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Welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. Feeling a little under the weather. I've been burning both ends since Christmas without a vacation since Christmas. So we're burning both ends here. Anytime I've been out, it's been work. But I wanted to say that I really want... I really want to know how they interpret the Trump insults to Erdogan because you heard the lady going in the back. You heard her in the back the whole time. And whenever he starts saying someone's low IQ, I just want to know how that translates and what she's saying to Erdogan. Well, he's saying they're very stupid. They're very stupid. They're very dumb. I just really want to know how that works. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour. Of the show. And we have Erdogan, Tayyip Erdogan, who's there visiting with POTUS. And POTUS has said repeatedly that he wants Turkey to stop buying the oil and gas from Russia, which is a very big deal. And they were talking NATO, etc. But he was saying they need to stop buying oil and gas from Russia, which I agree. And we've been trying to amp up our production. Although one of the things that we've always had to... fight with is democrats who push back on any kind of expansion as it pertains to refineries things of that nature so it's been uh it's been difficult to amp up production when you have no capacity beyond i mean what since the 70s we haven't expanded it since the 70s Meanwhile, the Saudis and the Emiratis, they are building refineries like, you know, there's it's like they're going out of style. So it's always been an issue. Now, the demand that he made of Erdogan, I thought was very interesting. So we'll see how that goes. They're having their public meet and greet in front of the press. And then after that, they're going to go behind closed doors. And that's when the real conversation begins. And it's going to be very interesting. He's a very... Erdogan, I'm ambivalent. He's kind of a chaos neutral character because he, you know, the Bosphorus Strait right there, that is a very important waterway. If you know your geography, the Bosphorus Strait there represents. right between going into the black sea go and then you have to cross through that straight in turkey right there by istanbul going through to out to the mediterranean that is a uh it's a very i mean that's a choke point it's a choke point like the panama canal is a choke point it's a choke point like uh the suez is a choke point so it's um it's an incredibly important waterway And I think the control of that is one of the reasons why Erdogan has never really I think that may be a couple of other reasons. They have a pretty, pretty beefy military over there. And they actually do spend quite a bit on their defense. I can't say that for other nations, but Turkey does. And I think that that's given him a lot of power. So he doesn't have to roll over to the Russians or Chinese the way a lot of other nations do. That said, it all also attracts the Russians and the Chinese to court him like there's no tomorrow. And so he has this closer relationship with Russia than makes than than most are comfortable with, which is what the president kept picking at. And his comments, if you notice that he just kept pick picking at it. It was actually really I don't know if you could tell, but in his opening remarks, you know, he's going to rhetorically got him behind closed doors. He was leading up to the he complimented him. He was like, he's a great leader. He's very influential. You know, the gas, though. Got to stop buying that oil and gas from them. I mean, that's just a bad thing. And he said that. How many times did he say that, Cain? He said that repeatedly throughout those. So he's going to be hammering him on that. And then did you catch the other thing he said? They go, because they were talking about the... some of the tariffs that were implemented and whether they can go lower, because he's already rolled many back as it pertains to Turkey, as long as Turkey meets the demands and expectations that are set forth in the agreement by the U.S. And then they were asking if Turkey was going to get a couple of other things. And he said, well, you know, it depends on how well these discussions go. I mean, it could be almost immediately. So he's like really dangling the carrot out there in front of Erdogan. And it's this is going to be a hard because they've met many times. And so this is kind of like the hard close. Right. This is the are you going to do it or do I walk away? So it's going to be a very interesting discussion. It's nice that he's there. Erdogan. See, instead of Russia and all of them going to to meet Erdogan, Erdogan came to D.C. to meet Trump. And so. We'll see how this goes. But I think it's a very good sign. And Erdogan and Trump, despite the fact that neither of them speak the other's language, they get along really well. They get along very well. So, you know, we'll see. We'll see how this all goes. And in addition to that, we've got a couple of other things to hit. You heard some of the questions that were being asked. In fact, one of the last questions that was asked was one on James Comey. And if you are not following the news, he's expected to be indicted soon in a Virginia federal court. This came out late yesterday. It's an expected indictment. Comes on the heels of a top prosecutor. And they said that they're anticipating this. this happening. So we'll see how this goes. And then also in the meantime, in addition to this, a couple of other things, we also have this new survey that's out. Now, this is the third one now. There was one that was from Reuters and one that was from and it was like another university's poll. And they're all independently finding the same things. So this one from Quinnipiac says nearly eight in 10 voters say that the United States is in a political crisis. Now, this is the third one that talks about the severe divide. The other two previously said. touched upon how violence is considered an acceptable form of debate and it's considered an acceptable form of discourse and that it's justified so long as the means justify the ends. And so this kind of dovetails into it. Eight in 10 say that the U.S. is in a political crisis. And they're focusing on between right and left. We're going to break some of this down here with all of this. So there's a lot to digest. Now, in addition to this, earlier today, Pete Hegseth ordered a meeting of hundreds of generals and admirals. I feel like MSNBC is being very dramatic about this. You can almost hear the breathlessness of the headline if you're watching MSNBC. If you're watching the simulcast of the radio program, you can almost hear the breathlessness of it. Hexeth orders a rare, urgent meeting of... Wait, so you mean the guy, the secta... Not secta. Secwar? Wants to meet with generals? Stop the presses. Oh my gosh. You mean the Secretary of War is going to be meeting with the people who do the war? What? Boss meets with employees. News at 11. Why are people freaking out over this? Am I missing something? Can I get up one day? I'm under the weather, so I'm really crabby today. Can I get up one damn day and have the media not having an Accutane rage-fueled MyDoll moment? It would be amazing. Is it possible to get there one day without these rat bastards? Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Pete Huggs has a meeting with his employees. That's what he does. You... clown cars. That's what he does. That's what he's expected to do. Our partners that make it possible, the folks over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that's out there. And I hope that – I call them Glenny, the people who founded Patriot Mobile, Glenn and Jenny. We just call them Glenny collectively. They both came. They both got under the weather because Patriot Mobile was at the memorial. They were big sponsors and supporters of Turning Point, TPUSA, and really good friends of Charlie's. And they went out there and they got sick and I didn't. What is up with that? Of course, I don't. But what is up with that, right? Anyway, so Patriot Mobile is such a great company. It's been my personal cell phone service for over 10 years now. When I tell people they're wrong on the internet, it's because it's powered by Patriot Mobile. But you're going to pay less than what you paid previously. I can sit here and tell you all the things you want to hear. You're going to save money. They can tailor plans to you, businesses of all sizes, families of all sizes, singles, dinks, donks, whatever you are. They can tailor something to you. 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The new... This makes me... This better not be electric. I didn't read this story before. These are the ones they like to surprise me with. New fastest car on the planet beats Bugatti to record speeds of 308.4 miles per hour. Now there's some asterisks here. Oh my gosh. It's an electric vehicle. Burn all of these plants. I am so done with it. I don't think that counts. I think electric vehicles are like the trainees of the car world. They are. You can quote me on it forever because they are. And I'm right. And I'm tired of pretending that I'm not. Again, I'm under the weather, super crabby, and I hate EVs. So it and Kane, it gets even worse. It's not just I'm going to just get sick all over this mic. It's not just an EV that did it. It's a Chinese EV that did it. This is like beating an eagle in front of me. What?
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I am done with this. It's I'm not even naming the car because it doesn't count. It's a trainee. And they did it at this Poppenberg testing facility. And they had Mark Bassing. He's like, you know, world champ. And it eclipses the previous record that was set by the Bugatti Super Short 300 prototype. So they had. Oh, gosh, I'm sick. I'm sick in my soul now getting past this horrible headline. The CDC warns a surge in highly antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Okay, here's a couple things. Don't take antibiotics unless you know you need them. And then when you take the antibiotics, if you don't take all of them, if I were president, I feel like your neighbors should have the full right and be excluded from any penalty, the ability to drag you out of your house by the hair on your head and beat you almost to death in the street. Because that is how you get... the antibiotic resistant stuff when you don't finish your dosage, when you don't do it. So they said this has been happening for a long time. I don't know why everybody's like red lighting it now, because they've been discovering that they've become increasingly resistant. We also haven't had any new antibiotics in Well, what, my life? Like, I think it's been that long. Yeah, I mean, it's been a long time. And by the way, some of these resistant antibiotic resistant bacteria, they're causing about a thousand deaths in the U.S. every year. This is according to the latest numbers out in 2022. So I've been seeing this for quite some time. It's incredibly important to make sure you finish it. And apparently Houston may have a serial killer problem or maybe it's a social media problem. And social media is sort of a digital serial killer. So Charles Payne now cannot join. But we do have a lot more coming up. Stick with us. Preborn is a great organization that saves families. They save babies. And the issue of abortion is still super critical. You have over 60 there. I mean, there really were. I think, what, over 66 million abortions that occurred since Roe v. Wade. And even though Roe v. Wade, through another decision, has been undone, that hasn't changed the scale of abortions. In fact, medical, the medication that abortions, the abortion pill, the medication they give for abortifacients, that accounts for over 60 percent of abortions now. It's becoming less brick and mortar and more abortifacients. Preborn offers free ultrasound services that double the chance that a mother chooses life. There have been numerous studies about this. When a mother hears her baby's heartbeat for the first time, that baby's chance at life doubles. And they partner with pregnancy clinics. They provide free maternity clothes, diapers, counseling, and support for up to two years to make sure that this child This young family gets off, this fledgling family gets off on the best start. And they've saved over 380,000 babies since their inception in 2007. And they've counseled over a half a million women. Now, just last year, 67,000 babies saved. Nearly 9,000 women came to Christ. They want to double all these numbers. They would like to have 80,000 babies this year. Almost doubled. 80,000 babies this year. And they operate without government funding. It's all for you. All by you. $28 sponsors one ultrasound. $140 sponsors five larger gifts. You can support entire clinics or purchase ultrasound machines. Become a hero today. Everything's tax deductible and you're saving lives. You can become a monthly sponsor, get updates and photos. Visit preborn.com slash Dana or dial pound 250 on your phone. Say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 keyword baby.
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Listen, it should not matter whether the radicalization comes from the right or the left or, you know, sort of the non-ideological deep dark recesses of the internet. This president, this vice president has had a chance now since the assassination of Charlie Kirk to bring the country together to try to stamp out all sorts of violence, including political violence, and they refuse to do that. What they are trying to do is exploit these murders and these shootings in order to silence only dissent and political opposition on the left. No, criticizing the way that ICE is rounding up people in this country in a deeply inhuman and immoral way is not an incitement to violence. There is a moment where you cross the line. But what they are trying to do is to destroy the ability for people who oppose their policies to legitimately engage in political debate. And we are not going to let them do that.
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Did I accidentally get high? I mean, look, so welcome to the show. That's Senator Chris Murphy. The reason I said that, and I have my tea over here. I don't care if we're doing professional lady radio. By the way, my spoon is shaped like a skull. It's pretty awesome. Thank you for Dana Commandatory for sending me that. So I'm drinking a turmeric ginger tea because your girl's under the weather. And I just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally overdose on my sinus medication or antibiotics or anything like that. no i didn't overdose i mean i don't know what i heard the same thing i didn't accidentally take one of those um did i did i accidentally get sent like one of those um oh gosh what marijuana gummy things that dan patrick is so terrified of and that's what happened and i'm hallucinating or something i don't know if you hallucinate but i'm just you know bear with me is that's what is that what's happening here okay so first off The moment that you immediately start trying to define your opponent in the most egregious, hyperbolic way possible, you are already trying to run away from the crux of the argument. And that's the signal that you've already lost, right? And by the way, this isn't like a one-off for the left. I mean, can I just remind everybody, Tim Walz was describing ICE agents. He called them, I'll remind you. You remember what Tim Walz described ICE? how he described ICE agents, quote, Donald Trump's modern day Gestapo. I mean, I'm just looking at a long list of quotes, and then I'm not going to belabor the point by stressing Juan out to the point of having a stroke by making him play a million different cuts of audio. But that's just one. Or what about Representative John Larson, a Democrat out of Connecticut, who called masked ICE agents literally the SS, repeatedly called them the Gestapo, and I have all the dates that he said this on, and urging Americans to quote-unquote rise up against them. So... Immediately what you're doing is when you call someone, and I have to explain this for the drive-bys, when you're having a conversation and you immediately call someone, you are the Gestapo. You are a Nazi. You are signaling right there that any hope of reasoned discourse is out of the window. You are done because you are starting from the point of vilifying your opponent and as being the worst possible example of immorality in recent culture that you can give. I mean, that's just maybe one level up from calling them Satan itself, right? Or maybe, I don't know. How do you expect to have civil discourse when you begin by calling your opponent Nazis and Gestapo? So I don't know what Chris Murphy's talking about here. Because when he says, well, comparing ICE agents to Nazis doesn't constitute incitement to violence. Well, you people are the ones who've said that me merely owning a firearm and supporting gun rights means that I'm a domestic terrorist and that I should suffer penalties for it. And Chris Murphy's own colleagues in Congress have said that I've had sitting members of Congress literally verbatim call me an enemy of the state. and a domestic terrorist. Those are the absolute direct quotes that sitting lawmakers have used. So that to me, if you're telling someone this ICE agent is a Nazi, look what they're doing, and it's all of the Democrats, then What do you think? How do you think that that's processed by people who really just I mean, everybody hates Nazis. But how do you think that that people who these are a lot of the people in their base stupid enough to not be able to realize that you're, you know, you're dehumanizing your opposition because it's easier for you to do than to explain why you want open borders? What do you think is going to happen with that? I mean, they're saying these things because they know their street activists are going to enact them. They're saying these things because they know that someone in their street team, someone in their Democratic base is going to react on it. These are the people who said Charlie Kirk's words were violence. They said that over and over again, repeatedly. They described dissent as violence. So I don't buy that. I don't buy that at all. They've deplatformed people because the progressives have not liked their words. I mean, it's a divisive tactic, purposefully inflammatory, and it's designed to skirt any kind of real, actual civil discourse. And for the people who say things like this, what you're, I mean, it is, I do think it's like, you're basically giving an order to just go out and get the, you know, go out and get the next person, go out and get them. That's what it feels like to me. You know, it feels like that. That's like kind of what it feels like they're doing. And the left looks at it as though speech isn't, they'll say, oh no, if it's someone of one of their people, like right now, oh no, speech isn't violence, but then they will use violence to go after your speech because they think your speech is violent. Did you hear about this show that they pulled? It is called The Savant. I made mention of this yesterday. Speaking of divisiveness. It's going to be on Apple TV. And I mentioned this yesterday with Jessica Chastain. So I really think and I was reading. Let me pull this up. So someone previewed previewed it. And they said, yeah, it really does look like this was this character who was trying to infiltrate radical right wing like white dudes groups like on Discord, for instance. And she stars as this computer Karen who infiltrates all of these groups. And they decided to postpone it. They said that this week in a statement to Deadline Hollywood. Now, they wouldn't say why, but everyone thinks it's the subject matter behind it. And the fact that they were about to smear and defame a whole bunch of people simply because they don't like their politics. Apparently, the series included a sniper in action and the bombing of a government building. And then, of course, we have, you know, the assassination of Charlie Kirk that took place. And you had a leftist that was shooting into an ABC affiliate, shooting into an ICE facility and putting bombs under media vehicles. Those are all left wing. And it followed the premise or the synopsis of it as it follows an undercover investigator known as the savant. And that's Chastain. And she infiltrates these online hate groups to stop domestic extremists before they act. In the trailer, her character says, we're on the verge of serious violence. And they got a bunch of other people that I don't know in this. I think that they were getting ready to push the, ratchet it up even more. Don't you think so, Kane? Oh, yeah. I mean, look, it sounds like that's exactly what it sounds like they were going to do.
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No, without a doubt. And they even padded this in advance by saying, well, Donald Trump's name was never mentioned in the show, not even once.
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We just had a guy that had his total likeness. Right.
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It's like everything aligns with how the media narrative has been trying to play out for the last few years. And it's completely obvious to all of us.
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Yeah. Yeah, they said, well, it doesn't mention his name, and it just depicts white nationalists in a negative light. It's non-controversial. You know what? And it's about one woman trying to stop domestic terrorism. The computer Karen. Sorry if your name's Karen. Please don't send me emails about it. It's a cultural thing. I didn't make it up. I literally will read your name and email address out loud if you do. Just not into it. Get over it. The... They make it sound like some middle-aged woman is going to barge into all these Discord servers. What are you guys doing? Hey there, fellow kids. Do you believe this? Do you guys believe any of this? Nobody does. But I do think that they, it sounds like they were going to make a bad example of a Charlie Kirk kind of character. That's what it sounds like. Now, this comes on the heels, and I'm going to dive into this more coming up in our second hour. Have you guys heard of this study about right-wing extremism? I see all these stupid progressives out there sharing it. Have you seen it, Cain? I'm going to have my turmeric tea here.
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Yeah, I sure have.
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This ridiculous study that The Atlantic pulled out. First, let me just frame it like this. It is a stupid study that in order to try to get the numbers that they wanted, they pulled an Everytown for Gun Control trick. So in Everytown for Gun Control and Moms Demand, you know, the box wine moms, all AstroTurf groups, whenever they were trying to scare suburban families about school shootings, what they did is they made up all of these different scenarios and just padded the numbers with it. So I did a deep dive into this in my first book. And literally one of the things that they did was they would use, for instance, they called it a school shooting that took place in Virginia, but it wasn't. It was literally a drug deal at two in the morning, three blocks away from the school that they decided to frame, I'm not exaggerating, as a school shooting. And then there was another incident of a contractor who was working at the school and he was there on a weekend after hours in the morning. And he did something where he accidentally like fired into his leg inside his vehicle. So I don't know if he didn't have something properly holstered or what. They counted that as a school shooting. So this is the stuff I'm talking about. They did the exact same thing with a study. They in order to pad their numbers, they counted all of the prison crimes and tried to say that, well, here's an example of right wing. And then they eliminated all of the left wing stuff. So if you wanted to make it right-wing, left-wing in prison, they eliminated the left-wing stuff in the prisons. They only kept the right-wing stuff in the prisons. And then they added it to the outside of the prison population and then used that as an example of, oh, look, this is right-wing. Now, they didn't release their methodology in the beginning and people were scratching their heads like, this doesn't even add up. This isn't even, what are you talking about? And then when people started going through it after it was released, they realized you guys literally lied. You lied about this. So we're going to talk more about this coming up because I see leftists, like I saw some stupid leftists trying to argue with some of you, like our listeners and that out there. And it's always somebody that has, Cain, like a million emojis. If you're a grown person, especially if you're a grown man or a grown woman, if you're a grown adult and you're using emojis in your handles on social media, I just want to hook you up behind a car and just drive 100 miles an hour. Jokingly, ha ha ha. I just when you whenever you have all those identifiers, BLM and all this other stupid stuff, you're just every time you add a letter, you're just lowering your IQ. And it's all those people that are like in the comments arguing with everything. Sometimes I think they're bots. Some of them, they're just people that have no lives. But it's it's an entirely bunk study that you should absolutely disregard. We'll talk more coming up as we move on. The folks who will bring you the program are friends at All Family Pharmacy. This website can never cease business because I will not know what to do. I love All Family Pharmacy. I use it. Not only can you get the stuff that gatekeepers try to keep from you, the hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, the whole nine yards, NAD+. All of that. But you can also get your emergency medications and daily medications. You can get antibiotics. Like, for instance, if I know that I'm getting strep, I've had it enough. I know what it is. I'm not an idiot. I'm not going to go out there and abuse antibiotics to the point of rendering them ineffective. But I'm not going to go and pay like an $80 whatever fee and go and have a doctor tell me what I know I have and then have to wait. No, no, no. I'm going to go to all family pharmacy, put in my symptoms. The doctor is going to look at it. approve, and then send my prescription in and my medications right to my house. That's how it works. You can get it in two to four days, overnight in a pinch if you need it. I also got my anti-nausea meds when I went on the MRC cruise to Norway. Ladies, I went and got the Latisse for your eyelashes. So if they start looking really good, that's why. You can choose your medication, not insurance or risk-averse physicians. Try it today. Take your medical freedom back. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Use code Dana10 today. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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And what they do is they prey on our decency. They're preying on our decency. They're preying on our ability to speak the truth to power. That's what this whole anti-fascist move is. Notice, they don't call out an organization. They call it anti-fascism. Okay? Because they don't want you fighting against fascism. But that's what we're doing here. He's so stupid.
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I am made of jokes right now, and I'm trying to sift through them mentally to figure out which one is appropriate. Kane, can I say... Sorry, give me a second. Can I say... Can I say that? Yeah, I think so. Okay.
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Most of that's okay.
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Okay, so I said, well, who shoved a porcupine up his ass? Like, who... Have you noticed that every time you hear him talk, he's just so mad about everything? Oh my gosh. What is fascist? I didn't think you needed to find it.
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Matter of fact, I think Cambridge and other places have been redefining what fascism is and not at all pinning it on the left where it absolutely belongs.
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I'm so done with this. So he's mad because... What? It's a day that ends in Y. What is he mad about today?
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And how does... The Incredible Hulk sound more articulate.
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I feel like he and Mark Hamill are in a bish, B-I-S-H, off. Right? I didn't say anything sassy. Look, I'm telling you, I ain't Big Bird. Don't be sitting your kids in front of me for screen time, okay? Because they will walk away hating the Fed and thinking all taxes are theft and they're going to want to buy a gun. So I'm just warning you now. Or you may like that. That's how my kids were raised. Anyway. I feel like he and Mark Hamill are constantly in a fight to see who can be the biggest whiner on the left. Did you guys, by the way, did you guys hear this story of the Jezebel? I remember we had it as a headline. It's a website named after a whore that a bunch of other women think is empowering to write under. Can you imagine telling your parents, yes, I write for a website named after a biblical whore. Jezebel, who ended up getting her just desserts. And, I mean, let's not forget how she ended. I mean, way to go in picking a winner there, ladies. Anyway, they were talking about these witches that put a curse, the story of the witches that were cursing Charlie Kirk. And then people were reacting to it. And all the people on the left were like, gosh, what is this, the 1600s? How dare you guys? I can't believe you guys are getting mad over these witches. Like, what is wrong with you? It's not the 1600s. You are the people who literally flay your male copulatory organs and turn them into frankenjiners. And then you want everyone to believe that you're a lady. You guys literally believe that with the snap of your fingers, you can bippity boppity boo some boobs on. You guys are literally the people who get upset over pancake syrup. and pancake mixes, and butter, and everything else, and you're gonna try to point fingers at other people for objecting to the story of individuals cursing someone? Yeah, maybe you ought to be reminded that it isn't the 1600s. Welcome to 2025, where women can vote and they can do more than just be abortion machines for Planned Parenthood. Welcome to 2025, where we women can do math and we realize that we were getting screwed over a barrel by the last Democrat administration. You know, it's not. Yeah, you're right, ladies, not the 1600s anymore. Also, find a better Boudicca other than a whore from the Bible who ended up getting Thrown to her death. Good night. All right. We got a lot more on the way. Second hour coming up. The folks who won't make the program possible. It's our friends over at Relief Factor. You can help manage everyday aches and pains with Relief Factor, a 100 percent drug free option. It's a research-based formula. It's all created to support a healthy response to inflammation and decrease discomfort from exercise, everyday living, etc. It also helps to maintain healthy joints and muscles and promotes better movement and less pain over time. Now, they use everything from resveratrol, turmeric, and so much more. to do it. But if you deal with aches and pains every single day and you don't want to go on painkillers, heaven forbid, you need to really look at Relief Factor. Again, 100% drug-free. My husband uses it and they make it easy. You can get their three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 95 cents a day. It's less than a cup of coffee. Do not wait. Visit relieffactor.com. It works. My husband takes it in the days that he does and he complains and I make him take it. 804-4-RELIEF. Get your three-week quick start today for just $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you.
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People are wondering what it is about this Muslim mayor who leads a liberal, multicultural, progressive, successful city that means I appear to be living rent-free inside Donald Trump's head. Are those comments Islamophobic? Listen, when people say things When people act in a certain way, when people behave in a certain way, you've got to believe them. So you're saying he is Islamophobic? I think President Trump has shown he is racist, he is sexist, he is misogynistic, and he's Islamophobic. Hmm. Hmm.
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Raise your hand if you care what he thinks. I didn't ask what short stack over there in London town thought. Did you? No. Do you think it's at all Islamophobic? Why? Because he's Muslim and he got disagreed with? Is he that? Oh, God, please put a hand over my mouth right now. Is he that much? I'll use a different word that's very similar. Is he that much of a pansy that he feels that any disagreement with him is because I'm a Muslim? Really? Really? That's like me going, you disagreed with me. Is it because I'm a woman? No, it's because you're a moron. I mean, being a female or being a Muslim has nothing to do with it. Good night. But it's racist to adopt that and use that as like some kind of shield. You can't disagree with me because, see, Muslim. That's not how this works. No one likes Sadiq Khan because he's an arrogant airhead who can't do math. And he's really actually just a dumb Marxist, as all Marxists are. Reminder that Karl Marx's only contribution to this world was feeding the worms that feasted on his over-engorged, disgusting body upon death. There you go. That was the only thing he contributed positively to the world. So, the... Issue is, you know, he was very critical, Trump was, of Sadiq Khan. Because Sadiq Khan's been a horrific mayor. And he's very, very far left. You've seen what's happened in London. London is not even London anymore. And it's completely fine to say that. Because if you're going to have unfettered, completely, you know, unregulated immigration of both the legal and illegal variety, then you have to ask, okay, well, are we... are people assimilating? I remember seeing a debate that, and actually it was a debate that Charlie Kirk had had, and it was one of the only ones that he ever got mad on. When someone tried to misrepresent the Bible, that's when he got mad. But I was thinking of this when I saw some of the people on the left tried to say, well, what grade of American are you? Are you a, you know, your parents didn't come from everywhere. You've been here for forever. Are they did you did your parents immigrate here and then you were born here like what great and I just thought that was so and I saw some people in the right chair and then I thought that is so stupid that's identity politics of the sort that that London town's mayor engages in it's a form of identity politics and this also is what separates us from the city cons and the London's and the Paris's and everything else because over there they're not established around the principle of from many one and I think that's incredibly, that's a very important thing to, it's a very important thing to recognize with the United States. We are built upon this idea that immediately kneecaps and removes all of the other issues that other nations have dealt with. So the e pluribus unum, the reason why, You know, our founders chose it as our national model and it's incredibly important because, you know, to go to what Reagan said in one of his speeches that he gave, I think it was like in the 80s, he had said, you know, you can't go to Italy and be Italian and you can't go to France and be French and you can't go to India and be India and you can't go to South Africa and be South African, but you can come to the United States of America and be American. Now, why is that? What is that common thread? the thread that has this uniting feature that is absent from all of these other nations, the thing that sets the United States apart from all of these nations that I mentioned, and it is because that animating spirit of liberty, which makes everyone kin when they come to the United States, when they want to be free. That is what it means. That is e pluribus unum, from many, one. It is this idea that You believe in liberty. You believe in freedom. You want to enjoy the fruits of your labor. And you want to be in a community where other people believe the same. That is the uniting factor. Freedom is a very, very powerful thing. It is a very powerful thing. You've seen whenever people in other countries, whenever they... get to visit free countries, they get a taste of freedom. It's very, very hard to roll that back. Do you remember, and I love going back to the story when Boris Yeltsin, he went grocery shopping in Clear Lake, Texas. Y'all remember this? This is in 1989, September 1989. And Boris Yeltsin, he literally went grocery shopping in Clear Lake, Texas. Texas, and they had a bunch of Soviets that went with them. This was in 1989. He had a handful of Soviets that went with them. They were at a Randall's supermarket. They toured the Johnson Space Center, and then they went to Randall's supermarket. And later on, Boris Yeltsin wrote that it was one of the big things that opened his eyes. This was, it led to the downfall of communism. His trip to a Randall's supermarket in September of 1989. And it was an unscheduled 20-minute visit. And they just wrapped up at the Johnson Space Center. And they thought, well, let's go to this Randall's. It was very unscheduled. Yeltsin, who was 58 at the time. And he walked into the Randall's and was just shocked. And not just him, but his whole entourage of Soviets. And they realize, even back home, even for some of the more well-placed Russians, Soviets, they would have to wait in line for goods, right? And one of, Yeltsin actually told the other people in his entourage, he had said, if they saw the conditions of U.S. supermarkets, talking about regular, average, everyday Russians, quote, there would be a revolution. And people just couldn't believe it. He was asking people what they were buying, how much it cost. He asked the store manager, according to the Houston Chronicle, whether or not one needed a special education to manage the store. He was even asking questions about government involvement in regulating the store. You know, like that, what's his face, Mandani wants to do up in New York. He was apparently, reportedly, to the Houston Chronicle, super excited about the frozen pudding pops. He had said even Mr. Gorbachev doesn't have this choice is what he had said. And when he was told through his interpreter that there were thousands of items in the store for sale and if they ran out on the shelves of one of those items that they could replace it. I think, Juan, you have the photo of it. I dropped it in Slack. He couldn't believe it. And then they're like, yeah, there are these grocery stores in every American town in every neighborhood. And then he was just blown away. He was like, wait, you mean he and he reiterated even according to Houston Chronicle, even not even Mr. Gorbachev has this choice is what he had verbatim said. He was in shock. Now, they didn't have selfies back then, but they did have reporters. And this is one of the photos that came from it. He was in the frozen section. And that was the other thing. He couldn't believe the frozen section was so big. He couldn't even believe that they had a frozen section. He was so shocked. One of the reporters noted that he was completely over the moon about the pudding pops. And he was given a small bag of goodies before he left Randall's to enjoy the rest of his trip. And they were all looking at the stuff in the motorcade and talking about it. And they just could not get over it. Later on, he had said that it opened his eyes and that this was one of the triggering factors that led to the downfall of communism. Can you believe that? A little 20-minute unscheduled trip to Randall's supermarket. This is my point. Freedom is so powerful. when people get a taste of it, it can absolutely tear down tyranny. It is so powerful. Now, if it is powerful enough to lead to the downfall of communism, if it is powerful enough to free enslaved people and create major republics like this, the greatest nation in the world, It is powerful enough to unite people under that concept of liberty. And this is what makes the United States so different. E pluribus unum. Yeltsin was shocked that someone could come into town and say, I want to open a grocery store and then do it. That is not a concept that he understood or that any of the people in his envoy that they understood. Because that's not how things were done in Russia. So when I say that common denominator, that is it. And that is what a lot of these people that are immigrating into the UK, legally and illegally, flooding into France, that is not something that they understand. They don't have that concept. They can't come from Morocco and be French. They can't come from... Algeria and be English. Do you see what I'm saying? And so they set up these, they have these little, they isolate themselves off into these little communities. That's why I've always thought that we should disencourage that. In the very beginning, it was like that. I mean, I have friends who come from families all over the world. I have friends whose families are from Greece and their families are from Bosnia and their families are from Italy. And they came to the United States and they're like, we're speaking English. And we are adopting the flag and we're going to pick a baseball team and we are American. And they wanted to embrace all of those things about America, the things that represented choice and liberty and fun and freedom. Now, now people come in. Well, look, look at Minneapolis. They don't want American jurisprudence. They want Sharia. They don't want e pluribus unum. They believe that it should only be for a few. It is completely, completely antithetical to the concept of creating this republic. The concept that our founders fought for and established with E Pluribus Unum because they knew that that would be the strength of this nation. They knew that if you could undermine that, you could put cracks in the foundation of this nation. And not only is that the stated goal of CRT slash DEI, but that is a great way to destabilize the nation if you are an invading force that looks like you're carrying out a religious jihad and not a political one, which is what our leaders think that they're fighting here. That is the big thing. So when I hear people like Siddique Khan talk, he has not done anything in London to promote unity or cohesion. Unity or cohesion under e pluribus unum, what we have here. E pluribus unum doesn't demand that you deny who you are. It demands that you embrace what you've become. American, that you embrace freedom. It doesn't mean that you sacrifice where you came from. You sacrifice your background. It means you embrace what you have adopted. You embrace the new family that has welcomed you. We don't do that in the United States anymore. And we see the problems as the result of that. So when I saw some people on the right sharing the whole, well, what grade of American are you? I'm like, that's literally, that is a Soviet thing. That is not American. That's CRT from the other angle. We got more on the way. As we move. So apparently we have to stop falling for the whole higher thread counting because it doesn't necessarily mean better sheets. That's fake news, apparently. It's like believing that you use like 10% of your brain. So the secret isn't thread count, it's thread quality. And this is where Bowling Branch has won A lot of folks over at yours truly, they use the best organic cotton. End of. I mean, these are sheets that feel incredible, like the moment you take them out of the box. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Do you guys want to know what hell sounds like? Do you want to know? Let me give you a description of hell. This is a headline. Flint City Council elects president after 735 rounds of voting. 735 rounds of voting. I would have given up and just taken dictatorial control at this point. It was 10 months. They were locked at 4-4. And then they finally had a break after 735 rounds. I actually would have completely have, I would have rounded up the neighbors and we would have completely taken control of the city and like made the National Guard come out at that point. There's no way. No way.
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Wow. Three in five American workers say they're behind on retirement savings. I've been hearing a lot of this from people from people about this and just like seeing a lot of comments. They say more than one third of American workers, those who are employed full time, part time or temporarily, expect to need a million dollars or more to retire comfortably. Thanks, Biden. Only 50 percent of workers think it's likely that they can reach their retirement savings goals. That is, I need to find out. I also am trying to think of all the different ways I can, you know, tax havens, all that. Like, we'll use all the loopholes, guys. Tiger handler fatally mauled at the Tiger King Preserve. He's in jail, though, so he can't really give a statement. He doesn't run it anymore. But, yeah, very painful tragedy. I wonder if the EMS jacket was brought out like last time. Stay with us. It is the folks over at Super Beach. Super Marine is a product that helps with healthy metabolism and blood sugar support as well. And you guys are very familiar with the Super Beets Chews. This is a plant-based, doctor-formulated supplement. And it has a unique form of high-absorption berberine and an added boost of Italian olive fruit extract for antioxidant and cardiovascular support. So it's not just a new berberine supplement. This is a unique berberine that's clinically studied to deliver nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. It means fewer pills to swallow. and just easy metabolism and healthy blood sugar support in one highly concentrated, easy-to-swallow capsule. It minimizes GI distress with the inclusion of the olive fruit extract and other ingredients. You can find both the new Super Bering and the number one best-selling Super Beats Heart Chews at Sam's Club. Stock up, save on healthy blood pressure support. $5 off Super Beats Heart Chews, 90 count from August 27th to September 21st at Sam's Club. Start today. Get on the road to better cardiovascular health support.
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The irony with the writing, the first time we really saw that was Brenton Tarrant in the Christchurch shootings, shooting in a mosque in New Zealand. And He was a fierce white supremacist and neo-Nazi and wrote all over his weapon and his rounds very hateful information. So to see this coming from potentially the other side of the political spectrum is a little strange because it is not something, if you are trying to carry out some kind of message countering more extreme right-wing stuff. I don't know why you would use a tactic that a famous white supremacist who has been revered and copycatted over the years by other white supremacists, why you would do that. But it does appear that people are moving in that direction because they want people to know what they're doing and why they're doing it.
SPEAKER 12 :
That is, first off, the way that that guy speaks and his cadence. Just finish your sentence, my dude. Just get a thought out of your head without the stopping and starting. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of the second hour. Chats at Rumble. Channel 347 is where you can watch us do the radio show. X as well on Facebook. No one tell that moronic halfwit what they wrote on Little Boy before loading it onto the Enola Gay. And Oleg was the name of the plane named after the pilot's mother and little boy was the bomb. And they had best wishes to the emperor, things like that written on it. This is I mean, that is he thinks that that's like a new fangled thing. So is he saying that World War Two soldiers were white supremacists? That's just dumb. That's a dumb thing. This has been happening since literally the beginning of artillery. They have had messages everywhere. scratched on, written on, painted on somehow. That has happened at the very beginning since we've had artillery. This is just asinine that this guy, that this is his hot take. I'm, you know, I'm curious so he's trying to like that i mean they have photos of bombs and and things like that where it says uh uh that americans and brits and everybody wrote on during world war ii same thing with world war ii i mean this is something that is just as old as warfare what a stupid man um i mean what a stupid man to go on television and say what he just said I don't know. Christopher O'Leary, former FBI senior official. Well, clearly we're not sending them our best. That actually makes me nervous that someone was in leadership and has that viewpoint. Are you serious? I remember. That's one of the things that I first remember learning, honestly, about World War Two. We had a very entertaining teacher and they they told us about the messages. And I remember thinking, by the way, those messages are very polite, like they had greetings to the emperor written on one of the what that was one of the message messages written on little boy. Greetings to the emperor talking about Hirohito that I'm like, so polite. I mean, I know, but it's still, you know what I mean? What in the world is wrong with people? It's just not accurate. If you're trying to carry out some kind of message countering, I don't know why you would use a tactic that a famous, I don't even know the famous white supremacist that he's talking about. I had to look him up. So to see it coming from the other side is weird. This is, again, not something that... Oh, my gosh. They are so desperate to dodge accountability as to what ideology these people are. Let me also point something out as well, because when you talk about the guy who... fired into the ICE facility yesterday. People were saying, well, I can't believe the right's trying to act like he just went there to kill detainees. Why would you go to an ICE headquarters and you have no idea where the detainees are in the facility and just shoot into the facility? If you were actually going to go after illegal immigrants, wouldn't you be going to the places where you know they would be and you would be like carrying out? I'm not encouraging this. I'm just saying use your heads. Obviously, this is so stupid. This is so stupid. They're trying to dodge any and all accountability. And they've been trying to do it with this stupid study as well. Let me pull this up. I've got so much stuff up about this. And I'm going to try to keep it brief. I was trying to write a post about this on Substack. And it ended up being so long, the email wouldn't send. And then when I ran the word count, it was like 4,000 words. I'm like, you guys are not going to read that. So I'm trying very hard to whittle the stuff down. This idea that... It's this study that you guys have seen, and this was trying to argue that the number or the percentage of right versus left In terms of murder and political motivated killing. So it's just really, it's actually really, it's a right thing. It's really big on the right. And they've been like sharing this without verification. They have been promoting it like it's a real actual thing. Statistic and not without any citation of the methodology. And that's a real problem. When you look at the methodology of the. And I'm pulling this up of the survey. One of the things that it was discovered that they did is they incorporated prison violence into this. And they would include like in prison you would have like white supremacist and then a black power adherence and things like that. And they would get into fights. And if one and if the. Black person was killed over the white person, then they would count that as a politically motivated, politically motivated killing. And that was something that was used in this study to pad the numbers so they could try to outweigh the leftist attacks on the right and make it look like it was a right thing on the left. But then they didn't tell anybody that they were literally padding the numbers down. using statistics from the prison population. Can I feel like that's a big oversight? Do you think that was totally on accident? You don't? Wow. I mean, not not even a little bit. They're not being honest about this. And I'm looking I've got gosh, there's a I mean, it was a significant number, guys. They used a significant number of incidents of prison violence to try to pad this statistic out. It's actually kind of stunning. It was like when, as I was just telling you the previous hour, like when they were trying to pad out the school shootings and make it look like they were happening all the time. And when I went through it in my first book, Hands Off My Gun, when I went through it, I mean, of the ones that they added, three quarters were not even that. It's it's so incredibly rare that you even have them in the first place. But they were using like drug deals that happened a block away, like a two or two blocks away at like two or three in the morning. A janitor that accidentally shot himself in the leg because he was or a contractor, sorry, at morning on a Saturday morning. They use that. They use like things of that nature. They would use things that would involve like cousins of people who were in school. And then I mean, that's how that's how much they stretched to try to pad the numbers and make you believe because they know this is what they do. The left does. They just they run with the headline and then everyone amplifies it. In the meantime, everyone else is like, wait a minute, what is your methodology? How did you come to this determination? And before we share it, we look at it. And then when we're looking at these numbers, we're like, wait a minute, you're using incidents that don't involve school children, weren't even on school grounds, or they had nothing to do with the school at all whatsoever. We've got questions about why you decided to include that in these figures. It's fear mongering. And the same thing with this Atlantic piece. Now, why did you have to use a what did they have to use a ton of different inmate on inmate violence, instances of violence, and then use that to pad the numbers of the population outside of the prison to try to because without that, guess what? Left over right. And in fact, I think it's even questionable if it's if it's not like that, even in prison, if I'm being honest, because anything that makes I'll pause there because I I don't even include the white supremacy. That's not on the right. You know why the white supremacy isn't on the right? Because you're making an idol of race. It is unchristian. It is an affront to God. You are making an idol of something that is not Christ, that's not God-centered. You are making an idol of race. You're making an idol that's identity politics. It is literally critical race theory in action. It is literally DEI in action. That is what identity politics is. And when you make an idol of anything but kingdom, you're on the left. So I don't even include any of those subgroups as being on the right. That's the other thing that messes their whole thing up. So through the correct context, it gets even worse for the left. There is no arguing it. And then when you couple that with the two studies that have come out in the past year, One of them came out, actually, both of them came out before Charlie was assassinated. One of them like a month before and one of them like two weeks before. There is an assassination culture. And I think a lot of the feelings were really pushed to the forefront because of the Luigi Mangione case. And you have a lot of individuals, even millennials, that believe that violence, targeted violence towards an individual that they believe is wrong ideologically is actually acceptable. And then this Quinnipiac poll out today, eight in 10 voters say the U.S. is in a political crisis. I'm telling you, uh, there are some issues here. Coming up, one of the things we're going to talk about, speaking of speech, so YouTube, they're doing this pilot program. Cain, let me ask you this. The pilot program, so it's going to be a program where they are going to, on a case-by-case basis, look at accounts that they have suspended. Is that what it is?
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Yeah, that's what I understand it to be. I hope they stick with their terms of service. I mean, they actually went beyond their terms of service to cancel a lot of these conservative channels.
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Well... They apparently, so they shut down newly created channels of Alex Jones and this guy I don't like. But the, I was looking at YouTube's comment on this and they were saying that the reason that it was done so is, let me pull this up. I wanted to accurately quote what they were saying here and not just like abridge it. So they said, we've seen some previously terminated creators try to start new channels. To clarify, our pilot program on terminations is not yet open. It's still against our community guidelines for previously terminated users to use, possess, or create other channels. And we'll terminate new channels from previously terminated users in accordance with these guidelines. We'll have more to share on the limited pilot program soon.
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um so that's why they said they so they could still be reinstated but they just because of their they're still like what getting their program set up so that's why they terminated the new channels i get i mean it sounds like they're intimating that this new pilot program that they're they have yet to roll out and and actually implement is designed to bring people back but in that same statement, they're like, nope, the ones we previously have shut down are going to, we're going to shut down these new ones too. So I think they're actually going harder on shutting down than they are on trying.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. Woo! It's time for Florida Man.
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I don't know how I ended up having like a million different windows open, but I did. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. So first up, Florida Man sleeps in a stranger's car and then wakes up. Is he a bear and eats her snacks? Is this a bear? Hang on. Let me just make sure it's not a bear. 5.30 in the morning, waking up, going to your car. A woman called 911 from her home with the story of, okay, it is a man. I literally was like, it's a joke. 40-year-old Elijah Spencer was standing next to her bed and mumbling. Then he went to her car. She thought he left. Went to her car, was sleeping in her car, and was eating all of her, quote, multiple prepackaged snacks. So she called the police. He was arrested. Burglary of an occupied dwelling. Burglary of an unoccupied conveyance. Car, I guess. Criminal mischief and resisting an officer. And he was taken to the pokey. I'm not kidding. I was like, that's a bear story. When a person acts like a bear, that's it. Let's see. Also... A Florida man was charged with arson. He set fire instead of a synagogue days before Rosh Hashanah, according to authorities. And he has been charged this. I'm telling you, make sure that your security or your churches and synagogues is on as tight as lockdown, y'all. So he's got a lot of charges. This woman was accused of using super glue for illegal dental work, and she was arrested after her victim suffered pain and infections. I don't know that I. I shouldn't say this. I'm not going to go working. I'm not going to go and get my tooth work, my dental work done by anyone, anybody who doesn't realize that oversized gauge 18 fake lashes look bad on them because then I'm going to feel like you're not going to know what looks good on my teeth. And I just don't think I can trust you. I just don't like, come on. I was in Pinellas park and the woman called herself a veneer technician. She literally, she had no dental license, no training and, And she did smile makeover procedures at the tap in beauty bar. And she literally glued stuff to people's teeth. My first question is who would go to her? Stick with us. Third hour on the way.
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Well, this is a governor, Jesse, who is saying that he does not want ICE agents to put masks on. And they're doing that for their safety because there's a threat to them and their family out there, as we saw with the shooting today and the threats that come in daily to them. But this is the same governor who forced two year olds to wear masks during COVID. And he wielded executive power to muzzle people. And so I think he thinks that he just has ultimate power to do this. But what his rhetoric is doing, what his actions, what other supposedly mainstream politicians in the Democratic Party have done is to put a target on the back of our ICE agents because they're demonizing them. They're comparing them to things like the Gestapo. And so that ends up creating an environment where people like this are going to act. So we've set the marker down in Florida. Don't even think about it. We are going to obviously defend our state and local law enforcement. But we are there right there with with our DHS partners. And if you go after and target them, we're going to bring down a ton of bricks on you. And you're not going to want to do that in the state of Florida.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to FFO in Florida. Because here's why. That was Governor Ron DeSantis. The government there won't allow that. The people all have machetes there. I'm pretty sure they all have pet alligators too. Because I see them. I saw, I watched a video of a feller the other day. This is not the old feller that was walking around with a gator in pants going into a quick market. It was a new video of a woman with a gator in a push stroller. And Instagram showed it to me. They all have like gators and clothes. They dress them. They go and pet them. They take people out on tours. Why would you go to Florida and mess with any of these people? These people know how to get around swamps. They all own machetes. They're all friendly with the gators. They know how to get around swamps. And they just, you know, when a hurricane comes, they're like, oh, well. They board up their windows. Why would, why? Why would you mess with anyone there? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this third hour. That is a great point. I mean, your kid had to wear a mask in school, but they won't allow ICE to wear masks. If look, if Democrats are upset with the laws, why didn't they change them? This is a question I will never forget. When I was the token conservative at CNN, I brought up this point how during Barack Obama's first term in 2008. for the first three months until they had special elections, Democrats had a super majority and he could have done whatever he wanted to do. And remember going up into 2008, that election, one of the big talking points that Obama had was immigration. And that was a big thing. And I remember after that, some of the Democrats, they were, they were railing at Republicans about immigration and, you know, you're not doing anything. And I remember bringing up on a panel that I actually think that Matthew Dowd was on. And, uh, The leftists did not like that. But I brought up the fact that, well, Democrats have the supermajority right now until these special elections are underway, in which point they did lose and they just had a basic majority. But at this point, they technically have a supermajority and they can do whatever they want. So why are you not doing it? Why are you blaming Republicans when literally you could override and get over any kind of, you know, even filibuster? Why? They didn't like that because they're not interested in ever doing anything about immigration. That's why these laws have been on the books forever for our lives, Cain. Yeah. Why, if you don't like the law, you're a lawmaker. Change it. It's just like that. And a lot of the laws that these ICE agents are enforcing are laws Democrats also voted for. And some of them wrote them. So I fail to see why they're so upset. Over this. They have to cover their faces so the cartel doesn't get them. At this point, the left is working hand in hand with the cartel. You are working with the cartels if you are trying to sabotage enforcement of border security or you're trying to sabotage any process of deportation. You might as well just go ahead and pick a cartel and affiliate yourself with that cartel because you're their stooge and they're getting you for free. They're getting you for free. You're a cheap date. Good heavens. But they have to because otherwise, God love the people who sign up to be border agents. God love them. Because they are just some of the toughest people. God love them. And it's just, it's sad that these lawmakers are smearing them and impugning their characters the way they are. But not surprising because we've seen it all before. It's just frustrating. It's incredibly frustrating. Newsom has been trying to pick fights with every single person out there, including what? Vance Trump. Who else? Who else is he picking fights with? Musk. Everybody. So wait a minute. You were telling me about this and I wanted to get into this. Because Newsom is the one who's really positioning himself for 28. J.B. Pritzker is trying to, but J.B. Pritzker is very tone deaf and he comes off as incredibly adversarial. And I think that even some on the left are like, he just has an ick factor. Newsom is picking every single fight out there because he needs to remain relevant in the public eye. So he's going to be doing this for years. But he was trying to take credit, and this is audio soundbite eight, for Tesla, if you can believe, for Tesla. For Elon Musk's success, his empire, again, the guy who inherited everything he has, just to remind you before we play the soundbite, it's cut eight, Newsom inherited everything that he has, and he is the product of intermarriage between the wealthiest families of California. Listen.
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I signed the first executive order in the United States to require alternative fuel vehicles by 2035. That was just taken away by Congress, the supine Congress and the President. But we created the market. There is no Elon Musk, there's no Tesla without California's regulatory framework, period, full stop. It wouldn't exist. It was successful in spite of it. It was because of the regulations. because of those signals and the subsidies over 3.2 billion dollars direct subsidies that that tesla received just in my state alone that built this market
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You know, one of the things that he also did is of his own hand, he reversed the pledge on EV buyer support because he mismanaged the budget so badly. Remember, he promised everyone a $7,500 tax credit, EV tax credit. that California isn't going to replace. And Newsom was like, well, we got budget restraints, and we have to look at infrastructure and things like that. So he promised everyone this. They've done, California, they've done more to actually hamstring EV manufacturing and production more than almost any other state. And then they said, yeah, we're not going to replace the tax credit. So they promised everyone, oh, if you buy these cars, we're going to make sure you have this tax credit, knowing full well that the budget was not going to be able to cover that. They knew at the time that he was promising this, that their budget, I mean, for crying out loud, guys, when they had a drought, they couldn't even afford to begin exploration for desalination plants. They couldn't even, you know, they live by an ocean, take the water, take the salt out of it, get it out there. They couldn't even afford budgetary-wise the exploration land licensing to even do that because they have spent, guess what, how much they've spent budgetarily. billions of dollars trying to quote unquote fix their homeless problem. And you know where that money went? There was a free beacon piece, I think like a year or 15 months ago that came out about that. The majority of the money actually went to all of these left wing groups that were supposed to facilitate it and they didn't facilitate it. I'm sure that's a surprise knowing how much BLM fleeced everyone to go buy mansions for their founders, right? So the same way with this, they funnel all of this money out through their street team on the left and then they act like, oh, well, we didn't get funded enough. We need more money. This happens every single time. The reason that they don't have the ability to do that with the tax credits is California is broke as a joke under Gavin Newsom's horrific mismanagement to say nothing of the rail system that they were promising everyone for 13 years now that they were going to do. And they spent billions upon billions. It ballooned three times over budget. The French company that was hired to actually do it and they gave a timeline. They said we can get it done in like what was it like three years? I can't even remember. They gave a timeline of how quickly it was going to be done. And they were so dismayed by all of the corruption and the bloat that this was turning into that they just shut the books and left the project. And then they went to, I can't remember what country in Africa, and they did it within two years. They built that pretty much the exact same rail system in a country in Africa within like two years. And in the meantime, they still can't even, they only got, how much did they get? Was it 800 meters or 1600? Was it a half mile or a mile of a bridge of one? And that's it. And it's in the middle of nowhere. And that's all they have. That's all they got done. It is the it's the craziest thing. So he can't he can't do anything. This is all on his watch. And so he's trying to say, well, Elon Musk wouldn't have been able to do. Elon Musk was able to do and be successful in spite of that. In fact, you can say that of all of these businesses, in spite of all of those things, he was still able to be successful. So I don't know what this is, but he's trying to pick fights. And he's trying to stay relevant and it's very he's he's he's got to do this stuff if he's going to stay relevant. This a couple of other things to get into with us because we've been talking about ice and of course the rhetoric political rhetoric as well getting really tired of the rhetoric. But this this is a Minnesota senator. Zainab, Zainab, Zainab, Senator Mohammed. I'm shocked that he's from Minnesota. Shocked. Listen to this. This is what they're doing in Minnesota. Minnesota is going to be worse than California here soon. Listen. Listen.
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So this community is my community and I relate to them. Obviously, I'm an immigrant that is a citizen that is documented. But there are so many folks like myself who come here to make their lives a little bit better and easier. And they don't have simple things like a way to get to work or school. And we can do that. We have the power to do that. And I ran for office because I think that our job is to make people's lives easier.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's not your job. That's literally a... So you don't even understand. I don't think that if you are a foreigner, I don't believe that... I'm sorry. I don't believe that you should be running for elected office if you don't understand how the country works. The government's job isn't to make your life easier. The government's job is to stay the hell out of the way and not get involved in everyday aspect of your life. That is the complete opposite of what the government is supposed to be doing. This woman has not demonstrated an understanding of how this republic works or a simple understanding of what she's supposed to be doing in her office, which in any perfect world would would completely invalidate her claimed elected office. This is what I'm talking about. It's not a nanny state. Well, it's supposed to make people's lives easier. No, it's not. When has government ever made anyone's lives easier? Fair question. When? When has the government ever made your life easier? Tax season? No. Going and registering your vehicle? No. No? Getting a new driver's license?
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No, definitely not that. What about health care? Oh, no. No.
SPEAKER 12 :
What about for the older folks, the Medicare?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, that, yeah, no. It's actually gotten a lot worse.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's gotten a lot worse. And, you know, Medicare open enrollment and all that. I learned a lot about that from one of our partners' chapter. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it hasn't made anything. Starting a business, Cain, has it made it easier to start a business?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, no, they've actually made that cost prohibitive as well.
SPEAKER 12 :
Surely higher education they've made easier. Oh, no. No? Yeah. No? Not that either? Um... So really, nothing then.
SPEAKER 10 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So... We've got 96% of people who admit to driving aggressively in a recent AAA survey. None of these are me. I drive like an angel, as you would know. I just put blessings on the roadway, man. Just blessings on the roadway. All four blessings. Put all those four blessings on the roadway. 96% of people admit to driving aggressively in a AAA survey. They said that they've engaged in aggressive driving in a survey of 53 people from ages 19 to 64 from 27 states. I feel like that's a really small sample. Cutting off other vehicles and honking out of anger while tailgating and others. I don't tailgate because I'm always like, what if somebody tries to carjack me and I need to be able to get away? So I don't tailgate for that reason. I don't cut people off, but I will honk if someone's not paying attention. Like if you're not going at a light or you're not, you know, you're sitting at a roundabout twiddling your thumbs and you don't have to... I will do that. But the other stuff, no. But they said that the most prevalent aggressive driving behavior, running a red light. 82% said that they did it at least once in the last year. Is that aggressive driving though? Have you done it? Yeah, see, I'm not going to admit that because I, you know, I drive like I'm a blessing on the roadway. Like I said, you know, just providing blessings and, you know, sunshine and cheer. I really a confused van driver kept students from getting home for hours. He had no idea where to go. West Shore School District. He finally did get them home. But like hours after they were supposed to be, their parents were understandably upset. Stick with us. More in store.
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Welcome back. We're at the bottom of this third hour. Dana Lash here. And you can find us doing the radio show. Watch us do it on Channel 347 DirecTV. The chat's at rumble. Where is this? I was looking for this piece. And where is it? Okay, here it is. I didn't watch the South Park thing yesterday. Apparently they aired, as the New York Post describes it, a merciless spoof of FCC Chairman Brendan Carr... over Jimmy Kimmel, blah, blah, blah. I really don't care. But I mean, if it's funny, it's funny. Funny is funny. We on the right don't get offended over everything the way the left does. Like Charlie Kirk, when he got parodied by South Park, he did a video where he was like, this is the greatest thing ever. And he was so excited about it. And then he used the South Park version of himself as his avatar on all these platforms. So they did... I'll just tell you. They did a spoof on Brendan Carr. And apparently... It shows car falling down greased stairs. He eats a laced stew that makes him soil his pants. He lands into the hospital with toxoplasmosis. What is that, Kane? I don't know. You know all these things. seen it before but i don't i don't anyway and the doctor warns if the toxoplasmosis parasite gets to his brain i may i am afraid he may lose his freedom of speech and then vice president jd vance in the show is overjoyed that car is in critical condition since he wants any potential roadblocks roadblocks to his presidency out of the way and he threatens car on his hospital bed we can do this the easy way or the hard way and the that's what they i mean I still think the way they do Vance is actually funny. That is actually funny. Like, I think it's because they use all the memes of his head for his face. And it's hysterical. But the car thing, I'm going to need a little bit more than someone deuce in their drawers, man, to laugh at. Right. You know, I'm going to need a little bit. By the way, can I just say, how much does the South Park version of Brendan Carr look like the actual version of Brendan Carr? Right. Like when they did Barbra Streisand, it didn't look anything like her. When they did Robert Smith, it didn't look anything like him. This looks just like Brendan Carr. If he does not make this like his masthead on X, I'm going to be really disappointed.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think we know him enough to know that he's going to love that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, he will actually like it. But that's just not funny. I want it to be funny. Make it funny. There are things that you can do without going, oh, he blanked his pants.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know what I loved about what they did over these past couple few years is they've taken the media narrative of what's going on and used that as comedy because they knew it was absurd. But now what they're doing is sort of supporting the current media narrative, which is absurd.
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Yeah. And they know how this stuff works. They know how regulation of airwaves works. And I told you guys yesterday, you know, when Sinclair filed the complaint with the FCC and they said that they were not going to have his show, that is – for people who aren't in broadcasting, that is the – Standard operating procedure and that, OK, somebody this this cluster or these stations or this company, they file this notice. The FCC has to look at it. So that's the only reason why the FCC was even involved in the first place is because that actually is they're required by statute that that's how they follow up. Anyway, long story short, it's not a First Amendment issue. And I think it belittles the First Amendment issue to say it's a First Amendment issue. And we talked about this. I'm not going to relitigate it. These are the companies that, you know, they have to do what they think is right by their listeners. And that's their right to do so also. They also, those stations also have rights. My whole issue is I've watched South Park since the beginning. And I feel like sometimes, like all shows, they go through peaks and valleys, right? And some of the valleys, you know, they've gone through this before where they're just not as funny. And then they come back new season and it's funny again. I don't want comedy to suffer any more than it has. Comedy has already suffered so much because of the woke stuff. And you can't laugh at things that are funny. I don't want unbridled progressive rage to take over and kill comedy because just trying to create things as a means of shock is to exercise your rage that's not funny that's just boring any basic animal can do that any basic animal can be shocking you know i've seen apes throw feces shocking i've seen dogs eat vomit shocking anything can be shocking It doesn't take a lot of wit. It doesn't take a lot of creativity. I just expected a little bit more, right? Be funnier. I don't care who you make fun of. Just please, for the love of all things holy, be funny. Showing somebody, oh, look, can you believe it? He fell on the stairs. Oh, my gosh, he's got a pair. Oh, he grabbed his pants. That's not funny. That's just basic. And I know they can do better than this. I don't know. Maybe they had to switch some stuff out because of the Kirk stuff and this was all they could cobble together that week. I don't know. But it just seemed flat. Although the J.D. Vance thing is always funny. And I, you know, I don't dislike Vance. I don't dislike, you know, I like him. It's funny. But this isn't funny. It wasn't funny. I don't know. The Cartman thing, even being Kirk, was funny. This isn't funny, though. It just seems like they were mad and they thought we're going to try to troll him at some point. Trolling someone is just it just gets annoying for the viewer. If all you're doing is the same outrage. And this is some advice for some people on the right. If all you're doing is just every day you're outraged. Oh, my gosh. And you just you are so outraged. You forget how to be funny. That's when it's just blows for the viewer. It's just bad. And I don't want them to be like this. Because I feel like in some respects, they sort of prevented the left from entirely losing their sense of humor. Because most of the left has. And it's just, does that make sense? It just gets boring. Doesn't it get boring when all you're doing every day is trolling? It's the same stuff every stupid day. Oh, let's see what predictable garbage they came out with today. It's just not funny anymore. Just be funny. Damn. Quit being so damn sensitive. goodness it's not the it's not the punk rock south park that i you know kind of that i remember and of all the people to get you know jimmy kimmel wasn't i i think disney was trying to offload him and uh then they realized gosh maybe we should just it's their pain protection jimmy kimmel is their version of pain the woke mafia protection don't do anything to us that's what this says you know it is it's just like that so i don't know i saw this um Yeah, them trying to buy CNN could also be part of South Park's weakness. I saw this. This is Aiden Ross. He's a streamer. And he's one of those... I don't want to say influencers. Isn't streamer basically just like an influencer? It's an influencer in video form. Anyway, I thought this was a very... insightful comment that he made and he was hosting a stream and he was talking about religion and you know the tenor of everything in the u.s and cut 21 and he's pretty influential this is what he said they honestly feel
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that if we had a society ran off Christianity alone, I think it'd be a beautiful society. I think the world would be great, right? I think that, that's why I think some people in my chat that are so expressive about God or whatever you guys believe in, Hats off to you guys because if you guys are people of God and you guys are family, good people, good family people, I highly respect you because I really feel like that's the best, most pure version of someone when you're all about family and you're all about God and you're all about, you know, that. So all you guys that are like that, you know, seriously, that's... Rare Jewish W. OK, I'm Jewish, guys, but I'm not Jewish Jewish.
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And you guys are the ones that he's gone viral because he's got a huge audience. He's like one of the top streamers in the world. And he is saying that he likes the Christian led society. That is. And I think he's being incredibly honest about this. He's a Gen Z or totally. And I think he's just being very honest about it. And I thought that was very interesting that he said that. But what kind of threats did he get after that? I'm a little concerned. But I think that's cool that he... And apparently all the people in his comments were... you know, agreeing with him or they were supportive of it or like, yeah, we see the benefit of it. That was very interesting, though. That's a Gen Z stream guide, a live streamer who, again, has a huge audience because all I hear about is that asthma gold sentient turd. That's all I hear about. And he not Asmongold. Who am I thinking of? Asmongold is one of the nice guys. Oh, the Piker, Hassan Piker. That's the one I'm thinking of. The guy who's like literally issued death threats to people and is like majorly anti-Christian and I mean, legitimately anti-Semitic. I mean, it's not just he doesn't disagree with a country whose government structure he has no idea of. He just really just doesn't like Jewish people. Yeah. To see someone like the Asmongolds or like Aiden Ross push back against the Hassan Pikers of that Gen Z streaming world, the ideological battle that you're seeing play out on cable news isn't just playing out on cable news. There's a ton of different fronts to this battle. This is one of the fronts that you need to be paying attention to. Because these dudes have enormous audiences. Like, combined, what do you think their audiences account for? Like, how many millions? Yeah, millions. Yeah. millions and millions i don't really watch them i know who they are i don't watch commentary i do it all day i i prefer to read so if i'm going to read commentary i prefer to read an editorial i just can't stand unless it's just completely supreme i just can't stand um listening to it it's like somebody who makes movies all day and then they they don't want to go and evaluate all these other movies after um But that is a whole other front in this battle. And then you have the streaming world. And then you have the gaming world where video game makers are battling it out, trying to fight back against CCP, infiltration, wokery, which is all the same thing. There are a lot of things at play here. And a lot of generations are involved in it. They're all playing different parts that are respective to their age and where they are in the cultural zeitgeist. And it's it is fascinating to kind of take a couple of steps back to watch. You need to even though you don't maybe you don't watch streamers, you should be aware of some of these dudes because they guarantee you your kids and grandkids know who they are. And those people are going to be like voting. They're voting now. They're going to be making decisions about your end of life. You kind of want to know who influences them. These are some of the guys who influence them. It's very important to know these things.
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The Gaza Strip is an integral part of the state of Palestine and that we are ready to bear full responsibility for governance and security there. Hamas will not have a role to play in governance. Hamas and other factions will have to hand over their weapons to the Palestinian National Authority
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, here's the problem with that. The problem with the Palestinian Authority, and that's the president of it, Mahmoud Abbas, They they're taking it over anyway. So the West Bank has always been dominated by FATA, which is one of the factions. FATA recognizes both states existing. I don't believe in a quote unquote Palestinian state. Hamas runs Gaza. But the problem is that is that the PA, the Palestinian Authority, they had to suspend. We talked about this the other day, suspend elections in 2021. That's new audio, by the way. They had to suspend elections in 2021 because Hamas was taking over everything. And they were going to win. They were they were going to take over and kick Fata out of. I mean, they basically de facto are the big influence in West Bank anyway. So I don't know how they can say, no, Hamas is not going to be a part of it when they can't even have elections because Hamas has taken so much power and they would overwhelmingly just run it. So do you honestly think that, you know, that's. It's just insane. It's insane. So anyway, welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. And we're going to get we're going to. I don't know. Anyway. You can follow us on social media, on my personal. We also have Dana Lash Radio on X and then Facebook and YouTube. Make sure you find us there. And then the newsletter over at Substack because a lot of good stuff has come out about that as well, especially with all of the remarks about the autism stuff earlier this week. A couple of other things I wanted to play for you before we wrap up today. I wanted to play this. This is Audio Sunbite 10. This is Flashback from 2022. Jimmy Kimmel explains what an apology is supposed to sound like. Listen to this.
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An 82 year old man has been attacked in his bed, in his home by a person who obviously has some problems and that our first reaction isn't, oh my goodness, even if they're lying, even if they're pretending to have concern, how can that, how can the reaction possibly be? How can we move so quickly? to smearing these people to try to create some and you know by the way now that the police report is out i haven't exactly seen elon musk or donald trumper donnie junior correcting them since saying oh my goodness now that we read the facts of the story uh... certainly we we feel terrible that we spread these vicious lies around and we to retract them and apologize to the pelosi family though you'll never see that uh... when an apology isn't even offered that's listen there's these people are supposed to be christians i i am a catholic i grew up in the church what i was taught was that if you do something wrong you ask for forgiveness and you are forgiven for these things the idea that um that it would be anything other than that that these people who are allegedly following the teachings of jesus uh It would behave in this way. It just it doesn't matter. It doesn't make any sense at all. And I don't I just can't understand how that works for so many people, so many Americans.
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So I think that's, you know, also biblical by that measure. You also will be judged. Just saying. All right. Today's stupidity came.
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All right. Let's go to Gavin Newsom. Cut eight. This is him taking credit for the success and all the hard work from Elon Musk.
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I signed the first executive order in the United States to require alternative fuel vehicles by 2035. That was just taken away by Congress. Yeah, because he tried to force Congress and we get it. The president. But we created the market. No, you didn't. There is no Elon Musk. There's no Tesla without California's regulatory.
SPEAKER 10 :
He literally just admitted that it got cut down by Congress, and now he's trying to take credit.
SPEAKER 12 :
It succeeded in spite of you, my dude. That's what he doesn't get.
SPEAKER 09 :
Unreal.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, there it goes. Folks, that does it for us today. I hope you have a great rest of your day. I may be off tomorrow, depending on how well I feel later on today. I still have some TV to do with Dave Rubin and Fox Business later on. Substack Facebook. God bless. I'll talk with you later.
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That's right. You heard it here. James Comey. indictment imminent i have to like make sure i say that right well because i feel like it's a lot of i words back to back so i did the tease a bunch of times i'll be honest that was not a one take uh that was a that was a couple takes there but this is breaking news here james comey of course former fbi director the sources are confirming sources are saying this is happening it is happening very soon and my dad jay secula who i don't know had some had a little bit to do with a is going to be on the broadcast coming up here in the next segment. So stay tuned for that. And then later in the show, we're going to hear from you. So give us a call. 1-800-684-3110. But Will, let's brief him on what's going on.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right. We knew that there had been a grand jury impaneled looking into some of these allegations against James Comey. But now it appears that the DOJ is prepared to ask for an indictment from this grand jury as soon as today. It appears they're looking at allegations he lied to Congress back in 2020. There'd be a five year statute of limitations on that, which would run out on Tuesday. So if they are going to ask for an indictment, it has to be in the next couple of days.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, I mean, it has to happen then. It's not something that's just theoretical up for discussion. And right now, we're obviously also monitoring President Trump. If you're watching this show live, that is from 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern Time. That's right. So if you're watching live, it's 12.03, I think, or 12.02 Eastern Time. President Trump's currently meeting with Erdogan in Turkey. That's right. So that's something that we'll cover. If there's anything we feel like we need to pop in, it's a lot of trade discussion, a lot of discussion on their relationship with Russia. We'll keep you updated if there's anything like that to continue on. But of course, Comey having the situation where he has essentially even admitted to lying in many ways, saying that he had... Leaked things to the press or leaked things to his friend to then leak to the press and then to go and say, hey, I didn't delete anything. You know, very semantics game played by James Comey. Of course, he obviously has had so many issues come up, including even as recently as Shellgate, who just a few months ago.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right. Yeah, where he found those shells in the sand that said 86-47. We do know that he has been an antagonist to President Trump for years. He used his power as the FBI director to get involved within an election, whether it be the way he handled the Hillary Clinton email scandal. or what he did in the wake of that after President Trump was President-elect Donald Trump in the way that he operated his FBI. It was not something that should happen in the United States of America. Now, what we will see is if the grand jury, when they are asked by the DOJ to indict him, if they will indeed indict him, and then where it goes from there. And those are things that we're going to talk with your dad about in the next segment, what this would look like, what a trial would look like. It's in the Eastern District of Virginia, how that would play in, and a lot ahead.
SPEAKER 02 :
The implications are, I mean, Comey would become the first former, I'm reading it exactly so you get it right. James Comey would become the first former senior government official to face prosecution in connection with one of these grievances. He would be one of the first times in these kind of situations where an indictment actually happens, goes through, and we get this far. So what does that look like? You're going to find out and you're going to hear a lot more from my dad coming up, Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ. We'll give you a little bit of brief background on our involvement, all of this over the years. Maybe some of you are brand new and don't know how long we've been working on these kind of situations with President Trump, with the previous Trump administration. So stay tuned for that. It's going to be a lot of fun, a lot of interesting content coming here. I say fun in the sense of, look, we've had a lot of... dark days over the last couple weeks so to have a break here we can actually just discuss what's going on a little bit in the news and maybe it's not a life or death situation is a bit of a relief it's weird to say that indictments can be reliefs but here we are phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 I actually just saw someone in the comments say Logan you should send in the clowns today you know what haven't done that in a long time haven't felt appropriate do you feel so led Send in the clowns. You know what to do. That's right. Put in the clown emojis. We'll be back in just a moment, but phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. My dad, Jay Sekulow, is joining us as well. I didn't even get to introduce you earlier. Well, Will Haynes is joining us. I'm right here. Of course, as always, but I just want to make sure. Actually, not as always. You were not here yesterday.
SPEAKER 01 :
I wasn't here.
SPEAKER 02 :
But as most of the time, we'll say that. But my dad, Jay Sekulow, is joining us. Dad, obviously, this comes on the news this morning that was just breaking that James Comey is set to be indicted. That could happen at any time. Obviously, these are sources, but these are pretty reliable sources saying it's happening. Let's get your overall thoughts and also give people a background of why this is important to even the work that we're doing here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, of course we were involved in this, um, as lawyers for president Trump back when all of this was going on, this stems from, and this is what's important for people to understand because a lot of people may not remember the details stems from testimony given, uh, before the United States Congress where, uh, and Ted Cruz has pointed this out very well that James Comey, when asked about this leaking of information, uh, did not, give a forthright answer. At least that's going to be the allegation. In other words, he did not tell the truth. He lied. Uh, it involved a situation where an individual that was a law professor received notes, from James Comey after a conversation with the president of the United States. That law professor then leaked it to the press. James Comey asked about the leak, said, I didn't leak anything to the press. And even more specific, Andrew McCabe, who I am no fan of, went before Congress and gave totally contradictory testimony. And I don't know if you all remember this. They were arguing with each other via then Twitter, now X, about who was telling the truth. I mean, there were these texts going back and forth And this is a culmination of the unprofessional conduct, the illegal conduct, in my view, that James Comey engaged in as he was trying to basically, in a sense, blackmail the president. And that's a strong word to use, but I want to put it in a real context here. Remember, it was James Comey and Clapper and these others that went to the then president-elect in early 2017 before he was sworn in and went through that whole situation with the Steele dossier and the allegations. So James Comey also said three times in writing, well, to the president, actually, that he was not under investigation when, in fact, they already had opened up Crossfire Hurricane and he was under investigation. So there's just these, you know, this is the guy that also in the Hillary Clinton campaign interfered with an election by getting out and saying she was first exonerated, then not exonerated, and reopened again. And you just can't do that as the FBI director. He jumped over the attorney general, who is his boss, when he made these statements. So this is, in fact, a long, overdue process. Now, overdue being... By Tuesday, the statute of limitations of allowing the Congress allegation, if in fact that becomes the allegation or one of them, was to expire on Tuesday. So the grand jury is impaneled on Thursday to meet. That's what's happening now. And a lot of people expect a returning indictment sometime later today or maybe it will be unsealed early next week.
SPEAKER 01 :
As far as the process of this goes, we know that a lot of people in the press are reporting it is about, as you mentioned, the lying before Congress, that it could be things in addition to that. Those are the details we don't know at this moment. But once they take this and ask for an indictment before a grand jury, This is in the Eastern District of Virginia. What happens after that as far as process goes so people can be looking forward to what could come out of this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Once a grand jury, if in fact what's called return, issue an indictment, that is then taken to the judge and the indictment is issued. James Comey would be arrested and processed. He probably would turn himself in voluntarily, I suspect. And then the court proceedings start. So that's how it moves. It'll be handled by the United States Department of Justice. The Eastern District of Virginia appears where this indictment is coming out of. And they have an acting U.S. attorney who would be in charge of the case through the criminal division of their office. But it also may have main DOJ people involved as well. I'm sure it will in the nature of the kind of case that it is.
SPEAKER 02 :
In this kind of case, what's the timeline look like here? Because we only have a couple of years left of a Trump presidency. And does that change? Could this indictment, this moment kind of be reversed if we see the pendulum shift in just a couple of years?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I mean, if the white house, um, were to turn in 2028 to a democratic president, he can order the department of justice to not move forward with that indictment. Now, if the case has been tried and a jury, uh, issues a verdict, whether it's guilt or innocence, I'm not guilty or guilty. Um, then you have a situation where once it's tried it's it's done uh realistically president a new president could you know if there was a sentence involved a new president could waive the sentence or sentence or even issue a pardon but if it's not tried by then yes politically things can happen and i see justice is part of the executive branch and the president is in charge of well i see a lot of people talking about that saying well you know it took this long to just get to this point uh
SPEAKER 02 :
Having a precedent though in place right now, could this be not fast-tracked, but something that is reasonable to get done within the next 24 months?
SPEAKER 07 :
Three years is reasonable and that's what's left. So yes, I think the case could be tried within that period of time. There'll be motions, but this is a high profile case. I think it'll move in an expeditious manner, but I do think that we have to remember that there will be, you know, James Comey will be entitled to counsel and his lawyer will file motions to dismiss and motions to reduce the indictment. And there'll be a whole series of legal work that goes in before trial, but you could see, I think it's possible that you could see a trial in, um, you know, in the next 18 months. Now, let me say something else here, because I see, you know, some people criticize this is so political. I can't believe that, you know, they're doing this. This is what the left's saying. They didn't say that when they went after President Trump. both while he was in office and then indicted him afterwards. So, you know, it's similar to what you all said yesterday, the double standard here, when you were talking about the left wasn't saying much as conservatives were being, you know, censored by Google. And, you know, and of course, you know, Google came out and said we were pressured by the Biden administration. So it's the same kind of thing here. I mean, They forget where and what they have done to this sitting president while he was president and then after he was out of office. So, you know, they kind of open this up in a sense.
SPEAKER 01 :
And when you look at the entire justice system, once the indictment is returned, if it is returned, then it goes into a normal process. And this is the Eastern District of Virginia. This is obviously you bring charges against the person where the alleged crime would have happened. And we are in a place where there's a lot of government employees. there's a lot of bureaucrats that live in this district. And because of the nature of that, obviously, we believe in the justice system. But do you think the jury pool could be more difficult for the government because of the nature of what many of the people in that community do? They are government employees and may have already opinions on something like this. Does that become a hurdle for the DOJ in this?
SPEAKER 07 :
I would say it's the risk of any time you go to trial. You know, the Eastern District is called the rocket docket because it's known as one of the fastest and, frankly, one of the most efficient district courts in the country. And these cases tend to move fast. And you would think it'll be experienced prosecutors that will be bringing this action. But the jury's the jury. And you're not going to know that until it goes to trial. Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right. Well, hey, phone lines are open for you. I want to hear from you your thoughts on the James Comey potential indictment that could be coming at any time. Give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. Of course, it's a great time. to support the work of the ACLJ. And dad, when these kinds of things happen, you also know that our work, our FOIA work, our deep state work really comes into a really fruition here. You see the light at the end of the tunnel on some of these processes to know a lot of people see what we've been doing for that for many, many years now. And here it is playing out in real time.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is real time. And we were involved in it from the very beginning. There's not many lawyers that know more about this than our team here at the ACLJ and private lawyers who worked on this. But let me also say, Logan, it is a great time to support the work of the ACLJ on so many different fronts. And I encourage people to go to ACLJ.org. And if you can donate monthly, become an ACLJ champion. But we appreciate the support. A lot of work going on, a lot of new and exciting things going on. This will be a big one. We'll keep an eye on this very closely and keep everybody informed as it moves forward.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, but we'll continue this discussion going forward. Again, thanks, Dad, for joining us today. Phone lines are open for you, as I said, at 1-800-684-3110. But the fight for justice continues on. We've been engaged in it for 35 years. You know we've been celebrating 35 years of the ACLJ for the last half of the year or so. A big part of that is holding the deep state accountable. And with this potential Comey indictment coming, which could come in any moment, it's a reminder, again, that our work and our FOIA work, our Freedom of Information Act work, has taken on vital importance over the years as we fight back against years of lawfare, lawfare whether it's President Trump or the Trump administration or us or really any organizations like ours. But it's only getting more intense. I mean, we've seen what's going on in the world and the issues become more and more important. So in a couple days, let's give you a couple facts here. In days, we have two more vital deadlines, one involving the FBI's deep state. One vital FOIA we continue to work involves Comey placing spies in the White House. In total, we have 20 active Freedom of Information Act cases, several involving the FBI under Director Comey and Wray. Though sometimes the deep state seems like they remain, as we still work that out. We have to be part of the team rooting it out. You can be part of that team too. So I encourage you, go to ACLJ.org. All I'm asking you to do right now is to sign a petition. That's at ACLJ.org slash sign. ACLJ.org slash sign. You'll see it right there on the homepage. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. We're going to take your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110 as we continue our discussion about James Comey and some other heavy hitters. Maybe you heard of Letitia James. As things have been moving forward in those cases as well, we're going to talk about that. Let's first take a call real quick, though. It's hopefully a call. We'll then spur you to call, which would be nice.
SPEAKER 01 :
Some people are going to be real happy you're taking calls early.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's all I can say. You know, we're starting to get towards the end of the week, Will. And I just, I have the, you need more calls early on more calls to get us through an hour. I hear you do it in North Carolina. Come on and raise up your online too. Go ahead. How you doing? I'm good. Hello. How are you doing?
SPEAKER 08 :
Um, as I shared to the young man, um, that answered the call, I'm glad to see that they're finally some indictments starting to possibly come down. against all of this conspiracy that has gone on for the last 10 years, uh, against president Donald Trump. I'm not one of these people that take the news or the media at their word. I do my own research. I followed to make sure that what I'm hearing is fact-based and that has been proven. And there's a lot of things that have been brought to light, uh, by, uh, cash Patel. uh, by the CIA, uh, uh, by Tulsa Gabbard that is being brought to light and they are exposing these things that are legally documents showing what they've done. Well, a lot of people like a lot of people like myself is wanting to know when these people are going to stop being held, start being held accountable, uh, Because there were a lot of people that were jailed, put in jail, only tried for things that have been proven that they didn't do, but they had to go to jail. So now it's time for these people that have been doing this stuff to start being prosecuted and being held accountable for what they've done and go to jail.
SPEAKER 01 :
Straight to jail. Joe, I think that is what a lot of people, especially watching this broadcast, have been wanting for a long time is that we've seen what's played out. We've seen the bad actors inside the government exploiting their positions to politicize their work, whether it be the FBI director, the former director of the CIA, the former director of national intelligence, all of those people, we knew that they were nefarious in their actions. We read the text messages between the FBI agents that were saying, don't worry, this will never happen. There will never be a Donald Trump president. And if there is, we've got the insurance policy. We read it all. We've seen it all. And now we are seeing even more of that, how far deep it went. And you're right, that is where the frustration happens to many Americans, is that when will someone be held accountable for this stuff?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, you almost don't think it can ever happen in a weird way. It just feels like we've gotten so close so many times to this sort of accountability culture, if you will, in terms of this, and it never seems to happen. It gets close. Yes, Hillary Clinton did all these horrible things, but... Not horrible enough. And look, I'm not about going after your political opponents. I mean, when it comes to trumping up charges, doing things that are ridiculous. And the problem is we have that in the back of our head because usually it's them coming after us. It's usually coming after conservatives. So now that it's happened, you have a different FBI, you have a different CIA, you have to start treating them differently. And like I said, it's easy to see those three letters and not think Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, or whoever it may be, Tulsi Gabbard, Pam Bondi, to see those three-letter organizations and not immediately go to corruption. And that's something that we've had to relearn last year.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and I also think to Joe's point as well, remember, once there's an indictment, we're still innocent until proven guilty in this country. The Department of Justice has to prove their case. They have to prove their case before a jury. So it doesn't necessarily even mean he will be found guilty. If they can't prove their case, if the jury decides to exonerate him, then that is something that could play out. And remember, this is what they're being talking about, is that this is a perjury charge against Congress. It's not... a corruption charge or a RICO charge or something that or a conspiracy charge that we're hearing about so even that kind of is like okay well they're going with what they can get or what they think they can get an indictment on because of statute of limitations but once again that's not even all of of the corruption that we've seen that wouldn't be accountability for all of that so those are things to keep in mind as we as we go forward and keep uh
SPEAKER 02 :
watching this play out yeah well there are other people that are having some issues right now we do know that the leticia james i guess the mortgage fraud probe that's right yeah it is continuing on pushing ahead with this investigation of the new york attorney general again leticia james over those allegations and again this was after uh you had all those back and forths with leticia james president trump and of course president trump uh said yeah i think i want to push forward they'd like to move forward with this yeah
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, this is one where there was basically the federal housing finance agency director. So a federal agency made a criminal referral to the Department of Justice saying, hey. We were just looking over some stuff and it appears that Letitia James committed mortgage fraud. She lied on these documents. There's even documents we found from back in the 80s that showed this as a pattern, even though those would be outside the statute of limitations. So that's been being investigated. Also out of the Eastern District of Virginia. And it appears that the DOJ is continuing to push ahead with this, meaning that They are still investigating and could bring this to a grand jury for charges against her, as well as John Bolton reporting yesterday that when they did the raid of John Bolton's house and office, they did find documents labeled classified, confidential, and secret. That is something that he went after President Trump so much, how reckless that he would have as former president, secret documents at Mar-a-Lago, but once again. It's like they have no memory of these things.
SPEAKER 02 :
I really do feel that way, that you get in this sort of blur of, maybe it's kind of like us doing a show here. When you do a show five days a week, I can't recall what happened Tuesday at 12.23. Right. Because I don't know what I said then because we're wheeling and dealing. We're doing an hour of essentially improv talk here every day. I feel like something happens to people where they're like, how dare you have confidential documents? And they're like, I would never do that. I would never, ever do that. And then you find out they did. Right. I don't know if it's always nefarious or if it's just... It's a lot of hubris. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like, I would never do such a thing. And then you find out, of course you did. And then even them are like, oh, dang it, I did. Or some of my staff did. This is what happens here. But those are moving forward.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right. So once again. A lot of things, heavy hitters. John Bolton, Latisha James. We'll see what happens. James Comey. But if they move forward, this is a lot of these people will be getting charged with something that they were critical of the president saying he was doing. This goes back to that thing that I know Rick Grinnell says a lot on this broadcast that when the left accuses you of something, they're probably doing it themselves. That's what this entire pattern has seemed to show. They said that President Trump was colluding with Russia to interfere in the election. In reality, it was the deep state colluding with themselves to interfere in the election and to hamstring a presidency. With Letitia James, falsified business documents and inflated values to get better loan terms. She allegedly committed mortgage fraud to get better loan terms. And then once again, Ambassador Bolton, how dare he have classified documents at Mar-a-Lago that's reckless. Oops. I may have the same thing at my house. It's just it's almost comical. Send in the clowns because they just keep doing the things that they are so pious about.
SPEAKER 02 :
We've got a second half hour coming up. I want you to join us by giving us a call at 1-800-684-3110. If you don't get us on your local station or wherever you listen to us, find us broadcasting live every day, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time at aclj.org, YouTube, however you get your podcasts. We're there. You can listen to it live, of course, later on. Most of you listen later on. And I've got to give it up to Rick Grinnell. Going mainstream on us today. This morning on CBS This Morning. Out there with Gail and everybody. Pretty fun to watch. Yeah, announcing the Kennedy Center Honors will be on CBS. Be right back.
SPEAKER 05 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
SPEAKER 02 :
And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Second half hour, Sekulow. It's here. Will Haynes is joining me in studio. You didn't catch my dad was on earlier. If you want to hear more about the Comey situation, we'll talk about it still now. But if you want to have kind of a deep dive, I encourage you to go back when the show is over. Go listen to his segment because it was very informative, very interesting. And of course, we are also talking about a lot of the issues of the day. There are not only a lot of prosecutions happening, not only are there a lot of things happening. I did mention in the previous segment, I think this look. could be sort of your mainstreaming of what's going on and sort of the calming down in the media landscape. And we'll talk to Rick Grinnell probably tomorrow or earlier next week because he was on this morning, CBS, this morning with all the panel, all the hosts to announce that the Kennedy Center honors, which of course has been sadly mistreated, I feel like, over the last year as Rick has started to really put together what I think is going to be an incredible show with some great guests, Sylvester Stallone, Kiss, Gloria Gaynor, just a really... Who's who? It's going to be a great moment for the arts. George Strait. But CBS announces, hey.
SPEAKER 01 :
the liberal kind of press wants to go after it but hey you know we'd like to air that because we think why it's going to bring ratings that's why exactly because it's going to actually be people that the mass majority of americans want to see have heard of once again it's not going to be this list of people you've never heard of that that i'm sure are great artists and great at their craft but the the times that the art world gets so out of touch with what americans value you start to end up with a Kennedy Center that was failing, that was not able to cover their budget shortfalls, that was falling apart. And so when you start putting together... Look, they're still working on it. Programming that people would like to see and honoring people that Americans actually enjoy. you start to see things a little differently. And then you also see the networks be like, hey, can we air that? Can we have that?
SPEAKER 02 :
CBS doing that. Of course, CBS in Paramount and all that whole situation has been very interesting to watch over the last year. But I'm excited for this. I'm excited to see Rick on the couch there. You know, when usually you turn on, I see Rick on the couch. He's either with us or with Newsmax or something like that. Right. Kind of the typical one. I was like, I'm watching him on CBS. Of course, answering hard questions. They didn't just let it slide here, but they did announce it was going to be there and it's going to be hosted by President Trump. We'll talk about that, I'm sure, with Rick Tomorrow. Let's go ahead and take another call. One call real quick before we go to break. Let's go to Debra in Georgia who is watching on the Salem News Channel. Go ahead. Hi.
SPEAKER 12 :
I used to listen to your dad a long time ago, and I enjoyed his show like I enjoy yours. I think it's about time that Comey and all the others were indicted for the stuff they put President Trump through. I voted for President Trump three times, and I'd vote for him again. And it's just so much hate in this world, and I can't see why the Democrats can't open their eyes and see what they're doing. I just don't understand it all.
SPEAKER 01 :
will well i mean i mean i agree with a lot of what you're saying deborah i was gonna let you take it but uh i know but to the point you know we we did hear about this grand conspiracy this treasonous conspiracy and we saw how all these parts were working together that uh to some degree as well yes we're excited that there's going to be uh some justice some accountability because we lived through it and it was tough it was a long four years even though he was the president just seeing how the deep state was constantly trying to take him down, constantly trying to make sure he was an ineffective president. And what we're seeing is now maybe just a shimmer of hope and some justice. But once again, there's a lot of bad actors out there that we're not even talking about that may have or may not have charges pending against them. But they're not necessarily coming today. And that clock will run out at some point. Phone lines are open for you.
SPEAKER 02 :
We've got three lines open at 1-800-684-3110. I'd love to pack the calls and just take calls for the rest of the show. Let's do it. We've got two segments. Free open calls Thursday. Well, that's what they call it. It rolls off the tongue. Straight to jail.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's the third time you've said it today.
SPEAKER 02 :
That call, that's all I can think of. It's a good meme. Yeah. Undercooked fish, straight to jail. Overcooked chicken. Also straight to jail. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Hope we bring a little light to your day as we cover the news. And again, support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. Great time to do it as we head towards the holidays. Be a part of the team right now, or you can sign the petition also at ACLJ.org slash sign. Be right back. back to secular i do want to take your phone calls today i love to to pack the lines right now we got four lines open so i saw pat he said really you're gonna take calls only he got very excited well i can't take all the calls only if there's uh no call so right now we got a couple calls on hold we'll do our best to get to those as well some others and there was that uh it happened you know right was we were going on the air yesterday there was that shooting that happened in the ice facility uh in texas and we had ted cruz come out make some statements and of course It seems like another just horribly tragic situation where someone who is very unwell was trying to commit a crime against ICE officials. And not that that's justified. Obviously, that's horrendous. But couldn't even successfully accomplish that. Actually took out probably the people he was trying to, quote unquote, save. Right.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and the reality of this is this is another indication of political violence. This is trails off of rhetoric. Yeah, what we've seen is what they did in L.A. with riots, burning cars, all trying to stop ICE activity. You've seen it around the country, the protests that weren't just protests of words that got in many places not a peaceful assembly as is guaranteed by the constitution and this once again you're just seeing this rhetoric of the horrific things they're saying about ICE in general and those that work for the government that put their lives on the line that are putting in these dangerous situations now you're seeing people trying to assassinate members of federal law enforcement yeah
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, look, the ice situation has been something that's been very heated, very discussed. And look, we've told you we have kind of a nuanced view on it here at the ACLJ of what's going on, how it should be treated, who are they going after. There's a whole alligator Alcatraz, and that went back and forth. forth of what that situation looked like and i told you if i thought that was actually alcatraz if we were talking about creating something that was kind of gimmicky like what they were branding is that and we were talking about sending the worst of the worst the criminals the the people who were doing just the worst atrocious crimes to somewhere like an alcatraz more power to you When it became a, hey, it's going to be a facility to get people in and out of for ICE and for immigration, sure, there's going to be a mix of very bad actors involved, and I think those need to be taken care of. But then the other side of it, which is people that, sure, were here illegally, and I saw Tom Holman. Saying, look, anyone who's here illegally is here illegally. It doesn't really matter why. But to me, there is a difference in the way you treat someone who's been here for 15 years working and doing all these things, has family here, than someone who's coming here to specifically commit crime. And I mean violent crime or drug traffic. How you handle that, a whole different situation. I would love to take your calls at 1-800-684-3110. But the rhetoric is the problem here. Because the people that say it, not the people who commit the crimes you're inspiring people you're almost giving permission to people who are already probably very unwell and they're just looking for something they're looking for something and you've just told them that this is the worst thing ever you've just told them that president trump is hitler you've told them these things uh these the nature of those beasts and the problem is when you do that you're forgetting that maybe people can't read between the lines of what you're saying And that though I completely disagree with your commentary, that it could inspire people to do very, very awful things. We've seen that now over the last two years and even over the last few weeks. So the rhetoric does have to change. You've never really heard that kind of rhetoric coming from us. I've been very, very careful on the words that we say. I've tried to do the best jobs we can. Hopefully it's not like John Bolton where they're going to go, well, look at all the horrible things Logan has said. I don't think you'll find them. Maybe you will. We've been pretty careful because I do believe that we have to keep humanity in check. We have to keep the human side of this in check. That it can't just be hate rhetoric, hate rhetoric, hate rhetoric to the point of where you start inspiring not only violence, but violence and murder. Or you start inspiring even worse, mass murder, things like that. And hopefully we are going to see a change in tune. Doesn't feel that way right now, but you never know what can happen right now. And I do want to take some calls on this. And take some calls, obviously, on the situation involving either Letitia James or James Comey. I know a lot of you have questions or comments about that. We have two lines open at 1-800-684-3110. Let's jump over to Joseph, who is calling from Florida, who's watching on Pluto TV. I assume that's probably on the Salem News Channel, where we're on live each and every day for free. Obviously, all of our platforms are free, YouTube, ACLJ.org. That's a great one if you have a TV, smart TV that maybe has Pluto or any of these. You can just go to Salem News Channel, and we broadcast there live 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. Go ahead there, Joseph.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, thank you for taking my call. Love Pluto, love it's free. So I used to be a DOD, Department of Defense contractor, and I'm not really sure, but I was always told that when it came to fraud— There's no statute of limitations. And I've heard what Hunter Biden, who committed fraud allegedly on his taxes, Letitia James, who's talking about fraud. So I don't know. You guys have good lawyers. You ought to look into it. Go ahead. I'm under the impression that fraud has no statute of limitations.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, Joseph. Well, we do have an incredible team of lawyers. I'm sure a lot of them are listening right now. So you know what, guys? Text me. Hit me up with the information. Then we can probably pull it up, but I want to make sure that we're doing it correctly here.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, the statute of limitations for mortgage fraud cases is typically 10 years, obviously. individual statutes carry different statute of limitations. Some are shorter, some are longer, some have no statute of limitations. But it does appear that mortgage fraud, as what we would be talking about in the case of Letitia James, would be about 10 years. But there's also sometimes when that actually starts or if it, while the mortgage is still active, maybe there could be variants to the whole situation too. If you think about other factors that play into a crime like that or any other fraud where if someone is continuing to carry out the fraud, then the crime is not completed. There could be arguments by a prosecutor in situations like that where you may have started the act at this point, but it didn't ever stop. Therefore, the statute of limitations has not run yet. So there's things like that, that there are limits, but then a lot of times in the law, there are extenuating circumstances that-
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a good comment. Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
I like that comment.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a solid comment. Solid comment. Give it up. A little hand clap for, who was it? I said Richard. Richard, good for you on YouTube. There you go. I like that. Phone lines, again, are still open. I told you I want to take some calls. Let's keep it going. We've got three minutes left in this segment. In the next segment, we're going to pack it up with calls. It's going to be a lot of fun. Let's go to Susan in Vermont, watching also on a Roku device. I don't know what she's watching on, but you know what? Good enough for me. Go ahead, Susan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hi, Salem news channel. It's awesome. Great conversation. We're getting the first rain in Vermont. We've had him like three months and what a ray of sunshine that call me is going to be indicted. The next most important is going to hit is going to be to hit George Soros with Rico charges and shut his operation down. Honest to God, he is criminally evil.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, Susan, a lot of people have issues with George Soros. And look, some of the George Soros Foundation have been taking ads out against us. So I can't say necessarily that I disagree with the fact that they put together a lot of situations. I don't know how much specifically the guy himself is involved at this point. He is a very old man.
SPEAKER 01 :
His son has mostly taken over the operations at this point.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't know what's going to happen there. But Susan, it sounds like you're very overwhelmed with what's happening in Vermont. Also, congratulations on the rain.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, that's great. Well, and she was referring to the fact that DOJ has instructed more than half a dozen U.S. attorneys to start looking into groups funded by George Soros and his Open Society Foundation. And that is in relation to the fact that There are allegations that a lot of the protest funding, a lot of these things in this country may stem from Soros dollars. And if there is a. rico uh operation there or there's something to that nature that it should be investigated now whether or not that goes anywhere that is where that is very early stages of something like that and i know a lot of times the the easy thing is like oh all the protests are funded by soros in reality they may be by a bunch of different groups and so i think what the doj may be looking at is if there's a common source for funding when it comes to non-profits or or activist groups that are funding and helping stage and set up these protests that end up in many cases opening the door to violence to riot to uh to burning cars in the streets and things of that nature so I think the DOJ looking at it is something that is probably welcomed, but I would say we are a long way away from seeing anything like that really coming to fruition.
SPEAKER 02 :
Hey, we got one minute left in this segment. When we get back, we're going to take, right now, it looks like five calls at least, maybe six, if you call in right now, 1-800-684-3110. I like hearing from you. And of course, if you have questions involving this or any of the topics that have happened in the last couple of weeks, I'm happy to talk about it. Or of course, the work of the ACLJ, which I'm more than happy to talk about. I'd love to talk about that ad nauseum. Just continue to talk about the great work our organization does, whether that's in the law or it's in the courtroom. whether that's on your television screen, whether that's in social media, such an incredible team here in our Nashville office, incredible team in our Washington DC office is continuing to grow. That's only because of people like you. We cannot be on the top of everything. We can't be the top technology. We can't be in the top broadcasting. We can't be the top legal organization without your support. We are a hundred percent funded by you, the individual donor. Be a part of that team right now. Go to ACLJ.org. And if you can't, right now sign the petition just get involved the free different ways you can do it check out the great content we'll be right back with your calls and comments coming up all right final segment of the day we got five calls maybe six calls can we do it yes we can well that was a That was what Barack Obama would say. That's what Bob the Builder would say. Yes. I don't know who you trust more. I don't know the background of Bob the Builder. He may not be the most trustworthy in construction. I don't know what he does in the construction business.
SPEAKER 01 :
Don't know how long his buildings stand. Let's continue on. Let's do it.
SPEAKER 02 :
We're going to go. Let's go in order. Why not? We're going to order those who called in. Pat, California, watch it on YouTube. Go ahead, Pat.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, uh, Logan and will, you guys are doing yeoman's work over there. Thank you for all your hard work. And, um, you know, I, I just wanted to say, uh, regarding, you know, those who commit murder and crimes, they deserve to face the consequences, but then they are to be pitied simultaneously. And before they commit more crimes, it's up to us to be agents of the gospel and mercy and to put on the full armor of God like I feel like you guys are doing. And we all know that you can't legislate morality, but you can pass laws and uphold laws that prevent sin. Do you guys think that with Comey, he will really... I mean, my feeling is these guys always end up getting embarrassed and they get a slap on the wrist. Do you think there's really going to be a consequence to this guy besides him going out and writing a book? I know, doing a tour.
SPEAKER 02 :
If this wasn't a President Trump administration, I would say I find it unlikely that anything would happen. Now, I do believe... You may be shooting too high for what you expect the consequences to be. I think we've talked about that before. What is the top consequences for this? Will it be jail time? Will it be a fine? What could it look like? I don't think this is going to jail for life. I don't believe that is going to be on the table. I'm sure there'll be some kind of deal worked out. But in terms of the public opinion, I understand feeling that way that it usually ends up like a slap on the wrist and it does feel that way. And I would feel that way if it wasn't for who I know is in charge right now.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right. And when you're talking about perjury before Congress, it's like a five-year maximum penalty when it comes to what he could be facing here. So the fact of the matter, and that's what we were kind of talking about earlier, is that, yes, this is in relation to all the crimes that he oversaw and all of the way he subverted the government and the presidency and weaponized his office. But what It appears from the reporting they are attempting to get an indictment on isn't something that would fully fit what we feel like the what he unleashed on this country should be that type of penalty. So I think that's why you also have to temper your expectations a little bit and and think about what justice looks like. Also, it's out of the hands of the DOJ other than the fact that they will prosecute it. It still is up to the jury to convict. They have to make their case. So there's a lot of different ways this could go going forward.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right. Thank you so much for calling, Pat. We're going to take some more phone calls. Fox News right now is covering, Will, the breaking news that Hershey won a lawsuit over their Halloween candy. I would like to do some research. Tell me what that is. Is it that they thought the suit saying the pumpkin doesn't look... Pumpkin-y enough? Pumpkin enough? Is that really what we're talking about on the news? We've got a big, busy day on the news. Let's go to Mike, who's calling in Tennessee, watching on YouTube. Mike, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, sir. I was calling to talk to you about the current attacks on the government from what seems to be the left side, the radical left side. I believe a lot of this is a double-edged sword. Number one, They're stopping the government from doing a job that needs to be done, which is get the illegals out of the country. And at the same time, they're being pushed by, I believe, the Democrats are pushing them so they can slow it down enough so when election time rolls around, if there's anybody left... They know that the illegals are automatically going to vote for the Democrats because of what they've done for them.
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, we know, Mike, that the election issues have always come off when you really look at what the left has to do. And I say this not dramatically. I don't even say this jokingly. The... Cultural and racial push that they do often comes off so egregious and so close. When you actually look at the reasons why they say there should not be voter ID, the reasons why there should not be some of these situations, why they don't believe in a tighter border or anything like that, you are right. It's all politics. It's all politics based around race and ethnicity and location. It never has to do with the individual person. It's about giving wide swaths of people. It's why when they said, can you believe how many people voted for President Trump? More ever in the African-American community, more ever in the Latin community. The way that that's even tracked has just because those have been assumed Democrat. Because why? Because they pander and they also honestly create, when the eyes are open to realize what they're doing, it becomes much clearer. Okay, thank you so much though, Mike, for calling here in Tennessee. All right, should we take some more calls? Yeah, let's go to more phone calls. Let's see what we got next, Logan. All right, let's go to Liz in Texas. Listen on the radio. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, hi. I am actually a teacher, and I've gotten a lot of these kids that came up with the caravans in my classroom, so you've got to hear me out on this. When you give an inch and say, we've got to treat these people who've come here and worked and all that differently than the ones who are doing crimes, You need to understand they're all doing crimes because you have to understand these ones who are over here working, they're helping the other ones get here too. And I'm getting kids in my classroom over the last six years, and I'm going to get really emotional. I've had these little girls come up by coyotes. It's been raped multiple times on the way up. And the problem at the border is really the human trafficking element. And it's the kids who are suffering.
SPEAKER 02 :
I obviously can't speak into that. I will not disagree with you on that. I will not say that this isn't something we need to be really taking seriously. Of course we should be. When it comes to human trafficking, take it the most seriously. That's why we have to really get the border in check here. And I'm not calling against that. I'm just talking about the way the rhetoric has taken place, even from both sides of this. When you have these sort of attacks on an ICE facility, it is because the rhetoric is not necessarily always spreading lies, but it's also spreading... A different kind of emotion. When you have a parody video show up on the Department of Homeland Security's X account, where though I did think it was funny and I laughed, I'll be honest, to the theme to Pokemon where you got to catch them all. And then you have a situation where there's people getting shot in an ICE facility because they took that too far and thought it was inappropriate or whatever it may be. And, of course, the left is saying, look how horrible this is. Both sides. I'm not saying anyone is responsible or not responsible, including the kids in your classroom. I feel horrible about that, of course.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and I think also to the point, there's a lot, I feel like a big difference between what illegal immigration to this country, which was not appropriate, not the way that we should have handled it from decades ago to the last Biden administration and the way it became so out of control. And it increased the criminal activity because the coyotes and the cartels found it to be more profitable.
SPEAKER 02 :
I didn't realize we only had a minute left. Can we put Ray up real quick? Ray, you were on hold for a little while. The other two, I'm sorry, Jill and Jim, we're not going to get to you today. Ray, go ahead quickly with your comments. You've got like 20 seconds.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ray, you there? Yeah, I saw Rick Grinnell on Gutfeld, and I invited Gutfeld to go to the Kennedy for a week and maybe have a grassroots tip for show, like action tip and link. You can all donate prayer and join a prayer group. And I just wonder what happened to the kids' videos you had.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, thank you, Ray. I appreciate that. We still have those kids' videos up there. You can go watch our old videos. We don't produce near as many now that kids have been back to school. But you know what? Maybe we'll bring that back, Ray. Thank you so much. You can obviously support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. Keep it going. Thank you so much for being a part of the show today and calling in. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
As the geopolitical landscape shifts, Tony Perkins addresses the pressing concerns surrounding global politics and internal national debates. The episode takes a closer look at the status of democracy in the U.S., exploring findings from a recent Quinnipiac poll that highlights growing political divisions. Congressman John McGuire shares his perspective from the field, discussing the potential implications of Turkey's access to advanced U.S. military technology and the sensitive nature of Middle Eastern diplomacy. With expert guests and dedicated prayer segments, this episode emphasizes the importance of informed advocacy and spiritual support for global peace.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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I think a lot was determined at that meeting, and I have to meet with Israel, and I have to do that also. They know what I want, and I think we can get that one done. I hope we can get it done.
SPEAKER 18 :
That was President Donald Trump today at the White House during his meeting with Turkish President Erdogan, saying a deal to end the war in Gaza may be within reach. Welcome to this September 25th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for joining us today. So coming up, President Trump suggested the U.S. could lift sanctions on Turkey and allow it to buy the U.S. F-35 jets. Now, what does this and a wave of Palestinian statehood recognitions at the U.N. mean for Israel? Chris Mitchell, Middle East Bureau Chief at CBN News, will join us live from Jerusalem to break it all down. Democrats continue to oppose a clean funding bill that the House passed last week, raising the stakes for a potential government shutdown. Congressman John McGuire of Virginia will join me to explore what this means and what could happen next. President Trump says a deal to end the war in Gaza could be close. Now, this comes after U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff revealed that Trump presented a 21-point peace plan during meetings with Muslim leaders at the U.N. General Assembly earlier this week. So joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who has been following this story. Casey, what can you tell us about President Trump's peace plan?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, well, thank you, Tony. President Trump met at the White House today with the Turkish president. And during that meeting, the president said that the ongoing talks between the U.S. and key Middle East leaders are making progress. That includes Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, and Jordan.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think we can get that one done. I hope we can get it done. A lot of people are dying. But we want the hostages back. We don't want them back one this week, one in two months from now, three later, and, you know, like the way it's been going. We got them all back. We got a lot of them back. We got our American, the American Alexander. We got the American hostages back.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now, Trump also said he still needs to meet with Israeli officials and emphasized that returning hostages remains a top priority. It's important to note that President Trump made these comments while sitting next to the Turkish president, who recently referred to Hamas not as a terrorist group but as a resistance movement. Of course, Hamas is officially designated as a terrorist organization by both the U.S. and Israel. After meeting with Arab leaders at the U.N., U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, as you said, and along with President Trump, presented a 21-point peace plan for Gaza during talks with Muslim leaders at the General Assembly earlier this week. At the U.N., several countries recognize the Palestinian state. However, President Trump and others have emphasized that granting statehood at this moment would effectively reward Hamas for the October 7 attack, Tony.
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Again, as I've said before, I absolutely agree with that. Congressman John McGuire of Virginia will join me shortly to discuss this meeting between President Trump and Erdogan. Now, on a different topic, Casey, a Quinnipiac poll shows growing worry about democracy and political violence in the United States. What's behind these fears?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, this is kind of an alarming poll, Tony. This poll shows growing pessimism across the country, with 53 percent of Americans saying democracy in the U.S. is, quote, not working, while 41 percent say it is. Now, this divide is sharply along party lines. Seventy-four percent of Democrats believe the system's broken, compared to just 22 percent of Republicans. However, 79 percent of Americans overall say the U.S. is in political crisis, Tony.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, a lot to be praying about when we look at the division that's in this nation. I want to go to another topic in D.C. or in the Virginia area. There's reports that the newly sworn in U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Lindsay Halligan, is preparing to ask a grand jury to indict the former FBI director, James Comey. What do we know about this?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's a big update, Tony. Right. So the former FBI director, James Comey, he could soon be indicted for allegedly lying to Congress. Prosecutors are expected to present the case to a grand jury in Virginia this week. But of course, Comey was a key figure in the Russia probe and a longtime Trump critic. He's faced growing calls from Republicans to be held accountable. President Trump himself has urged swift action, saying justice must be served now. So this case is being reviewed by, as you said, the newly appointed U.S. attorney, Lindsey Halligan, after concerns that the previous prosecutor was stalling.
SPEAKER 18 :
Casey, one more item, and that is the latest on the efforts to fund government. How's that going?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, everyone's watching it, and of course you are closely, but the White House is ordering federal agencies to prepare for large-scale layoffs if the government shuts down next week. So in a memo released Wednesday night, the Office of Management and Budget instructed agencies to consider cutting jobs and programs that would lose funding and don't align with the president's priorities. Democrats continue to oppose a clean funding bill that the House passed last week, raising the stakes for a potential shutdown, Tony.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, what's interesting, Casey, is the president in a shutdown can determine what stays open, what doesn't, what gets funded. And I think this was really kind of a negotiation move saying, hey, you guys want to shut it down? Go right ahead, because this is what we're going to do. Would not be surprised if this brings the Democrats to the table. Casey, thanks so much. Appreciate you joining us. All right, joining me now to go further into President Trump's meeting today with Turkey's President Erdogan is Congressman John McGuire. He's a member of the House Armed Services Committee and the Committee on the Oversight of Government Reform. He represents the 5th Congressional District of Virginia. Congressman McGuire, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, Tony, great to see you. I'm all over the district having meetings today, so I apologize. I'm out of the truck. Great to see you again, and there's a lot going on in the world right now, and it's an honor to be part of it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Congressman, you are a veteran of the United States Navy. You're a Navy SEAL. You understand security concerns. There has been growing concerns about our NATO ally, Turkey. I mean, what's been going on in the Middle East, their hostilities toward Israel. In fact, earlier this week, President Erdogan saying that he did not see Hamas as a terrorist organization. Are you concerned that they might have access to the latest U.S. technology like the F-35?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm very concerned about that. And, you know, when I just I was in Israel the first week of August and they I don't know if you know, but they've uncovered the true city of David. It's like 30 feet underground and they're digging through there and they're finding old tablets in Hebrew. And the leaders of Turkey refuse to recognize it because they recognize that that Hebrew there and those tablets are in Hebrew. Then it acknowledges the ancient existence of the Jewish people in the land of Israel. And so I'm definitely concerned about those folks. We're supposed to be on the same team. We're supposed to be allies, but I'm very concerned.
SPEAKER 18 :
When we look at their priorities and even what they're doing in Syria, I do think there's reason to be concerned with President Erdogan. I do want to get you to comment a little bit on Israel. I know you were there. I've actually been to that same site a couple of times. The president reportedly, now we don't know this for certain, it was reported by three individuals, the AP reporting it, that in some of the sideline meetings that the president had with Islamic leaders from the Middle East, saying that he would not allow Israel to annex, quote unquote, the West Bank, which is Judea and Samaria. Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think that I trust President Trump. I mean, he's the art of the deal and a heck of a peacemaker. And I also trust Netanyahu to know what's going on in his area. I mean, he's got seven fronts, and he deserves to do what he needs to do to keep Israel and Israeli people safe. It's a very complicated place. You know, I was there, and I went into the West Bank. And I don't know if you know, but when you go into the West Bank, there are signs that say, no Jews allowed. And I was around these guards that had ninja masks on and AK-47s, and they were surrounding the freshman congressmen. And one of them had the audacity to say to us, maybe if Israel fed the starving children, we could have peace. And I looked left and I looked right and I couldn't believe anyone wouldn't speak up. So I probably shouldn't have done this, but I said, maybe if you didn't send ballistic missiles into Israel and kill innocent people. I said, maybe if you didn't videotape and laugh while you're killing people and cutting off body parts. And I said, maybe if you freed the hostages, then maybe we could have peace. The media is not reporting both sides of the story and it's very complicated.
SPEAKER 18 :
It is. In fact, I was speaking with two of the governors from actually the governor of Judea and the governor of Samaria earlier today. I've been in that region many, many times and you've described it aptly. There are many areas that Jewish people This is the biblical heartland. 80% of what we read about in the Bible was in Judea and Samaria. And there are places that Jewish people cannot go. Israelis cannot go because it's Palestinian area controlled by the Palestinian Authority. And they're harboring terrorists. And going back to Turkey, many of the weapons that they have are coming through Jordan from Turkey into Judea and Samaria.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you're right, Tony, and that's why I'm concerned. Is, you know, President, well, Ronald Reagan said, trust but verify. But if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, it might be a duck. So I am concerned.
SPEAKER 18 :
I know you're in the district, many members back in the district this week going around having meetings. The House last week before you left approved a clean CR. That went over to the Senate. Senate Democrats have refused to advance it. Give us the latest. How do you see this playing out?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, one thing I would tell the viewers is that they created the modern budget process in 1977 with 12 spending bills, which is a budget. We've only ever passed all of them four times. We've only ever passed all of them four times since 1977. The last one we passed, budget, all 12 spending bills, was 1996. So we've been living on a CR ever since 1996, which I would rather have a budget. I'm sure you'd rather have a budget. We did our job in the House, and we went home. The Senate, Schumer, I think they're playing chicken with President Trump, and they're threatening to shut down the government. But if we do shut down the government, that's on the Democrats.
SPEAKER 18 :
Again, the House passing a clean CR, which, by the way, we've talked about this before the program this week. The Democrats voted for this same funding bill before. They just won't do it now because they're trying to extract concessions from the president to spend billions more dollars that have that were that were cut out by the reconciliation process.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, Tony, what they want to do is they put illegal aliens and criminals over law-abiding citizens. They want money in this CR to continue paying health care and other programs to people who broke the law and came here illegally. And these folks, we don't know, 15, 20 million, many of them are gang members and murderers, as President Trump says. They have been robbing, raping, and killing the American people. We have nothing wrong with immigration, but legal immigration. And that's why I'm so glad we have Tom Homan and Kristi Noem and everybody else, you know, working so hard to make our community safer.
SPEAKER 18 :
Congressman, we appreciate you taking time to join us as you're out there crisscrossing your district and always appreciate your insights on these important issues.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thanks for having me. And please pray for Charlie Kirk's family. I went to that. It was like a spiritual revival in Arizona. I was there. I felt the spirit. And on the way home, I wore a shirt that said freedom on it, just like Charlie was wearing. Young people and old came up to me and said they watched online and they're going back to church for the first time ever. An 80-year-old said that he felt ashamed he didn't know Charlie Kirk. And I've heard that churches are packed. And I've also heard that some atheists said they want to learn more about Jesus now because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. So God bless you. Thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thank you, John. And it is a unique moment, one that we need to steward appropriately as we pray for our nation. And speaking of prayer, we're going to be praying a little bit later in the program for Israel. So stick around for that. Also want to remind you, coming up, the PrayVote Stand Summit. California, Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills, coming up on October the 17th and 18th. You can join us. Go to prayvotestand.org to find out more. All right, don't go away. We're back with Chris Mitchell after this.
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No problem, Tony. Great to be with you.
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All right. On Tuesday, President Trump met with Arab and Muslim leaders. And what we've heard so far is that the meeting has prompted some concerns. What are you hearing there in Israel?
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Well, there are concerns about that meeting and supposedly out of that meeting it proposed what Trump proposed was this 21 comprehensive point plan to end the war in Gaza, release all of the hostages and then for a post-Gaza war governance by perhaps Arab and Muslim nations. One of those particularly issues will be what will happen with sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Apparently the UAE and I presume other nations in that meeting, that would be a non-starter for them and that may actually break this potential deal. So that is really concerning for many people that it would abrogate, it would stop any annexation of sovereignty over Judea and Samaria.
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Well, just this last weekend, I believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu said that they were moving forward for their annexation.
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Yeah, there's a lot of pressure here, momentum within his government that this would be an opportunity for Israel, especially when all these other nations are declaring for a Palestinian state, France, Canada, the UK, and others. This would be an opportunity to declare that this potential Palestinian state really won't have any ability to go ahead and do that. and that the annexation and the sovereignty would make the claim for the biblical heartland of Israel. You've been there many times, Tony, I know, and this is the heartland of the Bible. And this is what many people believe here in Israel from the coalition government, that they really have a claim to that biblically and historically.
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Israel has kind of been a punching bag at the United Nations General Assembly this week. A lot of countries have taken shots, even some countries that have historically been allies. What's the sense there in Israel as to what they're seeing happen on the national stage? Is this another day for them, or is there a growing concern?
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I think there's growing concern, Tony, especially almost two years after October 7th, that there's a growing international, some people call it a diplomatic tsunami against Israel, and it's being blamed for a genocide in Gaza that they don't feel has any merit. If you can't have a genocide, if you're pouring in humanitarian aid there, and they're doing what probably no other army in history has done by giving text messages, phone calls, leaflets, trying to get Gazans out of harm's way, and yet Israel's being accused of a genocide. Just yesterday, Mahmoud Abbas, president of the Palestinian Authority, he was calling Israeli a genocide. And let me just tell you what some of his own government is saying. And they're saying, we own the place. Israel will come to an end. The goal is to liberate Palestine from the river to the sea. You can find that on a website called Palestinian Media Watch, finding out what the Palestinians say in their own language. And they, in many ways, are calling for a genocide. But so to your point and question, Tony, I think many people feel like Israel is getting increasingly isolated and Jews around the world are getting more concerned about their own safety in places like the UK, France and places in Europe and even the US.
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What do you anticipate that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will say tomorrow at the General Assembly of the UN?
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Well, I think he's going to make a robust defense of what the IDF has done for the past two years. He's going to come against these calls for genocide. He's also going to come against many of the nations that have called for a Palestinian state. This is what he said when he was leaving the airport, Tony. He's going to denounce those leaders who, instead of denouncing the murderers, rapists and child burners on October 7, want to give them a state in the heart of the land of Israel He says this will not happen. So I think he's going to have a robust defense of Israel on the world stage. He's done it many times. He's been there many times. But people need to pray for him right now for wisdom, not only tomorrow, but also with this pivotal meeting, I think, on Monday with President Trump.
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Well, Chris, that's a good segue into praying. We're praying today on the air for Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel, the situation. And we've got a little less than a minute left. Would you pray?
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Father. Thank you, Tony. Father, we just pray right now for President Trump, for his wisdom. He's been meeting with many, many leaders, and he feels like they're close to a breakthrough. So we pray for President Trump right now. And Father, we pray especially for Prime Minister Netanyahu on the verge of a major speech, a pivotal speech in the history of Israel and subsequent meetings at the White House. We pray for your will to be done through this speech, through these meetings, and that you would have your purposes and plans, and that you would defend your chosen people and the state of Israel. We ask this in Jesus' name.
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Amen. Amen. Straight from Jerusalem. Chris Mitchell, thanks so much for joining us.
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Thanks, Tony.
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All right, folks, more prayer on the other side of the break, so don't go away. In fact, call your friends, invite them to join us as we pray.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. As we discussed in the last segment with CBN's Chris Mitchell, this is an extremely consequential week for Israel. Right now, the world's eyes are on the Jewish nation as world leaders are gathered in New York City for the United Nations General Assembly. As we discuss tomorrow, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is scheduled to speak. Now, given the gravity of the moment, we want to pause. and take this time on the air to pray. So we're dedicating the remainder of today's program to provide you with some perspectives and information so that you can engage in prayer for the Jewish nation. Now, we want to use the spiritual authority we've been given as followers of Christ. So we're going to be praying for them from key governmental cities around the world. We just prayed from Jerusalem. We're going to pray again from Jerusalem, Geneva, New York, and Washington. And we're going to start... by staying in Jerusalem. Joining me is Rick Ridings. He is the founder of Sukkot Hallel, a ministry that lifts up worship intercession 24 hours a day from their facility overlooking the Temple Mount, Mount Zion, and the Mount of Olives. For those of you who have watched Washington Watch when I've been in Jerusalem, I have done the program from the top of their building. Rick, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for staying up late to pray with us.
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Thank you, Tony. It's great to be with you.
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You may have heard Chris Mitchell as he was discussing the situation earlier. Would you lead us in prayer from Israel's eternal capital, the city of Jerusalem?
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Yes, I'd like to start by proclaiming a scripture from Isaiah 28, verses 5 and 6. It says, The Lord has promised that he will come with his royal crown upon them, even as he did upon Queen Esther at a very strategic moment. It says he will be a spirit of justice to the one who sits in judgment, a source of strength to those who turn back the battle at the gate. So, Lord God of Israel, we thank you that Ultimately, you have said the word of the Lord will come forth from Jerusalem. We know that will be at its fullness when Jesus returns and is seated on this hill in Jerusalem on his holy hill, on his holy throne. But we pray for Prime Minister Netanyahu. that he would be a voice for truth, that he would be a voice for true justice, that he would be able to expose many of the lies that have come against your purposes and your plans at this time to totally uproot Hamas, to no longer prune them and let them just grow back even more numerous with more tunnels and more missiles and more terrorists. We believe you that this is the moment. The battle is at the gate of this nation. And we believe you to give him your word from Jerusalem that he may explain in such a way that any that are open would be able to hear the truth and begin to question what they have been told and what they've been fed. We thank you, Lord, that even in Babylon, you raised up Daniel as a prophetic voice in Babylon. He declared your purposes, your plans, and your will. And because he did that, no one could say, God is not just. I never had an opportunity to hear the truth. Some rejected the truth. But even the great emperor Nebuchadnezzar, after he was severely humbled, acknowledged the truth of what Daniel had proclaimed. and gave glory to the Lord God of Israel as the God above all gods, the only true and living God. So we pray for that Daniel anointing to be upon Prime Minister Netanyahu, not only in his speech, but also in these critical meetings on Monday with President Trump and many world leaders. May no trap be able to work against him. May he have the discernment of Daniel in that situation and the boldness to speak as Daniel spoke in the midst of Babylon. In the name of Jesus. Amen.
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Amen. Thank you, Rick. Appreciate that. Thanks for joining us. Speaking of Daniel, we're going to go to Geneva, Switzerland, where Daniel Obie is joining us. Switzerland, Geneva, Switzerland is a city that is really at the seat of global government today, where the UN Human Rights Council and so many UN and global government bodies are located. along with hundreds of international NGOs. And so we want to pray from that place. Daniel is founder of Candlelight International, a network of believers that enables individuals to be effective and efficient in transforming their local communities. Daniel, welcome to Washington Watch. Got about a minute and a half. I'm going to ask you to pray.
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Thank you, Tony, for having me, and I'm so privileged to be with you today. Before I start, I would like to read a scripture from 1 Kings 8, 5 to 11. Five. And King Solomon and all the congregation of Israel that were assembled unto him were with him before the ark, sacrificing sheep and oxen that could not be told nor numbered for multitude's sakes. And the priest brought in the ark of the covenant of the Lord unto his place into the oracle of the house. to the most holy place, even under the wings of the cherubims. 7 For the cherubims spread forth their two wings over the place of the ark, and the cherubims covered the ark and the staffs thereof above. 8 And they drew out the staffs, that the ends of the staffs were seen out in the holy place before the oracle, and they were not seen without. and there they are unto this day.
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There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone which Moses put there at Horeb, when the Lord made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
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And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the Lord. 11. so that the priest could not stand to minister the cause of the cloud for the glory.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch, this special edition as we pray for Israel. I do want to remind you in about three weeks, like-minded Christ followers from around the country are going to gather at Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills in California to pray. Let's talk about voting and standing. It's our Pray, Vote, Stand Summit. If there was ever a time that we needed God to move in our nation, It's now. So I encourage you to join us October the 17th and 18th in California for this powerful gathering where we will be praying. We will be praying. And we're going to be seeking God's hand upon this nation, not just cultural renewal, but spiritual revival. To learn more, enter register, visit PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. All right, as I mentioned, for those just joining us, we've stepped away from today's normal programming to just pray, to pray for the nation of Israel as world leaders meet for the 80th session of the United Nations General Assembly. Scripture is very clear that we need to be praying for Israel. It tells us that in Psalm 122. And it tells us whoever blesses Israel will be blessed in Genesis chapter 12. And unfortunately, there's a growing number of countries around the world that have lined up against the nation of Israel and have joined the call to recognize a so-called Palestinian state, which, you know, in and of itself sounds fine. But it means taking the land, Judea and Samaria, away from Israel. Now, that's not based on historic, objective, or even legal criteria for recognition of this Palestinian state, but rather it's out of animus against the Jewish nation and misguided sentiments on the way Israel is conducting its war against Hamas. This war could be over. if Hamas would let those terrorists go. So we want to pray for Israel, pray against the spirit of anti-Semitism, and pray for the prime minister who will be speaking tomorrow at the UN and later meeting with President Trump. So joining me now to continue in our prayer for the Jewish nation is Tomas Sandel. He's the founding director of the European Coalition for Israel. Tomas is in New York this week for the UN proceedings. Tomas, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Thank you.
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Before you go into prayer and leading us in prayer, can you give us a sense of what it's been like to be up there at the United Nations this week?
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I think this is a watershed moment in history. We've been coming here for the last 14 years, and I never seen or experienced anything like it right now. And that's on two levels. One is that Israel as a state is being diplomatically isolated. At the last vote, we saw only eight nations out of 193, I think it is. standing with Israel. That's a very small number. But what we see at the same time is that there is growing anti-Semitism on the streets in Europe, but also here in New York. And if there was ever a time to stand in prayer with the Jewish people, this is the time. And as Europeans, we always ask this question, what would we have done in the 1930s? That question can be asked in a different way. What are we going to do now, today?
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That's really a poignant question because looking back on history where your decision really doesn't matter, you can say, well, what would I have done then? Well, you're absolutely right. That same question stands before us now in a very real and tangible way. So, Tomas, with that in mind, would you pray for us? Yes.
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Yes, Father, thank you that you are the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You are the God of Israel, and you are. Your son, Jesus, is on the throne. So even as the nations rage, as it says in Psalm 2, that they are coming against your people, we know that you are on the throne. But, Father, we pray not only for Israel, for the prime minister who will speak tomorrow, but also for the nations. Father, I thank you for those nations that have the courage to stand with Israel, thinking of Argentina, Paraguay, the Pacific Islands, Hungary, and of course these great nations, the United States. I thank you for the United States for being a nation that want to bless Israel. But I pray that that group of eight would grow, that there would be more, more sheep nations. So, Father, give the wisdom to the prime minister tomorrow as he speaks. And as he has been a prophetic voice so many years before, let him speak prophetically to the nations again. But may the nations hear what the Lord is saying and respond accordingly. This I pray in Jesus' name. Amen.
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Amen. Tomas, thank you so much for joining us, and we'll be praying for you as well as you're there praying in New York City. As Tomas was talking about, there are more than 150 member countries of the United Nations now that have recognized a so-called Palestinian state, with among the latest being the United Kingdom, Australia, Portugal, Canada, and France. There are still countries, though, that continue to stand with Israel. Earlier this month, 10 countries voted against the declaration outlining steps toward a so-called two-state solution. They were Israel, the U.S., Argentina, Hungary, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, and Tonga. Now, these countries are unlikely to budge in favor of a Palestinian statehood. So joining me now from one of these countries is Pastor Jacinta Papp of the Bread of Life Church in Budapest, the capital city of Hungary. Pastor Jacinta, thank you so much for joining us late at night there in Hungary. I appreciate you coming on to join us.
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Thank you very much.
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Now, we're thankful that your country and others are standing firm for Israel. As a representative standing in for these other countries, will you pray and pray for continuing unwavered commitment from these countries to stand on the side of truth?
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Yes, that would be an honor. We are very glad to be part of this nation, Hungary, which stands with Israel for a long time now. And I just want to start with a Bible verse from Ezekiel chapter 25, verses 15 to 17. This is what the Sovereign Lord says. The people of Philistia have acted against Judah out of bitter revenge and long-standing contempt. Therefore, this is what the sovereign Lord says. I will raise my fists of judgment against the land of Philistines. I will wipe out the Carathites and utterly destroy the people who live by the sea. I will execute terrible vengeance against them to punish them for what they have done. And when I have inflicted my revenge, they will know that I am the Lord. Jesus, we come before you with these words. We know these were spoken more than 2,500 years ago, but you are the same God. Thank you, Lord, that those nations who choose to honor Israel, no matter what Israel is doing, but Israel is your apple of your eye, is your chosen nation. Jesus, those nations who stand with Israel, they will be rewarded. And I ask for all the nations who have closed their eyes, who have turned their back to Israel, who have turned their back to you, Lord, that they will come to realize what is happening. They will come to realize how you treat nations that do not stand with Israel. And I also just pray for all the people of Palestine, everyone who is an Arab or who is a Karathite, a Cretan or wherever people are from. Lord, that whatever you need to do right now, it will make them realize who you are because that's your ultimate purpose. And I also bless Israel as a Hungarian, as a representative of a nation that officially also stands with Israel. I bless Israel. that they will be light in the darkness. They will continue to carry out your will, God. And there will be a clear blessing on Israel and a protection. I speak the blood of Jesus as it was on the doorposts at the time of leaving Egypt. I speak also the blood of Jesus over Israel right now to be protected. Not because we stand with them, but because you stand with them. In the name of Yeshua, I pray. Amen.
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Jacinta, thank you so much for joining us and praying with us tonight.
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Thank you very much.
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And folks, the Prime Minister of Israel will speak tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. Eastern Time. at the United Nations General Assembly. So I would encourage you to be praying for him. Now, I've said this before, and I'll repeat it again, that our support for Israel does not mean that we endorse and support everything that they do, just like I don't support and endorse everything my country does. But I love my country, pray for my country, and I think God has blessed America. And we believe that the Lord has blessed the world through Israel, as he said in Genesis chapter 12. And he says, those who bless you will be blessed, and those who curse you will be cursed. I don't think, and I know there's some that disagree with this, but I do not believe that that had an expiration date. Last, we want to pray from here in the United States as we continue to pray around the country. What is happening? There's so many policy things that are moving around, and we need to pray for our president, our country, this administration to make the right decisions as it pertains to Israel. I mean, just think of the tremendous issues that the president is dealing with each and every day. I know he's got a great staff that's working with him, but these are – weighty issues, and he has to make a lot of decisions very rapidly. He's trying to bring peace in Europe between Ukraine and Russia. He's dealing with these Middle Eastern leaders, and he's trying to keep the Middle East from blowing up. Now, I understand all that weight is not on him from the standpoint spiritually, but politically he's leading. And quite frankly, I think he's doing quite a good job. We need to pray for him. Joining me now is Travis Weber, Vice President for Policy and Government Affairs here at the Family Research Council to pray for the administration as the president makes many, many weighty decisions that will have significant ramifications, good or bad, for our country. Travis, thanks so much for joining us.
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Thank you, Tony.
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All right. Before you pray, any thoughts before you lead us in prayer?
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Tony, I think it's important for us to keep in mind at these times the rapid nature of events and just know that as believers we have authority to bind and to loose and to exercise our authority as covered by the blood of Christ and seated in the heavenly realms over the kingdom of heaven's advancement, Tony, and the protection of people who need the Lord's protection. We'll pray for our president and the administration in that regard to do and accomplish righteousness on the earth. And that is what this is about. It's a lot about aligning with the Lord. And so I think it's important for us and for our viewers and listeners to join with us now and join us in our prayer in this area.
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I want you to lead us in prayer.
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So join with us. Lord, we come before you boldly and just, Lord, speak the blood of Jesus over the president, the administration, every member of the U.S. government right now, Lord, that is acting in their official capacity, Lord, whether they're in New York, at the United Nations, in Washington, D.C., or elsewhere around the United States, Lord. We apply this protection to every member of the federal government, Lord, but specifically those dealing with foreign policy, national security, foreign affairs, and interstate relations, Lord. We ask for clarity to come, Lord, for the president and for other leaders in our government to see the truth lord what is happening behind the scenes lord what is hidden what is happening in the spiritual realm lord we pray that they might see into things behind what is on the surface lord pray for supernatural wisdom grant them supernatural wisdom in these dealings lord in the conversations Specifically, Lord, with these states in the Middle East right now and the president's meeting with Erdogan today in the White House, Lord, we ask for President Trump to have that supernatural wisdom to know how to walk, Lord. We cancel, in the name of Jesus, any confusion, fog, veiling or anything obscuring clarity over the United States. with regard to Israel and the Middle East. Lord, we ask for truth, justice, and righteousness to reign. Lord, we ask for that to go global, but we ask for it to be focused on the Middle East. We ask for protection for the Prime Minister Netanyahu, Lord, as he comes and travels to New York City. We ask for him to be focused under your hand, with your staff in his hand, and your voice. Lord, may you speak through him. May you give him your voice. words and your your strategies lord to accomplish what you're doing lord as we we joined with the previous uh people who prayed lord and just desiring your name to be proclaimed it's about king jesus and lord we desire the name of jesus to be lifted up and the offer of reconciliation to be made for every person to be reconciled to god and and between god and man between god and themselves Lord, whether they're living in Gaza City, in Jerusalem, or anywhere else around the world, Lord, we desire that message of truth, justice, and righteousness and what you have done, Father, on the cross by sending Jesus to pay the penalty for our sins. May that message pierce through the darkness. with a shattering effect may it pierce into hearts and minds of all people observing their surroundings and observing the things at work in the world right now. Lord, we ask for your ways to advance. Lord, from our nation's capital here in Washington, D.C., we ask for your ways to advance here in the United States and in New York City at the U.N. General Assembly right now. We ask for your kingdom to advance tomorrow. In Jesus' name, amen.
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Amen. Thank you, Travis. And as we close out, I also want to encourage you folks to not only be praying for Israel, pray for the peace of Israel. And that includes all the people. We need to be praying for the Palestinians. Pray for those folks in Gaza. Pray for many in Judea and Samaria, Arabs, who do not want to be under the corrupt government. of the Palestinian Authority. So I'm going to close this out with that prayer. And again, I want to encourage you to be praying through the weekend as Prime Minister Netanyahu meets with President Trump on Monday. Father, we do thank you for this time of prayer that we can take this platform the airwaves of America, and we can pray for Israel. We can pray for America, pray for our leaders. We pray, Lord, not only for Israel and the Israelis and the Jewish people, but we pray for all of Israel, the Palestinians that live there, the Arabs that live there. We pray for peace upon that entire land. We pray for freedom for the people in Gaza, Lord, from out from underneath the hand of Hamas, as well as from the that of the Palestinian Authority. And may you be exalted and may all come to know the freedom that is found only in Jesus Christ. For it's in his name we pray. Amen. All right, folks, thanks for joining us, but keep standing and keep praying.
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In this episode of the Kim Monson Show, dive into the intricacies of freedom versus force as Kim is joined by liberty advocate Marshall Dawson. The pair explore pressing political topics and the profound notion of God-given rights amidst the backdrop of current legislative issues at the statehouse. With postmodernism on the rise, the need to reclaim foundational principles of liberty becomes ever more critical.
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It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it's not.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And in studio with me is my good friend, Marshall Dawson. He is a fellow Liberty Toastmaster. He is the president of Liberty Toastmaster Denver. Great to have you here.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, happy Thursday, Kim. I'm really looking forward to this. I always think it's a great experience.
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Well, and I'm going to be traveling here in a couple of weeks. And you're going to be, well, actually, I'm going to be traveling today and then again in a couple of weeks. And you are going to, you're going to handle this microphone for me. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's going to be fun. I haven't actually hosted a radio show in quite some time. A couple of decades now.
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Okay. Well, dust it off. And so you're going to be ready. So we're working on preparing all that. So it's great to have you here. We will talk with our fellow Liberty Toastmasters in segments three and four to get their perspective on the profound concept of God-given rights. And I'm excited about that.
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Yeah, I think it'll be good. You know, one of the things that we do in Toastmasters is learn how to communicate, and we do that with oral communication, right? This is an opportunity for us to explore, right, and pursue what truths are. So I think that having our fellow Toastmasters call in and give us their thoughts, we're going to get a little bit closer to the truth.
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I think so, and we're in such a time in America right now where postmodernism, relativism, we're seeing that that is playing out right now, and it plays out into chaos and destruction. And I think that... There are those that realize that there is evil things that happen in this world. And so these foundational principles, there are foundational principles, and we need to reclaim them. We need to articulate them to other people. And so this is going to be a really great conversation.
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Yeah, and you mentioned the post-modernism thinking. Some of us have been kind of in touch with that and what's been going on, but boy, it has really become obvious to, I think, so many more people here just lately.
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Yes, with the Charlie Kirk murder. That has really stopped a lot of people in their tracks. And so I'm excited where we are positioned. We have been searching, as you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Socialism is not about free stuff. The free stuff is just to get people to vote for it. We're going to be looking at something on this particular ballot in November, and that is free lunches or healthy lunches for kids. Who defines healthy lunches? But it's also going to be funded, and it has been funded by a progressive income tax, which is not fair because that means people are taxed differently. And that is a basis of Marxism. It's a human nature ploy. To say, oh, somebody can get something for free by taxing somebody else. And it's a real character issue regarding this Proposition MM that's going to be on the ballot.
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Yeah, and I think one of the challenges that we have is that there are people who think that we are doing good. You know, people who have money that say, you know what, I'm more than happy to give up some of my money in order to help out those who are less fortunate. But they're coming at it from the wrong direction. Not to mention the fact that, you know, somebody that would be the government is having to kind of point a gun at the face of other people and take their money for that cause. And as you say, it's just not fair.
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Well, and that's force. And government, that's not their proper role to be in charity, to take things via force. And bear in mind, if government is putting in a government program, there is a lot of people that have their hands in the pot before the money gets to the place where You better believe it. Yeah, where they say that it's going to help. So instead, charity should be not forced. In fact, it should be if you are paying lower taxes, you'll have more money in your pocket, and then you can make your choice which charities that you give to. If those charities are not doing the job that you are giving them money to do so, then you don't give them money and they go out of business. Mm-hmm. But government charities, that's not the way to do it. And I want to mention to all of you, I'm going to be working on our voter's guide. And for sure, we will be addressing the two statewide issues, Proposition LL and Proposition MM. And we'll be... I don't mean to laugh. The vibrant Denver, $950 million. They didn't even know what they were going to spend it on. They had to do work studies to figure out what they're going to spend the money on. So we'll definitely take positions on that. But if you want me to take a look at something in your community, and I need your help, Call your local jurisdictions, your city or your town, also your county, your school districts, to see if they're going to have issues on your ballot. And if you will text me at 720-605-0647, we will include that in our voter's guide because it's a monumental task to figure out what's going to be on each of these local jurisdictions. Marshall Dawson.
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Well, I'm looking forward to the voter's guide. I always do. You put out one of the best that I've seen. And quite frankly, I don't even know what we have going on up in Longmont or in the greater Boulder County. I've been kind of out of touch with that here lately.
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So you have some homework.
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Dang it, Kim.
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There's no free lunch, Marshall. So let's get into a couple of things here. Our word of the day is emulate. And thank you, Charisse, for submitting that. And again, you can text me 720-605-0647 if you have a word of the day or a quote of the day that you would like. Emulate is E-M-U-L-A-T-E. And it could be to imitate in an effort to equal or surpass. Number two, to rival with some degree of success. Number three, to imitate the functions of another computer system by means of software. And, Marshall, I have a bunch of old dictionaries. And when a time will allow, I'm always trying to go to that written dictionary to get the definition. So that's what I did. It was, I think, the Random House College Edition from, like, the 1990s. But I would really recommend that you have some old dictionaries around the house because things can change on the Internet.
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Yeah, certainly. And change without you really seeing what just happened. You know, my brain kind of went off the rails there as soon as you started talking about computer systems. I've been using emulators in my job for decades. a long, long time. Now we have computers that are powerful enough we can do simulations in addition to emulating.
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Okay. I never knew that, and I've never heard the word emulator. But to imitate an effort, I think many of us would like to emulate many of the things that Charlie Kirk was doing. He was having a conversation. But the other thing was, it's not just conversation. He was so steeped in these principles of our country. And so we need to make sure that we can emulate that as well.
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You know, I was having a conversation about Charlie Kirk just the other day. It might have been with Brad. I can't remember. Hey, Brad, how you doing? And I mentioned that The important thing about what Charlie was doing when he was having the conversations, you know, when he'd go on the campus and he would invite people up who disagreed with him, his target audience wasn't necessarily that person at the microphone because they're going to be extremely hard to convince of something. The target audience, when you're speaking like that, are all the other people who are around, who are being silent and who are kind of listening and, you know, the gears are working inside of their head. Those are really the people that you can reach when you're having those conversations. So we're not trying to slam dunk on the people that we're having a discussion with. We're trying to talk about principles from a foundational point of view and speak to that wider audience who isn't necessarily making any noise.
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Well, that is an excellent point. And I think that's a good segue to our quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson, born in 1803, died in 1882. He was an American essayist, lecturer, philosopher, minister, abolitionist, and poet. And he was seen as the champion of individualism and critical thinking. And he said this, when the eyes say one thing and the tongue another, a practiced man relies on the language of the first. when they are doing something different than what they're saying. And that's a great segue into our next guest, who is Karen Gorday. She is an entrepreneur. She is the owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting. She is running for Lakewood City Council. And I think one of the reasons is because what she was seeing and what they were saying were two different things. Karen Gorday, welcome to the show. Thank you.
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Good morning, Kim. Thank you. And that's absolutely correct.
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And what is amazing is you decided to do something about it. First of all is you familiarized yourself with what they were proposing. And I think it was Madison said that when the laws become so voluminous, That we can't read them, can't understand them. It doesn't matter if we have actually elected those people. We need to understand what's going on. So you dove into it to understand what's going on in Lakewood regarding zoning and also let's talk about that first, Karen, and your run for Lakewood City Council. And then I want to talk a little bit about your business as well.
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Okay. Yes, so you're right. I dove in, understood it. The proposed zoning prior to Lakewood split it up over four meetings with a whopping 398 pages. So, yes, so the average citizen is not going to look at a 400-page document and try to even understand a topic like zoning, right? But You know, it was just taking it, looking at it, and realizing this is not good for the existing residents. And as you know, we talked last week, there's going to be a citizen's referendum. The referendum, there's so... It's interesting, Tim, because there was a bill passed last year that changed the citizen initiative process. And I think the way they said it is just to make it easier on citizens and to petition the government. But let me just tell you, in talking to the two co-petitioners, Nothing made it easier. It is absolutely more complicated than it was previously.
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And I think that's by design, Karen. By design.
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Exactly.
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And the co-petitioners have been going back and forth with the city of Lakewood for over a week. That is by design as well, because they need to have 3,500 signatures by October 1st. 27th i believe 27th or 28th and they don't have an approved petition and until that petition is approved it cannot be circulated so that that's another strategy is to compress the time for people for citizens to get signatures exactly exactly and the problem is when they split the zoning into four ordinances um The first one is 278 pages plus the petition. And the city came back and said, well, it has to be stapled. Well, that is absolutely impossible because it's almost 300 pages when you add the petition to it. And the co-petitioners are super smart people and said, well, what if we spiral bound it? Well, it took them two days to get approval on spiral bounding the petition. It's just absolutely unbelievable what they've gone through. As of late yesterday, there was one minor change that has been submitted. So hopefully they will have approval today and they can get those petitions out before this weekend.
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Okay. Well, thank you for, first of all, doing your civic duty and stepping up to run for Lakewood City Council. How can people get information about your campaign? What's your website?
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You can go to www.karen4lakewood.com for It's Felt Out. And to your listeners, because most people that want to get involved in Lakewood have stepped up to help with the Citizens Initiative. What I really, really need for my campaign, besides money, because I'm running against the Dems, is people to put flyers on doors the weekend of October 4th and October 11th. Because I don't know that the folks I had lined up in Lakewood could help because they need to get these petitions signed. So that's my ask for my campaign.
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Okay. Then over here on your business, I can't believe that we're just about to October. And so we're probably getting near the end of exterior painting, correct? Correct.
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yes sorry a coffee um i saw him at that point with the cold when you start talking you start coughing yeah so this morning when i woke up it was 42 degrees so we're getting close to the end of exterior season we probably have four or five more weeks so now is the time to get that exterior paint in um prior to winter And if you just can't get it done before winter, the one thing I would suggest is walk around your house, look for any bare wood, move things away from near your foundation so you can see, you know, do you have bare wood on your side, on your trim? and at least get some primer on there to cover the bare wood prior to winter so that if we get a lot of snow, your wood's not rotting over the winter and then get your house painted in the spring.
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Okay. And how can people reach you regarding radiant painting and lighting?
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There's so much noise coming at us. Sometimes it is difficult to make sense of it all. How can you sift through the clamor for your attention and get to the truth? The Kim Monson Show is here to help. Kim searches for truth and clarity by examining issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Tune in to the Kim Monson Show each weekday, 6 to 8 a.m. with encores 1 to 2 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m. on KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. The KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa. Play KLZ. Shows can also be found at KimMonson.com, Spotify, and iTunes.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation and support them. It is a great way to say thank you, to honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is my fellow board member at CUT, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, Steve Dorman. Welcome to the show.
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Well, good morning, Kim Monson. How are you today?
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I'm good. How are you doing?
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Very well. Thank you, Mike. Good to be with you and your vast audience.
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Well, it's good to have you as well. And first of all, we want to say thank you. We've got an amazing board, Steve Dorman, and I always like to say thank you. And thank you to you, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner. Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. They remind me, when we're together at our board meetings, it reminds me of what I think the founders were conversing about, is these important ideas about freedom and force and taxes. And it's an amazing group of people, Steve Dorman.
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Well, it is, and I've been fortunate to have been with CUT for several years now. We've grown our numbers, and we're always looking to add people who maybe cannot join us at board meetings but are able to help with a small financial contribution each year, $25 a year, and you become a civic-minded, engaged person, and you can emulate Kim Monson in civic activism.
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Well done on word of the day, Steve Gorman. And our ratings report is at the printers, and we're working through the proofing on that. It is a monumental effort. And again, all volunteers. But we watch out for the taxpayers, first of all. That's everybody. Protecting Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, property rights, and parental rights school choice. Those are the things that we look at. And we took positions on over... 273 pieces of legislation this last legislative session. So join us, support us, become a civic-minded individual and know what's going on. Let's talk a little bit about the two statewide propositions that are going to be on the ballot, Proposition LL and Proposition MM. And they're both related to, and I have this in air quotes, healthy school meals for children. They've got a title in there. Everybody wants our children to have healthy meals. Right, Steve?
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Exactly right. The one thing that if you look at the state of Colorado and where we are today financially, it's not good. And how did we get there? We got there because our families. Legislature has an insatiable desire for more and more money. I have an anecdote that goes back several years. I was at a breakfast meeting and our speaker was the chief operating officer of the Jeffco Public Schools. And so after breakfast, I had the opportunity to just engage this gentleman for a few minutes and I asked him, how much money do you need? And he thought he was being clever. he smiled back at me and said more that was his answer how much do you need more and it's always more and here we are with proposition ll and mm for more of your tax money that's where we are so Go ahead.
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Well, I was going to say, though, what they have done, though, is they have couched it to soak the rich. So anybody making more than $300,000 is who's going to be taxed for that. And they do that by design because people say, well, yeah, let's go ahead and let the rich people pay for that. But ultimately what happens is when they need more is then they're going to be coming back to everybody else at some point. to put their hands into your pocket. And so we just can't fall for this, Steve.
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No, we can't. It's an expansion of government. And every time you expand government, you add more government employees, which is a voting block in and of itself. The more government employees there are, Those are people who are always going to vote for more and more government. So if you'd like, let's get into the nuts and bolts of LL and MM. Okay. Yeah, let's do it. The background goes back a couple of years when voters approved FF, which FF, we had always provided school lunches for students. parents whose kids uh for kids whose parents may have had financial difficulty meeting that obligation so ff just expanded it and said hey let's just buy free lunch for everybody and it cost a hundred million seven hundred thousand dollars that was what we approved in ff well lo and behold we collected 12 million dollars over that and ll says Can we just keep that? We'd kind of like to have that. And so the voters are being asked, can we keep $12 million of your money that we overcollected? Just a side note, since Tabor was enacted in 92, the voters have been presented 40 opportunities to increase taxes. We rejected it 65% of the time. We are just fed up with taxes. The legislators, they don't want to live within our means.
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They just want more.
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More. How much do you need?
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More.
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And more and more. So in addition to keeping that money, they want to expand. FF, from two years ago, created four new bureaucracies. one of which distributes grant money to selected and chosen NGOs, and it also authorizes the state to solicit gifts, grants, and donations. Who could be opposed to gifts? Who's opposed to donations? Well, they go into a fund that nobody is accountable to. It's just...
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So an interested parties that are wanting to push an agenda can now have the force of government and they can put their money into it. And if it's an NGO, they may be getting a tax write-off over there. So it is a web, if you will, Steve Dorman.
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Exactly right, Kim. gifts, grants, and donations, it's like a lot of euphemisms that they come up with that just really sound great. You mentioned a moment ago how great it sounds, healthy lunches. Who's opposed to healthy lunches? There is no limit. They just want more. They'll couch it in any terms they have to. to trick voters into thinking they're doing something good, when in fact they're just... Really funding government. Yeah, you know, death by a thousand pinpricks.
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And then MM is just expanding the program.
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Exactly right. Right. So the two are companion bills. They were both hoisted upon us by House Bill... 1274 from this past year's session.
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So Steve Dorman, our board, several people have stepped up to the plate. And if you have an organization out there that you would like one of the Text me. You can text through the – there's a text number on our website at coloradotaxpayer.org. Or you can text me at my text line, 720-605-0647. But text me, and we will get a speaker scheduled for you, for your organization. And it's hard to believe, Steve, but the election is just right around the corner.
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Our campus does fugit. Time flies.
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It does. So, Steve Dorman, as always, thank you. It's an honor to get to serve on the board with you. You are such a valued member of the board, and your perspective is so important. Thank you.
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Kim, we're very lucky to have you as our leader. Thank you for what you do.
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I am present. It's really an honor to do that. Why don't we explain what Table Topics is just very briefly. In any Toastmasters meeting, any club that you go to, you'll find three distinct parts of that meeting. The first are prepared speeches. These are where people come in. They've been at home working on those speeches, and they're going to communicate that. There's an evaluation portion of the meeting. But there's also what we call table topics. This is where you have one to two minutes to receive a topic. Maybe it's a question. And it's practice speaking extemporaneously, practice speaking off the cuff. That's essentially what we're doing here. And each of our colleagues here are going to be speaking for about two to three minutes. on a topic. Okay. And that topic today, as you mentioned earlier, is the profound concept of God-given rights. And first up, right out of the gate, is one of our Liberty Toastmasters in Denver, one of the members there, and that's Rick Rome. Good morning, Rick.
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Good morning, Marshall, and thank you for that generous introduction. I don't know how generous I should be in terms of my speaking skills. But, you know, we're talking about this notion of the life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, those God-given rights. And in my mind, it's really evolved as I've developed my thoughts through this process of speaking that that's almost like a public policy holy trinity. Every good policy that comes out of government is focused on this notion of protecting life, promoting liberty, and that pursuit of happiness. If it's doing all three, it's good policy. We see a lot of examples where it's only focused on one. Gun laws is a great example where the argument is, hey, if it saves one life, it's worth doing everything. And they consistently forget about the fact that these gun-free zones make people targets. It takes away the capacity for people to make decisions about protecting themselves. And honestly, it becomes almost like a one-legged stool. I mean, you don't see people assaulting a gun show. You see people assaulting churches. You see people assaulting schools going after soft targets. The problem with sitting on a one-legged stool, invariably you end up with a stick in that place that you would normally use to sit. Planned Parenthood's another great example. The whole argument is predicated on this notion that a woman's right to choose. It's my personal liberty. It's my body, my choice. It ignores the fact that it involves the taking of another life. And I have to be honest with you. Every woman I've ever talked to who's gone through that process, they never speak about it in a happy tone. It is always with remorse. It is always with regret. It is always in the context of I did what I felt like I had to do at the time. Another example of a one-legged stool. And let's also keep in mind that Planned Parenthood was hailed and revered by Adolf Hitler at its founding as one of those great programs in eugenics that would help to control less desirable populations. On a final note, when I was looking for the pursuit of happiness, I struggled, and I am still struggling, with an example where the left has promoted the pursuit of happiness as a primary objective in legislation that they're pushing. It's actually a little bit disturbing when I stop to think about it that you cannot find this culture of death that's coming from the Democrat Party as it's evolved to promote happiness amongst its citizenry. It's all about domination. You know, when we talk about great policy, though, We're talking about equal justice under the law. We're talking about truly that idea where life is valued at every stage of life and it should be protected, preserved. It should involve accountability, which is that liberty where we are obligated to take on that responsibility for our own self-preservation and our own happiness and take on that happiness role and truly find joy in a society that lets us be free.
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Rick, well done. Thank you. That's Rick Rome, Liberty Toastmasters Denver.
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Thanks, Rick. Thanks, Bill. Yep, and next up, Kim, is another one of our members in Denver, and that's Fred Clifford. I've been missing Fred for a while. I've been away from a couple of meetings. Hey, good morning, Fred.
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Good morning, Marshall, and good morning, Kim. I'm glad to be with you. I'm really glad that we have God-given rights, and I'm really glad that we have a Constitution that recognizes those rights. And my main point today is that if you lived in a country like Cambodia or Australia where they didn't recognize those rights, you would still have them. So one of those rights mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is liberty. And I want to talk about the three levels of freedom in the Gospel of John, Chapter 8. jesus told told the the people that believed on him he said if you continue my word you are my disciples indeed and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free the first level of freedom i see here is the idea of being a disciple there's different types of disciples There's different types of discipline. You could have a discipline in math or history or losing weight or an exercise program or sticking to a budget. I think many people know that self-discipline is a big key to freedom. Self-discipline is the first level. The next verse, he says, if you continue in my word, you're my disciples indeed, and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. This is a higher level of freedom. My dietary discipline or my financial discipline are profitable in some categories, but in Timothy it says that godliness is profitable unto all things. Wow, that's much better than excelling in a particular sport or having a doctorate level of expertise. The discipline of continuing in his word is important. is a key to godliness, which is profitable in every way. And then a little bit further down it says, if the Son, therefore, shall make you free, you should be free indeed. Now, no amount of self-discipline will make me free indeed the way Jesus Christ makes me free indeed. No matter how much I try to be self-disciplined, I just don't get there. And I know without a doubt that I needed a Savior. So that's a higher level of freedom. If you don't think you need a savior, you haven't figured it out yet. And this also reminds me of Benjamin Franklin. He listed the virtues he wanted, and he tried to keep track of his progress, and he knew he improved in some areas, but in other areas he just simply concluded that he was incorrigible. No matter what I feel like or what it looks like, I know that I'm not incorrigible because Philippians says that I can't do all things through Christ who strengthens me. So that's a third level of freedom there, and that's the best level. And that we have no matter what government we're under.
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Well done, Fred. Thank you so much. That's Fred Clifford with Liberty Toastmasters Denver.
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That was Fred. And next up on our list is Greg Morrissey. Greg is one of our members in Longmont. Hey, good morning, Greg.
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Good morning, Marshall. How are you doing this morning?
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm doing well. It's going to be a beautiful morning.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, it is. It's always a beautiful morning. This is a great topic to talk about. And the person who was just speaking before me covered a lot of stuff I wanted to say. the reason they came over to this country was to have that god-given right and for you to grow and be the best that you can be and not be under some some kind of weird control system where they think you should be this you think you should be doing that here you have the freedom to get up get out be an example for jesus christ and god's kingdom and do the best you can be people look around you they want to see They have, unfortunately, gone through the press and everything. They have this, how the press is turning their view away from it. People like to turn their view back to it, back to what the Constitution, the Bill of Rights was all about, was that the reason America got so big as it did. And you look at the, there's a book I just finished reading about this lady who was in China and what she went through and what she came to the U.S. and what she achieved. I think that should be a great read for everyone. and understand why this should be kept one nation under God. Keep that freedom. Don't sit back and do anything. Get off your butt and do your best. Preserve it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Greg Morrissey, I love your commentary. Awesome. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 12 :
You're welcome. Thank you.
SPEAKER 17 :
An American by choice, as you like to say, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, Greg's great. All right, another member out of Longmont. Actually, the president of our club in Longmont is Kathy Russell. Hi, Kathy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, Marshall. How are you doing?
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm doing well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning. Good morning. Hey, Kim. Yeah, I love this topic because it relates to the pursuit of happiness and happiness As some of the Toastmasters know, I am a scientist, and so I see everything through science. And one idea is this idea of dopamine that you've probably heard in the popular media that the pursuit of happiness in some ways is the pursuit of dopamine. And dopamine is what makes us feel good when we achieve a goal. But dopamine has another thing, and this relates back to the pursuit of happiness and why it's so important for our country, in that it creates knowledge. When you get something that's better than you expected, it creates a new neural pathway. And what it's really doing is helping you learn. And it's helping you. And then as people learn, they become better creators. And this, to me, is an unexpected, unintended consequence of the pursuit of happiness in that it has helped make our country one of the smartest, wisest, and, importantly, most creative countries. And I think it's so interesting that, you know, we are created in the image of the creator and our invitation is to be fruitful. In other words, to create value for our fellow, for our neighbors, for our fellow humans. And so that's my take on why the pursuit of happiness is just so absolutely essential. It doesn't just feel good, but it helps us do good. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, Kathy Russell, I so appreciate your perspective on this. And you send something over regarding some of the things that you're writing. And where can people find where you're writing all these different articles?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay. Thank you. Yeah, I'm working on a book called Evolution's Arc. And it's about the story of creativity. So it's just looking at using the latest science to look at how we evolved over time. And so you can find that at www.evolutionsarch.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then also your website for your essays and things that you're writing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, then I have another... That's a website related to all things freedom in Boulder, and that's freeboulder.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
People need to check that out, freeboulder.com. Kathy Russell, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, thank you so much, Kim.
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We are doing table topics, and today's topic is the profound concept of God-given rights. And to bring us home on this is going to be Christy Whaley. Christy is one of our Denver members. Good morning, Christy. What are your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning. Well, my thoughts are And it's hard coming after all those great people. I just read a book called Dopamine Nation, which would be fun to talk to Kathy about. But at any rate, I've come to think about our unalienable rights from God as blessings from God. Of course, the first one is life, and from that flows, with God's blessing, the liberty to pursue our happiness. And if you have any questions about how you should go about that, he's also provided the acronym as BIBLE. It stands for Basic Construction Before Leaving Earth. I've never heard that, Christy. You have or haven't? Well, anyway, so this brings me to Charlie Kirk. I'm so glad we're still talking about him and hope we'll be talking about him for a long time. And one of the freedoms that he exercised brilliantly, eloquently, with clarity, and he was so effective, and that's why he was such a threat, was the freedom of speech. And, of course, somebody had to decide that rather than converse with him they would risk the consequences of possibly the death penalty by taking him out. And if only I could emulate Charlie Kirk. If I could even become his equal, that would be something. He's quite a role model for us all. And I know, you know, everyone knows he was a devout Christian. And I like to think that one of his favorite verses, which has to do with speaking, is my favorite verse. One of my favorite verses. And it's Psalm 1914. Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer.
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Wow. Wow. And I think that's about it. Christy, it's so good to have you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Have a good day. Bye-bye. Thank you. So Marshall, this is a profound concept of God-given rights. What's your thoughts about it?
SPEAKER 17 :
It is a profound concept. I wanted to reflect on some of the things that various members called in about. You know, Christy brought up inalienable rights. That's a really special word that I like to kind of help define. You have to look at what that definition was back in the day when they wrote that. Alienable was considered anything that can be separated. It's separable or it can be transferred. So an alienable right is something that can be separated from the human, from the person. Therefore, an unalienable right is something that cannot be separated. Think of alienable as, you know, I can delegate it, I can give you something. Unalienable, it doesn't matter what you try to do, can't be separated by the individual. It doesn't matter what you try to do. That right is still going to be attached to that person. And Fred brought up a great point. He said it doesn't matter what country you go in. It doesn't matter what laws they have. You still have those rights. A government has the ability to deny rights, to usurp rights, to violate those rights. It doesn't mean that you don't have them, though. It is attached to your person. It is unalienable. And I also want to say this, you know, By recognizing these rights which come from God, this is a very new thing in history. It's not something that governments have done across time. In fact, many governments have had long histories of violating rights. This is something, it's a new concept that we brought in with our founding of recognizing individual rights, God-given rights, whatever you want to call it. By doing this, I think that it gives Americans a different mentality. It gives us a different ethos. And it allows us then to believe that we have the freedom to go and be successful and to be creators. Kathy mentioned the pursuit of happiness and being creators. I think it really makes us a more vibrant society by recognizing that we do have these God-given rights.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and these rights are really under attack at this particular point in time by these PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want to control our lives and take our money.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's right. And, by the way, can I take a risk at making some people's ears bleed here? Okay. I know that we're saying that today's topic is about God-given rights. I heard a replay of Charlie Kirk being interviewed by Glenn Beck from 2020. And Charlie Kirk was talking about atheists at the time. And he had the term evangelical atheists, right? So this is somebody who wants you to know just how much that they don't believe in God. As soon as I heard that, I thought, gosh, that kind of makes me a laissez-faire Christian. you know, to me it doesn't matter what you believe, why you believe it. Just don't put your beliefs on me. Don't tell me that I'm not a good Christian because I don't believe a certain thing. And so if we're having these conversations with somebody else about God-given rights, What if we're speaking with an atheist? Do I first have to beat them over the head and say, no, there is a God, and that's why we have these rights? Or is it fine to say that our rights come from the mere fact that we are human? They come from our humanity. You know, Dr. Kranwitter has many good lectures. I'm sure you've heard a few about where our natural rights come from. And so, you know, in all candor, I don't get wrapped around the axle. If somebody says, well, they're natural rights because we are human or they come from God.
SPEAKER 05 :
Their life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And, you know, the thing here is they do not come from government.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's a key point. And there is a reason, though, here in the Declaration, it says that we are endowed by our Creator with certain and inalienable rights. And among these are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. That is the place that we can come to agree upon. Those are foundational principles. Marshall, are you going to be able to stay for the next hour?
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm sticking around.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Our quote for the end of the show is from Ralph Waldo Emerson. He said, Don't be pushed by your problems. Be led by your dreams. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You are not alone, my friends. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda. and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Producer Joe, I know it's always you need an extra hand when we have Liberty Toastmasters Table Topics Day, but you did well. Thank you. Thank you, Kim. It's my pleasure. It's fun to do sometimes. It is. It's a lot of fun, but it's a lot of moving parts. And speaking of Liberty Toastmasters, in studio with me is my friend Marshall Dawson. He is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. Great to have you, and thanks for staying for hour number two.
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Thanks, Kim. I'm looking forward to this and appreciate the opportunity of being here. In the first hour, we sort of ran out of time, but I did want to say where to find Toastmasters. You can go to toastmasters.org, and if you want to find a club, there's a link for it. It's called Find a Club.
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That's pretty convenient.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And, you know, you can search by geography. Look for Liberty Toastmasters. There's one in Longmont and there's one in Denver. The one in Longmont meets on the second and the fourth Saturday. So that will be this Saturday. We'd love to see you there. In Denver, we meet on the first and the third Saturdays. Both clubs meet at 10 a.m. And you can also send messages to the club and give us a heads up if you're going to be there. But we'd love to have visitors.
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Liberty Toastmasters, co-founded by Brad Beck, and I've said to Brad that he really helped me, well, the founders of Liberty Toastmasters, to get my voice back. I had crashed and burned in front of about a thousand people, and I'd lost all my confidence. And Liberty Toastmasters has been monumental in helping me get my voice back. And It's good for everyday life in just communicating with your friends and your family and your colleagues. But as we are engaged in this battle of ideas, we have a responsibility to be communicators in the spirit of Charlie Kirk and every person. really should add in Liberty Toastmasters into their repertoire. And what's astonishing to me sometimes is people, good people, they want to run for office, but they haven't really taken the time to hone their communication skills. And Liberty Toastmasters is very affordable, and it's something that I would highly recommend.
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Yeah, you raise a couple of good points. Toastmasters has a reputation for being known for helping you with oral communication, public speaking. And we get so many people who will say, well, you know, I don't want to be a public speaker, so I have no need for Toastmasters. But it does help with so much more. It helps you with listening. It helps you with crafting your arguments that you're going to make in a conversation. It can help you with leadership. So if you're in a role where you're a leader, maybe it's in your church, in your job, it could be something in your community, you're going to gain skills at Toastmasters that will help you excel in that arena.
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Absolutely. And again, how can people find it?
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Toastmasters.org is the easiest way. And look for Find a Club. And it doesn't matter where you're listening to this from. I have family listening to this in Kentucky right now. We have Toastmasters Clubs in Kentucky, believe it or not. We actually know how to talk in Kentucky. Some people would say that we don't. But punch in there, your location, Find a Club. Again, we have one in Denver, one in Longmont. So find one that's close to you.
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And we'd love to have you. And we'd love to have guests as well. In the spirit of Toastmasters, always trying to grow, we always have a word of the day. So I thought, I'm going to incorporate that into the show. The word of the day today is emulate. And Christy did a great job. And if you didn't hear our number one, that'll rebroadcast today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. But emulate is E-M-U-L-A-T-E. Thank you, Charisse, for your suggestion. And it could be to imitate in an effort to equal or surpass. Number two, to rival with some degree of success. Or number three, to imitate the functions of another computer system by means of software. And you are a computer engineer, right? Yes. Okay. And you said you've been working with emulators.
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Yeah, that's right. I guess I should clarify. The people now who work for me are the people who do the real work. Okay. Yeah, that's right. We've been using emulators for a long, long time in the computer business.
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Okay, and I never realized that, so we learn something every day, which is important. Our quote of the day was from Ralph Waldo Emerson, born in 1803, died in 1882. He was an American essayist, lecturer, philosopher, minister, abolitionist, and poet. He said this, "'When the eyes say one thing and the tongue another, "'a practiced man relies on the language of the first.'" And that's really important. Actions speak louder than words.
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I think we can relate that to Toastmasters as well, and I'll drop it after this. But we also practice body language in Toastmasters. You can always sense something is just a little bit off if what the words that somebody is saying is different than what their body is conveying or what their eyes are conveying. We pick up so many cues from those subtle movements, more so than you would think, more than just the words that are coming out of somebody's mouth. I love this quote for today, Kim.
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Well, I thought it was a great one, and particularly when we're talking about politics. Many times people say one thing, but they're doing something different. On the line with us is Karen Levine. She is a wonderful friend. We've known each other for a long time. And she's also an award-winning realtor with Remax Alliance. Karen Levine, welcome. Thank you. Good morning, Kim. And there is opportunity. Lauren Levy talked about the fall buying season in the market right now. So what's going on?
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It was a fun first hour, and I encourage people to go and listen to the replay if they happen to miss it. We talked about some good things.
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Absolutely. And someone that understands this profound concept of God-given rights and writes extensively, he's a senior fellow at Discovery Institute, is Scott Powell. He's on the line. Scott, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim. Great to be with you.
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And you just published on Constitution Day, September 17th, a piece that people can find at American Thinker. And it's Constitution Day. If its light goes out, darkness and oppression are sure to follow. And you're spot on. The Constitution was put in place so that we would have order in our society. And it's really been under attack, Scott Powell.
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uh... most certainly has been uh... a lot of and but a lot of people don't the under appreciate how fortunate uh... we are as americans uh... you know prior to the constant declaration of independence in the constitution basically new world lived in what we could call political darkness that is to say that government always were in control of the people that people really didn't have true freedom uh... because that's the way that's the way history shows us a government's ruled and people uh... were subordinate to the government now seventeen seventy six uh... the declaration of independence basically asserted uh... that the people are to be free to free to pursue their lives and that government is government should protect those rights. In other words, the people would be sovereign and the government would be subordinate, if you will, because its main job was to protect the rights of the people. And these were unalienable rights. And that was also unique in all of human history, that no other people asserted that they had unalienable rights that came from God. There's no higher authority than God, so God's authority puts everything else below. So when the people say that they have unalienable rights, then they are placing themselves above the government. That the government has to protect the unalienable rights of the people, and that was... The spirit and the language of the Declaration of Independence, and of course the Constitution, which came later, you know, just to refresh people's memory of time and history, it was 1776 that the Declaration of Independence was written and proclaimed to the world, really. That was already one year into the War of Independence. The War of Independence really started in 1775 in Boston. And in 1776... Washington had marched his troops from Boston down to defend New York. And it was at that time that the Continental Congress was meeting in Philadelphia, and they established a committee to write the Declaration. It was headed by Jefferson, of course. And so... And so it was that the Declaration came in 1776. The War of Independence lasted six full years. And finally, in Yorktown in 1781, the continental army under Washington combined with the French forces under Rochambeau and the French Navy, which was off Yorktown, had a decisive defeat of the British. It was at that point that the British decided to surrender, that is to say, not to proceed to fight the independence of the colonies, that they would be free. And that was established a couple of years later in the Treaty of Paris. So But after 1781, the United States was still living under the Articles of Confederation, which was a very weak governing document. And all kinds of problems developed with the colonies. And though they were free, they had all kinds of problems. They had no army, so they couldn't protect their borders from the French and the Spanish. And so it was that it was decided we need to establish a new government. And it was Madison who had the vision for doing that. And so in 1787, the Constitutional Convention was called and convened in Philadelphia in May of 1787. Yes, I think that is correct. Yep. A lot of dates there. So it was six full years after... after the British surrendered, that we finally got the Constitution established. But we look at these two documents kind of together because the Constitution really codified, formed a government around the ideas that were established by the Declaration of Independence, which was that the people were sovereign and that the government should serve the people and protect the people's unalienable rights. That's so powerful. That never existed in all of human history. Think about that. It makes our country truly the city on a hill, if you will. And Americans forget that. They don't realize how blessed we are to have, to be born in a country that was really providential in all of human history and establishing a godly government that would put the people's rights first and protect those rights. And we strayed so far from that that, of course, that's why we're all in all this trouble now, really, because we're not honoring really the fundamentals of the Constitution.
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Well, the founders had no idea what would happen if everyday individuals had these rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Well, what happened was America happened. There's resources on other continents in other countries, but it was this profound concept of of unalienable rights that created what we have now, which is everyday people thriving and flourishing. But Scott, I am concerned if we do not reclaim these foundational principles, we are living on the fumes of freedom. And it was so powerful because it was, well, next year will be 250 years of the Declaration of Independence. If we don't, in our day, in our time right now, stand up like the founders did and reclaim these foundational principles, we will tell our children that we were living on the fumes of freedom and we did not protect that to pass that on to them. Scott Powell.
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You're absolutely right. Very well said, Kim. I couldn't say it better. And so all the listeners out there, keep listening to Kim Monson. But on this theme alone, this is the most important thing for Americans to understand, that we have to take our government back. And so it is that we actually are very fortunate in that I'll just simply say it. God raised up a man, Donald Trump, for a time such as this. He's not a perfect man. No one is. But he has the courage. He has the conviction. He's a great believer in our Constitution and in our Declaration. He really believes in the people. That's why he's very popular. That's why he's really flipped the whole political culture of America before Trump came. You know, the Republicans were thought to be the party of the... Country club. Yeah, the country club, the wealthier people. And the Democrats were the party of the working class. Well, guess what? Donald Trump is now the man of the people, and the Democrat Party is really the party of the elites, particularly the technology elites, the media elites, the medical, pharmaceutical, industrial complex elites. Right. So it's fascinating to see this, and that's why we have to recognize that God is at work in a way that we never could have foreseen 10 years, 15 years ago. We were in trouble then. We've really been in trouble since the turn of the century, and that is the turn of the 19th century to the 20th century with Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson who followed. The country really changed because We turned to creating new government agencies that would take power away from Congress. I mean, Congress was actually probably glad to get work off their desk and put it in the hands of these agencies. But these agencies have grown and grown. They multiplied very rapidly under FDR. And then there was no stopping them in modern times. You know, in 1970, the Environmental Protection Agency was created. In 1977, the Department of Education was created. And look at what has happened. I mean, let's just look at education alone.
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Our kids, well over half, sometimes different school districts here in Colorado, it might be 75% of the kids cannot read and write and do arithmetic at grade level.
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And that's unthinkable. I mean, before the Department of Education was established. Education was actually really fairly good in America. We ranked probably in the top half dozen of countries in the world, and now we rank at the very bottom. And that is because of this transformation and corruption of our system. I mean, the Department of Education and the unions that run our public school education are utterly corrupt. And unfortunately, it's very hard once these agencies have power and it's, you know, it's it's. There's no accountability to that power. You would think it would be accountable to Congress, but Congress sort of vested, gave the authority to these agencies to run things as they saw fit.
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Well, they abdicated their responsibility. They did. Because they didn't want to have to go back to the voters and face the voters and be responsible for those decisions. And so they offloaded that to these bureaucracies, and now we're where we are at today. Scott Powell, let's keep that as a cliffhanger. We have Scott Powell, senior fellow at Discovery Institute on the line with us. And these important discussions happen because of our sponsors. And there is a reason why the Second Amendment is in the Bill of Rights. And the second syndicate, Lisa Garcia. Oops. Oh. Never mind. Thank you, Joe. He switched things up on me. And it is Radiant Painting and Lighting. We had Karen Gorday on the show in hour number one. And she is actually stepping up and running for Lakewood City Council.
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Sure is. And I tried to make a point in the first hour about this grand experiment and being one of the first opportunities that humankind had where we recognized individual rights and based our government around that. And a lot of the flourishing that we have as a result of that. I was glad to hear Scott Powell prove me right in what he was saying and elaborate on that. You know, it's kind of old news at this point, but several weeks ago, in case you missed it, Tim Kaine, who was very nearly our vice president and was almost elected in 2016,
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And he's a senator.
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Still a sitting senator. You know, said something in a committee meeting that was just jarring. I mean, it was abhorrent. And he compared people who believe that our rights come from our creator. He compared that to the Iranian regime. And he said, you know, people like that, they believe that they understand that natural rights come from the creator. And he also said, so the statement that our rights do not come from our laws or our government is extremely troubling. So the point that occurs to me is there are not simply people who don't get it, but there are people trying to deny it and want to use that as a power grab to take over aspects of our government and rule our lives as opposed to being a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
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Well, and Scott Powell, senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, it was jarring when Senator Tim Kaine, who had been a candidate for vice president, said that our rights come from government. What's your thoughts?
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Oh, I fully agree. I mean, we are in a struggle between good and evil. And goodness lies on God's side. And it was God who really... inspired and shaped the founding of this country. The founding fathers were 95% Christians, and they had a vision for freedom. And that is the world in which God wants us to live. God created us uniquely. Each one of us is unique and different than all other people. No one is like any one of us. And that means that each person has... A different orientation and the person's creativity and what they will do with their lives is unique and different. And that's very, very powerful, and it's the reason why America flourished so much, because the people were free to pursue their dreams, to be creative. And ultimately, creativity in the marketplace means that we have to serve other people's needs. So really, our whole system is oriented around Christian principles without people even knowing it. You can't be selfish and really be successful as a business person. You've got to cater to the people you're serving because they're the ones who are your customers. So in any case... We've sort of, you know, we've driven God out of our culture, and we're reaping the consequences. You know, if we had a spiritually enlightened constitutional America, think, government would be a good steward of taxpayer resources today. and avoid debt burden on future generations. Unelected government agencies would all be downsized and be stripped of their ability to make regulatory law, which is the sole responsibility of the legislature, as you stated, Kim. Agencies that could not be reformed and deliver for the American people, like the Department of Education, Homeland Security, the FBI, The CIA, you know, would be entirely restructured and refocused.
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Well, and that's what Trump is trying to do. Right, Scott? Yeah.
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And Pete Hicks has done a wonderful job in reshaping the military, you know, making the militaries into an armed services with a spree to core military. and an unmatched excellence in training to fight and win wars. And I believe, is it official now that it's no longer the Department of Defense, it's the Department of War?
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Is that true? I'm not sure yet, but I know that they're working on that. It is, we're in remarkable times. We are.
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We are. It's very exciting. And I think that we're seeing things breaking our way in more and more ways. We all want it to happen more rapidly. But, you know, we also know that law, you know, justice under law can take time. I think these grand juries are making progress. Their proceeds are secret, so we don't know. But I really do think we're going to see indictments and we're going to see trials and we're going to see jail time for people who betrayed the United States. Treason is a tough thing to prove. So I think they're smart to go under, you know, with charges such as seditious conspiracy, because that's easier to prove in court. And it really has the same weight, if you will. seditious conspiracy is pretty ominous. And it also implies that there's a cabal of people doing it. Conspiracy involves more than one person. And we know that under Obama, there was a cabal that conspired to undermine Donald Trump. First of all, they didn't want him elected. So they had this crossfire hurricane campaign. But when he did get elected in 2016, they set about undermining his administration. And that's just a fundamental violation of our Constitution, period.
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Well, it really is. And regarding Trump and his policies, I really want to have him stay within the confines of the Constitution as well. Because we may like what he's doing, but we want to make sure that it's constitutional because at some point in time, there will be somebody in office that we may be frustrated with, and we want to make sure that always they would be confined by the Constitution. So it has to be the same for everybody, Scott Powell.
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Oh, I agree. And I think... I mean, if the violence in cities continues, I think, you know, a declaration of martial law in cities would be constitutional and might be necessary. Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that, but it's already come to that in some ways in various cities. And it is really the strategy of the left. I mean, that's why that's why it's so important to, you know, to follow the money and find out who is funding, you know, the Antifa and the other operations that are that have a concerted. They're making concerted effort to basically bring America down.
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Right. And as you mentioned this, right at the beginning of the Constitution, it says, we the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility. So I think it – I don't want to have martial law either.
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I don't either, but – If it means saving our cities, we can't have destruction of our cities happen again like we did. you know, after the George Floyd riots in Minneapolis.
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Well, the thing about that, though, is they were equal in the fact that they destroyed businesses, whether or not you were black, white, gay, whatever. They destroyed everybody's businesses. Scott Powell, we've got a minute left. It always goes so quickly when you're on. First of all, people can find you at American Thinker, and you're published at a variety of places, right? Yes.
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Yes, I write a lot for American Thinker, Town Hall, The Federalist. I'm not very good at promoting myself.
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Oh, and we have to mention your book, and that is Rediscovering America. What the national holidays tell us about who we are. I normally have that in my mind. So what's the exact title on that?
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Well, yeah, it's Rediscovering America. Just remember that, Scott S. Powell. But it is really... Probably. It's a very succinct book. It's easy to read. You know, you can read a chapter by chapter because each chapter is a standalone chapter. But it describes all the key transitional periods in America. And, you know, what... What happened with God's hand in America? And God's hand in America was really there right up through the Civil Rights Movement, which, of course, would be celebrated by Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King Day, because God was really very much part of our culture. But from the 60s on, we've really driven God out of our culture, and we've reaped the whirlwind. We've reaped the consequences of So I see, you know, clearly with the tragic death of Charlie Kirk, there has been, you know, he's now become a martyr. And there's a spiritual revival going on in America that is really quite amazing. It really is. There's a lot to, you know, we never want to second guess how God is working. But I believe that God is at work in our country in ways that we haven't seen in years. And we all should want to be part of that and bring other people into the light.
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Absolutely. And that book is Rediscovering America, How the National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are. Scott Powell, as always, thank you. Have a great day.
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Thank you, Kim.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. A couple of things. I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. Support them. We have the official Marine Memorial right here in Golden, Colorado. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then the other nonprofit that I highlight on a regular basis is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And then the other nonprofit is the Center for American Values, And they're nonpartisan and they're nonpolitical. They're focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. In studio with me is my friend Marshall Dawson. He is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver.
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Good morning, Kim. It's a beautiful day in Colorado and such a pleasure to be here with you.
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It's always great to have you. And on the line with us is two women who are running for Cherry Creek School Board. And Gammy had just texted me and said that action is so important. And these school board races, Marshall, are so, so important. And Cherry Creek, I remember people used to want to buy a house in the Cherry Creek School District because it was so well respected. They're going to be 75 years old this year. But things are going in the wrong direction. Their academic achievement scores, less than 50% of the students are meeting grade level standards. And only 44% of third graders are reading at grade level. And that's really important to be able to read by third grade. It's an indicator of success in life. And enrollment is down 4,500 students. And at the per pupil reimbursement of $10,000 per student, that's $45 million to the district. And they've increased spending from 2023 to 2024. I don't know if this is possible by over $100 million. We're going to have to ask them about that. So on the line with us is Amanda Thayer. Amanda, welcome to the show. Hi, Kim. Thank you so much for having me today. And also running for Cherry Creek School Board is Tatiana Sturm. Tatiana, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Thanks for having me on. So, Amanda, I'm going to go to you first. These things that I just mentioned are very troubling, Amanda, and they need to be turned around. And you want to be focused on doing so, yes? Yes.
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Yes, as a teacher and a mother and having two children go through the Cherry Creek school system, improving our student achievement is one of my top priorities. And you touched on it. Right now, less than 50% of Cherry Creek students are reading at grade level, according to the latest CMAS scores. And, you know, you also mentioned, you know, research shows that students who struggle with reading often lose confidence. They face higher risks of anxiety and depression. And, you know, they're not wanting to go to school, which we're seeing, you know, Cherry Creek has a... chronic absenteeism of about 25%. So when that happens, our kids are less likely to engage and keep up. Those gaps get wider and wider in their literacy as they go on in their education career.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and Amanda, I saw a headline when we're talking about student achievement that Cherry Creek School District is getting rid of the valedictorian designation.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. In fact, they've already gotten rid of it. So we've we've lowered that standard of excellence and children, students don't have the opportunity to, you know, hit that that excellence bar, you know, work really hard, have that that merit that they can work towards. It's really sad.
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Wow. Tatiana Sturm, tell us a little bit about you and why you are running for Cherry Creek School Board.
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So I've been living in the district since 2004. I have two boys myself. One graduated in 23 and I have a freshman in high school. And I am a real estate agent. And over the years, I have helped families, hundreds of families move into this district for the exact same reasons that I did, which was for the schools. And in the last five years or so, I've seen many families pull their kids out of the district, homeschooling, going to private schools. And we've seen we've had families that had moved here originally for the schools moving out of the district. And so in enrollments. is a huge problem in the district. As you mentioned, we're losing funding at a tune of $45 million a year. So enrollment's down about 5%. And one of the things that we really need to look at as well in the district is along with that declining excuse me, enrollment, we've seen administration grow in our district over 16% in the last five years. So we really need to focus on where our money is going in the district, which should be the classrooms.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and this is the result of policies that are implemented by the teachers union. And so the candidates that you're running against, there's a big difference between you and them, correct, Amanda?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, those candidates are backed by the Teachers Union, the Colorado Education Association, and have already received, you know, their financial support and financial backing. In fact, they received that backing before the ballot was even secured of who is running. So we know that their candidates are primed and That's who they want to continue to, you know, push out these policies that are not benefiting our children.
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Well, Tatiana Sturm, as a real estate agent, you realize and I realize that People may say, oh, I don't have kids in the school district, so what does it matter? It matters from a property home value perspective. And so everybody should be stepping forward and looking at this particular district. And so the other side has a lot of money. And I know that it would be very helpful for you and Amanda – to receive some contributions. Anybody in the Cherry Creek School District that lives there should come out and support you guys.
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Absolutely. We are 100% a grassroots campaign. We are out there meeting with parents, meeting with teachers, discussing the issues with them in terms of what's happening in our school district. And it does affect every single taxpayer involved here in the district, whether you have kids or not, because it is tied to our property values. And if we want to ensure that our property values are staying strong, strong schools is definitely an indicator of that. And anybody can donate. Colorado has been in a decline when it comes to our education. And I think as a state, we need to all look at this and get this turned around. So whether or not you're in the district or if you're out of the district, Any donation that you can make to our campaign so we can start making a change here in our schools and across the state would be greatly appreciated. You can go to my site or Amanda's site. My website is Tatiana with the number four at CCSD.com. And Amanda's is Amanda number four, the number four. So it's Amanda4CCSD.com.
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Okay, and then there's also one that you're both on, and that is Experience for Cherry Creek. And I guess I see there that there's a donate button for each of you because people have to contribute to each of you, correct? So we're just about out of time. Amanda Thayer, what's your final thought? And then Tariana Sturm will ask you.
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Yeah, you know, the bottom line is we can win and we can do it with people helping and stepping up. So like Tatiana said, go to our website or you can go to experienceforcherrycreek.com and see both of us there. But we would love your support. We appreciate your support, Kim. And thank you for having us on this morning.
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Well, absolutely. And Tatiana Sturm, your final thought.
SPEAKER 10 :
um cherry creek has a lot of money in our district we just had that bond that passed for 950 million dollars we had 51 million dollars from our taxpayers and 17 million dollars from our state our students are declining in their math and reading proficiencies and we really need to get to the bottom of where all of our tax dollars are going so that we can be transparent in our budget and get this district turned around
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And again, people can get more information regarding that at experienceforcherrycreek.com. That is experienceforcherrycreek.com, and the number four is spelled out. So Amanda Thayer, Tatiana Sturm, I wish you all kinds of good luck. Thank you so much. Thank you. Have a great day. And Marshall Dawson, your final thought.
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Well, I was just wondering as we were listening to those two ladies, they're not competitors. They're in different parts of the district. But I think the voters should probably know that they are not competing against each other. But I don't know if they're still on the line, or Kim, maybe you know. Is Cherry Creek School District, is that voted on with at-large? In other words, will one voter be voting for all the different districts within the district, or do they only vote within the district? Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Quickly, Amanda, that's a good question.
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In this riveting episode, Angie Austin brings in author Dinesh Dhani to delve into the controversial causes of autism as discussed in his new book. Together, they explore the potential link between traumatic birth injuries and autism, uncovering eye-opening insights that challenge conventional beliefs. Listen in for a thought-provoking conversation that bridges the gap between personal experiences and groundbreaking research on a pressing topic that's making headlines today.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hello there, friends. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with The Good News. We are talking about his Winner's Wisdom column, and this time it's education, inspiration, pardon me, education, information, and inspiration. Hey, Jim.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, it's easy for you to say, and it's always great to be with you.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so what are you teaching us this week?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's important to understand that, you know, we get facts, we get stuff in different forms. You know, we go to school for education. I mean, if you get a college degree and, you know, you're there for four years, you walk across, they'll hand you a diploma, and you are now educated. You know things. But you really know a broad base of things. You know, for the most part... college graduates don't know how to specifically go do something. This is to say, if you went and got a job, your first job out of college, they're going to have to train you in what to do. That's an education. And I'm a big fan of education. I'm not being critical at all. I have a scholarship, and then we have the Stovall Center for Entrepreneurship at the university. So I am a big fan of education, but we need to understand what it is. Then you go beyond that to information. And You see this a lot when people go to technical school. They'll go and learn how to do heat and air or do automobile repair. And when they get a job, they pretty much know what to do. They have a lot of information that's in one area. But whether you have education or information, you really can't succeed until you get inspiration. You know, everyone that you ever see that is succeeding in whatever it is they do is They have inspiration. If I know what it is I want to do, and I'm inspired, committed, I am going to go do it, I can find people that are educated. I can find people that are informed. I can find people that know how to do it. I mean, you're talking to me today at my company, the Narrative Television Network. Angie, there is not one person who works here that I could do their job. I don't know how they do what they do, but they do. And so I just have the inspiration to do what we do, and I tell them what we want done. They tell me how are we going to do it. I have the inspiration. They have the education and the information. And it's really, really important to understand what is it we're getting. And the kids at the university, when I teach there, I often tell them, I'm not here to give you the answers. I'm here to help you understand the questions. You'll get the answers. And even if I had the answers for you right here in 2025, by 2028 or 2030, it's going to be obsolete. So you're here to learn how to learn. You're here to assess things and learn where and how to get information and then get inspired to apply that in ways that really make a difference.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I think about some of my friends who are really well educated and, you know, common sense isn't always there. Or, you know, for instance, one of the people that I know that has a master's, and I won't even give too much info, was driving in Los Angeles. And she told me that she got in an accident. Someone had rear-ended her. And then her son said, well... Would you like to hear the whole story? And she's like, I don't think that's necessary. I go, no, I definitely would. And he said, well, she missed her turnoff on the 405 freeway in Los Angeles. You're going down the Sepulveda Pass. You're going down a hill. A lot of people go in 75 miles an hour. And she missed the turnoff, so she put her car in reverse on the freeway, and she got rear-ended. And she said, but just so you know, it was her fault because she rear-ended me. And I'm like, well, if they would have known you were reversing on the freeway, that might have been the one exception to the person rear-ending you being at fault. And so I was like, you have your master's degree. There's been so many incidents over the last 30 years or so that I've known her that I'm like, oh, my gosh, are you serious? You did that? Yeah. I sent her to the store to get whipped cream or whipped topping or something. So whatever it was, she couldn't figure out what it was. Like, is it that thing in the freezer that's in the tub? I'm like, oh, my goodness. How did you get through school and do so well? But you're right. I mean, education is different than knowledge.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. Several years ago, I was speaking in Houston for a business convention. And at the same resort property, NASA was having a convention. So I and my assistant go to the front desk to check in, and there's a guy in front of us. And he's... telling the nice woman there at the counter, I can't find my room. Can you tell me where my room is? And she said, just a minute, I'll get the bellman. And she rings the deal and says, we have another rocket scientist here that can't find his room. And she wasn't being... critical of him but these are some highly educated people i mean these are people that can figure out how to put a guy on the moon and bring him back but they can't find their room at the hotel and i just thought this is amazing so here comes the bellman who you know may have a high school education if that and he makes his living carrying bags for other people but he is leading the the rocket scientist to his room because the guy can't find his room. So one guy is highly educated, and the other is informed. He knows how to do something. He knows where it is. So it's really important that, you know, you get this. I mean, if I have a plumbing problem, I want a plumber that has the information on how to do this. I really don't. If they understand all the principles of aquatics and all the different things that go into it, just fix the pipes here. Just do it. And those are the things we really need to understand. Do we want education? Do we want information? But regardless, you've got to have the inspiration. You've got to... have the passion for what it is you're doing, or else you'll be competing against people that do have the passion. It's hard to compete in something where they care and you don't. You're never going to win in those games.
SPEAKER 06 :
Whenever you do these columns, I know you have a whole list of them. When you get these ideas, where do you put them?
SPEAKER 03 :
They go on a pending list, and on there, there's probably 75 to 100 columns ahead. I just always hear about stuff. And, well, okay, yesterday I heard from one of the professors at the Stonewall Center, and he said, I'm getting ready to go on vacation two weeks, so let's get this done, then I'll talk to you in July. I said, great. And I said, where are you going? He said, well, my kid is doing this national park thing. I said, what does that mean? Well, I didn't know this. Every fourth grader or every 10-year-old in America can go free and take their family to any or all the national parks. It includes admission for you and your whole family, parking, the whole deal. And you've got to be in the fourth grade or 10 years old. And it's an amazing thing. But one of the things that impressed me so much about it, when I was studying it, it was signed into law in 2015 by Barack Obama as a temporary measure. And then in 2019, as it was coming up on five years, Trump said, that's a great idea. And he signs it into law as a permanent thing. So what a great idea. And, you know, Trump and Obama, that I'm not sure they ever agreed on anything, agree on this. And 90 percent of senators voted for it. And it's just an amazing thing. And so as soon as I heard about that, you'll see this in a column in the next three or four months, probably. And so I just always am looking for stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love that. You know, my brother, first of all, that's a great learning experience, a great way for family bonding. And my husband and I joked around about when we retire that we'll get an RV and go to the national parks. But also, Jim, all of the major state fairs to try things like the pork chop on a stick, the fried chicken. Twinkie, the fried Oreo. But every year they've had fried butter. Every year they come up with new things. And, you know, I'm not a big unhealthy eater. But, you know, a bite or two of those things just to see, like, what is this? You know, I'll tell you, though, the pork chop on a stick was one of the most delicious things I've ever had in my life. And I remember my southern uncle was like, Jackie Ray. He's like, Angie, you want to do a pork chop on a stick? And I'm like, I don't know, Uncle Jack. It doesn't sound very healthy. Angie, girl. This is about hell. This is delicious. Mom, mom, get me a new one. What, Jackie Ray? And I'm like, oh, my gosh. I'm like, okay, Uncle Jackie Ray, I'll try the pork chop on a stick. And I'm like, ooh, is it good?
SPEAKER 03 :
I have a theory that you could go to your local landfill and find an old tennis shoe. and fry it with ranch dressing. You chop it up, fry it with ranch dressing. Americans would buy it and eat it. It amazes me. But, yeah, I'm always intrigued with that stuff they do. And I've heard about the fried butter. I don't know how they do that without it melting. That amazes me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I don't know either, and the fried ice cream and all the interesting things they do, but there's this lady, Steve Hartman, who does those really good news stories on CBS. He used to work across town from me, and I met him at the Emmys once, and I just said, I always admired your work. That's a dream job for me to travel around the country and find the best stories, the most inspiring stories, and meet people all over, really, the world, he goes. Okay. So he does this story on this woman. It was a teacher trying to make some extra money in Minnesota at the state fair in the summer. And I may have told you this before because it blew me away. She makes these really delicious cookies. So she started selling chocolate chip cookies by the bucket. And it's a bucket full of chocolate chip cookies. And they have a huge production now to do this. She makes, and I don't remember how much over $100,000 it was or if it's hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I knew it was over $100,000 for the summer or, you know, for the state fair. It's not even a full summer. Yeah. And during that time, they have such a production of cookie makers where there are probably other teachers, right, that she could make more money in that state fair week than she could her entire, you know, teaching year and help out other people as well. And it was, I mean, and I've heard there are people would wait for an hour to get these cookies in line because they were so amazing. I mean, a bucket full of chocolate chip cookie, who wouldn't want that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I was at an event once, and the guy said, oh, you've got to try this. They have fried Oreos. Yes, I've had those. Okay, and I said, well, thank you, but no, I'll pass this on to my colleague. He said, what, are you afraid you won't like it? I said, no, I'm afraid I will. That's the problem right there.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's hilarious. That is so funny.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. All right, so when you – oh, my brother, I wanted to tell you that one. He was a teacher, and speaking of the national parks, tying back to that, he was at Raytheon, and he was making good money. He went to West Point Military Academy. He'd say, oh, you know, four-star general so-and-so was coming through the building, and he waved at him, and he's like, hey, Ted, in the back, and all Ted's coworkers or whatever were like – How do you know that guy? He said, well, we went to school together. So he didn't go the route of becoming the big mucky muck general. He was happy with his job at Raytheon, a big defense contractor, and made good money and had a nice career. But he felt he needed more of a challenge, and he also wanted to travel in the summer. So he quit and he became a teaching assistant for $17 an hour about two years ago. He's never been happier. Well, this year he got a full-time position as an algebra teacher at But right now, he just came through here, and he is in his Mercedes camper van things. He's going to Yosemite. He's going to Crater Lake. He's going to Yellowstone. And so it's just him and his dog, and they're traveling around.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's amazing.
SPEAKER 06 :
because we're having a big family reunion in Northern California, more like a small town in Northern California, kind of inland. And so he's going to camp along the river, and we've got great swimming holes. And, yeah, he's making like nothing, and he's so happy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I would encourage anyone to go to the national parks. And I have a book that will be out next year about a young man and his dog going to a lot of places. But that's a sequel to a Steinbeck novel. But I would recommend anybody do it. And before you go, or if you're not going, at least get Ken Burns' documentary on the national parks. It is an amazing experience because when you think of the foresight – Teddy Roosevelt had 120 years ago. When we were still trying to populate two-thirds of the country, he said, hold it, we need to set aside millions of acres because someday it'll be gone and we'll never get it back. And we have these things because some amazing leaders with some forethought did that. So, you know, just great stuff. But, you know, they're just a tremendous opportunity to go do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you very much, jimstovall.com.
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Hello there. Angie Austin here with the good news. A very timely topic today. Very pleased to welcome an author with us to talk about his new book. His name is Dinesh Dhani, and the book is Autism Causes Unveiled, the Hidden Traumatic Brain Injury at Birth Causing the Autism Epidemic. Welcome, Dinesh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, Angie. Glad to be here.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so give us a little background on you and your book, because I understand that you also are a father of children with autism. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, Angie. So I have two boys. They're now grown up. They're about 18 years old. The first boy and the second boy is 16 years old. And they are both on the autism spectrum. They're fairly lower functioning at this point. And, you know, I've always been told it's the genetics. You know, people have blamed autism on genetics for a while now. And, you know, but then we had nothing on either side of the family. You know, there was nothing hereditary going on on either side. And we were really confused, like most autism parents are, on what was causing our issues. And then... We were very busy, you know, helping the kids, running from between therapies and doctor appointments. Life went on, busy. But then a turning point came when a neurologist had ordered an MRI scan for my second boy. And that's when I discovered what exactly happened to the child, you know, that's causing their disease. In both cases, what had happened was like they had been induced, you know, put through labor induction during pregnancy, you know, during delivery. Yeah. And that, I figured, was the cause of their autism. So let me explain that, right? So we had looked at an MRI scan, you know, the doctor had ordered, the neurologist had ordered an MRI scan. around when the child was like seven years of age. So it was a few years ago. And what we noticed was there was scarring in the white matter of his brain. You know, like there was what was called white matter gliosis in the brain and multiple areas of white matter gliosis. Now, there's only one reason something like that can happen so deep in the brain, and that is trauma during birth. And I did some of my own research on the topic, and I looked at the label of the drug that is used for causing contractions. Is that Pitocin? Yes, and that is Pitocin. So the Pitocin drug, comes with a clear warning on its label that it can cause traumatic brain injury if used in certain contraindicated circumstances. So obviously a lot of births do happen with labor induction these days. and not everybody ends up with autism. What had happened in our case was mom didn't have any contractions, you know, no signs of labor at 40 weeks. And then we were told, you know, labor induction is a safe and natural way of delivering the baby. And so we had agreed to that and, you know, She was not dilating at all. And then the labor had to proceed for a really long time. And what happens is like there were protocols in place in hospitals to stop induction at a certain point and and do a C-section if delivery doesn't happen within a certain amount of time. OK. Right. So it's like four to six hours period. And I've got the full details of it in my book. autism causes and wealth. So I did that research, figured that, you know, it was their traumatic brain injury at birth from prolonged labor induction that was causing their condition. So what had happened is like the neuron tracks in the brain get severed. And you end up with that disconnected brain that is very typical in autism.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's interesting. And then I'm curious, do you have any other children or are these your only two children?
SPEAKER 04 :
These were the only two children. They were both put through labor induction for a really long time. Okay. By the same obstetrician. They were only two years apart.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, if you're just joining us, Dinesh Dhani is talking about his book, Autism Causes Unveiled, about his two sons and the MRI that was done. They were 16 and 18. One MRI was done when one of the children was about seven years. and he is talking about the link he believes between Pitocin inducing the birth and then autism. Since you're kind of an outsider in the medical world being a software engineer, how has your book been met, your research, how has it been met by the professionals? Have you found people who think you're on the right path, or have you had a lot of people disagree with your book and your findings?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, so mostly, you know, almost like 90% of the doctors that I've talked to, you know, if they are a pediatrician, you know, any other speciality, they agree with what I have to say. And I, in fact, have a blurb on the top of my book from Dr. Grady Harp, who's an author and a very... well-known writer as well. So he said this is a book that could bring an end to the autism epidemic if people understand what I'm saying in this.
SPEAKER 06 :
What do you think about everything coming out now? It's rather timely that we're discussing your book when autism is really one of the main news headlines right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Very true, very true, Angie. So Obviously, they have decided to blame it on Tylenol and acetaminophen in general. Unfortunately, that is a very small segment, and that was a lawsuit that was going on in California and got dismissed. So I believe there is, like, very powerful forces out there trying to cover up cover this up because it's a birth injury and birth injury paying out birth injury compensation is expensive so yes so there is powerful forces trying to silence voices like this in fact i am probably the only one out there you know with a book. Actually, I do have a previous book as well from 2021. and this is my second book, which goes into greater detail and depth about, uh, what is really causing the autism epidemic. So, um, and I've had parents reach out, you know, doing that research on the internet. They, they come back and tell me, Hey, you're the only voice out there saying this. Um, you know, but, but, but we totally agree. Right. So.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. In terms of, um, You know, what you hope to accomplish. Obviously, you're trying to help other parents and you were curious about what happened with your your own sons. What do you hope, you know, to come will come out of the, you know, releasing the book and people reading the book? What do you hope to come out of this?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I'm hoping to create awareness about the true cause of the autism epidemic. You know, it started off in 1980, right when Pitocin was launched, you know, became the go-to drug in maternity pavilions across the country and even around the world. And so we just need to be more careful about hospital births at this point. My advice to moms out there is birth doesn't always have to be a medical event. If you're having a healthy pregnancy, no complications whatsoever, going the midwife route is might also be an option that you might want to consider. And that's one advice I have for moms out there that are expecting and wanting to make sure that they don't run into the enormous interventions, the heavily interventionist atmosphere in hospitals. And that's one thing. And of course, we can reserve those hospitals for the more complicated cases. And that's one thing. But then I also believe that understanding the causes will help better cures emerge for the existing impacted population. So the People with autism, you know, if you go on saying that, you know, it is a cause unknown, you know, there's never going to be a cure, you know, a way of recovering these kids either.
SPEAKER 06 :
And how are your sons doing now? You know, they're 18 and 16. They're probably at...
SPEAKER 04 :
you know, five, six-year-old level of maturity, you know. And probably they will probably stay around that level is my expectation. I mean, I'm doing the best I can, you know, going through every medication out there. Yes, yes. But then it's a slow process at this point. And I also... I also have this nonprofit that I have called Autism PI, the Autism Parents Initiative. Oh, neat. And I'm running a retrospective data collection among autism parents. So I request any parents hearing this today to go and, you know, drop some of their data into those easy to fill up forms. What we're doing is like, figuring out all the causes of autism. So it is mostly a birth injury. It can be hypoxic injury. It can be a traumatic injury, like in the case of a dose and abuse. So we just trying to catalog every possible case out there. And I believe, you know, unless we can, we've tried multiple options, unless we can, you know, find victory in court, in this circumstance, right, for we may not be able to bring change. And data is critically important, you know, having that data to back up your claims.
SPEAKER 06 :
And where do people go to enter their information if they'd like to do that for Autism PI?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's autismpi.org, and then I have a data collection tab right there. on that site, you know, and a whole wealth of information in there as well, in addition to the wealth of information in that book, Autism Causes and Wealth. So autismpi.org.
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autismpi.org, and again, the book, Dinesh Dhani's book is Autism Causes Unveiled, The Hidden Traumatic Brain Injury at Birth Causing the Autism Epidemic. Dinesh, thank you so much for joining us, and good luck on your journey to help others.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you so much for having me. You are welcome.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
Join us as we dissect recent stirring political narratives and their impact on public sentiment. From the potent messaging by Matt Walsh to the diverse opinions from an Ivy League setting, Mike and his guests navigate the intricate relationship between policy enforcement and empathy. Explore how today's decisions shape tomorrow's societal landscape as they discuss pressing issues like political violence, media portrayal, and the path towards a balanced discourse.
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I think it's possible. I hope it's possible. And Mike, I come to you and it was just almost exactly 24 hours ago that we're sitting here slinging topics back and forth like Kimmel and you tell me, Oh, what's going on in your neck of the woods? And in the 24 hours since I've tried to find the capacity and the energy to do two things, to have the sort of Christlike outreach to people who can be reached, yet also to fight as Jesus would against evil. And it is outright evil to speak these words that inflame these lunatics. So it's kind of a mixed bag approach. And I wonder what – I listened to so much of your show, which was done so beautifully, so tone perfect. So what's in your head and your heart as we look at this 24 hours down the road?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, good morning. I was talking to my boss, as I often do on my way into work. And he was a guest in front of a bunch of college kids at an Ivy League college yesterday. and a lot of young college kids, and he said there was a resounding recurring theme from the young people in that room, some of whom he described as right of center or even conservative, that said that you older folks, you boomers, don't recognize the optics of families being rounded up, terrified, and shipped back to their originating country. And Phil... acknowledged that these were not like leftist lunatics who were raging against the Trump administration, like so many do. They were saying, we wish there would be more compassion. We wish there would be more understanding of what illegal families, they call them migrants, of course, are experiencing. And, you know, Phil, of course, understands that. On the other hand, to me, as I heard that, and I took that in this morning in preparing to talk to you, I've been thinking a little bit about the comparison of where we are right now domestically to Israel and the Palestinians. For example, how do you have a two-state solution? How do you negotiate when you know that one of the sides wants you dead? You want to survive. You want to be left alone. Please don't kill us. If you try to kill us, we're going to have to defend ourselves, and then we'll have to kill you. That's what we're seeing right now with Gaza. Well, how are we supposed to have compassion for a side that literally wants to kill us? Political violence, Mark, is here. And there are too many on the left who are now accepting and even justifying and even celebrating political violence. On the campus of Georgetown yesterday, you know what, they were posting flyers that said, hey, fascist, catch. That was what Charlie Kirk's killer wrote on the shell casings. Now, they're posting that now on light poles on the college campus of Georgetown that's producing tomorrow's doctors and lawyers and judges and attorneys. So there's a poisoning that's gone on. I have to just give so much credit to one of the most clarifying things I saw last night on social media, Mark. It came from Matt Walsh. Did you see his essay? I don't believe I did. Can I share this with you? It's just three paragraphs. By all means. I think everybody will appreciate it.
SPEAKER 02 :
And this is the gentleman who gave us the wonderful documentary, What is a Woman? Just a wonderful conservative podcaster, writer, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Daily Wire. Daily Wire's Matt Walsh. Imagine that we have a Democrat administration. Now imagine that a right-wing radical shot and killed one of the most influential liberals in the country on live TV. Now imagine that thousands of other conservatives shamelessly celebrated that assassination and called for more of them. Now imagine that in the very same week, another right-winger shot up a country club while shouting MAGA. And another one shot up a news station and left behind a manifesto complaining about liberal bias in the media. Now imagine that a week after all of those attacks, a conservative sniper perched on a rooftop, fired into a Planned Parenthood clinic, killing or injuring multiple people. And imagine that this Planned Parenthood attack was just the latest in a string of them stretching back several months. Is there any doubt, asks Matt Walsh, how the Democrats would respond. Is there any doubt that they would wage a full-scale war on conservatives and have people like me frog-marched in front of the cameras in handcuffs and leg irons? Is there any doubt that they would declare martial law and label all right-wing expression incitement to violence? Is there any doubt that they would be rounding up conservatives by the busload and shipping us to Gitmo? Is there any doubt that they would have Fox News and every other conservative media company shut down and its executives arrested or sued into bankruptcy? Matt says, I'm not even advocating for Republicans to do all the Democrats would do if the roles were reversed. I believe in the rule of law. I know that they would throw the rules out, chuck the Constitution into the wood chipper, and ruthlessly persecute us all if conservatives engaged in the kind of systemic campaign of political terrorism that the left is currently conducting. I don't want anyone to be persecuted. What I do want What we all want is for the Trump administration to do absolutely everything legally in its power to prosecute and punish every leftist responsible for committing, coordinating, funding, or inciting this epidemic of political violence. I want them to actually treat Antifa like the terrorist organization that it is and handle its adherents and affiliates the same way we handle ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Now is the time. Lives hang in the balance. Crush the terrorists. Do it now. What do you think?
SPEAKER 02 :
That's it.
SPEAKER 01 :
Pretty brilliant. That's it. I mean, that's it. We'll be back. There it is. Yeah, there it is.
SPEAKER 02 :
Some things just tie such a magnificent bow around it. That is superb. Can I go back into the portrait you painted of our boss, Phil Boyce, appearing in front of students? Sure. I want to reach out. It's kind of funny. This is perfect, Mike. Thank you so much for that story. Because I've described the people who can be reasoned with and those who cannot. Those who cannot must be beaten into submission in the battlefield of ideas at the ballot box. I'm not talking about literally beating on anybody. But those ideas must be crushed. Now, if you've got a mush-brained 20-year-old at Brown University or Princeton or wherever he was... And the quote you gave me was, Mr. Boyce, you just don't know how it hits us, the optics of watching people round it up. This is when it's time to speak truth with love. You tell that young person. I know how shocking and jarring it must be after generations of a country that does nothing about illegal immigration to watch us actually do something about it. But we're not going to deliver fruit baskets to people who are here illegally as we usher them back to their homeland. We are not going to give back rubs as we respond in the street to people who are illegal. sapping our resources and committing who knows how many heinous crimes on occasion. We're not going to do that. This is what law enforcement looks like. So get used to it. Stop whining about it. Pull your head out. Read the room and recognize that these things are being done so that you, young man or woman, can grow up in a safer and more prosperous country. Fair enough.
SPEAKER 01 :
But let me play devil's advocate because I totally agree with you. I'm not disagreeing with you. But devil's advocate, can we do all of that with a modicum of compassion? What does that look like? That's what I said to Phil. I mean, that's what Phil and I were talking about. I said, what does that mean exactly? I said, I've already heard. In fact, Tracy right now as we speak is working with the attorney general here in Florida. I want to see alligator Alcatraz. As I understand it, it's air-conditioned. There's all kinds of accommodations. There's a mess hall. There's a cafeteria. There's access to computers. They're not in a gulag. They act like they're in the middle of a swamp being eaten by alligators. No, no, they're not. They're in an air-conditioned facility, a migrant detention facility. But, but, but, but. Does it lie with messaging? You know, arguably, and I think it's fair, many people said that Trump would have won 2020, by the way, for a variety of reasons. I know, I know, I know. But Trump would have won in a landslide had he expressed himself a touchy-feely kind of compassion that he, frankly, doesn't really possess. But you've heard that, right? That if he was more compassionate about what the country was going through, if he had more... I don't know, warmth. I don't know what the word is.
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There's a guy I know named Mike Gallagher who every time I kind of say something like that, gee, I wish he dot, dot, dot, if only he dot, dot, dot. There's a guy I know named Mike Gallagher who over the years has told me, stop that fool's errand. What he does, he does in his way. It absolutely rocks. It's enormously popular. He runs the Republican Party. We're better because of it. So stop these crazy thumb-twiddling, navel-gazing exercises where we go, oh, if only he. You were more touchy.
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I know. And he never will be. And you're totally right. And let me tell you what I'm sickened about in having this conversation. It's as if some lunatic in Dallas shooting up an ICE facility should make us say, ooh, maybe we ought to rethink our mass deportation. It's insane. So the terrorists win. So the terrorists win.
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Yes, and he calls for compassion. I'm all about compassion when it's called for and blah, blah, blah. But this whole compassion issue is gaslighting. It's a concoction. It's from the people calling for compassion are the people who just don't have the spine or the brain to absorb what it looks like when American laws are enforced. Maybe.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. You're right. I mean, I know you're right intellectually.
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What other way can I be right?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, you're totally right, but I also wonder about what does it feel like in the heart? What does it feel like to a young, impressionable 18? I know you're right, too. Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. But we can't look away from people who are saying... And here was the argument that Phil kept getting from these kids. And it was at Duke University, for what it's worth. Here's what he was getting from these Duke students. We thought he was just going to round up the real violent illegals. You know, the worst of the worst. Now, I've heard that. Jessica Tarloff says that all the time. By the way... Did you see Greg Gutfeld? I sure did. What's left of her may be on that show tonight or not. I don't know. Oh, my word. Look, that was like you. I got that tone from you last night where after this happened in Dallas, you said, I've had it. I have absolutely had it. This has got to stop. I'm done. But look, we've got to acknowledge political violence now has been normalized by the left.
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Sure has.
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They've normalized it. They killed Charlie. And the question is, and Phil and I even talked about this, does Charlie's assassination, it's definitely a turning point. Does it make things better or does it make things worse? Are they going to do more?
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It might be both at the same time. And that incredible service on Sunday, I think hearts are growing. Following of Christ is growing. Charlie's message is growing. And maybe the reverse side of that, the corresponding effect, the Newtonian physics here, is that on the left, they may get even more panicked. They may realize they're painted even more deeply into a corner. Oh, they're panicked. They may for a time grow even more reckless and violent. Oh, Mark, they're panic. In word and in deed.
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Mark, we got a montage that we got queued up for today's show from MSNBC. You should hear the way those folks are trying to spin Dallas. Well, now, we don't know if anti-ICE really means he's opposed to ICE. It might have been a joke. He might have been kind of toying with us a little bit. Right. Maybe it was gaslighting. Maybe it was MAGA and trying to... And we don't know yet what he really was trying to do. I thought, what? I know. But think about this. You want to talk about optics? How about these optics? This guy hated ice so much that he went to Dallas and he killed one of the illegals that he's trying to protect. Yeah. Yeah, shot into a van and killed and critically wounded. Yeah, it's almost like, that's almost like God saying, you want to see how misguided this is? I'll show you. This is how misguided this is. So, look, and the violence against ICE has been ongoing. This is just culminating.
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And it will not stop. It will not stop.
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Not in the short term. That scares me.
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Well, that's scary.
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I love you, man. I'm glad you exist. No, I'm glad you exist. It's good to get through all this together with you. Do you know what this segment means? I mean, you just set my whole day. Don't you dare take another day off for the rest of the year.
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I have no plans.
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You are stuck. Well, you go when I go, and I'm going soon. Look, I spent all night. I got the new iPhone 17 last night. Oh, man. Oh, my Lord.
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I just got a 16, and already you're showboating me.
SPEAKER 01 :
I got a 17, so mine's bigger than yours. What's so great about that?
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What's so great about that?
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, what's great is spending the hours having to re-enter all the passwords and get all, it never, nothing ever transfers over the right way. They say it does and they lie. They lie. Oh, no, the passwords and all the shortcuts? Oh, I see.
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No, there are some things where I've got to, okay, there have been some things.
SPEAKER 01 :
Some things? That was up until midnight. Oh, my gosh, there's this password and there's that password and why doesn't this blink? And you know what we've got to do?
SPEAKER 02 :
It's a fast phone. It's a cool phone. Tomorrow, Friday, please. I mean, Trump could resign, and we've got to do driverless cabs, okay?
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Oh, Waymo.
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Waymo, Waymo, Waymo.
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Here it comes. Waymo's got to come to Dallas-Fort Worth.
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And you know I'm terrified, and that's half of a bit. I'm half kidding around, but only half. But the thing that might have won me over, are you serious that if you're at point A, point B, trying to get to the airport, Uber might be 80, and the Waymo might be about 15? Exactly. It's cheap because there's no drivers to pay. Kill me. Kill me, robot cab. I am in.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right. Crash me into a wall. I just saved some money.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's it. That's me. You found me. I love you, man.
SPEAKER 01 :
I love you. See you tomorrow.
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That is Mike. He's ready to go. 10 o'clock soon as we're done on 660 AME Answer. For full shows live and on demand, it's the Salem News Channel.
Embark on a journey with Bill Gunderson as he analyzes the recent sell-off and its implications for long-term investors. This episode sheds light on the art of risk management, focusing on capital gains and how to maintain a balanced portfolio in volatile times. Gunderson articulates the significance of recognizing market corrections, appreciating the nuances of stock performance, and the critical role of vigilant portfolio management. With real-time examples and insights, explore how industry titans like Eli Lilly manage to thrive through market ebbs and flows.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Thursday edition, the sell-off edition. Maybe the top was Monday. Who knows? But you do have a pretty hefty profit-taking round in the market today. We're going to talk about that a lot. You might want to listen today. The Dow is down 221 right now after hitting a new high on Monday. That's why I mentioned Monday. Dow down 0.5% right now. The NASDAQ down a little more. It's down 189 right now, which is 84 basis points. The NASDAQ hit a new all-time high on Monday, 22,310 is where it sits today. The S&P, which hit a new high on Monday, is backing off by 0.5%. Right now it's down 38%. $65.99. The biggest winners. They're the most vulnerable, right? I mean, they're the most vulnerable in the market. They're selling off the most here today when you get a round of profit-taking. Or is it just profit-taking? More on that in a bit. The small caps are down 1.3. See, they're the most risk-on asset class of the indexes, and so they're going to go down the most. When you get a risk-off move like we have today in the markets, the 10-year is not helping, remaining stubbornly high at 4.17 after Jerome Powell's continued hawkish remarks. He's right about the valuation of the market. There's no question about that. But he's also way behind the curve on the rate cuts. The 10-year right now, 4.19, Jerome. They've gone up 20 basis points since you did your quarter of a point rate hike is gone. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, a nationwide fee-based only money management firm. And I'm here with Barry Kite. Our chartered financial analyst, our certified financial planner, and as I mentioned, I think on Monday and Tuesday maybe, the title of the newsletter this week is Where's the Top? Now, there's different tops, Barry. There's the ultimate top. I mean, we could go back to March of 2000, and the ultimate top on the NASDAQ was 5,300, and by the time the sell-off was over, it was down 79%. That was a... a top in the bull market.
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There was a top... That was a market restructure.
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Yes, there was a top in 08 when the S&P 500 went down 53%. So there's a top in a bull market, and this bull market is now long in the tooth. It's been going since 2009. It's the longest one, I think, in the history of the market. Here we are in 2025. It's now 16 years into this current bull. By I wrote that article in my newsletter back in March of 2009. I said a new bull market is being born, and I was within a few days of calling that one, and I've made three market calls since then. But I have not ever called a top in the market publicly, although I knew back in 2008 and 2009 there was a top being put in. But the other kind of a top, It's just a time for a correction, right? A secondary correction within a bull market. And we've had several different tops since 2009. For instance, we had a top in 2021, early in 2021, after the sugar high from all the COVID stimulus. And interest rates, the 10-year going down to like 1%, under 1%. Mortgage loans going down to under 3%. It was just unheard of. When the Fed made that pivot and said, we're going to start tightening, that was a top in the market. But it wasn't a top in the bowl, which has been going on since 2009. That continues. We had a secondary sell-off within a 16-year-long bull market that took the market down, I think, about 30, 25 to 30, somewhere in there, Barry, in 2022. NASDAQ was down a little bit more. Yeah, you had NASDAQ down about 35%. Yeah, somewhere in there. Okay. And, of course, the bond market really took it in the shorts. Just go look at the vacant building in Silicon Valley of Silicon Valley Bank, which is no more. And it was interest rate driven.
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It wasn't earnings driven. It wasn't economy driven. Yeah, when you put your charts up there, you don't see a downward earnings year in 2022, for example. It was strictly valuation slash interest rate.
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And if I put up a chart of the market since 2009, you would see that the uptrend has never... curled over into a downtrend it's still intact but we've had several i'm sure you studied that getting your cmt a a secondary move within a primary move okay those are called corrections And, you know, I kind of assume, I'll just give you a little inside baseball. I kind of assume that every day, every time we hit a new high, I usually draw a line there at the top and assume it's the top. And luckily I've been proven wrong. You keep moving that line. Well, yeah. I erase the old one and put in a new one. And I did that on Monday. I assumed that Monday was the top. I don't think we're looking at a bear market top, but we could be looking at a top of this current outsized move that we've made in the market, especially in the AI sector, which is now the most vulnerable. I was talking about all the clues that we have out there, the pieces of evidence that we have to weigh in our minds. i have an orange flag up on the market which is one away from a red flag right and it's quite a ways away from a green flag which we put up in january of 2023 and it's because of valuations that's the biggest issue we're getting these economic reports today they're still good did you see they upped gdp to 3.8 percent Did you see that the trade deficit is narrowing? Did you see that the unemployment claims actually dropped again this week? Did you see that we had a good durable goods order? There's nothing wrong with the economy. We've got a productivity boom, too, which is needed. Yes. But there are tops within these bull markets that, you know, sometimes you want to do, how do I risk manage? Well, through profit taking. If you've got a stock that's doubled or is up, in fact, I sold several yesterday. You saw me sell maybe five that were way up, mostly down in the lower echelons, the smaller cap stocks that had huge gains. That's one form of risk management, is taking some chips off the table and Locking in some profits. Do you know, Barry, we had a client that left us because I created a $700,000 gain for him in 2024 that he was not happy with. Okay, all right. That's the first time. I think I've had two or three others do that.
SPEAKER 01 :
And there was reasons why you had to sell. I mean, in terms of trimming some gain. I mean, 2023 was a pretty bright year.
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Yes. Okay, now the thing is, you can say, I don't want those short-term capital gains, nor do I want those long-term capital gains. Well, that problem can go away if the stock falls back to where you bought it. Do you want to lose those gains just not to pay the tax? That doesn't make any sense. As a risk manager, I have to determine when I think something is over. I have 215 small decisions to make. That's how many stocks that I have to look at that are in our portfolios right now amongst everybody. That includes bonds. That includes things that people have transferred in. That includes legacy positions that people don't want to sell. And it includes the active stocks within our five portfolios right now. So 215 decisions. I just looked through seven or eight before the show began, and my decision was no decision. this looks fine somebody transferred in a lot of Apple it's had a little spark here recently maybe the 17's gonna be a hit they need a hit they haven't had a hit in a long time but you know I said it's fine we don't need to do any then I got to about number six or number seven stock and I know that we have a new client that has a very large position that she's very worried about and doesn't want to lose that gain And I looked at it and I sent a text to Barry. I said, you know, this stock is sitting on important support level. If it cracks, she may want to sell another chunk of stock and take the profit and sell because she has a very large position in one stock. Not everybody has that issue. That's why I have to manage portfolios on a little bit of a custom basis. But at the end of the day, I look at every position and make those 215 decisions on a daily basis. I don't make one decision. I've had people call me and say, Bill, I don't like the way these tariffs are going. Sell everything. And, Barry, we had people like that in March of this year. Of this year. that sold everything because they were worried about the tariffs. That was the absolute worst decision they could have made when that was one of the best buying opportunities of all time back in March of this year. So the market's made up of a bunch of little decisions. Break it down into a manageable task every day, and it's much more easy to accomplish those decisions. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Obviously, I think risk management begins with knowledge of where we're at in the cycle, where we're at in valuations, how much gains we're sitting on, where we're at in the interest rate cycle, what's going on in the world. The more knowledge that you have, the better you can manage risk and recognize when risk comes along that could make things very, very vulnerable. And watching those individual holdings every day. I spend three or four hours a day in quiet time looking at everything I own and making all those individual decisions. And I also look at all the prospective holdings. potential new buys out there well at a time like this too another thing i consider it's what a hedge fund does why should any why should what you hedge all the time the the airlines hedge against uh their business by uh hedging against oil prices that's their biggest cost all right i hedge i say what's the most vulnerable area of the market right now And almost always I come up with the same answer, ARC funds, Kathy Woods. Nothing against Kathy Woods. She is way out there on the frontier, okay? She's way out there on the frontier in the things she owns. And those things can go up really fast. And a lot of times it's her buying that drives those things up. And they can come down very fast. That's the other side of that coin. And you've seen her. She was down 66% in the year 2021 when the Fed went on the March 2022, the forward march in interest rates. So I always look at SARC. SARC is Inverse Cathie Wood's. I think there's a two-to-one inverse now.
SPEAKER 01 :
You held the flagpole for that first one. I remember the message.
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The guys who invented that ETF, which is an inverse ETF, and it trades very heavily because I'm not the only one that says, When the market goes, Kathy goes first.
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Well, it was a good way to judge a risk-off appetite, right? Yes. I mean, in terms of that long-duration trade, and that's what we used it for.
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If you own long-duration stocks and interest rates start to go up, long-duration stocks and long-duration bonds are by far the most vulnerable, okay? So, yes, I bought a little Sark in my trading account. I'm kind of the guinea pig, right? I bought a little bit, I think, last Friday or something like that, just as a guinea pig. Let's see how this thing behaves. And now it's looking more and more attractive. That would be the first place I would go with a little hedge, maybe a 5% hedge against a growth portfolio or whatever. But it's obviously the most vulnerable. Then you get down into the AI sector. There's some hedges against that. AIBD is one. There's some high beta stock, inverse funds. These are hedges, okay? This is a trampoline, a net underneath the tight wire just in case you go through a little bit of a correction. And they can be money-making opportunities also. Okay, well, we're blaming the sell-off. And I'm seeing some buying coming into some of the better stocks right now. That's another thing I can see when I look at individual stocks that I'm considering maybe trimming, okay? i think right now you've got valuation issue there's no question about that and the rate cut uncertainties i mean jerome powell has really rattled the markets i just have to believe that his pride has been hurt his ego has been hurt And, you know, look, it takes a real man to just say, look, I'm not going to even listen to what Trump says or what the others say. I'm going to do my job. But everybody has a little bit of an ego. And I just don't think that he's going to do anything in his remaining months on the job to help the current administration. I think that he's going to say things because he knows. Barry, when he opens his mouth, the markets move big time. And just look, he cuts rates by a quarter of a percent, but by his words, that quarter of a percent, no. Instead, we've had a rise of 20%. So that's been totally offset, his rate cut, by the market, and it's been caused by the words that he said underneath his breath. But he can't say anything underneath his breath. The whole market is listening to what the guy has to say. He's a piece of work, that guy. I'll be glad when he's gone. But I truly believe that down underneath he's saying, I'm not going to do anything to help. You know, this current administration. That's just the way I feel. His pride has been hurt. He got called on the carpet over spending billions of dollars on their new palatial headquarters for the Fed and this and that. Okay. In the meantime, the economy is humming. U.S. Q2 GDP revised higher to 3.8%, which is intensifying the rebound in the economy. U.S. international trades deficit narrows more than expected in August. Well, when you put 15% tariffs on European cars and tariffs on Chinese goods, that's going to narrow the trade deficit. We're not going to buy as many European cars. That's the whole purpose of the tariffs, is to try to narrow that gap. And the car makers in Europe now have a set tariff of 15%. The deal is sealed. And people are going to think twice before they buy a European car. That's what it's meant to do. So that's good news. Durable goods orders, surprise higher in August. They rose by 2.9%. So that's why I say maybe a top is being put in now, but it's a temporary top on this current uptrend in the market. I don't see us turning the corner towards recession at this current point in time. Initial jobless claims dropped for the second week, all the way down to 218,000. Now, he used, Powell used the jobless claims numbers recently and the big revisions downward to jobs as his reason for lowering rates by a quarter of a percent. And now, you know, you're seeing this initial jobless claims and maybe the jobs market isn't as bad and that tilts him back. What's the other side of his equation, Barry? Inflation. And he said, I had to choose between the fear of rising inflation and the fear of dropping jobs to make that decision. And we leaned towards the jobs market. And now we see a number that comes in that's really good. Only 218,000 jobless claims. One other thing that relates to the jobless claims is, What's this H-1B usage going to do? One of the reasons why Trump raised the price to $100,000 for H-1B is because of the layoffs happening in the tech industry. And it's not happening to the H-1B people. It's mostly happening to Americans, right? So I think that will also help the jobs market. Capitol Hill intensifies scrutiny of tech. H-1B amid layoffs. All right? Something else to think about. Why is crypto selling off? We'll be right back.
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Don't like him talking so much. And he won't play what they say to play.
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This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show.
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Boy, time flies when we're having fun, Barry. I mean, I have so much fun. This is one of my favorite things to do all day. I love doing the two hours of research. Before the show, I love doing the show. And then my favorite part of the day is then going in and looking at the investments that we have, that we're responsible for, that we're stewards over, and trying to find better ones or upgrades or when is it time to sell. Do we own the very best in the market right now? Is there something out there that's better? And constantly, I mean, it's a very exciting time. industry to be in because there's always new developments every day is a new day it's a it's a clean slate yeah it never ceases right and of course the down days challenge you know but i'm going to give you a living live example here i'm looking at my holdings which is part of risk management vigilance vigilance we had an office my office was on the 19th floor right at front and broadway in san diego was the AT&T building a landmark building and Dean Witter was there for a long time and I was on the 19th floor of a 20 floor building my office looked out to the coronado islands and down to mexico and out to point loma I could literally smell the fumes of the Navy ships as they came in and out of the harbor. It was really something. I loved it up there. But on my same floor was a Morgan Stanley office. And they had subdivided that office into about 70 little cubicles, I'm going to guess, maybe 50 little cubicles. And, you know, I would arrive at the building in San Diego at about 5 a.m. Market opens at 6.30. Maybe I got there even a little earlier. Did my research, did the show, did the same routine that I do now. And after the show, I would go maybe take a little break, walk over, maybe get something to eat or whatever. And there would be nobody there. Nobody. Just the receptionist, right? Maybe a few office helpers and workers there. Where are the people that are responsible for managing the portfolios? There was nobody there. And that was not like one day a week. It was like that all the time. Maybe they're at Rotary. I don't know. Maybe they're at Kiwanis. I don't know. The Lions Club. Key Club. They're not looking into their computer and watching over things and being vigilant. I do know that because they have their people in a mechanical, robotic machine. one-size-fits-all 50-50 stock bond allocation or 60-40 or 30-70 or whatever the case may be. And they don't need to manage that, okay? If the people call up and say, I'm worried about my stock holdings, they say, well, don't worry. 50% is in the bond market, and that will offset things. And, you know, so it's just... It's a low maintenance way, and they can spend more time selling as opposed to being vigilant and watching over and trying to really maximize performance for their clients. That's just my take. But here's a living example. When the market started to rebound, when I wrote my article on March 8th of this year, The S&P was at 4,800. And I said, I think the tariffs are going to work and the market's going to turn around. And I did that after listening to an interview with Besant, our Treasury Secretary, a brilliant man who knows the markets. He's made a fortune being a hedge fund manager, doing what I do, but only on a much bigger scale than me. And I felt in my gut conviction that what they're, and you have to say, look at the economic reports today. The trade deficit's going down. GDP is picking up. The market hit new all-time high on Monday. Is it working? Well, I'll let you be the judge. But anyways, along about middle of June, we bought Astera Labs, which we've owned before. It's a key AI stock. But we own it in our more aggressive portfolios, right? I mean, it's not in our large cap growth portfolio. It's not in our value fund. It's for people that want to mix in a little bit more aggressive, you know, depending on their risk tolerance and what. So we initially bought it in the emerging growth portfolio. which is a pretty small portfolio, really, overall. But a lot of people maybe have it as one-fourth of their overall portfolio, right? So they're going to end up with some shares in that emerging growth portfolio. And it's done very well this year. It's up 30% year-to-date. But Astera Labs has big gains in it right now, okay? We bought it in June. Then we added it to the Ultra Growth on July the 8th. And Astera Labs is up 118% since then. And it started to look a little rocky. Like, you know, I always draw a top in there. I put in a line. I said, maybe this is the top. That was two weeks ago. And it's corrected a little bit, not a lot, but I always have a line in the sand. That's my other risk management tool. You're sitting on a big game. I would love to make this a long-term capital game, Barry. The difference in the tax rate on a long-term capital gain is 20% federal tax versus whatever your income tax rate is, right? Yeah, which could be very high. It could be 30%. It could be lower than 20%. I mean, some retirees have very low tax rates that they're at right now. So anyway, I would love to have a long-term capital gain. But at the same time, I'm not willing to give up. When you get 115% gain, June, July, August, three months. Three months. I start drawing a line in the sand. If it drops below this line in the sand, I'm going to say thank you. I did that on about three or four yesterday. And that's going to happen in the emerging growth portfolio where you can get moves like that very quickly. And, of course, in an IRA, it doesn't matter. I don't know, half of our portfolios, maybe more than that. Would you say 70% to 80% of our book is in IRAs?
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I'd probably say close to 70%. That's just kind of that natural savings vehicle. Yeah, so it's a moot point.
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If it's in a Roth... So I guess I have to weigh the people that have a taxable account. But number one, I don't want to give up the gain. So yesterday, it looked pretty rocky. And I thought, you know, this might be a good point. That's one of the decisions I made yesterday. I can look pretty good walking away from this thing with about 130% gain in three months. But then I also know that it's a key player. And the reason why it's a little soft right now is when NVIDIA and Jensen Wang made that investment in Intel, which was one block. That happened like two blocks from us, Intel's headquarters, when we were in the Silicon Valley last week. there was thinking that this could hurt Astera Labs, this combination of NVIDIA and Intel. But now I'm seeing buying coming in the stock. I'm seeing it hold the 200 level which many times a big round number like that is a support level and it hasn't violated my line in the sand so not only do I put up here this could be the top there's a line up there a horizontal line and down below a horizontal line this could be the bottom And if it should violate that bottom, right, that's my line in the sand. And I looked at that thing yesterday, and I saw some buying coming into it as it got down close. Today it went barely below my line in the sand, and now it's only down 1.6%. And if you look at a chart that shows the high-low for the day, right, Barry, some charts show the closing price only. Well, my MarketSmith charts are updated live, so I can see the trading for today. I can see the low for the day in the bar. I can see the high for the day in the bar. And I see that this stock is way off of its low. That means that on this dip today, buying came in.
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Yeah, supply and demand. Some demand came in for the stock.
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Now, the day's not over yet, but I moved on to the next stock and said, you know what? I'm going to sit tight for now. Yes, it's hot money. I'm sitting on a big gain, and that's why when the market starts to sell off, it's the hot money stocks. down in those aggressive emerging growth realms of the market. And even Cathie Wood, you can go further. I don't go into the realm that Cathie Wood goes into. She's buying crypto and Bitcoin miners and private companies. I just don't go into that realm. That's the most vulnerable area. And that's why I say Sark is a good hedge when things get a little rocky in the market because her stuff goes first. Crypto is another one. I don't like the way... We don't have any exposure to crypto. But I think crypto would be a big clue as to when we've kind of hit a top here in the market. And it certainly has been very vulnerable. Man, we're down to the last quarter of the show. I had a lot of things to talk about. We're going to have a two-minute drill when we come back. And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. Now, I've looked through about 25, 30 of our holdings so far, Barry, and what I'm seeing is buying coming into every one of them. Buying of the dip. That's another clue. Accumulation, distribution. They're still being accumulated. The distribution. You get these little scary moments like we've had. We hit new highs Monday. This is Thursday. We've had a two-day sell-off. And then, of course, a few hours this morning, and I'm seeing buying. I can see that by looking at the individual stock. I can see much more in the market by looking at individual companies than I can by listening to the headlines on CNBC. Okay, that's just the way it is. Amazon would be another example. I think maybe Amazon, their AWS business is being diluted a little bit with all of this announcement of NVIDIA and OpenAI and them getting into the server, data warehousing, storage. Amazon seems to be... very weak but it has not dipped down we have a line in the sand we own amazon i bought it when i thought it was trading at a pretty decent value believe it or not which it hasn't for a long time so those lines in the sand are very important now the other concept here is every sector in the market and the market itself has good companies well-run cracker jack management that have delivered big returns to investors over the years And it has horrible, I call it leaders and laggards. And generally speaking, it's the 90-10 rule. I mean, 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish because they know what they're doing. And I would say that just from my experience in the market and watching a database of 5,300 stocks, there's usually about 500 or 600 that are superior over the rest. And some are really inferior. Okay, you can take an Eli Lilly, which I think is the superior drug stock in the world today. Even though it's been around 100 years, headquartered in Indianapolis. We talked yesterday about how they're going to start making their drugs upbound down in Houston. They're going to build a plant down there. Houston, we have a problem. Maybe it's a weight problem. America has a weight problem. I know two people, I know much more than two people who have lost weight, but I know two that have lost 80 pounds on the ZEP mount. It would have never happened any other way. And I contend that it's still the biggest health problem that we have in America. And I think if you solve the obesity problem and get it, it just ripples through the health of America. What are these RFK make America healthy again? Well, weight loss would be a big, huge thing there. uh in helping with cardiovascular and helping with the liver and helping with diabetes and helping with uh all kinds of things your joints all kinds of different things eli lilly has put up the numbers for investors over the years we've gone through the numbers many times and most of the other drug stocks pfizer merc Bristol Myers. Let me just give you an example. Okay. I tell people, someone mentions a stock to you. You know, you hear about it. Jim Cramer's talking it up. He's got the CEO on his show. He's interviewing him. The first place I look is the performance of the stock over the last 1, 3, 5, 10 years. It's a pretty good sampling. It's a pretty good indicator of what the stock's going to do in the future. BMY, Bristol-Myers, an investment in Bristol-Myers 10 years ago, just sitting on it, doing nothing and collecting the dividends, has delivered a total return of zero. All right. So what makes you think... You know, I always use the, my wife and I were at the Pomona races in Pomona, California one day, watching the races in the fall. And one of our friends had a horse in the race. So we were actually in the saddling paddock where they saddle up and the jockeys mount them. And we saw a horse running called the Whole Enchilada. And I looked him up in the racing form. He had run 66 times and never won. The trainer was Conrad Riggs, and I don't know that Conrad Riggs had ever won as a trainer. But we just said, why does he think that 67 is going to be the charm and that horse is going to win today, right? Today's the day. He had flies buzzing around him. He looked like he was sleepy. Both the trainer and the horse, by the way, had flies and sleepy. But what makes you think that Bristol-Myers, and yet that's a stock that we see quite often in a big portfolio from a big Wall Street firm. Now, it gets even worse. Over the last three years, you've lost 11% per year. But yet I hear, the reason I bring this up is because somebody upgraded the stock today, and it's in the news, and I always go and look at the, the other one that's in the news today is because they've reported their earnings. And Accenture, Accenture shows up all the time in portfolios that are transferred to us. Look at the track record. The app, that's the truth teller. In 10 seconds you can see, wow, this thing has a terrible track record. Now, sometimes something new comes along. GE did it. They turned the ship around. Can Intel turn the ship around? Boeing has turned the ship around. But more often than not, what you see is what you get. And it's going to continue to give the same mediocre results. And conversely, a company that's put up big results over the years and continues to put up the results, in my opinion, has a higher probability of continuing to put up, no guarantee. of good results, just like a 320 hitter at the plate has a better chance of driving in that run than a 196 hitter at the plate, which we have plenty of on the Padres. But anyways, I'm just teaching a concept there. Okay, well, we're out of time. I am seeing buying coming in. I have 200 more decisions to make today. More than that, I mean, what are we going to have for dinner tonight? That's another one. But anyways, that's how I manage money, and that's how I employ risk management constantly on a daily basis. You want to be in the best stocks to begin with. You want to be diversified amongst those stocks. You want to be in ones that match your risk tolerance. and you want to be vigilant on all of your holdings, or you want to have an advisor or money manager that is vigilant and doing that for you while you're out golfing on the golf course. God bless you. To get a four-week trial, go to my newsletter, GundersonCapital.com. To set up an appointment with us, 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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There is only one way to heaven. Christ said, “I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me” (John 14:6). A delusion of the devil is you can work your way into heaven through human good. This delusion of the devil contends that faith is not enough for salvation, that you have to do something else. The world and the flesh are capable of doing good things that are not compatible with God’s plan. As a Christian, you produce either divine good, production when you are filled with the Holy Spirit, or human good, everything done in carnality. Human good will be judged and burned up at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Human good is never acceptable to God. God provides everything you need to live your spiritual life and produce divine good. A delusion of the devil is that by being good you will get to God and that if we would all be good the world would be a much better place. This is a lie.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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good morning and welcome to the flot line flot f-l-o-t it stands for the forward line of troops it's a military analogy we're talking about building a main line of resistance inside your soul based on god's word 10 unique problem solving devices that can stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside source of stress because you all know adversity is inevitable But you may not know that stress is optional. So God has some unique problem-solving devices, which we call the FLOT line, Forward Line of Troops. And this show deals with those 10 unique problem-solving devices, dealing with rebound, the filling of the Holy Spirit, the faith thrust drill, grace orientation, biblical orientation, personal sense of destiny, personal love for God, impersonal love for all of mankind, sharing the happiness of God. and occupation with Christ. I ran through all 10 of them quickly there. We've taught them consistently on this radio show, and we will teach them again. If you don't understand what they are, write to me, and we'll send you a free book called Christian Problem Solving. Get it in the mail to you, ASAP. It won't cost you a dime, and you can read and study about each one of these problem-solving devices. Our show is about giving you information, not trying to solicit money. We're not trying to hustle you. We're trying to help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life. If you're not a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, you've never trusted him as your savior, you're living in very perilous times because that's the dumbest decision anybody could ever make to reject Christ as their savior. The smartest decision you could ever make is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, as the Bible says, and you will be saved. And I hope you will do that. I hope you'll make that decision to trust in Christ. Maybe you're a believer. Maybe you've already done that. I hear from people every day by means of these 113 radio stations we broadcast on. Every Sunday morning, I hear from people telling me, I'm a Christian. I've accepted Christ as my Savior, but I've never really learned how to live the Christian life, and you're helping me. You're teaching me, you're showing me the information I need to know. That's my job, to show you basic Bible doctrine and get you under a well-qualified pastor where you can grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Now I want to talk to you about something very interesting today. This is kind of some in-depth message as we go into the new year. I want to talk to you about the devil's delusion. The devil's delusion. With this new year, it's coming up. You know, a lot of us are going to promise to do better. You know, we're going to give up certain things. We're going to be more healthy, no more cook, no more, no more Coke, Coke's and cakes and candies and all of that. We're going to join the gym. I had a friend of mine said, I go to the gym every day. I said, no, you don't. He said, yes, I do. I named my bathroom, the gym. So, uh, and I'm talking about the real gym. Go and join the gym, start exercising, you know, et cetera. All these are good and noble thoughts, but, you know, seldom are they adhered to. Doing good, you know, doing good, that's a basic human virtue, and we all, you know, try to live by the Ten Commandments, don't you? Treat people fairly, help the poor, help the homeless, do all those noble things. However, however, listen carefully. God's idea of good And man's idea of good are two totally different things. For example, the big idea that Satan wants you to do bad things is not necessarily true. He is indeed the author of organized religion, and that's a human good scheme to get to heaven. And that is truly the most evil thing on this earth, organized religion. Because organized religion wants you to be morally good, be a good person, And maybe you'll get to heaven, and that's not true. With God, it doesn't impress him. Good people do not impress God. Did you know that? The Bible says in Romans 3.10, there are none that are good, no, not one. So just because you're a Boy Scout and help little old ladies across the street and you don't smoke and you don't drink and you don't cuss and you don't cheat on your taxes, you don't cheat on your spouse, that does not mean you're going to heaven. There's only one way to heaven. Christ said, I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no man will ever come to the Father but by means of me. So you're not going to be good enough to impress a perfectly righteous God. And besides that, you know, talking about Satan, what he wants you to do, most of the really bad things we do, the sins we do, actually they originate from your own sin nature or sometimes from the lure of the world, which is what I call the call of the wild. In 1 John 2.15, the Bible says, Do not love the world. Do not love anything in the world, because if you love the world, then the love of the Father is not in you. So your spiritual life, if you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, can be very easily sidetracked, very easily get off course by allowing the flesh or the world to drag you into their control. Because both the world and the flesh are capable of doing good things that are not compatible with God's plan. Things like asceticism. I don't know if you know what that is or not, but that's extreme self-denial, doing away with all sorts of things. Avoidance of indulgence. Or maybe it's charity to feed the masses throughout the world. These are all good deeds, good deeds of the flesh or good deeds of the world, and they may appeal to your emotions. You may feel like you're doing something good, but that's not what's defined in the Bible as divine good. The devil's delusion is very crafty here. When our Lord Jesus Christ said Satan is a liar and the father of lies, he was referring to the devil's claims of innocence by attempting to discredit the claim of Christ as Lord. Satan doesn't want to go to the lake of fire. He knows it's real. He knows where it is. He knows he's been condemned to go to the lake of fire and he would like to vindicate himself. And that's part of the reason you're here, sort of like an appeal trial. And if he can get you to do good and to bring about some perfect utopia on the earth and everybody love everybody, then he can say, well, look, God, look what I've done. I'm not a bad person. So organized religion preaches you to do good as a way to gain favor with God and gain favor with man, obviously, but let's take a look at those ideas. What is truly divine good and what is the devil's delusion? Can I share some notes that I took years ago? My pastor that passed away, he pastored from 1950 to 2003, was R.B. Thiem, Jr. at Baraka Church in Houston, Texas. This is where I learned a lot of biblical information. I want to give you some of his notes that I took on divine good and human good, and let's listen up carefully. Here's the first one. Don't confuse human good with morality. or the legitimate production of the believer. God wants you to be moral, yes, and it's not a sin to be moral, but you won't go to heaven just because you don't fornicate. You won't go to heaven just because you don't get drunk. I'm glad if you are a very moral person, but sometimes those sort of people get into self-righteousness, and they'll look at someone else and say, well, I would have never done that. I wouldn't do that. Well, obviously not. That's not your area of weakness. Different people have different areas of weakness. So don't confuse human good with morality and the legitimate function of the believer. Human good is what a believer can do if he's out of fellowship with God operating in the devil's cosmic system. If you're a Christian and you've been saved, you can produce either divine good, which is rewardable, or human good, which will be burned up at the judgment seat of Christ. We'll get to that. But human good is not valid in God's eyes. It's not valid because it is production of the flesh. It's the production of evil. It's the counterfeit of the original. And this is what Satan is good at. In organized religion, he counterfeits the original. You know, the Bible says, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. What would the devil tell you? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and give up Coca-Colas and you'll be saved. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and don't drink any more beer and you'll be saved. That's not true. That's good. That's you trying to earn your way into God's favor by giving up something. That never works, but that's what organized religion will tell you to do. Please don't buy into that. Human good is characterized by some sort of fanaticism often. You know, that's sort of an arrogant concentration on some person or some subject, making you the ultimate do-gooder. You know, I'm going to straighten the world out. Fanatics. Fanatics produce all sorts of human good by protesting against whatever they disapprove of. could be the environment, they don't like what's going on and so they say the world's heating up and the world's gonna melt and we gotta get on the environmental train. Listen, the Bible tells you how the world will end. If you're interested, read 2 Peter. The Bible clearly lays it out and we're not gonna destroy this planet. Man does not have the capability to destroy this planet. But some environmentalists may get on some good kick and say, well, if we could just get this under control, then the world would be a much safer place and we'll all be okay. And maybe an animal rights activist or racial injustice or abortion rights, whatever. If all these people had their way, the world would still have problems. And it's because man has a sinful condition. We all have a sin nature, and you cannot eradicate the sin nature. I don't care who you put in control. I don't care who you elect as president, who's the king. He has a sinful nature. So the one thing that can actually change the heart of a man, the one thing that could actually make things better, is protested against, protested by people that don't like religion, such as the Freedom From Religion Foundation, because they consider religion Religion is a bad thing, and they consider they're doing a good thing by protecting the atheist. And that's the one thing that could actually change the world. If someone believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and accepts him as their Savior, the Bible says he'd be a new creation. Old things are passed away and all things become new. So why would they fight that? Why would they want to stop what would change a man's heart? these are human good efforts that do not impress god and the world is full of this do-gooder self-righteousness arrogant concentration of the do-gooder there there are about two or three different classifications of human good and let me try to explain it to you when you if you're a believer and you have sin in your life you have unconfessed sin in your life Maybe you've lied, didn't deal with it. Maybe you've cheated, didn't deal with it. Maybe you've been unfaithful, didn't deal with it. But yet, for example, you go to church and you put money in the offering plate, you sing in the choir, you went to Sunday school. That's human good. That's good deeds you produce from the energy of the flesh under the sin nature, not from the filling of the Holy Spirit. So when you're out of fellowship, you're in the cosmic system. And if you're in the cosmic system, you're not in the spiritual life. You're carnal, not spiritual. And any good deeds you do while you're out of fellowship with God is called human good and it will be destroyed at the judgment seat of christ jesus christ our savior our lord didn't die for human good he died for sin he paid for our sin so human good has to be judged and it will be judged at the judgment seat of christ for the believer there's also a type of human good that's an establishment good And, you know, like joining the military and protecting and serving their country. That's a good thing. That's okay. But you're not going to go to heaven because you joined the Marine Corps. You're not going to go to heaven because you were in the Army, the Air Force, the Coast Guard, the Navy. You go to heaven because you believed in the Lord Jesus Christ. But it's a good thing. Establishment, orientation, serving your country, protecting and serving your nation. And then there's the human good of the unbeliever, the disadvantaged person. And this is all registered in the Book of Works in Revelation. We'll talk about that shortly. And this is what organized religion produces, which is a form of ritual without any reality to it. Ritual without reality is meaningless. So when I'm talking about human good as opposed to divine good, I'm talking about a reference to anything that's produced by you apart from the grace provisions given by God. And let me tell you two of them, and they're part of the 10 problem-solving devices. The filling of the Holy Spirit and Operation Z. Operation Z, I will explain. The filling of the Holy Spirit is what you get when you rebound from your sin. When you confess your sin, you're filled with the Holy Spirit. The moment you believed in Christ, you're indwelled by the Holy Spirit. You're sealed with the Holy Spirit. You're filled with the Holy Spirit. You're given your spiritual gift. You're regenerated. But you can quench the Holy Spirit and grieve the Holy Spirit by sinning. Mental attitude sins, sins of the tongue, even overt sins. And when you commit those sins, then you are out of fellowship. And if you don't use the first problem-solving device called Rebound, 1 John 1, 9, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That means he'll do it every time you go to him. Every time you go to your Heavenly Father and admit your sin, he will cleanse you from it. And this doesn't give you a license to do it over and over and over again. It's just giving you a way to get back in fellowship with God before you fall under divine discipline. So any human good is what you produce while you're not filled with the Holy Spirit, even though you might have been at church, you might have been giving money, you might have been singing in the choir, you might have been at Christmas caroling. Good, good, all good. But human good, not produced by the filling of the Holy Spirit. But when you're filled with the Holy Spirit, those same deeds that you did, sing in the choir, give money to your church, go visit the sick and the poor, that's rewardable. That's divine good, and that's a wonderful thing. So God's grace provisions are the filling of the Holy Spirit and Operation Z. Operation Z is you being fed the Word of God by your pastor. communicator communicates it to you the holy spirit helps you to comprehend it and you capture that information and you comply with that information anything god provides in grace and it's all grace given to you it's all free it's there anything god provides in grace for production of spiritual life that can be divine good so human good And divine good are antithetically, mutually exclusive, totally different. They are not the same. Human good originates inside the cosmic system, the devil's world. Human good is dead works, dead works, Hebrews 6.1. So if you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and you get out of fellowship and you Maybe you justify why it's okay to do something. Remember, arrogance always has three steps to it. Self-justification, self-deception, self-absorption. So you're arrogant. You sin. You don't obey God. You don't listen to God. And then you get out and you start doing some sort of Christian service. That's dead, dead. Human good works dead. All of your production while you were in that cosmic system of carnality is dead, and you will never be rewarded for it, and you will never advance spiritually until you learn what human good is. So human good produced from the cosmic system is never acceptable to God, never. Isaiah 64, six says, all of our righteous deeds are like a filthy rag. If you can imagine the nastiest, dirtiest, filthiest thing that you can imagine laying on the floor, That filthy rag is equivalent to your good deeds. And the person in the cosmic system cannot manufacture any clean deeds. It's totally unrighteous. All of us, the Bible says, those in the cosmic system, wither like a leaf and our perversities are like the wind and they blow us away. So you can give up trying to impress God because you don't smoke. You can give up trying to impress God because you don't drink. You can give up trying to impress God because you don't say dirty words. You want to impress God? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Take God's word, learn it, and use it, and you will have the most unbelievable, fantastic life of happiness. that the world has ever known because Jesus said it himself, happiness belongs to those people who hear my Father's word and to keep it. So human good will not provide salvation for you. It will not do it. Titus 3.5, not by works of righteousness which we have done. This is what the person in the cosmic system believes. And that's called the devil's delusion. And the devil's delusion contends that faith is not enough for your salvation. And there are whole denominations built on this. living your life inside the cosmic system and performing good deeds. 2 Timothy 1.9, not according to our good deeds, but according to his predetermined plan, even grace. So yes, I want you to be good. I do not want you to be immoral. I do not want you to sin. but I want you to produce divine good from the filling of the Holy Spirit. That's why it's necessary for you to understand the protocol plan of God. So you don't get to heaven and think you got a lot of rewards waiting on you, and wham, you wind up having this big bonfire with everybody watching, And all of your good deeds are burned up, 1 Corinthians 3. You can read about it yourself. Some is wood, hay, and stubble. Some is gold, silver, and precious stones. The foundation is there that your faith alone, in Christ alone, but all of that human good, all the good things you did while you were out of fellowship, While you had unconfessed sin in your life, those will be destroyed. They did not glorify God. Why? Because they were produced in the energy of the flesh. Even lost people can do good things. Just because you did something good does not mean God is impressed. So this is what the devil's delusion is. He deludes people in regards to faith. He deludes people in regards to the Christian life. He makes you think you're a good Christian because you don't drink or dance or smoke. When I first got saved, I had people try to mold me into being what they considered to be a good Christian. And you cannot believe some of the things I was told I shouldn't do. As a matter of fact, I soon found myself saying, well, the only thing I can do since I'm now saved is go sing in the choir and go bowling. And I don't sing and I don't bowl, so I was in trouble. What can you do if you're a Christian? Can you have fun? Can you laugh? Can you go to a movie? What can you do? Well, you need to understand what the Bible teaches is sin, and then you'll be freed up from a lot of that self-righteous legalism that people try to manipulate you with. So the devil's delusion will contend that faith is not enough for salvation, that you have to do something else. And, you know, like what else? Well, how about being baptized? You got to get baptized. If you're not baptized, you're not saved. That's not what the Bible says. And I know people get mad about this one. Paul said, God did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, and not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should have been made of none effect. And he said, I thank God I baptized none of you, except Crispus and Gaius and the household of Stephanas. If there were any others, I don't even remember who they could have been. But he said, the word of God, the power of the gospel is found in the word of God. That's the power of the gospel. Romans 1.16, not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, because it is the power of God unto salvation. The good news, that's what gets a person saved. Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the anointed son of God? Because the Bible says, he that believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. And he that believes not, the wrath of God abides on him already. It didn't say believe and give up coke. It didn't say believe and get baptized. It didn't say believe and do anything. It said believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Is he or is he not who he said he was? If he is, then go to the Father in prayer and tell him, I believe that Jesus Christ is your son, and I'm willing to accept him as my Savior. That's the prayer of salvation, and that's the prayer that God will honor. Now, all of this human good we're talking about, all this good stuff, it will be judged. It will be taken care of in the future. If you are a member of the church, the body of Christ, and you are if you're listening to me and you're saved, then your judgment will be at the end of the church age at what's called the judgment seat of Christ. And this is where 1 Corinthians 3, it talks about the wood, hay, and stubble. In Romans 14, 10, we must all stand before God's judgment seat. Now, he's not going to pull up your sins. Let's get that straight. Don't think there's going to be a movie projector. Everybody have a seat, and let's watch Rick. We're going to see where all the sins Rick did. Here's some popcorn. Have a Coke, soda, and watch Rick fail. No. All of my sins, all of your sins were paid for on the cross. That's not even the issue. The issue is our good deeds, whether or not that's acceptable to God. And we will stand before the judgment seat of Christ and give an account. In 2 Corinthians 5.10, for we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ so that each one of us may receive what is due us for the things that are done. That's rewards, whether in the body, whether good or bad. So the believer's human good is evaluated, burned up, done away with, judged. Now, if you're an unbeliever, at the end of the millennium, the great white throne is where unbeliever's sin is not an issue either. It's his human good. First of all, his name in the Lamb's Book of Life. No, it's not. Revelation 20, verse 12 through 15. No, his name's not in the Lamb's Book of Life. He died without accepting Christ. Well, what about the book of works? What about all of his good works? Can they measure up to God's righteousness? And the answer is no. Revelation 20, 12 through 15. So any sort of good the unbeliever does establishes no credit with God. No credit with God for the unbeliever at the great white throne judgment. And the Bible says, many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did I not prophesy in your name? And didn't I do many wonderful things, good works? He'll tell them I never knew you. Because that's all totally divorced from the integrity of God. It doesn't accomplish what it seeks to accomplish. And it never fulfills the objective of improving anything. You cannot, you cannot clean up the devil's world. does not impress God, you're trying to clean up the devil's world. So any Christian service, any work apart from the filling of the Holy Spirit can be nothing but human good. It's the enemy of your modus operandi in your life. So don't misunderstand what I'm saying. We should help the needy. We should feed the poor, but it must be done under the filling of the Holy Spirit to be rewardable. Even a housewife washing dishes can produce divine good if she serves God in her capacity and in her sphere of influence. So here's the bottom line. Human good is no good in God's eyes. Divine good brings glory to God and is redeemable and rewardable to his children. The devil's delusion is that by being good, you will get to God, and that if we would all be good, the world would be a much better place. That's a lie. There's never a shortage of those who are willing to tell you what's good and what's bad. You know what I'm talking about. So they're always there saying, no, that's bad. Okay, that's good. You can do that. You can't do that. Stay away from those people. Divine good production under the filling of the Holy Spirit is one of the most overlooked doctrines in the Bible. Thus confusion, misunderstanding allows Satan to foster his programs in the cosmic system while he seeks to vindicate himself and his actions in eternity past. He doesn't want to go to the lake of fire, and he's trying to use you to vindicate himself, trying to use you to get away with being judged. But the sentence has been passed. He is destined to go there. And regardless of what you do, it's not going to change things. But he's trying, and he'll use you to try to get away with it. So think about these things. Clarify in your mind the difference between divine good and human good. The next time you go to church, the next time you put money in the offering, the next time you sing in the choir, make sure you're filled with the Holy Spirit and not doing it in the energy of the flesh, or it's nothing but human good. Until next week, I'm your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you. Thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush delves into the intricacies of global politics with a focus on Donald Trump's forceful address at the United Nations. With guest Jim Paff, the pair dissect the perceived flaws of globalism, the UN's stance on international agreements, and the impact of strong American leadership. The conversation shifts to a critique of green energy initiatives and the role of NGOs in modern governance, questioning their effectiveness and intent.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Jim Paff joining us now, conservative caucus. Jim, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm doing well, John. How are you doing, sir?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm doing very well. And again, always stuff to talk about. Let's start with Trump and his U.N. speech.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, tour de force. Now, you know, it was the typical rough edges Donald Trump speech, but it was exactly what the United Nations needs to hear. Yeah, they did. Especially when you've got further talk and more aggressive talk about globalism because the UN Secretary General was talking about, you know, updating all these international agreements like Bretton Woods and coming up with a, quote, new financial framework. You know, these guys are out talking all day. This stupid gobbledygook globalism bull crap and Donald Trump's pressing for a strong America and truly did highlight in wonderful fashion America's current leadership on the world stage. So I'm very pleased by it. I thought it was awesome.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I thought he did a great job as well. In fact, I think it was one of those situations whereby, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, Jim, but you've got to wonder, okay, why did the escalator not work? Why did the teleprompter not work? And, of course, they're blaming it on us. And the reality is, yeah, I highly doubt that was on us. I'm sure that had something to do with you guys and kind of a poke in the eye. And I think they were thinking, well, if we cut a teleprompter off, he won't know what to say. What they didn't realize is, wait a minute, We've got Donald Trump, you know, yeah, he's got his book in front of him. But the reality is he can kind of go off script now. And man alive, you better watch out because he's liable to say something you don't like, which is exactly what he did.
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Well, he did, and the teleprompter did come back on, and they got it timed, and he had a speech right there in front of him. Anyway, by the way, I'm, you know, 85% convinced that it was on purpose. I agree. Because the lady who was kind of secretary of the meeting kind of gave the, we have checked that the teleprompter's work speech right in the middle of it. I mean, yeah, so it's all... bullcrap. And of course, that body does not respect either America nor, more importantly, Donald Trump. They've never respected America, even though we keep throwing billions of dollars at them. And as Donald Trump rightly pointed out, UN agencies were spending hundreds of millions of dollars to help illegal aliens flood into the United States. I mean, consider that for a second. Why would you even stay engaged with that organization? Well, thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
You just took the words, literally, Jim, took the words out of my mouth. My next question is, why are we still dinking around with these guys? I mean, at the end of the day, if we go away, they go away. Is that a bad thing?
SPEAKER 07 :
no, it's not a bad thing at all. I mean, they're welcome to go find some other city that they want to be in. Listen, there are arguments, and they're relatively rational for staying in. You kind of keep them in check kind of arguments, and the engagement does help in a way. All of that is really weak. The reality is it is a failed organization that is right now I mean, it's kind of replacing the WEF again, which kind of replaced it for a while, trying to centralize all these discussions over kooky, weird ways to try to get countries to do things. And in fact, on this international framework thing I referenced earlier that the Secretary General talked about, They want to use the principles of the UN Charter. Well, I don't know if any American has ever read the UN Charter, but that is a load of crap. Like, there is about 10% of it that if you took it all by itself is just fine and frankly possibly very good. But it is filled with stupid ideas. It's kind of like we went and rewrote Iraq or wrote a constitution for Iraq that was a disaster. The Bush administration wrote that thing. And the UN Charter was created right after World War II in 1948 when it was created, and it just shows that on the international stage and even some aspects of the United States for decades now has been unaligned with American ideals, the Judeo-Christian foundations of our Constitution. and the basic ethic of the Declaration of Independence, that rights come from God, they don't come from government, and that we seek God's help for us to maintain our liberties. And it takes a moral and religious people, as John Adams said, to maintain such a constitution as we have. So we've got to reassert those principles here at home. I can give a flip about these other countries that are going to hell in a handbasket and trying to align with them.
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I think his comments on the literally con job when it comes to green energy, which, by the way, he's getting criticized from the left, of course. At the end of the day, though, Jim, he is spot on. It is a con job.
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It is an absolute con job, and it is, from the very beginning, it was a means to extract billions from the West and to move it over to other countries, and in doing so, to move through the hands of NGOs so that a lot of people could become wealthy along the way. Think Solyndra, right? I mean, it's really a crazy system. And by the way, and I'm having arguments in the background with a fairly well-known progressive Christian guy who thinks that Donald Trump is some sort of absurd person because he's killing millions of people as USAID funding goes away, which is a lie because you have the same sort of scam going through that. If you hear the letters NGO or the words non-government organization, run away as fast as you can because we should never be giving money to those organizations. It's a government scam. to make people wealthy who have no other means to make wealth than to be connected to government in some way.
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Anybody that thinks the way this particular person does, I highly doubt has ever been to any of the third world impoverished nations whereby we send all sorts of aid and actually seen exactly where that aid goes. I mean, I've actually been to the Horn of Africa, Jim. I've actually watched and seen literally stacks and stacks and stacks of grain being sitting in places where you ask, OK, wait, I'm confused here. Everybody's not everybody, but, you know, people are starving. And yet all of these grain bags are sitting around. Why are these not being distributed out to individuals? And the answer is, oh, well, because those are confiscated the minute they arrive by all of the gangs and all the different things that are happening in that regard. And the reality is government has no control over that. And the reality is all you're doing is feeding the black market when you send that aid over. So, again, most of these people, Jim, like your friend, have no clue how that works.
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Well, and just keep in mind that things like waste are never fully tracked in these organizations. They just throw the money out at them, go buy food, go do it. We don't know how much waste is there. You do rightly point out that that aid is confiscated and used for government purposes as well as, like you mentioned, gangs, particularly in Haiti, and Trump pointed that out in the speech. If you want to know... uh the kind of egregious action that these non-government organizations undertake by the way not absolutely every one of them but a good portion of them are those of them Yeah, they do the same thing that congressmen do when they make insider trading deals as they're watching legislation move when they have control over it. The kind of wealth that is built – and there are very wealthy people connected to these organizations. The kind of wealth that they have is generated the same way. than members of Congress is. And lo and behold, we keep voting for money there because everybody's got the same attitude. 6,000 years of recorded history proves the radical corruption of mankind, and government reveals that very well.
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Yeah, what people don't realize when it comes to a lot of the NGOs is they really, in a lot of ways, Jim, in probably every way, there's a few good ones out there, as you just said. But most of the time, these are literal money laundering organizations whereby very wealthy individuals can get huge tax deductions for donating certain things in certain ways while then lining the pockets of other folks they wouldn't be able to line otherwise because they'd have to put them on payroll and pay overtime. all sorts of other taxes and doing so. So in a lot of ways, Jim, it literally is a money laundering scheme. And I'm saying that sincerely because that's exactly what happens.
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Well, and it doesn't just launder money through the programs that they are intended to undertake. The other part of the money laundering is that and this is Barack Obama perfected this and it went on steroids in the Biden administration. That money gets laundered to political activities. That's government actors. And that is maybe the other, maybe the worst form of that. I mean, it's one thing, waste and people, you know, taken off the till at the top of the till. That's bad enough. It's even worse when you move this into organized political activities. And we saw an evidence of that in the L.A. riots earlier in the year, because those L.A. riots were run by an organization called CHIRLA, which received millions of dollars from from state and federal money pots in California, and even, lo and behold, half a million dollars from the Department of freaking Homeland Security and the Biden administration. So these are all money laundering schemes. I've said very clearly we should never give money to any NGO or to any private entity unless, for example, in defense contracts, which are bad enough on their own, but that's a different issue, defense contracts where we say we're going to give you money and we actually get a product owned by the government thereafter right these service industries are trying to help democracy uh happen worldwide that's bull crap and then the last thing i'll say all this money going into foreign aid particularly to africa goes in to situations that are paused by those local government entities mostly authoritarian sometimes very poor democratic institutions And it lines the pockets of those local politicians who are causing the problem to begin with and should be required to have to suffer the consequences of their bad decisions. That's basic economics.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're right, 100%. Jim, how do folks find you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Theconservativecaucus.com. Theconservativecaucus.com.
SPEAKER 11 :
Always a joy, Jim. Appreciate you. Have a good rest of your week. Thanks, John.
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Talk soon.
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You bet. Have a great night. Again, Jim Paff. It's P-F-A-F-F, the conservative caucus. You just heard that a moment ago. Up next, Golden Eagle Financial, Al Smith, whereby if you need help with your planning for retirement, which most people do, by the way, talk to Al Smith today. He's got a great interview coming up. Stay tuned. We'll be back right after that. And you can find Al, by the way, just go to klzradio.com.
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TJ here with KLZ and Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, I have a question for you. I've been putting money away for a while in a savings account or maybe a couple of investment accounts, but what am I doing wrong and what can you do better than that?
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Well, I think a savings account is important because all the financial gurus, including myself, agree you should have three to six months savings that you have ready liquid access to. But retirement planning is a bit more long-term and And it's a bit more strategic. We want to take a look at the sum of money you'll need way into the future. And we want to look at how that money can last by providing you income for as long as you live.
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What kind of planning or strategy do you provide for folks with that that have a big savings but haven't made that next step?
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Well, that's a good question. If someone has a large amount in savings, one of the things I do is we have a conversation about their risk tolerance. Nobody's comfortable losing money, but having money in the market over a long period of time is a mechanism to accumulate wealth. And so we talk about the different levels of risk and the different products that are available. And we don't put everybody into one box, but I have an enormous assortment of financial products. And it's not that there's good ones or bad ones. It's there are some that are more appropriate for some people, but not for others.
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And that sounds excellent. How can folks get in touch with you for that meeting?
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You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if I'm not there, it goes to voicemail, but I return my voicemails promptly. And we could have a conversation in the office. If you live a considerable distance away, we can have a long phone conversation or a Zoom call, whichever you would prefer.
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And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
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Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
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You bet.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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All right. We're back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, Jimmy Kimmel. I'm not going to spend a lot of time here because, you know, it is what it is. And I even talked about this on the roundtable when we recorded this morning that I firmly feel and said this, I believe, either yesterday or Monday, that this is a decision financially made by Disney and probably the bean counters to bring him back. His contract is up at the end of the year. I highly doubt that his contract gets renewed. And if it does, I guarantee you there'll be a lot of things in it that aren't in there right now. And then on top of that, I think Disney knew that, wait a minute, if we go down this other path of just keeping him off, we're liable to have probably not one lawsuit, but maybe multiple lawsuits because of everybody that would be affected by this show being ended. And I'm sure the bean counters looked at it and said, OK, what's our choices? We can either run, we can get some revenue in, probably still be in the red by the end of the year, but maybe not as far in the red as we would be trying to defend certain things. Because keep in mind, people can bring lawsuits for all sorts of things, valid or not. You can sue somebody over a wrongly made peanut butter and jelly sandwich if you want in this country. You can do a civil lawsuit on about anything you want. And you still got to defend that. We need to change those laws, by the way, and actually make people responsible for said lawsuits. Anyways, at the end of the day, I think Disney finally said, you know what, our best thing is to probably just bring him back, even with the affiliates that aren't going to let him be back on air. At the end of the day, we'll get to the end of the year, and then we'll cut our losses and move on. With all that being said, he was back on air last night. No, I did not watch it. I don't watch Jimmy Kimmel, nor do I need to. Real quick, this is interesting, because I did see a video on this earlier today on social media. And I had forgotten. Charlie probably hasn't, but I had forgotten. Charlie, you probably know. What other show was Jimmy on prior to becoming Jimmy Kimmel? The Man Show. For those of you that maybe don't know what The Man Show was, go look it up. And you don't need to watch it because most of what went on there is so crude and rude you wouldn't want to watch it anyways. Yeah, just all sorts of stuff you don't need to see. Charlie's talking in my ear. And by the way, most of what was on the man show was very degrading to women. Extremely degrading to women. That's probably the word I should use. It wasn't a little bit. It was a lot. And he would make fun of all sorts of things. In fact, at one point in time, he was a blackface. any particular skit that he did. So lots of things Jimmy did that, frankly, I wouldn't have been proud of. And so anybody out there on the left, especially this painting Jimmy up to be some sort of a saint. Yeah, he's not. Not by a long shot. Now, I will say this. Was he funnier then than he is now? Yeah, he actually was. He was funnier then than he is now. All right. All that being said, he was on last night. And, by the way, he said a few things last night that were, once again, out-and-out lies. For example, these are exact words from Jimmy, and this is a lie. And I think Jimmy knows this, but he's going to go ahead and go on this narrative as well. Anyways, to those who had a hand in Jimmy Kimmel Live being suspended, Kimmel said, that's not legal, that's not American, that's un-American. That's a lie, by the way. Because it's completely legal in what they did. Now, he might not think it is because he's going to go push this whole free speech narrative, which, by the way, is a false narrative. As I've said many, many, many times on this program and on the roundtable, I said it again this morning, when you work for someone else, even under contract like Jimmy has, there is no free speech. You are bound by what that employer or that person paying you says. Period. There is no free speech. It's something, by the way, that we get backwards far too often because employees will even get this idea that, well, I have free speech. Well, yeah, you do on your own personal time, providing that that doesn't somehow negate the people that you are working with or show them in bad light because, yes, you have free speech, but there's also free consequences for that speech. I shouldn't say free. There are consequences to that free speech is what I should say. And in some cases, there's a hefty price to go along with said consequences. And as I've said many times, and I'll continue to say, I will defend anybody's right to speak whatever they want, any place, any time, anywhere. By the way, if they want to do it on the job, more power to you. But guess what? There's consequences to that. And we do have things in the country, even though there's free speech, for example, you can't, the old saying is you can't yell fire in a crowded theater when there is none. You're putting people in harm's way then by doing so. That's not allowed. That's not really free speech at that point. I mean, it is, but you're going to get in trouble for doing things like that. Just like, for example, we have Secret Service watching for individuals that would put threats against our president or any other elected officials for that matter. Secret Service will get involved. If you if you went out there anywhere on your social media and posted that, you know, Donald Trump should die and somebody should take him out, which, by the way, some lefties have done that. Yeah. Secret Service should be knocking on your door. Rightfully so. While that's free speech, there's consequences to saying that. In fact, to my knowledge, Charlie, you can get in trouble for saying that about anyone, not just the president. Secret Service may not be involved, but the local police department might be. If you posted out on your social media that you would like to see so-and-so die, especially if it's like an ex-spouse or something along those lines, guess what? Somebody's going to be knocking on your door. Trust me, they will. So, yes, there's free speech. But in this case, Jimmy last night going on TV and saying that that's not legal. That's his exact words, by the way. He's either very, very, very mistaken or he's a liar. One of the two. I'm going with the latter because he already lied in what he said about Charlie Kirk and Republicans. MAGA Republicans, by the way. He lied about that. What keeps him from lying about this? And frankly, the answer is nothing. So he went on, he talked about, you know, Ted Cruz and some of the people that actually came out in defense of him and were against the FCC, which, by the way, the FCC really didn't do anything. What they did was they said, listen, guys, be careful. As to what you put out there, because guess what? The airwaves aren't totally, you know, free and you can't just do, for example, you can't just do whatever you want to. For example, here on AM, FM, any kind of a terrestrial radio station, signals. Things that go out, you know, we're governed by the FCC. I can't come on here and just spew out, not that I would, but you can't just spew out every four-letter word known to man. I won't stay on air doing that. So even here with what I'm doing, it's not free speech. It's free speech with some brackets around it, I guess you could say. There are certain things the FCC will not allow for obvious reasons, by the way, because there's kids listening and there's other people listening and so on. And there's just certain things that, morally speaking, they don't want going over the airwaves. It's, by the way, how Howard Stern ended up getting banned and had to go shove off to satellite radio because he said far too many things that just aren't allowed to be said on the FCC or by the FCC, I should say. So there's this huge. misconception or misunderstanding in regards to laws and free speech and how they work and so on. And frankly, most people need to study up on them because they throw that phrase around, oh, it's free speech, it's my right. Well, is it? It depends. And in a lot of cases, most cases, by the way, most people have no idea how the real letter of the law works. And they throw things around like Jimmy did last night that it's not legal. Jimmy knows that it is. He's honestly, he's not that dumb. And don't let him fool you into thinking that he is. He again, last night, in my opinion, did nothing to apologize and lied again. And he's cutting his own throat, by the way. I mean, I can't make a serious bet on this because I don't know. I don't know Disney. But I will be shocked if they renew his contract. The only way his contract gets renewed is if his ratings go up enough to actually make the show worthy. I don't see that happening. I just don't see that happening. So we'll watch, see how it goes from here. But that was the rundown on what happened last night when he came back on air. And I'm not surprised by anything that he said, by the way. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning up next. Again, if you had any issues at all with this cold snap we had, talk to them today. Don't be caught in the cold, by the way, as we do get colder and you need your furnace on a nightly, daily basis. Call Cub Creek today. Find them at klzradio.com.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sunny Cutcher joining us now, Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, how was your day today?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, it's good. Always a joy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Always a lot going on, let's just say it that way.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Never a dull moment. So, first off, before we get started, for those that may be listening for the first time, who is Young Americans Against Socialism?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, so Young Americans Against Socialism is a nonprofit educational organization founded in 2019 by Morgan Zegers. You may have heard of her name before. And she was in college, and she had a communist roommate. And she understood, finally, it kind of all crystallized in that moment that kids are being radicalized into, you know, leftist, useful idiots, if you will, to... push along the left agenda. And they are being used by the radical left to accomplish these tasks and kind of convince people that the leftist ideology is what will bring success or prosperity through equality and fairness, which the left will do no such thing. And so she set out to create an organization that would teach young Americans about socialism and what it means to what it is, how it functions, and how it destroys societies. And so that's our goal is to teach kids and Americans of all ages, but specifically kids at school age, that they will embrace American values, constitutional values, so that they know exactly what they're talking about and they can stand on their belief with conviction against kids, their peers. and kind of debate them in these topics, just as you would see Charlie Kirk do. Morgan actually worked with Turning Point before she started this organization.
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Awesome, awesome. Well, speaking of, there was a great, of course, you know, there was a great ceremony that happened on, Sunday, I didn't watch all four hours of it. I don't know if you did or not. I watched a few excerpts of it here and there. And by the way, a great celebration of life, really what that was, a memorial celebration of life, call it what you want. Ultra call, actually, there at the service itself. I mean, honestly, the lives that will now be changed moving forward, let's just say that not only did it have a great impact when he was alive, he's had a bigger impact, I think, even after passing.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely, and I think You know, he was the kind of person where we just felt on the conservative side, obviously, that he was just always going to be there. He's going to be championing the movement and championing American values and ideals. And so I think it was just such a shock for people to see a private citizen, you know, attacked and targeted that way and so violently and then taken out. And I mean, and that is the truth is that the radical left will stoop to violence and executions and killings and the like. And we've been seeing we've seen that over, you know, I would say probably 50 years now at this point. I think it's just that people don't realize, you know, actually how violent they are. We've seen the left carry out, you know, like pipe bombing, pipe bombing bombs and all of these different things that the DNC years ago and Weather Underground. These are actual domestic crimes. terrorist groups organizations that function you know under the scope of you know organizations but they're actually funded by the radical left wing that seeks to cause chaos and wreak havoc and actually commit violence to take out their opponents instead of debating us in the ideals and that's why conservatism always wins because we are the free marketplace of ideas
SPEAKER 11 :
Speaking of, and I don't know if you saw the news, but the Dallas ICE facility, there was a shooting there. The suspect was identified. One has been detained, killed. Two others were injured. So not a good day there. I think Kristi Noem even spoke about it today. I haven't been able to follow that story greatly because I've had a really, really busy day today. But a shooter opened – with a rifle opened fire from one of the nearby roofs onto the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement location in Dallas. That was this morning. And, again – I don't know the shooter, haven't gotten all the information on that a little bit early for all of that. But let's just say, Sonny, I would highly, highly, highly doubt that that person is a right-wing conservative.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, absolutely not. And I believe on his bullet, you know, they found some bullets left over. Yes, exactly. And so, you know, I think to some degree that... It's almost beyond identity politics at this point. Right. Because we are talking about mentally disturbed people who seek to commit violence. And now they you know, when you are in that mindset, that will stop at nothing. And I think it's really hard for like regular normal people to kind of like. assume that mindset and understand what that person might be going through or or who's funding them or who put them up to this or you know how they may have been radicalized or what types of ideas they've been floating around who they're talking to who they're coordinating with i mean there's so much that we don't know and i think that's again like why the charlie thing was so intense because people are starting to really see like oh we need to be asking questions because there's just so much that we are not told that we don't know and you know the the left uses that to their advantage by blaming it on you know gun control and and being anti-gun and uh anti you know the second amendment which um it's it's interesting because i know actually some like i know some people on the left personally and they are not against the second amendment they believe in the second amendment however they want you know stricter laws and such and i i Tell them. I say, you know, most of the time this happens, usually it's an illegal gun, you know, for the lone wolf where they go and whatever. These are illegal guns, number one. Number two, there are many gun laws in place all over the country. And so we have grace periods. We have background checks, you know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and really quick, too, the one thing I would throw.
SPEAKER 19 :
Mental illness of people, which is really the root of the problem.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and I would throw back to them, Sonny, too, that this is something I always say. It's like, okay, timeout. Last time I checked, it's against the law to take someone else's life. So all of the gun laws that we could even institute, at the end of the day, if they want to take someone's life, they're going to take that life. We already have laws against that. To your point, yes, there's all sorts of other gun laws in effect as well. But at the end of the day, it's already against the law to murder, to take someone else's life in cold blood, Sonny, yet they still do. So my point is there's not a law, one, that's going to stop that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Precisely, precisely. And that's why it comes down to, OK, well, what is happening in our society where people are to this point where they want to murder people because they disagree, because they're seeing illegal aliens being deported and now they want to go attack an ICE facility.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and this comes down to some of the things that you guys instruct on routinely. This is the Marxist way. Marxists don't believe in any kind of a supreme being. They don't believe in God. They don't believe in any kind of a higher authority. You and government, by the way, are authority at the end of the day, meaning that there are no consequences. They devalue life on a regular basis. I mean, we can go on and on, Sonny, all the way through this. Your curriculum explains this very well. But at the end of the day, this is what happens under Marxist influence.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes. And the other thing is the left is so committed to being anti-America. And the one major thing that I feel has really shifted our country in the last 15 years, let's say, is mass migration. And because most of the, you know, most immigrants who I would say come here, you know, of their own volition, hey, I want to go to America now. You know, we're not talking about refugees, just people who are like, yeah, I want to go to America. Wow, what a land of opportunity. They actually value what America is. When you have mass migration and you have organizations, NGOs, governments, essentially moving hundreds of thousands, if not in the millions, actually tens of millions of people into America. That has been, I believe, that is the root cause of, you know, detangling the degradation of the fabric of our society, because America is inherently about not only the individual, but also like the collective prosperity, meaning like we all kind of, you know, states rights. We work together in our own individual way to maintain the values that we have in this country, values above all. The Constitution is what protects us. Embracing those values is the highest. And so those migrants, they don't assimilate into our country. I mean, we've seen that. We've seen that. We threw the election.
SPEAKER 11 :
And really quick, Sunny, that's the difference between an invasion and immigration. What you just described a moment ago isn't immigration. It's an invasion.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I think people are... it's almost like afraid to admit that, you know, different people live different cultures, different lives in a different lifestyle all over the world. And, and I don't think those migrants would be afraid to say, yeah, they, they do live differently, you know, travel to, to Afghanistan, travel to Haiti, travel to, you know, Ethiopia or somewhere else in Africa. I mean, that is, that is the reality. And so it's not a racist thing. It's not, you know, it's an identitarian thing. Whereas being an American is, is so special because we value the way that our country has been founded. We value what brings our society together and how it holds us all together because we actually value the freedom that we are granted, whereas they don't have that in other countries. And so, you know, the full circle, of course, that is what we teach in our resources because Kids are being indoctrinated in schools to hate America and to support these types of things like mass migration because they don't have that. They don't have that reverence for our country. And that's where you see a person like this, you know, targeting an ICE facility because he believes that we are actually like deporting citizens, perhaps, or, you know, some of these lies that are being told because. They're being pumped with these lies that we hate immigrants, and it's not about immigrants. It's about a mass migration invasion, as you mentioned.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep, yep, absolutely. All right, how do folks find you, Young Americans Against Socialism? What's the best way for folks to do that?
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. Our website is the best place to find our resources, yaas.org, Y-A-A-S.org. We have written interviews, video interviews of survivors of socialism and communism. That is the heart of our organization is to interview their stories because that really resonates with people when they hear the stories of how people came to this country to escape tyranny, escape oppression, and to enjoy the American lifestyle and to really embrace those ideals. And then you can find us on all social media channels and check out our content where we just post leftist crazy rhetoric and things to watch out for, propaganda, etc., And we'd love to hear from you and donate if you are so inclined. We really appreciate your support, and thanks for having us every Wednesday.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Sunny, I appreciate it very much. Have a great rest of your day. Keep up the great work.
SPEAKER 19 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right.
SPEAKER 19 :
Have a great one.
SPEAKER 11 :
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We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Joe, you're up next. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, just a couple of things about who the killer was and the gun he used and why those people were killed. The killer's name is a guy named Joshua John, J-A-H-N. 29 years old, previous conviction for marijuana possession, whatever. Now, and by the way, when he shot these people, it was between 6.30 and 7 in the morning. Sunrise in Dallas this morning wasn't until 7.17. And the people that were wounded and killed were inside the ice van. So it was dark. He was shooting into an ice van, had no clue who was inside that van. So to say that He was targeting detainees as complete nonsense because he had no idea who was inside that van. It was dark and the van was closed. So he was just shooting into an ice van. And the gun he used, I don't know if you've seen the picture. You know what a stripper clip is?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, for those listeners who don't know, a stripper clip is not a – people use the words clip and magazine interchangeably. They're not. A clip is just a little piece of metal – that holds five bullets in a vertical stack. And some of the World War I and World War II era guns, when you wanted to reload it, you didn't have a magazine you could replace. You simply lined up this little clip that was holding these. And with your thumb, you pushed them down into the gun and threw the little piece of metal away.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's where the term clip comes from, by the way, not magazine.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not in magazine, right. So, you know, the 1903 Springfield and the German Mauser, they all used stripper clips, again, which were just a temporary holder for the rounds. And you line that holder up with the top of the gun and you took your thumb and you push the bullets out of the clip down into the internal magazine of the gun. And that would make the gun, by the way, either a 1903 Springfield or a German Mauser, both, you know, World War II surplus guns, bolt-action surplus guns. And the rounds kind of look like .30-06, although they could have been 8mm Mauser, but I think they're .30-06. So, again, he had no idea who was inside the van. It was dark. It was, you know, pre-dawn. Using a bolt-action rifle that is probably like his grandfather's, probably a really old gun. And previous conviction for marijuana, and again, with the anti-ice saying scribbled on the rounds, clearly he wasn't, you know, definitely MAGA, as some of these idiots are saying.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and to me, that's a pretty easy one on the front side. And I know some would disagree with this, but Joe, rarely and not saying it wouldn't ever happen. But by the way, we would disown anybody along those lines if they did. But rarely is it somebody that's going to be in that, you know, you know, on the right in the conservative movement. And I'm not talking the far-right wackadoodles that are out there, because I don't claim any of those individuals, by the way, Joe. They're so far right, they're left. So I'm not talking about those. But normal, sane folks on the right are not going to go do that, period.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. Yeah, we've had some right-wing wackadoodles that have tried to burn down abortion clinics and whatnot, and they're wackadoodles.
SPEAKER 11 :
They are. And we don't claim them, and we want full justice for them when that happens, because we don't agree with them at all when they do those things, period.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely not. So anyway, that's the story. We're going to learn more, obviously, as they begin to research and look at his social media and whatnot. But anyway, 20-year-old guy, Joshua John, J-A-H-N, lived in both North Dallas and Oklahoma prior to marijuana conviction. Kind of a long-haired, almost a hippie-looking guy. You know, no Trump stickers, you know, none of that stuff. And he used an old bolt-action rifle.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, yeah, I mean, even reading a report that Homeland Security put out, and he basically fired in, you know, randomly, to your point, meaning that he didn't really have any idea who he was shooting at. He was indiscriminately shooting, meaning he was just picking at the van and pulling the trigger, if you would.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and he had no clue if they were ice age. He had no clue if anybody was in the van at all. And if there was, whether they were ICE agents or somebody else. In fact, I would be surprised if there were somebody in the van. I would assume at that hour in the morning they'd probably be ICE agents and not detainees.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because you're going out to pick up people, not round them. In other words, you're not bringing them back at that point in time. That's typically not the way it works.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, at 6.30 in the morning, I would assume that if there was anybody in the van, I would have incorrectly assumed that if there was anybody in the van, they'd be ICE agents. I would never have assumed that there'd be detainees in a van at at 6.30 in the morning outside of a nice detention center.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would agree. And as you say, Joe, and it's one thing why I've always been hesitant to say a whole lot, because more and more information will come out on this over the next couple of days, but chances of it being somebody from the MAGA side of the fence is probably a stretch.
SPEAKER 08 :
But by the way, the wackos on the left, John, they're already saying this is a setup at stage. Oh, geez. FBI, this was a setup, and they're making this guy the fall guy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now they sound like our side at times when we do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. The number of people who are making this out to be a conspiracy plot, the FBI's in on it, they wanted to kill these detainees. John, you'd be stunned and saddened by how many of those people are out there posting those comments. And by the way, John, I'm surprised you were here today. I thought the rapture would have taken you yesterday.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I guess it just shows, like I said initially, that we would be here on the 24th talking, not because I didn't go, but because it didn't happen. And the reality is, no, Joe, it didn't happen.
SPEAKER 08 :
It didn't happen. John, it's amazing how every year you get that right.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know. And these are individuals, again, I'm not claiming any of these individuals because they're people that are really in it for all the wrong reasons. They try to make a name for themselves. They try to get their five-minute moment of fame, I guess you could say, Joe. Yeah, at the end of the day, I don't claim anybody that ever sets a date along these lines because there isn't any way to do that. They're whacked and it's not going to happen. In fact, I can guarantee you, like I said prior, anybody that sets a date, I can guarantee you it's not that date.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, John, if you want to get rich, just say, look, I'll bet you everything you own versus everything I own that you're wrong. What do you got to lose, John? If you're right, it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, unbelievable, Joe. And again, for everybody listening, the way all that came up was I had a listener, I don't know, a month and a half or so ago that basically said, how come you're not talking about this rapture date on September 23rd? And my answer back was, well— A, it's not going to happen. B, I don't talk about nonsense. But I kind of made fun of it just because it is funny in a way, Joe. And, no, I don't talk about these things, you know, very often unless somebody actually prompts me to do so. In this case, they did. And, again, look where we've turned out. You know, nothing happened, of course.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, John, again, I think you're missing a money-making opportunity. Next time this comes around, you know, have your lawyer draw up a contract, you know, that you're going to bet. And you can make a legal contract, by the way, of something, you know, it's It wouldn't be illegal under state law. And he can draw up a contract where you're going to bet everything you own against everything that other person owns. And, John, you've got nothing to lose because if the rapture does come, you wouldn't need your stuff anyway. And if it doesn't come, you just want a bunch of assets from the other person.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. You know what? Not a bad idea, Joe. All right. All I got, John. All right, man. Appreciate it very much. Thank you, Joe. Let's do this. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. And again, I always say all under one roof because Dave can rejuvenate your current roof. He can take care of anything that's necessary along those lines to even get your insurance maybe reinstated if they're looking at canceling it. And by the way, if he can't, he can do a full roof replacement. I talk about that all the time. He can definitely do that on the commercial side, on the residential side. You name it. Dave is there to take care of you and all of your roofing needs all under one roof. 303-710-6916.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, Dave, got two minutes. Go for it, sir.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, great show. Thank you for taking my call. I just don't get why people think Yeshua was a liar.
SPEAKER 1 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know, Dave.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, because he's talking to his disciples, and he's saying, when you see these things. Right. So how is he talking to us? I believe that Matthew 26, Revelations, is largely talking about the fall of Jerusalem. and the end of that age, the end of the temple age. And I've got their scriptures and their historical Josephus historians that can validate that belief, but he was talking to them. He wasn't talking to us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I will—Dave, thank you for saying that, because I tend to be more on your side of the aisle, and even though I grew up not really being taught that and really taught something completely different, I tend to side with you on that. And again, this is not a show where I get into really deep theological things, because it's not really the audience for, but I'm with you on this. I believe fully the way you do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's— And I think, and not to turn this into a religious session, but that belief robs Christians of their power because they think it's going to get so bad that they have to be rescued.
SPEAKER 11 :
I agree. And I also will tell you that a lot of that really didn't become popular talk until the late 1800s, early 1900s for some reason, Dave. I don't know why, but that's really when it became popular.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and unfortunately it's robbed a lot of Christians of their power. I fully agree with you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fully agree. Well, really quick, Dave, it makes a lot of Christians to be out, to be very weak and meek, and that's not the case at all, nor should we be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, not at all. And one thing about Charlie Kirk, who is precious to all of us, I think one of the things that made him so powerful was that he listened to Daddy's voice. An 18-year-old going on a mission like that?
SPEAKER 10 :
True.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's got to be from daddy. That's got to be from God.
SPEAKER 10 :
True.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he listened and he went where daddy told him to go. And I'm hoping that people understand that Charlie was the vessel. We honor the vessel. but we glorify God, and it was God's Spirit in Him that enabled Him to do that, and God's Spirit in all of us can enable us to do the same.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Well said. I'll leave it at that. I can't add anything to that, Dave. I appreciate the call very much. Very wise man, by the way. We'll come back. Another flower coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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At least three people have been shot at a Dallas, Texas, ICE facility. Reports are emerging that there was a sniper on the roof with a long gun who shot multiple people. No word yet on any fatalities. The details are still emerging. Here we go again with yet another act of political violence. Now, let's do a little pop quiz. You think that was somebody on the right who supports law enforcement and the mass deportation of those who have broken the law to be here? Or do you think that's somebody on the left who who decided to try to take matters in their own hands. Do you know there has been a 1,000% increase in assaults on ICE officers? Nonetheless, the governor of California signed a law to ban certain law enforcement officer protections, like the masks they wear so that they can't have their families hurt by these lunatic, violent leftists. Look, we got a big problem on our hands, and it way exceeds the travails of an unfunny late-night TV host. We got massive problems in America. You want to know a bigger story than Jimmy Kimmel? I mean, first of all, this one. Another, another act of blood spilled after... These despicable Democrats have referred to ICE agents as the Gestapo and fascists and Nazis. All these ICE officers are doing is their job. You want to make open borders? Elect Democrats and let's have open borders that will give them all, delight them all day long. Give you all the illegals to their hearts delight. You've got to go elect people who are willing to do that. America has elected people who favor deporting those who are here illegally, whether you like it or not. Let me repeat that. America has elected officials, elected representatives, who are enforcing the law. A majority of Americans favor the mass deportation effort that is underway, whether you like it or not. And now we're dealing with the chickens coming home to roost. Blood has been spilled again, just like it was spilled on that stage in Utah, where a leftist assassinated Charlie Kirk. Now a number of people have been shot in Dallas, Texas, at an ICE facility. Our ICE officers are facing a 1,000% increase in assaults. Vehicles have been used as weapons against them. Doxing campaigns. Doxing, incidentally, for people who don't know that term, that's when you identify where somebody lives in their phone number and you reveal personal information about them so you can put them in harm's way. That's what doxing does. Now, these men and women are conducting heroic law enforcement actions. They're being targeted. You want to know why these ICE officers wear masks? To try to protect their families from being targeted by the highly sophisticated gangs like Tren de Aragua and MS-13. The Gavin Newsoms of the world want the ICE officers and their families targeted by highly sophisticated gangs like Trendi Aragua and MS-13. Prove me wrong. Why else? Are these Democrats led by the cacophony, the howls of protest from the AOCs and the Jasmine Crockett's and the Gavin Newsom's of the world? Why else would they want to unmask these ICE officers? Look, we're at a massive crossroads. And as this story unfolds, and we are witnessing more political bloodshed, more violence, and if you want to take any solace out of the breaking news out of Dallas today, it's that the miserable coward, the degenerate sniper, apparently offed himself as the agents were coming in to make an arrest. So he killed himself. Rest in hell. Go to hell where you deserve to be. Look, this is a problem that the Democrats have to address. Look, I was just talking to a friend of mine a moment ago, said, well, you know, how do we get together on this? How are you going to find common ground with this? Please, how do you find common ground with one political entity in America that Killing the good guys. Law enforcement is the good guy. The men and women who have a gun and a badge on their body and leave for work every morning, never knowing if today is going to be their last day on earth, who try to make a community safe and enforce the laws of the land, they are the good guys. disgraceful Democrats like Gavin Newsom has made them the bad guys. 13 minutes past the hour. We're in the Relief Factor studios. It's Wednesday, September 24th, 2025. I'm glad you're here. Our number is 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Give me your reaction. Again, breaking news. In the middle of ICE agents facing an unprecedented level of violence, out of Dallas, Texas, comes the report that a sniper took to the roof at the Dallas ICE facility and opened fire. Here we go again. Also, a massive story that we're going to cover today as well. Google admitted that the Biden administration silenced and censored political opponents. 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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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It feels like we're living in some kind of scripted TV show. If I were going to write a book or a novel or a Hollywood movie or a TV show, I'd have some blowhard Democrat go on TV, a woman who desperately wanted to be president over and over again, And I'd have her proclaim that the current administration is authoritarian the same or the day after it was revealed that the Biden administration censored political speech that they disagreed with. You can't make this crap up if you were writing a movie. Hollywood would kick you out. They'd laugh at you. They would absolutely laugh at you. If I were writing a movie, I'd write a script that had a prominent Democrat governor like Gavin Newsom go on TV on a Monday night and blast ICE law enforcement officers for being cowards and gutless. They have to be unmasked so that I guess the drug cartels can kill them. And then the next morning, someone would shoot up an ice facility in Dallas, Texas. This is otherworldly stuff. This is spiritual. This isn't coincidental. There's no way this would play out the way it's playing out. The Democrats can't get anything right. They can't get anything right. The story of Google... Telling, admitting yesterday on Capitol Hill, which is the biggest story that you should know about. Alphabet Chief Counsel Daniel Donovan told members of the House Judiciary Committee that the Biden administration created a political atmosphere that sought to influence the actions of platforms based on their concerns. regarding what they called misinformation. Donovan said, it is unacceptable and wrong when any government, including the Biden administration, attempts to dictate how companies like Google and YouTube moderate conduct, content. Now, Hillary Clinton goes on TV today, this morning. Morning Joe. And despite learning how Democrats, led by the Biden administration, deplatformed people left and right. Steve Bannon, Seb Gorka, platform on YouTube, gone for life. Lifetime ban. Why? Because they expressed beliefs. that the Biden administration found offensive. So with that in mind, I want you to hear what Hillary Clinton had the nerve to say this morning on MSNBC.
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I view it as very dangerous. It is right out of the authoritarian playbook, Willie. I mean, this is, you know, this is point four of the authoritarian playbook. Silence your opponents. Cripple the media that doesn't... give you the slavish attention and agreement that you desire. Use the power of the government to go after corporations and individuals. I thought, you know, Jimmy Kimmel did an excellent job last night in, you know, being... very emotional, actually, about that moment for him and how he felt misunderstood. And he certainly didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. But on the other hand, you know, standing up for free speech, I've said a million times, I mean, good Lord, the things that have been said about me and the lies that have been propagated. If I had only known, I could call up the FCC chair and say, take this person off the air. Get that person out of my sight, off with his head. I'm just looking at Joe. What?
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What? I've done nothing. Well, Joe Biden did just that. Joe Biden said, the Biden administration said, Seb Gorka is criticizing our draconian COVID lockdowns. Off with his head. Ban him. Steve Bannon is saying things we don't agree with about election integrity or COVID. Ban him. Ban him. Mike Lindell wants paper ballots. Round him up. Send him to the FBI. Surround his car in the middle of the night when he's getting a biscuit after a hunting trip. Confiscate his cell phones. Shut him down. Put him out of business. Don't do business with my pillow. He's critical of the way we conduct elections in America. And she's got the gall to go on TV. and claim that all the things that we know that a Democrat administration has done, Trump is doing. She wants you to think that the real authoritarian is Donald Trump. No, no, no, no, no. The real authoritarian, the real authoritarianism is what Google admitted yesterday. Users... including the FBI deputy director, Dan Bongino, were shut down from YouTube, banned for life at the Biden administration's urging. Well, not to worry. Now those users will be able to rejoin the platform. Isn't that big of them? Isn't that great? My gosh. My gosh. You talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You talk about projection. You talk about a guilty conscience. Hillary Clinton knows what the Biden administration did. She knows what her fellow Democrats were up to. Now we're going to get an update any moment from Dallas, Texas, on the ICE facility shooting, which has apparently resulted in at least two fatalities that we know of. This comes the morning after Gavin Newsom is vilifying ICE. Now, look, we're going to find out what the motivation is. Who knows? Apparently, a couple of detainees were actually the ones killed. If this was some twisted, evil, violent person whose motivation, again, all hypothetical, let's say this is actually a MAGA person, hypothetically, then we need to condemn it. We need to call it out. We need to denounce it in no uncertain terms. That's the way you do it. You don't vilify the good guys. You don't raise a legal defense fund for a Luigi Mangione. You stand up And you say and do what's right. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. This is going to be a busy breaking news day, and I can't wait to catch up with my friend and colleague, Dinesh D'Souza, a little bit later this hour. Of course, we're going to talk about his new movie, The Dragon's Prophecy, but I also want to get his thoughts on his experience with us, actually, a group of Salem folks at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. I got to ride on the bus with Debbie and Dinesh and share a lot of moments there together. And boy, Dinesh is a big deal. You always know how big a deal people are when you walk through a crowd of Charlie Kirk supporters and you happen to be working with Charlie on the same platform. I mean, I was very humbled and honored to shake a lot of hands and take a lot of pictures. And Dinesh D'Souza? Wow. He's like a rock star in a crowd like that. Larry Elder? No. Bigly famous. So it's a little humbling, actually. But we had a nice time to connect under very sad and, of course, tragic circumstances at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. Don't forget the I Am Charlie T-shirts, hoodies. A lot of people are ordering them, freedomandfaithstore.com. If you go to freedomandfaithstore.com, you can order. The I Am Charlie t-shirts and all of the net proceeds are going directly to Turning Point USA. So you're going to support a wonderful organization. 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What are we talking about? Trust the Dems or GOP more on the economy. Who leads on the economy? Republicans by seven. Immigration? Republicans by 13. How about crime? A big issue for Donald Trump and the Republicans. Look at that. lead by 22 points. So the bottom line is this. At this particular point, the ball may be on the ground, but the Democrats have not picked up the ball and running with it. If anything, at this particular point, it's the Republicans who are running with the ball on the top issues, the economy, immigration and crime.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Going to Phoenix this past weekend was really important, and I'm glad that I was able to share that memorable experience of the Charlie Kirk Memorial with some dear friends and colleagues. I am so blessed to work for a company that features voices like Larry Elder, Chris Stegall, Hugh Hewitt. We pray for our colleague Dennis Prager, who continues to recover. Mark Davis, Joey Hudson, Dinesh D'Souza. You know, I've been thinking about the storytelling by Gavin Newsom. You know, there's contemptible storytelling and there's honorable storytelling. And I truly believe that history is going to belong to the storytellers. When Gavin Newsom, for example, last night used that phrase, disappearing, referring to illegal immigrants. They know exactly what they're doing in using that word. It's actually deportation, an act that a majority of Americans favor. But now nobody's going to favor or approve of disappearing people, disappearing them. Men in masks are disappearing. It's in the storytelling. Well, one of the Most honorable storytellers of our generation is the man we're about to welcome to the show. He's the author, the filmmaker, the host of the incredibly popular Dinesh D'Souza podcast. He's authored over 20 books, many of them New York Times bestsellers. And, you know, I am riveted. I can't wait to go to the movies to see The Dragon's Prophecy being described as a mind-blowing cinematic experience. that examines the chaos in the Middle East sparked by the October 7th massacre in Israel. Who are the good guys? Who are the bad guys? Who does the land belong to? It's about time, and I am grateful that Dinesh D'Souza comes along once more with perfect timing. Dinesh, it's great to see you, albeit in a TV studio, because this past weekend you and I were trudging about two miles to get from the bus to the State Farm station. because I made the decision, and it was Debbie, I think, who went along with me, right? I don't think it was you. I don't think you were so excited about walking two miles in the desert heat to try to get to the memorial, but we made an executive decision, and it turned out okay. And as sad as it was, I was honored to get to spend that experience with you and your wife.
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You know, we had just come back from Israel. We had gone to visit a biblical archaeology exhibit. And the very next day we boarded for Phoenix. So Debbie has actually come down with a bit of a cold, I think just being a little run down. But guess what? Neither of us regret. Well, we don't regret our trip to Israel and we don't regret being there for that really very memorable day. You know, as you know, Mike, it was very long. But on the other hand, some of those speeches, I don't think I will ever forget. It was a historic day for the country.
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It was also a day of worship, you know, which would make Charlie proud because he never missed an opportunity to express his faith in debating college kids. He always wanted to talk about, you know, our Judeo-Christian nation. He always wanted to talk about his love of Jesus Christ. And I'm telling you, Dinesh, when Pastor McCoy did the sort of good old-fashioned altar call and said to that— packed stadium. Look, if you're a believer, stay seated. But if you want to turn your life over to Jesus right now, stand up. And I saw all those people step up and stand up, Dinesh. It was miraculous. And what a testament to this 31-year-old man who was cut down right at the top of his game and as effective as anybody we've seen. And they killed him for it, Dinesh.
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And I think also, Mike, I was struck by the fact that so many of the cabinet officials made specific appeals, not just to God in the generic sense, but specifically to Jesus Christ. I've never heard anything like it. Of course, in Europe, they're completely secular. But even here in America, typically presidents will make a kind of anodyne or generic invocation of God. Reagan would once in a while talk about the man upstairs. But this kind of a explicit appeal And Jesus is king in an event with executive officials of the highest rank, to me, was itself a message to the world.
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It was epic. It was one of the most memorable things I've ever experienced in person. And, again, I'm glad I got to share with you and Debbie and Larry Elder and our CEO, Dave Centrella, and Phil Boyce, my immediate boss, all the good people there at Salem. who got together. We had a wonderful group and a chance to break bread together Saturday night. So it was a very, very special, special time. I want to get to your movie, but before we get to that, and I'm so thrilled about The Dragon's Prophecy, but let's talk a little bit about real-world events. We found out yesterday that Google admitted that the Biden administration was directing Alphabet to censor points of view that the Biden administration didn't agree with. A personal question. Have you been censored and shut down by the government over speech that they didn't like, Dinesh?
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Without a doubt, I have something like 700,000 to 800,000 followers on YouTube. When I first started my podcast, I was getting 150,000, 200,000 views on YouTube. And then mysteriously, one fine day, they dropped to about 10,000. And they've remained almost mathematically consistent ever since. So it's hard for me to believe that there is not some sort of an algorithm of suppression built into Google. And we also saw the difference on other platforms. The moment that Elon Musk bought X, my following went from two million to over five million. So once you're unshackled, so to speak, then the free market of ideas kicks in. So I'm really glad to hear this about Google. I mean, they've extracted a terrible price on a lot of us in this systematic government driven censorship.
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We've witnessed unbridled anti-Semitism. We've experienced college campuses marching around with Hamas flags and signs. We've heard prominent Democrats screech from the river to the sea, all these horrific things. For many people, what's happening between Israel and Hamas is is complicated. It's difficult. I'm a good guys, bad guys kind of a person. I like to know. For me, it's not hard. Israel wants to survive. Their opponents want them to die. They want to destroy Israel. Tell us a little bit about how this came about, the dragon's prophecy. We're going to give everybody the details on how you can see it and in a theater near you when it opens up shortly. But tell us a little bit about the whole genesis of The Dragon's Prophecy and what's it all about and what people can expect when they watch it.
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Mike, I was exposed on a Salem trip to Israel to biblical archaeology at the end of 2022, really startled to discover that many things in the Bible that for centuries were only in the Bible, they didn't have any external or historical corroboration, were being verified now through artifacts and seals and stones coming out of the ground, almost like God is speaking back to us in this last age and speaking back through the language of archaeology and of science. So this I found very interesting, partly because of my earlier work in Christian apologetics. Then along comes October 7th, and I'm horrified by what happened. And I see all these videos about it, and I realize that the videos aren't public. No one is getting a real look and feel of what it's actually like to be there on October 7th, even though these videos are taken not by the Israelis, but by Hamas. They're live streaming some of them on their own channels. And so I think about these two separate things and I realize that they're connected. They're connected because the underlying question is whose land is it? And of course, are the Jews the original inhabitants of that land? And while I'm mulling all this over, along comes Jonathan Cahn with his bestselling book, The Dragon's Prophecy. And he introduces a startling idea to this debate, which I realize is very relevant. He says this, that the battles between Israel and Hamas now... are an eerie recreation, he even calls it a resurrection, of the battles between the ancient Israelites in the Bible and their enemies, people like the Moabites, the Amalekites, and of course the most famous, the Philistines. And so this... A startling connection is drawn out in this film in a very cinematic and intellectually interesting way. But the film is not a regurgitation of what you're hearing now from the left and the right. Israel's a colonizer. What about the genocide? All of that is addressed in the film. And in fact, I have a one-on-one with Bibi Netanyahu about this very topic. Tucker Carlson comes into it and others. So it's a very timely film. And yet in some ways, it's very timeless. because it tries to see things through the broader lens of the Bible.
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I really can't wait to see it. And once again, you've got this great formula where you offer the movie at theaters. It's going to be available on October the 6th and October the 8th, so two dates in an actual movie theater. You can go to thedragonsprophecyfilm.com to find out what theater is going to be showing. You go to thedragonsprophecyfilm.com. But the best part of all, you can preorder streaming or the DVD of On your own, to watch it in the comfort of your own home, that'll be available, I believe, October 9th. Is that correct? It's Salem now?
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Exactly. It's two days in the theater. Very easy to remember because of the two days alongside October 7th, October 6th, October 8th. And then the very next day, it's available for streaming. The DVDs will land in your mailbox. So sign up for the theater or sign up for the streaming, but you do it all through the website. You don't buy the tickets at the theater. You buy it from the website. And it is the DragonsProphecyFilm.com.
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TheDragonsProphecyFilm.com. You're not going to want to miss it. I certainly am not. Dinesh, it's great to catch up with you. It was great seeing you again under such sad circumstances this weekend in Phoenix. Hope Debbie's feeling better soon, and you keep fighting the good fight. We need your voice now more than ever.
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Really appreciate it, Mike.
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Thanks. Dinesh D'Souza joining us to talk about The Dragon's Prophecy. And again, go to thedragonsprophecyfilm.com to sign up to go see it in person or to pre-order and get the streaming available or the DVD, thedragonsprophecyfilm.com. We're standing by to get an update from officials in Dallas on the ICE facility shooting where at least two people have been confirmed as killed. We'll also continue to take your calls. You heard what Dinesh said about the way he's been throttled on platforms like YouTube and others. Isn't it wild to see Democrats accusing the Trump administration of doing exactly what they've done? And it's been confirmed. It's being confirmed in real time.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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We're waiting for an official police update on the Dallas, Texas ice facility shooting where at least two detainees were killed. reportedly killed. I just got an update of my own from my pal Mark Davis, who, of course, is the legendary Dallas-based talk show host. And Mark laid it out, as only Mark can do, that the emerging narrative is that there's one of four motives. One of four scenarios. One, it was a leftist with bad aim. Two, it was a right-winger trying to kill illegals. Three, it was a left-winger trying to sort of frame the right by killing detainees and making it look like it was a result of a conservative narrative. Or four, it was a drug cartel hit. The detainees were targeted... by a member of one of the infamous drug cartels. Now, I think that's the least likely scenario when apparently the killer offed himself after he did the dastardly deed this morning sometime around 7 a.m. Central Time. He killed himself after this. So it was obviously somebody with some ideological agenda. The rhetoric over the mass deportation that is underway is pretty unbelievable. Just last night, Gavin Newsom was bragging about the way he has put law enforcement in harm's way. I'd like to believe that governors in America treasure and admire and support law enforcement in their state, not Gavin Newsom. Make no mistake, Gavin Newsom knows exactly why ICE officers in his state and around the nation are wearing masks. Because sophisticated crime rings like Trend de Aragua and the MS-13 gangs are targeting the families of ICE officers. And these ICE officers, you know, just happen to not want their wife and kids killed by the drug cartels. So they wear masks so they cannot be identified by the cartels. Gavin Newsom knows that and still signed a piece of legislation Saturday that tries to force the ICE officers out of wearing masks. His explanation to Stephen Colbert last night is so sickening. The talking points, they've all got them memorized on the left. Oh, people are being disappeared. No, they're being deported. Oh, people are in unmarked vehicles. Ever heard of unmarked law enforcement? Happens all the time. Check out what President Trump said yesterday at the U.N., a very interesting visit where it appeared that People there, staffers at the United Nations, did all they could to sabotage the president's appearance. He got on the escalator at the bottom of the escalator and it shut down. He tried to give a 15-minute speech and the teleprompter went out, which is just like waving a red flag in front of a bull for Donald Trump. You think he needs a teleprompter? He doesn't often use teleprompters. So if the U.N. thought they were really sticking it to him, they fell short. Here's what he said about illegal immigration in America and the mass deportation that's underway that most Americans favor.
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Our message is very simple. If you come illegally into the United States, you're going to jail or you're going back to where you came from or perhaps even further away. than that.
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You know what that means? Well, wait a minute. What about the asylum seekers, Mr. President? What about people who are seeking asylum here in America?
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According to the Council of Europe in 2024, almost 50% of inmates in German prisons were foreign nationals or migrants. In Austria, the number was 53% of the people in prisons were from places that weren't from where they are now. In Greece, the number was 54%. And in Switzerland, beautiful Switzerland, 72% of the people in prisons are from outside of Switzerland. When your prisons are filled with so-called asylum seekers who repaid kindness, and that's what they did. They repaid kindness with crime. It's time to end the failed experiment of open borders. You have to end it now. I can tell you. I'm really good at this stuff. Your countries are going to hell. In America, we've taken bold action to swiftly shut down uncontrolled migration. Once we started detaining and deporting everyone who crossed the border and removing illegal aliens from the United States, they simply stopped coming. They're not coming anymore. We're getting a lot of credit, but they're not coming anymore.
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A few minutes ago, the Texas governor, Greg Abbott, released a statement on X saying, and I quote, Texas fully supports ICE 100%. Both the Texas Department of Public Safety and Texas National Guard work closely with ICE. This assassination will not slow our arrest, detention, and deportation of illegal immigrants. We will work with ICE and the Dallas Police Department to get to the bottom of the assassins' motive. We will offer ICE additional support to assist their operation. Look, the attacks on ICE, they were up 1,000% in the month of September. This has been building. Attacks on ICE went up 500% in June, 690% in July, 1,000% this month. Alvarado, Texas, on the 4th of July, there was a coordinated assault. This was at the ICE facility near Fort Worth. A local police officer shot in the neck. He survived. Border Patrol facility, McAllen, Texas. Days after the Alvarado incident, a 27-year-old man in tactical gear opened fire on the facility. He was killed by police. But two officers and a Border Patrol agent were injured. Southern California. You saw what happened in Camarillo. federal agents needing to use pepper balls on the demonstrators who were slamming vehicles with rocks and bricks, blocking vehicles. On August 25th, a 36-year-old man was arrested after arriving at the same Dallas facility that was targeted today, claiming to have a bomb. Yakima, Washington, August 2nd. A giant rock thrown through the window of an ICE office. Broadview, Illinois. Throughout September, escalating clashes occurred between protesters and federal agents. You see, what happens when the left doesn't like what's happening, they turn to violence. And they commit acts of violence in a variety of ways. Maybe they'll kill people. One of the most prominent, successful, influential, young conservative influencers. A fellow that you know of. I'm sure you've heard of. The late Charlie Kirk. Maybe they'll shoot up an ICE facility. If there's an event that leads to a massive response... to a troubled man named George Floyd who died. Buildings are burned. Stores are looted. People are injured. People are killed. The left is desperate. The left is frantic. And frankly, they are becoming increasingly violent. Not really any way around that. 1-800-655-MIKE. Prove me wrong. Even the Atlantic yesterday, I was shocked. The Atlantic, big banner headline, left-wing violence has now surpassed the right-wing violence in America. Over the last few years, even the Atlantic forced to admit that the political violence is coming from the left. If you consider the love affair that leftists have with monsters like Luigi Mangione, you understand what's happening in this country. When life is marginalized, when assassinations are glorified, when evildoers like Hamas are celebrated, All this is coming from one side. So what do we do about it? If you're a Democrat, what do you have to say about it? I'm not trying to provoke you. I really would love to have a dialogue with you. In the spirit of Charlie Kirk, let's have a dialogue. When Hillary Clinton, just this morning... goes on MSNBC just today and says the following. Do you think that doesn't contribute to the climate of violence that we're right now witnessing? Here was Hillary on Morning Joe. I view it as very dangerous.
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It is right out of the authoritarian playbook, Willie. I mean, this is, you know, this is point four of the authoritarian playbook. Silence your opponents. Cripple the media that doesn't give you the slavish attention and agreement that you desire.
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She's talking, of course, about the Trump administration. She knows that just yesterday, Google executives told House lawmakers that the Biden administration pressed them, censored, removed, deplatformed, People whose content the Biden administration disagreed with. She knows that. She knows full well, just yesterday, that it was revealed and confirmed that the Biden administration absolutely censored Trump. YouTube content and shut down people with their YouTube. Ask Seb Gorka. Ask Mike Lindell. Ask Dinesh D'Souza. Ask Steve Bannon. Ask anybody who got in the Biden administration's crosshairs. What did they do with those folks? They shut them down. They censored them. They deplatformed. This is the biggest story, incidentally, of the week. I could give a rat's rear end about Jimmy Kimmel. I'm so over even talking about Jimmy Kimmel. Some people want to. That's fine. It's all right. I don't want to discourage you. But at the end of the day, I could care less. I care about prominent Democrats who do matter. The governor of California should know better. A failed presidential candidate like Hillary Clinton, former Secretary of State, a former U.S. Senator, she should know better. And she does know better. But they don't have the integrity to speak the truth. You can't keep calling your political opponents tyrants and fascists without violence occurring.
