Join us as we unpack the fallout from Justin Trudeau's resignation, discussing the immediate consequences and long-term implications for Canadian governance. Our experts deliberate on the potential outcomes of upcoming elections and the strategic alliances that might form. We also examine how Trudeau's policies and leadership style might have influenced this political upheaval and what his resignation means for international politics, particularly for trade and diplomatic relations with the United States.
SPEAKER 11 :
Breaking today on Seculo, Canada in chaos following Trudeau resignation.
SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right, welcome back to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. Logan and Will are in the studio with me. That's at 1-800-684-3110. And to think that, you know, it's just U.S. politics that's wild. No, let's move to our neighbors to the north. Remember, just after President Trump's election. You had Justin Trudeau make his way down to Mar-a-Lago before the holidays, I think, kicked in. And he was there for a couple of days at least and meeting with the president. And there was some interesting commentary from President Trump after that about buying Canada and him being the governor. But really just being tough on the imports from Canada, the price differences in medication, things like that. And knowing that, again, we're allies, but that we want to make sure that there's parity there between the trade deals and issues like that. But now we've learned. And finally, you know, it may be to a lot of Americans get to this point where you're like. I don't even know how this happened, but it finally did happen, that Justin Trudeau's party has pushed him out as prime minister. And it triggers a different time than like in the United States. When you're used to a system like ours, which is a democratic republic, let's say the president is pushed out, you have a vice president. And if you had a leader in the legislative branch pushed out, well, you have a number two put in place. There, interestingly enough, the government kind of shuts down.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it seems like they're going to be in sort of recess for the next three months.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're already in a sabbatical, as they call it. So the parliament wasn't coming back until later in this month. However, they have now suspended the parliament until March 24th to allow for the Liberal Party, which is technically the coalition leading party, to choose a new leader. So they'll have to do some voting on that. But then the conservative party has already mentioned and said that they are going to immediately do a no confidence vote as soon as they come back in March. So after they get a new liberal leader, which will be the prime minister, at least for a very short time, they will then have a no confidence vote in parliament, which can trigger new elections. Their deadline for elections was October of this year. But after this move by Trudeau, it does seem like we're looking for... springtime elections in Canada, right as President Trump's agenda starts rolling, there may be a friendlier party to the North to help maybe negotiate on some of these issues that have been such a concern for President Trump.
SPEAKER 11 :
I do think, I think that people have gotten used to a very leftist run Canada and Justin Trudeau with a lot of PC, a politically correct policies, a lot of woke policies that he's, uh, tried to, uh, put into force there. A lot of anti-free speech policies. Remember the truckers, remember the, the fact that they were, uh, seizing bank accounts. We'll get into some of these activities. You might forget that before Trudeau, there was a pretty big conservative movement in Canada. It's not quite exactly the same as when you'd say conservative movement in the United States, maybe a little bit more similar to the UK's conservative movement, but I'd say in the sense that in this hemisphere, it's still a little, it's somewhere in between the US and the UK. It's a little more conservative than the UK too.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's a little more social.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, exactly. And so the question is, do they have the people to put forward to actually take charge here? Now, what is interesting is this, is, is it, Is it more chaos for the Trump administration to face, or is this showing the power of the Trump administration? I think it's a little bit of both, but honestly, Donald Trump right now is having great influence around the world without even being the president of the United States yet.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, I mean, Trudeau was the belle of the ball for how many years? He was everyone's favorite, especially on the liberal side. He was like the guidepost of the North. Everyone was like, look, I wish we had a leader like Trudeau, and look what happens. Look what happens when these kind of things go down. Phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. We also want to welcome everyone watching. We are now live on the Salem News Channel. We've been on the network for the last year, but now we are live. So if you're watching right now on the Salem News Channel, I want you to give me a call. 1-800-684-3110 because we are live right now what are your thoughts on this issue and we're also going to be talking about some of president trump's issues that happened over the weekend we'll be right
SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome back to Seculo. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. So in Canada, the power of President Trump, who has said he wants to get tough on our neighbors, including those to the north and the south that we're not just talking about. border wall with Mexico that we're also talking about trade policies with Canada and getting more parity when it comes to the economics of what flows in and what flows out we know that Justin Trudeau went down and met with President Trump after he was re-elected spent time down in Mar-a-Lago so it doesn't seem like this was something six weeks ago that he was necessarily planning to do but clearly in a sign from his own party and his own And I would guess the grassroots in Canada to some extent inside that party made it clear to him that he was going to have a very tough time keeping a governing coalition together. So instead of losing, he has decided to resign. And I think that there's probably a lot of people wondering right now. fairly, because we don't cover Canadian politics that much in the United States at all. I mean, it doesn't really matter. A lot of the things that, you know, I think the truckers issue was one of the biggest issues here during the free speech kind of COVID years.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, we have all the networks on. It's not even a story right now they're all talking about. And this has happened in the last 45 minutes. So it does show you we are oddly disconnected from what's happening so close to us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. And I mean, I'll go to Harry Hutch. So this because Harry, I think that what people probably would want to understand first is how does this affect the United States in the short term and the long term?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's an excellent question. But first, let me say that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was one of the most narcissistic leaders since Emperor Nero, and he has finally resigned. In point of fact, he was never an inevitable leader. Instead, he was a choice made by the Canadian people to choose someone who supports diversity, equity, and inclusion. Those were his policies. This is a guy that bowed at the Black Lives Matter protests. This is a guy that protested against non-existent deaths at Catholic schools. So he was always a weak leader. But I think one of the things that this particular resignation points out to the American people is the world reacts to strength. And Donald Trump projects it. And I think Trudeau could not withstand the pressure from the United States, but also from the Canadian people. Keep in mind that only 16% of the Canadian people supported Trudeau. Only 16%. So he was in a losing battle. His deputy prime minister, Chrystia Freeland, she resigned a couple of weeks ago. So he was in a very, very weak position, made weaker by Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 11 :
What do you think comes next? I mean, because, again, people in the United States are not many experts in Canadian politics. So is he doing this to try and save the Liberal Party? Are they still the strongest party to keep that kind of parliamentary power inside Canada where they put forward the prime minister? Is there a chance that some of these other parties now have between now and I think March to be able to put someone forward and actually change the politics, the political direction of Canada?
SPEAKER 04 :
Very good question. So first what has to happen is there has to be a no-confidence vote which would then trigger an election. More likely than not, the Progressive Conservatives would win that election if you look at the current poll results. But it's also important to keep in mind that the Progressive Conservative leader is not necessarily a paragon of conservatism, at least from an American perspective. He is a paragon of conservatism from a Canadian perspective. Canadians tend to be much more liberal, much more socially focused. And so I think at the end of the day you are likely to see a change in Canadian policy but it will be a relatively soft change as opposed to a hard right move such as what we've seen in Hungary or Slovakia or previously in Poland.
SPEAKER 10 :
This isn't like a MAGA movement happening in Canada right now. This is more specific, more tied into this person.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And it's important to keep in mind that the primary news source in Canada is not necessarily the Canadian news. It's CNN. It's MSNBC. And so when I have spent time with my in-laws in Canada, They are incessantly talking about what's going on on those particular channels rather than actually looking, for instance, at Fox News or the Global News, which comes from Great Britain.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, look, in London last week, there was more Donald Trump headlines than there were anything else. And there was a lot going on in their own country. But clearly still America has its hold on the news across the country, across the world. But again, this happens in Canada. And we're all kind of struggling going, OK, how does this all work? How do we put this all together? And you got me a great little fact sheet of all the little things that Trudeau has done or is doing. And I somewhat I'm going, OK, I got to get more educated on what's happening right around us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and Professor Hutchison, what you brought up also is that the the leader of that conservative party, the Progressive Conservative Party, as it's sometimes called as well. But they are the it's currently Pierre which is the best I'll do at my French pronunciation here. But he's been making headlines on American social media a lot because of his kind of blunt, matter-of-fact way he's dealt with the press. I feel like he's got a lot of of that Trump no nonsense about him. So he's kind of become a superstar on American social media. But he's described as a populist. He's focused on cost of living. The social issues, as you bring up, wouldn't necessarily be in line as much with American conservatism. But when you talk about things like the terror fight ahead that President Trump was threatening Justin Trudeau with, this does seem to be a person that could probably, especially focusing on those issues of cost of living He obviously was very upset with the free speech issues as well when Justin Trudeau enacted those emergency act issues back in the COVID era. He does seem like someone that a Trump-style politician could work well with to maybe get around some of these things, which would be beneficial for both the Canadians as well as the Americans if negotiations can happen without the specter of Mr. Liberal Trudeau, who was put on every pedestal possible by the American elites.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think you're precisely correct. So if you look at Pierre Pellet, he's essentially met Romney on social issues, but I think on economic issues, he's quite good. If you were looking for a Canadian who was more in the style of Donald Trump, you would have to look at someone who's even more obscure, and that is Grant Abraham, who is the head of the United Party, which is now a small but very extremely conservative party in Canada, particularly in Western Canada. So one of the things that I think the Americans need to think about is to break Canada up into regions. And so if you look at Alberta and to some extent Manitoba, they tend to be much more conservative than Ontario and British Columbia. British Columbia local politics are left of the moon, for instance. And so one of the problems with Canada, dealing with Canada, is that there are a number of left
SPEAKER 05 :
wingloons in politics in that particular country let's quickly take a phone call let's go to john who's calling on this topic john online too watching on youtube welcome oh hi thank you um just i'm happy to see in my opinion the changeover of leadership in canada it seems to me that this has affected some of our politics here in a light way whether that be um the Prior controversy with Jordan Peterson, where he was unfairly, in my opinion, at least unjustly de-platformed. Right. A lot of his positions there. Yep. But the most concerning thing to me is parliament has noticed a large mess with the funds they manage apparently within that party. And I think Trudeau's responsible, even if I'm not going to say it's his fault. And it's time for a change. Looking forward to it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and that's right. That's even why the finance minister stepped aside. There was that fight. She Trudeau was saying you can be demoted and she just resigned, which also lessened his coalition and put him even more in a more tenuous situation. But I do think that if conservatives get in there, they will be looking at how the money was managed in Canada because it's been a disaster.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. So the current projected budget deficit in Canada is about $61 billion, which is 50% higher than the projections earlier. So the finances in Canada are a mess. They need to cut back on taxes and health care expenses.
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right, so on this Friday, January 10th, Judge Vershawn in New York has said he will go forward in the sentencing of President Trump. This is the Alan Bragg case where President Trump was found guilty for those 34 felonies mixed in somehow with a federal election law. It was all a mess. And even the DA there said, well, maybe we just say we can't move forward or this is where we stopped. But he's come up with a different idea, which is that we're going to find that he, we're going to sentence him, but the sentencing will not have any, there won't be any kind of actual sentence that comes with it other than the fact that you will, for the rest of your life, be a convicted felon. And that is, I think, exactly what the left wants here is they want to be able to say this is the first president in history who is entering the oval office as a convicted felon so President Trump has announced he's going to take action before Friday to try and prevent this sentencing from Judge Mershon and then ultimately I think he's going to continue to fight this I mean this was a weak case to begin with I think that everyone realized this case on appeal probably had a lot of trouble ultimately because of the way They tried to create the hush money payments into election law. They're not really allowed to enforce federal election law. That's not their job as local DAs. But Merchant came up with his way to where he can quote, sentence President Trump without actually sentencing him to anything. So again, proving our point that all of this is not about actually punishing anyone it's about tarring and feathering people and it's about making you look like you're like you are a felon it's giving the ability for the other side whenever they feel like throwing it out there yeah that you're a convicted felon and that we don't really really don't really trust you but the American people of course knew all this and he won an overwhelming election so I think this is gamesmanship which is what's so wrong with our legal system in this country. The fact that he's going to do this sentencing on these 34 counts, but don't worry, it's not going to come with any conditions. It's not going to be any kind of actual sentencing whatsoever. No jail time, but nothing.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's going to be unconditional release. It's always a show, and it always backfires. It always becomes something that's not. I don't know why they keep continuing on this. I did think about this. Was President Trump not allowed to vote? in this election as a convicted felon?
SPEAKER 09 :
One, because the sentencing had not come down, he was not a convicted felon. Also, he's a resident of Florida. Florida has a lot of rules as far as if you're a felon in a different state versus Florida. It was convoluted. He was able to vote in this election. But back to Jordan's point as well, Judge Marchand set the sentencing for Friday, 10 days before the inauguration of President Trump.
SPEAKER 10 :
Certification's about to happen in the next few hours.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. This is where the fight was going on between Alvin Bragg trying to say, hey, do the Alabama rule, which we don't do here in New York, which is where you declare him dead and still enter the judgment. And President Trump wanted the whole case thrown out. This is what Judge Marchand said in his order saying that we will have sentencing on Friday. In balancing the aforementioned considerations, meaning like the presidential immunity and things of that nature, in conjunction with the underlying concerns of presidential immunity doctrine a sentence of an unconditional discharge appears to be the most viable solution to ensure finality and allow the defendant to pursue his appellate options. So he's trying to look like he's a fair judge saying I'm not going to fine him the unconditional discharge would just be like you're a convicted felon no other penalties or punishments go along your way and you can appeal this then. He's trying to make it look like he's being fair to the president by saying, now he can go appeal this. Now he can go get it overturned. But in reality, as you mentioned, Jordan, it's just trying to put that stain of convicted felon on the incoming president of the United States before he is sworn in on January 20th. And President Trump also has filed this morning saying, hey, scrap that on Friday because we've appealed your immunity ruling already at the appeals court. So you should be putting all these proceedings on pause. The person who would make this decision based off that filing by President Trump would be Judge Mershon. The fact he already decided to schedule this on Friday, I don't think you're going to change his mind at that point. But the president's legal team is still fighting these issues very actively.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, let's go ahead and take a phone call. Let's go to Bill who's calling in Wyoming on line one. You can call in to 1-800-684-3110. And again, I wanted to welcome everyone who's watching on Salem News Channel. We are live. This is our first day being live on Salem News Channel. And if you're watching, I'd love to hear from you. Give us a call, 1-800-684-3110. Of course, if you're watching or listening anywhere else, you can call in as well. But make sure to tell our phone screeners that you're watching on Salem News Channel. Thank you for having us. All right, Bill, in Wyoming, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. If I was emailing anybody, I think I would be putting a large LOL on this because I think that they just created a wonderful statue and have applied gold leafing to the top of it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think, listen, I mean, ultimately here, when you're talking about the situation with President Trump is, listen, they tried to use lawfare to take down President Trump. It didn't work. Other people, I'm not so sure, could have withstood this situation. kind of barrage legally and I say it for two reasons one he's particularly tough and tested he's already been president of the United States he's built up a huge support base number two you saw kind of like the parity between him and Joe Biden whose family was also under these criminal investigations and let me tell you something those criminal investigations made a lot more sense to the American people about why they were being looked at because it was you know the Hunter Biden stuff and and It just seemed it was easier to connect in your head than a unknown election law federally that was somehow tied to a business records law in New York that somehow together took a misdemeanor to a felony. That's a much tougher leap for people to take. And the second part is this. If you're on the right... We've been preaching this idea of the court systems being weaponized and used, and we call it lawfare. And we've really made the example of President Trump and some of those who surrounded him as kind of like the first time true lawfare came to the United States of America. Not just through political fights like impeachment, but actual state court systems and federal court systems. And we were able to see President Trump really wear these as part of a badge of honor. is that if they're going to go after me here here here and here it's because they're so scared of what i can do politically they're so scared of me coming back into office because if i can do this even with all these stains and distractions it shows that we'll be able to get a lot of my policies in place and that's what they're truly afraid of on the left is that president trump president trump's policies are more important to the american people than personality and that it wasn't an election based off oh who do you think's nicer and a person that's a nicer person to be around that's not how people would elect the president of the United States they want to look who's tougher who's been through the ringer the most and comes out and can still run our country at a time when we've got a couple of wars going on threats of other conflicts I think that you put all that together and you realize listen are they ever going to stop coming for president Trump I don't think so I think he's got a couple more years of this probably in his own presidency. They might stop after that because you start then getting towards the next Republican president of the United States. It's not going to be him. But in these first two years... This is still going to be a time we have to be on guard and ready to fight every step of the way because we have not put in place any of the cabinet members yet.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, welcome back to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. The election being certified today. Listen, we are preparing for the new president of the United States. It's interesting what moves we're seeing around the world as we prepare the United States for an inauguration. There's a lot of new state leaders coming in. I was with the next attorney general in West Virginia. They get sworn in a week before so a lot of state leaders too to work with here at the ACLJ and then you'll the of course president of the United States and the vice president will be sworn in hearings are already going to start taking place on cabinet members this week and that will I think get a lot of attention some of those hearings will be very kind of blah they probably won't get as much attention that doesn't mean that those jobs by the way aren't just as important in fact I mean one of the biggest jobs out there probably says secretary of state but I don't see Rubio having a real difficult confirmation hearing there may be issues where he disagrees with other senators on that he'll talk about that but the fieriness of it I don't really imagine that's going to be it's going to be more about, you know, what do you think of the issues you've got to face right now? And I think basically, if you pay attention to foreign policy at all in the United States, you know what those issues are. The second is it's going to be the Tulsi Gabbard types. They've decided they want to go to war with her. And it's not just the Democrats. Right. We're going to have to work on a campaign we've already started to put together on the right as well to make sure Republicans know that we support Tulsi Gabbard in this position because the Director of National Intelligence needs to be someone who's not afraid to stand up to these intelligence agencies and tell the President the truth. That's ultimately what we care about is getting the truth to the President and ultimately making sure they're not over-classifying documents so that the American people are always in the dark about what the government that we pay for with our tax dollars is actually doing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and Jordan, when you look at what happened last week even with the terror attack in New Orleans where the FBI said they had no intelligence about this person, when he had chemicals within his home, that were not a type of IED bomb that had been used in America or Europe yet. It was only a Middle East style bomb. But yet they had no intel on that this person was trying to make that bomb and got successfully the components to do that. Thankfully, those IEDs, which had remote triggers, did not go off. Or else there would have been a lot more carnage and destruction than he already was able to pull off. But that's been the problem we've seen with this entire national security team of President Biden's. They wanted to cozy up to Iran. They wanted to try to re-invoke that deal. They let the Middle East devolve into chaos. And they focused on... parents at school board meetings, at Catholics that happen to enjoy the Latin mass as their part of their liturgy. They didn't go after the real targets that needed to be by our intelligence community. That's why you need Attorney General Pam Bondi Kash Patel at the director of the FBI, Tulsi Gabbard at the director of national intelligence and Pete Hegseth as the secretary of defense. We've got to get those people confirmed and their deputies, as you always remind us, because the danger of the bureaucracy continuing, we're going to see worse things happen if we don't get this cleaned up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, listen, if we don't get their deputies in place, their chosen politically appointed deputies that have to go through confirmation as well, and their confirmation is usually quicker. It's usually done in like three or four or five at a time. You know, really, that you're walking into the fire. on day one when you're walking in without any of your deputies actually being confirmed and we saw that from everything from HUD to Department of Justice to the Russia investigation it happened inside the White House it happened to Mike Flynn there was no one around to protect them There was no one standing in place, and that's because they were reliant on the bureaucracy to do what political appointees are there to do. And I hope every one of these nominees who wasn't around four years ago goes back and learns that history. And you are very careful when you enter that office. and basically do everything you can not to have to make major decisions watch who you're telling people about talking to people about until you start getting your actual team in place which is the job of the u.s senate right now that's their next job confirm these nominees confirm their deputies so that the government can function and we can drain the swamp of washington dc we're working on it now go to aclj.org and support that work Welcome back to Secular. We've got some calls coming in. 1-800-684-3110. And Logan, as you said, we are on a new network through our friends at Salem today. Tell people about that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we are launched today live on the Salem News Channel. That's the big difference. We've been on. We have been on, but delayed. Now we are live, so you can watch us at noon Eastern time and work your way back from there with a great lineup of other hosts on the Salem News Channel. So go check them out. I think it's available online. Pluto, it's available on a few other options, but of course on their website as well. But Jack is calling from Pennsylvania. First caller from the Salem News Channel. Go ahead, Jack.
SPEAKER 02 :
My question is, today, of course, the president is to be, that is, President Trump is to be certified. In what ways and how likely is it that the Democrats are going to try to bollocks things up for the president and and make things difficult for his certification.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I mean, we know that many Democrats probably will try to object. I mean, this is not new. Democrats have been objecting to Republican presidents for decades. I mean, George W. Bush had many people try to block the certification. It's only insurrection when it was people on the right doing it. But Yes, I assume there will be especially far left members of Congress today that try to block the certification. It begins, they gavel in, in about 22 minutes from now, right after this show ends live. And so we'll be keeping an eye on it. There's that famous clip from Jamie Raskin before the announcement of the Supreme Court decision where he said, it's up to us, it's up to Congress to block this. He has since said he doesn't expect there to be an objection to it moving forward. I think it's also hard when you see how overwhelming both popular vote and electoral college that President Trump won. But there is still rhetoric coming out of our current president that if it were on the other side would be taken as violent rhetoric as trying to stir up something. Fortunately, there is a massive snowstorm in D.C., so I don't think there's even going to be public protests. They have about 10 inches of snow. But let's go ahead and listen to President Biden just yesterday being asked by a reporter if he still thinks President Trump is a threat to democracy. Let's play bite one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you still believe he's a threat to democracy?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think what he did was a genuine threat to democracy. So President Trump Genuine threat to democracy just, you know, a day before the Congress, Jordan, is about to certify President Trump's election. I think, if anything, that shows that democracy can work in the United States.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, as we get closer and we are getting very close to President Trump becoming the next president of the United States. Their rhetoric is going to get nastier. They're going to get more angry. They're going to look for more targets. I think that's why you talk about the nominees. You talk about the individuals who are going to be put forward as cabinet secretaries, directors at the top level who have got to get confirmed. Democrats are going to pick and choose those they want to go to war with and make an issue of. And that's not so outside the norm. I think it is pretty outside the norm for the former president, a current president who's about to be the former president, to call the incoming president still a danger. Because those kind of words evoke action. like something has to still be done to prevent a dangerous person from being president of the United States and I believe that that kind of rhetoric is not what we need after we've seen this president who has been shot at as we know twice, two attempted assassinations that we know of, one that actually he was shot, we know about the issues Now, we've seen some of the chaos just recently. We've seen the attacks in New Orleans. I want a president going in who's focused 100% on making sure that we're safe in our own country, that our allies respect us, our enemies fear us, and it has the team in place to start getting the policies done. And that we on the outside can look at some of these issues and fight back and push back. But as President Trump has said, and even his attorneys have said, he should not have to be thinking about sentencing on Friday, January 10th, when he's preparing right now to become commander in chief.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think safety is that number one. I think it's moved even above the economy for a lot of people because you've seen these terrorist attacks happen. You've seen all this. We feel unsafe. Yes, it feels out of control. If President Trump wants to win over the country once again, which I mean, he did in the Electoral College and in the popular vote. But if he wants to win over everyone else, I believe he can do that simply. I mean, it's not simply, but by making us feel like a safe country once again. And look, this comes after we didn't even done a show since Mike Johnson was confirmed. It was about to happen as we were going off the air on Friday and we saw him in the first ballot. Take it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, that's unusual. I mean, so in the first ballot, he was able to put through, there were three holdouts. He needed two to move, two did move, and that was it. I mean, this, I think, that was a good showing for what the Republican House is going to be able to do. I think the Republican Senate is pretty unified as well. And so you get President Trump in, and listen, you've got, people talk about a lot about the first 100 days, but it's really, it's the first two years. before all of the house has to go up for re-election and a third of the U.S. Senate has to go up for re-election so they're not in Washington as much and they have to start taking more they have to think about their votes in a more political nature because they're being watched and tracked by their own constituents not that they aren't always but they're going to be the ones in the news because they're up for re-election that for the house members that's all of them For the Senate, though, that's a third. So you take this time right now. People talk about that first 100 days. Don't get bogged down with a Jim Comey. Don't get bogged down with investigations. Get in there and get legislation done.
SPEAKER 10 :
I do see some comments coming in. I want to get to Will's thoughts on that. But I see some comments coming in, people that are watching, and they see the headline about Trudeau, and we haven't brought that back up. So people are curious what happened and where we are. And it was this morning, right before we went on air, he went out and made a statement essentially saying, and Trudeau was saying, I am resigning effective when they've picked a new leader, but he is not going to be prime minister anymore, probably within the next few months.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. So his statement was that he's resigning as the leader of their party. So effective immediately and will resign as prime minister once that party leader has been chosen. Now, that means they have suspended the parliament until March 24th. They were supposed to come back later this month, but this will allow time for their party to pick a new leader. So it's almost like they're in a stalemate in Canada right now. Like not much is going to happen until this new leader is picked. So when it's some people I know are saying it's like he didn't resign. He is he is laid out the red carpet for his resignation while he is still technically prime minister. So there is a leader of Canada until that happens. The moment they are able to get together and get a new leader in that party is he is still the Prime Minister and then the Conservatives have already signaled they will go for a no-confidence vote as soon as they come back in March 24th which will then trigger an election if successful and so then even that new parliamentary leader that new Prime Minister of Canada may be very short-lived depending on when that election takes place in Canada So it could be a conservative prime minister this spring coming up. So hopefully that catches everyone up. But also to the other point where we've been talking about all of the chaos that people were predicting around the Mike Johnson vote, it did end up being in that first round because they held the vote open until those two changed their mind. But what I think people should also be reminded of, you brought up the midterms are always looming for the members of the House. I think they should be very careful in this first hundred days, really even first six months to a year of this Trump presidency, that the people gave a mandate to President Trump. If you are going to fiddle around too much with the process and try to get that little bit of extra When there's a clear mandate, if you're holding out when President Trump clearly gave his endorsement behind Mike Johnson and you still had to have your 15 minutes of fame on TV, you had to be the two that were hold out and were so easily flipped. But so that your name was read or maybe you got some concession from the Speaker of the House. Now's not the time to do that. Remember, your election is coming up. You're going to start campaigning. I mean, you're already starting to raise funds for your midterm election if you're in the House. And don't think that people will not remember that you were the person that held up the America First agenda if you're a Republican. If you start trying to get cute and play with the rules and try to get a little bit something extra or get your name on TV, that's not going to help you when it comes to your constituents that probably, especially if you're a Republican, just overwhelmingly
SPEAKER 10 :
sent president trump back to the white house and some of these conservative members of congress had a much tougher job getting back into the house than president trump did getting back into the white house so remember that when uh when you're trying to decide what to do here coming up yeah but hey we got a minute left in this segment but we're going to come back and we want to take all the calls we can so if you have a statement a comment or question on whether it's trudeau or whether it's trump sentencing or the certification of the election or the inauguration coming up give us a call right now we'd love to hear from you or anything Any issues you may have, 1-800-684-3110. Again, 1-800-684-3110. So give us a call. It's a great time. We've got a few lines open. Perfect time to call in, but also a perfect time to sign our new petition. Over 150,000 of you have already. We'd love to hit 200,000. Scan the QR code on your screen right now or just go to aclj.org or aclj.org slash sign petition. And if you can't call in right now, you can put a comment in on YouTube or on Rumble. If you don't know what to comment, let me know where you're watching from. Maybe we have some Canadian viewers. Just let us know, though, where you are watching the show from. We always love to see that in the comments. So do that today and do it right now. Again, support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. Your call is coming up. 1-800-684-3110.
SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome back to Seculo. We are taking calls. There's a couple about up, so we'll get to those. 1-800-684-3110. So the election will be certified today on Capitol Hill, snowy Washington, D.C. Again, I don't think that that will, I'm sure they'll show some of that. It is the election certification. And you might get some speeches from some liberals around this trying to evoke what happened four years ago. But the truth is, I think the country has moved on.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you may not want to hear from her. I understand that. But Kamala Harris put out a video this morning about the certification. I think we should hear it and go to it just because I think it's interesting for people to see the rhetoric now coming out. You know, a month ago, two months ago, this was Hitler. We were dealing with Hitler. Literal fascists. Literal fascists. But take a listen to the video that came out this morning from Vice President Kamala Harris.
SPEAKER 01 :
The peaceful transfer of power is one of the most fundamental principles of American democracy. As much as any other principle, it is what distinguishes our system of government from monarchy or tyranny. Today at the United States Capitol, I will perform my constitutional duty as Vice President of the United States to certify the results of the 2024 election. This duty is a sacred obligation. one I will uphold, guided by love of country, loyalty to our Constitution, and my unwavering faith in the American people. As we have seen, our democracy can be fragile, and it is up to then each one of us to stand up for our most cherished principles. and to make sure that in America, our government always remains of the people, by the people, and for the people. May God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.
SPEAKER 10 :
So that's a statement that came out this morning here on January 6th, the day that the election will be certified. It has to be certified. And I believe it's only the second time in recent history where the person who lost has to certify the election. So I believe it happened to Al Gore. Al Gore had to do that, yeah. Al Gore had to do it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that's right, because he was actually... He was the vice president. Mike Pence was not the presidential candidate. No. But he did. He was the vice president. So that's interesting to point that out. I do think, again, it makes their rhetoric hollow. which I think most people knew. I think a lot of it was driving violence against President Trump and also to see if they could build some, I don't know, new grassroots movement that they were really lacking in that election. But the truth is, if you really believed it was a fascist, And a Nazi. You wouldn't be making these statements. Not only would you not be making these statements today, you'd say, go have someone else do it today. I'm out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it's kind of like you look at the situation, you may not agree with it. President Trump didn't show up till the last inauguration of Joe Biden because he was contesting the results of the election. So if you truly believe that there were issues with the election, you wouldn't show up. and be there today. It feels like a similar situation where it's like, of course she's showing up because it's just political talk. It was just political rhetoric the whole time. Uh, let's go ahead and take a phone call. Let's go to Charles who is watching in North Dakota. You're on the air, Charles.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Good morning. Good morning. I guess it is for you. I just was, I was curious about, uh, what you might think about the appellate court stepping in and preventing, um, judge Marshawn from, um, sentencing Trump on the 10th I think it is what do you think of that it seems like it that that would really do if he if the appellate court would come in I don't I don't know if they can do that but I'm just asking what what do you think about that well President Trump is going to file before sentencing so that we know that
SPEAKER 11 :
Whether or not they will come in or not before that, that will remain to be seen. Usually it would be post-sentencing, but before the sentencing was carried out. But this time around, they're challenging whether or not the sentencing is even proper because of the case on immunity out of the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right, Jordan. And in that filing that we referenced earlier, where they asked Marshawn to to not move forward with the sentencing on Friday, they make reference and they gave a deadline basically to the judge saying, if we want to hear from you by 2 p.m. today, so 2 p.m. Eastern time today. uh on whether or not you will cancel that sentencing if not we are going to then file an appeal asking for a stay of the sentencing proceeding while the other issues are appealed out at the appeals court once again i do think uh personally i feel like that's a little bit of a long shot that judge mershon is going to find a way to continue forward and that the appeals court may not want to weigh into that and just let President Trump appealed the sentencing, especially since the judge has already signaled that it's going to be that unconditional discharge. That's what he wrote, that he sees that as the best path forward. He said he's put aside the fears of there being jail time. So I don't think that the judge is trying to create a full constitutional crisis, but is trying to still get that last word in there of saying, you're a convicted felon, no punishment really, let's move on, appeal, whatever, get it out of my court. That's the way I look at it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, I think, listen, we are the ultimate reality is they would like to use this to to try and utilize it against President Trump as a political phrase, you know, convicted felon. But let's just be honest. He won with all of that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Overwhelmingly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hanging over his head.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. Overwhelmingly won. And of course, as we wrap up, we do need to address the Presidential Medal of Freedom that was announced. There's a big list of people. Of course, the ones that are getting the most attention are both Hillary Clinton. And, of course, you couldn't have done it without George Soros. So if you wanted to spin people out of control. I think Soros was actually there, right? He was there. I thought his son was there. Was he? I'm not sure exactly. I believe George Soros was on the list. And then you had other people. Your Bonos, your Bill Nye the Science Guy, Messi. Bill Nye. But then Posthuman. Messi was out there, right? I don't believe. I didn't believe I saw him, so I don't think so. See? Do you think he even knew what this was? I love Messi. He's the greatest soccer player of all time. Were they thinking because he took the MLS to another level? There's a whole thing with the UNICEF and some of the work he's done for charities. But posthumously, you had RFK Sr., Robert F. Kennedy, and you had a George Romney posthumously.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's why Mitt was there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mitt Romney accepted it on behalf of George Romney, and it was George Soros' son, who we've seen in photos with every liberal elite recently. He runs a political fund. Right, he did receive it on behalf of his father. George Soros is a very old man, yeah. So it was definitely utilizing the Presidential Medal of Freedom to give a final farewell of we don't like you conservatives by doing all of these. They politicized the Presidential Medal of Freedom right here at the end.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I bet. Half of them are, like, understandable. You have a Michael J. Fox, who's done a lot for charity work. You have, you know, Magic Johnson, Jane Goodall. You kind of look at those lists. Even Bill Nye the Science Guy. You may not agree with him, but you're like, okay, at least he's done something. Bono, you know, who's been involved in every sort of charity. Ralph Lauren.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, you know, those that are into big fashion. Big brand.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Well, he's done a lot also for like cancer research and some of these other people. But when you throw a George Soros in there and then you throw an RFK senior and then a Romney, it does feel like you said, like another moment where the Biden administration decided, let's just plant some more conspiracies. Let's take some more people off right here at the last second.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, Mitt Romney's not going to be there anymore, so he's not going to be in the U.S. Senate. Then you've got Soros didn't even come. In 95. And you've got RFK Jr. joining the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly. I don't think that was RFK Jr. there. I don't think he got to accept it on behalf of his father. I don't know. All right, well, if you want to stop this political prosecution, you can do it right now. Go to aclj.org slash sign. Scan the QR code. Do it right now. 150,000 of you have already. Let's get that up to 200,000. We really would love it. We'll be back tomorrow. Hey, and thank you for watching. If you're watching on Salem News Channel, we will be here each and every day. at noon eastern so you can find us live there along with another great uh cast of hosts that do great shows on that network so we're excited to be part of the salem news channel live feed now so thank you so much uh again aclj.org slash sign do it right now support the work if you can become an aclj champion a monthly recurring member we would really appreciate it back tomorrow
As America faces a critical moment in its history, Don Crawford calls on citizens to stand up against lawlessness and insist on the rule of law. This episode highlights the importance of truth and integrity, urging a re-examination of leadership and participation in governance. Crawford challenges every listener to embrace their role in shaping a nation built on the values of freedom, justice, and truth, asking poignant questions about their willingness to protect the American way of life.
SPEAKER 02 :
The Crawford Stand with the president of Crawford Media Group, Don Crawford. These days we hear a lot about the so-called Great Reset. All this week, Mr. Crawford sets the tone for not a Great Reset, but a recommitment to America.
SPEAKER 01 :
There is not, nor has there ever been, a nation like the United States of America. I am so blessed. to have lived here all my life and to have been a citizen of this great, great country. America is a nation conceived in freedom. It treasures and fosters democracy. It is a constitutional nation, and it is a nation where, as Dr. Martin Luther King so well said, if, in fact, its citizens live up to that constitution and treasure it and believe in it, and enforce it, all men and women who are created equal can live a life to the fullest. I believe that. Do you? No matter our problems, we have the greatest opportunity to live as free men and women in the history of mankind. A real America. Right-thinking men and women thank God every day, every day, for the privilege of living in America and being an American. Do you? Do you thank God every day for where you live, Are you proud to be an American? Are you? There seem to be so many people today who are not proud to be an American. No matter our problems, we can fix them. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. And since this great country can do so much for you, remember the words of President John F. Kennedy, who admonished us to ask not, said Kennedy, what America can do for you, ask what you can do for America. That, in my opinion, should be the motto of every real American. Thank you, President Kennedy. And our American Constitution. What a document. Please read it and understand what you can. Do your best to understand it. Study anything which helps you understand the incredible rights and privileges and duties which are yours as a citizen and as an American. Think always about the First Amendment to that Constitution, perhaps the finest words and rights and privileges and opportunities and expressions of freedom ever written in the history of mankind. The First Amendment of America's Constitution allows you full and unabridged freedom of religion and speech and press and assembly and petition. Nowhere else in the world, nowhere else is that guaranteed. These precious freedoms are the very best that can be offered to any human being, and they are essential. They are priorities. They are guaranteed to every man and woman by this Constitution and its very precious First Amendment. Read it. Read that amendment. Know it, treasure it, and thank God for it. We are a nation of the rule of law, or we should be. It is watered down today, often ignored or even eliminated in this woke and radical and growing anti-American day and age. Lawlessness in the end times, says the scripture, prevails and runs rampant. And that is happening today. So, my fellow Americans, stand up Stand up to lawlessness and insist upon the rule of law. Insist upon equal justice for all. Equal justice for all. From the president on down. Of course there is risk in so doing, but the reward is well worth the risk, don't you think? Where else would you want to live? Right and wrong. Ah, right and wrong. There are those today that think there is no such thing as right or wrong, or truth. There is no absolute truth, so said our former President Obama. We live in the age of post-truth, he said. Whatever that means says a lot about him, doesn't it? This is the day and age of the lie. The lie. Oh, it's everywhere. And that is something which is not the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. We live in a culture where there is no such thing as absolute truth, and consequently the lie, that which is not the truth, prevails. And that is wrong. That is so dead wrong. There is right and wrong. There is truth. And never forget the words of our Lord Jesus Christ. I am the way, the truth, and the life. I am the truth. said our Lord Jesus Christ. Believe in him and you will know the truth indeed. So, my fellow Americans, stand tall for America. Protect it. Our founding fathers were willing to die for it. Are you? Am I? Are there enough Americans left who are willing to do whatever is required to protect and defend the greatest land in the history of mankind? Are there? Are you one? Oh, I do hope and pray you are. So much of the world despises, even hates America. Perhaps that is because we live hypocritically. We do not stand tall for our ideals, our freedoms, and our way of life. And we are not consistent, constantly compromising, and so often not holding individuals and nations accountable for their actions. We the people need to redefine who we are as a nation. and make those ideals, those values and standards clear, and stand for them, stand up for them, no matter the cost. Now more than ever, are you willing to do that? Are you? I ask in this great year that you get politically involved. All of us get involved with our government and make sure it runs right with the right people. We need to be more critically involved as citizens of America and Christians, and especially Christians. We need to be active in government. We need to take positions of authority locally and to make certain our neighborhoods, towns, and cities are safe, law-abiding, and true to American ideals and our Constitution and our rule of law and our way of life. We, the people, need to stand up Stand up. We need to make certain right-thinking and right-acting men and women are elected to office, men and women who will truly represent us, and even more importantly, our Constitution and our rule of law and all that America should be. We, the people, need to make certain that happens. For, if not, we need to speak out critically so, aggressively, and withhold financing, and withhold our vote, And where necessary, exercise the process of recall. Get them out of office and do whatever we can to get elected or appointed officials worthy of citizen trust. Get those unworthy out of office. We, the people, need to stand up now before it's too late. And pay attention to these wokers, these progressives, these anti-Americans. Know who they are. for they are everywhere, everywhere. They are determined to effectuate radical change, or even in so many cases, the destruction of the American way of life. They would water down or eliminate much of our Constitution, curtail our freedoms, control family and education, and change the way we live, even the way we think and believe. Oh, please, my fellow Americans, please don't let it happen. Time is short. America needs right-thinking Americans in action now more than ever. Be proud. Be proud to be an American. Be proud to be a citizen of the real America, the constitutional America, the just America, with its freedoms. And be proud to stand tall as America beckons, asking you now more than ever to be a soldier in the fight for freedom. Wear the flag. Salute the military. Proudly sing and respect the national anthem, Stand Up for America. And pray that God will bless America, convicted of its wrongdoings, and once again make it the city on the hill, the shining light among nations, a country safe and protected for us today and for our descendants tomorrow. So let us proudly sing, God bless America. America. God bless America, the land that I love.
SPEAKER 02 :
The views expressed here on the Crawford Stand are those of the speaker, and as always, Mr. Crawford would love to hear from you this week. Do you feel like we're in a critical time going into this new year with regard to America? Tell him in your email to stand at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. When you want to review what you hear, go to our website, CrawfordMediaGroup.net. By the way, when you write to Mr. Crawford, be sure to tell him on what station you hear the stand. The email address again is stand at CrawfordMediaGroup.net. The Crawford Stand is a public affairs presentation of Crawford Media Group and this station. Serving God and country, I'm Bill McCormick.
Join Bill and chartered financial analyst Barry Kite as they delve into the current economic environment influenced by Biden's policy changes and the unexpected market closures. While energy and nuclear stocks experience remarkable growth, Bill provides a detailed analysis of the tech sector, including the promising advancements in quantum computing and the potential future implications. The episode wraps up with insightful commentary on emerging opportunities within autonomous vehicle technologies. Stay informed and ahead with insights from seasoned market experts.
SPEAKER 02 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome to the Monday. It is the Monday, January 6th live edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst, and we have a pretty good start. To the markets, the gates opened at 9.30 a.m., and wow, they came rushing out of there, and they're still doing pretty well here. The Dow is up 286. It's still a few thousand points below its all-time. The Dow is at 43,018, and the NASDAQ is up 284 right now. That works out to 1.4%. Puts the NASDAQ at 19,903, just shouting distance away from that 20,000 level that it set last year. We have the S&P is up 64 points, 1.1%. The Russell 2000 is up three-quarters of a percent. The bond market a little bit, it's up a couple basis points. We're at 4.61%, so much for the Fed rate cuts. The market sets interest rates, not the Fed. And the market's basically saying that the Fed was wrong. We're right. Here's where they belong, 4.61. And crypto doing well today. The cryptocurrency, it's nearing 100,000 once again. Yeah, I got 101,000 here on the screen. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show. with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. It sounds like the creeping crud, the cold ice blast, Arctic blast, is steadily heading its way easterly. It's not here yet. We're at like 55 degrees, but our producer in Dallas says it's in the 20s today. And it didn't help that a semi caught on fire. And the fire department put it out with water, but caused it created a big ice skating rink right in the middle of the busiest freeway in Dallas. It's coming your way. So, you know, bundle up. It's going to be a cold one. And in the meanwhile, the market has started off on a very warm note. You know, we had a big blast in the market higher on Friday before we went home for the weekend. In fact, we had a very good close after three, really four snotty days in a row of the market. You just can't predict it these days. I will say this. We're either getting big up moves or we're getting big down moves in the market, and that has caused the VIX index, the volatility index, to rise. Let's just hope we don't get too many big down moves this week. Thursday's going to be an off day, very rare. In the market, the market will be closed as we mourn the loss of Jimmy Carter. Very unusual for the market to be closed.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, interesting enough, the bond market's going to be open for a little bit during that day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I've got to have liquidity.
SPEAKER 04 :
Some commerce, yeah, exactly. Some commerce has to occur.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. The Dow was up 340 on Friday before, you know, at the end of the day. And the NASDAQ was up also 340 points. But, of course, a 340-point move in the NASDAQ is about double the percentage move of a 340-point move in the Dow. Because you have a bigger denominator there in the Dow than you do in the NASDAQ. And we had the longest losing streak prior to that. Very unusual since April of last year or so. You never know what you're going to get when you wake up in the morning. I did see that the futures, they were just kind of, you know, not doing much last night. And then this morning I saw they were pretty buoyant. I'm going to guess... The news that I saw that probably is driving this occurred at 12.53 a.m. in China. China services sector growth accelerates to a seven-month high in December amid new business inflows. So, okay, we talk about catalysts in the market. And we talk about areas of the world that affect the market more than others. And I would say China, of all the countries out there, I'm saying China probably has the biggest impact. Europe's probably number two as far as their economic reports that come in and how they impact our markets. China obviously a very important economy out there and a lot of companies depending on China for the parts that they need, the flow of goods that they need, the chain, the supply chain. And it's a big trading partner and everything. And I also saw some news. I don't know where it was said, but Trump is maybe looking to moderate his stance on tariffs a little bit. And I think you take those two things together. And that's why you're having this big pop in the market here today. What, we're two weeks out? I think today they certify the results of the election, and of course it was four years ago today, January 6th, that there was a little bit of upheaval there in that certification. Today it won't be... It won't be vice president. Who was Trump's vice president?
SPEAKER 04 :
Easy come, easy go.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mike Pence. It won't be Pence doing it. It will be Kamala Harris certifying her loss. And let's see if there's any kind of drama or anything like that. We're not expecting any.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and two years ago today, too, you penned the NASDAQ article in terms of the NASDAQ bottom. That was two years ago today, I believe.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let's hope today's not the NASDAQ top. We don't know. We won't know until a year from now or two years from now. But as always, we remain vigilant. I have heard a lot of, I listen to other people out there that are big market commentators. I was listening to Daniel, let's see, Ives. Is it Dan Ives this morning? Yeah, Dan Ives, yeah. And, you know, he feels about the same way I do as far as the macros of the market. He says it should be concerning, you know, that the P.E. of the S&P is up there right now around 25 or 26.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's a big growth guy, too, which is him saying, him even talking about valuations is kind of, you know, is a bit of a warning sign.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, I wouldn't say that he's not bearish this year, but he does see the potential for a 20% drop in the market. And guess what his number one pick for 2025 was? Cash was number one. And then he had his number two pick was Cisco. which I don't understand at all, but he's obviously on his back feet there a little bit defensive going into this year, as I am also because of the valuations of the market and because of a lot of changes coming this year. We don't know how it's going to go. The tariffs, obviously, in two weeks we have a new administration coming in. It's going to be like night and day versus the last administration. You're going to have the mass deportations. Will this be upheaval? I don't know. I think you have to step a little carefully here this year and be very vigilant as always, but a little more vigilant than normal. German inflation got a little bit of a surprise this morning. 2.6, it actually went up, going the wrong direction. I think it's their energy issues over there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and didn't believe over the weekend, I think the Ukraine, the pipeline that we were talking about last week, that Europe's been still getting some gas from. I think that agreement is gone. So they've got at least at the moment a supply issue. And for them, I mean, you've got inflation ticking up and GDP ticking down. Those going in opposite directions are never a good sign.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. And in the meantime, U.S. Steel is going to sue both of them. Nippon Steel are filing lawsuits after Biden blocked the merger deal. I don't think they have a leg to stand on. You know, I mean, I think if it comes to something that we deem as important to America or to national security, it's always that that's the no pun intended.
SPEAKER 04 :
But that's always the trump card is national security and basically would do whatever we want.
SPEAKER 03 :
And, of course, you know, Biden's still got two more weeks to go. He's been pretty busy when we come back.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's been busier in the last two months than he's been in the entire term.
SPEAKER 03 :
He announced some closures and some pretty big bodies of water today for drilling. And, you know, with just two weeks to go, he's... He's been very active and busy, and then we've got a lot to talk about nuclear. Boy, those stocks have been on fire once again. Probably the best performing stocks in the first week of the year. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the Biden ban on drilling is just a few bodies of water. It bans drilling in the Atlantic and the Pacific.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
What else do we got left? Well, the Gulf of Mexico. Right. and the Mississippi River.
SPEAKER 04 :
I guess the Arctic Ocean.
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Yeah, there's still some, and it doesn't affect existing permits, but it will indefinitely ban offshore oil and gas development. in more than 625 million acres of coastal waters. You know, this is two weeks, obviously, before Trump will be inaugurated. The White House said Biden will use his authority under the 70-year-old Outer Continental Shelves Lands Act. to protect all federal waters off the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean. Now, I read that Trump could issue an order revoking it. He tried that with Obama's ban up in the Bering Sea in Alaska. And the appeals court turned it down. So it would be very difficult for Trump to overturn this ban in this massive amount of waters. It also includes some of the Gulf of Mexico also. Okay, utilities. Utilities have new life. That sector was up 17.8% last year compared to a 10% decline in 2023. What made the difference? Well, you look at your top movers in 2024. Vistra, up 258%. We own Vistra. We've done very well with Vistra. Vistra is a Texas utility, but it's a broker company. of energy, and it has a lot of exposure to nuclear, which is the new kid on the block. It was the old kid on the block, but now it's the new kid on the block again.
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Yeah, and you look at the stock, it has a 55 PE multiple for utility, and that's because of future ability to grow their power expansion.
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And how smart was the breakup of GE into three segments, including GE Vernova? which is the power segment, that stock up 151%. So Larry Culp has led a comeback in GE like one of the great comebacks of all time. And splitting off GE, which has a lot of nuclear exposure, that stock up 151% last year. And then, of course, Three Mile Island, which at one time was a dirty word in more ways than one. Constellation Energy up 91.4% last year. And then the fourth and fifth would be NRG, which is N-R-G, up 75%. And then Entergy up 49.9%. So, you know, I see that, personally, I see that trend continuing in 2025. And look at how we started the week. If the first week of January is supposedly a barometer, For the rest of the year, the best performing stocks last week, several of them were these exact stocks, Vistra and Constellation signed a big deal with the U.S. government. And let's not forget, let's go down a step. Now whether or not this ever becomes reality, the smaller nuclear reactors, the portable nuclear reactors, I think it definitely is going to become a reality. and uh... we saw a good movement last week in oklo we saw a good movement in SMR which stands for small modular reactors we saw good action in Ah, nanonuclear and a few others that are in that nuclear sector.
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In a broad-based AI kind of rally, I mean, you had everything from the power folks to, you know, NVIDIA, I think, is up, you know, 7% over the last few days, if you include today's movement. You know, you have... Anything to do with data centers, you had some of the quantum computing stocks kind of perked back up on Friday. So if that's a theme, it was a pretty broad-based theme across that whole sector.
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Yes, and, you know, like, okay, so last week, I mean, some of the top oil performers from last year, the top oil performer was Texas Pacific Land, TPL. which we own not only in the emerging growth portfolio but in the trade, the incubator portfolio. It was up 107% last year. This is one of the great performing stocks of the decade, DPL. Targa Resources was also a big winner last year, up 106. The oil sector was not a big winner, however. Kinder Morgan was up 54. Williams was up 52. And Oniok was up 41. So the pipeline stocks did well. And then like Texas Pacific Land, which is a hybrid, which buys land with the mineral rights. But overall, I mean, you look at the big energy producers. Devon was down 29% last year. Schlumberger was down 26.2%. Halliburton was down 25%. And the one that Warren Buffett was buying the most of, of any of the stocks in his portfolio, Occidental, was down 17.8% last year. with the S&P being up 23% last year. Okay, retail. Let's see, we've got Bank of America calling Amazon, Chewy, and RH, which is Restoration Hardware. And I did see they are working on their building downtown on Bay Street in beautiful downtown Charleston. They're going to put in a Restoration Hardware, which I think kind of fits our whole vibe that we've got going on here in Charleston.
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My wife's been having me look at restoration hardware online, and she's like, the closest one's in Asheville. And I'm like, I'm not driving to Asheville in hopes of a coffee table. So hopefully, yeah, they need to build. They can't build that thing fast enough.
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Yeah, they deliver. And the restaurant's going to be up there on top, too, which I think will be a nice little addition. I went to the restoration hardware restaurant in Minnesota. I couldn't believe how nice it was. Very good. Okay, I believe in Amazon. I don't know about Chewy myself, online dog biscuits, but, you know, hey, it's been a good... The guy who thought it up and brought it to fruition, it's become a big company. Well, you know, I got a taste of the New York City congestion when I was there two weeks ago. I mean, it took longer to get from the airport to Manhattan than it did to get from Charleston to the airport. in new york to la guardia but they're going to charge this congestion toll nine bucks a day even if you live there and i saw you know this lady was pulled over she said i live there why do i got to pay nine bucks to drive to my home well you know what they if they're gonna think of something it's either going to be thought up in new york or in california one of the two fubo Fubo, a big winner today. They had some kind of a legal spiff, and they decided to merge with somebody. With Disney. With Disney.
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And Hulu Plus, I believe.
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That's a good one to merge with. Fubo is the winner of the day, up 157%. I wonder, Kathy Wood, she was a big... Never mind it was $129 at one time, and now it's $3.59. We'll be right back. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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The instigator. Because there's something in the air.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the market kind of surging right now. We're surging. We're having a very good day. Actually, the market's about the same as when we opened the show. But I don't know. There's a couple of stuff I haven't identified yet. We have a few that have helped us a lot since the open of the market here today. My next subject... is the one I covered in the newsletter on Saturday. If you're not getting the newsletter, look, I mean, as we begin each year, I'm going to meet with my vice president today. We're going to certify the election of Bill Gunderson as the service CEO for another year, right? We'll see if I get the vote. Do I have the votes? I don't know. You have my vote. Okay, all right. But one of my goals is always to... Be ahead of the rest of the crowd. No question about it. I want to be the first, you know, out there way before Dan Niles finds it, way before Morgan Stanley finds it. That's not too hard to do. But to be out there, you know, on the cutting edge of things that are breaking and, you know, stay on top of the news and whatnot. Okay, so quantum computing obviously sprang out of nowhere last year.
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Well, when talking about Morgan Stanley, I think they just came out with a story today where they started coverage on Palantir as an underweight. I was like, where have you been?
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Now that it's tripled, okay, and it did affect, that was our one loser, well, one of our losers to open the day. But anyways, I went over that quantum sector over the weekend, and, you know, it's difficult to grasp. Maybe it's beyond the physics in my brain. I mean, Wikipedia can't even grasp it, really. A quantum computer is a computer that exploits quantum mechanical phenomena. On small scales, physical matter exhibits properties of both particles and waves, and quantum computing leverages this behavior using specialized hardware. So I put a picture of the hardware, just a little snapshot. It's pretty neat looking. I'd hate to assemble that thing. You know, I have a hard enough time with my Lionel O-gauge railroad wiring things. Sometimes I light up when we try doing that.
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I've been switching some sound stuff around. You talk about that stuff.
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Now you get into this quantum stuff. Classic physics cannot explain the operation of these quantum devices. Well, neither can I, so I don't feel so bad. And a scalable quantum computer could perform some calculations exponentially faster than any modern classical computer. theoretically a large-scale quantum computer could break some widely used encryption schemes and aid physicists in performing physical simulations. Now here's the big caveat. This is in Wikipedia. It says, however, the current state of the art is largely experimental and impractical.
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When you said theoretical in that reading at one point, I'm like, okay, theory.
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And there are several obstacles to useful applications. All right. But that hasn't stopped investors from piling in. We now have a quantum ETF, which I mentioned in the article. And I see it's got a very good chart, by the way. That might be a good way to play this whole sector. because you're getting exposure to about, you know, I've identified 10 actually, and I'm going to add one today. I'm going to talk about one I found this morning that has got quantum in its name, and I've never heard of it before, and it's more in the biotech sector of all things. So anyways, I'm tracking nine stocks and one ETF. ARQQ. We've got Core, which has been around for a long time, coherent semiconductors. You have IonQ. You have Marvell, which is a very well-known, you know, mature company. You've got the smaller ones, QBTS, QMCO. You've got the ETF, which is the symbol. They got the symbol, quantum, QTU. QTUM. Then you've got RadNet, Rigetti, and QUBT. They're behaving well today. Strap on your seatbelt. This is something that we're going to follow. And I would suggest, I think we're getting to the point where there's a few of them that are investable. For sure, I mean, Marvell and Coherent and RadNet are. And maybe Rigetti and maybe a couple others are investable. But down in the emerging growth portfolio, right, these are emerging. Right now they're in the incubator portfolio, but they could cross the line here. into some investments. Our emerging growth portfolio did very well last year. We nailed some big ones. And I think maybe there could be some here in this quantum. Now, the new one that I found today, okay, and it just came out in the news feed that I go over every single day. Let me see where that article is. I've got two newsletters open right now. There it is, QuantumSci.com. Symbol QSI. Okay, so this becomes the 11th member of the quantum sector that I'm tracking. I did add it to the database today. QuantumSci has entered into a securities purchase agreement with certain institutional investors for the purchase and sale of 15 million shares of common stock at $3.20 per share, blah, blah, blah. Now you go to QSI in Market Smith. I think they changed it to Market Surge. It used to be the daily graphs from Investors Daily. And the stock is pretty lively. It was down around a buck. All of a sudden it's four bucks. It's traded 35 million shares today. They develop access to the proteome with single molecule analysis and democratizing to researchers and clinicians. Okay, so if you go to their website, they are powering the proteomic era, which is groundbreaking power of single molecule proteomics with first to market next generation protein sequencer to every lab everywhere. So who knows?
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To every lab everywhere. It pretty much got all the bases covered right there.
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Yes. And you can go to their website. This little machine looks pretty cool. I think it could run my Lionel train. It looks pretty capable of a lot. But I look at the chart. And it's like, okay, this thing is just waking up. So who knows, maybe it'll show up in the incubator portfolio, but it is now in the database, and it will now be compared against all the other stocks in the database.
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What's that symbol again, Bill?
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QSI. QSI. Yep, and it is headquartered in... brantford connecticut so anyways we'll keep our eye on that if you want a stock to go up this is rule number 10b uh on gunderson's rule 10 sell it sell the stock and it will go up the next three days in a row for sure which is which is what uber has done i sold it the last day of 2024 To lock in some, we needed some capital.
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A little tax loss harvesting, yeah.
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Well, I probably, you know what, sometimes I think it's, I think taking taxes into account with, you know, like, okay, I've seen people that didn't want to take the capital gain. Well, guess what? Before long, they lost the capital gain because the stock went down. Sometimes I think using taxes as far as, you know, trading strategies is not a good idea. Uber has now gone up. Well, it's up 10% since I sold it. It's one of the best performers here today. They are announcing an accelerated share repurchase agreement. I'm a big believer in Uber. I don't think we've seen, you know, I think RoboTaxi is out there on the horizon for Uber. Palantir initiated. Okay, so initiated means they're picking up coverage. Some guy over at Morgan Stanley got a call or an email, hey Charlie, we're going to add a stock to your list for you to cover, or this team maybe. And they did their research, they did their work, and they came out with an underrate weighting. Never mind they missed the entire run. Palantir was one of the biggest winners in the market last year. Morgan Stanley picks up coverage, and they put out a... Their price target is like... 60 60 per share it's trading at 80 right now i don't know are they behind the curve i don't know but you know what i would say that's why we're surging because palantir was down pretty hard on that news and now it's almost even as they say does anybody listen to morgan stanley you know and buyers are coming into the stock right now All right, we'll be right back. How about a subscription to DraftKings? All you can bet for what, $50 a month? I don't know. There's a lot of crazy ideas out there and stocks to talk about. We'll be right back.
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You've got to go where you want to go. Do what you want to do with whoever you are.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Yeah, DraftKings is coming up with a subscription. You get better odds. $20 a month, they'll give you better odds, bigger payouts. Pony, I want to mention Pony.
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Better odds. Isn't that interesting? I mean, that'd be like if you went to the casino and the person next to you, right, gets paid out a little more on a blackjack than you do. It is strange.
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Okay. All right. Pony is one that I have my eye on, even though it's a Chinese stock. It looks to be a big leader. I think probably China will be a big market for the autonomous vehicles and the robo-taxis, you know, getting in, getting a ride, no driver. Pony is expanding their service to Hong Kong. I imagine Hong Kong is a lot like Manhattan, New York City. So we'll see how it works there. And then the last one I want to mention is Service Titan. That's a software stock that recently came public. But you know what? It's a sizable software company. nine point three billion dollars in market cap and uh... this thing's a hundred dollars a share headquartered in glendale california that's my birthplace glendale california at the glendale hospital there that's still there uh... home to service titan which i have added to my app It hasn't shown up in any of my A-plus momentum screens yet. And then this, the other one I would mention, and then we're going to look underneath the surface of the market, this antimony. Not alimony, antimony and stibnite. This also has ramifications in EV batteries, big time.
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Yeah, and they're trying to find something, or they've got some technology they're working on that I think doesn't use it, which would.
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keep us away reduce that impact of China keeping it away from us exactly and there's two major players here and this is going on mostly in Idaho where they're also trying to develop the portable nuclear reactor nano right Yep, this is Perpetua Resources, which I've mentioned before, breaking out to a new all-time high. And you can do a little bit of research on what antimony is used for and what it has the potential for. I can't remember the name of the other stock that they were teaming up with. I'd have to go back and look in my notes. But this is Antimony. They got approved, U.S. approval for a Stibnite project, Stibnite Antimony and Gold project in Idaho. So there's your Idaho stock of the day. Okay, now let's take a look underneath the surface of the market. You got a pretty good move in the market. I'll tell you the one that caught my eye was NVIDIA. What got into NVIDIA all of a sudden? I noticed towards the end of the week, I said, you know, this NVIDIA chart is really looking good again. And yes, look at it today. Now it's hitting the upper end of that range. It's been trading between $130 and $150. $152, call it, to be exact. And it's at $152 right now. Now the question is, is it going to remain in that sideways range? Or is it going to break out here to a new all-time high? And it's just like a dollar away from doing that. It's up to $3.7 trillion in market cap once again. It is now pulled even with Apple, just like that. I mean, it was way behind, and now all of a sudden. And I think they're looking ahead to his speech, Jensen Wang, at CES this week in Las Vegas. which will be all about electric vehicle. I mean, there will be a lot about robo-taxis. It will be a lot about robots, delivery devices, bringing you a Jersey Mike sandwich to your door. You know, maybe it will fly in with a drone, lower down a crane or whatever, and the robot will bring it. I don't know. That's where we're headed, okay? And then, of course, getting in a car without a driver and all this kind of thing. My wife will say she feels like that when I'm driving. She feels like she's getting into a car without a driver. I'm just kidding. But anyways. She gives me a hard time. I don't know. I've never been in an accident in my entire life.
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Usually, if you're on the road there, she's got to drive while you've got the computer and the Wi-Fi rolling.
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If we're on a long trip, I've got the charts going. I can get charts almost anywhere in America now. Let's see. So anyways, NVIDIA, that's an impressive-looking chart there. On the verge of a breakout. Okay. Other little ones that are impressive today. There they go again. Okay, look at Nano Nano NNE. That's one we own in the incubator account. Maybe we should call it the reactor account. We bought some more last week.
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That desk drawer is glowing with as much nuclear as you can.
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Now, what I do is I start off with just a 2.5% overall position. So that would mean if you had a fully invested, let's just say you're working with $25,000. So that would be roughly a $625 position. I start off pretty small. I don't want to have too much exposure to an incubator stock. Then if it starts to perform and the chart starts to look juicy like NNE does, I double that position to 5%. which we did last week, the nano. And that thing's up 12.6% today. Wow. It's not alone in the small nuclear space. You've also got Oklo, which is, oh my gosh, it's been on fire. It's up 11.6% today. And SMR is up 10.2%. And D-Wave Quantum is up 8.0%. So I can just tell you, obviously, it's a risk on day. You know, Bitcoin is an indicator of that going above $100,000. These stocks are going to have some huge down days, and you'll wish you'd have never met them, right? That's just the way it goes in this space, in this out there on the frontier horizon type stocks.
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And hence your 2.5% entry point. Yes, exactly.
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Spread the risk around. What does venture capital do? They spread the risk around because they know. A lot of them will never come to fruition. All right. Well, we're still on the four week trial of the of the live trading with live trading and incubator. It's live trading and investing, by the way. You know, it's also the stocks that I buy in the investment portfolios, which is 90% of what I do on a daily basis. And if you'd like to set up an appointment with us, if you're not happy where you're at, the guy just seems like, what are they doing over there for their fees? Give us a call at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Go to GundersenCapital.com. to get a four-week trial. Have a great day, everybody.
In today's episode, Kim Munson tackles the complexities of the Electoral College in the context of America's current political climate. Special guest Rob Nadelson brings his expertise to the conversation, shedding light on historical and contemporary issues affecting national and global politics. The discussion spans the dangers of concentrated political power and the importance of maintaining a balanced approach to governance, offering listeners a thorough understanding of both historical events and modern challenges.
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We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The show broadcasts 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast in the afternoon, 1 to 2. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. This is on all KLZ 560 platforms. And that is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. Recaps of the show are on my website, kimmunson.com. And let's see, what's the... Oh, the podcast then can be heard on Spotify and iTunes as well. We... Look at these issues, search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives. Force can be a weapon, policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. That's a big one right now. The World Economic Forum's agenda, which is playing out with the globalist elite's agenda, using the United Nations. This Colorado State Legislature has become very radical. This Colorado governor, the World Health Organization. Land use codes take away the opportunity of people to use their property the way they want to. Zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, et cetera. Remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. We focus on the issues here on the show, not on the personalities in political personalities. We will mention people as they're pushing for different issues, but we really want to stay focused on these issues. Let's see. Our first thing, our word of the day is proselyte. And it is a noun. It could be a new convert to a doctrine or a religion. Number two, it could be a new convert, especially a convert to some religion or religious sect or to some particular opinion system or party. It says, thus, a Gentile converted to Judaism or a pagan converted to Christianity is a proselyte. And, of course, we have political proselytes as well. And so your word of the day, it's spelled P-R-O-S-E-L-Y-T-E. And your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. I was looking for different justice quotes and ended up with James Monroe as our quote of the day. He was born on April 28, 1758. He died July 4, 1831. He was a founding father of the United Nations, or excuse me, United States, served as the fifth president of the United States, and he was the last founding father to serve as president. And again, he was one of the founding fathers of our country. And so interesting that he died on July 4, 1831. And apparently in that painting of Washington crossing the Delaware, the young man in the back of the boat is James Monroe. And he was, I think, 17 or 18, someone told me at that particular time. I really want to know more about him. But this is our quote of the day. He says, if it was wise, manly and patriotic for us to establish a free government, it is equally wise to attend to the necessary means of its preservation. And again, that's James Monroe. This day in history, several things. 1773, Massachusetts slaves petitioned the legislature for freedom. That was in 1773. In 1838, Samuel Morris and Alfred Vail demonstrate their telegraph machine in New Jersey. 1839, a weather event, two-day storm off the Irish and English coast, immortalized as the Big Wind. In 1853, U.S. President-elect Franklin Pierce and his family are involved in a train wreck in Massachusetts that kills his 11-year-old son, Benny. um tragic again the same history in 1873 the u.s congress begins investigating the credit mobiliar scandal a fraud by the union pacific railroad and credit mobiliar of america in the construction of the first transcontinental railroad And Burton Folsom, who was, I think he's formerly a professor at Hillsdale College, has written a very interesting book regarding the robber barons. And the next, this day in history is... So important. So here you've got government and big business getting in bed together to build the transcontinental railroad. And there's a fraud involved. Imagine that. But the Great Northern Railway is done in 1893. It connects Seattle with the East Coast. And now I'm drawing a blank on the name of the railroad. the founder of the Great Northern Railway, but he did that all without government money, and he was the one that did that, so important. In 1914, stock brokerage firm Merrill Lynch is founded. 1929, Mother Teresa arrives in Calcutta to begin her work among India's poorest. In 1941, U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt delivers his four freedom speech, the freedom of speech and worship, freedom from want and fear. That is... That is certainly that freedom from want and fear is a progressive tenet, because if you are going to have somebody that is free from want, that means maybe giving them things you can't give to someone, something that you have not taken from someone else. And that was his State of the Union address. In 1974, in response to the 1973 energy crisis, daylight savings time commences nearly four months early in the United States. 1979, the Village People's YMCA becomes the only UK number one single at its peak. It sells over 150,000 copies a day. And then 2021 was January 6th at the U.S. Capitol. And we're going to be talking with Rob Nadelson here in this first hour regarding the Electoral College. The second hour, our featured guest is Rebecca Lovrenz, who was in Washington on January 6th, 2021. She went there to pray. She briefly entered the conference. capital, and then she was ultimately convicted of, I think, four misdemeanors. And so we're going to want to talk with her about her story. So that is all this day in history. Headlines. Let's see, a couple of things here. First of all, today the Electoral College should certify the election of Donald Trump. And then Mike Johnson was voted to be the House Speaker, his second term. The Douglas County Republicans choose John Carson to fill the Senate District 30 vacancy list. Number four, this is really, this is really of great concern. This is Newsmax says the Biden White House has finally admitted that China can close down our ports and our power grid. And they made this stunning admission that these Chinese hackers have this ability, and it's reportedly not just run-of-the-mill intrusions, but increasingly sophisticated actors with unparalleled skills. Jake Sullivan, National Security Advisor, had known about the Chinese hackers' ability to knock out critical infrastructure for more than a year, sources told The Wall Street Journal. In the fall of 2023, he had warned telecommunications and technology executives in a secret White House meeting seeking big tech's help in protecting American lives and infrastructure from hackers. Since then, there have been at least nine U.S. telecom companies hacked, according to Deputy National Security Advisor for Cybersecurity Ann Neuberger. Trump is certainly... inheriting a ton of challenges. And then you also see so many different things that this Biden White House is trying to roadblocks marbles to put in front of Donald Trump as he's going to be taking office. And it's it's really it's talking with someone this weekend regarding the Biden administration. In many ways, it looks like incompetence. On the other hand, if in fact maybe they're doing exactly what they wanted to do and it wasn't incompetence. And so we are in a very dangerous situation right now here in America. And we've got to really roll up our sleeves and we've got to fix this. A couple of other things. Today is Epiphany. And it is it's a time from a Christian standpoint, it's a time of revelation where Jesus revealed himself to the Israelites and the Gentiles. And it's represented by the wise men. And so today is Epiphany, which follows the 12 days of Christmastide. And Christmastide begins on Christmas Day, December 25th, and runs through the new year until today, Epiphany. And it's these 12 days that are leading up to Epiphany, which mark the birth of Jesus. And and then Christmas Eve from the four Sundays before Christmas Eve, that is Advent. And so we've gone through Advent. We've gone through Christmas tide. Today is Epiphany. And so I thought that was super interesting as well. Wanted to make sure that we kind of stay on top of all those things as well. The show comes to you because of our sponsors, and I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. This industry has been under attack by the media, certainly in academia. just legislative from a regulatory standpoint. And what is really under attack is our affordable, abundant, reliable, and efficient energy sources. And that is what actually allows us to control our own personal climate. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not... have to force people to do it. I'm pleased to have on the line with me Rob Nadelson. He is an expert on the Constitution. He's written the book, The Original Constitution, what it actually said and meant. He was a constitutional law professor for many years. He is with the Independence Institute as well. And he's written an important piece, The Electoral College in Context. And we thought this was an excellent day to talk about this. January 6th. Welcome, Rob Nadelson.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's great to be with you, and yes, it is a great day to talk about it because this is the day that Congress certifies the results from the Electoral College.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that even though there's a storm that's, I guess, hitting the Midwest and the East Coast, my understanding is the show will go on today and that this is going to happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, it'll go on. And I don't think we'll see any street troubles that we saw four years ago.
SPEAKER 16 :
At least I hope not. I hope not. The Electoral College is, I think, misunderstood by many Americans. And this piece that you've written is really informative. So where do you want to start with this, Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think that I'll start at the end in saying that we have a complicated presidential electoral system. And the electoral college is only one component of that. There actually are four separate stages. First, the people vote for electors. Then the selected electors, the people who are elected by the people, vote for president and vice president. That occurs in December. And then the third step occurs today with the counting of the ballots by a joint session of Congress. And then finally, I'm sorry, I seem to have skipped over something there, didn't I? There's the vote of the people themselves for electors. There's the vote. by the electors themselves. There's the vote, excuse me, the certification of the joint session of Congress. And then there's a fourth step that we haven't seen since 1824, but which kind of looms over the entire process for reasons I can explain. And that is a potential of a runoff election for president in the House of Representatives and for vice president in the Senate. But I think the place to start next would be actually at the Constitutional Convention to explain what the problem was that induced the founders to set up this system.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. And so what exactly was that, Rob?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the immediate problem was the founders were creating a republic, okay, not a monarchy. And They also wanted a unified executive. That is to say, they wanted one person to be the president rather than a council. I think we've seen during the Biden administration some of the dysfunction that can occur when the guy at the top is not fully functional and you're really being operated by a shadowy council or junta. They wanted one person at the top to be responsible. However, there had almost never been a republic like that. Republics, especially democratic republics, tended to have plural executives. That is, if they had... Like in the Roman Republic, they would have two consuls. In the Republic of Bern, one of the Swiss cantons, there was a council of 27. So they were kind of mixing and matching. How do we create a unified executive... When unified executives traditionally had only been kings, but how do we create one for a republic? And then once they decided to do that, they asked the question, well, how do we elect this guy? And – People tend to simplify. This is one of the points I made in the article. People tend to simplify reasons for the Electoral College. They'll say, well, this assures that a few cities don't dominate the country or a few states don't dominate presidential elections. It was far more complicated than that. James Wilson, one of the leading delegates who represented Pennsylvania, said this was the toughest problem the framers of the Constitution had to face. And so they had to balance multiple factors. And I think it would be a good idea, Kim, if we go over these factors so people have a concept for how complicated this decision was.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. And how long did it take for them to hash this out, Rob Nielsen?
SPEAKER 12 :
This went over actually a period of months. I mean they worked on other things too, right? But they would talk about it. They would put it down. They submitted it to a committee. They would discuss it again, just trying to work this through because, again, they're not balancing just two factors, maybe popularity versus concentration of popularity like a lot of people think. They were balancing about nine of them. And they wanted to come up with the best possible process that took all of this into account. So maybe it would be a good idea to go through some of those if we have time.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, let's definitely do that. And Rob, what I find interesting is that they sat down and they really tried to look at the long-term consequences of what their decisions would be. I think that is missing a lot now by those that are in elected office at the local, the county, the state, and the national level. And I think that is missing quite often.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, let me take that observation and use one example, okay? If you have a straight popular vote system where a plurality of the people elect the president, as is proposed by the National Popular Vote Compact, which the legislature of Colorado foolishly adopted in 2019, you would have a system whereby somebody could be elected with 36% of the vote. or 25% of the vote. And this is not a hypothesis. This actually happens in the seven countries, all third world countries that have direct popular vote elections. And so a presidential candidate could win with a relatively small part of the vote. It might be concentrated in one region of the country, and that could lead to breakup of the country itself. Again, if you look at the popular vote in states that follow that system, like Mexico, you'll see that the north votes one way and the center votes one way and the south votes one way and the winner, not this past election, but in many elections, the winner wins with 36%. And that is a recipe for split up. There has been one time when the Electoral College failed to accomplish its mission in of assuring that the winner was widely popular across many regions of the country. And that one time when the Electoral College failed was in 1860, when Abe Lincoln, and I'm saying he's one of my favorite presidents, so I'm not criticizing Abe, but Abe Lincoln won the election with only 39% of the popular vote, and it was concentrated in the North and the West. What happened? The country split up. Fortunately, that's been the only failure in that regard of the Electoral College in the 51 elections we've had. But that shows you the danger of simply electing a president by a plurality. The Electoral College, two of the factors that the founders thought was so important was, number one, you have to make sure that whoever is elected is widely popular. I mean, not somebody who gets... You know, 23% of the vote, like the president of the Philippines did a few years ago using a strict plurality system. It's got to be somebody who's widely popular. It may not be the most popular person in the country, but he's got to have support of, let's say, over 40% of the people, like Woodrow Wilson and Bill Clinton did in their elections, or Donald Trump in his first election. So you've got to have this wide popularity. And secondly, the popularity cannot be sectional. It's got to be spread across the country. If you look at the very few elections, only about 8% of our elections where the popular vote winner did not win the electoral college, it was because the popular vote winner was a sectional candidate who rolled up large majorities in isolated parts of the country but was not widely popular across the country. A good example of that was Grover Cleveland in 1888. And another example of that was Hillary Clinton in 2016. Even though each candidate very narrowly won the popular vote, they did it by piling up majorities in isolated portions of the country. And that is something that the The Electoral College is designed to prevent somebody who does that from winning because of the need for wide acceptability across all parts of the country and the need to avoid sexual breakup. So those are only two of the factors that the founders had to consider in putting together this complicated presidential election system.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so let's keep that as a cliffhanger. You said that there's nine different factors that they were considering. And so let's go to break. When we come back, we'll continue the discussion with Rob Nadelson regarding his piece, The Electoral College in Context. And you can find this at the Independence Institute. It's been published there. A very, very interesting piece. And these are really important discussions. We have them because of our sponsors. And one of those is Karen Levine.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values. It's located in Pueblo, Colorado on the beautiful Riverwalk. And they do several things. One, the Portraits of Valor of our Medal of Honor recipients, or many of our Medal of Honor recipients, is really inspiring. We can use a little inspiration these days. And so be sure and check out their website to get all their information. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Rob Nadelson. He is the author of the book, The Original Constitution, What It Actually Said and Meant. He has been a constitutional law professor. Some of his writings have been cited by courts all the way up to the Supreme Court. So he is an expert on all this. We're talking about the Electoral College and this piece that was published November 5th, 2024 at the Independence Institute, the Electoral College in Context. We're talking about the factors that the founders considered as they were coming up with the way to elect the president. So you said there's nine factors. What's the next one, Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, again, for those who may have just tuned in, the point of the article is that discussions of the Electoral College tend to be oversimplified. We tend to look at the Electoral College in isolation when it's really one of four separate steps in a very complicated presidential election system. And we also tend to just concentrate on one or two factors when the founders had to consider, as you just said, about nine of them. And we talked about two of them. One is the need for any winning candidate to have wide support across the entire country, not just in particular regions, and wide support generally, a high level generally. The next factor was the issue of competence. If the founders – were trying to establish a unitary executive, that is to say, an executive branch with one person at the top, they had to devise a system that would heighten the chances that the chief executive would be competent. One of the problems that they had seen in monarchies, especially hereditary monarchies, is that someone would become king who was totally unequipped for the job. So it's critical to develop a process that had a high probability of producing somebody who could do the job. And one key to doing this is to assure that at least some steps in this four-step process occur at the state level, not at the federal level. So we vote for our presidential electors at the state level, and then the presidential electors in turn vote not in some central location. The electoral college never comes together in any one location. The presidential electors vote in their own state capitals. So the 10 Colorado electors vote in Denver. They don't vote in Washington, D.C., The idea of keeping this a state-based process is partly to assure that candidates from that state are well-known. And that also people who are favorite sons from the state, who are outstanding leaders of the state, have some chance of winning in presidential elections. That it's not all national figures that get elected. And when you think about it, we do, in fact, often elect state figures, state governors, for example. One just died, Jimmy Carter. The process generally has been very successful in turning out competent chief executives. We may not like what the president does. We may loathe what the president does. But by and large, the people have had. The possession of the executive office had been competent individuals. There have been a few exceptions, and I would argue that the current incumbent is a tragic exception. But by and large, we've done a lot better than a lot of other governments have done in producing presidents who have the ability to do the job.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, Rob, a question came in on the text line and regarding competency, and that is Biden says now that Democrats have publicly and publicly acknowledged that Biden has dementia. And when he took office in 2020, how is any of this stuff, any of these executive orders that are actually probably being pushed through by those controlling him? How are these legal?
SPEAKER 12 :
And I think that's a really good question. It's a question, but it's not what I'm addressing today, really. I mean, the short answer is they are legal. The courts are going to determine them legal. President Biden has not been judicially declared incompetent. We just know we have a very sad situation. We had one before, by the way, the last year of Woodrow Wilson's term. He had suffered a stroke and was rendered incompetent. But remember, I'm not dealing with exceptions here. I'm dealing with the overall record. The overall record of producing competent chief executives is far better than in many other governments. Related to that is the belief among the founders that the executive had to be independent. In other words, he had to be free to make his own decisions, not dependent like the prime minister of Britain on parliament, okay? It had to be an independent executive branch. That meant that certain types of election were out. Like early on, the framers considered, well, maybe the president should be elected by Congress because Congress will know who's competent. They'll know who's good. And so he should be elected by Congress. One of the problems with that is that if Congress elects the president, the president then becomes a creature of Congress unless you give the president only one term and he doesn't fear for reelection. And so the initial plan was, oh, gee, you know, well, let's give him a seven-year term. But that creates problems with the democratic ideal. You want to be able to people to rotate their chief executives more than that. You don't want them stuck for seven years with a bad chief executive. And so that meant that determination by Congress was out. It was also a proposal of choosing the president by having an election among the state governors. Same problem. That could render the president dependent upon the states. So the ultimate system that they developed, which was one in which there was an election by a temporary body, that is to say the electoral college, the electors vote and then they disband and that's the end. And you don't have a situation where the president is dependent upon some standing council and afraid to make decisions that might displease them. So you see how this is beginning to shape up. You've got a system that, number one, assures that the successful candidate is very popular. Number two, that his popularity extends throughout the country. Number three, creates a high probability that he's competent. And number four, assures that the president is independent of other branches of government. And the current system is designed to accomplish all of those. But those are only four of the factors. There are even more later on.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so let's go to – well, I think you'll probably address this, but how are these electors selected?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that's an interesting question. The Constitution says – and this is an example of how it's a state-based, decentralized process – And to address it, let me mention a fifth factor. And the fifth factor is avoiding what the founders would have called cabal corruption, avoiding a situation where a few people in Washington, D.C., come together and decide to be president. So that's the fifth factor. And the way the founders did that is making this a state-based process. So what the Constitution says is, is that the state legislatures will decide how each state's electors are chosen. Each state gets a number of electors equal to the total number of representatives and senators. So Colorado has eight representatives, two senators, we get 10 electors. But how they're chosen is up to the state legislature. Early on in the republic, State legislatures experimented with different ways of choosing electors. Some of the state legislatures simply chose the electors themselves. In those days, that was pretty democratic because state legislatures tended to serve one-year terms or even less, and they were elected in very small districts. In other places, they just handed the job over to the people. They said, well, whoever you choose, your slate of electors will go on to choose the president. Some, like Massachusetts, chose hybrid systems. But at the founding, the framers and other leading founders predicted that probably ultimately all the states would turn the job over to the people. And that is what all the states have done. In every state, the popular election held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday decides who's going to be the electors from that state. In theory, state legislature could take back the task itself, and under certain circumstances, it might be a good idea to do that, emergency circumstances. But generally speaking, the people elect the electors in every single state according to somewhat varying formulae.
SPEAKER 16 :
But I don't ever recall voting for the elector, the person. How are they selected here in Colorado?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, they're selected by parties that put up slates, right? So a party will put up a slate of 10 electors. And so when you – as I recall my Colorado ballot, it says I'm voting for electors for president but doesn't identify their name. In some states, they don't even say that. They just put the name of the presidential candidate. And in other states, they actually put the names of the electors. So that, again, will vary state by state. The other advantage of this, remember that the first factor is assuring wide popularity. Since the people vote on electors, this gives the people a kind of direct role in the process that they wouldn't have, for example, if the president were chosen by Congress.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK, so but so, for example, did the Republican Party, though, the actual people that will that are electors here in Colorado?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes. Since the Republican Party. Yeah. Yeah. OK. They will be chosen by the Republican Party. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK, let's see. Let's go ahead and get to the sixth factor. Let's let's unpack that one.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Well, I mentioned that one of the things that they wanted to avoid was cabal, you know, the smoke-filled room that decides who the president's going to be. But, you know, the presidential electoral system may have saved us from a president by cabal. Kamala Harris, for example, was chosen by a small group of kingmakers. And fortunately, our presidential election system rejected a candidate chosen that way. Closely related to that is the sixth factor, and that is foreign influence. We don't even think about this today, or very rarely think about it, except in the Russia collusion hoax. But the founders recognized there was a real danger of genuine foreign manipulation in our elections today. unless they developed a system to prevent it. So having a system whereby the people vote in their respective states and then the electors vote in their respective states, that makes it extremely difficult for some agent from France to bribe all the electors to try to get the person that he wants chosen president. You know, back when the When state legislatures still chose U.S. senators, one of the problems they had was bribery. Most of the state legislatures are not terribly large bodies, and it was possible by putting well-placed bribes to get a favored candidate elected U.S. senator. That's not possible under the U.S. electoral system because the people as a whole – and I realize the people can be influenced and bribed in a sense, but not nearly as easily. But the people as a whole choose electors, and then the electoral college, which is a large body, goes on to choose the president, at least the provisional presidential candidate. And so – And so this prevents foreign influence. Again, we don't even really think about it in most elections because the system has been so successful in preventing it.
SPEAKER 16 :
So the question, though, is we continue to see reports that China is influential in some of these elections. What would you say to that, Rob Nielsen?
SPEAKER 12 :
It's possible that China is trying. The point is that our current system of presidential system is for elections, it just makes it very, very difficult for a foreign power to have a significant influence. And I don't know of any election, the entire 51 that held, in which a foreign power has a significant influence.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, fascinating. And it's so interesting that they were so intelligent and so forward-thinking.
SPEAKER 12 :
They were intelligent. They were intelligent. They also were extremely diligent. They're talking about the framers here of the Constitution. They worked very, very hard. They also had had extremely valuable experience. I mean, these were not people like Chuck Schumer, who became 26 or whatever and has never done anything else. These are people who had participated in a wide range of spheres of life. And they also were very conscientious. about studying how other Republican guys had worked. John Adams was in France at the time, but he put together an encyclopedia of Republican governments throughout history. The first volume of that three-volume encyclopedia circulated at the Constitutional Convention. So they could study that and see what the government of the different Swiss cantons was like, and what the government of Poland was like, and what the government of Rome had been like. And so James Madison, who was, of course, at the convention, put together a great deal of it on ancient republics. One of the complicating factors, Kim, that the founders had to deal with, though, which I have not mentioned, is that setting up was not a republic. In other words, it was not going to be a single government like the government of Rome was, at least in name. It was going to be a federation of states. And that meant that that compounded the difficulty. So that meant that they had to consider a seventh factor, the states into the process. We let them participate. OK, we're going to do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
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Back to the Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity as we look at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. The text line is 720-650-647. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation. Make a contribution. Help them as they are raising the money for the remodel of the official Marine Memorial, which is located right here in Colorado. You can see their plans by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We are talking with Rob Nadelson. He is the author of the book, The Original Constitution, What It Actually Said and Meant. He's an expert on the Constitution. He had been a constitutional law professor up in Montana, and many of his books, writings have been cited by different courts all the way up to the Supreme Court. So, Rob Nadelson, we're talking about the framers, the things that they were concerned about. So the next thing is they wanted to try to figure out how to include the states in this process of selecting the president.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Again, for those who might have just tuned in, I've been reviewing the Electoral College in the context The point that the reasons for this system are far more complicated than opponents of the Electoral College claim or that even many advocates of the Electoral College claim. We've been going through factors that the founders considered. And the latest was the idea that the states, as part of a federal system, needed to participate in the process and to give them a buy-in, a stake in the process, so they didn't break away. Another factor is a complement to that, which is we also have to give Congress a buy-in of the process. Congress has to have a role so that Congress feels included as well. At the state level, we've seen that electors are elected at the state level, that electors vote for president in their state capitals. But then Congress plays a role, and that's what's going to happen today of Congress. actually certifies the electoral vote that's come in from the states. Another role, too, and this is critically important. Initial factors I mentioned was the need to assure wide popularity, high levels of popularity across the country. May not be the most popular, had to have somebody want to bear plurality in the electoral college, but did not get a majority. in the electoral college, so that a person carried 10 states, let's say, and that was enough. That was more than any other candidate, but it was still only 10 states. If a candidate does not get a majority in the electoral college, then you have a runoff election. That runoff election occurs in the House of Representatives for the president. There's a requirement that two-thirds of the states be represented. that the states vote by state delegation with each state getting one vote, so all of Colorado's eight representatives would cast one vote for Colorado. And then it requires a majority in that runoff to win. There's a similar runoff for the vice president in the Senate, where the winning candidate has to get a majority of the Senate to win. Now, fortunately, No winner has failed to get a majority in the Electoral College since 1824. But the prospect, the mere prospect that if you don't get a majority in the Electoral College, you're going to have to go to the House of Representatives and win there, that tends to discourage candidates who only have regional pockets of support. And it tends to assure that People who do run for president are people who are widely popular. So you see this runoff mechanism serving two purposes. It's a way of involving potentially in the process, but it's also a way of assuring that if the winner to get a majority in the electoral college, well, that's not going to be enough. And the person is going to have to win Congress as well.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, and so that's the nine working with as they were.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, there's one other, Kim, I just mentioned, and it overlaps in the others. And that is assuring what the political scientists call legitimacy. That is assuring the public acceptance of the results. When we have a process that involves the states, it involves the federal government, it involves the people, it assures widespread popularity. It protects against foreign influence. It protects against conspiracies or cabals. And so we have a process like that. That leads to a general acceptance. of the winning candidate. It's broken down a little bit recently with the growth of the hard left in America, just as it broke down before the Civil War. But by and large, I'll try in four years, rather than taking up arms and beginning a war.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, we have one minute left. This has been so informative, Rob Nadelson. How would you like to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, those who would like to see the article, it's at the Independence Institute website. That's institute.org. Independence Institute is all one word. Also, of course, on Amazon or barnesandnoble.com, you can pick up my book. the original Constitution, what it actually said meant. Also, at the Independence Institute website are all my scholarly articles. So if you're really a constitutional wonk, you can investigate all kinds of things there, because there's a lot on that website now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's a great body of work, and this is a really important piece. I would highly recommend the election or the electoral certified that it would be good for people to check this out. The Electoral College in Context at the Independence Institute dot org so that you can talk with your friends and your family about this. It's important that we understand that. Rob Nadelson, I so appreciate you going through this with us. Thank you.
SPEAKER 12 :
I really appreciate the opportunity. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 16 :
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Yeah, our framers were very, very wise. One of our listeners, Mary, said that our framers truly were time travelers. And she's right because they studied history. And that's one of the reasons why I've incorporated this history into the show, which we talk about, number one, is that we need to realize it's not just us right now, just so self-focused, that there were those before us and those that we have a responsibility for in the future. And so that's why we do all this. So check out the website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. And the show is live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast. 1 to 2 in the afternoon, the second hour, 10 to 11 in the evening. That's on all KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And we search for truth and clarity on these issues by looking at these different issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the legislature here in Colorado will convene on Wednesday. And it'll be fasten your seatbelts as far as we'll have to watch this legislation. One of the best ways to do that is to join the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And that website is, let's see, coloradotaxpayer.org. And it's just $25 a year. So basically for $2.08 a month, you are going to receive hours of volunteer time of our volunteers who have gone through and watched legislation and watching out for you, the taxpayer, property rights, school choice, TABOR, we would really appreciate your support. And you will get the email that we send out to the legislators and the governor each week regarding legislation that we take a position on. It is one of the ways that you can be very, very informed. And so I want to say thank you to this team, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, and Mary Jansen. And we will have our board meeting next Monday. And very pleased that Dave Evans and Corey Onizorg have agreed to come onto the board. We'll have to vote to make that official, but we're very excited about that. Our word of the day is proselyte, and it is spelled, let me get it here for you, P-R-O-S-E-L-Y-T-E. And it could be a new convert to a doctrine or religion. Number two, a new convert, especially to some religion or religious sect or to some particular opinion system or party. And the challenge is to use that in a sentence today. And there are those that I have talked with that have really become, I would say, proselytes of the American idea today. as they have understood and watched what has happened under the old Biden-Harris administration and what's the decisions that have really been made that have put us in a very dangerous position. And so we have new proselytes to this whole American idea. And again, your challenge is to use that in a sentence. And our quote of the day is from James Monroe. He was born in 1758. He died July 4, 1831. I find that so interesting that it was on Independence Day. He's a founding father. He was our fifth president, and he was the last founding father to serve as president. And he said this, If it was wise, manly, and patriotic for us to establish a free government, it is equally wise to attend to the necessary means of its preservation. And that's where we come in, my friends. We are made for this time now. to make sure that we pass on this free government, this freedom to our next generation. That's why today is important. Today, the Electoral College results are to be certified by a joint session of Congress, July 6th. And let's see if... Well, let's see. Friday, Mike Johnson was elected for his second term as Speaker of the House in Douglas County. John Carson was selected to fill the vacancy of Senate District 30. That seat mentioned this in the first hour. The Biden White House is now admitting that China can close down our ports and our power grid. And then a couple of other things. The 12 days of Christmas are December 25th through January 5th. And January 6th is Epiphany. That is today. And Yvonne said that this is the Three Magi King's Day, which is huge in Spain and Latin America as the Three Magi leave gifts for children in their shoes. And so try to stay informed on our Christian calendar as well. These are important discussions that we have, and I'm blessed to work with amazing people, and I know each and every one of my sponsors personally. And I'm talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. And granted, it's January, Roger, but hail season is right around the corner and Colorado is one of the hail capitals of the world.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom is something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. Very pleased to have on the line with me, Rebecca Lavrenz. She is known as the praying grandma, and she was in Washington, D.C., January 6th, 2021. And she's had quite a story of what happened. She'd gone to, she felt a calling that she should go to Washington, D.C. to pray for our country. And Rebecca Lavrenz, welcome to the show.
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Well, thank you, Kim. I'm so glad that you invited me. It's an honor to be on your show.
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Thank you. Well, it's very timely. You were in Washington, D.C. four years ago, and you've told your story on the show before. But for those that have not heard it, let's start at the beginning. You decided to go to Washington, D.C. You got in your car, drove across the country. And so set this up for us, Rebecca.
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Okay. Well, I had really no intention of going to the rally other than my son a few days before asked if I had thought about it and I had planned. He says, well, I think you need to pray about it. So I did. And I felt like God just put it on my heart that it was a, I was like called to go to pray. And so I fasted and prayed, drove the 25 hours cause I wouldn't fly because I would not wear a mask, got to Washington to see on the night of the 25th. And, um, After being tired driving all that day, I went to where I was staying. I was staying at where my daughters worked in D.C., and so she had a room about several blocks from the Capitol. So I stayed there that night, got up in the morning, and just felt a real... Peace in my heart and thankfulness and gratitude for our country. And I just felt I needed to stand up. I wasn't angry other than I was upset that nobody was listening to us regarding the election. So I walked over there that day. Did not feel led to go to the Ellipse. I ended up being on the east side of the Capitol, which is across from the Supreme Court. And lots of people there that were just walking around very peaceful. Seemed like they were, you know, just in a really... patriotic, what should I say, and just... very honest appearing, you know what I'm saying? I guess I'm trying to search for the right words right now, but I mean, they were very peaceful and they loved our country. You could tell that the way they were dressed, there was no violence that I saw at that point at all. And I just saw that people were there to just stand up and really exercise our first amendment rights. So I knew I was there to pray, but also to stand up for our first amendment, which says that we have a right to address the government for redress of grievances and And that's what I felt I was there for. And so I went there, just was praying quietly by myself, talked to a few people. Then after I got there, like about 9.30 or 10, I guess it was. And then after being there a little while, I think it was about 11.30, I looked to the left of my – and there was a platform where people were worshiping, singing songs, and I saw that they were – There were some chairs over there. I said, I thought, I'll just go over there, walk over there and see what's going on. Well, I didn't get quite to the grassy area. It's called the Egg. If you're at the Capitol, you know anything about the Capitol. I got there. And before I got even on the grassy area, the Spirit of God, God's presence just hit me like, just like I couldn't even stand up. It was so strong. I fell down. just sat on the ground because I couldn't even hardly stand up. It was so heavy on me, and I just started weeping, and I didn't know what I was praying, but it lasted for about 10 minutes, and then it lifted, and then I walked over, and something came over me that I realized later that this is what I was praying, was that I was praying for our country, but also praying the covenant, and that we have with God for our country. And that's what I felt led to pray at that platform. There are people praying at the bottom of the platform. I asked if I could use the microphone, and I just prayed the 1620 Mayflower Compact, which is considered a covenant, which says that this country would be a country that would give glory to God and advance the Christian faith. And that's all I just really prayed. And I felt like I did what God had been stirring in my heart during that time of prayer or weeping, crying for my country, that that's what was important on God's heart. And that's the way I've kind of lived my life. Whatever is important on God's heart, I sought to know God so I could do what he wanted me to do. So after that was over, I walked back to where I was standing right in front of the barricades, right in front of the Columbus doors on the east side. And I just felt like God had really positioned me there. So I was standing there, a bunch of people. A gentleman had a speaker where he was broadcasting President Trump's speech, so I didn't have to walk over there anyway. And so I heard a lot of it. And then there were people that were just singing patriotic songs. We were shouting, not yelling, but just saying things like, You know, patriotic songs, you know, this is our house. We, you know, things like that. Just very calm. It wasn't disturbing at all. And then there were some people that were, you know, not happy with what they were hearing that day. Vice President Pence was not going to certify or was going to certify the votes, and we thought that we should be heard. And, of course, there were barricades, and I didn't push anything down, but I felt like God was saying in my heart that if those Um, barricades come down that he wanted me and the doors open to the, to the Capitol building that I was supposed to carry his presence in. And I thought, okay, if that's what you're saying, I was kind of weighing it in my heart and praying about it. And then after a little bit, they did come down. I walked up to the Capitol with everybody else. There were quite a few of us. Obviously, everybody's probably seen those videos. Walked up, stood on one of the platforms beside the front there on those doors, and I just felt a stirring in my heart that if they opened, I would go in. After a little bit, around 2.30 or so, they did open. I went in with a bunch of people, was in the Capitol building for about 10 minutes, did not touch anything, stayed within the barricades, did not talk to anybody. I Other than I did look at and talk briefly, I guess, to the police officer, which I barely remembered, but it was on the video footage. And nobody ever told me to leave. I just felt when I got in the building that. again, I felt this strong presence of God, and I just felt so strongly that I was standing for our country, and standing, I felt in my thoughts, I got this thought, I will not let my country go down to the ideologies of Marxism and socialism, not on my watch. I saw the, in my mind's eye, I saw the picture of my three youngest grandchildren, who were seven, five, and three at the time, and I knew that I was there just to carry God's presence in. I walked around for a And then they turned around and they said that we're going to leave the building because there's the congressmen have already left. So there's no point in us going any further, which made sense because that's what we as a body, I felt not having really talked to a lot of any people near me. But that's what we were doing, standing up for our First Amendment rights. And so we walked out. And I thought that was the end of it. I thought everything was over. My daughter called me later and said, Mom, do you know that you could probably be arrested for going in the building? And I said, no, I really didn't think I would. And so I did pray about it. I felt God said, no, you there on basically an assignment, ambassador assignment from the kingdom of heaven to carry out his will for our country. And so I didn't really think anything more about it until I did get home and I saw that people were being charged and arrested. And I thought, well, that wouldn't happen to me because I didn't do anything violent. I didn't push the barriers over or anything like that. And so I was very surprised when. Several months later, I got a knock on the door. So that's my first part of the story, Kim.
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Okay. Well, and just a couple of questions. Do you remember how the barricades came down when you were there? Do you recall what happened?
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Well, that was a big, long thing during my trial. Like the prosecution said I was part of pushing them over, but I didn't even touch the barriers. I don't know for sure how they came down. I believe that the government actually did take them away. I can't, you know, that's, yeah, it's really a debate because I really don't. They had enough force and they had a badge. If they were well-equipped, they could have stopped us, in my opinion. That's why I believe it was an entrapment, and they were part of it. And, I mean, there was so much confusion around the whole situation when that all happened. And, you know, the video footage does say there was so much confusion, but I really don't think that we actually did push them over.
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Okay, so that's the first question. What about the doors opening? Do you recall how the doors opened?
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No, I really don't know that either, because where I was standing, there was a crowd of people, and I'm not 6'4", or anything like that, I'm 5'4", and I couldn't see about how that actually opened. There have been video footage at my trial, or there was a testimony where somebody on that side had talked to a police officer, and actually fist-bumped him when they got the doors open, and so... I don't know what exactly happened. I can't testify to that or say how they opened. I really don't know, Kim. Okay.
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But you did not actively push any barrier over. The doors opened. You walked in. You were in the Capitol for 10 minutes. I would like to make the point that the Capitol is supposed to be known as the people's house. Right. Right. And that's exactly right, Kim. And when you were in the Capitol, did you see any of the people that you were with, any violence or anything while you were in the Capitol for those 10 minutes?
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No, I did not see any violence. In fact, I mean, the things when I was in the rotunda, I did have. There were just people that were just walking around, looking around and wanting to make our way towards where the congressmen were. But I did not see any violence at all. I really didn't. The prosecution tries to tell me that I did, but they're not seeing through my eyes. They're seeing the whole picture with a video camera. With a video camera that's in the room, but I didn't. I had to see through my eyes, and I did not see. In fact, I did hear someone in the back room say, don't do any damage to the building. And I really believe the intention of the people that were around me was just to be peaceful. There was no... You know, we are we're not insurrectionists. We weren't trying to overthrow the government or anything like that. We just wanted to be heard. And as citizens of the United States of America, and if we know the Constitution, we have a right to that. And exactly like you said, this is our house and we should have a right to be in there. And I believe I believe personally at that time, Kim, in my opinion. what I believed in my heart when I was there that day was, Oh, they're, they do are, you know, somebody in that who has authority is what I thought is opening the doors for us because they understand that we have a right to be there. And that's what I thought in my, you know, whether it was naivety or whatever, it was what I believed in my heart that because I didn't think we had the power to overthrow the, the, the police or the authorities that were there, they were, stood there. They were going backwards when we were going for them. But it wasn't because we were being forceful. And I want to just remind you that I was on the east side of the Capitol versus the... There was some violence on that side. It was more to one side of me. It wasn't right in front of me or anything like that that I could see. So... It was a lot different than on the other, on the west side.
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On the other side. Yeah, on the other side, for sure. I'm talking with Rebecca LaVren. She's known as the praying grandma. She had decided to drive across the country 25 hours, got to Washington, D.C. on the 5th, went to the Capitol, was outside on January 6th. And we're talking about her story. And we will continue the discussion on this when we come back. The show comes to you because of our sponsors. And a sponsor that is a great protein source for your diet and tastes really good is Lavaca Meat Company.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And you can see the plans that Paula Sarles and her team have been working on to remodel and refurbish the Marine Memorial. It was dedicated in 1977. The official memorial is right here in Colorado. We need to make sure that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our country. and for our liberty. And one way to do that is to support the USMC Memorial Foundation. I'm talking with Rebecca Lovren. She is known as the praying grandma and she drove to Washington DC so that she could pray for our country on January 6th, 2021. And she did end up spending 10 minutes in the Capitol And that changed her life because a few months later she got a knock on the door. So what happened after that, Rebecca?
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Well, I got a knock on the door. It was around April 20th, around something around there. I was in the kitchen baking a cake for my son for his birthday. His family was going to come over that night, and I thought, who was at my door? I live out in the country. I saw someone at the door. It was a man and a woman, and they said, we're with the FBI today. investigate you for your involvement on January 6th. And the first thing that came out of my mouth was, I have a mess in my kitchen. I'm baking cake. Can you come back another day? And they actually said, okay. And that is very much contrary to what a lot of J6 people that have been arrested and charged have done. But I did get investigated by them a couple of weeks later. They came over and they said that you're We will look at all the information, and then we'll get back to you. Well, I didn't hear anything from them until about the middle of August or something like that, and they said, you probably are going to be arrested and charged with these four federal misdemeanors, and you'd be taken up to Denver. And so I was anticipating that to happen relatively soon, and then I didn't hear anything for almost a year and a half. And it wasn't until December 19th of – 2022, that I did have to go up to Denver, turn myself in, and was sat in a prison cell for about three hours while they waited to arraign me before the judge that day. And then I ended up having to did an attorney and I knew in my heart right away through having a relationship with God and praying about the whole thing that I was never to take a plea because I knew I was standing up for something much bigger than what was being done on the outside because of, my purpose of being there and why I felt like God told me to go into that building. And because it was for a bigger purpose for our country, I knew that I could never take a plea. So I didn't take a plea, found some really great attorneys that were able to defend me. And I remember when I first interviewed them, they said, John Pierce was my law firm that defended me. John Pierce, Roger Roots, and their great paralegal, Emily Lambert. When they interviewed me, I told them that I just could not take a plea and I needed somebody who would really stand up with me. And they said, if you don't stand up, with this um for what you believe then you will not be able to look in yourself in the mirror later on and i knew that i found the right attorney and they said president trump's a fighter and it sounds like you are so we will fight for you and they said my defense was my intent for go why i went there and um ended up going to trial uh in march of this last year, so March 2024. I went through a six-day trial. My attorney said it probably would only take three or four, but because A lot of what the circumstances and what happened during the trial and because I took the witness stand, it ended up going actually six days. And my attorney just said, if anybody can win in a D.C. trial, it would be you because there was no violence, even on all the footage that the Capitol posted. police had and everything that the prosecution had, you could not see anything where I had done any violence. And so they said, you have a chance. But because of the way things are in the D.C. courts, they are very biased, I believe. And because of some things that the judge had said to the jury that I could not use my First Amendment rights at the capital there was really no other choice I think if I was on the jury and the judge told me that I'd have to go with that too so after the end of the closing remarks on the jury or on the jury trial they went to deliberation and the jury actually deliberated for 26 or 25 hours 26 hours and before they came up with a verdict and I My attorneys have also said if the deliberation goes longer than an hour or two, somebody is in that jury fighting for you. Because every other trial that they've had and any of the other ones, no one has ever been gone more than a few hours for deliberation. And like I said, mine took 26 hours. But they did end up convicting me of guilt on all four misdemeanors and I really felt that I would be nice to be declared not guilty, but when I went through the whole trial and saw how everything went, how we were not able to use some of our testimony, that would have totally shown and proven, in my opinion, my not guilty status. I think I saw that if they would have said not guilty to me, then the American people would see that the system, the justice system was fair, and it really wasn't fair. And so I had lots of people praying for me, and I just felt like if this trial, if this jury convicts me, then... Then then this is something that God wants to amplify my voice. And immediately after they sentenced me, I knew that that's what God was going to do. So I just told God, I said, if they convicted me and guilt in all four counts and then said my sentencing would be in 120 days, approximately from when the guilt started. the verdict was, I just told God, if I will go on any interview, and go wherever you want me to go to tell my story, because I want people to wake up and see that our country is not is in trouble that we could lose the very country that we have liberty and freedom and stand for if we don't, you don't hear this message. And because of Being an older woman in my 70s now, when people see what I'm like and hear my story, it does wake them up because I did not do any violence there. That's where I met. That was part of the end of the story, and I'll let you ask me whatever you want. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, first of all, the judge instructed the jury that you could not exercise your First Amendment rights. That seems unconstitutional to me. What on earth was his basis, or he or she, their basis for those instructions?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, the prosecution has said that there is an area, a restricted area around the Capitol, a perimeter. And throughout the trial, they would show this video. They would show pictures of it and imagine, you know, and outlined in red where this whole area was off limits to where you could actually go. you know, protest, you know, peacefully or whatever, where you couldn't. And they produced some sign, which I never saw, and they tried to prove that we should have seen that sign, and that's why we had no right to stand there. However, there have been precedents before that. There's a judge that my attorneys have told me in the case, it's called the Bynum case, Judge Freeman gave an opinion on that, that And said that we do have a right to the Constitution to speak in the Capitol. And it's just as strange, but that's what he instructed them to because of that no trespass or perimeter. What have I said? I'm making up in that area. There can be no free speech in that area. Which does seem which is very unconstitutional. And by the way, that is why I'm appealing my case. I'm appealing my case because of that very thing that the judge said. And he said it very, very openly and clearly. And my my attorneys and myself as well. When that was said, we were all very much livid inside because, you know, we as American people have a right to be at that place to peacefully protest and exercise our First Amendment rights. So, yes, that was very disturbing, Kim.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so you then are convicted on these four misdemeanors. So what happens with that? You're not in jail or prison right now, so what's happening in your life right now?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, well, I was, after the guilty verdict, I had a period, like you said, of about 120 days, and they scheduled my sentencing for the 12th of August. And in that time, I ended up traveling, speaking. Many, many different people had me on interviews and shows, and I spoke at different events and just shared my story. And During that time, probation was investigating me to see what my history. I'd never had any criminal record of any sort, had a few traffic speeding tickets, but that's about it. And so there was never any criminal activity in my life. And then when I got to the sentencing, or prior to the sentencing, the prosecution wrote up a 34-page memo, and they recommended that I be sentenced to 10 months in prison, that I... And that I'd be on community service and all this other stuff. But they said the reason they wanted this, because I've been one of the loudest voices out there for January 6th, defending that we were not, you know, being... They just said that I was one of a lot of voices defending what happened at January 6th for the rest of us that were there to protest, you know, the fraudulent election. And they didn't like that. So they recommend that to the judge. When I got to the sentencing, they produced some other things that they said I was. it doesn't matter exactly what they said, but they ended up, the judge ended up saying, you know, I don't think I got to testify at the, before the judge, before I was sentenced. So they said, your honor, I respect your position, but I do, do honor a higher judge who is God. And at one point, every knee will bow to him. And then he said, when he gave my sentence, he said, I will not, I don't think, Putting you in prison will do you any good. So I'm going to sentence you to 12 months of probation, six months house arrest, and a six-month ban from the Internet. And in addition to that, they knew that I was going to appeal my case, so they took whatever funds I had raised, and they fined me with a $103,000 fine, which has been, my attorneys have said, is the largest misdemeanor fine in U.S. history. And so those are the things that we are appealing, the fine as well as the First Amendment rights. that they said I didn't have. And right now I'm sitting with an ankle monitor on.
SPEAKER 16 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there's four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. And the Center honors our Medal of Honor recipients with the Portraits of Valor of over 160. of portraits of men that when danger presented itself they took action to protect those around them and we can take such heart from them and so get more information go to americanvaluecenter.org that's americanvaluecenter.org i'm talking with rebecca lavren she's known as the praying grandma she um went to washington dc on was there on january 6 2021 Did enter the Capitol for 10 minutes, was ultimately convicted of four misdemeanors, and she's now on house arrest. So, Rebecca, what does house arrest look like? Can you leave the house? Can you go to the grocery store? What does this look like exactly?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I have a monitor and I can only leave. My probation has given me four hours on Wednesday afternoon where I can get out and do my errands. And that's about it. I can go off my, I live on five acres, but I can't. Go off my porch. Basically, I have to stay within my house, except because I have a mailbox that's off the property or off the ways from my porch. And if you have some chickens that I take care of, they gave me an hour twice a day where I can get out and take care of things on my property, which was nice. So I get to go for a walk outside. during that time and then if I need a medical appointment or something like that chiropractor that kind of thing I can get permission to do that but I have to just leave for that and then come home so it hasn't been really really hard for me because I really have felt that this is supposed to be a time for a rest and and doing some other things anyway so I've used it as a good time rather than being a feeling like I'm victimized But I feel very, very thankful that I wasn't put in prison because so many others were, even with just misdemeanors. I have another friend that had to go serve five months for the same charges that I was charged with and acted not any different than me. So I'm very thankful that I didn't have to have any time in prison.
SPEAKER 16 :
But you can't leave to go to church or anything like that right now?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I can if I want to. I had been part of a church that's online, and because I'm banned from the Internet, I can't do that. So I really didn't. They said I could find another option, but because I couldn't do that, I've just been spending time with God myself at home. I have people that I talk to over the phone and things like that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so this is a couple of questions that people are texting in. One, it says, people who love God and country have been arrested, but people that hate our country, such as the BLM, Black Lives Matter, and they destroyed communities. Many of them have walked free, and in fact, one of the founders of Black Lives Matter bought... million dollar mansions and so there is this real question about what justice looks like in our country right now so thank you on that and certainly we do need to really ask these questions about these things another listener asked did anyone get arrested regarding the protests for the Kavanaugh hearings I don't know the answer to that Rebecca do you happen to know I don't believe they did
SPEAKER 17 :
I don't know, but I don't believe they did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I don't either. Okay. Okay, this is from another listener. It says, Thank you, Rebecca, who is standing up with courage to fight the injustices of this lawfare. God continue to bless her and those who are also fighting this injustice. So that's from one of our listeners, Rebecca.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thank you. Yeah, I get so many people that are responding to my story, and it just moves my heart because I know they love God and our country. And that's what our country is made of, people that love God and our country. And that's what I'm standing up for. I've always said that it's not about me. It's about we, the people, and that's why I'm doing this. It's not anything for my glory or anything, but it's for God's glory. And that's why I'm fighting this appeal. I'm standing up. If President Trump pardons me, I may have to deny it, and I would willingly deny it because I want to go all the way with my appeal so that justice and these unjust judgments would be turned around so there's not this precedent that is already in place because of these unjust judgments. sentences and convictions of people that were there to just, because they loved our country and were standing up for truth, you know, and I'm very strong in my convictions of standing up for our country and the covenant that we have with God, that this would be a godly country, and we don't see that, and I think that's what's happened, Kim, is when you remove God, like a just not talk about God or have God in our country, well, then you have a godless nation and then it's destroyed. That's one thing I learned from my parents, that when you take God out, then you will the country will be destroyed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, when you take God out of the equation, there is something that will come in to fill that void. And what we've seen is this secularism and really this march towards Marxism and communism here in our country. And so many people are waking up. I remember talking with a young person last January 6th, And he said to me, he said that he realized that this whole comment about an insurrection, one of our listeners has said that we should remember January 6th as a patriotic event, not an insurrection, but it's being painted as an insurrection and it's being repainted in the mainstream media. at this particular point in time, but this young person said, I knew that we were not being told the truth when I saw the video of the horned guy, you know, the guy with the horns on his head, walking into the inner chambers with the Capitol Hill police walking behind him. And that has stuck with me as, yeah, that seems to make a lot of sense, Rebecca.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, yes. And the truth has to be known because that's where the enemy will come in. And I think we are at a day when deception is so very rampant and we all can be deceived if we don't know the truth. And that's the most important thing, I think, is that we get the truth out exactly what you're doing on your show, Kim. And I am so proud of what you're doing to get the message out because people need to know the truth. And that's one thing that I totally agree with what you just shared because it's This is a total, it was an entrapment. It was something that wanted to make us look like we are the evil ones when, you know, we are standing for what is truth and right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I know that you feel this responsibility. You mentioned your grandchildren, and that's something about the founders. George Washington didn't have any biological children, but yet he put it all on the line for posterity, for the next generation to have liberty. And that's been entrusted to us. And so you are standing strong, and I appreciate it. We've got one minute left. What's the final message you'd like to leave with our listeners, Rebecca LaFrenz?
SPEAKER 17 :
There's a scripture in Proverbs 28, 3 that says... that evil men do not understand justice, but those who crave and seek the Lord understand it fully. And that would be my message to whoever's listening is spend the time to really seek God. And that's how we're going to know what right and truth is. Without God, you won't understand it. So put God back in your life and make him your number one priority. I have a website called Restoring Godly Culture. If you want to go to that website, I have a daily newsletter that I put out. I'm working on a book, and if you want to get my email, just put your name in there, and you can find out more about what I'm doing and my story.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Again, that's Rebecca LaVrenze. Thank you so much. I really do appreciate it. And all of us should put you in our daily prayers. So thank you. And our quote for the end of the show is from James Monroe, our fifth president. He said, there's a price tag on human liberty. That price is the willingness to assume the responsibilities of being free men. Payment of this price is a personal matter with each of us. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, we are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America, and make sure that we are saying our daily prayers for our country. So we'll talk to you tomorrow.
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In this compelling episode, retired Colonel Bill Rutledge takes us back to the War of 1812 and the Battle of New Orleans. Discover how Andrew Jackson's strategic brilliance and local alliances with figures like pirate Jean Lafitte led to a startling American victory against the seasoned British forces. This narrative not only highlights military strategies but also explores the cultural dynamics of early 19th-century America.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and our other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's veteran stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
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And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out the website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. And the show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans to Normandy, France, for the 72nd anniversary of the D-Day landings. And returned home realizing that we need to know the stories of our veterans, of our military, of our history. Hence, America's Veterans Stories was born. I am so thrilled to have on the line with me Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force. He's 95 years young, and he has traveled the world. And he is one of the most intellectually curious people that I have ever met. And he shares so much of what he knows with me, with you. And and he'll come up with some different suggestions. For example, last year, right before the Heisman Trophy was awarded in early December, he said, Kim, we should do a show about John Heisman. And he was a remarkable man. So we did. And people have said they so enjoyed that. And so he's had different subjects that he said, you know, this might be good for a show. And the most recent one is the Battle of 1812. And either I wasn't paying attention in history class or I wasn't being taught this. But he said that Andrew Jackson was absolutely pivotal regarding our American history. So we decided during Christmas week we were doing special long version shows for the Kim Munson show. So we did part one of the Battle of 1812, and that was broadcast on December 26th. And now we're going to do part two with Colonel Bill Rutledge. Colonel Rutledge, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it is great to have you, and we are recording this and we'll broadcast this weekend. But for those that may not have heard the interview on December 26th, could you give us a bit of a recap on what we talked about?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes. One of the reasons that you hadn't heard much about the battle, nor had I, was that When we were in high school and college and we studied about the War of 1812, we talked about some of the incidents about how they came and burned the Capitol and the White House in Washington and how we had a battle for Baltimore. And Francis Scott Key was a captive of the British aboard ship, and he wrote the Star-Spangled Banner the next day. based upon what he'd observed. So we heard things like that, and then we heard that the treaty with England to end the war had actually happened on Christmas Eve in Ghent, Belgium, in 1814, and therefore that the Battle of New Orleans was really irrelevant because it didn't happen until 1815. But as I started learning more about it, I realized that we'd been misinformed because it was only people who were negotiating who signed on Christmas Eve in Ghent. But the peace treaty had not been approved by Parliament or by our Senate. And so consequently, the British were continuing in their pursuit of getting control of the whole Mississippi Valley by force. conquering the forces in New Orleans, in occupying New Orleans. So we, like most Americans who love American history, were never exposed to the details. I became very interested in it because of a pure coincidence. When I was a young lieutenant, I was on a military court-martial quite often, and I met a young lieutenant who was a JAG officer, and he had finished law school and was serving two years in the Air Force. And he came into the courtroom and introduced himself. And I asked him who he was, and he said, my name is John Lafitte. Well, I knew enough about American history that John Lafitte was in charge. He was a head man for the pirates. who were in the area of New Orleans. And so that made me get curious. And I started reading more about Jean Lafitte. But then it made me realize the big issue was a battle, and we had never read much about it. So I became very, very interested in it and started going to the libraries. And I found this one book. It's called The Battle of New Orleans. And it's written by a gentleman called Robert R-E-M-I-N-I, Romania, I presume. And it is exceptional. It tells so much about what transpired. And last week we talked about the preface up until the time of the battle. So I'd like to start with the arrival of Jackson in New Orleans and then as the British started arriving also. so we can see the transition. Now, Jackson arrived in New Orleans on or about the 1st of December, 1814. He had learned through some brief intelligence that the British were assembling a large force in Jamaica, and from every indication he had had, that they were probably going to go into New Orleans so they could gain control of the whole Mississippi Valley, and perhaps acquire a lot more of the land they had lost in the Revolutionary War. So this is sort of what was going on. Now, the British actually landed south of New Orleans on or about the 16th of December, Jackson didn't know of their presence because it was many miles away, and it was on the other side of a swamp and a lake, and there was nobody living down there. So it wasn't until the 23rd that one of the people who had lived on one of the plantations south of New Orleans, he had been captured by the British, and he escaped. He actually jumped out of a second-story window and started running because he wanted to get to Jackson and let him know what happened. By some miracle, he was able to get through the bush and get up the peninsula. It took him many hours, but he finally got to Jackson sort of midday on the 23rd and said, the British are coming up. the peninsula, they're only maybe 15 miles at the most south of us, and Jackson immediately took action. And this is what's so different about Jackson. He decided to attack, and his purpose was to attack them as a surprise element to stop their progress so that he could prepare a defense line in preparation for the whole assault that the British were planning.
SPEAKER 08 :
So how many British soldiers were there, Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 02 :
Their whole group, counting the naval assembly down south of there and the ones that were landing, the large number was close to 20,000. But the actual soldiers who had had combat experience and had helped defeat Napoleon in Europe. There were about 4,000. Their estimates were 4,000 to 6,000 were landed and were moving up. Now, that doesn't mean that these were all fighters. Some of those were support people. But the people who were going to come forward on their main attack numbered somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000.
SPEAKER 08 :
But these were soldiers that had, as you said, they had fought Napoleon, they'd been victorious. I mean, they had a lot of battle experience, didn't they?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, they had, and they were accustomed to fighting the protocol of a battle in Europe where they would fight with a procedure. And Jackson and the people that he had were countrymen who lived out in the woods in Tennessee and Kentucky and west of the Appalachians. And they were individual hunters, but they were very good shots. And another thing that happened to enhance Jackson's force was— the presence of Jean Lafitte and his pirates. Now, we call them pirates, but they actually were commissioned by some foreign country to go out and capture ships and cargo. They weren't out for the regular traditional capture of ships and treasury and things, as we think of pirates. Actually, Lafitte had been approached by the British in August of 1814, and they wanted to get him and some of the Indian tribes in that area to be allies with the British when they made their land attack. Lafitte, his heritage, of course, was French, But he felt American, and he thought over the proposal that the British made, which was very, it could have been very great for him and his pirates. They would have gotten a fortune. But he put them off for several weeks until the British finally realized that he was not going to assist them. But when Jackson got there, Lafitte went directly to Jackson and told him, I've got enough ammunition to cover 30,000 soldiers. Now this is a staggering amount of ammunition and weapons. And he said, furthermore, my gun crews are the most experienced and probably the best shots in this part of the world. Jackson at first did not want to take their assistance, but the mayor and the governor finally persuaded him that it would be a wise thing to do because Lafitte was dependable and he could produce what he said. And Jackson, as he reviewed his supplies, he realized he was short on ammunition, he was short on Cannon balls and other things would go in. He even could use a few more cannon. So he acquiesced and said, all right, we'll do this. That was one of the best decisions. in American military history.
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So let's stop right there, Colonel Rutledge, and go to break here in just a moment. We're going to continue the discussion regarding the Battle of New Orleans. This show comes to you because of great sponsors. One of those is Hooters Restaurants, and they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. It's a very interesting story, how I got to know them. It's a story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, those PBIs. But a great place to get together to watch all the playoff games, and they do have specials for lunch Monday through Friday, and Wednesday is their Wings Day special. So, again, that is Hooters Restaurants. We will be right back with Colonel Bill Rutledge.
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. And on the line with me is Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force. He is 95 years young. And as I mentioned in the first segment, he is one of the most intellectually curious people that I have ever met in my life. He's traveled the world, so interested in people and their stories. And he is sharing that with me, with you. And we're talking about the Battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812. And Colonel Rutledge, you were talking about Jean Lafitte. And I do find it interesting that Lafitte, even though he was offered a tremendous amount of money by the British, He didn't take it because you said that he felt American. I find that such an important point that people need to understand.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, it was difficult to understand anyway because the role of the pirates or privateers, as they call themselves, was to enhance their group. But he also... He didn't like the British. He wasn't as bad and as strong in his feelings as Andrew Jackson was. Jackson hated the British, period, because of his experiences during the American Revolution when he was a young man. But I think I need to start moving the calendar forward. Jackson arrived in New Orleans in early December. And he found that he had just a conglomerate of interests, of cultures, of languages. There was French, there was Spanish, there was English, as far as languages spoken and cultures. There were many, many hundreds of freed slaves who had their own citizenship. There were, of course... thousands of slaves in the Mississippi Delta area. So he decided the only way he could control anything was martial law. So he established martial law on or about the 15th of December. And it's interesting that coincidentally, about the time he was doing that, the British were landing on the South Peninsula and nobody knew about it. And So, as I mentioned just a few moments ago, Jackson, when he learned on the 23rd that the British were moving north, he took the initiative of attack. So he took the element of surprise, and when he hit the British, there was another element of war that was affected here, and that is concentrator forces. And the British... They were divided. Their forces, they'd only moved forward maybe a thousand because it was very difficult to get through the swamps and to get on good dry land and to establish their camp from which they would have the base for going forward in the battle. And the actual commander of the army had not yet arrived to put the army together. So it was one of the brigadiers who was there, and so he was in charge of approximately 1,000 troops when Jackson attacked on the 23rd. Now, Jackson's purpose was only to deter them right then so that he could back up and build barricades to protect New Orleans and protect them from the British Army when they made their frontal attack. So on the 23rd after he took the attack, then he and his forces moved back about a mile from the point of engagement. Well, the British also moved back to where their camp was. So there was no action much going on then. But the British commander arrived two days later. On the 25th, the British commander arrived, and he said, He decided he would have to get his forces together, and then he would take a preliminary assault against Jackson's line to find out where his strong points were, where the weak points. So by the 28th, the new commander had been there now for three days. He had assembled his forces, and he was going to do probing along Jackson's defensive lines. In the interim, Jackson had been taking all of his troops and any volunteers he could get for the city to go out and dig a huge ditch that went many hundreds of yards from the riverbank all the way over to the swamp. And as he dug the ditch, then they would throw all the mud up and make a barricade that ended up being as high as eight feet high and as thick as they could make it with all of that mud. And this was going to be like a fortress wall, and this was going to be his first line of defense against a frontal attack. Because he was not sure about whether they could hold, he went back another mile closer to New Orleans, had built a second barrier. And behind the second barrier, then he would hold his reserves. So these were all preparations that were transpiring from the 23rd until the 28th. On the 28th, the British made their probe. So they sent out some skirmishers, and they checked all along the lines. to try to find out where his cans were concentrated, how high the walls were, and whether or not they could be flanked over in the swampy area. They knew they couldn't go around the river because Jackson had built his barricade all the way to the riverbank. But over in the swampy area, there was a chance that they could, flank and turn the corner there and get behind the American lines. So this was all at preparation. So the 28th, they came out, and now they had all their forces, but they just sent people out in smaller groups to test everything. Once they had done that, then they backed up, and they waited, and they were preparing for their big frontal attack. And Jackson, meanwhile, had another several days. So from the 28th, while they're preparing, the British commander then decided on New Year's Day that he would do an attack not with his infantry, but he would use his artillery, his cannons, to test out the defensive walls, and also to see where Jackson's artillery batteries were located and see if he could destroy them. So this was the next action that actually occurred, and it was on New Year's Day, 1815. First thing in the morning, the British started shooting. And they had all their cannons going. And after maybe an hour or so, the Americans started counter with their own artillery. So this lasted for a number of hours, from early after sunrise in the morning until afternoon in the early afternoon. There was cannon fire on both sides. And their targets primarily were... on the part of the British to test the walls but also to try to do damage to Jackson's artillery at the end of the day when they looked it over it turned out that Jackson's artillery was better than the British because most of the cannon crews were pirates and they had had more experience plus Jackson had knowing the terrain better, had built wooden platforms under where his cannons were to support them on the ground, which was very low and very marshy. And the British, in some cases, had not done so. But the key thing was that the gunners and their skill were such that even the British were shocked. because as they look after action, they found that several of their batteries had been either destroyed completely or damaged, and they wanted to relocate some of them. And damage to the Americans was almost none because of the skill of the artillery. Now, one of the very important factors, too, was that Jackson had personally located every single one, and he had eight batteries stretching from the Mississippi all the way east to the swamp. And he looked at every angle, and he also had his batteries at a higher elevation than the British. Not very much higher, but it was higher enough to give him an advantage so that when you're shooting a cannon down, you can be more direct than when you have to shoot uphill and you have to arch your shots. So the first tended to be a standoff, but overall it was a gain on the part of the American capability to use their cannons.
SPEAKER 08 :
Boy, that is absolutely fascinating. And I know that we only have a certain amount of time, but how did Jackson become, how did he know this? Was it experience or just people kind of, they're born with it? How did he know this?
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One of the things that's amazing about Jackson is that he had never before had occasion to concentrate his forces against experienced fighters. He had grown up fighting out of the bush, and he had had a lot of contacts in fights with Indians, all various tribes. He had a huge fight with the Creek Indians in southern Alabama and southern Georgia the summer of 1814. But he'd never engaged in organized arming like that before, and he certainly never concentrated artillery. So it's amazing to think of the ingenuity that he had. I mean, the closest parallel I could find in my reading was Patton in World War II. Patton was a guy who led from the front, who did a great job on motivating his men and, in general, using a lot of his ingenuity in countering and reversing a really bad situation in North Africa in the fall of 1942 and early in 1943. And he was the closest general I could spot compared to Jackson. But Jackson was unique. It was almost one of those God-given situations where he was the right man at the right place at the right time.
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Boy, that is absolutely fascinating. I'm talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force. We're talking about the Battle of New Orleans during the War of 1812. I did want to mention the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. Paula Sarles is the president of the foundation and her team. are working diligently to raise the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial, official Marine Memorial, right here in our state, out in Golden at 6th and Colfax. And a great gift would be to honor your loved one's military service by buying a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service. But you can get all the information and see what they're going to do by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We will be right back with Colonel Bill Rutledge.
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God bless us. Land that I love.
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And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. I am on the edge of my seat regarding the Battle of New Orleans, which was fought during the War of 1812. It was fought early in 1815. So, Colonel Rutledge, you've got this set up for us, the British Empire. We had kind of the first battle, and it was almost a standoff. However, if you really looked at it, it was probably somewhat of a pyrrhic victory for Jackson. So what happens after that?
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Well, first of all, the Battle of New Orleans, like many protracted battles, actually extended over almost a month. Now, the first contact was on the 23rd of December. 1814, followed by the 28th, in which the British probed to try to determine the strength or weaknesses of Jackson's defense. And then on the 1st of January, 1815, extensive battle with cannon on both sides. But the big battle was all getting ready for the 8th of January. Now, it was coordinated because... The commander of the British Army actually was subordinate to an Admiral Cochran, who had been appointed for the whole responsibility for the whole war in America. So they coordinated their actions, and that the Admiral, between the 8th and the 9th, was going to move some of his ships up the Mississippi to try to be in support of and hopefully to break through and go north. They were 80 miles south of New Orleans. Also, on the night of the 7th, the British used some flatboats and moved several battalions of soldiers over the Mississippi after dark and also some artillery to the west side of the river. This was also a strategic position, but it was not the critical one. The critical one was going to be a frontal attack going straight up the peninsula against Jackson's army. So the morning of the 8th was cold and foggy. And if you've ever been in a deep fog down along a river or on the oceans, you'll know that you've seen nothing. You can hardly see 20, 30 feet in front of yourself. So as the sun rose that morning, the American defensive soldiers were behind the barricade. The guns were all manned. They had all anticipated battle on the 8th. And so the thick fog was there and started burning off. And so they'd assembled in... I planned to make an attack around 7, but it was so foggy they couldn't even see. So it was closer to 8 when it started thinning out so you could see the assembled forces. And as the Americans were looking over their barricade, they could see this confrontation of the British soldiers. And it's very much like a picture, a motion picture, where you see thousands of soldiers in their various uniforms, and most of them, of course, were the red coats, which was distinguishing characteristics. But there were also some Scotch soldiers there, Highlanders, who wore kilts as well as red jackets. And then they were all assembled in order, in ranks, and with their rifles attached. Except they had muskets. I shouldn't call them rifles. And they had their bayonets. And with the light and everything shining on them. And then each unit had their flags. So the flags were flying in the breeze. And they had young boys who were playing their drums. And then they also had one young man who was key to a lot of the command, who was a bigler. And so this is what the Americans looked at, and it was massive, and they had never seen anything like it before. The British were very confident that they would be able to go and scale the walls and go in and capture New Orleans. Part of their plan was one whole group, a brigade, no, it was a regiment, It was called the 44th, and it was mostly from Ireland, commanded by a British officer. And they were to run forward with ladders to help scale the walls. So consequently, they were supposed to be in front of one of the three brigades. They didn't get there on time. So the commander kept waiting for him, and then he finally just got nervous and said, we're going to go. So they started their action by rockets. So when the rockets went off, this was to let the unit know it's time to advance. They were advancing in three columns, but then they tended towards converging into one massive column. in the middle of the front. And so as they started forward, they were still looking for the 44th to show up. They finally started moving, but unfortunately, the front lines had already gotten close enough to the Americans that the Americans had been holding back their fire until the British were about 300 yards out. And then all of a sudden, the cannons, all of the American cannons went off, and they were using shrapnel canisters and small cannonballs and things. And it was devastating. And then the American infantry, at the range when they got to 200 yards, that's when they started using their muskets and their rifles. And the British didn't have the rifles. The Americans didn't. especially the ones from Tennessee, had these long rifles that were much more accurate and could fire straighter, and these guys were hunters. So they didn't shoot just into a group. They would aim and shoot for an individual. So the firepower was devastating. Within an hour, really less than an hour, was it clear that The British would not be able to breach the walls. And not only that, it was a killing field. It was devastating. And many of the British troops, in order to survive, they just fell on the ground. They made out like they were wounded. Of course, many were wounded. But the firing was devastating. And within... an hour or so, then the fellows with the rifles, especially, were aiming at the leaders. This is traditional anyhow. So they killed three generals. In other words, each of the brigades, their commanding officers were killed. All the field-grade officers were down. The field-grade officers were majors, lieutenant colonels, and colonels. There was not, after an hour, there was not a single British officer over the rank of captain or lieutenant that was still standing on the field. And the soldiers began to retreat, run just to get out of the firepower. And some of those who were up close to the wall just fell into these trenches, hoping that they'd be safe therein. So within an hour or so, everything had turned. And by two hours, you looked out on the field, and it was nothing but wall-to-wall red. And this wasn't just blood. It was the redcoats. And the casualties were so staggering that, like one of the people said, you could walk around. 100 yards straight out from your barricade and not even put your foot on the ground because there's so many soldiers that you're going to have to step on. Now, many of the people were wounded, but a lot were killed. The after-action report that afternoon, after it was all over, the British had lost between 2,000 and 2,200 killed, wounded, or captured people. Andrew Jackson had lost less than a dozen. It was just an unbelievable, staggering battle. Now, while this was going on, on the west side of the Mississippi, the British had a smaller force than we did, but the British had a better leader, and they broke through the Americans on the west side of the Mississippi. And they actually progressed closer to New Orleans than the main battlefield. What happened was that after the main battle on the east side turned so bad for the British, they were fearful that their people on the west side of the bank would be cut off. So they were told to withdraw. So very good luck for the Americans. The British started drawing back on the west side. And then they went back across the river and joined those people who'd already been badly bashed during the first part of the war. I mean, during the first part of the battle. So that day, the 8th was the key to the whole battle.
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Okay. As a military man, do you think that was a wise decision, even though the British had broken through to pull them back? Or what do you think?
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Well, it was one of those things of necessity. They had to pull them back because if they had been extended too far north, then Jackson could send more of his troops over on the other side and confront them and probably capture them because they were out of position and they didn't have enough backup on the west side. They had a better commander who was so He was very offensive-minded, and actually he was outnumbered. But he united his people, had them put those bayonets on and charged, and they scared the Kentucky militia. The Kentucky soldiers who were over there assembled so badly that they broke and ran. So the Kentucky militia was... Although it was numerically larger, they did not have the fighting experience that the British had that were attacking them. That's why the British made such great advances on the west side of the Mississippi. They were still several miles south of New Orleans, but they were many, many yards further advanced than the barricade on the east side of the Mississippi.
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Okay, let's stop right there. I'm talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge regarding the Battle of New Orleans, which was the main battle was fought on January 8, 1815, and this was during the battle with the British in the War of 1812. I did want to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up in Pueblo, Colorado. Andrew Dix, who's one of those Medal of Honor recipients, and Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker. They decided that they wanted to honor our Medal of Honor recipients. We need to keep these stories alive and then also create educational programs that we will continue to instill in ourselves and our children these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So to get more information, go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And we will be right back with Colonel Bill Rutledge.
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And welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. We're talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, regarding the Battle of New Orleans during the War of 1812 with the British. And it is amazing. I mean, it's staggering that you would say that the casualties were 2,000 to 2,500 for the British and around a dozen for the Americans. I mean, that is absolutely remarkable. So what happens after the shooting stops, Colonel Rutledge?
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Well, on the afternoon of the 8th, there was a general ceasefire. And the ceasefire was so that both sides... could go and get their wounded and take them back for treatment on both sides. When the Americans were so successful, though, that morning, there were many of the Americans that wanted to pursue the British as they retreated. But Jackson very wisely would not let them pursue, period. He did not want to endanger them. on a killing field when they were all protected behind the barricade. But they did have an understanding with the British that they would both go out peacefully, no more firing, and remove their wounded and take them back for treatment. Now, many of the British, actually, who had surrendered or were wounded were so close to the American side that they were taken into New Orleans for treatment and they were treated very well. New Orleans concentrated all of their help and many homes were turned over to be used for like aid stations for British soldiers because we didn't have anybody wounded hardly. So the whole city of New Orleans was almost like a big hospital taking care of British soldiers. So this was a very important part of the overall actions from that day. But they're attacked and blunted. Now, there are a few interesting satellites. It was a tactic in the procedure, and it went not only during that time, all the way up through the Civil War, that most of your drummers and buglers were teenage boys, some of them very young. And there were some cases. as young as 10 years of age. And when the battle had ceased, the firing, the British had a bugler, and he had climbed up a tree, maybe 100 yards or so, from the American defensive position, and he'd been blowing his bugle. So nobody wanted to shoot him, but when all the battle was over, They went out and got him down from the tree and took him into the American sides. And all the Americans were applauding him and commending him for staying on at his battle location throughout all the shooting. And, of course, this is, again, a procedure that was followed with drummer boys. You never consciously would wound one of these really children. So this was one of those side effects. Now, by the late afternoon, everything had been gone back to their own areas. Americans stayed behind their barricades, and the British did. But meanwhile, way south, the British Navy tried to come up the river, and there was a fort that had been built by the French, and it was called Fort St. Louis, and it was 80 miles south, and it was built on the west bank of the Mississippi. It was on some dry, elevated ground, and it was approachable by part of the Mississippi, but the approach area was very shallow. So the British ships that wanted to attack it They couldn't get their guns in close enough. They were over two miles away from the fortress. The fortress had been strengthened. Andrew Jackson, after he got to New Orleans, one of the first things he did was go down there and examine the fort, improve some of the fortification defenses, put more people there, bring more artillery pieces down to make it to a point where that the British could not get by there to go up the river. The British tried by using shallow boats and things, but they weren't capable of getting it done. But they stuck to it and tried for many days. And it turned out that after an additional week of trying, trying to get to the fortress, the British finally gave up. So the Battle of New Orleans actually took almost three weeks, as you extend it back, before the British finally decided, we're not going to make it. It's just not going to happen. So by that time, they'd had time to pull back their wounded, their soldiers, their logistics support, which was terrible. And so many of the British soldiers, they were almost starving. They hadn't had enough food for a long, long time. So they were just so elated, the soldiers, the real fighters, to get out of that area. One of the ironies is that the British were so confident that they were going to capture New Orleans and they were going to destroy it. that actually many of the senior officers' wives had come aboard the ships from England because they were going to New Orleans because they understood that New Orleans was a great shopping area. And not only did they not get there, but most of them lost their husbands in combat.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. What a story. So we've got just a few minutes left. How should we button this up, Colonel Rutledge?
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Well, the important factor was that the treaty that had been signed again on the 24th of December had to be ratified, and it wasn't ratified. So... New Orleans mayor and the governor, after the battle, they wanted Jackson to stop having martial law. And he said, no. He said, I'm not doing that. We're going to control it. Nobody else is going to enter or leave New Orleans without my permission. We still must be prepared for a counterattack at some times by the British. And he said, we will not leave here until I say something in writing And that took almost two months, because what happened, communications were so bad, that the people in the East did not know what had happened in New Orleans for about a month. The Americans on the East Coast were very depressed. Some of the New England states had actually met in Hartford, Connecticut, to consider seriously withdrawing the states to secede from the Union. It was that depressing. And then once the word reached the East Coast, everything changed. The whole country became optimistic. Jackson became a national hero. And then when Jackson finally saw a signed document from the U.S. Senate and by the President, saying that the war is over. Then he said, okay, we will stop having martial law. And then he went back east. He didn't get back there for a couple of months, but he was a national hero, and he deserved it because there was no other leader in that era with his military expertise and self-confidence, to use men with no official military training and defeat the best army in the world. So these are sort of the after effects. And, of course, his great success led to his being so popular, which in turn meant that eventually he became the president for two terms, in the 1820s and 1830s. Boy, I find this just absolutely...
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you know, remarkable. And I see so many parallels between the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. And so not once, but twice, these Americans actually defeated the most powerful force in the world. And I think that we can take a lot of A lot of inspiration from that because as Americans, that DNA runs through our blood as well. So this has just been a great interview, Colonel Rutledge. I so greatly appreciate you sharing this, researching this. Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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My friends, indeed, it is so important to know these stories, and we do stand on the shoulders of giants. So God bless you, and God bless America.
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Spirituality is absolute. At any moment in time, you are either filled with the Holy Spirit or controlled by your sin nature. Your volition decides which controls your life. The Christian life must be lived with the supernatural power God gives you—the filling of the Holy Spirit and God’s Word, the Bible, which is “alive and powerful” (Heb 4:12). Spirituality is not avoiding some pet taboo such as not drinking or not smoking. Spirituality is a relationship with God the Holy Spirit. At the moment of salvation, you were sealed and indwelled by the Holy Spirit. Spirituality occurs when you are filled with the Holy Spirit (no unconfessed sin in your life). “Put on the Lord Jesus Christ (be filled with the Holy Spirit) and make no provision for the flesh to fulfill its lusts” (Rom 13:14). Spirituality is related to the filling of the Holy Spirit. Spiritual maturity is related to the filling of the Holy Spirit and the content of the Word of God in your soul.
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In this episode of Ready Radio, we dive into the essential topic of roof maintenance and insurance with special guest Dave Hart from Roof Savers Colorado. As we approach the New Year, many homeowners are facing changes in their insurance policies, particularly concerning roof coverage. Dave details the shifts in deductibles and the implications for homeowners whose roofs are aging. Whether your roof is ten or fifteen years old, understanding actual cash value versus replacement costs is crucial for managing potential out-of-pocket expenses in case of damage.
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This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now.
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Here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. And it is Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. Fabulous day, December the 20th, as we head down the stretch into Christmas and New Year's. If you are listening to a replay show, thank you, by the way, for that as well. And one thing I want to do today as we sort of get things closed out here, for the year. We've only got a couple of shows left for this year. Actually, one show left for the year is all I wanted to bring Dave Hart on from Roof Savers of Colorado, one of our great sponsors. And Dave, welcome. How are you, sir? I am doing great. How are you guys doing today? We're doing great. And part of why I wanted to have you on was, A, we talk about... some roofing and things like that. But typically, Dave, as we get to a new year, and I've already heard from, you know, different insurance agents on my end on different things that I have going on and so on, it's sort of that time of the year where those things come up. Now, I get it, not everybody renews in January, but a lot of folks will have a renewal here probably in the next, you know, one to three months, Dave. That's kind of how things work typically. So, Along those lines, the one thing you and I talk about quite often that we don't get a chance to talk about as much on air as we probably should is the changes in that end of things as far as house insurance goes.
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100%, yeah. Yeah, so things are definitely changing. I mean, just even a simple example with my own personal policy, we went from a $1,000 deductible to a 2%, so it's now almost $10,000 deductible for wind and hail. And that's happening across the board. Maybe not quite that extreme, but a lot of carriers are definitely the $2,500, $5,000, 1%. So, every carrier is different. And it's to be expected. I mean, we've had so much paid out the last few years due to hail. You know, the interest companies, they're not a non-profit. They're looking at their bottom line and what they pay out. Absolutely. There's that, but then what they're also doing is, you know, you're getting roofs that are 10 years old, 12 years old, maybe 15, again, depending on who the carrier is. And if something were to happen, they're saying, okay, we're going to give you ACV, which stands for actual cash value. Basically, it'd be like taking your car at five years old. They're going to give you what that car is worth and not what you paid for it or what it costs to replace.
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So let me, so in which I'm following you correctly, you take a roof that's, 15 years old you have a life expectancy of let's say 20 years at that point they figure three quarters of the life is gone if it's a you know twenty thousand dollar roof then you may get five grand out of it when it's all said and done not the full 20 am i right correct okay yeah so now you're getting there you have to come up with 10 or 15 000 out of pocket okay to cover your deductible portion plus cover what it costs to replace the roof you know the depreciation that you would normally get that you're not now and so people are like um you know
SPEAKER 03 :
I guess, 10, 10, 15 grand to get my roof replaced now. And it's it's happening quite frequently. All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Really quick along those lines, too, Dave. And again, maybe you can answer this. Maybe you can't. But are I'm guessing if you shop online and someone already know that answer. But when you've got an actual agent, you know, and or a company where you're. renewing, and you may not even talk to the agent, but you just get a renewal. Are they making, I mean, is there like a flyer along with the new statement that says, here's the changes to your policy, or is it just getting changed, and if people aren't paying attention, they're going to miss out on the fact that it did change?
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It's just getting changed. Some companies will send something out, but the vast majority, you'll see the changes on your renewal. I've been telling people, it's very important. Even call your agent now. If your renewal is next month or six months down the road, what's going to happen when I renew? What do things look like? Be prepared for it. Make any necessary adjustments you need to. It's pretty much across the board. For the most part, most carriers... are going at that 15-year-old range, you're fully depreciated. So there's nothing left coming.
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So I need to use a 10-year example, not a 15-year example.
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Yeah, exactly. So that's what's happening. So it's been very challenging for us to be completely open and honest with, okay, you have hail damage, you don't have hail damage, or you have moderate hail damage. And just some of the challenges we're having, we want to be very clear, open, and honest with our clients. But if there's any chance that we can get it replaced affordably now, this is the time to do it. That way, another 10 years before they start, you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, no, and that's, again, partly why I want to have you on as well as, A, I was just talking to Charlie a moment ago about what an absolutely beautiful day it is outside right now. Fact is, you know, with what you do, you have the ability on days like today to literally handle any roofing needs somebody has. I think a lot of folks have this misconception, oh, I can't do anything in the winter months. It's too cold. A day like today, Dave, you can do whatever you want to.
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Oh, man, we've got three treatments scheduled for tomorrow. Me and one of my other guys, we're outside the shop right now painting corner trim for a siding job that we're doing up at Loveland. I mean, this is fantastic.
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Yeah, well, I've always said and tell my boys constantly, if it's not snowing, it needs to be this. So I'm fine, too. This is great. I'd rather have this than anything else because that's just bitter, cold, wind-blowing, and so on. With no snow, it doesn't do anybody any good. Okay, so... On the insurance side, folks need to really look at, pay attention to what's going on. There's a lot of, again, misconceptions because the last thing we want, Dave, is for folks to have some sort of a storm problem. They get damaged. All of a sudden, they call you. You come out, look at it, and realize you have a 10-year-old roof, and your new policy says that that's now prorated, meaning at the end of the day, you're likely to pay for the majority of this replacement. Correct. Yeah, correct.
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It's crazy what's happening. It's unfortunate, but at the end of the day, it comes down to the bottom dollar with the insurance companies. But the other nice thing about it, too, is we also have options. It's not just about replacing. Okay, I want to go with that.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, thank you. You're going exactly in the direction I wanted to head. This is Ready Radio. We try to teach everybody to be prepared for the what-ifs of life. This just isn't end-of-the-world stuff. This is everything daily, Dave, that we go through on a regular basis. And so the question I had for you, for folks that are listening, given the fact of these changes and the now – I think it's always been important, but especially now, the utter importance of making sure that you're maintaining your roof the best you can so you're getting the longest life out of it. What does that mean for most people? In other words, what should they be doing?
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Well, we definitely take a look and see the condition, but we offer that roof rejuvenation treatment that we do. It's a RoofMax product, so we just extend the life of that roof. There's a lot of people. We've actually done a lot this year. We Slightly over doubled the amount of treatments we did this year over last year. And I'll tell you, nationally speaking, this is growing. It works. We've secured more.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's growing because it works, Dave. It's just, as you know, it's a solid. I mean, I've had it done on my roof, family members, and so on. The product works, period.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it works out real well. Because the reality is with what insurance companies are doing, higher deductibles, less coverage. Yeah. People aren't going to be replacing those roofs. They don't have $15,000, $20,000 sitting around to spend on a roof. So, what do we do? We come in for a whole lot less money, get some more life out of the roof, and there's chances that you're not going to get covered. But just because you got some minor hail damage on it doesn't mean we can't get more life out of it. So, it's eliminating the need to call the insurance companies and get them involved. And we could save people a ton of money on it, keep the roofs where they belong on the house. not in a landfill, and just extend that life drastically. I mean, it's fantastic. Like I said, we just secured more territory, so we're growing like crazy. So it's a neat option. We love having the option for our customers. Most roofing companies come out and they go, I'm here to replace your roof. Well, there's a 98% chance we don't have to replace that roof. There you go. If we do this treatment, do some minor maintenance to it, Get at least another five years. In a lot of cases, we're getting 10 to 15 more years.
SPEAKER 09 :
Or longer. Yeah, I was going to say or longer, depending upon the roof. And, folks, again, I'm a big one on this, and Dave knows. In fact, I'm usually the one that is, you know, hey, Dave, it's that time of year. We need our annual inspection done and so on because, Dave, as you know, I mean, just having some commercial properties and so on. It's a big deal to me because it's like your car. The more you keep up on those things and you stay in front of it, the less issues you're going to have on down the road.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And on top of that, there's so many people we come across that we go out and look at a roof and there is an issue. Like, oh, I had no idea. And I'm guilty of that with certain things, too. I'll deal with it when it comes to life. But the reality is, I would say 30% of the roofs that we get on for a quick inspection there's an issue with the roof that we need to take care of pretty quickly, and we're able to do that. So it's neat. I really enjoy extending the life of the roofs.
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Well, Dave, I look at a roof, and we've chatted about this in the past, but for those of you that are listening, we do drive radio tomorrow. We do the car side of it and all of that, and I talk to people, Dave, there when it comes to the paint on the car and things along those lines. I I look at your roof a lot like I look at my vehicle. If I don't have to touch that factory paint and I can leave that on there as long as I possibly can, my feeling is I've got a much better vehicle when it's all said and done than trying to have all of that redone. And I could be wrong, but I feel like the roof on your house isn't much different.
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If you look at it, this is probably a horrible analogy, but it just popped in my head. If you look at it, the roof on your house is much like the shell on a turtle, right? It's covering, it's protecting that turtle. It's protecting the forest of that turtle. Your roof is doing the same thing. That's your first line of defense for most weather ailments that we have. So you want to keep it in good shape.
SPEAKER 09 :
When it comes to – we've talked about this in the past because we had some supply chain issues and so on. Last year, about a year ago or so, we had some issues we were still dealing with. Is all of that gone and done with, or are there still some issues along those lines?
SPEAKER 03 :
For the most part, it's pretty well gone. So a couple things that we're shy on when it gets into the higher-end shingle, like even higher-end than what you have on yours – It might take a little longer to get those, but for the most part, that's gone. They really ramped up the beginning of this last season because they were worried that there was going to be more storms like we had in 2022, I think it was, 2023. And that didn't happen, so they had a lot of overkills. We're pretty well stocked up on stuff. Unfortunately, that didn't affect the pricing of anything. So everything's just still expensive. We still get four or five price increases on materials every season. But we have availability, which is half the battle.
SPEAKER 08 :
Perfect.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, also, I will tell you guys listening that some of you are thinking, man, I not only have some roof stuff I need to get done, but I probably have some gutter things that are an issue, and I can see where I've got some icicles and some things that aren't quite sealed up, and maybe I need a different downspout in an area. Dave, as you know, sometimes when homes are built, they don't really consider all of those different things. And as time goes by, you may want to add an additional downspout in some areas. And those are things you can take care of as well. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we can do the gutters. We're doing siding. Like I said, we're doing an entire house siding job right now up in Loveland. So there's a lot of different things that we do that we can help out with for sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. All right. So again, guys, everybody listening, please just go to ready-radio.com. That's a really easy way if you're driving to actually go to any of my websites, you'll find Dave. So it doesn't even matter which one. It doesn't really matter which website you go to. You're going to find Dave there. You can do it that way. Or you can call Dave directly, 303-710-6916, 303-710-6916. Dave, also, when it comes to these annual inspections, does it matter what time of the year those things get done? I mean, a lot of people, I think, well, I'll either do it spring or fall. But what's wrong with right now?
SPEAKER 03 :
There's nothing wrong with right now. Like I said, we're doing three treatments tomorrow. On the treatment side, if we're 40 degrees and some sunshine and the roof is dry, we're working. You're raring to go. Yeah, and same basic thing on replacements. We've got two scheduled for the week after Christmas. Nice. We can get those done. As long as it's not freezing, we're working.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and for those of you looking kind of long-term, which you guys all know we look at that continually as a business, don't really see anything on the horizon. I think you're in pretty good shape right now as far as all that goes, Dave. So as I always say, get it while you can. Amen. Bring it on. Bring it on. So those of you listening, please, again, as you're doing some things, even, for example, this was the other reminder I had, Dave, is folks will be, you know, they put lights up and they'll be taking those down in the not too distant future. And you may notice some things when you're doing that that maybe you didn't notice putting them up where, hey, there's a little loose shingle here. I've got a bad spot there. I've got this or I've got that. You know, don't delay. Give Dave a call. He'll work that into the schedule and get you all taken care of. And it's as simple as that. Absolutely. It's pretty simple, absolutely. Dave, as always, I appreciate you. Merry Christmas to you and your whole family. And I mean that sincerely. You've been a great partner of ours, and I cannot thank you enough.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I sincerely appreciate the opportunity and being with you guys. And Merry Christmas to you and everybody listening. So it's a good year.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're the man, Dave. We appreciate you. I appreciate it. All right, man. Have a good one. Merry Christmas. And I mean that, guys. If you want a roofer to come out, and now that Dave's gone, I'll even say this more freely because I always feel like I'm embarrassing him at times. But honestly... smartest roofer i've ever met can fix things that i've seen other guys attempt to fix and can't and that's personal experience on my end on the commercial and the residential side you know dave just has that tenacity knowledge and the ability to get things taken care of that frankly you're just not going to find from other roofers and i i have no other way to say it other than that i'm just being straight up honest if you want the best roofer in the area You want the ability to extend the life of your roof, repair your roof, save money when it's all said and done, give Dave a call, 303-710-6916. All right, we're going to come right back. And somebody sent me, Dan, I believe, how to prepare. For a home invasion. Now, we went from the roofing end, which, yes, you need to be prepared and have all that handled with insurance, et cetera. But the home invasion thing, especially now where, you know, it's darker, longer during the day. Granted, we're going to start gaining a little bit of daylight. But we're in that time of the year to where you really have to be prepared when it comes to some of these things. And we'll talk about that as soon as I come back. So don't go anywhere. Ready Radio. It's ready-radio.com is our website. KLZ 560.
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All right, and we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all joining us. And let me get into the how to prepare for a home invasion. Practical tips and tricks. And again, these are some great videos that a great listener, Dan, sends to me on a routine basis. And I watch as many as I possibly can, trying to learn as much. And This particular topic, we've been through before, probably though more so on one of my other programs, not necessarily Ready Radio. I think I've done some of this that we're going to go through. I've talked about a portion of this on Fix It Radio, but not in this particular way, I guess I should say. and i'm going to do my very best to get through this we've got a little bit of well i got a lot of material to cover but we'll try to do the best we can get this in one part bottom line when it comes to preventing and or handling a home invasion hopefully you never have one But you read almost daily – and I belong to a few neighborhood groups, Facebook groups and so on – where you see things happening all the time. People – there was one the other day I watched where somebody broke into the car, got the garage door opener out of the car, was able to open the garage – rummage through the garage. Something must have scared him off because not much was taken from the garage. But at that point, you know, not everybody locks their garage door into the house at night. And at that point, you're very vulnerable from having somebody actually walk in. And this person had no idea this was going on until the next morning. So these things happen. We don't want them to, but they do. So part of what we're going to go through is how to not only prepare for that, but if it does happen, what do you do? I'm going to focus more on the preparation end of it. And if I have to, I'll break this up into two parts. And then if you do encounter somebody that has entered, what do you do? So number one thing is you have to understand the threat. And this one, as I was watching this video and listening, It gave me a few ideas that I hadn't really thought of prior. A couple of points here. So this one, thieves plan things out. That one you kind of know. Thieves aren't stupid. They want to know where are the dark spots in your home on the outside. Where's the most accessibility, front or back? There was a story here not long ago where a lot of high-end homes that backed up to open space and golf courses, they were literally targeting those particular homes coming down on a Friday night and cleaning them out, taking all the high-end stuff with them. They ended up with millions of dollars of stuff when it was all said and done. It was huge. So they do plan things out. They're looking for those entry spots. Where is the easy access? Do you have an old broken-down door, even like a side garage door, where when you look at it, you're just like, yeah, that thing wouldn't take much to crack open or even push through? They're looking at those things. They're eyeballing stuff. Trust me. And keep in mind that... Depending upon where you live, thieves can do everything from drive around in a car, which, by the way, can be somewhat suspicious because people will be looking at that probably more so than anything else. You can take a thief with a jogging suit and some earbuds, and they could be jogging around the neighborhood. And fact of the matter is, who would know the difference? No one. And the way things are even today with technology, they could be videoing a lot of that as they're jogging. Glasses, other devices, and so on, where you don't even know that's what they're doing. It's almost – well, it isn't almost. It is hidden. Nobody even knows what's going on. So they have the ability to check these things out. So they're looking at everything from easy access, as again I said, dark spots, doors, things like that. They're looking also for pets, motion sensors. Do you have a big dog? Are things they can look up and see? Are there motion sensors where in the dark and you move, the light's going to come on? They're always looking for, we talk about this even on drive radio when it comes to how to keep your car from being stolen. Your house is not any different when it comes to being broken into. They're looking for the path of least resistance. If your house is much easier to get into than the neighbor's house, which one do you think they're going to pick? If you don't have a dog and the neighbor has a dog, which one do you think they're going to pick? If you've got a lot of overgrown bushes up by some of your entry doors and the neighbor doesn't, again, which one are they picking? Again, a lot of this is just common sense. And taking a walk around your house would really open your eyes and start looking at, okay, where do I have some areas that I probably ought to tighten up on? And again, every neighborhood, every situation is a little bit different. So point being... Small changes make a huge difference. And bottom line is make your home a harder target for thieves. So make your home a harder target for thieves in multiple ways, which we're going to go through a few more of. This next one, this one was good. And we maybe do this, but maybe not intentionally. And I've done this, but I don't know that I've ever done it intentionally. And that is walk your neighborhood. At different times, picking up on all of the details while you're walking. Where can people hide in other people's yards and homes and so on? Where are those dark properties at? In other words, some of this has to be done at night. You may need to take a walk through your neighborhood at night or early in the morning when it's still dark out. When it's all said and done, whose property looks the most inviting to a thief? Hopefully it's not yours. Again, my point is, and the point of this particular video was, walking around the neighborhood that you currently live in and getting an idea of, you know, are there areas where a thief could hide and nobody would really know they're there and they could even hang out there for a little bit until they know there's no activity in a particular home and, boom, they can strike. Some of you may live next to open space. Some of you might live next to a park. You might live across the street from a park. By the way, those are areas where if it's a park that's got bushes and benches and things like that, those are things that thieves can get in and get behind and hide in and watch what they want to get into house-wise and come right from there to your home or another home that's easy to get into. So bottom line, not only take a look at your own home as you're walking around it, but take a look at the neighborhood. And where are there places that folks could hide, thieves could hide, nefarious individuals, and still you could be a target at the end of the day? And by the way, this is the front and the back. Not just the front. So those of you that have open space behind you or maybe a park behind you or some of you live on a golf course, things like that, really look at how easy and accessible is your backyard as well as the front yard. Some of you, that might be a side yard. Some of you have big walking paths that go up next to your house, your fence, whatever the case. Look at all of those things because that's where you could become more of a target than the house next door to you. All right. There's layers, by the way, which if you think about it, there's layers of defenses that you need to have when it comes to defending your own property. First layer is, we just talked about it, the outer edges. As somebody's coming up to your home, what do they see? Are there yard signs for an alarm? Are there stickers on the windows for an alarm? Again, is there a dog? Are there visible cameras? And by the way, this particular video had a good idea. Whether you have an active alarm or not, just having the sign up is still a deterrent because they don't know if it's active or not. And having a sign of, of course, a reputable company would make them think twice about, am I going to enter this home or the one next door that has no alarm? And believe it or not, we live in a day and age where you would think most people have alarms. Not everybody does. It's still not 100%. So they're also going to look at, as I said earlier, motion sensors. I talked about not neglecting your landscaping. These are the things that they're looking at. We're talking about the first layer. So, you know, do you have bushes right next to the front door that somebody could hide in and boom, pop out and go to work on the front door? This is a good one, and I've read this before but never talked about it much. You might want to even change some of your landscaping. For example, plant some really prickly rose bushes in front of the windows they might be able to access. That is a deterrent in and of itself. Nobody wants to have to pull those things out of their – and by the way, it's a slowdown as well because you're fighting with the bush trying to get done what you need to do. So that's one thing. Plant some thorny bushes, rose bushes or whatever, right next to those entry windows. This is where Dave from Veteran Windows and Doors, not a sponsor today, but he is on my daily show, and he talks about this. I've interviewed him many times, making sure that your entry doors are reinforced, solid, and nobody can break in. And by the way, if you need a reference on that, Dave from Veteran Windows and Doors is somebody that can do all of that. Right now for December, he's got a great special on those as well. So reinforcing those doors and windows. In some cases, this is where also Dave comes into play, you might want to put a storm door on. Storm door is just another added layer of protection from getting into the door behind it. And in some cases, the storm door can be just as strong or stronger than your front door. So look at that end of things and don't forget, because I think a lot of people do, they'll put a really nice front door on, really nice back door, have the ability to even lock it. They might have a patio door and they lock it. They do a really good job of all of that. But yet they forget about the old nasty garage door that goes from the garage to outside. By the way, once they get in the garage, they've either got access to all sorts of other different things, tools and so on. And the door to the kitchen typically is right there as well. So look at all those doors. Make sure that you're all shored up. This is another one that I had never thought of, but it makes a lot of sense. Make coming up to your home noisy. So things like wind chimes they could bump into, bells on doors that open and close, crunchy gravel and things that they might have to walk up to as they come up to the front door. In other words, make it to where they can't just sneak up. unbeknownst to anybody, and voila, they're at the front door. So some of you have sidewalks that go from the driveway all the way to the front door. What can you do to make that a little bit noisier so if somebody's walking up, you know. There's everything from driveway alarms that'll chime on the inside and so on. Think outside the box, and how would you know outside of a doorbell camera and so on if somebody's actually walking up to a front door, side door, back door? And some of the items that we're talking about, by the way, are extremely inexpensive. All of this stuff, by the way, from alarms to cameras to you name it, that is one thing that inflation hasn't hit. It's actually gone the other way. Because like any other technology, the more people use it and the more that gets bought, the cheaper it becomes. So cameras today are way cheaper than they were even 10 years ago, five years ago. So in today's world, by the way, there's no excuse to not have even some minimalistic cameras on your property some way, somehow. The Ring system that is sold through Amazon is about as inexpensive as it gets and frankly, works extremely well. So just a side note. So bottom line, what's your first layer? How is all that working? And as you approach your own house, because what a lot of us do, we're all guilty of this, especially if you park in your garage, you open the garage door, you roll on in, you shut the garage door, and you go into your house from your garage. Most people never enter their house from the actual front door, back door, side door. Even folks that may not be able to park in the garage will typically pull up, open the garage door, head in, close the garage door. And I've seen it. I watch it. So that's the prevalence. most don't go through the front door. So that's the outer layer. Let me do this. Let me take a quick break. We'll come back. I'm going to cover the inner layer and some other things. I think I can get through all of these. I'll do my very best to do that. And all of these, by the way, we put up on our website, ready-radio.com. We'll be right back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, Ready Radio, KLZ 560, thanks for joining us today. Live program on December the 20th. We've gone through the outer end of things when it comes to protecting your home, making it more, you know, burglar-proof. The next one is the interior layer. So for a lot of you, you may think you have this really dialed in, but once again, just like the outside... Take a walk around the inside of the house purposely, not just casually, but purposely. Again, where were those entry points that were the easiest access? How are those all shored up? If somebody does get in, how do you know? Do you have a basic idea? alarm with a chime on it whereby if a door is open the chime goes off and those can get very annoying at times but they can be turned on and off you can turn them off at night you'll turn them off during the day turn them on at night that kind of a thing super easy also do you have on your alarm glass break alarm some of you have huge picture windows that would be very easy for somebody to break and just march on in do you have a glass break alarm on that this one was interesting I don't know too many people that have these, but some of you may, and you may be able to make one of these depending upon the configuration of your house. But do you have a safe room, one of those rooms where if you lock everything up solid, it's really difficult to get in? Could you turn a basement furnace room, something along those lines, into that, putting on heavier door jam and so on, heavier door? Could you make it that safe? locking it from the inside, of course, with a lock that is not penetrable. Look through that and see what works best in case somebody does get in. In other words, you're not home, and the kids are, and they're by themselves. Do they know where to go? We'll talk about that here in a moment as well. But on that safe room end of things, is it stocked with some supplies? Let's say you had to go in there and hang out for a little while. Do you have the ability to do so? This was really key, which I hadn't thought about either. Where's the choke points in your house? In other words, if you're trying to get out and they're trying to get in, where's those narrow spots in your house that become a choke point that would enable somebody to keep you in that particular area and you're not able to escape? Where are those? And can you change things around to get rid of them? This one's key as well. And I know a lot of parents that this is big on, but sometimes just the way the houses are configured, you don't have a choice. Are all the bedrooms on one level or do you have some bedrooms up, some bedrooms down? In some cases, you may have bedrooms in the basement, bedrooms on the main floor, bedrooms upstairs. Where is everybody? And if something were to happen, how is that going to work? Have you thought through and walked through that? A quick tip, which they gave, which is spot on, and some of us that are older don't think about these things, but baby monitors are great for picking up things, especially sound. And they're very sensitive because you want to hear if your baby's got something going on. These baby alarms or monitors, I could usually call them, are not that expensive, by the way, and very easy to use in this particular situation. The bottom line here is if somebody gets inside, how are you buying time? And some houses are big, some houses are small. If they do get in, how is that going to work? Now, I've read, again, going back to the very first segment, talking about some of the news stories you read and so on where there's home invasion break-ins and so on. There are times where I believe that the thieves didn't think anybody was home. But there was. And now you run into a situation where, oh, boy, we're caught. So now what? Some will get scared and just leave. Some won't. You take somebody that maybe has already been caught. Maybe they've already had some charges pressed against them. They may have even done some time. That sort of a thing. Maybe they're on probation right now. They don't want to be caught, and they may do things to not be caught. So, again, you need to buy time for these situations. This is one we talk about quite often. A lot of you have this, but not everybody does. Do you have self-defense items, guns, et cetera? And if you do, do you know how to use them and do the people in your home know how to use them? And do you have only one, or do you have more than one? Where are they stored? Are they easy accessible? For example, are all of your weapons stored back in the back part of the house where you sleep, or do you have them in other places? What if somebody just happened to come in the front door, which has happened? You can use an exact example of something I've read not that long ago. What if it's 5 o'clock at night and somebody walks in? which has happened here in the metro area. Now what? Do you have the ability at that point to fend off would-be intruder when you may be in the living room or your family room and all of what I just mentioned defense-wise is in the bedroom, which might be quite a ways away. So think through some of this. If somebody were to enter in, how are you going to defend yourself? Pepper spray, we've talked about this here in some of the recent episodes. Pepper spray works extremely well. In some cases, it may work as well as a gun, depending upon who you're trying to fend off, and the reason being is it's simple to use. Anybody can use pepper spray. Teach them how to point, shoot, and you're done. So once again, though, in any of these items... You must know how to use them and then be proficient at that. And I said this earlier, but also where do you keep your tools? Because again, where your tools are, those could be used by you in a situation to defend yourself or could be used by the perpetrator as well. So where do you keep those sorts of things and how accessible are those? And again, this goes back to just the whole configuration, you know, floor plan of your home and how they potentially could get in. And the one thing, too, that didn't talk about in the last, the outer layer, which we've talked about many times on Fix-It Radio, and that is your garage door, your automatic garage door. In most cases. I saw a guy the other day that got a call out, locksmith got a call out to open someone's house. They had locked the keys in or didn't have the keys with them. And so rather than worrying about picking the front door lock and so on and so forth, this guy gets out a long wire, takes a little wedge. pushes that up in between the garage door and the sill, sticks his phone up in there, which now he has a camera he can see inside, sticks his wire in, grabs the tether to the door to release it, and boom, he's in in no more than about 30 seconds. That, by the way, is your biggest weak link in your whole defense end of things, and I'm not exaggerating. That single garage, double garage door is one of the easiest things for folks to get into your house with, and most of us don't think anything about it. You just hit the button, come and go. So that's one of those things to really... think through is when it comes to all of this protection stuff, where are these access points? And remember, the garage is going to be one of those that becomes very, very easy for them to get into. John, you're up. Go ahead, sir.
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Hey, you were talking about pepper spray. I like bear spray better because it shoots further.
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Okay.
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And it's a little more powerful than what you can buy. And if you go on Amazon, they sell inert cans of bear spray without the pepper in it, or... that you can use for practicing. Oh, nice. And they recommend that even, you know, we're talking home invasion, but if you're ever going to use bear spray, you should know how to use it. And buying a couple of cans of these and just taking it out and practicing one time would probably be worth it. Great idea. The other thing with that is, and we're talking about, if you have a can of that in the door of your car, And you need to use it. Yeah. But if you get pulled over for another reason, I'm a hiker. It's just my bear spray.
SPEAKER 09 :
I do a lot of outdoor activities, and I have it here on purpose. Okay, fine. Great. By the way, there's nothing illegal about that.
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No. But, you know, there's a lot of people out there, unfortunately, that, you know, don't know how to use certain things. And, you know, I see it on the trail or anywhere else. They got their bear spray in a pouch on the back of their pack.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's not going to work.
SPEAKER 10 :
It ain't going to do you any good if you're hiking down the trail. I know I keep mine either on my belt or in a shoulder pouch.
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Stop, bear.
SPEAKER 10 :
Stop, bear. Yeah. You know what? There's a great video out there of a grizzly bear charging a mirror because it thought it was somebody else. Somebody set up a mirror and some bait. You want to get the crap scared out of you. Watch that.
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Yeah, John, as you know, and I've seen them, they can move a lot faster than you would think. Most people think, oh, they're slow, I can outrun one. Yeah, no, you can't. As long as you can outrun the guy next to you, you'll be okay. But, yeah, you're not outrunning the bear.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and so the other thing, when you were talking about home improvement, a big dog, like I have a livestock guardian dog, will let you know somebody's coming up to the house.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely.
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And then, you know, then you don't have to worry about them invading because, you know, they're coming. And then the only thing you need if they do is a shovel. Yep. Absolutely. Because, you know, where I'm at, it'd be easier to dump the body than to call the cops and go through all the paperwork. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely.
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John, you have a good day. You too, man. Appreciate you, John, very much. Scott Watley just said, make sure you always have the wind right with the bear spray. Yeah, you don't want it coming back on you. So, yeah, Scott, thank you for that. Appreciate it. Dave, you're next. Go ahead.
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Yeah, just to expand on what you were talking about, John, some of the things that I used to teach was telling women specifically, but this would apply to anyone, think outside the box. Anything can be a weapon. Anything. If you're sitting there in your living room, and you're doing a crossword puzzle and somebody breaks in the front door, that pen or that pencil that you have in your hand doing the crossword, now it's a weapon. Now you're defending yourself. A lamp, you know, anything that you'd see, a heavy ashtray, whatever.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Anything would be a weapon.
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People have little, you know, statue figurines and things like that. Dave, anything you could grab could be used.
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And all you even want to do is even just buy yourself some time. You throw a distraction at that person, whoever they are, they're momentarily blinded or they're moving out of the way, they're off balance, and that gives you time to create distance and get to your tools to go to work.
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Dave, it could be something as simple as a heavy picture hanging on the wall that you grab and toss at them.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Anything to slow them down.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Yeah, anything could be used to bludgeon them. Or, hell, even just standing up and screaming like a banshee.
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Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now all of a sudden they realize that this is a house of a lunatic.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't think I want to... Yeah, I'm going to... It goes back to the first things I talked about, Dave. They want easy, and if all of a sudden it doesn't seem so easy, they're going somewhere else.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And, you know, another thing is, like you're talking about, not making yourself a target or your home a target. Simple thing of putting on... Your porch light.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. If the front of your house is lit up with porch lights and they make them so cheap anymore, those solar security lights, you know, you could put four or five of them up. $10 a piece when they're on sale.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, Dave, to your point, boy, with the LEDs and the advancements we've made along those lines, it really is to a point now where, honestly, there's really not any excuse for a homeowner to not have all of this dialed in the way things have become because it's not near as expensive as it used to be to handle this stuff.
SPEAKER 11 :
No. But just one thing I wanted to point out to people, because that's one thing that people always think of, why I need to have a weapon or I need to be licensed for it. No. Anything... within hand's reach that you can wield can become a weapon.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dave, a baseball bat close to the front door would work.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, or you're in the kitchen cooking dinner, and boy, that pan spray that you use to spray it right there in the face with that. That or a frying pan.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, Dave, again, to your point, there's all sorts of things we have usually at our disposal. We just don't think about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. But it's just something simple like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, that's great. I appreciate that, Dave. Thank you very much. And, yeah, Scott Watley, I was laughing a moment ago at the pepper spray, bear spray, but he's correct. Yeah, which way is the wind blowing? Make sure that you've got all that taken care of and handled because, yeah, the last thing you want is some of that coming back at you. And it goes back to John's point a moment ago as well. practice with these things and make sure that you're able to use them so again uh anything you can do to when it comes to that interior layer having the defense items like dave just mentioned a moment ago and we've had you know several people chime in on this don't forget as well you know you may you may not feel like a gun is for you and i get it they're not for everyone Some can do very well with them. I think everybody can, by the way, with some training, but I get it. Not everybody wants to do that. So look at things like we talked about, the bear spray, pepper spray. Also stun guns, tasers. Those are readily available. They're not cheap to get a good one, but same situation. They can be used not only to slow somebody down, but potentially knock somebody down. Now, I will say this, and you've seen video of this. If somebody comes in the front door and they are amped up on meth and they are way out there and they're just totally drug-ridden and they're a fair-sized individual, frankly, you need a good taser to take them down. An average taser may not do it. So you've got to do some research on that, and maybe that's something at a later show in 2025 I could get into and talk about the different tasers that are out there. I am not a taser expert. I'm a gun expert, not a taser expert. So I don't do much along those lines at all. So I'll do a little bit of research on that and see what there is available and so on because I've watched plenty of videos where somebody that's all hyped up police etc you know use that device on that particular individual and it doesn't do a whole lot so just something to think about but you have to do whatever works best for you and again bottom line know how to use all of those things Practice with those things. And once again, when it comes to just your home in general, as Dave said a moment ago, don't be that target. One thing, too, that I'll talk about, I'm going to kind of break this up. We'll do this again in our next live episode. And that is changing your patterns. Some people come home the exact same way, the exact same time every single day. Change your patterns. Can somebody follow you and know where you're going or do you change it up to where they wouldn't know? Even how you enter your home and what you do and some of those things, change it up. Don't get in the habit of just doing the same thing day after day after day because unfortunately when we do, we become a lot more comfortable and lackadaisical when we do that. And again, bottom line, we want everybody to be safe. And I don't want to scare anybody or make anybody think, especially during this holiday first of the year season, you don't want anybody to think that this is going to happen to you tomorrow, but we want to make sure it doesn't. And you read about these things all of the time. There was a situation that happened yesterday in Arvada at a big old tire store where the employee shot the manager several times. They got in a big argument. Folks, we live in a day and age where you just don't know what's going to happen next. And By the way, I don't ever want to be an owner of a business where that happens. I don't think I want to read that in the news. But, yes, that, in fact, did happen. And, you know, what were all the circumstances leading up and so on, I don't know. But my point is there's just people out there that have a screw loose. Sorry, but they do. This particular individual that shot the manager, you don't do those things when you're sane, folks. That's not normal behavior. Unfortunately, and we talk about this a lot during The Daily Show. We are surrounded by a lot of individuals that just aren't normal. I'm sorry to say, but they're not. They do have a screw loose. And we have to be as protective as we possibly can to make sure that we are able to defend ourselves at all times, at all costs. And I think one thing, too, and this is something I was going to go through, and I'll do it on the next episode of this continuation of, is does all of our family know what to do? You know, back to Dave's point a moment ago, does your family know about all those things that are in the kitchen that potentially could be used? Do they know what to do in a particular crisis situation? If we don't talk to our kids and our families and so on, they're not going to know. And we don't tell them so that they can get all freaked out about somebody coming in. No, we educate them so that the more they know, the safer that they are. It's why we do that. It's why you teach your kids how to drive properly. We want them to be safe once they start driving. But yet we don't go through these basic things inside the home. and we should be. So I'll do the second half of this because there's some things along those lines I can get into, and I'll even do a little research on the Taser end of things as well. And in the meantime, guys, please have a very happy holiday. Merry Christmas. We appreciate each and every one of you. Don't forget to go to the website, ready-radio.com, and if you're listening to a replay episode, thank you very much for doing that as well. Again, this has been Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
In this captivating episode, Father Andre takes us on an inspiring journey from the caves of Mount Lebanon to the forefront of defending religious freedom in America. He passionately shares the story of his miraculous escape from persecution and how it has fueled his life's work. As the Founder and President of the Mission of Hope and Mercy, Father Andre reveals the profound truth that love for God and one another is the key to joy and peace in our lives.
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At age 10, Father Andre escaped Christian massacres by living in caves in Mount Lebanon with his family. Today, Father Andre works tirelessly to encourage American leaders to keep God in the public square, defending religious freedom at home and abroad, so that all might live in peace for the glory of God. Founder and President of the Mission of Hope and Mercy, Father Andre has learned the secret to safety, joy, and peace. Love God and one another. Now, let us spend 33 minutes on the Lord's Day, retuning ourselves to the truth of love in the hands of God.
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Praise be the most holy name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Again, Merry Christmas season and Happy New Year to all of our friends, to all of those who in the United States, in Denver area, in Colorado Springs, in all over our state and the United States, in Lebanon and else in the world have celebrated the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. have celebrated the feast day of peace on January 1st, which is a new year for all of us in the world. And also on that day, we celebrated the title of the Virgin Mary as Mother of God, the Theotokos. For many Christians in the world, the importance of heaven and earth coming together, where God communicated to humanity salvation, and the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ through the Immaculate Birth in the virgin womb of the Virgin Mary, who herself as well, being prepared to bear the Son of God, was conceived without original sin, is a very important factor of our faith in Christianity. The Lord has made His salvation known to the whole world. the Lord as Savior in time of persecution. We call him and we tell him, rise up, Lord, and come to our aid. In the book of the prophet Isaiah, chapter 60, from verse 1 to verse 22, we pray about the revelation of God's glory over Jerusalem. Rise up in splendor, O Jerusalem, your light has come. The glory of the Lord shines upon you. It is very obvious that in the Old Testament, there have been so many precedences where God communicated to human beings, connected to holy places, connected namely to a holy city. God also connected to a very special race of humanity, offsprings, Abraham and Sarah. And then from that line of offsprings, the Lord formed for himself a people that he himself shepherds, Israel, the people who walk with God or the people of God. It is very obvious that the Lord made his dwelling amongst his people. Oh, how lovely are you dwelling place, O Lord God of hosts. Of course, my soul and my spirit are yearning to the house of the Lord, our Savior. In the book of the prophet Isaiah, we see that God basically revealed his entire glory over the holy city, Yerushalayim, the city of peace. And Isaiah says, see, darkness covers the earth. and thick clouds cover the peoples. But upon you the Lord shines, and over you appears his glory. Nations shall walk by your light, and kings by your shining radiance. The prophet Isaiah is speaking about the city of Jerusalem being the city which was chosen by God Almighty. where he makes his dwelling amongst the people of the earth, where also the Lord reveals the fullness of his glory. It is very obvious the contrast that we see, according to the prophet Isaiah, when the entire earth is covered with darkness and when the peoples are surrounded and covered with thick clouds. You know, even till today, we speak of a human being having fog over their brains, due sometimes to pain, due sometimes to problems, physical problems or emotional problems or reactions to medication or allergies. You know, we see people, you know, are experiencing cloud almost on their brains. But it's so amazing to see. that in a physical place, over 3,000 years ago, when the Bible was written, the Bible spoke about some sort of revelation that God decides to make from time to time in relationship to a place, in relationship to a mountain like Mount Sinai, in relationship to people like the people of Israel, in relationship to a city like the city of Jerusalem, in relationship to kings that he himself favored. from whom he said his own son will be born, the Messiah will come. And he related to the Virgin Mary, from whom the Messiah came. And then Isaiah the prophet continues and says, raise your eyes and look about. They all gather and come to you. Your sons come from afar. and your daughters in the arms of their nurses. Then you shall be radiant at what you see. Your heart shall throb and overflow, for the riches of the sea shall be emptied out before you. The wealth of nations shall be brought to you. It's amazing to see that when God relates to a place and He shines with His glory, there are consequences, there are effects, there are signs and rewards for God's divine glory. One of which is the eyes to look and see. One of which is that the people will gather, there will be peace. one of which is that people will return home. Sons and daughters who are far away, they will return. So the family will be saved. Some of which as well, nations themselves will come back and the human race will enjoy time of peace. And people won't no longer have to stock their riches. They actually do the opposite thing. They instead of gathering more, assuming more, they start emptying out before the city of God their wealth and their richnesses. And everybody will bring them to the house of the Lord. So the prophet Isaiah continues and says, caravans of camels shall fill you. Drawn the reeds from Midian and the Epah, all from Sheba shall come, bearing gold and frankincense and proclaiming the praises of the Lord. In such a way, the prophet Isaiah is not only telling us that the people will come with riches that are made by human hands, but the goods of the earth will also be brought over to the city of God. And more than this, there will be a worship that will come from all over the world. A presentation, people bearing gold, people bearing frankincense to proclaim the praises of the Lord. So God will be adored, proclaimed and worshiped. And there will be a hymn of praise and there will be a sacrifice of incense being offered to the Lord. Tithing will take place. And then the prophet Isaiah continues, All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered for you. The rams of Nebaioth shall be your sacrifices. They will be acceptable offerings on my altar, and I will enhance the splendor of my house. So amazing, so beautiful to see that one day the entire humanity is worshiping and adoring God. And remember, we're talking about a prophecy from the prophet Isaiah, which was written probably 600 years before the Lord Jesus Christ. And this is chapter 16 from verse 1 to verse 22. But the beauty of these revelations of God's glory over Jerusalem, as predicted by the prophet Isaiah, Regardless of the symbols that they are being used at that time, the prophet is insisting that everyone in the world is invited to be part of being, enjoying God's glory over Jerusalem. So what is really God's glory over Jerusalem is the recognition, the admission that God is its savior, it's its Lord, it's its king. All goodnesses, you know, from material things to social things, to the family unit, to the people of God, to the praise and worship, to the sacrifice, even the animals, even the first fruits of the labor of the man, even whatever blossoms in nature, everything comes to be offered in Jerusalem before the Lord and the Lord will accept it. All the flocks will be gathered to offer sacrifice. It's, of course, we're talking about the sacrifice of animals in this case. But the Lord also says, I will enhance the splendor of my house. So what does it mean really? Can you imagine how the Lord can better enhance the splendor of his house? rather than keep sacrificing animals, for instance, or bringing the human sacrifices like the old days, which was a horrible thing to do. And unfortunately, humanity offered, did offer human sacrifices. The Lord saved everyone. The Holy One of Israel, who has glorified Jerusalem. not only allowed his people to bring gold, silver, frankincense, and rams, and to offer sacrifices, but in fact he saw that all the kings of the earth will rebuild the walls of Jerusalem. Foreigners, settlers, dwellers, the people of the land, everybody, that in my good will I have shown you mercy, the Lord says, though I struck you in my wrath, right? So even though sometimes we as a people of God, sometimes Jerusalem, a city that was destroyed because every time that the people of God stepped away, slipped away from their love and their fidelity and faithfulness to Almighty God, The Lord allowed chastisement, but the Lord was always their savior. And the Lord, though he struck that city with wrath or in his wrath, yet in his good will have shown mercy to Israel. And what better mercy could be more than the birth of a savior? The man of God, the son of God, Jesus Christ, the Savior, who comes to be the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, who comes to be the King who offers himself in sacrifice to redeem all creation, all alike. He comes to tell that in his kingdom, which is a kingdom not of this earth, is a kingdom of peace, is a kingdom of healing, is a kingdom of eternal life. My friends, we are entering into a year that is known to be the Jubilee year. The Jubilee year is a year in which we count 25 years now into the 100 of the 2100. Now we are 2025. 25 years have passed already to be subtracted from the 100. Another 75 years, if you come to think about it, humanity will celebrate the 2,100 year to the birth of the Lord. In 2033, some eight years from now, humanity will celebrate the two thousand and thirty three years or two thousand year anniversary the two thousand year anniversary to the crucifixion the death and the resurrection of our lord and savior jesus christ the lord our god has truly saved us and he stopped all forms of other sacrifices assuming all the sacrifices in himself, offering himself as a priest and victim, as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Yes, this is the key of the 2025 radio shows that I would love to spend with you every Sunday, and I look forward to spending with us together over the radio shows. The Lord has made his salvation known to the whole world. And we have to tell these stories to our children, to our neighbors in America. The Lord as Savior in time of persecution is our Lord and Savior. We do tell him, rise up, Lord, and come to my aid. There is a sermon by Saint Leo the Great, Pope, who lived in the fourth century between the year 400, 450, he was a Pope. He says, the Lord has made his salvation known to the whole world. He speaks about the providence of God, qualifying that the providence of God is actually a loving providence. The providence of God is a caring providence. The providence of God is a main factor that through which we discover how God determines to make decisions. A few weeks back, I received a phone call from a friend of mine, and we were talking early morning time, his time in Colorado, and it was kind of like evening time, my time. And he said, let us pray. And we prayed, him and me. And then he said, Father, I have to drive for about three hours, and then I want to get to a cabin. And then when I come back, I will give you a call. Or when I reach my cabin, I will try to call you if there is basically connection. I said, well, God bless you, and God be with you. We wished each other a Merry Christmas. And then he sat on his way to get to the cabin. And for some reason, halfway, I thought to call him back again. I said, I'll try to talk to him and to chat with him a little bit. And of course, he responded and he said, sorry, I don't have good connection. And really the connection was bad. So, and somehow we succeeded exchanging another greeting. And I said, but be safe and arrive safe and let me know when you arrive. About an hour and a half later, he calls me and he says, Father Andre, I thank God. I thank God. I am safe. I am alive. I am alive. I said, what happened to you? He said, as soon as I walked into my cabin, there was a thief hiding behind the door. And the thief actually got to it and he tried to kill this man. But this man successfully defended himself without hurting anybody and successfully was able to dial the 911 and to contact the police. And the police came and the man was actually saved. My friend was saved. A crime was going to happen the day almost before Christmas. Something horrible, unthinkable. So divine providence, I said, intervened directly. I said, listen, this is the event of the divine providence. God intervened in his loving kindness, and God determined that you need to be with your family. You need to have a good Merry Christmas. Your wife, your company, your children, your extended family, everybody needs you. We, in a mission of hope and mercy, I said, we needed you, and we needed you to stay around. And God listened to the prayers of the faithful. So my friend, the Lord has made his salvation known to us personally. I wonder how many of us can think about the personal stories where in his divine providence, his loving divine providence, you know in your heart, in your mind, in your conscience, that if it wasn't for God intervening at some point, things would have been bad actually. Probably you could have been died by now. So God's divine providence is always a loving providence, it seems. And it seems that St. Leo the Great, the Pope, states, the loving providence of God determined that in the last days, he would aid the people, the world, set on its course to destruction. It's the year 2025. It's a jubilee year. It should be a year where humanity connects back with God, It should be a year where humanity connects back with its conscience, connects back with its values, connects back by making an examination of conscience and refuting what is evil and stop lying and stop the culture of death. Stop civilizations which are being raised based on lies, based on relativism. based on negative energies as a matter of fact. We have work to do. It does seem right every time we think about it that throughout the course of history, a humanity without the interference of God, without the loving providence of God, sets its course to destruction, sets itself on its course to destruction. So God, hopefully the great said, decreed that all nations should be saved in Christ. Coming to think about it, this is the real meaning of Christmas, the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Today, as we celebrate Epiphany, the visits of the Magi, the kings from the east who came following the star of Bethlehem to see where is the king and to pay him homage, to bring him frankincense, myrrh, and gold, anointment, possessions, glory to the new king. Today is also in the east the feast day of the baptism of our Lord. where the Lord at the River Jordan was baptized at the hand of John the Baptist. And John says, This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. So we do see God in his divine providence intervening, being present in our midst. And as I said earlier in the beginning of today's show, the Lord also was present when he came sending his angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary in Nazareth, telling her, Hail, favorite one. The Lord, with his divine grace, fill you. You are filled with the grace of God. And you are to bear a son of God, the Holy One of Israel. So God intervenes, my friends. He does knock at our door and says, if you open to me, I will come and I will make my dwelling amongst you. In the feast of the baptism of our Lord, we see how God the Father in heaven appeared and sounded with his voice. And we see how the son was being baptized in the River Jordan. And we see how John, as he was baptizing the Lord, that in the form of a dove, the Holy Spirit hovered over the sun. And God said, this is my beloved son. This is the revelation. This is the place where the Lord has made his salvation known to the whole world. And the promise that he gave to the prophets and the establishment of the kingdom of Israel and the line of Judah from David, he said, will bring the King, the Savior, the High Prophet, the Priest, the Messiah, the Lord and Savior, the Prince of Peace. And he did it in a fulfillment of time, in a fullness of time, in a fullness of time. He actually brought his only son to be born of the Virgin Mary. So hopefully the great in the fourth century knew that if we study the history of the world, any time we find out that any time humanity decided to slip away from the love, from the divine providence, from the faith in God who is good, in God who gives life, protects life, and God who is merciful, And a God who's gloriously just. A righteous God. A God who is and gives life. A God who fights in a battle against all forms of darkness and against evil. He knew that humanity, once it removes itself away from that God, it means that humanity set on its course to destruction. So God intervenes. And he decides by decreeing that all nations should be saved in Christ. Today, the United States has elected a president and there is a transfer of power and there are incidents happening on the streets and in many states in the United States of America. Let us pray that God in his loving divine providence will protect our people, will protect the validity of the choice of the people who elected in the United States president, who promised to keep God the focus, the culmination, the center, and the heart of our nation. Let us pray for peace in the United States, for peace in the world. My friends, with the remaining time that I still have with you on this Sunday morning, the very first Sunday in the month of January in the year 2025, it's a beautiful date. It's 1-5-2025. 1-5-2025. January 5th, 2025. A beautiful to recognize our five senses, for instance, right? We have five senses. A beautiful to recognize in our life as well that the five days during the week that God gives us to work and the sixth day in which we rest because he rested. And, of course, the seventh day when he rested, if we're looking at it backwardly from Monday through Friday, we work, and then Saturday, the Sabbath day, and then Sunday, the first of the week, it's the day in which we give God, we render him homage, we give him and show him glory. A promise had been made to the holy patriarch Abraham in regard to these nations. God visited Abraham in the Old Testament in the book of Genesis. And he told him he was to have a countless progeny born not from his body, but from the seed of Abraham's faith. His descendants are therefore compared with array of the stars. The father of all nations, Avraham, was to hope not in an earthly progeny, but in a progeny from above. Remember what Jesus tells Nicodemus. What is born from above is the spirit. What is born from above is above. And what is born from the flesh is the flesh. And amen, amen, I say to you, unless a man is born again from the water and the Holy Spirit cannot enter the kingdom of God. In the baptism, the Lord has made his salvation known to the whole world. The Lord is our savior in time of persecution. The Lord rises up and he comes to our aid. He did it in the past. He did it in the Bible. He did it with the Virgin Mary. He did it in Bethlehem. He did it with Zechariah, John the Baptist, to Moses, to Father Abraham, to Noah. He did it to Job in the Old Testament, to David the king, to Solomon the king. He did it to many prophets, to many judges. He did it in the New Testament to the apostles. He did it in the history of the church to many holy saints, people we know and people who we do not know. The Lord is shepherding his people. So let the full number of the nations now take their place in the family of the patriarchs. These words are for St. Leo the Great. And how can we as Americans, how can we as a people of faith assist that the nations will take their seat in the family of the patriarchs? It is time for us in the United States to rise up and to embrace our spiritual destiny. There has not been in the history of the United States like any time before, such as these times, where people, when we voted, we did not only vote because of problems and issues such as migration or such as the issues of the visas, H-1B, or the issue of homeland security or the issue of trade or the issue of the taxes or the issue of our health. We actually voted because in the fullness of conscience, we knew that the faith in our society, family in our society, the unit in our society that made us a children of God, children of light, what connected us together in love to each other and in love to God, our faith was under attack. And therefore, I believe this was a main factor for the people in the United States to have faith proclaimed, decreed, and announced the way we voted in the United States, and for what? Because somebody tried to take God out. Somebody tried to confuse us and tell us that God may not count, or to confuse the identity of God by turning vices into virtues, by convincing us that where there is darkness, it's actually light, by lying. By telling us if we kill more children, we are actually practicing freedom. No. The Lord has made his salvation known to the whole world. When he redeemed everybody. And he never allowed any longer that any human sacrifice will happen. No more children being killed. No more animals being offered on any altar. No more bulls. No more even fruits. Even anything. But he himself. took upon himself to redeem our fallen nature, because otherwise we had set on our course to destruction. So God comes always to the aid of his people. It is so beautiful to see every time we want to start prayer, we say, oh God, come to my assistance. Oh Lord, make haste to help me. This is our prayer today, my friends. I urge you and I want to thank you for continually supporting the Mission of Hope and Mercy. Please don't forget to go on our website, missionofhopeandmercy.org, and continue to assist us in our work, in our endeavor, as we too in our way. And with your support and your trust, we extend to other people on earth the salvation known to the whole world. When the Lord has made it known to us, we also make it known to others in times of persecution. And may Almighty God bless us all, protect us from all evil, forgive us our sins, give us the beauty and the prosperity we need and the blessings we need and the protection we need for this new year. And may God bring us all to peace, victory, and joy in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And may the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, triumph against all evil and the fruit of her womb, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And may God bring us to everlasting life. Amen.
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Join Scott Watley and Melanie Merlin in an exciting exploration of Alaska's Wild Alaskan Lodge. Discover the unique experience of self-guided fishing where you become the captain of your own boat. Learn how this one-of-a-kind adventure allows for freedom and personal exploration, offering unmatched scenic beauty and unforgettable catches. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a newcomer, this lodge provides everything you need to succeed with all-inclusive amenities and expert guidance. Dive into this captivating world and find out why it's a must-visit destination.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 05 :
welcome to sportsman of colorado thank you so much for joining us today we are glad you're with us we've got a great show in store for you as we've mentioned the international sportsman's expo is starting it is january the 9th at the colorado convention center uh through the weekend so thursday through sunday and uh we will be there i do not have our booth number yet but uh we are not hard to find and uh we will put that on social media as soon as we get it but uh It will be a great four days, and it's always great to see past friends that we have met there. And one of those, we are very glad, joins us today, and that is Melanie Merlin. She is with the Wild Alaskan Lodge. So, Melanie, thanks for being with us today on Sportsman of Colorado. How are you?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm great. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, we were just talking before we came on air, but, you know, we met last year. And then I actually came up to the Portland show. I'd never even been there before. I had no idea you guys were going to be there and was shocked to turn a corner. And there you and Jason were there in Portland. So I got to see you a couple of times. But, wow, the year has flown by. It's just I can't believe it's been a year.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, me neither. It's just like it's around the corner. It's just, yeah, it's been a crazy year.
SPEAKER 05 :
It sure has. So this is your first year that you guys did this, the Wild Alaskan Lodge. And so, as I was telling you, again, before we came on air here, boy, just seeing all the great pictures. And, boy, the beauty of this place is unmatched. And it sure looks like the fishing is unmatched. I mean, every picture I saw was just amazing. You know, great fish, great numbers, you know, size of fish, everything. So definitely we can't wait to get there this summer and spend some time with you guys. But kind of do some reflection back on your first year here and some of the folks that came to see you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes. So, you know, it was our first year open. A lot of it was guests with word of mouth from other people. Or we did pick up some from shows. year to do shows but i think for a first year open i think we had a really great turnout we had great great uh clients and that are now friends and we stay in connection with and so i think yeah of course along the way but i mean who doesn't in your first year you know we know how to fish but to have a lodge in alaska It is a whole another level.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right. Hey, you know, I tell you, I've never known of anybody that is doing what you guys are doing. And because at all the shows that we go to and different things, yeah, there's a lot of places from Alaska, but they're all guided places. And I've certainly done some of those and enjoyed those. But man, when you look at the freedom, so to speak, that what you guys are doing on a self-guided thing, and I'll let you explain everything that everyone can expect there, but it's really you want to talk about your fishing trip it's your fishing trip because you know you're not waiting on a boat for other people to catch maybe a certain species they're fishing for at that time and maybe you caught yours early on in the morning or something like that and you've got to wait three or four more hours for everybody else to catch their halibut or whatever or their rockfish so this is a great concept you guys have of being self-guided so kind of tell us what folks can expect.
SPEAKER 13 :
So what you can expect with self guided. You are captain of your own boat, so we provide everything for you. The minute you get into Juno, You worry about nothing else. We'll do the water transfer to and from Juneau out to Pelican. We'll go over an orientation the first night and have dinner. We'll go over the boat, make sure you know how to use all the different equipment, your tackles included. You can go out as early as you want, typically sunrise. This past season, it's like most people went out at 5.30 a.m. We provide your breakfast. It's the grab-and-go breakfast. We have your lunch prepared and on your boat. And then so you'll have your meal on your lunch on your boat. And then we have guests come in around 5.30 to get cleaned up and have dinner. And that allows our dock staff to get your fish immediately filleted. you to take home at the end of the week or whatever. Ours are six nights and five full days of fishing. But you don't need to bring anything. We have rain gear. We have your fishing gear. We have all your bait, tackle. Each room can hold up to four people. We have a double bed in each room and then three twin XLs. You have your own bathroom. And whoever you come with is who you're on the boat with. You don't have to worry about somebody else blending with you if you don't have four people. Four people is the max that we like to have on the boat. You don't want to put more than that on there. But say you come with two, we're not going to put you with two other people. And that's the duty of self-guided. You can go... Wherever you want to go, you can fish where you want to fish, and you can fish how long you want to. I personally have done guided, and there's limits on your catch, how much fish you can keep, the sizes. And so we have more leeway in that area as self-guided. You can keep two halibuts per person per day, any size. Depending on the time of the season, you can always buy a king stamp, and you can keep those. If you come early enough in the season, it's usually three per person annually. The later you come in the season, the Alaska fishing game, they'll start leaning it back so that they'll have plenty full of more fish for fishing. the area, you got your rockfish or, I mean, you can catch, I mean, all kinds of things. So we do provide a little cheat sheet for you to look and go, okay, this is a rockfish. Can we keep this one? Is it non-pelagic? Is it pelagic? But we will help you with everything that you need to be successful in your fishing trip. And then one thing I was going to say, but yeah, we do the boats are cleaned every day. We refresh your tackle. We fuel your boats. That's all included in your package. So once you get to Juneau, there is no need for you to purchase anything else unless you want to buy apparel. But that's really the only thing you need. If you have something special that you like to fish with, you're more than welcome to bring it. But we have it all. And another beautiful thing about our lodge is we are directly waterfront. And so if you don't want to venture out too far, you are more than welcome to fish right in front of the lodge. And you're going to catch just as much fish as if you went into the open ocean.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is what's great. Because, I mean, I've seen people on a dock before. You know, boats are coming in and a guy on a dock or a gal on a dock sitting there catching fish. So, hey, it's Alaska.
SPEAKER 13 :
It is. And so on those days that maybe you are just still not ready to go out into the open ocean, you can also go into the inside passage. It's a little bit more protected. And then you, I mean, it's both ways. The mouth is about 20 minute boat ride, depending on, you know, kind of your, your wind, your, your water conditions, which we will always give you that every night before. So you can kind of plan that out, plan your route. And the glory of it is, every evening when you come in we do a everybody has dinner together so you get to hear what this boat did where they were at what they caught you can just you know bounce ideas off each other and just kind of we have maps where you can see where you know some some are really great about looking at their you know if they want to focus on halibut you're going to be looking for an area that immediately drops off because their bottom feeders that's kind of where they set and so that is the one of the coolest things is me running down there to see what you have in your boat when you come in and then also getting to hear all the stories Everybody else about how their day went and where they went. And so, yeah, we are literally closest to the fish. So you have about 100 miles of coastline untouched. Either direction coming into our inlet or the inside passage. So it is for people in Sitka. It's going to be too far for them to go. Juno too far for them to go. So you just have your fishing and a lot more. The fishing. The population of fish is greater than if you go to those more popular areas. Everybody wants to go to the Kenai and Sitka. And there's great fishing everywhere you go, but those are so overfished. Your fish population is less. And so there's no way you can come in and not have a fish. If you do, I might laugh at you because... I mean, there's so many. It's just whatever you want, it's just right there for you to get.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Melanie Merlin is our guest. Once again, it's the Wild Alaskan Lodge, and they will be here January the 9th. That's the first day of the International Sportsman's Expo. It's Thursday through Sunday, and we'll be there as well with our Sportsman of Colorado radio booth, and so we hope to see you there. And, you know, Melanie, one thing I noticed in just looking through all the pictures and following you guys on social media this year was, you know, you could tell there were some couples, there were some families, there was guys. You know, I mean, this is great for ever how you want to set it up, family, whatever.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes. I mean, looking back over the season, this past season we had just as many women and couples And we did just guys hanging out and going on a fishing trip or what have you. And I think another big passion for us is young anglers, like for them to come out. And so we had some youngsters come out last year and they had, it was the time of their life. And then we have quite a few young ones again this year, but we have just as many women and couples coming. And, you know, a diverse group of people come. And so I thought that was great because everything's fishing. Oh, that's going to be a guy's trip. Nope, I'm coming with you because I'm going to outfish you. It's a competition.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. All right. Now, as far as getting your fishing license, do they do that at the lodge with you or should they get that before they come?
SPEAKER 13 :
So you're going to get that online prior to your coming there. If you don't have a chance to do that, there's a sportsman warehouse in Juneau that's very close to the airport that you can go. Some people will come the night before. It is hard to get into Juneau and out into where we are within the same day. I mean, you can do it. It's hard. So typically people will come in, you know, a day before or stay after, but they also like to extend their vacation and then kind of season stuff in Juneau. But you're going to want to be at the airport and have your bags ready on the day that you're, say you're coming the 5th through the 11th. You will need to be in Juneau by 1230, 1245. We will have shuttles coming to bring you and take you down to Auk Bay where the catamaran is. It's a high-speed catamaran. And then from there, the catamaran is about a four-hour ride. Wildlife, you're going to be... It's mind-blowing just the wildlife and the beauty of what you're going to see on that. And then... Yeah, and the reason we do a catamaran is because there are float planes, and you're more than welcome to always do a float plane. It's just the weather is unpredictable, so you could be stuck one or two days still in Juneau before they fly out. So we do catamaran, the high-speed catamaran, because you're going to get out that same day and then be back in. And so whatever fish you catch, you keep. And so we use that. We'll package it up. And then you will take that back as your checked baggage with you. So we always say pack light, a few base layers, you know, stuff that you can take off if it gets hot or whatever. Sure. Because we have the rain gear. We have the rain boots. But, yeah. So did I answer your question or did I get sidetracked?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, no. You did very, very well.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. So get your license before and all and you'll be all set. And as far as what you're going to be doing at the show for a trip or whatever. So what are we looking at for it for the. And again, this is much different. A lot of people are four nights and three days of fishing, different things. So this is six nights and five days of fishing. So this is a lot of fishing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, you can, you know, like I said, a lot of people left at 5.30 a.m. We asked that you be in at 5.30 just because, you know, again, all the boats and then getting the fish and then all that kind of stuff. So people will fish 12 hours a day. And I will tell you, prior to us building our lodge, when we went on our – we did self-guided for 17 years or 18 years. And so, yeah, so it's one of those – I just lost my train of thought. That's okay. But yeah, so say it again.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, the six nights and five days of fishing. So just plenty of fishing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah. There is plenty of fishing and most people take full advantage of it and will fish for 12 hours a day. Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. So what are we looking at for the package?
SPEAKER 13 :
So our package is $4,300 per person, and that gives you six nights, five full days of fishing. That's all your meals, your water transfer from Juneau to Pelican, and then Pelican back to Juneau. We have laundry service, so we do your laundry every day. That's your boat, your fuel, your tackle. You're going to have how many ever people are on your boat. If you have three, you're going to get three halibut rods and three salmon rods. And then, yeah, so but for the show, if anybody is listening on your show and they book and mention your name, then we will give $100 off per person. Okay, well, we appreciate that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you and I were talking about, you know, I mean, first of all, this is a great deal, all right, I mean, for $4,300. So, hey, $100, hey, probably cover your non-resident fishing license. It does.
SPEAKER 13 :
A non-residential fishing license for the week, you want to do the seven-day one because I think five wouldn't cover you or whatever, is $45. Yep, okay. And then if you wanted to get a king stamp, you do have to have an additional stamp for that. It's $45. And you know what?
SPEAKER 05 :
I tell everybody. I don't care when you're there. I tell everybody to get that because you know what? You never know.
SPEAKER 13 :
You don't. And if you don't have that stamp, you have to let it go. And nothing hurts me worse than having to let a fish go that I have worked so hard for. So I used to, in the beginning, I was like, I don't know. And then I would catch one and it's like, you got to put it back. I'm like, ah. So yeah, so you can do that. You want to get your license, not the day that you're, so that August, say it's August 5th to the 11th. You want to make sure your start date for your fishing is August 6th. through the 11th and then that covers you uh because that first day you're not going to fish because you're going to probably get to the lodge around 6 6 30. and so that night well you know you have dinner we're going to go over the boat stuff orientation and then you can go first thing that next morning and you're going to fish for five days gotcha wow
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I tell you, we're super excited about having you guys here, and we're going to be doing a lot with you this year and coming. I've got my thing. And I want to mention this, too. You've got some partners there at the hotel because you mentioned coming to Juneau early, and that's what we're going to do because I think I'm coming that Sunday, June 29th. uh something like that um and you hooked me up with a hotel a guy gave me your discount so um you know if you need help with any of that they will be able to help you but i hope you'll come see us at the international sportsman's expo again it starts the 9th of january and we'll go through sunday and uh we will be there every hour it's open and i know melanie and jason will as well and Hey, if you come over and see us, we'll take you over and introduce you to them. And we would love to get a bunch of people there. And we're going to work on something this year where maybe in 2026 we can even work on a Sportsman of Colorado group for folks that may want to go with us, Kevin Flesch and myself. We're going to be working on some good things to really be a great partner for them. And, hey, this is a great chance to see Alaska your way, all right? Again, the guided trips can do what they do, but this is something where you can really make this your trip. And these are great folks, and we are super excited to partner with you guys, Melanie. So we'll look forward to seeing you at the ISE show, and we'll have a great time. And, man, thanks so much for being with us. We appreciate it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, thank you. Thank you for having us.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. We'll see you soon. That's Melanie Merlin once again, the Wild Alaskan Lodge. Follow them on social media. You'll see all the great pigs. It is a beautiful spot, and we'll be doing some more interviews with them, as again, all throughout here in 2025 and some of the guests as well. You're listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We've got to take a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, thank you so much for joining us. Always good to have Dr. Melissa Fling with us. She is our audiologist for Sportsman of Colorado Custom Ear Solutions. Her number is 720-839-7705. Melissa, good to see you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good to see you, too. I love being the resident audiologist here.
SPEAKER 05 :
You are. Hey, you are the official audiologist for Sportsman of Colorado, for sure. And, wow, I'm so glad, you know, I came in to see you and our paths crossed to get my hearing tested, you know, a month or so ago. And then, you know, we decided what custom... Things I needed and one was we designed for me was just when I'm at the range and just doing some shooting and don't really need to talk with anybody just protect my ears. And before I move that on one thing you're suggesting to is not only the custom. Moles that you made me, but then also using the muffs around. That's just going to be extra protection, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, for indoor shooting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, for indoor shooting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, because with indoor shooting, the sound, you know, you'd have to tell me, but from what I know, there's a lot of hard surfaces in there, and it's an enclosed room, so the sound is bouncing, you know, it's ricocheting all over the walls, which amplifies it a little bit more. So it makes an already loud sound louder.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Yeah, and most of the ones that I'll go to, they're kind of individual cubicles, so to speak. So there's maybe some wood or sometimes there's glass, whatever, paneling kind of between you and the next shooter there. And you may be shooting a lower caliber gun, but the... Person next to you on either side can be shooting a large caliber. And so all of a sudden you're sitting there. I mean, man, you know, a big gun goes off and you just weren't ready for that, you know. And so, you know, so those actually just got today from her. And but then once I got back a couple weeks ago from you. uh these are the ones with the filters so i can use when i'm hunting and i do need to maybe converse with some guys i'm hunting with and i do you know they need to tell me something i need to tell them something i could hear them perfectly and yet when the guns went off it shut down that protection and uh it you know and it was weird wearing them because i haven't done it you know as much as i should have through the years but i'm telling you one they were super comfortable okay two super easy to put in you know it's got the little um Removal string. Removal string, yeah. Boy, so you know you've got them in right and then just easy to pull out and put back in when you're taking a break or whatever. But, yeah, I mean, super, super nice. As I told you, I just wish I would have done this. I wish you would have crossed my path many years ago. I know. So I wouldn't be hearing this ringing that we constantly hear because – When you look at damaging your ears, I mean, it's not just like one time. But that progression of time. Well, one time can do it. I shouldn't say that. Because one time, a loud sound can do that. But we've said this. It's never too late. So, hey. Right. I'll be 67 in May. Okay? So, it's never too late. And I'm going to do my best to never be without these. Yeah. With anything I do now. Because... it you know it's just going to get worse you know yeah with hearing right and tinnitus flaring up more and all of that so yeah and the custom thing and we talked about this when you're on our haystack show but you know the custom ear solutions great name because three things hey it's custom okay you're focusing on our ears and you're providing solutions and so And we talked about this too. I mean, with your hearing test, I mean, this is all you're really trying to, Hey, let's check your hearing and let's find out, you know, what you need.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Right. Pretty simply. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we said this, and I want to bring this up because I think a lot of people do expect if they come into an audiologist and then they figure, okay, boy, they're going to have all kinds of hearing aids and maybe be pushed to buy something there and all that. Sure. And again, there's nothing wrong with that. Both of us have friends in that business, and that's what they do, and they're really good at it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's important and necessary.
SPEAKER 05 :
But your business model is a little different of where you just want to work with the hearing, figure out – Are there some custom mold solutions you can do to help them protect what they've got?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Yeah. My focus is on prevention, really. And then the custom part of it comes into play, which I think is fun because not all non-custom options are a good option for everybody, depending on... One, what they're using hearing protection for. But two, some people have the shape and size of their ear canals don't jive well with foam earplugs or silicone earplugs or muffs get uncomfortable after a long time. So it's fun to kind of figure out who is a good candidate for custom based on what they need and the shape and size of their ear canal. Right. You know, a lot of people have like with Apple AirPods, for example, a lot of people come to me curious about the molds for those because they're exercising with them on. And so their ears get sweaty or they're running or whatever. And the pods either feel loose or they fall out. So they want something that's just going to secure it. So that kind of stuff comes up, too. So it's not just about protection, but also customization of a product, of a mold or of your ear to make another product work better so you can use it and not have to worry about it falling out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And $125 is a hearing test. Correct. Tell us what they'll get for that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So it'd be consultation one. So we'd go over, you know, your health history comprehensively. Examination of the ear canals and the eardrums. a test to make sure that your eardrums are functioning properly, a pressure test, and then the in-booth testing, which will measure your hearing sensitivity, how well you can discriminate speech in quiet, and also how well you can discriminate speech in noise. And then another thing I wanted to highlight that not a lot of are doing right now is testing the extended high frequency range of hearing, which we did with you. So it's standard to test hearing from low pitch, a low pitch, like 250 Hertz up to a higher pitch, like 8,000 Hertz. And that's usually the cutoff. But we could hear up to 20,000 hertz. And that whole area from 8,000 to 20,000 is often not getting tested. It's just completely ignored. But that's an important part of hearing. So that's something that I offer as well. I can test up to 18,000 hertz. That's kind of where it stops for my equipment. But that's a useful area because I've seen a lot of people that come in, young, healthy people that come in that feel like they're not... something's just a little off about their hearing. Mostly this happens with veterans that I see. And they have normal, beautiful hearing between 250 and 8,000 hertz. And then we go beyond that and they've got this huge drop off at 14,000 hertz or something. So that's something that wouldn't be found unless we tested that area. So that's something I want to highlight is that I offer that, which is important for people that are noise exposed, doesn't matter what you're doing if it's firearms if it's industrial if it's music that area of your hearing is likely to get damaged more and we wouldn't know about it until later because we don't test beyond 8 000 hertz so i do test beyond 8 000 hertz and um we can find damage sooner and then try to you know make a plan to prevent it from getting worse yeah
SPEAKER 05 :
Here's what we're going to do. We're going to do a little special here. Shoot indoors, Buckley. Tim Christopherson, you just heard on our Sportsman of Colorado show recently. Tim and I have worked out something where we want to get you to the range, but we want to get your ears protected first. All right, so here's what we're going to do. If you call Melissa, make an appointment, get a hearing test, 720-839-7705, and you get some custom ear molds done, whether that just be one set or you get several, whatever she suggests for you, I would highly recommend you do because she knows what she's doing. She's really helped me. But we're going to get you a $50 gift card to Shoot Indoors Buckley. All right. So just know that she knows that. And we'll have the gift card for you at the store. So she won't have it with her, but she will just let me know when you come in and we will get you a $50 gift card. Again, there's several Shoot Indoors locations, but it's only good at the Buckley location, which is off of 225 in Mississippi area. So close to our station here, hopefully convenient for you. We'll get you a $50 gift card to shoot indoors Buckley. Let's walk through a couple of your most popular models that you're doing for people. Or you can talk about what you did for me, too. The range type, the ones with the filters, and let's kind of walk through those for a minute.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so I would say for shooting, there's kind of three levels. The most basic would be the solid ear molds, which we got for you for indoor target shooting, which you would pair with ear muffs, just so double protection when you're doing indoor shooting. And those are when you don't really need to be aware. You don't need to communicate or really be aware of your surroundings as much. You just need the most hearing protection that you can get. pricing, you want me to go over pricing with that? Sure, sure. Those would be $1.55 for the pair. Now, there is a little caveat to that that I didn't mention before, that I charge a service fee for the ear mold impressions, and that's $50, so $25 per ear for impressions. And something unique also that I can do is I can convert the physical impressions into digital files. So I'll have those digital files indefinitely, and we can order... more molds off of those same impressions without having to do them each time you need a new pair of molds. Oh, okay. Yeah. Now, people's ears will change a little bit over time, so I would say if it's been five years or more, we probably need to do new impressions. Okay. So, yeah, so 50 for impressions, 155 for the solid ear molds. The next level up would be filtered, which is a little higher cost because they have those filters in them. Those are... Great for hunting when you need to be aware of your surroundings, but you also need protection at the same time. So molds with impulse filters in them will allow that communication and then protection when there's any kind of impulse noise, like a gunshot. Those are 205 for the pair. Okay. And then the third level up, which would be the highest level, is electronic. Those would be useful in the same situation as the impulse filters, hunting, if you need to be aware of your surroundings. But they have microphones on them, and they amplify, just like hearing aids. They're very, very basic technology hearing aids, pretty much. And you have volume control on those. Those are beneficial for people that... might have a little bit of hearing loss too, but they also want to be able to hear well and protect. So it allows you to turn the volume up. The microphones will shut off immediately with any impulse noise above 90 dB input. And they're Bluetooth capable, so you can stream from your phone, so you can use them like AirPods, but they're custom fitted. They're rechargeable batteries in them, so you don't have to change the batteries. Those are $1,350 for the pair. Okay. So that's more of an investment. Sure. Because they're electronic. They last forever. They'll last a long time. Right. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Once again, our office is right here in Greenwood Village. Tell us about that real quick.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so Greenwood Village, kind of in the Denver Tech Center area, I-25, and Bellevue, basically, is where the office is located.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, all right. Enter number 720-839-7705. So once again, if you're just joining us, give her a call, get a hearing test. If you purchase any of those, all of those, whatever, all right? Hey, if you purchase two, I might give you another gift card. All right, but hey, we will get you a $50 gift card to shoot indoors Buckley. And get you out on the range, but certainly get your ears protected first. Now, another service you offer, because some people may know they already have this condition, I guess we'll call it, is a problem with wax in the ears.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. So you can... Yep, I can remove wax. And I just... We may have talked about this before, but I got this exciting new... piece of equipment called the Irrigator, and it just makes flushing wax out of the ear so safe, so easy, so comfortable. You know, I've used other tools in the past that just, it's like, man, we really need something better than this. So somebody came out with a really great piece of equipment, and it's just safe and comfortable and easy and quick to flush wax out of the ears, if that's the best way to get it out. But yeah, so I can offer that service to ear wax removal. Right. Yeah. All right. And a lot of people have that? Well, yeah, actually they do. You know, I would say most people's ears that I look in, their ear canal is either clear or they have just a little bit, a normal amount of wax. But some people, just like some people sweat more than others, some people produce more wax than others and it can get impacted and it has to be taken out regularly. So those are the people that I can help.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I would bet there have been people that... thought they really had a hearing loss and maybe got a wax removed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh yeah, just had a huge chunk of wax in their ear. And then it's like, oh my God, I can hear. And then your air is flowing into your ear. It just feels better when you get it out. So yeah, that's another important service that I can offer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And, you know, I always tell people, too, with kids, I mean, a lot of guys or ladies may take kids hunting and their things. Man, this is something really important for them, too. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they have got to have their ears protected. So what a way to start out when they're young like that. is to have some custom ear protection. So, you know, hey, you spend a couple hundred bucks, 150 bucks, whatever the case is, man, to protect your children's ears, I promise you they're going to be very grateful to you for doing that.
SPEAKER 10 :
So important. You know, and I will say custom is not as good of an option for kids under a certain age. Because it's changing. Their ears are growing quickly, yeah. But I have done that. Actually, I had a family come to me at the... Mile High Hunt and Fish Expo. We did custom for the kids, and they love them. But probably under the year of maybe under eight years, even that's pretty young, the growth of those starts to slow down a little bit there versus birth to eight.
SPEAKER 05 :
But if they get that 13, 14, 15, good choice.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Teenage ears. Definitely. It's pretty stable then. But yeah. And they can they can still do custom if they want. We just might have to replace them more often or we would have to replace them more often than with an adult because their ears are growing. Sure. But yeah. Or muffs. Ear muffs are fine for them, too. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just make sure you're wearing something.
SPEAKER 10 :
Make sure you're protecting. Yeah. Bystanders, anybody, whether they're shooting or not, if they're near it, they need to be wearing hearing protection.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, for sure. Hey, it's Custom Air Solutions, customairsolutions.com. Give her a call, 720-839-7705. Once again, I've got a couple sets of these and I've really enjoyed them. And I hope that you will give Melissa a call. Hey, get a $50 gift card to shoot indoors buckly when you get a hearing test. And buy now. Any of those, okay, from her will get you a $50 gift card. And her office address, I'll give you that, is 7350 East Progress Place in Greenwood Village. Again, just right off of Bellevue there in the Denver Tech Center. So, Melissa, our time goes too quickly, but thank you for yours. Thank you. You're listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We'll be right back.
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This is KLZ 560, your home station.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Sports North Colorado again. Thank you so much for being with us. We are excited about 2025 and a lot of good things in store for you. So we appreciate all of our listeners throughout the, wow, the years since we started. Hey, January 2013 was our first show, and we are thrilled to still be here and very thankful once again you are listening and all of our sponsors that have helped us and One of those guys that has really helped us a lot and been a great friend of our show and supporter is Wynn Eubank. And Wynn is the owner of Colorado Outdoor Sports. And Wynn, first of all, welcome to the show. How are you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Scott. Welcome. Appreciate being on the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Man, I'm sure when you started your business and you look back now and you see all the years that have passed, sometimes it's like, wow, how did that even happen?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, that's a funny story all within itself because – I've been telling people for the last, I don't know, five years that it's 12 or 13 years, and then Quentin pointed out to me that I knew him before, what is his little boy's name?
SPEAKER 05 :
Tegan?
SPEAKER 06 :
I knew him before Tegan was born.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Tegan's 15, so I've been at this over 15 years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. Well, good for you. Well, hey, we are here because Wynn is going to join us at the International Sportsman's Expo. Now, our show does replay on Thursdays at 9 a.m., also on Sundays at 8 in the morning, 8 at night. You will hear this on Thursday, which will be the opening day. It is January the 9th through the 12th at the Colorado Convention Center. And once again, we are glad to be there. And Wynn will be there as well with Colorado Outdoor Sports. So, Wynn, for those that haven't heard you, the one or two that haven't heard you on the show through the years, give us in a nutshell kind of what Colorado Outdoor Sports is all about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Colorado Outdoor Sports is a do-it-yourself hunt and fish club We have 40 plus reservable properties that once you reserve a piece of property for yourself, either for the morning or the afternoon or all day. It is your piece of private property, and no one else is allowed on it. We use an online reservation system, and it's extremely easy to use.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Now, I tell you, you look back in just what the last five, ten years has done, I can't imagine what the next five years, ten years are going to look like for trying to find a place to hunt. That's the number one thing people are so frustrated with. And, dude, you've got some properties that are relatively close, and even the ones that are a little bit of a drive aren't that far. So kind of give us some range of what we're talking about drive time to some of your properties.
SPEAKER 06 :
Almost all our properties, except for a couple, can be accessed from downtown Denver in an hour and a half to an hour and 45 minutes drive. We do have properties right in Fort Lupton that are as close as 20 minutes. Some of the best catch-and-release fishing and or Platte River – duck and waterfowl. Colorado Outdoor Sports is extremely proud to be able to say that we have more water than any other club in Colorado.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. Okay. Now, everybody's going, well, what's this, $10,000 a year, $5,000 a year? You're going to have a show special, and I asked you if we could creep in on that a little bit. So what are we going to be doing at the ISE show, the International Sportsman's Expo?
SPEAKER 06 :
So our standard family membership, which includes you, your spouse, and your dependents, is normally $495 initiation and $1480 a year in dues. So special would be if you pay your dues in two payments, one at ISE and another committed by June 1st, you will not have to pay the 495 initiation. Wow. That's a one-quarter savings on your initiation.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'm not real good at math, but that's about 25% savings. Yep. All right. Wow. And you know what? Folks have to realize, too, these properties don't come cheap. I mean, a lot of these ranchers, farmers or folks that have these properties, they could do some other things with this property. But, you know, they've chosen to let you work with them because I know, number one, you're going to take care of the property. But, you know, it costs a lot of money to keep these up and do the things maybe with pits, different things that you've got to do. So this is a tremendous deal, man. And you're the only one that's going to be there. And it works on an online reservation, right? So explain that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we use an online reservation. You can go see the properties. You can see maps of the properties. You get GPS locations. You can go out and scout the property ahead of time. We also have a massive diversity. So we've got goose fields. We've got goose pits. We've got open river. We've got duck blinds on the river. We've got other ponds that you can either, you know, A-frame or hide on. And then we've got other ponds that have duck blinds on them. It's a super, super different variety. That way, every different guy that wants to hunt in a different fashion can. I have guys that won't hunt out of a pit. And I have guys that reserve a pitted property and then hunt out of the layout anyway.
SPEAKER 05 :
it's crazy it's a little bit of everything right right and here's another really good thing about this is you can get to learn some of these properties and um you know you can you can check with other members maybe that have hunted there or guys gals pretty good about sharing information um you know some of them are you know when it's
SPEAKER 06 :
When a spot is hot, nobody's sharing it. It's just, you know, once the hot is gone, then they'll share it a little bit, you know. But we do have a private Facebook page that if you don't want to be on Facebook even, this is 1,000% private. Nobody on there. on there except members and or friends of the club. You know, and mentioning that, there's even a couple landowners on there. And, you know, mentioning that a lot of our landowners are with us because they know that we're family oriented. And they've actually turned away
SPEAKER 05 :
other guys that approach them that are not family oriented yeah and and like you say this is a great place completely do it yourself now we want to make very clear there's no guiding here um you take care of you got decoys whatever everything's up to you and um and when you're you're When I say you're picky, I mean, you go through a lot to get these properties and you want to take care of these properties. So kind of talk about some of the speeches and rules that you, you know, everyone's just going to have to abide by to be a member.
SPEAKER 06 :
So one of the things that we don't do because it is a do it yourself club and because of what you just said in the interest of keeping things, we don't believe in like, like we have two six man pits out in Fort Morgan for geese. If you and, Let's say you and Kevin wanted to go out there and hunt that by yourself. Those other four spots, they're not mandated to be filled. I don't believe in that you have to hunt with somebody else. You know, you reserve yours. And, you know, that's kind of how that works.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. You know, you got to have people that are going to maintain the property and be of help to you. And so it's just crucial that people do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
We have rules that you are supposed to clean up behind yourself, you know, and also police other members. So, you know, if you show up at a property and the property is littered with shotgun shells, A, I'm going to ask you to pick them up. B, I'm going to ask you to, you know, text me and say, hey, so-and-so, I looked on view calendar, had this before me, and he left quite a bit of mess. And then I get on the phone and I have a conversation with them. And if this happens three times, I tell them, you know what, you may not be a good fit for us.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, folks, unfortunately, I have had to tell some guys that they have to go.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. Hey, it's the International Sportsman's Expo, January the 9th through the 12th. Wynn will be there. And Wynn, your booth, I think you told me, is 909C.com. That is correct. Yep. And so you can come see Wynn there. Our booth is 428. Now, here's something I'm going to do. I bought some gift cards from one of our sponsors, Shoot Indoors Buckley. If you see Wynn at the show and you sign up with him, Wynn can get you over to my booth and we're going to give you a $50 gift. a gift card to shoot indoors buckley and it's a great shooting range uh now there's several shooting doors but this your gift card is only good at the buckley location i'm going to be very clear about that so not only are you going to save the 500 bucks the initiation fee so to speak um but hey to join a private club for 1488 you can make two payments on that and save that $500, then you're going to get a $50 gift card to shoot indoors Buckley by Sportsman of Colorado. So we are happy to do that, and that'll be cool.
SPEAKER 06 :
I was listening to his show as you were talking to him the other day, and he said he just got his new sign-up that you can see for my 25, and I just saw it last night.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay. Good deal. Yeah, Tim does a great job, and it's a great range. But, hey, come see us. We'll be there every hour. It's open, I promise you. So come see us. It's going to be a lot of fun. Again, it's the Denver International Sportsman's Expo at the Convention Center. Thursday the 9th through Sunday the 12th. The hours, just real quick, are noon to 7, Thursday, Friday, 10 to 7 Saturday, 10 to 4 Sunday. So I hope you'll come see us, and be sure you get by Colorado Outdoor Sports and sign up with Wynn and get your $50 gift card to shoot indoors Buckley. So, Wynn, thank you, sir. We'll look forward to seeing you down there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks for doing that, Scott. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, bud. Thanks so much. Bye. Thanks for being with us today for Sportsman of Colorado. I want to thank all of our guests. And really, folks, hey, thank you so much for all of our listeners. And we are looking forward to 2025. And it's going to be a great year. And we hope you will stay with us and be a part of it. So Happy New Year to everyone. And we will talk to you next week.
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