's the COVID year, and for the ninth time in our series. So anyways, that's pretty good. And then, of course, you've got, let's not forget the Amazon effect, how many stores have closed and other areas of the economy.
SPEAKER 04 :
And immigration, too, you've got reverse immigration now, which kind of skews the numbers a bit in terms of job openings or job gains and losses, right, because now you've changed the base off of which you're using those statistics. Well, they've sent a few people home. Because you had an influx of folks, which was kind of an additional boost to GDP, right, a bad way to get there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Well, while the U.S. is making new highs, Europe indexes touch multi-month highs. The stocks index touches a fresh record. Make the globe wealthy again, it seems like, is what is happening with these markets. And Asian markets also higher today on tech gains. And South Korea hits a record high on a chip rally. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. I talked a while ago about this event coming up in Florida, Barry. And I've got more particulars on it. This is my nephew, Rory McDonald, who grew up in Palmetto. I have one sister. They had one son, and this kid went to Stanford, got his Ph.D., was recruited by Clay Christensen at Harvard, who was the dean of disruptive companies, disruptive strategies. Uh, etc. Uh, and, uh, Clay Christensen passed away a few years back and Rory McDonald carries on the torch. He's now a professor. I want to say the university of Virginia. I'm pretty sure that's where he's at. But anyways, he, he gets big bucks. He goes around the country all around the world. He goes to Dubai all the time and other places. Uh, So anyways, he is coming home to the Longboat Key at the St. Regis Resort on October the 17th, Friday. and Saturday, and there's going to be a two-day thing. And that's that resort that is pretty much new at this point in time, the St. Regis Longboat Key. But this is a $500 event, okay, but here's what you get. At 9 a.m., a little introduction and welcome, and then you get a one-and-a-half-hour interactive session with Rory McDonald discussing disruptive strategy, interactive lecture with Rory. The program opens up to an interactive session focused on the basic principle of disruptive innovation, a framework of strategy that explains why smaller upstarts are sometimes able to successfully challenge leading incumbents. Through an interactive lecture format, we will examine why large, successful companies struggle to adapt in the face of market and technological change. Well, that plays right into my theory, Barry, of becoming soggy stocks and what leaders can do about it. Although there is no formal preparation for this session, please think about what technologies are emerging in your sector today and what, if anything, your organization is doing to harness them. Well, I would also add, you know, this is for business owners, obviously, but I would also add it totally applies to your stock investing. When he's done, we'll have a little break, and then Bill Gunderson will go from 1045 a.m. to noon talking about disruptive stocks in the market today. And then from noon to 1.15 p.m., we'll have a lunch at the St. Regis. I'm hoping it's good, you know, Barry. It's got to be better than Chicken Kiev or whatever. I guess it's pretty tasty, yeah. Yeah, it could be some kind of blackened mahi sandwich. I don't know, but it's a pretty ritzy joint. And then from 1.15 to 2.30 p.m., the closing speaker is Newell White, who grew up with Rory. I've met Newell many times. He owns a big engineering company. They're busy redesigning the whole interchange, freeway interchange in Columbia, South Carolina, which is a mess. That thing is like a Rubik's Cube, and they are going to redesign that thing. He's going to talk about private equity impacts on small business. Over the last 25 years, private equity has evolved into a massive force, and I can attest to that because it's very, very active in my industry. I've been approached by many private equity companies over the last several years. It's become a massive force across many industries. Its impacts are undeniable, and as more capital flows into private equity, investments are being made in professional service companies and small businesses. These impacts have dramatically affected the health care industry Law practices, my industry, my son-in-law's practice that he works for was impacted by private equity. Newell is an expert on this and how to tap into private equity or make your company attractive to private equity. And then on Saturday, that's private sessions with Rory. That's a whole other ballgame there. And I think he's already filled up for that. But this Friday thing, 9 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. at Longboat Key, the St. Regis, Rory McDonald, Ph.D., carrying the torch for the disruptive innovation strategy after the passing of Clay Christensen a few years back. Then you've got me talking about disruptive companies in the market today. And then you've got Newell White, who's an expert on private equity. So if you have interest in that, that's Friday, October the 17th from 9 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. at the St. Regis Longboat Key Resort. You can call Edie. I will clue in Edie about what this is, but just give your name. Bill just says, I need to leave my name with you. I'm interested in the South Florida Business Summit. Call her at 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST, or go to our website, gundersoncapital.com. and send a message to us that you're interested in the 2025 South Florida Business Summit, which I'm looking forward to it. It's pretty neat.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know you've been wanting to kind of do something jointly with us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, and you know, about a year ago, Rory spent a day in my office. I put my charts on the big screen, And I showed him how my app works. And he said, Bill, you're a disruptor yourself. I hope you realize that. I said, yes, I've always been kind of a disruptor. Just ask my mother. I used to disrupt the family all the time, you know. But anyways, I feel like, you know, I'm not an asset alligator or an asset allocator, as they say in today's world. And I'm not an alternatives guy with these things that are being called not connected to the markets at all. I say phooey on that. If the economy and the markets go, all the alternative investments are going to go right along with it. So anyways, 855-611-BEST if you're interested in this one-day-only conference for an expert in the disruptive technology innovation field. Okay, trade surpluses around the world are plunging, Barry. What does that mean when Australia's trade surplus plunges to a seven-year low?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, that means somebody is getting more trade on the other side of the equation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, that means that, you know, the tariffs, which I said were going to work, now you can argue with that all you want. But as we sit here today, all three indexes are hitting new all-time highs. Gold is hitting a new all-time high. The job cuts came in very favorable today. And Australia's trade surplus, I know who else's trade surplus is plunging, and that's China. And our trade surplus is narrowing. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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Pull out the instigator Because there's something in the air
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And welcome back to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, Barry, what do you think the most valuable startup in the world today is? It's got to be OpenAI, right? I mean... OpenAI dethrones SpaceX as the world's most valuable startup. OpenAI's valuation has reached a record $500 billion after the Microsoft-backed firm wrapped a secondary stock sale surpassing Elon Musk's SpaceX deal. Watch, he'll do a secondary stock sale trying to outdo it to become the world's most valuable startup. The chat GPT's makers current and former employees sold about $6.8 billion worth of shares to investors including SoftBank. So if you want exposure to OpenAA, you have it by owning NVIDIA. You have it by owning Microsoft. You also would have it by owning SoftBank. T. Rowe Price was a buyer, Dragoneer Investment, and Abu Dhabi's MGX. So they're buying it at a valuation of $500 billion. So anyways, they now are the world. So that ties right into the South Florida Business Conference where we're going to be talking about startups and kind of, you know, that whole disrupting. The question is, was OpenAI a disruptor? Well, yeah. I mean, look at when ChatGPT, that was the first shot fired in the AI war without question. And look at what has happened since that chat. It was just kind of buzz before that. OpenAI, Sam Altman. It was kind of behind the curtain going on. But then all of a sudden, ChatGPT was available to us. And boom. We had the whole AI sector with Nebius, with NVIDIA, with Arista Networks, with all of the data centers, with nuclear energy. It just exploded. Quantum computing.
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Quantum computing. We'll find out what that is at some point.
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Yes. I mean, they're even using it in the menu boards at Burger King. That's how far these tentacles have spread. Data Center REIT Fermi went public yesterday. It should be noted. Now, talk about not having an idea. raising money, doing a startup, and then getting it to go public. Well, former U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry sold 32.5 million shares through the IPO at $21 apiece. His gross proceeds, $683 million. From an idea to a... You said he would make money for sure. Yeah, I don't know about the shareholders. I got my doubts about them. Right so far. Yes, but it can be done, okay? If you've got a startup and you want to take it to the next step, and you've got something that you think is innovative and disruptive, there's plenty of money sloshing around right now. You know, you can watch it publicly on TV, and I've watched that from time to time, you know, with the guys on CNBC and these guys pitching their ideas, and I can usually tell right away whether it's a good idea or not a good idea. I've read that the hit rate coming from that have been pretty low. I think Cuban said that he's lost on 98% of the companies he invested in. You have to have a plan past the startup and raising the money. That was the problem with the dot-com bubble in 2000. They did not have a plan for the most part after the IPO. Let's get it to an IPO, boom, cash out, and we've accomplished our mission. No, no, no, no, no, no. You've got to take it to the next level after that. Tesla Q3 deliveries beat estimates and set a quarterly record. Well, just remember that the deadline was October 1st for the EV thing, $7,500. And I also saw that Toyota Motors, Stellantis, all of them, Had a giant month in September of people getting that $7,500 credit. So anyways, Tesla delivers. Tesla's down. It hit a new high. It broke out to a new all-time high yesterday. And then it's pulling back some here today. But others, GM had a big quarter. Stellantis had a huge quarter. And so did Tesla. AVAV broke out to new all-time highs yesterday. That's one of the leading drone makers in the world. We own it in our emerging growth portfolio. That's where it belongs. And they got a $264 million order from the Air Force Research Laboratory. AVAB hit new all-time highs yesterday. Let's see if it's following through here at all today. I have not looked at it yet today, but, man, yesterday it was one of the ones breaking out. Wow, look at that. Oh, man, that brings a smile to my face. It's up another 4.5% today. You know, I got to tell you, this morning, we watched the Padre game last night, and I had some shrimp that we had got from the dock yesterday. I threw my net and made some shrimp tacos. during the game. We're going to have the same exact dinner tonight, Barry, because we won. I told my wife we're having the same exact... So I went out there on the dock just after sunrise this morning, and I have a little trap that catches shrimp. And guess who had it in his mouth, the entire trap, a giant six-foot alligator. He looked up at me and said, ha, ha, ha. I beat it to the shrimp. Now, I haven't seen an alligator. We live on a brackish river. It's pretty salty. but from time to time those alligators make it out into that brackish water and there he was sitting there just few feet from me looking up at me So we will not be having shrimp talk. I still have the rest of the day. I'm sure we'll get some shrimp. There's plenty of shrimp around this neck of the woods. We're never out of shrimp around here. Okay, now we go back to the market. AVAB hitting a new all-time high here today. Drones have been a big disruptor, haven't they? in the world of armaments. I'll tell you the stocks that have been under pressure. We unloaded both of them, Flutter Entertainment and we unloaded SRAD, Sport Radar, a couple weeks ago. They've been tanking that whole sector. DraftKings has been down for the last seven sessions. It has something to do with a proposed tax on gambling losses. How do you charge a tax on gambling losses? Or it could be not being able to count your losses against your gains. Either way, I mean, the government wins, but man, those stocks have been under pressure. We have no exposure. I did see that Kathy Woods backed up the truck, or the cyber truck in her case, and loaded up more DraftKings shares into the bed of her truck for those ARK fund investors. We also have BYD seeing the first quarterly drop in sales since 2020. Immense price wars. It's not a good sector. The EV sector is not a good sector. And BP continues to lay off. And guess where the layoffs are coming? You know, they were making a move. It was a survival move to become more renewable energy focused, right? Wind, solar. carbon capture and storage. And their CEO, Albert Manafort, has told employees that we need to be executing our strategy faster and focusing back to oil and gas. So there's another major shift that has taken place in the world. Now, Europe pretty much continues down the path. I saw Denmark and Holland. They're upping the ante on wind and solar. And, of course, the U.S. is pretty much shifting away from that big time. And this whole data center thing, it seems like everybody... Everybody. Including Rick Perry. Yes, and Williams Company. Williams Company is a pipeline company. They plan to spend $3.1 billion on two projects to supply power to data centers in an effort to deliver speed-to-market solutions in a grid-constrained marketplace. And then we've got a couple of other kind of odd companies joining in on the AI craze. And we've got a new candidate for Alzheimer's coming from one of the large drug stocks out there. We'll be right back.
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You've got to go where you want to go and do what you want to do with it.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, we're giving up some of those early gains here. But the S&P did hit a new all-time high yesterday, which exceeded the one that it hit a week ago Monday. It is now down eight points. We're at 6,703 on the S&P 500. 6,711 is now the new high water mark. The Dow is down 87. It hit a new high yesterday, however, exceeding that old high that it set a week ago Monday. And the NASDAQ is holding on to a new high that it hit this morning. It's at 22,796. Maybe we're just a hair under that high. It's where it closes. That's what matters. But you did see intraday all-time highs yesterday. across the board on all three major indexes i just want to check gold here real fast what a story gold has been here in 2025 it's now down backing down off of that 3900 level which it hit this morning which was an all-time high it's now at 3866 Okay, if you're just joining us, I just want to mention once again, you know, my little nephew, he's not little. He's bigger than me. I'm sure he could take me in a wrestling match, you know, if I was having a bad day. But anyway, he gets $100,000 or more. I mean, he speaks all over the world. He flies. He's a PhD from Stanford. We ought to take him to the Bay Area with us next time. Barry, and have him give a little pitch. Yeah, he'd have a blast. That's startup capital of the world. How much did I get paid for my workshop that I taught there? Two cookies. That's what I got. Two cookies.
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It might have cost you money, Bill.
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That's right. I had to pay. Yeah, I think I lost money. That's okay. You know what? I love getting up in front of folks and talking. But anyways, it's happening at Longboat Key. So Longboat Key, is that part of Sarasota, Barry? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got its own zip code.
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Yeah, that's right off. I mean, it's when you go kind of, I think, through our mod circle, right?
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Yeah, through the circle and then go north.
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Right, I think, yeah.
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so that's anyways october the 17th which is a friday from 9 00 a.m to 2 30 p.m a guy that gets flies all over the world and gets six figures for speaking you can hear him you can hear me we'll serve cookies during my part maybe i'll get one or two and uh also newell who grew up with rory and uh is an expert on private equity So, again, call 80 at 855-611-BEST. And I'll announce it a few more times between now and then. What I'm looking forward to more than anything, Barry, is Wednesday night, my father, my late father used to say, Bill, the best steak I've ever had is at Burns Steakhouse in Tampa. I'm sure you've been there, Barry.
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Oh, yeah. Sister used to live in Tampa, so that's one of the top ones around.
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Now you can hardly get in the place, but when Rory walks in, it's like, here's your table, Mr. McDonald and his buddies. They are pretty well connected down there, along with the two brothers, Newell and his brother, H.B., who owns a big business down there in the Sarasota-Palmetto area. But I've never been, so Halls is our place here in Charleston. It's good. I mean, it's really good.
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And we've been to a couple of nice ones on our travels lately too, right?
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On our travels. Alexander's was pretty good. But from what I hear, Burns is the best. These guys swear by Burns. So I'm going to go for my first time on the Wednesday before this whole lecture series. You'll enjoy it. Good. You'll enjoy it. Okay, we're going to finish with this. We've got just a few minutes here remaining here. I will be going through a lot of charts here today as usual. And we have made some, we have, we've sold some underperformers. Okay. In the market sitting new highs and your stock is still going sideways. You have to question, you know, what the heck, you know, we got to get some better performance here. I did cut a few loose, and I picked up a major new purchase yesterday. That will be in the newsletter this Saturday at GundersenCapital.com, where you can get four weeks. of the newsletter. And all these companies now getting into this AI space that is reminiscent to me. So, for instance, Caterpillar emerges as an AI power play on demand for turbines. Okay, all right. And Caterpillar, they make their turbines in San Diego. There's a company there called Solar Turbines, which is downtown San Right by the airport. I had a lot of friends that worked there. Caterpillar Bot Solar Turbines. Now that's an AI place. I'll remember that when I drive by there next time. You've got Bristol Myers has a new candidate for Alzheimer's, which is granted fast track status. We're always rooting for something, some kind of breakthrough there. And HPQ. Hewlett Packard unveils products and services for workspaces and AI development. Man, they need something to perk that HPQ, which has been just a tremendous underperformer. You know, it's like down there where Intel was at. Maybe they can revitalize Hewlett Packard. with some kind of AI move in their business. Okay, to set up an appointment with us, if you're in a 50-50, 60-40, 70-30, it's your choice. You go where you want to go, do what you want to do. I'm not a fan of asset allocation based on age. I think there's a lot more. I think you have to be much more tactical than that, much more tactical than that. As far as stock portfolios go, there's good stocks, there's bad stocks, there's ugly stocks. And there's a whole heck of a lot of mediocrity, a lot of mediocrity. We had an account transferred to us. I couldn't believe how mediocre the holdings were, even though they're big names, recognizable names. But I've been busy pruning that thing here the last several days and trying to breathe some fresh life into that thing and get it invigorated again. Give us a call at 855-611-BEST. And to get a four-week trial, GundersenCapital.com. And if you have interest in the October 17th trial, One-day lecture from three experts on disruptive technologies and how to become one or how to invest in them, how to spot them. Call Edie at 855-611-BEST, 855. That's at the St. Regis Hotel on Longboat Key. Have a great day, everybody.
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Join Kim Monson as she delves into today's pressing issues, dissecting politics and world affairs through the ever-relevant lens of freedom versus force. In this episode, Kim explores local and state-level challenges that redefine property rights and the political landscape. Highlights include a deep dive into how the radical activism affecting the Democrat Party and how bipartisan efforts in local legislation are shaping our future.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. Did you miss me? Of course. Well, I missed all of you. It is great to be back. I was in a place I dearly love in western Wyoming. And it is great to be back. Had great guest hosts that stepped in to take care of everything. And, of course, Joe behind the boards. And I did miss all of you, though. It's great to be back, though. Wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. It's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power. From oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer, this is totally under assault. And that's why we need to continue to shed light on all of these power sources and how this is all related to everyday people being able to thrive and to flourish. And so thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of this show. As you know, on the show, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate and it's not altruistic to take other people's stuff. It's called theft. And it could be their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. Force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The World Economic Forum's agenda is played out by the globalist elites, obviously, through the United Nations. We see it with this Colorado governor, the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party here in Colorado, and Democrats. And there's a big fight for the Democrat Party on a national basis, obviously. But this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of your grandpa and your grandma. It's not the Democrat Party of JFK. This is radical activists moving towards a Marxist ideology. And we are seeing this also, though, playing out in local government and at the county level. So these races, these candidates, they are all so, so important. And land use codes and zoning, all these things are taking away people's property rights. And so that's why we are shedding light on what's going on. We've got a big show planned for you guys today. So stay tuned on all of that. It happens because of all of your support. I'm an independent voice on an independent station. What that means is I purchase my airtime and pay my contractors so that we can bring this show to you. And so it happens because, again, all of you and our sponsors, Hooters Restaurants has been a great sponsor of the show for many, many years. How I met them is a classical story regarding PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties wanting to control things. and the free market and capitalism and entrepreneurship. And you can find the story at my website. But Hooters Restaurants has three locations. That's Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora. Great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. And, of course, football season is in full swing, so great place to get together to watch the games with everyone. I wanted to say thank you to Terry for his suggestion for the word of the day and also the quote of the day. And the word is ignominy. And it's I-G-N-O-M-I-N-Y. It's a noun. It could be great personal dishonor or humiliation. A public disgrace or dishonor, reproach, infamy. And he pulled this from a quote from Samuel Adams. Samuel Adams was born in 1722. He died in 1803. He was an American statesman, political philosopher, and founding father of the United States. He was a politician in colonial Massachusetts, a leader of the movement that became the American Revolution, a signatory of the Declaration of Independence and other founding documents, and one of the architects of the principles of American republicanism that shaped the political culture of the United States. He was a second cousin to his fellow founding father, President John Adams, and he founded the Sons of Liberty. He said this, If therefore a people will not be free, if they have not virtue enough to maintain their liberty against a presumptuous invader, they deserve no pity and are to be treated with contempt and ignominy. And that is Samuel Adams. Just think of the words they used. There are those that want to say that we are so much more intelligent these days. I don't think so. We have a lot of different tools where we can get a lot of information. But we need to be disconnecting so that we can read, read books, read things. Reading is so important. And so, again, expanding our language, that's important as well. I think the main... The main thing that I wanted to mention regarding headlines before we really get totally into the show is we're working on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers Ratings Report, as I've mentioned, and it is an incredible body of work. And what I am realizing is that consultants, PBIs on both sides of the aisle are trying to control the narrative. And they're also trying to keep people confused. The laws and the ordinances are so voluminous, zoning regulations. People can't understand it. And I think it's by design. And Madison had said something, James Madison said that if the laws are so voluminous that people can't read them and understand them, it doesn't matter if we are electing, I have this in air quotes, then representatives, because we don't know what's going on. It's by design. And so I was able to, while I was... traveling, I was able to go through and do the second proof on our ratings report for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And I would highly recommend that you join us so that you can support us as we're doing this. We will be putting it on the website. But House Bill 25-1315 is we chose 30 bills to write extensive commentary on in the report that's one that we chose and it's come back to bite the republicans in the rear end here because and and cut was a strong no on it and it was vacancies in the general assembly and the sponsors on it were representative sirota and puglisi and senator weisman and kirkmeyer so bipartisan support uh rose puglisi uh who I like very much, has decided to step down from her seat in the Colorado State Legislature. So the Republicans put together a vacancy committee, found a candidate that they wanted to fill the vacancy, and then the Secretary of State said, hey, You didn't do everything you needed to according to the letter of the law of House Bill 25-13-15. And so that has been up in the air somewhat. And it was a terrible bill. And so if you're going to want all that commentary, support us at coloradotaxpayer.org. On the line with me is a great sponsor of the show, and that is Karen Gorday. She is an entrepreneur. She is the owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting. She's also a candidate for Lakewood City Council. Karen Gorday, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Thank you. Let's talk radiant painting and lighting first. I cannot believe that we are into October. That means Christmas is right around the corner, and you do beautiful work with outdoor lighting. But it's not just on the house and the trees. Tell us what else people can do.
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You know, they can do just about anything with lights. You know, I like, you know, if they're throwing a party, we can come in and decorate their backyard, whether that's their pergola, their fence, string them from their shed to the middle of the yard. We can get super creative. And then they can sit, you know, enjoy the lights. You know, if they want to come down and take them down in a week, we will. But they can also keep them up a couple months, and then we'll come take them back down when they're ready and store them again so they can have another – Let's just say backyard barbecue next year. So there's so many things that can do with the light.
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You know, when I was coming home from the airport last night, I went by areas that I normally just only go by during the day. And I was shocked how different it looks when people have done some like backyard lighting. It's it's it's really happy to me.
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Yes, yes, and that's what I like about the lights. It doesn't have to just be around the holidays, you know, between Thanksgiving and January. It can be year-round, and who doesn't like lights? Because I love them.
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I do, too, and people can see some of your work by going to your website. What is that website, Karen Gorday? That website is www.paintwithradiant.com. Okay, let's go over to the other thing that you are working on, and that is you're a candidate for Lakewood City Council. That election is just a little over a month away. And tell us, first of all, why you're running, and give us updates on what's happening in Lakewood.
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Well, thank you. So I can't believe we're a month away. It's coming very, very quickly. And I'm running because I was just fed up in short with the way city council was voting on numerous issues and decided it was finally time to get off the sidelines and get involved. So I'm knocking doors every day, trying to get out and talk to people. It's hard though, because everybody has busy lives, but at least making the attempt to get out and talk to folks. But then I was at an event last night and someone hadn't even gotten to their neighborhood yet was like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited about your campaign. So I think the word is getting out there. And I'm excited. Again, though, I do need help. I've got 10,000 door hangers to get on doors between now and October 11th. And most of the normal folks that would help in Lakewood are a little tied up working on the citizens referendum, which I'm not going to go into too much because you've got Corey on your show today. later today. And he's going to talk about that.
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Okay. Okay. So 10,000, and you say October 11th, because that is when the ballots are mailed out, correct?
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That's correct. They go out on the 10th. So the 10th is a Friday. And so we want to have those door hangers on the doors no later than the 11th.
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Oh boy, that's right around the corner. Yes, it is. Okay, so how can people reach you regarding, obviously, radiant painting and lighting, but how about helping you with these door hangers? How can people help you with that?
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They can go to my website. It's www.karenforlakewood.com. They can fill out a form just to submit a question and just say, hey, I want to help, and here's my contact information. That would be fantastic. Okay.
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Okay. Well, Karen Gorday, thank you. And this is really in the spirit of the American republicanism, as Samuel Adams talked about it, is everyday people, representative government. And so thank you for stepping up. And again, that website for your campaign? Karen4Lakewood.com. Four is spelled out. Okay. Karen Gorday, great. We will talk to you next week. All right. Sounds great. Thank you, Kim. And we have amazing sponsors. Another one of those is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And Roger can create personalized insurance plans to cover all your needs from protection for your cars to your home, condo, boat, motorcycle, business, and renter's coverage. I just went through my complete analysis with them because everything was up for renewal. And really, they do an amazing job. So contact them at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment today. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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Morning, Kim. I got to say, my coffee tastes, I don't know, something in the air or something. It just tastes better, you know, even now those days when the coffee's a little better, the sunrise is a little bit, I don't know, more beautiful. I don't know, maybe it's the government shutdown creamer I've got in it.
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Well done, Corey.
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We started off with something a little happier since the last time I was on it was for 9-11.
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Oh, my gosh. Corey, great. Hey, first of all, I've got to say thank you to our fellow board members. We've got this amazing team, and that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, you Paula Beard and Ray Beard and I while I was traveling I needed to have additional hours to just proof this ratings report that we're working on so I got four hours that I went through and I thought I thought that first the first Proof that I gave the printer was pretty good, and then I looked at this, and we had Paula Beard and Bill Hamill also did some editing, but we're getting really close, and it's a monumental piece of work that we're doing here, Cori. Thank you.
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Yeah, it's God's work and really love everyone on the team. It's fantastic.
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It is. So let's talk about, you sent something over regarding gentle density, which I thought that was interesting. Tell me a little bit about that.
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Yeah, it's quite a euphemism. So Mayor Strom, she went on a... And she's Lakewood, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And she went on and talked about, you know, kind of the zoning changes here in Lakewood. And so what I want listeners to understand is, you know, this battle of ideas. What happens in Denver yesterday is happening in Lakewood today and is coming to a neighborhood near you unless you stop it. Unless we can stop it here in Lakewood. So we're trying to stop it here so it doesn't get downstream.
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And what is it exactly? I know that it's not just one thing, but generally, if people don't know what's going on, what's happening?
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Well, they're increasing the housing density through allowing for ADUs, duplexes, triplexes, quadplexes. One of the zoning principles is it's a 50% open space principle. I don't want to define that and be wrong on it, but... uh from the wording of it i'd assume if you've got a 10 000 square foot property that you can have no more than a 5 000 square foot um total built on it but don't quote me on that but i think that's kind of the idea of it uh and so their idea is that you know they don't want to look at the infrastructure the open apartments um and housing that already exists they're just you know trying to to build more and i think part of it is lakewood's anticipating a bit of a setback in the economy, most likely they're going to raise the mill levy. And this kind of keeps construction jobs going in the near future. And of course, you've got to pay to get permits from the city. So I think there's a bit of both that going on.
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So when you say raise the mill levy and that creates construction jobs, you mean public projects, yes? Yes.
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Yeah, exactly right.
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Okay. But ultimately, on the short term, maybe that will create funds for building on the short term for public projects. But at some point in time, the amount of money that they can wring out of people is going to be so onerous that people are going to move or... There's a variety of things on that. The other thing regarding this density, though, is they are not increasing the amount of parking. So it's going to be putting people on top of each other, and then people are going to have to be driving around and moving into other neighborhoods to park their vehicles, yes?
SPEAKER 17 :
That's exactly right, Kim. And when asked about it, Mayor Strom just kind of completely avoided the entire parking system. concept and the parking you know getting rid of parking minimum uh concept and uh that's a little bit disturbing i mean imagine if you've got a you know 20 year old daughter getting home at midnight from her waitress shift and she's got to park eight blocks away from uh where where her door is because because now there's all this parking on the street or people are parked in front of your home on the street or or you know what's next you're gonna you're gonna have uh paid parking I mean, you know, it's just there's so many problems that come with this. And the fact that we're rushing into it willy-nilly and that they've got to call it gentle density because there's a lot of opposition to it is, you know, to me it's terrible. And so the reason why they broke it into four separate sections, I think approximately two weeks apart, four separate ordinance changes, is because now you need four separate sections uh referendums from the people and around you know four thousand plus signatures on each one of these changes which is really difficult you can't just carry around four petitions because they're all on a clock and so that's a bit of strategy from the city to make it much harder to stop them from uh getting this zoning through and from us to get a referendum done but anyone can go to the facebook page is liquidus for everyone and uh details on the The referendums requiring signatures is all there. I encourage anyone who would call them, make sure they sign this petition and that we can do everything we can to stop it here so it doesn't spread, like I said, a neighborhood near you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's interesting that you would mention this. I was going through getting ready for the show with headlines, and I found this is from Denverite. It says, no parking in your neighborhood. Resident-only permits could be coming. So that's going to be interesting as well. So let's say you have your lovely home and you want to have a party. You want to have friends over. Well, that's going to make it very difficult if you get to resident-only parking. And so all these things are bad decisions are playing out, which is making it more difficult for people to thrive, flourish, live the lives that they want to live. It's... Boy, Corey, it's really coming down from the World Economic Forum right to the neighborhood in Lakewood. It's coming down to Lakewood. And the other thing is, is that these PBIs, these bureaucrats, they're unelected and they're unaccountable, but they are being paid big bucks to push these agendas. An example, I looked at Open the Books and the... Lakewood City Manager is making just south in salary, just south of $400,000. That's not including benefits, insurance, and all of that. So it's crazy that what's happened now is this agenda of the World Economic Forum of you will own nothing and be happy about it. They have in place now all these bureaucrats that are paid big bucks to push that agenda, Corey.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, well, Manager Hodgson, she's surely the queen bee here. And from her, directly from Lakewood in 2024, as of 2024, she's got a $3,633,880, sorry, $3,633,880. thousand uh plus dollar golden parachute and that was uh basically put in there a while back and that's all paid for by taxpayer dollars and she bought a lovely two million dollar home in evergreen uh so when when she's she doesn't live in lakewood Well, she has a home in Lakewood as well, but I have a feeling once Lakewood hits the fan here, she'll be headed up for the hills and living in her $2 million home, all off taxpayer dollars. And her views for what's happening in the city... They're going consistently backwards. I think she's about at 30% kind of what's going on in the city now. And she's the only person that's required to live in Lakewood and that can be fired by city council. And... So she has a home, but she has a second home. And I'm sure the second home probably... I'm not accusing her of not living here. She's here all the time. Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Thank you for that clarification. I can get myself going a little bit, Corey, so I apologize.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, we all can.
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Come with the hour, come with the man, come with the woman. It's surprising when you can look at a city like Centennial. It's got two-thirds what Lakewood has. They only have 80 to 90 city employees, whereas Lakewood's got up to around 1,700 now. And Of course, the outsourced police to Arapahoe County, you know, there are a few different factors there, but that's a huge discrepancy. And the bureaucracy, God only knows how many of these people actually live in Lakewood that work for the city. And, you know, people got to get their heads up. you got to get into the sunshine here and see what, see what's going on. There are a lot of people fighting and there are a lot of people that have moved and it's changed the demographics of Colorado greatly, whether it's the legal immigration into, into the state or, um, good people leaving the state. So, uh, I'm doing all this just like you are. Cause we love Colorado and, And we're fighting for everyone. So please, please check us out on Colorado Unit of Taxpayers. And we're going to be having a blue checkmark here soon, Kim. We'll be posting a lot more stuff going into election and next year's legislative season. So thanks for all you do.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. On the line with me is Drew Dix. He is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. He's also a co-founder of the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado. And Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there's four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up in Pueblo. Drew Dix, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Jim, it's always good to be here. Good morning to everybody.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it's been a while since we've talked, so it's great to have you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thanks for, yeah, I missed our little meetings in the morning here, but no, we should get back on it. I always look for the opportunity to talk about the center. I know we're doing great work down there in Pueblo and other parts of the country. that teachers are tuning into what we do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, so let's talk just a little bit about that. Well, the Center for American Values, located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk, is doing great work. It's nonpartisan. It's nonpolitical, focused on these foundational principles or values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So you and your team have put together some K-12 programs educational programs, and you recently had a training for secondary educators, correct?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, we did. We had just right at 50 teachers that came to a class that was put on by the Medal of Honor Society and we hosted it. And, you know, they were really interested in our approach to get back to the basics of educating our kids and let the parents do the work that they're supposed to do about bringing them up the way they want to be brought up. We're going to reach out to some of those teachers and get them involved because they were motivated and practically all of them came up to me afterwards and spoke about how much they appreciate what we're doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and the education of our children. I think during the COVID lockdowns, parents saw what was happening in many of these different schools, and there's been great concern on that. And so parents and educators, I think, are hungry to get to these basic values and values. and set our kids up for success. And character development is one of the foundational components of the Center for American Values.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right. And we take great pride in being able to convince or tell the students that they have an opportunity to think, but we don't tell them how or what to think, just that they can do it, that it's okay to think about things that come across their minds and they should go to their parents in most cases to get an answer. You know, the thing that those of us, I mean, get older, of course, I'm up there, but is that The difference between the ages of those that we're approaching and some of the parents is very narrow. A lot of times when we talk to groups of kids and they're 15, 16, 17, we tell them they're going to be parents very soon. And we've lost a generation of parents parenting those to carry that on, that responsibility of raising their kids. And they're letting the government do it, and that's a danger.
SPEAKER 05 :
Somebody sent me a quote. It says, when you have Caesar educate your children, don't be surprised when they become Romans. And I thought, oh, that's kind of an interesting quote. I hadn't thought about that. Education really should be a partnership, and that's the way it was really styled, our public education, was a partnership between the parents, the community, and then the school board would oversee the staff and educate. And it's gotten a bit out of whack, and so I think people are realizing this, and so the center is really – It's not that you just started to step into this. You've been working on this for quite some time, Drew.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Kim, 15 years coming up November 11th, 2010 is when we opened the doors and it's been a a steady build ever since. And, um, I got across to those teachers. I said, we had one hurdle when we started. And I, I remember because it was no, uh, November 11th, where there was a dedication at the bridge and Pueblo. And I spoke at, at, uh, Veterans Day event, and I invited everybody, it must have been 10,000 people there, I invited them all to come to the center, so we walked from the bridge over to the center along the river walk, and a woman came up to me, wasn't confrontational, but she said, well, I guess we have another right-wing conservative organization building, and I said, you know, I never thought of it, only conservatives have honor, integrity, and patriotism. When I got that across those teachers, they realized that, yeah, everybody should have honor, integrity, and patriotism, no matter what your political beliefs are. And if we all believed in that and embraced those values, I think we'd get along a lot better as a nation.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, Drew, that brings up a really interesting point, and that is unity. We're the United States of America, and Lincoln said that a house divided cannot stand. It's biblical. A house divided cannot stand. And I was having a conversation with someone, and they said that there's so much division in our country, we need to unify. And I said, yes, but it's very difficult to unify with someone that wants to destroy our country. And we have those that want to destroy our country. And so how would you address that, Drew?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, it's going to be a, I don't know how we got there, but we got there pretty fast in the scale of things. That, you know, there's basically two parties. And if you're not 100% in line with With one party or the other, you're an enemy. And I don't understand that. There are some pieces of the agenda of both political parties that maybe I don't agree with. And we should all have that prerogative of disagreeing. I can't figure it out, but I think some of it is the communications that we have and the ability to reach everybody. And they can make a case for themselves, but recently after the Charlie Kirk assassination, It became obvious that a lot of people don't care what they say as long as it's an opportunity to express their point of view. And young minds are impressionable in that they could believe some of that stuff. I can't even imagine the insults and attacking Charlie Kirk. He's passed. He's assassinated. He's dead. And I remember the days in Pueblo when a funeral procession went by. Everyone stopped and gave respect and didn't even know who it was, let alone trash the individual. So we've got to get back on track. we're chipping away at it the center is uh is involved uh if if you align with what we're saying here uh give us a call and see if you can't help out if you don't feel like you can do it on your own let's let us help you out and express your values so well and i would really recommend that yeah i would really recommend that people
SPEAKER 05 :
go to the center in Pueblo. And the walls have the, and the portraits are amazing of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients. And they come from all, you know, all, they come from America, the melting pot of America. And these are men that when the situation presented itself, they stepped forward and took action to protect those around them. And I take great inspiration from that, realizing that it may not be that we're in a physical battle, but we are in a mental battle now, or an ideological battle, where we need to, first of all, be trained up. That was the other thing, that these men were able to do this because they had good training, which I guess that's what the center is really doing, is get trained in... these ideas of honor, integrity, and patriotism so that you can step forward into the battle of ideas that is raging right now, Drew.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I know. And we make a big point that we honor those on the wall there that recipients of the Medal of Honor, not so much that the young students have to have a Medal of Honor or even serve in the military to do good things for this country. We use the examples of hardships on the battlefield where if the individual didn't make the right choice, people would suffer more.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and so that's why this is so important that the center is doing this work. And I'd really recommend that people support the center by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And Drew, you started a new podcast. And so we're going to talk about that when we come back from break. It's Words from the Silo. And you have so much experience, life experience on so many different issues. I really recommend that people add that into their repertoire as they're kicking around these different issues and trying to get their brain around those ideas. And so we'll talk about that when we come back. We're talking with Drew Dix, co-founder with Brad Padula of the Center for American Values. and also a Medal of Honor recipient for actions that he took during the Vietnam War. And these discussions happen because of all of our sponsors. And one of those is Lauren Levy. Give him a ring for everything mortgages.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmonson.com. And I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation as well. It is a nonprofit that I dearly love. Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation and her team, just are doing amazing work honoring our veterans and our military. Thank you so much for having me. The other nonprofit that I highlight on a regular basis and dearly love is the Center for American Values, located in Pueblo, co-founded by Drew Dix, who is a Medal of Honor recipient, and we have him on the line. Drew, it's always just fascinating to – you have so many life experiences that you bring – Well, you're sharing that, which is so great, through your new podcast series. You completed season one, and it's Drew Dick's Words from the Silo. And it's very, very good. And I'd recommend that people add that into their repertoire of things that they're using to try to get their brain around these issues that we're facing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thanks, Kim. A year ago, we started... that it became obvious that there's so many issues that are surfacing that it just basically, well, it keeps me up all night. And that's how we got started, because we figure that what keeps me up keeps everybody else up. And we take the common sense approach of answering questions that I know people have, because people are smart enough not to believe everything they hear. And then look at the opportunity or another side of an issue. Brad Petula is very good on that. It's a good balance, and you can watch it on YouTube or you can listen to it. But some of the hot subjects that we talked about in the first 20 episodes were one is women in combat. That was a touchy one. I thought I'd get a lot of flack on that. I didn't. I got all 100% positive responses because we take a common-sense approach here. to that so and now the very first one we did was uh it was kind of jokingly but we heard greenland might be for sale and i spent quite a bit of time uh in another life uh out on the sea ice put the night stations uh when we had a classified project uh tracking soviet submarines around and uh so i had that was our very first one didn't necessarily keep me up all night but the fact that that the country is thinking about the value of that piece of the world was refreshing to me. And I was worried that we weren't thinking about it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and that was quite a conversation. And we did an interview with you where you explained a bit about that mission where you were on these floating pieces of ice and Soviet submarines. It's like, wow, it's pretty fascinating. What would you say, which podcast would you say that... you think that you got the most response from that as far as people said, gosh, this really hit a nerve?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, like I mentioned, there's our readiness and the military readiness. And I spent 20 years in the Army and in most of those in special operations. But I did have a tour in combat with a rifle company where I was company commander of 100% draftees. And I mean 100% draftees. And I consider that one of the most rewarding tours I had. But that gave me an awful good appreciation for the value of our young people that have to fight these wars if our politicians fail in achieving peace. So the readiness ones I received an awful lot. I'm very critical of our top-heavy command structure, and I think the current administration, I'm not making it sound political at all, but I'm really behind them on that. They're trimming the fat, and no pun intended, because there's a bunch of fat people leaders out there, not set an example. If we're gonna fight a war, then we've gotta have the very best, and the very best in motivation in young men and women that we can field. To do less would be irresponsible. A waste of taxpayer money and the risk of losing a war.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, in speaking of readiness, I was thinking that we need to – there's all this discussion about becoming healthy again, making America healthy again. And our military certainly needs to be trim and in shape. But I think that we have a responsibility as civilians to start to work on that as well, Drew. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we do. One of the hurdles that the recruiting, even though we're meeting our goals now in all the services, I believe it's all the services, record recruiting level, our pot that we pick from are not so healthy. I've heard figures at less than 20 percent or 30 percent in that neighborhood are of young people would qualify to be in the military, either for low physical condition or maybe their background or whatever. But, you know, it's a challenge. And as citizens, we need to – all what we're talking about at the center is building a culture that people are proud of. You know, you don't get on – As a leader, don't just say, okay, I want you to defend this and take care of your buddies. Okay, you do that with building a spirit of court, but a country that is willing, makes men and women willing to make sacrifices for each other is something that is built. It's a strong foundation. It's not something you order them to do. Let's face it, you can't order... courage and order success on the battlefield if times are tough. Someone has to rally and surface, and they do that because they love this country and those that build and make the country the way it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and true, this big, broad middle of Americans, that they're busy with their lives. But I think that the Charlie Kirk assassination has been, it's kind of like the JFK assassination. I think everybody remembers where they were when they heard about that. And I think it's jolted people. and so I think it's a good time. I think people are hungry for these principles again, this big, broad middle. I guess the big, broad middle of America, I think, is paying more attention than it did before Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER 15 :
And obviously, you know, I knew of him, and I saw him every now and then pop up on some YouTube thing, but And I like what he was saying, but now that it's inundated with what he was saying, he was just like a disciple moving around, trying to get those young people to open their minds up and not to be hateful. to each other, but to give them an opportunity to hear the other side of it. Some of those are ridiculous, and where they challenge him, and you can laugh about it, because that's what's happening, is those people are not stupid, they're just ignorant about some things, and they're young people especially, or mimicking what someone else has said without verifying The validity of it. So he's done, was doing some good work, and I hate to say this, it's unfortunate, but his death has caused an eye-opening approach that we've got to solve this problem, and not just violence. I think we're going to, it's ratcheting up, but I believe that it's going to come to a time when people have enough violence And they're going to back up our law enforcement to get civil again to each other.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and so, Drew, we've got just about a minute left. And the work that you're doing at the Center for American Values, and I would highly recommend that people... Check it out. And you do great on values events, which I highly recommend. But I also, the first time I went to the center, I was there just by myself. And the director at that time just kind of took me around. And it's a place also, and you're open seven days a week unless there's a private event, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right, seven days a week. You might check the hours, but it's basically 10 to 4, six days a week, and I believe it's 1 to 4 on Sunday. But we're open, and if someone has a group to come down and you want to do it on a different time, give us a call. We'll accommodate you because that's what we do. We're to show off what we do, and we're proud of it. And the docents down there know their subject, and they'll give you the background of what you're doing. And I might even be down there. I'm down there a lot. Yes, you are. So I'd like to see you.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, Drew Dix, you and Brad have co-founders of the center. It's really an amazing place. So I'd recommend that people also support the center, and they can do that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. Drew Dix, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you, Kim. Have a good day.
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You too. And our quote for the end of the show is from Samuel Adams. He said this, It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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You know, when we were talking with Karen Gorday and she said that the ballots are going to be mailed out for this election on October 10th, that's one week from tomorrow. And there will be two statewide questions, Proposition LL, Proposition MM. which it's the old for the children, have that in air quotes, to create more bureaucracy and more taxes. So I will be working on our voter's guide on that, but explaining why. I would highly recommend a no vote, but give you my reasoning, and then you can use that as a tool. And we'll make probably more of a 30,000-foot view on a number of these other questions on local ballots because I know up in Wellington there's going to be a request for a tax increase for the fire department. And we need to stop having government grow. And the way to do that is to quit giving them more and more money. So we'll talk a lot about that. Let's see here. I had coming in on the text line a question about getting candidates on the show. And any candidate that reaches out to me, I will get some time for them on the show. I'd highly recommend that they text me at 720-605-0647, which is our text line. But they can also email me at Kim at KimMunza.com as well. And I will get candidates on. I am going to moderate. a candidate forum for the gubernatorial candidates on Saturday, October 18th, up in Loveland. And it will be at Res Church 6502 East Crossroads Boulevard in Loveland. And at this point, I know that Trent Lisey is trying to get all of the candidates that have announced for governor to be there. So it's going to be very interesting. And of course, we would love to have you join us. And I will be the moderator on that. So check that out. All this happens because of all your support and our sponsors. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams. and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And if you missed our number one, as you know, we're live six to eight. If you missed that, it will rebroadcast this afternoon in the one to two hour. And we featured Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient and co-founder of the Center for American Values in Pueblo. And the center is non-political, non-partisan, but focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism, which those seem to me like values that we can all unite around. And so check out the center, support it. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. Our word of the day, and thank you to Terry for this. He gave me both the word of the day and the initial quote from Samuel Adams, is ignominy. And it's spelled I-G-N-O-M-I-N-Y. It could be great personal dishonor or humiliation, public disgrace, reproach, infamy. And the quote was this from Samuel Adams, who was one of our founding fathers. He was a signer to the Declaration of Independence and founder of the Sons of Liberty, which they're the ones that dressed up as Indians and threw the tea over the side of the ship in Boston Harbor. And he said this, he said, if therefore a people will not be free, if they have not virtue enough to maintain their liberty against a presumptuous invader, they deserve no pity and are to be treated with contempt and ignominy. And that is Samuel Adams. Let's see. Wanted to make sure that I mentioned I think that I think that's good. Karen Levine is on the line. You know her. She's a dear friend. We've known each other for many, many years. She is an award winning realtor with Remax Alliance. Karen Levine, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. And I have been out of town and had guest hosts and I have one other trip coming up soon. And you're going to guest host the show here soon. Well, that is the plan.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's going to be great. I will, yes, just ask for a lot of grace from the listeners, but we're going to have some good conversations, I think.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and that's what we really are focused on is conversations. I've been out of town. And so what's happened over the last week or so with the fall selling season?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you had made a suggestion about preparing your home for sale in the fourth quarter or as we move into the fall season. And whether that's preparing it to live in it or preparing it to sell it, some of the things are very similar, which... Some of the thoughts I had were we all need to start thinking about getting our sprinkler systems winterized. And if we're going to be selling our home, we want that done to assure that the sprinkler system will be in good maintenance and repair next spring for the new owner. And, of course, for ourselves, we don't want to have maintenance issues next spring as well. So something to put on your calendar to get that done here in the next probably 30 days, six weeks before winter. And then a lot of people, homeowners and home sellers, forget that they should have their furnace cleaned and serviced and ensure that it is safe and that the filter has been changed as we go into the winter season. And we should change our filters regularly. pretty much every 30 days when we're in the winter heating season. But one of the biggest or most common things asked for in a home inspection is to ensure that the furnace has been cleaned and serviced in the last 12 months. So you can get a jump on that. Let me give a plug for Ben's Plumbing and Heating.
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To do that for you. Great sponsor of the show. That number is 303-995-1636. And I'd recommend that people reach out to get that done. And furnaces are expensive, so maintenance on it is important, isn't it, Karen? Sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is, and I have found that my clients that have kept their furnaces well-serviced, cleaned, have changed their filters on a regular basis, they do get an extended life out of those furnaces. And although an inspector will tell a buyer, hey, that furnace is approaching the end of its useful life, but I don't see any issues with it, there are reputable companies, and Ben's probably – guessing one of those that would say it is safe and doesn't need to be replaced if that is the case absolutely and there are yeah other hvac furnace companies out there that be due to age alone they would tell you that that needed to get replaced and that's a big expense for everyone so those were a couple of items i thought that were important to think about this time of year the other thing is is if you are considering making a move selling your existing home to either find something smaller something larger because your family's growing or you're thinking of relocating If we start a conversation, you're interested in using my services, I provide what's called a walk and talk. And that is an appointment with a professional stager that will walk us through your home and give suggestions about how we can best present your home. And the number one thing that's going to be on that list is decluttering. And we do a lot of spring cleaning, so now's a good time to do fall cleaning. And start going through some closets. You know, maybe skinning down some things. Editing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Getting things out of our homes. I have some editing I need. And I am starting to work on that, Karen Levine. So I am. I'm working on that. How can people reach you? It's an endless task here. I know. Buying a home, selling a home, new build. How can people reach you?
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Well, they can reach me by giving me a call or giving me a text at 303-877-7516. That's Karen Levine for Everything Residential Real Estate, 303-877-7516.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. And are you craving a real New York style pizza and pasta? I have to tell you, I'm craving a calzone from Little Richie's and they are in Parker and Golden. And they have authentic New York flavor with Colorado roots from daily specials and weekday lunch deals to a happy hour worth planning around. They are your neighborhood favorite. They're always serving up something worth stopping for. And again, that's Little Richie's in Parker and in Golden. On the line with me is Virginia Maka. She is a wealth of knowledge on very important issues that we are facing in our country. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. She understands the importance of our farming and ranching communities. And that the connection to our urban areas is that we go to the grocery store. We've taken for granted reliable food sources, abundant, affordable. Same with our energy. And she is all over it. Virginia Maka, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning, Kim. That was a very interesting segment before because I do need to clean out my closet and I might have to call Karen myself.
SPEAKER 05 :
She's a wealth of knowledge as well. Virginia Maka, Stand for the Land Kansas. Tell us how and why you founded that. And people are reaching out to us here in Colorado as well for your expertise. But tell us how you started it and what you've learned.
SPEAKER 06 :
you know this was really just a a project of god to drop me into this utility sector and it's a very hard subject matter to understand they have a lot of acronyms and you have to learn who's who and who has what power and the one thing that i did test was do people understand eminent domain because we were we had 1.2 million acres on a transmission line under assault and landowners there were over 200 of them that were going to be eminent domain this land this land is so connected to our freedom and people are very passionate about their land and that's how I got involved because Our survey showed out of 150,000 homeowners, 86% of them not only understood eminent domain, but responded to the ad and went to our page. So we were not really expecting that kind of response right out of the gate. But it was so necessary to address it early that I could see where this was going and it was to turn into a large land grab, that's exactly what it did. And we get to pay for those transmission lines.
SPEAKER 05 :
So these transmission lines ostensibly are from industrial solar and wind projects to supposedly get, I have this in quotes now, renewable energy to the urban areas, yes? Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
So with the Entire renewable industry, it can't function without government subsidies. And during this COVID period, there were a lot of executive orders written by our President Biden. And they literally changed not only your power to protect your land, but gave government overreach and changed the way our federal tax dollars flow through the treasure without oversight. So these subsidies are in the trillions of dollars every year. So you see it's directly connected to our debt. So renewables have a very large footprint. So they had to come to the Midwest and use that premise to expand renewables here in America. Now the only place that's missing solar is our deserts, which is kind of strange that desert doesn't have solar in it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I remember when I was first on the air that there was this big solar, industrial solar project in the Mojave Desert. And now I'm drawing a blank. I think it started with a U. And I thought, I looked at the amount of land that was being used for that and I couldn't believe it. But that is, it's going out of business. They're closing that down. And what's going to happen? I wonder what's going to happen with all those solar panels. Are they going to put the land back to how it was before? I doubt it. What do you think? Let me find the name of that.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, that's the expensive part is the decommissioning. Most of those panels, within a year or two do not function at an efficient rate so you're actually saying it's going to be worth this much energy and it's producing less and as each one of those panels sunsets itself early your problem is decommissioning and yes that desert was the largest of its kind with photovoltaic solar, and those panels are toxic. So what the plan will be and who will pay for it, I imagine it will be the taxpayers. Again. Again. Again. We seem to be popular in that field. And how they dispose of them is really up in the air. Now, come to Colorado and Utah, Your state has a terrible problem with these panels. They're stacked and stored in quarries because there's no other solution to address it. And so they stack them out of sight. A lot of your solar fields that are standing now, the panels will be perpendicular to them. uh to the earth to the land which is straight up and down and that's a signal that that panel no longer works so if that's what you see in the solar fields you pass that panel is no longer functional but they don't have any other option but to put it perpendicular to the the earth because it is um It doesn't function and actually hailstorms really are tragic to this whole experiment. And I call it an experiment because they're literally changing the reliability of our energy with renewables.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and the reliability is that it's not reliable. And I found that, and this was January 30th, 2025, from AP News. It was 11 years after celebrating the opening. The massive solar plant, Ivanpah, appears to be headed for closure. So now the question is, we need to be shedding light on this. What is going to happen to that land? Because... It's the same question with the wind turbines and taking the amount of land that is being taken for solar projects. I'm not calling them fuels anymore. Right. Virginia, because that implies farming and ranching. I'm calling them industrial solar projects and wind industrial projects. Because what's going to happen is nobody asked about this decommissioning. And even if these big companies that have been getting all these tax credits to put in these industrial projects, they need to be putting up money now. for the decommissioning so that the taxpayer will not be on the hook for that because we already have been on the hook for getting them built through all these tax credits and tax credits and incentives, Virginia.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. I actually have been working monitoring your situation in Colorado because it seems as though Kansas was the epicenter of the experiment and we're about two years ahead of you and we have really worked hard at the county level to hold back the expansion of this bad experiment and this is why because the soil that solar sits on can can't be brought back once you kill the organisms in the topsoil. That soil, or actually they remove the topsoil, and then what organisms are left in the soil, they kill off those colonies. And once you do that, you will see the earth has no nutrition and it becomes dust. And that's what Colorado does. has now happening in the southern part of colorado where the solar and the wind are they have respiratory problems the populations are suffering asthmatic because of the dust so i guess it's really hard to wrap your mind around it so i did a little just a general estimate And trying to give your audience a picture of something that they can visualize how big the mass of land being removed for electric and transmission and renewable is in your state.
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Okay, let's keep that as our cliffhanger, Virginia Maka, because it is so significant, this discussion that we're having right now. This is happening. People don't realize it. And it's really... something that we've got to stay on top of and these discussions happen because of our sponsors and we need to protect our rights our bill of rights our freedom of speech and the second syndicate is doing amazing work on protecting our second amendment rights which the second amendment is there to protect all the other rights
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SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and these are really guesstimates to the very minimum size. This is minimal. Usually they come in and take blanket easements where the landowner actually loses control of the property. So just the easement on the Colorado corridor transmission line that Albert and El Paso counties are battling, just the easement alone, that's 150 foot wide, it takes up Around 10,000 acres. So let's put 10,000 acres into a perspective. And that's about 8,000 football fields.
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8,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
That means 8,000 football fields are going to be repurposed in land use. That's giant. And the public will never understand. have control back over that easement, nor will the landowners. So Excel has actually exceeded expectations on how many properties that they've taken by eminent domain. And there's 13 people in Albert County that were served eminent domain papers just a couple of weeks ago.
SPEAKER 05 :
So this 48-mile segment... And even though the Elbert County commissioners voted to deny this permit... Xcel Energy is out there taking people's land. And eminent domain in the Constitution, it says that if land is taken via eminent domain, that people are supposed to receive just compensation. But I consider it a takings because, again, you get over there to the just compensation, and that's a whole other conversation. So eminent domain, these people don't want to sell their land, and so Xcel says we're going to use eminent domain to take it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. And you have to prove necessity, public necessity. These transmission lines will be paid for by the right holders in Colorado. That means you're going to pay for this expansion. Your governor wants to be 100% renewable. So at this moment, they are actually decommissioning your fossil fuel, which are your coal and gas burning power producers. That's like taking your electric clear off line and using candles and thinking that you have reliable electric. Because when you lose your reliable, which is your fossil fuel type of utilities, And you change that out for electric that's not constant, which the sun doesn't shine in the night and the wind doesn't blow all the time. So by doing this, it puts the entire state of Colorado at risk. And if your grid went down 100% renewable, you would not have the kind of energy it needs to bring that grid back up. And that is your fossil fuels. So A mix of these two things could be okay, say 20% renewable, which actually we have 30% in Kansas, but you have to think you're not going to be expanding economic development, manufacturing, and all those things that we enjoy when we go over and turn the light switch on or we have the power coming into our homes. So just think about this. 127,000 acres currently and future projects that are following this transmission line, 127,000 acres will be repurposed from agriculture to solar, wind, and battery with substations all along the line. That's 96,000 football fields. That is, to me, a tremendous beatdown of eastern Colorado repurposing land, and it's going to be just sad if we don't get control of this. 100% renewable.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is just silly. So, Virginia, what about the Trump administration? They've said that they want to get rid of these tax credits and incentives for industrial wind and solar projects, which I totally agree. However, when we had Trent Luce on, he said that, yes, the administration has said this, but we're seeing right here in Colorado that the continuation. We're seeing it up in Wyoming. Is it that the Trump administration is saying one thing and doing another, or is it that it's difficult to get this, you know, send the messages down to these projects? What is your thoughts on that, Virginia?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we have to look at how this all was implemented. We had three years of Joe Biden writing executive orders. He used over 11 cabinet positions, that means agencies, establishing through them thousands and thousands of changes of the rules and regs. And there wasn't a paper trail because Joe Biden passed the Paper Reduction Act. So Let's talk about the tax credits. In 2023, Excel alone collected $850 million of federal transferable tax credits. Transferable is key here because Joe Biden made it so that Excel can transfer those tax credits, which are like, say, free money, free cash, like a poker chip, and you can go out onto auctions and sell those tax credits to another party for cash and it's not reportable income and it's not taxable so the irs has no way to trace the paperwork no way to trace the transaction because they say it's private and that is why we sued janet yellen and the irs and the epa because of the transferable tax credits for incentivizing the ignoring of the environmental laws. So we have to untangle those thousands of agencies. What a massive task our president has. But here's what we can do. The local level is what holds back the dyke. You can put a cash bond, the utilities pay every year to the county for if something hazardous happens and you have to clean up or you have to decommission. And that cash bond is not returned to the company. It is a cash bond they have to put up front. They can do things like that. They can require at the local level, and that is what I see, this wonderful little group of environmentalists there that have helped Albert County stand up, and that's the Environmental Alliance. And these people have really held the line, and they're the ones facing eminent domain. Okay. This is a fight for our land and our freedom. It is absolutely no different than what they fought for in the Revolutionary War. It is very similar.
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Virginia, you and I were talking, and you said that these Elbert County commissioners and these El Paso County commissioners that voted to deny this Colorado transmission program, line of by excel will really they have their finger in the dike you said this is this is huge what is happening and so excel now is going to the puc and here you have an unelected unaccountable bureaucracy that is giving this uh company uh the power of eminent domain and And so we'll keep that as our cliffhanger, Virginia, because I know you've got a lot to say about that. We're talking with Virginia Maka. We're talking about saving our land and our food source and our power sources. And it is right under our noses that this is all under attack. And so we've got to continue talking about it. And we do this because we are an independent voice and we're independent because of your support and because of our sponsors. And thank you to Karen Gorday and Radiant Painting and Lighting. Is the outside of your home looking dull?
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out the USMC Memorial Foundation. It's a nonprofit I dearly love. The official Marine Memorial is right here in Golden, 6th and Colfax. And Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation and her team, are raising money to take care of the memorial and this amazing remodel. And it is so important to remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And we're called to support them, usmcmemorialfoundation.org, and do our part in this battle of ideas. A woman that is doing that is Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas, but she is starting to understand what's happening here in Colorado It is a big deal. And Producer Joe, during the break, said something interesting. He said, a lot of people say, oh, tax credits, that doesn't really affect me. But connect the dots. If an organization is getting a break through tax credits... then government isn't reducing their spending so that revenue has to come from someplace. And in the case of the federal government, it's by taxing us or borrowing. And so tax credits, tax incentives, we need to get back to this vision of the declaration that we're all treated equally. And once we do that, we start to make better decisions. And that means no tax credits, no tax incentives. We're all treated equally. What do you think, Virginia Maka?
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And this battle, it can be won. It can be stopped. And we can stop the damage now. And there's some things that you don't think everyday people can do. But if they just took the time to do a few simple things, and one of them is stand up and have an opinion in your community. And give courage to those that serve because that gives them courage to do the right thing. And that is what has been honestly hijacked at our local level of government is the bully tactics that these energy companies demonstrate at the local level. They're threatening. And landowners that are surrounded by solar just give in because they're They're going to be surrounded by solar. It doesn't do their land any good. And they just succumb to whatever, you know, their neighbor has signed up for. It becomes attractive. Because it's an emotional as well as a physical drain on every landowner.
SPEAKER 05 :
It is. When I went out to the hearing where the Elbert County commissioners, then the next day they reconvened the meeting and they denied Excel the permit. And Excel, the permit that they were requesting was incomplete. But bear in mind, my friends. The permit was denied, and Excel is out there still serving eminent domain on these farmers and ranchers in Elbert County. And, Virginia, you and I talked just the other day, and you've been watching this closely, and I heard this, and it perked my concerns, I would say, and that was that the judge was going to try to put all of these eminent domain documents questions all together. And I thought, that's danger, danger, because then there will be just one decision instead of hearing all of these different eminent domain questions. And that is happening. Yes, Virginia? Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
When you do that, you take away a person's right to represent their property. And every property is different. And every property is not necessary to
SPEAKER 05 :
The transmission line... Not necessary meaning... What do you mean not necessary?
SPEAKER 06 :
So sometimes necessity isn't met by the utility company to take that land by eminent domain. If you lump all of the properties together... Oh, got it. They eliminate the necessity part of proof. And the proof of burden of necessity is very, very... It has criteria and it's very tough for a utility company to actually present in court. So they usually take the property owner to court and then they beat the property owner down in legal fees to where they just succumb and sign. And that's not what we're seeing in Kansas because these people are rising back up and they're taking them to task. And the utility companies, they are really struggling to prove that necessity part of eminent domain that is laid out in our Constitution. A little fact, Excel, just been in your state for a couple of years during this transmission line. During 2020 to 2025, Excel has initiated over 200 actions across your state uh for eminent domain and but you know like over 30 of those potential cases are in albert county and those people really need encouraged to withstand the pressure of the large utility company and that includes your state representatives and your state senators tell them this hundred percent renewable is not a good plan but the one thing that really changed for um colorado and you guys have stronger uh property rights than we do in kansas it was your 2006 amendment one where you could limit what can be taken for economic development and so some of uh Those things are being ignored by your unelected committees, like your transmission and your public utility. So those are some real, I mean, just have a conversation. Let's have an open conversation. And that's what I see not happening. Your utility users in Colorado, eastern Colorado, Excel is not their service provider, not to all of them. The average bill for Colorado people, it's estimated, they don't even know, but it is estimated that your bill will not double, not triple. It will be about four to six times the bill that you're receiving now. And I don't know too many families that can sustain that.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it's not sustainable. All the words that they use, sustainable, it's not sustainable. And... So with Excel, I like power. I like to turn my lights on. I like to be cool in the summer and warm in the winter. And I appreciate that. But Excel and the radical activists in our government are in bed together right now, Virginia.
SPEAKER 06 :
They absolutely are. And when you have town halls attended, just go. And be present because that congressman or congresswoman, which Eastern Colorado has, they're good people. And that gives them a sign of if they see one person, they're thinking there's a hundred or more at home that couldn't show up. And so that means a lot to them to find the courage. And if you don't show up, they think, You don't care. So if you have time, just go to a town hall and help the congresswoman stand up. There could be a letter written to our president as well as our Federal Energy Regulation Commission and the Department of Energy. They are hiding all the climate change committees under different names now, like rapid grid deployment. I was over there.
SPEAKER 05 :
So when you say they, that would make it sound like that the Trump administration is still supportive of this.
SPEAKER 06 :
They are not supportive, but it is very hard the way that the legal barriers have been set up.
SPEAKER 05 :
So these bureaucrats are just changing the names of what they had. So this is difficult to unravel.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is very difficult. And if you were a secretary that just came into office trying to evaluate all the bureaucrats that have been there, For years, and especially under the Biden administration, there's so many rules and regs that they put into place without following protocol of the Administration Act, where there is a protocol to address NEPA. There are protocols to establish committees, and none of that was followed. So it's very hard for the president to keep his finger, and he's trying to find good people to help his secretaries identify all of this. It's a mountain to climb, per se, in Colorado. It would be a mountain to climb.
SPEAKER 05 :
But we can climb it. We're going to climb it. Not climb it, change, but climb it. And we are going to protect our land. Virginia, we're basically out of time. What's your final thought? And we will get you on again very soon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Your little saying, freedom versus force, force versus freedom. This is where we're at. And it is the regular guy that does extraordinary things that can change the dynamics of what's going on. And all you have to do is find your voice. And it doesn't have to be harsh or nor confrontational. Just ask the simple common sense questions and boil it down to family budgets and the quality of life we enjoy in America with freedom. And that resonates with everyone across the board. And it gives other people passion to also have a voice. So you're encouraging, but you're also giving permission for people to find their voice. And that's how we save America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Virginia Maka, stand for the land, Kansas. And it's the number four stand for the land, Kansas. Thank you. We'll talk again soon. Thank you, Kim, for allowing me to speak to your audience. And our quote for the end of the show is Samuel Adams. He said, You will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men. So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
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Join Angie Austin and Jim Stovall as they embark on a journey through the majestic landscapes of Estes Park and delve into heartwarming stories from Tennessee. In this episode, they discuss the impressive bull elks of the Rockies and Tennessee's unique Southern charm. Tune in for delightful tales of nature and family adventures that offer a fresh perspective on the beauty that surrounds us.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin, Jim Stovall with The Good News. I just wanted to chit-chat with you a little bit first, Jim, and tell everybody about that trip up to Estes Park. But we just got back from Tennessee as well, and my daughter got another offer for a really great school in Tennessee that I think this time we're going to take this one. fantastic yeah this is good and good news in higher education all right so the bull elk up at ymc the rockies i sent you guys a picture it was it's enormous and i heard i was in rocky mountain national park trying to find elk right and i heard all these photographers talking about you know big sam or whatever his name is they've nicknamed him because there used to be a huge one at ymc the rockies who was no longer there like his head's up on the wall you know kind of thing he's And so now there's another one. And I don't know what they named him, but I was eavesdropping on these photographers saying, yeah, well, I saw him once in the park, but everybody's seen him at the Y. So we love the YMCA, the Rockies. Our family stayed up there a bazillion times. So I drive up there with my husband because we went for the day. I made him take the day off work and everything because I love to go up there. It's like two hours, you know. So we get up there, and what do I see right outside Arts and Crafts Center is this enormous elk on the top of the hill. And all the other herds I'd seen, the guys had like 10 ladies, 15 ladies. He had 35 ladies. So this bull elk had like the harem of all harems, right? So he's standing up. As the picture I sent you, he's under the swing set. And his antlers are like basically touching the top of the swing set. But it was so cool because we saw five herds. And no idiots, nobody trying to take elk selfies.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they're so cool. And here's an Oklahoma story. Crystal and I got married back in the early 80s. And I was developing a piece of property on a huge lake north of here. And We had 30 acres and then next to us, a guy had 90 that was not developed to just virgin land. And the wildlife department decided they were going to bring in a pair of elk to see if they could, you know, raise them and they would procreate here in Oklahoma. Well, somebody that actually got to go to prison shot the male elk. So they always told us this female, this widowed female elk is running around. Well, we had this berry patch on the part of our property, and it was pretty isolated over there. And Crystal comes running back one day. She'd been down there picking berries. And she said, there's a giant camel in our berry patch. And I said, babe, I'm pretty sure they don't have camel. She said, well, I didn't stand there very long to look at it. It was staring at me and started making noises. She said, well, we checked, and it's this widowed elk. So after a while, Crystal kind of tamed the thing, named it Molly, and she could go up and pick berries and then leave a bucket of berries, and it would come right over to her and eat them and all this. So we lived with the female, Molly, for a long, long time. She was great.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, they're such magnificent animals. And it's just fun to see them and, I don't know, the bugling. And it's fun to, they're exhausted, you know, because the males are constantly trying to keep the females from running off. So the minute they get kind of like out of line, plus they're also fending off males all the time. I've only seen two males fighting. for dominance. Up in Evergreen, Colorado, they were like, you know, ramming each other in the head. And I don't know all the, you know, idiosyncrasies of, you know, elk rutting or mating. But, you know, once that one gets pretty much whooped, he takes off. But that poor guy that's guarding the harem, he's got to whoop all the guys and keep all the ladies in line. So they're like exhausted.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it sounds like a Saturday night in the country and Western bar.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right, right. But I'm going to send you some videos from Tennessee. We loved it. And we got to go to the barbecue festival that was right off campus. And so there was hog calling. There was like a pig rescue. So my daughter got to get in with the pigs, which are apparently extremely smart, like a three-year-old. And they had like a vocabulary of 200 words. Not that they could speak them, but I guess understand these words well. And so and then they had like, you know, country and Western bands and the hog calling that was precious. I've got to send it to you. I mean, it was like straight out of central casting. One of the guys was Billy Weenis. And then the guy says, no, I just want to make it clear. It's little Billy Weenis. Right. So I'm thinking a little kid's going to come up on stage. It is a man that's six, six, three hundred and fifty pounds. Little Billy Weenis. And I'm like, OK, his dad must be Big Billy. But that's so Southern to me that he was named Little Billy as a kid. And now he's this enormous man and he's still Little Billy.
SPEAKER 06 :
I have to tell you, Angie, it's always talking to you every week is always a cultural experience. I'm never quite sure where we're going to be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we did get to vote on the antique tractor contest. And one said on the side, the guy had passed away, but this was his Pride Joy 1935 John Deere tractor. And so it was antique tractors, and then you pick your favorite one. And I picked that one because it said, a tractor is just like your wife. If it ain't yours, don't go messing with it.
SPEAKER 05 :
There you go. That is some good advice right there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think we'll be going to Tennessee a lot more next year. All right. So she got to play with the team, too. I'll send you some videos. OK, so what are we learning this week in our winner's wisdom column?
SPEAKER 06 :
We're talking about good and evil. And it's an interesting topic having to do with money. And for 25 years, I've been writing these syndicated columns that go around the world. And my contact info is there. So I hear from people. And the number one thing people want to know about is they want to get rich, they want to have more money, they want to be happy, all those sorts of things. And I think, you know, so I put together this millionaire survey that people can take. And, you know, the interesting thing in this assessment I put together is it looks at your views on money. And most people, if they're totally honest, they grew up with, You know, many misguided people in the church said money is evil when the Scripture says the love of money is evil. Money is neither good nor bad. It's just a tool. It can build a cathedral, a church. It can feed people, or it can build missiles and kill people. I mean, money is inert. But if you really believe that money is evil, but you say you want to become wealthy— You know, deep down, you've got this dichotomy inside of you that's very, very hard to overcome. So one of the things I've done in several of my books, and we try to do with people, is change their thinking on what money is. And, you know, for Crystal and I, going from poverty to prosperity has enabled us to help so many people. We've sent 500 kids to college, and we've fed people around the world. And those things would not have been possible without the money. and now just because you have money doesn't mean you're going to do good things but you know and a lot of people tell me what their priorities in life are but if you really want to see what somebody's priorities are you look at two things look at their calendar and look at their bank account how do you spend your time and how do you spend your money no matter what you tell me the reality is what's most important to you is how you spend your time and your money And, you know, I remember meeting a colleague who was a professional speaker, but he's a road warrior. I'll only take three or four gigs a month. He is out there all the time. And one day I asked him, I said, what are you doing this for? I mean, what is your good? Well, I want to spend more time with my children. They haven't seen you in six months. I mean, what are you talking about? I mean, I think they would be more interested in spending a weekend with their dad than then how much is in your bank account? Obviously, you've got to take care of the family, but this is ridiculous. So you can tell me it's about your kids, but really you've got to look a little deeper, and that gets to Stovall's 11th commandment, which is thou shalt not kid thyself.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love that commandment.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think we, you know, I mean, you know, the most dangerous lies we ever tell are the ones we tell ourselves, and we believe that stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think so. I think so. And I think, you know, Grandpa was telling me he wishes things were flipped, that he could have worked a lot now and spent more time with his kids because he worked so hard so many years as a union president. And he worked, you know, in the cat factory and then became a union president outside of Chicago. So he was pretty, you know, pretty busy and traveling, etc. And he wished he could have spent the time with the kids and then worked hard the years when the kids are gone, basically.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, one of my favorite literary characters is a guy named Travis McGee, a fictitious guy written by John McDonald back in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and he probably wrote 30 books about this guy. But the interesting thing, he lived on a houseboat down in Florida, and he would always not work when he had a certain amount of money, and then it was like a gas tank. Once it got down to yee, he would be, okay, now I'm going to go work, but Before it got to E, he would just tell everybody, oh, I'm taking a piece of my retirement right now. So here's this young guy taking a piece of his retirement, but when the account gets down to E, then he'll go to work for a little while. And in an interesting way, it makes a good novel. I'm not sure it would make a good lifestyle, but it makes a good novel.
SPEAKER 03 :
So in terms of do you have any unique regrets? I mean, I know you guys don't have kids, but you've got so many people you do things for and with and ties to the community. And all that time you spent with your parents before they passed, they lived a long time. So you had a ton of time with them. Do you think you readjusted your priorities so you did the things that were important even while you were becoming successful?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, we did. And I've told you before, but that all happened for me. One day, you know, in my 30s, I come home from work and I told Crystal, I'm really excited. This deal I've been working on, you know, for all year finally came through. And I realized she has no idea what I'm talking about. We were that far disconnected. And then I also realized my parents live two miles away from my home and I hadn't seen him in three months. And I decided right then and there, both of these things change right now. And from then on, you know, I have the morning hour with Crystal and we have our date night. And I talk to mom and dad every morning from then on. And then we had dinner together at least once a week for the next 25 years. And that was such a blessing. And sometimes you just got to wake up and realize, wow, this isn't where I want to be.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love that. I love that you were able to still do well but set your priorities straight. I think we're pretty good. My husband doesn't golf. I'm not saying that golfing takes – but I do know a lot of friends whose husbands golf and they're gone a lot on the weekends. And he definitely spends all of his time with us. Now, we are going on – fall break next week without him just me and the girls because my son's in college and my husband's got a lot going on at work so but that's unusual for us to take you know a vacation without him usually he does like a working vacation and he'll work you know while we're doing all of our fun stuff and everything but yeah all right well anything going on with the movie we've got about another minute left anything going on that you know
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I just finished, well, they're still working on the Will to Win movie, I'm excited about that, and then I just finished a novel called Coach for Life, and a movie company has already optioned that for another film, so I'm excited about that, and yeah, things are really good. You know, I remain convinced that if William Shakespeare or Mark Twain or the Apostle Paul were alive and with us today, in addition to writing books, they'd be making movies, because it You just reach so many people with a film, even compared to a bestselling book. So I'm really excited about that and looking forward to more coming.
SPEAKER 03 :
Excellent. Well, I appreciate you, friend. I just get a kick out of all of our discussions and hearing about your books and everything you're doing with your family. And is there a new book coming out soon?
SPEAKER 06 :
I have, well, there are several books that will come out before that one I just finished. I have a book coming out that will be called Think Like a Dog that Beth here in my office and I did together. She trains dogs and I train people and we looked at what can we learn from one another. And then I have a book called Millionaire Answers that will be out after the first of the year. So those are the next two.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, the think like a dog, that just makes me laugh. You guys wrote it together and then you gave expert advice. That's for humans and to work with humans and dogs.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I mean, it's what, you know, how to train our dogs and what they teach us. And, you know, it's just, you know, I think it's fascinating because the When you look at them, they are wonderful beings, and I wish a lot of us were as good as they are. So we had a lot of fun with it, just doing the research and writing all about dogs and people.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love it. JimStilwell.com. Thank you, friend. You're welcome.
SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Golden is listening to the mighty 670 KLT Denver. Well, if you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. And joining us today is Tim Anderson, president and CEO of United States Federal Credit Union. In fact, it's United States Senate Federal Credit Union here to discuss the history of the USS FCC and how it has changed and evolved over the past 90 years. And to answer one of my top questions, what is the biggest difference between a credit union and a bank? Welcome to you, Tim.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Angie, and thank you for having me. And I always start with the cooperative versus for-profit. The biggest difference is banks, and I worked on the banking side, got many friends over there, but banks are for-profit. Credit unions are not for-profit. Same economist Milton Friedman once said, The sole responsibility of a for-profit organization is to make money for shareholders. It's not social. It's not community. It's to make money for shareholders at the credit union. That difference is our members own the credit union. We don't have shareholders. So in turn, we can give back to our members, whether it's giving back in lower loan rates, which generally we have, higher deposit rates, lower fees. For example, We were one of the first credit unions, you know, banks have and credit unions check an account. And if you overdraft an account, you write a check, don't have enough money, then they'll charge you a fee, $35, $40. We did away with that fee. So we believe that the not-for-profit model, that cooperative model, that's the biggest difference.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, in terms of the United States Senate Federal Credit Union, yours, there's a very interesting history I was reading about. Talk about 90 years ago, how this initially started, this nonprofit credit union.
SPEAKER 04 :
And thank you for that question. Yeah, we're celebrating 90 years, and we're pretty proud of that. We started back, founded in 1935, and nine United States Senate employees, including one senator, pooled together $45, $5 each, to start the credit union. And I often say that we were born out of the Great Depression because it was right at the height of the Great Depression that these nine United States Senate employees saw the need to start the credit union. And it was for doing tough times during the Great Depression to help support federal workers and financial services, accessible and affordable financial services.
SPEAKER 03 :
So these nine workers pool their resources. They come up with 45 bucks and they charter charter the United States Senate Employees Credit Union. 90 years later, it's still rolling. And, you know, I didn't realize I mean, I was a member of a credit union when my my grandmother was a teacher. And then I worked at a hospital and I was in a credit union both times. And so I guess I've been under the misconception that that. I had to be in a certain organization to be a member of like all credit unions. Now, is that the case for some that you have to be in a certain organization? And are there some credit unions that anyone can join?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And there are some credit unions that anyone can join. And there's some that still serve just like their select groups. Here at the United States Senate Federal Credit Union, Angie, anyone, anyone can be a member at the United States Senate Federal Credit Union. I mentioned those nine staffers, and they were made up of office staffers, committee members, and one senator and a custodian, those nine United States Senate employees. And we have grown exponentially. And to your point of can anyone join, we are – Around the country and around the world. And right now, there are 142 million plus members belonging to credit unions. And population wise, I think we have just over 330 million people in the country. in the U.S., and 142 million of them belong to credit unions. Wow, that's impressive.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let's talk a little bit about some of the changes in that 90 years, obviously, with the nine employees and the 45 bucks. Now you guys are massive. So what are some of the most significant changes that have occurred over the nine decades that you've been in operation?
SPEAKER 04 :
And there have been many, and I'll name a few. We started out of the basement of the Russell Building. We moved. Obviously, we grew, so we had to move, and we moved to Alexandria, Virginia. That's where we're headquartered now.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we began in the Senate Russell Building, the basement, when those non-staffers started the credit unions. So far, we've grown to just under $1.6 billion, so that $45 investment, $1.6 billion in assets. We have over 55,000 members. We're in all 50 states. We're around the world. We serve over 140 groups, including the Senate itself. That's where it all started. The Capitol Police, the architect of the Capitol, the Supreme Court, the government accounting office, and as I mentioned earlier, anyone, anyone across the country can be a member.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, in terms of some of your accolades, you actually have a pretty impressive one regarding what it's like to work at your place of work. So talk a little bit about that. I understand it was USA Today and Washington Post Top Workplace 2025. I mean, why? I mean, that's pretty impressive. How did you get that?
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, a CEO, that makes me proud, obviously, because we lay our hats on building a very good culture where our people can really thrive. And so the last couple of years, we have been named by the USA Today and the Washington Post as a top workplace. Now, that's a top workplace across all industries, not just banks and credit unions and financial services. That's all industries. So we're pretty proud of that. Our staff, they're pretty proud of that. And the reason why it's important to cultivate a good culture is because our people take care of our members. And so they do a great job with servicing our members. Also, we were just listed, Angie, in Forbes and Fortune magazine as a leading credit union in the D.C. area. We're doing a lot with innovation. We've done some pretty nifty things there. We have business partnerships with Broadcom. Also, NVIDIA, where we're doing some things with AI. We just received... AI awards for service awards, just doing a great job there, just staying in touch with what's going on in the digital world, what's going on in the AI world, because our members, they're asking for that. So I'm pretty proud of our team for winning those awards. And then we have a great marketing team. We just received this year a Trailblazer Award for our marketing, our branding, and we just do a great job of keeping the credit union front and center, but mainly because we want to make sure that we do a good job for our members.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, this doing these interviews, you know, with radio people, podcasters, TV people. I mean, I'm going to join now. I didn't I didn't know about you guys. So, you know, you're doing a good job in terms of getting the word out to the masses around the country. Now, what do you personally think? What makes it the best place to work in your opinion? Or what do you hear from your employees besides, you know, the AI and the great marketing? What what? I mean, it's a big deal to be the best workplace. I just ran into somebody last weekend. I was out with a bunch of my news friends from LA and we went to this little country, you know, restaurant. And I asked the girl, cause I'm such a journalist. I'm like, why do you, why are you so happy? Why do you like this job so much? Because this is the best place I've ever worked in, in my life. They really care about us. So what makes your place the best workplace in your opinion?
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, and, and it starts with just the caring part, right. And, I think it was Theodore Roosevelt, President Roosevelt, who said people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.
SPEAKER 01 :
I love that.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I was just walking down the hall this morning, and one of our employees who had been here like a year, and she said, again, this is the best place I've ever worked. So we lead with that. And what makes it the best place is we not only talk that talk, but we walk the walk. We care about the entire person, right? And I often say, yeah, we want to make sure that we do all the things to make sure that they're successful here at work. But even in their personal lives, we don't get into their personal lives, but we have to care what goes on in their personal lives so they could be their best authentic selves here. We create a safety that that whole idea of being able to be your authentic selves at work. We lay our hats on that. And so our people enjoy that culture. They know we care about them. And my biggest belief is when we take good care of them, they take good care of our members. And that's been proven. And they love to come to work here.
SPEAKER 03 :
I totally agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Psychological safety is a big one for us.
SPEAKER 03 :
I had a nanny once for my kids. She was probably with us like 10 years. And when she left, she started to cry. She has the best job she ever had. And I'm telling you right now, Tim, that's the best compliment I think you can ever get when you provide that environment. And in my case, it was one person that works in our family. But what a great feeling that is for you to provide that kind of environment. Let's talk about your foundations. I understand that your credit union, the USSFCU Foundation, launched its own foundations. You're a nonprofit. Tell us about the mission of the foundation. What's this all about?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, thank you so much. And we did launch the foundation this year in 2025. And we believe here at the United States Senate Federal Credit Union that financial services should be accessible to all. And it should be affordable financial services. But we believe that that starts with providing financial literacy. So through our foundation, we provide financial literacy, financial education, and wellness resources. We're community focused. We work with our youth and schools in the community. And we also utilize the foundation to improve just in general the livelihood of those most economically challenged. So we believe that with the foundation, we're able to do some of those things, get into the schools while they're still young, early on, teaching financial education, financial literacy. And there's a big need for that. And we want to fill that. We want to be right there in the community helping to fill that need.
SPEAKER 03 :
So Tim, I think I mentioned to you in the break, we were talking about my son and all my kids, they started investment accounts when they were around 13. My son started his business when he was 12. So he just bought a house. He's a sophomore in college. And we have teenagers come over and teach them about compound interest and give them scenarios about like skipping Starbucks or Taco Bell or whatever and how much that money will be later on in life. And the schools are starting to get kind of savvy to it. So I love what you're doing about giving this financial education. The school that he goes to, they have an investment class, or at least a high school that he went to. And they competed against each other at the end of the semester to see who he won, by the way, but to see who could make the most money in the stock market. And it was fake, but he was actually moving around his real money as, you know, in his investment account as they were doing the fake money in class. So I'm so glad people are starting to teach these kids how to manage their money, especially, you know, he's got a college roommate that's a football player. And these kids are making money in college now. They need to know how to manage it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And how cool is that with what your son is doing? You're absolutely right. It really starts right in and, you know, right in elementary school and throughout school where we're teaching those things. So kudos to your son. That's wonderful.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I'm thrilled that his business is he's eight years in now, age 20. So, yes, absolutely. I'm like his first volunteer. I travel around the country with him sometimes because he can't even rent a car yet, you know, because he's not old enough to rent his own car when we travel to all these big vintage events. All right. So I want to make sure people know where to get information and how they can join the credit union as well. I mean, it's very appealing when you talked about the nonprofit aspect, because you're trying to help us make money. You're not trying to necessarily make money. You're trying to help your members make money.
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Absolutely. And we can be reached, Angie, through our website at www.ussfcu.org. We also have social media channels, and you can do a search at USSFCU for the social media channels, and also podcasts. You can search USSFCU.
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Excellent. And again, Tim Anderson, President and CEO of the United States Senate Federal Credit Union. And just a real great education today, Tim. Thank you so much.
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Thank you for having me and have a great day. You too. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.

As the government faces a shutdown, today's episode provides an in-depth analysis of the key players and their political motivations. We critically evaluate the actions of Senate Democrats and Republicans as they clash over the inclusion of healthcare benefits for undocumented immigrants in budget negotiations. Through expert commentary, we gain a clearer understanding of how these developments may impact upcoming elections and the broader socio-political climate. In light of political strife, organizations like the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews demonstrate resilience and compassion, offering aid and advocacy in critical regions. Tune in to explore the intersection of politics, charity, and public sentiment as we navigate this tumultuous era.
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You know, one week from today, we will mark the second anniversary of the horrific October 7th terrorist attack in Israel. We saw Hamas fighters killing thousands of men, women, children. They took hostages, some of them still being held today. So starting today, we're kicking off our ask for you to support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. This is critically important work that they're doing right now. We asked IFCJ President Yael Eckstein about her organization's mission and what they're doing on the ground in Israel.
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Well, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is the largest philanthropic organization in Israel. We both provide ongoing support of food aid and we distribute over 3 million meals out of soup kitchens across Israel every single year. But we are also agile. We are the first ones agile. On the ground, when a rocket strikes, we're there. We're providing the bulletproof vests and helmets. These are saving lives. And praise God, praise God, we are his servants to be able to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the poor, and to be there just as the scriptures say, comfort, comfort my people, especially during times like this.
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So let me ask you today to help me help the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. We're kicking this off today. There's a banner posted at the top of Mike's website, MikeOnline.com. Just click on the banner and give generously, whatever you can afford, $25 or any amount that's comfortable for you. We just need to continue to support Christians and particularly the IFCJ. President Trump is right now trying to broker a final peace plan in the area. It's much needed. But the fighting still goes on. So please help by making your generous donation to IFCJ today at MikeOnline.com. MikeOnline.com. Just click on the banner across the top of the page. So Senate Democrats last night, as expected, would not support the clean, contending resolution that would keep the government open. So if you haven't heard, our federal government is closed for business. Hope you didn't have anything you needed help on today. But it's interesting to sit back and watch. I mean, it's kind of like watching a group of kindergarten kids argue over their favorite toy as both sides were pointing fingers at one another. Chuck Schumer saying, well, it's the Democrats' fault. I mean, it's the Republicans' fault. The Democrats are the good guys in this. The Republicans won't get on board. The Republicans are shutting down your government because they won't provide health care for illegals. Now, this was cut out during the one big beautiful bill back in the spring when negotiations were going on for that bill. I think Vice President J.D. Vance probably said it best when he talked about how the GOP was successful in cutting out healthcare for illegals back in the spring. Here's J.D. Vance.
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Look, the principle at stake here is very simple. We have disagreements about tax policy, but you don't shut the government down. We have disagreements about health care policy, but you don't shut the government down. You don't use your policy disagreements as leverage to not pay our troops, to not have essential services of government actually function. You don't say the fact that you disagree about a particular tax provision is an excuse. for shutting down the people's government and all the essential services that come along with it. If you look at what Chuck Schumer has said in the past consistently, it's whatever our disagreements are, let's negotiate with them. Let's talk about them. Let's figure out a bipartisan solution. But you don't shut the government down. In other words, you don't put a gun to the American people's head and say, unless you do exactly what Senate and House Democrats want you to do, we're going to shut down your government. That's exactly what they're proposing out there. Now, we have to remember, they're very frustrated. They say that they're very frustrated about the fact that this negotiation has not taken place until today. But if you look at the original thing they did with this negotiation, it was a $1.5 trillion spending package, basically saying to the American people, we want to give massive amounts of money, hundreds of billions of dollars to illegal aliens for their health care, while Americans are struggling to pay their health care bills. That was their initial foray into this negotiation. We thought it was absurd. We told them it was absurd, and now they come in here saying that if you don't give us everything that we want, we're going to shut down the government. We think that's preposterous. We think it's totally unacceptable, and we think the American people are going to suffer because these guys won't do the right thing. Now, I want to make one final point here. You will hear a lot from Senate Democrats, from House Democrats about the fact that American health care policy is broken. Well, we know that American health care policy is broken. We've been trying to fix it for the eight months that we've been in office. But every single thing that they accuse about being broken about American health care is policy the Democrats have supported for the past decade. So if they want to talk about how to fix American health care policy, let's do it. The Speaker would love to do it. The Senate Majority Leader would love to do it. Let's work on it together, but let's do it in the context of an open government that's providing essential services to the American people. That's all that we're proposing to do, and the fact that they refuse to do that shows how unreasonable their position is. I think we're headed to a shutdown because the Democrats won't do the right thing.
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Now, of course, that was yesterday, and yes, the shutdown did start at midnight last night. The Vice President made perfectly good sense to me. Under what scenario, and again, I'm trying to understand this, so help me understand how the Democrats think that it's okay to shut down the federal government in order to try to negotiate health care for illegals. How is that even possible? Who thinks that's right? You know, one of the things that's kind of interesting here, It's been years since the Congress has actually approved a budget like it should be done. I mean, there are 12 individual parts of the annual budget that fund 12 different parts of the government. It's been years... since all 12 of those were voted on and approved in a timely manner. That's why we have the continuing resolutions. I think this one would have been like the 13th CR that has been passed over the past number of years. I mean, they never passed all of the funding sections during the Joe Biden administration. And it was interesting to me last night, and we're going to get into this coming up, how... a Democrat senator who voted with the Republicans reminded them, hey folks, this is Joe Biden's budget that we're voting on. This continuing resolution, which doesn't change anything, is Joe Biden's budget. Why as Democrats are we objecting to this? Help me answer that. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Hope you'll join the conversation on this Wednesday edition of the Mike Gallagher Show. Every time
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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So it actually happened, if you've noticed this morning, or maybe you haven't noticed, the federal government is shut down. The members of Congress last night did not come to an agreement on how to go forward, and so everything's closed. Hope you weren't planning to go to a national park today, or maybe to the Library of Congress or the Smithsonian. Do you really care? if the federal government shut down? Because basically there's a choice here. There just weren't enough votes. Republicans did not have enough votes in the Senate to pass a continuing resolution. And we're going to get into that in just a minute because a Democrat senator who voted with the Republicans yesterday pointed out to his colleagues, this is Joe Biden's budget, folks. This continuing resolution is made up of budget items that the Democrats have voted on over the last four years during the Joe Biden administration. It's a clean, continuing resolution, which means Republicans haven't added or changed anything to it. It's just a matter of keeping the government funded on a temporary basis. But no, the Democrats, they, as Speaker Mike Johnson said of Schumer, selfishly used this opportunity to create a lot of drama, a lot of chaos over shutting the federal government down because they're upset that the big, beautiful bill back in the spring cut out funding for health insurance, health care for illegals. So you tell me, do we not call the Democrats out for shutting down the government because they think that illegals should get health care? Is that not a magnet just to attract more people coming into the country illegally? So let's kind of dive in here with what happened yesterday. Last night, I guess I should say. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453, of course. I want to get your take on it, too. And primarily my question to you is, does it affect you? When you woke up this morning and the government was shut down, did your life change? Anything. Did anything change for you today? Unless, of course, you might have been on vacation and you were going to go to one of these national parks or something. We'll get into that in just a minute. But President Donald Trump yesterday said that basically he doesn't want the government to shut down, but that this could potentially be an opportunity to do some things that he can do in a shutdown that he would not have been able to do otherwise. This is cut number one.
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They are shutting it down. We're not shutting it down. We don't want it to shut down because we have the greatest period of time ever. I told you we have 17 trillion dollars being invested. So the last person that wants to shut down is us. Now, with that being said, we can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible by them, like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like. And, you know, you all know Russell Vogt. He's become very popular recently because he can trim the budget to a level that you couldn't do any other way. So they're taking a risk by having a shutdown because because of the shutdown, we can do things medically and other ways, including benefits. We can cut costs. Large numbers of people. We don't want to do that, but we don't want fraud, waste and abuse. And, you know, we're cutting that. But they want to have illegal aliens come into our country and get massive health care at the cost to everybody else. And we don't have it. And that's that's I would say the number one reason that they want to strike is to get illegal immigrants health care. And, you know, Gavin Newsom wants that, too, in California. And it's destroying California. We can't have that. We're not going to let it happen.
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Wow. The president's right. The Democrats, in shutting down the federal government, may have wished that they had kept it open. Because I got a feeling that Donald Trump is going to seize the moment and is going to take this opportunity to cut some of the federal employees that he had been wanting to cut anyway, but had not been able to. Speaker Johnson, in talking about how we got here, and let's review that real quickly. House Republicans passed the continuing resolution, or the CR as it's known, a clean CR, in that no changes were made. It was just to keep the government open at the present funding levels. Again, Joe Biden levels. They passed this two weeks ago. It was a simple, short-term measure that would get us through November the 21st. Shouldn't have been any drama. But no, Chuck Schumer comes along, and Chuck Schumer wants to try to make a point. Now, I honestly don't know what it is he's trying to accomplish here. But Speaker Mike Johnson said yesterday that Schumer is very selfishly bringing the government to a shutdown. This is cut number three.
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Chuck Schumer has made the decision unilaterally. He's the leader of the Democrats in the Senate to keep the government shut down for his own personal reasons. It is extremely selfish and stunning to me that he is willing to do that. There's no way out of the trap. We didn't put partisan provisions in the CR. We could have. I could have loaded that up with all of our partisan policy preferences, but I didn't because we're operating in good faith.
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Now, of course, Schumer has a different take on it. Schumer, in cut number six, says that it's the GOP's fault.
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We see now Republicans are plunging America into a shutdown, rejecting bipartisan talks, pushing a partisan bill, and risking America's health care, worst of all. A few moments ago, Republicans once again rejected Democrats' proposals to avoid a shutdown, fix health care premiums, and spare Americans the calamity of skyrocketing through the roof health care costs.
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Now, basically, what Chuck Schumer wants is to put health care back into the budget for illegals. It was taken out in the one big beautiful bill back in the spring. Do you think Chuck Schumer and the Democrats really want to possibly eliminate any chance of victory for them next year in the midterms? by going down this path, by pushing health care for illegals. There's a poll out, and the numbers are astronomical as far as the number of Americans who say that health care should not be provided and that the government should not be closed down because of that issue. Chuck Schumer doesn't have a leg to stand on, even among his Democrats. Coming up, one Democrat senator voted with two other democrat senators with the gop and he says it's very simple that they just need to remember that this is joe biden's budget that they're voting on they have voted on it for the past four years that and your phone call is coming up 800-655-MIKE 800-655-6453 i'm joey hudson in for mike today
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Continuing the Mike Gallagher Show on the Salem News Channel and the Salem Radio Network, I'm Joey Hudson in for Mike. Hope you'll join the conversation today. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. You can email me directly, joey, at joeyhudson.com. Portions of today's show made possible by conservatives for lower health care costs. President Trump is doing what no other president has done before, holding big pharma accountable for ripping off the American people. But Big Pharma, as you can imagine, an army of drug company lobbyists are working overtime to keep Americans stuck paying the highest prescription drug prices literally in the world. Big Pharma has already hiked prices on hundreds of prescription drugs so far this year, while they continue to shower us with billions of dollars in misleading ads, pushing sales of medications that we may not even need. And that's not all. Big Pharma continues to push big government mandates that would further stack the deck for big drug companies. But Pharma's goal in Washington, their goal is to escape any accountability for themselves and to undermine free market forces that stand in the way of big drug companies charging even more exorbitant and outrageous prices. Big Pharma wants to use government intrusion into the private health care market to boost their own profits at the expense of you, the American people and American businesses, who would pay the price. So join conservatives for lower health care costs in supporting these solutions and reject Big Pharma's self-serving agenda. Visit pharmawindfall.com, pharmawindfall.com. Join the fight to lower prescription drug prices. Let's go straight to the phones. John is waiting patiently in Pennsylvania. Welcome, John. You're on the Mike Gallagher Show. John, you with us? Okay, let's try Elizabeth, who's in Pennsylvania. Welcome, Elizabeth.
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Good morning. How are you?
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I'm wonderful. Hope you are.
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I am, too. So I said right now it's about time that Madeline Dean kept her Pennsylvania in a sane neighborhood where we don't have children writing on their driveways, I am gay. Okay. Now, I never saw that on any driveway when I was growing up, and I never – this is the first time as a senior citizen I ever saw any type of writing like that on his parents' driveway.
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Well, you know – We live in different times for sure, Elizabeth. You know, people do things differently now than they did when I was growing up and I'm sure when you were growing up. James is in Brownville, Texas. Welcome, James.
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Yeah, thank you for taking my call. I think what's going on with Chuck Schumer and the Democrats right now, not in the Senate, two things. He is selfishly getting way out in left field. So they won't have an opponent come up in the primaries with AOC. So he's putting us through this for his own selfish reelection. And the second thing, senators, I think, can do goofy things like this because they've got six-year terms. And if you've got a couple years to make up for your idiocy in October of 2025, they hope we'll forget it. And I hope we learn to stop forgetting some of these long-term things.
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Well, and that's a good point, James, because voters do have short memories. And United States senators are counting on that because you're right. It's hard to remember what someone's done over the past six years. Chuck Schumer, he's in quite the situation now. He's never been in this type of predicament with his own party. And he is. He's out there on a limb thinking, okay, I'm going to fight. the Republicans, because I think that's what my party wants me to do. But I'm not so sure, James, and help me out here, I'm not so sure that the average Democrat in Texas, in Pennsylvania, in South Carolina, that even the average Democrat wants to see illegals provided with free health care. Do you?
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Oh, I wish that they wouldn't think that, but I think most Democrats, even the average ones, are so busy hating anything Trump wants to do that they'd sell the farm just to not get something Trump wants done.
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Yeah, well, you're right there. I mean, Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well, and it's spreading within the Democrat Party. You'd think the party that gave us the COVID vaccine that they'd come up with a vaccine that would help them out with that, wouldn't you? Hey, James, appreciate your phone call. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. You know, one of the things I've never understood about this shutdown is how the essential workers will have to go to work, they just won't be paid. Not now. Eventually they'll get paid. The non-essential workers stay home. U.S. members of the House and the United States Senate, they need to share in the pain. And a congressman from my home state of South Carolina, Representative Ralph Norman, he's from the 5th District of South Carolina, says that as we officially start the shutdown, that it's time that Congress shares in the pain, the pain that so many Americans will suffer, those who are federal employees. Again, most Americans probably won't even notice it. Representative Norman says that he's reintroducing a constitutional amendment that would dock lawmakers' pay any time the government shuts down. And he's not talking about just suspending it. He's talking about taking it away. They would not be paid in the future when the government opens back up. He said in a statement, during shutdowns, federal workers are told to do more with less. Meanwhile, Congress still cashes paychecks. That's wrong, and you're right, Congressman, that is wrong. He's right. Why would lawmakers get paid while our troops, federal law enforcement, rank-and-file workers in the IRS, in the Social Security Department, and a lot of these agencies who are just there doing their job every day— and yet they're not going to be paid. Norman's amendment is very simple. It says that no pay for members of Congress during any period when there's a lapse in government funding will take place. No salary. Here's the key. No back pay. No exceptions. That's how it should be, shouldn't it? If federal workers are not being paid, And again, in most cases, it's just a suspension of their payment. They'll eventually be paid. But Congress is the one who's closed it down. So why should they be paid ever lose that money? And according to some reports, he's got some support from other conservative members of Congress. Bob Latta of Ohio, Jack Bergman of Michigan, Eli Crane of Arizona, Corey Mills of Florida, Dusty Johnson of South Dakota, John Joyce of Pennsylvania, and I understand this morning more have added their name to the list. The resolution reads, a representative or senator may not receive compensation with respect to any period during which a government shutdown is in effect. You agree with this? 800-655-6453. Back to the phones. Ralph is in North Carolina. Welcome, Ralph.
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Yeah, thank you. And I don't want to go against your theme today, but yesterday I had the city knock on the door. I'm living in a trailer between my house, which got ruined in Helena. And I asked him about Trump's permitless rebuild. And they couldn't give me an answer, and I just wanted to know where that stood right now.
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Well, I can't tell you exactly. I'll look into that. But here's what I do know about permits is they're largely... at the local level. Your county and your cities determine the permits. Now, if there are federal permits involved, the Trump administration has been very successful in trying to eliminate a lot of the federal permits for roads and things like that. And that's one of the things that the President talked about yesterday when he talked about there are things that he can do in a shutdown that he can't do otherwise. And at the top of that list were some of the rules and regulations that he wants to eliminate, hasn't been able to because Congress has to do it, he can do it in a shutdown. And I think you're going to see some of that as well. 800-655-6453, your phone calls are welcome, as are your comments on the MyPillow text line. Just send me a quick note. And, by the way, always use promo code MikeG when you go to MyPillow.com. And you place those orders. And boy, does Mike Lindell have some great deals for you. The MyPillow six-pack bath towel sets are back in stock. These are the best towels, the most comfortable towels, and the most absorbent towels you will ever own. I guarantee it. So does Mike Lindell. I love these towels. Their proprietary technology makes them extremely absorbent. I've paid a lot of money in the past for towels that weren't this soft and weren't this absorbent. And, man, they're amazing. And, look, he's got a great deal on them. Mike Lindell, of course, he appreciates your support. Radio listeners like you have been able to keep this great American company in business. The regular price is $69.98 for the set. It comes with two bath towels, two hand towels, two washcloths. $69.98, but wait. When you use promo code MikeG at MyPillow.com or call 800-928-6034, you're going to get them for $39.98. Just use promo code MikeG, and while you're there, shop at some of the other things. You know it's not too early to go ahead and start shopping for Christmas gifts, and Mike Lindell has a lot of great things there. The limited edition MyPillows Queens are only $17.98, Kings $19.98, but you've got to use promo code MikeG. Joey Hudson in for Mike, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. You can email me directly, joey at joeyhudson.com. Mike Gallagher. Joey Hudson, wow, look at that. Those of you watching on the Salem News Channel, you're seeing the Greenville Zoo and our giraffe. That's kind of cool. You can watch us on the Salem News Channel every day on outlets like Samsung TV+. Just wherever you watch streaming, you can get the Salem News Channel. And, of course, I love for you listening on the Salem Radio Network as well. I've got to get to this real quick. The day has just been so busy. You'd think that after all these years that Hillary Clinton might have been able to read the room. She would have learned that talent of reading the room. Last week on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Hillary delivered one of the most divisive and tone-deaf comments I've ever heard her mention. And especially at a time when the country is grieving still, mourning the loss of the assassination of my colleague, Charlie Kirk, whose faith was an important part of his life. His patriotism was an important part of his life as well. When Hillary talked about certain men, I want you to listen to this. Here's Hillary.
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The idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, you know, let's say it, white men of a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point of view, a certain ideology. It's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for. And we were on the path toward that. I mean, imperfectly, lots of bumps along the way. But I agree with you. We were on the right trajectory.
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Yeah, there were a lot of bumps there, Hillary, a lot of bumps on the way. And the American people last November resoundingly said, we don't want to be on this path. It's the wrong path. But think about this for a minute. Let's just pause here and think about what she said. White men of a certain religion. We all know who she's referring to. She's referring to people like me, many of you. And again, at a moment when we need to be talking about unity, at a moment when we're mourning the death of one of the most prominent Christian conservative voices in our time, and she decides to fan the flames. She wants to divide people, suggesting that white Christian men, and that's what she's talking about, white Christian men are somehow damaging our country. The backlash came pretty quickly. Social media responded. One person wrote, These people have no intention of turning down the temperature. No, they're not. They don't want unity. They don't want Republicans and Democrats to work together for the betterment of our country. They like the division. That's why Chuck Schumer has us in a shutdown right now. Another wrote, this constant drumbeat against white Christian men is dehumanizing and dangerous. And they're right. This kind of rhetoric from Hillary and anybody else is reckless anytime, but particularly right now. when you have probably some troubled young man out there thinking about how the assassin was able to take Charlie Kirk out and how there's some white Christian man he'd like to do the same to. And Hillary seems to be encouraging him to do so. It's hypocritical. And it's just downright dangerous for Hillary and others to talk like this, to have that perspective. that Christian white men is the problem of our country? Christian white men were the foundation of our country, our founding fathers. And let's be honest, Hillary, she has a long history of this, let's just call it elitist contempt. Remember the basket of deplorables comment that she made? Now, years later, she's painting millions of Americans, hardworking fathers, veterans, churchgoers, small business owners as somehow the villains in her worldview. That's why Hillary Clinton never made it to the Oval Office. And I don't know why these networks keep putting her on. That's the reason Hillary Clinton should not have even been on MSNBC. Surely they have standards too, right? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Email me directly, joey at joeyhudson.com. Love to hear your comments. I'm an off-base there. Send me a text on the MyPillow message line. By the way, always go to, when you go to MyPillow.com, use promo code MikeG. Mike Lindell has the six-pack bath towel sets back in stock, and, boy, they're amazing. The proprietary technology makes these sheets extremely absorbent, yet still they provide that soft feel that you want from a towel. I promise you, and I guarantee you, these will be the best towels you've ever had. Mike Lindell guarantees them as well. The set comes with two bath towels, two hand towels, two washcloths. Regular price is $69.98, but all you have to do is use promo code MikeG when you go to MyPillow.com or call 800-928-6034. Throw Mike's name around. Mike G is going to get you a price of $39.98. Now think about that.
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Hey, Joey. Good morning. I just wanted to call and comment on the question that you had. Why would Chuck Schumer, why would any Democrat or liberal even want to give free health care to illegal immigrants? And the more I thought about that, I have to tell myself, look, they are trying to encourage and incentivize illegal immigration. Why would they do that? Because they're trying to gain votes in upcoming elections. That's always been part of their agenda. And so there's multiple factors here. Also, like you said, they're against anything that Trump is saying. And they're doing this in the... They're trying to paint a picture that they're doing this in the name of love and kindness and... and gracious, and that they're such wonderful people. But behind the scenes, there's a narrative there, and they are trying to cause division because when there's division within the United States, then they have an opportunity to push their liberal agenda, their socialist agenda, because we would be in the midst of chaos. So I think that there's underlying reasons there for why they would be trying to do this.
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David, they just don't love our country, do they?
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No, they're in it for themselves.
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Yeah, they just don't care what happens to our country, and they're willing to pull these stunts at whatever cost to try to make Donald Trump look bad. 800-655-6453, one line open for you. Did you happen to see that this is classic Trump? Did you happen to see that when he had Chuck Schumer, and I think Hakeem Jeffries was with him as well in the Oval Office yesterday, he had some Trump 2028 caps right on the front of his desk. So they had to sit there and look at these Trump 2028 caps as they're talking to the president. Who else can do that? Donald Trump. That's why he stands up to these people. He's not going to just bow down and accept what they want to happen just because they're shutting the government down. Thanks to the team, Eric and Christian and Alex and Tracy. I'm back again tomorrow. Hope you have a wonderful day. More of the Mike Gallagher Show coming up.

In this episode of The Flatline, Rick Hughes invites listeners to reflect on life’s path from 'rust to dust.' As age advances and the inevitability of life’s end looms large, Rick brings clarity to the spiritual journey, encouraging the audience to remain steadfast in their faith. Learn about redeeming the precious days given, leveraging wisdom that comes with age, and embracing God’s power that renews the spirit daily. Tune in to understand that although our bodies may age, our souls remain eternally vibrant.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I am your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick with me. It'll just be short time, 30 minutes maybe. some motivation, some inspiration, some education, and always without manipulation. No con games, no asking for money, no selling any products, not asking you to join up. We just would like for you to listen. Listen as we seek to verify and identify the plan of God for your life. And if I'm able to do that, then you have the freedom and the privacy to orient and adjust to the plan. I love getting the letters I've been getting recently of people that are learning and growing and being challenged. So many people are saying, I didn't realize these things before, and now I'm beginning to see it, and how can I continue to grow? If God's been working in your life, don't hesitate to send me a letter. Drop me an email to rick at rickhughesministries.org, rick at rickhughesministries.org. I love to hear from you. Thank you so much for letting me know what's going on in your life. We broadcast from Maine to California every Sunday morning, same time, same place. All our material that we offer through our website, rickhughesministries.org, is free, no charge whatsoever. We hope you'll take advantage of that and that you'll stick with us. Today I want to talk to you about a subject that might be important. I think it's a little important. I'd like to talk to you about going from rust to dust. From rust, R-U-S-T, to dust, D-U-S-T. That's what many of us are doing right now. We're going from rust to dust. Like a lot of you that listen weekly to this show, the flat line. And if you're listening, uh, not a lot of teenagers listening, I promise you that most of you that listen are getting on up there, maybe 50 and above some a little bit younger, but, uh, age is beginning to creep up on you. You know what I mean? You see it. It's almost impossible to realize that maybe now you're in the final lap of the race. I'd be willing to bet that you like me are wondering where all the years went. Maybe you all of a sudden look in the mirror and you don't recognize the person that you see. You don't feel older, but you certainly look older. Fortunately, myself, I kept good records and good journals so I can look back and actually see what I did, when I did it, where I was when I did it. But unfortunately, none of us can look forward. We just don't know how much time we actually have left. Because there are only two ways to get out of this sin-plagued planet, and neither of those involve your choice. It's either the exit resurrection, which is the rapture, or your physical death. That's the only two ways you get off this planet, the exit resurrection called the rapture or your physical death. Now, I don't know about you, but I would personally rather burn out than rust out. Because I don't think any Christian should finish life like a rusted automobile sitting in a junkyard just waiting to be crushed into scrap. And yet sometimes that's what happens as we get older, we rust out. We just give up. We just lay down and quit. We forget that there's still a plan for our lives. And regardless of your age, if you're 70, if you're 80, even 90, there's still a plan for your life. God left you here for a reason. And that's what we're going to talk about this morning. So Romans 14, eight is where we start. For if we live, we live to the Lord. And if we die, we die to the Lord. So then whether we live or whether we die, we belong to the Lord. That's the first thing every Christian has to understand. God's plan for your life is gonna go on. Whether you live or whether you die, it doesn't make any difference. Right now, you're still alive. You're still occupying room. You have not been called to the home office, not yet. You may get that call, but so far you have not been called to the home office, which you and I know to be heaven. So when you do get to heaven, the last thing you want to get on your report card is an F, correct? You don't want Fs on your report card. That's wrong. You do want Fs. There are three Fs you want on your report card when you get to heaven. I'm going to show them to you right now. The three Fs we all want when we get to heaven. This is what the Apostle Paul stated in his letter to Timothy in 2 Timothy 4, 6 through 7. He said, for I'm now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought, there's the first F, the good fight. I have finished, that's the second F, I finished the race, and I kept the faith, there's the third F. So here it is. I'm now ready to be offered. In the time of my departures at hand, I have fought the good fight. I finished the race. I kept the faith. This is the testimony of Paul the Apostle, the three Fs, fought, finished, and faith. Fought is an interesting word, agonizomai. Agonizomai is a Greek word, and it means to contend against satanic opposition. Do not forget that you're in a war. This is an angelic conflict going on, and you are in a war spiritually speaking. Satan does not want to go to the lake of fire. He would like to exonerate himself and be relieved from that responsibility, but he cannot. But he will try to use you to nullify the plan of God if he can. So there is a war going on, an invisible war called the angelic conflict. And you are told to armor up, suit up in Ephesians 6, put on the armor of God so you can stand against the strategy of the devil. He has a strategy in regards to you. We understand that. He knows your strengths and he knows your weaknesses. He knows what in the world can lure you and what in your flesh can destroy you. And if he can tempt you in those areas, he'll do that. So Paul said, look, I have fought the good fight. What does that mean? It means he's been faithful. He said, I fought the good fight. I finished the race. There it is. I fought the good fight. I finished the race, the second F. Teleo, teleo is the Greek word. It means I brought my mission to an end. I accomplished my mission. I did that which I set out to do. And then he said these words, I have kept the faith. The Greek word pistis, P-I-S-T-I-S, faith. Faith and believe, one's a noun, one's a verb. Pistis and pistuo, faith. He's been faithful. He has a lot of fidelity. He did not forsake the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. He stood firm. He fought the fight. He finished the race. He kept the faith. This must be your testimony and my testimony as well. We must continue to fight the good fight. We must continue to finish the race and not quit, not rust out. And we must keep the faith. Paul wrote these words to his young friend Timothy, the one that was like a son to him in 1 Timothy 1-2. He wrote to Timothy, my own son in the faith. Timothy was now the pastor of the church at Ephesus. And when Paul wrote this, he was actually under arrest for his testimony and he was condemned to be executed by the Roman emperor Nero. And in fact, he was executed around 67 AD by beheading But knowing that his time on earth was about to be ended, he looked back in confidence. He knew he did not fail his task. He knew he had completed his race. You and I might not know exactly when that time is going to come for us, but it's going to come. There's no way around it. We probably are not going to be beheaded like Paul was by Nero, but we're going to die. And when that comes, we want to look back and say, I did my job. I fought the good fight, I finished my race, and I kept the faith. In his letter to the church at Philippi, Paul wrote these words. Listen carefully. One thing I do is forgetting what's behind me, that's my failures, reaching forth unto those things which are before me. And then he said the famous words, I press towards the mark of the prize for the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. That's his motivation. What about you? Don't look back. Don't look at your failures. Don't look at your flaws. Just keep looking forward. Those 10 problem-solving devices are critical for you at this time in your life. There's never been a time in your life when it's more important for you to have a flat line in your soul than when you get to be older like we are, like I am. So we have to understand how to rebound and confess our sin, which we understand leads us to the filling of the Holy Spirit. We have to understand how to live by the faithless drill. We have to understand what it means to have grace orientation and biblical orientation. We should know by now what our personal sense of destiny was. We should be motivated to be faithful because of our personal love for God. And we demonstrate that faithfulness with our impersonal love for all mankind. This leads us to sharing the happiness of God with the world and occupation with Christ. Those are those 10 unique problem-solving devices. And I could teach many hours on each one of those. So it's important you remember that and understand that as long as we're still living, as long as we're still breathing, God has a purpose for us. This is the time your flood line is so very critical because Along with old age comes some physical difficulties. I mean, issues of health and disease threaten us every day. I mean, there's not a day that goes by that you don't hear someone with some disease, some cancer, some COVID, some heart problem. You know, our hearing goes. That's the first thing that goes. Our eyes go. Our balance goes. Our strength goes. You name it, and the older folks have it. But this just means that you have more opportunities to trust God and utilize his marvelous provisions for you because you are to fight the good fight. You are to finish the race and you are to keep the faith. Here's something you might not realize. Your body may age, your body may get old, but inside your body is a soul, S-O-U-L, your soul, and it will be forever young. Your soul never gets old. God never intended you to live in this body, Forever, a sin-infected body, infected with Adam's original sin, you've got to get a new body, a resurrection body, and your soul will be in that body. And your soul is your mentality, your volition, your consciousness, your self-consciousness. It does not get old, never gets old. That's why when you look in the mirror, you may shock yourself and say, gee, I look old, but I don't feel old, because your soul doesn't age. So 2 Corinthians 4.16, therefore we do not lose heart. We're not discouraged, he said. Listen carefully to this verse, 2 Corinthians 4.16. We do not lose heart, though outwardly we are wasting away. Yet inwardly, we are being renewed day by day. Every day, the word of God gives you a new life. Every day, the Holy Spirit empowers you. Every day, you have another opportunity to lift up the Lord Jesus Christ and represent him to your friends. So yes, we are wasting away outwardly, but inwardly, we are being renewed every day. If you use the filling of the Holy Spirit, and if you use the resources that God's word gives you, you will be guaranteed to be strong, I promise you. Even though your body may be weak, Isaiah 40, 29, he gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. You hear that? He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. That comes through the filling of the Holy Spirit. That comes through the residence of the word of God in your soul that empowers you, that strengthens you, encourages you, gives you hope and confidence. In Isaiah 46.4, listen again. Isaiah 46.4, even to your old age and gray hairs, I am he. I am he who will sustain you. I have made you and will carry you. I will sustain you and I will rescue you. What a marvelous promise for us from our Father. even to our old age and our gray hair. I'm he, I will sustain you. I made you, I will carry you, I will rescue you. If you've taken advantage of God's word and grown spiritually as I pray you have, then you will have assets that young people don't have. You may be 70, you may be 80, you may be 60, but if you've grown spiritually, these assets are incredible. Listen to what Job said in 12.12. Is not wisdom found among the aged? Does not long life bring understanding? Wisdom is a wonderful thing. If you read Proverbs chapter one and two and three, you'll find that wisdom cries out looking for someone to listen. Wisdom is actually the word of God cycled into your soul, streaming into your right lobe or your stream of consciousness where you can recall it and use it in your life. And wisdom gives you insight, discernment, and understanding. Wisdom, God's wisdom from his word, gives you insight, discernment, and understanding. You will understand things that other people don't. You will see things that other people don't see because you will see it through the lens of the word of God. So here's a principle for you. the believer, you and I, we are told to redeem what time we have left. Ephesians 5, 15, and 16, see then that we walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, redeeming the time because the days are evil. I know this verse applies to both old people and young people, but let's go over the verse. that see that you walk circumspectly. Walk is the Greek word peripateo. It means that you live your life. It's talking about a way to live your life. And he's saying you need to live your life circumspectly. Akribos, the Greek word akribos. And it means you must live your life accurately. Do you understand what this means? And do you understand why the apostle wrote it here? I mean, how would you like to come to full age facing death and then realize at that point in time that you messed up your whole life and you even damaged those who were associated with you. There is a perfect plan for all believers and a perfect provision for you to fulfill that plan. And it's for you to walk accurately, circumspectly. That's to learn the protocol plan of God and to live it and execute it in your life on a daily basis. And what did he say? Don't live like a fool. See that you walk circumspectly, not as fools. Asophos, the Greek word, asophos, and that's a stupid person. Proverbs 18.2, a fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind. In other words, only running his mouth, trying to tell you what a smart guy he is. He's stupid. He's a fool. So that's what Paul wrote here. You must walk circumspectly. Don't live like a fool, but live wise. Live wise. It's in the wisdom of God. Redeeming the time. Exgorazo. Exgorazo. Purchase the time. You can add days to your life by growing spiritually. Did you know that? If you grow spiritually, you will add days to your life. When you take in the word of God under the filling of the Holy Spirit and begin to replicate the life of Christ and to grow to be a mature believer, God will give you extra days. You don't believe that? Proverbs 3, 1 and 2. My son, do not forget my law, but let your heart keep my mandates for a length of days and a long life and peace they will give to you. There it is. Redeem the time, ex agrazzo. Purchase the time. Buy time with your spiritual life. And then he went on to say in that passage in Ephesians 5, see that you walk circumspectly, not as a fool, but as wise, redeeming the time because the days are evil. This refers to Satan's attempt to foil God's plan of redemption. You know, in good old USA, you, like me, may see evil days as a destruction of all morality, the destruction of all culture as we shift to a more open, progressive, guilt-ridden society. That's the road we're headed down right now. But that's not to concern me or you. We have a charge. We have a charge in our life, and I'm going to tell you what it is. This is your charge from God, Psalm 71, 18. Now also, when I am old and gray-headed, O God, do not forsake me until I declare your strength to this generation and your power to everyone who is to come. Until I declare your strength to this generation and your power to everyone who is to come. Declaring God's strength to his generation. The Hebrew words are oha. means the mighty power or his shoulder or his arms. This is a direct reference to the omnipotence of God, and that was demonstrated in the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the grave. No greater power could ever exist than to resurrect the Lord Jesus Christ from the grave. As a matter of fact, Ephesians 1.19 says, and what is the exceeding greatness of his power? towards us who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, which he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead, and seated him at the right hand in heavenly places far above all principality, of all power, above all might, above all dominion, that's the power of God, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the age that is to come. There's God's power, God's omnipotence in the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. Our job in this old age that we have is to declare his power and his strength. That's our job. And to declare the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ and to demonstrate fidelity to our Father who will also resurrect us the same way he resurrected Christ. Don't believe that? Listen to 1 Corinthians 15, verses 20 through 23. But now Christ is risen from the dead and has become the first fruit of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, that's Adam, by man also came the resurrection of the dead, that's Christ. For as in Adam all die, so as in Christ shall all be made alive. but each one in his own order, Christ the first fruit, and afterwards those who are Christ at his coming. So you don't stay in the grave forever. No, if you pass away, you're going to go to be face to face with the Father. And I don't know what kind of body you'll have, but I know you're going to get a resurrection body when Christ returns. I know that. But maybe in heaven we'll have some sort of interim body. I'm not sure. I don't know all the picture. but I know that we will not stay in the grave. We will be resurrected. So we, you and I, we cannot be distracted by any circumstances, whether it's our health, whether it's the politics in this nation. It's not our job to straighten people out politically. That's not our job to do that. It is our job to lift up the Lord Jesus Christ. So he said here again in this passage, When I'm old and gray-headed, do not forsake me until I declare your strength to this generation and your power to everyone who is to come, and your power. The Hebrew word for power means your strength and your might. That's our job, to declare his power and strength to this generation and the generations that come. How do we do that? When you are faithful to grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord Jesus Christ, you leave a faithful witness and you have a heritage impact on your nation. You have an impact in your family. You have an impact in time for the Lord Jesus Christ. You declare God's power by becoming a spiritually mature believer, living a life free of fear, free of worry, free of bitterness, free of antagonism, Free, free, that's a wonderful way to live. To have objective optimism and sharing the happiness of God, problem solving device number nine. That's the power of God for this day and for this time. And most people don't have that. They can look at you and see there is noticeably something different in your old age. Why are you not afraid? Why do you not worry about getting sick or having disease? And why do you, why do you have such an objective outlook in life? Cause you have the power of God living in you. The Holy spirit is in you. The word of God is in you and the Lord Jesus Christ lives in you because your body is his temple. Psalm 21.13 Be thou exalted, Lord, in thine own strength. and we will sing and praise your power. That's what we're supposed to do, declare his power to everyone that is to come. His plan is perfect. His power is unlimited. He has the power to save us, the power to deliver us, the power to provide everything that we need by means of the Holy Spirit and his word, which is alive and powerful, the Bible says. The word of God is alive and powerful. So we declare his power to everyone that is to come by declaring the word. When we live by the word, when we lift up the word, when we proclaim the word, even the word being the Lord Jesus Christ and the word being the written word, we are living by God's power. Even though we have a short time on earth, even though we will return to dust, God's perspective is a little different than ours. because his plan marches on eternally with or without our participation. Participation is in the Lord's plan and that the Lord requires of you. Yes, he does. But he always puts you in a position to fulfill the plan if you want to. That's your destiny. He has a plan for you. He has a life for you. He has a plan for you and what he wants you to do. But your perspective of time is finite. Because your life is governed by time. We orient to time. What time is it? Quarter of, half past, you know, an hour to go. We orient to time and we orient to time in history, 1915, 2022. God's viewpoint is always eternal. It's outside of time. There are no parameters in the history of man. Without parameters in the history of mankind, God doesn't have those things like we do. So when someone goes to heaven, the Bible says one day in heaven is like a thousand years on earth. You know, I always look at it as if someone died and went to heaven and maybe they've been dead 10 years. It might be like one minute. It's different. There's no time in heaven. There are no clocks in heaven. Time is here. And we live at that time. So in Psalm 90 verse 10, the days of our lives are 70 years. Listen carefully. If you made it past 70, you're doing good. The days of our lives are 70 years. And if by reason of strength they are 80, yet their boast is only labor and sorrow. For it is soon cut off and we all fly away. So God doesn't guarantee you 120 years. He will guarantee you at least 70 if you take care of yourself. So what's your motivation to fulfill the charge that God gave you? What is your motivation for you to fulfill the charge that God gave you, that you are to declare his strength to this generation and his power to everyone is to come? Well, your motivation is 1 John 5, 3. This is the love of God that we keep His mandates, and His mandates are not a burden. We've got to have that personal love for God. That's your motivation. This is one of the problems in Revelation 2, one through four, to the angel of the church at Ephesus. John wrote these sayings, says he who holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks. I know your works, I know your labor, I know your patience, that you can't bear those that are evil. You've tested those who say they're apostles and are not, and you have found them liars, and you have persevered and had patience, and you have labored for my name's sake and have not become weary. Nevertheless, I have a problem. You left your first love. It's very possible that you have left your first love, the love for the Lord Jesus Christ, personal love for God. It's important that you remember that. Personal love for God is problem-solving advice number seven, occupation with Christ, problem-solving advice number 10. So if you allow the distraction of old age to turn you away from your mission, you will fail in the last stage of your life. and none of us want that. The only way you're gonna be able to fulfill your mission, declare His power and His strength to those to come is to be motivated by your love for your Savior. God so loved you, we love Him because He first loved us, 1 John said, that's reciprocal love. I hope this has meant something. I hope it's encouraged you and challenged you, and I hope you're listening. because it's been my honor to give you From Rust to Dust. Next week, we'll be back, same time, same place. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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In today's episode, we dissect the recent call for a Netflix boycott led by Elon Musk, sparked by controversial content in children's programming. We delve into how these programs, often marked as suitable for young audiences, sneak in adult themes not mentioned in parental guidelines. Amidst ongoing debates, we unpack the potential motives behind content creation and discuss the societal impacts on young viewers while encouraging parents to be more vigilant about the media their children consume.
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All right. I just saw Cain tell a dude that he needs Midol on social media. Just saw that one. It's a nice, nice comeback. All right. So a Florida attorney was convicted of bringing cocaine into a Florida jail. It's almost like he should have known that that was illegal. If only he had the education to know. that that was illegal. 60-year-old David Castles was convicted of one count possession of cocaine, count of felony, introduction of contraband into a county detention facility. Why are his glasses crooked? On his mugshot. It's bothering me really badly. It's very asymmetric. In the verdict, the judge sentenced him to a year in jail, three years of probation, 300 hours of community service. He has to go through substance abuse things, stuff like that. But that's just one of the dumbest cell phones. So much of this is like self-owning, people self-owning. This one guy got 17 and a half years because he led a cocaine trafficking network from Puerto Rico to New York. That's also a big bad no-no. So I'm surprised New York did anything about it, right? But it was a cocaine distribution network that spanned from Puerto Rico to upstate New York, U.S. Attorney's Office. They handed this dude, a 49-year-old dude from Lady Lake, Florida, 17 and a half years in prison. He was also involved in money laundering, distribution, all kinds of bad stuff. That's not something that, you know, there's a lot of the cocaine distribution happening here. This, Gulf Coast News, a Florida man was accused of street racing. at 124 miles per hour. And when the police got him, his excuse was that, quote, I have to use the bathroom. That's why he went 124 miles per hour at 3 a.m. on a Sunday, you see, in Lee County, Florida. It was a late night street race. And they're still searching for the motorcyclist. He was racing a motorcycle. This is how people get killed. The Toyota Camry this guy was racing. If you were wondering if it was a Camry, you are correct. A Toyota Camry and motorcycle stopped side by side at a traffic light. They were able to get it on some CCT stuff from other businesses and that. But yeah, they clocked him at going 124. The motorcycle hit more than 140. When they stopped him, he said, I had to use the bathroom really badly. I had to use the bathroom bad is what he said. The Camry driver did not have a license. And the police were like, well, that's a red flag, number one. And number two, that it was happening at three in the morning. That's also another red flag. And then Sheriff J.D. Grud, he well, no, Sheriff Grady Judd said a Florida man who is a retired deputy insulted workers at McDonald's drive through with a child in the front seat. So he drove through. He was competitive towards McDonald's workers. And he had like an unstrained kid, 18 month old in the front seat. We'll have more on that tomorrow. all tailored to your climate. So landscaping feels stress-free. Plus their alive and thrive guarantee means that your plants arrive ready to grow. No more loading up a dirty car or wandering around a nursery with limited options. And grown to last by American farmers, all on American soil. Whether you want privacy, shade, or natural beauty, fall is the time to plant. And with fast shipping, expert support, and top quality plants, Fast Growing Trees makes it happen. Get up to 50% off of select plants at fastgrowingtrees.com. Use code DANA at checkout for an extra 15% off of your first purchase. Visit fastgrowingtrees.com and use code DANA for an extra 15% off. Offer valid for a limited time and terms apply.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of the second hour. So Elon Musk has called for a Netflix boycott. Well, he said he was boycotting. Actually, he goes, cancel Netflix for the healthier kids. And he cites this show called Dead End Paranormal Park. It's a show on Netflix that has, I mean, it's a pretty... Well, I mean, they're promoting trans stuff to kids. Now, the show is advertised for young kids, right? But it's rated PG, but it's still advertised for young kids. And this guy, I think people found it. I don't know because it's not even in production anymore. It's an older show. And one of the, so Lorraine made the point that she thinks people found it because the creator of the show that who wrote the comic on which the show is based was mocking Charlie Kirk's murder. And I think that that's kind of, and I tend to agree that I think that's maybe how people found it. And so now everyone saw the show and this is like an example. of the content for this program. And because we don't want to get pulled from YouTube, we can play the audio and show you the screen cap. But that's pretty much it. But this is like the scene. For example, this is cut 27 Park.
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It's, it's me. I'm trans, Norma. And everyone at school knows. And everyone at home knows. And being here, it's like a whole new place. I can just be Barney. And I can choose if and when I tell people. I've never been happier. And that's saying something when I spent today chased by terrifying zombie mascots. Pugsley reminded me how important it is to live your life without apology. So I think I gotta give living here a shot. Don't you?
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You don't need my permission. I just wouldn't want Courtney as a roommate.
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So the guy who plays Barney is also apparently trans. Yeah. And so Musk thought was like, oh, yeah, we got to, you know, cancel it for to protect your kids. The guy who Hamish Steele, who created the. The comic on which the show is based was the guy who was, you know, apparently he was making fun of Charlie Kirk being assassinated. And the show got canceled in 2023, but it's still on Netflix, like it's archived on Netflix. And it's supposed to be PG. I don't know. I mean, it seems when you they're like, oh, it's not really for kids. It's for PG. But then you see the content. It's being marketed towards kids. I'm not even going to take that from these people who are like, oh, guns are marketed towards kids. No, they're not. But this clearly is. This absolutely is. And it hasn't been a production for like over two years, but it's like I said, it's still up on Netflix. So still the guy who created the comic that the show's based on, he made fun of Charlie Kirk being murdered and said some really nasty stuff online, like tons of stuff. And then so now Musk, it has Musk's attention and he's gone after it as well. And then he kind of flirted around with the idea of creating a Netflix like entity and competing with Netflix. Right. But, I mean, the guy literally celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk. He absolutely did. He celebrated his murder and made fun of it and all this other stuff. So, I don't know. I've never seen it. It was canceled after the second season was released in October of 2022. And the, again, the Kirk stuff, his comments, and then plus the Barney Trans character just catapulted it now into the news. I just don't even know why anybody would watch this. People got to pay, parents also need to pay attention to this stuff. There's almost no... I would not set my kids in front of any new animation unless it was like anime. I would not put them in front of any non. I'm not kidding you. If it's not made in Japan, if it's not made even in South Korea, if it's not anime or if it's not old Warner Brothers, I would not allow my kid to watch it at all. No joke. I don't even know. And my kids, when my kids were younger, we really, really watched what they watched. And they could watch, I mean, you know, obviously get your chores done, blah, blah, blah. But they could watch, you know, the stuff that we approved for them to watch. And they watched old Warner Brothers. They watched VeggieTales, things like that. But this new stuff, because it's so... Subversive. You might watch a couple of episodes of something and then like in the third episode, boom, here's a character that's talking about trans or talking about very, very adult subjects in what is clearly children's programming. And there's no indication in any of the descriptions for parents ahead of time. So you've got to be very, very careful as to what you allow your kids to watch. I'm not kidding. I would not allow my kids to watch anything unless it was a pre-approved, pre-really sussed out selection that we had picked for them. probably even more, it would be more controlled than I was with my kids when they were little. You would have to be, because there's so much stuff out there. And there are so many people with political agendas. Used to, when people would create content like children's programming, it would be programming that the kids would find entertaining. Now, it is the adults that want to massage their egos by presenting what they think kids should believe to kids. It's not about servicing the kids anymore. It's about servicing the ego of the creator. And they're usually left-leaning. So have you ever seen the show, Cain, the dead and paranormal thing? Paranorman almost went too far for me towards the end. It was a good movie, Paranorman. And at the very end, boom, they hit you in the face with alphabet stuff that's way above a kid's pay grade.
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Yeah, I mean, you have to think about how these things get created. There's a lot of intention behind their creation because you got to be able to generate the funding in order to make it even happen. So you got to sell your idea. Now, did they sell them on this idea in the beginning or did they bait and switch them? That's something that I'd like to find out. But this was all done with intention. Oh, completely. And they all are done that way.
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So kind of in this, do you guys remember Imane Keefe, Khalif? The boxer who wanted to compete as a woman and got kicked out. Remember this guy? Iman Khalif from Algeria rose to global prominence and they call him a her, but man, it is such a dude looking dude. So this image of this guy. So now he got kicked out of the boxing thing. So he's not in the boxing stuff anymore. And by the way, Juan says that he canceled his Netflix account over a year ago. Good for Juan. He's like, there's no point in watching this garbage. Our partners that help bring you this hour, our friends at Caltech, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. This is a shotgun to have. I think it was this one that was in one of the WIC films. I was actually trying to remember because I know that they had, or maybe it was a KSG, but this is the KS7. It's awesome. Absolutely awesome. It's the next evolution in home defense and innovation. And the KS7 Gen 2, you got tons of upgrades on this. First off, you got five slot Picatinny style accessory rails. You can add vertical grips. You can add lights, you know, keep it flush and sleek if you want, whatever, however you want to do it. It's a smooth pump action for faster, cleaner cycling. You got enhanced durability, but it's ultra light. I mean, it's like 6.8 pounds unloaded. It's a compact bullpup design. So you got lots of maneuverability and tight spaces, ambidextrous downward shell ejection, a seven plus one capacity. So you have serious stopping power. It is a go-to for home defense. Range days, fun. I mean, if you're seasoned or if you're a first timer, The KS7 Gen 2 Defender is for you. And the Defender package ups the game as well. You got Vortex, Crossfire, Green Dot, Extended Butt Pad. You got the Magpul RVG Vertical Grip, all kinds of stuff. And you can get it classic Kel-Tec Black or as a part of the Defender series, totally kitted out and ready to rock. MSRP, $639. I know. It's performance within reach. It's from Kel-Tec. KS7 Gen 2. Everything is made right here in the U.S. of A. American materials, American workers, everything. Learn more at Kel-Tec Weapons dot com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C Weapons dot com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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They fear, according to Newsweek, that there are at least 20 fatalities in this major earthquake, 6.9 magnitude, that struck the Philippines. Powerful offshore quake with a 6.9 magnitude. It hit central Philippines late Tuesday, collapsed walls of houses and buildings. 20 fatalities at least. Many others injured, officials said. And it cut power across different provinces and sent residents fleeing into the streets in the dark. That's terrifying. So they're obviously trying to get everything under control there. That's terrifying. At night as well. I can't imagine like a tornadoes at night. No earthquakes at night. No, no thanks. Michigan confirms an alligator was spotted at Belle Isle Park in Detroit, Michigan. State Parks and Wildlife officials confirmed they're trying to figure out to do what to do about credible photographic evidence of an alligator at Belle Isle Park. Visitors alerted park workers to a potential alligator sighting, although the officials themselves did not visually confirm the presence of the gator. But they said they're coordinating a search of the area and determining next steps as a precaution. And they said that they were aware of social media rumors regarding a boa constrictor sighting, but there's no evidence that the boa... I mean, are they just going to start making stuff up? There's also a Bigfoot there. Or herd. Just think. This is wild. In a television interview... A man admits to killing and burying his parents during a television interview in their upstate New York home eight years ago. And then as he left the studio, he was arrested. The guy, Lorenz Krause, 53, it came a day after police said they recovered two bodies from a home in Albany as part of this investigation that found his parents dead. And they were still receiving apparently Social Security payments, despite the fact that no one saw or heard from them in years. So this guy contacted his local news outlet, right? He said for a half hour interview. And then he said that he mercy killed his parents because they were aging and becoming frail. And he goes, yes. And it was so quick. And he was obviously arrested right after he left. That's insane. Thieves steal a million dollars worth in craft whiskey from a Washington distillery. They made off with 12,000 bottles of craft whiskey in a rare U.S. liquor heist. And not only did they get about a million dollars worth of the product, they apparently also took about half... of the stock of a single malt distillers that they'd worked on for more than a decade to make. It's the Skagit Valley Sheriff's Office that's investigating, and whiskey aficionados are wondering where the Westland Distillery's first 10-year Gariana whiskey might turn up. And they don't know. That's kind of wild, right? I wonder if they're going to relabel them. They said the bottles of the Gariana are irreplaceable. And they said it's a pretty extraordinary situation. And it's going to be difficult to sell them. I would think that they would change the labels, wouldn't they? You think they would? But then, I don't know, you could get more knowing that they're that particular type of whiskey. So that's a catch-22 for a greedy thief, isn't it? That's kind of wild. And... Why are people talking about steroids turning dudes gay? So this Amin Khalif, let me set this up and then I'm going to tell you where it's going to go. So this dude who was a boxer, he got bounced out of boxing because he's a dude who wanted to compete as a female. And now he is the face of a beauty brand that is from Algeria. Now, Juan is showing you right now, the middle screen is the ad, okay? A beauty brand. A beauty brand.
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Hold on. If I'm the photographer, and by the way, I'm not a professional photographer.
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I swear to you guys, hands to sky, this is real.
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People watching on the screen right now at home, that's a guy who doesn't look happy. That's a man. Right.
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What is it for? Is it like for... uh how do they use that one of all the pictures they took is this the best photo right that they had i got i got a lot of questions about this is this the best i i don't know i'm very torn on this so the it's called bell nco i don't know how to say it's from uh it's algeria it's an algerian beauty brand And in the campaign, they said, well, he embodies strength. Well, they call him a she. And they go she, but it's a he. Embodies strength, resilience, and grace. It's a perfect reflection of what skin with attitude really means. So I guess it's like a foundation. This is a dude. He is the most dudest dude I think I have ever... She sounds hideous. Well, she's a guy, so... I've ever seen. But I just need to see the ad again. I'm sorry, Juan. I just want to see that ad one more time.
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Maybe he's born with it. Maybe it's... Maybe it's testicles. Maybe it's a penis.
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It's just... Excuse me, it's man. It is man. I'm just saying. Is that the best photo? Is that his smolder?
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Smolder?
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Ladies, are you buying a beauty brand from that? Are you going to see, I want to look like that man? Said no lady ever.
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All right, so we all know that marketing is a lot.
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That is a man's jaw, Cain. He can crack nuts with it.
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A lot of the marketing has to do with the visuals, right? So this guy doesn't look anything like a woman. And then he's holding up the product. And the product looks like it's some black label RX you get from Randall Drugs. Like, no one's going to be buying that. The packaging doesn't... Juan, put that up on the screen again. It's like, what is that? I don't even know. I don't even know.
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I'm not even a woman. Come buy my foundation.
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I'm just... He could sell razors for your face. But I'm not. Here's another reason why this ticks me off so bad. Dudes do not have the same skin as women. Dudes grow hair on their face. Women do not have the same skin texture. We don't have the same issues. We don't have the same hormones. We don't have the same concerns. A man cannot wear a makeup that will be suitable for a woman to wear. It is not possible. It's just not possible. You're ignoring the needs of females to cater to a guy who's playing dress up. And then you want to smear everybody as bigots who object to it, who object to being erased. He already tried to erase women in women's sports. And now he wants you to listen to him about ladies' makeup. This is actually, believe it or not, the most feminine photo that he has ever taken. Kane, if you don't believe me, Google his name and look at the images.
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I did, and you are right. And it looks like there was a lot of effort to make him look like a female.
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I mean, he looks like he hates the product.
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It just ain't working. Can't believe I'm selling this.
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What is he going to sell next? Tampons? Like, are you going to?
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Some Tampax. Imane Khalifa's Tampax.
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Where does it end? You know what I'm saying? Like, where does it end? I mean, it's a legit question.
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It should have ended a long time ago.
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But that is actually, I can't, that's like the most feminine photo I've ever seen of the dude. He's a dude. He's a dude with dude stuff. He's got dude chromosomes, dude chromosomes, dude DNA, dude bits, dude. It's all dude-age, okay? There's no objection. No jury would convict you if you saw this gentleman and thought, why is he wearing lipstick? Nobody would convict you. The problem is that normally if he was just doing his thing and just like I'm a dude that likes wearing makeup and I'm not going to try to bump women out of women's spaces, nobody would have. Honestly, we're all too busy. I don't care. Like, just don't bother me and interrupt me and, you know, be a burden on my life. But when you try shoving women out of men's spaces and then you fail at that and then you double down on the offense, you're absolutely going to get mocked and deservingly so because ridicule ridicules a magnificent weapon. Oh, and by the way, for the lady who thought that me talking about the mean lady in the gym the other day was about her because she thinks everything is about her, this isn't about you either. Just warning. So this guy, I just find it doubly offensive. He already tried pushing women out of women's spaces in boxing. Now... I would not want to buy the foundation or makeup that he is wearing because that's going to wreck a lady's skin. That's going to be too heavy for your old skin. There's no way that's going to work on us. It's not the same. If it's a formula thick enough for him, we'll break out from it. So it's not even – there's no cross-promotion here with this stuff. Golly.
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We're rolling the greatest hits on our social media.
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Yeah, I'm just saying that the point about giving people who are here illegally health care is not exactly what is in their proposal.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it is 100% what their proposal is.
SPEAKER 21 :
It's immigrants who have legal status and you're just disagreeing on who's eligible. I looked at it actually because I was curious about your argument yesterday.
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You should study the CBO's analysis that they just put out a few weeks ago.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I saw that, but the 1.2 million people, you're basically arguing about who has legal status, people who are seeking refuge here or seeking asylum.
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No, I'm making sure that we are making sure in our provisions that we sign into law have ensured that health care benefits go only to eligible U.S. citizens. But as is federal law. Federal law was not being enforced. That's the whole point. We had to fine tune that so that we could strengthen the health care program. That's what we did.
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It's just weird to try to hear a lawmaker have to explain something like this to a reporter because we've all read it, too. I mean, look, did I read the whole thing? I controlled F through like the last like, you know, however many pages of it. It is because there were certain things that I was looking for and there's tons of – I almost said illegalese. It's actually not a word. Tons of legalese in there. But it's important to be aware of this stuff because there's – like you just hear – Caitlin Collins, Caitlin Collins, Kate Collins, whatever her name is, on CNN tried to rewrite history with exactly what it what this bill does. And that's the CR, which was passed by the House. That would have solved the problem. And what they decided to do instead was to predicate everything upon. Literally securing. health care for people who entered the country illegally now she was she taking issue with him questioning their legal status or was she taking issue with him questioning the fact that they were being covered by the 1.5 trillion excess that's in this bill yeah
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She was trying to thread the needle, the needle of nuance as it relates to how these funds would be used. She's claiming, well, illegals, it's not by law. They can't have this. Right. But Democrats understand that they know how to get these illegals on this health care and how to suck us dry as a taxpayer.
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Yeah, because they're I mean, they're they're defense of this. They absolutely have. They absolutely. But guys, this is like not even up for debate. They absolutely are able to access. The question is how much and what specifically, which is determined by state. So be very careful of these arguments where people on the left try to. I'm trying to think of what it's similar that I can compare. Okay, so the Hyde Amendment, right? Compared to the Hyde Amendment, this argument to the Hyde Amendment. You guys remember back during, I think this was during the battle for Obamacare when everybody became very familiar with what the Hyde Amendment is and what it does, etc. But they were, the left was like, oh no, we're barred from spending money. taxpayer dollars on abortion because the hyde amendment however that's one of the stupidest arguments ever because money is fungible so if you have five dollars and you want to buy a television that's five dollars and you don't want to use your five dollars because then you don't have anything left and uh someone gives you five dollars so you have ten dollars then you can use that five dollars to purchase a television and you still have five dollars left It's not the five dollars that they gave you. It's the other five dollars that you had. I mean, this is like the stuff that we're talking about. It's just so stupid. So I feel like it's the same argument. They absolutely can. Because first off, you also have it's federally emergency care, particularly it's federally mandated. That's a law. That's the that's the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act. So regardless of your status, et cetera, everybody gets health care when you go through the ER. That's just that's just it. People who are illegal aliens can also receive Medicaid. That's something else that's a fact. There's like a tons of and then there's all kinds of state level variations as well. So this idea that they can't access any that that that that's not allowable by law is an absolute demonstrably proven lie. And it's shameful that anyone would try to argue that. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour. I almost said fourth hour. I have no idea what's happening. We're at the top of this first hour. And we are in a shutdown. We're in a shutdown. How much has your life changed because we're in a shutdown? Did you drive your car off the road this morning because shutdown came?
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I actually slept a little better.
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Did you?
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Yeah, it's weird.
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Yeah, interesting. Yeah, maybe I did too. I don't know. But this argument that we have from the left is Schumer's shutdown. That's just the way it is. It is absolutely his shutdown. And he's, well... He's not happy about this at all. This is like Chuck Schumer's last great ride, I think, isn't it? I really get that sense from him. I really do get that sense from him. But this is something that Democrats chose to do. Again, House passed CR. Democrats absolutely refused to cover it or to vote for it. They didn't want to vote for it. So and if you get the newsletter, if you're a subscriber over at Substack, you got the headline in the vote this morning. They're doing a bunch of procedural stuff today and we'll follow up with all of that. But this is Audio Soundbite 7. John Thune is like, well, you know, you made your bed. You got to lay in it now. Listen.
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There are some conversations. There are Democrats who are very unhappy with the situation that they're in. And what we're saying is that we need, as I think was pointed out here, another five. We need eight total. It'd be nice to have a lot more than that. But until there's sort of that critical mass of people who don't want to condone the hostage-taking that their leadership has endorsed and deployed, where we probably really aren't going to be ready to have a conversation. But hopefully that will happen. This is unnecessary, avoidable, and just so uncalled for. So I hope that we can find a path.
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Yeah. Well, hopefully. Yeah. They hope they can find a path. I don't know if Democrats are going to be able to do it, but they did absolutely walk right into this and they've just crashed and burned as a result. So the I noticed, did you guys see I saw this tweeted last night. Hakeem Jeffries had a live stream last night and it was called Stop the Republic. Kane's laughing. It was called Stop the Republican Shutdown. Kane, do you know how many viewers this thing had?
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Oh, I'm sure it's thousands and thousands, right?
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I mean... A little lower.
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What? Hundreds and hundreds?
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tens of tens kind of 156 oh that hurts nobody wanted nobody because nobody cared nobody cared and it was him and i can't remember who else uh i uh i i they just they basically got together it was i mean they literally oh but that was how it started i'm sorry let me correct myself 156 viewers 20 minutes in it dropped to 93 oh No. And then and then it got worse. Then five minutes later, it dropped to 38. This is just a stunt for them. So you would think that if the nation really believed what Democrats were saying that. You know that the country, this is a Republican shutdown, et cetera, and you're going to have to support. I would just think that, you know, in a country of. well over 300 million people, that there would probably be more than 93 of them that would be tuning into the literal House speakers live stream, right? You would think. But the overwhelming majority of Americans, they disagree with Democrats who want to shut down. This is polling from the New York Times that was released. Well, it was released, this was early this morning. The survey was done between the 22nd of September and the 27th of September. And I don't know what gambit Democrats thought they were pulling here. But this is and you're looking at the poll. This is a New York Times Siena poll. Whether or not Democrats should or should not shut down the government. The overwhelming majority didn't think that they should. But here's what you're not getting in the New York Times graph. Those include Democrats. Yeah, they include some Democrats. They, I think, have stepped in it even with the moderates within their party. And this is this is Democrats all the way to own. It's theirs all the way to own. So they had their they were trying to keep it everything funded. And that the the vote that they had was. This was yesterday evening. That was only going to take us through to November, I think, 21st. It's the CR, the Continuing Appropriations and Extension Act of 2026. The House, again, the House passed this thing on the 19th. They didn't meet the 60-vote threshold. They couldn't overcome the filibuster. They've been doing procedural stuff all this morning for that. Final vote was 55 to 45. And everybody but... John Fetterman. And this is interesting. Out of Nevada, Catherine Cortez Masto. Those two Democrats voted against it. Interesting. Or sorry, voted for it. And then you had independent Angus King who voted. He he. voted against the CR. Rand Paul also voted against the measure. But you had two Democrats. I mean, the final vote, 55 and 45 in favor, all but two Democrats. And they couldn't get over the 60. They have three senators who caucus with Democrats, King, Fetterman and Cortez Masto. They voted with GOP. So they voted yes. Only. But by the way, of those three, the only one of those three that voted earlier to support it, too, was Fetterman. That's just fascinating to me. He really is going to take up the mantle of John Manchin, is he not? OMB released a memo. I mean, they had it all prepared outlining what the Schumer shutdown is going to mean. And it's all about it's this is on Democrats. It gets into the insane policy demands. Again, they wanted over one trillion, one point four trillion, actually, new spending. I don't know what else Democrats think they're going to be able to do. You cannot continue funding government at this insane level because if Democrats get their way, then you know what's going to happen. I want you to guys think to think about this. If Democrats were to get their way. You're going to have one point for an additional trillion, an additional new spending. Right. Number one. But number two, what happens? You know, heaven forbid midterms. What's that going to do? One point four trillion and new spending, most of which is about providing expanding benefits for people who enter the country illegally. Like the majority of it is that. And then, of course, you've got some some forcibly funded trans stuff, et cetera. What does that mean for the base financially? for the Republicans going into midterms if this was something that they actually owned, if Republicans supported new spending. Think about what that looks like going into midterms and how untenable Democrats' position is. Democrats have to win midterms if they're going to have any chance at all whatsoever to thwart whatever remains of this second term from POTUS. The only way they can do that is take control of the House and draw him into endless lawfare with endless impeachment, etc., etc., etc., I don't think they are endangering their ability to do that. It was going to be a competitive election anyway. But when you look at the latest surveys and when you look at the number of independents particularly, and when you look at the measure of more moderate leaning Democrats who are fed up with this and they think it's just petty politics and they are also starting to question why is it that we're spending all of this extra money that we don't have as a nation covering people and extending to them benefits that our own citizens can't even get here. And I mean, we have veterans that can't even get this stuff here. So that's that's really driving a lot of this. They are in a very dangerous spot coming up. This is interesting. We've got and this came out of red state. Biden note cards for high profile Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, seem to vindicate some of the Republican concerns. Also, a lot of people are canceling their Netflix accounts because of a show which is aimed at literal elementary school children that talks about transing. 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not able to catch all three hours of the dana show subscribe to the full podcast and get news and laughs delivered in short easy to digest episodes ideal for your busy lifestyle on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcast one of the things that republicans are also doing and they're doing in the white house press conference a running sound of democrats talking about shutdowns in the past including sound of you this is the type of thing you've said about shutdowns in the past let's listen
SPEAKER 07 :
What if I persuaded my caucus to say, I'm going to shut the government down, I'm going to not pay our bills unless I get my way. It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis. Shutting down government over a policy difference is self-defeating. We can never hold American workers hostage again. While the CR bill is very bad, the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America that are much, much worse. Therefore, I will vote to keep the government open and not shut it down. That was you three times in the past.
SPEAKER 13 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
What's different this time? Yeah, that was in March, John, before they had done these horrible things to health care, before they had introduced these rescissions, which would allow them to ignore the budget process. And the bottom line is when I was majority leader, we had 13 times to vote on a budget. Do you know why there was no shutdown? We sat and negotiated with the Republicans every time. And you know what?
SPEAKER 24 :
Republicans tried doing that with him. I knew I was going to make it through this clip. Thank you, Juan. Democrats weren't going to sit down with Republicans. Remember, how many times did Trump have them to the White House? Trump had Schumer and Jeffries to the White House just a couple of days ago. And it didn't end well. And remember, they also voted for this thing previously. Previously, like 13 times the same exact CR. I don't know that what he's upset about is the rescissions strategy. And you remember the rescissions versus the pocket rescissions. We've talked about this. Actually, we talked about it with Chip Roy. Just was it yesterday? Day before yesterday. And that's you guys know what the rescission is. That's essentially we are nixing the funding of this particular program. policy, program, etc. And it is very much part of the budget process because the president has the absolute authority to request the voiding of spending money on a discretionary program. The executive has the absolute authority to request that. And that's what That's I mean, that's literally what POTUS is doing. I mean, he's he wants to cancel. It's like the rescissions, the request to cancel the funding for whatever. And he can do that. And Congress can say yay or nay. They can do it. Now, you know, the pocket rescissions a little interesting because the pocket rescissions is like if you think it sounds like pocket veto. And we've talked about this before. That's because the same strategy applies. But to rescissions, you just basically let the clock run out. And then it de facto becomes unfunded because there hasn't been enough time spent on the process to for Congress to react to it. So they the president's ability to cancel funds or impound funding. Congress cannot completely circumvent that. They can't totally outlaw it. So you have a deferral and you have a rescission. So for Chuck Schumer to say that this is going around the budgetary process, this is literally part of it. It's a feature, not a bug of the system. You know what I mean? So he's trying to mislead people into thinking that's like one of the tricks that he's doing as a way to try to suggest that somehow this is the Republicans' fault. Now, I take issues with things that Republicans do all the time. You guys know this. I get a lot of criticism from my own party or the party that I side with usually as a result. But the reality is that This is something the CR, they got so much heat on the CR. Let's go back to when they passed this in the beginning of last month in the House. They got a lot. There were there were some lawmakers that were demanding more and more fiscally responsible cuts. People like Chip Roy, you know, others, people on the Senate side, like Rand Paul, were demeaning that the House do this. They were getting a lot of heat even from like Trump surrogates over it that really wanted to get the CR passed. And you know what? They got the CR passed. Now it's at the Senate. So they did in terms of this process, they did their job. And the Senate Democrats are now agonizing because they kind of got caught in that they got hoisted on their own petard in a way. So that's why he's he's mad about it, because it is a very legitimate way for Republicans to kind of outwit Democrats on this stuff. They were always you know, they were always going to blame Republicans for it. There was the New York Times-Siena poll. Chuck Schumer said that the poll was biased. He was going on and on saying that, oh, this poll, this is audio soundbite 10, listen to this, cut 10. He was like, no, no, no, this is biased.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, I know the leader is going to show a poll that says that Democrats will be blamed for the shutdown. There are many more polls that show Republicans are blamed. The question in that poll is biased. biased. In the New York Times, but it's biased.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you turn the... That's true.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't always believe the New York Times. You can be sure of that. Neither do you. Okay.
SPEAKER 24 :
Hmm... Yeah. So it's not biased, though. If you actually look at the New York Times Siena poll, they always it's not actually I mean, barely kind of I mean, it's not really oversampled by Democrats enough for it to lean one way or for that even to be kind of a big talking point for me anyway. However, it's a pretty. I don't even want to give them this credit cane. It's pretty even keeled poll. Guys, you better mark that one for the books, because I'm not going to say it again.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which only points to its accuracy. Yeah.
SPEAKER 24 :
I honestly think that when they did, when they ran the survey, I really honestly thought that the New York Times were hoping that Democrats and independents were just going to be so hardcore, like, yes, it's all Republicans' fault. And they're like, yeah, well, it's not really, because the CR went through, and then Democrats in the Senate demanded all of this stuff. So that's what they're not going to get. And with this, too... This may be the first time since 2010 that Republicans have stuck to their guns on messaging on an issue that they were winning on. Because back during 2010, when that shutdown happened, oh, my gosh. Do you remember Ted Cruz at the time was one of the few senators that was saying, who cares about the shutdown? And all the other Republicans were just excoriating him on social media. How dare you say that? That's so stupid. But it was true. And the people weren't blaming Republicans for it, especially when you tell them, look, your Democrats are trying to. rush something for expediency, and then they're trying to take advantage of the fact that you need this done now as a way to get all this other nonsense in. And when people realize that they're getting screwed, yeah, they're going to be a little bit less amenable to keeping the government open. I mean, that's absolutely true. And the other thing is to expand Obamacare also with the continued inclusion of illegal aliens. This is on top of all the other problems with Obamacare, where you had phantom enrollees that were entirely subsidized, where you had people who are taking advantage of the system and they're enrolled in multiple programs. I think the whole thing is stupid. I can't stand Obamacare. It is a disaster for health care. And for the people who say that they have that they have noticed no difference, they clearly only just literally got were old enough to get their health care, apparently, because it was a disaster. It was a disaster. And will I mean, I pay three times more for my health care. than we did prior. And when it first switched over, we lost access. My son had severe allergies and asthma, and we lost access to that specialist, that pediatric specialist. We had to try to go find a new doctor. It was a nightmare. I had a dear family member who was dealing with breast cancer, going through breast cancer, and she had to find a new specialist throughout all of that because of Obamacare. So all of the people, and I saw the letter that she received no define her, that that was going to be her new reality. So these people who say that it got better, you are the most sickening of liars. It did not. It did not. And so all of those subsidies, where do those subsidies go for Obamacare? Where do they go? I feel like the left thinks that they go to the people, Cain. Don't you get that? I don't honestly think they know how it works.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think it's intentional.
SPEAKER 24 :
It goes to the insurers.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 24 :
Don't you want to be an insurance company right now, especially after Obamacare passed? Just think how many of those Robert Evans glasses you could get.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. You could literally turn a spigot on and gold coins would come out.
SPEAKER 24 :
Just pouring gold coins. I'm going to drink my gold coins. That's exactly what it is. There was complete fraud and then insurance companies all jacked up the cost for everybody. And remember, this was all predicted early on to cover up all of the problems with Obamacare. Instead of fixing the problems, insurers jacked up the prices. There was a subsidy insurer stock prices soaring after giant ACA subsidies that looked back all the way from 2015 and it went up to January 2024. And it showed that Obamacare and the COVID credits, big winners from those were health insurers. Their stock prices exploded. absolutely exploded so this is this is what's so frustrating about this you're talking about expanding this expanding it more and not only expanding this this ruinous system more but also incorporating people who don't even pay into it i mean it's it's crazy absolutely crazy And now you have people like Swalwell. Well, they're going to close hospitals. They're going to close all these things. They're going to they're going to. Oh, my gosh. This is how this is going to work. That's not hospitals, by the way. When hospitals close, it's because they're entirely mismanaged. It's because they have tons of red tape from their own respective states in which they are situated. And also, you know what else makes it hard for hospitals to stay open? When they're besieged by a deluge of people who come across the border illegally and then go take advantage of the care that is required by law to be offered to them for free that everyone else subsidizes. That also wrecks hospitals. Jiminy Christmas. People are out there like cancer research. Cancer research is going to end. No, it's not. The NIH gets billions and billions and billions of dollars in funding. That's so stupid. What are these people thinking of? This is the real truth of it. Real quick. Audio soundbite 23. This is cut 23. Maxine Waters. This is the real truth.
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Do Democrats want to prioritize the health care of illegal aliens over a government shutdown? Because if the government does shut down, Americans are going to be furloughed.
SPEAKER 01 :
Excuse me, stop it right there. We're not prioritizing. What we're doing is saying simply we want to keep the government open and we want to work with the Republicans and have a bipartisan agreement to keep this government open and health care is at the top of our agenda.
SPEAKER 03 :
But are Democrats demanding health care for illegal aliens?
SPEAKER 01 :
Democrats are demanding health care for everybody. We want to save lives. We want to make sure that health care is available to those who would die but having the help of their government.
SPEAKER 03 :
So you're good with a government shutdown, even if it means giving health care to people who aren't American citizens?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, you keep, that's what you're pushing on. What you're trying to do is, you're standing here and you're trying to make me say that somehow you're going to put nonsense in order. No, you just said it, though. She just said it.
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She gave you the answer. So that's exactly why this shutdown's happening. Maxine Waters just told you to your face why this shutdown's happening. And when they tell you who they are, you should believe them. We have more in store as we roll towards the conclusion of this first hour. And then, of course, we're going to get into Netflix. A lot of people are canceling their Netflix accounts. We're going to talk about why here coming up as we move. Our new partner, kind of a new partner to the program, the Dana Show program, especially since we've been talking about... healthcare and Obamacare and Medicaid and all of this good stuff. It's chapter. So it is, how many times have you heard this? It's Medicare annual enrollment season. I don't even know. I don't I mean, I don't even need it. But I'm like, wait a minute. It seems like it's Medicare annual enrollment season. So this is one Medicare message, though, that you should pay attention to because the plans change every year. So if you like your current plan, you can't keep it. You got to check in what's coming for 2026. The crazy thing is that if you don't renew or review your options, you could lose all of the coverage that you depend on. So you should call Chapter. Chapter can be a partner for you. They review every plan nationwide to make sure that you're not overpaying. And on average, they save people over $1,000 annually. These people are advisors. They're salaried. They advocate for you. They don't work on commission. And they're not the insurance company. And they don't advocate for the insurance company. It can feel like a hassle dealing with this. I hear my mom talking about it. And nobody wants to deal with the it's Medicare annual enrollment, nonstop calls and letters and stress. Have chapter. Check your options quickly. They can do it in under 20 minutes. And if your current plan is still the best fit, you're all set. If not, they're going to help you switch. No gimmicks and no pressure. It's just honest advice from experts who know Medicare inside and out. All you got to do is dial pound 250 and then say the keyword, my Medicare. Medicare is important for you and don't risk it. Work with Chapter. They will get you set straight. Dial pound 250 and say the keyword MyMedicare.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
SPEAKER 24 :
Shocking footage captures a carnival ride malfunctioning and crashing at a Los Angeles high school event.
SPEAKER 16 :
It trapped dozens. It's crazy. This is insane. You know, it looks like a malfunctioning transformer, like robots in the cars.
SPEAKER 24 :
That's what it looks like. So those were little buckets. I was trying to figure out what kind of ride it was.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's the thing called the zipper. So you get in with your partner and you go up and then it flips around when you go down the other side. It's supposed to go around, I guess, a few times.
SPEAKER 24 :
Can I ask a question? Sure. Is it just a malfunction when it falls off in chunks?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. It's hard to call that a malfunction.
SPEAKER 24 :
This is why I don't I'm really so you guys and I have some weird things. I'm really weird about buffets and I'm really weird about carnival rides because I like rides. Right. I love them. But if you don't look like a hardcore professional carny, I'm not touching your stuff. Right. I want somebody like I want the bearded lady who's been doing this for 50 years to operate my ride.
SPEAKER 15 :
If I saw you on the highway 45 minutes ago, I don't want to be in it.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know what I mean? I just don't.
SPEAKER 24 :
It is. This thing is crazy. I mean, that's not a malfunction. The thing fell off, like a bunch of them.
SPEAKER 15 :
It totally fell off. Yeah, you're right. More than one. I...
SPEAKER 24 :
I just feel like this was a weekend warrior project that didn't go well. You know what I'm saying? You've got to be crazy about those. There's always some kind of headline every year about some ride falling apart and somebody stuck in a Ferris wheel that somebody put together. No, no, no. I don't know if they got a union or not, but I only want professional carny stuff, man.
SPEAKER 15 :
Here's my thing. We have all this regulation on what kind of gasoline you can use or what kind of engines to have. They're not regulating these carny?
SPEAKER 24 :
No, not at all. They sit here and boss you around about what kind of light bulbs you can use. But hey, if you're a weekend warrior carny and not like a totally pro-hardcore devoted one, and you just want to tinker toy up a ride and put it up on the side of the road in a field and charge people admission, hey, you know, go ahead and do that. Yeah, we'll just zip tie it together. We'll use a little bit of that tape that we saw on the QVC. We'll just slap that tape on it. Yeah, the Flex Tape. We got a second hour on the way. We got to talk about the Netflix stuff and a bunch of other things to get into. Oh, and a man, another man trying to sell you a beauty product. Stick with us. Our partners that help bring you this hour, our friends at Caltech, the KS7 Gen 2 Shotgun. This is a shotgun to have. I think it was this one that was in one of the WIC films. I was actually trying to remember because I know that they had, or maybe it was a KSG, but this is the KS7. It's awesome. Absolutely awesome. It's the next evolution in home defense and innovation. And the KS7 Gen 2, you got tons of upgrades on this. First off, you got five slot Picatinny style accessory rail. So you can add vertical grips, you can add lights, you know, keep it flush and sleek if you want, whatever, however you want to do it. It's a smooth pump action for faster, cleaner cycling. You've got enhanced durability, but it's ultra light. I mean, it's like 6.8 pounds unloaded. It's a compact bullpup design, so you've got lots of maneuverability in tight spaces, ambidextrous downward shell ejection, a 7 plus 1 capacity, so you have serious stopping power. It is a go-to for home defense. Range days, fun. I mean, if you're seasoned or if you're a first-timer... The KS7 Gen 2 Defender is for you, and the Defender package ups the game as well. You've got Vortex, Crossfire, Green Dot, Extended Butt Pad. You've got the Magpul RVG Vertical Grip, all kinds of stuff. And you can get it classic Kel-Tec Black or as a part of the Defender series, totally kitted out and ready to rock. MSRP, $639. I know. It's performance within reach. It's from Kel-Tec. KF7, Gen 2, everything is made right here in the U.S. of A. American materials, American workers, everything. Learn more at keltecweapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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It's a disgusting video, and we're going to continue to make clear. Bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting to protect the health care of the American people in the face of an unprecedented Republican assault.
SPEAKER 24 :
Gosh. I actually like that. And I don't and I'm tired. I'm not going to pretend I don't. It's not going to do it. Welcome back to the program. Tina Lash with you. We're at the top of this. Excuse me. Second hour. It's it's fall allergy season. So bear with me. And chats at Rumble. You can watch us do radio channel 347 direct TV. So Trump waited until Hakeem Jeffries and all these Democrats got very upset over his posting of the. So it was Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer having a press conference and he put a sombrero on Hakeem Jeffries. It was the first video. Did you see was it Washington Post? No, no, no, no, no. It was ABC. ABC did a piece and they they had an image. a still of the video, and then they put over it. What did they say? Artificially manipulated is what they put on it because you guys are too stupid. You wouldn't know. Hakeem Jeffries doesn't really have a cartoon mustache.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wait, that wasn't real?
SPEAKER 24 :
I didn't know that that wasn't a rail. I thought he really had a sombrero. I had no clue. So then they all were freaking out over it. Well, then Trump posted another one. That was the new one that you just saw where Hakeem Jeffries was pretending to be outraged. You know, the people who who all went out and defended Jimmy Kimmel for in blackface, who repeatedly wore blackface throughout his professional career. They all went out and defended him, but they're super mad. that Trump put a sombrero on people who have been advocating for an absolute deluge of an open border. So he did it again. So, oh, my gosh, they're so mad. They're so mad, Cain. They're just they just don't even know how to react. So you have audio sound by 18. This is Representative Madeline Dean. And, oh, she looks like a hit. Madeline Dean was very upset. She confronted Speaker Johnson over POTUS posting a meme. Was this the first one or the second one? So this is her reacting to the first video. And then, yeah, yeah, she's big mad. This is how it starts. Just be nice, Johnson. I get it that he's got a herd cats. And, you know, he's got to be nice to everybody. This is why I couldn't offer you guys for the people who are like, Dana, we'd love to have you in office. You really wouldn't want to because I wouldn't get anything done. I'd be fighting with everybody. There's no way I wouldn't compromise. You guys would be yelling at me in a second. So then she's still she's still mad. Is this the same? This is the same exchange. Audio soundbite 19. So she's seething over this because. He does not think that putting a sombrero... How is putting a sombrero on Hakeem Jeffries racist, by the way? Yeah, AI did it. This is cut 19-1.
SPEAKER 23 :
I also asked him what he thought of the tweet last night after the meeting in the Oval Office with our leadership and Senate leadership. What he thought of the tweet that the president put forward with our leader in a sombrero, nodding with a mustache, and Schumer saying things, of course, that he never said. The speaker said that was not his style. I said, did you call it out? You should call it out for the racist, bigoted thing that it was. And he questioned whether or not it was racist.
SPEAKER 22 :
Let me just drill down on that. Mike Johnson doesn't know if a picture of leader Hakeem Jeffries donning a sombrero and a mustache is or is not racist? I said that very thing.
SPEAKER 23 :
I said an African-American leader of the House donning a sombrero and mustache. You don't see the bigotry in that? You don't see the racism in that? That's a problem, Nicole.
SPEAKER 24 :
Can you believe it? He was wearing a sombrero and had a mustache. I mean, this almost sounds like that song down in Mexico, right? I mean, they're very upset over this. They're very upset. Can you believe it? He wears a red bandana and he plays a blues piano in a honky tonk down in Mexico. He wears a purple sash and a black mustache.
SPEAKER 15 :
They're demanding we see this as racist, but they're unwilling to see this as comedy. I'm sorry. It's a two-way street.
SPEAKER 24 :
He's in a sombrero. He's a leader. He's in a sombrero. And he's got a mustache with a sombrero and a honky-tonk down in Mexico. Just saying. Her face could not have been more theatrically serious if she tried. What's her name? Madeline... Whatchamacallit? Bean? Dean? Whatever her name is. She's so serious. The way that she was looking at the camera.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, Nicole. A sombrero and a mustache.
SPEAKER 24 :
So that's bad, but... Making call emotionally blackmailing the American public as bigots because they think that people should, I don't know, maybe enter our country legally and making sure that the people who are getting benefits, i.e. health care, things of that nature, are people who are paying into the system. And that you're not robbing from our overburdened citizenry to lavish it on four star hotel rooms for people who come across the border illegally. That's OK, though. That's not bigoted. Trying to portray the people who object to that as somehow being morally deficient because you need to appropriate a voting block for yourself and pay people off and work in collusion with cartels and coyotes to smuggle people across the border. The Democrat Party are the biggest human traffickers in the United States of America. The number of people that they have enabled to be trafficked across the border to say nothing of the New York Times article that talked about the hundreds of thousands of kids that had been trafficked in under Joe Biden across the southern border and then lost in the interior of the United States. And let us not forget, too, that it was a Biden official. Who was it? HHS that said. That, in fact, these people need to be processed faster. And they had also said that it should be like the Henry Ford conveyor. What did they say? Henry Ford would be disappointed. And this was a New York Times piece. Here's the headline. This came down. This was from February of 2023, this original piece. And we went over it, but I just wanted to reiterate because Madeline Dean apparently thinks that this is OK, but the sombrero and the mustache is just too much. This is just it's just asinine. That's she thinks that that's apparently too much. This piece, though, and again, I know it's a New York Times piece. It talked about under under Biden, Harris, quote, arriving in record numbers. They're ending up in dangerous jobs that violate child labor laws, including in factories. They make products for brands like Cheetos and Fruit of the Loom. Hannah Dreyer, Kristen Luce, February 25th, 2023. It gets into the whole thing of it. It gets into the whole thing. The whole and also remember, there was the comment that was made by Xavier Becerra, HHS. Here it was. I'm going to read this graph and then we're going to move on. Quote, they had concerns about missing kids piling up in summer 2021 at the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the HHS division. So that's why HHS is over this, because they took over Office of Refugee Settlement. Resettlement. They were responsible for the children that were brought by coyotes and others, the rent a kid because of the Flores Amendment under Obama, Biden, that expedited people that walked in with a kid, regardless if it was their kid or not, which required Barack Obama and Joe Biden then at that point to separate kids from adults to make sure that they were not being trafficked in. And in fact, they were. But they said that their concerns were piling up 2021 and that staff members said in interviews, Xavier Bracera continued to insist and push for faster results, asking people why they could not discharge these illegal. And I'm not talking about kids that are 20 years old. I'm talking about nine year olds, illegal alien children that were illegally brought in against their own will. And you can't tell me that's informed consent by adults and coyotes. He was demanding that they, quote, discharge children with machine like efficiency, quote. If Henry Ford had seen this in his plants, he would have never become famous and rich. This is not the way you do an assembly line, end quote, said Mr. Becerra at a staff meeting last summer. But a sombrero and a mustache, oh, heaven forbid, no. Where is this white knight, this concerned, you know, complete caricature of a suburban Democrat woman, Democrat, voter who wants to white knight over everything. Where was her concern over this? No, no, no. She's just upset. You know why? Because the whole sombrero makes it, regardless of whether you like it, it puts two points together. Democrats and illegal immigration that they are continuing to subsidize and facilitate at the expense of safety and security in our Hispanic dominant communities as well at the southern border. But you know, So I don't take these people's consideration. I don't take any of this seriously with these individuals. Her concern, it just reeks of, it just is, it's pompous and it's performative, right? It's incredibly performative. I also wanted to touch on, oh, do I want to get into this or should I save this one? Representative McBride in the skit. Kane, how bad is this? Should we save that one? Okay, they're telling me to say, all right, we're going to. So Sarah McBride decided to make a cringe skit.
SPEAKER 15 :
And she wasn't the only one.
SPEAKER 24 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 24 :
They fear, according to Newsweek, that there are at least 20 fatalities in this major earthquake, 6.9 magnitude, that struck the Philippines. Powerful offshore quake with a 6.9 magnitude. It hit central Philippines late Tuesday, collapsed walls of houses and buildings. 20 fatalities at least. Many others injured, officials said. And it cut power across different provinces and sent residents fleeing into the streets in the dark. That's terrifying. So they're obviously trying to get everything under control there. That's terrifying. At night as well. I can't imagine like a tornadoes at night. No earthquakes at night. No, no thanks. Michigan confirms an alligator was spotted at Belle Isle Park in Detroit, Michigan. State Parks and Wildlife officials confirmed they're trying to figure out to do what to do about credible photographic evidence of an alligator at Belle Isle Park. Visitors alerted park workers to a potential allocator sighting, although the officials themselves did not visually confirm the presence of the gator. But they said they're coordinating a search of the area and determining next steps as a precaution. And they said that they were aware of social media rumors regarding a boa constrictor sighting, but there's no evidence that the boa... I mean, are they just going to start making stuff up? There's also a Bigfoot there. Or herd. Just think. This is wild. In a television interview... A man admits to killing and burying his parents during a television interview in their upstate New York home eight years ago. And then as he left the studio, he was arrested. The guy, Lorenz Krause, 53, it came a day after police said they recovered two bodies from a home in Albany as part of this investigation that found his parents dead. And they were still receiving apparently Social Security payments, despite the fact that no one saw or heard from them in years. So this guy contacted his local news outlet, right? He said for a half hour interview. And then he said that he mercy killed his parents because they were aging and becoming frail. And he goes, yes. And it was so quick. And he was obviously arrested right after he left. That's insane. Thieves steal a million dollars worth in craft whiskey from a Washington distillery. They made off with 12,000 bottles of craft whiskey in a rare U.S. liquor heist. And not only did they get about a million dollars worth of the product, they apparently also took about half... of the stock of a single malt distillers that they'd worked on for more than a decade to make. It's the Skagit Valley Sheriff's Office that's investigating, and whiskey aficionados are wondering where the Westland Distillery's first 10-year Gariana whiskey might turn up. And they don't know. That's kind of wild, right? I wonder if they're going to relabel them. They said the bottles of the Gariana are irreplaceable. And they said it's a pretty extraordinary situation. And it's going to be difficult to sell them. I would think that they would change the labels, wouldn't they? You think they would? But then, I don't know, you could get more knowing that they're that particular type of whiskey. So that's a catch-22 for a greedy thief, isn't it? That's kind of wild. And... Why are people talking about steroids turning dudes gay? That's like a huge article. We're going to come back to that. I don't have time, but apparently that's an article and a lot of dudes are talking about it. Some. I think they're probably already gay. Stick with us. Did you know that fall is one of the best seasons for planting? Many trees and plants thrive when planted now, but knowing where to start makes all the difference. That's why you should turn to Fast Growing Trees, the largest online nursery in the United States. They offer thousands of plants from fruit trees to privacy hedges, all tailored to your climate. So landscaping feels stress-free. Plus, their Alive and Thrive guarantee means that your plants arrive ready to grow. No more loading up a dirty car or wandering around a nursery with limited options. And grown to last by American farmers, all on American soil. Whether you want privacy, shade, or natural beauty, fall is the time to plant. And with fast shipping, expert support, and top quality plants, Fast Growing Trees makes it happen. Get up to 50% off of select plants at FastGrowingTrees.com. Use code DANA at checkout for an extra 15% off of your first purchase. Visit FastGrowingTrees.com and use code DANA for an extra 15% off. Offer valid for a limited time and terms apply.
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SPEAKER 24 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of the second hour. So Elon Musk has called for a Netflix boycott. Well, he said he was boycotting. Actually, he's like he goes cancel Netflix for the healthier kids. And he cites this show called Dead End Paranormal Park to show on Netflix that has. I mean, it's a pretty. Well, I mean, they're promoting trans stuff to kids. Now, the show is advertised for young kids, right? But it's rated PG, but it's still advertised for young kids. And this guy, I think people found it. I don't know because it's not even in production anymore. It's an older show. And one of the so Lorraine made the point that she thinks people found it because the creator of the show that who wrote the comic on which the show is based was mocking Charlie Kirk's murder. And I think that that's kind of and I tend to agree that I think that's maybe how people found it. and so now everyone saw the show and this is like an example of the content for this program and because we don't want to get pulled from youtube we can play the audio and show you the screen cap but that's pretty much it but this is like the scene for example this is uh cut 27 park it's it's me
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm trans, Norma. And everyone at school knows. And everyone at home knows. And being here, it's like a whole new place. I can just be Barney. And I can choose if and when I tell people. I've never been happier. And that's saying something when I spent today chased by terrifying zombie mascots. Pugsley reminded me how important it is to live your life without apology. So I think I gotta give living here a shot. Don't you?
SPEAKER 06 :
You don't need my permission. I just wouldn't want Courtney as a roommate.
SPEAKER 24 :
So the guy who plays Barney is also apparently trans. Yeah. And so Musk thought was like, oh, yeah, we got to, you know, cancel it for to protect your kids. The guy who Hamish Steele, who created the. comic on which the show is based was the guy who was, you know, apparently he was making fun of Charlie Kirk being assassinated and his, the show got canceled in 2023, but it's still on Netflix. Like it's archived on Netflix and, And it's supposed to be PG. I don't know. I mean, it seems when you they're like, oh, it's not really for kids. It's for PG. But then you see the content. It's being marketed towards kids. I'm not even going to take that from these people who are like, oh, guns are marketed towards kids. No, they're not. But this clearly is. This absolutely is. And it hasn't been a production for like over two years, but it's like I said, it's still up on Netflix. So still the guy who created the comic that the show's based on, he made fun of Charlie Kirk being murdered and said some really nasty stuff online, like tons of stuff. And then so now Musk, it has Musk's attention and he's gone after it as well. And then he kind of flirted around with the idea of creating a Netflix like entity and competing with Netflix. Right. But I mean, the guy the guy literally celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk. He absolutely did. He celebrated his murder and made fun of it and all this other stuff. So I don't know. I've never seen it. The it got it was canceled after the second season was released in October of twenty twenty two. And the, again, the Kirk stuff, his comments, and then plus the Barney Trans character just catapulted it now into the news. I just don't even know why anybody would watch this. People got to pay, parents also need to pay attention to this stuff. There's almost no... I would not set my kids in front of any new animation unless it was like anime. I would not put them in front of any non... I'm not kidding you. If it's not made in Japan, if it's not made even in South Korea, if it's not anime or if it's not old Warner Brothers, I would not allow my kid to watch it at all. No joke. I don't even know. And my kids, when my kids were younger... We really, really watched what they watched. And they could watch, I mean, you know, obviously get your chores done, blah, blah, blah. But they could watch, you know, the stuff that we approved for them to watch. And they watched old Warner Brothers. They watched VeggieTales, things like that. But this new stuff, because it's so... Subversive. You might watch a couple of episodes of something and then like in the third episode, boom, here's a character that's talking about trans or talking about very, very adult subjects in what is clearly children's programming. And there's no indication in any of the descriptions for parents ahead of time. So you've got to be very, very careful as to what you allow your kids to watch. I'm not kidding. I would not allow my kids to watch anything unless it was a pre-approved, pre-really sussed out selection that we had picked for them. probably even more, it would be more controlled than I was with my kids when they were little. You would have to be, because there's so much stuff out there. And there are so many people with political agendas. Used to, when people would create content like children's programming, it would be programming that the kids would find entertaining. Now, it is the adults that want to massage their egos by presenting what they think kids should believe to kids. It's not about servicing the kids anymore. It's about servicing the ego of the creator. And they're usually left-leaning. So have you ever seen the show, Cain, the dead and paranormal thing? Paranorman almost went too far for me towards the end. It was a good movie, Paranorman. And at the very end, boom, they hit you in the face with alphabet stuff that's way above a kid's pay grade.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I mean, you have to think about how these things get created. There's a lot of intention behind their creation, because you've got to be able to generate the funding in order to make it even happen. So you've got to sell your idea. Now, did they sell them on this idea in the beginning, or did they bait and switch them? That's something that I'd like to find out. But this was all done with intention. Oh, completely. And they all are done that way.
SPEAKER 24 :
So kind of in this, do you guys remember Imane Khalifa? The boxer who wanted to compete as a woman and got kicked out. Remember this guy? Iman Khalif from Algeria rose to global prominence and they call him a her, but man, it is such a dude looking dude. So this image of this guy. So now he got kicked out of the boxing thing. So he's not in the boxing stuff anymore. And, by the way, Juan says that he canceled his Netflix account over a year ago. Good for Juan. He's like, there's no point in watching this garbage. Man, Juan's going to beat somebody with a flip-flop. I'm not messing, man. So this Amin Khalif, let me set this up, and then I'm going to tell you where it's going to go. So this dude who was a boxer, he got bounced out of boxing because he's a dude who wanted to compete as a female. And now he is... the face of a beauty brand that is from Algeria. Now, Juan is showing you right now, the middle screen is the ad, okay? A beauty brand. A beauty brand.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hold on. If I'm the photographer, and by the way, I'm not a professional photographer.
SPEAKER 24 :
I swear to you guys, hands to sky, this is real.
SPEAKER 15 :
People watching on the screen right now at home, that's a guy who doesn't look happy. That's a man. Right.
SPEAKER 24 :
I, uh... what is it for is it like for uh how do they use that one of all the pictures they took is this the best photo right that they had i got i got a lot of questions about this is this the best i i don't know i've i'm very torn on this so the it's called bell nco i don't know how to say it's from uh it's algeria it's an algerian beauty brand And in the campaign, they said, well, he embodies strength. Well, they call him a she. And they go she, but it's a he. Embodies strength, resilience, and grace. It's a perfect reflection of what skin with attitude really means. So I guess it's like a foundation. This is a dude. He is the most dudest dude I think I have ever... She sounds hideous. Well, she's a guy, so... I've ever seen. But I just need to see the ad again. I'm sorry, Juan. I just want to see that ad one more time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe he's born with it. Maybe it's... Maybe it's testicles. Maybe it's a penis.
SPEAKER 25 :
It's just... Excuse me, it's ma'am.
SPEAKER 24 :
It is ma'am. I'm just saying. Is that the best photo? Is that his smolder?
SPEAKER 15 :
Smolder?
SPEAKER 24 :
Ladies, are you buying a beauty brand from that? Are you going to see, I want to look like that man? Said no lady ever.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, so we all know that marketing is a lot.
SPEAKER 24 :
That is a man's jaw, Cain. He can crack nuts with it.
SPEAKER 15 :
A lot of the marketing has to do with the visuals, right? So this guy doesn't look anything like a woman. And then he's holding up the product. And the product looks like it's some black label RX you get from Randall Drugs. Like, no one's going to be buying that. The packaging doesn't... Juan, put that up on the screen again. It's like, what is that? I don't even know. I don't even know. I'm not even a woman.
SPEAKER 05 :
Come buy my foundation.
SPEAKER 24 :
I'm just... He could sell razors for your face. But I'm not. Here's another reason why this ticks me off so bad. Dudes do not have the same skin as women. Dudes grow hair on their face. Women do not have the same skin texture. We don't have the same issues. We don't have the same hormones. We don't have the same concerns. A man cannot wear a makeup that will be suitable for a woman to wear. It is not possible. It's just not possible. You're ignoring the needs of females to cater to a guy who's playing dress up. And then you want to smear everybody as bigots who object to it, who object to being erased. He already tried to erase women in women's sports. And now he wants you to listen to him about ladies' makeup. This is actually, believe it or not, the most feminine photo that he has ever taken. Kane, if you don't believe me, Google his name and look at the images.
SPEAKER 15 :
I did, and you are right. And it looks like there was a lot of effort to make him look like a female.
SPEAKER 24 :
I mean, he looks like he hates the product.
SPEAKER 15 :
It just ain't working. Can't believe I'm selling this.
SPEAKER 24 :
What is he going to sell next? Tampons? Like, are you going to?
SPEAKER 05 :
Some Tampax.
SPEAKER 24 :
Imane Khalifa's Tampax. Where does it end? You know what I'm saying? Like, where does it end? I mean, it's a legit question.
SPEAKER 15 :
It should have ended a long time ago.
SPEAKER 24 :
But that is actually, I can't, that's like the most feminine photo I've ever seen of the dude. He's a dude. He's a dude with dude stuff. He's got dude chromosomes, dude chromosomes, dude DNA, dude bits, dude. It's all dude-age, okay? There's no objection. No jury would convict you if you saw this gentleman and thought, why is he wearing lipstick? Nobody would convict you. The problem is that normally if he was just doing his thing and just like I'm a dude that likes wearing makeup and I'm not going to try to bump women out of women's spaces, nobody would have. Honestly, we're all too busy. I don't care. Like, just don't bother me and interrupt me and, you know, be a burden on my life. But when you try shoving women out of men's spaces and then you fail at that and then you double down on the offense, you're absolutely going to get mocked and deservingly so because ridicule ridicules a magnificent weapon. Oh, and by the way, for the lady who thought that me talking about the mean lady in the gym the other day was about her because she thinks everything is about her, this isn't about you either. Just warning. So this guy, I just find it doubly offensive. He already tried pushing women out of women's spaces in boxing. Now... I would not want to buy the foundation or makeup that he is wearing because that's going to wreck a lady's skin. That's going to be too heavy for your old skin. There's no way that's going to work on us. It's not the same. If it's a formula thick enough for him, we'll break out from it. So it's not even, there's no cross promotion here with this stuff. Golly, it's Medicare annual enrollment again. And if it feels like the whole system is broken, well, you're not wrong because you get millions of spammy mailers calls from weirdo unknown numbers, very confusing fine print. It's designed to overwhelm you. So the real problem is that Medicare plans change every single year. What covered you yesterday might not cover you tomorrow. If you don't check, then you could lose benefits that you depend on and the system will not warn you. To make it worse, too many insurance agents push plans that pay them more, not what's best for you. So that's why I'm telling you about Chapter. They cut through the broken system by looking at every plan in the country and not just the ones that pay the highest commission. On average, they save people $1,100 a year. Look, I know that nobody wants to spend time on this, but with Chapter, it takes less than 20 minutes to review for 2026. Call Chapter by dialing pound 250 and say the keyword MyMedicare. That's pound 250, keywords MyMedicare. Medicare is too important, so don't risk it. Work with the partner that I would trust, Chapter.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 24 :
All right. I just saw Cain tell a dude that he needs Midol on social media. Just saw that one. It's a nice, nice comeback. All right. So a Florida attorney was convicted of bringing cocaine into a Florida jail. It's almost like he should have known that that was illegal. If only he had the education to know. that that was illegal. 60-year-old David Castles was convicted of one count possession of cocaine, count of felony, introduction of contraband into a county detention facility. Why are his glasses crooked? On his mugshot. It's bothering me really badly. It's very asymmetric. In the verdict, the judge sentenced him to a year in jail, three years of probation, 300 hours of community service. He has to go through substance abuse things. Stuff like that. But that's just one of the dumbest cell phones. So much of this is like self-owning. People self-owning. This one guy got 17 and a half years because he led a cocaine trafficking network from Puerto Rico to New York. That's also a big bad no-no. So I'm surprised New York did anything about it, right? But it was a cocaine distribution network that spanned from Puerto Rico to upstate New York, U.S. Attorney's Office. They handed this dude, a 49-year-old dude from Lady Lake, Florida, 17 and a half years in prison. He was also involved in money laundering. distribution all kinds of bad stuff uh that's not something that you know there's a lot of the the cocaine distribution happening here uh this gulf coast news the florida man was accused of street racing at 124 miles per hour And when the police got him, his excuse was that, quote, I have to use the bathroom. That's why he went 124 miles per hour at 3 a.m. on a Sunday, you see, in Lee County, Florida. It was a late night street race. And they're still searching for the motorcyclist. He was racing a motorcycle. This is how people get killed. The Toyota Camry this guy was racing. If you were wondering if it was a Camry, you are correct. A Toyota Camry motorcycle stopped side by side into traffic like they were able to get it on some CCT stuff from other businesses and that. But yeah, they clocked him at going 124. The motorcycle hit more than 140. When they stopped him, he said, I had to use the bathroom really badly. I had to use the bathroom bad is what he said. The Camry driver did not have a license. And the police were like, well, that's a red flag, number one. And number two, that it was happening at three in the morning. That's also another red flag. And then Sheriff J.D. Grud, he well, no, Sheriff Grady Judd said a Florida man who is a retired deputy insulted workers at McDonald's drive through with a child in the front seat. So he drove through. He was competitive towards McDonald's workers. And he had like an unstrained kid, 18 month old in the front seat. We'll have more on that tomorrow. Third hour on the way. Stick with us. It's always important. or asinine laws that say 18-year-olds can go and carry full auto in defense of their country and foreign lands, but heaven forbid they're not responsible enough to carry a 9mm semi-automatic pistol here at home if they're living alone and going to college. That being said, this is where the Berna gun comes in. You believe in diversification of weapons, that's why you have rifles and pistols and different calibers and blades, etc. This is just adding to the diversification of your self-defense array. Berna gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. When you compare it to a regular stun gun that has one or two rounds, the Burna gun outmatches it by 15 round shot capacity per cartridge. No recoil. Easy target acquisition. The CL, the compact launcher, is the most compact model that they have. It's the size of an iPhone. And there's no gun-free zone sign that matters to the Burna gun. It doesn't care about gun-free zones. It's illegal in all 50 states. You can buy it online, have it shipped to your door. There's no fees. There's no background checks. There's absolutely nothing that is barring you from being able to make sure that you have a means with which to defend yourself. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. It's the Burna, C-L-B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana. Burna, ready when you are.
SPEAKER 20 :
We're barreling towards a shutdown. All my Democratic colleagues are here. I'm going to go search for my Republican colleagues.
SPEAKER 19 :
Republicans, Republicans, y'all know there's a government shutdown. Republicans, anyone here? Sorry, sir. Is Mike Johnson in here?
SPEAKER 20 :
Let's see if some Republicans are in here.
SPEAKER 19 :
Are there any Republicans in here? Hello? Republicans?
SPEAKER 24 :
Why is this guy in the House? No Republicans here. Because back in September 13th is when they passed the CR. Why didn't he go to the Senate? That's Sarah McBride. He is a trans member of the House. And he is... That's so stupid that he's doing this because he's in the house. They did their job already. They passed it. And I don't understand why he's in the wrong chamber. Gosh, that's a loaded statement. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. and by the way he's called out he says uh that republicans are weird and that he lives in their heads rent free we're not the people trying to live in your head and force you to change your language to affirm our cosplay that's you and your obsession so we're not going to turn this around but that doesn't make any sense he needed to actually go and uh go into the Senate. And then if you went into the Senate, they were actually there in the Senate. So just, you know, FYI. Speaking of all of the trans stuff, can we play... This is how crazy it's getting. So this is another show that's on Netflix. And it is about... You guys know Transformers, right? Everybody knows Transformers. Kane, Transformers, we grew up with them. They're the vehicles that... They're robots that turn into vehicles. And vice versa. So there's this show and it's called Transformers Earth Spark. I don't like a lot of the new animation because I just think it's shoddy and it's just hurriedly done. So I'm not really a fan of this because it's like all, it's just soulless. You know what I mean? It's like all soulless computer generated stuff. Anyway, so in Transformers Earth Spark, which is a kid's show, one of the robots is, is trans apparently. So here's the first cut when one of the little kids corrects Optimus Prime on pronouns. No, that's the one in the monitors in the second cut. The first cut is where the little kid corrects Optimus Prime's pronoun usage. Watch this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Can you switch? Mike Shane's pronouns are they and them. He or she just doesn't fit who I am. My apologies. Please switch their piece.
SPEAKER 24 :
And again, we can't play the video, even if we record the video, because they'll scream to shut us up about criticism, copyright violation, and pull our account down. So in the thing, so that's how they keep you from actually telling people what they're doing. They try to use copyright law, and even in fair use instances, to protect the transient indoctrination of kids. So they, yeah, Nightshade's pronouns are they, them. Nightshade's a robot. Nightshade doesn't even have a vagina or a penis. Nightshade has no copulatory organs. It is a robot. It's a robot. Why are we doing this? Their pronouns are they, them. Well, that's not grammatic. I would just... Done with this. Done with it. But there's more. Wait, there's more. So this is the second part. And this is one of the characters who talks about binary and being who I am and stuff like. Watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's hard to know who's dangerous or not.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's true, though disappointing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, it's okay. I know I'm safe when I'm with my friends or other non-binary people.
SPEAKER 24 :
Or other non-binary people.
SPEAKER 06 :
People who aren't female or male. Oh, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have assumed.
SPEAKER 23 :
I always knew my pronouns felt right, but... You're a robot.
SPEAKER 24 :
You are a robot. This is so stupid. I can't. It's Transformers Earthspark. This is a mental disorder. I just don't. I mean, Transformers, come on. It's not to be taken literally, guys. Transformers, Earthspark, it's not to be taken literally. So they turned Transformers, these robots that fight the Decepticons, now into robots that sit here and lecture kids about gender. Right? Right? They now they get I mean, this is just asinine. It's asinine. Now you get you get a from kids programming now from you get from Netflix rainbow sermons about your gender and copulatory organs. That's what you get. That's that's what that's what the kids shows are now. You see how insane this is. This is literally a show that's a kid show. Transformers is a kid show. It's not even PG. It's a kid show. And it's being completely promoted towards children and brainwashing kids about gender and language. More than meets the eye. Autobots. So far removed, Kane, from the Transformers that we know. The big problem is now this robot's pronouns. Well, you're a robot. But it's the pronouns. The robot identifies as a human that is confused about what its genitals look like. That's the robot. So wait, this is like super trans. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. It's a robot. Now hear me out. This is the guy pitching this to Netflix. Okay, hear me out. I got a show idea. It's about Transformers. Oh yeah, robots, Autobots work really good with the younger generation. No, no, no, no, no. It's more than that. It's about a robot that identifies as a confused human that is confused about what his genitals look like. I'm sorry, what? Yes, yes, yes. That's the whole pitch. That's the whole show. It's a robot that identifies as a human confused about what its genitals are. But it doesn't have any genitals. It's a robot. But that's not the point. The point is that it is a robot that identifies as a human that is confused about the genitals that it has. That's the point. But again, it's a yes, a robot that imagines phantom genitals and is confused about them. Do you see the stretch here? Oh, my gosh. I'm confused. I am confused about the phantom genitals that I have as a robot. Oh, my gosh. This is for kids. Kids are cartoons are supposed to, you know, good guys beating the bad guys and teamwork. And, you know, now it's all well, kids, you know, you've got to use they them pronouns and et cetera, et cetera. Now you can see why people now are fed up with Netflix. This is just garbage filler. Do they just do this kind of stuff because they can't afford any more, any better programming because they gave all that money to that worthless ginger balding ginger and his briefcase game show wife? for their stupid non-cookery show. I'm going to sprinkle flower petals and everything because I don't know how to decorate desserts. I'm just curious. What if your kids were watching Transformers and that came on, Cain?
SPEAKER 15 :
First of all, I don't think I would ever see... Like, I would never thought I'd see that on this kind of a commercial. Like, we grew up on... Remember, like, the anime stuff, Voltron and stuff like that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Dude, Voltron was the best.
SPEAKER 15 :
Those were the best. And Transformers came out, and it's like, oh, here's, like, the American version with trucks and cars and stuff. This is cool. Yeah. Never expected it to go like this. Never thought the trans in Transformers was going to go this far. But, no, I... It wouldn't happen.
SPEAKER 24 :
Indoctrination in disguise. That's exactly.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, they're not even disguising it anymore.
SPEAKER 24 :
This is a problem. But I don't do the they-them thing. You know why? Because I'm talking to one person. Shut up. I'm not going to be like they-them. You're not a people. You're a person. Not doing they-them. I've never had anybody lecture me about pronouns, though. Like, tell me, oh, no, I identify as, because that would not fly with me at all. But this is how ridiculous this is. Now you can see why this is exploding in younger generations, because it's all over TikTok, CCP programmed, and it's all over animation. It's all over a lot of this U.S.-produced stuff. This is just bad. It's not even good. These aren't even good storylines. It's not even good character development. It's a crutch. They use it as a crutch. We're not going to develop this character beyond this shallow identity of confusion. That's it. And that's all that they're worth because it's a crutch. It's a crutch that's leveraged as a cudgel during elections. That's exactly what it is. I mean, I feel bad for kids today. Kids don't even know what they lost, Cain. They don't even know what they lost. Oh, my gosh. By the way, have we checked in on Jimmy Kimmel lately? Oh, no, I haven't. I forgot that he, yeah, his ratings have dove even further. This is audio sound by 25. I guess this is a joke. Is this a joke? Is this what is a joke? Go ahead.
SPEAKER 25 :
My ratings aren't very good. Last time I checked, your ratings were somewhere between a hair on your salad and chlamydia. In three and a half years, I'm not the one who's going to be doing mascara tutorials on YouTube. How did we wind up with a president and a vice president who wear more makeup than Kylie Jenner and Lady Gaga combined?
SPEAKER 24 :
That's not even funny. And they don't wear makeup, although Trump probably does spray tan or something. But so, I mean, I don't care. The border's closed. I don't care what he does. He can spray paint himself blue for all I care. Is that supposed to be a joke, though? That's just bad writing. That wasn't even amusing. That was just disappointing. I can't believe we wasted just the 23 seconds of our lives on that. I feel like I want to send an invoice to Jimmy Kimmel, just like you wasted 23 seconds of my life because I had to hear this hideous joke that clearly you wrote yourself.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's exactly how America feels. Those numbers don't lie.
SPEAKER 24 :
I get offended when I have a hater that would insult me or try to attack me, and it's just not clever. Because I feel like I'm worthy enough that I should get a smarter troll, right? Someone who really crafts a really witty one-liner. And that's just, they don't exist. They're just all dumb, spiteful, petty little people. Like with this. And by the way, the approval rating for POTUS and the VP are actually higher than that of Congress. Jimmy Kimmel wouldn't know, though, because his ratings are so low. He's in this pit. He's in the nether now. He's already gone to the nether. He's gone so low. Patriot Mobile. Patriot. All Family Pharmacy is a family-owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications you need when you need them the most. with over 200 essential medications available, including antibiotics, antivirals, things like ivermectin, emergency kits, and more. They have you covered for everything from daily prescriptions to biohacking support. Each order includes a doctor's prescription, so there's no hassle or middleman. Plus, with fast shipping options, including overnight delivery, your medications arrive quickly right to your door. And as flu season approaches, now is the time to stock your medicine cabinet with essentials like Tamiflu, antibiotics, and vitamins to help keep you and your family healthy. Being proactive with your health is smarter than reacting too late. And beyond basics, All Family Pharmacy offers biohacking products like NAD+, Methylene Blue, and so much more, all designed to boost energy, focus, immunity, and even weight management. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 to save 10% today. Don't wait. Be ready for flu season with All Family Pharmacy. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
SPEAKER 15 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 24 :
By the way, do you know that it's like pudding season? What does that mean? Like season of pudding? Somebody sent that to me. Way to listener sent that to me. Angel. And I have no idea why, but she's very excited about it. Let's see. This is in Britain. They have obnoxious commuters that are ruining Britain's train travel. And they said that it's unbecoming behavior that's not new. And they're Metro. Now, it means something differently over here. It's the letter T hyphen backers. That's what they call them. So the letter T hyphen backers. And they said that their obnoxious commute is ruining our train travel. And that's literally what their metro system is calling them. They people who take over your reserve seat and they won't move. And even doesn't matter if it says reserved. And they apparently they're having big fights about it. So now they're. for some reason, their metro system decided it would be helpful to label those people with a name as opposed to just maybe enforcing the tickets. I mean, they enforce them in Italy. They enforce them in France. Why can't you do it in the UK? It doesn't make any sense. Ford is recalling over 115,000 trucks for his steering defect. It's kind of a big deal or anything because you can just totally lose control of your vehicle. That's, you know, 115,000 trucks, Ford 250s, Ford 350s, Ford F450 models from the 2020 and 2021 model years. The regulators identified a problem with the upper shaft of the steering column, which could just detach from You know, and you can get the defective part replaced for free at a Ford dealership. So just, you know, be aware. You'd lose control of your truck. That's why. Let's see. Researchers say that there's a rising cancer, rising cancer rates amongst millennials. They said it's probably environmental exposures, like things that rhyme with the word schmaxine. Okay. Just saying a lot of stuff has exploded after the mandatory jab. I was talking to a doctor, a cardiologist, literally on the way back from Arizona when we were out there for the memorial. And he said that he has seen a massive increase. And we I just we're just grilling him. I'm like, so do you think was it the covid injection? And he goes. Yes. He goes, there's a common denominator here. I'm like, ooh, interesting. The world's tallest bridge has opened to traffic. So I thought Texas had bad tall bridges. This is, oh, of course it is. Yeah, it's worse than any one in Texas. This is the largest bridge. It's in southern China. I don't think it's real. I got to be honest. But it probably is going to break apart the second you put weight on it. Stick with us. We got more in store. Our friend's over at Relief Factor. A lot of people deal with inflammation. Doesn't matter if you're in your 20s or your 70s. It is a big deal in a lot of Americans' lives, and there's a way to manage that, to deal with it, so that it doesn't turn into, you're not dealing with aches and pains from unmanaged inflammation later on in life. So this is where Relief Factor comes in. With Relief Factor, if you want to manage everyday aches and pains, you can do it really affordable, and it's 100% drug-free as well. It helps to support your body's natural health. inflammatory response and it targets the inflammation that can keep you from doing the exercise that you need to do or enjoying the things that you love 100 drug free it's a research-based formula created to support a healthy response to inflammation and decrease discomfort from exercise aging whatever it is you can maintain healthy joints and muscles promoting better movement and less pain over time try relief factors three-week quick start for just $19.95 that's only 95 cents a day less than a cup of coffee don't wait visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF to get your three-week quick start today for only $19.95 support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you
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SPEAKER 16 :
So the president's been posting some images of Leader Jeffries and Senator Schumer recently. I saw them. You've said that you're interested in good faith negotiations with these leaders, but what message does that send? Is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries in a sombrero if you're trying to have good faith talks with him?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I think it's funny. The president's joking, and we're having a good time. You can negotiate in good faith while also poking a little bit of fun at some of the absurdities of the Democrats' positions and even poking some fun at the absurdity of the Democrats themselves. I mean, I'll tell Hakeem Jeffries right now, I make this solemn promise to you that if you help us reopen the government, the sombrero memes will stop. And I've talked to the president of the United States about that.
SPEAKER 24 :
I mean, that sounds like a deal, but Democrats won't take it. Doesn't that sound like it? Would you take that deal?
SPEAKER 15 :
That's a negotiation I think they can find some common ground on.
SPEAKER 24 :
I feel like this is kind of like Inglorious Bastards and Brad Pitt's like, you know, I'll take that deal. That sounds like a good deal. I'll take that deal. I was the vice president. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this third hour. The memes are funny, but they can't laugh at themselves. They can't laugh. Nothing's humorous to them. You know, I saw, speaking of humorous, this post from... The guy who basically he's an NPR dude. He's a host of an NPR show. He just, I don't know. This is what he tweeted. Listen. Quote. This is the first day since NPR was founded that it has not had federal support. And we're here, strong, vital, and with an audience of millions, we will keep on serving. No fees, no paywalls, and across all divisions, we hope you'll support your local stations to serve all America. So my thought was, proving that you could do this the entire time without taxpayer dollars. So you didn't need taxpayer dollars at all to do any of this. I feel like we should be able to list them as a dependent. I think you could. I mean, just... But that was unnecessary then.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know how many years I'd have to go back and amend my taxes because of that? Oh, geez. A little trouble may be worth it.
SPEAKER 24 :
A little trouble would be totally worth it. I would do that just because I'm that petty. I absolutely would do that. Yeah, there you go. So, I am... just they will tell on themselves like for instance where's the audio sorry the maxine waters audio where she said oh yeah this is totally about giving money or giving health care making sure that people who are here illegally was it 23 yeah yeah yeah cut yes cut 23 please just you know reminder
SPEAKER 03 :
Do Democrats want to prioritize the health care of illegal aliens over a government shutdown? Because if the government does shut down, Americans are going to be furloughed.
SPEAKER 01 :
Excuse me, stop it right there. We're not prioritizing. What we're doing is saying simply we want to keep the government open and we want to work with the Republicans and have a bipartisan agreement to keep this government open and health care is at the top of our agenda.
SPEAKER 03 :
But aren't Democrats demanding health care for illegal aliens?
SPEAKER 01 :
Democrats are demanding health care for everybody. We want to save lives. We want to make sure that health care is available to those who would die but having the help of their government.
SPEAKER 03 :
So you're good with a government shutdown, even if it means giving health care to people who aren't American citizens?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, you keep, that's what you're pushing on. What you're trying to do is, you're standing here and you're trying to make me say that somehow we're going to put non-citizens over Americans. Quit it. Stop it. This is the kind of journalism we don't need. You're divisive. No, you're not. Oh, she just asked a question.
SPEAKER 24 :
So Maxine Waters just gave it up, man. She just gave it up. She told you everything right there that you needed to hear. Of course, first off, a hospital cannot turn someone away in an emergency event. And I already told you that's a federal law. It's been a federal law for quite a long time, in fact. You are not, I mean, you can go, you have federal requirements for emergency care. It's the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act. And that if they have an emergency medical condition, they have to be treated. So what she's saying, that's already existing. She's trying to act like that doesn't exist. So they need more money, but the more money that they want to get is actually going to go towards covering none of that. That's the reality of it. That's the reality of it. I wanted to touch on a couple of other things here because there's some things that I had missed and I'm pulling it up right now. Oh, here it is. All right. So the two things, because we've got some stuff with the left. So we have... We talked about J.B. Pritzker yesterday. Mamdani still refuses to, this is from New York Post, still refuses to denounce Hamas. This is just recently. So remember, there have been Jewish voters and conservatives that have been trying to get Mamdani to at least say that he doesn't support Hamas. And he refuses to do that. Now on top of it, I don't know if you've seen this, but I started to see more and more headlines about this. So I have a whole list of stuff that I'm like, oh, this is something I might want to come back to later, or that it might come up maybe in another piece. So there are all kinds of people in Hollywood that are now Because you have all of these film festivals that are boycotting Jewish artists. Anyone who is Israeli or Israeli cinema as a whole. And this is, I think, maybe like the, I don't know, the millionth article that I've seen on this. So Emma Stone, along with Mark Ruffalo and others, are boycotting Israeli films. And they've... been working with an advocacy group called Film Workers for quote-unquote Palestine. But everybody from Olivia Colman, Tilda Swinton, Peter Sarsgaard, they've all signed this pledge that they are not going to screen films, appear at, or otherwise work with any Israeli media. Anything. Institution, production, broadcaster, cinema, company, festival. They're boycotting all of anything Israeli. Anything Jewish. Because their whole criticism is they talk about, oh, there's a genocide in Gaza. You mean Hamas' genocide? I'm just curious. They are going after, they said that any Israeli artists, storytellers, creators, etc. This came after, I think it was, I'm going to pull this story up because I have this in my, so Gal Gadot had to drop out of the Venice Film Festival. She had a film, The Hand of Dante, but she was bullied out of attending because of this movement. And she didn't go. They had a petition that was signed by over 1,500 film industry members that demanded her invitation be canceled. And so for her own safety, she actually had to withdraw from the festival. And there were these, you know, this is insane. There were other people. So they targeted Gal Gadot. Then they started targeting Gerard Butler, who was in the film with her, just by association. I am just shocked. They said they demand, because she is Israeli, she had to be disinvited. They wanted her disinvited. And anybody who supports Israelis or Israel had to be disinvited. That's insane. This sounds like 1930s type stuff. I and I say it's it sounds like 1930s type stuff because it does. All of these people are upset because Israel is pushing back against decades of terrorism and torture at the hands of Islamists. who will kill their own people and lie about it and say that Israel did it so they can try to incur favor and curry sympathy from the international community who is eager to jump along and go along with it because it looks trendy to get on the Gazan thing. That's what this is all about. If their objections weren't predicated on absolute BS, that would be meaningful. But they're not. Just like in the 1930s, people made up reasons to harbor grudges and to boycott anything that had to do with anybody Jewish and all of that. And notice how they're changing the language now. Now they're saying, oh, well, you know, we don't want Israeli involvement. Well, you don't want Jewish involvement. Just be honest about it. Half of the people who are objecting to this, they can't even be accurate in what kick-started this whole thing in Gaza in the first place. They won't even be accurate about it. And if you can't be accurate about it, your objection is to just Jewish people, not to Israel. You're trying to mop Bailey your bigotry. That's the reality of it. And the fact that they're doing this and they're running out these actors and actresses is just this is 1930s insanity. Where are all the people who want to see fascism everywhere except where it actually exists? All the isms are the same. It's all some level of stupidity. But Emma Stone getting involved in it. The only reason Emma Stone is anywhere is because Lindsay Lohan got addicted to drugs. And now Lindsay Lohan looks even better than Emma Stone does. Emma Stone took Lindsay Lohan's place. Lindsay Lohan would have not, she would have edged out Emma Stone because she's a better actress. But all these, Mark Ruffalo, he's a perpetual grouch. These are people who are just blindly partisan. And they'll glom on to anything that supports it. Yeah, Kane says they all sound like Kanye. Yeah, they do, don't they? Yeah. Yeah, they absolutely do.
SPEAKER 15 :
I also look at that, the whole collaboration with these lefties and these actors and actresses as like the 51 intelligence experts letter or whatever. They try to just trot these people out as though they have any credibility in this arena. And so, yeah, whatever. I'm so immune to it anymore. Yeah.
SPEAKER 24 :
These people are mad that all the people who signed this, they're mad that Israel hit back after, you know, a couple thousand of their people were murdered, including some Americans, by the way, by Iranian supported Hamas. They're they're upset over it. These people couldn't even tell you when Hamas assumed control of the Strip. These people couldn't even tell you the government structure of Gaza. These people couldn't even tell you who actually runs Gaza, who runs the Palestinian Authority, and the beef between the two factions under the authority. They can't even tell you the factions in the authority. They're morons. They have no idea what's going on in this arena. But they're, oh, well, everybody's signing on this letter that they don't want to work with Israeli actors and production companies. Oh, I'm going to sign it, too, because I've got to stay relevant somehow. And then they have the audacity to pretend it's not just about their dislike of Jewish people. If you can't articulate... like accurately why you hold the position that you hold, then you need to do a personal inventory of your own feelings and determine whether or not it's because of bigotry that's motivating it. This is all leftist nonsense. All of this is leftist nonsense. And I don't care if it purports to come from some weird recesses on the right. It's all leftist nonsense. Coming up, the Pope blesses an ice block. We got to talk about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 24 :
So the pope blessed a block of ice in a climate change ceremony. He's touching the block of ice and he's blessing the block of ice. And, you know. And then this was at some big leftist thing. And it gets weirder because then after, well, go ahead and cue this. They had some kind of pagan ceremony wherein they danced around it while he just stands there on stage. With all your creatures. They unfolded this like blue fabric that I guess is supposed to represent like water. What is this, Cain? What am I watching? This is... What is this? I don't know. What is happening?
SPEAKER 15 :
My first question is, if the Pope blesses water, is it holy water at that point? Is that how that works? And if he blesses ice, is it holy ice?
SPEAKER 24 :
If he throw it at a vampire, does it hurt them?
SPEAKER 15 :
And then if the ice melts after he's blessed it.
SPEAKER 24 :
I feel like I'm watching... I mean, we're watching a pagan ceremony. I don't know what this is. Like, they're pulling out... This is pagan. Like, you're dancing around singing about water and climate change and... I mean, sorry, that's pagan. And if it hurts your feelings, then your issue is with God, not me. What does this have to do with... Why are we doing this? What is this? This is the kind of stuff that people are like, wait, hold up. This is kind of a problem. And surely people who love the Pope can understand how that's a problem for people when they're watching this. This is like a leftist pagan thing about climate change. And he's standing there awkwardly on stage while all these people and these things are... I mean, I feel like I'm watching like some sort of like druid thing where here's the thing that no offense to the druids, but good night. They're pulling out this like, but what is that? What is this? I don't know what I just feel like maybe that's something that especially in an era of Christian revival, that might be something that the pope ought to not want to do. You know, I just just saying. I don't know. I don't know. In the meantime, all of the protestations on behalf of Christians that are being attacked in tons of different sub-Saharan African countries, you don't hear really anything about that. I heard proclamations about, you know, Gaza, but I haven't heard anything about the Democratic Republic of Congo. Islamists killed 40 there. I mean, what about the Christians that are being slaughtered in Nigeria? No, but we're going to do this? Really? In an era of revival, this is what we're doing? More on that tomorrow. Cain, today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I had the Pope here because he apparently was praising Dick Durbin, who's pro-abortion, which I think is also another weird thing that the Pope would do. But why don't we do cut 20 here? one because rep mcbride is it sarah mcbride because he's a dude a dude but here go and play this we're barreling towards a shutdown all my democratic colleagues are here i'm gonna go search for my republican let's see republicans she's in the house you all know there's a government shutdown here's the stupid part um the house already voted on this yeah it's the senate that has to vote on it now so why she's getting and stunting i think we know why
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, we do. Folks, that does it for us today. I hope that you have a great rest of your evening. Substack, find us there. YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow.

In this episode of Washington Watch, Tony Perkins delves into the current government shutdown, its implications, and the political dynamics at play. With Senate Democrats allegedly holding the government budget hostage, Republicans express their frustrations over the stalled negotiations. Casey Harper reports live from the nation's capital, shedding light on the unfolding situation and the public's growing disillusionment with partisan gridlock.
SPEAKER 11 :
From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Unfortunately, we are here this morning in a government shutdown that Democrats wanted. Chuck Schumer, at the behest of of a bunch of liberal, far-left activist groups has walked his Democrat colleagues into a boxed canyon.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was Senate Majority Leader John Thune earlier today accusing Democrats and the extreme left of using the government shutdown to score political points and hurt everyday Americans. Welcome to this October 1st edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us. Well, coming up, troop pay will be delayed and many federal services are now on hold, all because Democrats blocked a Republican plan to keep the government open. Missouri Congressman Mark Alford will break it down shortly. And a new survey reveals many evangelicals hold religious beliefs that are not anchored in the Bible. What does that say about the state of the church? Pastor Jack Hibbs will join me to explore this. Well, just moments ago, another vote on the government funding bill failed to pass the Senate and the Senate has adjourned until Friday. The shutdown began last night when Chuck Schumer and the Democrats refused to agree to a straight continuation of government funding. The military and other essential services will continue, but pay for those individuals will be delayed. Many federal services will also be limited during this time. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper. Casey, we're about 17 hours and five minutes into this shutdown. What's the latest?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right, Tony. I'm reporting live here from D.C. or shutdown city. You know, Republicans say they're getting increasingly frustrated with Senate Democrats who've now actually blocked the funding bill to keep the government open three times in the last two weeks. And actually, House Speaker Mike Johnson, he went even further. He accused Democrats of playing political games with the lives of Americans.
SPEAKER 14 :
Democrats could have worked with us in a bipartisan manner to avert this unnecessary and very harmful shutdown. But instead, they did something that is rather shocking to us. They prioritized taxpayer-funded benefits for illegal aliens over keeping the government open for American citizens. They themselves positioned that as a binary choice, and it's patently absurd.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, you know, Tony, Republicans say they just want a stopgap bill to keep the government open through November 21st. That'll give them time to hash out a longer-term funding measure. But Democrats are demanding these expensive, permanent Obamacare extensions. So far in these Senate votes, they failed to reach that important 60-vote threshold, even with a few Democrats and even one independent breaking away from Democrats to vote with Republicans to keep the government open. And how do Americans feel about this? Well, a New York Times-Siena poll was released yesterday, and it showed that 65 percent of Americans are not in favor of the Democrat shutdown. And in fact, even half of Democrats, they don't support the shutdown either, Tony.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't think many people do. All right, Casey, thanks. I have a feeling that we're going to see these same headlines for a few days because, as I mentioned earlier, the Senate will not come back until Friday. The House will not be back until next week. So we'll continue to monitor this. I want to go to another topic. A Trump administration is using a provision of the infamous FedEx. Face Act. That's a measure that was passed back in 1994, signed by Bill Clinton, to target pro-life protesters. It's being used by the Trump administration to actually protect religious worshipers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's right. This is an important development. The DOJ, under President Trump, they're taking action to defend religious freedom. And in fact, to be specific, they're suing these two pro-Palestinian groups that were allegedly harassing Jewish worshipers at a synagogue in in New Jersey. So this happened at a protest last November and protesters reportedly they turned violent. They were using bull horns, they were even getting physical with the attendees reportedly. Because of that, for the first time ever, the DOJ is gonna use the FACE Act, which as you said is a law passed to protect abortion clinics protect them from being, you know, the protests from getting too aggressive. They're going to use that law to protect these synagogues and churches. So the DOJ has previously enforced the same law in favor of abortion clinics. This time it's going to be used to protect worshipers. This is all according to Civil Rights Division Chief Harmeet Dhillon. And Dhillon said, you know, she had a clear message. She said the days of ignoring attacks on houses of worship are over. and the face act as you said is passed in 94 of bill clinton arab law it was used to protect these abortion clinics from things like human chains or even severe harassment but now this new lawsuit is going to protect these houses of worship in places like new jersey tony
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I am thrilled to see it. I'll talk more about that later. You know, the Family Research Council, we've been tracking these growing threats against religious communities, and we support stronger federal action to protect worshipers. And I think this is a positive development. As I said, we'll talk later. more about this. A new survey by Ligonier Ministries that was conducted by the Lifeway Research, Casey, reveals some widespread theological confusion among Christians in America, and it's raising concerns about biblical literacy and doctrinal understanding in the church. What are some of the key highlights from this survey, Casey?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's a pretty worrying survey, Tony. So State of Theology is the name of the survey, and it revealed these troubling gaps between what American evangelicals believe and what the core Christian teachings actually are. So despite most evangelicals claiming the Bible is their highest authority, when you ask them, many of their beliefs actually contradict Scripture. So, for instance, nearly two-thirds of evangelicals say they believe that people are born innocent, not in sin. And that God accepts, you know, worship from all religions, you know, Islam, Hinduism, God's okay with it. Of course, the Bible refutes those positions pretty clearly. And there's also confusion about the nature of God and the love of God and how he, you know, feels about people, as well as an idea of church commitment. Only 61% say Christians should join faith. a local church so the study it's raising alarm bells it suggests a growing lack of biblical literacy and especially doctrinal clarity among evangelicals and even contradicting one another tony
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what? I have a remedy, Casey. It's called stand on the word. We need people to be reading the word of God because a lot of this people don't read the word. And so they hear something and it sounds biblical, but it's disconnected to actual teaching. We're going to actually dig deeper into this with Pastor Jack Hibbs a little bit later. Casey, thanks so much for joining us. Joining me now to discuss the latest on the government funding battle and shutdown, Congressman Mark Alford. He's a member of the House Appropriations Committee and he is the chair of the RSC Messaging Task Force. He represents the 4th Congressional District of Missouri. Congressman Alford, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Tony.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good to be with you.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, we're 17 hours and 10 minutes into the shutdown. Give us the latest.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, look, we are at a standstill. Chuck Schumer and the Democrats are holding America hostage. It is their crisis, the Schumer shutdown. It's day one of this. It could go on for another week or two weeks, just depending on when he's willing to throw in the towel. A lot of pride is at stake for Chuck Schumer because he does not want AOC to run against him in a primary to take away his Senate seat, and that's the whole reason he's doing this. You might remember back in March, he went along with a continuing resolution then, and he got vilified for it. People were after him because he supposedly sided with Republicans. And so Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, and the Democrats would rather fight against President Trump than fight for Americans. Republicans are fighting for Americans. And Tony, you and I have talked about this before. I do not like continuing resolutions. But now that I'm on the Appropriations Committee under the direction of Tom Cole, our chair, we are moving forward. We are making progress. We got all 12. appropriation bills out of committee. We got three passed on the House floor. They are now in conference with the Senate. We are making progress and all we were asking for was seven more weeks for us to be able to get our job done to get these appropriation bills out of the House and the Senate. and over to the president's desk so we can get back to regular order. That's all we wanted, a clean CR. And the Democrats are saying, no way. We want health care for illegal aliens. We want to repeal a lot of the reforms for Medicaid. We want to be able to have adults with no dependents living in their parents' basements back on Medicaid. We're not having that. It's a bunch of nonsense, all because of Chuck Schumer's pride. This is a Schumer shutdown, and the American people are seeing through it.
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Congressman, let me go back to something you said a moment ago, because I've talked about this on the program before, and I just want to make sure people hear this, that this is more about Chuck Schumer's personal politics in the state of New York than it is about the well-being of the American people, because he is afraid he's going to be primaried by AOC as New York becomes more liberal and out in left field. This is about his personal politics.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tony, I have never seen anything more ridiculous in my life, how one man, who's trying to still prove his relevance in the US Senate and his relevance to the voters of New York State, He's holding America hostage. I mean, this is a crisis that he has created so that he can get back to Washington, D.C. That is not the heart of a servant. That is selfish, selfish to put military at risk. Here's what he could do.
SPEAKER 06 :
And children at risk for food programs. If he wants to certify his liberal bona fides, he can put on a dress, come onto the Senate floor, vote for the resolution, and go back to New York and campaign. All right, let's talk about what's happening inside the House here as the Republicans communicate. What are the internal conversations?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, look, we had a good phone call today with the speaker. By the way, I'm back in my district. I visited two rural hospitals today. I drove an hour and a half to get there down in the southern part. We're talking about this $50 billion rural transformation fund we have set up to keep rural hospitals in business. And that's one of the things that the Democrats want to do away with, by the way, by voting against the Clean CR. But the phone call was good. Russ Vogt was on that phone call as well, talking about procedurally how they are going to manage this shutdown. There are some tough choices to make. No one wants, I think, to really lay off more federal workers. But I think this does give the administration the opportunity to downsize. I mean, look at the increase that we've had since Joe Biden took office. exponentially the number of federal workers that have been added to the payroll. Some of them are not needed and this gives the Trump administration the opportunity now to go in and make some surgical cuts to reduce our federal debt in part by reducing some of these workers. We'll see what happens.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that's the authority that the president has and a shutdown. And so they handed that to the president. Just about two minutes left. Congressman offered the Senate. I mentioned this earlier. They they had a vote failed. They adjourned. They're coming back on Friday after the high holiday of Yom Kippur. When's the House going to be back?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I'm planning on driving back, actually, probably Sunday. I think we need to be back Monday. We haven't heard anything officially. We do want to be there. Look, we were getting a lot of grief from the Democrats because we're not there. We're not there because we don't want to put on a stupid show like they've been doing on the House floor and in other places, taking selfies, singing songs on the Capitol steps. That's not what this is about, folks. This is about the heart of America. This is about funding the greatest nation known to man. and making sure that we are aligned with President Trump and the American First agenda and reducing our deficit and getting our work done. Once again, the Republicans have done the reasonable, rational thing. We have gotten our work done. We just needed an extension. That's all we were asking for. And the Republicans have got it done, but the Democrats are standing in their way. So we'll go back next week. We will be waiting patiently for the Democrats to come to their senses, for Chuck Schumer to get off his high horse, put down his pride, and pick up a banner for the American people and do the right thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we'll see who comes to their senses first, whether Hamas agrees to the 20-point peace plan or the Democrats pass the continuing resolution. Congressman Mark Alford, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, buddy. Take care. All right. All right. Coming up, as we talked about at the top of the program, the Department of Justice is taking action against activists, pro-Palestinian groups who targeted a New Jersey synagogue last year. And they're using the infamous FACE Act. Now, this is what was used to go after Operation Rescue when they were blockading clinics back in the 90s. And there was a provision. I'm going to talk about how this provision got in there when we come back. So it's being used to protect churches. Don't go away.
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Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Washington Watch. All right, in a little more than two weeks, like-minded Christ followers from across the nation are going to gather at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in California for our Pray, Vote, Stand Summit. You know what's going on in our nation. If there was ever a time that we needed to gather together to pray, to gear up to vote, that is stand for biblical truth in the public arena, it's now. So I encourage you to join us. There's still time to register. We still have room. October 17th and 18th. To find out more and to register, go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. All right, as we were talking about earlier this week, the Department of Justice filed a federal lawsuit against activist groups and individuals who targeted a synagogue in New Jersey during a November 24th protest that escalated into violence. Now, the lawsuit was filed under the FACE Act. That's short for the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, which, as I've been talking about, was signed into law in 1994 by Bill Clinton, and it has been used increasingly to in recent years, against peaceful pro-life protesters, okay? Now, this was created, as I mentioned, back during the 90s when Operation Rescue was blockading clinics. Well, before the bill passed, this is how this provision got in here. And I know because I was tracking this very closely back then. I was a police officer, all right? The bill was amended by the late Utah Senator Orrin Hatch to provide parity, and it made it illegal to disrupt a worship service. Now, I'll be candid. I've been advocating that this law be used to protect churches for years. In fact, in the last Trump administration, I called on them to use it. Many conservatives didn't want it to be used. They wanted it to go away. My view was, if you use it to protect churches, it will go away because the left will want to get rid of it. Well, the Department of Justice has used it as a prosecution tool against pro-Palestinian groups that targeted a Jewish synagogue. Joining me now to discuss this is Dr. Moshe Glick. He is the president of the New Jersey chapter of Israel 365, which we work with, and he's the host of the synagogue event that was targeted last November by the mob. Dr. Glick, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me, Tony. Appreciate it. Well, I'm grateful that the Department of Justice is pursuing this. Describe for our viewers and listeners what transpired on the night of November 13th.
SPEAKER 02 :
You and me both are really happy that the Department of Justice is engaged in this.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I want to start off by thanking Harmeet Dhillon, who's done an incredible job, Pam Bondi, and President Trump. For too long, these groups have been able to just run roughshod around synagogues and churches. And we see increasing violence in churches. We just saw two vicious attacks yesterday. Michigan, Utah, and the music just plays on and no one's really taken a stand. And so we're really excited that this happened.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, this was not just people disrupting. I mean, this was a violent mob that left many of those attending in fear of their safety.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it was terrifying.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I've been involved in Zionist and Judeo-Christian initiatives for a very long time. I've been to plenty of protests and just activities where we support America, we support Israel. And this was the first time that I've ever seen a violent incident transpire at one of these events. The crazy thing about the whole thing was I was one that ended up getting arrested at the end of the night. So what basically transpired is we had a religious service at Congregation Hortora, one of the synagogues in West Orange, New Jersey, where my wife and I live. And just a group of aggressive protesters just descended on the synagogue, a mob, and shouting the most vile anti-Semitic tropes. It felt like 1930s Germany. And the group basically marched, stormed up to the synagogue. Police, we had coordinated with the police in advance. They did not have a permit. I actually emailed the police in advance. They did not have a permit to march. Police still allowed them to march, marched right up to where we were holding our service. Part of the service was outdoors. Part of it was inside. where we sang songs. We had psalms. We had read psalms. There was a sermon from the Bible. And the group came in blowing these vuvuzelas. And I didn't know what they were until recently. A vuvuzela, if your audience doesn't know, is a they've been banned in many stadiums. It's a obnoxiously loud horn blew that these vuvuzelas disturbing disturbing the event.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I'm not sure how much detail you want me to get into, but that's kind of how it started. So let me ask you this question.
SPEAKER 06 :
You said you were arrested because one of those was blown near your ear, and these things can cause hearing loss because they are extremely loud. You pushed it away. Is that the reason you were arrested?
SPEAKER 02 :
So, no, that was the beginning of it.
SPEAKER 13 :
So what actually transpired is the Vuvuzela gets blown right into my ear. And we have video, and I'm happy to share with your audience the video of what transpired. I pushed the Vuvuzela away, clear video evidence. And then one attacker just takes a very aggressive stance, starts coming forward towards me. I back up, not looking to get into an altercation. I'm a dentist. I've never had anything more than a speeding ticket in my life. The last thing I was looking was to throw down. And then another attendee from the event, I didn't see this at the moment, actually pepper sprays this individual who was about to launch an attack. He gets pepper sprayed. The individual, and we'll throw his name out there since it's public record, Altaf Sharif, he then, about seven or eight or nine seconds, he's kind of rubbing his eyes. The pepper spray incident is over, and then he doesn't know where he got pepper sprayed from. Another individual there points out and says, that's the Jew, literally points at him. Mr. Sharif then launches into a, and again, I'm happy to share the video, launches into a pretty violent attack, puts this smaller individual, his name is David Silberberg, puts him into a chokehold. The first thing I see is this, and I yell out. I'm screaming for the police. There was enough police around. Police, police, police. The police don't come. He basically tackles him down a hill in front of the synagogue. They kind of get to the bottom of this small hill. I then attempt to push Mr. Sharif off using my hands. He's a much larger individual, doesn't budge. I mean, I was just going to say the police are standing there.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is this is what's happening when the police allow this lawlessness and they allow it when it's targeted at churches and synagogues. Thankfully, a new message is being sent now that the law is being enforced to protect the freedom of worship. Dr. Glick, we're out of time in this segment, but I want to thank you for coming on. And in anything we can do to help, we want to stand with the Jewish community as we have been against anti-Semitism and against these attacks against the Jewish community.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you, Tony. And we want to stand with our Christian brothers as well in our shared Judeo-Christian values. And you see as much as we see what's going on in this country. And it's great. So, again, thank God that, you know, Pam Bondi and Harmeet Dhillon and the DOJ got involved. And hopefully this sends a message to the world. Dr. Glick, thanks so much for joining us.
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Stick with us, folks. We're back after this.
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We have got to stop demonizing each other. Yeah. Now, I think most of that right now in our country's history is coming, you know, from the right, coming from people who want to dominate. They want their point of view. You know, we have got to stop with the finger pointing and the scapegoating. OK.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. So. All right. So I'll just say I forgive you for calling me a deplorable. I can agree with that.
SPEAKER 10 :
But wait, there's more. Clip two. The idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, you know, let's say it, white men of a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point of view, a certain ideology. It's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, oh, so there's a footnote to that. We need to stop demonizing everyone but white men. Oh, white Christian men. Well, speaking of white Christian men, I'm going to invite Casey Harper, managing editor of the broadcast at Washington Stand and host of the Outstanding podcast, to join me again. Casey, you're a white Christian man. Welcome.
SPEAKER 16 :
Indeed. Hey, thanks, Tony. I want to tell you that you are my, of all the deplorables out there, you're my favorite.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Let's talk about this for a moment because, I mean, in all seriousness, there is something very significant behind this. And so I want to make clear that it's not just about... white men that the left is going after. It's all men, but it's easy to bash white men. But this is about going after masculinity. This is something that we have seen for quite some time is the attack on manhood. And Casey, we know what happens when we attack men, do we not? What happens in society?
SPEAKER 16 :
well, you know, men are called to lead. Biblically, men are called to lay down their lives, not to lead as overbearing and domineering, but to lay down their lives to serve their families and to advance the Christian faith. And so if you want to take down America and if you have a demonic agenda, you're not going to be able to accomplish it without taking out the men. And that used to be kind of hidden behind the scenes, but I think now it's been exposed and now they can say it on MSNBC, I guess.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Casey, what encourages me in the wake of what happened with Charlie Kirk, is that I think the curtain's been pulled back. We've seen literally millions of people that have responded to Charlie's call to faith, to live out one's faith. And I think people have responded to him in part because he, as he was growing and maturing, he was modeling, I think, what... Men should be Christian men because out of that Christian faith comes a conviction to stand up for something. And you have the courage to do so. And that's what Charlie was modeling really at the gates of hell. You know, when you go to these college campuses and I think the response. So of so many people was an admiration of that and a longing to see more of it.
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Yeah, I think what's really interesting is that Hillary Clinton actually in that clip has a surprising amount of clarity about what really is stopping the nation from sliding off the cliff into hell. And I actually wish the church had the same clarity that Hillary Clinton does, which is recognizing that the Christian church and in particular Christian men standing up and taking their role is possibly the one thing that is really the key to this revival that we're all hoping for and talking about and saying maybe is here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And so as we see how those on the right are responding, we see how those of you described on the left are responding. I think what Hillary Clinton was revealing in that interview with with on Morning Joe was that the left sees Christian men as the obstacle to their power, because if men of conviction will stand up with courage and challenge them, their road map. to power is going to be blocked. Because here's the deal. When you attack a man, when you attack a man, biblical manhood, what you do is you attack the family. And when you attack the family, you create chaos in the community. And when you create chaos in the community and you've fractured the family, guess what? You need more government. And that gives them the ability and the power to invade the lives of American citizens, take control of the church, the family, it gives them the ultimate power they're looking for.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's absolutely right. And if we want to go even deeper, what spiritually I think is going on here is this, it's really the spirit of Jezebel in the Bible that's been motivated to attack men, to tear them down, to crush them. And it takes someone, you know, someone I think like a Jehu who's not any model of, you know, perfect living or anything, but someone, all it takes really is the courage of Jehu setting aside the character. and who's willing to stand up to someone like Jezebel. And so that's why the courage is the one thing they have to stop, because courageous Christian men is really the kryptonite, I think, to so much of what is being pushed on the left today.
SPEAKER 06 :
But the key to that, the key to that courage and that conviction is the Word of God. And that's what we're going to talk about next with my battle buddy, Pastor Jack Gibbs. Casey, thanks so much for joining us. All right, folks, don't go away because on the other side of the break, we're going to talk about a report on the state of theology and what it could mean for the influx of churchgoers that we've seen since the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The issue is we have people looking for answers, but are they going to find them in the church? a church that increasingly is untethered to biblical truth. It's more influenced by the culture than influencing the culture with transcendent truth. We're going to talk about that. Pastor Jack Hibbs next, so don't go away.
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This is Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host. Glad to have you with us on this Wednesday. The website, TonyPerkins.com. Better yet, get the Stand Firm app in the App Store. All right, a little more than two weeks away, the PrayVote Stand Summit, Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills in California. I tell you what, now is the time to come together, and I encourage you to go to PrayVoteStand.org. PrayVoteStand.org. It's October 17th and 18th. You can find out more, and you can register at PrayVoteStand.org. Our word for today comes from 1 Corinthians 12. For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body being many are one body, so also is Christ. For in fact, the body is not one member, but many. If the foot should say, because I'm not a hand, I'm not of the body, is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say, because I'm not an eye, I'm not of the body, is it therefore not of the body? But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as he pleased. So Paul uses the human body to illustrate how the body of Christ functions. Each believer is a distinct part with a unique role, yet all are joined together as one. The foot, hand, eye, or ear cannot separate itself from the body simply because it looks or functions differently. In the same way, no believer is unnecessary or insignificant. Paul reminds us that it is God, not us, who assigns our place and role in the body. Our task is not to envy others or resist his design, but to faithfully serve where he's placed us, knowing that his arrangement pleases him. So, don't be a spiritual heel. fit into the body of Christ. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. That's Bible to 67742. All right, Lifeway Research and Ligonier Ministries have released their latest state of theology study, which tracks the beliefs of Americans with regard to God's nature, sin, the Bible, and a whole lot more. And while it's interesting to see where the general American public is when it comes to their theological beliefs, or lack thereof, what does the study reveal to us about the beliefs of American evangelicals? And what does it tell us about churches? and how they may be shaping those beliefs. Joining me now to discuss this and more is my battle buddy, Pastor Jack Hibbs, Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills in Southern California, and the host of this year's Pray, Vote, Stand Summit. Pastor Jack, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Tony.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so let's talk about this. There's a lot of discussion of people going back to church in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That's a good thing, but what are they going back to?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, exactly. You know, the trend is this, Tony. They were actually starting to go back even before Charlie's assassination and then, of course, it's escalated. You've asked the great question, what are they going back to? This is something that only time will tell. If people are going to church and they're not getting the Word of God, they're not systematically being discipled through the Word of God, maybe they're attending a church that has a lot of liturgical practices but no meat, meaning no Word. then what are we doing? We could be filling, Tony, a void of maybe a spiritual gap, but we're filling it with sugar matter type of a thing where it's not filling. The results are going to have to be observed over time when you're talking about church growth, instability. And then, of course, if we are having a revival, remember the word revival is reserved for the church alone, not for the world. And in that revival, there's going to have to be, every revival had holiness as a profound element of it. We shall see.
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I think we may be seeing, and you never really know if you've had a revival until it's over. You really don't see it in the midst of it. But I do see the evidence of an awakening. I mean, I think you see, I've been hearing this, as you mentioned, before this occurred. Our mutual friend, Pastor Carter Conlon, has been going on to Ivy League campuses and he's been preaching. And people, these young people who have never even heard the gospel are just flocking everywhere. to the altars. They don't even know what an altar is. They don't even know what to do. And he's walking them through this and they're receiving Christ being radically transformed. So that's an awakening. That's an awakening. That is happening. My concern is that when this awakening occurs, and I, again, believe it's happening, going into the churches, what will they find? Will they find orthodox, biblically anchored teaching or Or are they going to find more cultural, you know, being this cultural relevance that they tried to run from? Because it is emptiness. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tony, I'm with you, man. I'm kind of nervously laughing a little bit because here's the deal. You and I are concerned in such a way which we need to be and we need to pray, but I'm going through that same emotional gyration, and the answer is this. Jesus says, my sheep hear my voice, they'll follow me, and they are responding regarding awakening. Yes, we're watching it here at church. Unbelievers, nonbelievers are coming to faith in Christ. The concern is, where are they going to go to church? And that's where the Lord says to me, look, you teach the flock that I give you, but the bottom line is, Jack, I'm going to take care of my people. He will lead them to a church. It's his business to get them to a church. Your concern, Tony, and my concern is this, dear God in Heaven, please produce more Bible teaching churches.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. I mean, okay, I want to go through a few of these things on this survey. This is evangelicals now. This is not the world as a whole or all Americans. This is just the self-identified evangelical slice of Americans. 47% of evangelicals agree that God accepts the worship of all religions.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. No. I mean, if you read your Bible you would know that was not true. Unbelievable. That is, you know what that is? That is ecumenicalism shown on your screen there, 47%. That is the kumbaya. Let's have unity, Tony, instead of truth. But haven't we seen that? We'll sacrifice truth.
SPEAKER 06 :
Haven't we seen that in the evangelical church?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, we've already seen that show before, and it leads to nothing but disaster.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, here's another one. Fifty-three percent of evangelicals say everyone sins a little, but most people are good by nature.
SPEAKER 04 :
False again. Absolutely wrong. We are absolutely lost, and we are rebels. We're shaking our fist at God.
SPEAKER 06 :
They've not worked in the nursery.
SPEAKER 04 :
And nor have they worked in the church parking lot ministry.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, here's another one. Now let me move on to American adults, okay? This is one. 49% of U.S. adults believe that Jesus was a great teacher but not God. false, false. So this goes to, remember Jesus in, well, it's recorded in Luke, it's recorded in all the gospels, but Jesus, when he says, you know, follow me, deny yourself, take up your cross and follow me. In that same conversation in Luke chapter nine, he says, who do people say that I am? And some said, you know, Elijah, you know, this, this prophet, that prophet. And he says, but no, who do you say that I am? That is the key question. If he is God, you will follow him and you will serve him. If he is the Savior, the Messiah. If not, then he's just another figure from history.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, see, these numbers concern me greatly because you're really, Tony, you're talking about 47, 50 some odd percent of people that are actually now been inoculated against the truth. They think they have the truth and to them emotionally that feels good. You know, just be sincere about whatever it is that you believe and you'll be okay. That is probably akin to how Satan whispered to Eve in the garden. where that's deception. That's just absolute straight up deception. And then someone's going to say, well, you guys aren't very accommodating. Listen, we're taking our lead from Jesus. He said, broad is the way and many people are on the path of destruction. Narrow is the path and few people are on the path that leads to eternal life for situations and reasons just like you're articulating.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, you were talking about Satan and the deception in the garden. Jesus said, as the disciples asked, when's this going to happen? When are all these in-time things going to unfold? And Jesus says, you know, look, it's not for you to know times and dates. But this, he said, he said, do not be deceived. Multiple times. So this is what I see in this survey is that many Christians, evangelicals and let's put this the average american who does not go to a church who's not a believer let's put them aside for a moment let's just focus on the evangelicals many of them are deceived there's an antidote there is a vaccine that can keep you from being deceived
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah. All you got to do is pick up the Bible and start reading the Bible. The Holy Spirit, Jesus said it, the Spirit of God will bear witness of whatsoever I have taught you. If people would just pick up the Bible, start in John's Gospel, start reading it, and God will speak to you. He will actually begin to articulate his truth into your life, and he does it by the Word of God. And you know, you mentioned our friend Charlie Kirk earlier. What made Charlie's witness so attractive is that Charlie knew what he believed. And notice, as the years went on with Charlie, his work began to be more about advancing the gospel and inviting people to church than it was about political things. Why was he so passionate about that? Because he entered more consistently into the truth. Right. Tony, he knew where it was all at and it was with God and the word.
SPEAKER 06 :
And see, this is where I was talking about this earlier in the program. If you're in the word and the word is in you, you have conviction. And from that comes courage to stand against the culture and against the deception. All right. We just have about six minutes left. I want to. go to another question that was asked. This was just general questions asked. More than half of Americans, 54%, say they don't want religious beliefs to enter the political sphere. Okay, then whose beliefs, what beliefs do you want? If you don't want religious beliefs, what beliefs do you want?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you can look around at places like Minnesota. You can look at Michigan. You can see where there's been a very, very small representation of the church or none at all. And what happens? Islam has filled the void in this particular case. You can have whatever wishful thinking you want, but just know this. The other team is playing for keeps. They don't rest day or night and they won't stop until they take control. How do we hold back evil? We shine the light. What is the light? Again, the Word of God coming from us. We've got to get involved in the culture or else the culture is going to be taken by the other team and they're playing for keeps. We should do the same.
SPEAKER 06 :
It all goes back to the Word of God. And, folks, that's why I encourage you to join us in our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. We've got to be in the Word, even more so as we move toward the end of days. All right, I want to switch gears. We have about four minutes left. I want to switch gears to another survey or another study. It was Infinity Concepts in Gray Matter, and it's regarding Americans' views on Israel. And we see a consistency, they say, among older evangelicals. This is just focused on evangelicals. But younger evangelicals, only 29% of evangelicals under the age of 35 believe that Jews are God's chosen people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Those numbers are perfectly in line with everything else we've been talking about. The older generation has a greater appreciation for the Bible. They were taught predominantly by Bible-based pastors and churches that were orthodox. Now we've got a younger generation of people who have churchianity and they don't understand Israel because the new pastors predominantly by far do not teach the Old Testament. They do not understand. that if God doesn't keep his promise to Israel, he will not keep his promises to the church. They've somehow separated the old from the new, and if you do that, it will be very bad for you. And that explains it. The 35 years of age and under, 29%, listen, that's just in line with really a church today and a pulpit today that is manned by people who do not see the covenantal promises of God. They don't even know if the God that they worship keeps his word. And you can know if you just find out about what he said to Israel and what his future plans are for Israel.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, if the Lord tarries, and I'm trying not to be selfish. You and I talked about this a couple days ago. I'm praying for the Lord to return, but I want to bring as many unsaved people into the kingdom as possible. And so I don't want to be selfish and just trying to get out of here. But the reality is that If things continue and the church continues to slip in its understanding of Israel and of the Jewish people and the role that they have in the end times, I can see how it's going to get pretty ugly and Israel stands alone if America has this view that there's nothing special.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well Tony, we know this, Zechariah tells us that in the end all nations will go against Israel. all nations. The other thing is this, that we don't want that to happen on our watch.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, if the Lord gets us out of here and America goes against Israel, that's the way it's going to go. But I'd much rather get out of here. And you're right. Let's bring as many men and women and boys and girls with us as possible, which, by the way, Bible prophecy. First John, John said regarding Christ's return for the church, all those who have this hope purify themselves even as he is pure. So what we want to do, we want to get ready, and part of getting ready is bringing people with us.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
We want to be looking up, you know, and only in Christ can we do this. We want to plan for the next 100 years, but the great discipline is doing that and expecting to go home to see Jesus today. All right. That takes discipline. That takes discipleship.
SPEAKER 06 :
Pastor Jack, 45 seconds left. Tell people how they can join us in going to see Jesus.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Here's how you see Jesus. You see Jesus by calling out to Him for who He is. He is the Lord. He is the Christ. He's the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. He's the King of kings and the Lord of lords. The prophet said in Micah 5, verse 2, that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Guess what? Jesus was born in Bethlehem. The Bible tells us that he would be born of a virgin. Jesus was born of a virgin. The Bible tells us that he would be God come to earth in human flesh and die on the cross for our sins, and he did, and he rose again on the third day. He said, bury me, and in three days I'll be resurrected, and so he was. He's coming back, and you need to be looking for him. You can ask him into your life for this reason. He died for your sins. Give him your sins. Acknowledge your sins. He'll take those sins from you, clean your record by his blood, and give you everlasting life, and he'll transform your life. You'll have a reason to live. Do it. You will not regret it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Purpose and meaning will immediately come into your life. Pastor Jack Hibbs, my battle buddy, always great to see you, my friend. Great to see you, Tony. All right, brother. See you soon. And folks, I do encourage you, if you need the Lord, if you want that peace that will come in this time of turbulent uncertainty, it can only be found in Jesus. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, when you've prepared, and when you've taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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In this episode, our hosts tackle some of the most pressing issues faced by the nation today. From the heart-wrenching attack in Grand Blanc, Michigan, to the politically charged debate over government shutdowns, this episode provides a unique exploration of current events through a spiritual view. The conversation doesn't shy away from controversial topics, offering a candid examination of both the political and personal ramifications of these events. Alongside these discussions, the podcast highlights the efforts of organizations like Preborn and the benefits of SunPower LED therapy, showcasing the intersection of faith, health, and life preservation. Tune in for a deep dive into the topics that matter and the faith that binds us.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Well, welcome to another edition of the National Crawford Roundtable. My name is Neil Boron, host of Neil Boron Live on WDCX in Buffalo, New York. I'm one of three who host this podcast on a regular basis. Of course, Bob Duco, one of my colleagues in Detroit, Michigan. Bob is a longtime talk show host on WMUZ in Detroit. John Rush, the host of Rush to Reason in Denver, Colorado. He's the only hope for Colorado in the future. You know, let's just pray. Let's pray for that.
SPEAKER 04 :
One flickering candle in all of Colorado.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's the guy. My goodness. Anyway, we've got a lot to talk about today. The government shutdown. Let me just mention, as Bob often does, we record this podcast Wednesday mornings at 1030 a.m. Eastern Time. you know, when we're talking, things could change literally during the podcast, but sometimes within a day or two, you know, things we're discussing here have already changed or morphed into some other kind of news story. And just wanted to bring that up. But last night at midnight, allegedly the U.S. government, quote, shut down. And we'll talk about that. Also want to touch on Pete Hegseth and some of the directives he offered to major military leaders in uh in virginia assembling a group of them in quantico virginia for a major uh discussion about the future of the u.s military will it lean woke or not and of course i think you know where that's going but also hopefully later we'll touch on the fact that the nfl decided that bad bunny a puerto rican rapper will be the halftime entertainment but for reasons you know that we leave us scratching our heads we're going to talk about some of the details behind that and why they might think that was a good choice why we might think it isn't but anyway before we get to it bob you know on the heels of charlie kirk a heightened understanding that you know there's violence in various places church shootings uh religiously motivated shootings are becoming more common And you you had a there was a Mormon church, I believe, in your listening area that encountered a shooter just recently. And I wondered if you could kind of bring us up to speed on that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure. Well, this was in Grand Blanc, Michigan, which is certainly very well within the listening area. As a matter of fact, when when this shooting happened. on Sunday morning at the Mormon church, I was actually speaking at another church about 15, 20 minutes away at the very same time. And then interestingly enough, the very closest church to this Mormon church, the closest church to them, which is about two miles down the road, happens to be where I'm speaking this Sunday morning. They're in Grand Blanc as well. But yeah, this is just a horrible tragedy. This gunman, Thomas Jacob Sanford, drives his truck into the church through the walls, pours a bunch of gasoline out there, sets the church on fire, gets out his gun and just starts shooting people, killing people. He shot 10 people, two of them died, eight of them recovering. There are two other bodies that were recovered from the fire. So ultimately he killed four people. Police get there and they kill him in a shootout. So, you know, number one, my big thing is that everybody needs to be praying for those families and the grief and the loss and everything else that they're going through that's horrendous. I mean, I've talked about Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses and some of these cults, you know, on my show before, and certainly Mormonism itself. I would argue, is a false religion. It is, okay? But to me, that's not the focus here. The focus here is that these people need our prayer and that they are suffering immensely. And my heart just goes out to them for what they're experiencing right now. Mormon people have always been some of the nicest people I've ever met. I've said this on my own show for years. While I'm calling out the false teachings of Joseph Smith, I said, but the Mormon people, if I'm stuck on the side of the road with a car broken down, I'd almost rather have a Mormon family drive by than have the Christians, because the Mormons are going to be the first ones to stop and help. So they're very decent people. And as a matter of fact, the church members have raised more than $150,000 for the family of the shooter in this case. But I also want to say that while the liberal left may be high-fiving each other that this shooter appears to be a quote-unquote right-wing guy, had a couple of American flags on his truck, he signed a petition, a pro-life petition for Right to Life of Michigan. He signed another petition to restrict Gretchen Whitmer during COVID and the things that she could do. And he's posted images of him as a hunter and him wearing a Trump shirt and a Trump 2024 sign on his property. So all of that. But the truth is, I don't see anything to suggest that this is motivated by political ideology. It appears that he had a hatred of Mormons themselves. and even referred to them as, quote, the Antichrist. And he dated a Mormon girl when he lived in Utah and had problems with her family and everything else. And so it sounds as though he, as a guy that snapped in his hatred for Mormonism, went after them for that purpose, and that this is not some example of so-called right-wing violence. It's just not. His politics doesn't appear to have any play in this whatsoever. But It's a horrible tragedy, and these families are suffering immensely. And we need to show the love of Christ, the true Jesus of Scripture, to the people of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mormonism. That's kind of my take on it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, no, I don't mean to leave John out of this. We'll bring you into the conversation in a bit, John. But Bob, you're an apologist. You spend a lot of time, especially when you're doing public speaking, defending the Christian faith, et cetera. To reiterate what you were saying a moment ago, this doesn't appear to be a politically motivated shooting. It's more like an anti-Mormon thing, potentially because of his encounter with that girl that he was dating who was a Mormon. And you were telling us before the program began that apparently, You know, things didn't go well between him and her family and all of that. That could have had something to do with it. But I've been noting, you know, that when people are in the media, a lot of the talking heads are saying that there's increased violence against Christians. Number one, I agree that's a true statement. But on the other hand... I wouldn't consider Mormonism part of the Christian faith for the reasons you alluded to. And so really it's not just targeted attacks, increased targeted attacks against Christians, but I would say Christians and conservatives. Would you agree?
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. There certainly is. In this particular case, I think we have to caution both sides. We have to caution the left not to try to turn this into a political attack and an example of right-wing extremism because the politics don't appear to have anything to do with this. But on the conservative side and on the Christian side, we've got to be careful not to say, oh, this is another example of somebody just targeting Christians and just thinking that Mormons are Christians and lumping them in with Christians to be attacked. That's not the case either. This guy appears to – he referred to Mormonism as the Antichrist. So it doesn't appear that he saw himself as targeting Christians. Christians in general. He saw himself targeting Mormons specifically. And so it has nothing to do with politics, but it's also not a general attack on quote unquote Christians. It doesn't appear to be. It appears... And by the way, I got to say too... With the right and the left, I've never seen any kind of anti-Mormon specifically ideology flowing through any of it. I mean, you could argue if this guy shot and targeted, we'll say, a gay nightclub or something. or a pro-abortion center. Theoretically, we could say, okay, it might be ideologically driven there. But I don't know about you guys, but I don't know any born-again believers in Christ who tend to be politically conservative. who have a strong animosity toward Mormon people. We may, especially as Christian apologists, may call out the teachings of Joseph Smith and Mormonism and why they're not really a true Christian denomination. We may do that, but I haven't seen any kind of animosity toward Mormon people woven into the flavor of the quote-unquote Christian right at all. So I think this guy was just targeting them specifically and not quote-unquote Christians.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and for the record, Trump took Utah, almost entirely Mormon state, in 2016, 2020, and 2024. So a lot of support for Trump there. And in that sense, it doesn't make any sense if this guy's wearing a Trump shirt and so forth that he'd be taking the life of a Mormon or Mormon people for political reasons. We can talk more about that, but by God's grace, we're able to have these kinds of conversations on a regular basis here on the National Crawford Roundtable because of the support of our incredible sponsors. And I wanna draw your attention to SunPower LED. We've been talking about this and I'm getting more questions in my inbox on a regular basis saying, can the light God created really be used to reduce pain and swelling and promote healing in our bodies? And the answer to that is yes. I mean, light has power. We derive quite a bit of vitamin D from sunlight and light makes plants grow, et cetera. And just like sound waves have power, light has power. And so what happens is certain wavelengths of red and near infrared light get deep into the human body using the technology created by SunPower LED. They excite the mitochondria in our cells, which is in many ways like recharging the batteries in an electronic device. All of a sudden, the cell wakes up, comes back to life, and starts doing what the cell was created to do. So if you have pain or need healing, you want to see wounds recover quicker, watch what light therapy can do for you. It's unbelievable. And everything from tinnitus to back pain to ongoing headaches, light therapy is a tremendously effective way to deal with pain and swelling in the human body, and it's a wonderful way to promote healing. And by the way, if you use the promo code ROUNDTABLE10, if you order a device, ROUNDTABLE10 will save you 10%. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on SunPowerLED, S-U-N like sun in the sky, SunPowerLED at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. And by the way, when you're there, I encourage you to check out Preborn, another one of our major sponsors. Bob, they've been such a help to us here at National Crawford Roundtable.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thanks, Bob. John, we didn't ask you about the shooting. I want to give you a chance to respond in whatever way you see fit. But I also wondered if it caught your attention, like it caught mine, that this idea of raising money Donating money, raising money for the family of the shooter is a real demonstration of forgiveness. In other words, the shooter lost his life, took the lives of others. But in demonstrating forgiveness, there's an effort to reach out and show love, which is what Erica Kirk wrote. mentioned at the memorial service for her husband, Charlie, the idea that forgiveness matters, and she forgave the shooter that allegedly took her husband's life. So I don't know if you caught that as well, but it seems like kindness and love
SPEAKER 01 :
can be infectious and uh your thoughts about what we witnessed just the other day yeah i talked about this a little bit earlier in the week as bob did and have the same feelings that bob has as far as the motivation of and again i don't i don't know the exact motivation other than mentally ill people do really weird things and would i say that he's mentally ill yes anybody that has that much hatred towards some group of people which in this case you know he did not like mormons at evident in what he did, which to Bob's point, that's not the culture of the conservative right on the political sides of things. So in fact, even Christians that may not agree with that particular faith, I guess would be the way to say that. I've never met anybody in my entire life that wanted to go out and annihilate another group of people. And by the way, guys, even as much as I disagree with the Muslim faith, I would not go, even though they want to kill me, I'm not out to kill them. That's the difference between what we believe in as Christians versus what they believe in. So our side of the aisle, for all of those leftists that may be out there listening to us that would say, well, see, he's just one of you. No, not politically speaking, he's not. Or politically speaking, he may be on our side as far as who he voted for and all of that, but his ideology and the way he looks at, in this case, the Mormon faith, no, that is not the way our side looks at things, guys. Not at all. Not even close.
SPEAKER 03 :
Appreciate your input on that. So I mentioned the government shutdown situation, which at the time of this recording is effectively happening. Never exactly sure what that looks like and what it's going to mean. I mean, different things at different times, I'm sure. But either way, non-essential items of government activity are on hold right now. And it looks like there's an opportunity here for the Trump administration to further cut back on excess in the workforce. And so there's a lot of eyes on the situation right now. And you wonder, does anyone really win in the end? These kinds of things happen on a regular basis. In this particular case, it seems to me like Donald Trump and the Trump administration have the upper hand forcing the Democrats to vote against continuing resolution that would have kept the government funded for at least another seven weeks while they work out their differences on this funding bill. But I don't know, Bob, I'm sure you must have discussed this at some point on your program. Let's start with you. What are your thoughts about what's happening currently?
SPEAKER 04 :
This is absolutely the Schumer shutdown. It is. And the thing is, regarding Democrats and Republicans, I know that sometimes people in the middle or that aren't inside politics, they just look at it like, oh, you know, Republicans say this, Democrats say that. Why can't they just get along? But here's what we've got to remember. The Republicans are not trying to slash spending like actually they really do need to do. All they're saying is we're going to maintain the status quo that the Democrats already voted 13 times to approve in the Biden administration. It's the Democrats who are saying, no, we want more. We want extra. We want about one and a half trillion. trillion dollars in increased spending that goes above and beyond what we've already agreed to in the past. And this is where the Republicans are saying, how much more of a compromise do you want? We're willing to say we'll keep you guys Democrat approved spending levels. We'll keep that. OK, well, we're just not going to add to it. What Mike Johnson and the GOP should be saying is we're overspending already. The Biden era spending levels were too high. We need to scale those back. They're saying we won't even scale those back. Let's just keep that. Democrats, nope. You know what we want? We want the Obamacare extensions, the special health care under Obamacare that included illegal aliens, that this was temporarily added during COVID. Nope. We want that to be extended as well. even though that was set to expire because COVID has expired. Nope, we want that too. So Republicans are like, hold on a minute here. We're supposed to give you guys not only your current Biden era spending without cutting that, we're supposed to extend to that health insurance paid by the taxpayer for illegal aliens. We're supposed to approve additional billions of dollars in funding for DEI and climate change projects, not here in America, but in foreign countries. It's like, give me a break. And by the way, even the New York Times took a poll asking Americans, do you agree or disagree with the stance that Democrats are taking? Two thirds to one third said Democrats are wrong. in this case. And that's the New York Times in their poll. So I think Americans are seeing the Republicans are being very reasonable in this case. Democrats who don't even have control are so audacious as to say, nope, this is what we expected. We're folding our arms because I think that they think that a government shutdown will backfire on the people in charge, the Republicans like Trump, and that maybe that will turn the rudder of the ship back toward the Democrats as far as momentum goes. I think that's what their strategy is. I don't think it's
SPEAKER 03 :
I think honestly, I think in the past that would have worked because the legacy media had the ear of the American people. But that's all changed. And I don't believe that people across the board are automatically going to believe whatever Chuck Schumer says about the Republicans. John, I've got to get you in on this. Wondering what your thoughts are.
SPEAKER 01 :
I think this is a big backfire as far as strategy goes for the left. I think they're thinking that when they get into the next election cycle, 2026, the midterms, that this is somehow going to help them. And look at what we did. Look at how we tried to fight to get the things that the Republicans took away from you. And I think what people will realize is, well, wait a minute, my daily life wasn't affected one way or the other. I mean, yes, there's going to be some of those hardcore on the left that are going to believe that and do that no matter what. But That middle-of-the-road voter, which we talk about all the time, which both parties need, by the way, to succeed. Without them, you don't win. And I think, Neil, to your point, they don't have the media like they once had. They don't have the same tools in their toolbox they once had, meaning I think at the end of the day – and frankly, I think Chuck Schumer knows this, by the way. I think he realizes that this is a really stupid move on our part. But his hand is being forced, I think, by some of the people that are in charge, if you would, meaning that he's doing this just because of what he's being told. But I think – and I may be wrong in this, but I think deep down inside he's thinking this is political suicide. Why are we going down this path? Because at the end of the day, this is going to do nothing but harm us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and it becomes absurd at some point to think if it's not working, why do you keep doing it? And if this ultimately is going to bring harm – For what reason would you continue to push the same agenda? But it's apparently the strategy that they're employing right now, and I don't think it's working. Bob, you shared that stat a moment ago that two-thirds – did you say two-thirds of the American people are against what the Democrats are trying to do here?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's incredible. Fox News is running a story on this. It was the – It was a New York Times Siena poll. OK, they say indicates voters would. Let's see. They would blame both of them, of course. But when you look at the poll and ask, I want to see the exact numbers here. OK, let's see. OK. Question in the poll. Should Democrats shut down the government? even if their demands are not met, their demands for the extra stuff. 65% said no, they should not. 27% said yes, they should. So you've got just about two-thirds, one-third, actually a little stronger than that, saying Democrats are basically overreaching. This is not a shut down the government to meet your demands kind of thing. And even among Democrats themselves in the poll, just Democrats, it's only 47% to 43% of Democrats that say, go ahead and shut down the government if these demands aren't met. Only 32% of independents say this is worthy of shutting down the government, what the Democrats are demanding. And then 5% of Republicans, whoever those people are, say that. So it appears the Republicans, the legacy media has not done a good enough job censoring airtight the facts about what the Democrats are doing from seeping out. through conservative social and alternative media, because Americans are rejecting this. So yeah, I think it backfires on the Democrats.
SPEAKER 03 :
On the heels of Doge, which cut back, of course, on the US workforce related to people in government positions, It looks as though there's the possibility that this could also lead to additional cutbacks and that this might be a very strategic way for Republicans to further reduce the size of government. But at some point, you've got to realize that the people who have those jobs are voters themselves. And, John, let me throw it to you this time. If enough people lose their jobs and they happen to be swing voters or conservative voters, is there any point at which people say, I'm tired of this administration? Because some may, you know, playing footloose and fancy free with my livelihood and the security of my family. And that's it. I'm done. Could this backfire in that sense and cost?
SPEAKER 01 :
okay why i don't think so and the reason i say that is because there are some conservatives that work inside government don't get me wrong i've met some of them and so i'm not saying that there might not be a little bit of what you just said going on neil but by and large the majority of government workers are on the left-hand side of the aisle and i've no i know this because i've I've met them, I've been around them, and I think, Bob, you would probably agree. Neal, I don't know how many folks inside government you have met over the years, but the reality is I have not met too many that are on the right side of the aisle. They pretty much get bought into, you know, this is the thing that's feeding me, and we need more funding, and the Democrats do a better job of that than anybody, so the reality is I'm going to stick my vote on the left. Again, I may be wrong and it may be an 80-20 rule in that way, but honestly, I don't know that it's even that low. In other words, I think it's more like 90-10 when it's all said and done, the amount of liberals in government versus conservatives. And Bob, I'll get your opinion on that. But again, I don't think that's a big factor in this case because most of the government workers are liberals.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we got about a minute, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would tend to agree. I don't think I'd go as hard as 90-10, but I do believe that there's way more liberalism out there. And even those that are so-called conservative Republicans, especially in the House, they got to get elected every year. So as soon as they get reelected, their reelection campaign starts immediately because every two years they're up for reelection again. And I do believe that there is a fear that they have of if you scale back expenses in any way, if we try to govern within our means financially, then their political opponents, the Democrats, are going to go, look at you taking food away from children and all the kind of dishonest claims that they do. And so I think a lot of Republicans are just afraid of that. So they have no choice but to say, let's just keep running up the credit card debt, running up the credit card debt, and I'll be retired once this thing explodes. So I hate to say it, but I think that's a lot of what happens here. How do you convince Americans that you can't keep running up credit card debt and raising the debt ceiling and not realize that someday this is going to hurt. We're paying a trillion dollars a year in interest. It's insane.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. And like literally 10 seconds for each of you. But do the Republicans work to push a continuing resolution through, try to get those votes to temporarily fund the government or let this ride out for the very reasons we just described that it would cost the Democrats? John, 10 seconds.
SPEAKER 01 :
Let it ride out. Let it cost the Democrats. All right, Bob, your thoughts?
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree there. It's an opportunity to reduce the size of government. And then when you start replacing government spending, don't do it as much.
SPEAKER 03 :
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