
Join host Dana Lash as she takes you on a whirlwind journey through some of today's most shocking and absurd stories. From the bizarre antics of Florida residents to the deeply contentious legal battles unfolding in America's courts, this episode delivers a powerful reflection on modern society's challenges. Dana dissects Jimmy Kimmel's recent controversial statements and his public appeal for forgiveness, providing a critical lens on media influence and the dynamics of political narratives.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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I wanted to come back to this because we ran out of time for this one yesterday because it was such a weird story. It was the silly string one where it was a... florida escort who was arrested because she attacked a dude with silly string well the other article that i found said because i'm like if this guy literally filed like a battery charge because of silly string then he deserves to get attacked i just felt like that was stupid but he had a forehead laceration so i think it was just more than the silly string itself it sounded like she also hit him with the can so Yeah. The lady, the female was arrested for battery, changed that up and spent the night in jail. She bonded out for a thousand dollars. But yeah, they that that's what ended up happening with that. So I wanted to, you know, wanted to run that down. A Florida man attempted a cell phone drop via drone to a Sandstone prison inmate. OK, guys, mayors, it's Mayor Kingstown. Not everything that you see on television is going to, you know, like they have drones that drop phones and drugs in the jail. You can't do that. That's TV, y'all. It's not going to work. But this Florida man. Jose Moncada, he's 39 years old, was charged with introducing contraband into jail. And apparently, according to Pine County Sheriff's Office, the deputies responded to a drone that was flying over the institute, the prison. And they said there was an object attached underneath it. They all saw it. So it wasn't like it was, you know, it wasn't being... it wasn't hiding itself right it was very obvious and they watched this thing coming from a mile away bringing this phone and uh they all saw it they were recording it they had it all in the crosshairs they saw everything and then they a deputy later on initiated a traffic stop on a vehicle that was believed to have been involved with it and uh they found a black backpack in the trunk and etc etc and they arrested the guy because he had all the stuff to for the drone so uh they uh And they found the drone controller, cell phones, bubble wrap, all that stuff, and a pay stub. Like, he kept his pay stub for doing this. So he was taken into custody, obviously. Goodness. If Florida Maine illegally killed 13 American alligators, say wildlife officials. Brevard County, he's facing charges after wildlife officials say he illegally killed 13 American alligators. An arrest warrant for 21-year-old Jacob Latrelle of Edgewater says it happened over the course of several days in the St. Johns River. Near a boat ramp. They said that an illegal killing, possessing or capturing of an American alligator is a third degree felony, which answers my question of I keep seeing these alligators and clothes and like little T-shirts being carried around by people in Florida. Can I do that? No. The answer is no. That's a third degree felony, as I just found out. So a South Florida man. Oh, oh, he chose violence today. He torched the clubhouse of the Enforcers Motorcycle Club. Oh, boy. This guy's 47. Did you see his mugshot?
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I did.
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Dude, 47-year-old man. I think he probably wants to be in prison at this point, does he? Maybe not on the streets so much. Yeah, this is some death wish stuff. So he set fire. They're saying he's facing charges in connection with arson at the clubhouse for the Enforcers Motorcycle Club in Palm Beach County. They said that he faces one kind of second degree arson, burglary, property mischief, etc. No motive has been disclosed. But I would imagine that he probably is like, yes, please take me to jail. I'll burn something else down if you try to let me go. Yeah, I mean, it's literally, like, try to think of the meanest name for your biker club. The Enforcers pretty much is it. Like, you couldn't pick the Kittens and Sunshine Motorcycle Club, their clubhouse to burn down. You pick the Enforcers, the folks who will bring you the program, our friends at All Family Pharmacy. This website can never cease business because I will not know what to do. I love All Family Pharmacy. I use it. Not only can you get the stuff that gatekeepers try to keep from you, the hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, the whole nine yards, NAD+. all of that. But you can also get your emergency medications and daily medications. You can get antibiotics. Like, for instance, if I know that I'm getting strep, I've had it enough. I know what it is. I'm not an idiot. I'm not going to go out there and abuse antibiotics to the point of rendering them ineffective. But I'm not going to go and pay like an $80 whatever fee and go and have a doctor tell me what I know I have and then have to wait. No, no, no. I'm going to go to all family pharmacy, put in my symptoms. The doctor's going to look at it approve, and then send my prescription in and my medications right to my house. That's how it works. You can get it in two to four days, overnight, in a pinch if you need it. I also got my anti-nausea meds when I went on the MRC cruise to Norway. Ladies, I went and got the Latisse for your eyelashes, so if they start looking really good, that's why. You can choose your medication, not insurance or risk-averse physicians. Try it today. Take your medical freedom back. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Use code Dana10 today. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man.
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Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
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Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows.
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So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
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Awesome.
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So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan?
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What would I do if I got into an accident?
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Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
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Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
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I've been hearing a lot about what I need to say and do tonight. And the truth is, I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference. If you like me, you like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion. And I meant it. I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did... Point of finger. I get why you're upset. If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way. I have many friends and family members on the other side.
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OK, I'm done with him making this. Jimmy Kimmel wakes up like Candace Owens every single day and is like, how can I make this about me? I'm going to make it about me. It's all about me. Every day. I cannot stand that leftist mentality. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. I can't stand that leftist mentality because that's what it is. Let me just remind everybody. He didn't make a joke. He lied. He didn't make a joke. He went on air and he lied. He said the killer was MAGA. And then he blamed the administration for causing it and he was trying whataboutism and all of that other stuff. He said, quote, this was the comment that really set off the listeners for Sinclair and Nexstar. Quote, we hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. That wasn't a joke. Does that sound like a joke to you? No, because it's not. He lied. Jimmy Kimmel can kiss my ass. He went out there and he lied. And by the way, Andrew Colvette, the spokesperson for TPUSA, similarly has the same sentiment. Now, what would have been one thing? Look, I'm not a monster. I'm not like the left. We're not like the left because there's a purpose to what we do. We don't go out there and fight just to fight. It's all about waking people up, persuading people to come to reason. If that's not the point, then it's just all a vanity game. So we're not unrealistic. We're not impractical. We're not illiberal. There is a point to it. So it would have been one thing if Jimmy Kimmel had come out and said, you know what? When I said that MAGA was trying to characterize the guy who murdered, and he wasn't a kid, he was in his 20s, the guy who murdered Charlie Kirk, as anything other than one of them. I shouldn't have said that because it was wrong. We know that that's not the case. We know the motive of the killer. I shouldn't have said it. I lied and I'm sorry. I would have totally accepted that and this would have been a very different segment today. That would have been fine. I don't expect him to make any donations or anything like that. I just expected him to have the balls, to be honest. He's such a coward. He is such a coward. He acts like it's so brave to go on national television and lie his ass off. It's easy to do when everybody covers for you. What's harder to do is tell the truth. But he's such a partisan ideologue. He doesn't even have enough humanity in him to do that. By the way, he cries all the time. Lorraine reminded me of this last night. She's like, oh, my gosh, he cries all the time. Here he is. He's crying. Here he's crying. He cries all the time. So I don't take this seriously. He's crying because he's upset for himself. I watched his monologue. Only time I ever did it, except for when he the first thing after Kirk to watch what he said. And I'm not going to do it again. He had his chances passed. He had gone out and he lied about it. He didn't make a joke. He was vicious. He was vicious and he lied about it. And he said that it was a MAGA person. It was one of them. And even the audience in the time, they kind of didn't really laugh. They were like, uh, because he wasn't making a joke. He was stating something that was untrue. At a time before the widow and family even had a chance to put Charlie's body in the ground, he was already lying about it. That is why people were mad. People weren't mad because he made a stupid joke. That's all Jimmy Kimmel is, is a stupid joke. People weren't mad because he made a joke. No one watches the damn show. They were mad because he added to the maliciousness of the moment. Because he lied. He lied. And then he had the audacity to say this. Audio soundbite four.
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Over the weekend, a very beautiful moment. I don't know if you saw this. On Sunday, Erica Kirk forgave the man who shot her husband. She forgave him. That is an example we should follow. in the teachings of jesus as i do no you don't there it was that's that's it a selfless act of grace forgiveness from a grieving widow it touched me deeply oh my god It touches many. And if there's anything we should take from this tragedy to carry forward, I hope it can be that, not this.
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He wants that kind of forgiveness.
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Thank you for listening.
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He wants that kind of forgiveness, but he refuses to acknowledge what he did that was wrong. And let me be clear, what Jimmy Kimmel is wanting isn't just a forgiveness. He wants a reconciliation without any acknowledgement of offense. He wants a reconciliation to where you are the one. He wants reconciliation without changing his ways. He wants reconciliation so he can keep on doing things like this. Audio Soundbite 6.
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He's gunning for our journalists too. He's suing them, he's bullying them. Over the weekend, his foxy friend Pete Hegseth announced a new policy that requires journalists with Pentagon press credentials to sign a pledge promising not to report information that hasn't been explicitly authorized for release. That includes unclassified information. They wanna pick and choose what the news is.
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That's not exactly what happened either.
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I know that's not as interesting as Muslim- Here's the thing,
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Yarn again. So when he was sitting here pretending to cry about forgiveness, he was wanting he was trying to make that about him. See, I mean, she has forgiveness. And so, you know, what I did was way less worse. So you can forgive me. You know, that's what it was. He was it was like a subtle emotional blackmail. It's not working. He didn't apologize one single time. Not once. But yet we're expected to just welcome him back on air. No, we're not doing that anymore. Absolutely not. Pound sand. He's part of the problem. Rhetoric like Jimmy Kimmel's is what got Charlie Kirk killed. Because people out there get incited. Words aren't violence, but the left sure as hell believes that they are so that they can use violence to justify murdering you over your words. And Jimmy Kimmel is culpable. He is part of that problem. I mean, this... was not him asking a good faith, sincere ask because he didn't say, and yes, he needs to. He didn't apologize for lying. He keeps trying to dodge and say, well, I, you know, for a joke, et cetera. So he's still lying. He's still lying. Now his behavior hasn't changed. He hasn't learned anything about it, except he feels sorry for himself, right? I'm so sorry I went out there and lied. I'm so sorry that I added to the fire of the moment. I'm so sorry that I poured more poison into the ear of the nation's leftists at a time when we should be toning everything down. So now, partners that bring you the program, our friends over at Caltech, the PR57. It is a rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7, 40% lighter than the competition. So if you're looking to conceal carry a 5.7, this is something you should look at. They accomplish the lightness and the diminutive size in a couple of different ways. The rotary barrel, number one, it's a one-of-its-kind, redefined, one-of-a-kind rotary barrel pistol, so that contributes to it, but also the very unique way that they load. It's a top-loading design, so it replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips. So you have a slimmer carry profile, 20 plus 1 capacity. Low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. Simple, reliable magazine. And affordable, MSRP only $399. Learn more about the PR57 Chambered and 5.7 at caltechweapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man.
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Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
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Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows.
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So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan?
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What would I do if I got into an accident?
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Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
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Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
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$2.2 billion solar plant in California was turned off after years of wasted money. It was described as never living up to its promises. We're so shocked by this. Yes, it cost $2 billion. Actually, they think some. It's like an estimation. $2.2 billion.
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This facility? I don't know if you know this. This is the one that fries birds in midair. This was the one that was actually killing wildlife.
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Chicken to go. I'm kidding. I'm just kidding.
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Are you hungry?
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No. But I do hate the solar stuff. I hate all this. It makes me hate all of it. And it makes me want to just go and burn coal and use a lot of styrofoam. I'm not going to lie. So the power plant, $2.2 billion to build. Construction began in 2010, completed in 2014. Now it's going to close because it couldn't efficiently generate solar energy. Can't even make this up. And remember, Barack Obama gave it lots of money. This is Solyndra Part 2. It is. It's Solyndra Part 2. He gave it a lot of money. He gave it $1.6 billion. So, yeah, that's kind of a big deal. MLB is going to use robot umpires. This is how it starts. First, you got these robots vacuuming y'all's house. Now you've got the robots officiating your baseball games. So they are getting called up robot umpires. Major League Baseball, their 11-man competition committee, approved use of the automated ball strike system for 26. Human plate umpires will still call balls and strikes, but now teams can challenge two calls per game and get additional peels and extra innings. Challenges must be made by a pitcher, a catcher, or a batter. and signaled by tapping their helmet or cap. So we'll see how that, what do you think about that, Kane?
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I welcome it because sometimes behind the plate, it gets so frustrating when you see these umps. And let's not even bring in Angel Hernandez into this conversation.
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Yeah. Democrats handling open inquiries into the handling of the Tom Homan investigation. Remember, the DOJ was like, there's no there there. And this was the stupidest story ever. But they're trying to make something of it. They're desperately trying to make something of it. But everyone, I mean, again, these are the same people that also wanted you to believe that the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't a real thing. Look, we all think that if an elected or an official in the cabinet, if they are doing this kind of thing, nobody wants that. However... I just I need actual evidence. And so far, all I have is the level of Russiagate accusations. I'm just done with it. Democrats. OK, let's see. China floods the world with cheap exports after the after POTUS's tariffs. Like after I thought that was all they did. Yeah. Cheap exports. That's all they do. And I feel like the person who writes for the finance section over at Yahoo maybe needs a little bit more time to cook in this world before writing another story again. NASA plans first crewed moon mission in 50 years, slated for February of 2026. They said they hope to send astronauts on a 10-day trip around the moon as soon as February. They'd previously committed to launching no later than the end of April, but now they want to bring the mission forward. It's been 50 years since we've had like any kind of crewed by man lunar mission. And NASA is going to send four astronauts there and back to test symptoms to test systems rather. So that's a that's something I think we would all watch. I wonder if like SpaceX is going to be involved in all of that as well. It seems seems like that could be a possibility. Is POTUS going to the escalator? And he's just going up and then all of a sudden, it stops. And they look back. Did you see Melania jolt? I mean, that's kind of dangerous. It's weird how the escalator totally stopped working right when POTUS touched it. I mean, in addition to his mic not working, the moment that He went up to speak and then his teleprompter not working. One time, okay, that's an accident. Twice is a question mark. Three, it's a trend. Welcome back to the program, bottom of this third hour. Now consider this too. This was from the, pull this up, forgive me for a moment. It's the Times. So they said this was from last week. Here is a line in this piece of this article. And if you, by the way, if you're a subscriber over at Substack, my newsletter, chapter and verse, you have this article. The headline was, is Trump any closer to his Nobel Peace Prize? We'll see at the U.N. And it was published Sunday, September 21st, 2025. And in this piece. They note, quote, to mark Trump's arrival, U.N. staff members have joked that they may turn off the escalators and the elevators and simply tell him they ran out of money. So he has to walk up the stairs, end quote. That was on Sunday, Kane. Now, we played get this audio ready for me that you just dropped. That was on Sunday that they did that. And it wasn't just the escalators. It was also, again, the microphone and the teleprompter. And it's not, these aren't conspiracy theories. You have a left-wing newspaper citing the fact that UN staffers were openly joking about stopping escalators and messing with other things so that they could say, well, it's because you're not giving us more money. Which, by the way, the UN is an exercise in vanity. That we participate in and we pride ourselves in being so civil and we all come together and we sit around this table. But nothing ever actually gets done. It's more like a veneer. Nothing ever actually gets done. They don't ever actually do anything. It's entirely funded and done. And really, everybody else participates by the grace of the United States. That's it. And they occupy some pretty prized and expensive real estate right in Manhattan. right by the Hudson. So just saying. It doesn't sound like this was an accident. Listen to Ned Price. He was Biden's former State Department spokesperson. Listen to what he said here. Very telling.
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And on that escalator and the escalator stopped. Well, I imagine one of the reasons that escalator stopped is because his administration has withheld hundreds of millions of dollars in funding over his first term in office and during the first eight months or so of his current term to the U.N. And the U.N. itself is falling apart.
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The U.N. itself is. I mean, they've been given so much money over the years. And you know what? The U.N., it wants more money, but it does nothing to prevent the persecution of Christians. They are the most victimized religion across the globe and the most victimized religion across the globe, largely due to Islamic forces. That's true. They constantly, they don't acknowledge the truth about climate change policies and how it's designed to punish prosperous nations and then uplift nations that literally are the number one contributor to pollution in the world, which is China. They do nothing about drug trade on the open seas. They do nothing about The terrorism and terrorists exploiting the southern border. They do nothing about bioweapons. They want to sit back and let every single thing that happens in Europe or it happens in anywhere else that the United States can take care of it. They haven't done anything to help neutralize the level of Russian aggression that's mostly facilitated by the heavy purchase of Russian oil by other countries. Incredibly hypocritical, considering that there are NATO countries that purchase Russian oil. It's just very, very weird. I mean, and to say nothing of what's happening in Gaza. And then they have the audacity to demand more money. Oh, well, it's because we're not getting as many billions as we were. So he gets put on an escalator. They were actually trying to shame him. And right as he gets to start his speech, the teleprompter went out and then the mic runs out or the mic didn't work. And it was just very interesting. Again, one thing is an accident, but three things is bad. But it stopped right in the middle. I mean, the first lady, she could have fallen. I mean, if she didn't have great balance and wasn't fit, she would have fallen. If it was Joe Biden, he would have fallen on his face. You had this article that came out noting that that these UN staffers were joking about openly about turning this stuff off. Now, I think that they need to, I would like for them to, yes, I think that we should find out what did that. And if it turns out that people were sabotaging it, then I think that they should be fired, of course. I mean, I think that they should be publicly dragged, but I mean, yes, fired also with that. So I don't know. To me, it's just it's like super petty. And did they think that him not having a teleprompter was going to shut him up? Have they met him? That's like their worst nightmare, because instead of doing a short 20 minute speech, now he's going to lambast you for three hours. What were they thinking? That's not the way to do it. But I to me, I just think that it just seemed like it was they were plotting to do it and that it was on purpose. And you got the sense that it was on purpose to cane, didn't you?
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Without a doubt. You could see it because there was video of it, too, where before Trump even approached the escalator, that thing was working like a charm. No problem for the longest time. And as soon as they got right up there, it shuts off. No, I'm sorry. That's not how it goes.
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Very weird. Very, very weird. I got to say, to me, I just... I just don't believe in coincidences like that at all. I don't believe in coincidences. So it just seems like there was something to it. There was something to it. And if they're mad because the president was expecting the UN to kind of fulfill their the expectations of the investment that other leaders unwisely put in them, then that's their problem. But I mean, it's a very big problem for them. But yes, it absolutely did seem like it was on purpose. It did.
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In this episode, we delve into the concerted efforts by elements within the media to undermine the legitimacy of the United States Supreme Court. We explore the tactics being used and the broader implications for democracy. Also on the agenda, we discuss the recent attack on an ICE facility in Dallas, scrutinizing the motives and broader narratives at play. The conversation covers how leftist rhetoric has heated up, examining its contribution to recent violent incidents, and emphasizing the importance of toning down inflammatory discourse.
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liberty nation with mark angelides elements of the media are seeking to derail the legitimacy of the united states supreme court what is on the docket what can they do about it and where is it all heading find out on liberty nation radio author columnist managing editor of libertynation.com podcast host and conservative policy advocate we dismiss history at our peril liberty nation with mark angelides
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Again, this is just the most recent example of this type of attack. This will be a whole of government response. There will be no resource not utilized to bring all those individuals who are responsible to bring them to justice and to hold them.
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Wow. So this is what everybody is waking up to this morning. It is another attack on an ICE facility. And it's an attack on an ICE facility in Dallas. And for a lot of people, you might remember... This is one of, I think, when was the last one? It was like nine years ago that you had the last attempt on law enforcement, and that was when you had the attack during the BLM march, and it was, or the BLM protest, and it got really crazy. Good heavens. And so you heard some of the stuff that, There, the attack on the facility, the ICE facility in Dallas, and you have three people shot. There are two fatalities. And it is, wow. This rhetoric from the left is getting out of control. So welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this first hour. So bear with us. A lot of stuff to go through because this is all some of the latest. The there was a photo shared. And this just came in, so it might take us a second to get it up. There was a photo that was shared. I'm looking at my, for those of you who don't see, this is a giant monitor. So everybody always asks me about this, and I wanted to let you guys know that's what I'm looking at. Kash Patel had shared photos of the rounds, and the casings had anti-ice messages written on them. And the rounds that they found at the scene... had anti-ICE messages written on them. And apparently there were a few of them. Kash Patel shared one of those photos and we're gonna show it to you just so there's no question as to motive. Now you can see clearly on one of the rounds, it says anti-ICE and these were found at the scene. And this photo that you are looking at right now was one that was shared again by Kash Patel. And very, I think that we can perhaps stop with the guessing as to the motive at this point. So that is the latest. So the, again, two fatalities with this thus far. The investigation is ongoing. The killer then took themselves out. So it was, the police didn't do it, the police. killer took themselves out. I was looking at and I'm pulling up some of my notes that I was making right before I was getting ready to come on air. Because this is not the this is I mean, how many attacks came on ice facilities? Have we had recently? Well, I mean, think about this. This is Oh, my goodness. This is like this is like the second one recently just in Texas. This is the second one in Texas. Ken, you and I have been on air before, correct? I mean, and you remember this. That was like, what? Just like a couple weeks ago. There was the Alvarado, Texas ambush. This was in July 2025. And Antifa... killer, shot law enforcement, and this was an ambush attack on Alvarado. I'm very curious if it's connected to that Elm Fork John Brown gun club, like the stuff with Utah. I'm just, you know, I feel like everything is on the table at this point. This is getting out of control. Out of control. And the, again, we're going to share some examples of this because there's been this huge wave of left-wing violence at ICE facilities and officers, and this is just in recent months. So you had on July 4th, you had 11 leftist criminals that ambushed, I was just telling you about that, the ICE facility that was in Alvarado. On July 4th, you had leftists that assaulted federal agents at an ICE facility in Portland. On July 7th, you had a leftist unleash a barrage of gunfire at our KURV affiliate border patrol facility in McAllen, Texas that had dozens of rounds fired at the building agents inside. They were sent two police officers and a Border Patrol employee to the hospital. And I mean, I don't know how long this is going to keep going. How many more times? And then they wonder why they have to keep their faces covered. I... At some point, the left needs to realize that this rhetoric, and I've got another, just a quick example of this. NBC, I kid you not, this is what they had. This story has been debunked six ways to Sunday. It said ICE held a five-year-old autistic girl in Massachusetts to pressure her father to surrender. Her family says that was absolutely, it was a complete and total lie. That was an absolute lie. I have no words anymore. The rhetoric, the rhetoric is this has got to stop. And I think we I wanted to play this. This is audio soundbite 36. This is the ice facility director of the Dallas facility that was just where they had these people just targeted. This is what he had to say.
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Listen, an officer in North Texas for your support. This is the second time I've had to stand in front of you and talk about a shooter. at one of my facilities, and I think that the takeaway from all of this is that the rhetoric has to stop. There are people out there who are seeing what is being placed online, and they're coming and they're doing acts of violence against ICE employees. So that's kind of all I have for today is that it's just got to stop. It's dangerous, and people are losing their lives.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, this just continues. It continues. How many more people have to die before Democrats control their purposefully inciting rhetoric? I mean, we've got to have common sense leftist control at this point. And then don't forget the Utah assassination. And it's a common pattern now. Demonize the target. right? Demonize the target, make your rage seem righteous, and then persuade everybody that somehow violence is an acceptable form of debate or protest and is thus justified and beyond justified. They act like it's virtuous. This is an absolute, this is a pattern with the left that with the left. Not sure when it ends. But they, good on the ICE Dallas facility, the director for saying this, because somebody needs to say Democrats aren't going to be calling for their leaders to lower the tone. They're not going to call for them to lower the tone. I I it's just it's it's enough is enough at this point. Enough is enough at this point. And again, this is why they have to wear masks, because they have to worry about their lives. We're going to bring you all of the latest with this. In addition to this, we also had Jimmy Kimmel, who was back on air. Well, on some stations last night, a quarter of those stations chose to not carry his program. So he was back on air and he was not very. Well, let's just say he cried for himself and for no one else. There was no apology that Jimmy Kimmel offered. He didn't offer any kind of apology. He I wanted to play this audio soundbite one. Because if you are really if you remember, he's quoting Trump here. When Trump, when he first took the stage after he was the first assassination attempt on Trump's life, and when Trump first took the stage after that attempt, he said, as I was saying before I was interrupted, I feel like Jimmy Kimmel's making a mockery of that here. Audio Sumbite won.
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Anyway, as I was saying before I was interrupted... If you're just joining us, we are preempting your regularly scheduled encore episode of Celebrity Family Feud to bring you this special report. I'm happy to be here tonight with you.
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It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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A $2.2 billion solar plant in California was turned off after years of wasted money. It was described as never living up to its promises. We're so shocked by this. Yes, it cost $2 billion. Actually, they think some. It's like an estimation. $2.2 billion.
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This facility? I don't know if you know this. This is the one that fries birds in midair. This was the one that was actually killing wildlife.
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Chicken to go. I'm kidding. I'm just kidding.
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Are you hungry?
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No. But I do hate the solar stuff. I hate all this. It makes me hate all of it. And it makes me want to just go and burn coal and use a lot of styrofoam. Not going to lie. So the power plant, $2.2 billion to build. Construction began in 2010, completed in 2014. Now it's going to close because it couldn't efficiently generate solar energy. Can't even make this up. And remember, Barack Obama gave it lots of money. This is Solyndra Part 2. It is. It's Solyndra Part 2. He gave it a lot of money. He gave it $1.6 billion. So, yeah, that's kind of a big deal. MLB is going to use robot umpires. This is how it starts. First, you've got these robots vacuuming y'all's house. Now you've got the robots officiating your baseball games. So they are getting called up robot umpires. Major League Baseball, their 11-man competition committee, approved use of the automated ball strike system for 26. Human plate umpires will still call balls and strikes, but now teams can challenge two calls per game and get additional peels and extra innings. Challenges must be made by a pitcher, catcher, or batter. and signaled by tapping their helmet or cap. So we'll see how that, what do you think about that, Kane?
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I welcome it because sometimes behind the plate, it gets so frustrating when you see these umps and then let's not even bring in Angel Hernandez into this conversation.
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Yeah. Democrats handling open inquiries into the handling of the Tom Homan investigation. Remember, the DOJ was like, there's no there there. And this was the stupidest story ever. But they're trying to make something of it. They're desperately trying to make something of it. But everyone, I mean, again, these are the same people that also wanted you to believe that the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't a real thing. Look, we all think that if an elected or an official in the cabinet, if they are doing this kind of thing, nobody wants that. However, I just I need actual evidence. And so far, all I have is the level of Russiagate accusations. I'm just done with it. Democrats. OK, let's see. China floods the world with cheap exports after the after POTUS's tariffs. Like after I thought that was all they did. Yeah. Cheap exports. That's all they do. And I feel like the person who writes for the finance section over at Yahoo maybe needs a little bit more time to cook in this world before writing another story again. NASA plans first crewed moon mission in 50 years, slated for February of 2026. They said they hope to send astronauts on a 10-day trip around the moon as soon as February. They'd previously committed to launching no later than the end of April, but now they want to bring the mission forward. It's been 50 years since we've had any kind of crewed-by-man lunar mission. And NASA's going to send four astronauts there and back to test systems. So that's something I think we would all watch. I wonder if SpaceX is going to be involved in all of that as well. It seems... Seems like that could be a possibility. Seems like it could be a possibility. All right. So coming up, this is what we got for you. The latest on the ice attack at the Dallas facility. Jimmy Kimmel starts with no apology, nothing. And it's not good enough. We'll have all of that and more. Stick with us. So apparently we have to stop falling for the whole higher thread counting because it doesn't necessarily mean better sheets. That's fake news apparently. It's like believing that you use like 10% of your brain. So the secret isn't thread count. It's thread quality. And this is where Bull & Branch has won a lot of folks over at yours truly. They use the best organic cotton. I mean these are sheets that feel incredible like the moment you take them out of the box. So the first night that you put them on, you can tell right away that they're softer, they're cooler, and they have a great weight. It's like kind of having a five-star hotel room in your own house. And I'll tell you something else. The sheets get better every time that you've washed them. I've washed mine countless times and they just keep getting softer. You can't do that with cheap sheets because they totally fall apart. Bowl and branch, they get more luxurious. So you'll sleep better and you're kind of kind of feel like a spoiled brat, but it's okay. I'm not going to go back to the old sheets. Once you try them, you're not going to either. So if you're ready to upgrade your sleep and you should visit bowlandbranch.com slash Dana show because there you'll get 15% off your first set plus free shipping. So that's bowlandbranch.com slash Dana show for 15% off. Exclusions apply.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
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It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
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Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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Thanks for having me.
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I've been hearing a lot about what I need to say and do tonight. And the truth is, I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference. If you like me, like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion. And I meant it. I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did Point of finger. I get why you're upset. If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way. I have many friends and family members on the other side.
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OK, I'm done with him making this. Jimmy Kimmel wakes up like Candace Owens every single day and is like, how can I make this about me? I'm going to make it about me. It's all about me. Every day. I cannot stand that leftist mentality. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. I can't stand that leftist mentality because that's what it is. Let me just remind everybody. He didn't make a joke. He lied. He didn't make a joke. He went on air and he lied. He said the killer was MAGA. And then he blamed the administration for causing it and he was trying whataboutism and all of that other stuff. He said, quote, this was the comment that really set off the listeners for Sinclair and Nexstar. Quote, we hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. That wasn't a joke. Does that sound like a joke to you? No, because it's not. He lied. Jimmy Kimmel can kiss my ass. He went out there and he lied. And by the way, Andrew Colvette, the spokesperson for TPUSA, similarly has the same sentiment. Now, what would have been one thing? Look, I'm not a monster. I'm not like the left. We're not like the left because there's a purpose to what we do. We don't go out there and fight just to fight. It's all about waking people up, persuading people to come to reason. If that's not the point, then it's just all a vanity game. So we're not unrealistic. We're not impractical. We're not illiberal. There is a point to it. So it would have been one thing if Jimmy Kimmel had come out and said, you know what? When I said that MAGA was trying to characterize the guy who murdered, and he wasn't a kid, he was in his 20s, the guy who murdered Charlie Kirk, as anything other than one of them. I shouldn't have said that because it was wrong. We know that that's not the case. We know the motive of the killer. I shouldn't have said it. I lied and I'm sorry. I would have totally accepted that and this would have been a very different segment today. That would have been fine. I don't expect him to make any donations or anything like that. I just expected him to have the balls, to be honest. He's such a coward. He is such a coward. He acts like it's so brave to go on national television and lie his ass off. It's easy to do when everybody covers for you. What's harder to do is tell the truth. But he's such a partisan ideologue. He doesn't even have enough humanity in him to do that. By the way, he cries all the time. Lorraine reminded me of this last night. She's like, oh, my gosh, he cries all the time. Here he is. He's crying. Here he's crying. He cries all the time. So I don't take this seriously. He's crying because he's upset for himself. I watched his monologue. Only time I ever did it, except for when he the first thing after Kirk to watch what he said. And I'm not going to do it again. He had his chance. It's past. He had gone out and he lied about it. He didn't make a joke. He was vicious. He was vicious. And he lied about it. And he said that it was a MAGA person. It was one of them. And even the audience in the time, they kind of didn't really laugh. They were like, because he wasn't making a joke. He was stating something that was untrue. At a time... Before the widow and family even had a chance to put Charlie's body in the ground. He was already lying about it. That is why people were mad. People weren't mad because he made a stupid joke. That's all Jimmy Kimmel is, is a stupid joke. People weren't mad because he made a joke. No one watches the damn show. They were mad because he added to the maliciousness of the moment. Because he lied. He lied. And then he had the audacity to say this. Audio soundbite four.
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Over the weekend, a very beautiful moment. I don't know if you saw this on Sunday. Erica Kirk forgave the man who shot her husband. She forgave him. That is an example we should follow. in the teachings of jesus as i do no you don't there it was that's that's it a selfless act of grace forgiveness from a grieving widow it touched me deeply oh my god It touches many. And if there's anything we should take from this tragedy to carry forward, I hope it can be that, not this. He wants that kind of forgiveness. Thank you for listening.
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He wants that kind of forgiveness, but he refuses to acknowledge what he did that was wrong. And let me be clear, what Jimmy Kimmel is wanting isn't just a forgiveness. He wants a reconciliation without any acknowledgement of offense. He wants a reconciliation to where you are the one. He wants reconciliation without changing his ways. He wants reconciliation so he can keep on doing things like this. Audio Soundbite 6.
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He's gunning for our journalists too. He's suing them. He's bullying them. Over the weekend, his foxy friend Pete Hegseth announced a new policy that requires journalists with Pentagon press credentials to sign a pledge promising not to report information that hasn't been explicitly authorized for release. That includes unclassified information. They want to pick and choose what the news is. That's not exactly what happened either. I know that's not as interesting as Muslim-
SPEAKER 19 :
Yarn again. So when he was sitting here pretending to cry about forgiveness, he was wanting he was trying to make that about him. See, I mean, she has forgiveness. And so, you know, what I did was way less worse. So you can forgive me. You know, that's what it was. He was it was like a subtle emotional blackmail. That's not working. He didn't apologize one single time. Not once. But yet we're expected to just welcome him back on air. No, we're not doing that anymore. Absolutely not. Pound sand. He's part of the problem. Rhetoric like Jimmy Kimmel's is what got Charlie Kirk killed. Because people out there get incited. Words aren't violence, but the left sure as hell believes that they are so that they can use violence to justify murdering you over your words. And Jimmy Kimmel is culpable. He is part of that problem. I mean, this... was not him asking a good faith sincere ask because he didn't say and yes he needs to he didn't apologize for lying he keeps trying to dodge and say well i you know for a joke etc so he's still lying he's still lying now his behavior hasn't changed he hasn't learned anything about it except he feels sorry for himself I'm so sorry I went out there and lied. I'm so sorry that I added to the fire of the moment. I'm so sorry that I poured more poison into the ear of the nation's leftists at a time when we should be toning everything down. So no. This was not an apology. Nothing. It was pointless. It was pointless self-glorification for Jimmy Kimmel. That's all it was. So it's meaningless to me, as are his tears, because he cries over everything. He cries over absolutely everything and makes it about himself. And that's the thing. The left wants you to believe that you are the ones that are doing this to yourself. But we are the ones that are punishing ourselves. It is one of the most abusive. The left's relationship with America and the right is one of the most abusive relationships I've ever seen. Move over, Ike and Tina. This is out of control. And it doesn't just extend to this. Coming up, we're going to talk about the United Nations. I believe that, yes, they were trying to sabotage Trump. I absolutely believe that. It was not only the escalator that only suddenly stopped working when they stepped on it. It wasn't just the escalator. And there was a lot of back and forth. Well, it could have been one of the staffers that triggered something. But then there was another report where a U.N. staffer actually just disputed that. Then it was his mic didn't work. Then it was the teleprompter who didn't work. I mean, three things is a pattern at that point. But then there was the article that came out that discussed this was last week. UN staffers were joking about sabotaging the appearance by POTUS. So we're going to talk about that. We have all of the latest with this attack on the Dallas facility. The left's war on America continues. And that's exactly what it is. So we're going to dive into all of that as well. In addition, like I said, the latest with the U.N., we're also going to get into some of this. We've got some domestic stuff to touch on, too, but a lot of things to hit as we move. The folks who help bring you the program, it is the great folks over at Preborn. Preborn is a great organization that saves families. They save babies. And the issue of abortion is still super critical. You have over 60. I mean, there really were... I think, what, over 66 million abortions that occurred since Roe v. Wade. And even though Roe v. Wade, through another decision, has been undone, that hasn't changed the scale of abortions. In fact, medical, the medication that abortions, the abortion pill, the medication they give for abortifacients, that accounts for over 60 percent of abortions now. it's becoming less brick and mortar and more abortifacients pre-born offers free ultrasound services that double the chance that a mother chooses life there have been numerous studies about this when a mother hears her baby's heartbeat for the first time that baby's chance at life doubles and they partner with pregnancy clinics they provide free maternity clothes diapers counseling and support for up to two years to make sure that this this young family gets off this fledgling family gets off on the best start and they've saved over
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
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It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
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So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
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Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365.
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Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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I fear that we will not have an election in 2028. I really mean that. And the core of my soul, unless we wake up to the code red, what's happening in this country, we wake up soberly to how serious this moment is.
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You guys are killing people. That's what it is. So, yeah, I mean, he's he's the only concern for actually he's not concerned. He's adding to all of the hysteria with us. He's he's just simply he's adding to it. That's all he's doing. He's adding to the problems. I'm so tired of this stuff. I'm so tired of people like Gavin Newsom. I'm tired of the lies. I'm tired of the gaslighting. I'm tired of people like unrepentant liars like Jimmy Kimmel. I'm tired of it all. Stop with this rhetoric. Of course, you know, he's not the only one. Gavin Newsom isn't the only one out there ratcheting it up. Audio soundbite 17. Hilldog is back. Of course she is. She smells blood in the water, literally. Listen.
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Are we still headed toward a more perfect union? I think right now we're on pause. I think that people are uncertain. Some people are actually scared about what's going on in our country. The idea of we the people, that all men and women are created equal. That seems to be in the crosshairs of those on the right who want to turn the clock back on the progress that has been made, writing out huge chunks of our history, slavery, suffrage, anything inconvenient.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that's what your party was on the wrong side of, though. They have been on the wrong side of that every single time. On suffrage, Democrats opposed the women's right to vote. They campaigned against it. They beat women in the streets over it. I don't know if you guys remember this, but go back and look at history. New York City, they had a march and Democrats came out and literally beat the women in the streets for marching. That's an actual fact. Democrats have been literally on the wrong side of history for every single major event in this country. They were on the wrong side of history with slavery. They were on the wrong side of history with suffrage. They were on the wrong side. I mean, every single time they've been on the wrong side of history. It hasn't changed. They were on the wrong side of history for internment camps, Japanese internment camps. They were on the wrong side of history for all of it. The trail of genocide, wrong side of history. Not a single time have they ever found themselves on the same side of Republicans. Republicans have always, Republicans supported women voting. They supported freedom. They supported, you know, literal freedom. That's not been Democrats. Oh my gosh. And we have one with with that's I know that's even worse. I'm going to save that one because it's pretty bad, but they honestly. It seems like they're just ratcheting it up. I feel like Democrats are really trying to turn up the heat. Because not a single one of them have taken any precautions into lowering their tone. Not a single one of them. They have all ratcheted up the rage. the anger, all of them. So I don't know. I've got questions about this because I got a lot of audio and it's just random audio of different leftists, but they're all the same thing. If they really believed in, how do I put it? Lowering the tone, I guess, or turning down the thermostat, so to speak, then wouldn't their remarks reflect that? Because I just have a, I literally have a list where they're like, oh, he's, Trump's a fascist. It's basically that. They're still going with it. So coming up, we're going to dive into that. We also have some of the latest about this targeting, this attack on an ICE facility in Dallas. And this is just another and a handful of leftist attacks on ICE facilities. Second time in Dallas in just a couple of weeks. And this is... One of, I think, many now that's happened at different facilities across the country. So we're going to get into all of that. We're also going to speak with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton later on in the program because and he was already going to be coming on. And now we have this news today. So I'm he's going to have a lot to say about that. And then also the United Nations. So we had POTUS speaking at the United Nations yesterday, and there were a lot of questions as to the prompter. What else? The mic, the escalator. Yeah. And then, you know, the U.N. employees have been joking about sabotaging it last week. That was reported. Stick with us. We got the latest. We move our partners that bring you the program, our friends over at Caltech, the PR57. It is a rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7, 40 percent lighter. than the competition. So if you're looking to conceal carry a 5.7, this is something you should look at. They accomplish the lightness and the diminutive size in a couple of different ways. The rotary barrel, number one, it's a one-of-its-kind, redefined, one-of-a-kind rotary barrel pistol, so that contributes to it, but also the very unique way that they load. It's a top-loading design, so it replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips. So you have a slimmer carry profile, 20 plus 1 capacity. Low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. Simple, reliable, and affordable. MSRP only $399. Learn more about the PR-57 Chambered and 5.7 at caltechweapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 11 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Their violence is just terrible. Everybody right, left, center, I don't care what your politics are, has to speak out strongly against it. But look, I think and I don't know what's happened here and I don't know about the guns, but we need better laws on guns. I mean, we got something done a few years ago.
SPEAKER 19 :
What?
SPEAKER 21 :
But it's just rampant and we have to do more.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm not going to be disarmed by people trying to kill me. I'm not going to be disarmed by the platform, the ideologues trying to kill me guys. Not going to happen. He's like, well, I admit I don't know anything about this at all whatsoever, but gun control. How about leftist control? We need common sense leftist control. Spare me with this, Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer is one of the guys who went out there and railed against Brett Kavanaugh. You guys remember? And then how long ago was it after that? that the guy was, that one guy ended up being stopped. Well, they were not stopped. They caught him outside of, he was going to Brett Kavanaugh's house. And actually, you know what they found is that he was going to be targeting more than just, he was targeting more than just Justice Kavanaugh. He was actually gonna be going after like all of these guys. So we need common sense leftist control. Leftists need to stop getting people killed or killing them, period. Welcome back to the program. We're at the top of the second hour. It's, you know, the horror's persistent, so must we. Dana Lash with you. The chat's at Rumble. You can watch us do the radio program on Channel 347 Direct TV, and we are also on Facebook and X. So we are watching all of the latest with this targeted attack on an ICE facility in Dallas. And the killer, they've identified him. And of course, we told you how he had the anti-ICE messages written on the casings. And he, I mean, we have fatalities. You got people who are wounded. He opened it up, just shot right in their office. this individual and bringing up some of the latest on it. with this, if we can just get, it would be great if wifi, you know, actually cooperated with the live program. But he was, I don't know if I really wanna identify him because of the copycat stuff. I hate, I mean, the copycat thing is real. The victims apparently were ICE detainees and there were no law enforcement that were injured in the shooting. And he, I think the guy was just a bad shot because he had all of these ICE messages on his rounds, right? And he fired from an elevated position. It was described, by the way, the FBI, the director of the FBI field office in a press conference earlier today said that it was targeted violence. Absolutely. They did confirm it. And he was the one who first said that they had these messages on the shelves. And then Kash Patel shared a photo of it. And it was shortly after 7 this morning that it took place. And man, I mean, that's like right on I-35, Cain. How many times have I ever... I mean, good night. So the narrative that I see emerging, and if you bear with me, I'm going slow with my words because I'm actually copying and pasting the media that are doing this. It's all live. So the stuff that I'm seeing, guys... Okay, again, keep in mind, what did the guy have written on the rounds, Kane?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh yeah, anti-ice stuff.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, who do you think he was targeting with that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, definitely ice.
SPEAKER 19 :
Think he was targeting ice with that? Probably. That's a pretty safe bet, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 19 :
Pretty safe bet. So he was targeting ice. Why is it then that our media... is insisting that, and this is what I'm seeing, there are media now, they're trying to cobble together a narrative. They're trying to act like they were targeting the illegal immigrants that were being detained for deportation and not the agents, you know, because that makes sense when you consider the anti-ICE messages written on all of the rounds. That is so stupid. We're not doing that. We're not doing that media. And we're not going to let you do that. We're not doing that. This is the exact same thing that they tried after Charlie Kirk got murdered because they wanted to disassociate themselves with the Frankenstein's monster they created. And this is the same thing. I mean, where who was it? Monica, I'm going to remember her name here in just a second. She was the one who was, she actually, it might have some jail time because she was fighting, Monica McIver, LaMonica McIver. I knew it was something stupid. LaMonica McIver, geez. she was targeted for literally putting her hands on ICE agents. And she was charged with assaulting and interfering with federal officers during a confrontation. That was at the Jersey facility earlier this year. It was like in late April, May when it happened. And she actually could go to jail for some time. So you saw like actual Democrat members of Congress fight with ICE agents, literally physically fight with ICE agents. They were... screaming at them, putting their hands on them, hitting them, pushing them, all of this stuff. I mean, that's those are the people that are in charge of the party that are acting like this. Now you're surprised that their street team is taking up is making it more serious. Really? I'm not. I'm not at all. Yeah, the they they're apparently going to have more updates. But to this because, I mean, clearly there was a motive here. And this is one of the, not the first, not the second, not the third attack that we've seen on federal agents, right? Not the first time that we've seen this. This is becoming commonplace. You had the one attack in Alvaredo, which we were talking about, and that was back in July. So part of it, too, when you consider, think about some of the media rhetoric with us, like how NBC ran this false story where they were accusing ICE of holding a five-year-old hostage. Homeland Security actually had to correct them on X. NBC's never corrected their story. What are the editorial standards on this that the press has today? Are they going to go back to some sort of editorial standard? Do they not recognize the responsibility they have? I remember the New York Times. Do you guys remember all the hell that broke loose when I did a video and I held up a lighter and a copy of the New York Times? But I wasn't going to burn it. Yes, I was trolling people. I wanted to see what the reaction would be. And I didn't burn it. I'm not going to burn a paper, for crying out loud. But I held up the flame and I held up a copy of the New York Times and that was that. And then I actually turned the lighter off and closed the lid. And the New York Times falsely accused me of setting fire to their paper and all the media ran with it. But I never did that. I actually said it's not worth it. No, I'm not doing this. And I made a point of flicking off the lighter and closing. There was a Zippo flipping the enclosed and shutting the lid. The flip lid flip top. And they were, oh, Dana Lash is burning newspapers. Dana Lash is burning the New York Times. It never happened. It absolutely never happened. They outright lied about it. And they were aghast that someone would be so mean to them, that someone would be so critical of them. But then the media themselves, look what they do. False story after false story where our federal agents don't even feel safe enough to really do their jobs anymore. They're targeted. That's the reason why they have to wear masks. Because can you imagine if these leftists that are shooting them up at their jobs found out where they lived? I think that leftists would murder their families. I really do believe that. This is how far we've gotten. And don't I don't want to sit here and hear, oh, well, it's the right is shut the heck up. It is not even accurate. Y'all, we've been doing I don't know. I've been in this a while. And I noticed that the people who are like, OK, well, it's you know, it's enough. That's got to stop. Right. You need to calm down to anyone who's even remotely on the right that's ever said that. has had the luxury of warming their hands by the fire of other patriots' work for a really long time. A lot of these people that are urging that have their platforms because a lot of us went out there and defended their right to have their platform and say their stupid opinions. And they live on the indulgence of our activism. They're welfare patriots. And then they want to go out there and tell you, oh, well, you know, it's both sides-isms. No, it's not. It's coming from one way, one way only. And if it's not directed at conservative activists, then it's directed towards ICE agents. It's directed towards law enforcement. Never forget, nine years ago, you had a leftist at a BLM protest shoot up a bunch of Dallas cops. I was actually supposed to be in that building that night because that's where Fox has their bureau. And I ended up getting bumped for a senator. And I was so grateful because ordered hot wings and was sitting down at home and I had the TV on in the background. And then all of a sudden it was all that stuff. And I was in shock when I realized that the columns that the cops were hiding behind as the suspect opened fire. Those were the same columns that I had to walk through. And everybody who does Fox in Dallas has to walk through to get into the bureau. Yeah, and they murdered police officers. It was an angry leftist at a BLM protest, murdered cops. The media has a responsibility to be accurate in its reporting, but clearly what we've seen is that they've abandoned that in favor of activism, and then they're shocked when people react like activists. Fascinating that, isn't it? Hillary Clinton still, oh, she had to speak out about it. Of course she did. Hillary Clinton, what was this, an interview that she was giving? This is audio sound. Let me pull this up. I got this up here. I got a million things up right now. Scroll down. We have a million cuts of audio. Ooh, you know what? The 14. Yeah, let's do 14. Let's start with that.
SPEAKER 25 :
That raises a larger question. I mean, we have and I include myself. We have got to stop demonizing each other. Yeah. Now, I think most of that right now in our country's history is coming, you know, from the right, coming from people who want to dominate. They want their point of view there. Right. You know, writing out slavery from history that doesn't make it go away. You know, we have got to stop with the finger pointing and the scapegoating. We can have legitimate disagreements. Right. Right. I mean, how do you provide quality, affordable health care to everybody? Let's figure that out. How do you deal with what's going to be job loss from AI? Let's get working on that. You know, that's what we should be doing, but we should do it. In the truth-based reality that we have to live in. Facts and evidence have to matter again.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, this is already, I can't handle any more of it. I stopped listening. I'm going to be honest with you. I stopped listening when she was like, well, and it's coming from the right. I just can't listen and take you seriously anymore. That's it. Not at all. It's not coming from the right. Hasn't been what we've seen. It hasn't been the truth. Hasn't been in statistics. None of it. That is not coming from the right. There is a contagion. You know, I was reading this piece that was Dr. Joseph Satney, he's a psychiatrist in Topeka, Kansas. And he was saying that the more people see these things, the more they tend to increase. Clinical experience does suggest a sort of contagion phenomenon. And a lot of them were saying the same thing after Kennedy. You had Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, MLK, RFK. It went there for a while. You had like a series of those. Then it stopped. And now here we're it's like it seems like we're seeing a lot of this now. It is assassination culture. We told you about this. As we move, the folks who help make the program possible, it is the friends at Relief Factor. If you want to have help with your everyday aches and pains, Relief Factor can help you manage it in a drug-free way. And it's all designed to help your body's healthy. inflammatory response. There have been a lot of people who have found help from Relief Factor. And as I said, all of the stuff that causes your soreness, your stiffness, your discomfort after exercise, your daily activities, Relief Factor targets that inflammation that keeps you from doing the exercise you need and enjoying the things that you love. It's 100% drug-free, research-based formula created to support a healthy response to inflammation. and decrease discomfort from exercising, aging, or everyday living, and you can help maintain healthy joints, muscles, the whole nine yards. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 95 cents a day. It's less than a cup of coffee, but don't wait because you can get the relief immediately. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF. Get that three-week quick start today for $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you.
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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 12 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick 5.
SPEAKER 19 :
And, you know, we're following the story still of the Dallas attack, and we'll have the latest on that as well coming up. The headlines, this V-shaped UFO is caught on camera. Experts reveal incredible details of sighting. That looks like a B-2. Doesn't that look like a stealth bomber? That's exactly what this looks like. That's exactly what I thought it was. It was filmed hovering over Los Angeles. I think that it absolutely is one of our secret targets. Because, you know, if it came out of Area 51, that's just a short flight away, by the way. So just saying. It looks like one of ours. But everyone said UFO. I mean, I would love for it to be aliens to the point where I'm almost inclined to believe the incredulous.
SPEAKER 12 :
Technically, it is a UFO.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, well, we know what it is. But see, that looks like a self-bomber. That looks like one of those mean things that they had flying over Putin.
SPEAKER 12 :
But those lights, though.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, what if it was a weird reflection?
SPEAKER 12 :
It could be.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, or it's a space stingray. I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I mean, I'm inclined to believe anything at this point just because it's fun. Let's see. A tech entrepreneur fell 2,000 feet on a California mountain after he reached the peak and was descending. I feel like... Because didn't Julian Sands, he went up on Mount Baldy and didn't make it down. Can we stop allowing people to... Or... Can people just be smarter about this stuff? He was knocked unconscious. He collided. He fell in a boulder. And after he awoke, a fellow climber watched him slip out of sight. He was a 45-year-old tech entrepreneur. That's, like, terrifying. What a terrifying way to go. Also, let's see. Scientists found 7,000-year-old mummies in the desert that don't share DNA with modern humans. Aliens! Maybe. It says they don't share DNA with modern humans. I'm not even going to say the name of this rock shelter in the Sahara. Takar... Takarkuri? Takarkuri? Whatever. Some rocks. They found these 7,000-year-old mummies there, and they have no idea where this ancestry comes from. And they do not even show sub-Saharan genes. That's wild. So they're studying this to try to figure out what's up. Let's see, Egypt, Pharaoh's gold bracelet stolen from a Cairo museum was melted down. People are very, very upset over that. But into what? I got questions. Stay with us. We have a lot more in store. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton next. Super Beats, the new product Super Barine targets healthy blood sugar for healthy blood sugar support and your metabolism. It is a doctor formulated unique form of high absorption berberine. And then there's an added boost of Italian olive fruit extract for antioxidant and cardiovascular support. So it's not just any old berberine. It is a unique berberine. It's been clinically studied to deliver nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. That means fewer pills to swallow. You get metabolism and healthy blood sugar support benefits in one highly concentrated, easy to swallow capsule daily. And the clinically studied form of berberine, it helps to fuel your metabolism. while minimizing GI distress. Olive fruit extract, of course, helps to support heart and vascular health. You can find both the new Super Barine and the number one best-selling Super Beats Heart Chews at Sam's Club. Stock up and save on healthy blood pressure support with $5 off Super Beats Heart Chews 90 count from August 27th to September 21st at Sam's Club. Start today. Get on the road to better cardiovascular health support.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Political violence erupts again as conservative activist Charlie Kirk is murdered while speaking on a college campus. How do we fix this evil insanity? The media get mad at the right for pointing out they completely ignored a grisly murder because it doesn't fit their narrative. And a sitting U.S. Senator really thinks our rights come from the government. I'm Greg Karumbas, inviting you to join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the 3 Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the top news, usually some good laughs, and we'll be done in less than 30 minutes. Follow the 3 Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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SPEAKER 26 :
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence. It is unfortunately just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence to include here in North Texas, where back on July 4th, we saw a coordinated attack carried out against an immigration detention center in Alvarado, Texas. What I can also share with you is that early evidence that we've seen from rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages that are anti-ice in nature. Again, this is just the most recent example of this type of attack. This will be a whole of government response. There will be no resource not utilized to bring all those individuals who are responsible to bring them to justice and to hold them accountable.
SPEAKER 19 :
So this is the agent in charge from the FBI field office in Dallas laying out the latest from this killer who targeted an ICE facility in Dallas right off I-35. We drive past this place and now we've got fatalities. And this is the second attack in a couple of weeks in Texas against an ICE facility, one in a series of attacks on ICE facilities from around the country. What news? Our guest, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins us now. And he was scheduled to come on with us today. And of course, we all woke up to this horrific news. General, it's so good to be with you today. I just wanted to get your thoughts on what happened this morning.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, obviously horrible. And anytime there's loss of human life, there's totally unnecessary. And what we're seeing is just what the special agent was talking about, just an attack on our ICE officials and border officials. who are just trying to do their jobs, protect American borders and remove illegals. It's pretty horrific way to deal with somebody you disagree with.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, completely. And I feel like, too, that I think it's safe to say, especially, you know, finding out what we did as to the messages on the casings or on the rounds that they had, as well as, you know, some of the other stuff that they've alluded to with this killer incident. This is at what point, first off, or what point are Democrats going to take responsibility for the rhetoric? I mean, you had LaMonica McIver, who is arrested and was charged. She's I mean, she could go to jail for fighting with ICE agents. You've had Democrats tried to raid and trespass and bust in on these ICE facilities. At what point are they going to tone down their rhetoric? Because this is becoming a real problem. It's a trend.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I don't know that they're going to. It's pretty sad that they don't see the connection between what they're saying and they're attacking these guys and some of what's going on today. I don't see them taking responsibility at all. They haven't done it in the past. I don't think they're going to do it in the future. And it leaves a lot of our law enforcement people exposed to harmful activity, including potentially losing their life. So it is sad that there is no recognition of this and there's no speaking out. I mean, they should at least condemn this and say that this is not an appropriate way to deal with our disagreements.
SPEAKER 19 :
And General, you know these ICE agents are doing the job of laws that have been on the books for a long time.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, there's no doubt. And for decades. And all they're doing is executing on their job. They're required by law to do it. Their constitutional role, the president's doing his job, obviously, and they're being attacked by fellow Americans for just doing their jobs, which is, you know, it's a sad state when people are losing their lives. And I know that we had no law enforcement officials harmed, but we did have loss of life. And no matter what, it's a tragic day.
SPEAKER 19 :
You already had Senator Chuck Schumer general for those joining us, talking to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. We already had Senator Chuck Schumer immediately try to invoke gun control with. We don't really know anything about the suspect or weapon or where he got it. I mean, we know about the rounds and that's about it. I get nervous when I hear politicians say that, especially in Texas, because we have a senator who immediately goes to gun control and worked with the Biden administration to create a gun control commission. And I just kind of wanted to get your thoughts on that, because I don't want to disarm when the left is killing conservatives.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, there's no doubt we had Democrats and obviously you mentioned Senator Cornyn who restricted gun ownership based on attacks like these. The reality is it is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in life. When you think by passing a gun law that somebody like this is going to follow a gun law and not kill somebody. So all you're doing with restrictions on gun ownership is restricting people who are law abiding who want to protect themselves from people just like this. So there's not a more ludicrous argument that I can think of than to say, oh, we'd only had more more restrictive gun laws, Chuck Schumer or John Cornyn, that somehow things would be better because these people would follow a gun law even though they won't follow the law against killing people.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, exactly. You know, speaking of this attack and what we've seen in Alvarado and others, you know, you and I, we saw each other at the memorial for our late friend Charlie Kirk just on Sunday. And I know you came out with this statement. You announced an event with Houston area students who were targeted by a radical activist group. for starting a Turning Point USA chapter. And for those who don't know, this woman began doxing TPUSA students, some of whom were not legal adults, targeting them because they started a TPUSA chapter. General, tell us about this because you've had it clearly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, this is pathetic. You've got grown adults attacking students, trying to out students and people who are merely trying to express themselves under the First Amendment. And somehow they view that as something really negative. So they attack these students, they attack the parents, the teachers and try to. publicly expose them, potentially put them at risk because they're merely trying to establish a chapter where they can express their views freely. It's un-American. This country is built on the First Amendment. Whether we agree with people or not, they have the right to express themselves as long as they're not expressing harm towards somebody else.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't know if there's, you know, what can be done about some of this stuff, because I feel like, you know, my thought is Violence is violence. Words aren't violence. But the left definitely wants to use violence to target us for the words that we say. How are how do we deal with things like that, especially when the side that it seems to be coming on has coming from has no interest top down in in preventing this or or chilling the tone themselves? I'm just I think a lot of us are kind of struggling with how to respond to stuff like that. I mean, I think that what you've done in announcing your support for this and putting some muscle behind these students obviously helps. But what would you tell Republicans? What do you see that's missing for them to do?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we need to speak out more. We need to do it boldly. We need to do it courageously. We need to do it at maybe risk to ourselves. We need to do it not one by one, but we need to have masses of common sense, even common sense Democrats who will realize that these students have every right to put this organization together and have their own views. If people don't speak out, if they think like, oh, we just limit these students because we disagree with them, you know, someday that'll be used against them. So it is pretty important if we want to have a constitutional republic where we are free to have our own fundamental rights like worship and like free speech and political speech. We have to speak out. We have to protect it because if you look at governments around the world, for the most part, they don't allow that. They silence you. They punish you. They put you in jail or they outcast you. You lose your job. Even in supposedly democratic countries, that happens. So it's pretty important. And that's why I'm going down there tonight to speak out with these students and to stand with them because I think it's really important to defend this fundamental right.
SPEAKER 19 :
For those who don't know, the attorney general's meeting with Stratford High School students, because this is the group of students and two of the teachers where they were targeted for this from creating this turning point chapter. It was a spring branch ISD campus. And you're meeting general with these students. What are you going to tell them tonight?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm going to tell them, first of all, I appreciate them. I appreciate their courage because I know they've been threatened. I know they've been they've been bullied. And, you know, it's got to be tough. It's tough enough for adults to stand up without with courage. But one of the things that I think is Charlie Kirk's legacy is that we both know, having been there and known him, is that we can't back down. We have to stand up with courage. It cost him his life. But his legacy of promoting that transparency and promoting the free exchange of ideas and promoting conservative beliefs like free speech, which are fundamental to this country, I think it's really important that we don't let him down now that he's gone and that his message continue on. And that's what I want to be a part of.
SPEAKER 19 :
I wanted to ask you, General, too, with the president designating Antifa as a terror group, what are steps that attorneys general like you can take that maybe can trace some of the money for this? Because all of these groups, we all know they are getting paid. They are so well funded. Are there plans? Are you looking at this right now?
SPEAKER 09 :
So different attorney generals have different powers. Some have the ability to prosecute crimes. My office does not have that ability. We can seek out investigations, but typically we have to get a referral from a district attorney. That's one of the weaknesses in Texas system because I've always believed our legislature, as I'm leaving this office in a year and a half, they should give the authority to the Attorney General to investigate crimes and prosecute crimes because many of our cities are controlled, and most of our population is controlled by George Soros DAs who are not going to do that. So I think it's really important that we look into groups like Antifa, understand where their money is coming from, and if they're using that for illicit purposes or dangerous purposes, we should protect ourselves from that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, absolutely. Because we've seen, gosh, they are so well funded. And as you just mentioned, those George Soros DAs, that actually shocks me because I especially in Texas, because you got, you know, Soros funded DAs in Austin, you got Soros funded DAs in Dallas and Houston and every major city. And they're not going to they're not going to look at any of this stuff there. For instance, they wouldn't look at was there. I mean, who was supporting this guy who was supporting, you know, the the the protests where you had Dallas cops that were ambushed nine years ago? Or a lot of these attacks on ICE facilities where people are traveling around the country to go and attack these things. I mean, there are a lot of questions coming up. It's asinine to me that you don't have your office lacks the authority to do that.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's no good reason for it other than the pressure from the district attorneys. And there are plenty of district attorneys in some of the smaller counties or the non-rural counties that do a great job. But they've all aligned to stop any kind of passage of law that give the Attorney General of Texas the authority to have concurrent jurisdiction. That doesn't mean we take over. It means if things are not getting done, we can step in. Why would anybody be opposed to that? They fight it. I've tried to get authority to do certain things that are not getting done, human trafficking and other things. voter fraud, and I get fought by the DAs at every turn. And the legislature typically sides with the district attorneys. And this is a Republican legislature that is allowing George Soros maximum power to create trouble in our state. And he's doing it at a relatively low cost to him, but he's doing it at a very high cost to us. Our legislature is not being responsive to that.
SPEAKER 19 :
They are not indeed. And I'm glad that you're calling them out for it. Attorney General Ken Paxton, so appreciate you going down and meeting with those students in Houston because God knows that they need it. And I think that they're really they're really going to be blessed by that. I'm so glad you're doing it. And thank you for it was so good to see you at the memorial. And thank you for just, you know, being a champion of freedom. We appreciate you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you for having me on. And I admire these students. And that's that's the reason I go stand with them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. God bless you, General. Good to talk with you. Attorney General Ken Paxton of the Great Republic of Texas. Folks, we've got more on the way as well. We'll have all of the latest, any latest developments from that ICE facility attack. Also, Kimmel and a lot more as we move. The folks who will bring you the program, our very good friends. As we move, our partners that help make it happen. Look, I'm always about diversifying your weapons array. I believe, I mean, I carry, I carry all the time and I have no problem in throwing lead everywhere. towards any kind of threats to me or my family. That said, I also completely understand that you've got college kids that are not old enough to carry, although they're old enough to go and serve overseas and carry full auto, they're not old enough to carry here in defense of their lives when they're under 21 but yet living on their own going to college. Or maybe you're going to a place where municipal and local restrictions are disarming you. This is why I say diversify your weapons array. Burna can be a part of that. Burna gun shoots chemical-irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. Now, There's two different versions. The SD, the CL, which stands for Compact Launcher, that's the smaller version of the SD. Now, compare this to regular stun guns. You've got maybe one or two shots, but with the Berna CL, it's 15 round shot capacity per cartridge. So this is something that is a defensive tool for you to use when your other options are unconstitutionally restricted. It doesn't care about gun-free zones. There's no background checks, no permits, and it can be sent right to your front door so it's accessible for everyone. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. Get your hands on the new Burna CL. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you. It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 19 :
I wanted to come back to this because we ran out of time for this one yesterday because it was such a weird story. It was the silly string one where it was a. florida escort who was arrested because she attacked a dude with silly string well the other article that i found said because i'm like if this guy literally filed like a battery charge because of silly string then he deserves to get attacked i just felt like that was stupid but he had a forehead laceration so i think it was just more than the silly string itself it sounded like she also hit him with the can so Yeah. The lady, the female was arrested for battery, changed that up and spent the night in jail. She bonded out for a thousand dollars. But yeah, they that that's what ended up happening with that. So I wanted to, you know, wanted to run that down. A Florida man attempted a cell phone drop via drone to a Sandstone prison inmate. OK, guys, mayor, it's Mayor Kingstown. Not you can't not everything that you see in television is going to, you know, like they have drones that drop phones and drugs in the jail. You can't do that. That's TV, y'all. It's not going to work. But this Florida man. Jose Moncada, he's 39 years old, was charged with introducing contraband into jail. And apparently, according to Pine County Sheriff's Office, the deputies responded to a drone that was flying over the institute, the prison. And they said there was an object attached underneath it. They all saw it. So it wasn't like it was, you know, it wasn't being used. it wasn't hiding itself right it was very obvious and they watched this thing coming from a mile away bringing this phone and uh they all saw it they were recording it they had it all in the crosshairs they saw everything and then they a deputy later on initiated a traffic stop on a vehicle that was believed to have been involved with it and uh they found a black backpack in the trunk and etc etc and they arrested the guy because he had all the stuff to for the drone so uh they uh And they found the drone controller, cell phones, bubble wrap, all that stuff, and a pay stub. Like, he kept his pay stub for doing this. So he was taken into custody, obviously. Goodness. If Florida Maine illegally killed 13 American alligators, say wildlife officials. Brevard County, he's facing charges after wildlife officials say he illegally killed 13 American alligators. An arrest warrant for 21-year-old Jacob Latrelle of Edgewater says it happened over the course of several days in the St. Johns River. Near a boat ramp. They said that an illegal killing, possessing or capturing of an American alligator is a third degree felony, which answers my question of I keep seeing these alligators and clothes and like little T-shirts being carried around by people in Florida. Can I do that? No. The answer is no. That's a third degree felony, as I just found out. So a South Florida man. Oh, oh, he chose violence today. He torched the clubhouse of the Enforcers Motorcycle Club. Oh, boy. This guy's 47. Did you see his mugshot?
SPEAKER 12 :
I did.
SPEAKER 19 :
Dude, 47 year old man. He's he I think he probably wants to be in prison at this point, does he? Maybe not on the street so much. Yeah, this is some death wish stuff. So he set fire. He's there. They're saying he's facing charges in connection with arson at the clubhouse for the Enforcers Motorcycle Club in Palm Beach County. They said that he faces one kind of second degree arson, burglary, property mischief, etc. No motive has been disclosed. But I would imagine that he probably is like, yes, please take me to jail. I'll burn something else down if you try to let me go. Yeah, I mean, it's literally, like, try to think of the meanest name for your biker club. The Enforcers pretty much is it. Like, you couldn't pick the Kittens and Sunshine Motorcycle Club, their clubhouse to burn down. You pick the Enforcers. Just saying. Dude, you bought the ticket, now take the ride. Stick with us. We've got more. Third hour.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, they had, we had a 15 year old disabled kid in Los Angeles was waiting for his sister to come out of high school and they pulled out guns on this kid. They pulled out guns and handcuffed this young child. That's happening in the United States of America. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars. People disappearing. No due process. No oversight. Zero accountability. Happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism you're being hyperbolic? We're being hyperbolic. If you're a black and brown community, it's here in this country.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gee, I wonder where the rhetoric for all of this is coming from.
SPEAKER 18 :
Mystery.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I wonder where all the rhetoric is coming from for this. It's a real mystery, Cain. Yeah. Because when was this? I'm actually looking this up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Last night.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, gosh, this was last night. I thought it was the night before last.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, last night.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wow, it is last night.
SPEAKER 12 :
On Colbert's show.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, well, look at that. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. And we are at the top of this third hour. Of course he was on Colbert. That's why, because nobody watches it. Nobody watches it. That's why. Good heavens. Yeah, nobody's, nobody, people are shocked. Nobody's shocked. Is he going to, I mean, now the next, very next day after Gavin Newsom says this, look what happens in Dallas. Now look what happens. Look what happens in Dallas after he says this. I think there's a cause and effect here. I mean, if you say this kind of stuff enough, people are going to react to it. If they think that it's so bad as this, when you have lawmakers out there like, they're literally Nazis. They're fascists. And they think about the reason why they do this. They do it because they can't, they don't have any way to debate. They don't have any way to debate at all whatsoever. That's why. Hmm. The chat's at Rumble. You can watch us do the radio program on Channel 347, DirecTV. I got to tell you, can I just do a little aside? So every now and then, if I get a spam number, if they spam you, it's kind of horrifying. Someone texted and they were like, it was a number I don't recognize. Look, I've always been, like, level yellow. But considering everything that's happened recently, it's a little heightened, okay? And I just... I have no time for courtesy. And I always, the spammers and the scammers out there that try to get people, I just want to take them and drag them into a descent of infernal madness when they text or anything. So I had somebody who, what did they say? Let me look at this. No, no, no, it wasn't a barbecue. It was a barbecue party because that's something normal Americans say. Would you like to come to my barbecue party? Tell me that you're not American without telling me that you're not American. And so I sent a picture of Saturn devouring his son and said, nom, nom, nom, tasty. I can't wait to nosh on your soul. You can show the image real quick if you want. This is literally what I sent to this person. And I...
SPEAKER 24 :
I almost don't want him to show it.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, no, no. It's an actual painting. Okay? It's actual artwork. It's horrifying. Okay? It's not horrifying. It's Saturn devouring his son.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wait. It's not horrifying?
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, not that badly. It's a... It's a Goya painting. It's Francisco Goya. He's a Spanish artist. I mean, it was done in the 1800s. He's a brilliant painter. And he painted, there's a lot of depictions of this, but this one was perhaps the most horrifying of Francisco Goya. So throw that up on the screen. It's okay. Throw it up on the screen for the people. All right.
SPEAKER 18 :
Give him a second.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Juan's like, dear heavens. He's also horrified by it.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, my gosh. He has to do a little censoring of it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so I can see in the monitor he has to censor out the butt of the sun being eaten by Saturn. I love what we do. We wake up. What does Juan tell us? Like, what did you do today at work? Well, I had to censor the butt of this famous Goya painting is what I had to do. um but i just i just have no patience for scammers so this is what i sent the person and i said nom nom nom i can't wait to eat your soul and um god that's what i said so we'll see i just feel like they're you know i just want to pick a fight that's all i want to do i just want to pick a fight i just just saying just have no patience for this stuff like i've all the times to start trying to scam or fish people You know, so we'll see. They haven't said anything yet. So that may have done the trick. But then I did sign their number up for a ton of spam. You know, you can do that online. You can just like submit someone's number and then it just ruins their number. They're never going to get their number off of all these lists. And there's like sites where you can sign their number up. And it's it's yes, it is petty. Uh huh. That's the point. And you and they can get like hundreds of text a minute and it'll just destroy them. So good luck with that. There's a saying, that's what happens. Buy the ticket, take the ride is all I'm saying, right? I had to share that a little bit with you because I thought that Cain would appreciate that beautiful artistic rendering of Saturn devouring his son. It is a horrifying painting. It's like Munchian levels of despair, but it's pretty interesting. All right, so we've got... A couple of things I'm looking at that I want to play all at once. Is the left, now that, well, I don't want to say he's back on air. He's back on air on some stations, but not everywhere. All of them, because Sinclair and Nexstar have said they are not interested in airing the program. And of course, like clockwork, Democrats now want to use government to go after Sinclair and Nexstar right after they were screaming about free speech, which just goes to show you that this was never really about free speech and they don't care about free speech. So what to do? They now they're going after Nexstar and Sinclair. They want to go after Nexstar and Sinclair because they're not airing their precious baby of Jimmy Kimmel's show. And Sinclair had required an apology, which apparently Kimmel didn't want to give, just like he didn't give it in his monologue last night. And for all of the left screaming about Nexstar, Free speech and my First Amendment. And someone told me, you know, mocking it like that actually is a discredit. You know, it's a disservice to the First Amendment. No. Sensitive. No. Actually claiming First Amendment violations are what when there aren't any. That's what does a disservice to the First Amendment. But remember what the left did over coronavirus misinformation and the shutting down of accounts. Well, Jim Clyburn in Audio Soundbite 22 says that Democrats were right then. Oh, they were totally right to violate free speech. Listen to this soundbite, Audio Cut 22.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I don't think they're the same. It's simply because Biden, if any of this took place, These weren't jokes. This wasn't a TV show. This was a pandemic. And we didn't need to have misinformation going out about this pandemic. There was enough coming from the president at the time. Put Clorox in your veins. That's the kind of foolishness.
SPEAKER 19 :
He never actually said that ever in his life. He never, ever said that in his ever loving life. He never said inject chloro. He never said that. How many times do we have to debunk that? How many people out there were eating Tylenol like there was no tomorrow? There were women yesterday who were taking videos of themselves eating Tylenol. Like while they're pregnant, like you're weaponizing your pregnancy to own Trump. Parent of the year there. These people, can you believe that they have more rage than they do a sense of self-preservation? I've never seen that before. You don't see it in nature. It's very weird. You don't, they, Tylenol literally said, I'm pulling this tweet up because there was a, yeah, they, the, well, the post that she actually deleted her original post, but Tylenol said, we don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns today. interesting so all these women wait but i saw kane tons of videos of women eating aspirin yeah eating tylenol like specifically tylenol they were holding the pills up and making sure they showed you their belly tons of videos i mean it would belabor the point to air like all of this and they were eating tylenol okay so wait maybe the tide pod warning was necessary I kind of think that maybe the Tide Pod thing was necessary for this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Let me ask you this. Even if there was a 0.05% chance of something happening to your baby negatively by taking Tylenol while you're pregnant, would you go out there and...
SPEAKER 19 :
hate trump more than you love your baby and actually eat a bunch of tylenol while you're pregnant you're talking about women who would rather abort their babies than be inconvenienced so i don't know audio somebody 35 or cut 35 this is uh and like one example there's like so many of these out here this is just one she's an md they really yeah oh boy 28 weeks pregnant you know what i'm gonna take
SPEAKER 13 :
So, let's have a look. Let's see the minute thing. It's going to work like a charm. And my baby won't have autism.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, nobody's... I'm stupid. Wow. Can you believe these women? Look at this hemlock. I'm going to take some hemlock. Look at this. Owning Trump. Look at me. One of my friends had said something to me like, if you didn't have to issue like a hot take about this issue, if you didn't have to give an opinion on this particular issue because you don't work in an industry where giving opinions or commentary was a requirement of your job, why would you do something like this? What in the hell is wrong with these people? Random everyday people who are like, yeah, well, look, uh-huh. And then they record themselves doing stuff like this. I mean, I hope her baby's okay. Clearly that baby's going to need prayers. But because the mom looks like she's, you know, just petty as all get out. But what is the point of doing this stuff? Look, I did this. These are... So wait, they... I just can't expect any kind of intelligence or consistency from these people. Guys, I regret to inform you that that was just one of like a ton of these videos. There was a woman, though, who was like, I don't think she swallowed them all, but she was like chugging from the bottle. Pregnant. Not making it up.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7, 365.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 12 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, here. So, first up... A man hid in a kid's room for 10 days, according to KSL TV. This is like, oh my gosh. I just want to read the story. I don't want pop-ups. Jeez. KSL TV, get rid of your stupid pop-ups. It's 2025. Police were called to a home in Bluffdale because an 18-year-old was reportedly hiding in a young girl's bedroom. She was 12, by the way. 12-year-old girl. 18-year-old was allowed into the home by the 12-year-old girl living there. He did not have permission to be at the residence. He was removed from the premises. And I get it seems like she ran away with him, but he got charged with six felonies related to the sexual abuse of a minor. He was like hiding in her room for 10 days. And then that's kind of dude. She's too young for you, bro. She's just no. A man got his head stuck in a traffic light after crashing into it. That sounds painful. It was in China. He sped. For he was speeding ahead, went through this traffic light and spent an hour with his head stuck through it after he crashed into it with an electric scooter. And it was apparently on captured on there like CCTV, which the CCP has everywhere. But first responders spent 40 minutes cutting away the metal casing to safely release his head. I cannot even imagine. That's insane, but it happened. A tractor trailer crashed and spilled beer on I-95 in Pawtucket. Oh, my goodness. What kind of beer was it? Because it was just like some Bud Light. They're just scrubbing the road. It was on the I-95 in North Pawtucket early Monday morning. Rhode Island State Police said the truck, which was traveling from Jersey to Massachusetts, lost control before the overpass and hit the right barrier. It was carrying cases of beer. 99 bottles of beer on the road. 99 bottles of beer. So they said the overpass itself was not hit. No structural damage. Nobody actually knows what caused the crash, but all the beer was everywhere. Sad. So sad for beer. Let's see. Michelob Ultra now overtakes Modelo as the best-selling beer. Really? I didn't know Modelo was that popular. That kind of shocked me. And guess who's opening up more toy stores? I mean, I just gave it away. Toys R Us. They're announcing they went bankrupt and now they're opening stores. They're smaller than the original, but it's old school toys. Stick with us. More in store.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan & Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said $20 billion won. $20 billion is an insane number.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan & Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably the easiest way is dialing Pound Law. That's Pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24-7-365. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dan Morgan from Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
Is POTUS going to the escalator? And he's just going up and then all of a sudden, it stops. And they look back. Did you see Melania jolt? I mean, that's kind of dangerous. It's weird how the escalator totally stopped working right when POTUS... touched it I mean in addition to his mic not working the moment that he went up to speak and then his teleprompter not working I'm one time okay that's an accident twice is a question mark three it's a trend welcome back to the program bottom of this third hour now consider this too this was from the pull this up forgive me for a moment it's a it's the times So they said, this was from last week. Here was a line in this piece of this article. And if you, by the way, if you're a subscriber over at Substack, my newsletter, chapter and verse, you have this article. The headline was, is Trump any closer to his Nobel Peace Prize? We'll see at the UN. And it was published Sunday, September 21st, 2025. And in this piece, They know, quote, to mark Trump's arrival, you and staff members have joked that they may turn off the escalators and the elevators and simply tell him they ran out of money. So he has to walk up the stairs. End quote. That was on Sunday, Kane. Now, we played get this audio ready for me that you just dropped. That was on Sunday that they did that. And it wasn't just the escalators. It was also, again, the microphone and the teleprompter. And it's not, these aren't conspiracy theories. You have a left-wing newspaper citing the fact that UN staffers were openly joking about stopping escalators and messing with other things so that they could say, well, it's because you're not giving us more money. Which, by the way, the UN is an exercise in vanity. That we participate in and we pride ourselves in being so civil and we all come together and we sit around this table. But nothing ever actually gets done. It's more like a veneer. Nothing ever actually gets done. They don't ever actually do anything. It's entirely funded and done. And it really everybody else participates by the grace of the United States. That's it. And they occupy some pretty prized and expensive real estate right in Manhattan. right by the Hudson. So just saying. It doesn't sound like this was an accident. Listen to Ned Price. He was Biden's former State Department spokesperson. Listen to what he said here. Very telling.
SPEAKER 24 :
on that escalator, and the escalator stopped? Well, I imagine one of the reasons that escalator stopped is because his administration has withheld hundreds of millions of dollars in funding over his first term in office and during the first eight months or so of his current term to the U.N., and the U.N. itself is falling apart.
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The U.N. itself is. I mean, they've been given so much money over the years. And you know what? The U.N., it wants more money, but it does nothing to prevent the persecution of Christians. They are the most victimized religion across the globe. And they're the most victimized religion across the globe, largely due to Islamic forces. That's true. They constantly, they don't acknowledge the truth about climate change policies and how it's designed to punish prosperous nations and then uplift nations that literally are the number one contributor to pollution in the world, which is China. They do nothing about drug trade on the open seas. They do nothing about The terrorism and terrorists exploiting the southern border. They do nothing about bioweapons. They want to sit back and let every single thing that happens in Europe or it happens in anywhere else that the United States can take care of it. They haven't done anything to help neutralize the level of Russian aggression that's mostly facilitated by the heavy purchase of Russian oil by other countries. Incredibly hypocritical, considering that there are NATO countries that purchase Russian oil. It's just very, very weird. I mean, and to say nothing of what's happening in Gaza. And then they have the audacity to demand more money. Oh, well, it's because we're not getting as many billions as we were. So he gets put on an escalator. They were actually trying to shame him. And right as he gets to start his speech, the teleprompter went out and then the mic runs out or the mic didn't work. And it was just very interesting. Again, one thing is an accident, but three things is bad. But it stopped right in the middle. I mean, the first lady, she could have fallen. I mean, if she didn't have great balance and wasn't fit, she would have fallen. If it was Joe Biden, he would have fallen on his face. You had this article that came out noting that that these UN staffers were joking about openly about turning this stuff off. Now, I think that they need to, I would like for them to, yes, I think that we should find out what did that. And if it turns out that people were sabotaging it, then I think that they should be fired, of course. I mean, I think that they should be publicly dragged, but I mean, yes, fired also with that. So I don't know. To me, it's just it's like super petty. And did they think that him not having a teleprompter was going to shut him up? Have they met him? That's like their worst nightmare, because instead of doing a short 20 minute speech, now he's going to lambast you for three hours. What were they thinking? That's not the way to do it. But I to me, I just think that it just seemed like it was they were plotting to do it and that it was on purpose. And you got the sense that it was on purpose to cane, didn't you?
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Without a doubt. You could see it because there was video of it, too, where before Trump even approached the escalator, that thing was working like a charm. No problem for the longest time. And as soon as they got right up there, it shuts off. No, I'm sorry. That's not how it goes.
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Very weird. Very, very weird. I got to say, to me, I just... I just don't believe in coincidences like that at all. I don't believe in coincidences. So it just seems like there was something to it. There was something to it. And if they're mad because the president was expecting the UN to kind of fulfill... the expectations of the investment that other leaders unwisely put in them, then that's their problem. I mean, it's a very big problem for them. But yes, it absolutely did seem like it was on purpose. It did. Can we talk for just a minute about why is there this obsession with the left in putting either dumb, stupid nepo babies or whatever in charge of big things? So I just saw... I'm going to get to this piece in a moment because someone apparently was jamming the radio, by the way, and Greta Thunberg's little flotilla, and they were playing ABBA songs nonstop. Did you guys read about that? Because she was doing another flotilla attempt. I don't know how many flotilla attempts this is, but she was doing another one. They were jamming their comms with ABBA songs nonstop. Cut 25. Listen.
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We don't know what it was exactly. And right now they're jamming our VHF as you can hear. They're jamming it. We do not know where this is coming from, the sound, but other vessels are experiencing the same thing. They're jamming our radio.
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That's hysterical. Now, remember, this is after they shot themselves with a flare and then claimed that they were bombed by rockets. It's a real brain trust on this. It's basically a bunch of like pool rafts all taped together and a big old brain trust floating on it. She was removed from the little flotilla steering committee last week. And so she got fired. Greta Thunberg was fired from a leadership committee for the little flotilla. It's kind of interesting, isn't it? She gets fired from it. And apparently there were a lot of problems on it. Of course, you know, the left isn't going to get along. They said that they had pressure. It's causing rifts within the committee, et cetera, et cetera. They had disagreements about external communication, et cetera. They didn't focus enough on the situation in Gaza. She's just like making, what is she going to do? She just goes somewhere and flails her arms and that's it. The left has this obsession with trying to make something of like these, like younger females. Case in point, can we just talk about, so at the UN, we just talked about the fact that you had Nepo baby, Violet Affleck. She's like 19 or 20. And she spoke at the UN. She refuses to take her mask off. She's one of those. And she went off. She sounds hysterical. She sounds like a hysterical cat lady. I don't know what's going on with this chick. Listen to this.
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Here's what we know about SARS-CoV-2. It is airborne, floating and lingering in the air. One infection can result in disabling damage to almost every cell in the body from the brain and heart to the nerves and blood vessels. Every subsequent infection increases the risk of long COVID and places people who already have it in greater danger. Here's what we don't know is what it does to reinfect children over and over and over again with no end point in sight from the day they are born. We are about to find out. As Dr. Akiko Iwasaki says, at this point, the whole population is the control group. And after only five years, long COVID has surpassed asthma as the most common chronic illness in children. Five years. I am terrified for the children who do not or soon will not know a world without debilitating pain and exhaustion, who cannot trust their bodies to play, explore.
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She's like one of these scene stars who gets an issue and she just like, you know, clings to it. This is why are we putting people in? Like, you know, teenagers speaking before the U.N. on policy. And of course, she walks around with designer bags that her parents buy her, which I just find hypocritical. She can't. By the way, this is her not being able to properly parallel park a car. I mean, you could fit another car in the space between the curb and her car. But it was for an article where she was carrying a designer bag. And I'm sorry, I just like find it hysterical. She's a nepo baby who does and contributes nothing. She wears a face mask constantly. And she she refuses to take it off for anything. She thinks it should be mandatory for everyone to have their face covered. She's one of those. She's just a it's just Ben, get your girl for crying out loud. Shut this kid up. I'm so tired of this stuff. Like we have enough stupidity in the world. These masks don't do anything to filter out any of these viruses because the the microns of the virus are so small they pass through the weave of the mask. You absolute mental abortion. They pass through the weave of the mask. This is all of us right now in response to NEPA baby Violet Affleck. We all look like this meme of Ben Affleck. He's exhausted. He's just going outside. It's just enough. It's like, oh. You do have agency over your, if my kid was going out there and showing their ass like that, I would jerk them back faster than the Sandman at the Apollo. I mean, they'd be right off that stage. Like, nah, nah, nah. You ain't doing this stuff. That's stupid. We share the same last name. Y'all ain't embarrassing me. Get the hell off this stage. There'd be no of that. None of that. I don't know what they think they're doing. Are they indulging her? Like, oh, let her get her little activism in. Well, fine. But I mean, at least make it accurate and based on actual sound science and truth, right?
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So tomorrow I'm going to talk about the premiere of this Jessica Chastain, whom I can't stand. She's a big gun control fan. A proponent. She's like really in with the every town moms demand fake AstroTurf groups. And she's she has this series called The Savant and Apple TV's postponed it. And Variety has framed it as it's an example of how business giants are running scared of the Trump administration and bowing to pressure before it even exists. OK, first off, what a sentence bowing to pressure before it even exists. So there is no pressure. So but you're going to assume that they are running scared because of the Trump administration. I can't believe that that made it past an editor. But here we are. We live in an idiocracy. Brando, it's what plants crave. And I think she's basically like she's literally a key. So her character is a keyboard Karen that's supposed to infiltrate extremist groups online of white young men. I think that the series actually was making a Charlie Kirk-like figure a scapegoat or something like that, and they realized how bad that looked and pulled it. That's what I think. Because the people who have seen some or all of the series said that's what this role is. She's literally this middle-aged suburban lady who gets online and infiltrates these groups, and it's all about her infiltrating what is characterized as right-leaning groups of white young dudes. I'm not a fan of her. I can't even watch her stuff anymore because she's just gotten so repulsive. But I... it's just kind of shocking. But I think that that's why. Don't you think so, too? Yeah. We'll talk more about that tomorrow. All right. Today in Stupidity, Cain.
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All right. This was surprising. The Mets broadcaster, Gary Cohen, was caught in yesterday's game talking about a friend, Charlie Kirk, Matt Shaw, who missed one of the games during a race. Here's what he said. This is just, to me, very insensitive.
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Shaw had Cubs world in a tizzy this weekend when he was not here for the Cubs game with the Reds. Game they lost 1-0, and in which his lack of presence was felt. It was later revealed that he had been given permission to attend Charlie Kirk's funeral. And I don't want to talk about any of the politics of it, but the thought of leaving your team in the middle of a race... for any reason other than a family emergency really strikes me as weird. Weird.
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Wow. And you strike me as a ghoul. That does it for us today. Find us at Substack, chapter and verse. Make sure you subscribe. YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Back with you tomorrow.

In this episode of Sekulow, we dive into the revelation by Google regarding the pressure it faced from the Biden administration to censor online content. The discussion emphasizes the role of government influence in shaping censorship policies on social media platforms, in particular highlighting the complexity of these interactions. The hosts underscore the importance of acknowledging this reality and address Google’s efforts to rectify past mistakes, marking a pivotal moment for free speech advocates.
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On today's show, Google admits to the push for massive government censorship.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow. Jordan is with me as well. We're going to have a packed show today. We want you to be a part of it. 1-800-684-3110. Of course, we are leading one of the top stories, which is Google essentially admitted, hey, yes, we were censoring. Yes, we have deactivated thousands of accounts, including YouTube accounts for a lot of people. We obviously knew that was happening. um because we knew well-known people some who we were representing yeah some who are now the current deputy director of the fbi dan bongino was was at one of those people oh yeah i mean a pretty big list we continually bannon we continually fought with youtube for quite a while there were many times where we had an issue with them went back and forth now in the last year youtube has actually made a pretty strong and google's made a pretty strong effort to say we were wrong and And we did this poorly. And they even put out videos saying, you can talk about life. You can talk about abortion. We're not going to censor that anymore. We're not going to. They were essentially shadow banning.
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There's been a huge shift on social media to free speech.
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So I want to give Google.
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We need to do everything we can to keep it that way.
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So I want to give Google a little bit of credit in this for saying this, but obviously the big part of it, which is what Mark Zuckerberg said now a couple of years ago on Joe Rogan, which is, yeah, we were doing this, but that is because the Biden administration was putting immense pressure on Google to censor Americans and remove content, even if that content did not violate.
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youtube policy and it scares them because they get the protection section uh 302 protection from uh lawsuits because people can post things and if people do post things they don't get you can't sue them because someone posts something horrible even after they take it down yeah that's part of the protection we have so that the internet and social media can continue to grow and they're always concerned that the government holds that over their head and here's what's key there uh the government was holding it over their head. I mean, we knew likely Google wasn't just doing this to do it policy-wise, that there was something going on. And I'm telling you, the power of the federal government because of that section. Much scarier than you think.
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Yes. In that sense of like, you think Google almost bigger than the government.
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But really, not really. Not if you take away that provision. Because then they would be open up to every time somebody puts something up that's quasi-death defamatory. Like all those videos you see of people... Plenty. Most of you, too. Places that are, say, you can't film in privacy. Yeah. they'd be in a legal mess but the big news is one they've unbanned all those accounts and made sure but two the bit much bigger news is that the Biden administration was telling them to ban the people yes I think just like they were with twitter and other accounts they were naming I think that's right because some of the biggest names obviously and then some random ones Right. They always do that.
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But when you look at this, I mean, this is what Chairman Jim Jordan, thanks to the oversight of Jim Jordan, Google commits. This is what Google commits to offer all creators previously kicked off YouTube due to political speech violations on topics such as COVID, elections, and opportunity to return to the platform. The Biden administration also, again, they pretty much admitted pressured them to remove content, even if it didn't violate them. And they said it was unacceptable and wrong. This is a big moment. I think it's something that we all need to, you know, you can't necessarily say celebrate what Google is doing because, of course, they did have to first commit these issues to get to this point. But, you know, if we're talking about moving forward here, I'm pleased with this.
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I think right now, moving forward, the big tech content where you put your creations on are much more friendly to just free speech in general. We need to do everything we can to be their friend and to keep it that way.
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Look, you're going to spawn new creators, too, because people were leaving in mass and going to Rubble, which Rubble's great. We're on there. We love them. That means good and bad.
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You're going to see lots of content you don't like, but as we've all said, that's what freedom of speech is about. There's very little speech that is illegal in the United States, and that's usually incitement. I don't want to get into all that right now because it's very difficult to prove, but They do have power because they're a private company. So the more we can keep them open and honest and keep the government out, that's why we don't want the FCC telling people either.
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These are wins for free speech. We'll get to that coming up in the next segment. We'll also talk about how the ACLJ was directly involved in this. And we'll break that down coming up. And, of course, we'll talk about Jimmy Kimmel's return. We'll get to more later on. 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to Secular. We are also following the news out of Texas, the ICE facility shooting. We know Ted Cruz was out there. We know right now that three people were shot, two are dead, including the shooter. If more information comes out about that, we will. It seems like the FBI said they're probing it as a targeted attack of this ICE facility. The ammo had anti-ICE messages in it. It just seems like another one of these horrible situations, sadly, we have to report about.
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As of right now, we were saying in the latest news, no ICE officials reported.
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Yeah, that was lazy. It was detainees.
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It was actually detainees. Is that correct, guys? That's right, right? Yeah. So again, just horrible. I mean, no one should be doing that. First of all, whatever the politics of it were, anti-ice, why would you kill the people?
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Shot into a vehicle. So maybe the thought was they were going to. Hey, I do want to play this. As we talk about this Google censorship, you said that we have a clip from Hillary Clinton. I think this is kind of a fun flashback clip. This is only from a year ago. This is not like a flashback from 10 years ago when we started talking about content moderation. Of course, look, this comes on the heels of everything that happened with Jimmy Kimmel. This comes on our involvement, even in this case specifically. Let's go ahead and hear Hillary Clinton.
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If the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are, if they don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control. And it's not just the social and psychological effects. It's real harm.
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Yeah, so I mean, it's real hard, social, psychological effects. Look, I don't disagree with that in the sense of there are real social and psychological effects in social media. You've got to be very careful in what you allow your kids to see, even what you allow in your own brain. I think we all know that over the last couple weeks.
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If you're an adult who is sane and doesn't have those issues, just don't look at the comments. I always say that. Don't read the comments, Hillary Clinton. So let's talk about, though, how we were involved in this. Yes, I want to show it to people. I'm going to hold it in my hand right now. This goes back, actually, this is a Supreme Court case that just came out. In light of all of these changes, the case kind of came to a moot point. But I want you to see it and read it carefully who the ACLJ was representing here. This is the brief, the amicus brief, representing Charlie Kirk, And some others, including people like David Harris, Robbie Starbuck. And this is your ACLJ, you know, Jay Sekulow, Stuart Roth, Jordan Sekulow, our team, Craig Partial. We were the attorneys for Charlie Kirk fighting back against that censorship because, again, those not only were we affected. But people like him, I mean, seriously affected when they had to go find other platforms. And unfortunately, he's not here for this day when not only had Google kind of already probably done this. I don't think Charlie Kirk was having issues there.
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I think in the last year, they've really done better.
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But to know that it wasn't just Google, that it was really, like Zuckerberg had said about Facebook, that it was the Biden administration threatening them. Yeah. And I think, and let me tell you something. It's not telling them, Hey, please do this. They say, Hey, please do this. Or else we might want to start looking at those exemptions you have and your immunity you have from prosecution because you know, you put this information up there and someone gets COVID and sick. Maybe we'll let that family sue you if we remove that. And imagine how many of those you could put a company like Google. Um, they'd have to, well, it would no longer be alphabet. Yes. They would have to be broken up. Yeah.
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Be broken up into many different sources. Look, I think when you look at this, um, it's not shocking, but it is shocking when you actually read it, that Google is saying, yes, this is what happened. Because even Zuck, you know, kind of like backed off. Like he said, yeah, they created a portal where they could- He did it on his own.
SPEAKER 03 :
He did it. Yeah, exactly. He went and testified on his own. He didn't require this kind of, I mean, that was what?
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Yeah, so what happened to lead to this?
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hearing congressional oversight and they just said yes and finally yes finally through that and through a court order a court decision from the district court this was the case leading up to our Supreme Court case said that the White House colluded with big tech. We know this was going on the member, the disinformation boards that they were getting rid of, but then they weren't really getting rid of their renaming. I mean, this is why we all jumped when the FCC said, oh, we're going to, you know, if they don't do it, we're going to, we're going to change this. And, you know, I think he probably overspoke. I think Pam Bonney, when she said hate speech, same kind of thing. She immediately changed that to incitement, which is the real legal issues. There's no laws on hate speech and things like that. The idea here is that the more freedom of speech, this goes into, again, why we were representing Charlie Kirk in this matter. And by the way, just kind of a reminder of where people go in those positions who have these serious reaches. What attorneys do they turn to when they could have turned to anyone? Who do they turn to when they've got an issue like this? It's the American Center for Law and Justice. And I want to make sure everybody at Turning Point and other organizations know that we are there for them. that we're not your competitor, that we are the attorneys and that we also are broadcasters. We want to make sure that you're protected too and at no cost so you don't have to turn and spend your donor dollars on millions of dollars of legal fees Our donors have provided the resources for us so we can defend you. And so if you're in those kind of matters, obviously higher profile folks probably could text us or call us. But even if you're not, Always go to ACLJ.org slash help. Our attorneys go through it every single day. And I will tell you, whether you're a small podcast and you're having issues, we will assist you. And we have been assisting people, whether it's Facebook, whether it's they can't do ads. This is the beginning of...
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Of all of this.
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And I will tell you through ACLJ Action, Logan, and through kind of our expansion work that we've done in Washington, D.C., we have better relationships with the government affairs teams of these big tech corporations. So many times we are able to get these resolved quickly without legal action. But people, if they don't tell us... And oftentimes, you know, I'll hear from people like in Facebook, they say, if you don't tell us, we don't know if the AI or the system or some guy in some other office is doing this, you know? So you've got to, don't imagine that we just know the problem. Always come to us with us and don't feel bad about it. So if you need that help, big organization, small, aclj.org slash help.
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Yeah, it's a simple form.
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If we take you on, it's no cost.
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It's simple form. You fill it out. And again, like Jordan said, whether you're a small creator or maybe you're one of these big organizations or maybe you're just, you know, you have any kind of legal help that's within our scope. You just fill that out. It doesn't go to a call center. It doesn't go to some, you know, other people that are going to then sort through it. It goes straight to one of our lawyers and they decide whether it will be something that we can take up or not. They'll get in touch with you very quickly. That's one of the best parts about our system is, yes, we are a big organization, but we're not too big in the sense you're calling into organizations. Morgan and Morgan. Morgan and Morgan. You're calling in. No offense to them. They're the biggest in that world. Yes. But you call them. You're talking to a call screener. If you had an issue with an 18-wheeler, yes. Go with them. Yeah. I don't know if you go with them. There's others.
SPEAKER 03 :
There's other options. You can go low key, you can go big, but we're saying is... There's no more to it.
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When it comes to free speech. When you call them, it goes often to a phone bank because they have so many people. This goes to a lawyer. This links you up directly with the ACLJ.
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Yes, and that's why we did it online because attorneys like to read. Because then they can call you back or email you back and say, hey, we got this. Can you provide, I've got three more questions for you. Or you said it was this person. Can you put me in contact with them? And we always try first to resolve issues without having to take actual court action. But we will still represent you. We're your representative. And you're not having, if we decide to take your case on, your situation on, and it becomes a case, at no point is there any cost to you. And let me just thank our donors for that. We can continue to do that because you donate to the ACLJ. We can continue to expand to have those relationships to resolve what will be, I think, the future we know is going to be more and more social media tech kind of issues with free speech. We have to continue building up our teams in Washington, and we can do that with your continued financial support of the ACLJ. As I always say, big or small, I never want to have to say no to a case because we think it will be too expensive for the ACLJ. So far, we've never had to do that. And that's thank you to our donors. But as these cases will always continue to be more complicated, And as the issues get even more serious, we need your financial support. I mean, freedom of speech, we know, is the topic right now and is the debate is, do we want censorship of freedom of speech or not? As you know, lawful, ugly, bad, things we don't like, things we love, it's much better to protect it all. You protect it all, that means your Christian speech, your pro-life speech, your questions about those in power, get protected. If you start picking and choosing sides, you know what happens? The other side comes in, and let me tell you, the other side, the left, a lot better, as we've already seen. They didn't have any laws or rules on the books. They just used pressure.
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Just pressure, and they'll cave to it. And also because they theoretically would probably say, oh, maybe they're on our side in this. When you have...
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What we have seen is that these tech companies, one, they're not really on size, and two, I think what they have learned is that the right, because of our views on free speech, which took them some time to, I think, understand, realizes it's much safer for them because we don't threaten to take away their status. We understand they need the ability to create with AI and things like that, and that means that sometimes the AI is going to say things that are bad and they need to fix, and that's okay if we're going to compete with the world.
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SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, absolutely. We have another case that the abortion distortion continues and it's out in California, which is not shocking. But this is a case where you had a sidewalk counselor who is just again trying to give the people that are approaching the abortion clinic options and they have the abortion clinics hire these abortion escorts. And what their job literally is to do is to interfere with the sidewalk counselors getting to any woman approaching the abortion clinic. And so in this situation, this involves a case where a sidewalk counselor was trying to talk to a woman and and the escort abortion escort gets in the middle and as she's trying to stop him from approaching there's some touch physical touching that happens and of course they file the abortion clinic files against this man and instead of going suing civilly for an injunction They go try to go around that the protections that the First Amendment applies to these injunctions. They try to go around and file a workplace violence restraining order. And then what you get with that is a myriad of restrictions on this sidewalk counselor that go well beyond what the First Amendment allows.
SPEAKER 04 :
Completely unrelated.
SPEAKER 01 :
Completely unrelated. So what actually happened here? One example is that there's a buffer zone of 100 yards. So basically a football field, which is way beyond. And what they have to do is an injunction can't burden more speech than is necessary. So that 100 yards is definitely burning more speech. But Jordan, you can tell how it goes even further in ridiculous restrictions.
SPEAKER 03 :
I want to say two things about it. One is, think about what this does to the individual to have a workplace violence restraining order issued against them when they need employment, jobs, and things like that. I mean, it's a lot different than an issue, an injunction about how close you can get to protest. But the second part, which is shocking here, this is remember in state court is that what comes with that is a three year second amendment ban. No second amendment rights for this individual. Now, did they have a gun when they were there? No. Did they have illegal firearms at their home? No. Do they have in their past any kind of gun charges, anything like that? Do we even know if they're a gun owner?
SPEAKER 04 :
No. It's just one of the,
SPEAKER 03 :
But one of the restrictions is we take away your Second Amendment rights. So because they had the audacity to protest for the unborn children being killed in those facilities, their constitutional right, Second Amendment constitutional right, not just their First Amendment right. It doesn't charge you like you're a felon. Yes before anything with the restraining order right and again that's and when you're looking at a workplace violence restraining order that's one thing and even those have been challenged in court but let's not even go there this is so again it's so typical to see in a place like California to say we're in the state court let's do something that really goes and hits hard so before we even get through the case we're going to issue a restraining order and start really taking away this person's rights. I mean, what's next? They can't vote? That's what I'm saying. It feels like that vibe. Yeah. But the issue here is that now... Freedom of speech can be tied to we don't like your speech, so we're also going to take away your second amendment. All of your constitutional rights. We'll start with first amendment. We'll work our way down. We'll go to second amendment. What happens next? So what I want to tell you is, again, there was no, I want to make it clear, no connection to a gun and the situation. I don't even know if the individual themselves is a gun owner. But they want to make that, again, part of the cases that you don't get your freedom of speech, 100 yards, which is absurd. 100 yards? By the way, you lose another constitutional right to protect your home, protect your family, if you want to, again, use, utilize that constitutional right. This should be... shocking to everyone listening right now. And it is why the ACLJ partnering with other attorneys in California jumped on this and said, we've got to be a part of this because it's one thing with just the first part, CeCe, just the restriction on speech. That's enough. But then you start restricting other constitutional rights in a state court setting. This is what I think Newsom and these others are talking about, Logan, when they say we are going to war, you know, not in the physical sense, but in the legal sense to use every option we can to to punish those we disagree with. And here it is. We're going to strip you of some of your most core, basic constitutional rights because we disagree with your speech that those children are being killed in those facilities.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, and it's a total circumvention of the First Amendment protection. That's exactly what they're trying to do. They're trying to say, we know that we can't get anything under the First Amendment because it protects his right to this speech. So we're going to now try this workplace violence, you know, restraining order. And like you said, it was a complete ban on possession and ownership of a gun, which had nothing to do with anything in this situation. So what's interesting is we have the Animal Activist Legal Defense Project join with us on this amicus because anybody who wants to use their voice to say anything, correct, you are a target now of this type of runaround of the First Amendment.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, Logan, I think this is interesting in CC2 is we saw some years where I think people were like, you know, the protester with the sign. I don't know. We even saw it at the ACLJ. People were just not as excited necessarily about these cases. Yeah, the tone changed. But I think after what happened with Charlie Kirk and we saw on campus how important freedom, protecting freedom of speech is, people have now shifted back and said, you know what? Like the message. pro-life message don't like the maybe the animal right message maybe like both some people do in the pro-life movement there are a lot of also those who are also pro-animal rights fine is that they understand wow there's a war on just speech that people don't like or that annoy people and we have to protect all of it and at the ACLJ while we typically our clients come from our viewpoint because that's who they reach out to and who we reach out to It's not always the case. We're protecting everyone's free speech right, not just those we agree with. And I think what we've learned in the last few weeks is that is the goal of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers, so that we can have dialogue that isn't nasty, that isn't angry, that we can go back to where we can go to the dinner table or have friends that are politically on the other side of the aisle and we're not afraid to even... And we don't have to... Even if we're still friends, we don't have to ignore talking about issues. And I think that... Because once we... When we stop talking, and I think people have said this, but it is true, when you stop talking and you just demonize, you get violence. And that's why the First Amendment is so important. Dialogue...
SPEAKER 04 :
actually prevents violence all right we will be back absolutely in just a minute so stay tuned we do have a second half hour coming up on the broadcast the aclj is getting involved in all this we'll also talk about how what our next steps will be i want to hear from you too at 1-800-684-3110 but if you don't get us in your local market you can find us broadcasting live on youtube on rumble on aclj.org however you get your podcasts we are there and of course support the work of the aclj this is a very important time become a champion really it's a great time to do that go to aclj.org opt in become a champion that's someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis help us take this to all 50 states all the work that we do here at the aclj and around the world
SPEAKER 09 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. Second half hour coming up and phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. My brother Jordan Sekulow is joining us right now as well in studio. And we are talking about a couple different things. One, Google saying, hey, you know what? Not only were we censoring, we were censoring those accounts because the Biden administration told us we had to or else. And they have now said, hey, If you were one of those creators that we took down time to hop back on our platform, it's time to do that. This is a big move. This is a good move by the way. Look, Google had to get to this to admit to it. We know people like Facebook and Meta earlier on admitted to this is what was happening, but I think it's good. I think it's good to have new creators that can come into the platform, not scared of what they're going to say or not say or get demonetized. Uh, Um, obviously there is common decency that we want to support, but if you go on YouTube, of course you're not necessarily always going to find that, but just as a dad and as someone who, who, who wants a good creators out there, I want people creating good stuff. Um, it's, it's good for your brains, but of course this does help, uh, in the freedom of speech side of this. And of course this is in the wake of everything that's happening, including, uh, The return to television after, what, three days off of Jimmy Kimmel Live, which of course created a huge spike in numbers. And they put a thing that said President Trump, one of his responses was, well, people are going to watch tonight. It's right. Now we'll see if people continue to watch. I watched the 30-minute monologue that was not available in our local market. what was he amongst the three where was he last okay so um last night was he he probably will be number one they haven't put out the official ratings but just on youtube the monologue has done i think close to nine million all right but like tonight do you think he goes back to being number three we'll see it was you know they've packed it with some good guests It's a very neutral guess. Last night was Glenn Powell from Twisters and Peyton Manning.
SPEAKER 03 :
People everybody loves. That everyone loves. Might as well put the Savannah Bananas on too. Exactly. But what will be interesting to see is if by next week...
SPEAKER 04 :
uh jimmy kimmel's back to a million you know third place i would love to see what people's thoughts were because i watched the whole 30 minutes i think that there were some good moments in it i think there was some not so good moments in it he's turning point turning point did not say we're thrilled with it because he didn't come back and really give them an apology he apologized to the audience said he never wanted to trivialize someone's death He did, honestly, a good moment where he got visibly emotional, whether you want to believe him or not. I can't really say one way or the other. Where all of a sudden he gets overwhelmed emotion talking about... That wasn't off the cuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
Erica Kirk. I want to make sure that people, they understand.
SPEAKER 04 :
These guys are reading teleprompters. Yeah, very scripted. And he talks about Erica Kirk forgiving Shooter. He mentioned he was a follower of Jesus' teachings. These were the words you did not expect to hear out of Jimmy Kimmel. But of the 30 minutes, I would say a good 15 to 20 of it was sillier uh you know conversation about president trump and the fcc and the fc and and he gave props to the conservatives that stood up for him including ted cruz who's like his number one enemy uh ben shapiro and a lot of those people who came out and said you know that they did it so he gave some props to them it wasn't really so much standing up for jimmy camill it was saying the fcc should not be doing this this threat
SPEAKER 03 :
It wasn't like people cared about Jimmy Kimmel coming back or not. It was, they shouldn't be making that decision because the FCC, they should be making the decision because he said something horrendous. And it was probably, they should have said it was more like a, he's going to be a cool down or ban, a temporary.
SPEAKER 04 :
Temporarily, we're going to, that's what I said, like Fox does when there's a tragedy, Gutfeld doesn't go on. They don't do the show. They say, you know what? This is not the right time. They go to continue news. Now I watched last night on our Nextar station to see what they ran. They ran another hour long, essentially deep dive news piece. I stayed for about 25 seconds. This was Nextar because Nextar and Sinclair both were not airing the show. I don't even know. Local stuff. Local news creator.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm sure it was good.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're going to play some of it. And I want to get your feedback as well. You're not going to spend too much time on it, but I think you should hear some of what he had to say and get your opinions across. Again, you can give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. Because it all is under this sort of censorship concept and where we step in. where we don't, where we agree, where we disagree, where the advertisers in the network should have said something, maybe not the FCC. I think if you didn't have that, it would be a whole different story.
SPEAKER 03 :
The people, really. Viewers are who, because that's where the money comes from, is advertising. And if people aren't watching, the advertising goes lower. And these shows, like you said, are so expensive to produce. It seemed like they were all kind of going the way of the dinosaur. Absolutely. Especially if the number one was gone.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. All right. Hey, we'll be right back in just a moment. If you were watching during the break, we are going to discuss also the UN speech President Trump gave yesterday, which was filled with some, I guess you'd say, technical difficulties, including an escalator that broke as soon as... Let me say, they weren't technical difficulties.
SPEAKER 03 :
As someone who's done a lot of this at the UN, yes, the UN is pretty junky. And they always say it's because of the US funding. It's also because they won't turn the air conditioning on because of climate change. I was there in Geneva in the summer, and I think it was 77 degrees inside the building. Outside in Geneva, it was cooler because you're on the lake. And you're like, what is this? To the point of when people are sweating and uncomfortable in a setting that's supposed to be formal, but you realize, again, and I remember telling you there live from there, we were the only Americans in the building. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they are going to, the Secret Service is going to investigate this as potential sabotage as we found out that there was multiple people online that were joking about whether this could happen. Before it happened, saying, what if the elevator broke down?
SPEAKER 03 :
UN staff was actually heard by New York Times.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think some of it's up on the screen right now. You can see people were talking about it, saying that it would be funny if when this president steps on the escalator, the elevators, that maybe it...
SPEAKER 03 :
shuts down staff members have joked that they may turn off the escalators and elevators and simply tell him they ran out of money so he has to walk up the stairs i will tell you this that's because they keep saying the u because the u.s pulling funding which by the way we still provide a lot of funding to the to the u.n second definitely done intentionally A hundred percent. I've been there.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was as soon as Melania stepped on it. I mean, that's the one thing is that the timing was so, I mean, you're watching it right now. It's working. It's working. It's working. She steps one foot on it and it shuts down. Give me a break. And there's multiple. I mean, there's, you see, there's multiple. The others are going fine. Yes. And done. Trying to make her fall and him fall. Yeah, well, yeah, she loses her balance. And theoretically, you'd think he'd fall. I mean, honestly, if they're not as good as sabotaging, do it a little bit further up. That's what happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think they're a little nervous about, you know, having the President of the United States potentially fall. And then, of course, the teleprompter. I will tell you this. Again, the teleprompter is a very simple, very, very simple piece of technology.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is, but for some reason, they can't get it right.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I'm telling you, they have problems with any other speaker.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I don't know. I did not care to watch the rest.
SPEAKER 03 :
They did not. And so I'm telling you, this was all done as sabotage because they knew that Donald Trump was coming there to tell them what the truth was. If you don't get your countries in order, get the hostages out, by the way, and you let your countries be overrun by radicals like the UK and others, you know, I will say France and some of these other countries have done a much better job on immigration than others after being there over the summer. You've been in the UK, I've been in the UK. They have kind of just let it go. um and i i think you know he made that message it was also interesting because they they and i think they kind of messed up because he he he also had planned that day and still did it a big reversal on russia and ukraine which we haven't gotten to where he said you know what i've been dealing with this putin guy now for two administrations enough doubling down um i'm gonna give know if if uh nato wants to purchase u.s weaponry they can use it however they want uh i think that's after all these drones have gotten close to european cities and you've seen all these airports have to shut down because of russian drones suspected there was also this big um just that secret service fine in new york of all those servers that were that were had the ability to shut down all cell services let me tell you who was likely responsible for that yeah Russians.
SPEAKER 04 :
And at the same moment, you also had, I sent it to you, Russia is definitely on a weird PR move campaign too because they did their own alternate version of the Eurovision Song Contest, which is something that my family, we get around, we watch it every year.
SPEAKER 03 :
Most of the world somehow participated, but not the actual country, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
It was as Russian as you'd expect because it was all these countries that, a lot of countries that are not allowed. So I think Cuba, Russia, ones that have issues. And then it's in the United States.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, that's what I thought. It's like, what?
SPEAKER 04 :
We looked it up and it was an Australian singer who lived here for a couple of years who had moved back already, but they found a way to kind of loophole an American. But it opened with Putin coming out, making a statement. It was in English and it was in Russian. No, I forgot who won. I can find out who won it. Venezuela. Yeah, I think Russia knows better than to win it. They're like, you know, we should... Ukraine was not there. No, I don't think so. But they're doing all these like count... And look, it was a...
SPEAKER 03 :
A lot of those countries wouldn't be in Eurovision because they're not in Europe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, but there's some rules there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is the UAE usually in Eurovision? Sometimes, I think they are.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's a big, huge problem right now with Israel. Israel is right now, three or four of the major countries have said they're going to protest if israel's allowed to perform this year uh because usually they do this is like spain oh yeah israel's usually top 10 uh because they make crazy pop music and that's uh i know this is totally off topic here but we're saying it's actually important for people to know what's going on in the world yeah when you watch something like this and it was available on youtube I thought it was going to be available on like Rumble maybe or like RT but no it was actually on YouTube this sort of Russian song contest made for the world stage I think you're going to see Putin try more of those kind of things because he has lost Trump now right for now
SPEAKER 03 :
And so what Trump said, which is very clear, is that he now believes that Russia is a paper tiger. Vietnam won. Oh, interesting. And that because they're a paper tiger, he said, you know, any real military, let's be honest, should have been able to overrun Ukraine if you're the size of Russia in days like we all talked about years ago. And this kind of indiscriminate killing and now these drones in Europe, enough? I'm going to let NATO do what they want. If they want to buy our weapons and go after the Russians, go for it. What that means for the United States, we'll have to have some others on to talk about that. You know what? The UN really messed up because he was going to give a message, probably one message they actually agree with, that they've been looking for the United States. And I believe President Trump on this. I think he really, really has tried. I mean, he went to Alaska to work with Putin. And even like Melania said, every time he walked in there, he said, great remarks. And then she'd say, yeah, but they just blew up a maternity ward. And so... when they could have had a great moment at the UN. Instead, it's all overrun by... You talked about the AI and bioweapons and trying to secure those. These are things that the UN would like, but because they have Trump derangement syndrome. I mean, so they're like... Staffers are doing some ridiculous things. And let me tell you something. Secret Service... does need to get to the bottom of, because that was dangerous, uh, on the, uh, on using, using any kind of like, you know, shutting down. Yeah. Whoever had access to that. And then, um, on just impacting his speech. I don't know about the, that doesn't be dangerous, the crime, but, but again, those staffers should be fired.
SPEAKER 04 :
it becomes the story instead of whatever the speech was going to be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Listen, even if you're the Russian speaker or the, this beer, that shouldn't happen to you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the Russians are interesting because in that like song contest, one of the things they majorly pushed in it is if you've been a fan of the Eurovision song contest, it has gotten a little out of control in terms of, um, it's not as family friendly as it used to be. It can be a bit intense and, and, Russia came out and said, well, our version is completely family friendly. We are conservative values. We are family values. You know, trying to push a different narrative coming out of Russia as well, which is you're not going to see. I mean, oddly enough, is the messaging you get from a lot of a lot of the conservative Christian organizations is what was coming out of Russia. So I know they're playing this sort of marketing. They're trying, especially when you have people even on the right and, you know, kind of publicly proclaiming their love, it feels like, for Russia and for Vladimir Putin. Phone lines are open for you. We're going to take as many as we can coming up at 1-800-684-3110. Before we head to break, because let's just set up the Jimmy Kimmel thing, I want you to hear from Jimmy Kimmel. This is part of his apology. If you say quote-unquote apology last night that happened. Let's do this and we'll head to break and we'll talk about it coming up.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference. If you like me, you like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion. And I meant it. I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did... point a finger i get why you're upset if the situation was reversed there's a good chance i'd have felt the same way i have many friends and family members on the other side who i love and remain close to even though we don't agree on politics at all i don't think the murderer who shot charlie kirk represents anyone this was a sick person who believed violence was a solution and it isn't it ever
SPEAKER 04 :
And if that is where things had ended, I think with Jimmy Kimmel, I think a lot of people said, OK, you know, it wasn't maybe a full fledged apology, but at least it was something. But then it just went into his typical 20 minute kind of rant against. He went around the FCC, had a lot of Trump jokes, had a lot of stuff, and then circled back around and did a full another segment that then ended. by saying that how moved he was by erica kirk's speech a very similar tone to this beginning so i understand it's a comedy show they want to pack it forward what he certainly did not do was say we're going to try to chill the tone he said you know what the show is he even admitted that he's like when we started the show it was a comedy late night talk show And it's not really anymore. I mean, he pretty much said that almost word for word, saying this is a political commentary show. And the fact that they have them saying that, you know, is pretty interesting. It should change the way, honestly, it should change the way guests decide to go on the show. Because if you're going to admit to say this is just a political news show or a political commentary show, then I don't know if you should be getting Peyton Manning. I don't know if you should be getting some of these top leading names. Because I don't feel like if you had said, hey, come on and do one of these shows on CNN, you likely are going to get those guys to show up. We'll be back with your calls and comments coming up in just a moment. Hey, all right, phone lines, we're going to go to you next because some of you have been waiting to hold for a long time. I'll make sure you get your voice heard as well. This is going to kind of cover all the topics.
SPEAKER 03 :
Be nice to the phone screeners. They want to get you on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so just don't curse. Let's go to Sean in Florida first. You've been holding for half an hour, Sean.
SPEAKER 03 :
They're dealing with us who keep talking.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, go ahead, Sean. Hey, guys. Thank you for all the work you do. So I'll be very brief with this. So I know a lot of people. Okay, thank you. I know a lot of people. We'll want to say, Oh, they don't want to hear what I'm going to say, but I think after what's happened with Mr. Kirk, I think we have to strategically adjust what we're doing. So my point is this moving forward. I think that all public speakers, especially when they're getting to be larger ones, I think that all public speakers moving forward should have bulletproof glass in front of them, even if it's a small event. Maybe a sheet or two. It's highly effective. It's extremely cheap. And it's very mobile. People come, they sit up just like the president. It's effective. And if we would have had that in place that day, either... It would have deflected or the guy wouldn't even have shown up to do it because he knew it would have been pointless.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Sean, I understand your point. I mean, there's pros and cons of it in terms of the way you connect with an audience.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it's a speaker's decision at this point. And as Logan said, as guys who have been on stages, large, small, who've done those events where you want to be more grassrootsy, if you had that kind of barrier and you're already on a stage, one, that's even more difficult to connect to an audience. But then two, if you were doing kind of like what Charlie was doing, that wouldn't have worked at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, yes. I mean, do I agree with you that I don't think the person probably would have even taken a shot knowing that there was some sort of bulletproof vest? You're probably right, Sean. But does that... A lot of these guys are wearing vests.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it is. That doesn't protect everything.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's tough. It's a tough decision to make. I think it's one that I don't think we should say has to or doesn't don't have to. But I think security in general needed to be better. And I think we need to look and we saw at the event that the president now usually almost always walks around it. To the point of making me nervous, to be honest. At the very end, when he was with Erica at the end, I'm like, get off the stage. And I know the point, and it was a beautiful moment, but your heart rate starts going.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can't really see. There's some kind of reflection.
SPEAKER 04 :
There is a disconnection.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. And I think people get it when it's the President of the United States, the Pope, things like that. When it becomes kind of your activist that you've waited hours to see and maybe interact with, that becomes a lot like you're going to go to a concert and the band's going to be behind a screen.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's like a COVID meet and greet kind of thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
We don't want to be at that point in the world. The truth is this is why we're talking about dialogue and making sure those who have obviously both a mix of political anger where I disagree with Jimmy Kimmel and psychological issues mixing together that we need to do a better job and those families need to do a better job of letting law enforcement know so they're not just running rampantly during events like that when they're telling people basically. And our laws are trying to figure that out. We've seen that with some of the school shootings and parents being prosecuted because they assisted or they knew and they did not notify law enforcement in time. At the same time, this is, again, I think it's up to the speaker. So if you're someone who says, you know what, I only feel comfortable doing it this way right now. If that's what Erica Kirk said right now, I don't think anybody.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think she was the only one I think that used it other than the president during that.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, wasn't it all of the government speakers? All the government speakers? I'm not positive about that. Maybe you're right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe the government, maybe the non-government speakers, she may have been the only one. Also, she led into President Trump.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I think once it moved from the turning point team to the administration officials, that's when I think it went behind.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I have some friends who work in the business of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sometimes the Secret Service just says, they just beg. And they say, please, this makes our job so much easier if you're going to let in 100,000 people or 80,000 people to this job. Just put all, if you're going to have half the cabinet speak, including the president and vice president and all the rest of them there in the crowd, when they're up there, please do this for us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, absolutely. Let's go ahead and take a couple more calls. Let's go to Edward who's calling in Oregon. Edward, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, how you doing today, gentlemen? Hey, Edward. I was calling in regards to the abortion clinic and the unlawful rulings that are coming out. And you did state that your first amendment right is definitely abridged, but then they come after your second amendment. The part that you're missing is they also hit you on the fifth amendment because as you're convicted, You lose your right to unlawful search and seizure and the right of self-incrimination. As convicted, they can come to your house and search whatever you want. Even if you don't have a gun, they can search your house without a warrant because you've been convicted to see if you have a gun.
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And this person has not been convicted and as of now has lost this constitutional right for three years. And this, I think, Edward, might even make you more angry. The way California and this court would like this to end, I don't believe this will end this way, but the way they would like this to end is that these, like the Second Amendment rights and other rights, like the 100 yards and firearms, even at his own home. They're not even saying a concealed carry. They're saying ownership. So if he does own a weapon, which maybe he does legally, I guess he has to go through some process to turn that in. All of that is so unconstitutional and incompetent. But it doesn't just say three years and that's it. Three years and can be renewed. Why? Like, who gets to make the renewal? Just because, well, hey, it's working. The guy hasn't shown up. Or does he have to violate the order, which, again, we believe won't be upheld anyways. But what I'm saying here is, like you said, Edward, they actually wanted to do this indefinitely without a conviction. Right. hoping he didn't have anybody come to his defense. It was like being convicted of a felony without ever being convicted of anything. Right. And getting the consequences. The only thing you weren't getting was actually being put in jail.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Let's go ahead and take a call. We'll see if we can answer it. I will tell you, impact on getting jobs and things like that. Oh, that changes everything. Yep. Let's go to Roger quickly in Alabama. Roger, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've got a good one for you. I was an amateur radio operator for about 20 years and we had to study the FCC rules and regulations and how our transmissions went out. It's called 95.7 and your transmission had to be beautiful. It couldn't have any noise in it. You couldn't cuss and there were other things you couldn't do and you couldn't
SPEAKER 03 :
get on there and transmit false information and i don't i don't i think what's changing that is that that is a much blurrier topic now uh with the government i think we don't want them to be by the way i think a lot of the false information they were talking about was false information that would lead people to believe they are under attack yeah or there's a tornado coming yeah yes that you know you don't joke around with the world of the ward situation. We've been talking about it here behind the scenes that all of this kind of content, we're working on something actually now with another major organization, corporation with FCC issues and some of these broadcast issues and antitrust issues and I will tell you It all probably, instead of piecemeal, you know, my idea is if you want to revamp it, revamp it. The piecemeal, you know, from the 1940s and 50s, it's not going to work. So, you know, either revamp or let it stand. And as you're seeing, we're moving away from it anyways. You know, the sports is moving away from it. You're able to get broadcast in how many different ways? Yes, I guess your ears still work, right?
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Not your body. There are antennas. There's HD antennas, yes. A lot of those were taken away. A lot of those the government runs now, but there is HD versions of digital. Yeah. All right, that's going to do it for today's show. Support the work of the ACLJ while you're at it. I know we've been all over the map today. But understand we're doing all of this work. Yeah, and all around the world. Be a part of our team, even internationally at ACLJ.org. Take a look at the great free info we give you, free content, and all of it's free because you support the work. Talk to you tomorrow.

On today's program: Casey Harper, Managing Editor for Broadcast at The Washington Stand and Host of the "Outstanding" podcast, reports the latest on the negotiations between Israel and Hamas, the UN General Assembly, and shares insight into the
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Now we are also watching incursions into neighboring airspace by both drones and airplanes. The president is a very patient man. He's very committed to peace, but his patience is not infinite.
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That was Secretary of State Marco Rubio warning today at the United Nations that America's patience regarding the war in Ukraine is not infinite and cautioning that Russia could soon face consequences for its continued aggression. Welcome to this September 24th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, coming up, a reported ceasefire offer from Hamas is on its way to President Donald Trump. What's in the letter? And what's at stake? Victoria Coates, former Deputy National Security Advisor to President Trump, joins us in just a moment to break it all down. And the Schumer shutdown. With a government deadline looming at the end of the month, President Trump canceled a key meeting yesterday, and Democrats are now scrambling to respond. Congressman Michael Cloud of Texas will join me to explore what this means and what might happen next. Well, at least 20 people were injured after a drone launch from Yemen hit the Israeli resort town of Eilat near the borders with Jordan and Egypt. This attack happened as the Middle East is in the spotlight at the United Nations General Assembly, where countries seem to be tripping over themselves to recognize a Palestinian state. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who has been following these events. Casey, what's the latest on the war between Israel and Hamas and a possible deal?
SPEAKER 21 :
well, Tony, tripping over themselves is the right way to put it, but Hamas has reportedly sent a letter to President Trump in a new development. In that letter, they offered a two-month ceasefire in exchange for the release of half of the remaining Israeli hostages. Now, according to Fox News, the letter is currently being held by Qatari officials and is expected to be delivered to Trump later this week. Amid these developments, President Trump and French President Emmanuel Macron met for bilateral talks. In those talks, Palestinian statehood emerged as a key point of contention. When asked about France and other U.S. allies or recognizing a Palestinian state, President Trump said this.
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I was always saying the last hostages are going to be the toughest ones, but you can't honor them by doing anything like you suggest. All you can do is say we want our hostages back and we want the war to end. We're going to want it to end.
SPEAKER 21 :
President Trump and others have made an important point. They say recognizing Palestinian statehood now is rewarding Hamas for the October 7th attack, Tony.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, I don't see how you see it any other way. Now, I have to say it's unbelievable to see what these European countries are doing to state they are calling for a Palestinian state. Now, I don't see how it can be described any other way than rewarding Hamas, a terrorist group that has vowed to wipe Israel off the map. Now, Casey, President Trump reportedly, as I saw, also sat down with leaders from several Muslim nations. What came out of those meetings?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, that's right, Tony. President Trump said Tuesday he held what he called very successful meetings on Gaza with key Muslim leaders. He told reporters he expects Israel to join the talks soon, saying, I think we can work something out on Gaza. According to Politico, President Trump told Arab leaders he won't let Israel annex the West Bank, though, which is, of course, Judea and Samaria, Tony.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thanks, Casey. I actually think that could be somewhat problematic on many fronts when you're talking about Judea and Samaria, which is the biblical heartland and key to Israel's security. Well, on another topic, in his speech yesterday, President Trump took aim at the mayor of London, accusing him of letting the city be overrun by migrants. That's pretty sharp rhetoric.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, in true Trump style, he was pulling no punches, Tony. And speaking from the U.N. stage, no less. But President Trump slammed Mayor Sadiq Khan, the London mayor. And in fact, he warned that they're headed towards Sharia law. He even went further, saying, quote, both immigration and their suicidal energy ideas will be the death of Western Europe if something isn't done immediately. Strong words, Tony.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is. Thank you, Casey. President Trump now says Ukraine can potentially win the war with Russia. Now, Casey, that seems to be a pretty significant shift in perspective.
SPEAKER 21 :
It certainly is. It was a dramatic shift. And President Trump now says Ukraine can win the war and actually should act quickly to to reclaim all of its territory from Russia. Now, those comments came after President Trump met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in New York. And meanwhile, President Zelenskyy actually urged world powers to help stop Russia's war in Ukraine. He warned in his U.N. speech that the conflict is fueling a dangerous global arms race.
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We are now living through the most destructive arms race in human history because this time includes It includes artificial intelligence.
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Now, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, he warned today at the U.N. that President Trump's patience on ending the war in Ukraine is not infinite. He said the time is coming when Russia will face consequences for its continued aggression.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Casey, thanks so much for the update on what's happening, not only at the U.N., but around the world. All right, joining me now to go further into what's been coming out Out of the United Nations General Assembly with regards to Israel and the Middle East is Victoria Coates, a former deputy national security advisor to President Trump. She is now president of the Heritage Foundation's Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy. Victoria, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 14 :
Very good to see you, Tony. Just a minor connection. I'm vice president.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I would make that correction. I'm trying. I'm doing my best. All right. Let's talk about this proposed agreement that's being sent by Hamas to the president. I mean, the president's made pretty clear the hostages need to be released. Is this just a delay tactic?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's absolutely a delay tactic. And I mean, the only reason Hamas is getting into the business of post office is that they know their days are numbered. And I know that the Israeli strike on Doha was controversial 10 days ago. But what that showed the remaining leadership of Hamas that is in Qatar is Israel can reach out and touch you. And maybe they failed on that particular strike, but they can reach out again. And so I think you're seeing them get a little bit desperate. The president has been very clear. I don't want two hostages today, three tomorrow, five on Tuesday, a couple of bodies next week. and you all get thousands of prisoners in return. No, let them all go now. That was this very clear message from the podium of the United Nations. That was such a powerful, important message. And that's what Hamas has to do. This isn't a negotiation. This is a declaration from the president.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that's not new. I mean, he's been saying that. He said time's running out. You need to release the hostages. And so it's not a new message. So for them to offer releasing half tells me they're not serious.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, no. This is just more of they're trying to delay, trying to get pressure on Israel. And that's why what is happening at the United Nations General Assembly this week is such a gift to them because it encourages them. It gives them a propaganda point.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think you're absolutely right. I think they wouldn't be offering this message. I don't even think it's an offer, a legitimate offer. But I don't think they would be doing it if they didn't have all of these European countries tripping over themselves to recognize the Palestinian state.
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And it's not just the Europeans. It's the Canadians. It's the Australians. It's the West writ large. But I would like to point out the countries that said no. Singapore, Indonesia, Italy, one of my favorite countries as a recovering art historian, it's There are countries that the United States can bring.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think we may have lost our contact there. We're going to get her back on here because I want to let me know as soon as we reconnect. All right. We lost you there for just a moment, Victoria. We lost you at Italy and a recovering art historian artist.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. One of my favorite countries as a recovering art historian. But it was great to hear the prime minister of Italy say, no, until all the hostages come home, until there's some negotiated settlement with Israel, we're not going to have a Palestinian state.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was the position of the U.K. in July, but they changed it. They changed their position. They wanted Hamas to let all the hostages go. They wanted to they had to lay down their arms and not be a part of any future government. But Starmer obviously changed his mind as he went ahead. forward with it. Victoria, I want to ask you about one thing the president reportedly said yesterday in his meeting with Arab and Muslim leaders on the sidelines was that he promised he wouldn't let Israel annex the area known as the West Bank, which is actually Judea and Samaria, which is the heartland of Israel. What do we know about that? What's your take on that?
SPEAKER 14 :
My take is I would take that with a grain of salt. I think that the president has been very sensitive to the issues around Judea and Samaria. He's also been very sensitive to issues around Israel's sovereignty. So my expectation is he's going to see this more as an internal Israeli security decision. And so that's how I would see it. And the Palestinians have been given, Tony, for 90 years the option of some kind of mutual sort of state within the territory that makes up modern Israel. Before the foundation of modern Israel, this was on the table. They've said no every single time. So offering them territory now in 2025 isn't going to get us any further than it did 90 years ago. So I would be a little suspicious about what the president said he's going to tell the leader of a sovereign country like Prime Minister Netanyahu he can or cannot do within his borders.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's kind of interesting the developments that are rapidly happening in Israel where you have even Arabs within the Palestinian area wanting to create emirates and come under relationship with Israel because they don't want the corruption of the Palestinian Authority. They saw what happened in Gaza with Hamas and they don't want to repeat.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now, and we're seeing this in Gaza, too, where there are things like the Popular Front that are saying, look, we might not love Israel, but boy, do we hate Hamas. So maybe we can provide some services. Maybe we can start to build something that could in the future be a state. And this is what's so ridiculous. about what you'd call advanced Western countries are trying to recognize at the United Nations this week. I mean, there are no boundaries. There are no institutions. There's nothing that could create a state. You think about the creation of Israel in 1948 and how quickly that stood up as an institutional state and has become over these 75 years one of the most powerful countries in the world. Who thinks that's going to happen with any Palestinian entity right now? What is that going to be other than some kind of factory for terrorism? Nobody wants it in the region. That's the reality.
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I mean, I think the folks realize that Hamas, you know, they didn't deliver basic resources. I mean, water, sewage. They can build tunnels. They can build a terrorist infrastructure, but they can't provide basic services. The same thing. Actually, in the Palestinian Authority in Hebron, they have the same issue. They can't get water. They're having to get it from Israel. So they know who can take care of business. Final question for you. We've got just about a minute left, Victoria. Prime Minister, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is scheduled to address the U.N. General Assembly on Friday. What do you expect him to say?
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Well, quite frankly, if I were the prime minister, I would say you're welcome. that we have spent the last two years taking out the trash for the region and getting rid of some of the most destructive terrorist scum in Lebanon, in Gaza, in the West Bank, in Yemen, in Iran, and have made actually the Middle East more stable. These are the disruptive elements. Israel's taken them out without igniting a regional war, which everybody keeps telling us what's going to happen. Guess what? It hasn't. So thank you, Prime Minister Netanyahu.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good point. Very good point. Victoria Coates, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
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Thank you, Tony.
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All right. We're going to be I'm going to encourage you to pray for the prime minister as he goes to the U.N. on Friday following all these attacks on verbal attacks on Israel. And back tomorrow, we're going to be praying on this program for Israel. I'll tell you more about that later. Don't go away. We're back right after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. In less than four weeks, like-minded Christ followers from across the country will gather at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills for our PrayVote Stand Summit. If ever there was a moment we needed God to move in our nation, it is now. So I encourage you to join us October the 17th and 18th in Chino Hills, California for a powerful gathering as we seek cultural renewal and spiritual revival. To find out more and to register, go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. I hope you'll come and join us for this powerful event. Yesterday, the parent company of Google and YouTube responded to subpoenas issued by the House Judiciary Committee and admitted that the Biden administration during the COVID pandemic pressured them to silence Americans and remove user-generated content that did not to violate their policies, but the government didn't like it. Now the company wants to correct course and says it will reinstate the accounts of YouTube content creators who were booted off their platform over their views on COVID and elections. Now we actually, I was tagged, this program was tagged because of our discussion of COVID-19 and the policies that they put in place that didn't work. Join me now to discuss this and more. Congressman Michael Cloud, a member of the House Appropriations Committee and the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. He represents the 27th Congressional District of Texas. Congressman Cloud, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Well, thank you. Good to be with you, Tony. So before we get into Google's confession, let me get your read on the federal funding fight as the September 30th deadline approaches. What's going to happen?
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Well, you know, far be it for me to predict what's going to happen in this day and age. But right now it looks like Schumer doesn't really want to move in spite of the fact that this is funding that he's voted for and been in favor of in the past. And so we've extended funding to give us an on-ramp to continue the appropriations process and get the bills across the finish line. But it seems that they're intent on a shutdown, which is unfortunate.
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So just before we move on, the House passed a clean continuing resolution before they left town last week. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, the Republicans have passed something. It's the Democrats in the Senate that are blocking it, right?
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Yeah, exactly. We've done our due diligence for this part. We've still got to work through the appropriations process, but this gives us the time to do that and to have continuity of government. Right now it looks like the Dems in the Senate don't want to play ball, and what they're demanding of the Trump administration is just not even on the radar. And so they've got to come to the table with some sort of real proposal. Really the thing to do, this is just continuing the current funding process, Right. That they voted for extending the funding that they voted for in the past several times. Right. Yeah. This isn't even a new piece of legislation for them.
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If anything, it's a concession that the Republicans allow this to continue. Now, I know there's been...
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Yeah, for some of us conservatives, it was kind of getting there. But we believe in the Trump administration and see what we're trying to do. We're working to avoid an omnibus and to break that cycle. We just need some time to get the appropriations bills across the line. And this is funding that they voted for before. But the fact is, is they don't have a message. They don't have anything to run on. And so they've got to try to find some pivot point to kind of create some sort of legitimacy for themselves at this point. America has rejected their ideas and their values. And, you know, this is sadly political gamesmanship.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, we'll see soon enough, about six days. All right, let's go back to Google and YouTube. What were some of the major admissions that stood out to you from the big tech company?
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Well, you know, it's kind of like... You know, you catch your kid with their hand in the cookie jar, and then finally later on they admit that, you know, they were trying to take cookies. This was no surprise to anyone. We knew that the Biden administration had been forcing them and encouraging them, I should say, to ban people, to deplatform people, and for them to come out and say, oh, yes, we were doing what the Biden administration was pressuring us to do. You know, it's great that they're being honest about that now, but it's a little – too little too late in a sense. There were people who lost income. Are they going to make that up for them?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it had a chilling effect on speech.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And if you look at the history of Google, they give millions and millions of dollars to Biden and Kamala and tens of thousands to Republican candidates. And so we know about their shadow banning. We know how they've played with search results in a way to favor candidates. So for them to try to push this off like they were doing this at the behest of high-pressure games from the Biden administration is a little disingenuous, maybe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don't throw me in that briar patch. So let me ask you this question. So do you think that maybe they're coming forth with this admission in the hopes of trying to keep Congress from amending Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act, which would remove their immunity?
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I'm sure that's part of it. No doubt they're trying to find good favor maybe with the administration, with Congress during this time. They've been bad actors for so long and have manipulated results, and it's – You know, and then there's antitrust issues involved, too, because they seem they're almost a monopoly, if not. And and so, you know, there's definitely some discussion needs to happen on reigning in this kind of authority. They've certainly been bad actors.
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You know, the scripture says you've got to do the works of repentance. You know, I got to see that evidence. I got to see the evidence. How do you ensure that? They don't fall back into these bad habits after the next election that this is just convenient during the present environment. Is there anything Congress can do?
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Well, we can investigate. It would be great for DOJ to take up some of the stuff that we're uncovering and turn it into prosecutions. But we can only take the ball so far from the oversight standpoint. We can look at the Section 230 issue. And if they're manipulating results, they cease to be a non-biased platform. They are then a publisher and would fall under a different sort of paradigm. So, you know, these are all fair game when it comes to dealing with what they've done. And to your point, you know, we can talk about Zaccheaus. He didn't just say, I'm sorry. He went back and repaid those who he robbed from. And so this is a situation where Google needs to do more than just take the little, oh, I'm so sorry. They need to do something to show they're changing course.
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Well, and I hope we're able to look at some guardrails we can put in to prohibit this in the future. I know a lot is based upon trust and people governing themselves, but free speech is so fundamental to making our country work. Congressman Cloud, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
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Thank you. God bless you all.
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All right. Keep up the good fight. Congressman Michael Cloud of Texas. One of the good guys fighting on Capitol Hill. All right. There's still a lot more Washington Watch to come. We're going to be talking about this dramatic shift between the president's view on Russia and Ukraine. That's next. Don't go away.
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Thank you for having me.
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Were you surprised at all by the president's statement?
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I was, only that I thought he'd eventually get to here. I think the president has landed in the exact right spot, which is to say that he gave Vladimir Putin a significant amount of time, numerous opportunities, to join in a ceasefire with President Zelensky in Ukraine. And President Trump was disrespected by President Putin. After every meeting, Putin would go back to Russia and would immediately engage in significant cruise missile, hypersonic missile strikes on civilian personnel in Ukraine, and as well as engaging in military kinetic actions along the front lines. ignoring the president's request for Vladimir to stop, ignoring the president's request to come to the negotiating table. I think President Trump gave President Putin all the wiggle room he could and that he had enough.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I also don't think time is on the side of the Russians because, I mean, they should have if they could do this, they should have done a long time ago. But there's another aspect to this, Admiral, that the more information that comes out of what's happening in Ukraine, as you were just talking about, how they've been targeting civilian populations. but also what they've been doing in the occupied regions. I've been talking to pastors who have been exiled, pushed out, their churches turned into police stations or military stations by the Russians, and their people scattered. There's a type of cultural genocide going on when it comes to Christians in those occupied regions.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you're exactly right. I spent a lot of time in Ukraine working with their troops and trying to do reform there. And I I see exactly what you're saying. I'll go further. The abduction of 19,000 plus, maybe 20,000 plus Ukrainian children, their illegal adoption or their, you know, placing them in homes and then eventually in the military. to fight against Ukrainians. I mean, this is completely unacceptable behavior. And as you mentioned, the destruction of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church by the Russians, this is completely unacceptable behavior. It's in fact why President Putin has been indicted by the International Criminal Court for these crimes against children and against humanity in Ukraine.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, Admiral, let me ask you this question. With the president, President Trump now making these statements that suggest he's turned, as you said, you thought he would get here. He's here now. How might that affect how Europe responds in this conflict?
SPEAKER 04 :
The president did not take his finger out of Europe's face. He continued to say what he should be saying, which is you are the predominant provider of weapons systems. I'll allow my American defense industrial base. to be the provider, but you need to buy these weapons. But what he said basically was, I'm going to let you buy what you need. And that's a change. There'll be even more weapon systems available. I think there's stuff coming through the system that the U.S. provided, you know, bought years ago that will be allowed to go. And there'll be both offensive and defensive weapons. But in the end, Europe's responsible. And then the second big part is Europe has got to get off of Russian oil and natural gas, their fossil fuel. That's what's paying for this war. He brought that up yesterday in his speech. That's right. And he told the Europeans, you know, particularly Hungary, Slovakia and Turkey are still taking quite a bit of oil and natural gas. Other countries are as well, but those are the big ones. And we all know China and India are the other two. I think the president's going to handle China and India. Europe needs to handle Europe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and it's right there in their own backyard. I mean, it's to their benefit to shut down this Russian war machine. But yet they're continuing it by buying the oil and funding it.
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And I'd split the Europe up. There's a part of Europe, Poland and the Baltic states, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, that have done their job. They don't take anything from Russia. They spend four to five percent of their GDP on defense, more than the president had asked for initially and what he would like to eventually see. They are good actors. Unfortunately, they're small in terms of economic productivity. We really need the Western Europeans involved. you know, Spain, Portugal, Germany, France, UK, to do their fair share.
SPEAKER 06 :
Admiral, you just have about 45 seconds left. What do you think the timeline is? Do we see this war wrapping up anytime soon?
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This is going to put a lot of pressure on Vladimir Putin. And he's got other pressures. He's losing, he's lost 900,000 to a million people, including 250 to 300,000 dead. This is the lifeblood of a future Russia. And, you know, in a failed campaign. So he's got that pressure. He's got the pressure of mothers and grandmothers in Russia asking, why are we doing this? He's going to have severe economic pressure soon that won't be able to pay for the war machine. Yes, I think we're in a we've gone from years to high numbers of months, six, eight, 10 months for Putin's got to do something serious.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Admiral Montgomery, thank you so much for joining us. Greatly appreciate your insights. All right, folks, we're going to talk more about the connection with Tylenol, vaccines, and autism next. Don't go away.
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All right, welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Washington Watch. Good to have you along. All right. I mentioned this early in the program, but Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will address the United Nations General Assembly on Friday. This, as we've talked about, comes at a time when many European nations are calling for a Palestinian state and voicing sharp criticism of Israel. So after all of that, he's going to stand up and speak. So I want to invite you to join me on tomorrow's program as we set time aside in the program to actually pray on the air for Israel. I'm going to be joined by leaders from around the world as we lift up Israel. Again, people joining us from Israel, from Israel. Geneva, from New York, from Washington, D.C., we're going to be praying. So be sure and tune in and invite others to join us. If they don't have a local station where they live, tell them to get the Stand Firm app and they can watch and participate on the Stand Firm app in the App Store. Speaking of taking action, today, one of the greatest threats we face is the rapid rise of the abortion drug Mifeprestone, now responsible for the majority of abortions in I'm going to tell you, FRC is committed to expose the truth about this abortion drug, protect mothers and the babies, and defend the sanctity of life. I mean, my home state of Louisiana, one of the strongest pro-life states, and I was a part of passing many of those laws back when I was in office. It doesn't matter as long as the abortion pill is being mailed into these states, undermining these state laws. We're working on that. And thanks to generous friends of FRC, you can help. If you give to this effort this week, your contribution will have triple the impact. All right. We've got some donors that have put up a match. And so I want to encourage you to stand with FRC to defend the sanctity of human life. Text the word unborn to 67742. That's unborn to 67742. Our word for today comes from Galatians chapter 5. For you, brethren, have been called to liberty. Only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. Now, notice Paul says we are called to liberty, not simply freedom. Why? Freedom is the absence of restraint. Liberty is freedom ordered within the framework of God's truth. Our founding father spoke often of liberty far more than freedom. This idea of ordered liberty is what set the American experiment apart. especially from the French Revolution, which quickly descended into chaos. Liberty is the ability to do what we ought, not merely what our fallen nature desires. That distinction is at the heart of many public policy debates today. For example, the modern slogan, the freedom to marry the one you love, appeals to freedom without restraint. But freedom without moral boundaries inevitably collapses into bondage. Paul warns that if we demand freedom without the responsibility of liberty, we'll lose both. True liberty comes when by love we serve one another, and only then can freedom endure. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. That's Bible to 67742. All right, yesterday on the program, we started to dive into the Trump administration's newly announced initiatives to tackle autism. including new health guidance regarding the use of Tylenol during pregnancy. Now, unfortunately, we were only able to scratch the surface because of the time. And this is an important issue. Autism rates have increased like 400% since the year 2000. And so I asked Dr. Robert Malone, who co-chairs the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, He is the founder and president of the Malone Institute, which aims to bring back integrity to government, the biological sciences, and medicine, to join us again today. So, Dr. Malone, thanks so much for coming back. I appreciate you coming and helping us unpack this a bit more.
SPEAKER 08 :
Tony, thank you, and thank you for that preceding essay on liberty. I really appreciate it. I was riveted by your words.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you. It's not my words. It's the Lord's words comes out of his book. Let's and you can never go wrong with those words. Let's pick up where we left off. We were talking about the suppression of any information and even discussion on the potential link between autism, Tylenol vaccines. This is a debate that's been going on for a long, long time. You talked about the president having a vested interest in this. Is it not time that we look at all the data and let science lead us forward?
SPEAKER 08 :
The truth is it's way past time, Tony. And I'm fascinated that the company marketing Tylenol itself made statements, I believe it was in 2015, that they don't recommend the use of their product in pregnancy anymore. This is another case, if you're familiar with the term or your audience is, the Overton window, the range of allowable discourse. And we have been somehow disallowed from asking fundamental questions about why we see this rise in autism. And it's not just autism. As you point out, it's autism spectrum disorders. It's a variety of other conditions that are diagnosed and often over-treated, like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. And what's at the root of all these things? Well, there is a fairly clear link, if you look at the preponderance of evidence, that treatment with Tylenol can affect the development of key parts of the system, brain the central nervous system of children whether in utero or as young children and that this leads to a number of these neurologic conditions that have become so rampant and of course there is the severe autism that one when I was young you rarely if ever saw and now is reasonably common and then there's this group of behaviors that are bundled as autism spectrum disorder that have a frequency in the state of California that's down near 1 in 10 or less. It's stunning what's going on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Why the hesitancy to talk about this? Why the... It's like people who bring these things up, like the vaccines, any connection, the timing of vaccines, all this stuff. It's like they're marginalized and made out to be. Even as the media was criticizing the president yesterday and his administration. Why the reluctancy to talk about this?
SPEAKER 08 :
Tony, I don't know. And I can only speculate that. It's really easy to blame everything on pharma and the corruption and management of media by pharma, but that doesn't explain the kind of willful blindness on the part of the public. It's as if we really don't want to know. There's some sort of a cultural prohibition about talking about the possibility that we're damaging our children's And even more, there's a prohibition on talking about the possibility that our children are being damaged because of the advice they're receiving from medical professionals. And this all wraps up into something we were just discussing in the Maha Action Group a few moments ago, the arrogance of physicians and other medical practitioners that have become so rampant in American medical culture, this idea that they can't be challenged, that they are all-knowing, that's just false. And I think that's part of it. You know, Tony, if you unpack the Tylenol story, which it's amazing what the pushback is being in the media right now about this, given how well documented it is, underneath it is the issue that Pediatricians have been recommending that we treat any kind of fever in the child or the pregnant woman with this agent, with Tylenol. And it could well be that their advice has led to a significant burden of disease in children. And they've got to come to grips with that.
SPEAKER 06 :
When you look at the Tylenol, I want to talk a little bit about the vaccines because the childhood immunization, the vaccines have long been at the center of this discussion or the discussion that didn't happen, that should have happened. There's no denying the evidence that autism has increased, as you call it, the wide spectrum. I mean, there's no denying that. There has to be something behind it. And if you're not willing to look at these things, you'll never find out what it is. What's your view on the childhood immunization programs that are currently being utilized in America?
SPEAKER 08 :
So I find the argument that vaccines historically, for children in particular, have been licensed without adequate negative controls. So we really don't know what the spectrum of adverse events are because we've built a pyramid of logic that it's somehow unethical to not administer a vaccine to a child as a control group so that we can assess whether or not those products are causing certain types of adverse events. We also have never done the investigations on the interactions of these products, essentially drug-drug interactions, in any other part of... pharmacology, and regulatory affairs, drug-drug interactions are central to decisions about licensure and recommendations. But for some reason in the vaccines, there's a prohibition on asking those questions. For some reason, vaccines are treated as if they are something different, not really a drug, something that's sacrosanct. that is almost a religion in and of itself. And that has to stop. Vaccines are drugs. And I'm a vaccinologist. I spent most of my career developing vaccine technology and participating in vaccine clinical trials. But the truth is that these are just drugs and they have adverse events. They have made huge impacts on certain infectious diseases. I wouldn't want to go into the jungles of Brazil without having taken a yellow fever vaccine, which, by the way, is a nasty piece of work. Likewise, I wouldn't want to work on the front lines of an Ebola outbreak without having taken the similarly reacted genetic Ebola vaccine. But that doesn't mean that these don't have side effects. And this prohibition on examining Drug-drug interactions, vaccine-vaccine interactions, timing of vaccine schedule, whether or not we are truly accounting for all the adverse events, and the denialism of those parents and children that have truly been vaccine-injured, I think is stunning. It needs to stop. It's damaging. All these claims that Bobby's the one damaging public health.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. No.
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Health is damaging public health.
SPEAKER 06 :
So let me ask you this, Dr. Malone. Do you see that changing post-COVID, where we've seen now a lot of focus on the effects of that vaccine, some of those vaccines? Do you see that changing?
SPEAKER 08 :
The willingness to begin to question these narratives that all these products are safe and effective is changing. Yep. There does seem to be a fundamental earthquake happening in public health right now. And you can sense that by the enormous amount of backlash that's occurring from the various self-appointed spokespersons for public health and vaccine industry. But it's happening. People have been lied to. We were lied to at the last ACIP meeting by both Pfizer and Pfizer. as Dr. Marianne DeMasi documented in her Substack essay yesterday. What did they lie about? The biodistribution studies and what they did in those biodistribution studies. In the case of Moderna, for instance, they asserted that they had used the actual active drug product when they hadn't. and that's documented in the FDA literature in the dossier. It's also documented that Pfizer edited the biodistribution data. This all relates, this term biodistribution, this relates to the lie that we were told that if we accept the product, it stays in our shoulder or the draining lymph nodes, it doesn't go up your body. That was intentionally hidden from us.
SPEAKER 06 :
We just have a couple minutes left, Dr. Malone. So the news yesterday, the president making the statements about Tylenol, children, pregnant women. Your recommendation to parents that have young children that are watching this program?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, boy, you're going to put me right on the spot on that one. My recommendation is to be very cautious. And unfortunately, you're going to have to do your own research for a little bit of while. We're trying to catch up at the ACIP with the literature. But I think that at this point, it's the pragmatic thing is to have an active discussion with your pediatrician and you take responsibility for your child's health and making an informed decision And don't allow anybody to bully you or shame you into accepting something that you don't feel comfortable with. That's the fundamentals of informed consent.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I think that we're rediscovering that post-COVID. Dr. Malone, I always appreciate you coming on the program and your insights. Thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you, Tony. And let me once again repeat, folks, on the issue of children, we're working hard. here at Family Research Council to protect the unborn. And there is another drug out there, mifeprestone, the abortion drug, that is being mailed into pro-life states, being mailed across the country, taking the lives of unborn children and harming women. I need you to stand with us. Text the word unborn to 67742. That's unborn to 67742. All right, I want to thank you for joining us. Also remember, tomorrow we're going to have a special time of prayer for Israel as the Prime Minister of Israel goes to the United Nations on Friday. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul, found in Ephesians 6, where he says, you've done everything you can do when you've prayed, when you've prepared, and when you've taken your stand.
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This week on the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast, Bob Dutko and John Rush reflect on the massive memorial for Charlie Kirk, where hundreds of millions worldwide witnessed a display of faith, forgiveness, and unity in Christ. From worship filling State Farm Stadium to Erica Kirk’s public words of forgiveness, the event stood in stark contrast to the riots and destruction often associated with leftist outrage. The hosts discuss the future of Turning Point USA, Erica Kirk’s leadership, and whether a rising star will emerge to continue Charlie’s legacy.
They also cover Jimmy Kimmel’s controversial return to late night after spreading lies about Charlie’s murder and blaming MAGA supporters. Was ABC’s move a business decision, or a political one? Bob and John break it down.
Finally, the team analyzes Donald Trump’s fiery United Nations speech, where he called out globalism, green energy scams, and the U.N.’s failures, while defending America’s energy strength and Christian values. From the memorial to world politics, this episode highlights truth, leadership, and the contrast between good and evil.
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Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with myself, Bob Dutko, John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live, going to be back with us next week. So we'll just make fun of him behind his back.
SPEAKER 02 :
He's still alive. He's just not with us.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER 02 :
How are you doing? I'm good, Bob. Alive but not with us. He's alive. He's just not with us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. And not with us kind of sounds – all right. Well, whatever.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
We've got a few things to talk about this week, everybody.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bob, there's never anything to talk about. We have to dig stuff up every week to try to figure this out. You know what? It's such a slow news day.
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That's right. One of the suburbs of Detroit is putting in a new playscape.
SPEAKER 02 :
There we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
There we go. Let's see. We're going to talk about Charlie Kirk's memorial. We're going to talk about Jimmy Kimmel coming back, and he gave his tearful... mea culpa, which was not a mea culpa at all. We'll discuss that. And then Donald Trump's United Nations speech as well, that the press is having a meltdown over. But I'll tell you, I loved seeing the nations of the world being told what they need to be told by somebody. But we're going to start with Charlie Kirk's memorial. I didn't sit there, John, and watch the whole thing, but I got to tell you, there were some powerful takeaways for me on this. One of them was, that if you watch the beginning of this, you had Chris Tomlin, several different Christian singers, and they were just singing praise and worship songs in the State Farm Stadium. You got like 70,000 people in there, and then another 20,000 or so in overflow venues. But then there were also 100 million streams of That doesn't mean there were 100 million sets of eyeballs. There would have been more than that because your average streamer is not watching it alone. Usually people watch with someone streaming. So really, you probably had anywhere from 200 to 500 million sets of eyeballs watching this. And to me, what they saw, first of all, is... When the liberal left is angered about something, think George Floyd, you see cities burned down and rioting and looting and people being killed and everything else. Here, you have one of the most beloved figures in conservative politics and Christianity and all of that, and he's gunned it down so And we see all the left-wing rhetoric that fed into this. And what is the response? Hundreds of millions of people got to see not one building burned down, not one window smashed, not one fire set, not one person killed, nothing at all. A bunch of people raising their hands, closing their eyes, praising God, praying. And then, of course, to see the widow of Charlie Kirk, Erica Kirk, come out there and say, because Christ forgave us, I forgive him, that young man. who shot her husband. To me, this is powerful, John.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, very.
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The world got to see on display how the quote-unquote MAGA movement, who we really are at the core when something like this happens. And they got to see the gospel message, the Gospel 101 being preached. And there was even an altar call. I don't know if you saw that, but the pastor of Charlie Kirk He gave the gospel message, explained the blood on the cross of Jesus Christ to shed for your sins, and everybody stay seated. And if you would like to accept Jesus Christ as Savior, stand up. And you saw people standing up all over that stadium, John. So I just thought it was a very, very powerful thing for hundreds of millions of people to see.
SPEAKER 02 :
Agreed. Like you, I saw a few excerpts here and there. I did not watch all of it. I had some listeners that called in Monday, of course, that watched the whole thing and just said how powerful the whole event was. I knew some folks from Denver that flew down, attended the actual ceremony, and again said it was just moving and one of the greatest things they'd ever been to. Looking back on it, is it something that I wish I would have flown down to? I don't know, Bob. I mean, on the same token, I've got, you know, my own family, my own life, lots of other things going on. And not that I would not want to take time away to go do that as, you know, probably one of the largest events that we've seen in quite some time. But you know what? At the end of the day, it happened. The folks that were there were moved by it. Folks that have watched it are moved by it. You can still watch it. So the reality is, Bob, that movement is not going to stop. Anyway, shape or form, I did get a little news thing that was sent to me this morning from Turning Point USA whereby they feel after all of this is said and done, even with some of the attrition in some of their campus groups, that they should have a Turning Point USA in every single college campus across the U.S. when this is all said and done.
SPEAKER 04 :
They really should. And there is no doubt that the movement itself is certainly going to continue. But so let's just remember, folks, we got to have people who are on the political spectrum, maybe the centrists and the moderates and maybe even some of the – you know, centrist Democrats or whatever, that have this caricature that's been created in their minds of who MAGA people are, who the Trump supporters are, who the conservative Christians, you know, the religious right, who we are. And there's this caricature created of us. And I just, John, I got to wonder how many people Watching that and watching the speakers and watching the forgiveness and watching the reaction from the people inside and then realizing there hasn't been a single fire set anywhere, no riots, no nothing. Right. John, you've got to wonder how many of them are – not all of them, the hardcore liberals, nothing's going to change their mind. But how many people may be in the center that have this image of who the left paints us to be, who Jimmy Kimmel paints us to be? How many of them are going, you know – I don't know if I've been fed a bill of goods because I'm seeing with my own eyes that's not who the Christian right is.
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I think the folks that are, as I always say, being on the left is – I fully believe, especially those that are fully on the left, it's a mental illness. So to your point, those folks aren't going to see – Anything, any way, shape or form. In fact, it's evil against good. They're going to do nothing but criticize even what happened. Call it a you know, it's just it's just fake. These guys aren't like this all the time. You know, you're not really seeing who the real mega folk are. I mean, that's what the hardcore left is saying. But to your point, Bob, I do think there are some folks there, you know, that centrist or they call themselves unaffiliated and maybe they even have a little bit of a. of a bent towards the left, but they understand, you know, maybe even fiscally what things are things, you know, what's going on in our national debt and so on. And so they're looking at the right more and more. And to your point, I've got to believe that, that an event like this and what's happened in the, the, the majority, well, not the majority, all of the response to your point, there hasn't been a single, uh, you know, outlash from anybody on the right, any way, shape, or form in any city across the country, they've got to look at that and say, wait a minute, time out. This is not what's been preached to us, you know, this entire, you know, eight years roughly, nine years now even. You know, this is not what's been preached to us. Wait a minute, time out. To your point, maybe we have been fed a bill of goods.
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Yeah, well, we have. And there's a little bit more about this we want to talk about. Obviously, the future of TPUSA and what we think about that, is it going to get bigger than ever? Is this movement going to last? Or was this movement really dependent upon Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk only because of his skills? And so we'll dive into that. And we're also going to be talking later this hour about Jimmy Kimmel coming back and Donald Trump's United Nations speech, his fiery speech that I think needed to be said. But anyway, a lot more to talk about. But we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors to this podcast. We do SunPowerLED and, of course, Preborn. Preborn, as you know, is the main pro-life group that shows ultrasound images of unborn babies to expectant moms. And they do this in pro-life centers all across the country. And you know, when a mom sees a picture of her baby, it's very rare that she goes through with an abortion. She usually lets her baby live. And by the way, commonly accepts Jesus Christ as Savior. So you can see why we want to show as many ultrasound images as possible. But the problem is not every pro-life center across America has an ultrasound machine in it. And the ones who do, it costs money to activate them. That's where you folks come in. Now, a lot of you have given a pre-born already, and we very much appreciate that. I'm asking you if you'll consider giving again. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to save one baby's life, to stop one abortion. So pray about a number of abortions you'd be willing to stop. Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, hey, that's your gift to pre-born. And if you can buy an ultrasound machine, we need some of you to do that. They're 15 grand apiece. You write it off on your taxes, and you're saving thousands and thousands of babies' lives. But for everybody else... Pray about a number, $28 times fill in the blank, all right? And 100% of what you give to Preborn goes to ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That's all covered by private donors. So here's how you give, folks, two ways, online or on the phone. On the phone, just call 833-850-BABY, and they answer 24-7. So 833-850-BABY. Or go online to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn, CrawfordMediaGroup.net.com. Click on Preborn. We appreciate you giving. Support Preborn. And you know what? While you're at CrawfordMediaGroup.net, John, they need to check out SunPowerLED and the great work that they do.
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Absolutely. And we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors in this way as we right now talk about the memorial service for Charlie Kirk. Okay. This was, we both agree, very, very powerful. Donald Trump came out and gave his talk afterward and after his speech brought Erica Kirk back out and they were, you know, he was hugging her. She was hugging him as she was crying. So I don't know how anybody can, you know, not have a softened heart to stuff like that. Although I don't know if you watched Donald Trump's speech, but, you know, one of the things I was telling my audience, John, is that I'm not one of those people who tries to find fault with Trump. I know a lot of people do. It's like no matter what it is, it's like, okay, but he's bad about this, he's bad about this, whatever. But I do have to admit, for all of Trump's strengths, one of his quote-unquote weaknesses, if I was going to call it that, is he does not know how to display tenderness. I mean, he just really doesn't. He's pretty harsh, straightforward, direct. He doesn't have a
SPEAKER 02 :
My wife will tell you that he and I are a lot alike, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
And say, I feel your pain. Now, in all honesty, there's a positive side. There's a double-edged sword. The negative side of this is, yeah, he doesn't have an empathetic, soft side. He doesn't know how to show tenderness. And a lot of people emotionally want that. But the positive side of that same sword is, John, say what you want about him. The man is authentic. The reason he doesn't do that stuff is because it's like, no, I'm not going to portray a character. I'm not going to do something different than what I really truly am and believe. I'm a tough-as-nails guy who doesn't show emotion, and I'm not going to put on an act. So at a minimum – It's authentic, and we should appreciate the authenticity, even if we do sometimes wish that he was able to show a little more tenderness at times like that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And see, for me, given the role that he has in being president of the United States, especially, and I know to your point, Bob, for some, it bothers them. Not me. I mean, I think because I can relate to him and just what he's got going on in his life, the things that he has seen, the things that he has experienced, and not to say that he doesn't feel, because I can understand where he's coming from. Not that you don't feel these things inside, but You have a role whereby you are the leader of the free world, and yeah, you've got to be authentic at all times, and there's nothing worse than having that person be fake, which I don't want. I'd rather have him be exactly the way he is, false and all, Bob, as opposed to having somebody that's fake.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And you know what? And I can totally understand that with what he's dealing in foreign policy right now, he doesn't want Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping or Kim Jong-un or the mullahs in Iran. He doesn't want any of those people to see him displaying any kind of human or emotional weakness. He wants them to see him as a steady, unshakable rock, no matter the circumstance. And we could debate all day long about whether he should be more well-rounded in that way. But Who cares? This is who he is.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I would say for those that would say he should be, I would disagree. No, in his role with what he does, no, he shouldn't be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. No, and look, I get that. Even though I do think it's appropriate for him to hug her on stage. Absolutely. There's a tornado to go visit the people and go hug some families. So absolutely do that stuff. But he doesn't have to exude an Academy Award performance of making fake empathy facial expressions when that's just not who he is.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, and I think for those maybe that don't know this – His own son was very impacted by what happened with Charlie Kirk. You can't tell me that in that way alone that there's not even probably in the secrets of where nobody can see what he's doing, that he doesn't have a few moments where he's like, geez, man, this is tough, and I've got a lot on my shoulders, and I've got my own family now that's been affected by this. Trust me. Again, guys, I can relate. But on the same token, he has a role, to your point, Bob, whereby he has to be strong. He's got to show strength across the board. He's got to show strength not only for the country but for those folks, to your point, around the world. The reality is he can't be any different than he is. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, look, I get that. And I know – I acknowledge that there are some in the audience that are going to say, yes, but showing emotion is a sign of strength or whatever. You know what?
SPEAKER 02 :
Not always.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's a completely separate – not always.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, no, no. And by the way, I would disagree with them. No, not always it isn't. I'm sorry. No, that's where I will disagree. No, it isn't always that case.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so you mentioned Don Jr., of course. No, no, no, Barron.
SPEAKER 02 :
Barron was the one that really, I think, has been the most affected by this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, absolutely. But we got to remember, Charlie Kirk actually was a very close personal friend of the Trump family.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Over the last 10 years, he became very close to them. And I know Don Jr. considered him a very close personal friend.
SPEAKER 02 :
Almost like a brother.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. And he did say that. He said he was like a brother to me. By the way, did you happen to see Don Jr.' 's imitation of his dad at the memorial?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I did not.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was actually pretty funny. And you know what? He didn't do a bad job. Don Jr. came out there and said, look, Charlie Kirk is like – He's like a brother to me. And I admit, he said, I'm not the kind of person to shed a tear. He said, I'm more of the kind of person to post harsh and sometimes inappropriate or insensitive memes on social media. And he says, and believe it or not, he says, I even get caught on the carpet from that guy. And he points up to his dad. And there's Trump sitting there behind a bulletproof glass, but he's smiling. That's funny. And then Don Jr. says, yeah, he even comes up to me and he holds up his hands in the Donald Trump way. And he goes, Don, Don, you're getting too crazy in the social media, Don. Can you tone it down? And everybody's just dying laughing. Trump's up there cracking up laughing. That's funny. It was a pretty good invitation that he did, actually. But in other words, he's making the joke that, hey, what does it say when Donald Trump is telling me, hey, can you tone it down? That's funny. But it had a lot of great moments in it. So I'm curious, though, to get your take, John, on the future of Turning Point USA. Because I've been thinking about this. Part of me says... okay, this movement is a powerful movement and it can grow and get even bigger. And it's the movement itself that is crucial. It's not just Charlie Kirk is the engineer. You can get a new engineer that the train is moving. That's what matters. But then there's this other part of me that wonders how much of this comes down to the talent. And in a weird kind of way, I... I've joked around many times. I'm an Elvis fan. I remember when Elvis died. I was a teenager when Elvis died. Well, Elvis was scheduled to perform a concert that night. It's not like, well, the Elvis concerts can go on. No, because it all centered around Elvis, and it's like they came to see him. True. wondering about Turning Point USA. How much of this was on Charlie Kirk's shoulders? Because I don't think that anybody is going to be as skilled and talented and be able to engage one-on-one blind answers and questions. from people the way that Charlie Kirk did. He was in fact a master of that. So how much of the future of Turning Point USA hinges on the skills and talents that Charlie Kirk himself brought to the table versus the movement itself just trying to reach young people?
SPEAKER 02 :
Great question. And that's something I did talk about even last week and before the memorial. And that was before even the announcement that Erica would, you know, come behind him and take over the organization and move forward. And that was Charlie's wishes. And by the way, I'm not saying that's, that's a, that's, Probably wouldn't have been my number one choice, but I'm not internal to the organization. I'm not Charlie Kirk. I don't know what all of the inner workings were. I do know that when there's high talent like him doing a lot of the things that he did, this is what it's all going to depend on. How well he did at the leadership end of things and instilling some of those things in the people that are now left behind will tell you how well the organization does moving forward because nobody can replace him. I don't care what anybody says. There might be some people that come along that are close. There'll never be anybody like him. Just like Bob, no one will ever be you. No one will ever be me. That's just the way things are. No matter how much somebody might try to imitate that, It's never going to happen. Now, depending upon how Erica comes in, what they do leadership-wise, how they train and teach some of the folks that are now on these college campuses, and you're right, they're never going to be able to debate and do things the way that Charlie did. Doesn't mean, though, that the power of the gospel... And the message there can't still be portrayed to all of these kids on campuses. In fact, it might be a little easier for them now to do so given what's happened. So that's the one plus that they have that Charlie didn't have is it might actually be easier for them to actually get that message across than it once was. So only time will tell how things go. And a lot of this is going to, I hate to say it this way, Bob, but a lot of this is going to fall on Erica's shoulders because she is now the leader at the top. And that old saying, John Maxwell always said, everything rises and falls on leadership.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, absolutely. And so this is where we do find out what kind of organizational and structural leadership can she show, recruiting the right talent, who are the leaders in the organization right now, and can they manage this effectively? I guess what I wonder about is for all the people When you look at the millions, the hundreds of millions of views that Charlie Kirk has had in all of his videos over the years, it hasn't been people saying, oh, Turning Point USA has – I got to watch that and see who's debating. It's like, no, it was all centered around I want to watch Charlie Kirk in action. It was about Charlie Kirk. And so, yeah, now – I kind of wonder, do they need to maybe have some new rising star who's a master debater who rises up to the surface and that becomes the focal point? Or are people going to be interested enough to see, okay, well, here's a Turning Point USA thing happening at such and such a college. And so let me tune in here and see who the TPUSA debater is here taking on the kids. So are unnamed people going to be enough to drive the views, which is where the money is coming from? Is it going to be enough to drive that?
SPEAKER 02 :
And the answer is no. Or are they going to have to have a star that rises to – There's been some chatter, and I don't know how true any of this is, but some of you may or may not know Milo – I'll probably get his last name wrong – Anopolis. Am I saying that right, Bob? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
There's some talk that he may be somebody that could come into some of these events and do some debating and things like that, which, by the way, he's as good of a debater probably as – probably even as good a debater as Charlie Kirk, only not as soft. He's much harsher, of course, than what Charlie is and, of course, doesn't have the same belief system at all that Charlie had.
SPEAKER 04 :
Evangelical Christians would be turned off by – if I remember right, I think he has kind of a – almost a gay persona about him?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, he married his boyfriend, so he is gay, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, okay. So, yeah. So, that makes it difficult for the evangelical Christians, which are a big part of the Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA movement. So, it seems to me that if they do have a rising star, it's going to have to be somebody that can appeal to evangelical Christians as well. But We got a lot more to talk about in the second half, folks. Trump's UN speech, Jimmy Kimmel. But first, we do want to take a moment and remind you that we want you to support our sponsors like Preborn. So if you haven't given to Preborn in a while, would you consider doing it again? You're saving babies' lives by paying for ultrasound images in pro-life centers. So here's how you give. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. And the amount that you give, well, pray about a number because $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion. So how many abortions will you stop? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Maybe it's 100 babies. Well, it's $2,800. But either way, go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. pray about a number. And you can also give over the phone. They answer the phones 24-7, 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. And don't forget, every penny goes to ultrasounds, nothing for overhead because that's all covered by private donors. So CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn and click on SunPowerLED while you're there, John.
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SPEAKER 04 :
And we do have a lot to tackle on the second half of this podcast. Jimmy Kimmel coming back, Trump's United Nations speech. And John Rush, Rush Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Dutko, The Bob Dutko Show out of Detroit. Neil Boren will be back with us next week. And we've got the second half coming up next.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is a Crawford Media Group production.
SPEAKER 04 :
We'll continue in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Dutko, The Bob Dutko Show out of Detroit. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. Neil will be back with us next week. So, all right, John, first half we talked about Charlie Kirk's memorial and the future of TPUSA. All right, Jimmy Kimmel, let's talk about him. He's back now. Okay. Now, we're recording this on Wednesday morning. So last night, Tuesday night, was his first day back. And just for a little bit of background for people who maybe aren't completely familiar, he was suspended indefinitely, ABC said. Because he blamed MAGA for producing the shooter of Charlie Kirk. He said, quote, we hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. This shooter was clearly a leftist. He hated Charlie Kirk. We now know this. He was in a homosexual relationship with his transgender lover. And so Jimmy Kimmel flat out lied, and he knew that this was a lie. He gets suspended. Next Star and Sinclair, which are a couple of large ABC affiliates, they control a total of 66 stations out of about 240 total. So this is about a fourth of his audience. They pulled his show, and they have said, we're not bringing him back. ABC did decide to bring him back. And there's a lot to talk about regarding Jimmy Kimmel. But first, I am kind of curious, John, as a businessman, tell me your thoughts on the business decision for ABC to do this. If Nexstar and Sinclair are still leaving him off the air, that's about a fourth of the ABC audience. I can't imagine his shows making money if Stephen Colbert is losing 40, 50 million a year and Jimmy Kimmel had lower ratings than him. So is it the left-wing anger that hell hath no fury like liberals scorned?
SPEAKER 02 :
Business decision.
SPEAKER 04 :
What was it?
SPEAKER 02 :
If I was them, I'd have made the same decision. I said this yesterday. This is a business decision. His contract is up at the end of December. It's cheaper to leave him on air for the next three months, which that's really all it is. In fact, you take some of the holidays out of it. It's probably not even that. I don't know exactly how many days you would actually have to worry about him and and the payroll and so on. But at the end of the day, you let his contract run out cheaper than all of the legalities that you'll go through trying to defend your, you know, quote unquote firing of him. Cause you know, he's going to go get attorneys and sue them. So at the end of the day, the cheapest route is to finish out his contract and call it good. And then my prediction is they will not renew his contract.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. That actually makes sense. I mean, it really does. Cheapest path to the end. Okay, okay. I mean, to be honest with you, I was thinking that because of all the liberal outrage that ABC, well, Disney, that they realized, well, hold on a minute, we've already alienated half of the American public with the Disney brand and with ABC. And so we're trying to make a living and pay our bills just on the liberal half. And now if we lose half the liberal half, that becomes unsustainable for us. But you know what? You make a very fair point. If he's only got three months left on his contract, let's ride this thing out. And then that way we don't have to spend millions on lawsuits.
SPEAKER 02 :
And they will have, and the bean counters know this, they will have a spike in ratings for a week or two while people look to see exactly what he says. I want to talk about some of what he did say last night, which by the way, he's completely false and Still lying, by the way, about certain things, which I'll talk about. But at the end of the day, Bob, I think the bean counters looked at that and said, wait a minute, we can still get some advertisers. People are going to want to be involved in this because of the spike that we're going to have. We'll be okay financially until the end of the year. But again, my prediction is unless something dramatic with him happens, some sort of a turnaround scenario, Huge rating increases. The other affiliates come back, which I don't think they're going to. They may then renew his contract. But my feeling, Bob, is that ain't going to happen. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that's a very good prediction. And we'll see.
SPEAKER 02 :
In other words, for all those out there thinking this might be politically motivated, nope, this is a bean counter decision.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it is. It is. What he said last night, though, he flat out lied through his teeth. If he had just come out and said, you know something, I made a joke about the shooter to Charlie Kirk, number one, the funeral hadn't even happened yet. This is not a time for me to be trying to seek laughs out of anything surrounding his murder. So I apologize for that. And number two, I said his murderer was a part of MAGA, and he clearly wasn't, and I shouldn't have said that. And so I am sorry about that. If he had done that, John, I think you and me would be like, okay, he's still a scumbag, but at least he apologized. I'm still not interested in the show.
SPEAKER 02 :
But the guy doubled down and lied again. Well, and he goes on to feed this narrative, which, by the way, I can't believe that he believes this. We can talk about some of this, Bob, if you want to, but this is what he said. To those who had a hand in Jimmy Kimmel's live being suspended, Kimmel said, that's not legal, that's not American, it's un-American. It was 1,000% legal for them to do whatever they wanted. He is employed by them. There's a contract. I guarantee you there is a... There's a clause in there that if they want to pull him for any reason because of something he said, they can definitely do so, just like Crawford could pull you and I if we say something that goes completely against Crawford Broadcasting. The reality, Bob, is they are in control and there's nothing illegal about what they did.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know there's not. And this is not a case either where Trump pulled him off the air. No, it is not a violation of free speech. OK, Brendan Carr, the FCC chair. Now, you can debate and argue whether or not, you know, did he did he voice too much personal opinion about this or whatever with his, you know, we could do this easy way or the hard way. But bottom line, the FCC chairman issued a warning to ABC saying you better control your people better, OK, because these are public airways and you have responsibility to them or whatever. So there's warning language given, but it was ABC that made the decision you're right, and there's nothing even remotely illegal about that. So that's just a joke. But my goodness, John.
SPEAKER 02 :
And really quick for everybody listening. Yeah. They made the right call in what they did, even if it was for just a week in doing what they did. They at least sent a message that, wait a minute, timeout. What he said wasn't okay, and they've even said – We had some long discussions with Jimmy on what we're doing moving forward, exactly what we're in those discussions. Guarantee you those discussions included Jimmy. You don't have free speech. You don't have free reign to say whatever you want to. You still work for us.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. Okay, so last night he – choking back tears. And it's like, oh, come on, Jimmy Kimmel. But to say, it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. You went for a laugh line about the murder, okay? So what do you mean it was not your intent to make light? It wasn't your intent to make people laugh, okay? Because that's what you attempted to do. So it was your intention to make light of the murder. Secondly, when he said, nor was it my intention to blame any specific group, that the shooter didn't represent anyone, okay? And he claims, that's the point I was trying to make? No, it wasn't. You specifically said he represents MAGA, okay? You did blame a specific group. MAGA people, you blamed them. So he blames them directly. Then he comes out and says, you know, I wasn't trying to blame any specific group. It's like, hey, these aren't the droids you're looking for. The feeble Jedi might, gaslighting, if you will, Just flat out saying, no, no, no, no, no, that's not what I was saying. It was just misconstrued by people. What a flat out liar, John.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, absolutely. And including what I just said a moment ago. And you just go on. And what cracks me up is I had a liberal that I was texting back and forth yesterday who basically says this is how that hardcore liberal left believes Bob, basically saying that he didn't say that MAGA thing. was the ones that this kid was actually on the side of Maggie. He really didn't say that. Bob, you just read it. That's exactly what he said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Those were his, and I'll read it one more time. He said, quote, we hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.
SPEAKER 02 :
Key word there, as anything other than one of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
The MAGA gang is trying to convince people that this shooter wasn't one of them.
SPEAKER 02 :
How is that not saying he's a part of them?
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. It was not my intention to blame any specific group, okay? Yes, it was. That was specifically the English word. You know what? We can speak English. Maybe some illegal aliens who don't speak English can be confused by this. But, you know, words matter, and those are the words you spoke, okay? So, oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 02 :
As anything other than one of them. Key word. One of them. One of them. Them, right. The mega group. I mean, Bob, how much clearer can it be?
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. And you know what? Jimmy Kimmel, apologize and we will accept your apology. We're not going to become fans and watch your show, but we'll at least say, okay, you did the right thing. You apologized. You owned it. You stood up like a man. We accept that. On that, we respect you. On everything else, we don't respect what you do and we don't like your show, but at least that we do. But this, it's like, come on, you're weaselier than we thought you were before.
SPEAKER 02 :
And really quick, Bob, and I know we're always short on time, but I do want to go back to it really quick because there's so much misconception, even from our side, on what is free speech. And I've said it on my show a gazillion times. I'll say it here. When you, as either a contractor, which he probably is, or you're an employee, the reality is you've agreed to perform a service, sell your time. In the case of an employee, you've agreed to sell your time to that employer for X amount per hour, per week, per day, whatever it is, whatever the magic number is that you guys have come up with, you have agreed to sell that company your time, meaning they now own your time and meaning they can tell you what you're going to wear, how you're going to act, how you're going to handle, interact with customers, what you're actually going to say. And if there's something that you do that they don't like, they're within their free will to let you go because you violated the agreement that you had with them and they don't like what you're doing. You know, Basically, they're your customer, and they don't like the service you're providing, so they're going to fire you. That's what, Bob, I can't get enough employees out there to realize that they're your customer. You are really self-employed at that point, and if they don't like the service you're delivering, you're not there any longer.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if you don't like the parameters that they set for you, then you can move on.
SPEAKER 02 :
Then don't do that.
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SPEAKER 02 :
I watched portions of it and really saw the stuff that I felt was extremely strong. So, yeah, again, I didn't watch sort of like the memorial for Charlie Kirk. I didn't watch all of it, but watched enough to see exactly what he said in certain cases. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll tell you what, I know the media is giving a hard time for this. No real surprise. It's like, oh, look how he, you know, look at how he is browbeating other nations of the world. Who does he think he is or whatever? And, you know, it occurs to me, John, that we're so used to seeing the U.S. president, whoever he is. I hate to say it, Republicans, too, but especially Democrats. get up there and they don't act like the leader of the free world. They act like a voice in the chorus and almost embarrassed and defensive of the United States and praising other countries and such. And Donald Trump gets up there and he's like, look, everybody calls the president of the U.S. the leader of the free world. OK, well, he's like, well, I'm going to act like the leader of the free world, which is to say, you know what? Here's what we need. Like, for example, he called out the United Nations for not helping negotiate these seven peace deals that he did in seven months. He said, quote, I didn't even get a phone call from the U.N. What's the purpose of the U.N.? He called them out. for buying energy from Russia. Said, stop doing that. We got plenty of energy to sell you. He talked about securing borders. And if you don't secure your borders and stop this globalism stuff, then you know what? Your countries are going to go to blank, the H word. And then he ripped global warming. I said, used to be global cooling, they said. Then they changed it to global warming. Now it's climate change. He said, this is the greatest con job of the world. If you don't get away from the green energy scam, your countries are going to fail. He defended the tariffs, said they're good and necessary because U.S. isn't going to be taken advantage of anymore. And that on planet Earth, Christianity is the most persecuted religion on Earth. And I'm sitting there thinking, he's looking these people in the eye around the world, and he's doing what the leader of the free world is supposed to do, not try to be dictator of the world. He can't do that. But to say, you know what? Leaders lead. And he's saying, this is what we need to be doing on planet Earth. I thought it was a great speech.
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Oh, I think so, too. And in his really just calling green energy the scam that it really is. In fact, I always say there's no such thing as green energy because without oil, you don't produce any of it in the first place. So reality is it's not green. It's about the farthest thing from it you could ever imagine. And yeah, kudos to him for actually standing up to your point, looking these others, these other leaders in the eye and basically saying you continue to go down this path. It'll be the downfall of your country. You know what? Those are words of wisdom they should take to heart.
SPEAKER 04 :
They really should. And talking about the windmills themselves and people trying to survive on them. And he pointed out, I love what he said to the European nations, too. He said, you guys, European nations, you have reduced your carbon footprint by 37%. But meanwhile, the Earth's carbon footprint has raised by 54% because nations like China and such, they don't follow those rules. And it's not necessary anyway. And then he talked about Obama and the Paris Climate Accord. And he says, here was Obama at the time talking about we need to reduce our carbon footprint. Then he gets on Air Force One and flies out to Hawaii to go golfing. You want to talk about carbon footprints. He's like, come on, this whole thing is a scam. I'll tell you what, I –
SPEAKER 02 :
No, him literally calling it that, which, by the way, he is a thousand percent correct. That is exactly what it is. That is the ultra wealthy liberal rich getting richer off the backs of those that are underneath them. The underlings, if you would, Bob, at the end of the day, that all it is, is the fleecing of the average Joe in every country.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, this is not really a big deal, and Trump made jokes about it. But the escalator and the teleprompter issue, for people who don't know, when Donald and Melania Trump at the United Nations got on the escalator to take them up, as soon as they get on the escalator, escalator shuts down. They're like, okay. And then they had to walk up the escalator, turned into a stairwell at that point. And they had to walk up. So no real harm. All right. Then he gets out there, starts his speech. Teleprompter's not working. Okay. So now he's got to read out of the book. And I know that Caroline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, she's like, we want to look into this. We want to find out why this is. The United Nations says, hey, it's not us. The escalator, we think that somebody from Trump's team, a videographer said, may have ran up the escalator and came down and inadvertently triggered the alarm system that will shut it down so somebody doesn't get trapped in the gears of it or whatever. And the teleprompter, we say this is run by the White House. Well, the White House is saying... No, this is baloney. Number one, you guys are running the teleprompter at the UN. And number two, the escalator. If that's the case, then why in the world of every escalator Trump takes everywhere in America and all over the world that's never happened except that time at the United Nations? It does sound like somebody was trying to embarrass him and make him look bad by a couple of technical glitches. It's not the end of the world. No big deal. Trump made light of it. He joked around about it.
SPEAKER 02 :
But- The funniest thing on the teleprompter is, you know, I think in some cases they would think, oh, gee, you know, now now he can't function. Now he can't really give a solid speech. The reality is he probably got more vicious not having it working than he would have had been working.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is true. I mean, Trump is getting better about that. You're right. He worked off the book. And he still did a good job working off the book. And I'll tell you what else is interesting, too. I don't know if you noticed. Like I say, I watched the whole speech. One thing about Donald Trump, he's not a smooth communicator. No, I'll know that. All right. So, John, you and I, we're professional communicators. So we could be given a script. And I don't think your average person is going to be – John, you're enough of a pro. Your average person is not going to know when you've gone off script.
SPEAKER 02 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
With Donald Trump, it's very, very obvious.
SPEAKER 02 :
But really quick, the average person doesn't know when you and I have technical difficulties because you work through those.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 02 :
You never say, oh, gee, the computer just went blank. No, you never say that on air. You just roll along like it's working.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Exactly. And so but with Trump, it is obvious you can watch any speech that he gives and you can know exactly what was on the teleprompter and when he veered off of it. OK, fine. He veered off of it a lot. But you know what? To be addressing the nations of the world, for everybody who says, oh, Donald Trump is so reckless and he doesn't know how to be presidential, he doesn't know how to get – no, I mean, he did a good job. He was a little bit braggadocious, but he was braggadocious on America.
SPEAKER 02 :
He always is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Here's what we've accomplished in this country. Here's why America is the greatest nation. And he pointed out, and this is true, we have more coal, oil, and gas in America than any other nation on earth. Why in the world are you buying it from Russia? We'll gladly sell it to you. Quit helping Russia fuel and fund the Ukrainian war.
SPEAKER 02 :
The one thing I wish he would have said is, you know, while everybody around the world is touting green energy and you got to do this and you got to do that, you got to build these windmills, these solar panels and so on, and yet China's putting a coal plant in every week.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know.
SPEAKER 02 :
I wish he would have said that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what? I do too. That's a good point. He did say that China doesn't follow these carbon emission rules or whatever, but he didn't.
SPEAKER 02 :
But he could have easily added what I just said into that. I agree. By the way, that's the truth. That's not an exaggeration. That's exactly what they're doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. That's right. Regarding Trump, though, and his speech and the way that he talked to the nations, I think is great. I do want to, in our last couple of minutes, get your take real quick on the Ukraine thing. It looks like Donald Trump is telling Putin, OK, fine, doesn't look like I can work with you. I'm going to go join arms with Zelensky at this point. And now Trump is even saying maybe Ukraine could keep all of their land. I know his critics are going to say, oh, here's Trump vacillating from one side to the other side. No, it's called negotiation. He's putting leverage on Putin saying, hey, you know what? Guess what? You really want me to completely align myself with Zelensky now? You're going to lose in this. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, no. This is for those of you that don't know how to negotiate. This is he is the master negotiator, Bob. And this is how you negotiate when you can't get one side to move. Basically, you go to them and say, you know what? All these things we've talked about, the deals we've had on the table. Guess what? They're now gone. We're going to start over from square one. And oh, by the way, I might side more with your adversary than what I was once before to just poke you in the eye. So the reality is, if you're not willing to move, guess what? You're going to have something to pay for when it's all said and done. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
So he's not vacillating. He's getting stronger is what he's doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what? I could not agree with you more. And this is the way the weak thing would have been to keep on running to Putin and begging him to try to get involved. This is, in essence, Donald Trump is doing what Ronald Reagan did with Mikhail Gorbachev. In Reykjavik, and that's where he gets up and, well, I'm out of here, and gets up and walks out of there, and people are like, oh, how can you do that? But you know this as a salesman, too, and sales sometimes is called the takeaway. He's doing a little bit of a takeaway with Vladimir Putin. He's like, okay, let's see. Here we were. We were getting close to a deal where you could have actually got some of the Ukraine's land. Yeah, exactly. You could have got some of Ukraine's land. I was willing to go with that. And you could have stopped the killing. And we could have come up with a way to make you look like you came out of this with a victory. And you're going all or nothing. Okay, then fine. Let's go nothing then. Let's just go nothing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
The sale just ended.
SPEAKER 02 :
The sale just ended. And I've been in those situations before where you've been trying to negotiate with somebody on a sale per se, Bob, to where you kind of get close to the end. You think you've got a deal done and all of a sudden the other person decides, yeah, no, I don't I don't want to do that any longer. You know what? Then naturally you just come back and say, guess what? Then the deal's off the table. We're going to go back to square one. And guess what? All the deals that I've been giving you, they're no longer in existence.
SPEAKER 04 :
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Estate planning isn't just about financial security; it's about peace of mind. In this episode, Michael Bailey discusses the numerous considerations and steps involved in creating a personalized estate plan. Using relatable personal stories, Michael explains the intricacies of choosing guardianship for children, the importance of life insurance, and how to responsibly plan for unforeseen circumstances. The episode challenges listeners to consider the questions: Who will take care of my children? How will they be provided for? This conversation is a must-listen for anyone contemplating their estate planning needs.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end of life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
SPEAKER 01 :
All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey. So we can do something besides just leave your family alone. You are listening to KLZ 560 AM or 100.7 FM. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, that's 720-394-6887. So I feel like I talk a lot about very similar topics when I talk about estate planning. I talk about why you need to do it and why it's so important, how we personalize and customize it. And I feel like I keep, sometimes I feel like I keep banging that same drum of, hey, we need to do this. Yes, we need to do this. Why do you need to do this? And I've read, so I'm, this is because I am an estate planning attorney and I end up in various discussion groups with other estate planning attorneys and you know, online, you know, whether it's people I'm connected to via LinkedIn or people I'm connected to via Facebook or other social media platforms, sometimes people will talk about and we all kind of have variations on the same theme of why you want to do your estate plan. And I was reading somebody's post the other day where they talked about how something like 73 to 75 to 77% of Americans think that it's important to have a plan in place for death, and it's a good thing to do. And yet, the numbers of how many actually have one in place is between 12% and 31%, depending on which study you believe. So obviously, there's some sort of disconnect between people who say, yes, we need to have that planned, and people who actually go ahead and do it. So a lot of what I talk about in doing an estate plan is trying to be like, hey, we actually need to get this done. We don't need to put it off. And I think there's lots of reasons that people put it off. One, I think the biggest reason is that everybody believes that they're going to die. Everybody knows it's going to happen. It's inevitable. It is the end of life. Very, very few people think it's going to happen anytime soon. I have run into clients who have been diagnosed with cancer for a long time and they've been given weeks or months or days left to live. And I'm like, okay, they probably have a pretty good idea that it is going to happen soon. And they want to try to plan ahead. But most people, I mean, probably all of you out there listening, driving around, I would guess that something in the high 98, 99% of you don't think that you're going to die anytime soon. I would put myself in that category. I don't have any plans to die anytime soon. I imagine, Charlie, you probably feel the same way. I'm getting a head nod from Mr. Charlie. He doesn't think he's going to die anytime soon. Very few of us do. And so because we don't have any concerns about dying anytime soon, we tend to not worry too much about planning for our death. And we're like, hey, well, we have time. We'll get to that. Whether it's, oh, well, I'll do that after I retire or after I have grandkids or after I'm retired and have grandkids, but I now know it's time to move out of my house because I can't climb the stairs anymore. You know, these are, are those perfectly acceptable times to set up an estate plan? Well, yes, yes, they are. Are they the markers that you have to hit? No, no, they are not. And I like, you know, so my, some of my younger clients, you know, they're in their early twenties and they've just had a baby and they're like, okay, we want to do something. I'm like, cool. I'm like, I really hope I write this for you. And we don't use it for the next 50, 60, 70 years. We just don't want to have that be the thing. We don't want to have that be a problem. We don't want to have it be something where we have some sort of issues or problems going on. And so because of that, but they still plan ahead. I mean, I did my first estate plan right around when I had my first child. Because at that point, it kind of more occurred to me that life wasn't completely about me. Now, I don't think of myself as being a particularly selfish person. I grew up in church where we did service on a mostly regular basis, and I was always involved in service organizations and various things like that. But faced with the reality of, hey, now you have a child. Now she's a 19-year-old sophomore in college. But when we first had her, she was this little tiny thing. I remember when she was born, she was born and she came out face up. And as she was coming out face up, kind of the skin of her face got caught. And so it kind of got pulled down. And she'd been, just the way that it was pulled, she looked a little bit like the gray ghost from Pac-Man. And I'm like, okay, so we just had a child that's a gray ghost from Pac-Man. So as soon as she came out, the doctors took her over to another thing and did whatever they do and kind of get her breathing better on her own. Oddly enough, when you've never breathed on your own, it's a... Not the most natural practice thing. So they got her going and then they brought her back. I'm like, okay. But I'm like, just because I hadn't seen a whole lot of newborn babies, I didn't quite know what to expect. But suddenly I had this little tiny thing that was born as a gray ghost from Pac-Man. And then they'd had a little suction things. Her head was a little bit cone. So I'm like, so I have a gray ghost from Pac-Man who looks like a cone head. I'm like, she's perfectly fine now. It hasn't been a, you know, she didn't turn into a conehead because those are Saturday Night Live characters. But still, suddenly I was like, oh, okay. This little tiny, not completely helpless, but almost fully helpless creature, I'm now responsible for raising. And, you know, I have to, we have to feed her. We have to clothe her. We have to treat her well. you know we have to teach her how to function in the world which you know is for those who have older teenagers is still an ongoing process but you know suddenly i'm responsible for teaching this whole new person new to this world what i'm supposed to do and uh that was a daunting task to start with still seems somewhat daunting to me even though i have a 16 13 and 19 year old, I'm like, well, I'm still trying to figure it out. So you are listening to mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey here on five 60 KLZ AM also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ five 60 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. So we've got this brand new child. And my wife tells me that the way that I drove to the hospital and the way I drove home from the hospital with the baby were completely different driving. I'm like, it's very possible. If you've ever seen the movie Knocked Up when they're driving home from the hospital and the guy's driving like 20 miles an hour on the freeway and everybody's behind him and honking and he's like, they can do whatever they want. I'm not going over 20 in this thing. I mean, I think I've become more responsible as a driver, but that's just one of those things. So that was almost immediate. I became more responsible as a driver. And it's not like I was irresponsible before, but as a dad... most of the things that I do are trying to help my kids learn and grow and do what's best for them. Whether it's picking a college for my oldest or teaching her how to drive a car or one of the One of the early experiences we had was when she was young, we took her trick or treating and she was dressed as a mouse. I think we dressed her as a Mickey Mouse. So she had some ears on and we were crossing the street and her ears fell off as we were crossing the street. So she started to run back out to get the ears and there was a car coming. And I remember I yelled at her, no, no, no, don't do that, kiddo. And she was, you know, very, you know, me yelling her to stop was apparently upsetting to her. So she kind of got a little bit weepy. And I'm like, no, no, I'm not mad at you. I just don't want you to get hit by a car. So we let the car go by, we went and got the ears, got her. And then fortunately there was more candy involved so she could focus on the candy and not the fact that dad was, I mean, I wasn't mad at her, but you know, she heard the, you know, me being a little bit loud and it sounded like I was mad. And so, you know, I'm trying to teach her not to be, you know, that cars are not to be trifled with and you shouldn't jump out in front of them. You know, this seems like a decent life lesson to learn. And, you know, and later on when she was 16 and she, you know, got her driver's license and that night she went off to a dance at the church that we belong to. So there was, our church will put on youth dances sometimes. And so she was awesome. off to a church dance. And so my wife took a video of her driving away in the car. And about 15 minutes later, I got a call from her. And she said, Dad, I can't get the car to start. I'm like, what do you mean you can't get the car to start? She's like, well, the keys are stuck in the ignition, and it won't do anything, and I can't get any. And so she couldn't do anything. So I was like, okay, well, let me come over. I'll see what I can do. So I jumped in the car, in my car, and I drove over to the church, which is about 10, 15 minutes away. And then when I got there, I kind of could see what she was talking about. For some reason, she'd tried to turn the wheel in a certain direction when everything was off. And one of the security features of the car was that if you try to turn the wheel when everything's off, it'll lock everything up and you can't do anything. So... I, being the brilliant dad that I was, knew exactly how to solve this problem, and so I did. And by being the brilliant dad that I am, knowing exactly how to solve the problem, I mean I went and typed in to Google, how do you unstick a steering wheel for this year make and model of the car? and it came back oh this is a security device you have to do this and this and then if you turn the wheel in the same direction as it was turning and turn the key at the same time it'll start the car and then you can you know reset everything and i'm like okay cool and fortunately for me it worked so you know i wasn't the uh yeah i wasn't the dad that knew everything about everything but i did know how to google how to do that and you know could save her so that she could have the car But, you know, somewhere, and now she's off at college, and she called us this weekend. Apparently, her battery had died, so she had it recharged, and then something with the hood not latching properly, her car alarm was going off throughout the night, and she came down to her car with many notes of people who were trying to sleep and not so happy about this. She happened to sleep through it. So she was concerned about that and calling. And even as a 19-year-old, we're still trying to teach her how to function in the world. As a 47-year-old, I'm still trying to learn how to function in the world and make my way through it. So one of the things, you know, so in trying to keep our kids safe from the world and life and everything, you know, I also, you know, I'm still in the midst of, you know, my, you know, paying for food and car and clothing and education. And, you know, since one of my middle daughters is a volleyball player, we pay for shoes and we pay for, you know, club sports and all those type of things. And my... The youngest is also, he's gotten into playing club basketball. So, you know, there's a financial component to it. So one of the things that you, I learned as a new father was, hey, you have to pay for all of this. Okay. Got it. Makes sense. You know, I'm not like upset or bitter about it. It's just one of the things you do. You provide for your kids. That's, you know, make sure that they're fed and watered and clothed and sheltered and all of those type of things. Well, if I am not here, I'm not gonna be able to work. If I were to pass away, then my kids would, I couldn't do my job as an estate planning attorney. I couldn't do any job. So my wife and I looked into obtaining life insurance. And we were like, okay, well, we'll go do the life insurance thing. And especially when we bought a house, we're like, well, we need to have enough life insurance that'll pay the house off. And I don't think it's a coincidence that you have a 30-year mortgage, and you also have a 30-year life insurance policy that you get when you're young because they're affordable when you're in your 20s, and you can get a 30-year policy that'll pay a million dollars. And you're like, cool, well, that'll be enough to pay off the house, and then my wife wouldn't have to go straight back to work. So suddenly the importance of life insurance made sense to me. I didn't worry about life insurance too much when I was a teenager or in college or even newly married. You're like, hey, you know what? I'm a teenager. I'm a college student. I'm newly married. I'm young and I'm invincible. Why in the world would I have life insurance? except for when something drastic or terrible or very tragic happens and you need life insurance to cover the bills and take care of a spouse and kids. And so looking into life insurance. Life insurance is more Al Smith's realm, which his show was right before mine. But with that life insurance, I said, well, okay, so if I die, then pay out to my wife and we'll be good. What happens if my wife and I both die? What if we're on a honeymoon vacation type of thing and we're on an airplane that disappears from the sky like the Malaysia Airlines 370 flight did or one that goes down or any number of options? When I describe it to my clients, they usually say, well, if you're on an airplane that is abducted by aliens and they put the airplane back in the sky but they forget to restart the engine so it plummets to the sky plummets to the earth and there are no survivors? Well, this is problematic. So if my wife and I are both gone, we run into the question of who will raise my kids and how will that money, and if we have life insurance or other money, how will that money be used and who will be in charge of it? And that's the estate planning part of, okay, so who's going to raise the kids? Who will be the guardian? Picking a guardian is an incredibly important thing. My wife and I have our ways that we think about raising kids and we have our approaches and we have our things that we try to do and how we try to teach our children to be good, productive members of society. And our approach to that is different from probably every other married couple on the planet. It's mostly the same as how our parents would have done things. It's mostly the same as how people who are of our faith would do things. It's mostly the same as how people of our community would do things, where we live in a subdivision that most of us are in similar life situations, but it's not exactly the same. And so picking a guardian of who would raise our kids If we were gone is a huge part of that estate plan and not something that I ever realized I would have to do until I had kids. It just didn't occur to me. Not that I wasn't paying attention to anything. It just was not on my radar screen. So you are listening to mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air, 303-477-5600. And again, 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. Once again, 720-394-6887. So picking a guardian. Now, I have three siblings. I have an older sister and I have two younger brothers. And my wife has four siblings, so she has four younger brothers. So when we were looking at who would we want to pick as a guardian, we looked first at our parents and we're like, yeah, but we don't really want to have our moms and dads who are in the grandpa and grandma role. We didn't want to have... Grandpa and grandma have to suddenly become mom and dad and the enforcers and all of those things. We didn't want to take away our grandpa and grandma role from each of our moms and dads. And plus, my mom and dad, they're aging just like all the rest of us are, and so are my in-laws. So we're like, well, that's probably not the direction we want to go. Instead, we looked to our siblings. We said, okay, well, if we've got seven different siblings, let's look and see which of those siblings we would be most comfortable with. And, you know, one of my siblings has never married and has no children. And we love him to death, but we don't think it'd be the greatest idea to drop here, have three kids, good luck, figure out how to raise them. One of my wife's siblings, he's a doctor and they've got four kids. Their three oldest are roughly the same ages as ours. And that would seem like it would be the most similar life situation. Except that we didn't really want, we've tried very hard in our lives, because the kids are so similar in age, we've tried very hard not to have comparison between them and not to have competition between them. Our oldest children are both sophomores in college. Our middle children were actually due on the same day, and no, we did not plan that. But each of our oldest children have had different things that they excel at and different things that they're they're good at, and we've always celebrated each child's accomplishments without needing to compare of, oh, well, this child did this, and this child did this, and that's why they're superior. We've very much tried to avoid that being the type of comparisons. And we thought maybe if they ended up in the same household, it would be inevitable that you'd have the comparisons, and we didn't want to have that be what we were doing. So we we chose to have not them as our guardians. Now, my wife also has a her youngest brother is 14 years younger than she is. Her parents had four kids for a long time and then they had a caboose so to speak that was born eight years after their you know then youngest child and that child he was like 10 when we got married so when we started having kids a few years later he was 15 or 16. we thought maybe picking a 15 or a 16 year old to raise our children might not be the best idea Just because a 15-year-old, 16-year-old, and I have a 16-year-old now, and she's wonderful and marvelous and remarkable and all of those things, but I wouldn't want to burden her with raising a baby or raising young children or even raising her younger brother, the 13-year-old. Last night as we went to bed, he went to give her a hug, and apparently he was wearing some pajamas that were in need of being washed. And she was like, have you ever washed your pajamas? And it was kind of, you know, getting on him about it, which that's what siblings are supposed to do. But I. As a 16-year-old, I'm like, okay, fine. So they went to bed. And this morning, I went and found the pajamas and put them in the washer with some towels so they could wash, and then we can dry them, and they'll be all fresh and clean tonight so they can be worn. We'll take advantage of our modern washers and dryers. where our water washers and dryers can work well. You know, they can wash the clothes while I'm not home and then throw them in the dryer and they can dry the clothes when I'm not around. You know, it's wonderful. It's not quite we have to take the the washing down to the river and pound on it with a rock and soap. I've done that when I've been on long camping trips, but I would prefer the wonderful washer and dryer that I have at home where I put stuff in, put it in soap, click the button that says run a wash cycle, and then I walk away for an hour or two and come back and it's ready to be put in the dryer. It's a wonderful use of modern technology. But all of these things led us to one of the siblings that we were okay with being a guardian. So we named the guardian in the estate plan. Because my children are young, too, and we've ended up with about $3 million of life insurance, if my wife and I both die, there's about $3 million of life insurance that pays out. Well, that's about a million dollars per kid. And what 19-, 16-, or 13-year-old wouldn't love to have a million dollars? I think most would. But do I really want my 13-year-old to have access to a million dollars? No, not really. Do I want my 16-year-old to have access to a million dollars? No, not really. Do I want my 19-year-old? Well, the 19-year-old is a saver, and she's pretty good with finances, so I'd probably be okay with it. But in any case, a million dollars per kid – If I'd had a million dollars at age 13 or 16 or 19, I might have made different choices than I do now. And I might not have been super wise with a million dollars. And maybe by the time I was 25 and going off to law school, I'm like, hey, if I get a million dollars, then I should buy a house and not have to. live in an apartment, all those type of things. But we set up our estate plan so that, in our case, the same people who are raising our kids will also have access to that $3 million, a million dollars per kid, to use to help pay for their life and to raise them. Because that way, once we And there will be money to help pay for things. Because if we had three, now we've only got two that would still need to be raised, but the other one's still in college, so need to be paid for. But when they were young kids, and I'm like, oh, hey, hey, Hugh, family, you have your own four kids. Here's, you have your own four kids. Here's three more kids. Good luck, figure it out. Well, no, we're like, okay, here's three kids. Here's $3 million to help raise them. You know, please use that money wisely, use it to take care of them and use your good adult judgment that you have so that you can take care of those kids and raise them. And the terms of using that money is that it's supposed to be used for their health, education, support, and maintenance. It's supposed to be used to raise them. You're not supposed to just take it and use it for yourself. You know, if you need to take them on vacation, you can use the money for vacation. But you don't need to buy yourself a really fancy sports car or unnecessarily luxurious furniture and things like that. If you suddenly have seven kids to raise as opposed to four, you might need to find a bigger house that can hold everybody. And that's perfectly fine, too. But we didn't want to burden the people who were raising our kids with saying, oh, sorry, you know, I guess you've got more kids. Figure it out. That's not what we were trying to do. Rather, we were trying to make sure that our kids are taken care of, make sure that, you know, even in our absence, they're raised properly and the money is there to take care of them. So with that, we set up an estate plan. So there's various moments in life that spur us to do things. One of mine was when my first child was born. Other people might have different moments. But as we work on doing so, we can get our kids so we can have an estate plan to take care of them. So thanks so much for listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey. My direct line again, 720-394-6887. I will be back next week, but stay tuned for John Rush and Rush to Reason, and we'll see you next week. Thanks and bye.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey will return to ATX next Wednesday at 2.30 here on KLZ 560, AM 560, FM 100.7, and online at klzradio.com.

In this episode, we delve into the issue of political weaponization as Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer joins us in the studio. We discuss the recent revelations of the FBI targeting conservative organizations, including notable figures such as Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA. With Florida at the epicenter, Uthmeyer outlines the state’s commitment to tackling these injustices and the steps being taken to hold wrongdoers accountable. The Attorney General shares insights into Florida's unique position in navigating national political challenges while maintaining its reputation as a law and order state. From addressing the open carry law changes to tackling the delicate balance between free and hate speech, Uthmeyer presents a candid examination of how Florida continues to safeguard constitutional rights while ensuring public safety. Join us as we explore these pressing issues and more with one of the leading legal minds of the state. Additionally, we explore how political divisions shape policy enforcement across the states and why Florida's stance on conservative values finds resonance with the rising number of residents flocking to the Sunshine State. As Florida reinforces its commitment to safety and justice, discover why it's becoming a beacon for those seeking refuge from more turbulent political landscapes.
SPEAKER 01 :
Every day, it just feels like we're getting hit over and over again with new news and more information. Here's the latest. Biden's FBI, it was revealed yesterday, targeted Charlie's Turning Point USA. The FBI director, Kash Patel, and Chuck Grassley, revealed that this political weaponization was continuing and was underway. And so what a rare treat we have. And this is kind of fun for us here in our Tampa Bay studios because we've never had an in-studio guest before. So we're breaking in our guest position with the Attorney General from the state of Florida, James Utmeyer, who graduated from the University of Florida. Mark Lecker, one of our guys here, said he's a gator. He's a gator. Make sure everybody knows that the Attorney General is a gator. Mr. Attorney General, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. It's great having you. Great to be here.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, I know you've got some business here in Tampa Bay, so we thought we'd have you stop by and talk about some really tricky, difficult issues. Of course, Florida, I drive around, lots of flags at half-staff, a lot of people in shock and disbelief that this happened. arguably America's most prominent conservative influencers, Charlie Kirk, who had deep Florida connections. One of my first text message exchanges with him a few years ago was him talking about residing in Tampa. So he's obviously near and dear to Floridians. Can we start with this shocking news that the – was apparently targeting a number of conservative organizations, including Turning Point USA, of all things. And I understand that as Attorney General of Florida, you have a response to that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Yesterday, the Senate Judiciary Committee confirmed what many of us already knew, which is that Biden officials at the Department of Justice and FBI were targeting almost 100 individuals and organizations because of their conservative or Republican beliefs. organizations like Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA, like the Republican Attorneys General Association, our political arm for the AGs. Obviously, everybody at home knows what happened to the president. So we're going to go after these people. We're going to use every tool that we have civilly and criminally, possible civil rights violations, and we'll have subpoenas going out in the weeks ahead to gather as much info as we can on who, what individuals were involved.
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, I don't think people even comprehend the connection that Florida has to a lot of these national issues. I mean, one of the assassination attempts, of course, on President Trump's life happened on a golf course here in Florida. So you definitely have your hands full. I think Americans all over are thankful that Florida is going to take a lead here in trying to get to the bottom of this. Mr. Attorney General, this has got to stop. We've got to stop seeing the FBI used for going after groups or organizations that have a political ideology that maybe the current administration doesn't agree with. And it would include the current one, too. We shouldn't weaponize the Justice Department in any way, shape, or form.
SPEAKER 02 :
No. Malicious prosecutions and political witch hunts have no place in our justice system. A lot of these organizations and influencers, they call Florida home. They're based here. People at home here know by now in Florida, we don't just talk the talk. We actually do something about it. We're a rule of law state. We're action oriented. And we're going to pursue this investigation and hold as many wrongdoers accountable as we can.
SPEAKER 01 :
We're visiting with the Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer here in the studios of the Mike Gallagher Show. We're glad you're with us. And if you have any questions or input for the Attorney General, feel free to text us your comments. And that's a good way for us to share those with him. 800-655-MIKE. Because you're doing a fantastic job. I'm not saying that because you're sitting here. I'm so proud to have been driven out of New York City a few years ago and becoming a Florida resident like so many others. We're glad to have you. Sean Hannity. We're all glad to have you. Governor DeSantis, we've talked about, look, getting out of other, some of these, and that's a big deal, right? Because people are fleeing blue states and coming to a place like Florida that seems to have its act together.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, we've got big cities, Tampa, Miami, but we don't have all these murders and crime rates that you see in big cities, in sanctuary states, in blue states. I think that's why so many people are flocking here. We want this to be the safest place to raise a family. We support law enforcement. We support free speech. And if people cross the line and want to threaten or harass others, we hold them accountable.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and perhaps one of the reasons we don't have the kind of mass shootings and some of the violence you see in big blue cities is not only do we have Republican legislators like your boss, like you, that have common sense response, including the right to keep and bear arms. And that's been a big issue recently here in Florida, and that's the whole issue of open carry in Florida. Can you bring us up to date on where that is?
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right. Last week, the appellate court up in the Northern District of Florida, the First District Court of Appeals, they struck down a longstanding Florida law that prohibits open carry. They struck it down following recent United States Supreme Court decisions. They struck it down as inconsistent with our Constitution and the interpretation derived from the time of the founding. This is the right result. It becomes the law of the state. I'm happy to see it. But I also warn people, don't abuse it. If you go out there and you're open, caring in a way that's violent, threatening, harassing, again, we will hold you accountable. We have a strong commitment to the Constitution, but we also have a strong commitment to fighting crime in the state of Florida.
SPEAKER 01 :
We're having a big debate, certainly in our world, over free speech versus hate speech. And the Attorney General of the United States this week, Pam Bondi, Floridian, has gotten tongues wagging over some comments she made on a podcast. If you don't mind, if you can be with us for a few more minutes, I want to ask you about that and more. Of course, yeah. We're talking to the Attorney General, James Utmeyer, here in the Mike Gallagher Show studios, and we're glad you're with us. Mr. Attorney General, I've got to ask you about the provocative remarks from the United States Attorney General, Pam Bondi. A lot of Tampa AGs. A lot of Tampa AGs. I've gotten them all mixed up. Pam Bondi said this week that we will go after you. We will target people with hate speech. You can't incite people to kill people. This is a tough, tough area because on the one hand, if you're calling somebody like Charlie Kirk a fascist over and over and over and over again, and then some 22-year-old carves the word apparently fascist on bullets and bullet shell casings and kills him, somebody could say that speech led to what happened to Charlie. On the other hand, Charlie himself once posted, there is no such thing as hate speech in America. There's gross speech, there's reprehensible speech, there's evil speech, but there's no hate speech. Can you give me the Florida Attorney General's perspective on how to deal with this very complicated issue? Sure.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I think what A.G. Bondi was saying is speech that starts to directly call for violence or threaten certain individuals, speech that's so specific in nature, wanting to cause harm to people, that will not be tolerated. It certainly can be prosecuted if you are directly calling for somebody to be harmed or killed. But look, there's a lot of speech out there that's gross. There's speech out there that I strongly disagree with. But that is why we have the First Amendment. We're supposed to have the disagreement and the discourse, the exchange of ideas, the ability to even criticize people in our own government. So, no, people can't be prosecuted for free speech. But if they're calling for harm to an individual, I'm certainly going to tell our law enforcement to go investigate and look at it. And look, law enforcement, they have difficult decisions to make, but that's why they investigate. They look at the other context. They look at other communications that may be out there that suggest somebody may be a great danger to society. I'll tell you what people don't have a right to, though. They can have all these questions. gross opinions, but that doesn't mean the state has to employ them. So we're looking at all these public school teachers, we're looking at state employees that are celebrating this tragic murder, and we're going to make sure that they lose their jobs. We don't want our little kids in front of somebody that's celebrating such political terrorism.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's not an unreasonable position to take. I mean, like you said, these are teachers. These are mental health professionals. These are state employees who have positions of responsibility and authority. Mr. Attorney General, have you been shocked at the amount of vitriol that has come from people like that?
SPEAKER 02 :
I have been shocked. But I think this is what happens when you've got good versus evil. I mean, I believe we as conservatives, I believe Charlie, we advocate truth. And in a debate, truth will win. Common sense, reason, and truth will win. And when the other side realizes they can't win on the arguments, they turn to danger. They turn to murder. They try to silence us. So we as conservatives, we have to band together. We need to speak louder than ever. We need to continue to advocate for truth because it wins.
SPEAKER 01 :
I want to go back to what was revealed yesterday about the FBI being weaponized, apparently, and targeting a number of conservative organizations. As you said, this isn't new to you or to your office. This is something you've been aware of. This has been an appalling event. And it didn't just happen overnight. This has been building over a matter of years, has it not?
SPEAKER 02 :
It appears that way. You've got a leftist, deep state weaponization of government that is very concerning. I mean, thank God President Trump won, and we are getting to the bottom of it. But at the end of the day, people should never be using government positions of power to go after others, potentially criminally, trying to incarcerate them for years. This is wrong. Our founders are rolling over in their graves because of it. So we are going to continue to investigate. Like I said, we're going to have subpoenas going out within the week. We're going to hold wrongdoers accountable.
SPEAKER 01 :
And that's the way it is done. Why is it so hard? You know, we talk about red states and blue states. And some people jokingly say we ought to have two countries. You know, you want to live in Berkeley? Knock yourself out. You know, but there is, it seems to me, a fundamental failure on the part of a lot of these blue state attorneys general, governors, mayors. county commissioners. It's not hard to be neutral. It's not difficult. And I will say from your office, also Ashley Moody, I have seen the effort to say, look, we got to follow the rule of law. This is about right versus wrong. This isn't about Republicans versus Democrats. There's a lot of Democrats here in Florida, as you know. But ultimately, it's not difficult to do
SPEAKER 02 :
It's not that hard. When you look at the preamble, you know, we the people, but the first thing listed is established justice, rule of law. Supporting law enforcement is going to lead to lower murder rates. Enforcing the law as it's written and not trying to bring in some political animus. It's not difficult. Do your job. Do it right. Enforce the law. That's what the founders would have wanted. It's what I'm going to do. We're going to put bad people away and we're going to make Florida very safe. And I hope the other states in the country will follow.
SPEAKER 01 :
What's What should Floridians be looking forward to and coming next from your office? What do you see on the horizon? Because I know there's a lot of good things that we have in store for us here in the state of Florida.
SPEAKER 02 :
Sure. Our number one priority is to protect our kids, do it in the school system, do it through criminal justice. We've been a part of almost 500 child predator arrests since I took office. We're using technology and social media to identify these evil people that are pursuing these new ways to get to our kids. We've got to protect our next generation. We've got to keep them safe. And people can look out for many more arrests and convictions to get these dangerous predators off the streets.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I know that I speak for Hannity and a lot of fellow broadcasters and hosts who have sought sanctuary here in Florida. And we are so – I mean, I'm so honored to get to spend a little bit of time with you and to brag on Florida to the country because everybody gets it. You know, I mean, and there's challenges. We've got property tax issues and, you know, we've got – Now, for some reason, no hurricanes so far this year, God willing, that that holds. But this is a great place to be.
SPEAKER 02 :
We welcome patriots that share our conservative values. You know, some of the New Yorkers coming down, I get scared they're going to try to turn us into what they're fleeing. But for the most part, the people coming in. They like what we're doing. They like the safety. They like the security. We're the number one state in almost every meaningful metric now with GDP growth and business formations. Governor DeSantis has done a great job investing in infrastructure, roads, trying to deal with the influx of traffic. But Florida's doing well, and we're going to fight to keep it that way.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, the good news is the New Yorkers can come down here and try all they want, but they've got to get through Governor DeSantis and Attorney General James Uthmeyer before they can be successful, and we're grateful for you. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm glad you could visit with us here in the studio for a little bit, Mr. Attorney General. Thank you for having me. All the best. Stay safe. Thank you. We appreciate it. The Attorney General of the state of Florida joining us.

Republicans and the EV Debate: From Party of Intellect to Road of Reckless Reasoning? Are the Republicans still the party of intellect? John and Andy address this question by delving into the EV controversy and its evolution into a left-versus-right issue. John critiques an interview by someone on the right who claims to be an automotive expert. This conversation highlights how some Republicans have joined the road of reckless reasoning. The conversation quickly shifts from politics into a rapid-fire showdown on EV myths. What’s the real cost to charge at home, and why do owners say they barely touch their brakes? Are the batteries fragile or built to last 200,000 miles? Could a $25,000 EV actually out-accelerate a high-performance gas car, even at 11,000 feet? From one-pedal driving that feels futuristic to surprising truths about maintenance, resale, and winter performance, caller Rand pushes for answers, and John delivers insider details you won’t hear anywhere else. Before you dismiss EVs—or the conversation around them—listen in and ask yourself: are you sure you know what you’re missing? Find out more at https://rushtoreason.com or https://drive-radio.com
SPEAKER 02 :
Do you recognize the Republican Party now versus 20 years ago? No, it's way different. Yeah. It's way different.
SPEAKER 03 :
What happened?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, we're going to talk about that throughout the show, throughout this next half hour or so, because that was something Andy and I even talked about last week. And so I'm going to throw it in the notes for Tuesday. It's a really, really great question. And let me give you really quick one example before Andy and I come back. And this is not a bash. This is just simply educationally speaking. You know, we've got our morning host, Kim, and I love Kim Munson dearly. And she interviews a gal on there who is a quote unquote car expert. Laura is her name. And I like Laura to an extent, although my problem with Laura is she's really not a car person. She's kind of a car journalist, but she hasn't grown up in the industry and been a real car person like I consider myself to be. Now, that's an area where, yes, I consider myself an expert. Well, sure. When it comes to the car end of things, yeah. I'm an expert, probably as much of an expert as most people out there on any platform are when it comes to knowing the history of, you know, working on them throughout all of these years, running different businesses involved, still coaching in that world and so on. And, of course, having the radio show for the past, you know, 27 years or so, Andy, along those lines. And where I'm going with this is, and I love Laura, but she's way off on the whole EV thing. She's coming at it completely anti-EV because I get it. Government tried to shove those things down people's throats. The left was heavy in that. And I understand politically speaking where she's coming from.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really quick here. Let me jump in. But you don't form your views off the emotional response to what government forced on you.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, you do not. You still have to look at it for what it is. Right. It's a product. That's what I've done. And that's why I've owned one since 2020. And for example... One of the things that people like Laura will always bring up when it comes to owning an EV is having to wait to charge it and the cost of charging and so on. And again, because she's not ever owned one, she doesn't really grasp how that works. The majority of people, mainly, by the way, Tesla owners. You'll see a lot of Tesla owners go to fast charge stations and charge up because I believe a lot of Tesla owners don't have the ability at home to do so. They're a different group of individuals, by the way, that bought cars. So you almost have to take them out as an outlier because Tesla owners, for the most part, are not typical car owners. And I mean that with utter sincerity. If you own one. Great. Love you. But typically Tesla owners are not typical car owners and buyers. They even bought the car differently than what you typically do when you go to buy a car. Okay. Because it's all done online. So they're their own breed. By and large, most people that own EVs. Never go to a charge station. They have one at home. They plug in when they get home. Right. They've got their charger even set if they've got time of use like I have. They even set their charger to where it charges when your rates for electricity are the cheapest they are. And at the end of the day, you're not running around looking for any place to charge because it's not necessary. You have plenty of range on what you're doing. And if you charge every night, you start off with a full battery the next day. The reality is you're never roaming around looking for charge stations, doing some of the things that, in this case, Laura would accuse people of doing that own EVs. Can I ask a quick question? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you fully charge your battery every night, does that make it to where it wears down worse?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, the car itself. Great question. Good question, Andy. All the cars have the ability to set where you want that battery level to be charged to. In the case of the ones I run, I only go to 80%. Still gives you plenty of range. That 20% headroom means the battery life stays really long. Okay. Because you're not charging it to the max every single time you charge. You're setting it that 80% mark. All of the cars have the ability on their internal computers to tell the charging station itself, this is how far I want the battery charged once it gets here, stop. And they communicate, by the way, back and forth. The car communicates. It communicates with the charge station back and forth so it knows when it's at 80%. The car will say, all right, I'm done. Stop charging. Even if it's plugged in, I'm done. Stop charging. The particular charge unit that I use even tells me in an app with a notification I'm either charging or I'm done. And I know from looking where things are at. Point being. When you don't own one and you've never been through the process that I've been through, while she is technically correct in the way she's explaining things, it's not real life in the way she's explaining things. She's really going off of what she's been told and what she's encountered from others and the talking points that our side typically has when it comes to EVs. All that stuff gets regurgitated over and over again. And the problem, Andy, is it's not wholly accurate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, what I don't understand is this, John, because, look, we have a lot of negative, and I have negative emotions about EVs because I was forced to pay for them.
SPEAKER 02 :
I do too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, with my tax dollars, I was forced to pay for other people's product.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Just like I have utter disdain for public schools because it's the same situation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And so I look at that, and I understand that emotion, but then my response to the emotion is very simple. Don't make me pay for it. It's not, I hate the product. Exactly. It's not, you know, I don't suddenly hate the whole concept of education. I don't like public education that my tax dollars have to pay for, you know, when other people are going to use it to mold young minds in their political views.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and on top of that, the unions have become so strong that politically speaking, you and I are now paying in our tax dollars for kids to be brainwashed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why are my tax dollars going to something that's union run?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right, and it's against everything I believe in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep, absolutely, Andy. Okay. Fully agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Anyway, to finish with the cars, my only problem with the cars is don't make me pay for it, but take them off the market, hate them, come down on them, buy every conspiracy theory in the world about them. Oh, come on.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's a product. Right. And my point is this. There's a lot of well-meaning people on our side that buy into different things that are going on that are maybe a little bit true but aren't totally true. And then, Andy, it just drives a lot of that negativity that then really at the end of the day, because anybody that owns one of these starts to realize, well, what these guys are talking about isn't the way it works for me. My point is you lose credibility when you start going down those paths, which I don't ever want to do. Right. So we'll come back. We've got more to talk about. Andy and I do.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Rand, you are actually our first caller today. Go for it, Rand.
SPEAKER 04 :
My question is, I've refrained from buying an EV for these points that I'm going to ask you about.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you take the cost of the EV versus a comparable gas-powered car in terms of build quality, features, luxury features, you spend more on an EV to get a comparable gas car. Would you agree?
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a tough one because when it comes to the EVs, they've made them in a lot of ways, Rand, a step above luxury-wise. Now, there's exceptions to that like the Nissan Leafs and some of the lower-end EVs, which in that case, you can really compare apples to apples when it comes to price, so that one doesn't count. But when you take... You know, some of the higher-end EVs, for example. No, the typical EV will have more luxury, more technology, by the way, inside of it than its gas engine counterpart will.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, but I've heard the build quality on Teslas is not up to par with...
SPEAKER 02 :
And that's one brand where taking Tesla as is, I would agree with you, and I've said that many times as a car person. I think Tesla, they've gotten better over the years, but their fit, finish, and a lot of their quality, I talked about this this last Saturday on Drive Radio, their interior noise decibel level and so on, it is not as good as a lot of the other manufacturers are when it comes to ice engine vehicles and so on. It's getting better, but take Tesla out of it, The other manufacturers that do EVs are doing a great job on the fit, finish, and quality of.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, John, really quick here. Let me intrude. You're buying an EV. Which one do you get?
SPEAKER 02 :
Which one do I buy? That's like asking what vehicle do you buy when it comes to even a gas or diesel-engined vehicle because there's so many choices now. What are you using the car for?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, medium income, driving around the metro area.
SPEAKER 02 :
If I was going to buy a straight EV, I would look at either a Chevy Equinox, which I own one of. It's a fantastic car, great build, works fabulous, quiet inside. And frankly, and I said this yesterday on air, some of your Kia EVs, by the way, your entry-level, I really shouldn't call them entry-levels, but your smaller SUV-type EVs on the Kia side, you can't go wrong on. Go ahead, Rand.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Now, the other question is in terms of resale value, How do EVs depreciate in comparison to gas-powered vehicles?
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a great question, and they're taking a lot of hits on that because they will look like they're depreciating much faster than a gas-engine car. The problem is when they do the depreciation on them, Rand, they are looking at a regular list price. Most people aren't paying list price. They will be now because the tax credits are going away. But at one time, when you took the tax credits in Colorado, for example, at $11,500 off of the list price of the car, and then maybe that car depreciated another $5,000 to $8,000, they're looking at that car as depreciating, you know, $20-some thousand dollars, when in reality it's not because the people didn't pay full price for the car. They bought the car much less than that. When you look at it on paper, minus the credits, they look like they're depreciating much faster, when in reality, they're probably comparable to an ICE engine vehicle. It'll be interesting, though, in that world to see exactly how do they depreciate once people start paying full price for them and the tax credits go away.
SPEAKER 03 :
If people are going to get one, though, would you recommend get one now?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you've got until Monday, or sorry, Tuesday, to buy one with tax credits. At that point in time, everything runs out. So if you're going to buy one, yeah, buy one then. And I will say this, Rand, I don't think most people buying EVs are necessarily looking at the resale end of it. They're looking at that car, probably buying it. And frankly, this is one of those examples of where a lease might make a lot of sense to people because then you just walk away from the car at the end, turn it in, and walk away to the next car if you want to. I'm not typically a leasing guy, but in this particular case with EVs, it might make more sense for certain individuals. But at the end of the day, that is a factor, Rand. But by the way, it's a factor with all cars, including luxury cars. You go buy a high-end Audi, by the way, and you look at the depreciation on an Audi in a year or two, it's as bad as anything else out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's worse.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's worse. There you go. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
What is the cost, average cost, would you say, of the installation and the... equipment to put a charger in your garage?
SPEAKER 02 :
Great question. And that one comes down to you, your home, how it's been wired, your existing infrastructure that you have now. In other words, your panel that you have. Can you add another 30 to 50 amp breaker? All of that comes into play. That's a question that, frankly, no one out there, myself included, can give you a direct answer on because there's a lot of depends in that answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, but average price, would you say, just a rough average?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think most people will consider about $2,500 or so, you know, being average by the time you buy the charger and install it. But I've seen some of them ran that are $5,000. I've seen some that are $1,000. It just depends on what you have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, I doubt it. I've heard that tires wear out much more quickly on EVs.
SPEAKER 02 :
They do. They wear out faster because the weight of an EV is much heavier than that of its internal combustion engine counterpart. So because of that extra weight and the fact that it does regenerative braking, your tires will wear out faster on the EV. Now, with all that being said, you're virtually, for the first 60,000 to 70,000 miles on that car, doing no other maintenance to speak of. You're not doing any oil changes. You're not going to do brakes at all because of the regenerative braking. You're really not spending any money on maintenance, Rand, other than tires.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I've also heard that it's
SPEAKER 02 :
costs more when you do need a repair on an ev it's more costly than a gas powered car and that one again that's another depends answer it really depends on what goes wrong uh battery life contrary to what a lot of folks on our side of the aisle will say doesn't happen very often the batteries are good to 200 000 miles plus you can have depending upon the vehicle uh you know suspension issues down the road just like any other vehicle would have. I mean, they have ball joints and control arms and springs and shocks and so on, just like any other vehicle has. Replacing those, though, Rand, is no more expensive than any other vehicle that's out there. Where it might get a little bit more expensive is if there is a real issue, the diagnosis of... might end up, and I say might, might end up being more than its gas counterpart, although, depending upon what happens on some of your gas engine vehicles, you've heard me talk about this on Drive Radio plenty of times, that can get expensive as well. It just depends on what the repair is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course, okay. Other factor, I've heard that it's hard, if you're in an accident in a Tesla, it's extremely hard to get it repaired in a timely manner. as opposed to a Toyota or a Honda?
SPEAKER 02 :
Great question. No, that's a good question as well. This one also comes down to the type of vehicle, whether it's a Tesla, a Porsche, an Audi, a Buick, a Chevrolet, a Ford, a Toyota. Again, all this comes down to how new is the vehicle. How long has the parts suppliers been able to make up and actually find the actual parts that are going to be needed most? In other words, which vehicles are involved in the most accidents? Because, as you know, there's actuaries for that, and the manufacturer will stock up parts according to what they see need for as far as the part demand is concerned. And by the way, Rand, what you're talking about can happen on any new vehicle, not just a EV. In other words, how readily available are those parts that have been damaged? How quickly can the collision center get it in and back out? And off we go. A lot of it comes down to the parts availability. But that can happen on virtually any vehicle, not just an EV.
SPEAKER 04 :
But I heard it was a pretty big problem with Teslas in general.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think Teslas in general. Personally, me, and this is me, and I'm not trying to bash them by any means. I'm not trying to bash Tesla. I wouldn't own one for a lot of the reasons. I wouldn't own one just because of how loud the interior noise is and how rough riding they are, Rand.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So with all that in mind, would you suggest an EV or a hybrid car?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and this comes down to what do you do mostly with the vehicle? And what I mean by that is if you're never going to leave our area and all you're doing is driving to and from work and you're never going to go anywhere outside of the city, which, by the way, that's the majority of people. And a lot of people think, who in the world would ever do that? Most of you listening, by the way, rarely ran. Do people take road trips anymore? Andy's an anomaly. He'll go on a road trip a couple of times a year. I'm weird. I like them. I haven't been on a road trip in a decade, Rand. I mean, if I'm going to any place, I'm getting on an airplane. I'm not driving anywhere because I drive enough already during the week, so I'm not driving anywhere. But everybody's a little bit different, so it really comes down to, are you really going to go anywhere outside of the city with the vehicle? And if so, do you have a backup vehicle that you would take anyways? If that's the case, then buy an EV because your cost of ownership on a per-mile basis will be cheaper than anything else out there, despite what all of our conservative right side of the fence will tell you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. The other question is, I've heard that with EVs, the mileage per charge goes way down if you have two passengers in the car, if you run the air conditioner or the heater.
SPEAKER 02 :
I haven't seen that be an issue one way or the other. And, again, I've owned them since 2020. My cost to charge the vehicle up and run it, my wife, for example, in the Equinox, I don't think ran that vehicle costs us $50 a month to run. There's no way I could do that with gasoline.
SPEAKER 04 :
What kind of mileage are you putting on her?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, she'll run about 1,000 miles a month or so.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just for example, so I traded off my 6.2 Chevy, which they've got some issues with, with some recalls and so on. So I traded that off not long ago, about six weeks ago, and I got the new Silverado EV Trail Boss. It's the max range, so it'll do up to 400 miles on a charge. And even with that large battery capacity, it's the largest in the marketplace right now, Rand, that battery, if it's completely empty and I had to charge it up, It would cost me $25 to charge it up. I couldn't fill the old truck up for the same mileage range. Actually, it didn't even have quite that much range, but I couldn't have filled the old truck up for $25. Got it. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you recommend, in particular, any hybrid?
SPEAKER 02 :
If you're going to buy a hybrid, go buy a Toyota.
SPEAKER 04 :
Toyota? What about the Hondas?
SPEAKER 02 :
Honda's got a good hybrid as well, but the advantage Toyota has, they've been doing it the longest, period, of anybody. They just have the technology down like no one else has.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Well, you've answered a lot of my questions.
SPEAKER 02 :
And again, Rand, as you can tell from me, I look at it from the vehicle perspective and what does that do for you, not the political perspective, which so many people enter into, and I wish they didn't.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. All right. Well, thank you for all your help.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're very welcome, Rand. I appreciate it. A lot of great questions, by the way.
SPEAKER 01 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. You might play what I did with Rand there on Saturday for Drive Radio because he asked a ton of questions. Although, Andy, you had a couple of questions that you wanted to add to what Rand asked that we might as well go ahead and finish up on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, just minor stuff. I don't have any major concerns about electric cars, never have. But one is we're coming into winter. Okay, first of all, of course, they're not going to run as far on a charge in the winter.
SPEAKER 02 :
Their capacity has cut back some, yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I don't think that's a big deal. Most people just use them around the urban area, so it's not a big deal. But I'm just throwing that out. And secondly, what if you get caught in a snowstorm? And I mean really caught. I wouldn't want to be caught in a place where you are going to have to spend hours using the heater on that charge, and then you still need that charge to get home. That, to me, would be a bit of a concern, just determining where would I go. In other words, in the middle of winter, I'm not taking that thing even very far up the mountains, probably.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a great question. And again, what you'd want to do, of course, is have the vehicle charged up all the way, knowing that you're full charge. And my wife runs to Breckenridge and back with ours in the wintertime, has never had an issue, one, whether you're in traffic or not. The one thing to remember is when you're in traffic and you're just sitting there. you're using very little power on all of the systems in the EV itself because you're not moving. Just running the heater, for example, running some of those sorts of things, the lights, the wipers, and so on, it's not using hardly any energy. In fact, all of those are being run off the 12-volt battery. that the EV batteries, the DC EV batteries, are being converted to energy to actually charge the 12-volt battery. So there's very little consumption of the large DC battery that's in the vehicle itself at that point. So there's not, there's... Very little draw, if you would, kilowatt-wise. Most of the cars, by the way, all the EVs will tell you. If you're just sitting still, it'll tell you exactly how much am I drawing. For example, in mine, when you're running in the heat, so same thing, you're in the heat, you're running the AC, you've got all that going on. Most of the EVs I've driven will draw about one kilowatt an hour sitting there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's it. And keep in mind, most of the batteries are going to be 100 kilowatt total. So think about how long you could sit there if you had a decent charge. You wouldn't want to leave empty. By the way, you're not going to want to do that anyways. You're going to want to leave with a full battery. If you do, the likelihood of you being stranded is pretty slim.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Pretty slim. But that's a great question, Andy. And Charlie, did you have one more question along those lines, too? Did I get all that answered? Oh, the other thing Charlie said was how do they do in the snow themselves, which was a great question. So for those of you that are listening, this, again, comes down to what tires does it have on it? Did you buy a single motor, which is typically front-wheel drive, or did you buy a dual-motor EV, which means they're all-wheel drive? I'll tell you right now, with the right tires in the right mode setting, which each car has the snow mode setting, if you've got the right tires, the right mode setting, and the weight of that vehicle, you can go anywhere you want to.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, it's very heavy. It's pushing down heavily on the tires.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. The heavier the vehicle, the better it's going to do in the snow because you've got more pressure there to actually do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and does it make a big difference to have that weight evenly distributed?
SPEAKER 02 :
Which it pretty much is because that battery is sitting underneath all the floorboards, meaning it's going all the way across front to back. Okay. To your point, meaning you don't, like a truck where you put sandbags in the back because even though it's a heavier vehicle, the back end isn't. And you'll fish tail. No, you're not doing that on an EV because that platform, to your point, is distributed out evenly front to back, meaning you've got distributed weight very well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and on top of that, you have very smooth power.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. Now, last but not least, I'm glad Andy just mentioned that. Because herky-jerky power, what does that do? That slips. That's right. So Andy just mentioned something great, which I'm glad he did. The biggest, for me personally, the biggest reason in owning an EV is the performance side. Well, obviously. For those of you that have never driven one. It's a rocket. Yeah, don't knock it till you try it. Because the problem is, and Richard and I have even talked about this, my wife and I have even talked about this. When you drive an EV for any kind of length of time at all, and then you go get back in a regular gasoline-powered vehicle, it's like, holy cow. Where'd all my power go? Because even pulling out into traffic is a completely different experience from a gasoline diesel powered engine than it is an EV, because that power is instantaneous. Even on some of the lower end EVs that don't have, you know, they're not a performance vehicle or anything along those lines. The zero to 40 time on any of those EVs. is like second to none. There's very few vehicles, unless you're in a really high-performance vehicle, you know, Corvette, Lamborghini, Ferrari, something like that, you're typically, even your 0 to 40 time, Andy, won't be as great as it is in some of those, you know, $25,000 EVs, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. That's how quick they actually are.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's instant transference of power.
SPEAKER 02 :
And, last but not least, at our elevation, everybody forgets this as well, at our elevation, you can take a performance car that makes, you know, 500 horsepower. Unless it's supercharged or turbocharged and you're adding air, a naturally aspirated engine, as you go up in elevation and there's less air, performs more poorly because you don't... An engine's a big air pump. Less air, less fuel, less power. That doesn't happen on an EV. The way an EV performs at sea level or at... 11,000 feet is exactly the same. They do not change from what's at sea level to where we are right now, which all of you driving don't realize. But if you took your existing vehicle and even drove to Kansas where you're lower in elevation by probably 3,000 feet, you'll notice a power difference even going to Kansas versus where we are. Of course. In Denver, and as you go up the hill, it even gets less and less and less powerful. That is the other advantage that an EV has is it is a flat line no matter what elevation you're at as far as the power is concerned.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah. Why wouldn't it be?
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, last but not least. My wife doesn't use this feature, but I do. So does Richard. I love it. In fact, to me, it's the best part about driving an EV. We call it one pedal driving, meaning when you let off the gas, the regenerative brake, let off the accelerator pedal, I should say. It's not gas, but you let off the pedal. There's regenerative braking, meaning that if you learn how to use the pedal correctly, you rarely, if ever, hit the brake pedal. You let the vehicle do its slowing down and speeding up. That's the one advantage an electric car has is you rarely ever push on the brake pedal because if you drive correctly with the accelerator pedal, you never have to push the brake because the vehicle slows down automatically as you literally come all the way up to a stoplight, stop sign, whatever it happens to be. It is the easiest way you could ever drive, and it really spoils you because then when you get in a regular vehicle, you're like, oh, crap, I've got to push the brake now. You don't have to in an EV. And they literally slow down quickly enough that in some cases you'll find yourself feathering the accelerator pedal just to keep things moving along because it will literally take you completely to a stop.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
So, again, for all of you listening, a lot of conservatives that hate them. Don't hate it until you try one. Don't knock it until you try it sort of a thing because for a lot of you that are out there listening, they probably fit the bill more than you actually think they would. We'll play this again as we get into Drive Radio coming up this weekend as well. So if some of you want to replay that or listen to that again, we'll actually do that. Might even take that little excerpt out and put it on the website all on its own because Rand and Andy both, you guys asked a lot of great questions that went into that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Five-second answer. Subsidies going away. Do you think they'll lower the prices a little bit?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think they're going to have to. Yeah, they're going to have to. Okay. Yep, absolutely, Andy. I think they will. Or they'll have some other incentives when it's all said and done. So that's it for hour number one. We'll be back hour number two in a moment. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. This is John Rush from Rush to Reason and Drive Radio. Thank you so much for listening. Check out more of our podcasts at RushToReason.com or Drive-Radio.com.
Join Al Smith on this episode of Retirement Unpacked as he delves into the fascinating world of longevity and life expectancy. Discover the leaps in life expectancy across the globe and how these statistics can shape your approach to retirement planning. From historical records to modern-day figures, Al unravels the stories of centenarians and supercentenarians, offering insights into the factors that contribute to a long life.
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Welcome to Retirement Unpacked with Al Smith, owner of Golden Eagle Financial. You want a retirement plan that alleviates your fears about the future so you know your money will last. As a chartered financial consultant, Al Smith will help you find a balance between the risk and reward of the market and the safety of your retirement income. And now, here's your host, Al Smith.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to another program of Retirement Unpacked. I want to thank you for tuning in. I'm sure there's other things you could be doing, but I have some good information for you today, some of which you might have heard in the past, but a lot of the things I talk about deserve repeating because as we move toward retirement or through retirement, there are a lot of concepts that we need to keep in mind. But before I dive into one of those concepts, I want to first announce I am having an event. And the event has to do with the tax pitfalls that we may face as we approach or move into retirement. There will be an event at the Bennett Library. And that will be Friday, October 17th at 1.30 in the afternoon. And the Bennett Library is easy to find. I don't have their address at my fingertips, but I'll be able to provide that because there's about three and a half weeks before the event. Again, that's Friday, October 17th at 1.30, where we're going to talk about the the tax traps or the tax pitfalls that we may be facing as we move toward and through retirement. We're going to cover those. It will be a one hour event, so we're not going to have some marathon two or three hour kind of thing, but we're going to highlight the really important things about taxation in retirement. I thought about quite a few different things for my topic today, and one of my favorite topics, I've talked about this in the past, but I believe it deserves some attention. We're going to talk about life expectancy and longevity. Now, the reason that's kind of an important topic is because when Social Security, for example, was first passed into law in 1935 during the Roosevelt administration, the Social Security benefits kicked in at age 65. And ironically, one of the first who filed for Social Security benefits was a lady named Ida Mae Fuller. and she paid into it for a few years. She was a legal assistant in Vermont. She paid in about $22 in benefits, and she collected about $22,000 because she began collecting in 1939, and she collected until the 1970s because she lived to be about 100 or very, very close to it. But the point is that's something that we are all facing. Some of the statistics about longevity, for example, a woman age 65 has a 25% chance of reaching age 90. And when there's a couple who are both age 65, the odds are even higher that one of them will live into their 90s. And there are a lot of factors that affect longevity, and I think most of us know what some of those are, exercise and better diet and things of that nature. But I'm going to dive into some of the things that have to do with life expectancy. In developed countries, for example, the life expectancy is between 77 and 90. I know that's a broad spread. In what they call developing countries, which is a kinder word for saying undeveloped countries, it's only between age 32 and age 80. One country, for example, the average life expectancy is only age 41, and that is in Mozambique, Africa. Now, one of the things that's interesting is since they've been gathering these statistics, the life expectancy has increased by one to three years for both developing and non-developing countries. And some other interesting things, I always found it fascinating when people reach 100 years old, And that goes back a while. The first person for whom it has been documented that lived to be 100 was named Iliff Philipson. And in 1785, it was recorded that he lived to be 102. And these had to be documented, so there had to be some documents of these people's birth and so forth. There was another person named Gert Boomgart. I think he or I think she was a German. And this was in 1899. She lived to be 110. Another lady named Margaret Neve died in 1903. She was 110 also. A lady named Jean Calmet, I think she was French, in 1997 she died after living 122 years. Another woman named Sarah now spelled K-N-A-U-S in 1999 lived to be 119 years old. The very oldest man His name was Jeroman Kimura. He was Japanese, I believe. He's the oldest man who ever lived, and in 2013, he died at age 116. So these centenarians, as they're called, living to age 100, they are benefiting from the 20% to 30% cause of, call it a cause of longevity, but call it a factor of longevity. Because when people live longer than 100, genetics plays a greater part. There are certain genes and things of that nature that help the body's immune system to fight off diseases in later years, and some of that immune system becomes weak as we age. What's also interesting about the centenarians is how their number has increased. In the United States, for example, in 1950, there were 23,000 people who were 100 years old or older. By 1990, that's 40 years later, there were 110,000 people who were 100 years old. And let me re-talk about these statistics. These are globally. These are not just within the United States. In 1995, there were 150,000 people 100 years old or more. In the year 2000, only five years later, that number jumped to 209,000. By 2005, 324,000. By 2009, 455,000 people were age 100 or older. By 2019, 675,000. And five years later, they're are or were in 2024, 935,000 people who were 100 years old or more. And what I have also found very interesting is the country of Japan Just Japan alone is expected to have 272,000 people who are age 100 or older. And what they also did, some of the statistics I looked at, looked at various countries and how likely is it that people living in those countries will reach age 100. In the United States, 28 people for every 100,000 may reach age 100. In South Africa, it's 36 people out of every 100,000. In Spain, it's 41 people out of every 100,000. Barbados, which is not one I would have guessed, 39 people out of every 100,000 will reach age 100. Thailand, 69 people out of every 100,000 will reach age 100. And in Japan, which leads all of the other countries by an enormous margin, 80 people out of every 100,000 will live to be age 100. So longevity is something we, you know, clearly need to be concerned about and if you're thinking as you're moving closer to retirement wondering is my nest egg large enough or how will I be able to convert this lump sum of money into an income that will last as long as I do well these are things that I talk to people about when they come into the office you can reach my office at 303-744-1128 If you're driving, you can reach me by contacting KLZ. You can also reach me on my cell. That number is 303-875-4572. And you might be wondering, or maybe not, but I'm going to give you the information anyway about animals and plants. How long do they live? There's a bristlecone pine in California that is 4,850 years old. There are rockfish that are as old as 200 years old. There is a clam called the quahog clam that is the longest living animal that lives to be 507 years old. Some other clams that are common also, they often live to be as old as 370 years. And so maybe this is an incentive for any of you with aquariums to get clams because you may not have to replace them very often. There was a bowhead whale that was killed back when whaling was permitted, and it was the oldest living mammal at 211 years old. Now, we talked about centenarians. There is another category called supercentenarians. They are folks who live to be 110, and some of those live in what are called blue zones, and that's a... topic in and of itself. There are certain places in the planet where people seem to live a lot longer. A lot of those places are in Mediterranean areas. But the supercentenarians who live to be 110, only one in a thousand people who reach age 100 can expect to live to be 110. So that's quite an expectation. We're going to talk a little more about longevity and what factors will determine how long you'll live after the break.
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Welcome back to the second half of Retirement Unpacked. We've been talking about life expectancy, longevity, and so forth. We had a whole bunch of statistics, especially about folks who made it to be 100 years old centenarians. And there are factors that most of us are familiar with that are going to permit us to live longer lives. One of them is sleep. it's highly recommended that people get between seven and nine hours of sleep i can't remember the last time i got nine hours i think maybe it's when i only got four or five hours the night before or something like that but that's what is recommended And sleep is incredibly important. They say we spend a third of our lives asleep or somewhere close to that. But in the absence of sleep, when you don't get enough sleep, your performance in whatever you're doing, whether you're retired or not, it seems to suffer. Your emotional state suffers, your mental alertness suffers, and so forth. So it's incredibly important to get enough sleep. And, again, that's a topic I know. John Rush has had people on his show on health and wellness who've talked about the importance of sleep. And I think some of the things that are important for that is before you go to sleep, sort of unwind. It's recommended that you not have alcohol right before you're going to be going to sleep and just to sort of unwind before you actually lay down and rest to go to sleep because if your mind is really cranked up with anxiety or whatever you have that you're concerned about, it may take you 40 minutes to fall asleep instead of 20 and your sleep may not be as good. So that's highly important. Exercise is also very important. They say even moderate exercise can add four to five years to your life expectancy. There is a book, I had a whole show about it in the past. The book is called Spark, and it has to do with how vigorous aerobic exercise can improve mental performance as well as it can delay depression. some of the things that we experience as we get older, some of the mental acuity that seems to be lacking as people get older. Sometimes it even can delay the onset of Alzheimer's. I apologize, I don't have the author handy, but the title of the book is Spark. I have a copy, which if you come into the office, I'll let you read it. It's a very good book. Diet is also very important in living longer. And what's highly recommended is a diet called the Mediterranean diet, which includes plant-based food primarily, which includes fruit, nuts, beans, grain, whole grain, pasta, bread, olive oil, red wine. fish, dairy, and meat, and so forth. I think they probably recommend less red meat, more fish and poultry and that sort of thing. But primarily fresh food rather than processed food, heavily weighted toward, you know, fruits and vegetables. And that's Highly recommended. Something else that's incredibly important in life expectancy as well as having a more fulfilling life later in life is social connections. Being active with other people. Doing things. Staying socially active. Avoiding isolation. And besides having that an effect on your longevity, that's also going to make you're losing a little bit of mental acuity less likely if you're engaging with other people. It means you're likely to live longer and your life is likely to be more fulfilling and you're likely to stay mentally sharper than you would otherwise. There are some other important things to As you age, continue to challenge yourself. Challenge your brain. If you drive somewhere nearly every day, take a different route when you go. Do puzzles. I get the newspaper. And I'm amazed at how it comes on different days every week, even though I've ordered it to come four days. That's, I guess, the irony of the nature of delivery of the newspaper in a time when not very many people read the newspaper anymore. That's pretty much all I'm going to talk about, about longevity, because one of the things that has been bouncing around in my mind for quite some time, and that's gratitude, I believe. Not only I, but many people I know are extremely grateful for a lot of reasons. I'm incredibly grateful for my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, because that gives some meaning to my life. I think we who live in the United States are blessed. We have the First Amendment. And it has come under a little bit of scrutiny, especially with some of the things that have happened lately with Charlie Kirk and Jimmy Kimmel. But I believe living in this country is truly a blessing. I believe living in Colorado is one of the very best places in this country where we can live. and i also think that relationships that we have with other people i was just talking about that with longevity that's something i'm extremely uh blessed with when you have family and friends and people with whom you associate that is an incredible blessing and that's something you may not realize until perhaps you may meet someone who is not well connected maybe doesn't have a lot of activities maybe that person is a little bit isolated if you know someone like that Visit that person. Go out to lunch or breakfast with that person. Sit down and talk about a book that you've both read with that person. Another thing I'm very grateful for is KLZ. KLZ is the oldest radio station in Colorado. It's also one of the oldest in the United States. And the people who are on KLZ are conservative Christian folks who, in my mind, have in their programming what's best for all of us and what's best for our country. I'm also very thankful of our health care system, which, flawed as it is with all the enormous bureaucracy, it is still the best in the world in terms of being able to get care when we need it. And there may be hoops to jump through. There may be a wait of some length of time at an emergency room and things of that nature. It's still, in my opinion, the best health care in the world, no question. Bouncing back to that First Amendment, for which I am extremely grateful, and we can compare that, other countries, especially Canada and the United Kingdom, There are people who are in jail in the United Kingdom because they posted something which was deemed to be misinformation. It may have been critical of transgenderism, or it may have been critical of something else about the United Kingdom's government, and people have gone to jail. in the United Kingdom when they were expressing what we would call in our country their First Amendment rights, but the United Kingdom doesn't have a First Amendment. people in Canada back during COVID, there were pastors who were jailed, and they were jailed because they were trying to worship and gather their flock for worship. Some of them were jailed during COVID. Another thing that occurred in the United Kingdom there was a woman who was doing nothing more than praying. And she went to jail. So again, these are things for which I am extremely grateful. And our First Amendment, if you've been watching the news and so forth, gives us the opportunity and the right to say anything we want, but it doesn't mean that there will be no consequences for what we say. If you say something that is extremely displeasing to your employer, you may get fired. If there's something that places other people in danger, you may get in trouble. If you say something that is untrue about someone else, you may get sued. But there in our country is no, there is no preemptive laws against free speech. And some of that was challenged during COVID when the powers that be were prohibiting the dissemination of what they defined as misinformation. And the big question I had during that period is who determines what's misinformation versus just an alternative opinion. So a lot of things I'm truly grateful for, including relationships with people with whom I'm close. I'm very grateful for my church, Redemption Hills, which is a Bible-believing, non-denominational church. I'm very pleased with my relationships with my family. And I think we all, if we were to sit down and think about it, we may have some problems going on or some challenges and that sort of thing. But I think we have a great deal more to be thankful for than we have to be overly concerned or anxious about. Again, I have an event coming up October 17th at the Bennett Library at 1.30 in the afternoon. If you'd like to come, call my office. We'll make a reservation, 303-744-1128. You can also call if you'd like to have a conversation with me. In the meantime, God bless you, and hopefully you'll be here next week.
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In this episode of The Good News, Angie Austin and Jim Stovall share insights on creating a positive workplace environment and the importance of valuing employees. Jim discusses how his team is more than just employees—they're a family—and the impactful ways this loyalty has benefitted his business. Explore how you, too, can foster a business culture where employees flourish personally and professionally. Later in the episode, Angie and Jim delve into smart investment strategies for everyone, drawing on Jim's extensive experience in finance.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news along with Jim Stovall. Hey, friend. Hey, it is great to be back with you. You know, you always talk great to be with you. You always talk about your employees. I'm all excited to tell you this and how long they've been with you and how great they are and how really all of them have ultimately become millionaires over the years because you want them all to own their homes and you've been very generous because you appreciate them so much. Well, Beth, who answers your phone every time I call, I realized today that She's so warm and nice when you just chat with her briefly, which I do every week when I call you, if not more than once a week. And she's an animal person like me. I realized the second she says hello and she says, you know, you know, good morning or good afternoon. Narrative Television Network. This is Beth speaking that I automatically smile. And I told her today, I said, the minute you start talking, I smile like there's something so likable about her and about like your people, you know, that you surround yourself with people that like make me smile.
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Well, you know, I always tell the young people at the Stovall Center for Entrepreneurship at the university that one of the great things about having your own business is you get to work with people you like.
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Yes.
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And you get to eliminate what I call the jerk factor. Yes. Which means, you know, everybody that's had a job working for someone else, sooner or later you'll be stuck with somebody that you don't like. It doesn't click or whatever it is. And, you know, I spend as much time with these people as I do with my family. So, you know, it's important to me that we all like one another. And, you know, it's been so long since I've hired anybody because everybody comes here and never leaves.
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Oh, my gosh, that's so crazy.
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Well, but, you know, before I hire someone, you know, I get the team in. I said, I feel good about this person, but I want each of you to interview them yourselves. Because, you know, you work here too. And so it's kind of one of those things, you know, we want to make sure it's kind of like meeting the family, meeting the in-laws or something. But it's great. And Beth is certainly one of those treasures. And she, yeah, every day is a great day.
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I love that. I love that. And how long have you had your longest employee? What's the longest you've had one?
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I had one nearly, let me see, 38 years when she retired in her mid-70s. And then the shortest one is probably 22 or 23 years. 22 or 23 years, that's the employee that's been there with you the least amount of time? Yeah, yeah. We stay together and we add people. We have over a thousand television stations that carry our stuff, but they're contractors. I'll hire people to do things, but as a blind guy, I don't like that many people around. When I was selected as the Entrepreneur of the Year by the United States Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street Journal sent a guy here for a whole week to walk around with me. And he said, how come you only have seven or eight people here? And I said, because I haven't figured out how to do this with five or six people. I mean, you know, I mean, I go on the road to arena events where I have to talk to huge crowds. But I like this small group of people around here and the people are always in their places and the furniture never moves. And I can have a fairly functional time.
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Yeah, and you do your walk every day that is exactly the same, you know, the number of steps. Yes, you like routine. As a blind person, that is routine and people you can count on that you feel comfortable with makes it, you know, work for you.
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Yeah, yeah. It's like when you're at home at your house, you can get up in the middle of the night and get a glass of water, and you don't have to turn the light on. Don't try that in somebody else's house.
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Oh, my gosh. Did I tell you my dad in his, like, 80s, he was at camp. We did this family camp, and his – His roommate, Ralph, was blind. And so my dad went into the bathroom, you know, in the dark, you know, to go to the bathroom. And, of course, Ralph doesn't turn on the light when he's in there. My dad about had a heart attack as he walked into the bathroom. And, you know, it was a little small one in a cabin. And there was Ralph, you know, going to the potty. And my dad said he thought it was the death of him. He thought he was going to die. He was so scared that Ralph was in the dark in the bathroom.
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Yeah, you know, and I try to remember when I have people to my home or my office to turn on the lights just as a courtesy, but I don't always get it, I'll tell you.
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Oh, gosh, that's funny. Okay, so this week we're talking about your Winner's Wisdom column titled Invest Like a Billionaire, and who wouldn't want to invest like that?
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Well, there's this misnomer out there, I think, that people have that they think, you know, you've got to have money to make money. And rich people were born rich and they don't. You know, the important thing to remember is over 90 percent of millionaires are first generation. They made their money all in their lifetime. And, you know, they've got it the hard way. They saved it. They invested it. They earned it. And I started my business career as a member of New York Stock Exchange. managing people's money. But back in the 80s, mid-80s, the world was different. I mean, back then, we didn't all have computers and all this stuff. So, you know, billionaires had what are called family offices. They still do today. And they have an office either near their home or somewhere where they are. And they have lawyers. They have accountants. They have investment people. They have estate planning people. All these people work for them. And they do nothing but work on their stuff all day, every day. Well, you know, so back in the eighties, those people had their own quotes and they were connected to the exchange. And they could do all this stuff. But little investors like you and me, we, you know, if you wanted a stock quote, you got it out of the newspaper the next day. And so, you know, you were investing like driving, looking in the rearview mirror. You don't know what the market's doing today. You know, tomorrow you'll know what it did today. But, you know, and now we all get instantaneous quotes. We all have access to every investment. Used to be a lot of mutual funds and private equity things were only available to millionaires today. and billionaires. Now we all can. And we all have the greatest tax advantage ever in our lifetime, which is the opportunity to invest in a 401 that's tax deductible. And in most cases, your employer will match. I mean, it's like free money. I just cringe when I hear about people that aren't maxing that out, because, you know, it's like it's raining dollar bills out there, and they're out there with a pair of tweezers. I mean, get yourself a stem shovel, and, you know, you've got to take advantage of this, because it's just ridiculous. What a great, you know, the fastest growing group of millionaires in America are teachers, and they invest in their retirement plans, and, you know, we all know that they're not well paid, but... If you're diligent at it, anybody can succeed now because you're investing dollars that you would have spent in taxes already, and then it grows tax-deferred, and then someone else will match it. Man, you've got to grab that. So there are so many things available to us now that really weren't available in previous years. The research is available. You can go online and get world-class investment research. that only used to be available to millionaires and billionaires. And now we all can do this. I mean, we can all invest like a billionaire. And, you know, there have been a number of books out, like Invest Like Warren Buffett. You know, and when I first read the first one of those, I thought, well, why invest like Warren Buffett when I can invest in Warren Buffett? and I really wanted to go to his annual meeting in Omaha, Nebraska. It's kind of the Woodstock for entrepreneurs and investors, and people come from all around the world once a year, and I thought, I've got to check this out, but you've got to be a stockholder. Well, at the time, one share of his stock, Berkshire Hathaway, cost $115,000. Well, I took a deep breath and bought one share, and went to his meeting and did all the stuff, and I just bought the share so I could do it, Angie, and That's been 10 or 12 years ago, but today that one share is worth $672,000. What? When did you buy it? Yeah, yeah.
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How long ago? Yeah, one share.
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When? Oh, I bought it 10, 12 years ago. What? Last week. It's $672,000 a share. If you want to invest in it, you can. There are holding companies out there, and you can own part of one share. So if you just have a few thousand dollars to invest, you can invest in a subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway and get the exact same thing, but you don't have to invest like Warren Buffett. You can invest with Warren Buffett, and it's a great opportunity that I think everybody ought to take advantage of. And there are many, many other mutual funds out there and great investment vehicles, but you can make it just with the index funds. I mean, if you just max out your 401k and buy an equal part of the entire stock market through an index fund, you're going to be a millionaire if you'll just stay with it long enough. You know, there's never been a better time than now. And, you know, I know we're in a political season and everybody wants to tell you how bad the economy is right now. No, it isn't. I mean, these are the golden days. And I know, hey, for people that lost their jobs or supply chain thing after COVID, hey, I get that. I know it's tough. But, you know, get back on track and, you know, max out that 401k and it won't take long and you'll be where you want to be.
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Wow. All right. Well, that's pretty. OK, so that's pretty impressive. I'm a little bit mind boggled by the increase on that. I had told my husband to invest in Eli Lilly and, you know, the drug companies making that weight loss drug because I knew being in the news business that that new weight loss drug or now drugs would be, you know, very successful and that the stock would go up. And he sold it when it went up 30%. And I was like, why did you sell it? And he's like, well, it went up 30%. I'm like, bro, this was like a long-term investment I wanted you to make, like a big chunk of change. So I didn't convey my wishes very clearly, and he sold it pretty early on. But my kids, he holds an investment class, and he invites... the kids and their friends to come up to his office, and then he does a formal investment class for them. So anyway, he put the girls' lifeguard money in this summer, and he opened investment accounts for them. Now, keep in mind, my son has had his investment account since he was probably... He started his business at 12. He probably started his investment account at 13, and he has a... rather large chunk of change to put a down payment on a house in Boulder, Colorado, where he's going to school, which we're going to do in the next six months to a year, because we obviously have to get the loan. But with that said, the down payment's all him, and the property there in Boulder is similar to the prices in California it's very expensive to buy a house in Boulder like the shack that my grandma I shouldn't say shack my grandpa's house was a shack it's about 1.2 million now it's 700 square feet and then my grandma's little three bedroom one bathroom is about a million we don't own these anymore but I just kind of tracked them because my family my mom's family did not have money But I can't believe how much these properties have gone up over the years. So with that said, Riley has been investing for years. And there was an investing class at school. And he did in the class with mock money exactly what he was doing in his own account. And he came in first place in the investment club or competition that he had in his business class. But anyway, my point about the girls... We're really trying to teach them not to go out and get Starbucks every day. I'm like, look, if you're going to go to Starbucks, get a coffee and put in the milk that's sitting there and the sweetener that's sitting there on the counter. Don't get the $6, $7, $8 drink. Get the $2, $3 drink and then just, you know, mix it up yourself. Add your own cinnamon or get one shot of sweetener. You don't have to get that. expensive drinks so anyway he said the girls have already made 62 and he just started this account like i don't know a month ago he's like if they can just understand you know compound interest and if they can start putting money in rather than these kids with the fast food and the starbucks you would not believe how much they lose in that mr wonderful from shark tank kevin whatever his name is he said these people going out spending 10 and 15 bucks on a sandwich and 10 bucks on a coffee he if they could just make a dollar sandwich at home and make their own coffee, they're like throwing away a million dollars, you know?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. It's unbelievable. In one of my financial books, uh financial crossroads we wrote about uh the million dollar cup of coffee at starbucks and it just uh it's true you go in there five days a week and get your coffee and uh and then there it is and i'm not telling people don't go go get starbucks and don't go get coffee i'm just saying know what it costs you and somewhere you've got to save that money i i got my brother when he was very very young and i was a broker and he had just started working got out of college And I got him into a retirement plan that he maxed out. And I said, don't ever look at the paperwork. Don't get confused. Just leave it alone. Let it go. Well, in his mid-30s, he had a construction company of his own, and he needed to get a bond to build this business. And it was a half-million-dollar bond. Well, he goes to his banker and says, can you write a bond for this, insuring this deal? And he said the banker was a little confused and said, Mr. Stovall, I'll write you a bond if you want one. But why don't you secure it yourself? And he said, what are you talking about? I said, well, you got well over half a million dollars in that retirement plan of yours. And my brother said, what retirement? That thing my brother got me? And he could not believe. He said, Jim, this is like pizza money once a week. And now I've got over half a million dollars. And that was years ago. I mean, and he didn't even realize he did it. You know, it's kind of like paying your taxes or your Social Security or whatever. You know, it's a big bite. But once you get used to it, you don't even miss it. And if you'll just do that with your retirement, you'll never know what's gone. And someday you'll look up and say, wow, look at that pile of money.
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Look at that pile of money. Jim Stovall dot com. I'm going to go see if I can find a pile of money. Thank you, Jim.
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Thank you.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. I thought I'd start off with some good news today and this segment because I saw a story on the CBS Evening News that I thought you might get a kick out of. I just love the idea of pursuing your dreams, you know, no matter your age. And, you know, Beatrice Bruno, who's on our program a lot. She is going to college, and then she is pursuing her law degree because she is a veteran, and she has really wanted to help out other vets. And so that is what she is doing now, and she is swamped with school. She's taking the school – remotely it's Grand Canyon University Christian University based out of Arizona and yeah and she's in her 60s she lost her husband several years back all of her children are grown she's a grandma and she decided to get her degree and then to go on to pursue a law degree which I was extremely impressed by and Because, I mean, that's a lot of work. And the fact that she's so passionate about wanting to help veterans as well is very inspirational to me, too. So good luck to her on that. All right. So I wanted to share with you the good news story of a man who was 66 years old. And you may have seen this with Steve Hartman on the CBS Evening News. He does that on the road segments. And this man's name is Kent Broussard. And he had a dream that never died. Even after a wife and daughters and a decades-long career as an accountant filled up every aspect of Kent Broussard's life, somewhere deep in his mind, the dream still survived. Now 66, he still remembers when it first took root in 1968 as a nine-year-old attending his first Louisiana State University football game. The golden band from Tiger Land marched onto the field playing songs that rang out in the Louisiana air. The music and movement and pageantry of the college football band struck a permanent chord with him. And he just said, you know, someday I want to be in that band. And he never lost that feeling. So, you know, he's getting ready to retire. He has this dream and he starts running and working out. and he had to basically learn how to play the tuba i mean he had played it many years ago like many of us had an instrument like elementary school or something like that but so he had to relearn how to do that and then he started marching through the neighborhood i'm sure the neighbors really appreciated that he started marching through the neighborhood um you know practicing the tuba and practicing with the marching because you have to be in really good shape you have to try out for the marching band And you also you have to also be a student. So he had to take 12 credit hours of classes because you can't just be in the marching band and be any old 66 year old guy. And so I just was so inspired by this guy pursuing his dream. And his wife, when he first told his wife, she's like, oh, is it like a special group for old people? You know, like. He's like, no, like I'm talking about the real actual, you know, marching band, like with students, you know, like and my tuba. And she's like, what on earth? Are you kidding me? Like, for real? So, yeah, he meant for real. So let's take a listen to Steve Hartman explaining this. Kent's dream. And this is the CBS Evening News On The Road with Steve Hartman.
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Finally, tonight, tuba or not tuba? That was the question. The answer came late in life for the man Steve Hartman met on the road. Now, here's something you don't see every day or any day for that matter.
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Unless you live in this formerly quiet neighborhood in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where for the past year, 66-year-old Kent Broussard has been marching toward a dream. A dream he's had ever since he was a little kid, when he first saw the Louisiana State University marching band. Someday, he'd play tuba for them, he thought. And that day never came. It did not. And at some point, you get too old.
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You've got a job. You've got a family. Exactly, right? You're not going to go play for the LSU band.
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No, I wasn't going to do that. No, I wasn't going to play for the LSU band when I was 50. But 66? He thought, maybe. At least that's what he told his wife, Cheryl.
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And at first, I was like, do they have, like, a senior band? I mean, I wasn't sure what he was exactly talking about. And it was the real, real band.
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And so, this year, this retired accountant went back to school, just in the hopes of making the band. He did play tuba as a kid, but had completely forgotten. So he relearned. and trained hard for what was to be a very competitive audition process. Band director, Simon Jalowiko. You didn't cut him any slack. He doesn't get any breaks for being a senior citizen.
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No, there are no breaks when you come here, and we follow that process to get the best possible group we can.
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Which is why Kent was never really expecting to make the cut, and why he was this excited when he did it. Kent is now the oldest person in the band by 41 years.
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Wow.
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His first game is tomorrow, and he hopes his little dot on the field will punctuate the importance of high-stepping out of your comfort zone. Try it. The only thing you can do is fail. Your only failure is not trying. And your only risk, annoying the entire neighborhood. Steve Hartman, On the Road, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
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I love that story. And, you know, obviously his neighbors have put up with him. And the thing that I think is really cool is seeing him, well, obviously him making it, but the excitement of his fellow bandmates who really were rooting for him. I just thought that was like one of the coolest parts of the story because they were so behind him and what he was doing. I feel, you know, that kind of excitement for Beatrice going to law school in her 60s. Well, not even law school yet. She's got to finish her degree for us to do that. And the fact that his wife backed him, I think a lot of people are dismissive of people's dreams. You know, a spouse or even parents, like when our kids come up with ideas. I remember when my son at 12 wanted to start his shoe business, which is now his vintage business, which has been highly successful. Eight years later, he's still running the business. He's got two big events this weekend. He has. events every week he does a a thrift event on thursdays up and up at school but college and you know this is enough to support him you know and his college education and his uh you know uh home and his food i mean it's a legit career so i'm super proud of him uh for everything that you know he's done but i didn't really i don't know that i supported him in the I'm not buying $300 shoes for you to resell. And so he had to save up his own money for, you know, and he would shovel driveways or mow lawns and get money for Christmas. And he saved it up and he started buying shoes and getting the drops, you know, when they drop the Nikes and it's kind of a lottery and you get a pair. So he started off really slow and then he built his inventory and then he switched over to thrift because he really learned how to look at the tags and figure out which bands and which, um, you know, years were really, you know, good for resale. So I thought that was pretty neat. All right, changing gears now, if you're just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. Angie here. Well, autumn may bring crisp air and colorful foliage, but it also creates some eye health problems due to, you know, the indoor heat, the ragweed allergens, and the increased screen time. I love going up. In fact, I am going up to YMCA the Rockies, and I'm going to see the fall colors and see the elk rut, but sometimes, especially my kids, I'm going to see the elk rut. We have allergy reactions, and it makes your whole day miserable when your eyes are all itchy. Well, joining us today is optometrist Dr. Elise Kramer, who is teaming up with Theratears to share timely tips for dry eye sufferers. You've got that allergy reaction. Dr. Kramer specializes in ocular surface disease and specialty contact lens design and has lectured worldwide on eye health, and she's been involved in a lot of research. Welcome, Dr. Elise Kramer.
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Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.
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You're welcome. Well, let's just start off talking about why it's important to address eye care, particularly during this fall season.
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Yeah. So, you know, eye health really connects directly to our overall well-being. And as you mentioned, the fall is so beautiful. I love the fall. It's one of my favorite seasons. But it also does create challenges for dry eye sufferers. And that what you mentioned exactly that dehydrating air from heating system that ragweed allergies and increased screen use even in kids like you said your kids. that can all trigger irritation, dryness, and fatigue. And that's why I've partnered with TheraTears to remind everyone that caring for dry eyes isn't just about comfort, but it's also about finding solutions for long-lasting relief.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, let's talk about how eye sufferers can find that relief, because I know people often try lots of different things trying to get some relief, and they think that they have to go to the doctor and get a prescription, but that's not necessarily the case.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And, you know, TheraTears actually is an over-the-counter dry eye drop, and it has five vital electrolytes. And that formula restores moisture and balance to the ocular surface. So, you know, I think most people don't understand that electrolytes are the unsung heroes of the natural tears. And so think of your tear film as a delicate ecosystem. And when it's out of balance and your eyes lose water, that's when you feel the burn. So These drops don't just mask symptoms. It really replenishes what eyes are missing. And for people struggling through dry fall air, that can really mean lasting comfort.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, when you talk about this, you know, science, I didn't know that about the electrolytes. And when your eyes are bothering you, it just ruins your whole day. You're just miserable. Are there other benefits in using science-backed eye care?
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Yeah. So when eye care is science-backed, like with Farateer's, there's key ingredients that work together to support hydrated and balanced eyes. And that can leave the eyes feeling nourished, comfortable. So without them, sometimes the eyes don't produce enough tears. And sometimes they do produce enough tears, but the tears evaporate too quickly. And that can leave this tear film instability or salt imbalance. And that causes more inflammation. And then the inflammation causes more tear film instability, which causes more inflammation. So it's just a vicious cycle. And TheraTears gives patients peace of mind knowing that they're using something that's created by experts, that's proven in studies with long lasting relief. And that level of science gives you more than just comfort. It really gives you that relief that you're using something that's truly effective.
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Is there anything else we should know about in particular, you know, fall eye care or anything else that will help us so that we should know about other solutions or anything?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So I think, you know, everyone's different. Every eye is different. Every patient is different. And TheraTears addresses that with different options. There's preservative-free drops. There's gel formulas for like a thicker, you know, more viscous solution for overnight relief. There's products for everyday, all-day relief. And that range really allows people to choose what works best for them and their lifestyle. So whether you're working or studying or you're outdoors or you're going out. And also, I think, you know, don't wait until discomfort becomes a really big issue. I think addressing it early and preventing discomfort. you know, further problems really makes a difference. There's also simple steps that you can take at home or at your office, like adjusting indoor humidity, staying hydrated, so drinking water, right? Blinking your eyes frequently, taking breaks from your screen, super important. And also, you know, for persistent dryness, options like their tears can make a really big difference. So to everyone listening, you know, I think prioritizing your eye health now is means like long-lasting comfort and protection all season long.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love it. All right, Doctor, where do we go to get more info?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so you can check us out at Theratears.com. There's a lot of information, resources about dry eye, about Theratears, about the unique formulation and the science-backed formulation that I'm super, super excited about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Excellent. Well, thanks so much, Dr. Kramer. Thank you.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
