Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Freedom of Speech. Former Colorado Representative Don Beezly joins guest host Brad Beck and Georgetown Professor Jonathan Turley to discuss Turley’s latest book The Indispensable Right: Freedom of Speech in an Age of Rage. Laura Carno shares how the Faster Program can keep kids safe at school. Colorado Representative Dan Woog explains why he is running for reelection. State Farm agent Roger Mangan addresses auto liability coverage. Jody Hinsey with Mint Financial Strategies notes the importance in discipline regarding your finances. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560 AM every Monday thru Friday, 6-8 AM MST. You can listen to the live stream by going to www.klzradio.com
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Hello, Colorado, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. The voice you hear is not a frog in the throat of Kim Monson. This is Bradley Beck. Kim's out for a couple days, and I have the great honor of sitting in her chair and doing today's show. And as Kim always says, let's have a conversation. Thank you for listening. Each of you are treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. We were made for this moment. And thank you to all the good people here at Crawford Broadcasting and the team that Kim has to work with. And in particular, producer Joe. Joe, how are you doing this morning? I'm doing well, Brad. How are you? I am doing unbelievable. And it's a great day in Colorado. It's good to see your smiling face. And thanks for letting us in the door. And in the studio with me is my friend and former Colorado House District 33 representative, it's easy for me to say, the Honorable Don Beasley. Don, how are you this morning?
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Hey, I'm good, Brad. How are you today?
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I'm doing unbelievable. I just am so excited to be here. I always enjoy being on the radio and interacting with people I know. And so it's always good to see you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, there's nothing better than waking up with Brad Beck to talk about freedom and opportunity and prosperity early in the morning.
SPEAKER 11 :
When we go back to 2008-9 when we were in the leadership program of the Rockies together and we got a chance to get to know each other and that was a great experience. And you ran for HD33 and asked me to be part of your campaign and it was a great experience.
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Yeah, it was. And we made a real difference for a couple of years there in terms of splitting power in Colorado and putting the brakes on some things that no longer have brakes on them. And we see what is happening here in our beautiful, beloved state of Colorado.
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Exactly. Well, we knocked on a lot of doors. We got a lot of good stories. So we can share some of those as we go along here today. Sure. And the website that Kim has, KimMonson.com, you can sign up for her weekly email newsletter. You can get the first look at all our upcoming guests and recent essays. I write several of those essays once a month and really enjoy. And you can always email Kim at KimMonson.com. And Kim could not be successful with this great show with her wonderful sponsors. And we'd like to say thank you to the Harris family for the gold sponsorship of the show. And to thank Hooters Restaurants for their sponsorship. You know, they have three locations here in Colorado, Don. Aurora, Westminster, and Loveland. It sounds like we might go to lunch there. Yeah, we might want to catch one of those. They have great lunch specials Monday through Friday for dine-in or to-go. Wednesdays are wing days. You buy 20 wings and get additional 10 for free. Offer is for to-go or dine-in. Hooters Restaurant's a great place to get together with friends and watch your favorite teams. So, Don, Kim likes to always have a word of the day, and I chose this one from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, and it's sagacious. Let me spell it. S-A-G-A-C-I-O-U-S. It's an adjective. S-A-G-A-C-I-O-U-S. And the definition is having or showing understanding and the ability to make good judgments, having keen discernment, good judgment, farsightedness. And used in a sentence, her sagacious comments provided clarity in the discussion. So if you get a chance today, use that word and improve your vocabulary and your ability to interact with people. So sagacious is the word of the day.
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Well, we're going to strive to be sagacious here this morning together, Brad. I think we're going to hit that one.
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I hope so. And then the quote of the day I picked from a gentleman who I've read a lot about and read many of his books, Samuel Longhorn Clemens, who was born November 30th, 1835. He died on April 21, 1910, and we know him by his pen name, Mark Twain. He was an American writer, a humorist, and an essayist. He was praised as being the greatest humorist of the United States by William Faulkner, calling him the father of the American literature. Twain's novels include The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and its sequel, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, both great books. And he said, quote, There is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress. End of quote. So it's great. Mark Twain, Samuel Clemens. And that kind of reminds me of where we are today in the headlines, because there's a lot of things going on, not only around the country and around the world, but here in Colorado. And for those who didn't know, on Saturday, the Colorado Republican Central Committee met to vote on whether to change from a nominating candidates through the primary election to nominating them through the assembly or convention. And the statute mandates that at least three-fourths of the total membership of the party's state central committee vote to do so. And the chairman of the Colorado GOP, Britta Horn, put on her Facebook page that statement. And, you know, it's interesting that the state GOP continues with some factions, and it seems like The grassroots and the quote money class or the elite keep fighting amongst themselves rather than shooting out. They are shooting in. Don, what are your what are your thoughts on, you know, how this sausage making internal process has been the last few years?
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Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit frustrating, I think, to observe what's going on in the Republican Party as they decide how they want to move forward. And you and I talked a little bit that, underline it all, at some point there has to be a coherent message. That has to be the objective of the party is how do we message, how do we communicate a better way for Colorado to go forward and be prosperous for everyone? and have that coherent message be consistently delivered and stop shooting inward, as you say, and start shooting outward so that we can communicate more effectively with Colorado, which I still believe is an essentially quasi-conservative state. I think it's a fiscally conservative state, but certainly socially moderate to liberal. And the challenge for the party is to not fight about these mechanisms, but to figure out how do we craft a message that is relevant for Coloradans today that helps us move towards a more limited government, more ownership and freedom for ourselves, and as a result, every single time, more prosperity for people in Colorado from all walks of life.
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You know, it's interesting as you say that, what goes through my mind is if you were to ask the average Coloradan, you know, on the street, man on the street kind of interview, and ask them what does the Colorado GOP stand for, you're going to get probably a blank stare because I don't know what the party's platform is Right now is I know what it should be. And I'd like to say it's based on principles, the ideas of human equality, natural rights, consent to the governed, all the things that we believe in. And I think at one time all parties believed in. But I don't know what their message is. Do you?
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I don't. And, you know, that comes back to that driving that coherent message and being able to find those principles that we should all be able to agree on, that we do want a more limited, controlled government. And, you know, I'm going through doing my or recently did my continuing education for my real estate license. And it was hard to get through because it was so outrageous because they have the responsibility through that continuing ed to let you know what's gone on in the legislature and what's changed within the realm of real estate and the things that affect it. I'm a business broker. I help people sell their companies, but real estate is part of that. And there are so many things in there that affect landlords, for example, that you have to ask yourself, who actually owns this property? Do I own the property or does the government own this property? I mean, it really is Marxist equity-driven ideas. And while we're shooting inward... that's what's going on in our state. And of course, there's practical effects of it. It reduces investment in real estate and housing and drives up costs and all those kind of things that, you know, they sound nice, but they end up hurting everybody. And those things are going on. And that's just two examples out of tens of thousands of examples in this state, especially over the last five or six years as these kind of Super majorities by Democrats have taken us down really negative roads across all environments, not just the business environment, but business, education, our personal lives, what we have the right to do or not to do, whether we're going to be criminally penalized for dead naming someone, those kinds of things. And it's just a very perverse environment that should rally people that want justice. Reason and rationality and reality and limited government and opportunity and prosperity. We should be able to rally around those core ideas that we can all agree on. And that should become the message for the Republican Party.
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I totally agree. Well, and to that point, I just received my state 2025 state ballot information booklet for the November 4th, 2025 statewide election. And as usual, the information in here is clear as mud. And I don't know if you've had a chance to really look at it, but there are two statewide ballot initiatives or maybe something locally where you are in your jurisdiction. But real quickly, I wanted just to mention that there is LL to retain and spend state revenue exceeding the estimate for Proposition FF. so it's almost a Rubes cube, and MM to increase state taxes for school meals and food assistant programs. And as I read both of these, Don, it just is more confusing. All I can gather from it is the government wants to tax you more and keep it and not give you the opportunity to make choices. They both sound nice, and we want to do more for children, but my goodness, when is enough enough?
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Well, and I'd be willing to bet the first three words in the description are without raising taxes, which, of course, then they're going to tell you how they're going to get more revenue. Right. And it is an increase in taxes. And, of course, they're going to try to divide people against each other and say that it's, I believe in there, it's a threshold of $300,000 in income. So people over that amount don't get their TABOR refunds or it's retained in some other way. And that's divisive. And I've had years where I've made more than that. I've had years where I've made less than that. In the years I make less, I don't want other people to be penalized. And the state government budget is the largest it's ever been in history. And yet they're saying they don't have enough money to go do what they're doing, so maybe they shouldn't be doing so many things and practice a little bit of fiscal sanity.
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Well, and trying to help people where they don't need help, and that's always a problem. You know, we have great sponsors here that do solve problems, and one of those is Roger Mangan and his great way of doing business.
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And I'm talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And, Roger, auto coverage is important. It's important that people understand this. So unpack this a bit for us.
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Why, that's a good question. When you get your auto policy renewal bill from your company and you look at it, normally you look at the bottom line and say, wow, my premium's $1,000 this six months for this wonderful car I own. And it's gone up from $800 to $1,000 over the last probably two years. There have been significant rate increases on the auto side as well as on the homeowner side. But we're talking auto today. So what I'd like to do is maybe educate you without... Speaking down at you, but a lot of people really don't take the time to study what I'm going to share now. So the first item of, and there are 10 items normally in an insurance policy, an auto insurance policy that impact your rate. probably the most important for you would be liability coverage. And when someone says $250,000 or $100,000, they say that in one fell breath, and people go, oh, okay, well, let's go back. That first $250,000 is $250,000, and the second $500,000 is the same amount claim the maximum that will be paid on that claim. If you get sued, this public liability I'm talking about now is what is going to protect you and your lifetime assets that you've accrued. The last number, the $100,000, so $250,000, $500,000, $100,000, the last $100,000 is property damage that you may cause as a result of your negligence. Now, let's say you do get sued and you have $250,000, $500,000, $100,000. Now, you know what that means. And you get sued for $300,000 by one individual in a car accident that you are liable for. Most cases, claims, never go to the jury unless they're severe or long holdouts for some reason. So let's say you do get sued for $300,000. That's $50,000 more than you have coverage for. So that $50,000, you're going to have to pay. I assume a jury decides your claim is worth $300,000, your insurance company pays $250,000. And I'll talk a little bit about what they pay when I say they'll pay later. But that extra $50,000 is going to come out of your assets. Could be savings. Could be a home equity loan you have to take out because you don't have enough savings. Could be your investment account, your equities are subject to attachment. Your 401k or your IRA are protected by ERISA, Public Employee Retirement Act. So they can't touch your 401k, but they will if... You start taking the money out and the lawsuit is still going on to pay for that deficit, that $50,000 deficit. Normally they'll arrange a payment with you, a payment schedule, to reimburse that $50,000. So they're not going to come knocking on your door and want $50,000 tomorrow. Well, first of all, if you get sued... We want to make sure your defense costs are being paid for, and that's what the policy does. Medical expenses incurred by the person you injured has to be paid. If they do not have medical insurance and their medical bills run up to $200,000, you're in deep trouble. Pain and suffering is another part of what they will pay on your behalf. Pain and suffering, that's a wide-open one. Maybe the pain is your back was injured severely. So they'll put a monetary value on the pain and suffering over a period of time. And the period of time can be very long. And that could be a very big number as well. Loss of wages. If you hit me, I can't work. My employer doesn't have any kind of benefit for me in that regard. And I lose, I can't work for three years and I'm making $100,000 a year. $300,000 is going to be paid for by your 250, 500, 100 policy. I think you're getting the message. $250,000 really isn't enough. And we talked about umbrella policies before, but an umbrella liability policy overlays your auto insurances, the entire family, as well as your home, and it'll pay an extra million dollars or two or four million, whatever you want to buy. And you buy according to your net worth and your asset base. So as far as property damage, the last one, the $100,000, it includes damage to property that is lost as a result of your negligence. So if you hit my car and it's a $40,000 car and it's totaled, you owe $40,000 to me to replace that car. And... I'm going to get back to the $500,000 for a minute. I skipped over that quickly. But $250,000, $500,000, $100,000, that $500,000 applies to all the people in that car at the time of that claim. So if I have three people in that car and all of them sue me in excess, let's say all sued me for $200,000, that's $600,000. So the $250,000 hasn't been breached, $200,000 each person. But the sum total of that claim has been breached. That $500,000 is short $100,000. So that is out of your hide or out of your pocket. So you really need to talk to your insurance agent about this line of coverage, which is probably one of the most expensive lines of coverage on your policy.
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And an umbrella policy, then, is something to talk about to augment that.
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Absolutely. Okay. Everybody... should have an umbrella don't rationalize not and that's going to cost you maybe 25 a month so let's say 300 a year depending on how many drivers um how your your net worth uh so two million is probably going to be around five or six hundred dollars a year you have to decide but keep in mind this community called The Denver Metro is growing exponentially. Driving downtown to work or driving over to see Kim today, I have seen a lot of drivers that I'm playing defensive driving all the time nowadays.
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So that is why people should give you a call. What's that phone number for the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team?
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303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. You got it. Awesome. Okay, thanks. I wanted to be Kim to the point. All right.
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And welcome back. I'm Bradley Beck filling in for Kim Monson today. Check out Kim's Web site at Kim Monson dot com. And you always can email her at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. And thank you for contributing to support Kim's independent voice and exercise our right to freedom of speech. And you know, through all of Kim's work with veterans, she's honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and all that they're doing to raise money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden, Colorado at 6th and Colfax. Paula Saris is the president of the foundation. She's a Marine veteran and a Gold Star wife. Paula and her team are working diligently to make the remodel a reality. And you can help by donating to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And on the line with us, we have Colorado representative for House District 19, a friend of mine. He's a father. He's a two-time trustee for the town of Erie, where I reside. And he's running again for HD19. Dan Woog, good morning.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good morning, Brad. Thanks for having me on. It's great to be here.
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Well, it's great to have you on, Dan, and appreciate your time. Tell our listeners where HD19 is and then why you're running for that office.
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Sure. HD19 covers all of Firestone, Frederick, Dekono, and Erie, and then it covers a sliver of Longmont just east of Pace Road. It's Weld County and Boulder County, so obviously Erie's both Weld and Boulder County. It's got the entire town of Erie, so there's a significant amount of Boulder County as far as density and numbers, and then also the eastern part of Longmont there. So it is a mix, and it's... It's a seat that actually Kamala Harris won by 8.6%. So the fact that I'm in here is kind of a small miracle, but we had a lot of help last campaign and hope to have it again. So I'm, you know, I'm running bread. It takes me back. And thanks for mentioning that as a trustee in here, it takes me back to that point where. I first got into politics in the town of Erie as it was growing and thinking, oh, this is going to be a lot of fun, just listening to the people and kind of helping develop the town the way the residents saw fit. And I quickly realized, especially as a small business owner, that So much regulation that's thrust upon businesses, small businesses, large businesses, really hurts those businesses, especially me as a small property management owner. So I just realized, wow, this is affecting me. And I'm, of course, passing the cost to my customers because I have no other choice. That just is rampant, and especially in the state of Colorado. So more than anything, I just saw that so many legislators, unfortunately, can get greedy. And it's really the reality is it's mostly the Democrat Party right now, and they just want to find ways to increase the revenue stream. And a lot of times that's at the expense of businesses and residents alike.
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Dan, can you tell what you stand for versus your opponent in this race? Why should people consider you over them?
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Yeah, absolutely. You know, I will say I hate the term politician, and I have done this for a few years now that I've been a trustee and a state legislator. But I do know that it helps to just kind of know how things are working in the statehouse and kind of who to look out for it. Um, and who to make friends with that kind of thing. I don't know a lot about my opponent. Now I know she has a primary, but I do believe it will be the lady I ran against the last time. And, um, I've been told from others when she does get in rooms full of other, you know, current legislators that in her party, she definitely falls way, way to the left. Um, It just seems, Brad, that, and I've seen this again, I've had three years now in the state capitol, and the Democrats do fall in line. I mean, there are a select few that tend to be a little more business friendly, but the reality is I have seen them change their votes. I've seen them, whether it's in committee or even on the floor for, you know, third vote from second vote, they change their votes. So they definitely fall in line, and I don't see anything different from her. I'm just going to continue to uphold the values I carry and try to lower the cost of living and really focus also on public safety because we've really struggled there. Our state's number two now as far as worst state for safety. And just the amount of regulation we impose here has gone through the roof. So I know we're one of the most heavily regulated states as well. And again, that just increases the cost of living for everyone.
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Well, in studio with me, if you haven't heard earlier, I have Don Beasley, former representative of the House of HD33. And Don's kind of gone through that territory before and has his campaign actually for two years helped stop some of the craziness down there. Don, do you have any words of sage advice for Dan?
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Sure. And Dan, thanks so much for what you're doing and for running again. Really appreciate it. You know, you just mentioned kind of what you see in the voting patterns or the direction they go. And one of the things that I've observed, and I want to see if you're seeing this with your more active involvement, is It seems like what I call the Democrat next door, which is no different than you and me, right? They want to have safe neighborhoods, good schools, good jobs, those kinds of things. I don't think they understand how much their party has changed and that the folks that are even in the 15 years since I was in there, or 13 years, it seems like the more radical activists are the ones that have kind of risen up through the Democrat party and are becoming those representatives. But the Democrat next door doesn't really understand that it's not a Democrat that reflects their values. Do you observe that?
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Yeah, I absolutely do. And thanks, Don. I truly try and be careful at saying, oh, it's all the Democrats' fault, because I think all of us obviously have family members that are Democrats, and we also know Democrats like my two grandfathers, late grandfathers, that believed in a lot of the same things we do, like you just mentioned. So it's very unfortunate. I won't say who, but one Democrat told me in a closed-door meeting about a bill, working on a bill, and they said, you know, They really, you know, the people in my party really have no clue what's happening outside these walls. And that was just, I mean, that really made my eyes the size of saucers and my ears perk up. And I felt that way, but to hear someone in the party say that, you know, I just, it was really telling. Yes, it's just so unfortunate. But here's my optimism. I do believe there are those Democrats, like you just mentioned, that have so much more in common with me. Smaller government, less regulation, get rid of these fees that are really hurting people and creating issues with society. you know them being able to save for their kids future them being able to take their kids on vacation even pay their high utility bills so um we just there are those people and i i do believe in them and um and and same with unaffiliated voters that obviously i think we're going to get more that lean right i just i worked so hard last campaign and i'll do the same i just getting out there and talking to people and uh and keeping it civil you know i always respect and listening i think that's what's I've gotten better at as a legislator for HD19, which is so, we'll say a purple seat compared to a previous seat I served that was way more conservative, is that i've just really learned to become a better listener and and let people talk and uh and and maybe we disagree on some stuff but i do try to find stuff we agree on and guess what oftentimes we find those things so um i think more now than ever we need that i mean obviously we just see this world and uh our country going through so much violence right now and hateful rhetoric and uh We just need to lower this temperature and have some respect on both sides, and I sure hope we will. And that's what I will do going forward, especially on this campaign.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, Dan, what are your closing thoughts, and where can people get more information about your campaign?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, first off on that, woog4hd19.com is my website. That's w-o-o-g-f-o-r-h-d-19.com, woog4hd19.com. and there's information on there i would love some help it will be an expensive campaign and the reality is we we need especially in seats like mine it's going to be a targeted seed because it was so close last time i won by only 110 votes so i know the democrats are going to put a lot more into it so uh donations and even volunteering you can get on that site and submit a notice that says you want to volunteer as well so i would love to help um in closing just i i think we need to have great optimism and it's just reiterating what i said Just staying above the fray and keeping, you know, eliminating the hateful rhetoric and just treating people as people. I do think so many Coloradans, and we've seen that, especially on votes that support Tabor, we've seen that Coloradans have common sense. Whether people want to say we're a blue state or not, fine. I don't care about party affiliation. Let's work on the things we agree on. And I do think that's lowering the cost of living and creating a safer environment across the state. So those are the things I'm going to focus on, and I'd love all the support I can get.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, Dan Woog, thank you for joining us this morning. We appreciate it, and we wish you good luck. Stay tuned, and we'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. I'm Bradley Beck filling in for Kim, who's off for a couple of days. And I get to sit in the big boy seat and enjoy some time with my friend, former representative Don Beasley. And Don, good to see you this morning.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good to see you, Brad. We're the dream team here this morning.
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The only thing is you're tall and I'm short, and we have the Mutt & Jeff Show, actually. We can hit them low and hit them high. There you go. We can do a routine. So today we're going to be talking about a variety of things, but you can always find out what's the latest in Kim's newsletter by going to her website at KimMonson.com. You can email Kim anytime at Kim at KimMonson.com. And you can always thank her by contributing and supporting to her independent voice to exercise our right from freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If you don't have to force anybody to do something, it's a better way of doing it rather than using the force of government. And ready for any of your financial freedoms today, you need to call an expert and have somebody on your side. And Mint Financial Strategies is an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary. They always put your interest first. And Mint means more than money. It stands for Meaningful Relationship. information sharing, and a network of smart strategies and thoughtful advisory. Somebody who puts you in control first. No cookie cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. So call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080 for Mint Financial Strategies. And we had a guest scheduled, and we're having some issues getting a hold of him. But in the meantime, I've got my friend Don Beasley here, and we've got lots to talk about. And there is so much going on, Don, in the world, especially when you start thinking about all the riots, people being against ICE doing their job. deportation of illegal aliens you see what's going around with protests with the conflict in the Middle East you know and I know you're a husband and a father and when you look at all this stuff and you think my goodness you know how are we gonna get through it all and how are we gonna guide our youth our children especially through this morass of things that are happening daily in our lives
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Yeah, you know, when I, you know, I have two kids and one's just starting on his first real job in life and the other one's a senior in high school and you certainly do project forward three, four and five years and you think about the violence going on, the assassination of Charlie Kirk for just engaging people in open conversation, whether you agree with him or not. And it's easy to get really focused on that. And there are things that obviously we have to deal with in our culture in terms of this rising idea that it's okay to use force against other people up to including killing them if you disagree with them. But there's also a step back. We sometimes think about July 4th, 1776, what I call one perfect moment, that kind of pinnacle of the enlightenment, and that that was the pinnacle. And then we've kind of sort of drifted from that. And I think that's true. But if you take a step back and look at 5,000 years of history, It's been a march upward. And this is still the absolute best time to be alive. I think that's one of the things I don't want to lose track of is I would much rather be alive. The only thing wrong with today right now for me is that I'm not 20 years younger. Because it really is the best time to be alive as an American in terms of technology and opportunity and prosperity and things we can do. Now, there's problems that are chipping away at that. The uncivil discourse that's going on in our society, the belief that it's okay to use force against other people to make them do what you want to do. And it really is, you talked about force versus freedom. One way or another, all these discussions are about, are you going to be a free person who lives in a free society and has a right to determine your own direction in life and live peaceably? Or are you going to be subject to other people coming at you and initiating force against you, trying to control your speech up to and including killing people, harming people? I was just watching somebody the other day, a very nice woman, just having interviews on the street, and she was attacked by the person she was interviewing. And we have to all universally say no, not no but, right? There's a lot of no buts out there after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. It's got to be no. It's unacceptable to live in a society that is violent. And we have to be willing to deal with our secure borders, with violent crime that is going on. We can't. release people for no reason just because, you know, right now in Colorado, it's a huge issue. You're releasing people because you say they're not competent to stand trial. And then they go out and they commit the next crime. And we have to find solutions that hold criminals accountable and protect innocent people. And we're just sort of doing the opposite and promoting the opposite. And we've got to get away from that.
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Well, and I think conversations, the solution to free speech and the curtailment of it and calling other people out and calling them names, we need more free speech. Second Amendment, you know, the ability to protect yourself with a firearm. is not a something that the government gives you it's a god-given right and therefore you should be able to do that so the answer there is to have more firearms out there so people who learn how to use them can protect themselves from the criminals when the police or whoever else is in the security is minutes away you know you look at what happened at the church in michigan yesterday And, you know, I don't know how many security they had around there, but it's just amazing. This keeps happening. And I think we have to be aware of it. But I agree with you. We do live in the greatest country in the world. This idea of America was so unique that people are still wanting to come here in droves. And they're not busting down the gates to get to any place else as far as I'm aware of.
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Well, it's interesting how just a little bit of freedom goes a long ways. Anywhere you look around the world where a little bit of freedom, free markets, things of that nature are introduced, prosperity jumps. Whereas if you introduce a little more state planning, it goes down. And it takes very little freedom to supercharge a society. And that's because freedom is consistent with reality. Human beings have to be free to take action to improve their lives. And when we protect that freedom, they do great things. They do what comes natural. They get up in the morning. And they work hard to build a better life for themselves and their family and the community around them.
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And it's incumbent upon our fellow citizens, our friends, our neighbors to get involved. And if it's just one thing, if it's going to a school board meeting or just showing up at a town hall meeting. I don't know how many times I've been watching my local community. What what's going on in the town of Erie and had to put on my pants and walk into the door and say, guys, really, we're going to do this again. And, you know, if people don't get involved, we're going to have the bureaucracy get bigger and bigger and take away more of our rights.
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We are. And, you know, one thing you mentioned a couple of minutes ago, too, is stop calling people names. And it happens on both sides. I'm not gonna cast the first stone. It happens on both sides, but we have to commit to civil discourse. If there's no other lesson from what happened to Charlie Kirk, let's at least commit together to civil discourse and have a conversation about what's right, what's wrong, why. Make your point, make your argument. But calling everyone a Nazi or a fascist that you disagree with or making up nicknames for them, as some people like to do, it just degrades the discourse. And we're a better country than that on both sides. And we need to do better.
SPEAKER 11 :
We do. And one of the things that I know in Toastmasters we talk about when we evaluate somebody's presentation is reflecting first before you answer. You just don't react. You think about what you're going to say, how you're going to say it, the tone, the pattern, the words that you use. It makes all the difference in the world. And if you're accusatory, people are going to be defensive by nature. And so we really need to work on getting people to think first before they speak.
SPEAKER 09 :
We do. A good business rule, if you've got a situation going on that's negative, is to wait 24 hours before you fire off that email. Or longer. Or longer sometimes, yeah. And it's the same kind of thing. Take a breath and think about what it is you actually want to achieve and why. It's easy to react. We've all done it, right? You've done it. I've done it. It's easy to react off the cuff, but we've got to take that breath and take that measured moment and just always for us, bring it back to principles, right? It is about freedom. It is about opportunity for people and the prosperity that creates and thinking about how can we share those ideas better.
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Well, after we come back from the break, I want to talk to you a little bit about some business practices and based on principles, because I don't think we talk enough about principles, whether it's in our businesses, our daily lives or in our politics. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. I'm Bradley Beck, filling in for Kim, who's out today. Check out Kim's website at kimmonson.com. And the Center for American Values is located in beautiful Pueblo, Colorado, on the Riverwalk. The center is focused on foundational values of America, those of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Through their K-12 programs, grade educational programs, they train educators, and the portraits of valor of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients are at the center that help instill those ideas of honor, integrity, and patriotism for our next generation. And you can check out their website at AmericanValueCenter.com. That's AmericanValueCenter.com. and I love listening to Drew Dix's podcast. If you haven't done that yet, it's well worth your time. I'm in a studio with my friend Don Beasley, former representative of House District 33. He's a small businessman, and he's a Colorado resident for a long time, sees a lot of changes, and we're talking a little bit about principles and ideas in business, as well as in communication. And One of the things I just was sharing with Don on the way down here together is I had the opportunity to be at Fairview High in Boulder, Colorado, and talk a little bit about the ideas of principles of the American founding. Things like human equality, natural rights, consent of the governed, limited powers, democracy. Rule of law, equal protection of the law. And the students responded very well to those ideas. And I challenged them to ask their questions based on those principles. And what was amazing is we had a dialogue rather than a screaming match. And it can be done even in the belly of the beast of Boulder, Colorado. Now, what are your thoughts about that way of communicating?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, fight on your nights for old Fairview High, my alma mater. I'm glad you were able to go talk to them. Yeah, I mean, I think it's so important. One thing I've observed, and I have a high school, he's a senior in high school, and we talk about these things a lot. And I hear even them talk a little bit amongst their friends and offer opinions on each other and those kind of things. And kids at that age are actually very open to thinking about these ideas and thinking in terms of these principles and how they apply them. They're just not getting enough. They're not getting enough critical thinking skills. They're getting a little bit of agenda-driven oriented things. And I think the way that you go in, in some ways it's almost a Socratic method in a version of it, right, in terms of asking questions of them and letting them find the answers based on those principles or find the questions based on those principles. And I think that's what kind of opens people's minds to thinking critically, right? It's not even about, hey, you have to think what I'm thinking, right? But just open your mind and think critically about these ideas. And, man, we need that in our high schools and really K through 12, but certainly in our high schools. And that's why there's a target of kind of controlling those ages, right? Because they are very, the flip side is they are super impressionable at those ages in terms of forming what they really think. And then they're going into their university experience right after that as well. And that obligation of helping them think critically and think open-mindedly and look at it from a couple of different sides is incredible. And you're doing incredible work in that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thank you. It was a privilege to do it. You know, one of the things that makes me remember is when I was a facilitator for the Hugh O'Brien Youth Leadership Program for five years, I was on the board here in Colorado. And one of the things that we... focused on is getting the students how to think, not what to think, going to your point. And it's so critical. I know we were going to have Jonathan Turley here with us, and we had some technical issues. But he wrote a book, The Indispensable Right, Free Speech in the Age of Rage. And I like that bottom part, that in the age of rage, is because it's such an important aspect of how people communicate with each other. And in fact, we do have Mr. Turley on the line with us. Jonathan Turley is, you probably know him because you've seen him on many different prominent newscasts. He's an American attorney, a constitutional law scholar, and a media legal analyst. And he has extensive work in academia. And he's published many things in the Washington Post, New York Times, USA Today, and The Hill. And most recently, Mr. Turley was in Colorado for Constitution Week up at Grand Lake. Professor Turley, welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Tell us about your experience.
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Well, first of all, going to Grand Lake was truly rejuvenating. You know, there's a tendency when you are on the East Coast to yield to the sort of tribalism and cynicism that is prevalent in Washington, D.C. And then you go to a place like Grand Lake and you meet people who love the country, love the Constitution, who are not angry. They're grateful. And it's something that, frankly, I wish everyone in Washington could experience. There are other towns and cities across America like that, just not this one. Washington has become a really poisonous tribal place. So I came back really feeling a sense of renewal from Grand Lake.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, when I met you first time at the LPR leadership program at the Rockies Retreat in Colorado Springs, and you were talking about the indispensable right. And you have so many great stories in this book. I have to commend you on it. But the one that really struck me is the one in the beginning by a activist, Charlotte Anita Whitney. Tell us a little bit about that case.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, Whitney is a fascinating case. I took the title of my book, The Indispensable Right, from an opinion, a concurrence by Louis Brandeis, one of the great civil libertarians that ever sit on the Supreme Court. And the reason I did that is because he wrote beautifully about how free speech is indispensable. But then he made it every bit dispensable by signing off on the sentence that for Whitney, who was arrested for speaking against lynching. Now, she was someone who was radicalized. She became one of the early American communists, but she was also one of the great voices for feminism. And while I disagree with her ideology, I do respect the reason that she became an activist. She saw great poverty. She wanted to do something about it. And she saw great violence in the form of lynchings and other forms, and she wanted to stop it. And she spoke against lynching and was arrested for it. And then she came before one of the greatest libertarians in our history, and he signed off. And the question the book asks is, If Louis Brandeis can lose his way on free speech, maybe we could learn from that as to why. And what the book suggests is that you can't really understand the meaning of free speech until you understand who we are and why we need it and why it is indispensable. And what the book argues, which is a bit controversial with law professors today, is that it's a natural right. It's a right that was given to us as human beings. It was not bestowed upon us. It was not granted to us as a privilege. It belongs to us as human beings. And if you view it that way, and that's how the framers when they first created this republic and wrote the First Amendment, they viewed it as a natural right. But we lost our way and we started to develop what I call a functionalist view of free speech, that we protect free speech because it has this function of helping democracy. And it most certainly does that. But it does so much more than that. And so that's what the book really explores. And the true heroes in our history are all those people we arrested. You know, people like Whitney, all of those that just wouldn't shut up. And she's an example of what George Bernard Shaw said, which is that unreasonable people expect the world to conform to them. And then he added, that's why all history is made by unreasonable people. And she was one of those unreasonable people.
SPEAKER 11 :
Professor Turley, we only have two minutes left in this segment. And I'm just curious, you talk about James Madison and Madison's monster. Can you give us a quick synopsis of that?
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, Madison was someone who is really, I have a huge amount of respect for, but he lived in a time of great hypocrisy. John Adams became everything he fought against. He used the alien sedition acts to crack down on his opponents. Thomas Jefferson also used sedition. It was Madison who wrote a beautiful essay in 1800 called where he said, look, this is a monster, a monster called sedition, called speech prosecutions. And I really was captivated by that term because it is a monster. We release it upon our neighbors when we're very angry or we're very afraid. And we do it during ages of rage like the one we're living through. And we can learn from that history instead of constantly repeating the cycle.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thank you for your insight into the book, Professor Turley. We appreciate that. And we look forward to your continued essays and information and all the things that you are known for in commentary. So thank you for being on The Kim Monson Show today.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is a great pleasure to be on the show today. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You are not alone. God bless you and God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to the Kim Monson Show. I am Bradley Beck, filling in for Kim, who's out for a couple days. So let's have a conversation in studio with me is my friend and former Colorado House District 33 Representative Don Beasley. Good morning, Don.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning, Brad. It's good to be back here after the hour.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's good to see you. And Joe, thank you for doing all you do behind the board. How are you this morning?
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I'm doing fantastic, Brad, and it's my pleasure.
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Well, thanks for being here. And thank you all for listening. Each of you are treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. We were made for this time in history. And, you know, you can always find out what's going on in Kim Monson world by going to her Web site, Kim Monson dot com. You can sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter and get the first look at all her upcoming guests, as well as the most recent essays that are listed there. And thank you for contributing to our independent voice and the exercise of our freedom of speech. And we talked to Jonathan Turley. on his book the indispensable right and we're hopeful we might get him for our last segment of uh this this hour so stay tuned we'll see if we can do that we also like to say thank you to the harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show And also, we've got a newer sponsor from Little Richie's Pizza and Pasta. It's a place you go for real New York-style pizza, hearty pastas, and an unbeatable local vibe. Little Richie's is a place where they serve up daily specials, quick and tasty lunch day meals, and happy hour for the locals that actually build around pizza. their community there at Little Richie's. Whether you're bringing the crew, catching up with friends, or flying solo for a hot slice, Little Richie's is your neighborhood hangout. Don, today I picked the word of the day is sagacious, and it's an adjective. It's spelled S-A-G-A-C-I-O-U-S, and the definition is having or showing understanding and the ability to make good judgments and having keen discernment, sound judgment, and farsightedness. So we can all use a little bit of vocabulary to sound a little more intelligent, at least than I sound, but it's a great word of the day, sagacious.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is. We could all use a little more discernment, I think, in our everyday lives and as we interpret all the information that's flowing in constantly into our lives.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. And our quote of the day is from somebody who had a lot of humor in his looking at the world, Samuel Longhorn Clemens, born in November 30th, 1835. He died April 21st, 1910, and he was known as Mark Twain. He was probably one of the greatest humorists that America ever produced, according to William Faulkner, another author. He wrote The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and the sequel, Adventures of Huckaberry Finn. And he said, quote, suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. I love that quote. And some of the folks that are serving down there at the Golden Dome, I think it applies to them as well. Well, on the line with us is somebody who knows a little bit about creating financial freedom. And she's one of the sponsors here at the Kim Monson Show, Jody Hensley from Mint Financial Strategies. Jody, good morning. Good morning. Good morning, Brad. Thanks for having me. Well, thanks for being here. And you're an expert on planning for the future in people's finances and in today's uncertainty. What are some of the things you recommend as an expert in this field?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, first, you actually have to have a plan. And surprisingly, only about 50% of Americans actually have a financial plan when it comes to their financial future. So that's always one place to start. And when you're starting to build a financial plan, the very first place to start is building a strong foundation. And what I mean by that is anytime somebody comes to start investing, I always recommend that you have to have an emergency reserve even before you start investing. Because when you start building that financial blueprint for your financial house, If you don't have a strong foundation and something happens, like you lose your job or you have a medical emergency and you don't have that emergency reserve, then your financial house can come crashing down. So that's a great place to start. And then the next thing to do is when you start building that financial plan, you have to define your goals. And the more specific you can be, the better that we can be when it comes to your financial advisor in setting those clear action plans. And last. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I was just going to say so many people don't even think or consider of that till much later in their life. And it's amazing to me that more people don't start thinking about these things earlier so they can actually build wealth over time.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, and that's a good point. I think people start thinking about that probably in their 50s and 60s. And you really should start planning much earlier than that. And I recommend when you start having a career. And financial plans are very fluid. We recognize as financial advisors that things are going to be changing all along the way. So financial plans aren't art set in stone, we recognize that goals and objectives are going to be changing all along the way. So we need to have a plan that can be flexible as things change with your lives. So you want to have a financial plan that can pivot and adjust as things change in your life.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, what do you recommend for somebody who's just getting started? They have a new family. They are just starting a new job or maybe their second job. How much should they be putting aside for the future?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, the general recommendation is about 10% to 15% of your gross income. Now, sometimes that can be a little hard when you've got a lot of conflicting goals. You're building up that emergency reserve. You're saving for college. You're saving for retirement. But it's a good general rule of thumb to try to put away 10% to 15%.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that idea of compound interest is something so important, especially when you're younger, because when you get older, you have this money that you never knew you had if you leave it alone. Too many times as a young man, I dipped into that. And I'm a little bit regretful now, but I've caught up over time. And what are some things that people can do to make sure they don't touch that emergency fund?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, best thing that they can do is stay disciplined, right? It's kind of like when you start a diet and you want to lose 10 pounds, right? Good intentions only go so far. If you eat ice cream and you don't work out, you're never going to lose that 10 pounds. And the same thing goes with, you know, your financial plan. If you touch that emergency reserve to go on vacation or, you know, to go to a concert, you're never going to... reach your financial goals and objectives. So stay disciplined and don't get emotional when it comes to investing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, in other words, be sagacious in your financial approach to your way you're dealing with your future, really, because too many people are waiting for their retirement and they'll get this pot of gold, which probably won't be there, at least not the amount that they thought they were putting into it.
SPEAKER 21 :
Absolutely. That's a good way of looking at it.
SPEAKER 11 :
So where can people get more information, and what would you recommend just starting the conversation with you at MidFinancial?
SPEAKER 21 :
Mm-hmm. Yeah, we do a complimentary financial plan for anybody who contacts me. It's a great way for us to get to know you and for you to get to know us at Mint Financial. You can contact me through phone or text at 303-285-3080. Again, that's 303-285-3080. Or you can email me at Jody with a Y at MintFS.com. That's J-O-D-Y at MintFS.com.
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Jody, we appreciate your support of The Kim Monson Show, and we appreciate what you do out there in the community. And go call Jody at Mint Financial and have a conversation with her. Thanks, Jody. Thanks, Brad. Bye-bye. Have a great day. We'll be right back after this message.
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and welcome back to the kim monson show i'm bradley beck and i'm pleased to host the show today filling in for kim who's out for a few days and sitting here with me is my friend the honorable don beasley how you doing don good brad it's always good to have you here and having a conversation with you and kind of helping me rearrange things as they come at us so thank you yeah anytime we can make it a good morning and the opportunity to talk with good guests and a little bit of freedom and opportunity That's what it's all about. And that's what Kim's show is all about, is about your support for her independent voice, exercising our right to free speech. And you can always find out more about the Kim Monson Show on her weekly email newsletter. You can get the first look at all her upcoming guests as well as her most recent essays at kimmonson.com. And through all Kim's work with veterans, she's honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and all the work that they're doing to raise money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden, Colorado at 6th and Colfax. Paula Saris is the president of the foundation. She's a Marine veteran and a Gold Star wife. And Paula and her team are working diligently to make that remodel a reality, and you can help by donating to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Well, recently there was a great op-ed, a reply to something that was in the Denver Post, and I, as I always do when I go to Think about what's happening in Colorado and somebody who, as I say, GSD, gets stuff done. I'll clean that up a little bit for radio, is my friend Laura Carno. Laura Carno is the founder of Faster Colorado, and she travels the state to promote and run the program. And when tragedy strikes in any school shooting throughout our state or throughout our country, Laura has become the go-to person as a calm, reasoned voice to approach school safety. And she's also the author of Government Ruins Nearly Everything, Reclaiming Social Issues from Uncivil Servants. Laura, welcome to the Kim Monson Show.
SPEAKER 22 :
Absolutely. Thanks so much for having me. Good to hear Don on this morning as well. Isn't it?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's good to be here, Laura. It's good to hear your voice. And I love all the work you're doing in FASTER. It's just incredible.
SPEAKER 22 :
Thanks so much. And you both are being very sagacious.
SPEAKER 11 :
She listened to the word of the day. Love it. So, Laura, tell me a little bit about this op-ed that you published in response to the editorial board at the Denver Post.
SPEAKER 22 :
Sure. And such an important issue. And, you know, we've been just slammed since um since the evergreen high school shooting and the point that the denver post was making that i felt the need to respond to is we need school resources or school resource officers everywhere and i'm also known as sros and for the listeners that don't know what they are they are actually law enforcement members they're police officers they are um They are sheriff's deputies that are on scene at schools to protect the kids. And we love them. And they help kids have, you know, a good relationship with law enforcement. And they're also there, I think, as a deterrent. See a cop car in front of a school and you have bad intentions and you might say, hey, you know, today isn't the day. This isn't the place. And that keeps people safe. So what the Denver Post said is, gosh, we wish they were everywhere. Agreed. And but they're super expensive. So what other choices do we have? And it was sort of a, you know, put your hands in the air and say, you know, we're we're just resigned to have these school shootings. And at Faster Colorado, we have been around for the last nine years training armed school staff. And so this would be not members of law enforcement and not full time security officers. teams that some schools hire out, a full-time security guard. But these are people who have other jobs in schools. They are the principal or the janitor or the teacher or the coach. We've even had a school nurse and a self-described lunch lady. But they are people who are there in school, more than one of them, And nobody knows who they are except for that security team. So there is a deterrent effect to that, the fact that these are unknown people. And the killers don't know when they might be stopped and where they might be stopped. So we have advocated for this for, like I said, during our ninth training year. And it really in the last nine years, it has become more of a very mainstream policy, causing people to ask after Evergreen, why wasn't anybody armed on campus? And that really is the right question.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you have, last I recall, over 500, as I would say, heroes who have volunteered. This is not people being forced by the school district. These are people who either want to or think that their training can get better and they could stand in front of a shooter or be the first responder in an incident at a school or a church or any religious organization that you may be working with. And you're now in something like 50 different districts around the state. Talk a little bit about those heroes.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, and they are heroes, absolutely. These are people who, if they weren't armed, would run toward the sound of a gunfire anyway and hope to save children. But if they aren't armed, if they don't have the same skills, firepower that these potential killers have, they would use their bodies to shield children. And what we see in school shootings and church shootings is they continue to do that. They have the mindset to go save lives. It is, you know, I think fairly criminal for us not to allow them to have access to, you know, be able to lawfully carry in those schools. And not only are they volunteers, as you mentioned, Bradley, is they also go through this very thorough vetting process. So when a school district decides this is what they're going to do, it's not raise your hand and pick a gun out of a safe. It's you raise your hand and say, yes, I'd like to be considered. You go through some sort of a vetting process. Each school district can do it differently. But they are thorough and they are rigorous. There's applications, there's interviews, there's all kinds of things like that. And then when they come to FASTER for their annual training and qualification course, we got our eye on them too. And if there was anything that we saw, our active duty law enforcement instructors, they train cops for a living. If there's anything they see, We can say to a school, hey, we noticed some things that caused us some concern. We only had two of those conversations in nine years. But these are very thoroughly vetted people.
SPEAKER 11 :
How can folks get involved in FASTER if they're interested? And why do you think that it's not more readily accepted in school districts like Boulder and Denver where it makes so much sense? What's the fear?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. You know, the fear is there's a whole bunch of things that have never happened that people who are opposed to the policy think is going to happen and think happens all the time, yet it doesn't. And those things are, well, you can't force somebody to carry a gun. We know that. It's things like a student could get a gun from an armed staff member and And certainly that's always a risk, but it's also never happened. And we train around it. So there's all kinds of things like that. There's also, I would say, another category of people who they just are opposed to civilian use of firearms and they don't like the idea. So regardless of whether it is the safest policy in the country or anything else that points to the deterrent effect, they're not going to be in favor of it regardless because they just have an ideological opposition to the idea of civilian ownership of firearms.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, we protect our politicians, we protect our jewelry stores, our department stores, and yet the most precious of all our things in our lives are our children, and we don't protect them. How do we get people to understand that that probably is a priority over all these other ways that we protect people?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, and that's the right question to be asking. And sadly, it takes continued examples of what happens when schools are not protected. And what happened in Evergreen, the timeline's very interesting. Although it took just a couple of minutes for Jefferson County Sheriff's Office to get there after the 911 calls, there is somewhere between six and eight minutes between the shooting starting and the first 911 calls and uh you know we'll we'll see in this um this uh lds church shooting in michigan that happened yesterday you kind of what all those timelines are as well law enforcement was there very very quickly but how how long did the killer have time to commit his carnage before law enforcement was notified sometimes there's just not time to pick up your phone and say, oh, hey, there's some problems here. You're too busy trying to run for your life. So those critical moments, whether we're talking a school or a church, those critical early moments, the first second, the first 30 seconds, the first minute, what are we doing to protect people? And it is concealed carry, typically unknown to the public. well-trained people who are going to be able to stop killers in those early moments.
SPEAKER 11 :
Laura, we've got some more questions for you. I know Don has a question for you. We're going to go break, and when we come back, Don, what are you going to ask her?
SPEAKER 09 :
I was going to ask you about the decision-making level in a state like Colorado in terms of the state versus the district versus the school versus the board.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome back. I'm Bradley Beck filling in for Kim Monson, who's away for a few days. And you can always reach Kim by email. Kim at Kim Monson dot com is her Web site or Kim at Kim Monson is her email address. And thank you for contributing to her independent voice, exercising the right of freedom of speech in studio with me is my friend Don Beasley. And Don, you had a question for our guest on the line, Laura Carnal.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, thanks, Brad. Hey, Laura. So I was curious about just the decision-making process for a school to be able to adopt these policies to protect their kids. Does that start at the district level, or is it at the board level, the individual school level? How does that decision-making process go?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, just pulling out the camera a little bit, there are 33 states that have some lawful ability for schools to do this. Some on one end are constitutional carry. You can carry in a school. Some are much more restrictive. Colorado is somewhere in the middle where our school boards and charter school boards can make the decision. So we have, for example, charter schools that are in districts that are unfriendly to the policy that are still able to authorize armed staff at their charter school because of the law. And most of the districts in Colorado that have armed staff, and I'll say 65%-ish, are traditional rural school districts where the whole rural school district has the armed staff policy. We've got some near suburban districts as well. And then we have charter schools and religious schools. And just, you know, you were talking earlier about church violence as well. There's so much crossover between members of our armed security teams at schools that they are also on their armed security teams at churches. So we have also dabbled in that. And as we see, church security and violence at places of worship is just as big a problem as it is at schools.
SPEAKER 11 :
Laura, you know, FASTER, which stands for Faculty Administrator Safety Training and Emergency Response, I wrote that down from your website. People should go look at your website. You know, FASTER not only does what they do with their volunteers for protecting our children in schools, but they also are trained in life-saving medical instruction. Talk a little bit about that, would you please? Sure.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, and medical care is as critical as stopping the killer. You've got to stop the bleeding. So many of these schools are far away from emergency response. So we give them, I'm going to call it an appetizer, of use of tourniquets, chest seals, and wound packing skills. We give them a little appetizer. They really need to go get a full trauma medical class to really be able to have the best chance possible of saving lives. But we want them to understand how critical those first few moments are to save lives. Because if you stop the killer, but people have been injured and are bleeding out and medical, you know, paramedics are, you know, five minutes, 20 minutes, even more in some of these communities. you're going to lose lives anyway. So our class isn't required by their insurance or anything to teach that, but we do give them that little bit of instruction that really opens their eyes to, you know, holy cow, if we're going to have an armed security team, we absolutely have to have more medical training than we have already.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's so important. You mentioned in your op-ed the organization, the Crime Prevention Resource Center, Dr. John Lott, who I've had the good pleasure of meeting and reading several of his books. My favorite is More Guns, Less Crime. And most people would push back on that because they're afraid of crime. They've never been trained or they're never around their homes. And yet the statistics that he cites, and they come from the government, so often paint a different narrative than what we're told in the media. What are your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 22 :
Right. And if folks want to go down that rabbit hole, they should go to crimeresearch.org. and look at that research. John Lott, I lovingly refer to him as a data nerd. But everything that he says, you can go look at all of the data. It's not an opinion. It's where the facts lead. And that is a fact that in societies where there is more gun ownership by lawful citizens who are using their firearms to in the course of their business, protecting their livestock, for example, or caring for their self-defense, that there is less crime. And we can look, Brad, at the Covington Christian school shooting in Nashville a couple years back, and we can look at the Annunciation Catholic church shooting in Minneapolis just a few weeks back. The manifestos of those uh those killers both said i'm considering these two different places this one is known to have really good armed security this other one is known not to i'm going to go to the one that is not well armed this is a deterrent policy um we we don't want somebody to come um with the intent to shoot up a school or church and get shot we want them not to go there at all we we want the elimination of these, not just the stopping of these. We'll stop them if we need to. But the real goal is we don't want anybody to have to go through this. If you look at Evergreen High School, there's a list of victims. There are, yes, two people who got shot. But think of all the people who know the people who got shot. Think of all the witnesses. Think of all the parents and the siblings. Nobody gets out of these unscathed. These are huge impacts to our society. So stopping them by deterrence is really the big goal.
SPEAKER 11 :
So FASTER has done some amazing work in Colorado, and I know there's another program in Ohio, and it continues to grow. How do you see the FASTER program in five or ten years? What would you like to see happen?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, and, you know, because of John Lott's work with the data pointing to there have been zero deaths, mass shootings even attempted at armed schools, meaning armed with concealed carry armed staff. I think that the policies will continue to grow around the state and acceptance of the policies in various school districts around, not just across the state, but across the country will continue to grow and they will continue to stay the safest type of protocols that we have out there. I don't think I don't think we're going to have any choice. I think we have to do this to protect our children. As you mentioned, the department store has armed guards. For goodness sakes, our children are more important than whatever is going on in a department store. There's nothing special or sacred about that geography of a school building that says you can be safe over here across the street at the mall, but not over here. in the school. It's going to continue to become unacceptable.
SPEAKER 11 :
You have seen so many different political campaigns and public policy issues. You've been at the forefront of many of these. You've really been a change for the culture here in Colorado. How do you see the environment today in Colorado, and how can citizens help you get things turned around?
SPEAKER 22 :
A couple of years ago, Brad, there was an attempt by a lawmaker in Denver to repeal the law that allows for school boards to authorize this. And so at Faster, we had to hire a lobbyist for the first time ever to protect the right of schools to be able to protect their students. And for the foreseeable future, we are going to need to bear that expense. which we were a 501c3. We were not intending to spend a bunch of money on a lobbyist to protect us, but it's important that we do. What happened a couple years ago when this law was introduced is, you know, Faster Colorado was kind of the center of this, and we brought alongside the Colorado Rural Alliance And interestingly, even the, um, the CEA, the Colorado education Alliance, the teachers union, um, they were very concerned about a statewide policy that would leave rural school districts without the ability to make those security decisions on their own. And we ended up defeating that bill and we're, uh, we're taking a good chunk of the credit for that. Um, so there is still at least today. And understanding that rural schools especially need to be able to make these decisions. We think every school does. But we never know. We just had Evergreen High School shooting. So we are always geared up to protect the schools. I don't look at it as protecting faster. We're simply providing that educational opportunity for them. But we have to protect their ability to protect the children or what are we going to have? We're going to have schools that are by law disarmed and every bad guy will know it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Laura, how can people get involved and what's that website that they can contact you at?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, folks should go right on over to fastercolorado.org. I suggest people look at the R-Team website. Pull down and look at the incredible experience of our law enforcement instructors. They are an incredible group of guys we work with. We're also, I mentioned we're a 501c3. We've got a great sweepstakes going on right now. You can win a couple of firearms and a side of beef, which I think everybody loves both of those things. And every dollar helps our program to expand throughout Colorado.
SPEAKER 11 :
I have participated in donating to that. I encourage people to do so. I like my beef and I like my bullets and guns, so it's all good. And where can people get your book, Laura?
SPEAKER 22 :
They can go to Amazon. Government ruins nearly everything. It is a 10-year-old book, so you'll have to forgive some of the things that are no longer timely, but it is still a very accurate book that if you want to fix things in your society... You need to do it yourself. For people who say there ought to be a law, I make the case that there ought not to be a law. We should do things outside of government. We are always more effective when we do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Laura Carnal, thank you for joining us today. Appreciate all you do. And keep up the good work.
SPEAKER 22 :
Thanks so much. Appreciate being on with you guys.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. Thanks, Laura. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. I'm Bradley Beck, guest hosting today, sitting in with me with the Honorable Don Beasley, my friend for many years with the Leadership Program of the Rockies. And on the line, continuing the conversation with us, we started in the first hour, is Jonathan Turley. He's a prominent American attorney, constitutional law scholar, a media legal analyst, and he has extensive work in both public commentary and academia. Professor Turley, welcome back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, your book, The Indispensable Right, we talked a little bit about the free speech in the age of rage. And one of the things I found interesting in your book is that you state that free speech is a fundamental right and it's necessary for human beings to interact. And one of the things you point out is the story about the Sistine Chapel and that famous touch. and you make the point, and I think rightly so, that man is a creator. Can you share a little bit more about that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, it's interesting that I show the picture of the central panel of the Sistine Chapel, which is called God Creates Adam, to try to get my students, and then also now the readers of my book, to focus on not just what free speech is, but who we are and why we need free speech. And, of course, that picture of the touch has probably launched more PhDs than any picture in history as people debate, you know, what does it mean? And one could say, well, it's just simply the spark of life, but it doesn't really fit that well because Adam is clearly fully formed and doesn't quite seem to be capturing the moment of creation. And the question I raise is, what if it means something else? I mean, what if it means truly that God created man in his own image? That what is God? He is a creator. And it's meant to try to get people to think about the need of human beings to project part of themselves into the world around us. It's insatiable. You can find it in everything from the Great Wall of China to doodling. We often create without even thinking about it. And the question is why? And the book explores how we seem hardwired for expression. Parts of the human brain actually change. If you are cut off from other people and unable to express yourself, and studies of prisoners and segregation, explorers cut off from civilization, they actually physically change. So things like the hippie campus actually shrink. So what this is meant to do is to get people to think about free speech as a human right, a natural right, a right that belongs to us, so that we can be fully human. Now, the reason that's important is that if you believe that free speech is a human right, it becomes more difficult to trade off free speech. The problem that I have with many of the cases in this area, and certainly much of the academic writings, is that they treat free speech as something you protect because it's good for democracy. It's function, as I call functionalism, is the dominant view of free speech. The problem with that is that it allows you to do trade-offs. It means that some speech is good speech, some speech is bad speech, some speech is good for democracy, some is not. And that's the slippery slope we have found ourselves on. That's how people silence others today.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, that is so true. And you have so many beautiful stories and various characters in your book. And my favorite is the Norman Rockwell painting, Freedom of Speech, where you have a Vermont selectman standing up and talking about the school they want to build in his town, and yet they don't have any money. And he asked that question. Tell us a little bit about that painting and then how his critics responded to his modern art painting. I thought that was just fascinating.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, I put that picture in the book because it was Rockwell's effort to support the war because FDR had given his For Freedom speech. And Rockwell contacted the White House and said, I want to paint that. And of course, they were delighted because Rockwell was even then probably the most popular artist in the United States. But when they received the painting, some of them were a bit surprised because it wasn't George Washington crossing the Delaware or some more traditional image. It was this unknown individual simply standing up and speaking. And so the response was, who's that? And Rockwell said, that's my neighbor. That is Jim Edgerton, who Rockwell witnessed. standing up at a meeting in which everyone agreed they wanted to build a new schoolhouse. And yet, Egerton stood up and said, how are we going to pay for it? He said, I'm a dairy farmer. I'm going to lose my farm. I can't feed my cows. I don't want to lose my farm. And it sort of brought home that maybe free speech is more important when we're talking to friends than when we're talking to enemies. It's much harder in many cases. And Rockwell felt that moment, that vignette captured everything about the United States and free speech. What's funny is that the American people saw that. It became the most popular war bonds picture of the war because they didn't know who he was. They didn't know what he was saying, but they knew exactly what that was about. It was about them. It was about who they are. So, you know, Rockwell was criticized by critics, particularly one named Clement Greenberg, who credited himself with discovering abstract art, or at least Jackson Pollock. And Greenberg just would slam Rockwell almost on a weekly basis. uh he's saying that this was kitsch that rockwell was an artist who decided not to be taken seriously and rockwell didn't respond until he did in probably the greatest takedown of any rebuttal i have ever seen he painted a large painting called the connoisseur and it's it's unique among rockwell's portfolio because You cannot see the face of the person in the painting. But you sort of can, because you're looking at him from the back, facing this large abstract painting. He's clearly been there a while. He's clutching tightly an art catalog in his hands. And he's obviously been there searching for meaning, staring at this abstract art. Well, it was a devastating criticism, but the most... Wonderful aspect was that when it was unveiled, de Kooning, who was one of the most famous abstract artists of his generation, was in the audience. And according to reports, he stood up and said, my God, that's better than Pollock. And, you know, he was so enthralled by it. He had critics go up with magnifying glasses to look at the painting and said, this is one of the best abstract paintings. I have seen. Well, the point is that Rockwell could do that. Rockwell was amazingly talented. He went to the best art schools and his portfolio contained different styles, all of which are really breathtaking images. But he didn't ultimately paint that way. He could. And there was one interview where a young reporter asked him, Basically, he just asked him the simplest of questions. He asked Rockwell, why do you paint like that? And the question seemed in some ways to sort of unleash Rockwell, or at least free him. Because what he gave was an amazingly poignant response. And he said that when he went through America, he saw things that... His colleagues and fellow artists just didn't seem to see that they walked by these moments that were incredibly profound, these vignettes of what America is. He said, I wanted to paint that. And the American people knew that he really wasn't just painting a police officer sitting at a soda stand with a young boy or something. a baseball manager screaming at an umpire. He was painting them. He was painting something about who they are. And, you know, what the book suggests is that, first of all, I believe that the First Amendment means exactly what it says. I don't believe it's simplistic. It's the most revolutionary statement of the American Revolution. that we will not abridge free speech. And in that sense, I am undeniably Rockwellian when it comes to constitutional law. But we also have our constitutional connoisseurs, academics that say, look, that's deciding you won't be taken seriously, that the First Amendment can't mean that. It's got to be more nuanced. It has to be interpreted. You have to rely on people like us. to tell you when you can have free speech, because you can't just have free speech. Well, I think that's wrong, and I think the American people understand it's wrong. They understand that those words, which seem so simplistic to many law professors, are incredibly profound, and they define a people, and that people understand that this is the indispensable right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Boy, that's just amazing. It's a beautiful ending to our show today, and we appreciate your time, Professor Turley. Where can people get your book?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, it's available on Amazon and all the other sites, and I really appreciate you doing a show on The Indispensable Right. I'm so glad we were able to talk about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we are, too, and thank you for taking the time today, and it was great meeting you down in Colorado Springs. Come back to Colorado often.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I look forward to it. Thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, sir. So our quote for the day is by Samuel Clemens, a.k.a. Mark Twain. He said, quote, So today, ladies and gentlemen, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America. And Don, thank you for being in studio. Thanks so much, Brad.
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and fast on a rough road riding high through the mountains climbing twisting turning further from my home young like a new moon rising fierce through the rain and lightning wandering out into this great And I don't want no one to cry. But tell them if I don't survive.
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Join us on a remarkable journey as we delve into the life of Andy Negra, a 99-year-old World War II veteran. Travel back in time to the Great Depression and follow Andy's courageous path through the perils of war in Europe. In this heartfelt episode, Andy shares his personal encounters and pivotal moments that shaped his remarkable life. Discover the heartwarming story of his marriage, a tale of love that blossomed amidst the backdrop of conflict and uncertainty.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and her other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you, and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
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And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. The show comes to you because of a trip I took in 2016 with a group from the Denver Police Activities League that accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy, France for the 72nd anniversary of the D-Day landings. And we turned stateside realizing that each story is unique. It needs to be recorded. It needs to be broadcast. It needs to be archived. Hence, America's veteran stories. And I am so pleased to have on the line with me World War II veteran Andy Negra. Andy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you very much for inviting me.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, Andy, let's start at the beginning. Tell us where were you born and where did you grow up?
SPEAKER 06 :
I was raised in a coal mining area in western Pennsylvania called Abella. From there up until, that was during the Depression. 1930, we moved to a town called Brownsville, Pennsylvania. It's in the western part. It's on the Monongahela River. And I grew up there and graduated from high school there. That was the main thing. I remained there until I was drafted in 1943. I graduated out of high school in July of 1943. In August, I was heading for Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
SPEAKER 09 :
It didn't take long, did it? Of course, the Allies had not made the landings in Europe yet, but yet the war was certainly very furious over in the Pacific at that particular time. Andy, tell us a little bit. I'd like our listeners to understand the Depression. You grew up during that. What should people know? What should young people in America know about the Great Depression?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, what they should know is it was a very difficult time. People didn't have food. They didn't have work. It was just a country that was at a stalemate. The key that I can remember more than anything, and I'm sure I was either three, four, or five years old at the time, but we were in a tent. My dad was a coal miner. He came from Austria, Hungary, and I'm first generation here. He met my mother, and they married, had four children, and I was the, let's see, my sister, my older brother, then me, and then a younger brother. I can remember that we were in a big tent, and what we were doing there, I don't know, but I can remember holding on to my dad's leg. reason or another but anyhow and things were rough we didn't have anything i always wondered how i got from what when dad couldn't have a car didn't have a car didn't have the money for a car so we but yet we went from one place to another it's always been a mystery to me i can't remember how that happened So the Depression was just a hard time for everybody. Everybody was looking for food. They were looking for jobs and stuff like that. And then I think it was around 1930 that FDR came out with his programs of putting people back to work and starting the country to be back to being active again. It was around that period of time. Beyond that, it was a very difficult time, too. I can remember. I don't know where we even lived at until 1930. And then in 1930, Dad got a duplex house in Brownsville, Pennsylvania. And that's where I was raised, through high school and what have you.
SPEAKER 09 :
So what year were you born, Andy?
SPEAKER 06 :
May the 28th, 1924. You want to guess who was president?
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1924.
SPEAKER 09 :
It wasn't Coolidge, was it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it was. Was it? Oh! Hey, good guesser. Calvin Coolidge was the president. I don't remember that. I never remembered anything up until 1930 when I was president. Just growing up, and I always enjoy telling the story that among the four of us, I was six years old, and I told my brothers and my one sister, I said, I'm going to finish high school. I said, six years old, I'm telling them. I said, I don't know what you all are going to do, but I'm going to finish high school. Believe it or not, Jim, I was the only one that graduated out of high school. And that was 1943. The rest of them went their different ways. Life was difficult at the time. But to me, a 19-year-old, well, at my age, things were just normal to me. I lived my day, and most of the time I didn't worry about anybody else. That's the way I had my life, I can recall. I had to take care of myself. And to this day, I'm still doing it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and am I doing the calculations correctly that you're 99 years old?
SPEAKER 06 :
That is correct. I just finished 99.
SPEAKER 09 :
Congratulations. That is pretty awesome. Thank you very much. Your birthday is the day after my birthday, so I love that time.
SPEAKER 06 :
When's your birthday? May the 27th?
SPEAKER 09 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'll give you something else amazing. The woman I married, there's a big story on that if you want to question me later on on that, I'd be happy to. But her birthday was May the 28th. So she was born 1926, two years after I. Wow. She's a story in itself.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, hopefully we'll get to that. I want to hear that too. You know what? Let's go ahead and jump into that right now. Tell us that story.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the story on that was I was at Fort Meade. I finished basic training and was transferred to Fort Meade, Maryland. And I was walking in the camp at nighttime. It was sort of around 6, 7 o'clock, dark. And I heard music, and I love music. So I followed the music and ended up in the dance hall. And as I walked into the hall, I'm visualizing it with my eyes right now. I looked to the right where the dancing was taking place. And I saw this one... beautiful young girl standing there by herself, clicking her fingers to the music and having a ball. So I said to myself, go on over and ask her to dance. So I walked over and asked her to dance. She looked up at me and said yes. And as we got on the dance floor, the music lasted about, oh, maybe 10, 15 seconds. And I looked down at her and I said, do you want to dance again? She said yes. So we danced again a little bit, and the name of the song they were playing was People Will Say We're In Love from Oklahoma. And I said to her, believe it or not, Kim, this is the truth. I looked down at her and I said, do you know what? And she looked at me and she says, what? I said, this is going to be our song for the rest of our lives. And believe it or not, later on after we were married, well after that, every time she came up from Washington, D.C. to dance with the soldiers, I was there to greet her. Now, they were not supposed to get friendly with the guys because the guys were going to eventually ship out and the girls would naturally should forget the guy and then dance with the next guy. Well, she told me I could not get down to Washington to visit her. I did. I was 19 years old. You didn't tell me what I could do and what I could not do at that time. And I did what I wanted to do. I went down, met her grandparents. We became friends. And finally, we left. We had to be shipped out. And like I say, we got real friendly and went to Camp Shanks, New York, and from there over to New York City and got on a boat heading for somewhere. And halfway out, maybe five or six days out, a bunch of us guys, GIs, got on the deck and we started showing pictures of our girlfriends that we were waiting back in U.S.A., So I took my picture out of my wallet and passed it around. And just about halfway around, some guy says, wait a minute. And he reached in his wallet and he pulled out the same picture.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, what happened then?
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So I said a few choice words to myself, of course. And I said, boy, she must have really done something. Well, to end that part of the story, Later on, after we were married, I asked her about that. And she says to me, she says, honey, you got to realize we didn't know who was coming back. So we had plans, and I enjoy telling this. We had plan B, plan C, plan D, plan E. So she must have given pictures to a half a dozen different guys because a lot of the guys weren't going to come back. And she knew that. So she gave pictures to several guys. Fortunately, I was A. I was the top of the list, and I did come back. So we were married for 71 years. And three children still alive, still doing good. Unfortunately, she got dementia about six years ago and died. She had it for 10 years from the time she was 80 years old to the time she was 90 years old. And she passed away at 90. One of the most wonderful, personal, beautiful girls a guy ever met. She was 17 at the time, and I was 19. There's so many nice things I could say about her, Kim. And I brag about her. I make presentations to various organizations, Rotary, Veterans Group, and stuff like that concerning World War II. But she's the best part of the story that I tell. when I mention her and show slides of what she looked like. And she was well-built. She was a good-looking girl, well-built, athletic. She knew crafts, loved crafts, loved to cook, loved to bake. A man's dream, really, in finding the right woman. And I was blessed to have her, really have. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I just had a couple of questions. First of all, you did not get married until you came back then, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And then I tell you what, that's a little interesting story. I was in Rector's Restaurant in Washington, D.C. in 1946. And we were sitting across from each other. And I says to her, will you marry me? And she says, yes, on one condition. And I says, what's that? She says, I got a job. You got to get a job first. And I says, OK. She not only helped me find a job. And again, part of this story, she directed me to maritime service and they offered me a job at a thousand dollars a year. And I said to myself, I'm worth more than that. And then she directed me to the Department of Agriculture, and they offered me $1,440 a year. And I said, that's more like it. So I took the job with the Department of Agriculture. My first paycheck was $58 for two weeks, which meant I was receiving $29 a week. for the Department of Agriculture. Another unusual thing about that, agriculture was and still is, I guess, the second largest government building in the country. Pentagon is the first. And they paid us, believe it or not, in cash at that time. In cash. I don't know how many people we had in there. But the organization I was with, the agency, had 1,500 people in it. So we got married. Folks couldn't afford a wedding in a church or anything like that, so we were married by the justices of the peace. And wonderful wedding. Didn't have much to start off with. Matter of fact, we didn't have anything to start off with. We didn't have a place to stay when we got married. But my wife's sister had an apartment, and she loaned us for the weekend. Her and her husband went away someplace, and we had that for our honeymoon location. And then after that, we started going to work. After a year, she got pregnant and she approached me and says, well, we're going to have to get a babysitter. And I said, no. She said, why not? I said, we're not going to have children for somebody else to raise. I said, either you quit your job or I quit my job. But one of us are going to stay with the children. Well, she quit her job, never did go back to work. And I, we made out. And we did quite well for the 71 years we were married. We have three children. The daughter is now 76. The oldest boy is 74. And the youngest boy is 69. We have five, six great-great-grandchildren. That's five generations, all doing well. And what else can I tell you about my family?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and how many grandchildren?
SPEAKER 06 :
Grandchildren? Well, let's see. That would be one, two, six, five. Six. Five grandkids. And then we have a great-great. I think we got four. We got six great-greats.
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Thank you so much for listening to America's Veterans Stories. We are rebroadcasting some of the shows that we have recorded in the past because we have these amazing guests and these amazing stories, and we need to hear them. And so we thought that it would be a great idea to rebroadcast some of these so that you can hear our history and know our history because it is so important. So again, this is something that was recorded earlier, and thank you for listening.
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. I have on the line with me Andy Negra. He is a World War II veteran. But before we get back to the conversation, I wanted to mention a nonprofit that I dearly love, and that is the Center for American Values, which is located right here in Pueblo, Colorado. And Pueblo, Colorado is known as the home of heroes. Because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that called Pueblo home. And the Center for American Values is focusing on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And that is why the co-founders, Brad Padula, Emmy award-winning director, documentary producer, and Drew Dix, who is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took in the Vietnam War, they decided that they needed to put together a center that talked about these core values and honored our Medal of Honor recipients. So to get more information, go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Andy Negra. He is 99 years old, a World War II veteran. And we just had this fascinating story about him and meeting his wife. But Andy, I was thinking about it. You said you're five or six days into the ocean. You're headed to Europe. And you guys are all circled up pulling out pictures of your girlfriends. And you pull out the picture of your girlfriend. And another guy pulls out the same picture. And when you talked with your wife, you ended up marrying her. She said that we weren't sure who was coming home. And I think just let that sink in, first of all, to our listeners, just what that means exactly. So she said we have plan A, B, C, D, and E and all. But I also have to think, Andy, that you guys having a picture of a girlfriend that you thought you were coming home to, but somebody that you cared about, that had to help morale for each of the GIs, yes?
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I would say so, yes. I know it did me because I didn't give up on her. The way my attitude was, she's still my girlfriend. And when I got to France and got into the war, I started writing letters to her, and she began to respond in writing mail back to me as well as eventually sending me care packages with crackers and cigarettes. At that time, I smoked cigarettes. And what have you, little goody things that was coming from her. So I began to feel like, hey, I got somebody back here waiting for me. And I'm assuming the same thing with the other guys would feel the same way if she corresponded with them, too. I don't know that. I'll give you another little tidbit on that, Kim. She worked for Selective Service, which drafted the soldiers during World War II. So my thought on that was she not only drafted me, but she married me also.
SPEAKER 09 :
I love that, Andy Negri. I love that attitude. Okay, so let's get over now to you've, we talked about you being on the ship to go to Europe, and that was when? That would have been 1942?
SPEAKER 06 :
We got on the ship February, let's see, 44, 44. Probably 44. Well, 44, right. Well, I can remember, I think the discharge paper says February the 11th we departed U.S., and headed for parts unknown.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so you ended up in Europe, and so probably went, what, to England first, or what did the trip look like?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, we went to Barry Wills. Okay. I forget when we landed in Barry Wills. That's B-A-R-R-Y, I think it is. I've seen it spelled B-A-R-R-I-E. But I ended up in a... a replacement camp, and eventually I was sent to the 6th Armored Division, which I became part of the headquarters battery. And that was interesting, too. At the base, when I was transferred to the headquarters battery, You naturally get friends with all the guys. And one of the fellas that I was playing softball with, his mother and my wife's mother were schoolmates. Guy's name was Guy Andes. I still remember his name. I remember his wife's Lucy. I assume they're both pets now. I don't know. But anyhow, that was a coincidence. And then also... Right next to our camp was a British anti-aircraft unit made up of nothing but women. And what happened on that hill with us, they shot at the German airplanes that were bombing Cardiff, Wales, which was the capital of Wales. And then several nights, several days, they would be shooting at those bombers of Germans and Germans. causing a lot of ruckus. That was one thing. Another story I can remember very vaguely, but I can remember as we were, I was taking a helmet bath. Now, a helmet bath is you take your helmet, fill it up with water, and then wash yourself to the best that you could. And I can remember that one day I was taking a helmet bath, and then the women next door started shooting. And I grabbed shooting at the airplane and I grabbed my helmet and forgetting I had water in it. And I put it over my head. And there you go. I was soaking wet.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, my. I guess you probably probably were. So so obviously, if it was women that were manning the anti-aircraft guns. And thinking about the timing, the Allies are preparing for D-Day. And so that's probably why that occurred. You're in replacements. So during that time, February 44, and D-Day was June 6, 1944, what was happening with you in your camp?
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Well, during that time, all we did was practice on what we were being trained for. The odd thing about being trained for what I now, the new unit I was assigned to, when I left basic training, I was trained to be a headquarters typist. Otherwise, I was supposed to be in the office doing paperwork. When I left the basic training and transferred out, I never saw a typewriter. I could do 75 words a minute on a manual typewriter. I was good at it at that time. But once... training never saw a typewriter never saw anything relating to that i was assigned to a survey section which i can explain to you later on what exactly what we did but it related to finding the enemy and having our artillery aimed at that particular target and that was part of our duties at that time
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So explain to our listeners that don't quite understand. There's infantry and there's artillery. So explain to our listeners, you know, the difference between the two, the goals of each of the two.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the infantry are ground troops. Artillery are mechanized. We had 18 105 on our on our tanks. We were mechanized and they were self-fulfilled means that they automatic. Everything was done automatic by pushing, not pushing a button, but doing it in the manner that didn't take a lot of work. But yet you knew what you had to do. Infantry, everything was on the ground. They rode to their targets, but most of their work was to reach the enemy, push the enemy back, or destroy them. That was the deal. So we rode, infantry walked. Now, in a mechanized, like the armored division, They also rode as much as they could. Otherwise, the infantry were placed on half-tracks or vehicles or trucks and took them as close to the target as they possibly could. And then they got out of the trucks and went after the enemies. My slide presentation shows that a lot, different things that they had to do. Now, I rode a half-track. I rode a half-track for 1,500 miles from the time we landed at Utah Beach to the end of the war, which was at Rocklitz, Germany, on the Maldi River. That was 1,500 miles. So majority of the time there, we rode. I rode. I mean, we were strafed a lot of times, and we did a lot of odds and ends. You did a lot of foxhole and stuff. But once the threat had gone away, we would get into our half track and ride the way forward to wherever we were supposed to go.
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So when did you go on to Utah Beach then?
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July the 18th, 1944. And the reason I remember that is we could not land because we didn't have a place to land. And when you got heavy tanks like ours were, you had to have a place to land. Well, when we landed in Utah Beach, we landed at Utah Beach, the enemy was about 20 miles away. So we were close. However, the land that we landed on was secure. And as we, and I'll never forget this, as we landed and we're getting off of the landing craft, I heard my voice call. And I looked down on the side of the half track, and here's this guy that lived about four houses away from where I lived back in Brownsville, Pennsylvania. To me, I said to myself, what an amazing thing with the thousands and thousands of soldiers on that landing area. Here's one from my hometown standing on the side of the thing. His name was George Dankovich. And... And he yelled up, I yelled down, and I never did see him after that. I don't know what happened, but I know it was an amazing thing to run into him at that time.
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Oh my gosh, that is absolutely remarkable. And again, just all these little stories of what was happening. So you went on probably about six weeks after the initial D-Day landings, and yes, that was secure. I imagine there was a lot of activity going on on those beaches at that time. And so I'm talking with World War II veteran Andy Negra. And a sponsor that I greatly appreciate for America's Veterans Stories is Hooters Restaurants. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora on Parker Road. And great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. Great place to get together with your friends to watch the sporting events and just have some great food. In particular, their fish and chips and their nachos are delicious. I hear that their fish tacos are quite good as well. So again, thank you to Hooters Restaurants for their sponsorship of the show.
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Thank you so much for listening to America's Veterans Stories. We are rebroadcasting some of the shows that we have recorded in the past because we have these amazing guests and these amazing stories, and we need to hear them. And so we thought that it would be a great idea to rebroadcast some of these so that you can hear our history and know our history because it is so important. So again, this is something that was recorded earlier, and thank you for listening. And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. So honored to have on with me, the line with me, World War II veteran Andy Negra. And again, Andy, I think we've got this. You were... Being part of Patton's 3rd Army, the 6th Armored Division, 128th Armored Field Artillery Battalion, and Headquarters Battery. So you are now on the beaches, Utah Beach in Europe on June 18, 1944. What happens after that, Andy Negra?
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Once we landed, our destination at that time was St. Marie, England. And I did visit it on my recent trip to France. And the reason we went there was it was a place to get all of the 6th Armored Division together to begin our operation in the fight. So it took us a week and a half to get all of the units together, otherwise the artillery, the infantry, the mechanics, the service batteries, all of that together. And about a week and a half later, we got orders to have our first project was to reach Brest. Now, Brest was a city fortified by the Germans on the British Channel. And our General Patton told us, that's your target. We won it. So from that day on, we headed towards Brest. Everything was fine until we reached the town called Avaranchis. Avaranchis, five German Me 109s, which are fighters, a German fighter plane, strafed our column. And I can remember clearly of getting out of the half track because the columns were just vehicle to vehicle all in the head. And that's what the armored division does. And I got out of the vehicle. I ran out into an open field, hid behind a well. And I don't know why, but all five of those ME-109s shot at that well, and I was the only guy behind it. When they got through shooting... I got up behind. They missed me, of course. And then I got up and the log that holds the rope that goes down into the well was split in half. And I said to myself, that was close. So anyhow, yeah, that was close. And that was close. And the odd part about it, Kim, was all five of them were shooting at this well. And I couldn't understand that. I said, our vehicles were hidden underneath the trees. But there I was out there by myself. And whether or not they saw me or not, I don't know. They must have saw me because they aimed all five of them, took crack at shooting it that well. And good Lord willing, he saved my life. And I got out of that. And I'll add a little more to it. But I went back to France this year, this summer. a couple weeks ago, I asked them to see if they can find that well. And they're now looking to see if they can't find that well. And when I go back next year, good Lord willing, they're going to take me to that well, and I'm going to look at it and reminisce again a little bit about what happened. So from there, we went on. We went through the hedgerow. We captured general spots. He was trying to round up his soldiers to move him to Brest. Unfortunately, he backed up into one of our units, and we captured the general and put him under arrest. And we went on to Brest. And once we got to Brest, we found out that they were so fortified. The area we went through was fortified with Germans. There was at least 40,000 German soldiers in that area. And they were trying to round them up and move them into the area of the Brest Peninsula. And fortunately, we split that up. The duty to me, in my opinion, of course, I'm no foe, but anyhow, the duty was to split the enemy and let the remnants be left to the guys that are following us, the infantry and whatever was in back of us. So our job was to penetrate, divide, and get to the target. And once we got to Brest, we found out that they had another 25,000, 30,000 Germans inside of the Brest area. And they wanted us to take it, which was only one division. Powers to be found out that we couldn't do it. So they pulled us out of there and moved us towards Lorient, another port. And I found out later that it took two infantry divisions and two artillery divisions, plus some other divisions, to finally take Brest. And it took over a month and a half to finally capture the Brest Peninsula. So you can see it was a very difficult time at this time. From Lorient, we went on to, we relieved the 4th Infantry, the 4th Armored Division, and they had surrounded Lorient. At that time, I had my first experience with the artillery, I mean with the tank. They had a guy short on that tank, so they pulled me out of the survey section, put me on a tank, and I learned how to load a gun, the barrel of the tank, and shoot. And we were outside of the tank, and then the Germans spotted us, and they started shelling that tank. Well, fortunately, we got back into the tank, and none of us got hit by the shrapnel where the burst of the shells would be above the tank. But none of us got hurt. That was my first experience. I was taught how to load a gun. Otherwise, grab the shell, put it in the barrel, use your fist instead of your fingers, ram the shell into the barrel. Your hand would automatically be pushed out of the way. If you used your fingers... you would lose your fingers. If you use your fingers, you'd lose them. So use your fists. I learned that. Then from Lorient, we went into Nancy. And from Nancy, France, Word got that Patton had heard rumors about the trouble up in the north part of the country and ordered us to get ready to move. From Nancy, we moved to a town called Metz. Metz was a fortified position by the Germans, well-prepared, well-dependent, kill boxes, you name it. But it was taken, and we got there on December 24th. And on December the 24th, this surprised me no end. Trucks rolled up, and we had Christmas Eve at that particular time. Rain, snow, sleet, you name it, it was the worst conditions anybody could be out on. And they brought this turkey and cranberry sauce and stuff and all of the goodies that happened to Christmas Day. And they brought it to me. And to this day, I'm not only thankful, but I feel that they did such a tremendous job in getting it to our troops. Thank you. The next morning, Christmas morning, we headed north, went to Luxembourg, and this was bumper to bumper all the way up the road. They didn't have paved roads. It was dirt roads, muddy roads, and as I say, it was cold. We got to Luxembourg. We got out of our half tracks, found a place to stay. It was a two-lane bowling alley. We spent the night. Everybody that could get into that bowling alley got into it because, actually, it was still nasty out. Then the next morning, we went into Bastogne. We were there next to the 101st Airborne. We stayed there for two or three weeks, I think it was. And it's in the history book. I don't remember all of the days. Kim, but I can remember being in Bastogne. We looked for a place to stay, and we found an old house with the roof gone and everything else, but it was enough to prevent the cold air from reaching us. We all wore all the socks we could wear, the warm sweaters and warm jackets, everything we could, because history shows that this was the coldest and worst winter temperature that that area ever had for a long 30, 40 years. That's how cold it was and how bad it was. And if you remember history, the ceiling was low, our planes could not be used, and we fought and defended that town.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then on... When you got there, so... I'm familiar with Bastogne, the story, but they'd already been... The 101st Airborne was in trouble, right? Because didn't that start a little bit earlier in December? And when you said the ceiling was low... What that means is the cloud cover was so low that you couldn't have any supplies dropped by airplanes. 101st Airborne was in trouble, and so Patton takes you guys up there to help them. Am I getting that correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's correct. Somehow he got word that there was trouble, and we were ordered to get ready and move. So we all naturally got the 6th Armored Division, got together, and we were taking a little break. Another thing history shows that we went 231 straight days without stopping of fighting in the war. 231 days of steady fighting. And so the 6th Armored Division, I was extremely proud. Once I heard all of that, I was extremely proud of the division and what we did. So...
SPEAKER 09 :
That is amazing if you really think about it. 231 days of steady fighting. And, I mean, you talk about trying to find places to sleep, but during that terrible weather and cold, also sometimes you ended up just sleeping in the elements, yes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And it wasn't that. The houses were all shut up and torn down by artillery shells and the Germans bombing and other things. There wasn't a building that was... Together, in Bastogne, as I recollected, and we found one that had partial protection, and that's where we stayed. But you wore all of the clothes, and that's another incident that happened. They were short a guy on a tank again. So they stuck me on a tank. And I'll never forget this. That's how close it was. The sergeant of the tank said, guys, we're right in the middle of the Germans. We're on the outskirts of Bastogne. Don't talk. Don't do anything to make a noise. Around midnight, I heard voices outside the tank. And sure enough, there were Germans talking right outside that tank. And I'll never know, understand why they didn't check that tank out. But all they did was lean against the tank, talk and talk and talk. And we were barely breathing, so we didn't want to make any noise whatsoever. Got up the next morning and found out that they had left, and we pulled out of that area, if I recall correctly. So that was another adventure of mine that I can... I figured it was a close call. It could have been the end of my life. They had just been curious and tried to get into the tank, but they did not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, my gosh, that's remarkable. The good Lord was watching over you. I'm talking with Andy Negra. He is a World War II veteran, and we will be right back with Andy Negra.
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Thank you so much for listening to America's Veterans Stories. We are rebroadcasting some of the shows that we have recorded in the past because we have these amazing guests and these amazing stories, and we need to hear them. And so we thought that it would be a great idea to rebroadcast some of these so that you can hear our history and know our history because it is so important. So again, this is something that was recorded earlier, and thank you for listening. And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. I have on the line with me World War II veteran Andy Negra. And we're talking about Battle of the Bulge. Is there anything else that you think our listeners should know about Battle of the Bulge, Andy?
SPEAKER 06 :
No. Once we started pushing the Germans back... It was strictly offensive from then on. We knew what we were doing. We got to the Yar River. We got to the Siegfried Line. And on our way towards the end of the thing, we came to a concentration camp called Buchenwald. It was the second largest concentration camp of prisoners in Germany. And Auschwitz, I think, was the first and the worst concentration. Well, as we came up on that camp, all I can remember was that it was a big high fence, about 30 feet high, and inside I could see some prisoners just walking slowly by and talking to one another. And there wasn't a huge crowd in there. I found out later about it. We did not go in. Our particular unit did not go in to see the prisoners or anything else like that. But there are stories that Eisenhower and Bradley and Patton all came to visit that camp. They also got the German local people. that never knew what was going into that camp and they brought those people into that into that camp and showed them the ovens the bodies the pile of bones and all of that stuff they showed those people and those people were astonished that their own german soldiers were doing that to people But anyhow, they got a shot at it, and they finally saw what was going on in there. And the people were told to clean up, too. I think there was a lot more to that story than I could tell because I didn't witness it. We left there, went to the Maldi River. ended the war there. We couldn't go beyond the Maldi River because the Russians were coming on the other side. So they stopped us there, and that's where the war ended as far as we were concerned. And then on the 6th Armored Division... was released and sent back to the States. I did not have enough points to go with them. I was transferred to the 2nd Armored Division. 2nd Armored Division was assigned to go to Berlin. And if you can recall the history on that, there was four countries occupying Berlin at the time. Britain, United States, France. And let's see, who was the fourth? It was France, Britain, United States, and Russia. Russia was the fourth. We all occupied sections of that town. I had a little experience there of finding a couple of Russian soldiers in our territory, and I had to take them back to the Russian area. I spoke a little Russian at the time. From there, I didn't have enough points to go with the 2nd Armored Division back to the States. I was transferred to the 36th Infantry Division. 36th Infantry Division was released, and we headed home. I remember going past the Rock of Gibraltar and going on home, landed at Camp Kilmer, New Jersey, then to Indiantown Gap, got my discharge, transferred from Indiantown Gap. I was released. Got on the train. It was winter. I think it was December of 45. Arrived in Pittsburgh, called his friend of mine. This was 2 o'clock in the morning. Called his friend of mine in Brownsville. He came up from Brownsville, which is about 35, 40 miles at the time. And he picked me up and took me back home. Got settled there a little bit. No big welcome because it was quite a few months or so after the war was ended. I started communicating with my future wife when traveled by train back and forth, a train or bus to go to Syria. Finally made a proposal, which I mentioned to you early. She got me the job. And from then on, had a beautiful life. Not a hard time, but it took us a while to make something of ourselves, and we certainly did. We lived in a government project for several years, finally moved on to a department, finally moved out to Kansas City with the Department of Agriculture. They wanted me there for four years of field training. Came back. They called me back to Washington. Finished out there. Retired at the age of 55 and been retired now for well over 40-some years. Still in fairly good, decent health. Let's see what else I could tell you. Been happy ever since, unfortunately, when my wife passed away. It did add a little, it added lots of sorrow to my life, but that's the way life is. And the more I could tell you, Kim, is that the good Lord's blessed me. I've had a beautiful life. I have a lot, a lot of friends. People have been exceptionally good to me, more than sometimes I deserve. But I'm one of these guys, if it's something good and it's offered to you, accept it. If it's something bad, ignore it. I'm a good philosopher.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great advice. We've got just a few minutes left, but this year you went back to France for the anniversary for D-Day, and just tell us a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
One of the most wonderful things that ever happened to myself. That was very odd and real quickly too, Kim. A friend of mine that lives in this development where I live at called up and he says, Andy, he says, would you like to go to France? And I said, what's going on? He said, well, they're getting a bunch of World War II veterans from all over the country and they're going to fly them to France and they're going to celebrate D-Day. And I said to myself, well, let me think about it. In the past few years, my children said, no, Dad, it's too hard for you to go and fly on that airplane for eight straight hours. We don't think you should go. Well, I said to myself this time. These guys that are going are all in the 90s and maybe in the 100s. They're going. They're not in perfect health. So if these guys can go and fly that plane, there is 44 of us, why can't I? I'm just as good as healthy as they are, and whatever problems they got, I may have the same problem as they do if they don't have different ones. So I told my family, I'm going. And I made up my mind. I informed this best defense foundation. I notified Delta and I notified Michelin, who is the main sponsor of this trip, that I was going to go. And all arrangements were made. The only difficulty I had was I didn't have a passport. And when I went to get a passport, I said, how come I need a passport now in World War II? I didn't need one.
SPEAKER 09 :
True that. Were you not just amazed, and we only have a minute left, Andy, but the welcome and the fact that children in Normandy are still taught about World War II, but the children in America, not so much. So what would you say to that?
SPEAKER 06 :
I say that it's terrible that the United States don't teach history. Everyone, while I was there, I addressed a psychology class. Kids were 14 or 15 years old. I addressed to them. I also was greeted by 1,200 kids. When I say I, I was part of the 14th. the 44 guys, but I spoke to them. Every one of those kids down to elementary every year are taught about World War II. They're taught history. They're reminded of history. And when we went to visit these 1,200 children, they were all greeting us like you would never, ever believe that we could do it. They waved American flags, French flags, shook our hands. They gave us pictures of me holding my picture of World War II. I was holding it. And I was to pass them out. I had 1,000 of them. And I passed them out to these kids, whoever asked for it. And I had signed many of them. And they were so thankful and so blessed. I was also given two kids to be pen pals. I met one of them, and her name was Camille. One was 14 years old, and one was 11. I met Camille, a 14-year-old, and we became very dear friends. I got her address. I'm going to write to her. The 11-year-old couldn't, somewhere, someplace else, could not make the reunion of meeting me. They wrote me letters and asked me to meet them and what have you. So that was a wonderful, wonderful experience. And all of those kids, no matter where we went, the highlight of my trip was St. Marie English because over 20,000 people showed up to greet these 44 World War II veterans.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, my gosh. Andy, this is so remarkable. We are out of time. But Andy Negra, thank you so much for sharing your story with us. Indeed, we stand on the shoulders of giants, my friends. God bless you and God bless America.
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Join Bill Gundersen in this insightful episode as we dissect the recent trends in the stock market, highlighted by the surging gold prices and market rallies. With critical analysis, Bill provides a deep dive into the factors influencing these movements, including the fear surrounding tariffs and the unpredictability of market tops. Listen as we explore the nuances of navigating such a dynamic landscape with strategic investment planning.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome to the Monday morning. Let's see, we are at September the 29th already. It's the September 29th, Monday edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson. Not sure what happened here. The Dow was up 300. Now it's down 50. Something turned around there. We're at 46,192. The NASDAQ, on the other hand, however, is... Oh, by the way, this is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. The NASDAQ, on the other hand, is up 193,22,677. I don't believe that's a new all-time high. Answering the question of was last Monday the high of the market, well, we don't know yet. If it exceeds this week, that old high, then it wasn't. But if it never hits that high again, then it was. And there's two types of tops in the market, and we talked about that in the newsletter over the weekend. The S&P is up 40 basis points right now. Gold is hitting a new all-time high. Man, I'll tell you what, what a rally for gold. Do you know how much the gold reserves of America have added? I think it's a trillion dollars over there at Fort Knox. Well, I mean... Make America wealthy again, right?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I mean, it was in that trading range of like $3,500 to $3,250, and then you called it once it broke out of that $3,500 range.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, it's just been a rocket ship ever since.
SPEAKER 1 :
$3,849.
SPEAKER 04 :
So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. A fee-based only nationwide firm, money management firm. And this is going to be a very active week in the market once again. You know, it would be nice to just be passive and just report today. Your birthday is this week. You're going to turn 65. You need to move one more percent into the bond market. So you have 65% and you need to lower your exposure to stocks by 1%. We'll talk to you again next quarter, 90 days from now. Well, you know what? I just don't buy that Kool-Aid. I have never drank the Kool-Aid. which is pretty prevalent out there on Wall Street, and I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's hard to not take a sip out there, right? You might fall right into it.
SPEAKER 04 :
It would make my life a lot easier. I could just say, here's what we're going to do in 90 days from now. I'm going fishing. All right, well, we have a good start to the market so far. The question I asked two weeks ago was, is this the top? Now, I don't mean the ultimate top, the end of the bull market that began in 2009. We're talking about this little uptrend within the bull market here that began on April the 9th of this year and has carried the market. This is one of the most torrid runs in the market that I've seen today. In my career, 25-year career as a professional money manager, and at some point there will be a top to this latest rally, and we will level off, and then you're liable to see a correction, maybe 10%, 20%, 15%. Who knows? We take it one stock at a time. We don't know if last Monday. Last Monday the markets hit new all-time highs. We could go today. And then failed to match those numbers throughout the week. So right now you could make the case that last Friday or last Monday was the recent top in the market on this bull run. But we've got to give it time. You know what? Every time we think there's a top, Barry, it goes on to make new highs. I thought gold had made a top at $3,600 several weeks ago. Months ago, maybe. Maybe it's been seven or eight weeks. And I did cut my gold position, our gold position, in half. And I kind of regret it. We also had a big gain in Agnico Eagle, AEM, which we sold. One of the best gold stocks in the entire market. And, well, I got back into it, Nico Eagle. Sometimes you have to admit you're wrong. You have to swallow your pride, be a man, man up, say, you know, I was wrong. And we did keep, though, the other half position in our gold position. In our portfolios, it's been the best performing asset class this year.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, and some of the momentum came out of it. I mean, it was in that range of $3,500 to $3,250 essentially from end of April to September 1st. But since September 1st, gold is up 9.5%.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, my theory was that gold was moving on the fear of the Trump tariffs. And we seem to have most of the tariffs settled for now. You know, they are where they are. They don't look to be moving. And I thought maybe, and gold did cool off considerably. But then all of a sudden, boom, shakalaka, it took off again. And I said, you know what? So here's what gold, the gold rally has lifted the U.S. reserves up. Don't forget, okay, a company has a balance sheet and an income statement. The U.S. has an income statement, which doesn't look very good.
SPEAKER 01 :
Not a great income statement.
SPEAKER 04 :
Two trillion in losses every year. But the income's going up. from the tariffs, right? We may get to a trillion dollars in income in tariffs. Don't forget, too, that the capital gains are going to add a lot of income to those income statements. I think there's a lot of people in the Trump administration that understand how an income statement works. I don't think we've had many administrations in the past that had any clue how an income statement works. But there's also a balance sheet which lists what you own Now, think about it. We own Alaska. I mean, we own Texas. We own Louisiana. We've got some pretty valuable assets. We own Hawaii. And we have a lot of gold reserves on our balance sheet. And that balance sheet has gone up by one. Well, it's reached a record. Our gold that America owns is now worth $1 trillion. So I guess you could say, like I say, make America rich again, M-A-R-A, as gold hits another record and surges above 3,800 on today. And gold is up over 40%. As of August 31st, the Treasury held around 260 million troy ounces of gold. Now, I want them to open up Fort Knox. They said they were going to do it, and I just want to make sure it's in there. But I guess they don't want to give any criminals, you know, what if that thing's hit with a missile? You know, maybe it's a decoy. Maybe we shouldn't tell. I mean, if you had your gold buried in your backyard, you're not going to tell very many people. You're not going to have a documentary on TV. This is where I buried my gold. And it might not all be there. Yes. Okay, now the other reserve, the U.S. doesn't own any yet, but someday there may be a cryptocurrency reserve. Crypto shed $250 billion in value last week. But interesting to see. In fact, Bitcoin was down 5.2% and Ethereum was down 9.7% last week. Me personally, I would rather have gold in my backyard than my Bitcoin. I don't know that I can bear it because Bitcoin is not tangible. I can't hold it in my hand. That's just me. Other people disagree with me. But you know what? That's what a market is. It's a bunch of opinions and the market decides where that price is at. Bitcoin is having a very strong recovery today. It's up over $3,000. It's back up to $113 after getting down to $109. But it's been as high as 124, okay? So we're just going to have to see whether the sell-off in Bitcoin is over. You could say, too, when the market cools off, Bitcoin gets a lot chillier, right?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, it's a measure of, to me, a measure of risk appetite right in the market where biotech has always kind of been that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
And small caps.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yep, small cap and high P.E. ratio.
SPEAKER 04 :
And high beta stocks and Cathie Wood's ARC funds, to me, is kind of the ultimate equities risk-on, risk-off indicator. She had a bad week last week. I think she was down 5.6%, something like that. It was a risk-off kind of week last week. There were a couple days in particular that I think last Wednesday was kind of ugly. But now, okay, so the big news now today, I'm going to say, is will we have a government shutdown? Most people would never notice the difference, right, of the government shutdown, federal government, that is. In fact, they might even cheer the fact, save a little money that day, a little bureaucracy that day. But is a lot of people impacted today? It would cause a lot of chaos. Trump is convening his cabinet, the Congress today. He's having several key people in the Oval Office to see if they can hash something out. And it seems like, at least for now, both sides are pretty much dug, feet are dug into the sand and not budging. with the deadline at midnight tomorrow. So kind of interesting to see the markets rallying in front of that big unknown, but we'll take it. We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Speaking of quarters, the end of the third quarter will happen tomorrow when the bell rings. Can you believe it? I mean, that went by fast, didn't it? That was a quick quarter, and it was an excellent quarter. in the markets. We're hitting new all-time highs today here at Gundersen Capital Management. The Dow's down 40 right now, but the NASDAQ hanging on to those gains up 190. And when I looked at who some of the leaders in the market were just a moment ago, I sent out my little blast, which I do every morning. You know, I saw Alibaba up 5.1%. Robinhood having a very good day, up over 3%. Arista Networks is up over 3%. And how about this? Our biggest position, NVIDIA, no wonder we're hitting new highs today, is up 3.2% today. So very good day. The nuclear power stocks are lagging a little bit here today so far.
SPEAKER 01 :
Good news for DoorDash and Alibaba, too. I didn't see that. Pretty solid day. DoorDash, yeah, they had a story. I guess they've increased their partnership with Kroger, which kind of, I guess, helps pull some market share from Instacart just in terms of delivering stuff. So just another, you know, we kind of think of DoorDash.
SPEAKER 04 :
What was BABA's news there?
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm not sure on that.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's up 5.1% today, so BABA has really taken off. Like I say, I made a case for Alibaba because of its trading in the 13-15. 22 forward PUE ratio. Yeah, it's rising now, but it's way lower than NVIDIA and Palantir at 233 and whatnot.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, Procter & Gamble trades just under 22. Well, there you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'd rather own BABA than Procter & Gamble in a Chinese second there. But, you know, China's also the leading index by country, I believe. It's up about 40% so far this year. And I think it's their exposure to AI. The AI race, they're definitely the main contender to the middleweight crown here with their AI against us.
SPEAKER 01 :
And they had been a laggard just in general, right, in terms of their market had been a laggard really since COVID. And so finally, you know, kind of I think in terms of investment kind of getting back in vogue a little bit.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, absolutely. And so anyways, that's good news there on BABA. I did use DoorDash on Saturday. I had two Primo hoagies delivered to the front door.
SPEAKER 1 :
$3.50.
SPEAKER 04 :
I thought, I can leave writing my newsletter and drive over to Primo Hoagies and pick up a couple of hoagies. That's 45 minutes out of my day.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's tricky getting out of that parking lot, too. You've got to risk your life out there on 17 coming out of that. Yeah, and it's a dangerous U-turn. It is.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I figure, look, I make $10 an hour. That's what they pay me. And I figured for $3.50, it's worth it to have it delivered to my door. And then I tip the guy. I've got to tip. I'm a good tipper.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's a quality sandwich, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's a good sandwich. You know, I think it's the best. All right. Now, oil. Oil cannot sustain a rally. We own one oil-related stock. We own LNG, which is the blue chip number one play on liquid natural gas. And it just really has not done anything this year. In fact, I read the oil execs are getting a little anxious with President Trump. He was supposed to be the drill baby drill guy, but with oil at $63 a barrel. I mean, that's good for the consumer and the economy, but it's not good for the oil patch.
SPEAKER 01 :
I was curious if we've been filling back up the oil reserves. I would think so, at $62 a barrel. I would hope so, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
BP approves a $5 billion project off the U.S. Gulf Coast. Okay, now that, Biden made that off limits. The Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of the United States, whatever you want to call it, depending whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, that's how you call the, you know, politics has gotten into everything, even on maps now, Barry. yeah uh so anyways we'll call it we'll call it the gulf off of the u.s and between the u.s and mexico five billion dollar project which biden made that all off limits right they tried bp actually yeah i mean growing up on the gulf coast right there bp had a bad oil spill and yes and and you know
SPEAKER 01 :
That was probably what, I guess, maybe 15 years ago now. I'm trying to go back in my head, maybe a little longer. And the crabs. And so I'm surprised that BP is the one who actually has the deal.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it was which offshore drilling? Not Weatherford. I can't think of it. It was one of the big offshore drilling.
SPEAKER 01 :
Not Baker Hughes.
SPEAKER 04 :
No. And it was their equipment that blew up. Oh, was it not Gemini?
SPEAKER 01 :
It was something like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll think of it in a minute. Okay, here's another macro target. I put out my macro target every Saturday. That's important because that drives the bus. That's the driver of the bus. The seats behind the bus are the sectors and the stocks and the asset classes, but the driver of the bus is the market. which is 80% of the move. So you take a day like today where the market's up, well, most of the stocks are going to be up. Belsky, Brian Belsky, who I like, he's more of a technical strategist from my experience of watching him over the years. He was with First Trust, I think, for many years, or Oppenheimer, or one of those. Now he's with BMO. which is Bank of Montreal, he lifts his S&P target price to $7,000 and calls 2025 a bull run. And, you know, I raised my target price a little bit two weeks ago, and I'm pretty close to that, so I must not be too crazy. You've got a guy like Belsky. And that's pretty much been, you know, these ones that have come in recently from Goldman Sachs, these targets and others have been up around that 6,800 to 7,000 range. And we're currently down at 6,600 in the S&P. So they're saying that the earnings expectations can support earnings. A higher market. The issue we're having right now is not earnings. It's the multiple. It's the multiple on those earnings, which is approaching 23 forward P.E. ratio. And the P.E. of the S&P is 27. We hit 30. back in the sugar high year of 2021. So that 30 could be something to watch also as maybe an indicator of a top in this recent run if we get up to a PE of 30. We'll just see. We take it a day at a time. Eli Lilly upgraded at CFRA. You know what? I still say that's a miracle drug. Anybody who has ever tried to lose weight and has failed at it with the counting of the calories and the exercise. You'll lose weight. I've seen too many testimonials of people that have lost 40, 50, 60, even 80 pounds with a simple shot in the stomach once a week. It's a miracle drug, and I just don't see how Lily can't be a long-term winner over time. We'll be right back. And I wonder what it's good for.
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I've been in the right place.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, office space is making a comeback in San Francisco. That's hard to believe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, I used to love going there. you know, before COVID, and downtown San Francisco went way downhill. And I don't know that it'll ever come back to what it was, but it was one of the great places. It still is a great place to go, but I used to go up there from San Diego when I was working at a firm in San Diego, and I covered some stocks there. As an analyst and would visit some mutual funds, Franklin Templeton, or Franklin, it wasn't Franklin Templeton back then, Franklin Funds I would visit and GT Global and Polynews and several hedge funds. And the buzz there downtown, Barry, was like the buzz that we saw in the Silicon Valley, you know, last two weeks ago. And when the market closed at 1 p.m., oh, boy, all of the restaurants around there and everything, there was a real buzz. There was a buzz in the morning, traffic coming in, the cable cars, the fog starting to burn off. You know, it was just a great spot.
SPEAKER 01 :
And you had Intel cashing the cash register while we were there. That was unique. ByteDance was doing the deal. I saw one of their buildings there. And of course, they were in the middle of doing the TikTok deal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tesla was cranking out humanoid robots while we were there. But anyways, AI needs more humans. Well, I could have told you that. You know what? I have AI built into my app, but I still drive the bus of that AI engine and make the final decisions, not AI. But the AI company demand for people jolts the San Francisco office market, which has suffered from the highest availability rate in the nation. Wow. And that's not just because people working from home, but it's also, you know, what the political leaders let San Francisco become and kind of looking the other way and, if anything, kind of encouraging it and feeling sorry for the homeless and whatnot. It really changed the dynamics, unfortunately. We used to go stay at the Sheraton Palace downtown. Oh, my gosh, what a beautiful place. And all the great restaurants and everything. But anyways, AI is helping out. San Francisco has long anchored the Silicon Valley ecosystem and the city the city once again is at the forefront so who knows maybe on one of our trips to the Bay Area which we plan to make several next year We'll be downtown San Francisco. I know a couple of my grandkids would certainly love to go along on that trip. So anyways, it's turning the corner, which is good. I like to see that, the office. How about Electronic Arts going private in a historic $55 billion leveraged buyout deal led by private equity firms? I'll tell you, the two big ones these days, Silver Lake has really become a big, big private equity firm.
SPEAKER 01 :
uh and then saudi arabia's public investment fund they must play a lot of madden uh football i mean that's saudi arabia that's what i think of when i think of da or yeah i mean my kid my uh you know we've got the two younger boys a 13 and 11 year old yeah i mean madden and uh i think it's fc 26 which is a soccer game um Any and every sport game, it's always EA Sports.
SPEAKER 04 :
It shows up on the screen. And also the Sims. Do they play the Sims?
SPEAKER 01 :
No, they're not into that one. But I do remember that title years and years ago, early computer games.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I can remember when these computer game companies, I can remember when EA was one of the hottest stocks in the entire market, and they were hiring people. Really, that's where NVIDIA cut its teeth was with their graphics cards.
SPEAKER 01 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is the biggest leverage buyout in the history, $55 billion, and then they're going to take it private. And then Affinity Partners is another one, and that's led by CEO Jared Kushner, son-in-law of President Trump. JP Morgan also is in on the deal. So the stock is up, I think, 20% or 25% today. It's also a big deal for Goldman Sachs. They'll earn a lot of fees in a deal like that. Taiwan semiconductor dismisses reports of Intel partnership. Well, Intel has been a very perky stock recently after being dead in the water for years. And Intel first got the investment from the U.S. government. it finally broke above that 2750 area and is now at $34. It's added $7 a share or about 25% to its value here. And then while we were in the Silicon Valley, the investment by Nvidia, into intel also made the news and taiwan semiconductor today is denying that they are making an investment in i'm sure they look at intel as much more of a competitor which I would think NVIDIA would, too. But NVIDIA obviously sees something in Intel that they think could add. And, of course, they invested in Intel.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I mean, they had $84 billion in cash. They invested $5 billion. And, I mean, at worst, right, I mean, it kind of, you know, number one, it may help at least spread out some of their concentration in terms of supply chain, right, being concentrated. I'm basically fully stuck with Taiwan Semi at the moment, so that could help. Also, I think it kind of gets them in the good graces of the administration in terms of, hey, we'll help out with the Intel deal.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's also important to remember that when you own NVIDIA, which is up 3.2% today, you own a piece of OpenAI technology. Intel, and all the other investments, Databricks, whatever else.
SPEAKER 01 :
And they've been investing in a lot of healthcare, AI. I mean, they're really, to me, kind of almost like building their own ecosystem to a certain extent, trying to be in all parts of potential uses of AI.
SPEAKER 04 :
It helps to have a hoard of cash. You can make a lot of money if you have a hoard of cash, okay? It takes money to make money. It takes money to make money. Now, I don't talk about penny stocks too often, but every once in a while, I'm especially interested in the rare earth sector right now. And I saw this one. I actually added it to the Best Stocks Now app. And it does trade on the pink sheets, Lodestar Metals. But what caught my eye was it's in Nevada. And Nevada, we're finding out through MP Materials, which is there on the Nevada-California border, Mountain Pass. Mountain Pass has drawn investments from the U.S. government, and Apple made a big investment in them. So I just looked at this Lodestar Metals, SVTNF. I said, this is $0.05 a share, but it's up like 400% this year. So just for fun, Barry, I added it to the app. And from time to time, who knows, maybe it'll be $1. Maybe it'll be $0.08 someday, a double. I don't know. But we'll follow that one. Keep an eye on it. You never know. You know, people buy lottery tickets. They bet on 99 to 1 shots at the harness races and stuff like this. So why not? Barrick names Hill interim president CEO as Bristow departs. Well, Barrick is the blue chip stock. And when you're looking at the gold markets, you can own the physical gold which America apparently has $1 trillion. Now, that's not counting the gold under the ground in America that hasn't been mined yet. I mean, how much is in Alaska, for instance, that has not been brought out of the ground yet? Still looking for it and other things. But you can also own the stocks of the gold miners. They seem to be a little more leveraged than the price of gold itself. And Barrick has been one of the best performing stocks in the market this year. It's hitting a new all-time high. It's now a $59 billion company. Been around for a long time. They're headquartered in Toronto. And they have a new CEO. There's a lot of good gold stocks. Agnico Eagle is a good gold stock. AEM, that's the one we own. in the ultra growth portfolio uh... and uh... newmont also is a very large gold player okay when we come back we're going to talk about the father of the space force he now has a link with one of the quantum computing companies and israel has got one heck of a defense stock that has been a very good performer over the years. And we've got some earnings today from Carnival. Have you taken a cruise lately? We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 06 :
We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and Barry Kydar, chartered financial analyst and certified financial planner. And other stocks in the news. IonQ.com. Now, we don't currently have any – quantum stocks are out there on the horizon. Okay. I mean, you've got to look way out on the ocean right about when you lose the line of sight.
SPEAKER 01 :
Pick the right one.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and there's a lot of ships out there, IonQ and Quantum this and Quantum that and what's Rigetti computing. They had a good week last week. But that's the Cathie Woods territory, right? Those are considered, what does she call her? Innovation, innovation. But I also say they're long-term. They're long-term. There's no earnings on the horizon. Hopefully, your ship will come in someday and the earnings will be there. But in the meantime, stocks like this belong in our... I created a portfolio for basically... Every kind of category of stock that I personally like. I like proven big winners over the years in the large caps, right? That eliminates the Johnson & Johnson's. At one time they were, but not anymore. Time has passed them by. Today it's NVIDIA. And it's Lilly and others that have replaced them. And then I like one step below that, the wannabes that want to become those big cap stocks, past that $100 billion mark in market capitalization. That's been a very fertile area of the market. Since we created the portfolios for Seeking Alpha back on January 1st of 2019, the ultra growth has done the best by far because there's a little more inefficiency there. in that part of the market. Those stocks aren't as owned as the big guys are, the metas and whatnot of the world. And I really love that area of the market myself. And you can look at the performance of that since January 1st, 2019. And then you go down below that one step, and we created the value, the relative value, which you've got something that's maybe out of favor right now, that once was a best stock now. AMD falls into that category. Chipotle falls into that category. We picked Alibaba up when the PE got down to about 13%. We've made some really, really nice buys in that value. I personally, I funded that with $100,000, and that is the model for that portfolio. So I know exactly where it's at at any given point in time by just looking at that portfolio that I funded it with, and I'm very pleased with it so far. And then the fourth one down the line is the emerging growth. It is up 30% so far this year. This is a year, I mean, that has favored a lot a little. This is where you're going to find Oklo, nanonuclear that want to build these small modular reactors. You don't want to have 50% of your retirement in this area.
SPEAKER 01 :
And Barry decides those allocations, right? Yeah. Right, and they benefited, obviously, from multiple expansion as well, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, multiple interest rates, a favorable interest rate environment with an easing cycle by the Fed. But I would also say, yeah, there's been a lot of innovation in rare earth. I mean, one of the big winners that's carried that portfolio is MP.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
We found out what the 17 rare earth minerals are and how important they are and how important it is for America to have access to those minerals. They're in a lot of different elements, a lot of different things. So we have that. And then, of course, the fifth portfolio is an individual bond fund. where that, to me, is way better than owning a bond fund. You're saying, well, you've created a bond fund. Yes, but you know what the individual bonds, exactly what they're going to do, when they're going to come due. Unlike a bond fund, which is... Those have vastly underperformed the market. They've done terrible. Over the last 10 years, bond funds have averaged 1% to 2% a year. And I hate to say it, but that's probably 50% of America's retirement money is tied up in bond funds because of that asset allocation model that we take shots at all the time because it's mostly based on age. And we just believe that there's many more factors out there than age that impact a portfolio, a tactical portfolio. That's what we call it. We're more tactical than you're 64 years old. You're going to be 65 next month. We've got to up your bond portfolio. We're going to buy some more of this bond fund. That's averaged 1% or 2%. Look it up. Look up AGG. Look up BND. These are multi-billion dollar, $100 billion bond funds. Look up the Vanguard bond fund. And look at the 10-year track record. That says it all for me. It's very, very mediocre. And you could say, well, won't the next 10 years be good? Well, I don't see why. I mean, you know, they've got a 10-year track record. The golden age of bonds funds was from Jimmy Carter years of 19% interest rates. down to 1%. And during that period of time, Bill Gross became the biggest bond fund, biggest mutual fund manager out there with the PIMCO opportunity. But we don't have that kind of possibility going from 19 down to 1. The best we can do is go from 4.5 or 4.25 down to 1, maybe. And I don't see that happening. So I don't see this as being a very good market. But safe money... individual bonds um what do you call them alternative investments that no they're liquid uh get at them you know the value of them every day unlike a non-traded read or whatever so that's my that's my little spiel on the portfolios that we manage and we mix and allocate. We put together an asset allocation for you, but it's a custom one built with our custom funds that we've created. All right, to get an appointment with us, we're busy getting back to everybody we met with, 30 different people, couples, people, During those one-hour sessions we had, break-off sessions with individuals on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, two weeks ago, we're getting back to everybody there. You don't have to have met with us. You listen to the show. Give us a call. Set up an appointment with us. Get a plan in place, an allocation in place. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Anywhere in America. This is Bill Gunnarsson of Burry Kite. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this engaging episode of The Good News with Angie Austin, Angie and Jim Stovall dive into thought-provoking discussions around faith, tradition, and the ever-changing landscape of college life. Angie shares a personal story about her daughter's Christian school and a profound foot washing ceremony, drawing connections to lessons of humility and service. Meanwhile, Jim reflects on the cultural variations between faith-based campuses and large secular universities, offering an insightful look at how values are taught differently depending on the institution.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall talking about his winner's wisdom column today titled Said and Done. Hello, Jim.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, hello to you.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. So I thought I'd share with you. My daughter just sent me a picture from school. And just like Oral Roberts University, your alma mater, where you still teach math. It's a Christian university, and she showed me some. They have chapel every day, and she showed me some of the teachers' administration in suits and dress pants and dress shoes. I could just tell they're administrators because they were older, and you can tell by their shoes that they're not students. You know what I mean? Yeah. like the loafers and the penny loafers and anyway so she said mom look what they're doing at my school like she's like what's up with this and so they had a bunch of students up boys and the men were washing their feet and I was explaining to her that that this that she said they thought she said it was a joke and I said no it's not they're not joking around I'm like it's I mean she knows that Jesus did it in the Bible, but I'm like they're demonstrating that even the most important, the greatest, the richest, the president of the university, the people deemed to be the bigwigs that they should serve one another, serve each other in love. And I was trying to explain that these aren't things you learn in the world that you don't see anywhere. rich people will say to a homeless guy, Hey, I'd really like to demonstrate that I'm not above you and I'd like to serve you in love. And I've been really talking to them since there's been, been so much going on politically. And, you know, a young person was killed in our country that represented a lot of the views of many young people. That's why Charlie Kirk was so famous because so many young people followed him. And so that's how a lot of them knew about Christianity. And, um, at least that was one of their big, uh, influencers in the Christian and conservative world. So anyway, I have been talking to them about how easy it is to get drug into the world. And my son's at a secular university where my youngest daughter over the weekend went with him to a football game. And she saw like a whole different world. She's like, oh, my gosh, on the way that they dress up here. And so many people are drunk and it's tens of thousands of people going to these games. And, you know, because of Coach Prime, Deion Sanders, that school has become very like the tickets. Now, three of you go, it might be a thousand dollars for three tickets. Well, that's not the way normal college football games are. That's more like a pro game. Right. So it's just it's it's just a circus game. And so she was kind of like blown away, and next week we take her to the other school, to her sister's Christian school. So anyway, it's just interesting with everything that's going on in the world and a lot of people reexamining their views for my daughter to think they might be doing that as a joke. And I'm like, the president of your school is not up there watching these boys. This isn't a frat stunt. You know what I mean? Speaking of frats, Jim, one of our friends of the family is going to a frat in California. Every single night, debauchery and parties. They just sent us a video of one kid jumping off of a roof at a party into a swimming pool headfirst. I'm just like, what on earth is going on here? Anyway, he and some of his frat buddies actually, after the service yesterday, went and got baptized in the ocean. Even in these schools where It's extremely secular and worldly. They're even being touched by some of what's going on right now, this wave across our country of Christianity and conservatism that's being talked about. So people are being very outspoken right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I've had the opportunity to speak on a number of faith-based campuses and secular campuses, and I will tell you, some of the most dedicated people I've seen are on the secular campus, the big state universities, but they're involved in these faith-based organizations, and they're pretty staunch, but In general, it's really amazing because I know at our university, we're the Stovall Center for Entrepreneurship, but when you ask kids, why did you come to school here? Well, I want to pursue my passion and follow my faith at the same time. You can go to the state university and ask, and the answers kind of surround, well, I was out of high school. I didn't know what else to do. You know, great, the party continues, whatever. You know, you get some people that are really dedicated, but by and large, it's a different culture. And, you know, you experience that at the ballgame. It's really rather amazing. And, you know, I don't know who it was that thought it was a great idea to allow alcohol at college games when, in most states, 75% of the undergrads are not of drinking age anyway. And why they do that, and, you know, every group's got a senior that goes to the concession and comes back with the drinks. I mean, it's really, you know, I mean, who thought this was a good idea? I mean... Really?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's a good point, and I'm sure they say it's for the parents, but it's the kids that are drinking. Sorry, a little sneeze there. Yeah, it's a horrible idea.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, absolutely, and I think – And, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine who is a regent at a state university here in my state, and he said, well, we believe that our kids need to learn how to be adults. And I said, so you weren't influenced by the brewery giving you a million dollars and selling $12 beers, didn't you? That was not a factor. It just, you know, you're trying to teach these kids adult lessons. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
I go look at their behavior and I mean is this really what we want here I mean it's it's really rather terrifying so you know I um I I worry you know with uh so many polls on the kids you just hope well you know you just hope you've done well enough and uh in teaching them while they're with you what's important but I definitely see the environment um at University of Colorado has so many more you know temptations and then my daughter's school she's got You know, there's no drinking and there's no boys in the dorm and there's a curfew and there's a dress code and, you know, they're protected a lot more. And it's a smaller town, of course. So that right there is a big part of it. So, yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting world. All right. Well, I just want to bring all that up and then we'll talk about your column said and done. What are you teaching us this week?
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Well, more than ever, Angie, we live in a world that when it's all said and done, there's an awful lot said and very little done. I was talking to a neighbor and a friend of mine the other day at our homeowners association, and he was recommending a guy that had done some work over at his home. And he said, here's the thing. He said what he would do, and he showed up and did it. And I said, isn't it amazing that that is now, we've gotten to a place where, that's a great recommendation. A guy that just said he would do something and showed up and did it. And that is amazing. And, you know, my mentor, Lee Braxton, who you've heard me speak of many, many times, you know, when I was young and I said, what's the real key to becoming a multimillionaire? What do you really I mean, let's get behind the curtain here and see. Tell me the secret. He said, OK, you're ready. Write this down. You always do what you said you would do. And I said, come on, give me the real secret. He said, no, that's the secret. He said, always do what you say you're going to do. He said it has several benefits. First, you will be known as an honorable person that people want to do business with. Second, you'll be very cautious what you say because you know you're going to have to do it. And I remember when I was a little kid, I went with my grandfather to the fair, and he manned the booth. We were raising money for some cause, and they had fishing line that they were selling for $3 a spool. And all the money went to this cause, these kids. And so we're there. Well, a guy comes over to my grandfather and says, hey, you're selling it for $3. Over on the next aisle, they have the same thing for $2. And my grandfather said, why didn't you go buy it over there? And the guy said, well, they're out of it. And my grandfather said, well, when we're out of it, it's only a dollar. But right now we've got fishing line right here for three bucks, you want it or not. And that's kind of the thing. I mean, it doesn't really matter what you said. It's what can you do? What are you really, really doing? And, you know, it's amazing that we've gotten to a place where you become a person of high reputation. Simply because you did what you said you would do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I know when you talk about – you're really blessed when you talk about your grandparents and your parents. I mean really I've never heard you say a bad word. I mean they really were upstanding people who taught you right from wrong and elicited a lot of admiration from you in the way that they brought you up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think they saw everything as a teachable moment for me. And, you know, I benefited greatly from those lessons from them, you know, because I do think that is a teachable moment, and everything is. And even when bad things happen, wow, those are the great moments. Like, okay, what do I learn from this right here? And, you know, I... I always tell my students, a good excuse is an excuse. At some level, you did or you didn't. And I tell them, when you go to the military academy at West Point and you're going to learn how to be a soldier, they ask you a lot of questions. There are only four good responses. Yes, sir. No, sir. I don't understand, sir. No excuse, sir. Those are the only four responses they allow. And you can get through an entire education with those four answers. That's all you get to say. And so I think we need to be very careful what we say and make sure it matches who we are and what we do. And when you look at your politicians, and there's so much turmoil on the political landscape, but really all we can expect these people to do is be who they said they were. And I can tell you people at the very extreme of both parties that do a good job because they are what they said they would be. And, you know, I was talking to a senator the other day. I said, I admire you. He said, Jim, I doubt you've ever voted for anything I voted for. I said, no, I'm sure you're right. But, you know, you said you were a socialist. You've been a socialist. And you're dependable. I mean, that's what people should be able to depend on. And... And you are what you said you were, and that's all we can ask.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, in terms of what you want us to take away from the article, when we read the whole article, what would you like us today to go forth and be thinking about?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, be very careful. I mean, you know, people today are quick to give their word and quick to break their word. I mean, be slow to give your word and don't break it. I mean, just don't do that. And And if you're forced to – I mean, there's a natural disaster or something that gives you – I mean, you should be the first one on the phone telling someone, I gave you my word. Here's the situation I'm dealing with. How can we make this work? And, you know, those are the things. But I really think being known as someone who will – You know, we'll get done what he needs to get done. I remember we were at a family reunion once when a tornado came through the lake where we were. And we were way down the lake on a pavilion there. And I had a house down on the water. My brother had his house was way up on top of the hill. He said, man, I got to get all these family members out of here and get them up the hill to my basement. Can you get back to your place? Because I was by myself. Crystal was already up the hill. I said, yeah. He said, Jim, it's a half mile. How are you going to get back? I said, I've got it. He said, good enough. And he turned and drove off. And later, a family member is asking, well, how do you know? I mean, you left your brother standing there, the blind guy. And he said, and greatest compliment he ever gave me. He said, if my brother says he's got it, he's got it. That's it. That's all you need to know. And, I mean, all I had to do was go downhill until I hit the lake. The lake's down the hill somewhere. So I went downhill until I found the lake, and I followed the lake shore until I got to the boat ramp, and I walked 50 feet up the boat ramp, and there's my house. And it just wasn't that hard to find, you know. I mean, you can't get lost. It's like being in California. Go west until you find the ocean, and then you either go north or south. You can't get lost if you're going to a beach place. So it's... But the important thing is you always do what you said you're going to do. That matters.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. I was just telling my girlfriend this weekend, our kids asked us not to post something on social media, and I didn't, and she did. I said, you cannot do that. When they ask you not to post something, you don't know what their reasons are, but they will not trust you if you do that. And so we just had this big discussion about that. JimStoval.com. Thank you, my friend. Thank you. Thank you.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News. Really cool interview coming up. First, I want to share some good news with you. And the good news being, I just love these. The Good News Network is where I go to get a lot of my stories on good news. And this is about a nine-year-old going to college to be a brain surgeon for kids his age. And I really want to let you hear him speak as well. So it's an NBC story. I worked for NBC for many years, love working for them. And again, nine-year-old boy who wants to make a difference with kids his age. And it's mind-blowing to me that he's already talking about being a brain surgeon.
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Nine years old, Aidan Wilkins is making history at a Pennsylvania college. Every little thing I learn fascinates me. And feeling right at home as the youngest student to ever take classes at Ursinus.
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I just feel like... Okay, I'm in a classroom with people more than double my age.
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Okay, because this class in neuroscience is helping Aiden focus on what he wants to be when he grows up.
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The reason why I want to be a pediatric neurosurgeon is mainly because, well, I like helping kids around my age.
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Since three, Aiden loved watching anatomy videos.
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I was always fascinated when I saw, like, the brain.
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Aiden's mom says his genius was evident when he was still in diapers. He was reading signs and correcting people's sentences, and he was actually correct. He was promoted to high school at seven, when most kids his age go into the second grade. Now at nine, Aiden is in college three days a week. and has virtual classes as a sophomore in high school. Part of Aiden's gift is his love of things other kids his age also enjoy.
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I mainly like to play video games.
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But more than anything, Aiden loves learning.
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I'm going straight to med school and just see how I do.
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One gifted child who may be a gift to all of us. Rahima Ellis, NBC News.
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Whoa, are you kidding me? I mean, that just blows my mind. I mean, I always felt like, you know, I did well in school and I was pretty much a straight A student. And I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to have a brain like that, you know, to not have to really even work at understanding things. I mean, to be nine and already making his plans for medical school and to be a brain surgeon. Oh, man. Oh, man. And, you know, I know my kids, too, have to really work at their academics. And we put a fair amount of pressure on them, I would say. And I would. Two of my kids, my older ones, struggled a little more early in high school, and I don't think COVID helped with that. And it was kind of my dream to just have kids that just automatically did well in school, just like, no problem. My brother's a genius. He's like this kid almost. And he's always just understood math really well. And when he went to West Point Military Academy, he would find mistakes in the physics textbooks because he understood math so well. I never had a brain like that, but I was kind of hoping, oh, maybe I'll have a kid with a brain like that. But every one of my families really had to work at their academics. But I'm happy to say that my my kids all do really well in school. But that wasn't the case automatically. I mean, it's taken a lot of work on their on their part to get to that point. And I know that we exerted a fair amount of pressure. But, you know, things are coming around now. And speaking of brainy people, I've got an interview coming up and they are just joining us. And if you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. And I'm sure you know that you don't need to be a smoker to get lung cancer. I didn't always know that or wasn't quite clear on it, but that's the truth. The Lung Cancer Foundation of America is helping to raise awareness of the importance of early screening and clinical trials. for Patients Battling Small Cell Lung Cancer, or SCLC. Joining us are two experts in the area, Dr. Jacob Sands. Dr. Sands is a thoracic oncologist at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, and joining him is Wendy Brooks. Wendy is a small cell lung cancer survivor and clinical trial participant whose life was saved by an early CT scan and cutting-edge treatment. Welcome to both of you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Angie. All right, Dr. Sands, I'll start with you. Let's just get the basics. What is small cell lung cancer?
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Small cell lung cancer is a kind of lung cancer that when you get a biopsy and look at the cells under the microscope, they're smaller, and hence the name given many years ago was small cell lung cancer. But this is a diagnosis that tends to be more aggressive. It tends to spread earlier and more rapidly than the other more common non-small cell lung cancer.
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Now, I've been hearing that there have been changes in cancer treatments and things are getting better, as I think we'll see evidence by Wendy. But can you walk us through what's changed in the last five years? Because you mentioned it's very aggressive.
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That's right. You know, anyone with a lung cancer diagnosis, whether it be non-small cell or small cell cancer, is, with rare exception, getting treated with a drug that's new in the last five to 10 years. This is just really to stress that the science has moved very quickly. There are a lot of advances happening. Now, small cell lung cancer has been the more difficult to treat in these, We've seen a ton of advances in non-small cell lung cancer. But more recently, we're now getting this kind of momentum in the science of treating small cell lung cancer as well. A little over five years ago, we started using immunotherapy as the initial treatment along with chemo. And we have some people that I think may be cured of their incurable disease, which is to say a subset of individuals are benefiting extraordinarily. Wow. But we have a lot more work to do before everyone gets that kind of benefit. Five years ago, we saw a new chemo drug get approved. Last year, tarlotamab, the first of a class of drugs called T-cell engagers, got approved. And we're seeing real advances with that drug and that class as well. But there's so much going on in clinical trials as well. Each of the scientific advances we get... leads to other advances behind it. And so things are fortunately starting to move very quickly, and this is why it's so important for patients to hear about clinical trials that they might qualify for, just so that they can consider what's the best treatment option for them and which of the trials might they consider for their own potential best current options.
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Okay, so let's get into your story, Wendy, because we mentioned that your life was really saved by an early CT and then this cutting-edge treatment. So tell us about you.
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Exactly. So, Angie, I was actually diagnosed almost a little over two years ago in July of 2023. That was after my sixth low-dose CT screening. I had numerous risk factors that caused me to work with my primary care physician and advocate for lung screening. My father had passed away from lung cancer. I had many environmental exposures over my lifetime with my occupation and also radon in the home that I grew up with and uranium contamination in our drinking water. So there was a lot of factors that went into play with this. And I'm so glad that I did have that screening because I did not have any symptoms that would have caused concern, and it was the scan that showed that I had tumor activity in my lung that prompted further investigation with a biopsy, and that turned out to be the small cell lung cancer. And the thing about it, though, because of those early screenings, I was caught at what is called the limited stage where it just stayed within the lung and just one adjacent lymph node to where we could treat to cure. And that was the best thing I could hear from the oncologist when I met with him that we were treating this to cure. And that gave me the positive outlook that I continue today. I never ask for a prognosis. I don't want to know that. There's only one person that knows when we're going to leave this world. And that's not my doctor. So I treated with the standard line of care with chemotherapy and radiation and then went under surveillance. Unfortunately, at my three-month surveillance, my brain showed that I had a metastasis to it. So we resolved that with direct radiation to that tumor. And then my scans were moved up to every two months. And at the two-month screening for my lungs, it was found that it was back in my lung again. And that is when I made the decision in consultation with my oncologist to start my first clinical trial.
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Now, I'm just curious as to the scans, when you started getting them, is that because you had the risk factors? Because you said you didn't have any symptoms.
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That's correct. Well, the screening was because I had numerous risk factors that qualified me for screening. But it was because of the screening that caught the lung cancer.
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And how has the trial gone?
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So my first clinical trial, it was fantastic. It was one of these classes of drugs that is a targeted chemotherapy that pretty much goes directly to the expression of the small cell lung cancer protein and just you know ties right into it and delivers that chemotherapy directly to the tumor cells. That worked fantastic for me for about 10 months all of 2024 and towards the end of it I started getting a little bit of a volume increase because this cancer is sneaky and it will change and it will not allow the treatment to continue to resolve it. And we made the decision to go ahead and pivot. And I went on another clinical trial, which was a therapy that Dr. Sands described, a T-cell engager, which the medicine goes and gets my immune system amped up and goes out and targets the cancer and seeks and destroys it. And I've been on that treatment since January of this year. I get my injections every three weeks, which is another advancement with small cell. It's not an infusion. It's a subcutaneous injection. And I'm doing well with it, and I'm able to enjoy life. And that's really what we need as patients is that hope and that ability to continue to enjoy our lives and live life. That's all we can ask for.
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Thank you for your story. And Dr. Sands, would you talk to us a little bit about what we should say to our doctors, when we should be screened, if we have high risk factors, what are those risk factors? I didn't know about some of the ones that Wendy mentioned.
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Yeah, these are important ones to mention. Most commonly, the people that qualify is based upon their smoking history. and age 50 to 80, but there are other risk factors. And so certainly having that discussion with your primary care is really important. Now, unfortunately, there are a lot of people getting screened at their own urging because right now in this country, although it's been recommended for more than a decade in certain populations to get lung screening, unfortunately, this is still not happening yet. for the majority of people who qualify. There are certain hospitals where it is happening for the majority, and there are many where it is just not being offered to anybody. And so this is often something for people to look at specifically, do you fit the criteria, and to really push for it if you do.
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I just say thank you for raising attention to lung cancer and just outside risk factors. I remember working in a hospital when I was in high school, and all the ladies would sit at the table and smoke in the hospital. And then I would get a ride with a friend to school sometimes, and the windows were shut in our cold winters, and her mom would chain smoke on the way to school. And I remember just like no one in my family smoked, and I was like, horrified by the smell and feeling trapped in there by it but we didn't know you know i mean think about that smoking in a hospital like the whole table smoking like it would never happen now so whatever we're doing we're making advancements so i really appreciate you uh both uh sharing uh information and uh where should we go to get more information if we're curious about the trials etc
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Well, Angie, we'd like to share with your listeners to join the fight and to donate to go to the Lung Cancer Foundation of America's website, which is lcfamerica.org.
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Well, thank you so much for all you're doing for others and for sharing your expertise with us today. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.

In this episode, Rick Hughes shares the transformative insights of the Holy Spirit's role in a believer's life. Unpack the critical differences between the indwelling and filling of the Holy Spirit, and understand how this empowers the distinctive Christian walk. Discover the significance of spiritual gifts distributed at salvation and embrace the impactful fruits of the Spirit that guide our daily conduct. Let these divine tools guide your path in faith, growth, and spiritual maturity.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. It won't be long, just 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education, and of course we have no manipulation. We're not trying to con you. We're not going to ask you for money. We're not going to solicit membership. We're not going to try to sell you something. This show is simply about verifying and identifying the plan of God for your life, and hopefully you will orient and adjust to that plan. That's our desire. So the FLOT line has been airing now going on 16, 17 years across America. If you're just listening, FLOT stands for the Forward Line of Troops. That's a military analogy. We're saying that there are some unique problem-solving devices found in the Bible And if you will learn them and use them, they will act like a forward line of troops or a main line of resistance in your soul to stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever transform into the inside source of stress. That's why you hear me say every time, adversity is inevitable, but stress is optional. There is a way to live. It is a unique way to live. It's called the Christian life. It's the most wonderful life in the world, and I hope that you'll understand it and grow in grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. We have all the things we make available to you to learn with, all the various books we've written, all the various podcasts that we produce. You can see all of this on our website, which is simply rickhughesministries.org. rickhughesministries.org. So come check out our podcast on Apple iPod or Spotify or Anchor, or come to the website and order some of the recent materials we publish, like the latest one is Crash Course in Basic Christianity. Okay? Enough of that. It's all there for you. So what I want to talk about today is a Christian life. Absolutely the most unique life the world has ever known. Christian life is the most unique life the world has ever known. But in reality, here's what I'm trying to tell you. If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, you are living two lives at the same time. Two lives at the same time. Your physical life, yes. And then, assuming you've received Christ as your Savior, your spiritual life. Both of those lives are going on within your body right now. And both lives require fuel to function. Both your spiritual life and your physical life can be interrupted. One can be interrupted by sin, the other can be interrupted by sickness. So let me concentrate on the spiritual life to begin with. This new life in Christ begins the minute you receive Jesus Christ as your Savior. It's not earned and it's not given as an award for good behavior, but it actually begins today. the moment you put your faith and trust in the finished work of Christ on the cross. Listen to 2 Corinthians 5, 17. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he then, and I'm adding then, he is a new creature, new creation. Old things are passed away, and behold, all things have become new. That's your new life in Christ. That's when you're born again spiritually, brought into the family of God. This simply means you were dead spiritually before because of your identification with Adam. Listen to 1 Corinthians 15, 22. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. It's possible that even though you were alive physically, you were dead spiritually. And when you believed in Christ and received him as your Savior, you were made alive spiritually, so now you're alive physically and spiritually. So salvation means you're delivered from judgment. It means that you will not be judged in eternity for your sins since Christ was judged in your place. 2 Corinthians 5.21, for he, that's God, made him, that's Christ, who knew no sin to be sin for us so that we might become the righteousness of God by means of him. So only the perfect person of Jesus Christ could satisfy the perfect righteousness of God. And because of his sacrifice, his personal sacrifice, we have the opportunity to be redeemed out of the slave market of sin and given freedom from the law of sin and death. Romans 8, 1 verifies that. There is therefore now no longer any condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. You're free from that the moment you put your faith in the finished work of Christ. To live this amazing new life, we've been given a personal coach, a mentor, a tutor, a guide to assist us in learning how to use our new life in Christ Jesus, along with our new assets. And this is seen in John 14, 25 through 26. Here's what it says. Jesus told the disciples, these things I've spoken to you while being present with you. But the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. In John 14, 16, and I will pray the Father, and he will give you another helper that he may abide with you forever. That is the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees him nor knows him, but you know him, for he dwells within you and will be in you. And that's the truth. That's for us to understand and remember. So keep this in mind. He lives in you, the Holy Spirit lives in you. Now, you might wonder when that actually happened. When did that take place? When did the Holy Spirit come to live in you? In Ephesians 1.13, in him, that's Christ, you also trusted after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also, Christ, having believed, you were sealed, sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession to the praise of God's glory. So the minute you believed in Christ, the minute you received him as your savior, God the Holy Spirit came to indwell you and seal you. That means that no one can ever take you out of the Father's hand. So the indwelling of that Holy Spirit provides several things simultaneously for us. The first is the filling of the Holy Spirit. It helps us to come back to control of the sin nature. You have a sin nature, I have a sin nature. Galatians 5, 17 says it. For the flesh fights against the spirit and the spirit fights against the flesh and these are contrary one to another so that you cannot do the things that you wish you could. So the indwelling of the Holy Spirit provides a residency for Christ also. Number one, not only does he give you the ability to overcome the desires of the flesh, but once he lives in you, he provides a residency for Christ. And the purpose of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is to provide a temple in the body of every church age believer for the indwelling of Jesus Christ as the Shekinah glory of the Old Testament, who now dwells in you, in the indwelling of God the Father in you. Did you realize that, that your body is a temple of God, that Christ lives in you, God the Father lives in you, God the Holy Spirit is in you? Listen to 1 Corinthians 3.16. Do you not know that you are the temple of God and the Spirit of God dwells in you? Your body is a temple and that's where the Holy Spirit resides from making a place for the Lord Jesus Christ. So let's go into this one now a little bit. We understand when we got the Holy Spirit, we understand what he helps us do, we understand that he is a temple for the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father. Now we have to understand the indwelling versus the filling. It's important for us to distinguish between these two. because the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is permanent, and the filling of the Holy Spirit is temporary, depending on the use of rebound, problem solving device number one. When we sin, we lose the filling of the Holy Spirit by quenching the spirit and grieving the spirit, but we do not lose the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. While the indwelling of the Holy Spirit emphasizes the body, The filling of the Holy Spirit emphasizes your soul. Therefore, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is always stated as the body of the believer. Your body is the sacred building of the church age, and this indwelling makes it impossible for any demon possession to occur. 1 Corinthians 3.16, again, don't you know you are the temple of God and the Spirit of God dwells in you? So your body is the indwelling. and in your soul is the filling. Now what about the baptism of the Holy Spirit? A lot of people talk about that. At the moment we believed in Jesus Christ, God the Holy Spirit took each one of us and entered us into union with the person of Jesus Christ. Baptism means we are identified with Christ. As a result of being in union with Christ, we share what Christ has. We are in union with him, we share his identity. We share his eternal life in 1 John 5, 11, and 12. We share his righteousness. We share his destiny. We share the election that what he was elected to do, we are elected to do. And Jesus Christ, seated at the right hand of the Father, has a third royal title, King of Kings, Lord of Lords. We share in this royalty as his royal family. We are a member of the royal family. We now are a new species, royal family, church age believer. Once you're put into union with Christ, which is, we call that positional truth, then you're never gonna get out. There's no sin, no human good, no evil you're gonna perform that's gonna kick you out or disqualify from you being in union with Christ. The baptism of the Spirit is the basis for this new spiritual species and the basis for you being the member of the royal family of God. This is a unifying factor in the body of Christ. We all, you and me together, we all have equal privilege and we all have equal opportunity to execute God's plan. Now, the Holy Spirit is in you. He came in you the minute you believed in Christ. He sealed you, no one's gonna take you out of God's hand. He set up the temple for God and Jesus Christ in your life and he distributes spiritual gifts The Holy Spirit is involved in all the subsequent distribution of spiritual gift. Listen to 1 Corinthians 12, 11, but one had the same spirit, but one in the same spirit works all these things distributing to each one individually as he will. But one in the same spirit works all these things distributing to each one individually as he will. My gift is a gift of evangelism. I'm not a qualified pastor. I mean, I could pastor a church. Sure, I could, but that's not my spiritual gift. My spiritual gift is evangelism. What is your spiritual gift? That's what you have to understand and learn. Some people have the gift of giving. Matter of fact, that's how we survive on the radio shows. These things cost money. People contribute and help us pay our bills through their gift of giving. Some people have the gift of leadership, administration. Some people have the gift of helps, the gift of mercy. Various spiritual gifts. And learning what your spiritual gift is, is a key to learning where God plans for you to work in his program. So at the moment you believed in Jesus Christ, you were given that spiritual gift. It took me a couple of years to figure it out, but I learned that I had the gift of evangelism. So the distribution of spiritual gifts at the moment of salvation is the manifestation of the Holy Spirit putting the team action into the body of Christ. At a local church, you have all the gifts functioning together and it represents the body of Christ. The local church is supposed to be the body of Christ. And when people see you, they see Christ. This is the basis for the administration and the service of the royal family of God in the local church. And it's the expression of the modus operandi of the church age believer. both as a royal priest, which you are, and as a royal ambassador, which you are. You have privacy of the priesthood. That's what I talked about a couple of weeks ago on mind your own business. And as a royal ambassador, you've been sent to the devil's world to represent the Lord Jesus Christ. Now the Bible talks about something called the fruit of the Spirit. Here I want to spend a little bit of time with you and show you something very unique. In Galatians 5, 22 and 23, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. The word fruit is the word Karpos in the Greek, K-A-R-P-O-S. And Karpos simply means that which is produced. In the Vines Expository New Testament Dictionary, it means the visible expression of the power working inwardly and fruit being the evidence of the power producing it. Now, some people will tell you if there's no fruit, you're not really saved, and that's not true. If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you are saved. You might not produce fruit if you get out of fellowship. You might not produce fruit if you don't grow spiritually. But you are declared in the Bible to grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and you are designed to produce fruit, not only evidence of your salvation, but also to have this inherent attitude that I'm about to talk to you about, the fruit of the Spirit. Karpos, the Greek word, karpos. So, each one of these incredible manifestations that I just gave you, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, each one of these incredible manifestations of the Holy Spirit is controlling the Christian's thinking. And that comes by means of biblical wisdom in your soul. These things don't just automatically show up in your life. It's impossible. They must be learned. They are a way of thinking and it has to be learned. These attributes don't just happen when you rebound and you're filled with the Spirit and all of a sudden now you have love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness. That's not the way it works. Each one of these is something that the Lord Jesus Christ possessed. And when the Bible says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus, the Bible is telling us we have to learn to live like he lived. We have to learn to think like he thought. That's why it's all recorded in the New Testament for us. And that's what this is. This is the mind of Christ working in you. So these fruits are exactly the same manifestation of the thinking of the Lord during his time on earth. And we are told to duplicate that mindset. Philippians 2, 5, as I read to you earlier, let this mind or attitude be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. And the first one was fruit of the spirit was love, love. Okay, love. All right, what does that mean, love? Well, there's several words for love in the Bible. Agathos, philos, eros, a lot of different words for love. A lot of times it depends on which love we're talking about, but here it is. Love is a problem-solving device. It's in our 10 problem-solving devices known as personal love for God, problem-solving device number six, and impersonal love for others, problem-solving device number seven. critical you understand that problem-solving device number seven and number eight actually number seven personal love for God number eight and personal love for all mankind excuse me so let's go over this just for a second love what did Jesus say about love in John 14 31 but so that the world may know that I love the Father And I do exactly as the Father commanded me. Get up and let's go from here. So that the world may know that I love the Father. Do you love God? That's the first question I have to ask you. Do you love God? And I know you're going to say, well, yes, I love God. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. But remember, the Bible says, if you love me, 1 John 5, 3, you will obey me and my mandates are not grievous. What did Jesus say? I love the Father and I am going to do exactly what he commanded me to do. What about you? If you love the Father, do you do what he commands you to do? I'm not talking about not smoking, not drinking, not cussing, not dancing. I'm talking about growing in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, getting out of spiritual infancy, becoming a spiritually mature believer, getting under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor, growing in grace. You're commanded to do that so that you don't remain a baby Christian all your life. Like Hebrews 5 says, there's a lot of things I'd like to tell you, but I can't. You're just babies. This is important for you to understand that. Jesus Christ had personal love for God the Father, and he had impersonal love for all mankind, John 15, 9. Just as the Father has loved me, I also have loved you. Remain in my love. So there are the two loves in the life of Christ. I love the Father and I obey him and I love you and remain, I want you to remain in my love. He demonstrated his love for us when he went to the cross and paid for our sin. So the fruit of the Spirit being love is an attitude that Christ demonstrated to us and showed us and we learn it and apply it into our life. It doesn't happen automatically. Fruit of the Spirit is love. When you're filled with the Holy Spirit, you rebound automatically. You're going to love everybody? No. If you don't understand this, you'll miss it completely. This is an attribute that must be discovered and learned and applied into your life. The Bible goes on to say the fruit of the Spirit is joy, but the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, joy. What about joy? In John 15, 11, these things I spoke to you so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be made full. Once again, this is the Holy Spirit using the scripture that you've learned to replicate the thinking of Christ. He wants us to think exactly like he thought. And he told them these things so that they could have this joy. Well, these things refers to John 13 all the way to John 15, 11, all the various things he told them in those two chapters. So what about it? Do you have that joy in you? That doesn't mean you're happy, happy, happy. That's some guy sold a book, happy, happy, happy. The Christian life is the ability to have contentment and peace in the middle of adverse circumstances. So the next fruit of the Spirit is peace. John 16, 33 shows us how the Lord Jesus Christ had that peace. He said, these things I have spoken to you so that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation, but take courage, I overcame the world. So the same peace that he had is to be replicated in you if you learn it, if you understand how to have that peace. It's called the faith rest drill. If you stand on the promises of God, you have nothing to worry about. If you turn it over to the Supreme Court of Heaven, you have nothing to be upset about. You can have a life of peace, no agitation, no anger, no bitterness. These things I spoke to you, John 16, 33, so that in me you may have peace. Well, if I rebound and confess my sin, I'm automatically gonna have peace? Nope. Not until you learn how to do it. It's a learned attribute. You have to learn how to use the faithless drill in all circumstances, and that's where the peace comes from. Another one is the fruit of the Spirit. It's called patience in the Bible. The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience in Galatians 5.22. Well, patience is used several ways in the Bible. Patience with people, patience with circumstances, even the patience of God, which is called long-suffering. So in 2 Peter 3.15, listen carefully. And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation. That's his patience. He was very patient with you. And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you. How to have patience with people. How to have patience with circumstances. And the patience of God. Now listen, I'll show you what the patience of God is in 2 Peter 3, 9. The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some people count slowness, but is patient towards you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance. God patiently waits on you to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Another fruit of the Spirit is called kindness in the Bible. Lord Jesus Christ demonstrated that attitude in Luke 6, 27, when he said, but I say to you who hear me, love your enemies and do good to those that hate you. That's in the Beatitudes. That is a learned attribute. You don't just do that automatically. You have to learn how to have grace orientation with other people, learning how to grace people out just like God graced you out. If God, you got saved by grace, you live by grace, you die by grace, they're suppressing grace in heaven. But if you can't grace other people out, if you're hostile and angry and bitter, malign people, you're not kind, you're angry and bitter towards them, then you haven't learned how to live the Christian life according to grace orientation. Another fruit of the Spirit, the Bible says in Galatians 5.22, is goodness. The Greek word agathosune, agathosune. And that means being kind to other people. A-G-A-T-H-O-S-U-N-E, sune. Agathosune, being kind to other people is the word goodness. So in Ephesians 4.32, the Bible says, be kind to one another, compassionate, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ forgave you. And then the fruit of the Spirit is faithfulness. 2 Thessalonians 3.3, the Lord is faithful. There it is, Jesus Christ demonstrated faithfulness. He will establish you and guard you against the evil one. The same faithfulness he demonstrated, you are to demonstrate. It's called the fruit of the spirit. If you learn these things, and that's the impersonal love that you use towards other people. The fruit of the Spirit, the Bible says, is gentleness, praotes, praotes. This doesn't mean that you're macho, but it means you have humility or you're oriented to grace. You're not arrogant. You're gentle. In 1 Peter 2, 23, while being abusively insulted, he did not insult in return. While suffering, he did not threaten, but he kept entrusting himself to the one who judges righteously. That's the patience of Christ, the gentleness of Christ. He was very gentle with those who criticized him, insulted him, abused him, and he didn't do anything back to them. And then we come to the fruit of the Spirit is self-control. And this is the strength to control your emotions and deny the power of the flesh. Ekratatia, ekratatia, the Greek word, E-G-K-R-A-T-E-I-A, ekratatia. So what does that mean? 1 Peter 5, now for this very reason, Apply all diligence, and this is self-control, in your faith. Supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness. That's the lifestyle of the Lord Jesus Christ. That's what the fruit of the Spirit is. It's you learning to live like Christ lived. All of these traits are learned attitudes that you must acquire. So here's a final warning in 1 Corinthians 3, 16. Don't you know you're the temple of God and the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy that person. For the temple of God is holy and that is what you are. You are the temple of God. Do not abuse the temple. Romans 8, 13, for if you are living and according with the flesh, you are going to die. But if by the Holy Spirit you're putting to death the deeds of the body, you are going to live. Wonderful promise and a wonderful warning for all of us. There's a lot to say about this. I crammed it into a short 27-minute session. I hope you learned it. I hope you're listening. If you want more information, get in touch with me immediately as quickly as you can. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flotline.
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Join us as we reflect on the legacy of Charlie Kirk, a modern-day apostle and political activist whose life and work have inspired a generation. Through a detailed discussion, we explore the foundational principles that guided him and the impact he had on those around him, especially within the realms of religious and political freedom. This episode also delves into the broader issues of campus activism and the ideological battles that have shaped current academic and social landscapes.
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At age 10, Father Andre escaped Christian massacres by living in caves in Mount Lebanon with his family. Today, Father Andre works tirelessly to encourage American leaders to keep God in the public square, defending religious freedom at home and abroad, so that all might live in peace for the glory of God. Founder and president of the Mission of Hope and Mercy, Father Andre has learned the secret to safety, joy, and peace. Love God and one another. Now, let us spend 33 minutes on the Lord's Day, retuning ourselves to the truth of love in the hands of God.
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Praise be the most holy name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, now and forever and ever. Amen. My dearly and good beloved brothers and sisters in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, we want to wish you all a wonderful and good Sunday morning. I know there is a memorial happening in Phoenix, Arizona, and I know that we saw everybody flocking worldwide, not only from the United States, to respond to the tragedy, the shooting, the assassination, the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. this is over one week now, almost, one week and a few days, we have seen how the reaction in the world has somehow varied from sympathy, condolence, I call this the normal reaction, the human kind reaction, the reaction that should be from any one of us who has a common sense, who has a clarity in their discernment between good and evil, a reaction that shows the good human character away from political affiliation or away from ideological beliefs. The tragedy in the world, when it hits one, it hits all. The human flesh is weak and it's easy to injure the human flesh, whether it is yours, mine, or anyone's human flesh. The human life is very precious and it's a gift from God that we cherish. And human beings have their families, their privacies, have a home they expect to go back to, have mom, dad, wife, husband, children, siblings, friends to go back to. They have a company, they have work, they have friends in their labor team to whom they would want to go back. Nobody lives and assumes they're going to die every day. Even though there is this wisdom when they taught us in the monastery at an early age, live every day as if it was your last day. With this, my friends, I believe I could tell that Charlie Kirk must have lived every day in his life as almost it was the last day of his life. And I only am able to say that because I know from what I saw. I know from when I met him a long time ago, from every meeting. Dr. Dundra, even Julian as well, have met him probably since 2016 or 17 when he came to us. when he came to the Colorado-Denver conservative evangelical, Western conservative summit, I believe. We used to meet him, we used to see him in the hallway with many younger people dressed up, always in red shirts, I believe, at the time. before he became in a suit and a tie. We knew him when he was young. And somehow it means the world to us today that Dr. Julian Dunraven, myself, as a friend and a team member of the Mission of Hope and Mercy and people who worked and some to maintain, to keep, to safeguard, to uphold religious freedom, the freedom of speech, our faith, our family, our constitutional rights. And of course, the clarity of our sovereign nation being defined by borders, by clear government, by good operation, by rights and duties, by law and order, by private and public sector, by the clear division and somehow ad hoc accountability system amongst all the various sectors of the government, from the executive to the legislative, to the legal, to the media. So we believe in what Charlie Kerr believed and was promoting. at the days in any summit, in any conference, I believe, in any place in Colorado, outside of Colorado, which gave us an opportunity to go and to say, let's work together to save this nation, to remind the people that something is being taken away from us. And that's what I believe. We met personally with Charlie, and we noticed that he has a talent of a prophet. He has a talent of an apostle. He was a great political activist. But I do believe that he died as a Christian. He absolutely died. So before I want to comment and do my own introduction as a matter of fact to that, I want to take a moment with you. How was America in 2016 when Charlie was about probably 18 years old or 17 years old, probably 18 years old, did not go to college? When we met in the hallway of this beautiful big convention center in Denver, you and me and Charlie and everyone else, what was going on in the United States if you take us back to 2016?
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2016, the Trump election, I think it surprised everyone. But there was a great deal of hope, I think, in the conservative movement of having President Trump come into office and take over. There was a great deal of optimism, I think. And Charlie certainly reflected that. I had no idea how young he was at the time, because he seemed so... He seemed so mature and so on point with everything he did. I would never have guessed that he was only 18 when I first met him. And I don't know if that was back in 2016 or a little bit earlier, but yeah, it was... Or 17, something like that. He was very impressive when I met him and far more composed. I'm a college professor myself, and so 18, 19, 20-year-olds, basically who I deal with in my undergraduate classes, he seemed quite a bit more advanced, despite the fact that he didn't even know this.
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Dr. Julian Dan Raven a friend of the Mission of Hope and Mercy, a neighbor of the Mission of Hope and Mercy and of my days at St. Rafa. And of course, as a constitution lawyer and a teacher of law in a local college here in Denver, Colorado. And Julian, you were very active in your days in university in Boulder. Yes. For many reasons. It's up to you if you want to talk about your own reasons why you were active. What were you advocating for? you even were threatened. And even, I do not know if you wanna go, I just wanna give the young American kids that, you know, when we work on campuses, when there's activism on campuses, people do receive threats. Let's just move away a little bit from before we talk more closely to what happened to Charlie. It's not as strange that on colleges, people threaten people and there could be violence and the people might need protection. Tell us in your days in one of the US colleges here in Colorado, what happened?
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I'll just give you a brief summary. You have to go back a ways for this. Many of you know that the progressive movement started actually overseas and they realized very early on that if they were going to capture a good deal of success in government that they would first need to focus on education. And so the progressive movement tried very hard to get people into academic positions where they could continue to push their ideas. And by the time I went to college, I think we had one, one conservative professor left. And that was Dr. Sir Edwin Rosig. who was a remarkable man. And I had the pleasure of studying under him. But some of his students wanted to bring in Ward Connerly to the University of Colorado. And that was turned down. Ward Connerly, for those of you who do not know, is the black regent of the University of California who abolished affirmative action in that state. And the young Republicans at the University of Colorado wanted to bring him in to speak. they were turned down. And at the time I was a democratic socialist. And I lived very happily on campus doing my hiking and meditation. You're a democratic socialist. Yes.
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And you might explain in this for our people who are listening to us on KLZ for 33 minutes on the lowest day. And also for the podcast Irrevocable, the people who follow us on X and the Truth Social and other social media. And especially younger people. Let's start talking to younger people. What does democratic socialism mean? We're talking in the 90s, right?
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Yes, just before the year 2000. So I can tell you what it meant to me, which these days you would describe as conservative. It was someone who believed in free speech and believed in giving everyone an opportunity to speak, believed in respecting everyone and being against this sort of oppression that our professors saw in in general society. It wasn't very well maintained, I can tell you that. But I remember my roommate, who was the head of the College of Republicans, came home one day and was very upset about not being able to bring in Warcock. And he asked me, if you believe in free speech so much, why is it that you and your fellow liberals are silencing my group? Well, I didn't agree with that, and I thought he did have a right to bring in the speaker of his choice. And so I got involved, got myself appointed to some of the boards, the funding boards at the University of Colorado, and quickly discovered that things were not as I thought they were. My own funding board, after I forced them to foot the bill and bring in Ward Connolly to speak on campus, they all showed up to his speech dressed in KKK robes.
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In Boulder. That was a Boulder campus. Yes. And how many students were usually in the Boulder campus?
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30,000.
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30,000 students. We're talking late 90s, before the year 2000, before 9-11. Just before. Just before 9-11. And it was...
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That didn't go away. That moment on pushed me further and further to the right as I determined that this happy leftist crowd that I had identified myself weren't really for free speech. They weren't really for tolerance. They were only for tolerance if you agreed with them and stayed in your assigned role.
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May I interrupt you a little bit? I think you're using terms I wonder if at the time they applied or you're using them simply because they apply today. Before the 2000s, could you really speak about leftist and right? Yes. Or it was democratic and republicans?
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Oh, no. It was left and right. In fact, on the University of Colorado campus, by the time it really heated up and I started founding a political takeover of the student government, many of the people in the conservative party at Boulder were Democrats. But the campus was so far left that even the Democrats seemed conservative by comparison.
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And... Okay.
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That... those people and the reason i tell this and yes you're you're correct it became very heated when we discovered or when we founded a conservative political party at boulder and i i got weekly death threats i had police escorts to class um and just became kind of used to that but the people that i was dealing with at the time are the same people now who are, but they're now out of college. They have escaped the university. They've escaped the very strange little leftist cells within the university. And they're now in government. They're running the state legislatures. They're running executive agencies. And we saw them and the ideology that they subscribed to the Charlie Gersh assassination, which believes that words are violence, that disagreement is oppression, and that the only way to respond to that is with violence and force to silence. And that started years ago.
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This is Father Andre and the mission of hope and mercy with our 33 minutes on the lowest day and irrevocable podcast. Conversing with Dr. Julian Dunraven, a constitutional lawyer and a graduate from the University of Colorado in Boulder and a political activist, I believe, himself. Is it okay to call you political activist or you were a political activist? Certainly. Some of the issues that you covered on campus Was social justice a key or more economy? Because I know today we're going to speak a little bit. We're going to have to speak for our friends who want to remain with us after 33 minutes is over. Please make sure you go on missionofhopeandmercy.org. That is missionofhopeandmercy.org. And look for irrevocable.org. for this episode with Dr. Julian Don Raven. Dr. Julian Don Raven. Well, we call him here Kirk, but today we decided not to call him Kirk because we do not want to confuse Charlie Kirk, of whom we would like to speak with Kirk, who is a known name for us in the family and amongst friends. and co-workers and family members. So please make sure after the 33 minutes to continue watching our episode of Irrevocable. You can continue watching and streaming this episode on our X page, Mission of Hope and Mercy, or on our website, missionofhopeandmercy.org, missionofhopeandmercy.org. Dr. Julian, the type of issues that Charlie ended up speaking about, which honestly attracted me a lot. Beside religion, beside God, beside Christianity, he had an economic vision. And he started talking about the trade. He started talking about the sanctions. He started talking about the tariffs. And almost people thought that actually he almost knew the thoughts of President Trump. And he was able to convey them. He was able to explain. He was able to share them on campuses and to go on debates and spoke with great clarity. But in your days, what were the issues on campuses? Is it always economy and social justice and sexuality and the gender and the transgenderism? What were the issues, if you compare your days to the days of Charlie Kerr on campuses?
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It was the same. It's just that what was limited to college debates back then is now in mainstream societal debate now.
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Can you explain that? Like, There was transgenderism at the time, and it was heated.
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Oh, yes. And of course, that was before the days of Obergefell versus Hodges that universalized gay marriage. So there was a lot more activism on that front, too. But no, the issues were the same. It was race, gender, sexuality, economic disadvantage.
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Race, gender.
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So essentially, all the forces of critical studies that were back then have now trained people to be in the public sphere today. So by critical studies, I mean the inductive sort of reasoning, the intellectual era of Marxism, and pick your critical study. So you have critical race theory that says, Everyone is a more oppressor based on your race and advantage that you get from that. Critical economic studies, which says that however much money you have or what your position in class and society determines whether you are privileged or oppressed. Critical gender studies, same thing, but with gender.
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and critical sexuality so if you're born white if you're born hispanic if you're born black if you're born any other race you are with specific advantages and disadvantages you come with a specific package basically and that's it correct and everything in critical studies sees the world through a lens of power
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an oppressor versus oppressed. And it's just which type of oppression they want to look at. And because they see it all through that lens, they don't use deductive reasoning and say, what are the facts and how did we get there? They rather have their lens of power and oppression and they fit everything to it.
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Was religion ever part of the argument?
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Yes. Religion was largely considered one of the oppressing forces.
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Oppressing forces?
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Yes. And so we had a lot of trouble with religious organizations unable to secure funding or their speakers. And that was one of my first experiences with the First Amendment, having to instruct people on what truly the First Amendment meant and what non-discrimination meant.
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So there were religious groups, there were ministries on the campuses, and they were part of the oppressive groups, what you're saying?
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They were called that by the leftists, yes.
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By the leftists? Okay, and why is that?
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They represented more of traditional society as far as the leftist groups were concerned.
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So religious groups were almost like a three mega. If we consider the agenda of President Trump about pro-life, about the marriage between man and woman, the traditional family values, Judeo-Christian principles, capitalism. So basically, on campuses, there were religious active ministries.
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That reached them?
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Yes. There were Campus Catholics.
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Okay.
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There was Campus for Save the Christ. There were various other groups as well. All of them faced a great deal of difficulty in getting any sort of funding or recognition for their events because they were disdained. and not just by the leftist groups, but by the professors themselves. As you know, the higher you rise in education, the more likely you are to be on the left. Why is that? Rationalism and nihilism that have taken over. The idea of believing in something larger than what reason can comprehend has become unfashionable. And in the academic world, it is tantamount to career suicide to admit that you believe in something.
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Would students agree with you today if they are listening to you? I mean, it's mind-boggling for me. I mean, you know, I have like 4,000 books. I speak 12 languages. I know 12 languages. Spoke about seven languages, still speak some. You ask me which language I think of, and I told you, it depends on the dimension I'm looking for. Because languages have dimensions, and dimensions affect the clarity, perception, reception. But is it possible that today's students in college don't want to protect their critical thinking. They don't care for their freedom of thinking, meaning that they have a methodology. Isn't it enjoyable to them that they discover the truth?
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It is, but they don't know it. My class, for instance, at college I teach in the business department, is one of the hardest classes in our department. And... You would think that that would mean that students were very hesitant to take class and were happy to leave as quickly as possible. And yet consistently every semester, I have students who have already taken class back in the classroom, sitting through it again, not because they have to, but because they, they say that it's the only place on campus that they get to talk about ideas.
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Okay.
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And Keep in mind, too, that the progressive movement began its educational capture back in the 1800s. So the late 1800s, 1880s, that sort of thing. They've been at this for close to 150 years. And it's for today's students who've all been educated by Marxist professors who taught their teachers and then their teachers taught them. Generation Z, I don't think, has ever encountered really a freedom of thought sort of atmosphere, which is why they seem to enjoy my classes. Because it's the first occasion that they have encountered critical thinking and freedom of thought.
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Another thing, in a large context of the world that produced Charlie Kirk and the world that unfortunately hurt Charlie Kirk, And the world that got engaged and followed and listened and conversed, sometimes debated ferociously, and then grew either animosity or friendship. common ground, new learnings, new discoveries. But I think he made a great improvement in his friendships with people who are on the opposite side. I think if you look at his mechanism of conversation, I think he did remove the people from the critical theory to the critical thinking.
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Yes, with dialectic. Please go ahead. And that's the sort of, well, as a lawyer, of course, happy that he engaged in the way he did, because that's how the law has always sought truth, right? We bring in opposing parties into a courtroom, we argue back and forth, and we hope to discover the truth. And in the over a thousand years that the common law system has been operating, we've not found a better way yet. And Charlie Kirk really took that back to the people. And I think that's why he's so popular on campus. That's why Turning Point USA has been so successful at establishing chapters. Because sadly, debate isn't in the college campuses. College campuses have become institutions of groupthink in which The professors all want to fit in with each other. They don't ever want to disagree. You certainly don't want to admit that you're a conservative or a believer. And the students all pick up on that too, that it is, you must be stupid or you must be superstitious if you have any of those traditional beliefs. or even worse, an oppressor. And that has infected a lot of academia to the point where academia is no longer open. You'd be hard pressed at this point to find more than one conservative professor at almost any major university.
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Wow. When did this Marxism, in a large context, again, of the world of Charlie Kirk, my world and your world, when did the Marxist inquisition, let's call it this way, you introduce a term that I wish, honestly, that people in America and the learned people in academia reflect upon, and people from the Judeo-Christian life and culture as well, try to discern that. It's probably a reality that exists, and it's obviously affecting violence, affecting violence and indoctrinating people based on gender, based on sex, based on race, based on integration, based on native, meaning locally born versus immigrant. It's like the critical theory is dangerous. It's affecting everything. And it is Marxist in its foundation.
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Yeah. Well, and worse. You come from the Middle East. You come from Lebanon. You grew up during the Lebanese Civil War. And you saw the horrible hatred and violence that ensued. But the people who engaged in that aren't crazy. They were radicalized in a very specific process. They're not crazy. And indeed, many of them are intelligent. And it's almost easier to radicalize an intelligent person because they want to belong. Whereas a fairly stupid person might claim to their upbringing and say, well, this is how I am. An intelligent person wants to fit in. And so they will allow their mind to be a little more malleable, shall we say. But the indoctrination is actually very similar. When I teach terrorism and national security law, we talk about how do you get someone to willingly go and, say, be a suicide bomber? or a terrorist attacker that say flew the planes into the World Trade Center. They're not crazy people. You first have to give them a set of values and principles that are fairly strong. And after you give them theirs and convince them that these are good principles, then you have to say that your particular group with those good principles is facing deep oppression. And the only way to combat that oppression is to fight back. And you have to characterize the other side that is oppressing all your good values as not even human. They are so evil and soulless that they are not even human. And then you leave the person who's listening to you with very little choice but to say, well, if I believe in these values, if I have these principles and I believe in this sort of goodness, and these are my people and they're being oppressed, then my only choice to free them is to go kill these other people. And it's not a crazy thing. It's not an irrational thing. It is a deeply indoctrinated experience and it happens in terrorism. And it's now happening on the left because the language It's all that way.
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Wow. There is something. Obviously, there is a quote on campus. As I want to tell you today, I was writing on our ex-page for the Mission of Hope and Mercy, and I wrote the following. On many levels, as I said before, and I will repeat again, Charlie Kerr could be regarded as a modern-day apostle, like St. Paul. He has that courage of St. Paul. And he faces his ends. Or Marturion from Greek. meaning a testimonial, a witness, by all means, like St. John the Baptist, who came to witness to the truth. And for me, honestly, I look and I see that he could be actually counted as a shepherd, as a pastor, to many younger people who are outside the wall of the church. who fell from the various branches of the big church and on campus, they are still actually the truth seekers and they needed a good shepherd. And they were like sheep without a good shepherd. So those who killed the Charlie Curl most likely executed what Zechariah the prophet foretold about Jesus Christ. He said the following in one of the books of the Bible, strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered. It's a biblical prophecy from Zechariah chapter 13, verse 7. While after this assassination, there is a void on campuses. And this is honestly what worries me a lot, that there is a void on campuses now. The sheep is scattered and there are going to be many marketers to come and sell whatever messaging they have. So now students are becoming most likely like the sheep without the shepherd. And it is very important that the younger people on campuses now immediately go to Jesus Christ, call upon his holy name. He's not an indoctrinator. He's a God of love. He's a love. He's a redeemer. He's a forgiver of sins. And he's the Lord of peace. And I want the younger people to really consecrate themselves to him as a God and Savior. I want them to open the Bible. And I tell you why. To read the New Testament first and to let the Holy Spirit inspire their mind and their souls. Because I am worried about them being confused by the snares of the devil and being indoctrinated even more violently to the far, far, far side on either side of the equation. I am afraid that there will be a violence and there could be massacres on campuses or from campuses that honestly massacres could begin in the United States. This is my fear. This is my worst fear. For our people, please follow us. I want to wish you a wonderful and happy and blessed Sunday for those who have followed us on 33 Minutes on the Lord's Day. May this blessed season of the Holy Cross bring us all protection and the light of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and Christ Satan, our enemy by his means, precious and pure blood. And may God grant rest. to the soul of Charlie, and consolation from healing from this deep wound to his widow, to his wife, Erica, to his children, his mom and dad, her family, his family, and all the loved ones in Turner Point, USA, for our President Donald Trump, and all those who are mourning the passing and the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk, please make sure you go to our website, missionofhopeandmercy.org, missionofhopeandmercy.org, and go to our podcast, Irrevocable, and to continue watching and streaming this episode with Dr. Julian Danweller.
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In this episode of The Flatline, Rick Hughes explores the profound questions of heaven and salvation. Examine the role of Jesus Christ as the redeemer and the importance of faith in securing eternal life. Listen as Rick emphasizes a life aligned with the teachings of the Bible, contrasting earthly struggles with heavenly promises. As you explore these spiritual truths, find out why belief in Christ is the key to a hopeful eternity.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to The Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It's just a short time of motivation, some inspiration, some education, and no manipulation. If this is your first time to listen to our show, The FLOT Line, FLOT is a military acronym, and it stands for the Forward Line of Troops. This is not a military show. This is not a political show. It's a show about the Bible, but we're using a military analogy. What we're saying is there are 10 unique problem-solving devices found in the Bible, and if you will learn them, and if you will use them, they will act like a main line of resistance, a forward line of troops, and they will stop the outside sources of adversity from ever becoming the inside source of stress. Yes, I'm telling you it's possible for you to live a life free of stress, not free of adversity, that's impossible, but free of stress, which means there's a life free of worry, a life free of fear, a life free of bitterness. There's a better way to live, and it is called the unique life, the Christian life, a wonderful life. And it's lived by what the Bible says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus, learning to think like he thought while he was on planet Earth, fulfilling the Father's plan. Before we get into the message today, let me say that we podcast all of our radio shows on the various podcast venues like Spotify or Apple iPod or Anchor. If you simply go to those platforms and type in The Flot Line, you'll find us. And you can listen anywhere, anytime, anyplace, 24-7 a day. 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They're all available free, along with our various bookmarks. So help yourself. If you'd like to contact us, go to rickhughesministries.org. Okay, let's get into what we want to talk about today. We want to talk about a simple question. I'm going to ask you a question. I want you to think about it. Here it is. Do you want to go to heaven? Do you want to go to heaven? Now, I don't know very many people that would say no. Yes, yes, you want to go to heaven for sure. Here's what the Lord Jesus Christ said about heaven to his disciples. He said in John 14, one through three, let not your hearts be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions, and if it were not so, I would have told you. But I go to prepare a place for you, and if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself, that where I am, you may be also." So we know that at the ascension, the Lord Jesus Christ went to heaven, and we know that anyone who dies in Christ joins him in heaven. So where is this place? And technically, what is it called? Well, Psalm 33, 14, it says, from the place of his dwelling, he looks on all the inhabitants of the earth. So obviously, God can see everything that's going on on planet earth. And in Philippians 3, 20, the Bible says our citizenship is not in, and let me put in parentheses here, it's not in California, it's not in San Diego, it's not in Maine, it's not in Michigan, it's not in Alabama, it's not in Mississippi, it's in heaven. Our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior to return, that is the Lord Jesus Christ. If you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, you are a citizen of heaven. Citizenship is an interesting Greek word. It's not the word in English, it's the Greek word politouma. Our politouma, and that's our commonwealth, our administration of civil affairs. Your name's on the record book of heaven. You have a place in heaven. You have a lodging in heaven. You're responsible for being in heaven because you have trusted in Jesus Christ to save you. And then the word heaven, two key words, our citizenship, politouma, our commonwealth. And heaven, the Greek word for heaven is ouranos, ouranos, O-U-R-A-N-O-S. And that's the vaulted expanse of the sky, the complete abode of God. Now, you might not realize this, but there are three regions of the universe. The first heaven is called the atmosphere, you know, that blue stuff over the head of us. the oxygen that we breathe, the atmosphere. So when the astronauts go up to the space station, they look down on the blue planet and they're seeing the first heaven. And then the second heaven is the stars of the universe. That's where the Hubble telescope and all these other telescopes can look out into the universe and see all the galaxies and see all of one thing and another. And then the third heaven is the abode of God. It's the presence of God. So Matthew 6, 9 says, our Father, which art in heaven? And this is what the Lord Jesus Christ taught the disciples to pray. Sometimes people say, can I pray to Jesus? The answer is no, you pray to the Father. He showed you right here. When you pray, pray, our Father, which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. In Ecclesiastes 5, 2, don't be rash with your mouth, And let not your heart utter anything hastily before God, for God is in heaven and you are on earth. Therefore, let your words be few, or be laconic, be a man of few words. When you get to heaven, you will meet God. If I told you God was outside standing on a street corner, would you want to go out there and meet him? Probably you'd say, well, sure, yeah, I'd like to go meet God. Unfortunately, the Bible says no man can see God and live in this earthly body. So you will meet God, and it's probably not what you think. See, God is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient. He's immutable, he's veracity, he's personal love, he's impersonal love, he's justice, he's sovereignty, he's righteousness. What God is, you might not understand. If you got a vision of a big gray bearded man sitting on a throne with a crown on his head, that might not be what you find. And I'll tell you something else. You might not be as familiar with God in heaven as you think you're going to be. You might not walk up and slap him on the back and say, hey, God, it's me, Herbie. I made it today. Not going to happen. There's protocol in heaven, just like there's protocol on earth. There's protocol in heaven. And you want to be introduced to the court of God, and you want to hear, this is my well-done servant right here. You want the Lord Jesus Christ to introduce you. So let your words be few. God's in heaven. He's watching, he's listening, and you are headed there if you have believed in Jesus Christ as your Savior. But frankly, nobody can know exactly where it's located. I mean, I can tell you this, it cannot be seen with any man-made telescope. I mean, you can look and look and look and search through the second heaven, the universe, and you'll never see the third heaven because it's the spiritual realm. So you can see what's in the first heaven, the atmosphere. You can see what's in the second heaven, the universe, but you cannot see what's in the third heaven. And oh, by the way, the first heaven and the second heaven will be destroyed. I'll show you that. So listen, old Satan, AKA the devil, he was originally in heaven, but he was cast out because of his sin. The Bible tells us in Isaiah 14, 12 through 14, how are you fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning? How are you cut down to the ground, you who weakened the nations? For you have said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven. I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of the congregation. His original sin was his arrogance. He thought he could replace God. He thought he was equal to God. He thought he could judge and rule as good as God. and he lost. He's condemned to the lake of fire. He doesn't want to go there. He will try to use you to get out of it if he can. If he can vindicate his evil actions by showing God that you're a loser, that you claim to be a Christian and look what you do. And if you love him, how could you not love me? If you could forgive him, how can you not forgive me? That's the old argument that Satan's been throwing for years, but he's already been tried, judged, and condemned. And the fact that we're here is sort of like an appeal trial. It's the angelic conflict. He wants to use you to get out of going to the lake of fire, but it's not going to happen. So he got into some arrogance, assumed that he could take over the throne of God. And he was cut down to the ground and cast to the earth. And this is where he is. This is why we know it's his domain. We don't belong here. Our domain is in Uranus or heaven. Now, what about heaven? What's it look like? I mean, we got all kind of visions. Well, heaven is beyond description, the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 2, 9. I don't care what people tell you. It says, the eye has not seen, nor has the ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man the things God has prepared for those who love him. There's no descriptive analogy that'll tell us what heaven is like. I can tell you this, there'll be colors you've never seen. There'll be sounds you've never heard. There'll be images you've never dreamed of. That's what heaven is like. It's the abode of God. The Lord Jesus Christ is there. And any believer who has trusted in Christ from the Old Testament to the New Testament, they are there as well. Remember in the Old Testament, people got saved by looking far to the cross. In the New Testament, you get saved by looking back at the cross, but it's the same cross. It's the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God without spot and without blemish. John himself, the apostle John, wrote about going to heaven. In Revelation 4, verse 1, he said, after these things I looked, and behold, a door stood open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking to me, saying, come up here. And I will show you things which much take place after this. The book of Revelation deals with the second advent of Christ. It deals with the tribulation. It deals with the millennial reign of Christ. There's so much to study in the book of Revelation. And so John was given a vision of what it was like and told to come up, take a look around, write about it. And he wrote about it. And it's a place where you and I want to be. This is why we trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. to vindicate God's grace, to vindicate God's justice, to demonstrate to Satan that God was indeed fair, and we have eternal life with the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven. John wrote about it, Revelation 4.1. So when you get there, assuming you're going, assuming you have trusted in the Lord Jesus Christ to save you, have you done that? Have you made the most critical decision of your life? Have you believed in the Lord Jesus Christ? I'm not saying have you been a good person, and I'm not saying did you work hard, and I'm not saying were you faithful in church attendance, and did you tithe, and did you sing in the choir? I'm not saying that. I'm saying did you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ? Why would I make it like that? Because the Bible says God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life. The Bible says he that believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Do you hear it? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, Paul told the Roman jailer, and you will be saved. So many people want to add something to it. The issue is this. Is he the son of God? Is he the redeemer? Did he pay for your sin? If you can put your faith and trust in that and simply go to the Father and say, Heavenly Father, I believe your son Jesus died for me and I'm willing to accept his forgiveness and accept him as savior. That's the ticket to heaven. That's how you get there. It's just that simple because you can't earn it and you can't buy it. You don't deserve it. It's a free gift from God. That's why the Bible says for by grace, Are you saved through faith? It's a gift from God, not of works, unless anyone should brag about it. So are you going to recognize your loved ones when you get there? Well, here's what the Bible says. 1 Corinthians 15, 35 through 49, all flesh is not the same flesh. There's one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds. And there are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies. Terrestrial bodies are things that refer to the earth and celestial are things that refer to space. So there are bodies on the earth and bodies in space. So again, there are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies, but the glory of the celestial is one and the glory of the terrestrial is the other. There's one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars. For one star differs from another star in glory. And so also is it in the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it's raised in incorruption, it's sown in dishonor, it's raised in glory, it's sown in weakness, it's raised in power, it's sown in a natural body, and it is raised in a spiritual body. There's a natural body and there is a spiritual body. And so it's written, the first man Adam became a natural body, a living being, and the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and after that, the spiritual. The first man was of the earth made of dust. The second man is the Lord from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust. And is the heavenly man, so are those who are made of the heavenlies. And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly man. That's for those of you that believed in Christ. So we're not all the same in heaven. There are differences. We're sown in honor. We're sown in dishonor, raised in glory. We're sown in weakness, raised in power. That's our birth. Natural body is not the spiritual body. The heavenly body is a spiritual body. You probably won't recognize it. You probably don't know what it looks like. You may run into me and you may say, you know, I recognize your voice, Rick, but you don't look like what I thought you were going to look like. Well, I'm in a resurrection body. That's why I'd be in a perfect body, a body like that of Christ. Because that verse says, if we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly man. In heaven, we will have a body like Christ's. Dr. David Jeremiah of the famous Turning Point ministry says this, there are nearly 700 references to heaven in the Bible. Did you know that in the Old Testament, believers, when they passed away, didn't go directly to heaven, they went to paradise. There they awaited the appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ, and then he took them to the third heaven at his resurrection. I'll read it to you so you can understand it in Ephesians 4, 8 through 10. Therefore he says, therefore he says when he ascended on high, that's the resurrection, he led captivity captive, that's taking those out of paradise, took them to heaven, And he gave gifts to men. Those are different communication gifts, spiritual gifts. Now this, he ascended. He ascended, what does it mean? But that he also first descended into the lower parts of the earth. And he who descended is also the one who ascended far above all the heavens. That's universe one and the earth and the universe. So they might fill all things. So heaven is beyond the first heaven, beyond the second heaven to the third heaven. When our Lord Jesus Christ said, it is finished. He gave up his spirit. He descended into paradise, and he took all those believers with him that were there in paradise, and he took them to the third heaven. And what was left is a place of torments, and that's what we call hell today. So please understand that. He descended on high, and he led captivity captive. Anybody who dies today doesn't go to paradise. They go straight to the throne of God, straight to heaven, straight to the third heaven. Okay, so Luke fills us in on those who died prior to Christ's arrival. This is where it comes from, what I just got through telling you. Listen to what Luke said about it. There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus full of sores who was laid at his gates, desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, the dogs came and licked his sores. And so it was that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. That's paradise. And the rich man died and was buried. And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and he saw Abraham afar off. There was a gulf between the two. And Lazarus was in his bosom, in the bosom of Abraham, being comforted by Abraham. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus that he can dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, son, do you remember that in your lifetime you received your good things and likewise Lazarus evil things, but now he's comforted and you are tormented. And beside all of this between us and you, there is a great gulf fixed so that no one can go from here to there. Those that want to pass from here cannot go, and those that want to come from there cannot come to us. And then the rich man said, I beg you, therefore, Father Abraham, that you would send him to my father's house, for I have five brothers that he may testify to them and tell them lest they come here too. Abraham said to him, They have Moses, they have the prophets, let them listen to them. And he said, No, Father Abraham, but if one goes back from the dead, they will then repent and listen. And Abraham said, no, they won't. If they don't hear the voice of Moses, They don't hear the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead. And that's true today. If someone walked out of the grave and said, listen, I've been to hell and here's what it's like and you don't want to go there, nobody's going to listen to him. He's just going to try to sell a book. And there's a lot of that going on today, isn't there? I died and went to heaven. I died and heard Jesus. I died and went to hell. Everybody got a book to sell. Don't buy it. That's not true. The Bible says there's no man that has ability to retain the spirit in the day of death. And when Paul did go to heaven and did take a look around, I'll read that to you here in just a second, he was told not to tell anybody what he saw. God is watching you from heaven. Remember that. Again, I remind you of that. Psalm 14, 2. The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men to see if there are any who understand him or who seek him. That's all God wants you to do, to understand him. learn about him, learn what he is, and seek him, seek to please him. Why is that so hard? Because you don't believe in God? Because you don't think God exists? You say you're an atheist, is that right? Well, I'm sorry, but that's not defensible. See, to be an atheist, you gotta be God yourself, because you gotta say, I've looked everywhere in all the universe, and there's no God. And the only person that could do that is God himself. So you have to say as an atheist, I don't believe God exists. As a Christian, you say, I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Both of them are faith-based decisions. The atheist makes his decision based on faith and so does the believer. So God is watching, looking to see who wants to know him, checking us out, wanting who wants to understand me. Now, the Apostle Paul, as I told you, talked about going to heaven in 2 Corinthians 12, 2 through 4. He said, I know a man in Christ 14 years ago, whether he was in the body, I don't know, or whether he was out of the body, I don't know. Only God knows that. But such a one was called up to the third heaven. There's where I get the word the third heaven now. And I know such a man, whether in the body or out of the body, I don't know. God knows. He repeated it. how he was called up into paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. He was not allowed to repeat it. He was not allowed to say what he saw and what he heard. So remember that when someone tries to sell you a book about going to heaven. Now, believers, when do we go to heaven? We go to heaven at the point of death or the exit resurrection, one of the two. In 1 Thessalonians 4, 17, the exit resurrection called the rapture of the church. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we will always be with the Lord. Always, always. Not for a period of time and sent back. Always. Once you go to heaven, that's your eternal abode. In heaven, believers in Christ have a higher rank than angels. Did you know that? Once you get there as a New Testament believer, a church age believer, a member of the royal family of God, you're higher than angels. Ephesians 2, 5 through 6, even when we were dead in trespasses, He made us alive together with Christ. For by grace you have been saved through faith and raised us up together and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus. In Christ Jesus. No angel is in Christ Jesus. You are. Christ in you, the hope of glory. In heaven Christ sits at the right hand of the Father, Ephesians 1.20, which he worketh in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places. So your divine promise about this, Jesus said in John 11.25, I am the resurrection, I am the life. Whoever believes in me, though he may die, he will live. And whoever lives and believes in me shall never die again. Do you believe this? This is what it's talking about. You don't go through the second death in Revelation 20 talks about it. You will live eternally with God in heaven forever and forever and forever. That's a divine promise. In the eternity future, the earth and this universe will be destroyed and replaced. The first heaven and the second heaven will be done away with. Where do I get that? 2 Peter 3.10. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise. and the elements will melt with fervent heat. Both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. And then again in 2 Peter 3.12, God will replace it with a new heaven and a new earth. 2 Peter 3.12 and 13, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, that's the second heaven, and the elements will melt with fervent heat. Nevertheless, we, according to his promise, listen carefully now, we, according to his promise, look for a new heaven and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. The new heaven and the new earth is your eternal resting place. In Revelation 21, one through five, the Bible says, now I saw a new heaven and a new earth. For the first heaven and the first earth had done away with, and there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the holy city called the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is now with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people. God himself will be with them and he will be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eye and there should be no more death, no more sorrow, no more crying, no more pain. The former things will be all passed away. And then he who sat on the throne said, behold, I make all things new. And he said to me, John, write these words down. They are faithful and they are true. That's heaven. That's what you have to look forward to. There's a lot to study there if you're interested in the future prophecy and things like that, but that's where you're headed if you're a believer in Jesus Christ. Without believing in Christ, I hate to tell you where you're headed, but you're headed for hell and eventually the lake of fire. And that is not a very nice place to be. You don't want to be baking in that lake, I assure you. So I hope you've paid attention and I hope you've listened. It's critical that you make that decision of leaving Christ today while your life is still kicking. Don't put it off, not even for a second. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Floodline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
In this thought-provoking episode of Drive Radio, we dive into the intricacies of automotive maintenance and decision-making. Beginning with a fascinating automotive trivia question, our experts discuss the details of ignition timing for classic cars, then swiftly move into a real-world dilemma faced by Jim, who is grappling with a costly coolant leak in his 2005 Duramax Chevy. Our hosts weigh in on the financial and practical considerations of replacing vs. repairing an engine, providing listeners with insights and advice that could save them thousands of dollars in potential costs.
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Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
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It is a trick question.
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Watch this.
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Because Chevy didn't make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn't come out until 62. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb until 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado's select auto care centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it's time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560 The Source.
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All right, and we are Backdrive Radio, KLZ 560. Somebody asked me, too, what was the console safe name? And I apologize. The reason I didn't mention it earlier is I just had to look it up. I bought it on Amazon because I did some researching and figured out that I could buy it there for the same price I could from the company direct. And with Amazon Prime, I got free shipping. And if I don't like it and want to send it back, no big deal, which is always harder to do outside of Amazon. So I bought it on Amazon. And it's called a WASAI, W-A-S-A-I, W-A-S-A-I, which I think from doing a little bit of research is the exact same unit that comes in the GM. In other words, it's the same unit I think the GM puts in from the factory. Don't quote me on that, but that's the unit that I actually bought. And I'm on their website right now, and it's console safe. And I think they make them for just about all trucks. I mean, they've got a ton of different makes, models, and so on. And you've got the option, of course, to go put in what you're making model of vehicle and so on and so forth.
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So it's customized. It's not just some...
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No, it fits that console. In my case, it fits that console just like a glove, and I'm not exaggerating, just like a glove. So anyways, that's the name brand I bought. W-A-S-A-I, Wasai, I guess is how you would say that, and that's the one that I bought. Jim in Monument, you are next.
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Okay, hi.
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How you doing, Jim?
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I'm good. I just got a question. I've got a 2005 Duramax Chevy.
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Okay.
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And I'm leaking coolant out of one of the head gaskets.
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Okay.
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And this is a trusted mechanic. I'll use him to work on my Duramax. And he said to replace both of those head gaskets and do all the work that it requires, the total bill is going to be $11,000.
SPEAKER 12 :
I was going to say, it's not going to be cheap.
SPEAKER 09 :
I knew it was, and I was expecting maybe half that.
SPEAKER 12 :
How many miles are on it, Jim?
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197,000.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, you're halfway to an engine at 10K. Yeah.
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Yeah. At $10,000? I mean, at that price? And I guess the next question is, what's the rest of the truck like? Is it in great shape, paint interior? What's all that like?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, it is. I've had several comments, and it's very nice for $2,500.
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Personally, I would have him price it both ways. I would look at if we just did head gaskets, what's it look like, versus if I do an engine, what's it look like?
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Oh.
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That's a tough one. Because you're at 200,000 miles. I mean, granted, that Duramax will typically go further than that, and they're not well-known for having coolant leaks. There's a lot of those running around that have far more miles on them than that, so I'm not going to say that that's common. How bad is it leaking?
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Oh, I have to put two pans under it. It catches. Oh. I mean, it's not just running out, but it's dripping pretty good out. He said it doesn't seem to leak when it's being driven. Just after it's on its cool down is when it starts dripping. And it may drip even if I don't drive it for a few days. It'll just sit there and just drip slowly. Okay. Okay. I mean, he said, of course, if you do one, you don't do... No, you do them both. No, no, no, you're going to do it, you do both.
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No, he's right on that.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, the labor was like $7,200 of that.
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Yeah, yeah, no, in that case, it's going to be mostly labor. There'll be some parts, as you know, but yeah, no, the majority of that's going to be labor. Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, so I'm just curious.
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And that's where when you do an entire engine, your labor is probably not a lot different from doing a complete engine versus pulling the heads on the unit that you have. And then keep in mind, when you do a new engine, you're going to get engine, injector pump, injectors, all of the parts that go with it, the turbocharger, all of that. I mean, that's the advantage of buying a new engine versus... redoing your old 200 000 mile engine yeah are you talking about like a remanufactured engine yep okay i don't even know why i i haven't looked for a while on that to see does gm even offer a reman engine for that that's a good question i would yeah i know we could always go to jasper but i'm not sure even if they do those Yeah, I'm guessing that there's going to be a – well, I'm very sure that Duramax probably builds an engine. There's several that – I mean, I'm looking online right now, and it looks like they're going to be anywhere depending upon what engine you buy. ATK is a builder, of course. There's several different builders out there. You're looking from $7,000 to $15,000 on the engine itself. And then you've got to put it in.
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Well, there's a time to put it in.
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But you're going to end up with a new engine versus a 200,000-mile-old engine as far as valves, so all your valve train, your pistons and rings and bearings and cam and injectors. I mean, all of that, Jim, you've got 200,000 miles on. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, you'll have new head gaskets, but honestly.
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I guess the question is, what is your long-term plan for that? Yeah, thank you, Steve. So are you going to keep it two years or five years or ten years?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I use it for work a lot, but the main thing is I pull my camper with it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
And it's just so much easier pulling a camper with that than a standard V8. Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I did look, too. Steve mentioned Jasper. Jasper also has a reman engine for that. Your technician should, if he's got any kind of, as long as he's got a legitimate shop, he can buy from Jasper Engines as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
You cannot, but he can.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Jasper doesn't sell to the public. They only sell to authorized installers. But I'm sure if he's got a legitimate shop, he passes the test for that. That shouldn't be a big issue. So that's an option. He could do a Jasper remanufactured engine in it. And, again, I don't know what the price would be because, again, they're all over the map. I'm looking online right now. I mean, literally, they're everywhere from $7,500 up, depending on – And keep in mind, there's also ones you can buy that are an upgrade to what you have now, meaning they've got more horsepower, torque, and so on. So kind of the sky's the limit on what you do as far as that goes, Jim.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Well, I have to do something. I mean, I can't just... Not Vixit, I don't think.
SPEAKER 12 :
You can buy... Now, personally, I would buy one complete that has turbo and everything on it. I don't think I'd buy just a long block. Because you can buy a long block, by the way. It looks like all day long for about $7,500. You can buy heads and bottom end, short block and heads, so make basically a long block. You can buy a long block for $7,500, but it's not going to have all of your other ancillary things. You're not going to get injectors. You're not going to get turbocharger and things like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
But you're still going to be, I mean, even at that, by the time you buy the other things I just mentioned, you're still $20,000. Yeah. But you're $10,000 for not even half of what you're going to get. I mean, I hate to say it this way, but... You get more than twice as much. Yeah, you're getting more than twice the value out of doing a complete engine than you are doing head gaskets.
SPEAKER 06 :
But it's $20,000. It is. And that's the hard part.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, what you have to look at is longevity-wise and how long... You have to do... Like anything else, I used to even tell my customers when I had my own shops, Jim, this is where you take a piece of paper out and you say, okay, for $20,000, how many miles... How many miles in years do I need to drive this to get that $20,000 back? Right. Knowing a new truck is $100,000. True. And it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
To do the same that this truck does.
SPEAKER 12 :
To go replace your truck with a new Duramax, even the cheap versions are $80,000. Yeah. You go buy a fully loaded one that's probably similar to what you own, it's $100,000. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, people are laughing at me right now thinking, no way, John, there's no way a new truck's $100,000. Yeah, they are. They're over $100,000 if you buy a full bore one. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Well, okay. I just wanted to make sure that— Which, really quick— I didn't think he was lying to me, but I— No, he's not lying.
SPEAKER 12 :
And, again, not laughing, Jim, but, you know, when you think, well, it's $100,000 for a new truck or $20,000 for a new engine, now the engine doesn't seem so expensive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Especially if you can get another five to seven years out of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which you can.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, could you even sell mine the way it is?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. An 05? Yes. An 05, somebody will buy, knowing they're going to have to do some work to it. You won't get full price, of course, out of it. Yes, you could sell yours as is. In fact, one thing you could try. I was going to mention this. I'm glad you brought that up. One thing you could try, just to see how it works, is there is a product called K-Seal. It works extremely well. It's a coolant additive that will go in and find and stop those leaks and might even stop all of them. And if you did get them all stopped, well, now you sell it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. BG actually has a stop leak too. I don't know if it works as good as KCL.
SPEAKER 12 :
Just my own personal experience, I've even fixed, you know, the old Ford six liters, the EGR coolers would get rotted through and they would leak and they would smoke like a sieve because coolant was pouring right into the engine itself. And if you're in the middle of a snowstorm, Jim, and you don't have time to stop and put a cooler on, you're doing everything you possibly can. I had some of those back in the day, literally, where you could pour K-Seal in and I'd make it through the entire winter with that old cooler being bad. So it works.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's worth a try for sure.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, you can try that, see how it works. And again, I'm not trying to be, you know, and what I would do selling it would be, listen, hey, I've had some issues. I know it's probably going to need some head gaskets. It's not leaking now. I did put some additive in it. And that's what I would do if you sold it on a retail basis. If you went and traded the truck off, you just trade it. Because it's going to go to auction anyways.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. And what do you think something like that would go for?
SPEAKER 12 :
$20,000 minimum.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, mine, just to sell mine.
SPEAKER 12 :
$20,000 minimum? I think so. Or more?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, once it's fixed.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, if you get it to quit leaking, it's worth $20,000 and above. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was just thinking the way it sits.
SPEAKER 12 :
The way it sits, I have no idea. That's a matter of what will somebody pay knowing it's leaking. Sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you have to have a selected customer.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, because most people aren't even going to look at it. You're going to need that guy that can go in there and put head gaskets in it himself. And by the way, he's going to want to pay $10,000 for it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
If that. Yeah. He's going to pay whatever it costs. If that vehicle's worth $22,000, $23,000, and he knows he's going to put $10,000 in it to fix the head gaskets, he's now going to pay $12,000, $13,000 or so.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I understand that. I mean, $10,000 is more than I expected.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, no. Well, keep in mind, that truck running well, even with that kind of mileage, that truck running well, and if it's clean paint, interior, and so on, it'll bring $20,000 to $25,000 all day long. Yeah. Because it's an 05 without all the emissions crap on it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it is nice. There's no rust at all on it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, it's an 05, so it doesn't have it. There's a lot of guys looking for that truck because it doesn't have the emission controls, Jim. Yeah. That's what makes it worth more money. I didn't think about that. Okay. There are guys out there looking for that truck. So that's where, honestly, if you could put the case seal in it, get it pretty well sealed up, even trading at a dealer, they'll give you that kind of money out of it. Really? Oh, yeah, because they can flip it. They can make money on that truck.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. All right. A lot to think about. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, Jim. Hopefully we didn't muddy the waters up but give you some other things you can think about on what to do next. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right, I got another couple of text messages in on the console that I put in my truck. Again, it's Wasai, I believe is how you pronounce it. W-A-S-A-I. And you can go to their website directly if you want to. This is what I did. So go to their website directly, wasaisafe.com. dot com so wasi safe dot com look up your part number this is what i did i cheated look up your part number then if you've got amazon prime it'll be exact same price but you get free shipping now you get free shipping on their website as well But with Amazon, as you guys all know, if there's something wrong and you need to send it back, it's just a cakewalk. You literally go in. I don't want it anymore for whatever reason. They give you a little print label that you literally take that label and go to Whole Foods even and drop it off, and you're done. I mean, the return process is way easier than what anybody else would do. So that's why I bought it from Amazon. So I looked up the part number. on Wasai's website, then went to Amazon and bought it from Amazon because it's exactly the same price, and you get that returnability that you're not going to get otherwise. So that's how I bought it. So that's the safe that I bought for my truck. Don in Littleton, you're next.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hi, John. Hi, Steve. Nice to talk with you guys.
SPEAKER 12 :
You too. Hi, Don.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, I came across an interesting truck, an electric truck, that I thought you might have a comment on. It's called Telo, T-E-L-O. It's an electric truck supposed to come out in 2026. Kind of an odd-looking shaped truck.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think I've heard of that one before. I think I've looked it up before. I'm looking right now. Yeah. I get so many of these. Yep, I've seen that one before. Yeah, it is kind of odd-looking.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it is. And it's not a very big truck either. It's the size of a Mini.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, kind of a, I mean, honestly, kind of a size of a side-by-side.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. I've never seen it, but I... I don't know. It would be interesting to see if it does come out or not.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I don't know much about that. Is that one they're going to import? Is it made here? What's the scoop on it?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, I don't know all the details on it, John. I haven't researched it. I just saw a picture of it on the Internet, and I thought I'll talk to John about it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, somebody had sent me something about that a while back as well, Don, and I did not do a ton of research to determine, you know, is it made here, does it have airbags, et cetera, et cetera. The biggest thing on that is going to be can they get it imported.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's right.
SPEAKER 12 :
If it's not made here. Don't they have 100% tariffs? Yeah, and EVs will have 100% tariffs, so that'll be interesting to see if that actually comes about. Yeah, right. And it's made here. It's a California truck company. I just looked up. So that is made here, meaning you'll be able to buy it here once they come out, if they come out.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can reserve one for $150 if you want to do that.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that's a pretty low-risk deal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I guess so. It is a funny-looking thing, though.
SPEAKER 12 :
It is funny-looking. You're right about that. It looks like a snub-nose kind of thing. Well, and they've got other vehicles it looks like they're trying to come out with as well. Yeah, I mean, from the looks of it, Don, I can't complain. I mean, I guess it really is going to come down to what's the price.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know it. It would be interesting to see. Well, you've seen the slate truck, you know. I have.
SPEAKER 12 :
That one's not very good-looking either.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's just a little Ford Ranger looks like.
SPEAKER 12 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. But I wonder with the going away of the rebates.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's going to be the big. Steve was even asking me that at the beginning of the show. What's going to happen to EVs moving forward? And frankly, my take on it is they're going to have to figure out a way to do better on financing, either lower the price, do something that gets them back down around what they were with the federal tax rebates that are now going away on Tuesday, the end Tuesday. I think, Don, they're not going to have any choice but to do some things along those lines or they won't sell them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's right. They're going to have to figure out something to make them attractive.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right. They'll have to stand on their own now. That's right, which they should have all along anyways.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. On a different subject, have you seen the new Bronco Raptor?
SPEAKER 12 :
I have. I've driven one, actually.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, really? Are they pretty amazing? Pretty fast.
SPEAKER 12 :
Personally, they run well. No complaints there. I drove one for a week. It's been a year ago or so. Yeah, they work very well. They run very well, very strong, all of that. I personally, I hate the look. I can't stand that super wide. You know, they stick the wheels out, so they put this big, huge, wide fender flare and everything on it to cover up the extra wide tire and wheel package they put on them. And just me personally, I'm not a fan of the looks. But how it worked was really great, Don. Absolutely great.
SPEAKER 08 :
Interesting. I just saw my first one the other day, and, yeah, the fender flares are not real pretty.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're gaudy. I'm sorry for it, but they're gaudy. I have no other way to say it, Don. They're gaudy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, somebody hit those flares with an ugly stick.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, man. And by law, you know, DOT, they have no choice but to do that. That's why they look like that. But they are, in my opinion, that's one of the ugliest rigs on the road, I'm sorry to say.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. It looked like the Raptor body was bigger than a regular, wider than a regular Bronco body.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's not. It's just because of the way they do the fender flares and junk on it. Okay, okay. That's all. The body itself, interior space, all that, no different whatsoever. They just got to put those big flares on because of how big the tires are.
SPEAKER 08 :
I imagine that's a pricey vehicle, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, I think you're pushing. I'm looking right now. They're $80,000 or so. Yeah, 80, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a lot of coin for... It's a lot of coin for a Bronco.
SPEAKER 12 :
But they run well. I mean, it's 400 plus... I think it's 418 horsepower. I'm looking it up here. 418 horsepower, 3 liter on the EcoBoost. And again, they run extremely well. They got different suspension and everything on them. Yeah, they work fabulous. But personally, if I was going to buy a new Bronco, I'd buy the Heritage Edition if it were me. It's, you know, 30 grand less money, and I think it looks better.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Well... Always a pleasure talking with you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Likewise, Don. I appreciate it very much. Thank you very much. Let's get Lucy in before we go to our break. Lucy, go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, John. How are you doing?
SPEAKER 12 :
Good, Lucy. How are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Very well. Thank you. First of all, I have to tell you, I always back into parking spaces, and I have since I've been driving, which I don't know too many people who do other than I heard you say you do it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I do. I was taught that way from, you know, I was 12 years of age. I've been driving that way since, Lucy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Got it. On my must-haves for a car, my 2003 RX is still running since Ridgeline put in that transmission. As a matter of fact, I have 225,000 on it. But when I get my new NX, of course it will come with most of these, but my must-haves are heated seats so that after a day of snow skiing I can jump in and it's more comforting. A sunroof because I'm from the convertible era, and my first car was a 63 Bel Air convertible. I have to have an AM radio.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, this is something that I did with that new Subaru when I bought it that it didn't come with. I tinted the front windows. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because for gals, we're very kind of... into keeping our looks as good as we can, and sun is very damaging to your skin. I think that's a girl thing.
SPEAKER 12 :
You're my hero, Lucy. You're my hero. Everything you do, everything you're talking about are some of the same things that I look at. I never gave that a thought about the sun damage. Yeah, the UV rays.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Lucy.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and just really quick, I'll add, because I've mentioned this before, but I'm going to throw this in. Any of you that have stigmatism in your eyes, guys at ProTech who are our sponsor, Roy and them, they tint my front windshields, which it's not tinted that you can actually see it's tinted, Lucy, but it's got a protectant on it where at night with stigmatism, it gets rid of that flare the lights give off. Really?
SPEAKER 06 :
That little starburst? Oh, it works great.
SPEAKER 12 :
It works fabulous. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good to know. I didn't do that. When I bought that new Subaru, I knew I wanted the clear bra. I knew I wanted the ceramic coating. And I absolutely had to have the front windows done. But I didn't even know there was a treatment for the windshield.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes. ProTech Auto Shield, they can do all that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And with our intense sun here, that makes sense.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I wanted to thank you for the gun safe idea.
SPEAKER 12 :
You're welcome.
SPEAKER 05 :
I wasn't even aware they made one for a car.
SPEAKER 12 :
You're welcome. You're welcome, Lucy. You're my hero, Lucy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Anything that makes me feel more secure and safe and, you know, make it harder for the thieves. There you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. Lucy, I appreciate you very much, as always. Thank you for calling in. You're very welcome. We've got a great review coming up. I did a Kia K4 on Monday. Listen up for that. We'll be back right after that. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 04 :
Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Normally this time of the week, again, I have my son with me, and we do a car review on a weekly basis. And since he's not here, I have one that I will do. In fact, this is a review that I've been wanting to do here for a few weeks. And I had a chance to hop in this car about a month ago, right before I went on vacation. And, of course, everything happening since vacation, I didn't get a chance to get to this as quickly as I would have liked to. And several of you have asked me specifically about this car. And it is the new Kia K4. That's the name of the car, K4. And there are several different models in the lineup. The car that we drove was pretty well equipped and came in retail price of just under $28,000. So right at that number. That's the GT line turbo, by the way. So they've got a GT line turbo, a GT line, an EX, an LX, or sorry, an LXS, and an LX. The LX starting at $21,990. Now, I drove the one with the turbo engine, and I will say that for our elevation, which we always lose some power at our elevation, it worked well. Now, is this a car that's going to set land speed records? No, it is not. You're not buying a high-horsepower car. You're buying a four-door sedan at a nice entry-level price that in some cases is less money than a used car. So keep that in mind. You can buy this car brand new for less money than a used car would cost and getting the full warranty. And by the way, very nice car. I will say this. When I got in this car, and I'm not exaggerating, and I always ask my wife, okay, what do you think this car costs? We kind of play that game. I never look at the window sticker, the Monroney prior to me hopping in a car because I kind of like to play the game of what do you think this car costs. And I do the same thing because I don't look because I kind of want to know based upon how well does it drive, how good does it look, what's the fit and finish like, what's the interior comfort like, and so on. How noisy is it and so on. One thing I'm going to start doing, which I mentioned on Drive Radio on Saturdays, I'm going to start using a decibel meter on a lot of the cars I drive to tell you how quiet they are on the inside or not. That's one of the things some of you have been asking for, so I will definitely do that. This is a car, by the way, that gets high 30s, almost 40 miles to the gallon, as far as fuel economy goes. Very well equipped. I go back to what my wife and I both thought the price was, well over $30,000, by the way. We weren't even close. I thought this car would come in the mid-30s, just the way it's equipped. That's how nice it's set up interior-wise, agronomically, and so on. It's an extremely nice car, especially when you look at the price. But when you get inside this car and climb in, you won't think you're driving a $25,000 car. It's that well-equipped. And, folks, I'm not exaggerating when I say that. So for some of you that have been thinking about buying a nice four-door sedan, maybe you've got a teen driver coming along. Maybe you're just looking to do something different for your daily driver, and you're looking for something that's more on the economical end of things. The Kia K4 fits that very, very well. It's got a very nice dash layout. The way the screen comes across the entire—not the entire, but— Two-thirds of the front of the car, of the dash of the car, very well laid out. The buttons are easy to find, which it does have some buttons, which actually I really like. So, Kia, if you're listening, I appreciate that. But they've incorporated one big screen that handles all of your – what you're seeing to drive, you know, speedometer, all of that, plus all of your nav. And if you want to run CarPlay or whatever else you're doing, all that's kind of off to the right. They've incorporated that into one big screen. For the money. For the money, this is one of the toughest cars to beat because it's got a nice roomy interior. The trunk is nice and sizable. Again, the engine, no, you're not going to set any land speed records. But for daily driving, does it do everything you need to do? Absolutely, it does. I did not look to see what kind of offers there are on this car. I would go check this out at your local Kia dealer. And by the way, when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush, both from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason, sent you.
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All right, we are back. Got a message, by the way, from Justin up at Ridgeline in Boulder. He'll be there until about 2.30 this afternoon. If any of you have any questions on buying a car, used car, want to get rid of your car, whatever the case may be, he'll be up there taking care of you. So just go to RidgelineAutobrokers.com. Buck, you are next. Go ahead. Good morning. Good morning, Buck.
SPEAKER 10 :
I shouldn't tell you that it's a pretty nice day up here, but it is a pretty nice day. Well, that's good. The weather has got a little breeze to it. And our colors are changing up here, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
So we don't have to do the I-70 drive.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and I got, just for everybody listening, I've had two people send me in pictures from the high country, Steamboat Springs area, also up around Vail, and looks like there's still a lot of green. I mean, colors are great, but there's still a lot of green, meaning there's another week or so of that left.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, it's... We might run up that way, but we're going to wait until the middle of the week when everybody else... Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, good idea.
SPEAKER 10 :
John, you mentioned the Dodge pickups and them not following through on the warranty. Yes. And to my understanding, a lot of it had to do with the diesels. Yes. And the pump, the CP45. That's correct. I don't remember which.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, you're right. That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm curious... Why Cummings wouldn't – Dodge could have leaned on Cummings to get Cummings to help them with the – And that one, that's probably way beyond, you know, my pay grade, Buck.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know what their agreement back and forth is on that end of things and how that's, you know, handled internally. I mean, I would think the same, but I don't know how internally. If somebody does and you want to clue us in, by all means let us know, but I don't know how they handle that part of it, Buck. I don't know what their arrangement is.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, you have a lot better insight into what goes on in the industry than I do.
SPEAKER 12 :
And by the way, the reason I say that is part of what Cummins might come back and say would be, well, you know what, for what you guys need to meet this, that, and the other standards and emissions and so on, we built it to the specs that you guys actually told us to build it to, so now it's your problem. I have no idea, Buck. I don't know how that works.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Okay. The other thing is I called you a couple weeks ago and was mentioned that one of the people that I talked to that should be knowledgeable mentioned that he saw all the aftermarket parks came through one big distributor. I have done a little research, and I find that's somewhat false or fairly false in that Denso... Bosch, all of those companies that provide OEM stuff also provide a lot of stuff to the aftermarket.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's correct. That is correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I was mistaken.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, no, and for everybody listening, that is correct. Now, I will say this, Buck, that I think where some of the confusion comes in is those manufacturers can build a lot of different products good better and best products all coming out of the same plant meaning what they build for the oem might be different for this particular aftermarket versus the other part of the aftermarket versus that's what they do in other words every one of those parts is not created equal i will grant you that And that's true, but that's true whether it be, you know, brake pads to some of the rotating electrical to you name it. Sensors. Sensors and so on, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
But if you're going to have your car worked on or if you're doing, you know, most consumers have a choice of whether they want to use A, B, or C brake pads depending upon, you know, you can go to, let's say... all breaks or something like that, and get a cheapy, well, not $100 anymore, but $200 break job, and do it again in six months, or you can spend a little more and not have to go back for several years. So I think that's a consumer choice.
SPEAKER 12 :
I agree with you. To a certain extent. I agree with you.
SPEAKER 10 :
The other thing is, do you think, They'll ever lower the emission standards, particularly on diesels, knowing how much trouble we're having with DEF. I'm fortunate. I've got a 734, so I don't need to worry about it. But do you think with Trump in there, or do you think that's too hot a potato even for them to tackle? I know he's taken off the...
SPEAKER 12 :
I think it's a real possibility. In fact, there's been some talk in and amongst the EPA and the leaders of, and his name slips my mind. I'm sorry, some of you probably have it off the top of your head. Lee, Lee, Lee Zeldin, I believe is his name, Buck. Yeah, there has been talk from him that they want to loosen up some of those, quote unquote, restrictive things that are driving the price of certain vehicles up and frankly, at the end of the day, probably aren't helping. the emission sides of things anyways. In fact, in some cases, you could argue that there's more fuel being used and it's actually counterproductive. And so I think that, yes, I think you could see in this administration some changes along those lines when it comes, you know, for example, one of the things they've already talked about changing, I think it's already in the works, is how far a truck can run when the DEF, you know, when the DEF fluid runs out. Right now, they're very limited when that fluid starts to run low. They're talking about changing that to where they could run empty for 1,500 miles, for example.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I was not aware of that. I know in the ag community, these newer tractors with the DEF, boy, after... They've been around long enough. Everybody is hunting for the older tractors that are prior to DEF.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And so there's some talk along those lines. And if that starts to happen, I think, Buck, yes, you could see even some looser restrictions, maybe is a way to say it, on some of the other guidelines and things that are there now. Now, on top of that, I will also say that I think the manufacturers, you know, the new Cummins engine, for example, they're coming up with some things internally in the engine that will make it naturally cleaner. The new Duramaxes are that way, whereby the emissions control devices don't have to do as much anyway. So the manufacturers are also working on things that will reduce some of those costs, I guess you could say. Make it a cleaner motor, basically.
SPEAKER 10 :
Make it a cleaner engine, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Another question. That same pump was also used on the later Duramaxes and the later 734s, as I understand it.
SPEAKER 12 :
The 674s, yes, that's correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
The 674s, excuse me. That's correct. How come the Cummings seems to have had more problems with them than Duramax or Ford. Do you have any idea?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think, you know, every one of them uses a little different fuel delivery system, what they do with the injectors, the rail, the pumping system, and so on. Not just the injector pump, but everything that comes to and from it. And everyone, as you know, Buck, you know, there's difference in an inline versus the V8 and so on. And my gut feeling is it's because of those differences as to why Cummins had more issues than some of the others did. That's my opinion.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. If you're running one, you better put a little lubricity in with them.
SPEAKER 12 :
And run really good fuel, yes. In your fuel, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, have a good day.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, Buck, great questions. I appreciate that very much. Gary, you got a question on a Kia? Hang tight. We'll come back and take that. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And we are back. Gary in Denver, you're next. Go ahead, Gary.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, hi, John. Thanks for the review on that Kia. That sounds like the kind of car that I would like to buy.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, it was a very nice car. No complaints with that car whatsoever. Very nice car.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is that car subject to tariffs?
SPEAKER 12 :
Ooh, you know what? I don't know where it's made. Hold on a second here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let me... I assumed all those were made in Cleveland. I guess not.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, there's some that are made here. Let me look. I should have checked that, Gary. I apologize. They are made in Mexico, so they will have some, but not like they're coming from other countries.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think, is Mexico 50%? I can look it up.
SPEAKER 12 :
15, I want to say right now, isn't it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you might be right, so that's not too bad.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hang on, I'm looking it up really quick to tell you. I should know this by memory with all of what I'm doing now. Targeted goods are 50, but I don't think that means they did something different on the vehicle end of things. Auto parts are 25%, but I don't know what complete vehicles are. It doesn't say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, I can figure that out. What I was thinking is, Maybe buying that vehicle in a year just so that it's a used car instead of a new car. You could, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
You could. Some of those will be even done on a lease deal. Wait two years and buy an off-lease one for that matter.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's a good idea.
SPEAKER 12 :
Do that too.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, sometimes I listen to your program to think about investments, and I'm thinking with the expiration of the credits there's got to be a lot of people shorting stocks that are related to those kind of vehicles. Probably will be. This is probably... The horse is probably already out of the barn.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and as I said earlier, even Steve and I were talking, when it comes to EVs and with the credits going away, what's going to happen along those lines and what are they going to do? Really good question, Gary, because I do believe, and I talked about this this past week, they're going to keep selling them. There will be still a certain segment of the market that understands the value and what's there and so on. And, yeah, there's a lot of hatred for them, which, by the way, The hatred was more for the way it was handled versus, I think, the vehicle itself. But now that all that's going away, it'll be interesting to see how some people might even now embrace an EV where they wouldn't have prior because of the way they'd been handled.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I agree. The Biden administration really put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths with the way they handled it. They push those vehicles.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, as you know, Gary, you know, anytime you tell somebody they have to do something versus allowing it to happen on its own, it's like, you know, trying to make your kid go to bed at night. I mean, it never works well forcing things.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. All right, John, I'll let you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, great comments, Gary. And for some of you listening, Gary's thought process on how to buy a new car, as we know, all cars depreciate, new and used. New cars, though, especially more than used cars because you're taking that big chunk right off the top within typically the first year that will slow down. after that but yeah anybody that can wait even a year or two and buy the car they want and find the right car and let some of that depreciation already roll off and buy that car used you know more power to you now the reason why they keep selling new cars is because sometimes getting exactly what you want two years later or even a year later doesn't always happen and for some people that's a big deal for some it doesn't make a hill of beans bit of difference what the color of the car is what the interior looks like what options it has some people don't care any way shape or form and if that's you then typically that works out really well for others though steve they want the right color and They want the right interior, and they want these particular options, and, and, and. And it's why new cars will always be sold is because of what I just said. The only way you get that is by buying a new car.
SPEAKER 06 :
It would be interesting to see in a year or six months how many EVs will come back that were just bought just before this deadline. You know, people buying them for the rebate or buying them because, you know, they want to try it now, and then they'll say, oh, I don't like it or I will like it. Good question. So there might be an increase here in six months or a year.
SPEAKER 12 :
I hadn't thought about that as far as the use sides of things go. You could be right. Now, I think, and we've got a minute or so to talk about this before we end the hour. Lines are open, by the way, 303-477-5600. I do think that EV manufacturers, those that are going to stay in it for the long haul, and we know there's going to be some that don't, some that do, but at the end of the day... You you're going to find, I think, some people buying EVs that probably wouldn't have with the rebates because they just didn't want to go down that path. And I think you're going to find some that say, well, gosh, now that the rebates are gone, I'm not really saving as much money as I once was. Why? you know, why would I go ahead and go down this path? And I think you're going to see both sides of that. And manufacturers, what it's going to get at is they're going to have to do something to incentivize the EV sales. That I can almost guarantee you. So they'll do things like zero interest financing or... Special lease deals or we'll give you a certain amount of rebate on our own. You know, you can go down the list. I think they're going to have different incentives knowing that some of these are going away. Because here's the other thing. Even if they stopped building them, they still have inventory. So they've got to get rid of even if they decide to get out of it, which they're not. They won't get completely out of it. But even if they decide to slow some production down, they still have a certain amount of inventory in the pipeline that they've got to figure out a way to get rid of once the tax credits go away. So one way or the other, they're going to do whatever they can to figure that out, Steve.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure. And maybe it's just going to be not making the smaller ones. They're going to make just the fancy, more expensive. You know, they're going to try all sorts of different things.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know what? What you're saying, I cannot disagree with you on at all. I could easily see that happening.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, the whole deal for the plug-in hybrid. It wasn't necessary, but you got a better rebate. Got better rebates. Those, I think, will go away. So that, to me, makes no sense.
SPEAKER 12 :
To me, plug-in hybrids, with the rebates going away, to your point, I think the plug-in hybrids go away, frankly, Steve. There's no reason for them. Yeah, I didn't understand that at all. Because the only reason they, for all of you listening, the only reason they did plug-in hybrids was to get the bigger tax break. Other than that, there's no justification for having a plug-in hybrid. In fact, it just adds more expense to the car that you're going to get out of that hybrid anyway, so... All right, we've got another full hour coming your way. Give us a call. Again, text line open 307-282-22, which it always is. The main line open as well, where you can call in 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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In this episode of Drive Radio, hosts discuss the must-have features every car buyer should consider when shopping for a new vehicle. From heated seats and power passenger options to more sophisticated technology like adaptive cruise control and Bluetooth connectivity. Get ready as John Rush, alongside Steve Horvath, dive into friendly debates about what makes or breaks a car purchase. Listeners also share their thoughts, including personal stories of how certain features, such as power folding mirrors, enhance or limit their automotive experiences. The episode is filled with practical advice, humor, and revelations about how car accessories like heated windshield wiper blades could revolutionize winter driving. Tune in, whether you're a seasoned gearhead or a novice car buyer looking for insightful automotive tips. Advertisements in the episode introduce local businesses offering essential services, from automotive care kits to recommending the latest eyewear innovations. DriveRadio ensures you are not only entertained but well-informed for your next automotive venture.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, and it's Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno's Auto Service over at Bowles and Platt Canyon. Charlie Grimes, our engineer. Larry Unger is, of course, answering phones for us today. Any questions at all when it comes to your vehicle, please give us a call, 303-477-5600. 303-477-5600. And let's see. I've got to get my notes here so we can get to our question of the day. Give me one second here. I apologize. All right. Question of the day. We've had this one before, and it's a recycled one, but it's been a while. So I thought, you know what? It's still a good question of the day for today. When you go to look for a new or used car, What features are a must-have? So in other words, you're looking at a new car, used car, whatever the case, you're getting ready to buy a car, and you look at it and you're running through the list of things that it has and it doesn't have X item, it's a no-go for you. What is that no-go item? For example, I know some folks whereby if the steering wheel isn't heated, it's a no-go. And true story. Now, for me personally, I can't stand having the bloody thing on. So even the cars I have with one, I hardly ever use it because I don't like how hot they get. I don't like the feeling. So I'm one of those that when it comes to seat heaters and steering wheel heaters, I could care less because I don't ever use them. Now, my wife, though, when it comes to the seat heaters especially, and Steve's over here agreeing with me, that's a big deal. That's a big deal. My wife's one of those where that would probably, for her, be a no-go. Now, ventilated, not as big of a deal, but the heated seats, that is a deal-breaker if it doesn't have that. So much so that even my old plow truck, my old old Ford Dodge... When I redid the interior in that, I had the ability to add seat heaters to that, and I did just for her so that when she's out with me, if we're plowing snow or whatever, she's got a nice toasty seat. I never use my side, but I did both sides because that's the way the kit comes. And that is something, by the way, most people don't realize. You can add seat heaters to an existing vehicle if it doesn't have it. So in some cases, if you're thinking, well, I need an upgrade because I want seat heaters, you can add that to what you currently have. You know, you can sometimes do that yourself or you could get an upholstery shop to help you with that. But they're not hard to do. And by the time I was done with my Dodge, you'd think it came from the factory that way. It looks all – I put the buttons in a spot where you would have thought that came that way from the factory, and they work fabulous and all of that. And, no, I don't use them, but she does. So for her – so that's an example with my wife where that's a no-go for her. So that's the question of the day, though. When you're looking to buy a new or used car, what's a feature that you will not go without? Now – some of the givens so take these out because these are givens every car today and has been now for the majority of even the cars that are on the road today out of the fleet we've had power steering power brakes power windows and air conditioning now for how long steve oh 40 years or more
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. You can't buy it without it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, even fleet trucks, guys. We're at a point even on the fleet truck sides of things to where you can't hardly buy a fleet truck without power windows now. Sure. I mean, they are just becoming the standard thing on every vehicle. So don't – what I'm going after is that's a standard. That's not a – Yeah, those aren't really half used. Yeah, because they're coming standard. So give me the other things outside of that that for you are the standard features that you actually have to have. John and Centennial, you're first today.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hey, good morning, guys.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good morning.
SPEAKER 16 :
Two things I want. My new car, my new Canadia doesn't have, and I'm surprised. My other cars have, I want a power passenger seat.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's a good one. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because she likes to sit up high and stuff like that. You can have a power driver's seat, but I want a power passenger seat.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that makes sense. No, you know what? I think my wife, John, would very much agree with you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and the other thing is I like power folding in mirrors. That's just me. In and out of the garage and having the mirrors folded in so you can get around because I have a smaller garage.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know what? It's funny you say that. I hadn't thought about that. That's a good one, though.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's very good. Anyway, that's just my thoughts.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, in fact, I'm writing these down because that one's a good one, and I can't disagree with the mirror one, the mirror one especially. Now, the passenger seat, I'm never in, so for me, not a big deal. But I get it for the other half, John, and my wife, I think, would agree with you on that one. My wife, too, she likes the adjustable part. Yeah, she likes the adjustable part.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sometimes when it gets really cold, mine doesn't quite come on, and I have to get going about 5, 10 miles an hour, and finally, oh, then they'll open back up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
If they get really cold, even though I keep the car in a garage, sometimes maybe the hydraulics, not hydraulics, but the electric motors.
SPEAKER 15 :
Is your garage heated or no? What's that? Is the garage heated or no?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, my garage is not heated.
SPEAKER 15 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, so anyway. One last thing I wish they would fix over the years. I wish they'd come out with a decent windshield wiper blade. Anyway.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know what? I can't argue that one, John. There's a ton of them on the market, and still, at the end of the day, they all have their faults.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I change mine out probably once or twice a year.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's good. Good for you. You're better than most.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, appreciate you very much. No, and yeah, the wiper thing with all the technology we have today, here's the thing I've never understood. And for some of you, maybe, and I know there's kits, but they're crap. I've tried them. They don't work. At least I've tried them years ago. Maybe I haven't tried one recently, but... So windshield wiper blades should be heated, especially in colder states. That ought to be an option on a car. You should be able to get heated windshield wipers. Now, yes, the windshield itself can be heated. Land Rover's done that for years. You can use your defroster to heat it up, but some windshields are actually heated, and it does help to a certain degree. A lot of the companies now will put the defroster-type grid where the wipers are to try to keep that area more thawed out. But why don't you just heat the wiper itself, the blade? Not the blade, but everything surrounding the blade so that the blade doesn't end up all crusted up with – with snow and ice.
SPEAKER 01 :
You have to slap it down.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, so you're always slapping that. Here in Colorado, we get one of those heavier snows where it's cold and you start running down the road. The windshield, of course, drops, and now all the blades get iced up, and sometimes you're trying to pull over in a parking lot or whatever, or the next stoplight, you're slapping that blade, trying to get all the crud off. In today's world, with all of the modern conveniences we have, they can't fix that? No. Interesting. That one I've yet to figure out. We had a heated washer fluid once on one of our cars.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was popular for a while, and I don't know why that one didn't last. Actually, there was a recall on ours, and they disconnected it. So there was a fire thing. It was a GM thing, wasn't it? Yeah, it was on our enclave. That's what I thought. That was a GM thing. And that worked pretty good. Because it would be hot coming out. It would get all that off there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Then it went away. Yeah, it went away. Anyways, that question of the day, what are one of those items that you have to have? It's a must-have. You look at a vehicle and it's like, yeah, it doesn't have that. I'm passing that up. I'm not buying that car. For me personally, this kind of comes down to more the car than the features. But features sell the cars. It does. It does. And so that's where you really have to look hard at, you know, is this something I can get by with or is this something we can live without on that particular vehicle? Anyways, that's the question of the day. Anything else you have for us, by the way, let us know. 303-477-5600, 303-477-5600. This is myself, Steve Horvath. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 06 :
My wife uses it all the time in town and stuff. Really? She loves that thing. Really? She loves that thing. Okay. I don't know. Okay, well. Each his own. I guess, I don't know. I never really thought about using it in town. Yeah, quite a bit. You know, C470. Well, I guess you could.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, that makes sense. Okay, so adaptive cruise control. This is a big one. This one, in fact, this is a big one for me. In fact, I added this to my old plow truck. Bluetooth audio. So not only for listening to your device, your phone, whatever, but talking on the phone wirelessly, hands-free as well. Yeah, I'm with you on that one. That one is, for me, now, is it completely a deal killer for me? That one's sort of like heated seats because there's enough aftermarket products now whereby you could add Bluetooth in and... That one, again, for me, isn't necessarily a deal killer as long as I can with the factory unit. I hate aftermarket radios, by the way. Sorry. I know some of you are going to cringe at me saying that, and I never have liked them, even as a kid. Didn't like them even as a kid. I thought they were all garbage and cheesy, and I was never one of those kids that ran around and spent buku dollars on sound systems and all that. I'd rather go fast and have a sound system. That was me. I'd rather spend money on... You know, heads and a carburetor and headers and exhaust. And I was that kid. I was doing more of that. I could care less about the radio. You could put an AM radio in it and it didn't matter to me one way or the other. I could have cared less about all that stuff. So I never spent big money on sound systems. Still haven't. In fact, I guess maybe because of growing up in the industry. And then working on cars as long as I did, and Steve will probably understand and appreciate this, I hate the aftermarket electronics of almost anything. Alarms, car stereos. And the reason is maybe not even the quality of the stereo, although most of those aren't super high quality. Most of it is the guys that installed it are hack artists. The installations were junk. They were garbage. In fact, if you had an electrical issue on a car, the first thing, at least for me as a technician, the first thing you did was, does it have an aftermarket alarm? Does it have an aftermarket radio? Steve's over here agreeing with me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Aftermarket cruise control.
SPEAKER 15 :
The first two things you would look at, what's been added on, electrically speaking to this car, because that's going to be the first place I actually go and attack. There's a draw on the battery or anything along those. Those are the first things that I am looking at, Most times, not always, but most times, that's where the problem was. Or something related to that problem. They clipped a wire. Again, folks, it's hard to explain this over the air. But I'm a... I'm a very particular person anyways. You guys all know that. And any time I worked on wiring on cars, anybody that knows me that was even around me back when I was doing those things could verify this. I'm a very particular guy, and when I wired anything in, I was very particular about even the type of wire I used, the type of connectors I used, what it looked like when it was done, the whole nine yards. I like things done nice and neat. I hate the old spaghetti mess is what we used to call it and still do in the automotive world. I don't want spaghetti. I want to know where are things going, what circuits go with what. Even if I ever had to put an aftermarket radio in, okay, if you tie all the speakers in, you know, the left speakers, right speakers, front, back, I mean, all those are on separate. They get, you know, they get, you know, taped or wire tied independently. And anyways, I'm very... Very particular on that, and I can't stand when things aren't wired in that way and aren't tucked up nicely. And nothing worse than looking under a dash and seeing a bunch of spaghetti hanging down. It just drives me crazy. And it's gotten better because the factory – the factories – the manufacturers have gotten so much better at the quality of those things that you don't really have to go buy the aftermarket stuff much anymore. But at one time, man, stereo shops and so on, they were doing big business because they were doing stereo heads and alarms and remote starts and all kinds of stuff that you could actually go buy and speakers and so on. And at the end of the day, they made a lot of money doing that. But sometimes it didn't work out well for the owner of the car because they were all hacked up when it was done, Steve. Mm-hmm. And I'm not exaggerating to that. So again, the Bluetooth thing, that can be added. So that's question of the day. What's one of those items that you just have to have, one of the must-haves when buying a new or used vehicle? Text message came in. Have a question for the car show. That's us. I just bought a Ram with the Cummins, and it came with a grille cover. when do i use that i had a pos duramax and i don't think it had a grill cover uh this is a 24 ram and here's the answer for the most part that grill cover and yeah a lot of the cummins will come with them in fact the duramax might have sometimes they're buried away and and or the dealer may not have given it to you but a lot of the diesels will come with a grill cover truthfully you don't need that grill cover ever Unless we're below 10 below, and I'm not exaggerating. You really don't need it. If you're going up north and you're going to go up into the Dakotas or you're going up into the upper Midwest where it's super cold in the winter, sure, go ahead and use your grill cover at that point in time. Here in Colorado, you know, we get maybe one or two weeks a year where we really get that below zero weather. And for the little bit that we get, would I even install a grill cover at that time? No, no, I wouldn't. It's not that big of a deal during that time. Now, if you're out in a place where it's even colder than it is in the metro area and the wind's blowing and that wind chill is going to make things colder, you may want to go ahead and throw that winter cover on. We call it a winter cover. I used to sell those back in the day, by the way. That was a big deal. You'd sell the bug cover for the summer and the winter cover during the winter. Don't use as much of that anymore because they do such a good job of controlling heat on their own. But they do come with that. So, again, for me personally, I don't think you need to use that unless we're in that below zero weather for an extended period of time. If it just got below zero for a day or two, would I go to the hassle of putting that thing on? No, I would not. Do you mind explaining what a grow cover is doing? It's blocking airflow through the radiator, helping the engine stay warmer is all we're doing. It's like the old days when you stuck a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator to try to help things heat up. That's all a grill cover is doing other than it's got a control mechanism where you can zip it and unzip it and allow a little bit of air through and so on. So it's a little more controllable than that piece of cardboard used to be. Okay. Remember those days?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. No.
SPEAKER 15 :
So are you listening? Probably used cardboard back in the day.
SPEAKER 06 :
And they've done such a good job with not having mechanical fans, too, so then they can control that without the thermostat then controlling it a lot more without having to control the airflow.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. And if you heard me, great. I'm going to text you back either way. So thank you for that text message, by the way. I appreciate that. And this is an out-of-state area code, so they may not be listening and they may not have actually – heard that and a lot of you listening to me are are agreeing with me on all of the remote start aftermarket radio nonsense now here's here's a couple more that came in must have two keys yeah thank you in fact that's a that's a great tip for those of you that are buying a used car or a new car doesn't matter get both keys the new car is going to come with two keys period now by the way this is something else to think about in your deal when you're making the deal on the new car If you're somebody that loses keys or you have someone in your family that does, you know what? As a part of your deal in buying that car, ask for a third. It's much easier to get all of that done before the car is delivered to you than it is afterwards. They've got everything there. The fob, they can cut the key, they can get everything done for you right there at the dealership far cheaper and easier at that time than you'll ever do in the aftermarket, unless you buy an aftermarket fob and all of that. But if you really want it done correctly and you're somebody that struggles with having, you know, finding keys, because some people do, you know, keys that gets legs or whatever the case may be, if that's you and you want that third key, Go ahead and make that deal at the time you're buying the car. Hey, you know what? I'm going to buy this car, but I want three keys, not two. Sales guy at that point has to go figure out how he's going to make all that or how she's going to make all that happen. And if that's something you want as a part of the deal, make it a part of the deal.
SPEAKER 06 :
But in today's technology, put an air tag on it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and then you don't lose it. Yeah. And by the way, they make key chain holders and things along those lines that even have the fob. I have them on my luggage. Oh. So I put air tags on my luggage doing it the exact same way that Steve's talking about. And literally, you could clip that onto your key ring, and now you're not losing your keys either. So, yeah, they're the slickest thing ever, by the way. Mm-hmm. And knock on wood, ever since tracking my luggage, I haven't lost any. Mm-hmm. It's amazing how that works. Yeah, and that's a whole other conversation, by the way, on the AirTag and what all you can put an AirTag on. List is endless, by the way. Anything that you want to keep track of, you can AirTag.
SPEAKER 17 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 15 :
it's that simple so if you don't know what that is go look it up they make air tags for both apple and android depending upon what device you're on they work exactly the same way but tagging things and keeping track of them that way you absolutely can so yeah thank you so the other one is blind spot indicators sirius xm that's a good one too automatic exterior lighting And then, of course, the power seats we've talked about already. And the rear camera. Now, I will say on most new cars now, the cameras are pretty standard. In fact, I think it's law now. Yeah, I believe that's law. I can't remember what year that actually went in, but it's law. But used cars, no. If that's a big thing for you on a used car, you may want to check to see if it's got the camera.
SPEAKER 06 :
How many lives were saved by the rear camera?
SPEAKER 15 :
Back up. Probably a lot because people generally, kids especially, get run over from folks backing out of the driveway, which, again, if you use my model and you back in to the garage, that doesn't happen, but that's hard to get a lot of people to do. So Bob and Centennial, you're next.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, thanks for taking my call. I have a question about car stereo. Something happened. I can't get AM on my stereo. The button you press, it's only... stays on FM and won't go to AM. So I recently had a problem with my, I let the lights on for two hours while I was in a meeting and drained the battery, and it was dead. I had to have it be jump-started. And then I got home, I charged the battery overnight. But now it won't display the AM. Do you happen to know anything about that or a place I could go to?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think there could be a fuse on the back of that radio, depending on the car, because there are some cars where there's actually a fuse that's in the back. You pull the radio out, and it could have blown for just that part of it. That doesn't seem to make sense to me. And it's an aftermarket radio or a factory radio?
SPEAKER 04 :
Aftermarket.
SPEAKER 15 :
JVC. Steve could be right. Yeah, that one's different than what you'll even find on the OEM radio. So, yeah, Steve could be right on the money on that one. Something there.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's kind of where I would start, at least, you know, checking the basics always anyway.
SPEAKER 04 :
Any auto stereo place you can recommend, I could just take it in and have them check it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Steve, that's your department. I don't know anymore. I don't keep track of that side of it anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
We work a little bit with car toys on West Bowles, but it's a little hit and miss, to be honest with you. They're nice enough, but I'm not sure they're experienced enough. And it depends on who they have hired at the moment. That's a good point.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, well, I guess I could try them or call them or see if they could help.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm sure they'll try to help you. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, well, thanks to any other callers. If I have any inexperience, I want to call on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, if any of you know any more on the aftermarket radio thing and have an idea, by all means, yeah, let us know, Bob, and we'll see if anybody calls in with something. Okay, thanks a lot. Thanks, Bob. Appreciate it very much. And I've had three text messages agreeing with me on the aftermarket radio end of things and so on. And I'm sorry. I'm not trying to pick on them, but they're just junk. They are not the same quality as what you're getting out of the OEM. I don't care what they tell you. They're just not. In fact, pick one up versus the other. And the weight alone will be sizably different from one to the other, and I'm not exaggerating. All right, we'll be right back. Bruno, hang tight. We've got a couple lines open, 303-477-5600.
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Really sad text message came in that one of my brother's friends had his little six-year-old girl ran over this summer. Somebody backing out of the garage. Guys. Again, and somebody said, well, I must be a volunteer fire department guy because I back in. No, that's from growing up in the dealership world, truthfully, because in a dealership, You know, when you're going to sell cars and so on, no one wants to look at the back end of a car to buy it. They're always looking at the front end. So all cars on a dealership lot are backed in the spaces because when people are looking at cars, they want to see the front end of the car, not the back end of the car. I thought of some Rockford files. Remember Rockford files?
SPEAKER 06 :
He always backed in.
SPEAKER 15 :
Since I was a kid learning to drive when I was literally 11, 12 years of age, I learned how to back in cars at a very early age, and I've really never stopped since. Something else I wanted to talk about, too, and I did this this past week. Well, let me talk to Bruno first, but I don't want to delay this. I can talk about that any time. Bruno, let me get you in first. Go ahead, Bruno. You're next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much. I listen to you guys religiously every Saturday. Thank you, sir. You guys are the greatest. I mean it. Here I'm looking at a 1992 fire truck with a 7.3 diesel in it. It's an F-350 with 122,000 miles on it. The only thing wrong with it is the pulley tensioner makes noise, but it goes away at 1,500 RPMs. And also, it's a Montana title. It's clear and free. However, the guy who is selling it, his name is not on it. It's just a corporation from an auction. He bought it four years ago.
SPEAKER 15 :
So they're jumping title. That's what they call that. We're jumping title, meaning the original seller went ahead and signed off on everything. He owned it. He never ran the title through, and he's reselling it, and he's just going to hand you the title. Is that what you're telling me? Yes, sir. Technically, that's illegal, although no one will ever know the difference, and you can still run that title through and be okay. But, yeah, that's called jumping title, and that's illegal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I see. On his part.
SPEAKER 15 :
You won't have any trouble, Bruno, but technically what he's doing is illegal. He's not supposed to do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I see. Okay. I priced out the pulley tensioner. Unfortunately, I only got shopping around the parts stores. Even Napa only offers them in plastic version. That's how it looks Chinese to me.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, there's a lot of plastic tensioners, even from the factory. That's not a huge issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's not a huge issue. How much would you pay for that truck, 90, 92? Can I even have a car tax on that, on a 92?
SPEAKER 15 :
So it's a 92, and you say fire truck. Does it have a different box on the back? Is it still a regular pickup truck?
SPEAKER 05 :
What is it? It's got a Phoenix utility body on the back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it's got even the bullhorn still working.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the lights and everything.
SPEAKER 15 :
And how many miles again? 122,000. 122,000. Is it really good shape, clean, all of that interior good? Is it a single cab, crew cab? What is it, Bruno?
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a crew cab, you know, still built by the brother of Henry Kissinger, not by Ford yet. It's a custom build before they became Ford built, you know.
SPEAKER 15 :
What year was it again, Bruno? 1992. It's a 92, so it's an older one. Those are actually going up in value because of the vintage year that it is. What would I pay? Given it's a fire truck, it's probably not adding any value. You're still better off with that having an actual pickup box on it, although if it's really clean and good and all of that's in great shape, drivetrain and so on, truck's worth a minimum of $10,000. Wow. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. So you think I should be able to get Wyoming title on that thing?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, if you take that Montana, you know, I'm guessing Wyoming's like Colorado. You probably need a VIN verification and some of those things to make sure things are solid that way. But as long as you do all of that, yeah, you should have no issues. Given it came out of a corporation name that's going to you, you shouldn't have any issues. Now, did the last owner put anything else on the title, fill in the customer name or anything like that, or is all of that still blank?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's still blank.
SPEAKER 15 :
Then you're fine. You'll be okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, great. Thank you so much. You're very welcome, Brew.
SPEAKER 15 :
Nope, nope, good question, by the way. Thank you for that. Jerry in Arvada, you're next.
SPEAKER 17 :
John, I went to Napa and bought a bottle of BG Supercharger 2.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it said to peel the label to see how you mix it, and it peeled the label come apart, so I didn't even know how many ounces per gallon. Do you know that off the top of your head?
SPEAKER 15 :
Steve, let's see if we can look that up really quick.
SPEAKER 17 :
Six-ounce bottle, so...
SPEAKER 15 :
Typically, the six-ounce bottle is about a 20-gallon application, so we'll have to do a little bit of math on this to see exactly how that comes out. 20 gallons, huh? That's about what I've used. I mean, I usually treat about 20 gallons with one bottle is what I do.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I guess that's close enough.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm looking to see if there's anything on their website that would tell us what the actual ratings are. So you've got the six-ounce bottle. Let me see if it will say here. I'm sorry for this. I'm trying to read and talk at the same time. I'm texting my BG rep.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm curious if he'll answer me.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so six ounces. I've got it right here. Six ounces treats 15 gallons, so do the math accordingly.
SPEAKER 17 :
Six ounces treats 15 gallons.
SPEAKER 15 :
Six ounces, 15 gallons.
SPEAKER 17 :
15 gallons, so that's about three-quarters of an ounce per gallon.
SPEAKER 15 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, you'd be safe with even an ounce a gallon, and you wouldn't have any issues, Jerry. If you went a little over, not going to bother anything.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, probably have to use a shot glass to measure, so it's going to be nice.
SPEAKER 15 :
There you go. There you go. One for me, one for the car.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's right. One for me, one for the car.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you, sir. You're very welcome, Jerry. Appreciate it. Great question, by the way. So I wanted to mention this because this is something I did this past week and thought I'd go ahead and throw it out there because it was a very simple, easy install with the new laws that we now have in Colorado when it comes to proper storage of a firearm. It would behoove some of you that do that to put some sort of a lockable safe in your car or truck. Now, most of the pickup trucks that are out there, there are aftermarket safe companies. Some of the factories, GM, for example, you can even buy as an option a console safe. But you can pretty much buy a console safe for most trucks now. And I've got a GM unit, as you guys all know. And I bought one of the aftermarket safes. And I bought the one with the thumb, you know, the fingerprint opener because it's faster than it is trying to use a key or anything along those lines. And not that much more money. It's like $20 more to do the fingerprint opening versus a regular standard combo lock. and i will tell you um kudos to the company that built this if you want to know which company it was you can call in or ask and i'll give you that information but kudos to the company that did this fit and finish was great programming it was probably the hardest i'm not joking it took me longer to program my fingerprints in than it did to install it it fits perfectly It literally goes in the very bottom half of the console, meaning that, you know, you still want to have access to your door and stuff, but you've still got room up above where, let's say you wanted to put a couple of, you know, pair of gloves or something along those lines, you know, only takes you a second to remove the gloves and put those out of the way. And now you've got access to the safe. And super easy to install. You're now going to be within the letter of the law in Colorado if you've got a firearm and you need to store it. So, you know, some of us carry. I do. And there's places, though, where you can't carry in federal buildings and schools and things like that. So you're going to want to take that firearm out and put it someplace. And by law now in Colorado, it's supposed to be locked. in a secure place inside of your car. So to be to the letter of the law and frankly, just to make sure nobody gets in and steals anything anyways, it's probably not a bad idea, probably something you should have regardless. These console safes work perfect. And I will tell you again, easy to install. piece of cake the brand that i bought fit like a glove i'm not joking they've got this thing dialed into where it fits in that console perfectly had to make zero adjustments to put it in it slipped right in bolted in goes to the floor they give you longer bolts because you're taking two bolts out of the console adding two new bolts in and it literally fit like a glove and for some of you you're thinking well you know i don't carry a gun but it'd be nice just to have that extra you know maybe you carry a little bit of cash with you maybe you're somebody that goes to the bank for your business or whatever the case may be. You may want to go ahead and have something like that just to put those things in because you know even if somebody gets into the car, they're not getting into the safe. So any kind of valuables, things along those lines. Some of you guys are in businesses where you're carrying some different valuables and things like that around with you. You may want one of them for that and This is the first time I've ever bought one, used one. But I'm here to tell you, I was impressed with how well it worked. I'm not joking you. And my wife will tell you this. It literally took me longer to program it. which I did on the kitchen counter, took me longer to program it than it did to install it. Literally, the installation was under five minutes. It took me 10 minutes to program it. So all in all, it took me 15 minutes to put the thing in, and off you go. So just a fair note on that. Works extremely well. And the other thing, too, that I want to mention that Steve and I were looking at during the last break is for some of you where you might have a car you're looking at, Back to some of our must haves. There is a lot of companies, eBay and other places, whereby they take a factory head unit that doesn't have Bluetooth and they add it. So, you know, I did this on my old 2004 Ram truck. I think I told you guys earlier. So that's what I'm talking about. You can actually take a factory head unit. and have Bluetooth added, buy it that way, put it in, and everything is factory at that point. So just a side note, if that's something you're interested in doing, we can give you information on that as well. All right, we'll be right back. Myself, Steve Horvath, Geno's Auto Service, Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 15 :
And we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Jerry, good morning.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning. What you were just mentioning about the lockable console vault, I can't remember the name of the bill, but the law about an unattended vehicle, leaving your gun in a parked vehicle. So when I researched that, What I found was that if you have one of the vaults like you were discussing, or even just a lockable glove box or a center console, that's fine for a handgun, but for a long gun, of course, that won't work. And if you lock your long gun in a hard case carrier, a hard-sided case, then okay, that meets the standards. But I think maybe a lot of people may not realize that if you leave a long gun in a soft case, like a padded soft case, that not only does that have to be locked, but then you also have to lock the action of the gun.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ah, good to know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I believe their idea there was that it would be so easy to cut open a soft case that then they want the gun to be disabled.
SPEAKER 15 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I just wanted to throw that out there.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know what? I'm glad you said that. And there are, just for some of you listening, for some of you that have trucks, there are back seat safes made where, you know, lockable trunks, I guess you could say, not necessarily a safe, Jerry, but lockable under seat storage where in a lot of the pickup trucks the seats fold up. You can then take all that underneath area, and they do make steel, quote, unquote, seats. whereby if you did have a long gun or something like that, Jerry, you could slip that in there, and I'm guessing that would meet the requirements, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah, you're right. Especially when you're going hunting and that kind of thing. You want it locked away.
SPEAKER 15 :
Furthermore, Jerry, personally speaking, I mean, law or not, probably not a bad idea with all of the bad actors we have out running around. The last thing you want to do is lose, you know, one of your prized possessions, which in a lot of cases is your firearm. I mean, the last thing you want to do is lose that or have somebody steal it. So putting it inside something lockable in the car, probably not a bad idea anyways.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, my motto is make it hard for the thieves. Exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. And you really don't want anybody to, you'd hate for somebody to use that, because if they're stealing it, they're not going to be using it for good purposes. I mean, you don't want to see something bad happen with that gun.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I somewhat disagreed with it when they rolled that out, because to me it kind of falls in the category of blame the victim.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, I agree. I agree with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Practically speaking, you're right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and I'm one of those where I don't necessarily need a law to have people do that. It's more of a reminder now that I guess we should. And again, at the end of the day, I don't want to lose the item. And these safes too, just as I was mentioning a minute ago, Jerry, there's a lot of people out there that do other things besides even carry guns around in their car. There's guys that go and make deposits for their businesses. Maybe they have a lot of cash on a particular day. All sorts of things along those lines. Honestly, to have something lockable that just keeps those honest people honest, not a bad idea.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure, sure. Even if it just slows down a few. Exactly.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm telling you what, this safe that I put in my truck, they would slow down. They'd be working at this thing for longer than they'd want to to get into it, Jerry. I can tell you that just from the way it's built. They're not getting into it, not anytime soon.
SPEAKER 1 :
All right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that sounds good.
SPEAKER 15 :
They're going to be spending a lot more than four or five minutes trying to get into it. And as you know, that's too long for somebody to be rummaging around in the car. So there is no way they're getting in and out of that thing any faster.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, sounds like a good setup.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, I guess if they had a cut-off wheel and some things along those lines and they knew it was in there and they really wanted in badly enough, but even then, I mean, they're still going to spend a little bit of time working through everything to get through it. And as you know, Jerry, they're going to the next easy target. They're not going to spend time doing that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, right. I just wanted to throw that out there.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, great reminder. I appreciate you saying that, by the way. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you. You're very welcome. Dan and Lakewood, you're next.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was just wondering what you think about the Duramax 10-speed trannies.
SPEAKER 15 :
As far as?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, are they having a lot of trouble with them? I've heard of a lot of people having trouble with those.
SPEAKER 15 :
It depends. Out of the entire fleet that we have, where I've probably got 10 of those trucks, I've had one issue.
SPEAKER 03 :
And those are 10-speeds?
SPEAKER 15 :
10-speeds.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. What year are those trucks?
SPEAKER 15 :
Those started in 2020.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really? Oh, okay. Well, I was just wondering about that. That's all.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, would I not buy one because of the issues? No, because, Dan, they all – you know, you can talk about Ford. You can talk about Ram. You know, they've all got issues. So there's no perfect unit made right now. You know, all of them have different idiosyncrasies and things that you can run into. You know, would it keep me from buying one? No, I do own them. And, again, out of the 10 or so that we own – it might even be over 10 now – Out of the 10 or so that we own, I've had one issue, and I believe that truck is supposed to – I think we've already got it back. It took a little while to get that truck fixed. As you know, it's a valve body issue they've had with those. That's the biggest thing that the GM side has had. And, you know, is it on every single truck? Sort of like the 6.2 recall where the engine failures are happening on the 6.2. You know, the percentage of failure on that is about 5%, Dan.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
So would it keep me from buying one? No, it would not.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, buddy, thanks.
SPEAKER 15 :
You betcha, Dan. Good call, by the way. I appreciate that. And some of you, I know, you've got some of your own experiences. I've had some of you, you know, text me and let me know that, you know, you wouldn't buy another Duramax because of that. And I had issues with RAM for the longest time because, not because of the truck, but because of the way the factory was handling some of the warranty sides of it. Now, I do think this, this is just a side note on RAM. I think that was a leadership issue that, believe me, right now they are doing their best to fix. I don't think that's as big of an issue right now as it was, say, a couple of years ago. But they had really – once Marcioni passed away, that thing went into a spiral, downhill spiral. And, frankly, they were not handling the customer like they should. And there's articles about this. You can go read. There's an article here of late in Apple News talking about the demise of – of Stellantis is really what it's talking about and what happened inside of their leadership, the culture. It was all about making money. They were doing everything they possibly could to reduce costs, including laying off people, stopping some of the R&D on certain things, the warranty sides of things that I'm mentioning. They did whatever they could to boost profits to make the stock look good, but the end was coming. and it did and it's there now and they lost billions once everything finally washed out there's new leadership now the major stockholders that are involved in that wanted changes of course because they could see where things were headed they've got good leadership in place right now I do believe that they'll get back on the right track and they'll get some things handled correctly moving forward. But yeah, I'll be the first to tell you that we didn't buy some RAM products for quite some time, but GM instead, because frankly, and it wasn't even the dealer's fault, but the factory would not honor some of the warranty issues they were having in regards to the exhaust systems on the emissions, some of the fuel system issues, the injector pump issues, and so on. And some of you that own some of those know exactly what I'm talking about. And, yeah, that was a problem on the leadership end of things. Is it 100% fixed? No. Hard to say. Time will tell. But I will tell you from all the things that I've read and learned that they are doing their very best to change that culture around when it comes to leadership end of things because they had a culture of let's only make money. at the cost of the rest of the business, and it did cost them dearly in the rest of the business. Their whole switch away from the V8, which, of course, now is back, as you guys all know, and lots of things that they did along those lines really killed the brands, plural, not just a single brand, but really killed the brands. Jeep, for example, they got to the point where they were raising prices, not adding any features or benefits to the vehicle, and they were just raising prices, raising prices, raising prices, to the point where People had, you know, there's competition. You can go buy a Ford Bronco. You can go buy something else that is equivalent, if you would. And they did. And their sales dropped. And now they're figuring out how do we make some of these adjustments. And it got to the point where Jeep Wranglers got so expensive nobody wanted to buy one anymore. That was a culture problem at Stellantis because all they were worried about was making money and not taking care of the customer at the end of the day. And that's what happens at times with some companies. Stellantis being one of them, they got fat and happy and they made a lot of money during COVID. And a lot of the companies did because of the supply chain issues and what they could do with pricing and so on. But they didn't fulfill the other end of it, which was the customer service side. And in turn, that came back to bite them in a big way. And when it was all said and done, yeah, it cost them billions and billions of dollars. And they're in the process now of rebuilding a lot of that, trying to get some of that customer loyalty back, if you would. People like me that for the longest time bought Ram trucks today. do what we needed in our fleet and so on. And we stopped for a while because of that. So we've got a couple that we're getting ready to buy. We'll see what it's like. We're going to give it another run and see what it's like with some of these changes they're making, and we'll report back on how that works. But, all right, that's it for Hour 1. We've got Hour 2 coming up. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, last hour of Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for calling in. We appreciate it. Jeff in Golden, you're next. Go ahead, Jeff.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hello, how's it going? Good, Jeff. All right, well, we're on the radio. I'm here in Golden at the Big O Tire. I was just at the O'Reilly. We're trying to find wheel stud.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's for the little race car. I'm trying to go 2 1⁄2 inch long. Or three, I may have just found what I'm looking for on Speedway Motors. I may have found them, but where would you find extra long wheel studs? I mean, there's just all these auto parts stores. That's like the worst rack in the world. You get to these wheel suds, and they bring you to the back, and they're like, oh, look at this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, good luck.
SPEAKER 08 :
We haven't organized this for 10 years.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, that's, and as you know, that gets pretty specific on size, length, and so on. You know, you've got to go aftermarket. Somebody that's in the racing end of things, like where you're at, you're going to have to do something along those lines to get longer ones. But sell the rims and stuff altogether. Correct. Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, me and Trevor at the counter, very helpful guy here at the Big O. We were just saying the same thing. That was basically what he said, and we were like, we need to start. He was saying his father-in-law is a part of a speed shop. What was the speed shop? Hamilton Motorsports, something like that. And I think Speedway Motors might have them right now when I'm looking. I'm just now looking.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, I think that's what you're going to end up having to do because otherwise you're not going to find long enough ones.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's just for the race car. The reason I'm doing it is because we went to Bristol to run, and the tech right away, they called me on that. They were like, your wheel studs are way too short, and the way these lug nuts on them kind of looks like the thing's not all the way on. They're sunken way down in there, and they wanted to see some threads out there. But that's a lot easier said than done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, yep. Especially with all the torque you're putting on that, you want to have some thread straight through. You want it safe. Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
So any other guys other than where we're going? I think, yeah, I think we're kind of solving our own problem. But it was kind of fun. I told him, I was like, well, I can call the guy on the radio right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, you've got to go to a performance shop. I mean, there's only, and in town now, that's the other issue you've got here in town, is how many speed shops are in Denver now? Not that many.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not that many, exactly. I'm thinking not too many, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm looking. There's not, I mean, even if you Google it, there's just not that many around.
SPEAKER 08 :
Larry Motorsports, and then he just moved. I'm not sure where he is now, but Larry is one of our guys.
SPEAKER 05 :
On track. I know the guys at On Track, only they're not open today, so that would be another one you could try would be On Track.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that would be the only two that I can think of.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's the only ones I know of.
SPEAKER 08 :
Larry and On Track, yeah. Yeah. Well, cool. Beautiful day out here, guys.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Well, enjoy, Jeff. Have fun, man. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Dennis, you're next. Go ahead, Dennis.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, John. I got some comments on EVs. Sure. It's not just that the government mandated them. There are several other factors in place. And to prove that, Tesla sales were down for the last eight months in a row. They lost 3% of their value the other day. And part of that is their product. Part of that is their founder. You know, people are tired.
SPEAKER 05 :
People don't like him. Yep, you're right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, absolutely. But not to mention that EVs are small and ugly. People have range anxiety.
SPEAKER 05 :
Range anxiety is a big factor. Now, the small and ugly, not so much anymore. There's so many makes and models now that some of what – People may not even know they're an EV. Typically, you can tell by not having a regular grille is usually the way. But even that's not a telltale sign anymore, Dennis. Some of the EVs they put with a regular-type grille in it where it really looks very similar to all of their other counterparts. So they're not as small and, quote-unquote, as ugly as they used to be because you can buy full-size vehicles now that are a complete EV that, by the way, have very long range, 350-mile-plus EVs. The other problem with Tesla, really quick going back to them, is that I feel is an issue for them is they all look the same. Yeah, they've done some new refreshing of a couple of models here of late, but even they don't have much of a refresh. I mean, bottom line, you can take a Tesla that's 10 years old and a brand new one, and they look exactly the same. There's no difference. Right, and battery anxiety, battery replacement anxiety... Yeah, and by the way, that's a big factor that I think people have, that no offense is no different than... They don't have engine replacement anxiety. Why do they have battery replacement anxiety? There's really no difference from one to the other as far as longevity goes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Although I think it would be much easier to get rid of a...
SPEAKER 05 :
ice replacement engine rather than that battery well but like an engine the counterpart is just like an engine most of those ev batteries are fixable and you can put them right back in so there's even a guy down in arizona that specifically does tesla rebuilds and there's a lot of the other battery packs that you're going to find exactly the same way so you're going to end up in the not too distant future exactly the same as an engine versus a battery pack you can still fix them both
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. And another factor I think comes into play is the fire situation. You know, whether you're out on the road or... your garage catches on fire and gets into the house while you're asleep, you know, there's a lot of EV fires.
SPEAKER 05 :
There is, although I think the biggest, me personally, Dennis, yes, you're right, and I talk about this a lot, the pushing of them on society is one of the downfalls of them. But I'll just say it straight up. Here's the other problem. Because of the pushing... they didn't do proper training and education of what the advantages and disadvantages of an EV are. They just assumed everybody needs to own one, here you go, here's a credit, go buy one. Well, there was no education in it, Dennis, like I've done for myself over the past five years. And because of that lack of education, you get what you're talking about. Ignorance. Yep, you get ignorance. And I hate to say this, there's a lot of ignorance around EVs. For and against.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, in just a public service announcement, don't leave your e-bikes plugged in.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, that's another one. Yeah, do not. Absolutely, Dennis. E-bikes or even some little e-scooters and stuff, don't leave any of those plugged in. Really?
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, that's all I got.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, good one, Dennis. I appreciate it. And Dennis brings up some great points. And some of what Dennis is talking about, I go back to the lack of education, both sides. Ignorance, by the way, on both sides, because... Neither knows full well what EVs do until you really own one like I have. And I mean that in the most sincere ways. And by the way, I think even some folks that own them don't fully understand them even like I do because they're not car people, so they don't want to. They just figure I plug it in and go. That's all they really care about at the end of the day. But owning them... changes your complete perspective on them because they're they're not what most people think and i'm a testament to that and i've owned one since 2020 now so so five years and i can pretty much tell you the ins and outs of them and a lot of and i can dispel by the way a lot of the misconceptions that there are around them and there is a lot of misconceptions around them because there's a lot of ignorance because until you own one you don't know
SPEAKER 06 :
I read an article this week in one of the trade magazines that the insurance payments for Lexus in some states are double what a normal.
SPEAKER 05 :
They can be. That's one of the first things I tell people, too, when you're looking to get an EV, double-check your insurance rates because in some cases, yes. Your insurance could be more than what your counter. Now, typically, your insurance is going to be higher anyways because you're buying a new car versus an old car. But you need to do a comparison one for the other. So I'm going to I'm thinking about buying this EV versus this new car and look and see what the rates are. And that'll tell you how much more the EV actually is.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the more expensive the EV, the wider the gap.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
As it got down to a lower and more expensive, they were closer in terms of insurance. That's absolutely right. So I thought that was kind of interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's absolutely right. You are correct in that. No, you're exactly right. Bob, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, you know. You know about Baidu, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
About what?
SPEAKER 11 :
Baidu.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Chinese.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Chinese. Oh, they're crushing Teslas, well, in China and also in Europe. And here's why.
SPEAKER 05 :
Actually, Tesla's still outselling them in China.
SPEAKER 11 :
Tesla is?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I just read that Friday.
SPEAKER 11 :
Really?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's odd.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, not really. But, you know, I mean – I mean, and the reason I say not really is – and I'm not trying to ditz anybody, but I can just tell you right now that I would be surprised if the quality of one versus the other is exactly the same. I don't know. I've never been in a BYD because they're not imported into America, so I've never sat inside of one. I saw some reviews and different things on them, but I don't know. I don't know what their quality is like.
SPEAKER 11 :
Are they trying to move into the Mexican market?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. And Mexico is trying to tariff them. Not trying. Mexico is tariffing them much like we are because Mexico doesn't want them. And Mexico doesn't want them because they feel like there's enough already vehicles produced in Mexico. They want to keep that homegrown there. They don't want them coming into Mexico. So Mexico is doing the same thing we are.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, so I listened to you earlier this week, and it was actually a very brilliant holdup on EVs, and you explained that so clearly. I almost thought maybe I'd get one. You know, I mean, for the purpose, you know,
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and number one, Bob, thank you for saying that. We're going to replay, for all of you listening that didn't hear that because that was on my daily show, we're going to be replaying that one here at some point in the future. Charlie's working on, we're going to get a full hour of that put together because it ended up being about 45 minutes, Bob. Oh, yeah. I'll tag a few things front and rear to get an hour out of that, and we'll make that an hour at some point where everybody can hear that. And for everybody listening, what spawned that is I just had a random caller that called in and started asking questions about – And I felt like, OK, well, now's as good a time to answer those as any. And literally, I just took each question as it came. And none of that was staged. All of that was really just off the cuff, Bob. And I thought the conversation went really well. And I was trying to be as well. You know me. I'm going to be honest one way or the other anyways. And for like you just said, for most people. And I said this on Tuesday. For the majority of people, they worry about going on a road trip, going coast to coast in their EV, yet they don't anyways. So why is that a worry?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. You explained that so clearly. And then you explained, you know, I mean, if you live in an apartment or a complex, you know, like... You have to have, you know, a home where you can put in a charging system and stuff like that. Because nobody's going to go out every morning and stand in front of a charger.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and as I said, even on Tuesday, and there's a Tesla charge station just down here below us here at the station, Bob, and I will tell you that I'm convinced that the majority of people that actually use that charge station, A, are Teslas because you can't use it unless you're, Tesla owner or have the adapter because Tesla uses a different plug than what all of the other cars use but typically you're going to see Tesla's there and I think Bob those are people like you're talking about whereby they don't live anywhere where they can charge so they go find a charge station and they wait and plug in and they are not I repeat this they are not your typical car driver and owner oh no I mean for instance like I have three cars and they're all different classes of cars
SPEAKER 11 :
and I have garage space for all three. I could probably, and I'll tell you what I own. I own a 2020 Cadillac XT. I own a 24 Kia Carnival. And then my everyday driver is a 22 Chevy Trax. And I could probably replace the track with an EV. You could.
SPEAKER 05 :
You could, easily.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm never going to take that on a road trip, never.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, and for those listening, I always say this, don't knock it until you try it. Have you ever driven one, Bob? No, I have not. You need to go drive an EV, because you especially, knowing you like I do, and we talk a lot even off-air in that, and for the performance sides of things, go drive one of the, you know, more quote-unquote hot EVs, and that's all you've got to go do. Go drive one.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I mean, you know that I was an electrical engineer for AT&T all these years, and I know about motors. Motors have maximum... torque at zero RPM.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I understand all that.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, you know, in your case, because you know some of the same people I do, go drive an Equinox EV. Go get an all-wheel drive Equinox EV and drive it, test drive one.
SPEAKER 11 :
She has an Equinox gas, and she loves it. And your wife has an Equinox EV, and she loves it.
SPEAKER 05 :
She does.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I'm going to tell you, my ex-wife doesn't drive long trips.
SPEAKER 05 :
She can drive an EV all day long and be fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
But she doesn't want to wear out her Equinox. That's why we've been bouncing this thing. I want this old Vibe GT because she had one when it was new, and she loves them. It's just an extra car to go get groceries. But anyway, nevertheless, let's talk about one of the efficiencies of the EVs was Remember when gas hit, even in Colorado, almost $5 a gallon, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, now, here's what's going on. Gasoline, I could pay like $2.50 a gallon at Costco when I fill up. So gas prices are going down, but the problem is electricity prices are going up. So a lot of that advantage... But I understand, you know, like you never have to get an oil change. You know, your brakes are going to last forever because of the, you know, the regeneration and stuff like that. And I listened to your, was it Tuesday?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, Tuesday.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. You were brilliant. Well, thank you. I mean, you took both sides, you know, and I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I thought about that, and I thought, well, you know, I have an extra car. I would never have an EV as a primary car and no others, but for an extra car, good deal. And those old Nissan Leafs were junk.
SPEAKER 05 :
New ones are much better, but the old ones were not very good.
SPEAKER 11 :
What do with those? They bought them, and then they give them off to their teenage kids, go back and forth to school, and they're fine. I mean, the range is down to 70 miles on a used one. Going back and forth to school. And, you know, so I guess there's, I don't know what's going to happen. When is it, September 30th?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Tuesday.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I don't know that people really bought them for the tax advantage. I mean, come on. Cars are expensive.
SPEAKER 05 :
They are. They are. You're right about that. I think some did, though. I think, Bob, there were some people that literally looked at that tax credit and said, wow, that's a good deal. I'll buy it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I don't know. I've always been a cash buyer, so I don't give a damn about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right. Bob, I've got to run to break. Appreciate you very much, though. Thank you very much. I appreciate the kind words as well. Wayne, Bill, you guys hang tight. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Oh, wait a minute. We don't have Charlie. Charlie went away. Well, I have to take a break, but let me go ahead and take a call instead. Let's do this. Wayne and Yurei, you're next.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, John, I've got a 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe with approximately 48,000 miles on it. And last year in November, I had my right rear wheel sensor go. Had to have that replaced. And now, just within the last two weeks... I've had the left rear wheel sensor go. Is that an issue? There's no recall from Honda.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is that an issue that I should... Yeah, you should do them all at the same time. They're just a little battery that's inside those little sensors, and they wear out over time. Being a 2018, that's about due. Well, this is a $500 bill.
SPEAKER 12 :
The wheel sensor itself that goes inside the tire? Or is there another sensor I'm... They have to do the whole wheel hub.
SPEAKER 06 :
The wheel hub. Are you talking maybe an ABS sensor?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay. ABS. That makes more sense. I'm sorry. I was thinking like the tire monitor. No, yeah, okay, ABS, yes, yes, yes. Okay. No, but we do tend to do a lot more of these wheel bearings, basically, wheel sensors. It does seem to be a thing.
SPEAKER 12 :
So it's not uncommon for two of them to go out within 48,000 miles?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, not uncommon. I did my truck, I have a GM Chevy, and I did it at like 40,000, 45,000 right in there.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it all depends on what you hit, too. I mean, if you hit a good pothole just the right angle, maybe you might score one of the bearings in there or something like that. Or you get a little water in there. They're supposed to be sealed, but I'm not sure that that's always perfect ceiling in there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, well, the car is housed in Florida, except I take it out to Colorado twice a year. And for some reason, it does not like coming to Colorado. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 05 :
But anyway. He likes Florida. He likes that warm weather. Well, yeah. I think we all do. I can't blame him. I think we all like that. Can't blame him, Wayne.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Thanks a lot.
SPEAKER 05 :
You betcha, Wayne. No, appreciate you very much. Okay. Let's take a break. Bill, we'll come right back to you. A couple lines open. 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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Bill and Longmont, you are next. Go ahead. Hello. Good morning. Good morning, Bill. Or good afternoon now, I guess.
SPEAKER 07 :
I guess it is afternoon. Uh, I have a 96 Ford F two 50, uh, real low mileage. It's got a, uh, four 60 engine. And I'm not positive if that has flat tap at lifters or roller lifters.
SPEAKER 05 :
That should be flat tap it in a 96. I believe don't quote me, but I believe it does.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I don't think they went rolling until later. I can double check, keep talking and I'll do some looking.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, that was kind of the end of the line for the four 60 around them. But, uh, I was going to change the oil on it, and I wanted to put in a zinc, if it's flat tappet, a zinc additive, but I don't want to mess up the catalytic converter, so I didn't know if that was going to... On that one, you could just run the 1540 diesel oil and be just fine in it, and they are flat tappet. It is a flat tappet.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'd just run the 1540 diesel oil in that if it were me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay. Well, that sounds like a good deal.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it's a good weight for that engine? You'd have no issues doing that at all? It'd be fine?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, okay. I had another quick question. I was going to change the timing belt on my wife's 98 Camry, and I even bought a new air impact, no electric impact. We're supposed to have 1,000 foot-pounds of torque.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I put that on there, and it didn't touch the bolt. It wouldn't budge it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a pretty tight one. They put a little bit of Loctite on that guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I wonder if they did when we had the Toyota dealer put a new belt on it years ago. Probably. I wonder if they put some Loctite.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's probably. I would do it if it was me. Sometimes they can also leak oil. Sometimes crankshafts can leak oil, so you want to put a little something on there. Some don't. Some do.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I can't get the bolt out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sometimes we actually use a three-quarter impact to do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm afraid of rounding the socket.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, use a good socket. We don't talk about this much, but this is, for everybody listening, this is where that high-end snap-on tool truck socket versus what you buy at Harbor Freight or wherever, yeah, there's a big difference between one and the other, and that's why you use the high-quality stuff on those.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it's a 19 or a 17 millimeter?
SPEAKER 1 :
19.
SPEAKER 05 :
So three-quarter, but you want to use 19, not three-quarter. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, actually, the three-quarter fits tighter than the 19.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sometimes in that little area. Then you'd want to use that, so whatever's tightest. But, yeah, that's why you want a good socket.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, I don't know, though. I mean, it doesn't seem to touch it. It's supposed to be 1,040 foot-pounds of torque on this brand-new electric Impact.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can I tell them the way to cheat? Go ahead. All right. You can put your socket on with a... Breaker bar. Rest the breaker bar up against, make sure which way the engine's turning. Rest the breaker bar up against the frame or on the ground, and then just hit your starter once. And just a touch.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I've heard of that. I've heard of that.
SPEAKER 06 :
It works very well. We don't really do that anymore. The older cars, we did that quite a bit. But now, with the better tooling. You don't have to, but in your case, you may have to, Bill.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I'm not sure. Does it turn clockwise then?
SPEAKER 05 :
Just crank it and look. Yeah, have somebody crank it and look. No, you've got to go the other direction or position the breaker bar accordingly is what I should say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay. Yeah, I've seen that done. I forgot about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Bill.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll give it a try.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Appreciate your call. No, very much. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Stuart and Loveland, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, afternoon, guys. How you doing? Good. How are you? Oh, I'm fighting some stuff, but it's getting better. The Lord's good. That's good. Yeah. A couple things. Early on the show, I think first hour, you guys were talking about radios.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
And rebuilds, old-type radios. If you use Bing or Google search, you can find, and I've done this in the past for my 69 Lincoln Mark III radio. There's people in the United States, most of them are on the East Coast. One of them's a little cantankerous, but he's not too bad a guy. He only communicates through texting, but if you send him your radio, he will rebuild that radio and bring it up to current specs, and he can add UBS and Bluetooth and all that kind of stuff if you so desire. it takes about four to six weeks. But the oddity is he doesn't want you to send any knobs. Okay, I can understand that. Yeah, he doesn't want them lost.
SPEAKER 05 :
Doesn't want to lose them, that's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And then the other thing, and he does a really good job, it's just he's a little quirky. So if you're willing to wait a little bit, you'll get a quality job.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I can't remember his name, but he does have a web page up on the Internet. I just saw it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 09 :
About a half hour before calling you guys.
SPEAKER 05 :
Basically, same thing I did with my old Dodge. That's exactly what he's doing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, why not? That's the only way to go, Stuart, if you ask me. I'm fully in on that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Then what do you think of, John, since you drive and Steve, too, with your shop, what do you think of Lincoln Aviators as a car?
SPEAKER 05 :
uh overpriced regular ford okay really sorry that's my opinion i mean they have more creature comforts don't get me wrong i mean they they have got more things going on inside of them than what you're going to find in its regular ford uh counterpart which is what an explorer i believe so an aviator is an explorer just a fancy explorer right but when i pay the extra money knowing how heavily equipped you can get an explorer i would still buy an explorer
SPEAKER 09 :
Or would you?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's me talking, because to me there's not that much. You're buying fluff. I'm sorry. Maybe I don't know what else to say, Stuart. But on the Lincoln, I'm sorry to say this, and I'm not trying to be rude, but you're just buying a lot of fluff. That's all you're getting. Sorry.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I've ridden in them, though, because we used to go to Landmark Lincoln when we had our shows there with the Lincoln Club. And Tom, great guy. I mean, he donated a lot of money to St. Jude's. I have a lot of respect for that man. But with that being said, those vehicles are very quiet.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they are. And again, you're buying a little more luxury. Yes, you're going to get a little bit more sound deadening. They're going to be a little heavier as far as that goes. I think they've got a little bit different as far as the screens are concerned. You're getting more screen, more room, I guess you could say, on screens and so on with the Aviator versus the Explorer. But again... Personally, would I do that? No, but that's me. I mean, I'm not everybody, so that's just me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you're not that fluffy a guy, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of why I don't know that I would buy a Cadillac Escalade full-bore Suburban versus just buying, for example, a Denali or even a High Country in the Chevrolet version. At the end of the day, it's all the same, does the same thing, same amount of room. Everything else is equal. You're just buying a lot more fluff with the Escalade.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Well, I'm not looking at brand new. I'm looking at used. So maybe that changes it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and here's the plus side. If you're buying a used one, because the aviators will depreciate way faster than the explorers will because of everything I just said. So, yeah, buying a used one, that's a different story.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because I could get a one-owner used one through ClearShift. I don't know if you're familiar with that group.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'm familiar with them.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think that's Jeff VanderWaal's company.
SPEAKER 05 :
um yeah i don't know the owner i just know of them yeah and they're pretty good group but but you know as far as that goes yeah i mean now you're buying what somebody else bought and all that depreciation comes right off the top and those expensive cars as you know depreciate faster than its counterpart will oh yeah and like you said uh cars are expensive and i think that i heard once that uh
SPEAKER 09 :
Most individuals will spend more on vehicles in their lifetime than they will on housing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Probably. That's probably true. And that car, I just did the weight comparison. It is 400 pounds more, so given everything we just talked about.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so it rides a little better than two.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because it's got more weight.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, thanks again for your show.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you're welcome, Stuart.
SPEAKER 09 :
Have a good weekend.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you very much. Great call, by the way. I appreciate that. Albert in Denver, go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
John, how are you doing? I always look forward to hearing your program. Thank you, sir. I got a question for you. I got a 2011 Ford Ranger. It was the last of the little Ford Rangers that they built. Right. And I need some tires for it. And on the door, it's 225-70R15. And I've gone to some of these tire stores, and they said there's no problem going up to a 225 or 235-75R15. Is there a... Would that be a big difference on my tire?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you can do that. Changing the width and going. It's basically changing the percentages, basically same size tire when it's all said and done. A little bit narrower, but not by much.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Yeah, because I went to one of these, you know, on the site, the internet, you know, you can get pretty frustrated in the internet. But they said the 3% rule. I said, well, what's the 3% rule? I don't know what they were talking about. But anyway, no, I... You answered a question that I had.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. You're in good shape, Albert. I appreciate it. You're very welcome. No, thank you very much. And, yeah, the tire thing, you know what we probably should do here is we get closer to that October-ish time frame. Maybe next time we have Steve on, we'll get more into the tire end of things because it'll be about that time for people to start looking at winter tires and what to do and so on. And to Albert's point, and he's right, man, it can change. it can get really confusing and you can get bogged down in all sorts of different things when it comes to tires because and tires are a lot like the conversation we just had a moment ago you know navigator versus explorer i mean are they both good vehicles are they gonna get you from a to b yes is there a difference between the two slightly which one do you buy that comes down to your pocketbook and what do you want to spend money on and by the way tires could go along with the same conversation we just had, and I'm not exaggerating. Now, there are some tires I wouldn't buy, brand-wise, I mean, but when you get into kind of that middle to the upper end of the tire world, a lot of it comes down to personal choice, what's it going on, what are you doing with the vehicle, all sorts of things along those lines, and there's still a lot of bias Not bias ply, but bias from individuals when it comes to tires, much like there is Ford, Chevy, Ram. Brand loyalty. Yeah, it comes down to a lot of that. And for me personally, I don't have any of that anymore. I guess I've been in this industry for so long now that I've learned that sort of the underpinnings of the industry – in some cases there's not much difference from one to the other the majority of the parts even are coming from a lot of the same suppliers that manufacture for the oems and when it's all said and done they all have their problems and i've learned that the tire end of it isn't a whole lot different am i wrong steve no No, they're all kind of coming from the same place. All very close when it's all said and done. So, all right, lines are open. We've got one segment left, 303-477-5600. Give us a call or a text message. We'll get right back to you. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. You listen to Drive Radio because you have a lot of questions about your car.
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Three or four inches.
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Yeah, not very big. We're not talking about a gallon jug or anything. It's just a very small pint, basically, is about what it is. And it's called K-Seal, so K-Seal. Think of it that way, S-E-A-L. And I don't know what the K stands for. I guess I should have always looked that up, but I never have, so I don't know what K stands for. But any of you that are having an issue with a cooling system leak, you think you might have a bad head gasket or something along those lines, add a can of that in, drive it for a few hundred miles, and see what happens. If it doesn't work, all you're out was the cost of the case seal. Which isn't that much money, by the way. We're not talking about a boatload of money. It's $20 or so. It's not a lot of money to buy a can of K-Seal. Not even a can, because it doesn't come in a can.
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$16.99.
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Okay, $16.99.
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So it's under $20. I mean, folks, for some of you where you're struggling, especially on an older vehicle where you're trying to figure out exactly what's going on, and rather than go in and tear things down and so on, yes, you could put this particular coolant additive in, and... I don't know why it works as well as it does. And I've been in this industry since I can remember. And I remember back in the day, the old bars leak. And then there was a little silver stuff that came in the little silver tube. And all of those had issues where they would plug up heater cores and do things like that. You discouraged people back then from putting anything into the coolant as far as additives go because of that fear. k-seal doesn't do that what k-seal does is they've designed it in such a way where it knows where the hole is or where that that leak is at and that's where it starts to form its quote-unquote deposit to seal up that particular area meaning that if the heater core isn't leaking and it's flowing through it's not going to stop there and do anything it just stays in the coolant and keeps doing what it needs to do wherever that spot is at that it goes to find think of it that way so one of the best additives for for sealing up Issues engine-wise and a coolant system that, frankly, I've ever run into. BG makes a product as well. I'll be frank. I've never used that product, so I don't know how well it works in comparison to K-Seal. I know this. K-Seal works because I've used it at different times for various things that, you know, again, as I said earlier, middle of a snowstorm. and all of a sudden you've got a coolant leak and you don't have time to do anything internally because it might be even a week or two before you can get to it. I did one of those six-liter EGR coolers where we knew the cooler was leaking, put KCL in it, ran it the rest of the season before taking it apart that summer. That's how well that product works. So for some of you that might be struggling with something, give it a whirl. And no, it is not a mechanic in a can. That's another question I get every now and again. Hey, can I do an oil additive and can I fix such and such? Yeah. No. The only exception to potential engine problems, and I say this a lot on this program, we haven't had it come up once today, I'm surprised, but direct injection vehicles build carbon. When they build so much carbon, yes, they can even start consuming more oil and do some things that they weren't doing when the engine was more fresh. And one of the ways you can attack that is with the BG EPR service, right? Now, you can also do the induction service, which I highly recommend at the same time. The EPR is going into the oil at the time of an oil change. So you pour it in, cold or lukewarm engine. Steve knows this more than I do.
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I think it's less than 10 minutes.
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1,100 RPM or so, 10 minutes, a little bit of RPM, and basically it's going in and cleaning out anywhere that that oil would be circulating and touching, including ring lands and things like that, because, yes, there is oil that gets there. That's why it's an oil ring, okay, because there's oil there. So it's doing its best to get rid of all of those contaminants, carbon, and so on. No, it doesn't damage any of the bearings inside of the vehicle. You're not running it long enough to do anything along those lines. And then you do an induction service on top of that. And in some cases, in fact, I will say this, in a majority of cases where you may have some issues with a direct injection engine, this will fix some of those issues by doing these services. Now, on top of that... If you've got a direct injection engine, you should be doing this every oil change to avoid some of those issues that can happen down the road long term. And follow up with an MOA. And it works so wonderful. And Steve, I cannot, and you know, because you do this every day, I can't stress this enough. Because the carbon buildup, you've seen it, I've seen it, the carbon buildup in these direct injection engines gets severe depending upon the engine it's designed. It can ruin the engine. In some cases, folks, not exaggerating, 60,000, 70,000 miles, you can have problems with this.
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I've had to rebuild motors because of the valves locked up and timing belt, timing chain broke because of all this. Yeah, it's very possible.
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So, and somebody wanted to know if I'm going to the CU game this afternoon. Nope, I am not. I've got some stuff to do around the house, and I am not going to the CU game, although I think it's going to be a good game to go to. So those of you that are, have fun. But no, I am not going to that game. I wish I were, but I am not. But back to the direct injection engines. That's something that if you have a provider, by the way. that's not explaining some of these things to you like we all do here on Drive Radio and we've talked about now for several years, if your provider has never mentioned anything along the lines of what I'm talking about, you need a new provider. I'm going to be very bold. And the reason I say that is because if you don't do these things to your engine, you will, guaranteed, you will have problems down the road if you keep the car long enough. That carbon is building up, whether you realize it or not. I don't care what fuel you're using. I don't care what else you're doing. Typically, most people aren't putting any additives into the gas and doing anything else to try to prevent some of this anyway. So if you're not being preventative with the maintenance on a direct injection engine, it's going to come back to bite you down the road. And as Steve said, in some cases, we're not talking hundreds of thousands of miles, and it's catastrophic and can be well under 100,000 miles when it happens. For those of you that maybe don't know, It's really hard to explain, but that carbon gets so hard, Steve... It's literally like coal. It looks like coal. That's exactly how it looks. And it really, in a way, is like coal, other than I think you could find coal to be softer than actually the carbon coming out of your engine. I mean, I can remember as a kid digging carbon out of engines. You know, you'd get those old Chevys where the crossover passage would get all blocked up on the choke for a Chevy small block. And you couldn't drill that stuff out. Yeah. You literally have to be one of the first jobs I remember having as a kid is, hey, go clean up this intake manifold. And you literally would be chipping away with a hammer and a chisel like you're in a mine digging that carbon out. That's how hard it gets. And until you've done that, you really don't understand what that carbon is doing to the inside of the engine.
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and how it's just coating everything.
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And keep in mind, we had carbon back in those days. Yeah, but not like this. Yeah, not like this, to the point where this now, because of direct injection and the way the internals of the engine works, we're no longer getting the quote-unquote wash. that we once did on the inside of the engine and i don't want to get into all the technic technicalities of that but we're not getting the same effect from the fuel that we once were because it's being directly injected into the combustion chamber of the engine so steve give everybody your phone number if they want to get hold of you 303-794-6700 and that is Geno's Auto Service, corner of Bowles and Platt Canyon. You can always go to genosautoservice.com. Geno starts with a J. I say that all the time. Charlie Grimes, our engineer, thank you so much for doing everything you did today for us. Larry Unger as well, thank you all. So you guys have a great, fabulous weekend. Enjoy the great weather we're having here in Colorado, and thank you so much. We'll be back next week with another episode of Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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