Dive deep into today's pressing issues with Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis. The duo delves into the Comey indictment, dissecting reactions from both sides of the political spectrum. They further discuss the state of accountability in politics and reflect on the tumultuous events surrounding the Trump administration. In a different segment, we explore alternative approaches to healthcare as Christian Healthcare Ministries offers a faith-based, cost-effective solution to rising medical debts. The podcast also touches on the advancement of autonomous vehicles, how they're reshaping transportation, and the intriguing experience of using Waymo cars.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's M&M experience.
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How did that Comey indictment grab you? I saw something that was so perfectly, because they're all screaming on the left about it. This is vengeance. It's revenge. Retribution. Oh, this is the biggest. This is the most. Corruption. Listen to what this guy wrote. I want to read this. I love smart people. I don't know who Will Chamberlain is. He's some lawyer in North Carolina. But here's what he said. We went through four years of BS indictment after BS indictment. And people were indicted on obviously frivolous charges. Think about Roger Stone and his skivvies in the front yard in the middle of the night. Or Steve Bannon or Peter Navarro dragged like a cartel member out of the airport in leg shackles. So now Comey and MSNBC, by the way, those legal hyenas, they cheered all that on. That was perfect. Oh, you bet. Now Comey gets indicted on the most straightforward crime imaginable. This is not gray. Lying under oath to Congress. That's it. And they're calling this the greatest abuse in the history of the Department of Justice. Spare me, as I have Trump's mugshot on my office wall, spare me that this is the greatest abuse in the history. Did you see the clip of Comey with that hyena Nicole Wallace? at some event where he bragged about how they set up and entrapped General Flynn. Have you seen that clip, Mark? Did. He was proud of it. He was absolutely proud of it. Oh, he bragged about it. Audience is laughing. She's giggling like a schoolgirl. Can we play that for Mark, guys? Do you mind playing this? I think we've got it. Let's try to play it. This is James Comey on a – because he dared anybody to come after him. He bragged about it. This is the goofy, the guy walking on the beach and found the shells that happened. It just magically appeared that said, kill Trump.
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8647, exactly. Yeah, kill Trump. That's what kill Trump means, Mark. Well, we had to do some explaining on that. Not everybody was hip to the restaurant lingo, which led to one of my favorite memes of yesterday. Comey on a beach in an orange jumpsuit over a shell distribution that says F-A-F-O. Yeah. I know. I love it. But go ahead.
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Finally. All right. So here it is. Now, this is before you think that Comey's a good guy. Check out this chat in front of a listen to him preen in front of a sycophantic audience and Nicole Wallace one day.
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Look at this White House now. And it's hard to imagine two FBI agents ending up in the same room. How did that happen?
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I sent them. something I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, a more organized administration, in the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration, the protocol, two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last two years. Thank you. And in both of those administrations, there was process. And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I thought it's early enough. Let's just send a couple of guys over.
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I mean, Mark, this is what I mean about a guy. This is rotten. Thanks, guys. This is the rottenness. This is one of the most egregious examples of the weaponization. A corrupt man with his Kamala Harris for president T-shirt and his coffee mug. Trying to hobble the Trump administration. And, oh, by the way, they destroyed General Michael Flynn's life. They destroyed that man. He was a public servant. He's a good and decent man. And they ruined him. And that guy did it. So when you see images of James Comey in an orange jumpsuit, you remember that. I will see what happens.
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This is why we have trials. I mean, I can't guarantee he's going to be convicted. I don't know. Juries are filled with human beings. It's a human process.
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And it's Virginia, and it's blue Virginia. But you know what? It's a start. It's the first shot across the deep state bow. Yes, it is. That's why they're screaming. Accountability is at hand. That's right. And finally, the deep state is actually being challenged. This is why we you said it the other day. I asked you about you said, I'll believe it when I see it.
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I see it. Because Bondi is supposedly, now I don't know if it's true or not, believe half of what you hear or less, but allegedly she had been waffling on this. She really didn't want to go forward with this. I'm worried about her, Mark. I appreciate her, but I... But I got it. But hey, we got it done. She got it done.
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I'm a bottom line person. And I'm speaking of skepticism, everybody. And I think it's possible that some people are overpraised and some people are overcriticized. She may be both. So I'm going to let let it all come out in the wash and see exactly what she does. And the next thing I'd like to see her do is go after Clapper and go after Brennan, because these these these scoundrels are guilty of things as well. or at least there's sufficient reason to believe they are, and they belong on the inside of a courtroom as well.
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They did a lot of damage to this country. They really hurt this country, and you just can't say that enough. How about the story from The Blaze that sources are reporting that the FBI is acknowledging it had, get this, 275 plainclothes agents in the crowds on January 6th? And what might they have been there for? Huh. A senior congressional source told The Blaze that number is not necessarily a surprise. The FBI often embeds counter-surveillance personnel. But they look, because they have been refusing, the FBI has been refusing to disclose what kind of presence, if any, they had there on that day. You know, this is a rabbit hole. I got in trouble yesterday because I pointed out a guy was calling in and he said, oh, you know, every single violent person on January 6th, they were all Antifa people. You can't say that. You can't say that. But when you push back, then people get mad at you and me for pointing the obvious that there were hundreds of people who behaved badly that day. But it's such a frustrating issue. There is a disconnect, don't you think? Isn't there a cognitive disconnect?
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Well, there is. And I think the place where I ultimately arrive is that with all that FBI and it shows that there was an absolute expectation that bad things might happen and that the Capitol was severely underprotected. And this is where you can start to get creative and where I can imagine some people absolutely wanting, rooting for exactly what happened on January 6th, knowing that there would be some sliver of the Trump support bandwagon that would go a little nuts. And so that they could have it and weaponize it for years, which they then tried to do.
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I think people are annoyed and understandably frustrated that if it's 1,000 people or 1,100 or 1,200 or whatever that number is, that's a sliver compared to what happened in the aftermath of George Floyd. Boy, you got that right.
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Let's do it. We've got to do it. What happens the moment you come down to the hotel lobby? It's time to go to the airport. Do you take your phone out, hit the Waymo app? How long does it take for the devil car to arrive? Three minutes. Three to five minutes. So you stand there in front of the hotel. What if the front of the hotel is crowded? You've got a bunch of people parked in front of the hotel. It's busy. It's checkout time.
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The car goes around. It does exactly what a driver would do. I've never been in a smoother ride in my life. I can't drive that smoothly. Understand now, it's not like a Tesla. There's actually a huge radar. Every vehicle is radar equipped. They have sensors all over the place. They're Jaguars. They're white Jaguars. And they've got a big radar dome on the roof, and they've got all these things projected on the side. But it pulls up. It does. And it pulls up.
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Does it say something to you?
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The doors automatically unlock when you approach the car. Then you get in the back seat and it says, hello, Mike. And then please buckle your seatbelt. What music would you like? And I say jazz. And it starts playing light jazz in the background. And then it pulls out. And let me tell you something. It goes fast. It does not inch along. You would have a heart attack. You would have a stroke.
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Of course I will.
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The Eminem Experience. Subscribe to the Mike Gallagher Show podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us. Have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
In this episode, Bill Gundersen dives deep into the current state of the stock market, observing the latest trends and upheavals. He shares insights on the recent rally marked by significant movements in the Dow, Nasdaq, and S&P 500, and discusses the potential causes ranging from favorable inflation reports to global geopolitical tensions. Learn how the upcoming earnings season might unfold as corporate America prepares to close its quarterly books and why this could be significant as we end 2025 and begin 2026.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Best Docs Now show. This is Bill Gunderson. It is Friday, the 26th of September, and the market likes the inflation reports and the news overnight. And we've got a bit of a rally going on in the market with the Dow doing best. The Dow's up 313 points right now, which is 70 basis points. I'll have to look at which stock is driving it. I'm thinking it's Boeing. The Dow is at 46,259. The Nasdaq is up just a scant 1916 right now. A little sell-off in Bitcoin and the crypto stocks this past week. and the AI, which is a little bit overheated right now. The S&P 500, meanwhile, is up 29 points. That's 44 basis points. The Russell 2000 is up 15. It was down this morning. Maybe that was a misprint on Yahoo Finance, but it is up now a little bit. It's up 60 basis points. Meanwhile, over at the bond market, the 10-year is stubbornly high. 4.18%. I thought maybe that PCE cool number would send it down a little bit, but it didn't. It's at 4.19. Gold is at 3,789. It's been hitting new highs all year. It's just below its all-time highs. Crude oil's got a little lift underneath it right now with all the world turmoil, and there's plenty of that, $65.56. And the crypto, Bitcoin, is down $1,600. That's quite a sell-off here recently in Bitcoin. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show on this Friday, September 26th. And the last day of the quarter is going to be on Monday. And that's when the books of Corporate America close for the quarter. Most of the companies, if you have an odd year end and maybe their quarter closes November 1st, but most close on September 30th. And that whole earnings parade, get ready. They're getting warmed up. They're getting in line, right? The elephants, the lions, the tigers, the bears, the bulls, et cetera, will be coming around that corner here in a couple of weeks here in the earnings parade. The last one of the year. 2025 will begin soon. In the meantime, we've got a little rally, as I said, in the market today after a pretty decent sell-off yesterday. And I think it's mostly the Fed that is causing the sell-off. And, of course, you can also point to valuations on the market, which I've been saying for some time now. In fact, last Friday we hit a 20-year high on some of the valuation measures, some of the lesser looked at valuation measures, price to book value, price to sales. But price to earnings, which is probably the most common valuation measure, is also pretty high right now. And you have to keep that in the back of your mind. Okay, we've got a lot going on in the world today and in sectors of the market, especially the pharmaceutical drug sector. Rate cut uncertainties remain with Jerome not doing us any good, not helping at all by talking down the market, how high it is, how richly priced it is, the fear of inflation, and at the same time, seemingly weakening labor market. But we always begin with world events. There's a couple of big ones today that caught my eye. Russia, Iran, Iran signs a deal with Russia to build seven, I think, or eight nuclear power plants. And any time you mention the word nuclear between Iran and Russia... I think, number one, we would think twice about bombing Iran again, which we did. We took out a lot of their nuclear enrichment facilities. But now they're calling in big brother, Russia. So that's my Ezekiel 38 update for the day. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you go to the Old Testament and read Ezekiel chapter 38. which I think will have relevance at some point in the future, hopefully not anytime soon, but we have to always keep an eye on that. And the other issue is NATO is ready to shoot down any Russian jets. What happens if NATO shoots down a Russian jet? Is that World War III? Maybe Martin Armstrong's prediction, Barry, which we heard again while we were in the Silicon Valley from one of the folks we met with. He's predicting World War III. That's what his Socrates computer is saying. He spent 11 years in prison honing that machine after running quite a Ponzi scheme. But it's still out there. Martin Armstrong has a lot of followers, believe it or not. But the EU ready to shoot down a Russian jet? Don't you dare cross into Poland. And EU leaders are discussing a drone wall in the sky. So that's good for the drone makers. Oil slipped a little bit, but it's headed for its biggest weekly gain in three months on geopolitical tensions. So, you know, nowhere does the state of the world and the geopolitical tension show up more than in the oil markets. And they have been rising. But, you know, any oil rally has not followed through here. It's been a terrible sector to be invested in. And then there's one last one here, breaking news, that Trump is saying, I think we have a Gaza deal. And, of course, his emissary there, Witkoff, has spent a lot of time trying to work out a Gaza deal. That's the impossible one, right? That goes back to the times of Ezekiel, Barry. What do Trump and Ezekiel have in common? They both have seen the trouble in the Middle East. And, of course, Trump did do the Abraham Accords. Maybe he can pull off something in Gaza, which is not easy.
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There have been a lot of negotiations in that part of the world over the years, right?
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Yes. Yes, and then let's not forget, we have one more thing to worry about over the weekend, and I do think it has something to do with the correction in the market, the threatened government shutdown. The government has directed federal agencies to prepare for mass firings, there goes the label market, If the government shuts down on October 1st, Barry, when's October 1st? That's Tuesday, right?
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It's Wednesday. I think it's Wednesday.
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That's when the funding will expire. Both sides, the Democrats and the Republicans, their feet are not moving. They're not budging. And that's just something else to worry about. And I'll give you one more if that's not enough to worry about. Not only your SEC team playing this weekend on Saturday, whatever your college team is, your pro teams on Sunday, the MLB playoffs, but Trump's 100% drug tariffs send pharma stocks lower. Not all of them. But the ones that manufacture, so your AstraZeneca's, any of your European, Novo Nordisk, GlaxoSmithKline, Takeda Pharmaceutical, Bayer, Sanofi, Novartis, which is a Swiss company, Those stocks are under pressure here today. Lilly actually is up today, however, because they just announced that they're going to manufacture in Houston, right? They're going to manufacture their ZipBound drug in Houston. TikTok. You know, I'm kind of surprised. I thought that thing would be worth... I don't know if I were to just run a number in my head, $75 to $100 billion, but it's $14 billion is what the deal is coming in at, which really that's not even a mid-cap. That's a small cap. That's a small cap.
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It's just for the American piece of the business. Okay.
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All right. So it is a private company. BDNCE is kind of the moniker that they use there for TikTok. But I was kind of surprised at that valuation. Oracle seems to be the big beneficiary of the TikTok deal. They're going to be the steward over the algorithms. they're going to babysit, they're going to be the custodian, I guess you could say, of the algorithms to make sure that there's no spy software in there or algorithms that would lead to spying. Well, okay, and if you do the math, Dan Ives estimates that TikTok was worth around $100 billion. That's what I was thinking. $100 billion overall, but I guess this U.S. version, $14 billion. Trump's executive order provides a 120-day window to complete the deal. What's unclear is if China will approve the deal. Now, when we come back, which companies will be affected most by this new HB1 deal? What's really going on with the U.S. economy? We're seeing cross currents there. And is Costco entering into soggy territory? More on that when we come back. This is the Best Stocks Now show. And welcome back to the second segment of the Best Docs Now show. Well, you know, we were in that Silicon Valley last week. And since then, this HB1 is pretty – or H1B, I'm sorry, Visa deal is pretty controversial, Barry. And it will have a major impact. The new H-100,000 H-1B visa application fee has sparked debate on the need for STEM professionals in the U.S. and how they contribute to the economy. Some argue that the H-1B visa program takes away jobs from native workers and lowers their wages. Others believe H-1B holders complement U.S. workers and fill employment gaps in STEM fields. NVIDIA CEO Jensen Wang and OpenEye CEO Sam Altman have backed Trump's move. Others are more skeptical. Gary Tan, CEO of startup accelerator Y Combinator, said the new fee will not bother the big tech, but it kneecaps startups. There's a few startups out there and across the country He says that this current policy outcome equals a massive gift to every overseas tech hub. In the middle of an AI arms race, we're telling builders to build elsewhere. Here's the biggest employers of H-1B workers. Number one is Amazon, 10,044. TCS, 5,505. Who's TCS? Do a little Google search on TCS. I know who it is, and I can't think of it right now. Microsoft, 5,189. Meta, 5,123. Apple, 4,202. Google, 4,181. Now, we met, obviously, with a lot of folks from India last week, and we had just such a good time talking with the folks. I don't know how many. I would imagine that most are citizens now, by now. And I don't know if we met with any H-1B. I'm sure we could find out, Barry, about one guy we met with that runs the M&A company. He would certainly have a handle on that. He'd be an interesting guy, in fact, to have on the show because he works with startups and does M&A activity with them. Okay, what's really going on with the U.S. economy? We're getting a lot of mixed signals here. You're our Chief Chartered Financial Analyst. I have a perspective on the U.S. economy, and I'm going to see what you think of my perspective. We had GDP of 3.8%. The market's hitting all-time highs. Inflation is cool. The tax situation is set in place, and the trade has been tilted in the direction of U.S., U.S. workers and U.S. factories. I think the economy is pretty darn good. What do you say, Barry? You can disagree. I don't care.
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No, I mean, I think it's got a lot of, you know, tailwinds to the economy, particularly some of the stuff that's harder to, you know, harder to quantify, right, in terms of, you know, less, you know, more deregulation, just more business-friendly environment, right, a lot of these things. influx of investment that these different companies have said they're going to do. At some point, that helps keep pushing things. I think from the tax policy, having that is going to give a shot in the arm to the economy in the first quarter of 2026 in terms of potential growth. retail uh spending so yeah i mean i think there's uh you know there's a lot of reasons why um gdp should remain uh you know pretty strong going forward not to mention a lower rate environment as well you know i understand that different sections of the world of the country uh you know are ebb and flow and
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That's all I can say. We went to the Silicon Valley there, and we went out to dinner one night at a little area that was pretty neat. Was there a parking place in that area? There was about five restaurants. I had to slip the guy a 20 to park my car, and we went to Fleming's, which was the only place we could get into. Was there an empty seat in there, Barry? No.
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There was an NPC in that whole complex.
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Were wine glasses being clinked together and toast being made? Was there a buzz inside of there? And when we drove by the Apple complex, there was a buzz all around that. When we went to Alexander's Steakhouse in Cupertino, right by Apple, people were spending the bucks and eating the cotton candy for dessert afterwards. I didn't see the economy suffering at all there in the Silicon Valley. Now, obviously, it depends on where you go. But also, like you said, I mean, we've had massive investments coming announced by Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, OpenAI, Meta, Lilly. And, you know, that hasn't even kicked in yet. So anyways, I'm not seeing a weak economy myself. And here in the Charleston area, I would say this, though. Economies that depend upon tourism, I don't think tourism was as good this year as it normally is. But, you know, we have a place here in Isle of Palms called Wild Dunes. That place was packed every weekend, Barry. It's all I know. Right. But I did hear a little bit of grumbling from some of the downtown restaurants that tourism was. We're not the number one tourist destination. destination anymore here in charleston we've been replaced by somebody maybe orlando i don't know but maybe that was down but i'm seeing strong gdp uh the the weakening labor market seems to be the one thing they point to uh these days okay perky stocks intel Intel has really perked up. It broke out yesterday. Well, they've got kind of a backstop, I suppose, with an investment from the U.S. government.
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And NVIDIA.
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And NVIDIA and Jensen Wang's money. And Tesla continues to break out. Very perky. It gets a street-high target price from Wedbush today to $600. You know, Barry, I'm almost thinking... It belongs in our ultra-growth portfolio. That thing will go up $100 and down $100 a share just like that.
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It's got some volatility for sure.
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I don't think it belongs in the premier growth just because of the dang volatility of the thing. But Wedbush is calling out the AI opportunity with Tesla. Because I don't think the opportunity is the electric vehicle. No, it's certainly not the car. No. So there's the issue I have. And I don't know how much of that AI is in the stock Tesla. It seems to me like a lot of it is private, in the private part of Tesla, where SpaceX and others and the brain connections and everything, Neuralink. And the last thing I would say here, speaking of the Apple campus, which is absolutely beautiful. I would love to just walk through there, have lunch in the cafeteria, blah, blah, blah. But they are seeing a solid start to the iPhone 17 sales. I'm in the market for a new phone, and I'm thinking maybe the i17 Pro is made for Bill. It's got my name on it. We'll see. I'll be the guinea pig. But meanwhile, the Apple stock, not all that perfect. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. And I called it, Barry. It is Boeing that is leading the Dow higher. And I've never seen a week or two weeks like Boeing has had. I mean, somebody's making some big commissions over there. Maybe it's Trump. I don't know. It's Turkish Airlines, China, Kazakhstan.
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Everybody gets a plane.
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Norwegian Air Shuttle. Where are they going to put them? I guess they'll figure it out. That's a good problem to have. Because when I drive by that thing, it's like, wow, where are they going to put another plane to deliver? They better get the deliveries going there. Now, I want to mention something here. Don't forget, there's a couple of big contractors that Boeing uses. One is named Rolls-Royce, those jet engines, R-Y-C-E-Y, which now trades on the – there's an ADR for it now, Barry. It used to just be on the pink sheet. So, you know, that's a very viable stock. It's not that expensive, and they also have a hand or two in the nuclear business. And they're opening a nuclear facility here in South Carolina. Number two, let's not forget GE Aerospace, which has been hitting new highs. And these two, of course, are the engines, the spare engines, the engine maintenance services for the planes, etc., And then there's a third one, Francis Safran, which I've looked at before. It's a pretty good company. It was the number one ranked stock in the app here for a while. S-A-F-R-Y. It's French, and it does trade on the pink sheets, but it trades heavy volume. So anyways, Erdogan's visit, he leaves after signing a deal for, I don't know, it was quite a few airplanes. So anyways, that Boeing parking lot and all that clutter around our airport, it's all one big complex if you've ever been to the Charleston airport. Man, that thing is growing. They're adding a whole other giant parking garage. We're becoming like the Charlotte Airport. Not quite that big. But when you add the Boeing presence right next to it and really integrated with the airport, it's massive. Okay, this is just my opinion, but I'm seeing it. Eventually, great stocks become soggy. stodgy old growth giants of yesteryear okay so you know look i mean walmart is not building a store in every town anymore they've pretty much saturated the market right okay starbucks would enter into that procter and gamble would enter into that they've been soggy for quite some time And I'm going to make a bold statement here that's not going to be popular with a lot of people because everybody seems to love Costco. I think it's becoming a single-digit grower, maybe 8%, somewhere in that range. That's not a good chart there on Costco. Costco is breaking its support level today down at 920. It's been as high as 1,100, so it's down a couple hundred points off of its high. That works out to about an 18% sell-off in Costco. Who knows? Maybe it'll show up on the relative value portfolio.
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Yeah, show up on the radar there, maybe.
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But a retail box bricks-and-mortar retailer trading at 52 times earnings, I'm not so sure that's sustainable. When you're growing by 8% to 10%, let's call it, okay, 8% to 10%. The forward P.E. ratio is 47%. And so you say, why is Target trading at 8% or 9% and Costco? Well, number one, there's something in the market called goodwill. Right, Barry? It's something you can't quantify, right? Okay, there was a lot of goodwill in Chipotle stock. Just the name, the popularity. There's a lot of will in Tesla stock because of the name Elon Musk. There's a lot of goodwill there. And, you know, it's something you can't quite quantify. And it can go the other way sometimes.
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And it's got a bit of a cult following, too. I mean, we spend there regularly. I should buy stock in it. Unfortunately, I just spend there.
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Yes, there's a lot of goodwill in Gunderson Capital because of Bill and Barry. That's the goodwill portion in that balance sheet that you can't quantify.
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The stock is down 14% from its 52-week high. That's not a great-looking chart, for sure.
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To me, it's soggy, all lower caps. When it gets to upper cap soggy, it's Johnson & Johnson, it's Procter & Gamble, it's Kimberly-Clark. Those are all upper caps, S-O-G-G-Y. But I'm going to give Costco lower cap soggy right now. They're going to open 35 new stores, but for a company that size...
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I mean, it could show up on the old relative value spot.
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But not at 52 times PE. No. It's got to get down in the 30s or something. Okay, and I mentioned Intel, how it's surging as investment news bubbles and the PC market is stronger than expected. You know, people are, you just have to upgrade your PCs. Now, can a company get rid of it, shake its sogginess off? Yes. We've seen some great examples. GE went from being a very soggy stock to a very relevant stock. Intel seems to be in that kind of a transformation. I'm going to give you another one to keep an eye on, and I added it to my daily watch list. Cisco shows off new software to connect quantum computing cloud. Okay, right? I mean, Cisco made their claim to fame was the telephone networks. Networking, yeah, the switches. Now, quantum cloud. And who else has become relevant lately again? Oracle. Right? It had entered lowercase soggy territory, and all of a sudden, no, it's relative again. GE is big-time relative again. It crossed out a long time ago. with the spin-off of GE Vernova.
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I've seen some use cases recently for IBM even on the AI front. I'm trying to remember what it was that I saw. I want to say it may have been in the athletics market.
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Yeah, and a little bit of quantum too for IBM. And Cisco definitely. So I'm going to keep my eye. You know, I mean, it's a low single-digit grower, but it showed some promise here. Their last quarter, their earnings were up 14%. That's the best quarter they've had in a long time. There's not stupid people working at Cisco. I mean, this was one of the great companies, one of the great stocks. of all time i remember the powerhouse and of course it's headquartered in san jose california we never did see their headquarters i never did see it we probably might have driven right by it and not even noticed it i think i have seen it off the 101 freeway but let's keep an eye on cisco maybe they can become relevant again they've got some pretty good management over there They're starting to get into the right areas of the market now. So anyways, never count one of these big guys down and out. They're now talking quantum, and they're now talking the cloud and computing. Those are all the buzzwords. Okay, another one, perpetual resources. Rare earth stocks continue to be on fire. Perpetua Resources is one I've talked about, PPTA. They're in talks with Glencore, which is one of the biggest basic material companies in the world. And Perpetua PPTA has got some rare earth exposure. But what's the number one rare earth stock in the world today? Well, it's in the app. I own a few shares. It's a pink sheet stock. It's Zijin Mining. Never heard of it, right? It's Hong Kong listed. You might wake up a little bit when you hear that it's got a valuation of $100 billion. Now, we've heard that 80% of the rare earth comes from China. Well, this is the company, Zijin Mining, Z-I-J-M-F. I'll bet Chairman Xi's got a few shares in this thing. But it's had a blistering rally. You can look up a chart on Yahoo Finance. Z-I-J-M-Y. There's two versions, or Z-I-J-M-F. You want some exposure to rare earth? There you go. And nuclear remains hot. When we come back, one we haven't talked about for a while, but they're getting a deal worth 1.1 gigawatts of gas and nuclear technology. We'll be right back.
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You've got to go where you want to go, do what you want to do, and then whoever you are.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. And I do see that the NASDAQ has gone negative, down 59 right now. And I did draw, as I always do, every time you hit a peak. And start to roll over a little bit. I draw a line like it was the top, Barry. You can look at my chart. You see just a little short line there up at 23,000 almost. And in my mind I say, was this the top? And that was the title of last week's newsletter. Look, the NASDAQ, believe it or not, let's just review this for a moment. On April the 8th, it bottomed, the day of my article. The NASDAQ was 14,784. Okay? 14,784. And on earlier this week, it was Monday, I want to say, the NASDAQ hit an all-time high of almost 23,000. That is a 50% move. If you do the math, no, not quite, not quite. But 40 plus, 40% plus move in the NASDAQ from 14,784. to the ultimate top. There it is. It closed at 22,788 on Monday. It might have been Friday of last week. That's a heck of a move by any measure, okay? So that's in the 40% range. When I say top, I don't believe that we've reached the ultimate top in the bull market. That began in 08 and 09 because the earnings expectations still look good for the next few years. But you also have secondary corrections within primary trends. If you look at the primary trend, if you pull up a chart and set your start date at 2009, do the NASDAQ, and your end date of today, 16 years, You're not going to see a leveling off yet. You're not going to see a downtrend, but you'll see lots of secondary corrections within that primary uptrend. Barry knows all this lingo now. I'm sure it came up a lot in getting there were a lot of questions on the test, the CMT test. I just know it from 25 years of looking at charts. Okay, so let's assume that that was the top there. It would be a correction. That means it would be ready for a correction. You'd get a secondary correction within this primary uptrend, which could take it down to the $20,000 area or something like that.
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And can be, I mean, for markets, it's actually, you know, healthy. Can be healthy having those pullbacks and, you know, test some kind of support level, right, and then continue to grind higher. You know, it makes for a healthier market than something that's just going straight up, you know, the entire time.
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And if we were to pull back right now, there's pretty good support at 21,000. So that's 1,200 points below where we're at now on the NASDAQ, which is quite a bit, but it's 3%, 4%, 5%. So during a time like this, we've done some profit-taking. Obviously, others are doing it too. You wouldn't have this little crest, this little peak that we recently hit. So we've raised some cash. We've cut some big winners in half. We cut some positions in half that went on a torrid run. Torrid? Torrid run since April the 8th. We've sold maybe one or two that were not performing. We sold one that was underwater and was just not looking very good. It's in that buy now, pay later space, which all those stocks are not looking real good in that space right now. I'm going to send you over a chart, Barry, of Affirmed. It's breaking its little support level there. Right. Something to keep in mind. And then we've got the AI stocks. Okay. And the other thing that you can do is other than doing some profit taking, there's nothing wrong with the harvest. I'm glad I harvested my tomatoes when I did because about three weeks later, I got hit with the fungus that killed every plant. So I was able to put up 25 jars of some good salsa before the fungus hit. Now, I don't know that the fungus is going to hit the NASDAQ, but there's definitely going to be some rounds of profit-taking. And I think, as I've said before, it's the highfalutin areas that get hit first. And my number one and number two areas that I think are the most vulnerable, I'll give the top three. Four. I've got four. Number one is always good old Cathie Wood's. Her stuff starts to go down first because she's out there on the frontier. So Sark comes into play, which is inverse Kathy Woods. Number two, I think the real bubble is in crypto. I'm talking Coinbase, BSMR, all these ones that she's been loading up on. So if you buy SARC, you're also getting a lot of short, you know, inverse action on the crypto players, Galaxy. I mean, there's been so many crypto stocks, the coin, the miners. She's loaded up in a lot of those. Okay, so that's one and two. Number three would be Hibs. hibs is the inverse high beta okay and that's the stocks that are the next ones to correct obviously those that have gone up the most are those that have the most downside risk and vulnerability to profit taking so hibs hibs would just be one of those and then the nasdaq in general PSQ or QID, which is 2x the NASDAQ. And then my fourth one, small caps are always very vulnerable in times of profit-taking. And I look to inverse the Russell 2000, which 1950 stocks, in my opinion, are junk. Junk doesn't do well during a time of profit-taking or correction. And I look to RWM, which is inverse one time, the Russell 2000. If you want to double your fund, TWM. And if you want to get really crazy, TZA is triple inverse, the Russell 2000. You might want to check into this week's newsletter. We'll all be addressing this whole topic again. Go to GundersenCapital.com to get four free weeks of the newsletter. Is anybody looking at your portfolio on a daily basis? Set up an appointment with us at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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On this episode of The Mike Gallagher Show, Mike takes listeners deep into the chaos surrounding mass deportations, political violence, and the media’s selective silence. From the recent ICE facility shooting in Dallas to the attempted assassinations of President Trump, Mike questions why the public hears so little about these violent actors and their motives. He and longtime colleague Phil Boyce discuss the generational divide over immigration enforcement and how young Americans perceive mass deportations.
The program also highlights the powerful spiritual aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, including a listener testimony about an unlikely conversion sparked by the memorial service. In between heavy topics, Mike shares practical help for everyday Americans with sponsors like Chapter for Medicare solutions, PHD Weight Loss, and MyPillow. Later, veteran pollster John McLaughlin joins the show to break exclusive polling data showing Republicans holding a lead in the 2026 generic ballot and why preserving healthcare tax credits is a winning issue for conservatives.
Mike’s candid exchange with a first-time caller named Law showcases his commitment to respectful dialogue even with those who disagree. This episode combines hard truths, heartfelt stories, and real solutions for listeners navigating one of the most turbulent political climates in modern history.
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I saw a headline this morning on TV, one of those graphics. They call them chyrons. Democrats accused of demonizing ICE agents. Accused? The sun was accused of setting in the west. The sky has been accused of being blue. Democrats accused of demonizing ICE agents. You want me to play the litany of slurs and smears and attacks that ICE agents have had to endure from Democrats? Prominent Democrats. Not your garden variety, purple-haired weirdo in the basement. I mean the big-time Democrats, the Hakeem Jeffries, the Gavin Newsoms, all of them have vilified and eviscerated ICE agents. And then all of a sudden we're surprised when somebody shows up at an ICE office, a detention facility in Dallas, and shoots the place up and kills... One of the very people that the leftist was trying to protect. Wow. We're in a dark time right now. It's a dark, dark period in our nation's history. I was just talking to Tracy. Some of the best shows happen off the air. I had this great conversation with my boss, Phil Boyce. Phil was a lecturer in front of a bunch of college kids yesterday. And the college kids were asking Phil questions. Do you guys realize how many young people recoil at seeing families, migrant families they call them, rounded up, terrified, and sent home? Do you guys have any compassion at all for that? And, you know, of course, you and me, we dig our heels in and we say, with love, this is what we voted for. Trump promised this would be happening. He's delivering on the promise. It's happening, and at least according to most polls that I've seen, Americans approve. But Phil and I agreed, and, you know, maybe this is not a time to start getting squishy, but there are young people who are seeing this and they're saying, is this the way to go? And, of course, it's up to us to inform, to illuminate, to educate with love, sure, with compassion, and say to these young people, we always knew this was going to be rough. We always knew how hard this was going to be. You and I talked about it when Trump was not even in office, when he was on the campaign trail. We talked about what would happen when the day came and the mass deportations began. You better get ready for all the tearful media coverage of the poor families, the hardworking migrants, like they like to call them, being ripped apart, shipped back to Guatemala or Haiti or Mexico or El Salvador or Venezuela. We all knew this was going to be here. What we didn't recognize, I think, was the way Democrats would normalize political violence. And they have. And they have. Whether it's trying to kill President Trump, killing Charlie Kirk, putting pipe bombs under Fox News vehicles, shooting up places, on and on. This is getting uglier and uglier, and we're left with what do we do about it? You know, back to the shows that are great that are off the air. So Tracy and I were talking. Isn't it fascinating how we know so little about some of these bad actors, these violent leftists? We don't know anything about the guy who tried to kill President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. And, of course, they killed him. He's gone. What was his story? We don't know a lot about the guy that tried to kill President Trump on the golf course. What's his story? The other day, yesterday, I guess, he got convicted and tried to plunge a pen into his neck. But this is the guy that was making all these trips to Ukraine? Why don't we know much about him? And the guy yesterday. who killed an illegal at the Dallas ICE detention facility. What about him? I saw little snippets about his mother. She hated Trump. His brother said he wasn't a very good marksman. But what was his agenda? He apparently wrote anti-ICE on the shell casings. And we're actually saying, what was the agenda? He couldn't make it any clearer if he held a press conference before he climbed up on the roof. If you're going to write anti-something on a shell casing and then fire bullets at ATF officials and officers, rather, your agenda seems pretty clear. But still, MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, we don't really know what the motive was. We don't know why. We don't know much about this guy. Why is that? I mean, let's start there for a couple of minutes. As we kick off a Thursday in the Relief Factor studios, welcome in, incidentally, 800-655-MIKE. Thank you for being there. Thank you for being part of this show. Thank you for listening to us on the radio or watching us on Salem News Channel or streaming online, however you get the show, because I don't know what I'd do without you. Look, I love celebrating great times with you. And I appreciate getting through hard times with you as well. And we're going through a hard time. We're going through a very difficult time right now. So let's start here. Why don't we know about the guy who tried to kill Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania? Why don't we know about the guy who tried to kill Trump on the golf course? One of them's dead. One of them's still alive. Why do you suppose we don't know much about them? Does the media not show any interest in would-be assassins for Trump? I've got to believe we'd know all about would-be assassins for prominent Democrats. Books have been written about Lee Harvey Oswald. I've read a lot of them. Fascinating story. He was on their radar. They knew who he was. Big Cuban sympathizer. with shady ties to shady figures. So why don't we know about the two would-be assassins for Donald Trump? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. It's a great text from Pennsylvania as I walk into the studio. Excuse me, from Georgia, from Atlanta. And this is why I love the feedback and getting to be with this community called the Mike Gallagher Show. Atlanta writes, Mike, I was just thinking how strange it is that in less than a year, we've lost three of the most powerful voices of freedom on air. Prager, Gorka, and Charlie Kirk. And of course, all of them We're part of the Salem family, the Salem media group that presents the Mike Gallagher show to you. Oh, make no mistake, we're all hurting. And believe me, Atlanta, we think about that often. I've talked about that a lot with my colleagues and my bosses. First Dennis and his terrible fall, taking him off the air, quadriplegic. Sebastian Gorka. Heeding the call to go to the White House and serve at the pleasure of the President, directing counterterrorism efforts, losing his voice from the airwaves. And now Charlie Kirk. And all three are teammates. All three of them, men that I have known and loved and worked with for years. So give us a little grace because all of us here at Salem are certainly hurting. We feel a little shell-shocked. It's going to be great to be with people tomorrow night in Sarasota. Larry Elder and I are going to be at Michael's on East. There are just a handful of tickets left. We're going to have a tribute to Charlie Kirk. We're going to talk about this new chapter in American history. And it feels good to be with like-minded patriots. There's nothing like being in a room full of people. And I urge you quickly to go to TheAnswerSarasota.com to order your tickets. There's a VIP meet and greet at 530. The event shortly after that, Michael's on East in beautiful Sarasota for tickets. Again, tomorrow night, Sarasota, Florida. Larry Elder, Mike Gallagher. You won't want to miss it. TheAnswerSarasota.com. TheAnswerSarasota.com. Grab those last few tickets before it's too late. We can't wait to see you there. I can't wait to tell you every day about chapter because when I was struggling with Medicare, I didn't know what I was doing. 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It's a pleasure to see you again, Mike. Thanks for the opportunity.
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You bet. Welcome back. You know, I've been talking about this campaign with Americans for a Balanced Budget, and I've shared that your polling shows that over 70% of Trump supporters favor preserving the health care tax credits. Can you share with us why you think that resonates so strongly, even in traditionally conservative areas that typically oppose government spending, or even with the president's own base?
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Because it's a tax credit. You're seeing stories and hearing reports coming out of Washington right now about Congress negotiating to wipe out these health care tax credits because these are not handouts. This is basically a tax credit to help working people whose employers don't give them health insurance. They might be working two, three jobs, but they don't have health insurance. And they get, under the exchanges, they get a health care tax credit to help them pay for, if they qualify, if they have need to qualify to buy their own health insurance. But in Washington, the crazy language is that they call it a subsidy. And when we asked about if they, right, and you know what it is? I mean, it's an attempt by Washington to just bleed working Americans, to bleed working class Americans. If you take away those healthcare tax credits, what happens to the working class people that have it? Well, you have to go on Medicaid. So, you know, they'll have to be, you know, Washington Congress, they didn't want to even take the Democrats. They want to take illegal immigrants off Medicaid. So you'd have to go on Medicaid and then we'd have to, you know, provide that type of expense. But when we asked about people, if they support I mean, if they support these health care tax credits, 86 to eight, all voters did. This was on June 19th. We were the first pollsters that did this. And then Republicans, they supported 84 to 9. Trump voters, 82 to 10. It's common sense. If somebody can't afford health care and they want to work and they want to pay for it themselves, if health care is kind of expensive for a lot of people, If they need help paying it, the government has been giving them health care tax credits, not subsidies, not handouts, not a welfare check. And as they earn more money, you know, they need less of a tax credit. But this is this is crazy. Only Washington where they want to take away, take something away from working class people. And. These are the voters that elected Donald Trump. We turned the Republican Party into a party of working class voters instead of country club Republicans. And here they are in Washington wanting to take away the health care of these working class Americans.
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So, John, based on your own polling. What do you what would you how would you advise Republicans? Look, we're facing a high stakes election in 2026. You have a lot of Republicans who campaigned on lowering health care costs. What words of wisdom would you have for those Republican candidates as to how to navigate this kind of sticky, complicated issue?
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This is so easy because tomorrow we'll release a national poll of 1,000 likely voters where the generic ballot favors the Republicans 47-41. Because we voted for the Trump tax cuts. We voted for the Trump tax cuts. The Democrats wanted a tax increase. And now you've got, okay, they're negotiating in Washington. No brainer. 77% of all voters are more likely to vote for a senator or congressman who votes to preserve these tax credits. 74% are less likely to vote for a candidate who votes against preserving these tax credits. This is one where we steal one from the Democrats. So, you know, Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, their goal is not to give us anything. They're just ruthless. They don't care how many people they hurt. They don't care, you know, they want government to get bigger. They want Donald Trump to be gone. They want to be able to start the impeachments. I mean, this is ridiculous. We have to vote for this because it's this is I mean, it's a health care tax credit for working class voters. It's so easy. This is, you know, like my friend who worked for Donald Trump with us years ago, but he passed away was Pat Goodell. And Pat had a saying that Democrats are the crooked party and Republicans are the stupid party. We need to be the stupid party. We need to pass these. Get this done. Get it off the table. Put it in our budget. Keep the health care tax credits. We love tech.
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I appeared with Pat on Fox News before. Great guy. Let me just close with this. Let's not bury the lead. You're one of the most respected pollsters in America. You gave us a scoop, I think, here on the Mike Gallagher show. So tomorrow you're releasing a poll. We've only got about 30 seconds left here, but 47 to 41 percent Republicans are ahead in 2026.
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Right, in the generic ballot for Congress. But we're not over 50, and a lot of that undecided will go back to the Democrats. So we need to keep setting the agenda and watch the Democrats collapse, because their future? Zora Mondami.
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There you go. Yeah, that's right. Look, it breaks my heart for New York, but it gives me hope for the country, because if the country sees New York electing that guy, that's pretty good for Republicans. John, thank you. Keep fighting the good fight. Go to StopHealthCostHikes.com. Tell Congress... to make sure you extend these vital tax credits. StopHealthCostHikes.com StopHealthCostHikes.com A great initiative from our friends at Americans for a balanced budget. Stick around. There's a lot more coming up. Every single day, it's a joy to remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by MyPillow. As you know, our friend Mike Lindell, big legal victory last week. He's been in a ton of hot water, as you know, because he believes in election integrity. Of course, due to his friendship with President Trump. Well, last week, there was a $5 million... judgment against Mike that was overturned by the courts. Good news for MyPillow. So you keep praying for MyPillow and you keep supporting this great American company. The premium MyPillow, limited time, great price, $18.98. If you go to MyPillow.com, this pillow is a godsend. Look, I bring the MyPillow products with me when I'm on the road. Here at the hotel in Washington State, I've got the MySlippers with me. Those unbelievable slippers because I pat around in the hotel room. I don't know what's on that rug. I bring the MyPillow with me. I roll it up into the suitcase. I've even got my MyPillow loungewear. Tons of great products. If you haven't been to the site in a while, go check it out. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. You're going to save big. The slippers, the doggy beds, and the Giza dream sheets. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Like we love to sing.
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Want some good news? Church attendance nationally is skyrocketing. More and more people after Charlie's murder, his assassination, are going back to church. I had a really wonderful exchange with a caller named Jennifer earlier this week. If you missed it, I want to replay it for you. I think it might lift your spirits. And to be in that arena, maybe my friend just didn't have that. He was watching it on TV. Maybe you couldn't feel that energy, that emotion, that spiritual beauty of Sunday's service. And maybe nobody knows that better than Jennifer in Pennsylvania because, Jennifer, as I understand it, you had somebody who had quite a conversion, quite an experience while watching the Charlie Kirk Memorial. Is that correct?
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That's correct.
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Tell me all about it.
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A little bit of background. My girlfriend lives two hours away. Her husband has a type of dementia that caused him to go blind, and now he has Lewy body dementia, and he needs assistance walking. He needed to get away, so I thought, well, I wanted to watch Charlie Kirk's memorial anyway, so I would watch it with her husband, Doug, who has for years rejected Jesus as his Savior. and always makes a joke about it when we try to talk to him. So he's losing his memory. He still has his long term, but he's losing so much so fast. And I prayed on my way down to her house, Lord Jesus, today may be his last opportunity to get this. So my girlfriend left, and he was more receptive with me being there. And he was so touched by the speakers and by what happened. I've never seen him so touched. When the pastor, and I can't remember which pastor, said, if you are a believer, if you've received Christ as your Savior, you stay seated.
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Right, Rob McCoy. Yep. Okay. Charlie's pastor, by the way, Jennifer.
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Okay.
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I kind of thought that might be the one. Sure.
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So then he said, if you want to receive Christ as your Savior, and he had explained before this what it means to receive Christ as your Savior. He said, I want you to stand. Doug, my friend who's blind, popped off of the couch like he was shot out of a cannon and let out a groan and stood there, unable to see, but staring at the television and And then the pastor said, I want a believer now to go over and pray with somebody who's standing. So I went over to my friend, I put my arm around him, and I said, Doug, do you want to receive Jesus as your Savior? And he said, yes. He was lucid in that moment. I prayed with him, and then I asked him, did you receive Christ as your Savior? And he said, yes. His life is eternal. bouncing off the walls because we knew time was running out, and God was just so gracious to give this man one last opportunity. How about that?
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How about that to put a smile on your face? More of the Mike Gallagher Show coming up.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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I love sharing conversations that happened off the air on this show. Tracy and I, Eric, Christian, Alex, Joey, all the people that we work with. This morning, I have a little routine. I check in pretty regularly with my boss. My boss, who is probably one of the most respected content evaluators of talk radio and television content in the country. And I've worked for Phil Boyce for many years. And Phil was a guest lecturer in front of a bunch of college kids yesterday at a big Ivy League school. I don't think he traveled there. I think it was on Zoom. But Phil shared with me what a whole bunch of well-meaning young people said to him. And in the aftermath of the ICE shooting in Dallas, in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, As we're seeing leftists resort to violence over the mass deportation that is going on. Look, we knew it was going to be bad. You and I talked about this a long time ago. That when the mass deportation that Americans voted for commenced, the left would lose their minds. And they are losing their minds. They are turning to violence, political violence. Yesterday was an act of political violence. Utah was an act of political violence. Butler, Pennsylvania was an act of political violence. The left is embracing and utilizing political violence. No way around that. You can spin it all you want. I got a montage here from MSNBC about how they tried to pretend that maybe, just maybe, the guy that shot and killed an illegal yesterday outside a Dallas ICE facility wasn't really a leftist. It's comical. I don't even want to stain the airwaves with that garbage from MSNBC. It's all they got. It's all they got. So the group of college kids began peppering Phil with questions about what we believe as conservatives and Republicans and what the Trump administration is doing. And Phil said the common theme from a lot of these, you know, wide-eyed young people is why can't the right have more compassion with this mass deportation process? Why can't Trump be more compassionate? Why can't there be more empathy for a family of five from Venezuela who has been rounded up and shipped back to Venezuela? The optics of it all is what these kids kept talking about. And it's a fair question. I mean, the problem with even entertaining the question though is that I don't want you to think that any of us believe that political violence and terrorism should result in a policy change. There will be no policy change. The Trump administration isn't going to say, well, yeah, you know, the left is mad at the mass deportations, so we're going to stop doing it. No, no, it's not going to work that way. In fact, the political violence, these acts of terrorism will probably compel the Trump administration to double down. Just like Charlie's murder is leading people to go to churches. And we're having a nationwide revival. And many people are being drawn to Christ and to God in a way that they hadn't prior to that young Charlie Kirk being our colleague and our friend being assassinated on a college campus in Utah. You see, the political terrorism that the 22-year-old in Utah attempted, while horrific for this country, is also a way to show some clarity. It's also backfiring. It's also resulting in unintended consequences. And these are consequences for the left because they don't want people to go to church. They don't want people to be unified. They don't want people to find peace. That's the antithesis of political violence and political terrorism. So let's look at whether we can find common ground. I have a wide circle of people in my life, and I've got plenty of people in my life who don't agree with me politically. I don't hate them for that. Some of them hate me for that. And it hurts my heart because a lot of them know me. They know what kind of person I am. They know that I don't like us to be butting heads all the time. I was married to a Democrat. And I miss Denise every day. And I don't know if there can be common ground today with people on the left. Often when somebody calls the show to disagree with me, it goes off the rails. And I hate that. I hate that. The caller is typically defensive. The caller is always ready to interrupt everything I say. It's like watching Scott Jennings on CNN. They don't let him get five words out before they all gang up on him. Well, that's what happens a lot of times with a caller who wants to disagree with me. So when a caller comes along that wants to disagree with me and it goes well, I treasure that moment. I relish that. And yesterday, the caller's name was Law. And I liked the exchange with him so much that I wanted to play it for you again, especially in case you missed it. Here's Law in Springfield, Missouri on the Mike Gallagher Show. Hi, Law. How are you?
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Mike, are you there?
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I'm right here. How are you?
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Hey, thanks for having me on your show. You bet. I'm a first-time listener to your show, and I keep changing the stations, and all I hear is this mean vitriol from everybody, and everyone's taking a side. I wish you would have watched Jimmy Kimmel last night because it was very touching. Did he apologize? Well, we do need to come. I'm sorry? Did he apologize? Absolutely. No, he said if anybody. That's not true. Yes, he did. If anybody misconstrued my remarks, I apologize.
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Here's what I want to do here. And I want to well, first of all, I want to welcome you because I appreciate very much you calling. I always love the respectful dialogue. I welcome you to the show. You're a first-time listener. But do you understand that either you're lying intentionally when you said he used the words, I apologize, or you don't know any better? He did not apologize, Law. He absolutely did not. So why are you saying he did? It would have been easy. If he apologized... I'm right there with you. If he was able to say, I apologize. Two little words. I'm sorry. I apologize. I shouldn't have said that the guy was MAGA. Because you know he said the guy was MAGA when he wasn't. And he knew better. All he had to do was say, I'm sorry. And he couldn't do that, Law. Why is that?
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Yes, he could. You could. All right. Maybe he didn't say the actual word of Paul. I'd have to rewatch it. And the attention that I got, the guy was crying. Oh, was he crying? Talking about Charlie Kirk and how it was misconstrued. And all he said. He misconstrued it. He misconstrued it, Law. He said the guy was anything but their own. That's all he said.
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He said MAGA spent the whole weekend trying to pretend he wasn't one of their own. That's what he said, Law. Come on, we've got to go at these things with truth and with facts. You can't make stuff up, sir. It is the truth. I just told you exactly what he said.
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That's right, that he was one of us, MAGA. And that was a lie. And so now, and let's talk about the ramification. It's not a lie. It is a lie. It was an absolute.
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All right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got a hard break, but I don't want to lose you. Don't go away, okay? You want to hang in? All right. All right. So we did have a break like we have one now, but I want you to hear the continuation of my call yesterday with law because it was good. It was positive. It was productive. And I want to share it with you because it gets better. It really does. It kind of started out a little bumpy. But it actually got to a good place, and I want to share the rest of that with you.
In this enlightening episode of The Flatline, Rick Hughes explores how Christians can grow in grace and knowledge while navigating life's challenges. Learn about the essential problem-solving devices for Christian living, the significance of being filled with the Holy Spirit, and the scriptural mandates that guide believers in their daily walk with God.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next 30 minutes, please stick around. It'll be a short time of some motivation, some inspiration, some education, and we say at every show, no manipulation. That's right. We're not trying to con you for money. We're not trying to solicit membership. We're just trying to give you some accurate information that can help you verify and identify God's plan for your life. If I'm able to do that, you can orient and adjust to the plan whenever you feel like it. I hope you will. I hope you will make it a priority in your life to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ because the single greatest decision you could ever make in your life is to accept Christ as your Savior. And so if you've never done that, that's my prayer that you would do that by listening to this show and be encouraged to learn the things that God has done for you through the cross and what Jesus Christ supplied for you. And that's total forgiveness and a new life and a new opportunity to live your life all over again. Before we get started, let me remind you, as the new year comes through, we have great new books for you. A new book in the Crash Course in Christianity we've reprinted, and it's free. All of our materials are free. We don't charge for anything. We're not selling anything. We have a lot of different bookmarks. One of them that's been very popular is 10 Reasons Why Your Prayers Are Not Answered. And if you'll get in touch with us through the website, rickhughesministries.org. That's rickhughesministries.org. We'll be glad to send you any of these if you so choose. The new book on Christian Problem Solving is available as well. It lists all 10 problem-solving devices. That's what my pastor taught me years ago, and I reteach it constantly on this radio show, because it's the secret to living the Christian life and fulfilling God's plan for you. Today, as we head into the new year, I want to talk to you about obedience. obedience. In the New Testament book of Acts, we find Dr. Luke writing to a man named Theophilus. And this is actually the second of his writings. He wrote the book of Luke and now the book of Acts. And so two of his books that he wrote, two letters that he wrote, made it into the canon of Scripture. And here in this book of Acts, Luke accounts for the first 30 years of the church being established, as well as giving the accounts of the life of the Apostle Paul. But it's here that we learn how the gospel spread after the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ and the persecution that the apostles faced as they talked about it. And specifically, Luke writes about the life of Peter as he evangelized his Jewish brethren, as well as Paul when he carried the good news to the Greeks or the Gentiles. Here's what Paul said to the Gentiles. He said in Romans 1.16, I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Christ because it, it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. The power of God is the gospel, the death, burial, and resurrection of our Savior. That's where the power is. And when you believe that, whoever believes that, that's when you become a Christian. He that believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. And he that believeth not, the wrath of God abides on him already. That's quoting from the Bible. Quoting from the Bible, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. You don't have to go forward. You don't have to go backwards. You don't have to raise your hand. You don't have to stand up. You just have to believe. And that's what the Lord Jesus Christ made plain. They didn't believe he was a Messiah. Many of the religious Pharisees, Sadducees rejected his claim. And so in order to become a Christian, you believe that he went to the cross, he died for you, he paid the sin penalty for you, and you accept that and you express that belief in prayer to the Father by simply telling him, I believe that Jesus Christ is your anointed son, and I'm willing to accept him as my savior. That's what it is. That's how you get saved. That's what I did. It's what anybody does, regardless of what someone else may tell you. But in the early stages of the Apostle Peter's ministry, we find he's very bold to proclaim Jesus Christ was the Messiah. That didn't go over too well among the religious crowd. They hated him for that, especially the Orthodox Jewish leaders. So let me read to you what went on in Acts 5, verses 17 and 18. Then the high priest rose up, and all those who were with him, which is the Sadducees, And they were filled with indignation. There's another word for that. You can figure out what that means. They were PO'd. And they laid, let me roll these notes over. They laid hands on the apostles and put them in a common prison. And here the disciples were forewarned about this. Jesus had already told them that was gonna happen. In John 16, verses two through three, this is what the Lord Jesus Christ told them before he departed. Quote, they will put you out of the synagogue. Yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think he's offering God's service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor me. So it wasn't any surprise what happened to Peter when he wound up in prison because he was talking about Jesus being the Messiah. But in the middle of this opposition, The apostle Peter did not back down even though he was arrested for disobeying the commands of the synagogue. So they put him in prison with the common prisoners and an angel of the Lord appeared to him and opened the gates and took Peter and those that were with him out and told him to go back into the temple and to continue proclaiming that Jesus whom they crucified was indeed the true Messiah. And so when the high priest learned that they had been released from the prison, They immediately ordered them to be rearrested. And once they got them back in custody, they brought them back before the high council. And this is what they said. The captain went with the officers and brought them without any violence because they feared the people lest they should be stoned. So they didn't rough them up. They were worried about the people getting mad at them. And when they brought him, they set him before the council. And here's all these self-righteous religious people. The high priest asked them, did we not strictly tell you not to teach in this name and took you and though you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrines and intend to bring this man's blood on us? But Peter and the other apostles answered and said, we must obey God rather than man. This is what I want to proclaim to you today. We must obey God rather than man. Peter went on to say, the God of our fathers raised up Jesus, who you crucified, who you murdered by hanging on a tree. And it's him that God has exalted to his right hand to be prince and savior and to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sin. And we are his witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey him. So let's keep that in mind. We must obey God rather than men. This is for you as well and for me. Obedience is something that we have to learn. Here's some principles that I want to remind you of. obedience to God is mandated in the scriptures. In 1 John 5, 3, the Bible says, this is the love of God that we keep his mandates and they are not hard, they're not a burden, that we obey him. We keep his mandates and they are not a burden. God is not going to ask you to do something you cannot do. He's not going to ask you to sacrifice something you can't afford to sacrifice. As a matter of fact, the Bible promises he will not put more on you than you can stand. But the Bible is very clear that God the Father expects you to obey him. Even our Lord Jesus Christ had to be obedient to God the Father's plan. Listen to Philippians 2.8. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient, there's the word, even to the point of death, the death of the cross. So in order to be obedient, it requires some humility, and that's what our Lord Jesus Christ was noted for. He humbled himself and became obedient. It wasn't exactly an exciting venue to come to the earth and go to the cross and be crucified, but it was the Father's plan, and that's exactly what the Son did. So number three, each one of us have our own volition, and it's here that we either obey God's mandates or we disobey. Volitional responsibility is the word you need to become familiar with. Volitional responsibility. And the Bible says in Galatians 6, 7, don't be deceived. God will not be mocked because whatever a man sows, this he's also going to reap. So disobedience is a sin. We can all agree on that. There's no problem there. We know that disobedience to God is a sin. And so what exactly are we supposed to obey? This is where it gets a little tricky because some people want to pile things on you that are not in the scripture. Some people will tell you it's a sin to smoke. The Bible doesn't say it's a sin to smoke. Some people will tell you it's a sin to dance. The Bible doesn't say it's a sin to dance. Some people will tell you it's a sin to drink. The Bible doesn't say it's a sin to drink. The Bible does comment on these things, but to the abuse of them, not the fact that it's whether you did that or not. So we make sins out of a lot of things that may not be sins. And so I could go on and on and on about that, but let me tell you things that are sin. Let me set the record straight here. So here's what we can agree on. Ephesians 5.18, be filled with the Spirit. That's a command from God through the Apostle Paul. If we disobey God, then we are not filled with the Spirit. And that means you're either spiritual or you're either carnal. Right now, this very moment that you're listening to me, you're either in fellowship with God or you're out of fellowship with God. So the question is, why does God demand this and how do we do this? Well, the first problem-solving device is called rebound. 1 John 1.9 says if we confess our sin, he, God, is faithful and just to forgive us of our sin and to purify us from all wrongdoing. When we sin, we quench the Holy Spirit if we're believers. When we sin, we shut down his power in our life and we grieve the Holy Spirit. But when we go to the Father and we do exactly what 1 John 1 says, if we name our sin to God, then he's faithful and just to forgive us. There's no sense trying to hide it, no sense trying to act like he didn't do it. Go ahead and admit it. I just lied. I just lusted. I just this. I just that. Whatever you did, tell the Father. And he will be faithful. He'll do it every time. And he will be just. He doesn't compromise his righteousness for forgiving you. He'll be faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness. That means you're back in fellowship. That means that's how you're filled with the Holy Spirit. You're indwelled with the Holy Spirit the moment you believe in Christ. you're sealed with the holy spirit the moment you believe in christ you're filled with the holy spirit the moment you believe in christ but you can quench the filling of the holy spirit you don't lose the ceiling you don't lose the indwelling but you can quench the holy spirit and grieve the holy spirit and become carnal and fleshly by sinning so why were we supposed to be filled with the spirit because this is the only way we can truly replicate the life of christ When the Bible talks about stop thinking in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think, but think in terms of humility, as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word, this is what it requires. We must have some humility to be obedient to the plan of God. And you cannot live the Christian life, you cannot learn the Christian life, you cannot execute the Christian life unless you're filled with the Holy Spirit. Anything else is just energy of the flesh. Being moral is a good thing. Being nice is a good thing. Being polite is a good thing. But even unbelievers can do that. But no one believer can live the Christian life by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit. Only you can do that. And if you don't, then all the good works you do, all the good deeds that you do, all the money you gave, all the times you sang in the choir, all the visits you made, That winds up being wood, hay, and stubble and burned up at the judgment seat of Christ in 1 Corinthians chapter three. That's why it's critical that you are filled with the Holy Spirit. That's why it's critical you understand how to be filled with the Holy Spirit. You cannot grow unless you're filled with the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit intercepts the word as your pastor teaches it to you and helps you to recognize truth and understand truth And then you, by faith, have to apply truth. So we have a communicator that communicates the truth to you called a qualified pastor. And the Holy Spirit helps you to capture that information that he gives it to you. And then you comprehend it, and then you comply with it. It's essential that you understand that. Because the Lord Jesus Christ said, happiness belongs to people who hear my Father's word and keep it. So if you're sitting in church and not hearing, you're wasting your time and the pastor's time if you're not paying attention. The most rude thing you can do in church is to talk while the pastor's teaching, to not pay attention, to check your cell phone, to look at your messages. That's rude, and that's wrong. And so I would suggest you park that thing until you get out of there. All right, so the filling of the Holy Spirit is critical for the believer to understand. If it's not obeyed, the Christian life becomes a charade, going through the motions, but you'll have no impact in time and certainly no impact in eternity. So obedience, again, back to that word, it requires you submitting to authority. All of that starts in the home. Everywhere starts in the home. Obedience starts in the home. It's mandated in divine institution number three, the family. In Ephesians 6, one through three, the Bible says, children, obey your parents in the Lord. There's obedience. For this is right. Honor your father and your mother, which is the first mandate with a promise that if you will do this, You can live a long time on this earth. So here's a promise. If you get authority orientation and you learn to obey authority, you won't shorten your life. If you don't, if you can't handle authority, chances are you will shorten your life because you'll do something stupid. So children, obey your parents and the Lord. It doesn't mean you have to like them. Now listen, let me make one thing clear. If your parents tell you you need money, go down and rob the liquor store. Don't do that. That's a sin, that's wrong, that's child abuse. But if they tell you to clean your room up, if they tell you to take a bath, take a shower, if they tell you to change underwear, you have to do that. You have to learn to obey your parents. And a lot of parents today don't want to enforce discipline, but if you don't enforce discipline, they never respect authority. And the Bible is clear. Fathers, do not dishonor your children. Don't provoke them to wrath. Bring them up in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord. That means those two words, nurture and admonition, means to put something in their mind or something on their fanny. One of the two ways they're gonna respond to authority. But it has to start in the home. Divine institution number three, the family, is where we learn obedience by respecting authority. So without learning authority orientation, any child that doesn't will enter into the adult world as a misfit. And he or she will be maladjusted to society because they couldn't handle the authority of their parents. They won't be able to handle the authority of the police officer. They won't be able to handle the authority of the principal. They won't be able to handle the authority of their boss because they'll always be self-centered. They'll always be arrogant and justifying why they're right and the rest of the world is wrong. It's sad to watch people like that. So self-centered arrogance will destroy someone because they can't be obedient to God's plan. Now, that's a problem in America today. You know it and I know it. We have a real problem with authority because a lot of people react rather than respond. Here's something you need to remember. Authority is not always perfect. Authority can make mistakes. And how you handle it is a different story. I heard a story, I don't know if it's true or not, I believe it is because I did ask the daughter, but there was a coach named Bum Phillips who used to coach in the Orleans Saints and the Houston Oilers. And during his tenure as coach at Beaumont High School, he whipped a child for something the child didn't do. And he thought the kid was cursing a teacher. There were a lot of kids standing around and one of them was mouthing off cursing his teacher and he heard it. He grabbed this boy, took him down to the office and laid the board to him and said, don't ever talk like that again. If I hear you talk like that again, you're out of here. You ought to be on the team. It took 10 years before the kid finally told him, you whipped the wrong person. And Bob was really upset about it, and he said, I'm so sorry, why didn't you tell me? And the guy told him, look, coach, I just kept my mouth shut. Wasn't no big deal. I figured I could handle it. Don't worry about it. See, most people that are arrogant and self-centered would throw a fit if they got whipped for something they didn't do. They can't handle it because they don't have any humility. Remember what our Lord Jesus Christ did? He humbled himself and went to the cross. He didn't get mad. He didn't lose his temper. He didn't say, I'm going to kill every one of you people that are crucifying me. He didn't call the angels down to zap them right there. He went and he obeyed. You have to learn, even authority is not perfect. And then when authority mistreats you, if you get pulled over for something you didn't do, the police officer stops you. You can react and get mad, get self-centered, justify why you're right and the police officer's wrong, or you can just keep your mouth shut, take it, and move on down the road. Nobody's perfect. No boss is perfect. No parents are perfect. No police officer's perfect. You can be if you have some humility. To what I mean respond, I mean forgive them. Respond with forgiveness. Isn't that what God did for you? God forgave you. Doesn't he forgive you for your sin? He doesn't get mad. He doesn't react. He doesn't stomp you out. Why can't you do the same thing? Because of your arrogance. So we do have a real problem with authority in America. A lot of people don't like the police officer, don't like what he stands for. They think he's wrong. They think he's overbearing. And in some cases that may be true, but not all cases, very few indeed. So you have to learn to either react or respond to authority. obedience will respond and if the authorities wrong you forgive them if authorities wrong and you react then you're wrong here's another mandate that requires obedience found in the Bible very clearly in second Peter 318 grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ That's a requirement. That's obedience must take place here. You are told to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So evidently, When we get saved, we are not born again as mature believers. 1 Peter 2 says, as newborn babies desire the pure milk of the word so that you may grow thereby. God wants you to grow, but you have to start off with the milk. You don't start off with the deeper doctrines, imputation, justification, sanctification. You don't start off with all of that. You start off with those 10 unique problem-solving devices, learning how to be filled with the Holy Spirit, learning how to operate under the face rest drill, learning what grace orientation and doctrinal orientation are, developing your personal sense of destiny, developing a personal virtuous love for God and using impersonal love with others. Learning how to share the happiness of God and being occupied with Christ. 10 unique problem-solving devices. It requires you learning them. This is how we grow up. So we're not born mature believers. We have to learn. I mean, when I got saved, I went to Bible college and they gave me a test with 100 different questions. I answered one. What color is the Bible? Black. Okay, you got that right. I didn't know anything about the Bible. I just never went to church. And then I got saved and went back to college, went back to a Bible college and had to learn, learn about the Bible, learn what God wrote and learn how to apply it into my life. You know, it's a shame, but some people have been saved for years, but they've never obeyed this mandate to grow up spiritually. In Hebrews 5, verses 11 through 16, the Bible says this, We have much to say, but it's hard to explain since you've become dull of hearing, which means you're not interested. For though by this time you ought to be a teacher, in fact you need someone to teach you again the very first basics of the Word of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food. For anyone who partakes only of the milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness. He's just a baby. Solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that's mature. That is those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. And you may think that means nice and bad, and it doesn't. Good and evil are both tactics of the devil. Human good, divine good, evil is the opposite of grace. There's a lot to be said right there. I could take that and teach on that for a long time. So you have to learn what evil is. Evil is a copy of the original. And good can be divine good or human good. You have to understand these things in the Christian life. So here's another principle, obedience. Adam and Eve committed the first act of disobedience in the Bible recorded in Genesis 2, 16. The Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree in the garden you can freely eat, but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, do not eat it. For in the day that you eat that, you will surely die. That was the first sin. And the Bible says, For by one man sin came into the world, and death by sin. And then Romans 13, 3 through 4, this passage says, Avoid civil disobedience. Civil disobedience and unlawful violence is bad. It's wrong. And you'll be protected by the client nation and the laws of divine establishment if you'll avoid that. We do have a civil responsibility, such as military service, paying our taxes, fulfilling certain civic responsibilities like voting, but this does not include violence, does not include destruction of property, does not include intrusion on the privacy of other people, or any form of civil disobedience. We are to obey the government. Civil disobedience is what we call moral degeneracy. It's when you use force to get your way, to get what you want. We call that crusader arrogance. And it's the righteous indignation out of control. It ignores the honorable and the judicial system to regress our grievances. The crusader believes in vigilante solutions which bypass the government law and order. Hence, crusader arrogance practices and advocates civil disobedience. Can't do that. That's wrong. So whatever sin you've committed before your salvation is an act of disobedience. And listen to what the Bible says about all of your disobedience before you became a Christian. Isaiah 43, 25. I, even I, am the one who blots out your sins for my own sakes. Therefore, I will never remember your transgressions. What a wonderful promise that is. So when God's children become disobedient, God can discipline to correct us. In Hebrews 12, 11, for the moment, all discipline seems not to be pleasant, but painful, yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness. So there are hundreds and hundreds of divine mandates about obedience in the Bible. Ephesians 5.22, wives obey your husbands. 1 Peter 3.7, you husbands in the same way live with your wives in understanding way as with someone weaker since she is a woman and show her honor and as a fellow heir of the grace of life so that your prayers will not be hindered. Husbands love your wives, Ephesians 5.25. Ephesians 4.32, be kind to one another. 2 Timothy 2.15, be diligent to present yourself approved to God. A workman does not need to be ashamed. Over and over and over, the Bible demands obedience. I hope you're listening. I hope you will look at your life and decide, have I been obedient to the plan of God? If you need more information about this, don't hesitate to contact us. We'll be glad to send you any material, copies of this message, transcripts, whatever you need. Thank you for giving me some time today. I hope you've enjoyed this message. Until next week, when I get back, same time, same place, same station. This is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you so very much for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
This episode dives into the controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel's recent non-apology, exploring its implications on public discourse. Simultaneously, we explore the rise of political violence in the country, pondering its roots and repercussions. As technology marches forward, discover the emerging future with driverless cars and learn about the notable guests at the Charlie Kirk Memorial.
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Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast. This is Friday, September 26, 2025. This week, we go to Glendale, Arizona, the site of the Charlie Kirk Memorial. We went there. As you know, we'll hear from the newly reinstated Jimmy Kimmel. We'll assess the crisis of political violence in America. It's been a busy, heartbreaking, difficult week. Let's begin at State Farm Stadium in Arizona and hear some of the people who worked with Charlie Kirk at Turning Point USA. What? Here's the chief operating officer for Turning Point USA, Justin Streif.
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He started with nothing more than an idea and a folding table. And over 13 years with time and courage and faith, he built a movement that changed the world. Now that Charlie's gone, what happens next? It's up to us. Time is fleeting, but the decisions we make here right now are eternal. So let us honor Charlie by doing what he did. Stand for truth. Confront evil. Live courageously. And we do it the way that Charlie did. With compassion. But never compromising on truth. Demanding the best from ourselves, from each other, and from our country. Charlie reminded us that courage requires only a yes. And he said yes every single day. And now it's our turn. It's our turn to say yes, to speak boldly, speak honestly, to fight for our families, to love our country, to honor God, and to wisely use the time that we've been given. And it's to do for the next generation what Charlie did for us. Because this, all of this, right here and right now, is our turning point. We love you, Charlie, and we won't let you down.
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Well done, Justin. You know, for those of us who had the privilege and blessing of knowing Charlie personally, we all know how humble he was. You know, pretty heady stuff for a 31-year-old to be atop of a major organization like Turning Point USA. And look, he lived a good life. 31 years of age, beautiful home, beautiful wife, children. lived kind of a jet-setting lifestyle, but remained extraordinarily humble always and was committed to helping everyone he could. Stacey Sheridan is someone who worked for Turning Point USA and talked about that loving, helpful spirit, that servant's heart that Charlie Kirk possessed.
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In 2022, my husband Mike became sick with cancer. Two years later, that cancer took his life. Throughout those two years, Charlie called me consistently to ask how he could help us. At one point, he had critical medication and an oxygen machine sent to my doorstep without my knowledge. I still to this day have no idea how he made that happen. But that was Charlie. He did the right thing. There was no limit to how far he'd go to help a friend. He wasn't looking for publicity or credit. He did it because that's what a leader does. That's what a friend does. And that's what a Christian is supposed to do. Sometimes I would express guilt to Charlie that I couldn't do my job at 100%. Charlie's response every single time was family first.
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A few months ago, there was an event in Tampa Bay with a bunch of our sponsors and advertisers. And I was at the event, and Andrew Colvette, who is the executive producer of Charlie's show, the Charlie Kirk show, was at that event, at that dinner. In fact, I sat with Andrew. And Andrew stood up and said that it's been repeated a lot that Charlie grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh. But Andrew told the group that Charlie loved talk radio and also grew up listening to Mike Gallagher. That touched my heart so deeply, and I keep thinking about that graciousness of Andrew Colvette, who is absolutely hurting over the loss of his friend. And Andrew did a wonderful job in helping the Salem family navigate through everything this week. And we're praying for Andrew, and of course we're praying for everybody at Turning Point. But Andrew, who's well-known to Charlie Kirk Show audiences, spoke as well on the future of the Charlie Kirk Show.
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We've been worshiping, we've been singing, we've been joyful. Our hearts are grieving, but we do not grieve as the world grieves. Because it says in scripture, oh death, where is your victory? Oh death, where is your sting? Christ has overcome death. And Charlie, we are so grateful for the harvest that your life and legacy is producing all around us. And you can see it. The workers. There's a whole lot more workers than there were before. And so let me leave you with this. For all the fans of the Charlie Kirk show out there, you'll know the line. We will see you Monday. Until then, buckle up. Here we go. Thank you. God bless you.
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Great job, Andrew. And again, thanks for your hospitality this week. Jimmy Kimmel returned to the airwaves this week from what turned out to be a brief indefinite suspension. So did he apologize for lying about Republicans and Charlie Kirk? Don't hold your breath. I just saw Scott Jennings' reaction to Jimmy Kimmel. Scott Jennings, of course, our Salem Radio Network colleague and CNN contributor. I'm sure a lot of people are wondering what Jimmy Kimmel said last night. I can spare, I can break it down in four words. He refused to apologize. He refused to apologize for lying about Charlie Kirk's assassin. He refused to say two little words. I'm sorry. It's all he had to say. And this story becomes a non-story. Instead, he cried and he said, I didn't mean what people think I meant. Well, let me play the clip for you. And then I'll give you Scott Jennings' always succinct response to the crocodile tears non-apology from Jimmy Kimmel last night on ABC TV.
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I've been hearing a lot about what I need to say and do tonight. And the truth is, I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference. If you like me, like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram of the day he was killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion. And I meant it. I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset. If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way. I have many friends and family members on the other side who I love and remain close to, even though we don't agree on politics at all. I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution. And it It isn't. Ever. And also selfishly... I am a person who gets a lot of threats. I get many ugly and scary threats against my life, my wife, my kids, my co-workers because of what I choose to say. And I know those threats don't come from the kind of people on the right who I know and love. So that's what I wanted to say on that subject. But I don't want to make this about me because and I know this is what people say when they make things about them. But I really don't. This show. This show is not important. What is important is that we get to live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.
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I will tell you that I rarely, if ever, disagree with my friend and colleague, Chris DeGaulle. Chris precedes me on many stations around the country. Chris's take was, well, that's as close to an apology as we're going to get, so I accept what Jimmy Kimmel said. And look, you can accept or reject anything you want. This is, of course, America. I'm just so fascinated by how casual people are about someone's refusal to apologize. There's two little words. And the only reason Jimmy Kimmel didn't utter those two little words is because he didn't want to be accused of bending the knee to Donald Trump. He did lie about Trump. the killer of Charlie Kirk. He did smear more than half of the country by suggesting, by making light of the fact that, in his words, we were all spending the weekend trying to distance ourselves from one of our own who killed Charlie Kirk. And I just have to respectfully say to my friend Chris, don't accept a non-apology. Accept an apology. It's not hard to do. I'm sorry. I had the facts wrong. I jumped to conclusions. Say it. Say I'm sorry. It's not hard. It's not hard. It's not tough. It's not tricky. If you refuse to apologize, and let me read for you the great Scott Jennings' response. His answer to what you just heard from Jimmy Kimmel last night, Scott Jennings wrote, you used the phrase MAGA gang, and then you lied about what happened. You definitely intended to make light of it, and you misled the American people. Pathetic! And that's the perfect, appropriate, spot-on response. Jimmy Kimmel's monologue last night was pathetic. And it was pathetic because he is refusing to apologize. I mean, there's no way he thinks factually he was correct. There's no way factually he thinks he's on solid ground. And in case you don't know, I mean, it's on tape. It's not like we can memory hole what he said. Here's what he said originally that got him in all the hot water with the Sinclair and Nexstar ABC affiliates.
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We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
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Ah, yeah. I didn't... You thought that I was trying to say that it was an ideology that spurred him on? You think I was making... You hear the audience laughing. I wasn't making light of anything. That's pathetic. All he had to do was say, I'm sorry. Let's go back to Arizona to hear from two standout leaders who worked for the president at the White House. Wow. Was Stephen Miller on fire? Here he was yesterday, the White House deputy chief of staff, with passion and fire in his belly, paying tribute to his friend Charlie.
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The light will defeat the dark. We will prevail over the forces of wickedness and evil. They cannot imagine what they have awakened. They cannot conceive of the army that they have arisen in all of us. Because we stand for what is good, what is virtuous, what is noble. And to those trying to incite violence against us, those trying to foment hatred against us, what do you have? You have nothing. You are nothing. You are wickedness. You are jealousy. You are envy. You are hatred. You are nothing. You can build nothing. You can produce nothing. You can create nothing. We are the ones who build. We are the ones who create. We are the ones who lift up humanity. You thought you could kill Charlie Kirk? You have made him immortal. You have immortalized Charlie Kirk. And now millions will carry on his legacy. And we will devote the rest of our lives to finishing the causes for which Charlie gave his last measure of devotion. You cannot defeat us. You cannot slow us. You cannot stop us. You cannot deter us. We will carry Charlie and Erica in our heart every single day and fight that much harder because of what you did to us. You have no idea the dragon you have awakened. You have no idea how determined we will be to save this civilization, to save the West, to save this republic.
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Susie Wiles is the White House Chief of Staff. She is described as the real, the core, the glue that holds the White House together. Tough lady. Daughter of Pat Summerall, the great sportscaster. She doesn't give a lot of speeches, but she did a beautiful job yesterday.
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When the President's 2024 campaign partnered with Turning Point, Charlie did not just promise, he delivered. Charlie and his team embraced the assigned mission completely, and they didn't meet expectations. They shattered them and blew them out of the water. President Trump's victory, winning the popular vote in every swing state, was powered by young people. Most brand new to politics. That was Charlie's army, and he made sure they understood the stakes. They outworked, they out-hustled, and out-performed everyone else. Charlie just didn't help. He made the winning difference. I promise you that.
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What a joy it was to be able to attend the memorial yesterday. Many say the assassination of Charlie sparked a spiritual revival in America. Our friend Mike Lindell from MyPillow believes that's exactly what America needs. We've had callers say that their loved ones have accepted Jesus. Mike, a lot of people are saying that Charlie's assassination is leading to a spiritual revival. Number one, do you believe that too? And number two, do you see it happening as well? Do you think we're experiencing the beginning of a nationwide revival?
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I think this just expanded a thousandfold. We were already in, I believe, this revival. I've said it for the last four years. People don't look to God when things are going good. They usually look to God and Jesus when things are going bad. And that's what's happened over the last four and a half years or five years. And with Charlie's assassination, it is beyond anything I could imagine. I mean, you watch from around the world revivals going on in all these other countries. But then to sit here and watch this event, I'm going to call it an event. It's a revival event. I mean, that's what they mean. Every speaker, the people that have the courage now to use Jesus Christ in there and to speak about him, people that you then think, They didn't even know Jesus, and they were on that stage talking about him. And everybody's not afraid to put their faith out there. Remember what Charlie said, everybody. One of the last things he said when they asked him, what would you like to be remembered if you were killed or died? And he said, die. And he said, well, if I did die, I would like to be remembered for the courage for my faith and to speak out for Jesus. And that's what's happened to me. This is the biggest revival, I believe, in history. It's just, and it's not going to stop. You get, you know, this is so amazing. You could feel it. Almost every speaker, I'm going, well, I wonder if, you know, Don Jr. is going to talk about this. I wonder if, you know, Pozo. I mean, all these different people that spoke, and they're all speaking about Jesus Christ and how, and what Charlie was saying. You know, God uses all things for good, but this one is massive, absolutely massive, that it's awoken everyone. Like I've said it before the last four years, if you're an evangelist, if you're a pastor, if you couldn't get people to the Lord, you know, people are longing to have hope, and that hope is Jesus Christ. And now it just shows out there that, like, hey— You know, it just exploded. And it's going to continue to go on and on and on. And because of people aren't afraid to speak out and use the word Jesus Christ in there, you know, say, hey, this is how I got through. This is how I made it. This is how I got saved. And it's just so awesome. Remember, Mike, I said it before. God's given us grace for such a time as this. God's given us grace. And this is the grace we're getting that everyone can get as many people to the Lord as possible.
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For such a time as this, and as we conclude here, Mike, some breaking news, even as we're visiting with one another. Sinclair, that owns a big group of ABC affiliates, they operate 30 ABC affiliates. They said yesterday they will preempt Jimmy's show tonight. Well, next star. has just announced they will follow suit. Next Star is going to preempt ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Live, despite Disney ending the suspension. Next Star has 32 stations, so there's at least 62 stations that will not be carrying the Jimmy Kimmel show, which is going to really... It would be devastating for them as far as a business model. Let me close by a business model that I love because you're a blessing in my life, and my pillow is a blessing to the Mike Gallagher Show audience. And I am so proud to always see how our audience steps up for your company because they've tried. Look, all the big home shopping networks and the big box stores, they've kicked you out. They've deplatformed you. But not our audience. And you brought back the towels. I remember a couple of years ago, you said, Mike, I got tired of towels that don't absorb the water. Well, the MyPillow towels do. They're regularly priced. The six-piece towel set, $69.98 is the regular price, which is a good price. But now, for a limited time, you enter the promo code, MyPillow. $39.98. Two big bath towels, two hand towels, two washcloths, only $39.98 with the promo code MikeG. And Mike, it's about time towels actually work, right? You were tired of towels that weren't absorbing the water.
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One of the things he wants us to take away from this, from all of this, is the following. His deep belief... that we were all created, every single one of us, before the beginning of time, by the hands of the God of the universe, an all-powerful God, who loved us and created us for the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then sin entered the world and separated us from our creator. And so God took on the form of a man and came down and lived among us. And he suffered like men. And he died like a man. But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man. And then, and to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples so they could see and they touched his wounds. He didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but as flesh. And then he rose to the heaven, but he promised he would return. And he will. And when he returns, because he took on that death, because he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin that separated us from him. And when he returns, there will be a new heaven and a new earth. And we will all be together. And we are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love. Thank you and God bless you.
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Wow, wow, wow. I know Charlie loved Pete Hegseth, and Pete Hegseth, of course, the former Fox News host and now Secretary of War, clearly loved Charlie.
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Charlie Kirk was a citizen who had the biblical heart of a soldier of the faith, who put on every single day the full armor of God with a smile, as the scriptures tell all Christ followers to do. Charlie Kirk. a warrior for country, a warrior for Christ. He ran the race. He finished the fight. Now it's our turn. My charge to all of you, live worthy of Charlie Kirk's sacrifice and put Christ at the center of your life as he advocated for giving his.
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Sadly, if you're a Kennedy, you know all about assassinations. We know how much tragedy and violence has impacted the Kennedy family. So that's why I think it was very meaningful to listen to the Health and Human Services Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., talk about his friend, Charlie, from his perspective as a Kennedy.
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In one of my first conversations with Charlie in July of 2021, we were talking about the risks that all of us take when we challenge interest, the physical risk. And he asked me if I was scared of dying. And I said to him, there's a lot worse things than death. And one of those things is if we lost our constitutional rights in this country and that our children were raised as slaves. And I said to Charlie, I said, sometimes the best consolation we can hope for is that we get to die with our boots on. Well, Charlie died with his boots on. And he died to make sure that we didn't have to undergo those fates that are worse than death. Oh, let's remember Charlie. He was, for those of us who were friends with Charlie, we don't need any more evidence of the love of God. Because the evidence of friendship is the best evidence that God loves us all. Thank you and God bless you.
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RFK Jr., whose own father was felled by an assassin. We're left with an unavoidable question in the wake of Charlie's assassination and so many other instances of violence over the recent past. Where is it coming from and why is it happening? Throughout September, escalating clashes occurred between protesters and federal agents. You see, what happens when the left doesn't like what's happening, they turn to violence. And they commit acts of violence in a variety of ways. Maybe they'll kill one of the most prominent, successful, influential, young conservative influencers. A fellow that you know of, I'm sure you've heard of. The late Charlie Kirk. Maybe they'll shoot up an ICE facility. If there's an event that leads... to a massive response to a troubled man named George Floyd who died. Buildings are burned. Stores are looted. People are injured. People are killed. The left is desperate. The left is frantic. And frankly, they are becoming increasingly violent. Not really any way around that. 1-800-655-MIKE proved me wrong. Even the Atlantic yesterday, I was shocked. The Atlantic, big banner headline, left-wing violence has now surpassed the right-wing violence in America. Over the last few years, even the Atlantic forced to admit violence. that the political violence is coming from the left. If you consider the love affair that leftists have with monsters like Luigi Mangione, you understand what's happening in this country. When life is marginalized, when assassinations are glorified, When evildoers like Hamas are celebrated, all of this is coming from one side. So what do we do about it? If you're a Democrat, what do you have to say about it? I'm not trying to provoke you. I really would love to have a dialogue with you. In the spirit of Charlie Kirk, let's have a dialogue. When Hillary Clinton, just this morning, goes on MSNBC, just today, and says the following, do you think that doesn't contribute to the climate of violence that we're right now witnessing? Here was Hillary on Morning Joe.
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I view it as very dangerous. It is right out of the authoritarian playbook, Willie. I mean, this is, you know, this is point four of the authoritarian playbook. Silence your opponents. Cripple the media that doesn't give you the slavish attention and agreement that you desire.
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She's talking about that. She's talking, of course, about the Trump administration. She knows that just yesterday, Google executives told House lawmakers. that the Biden administration pressed them, censored, removed, deplatformed people whose content the Biden administration disagreed with. She knows that. She knows full well, just yesterday, that it was revealed and confirmed that the Biden administration absolutely censored people YouTube content and shut down people with their YouTube. Ask Seb Gorka. Ask Mike Lindell. Ask Dinesh D'Souza. Ask Steve Bannon. Ask anybody who got in the Biden administration's crosshairs. What did they do with those folks? They shut them down. They censored them. They deplatformed. This is the biggest story, incidentally, of the week. I could give a rat's rear end about Jimmy Kimmel. I'm so over even talking about Jimmy Kimmel. Some people want to. That's fine. That's all right. I don't want to discourage you. But at the end of the day, I could care less. I care about prominent Democrats who do matter. The governor of California should know better. A failed presidential candidate like Hillary Clinton, former Secretary of State, a former U.S. Senator, she should know better. And she does know better. but they don't have the integrity to speak the truth. You can't keep calling your political opponents tyrants and fascists without violence occurring. The visit to Phoenix was certainly a somber one, but we did manage to find a little fun. For example, driverless cars. My boss got a great ride to the airport yesterday morning in Phoenix. When I was leaving the hotel, I ran into Phil Boyce, and he was on his way to the airport. I said, let me get you one of these Waymos. He said, oh my gosh, one of the driverless cars? I said, yeah, let me do it. Phil just followed up. He sent a text to somebody, and he copied me on it. He said, the Waymo ride to the airport was fabulous. I was amazed at how effortlessly that car weaved through the traffic. Just before I got to the airport, on a three-lane road, I noticed another Waymo next to me and another one next to them. Three Waymos going to the airport simultaneously and all avoiding each other. Stunning. It's the future. I know that I talk about this crap too much. I mean, when I get excited about something. But I really am excited about... I mean, I take Uber all the time. Look, there's real consequences to these driverless cars, because all the drivers are going to be out of work. And I know that. I understand that. I'm sensitive to that. But I'm going to tell you, right now in Phoenix, in Las Vegas, I think in Atlanta now, Los Angeles, soon to be New York City, they're going to have these Waymo cars. And it's the most remarkable experience. You have the app. You summon the car. Car pulls up. It's got a big dome on the roof and all these. Here's what was crazy. I got on the plane last night, and there was a Vanity Fair in the seat pocket. I read this. I picked up Vanity Fair. There was a profile of the CEO of Waymo and the future of Waymo, one of these big Silicon Valley startups, you know? And her story is pretty inspirational. It's a female. I forget her name. She's like the co-CEO. But this is the future. This is what's going to happen. And I hate to break it to you. It's one of the smoothest rides, a lot smoother than a physical driver. I mean, I love Uber drivers and cab drivers and people that drive car services for a living. Hate to break it to you. You've been outdone by this technology. And I was reading, it's a lot about the battle between Google and Waymo and Tesla. Because Elon wants to do robo-taxis. Look, there's no comparison to these Waymo cars. And it's because of all of the extra layers of technology. They have radar. They have light sensors. They have darkness things on the sides of it. I mean, it looks almost like a little spaceship. It's a Jaguar. I don't know what the make is. But it is a really, look, I'm still stunned by that whole experience. And I'm intrigued about what the future will look like. And I, look, when Uber came along, like, for example, in New York City, the yellow cab drivers were really hurt by that. And I get that. And I hate it. I hate when the mom and pops get replaced by the big box stores. I hate it when a local talk show host gets replaced by a syndicated host. And I am. I'm aware of that, and I'm sensitive to that. But progress and technology marches on. And if you got in one of those cars, some of it is just the emotional factor. Can I get in the front or the back seat of a car with no driver? I posted on it on X. If you go to my X feed at Gallagher Show, I did a little video, a selfie video when I first got to Phoenix. And I took a Waymo all over town. I had a craving for an In-N-Out burger. No bun. Thanks to PhD weight loss. No bun. And you could still enjoy it. Had it wrapped. Had a lettuce wrap. I had to go to the pharmacy. I got in the Waymo. Took the Waymo to the airport yesterday. Summit it on the app, car pulls up, two, three, four minutes, and it's cheap. That's the best part. Hate to break it to you, Uber, but you got a real run for your money because if it's either $75 to go to the airport or $13 to take a Waymo, I'm taking the Waymo. Finally, let's hear the words of President Trump and Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow from the Charlie Kirk Memorial. What an incredible moment to see the President of the United States walk out to the podium and pay tribute to a young man who many acknowledge is probably the reason Donald Trump was re-elected. If it wasn't for Turning Point USA and Charlie's efforts to mobilize millions of young people all over the country, we'd probably be stuck with President Kamala Harris. Here is the 45th and 47th president yesterday paying tribute to his friend, Charlie Kirk.
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To Charlie's parents who lost their beloved son and to the entire Kirk family, we know that no words could ever be enough to fill the void he leaves behind. That's a void that just can't be filled. But I hope the extraordinary outpouring of emotion over these past 11 days has comforted you with the knowledge that your son brought more good and love into this world in his 31 short years than most people, even very, very successful people, can bring in a lifetime. Charlie Kirk loved America with everything he had. And as we can see so clearly today, America loved Charlie Kirk.
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And finally, finally, the moment that everybody is talking about as we endeavor today to play every single song. Speaker, for you on our coverage, Charlie's grieving widow, who now is going to take over the helm of Turning Point as the CEO. And the crowd gasped when she expressed the Christian tenant of forgiveness for the monster who slaughtered her husband.
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My husband, Charlie... He wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. That young man. That young man on the cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive them for they not know what they do. That man, that young man, I forgive him.
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That wraps up the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast for Friday, September 26th. Be sure to subscribe to all our podcasts. Follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. And if you like our show, share it with a friend. We'll see you back here next week for the Mike Gallagher Show Week in Review podcast.
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Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. All right, we are here. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Thank you all for listening. It's nice and sunny out today versus yesterday, so hopefully you're all in a better mood. Michael Bailey with me today during this first segment of our Health and Wellness Wednesday, and I always have Michael on during this time, A, because he's here right before me every Wednesday anyways from 2.30 to 3 with his own program, but on top of that, Yeah, this does involve – what Michael does does definitely involve health and wellness, and I say this a lot, making sure that you've got things dialed in prior to something happening to you. It may not be health and wellness for you specifically, but – But it's definitely health and wellness for those that either you leave behind, or in some cases, Michael, you're still around, but you can't make decisions on your own, and somebody else has to be doing that for you. And it's much better for everybody's health to get all that stuff handled on the front side versus trying to do it on the back side, which in some cases there is no back side.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. Well, and, you know, whether it's your mental health to have it done or their mental health or even their whole – It's just one of those things that you look at and you're like, when you know what's going to happen, you figure it out. It's a lot less daunting.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. And again, personal testimonies along these lines where having these things dialed in on the front side definitely makes life – let's just say this, Michael. It's already stressful. Those situations become very stressful in and of themselves. You're making decisions. You're doing some things you're really kind of last-minute thrown into. Nobody wants to be doing those things in the first place, but all of a sudden you are. And I know that having everything – set, done, handled. And for some of you listening, you're thinking, well, what's there to do? I can go online and make a will. Well, yeah, I suppose, Michael, you can. But I guess the question is, at the end of the day, have you done it correctly? And what kind of things you're going to run into if it's not done correctly?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, if it's not done correctly, you're going to have to do all the same things you do if it is done correctly. You're just going to have to do them on the court's timeline and according to the way that the state has dictated that your assets will go. And, you know, actually we were talking about this as we were coming up with new commercials. We're like, you know, can I think of the government as being the ultimate boogeyman since we're coming up on Halloween time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 18 :
And the government's going to be like, hey, this is how we think it should go. And the government doesn't know a dang thing about you or your life or who you wanted to go to. Or do you want it to go to your spouse? How about your kids? Maybe not to your spouse or to your kids for whatever reasons. Right. You don't want to be stuck with the default rules and trying to do things on the timelines of the courts with the default rules and figure out what the heck the default rules mean because they're 80 pages long if you print them out.
SPEAKER 17 :
There's other things that come up too, Michael, where people forget that maybe you think – that because you've been separated from your spouse for X amount of time, but you never officially got those divorce papers handled and signed, or you've got an estranged child, or whatever the case may be, let me tell you what, I can tell you from experience, that stuff comes out of the woodwork. Right. I mean, people show up out of nowhere, Michael.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right, or even what is a very common story, you... Set up, you know, you get everything set up and, you know, you married your high school sweetheart and then you buy a life insurance policy and then eventually you split and you find the next love of your life and you're married to them for 50 years and then you die and your life insurance policy has your high school sweetheart's name on it. Mm-hmm. Guess what? Your high school sweetheart is getting a whole bunch of money. Cool. Except for that's not probably what you wanted. Correct. And so it's just things that you don't think about, things that don't come up. And why would it come up? I mean, when's the last time you checked your life insurance beneficiaries?
SPEAKER 16 :
Me?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Every year? Every year. Yeah. But you know me. Show off. Because we talk about it so much that it's on my mind probably more than most people.
SPEAKER 18 :
But I bet if we asked Charlie or if we asked many of our listeners out there, they wouldn't say every year.
SPEAKER 17 :
I would venture to guess, Michael, there are some that set it and forget it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Is that really the answer, probably?
SPEAKER 18 :
Probably. Estate planning is not the old Ronco. Do you remember the Ronco?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, yes, I do.
SPEAKER 18 :
Like rotisserie oven. Set it and forget it. That's not how it works. And so... Whether it's life circumstances change or what happens if all you have named is your spouse and your spouse passes away before you. Well, then what happens? Well, it goes back into the default rules. Set up your kids. My brother, actually, he's informed me that he has me listed as the secondary beneficiary on his life insurance, which is very, very trusting of him. Because I would use the money to take care of his kids. But legally, it's mine. I don't have to do a darn thing with it besides take it and say, sorry, kids, you're on your own. I mean, I like my nieces and nephews, but I don't want to be put in that situation. I don't want to put somebody else in that situation where suddenly I'm like, oh, yes, yes, I did get a million dollars in life insurance. But, you know, you guys only need about $200,000 to be raised through adulthood. So I'm just going to keep the other $800,000. Sorry. I wouldn't do that. You wouldn't do that. But what if somebody fell on hard times and they get a life insurance payment when they're $200,000 behind on their mortgage? There's a huge temptation to use that. Great point. And you don't want to leave it up to chance and you want to say, no, you can't just use it for yourself. You've got to use it for the kids.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, so I don't think my family would mind. No, no, you're fine. I don't think my family would mind me saying this. We were going over a few things with my wife's mom last night. She brought up her, you know, medical power of attorney. And so my immediate question was, where's the others? And I get this kind of blank stare of, well, what do you mean? Where are the others? Well, there's others besides just medical, as you know, Michael. And so we're like, yeah, we probably need to further this along because there's other items we need here. This isn't all of what we need, right? Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
And you start with the four basic building blocks, the will, the financial power attorney, the medical power attorney, the living will. If there's more than you need from there, great. But if you don't have those four, you have a house with three walls. And today it would be great. Yesterday might be a little bit wet. So you don't want to get soaked here.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. So that was a great example of even internally, and we'll get this fixed. Never fear. We'll get this handled. But it was one of those questions of where's the rest of what we need? This is fine. This is great in one instance, but there's many other life instances that can come up, and we're not covered there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Sure, and I get calls from people all the time. Oh, well, I'm the power of attorney, but the bank says I can't talk to them. I'm like, okay, but I have medical power of attorney.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's not enough.
SPEAKER 18 :
The bank doesn't care if you have medical power of attorney because you're not at the bank making medical decisions. You're at the bank making financial decisions. Well, if you are, you have big problems. You're in trouble, yeah. Yeah. Right. And if you're at the doctor trying to say, oh, well, I've got financial power of attorney, they're going to be like, sorry.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. No, that's one thing. I don't know that you and I ever all the times we've been talking back and forth over all these years. I don't know that we've ever really mentioned that. I think there's a lot of people, maybe even some of you listening where you have a document and you think, well, I'm covered. I've got this. That's fine for that portion of what might come up, but it's not fine for all of the other things that might come up. Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
And each of the four basic building blocks has its own separate distinct purpose and reason to have it. And you want to have those people like, oh, well, I've got a will. I'm covered. I'm like, well, if you become incapacitated. Your will isn't going to let your named representative go access your assets to pay for life or make medical decisions.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. You have to be dead for it to work. Sorry. Long-term care, all those other things that might come into play.
SPEAKER 18 :
All of those things. That's right. That's why you set it up a certain way. Yeah. And, you know, we talk about the government being the ultimate boogeyman, but they set the rules. They're like, hey, you have to have this to be able to do X, Y, and Z. So we... So you've got to play by the rules. That's right. So that you can get what you want.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's exactly right. All right. How do folks get a hold of you? How far out are you on getting somebody in? Getting somebody in January of next year. Okay. So my thought is still call, get on the books, get things going. And that sounds like a long way off. And I was telling somebody this yesterday, and they were really shocked when I said this. I'm like, you know, we're not that far from Christmas. Right. And they looked at me like, huh? I'm like, think about it. We're almost into October already. You'll have Thanksgiving, and then it'll be Christmas. It's not that far away. No.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, we know how suddenly you're like, boom, boom, boom. You're like, you're done. So January to come see me, but let's get the new year started, right? That's cool. And phone number, 720-394-6887. Website, mobileestateplanning.com, or all the wonderful places we can find you.
SPEAKER 17 :
klzradio.com, rushtoreason.com, drive-radio.com. Any of those, by the way, you'll find Michael listed. He's been with me for a number of years now, and if you find me, you're going to find Michael. It's really that simple. And as always, Michael, thank you. I appreciate all you do for us and our listeners. Thanks for having me, Ken. Always a joy. All right, Veteran Windows and Doors coming up next. Cut out that middleman when it comes to windows and doors. Talk to Dave today. Just go to klzradio.com again to find him.
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SPEAKER 17 :
Back to Rush to Reason. And we are back. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Shanisty Ireland joining us now. Shanisty, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, John. I'm doing great. How are you today?
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm great. Always a joy to hear from you. And just real quick, I got to throw this in because for those listening that maybe don't know you like I do, Shanice, you have a very busy life, have lots of kids. I watched a video the other day of you and your life and so on. And I'm like, oh, my word, how in the world do you get everything done at the end of the day? Honestly, it's amazing.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, I don't sleep, but last night I actually slept for like the first time in a week. So, you know, I have to catch up every once in a while. I know this is Health and Wellness Wednesday, and your listeners probably don't want to hear that, but every once in a while I get caught up on my sleep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
But it's great and it's wonderful. And, you know, I love fall. I love this time of year. And I know we're getting into Halloween and all of the fall festivities. And it's just a great time, especially with kids and families, to just get out and enjoy the cooler temperatures. and do some of those fun activities.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and you're right. Everything from, and I know in our case, we can kind of cover all the bases. There's everything from, all right, there's fall. We've got kids. They're now back in school. We've got sporting events. We're running from here to there to everywhere. We've got football parties, tailgates. We've got Halloween, as you just mentioned. Reality is, Shanisty, for a lot of people, whether you have kids,
SPEAKER 10 :
kids at home and have families or whether you're like me and you now have grandkids and you're still going all sorts of places at the end of the day it's a busy time of the year for everybody it is and you know i i read something recently and it you know it can be so stressful and you can be so caught up in all of it and then when it's gone you you pine for it you wish you still had it so you know really taking in the moment and taking in the chaos and and really trying to slow down and really doing the simple things. You know, you don't have to have these fall festivities and these fall parties that are just unreal and that are going to break the bank. I promise you, especially if you have little kids or grandkids, doing something as simple as painting pumpkins or doing the old-fashioned pumpkin carving, those are memories that they're going to remember. Going pumpkin picking, apple picking, really simple things that aren't going to break the bank. That's what it's all about.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Along the lines of everybody's busy, we're still trying to do things where, you know, we keep everybody fed. We do it in a way to where we're trying to be as healthy as we possibly can, meaning let's try to avoid stopping at all of the fast food joints and maybe plan ahead a little bit more so that we're not doing that, which at the end of the day does keep us all more healthy. What are some things folks can do along those lines?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, plan ahead. I've always talked about it. Take Sunday, take Saturday, even take Friday, whatever day of the week makes sense for you and for your family. Sit down, go through a meal plan, get the kids involved in it, too. You know, have them come up with ideas because come Wednesday, if they wanted tacos and then all of a sudden Wednesday rolls around, they don't want tacos. You can say, you know what? That was your plan all. So you're giving them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Great point. Going to the grocery store together, picking out some of those healthier snacks, looking for stuff that has the high protein, putting the things like the pork rinds or even, you know, the beef jerky sticks, the chomps, things like that into their lunches, making sure that they have those high protein items in there that's going to keep them fuller longer. Even when they come home from school, I love having a snackle box or a that's going to give them – that's going to tide them over until dinner. Some of those things you can plan ahead so they're not just jumping to the pantry, jumping to the refrigerator, jumping to the freezer, grabbing ice cream, or you're not running through a McDonald's drive-thru or anything like that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and I think for a lot of folks – and this is something that, you know, Shanice, I don't think I can stress enough. A, we want to make everybody as – keep everybody as healthy as we possibly can, especially our kids. B, and everybody's on a budget. I don't care who you are, you're on a budget. And the reality is every single time you make a trip through one of the drive-thrus, let's say, we all know that that expense goes up. And I don't know that any of – I can't stress that enough. And the best way to save money is to, as you said – plan ahead have some things done on the front side and for a lot of you that are out there listening that have busy lives families all of that you know as you know Shana see there's so many different tools now that frankly what weren't even around back when especially when I was a kid but even when I was raising kids what I mean by that is some of the now plug-in coolers that you can go throw in the back of the vehicle most everybody has families has some sort of an SUV so throw a cooler back there and Keep some things cool if you need to. You're going to go to the ball game instead of stopping at, you know, the fast food joints. Go back to the cooler. Grab some of the things that you've been mentioning. There's all sorts of ways to do this. The key, and you said it, you got to plan ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you do. And, you know, especially if you're going to long soccer tournaments or you're going on road trips or anything like that, definitely planning ahead and packing the sandwiches, those kinds of things. And if you're running out of ideas, I mean, John, there is nothing wrong than going to ChatGPT and just plugging in the ingredients that you have in your pantry or your refrigerator and say, Just come up with something easy. These one sheet pan recipes or something that my family is going to love. Keeping in mind some of the things that have high protein, trying to get some meat in there and things that they're going to enjoy. You know, planning ahead. Honestly, full transparency, last week I was not in the mood to cook. I did exactly what you said. I door dashed a ton of food, and my bill was about $180. I about... flipped out and I said, okay, reset. That was, you know, and it's okay to splurge every once in a while, but you cannot have many nights of that because not in this economy and not with that big of a family. It's just not feasible. It doesn't work.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is not. And, you know, it's funny. I've had this conversation with many a person, not to get off track, Shanice T., but I've had this conversation with many a person where You know, I talk about health and wellness on Wednesdays and being healthy and so on. And one of the comments I usually get from people is, well, it's so expensive to eat healthy. And typically my answer back is not as expensive as going through fast food places and different things along those lines that, by the way, I know a lot of folks do because they think – They're saving money because, oh, you know, that happy meal isn't that much money. It is when you start stacking them all on top of one another, Shanasty. And to your point, you can make this stuff yourself. Keep in mind, every time something is made for you, you're paying for somebody to do so.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, and it's just unhealthy. We just don't know what's going into those things. We don't know all of the ingredients. And when you're making it at home, even when you're buying the hamburger patties or you're buying the buns, at least you have some sense of the ingredients that's going into it. So it just makes sense to just try to do as many things as possible. And I know people work. I know they're running to six different sporting events in an evening or whatever, and I know it can get chaotic. So really taking the time on your day that you don't have as many things and just sitting down and doing the work. We always tell our kids, eat the frog, do the thing you don't want to do, and just get it over with because you're going to be so thankful when things get chaotic later on in the week.
SPEAKER 17 :
One item that I don't know much about because we haven't talked a lot about this, and this must be a new company that you guys are representing and talking about, and that's the bakehouse bread. I don't think you and I have talked about this one yet. Talk about it because I don't know much about this one yet.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Bakehouse bread, it is absolutely delicious. It tastes fresh out of the bakery. They have zucchini bread. They have banana bread. I love serving this even as a breakfast treat. It's sweet enough that you could even put it in a lunchbox as a delicious dessert. In fact, they have one of the number one zucchini breads right now, and it is incredible. It's bakery soft every single time. It tastes just like Grandma made, really delicious, and high-quality ingredients, wholesome, really delicious. And you can actually pick it up there locally, I believe at King Soopers.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep, that's what I'm reading in my notes. And, again, I will do this. I will actually go grab some of this, give it a trial myself. And I get it. In a lot of cases, no. Is this going to be an everyday staple? Of course not. But there's times of the week where you're going to find the need to have something you need to fill in with. And I'll go as far as to say this, Shanice, even if this were an everyday for somebody versus going through a drive-thru, eat this. You're still going to be better off at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and you're going to save some money too because, man, it does add up. It's unbelievable. And it's okay to splurge, like I said, every once in a while, but we really have to pinch pennies when we can because we want to have extra money to do those fun fall things. We want to have the opportunity to go on a hayride or go to a haunted house or whatever it is you're going to do for the fall and enjoy those family memories with your kids or your grandkids.
SPEAKER 17 :
I did notice, too, that for those of you listening, this is one of those things, too, where you can load up on a few at a time. If you find them on sale or something, they're freeze-friendly, meaning you can freeze them, unthaw them, still use them again. They're using all real ingredients when they make this bread. It really is, Shanice, just like you were making it on your own, other than in this case, you may not have the time to, or even in some cases, Shanice, the skill set to do so. If that's the case, go pick this up at your local King Soopers, and off you go.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, I really encourage everyone to give it a try because that's a good point too. The skill set or even the time. If you don't have the time to bake the zucchini bread or the banana bread in the morning, give it a try because it's really delicious and nobody will know that you bought it. It tastes that good, that's for sure.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, for those of you listening, we do have a Halloween charcuterie board recipe. I'll stick that into my show notes so you guys can take that and use that a little bit later. Most likely, probably have Shanisty on one more time before Halloween anyway, so Shanisty, we maybe can even talk a little bit more about that the next time you're on, but I appreciate taking time. I know you are, again, I'm amazed at the things that you get done. You are super busy, and every time you're with us, I'm just amazed at how gracious you are to us and taking the time and I appreciate it greatly. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I love it. Hop over to Instagram. It's just at Shanice D. Ireland. Of course, I have YouTube, Facebook. I also have a blog, She's Becoming Domestic.com. Hopefully, in the next couple of weeks, I'll have a lot more Halloween recipes on there, witches brew, and all sorts of fun stuff.
SPEAKER 17 :
Shanice D., again, as always, I appreciate it. You've become a great friend of ours on the show, and I appreciate all you do.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you so much, John. Have a great evening.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're very welcome. You bet. Take care. Have a great rest of your fall, by the way. We'll probably talk to her again next month, though, so I shouldn't say it that way. We'll get her back here in October. Typically, we do. Love Shanna Stee. She's a great lady, has a great family, by the way, and she's amazing just to watch and how she does everything family-wise. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next, folks. And again, if you're looking for a new used car, maybe you've got a teen driver, maybe you're looking to downsize or upsize, depending upon what your needs are, they can help you with all of that. Financing, they can do that for you as well. Take your car in on trade. You name it, they're there for you. RidgelineAutoBrokers.com.
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This isn't rage radio. This is real, relatable radio. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 17 :
And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Health and Wellness Wednesday. Dr. Julie Gatz is joining us now. Dr. Julie, welcome back.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi, thanks. Nice to be here.
SPEAKER 17 :
Always a joy having you. In my notes, the title of our conversation today is Cheese Dreams. In other words, is there any truth to the fact that if you eat cheese before bed, you get nightmares?
SPEAKER 09 :
it actually can be very true.
SPEAKER 17 :
I did not know that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you know, the thing about it is dairy is a very hard product for most of us to break down. We don't have the enzyme lactase to break down the dairy products. There's a lot of calcium in dairy, but that is the least area that you're going to be getting your calcium from. Maybe calf gets calcium from the dairy and has the enzymes to break it down, but When we're putting things in that our gut can't quite handle, it's going to cause toxins and bloating and, you know, basically unbroken down fermented food. And that can cause nightmares and restless legs and uncomfortable sleeping and all sorts of crazy hormone stuff.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. So folks listening and they're thinking, yeah, but I'm always hungry before bed, Dr. Julie. So I guess the question would be why and then what should I eat if I really am hungry?
SPEAKER 09 :
So usually people who are hungry before bed skipped breakfast or ate carbohydrate-type breakfast, like a piece of toast and coffee or cereal or silly things like that. So usually breakfast skippers are hungry at night. So what you do is you eat protein in the morning, you eat protein in the afternoon, you eat enough protein at dinner, and lo and behold, you might find that you are as satisfied as you're supposed to be. And I'm talking good protein, not just grabbing a handful of nuts and calling it good protein.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. So in other words, what we're doing during the day can have a factor on that. Okay. What happens if we find ourselves where there's a particular day and maybe there's somebody listening and they've had a long day. They had meetings after work. They really didn't get a chance to have a good meal. And so now they're back home. By the way, I do this sometimes. Sometimes this happens to me. Now, all of a sudden, you're back home. It's nine o'clock. You go to bed at 930 or 10, but you want to eat something because you're starving. What should you eat?
SPEAKER 09 :
An egg, a hard boiled egg. I do not love eggs. I never have. But, you know, the more I learned, the more I researched, the more I actually saw results. I had to change my mind and start to like eggs. So, you know, fish and chicken is also easier to break down than red meats. So you do want the proteins. This is not where you want to make the popcorn and have the chips and snack on the chocolate and eat the ice cream. This is where you actually have to go, all right, fine. I didn't do quite a great job today. Have a big glass of water. Have some protein. Have an egg. If you want to nibble on some carrots, some celery. I don't think that's going to necessarily handle you, but if you like the crunch, then that's going to be fine for you as well.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Are there certain – I mean, I'm sure there is, and I already know. There are certain foods we should just avoid, period, no matter what, especially before bed, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, the best thing that you can just, as a rule of thumb, is just avoid most of the grains.
SPEAKER 17 :
So in other words, that slice of pizza, probably not a real good idea?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, that's true. The pasta, the sandwich, the pancakes. All that stuff is just we really have ruined our grains in this country, and I'm seeing so much more sensitivities to grains than I've ever seen in 34 years of practice, and it's because our guts have been so inflamed, and it takes about 10 years to sort of show it up in the population. Well, it definitely has been showing up for longer than that. So, you know, if you can at all costs avoid grains, including the gluten-free type things, it doesn't mean that all of them still have Roundup used on them. I mean, if you want to do organic, great, but, you know, that's also questionable as well. So I'm saying, you know, this is where you want to eat your vegetables, have the protein, you know, have some fruit, and, you know, be mindful about your diet because – You know, every fast food restaurant is basically designed to make you unhealthy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Very true. And by the way, make you want to come back. That's the other biggest thing, as you know, Dr. Julie, they do is they have got that quote-unquote special sauce whereby it is designed to make you want to crave more of it and come back again and again. Am I right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely, yes. And, you know, just the behind-the-scenes information is really disturbing that it actually makes you go, wow. as great as McDonald's fries are, I don't think I want another one. Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Great point. Okay. What about, and this is something I know we talk about this periodically, but I know this has to feed into what, sorry, the pun there, but it has to feed into what we're talking about. And that is, what about what we're drinking and consuming along those lines?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, the best thing that I can say is there are just so many choices that we never had growing up. I mean, I took a video of the aisle that has all the different choices of drinks the other day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was working at the store was like, what are you doing here?
SPEAKER 17 :
Really quick. I want to stop you for a moment because you're right. I mean, I can remember as a kid and by the way, the grocery stores were even smaller when you and I were kids. That's one thing we don't talk much about the size of the store. wasn't even what it is today, meaning every aisle had less in it, by the way. But the drink aisle especially, Dr. Julie, I grew up, and first of all, having soda was a real treat. We didn't have a lot of it because it just wasn't, you know, it cost money. And it wasn't as, in our world, it was a luxury, I guess you could say. So we had a lot of, you know, lemonade and water and iced tea and things like that. And to your point, the aisle itself just didn't have that much in it.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, it did not. I had your basic pops in there. But other than that, now it's just it's crazy. And, you know, the amount of sugar and weird things in it and and crazy ingredients that are making them blue. And it's just crazy. I mean, I can basically say wipe yourself out of that aisle. You know, just don't even walk down it. If you are thirsty, get yourself a glass of water. If you want to, you know, flavor it, flavor it naturally. You know, grow some peppermint and put some leaves in it. You know, take some berries and let it sit in it overnight. Put some orange slices, lemon slices, cucumber slices. There's so many ways to make water more interesting, but it also is the very basic things that our cells need, and they don't need flavored water. I see a lot of my patients coming in, and they're taking all these electrolytes, and I'm certain that some of them are actually very healthy. They're taking so much of it that they're having strange symptoms. I'm here in Florida, and everyone's like, I need more electrolytes. And I'm like, I don't really think that you need that many more.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I'm like, knock them all out, drink water.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so you're the doctor. You see patients. What are some of the side effects of having too many?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, what happens is when you take too many electrolytes, it starts taking yours from your body. So people start getting headaches and they're fatigued and they have twitching. I'm a chiropractor, so when I adjust them, they're just not holding quite well. They can't sleep as great. Yeah, I'm like, all right, let's talk. So then I have to dig into, you know, what are they doing? And I've seen so many patients lately because I think the electrolyte marketing is getting hit really hard right now.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Again, I learned something. Every time you're on, I learn something new, and that one I would have never guessed makes total sense. What about, and this is something where, you know, and again, I'm by no means an expert when it comes to tea. I like regular iced tea. That's about the extent of my experience. tea knowledge, but I know some people will take teas for everything from, you know, it's going to make me sleep better or it's going to keep me unconstipated or it's going to do this or it's going to do that. Is there any truth to those? Are there some teas we should avoid?
SPEAKER 09 :
The ones to avoid are the green, the black, and the white tea. Now, I know everyone says green tea is healthy, and yes, it has a lot of wonderful properties, but that was in China when they were eating really great food and that wasn't the problem. So you start putting green tea in somebody's diet now and it acts very similar as coffee. It changes how they absorb, so it alkalizes their digestive system and you don't get the nutrition in quite as well. Now, conversely, there are thousands of remedies in normal herbs and roots and flowers of teas that I encourage all my patients to take a really good look at because there are things to handle muscle cramps and to you know, make your skin nicer. I mean, I make, you know, natural teas constantly at my house, only because I am not very good at drinking water. So I have to do something.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, you and me both. I'm kind of that way as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I'm growing right now a butterfly pea plant that has the most gorgeous blue flowers. And I take the dried flowers, I put them in hot water, and it turns completely dark blue when you add lemon, it goes lavender. So for me, Just the artistic of it all. Then I find out what all the properties are. So I have hibiscus flowers and leaves in the back and I have lemongrass. And so I'm making these different teas just because I'm growing them. But you could go to the tea store or get on the Internet and start looking at all the different things that teas offer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. When it comes to, you know, even folks that drink like regular iced tea, let's say at lunchtime, is there any ill effect on doing that? I mean, do they need to ask the restaurant if they're getting an actual iced tea, what's in it, or is iced tea iced tea is iced tea?
SPEAKER 09 :
Iced tea is basically iced tea. Usually they're making it from Lipton, and, you know, it's just the basic, and, you know, it does taste delish, but, you know, what's happening is people are starting then to, they boost the adrenals, which you don't want to necessarily do that every single day because then you start to rely on it. Now you need two teas. Then later you need a little something else and some chocolate and a little sugar. And we should be able to create our own energy because we're eating decent foods. And we can supplement with things like good digestive enzymes to break our foods down and things like that. But we can usually get what we generally need – I say that kind of funny because food has changed so much. We're in a weird world right now that I would say still stick to the basics on what you need as far as food first rather than trying to boost your energy with weird drinks and other foods.
SPEAKER 17 :
Talk to us about Absorbate. It's something that you and I talk about regularly. For those of you listening, I buy the large bottles now because I take one or two of them every single day, mainly because I take one before bed every night. Now, religiously, even when I travel, I take enough to make sure I have one every night. possibly one during the day depending upon you know what's going on dr julie and i know there's folks that probably think oh my word why would you do that well for me personally if you have any type of i don't know dr julie just you know strange gut or you ate something maybe that was a little spicier or whatever the case may be that absorbate just settles all of that down and you sleep better
SPEAKER 09 :
It's true. And absorbate is a digestive enzyme that has all natural enzymes that come from fruits and plants and vegetables. So it's a vegan formula. When you take it, let's say you're a healthy eater and you have three meals a day. When you take one or two per meal, it aids in breaking down that meal. So you get more nutrition basically every time you eat. If you're not a good eater, it helps to break down to get the nutrients that you can from that meal. also helps to get rid of the toxins. So it will handle and help to break down bacteria, toxins, poisons, and viruses. When you take it on an empty stomach, like at night, it helps with inflammation. So let's say you've been digging in the garden, your back hurts, your hands are achy, you can take it and you're a heck of a lot better the next morning. So I think it's more important than taking a multivitamin because it will aid in breaking down the foods that you've bought, prepared, and hope that people like, including yourself. So for me, it's a must, and you can give it to dogs. You can give it to elderly. You can give it to the kids. It's just all plant material.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Where do we get it?
SPEAKER 09 :
You can go to the website, which is naturesources.com, and they offer some free samples on that website or 20% off your first order. You can also call the 1-800 number if you use the code RADIO. They'll also send you some free samples or 20% off. So that phone number is 1-800-827-7656. So you can hear all this great data. Unless you do something about it, you're just smarter but not better. So, you know, they make it super easy. Get on the website, call the phone number, and check it out for yourself.
SPEAKER 17 :
And again, folks, personal testimony, and I am not a spokesperson. I guess maybe I should be by now, Dr. Julie, but I don't get any product for free. I buy all of my own product. I utilize it on literally a daily, weekly, now several, gosh, I don't know, probably been even a year now, Dr. Julie. I've been using it for quite some time. And here's what's happened with me. I'll just give you a little side note here. Started using it kind of when, you know, my stomach didn't really feel quite well or maybe ate something a little spicy, so then, you know, you just took it. Then kind of became, okay, I think I'll just take one before a meal. Okay, now I think I'll just take one before bed. I mean, it's the point now to where literally I am religiously taking them when I eat and when I go to bed every single time.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's just so smart. And, you know, one point that we didn't mention in the show is if you have to think about your digestive more than once a day, your digestive tract, then something's probably not working properly. If you have any gas, bloating, indigestion, heartburn, diarrhea, constipation, acid reflux, all those things are saying whatever you're eating, you're not breaking down. Something's not correct. Your digestive system should be an efficient system that you don't have to think about. So You know, the first thing that I'll throw at that with anybody is throw some absorbate into their digestive system, but then also correct their diet with what we talked about today. And I would say 90% of the patients improve just with those few things.
SPEAKER 17 :
I've been reading a lot lately, and I don't know why. It's just one of those things where, you know, all of a sudden you get on something and I'll start reading, and then you know how the Internet works when you start reading. Now you start getting videos on it and different things and so on. And fasting, I've read and looked at a lot here lately when it comes to fasting. And for those of you listening, not just the I'm going to eat one meal a day type fasting, Dr. Julie, but literally in some cases taking two or three days having water only and and the health benefits of, is that a gimmick or is there some real truth to that?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, there's definitely truth to it. And, you know, I always like when the body gets a little shocked somehow and, you know, you switch it up a bit. You know, it sort of needs to feel like it needs to survive at a higher level sometimes. And, you know, fasting does so many chemical changes to the system at a cellular level. including, you know, creating better, more stem cells and fighting inflammation and, you know, just sort of letting the whole gut just go, oh, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 17 :
The other thing I've read that it really benefits in is the whole insulin control end of things. Is there truth to that as well?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. So, you know, before anybody's fast, they should do some research because it's not just drink water. You definitely want to get some information. I've had a lot of, you know, patients that just said, oh, I drank water for 15 days and you know, the downfall of that. So there is electrolytes you need to take. There's things you want to do, and, you know, make sure that you follow the fasting rules. So read a couple of articles on it, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so again, what I'm reading and learning is it's not a fallacy. There really is some solid truth to it, and again, all the stuff that I'm reading and seeing, at first you're sort of like, wait a minute, that sounds like too good to be true, but from what you're telling me is, no, it actually does work.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it's intermittent fasting too. It's good to mix things up a bit. And, you know, I'm okay with people eating, you know, plants for a short bit. I really do believe that we need protein from, you know, fish and chicken and eggs and things like that. But, you know, if you're switching it up a little bit and sticking with it, you'll find where you actually sort of do the best. Some people do really great on just protein. Others don't. you know, can't do that sort of a gig. Others can't fast and others need six times a day. They need to eat small meals. So, you know, if you goof around with it a bit, you'll kind of find where you do that.
SPEAKER 17 :
How do folks find you, Dr. Julie? I know that you're a co-founder of the Florida Wellness Institute. Give us information on how folks can find you.
SPEAKER 09 :
I have an Instagram, which is the Florida Wellness Institute. So you can get on that and, you know, read about some things that I do, but mostly, you know, mostly I'm connected to the, uh, TheNatureSources.com just because I love this. I love this product so much I could talk about it all night with you.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, you and I both. It works for all of you listening. Absolutely. Go get it. I can't stress that enough. It will. I don't think I'm wrong in saying this, Dr. Julie. It's a life changer. Go get it. Use it. It really does change things immensely.
SPEAKER 09 :
It really does. I'm just in love. So I have a bowl of it on my counter. I don't even unscrew the top of the bottle. It's just, you know, grab a couple, grab a couple, put a few in my pocket.
SPEAKER 17 :
There you go. Dr. Julie, as always, I learn something every time you're on with us. You're gracious. I appreciate your time greatly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you. Me too. All right.
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, I have a couple of minutes here, and I'll just give you, this is quick, and you've got to make your own decision when it's all said and done, but I finally, my wife and I and some of our family, went to Casa Bonita. last night and some of you maybe have already been and have you know experiences of your own and i'll give you just my you know 100 foot view not discouraging anybody you probably need to go and do things on your own and figure it out that way food is it better yes is it gourmet no is it worth the price of admission No, in my opinion. That's just me talking. And you guys all know me. I'm not a cheapskate by any means, but is it worth the price of admission? No, it is not. So you do whatever you need to do as far as that goes. But the plus sides. It's a nice place. I mean, they have redone it all and redone it in a way to where literally it's like walking back in time to when I was a kid and when things back then were pretty new and you were walking around and everything looked new and felt new and was new. It's that way again. So that part, I will give them credit. They did a fabulous job of remaking everything. Literally not quite exactly the same way it was when we were kids because the cafeteria-style line thing where you get your food doesn't exist anymore. You order at your table. You've got several different choices of things to order. Not a ton. I mean, the menu is very short. You're not ordering – again, you're not ordering a bunch of gourmet stuff. It's a set menu, and you order one of whatever the five or six things are that are there, and off you go. And you no longer walk down the cafeteria line like you used to, which, by the way, is a good thing. They still take you to wherever your seat would be. You don't get to pick your seat. So depending upon the size of your group will depend upon where you actually end up sitting. Are you near the waterfall? Are you off in some side room? Are you back in the little cave area? You know, all the same things, which, by the way, isn't any different than when you were kids used to go through the tray line. get all your food, and then somebody would escort you to a place to sit. That is very much the same other than you're being escorted on the front site. There are, and Charlie said, maybe because of different things that have gone on politically and so on. I don't know how long they've been there, but there's metal detectors. So don't bring your pocket knife or anything along those lines. If you do, you're going to be taking that stuff back to the car because you're not getting in with that. Fortunately, my wife called me early enough to where I left my knife because I always have a knife on me, left that in the car before I ever got in, which was a good thing. and they literally scan you upside one side, down the other. It's actually probably because the technology isn't as good, but it's actually more intrusive than going to a ballgame. Again, probably because the scanners aren't as good as what you would get at the ballgames, but it doesn't take much to set one off. So if you want to go to Casa Bonita, just go. Be warned, for adults, it's $40 a person. plus tip, meaning it's going to be right around 50 bucks a head to go to Casa Bonita. And that doesn't include, that's just soft drinks. If you get any other type of alcoholic beverage, it's going to be more than that. Just keep that in mind. So that's my 100-foot view of Casa Bonita. You can always text me directly if you want any other answers. But we'll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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The Average Guy's Ordinary Average Guy
In this episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush and Dr. Kelly Victory delve into the controversial discussion around vaccines and autism. They dissect the recent press conference led by RFK Jr. and its claims regarding acetaminophen and autism, and analyze the historical context and emerging studies surrounding this issue. The conversation unveils inadequately controlled studies and pivots to a broader discussion on the growing vaccine schedule and its implications for public health.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is Rush to Reason. You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes. With your host, John Rush.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome, Thursday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory joining me now. Steve House is still out, Dr. Kelly, but welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm doing fine. It's been a good week. Beautiful fall weather we're having.
SPEAKER 08 :
We'll take it. And even with the little bit of rain we had earlier, it's making everything nice and green. So to your point, we will take it. All right. Lots to talk about today, I guess, as you probably would already have predicted. Let's talk about what happened this week in regards to RFK Jr. We've got some autism stuff. We've got Donald Trump talking about Tylenol, which that's where I wanted to start, Dr. Kelly, because... After reading and looking at a lot of things, at first I thought, you know, is that really a direction that he should go given he's really not in the medical profession? But when it's all said and done, was he wrong?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, let's start with this. It was really touted to be an incredibly important press conference. They built it up and said that they were going to, you know, announce the cause of autism. Um, I just say that I was disappointed, uh, in a bit perplexed is the understatement of century. Uh, it was a bit discombobulated and disorganized. Uh, they dip their toe in the water multiple times about the idea of vaccines, but really focused instead on Tylenol acetaminophen being the cause or a potential significant cause of autism or other neurologic injuries. I think there was so much that was left out of the conference. And again, I was extraordinarily disappointed. We can get into what I believe is actually the truth regarding acetaminophen and what role it plays in neurologic injury in utero or of young children. But suffice to say, I do not believe that they actually hit the nail on the head.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Well, let's start with, because I did have in my notes and something that even Charlie and I off air were talking about that we wanted you to cover is not only acetaminophen, but if you'd also cover, you know, ibuprofen, other muscle relaxers, windshield, you know, over the counter stuff for everybody listening. These are all over the counter drugs that you can go down to your local, you know, you know, Walgreens, CVS, whatever, King Soopers even, and buy. And I'd like to know, Charlie and I would, all of those particular over-the-counter drugs, what does each one of them do? Who should or shouldn't be taking some? And I know this is very generic and general, Dr. Kelly, because you don't know each person individually, but I do know that there are side effects with each and things we should be careful of.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well for decades, the only one of these drugs that has been approved or recommended for use in pregnant women has been acetaminophen. Aspirin and the non-steroidals, things like ibuprofen or naproxen sodium, are contraindicated and have been for decades in pregnancy. We don't prescribe them. So Tylenol was the go-to. It's what we were all taught in medical school. And it's certainly what it still even says when you look in the physician's desk reference as recently as yesterday, that is sort of the Bible for physicians for how to dose things, what conditions it can be used for, shouldn't be used for, contraindications, drug interactions, all those things. It's a four and a half inch thick Bible that we all use. It gives very, very vague language and says that there are fundamentally no studies that show any ill effects. Now, It turns out that when you look further, and I didn't try to do this until just Monday, it does not appear that there were any significant studies ever done on acetaminophen and pregnancy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 13 :
Or I certainly can't find them. Yeah, interestingly. So once again, we may have been taught things in medical school that simply weren't true, but for decades. Now, acetaminophen was first formulated back in, I think, 1887. It did not become... used regularly until the 1950s, but it was used in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s by pregnant women at a time when the incidence of autism was fundamentally zero. Autism was not something that was a significant issue. It was maybe one in 100,000 births back in the 60s. Then, you know, all of a sudden there's this massive increase in the rates of autism. In 1980, it was 1 in 10,000 births. All of a sudden by, you know, 2000, it's 1 in 150 births. And now all of a sudden this year, it's 1 in 30 births. Now that is not simply because, quote, we became better at diagnosing it. Something changed. And what I would submit to you is it isn't the Tylenol usage. It isn't acetaminophen usage that changed. The thing to me that changed was the frequency and the number of vaccines that were being given. both to children and to pregnant women. Prior to 25 years ago, prior to the year 2000, we did not really vaccinate pregnant women. It was just something we didn't do and we didn't recommend it. All of a sudden in 2000, we start recommending that Pregnant women get everything from hepatitis vaccines to influenza vaccines, RSV, you know, everything in between. And unfortunately, getting a vaccine is one of the most common causes of muscle aches and fever for which a woman who's pregnant might choose to take the drug that's recommended for that, which was acetaminophen Tylenol. So I believe that if there is a relationship between acetaminophen and autism, It is. And I suspect that there is some relationship. It is not the Tylenol itself. It's the timing with the giving of the vaccine. In other words, if a pregnant woman, you know, a healthy pregnant woman falls and breaks her wrist and because she's pregnant, the only thing she can take is Tylenol or she, you know, burns her hand and, you know, get the sunburn or something and need something. She takes Tylenol. That baby, I do not believe, is at risk of developing autism. It's when she takes Tylenol to treat the muscle aches and fever, having gotten her flu shot. Likewise, if you take a two-year-old child or a one-year-old child and that baby's fussy because it's teething and you give it Tylenol, we don't have stories of my baby was teething, I gave it Tylenol, and the next thing I knew it wasn't making eye contact and its behavior changed. It's when... The parent brings the child home from the doctor's office after having gotten its MMR vaccine is fussy, gets the Tylenol, and all of a sudden everything changes. So I believe that it is the association between acetaminophen and the giving of the vaccines that really is going to ultimately prove to be the issue. But that is not what they chose to focus on. They kind of danced around it, you know, dip the toe in the water, mentioned vaccines, but then back to Tylenol. and they kept going coming back to acetaminophen and again i'm not saying acetaminophen is not a remarkably safe drug there are far more overdoses and deaths from tylenol every year than there ever were for something like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine by orders of magnitude you know it is it is not a remarkably safe drug it is metabolized through the liver it changes the metabolism of the liver of many things including glutathione which is critical for brain and neurologic development and function. So I'm not saying at all that there isn't an association, but I think that it's a bit of a smokescreen to focus on acetaminophen when the thing that changed when we saw all of a sudden the uptick in the incidence of autism, the thing that changed was the vaccines.
SPEAKER 08 :
Gotcha. All right, great stopping point. We'll come back. I've got text messages coming, and I'll read those through the break. Hang tight. Dr. Scott's coming up next. And by the way, all of what we talk about here, that is also the way Dr. Scott feels, and he'll take care of you in the very same way we talk about here on these Thursdays during this hour. 303-663-6990.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory with me today. If you want to know more about Dr. Kelly, by the way, maybe you're tuning in for the first time, go to our website, rushtoreason.com, and you can find more information on Dr. Kelly there. There's an entire page dedicated to her there. Okay, several messages coming in. I'll get all these answered as we have time. Trust me, we did have a question. I guess Charlie did as much as anybody, Dr. Kelly, because you see this all the time. You see this in drug commercials. What's an NSAID?
SPEAKER 13 :
It's a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory. So what that means is that there are drugs that decrease inflammation. The primary drugs that decrease inflammation are steroids, things like prednisone. Prednisone is a steroid. So there are non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, which are things like ibuprofen, otherwise known as Advil, naproxen sodium, known as Aleve. Those are non-steroidals. They are anti-inflammatories. Aspirin also is an anti-inflammatory. And the steroids are clearly anti-inflammatories. In terms of providing analgesia, pain relief, aspirin and Tylenol and the non-steroidals. all do that. Unfortunately, as I said before, the only one that has up until Monday, they've been recommended for pregnant women was Tylenol. So as the president, they sort of, as I said, danced around it. Right now, I don't know what they are suggesting that doctors should really use for pregnant women who need pain relief. You certainly, you know, I wouldn't choose to go with an opiate, you know, somebody, well, you know, I'm not sure I feel comfortable with a pregnant woman who is, you know, treating her with, you know, codeine or oxycodone for pain. I can't give ibuprofen. I can't give one of the NSAIDs. I can't give aspirin. And if you can't give or are really reticent now to give Tylenol, it leaves you in a bit of a bind. It's not reasonable to think that a without ever needing to treat any kind of pain, anything from a toothache to, as I said, a sunburn. So obviously, we don't ever recommend that pregnant women take anything they don't need to take. So I'm not, I think we probably have, you know, gotten into a culture where people pop Tylenol, you know, like Tic Tacs as if it's, you know, a nothing to do it. And that's not right either, just because you're running a little low-grade fever, you've got a little ache or pain, particularly if you're pregnant. The better thing to do is just say, you know, I'll have some hot tea and go to bed and, you know, feel better tomorrow. because all of these medications can impact the fetus. But the idea that we are now going to avoid Tylenol altogether, I think is probably unreasonable. And again, I'm hoping that they will flesh out a little bit more the studies that all of a sudden are coming out of the woodwork. You know, Mayo Clinic's got one, Harvard's got one. All of a sudden, it's really quite remarkable. We're getting all of this data came out about acetaminophen. But none of the studies controlled when they look back or any of the epidemiologic data, they didn't control for vaccination status. What was the reason the person took the Tylenol?
SPEAKER 08 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK, what did they take the Tylenol because they had muscle aches after getting a flu shot? Or did they take the Tylenol because they had a sore throat?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, did they take the Tylenol every day or once a week, twice? What was the frequency? Those sorts of things. So the studies were really not, you know, are not well controlled. And I think there's an awful lot we don't know. And again, when you talk, if anybody knows. the stories of mothers of autistic children is Robert Kennedy Jr. It was that compelling information that really caused him to found Children's Health Defense all those years ago. Because mother, and I'm not talking about a handful of mothers, I'm talking about tens of thousands of of parents who said my child was normal was meeting normal milestones was you know learning to crawl was making eye contact totally interactive learning starting verbal skills we went to the doctor got the vaccines that afternoon the child was inconsolable and never made eye contact again Never, okay, it was like flipping a switch. And I didn't used to believe that. I was one of the people sort of, you know, shrugging my shoulders and saying, you know, these women. Yeah, I did, and I acknowledge it. Until about six years ago, when I started to really listen and be more thoughtful about it, say there is something here. There is clearly something. And when you look at the current vaccine schedule again, we've talked about it so many times on this show, John, but people in our age demographic. Back then, people who were born in the 60s and 70s, based on what state you lived in, the recommended number of childhood vaccines, meaning from the day of birth until 18 was somewhere between 6 and 8 total shots. That number is now 84. Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Amazing. And really quick, I want to ask a question because I saw something on this the other day where, and again, you see memes and different things, and you know me, I kind of take everything with a grain of salt until you do a little bit of research and then figure out, is there really something to this? Now this one, I don't know that I can disagree with, and what this meme basically said was, Given the fact there's that many, because it talked about there's well over 70 that a lot of young kids can get, and the comment basically was, Dr. Kelly, if they didn't bundle those up and they made you take each one of those individually, would parents still do it? And I think the answer would be a hard no.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly, because, you know, one of the answers, I think, clearly is to disarticulate them. We know, for example, that the MMR, if it was separated into measles, mumps and rubella and given us three separate shots, three separate visits, that's what the Japanese did. They got rid of the combined MMR. And when they did and they started giving the shots individually, they saw their autism rates plummet. OK, but as you said, if you now have to do them individually, you would do nothing else during the first six or eight years of your child's life. But go back to the pediatrician.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK. And so they do it for convenience. They bundle them because it, number one, drives compliance.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 13 :
And they have led parents to believe that this is somehow healthy. But I've said from the beginning of this, of the pandemic, going all the way back to late 2019, The human immune system is the last great frontier of medicine. It doesn't always respond the way we think it's going to. And I'm here to tell you that the human body, the immune system was never meant to be challenged over and over and over again by a foreign protein, which is what is in vaccines. It's a foreign protein. It's got all sorts of other things mixed in with it. including we know that some of them still contain mercury. Many of them contain aluminum and other things. And when you're constantly saying to your immune system, ha, try this one. Now respond to this one. You're constantly like flogging it with stuff out of the blue. This little baby, day one, barely has taken his first breath on this earth, and you're jabbing it with hepatitis B and asking its little immune system, respond to this. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's evil. No, the picture that you're painting for me is, and I'll use a sports analogy, it's sort of like you watch the combine, the NFL combine, and you see these young kids who, by the way, are super athletic, and yet they're running through a course, let's call it that, Dr. Kelly, because that's what it is. And you've got a lot of other individuals, coaches, other players potentially. And as the guy's running down, zigzagging, somebody's knocking him, you know, trying to knock him down. Then he zigzags the other way and he tries to get knocked down again and back and forth and back and forth. And he'll do that for 30, 40 yards. What you're describing is exactly what those guys do in the combine.
SPEAKER 13 :
exactly and so you you already have to think that this newborn baby and children toddlers they're already being faced with all of the pathogens that are out there in the environment you know whether it's pollen or rhinovirus or whatever it is you know they're all these they're bacteria and viruses and mold and all this stuff that they're trying to deal with and their immune systems are trying to learn those things and learn how to respond to them and then on top of it Eighty four different times you're going to jab it with something out of the blue. You know, it's like their immune systems have no idea which end is up. So the idea, for example, that some children will develop an auto immune response to that's what autoimmune diseases are. In other words, you get the shot for something. You start to produce antibodies. You're supposed to produce antibodies to whatever it is, chickenpox, measles, mumps, whatever it is. The immune system at this point can get confused sometimes. All of a sudden it starts forming antibodies against yourself, against your own tissues, which is why you and we have all these kids who have autoimmune related diseases like asthma and peanut allergies and eczema and all of these other food allergies that they didn't used to have because their poor immune systems are on fire. They're constantly trying to battle a new foe that's been injected into their thigh. I mean, it's just not the way the immune system was made to to react. And most of these things, look, you're talking to somebody. I had chickenpox, measles and mumps, the diseases, not the vaccines. I had the diseases. So did all of my siblings. And we're all just fine. OK, so I think we need to be more thoughtful about which are the actual diseases that we're saying, whoa, we don't ever want to get that because the, you know, the outcome could be disastrous. The average child is going to, you know, skip right through having, you know, chickenpox or measles or mumps with very, very rare exception is not going to have a bad outcome. And I think the studies would prove that they're really, other than perhaps polio and tuberculosis, there isn't a vaccine out there that hasn't caused more problems than it's avoided.
SPEAKER 08 :
Question, and again, it's another chart that I saw, and I always want to question and ask you because, you know, there's a lot of stuff out there that, by the way, can be doctored up, may not be true. But I saw a map on autism where, you know, it sort of had different colors for different countries and, of course, the highest rates of autism being read. And, of course, the United States is... virtually read, and yet a lot of other countries, most other countries, Dr. Kelly, don't have the cases we have, and yet they're not doing some of the same things we're doing that we're talking about. Is that in fact true?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, it is true. And, you know, there are many other countries that do not have vaccine mandates, for example. China does. Think of it. China doesn't have vaccine mandates. The United States does, but China doesn't. OK, there are many countries that have used vaccines. far, far fewer vaccines than we use, and they space them out very differently than we do. In the United States, we have been led to believe that you are just one vaccine away from remarkably good health, and it's simply not the case. You cannot vaccinate your way to good health. Good health really comes from having a strong, innate immune system. I'm not saying that every single vaccine... is contraindicated. But I think we are giving vaccines for things that are absolutely ridiculous. There's no reason to. There's no reason, frankly, for a male child to ever get a rubella vaccine. Rubella is fundamentally a common cold. So if you could argue to me that if a girl, a woman, a female, gets to childbearing age and hasn't had rubella yet, that you could justify at the age of 20 or 25, whenever she's thinking about having children, she's never had rubella, to take a rubella vaccine because should she contract rubella while she's pregnant, she could end up inducing a birth defect.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
For boys, there's not a justification on the planet for a boy to get a rubella vaccine. And that's a fact. And that doesn't make me anti-vaccine.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you just said that she should get one and he shouldn't. That's exactly what you just said. Correct.
SPEAKER 13 :
And she should when it comes time for her to think about starting a family.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay? Because there's no reason when she's 10 she doesn't need one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 13 :
And so push it off. Hopefully, you know, hopefully she'll end up contracting, you know, rubella, the common cold, and we can easily test for antibodies, you know, before she starts having children. Likewise, there isn't a justification on this population. plan it for a baby to get a hepatitis B vaccine. If you wonder if the child might get hepatitis B, test the mother. Do a blood test on mom. It's not that difficult. It's a simple blood test. Why would you instead inject a baby with a vaccine and induce its poor little brand-new immune system to start going into overdrive. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great point. No, great point. And along the lines of, you know, taking things and letting your body work things out and so on, again, whenever these things come up, there's all sorts of now experts that come out of the woodwork, and sometimes they are and sometimes they're not. But I was watching a doctor the other night, and he made sense. I mean, again, whether this guy's right or wrong, I thought I'd ask you to really determine if he is or isn't. But he was talking about just – Tylenol in general and how a lot of people, to your point, will take them at just the slightest of sniffles or they get a little bit of a fever. And so now they're taking something. And his point was, you know, that fever is there. And as long as it's not getting too high, it's part of what we're doing in our bodies to expel the things that are going on inside. And sometimes actually taking, quote unquote, a drug to lower the fever may not actually be the right thing to do. What are your thoughts? And is he correct?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I think that's exactly correct. That's exactly right. There's a reason. Likewise, if you take something like diarrhea, there's a reason you shouldn't run right out and start taking a drug like Imodium that stops gut motility and stops, you know, you're trying to expel what's there that doesn't want to be there, right? Yeah, let's get rid of whatever it was that's causing you this upset. Don't keep it in. Let's get rid of it. Same kind of theory. I think we've become very soft. We have this entire, you know, two or three generations of people who think you should never have a bit of discomfort. You should never have a cough or a sneeze or a sniffle or a body ache. Sometimes it's your body's way of saying, as I said, time to make a cup of tea and climb in bed. OK, drink some extra fluids.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Every single thing doesn't need to be. I mean, you look at people's medicine cabinets. They've got 75 different cold and flu medications. You know, they've got pain medications, you know, up one side and down the other. And just the idea is somehow we are going to medicate our way out of every ill feeling. And it's really not smart science.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, last question before we take a break that somebody asked is, okay, we talked about Advil or ibuprofen. You talked about Tylenol. We'll get into maybe some of the other things that coincide with that when we come back from the break. But somebody asked, okay, what are the alternatives? In other words, if these are things that you maybe would want to try to avoid, maybe not at all costs, but let's just say you want to try to avoid it, minimize what you're actually popping into your mouth, what are some of the alternatives, even some of the natural things, Dr. Kelly?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, again, that's what I said. You're really in a bind because there are a ton of things. I am not a naturopathic expert by any means. You know, there are things, you know, that people try, things like chamomile for sleep, you know, to help relax and sleep, things of that sort. And I think any of those sorts of things are helpful if they work for you. There are teas that are homeopathic things that don't cause the, you know, liver toxicity and the rest of it, which is wonderful. The primary problem with acetaminophen is liver toxicity, and it decreases the way, as I said, it changes the way that you metabolize certain things. But there certainly aren't a lot of over-the-counter remedies. I think the bigger issue is that people have got to have a different sort of threshold, if you will, for needing to take something. Even pain medication. Look, when your doctor gives you strong pain medication, I don't care if you're getting Vicodin because you've got a broken leg. Nobody ever said it was to make you pain-free. It simply was intended to take the edge off enough that you can get through it, that you can get some sleep, that you can get through it. The idea that you are going to eradicate all pain. it's simply not reasonable and it's not something that you should even, it's not even a good goal. You know, you don't want to eradicate all pain and all fever. It's there for a reason. Lots of times it's the pain's there to tell you to slow down, don't walk on that leg or don't do X, Y, or Z until this muscle or joint heals or whatever it is. So unfortunately, I wish I could say that I were a homeopathic expert. I'm not. But there certainly are things out there. Arnica, I believe, is one of the things that a lot of people take for cold and flu if you want a homeopathic thing. But I would recommend that the best thing to do is to stop popping a pill every time you have the slightest ache or pain.
SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, now that we are back, Dr. Kelly Victory with us. Dr. Kelly, we had a call that came in just a moment ago, an older individual, maybe not real old because I'm getting to that stage myself, but 65 years of age, going to Thailand. Is there anything that they should do, he should do to be prepared for that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I would recommend that you take... It's sort of a broad range of medications with you so that you don't get caught needing something that you don't have. It's very simple to get some broad spectrum antibiotics, perhaps some antivirals, medications for pain or nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, those sorts of things. I recommend that everybody put together a travel kit to take those things. You don't want to be anywhere on the road and certainly not in a foreign country and be beholden to their system, particularly when you might not speak the language or have difficulty know who to trust. So I think the simplest thing to do is just bring, as I said, I recommend antibiotics like amoxicillin and medications for diarrhea and vomiting and those sorts of things that might commonly occur there. You might also bring a few things like Neosporin or some topicals to treat skin wounds or things that might happen. Other than that, go and have a great time. Tylen's on my bucket list.
SPEAKER 08 :
Awesome. Okay. And by the way, I would like to do that as well. So let's really quick, somebody also mentioned, and I don't want to get off on a complete other topic, but I do think this is important to mention because there's a lot of folks out there listening that has followed us, have followed us, I should say, Dr. Kelly, all the way through the past, you know, five years since COVID. And, you know, everybody out there listening knows where we came in when it came to masks and the mask mandates and all of that. Right now, currently, there are some individuals, some stars, by the way, which why these guys even get any kind of FaceTime is beyond me, like they're some sort of a medical expert, that are now trying to push mask mandates again. I already know your thoughts, but I still got to give you the floor and let you mention them.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's just insanity. First of all, we know that face masks do virtually nothing to stop the spread of respiratory viruses. They just aren't effective. And that certainly is not why surgeons wear a face mask. The idea that I really believe this is about, again, about control. This is about people trying to make sure that they keep people in fear and do single because, you know, the face mask was really the talisman. It was the sign of being virtuous and caring about others because you wore a face mask. You were a dutiful little soldier and covered your face in public. There is not a really any rationale from a medical or scientific point to do it. And it causes far more harm than good. The masks harbor bacteria and viruses themselves. They increase the amount of CO2 that you breathe in, particularly for children who don't have the expiratory force that an adult does. So they trap carbon dioxide bacteria. in the mask and part of what leads to headaches, difficulty focusing, concentrating, insomnia, all of those sorts of things. So frankly, I would ignore those people. I don't think there's any scientific evidence behind it. And I'm not exactly sure what epidemic or outbreak they think that they're preventing or protecting you from.
SPEAKER 08 :
That great question. And again, I already knew where you would be coming from on that, because that's exactly where I'm coming from. I mean, some of this stuff just gets to be so literally it's so ridiculous. And some of these, you know, you know, stars or kids to the stars think they're somehow, some way, some sort of an expert when it comes to health in general, by the way. And frankly, Dr. Kelly, they're not. I mean, that would be no difference. Well, actually, I shouldn't say I was going to say there'd be no difference in me going up and testifying. Actually, there is. I know more about it than they do.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I mean, why in the world, people? I said early on in my frustration of the censorship and the people arguing with me online and elsewhere, I said, I really hope that the next crisis that we face as a nation or as a globe involves something like international markets or commodities pricing, something I know nothing about but will appreciate. incessantly and argue with people who have PhDs in it. You know, there's a reason why we're supposed to listen to people who actually have some training in this. I don't, you know, get out there and pontificate and talk about, you know, what people should do on things, you know, with their finances or anything else. It's not my area of expertise. And these influencers online Listen, they've got a right to speak, and I'm not suggesting that they don't, but we have a right to ignore them.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Somebody just said to the Jesse Waters, I guess last night, Charlie mentioned this as well in my ear here earlier, where there's all sorts of pregnant women now because of what Trump says, popping Tylenol almost like it's coming out of a pest dispenser, basically saying, you know, he's not my OB. Is there I mean, are these people really that dumb and are they potentially harming not only themselves, but their baby by doing so, Dr. Kelly?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, and I've seen dozens of these TikTok videos of very pregnant women popping Tylenol, essentially out of their disdain for President Trump. I'll show you, it's absolute insanity. As I said, Tylenol, regardless of whether or not we have proven an association with autism, the reality is that Tylenol is a serious drug. It can have profound liver toxicity. And the idea of doing something like that, you know, because you're somehow going to show President Trump, you know, if President Trump said that you shouldn't drink during pregnancy, would you do a TikTok video of you, you know, downing a bottle of Jack Daniels just to prove it wrong? I mean, it's just stupid.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's lunacy. It really is.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's lunacy. It's really a mark of sickness. It's part of this. Trump derangement syndrome, except in this particular case, you're affecting an innocent unborn baby.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. A question came in, been taking, I know I'm going to get this wrong, levothyroxine, L-E-V-O-T-H-Y-R-O-X-I-N-E.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, levothyroxine. It's a thyroid supplement.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. I've been taking it for many years. I just read, though, the other day in one of the news publications that it could cause cancer, and those have been taking it for a long time. Is that true?
SPEAKER 13 :
I have not seen any credible studies that indicate that supplement, you know, thyroid hormone is critical to life. Without it, you know, you can get into huge, huge, huge trouble. So obviously you need your thyroid hormone. Many people need to supplement it. There are people who have had their thyroid glands removed because of cancer. There are people who have had it radiated for the same reason. There are people who have developed autoimmune illnesses that have attacked, you know, called Graves' disease, where they attack their thyroid and have thyroid issues. There are reasons, you know, people develop thyroiditis, inflammation of the thyroid, and therefore need to supplement thyroid going forward. I have not personally seen, when taken as prescribed in the doses that keep your thyroid level where it's supposed to be, where it would otherwise be kept naturally if you had a functioning thyroid gland, I have not seen any studies that show that it causes cancer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good to know. So, yeah, to answer both of those questions, going back even to the one where, yes, you guys are mentioning these videos that you're seeing, and it really is, it's just, A, it's unwise. I think the way that I look at it anymore, Dr. Kelly, especially from knowing you over all of these years, it's just unwise to pop anything, especially in excess. But to your point, if you really don't need it, you got a mild headache and you can live without it, do you need to really take anything? No, wait and see what happens. Does it get stronger? Does it go away? Maybe you're dehydrated. There's all sorts of other things that can come into play as to why you might have that mild headache. So, you know, rather than just popping a pill, wait a little bit and see exactly what happens before you actually take it. do so. And by the way, I think most of us know our bodies well enough to know, is it strong enough? Is this pain strong enough that I actually need something? I had another texter a moment ago that talks about taking Tylenol PM for minor aches and pains and so on, helps him sleep at night and really wanted to know, is that really And I will just give my own testimony as somebody that had a disc removed. I blew my back out when I was in my early 20s because I was dumb as a rock, Dr. Kelly. Sorry, I was. But anyways, after all of those years, I still suffer with a lot of back pain. In fact, I would say that there's a lot of times where, you know, waking up in the mornings, you know, you're stiff. You've just you. I don't have a disc in a certain spot in my back. And yes, that's going to create some pain. There's scar tissues, other things, as you know, Dr. Kelly, that builds up over time. And the reality is it's something I've learned to live with. And I will say that I won't really take anything until that pain gets to be an eight or above. If it's below that, I do my very best to just live with it, even going to bed at night. Is it discomfortable or is it uncomfortable? Yeah, but I think over the years, I've just learned to deal with it because I watched other family members. I don't want to get into great detail, but I watched another family member literally ruin his life by taking too much crap for the same thing. And I think for me, Dr. Kelly, I had the opposite. It was like watching an alcoholic family member. I was the opposite. I didn't want to be that, so I didn't. And maybe at times I should to take the edge off, but I won't because of that.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I agree. And I think if you have a chronic pain condition, the best thing you can do is really go to a pain specialist to look at other ways you can deal with it other than pharmaceuticals. For some people, it's yoga, meditation, exercise. I have some significant chronic pain issues. I have very, very debilitating arthritis issues. in my hands, and I also have a spine issue. I had the better part of my cervical spine fused when I was in my 30s.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so you know. You know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER 13 :
I do, I do, and it simply would not be reasonable or a way to live to be on chronic pain medication. So, you know, for me, you know, exercise, yoga, other things.
SPEAKER 08 :
I want to throw this in really quick, too, for a lot of you listening. And one of the things that really has helped me, we talk about on the roundtable, they're not a sponsor here, but the red light therapy that we talk about on the roundtable that comes out of Canada, that's very high end units. These are not the hundred dollar units you get off of Canada. Amazon, Dr. Kelly, it's very high intensity, red light waves. I will tell you that personally, does that work? Yes. The other thing that I use is the TENS unit. I have one of those and that electricity at times just does wonders on the pain. So like you, Dr. Kelly, I've learned to try to use other aids that I'm not popping something in and digesting it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, you know, for many people, you know, TENS units are very, very helpful. What the TENS unit does fundamentally if you have muscle or nerve pain is it kind of confuses the nervous system purposely. It sends out micro, micro little electric shocks that sort of dull the nerve, sort of insensitize it or confuse it so that it does for many, many people remarkably take away the pain. I also think that some of the patches can be useful for some people, and at least you're providing it just to the area where you're having pain. Some people get huge relief from things like CBD cream. For me, I have to say it did absolutely nothing, but I have patients for whom CBD is like a miracle. They just put it on their hand or their knee or whatever it is, and they just get remarkable results. So I think you are obligated to try anything you can and limit the amount of actual pharmaceuticals that you're ingesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. I actually found a cream. It's a Voltaire. It's sold here, but the – I guess maybe I shouldn't say this, but – There's a stronger dosage that's sold south of the border that I pick up and bring back home, Dr. Kelly, because it's a higher concentration. And I will tell you that as a topical cream or as a topical ointment, maybe it's the best way. It's not a cream. It's an ointment. It's clear. But it's not like mentholatum or Icy Hot or anything along those lines. It's much better. And it's topical. And even for I've got arthritis in my hands like you do as well. And I will tell you that it helps out immensely. So I like you. I try to do everything I possibly can, not popping a pill.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. And so I think it's going to be individuals who need very much, as I said, for me, CBD does nothing for others. Me neither. So I think, but the idea, again, to get back to it, it becomes sort of soft as a culture. When I think about what my parents did, what they took, the number of sick days they took, the number of times they didn't run to the urgent care.
SPEAKER 08 :
There weren't any, Dr. Kelly. Even when you and I were kids, urgent care didn't exist.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. I mean, you literally had to have your brains coming out before my mom was taking you to the ER, and even then you'd more likely get a butterfly bandage. I mean, we didn't run to the doctor for everything. There weren't urgent cares. You sure as heck didn't go to the emergency department without something that was really life-threatening. the idea of going for these minor complaints. So I think there's been a cultural shift, and it's really been fed, it's been fomented by big pharma. You cannot turn on the television without seeing, oh, my Lord, commercial after commercial for some condition – I went to medical school. I've never heard of half of these. These acronyms I've never even heard of. But there's a drug for it. There's a shot for it. There's a pill for it. And you're just constantly bombarded with this idea that, oh, if you have any problem, we've got a solution. We've got a pill or a treatment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's what the ads all tell us, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. So it's this constant advertising to people to go get the newest drug or the newest treatment for whatever condition it is you have rather than maybe just being a little bit more cautious, taking some downtime, trying some more natural remedies. and not being such a baby about everything.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and for those of you listening, please, I mean, I understand Dr. Kelly does as well. I understand pain. I understand how that works. I understand how uncomfortable and how much discomfort that can create. I also understand that it can affect the way you sleep and so on, and I get all of that. On the same token, I have learned, like Dr. Kelly, that there are other things that you can do. Sometimes it's hot water. Sometimes it's a hot shower. Sometimes it's a hot tub. Sometimes it's other things, Dr. Kelly, that you and I have just gone through and mentioned. And I will tell you, sometimes, by the way, one thing that I learned in some physical therapy I did, gosh, a long, long time ago, sometimes it's exercises, stretching, different things along those lines that can actually make things more comfortable than they would be before. And I do all of that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. And again, I think that, you know, physicians and I can't blame it on physicians because we were incentivized to treat pain as, you know, the sixth vital sign. And doctors, you know, that this is part of what ended up causing the opiate epidemic. Doctors were told, number one, you won't get reimbursed if you don't write down on a scale of one to ten, how much pain do you have? And if you are deemed to not have appropriately treated that patient's pain, which is in the eyes or very subjective based on the patient, then so why do you think doctors started saying, look, you know, I don't care. Here's a prescription for 30 Vicodin or 30 whatever it is, rather than giving it out more cautiously. And it certainly contributed to the opioid crisis and people being addicted to opiates. Now we're seeing the error of that and saying, okay, look, we need to dial it back, educate people about the risks of these things. And to be clear, the only thing, Tylenol, the bottle of Tylenol in your cabinet, isn't the only thing that contains acetaminophen. Tons of these combination cold and flu things, you know, DayQuil, NyQuil, you know, cough and, you know, cold and flu remedy, including Vicodin, you know, these things, you know, the Percocet, the set in Percocet is acetaminophen. That's where the set part comes of that drug. So it's a opiate with acetaminophen. So be cautious if you're trying to limit the amount of acetaminophen that you're taking. And I think it probably is wise for everybody to, because it is liver toxic, independent of any relationship potentially to autism, then be aware that it's not just the bottle of Tylenol there are so many formulations, particularly of cold and flu medications that include it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dr. Kelly, that's it for today. The time goes by really fast. Thank you for all of the great information today. We appreciate it greatly. I know our listeners do as well, and I wish you a great rest of your evening, and thank you so much for your time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thanks, as always. We'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 08 :
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All right, another great hour with Dr. Kelly Victory. And once again, if you want more information on Dr. Kelly, you may be listening in for the first time. Just go to RushToReason.com. You can find her there. You can also find all of our past episodes every single Thursday for literally the past five years, with the exception of just a few here and there. We have been doing this same hour since that time, and you can go back and find all those episodes as well. All right, Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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In this compelling episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush dives into the intricate dynamics of political strategy, exploring how DEI policies have played a monumental role in the political landscape. With a keen focus on the 2020 and 2024 elections, John and his guest delve into the implications of Kamala Harris's selection as Vice President and how it impacted voter perception. The discussion takes a critical turn as they evaluate how Biden's choice could have deviated, significantly influencing the electoral outcome.
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SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we're back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Jersey Joe, what's going on today?
SPEAKER 11 :
John, I'm doing well. How are you doing today?
SPEAKER 08 :
We're doing very well. Nice weather here today after the rain. We're doing great.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fantastic. Glad to hear it. Hey, John, before we get into some new stuff, I'd like to follow up on something you and Andy talked about the other day. Sure. About Kamala Harris and DEI. You know, I was giving that some thought. You know, I think she's a case study. Epic failure is a classic example of what happens when you let DEI influence your hiring practices. Now, out of all the candidates Biden could have picked to be his VP choice for the 2020 election, Harris was clearly among the least qualified, which turned out to be a boon to Republicans in the 2024 election. Correct. Now, outside of his base, Trump was not very popular among independent voters, who, by the way, is the group that decides who our next president is.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. That's exactly right. We say that all the time. Unfortunately, Joe, sometimes I think our side forgets that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Republicans are 25 percent. Democrats are 25 percent. Independents or unaffiliated are 50. And it's the independents who decide what our next. Now, Trump was not terribly popular among the independents, but they were. they viewed him as the lesser of two evils because Comlin was clearly an airhead. Yeah, absolutely. And by the way, even though on the electoral college basis, he had a huge landslide, in the seven swing states that decided the election, he didn't win any one of those swing states by more than 3% of the popular vote. And by the way, you only have to do a 1.5% flip to change that 3% to zero. Because if he loses 1.5%, and she would have gained 1.5. It turns out, you know, now, so here's my point. Had Biden picked a better qualified VP candidate in 2020, and there were several, like Tulsi Gabbard, who is now our Director of National Intelligence, or Christian Gillibrand, the Senator from New York State, there's an excellent chance that either one of them, you know, had when Biden dropped out, that they would have succeeded him as a candidate. I think Tulsi Gabbard
SPEAKER 08 :
probably would have won the election or kristin gillibrand had he picked either one of them as his vp instead of i think you know i think don't disagree and i think what would have happened is my own personal opinion is they would have made that switch probably mid-term when joe really started to go downhill dementia wise which they've never officially said he has but i can tell you from everything i'm looking at he's got dementia alzheimer's you can see it Joe, you can see it in Joe's eyes, is what I should say, in Biden's eyes. So at the end of the day, I believe fully that he has that. And my feeling is if they would have had one of the picks you just mentioned, they would have made that switch much earlier, meaning that would have been a slam dunk for them.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, even if they didn't invoke the 25th Amendment, he probably would have announced that he's not going to run, you know, back in late 2023. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not 100 and whatever it was, seven days or whatever it was.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. So I think it's fortuitous for Trump that the Democrats... lost the election, in my opinion, because of their own DEI policies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very, very true. And again, for those that are maybe not agreeing with Joe and I, keep in mind that because of all of that, Joe, there were a lot of folks that said, wait a minute, time out. You're basically pushing me away. You know, I'm a young male voter, for example, and all of these DEI policies are not helping me in any way, shape, or form. They're not even helping me get and retain a job. So at the end of the day, why am I voting for you?
SPEAKER 11 :
Mm-hmm. Yep. So, again, I think it's, you know, foisted on their own petard, as they say.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I think the DEI— I can't disagree with you on that one at all. Really, probably down the road, this will be interesting as you go into, you know, different educational systems, say, 20 years from now, Joe, how they look back on that and what's actually talked about. But you've got to believe that that will be a case study from this point forward.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, again, so if it wasn't for DEI, Trump might not be our president today. Anyway, moving on. Hey— I sent you a clip on Bill Maher. There's a short ad. Can you play the Bill Maher clip? He's talking about the Emmys. It's only 40 seconds. But there's like a 10-second ad you need to cut out ahead of that clip.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and I've already got it queued up and ready to go, so we should be ready. Okay, Charlie, here we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
...this bad attitude of go no contact. I mean, at the Emmys, would it have killed someone to get up there since they all want to talk about their politics? Would it kill somebody to get up there, not give a speech about how much they like Charlie Kirk, just to say we had a political assassination this week? And that's wrong. And we should they would have been booed off the stage because he was on the wrong team. So you're not even allowed to say that. Can you imagine if a left wing person was assassinated that week? The whole show would have been about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what? Not not a huge Bill Maher fan, although I'm getting to be more and more of a fan because at least he talks sanely.
SPEAKER 11 :
He does. You know, he calls it now Bill Maher. For those who don't know, he's a very, very liberal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, very liberal. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
But he's made some some spot on. I think we played a couple of his clips in the prior month. Bill has been.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, first of all, the last conversation you and I just had, if we had Bill in a three way call with us right now, he would have agreed with everything you and I just said.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. So I'm beginning to have some newfound admiration for Bill Maher.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and here's what's happening with him, which, as you mentioned, the name, you know, Tulsi Gabbard and others. What's happening to Bill, I believe, is the same thing that happened to a lot of other liberals on the far left. The party left them. He didn't leave them. The party left them.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Yep. And I think he understands that and he's calling out. I think he's trying to get them to.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think he wants them back. I mean, because he's a true Joe. Don't don't you know, you and I both know he is a hardcore, true blue liberal, very much on that side of the fence. So he'd love to get the party back in check, but he may not be able to. Frankly, I'm not sure he can.
SPEAKER 11 :
No. So I think what he's doing is along the lines of constructive criticism. He's saying, hey, idiots, listen to me. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, and that's what you continue down this path and win.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, exactly, and he's not the only one on that side.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, there's others, and yet we can give example after example, probably Will, as you and I talk, of the other side and just how – I say other side. It's internal inside the party, but that other side inside of the party, they're just a bunch of loons, Joe.
SPEAKER 11 :
Speaking of Lou and Say, do we want to play the clip of Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib screaming at Congressman Byron Donald? By the way, Congressman Donald is a black man. He's a Republican from Florida. And she refers to him as a member of the Third Reich. Now, the Third Reich was the Nazis. Did you ever recall any black people in the Nazis?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, they wouldn't have allowed that, Joe. They were inferior people to them.
SPEAKER 11 :
So here she is. Now, she starts off calm, and then she loses it. Okay, there we go.
SPEAKER 20 :
But I think it's important, Mr. Chair, just like in DC Home Rule was one out of black freedom struggle in the fight for civil rights, we can't be passive right now. So nobody over there should take anything we say so personally as if we're attacking them. No, we're attacking a process, not attacking people here. And I think it's really important we need to stand up against this. Fascist takeover, that's not a bad word, it's a fact. and here in D.C. and across the country. It is so incredibly important, Mr. Chair, that this committee does not allow rhetoric that defames or paints Washington, D.C. in a way that you all haven't really truly seen. You're just reading it or something off of some... Will the gentlelady yield to a question? Yeah, I think it's really important.
SPEAKER 15 :
Will the gentlelady yield?
SPEAKER 20 :
No, I don't yield. I don't even have time. I can tell you... Your time's expired.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is expired, but Mr. Chair...
SPEAKER 20 :
But you all live here, and you're not telling people the beautiful parts that you do see in our nation's capital. And no, no, no. It's just wrong how we're doing it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Chairman, I think it's insane that the general lady doesn't have an argument, but she's going to refer to me and some of my colleagues. We were from the Third Reich. This is insane. It's insane. It's insane. It's insane. Do I look like a member of the Third Reich to you, Ms. Tlaib? Is that what I look like to you? Is that what you think? Is that what you think? Is that what you think? I think it's radical and I think it's insane. And I don't respect everything that you say. But to say something like that to myself and all of my colleagues is way out of line. It's way out of line. It's way out of line. Regular order, Mr. President. Regular order. That's okay. But it's okay, right? That is not how it goes. It's okay, right? You hold yourself accountable before you talk about Washington, D.C. Hold myself accountable? Hold your own self accountable. How about that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, they get pretty heated there.
SPEAKER 11 :
And there you go, ladies and gentlemen, from Michigan. There's the person you elected to represent you in Congress. Wow. And the fact that she was told her time has expired, she really doesn't care that her time has expired. No, she does not.
SPEAKER 08 :
By the way, doesn't care. Rules don't apply to them, Joe.
SPEAKER 11 :
Rules don't apply. Okay. And I know on Monday you talked, I think Monday or Tuesday, you talked about the Johnny Carson interview. Did you play that?
SPEAKER 08 :
I did not get a chance to play that. No, I did not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Would you like to play it now?
SPEAKER 08 :
Let me see if I've got that one really quick.
SPEAKER 11 :
I just sent it to you. And this is Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes interviewing Johnny Carson as to why he never did serious politics on his show.
SPEAKER 08 :
And let me get that to load up here. It might take a minute on this one because this one might. Does it have an ad ring in front of it, Joe?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, there's no ad, but it's in the news. You've got to go to the news article.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, here we go. I'm ready. I think we can play this. Maybe we get rid of the spinning wheel. Oh, no, we'll have it. Look, I've got to let a Tide ad play. Hold on a minute here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Sorry.
SPEAKER 08 :
I didn't have that one queued up, so it'll take a minute to play through. I mentioned it, but I didn't have a chance earlier in the week to actually play it just the way things are sometimes, Joe. Here we go.
SPEAKER 12 :
People say he'll never take a serious controversy. Well, I have an answer to that. I said, now, tell me the last time that Jack Benny, Red Skelton, Benny Comedian, used his show to do serious issues. That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that? But you're not... Why do they think that just because you have a Tonight Show that you must deal in serious issues? That's a danger. It's a real danger. Once you start that... You start to get that self-important feeling that what you say has great import. And, you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as a forum. You could sway people. And I don't think you should as an entertainer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well said.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, of course, people like Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they use their platform all the time.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, the other guy that would agree with Johnny Carson was probably in the same camp as Johnny, politically speaking, maybe a little bit more to the right than Johnny Carson, maybe more down the middle. But that would be Jay Leno.
SPEAKER 11 :
I was going to say the same thing. Jay Leno right down the middle. Because as soon as you take one side or the other, you've alienated half your audience.
SPEAKER 08 :
And here's the difference between those two and the rest of these guys. They're capitalists and understand how to make money, Joe.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, look at both of them. I mean, Johnny's gone, of course. But look at Jay Leno. Look at the literal, you know, empire that he's built. Some of the things he's done since getting out of The Tonight Show, the car end of things and what he's done there. And, you know, just even all the channels regarding he's a great car lover like, you know, like I am, Joe. And he's done a great thing along those lines and built a lot of great vehicles and has had shows along those lines. And it's just continued his, quote unquote, empire along. And again, still not getting into the political end of things, even to this day.
SPEAKER 11 :
Didn't need to when he had the number one rated talk show, and as did Johnny Carson. Could have. Yep. Neither one of them felt the need to take a political position. And by the way, I remember Jay Leno and Johnny Carson both taking shots. They would have Republicans on them, and they would take shots at both of them, but they were never vicious. It was equal. Yeah, and also, they were never vicious. They were always good majors.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, just poking fun at. It's sort of that ribbing that, by the way, you can't do anymore in this country because everybody's so thin-skinned.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. I want to move on, by the way. For your listeners, there are people out there who continue to take eight-word clips that Charlie Kirk has said and say, see, see, he was a racist. See, see, he was a bigot. And they only take eight words of something he said. And there's a black podcaster named Jeffrey Mead. Yep, I follow him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great guy, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
And he does this, and the first thing you'll hear him play is a clip of another podcaster using one of those eight-word clips taken out of context to prove that Charlie Kirk was a racist. Now, we don't have to play the end of the Jeffrey Mead thing, but I think let's play the first one.
SPEAKER 08 :
And really quick for all of you listening, Jeffrey is one of the—I don't think I'm wrong in saying this, Joe— probably one of the most intelligent and lays things out in a very calm fashion every time he does a video and really just picks away at things along these lines. I'll play it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so I've had a whole lot of white folks commenting on my last video asking for proof that Charlie Kirk was an outspoken racist. And there are many horrible quotes to choose from, but there's one that I haven't seen get quite as much attention that I believe is head and shoulders worse than all the rest. In December of 2023, Kirk said, quote, End quote.
SPEAKER 16 :
See how he said, end quote. Charlie Kirk has explained his reasoning behind this multiple times. And these people have to leave out the context in order to paint the picture they want to paint. Listen to Charlie Kirk talking about this.
SPEAKER 17 :
You said the Civil Rights Act was a mistake. What do you mean by that? Yeah, so the parts of the Civil Rights Act were great, but the way it's now being implemented to force men and female bathrooms to push forward of the trans agenda, the intent of the Civil Rights Act is way beyond what it was originally offered for. But the intent specifically originally was to... Well, that's interesting. So the intent and the law are two different things. So the intent was noble, which was to say that no American can be not allowed into a place of business based on the color of their skin or their ethnic heritage. Totally agree with that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Did we see what he just said?
SPEAKER 17 :
So he said he's totally in agreement with that. He also said it was noble. Let's actually look at the definition of noble real quick. Number two is the definition that applies.
SPEAKER 16 :
So he's saying the Civil Rights Act had high moral principles. It was noble. It was good. He says he's in agreement with the intent. So no, he doesn't want black people being denied at water fountains. He does not think we shouldn't have rights in this country. Now let's let him continue.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's not what the law only did. It created a massive anti-racist DEI army that then gave us affirmative action. For example, recently Merrick Garland sued using the Civil Rights Act, saying that we cannot have voter ID in certain states because it's a violation of the Civil Rights Act. So basically what the Civil Rights Act did is that it went beyond disparate impact and then went to disparate effect.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I'll stop there, Joe, because as you know, that's one thing that people, when they write laws, they tend to overlook. I don't want to say forget about, because I just think they overlook, and they don't understand how that law and what they're implementing is. That's why I'm so against new laws of almost anything, Joe, because we have far too many and need to take some away. Because as you know, those laws can then be twisted around and changed and used for other things that their intent never was.
SPEAKER 11 :
road to hell is paved with good intentions, John. But the reason I wanted to give that one example is that there's a dozen or more liberals taking six or seven words that Charlie Kirk said and twisting them, trying to paint him as a bigot and a racist. And if you hear any one of those, you need to go listen to the entire thing that Charlie Kirk said. And Jeffrey Mead just did a great job of doing that. So again, I think we played some clips last week. In fact, there's another clip I'd like to play They said, well, he was homophobic and he hated transgender. There's a clip of him counseling a transgender woman. And I think this is really beautiful, the advice he gave there. I agree. I'll play it.
SPEAKER 23 :
I just want to say I'm a transgender male. What age should kids be able to get things like hormone therapy? Because I don't know what's true, what's not.
SPEAKER 24 :
Tell me, are you comfortable telling me your story? Will you pause? What he just did right there is like Jedi pastoral move. Somebody is asking you a question, and his first thing is essentially, tell me your story. Let me figure out why this is important to you. So he's discerning what's in this person's heart. Are they coming to me for help? Or are they coming for an argument? Like, that's brilliant. It's compassionate. All right, let's keep going.
SPEAKER 23 :
Since like third grade, and I'm currently 19, almost 20, I've known basically since then, I didn't start going by like a different name until... 7th and 8th grade. I just don't know, like, with the whole medical stuff, like, what's true, what's not, what's helpful, because I've heard so many different opinions.
SPEAKER 17 :
First of all, thank you so much for that. Yeah, of course. So, I'm going to have an opinion that very few people will ever tell you, which is I want you to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in the pursuit of changing your body. I instead encourage you to work on what's going on in your brain first. Dude, he's doing theology here. Romans 12.
SPEAKER 24 :
um be transformed by the renewing of your mind this is brilliant he's like he's a christian man applying his theology to this person in this issue because the transgenderism issue is hey man there's a it feels like there's discontinuity between my mind and my body And what the transgender movement says is, oh, change your body to come in alignment with your mind. The Bible says, no, no, no, no. Let's renew our mind to come in alignment with the truth. I just want to point that out. Let's keep going.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think what you need first and foremost is just a diagnosis. Just someone that is going to listen to what you've gone through, listen to what else is going on. My prayer for you, and again, very few will say this, I actually want to see you be comfortable in how you were born. I know that you might not feel that way, but I think that is something that you can achieve. I think that with the right team and the right people, you don't have to wage war on your body. You can learn to love your body.
SPEAKER 24 :
By the way, there are more people than people would think at Lake Point who came from previously identified as transgender and then the Lord saved them and brought them out. And by the way, that's why the scriptures say, you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free. Well, why will the truth set you free? The truth sets you free when you've been enslaved by a lie. And somebody that's in that spot, like you can see it in that person's body, like she's not okay. And it's actually a lie. That's enslaving. So it's like telling somebody the truth in that situation that that's not hateful and it's not hurtful. The most loving thing you can do is explode the lie that's enslaving the person.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, really what and we've talked about it many times on air, Joe. Charlie's exactly right. I mean, he's looking at it in the same way that I do. This is not a a body issue that this particular individual is having. It's a mind issue. In a lot of cases, it's a mental illness. And where does that come from? That, Joe, I'm sorry, I don't have a high enough IQ to explain that. It could come from their lifestyle, how they're raised, the different people that they're around, what they're taught at school. I mean— There can be all sorts of things I think that come into play. And frankly, Joe, in a lot of cases, I do believe this. It's frankly not having I'm going to say it this way. It's not having a dad, a father figure that will come alongside and say, this is who you are.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I think the key point. All right. So as he points out, when you're transgender, there's a disconnect between your mind and your and your body, your physiology. Correct. And what the liberals want to do. Well, let's let's right away. Let's only focus on changing the body. And they never even want to talk about, well, maybe we should look at you. Now, buddy, once you change the body, that's irreversible. You're done. You're done. That's right. But if you focus on the mind first, hey, why don't we first, let's see if the mind, if we can maybe get the mind in line with your body. And if that doesn't work, you always have the option of going back and changing your body. but they always want to go to let's change the body first, and once you do that, there's no going back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and they know that, Joe. Number one, it's a cash cow. Number two, they know that there is no going back, so now they've got that person pretty much in their grips from that point forward, and even if they do change down the road, they're never going to be the same person, so they still win at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, and the suicide rate, as you know, John, for people that have— the suicide rate among transgender people who have undergone surgery is much higher, much higher than transgender people— who have not undergone any surgical changes.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's huge, Joe. It's huge. It's huge. Really, it's an epidemic. We talk about all this other stuff that the left wants to be big on, gun control and all this other stuff. They should be focused there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And by the way, did that sound to you like a transgender hating bigot to you?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, he loved her dearly and wanted her to be a different person from the inside out.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so again, I don't know why the left is trying so hard to characterize Charlie Kirk as a racist, as a bigot.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good versus evil.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good versus evil.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's all it is, Joe. Good versus evil. He's the good. They're the evil. They don't like, you know, those two mix like oil and water, and they just can't do it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's that simple. Good clips, Joe.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Man, I appreciate it. Good stuff. Thank you always.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, talk to you next week, John.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we're going to get Phil Kirpin joining us. He is from American Commitment. We're going to talk a little bit about the climate craziness that's going on, and he's got a campaign to stop that. In the meantime, somebody called in and wanted to know, hey, I missed part of Joe, Jersey Joe's, you know, half an hour that we do on a weekly basis and wanted to hear that. All of our show, so all three hours, you can always go to the website RushToReason.com. Go to the show notes section. Just use the little dropdown. And we record them all. They're all done by hour. In fact, in some cases, Producer Anne will even clip out certain segments depending upon what we do. I don't know if she clips out Joe's or not, but you can re-listen to that first half hour very easily. That'll be ready and up on the website. a little bit later this evening so you should be able to you know listen to that then so yes you can always listen to any of our shows all of them are recorded put back up uh for uh you know reviewing and re-listening to sending on to somebody else again if you'd like just go to the website rushtoreason.com phil what's going on sir
SPEAKER 18 :
Not too much, just watching the Mets put the final stages on their total collapse. Other than that, I'm all right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Other than that, you're okay? American commitment, I talked about that a moment ago. You've got a campaign talking about stopping climate craziness.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, we just did a big comment campaign that actually wrapped up this week because the docket closed at the EPA, but this is a big one. People need to be tuned into this because the Trump administration this time around is striking right at the heart of all of the EPA greenhouse gas regulations, which is the 2009 endangerment finding that said that greenhouse gases endanger human health and welfare and therefore should be regulated under the 1970 Clean Air Act. And that was the linchpin of all the EV mandates, which we've talked about before, of all of the power sector regulations, of all of the industrial regulations, basically everything they've done They've done by this mechanism because they never actually passed a climate law through Congress. They tried.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's dovetailed into something else that already existed.
SPEAKER 18 :
You never get the votes. And so, you know, the liberal states basically sued the Bush administration. They got this case in 2007, 5-4, where the Supreme Court said, oh, the EPA has to decide based on the science. Then Bush sat on his hands for a couple of years. Then Obama came in, and it was full blazes ahead. Trump kind of, in his first term, kind of tinkered around the edges of it. but didn't really strike at the heart of it. And I think it's because he got a lot of bad advice back then of, oh, you're going to be called a climate denier, don't do this. And, of course, you know, he's learned so many lessons from his first term, and this time he's striking right at the heart of it. And if they succeed in court, and I think they've got a really good chance, it's going to be very, very difficult, if not impossible, for a future Democratic administration to bring all of this economy-wide greenhouse gas regulation back unless they could actually get the votes in Congress, which, by the way, is the way our system is supposed to work.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I was just going to say, that's exactly how things are supposed to work. You heard Trump, of course, talking about that in front of the U.N. and even talking about how crazy it was and the fact that a lot of these other countries, if they continue down that path, it'll break them. And by the way, he's not wrong, Phil. He wasn't wrong in anything that he said. And I think he maybe isn't super eloquent in how he says it, but he was dead on in everything he said.
SPEAKER 18 :
It was fantastic. He said it right to all these European countries. He said you massively increased your energy prices. You imposed economic hardship on your countries. You achieved these big greenhouse gas reductions. And guess what? China swamped you in a matter of weeks. It made no difference to global emissions. You're being played for fools.
SPEAKER 08 :
The only thing I wish he would have added, I said this the other day, Phil, is I wish he would have said in light of China, I wish he would have said, you know, by the way, they're building one coal power plant, you know, coal-fired power plant every single week. You know, you guys are being snowed here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, it's amazing. The Chinese, they're laughing so hard at us. They use cheap coal-fired electricity here. To build the solar panels they sell us that we buy with all our tax dollars. Exactly. Absolutely incredible.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's almost, I mean, Phil, you almost couldn't, if you were in that world and you were trying to fleece everybody and you were trying to literally pull money out of one person's pocket and put it in another, this is the storybook that you would write. It's insane. It's insane.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, it's pretty incredible. And the other thing I really like about what they did this time around is, you know, not only do they have this EPA action, which is basically a legal argument. Their argument is, look, it was never legal in the first place for EPA to do all of this. If Congress wanted economy-wide greenhouse gas regulation, they should have passed it. They cite all these recent cases to that effect. They've got all the economic arguments in there. But what they did that no Republican before this administration had the guts to do is, They also contest all the science. And the EPA didn't do that. What they did is they had the Energy Department do a full review of all of the climate science. And what they did that I think was so brilliant, first of all, they debunked all of the alarmist stuff. They basically, they run through all the facts and all the data. They find that warming is happening, but it's pretty mild. They're not going to be the catastrophic impacts that people are talking about. They've got a very comprehensive report. But they actually put the names of the authors on the report. And the lead author... Stephen Coonan was the top science advisor in the Obama White House. And so they've got the name of, you know, a legendary scientist, very, very famous distinguished physicist who was also the top scientist in the Obama White House as the lead author on this report that basically says all the apocalyptic claims are overblown and not supported by the data. So that's going to be in this docket as well, and the courts will have to contend with not just the legal and the economic arguments, but the science debate is actually being joined rather than just giving the other side a clear field.
SPEAKER 08 :
What's the timeline like on this?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, they just finished the comment period. They'll probably take, I would guess, a month or two to publish the final, final decision of the endangerment finding, and I'm sure the green groups will run to the nearest friendly courthouse and get some district judge to, you know, side with them, and then they'll have to go through the appeals and stuff like that. So, I don't think it'll be at the Supreme Court for a year or so, and that's the only court that matters in the end. So it'll take its time.
SPEAKER 08 :
So it'll take a little while for it to run its way, you know, quote, unquote, up the flagpole. Okay, so really quick, and this isn't in my notes, but I want to ask you this. Given we've got a deadline coming up for, you know, government spending and government could shut down and so on and so forth, what are your thoughts on all of that? You know, the Trump Organization, you know, the White House, they're looking at if that happens, you know, we're going to continue these, you know, government not only layoffs but, you know, terminations if it comes to that. What are your thoughts on all that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I love it. I mean, you know, normally what happens in these shutdowns is they furlough people and you get a bunch of federal workers that are not going to work for the duration of the shutdown. Then they bring them all back and they pay them for the time that they weren't working and say, oh, thanks, you know, here's all the money for the time you weren't working. Russ Vogt, the White House budget director, says, and I can do that this time. In fact, they're going to do layoffs, permanent layoffs, if there's a lapse in appropriations. And, you know, Democrats are saying, oh, my God, they're bluffing, they won't do it. We'll get judges to stop them. Well, maybe. You want to risk that? Maybe. But, you know, the Democrats are making astonishingly ridiculous demands right now. Republicans put a bill on the floor to just extend the current funding, not to change anything, extend it for seven weeks to have more time to debate. The Democrats said, no, no, no. will only do it if you repeal all of the health care reforms from the big, beautiful bill.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they want all the Medicaid stuff back in, some of the stuff that actually got taken out.
SPEAKER 18 :
They want to put illegals back on the rolls. They want to run sex change operations on minors. Basically, everything that Trump won the election on, they want him to agree to reverse? Are they insane?
SPEAKER 08 :
Not going to happen.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, like no chance.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, the one thing that we're up against, this is what I have to remind everybody of that's out there trying to vote for candidates and, you know, do the purity test on them and so on, is, you know, we've only got a 53-47 majority, and you need a 60-vote majority to overcome a filibuster, and right now we don't have the votes to do that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. So, I mean, look, they can force a shutdown if they want to, the Democrats.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
It does look like—I mean, here's the thing. Schumer— you know, a lot of people are saying, oh, he's trying to set things up for the 2026 midterms. I say, no, no, no, no, no. He's trying to survive his own 2028 primary. This is about the politics of 28, not 26. He sees AOC. He's scared to death. He doesn't know if it's going to be her or someone like her, but he knows he has to do whatever the radical left wing of his party wants, at least initially. And so I think that's why we will have a shutdown, because he's going to say, We can't vote for any spending bill. We're going to filibuster.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do you think that's going to be one of their campaign things they run on? As far as those that are running in 2026, that's what they'll use. They'll say, you know, we stuck to our guns. We wanted to make sure we got all these things back in. So, yeah, we even went as far as to shut the government down to do so.
SPEAKER 18 :
In Democrat primaries, I think those insane positions are, you know, that's the right position in the primary, even though those positions are insane in a general election. And so I think that's what they're trying to do. But, you know, what I think will happen is we will have a shutdown. But I think it will be over before the end of October. I think it'll just be a couple of weeks. And I think what Schumer will do is basically tell the left wing of his party, look, I did what you wanted. We accomplished nothing. We look ridiculous. We've got to agree to something. And I think he will maneuver that. He's a pretty good politician. He will maneuver this so that he gave them the shutdown they wanted, and he fought as hard as he could for them, but then also he saved them from the shutdown and agreed to something. I think he will try to do both of those things.
SPEAKER 08 :
So he's going to basically try to play both sides?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, of course.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's what good politicians do, so yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's what I expect.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what? I don't know that I can disagree with you on any of that. And as you know, they're going to play this up to be the martyr when it's all said and done. We didn't have any choice. We had to shut things down. We're working hard for you guys. We wanted some of these things put back in. You know, those dirty, rotten Republicans, they took all of your rights away. They took all of your money away. At the end of the day, we're just trying to get stuff back for you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right, except, you know, the things that they're talking about are super unpopular things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 18 :
So, I mean, maybe they're just counting on the media being in their pocket or something, but I think it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough because Trump has the biggest platform in the world. He says things and they're everywhere within minutes. You know, he puts something on truth and it's in every inbox and every headline everywhere. And so I just, I don't see, I don't see how it goes well for them, but I feel like they're going to try it anyway. They have to for, you know, primary reasons.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Well, I appreciate it very much, Phil, as always. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 18 :
AmericanCommitment.org is the website, and I'm on X. It's my last name, Kerpen, K-E-R-P-E-N.
SPEAKER 08 :
Awesome. Phil, as always, I enjoy having you. Appreciate you very much. All right, have a good one. You bet. Have a great night. Phil Kirpin, again, American Commitment. Up next, we have got Roof Savers of Colorado, and Dave Hart would love to help you with all of your roofing needs, whether it's commercial, whether it's residential. I actually sent a friend of mine all of his information. He's got a roof that he needs looked at up north. Dave will go all the way up into the Cheyenne area, so don't worry about that. Even if you're up in that Fort Collins, Loveland, Berthoud, Longmont area, yes, he'll go there as well. 303-710-6916.
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The best export we have is Common Sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Nine News actually published this earlier this morning, and that is the U.S. economy expanded at a surprising 3.8% pace, which, by the way, is a significant upgrade from the second quarter growth. As a reminder, it's a lot of what Scott Garlis and I have been talking about on Wednesdays, not Jordan Goodman, on Tuesdays. We talk to Jordan once a month. And Jordan, as you guys all know, is on the left side of the aisle, doesn't think things are going quite as well, you know, blames a lot of the woes that we have, like a lot of folks on the left do on, you know, tariffs and Trump's policy and this, that and the other. And reality is I don't. have been saying no that's not going to have any real effect when it's all said and done the economy is still going to grow could we be doing a lot better than we are right now think about this we're at 3.8 percent and had the fed done what they needed to do six months ago in regards to rates we would even be at a higher pace and we would have been there much faster Remember, we've got an entire sector of the economy called real estate, which is a really big sector of the economy. I didn't look it up today to see exactly how big it is, but it's big. In Trump's words, it's huge. And it's faltering mainly because— of the Fed. And not doing and I know somebody's gonna text me say the Fed doesn't control mortgage rates. Yeah, they do. In an indirect way. They do. I understand how all that works and where the 30 year mortgage is, and where it comes from and what it's based on and so on. I also know that yes, indeed, it has an effect. The other thing that it's affecting, Joe and I didn't get a chance to talk about this. There was an article out today, CarMax, who's one of the biggest used car dealers in the country, is taking a major hit right now because a lot of their inventory of used cars keep mine. They keep inventory in some cases for probably longer than they want to, but a week or two or three. They most likely try to get those cars moved within 30 days. That's kind of the standard in that industry, or sooner if they can. But the market on used cars is coming down right now. mainly on bigger trucks and that really hardcore, and there are a lot of vehicles in that midsize SUV market. We talk about that a lot on Drive Radio. I get people that even call in and ask about that particular segment. What should I buy? And so on. They got a lot of inventory, and they're taking a hit, and mainly because two things. One is interest rates. People just can't buy a new car, or a used car for that matter. And given the fact that they can't do either, what's sitting there sits. New and used. Now, there's always going to be a certain amount of buys that are made because people have accidents, they total their car, insurance steps in, all sorts of different things. So people are going to buy cars no matter what, no matter how bad the economy gets, there's still going to be cars sold, but not at the range that CarMax needs right now. Not at the rate, I should say, that CarMax needs. So they're taking a big hit right now because interest rates and... the fact that they're high on new and used, and because new cars aren't selling and that inventory is rising, meaning they'll start discounting those cars, and as new cars become cheaper as far as the discount structure is concerned, or they write in X amount of money for a 0% loan, which there are right now, whatever the case is, when they lower the price of a new car, used car prices naturally drop as well. My point is... Because of interest rates being where they're at with the Fed, and that does directly affect the price of buying a car. The Fed does, I mean. In turn, you're seeing some faltering even in the used car world right now, new and used car. So my point is you could fix a lot of this. And the Fed could have even done a better job last week instead of doing a quarter point, should have done a half point. But as I keep saying, and I know I sound like a broken record, they're way behind. They're not doing what's necessary. Jerome Powell is fighting with Donald Trump and literally affecting the middle class, the middle America at the same time. Doesn't care at the end of the day. I believe wholeheartedly he knows what he's doing there, but he's got that smug attitude of, I don't really care. I'm not in that world. I don't play by those rules. I don't care. That's Jerome Powell. So in spite of Jerome and the things that he hasn't done, we still grew at a 3.8% pace. That's actually really good. And frankly, it will go up if you can get... The Fed on track doing what really Donald Trump wants to do. And this is another area where, you know, a lot of you had talked earlier in the four o'clock hour about those that want the purity test all the time, even with Donald Trump. He doesn't do this. He doesn't do that. Well, you know what? The one thing that he does do well in and that he almost gets right every single time, he's very seldom ever wrong, is the economy. People forget, you know, Donald Trump's background and what he actually has done, what he actually studied even in school, in college, economics. I'll tell you right now, he understands it better than the Fed does. That's my opinion, and I don't think I'm wrong in that. He has a sharper, better understanding of it than the current Fed board and the current Fed chair does. So there's one thing that he's normally not wrong in, and that's the economy, and he knows what it takes to get it going, but you also have to have the other players, i.e. the Fed, participating. We've got the Treasury participating. He's got percent doing what's needed as far as that is concerned. And by the way, if it wasn't for him, we'd really be in bad shape. So you can thank Donald Trump for having him there because that's helping out immensely. So at any rate, we did have good growth. We're going to see more growth. We've got to get things back on track when it comes to the Fed. Real estate has to pick back up. That's the biggest thing I think Donald Trump is concerned about right now when it comes to the economy, and we'll see how he handles that as Speaking of finances and all of that, Golden Eagle Financial is next. Give Al a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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I don't normally complain about things like I'm going to complain about, but I was just telling Charlie a moment ago that a lot of nights, depending upon traffic and directions and so on, but in a lot of nights, because of the express lanes now on I-70, I run up 225, hit I-70, and head west. And yes, I hop in the express lane because I want to get home. I'm not dinking around for another 10 minutes waiting in traffic. I got stuff to do. And for some of you, you probably know that on 225, they're doing some nighttime construction in regards to some of the ramps or not ramps, but some of the bridges and some of the approaches. And there's some uneven asphalt and things going on there, and they're trying to get some of that stuff smoothed out. So they're doing some work on the road at night, or it's supposed to be. Last night... Traffic gets to be snarled up on 225, and I'm looking like, what in the world is going on? And I continue to look, and all of a sudden I get to where there's some construction and some cones, and it goes from whatever it is, four lanes down to three lanes down to two lanes, and finally down to one lane. I'm like, this is supposed to be later at night. What is going on? This is, you know, 630 in the evening. And come to find out, one lonely... Barricade guy, probably working for CDOT, evidently had his wires crossed because I guarantee you he's not supposed to be out there putting cones up at 630. He started probably even earlier, probably started at 545 to 6 because he had traffic all snarled up. Only guy out there laying out cones, blocking everything down to one lane. What an absolute knucklehead. That just goes to show you that between CDOT, in this case the subcontractor, somebody got their wires crossed, and this guy did not care. He didn't care that he had traffic backed up for miles. Literally miles. Did not care. Kind of had that attitude of it doesn't matter. All right, that's my complaint from last night. Tomorrow's show, Andy's got Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie, and Dead of Winter, and then Hour 2, we're going to do movie mysteries for Movie Rental Hour. You guys be safe, and again, be safe in traffic, as I stated a moment ago. Enjoy your night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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And what they do is they prey on our decency. They're preying on our decency. They're preying on our ability to speak the truth to power. That's what this whole anti-fascist move is. Notice, they don't call out an organization. They call it anti-fascism. Okay? Because they don't want you fighting against fascism. But that's what we're doing here. He's so stupid.
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I am made of jokes right now, and I'm trying to sift through them mentally to figure out which one is appropriate. Kane, can I say... Sorry, give me a second. Can I say... Can I say that? Yeah, I think so.
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Okay. Most of that's okay.
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Okay, so I said, well, who shoved a porcupine up his ass? Like, who... Have you noticed that every time you hear him talk, he's just so mad about everything? Oh my gosh. What is fascist? I didn't think you could define it.
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Matter of fact, I think Cambridge and other places have been redefining what fascism is and not at all pinning it on the left where it absolutely belongs.
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I'm so done with this. So he's mad because... What? It's a day that ends in Y. What is he mad about today?
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And how does... The Incredible Hulk sound more articulate.
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I feel like he and Mark Hamill are in a bish, B-I-S-H, off. Right? I didn't say anything sassy. Look, I'm telling you, I ain't Big Bird. Don't be sitting your kids in front of me for screen time, okay? Because they will walk away hating the Fed and thinking all taxes are theft and they're going to want to buy a gun. So I'm just warning you now. Or you may like that. That's how my kids were raised. Anyway. I feel like he and Mark Hamill are constantly in a fight to see who can be the biggest whiner on the left. Did you guys, by the way, did you guys hear the story of the Jezebel? I remember we had it as a headline. It's a website named after a whore that a bunch of other women think is empowering to write under. Can you imagine telling your parents, yes, I write for a website named after a biblical whore. Jezebel, who ended up getting her just desserts. And I mean, let's not forget how she ended. I mean, way to way to go and pick in a winner there, ladies. Anyway, they were talking about these witches that put a curse. The story of the witches that were cursing Charlie Kirk and then people were reacting to it. And all the people on the left were like, gosh, what is this? The 1600s. How dare you? I can't believe you guys are getting mad over these witches. Like, what is wrong with it? It's not the 1600s. You are the people who literally flay your male copulatory organs and turn them into frankenjiners. And then you want everyone to believe that you're a lady. You guys literally believe that with the snap of your fingers, you can bippity boppity boo some boobs on. You guys are literally the people who get upset over pancake syrup and pancake mixes and butter and everything else. And you're going to get you're going to try to point fingers at other people for objecting to the story of individuals cursing someone. Yeah, maybe you ought to be reminded that it isn't the 1600s. Welcome to 2025, where women can vote and they can do more than just be abortion machines for Planned Parenthood. Welcome to 2025, where we women can do math and we realize that we were getting screwed over a barrel by the last Democrat administration. Yeah, you're right, ladies. It's not the 1600s anymore. Also, find a better Boudica other than the whore from the Bible who ended up getting thrown to her death. Good night. Our partners over at Kel-Tec. PR-57, I think, is one of my favorite 5.7s. It's a rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7s. Super light. 40% lighter than the competition. Shoots like a dream, too. Trigger sweet. Really simple, easy field strip. Really low recoil as well. And if you're wondering how is it lighter than all of the competition, I mean, it's a 5.7. They accomplish this in a couple of different ways. So you have the rotary barrel, number one, that contributes to the lightweight design. But also a very unique top-loading design. They actually replaced traditional magazines with... with stripper clips. So that gives it a slimmer carry profile, and you have 20 plus 1 capacity. Super affordable. MSRP is only $399. It's from Kel-Tec. It is the Rotary Barrel Pistol Chambered N57 PR57. You can learn more at keltecweapons.com, K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com, Tell them Dana sent you.
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I didn't watch the South Park thing yesterday. Apparently they aired, as the New York Post describes it, a merciless spoof of FCC Chairman Brendan Carr over Jimmy Kimmel, blah, blah, blah. I really don't care. But, I mean, if it's funny, it's funny. Funny is funny. We on the right don't get offended over everything the way the left does. Like Charlie Kirk, when he got parodied by South Park, he did a video where he was like, this is the greatest thing ever. And he was so excited about it. And then he used the South Park version of himself as his avatar on all these platforms. So they did... I'll just tell you. They did a spoof on Brendan Carr. And apparently... It shows car falling down greased stairs. He eats a laced stew that makes him soil his pants. He lands into the hospital with toxoplasmosis. What is that, Kane? You know all these things. seen it before but i don't i don't anyway and the doctor warns if the toxoplasmosis parasite gets to his brain i may i am afraid he may lose his freedom of speech and then vice president jd vance in the show is overjoyed that car is in critical condition since he wants any potential road box roadblocks to his presidency out of the way and he threatens car on his hospital bed we can do this the easy way or the hard way and the that's what they i mean I still think the way they do Vance is actually funny. That is actually funny. Like, I think it's because they use all the memes of his head for his face. And it's hysterical. But the car thing, I'm going to need a little bit more than someone deuce in their drawers, man, to laugh at. Right. You know, I'm going to need a little bit. By the way, can I just say, how much does the South Park version of Brendan Carr look like the actual version of Brendan Carr? Right. Like when they did Barbra Streisand, it didn't look anything like her. When they did Robert Smith, it didn't look anything like him. This looks just like Brendan Carr. If he does not make this like his masthead on X, I'm going to be really disappointed.
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I think we know him enough to know that he's going to love that.
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Yeah, he will actually like it. But that's just not funny. I want it to be funny. Make it funny. There are things that you can do without going, oh, he blanked his pants.
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You know what I loved about what they did over these past couple few years is they've taken the media narrative of what's going on and used that as comedy because they knew it was absurd. But now what they're doing is sort of supporting the current media narrative, which is absurd.
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Yeah. And they know how this stuff works. They know how regulation of airwaves works. And I told you guys yesterday, you know, when Sinclair filed the complaint with the FCC and they said that they were not going to have his show, that is – for people who aren't in broadcasting, that is the – Standard operating procedure and that, OK, somebody this this cluster or these stations or this company, they file this notice. The FCC has to look at it. So that's the only reason why the FCC was even involved in the first place is because that actually is they're required by statute that that's how they follow up. Anyway, long story short, it's not a First Amendment issue. And I think it belittles the First Amendment issue to say it's a First Amendment issue. And we talked about this. I'm not going to relitigate it. These are the companies that they have to do what they think is right by their listeners. And that's their right to do so also. Those stations also have rights. My whole issue is I've watched South Park since the beginning. And I feel like sometimes, like all shows, they go through peaks and valleys. And some of the valleys, they've gone through this before where they're just not as funny. And then they come back new season and it's funny again. I don't want comedy to suffer any more than it has. Comedy has already suffered so much because of the woke stuff. And you can't laugh at things that are funny. I don't want unbridled progressive rage to take over and kill comedy because just trying to create things as a means of shock is to exercise your rage that's not funny that's just boring any basic animal can do that any basic animal can be shocking you know i've seen apes throw feces shocking i've seen dogs eat vomit shocking anything can be shocking It doesn't take a lot of wit. It doesn't take a lot of creativity. I just expected a little bit more, right? Be funnier. I don't care who you make fun of. Just please, for the love of all things holy, be funny. Showing somebody, oh, look, can you believe it? He fell on the stairs. Oh, my gosh, he's got a pair. Oh, he grabbed his pants. That's not funny. That's just basic. And I know they can do better than this. I don't know. Maybe they had to switch some stuff out because of the Kirk stuff and this was all they could cobble together that week. I don't know. But it just seemed flat. Although the J.D. Vance thing is always funny. And I, you know, I don't dislike Vance. I don't dislike, you know, I like him. It's funny. But this isn't funny. It wasn't funny. I don't know. The Cartman thing, even being Kirk, was funny. This isn't funny, though. It just seems like they were mad and they thought we're going to try to troll him at some point. Controlling someone is just it just gets annoying for the viewer. If all you're doing is the same outrage. And this is some advice for some people on the right. If all you're doing is just every day you're outraged. Oh, my gosh. And you just you are so outraged. You forget how to be funny. That's when it's just blows for the viewer. It's just bad. And I don't want them to be like this. Because I feel like in some respects, they sort of prevented the left from entirely losing their sense of humor. Because most of the left has. And it's just, does that make sense? It just gets boring. Doesn't it get boring when all you're doing every day is trolling? It's the same stuff every stupid day. Oh, let's see what predictable garbage they came out with today. It's just not funny anymore. Just be funny. Damn. Quit being so damn sensitive. goodness it's not the it's not the punk rock south park that i you know kind of that i remember and of all the people to get you know jimmy kimmel wasn't i i think disney was trying to offload him and uh then they realized gosh maybe we should just it's they're paying protection jimmy kimmel is their version of paying the woke mafia protection don't do anything to us that's what this says you know it is it's just like that So I don't know. Our friends at All Family Pharmacy. This website can never cease business because I will not know what to do. I love All Family Pharmacy. I use it. Not only can you get the stuff that gatekeepers try to keep from you, the hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, the whole nine yards, NAD+. all of that. But you can also get your emergency medications and daily medications. You can get antibiotics. Like for instance, if I know that I'm getting strep, I've had it enough. I know what it is. I'm not an idiot. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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The new... This makes me... This better not be electric. I didn't read this story before. These are the ones they like to surprise me with. New fastest car on the planet beats Bugatti to record speeds of 308.4 miles per hour. Now there's some asterisks here. Oh my gosh. It's an electric vehicle. Burn all of these plants. I am so done with it. I don't think that counts. I think electric vehicles are like the trainees of the car world. They are. You can quote me on it forever because they are. And I'm right. And I'm tired of pretending that I'm not. Again, I'm under the weather, super crabby, and I hate EVs. So it and Kane, it gets even worse. It's not just I'm going to just get sick all over this mic. It's not just an EV that did it. It's a Chinese EV that did it. This is like beating an eagle in front of me. What?
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Twist the knife. Why don't you?
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I am done with this. It's I'm not even naming the car because it doesn't count. It's a trainee. And they did it at this Poppenberg testing facility. And they had Mark Bassing. He's like, you know, world champ. And it eclipses the previous record that was set by the Bugatti Super Short 300 prototype. So they had. Oh, gosh, I'm sick. I'm sick in my soul now getting past this horrible headline. The CDC warns a surge in highly antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Okay, here's a couple things. Don't take antibiotics unless you know you need them. And then when you take the antibiotics, if you don't take all of them, if I were president, I feel like your neighbors should have the full right and be excluded from any penalty, the ability to drag you out of your house by the hair on your head and beat you almost to death in the street. Because that is how you get... the antibiotic resistant stuff when you don't finish your dosage when you don't do it so they said this has been happening for a long time i don't know why everybody's like red lighting it now because they've been discovering that they've become increasingly resistant we also haven't had any new antibiotics in well, what, my life? Like, I think it's been that long. Yeah, I mean, it's been a long time. And by the way, some of these resistant, antibiotic-resistant bacteria, they're causing about a thousand deaths in the U.S. every year. This is according to the latest numbers out in 2022. So I've been seeing this for quite some time. It's incredibly important to make sure you finish it. And apparently Houston may have a serial killer problem, or maybe it's a social media problem. And Did you hear about this show that they pulled? It is called The Savant. I made mention of this yesterday. Speaking of divisiveness. It's going to be on Apple TV. And I mentioned this yesterday with Jessica Chastain. So I really think, and I was reading, let me pull this up. So someone previewed, previewed it. And they said, yeah, it really does look like this was this character who was trying to infiltrate radical right wing like white dudes groups like on Discord, for instance. And she stars as this computer Karen who infiltrates all of these groups. And they decided to postpone it. They said that this week in a statement to Deadline Hollywood. Now, they wouldn't say why, but everyone thinks it's the subject matter behind it. And the fact that they were about to smear and defame a whole bunch of people simply because they don't like their politics. Apparently, the series included a sniper in action and the bombing of a government building. And then, of course, we have, you know, the assassination of Charlie Kirk that took place. And you had a leftist that was shooting into an ABC affiliate, shooting into an ICE facility and putting bombs under media vehicles. Those are all left wing. And it followed the premise or the synopsis of it as it follows an undercover investigator known as the savant. And that's Chastain. And she infiltrates these online hate groups to stop domestic extremists before they act. In the trailer, her character says, we're on the verge of serious violence. And they got a bunch of other people that I don't know in this. I think that they were getting ready to push the, ratchet it up even more. Don't you think so, Kane? Oh, yeah. I mean, look, it sounds like that's exactly what it sounds like they were going to do.
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No, without a doubt. And they even padded this in advance by saying, well, Donald Trump's name was never mentioned in the show, not even once.
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We just had a guy that had his total likeness. Right.
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It's like everything aligns with how the media narrative has been trying to play out for the last few years. And it's completely obvious to all of us.
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Yeah. Yeah, they said, well, it doesn't mention his name, and it just depicts white nationalists in a negative light. It's non-controversial. You know what? And it's about one woman trying to stop domestic terrorism. The computer Karen. Sorry if your name's Karen. Please don't send me emails about it. It's a cultural thing. I didn't make it up. I literally will read your name and email address out loud if you do. Just not into it. Get over it. The... They make it sound like some middle-aged woman is going to barge into all these Discord servers. What are you guys doing? Hey there, fellow kids. Do you believe this? Do you guys believe any of this? Nobody does. But I do think that they... It sounds like they were going to make a bad example of a Charlie Kirk kind of character. That's what it sounds like. Now, this comes on the heels, and I'm going to dive into this more coming up in our second hour. Have you guys heard of this study about right-wing extremism? I see all these stupid progressives out there sharing it. Have you seen it, Kane? I'm going to have my turmeric tea here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I sure have.
SPEAKER 01 :
This ridiculous study that The Atlantic pulled out. First, let me just frame it like this. It is a stupid study that in order to try to get the numbers that they wanted, they pulled an Everytown for Gun Control trick. So in Everytown for Gun Control and Moms Demand, you know, the box wine moms, all AstroTurf groups, whenever they were trying to scare suburban families about school shootings, what they did is they made up all of these different scenarios and just padded the numbers with it. So I did a deep dive into this in my first book. And literally one of the things that they did was they would use, for instance, they called it a school shooting that took place in Virginia, but it wasn't. It was literally a drug deal at two in the morning, three blocks away from the school that they decided to frame, I'm not exaggerating, as a school shooting. And then there was another incident of a contractor who was working at the school and he was there on a weekend after hours in the morning. And he did something where he accidentally like fired into his leg inside his vehicle. So I don't know if he didn't have something properly holstered or what. They counted that as a school shooting. So this is the stuff I'm talking about. They did the exact same thing with a study. They in order to pad their numbers, they counted all of the prison crimes and tried to say that, well, here's an example of right wing. And then they eliminated all of the left wing stuff. So if you wanted to make it right-wing, left-wing in prison, they eliminated the left-wing stuff in the prisons. They only cut the right-wing stuff in the prisons. And then they added it to the outside of the prison population and then used that as an example of, oh, look, this is right-wing. Now, they didn't release their methodology in the beginning and people were scratching their heads like, this doesn't even add up. This isn't even, what are you talking about? And then when people started going through it after it was released, they realized you guys literally lied. You lied about this. So we're going to talk more about this coming up because I see leftists, like I saw some stupid leftists trying to argue with some of you, like our listeners and that out there. And it's always somebody that has, Cain, like a million emojis. If you're a grown person, especially if you're a grown man or a grown woman, if you're a grown adult and you're using emojis in your handles on social media, I just want to hook you up behind a car and just drive 100 miles an hour. Jokingly, ha ha ha. I just, whenever you have all those identifiers, BLM and all this other stupid stuff, you're just, every time you add a letter, you're just lowering your IQ. And it's all those people that are, like, in the comments arguing with everything. Sometimes I think they're bots. Some of them, they're just people that have no lives. But it's an entirely bunk study.
SPEAKER 02 :
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