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Join John Rush and Andy Peth for the Friday edition of Rush to Reason! Dive into expert HVAC advice with Hunter from Cub Creek, who shares essential furnace maintenance tips and discusses upcoming EPA refrigerant regulations. Then, gear up for insightful movie reviews, including a fresh take on Mufasa and Sonic the Hedgehog 3. Wrapping up the hour, the hosts debate favorite Christmas movies and share the enduring charm of A Charlie Brown Christmas. Perfect for getting into the holiday spirit while staying informed!
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It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
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And who do you think they give you?
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So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
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I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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What do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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All right, welcome. Friday edition Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes on a beautiful Friday, December the 20th.
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Yep, heading into Christmas time.
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It is super, super nice. So if you haven't been outside, get outside and enjoy it because it's really nice. Hunter from Cub Creek, speaking of being nice, it's also cold at night though, so you still need your furnace, Hunter.
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That is right, and every once in a while we get a cold day.
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And we're not out of winter yet, so as you know, we get spoiled with these, and the worst is yet to come. Let's just say that.
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Yeah, typically that January, February is when it really starts to get cold.
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Yeah, this is not uncommon. I can remember being here my whole life, as you. I've grown up here, and I can remember many a Christmas where it was super nice outside. You get your toys, you go outside, you hang out, you have fun. Maybe you got a new football or whatever the case may be. I can also remember some where there was two foot of snow.
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I agree with that completely.
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We can have either or. Bottom line, these things need to be functioning properly. And what are you finding right now, Hunter, as you go out and do service calls and so on? What are some of the big things you find right now?
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The big things are igniters. We're starting to get mostly igniters, filter changes, furnaces going out on high limits. That's some of the big stuff. And obviously that's mostly wear and tear and normal maintenance stuff. So, yeah, if you have us check out your furnace before then, it's a good way to prevent. We can catch those things hopefully before they go out and leave you stranded.
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Okay. So you can basically see if an igniter is going. You can check that.
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Yeah, we can look at it and we do a visual inspection on it. And if there's any, yeah, if there's any signs of it starting to crack or typically like on hot surface igniters, they start to get some like white discoloration and stuff like that. That's usually a pretty good sign that they're at their end of their life, getting towards the end of their life. And for something like that that's a relatively small repair, it's definitely worth the money and the peace of mind just to replace it at that point. Sure.
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Hunter, and this is something we haven't chatted about, so I'm just going to spring this on you. Is there any big environmental-type changes coming when it comes to furnaces and things like that that folks need to be looking at? In other words, is there any major EPA new regs coming in 2025 or 2026 that if folks wanted to be ahead of that, they can? Or is there any major changes coming at all?
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Yeah, actually starting January 1st, they are releasing their new, the EPA is releasing their new refrigerant regulations. So that pertains more to the air conditioning side of things. But the current refrigerant we're using now, they are going to start to phase out. Now, that doesn't mean that it's going to be not available at all, but they are going to start phasing it out and moving to two different new refrigerants. So with that, of course, everybody, all the manufacturers and everything else are using that time to –
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roll out their new line of equipment and everything else so um as far as that goes we do see um some price increases coming with that yeah i'm assuming i don't know your industry but on the automotive industry we switched over to the you know why you know the one two three four yf which is their newest refrigerant which i'm guessing is now hitting you guys which is a lot more expensive than what we had prior
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Our stuff has been expensive, but actually it's funny that you say that. The two refrigerants we're switching to are R32 and R404B. And the second of the two actually is a mixture of R32 and your automotive refrigerant, YF1234 or whatever that is.
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Well, that's why it's going to be expensive. It just is. So the question I have along those lines, if somebody's thinking of doing a complete upgrade, they want to do the furnace, they want to do the AC unit, get them all done at the same time, would it benefit them to get that done prior to these things being mandated and there's no old inventory of the less expensive refrigerant?
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Yeah, it's hard to say. I would say yes, but the way they're moving, and it is moving fast, and everybody's starting to phase out. So we are starting to see where we are starting to have issues getting the older equipment. And it really just depends on brand. Because the mandate is January 1st, they cannot manufacture the old 410A units anymore. They still will supply parts and we will still have parts for our 410A units. um through i think they're telling us 2025 january of 2020 or sorry january of 2026 okay um and then after that it'll start backing out just kind of like previously like r22 did okay so something to think about folks and hunter i know that five hundred dollars or more you guys can help with the financing of things whether it's a complete you know furnace replacement or just a part that you need to take care of you can handle that for folks as well right Absolutely. And the other thing, too, that we do want to mention is we do give free second opinion. So if you have another company come out and they tell you you need a new furnace or anything and you don't feel right about it, we do offer that free second opinion and we will always be honest and fair with you on what you offer. what fits you and what your needs are, and we'll give you our honest opinion.
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I know you will. I've known you guys for a very long time. I can vouch for that. So all of you listening, that's never an issue with Cub Creek. Call them today, 303-656-5467. You can also find them at klzradio.com or rushtoreason.com. Hunter, we sure appreciate you guys. Tell your dad hello. Merry Christmas to all of you at Cub Creek. And, again, we really appreciate the partnership, Hunter. And Merry Christmas to you, John. Thanks so much. You're very welcome. You take care, Hunter, and Happy New Year as well. Don't forget veteran windows and doors. I talked about them a little bit during Ready Radio today, by the way, when it comes to the security of your front or back door. Right now, 40% off entry doors, free labor to install. Call Dave today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for a movie?
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Absolutely.
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It's Christmas time. You got to be ready for movies.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, John, we've seen The Lion King. Yeah. Right. But what about his father, Mufasa? Well, it's time for a new CGI lion movie in Mufasa.
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This story begins far beyond the mountains and the shadows. On the other side of the light. A lion was born without a drop of nobility in his blood. A lion who would change our lives forever.
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The Earth will shake.
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Destiny awaits you.
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All right, John. John, do you have a drop of nobility in your blood? Yeah. You do? Of course. From what? I don't. You don't have any? No. There's nothing noble about me.
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They did a measurement, and they found nothing noble in me. One of my ancestors signed the Declaration of Independence. Really? Yes. Benjamin Rush.
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Well, that's very impressive, sir. That's very impressive. None of mine did. Mine were a bunch of German Nazis back at that time, probably. I don't know. We actually came over before that. But okay, here we go. We all know about the Lion King, but what about his dad? How did Mufasa get started? Well, as a young cub, Mufasa was not royalty at all, but he had good parents, John, very good parents, wonderful mom, wonderful dad, and they loved him very much. Well, then tragedy strikes and Mufasa finds himself far from home and alone. Another young lion, Taka, and he's going to be very important here. He rescues Mufasa from crocodiles and drowning. So that's pretty cool. And Taka is next in line for being the lion king. But he really wants a brother. And so he takes Mufasa home. Well, Taka's dad, the Lion King, rejects Mufasa since he doesn't trust outsiders. But Taka's mom cares for Mufasa and she sees great potential in him. You see, John, Mufasa, he has this incredible sense of smell. He knows if enemies or prey are nearby or even if they're a long way off, he can really sense it. And it's very, very impressive. You can almost see that he's going to be a leader one day because he can sense what's coming. Well, Mufasa also is very brave. And when he demonstrates this, the Lion King finally takes him in. But a rival group of white lions are invading the area. Oh, these Caucasians, I tell you.
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Yeah, I know.
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They're always running rampant.
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That's what they do.
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Yeah. Well, they're invading the area. They're larger. They're ferocious. And as Taka's parents are ready for their last stand, they send Taka and Mufasa, who are now teenagers, right? They send them away to preserve the lion. But the white lions and their great leader are also great trackers, so they pursue the two young lions into the mountains. Along the way, Mufasa and Taka, they meet, you know, they put together a little group. They meet a monkey, they meet a bird, and they also meet a female lion. Now, the monkey is named Rafiki, and he's in all of the Lion King movies. And he is the wise monkey who goes on to guide Mufasa throughout his life. Unfortunately, Taka desires the female, but she has eyes for Mufasa. You see a problem right there, don't you? Well, this drives a wedge between the two friends. Taka is also jealous of Mufasa's great abilities. All along, while fleeing the White Lions and dealing with their growing rivalry, Mufasa and Taka are seeking a great paradise. a rich area that they've heard of since their youth. Some people see it, sorry, some lions see it as fantasy. It doesn't actually exist. And those lions also question the circle of life. They say, oh, that's a myth. That's not real. Others, though, say it's real. This land is real. We have to get there. It's almost like Moses going to the promised land, only you just got this little group of them. Anyway, can they survive, John? And even if they do, will they be allies or enemies? And that's the story of Mufasa. What do you think?
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The CGI looks tremendous.
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Yes. I actually, and Charlie was talking about it during the break, they did some more unique things with the CGI here in their camera work and being able to follow the actors as they were portraying the various characters. And... I'll just say, you know, the original CGI Lion King was, eh, it wasn't that good.
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No, it was early in all that stuff. Remember how, I mean, it's actually very old. We kind of forget that. It's been a while now. It's been a minute.
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Well, this is better. And the movement of the lions, the movement of the animals is better. Also, the facial expressions are better, as Charlie was mentioning at break. You can just tell more what a smile is and what laughter is and so forth. Okay, what works in Mufasa? Well, first of all, Let's get to the obvious. Spectacular visuals. Absolutely spectacular. Very good action scenes with lots of them. I like that. This was at one point it's about midway through and I'm thinking this is an action movie. This really is an action movie. They are flying, and that was pretty cool. And I was thinking, this is a movie that guys can enjoy more, because a lot of these movies aren't. Mufasa, Taka, Rafiki, and Zazu the bird, they're all very good characters. I thought the girl character was just meh. She wasn't really all that interesting. They could have made her quirkier or different or more special, but they just kind of made her straight as a female who the guys both liked. There's a nice leadership message in this. And leadership, you see, John, it's not handed to you because of who you are. You have to earn it. It comes through sacrificing yourself and inspiring others to work together. That's leadership, right? Getting other people to come together or lions, right? Or how about animals? Getting other animals to come together who don't want to work together and having them do great things that they wouldn't do without you leading them. That's leadership.
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Can you get Colorado GOP to watch this?
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No. No.
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I'm sure it's banned at the headquarters. Sorry, I had to throw that in.
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I know, I know. Well, another really good message is the importance of good parents. I like that. Just having such wonderful parents makes a huge difference for the young lion, and it makes a big difference for us. Okay, what doesn't work in Mufasa? Well, first of all, John, this is about 15 minutes too long. Okay. Now notice, I'm not saying it's 45 minutes too long. I've had a number of movies in the last three weeks where I've said basically this has an hour of story in two and a half hours of movie, that kind of thing. It's not that bad.
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It's two hours, right? This one is.
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Yeah, but they could have trimmed it a little here and there. It's just under two hours. It should have been about an hour 40. And just to have that pace, you know, snapping along, bang, bang, bang. Not just the pace of the action, but the pace of the storyline. Keep it going. Don't have it dragged down. At times they did. Just a little bit. Not bad, but a little. Dragged through the middle. Also, the plot. This is a big problem. It's very predictable. I mean, come on. You see the woman lion, the girl lion. What's going to happen? You already know what's going to happen. You know the rest of the story. And it's just kind of like, okay. Right. Because we're all watching these two, and we know what's going to happen because they're setting up how those two are going to be in the Lion King. And that makes it kind of a hard watch when you know exactly what's coming. Timon and Pumbaa. The two characters, they were the comedic characters from the original Lion King and also in the CGI Lion King. They were in this one as well. And they were there along with the storytelling monkey. And let me tell you something. They were awful. They were terrible. I would have paid extra money for the two of them to shut up. I leaned over and I mentioned it to Corey. She was there with me. And she said, they are awful. They're not funny at all. They're distracting. Shut up. They were killing the movie.
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And they made the movie before.
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Right.
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The first one especially.
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There's a little tactic that a lot of these movie makers will make when they're making a movie for kids, but there's going to be some harsh, scary, more adult-like elements in it. And you have those here. The... You know, there are lines who are going to die. There are lines who are going to get killed and so forth. Now, they keep that off screen, but it's still dark. Right. And so what they then do is they come back to Timon and Pumbaa and they lighten it up really quick so that the kids won't be crying and falling apart. That's the whole idea. The problem is they're not funny. They're awful. And it's just like, just shut up. You know, I just kind of wanted a pack of white lions to come in and eat Timon and Pumbaa. I think that would have added a lot to the film. I cannot stress enough how much they hurt this movie. Next. As I said, this is a bit dark for kids. Lots of killing, though it was kept off screen. Now, next. It had good music, especially the first song was pretty good. But it started to all sound the same, John. It all started to sound the same. In the first Lion King, the music was very different. This song is very different from this song. You know, I Can't Wait to be King is nothing like the Circle of Life, which is nothing like. And it was different songs that kept the interest. When the songs all start to sound the same, you get the feeling they're just putting another song in here for a song.
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Right. And that was the feeling I had here. It was still better than Wicked's music, though, because Wicked had like, I think, 150 million songs packed into this. It was just song, song, song, song, song, song, song. Wicked was basically a an opera, basically. This, you know, an opera has virtually no speaking. It's all singing.
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That's why I don't go to one.
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Right. This is the opposite. Well, and this is a musical with only a few songs, but they were all the same. And Wicked only had like one really good song at the end and a couple of other pretty fairly memorable songs. And everything else was boring, not memorable at all. And it had a million of them. The reason I mention Wicked is this is not nearly that bad. Mufasa only has a few songs. It's just that they're not really memorable. And that's kind of a problem. It needed more humor. Once again, they should have subbed out Timon and Pumbaa. They should have had all new characters because apparently these two are threadbare. They just don't have it anymore. Remember when Dumb and Dumber, they made another one that was horrifying? It was awful. Okay, so you have these two incredibly funny characters, and then you try to make another one or make them when they're young, and they just bomb, right? Sometimes a character is threadbare, John. Sometimes you've milked it for all it had. That character. Timon and Pumbaa, they had milked for all they had. They were trying to rehash the same old jokes. It was terrible. Now, also, there wasn't much humor elsewhere in the movie. The other characters were not funny either. I thought the funniest character was probably, you know, they were trying to make the bird funny and he was semi-funny at times. I thought the monkey was the funniest. When the lions first met the monkey and they were going to eat him. The feeky? Yeah, and Rafiki's just kind of looking at them. No, you're not. And he just starts walking casually away. He doesn't even care. It was kind of a funny moment. I liked that. But throughout the movie, there wasn't much humor, and they could have done more. The original Lion King actually had a pretty fair amount of humor. It did. You're right. Right. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes gives Mufasa, get ready, 57%.
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57%.
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He didn't like it. Right. And... You got to think that this is a movie that is, you know, African culture. Now, you know, I don't find that to be right or left wing, but, you know, let's face it. These writers do find it to be left wing and that's why they generally like it. So you would think that would pump up the rating on its own. They didn't like it. They did not like this movie and nobody loved it. I'm going to disagree. I thought this was a pretty good movie. I thought it was a pretty good action flick. I thought the music, while it sounded the same, at least none of it was annoyingly bad or anything like that. And they didn't have too much music. They only had like four or five songs. I'm going to give this three and a half stars.
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That's not bad.
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Yes. For what it's worth, my wife gave it four out of five. Good to know. But I told her I couldn't quite go that high. I don't think it was a really strong movie, but I thought it was a pretty good movie. I was entertained. I enjoyed it. Political three, moral religious three, didn't say a thing. Thank you, Hollywood. Keep that up. And Disney. Yeah, thank you, Disney. Shut up. Are they learning? Yeah, Disney is starting to learn two words. Shut up. Just shut up. It's not hard. It's real easy to do. A lot of us do it. We do it every day. Everybody who's listening to me right now has gone into work and had things you'd like to say to your coworker, you'd like to say to your boss, you'd like to say to that customer. And what are the two words you got to obey, John? Shut up. And Disney's starting to learn those words, and that made Mufasa a better movie, too. Do I recommend going to Mufasa? Yes, I do. I don't recommend it with accolades. I'm not saying, oh, this is going to be life-changing. It's still a good movie. But I think it's a good, fun holiday movie.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie?
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This one I know nothing about. Sonic the Hedgehog? No.
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Are you not big into Sonic the Hedgehog?
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I hate to say it.
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You know, it was pretty fun, actually, at the theater. There were kids wearing Sonic hats all over the place.
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Oh, cool.
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Oh, they were having a ball. It was kind of fun to see a bunch of cute little kids all over the place wearing stuff for a kids' movie that honestly wasn't trying to indoctrinate them into anything, and I kind of liked that. Okay. All right. Well, John, real quick here. Jim Carrey... He did this film because he needed the money. Did you know this? That's what you said last week. Yes, he actually did. And, folks, this is a true story because Jim Carrey had retired. He at least was going to take a long time off from doing movies. And they asked him why he did the movie. And why did you do the movie? He said, because I needed the money. He says, I bought a lot of stuff and I needed the money. That blows my mind. The guy should be a gazillionaire. Right. I mean, think of the money he has made just off. Oh, my gosh. just off all his old stuff being replayed. I have no idea. Anyway, he did this film because he needed the money. Let's see if he earned it in Sonic 3.
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Sonic, you're not ready to face this on your own. For years, he was a prisoner, but not anymore. Now you seek revenge. It's known as the Project Shadow.
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We will need help. And for that, we will need Sonic Team immediately. This is completely different. Everything that mattered to him no longer exists. Okay, Shadow.
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My turn. I can't believe I'm saying this, but we need you-know-who. We need your help.
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When I'm done with this, they will finally pay for what they did to me. And this world will have no escape from what awaits you.
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These two paladins. It is much more than that. He is a superior being.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't want to fight you, but you're not giving me much choice.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sounds like quite a battle there. What do you think, John? Doesn't sound bad. Yeah, it doesn't sound bad. Okay. Well, first, let's list some of the star voices for the characters because there's so many, and I just want to get this out of the way. You've got Ben Schwartz. He is Sonic the Hedgehog. Colleen O'Shaughnessy, she's Tails. Idris Elba, I love him. He's Knuckles. Knuckles is the tough one who was the villain in a previous Sonic movie. And I'll just say this. He's very serious, and he's very funny because of it. He is the funniest character in this movie, in my opinion. The villain, the new villain, Shadow, is played by Keanu Reeves, who is just so good in this because, once again, he's very serious. Kristen Ritter is director Rockwell, while James Marsden and Tika Sumpter, they play Sonic's human adopted parents, Tom and Maddie. All right. Let's dive in. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. They are now a family with parents Tom and Maddie. The superhero trio are still on call with Gunn. That's Guardian Units of Nations. That sounds scary, doesn't it? That sounds very UN-ish. I'm worried about them. I don't know. Well, anyway, they're basically like the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D., right? Except that the Avengers weren't a family like these guys. But now another super-powered hedgehog, Shadow, has been freed from stasis. He had been in stasis. He had been in a liquid that was keeping him from doing anything wrong for decades. Well, a secret villain has arisen, and he wants Shadow to help him get revenge. Now, revenge for what, you say? Well, the loss of someone who meant everything to them both. Now, Gunn calls Sonic and his team to stop Shadow, and Shadow is just too powerful. Hey, it's Keanu Reeves, right? Come on, he's too powerful. And Shadow can teleport back and forth during battle. He can come at you from all different angles. He can't be stopped. Well, desperate to stop Shadow, Sonic must turn to his old nemesis, Dr. Robotnik. Jim Carrey, who has let himself go, let's just say. He's got a big gut now. He's kind of out of shape. And he has a lot of fun with that. Well, Robotnik, for reasons of his own, he agrees to help Sonic. But then he encounters his long-lost granddad, Robotnik. This changes everything. Where will Robotnik's loyalties lie? Well, ultimately, this is a story about how terrible loss in our past can drive us to vengeful destruction in our present. I think this is very applicable for a lot of people's lives. You've seen people with pain in their past take it out on people in their current, right?
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True.
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We've all seen it. Well, can Sonic stop this destruction? And can people heal? And that's the story of Sonic 3. What do you think? Doesn't sound bad. Yeah, not bad at all. All right. Well, what works in Sonic 3? First of all, you got good action and pace through much of the film. Much of the film has a very good pace, certainly to the action because they're whipping around lightning fast and with great special effects. And that's all very impressive. But also there is a pretty good pace to the storyline. And that's important. You have a pretty good amount of humor. You have funny sequences poking fun at Spanish soap operas. I thought that was pretty funny. Robotnik has become addicted to watching Spanish soap operas. You know, you're in love with my twin brother, Raul, or whatever. It's just kind of funny. There's a nice array of central characters. Carrie is hamming it up as usual, doing a good job, while the vocal characters are good. As I said before, Idris Elba's Knuckles, he's the funniest character. He's so serious. You have a nice message about the importance of family and friends, especially after loss. The worst thing you can do after you've gone through terrible loss or gone through a terrible gosh, loss or frustration or something in your life is to allow yourself to be isolated alone. Honestly, that can make you dangerous. And it's much better if you are around others, especially family, but at least friends, people who can guide you back to reality during times like that. Uh, there's an excellent backstory for shadow. Now this, this was the one, the one time of the movie and really it was the one time of this movie or Mufasa. So only once yesterday, uh, Did I find myself actually drawn into the story? This was good. And it's a backstory about Shadow and a young girl who he got to know, not romantically as friends, just as friends. But it was very touching. The only time in the movie I cared about any character. Nothing against the other characters, but I didn't care about them. It didn't matter to me. It was just a matter, well, gee, do they entertain me or not? This, I cared. Well, there's also some snappy dialogue for Carrie and some for Sonic. And that keeps the interest up because you got two pretty good comedic actors, obviously, Carrie and Ben Schwartz. And it's good that they have some good dialogue. You don't want two guys just trying to ham it up with lousy dialogue, but they have some good writing. What doesn't work in Sonic 3? Well, it's once again about 15 minutes too long. They dragged this out just a bit. You got too many characters with everyone needing their scenes. And that is a real problem. As you get to the third, fourth one in these sequels, what you often have is every single character, especially the human ones, they're not going to come back if you don't give them a few special scenes. And I mean, I'm talking about the actors. They won't come back and redo it unless they get their scenes. And the problem is, a lot of times for these stretched out trilogies and so forth, they... They get drawn out, and you've got some really uninteresting scenes as a result, and that happens here. The Tom and Maddie scenes, they're the parents. They're silly. They're boring. They should have been cut out entirely. Quite honestly, you didn't need the characters at all. They were meaningless. You could have had a feeling of family with just the CGI characters. It was bad in that way. The humor. It's for fans of the game and the trilogy or for children, but it's not much for adults. I noticed there were a number of people laughing a lot of times during this movie where I wasn't. And that's when you know that you're in a theater full of people who, this is their thing. They are clued in on this, and you don't care. I mean, I saw the other Sonic movies.
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They're Sonic the Hedgehog groupies. They're groupies. There you go.
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They are, and that's okay if it's kids laughing, because I get that. But it was adults. That I didn't get. I honestly didn't understand. There were a few funny moments. Kerry had one funny line about playing himself. I thought it was very funny. But for the most part, I was kind of like, um... This isn't very well written, but that's okay. People are having fun, so who cares? Why, you know, microanalyze it. It really dragged out the ending, adding one more challenge after another, after another. It's like, okay, okay, let's wrap this puppy up. It's becoming like Lord of the Rings Return of the King. You don't know what that is, but everybody makes fun of Return of the King because it had like a million endings, and it would not end. It would not go away. Somewhere it is still running, trust me. And so Return of the King ending is kind of a way in movie critic ease of saying way too many endings. They kind of did that here. And it really dragged it out. It got old. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes loved this movie. They said it was... Almost all the critics said this is the best of the three. You know what? I'm... I don't know. I thought the first one was a little fresher. But because of the shadow and his backstory, I think I'm going to agree. I think I'm going to agree. I'm not going to give it 88%. That's four and a half stars. No way. But I'm going to give it three and a half.
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Okay.
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Now, for me personally, it was two and a half, but I'm not reviewing this for me. I'm reviewing this for general audiences, people who are going to go to this movie. There are people who are going to go to this, and it's going to be a five because they're Sonic heads, and they've got kids there wearing the little hats. Gosh, they were cute. They were so cute. You had to see it, especially ones with big glasses. So they had the big glasses and the hat on. It was very cute. Um, I'm going to give it three and a half. This is a good movie. The parents can go and they're not going to be too bored. They're going to enjoy it. Political three, more religious. Oh gosh, I gave it two and a half and I don't remember why. I'm sorry. So I'm just going to say two and a half.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Um, a little bit of language.
SPEAKER 07 :
That would be a 2.5.
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Yeah.
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Don't need it.
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Don't need it at all, but very little. It wasn't that much, but yeah, I'll grade it down. I'll nick it down to 2.5. There you go. Do I recommend going to Sonic 3? Yes, I do. It's worth seeing. It's not bad, and I'm certain it's going to set it up for Sonic 4, so you might as well know the storyline. There you go.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Friday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Question of the day. Yesterday, St. Nicholas was born in Patera. What is the country's modern-day name? That would be Turkey. It was Turkish. Turkish.
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Okay.
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Turkish Santa. So in the movie, How the Grinch Stole Christmas, what were the three words used to describe the Grinch?
SPEAKER 09 :
Stink, stank, stunk?
SPEAKER 07 :
Pretty close, yeah. Good job, Andy. Took a shot. Did you know that one, Charlie, at all? It's been so many years. Good job. All right. We do this every year, and Andy's got it all queued up and ready to go. Do you want to play the... Probably the best, you know, the best...
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telling of the Christmas story.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the best telling of the Christmas story ever in any movie.
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I believe so. I really do. And this is, of course, Linus from Charlie Brown Christmas, and he's simply reading scripture here. And this, of course, is the scene that had the makers or the producers or the company or whatever didn't want this thing on air. They said it's too religious. No one's going to like it. It's an all-time classic. Here we go.
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Isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is all about? Sure, Charlie Brown, I can tell you what Christmas is all about. Lights, please. And there were in the same country shepherds, abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them. And they were sore afraid, and the angel said unto them, Fear not, for behold, I bring you tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you. Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, And on earth, peace, goodwill toward men.
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Now he walks back over.
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That's what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown.
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Yes, it is indeed, Linus.
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Yes, it is indeed. Yes, it is. Wonderful. It'll never sell. No one's ever going to want to watch that.
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Greatest story ever told.
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And it's the most popular Christmas movie. you know, certainly TV thing that's ever been done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. When we were kids, you watched it every year.
SPEAKER 09 :
I still do, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, I still watch it every year.
SPEAKER 07 :
I love it. This kid watched it every single year. It's just what you did. Okay, so we've got, of course, next hour, NFL picks. And then, as you would imagine, favorite Christmas movie. So if you've got a favorite Christmas movie, you want to get it sent to us, go ahead. Send us a text message. We can get that added to the list. We've got quite a few already. Yeah, you can call in at that point as well. Yeah, favorite Christmas movies. And it might be a little debate on what is a Christmas movie, but we'll... There always is, John. We'll get into that in the next hour. There always is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Every single year, we have a debate.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. And then, really quick, and I... It's Friday. We don't get into a lot of politics and all of that. But the continuing resolution, there's all sorts of clamoring on Capitol Hill over that and a lot of folks on the left that are mad because the Republicans didn't let them have their way with the first round. And then there were some Republicans that voted the second one down because of the debt limit not being controlled. And essentially Trump wants that thing out there for two years so he can get done what he needs to do, which – I mean, I can kind of understand that on the same token. And this is where there's times I don't agree with Donald Trump. This is one of those. With all of his pushing of Doge and what they're going to try to do to clean up government, why do you need that for two years?
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No, I agree. I don't always agree with Trump. I mean, this isn't a terrible—it's not that big of a deal with me.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm not going to break fellowship over this. No, but do I disagree? At the end of the day, I don't agree with this strategy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Look, John, I mean, you know my biggest disagreement with Trump is entitlements.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
We need to raise the retirement age by at least five years, and we need to scale it up quickly. Why? Because people are living much longer, and this is breaking the bank. I disagree with Trump on entitlements, and I disagree with him here. That's okay. I agree with him on about 99% of things.
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And again, for me, the only reason why I say that is we're pushing our side. We are pushing for Doge to come in and do a lot of cleanup in government when it comes to spending and things along those lines. So if we do what they want to do, and I get it, that can take some time. It won't happen overnight. On the same token, if you've got this hanging over your head where you know you don't have a debt ceiling limit raising of for the next two years, in other words, if you've got to keep that in control, isn't there more incentive to get that done faster then?
SPEAKER 09 :
Agreed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. That's how I would look at it.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, another thing, John, I think people are being too hard on the Speaker of the House.
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I agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because, okay, so.
SPEAKER 06 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
The first thing he was going to try to put through, and by the way, terrible bill. I agree. It needed to be shot down. I'm totally with the big four. The big four are Trump fans. Vivek. Vivek and Elon. Right. Okay. They're the big four now. They are the power mongers. They're the big four, and they came out and said no.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good for them.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I agree. 1,500 pages is far too much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. But however, the big four got in. They put together something and lost 38 Republican votes. Look, guys, when you have no... When you have a couple seats, majority one or two. And by the way, thank you, Matt Gates. Way to go, big fella. When your majority is that tiny, this is how hard it is. And for all those who say, oh, gee, it'd be so easy. Just, you know, get them together. Get them to get on board. You don't understand. Every single one of them has to go back to their districts. And a lot of them are in purple districts. Right. And they have to go back and answer to their people there. People are being way too hard on Johnson.
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They are. Yeah, I don't see this being his issue or his problem. Granted, he's a speaker. He's responsible for getting this done and so on. And again, you'd have to ask, why wasn't this done prior to the election or even shortly thereafter? Well, there's a lot of other things that are going on at that same time in his defense to where we make that sound really easy, but it's not as easy as you think. And there was a Thanksgiving holiday in the midst of all of that.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. One last thing. A lot of people are also saying it's President Musk. He's actually running the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm so tired of hearing that.
SPEAKER 09 :
John, isn't it this simple? The big four simply agree on pretty much everything. They like each other. Who cares?
SPEAKER 07 :
Trump's in charge. I saw some responses to Musk having input upon this spending bill. Good. He is the largest single taxpayer in the country. Yes, he can have a voice at the table as far as I'm concerned.
SPEAKER 09 :
Works for me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Anyways, I'll leave it at that. Golden Eagle Financial is next. Speaking of finances and all the things that we just went through when it comes to the continued resolution, please give Al a call when it comes to your own personal finances and the planning of retirement. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial is your key to ending the year on track. You need to take your required minimum distributions from your IRA investments before the end of the year. And if you have more than one, Al will help you figure out the smartest way to do that. Also, if you plan to convert all or part to Roth, it must be done by December 31st. Al can work with you to determine the ideal amount to convert tax-wise. We'll be right back. Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
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All right, that is it for this first hour. Another full hour coming your way. Again, we're going to do NFL picks and then, of course, your favorite Christmas movies. Text line 307-282-22. You can call in with your favorite movie as well. We'll get into that here in just a few minutes, but don't go anywhere. Hour two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Join John Rush in this engaging episode of Rush to Reason as he delves into the intricacies of navigating life's challenges with courage and determination. With thought-provoking insights, John encourages listeners to face fears and embrace the uncertainties of life, offering grounded advice that echoes the wisdom of past generations. From finding purpose in employment to addressing systemic inequalities, this episode covers it all. The conversation takes a delightful turn as John and his guests dive into the realm of Christmas movies, exploring the timeless classics that evoke a sense of nostalgia and warmth. They discuss how certain films transport us back to cherished childhood moments, reminding us of the simple joys of the holiday season. Whether it's a family tradition or a newfound favorite, the discussion opens up to the magic and personal connections each film brings. As the show progresses, John's team analyzes the latest NFL games, focusing on the Denver Broncos' playoff prospects. With in-depth breakdowns and expert predictions, they highlight the importance of strategic decisions and adaptability on the field. This episode balances insightful life advice with entertaining discussions on beloved holiday traditions and sports alchemy.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two. We'll get NFL picks going here in just a few minutes along with favorite Christmas movies.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you know, and John, Christmas movies, you kind of add a lot of movies to it. And here's what I mean. For every category that we do, everybody puts out movies that they love, just great movies, right? But with Christmas movies, you also... Look, beyond just having a quality movie, you also like movies that take you back, that make you feel like you're still a kid again, unwrapping presents on Christmas morning with the parents, you're back in your childhood. Movies that take you back are also really good Christmas movies. Yeah. Would you agree to that? Yeah, I can argue that. They just kind of give you that feeling like you're home again.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I can't argue that at all. I kind of thought so, too. I think you're right. And again... We're not going to put any stipulations on what you consider a Christmas movie. Maybe it's something growing up, like Andy just said, where you watched it every Christmas because it's what you did as a family. Knock your socks off. We don't care.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or there are movies that are totally not like that, which I also love.
SPEAKER 08 :
Whatever. We don't care. It's sort of a loosey-goosey. So whatever you like for the Christmas end of things and whatever you've done over the years, let us know.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, there are no other holidays that really have their big set of movies. There's no President's Day movies, Easter movies. A little bit Fourth of July, but not much. It's just not the same.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy, Charlie, and Richard Rush joining us now, and you guys are going to do NFL picks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, Richard, you ready? Richard. I'm here. I'm here. There you are. We just heard you. Okay, hey, Richard, before we get into this, let's cue up the music. Last night, the Broncos, they roar out with 21 points right away, only score six the rest of the way. What did the Chargers change? How did they figure him out and shut him down the rest of the way? Because that was... That was stunning. It really was.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it was, Andy. Two things happened. They started putting pressure on Bo Nix, and as any young rookie does, right, any young quarterback especially, they don't handle pressure as well, right? I mean, they can handle it at times, but not great. And then the second thing they did, Andy, is they – We didn't run the ball. Obviously, outside of the questionable officiating and some questionable coaching decisions by Sean Payton, the biggest one was you stopped running the ball when you needed to and outside of you even not punting when you should or punting when you shouldn't have punted and all the other things. You run the ball, right? You actually were doing really well through that. There's no reason that Bo should have ended up with 40 pass attempts. That's just crazy, especially when on Sean Payton's play sheet, it says run it, right? Run the ball. Right. And so that was the biggest thing, Andy. And again, one of the best things to relieve pressure off of your quarterback, right, to get the defense to back off, is to run. Because then you can run play action, have the defense think for a second, and then you can kind of get rid of the ball. So it's unfortunate, Andy, but even with that being said, they still have multiple passes to the playoffs, and all they have to do is win one remaining game. But those are going to be two tough games against the Bengals and the Chiefs. So we'll see how it shakes out, Andy. I've got to say, I'm actually rooting for the Chiefs this weekend, which you will not hear me say very often.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, honestly, I think, first of all, the Broncos are going to the playoffs. They're in. They're going in. And I actually think they're a real threat in the AFC. However... Your best, I'm sorry, your worst play last night, in my opinion, was a play where you guys played great. I thought your defense played Justin Herbert beautifully on the play that the Chargers used to go ahead. You blew in there. You flushed a right-handed quarterback out to his left, making it, you know, so he's running to his left with guys just about to tackle him. And, you know, that means he has no leverage for his throw because he's moving to his left while throwing with his right. And he makes a beautiful throw. One of the best. I'd say it's one of the five best plays in the NFL this year. The play he made under that much heat to throw a perfect pass in the end zone to go ahead. What do you think? I mean, what can you do?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, Walt and I were actually talking about that today. It was funny. I think maybe five or six guys in the league can make that throw, Andy. Yeah. And he was one of them, right? Him, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow maybe. Love. Love could do it. Lamar. Love probably could. Maybe six guys, right, that can make that throw doing what he's doing. And so, again, that's part of the reason why the Broncos needed to run the ball. You played against a guy in Herbert who was getting hot, and he did get hot to finish that game. Right. Didn't have a great, great stat line, but he was getting hot at the right time. And so, again, all the more reason why the Broncos – should have gone for it, run the ball more, take the ball out of his hands. Agreed. And unfortunately, they didn't do that. So, again, fingers crossed. Hopefully it doesn't matter. Hopefully all that matters is for seeding. And you get the seventh seed versus the sixth seed. And, again, we've talked about this for the Broncos. As long as they make the playoffs, and even if they don't, but really, Andy, at this point, if they make the playoffs, it really doesn't matter what happens in the playoffs. You've made it, which means you're ahead of schedule on your rebuild.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and look, on that play, all you can do is tip your hat. I mean, that's all you can do. There were times when Elway did that so many times where all the defense could do is just tip their hat and just say, look, you're more a man than we are. That's all we can do. We can't stop you. I mean, we played perfect defense, and you wrecked us anyway. What are you going to do?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Touche. Sometimes, Andy, in the NFL, the other team just makes another play and you just sort of have to tip your cap. Now, again, there was a few times last night where there was other circumstances that were involved. But, again, at the end of the day, the Broncos let themselves down. coaching, whatever it is. And then, yeah, the Chargers, especially Herbert, just made a few more plays than needed. And honestly, Andy's plays, I don't know if you can stop.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you can't stop that. When he was doing what he was doing. No, no, you can't stop that play. Okay, we've got 15 games. We've got to go through them fast. I'm only going to ask a question on one player, and that's in this game coming up. We start off with the Texans are at the Chiefs. Chiefs only favored by two and a half, which shocks me. I want to talk about C.J. Stroud and just get your opinion. He's in year two. Year one, he was on fire. Year two, you know, it just seems to me he's experiencing what a lot of young quarterbacks do when the entire league has an entire offseason to watch tape.
SPEAKER 10 :
Again, it's one of the single biggest, not mysteries, but biggest things, Andy, is how players in general do, especially quarterbacks from year one to year two. It'll actually be curious what the Broncos and Bo Nicks do next year because, like you say, teams get a full season of tape of how to play that player and kind of what they do to combat it. So, yeah, Andy, I think hopefully this is a more competitive game. Maybe the juices get flowing for the Texans a little bit more because they can come out and have a chance to upset the Chiefs. I just don't see it. It's the Chiefs' last home game of the year until the playoffs, obviously. I doubt they're going to give it up, Andy, so I'm going to go with Casey at home.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'm going to take the Chiefs as well. Okay, let's blow through these. We've got the Steelers are at the Ravens. Ravens favored by 6.5.
SPEAKER 10 :
Um, yeah, Andy, I, this is interesting to me too, cause I don't love that spread. I feel like the Steelers always play the Ravens tough, right? Like that's just, that's just who the Steelers are. Um, and, and that's just how these games tend to go. Um, maybe I could be wrong. Um, and I hope, I hope, actually, I hope I am, I am wrong in this cause I'm going to take the Steelers actually to win, um, mainly cause of Russ. But my thing is, is if the Steelers, well, if the Ravens win, like I said, I hope I'm wrong. Then that means the, The Bengals-Steelers game, the last game of the year, means a lot. Steelers may have to win that game, which I'm all for because that sort of helps the Broncos in a roundabout way. But I'm going to take the Steelers here on the road, Andy, irregardless of the spread.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it's a good game, actually, but I'll take the Ravens at home just barely. Next game, the Giants, all they care about is the top pick. They're on the road at the Falcons. Falcons finally starting their rookie quarterback should be fun. Falcons favored by nine.
SPEAKER 10 :
Andy, I think that Penix will do well here. I think he'll go. I don't know if he's going to go off. It's at home. The Giants are terrible. They are not playing anyone. They're playing for that number one pick for a chance to draft Shador. Yeah, obviously I'm going to go with the Falcons here, Andy, and Pennix is going to have to get up to speed real quick if they want to sneak into the playoffs.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'll take the Falcons. This is the perfect game for a rookie to start against the Giants. Next game, the Lions only favored by 6.5 at the Bears. The Lions are missing so many players on defense. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
They are, Andy, but you talk about a perfect recipe for a rookie. This is the perfect recipe for the Lions because the Bears are just not good. Caleb Williams really needs a makeover. All sorts of things are happening. I won't say too much. I think the Lions will win this. They need to, especially after last week against the Bills.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. I'll take the Lions as well. Okay, here we go. The Browns are on the road at the Bengals. Bengals favored by nine because the Browns are horrible.
SPEAKER 10 :
Browns are horrible. Bengals' defense is horrible. Browns are starting. I think they're D-T-R-I, Dorian Thompson-Robinson. Could be interesting, but the Bengals need a win, obviously, here. Even though this is a divisional game, Andy, I'm going to take the Bengals. I agree. Titans are at the Colts' Colts by three and a half. Again, Andy, Colts need a win, right? This is a divisional game. Should be interesting. I'm going to take Andy here, Andy, just because I think that they'll get back on it. And Anthony Richardson at home maybe is a little different than Anthony Richardson on the road.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. I'll take the Colts as well. Rams are favored only by three at the Jets.
SPEAKER 10 :
Traveling to the East Coast, Andy, it's hard. True. I don't think the Jets are that great of a team, although they seem to have their spurts.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I'll go Rams here. I'll take the Rams. Okay, the Eagles only favored by 3.5 at the Commanders. That's an interesting line, Andy, isn't it?
SPEAKER 10 :
That's intriguing, especially with how the Eagles have looked over the past few weeks. I think it's low. Yeah, I do think it's low, Andy. I don't think that, again, I think Jaden Daniels may get a little bit of a coming welcome to the NFL moment here against Philly. The last time they played Philly, they did not play that well. Yeah, I'll go with the Eagles here on the road, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, the Cardinals are favored by five at the Panthers, but with either of these teams, who shows up?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly. Again, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Or whatever it might be, Andy. It's an interesting – although, again, I like the Panthers, Andy. I like Bryce Young. They're almost playing – the way Bryce Young's playing, he's almost playing it to where the Panthers can draft the best available player versus having to – and I don't think they actually give – they don't have to give the Bears another first-round pick, which is great for them. I will go with the Cardinals here, Andy, just because I think that the Panthers are a little bit devoid of talent right now. But, again, which team shows up? To me, it's almost a coin flip. Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, the Vikings are only favored by three at the Seahawks. Seahawks missing their quarterback. Doesn't three seem a little low?
SPEAKER 10 :
It does, Andy, but, again, the Vikings are just kind of that – they're that team that's played to the strength of their schedule really, really well.
SPEAKER 01 :
True. They keep it close.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I'm going to go with the Vikings here, Andy. I think they probably cover two. Lots of things happen, but ultimately, to me, it's a – I don't know. I just don't know how. I just don't think the Vikings are going to do much in the playoffs, Andy. But the Seahawks here with their backups and such, yeah, not great.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I agree. Vikings should win by 17. I'll take them by 7. Next game, Patriots are against the Bills. Bills favored by 14. Are the Patriots also angling for the top pick?
SPEAKER 10 :
They are Andy, but I think they would settle for number three, which is where they're at now, because they are the type to go get a Travis Hunter, which is a great boom for Drake May and even their defense. I mean, could you imagine Travis Hunter playing receiver, but then also being opposite of Christian Gonzalez? On the defensive side, that's actually really tantalizing if you're New England, even though they do need offensive line, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, you just put them wherever you want them. The guy's just a football player.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. Wherever you need an injection of talent, Andy. So, obviously, I'm going to go with the Bills here, Andy. Maybe not cover the spread. I mean, I think they do, but that spread's awfully big for an NFL game, even though the Patriots are terrible. But I'll go Bills.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'll take the Bills by how much. Depends on how much they care. Next game, the Jags are on the road at the Raiders. Raiders only favored by one and a half. Yuck.
SPEAKER 10 :
This game. Yuck. Again, Raiders, they are going for that number one pick. I mean, they're going to fight just because that's what NFL players do. I think the Jags will get in here, Andy. Can two teams forfeit? Mutually. Or can two teams tie without having to play the game, Andy? Maybe that should be best for all sides. I think so, too. Who are you taking? I just think Mac Jones is better than anything that the Raiders are going to put out there, even with Brock Bowers. Maybe this will be an entertaining game, Andy. We'll see. But I'll go with the Jags on the road.
SPEAKER 07 :
You'll take the Jags. Tell you what, I'll take the Raiders. Why not? Because we're agreeing on all these. Okay, we've got three left. The 49ers are at the Dolphins. Dolphins favored by one. Neither of these teams is very good.
SPEAKER 10 :
They're not, Andy. I'm rooting for the 49ers here because I think they need... Well, they're still sort of in the NFC playoff hunt, not officially eliminated. Similar to the Dolphins. The Dolphins are still technically in the playoff hunt, but a lot needs to go right for them to make it, similar to the Bengals. I'm going to go with the Niners here, Andy, maybe just because I want them to win. But like you said, I think the Dolphins, I just don't think they're very good. And I think the Niners, hopefully getting some of their other guys back, maybe they take advantage of... Nice warm weather down there in Miami.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, why not? I'll take the Niners, too. I don't like either team. Next game, the Buccaneers. Boy, they lit it up last week. They are favored by four going at the Cowboys.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Andy, interesting game here. Obviously, the Buccaneers, I know where my son's going to go because Baker Mayfield's his quarterback. He's actually in the San Jose football playoff, Andy, which is hard to believe. My money's on your son. He sold out last week. I know. Beat old dad last week to get there. The Cowboys are not good, Andy, but they're not terrible either. They're kind of that lower mid-level team. The Buccaneers should come in here. They're in the driver's seat for their division, so they should handily take care of the Cowboys.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. And last game, the Saints are on the road at my Packers. Packers favored by two touchdowns, 14 and a half.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Andy, and they should. I mean, again, I know that's a big number in the NFL these days, but the Saints just aren't very good as much as I know that their interim coaches sort of giving them a jolt. No Alvin Kamara this week, Andy. I'm obviously going to go with your Packers.
SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Hour two, and it is your favorite Christmas songs, Andy, or not songs, favorite Christmas movies. Some of these might be songs, but take it away.
SPEAKER 07 :
Some are. Okay, I'm going to start with an old classic, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Of course, we have to, as every year, listen to it as explained by Frasier Crane. Here we go.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, Rudolph is my favorite guy in the Christmas songs.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. You know, apparently then, Woody, you're unaware that the story of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer is one of the most unrealistic and therefore potentially damaging in all of children's music. It gives them a horribly distorted view of reality.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but you gotta admit, it's easy to whistle.
SPEAKER 04 :
No. Look, I'm serious. You know, first the other reindeer tease and then ostracize him, and then when his abnormality proves of service, they use him. But then, do they allow him to play in their stupid reindeer games? Yes. Oh, no, no, no, no. I know how the song goes. In fact, not only do Donner, Blitzen, et al. not love him and laugh out with glee, but they doubly despise the bulbous-nosed little wimp. Well, I gotta be off. Happy holidays.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's pretty good. Sorry, I always laugh. No, that's pretty good. Gotta play it every year. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, very good, Andy. Oh, Frazier there. Good Republican, Kelsey Grammer. Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. I'm going to go with, well, for my kids, this is their time of year. They love it. I'm going to go with The Grinch Stole Christmas, but I'm going to go with the Benedict Cumberbatch animated version.
SPEAKER 07 :
Ooh. Yeah, he did a good job, didn't he? Very good job.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mr. Cumberbund?
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. I agree. I love him. Good actor.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, you're up. Oh, wow. Well, I won't steal it from Richard. I'll leave that for later. Let's see here. I don't know if you have a clip from it or not, but Bad Santa.
SPEAKER 07 :
Bad Santa. So bad. Okay, this is from the trailer. Hopefully it's semi-clean enough.
SPEAKER 08 :
Keep the dumb button handy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, keep the dumb button handy, Charlie.
SPEAKER 14 :
This holiday season, the naughtiest guy in town just might discover.
SPEAKER 11 :
He's a really sweet kid, isn't he?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I guess so. How to be nice.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good night, Santa. Good night, Mrs. Santa's sister.
SPEAKER 12 :
Billy Bob Thornton. So do you like kids? What do you think, I'm some kind of curber or something?
SPEAKER 20 :
It's me because you're Santa Claus.
SPEAKER 12 :
Huh.
SPEAKER 1 :
Bernie Mac.
SPEAKER 14 :
Get him out of here.
SPEAKER 20 :
What do you mean, get him out of here? I'm a dwarf. So unless you got a forklift handy, maybe you should lend a hand, huh?
SPEAKER 14 :
Got some lip on you, miss it?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah? Well, these lips were on your wife last night.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tony Cox. Bad Santa. I beat up some kids today, but it was for a purpose. Made me feel good about myself.
SPEAKER 20 :
You need many years of therapy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I beat up some kids last night, but it was for a good purpose. I feel good about myself.
SPEAKER 08 :
So bad. So Billy Bob, so bad. Yes. All right, John and Cheyenne, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Go ahead. Can I ask a quick NFL question first? Sure. Why does everybody think Shador Sanders is going to be the next Tom Brady? Well, he's really good. How about that? I think he's going to be the next RG3. A couple of good seasons and a flash in the pan. I just don't see it. He's playing in a system design.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're right, he's playing in a system design form, I agree, but he is just a better quarterback at reading the field than RG3. What do you think, Richard?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, John, I will say this. He's going to... If he's your guy, which he may very well be, or the Raiders guy, he's going to frustrate you with some of the sacks he takes because sometimes he should just get rid of the ball. But he's one of the toughest guys you'll ever see out there. As much as you don't think so, he does play for his team. And, yeah, I mean, he just sees the field so well. Ball placement is just next level. I can see where your hesitations are, and I'm not saying he's a bona fide Tom Brady, but I think that he definitely has a much higher ceiling than RG.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I think he does too. You know what, also, John, he's a lunch pail guy. I think he's got Giant written all over him.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. You know, I've watched a couple of Colorado games this year where he played well. And then I watched that one where they lost to Kansas.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was when they came off of a really big win the week before, and they were all just, in my opinion, too much celebration, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
That happens. Not that college kids ever over-celebrate. Not that college kids ever do that. No, no, no, no, no. Heck no. John, you got any movies?
SPEAKER 09 :
I got two. Real quick, I got two, but first. I can't believe, Andy, that you're choosing Benjamin Cumberbatch over Boris Karloff. Well. And the original Grinch. Richard chose him. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
His kids did.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, Richard chose, yeah. Okay. The original Grinch, I saw that when I was about six.
SPEAKER 07 :
You got to go with the kids there, John. You got to go with the kids. We got to live in the now.
SPEAKER 09 :
You sound like all these people that don't want to change from Daylight Savings.
SPEAKER 08 :
Actually, I like the one with Jim Carrey the best.
SPEAKER 07 :
I like the original cartoon the best. I really do. But go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. All right. My favorite Christmas movie, or one of my favorites because it's got one of my favorite actresses in it, is the original Miracle on 34th Street with Maureen O'Hara. Classic. I mean, great movie. And then the other one I get in debate, because it's always played at Christmas, but you're not sure if it's a Christmas movie, and that's Bing Crosby in Going My Way, which he won an Academy Award for. Oh, I hadn't thought of that. Okay, yeah, sure. Is that a Christmas scene when he makes the kids sing in the choir? Yeah. But is it a Christmas movie or not? It's good enough. What do you think, John?
SPEAKER 08 :
I've never seen it. I haven't seen Miracle on 34th Street either.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, you know, we're never going to let you call in again, but, you know, this one last time, I hope you enjoyed it. No, no, it's good. I like it. I think it works. Heck yeah. That's a good Christmas scene.
SPEAKER 09 :
I've had people. And just remember, last thing. Yeah. To the people who say Die Hard's a Christmas movie, if Die Hard's a Christmas movie, then so is Lethal Weapon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fair enough. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, that works. And speaking of Die Hard, that brings up my next.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, John, appreciate you. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Take care. Okay, speaking of Die Hard, here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
I just love that line. Welcome to the party, pal. That was a great line. The first one's the best.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Heck yeah, it's a Christmas movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's a Christmas party.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's totally a Christmas movie. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yes, Andy. All right, I'm going to go with one. We watch every Christmas Eve, sort of our tradition, which is The Star. I think it's actually on Netflix this year, so for folks who haven't seen it, it's a really good movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, somebody texted in on that one as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, John, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good job on that one, Richard. How about Santa Claus? The one with Tim Allen.
SPEAKER 07 :
The Santa Claus. Good one, good one. Okay, just to anger the both of you, I have to do it every year. Here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, jeez, them stupid Muppets. So cute. Nothing about the Muppets are cute. Annoying, maybe, but not cute.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, I picture you carrying Richard on your shoulder.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. And singing this together. I don't think I even ever let my kids watch the Muppets. Did I, Richard?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, because it was... I can't take it. My kids are listening, and they'll get mad at me and tell me I said a bad word. It's terrible.
SPEAKER 07 :
You see, you never let Richard watch Muppets. This explains Richard's wide array of problems.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't like puppets, period. Richard, you're up. Other than maybe Team America. That's about it. They're marionettes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, not good. And they don't sing quite that well. One that we're going to watch tonight, and actually we went out to the Gaylord to see their little version, Dad, which was really fun, is the Polar Express.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yes. Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's great.
SPEAKER 10 :
By the way, one of the first movies, but it's like one of the most expensive animated movies ever. Because it was like the first time that they essentially did, well, not CGI, but basically they did all the motion-tronic and all the other stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
What do they call that, Charlie?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know what?
SPEAKER 08 :
Motion capture.
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, Hanks was phenomenal in it. Good movie. It was creepy looking, but he was phenomenal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead, John. Good movie. How about Four Christmases? Funny movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. Okay. Here's a movie I'm sure I was not able to get anybody to watch last year, but I'm going to recommend it again. And this is from the trailer of The Holdovers. Here we go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sir, I don't understand. That's glaringly apparent. I can't fail this class. Oh, don't sell yourself short, Mr. Coates. I truly believe that you can.
SPEAKER 14 :
Every year at Barton Academy, students, faculty, and staff depart the campus for a two-week winter break. But there are always an unfortunate few who have nowhere to go for the holidays. They're known as the Holdovers.
SPEAKER 20 :
Mr. Hunnam. Hello, Mary. I heard you got stuck with babysitting duty this year. How'd you manage that?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, he used to be a student, right? Yeah, that's why he knows how to inflict maximum pain on me. I thought all the Nazis were hiding in Argentina. Stifle it, Tully.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, I could go on, but guys, I'm telling you now, it's not for kids. It's an adult Christmas movie, but it is definitely worth seeing. It's a four-star movie, The Holdovers. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
We'll take your advice on it, Andy. Okay. Probably not, but we'll take it for you. All right, I'm going to go with one that maybe this is the one you're holding out for me, Dad, because obviously it's one of my favorites. Many memories. One of the best, which is Christmas Vacation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, good one. Classic. Actually, I watched the whole thing the other night.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's that time of year. You got to.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's just, yeah. And you forget how much stuff is actually in that movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, because you just forget in between watching it. But, yeah, great, great. That one works, Richard. How about, because I watched it as a kid, Frosty the Snowman.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay. Yes, and by the way, here we go.
SPEAKER 01 :
Frosty the Snowman was a jolly happy soul. Now listen to this voice. With a corncob pipe and a button nose and two eyes made out of coal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Harry Como, Charlie said.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, does this take you back to being a kid? Yeah, it does me. Classic. Okay, here we go. All right, here's one that definitely takes you back, and it's Bing Crosby and Holiday Inn singing White Christmas.
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm dreaming of a white Christmas Just like the ones I used to know Where the treetops glisten and children listen to hear sleigh bells in the snow.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it could go on. I love his voice. Best baritone I've ever heard in my life. Gorgeous voice. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, Andy, I'm going to go with Oh, one. I can't think of it. The Christmas Chronicles. Yeah. Which has got Kurt Russell in it. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
I like him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that one's good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, John, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Little Drummer Boy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Definitely a classic. Okay, a movie that only I watch, but I don't care. I like the music from it. Here we go. Anna and the Apocalypse, Hollywood ending.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is me.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it goes on. That was a zombie Christmas movie, and it just had great music. All right, Richard, you're up. It was made in Scotland.
SPEAKER 10 :
In honor of my children, they love this one. And, again, I think it's actually underrated. Home Alone.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is underrated. You're right. Yeah. Great movie, by the way. Go ahead, John. How about Scrooged?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. That was a lot of fun. Okay. This is from a movie that I think is better than the critics thought, and that is Red One. Here we go. Preview.
SPEAKER 05 :
What am I doing here?
SPEAKER 13 :
Last night, Red One, also known as St.
SPEAKER 05 :
Nicholas of Myra, was abducted from the North Pole complex. Are you saying Santa Claus has been kidnapped? Garcia? You can't trust this guy. He's on the list.
SPEAKER 12 :
You don't mean... Yes, that list.
SPEAKER 05 :
NL4. Are you telling me this clown is a level four naughty lister? A level four naughty lister? Oh, is that funny to you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Red one was not bad. I gave it three and a half stars. It's worth seeing Richard. You're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Andy, I actually watched it last weekend, so for those of you that didn't want to go see it in theaters, it is now out on Prime, so you can watch it for free. It wasn't too bad. I mean, some Christians are probably going to be all upset about how they portrayed Santa and some of the other stuff, but it was just a fun movie, right, Andy? Yeah, that's what I mean, just a fun movie. Just a fun movie, there you go. All right, I'm going to go with, I can't believe we haven't said it yet, Elf.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Great. Here, really quick.
SPEAKER 15 :
The neighbors might think, say, what's in this drink?
SPEAKER 07 :
She's in the shower. She doesn't know he's out.
SPEAKER 11 :
I wish I knew how to break the spell.
SPEAKER 07 :
I would keep going because it's really good, but we're running out of time. Go ahead, John. Angry little elf. You're an angry elf. I've played that part too many times.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, got to say Christmas Story.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. Well, that's definitely a classic. Okay, how about this? I'm going to go with White Christmas. Okay. Yeah. Another big one. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is one we actually watched a few weeks ago. It's called Arthur Christmas, and it's kind of like a newer age thing. It's a fun movie. Yeah, it's charming.
SPEAKER 08 :
Arthur Christmas. Okay. How about Office Christmas Party?
SPEAKER 07 :
I did not see that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's pretty funny, actually.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, I'm going to go with Daddy's Home 2. Oh, good one, Andy. It's a Christmas movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did we say A Christmas Story?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, I did.
SPEAKER 10 :
You did? Okay, there. All right, I'm going to go with, oh, we have to say it, Charlie Brown Christmas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yes. That one counts.
SPEAKER 07 :
You bet. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm going to say it just because I hate this movie, and I know a lot of people are not going to like me for saying that, but it's a wonderful life. It's a miserable life. It is a miserable life. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's awful. It's depressing.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. I know. Okay. I am going to go with While You Were Sleeping was actually a Christmas movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, that's a good one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 10 :
Let's see here. Jingle All the Way, Old Arnold.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. That was a fun movie. Hang on. I don't have that on here. Jingle All the Way?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. I said the drummer boy already, didn't I? Yes. How about... This is Charlie's favorite, The Christmas Shoes. Oh, okay. Makes him cry.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, I'm going to go for one people don't think of, Die Hard 2. Okay. That's a Christmas movie. Definitely. Richard, go.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right here, Andy. You did four Christmases, right, Dad? That's what you did? Yeah. Love Actually.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that's on my list. That one's good. A listener mentioned The Bishop's Wife. I'm not sure I've ever seen that one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, I'll do a similar one. The Preacher's Wife.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, that one counts.
SPEAKER 07 :
Richard, go.
SPEAKER 10 :
Christmas with the Cranks.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that one's a good one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
The Family Man.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Isn't that Nicolas Cage? Yeah. Here's one you haven't heard of, Black Adder Christmas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Black Adder Christmas?
SPEAKER 07 :
I've got a clip. We don't have time. Bottom line, they do a reverse of it where he actually learns being bad is the way to go instead of good. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
We did... Oh, let's see here. Andy. Oh, you think it's just The Family Man. Oh, did we do the Silent Night one, right? Is that the other Christmas movie thingy?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a horror movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Silent Night? Well, Violent Night was the horror movie. There you go. Sorry, Violent Night. Yeah, you know, like the... Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was good. Go ahead. How about Jack Frost? Jack Frost. Absolutely. Isn't that with... What's his... Yeah, Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, and by the way, I'm going to do Silent Night. You can do Silent or Violent Night. They're both hacker movies, but Silent Night is one where the guy loses his voice and involves revenge for his family. Richard, you're up. Noel with Anna Kendrick. Oh, I have not seen it. Go ahead, John. Pretty good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let's see. We did Charlie Brown Christmas. I got a list. How about A Christmas Carol?
SPEAKER 07 :
There are many, and that's a good one. I'm going to go Trading Places.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that's on my list. Yeah. Yeah, that one counts.
SPEAKER 07 :
Eddie Murphy, Dan Aykroyd.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're up. Oh, let's see here. You know what, Andy? In honor of my wife, I'm just going to go with any Hallmark movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, fact. You know, that's in honor of all wives. I know this is going to sound sexist, but wives love Hallmark.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, they do. You talk about predictability. Yeah, they're all predictable. What wasn't was Gremlins.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, I love Gremlins. It was so good. Okay, this is going way back, but it won awards. The Apartment. Oh, I don't know that one. Yep, it's very good. Richard, you're up. All right, I'm running out here. Yeah, me too. Fred Claus. Fred Claus. Okay, go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, somebody just texted in Snow Day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay, so there you go. I'm going to go with The Ref, and that's got a lot of foul language, but it's very funny, very funny. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 10 :
Spirited. It's the Ryan Reynolds, Will Ferrell one on Apple TV. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Bad Mom's Christmas.
SPEAKER 07 :
Bad Mom's Christmas.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a good movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's funny and good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did we do Prancer? I don't think we did.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, we did not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Prancer it is. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Klaus, which is another Netflix movie, kind of a different take on Christmas, but it's fun.
SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that, Muppet Christmas Carol, and Die Hard, my wife and I have to see every year, period. I got only three left. That's it? Santa Claus is Coming to Town, Christmas in Connecticut, and Edward Scissorhands. Yeah, we blew through all of them.
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I've got A Year Without Santa somebody texted in about. Tim Burton's A Nightmare Before Christmas. Little Women. Yeah, that's a Christmas film. Let It Snow. The Night, K-N-I-G-H-T, Before Christmas. You said Prancer already, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
Could do that one, too. Christmas With You. Operation Christmas Drop and Deck of the Halls.
SPEAKER 07 :
Real quick, name two that you have to watch every year.
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I'm a rich guy.
You can’t change anyone but yourself. You are the only one that can change you. How? By learning the unique life we have as Christians from using the unique resources God has given us. Starting with our most unique Savior. The world’s most interesting man is Jesus Christ, the anointed Son of God, our Redeemer, the One who walked out of the grave alive, the One Who will come and live in you if you let Him. Jesus Christ had a unique birth and a unique life. He was the God-man. God and man in one body. “I and My Father are one” (John 10:33). Our job is to replicate His life and to re-present Him to our family, friends, and those we influence.
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Our Unique Life - Part 1
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 616 aired on June 18, 2017
Good morning and welcome to the FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes, please, please stay with me. It’s going to be a time of motivation, some inspiration, a
whole lot of education and we do this without any manipulation. Surprise. No games, no
gimmicks, no appeal for money. We’re not asking you for anything. We’re not trying to sell you
anything. We’re not asking you to join up, fess up, give it up - nothing like that. This show is
dedicated to one thing only, to give you some accurate information. Information which I pray
will help you verify and identify God's plan for your life. And if you can do that then you have
the freedom and the privacy to orient and adjust to the plan. It’s up to you because no one can
live your life for you. And by the way,
you cannot change anyone but yourself.
You are the
only one that can change you. You may have friends or children or grandchildren, you're not
going to change them. They have volition just like you have volition and we can only change
ourselves. So how do we change? What do we do? Well, first of all we have to know what our
options are. If you don't know what your options are then you don't know which way to go.
Somebody once asked Yogi Berra when you come to the fork in the road which one do you take?
And Yogi had some kind of funny answer about that. The one less traveled, I guess. But you
know, people don't know what to do sometimes. And so it's very critical you understand your
options, your choices. This is why learning the Word of God, understanding the mind of Christ is
so critical. This is exactly why God gave you a Bible and put the Holy Spirit to live inside of
you, to guide you, to be a mentor, to tutor you. And this is exactly why God gives you a pastor, to
study and teach God's Word and to lead you, as a shepherd leading sheep, in your Christian life.
My prayer is that you will be under a well-qualified pastor, that you will learn God's Word under
a well-qualified pastor and that he will stick to his job of studying and teaching God's Word. The
study that I'd like to begin with you now, a little study I'd like to do for the next few weeks, is a
study entitled “The Unique Life That We Live.” You and I are really unique people and I want to
give you a new fresh appreciation for God's grace provisions if you stick with me. That's what
this study is designed to do, give you a fresh appreciation for God's grace provisions. Also, I
hope to give you a new self perspective. In other words, a new sense of your worth in God's
eyes. And hopefully give you a view of the impact that you should have in the arena of
contention that we call earth. So I may review some things you already know and I could remind
you of what you might have forgotten or hopefully I'll reinforce what your pastor has already
taught you. I want to study The Unique Life That We Live. And so what about this word unique?
I have a few weird friends that are rather unique but that's not the thing I'm talking about. As an
adjective this word means solitary in type or characteristics or having no equal or being unusual.
So what I want to develop for you over the next few courses of this radio show is this unique life
we live as believers in the devil’s world. Saying that you are a bit unusual may be funny and you
may know that to be a fact but the truth is you have no equal. And I'm not being narcissistic but
it's a true doctrinal statement from the Word of God. It's not a reference to your unique church or
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your unique ministry. It’s a reference to you. You are a unique individual. You have unique
assets, you live in a unique time, you have a unique opportunity in your life in that time, you face
unique challenges that no one's ever faced before, and you have a unique future. But before we
can look at any of that we have to see first and foremost the most unique Savior in the world.
Perhaps your pastor has covered His birth for you around Easter and you looked at that, you
examined that. You saw the life and work of the Lord Jesus Christ and it's quite an exhaustive
study if you get into it. My pastor, my own pastor has been teaching the life of Christ for over
one thousand hours right now. And, by the way, that's all available free of charge on MP3 or
DVD. This is how I study. I keep up with it. A thousand plus hours on the life of Christ. You say
how could anybody study a thousand hours on one subject? That’s not hard, my friend, when
you're looking at the life of the Lord Jesus Christ. And we benefit from those insights, from the
illustrations that my pastor and your pastor teaches us. So let me skim over a few things, I bet
you remember these things, before we get into the meat of the study. Our Lord Jesus Christ had a
unique birth, He had a unique life and He had a unique death. So the birth of Christ fulfilled
numerous Old Testament Scriptures. You remember the prophecies given centuries before He
even walked on this planet. We were first introduced to the fallen angel Lucifer or Satan, a.k.a.
we know him as the devil, in the form of a serpent who sought to use Eve's arrogance as an
attempt to vindicate his own sinful actions in eternity past. So let me give you a few principles
here. Here's the first one. Satan used the beauty of a snake. The Bible says that he
“was more
subtle than any beast of the field,”
and he used that beauty to arouse the curiosity of the woman
and deceived her by baiting her very own arrogance. And point two, she took the bait, Genesis
3:6, and she deliberately disobeyed God's mandate that was given to Adam in Genesis 3:15 and
17, don't eat from that tree, anything else you can eat, that one tree don't eat from it. And point
three, she was able to convince Adam to partake of the same fruit that had been forbidden, much
to Adam's regret. Point four, sin uncovers you, sin exposes you to the guilt and the shame. Sin
exposes you to the elements. When they ate of that fruit the Bible says in Genesis 3:7,
“their
eyes were opened and they knew they were naked.”
Prior to that they didn't even know they were
naked, they had no guilt, they weren’t thinking about the elements. So point five, this deliberate
interference by the devil, a.k.a. Satan, resulted in a curse being placed on that once beautiful
serpent and condemning that serpent to a life of eating dust. In Genesis 3:14,
“dust shalt thou eat
all the days of thy life.”
And that's a metaphor for crawling on his stomach from now till the end
of time as we know it and you know it. Most people if they see a snake they’re going to kill it.
There are a few snake lovers and they don't want to hurt them and I understand that also. But to
me, depends on what kind of snake it is. I see a lot of snakes when I'm fishing and I don't mess
with them. I give them plenty of room. Eve would have been better off not to mess with that
snake. Point six, by means of Adam’s rebellion the entire human race (me and you) we’re all
condemned as well. Where did I get that? Romans 5:12,
“By one man sin entered into the world
and death by sin and so death has now passed to all men, for all have sinned.”
And point seven,
our redemption was promised by means of a prophetic judgment on Satan by God in Genesis
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3:15. This is, in Genesis 3:15, the first promise of a Redeemer. In Genesis 3:15,
“And I will put
enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. And he shall bruise thy
head, and you shall bruise his heel.”
The seed refers to satanic offsprings, unbelievers. John 8:44
says,
“You're of your father the devil, in the lust of your father you’re going to do. He was a
murderer from the beginning, he did not abide in the truth because there's no truth in him. When
he speaks a lie he speaks of his own for he's a liar and the father of lies.”
Her seed, well that
refers to all of humanity beginning with Cain and eventually all humanity into which our Lord
Jesus Christ came - He was inserted. Why? For the express purpose of redeeming me, redeeming
you, purchasing us out of the slave market of sin. Listen to Romans 3:24-26,
“being justified
freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
[there’s the redemption]
who
God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in His blood to declare His righteousness for
the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God, and to declare
[verse 26 of
Romans 3]
I say at this time His righteousness that He might be just and the justifier of those
who believe in Jesus.”
So point ten, the stage was set for the entrance of a redeemer, one who
would eliminate the argument of Satan once and for all, as well as satisfy the justice of God in
regards to man's fallen state. Point eleven, His birth was unique in the fact there was no human
copulation involved. Yes, she was engaged to be married to Joseph but there was no sex.
Matthew 1:18,
“...she was found with child of the Holy Spirit”
which was a fulfillment of Isaiah
7:14. Isaiah 7:14 says,
“Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall
conceive and bear a son, and shall call His name Emmanuel.”
So point twelve, His unique birth
caused a national crisis. A few weeks or months later the Magi showed up. You know, if they saw
the star at the moment of His birth, it would've taken them some time to arrive in Jerusalem.
Matthew 2:1 talks about these Persian Magi or magicians or scientists. But they were looking for
the king of the Jews. And Herod who was the king at that time had been selected by the Roman
Senate to be king of the Jews himself and he was even an adopted Jewish convert, you know, just
to keep the peace. Really he was an Edomite and he rebuilt the Jewish Temple. And when the
Phoenician Magi came to Bethlehem they were looking or actually they came to Jerusalem then
he directed them to Bethlehem with instructions that they should report back where this new king
of the Jews was so he could go and worship him too. That was not his real intention. Matthew
2:13 says his real intention was to kill Him. And this information prompted Joseph to take his
family and get out of Dodge. Joseph and Mary and baby Jesus moved to Egypt until Herod died,
Matthew 2:15. Herod, when he learned that the wise men took off and didn't come back and
didn't report back to him, he was so angry and so upset that he went to Bethlehem and he killed
every child from two years old and younger. That's what a wicked evil man Herod was. Once
they returned from Egypt, after Herod died, they settled in Nazareth. Thus Jesus our Lord and
Savior was known as a Nazarene in Matthew 2:23. So that's His unique birth. What about His
unique life? Remember, this was not an ordinary man.
This was the God-man. God and man in
one body forever - hypostatic union theologians call it.
God-man. The God-man. John 10:30,
“I and My Father are one.”
John 10:33,
“The Jews answered Him saying, ‘For a good work we
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stone you not, but for blasphemy because you being a man make yourself God.’”
In John 8:58,
“...before Adam was, I am!”
In John 1:1,
“In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with
God and the Word was God.”
Jesus Christ was tempted by Satan during His evidence testing. He
had a unique life. Before He began His ministry in Matthew 4 He was led by the Holy Spirit into
the wilderness to be tested. You should read Matthew 4:1-4 and see how He handled it because
every test that Satan threw at Him, our Savior quoted Scripture. And there is your secret to
passing the test. Using the faith-rest drill means knowing Scripture. This is why it says,
“Study to
show thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word
of truth.”
So He was tempted by Satan during His evidence testing. And, by the way, if you have
any intention of growing to be a mature believer, you will be tested as well.
You will go through
evidence testing.
You will have to take the witness stand alone and demonstrate that you are
faithful. And so our Lord never sinned during His entire time on this infested planet. In spite of
all the hateful, vindictive people He encountered in the area of organized religion He never
sinned. Never. And thus in 2 Corinthians 5:21,
“He hath made Him
[He being God]
to be sin for
us, the One who knew no sin so that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.”
So in
three short years, this is what's amazing, He took a group of dumb fishermen (like me, a dumb
fisherman), tax collectors and others and made them world changers. They rocked their world.
Think about this. Imagine if He took a group of dumb fishermen, a few tax collectors and some
others, imagine what He could do with you with your intellect, with your ability. Think about it.
But
you’ve got to be willing to follow Him.
He told Peter,
“Follow Me and I will make you
fishers of men.”
Whatever it was that was about Him which is so unique, Peter walked away
from the family business and followed Jesus and so did Peter's brother, Andrew. Jesus Christ our
Lord has a unique priesthood the Bible says. In Hebrews 7:21-22 the Bible says He's the first and
the only high priest in all of human history who was filled with the Holy Spirit. And the Bible
says He's the only high priest that's ever been resurrected from the dead. He's the only high priest
who ever offered His own self as a sacrifice for the sin of the people. And He is the only high
priest that can provide eternal life for the entire human race beginning with you because He
makes intercession for us. Intercession for us as a high priest every day. Hebrews 7:25,
“Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since
He always lives to make intercession for them. For such a high priest was fitting for us - One
who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners and has become higher than the
heavens.”
Yes, He’s seated at the right hand of the Father. That's His unique life. His unique
birth, His unique life, the God-man, our high priest. And what about some of the unique things
He did while He was on this planet? I mean I can't list them all but let's start with this one - He
walked on water. Not many people can walk on water. I mean there's a few drunks that think they
can until they drown but Jesus walked on water. In Matthew 14:22,
“Immediately, He made the
disciples get into the boat and go ahead of Him to the other side while He sent the crowds away.
And after He had sent the crowds away, He went up on the mountain by Himself to pray. And
when it was evening, He was alone and the boat was already a long distance from the land
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battered by the waves
[they were rowing their hearts out]
the wind was contrary
[probably
blowing in their face and they were rowing and rowing, they didn't have an outboard motor].
And
in the fourth watch of the night, Christ came to them walking on the sea. And when the disciples
saw Him walking on the sea, they were terrified and they said, ’It’s a ghost!’ And they cried out
in fear. But immediately Jesus spoke to them and said, ‘Take courage. It’s I. Don’t be afraid.’”
Yes, He walked on water. In Matthew 8:26 He calmed a stormy sea with one word - stop. All He
had to say was stop and all of the Sea of Galilee became slick as glass. He raised the dead. In
Mark 5:35-42,
“While Jesus was speaking some people came from the house of Jairus
[the
synagogue leader]
and they said, ‘Your daughter is dead,’ they said, ‘why bother the Teacher
anymore?’ Overhearing what they said, Jesus told him, ‘Don't be afraid; just believe.’”
See
Jairus had gone to the Lord to try to get Him to come and heal his daughter and they all said she's
dead, don't bother Him anymore, she's dead. Jesus said don't be afraid, just believe Me.
“He
didn't let anyone follow Him, except Peter, James and John the brother of James. And when they
came to the home of the synagogue leader, Jesus saw a commotion with people crying and
wailing. He went in and said to them, ‘Why all the crying? Why all the wailing? The child is not
dead, just asleep.’ And they laughed at Him. So He asked them all to leave and He took the
child's father and mother and the disciples were with Him and they went into where the child
was. And He took her by the hand and He said to her, ‘Little girl, I say to you, get up.’ And
immediately she stood and began to walk. She was twelve years old, and at this they were
completely astonished. He gave strict orders not to tell anybody about this and to give her
something to eat.”
You know that wasn't the only person He raised from the dead. He raised
Lazarus from the dead and in John 11:38-44,
“Then Jesus again groaning in Himself came to the
tomb and it was a cave and a stone lay against it and Jesus said, ‘Take away that stone,’ and
Martha, the sister of Lazarus said, ‘Lord it's been long enough now he's going to stink. There's a
stench in there. He's been dead four days.’ Jesus said, ‘Did I not say to you that if you would
believe in Me, you would see the glory of God?’ And they took away the stone from the place
where he was lying and Jesus lifted His eyes and said, ‘Father I thank you that You hear Me. And
I know that You always hear Me, but because of the people that are standing by, I said this so
that they may believe You sent Me.’ And when He said these things, He cried with a loud voice,
‘Lazarus, come forth!’ And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with grave clothes.
His face was wrapped with a cloth. And Jesus said to them, ‘Let him loose and let him go.’”
I
want you to remember
He will raise you from the dead also.
First Thessalonians 4:16 says,
“...
the dead in Christ shall rise first.”
I conducted the funeral this week for a wonderful saint in the
town of Memphis, Tennessee. I told the people in the attendance there, ‘She's not dead. She
simply left this sin infected body.’ And He will raise you, same way. You’ve got to leave this
body. It won’t work in heaven. You've got to get a new body. A resurrected body like His. You
know, He fed the masses with just five loaves of bread and two fish - five thousand people -
heck, the quick burger places can’t do that (Matthew 14:19). If you showed up with five
thousand people on a bunch of buses they’d have a heart attack and shut the place down. Jesus
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fed them all. Speaking of fish, one of my favorite miracles is found in John 21:4-11, where they
caught 153 fish in the net. It was the third time they sighted Jesus after His resurrection.
“And it
was early in the morning and Jesus was on the shore and the disciples didn't recognize Him and
He called them. He said, ‘Friends, have you caught anything?’ And they yelled back, ‘Nope,
nope, nothing.’ And He said, ‘Well throw your net on the right side of the boat and you'll find
some.’ When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.
And then the disciples, whom Jesus loved, said to Peter, ‘It's the Lord!’ And he wrapped himself
in his outer garment. Well, as soon as Simon Peter heard a guy say it's the Lord, he wrapped his
outer garment around himself because he took it off
[I guess he was fishing in his underwear or
something]
and he jumped off the boat and started swimming to Jesus. The other disciples
followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish. They were not far from the shore, maybe one
hundred yards
[the Bible says]
and when they landed they saw fire with burning coals and it had
fish on it and some bread and Jesus said, ‘Bring some of those fish you just caught.’ And Simon
Peter climbed back into the boat and dragged the net ashore himself. It was full of large fish, 153
so many so but the net was not even torn.”
I like to catch fish. I find it interesting that they said
how many fish they caught - 153 - that’s a fisherman for you. What an amazing Lord we have. In
all, total, He performed more than forty miracles during His time on this earth. I would say He is
the unique person. There is some kind of beer commercial on television, you know, a beverage
commercial that claims to introduce the world's most interesting man. The most interesting man
in the world is an advertising campaign set up by Dos Equis - some brand of beer, Dos Equis.
And then the ad features the world's most interesting man, a bearded, debonair gentleman with a
voiceover that is intended to be humorous and outrageous. Not even close. An actor is not the
world's most interesting man.
The world's most interesting man is Jesus the anointed Son of
God, the Savior of the world, our Redeemer, the One who walked out of the grave alive, the
One who will come and live in you if you let Him.
Paul said,
“Christ in you the hope of glory.”
The most amazing thing in the world is that Jesus will live in you. When I accepted Christ as my
Savior, I prayed a simple prayer. I simply asked God to save me. And I was told,
“Jesus stands at
the door and He knocks if any man hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in unto him.”
I didn't understand what the verse meant but I knew I wanted to have a relationship with Christ
and I asked Him to come into my life and save me. I didn’t feel it. I mean, I didn't see the lights
flicker or I didn't hear any tambourines, but it happened. Christ lives in me. And if you are
Christian, He lives in you. Our job is to replicate His life and to re-present Him to our family, to
our friends. How do we do that? By acquiring the mind of Christ, beginning to think like He
thought. We don’t have to look like Him. We just think like Him. That’s why the Bible says,
“Let
this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who thought it not robbery to be equal with
God made Himself of no reputation and humbled Himself all the way to the cross.”
What an
amazing Savior we have. What an amazing God we have. Our God, our Savior, our Redeemer,
our justifier, our Lord - Jesus Christ. He is the most unique man. He is the most unique man in
the history of the world. If you haven't met Him and if you don't know Him, you are missing out.
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You want to be a name dropper? You drop that name and see what happens. Tell somebody you
met some celebrity and they roll their eyes, but tell somebody that you met Christ and they look
at you like you are weird. He’s there and He's waiting for an appointment with you. Ask Him.
He's right there. I hope you’ll join me next week, same time, same place. Until then, this is your
host Rick Hughes saying thank you for listening to the FLOT Line.
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All right. So first and foremost, a Florida man crashed into a ditch, blew three times the legal limit, and then offered police just $100 to take him home. I don't think that's how that works, though. And again, it's Sheriff Grady Judd. Some of them sheriffs down there, I'm going to tell you what, they have very eventful weeks. You know what I mean? So apparently officers arrived. They found a driver crashed into a ditch. Okay. Breathalyzer said that he was in enhanced DUI territory. That's when somebody gets caught with a blood alcohol content of 0.15 or higher. And so, you know, he crashed a car in a ditch. You don't have any idea where you are. So then the guy, I mean, he... gave officers, offered them $100 in cash to just take him home. And they're like, you know, that's another charge, right? You cannot bribe a cop. That's actually like a criminal offense. So they ended up taking him. He went to jail. He's in the pokey and he's got a slew of charges against him. Thankfully, no one was killed. But my word. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. You can listen coast to coast. Channel 347, DirecTV. We're at Rumble. We're at X. Yes, that was Wonderful Christmas Time by Paul McCartney. A song, apparently, which half of you out there hate. Because I get email every single time we play it. People who are like, I love that song. And others who are like, why do you play the worst song? It's not Christmas until that song plays. So it's played. So welcome back. All right. So we've been heavy hitters. into politics this is the last show of the year we need to ease it on down to christmasville we got to go down and like chill get ready to celebrate the birth of our lord and savior jesus christ can i get an amen cane and cane is burnt what do you got over there tell the folks what you're doing because they can't see i'm simply warming i'm simply warming frankincense So this is what one of the Magi brought Jesus.
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One of the three gifts.
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We talk about this every year, and I'm fascinated. Because I always tell my kids, Jesus only got three presents. You ain't better than Jesus. You get three. And I've never given him frankincense, because that's an expensive gift. That's another thing I want to talk about. So let's just get into it, because our next guest, Cain, you've known this gentleman for quite some time. Hello. You highly recommend him.
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I do.
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Yes. Our friend John Lanius, who is in – he's with Sheehan Wellness, and he also is the director of community outreach for the Special Operations Charity Network. And they do a lot of really great work, and we have their URL. We'll put all that in the bottom. So he's also – like a potions master. And I've said this before, but he legit is. I actually advertise myself as that. And he works with the VA to help veterans because this was a big fight in Congress this year with PTSD and using incense and other things to help our veterans, maybe a little bit more non-traditional or more traditional, whatever way you look at it. But he now joins us via Skype. John, it's so good to see you. Thank you for joining us. Now, set it straight for me, because if I were to give my kids some frankincense, they would be like, what is this? But that's actually a pretty bougie gift. It was a bougie gift back in the day.
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Yeah, so frankincense actually is worth more than its weight in gold, because it was healing, and it would calm the mind. It would help the body in healing. And so the fact that Jesus got the gift of frankincense, myrrh, and gold represents a number of things. Number one, it signifies Jesus as the King of Kings. And so when you give your kids frankincense, you could basically be telling them that they're better than everybody else, if you want, if you want.
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I don't know. They've been pretty – they've been all right this year. I mean, I've got to think about it. So it's like the Louis Vuitton of, like, incense, like frankincense and myrrh. I always wonder if I'm saying that right. Myrrh?
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Myrrh? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's correct. Actually, there's 19 different varieties of frankincense. There's about seven different varieties of myrrh, and so each one does a little bit different. So one of the ones that's considered the finest is Boswellia sacra, obviously from the Latin sacred. You've got Ferrara, you've got Socotra, you've got a number of other ones, but each one does a little bit different. And how it transforms the quality of our consciousness. And that is exactly what you're tapping into about the VA and the fact that people get PTSD.
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Fragrance is huge. Fragrance is huge with that. I mean, because you can smell something and it takes you somewhere.
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Yeah. Well, what it does is that it accesses the limbic system. And the limbic system is where we control our emotions and how we regulate and our memories. And so when the VA talks about 7% of veterans will experience PTSD at some point in their lives, and that number increases to 29% for veterans of operations, Iraqi freedom and enduring freedom. We actually use fragrance at the Special Operations Charity Network as part of the Find Your Tribe initiative to really have people find themselves again before the trauma. And so the easiest way to explain this is that imagine when you smell your favorite flower or when you smell fresh bread, how it relaxes you, how it re-centers you. So we are taking these programs as a part of the Find Your Tribe initiative to empowering our heroes and their families for lasting change.
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That's awesome. We're talking with our friend, John, John Lanius. I always want to say his name and stress the different syllable. But he's I mean, he's a friend of the show, has been for quite some time. He's super knowledgeable about all of this stuff. And you can check out the Special Operations Charity Network as well. We'll have the URL down there and we'll put it up on the video on YouTube as well. This because I have a lot of friends who who were our combat veterans and they were lobbying Congress to whether it was. controlled psychedelic uses, which no one's out there advocating for me to go and drop acid and do all these drugs and that. But there's a lot of studies that have shown that for those vets who really saw some stuff and then had some trouble adjusting when they came back, that even things like this have all helped them to re-acclimate back into civilian life. But I don't understand why that's such a fight. Why are so many people seemingly resistant to that? Is it just because of the stereotypes?
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Well, I think it is that, but it's also that when you talk about people going out and doing a hero dose of psychedelics, it really does change the brain chemistry. And so, for example, Mark Quinn, our director of programs nationwide, testified in support of this in Missouri. I am not personally advocating for psychedelics. What I'm saying is that if we are doing the research... And when we're doing this in a controlled way, we can balance both psychedelics and psychotropics. So as a quick example, psychotropics can be things like alcohol. It can be things like frankincense and basically all the different things in nature. that actually changed the quality of our consciousness. And so, you know, balancing the two of these things and doing this under very strict regulation, I think is very interesting in that I'm not for anybody just going out into the woods and eating 10 pounds of mushrooms. But what I am interested in is how can we use this to, again, to return people back before the trauma. So some of the work that we do in trauma mindfulness and healthy coping and mental well-being, these are all part of the programs that we do at the Special Operations Charity Network. Things like fishing programs, cycling programs, competitive shooting programs. And so if we're looking holistically at how we're able to return ourselves to a state of calmness and centeredness, this is what we're doing for our veterans and for our heroes that are really have made a huge difference and have seen things that most people never want to talk about or even see ever again.
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You just gave me a great segue. So speaking of things that people have seen, so we've been talking about drones for how long weeks now? And I was really praying for aliens, John, really praying for aliens. So Cain tells me, and I need to hear about this story. Your grandfather was in World War II and he saw some stuff, orbs and things.
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Yeah, so my grandfather was on the USS Forrester. And they started in the North Atlantic, but then actually found themselves in the South Pacific. And so I just wrote a book called Love and Letters in World War II, which I'm looking for a publisher. But one of the chapters of the book... Wrote around the fact that my grandfather had tons of handwritten notes on experiencing orbs in the South Pacific during the war. And officially, they were allowed to document them. They were allowed to see them. They would fly around the ship. It's exactly what we're seeing today. Exactly what we're seeing today. That's wild. Yeah. And they were not allowed to fire on them unless they attacked the ship. Now, this never happened. But here's what's interesting is that we have seen this same phenomenon going back all the way even to World War I and before. Now, obviously, the further back we go, you know, the reports get a little strange. But I wish my book was out right now because he's describing things better than I think anyone's able to describe them now, even with their cell phone cameras.
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Wow. And what's amazing to me is that you're saying it's the exact same thing now as what they saw in World War II. And there are so many accounts of that. So that's almost like an unchanging technology. It was so strange to us back then. We had nowhere near that capability back in World War II. We still technically don't really know, especially for some of the stuff that just goes from the sky right to the sea. That's wild. That, to me, that's really hard to explain. Back then when your grandfather was in the military, you can't really say, oh, that's just our government. We didn't have that capability. No government had that capability at the time.
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Right. Well, and also the fact that they were isolated. I mean, they're in the South Pacific, like not near shore. And they're seeing these things and they're documenting them. And it's not just him. I mean, I've got notes from his other shipmates. And so it's just very interesting about what's happening in that, do we know what's going on? Do we not know what's going on? Is this something that's been with us for thousands of years? I mean, when you talk about ancient aliens... I know you love that, but here's the question. Is this a phenomenon that's been a part of Earth forever and we're now just seeing it? Are these actual intelligences? So who knows? But again, I think what's important to take from this is the fact that this isn't a new phenomenon. This is something that goes back thousands of years. And could it be ancient aliens? Maybe. Could it be something else? Probably. Who knows?
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They seem very courteous if they're if it is ancient aliens and they're just staying out of our business. That's a very courteous thing to do. Right. It feels like they're not malevolent in that way.
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Right. Well, so what we've done is that we've we've taken military psychedelics and orbs and put them all into a thing around Christmas. We've got the bright lights. We've got things.
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God bless America. I love it. Merry Christmas. This is great. I have to say before I let you go, John, I can smell the frankincense. You always think that incense is supposed to, like it's going to smell hippie-ish. It smells like soap. Like it smells like somebody just took a nice bath. It's like a nice powdery kind of... Yeah, it's almost like a perfume house, like nice powder parfum. That's what it smells like, right?
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It's very nice. It's beautiful, and it totally calms you, which I believe connects you to the divine. And so speaking of divine, I've got a free gift for any of your listeners. who reaches out to SheehanWellness.com and sends me a note. Also, if you go to SpecOpsCharity.com, that's SpecOpsCharity.com, learn more about the Special Operations Charity Network, all of our programs, and we invite you to donate and really be a part of our huge programs in 2025 because we're out to make a huge positive difference for our veterans.
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Love what it is that you all do. And we got the Sheehan Wellness right there as well. John, we so appreciate you coming on and sharing your insight with us every year. You do such a great job. And I know, and by the way, they're also on Twitter. So it's at Sheehan Wellness on Twitter as well. John Lanius, always so good to see you, my friend. God bless you. Merry Christmas to you. Thank you so much for giving us some of your time today and your expertise. It's always so insightful.
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Thank you, Dan. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Have a great new year.
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American Airlines, an American Airlines plane flooded with water mid-flight. Bewildering the travelers. That would be kind of freaky, though, right? I got to say, I'd be a little weirded out. It was International Business Times. Apparently, it started in the rear bathroom. That sounds gross. Just going to say it sounds a little nasty. It started in the rear bathroom and then it flooded the plane. It was during a flight from Dallas to Minneapolis. Water streamed down the aisle. That's toilet water. You know that, right? It's poo water. That's nasty. They said the inflate movie was Titanic. They were joking. So they ended up having to land. Apparently, there was another flight from Dallas to Madrid in August where they had an overflowing bathroom and they had to land. What is with the stuff coming out of doubt? I mean, I know it's a hub, but my gosh. I'm a little nervous. A lickable lollipop invention lets you taste in virtual reality. This looks gross. It's like a VR experience, and you can taste in virtual environments. The interface simulates up to nine flavors. And can be combined with smells to make the sensation of taste feel lifelike. Or, now hear me out, you could just like eat a sucker. I don't want to, this is, people are trying so hard to recreate real experiences in the digital. When you could just have a real experience, you know. I don't get that. Sidebar. I hate doing things in games. That's why I hate Fallout. I hate Fallout. Sorry. I do. Because you have to do basic day-to-day things. I have to eat. I have to do laundry. You don't have to do laundry. We have to do basic chores. I don't want to do basic chores in games. Right? I don't want to do that. That's why I hate this stuff. Cows fell out of a trailer on a turnpike. Oh, are they okay? They were okay. They were just, they went to the ditch and started eating grass and straw. So they were okay. A seven foot tall 2025 numerals. Those arrived in Times Square ahead of New Year's Eve. I don't know who would go to Times Square for New Year's Eve. I don't like massive crowds. I don't like, like, screaming and all the drunk people. I could not even imagine being there with the overload from the lights, like a sensory overload. And then it all smells like piss and pretzels anyway up there. And gas. I just, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. That's just like way too much, man. Way too much. And let's see. Last but not least. Oh, I think I ran out. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I got one more. The Stranger Things final season finally finished filming. They're all grown up now, basically, right? I don't know what I think about it. No, I mean, I liked them as little kids. As long as they can keep that kitsch feeling, I think it'll be cool.
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I wish that the people listening to the simulcast or watching the simulcast were playing that This Christmas by Donny Hathaway, which is the other great Christmas song. You know, I mean, you get the bells in there. You get that beat in there. Welcome back. All right. Last show of the year. So we have a tradition in what we do. We always come up with band names every year, as you know. Just random, different, everyday things that stick out to us. And we're like, you know, that actually would be a great band name. And this year's list is... Pretty exceptional, I gotta say. So Kane first. We got two things for you. First, I'm going to hand it over to you. Top 10 fictional band names.
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That is correct. And then we will go to... Steve has compiled this because I think it was Steve that really drove this, to be honest with you. Because you often are not happy with how things are and you would then tell us what you would rather do instead of those things. So that's going to be an interesting list, which is going to come up after this. But of course, we do have the drum rolls, don't we, Steve? Here we go. All right. Here we go. I got a real one. You got a real one? Oh, wow. All right, cut ten. Number ten of these, by the way, top ten fictional band names mentioned on The Dana Show inadvertently in 2024. Suicide Pod. Suicide Pod.
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Sounds like an XS song. Suicide Pod.
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I'd go see him. Dirty Burglar.
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That sounds... Dirty burglar. Number eight.
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Hillbilly Hessians. I love that one. Hillbilly Hessians. I can just imagine seeing these people on stage.
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It's like a bluegrass cover of German songs. Go ahead.
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Number seven, hippo permission.
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Okay.
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Hippo permission.
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Yeah.
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Number six, murder puppies.
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I love it. It's like meat puppets, but with a murder.
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Exactly. Murder puppies. Number five, alpha brats.
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That's so good. Alpha brats. It's like an electro DJ band.
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It's the voice of a new generation.
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Yeah.
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Number four, Gasoline Enema.
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It's like a Kentucky Headhunter cover band. Love it.
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Gasoline Enema. Could have been a song, but a great band. Number three, Junkyard Gators.
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Girl!
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Remember that story.
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A Skinner cover band. Woo!
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We had about Florida.
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Oh, yeah.
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Number two, Aggressive Baptism.
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Ooh, that's like a prog hymn.
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Hymns. Aggressive Baptism. And number one, the top ten fictional band names of the Dana Show in the year 2024. Is... Space murder.
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Space murder.
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Space murder.
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And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. All those names. For keeping track of all of this.
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Were mentioned on the Dana Show during the live broadcast in 2024.
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All right, Steve, real quick, because we are running out of time. Explain what this is and get away.
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All right, so we try to suggest things as producers on the show for us to bring up our cuts to run, and sometimes Dana doesn't want to do it, and she would rather do these things instead. So we'll run this real quick. Things Dana would rather do. Number 10, talk about how Space Marines is a three-player co-op. Number nine, feed myself into a wood chipper. That's number nine. Number eight, drag down a gravel road. That's number eight. Number seven, wear someone else's Crocs instead of her own. Number six, shot out of a cannon into space.
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Oh, man.
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Top ten, have crappy gas station sushi.
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Oh, man.
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Number four, have someone sell hermeth. Number three, choke to death on the hustlers of dead cicadas.
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Oh my gosh.
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Number two, talk about how video games and anime and grilling meet. Oh, my gosh. And the number one things you would rather do, gouge your eyes out with flu-ridden toothpicks. So there we go.
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Those are things you actually said, by the way. You said all things.
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I believe it. We're very passionate here on the program.
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Your mouth. Those were your words.
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Yeah, I remember the husks of dead cicadas because I think you almost actually barfed over there. Yeah, you almost spewed, man. It was rough. All right, real quick, with the time we have left, I want to thank you guys for supporting us throughout this year. I mean, we love hanging out with you. We do it because we love what we do, but we also love just talking with all of you guys every single day. And so I so appreciate your fellowship, and I appreciate your trust, and I appreciate your company every single day. We're grateful for you, for Juan, for Kane, for Steve. for everybody that's associated with the show as well, Radio America. The first, we're grateful for you all. Thank you guys for making the show such a success. And we've got a lot of stuff coming up for you in the new year. Also, big thanks to Lorraine for the chat and everything else. Everybody associated with the show, God love you. Merry Christmas. Have a happy new year. I'm going to be back behind the mic with you come January 6th. Yes. God bless, guys.
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In this episode, we dive deep into the contentious debate over national debt and government spending. Our hosts cover the alarming increase in the national debt to $36 trillion and criticize the lack of fiscal responsibility among both major parties. As they analyze the current legislation to increase the debt ceiling by $5 trillion, they unpack the calculations behind budget cuts and tax reform. Listeners are walked through the complexities of Article 1, Section 8, alongside the challenges of balancing budgets in a politically charged environment. The conversation also touches on recent infighting within the Republican party over a massive omnibus bill that jeopardizes fiscal goals, threatening to add billions more to the deficit. Get ready for an engaging discussion about the high stakes game playing out in Congress, with insightful contributions from political analysts and a heartfelt call for change from hosts who have grown weary of the status quo. As we close the year, the episode promises candid insights into the political maneuvers ahead, setting the tone for what promises to be a pivotal moment for America's financial future.
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When I got through cancer about 12 years ago, I made my promise to my kids that I would do everything I can to save this country. And what we're doing right now is to continue to double down on the things that are destroying the Republic. We are going to increase the debt ceiling Not just $4 trillion, that's false. We have spent $4.7 trillion in additional debt in the last 19 months. We're going to increase the debt by $5 trillion. That's what's going to happen right here by Republicans increasing the debt $5 trillion. And what are you doing in the same bill? $110 billion unpaid for because you never have any ounce of self-respect to go out and campaign saying you're going to balance the budget and then you come in here and pass $110 billion unpaid for. On top of the $200 billion you did for WEP, you guys won't agree with that, but the fact of the matter is $330 billion. Congratulations, you've added to the debt since you were given the majority again on November 5th. It's embarrassing. It's shameful. Yes, I think this bill is better than it was yesterday on certain respects, but to take this bill, to take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter in pages but increases the debt by $5 trillion is asinine. And that's precisely what Republicans are doing. It also turns off PAYGO. It turns off the $1.7 trillion in automatic cuts under PAYGO. Because this side of the aisle is profoundly unserious about actually reducing deficits, just as my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are profoundly unserious about reducing deficits. The entire body, the entire body has been racking up debt for my entire life. $36 trillion. A trillion dollars of interest. We rack up a trillion dollars every 100 days. And what are we going to do about it? We're going to run around and talk about cutting taxes, but not doing what's necessary to cut the spending along with the cut taxes. My other side of the aisle, my colleagues will say, oh no, we've got to increase taxes, but we'll do anything to cut spending. And so here we sit in the same mess. And I've got to be honest, I want to remind people, this is Article 1. I yield back.
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Article 1, Section 8, which outlines what the government is allowed to do, and it outlines what the government is allowed to spend. And, you know, I'm going to tell you guys something. I get really Machiavellian with stuff. I don't agree with any, a single, there's not a single politician on God's green earth that I agree with 100%. Not even Ron DeSantis. There's not a single, not even Reagan, right? Not even Massey. There's not a single politician that I agree with 100%. Do you guys agree with your spouses 100%? Do you agree with your girlfriends 100%? Do you agree with your moms and dads 100%? What about your siblings? Have you ever changed your mind? That's kind of a big question, have you? Because that means you're disagreeing with yourself. The reason I say this is because there's one thing that I am absolutely hell-bent on. And that one thing is making sure that we are not adding to... What is the debt, Cain? Jeebus, I can't even remember. What's the debt?
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Right now, 36 trillion.
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I think every 100 days we're adding a trillion.
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So...
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I am really... I get really... pissy. Can I say that? Because I do. When it comes to spending money, because I pay so much in tax, you pay so much in tax, I know that you guys are taxed to death. It's one of the reasons why I kick-started the Tea Party 2.0. So when I see a spending bill... You know, I immediately think, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a second here. Wait a second. What are we spending our money on? What is this going to? Is it paid for? And nothing that Chip Roy said here, not a single thing, is wrong. Not a single thing. I know people are upset about it. I know they're upset about it. I know they get, they're mad. But You know, the reality is he's right. He's right. And we're going to talk about that because we're also going to go over what the old draft of the bill was and then what was in the new draft. Because there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of things that changed overnight. And I want to make sure. that you guys are as informed as possible on this stuff. And the one thing that I will be forever consistent on is spending on this because of how much, you know, the ungodly amount of money that we pay, the ungodly amount of money that government wastes. This is the first test right here. of the new administration and new Congress. This is the first test. Because if these lawmakers cannot get it under control now, by God, they're not going to be able to do it with Doge. And y'all know it's true. That's the reality of this situation. And I mean the... You know, this point of tax cuts, you know, making sure that we have tax cuts, super important. Making sure that we're not taxed to death. Making sure that we're not sending billions of dollars somewhere else is all super important. And that's what this fight is about. So I've got a lot of stuff to hit you with today. We're going to go over the old draft, the new draft, what they're doing today because they got a deadline tonight, arbitrary too. We're going to dive into all of it. We're going to look at the fight that we have over the budget. This fight that we have with the budget. We're going to look at that. We're going to look at the... Because they reduced the pages, but they didn't reduce the amount of debt. They didn't reduce the amount of spending. That's supremely important that we note that. So we're going to get into all of it. And get you set up because it's our last broadcast of the year. And then obviously, you know, we come back in the new year. So that's what we got. We got a lot of stuff. We got a lot of stuff to hit. And we're going to have to have a talk with a little heart to heart. and all of this. So welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour. I'm in Christmas red. Don't get used to it. I did it for you. I wore red for you today for Christmas red, right? All right. So let's dive into it. Last night, all hell broke loose. And we're going to talk to a couple people today. We talked to Thomas Massey yesterday. I got Congressman Chip Roy, who's going to be talking with us today. I want to ask questions. Now, look, I'm going to tell you guys something. You guys know me. Let me just set the stage. You guys know me. I've been pretty consistent. It's hard to be in this business. I've been in this business since I was in my 20s. It's hard to be in this business. And... be on air for, you know, three hours every single day. I've been on air, you know, since 2008. So everything that I've ever said, everything that I've ever held, all my positions are out there. You can go see for yourself. You don't have to take my word for it. You can go and see for yourself. And I have been consistent. That's one thing to a fault. I have caught all hell from Republicans over the years for my consistency. I have had Republican nominees like Mitt Romney try to get me fired from my job. I have had people who have called my radio station like senior members of the House before screaming at my programming director in one affiliate or another. Oh, my gosh. And I don't bend a knee and I'm not an ass kisser. Because I have one goal, and I'm very selfish. I want to be left alone. That's it. I don't care about your stupid cocktail parties in D.C. I hate that. I hate the people that always go to them and have to be seen at them. I hate that stuff. I want to be out in the middle of nowhere and be left alone. Kane can attest to this. Drives him nuts. Drives him nuts. I've got to be coaxed out to go to Vegas for SHOT Show every year. And the only reason they get me to do that is because of guns. You know, I get to hold all the guns, right? And sometimes I get free ammo. I'm not going to lie. But I've been consistent on this stuff. My paycheck does not depend on whether a politician likes me. My paycheck does not depend on whether or not there are operatives like me. I mean, many have tried. It doesn't matter. So I don't got anything to lose. And I don't got a dog in this fight. I like people that I like, but I don't agree with them all the time. We ask hard questions and we ask people to come on and defend their positions and we're always going to do that. But I'm going to tell you what, you know, I should be more courteous for the Christmas season, but I'm done. I'm tired. You're all tired too. I can tell by your tone. Y'all are tired. And I feel for you because I know how it is. I know what it's like coming up broke. raised by a single mom, could not afford notebook paper to go to school. I know what it is to come from nothing. I know what it is to make ends meet. I know what it is to wonder where your meal is coming from. I lived that life. So I get a little pissy when I see government trying to spend our money without any kind of, they didn't even want to tell you what was in this stupid thing. That's why they released it at the last minute. So let me get to my point. All hell broke loose last night, and the honeymoon is officially over. The GOP went to war with itself. I'm going to tell you what. The Republicans' worst enemy is Republicans. It's not Democrats. We con ourselves into thinking Democrats are our worst enemy. They have the crappiest product and they're some of the dumb. I'm sorry. Some of them, not all, are the dumbest people. GOP went to war with itself over this 1500 plus page omnibus bill. It did everything from raise pay to lawmakers. It expanded plandemic powers. It granted an extension of censorship authority. They could have passed a simple CR. They refused to do it. By they, I mean Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson, I am told by a number of lawmakers. Now, because they have been so forthcoming with me on information, and I've talked to a lot of them in various factions, I was in contact with about 12 of them last night. It got dirty. Johnson was trying to play people dirty last night. He is really trying to divide some division to cover his ass. That's a fact. So there were a chunk of Republicans that voted against this last night. The current debt ceiling expires in June. Party leaders are hell bent on mucking it all up. So they were able to whittle the bill from 115 plus pages or sorry, from 15,000 or 1,500 something. Was it 80 something pages to 115 pages? OK, so we look at page number. It didn't reduce the amount of spending. You had billions of dollars of deficit spending in addition to over $4 trillion for debt. How is that conservative? How did you? You didn't vote for that. You didn't vote for that last election. You didn't. But that's what's in the bill. It didn't reduce. The old bill had billions of dollars of deficit spending and four plus trillion dollars in debt. The new bill had billions of deficit spending and four point plus trillion dollars in debt. I linked the bill for you in my piece on Substack. So you don't even again have to take my word for it. You can just read it yourself. I'm just the messenger pointing out the stuff that's been written by Speaker Johnson in this bill. Now, I give kudos to I'll give a little. I think I think both Ramaswamy and Musk are super new to this. It's one thing to whittle down the pages to 115, but it's also the amount of money that's stated and buried within the bill. That's still that's the most important thing. Doesn't matter how many pages if you still got the same amount of spending. Doesn't matter how many pages if you still have an extension of the suspension of the debt ceiling, which we have now. How's that working out for you? Suspension of the go by go and buy some eggs. And you tell me how that suspension of the debt ceiling is working out for you. And if you don't think it directly impacts how much you're paying at the grocery store, I feel like we need a grant, not for Ukraine, but for economic literacy. The bill failed. You had 38 Republicans that voted against it. Hardcore votes against it. They could not be prevailed upon to betray their voters. I know for a fact that voters in a number of these districts, because we've got affiliates there. I've got programming directors and all these affiliates. I've been in touch with legit almost everyone. I worked until about 1130 last night. I was in text. I was on the phone because I was running down what the sentiment was. People are livid. This spending bill was trash. You're not going to get spending more now to save more later is like screwing for chastity. I have such a packed show. We're already running over. It's going to be crunching into our headline segment, but I want to make sure I get you everything. Coming up, we're going to go over what was still in the bill, what they still have left, and the rights war with itself that's going to kill itself. We're going to get into all of that and more as we roll towards the bottom of this first hour. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Welcome back to the program, your lovable curmudgeon. Dana Lash. And we're at the bottom of this first hour. And we've been talking about this. See, we got a lot of other stuff to get into because, hey, I know there's a shutdown, but guess who just voted to send more? Guess who just decided to send more billions to Ukraine? The administration. Yeah. I mean, you know what? Shut down. That happened. More of our tax dollars going to Ukraine. That was just announced today. Now, the vote on the CR, this continuing resolution. I mean, they got to go. They're going to be going all night tonight. This could happen. I mean, I mean, this is all happening now because Mike Johnson pooed the bed. He pooed the bed because he's the one who came out. He wrote this bill. He came out with this bill. He wrote it. So I'm just curious why everybody's giving him a pass. Why are people giving him a pass for? That's it. Why are they giving him a pass? He wrote this. He pushed it in. It was all this nonsense added to the first draft. That was the 1500 something pages. The second one, 115 pages, still had the same level of spending in it. There were certain things that were cut. The suspension of the debt ceiling is still in there. I know people think that that's a made-up thing. I would love to subscribe to that belief. But the reality that we are forced to work with is that it's a real thing and it actually means something. That's the amount of debt that we're allowed to accrue. That's the amount of debt we have. We've got a service that we can't default. Can't have our credit rating rocked, Kane, correct? I mean, hell, we're fighting for the petrodollar right now. You want our credit rating rocked on top of it? Come on, this is econ 101. You know, I get that there are some pick me influencers that were progressives a half a second ago that don't understand it because they're not the ones that work. They live off the welfare of their working wives and they don't understand the math. I get that. Oh, I'm going to be full of it today. I get that. But the reality is, is that the debt limit is a real thing. I don't want to. You don't want to. We don't want more spending. There's a way to do it without suspending the debt limit. There's a way to do it without adding, you know, the four. And I say it's four trillion. I got a lot of people arguing with me about that, saying that it's more because that's just a one year thing. So I get that. But I don't I'm not focusing on that right now. I'm just saying it adds trillions in debt. So just know that. Right. So in addition to that, we also have the billions. What is it? One hundred and ten billion dollars for the deficit. So that's deficit spending. One hundred ten billion. That's the amount of money that's in this. I have read the bill. I linked it on Substack. I read it. I don't know. Like, should I like do notes on it and write them in the margins? I don't know. Now, I know a lot of you out there get it because you're done with it. And I get, and I want to point this out too, for all the infighting on the GOP, I really want to believe that we're on the same page. This is about a different approach to the same end, correct? We have different means to get to the same end. My means is I ain't spending another dime. That's my means. I'm done with paying that much for butter, that much for eggs. It's hitting everybody. I got family members that are struggling. Friends that are struggling. There's different groups that we help out with financially. And the financial need this year is so great, it's crazy. People are struggling. Hardworking families. I mean, I know that the Biden administration wants to tell you that there's a plethora of jobs. There's not. They've been crunching the economy. You have hardworking people out there that got skills and want to work and want to provide for their family. And they're being barred because of the economic illiteracy of this administration. I get it. That's why I don't want to spend another damn dime. I will fight to the death on it. We've got to start somewhere. The people that are fighting to increase the debt limit and to push spending today are the ones that are going to ignore Doge tomorrow. You either think Doge is going to have a purpose and you think it means something or you think it's just a mirage that you're going to use to cover your ass so you can spend more and then pretend publicly that you're not. I fear for that second potential outcome. I fear for it. Now, that being said, it's a real thing. The. approaches to it. I know POTUS elect wants to use the debt ceiling as leverage going into next year. We got an expiration in June so they can vote to suspend it again. I get it. I think that there's a better way. I'm not the only one. There are a lot of other really smart people that think there's a better way. People like Mike Lee think there's a better way. Even Vivek Ramaswamy was thinking there was a better way. He was saying the day before yesterday, hells yes, you can get this down to one page and you can cut the spending. I said it when it came out. He's right. Even Musk is on it. So, Let's get to the real meat of it, because this is what's blowing up in the conservative sphere. And we're going to get to this. We're going to get to all this. So Chip Roy, you heard him speaking. He was on the floor and he was understandably upset. I get it. He's also he's being pressured by his constituents. You better hold the line. We've got affiliates in his area. I know this for a fact. We have affiliates. We have an affiliate in his area. I know for a fact that they support him and he's popular because he's always held the line. That's why he kind of breezes through the elections. Everybody likes him. You know, don't take a leak on me and tell me it's raining. I've seen the results. I live in Texas. I know the reality of it. He's being pressured to hold that line by the people who voted for him. That's what they want. And that's the agenda they were promised, were they not? You were promised that agenda. That's why you voted the way, that's why you Democrats voting. You had everyone from Hispanics, Latinos, black Americans, Indian Americans, Asian Americans, everybody that was voting for fiscal responsibility. And he's right. He doesn't want to spend more. He's right with the math. Rand Paul came out in defense of it. He's right with the math. 38 other Republicans are right about it. So yesterday, POTUS called for him to be primaried. I don't know why he's doing this. Why is he calling for him to be primaried but protecting Mike Johnson, the moderate rhino who wrote the bill? I don't get it. But I have a theory. Now, what I'm about to say does not negate the fact that I voted for Trump three times or that I've known him for over a decade. I was the first person to introduce him at CPAC. I know him and his family well, and I really like them. I've defended him and I and I will disagree where it is because I'm not a serf. I'm not a subject. I'm a citizen. And I will disagree with everyone. I disagree with him calling for the primary of Chip Roy to get in a moderate who would pass big spending. This isn't about the budget. This is about relitigating the primary. Let's have this uncomfortable discussion. It's our last show of the year. We'll come back in January refreshed. Here's the problem. Roy's biggest sin is not that he's a fiscal conservative. Chip Roy's biggest sin is not that he opposes raising the debt ceiling. But that's part of it. His biggest sin is that he endorsed Ron DeSantis in the primary. And apparently that's worse than verbatim calling Trump Hitler like J.D. Vance did in the modern Republican politics. I'm all for people changing their mind. And I'm not bringing that up to relitigate that. I'm bringing it up to show the inconsistency of it. This is not about loyalty. It's about submission. And there's a difference. It's one of the reasons why so many people were trying to rhetorically give Trump the shiv during the first term. It's one of the reasons why one of his top aides that everyone acts like he plays 40 chess, but he doesn't. He just gloms on to everyone and tries to ride their coattails to success. It's why he was the one who's leading a reporter through the White House. And it ended up in this disastrous story that was a distraction from the Trump agenda. Your primary position last spring is what now determines your credibility forever, not your actual voting record, not your actual publicly held positions. And this is an idea that is. promoted by a small group of pick-me people who are terrified about the scarcity of opportunity at the Trump table. So they feel like they've got to constantly prove themselves by attacking people who are more conservative than they are, who have fought harder than they are, and have balls that are bigger than what they have. That's indisputable. That's stupid. I'm not a communist. We have free and fair elections. Like the free and fair election that saw Trump win in 2016 that Democrats tried to undermine. I believe in free and fair elections. The primaries are a part of the free and fair election process. I am not a communist. We aren't communists who oppose these elections. And I'll be damned if I apologize to anyone who would demand that I do so. I proudly made my vote three times in the general election. Because like hell I was voting for Hillary Kamala or Biden. So that's important to note. If you can't get over the primary, we got bigger problems than Democrats. Primaries are a part of the system. That's the way of it. We either like free and fair elections or we don't. I'm not going to turn my back on a free and fair election because a pick-me person who will be irrelevant in four years is demanding that I do so. That's the bottom line. And I don't get bullied and I don't get intimidated. I get meaner and I dig in. And I've been up against better. Now, that's all I'm going to say on that issue. I don't understand calling to primary people who have been a rubber stamp for his administration. Chip Roy, Thomas Massey, with a couple exceptions, Rand Paul, with an exception, have been the most closest voters for the Trump agenda than people like Mike Johnson and others. I mean, you're talking about people that got 98% conservative score ratings with every single outfit that measures it. That's super important. You've got people that have gone to the mat for this agenda now i've had people who bring up oh chip roy talked about impeaching trump yeah i thought he was wrong he didn't vote for impeachment that was a lie that was created by i don't know who and spread on the internet chip roy and i don't need to defend him he's going to come on my show and defend his own damn self here in a little bit and i'm going to ask him all those questions he didn't vote to impeach trump I disagreed with his remarks on it. But because I disagreed with Chip Roy, does that mean I got to forfeit my hard-earned money and go into $4 trillion in debt? Is that what that means? Both Chip Roy and Donald Trump were talking about George Floyd. In the very beginning, everyone was trying to assuage the... Tension across the nation as a way to be a diplomat, not to compromise a principle, but to be a diplomat and try to quell all the stuff that was bubbling up. That's what leaders do. That's what Trump did. And that's what Roy did. They didn't give nothing up. They were being leaders. I got to be honest, I disagreed with both of their statements. I'm pretty got some powerful opinions about that. That being said, does that mean I got to forfeit $4 trillion in spending? Because I disagreed with him? Because he said what he said? Because he literally verbatim said what Trump said? Do we got to give up the debt ceiling and $4 trillion in spending? No. No. I disagreed with Chip Roy on Paxton. I like him, Paxton, a lot. I've had him on my show. And I thought it, well, I can't say what I thought the witch hunt against him was. I'll get fined by the FCC. And I really don't want to use my get out of jail free card with Brendan Carr on that. But needless to say, I, Cain, how would you say? Strongly disliked it? The witch hunt against Paxton? Because it was a witch hunt.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's almost accurate.
SPEAKER 11 :
It was lawfare.
SPEAKER 06 :
What's stronger than strong?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I disagreed with Chip Roy on it. That happens. I mean, not everyone can be right like me. You know what I'm saying? So I disagree with Chip Roy on it. Does that mean I got to forfeit $4 trillion in spending? Does that mean I got to suspend the debt ceiling and spend us and our children into economic servitude? Hell no. So what does that have to do with the debt? Nothing. It's a dumb deflection to try to shame you into backing big spending. You're smarter than that. Because you listen to the show and we're friends. Reject it. Reject that argument. Problem is this. I'm going to be frank with you. This austerity fight is going to be a bitch. There are a lot of politicians and their pick-me influencers who rave over Javier Malai. But what yesterday showed is that when the rubber hits the road, they cave. Many of them cave. And this fight only gets harder from here. Trump is going to get blasted by the left. The media is already trying to pick apart his coalition. I'm going to talk about that coming up next hour. They're going to say that the spending and the reducing of government, they're going to blame him for the pain on it before the benefits are even felt. You got to reject it. And this is just December. We're not even in January. It's not a job for the weak, but if anyone could do it and not care about public opinion, it's Trump. He's got six months before midterm cycle starts, a four-year limit. He has an amazing opportunity to do what every Republican has promised and failed to do. And what I want for Christmas, this Christmas, is for him to succeed and for this coalition to stay focused and united. Our partners over at Preborn, great organization that's out there saving lives right and left, and they're meeting with mothers and And they're helping them as these mothers are facing an unexpected pregnancy. unplanned pregnancy I should say and a lot of people are searching for hope and a lot of people feel like this is that's you know a lot of women they think that that's their last resort and it's not and that's what pre-born ministry steps in to help with they meet these women they introduce them to their babies ultrasounds they listen to the heartbeat when that happens studies shown that a child's chance of surviving doubles at that point but that's not all they partner with these women up until the toddler years making sure that these families get the best start. And that just goes so much, that's exactly what is needed. They steward these women, they help this new life, and they're able to do it because of your generous donations. Save a life this Christmas. It starts at just $28. I mean, by donating that amount, you can help support women and babies in need and provide vital care and resources. You can make even a larger life-changing donation, $5,000, $10,000, $15,000. You can use that to save countless babies, maximize your year-end tax deduction. It's doubled with a special matching grant as well, so your gift will have double the impact. Any donation matters. So if you want to know how to donate, it's simple and easy. You just dial pound or 4millennials, hashtag donation. Pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250, keyword baby. You can also visit preborn.com slash Dana to donate online. Every contribution counts. Pound 250, say the keyword baby, preborn.com slash Dana.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Oh my gosh. Who's this guy? I almost think, I think every guy who leans in a camera, I immediately get like, I think we're all, we all have like PTSD from tubing. So whenever I see anybody like using like a Zoom thing to connect to cable news, I'm like, Don't tube in me, bro. Hands up, don't tube in. I can't breathe. That's what I think. Makes me nervous, Cain. It does.
SPEAKER 06 :
It makes me laugh uncontrollably.
SPEAKER 11 :
Does it? Does it now?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, so this is what we got on deck here coming up. Let me lay it down for you. So we got the media is trying to drive a wedge between Trump and Musk. I know you're too smart for it, but I want to just show you And go through some of the examples so you can see all the different ways they're trying to pick at any kind of perceivable crack. It's very important. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Potatos, who's given more billions to Ukraine. Not only that, but he also kicked in more debt cancellation for government workers. Did you guys know that? What shutdown? What? What? We got that coming up. I'm going to break that down. Congressman Chip Roy, he's going to answer some questions coming up. You don't want to miss a single second of today's show. We're rocking and rolling. Stick with us back in a moment. Look, I'm going to tell you, I've said this a million times before. I carry every chance I get, and I have zero problem. at all whatsoever in using lethal force to protect myself or a loved one. Unfortunately, you know, we live I mean, I get it that you have private property rights, and you have property owners that maybe don't want you to carry and but they're not going to provide you with any kind of security, right? Or maybe it's, you know, a government building, or maybe it's, you know, the municipality that's like, like Los Angeles that wants to or Chicago that wants to ban something. You don't want to be left defenseless and you don't want prosecutors to use like unconstitutional laws as a way to remove or bar you from further exercising your Second Amendment rights. But you still need a means of protection. And this is where the burner gun comes in. Think of it as diversifying your weapons array. So you have a way to still protect yourself from. And you don't have to worry or pay attention to gun-free zone signs because a Berna gun doesn't care about that. Berna gun does not care about waiting. Waiting periods are inapplicable. They ship it. No background checks. They ship it right to your front porch. And if you're unfamiliar with what the Berna gun is and does, the SD is their most popular model. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. Now, they have other models, but I talk about the Berna SD most because that's what I have the most familiarity with. And everybody I know that's gotten a Berna gun, they've gotten the Berna SD. And in fact, a lot of law enforcement agencies are incorporating it as a way to have to be able to control threats and to have like, you know, just a gradient approach, so to speak. Now, you can get a major discount on them. We get 10% off by going to Burna.com slash Dana. You can look at all of the models that they have. They have different projectiles, accessories, all kinds of stuff. And again, no background checks, no permits, ships right to your door. They don't care about gun-free zone signs. Visit bruna.com slash Dana. Diversify your weapon array. Get 10% off your purchase. That's byrna.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome back to the program. It's your lovable curmudgeon, Dana Lash, here at the top of the second hour. You can listen coast to coast. You can watch a simulcast, Channel 347, DirecTV, as well as catch us, the chats at Rumble. You can follow along on X, everywhere else. Broadcasts are sold. I'm joking. All right. So I want to immediately jump to this one other big falsehood about the CR and all this stuff. Because one of the things that you've heard from the left is, why don't you care about children's cancer research? That's what they've been saying. I want to play audio. They said it over and over again. Audio soundbite 16. This is Representative Barbara Lee. Now, there's two things I want you to listen to. She immediately invokes Musk, number one. And that's a reason why. And we're going to get into that. But number two, listen to what she says about this. Listen.
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Well, I believe that that's what Elon Musk wants. And also, I assume Donald Trump has co-signed that. But Democrats negotiated a bipartisan deal. But what they care about is making sure that there are tax breaks for billionaires rather than cancer research, for example, for children. And they don't care about what takes place if, in fact, the government shuts down.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so here's the problem with this. Okay. There was already a bill for children's cancer research that passed the Republican House and it made it to the Senate. And Chuck Schumer refused, outright refused to bring it to the floor. What? What party is Chuck Schumer again, Cain? Remind all the good people out there.
SPEAKER 06 :
That would be Democrat.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right, sir. That's right, sir. You're never wrong. You know, it's about old people. You're not wrong about that. But that's kind of a big deal. That's a huge deal. That bill specifically about children's cancer research already went through the House. And it's been $190 million, hat tip Greg Price, for pediatric cancer research. It passed the Republican House as a stand-alone bill. And it has been languishing in Chuck Schumer's Senate. Sponsored by Representative Jennifer Wexton. This bill, H.R. 3391, the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act of 2.0. They were having committee meetings all the way back in... July of last year. In fact, in March 8th, that's when it was pushed to the Senate and referred to the Committee on Health, Education and Labor. They've only had one vote, a roll call vote, and that was it. They have not moved it out of that committee, that Democrat-led committee and that Democrat-led Senate. And that's the last movement there's been. It went from it was received, read twice, referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. That was on March 8th of 2024. And it has languished. So, number one, if Democrats were actually serious about cancer research for kids. they would have already passed this bill. They've had it since March. They've refused to take it out of committee. They got to vote it out of committee. They just did a roll call vote and let it lie. That was on purpose. So that's number one. Because they don't want to have, remember, house is the power of the purse. These people would rather risk this research funding than to give the House Republicans a win. Not even kidding you. That's how stupid politics are right now. So that's number one. Number two, if you really wanted this to pass, Democrats, why did you tie it to a big spending bill? Because, you know, Mike Johnson was working with Hakeem Jeffries on this, right? This was Hakeem Jeffries that was insisting on tying this to the spending bill. Why? If y'all were that serious about it, why did you tie it to the bill, to a spending bill? Why couldn't you do it as a standalone bill? You know, Congressman Thomas Massey made a very good point. Why can't we just break it down, have a standalone for Farm Aid if you need it? I mean, I've got issues, but we're going to talk about that later. That, something separate for hurricane or disaster relief, and then this separate. Because they can't get their big spending passed unless they can use this as a tool over which to extort your vote. That's why. That's all this is about. These people aren't serious. They think that you're not going to pay attention to it. They think that you are going to ignore it. They did not think that you, they thought you were going to ignore it because you're busy. It's a Christmas season. You're just trying to afford presents for your kids. You're trying to afford a meal to put on the table. So they thought they were going to be able to slip this in and extort you and use kids as As the way to do it. It's not the first time they've hid behind kids. I mean, ISIS does it all the time. I see the gun control activists do it on the reg. And you know, that's truth. So that's a major problem right there. Big major problem. They think they thought you weren't going to pay attention. I love this ABC story. I was laughing so hard at those. They're freaking out over the possible impacts of a government shutdown. Can we just put things in perspective? Okay, what's today? All right. What's Monday? Tuesday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. Christmas for me?
SPEAKER 11 :
Christmas Eve. Christmas and Christmas Eve coming up. They're already on break, guys. They're already on break. They're not even there. What does it matter? It's basically a de facto shutdown anyway. They come back on January 2nd. Nobody's going to be there until January 2nd. So let it shut down. I don't care. Let it shut down. That's what government's best, by the way, because it's shutting down all the non-essential stuff, save for military pay. And it's a shame that Democrats want to play chicken with that. That is a shame. And so, you know, I'm telling you. They can't, they thought you weren't paying attention to this. So they're saying, oh my gosh, what are the impacts of a shutdown? They got to scramble. Federal contractors, they're, again, they're not even going to be in office. 1201 AM could shut down. They have active duty that until a funding agreement, why can't they do a standalone for active duty funding? I know a lot of Republicans have been pushing that. Democrats have been fighting them. Why? It's going to impact travel. I'm going to be honest with you. I got family that's that a lot of family traveling. We travel. Everybody travels over Christmas. And I really want to see my family over Christmas. But I'm not willing to go for trillion dollars in debt. I'm not willing to continually suspend the debt ceiling and just have more of the same. This is what I'm talking about. This is going to be tough, guys. It's going to be really tough. And austerity, I mean, look what they did in Greece. They rioted in Greece when they tried to push austerity. This is going to be a hell of a fight. And this is going to be a continual nonstop fight over this until midterms, and then it'll be another fight. I need you to be aware of that. This is not going to be a one and done thing. What you signed up for was a battle. You signed up for a war, basically. An ideological war. And if you want this stuff, you got to fight for it. And you got to hold the line. And sometimes it's very uncomfortable. Sometimes you're going to catch a lot of heat. But that's by design. Because they want to push you away from what you voted for. You deserve that. what you voted for. You deserve the return on the investment of your vote. There were so many good people out there. I saw people, I'm going to tell you, with my kids going to school and all that, I met a woman, has a daughter that's a very big Trump fan. And thankfully, she's going to a more conservative Texas school. And they came from Ohio. I met him on an orientation thing. And the girl always she has a MAGA hat. She always wanted to wear a hat. And this was going to be the first election that she was voting in. She was like really hyper, like aware of how the hat was perceived. And she was very nervous because I think they live in kind of a blue county in Ohio. And they were really nervous about it. And I remember telling the mom, like, you don't got to worry about that in Texas. Have her wear her hat. She's fine. These are people who were not politically active before, but they really went through it with the economy and they lost a business. I heard the whole life story. I get why people make these decisions. They didn't make the decision to vote the way that they did flippantly. They made it because they needed to save their family. They needed to protect their family's nest egg. They needed to protect their kids in schools. This is the normie election where normal people were energized into becoming activists because the left was so insane. These people did not make these choices on a whim. They knew that it was going to cost them if it came out. Oh my gosh, they voted for Trump? They wore a red hat? What? The daughter likes Trump? She likes J.D. Vance? What? They know that it comes with costs. And they didn't take that decision lightly. And they really committed and they made it. And I feel for that kind of seriousness... and dedication to their family and to the country, those people deserve a return on the investment of their vote. They do not deserve to be betrayed by big spending. And this idea that you got to spend more now to save money later is like screwing for chastity. Doesn't make sense. The real test is now. I think Musk and Ramaswamy know it. And I get real aggravated because I know these people. I've seen them. I've talked with them around the country. And, you know, as much as I want to be a hard ass, those stories affect you. You know, when you hear about the business owner who lost their business because they couldn't keep up in Biden economy with the inflation, that's a family that's suffering because of moves that bureaucrats that were born with a silver spoon up their backside made. Why would we vote for more of this and think that it's sanctioned because it's a Republican thing? You have the obligation as a patriot. You got to hold your side accountable, too, because power corrupts. You got to be the conscience for this party. This party is going to reject you being its conscience. You got to fight it because this is for their good, not just their own good, but not just yours. As Kane notes, the new Congress is being sworn in on January 3rd. This is a fight. And they're going to try to go after any any cracks they find. So here's the media's thing. They want to go after Musk. Remember, I told you this. I know we got to get moving, but I want to play one other quick thing. This is 15. Actually, no, this is play 14, please. This is Hakeem Jeffries.
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Republicans have abandoned that bipartisan agreement that we entered into in good faith. A bill that House Republicans negotiated gave us your word that we were going to move forward together on behalf of the American people. It was a Republican-drafted bill that was posted by House Republicans. And then one or two puppet masters weigh in And the extreme MAGA Republicans decide to do the bidding of the wealthy, the well-off, the well-connected millionaires and billionaires, not working class people.
SPEAKER 11 :
They never bitched about billionaires when it was Soros, when it was Bezos, when it was Zuckerberg. They didn't get mad about that when it was Jack, Buffett, Turner. They didn't get mad about any of that. Bloomberg. They didn't get mad about any of that. Oh my gosh. One. For the first time ever, the right has a billionaire besides the Koch brothers that get involved and actually fund stuff. You don't agree with them on everything, but it's the 80-20 rule. And they're livid. They're going to try to divide. They're going to try to appeal to Trump's ego. They're going to try to appeal to the ego of others in leadership. And they're going to try to act like Musk is calling the shots. They know that he's not. But they want to drive division and they want to make people suspicious of each other. It's a psyop. Don't fall for it. I know you won't.
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SPEAKER 06 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 11 :
Man, I keep cheating you guys on headlines. There's so much content today. $10.1 billion wasted. Holiday shoppers are spending $10 billion on gifts nobody wants, like little tchotchke stuff. Stop buying dumb stuff that nobody needs. Jesus only got three presents. Nobody else in your life is more special than Jesus. They don't get more than three. It doesn't have to be above and beyond. A mysterious health wave is breaking out across the U.S., They keep trying to make people think that we're doing fine. And then here's Trump and RFK Jr. So I'm done with it. A wild new study links body part size to dementia risk. I'll let you guys do the mental gymnastics on that. Alzheimer's could be caused by herpes. But wait, what about people who have cold sores? Like, and they don't, you know, engage in that kind of stuff. I don't know. The loudest state in America is revealed. Number one is New Jersey. Texas is only 25. I'm actually kind of shocked about that. New Jersey, yeah, I get that, and I get it. Coming up, Congressman Chip Roy, you don't want to miss this.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, indeed. Welcome back. Dana Lash here. You can listen coast to coast. You can also find us on Channel 347, DirecTV, as well as Rumble and X and everywhere else. The chat's at Rumble. And don't forget to follow us at Substack. I had a very interesting piece that came out yesterday evening about this whole fight over spending and the debt ceiling because this fight is not over. It's ongoing today. Deadlines tonight. Some of it's self-imposed. We're going to dive into all of that with our first guest for our last show of the year. And that is Congressman Chip Roy from the great state of Texas, great Republic of Texas, who has well, he's not he hasn't been busy and he definitely hasn't been in the news lately. Congressman, it's good to see you. No good deed goes unpunished. So I just I want to point out, you know, I there are a few lawmakers here. in DC that I think have been consistent and consistency on these huge issues is key for me. So I'm glad that you've been consistent, but tell people your thought process on this, because correct me if I'm wrong, I'm going to let you answer, but this, you had 110 billion in deficit spending. You're looking at 4 trillion, although I'm told it's over really ultimately 4 trillion for additional debt. The suspension of the debt limit, none of which is conservative, none of which I voted for last month. Is that correct? And it didn't change even with the whittling down to 115 pages.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Dana, and then by May, I might back up for a second. First of all, Merry Christmas. Thanks for having me on. And thanks for seeking truth here. But if you back up for a minute, since we were rewarded with a majority in November, heavily, obviously, in coordination with President Trump's landslide performance in November, we have done, I think, a poor job of reflecting that in this Congress. I say that because we passed a $200 billion addition to the deficit in the name of a Social Security called Windfall Elimination Program, was sent to the Senate. And we were told, oh, don't worry, the Senate won't pass it. And they are. They're passing it this week. And so that adds $200 million to the deficit and shortens Social Security's bankruptcy by about nine months. Then, now, they've been negotiating this 1,500-page bill that is, as you described, the first bill, which I was violently opposed to, was very public in my opposition against it, because it had $110 billion in it, but also had tons of other stuff. Some of that stuff was good, but should go through regular order. Some of the stuff was bad and should come out. So thanks to Vivek, thanks to Elon, thanks to us, by the way, we were exposing this stuff in real time, looking at the bill. Well, 1,400 pages came out. Again, some good, some bad. They're gone. You got 116 pages left. It had $110 billion of unpaid for spending, add more deficit, and it had an increase in the debt ceiling to the tune of two years or roughly $5 trillion with no spending costs. Well, one of my hardcore lines is that I don't raise our credit card without having some sort of structural spending reforms to cut spending. I've been opposed to that. That was a part of the whole deal with Kevin McCarthy a year and a half ago, which led to caps, which of course immediately got violated. But we actually did put some constraints in place, and we actually honored them to a degree. We can't, in my opinion, raise the debt ceiling right now without knowing that we will get structural reforms and cuts in the reconciliation process. Last point. Yesterday morning, I was making the case to conservatives and others on the Hill. We want to give the president runway. He wants the debt ceiling gone. I get that. I actually agree with him wholeheartedly. Get it off the table so Chuck Schumer can't use it to mess with us. But it has to come with spending cuts. That's what the last 48 hours has been about. And I'm never going to apologize for that.
SPEAKER 11 :
I actually disagree with you on that. I don't think the debt ceiling should be suspended at all. Explain this to me, because there are some people who say. that it's like a gimmick, that it's like a point of leverage. Some people say that the debt ceiling is just like a made up thing. But I mean, it is a real thing. You're talking about servicing debt that we can't default on. I mean, we're fighting over the petrodollar. We don't want to ruin our credit rating either. So explain that to folks. And that's where I'm not on the same page. I don't want any kind of suspension of the debt limit.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure. So the debt limit, first of all, back up. The Constitution invests in Congress. the addition of debt. Now, we can get on a whole other show on the printing of money, the Fed, how much we've relinquished our control, but we're supposed to authorize debt. So the debt ceiling is a function of Congress. What that means is just, we've said you can only borrow this much. We keep spending more than that, and now we have to raise the debt ceiling again because we haven't done our job. So the only way to try to put brakes on the spending is to say, guys, you don't have my vote to increase the credit card limit, to borrow more money, unless you change your spending ways. I know we can't literally, well, I say we can't. You could stay under the current debt ceiling and just start prioritizing our expenditures and immediately have the effective balanced budget amount. That actually could happen. I actually think President Trump, Ilan Vivek, Russ Voth, I think they might be able to do that. I give them a lot of grace that I think they're going to do some good spending cuts. But we can't agree to bless the debt ceiling increase without knowing that we're going to deal with the mandatory side through the reconciliation process, which is 72 percent of our budget. So that's what this is all about.
SPEAKER 11 :
We're talking with Congressman Chip Roy here via Skype, if you're just joining us. I tend to think that this is kind of like one of the first tests of Doge's ability to actually have impact. Because my thought is that if you have members of Congress, whether it's House or Senate, if you have people in D.C. who are unable to even just have a structural impact, something to control this runaway spending, how are they going to listen to recommendations from Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk that have to go through House and have to go through these same lawmakers?
SPEAKER 03 :
So this was a point that I made to Elon and to Vivek when they came in to address Congress 10 days ago. of the parliament i want you to be able to cut spending go through use your uh ground sourcing ai use ads put pressure and spotlight on it comma however if you're looking for the enemy they're in this room congress just has an insatiable desire to fund more programs do more spending and not do the hard business of restraining spending And at the end of the day, we have to do most of that. The executive branch can do some through empowerment, other tools. I'd like to give them more tools to reduce the bureaucracy. I'm good with that. And I say that as somebody who believes in separation of power. Executives should be able to do that. By the way, I completely support President Trump's goal of getting the debt ceiling off the table for Chuck Schumer to abuse, to scare the markets, but only with guaranteed known commitment to cut spending. That's what we're debating. Right now, my colleagues are in a room Because we've got a proposal we're trying to craft for us to rally around to be the guidepost that will decide whether or not we will honor our commitment to our constituents to actually reduce spending and balance the budget. And by the way, what we're proposing is more modest than I would prefer. Literally, we're just trying to get a framework to give us to say focus on spending without just lifting the debt ceiling with no actual structural reform.
SPEAKER 11 :
Why couldn't this have been just like a clean CR? I mean, you know, vote up or down. We're just one singular CR. Why all the mess?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it might have been able to be that a few days back, but this monstrosity came up, it was killed, and then the president said that as a requirement for his blessing or support of a CR, he needed the debt ceiling increase. Now look, again, I told the president, I've told his supporters, I've told people, my colleagues, I support him in that. But our condition in Congress is that that has to come with. So a clean CR, great, I will do that till March. But if he has a concern not on the debt ceiling, we can't pass a debt ceiling increase now without knowing what the spending constraints will be in the future. We're coming up with a proposal now to try to tie it all together with the reconciliation process when we get there in January so that we can get comfortable with what debt ceiling increase might occur in January combined with spending cuts and constraints in the reconciliation process in January, February, March, April.
SPEAKER 11 :
So it sounds like everybody has the same ends, but they have different means to achieve it. So that had to be kind of disappointing.
SPEAKER 03 :
I would question that, though. There are some of my colleagues, with all due respect, who don't. They're not committed to it. They run and kind of get scared of the corner. And they say, well, we can do this. We'll do mandatory. But they don't want to touch mandatory until the future. And then they don't really want to get serious about discretionary spending. And they kind of accept it as it is what it is. And they talk a big game. That's why what we're trying to talk about now is important. We're trying to give President Trump the tools to succeed. We believe that he wants to succeed. Certainly, we believe Elon and Vivek want to succeed, Russ Vought and others. But we've got to create a framework under which we can operate. Look, we might end up with a clean CR. And we're talking about that. But then in what context? What is the agreement on spending? That's what we're debating right now.
SPEAKER 11 :
How much of this do you lay at the feet of Mike Johnson?
SPEAKER 03 :
Look, I think we've got a lot to talk about how we're going to move forward as a conference. I think Mike has been trying to work in good faith with a very difficult, thin majority, trying to figure out how to get this done with the complexities of the president who has strong opinions about what we do about the debt ceiling, which, as I've said, I understand and frankly agree with. So I'm going to reserve all my commentary on where we go on all of that until we get through this moment.
SPEAKER 11 :
You sound more magnanimous towards him now than I've heard he's been with you in private. You sound more magnanimous with him right now than I've heard he's been with you in private.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mike, look, Mike, I don't look backwards. Mike and I are friends. We are working together. He has been trying to work with groups of us to get this thing accomplished. We've got a lot of work to do. We've got things to figure out. I'm not going to go there. I'm not going to go there with the president. The president took a shot at me yesterday. Look, I'm here to save the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
He called for you to be primaried.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, so be it. That's that's the way the world works. I'm not worried about that. Well, let me ask you this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you think that that's inconsistent? I mean, he's been harsher towards you than he has against Mike Johnson, whom a lot of conservatives like myself blame for this mess.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, putting Mike aside for a minute, the conference is the problem. Republicans' insatiable desire to spend money while going out and thumping their chest about fiscal responsibility and balancing the budget is the problem. I understand why the president wants what he wants. I think he went sideways yesterday in a way that was unfair and not correct based on what I was trying to do for him and for the conference. But that is what it is. At the end of the day, I get my strength from God, my family. I honor the Constitution and my voters. They sent me here to not spend more money. They sent me here to secure the border. Yes, a lot of them sent me here to work side by side with President Trump. But I've got a duty under the Constitution to do what I've got to do. And I've got a relatively unbendable rule. I'm not lifting the debt ceiling unless there's actual spending cuts and constraints that are obvious and sitting there that we're going to do. That's my obligation of the Constitution.
SPEAKER 11 :
We're talking with Congressman Chip Roy via Skype, and he's been good enough to come on with us. I know he's been super busy in D.C. You know, you you were one of 38 Republicans in the House to vote against this. And then there are people like Senator Rand Paul, you know, Mike Lee and others that have been pretty vociferous about this. You know, the debts. I mean, they share your viewpoint, but you have gotten the biggest brunt of it. Is it because you supported DeSantis in the primary? How much of it comes back to relitigating the primary?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's a question for the president. What I what I also think is if you if you are willing to leave because you want to achieve an objective, the easiest thing for me to do is just sit back and say, look, I know. And just stay on the sidelines, show up, try to force it. But I'm trying to get the room and trying to get to an agreement and fix and get things done. And sometimes that means you're going to take shots from all sides. I'm OK with that. But what I'm not going to do is back off of the principles. I'm not going to not go to the floor and call out my colleagues, as I did yesterday, for what they were trying to jam through last night, which would just continue the spending spree without actual spending constraints. The president, that's up to him on how he wants to contain that. I've visited with him. He knows I support what he's trying to do. I still support Governor DeSantis. He's my friend. I offer no apologies. to advance this country and republic. But, you know, look, I want to support the president and achieve the objectives he wants to achieve. I want to get our conference to do their job and for once and for all actually restrain spending. If we don't, the country's gone.
SPEAKER 11 :
I want to address, I only got a couple more questions for you. I want to address one of the things that I've seen all over social media. I think it's kind of a distraction. I mean, not kind of, it is a distraction. But I see people bringing up, you know, like your criticism of, you know, Ken Paxton. And, you know, and I disagreed with you on Paxton. I like Ken Paxton. You don't. We all have our reasons. I'm all about 80-20 rule. And I also think you've been a stalwart financial conservative, fiscal conservative, and you've been strong on gun rights. I'm more concerned right now about spending us into servitude. which I don't think, you know, criticism of Paxton, you were critical of, you know, the J6 stuff, but you didn't vote for impeachment. But I'm just curious as to why that means we have to forfeit $40 trillion or $4 trillion in spending and a suspended debt ceiling as like a penance for that. I wanted to get your thoughts on it and, you know, some of the stuff that's been bubbling up on social media.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, look, I mean, I look forward, I don't look backward. their differences. And I will tell you that I had a conviction on each and every one of those things that drove me to that place. There were people that I hired and worked with that were fired by the Attorney General of Texas, and I disagreed with him on that. I had a personal reason to stand with some people who I think were good people. And I thought it was incumbent upon me to do that. I felt honor bound to do that. No apologies there. I like him. I like Angela, like his family. He's done a great job as attorney general fighting for Texas. But I'm not going to apologize for that. I stood up for what I thought was right. J6, I was adamantly opposed to what has been happening to the J6 folks. First thing I did out of the gate was call out how they've been attacked. Thomas Bass and I were the first ones to call out the treatment of the J6 individuals. But I had a disagreement about the electors. I had a disagreement about the president's push to just unilaterally say, I'm not going to count the electors when we only had 50 slates. Again, I'm not going to apologize for that. I can go down the list. I believe that you should stand up for what is right unapologetically. And I look right now, I'm not going to back down on saying that I'm not going to lift the debt ceiling without getting spending restraint. That's it. And, you know, the voters can decide that. But I'm unafraid because the only thing I fear is God. And the only thing that I fear is, you know, violating my trust and my honor. But politics is politics. Right. I don't get my strength from an elected office or an election certificate. I get my strength from people.
SPEAKER 11 :
And you were one of 38, not to exclude the folks in the Senate, but, you know, you were one of 38 in the House. Last quick question for you. Doge caucus. Yes. No. Are you part of it?
SPEAKER 03 :
I am not, but I'm not a part, I think, of any caucus except for the Freedom Caucus. I think maybe the Border Caucus. I'm not sure. I don't like to do all the caucuses, but I'm meeting with the back, talking to them, working with them, all the DOJ stuff. Marjorie, I think, and her committee on oversight will do a great job. I'm happy to work with the DOJ caucus. I just don't go join on the caucuses. I just work with people, whoever wants to work with me to accomplish stuff.
SPEAKER 11 :
There you go. Right there. You are incredibly consistent. And I mean, the House Freedom Caucus, I tell people, I'm like, you know, the country would be in a lot worse shape if it wasn't for the House Freedom Caucus. And that's that's God's honest truth. Congressman Chip Roy, you are a stalwart conservative fighter in D.C. And we appreciate that. We appreciate your time. I hope you have a blessed Christmas and a happy new year. Thank you, my friend.
SPEAKER 03 :
You too, Dana. Merry Christmas to you, Chris, your whole family. God bless you. Thanks for the support.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, I want to save money. I'm tired of my tax dollars going to Ukraine. I know what's up. That's why I am where I am. So I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 03 :
God bless you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. God bless. We have more to come, folks, as we wrap up this second hour. Stick with us back right after this.
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SPEAKER 06 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. So first and foremost, a Florida man crashed into a ditch, blew three times the legal limit, and then offered police just $100 to take him home. I don't think that's how that works, though. And again, it's Sheriff Grady Judd. Some of them sheriffs down there, I'm going to tell you what, they have very eventful weeks. You know what I mean? So apparently officers arrived. They found a driver crashed into a ditch. Okay. Breathalyzer said that he was in enhanced DUI territory. That's when somebody gets caught with a blood alcohol content of 0.15 or higher. And so, you know, he crashed a car in a ditch. You don't have any idea where you are. So then the guy, I mean, he... Gave officers, offered them $100 in cash to just take him home. And they're like, you know that's another charge, right? You cannot bribe a cop. That's actually like a criminal offense. So they ended up taking him. He went to jail. He's in the pokey. And he's got a slew of charges against him. Thankfully, no one was killed. But my word. I apologize. Florida Man was short. But actually, Florida Man was pretty well behaved last night. We have a whole third hour on the way next. Pack show. Stick with us.
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SPEAKER 11 :
And that is true. Already senile. Welcome back to the program. Top of this third hour. Dana Lash here with you. You can listen coast to coast, channel 347, DirecTV, also Rumble, where the discussion happens. And we're on X. We're everywhere. This is our last show of the new year. And coming up, we've got band names and apparently more.
SPEAKER 06 :
Things Dana would rather do.
SPEAKER 11 :
I didn't know you guys were making a list, like for real.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, no, Steve's on it. Steve was on it. Matter of fact, how many did you end up with, Steve? I know you got, what is it, a 10 that we're going to do later today? I narrowed it down to 10. I think I had about 25, something like that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had 34 band names and narrowed it down to 10.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that's how 2024 went for us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that was, yeah, 2024. There you go right there. So we've got a lot still to hit. And of course, we've been following this ongoing battle over, you know, the budget, the CR fight. Needs just to be a clean CR. I'm actually, so if you want to hear my discussion with Congressman Chip Roy, He was on with me last hour. We'll have that up on YouTube. We'll send it out on Substack, you know, all that jazz. But I was actually I mean, I actually disagree with him on the debt ceiling. He's like, no, I think it's good. I'm like, what? No, no, because you got to cut spending. We can't just and Lorraine made a good point. You can't just slow the rate of growth. You actually have to, like, I need to borrow Florida Man's machete and cut the spending. By the way, I just reminded myself this. We had a great listener who took a poll yesterday as to how many of our Floridian listeners own machetes. And you know what the answer was? All of them. All of them own machetes. And they're like, yeah, we got to use them to get through the brush. And I'm like, in your backyard? Do they all live in the swamp? I mean, for real. Everybody has a machete. I had one sweet woman. She said that she was 72 years old and she owned two. One for each hand. I mean, that's some dedication. So I got my answer because I always had Florida man stories that involved machetes. And I jokingly asked, is that a thing? And we had a great listener out there. It was like, let's take a poll. All the Floridians were like, oh yeah, we totally have them. One guy was like, I moved from Alaska to Florida and brought my machete. So now I want a machete. Why don't I have one? I mean, I have like really no brush to get there. It's all pretty low and like, you know, dry in Texas. But you know what I mean, right? All right. So I told you. that, I mean, we have a government shutdown looming, but Biden still sought fit to send more billions to Ukraine. And then, and then he decided, you know, I guess I'm going to go ahead and probably you're going to have to go ahead and forgive some of the debt for government workers too. Is that not something else? This is just wild, that he's doing it, still doing this. This is one of the things we're talking about, right? You can't be giving all of our money away during a time when government keeps having to spend to pay for all the ways that our government is frittering away money. See, it makes no sense. It makes zero sense. I mean, to say nothing about Social Security and all the other stuff that people have been cheated on. It's so irresponsible, but that's what he's doing. That's where we are. Now, A couple of other things to touch on because we have quite a bit still. And I don't even think I've gotten through everything, unfortunately. There's still so I I'm trying I'm trying to get everything in at the last minute here. So the so we've got the Ukraine funding. There's the student or the government debt forgiveness. So we have that. Yeah. Great job. Thanks, Biden. He had, by the way, I wanted to put Biden had a it was a four point two eight billion. Yeah, that's right. $4.28 billion. I wanted to make sure that I had the correct amount. Student loan relief for public workers. So that's for really like government stuff, law enforcement, etc. They wanted to cancel $4.28 billion in student loan debt for 55,000 public service workers as part of their public service loan forgiveness. They got approved for debt cancellation today. And I just... I got a questions about this. I think when you're talking about student debt, why did he only do these public service workers like last? First off, that's the first question that I had, right? Like this was the last group that he had issued and I hate using the word because it's not what it is, forgiveness, right? This was the last group. Like everyone else was government, like people who worked in the White House. He forgave all their loans first, right? Why were these guys last? I mean, it's another handout. They're trying to do everything possible just to, you know, check all their boxes, hand out as much as they can before the new administration comes into power in January, before the next session of Congress happens. takes their seats. He announced it at 5 a.m. this morning, 4 a.m. Central. And so 55,000 public service workers. You're not canceling anything. You're just making all the rest of us pay for it. That's all it is. It's a massive loan. It's a massive handout. It's vote buying. I mean, that's what they're rewarding people for their vote, because those are still a lot of some of the same people that vote for Biden. So this is just more of the same. Now, speaking of Democrats, this is a fantastical headline, Kane. Are you ready for this one?
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, boy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Poot booty juice. Twenty twenty eight.
SPEAKER 06 :
What?
SPEAKER 11 :
For what? Oh, for president again. Get out of here. Totally for reals. Mm hmm. So apparently Pothole Pete is going to make another run.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, for U.S. president. Well, yeah. What did you think I was talking about? I didn't think it was even possible.
SPEAKER 11 :
He was already vice rear admiral of the canoe fleet at Camp Wimpy Tonka. So, you know, he's on an ascendancy trajectory here.
SPEAKER 06 :
I see it as such an impossibility. I didn't even think you were talking about America. But OK, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I mean, they made him, you know, Department of Transportation secretary because, you know, he's gay. So he figured, well, you know, if they gave me that position, why wouldn't they give me this position? It's like you get a trophy just for being here. Right. Right. Right. So apparently he's making all of these media appearances locally, like talk radio and all this stuff. And he's like being very receptive to the idea. Right. He's being very receptive to the idea. People have been asking him about it. But he was so bad when he was mayor of South Bend that Democrats made fun of him. I mean, it was a solid Democrat area in a sea of red. He could not, that was as high as he was going to go as a Democrat in Indiana, which is why he relocated to Michigan. Now he's, you know, he thinks that because they rewarded him so that they could say they were diverse. Oh, look, we've got, They act like you're picking team members for Darktide. Okay, we've got a Psyker and we've got an Ogryn and we have a veteran and we have a Zealot. Okay, we've got our woman of color. We've got the gay dude. I mean, it's like that's not how it works. You're supposed to look at merit. That was a reach, wasn't it? Was that a reach for a reference? Kind of. You know that's my Christmas card, right? Yeah, I got lazy. I'm like, you know what? Here's what you got. A screen cap of me and my family couch co-opping as our characters. Merry Christmas. It's legit what I sent out. That's actually what I did. People are not going to know what it is. I didn't even explain it. I forgot that I didn't explain it until afterwards. And so it's just that. And it says Merry Christmas. People are going to have no idea. Yay. Can be like, what is this weirdo? But anyway, back to my story about poop booty shoes here. He's yeah, he thinks that he now he hasn't announced a run, but come on, he's flirting with it. He's not ruling it out either. So, you know, I am all for him doing that because that's hysterical. Can you imagine him trying to fight it out with Gavin Newsom? They're going to try to act like they're going to fight over who is. And I don't mean this is like a mean thing, but they're going to try to, you know, their one identity block that they can both grab is, you know, he came up as mayor of San Francisco. That's isn't that kind of considered like the alphabet capital of the world? Yeah. And Pete booty booty juice is going to be like, well, I'm actually I actually am a gay dude. And so they're going to fight over. Well, I was the mayor of the gay dude town. I'm actually gay dude. It's going to be an identity politic off. I'm here for that. I am completely okay with that. Let's go ahead and have it. Seems, you know. Did you guys see that Perry Farrell was ranting about Elon Musk? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Rosa DeLauro. Yes. She does look like him. Yeah. She was quite upset because this is what I've been telling you about. The media is hell bent on trying to pin everything on Musk. They think that that's going to shame Musk from partnering with not even just Republicans, but people who are tired of what Democrats have been doing for the past, you know, four years. And they want to they want people to be fighting over who is perceived to be in power. So she was then. She's from Connecticut. She's been in office for like ever, right? Forever. Notice how everyone used to make fun of Kyrsten Sinema for her eclectic outfits. No one on the left has ever made fun of Rosa DeLauro. But she was losing her mind over Elon Musk and saying that, you know, yelling about the government shutdown and all this. This is audio soundbite 13. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Read on a bill.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is like the worst song ever from James Addiction.
SPEAKER 12 :
And you know what? They got scared because President Musk told them. President Musk said, don't do it. Don't do it. Shut the government down. Imagine. It's actually not what he said. What does he know about what people go through is when the government shuts down. Are his employees furloughed? Hell no. Is he furloughed? No. And when you shut the government down, people don't get paid. Why is she trying to do the Southern Baptist preacher speaking technique?
SPEAKER 11 :
She's from Connecticut. This is the worst Jane's Addiction song I've ever seen, Cain. What album was that on? That's like the worst video ever. Been caught stealing. Just the worst.
SPEAKER 05 :
Almost as bad as the latest video.
SPEAKER 11 :
Huh?
SPEAKER 05 :
Almost as bad as the latest video of Perry Farrell.
SPEAKER 11 :
Perry Farrell's had a really rough year, right? I mean, he's there mad in Congress. He had gotten to a fight, you know, on stage. And then now he's like in Congress mad about Elon Musk. I mean, just a really tough year for Perry Farrell. No apologies to Perry Farrell. I realize how mean that was. You know, you don't want to do that to him. We... We have a lot more to hit. We've got headlines on the way. I still have a bunch of audio for you as well, because I have look, I've got so much audio where they're where they keep trying to say, oh, President Musk, President Musk. Musk is the fourth branch of government. Oh, Musk is he's the puppet master. It goes on and on and on and on. That's the narrative that they want to stick. They think that that's going to drive division in the inner workings of the transition team and the president elects camp. I hope no one takes this bait because they are going to push this and push it. They never had these criticisms with George Soros. They never had these criticisms with Michael Bloomberg. They never had these criticisms with Mark Zuckerberg. They never had him with Warren Buffett. They never had him with Jeff Bezos. They never had him with Jack over Twitter originally. They never had him with any of the billionaires on the left. Oh, but now all of a sudden with Musk, they're upset. And he's doing even less than what any of the, he's not funding DA races across the country. He's not buying elected seats. Stop it.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, all right. So, first up, American Airlines, an American Airlines plane flooded with water mid-flight. Bewildering the travelers. That would be kind of freaky, though, right? I got to say, I'd be a little weirded out. It was International Business Times. Apparently, it started in the rear bathroom. That sounds gross. Just going to say it sounds a little nasty. It started in the rear bathroom and then it flooded the plane. It was during a flight from Dallas to Minneapolis. Water streamed down the aisle. That's toilet water. You know that, right? It's poo water. That's nasty. They said the inflate movie was Titanic. They were joking. So they ended up having to land. Apparently, there was another flight from Dallas to Madrid in August where they had an overflowing bathroom and they had to land. What is with the stuff coming out of doubt? I mean, I know it's a hub, but my gosh. I'm a little nervous. A lickable lollipop invention lets you taste in virtual reality. This looks gross. It's like a VR experience, and you can taste in virtual environments. The interface simulates up to nine flavors. and can be combined with smells to make the sensation of taste feel lifelike. Or, now hear me out, you could just like eat a sucker. I don't wanna, this is, people are trying so hard to recreate real experiences in the digital. When you could just have a real experience, you know. I don't get that. Sidebar. I hate doing things in games. That's why I hate Fallout. I hate Fallout. Sorry. I do. Because you have to do basic day-to-day things. I have to eat. I have to do laundry. You don't have to do laundry. We have to do basic chores. I don't want to do basic chores in games. Right? I don't want to do that. That's why I hate this stuff. Cows fell out of a trailer on a turnpike. Oh, are they okay? They were okay. They were just, they went to the ditch and started eating grass and straw. So they were okay. A seven foot tall 2025 numerals. Those arrived in Times Square ahead of New Year's Eve. I don't know who would go to Times Square for New Year's Eve. I don't like massive crowds. I don't like like screaming and all the drunk people. I could not even imagine being there with the overload from the lights, like a sensory overload. And then it all smells like piss and pretzels anyway up there. And gas. I just I couldn't I couldn't do it. That's just like way too much, man. Way too much. And let's see. Last but not least. Oh, I think I ran out. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I got one more. The Stranger Things final season finally finished filming. They're all grown up now, basically, right? I don't know what I think about it. No, I mean, I liked them as little kids. As long as they can keep that kitsch feeling, I think it'll be cool. All right. We're going to do some fun stuff before we wind up the last show of the year. So stick with us. We got a lot more coming up next.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. You can listen coast to coast. Channel 347, DirecTV. We're at Rumble. We're at X. Yes, that was Wonderful Christmas Time by Paul McCartney. A song, apparently, which half of you out there hate. Because I get email every single time we play it. People who are like, I love that song. And others who are like, why do you play the worst song? It's not Christmas until that song plays. So it's played. So welcome back. Alright, so we've been heavy... into politics this is the last show of the year we need to ease it on down to christmasville we got to go down and like chill get ready to celebrate the birth of our lord and savior jesus christ can i get an amen cane and cane is burnt what do you got over there tell the folks what you're doing because they can't see i'm simply warming i'm simply warming frankincense So this is what one of the Magi brought Jesus.
SPEAKER 06 :
One of the three gifts.
SPEAKER 11 :
We talk about this every year, and I'm fascinated. Because I always tell my kids, Jesus only got three presents. You ain't better than Jesus. You get three. It's all, and I never, never given him frankincense. But, you know, I feel like maybe it should, because that's an expensive gift. That's the other thing I want to talk about. So let's just get into it, because our next guest, Cain, you've known this gentleman for quite some time. Hello, hello. You highly recommend him.
SPEAKER 07 :
I do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Our friend John Lanius, he's with Sheehan Wellness, and he also is the director of community outreach for the Special Operations Charity Network. And they do a lot of really great work. And we have their URL. We'll put all that in the bottom. So he's also... like a potions master. And I've said this before, but he legit is. I actually advertise myself as that. And he works with the VA to help veterans because this was a big fight in Congress this year with PTSD and using incense and other things to help our veterans, maybe a little bit more non-traditional or more traditional, whatever way you look at it. But he now joins us via Skype. John, it's so good to see you. Thank you for joining us. Now, set it straight for me, because if I were to give my kids some frankincense, they would be like, what is this? But that's actually a pretty bougie gift. It was a bougie gift back in the day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, so frankincense actually is worth more than its weight in gold, because it was healing, and it would calm the mind. It would help the body in healing. And so the fact that Jesus got the gift of frankincense, myrrh, and gold represents a number of things. Number one, it signifies Jesus as the King of Kings. And so when you give your kids frankincense, you could basically be telling them that they're better than everybody else, if you want, if you want.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know. They've been pretty. They've been all right this year. I mean, I got to think about it. So it's like it's like the Louis Vuitton of of like incense, like frankincense and my I always wonder if I'm saying that right. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's correct. Actually, there's 19 different varieties of frankincense. There's about seven different varieties of myrrh, and so each one does a little bit different. So one of the ones that's considered the finest is Boswellia sacra, obviously from the Latin sacred. You've got Ferrara, you've got Socotra, you've got a number of other ones, but each one does a little bit different. And how it transforms the quality of our consciousness. And that is exactly what you're tapping into about the VA and the fact that people get PTSD.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fragrance is huge. Fragrance is huge with that. I mean, because you can smell something and it takes you somewhere.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, well, what it does is that it accesses the limbic system. And the limbic system is where we control our emotions and how we regulate and our memories. And so when the VA talks about 7% of veterans will experience PTSD at some point in their lives, and that number increases to 29% for veterans of operations, Iraqi freedom and enduring freedom. We actually use fragrance at the Special Operations Charity Network as part of the Find Your Tribe initiative to really have people find themselves again before the trauma. And so the easiest way to explain this is that imagine when you smell your favorite flower or when you smell fresh bread, how it relaxes you, how it re-centers you. So we are taking these programs as a part of the Find Your Tribe initiative to empowering our heroes and their families for lasting change.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's awesome. We're talking with our friend, John, John Lanius. I always want to say his name and stress the different syllable. But he's I mean, he's a friend of the show, has been for quite some time. He's super knowledgeable about all of this stuff. And you can check out the Special Operations Charity Network as well. We'll have the URL down there and we'll put it up on the video on YouTube as well. This because I have a lot of friends who who were our combat veterans and they were lobbying Congress to whether it was. controlled psychedelic uses, which no one's out there advocating for me to go and drop acid and do all these drugs and that. But there's a lot of studies that have shown that for those vets who really saw some stuff and then had some trouble adjusting when they came back, that even things like this have all helped them to re-acclimate back into civilian life. But I don't understand why that's such a fight. Why are so many people seemingly resistant to that? Is it just because of the stereotypes?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I think it is that. But it's also that when you talk about people going out and doing a hero dose of psychedelics, it really does change the brain chemistry. And so, for example, Mark Quinn, our director of programs nationwide, testified in support of this in Missouri. I am not personally advocating for psychedelics. What I'm saying is that if we are doing the research... And when we're doing this in a controlled way, we can balance both psychedelics and psychotropics. So as a quick example, psychotropics can be things like alcohol. It can be things like frankincense and basically all the different things in nature. that actually change the quality of our consciousness and so you know balancing the two of these things and doing this under very strict regulation I think is very interesting in that I'm not for anybody just going out into the woods and eating 10 pounds of mushrooms but what I am interested in is how can we use this to again to return people back before the trauma so some of the work that we do in in mindfulness and healthy coping and and mental well-being these are all part of the programs that we do at the special operations charity network things like fishing programs cycling programs competitive shooting programs and so if we're looking holistically at how we're able to return ourselves to a state of calmness and centeredness this is what we're doing for our veterans and and for our heroes that are really have made a huge difference and have seen things that most people never want to talk about or even see ever again.
SPEAKER 11 :
You just gave me a great segue. So speaking of things that people have seen, so we've been talking about drones for Cain, how long weeks now? And I was really praying for aliens, John, really praying for aliens. So Cain tells me, and I need to hear about this story. Your grandfather was in World War II and he saw some stuff, orbs and things. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
yes so so my grandfather was on the USS Forrester and they started in the North Atlantic but then actually found themselves in the South Pacific and so I just wrote a book called Love and Letters in World War II which I'm looking for a publisher but one of the chapters of the book Wrote around the fact that my grandfather had tons of handwritten notes on experiencing orbs in the South Pacific during the war. And officially, they were allowed to document them. They were allowed to see them. They would fly around the ship. It's exactly what we're seeing today. Exactly what we're seeing today. That's wild. And they were not allowed to fire on them unless they attacked the ship. Now, this never happened. But here's what's interesting is that we have seen this same phenomenon going back all the way even to World War I and before. Now, obviously, the further back we go, you know, the reports get a little strange. But I wish my book was out right now because he's describing things better than I think anyone's able to describe them now, even with their cell phone cameras.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow. And what's amazing to me is that you're saying it's the exact same thing now as what they saw in World War II. And there are so many accounts of that. So that's almost like an unchanging technology. It was so strange to us back then. We had nowhere near that capability back in World War II. We still technically don't really now, especially for some of the stuff that just goes from the from the sky right to the sea. That's wild. That to me, that's really hard to explain. You back back then. And, you know, when your grandfather was was in the military, you can't really say, oh, that's just our government. We didn't have that. No government had that capability at the time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Well, and also the fact that they were, I mean, they were isolated. I mean, they're in the South Pacific, like not near shore. And they're seeing these things and they're documenting them. And it's not just him. I mean, I've got notes from his other shipmates. And so it's just very interesting about what's happening in that, do we know what's going on? Do we not know what's going on? Is this something that's been with us for thousands of years? I mean, when you talk about ancient aliens... I know you love that, but here's the question. Is this a phenomenon that's been a part of Earth forever and we're now just seeing it? Are these actual intelligences? So who knows? But again, I think what's important to take from this is the fact that this isn't a new phenomenon. This is something that goes back thousands of years. And could it be ancient aliens? Maybe. Could it be something else? Probably. Who knows?
SPEAKER 11 :
They seem very courteous if they're if it is ancient aliens and they're just staying out of our business. That's a very courteous thing to do. Right. It feels like they're not malevolent in that way. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, so what we've done is that we've we've taken military psychedelics and orbs and put them all into a thing around Christmas. We've got the bright lights. We've got things.
SPEAKER 11 :
God bless America. I love it. Merry Christmas. This is great. I have to say before I let you go, John, I can smell the frankincense. I always you always think that incense is supposed to like it's going to smell hippie ish. It smells like soap. Like it smells like somebody just took a nice bath. It's like a nice powdery kind of. Yeah, it's almost like a perfume house, like nice powder parfum. That's what it smells like, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's very nice. It's beautiful, and it totally calms you, which I believe connects you to the divine. And so speaking of divine, I've got a free gift for any of your listeners who who reaches out to SheehanWellness.com and sends me a note. Also, if you go to SpecOpsCharity.com, that's SpecOpsCharity.com, learn more about the Special Operations Charity Network, all of our programs, and we invite you to donate and really be a part of our huge programs in 2025 because we're out to make a huge positive difference for our veterans.
SPEAKER 11 :
Love what it is that you all do. And we got the Sheehan Wellness right there as well. John, we so appreciate you coming on and sharing your insight with us every year. You do such a great job. And I know, and by the way, they're also on Twitter. So it's at Sheehan Wellness on Twitter as well. John Lanius, always so good to see you, my friend. God bless you. Merry Christmas to you. Thank you so much for giving us some of your time today and your expertise. That's always so insightful.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you, Dan. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Have a great new year.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. We have more to come, folks, as we wrap up this third hour because we have band names. Yep. And Stephen Cain apparently got tired of hearing me say things I would rather do.
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SPEAKER 11 :
I wish that the people listening to the simul or watching the simulcast were playing that This Christmas by Donny Hathaway, which is the other great Christmas song. You know, I mean, you get the bells in there, you get that beat in there. Welcome back. All right, last show of the year. So we have a tradition in what we do. We always come up with band names every year, as you know. Just random, different, everyday things that stick out to us. And we're like, you know, that actually would be a great band name. And this year's list is... Pretty exceptional, I gotta say. So Kane first, we got two things for you. First, I'm gonna hand it over to you. Top 10 fictional band names.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is correct. And then we will go to, Steve has compiled this, because I think it was Steve that really drove this, to be honest with you. Because you often are not happy with how things are, and you would then tell us what you would rather do instead of those things. So that's gonna be an interesting list, which is gonna come up after this. But of course, we do have the drum rolls, don't we, Steve? Here we go. All right, cut. I got a real one. You got a real one? Oh, wow. All right, cut 10. Number 10 of these, by the way, top 10 fictional band names mentioned on The Dana Show inadvertently in 2024. Suicide Pod. Suicide Pod.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sounds like an XS song. Suicide Pod.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'd go see him. Dirty Burglar.
SPEAKER 11 :
That sounds... Dirty burglar. Number eight.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hillbilly Hessians. I love that one. Hillbilly Hessians. I can just imagine seeing these people on stage.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's like a bluegrass cover of German songs. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Number seven. Hippo Permission.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hippo Permission. Number six, murder puppies.
SPEAKER 11 :
I love it. It's like meat puppets, but with a murder.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. Murder puppies. Number five, alpha brats.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's so good. Alpha brats.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's like an electro DJ band. It's the voice of a new generation.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Number four, Gasoline Enema.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's like a Kentucky Headhunter cover band.
SPEAKER 06 :
Love it. Gasoline Enema. Could have been a song, but a great band. Number three, Junkyard Gators.
SPEAKER 11 :
Girl!
SPEAKER 06 :
Remember that story.
SPEAKER 11 :
A Skinner cover band. Woo!
SPEAKER 06 :
We had about Florida.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Number two, Aggressive Baptism.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ooh, that's like a prog hymn.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hymns. Aggressive Baptism. And number one, the top ten fictional band names of the Dana Show in the year 2024. Is... Space murder.
SPEAKER 11 :
Space murder.
SPEAKER 06 :
Space murder.
SPEAKER 11 :
And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. All those names. For keeping track of all of this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Were mentioned on the Dana Show during the live broadcast in 2024.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, Steve, real quick, because we are running out of time. Explain what this is and get.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 08 :
Alright, so we try to suggest things as producers on the show for us to bring up or cuts to run, and sometimes Dana doesn't want to do it, and she would rather do these things instead, so we'll run this real quick. Things Dana would rather do. Number 10, talk about how Space Marines is a three-player co-op. Uh... Number nine, feed myself into a wood chipper. That's number nine. Number eight, drag down a gravel road. That's number eight. Number seven, wear someone else's Crocs instead of her own. Number six, shot out of a cannon into space.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 08 :
Top ten, have crappy gas station sushi.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 08 :
Number four, have someone sell hermeth. Number three, choke to death on the hustlers of dead cicadas.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
Number two, talk about how video games and anime and grilling meet. Oh, my gosh. And the number one things you would rather do, gouge your eyes out with flu-ridden toothpicks. So there we go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Those are things you actually said, by the way. You said all things.
SPEAKER 11 :
I believe it. We're very passionate here on the program.
SPEAKER 06 :
Your mouth. Those were your words.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I remember the husks of dead cicadas because I think you almost actually barfed over there. yeah you almost spewed man it was rough all right real quick with the time we have left i want to thank you guys for supporting us throughout this year i mean we we love hanging out with you we do it because we love what we do but we also love uh just talking with all of you guys every single day and so i so appreciate your fellowship and i appreciate your trust and i appreciate your company every single day we're grateful for you for juan uh for kane for steve for everybody that's associated with the show as well, Radio America, the first. We're grateful for you all. Thank you guys for making the show such a success, and we've got a lot of stuff coming up for you in the new year. Also, big thanks to Lorraine for the chat and everything else. Everybody associated with the show, God love you. Merry Christmas. Have a happy new year. I'm going to be back behind the mic with you come January 6th. Yes. God bless, guys.
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Tune in as we delve into critical discussions surrounding our nation's legislative process, providing a panoramic view behind the scenes of Washington, D.C. Journalist Lindsay McPherson sheds light on the unfolding events while Kena Gonzalez offers a reflective take rooted in Biblical values. This week we also celebrate a major pro-life victory as retail giants respond to ethical concerns, and explore what it means to equip oneself with a Biblical worldview in the face of national challenges.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, good afternoon and welcome to this Friday edition of Washington Watch. I am Jody Heiss, Senior Vice President here at the Family Research Council and President of FRC Action. An honor to be with you here on this Friday and thank you so much for joining us. Wow, yet again, we've got a lot of breaking news and information to bring your way. Let me give you some of the highlights. It has been yet another frantic day of activity on Capitol Hill as lawmakers have raced to work out another agreement that will fund the federal government past tonight's midnight deadline.
SPEAKER 16 :
We have a unified Republican conference. There is a unanimous agreement in the room that we need to move forward. I will not telegraph to you the specific details of that yet because I've got a couple of things I've got to wrap up in a few moments upstairs, but I expect that we will be proceeding forward. We will not have a government shutdown, and we will meet our obligations.
SPEAKER 11 :
That was Speaker Mike Johnson speaking to reporters before heading into a meeting to work out some of the final details for that new deal. So what is the new deal? It looks like the text just came out literally probably 30 minutes ago, but it appears to be about a 118-page bill. And according to reports, there are plans to begin the debate tomorrow. immediately. In fact, we're hearing right now debates are underway. So probably we can expect votes within the next hour. If those results come in during the program, we will most certainly let you know. But so much is going on, it can be hard to keep up with. So we'll be getting the latest here in just a few moments when I'm joined by Lindsay McPherson, who's Capitol Hill reporter for The Washington Times. So she'll be with us here in just a moment. And looking at all that's been unfolding over the past few days, what do we need to be keeping in mind and how should we be praying? Well, we'll discuss this later in the program when I'm joined by Kena Gonzalez, the Senior Director of Government Affairs here at FRC. And while there seems to be so much chaos and uncertainty in so many of the headlines today, it's good that there's also some good news. So take a sigh, a big deep breath. We have yet another retail giant that has removed the abortion drug from its website after media outlets like the Washington Stand drew a great deal of public attention. We'll talk about this when I'm joined later by Mary Zok, who's the director of FRC's Center for Human Dignity. And then to close out the program today, I'll be joined by David Claussen for our weekly Biblical Worldview segment. And this week, we're going to be taking a very close look at some of the issues that have been facing our nation all week and even as we speak right now. How should Christians be looking at these things from a biblical perspective? We'll talk about that with David Claussen later on. So as always, we've got a lot coming your way. You don't want to miss any of it, but if in case you do, you can go check it out at TonyPerkins.com. And one more reminder before we jump into the program today, this Christmas season, Family Research Council is inviting you to join us in shining the light of biblical truth here in Washington, D.C. and beyond. These certainly are difficult times, perilous times, and we here at FRC We really see ourselves kind of as watchmen on the wall. We're here to try to protect faith, family, and freedom from all sorts of attacks from multiple fronts. And thanks to a $1.5 million challenge match, every single dollar that you give to FRC before December 31st will be doubled. DOUBLED. WHAT AN IMPACT YOU CAN HAVE. SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME STAND ALONGSIDE OF FRC AS WE CONTINUE TO BE A STRONG BIBLICAL VOICE HERE IN THIS CITY. YOU CAN JOIN US BY TEXTING THE WORD LIGHT TO 67742 AND TOGETHER WE CAN ALL HAVE AN ETERNAL IMPACT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S JUMP INTO THE PROGRAM FOR TONIGHT. As I mentioned just a few moments ago, we have a brand-new text, 118-page bill, and it would protect the federal government from a deadline shutdown tonight, and a vote could happen literally within the next hour. And the clock is ticking. I mean, as of now, we are less than seven hours away before that government shutdown would take place. So joining me now to discuss the latest developments is Lindsay McPherson. She is a Capitol Hill reporter for The Washington Times. Lindsay, welcome to Washington Watch. Long time no see. Good to see you again.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good to see you again, too.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. So, Lindsay, tell us, what's the latest? What is going on right now?
SPEAKER 07 :
So as you mentioned, that bill has just been released probably in the last half hour. We finally have the text. They have a plan to vote on it within the next hour, as you have said. And the big question is whether they can get Democratic support. They've decided to bring this bill forward under processing. As you know, suspension of the rules, which requires two-thirds support of the House rather than a simple majority, that means Democratic votes will be needed if they're going to successfully pass it. Democrats, having just got the text along with everyone else, are trying to come through and decide what they're going to do. It is largely identical to a bill that was brought to the floor yesterday and failed, and that was all Democrats and 38 Republicans, all but two Democrats, I should say, and 38 Republicans voted against. But the major difference is that it strips out A TWO-YEAR EXTENSION IN THE DEBT LIMIT THAT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP HAD DEMANDED. SO LARGELY OTHER THAN THAT, THE BILL IS MOSTLY IDENTICAL. THERE IS AT LEAST ONE CHANGE WE NOTICED THAT WOULD DROP, AN EXTENSION OF CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES PROGRAMS. THERE'S A BRIEF SECTION TO EXTEND SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE DURATION OF THE CR OF MARCH 14TH. THAT SECTION WAS DROPPED. NOT CLEAR WHY. NOT SURE IF THAT WILL BOTHER DEMOCRATS. SO EVERYTHING IS EVOLVING. that for some time in the next hour, and we'll find out soon enough whether they have enough votes to pass. House Democrats are currently huddling as we speak to kind of decide what they're going to do. And as their votes are needed, that is kind of the crucial junction at this point. And if it gets through the House, it'll probably get through the Senate, and then we'll get to a conclusion here sometime in the next 24 hours or so, depending how quickly the Senate can come together and speed up their own process.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so last night we had 38 Republicans vote against it. Two Democrats voted for it. The rest of the Democrats voted against it. And yet this is going to need two-thirds votes because it's a suspension bill. So if virtually all Democrats voted against it last night, along with 38 Republicans and Are the changes sufficient, you think, to bring the Democrats on board? That raises serious questions to me as to whether or not that would make a difference.
SPEAKER 07 :
Potentially, the Democrats had two issues. One, they were really upset that the original bipartisan deal they negotiated, which included a ton of other measures that are not in this version or yesterday's version, you know, were dropped. They had a bipartisan agreement among the so-called four corners, which are the top four congressional leaders in Congress, and they are upset that that was scuttled effectively. You know, President-elect Donald Trump didn't like it. He said it gave away too many things to Democrats. And he also started to demand an increase in the debt limit to be added. So that was added to yesterday's version and then dropped. So I think that the dropping of the debt limit will help Democrats to some degree in that they did not want to deal with that now. They are worried about approving a debt limit hike before Republicans take up an extension of the tax cuts that they were able to add a lot to the deficit. and other things. So that could help, but we don't know yet. They're just getting this bill and meeting now on it. So we will find out soon enough whether they will back us or not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Yeah, that's interesting because one of the big question marks I had about this was what would be the reaction of the Democrats on the debt ceiling issue? But you believe that taking that out of the equation right now will actually help the Democrats come on board. Is that right?
SPEAKER 07 :
I believe it will, just because they did not want to deal with that now before Republicans come into office and pass through reconciliation. They're planning a lot of things to tax cuts and spending cuts and different things that will impact the deficit. And the debt limit, while it officially January 1st will be unsuspended, it's been suspended since June 2023. It doesn't actually. The statutory bargaining limit's not going to hit. Treasury has extraordinary measures that they can use to kind of continue paying down debt obligations. So it's not really an issue until sometime, experts estimate, in June when Treasury runs out of that wiggle room. Congress has time to deal with this. Democrats didn't want to deal with it now. Republicans also kind of had some concerns about dealing with it now without spending cuts, and that's why they agreed. to drop it for now. And they did have a tentative agreement coming out of the Republican conference where they discussed that they will deal with the debt limit next year as part of these reconciliation bills where they're dealing with the other things, spending less than tax reform.
SPEAKER 11 :
So what are you expecting on the Republican side? I would think there probably are some that are going to struggle with this because of the lack of pay-fors with the disaster relief and the farm bill. Do you still think there may be 38 opposing it, or do you think that number will go down on the Republican side?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it could go down a little, but there definitely are a good, at least more than a dozen, I would say, fiscal conservatives who wanted the disaster relief to be paid for and probably will still oppose this. There are also a handful of Republicans who always oppose CRs, you know. don't like CRS. But I do think it will be slightly lower than 38. I think the debt limit without the spending reforms was a big issue for a lot of Republicans as well, and that's why that number was as high as it was. But you were colleagues with these people, so you might have better insight.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know if I have a better insight or not. I mean, it's a lot of moving parts right now. But let me ask you this. I think this is important for our viewers and our listeners to kind of have a perspective on this. Obviously, considering tomorrow is Saturday, how bad would it be if the government does have a shutdown after midnight tonight, but a deal is worked out before Monday, let's just say? What would...
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, very minimal impact if they get this passed before Monday or even if they're on track. So if it passes the House and the Senate is just jumping through procedural hoops, the Office of Management Budget doesn't typically initiate their full shutdown procedures. In that case, they know that the, you know, it's just about matter mechanics and getting it passed, particularly over the weekend when most government workers aren't working. It's not like they have to. show up to work anyway, so it doesn't matter too much. And all the people that typically work on the weekends in the government, most of those people are essential and would continue to go to work, TSA agents, border agents, all that stuff.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, I think that's good for people to kind of understand this. All right, so let me just push a little bit further, Lindsay, if I can on this. So what would be the most likely scenarios if the vote tonight fails? What would happen?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the Republicans did have an alternative plan that they were debating, which they could try to do, which is basically to split these pieces up. And they were going to do three separate bills. This was an offer that they discussed during their conference meeting today, to have a separate bill that has the funding extension through March 14th, a separate bill that has the disaster rate, and a separate bill that has the economic aid to farmers. And then to vote those all separately under a rule that might combine them when they send them to the Senate, but then they would have separate votes. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY THE NEXT PLAN TO GO BACK TO THAT, BUT THAT DOES HAVE SOME ISSUES WHERE THE DISASTER AID WILL STILL NEED DEMOCRATS' SUPPORT, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, THE CONSERVATIVES HERE DON'T LIKE THAT THAT'S NOT OFFSET.
SPEAKER 11 :
SO WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS? I MEAN, HERE THE VOTE'S VIRTUALLY GOING TO BE STARTING HERE ANY MOMENT. WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN YOUR HEART?
SPEAKER 07 :
I THINK in my heart that given the closeness to the funding deadline, that Democrats will accept this and, you know, live to fight another day on the other stuff that they were upset that got excluded. But I don't want to say 100 percent certainty because this past couple of days have been pretty wild.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, they have. Lindsay McPherson, thank you so much. Reporter with the Capitol, Capitol Hill reporter with The Washington Times. Thank you so much. Good to see you again. Hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you. Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, friends, a lot still unfolding even as we speak, so you don't want to go anywhere. After the break, we're going to get another perspective on the events unfolding on Capitol Hill. I'll be joined by FRC Senior Director of Government Affairs, Kena Gonzalez. So much more coming your way here on Washington Watch. Trust me, you don't want to go anywhere. We'll be back right after the break. Stay tuned.
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SPEAKER 11 :
a good, good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch on this last Friday before Christmas. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heiss. Glad to have you on board with us. All right. As lawmakers on Capitol Hill continue to work against the clock to try to keep the federal government open, I want to bring in my next guest. And together, let's try to provide another perspective on all of the unfolding events. So joining me now is Kena Gonzalez. He's a senior director of government affairs here at the Family Research Council. Kena, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thank you so much for joining me. Merry Christmas, Jody. Merry Christmas. Listen, if there has ever been a time that we needed a Christmas celebration, now is the time. There was so much going on, and now would be a great time to get a nice Christmas present under the tree from Washington, D.C. Look, I know you have been on Capitol Hill all week, on and off. You've got so much that you have been tracking. What's your overall thoughts on how the battle regarding government funding has been playing out?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, folks, if your hope is in Washington, D.C., it is misplaced, and we are watching that happen in real time. Well said. We'll have something under the Christmas tree, I'm sure. That seems to be the only certainty in Washington, is that Congress will not be working over Christmas. And I think for all of us, those on the Hill, those like us, you and I, off the Hill but observing, and folks at home, that's a good thing. that Congress will not be working. What's going to emerge from this, as Lindsey laid out so well just now, we really don't know. There have been several attempts. I think it's important to step back from the urgency of the moment, certainly the hype in the news media that drives ratings, sort of the fear, will the government shut down and will that affect you? that kind of thing, and take a longer view at what—a longer look, step back and take a longer view look at what's going on, you have several different factions, even within the Republican Party, right, as this plays out. angling for different things. There are a great many Republicans who have come to Washington, served in Washington for many years, and are very happy with business as normal and are not that concerned, really, at the end of the day, that we continue to drive up the national debt and the deficit every year. deficit spending doesn't bother them. There are a few who that really does bother, and they're working to try to reverse that. And then there are some that are saying those that are working to reverse that aren't working fast enough. So the Republican Party is not unified. In a normal year, which I'm not sure we'll ever see again, you would have a large enough margin of either a Democrat majority in Congress or a Republican majority in Congress that a few discontents here and there around the fringes may or may not impact every debate. But with margins so narrow, each of these factions now becomes really critical to these kinds of debates, and they have competing goals. And that's what we're seeing playing out in Congress right now, is an actual debate in real time about the future of our country.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, well said. And I couldn't agree with you more. I don't know that we will ever see large majorities again, at least not for a long, long time. Even the way they've redrawn the district line almost ensures across the country that whoever's in the majority will be so by a razor-thin majority. So what's your take on what's going on? As you mentioned, Lindsay, just a few moments ago, she has described now we have a plan A which failed, plan B failed. Now we're looking at plan C, which is very much like plan B. And if that doesn't work, we have a plan D hanging out there. I mean, what are we looking at here, particularly as you mentioned the rising national debt? It all, to me at least, doesn't seem at this point to be addressing the problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and there's disagreement over which problems to address first, when, and how. Picture if you're part of a family discussion, maybe a husband and wife, negotiating over the budget. You might have some disagreements. Now take those two people and multiply that by 535. That's what we have on Capitol Hill. There's just disagreement about what comes first, what comes second, what to do. And as I said previously, differences over the ultimate gains, goals that people are trying to gain. So that's what we're witnessing on TV. And we need to understand some of the over-the-top rhetoric that we're hearing right now is people— some of it, not all of it. Some of it is quite passionate and quite principled. But some of it is just pushing to see how much they can get and how close. Congress has been playing chicken, frankly, with several deadlines for a very, very long time, for decades. These funding fights always come up at Christmastime. It's always about funding the government. It's always about a government shutdown. And it's frequently about raising the debt limit. so that we don't default on our national debt. Very few times do we have a substantive conversation on reducing the national debt, reducing and getting rid of the deficit, and driving toward true reform in the long term. So as Christians, as we're observing that, we should be prayerful. And Jody, I think Christmas time is a great time for that. We think of Christmas carols, we think of joy at Christmas, but if you think of the Christmas hymn, the great Christmas hymn, O Come, O Come, Emmanuel, that is based on an Old Testament lament when the children of Israel were looking forward to the coming of Christ. And where did Christ come? Not only to lowly Bethlehem, to a poor family and born in a manger, but he came to a nation that was occupied under occupation by the Roman Empire. And America, in a very different way, has come, I believe, into a spiritual bondage to debt. Our current debt limit is over $31 trillion. That's the legal limit beyond which we cannot borrow and spend. And we're about to bump up against that and deciding whether to raise it or to just suspend it, meaning ignore it, for the next two years. It's really insane what we're doing. And so I pray and I hope our viewers are praying with us that God will move on the hearts of our leaders and of our country to bring about real and lasting change.
SPEAKER 11 :
And stuck right in all the middle of this, of course, is Speaker Mike Johnson. He's been taking a lot of shots, obviously, from the media, from some within his own party, from conservative groups, from the other side of the aisle, all across. And we absolutely need to be praying for him. We need to be praying for Congress. We need to be praying for all of them who, even as we speak, they have this vote looming. So real quickly, Kano, why don't we just pray together? And we've got just a few seconds, but let me just join with me. Lord, we do pray for your good hand right now to be upon our members of Congress, upon our leader, upon our national leaders as this time is licking. Lord, we just ask for your intervention in a powerful way. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. All right, Kana Gonzalez, FRC's Senior Director of Government Affairs, thank you so much for joining us. Great job as always. God bless you. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. All right, friends, after the break, much more coming your way. We've got some good news for life, so don't go anywhere. We'll be back in a moment.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you so much for joining us on this Friday before Christmas. You're tuned in to Washington Watch. I'm your Friday host Jody Heiss. Glad to have you with us. All right. Earlier this week, you may have read on the Washington Stand how our reporters were able to expose a grocery store giant, in fact, Kroger. They were listing the abortion drug Mifepristone on their pharmacy website. And after a back and forth with Washington Stand staff over our reporting, Kroger removed the abortion drug from their website altogether. A huge, huge win for life and certainly a huge win for our own Washington stands. A great job for them. But the news even gets better. There's more great news. There is yet another retail giant that is following suit. And here now to share more about all of that is Mary Zox. She's director of the Center for Human Dignity here at FRC. Mary, welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thanks so much for having me on.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's great to have you. So I want to get into this second retail giant. But first of all, the issue revolves around this drug. Remind our audience what Mifepristone is and how harmful its side effects can be.
SPEAKER 17 :
And mifepristone is a horrific drug. It cuts off a woman's progesterone production, meaning it cuts the actual nourishment to the unborn child. And so it essentially starves an unborn child to death. But it does so at great risk to the child's mother. So this drug sends one in 25 women to the emergency room. By the New York Times is reporting, one in 20 women who use the drug have to have a follow-up surgery because of it. Ectopic pregnancy is a huge—women are greatly at risk for having an ectopic pregnancy go undiagnosed if they take mifepristone because they can mistake the pain and bleeding from the abortion drug for— for sorry, excuse me, the pain and bleeding from an ectopic pregnancy for the pain and bleeding that would have been caused by the abortion drug. And ectopic pregnancies account for 13% of maternal deaths. So this drug is incredibly risky for women to take.
SPEAKER 11 :
A far, far cry from being nothing other than something like Tylenol, as we're frequently told. This is an extremely dangerous drug. So let's shift back to the most recent retail giant that is announcing that they're backtracking on selling Mifepristone. Tell us about that.
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Well, Sam's Club has also announced that a third-party vendor listed Mifepristone on their website in air. And here we really have to say thank goodness for pro-life journalists like The Washington Stan, like Live Action News. who brought this issue to the attention of Sam's Club and Kroger, where Sam's Club and Kroger, that are grocery stores that provide food, Sam's Club provides food in bulk to nourish people. These stores would have been guilty of selling a drug meant to starve an unborn baby to death. And and I'm sure that they are so grateful that pro-life journalists brought this to their attention, brought this air to their attention and that they were able to immediately correct it. And hopefully that they'll be vigilant in ensuring that a third party vendor is never able to use their their company to advance the culture of death like this again.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow. That really is just fantastic news. Great, great stuff there. I'm sure that there are probably many more retailers out there that are either thinking about offering Mifepristone or perhaps are already doing it on their pharmacy websites. What message do you hope that they get from the reporting this week from the Washington stand and the outcome of that with both Kroger and Sam's Club?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think one thing that these companies need to recognize is that pharmacies are meant to be places that advance the health and wellness of people. Grocery stores are meant to be places that provide food to nourish families and to nourish all Americans. These organizations, these companies need to stay in their lane. They don't need to become abortion businesses. And in fact, being an abortion business is antithetical to everything that these companies are about. And so they can't bow down to the pressure of Democrats and of the abortion industry to do this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, great point. I mean, there are so many reasons, so many for these retailers to stay away from this. I mean, obviously there's moral reasons that are deeply important to us and biblical reasons, spiritual reasons, but there's health reasons involved. There are financial reasons involved. There are legal reasons involved. So this is a bad decision, any way you look at it for these retailers. Real quickly, Mary, what kind of resources does FRC have that you're working with that you
SPEAKER 17 :
uh i think may be uh important for our audience to read about or know about we have a number of articles in the washington stand about the myths surrounding mifepristone there there are a number of these myths like you mentioned that that mifepristone is just as safe as tylenol these are just false and and they need to be dispelled because women are taking this drug thinking that it's safe. And it's not safe for them, and it's certainly not safe for their unborn child. We also have a resource on our website, Chemical Abortion, The New Battleground, that is a comprehensive view of the use of and approval of the drug Mifepristone.
SPEAKER 11 :
So real quickly, where is that website? Where can people find it?
SPEAKER 17 :
FRC.org.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great. Mary Zok, Director of FRC's Center for Human Dignity. Always great to see you. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. All right, friends, stay tuned. Much more coming your way. And here's the biggie that we're going to cover. How in the world do we look at all that's happening right now in our country, what's been happening this week? How do we look at it from the lens of Scripture? Well, we will have our Biblical Worldview segment with David Claussen coming up right after the break. Boy, we need this segment. So stay tuned. We'll bring it your way right after this break.
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Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But do you know the Bible talks about four institutions of government? Do you know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this thing, separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government.
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Let's not be discouraged. Don't lose heart. Don't lose the faith. Stand now strong because the Lord has given us the great privilege of living in a time when our choices matter, when our lives matter, when our courage matters. So let's stand together and save this great country. God bless the United States of America.
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The American Republic has a freedom like no other. It has roots in the scriptures far more than any other heritage. And if we as followers of Jesus and conservatives don't defend it, who will?
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Neutrality is not an option. There are many Christians who believe that if we just keep our heads down, if we just don't say the wrong thing, that somehow we will come out of this unscathed. You're naive if you think that, because what they want from us is not our silence. What they want from us is our submission.
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Part of the dilemma of Christianity in our generation is that we've relied a little too much on human wisdom and human reasoning, human strength, human resource, and we've relied too little on the power of God and God's ability to open doors that we can't open and do things that we couldn't even hope to begin to do.
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This may not be an easy task, But we are living in a moment of challenge, but also a great opportunity. And we know always that we are not alone, that his spirit empowers us and protects us, and that he can do the unimaginable. Dobbs, after all, was never supposed to have it.
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Father, we thank you. You have entrusted us with this moment in history, and I pray that we would be found faithful, and that as a result of our faithfulness to you, that thousands, millions would come into the kingdom as they would experience the forgiveness of sin and the new life that is found only in Jesus Christ. Amen.
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Good afternoon. Welcome back to Washington Watch. I am your Friday host, Jody Heiss. So glad to have you on board with us on this Friday before Christmas. All right. Again, I want to remind you before I bring on my next guest to join FRC, to join Family Research Council in shining the light of biblical truth here in Washington, D.C. and across our country. You have a unique opportunity to do it. Thanks to a $1.5 million challenge match, your tax-deductible gift will be doubled from now until December 31st. Come on, join us. You can text the word LIGHT, L-I-G-H-T, to 67742. Help us defend faith, freedom, and family right here at FRC. All right, let's jump into our last segment here. Our regular viewers and listeners, all of you are aware that throughout the year, we have tried to conclude our Friday Washington Watch broadcast with a biblical worldview conversation. And the whole purpose of this conversation is to try to help us think biblically about the major news headlines of the week and how to think about how theology and how God's Word intersects with current events. And as we approach the end of the year, I thought it would be helpful to have a very practical discussion about worldview, particularly about how one develops a biblical worldview and what FRC is doing to equip Christians when it comes to biblical worldview. And here we are at the beginning of a new year People were thinking about New Year's resolutions. What greater resolution could there be than to make a commitment to try to begin the process of developing a biblical worldview? Well, joining me now for this conversation is David Claussen. He's the director of our Center for Biblical Worldview here at the Family Research Council. David, thanks for joining me yet again.
SPEAKER 18 :
Hey, great to be with you, Jared.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, David, listen, I want to call timeout. We've got a lot to discuss as I just introed there with where I want our conversation to go. But I just got word the House of Representatives, as we speak, they are on the floor right now. They are voting. on the motion to suspend the rule. So this is after this, they have about six minutes left in this vote, and then they will begin the vote on the passing or not passing of the bill to fund our government. So a little bit of breaking news. Let me just throw this out to you, David. Even that that they're voting on right now has a biblical foundation. I mean, the Bible says a lot about debt and all these types of things. Can you mind if I just kind of throw this out there to you? Can you give us kind of some guiding principles of what the Bible has to say about this issue?
SPEAKER 18 :
Sure, Jody. Romans 13 is kind of an important text for understanding God's purpose and design for government. Government is legitimate. The word that Paul uses, that government actually serves as God's ministers. And so in conversations about funding and what government's going to do, it's important that our government is funded. It's important that our government has the means to do what it's tasked to do. Now, when it comes to debt, Jody, this is a huge issue. I know you had a segment earlier talking about this with Cana. This really is a biblical issue. And I know last night the vote failed when they were going to attach, you know, increasing the debt limit. Let me just give you two verses again. have all the time to go into all the details. But as Christians, we should realize the implications of, you know, a $30-plus trillion debt. Let me give you just two verses. Proverbs 22, 7, that says, "'The borrower is slave to the lender.'" Psalm 37, 21, another important verse, says, "'The wicked borrows but does not pay back.'" And it goes on to say, in converse to the wicked, the righteous is actually someone who is generous and gives. Jody, and I'm sure, of course, you know this. You know, if we were to look at this, you know, $36 trillion debt and divide it by all the Americans, every American would owe over $100,000. You know, this is unsustainable. We're setting our future generations up for all sorts of hardship. In fact, let me read one more verse, Jody, that I just looked up. Proverbs 13, 22 says that a good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Oh my goodness. I wish that principle guided our lawmakers today. Because again, Jody, we have been spending way more than we've been taking in. And this just sets us up for all sorts of problems down the road. And so I think those are a couple of things off the top of my head, Jody, that I think are biblical principles for thinking about debt and why national debt is something that Christians should actually care deeply about.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, absolutely. And listen, David, I want to thank you for literally, just right shortly before we came on the program, I sent David a text and said, hey, listen, this vote's happening. Can you do something to help us with this understanding biblically about debt? And David, thank you for just being so, I love how you just bring the scripture alive to us and apply it to current events so precisely. But if we can, let's transition. Yesterday, I had Dr. George Barna on with me, and we talked about issues and developments that he's been tracking. And although the research and the findings are fascinating in and of themselves, they can admittedly be pretty discouraging when you hear just, for example, how few Americans even possess a biblical worldview. I mean, and how sharply that decline has occurred in the last several years. And look, we've known this as a problem for a long time. And in fact, it is for that reason that Tony and FRC here, he led us to start the Center for Biblical Worldview about four years ago. And of course, you are the founding director of this center. So provide for us, if you will, a brief summary of the history of this center and why it's underway and how it's so enormously growing right now.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, what a joy to share about the history, Jody. You know, FRC was founded in 1983 out of a prayer meeting that Dr. Dobson and others were having. We've always come at the issues of the day, whether it's abortion, sexuality, religious freedom, economics, national security, through the lens of Scripture. We've always tried to provide resources to pastors and legislators. But four years ago, as you mentioned, I had already been on staff for about two years. I was actually brought on the team here at FRC to do religious freedom work. That was the initial reason I was brought on the team. So after being here for two years, it was beginning of 2021, so four years ago, that Tony and Travis Weber, the VP of Policy and Government Affairs, really did feel the Lord putting on their heart, and our chief of staff as well, that we need to be doing even more for pastors and for Christian parents particularly. And so that's kind of, That burden is what led to the creation of the Center for Biblical Worldview. We brought George Barna on as a senior fellow. We brought Owen Strand on, Joseph Backholm, myself, and kind of that was the core team. And we did a lot of research. And then from that research, Jody, we determined kind of what are some resources we can develop to provide pastors and Christian parents and even teenagers and students with the resources they need to think about life and about the issues they deal with through the lens of scripture. You know, Jody, George has proven that one's worldview, and you know, what's a worldview, by the way? A worldview is just that fundamental posture you have, that emotional, spiritual filter through which you look at the world and understand things. It's your most basic assumptions and convictions about what is right and wrong, true and false, and who determines that. And that worldview, Jody, begins to form around 15 and 18 months of age. and is pretty much in place by age 13. And so that's one of the reasons that we're providing resources targeting those demographics. So I think, again, we're almost at four years and looking forward to the next 40 years, because I think there's a lot to do, Jody, to serve pastors and parents around this country.
SPEAKER 11 :
And it's amazing the growth. I mean, how many times have I had you on here on Friday and you're in Alaska or you're in Ohio or some other part of the country, the two of you going all over teaching biblical worldview principles. And again, if any pastors or anyone listening right now would like to participate in that, just simply contact us. And I know we would love to arrange a them to come to you as well. But David, let me ask you a kind of a two-part question, I guess. First, in your view, what are some of the steps that Christian parents can take? You talk about how our worldview has developed at an extremely young age. What are some of the steps that Christian parents can take to teach a biblical worldview to their children? And this is related, you can't pass along what you don't have yourself, right? So what are some, perhaps some resources that you would recommend to parents who want to make sure that they themselves have a biblical worldview that they can then pass on to their kids?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, what a great question, Jody. You know, a couple of things has come to mind. You know, there really is no silver bullet. I can't recommend just one book and you can guarantee that your child has a biblical worldview. Uh, but what is tried and true Jody, uh, is the basic spiritual disciplines, uh, things like Bible reading and prayer. And so one of the things that I just, uh, cannot stress enough, Jody, uh, to parents and, you know, I just became a parent a couple of weeks ago, uh, And, you know, one thing that's so important is prioritizing the Bible in your home. And that's one of the reasons, actually, FRC, a couple of years ago, we actually have a two-year Bible reading plan that I would recommend and encourage all of our listeners and viewers to look at. You can go to frc.org slash Bible. But Jody, I would encourage every parent to prioritize Bible reading in the home. I know my parents growing up, one of the things that we would do either at the dinner table or before we went to bed, my dad and my mom would get my sister and I together, and we would talk about the day and then read Scripture together, and then we would pray together. So reading Scripture together as a family at the dinner table or right before bed, doing family worship, which again, that doesn't need to... I remember in seminary learning about family worship and I thought, I can't sing very well. Well, family worship is just opening up God's word, maybe singing a hymn or two and leading your family to think about these things. One other thing I would say, Jody, prioritize a local church. We live in an age of travel sports and weekend sports and weekend activities. Prioritizing a local church. I'd encourage everyone, find a local church that preaches expositionally through the Bible and plant your life in that church. Whenever the doors of that church are open, be there. Make sure your kids are there. And so these are some of the things that come to mind. And to the second part of your question, Jody, two books that I'll recommend, Total Truth by Nancy Piercy, and then also Naming the Elephant, Worldview as a Concept by James Sire. Those would be two wonderful books for parents to read. As well, Jeff Myers at Summit Ministries, he's written some wonderful things. And then I'd also recommend Albert Moeller, president of Southern Seminary, frequent guest on Washington Watch. He has a daily podcast that I think parents would really benefit if they listen to that on a daily basis, because then they could pass some of that information on to their children.
SPEAKER 11 :
Excellent, excellent advice. And let me throw another one in here, one that probably you would not mention, and that is you. You've produced some really great resources. I know you've got an eight-week study on sexuality and gender. You've also got, and I have myself, several booklets that you've written, and many of them are available online. to download for free, right? So explain some of these things that you have.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, very briefly, you can go to frc.org slash worldview. And I've written five booklets. One of them is called Introduction to Worldview. Another one is Biblical Principles for Pro-Life Engagement. Another one focuses on human sexuality. Another focus is religious liberty. The other focus is on politics and political engagement. Those are on the website for free. And the Again, amazing. Thanks to the generosity of a lot of our listeners, we were able to translate those into multiple languages, Korean, Spanish, and others, Chinese. And then, like you said, the eight-week study on gender, sexuality, and marriage. I co-authored that book. It's designed for small group study. And again, you can find that at frc.org slash worldview. We've had a lot of feedback from pastors around the country who've used that resource. And I've just been thrilled to see how God's used that resource.
SPEAKER 11 :
And real quickly, if pastors are listening or watching right now, they would be interested in hosting a Biblical Worldview conference. How can they do that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, you can go to frc.org slash worldview, and there's a big banner that says host a one-day workshop. And like you said, Jody, from Alaska to California to Alabama, Pennsylvania, Ohio, we have one booked for Arkansas, Connecticut, Maryland. Joseph, back home, my colleague and I, we've traveled and hosted these one-day workshops today. for either ministry leaders or for local churches. So you can go to the website, fill out an interest form. It'll give you more information, frc.org slash worldview. And you're right, Jody, it'd be a wonderful opportunity to spend some time around the country in 2025 doing more of these workshops.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. All right. Our time slipping away here, David, just a couple of minutes left. But I know that you've talked a lot about parents. And I think at least in, well, probably not just some quarters, it's scattered all across the country. There are Christian parents who think that as long as they take their kids to a youth group or they send them perhaps to a Christian school or whatever, that they are receiving enough Christian instruction. So can you just speak a little bit more about this and the need for parents literally to be active, for grandparents to be active and engaged when it comes to passing along a worldview formation?
SPEAKER 18 :
Your child will spend 16,000 hours in the classroom from ages from kindergarten through 12th grade. And if you think just an hour at youth group on Wednesday night can counteract 16,000 hours, you're kidding yourself. Jody, Deuteronomy 6, I just pulled it up here on my Bible. Verse 7, talking about God's commandments. So, Deuteronomy 6, verse 7. As a parent, you are the chief disciple-maker in your home. That's why family worship, Bible reading, prayer with your children, making sure as a family you go to church together, nothing replaces the importance of the family. Christian teachers, youth pastors, pastors, Christian friends can supplement and complement what you do, but nothing takes the place of the parents leading their children to understand God, understand His revealed truth through His Word, that is, I think, probably the most important thing I could say, Jody.
SPEAKER 11 :
David Claussen, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate all you do at the Center for Biblical Worldview here at FRC and beyond, all the resources you provide. God bless you. This is going to be a very special Christmas for you and your family, your new little family expanding. Merry Christmas to you. And as always, thank you for joining us here for this segment.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. Thank you so much. Merry Christmas to you, Jody, and your family as well.
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All right, friends, listen, the Center for Biblical Worldview, you can go to the FRC.org, find out more. You can also find out more with all of this from a biblical worldview. If you have our app, the Stand Firm app, you can get it by texting APP to 67742. All right. Merry, merry, merry, merry Christmas to all of you. Jody Heiss now signing off. God bless you. And we'll be back next week here on Washington Watch.
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In this episode, we dive deep into the significant legal victories and ongoing challenges faced by the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) as they defend religious liberty and pro-life stances. From cases ensuring free speech in educational settings to confronting state-level adversities aimed at undermining pregnancy resource centers, ACLJ continues to lead the charge. Join us to learn how their strategic actions keep them at the forefront of protecting freedoms in an ever-complex legal landscape.
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keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
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Hey folks, welcome to Sekulow. We have a lot to talk about today from the American Center for Law and Justice to get you up to speed on. And we want to make sure you know about all the work that we are doing right now at the American Center for Law and Justice when it comes to protecting life. During this season where we celebrate Christmas and it's such an important time of year for religious liberty. to make sure we're defending, of course, life, to make sure we're defending your free speech. And we are doing that, and we're going to put that on display for you in the broadcast today so that you are updated on what the ACLJ is doing right now. I mean, again, you look at these cases, like the big win out of Nevada. involving that student with the profane monologue. Again, these are students who are not even the age of adults who technically in many of these cases couldn't even buy a ticket to an R-rated movie but could be forced to read profane monologues or somehow be punished by their school system and their parents somehow being told that you have no say in this matter. And you can get victories in those cases like we did out of Nevada. You can, again, on the religious liberty front, on the pro-life front, where we have decided in Massachusetts to take the fight directly to the people to support the pro-life pregnancy centers, these pregnancy resource centers. who are under attack in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. They are facing a full-on $8 million ad campaign with millions by the state. So the Commonwealth is using taxpayer dollars of citizens in Massachusetts and working with a pro-abortion organization to spend millions of dollars trying to defame these, again, pro-life pregnancy resource centers. We are not only fighting for them in court, we want to fight back with the advertising campaign. You will learn about that. You'll also learn about the cost of that. Because, again, you can't just say you're going to run these campaigns and run these ads, put them on TV, put them on billboards, put them online, target everyone that's important in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to make sure the truth is getting out. You can't do that for free. It takes financial resources. And because it's something... New for the ACLJ to do. We want to make sure that we have raised funds just for that. So we'll be talking about that today on the broadcast as well. It is a critical time of the year to support the work of the ACLJ. I mean, we're working harder than ever. Again, you know, on the religious liberty front, cases coming in all the time because of Christmas and the fact that you've got all these... whether it's private, employer, state, or local governments, even federal governments trying to say, don't say that word or don't say Merry Christmas, it still is happening. And we have the cases out there. You can see it at ACLJ.org to prove. And they come in very quickly right around. this time of year so our team has to stay on it and they do stay on it regardless the ACLJ always ready to go so this is not just a fundraising drive for January 1st and beyond in 2025 this is a fundraising drive for the cases that are coming in right now as we speak to the American Center for Law and Justice it's the most important time of year for us to donate to the ACLJ let me tell you why just this year When it comes to religious liberty cases, we have handled 142 religious liberty matters. That's clients, cases, briefs, demand letters, all fighting back. That's just on religious liberty. When it comes to pro-life legal matters, 175. 175 pro-life legal matters. 197 free speech matters. 142, as we said, religious liberty matters. 126 legal actions battling the deep states. Hundreds of others. We talked about Fannie Willis yesterday on the broadcast. Here is when we need you to stand with us at the ACLJ. You're going to hear about all of our work today, the different kinds of work that we're doing, but you've got to donate. We can't do any of this work without your financial contribution to the ACLJ. And certainly we want to be able to plan as best we can to know what resources we are going to have as we begin 2025. These are the most crucial days. We're now within the 10 most crucial days of our fundraising for the entire year. So donate today at ACLJ.org. Be part of our faith and freedom year in drive. Double the impact of your donation by donating today at ACLJ.org. You don't want to miss the broadcast today. Learn all about how your resources are being used at the ACLJ to fight back for freedom.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. Jeff Balaban's joining us from ACLJ Jerusalem. We had some pretty interesting updates going on over there. And of course, we had some interesting updates, Will, coming on over here in regards to the current conflict between Gaza and Israel and what that looks like. And of course, that war that's been ongoing. But of course, it can't have to, you know, just as something has been positive, something negative had to come out of this, something a bit controversial, and we're responding.
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That's right. So as we told you last week, we uncovered among a ceremony, graduation ceremony of the National Academy, which is an FBI training academy for local law enforcement and some international police groups, that the day after Chris Wray announced that he would be resigning from his position at the end of the term, he was handing out diplomas and he gave one to a man who was from an intelligence police force in the Palestinian Authority's control. and announced him as from Ramallah, state of Palestine. ACLJ did not take that and just, hey, okay, it's bad policy at the end of a presidency. We got a FOIA out, sending it out today. Can we play the clip of this? Yeah, this is fight four.
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I think you need to see how egregious it is when you just see how casual, it's not like they said, you know, made a statement. It's just very casual, like a graduation ceremony. Right. Take a look.
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Hossam Abu Aisha, Preventative Security Organization, Ramallah, State of Palestine.
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Yeah, you hear that, though, of course, just again, casually, nice little claps. And probably a lot of people not even thinking about it, but of course you hear that and you go, oh, this is recognition of what they consider a state of Palestine.
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Well, and so we've got a FOIA request out. We're going to get to the bottom of this. It's going to the FBI. I mean, I'm sure that they will sit on it on this administration. But Jeff, hopefully... In the coming administration with Kash Patel at the helm and new leadership, we'll be able to actually find out what is going on within the Federal Bureau of Investigation when they so cavalierly announce someone as being from a place that the U.S. does not officially recognize as the state of Palestine, but they are clearly dishing out statehood at the FBI here in the last few weeks of the Biden administration. What are your thoughts on it when you saw it?
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Well, thank God that we are taking this to a foyer and trying to dig up what lies underneath this. Because, you know, from the beginning of this administration, Team Biden has done everything it could to claim it's friendly to Israel, but undermine Israel's sovereignty, push for the idea of a Palestinian state there has never been, and God willing, there never will be. a state of Palestine. It's a terrible idea. It was an idea that Israel was pressured into to even go through negotiations. And the Palestinian Authority, which is legally just a successor to the PLO, a terrorist organization, has never dropped its actual behavior as a terrorist organization. And to recognize them as a state is not only illegal, it's not only against American law, it is a way to incite violence and hostility around the world against the country that is Israel. And so, yeah, it's a disaster and I'm very glad that the ACLJ jumped on this. And yes, people didn't hear about it so much in Israel yet, because there's so much else going on here, but it's necessary to find this out, it's necessary to uproot this.
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Well, and Jeff, what's so shocking to me about it, and as someone who follows this closely, when I saw the clip, I actually started digging to make sure it was, one, not AI, because it's an announcer's voice. And so did someone create some misinformation to try to stir something up? Or did this happen years ago and no one just saw it? No, it was when I saw it had happened the afternoon prior. And to me, it raises so many questions because we know what the Obama administration did when they stabbed Israel in the back on their way out the door when President-elect Trump was coming in 2017, where they abstained from a vote in the UN General Assembly that was trying to recognize the Palestinians as an observer state. Now you look at this and we have been talking about what kind of bad moves are going to come out against Israel. We've seen quite a few, but To me, it was more shocking that that was said from the emcee, which was reading from a script. So who wrote it? And two, that there wasn't even like a grimace on Chris Ray's face when that was announced that way. everyone just seemed okay with the way the language was being used. And I think that speaks to a larger problem that we need to be looking at and rooting out within holdovers, within bureaucrats that are embedded there, because the ideology is no longer, we really want a two-state solution and this pipe dream that we can achieve that with peace and equal territory and whatnot. But that it appears people within the U.S. government already believe there is a Palestinian state and are okay with calling it that in official ceremonies.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're making a very important point, William, which is exactly right. Part of this is, it could be malice, people who are trying to undermine the federal government and American law by creating a state de facto. But it could be that people just believe there is such a thing. If you go on social media, so many people talk about Israel-Palestine as though there's such a thing as a state of Palestine. People on Capitol Hill, Talk about Palestine as though it's a country or it's a state. It's not. There's the Palestinian Authority. Again, the Palestinian Authority is a successor legal entity to the PLO, a terrorist organization that has been given control over vast swaths of Judea and Samaria. And yes, there is some, there has to be. some balance of security cooperation between the Israelis and the Palestinian Authority. But by the same token, in Israel, what the news really is here that you don't hear about there so much is the rash and the huge increase in Palestinian versus Palestinian, meaning Judea and Samaria, the Arabs killing each other now, as right now, including members of these same security forces, which America has been training, which America has been arming, and now apparently which America is educating and giving, you know, giving awards to or diplomas to at the FBI.
SPEAKER 10 :
And Jeff, I want to bring up something you and I talked about actually before the show today is that, you know, the world looks on and they see the weakening of Iran. We see Hamas being decimated. Yes, they're still fighting between Israel and Hamas right now. But Israel is not subject to the types of rocket attacks from Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas that they have been over the past years. And then you see the leadership of Hezbollah taken out. You see that Israel was able to go in and get rid of a lot of strategic Assad regime sites so that whatever the future of that country, failed state may be that there is a security buffer there for the Israelis. But one group that hasn't been talked about as much are the Houthis in Yemen, which is still an Iranian proxy, which has been firing directly at Jerusalem where you are over the past several days. Could you give our audience and listeners a little bit of an update on what's going on? Because it's sometimes easy to forget that with all these proxies falling, that there's still very real danger for the citizens of Israel, even to this day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's true. And, you know, people are thinking right now that they've really degraded the ability of Israel's enemies to launch weapons into Israeli civilian areas, because let's face it, the world yells about Israel, but they take for granted that it's okay that on all these different, all these different entities and groups have been firing missiles, rockets into Israel's population centers. And And there's always been a thesis that, well, they avoid Jerusalem, A, because of the very large Arab Muslim population, B, because some of Islam's self-proclaimed holiest sites are here, like on the Temple Mount, where they have two major holy sites on the Temple Mount. the Al-Aqsa Maqs and the Dome of the Rock. And so people assume they wouldn't, but that's not true. Of course they'll fire at this because it seems that the one religious principle for many of these groups above all else is the genocide of the Jews. And so on Thursday, I believe it was, shortly after it got off the air with you, we had alarms here in Jerusalem in my building. We were told to go to the bomb shelter. And then there was the all clear about 15 minutes, 10 minutes later. And when we first walked out, we were told what was a false alarm. And then we found out later, it wasn't a false alarm. Again, earlier today, the same thing happened. Missiles were launched from Houthi territory, from Yemen. And the alarms are actually given because Israel tries to and successfully has shot them down in air. But what that also means is that fragments can land. So number one, where they're coming from Yemen, it's very long distance. They're trying to estimate, they're trying to be very careful when they put sirens here, which neighborhood, like within square blocks, rockets are going to land. When it comes to this, they have to do large areas. So today, the sirens were all across the center of Israel, like everywhere. But some of the fragments actually landed here in North Jerusalem. Thank God nobody was hurt. And last time, again, they blew it out of the sky. But yes, it's still a war zone, even in the major civilian population centers in Israel.
SPEAKER 11 :
Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. I want to give you a minute also. Stick around. We've got one minute left here. And just a moment, as we are telling people, it's the last two weeks of the year from fundraising. It's the end of our Faith and Freedom year in drive. The ACLJ Jerusalem is there at a very important time. And these are the reasons, because we're making sure we are on top of things that are even American-centered there in Jerusalem, like what we saw earlier.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, look, it's obviously I do this with ACLJ, by ACLJ, as ACLJ Jerusalem, because I believe that ACLJ plays a really unique role of all of the organizations that I'm aware of, in and out of Washington and out of the media for a very long time. In terms of, and you just look at the kind of people who join with us when they cycled out of the last Trump administration. The fact that we had the former Secretary of State, the fact that we had Rick Grinnell, who, by the way, is now the man with the coolest title in all of Washington. right right uh tulsi gabbard others uh the fact that they officially uh come with us and work with us it's because this is not just uh you know it's supposed to be a law firm but it's so much more than that absolutely jeff thank you so much we're gonna head to heartbreakaclj.org thanks for joining us
SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome back to Seculo. Christy Campagnone, Senior Managing Counsel with the ACLJ, is joining us. And if you were just watching, which I encourage you all should watch, we do a full television-style broadcast. You can find it on YouTube, on Rumble, on ACLJ.org, and on the Salem News Channel. We're there as well. There may be some news coming up for that coming up in the new year as well. So make sure you stay tuned for that. But in those breaks... If you're watching on one of the streaming platforms, you got to see a video leading up to how we got involved in this case, Christy. And I think you need to kind of back everybody up a little bit because it is nice when the ACLJ can put things to bed, can finish and say, we have completed this assignment. And it has happened. It has happened in a great way. But let's back it up. Give us a brief background on this case and how we got involved.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. So as you saw in this clip, we had a 15-year-old minor required to read a monologue in her acting class that contained explicit sexual material. And once her parent found out that this happened, she was absolutely appalled and actually went first to the school board meeting and And her microphone was turned off because of the curse words that were used in that explicit material while she was trying to raise the alarm as to what happened to her daughter. So naturally, they went ahead to pursue a lawsuit. And we came in after her local council initially started the complaint. And we helped amend the complaint to survive the motion to dismiss. And I think the big, wonderful victory came after we had a hard fight during discovery process. which is where we took depositions of all of the administrators of that school. And of course, we're pleased to announce that we were able to get a victory for our client. She received a monetary settlement fund, and she also is going to have teaching and training. for the teachers at this school to make sure that this never happens again. And it was all as a result of the depositions where we were able to get admissions from the administrators that this material was absolutely inappropriate and should have never been in the classroom.
SPEAKER 10 :
And Christy, I think that that's an important part of this as well, is that this is a victory. But our attorneys that have been working for a long time, I mean, the school board meeting where the mother spoke was two and a half years ago. And we've been telling our audience about it for a very long time as well. But this victory wasn't all of a sudden the school board got a demand letter like sometimes we send and they're like, oh, or the school administration said, let's fix this. This isn't right. And then it went to the lawsuit phase and it wasn't like maybe now they're serious. We'll we'll walk away. But it took our attorneys going out there. And you joined us from Nevada on a broadcast where you had just completed a deposition. You've been doing depositions the day before with our team of attorneys out there. And it took that level of getting to discovery, which many people in many lawsuits try to avoid that phase immediately. even beyond the trial phase because of how invasive and intense a deposition can be in that discovery process. But that, when we got there and got those depositions, is what finally made this district realize, you know what? We don't need to go to trial. We're on a losing course here. We need to find a way out of this and settle with this client.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. So we had the school realizing, OK, we've had at least three of our administrators admit to several of the elements that we would have to prove in court that the material had no pedagogical interest, meaning there was no reason that it should have been found in a classroom. They also found that one of the administrators admitted that even if there had been parental consent, it still should have not had a place in the classroom. So, I mean, we're talking beyond just the books where we require parents to sign permission slips to read. This material did not have an educational interest and should have never been in their schools. So once we have those admissions coming from their administrators, they realized, OK, we're going to not want to fight this in court anymore.
SPEAKER 11 :
time in the country where this is what has happening where you have such a sensitive culture and it really is a very sensitive culture but when you actually call these things out uh and making kids do this type of material let's say in high school by the way i teach a screen acting course in university level And I have way stricter rules than this. I have wild rules because of the way we are right now. And by the way, I'm all for that. I want everyone to feel comfortable. I'm not going in there and make anyone uncomfortable. This is on a high school level. This is happening. Like that is wild. And we were able to get in there and stop this. And what I do like about this, and I think our audience needs to know this, Christy, is though you hear settlement and I think your mind goes to, So for some people, they may go, OK, they just it's not really a victory. It's a settlement. And a lot of times people think of a settlement as something that happens very quickly. It happens when no one wants to go to court. But this was not that process. Went to court, took years of time, took all the effort, the travel, the money that's being spent, the money that has to be raised to then be able to be spent for the ACLJ. Because, again, of course, this mother and her family did not pay a dollar for our representation and for our work.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think it's really important for the clients, the fact that it's in their best interest to wrap this up and get justice for their child, but to not have this draw out for years and years and years. And like you've mentioned, we've already been in this for two years. And so I think it's a victory for them in that the school paid up. I mean, the school had to pay. There is going to be training for those teachers. This is getting national attention. And now the spotlight is on this school to make sure that this never happens again. And then I think most importantly, and this is key, is that even when you have a settlement, you still have created precedent so that if this happens to any other student, they can now pull this case and say, look. These are the facts. This is what happened in this case. And the school had to pay. So my my child needs to be protected because this was inappropriate. And we have it on the record as precedent in the courts now that the school had to pay for this kind of action.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Christy, thank you so much for joining us and going through this because it is a very important time. This is Giving Tuesday. So what that means is that is the biggest charitable giving day of the year for a lot of people. This is the big promotional day. Obviously, a lot of you wait until the end of the year, post-Christmas bonus, that kind of thing happens. But we encourage you right now, it is one of our biggest days of the year. And it historically has been since Giving Tuesday kind of was founded. So I encourage you right now, if you hear the work that Christy is doing and her team, amazing work for people because now this is settled, doesn't mean those kind of fights don't come in each and every day. Every day we're going through the intake, legal intake. If you go to aclj.org slash help, you fill out a form, a very simple form. If it's within the scope of what we do here, you get assigned to attorney for absolutely free for you. But someone does have to pay those attorneys. Someone does have to pay for that travel. And thankfully, there are thousands of people like you who are watching this or listening to this today who either decided to become an ACLJ champion, that's someone that gives on a monthly level, or someone that can make a big one-time-a-year single donation. We are built on the backbone of people giving $50, $70, $40. So don't think if you give that your impact is not doing anything. All donations are doubled right now. Whatever you can give, there is an ACLJ champion. There's a fund there that's ready to be unlocked right now. Because as I said, it is not just the occasion where one is complete. Like I said, it is hard for us sometimes to fundraise on victories, but understand that a victory means that also frees up these lawyers to spend more time on the next one. And that next one is probably coming today because that's just how it works, especially around Christmas time. And we know this. I know it feels like it's old news, the sort of quote unquote war on Christmas. But you are shocked at how many things we get, how many legal queries we get every year from people who want to put up a nativity scene, who want to sing Oh Holy Night at their event and are getting told no. And we're going to be there for them as well and take care of that. And maybe that's you. And if it is, go to our website right now. We've got a second half hour coming up. We're going to be joined by Jeff Balabon at ACLJ Jerusalem. And again, I can't encourage you more. Right now, do it. ACLJ.org. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 09 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
SPEAKER 12 :
And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. So we've been talking, of course, the issues at the FBI with Christopher Wray. And of course, he has submitted his resignation that he'll leave before President Trump is in office because he was going to be fired. His replacement has already been named, Kash Patel. And I think, you know, there's not a better time to get someone like Kash Patel into the FBI or Pam Bondi at the Department of Justice because of this information we find out about January 6th and you know you're told that you are a conspiracy theorist even a dangerous conspiracy theorist if you talk about it and even ask the question about how involved was the FBI on January 6th and were they just there really to watch the crowd and issue back reports about security status and why did we know that there were three but now we find out they're an additional 23 by the way none of them got charged so it wasn't like the FBI said they were like doing it on their own accord and and not acting as confidential informants and why did Christopher Wray get away for so many years with saying that those there were no agents involved in going into the Capitol is that agents are different than informants. And he would never really get to the bottom of the truth about trying to deflect. It's typical Washington that a week ago you could have gotten banned on social media for saying now what's in the headlines in mainstream media. And of course calls for more investigation and we'll get that done if Kash Patel's there and Pam Bondi are there so it ties up directly to those confirmation battles as well I want to take a call on it uh we're going to talk about some of these new efforts that we want to launch brand new from the ACLJ uh Logan's joining us in the studio live but let me go to Linda first in New York online too hey Linda hey guys hey um
SPEAKER 05 :
On the topic of Christopher Wray, an abominable embarrassment to the United States of America since the day President Trump allowed him to stay in his position. He's been laughing at us ever since, and you can see it on his smirk every time he's being questioned on Capitol Hill. It's disgusting. And my prayer is that you guys get into the inside workings of all these people it's abominable what's going on.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I mean, listen, what we're going to do is everything we can to help get the information out that people deserve, because you don't deserve to be called a nut, a conspiracy theorist, and then a report comes out from the Inspector General confirming everything that you were being told you were a nut and dangerous for even thinking might have been the option. It's actually worse than what a lot of people thought. There were a lot more involvement with these informants, and you have to ask, where were they? like did they help break the door down did they tell people break the door down did they tell people smack that cop let's push through and encourage that kind of violence that's the kind of info we need uh after an event where you know you've got people serving long jail sentences and you're you're called really a danger or threat to the country if you even ask questions about art institutions involvement when you know that they were involved to a certain extent and now we know It was up to 26 FBI-connected individuals. Are there more? I don't think that's going to come for Christopher Wray, and there's certainly more work. We've got to do with the ACLJ with FOIA, and we'll get you on that. I wanted to take that call. It's just important. We've got to get the right nominees confirmed for these positions. That is a major battle that's coming up. in Washington, D.C. Those meetings are already occurring in the U.S. Senate, but we have to be ready for those fights. Support our work, too, and our government affairs work at ACLJ.org. Now, Logan, I told people we want to do something new in the realm of fighting for life. Now that this fight... has been taken out of Washington, D.C., and Roe v. Wade has been overturned. The fight has gone local, and it's gone to the states. And in some of these blue states, the fight is directly with pro-life, not just activists, but pro-life even pregnancy centers that offer other solutions than abortion.
SPEAKER 11 :
head on and we get back from the next segment i'm going to so happy to premiere our new campaign specifically based on that story you heard me tell over the summer when i was visiting boston and we saw those you know horrific ads against pregnancy resource centers my team has been putting together an incredible campaign over the next over the last five or six months and now we are ready to roll it out first in massachusetts and then by God's grace and with your support around the world. I can't wait for you to see it. It is filled with hope. It's filled with joy. And it's coming up in the next segment. So stay tuned. Of course, you can support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. And I'm going to be tracking it today because today is the big fundraising day for this life-saving campaign.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, folks, welcome back to Seculo. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. But we've got a new fight that we can engage in, the fight for life. You know these attacks. We've talked about it here. You know the lawsuits are continuing, and it's actually Massachusetts has to respond to our deadline today in court where we represent a PRC, a pro-life pregnancy resource center, fighting back because of the way they have been described in these official ads that have been sponsored by pro-abortion organizations and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts using people's taxpayer dollars. And I mean, really defaming these pro-life pregnancy centers. And so Logan, the idea here is that it's not just always about legislation. It can also be about the messaging and they want to destroy these pregnancy resource centers and make them out to be places of evil or wrongdoing and act as if they're criminal.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what happened is back in July, I was in Boston walking around having a great day. I walked out of my hotel and this billboard struck me and said, avoid anti-abortion centers. I thought that's strange. I mean, it's not that, you know, you always hear pro-choice ads here and there. And then we saw that it was something run by the state, by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. And we said, we got to do something about this, whether that's legally. But also in my heart, I knew we needed to take our own message to the streets. So we reached out to some of our friends in Massachusetts, found out that they were also appalled by what was happening there, that this did not represent even the values. They may be a very pro-choice state, but this did not represent the values of the people in Boston and in Massachusetts. So we've spent the last six months or so working on a brand new campaign, an outdoor ad campaign, a digital video ad campaign that is called Choice Begins Here. It is brilliant. Beautifully done. Our team has done an amazing job. It provides hope. You see their ads? Sadness, you know, sad faces, all this. You see our versions of this? It is completely opposite. It is to make sure people have the opportunity to visit Pro-Life Pregnancy Resource Centers to have a real choice in the matter. So we're gonna see billboards. You're gonna see advertisements. You're gonna see digital billboards here and there throughout Massachusetts. Then you're gonna have these video ads that I'm gonna show you the preview of the very first one in just a minute. You're going to have these that are going to be running throughout social media. They're going to be running on television. You're going to be able to find them wherever. But actually, they only happen if you support this. And you may say, Logan, what about Massachusetts? Why do I care about Massachusetts? Well, that's just the start. That's the epicenter, if you will, because that is where the need is right now. But our goal, if you support this, is to take this across the country to all pro-choice, you'd say, states. States where abortion is still not only legal, but is running wild. And they're attacking places that are providing food for mothers, that are providing clothing for babies, that are providing obviously prenatal and postnatal services. There's always this lie that you hear from the left saying, oh, pro-lifers only care about babies when they're in the womb and then they're born and no one cares. And that is the exact opposite of what's going on at these pro-life pregnancy resource centers. We've worked with so many of them throughout the years. So we have developed a resource that people can go on to find a pregnancy resource center in their area to contact people who are going to give them true options. Because you know, when you go into a Planned Parenthood, they're really only going to be pushing one choice. And that choice, of course, is abortion. Now with this, we decided let's take this a very different way. Let's provide hope, provide light in the darkness instead of these horrible options that you see from the left. And I'm really excited to premiere this. And after you watch this first sample ad, I'm gonna tell you how you can support it. Because we have a lofty goal. Because to get outdoor ad campaign, to get videos put up, you've seen them in bathrooms, you'll see them all over the place, this is not cheap. And by the way, this isn't really a traditional ACLJ fundraiser in the sense. So we are paying for this, but it's not like an ad for ACLJ, go support, go donate. That's not the goal. The goal is to spread the good news of these mostly Christian pro-life pregnancy resource centers. They're doing amazing work in communities where it's needed the most. So take a look. The first look of the first ad for Choice begins here.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll never forget that day. Scariest moment of my life. I had just started my business and then this. Pregnant? Really? I just thought about all of my dreams falling apart. I needed help, I needed answers. Places I heard of, they seemed to only offer one option. Then I found a pregnancy resource center and they talked to me about my options. She listened, she actually cared about me. No shame, no judgment. I'll never forget that day either. The day that I realized maybe this wasn't the end of my dreams, but just the start of one I hadn't even imagined.
SPEAKER 04 :
To find a pregnancy resource center near you, go to choicebeginshere.org.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that is your first look, again, at our hopeful ad campaign to hopefully get more people to go to Pro-Life Pregnancy Resource Centers to actually see that there are real choices, real hope. And, of course, they provide an incredible amount of coverage, whether that, again, prenatal, postnatal, food, baby food, formula, clothes. They offer so much, and we've seen the amazing work they do. But the state of Massachusetts, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, is trying to shut them down. They're trying to say, avoid them. ignore them pretend they don't do not go to them here's a list their website is here's a list of places to avoid and of course they also say look for words like hope in the title it says that on their website so you know what they're pushing but what choice begins here again a project of the aclj we're going to change the way pro-life activism is done And we can do that as we head into this Christmas season with you. And I'm going to ask you for this because I know what the budget is because I just got off the phone and I have a call later today about the budgets that we have to spend to really blanket these cities. And it is lofty. Go back to me. I want to talk to people directly. It is lofty. Okay. So I'm going to tell you right now to do this in just one market. It's $500,000. So again, you've showed up for me before. When I've said that that is a number we needed. And I'm going to ask you right now to do it again. And what if we could do it today? What if we do it in the next 24 hours? So I'm encouraged you go to ACLJ.org or if you want to know more about the campaign, ACLJ.org slash save babies. You've heard about the Massachusetts deception. They've been running the mass deception as we've been calling it. But now it's time to turn the table and give hope to people who need it. And it is Christmas. And it is an important time for us to give back. And this is an incredible opportunity. And again, if it works, if this works, we're going to take it well beyond Massachusetts. We'll be coming to your home state if it's necessary. Obviously, we're going to pick out where it needs to go. And this is going to all start, by the way, in the first quarter of next year. So it took months to get all the pieces together. The billboard art, the television ads, and there's still more to be created. And I can't wait to share even the more real stories that have come out of this that are going to blow your mind that only God could orchestrate. But right now, I'm going to encourage you to make that donation. I'm going to play the ad one more time. And during that, I'm going to ask you to make your donation. Go to ACLJ.org and let's throw the QR code up or scan that QR code right now. And then let's take a look one more time at our Choice Begins Here premiere ad.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll never forget that day. scariest moment of my life. I had just started my business and then this. Pregnant? Really? I just thought about all of my dreams falling apart. I needed help, I needed answers. Places I heard of, they seemed to only offer one option. Then I found a pregnancy resource center and they talked to me about my options. She listened, she actually cared about me. No shame, no judgment. I'll never forget that day either. The day that I realized, maybe this wasn't the end of my dreams, but just the start of one I hadn't even imagined.
SPEAKER 04 :
To find a pregnancy resource center near you, go to choicebeginshere.org.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, folks, you heard directly from Logan about what it takes for us to make this happen. So we can, again, for us to produce here, to put all the parts together, that's step one. It's done. I mean, it's ready to go. It can go as big as we're able to have the resources to put it. And as Logan said, if this is a success in Massachusetts, we're going to go to these other states that are targeting these pro-life pregnancy resource centers. that are they're trying to run them out of business make them out to be these places of somehow illegal conduct that they're doing something wrong and damaging and scary and you have to stay away because they offer options other than abortion and they again they're doing this in part and part remember the state here the commonwealth of Massachusetts and pro-abortion organizations are working together So they're sharing taxpayer money. Millions of dollars. Millions of dollars to run their campaign. But we believe with a counter campaign, as you heard Logan say, to really do it in Massachusetts, it could turn on ready to go, you know, January 1. But it's going to cost $500,000 to do that, to really blanket the media and the people with different kinds of advertising. So are you going to be there when we need you the most? Again, to fight back for these pregnancy resource centers, you can go to aclj.org right now and donate. If you go to aclj.org slash savebabies, it has more about the campaign as well. You can donate to either of those places. Your gift will be doubled.
SPEAKER 1 :
$500,000.
SPEAKER 12 :
The quicker we can raise that, the quicker we can be in the next state and the next state. Go to aclj.org. Double your impact today to help save lives. Welcome back to Secchio. People have got calls in on the FBI as well. I want to go to that. But we do want to underscore this new campaign that we want to launch, the ACLJ. It's ready to go. We've already previewed it for you here today. So we'll talk about that again in a moment, kind of what the facets are of that. We know it can be a big number to hear, and it's been a different kind of economy, but you're seeing the difference in already what a Trump potential— presidency beginning in january has already done to the place like the stock market of course that's not always immediate impacts but the idea so we are hoping again that you can help us launch uh what it would be new for the aclj in the sense of using these kind of resources to fight back but it's also because in the past the pro-abortion organizations and some of these pro-abortion state leaders certainly didn't like pregnancy centers but they weren't really demonizing them And now that Roe versus Wade has been overturned, it's like they've now turned their attention to the places that provide women other options than just killing their unborn child. So we'll talk about that in a minute again and kind of what that full scope means. But I do want to go to the phones with Lewis in Colorado on line one. Hey, Lewis.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. I was just wondering if Kash Patel will consider hiring the two whistleblowers and if they would consider coming back to the FBI and be put in a leadership position.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, I don't know if Marcus Allen would ever want to go back to the FBI after what they put him through. I mean, he's still in the moment, as we talked to Tristan Leavitt earlier this week, from Empower Oversight, where they're still fighting over his back pay. I mean, most of it he's gotten now, but they're still fighting. I mean, so even after winning in court, getting your security clearance restored so that you can move on in the private sector and really move on with your life, but then getting the resources, the financial resources that were held back, still fighting for to this day. Now, I don't want to speak for them, but with Garrett O'Boyle, we're still fighting in court. He hasn't gotten to that point yet that Marcus Allen did where the FBI has settled and determined the back pay and his security clearance. So could there be some interesting things there available, especially... to provide advice. I think what you look for there, Lewis, is they may not want to go back inside the agency because, again, you might know that Cash Patel is going to be there for a handful of years, but then it's going to turn to the next, you know, who's next as president? Who do they put in? Is it somebody like Cash Patel, or is it somebody who turns into Christopher Wray and does exactly what the FBI didn't need, which is turn it more into a swampy, And secretive and just bureaucratically run agency that he was happy to to oversee and now run out of D.C. before the Republicans come in and before President Trump comes back to fire him. So I do think they could be useful in the sense of advisers. How did this happen to you so that we can prevent this from happening to people in the future? So the idea itself, I think, is a good idea. And I think people like Kash Patel would be open to listening and hearing from those individuals who have gone through that process. Because when they're trying to clean up the FBI, they're going to be looking for whistleblowers to come to them. And if those people aren't protected by law and you can treat them differently as the FBI, which is how the law stands right now, then it's kind of tough to really encourage people to come forward when you even as the director can't protect them from potential real legal jeopardy like their entire salaries and their lives and their jobs. So a great point there. It's something that we're going to watch very carefully. We're defending Garrett O'Boyle and others.
SPEAKER 11 :
It'd be interesting to bring those people in also in like an advisory role, you know, somewhere just briefly, you know, a contract or something like that.
SPEAKER 12 :
It doesn't have to be an employee. What happened to you and how did it happen to you so that you had to take on lawsuits because you had a different idea or you wanted to raise your voice as a whistleblower.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think about Frank Abagnale, who was the master check forger who they made the movie about, and then eventually he went up going to work for the government to help stop
SPEAKER 12 :
forgery yeah because he was a mastermind at it yeah i mean a lot of his they on the whistleblower front there's not a lot of protection for fbi for certain kinds of whistleblowers and the government utilizes that protection you know to say this is security information so they get put on this unpaid leave so they hold over your head well if you quit we're going to take away your security clearance The money's gone, so you've got to stick with us through your entire review. And if we deem you, if you take us to court maybe and it's imposed or through settlement, that they move on. But yeah, certainly they have a lot to add in a different way now that there will be different leadership So it won't just be testifying to a Congress who feels for them. It will be also testifying, talking to and working with an FBI director who needs more of them to actually clean up the FBI. And Logan, to these points, all of these are big, big initiatives. I want to go back to the campaign in Massachusetts because just to let people know, you know, we – putting the ads together, figuring out where to place them and tell them how we got to that $500,000 number. Sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, we've been working intensely with people in Massachusetts, different ad placement companies, the ones that will be happily work with us, by the way. And there were some of these companies and some are our partners like at Salem who were very emotional when we pitched this because they've seen these billboards, they've seen these ads and they're defeated. These pro-life pregnancy resource centers do not have the funds to to go and run a counter campaign like this. They don't have the resources to do it. Most of their staffs are volunteers. You know, many are really involved in the personal side of this. These aren't huge organizations. So when they heard about it, they were thrilled. And we were able to work with them as well as Groups who specifically work with marketing to people who are in need of resources, pregnancy resources. And how do we talk to them? We don't talk to them with shame. We don't talk to them, you know, with some sort of fire and brimstone. You talk to them to provide hope that they can go in, be heard, listen, be a part of that conversation, be presented with their options, and then hopefully, you know, maybe get an ultrasound. Hopefully they make that choice for life. And you'll see some of the billboards. We can put some of those up that we're working on right now. Planned or not, we can help. Whatever you decide, we're here for you in the pregnancy resource centers. So it's a different kind of message. You've created a life. Help someone else create a family. So obviously that's one that's more aimed towards adoption and they can do that. No shame, no pressure, free services for people who care. And of course, this is showing a younger woman and what that would look like. Sacrifice today and shine tomorrow. There's so many great ones that also that are marketed towards professional women, women who are because you're hearing that a lot. I saw just a disgusting campaign that ran that was specifically, hey, your life's destroyed because you got pregnant. Here's how you can fix it. And it broke my heart. So now we're able to do this incredible counter campaign. It is different. It is interesting. It is not typically what you see from the ACLJ, but that is why it's precisely needed right now. So again, I'm watching the fundraising come in. I'm seeing some of your response and it's amazing so far. Be a part of it. If we can raise that $500,000 today, who knows where we can take this next? And I know that sounds like a lofty number, but there's thousands of people that are watching right now. There's millions that will be listening later on. So I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org or if you want to know more about the campaign, ACLJ.org slash save babies. You can also scan the QR code right now. Do it. We know if you're going to do it right now that you are there to say you support this initiative. So we encourage you to do it right now. The pro-life movement is changing rapidly. We are having to adjust and change as now is moved to the state level. And some of these states have gone so radical that we have to respond correctly.
SPEAKER 12 :
And so, folks, what you do, you go to ACLJ.org today. ACLJ.org or ACLJ.org slash Save Babies. You can use that QR code if you're watching right now. And you donate today, and if we get to that number, we're able to launch the full campaign in Massachusetts. The information is prepared, as Logan said, it's all been put together, and this is to fight back for those pregnancy resource centers. If we can do it in Massachusetts, we can take it to other states where the pro-life viewpoint and these pregnancy resource centers who serve on the front lines of the movement to save lives, are under attack. They really are. And we want to make sure this goes off in Massachusetts and that we can do it in other states. But we've got to have the resources to do this. As Logan said, this is new. It's not something we planned for a year ago that we'd necessarily need to launch as the ACLJ. So donate today at ACLJ.org. Double the impact of that donation. Critical time, ACLJ.org.
In this episode, Reggie Rocco holds nothing back as he addresses pressing matters concerning national unity and immigrant policies. Tune in for in-depth discussions about upholding security and lawfulness, while hearing directly from community members who share their experiences and views on current politics. An episode you cannot miss if you seek genuine dialogue and insight.
SPEAKER 07 :
What's up? What's up? What's up? You've tuned in to 560 KLZ. I'm a Uniter. I'm a Uniter. I'm your host, Reggie Rocco.
SPEAKER 02 :
So what about now? You want everybody.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean everybody. Stand up. Stand up. Hold your hands up high. This is about America, baby. We bring people together. I'm a United.
SPEAKER 06 :
Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
SPEAKER 07 :
Woo! Five seats of kale, it's your yummy uniter, it's Reggie Rocco. Happy holidays. Wait, wait, that ain't Luke over there. That's Luke walking in. Joe, cool, man. We was about to kick it, buddy. Luke, how you doing, buddy? Being late, Reggie. That's what I'm doing. Oh, man, you're never late, dude. Hey, Joe, man. Hey, dude, you should stick around, man. You know what I'm saying? We was in some deep conversations. But you know, Lukey Luke is in the house now. Buddy. What the heck is going on? I'm so tired of. No, I'm not tired. I'm not tired of being right. I'm not tired of being right. I love it. I love it. Trump is shaking up, shaking up, shake him up, shake him up, shake him up, shake him. Need to be a rap song because he's killing it, buddy. Everybody's coming to light and to fruition. I feel such a joy, like a jingle bells. I feel just jolly. But seriously though, I want them to be careful. I want him to, you know, beef up his security. I want all that to keep rolling because we got to get him in. And even though everybody's coming in line, you know, of course, they're going to be challenges and they're going to try to do everything they can to block him in every way. We have good patriots out there, though, surrounding him and more to come. And then I think we need to set that up in every state, which I'll talk about what we're doing here as well. But big dog. I'm happy. I don't know. how long it's gonna last, but when it comes to what's going on, I think there's a vision of hope, of pride. A lot of people work hard, the station works hard to do what they gotta do to try to bring people together, but at the same time, get the truth out and then just make it better. I mean, we don't live a long time on this earth, so time is short, is it not? It is, it is. So how you feeling, you okay?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know. I came down with a little something. It's been hanging out in my sinuses, in my throat. That's why Joe did me the courtesy of turning your microphone on this morning. I was having a hard time getting up. Joe, cool.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you beat COVID, man. And you beat Mexican COVID.
SPEAKER 03 :
I beat COVID three times.
SPEAKER 07 :
Ain't nothing wrong with two, buddy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I had the first strain when it first hit. I got it again in Mexico. And then I got it again some other time. Yeah, it knocked me around. But whatever this is, it's lingering. So I've been...
SPEAKER 07 :
trying to keep up a little bit i've been so busy uh working on what what we're doing and i'm gonna say that but you remember some time ago when i was telling everybody about the gang the water gang i was like the bridge but then what's the what's the name i can't even remember whatever yeah i was like the water game and i talked with these people and i gave a message that said uh they are investigating the democrat party and i don't know if that's internationally through the whole united states but i know for sure it was in colorado because basically we're saying that these people had a deal or made some type of deal with the venezuelan head honcho to bring these people here and how they were going to do it and I guess some type of like they're funneling funds between, I think, some nonprofits or whatever. But I wasn't very detailed because I like to breathe. You know what I'm saying? The last thing you want to do is take off somebody that. you know floats in the shadows and has a lot of power and ammunition but uh no he he loved me he loved the show he back all the way back when trump three said we even interviewed him one time um but he's a head guy and it was a couple levels above that and i told you about the apartments and all of that then later a month later something like that then it starts getting out well i've been in touch in contact with some of these people And let's just be real about it. Luke, I was thinking about you when I came up with this. Anyway, I think we were on the air because you're very smart and you talk and you're real. I like where you stand. You're always in your face with what you believe. Now, we both agree that, OK, Trump's in. That gives us the power. Now we got to clean up this mess. But it's always harder. to clean up somebody else's mess, you know, than to just throw it away and, you know, start build from scratch. But obviously we can't do that with people. Now in all the neighborhoods I've been around and not just minority, but all these in Denver, Aurora, Lakewood, uh, Littleton, uh, where else was really, uh, what's, what's, what's the, uh, North Glen Thornton. Dude, they're everywhere. And a lot of them have bad attitudes. This is a fact. So if you know now that Trump is in and he's coming with his boaters already, I love him. And they're going to deport you. You're not going to leave like on your own will or effortlessly. I would say it like that. Am I right? I think that's his plan, right? Yeah. So when the immigrants start to say, heck, no, defy the law and say, I'm not going anywhere. And they use all these numbers because it's a lot of numbers. What are we going to do? You already have the mayor that's came out and said, hey, I'm going to stand with the illegal immigrants. I'm going to do everything to block Trump, which I don't know why we just can't fly in, put him in jail now and all that. But just that guy having that voice and saying that is igniting the other people that are here illegally, male and female. I know this because I talked to some and they're saying they're not going anywhere. So I envision, like the people told me back when I was at the theater, that they see it could possibly be a civil war. These are their words, not mine. And it's on record. I said it. What they said, you know, a month or so ago. If they're not going to leave, that means we've got to force them to leave. And I don't know what Trump's bringing. I don't know what the ICE is bringing. But to me, that sounds like a battle, does it not? I'm just like, wow. So be ready. I'm ready. And one of the ways that we're going to, who's that? Is that Johnny? Johnny on the line?
SPEAKER 03 :
We got Johnny on the line for you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Johnny, pat you in. What's up, buddy?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, in New York, this is what they're doing. So they know if these guys are in these encampments, hotels, that it's easier for ICE to come and get them. So now what they're doing is with the housing authority in New York, they're giving them vouchers, vouchers that belong to Americans, and they're moving them into neighborhoods so it's not as easy to find people these other ones that might have had their... So put the key word in front of that, urban neighborhoods. Right, right. Yeah. So, you know, these guys, they talk to each other. So I'm thinking, like, if they're doing it in New York, they're probably talking to people here in Denver and saying... This is how you do it. So so they have a harder time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Most definitely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that's why I love you, man. You're informed because that's exactly the point I was going to hit. And you are always on point. Yes, that's what they're doing. So they're definitely sharing this information. It's a tactical maneuver to go against Trump and disobey the order and the will of the people and the law of the people. And that's what they're doing. And I don't understand how that's not a crime in itself. How come, Mike, when we see what they're doing, we just don't go ahead and get them now and remove them out? Can you tell me you know how that works?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, you heard Johnson saying that he keeps lying. And maybe it wasn't a lie. Maybe they tell you what they're doing. underneath like a half-life you kept on saying well they're not going to pull the the maids that are working at the hotels or the kids that are working in school so if you uh put them deeper into the neighborhoods and you find one one illegal that that's a criminal you take them but you look around and say well there's another illegal there's another they're going to take those other ones as well so maybe he's telling the truth about we're going to stand against them coming to get these other people because Just like the Hamas, they're mixing in with the crowd.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's how you do it. You hide in plain sight. That's what I was saying, plain sight. So they mix into the crowd. This is street stuff, y'all. Y'all, you got to understand, man, there's different levels. And, Johnny, you very, very much are hitting it on time. They're melting in. They're blending in. And I can tell you from the couple people I talked to that I know, both of them are female. Very beautiful, by the way. But get the heck up out of here. I don't give a hoot. The bottom line is they have been told that they are going to be selective with the days they work and even where they go. So I'm like, wow, really? How are you going to do that? And he's like, yeah, they do not plan on leaving here at all, that they're not going to do it, and they're going to join forces with whoever and whatever that they can to anchor themselves here, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, what about when the funds dry up? Because that federal money is going to dry up eventually.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they're criminals. I mean, a lot of the people that I see and that I so-called loosely say no, they're not into just the money coming from the government. These are hustlers, yo. These people are robbing the stores and you see them out on the streets selling it on the streets. These people are robbing your home, your cars, and selling your cars, and taking your cars to chop shops, and chopping them up, and everything they can do. They're everywhere. Go over to, off of Peoria, I forget over there, over by that Denny's over there, and just a little east of that little community over there. Man, you'll find so many Hispanic illegals over there, and they're all painting, stripping cars, selling food and burritos. They're doing all that kind of stuff, and they're making that money, and they don't even have a – they just – some of them live at the shops. I mean, you can definitely tell what's going on. And there's one thing about these people I told you, unlike our people, Johnny, they stick together. They stick together, dude. This is not going to be an easy situation. And then if you have our government, who's supposed to be with us and abide by the law, if they're setting up the block, their own wall, to hide these people and do everything they can to stop President Trump and ICE and law enforcement, whatever, then that tells you right there, we're going to have to have information. And the way we get the information is not through the social media. Like I've been saying, it's through the social media. It's not through the regular media. And did you hear about the federal government, Johnny? I don't know if it was Trump or one of his cabinet members, but they're saying they want to put together a social media to get the truth out to reach. And I'm just like, oh, my God. It came on Fox. I said, this is what I've been saying. I've been saying this crap for six months. People just listen. Just listen, and we'd be so far ahead of at least the game in reference to what's going to take place on these streets because you're going to need boots on the ground. You're going to need boots on the ground. You're going to have people with credibility like myself with relationships that know the entertainment business, that know the political end, that know the streets, that's pretty much well-rounded in a lot of things. And You're going to have to have boots on the ground, people like that. You're going to have to have people in a facility to create the news, to get the news out, be able to get it to reach the people. Because it's not going to go through NBC, CBS. It's not going to go through them. They are not going to report. If we got all the stuff happening here in Colorado, they're not going to report that national, buddy. Hey, Johnny, don't hang up. Don't hang up, buddy. We're going to go to commercial. We'll be right back. KLC, I'm in your night. That was Reggie Rocco. Johnny's on the line. Hey, we got another caller, too, as well. What's his name, Luke? Got AJ on the line. AJ. AJ, can you hear me? Yes, sir. How you doing? Good, good. What's on your mind? Who are you?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, yeah. I mean, well, look, man. I mean, like, you know, I am just your average hardworking black man. You know what I'm saying? Seeking truth, man. And like, you know, to be honest, To be honest, man, like, you know, I mean, like, you know, to be honest, I was able to come across your radio channel two weeks ago. And like and like, you know, first I was like, OK, you know what? It's just so rare. It's just so rare that someone is willing to speak the truth. someone's willing to speak the truth like this, you know, because like, you know, because like, you know, as you were just saying, man, it's so hard to find it on the news channels. I'd be having to go on Twitter. I'd be having to go on these different platforms, but it's just so rare to hear truth, man. So like, you know, I just want to call it a day and say, man, I appreciate what you guys are doing because I, Because to be honest, man, personally, as a black man, they always think that all of us are going to be one monolithic group think type situation, man. And like, you know, this year personally has been so eye opening for me. So, you know, I'm saying everything happens for a reason, man. I was I just happened to be I just happened to be on my way to work two weeks ago. came across your channel, I'm like, man, I've just been trying to stay tuned in because, man, you are a truth teller. And like, man, I just wanted to call in, man, like, you know, tell you how I appreciate you, man.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, dude. Well, hey, I'm going to have you leave your info or... You know, and you don't have to leave your real info, just like a contact, even an email, because that's how we do it here. You suffer, unfortunately, when you say you are a Trump supporter or a conservative or Republican or even just have your mind open to the truth. You know, it's a backlash. So I appreciate that. But let me ask you a question. You sound like a grown man, but you're kind of young. But let me ask you this question. How is it that is it? The way we get to the people and spread the news and the word, it is through social media, correct?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. I mean, well, like, you know, these days, man, because I think at this point people have realized that. That, like, you know, too many people, I mean, especially when you think of networks, they're not able to look at things, like, you know, objectively. So it's hard to just be able to just, you know what I'm saying, get truth, man. So, yeah, me personally, I've been having to go on X, Reddit, you know what I'm saying, platforms like that, just so I can just see facts for what it is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know what? Be looking out for We Are Black Lives MAGA on TikTok. And also we have a website called Black Lives MAGA. And that is going to be a social media facility. And, you know, that's that's a hot, hot little name, right? Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Black Lives MAGA. BlackLivesMAGA.com. And I believe that if we set it up with us, with us, you know, being black, black hispanic people you have to build it and they'll come but once we get that going on then we can reach our people and we can spread it'll spread and we can bypass the fake news and everything that they do to stop the word from getting out so i appreciate you calling in big dog i hope you call in uh that's hey i sound like you're a fan now
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, hey man, I am a fan. And like, you know, thank you for telling me about the website. Black Lives MAGA? Is that what it is?
SPEAKER 07 :
BlackLivesMAGA.com. Okay. All right, man. All right, for sure, man. All right, buddy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Take it easy. For sure, man. I wanted to piggyback on that. They used to have a talk show on the hip-hop station, and they had this woman who was the gatekeeper. So if the Hispanic guy who was more conservative... got out of line and got two conservatives he would put him back on track on the liberal crack track right so if you do have a a talk show on a liberal station and the person is not exactly there they always they have the gatekeepers to pull them back wow
SPEAKER 07 :
Dude, it is so much. Let me give you an example, man. So I've been creating. There's major things in reference to promotions, marketing, and all that. We don't have to go through my whole history from 20 years ago. But I'm telling you, I have an ability to learn whatever I need to learn pretty quick. and uh put that together and i see the writing on the wall it's so so simple so easy that we have to get boots on the ground we have to have our own network of information i want to work with law enforcement and the politicians i know so we can get the word out Now, even how hard it is for me to get the word out, Don, you don't understand. My Democrat friend can put something out, make a video that take him two, three hours, two hours, put out, put it on TikTok, Instagram. And it's it's this dog and Trump. It's it's a pro Democrat. Nothing happened. If I'll take six hours to get just a creation from just beautiful from the creativity side. aspect of animation, motion graphics, writing the scene, scripts, all this stuff. I put all this stuff together, and I look up, it's almost nighttime, and I say, okay, I'm about to post. I post it on TikTok. What happens? What do you think happens?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think with the algorithm, they can control that, and they can submerge stuff as well as let it flow.
SPEAKER 07 :
How about block? Block. They block it straight off of there. So that's what's pissed me off about. Hold on. We got to call her. Danielle. Danielle, you on the line?
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm sorry. Yes, I'm on. I'm just listening, fellas. What's up, buddy? How are you? Hey, how you doing, man? I was listening to you guys this program. Well, I've been listening to it probably for like some months. And my daughters just turned it there an accident. And I've just been listening to it. I'm like, hold up, man. This is like a lot of stuff that I talk about on my Facebook page for 15 years. Really? And I'm like, well, where are all these people at doing what I'm doing? I'm the only one now. I'm on Facebook with thousands of truthers all over the world. I mean, I'm on people. I'm on there with people in Africa, Australia, New York, all over the United States. And I have a network that talks about this thing. I put this info on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, guess what, big dog? You found the number one in Colorado, the number one black man, the Amitrosa here at KLZ. I'm that dude. But let me tell you, matter of fact, I want you to come on next week. That's how we're going to do this. You're going to come on the show next week. But let me tell you, I couldn't do it without the support of Mr. Crawford and Mike and everybody here, you know, producers, Luke, everybody comes in and they let me be me. And I just speak the truth.
SPEAKER 01 :
And that's just what it is. I love your station, man. I love the station, man. Appreciate it. It's like about time. That's what I'm like, about time. Because no one's saying anything about all these issues that's going on, man. I had foreigners or immigrants, you know, behind my girlfriend's house. You know, I got two daughters. And, you know, they're just looking to just grab stuff. And, you know, actually, I'm giving stuff away because I'm getting rid of stuff. So, you know, they say, hey, free. I'm like, here, go on and take it. And I'm like, whoa, this is starting to be a serious problem. These people are just randomly going through alley. Oh, yes. Yes. People step. So I'm like, dang, do I need to get more heated? I don't know. Protection.
SPEAKER 07 :
I can tell you what some of my law enforcement friends told me, like, always protect yourself. When my car was stolen, they said, don't approach it because it's guaranteed to have drugs or a weapon in it. And, of course, they were right. They tried to steal my Range Rover, which I don't have anymore, which I'm getting ready to get another one. But three times, dude, one time I was in it. So this is how long I've been going through this. My family got hit by a hit and run. I've got people laying in the streets dead. I've got all kind of footage. in reference to what takes place out here.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I grew up in a law enforcement family, man, a black law enforcement. You know, I watched a lot of political stuff and I grew up in it. I grew up in a household of sheriffs. And I watched it. My grandfather was one for 48 years. He was a sergeant. My auntie, she was a sergeant 38 years. My cousin, she's a chief now. My other cousin, she's a sergeant. You know, I know plenty of people, you know, in law enforcement and, you know, sheriffs and Denver police, you know, and I respect them a lot.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, man, we definitely got to meet, man. God works in mysterious ways. Now, being of black African descent, we know that in order for us to see and for us to learn, you got to put it in our community. You've got to be in our face to talk about it and not be afraid to be like, hey, man, you wrong. Are you smoking? Like, you know, this is not... This is not what it is. And you know we have to do that. So with this center, dude, what's your opinion on that? So we have Black Lives MAGA and we're actually putting together, we have a business plan, a pitch deck, and we're looking for properties and stuff now. But I want to use that for the main thing is for social media to get the truth to bypass this blue media out here and the blue government out here because they're going to going to suppress the truth. And it's going to be a lot of... You see the violence.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, right, right. People... Um, I like my network. I have a lot of truthers on the people who talk about this stuff, but it's not out there because they blocked a lot of comments. They like, yes, they even set your page down just for a couple of hours or so. So people can't see posts, certain posts. So I ended up turned it around. I started tagging people in the post.
SPEAKER 07 :
oh man oh i'm so glad you called buddy i am so glad i am so glad because that's 100 true yeah i got to work 12 hours to get something that should take after creation you know 10 minutes to post um right but let me ask you this with all the trouble that you've seen because their fights they buck up i've been almost i've been in so many you know confrontations i Off of nothing. I said one time inside of a Walmart to a guy that was had the he was pushing the buggies. And I said, hey. And he looked at me. I said, hi. I said, hey, amigo, can I can I get one of those? He's oh, sure. And we're cool. I take five steps inside of Walmart and a Mexican Hispanic lady comes around the corner, chewing me out, ready to fight me. Talking about I said, don't ever call him amigo. And I said, I mean, loud.
SPEAKER 01 :
So it's amazing. A lot of that right there is gaslighting. So when they gaslight like that, they're putting some kind of program to harass people. Yes. And that's called gang stalking. Gang stalking is neighborhood harassment. And they use different people within the community. to even go along with these gangs of harassment. I mean, I didn't have flat tires, you know, but I stayed positive because I had my boss that I worked for for 10 years. He has a tire shop. So I was able to get, you know, he knows my situation. So he gives me tires dang near, you know? So, you know, that, that phase is over. I mean, I had my grill busted with rocks, you know, somebody threw a rock in my grill, you know, um,
SPEAKER 07 :
So when you look around and you say, okay, you're messing with the wrong one. You know, hey, I can fight. But then when you look around and it's 100 to 1, I mean, that's not good odds.
SPEAKER 01 :
They're more scared than one or two persons. That's how I look at it. They're scary. Hey, well, you know what? Hey, dude, I'm so glad. I watched it too long. I am so glad you called. I've been out here by myself. I mean, I've run into a lot of people. I watch things get reversed on these people, too, just from the stores that I visit. Because these store owners that I've been dealing with over 10 years, they were able to see... what I was going through, even though they didn't believe me at first. And then they start to see it. Now they're on Facebook with me. So they get to see a lot of the stuff that I post. That's that I already told them 10 years ago. So I guess that's my following. I have a big following as far as like just regular people in the community. Right. He's like, every time you come in my store, there's a guy looking over the counter at you. And I thought you were casing my story, man. I was like, no, I'm not casing your story. I was like, I was trying to tell you it's called gang stalking. These guys are put in a program to get less time on probation or parole. You know, now that the immigrants, you know, they might be getting in some trouble or something. They get less time in parole to watch American citizens.
SPEAKER 07 :
So why do I feel like. And this is true. And I hope the listeners are really paying attention because they know, you know, I'm about six feet, 245, 250, you know, and I'm not I can't beat Mike Tyson, but I'm not afraid of pretty much nothing in human.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right. Size don't matter. I'm not a big dude. Size does not matter. Trust me.
SPEAKER 07 :
But why is it then that when they look at me that they seem like they're picking on me? They seem like they're trying to bully me.
SPEAKER 01 :
The reason why they're doing it, that's what it's called. The gang-stalking thing is bullying. It's community bullying. And what they do is try to intimidate people the best way they can, and they use different people. So they feel, as a team all together, they feel tough. But really, they're scared. So how do we get them out of here? People who's putting them out there do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
True. So how do we get them out of here? Because I was explaining to my audience as well that the women stick with they men.
SPEAKER 01 :
Information, flyers, information, flyers, and pictures.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. So we have to work with... Pictures and information. And we find out, I know where a lot of them are. I know where the ones on the ground that carry the weapons.
SPEAKER 01 :
You take it to Cherry Creek. You take it to these areas where people don't know about this stuff, where they don't know about chemtrails, where they're modifying the damn weather. So, I mean, you take it to those areas and those people are going to fight. Well, we definitely... I mean, even within this black community, Park Hill, I'm in that area, and I'm in two areas, actually. I'm on the west side, and I'm in Park Hill. Oh, so you're in the mix. I'm in Valverde, and I'm in Park Hill. So...
SPEAKER 07 :
the thing about it is to get photos they hate being exposed okay so good so look so so you agree boots on the ground we need we need social media influence we need to advertise and get the information throughout the country with boots on the ground and through social media and we need to have connections to people who have connections with the law enforcement
SPEAKER 01 :
Right. Exactly. Exactly. And I got tons of that. So, I mean, I grew up around a lot. I mean, I watch I watch females bodyguard the mayor, you know, law enforcement bodyguard the mayor. That's what I grew up watching my whole life, waking up, seeing badges and changing in handcuffs. And so I woke up seeing that every day of my life.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you've never heard of me? You've never heard of I'm a Trumpster?
SPEAKER 01 :
I bet you one of my law enforcement family members probably has. I think that's important. And they're real positive people, man. That's why I really respect my cousins that's in the law enforcement, my auntie. You know, I really respect them because I've seen them do good for people because I've been in jail before. You know, just bogus stuff, small stuff. And, you know, I had people ask me, oh, what are you doing in here? You know, too, just walking down the dang street, you know, and I got stopped.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a lot of things with it You know So here's my question to you Before I let you go Can you leave your information With my producer I'm telling you right now I want you to come on live Because it's amazing what you've been saying And you're echoing everything And then of course my head's swelling up That you were putting your daughter to find me I got the radio on but it's on low I'm turning the radio off For a second Hey, buddy, it's going down. Trust me. And I'll give you all the information.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's a lot of things that's going to be reversed with all the crap that's going on around here. And I've seen a lot of stuff reversed. You know what I'm saying? The universe doesn't work that way where these people can do what they want and it works that way. that their life is not perfect so i don't know why they think their life is perfect and they can harass everybody else out here man i've seen old people done died from the harassment and they're scared of the harassment i'm not scared of it see and they know i'm not scared and i don't need my law enforcement family to back me and right right bullcrap trust me and um
SPEAKER 07 :
I had this conversation with a lady that's very dear, Ms. Evelyn Zurich. She told me the same thing, that the elder people, they want to do it, but they're afraid and other people are afraid to go into these situations. And I understand that. But we're not, though, right? Right.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I've been in it too long, bro. I mean, even before the social media, I was already, you know, watching things and reading a lot. I have a habit of reading. I mean, right. When I get off with you, I'm going to just be reading and reading and reading the information on my page and on other people's page that I'm connected with. That's how I get a lot of information. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, cool. So we got to go to break, big dog. It's nice talking to you. Leave your information with my boy, Luke, and then we'll definitely hook up shortly.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay. Yeah, we will. All right, big dog. Peace.
SPEAKER 07 :
One, two, three. God. Hey, Reg, why are you pacing around the studio? I'm like, I'm just so hyped, man. I'm hyped. The movement is definitely happening. I'm excited about... What's his name again, Luke? Is it Daniel or Danny? What is it? Daniel. Daniel. Great. Johnny?
SPEAKER 04 :
There's another guy, but he's on the left. And it would be interesting to have... him in that loop of compensation to see if he has opened his eyes or if he's just going to stick with the left because that's where he's getting his money from. And that's a guy named Brother Jeff.
SPEAKER 07 :
Get him. You contact him. Tell him that he can come on Friday. He can contact me, contact you. Matter of fact, have him contact you and set it up at the time and all that and then you call me and let me know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because these guys, I know they're trying to double down on the left and He's not – I don't know if he's as crazy as to go with the mutilation of the kids, like they're talking and all that kind of stuff, but he is definitely down with the left, thinking that that's the – and the Republicans are racist and all that kind of stuff. Be where he's at and seem to be aware. I just think maybe that's where he's getting his money from. So that's where he's sticking with.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you know how powerful this is going to be with Black Lives Matter here? And we do what we do in reference to getting the information out. Just like this man just said, we have a connection with law enforcement where we can get information. certain things that they want us to say and how they want us to say it to bypass all this because it's going to be a shutdown here it already is and it's going to be you know they their exact words were civil war i'm like come on man really once once we say hey they got to go and and they know that's what's up they're gonna be running across the border right nope He's like, why would you run when you're getting all this free money? You're driving for free. You're eating for free. You're committing crimes with no impunity, no jail. You're operating just free. And you're being a menace to society. And why would you want to leave this? He said, we're going to have to make them leave. And I truly, truly believe that. So we have to be able to stick together. But we definitely need boots on the ground. But in my neighborhoods, it's so hard. I think it's a lot easier now because we've been working so hard because my Hispanic friends and my black friends, they know me. They know what's up and they know what's going on in their community now to get them out. uh with actual boots on the ground and in public that might you know that might jeopardize their financial stuff so i don't know we have we're putting it together but i've got a phone everybody got a home so they can just videotape it and send it in your your yeah you would be the the hub right and put it up there and they could do it anonymous anonymous i love you man exactly and then we can get it out that way right And then I'm already looking for a group of influencers that can sit there and do these fire videos. And I'm even willing to teach some that are good, that want to be great. But to get that out, because that's the key, too. And I know how to manipulate the other rhythms and TikTok, obviously. It's harder. I'll never have a million followers or 100,000 followers. That'll never happen because they keep taking me sight down. But every time I put it out there, boom, it starts blowing up, Donnie. And all of a sudden, it comes to a screeching halt. Then you get this message. But China, I heard they hacked our cell phones. Now, they're saying this on Apple. Look it up. It's supposed to be the 18.1. Don't upgrade the operating system because there's something tied in with China where they're getting your pictures and information and all this stuff. And I'm looking, and it's real. I haven't dove into it, but I definitely haven't updated my system, but it's coming out everywhere. But you won't see or hear none of this on the news. Definitely, the way we have to reach people is through social media. And if people can do like what you said, take a video or picture with their phone, and they have a portal to send that information online, to me that I have my team we can put it into a news format and a media format a video format and get it out there and that's cool the other thing with the officers I know I'm not going to speak on that because they might be giving me something that you know they don't want nobody else to have but me to get out there where it needs to go so I don't know but I know they need information And according to my sources, they plan on hitting here hard, but they don't expect it to be easy with all the backlashes coming from the government. And so, to me, that's a fight. Does that not sound like a fight to you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. My dream is to see Mike Johnson in handcuffs. That's my dream.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I agree. I agree. Can we make him? Send Luke, man. Luke will do it, man. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I can see. Okay, hands behind your back, please.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, lookie, look. No, but it's humbling. It's humbling because I'm looking outside the window now, and I see just how Colorado, the mountains, it reminds me of how it used to be. You know, I used to come back from Atlanta, California, and we'd get out of the rat race and just be like, ah, home. But now this is the rat race.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, we're messed up, man. We're highly, highly compromised. But Trump won. I said he was going to do it. I stuck with it. I always will. I will back this man. I haven't heard anything that he's ever done. That would even come close to make me even go against him in any form or fashion. And that's not a fanatic. I'm just real. Because when you know what I know from behind the scenes, from the entertainment side and all the things he's done for black people that you will never hear. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what I wish he would touch on is the welfare, where they put that clause in. You can have welfare, but you have to get the man out of the house. I wish he could reverse that, make it like work. You have to be trained to do a job or whatever, but the man... can be in the house because the democrats set that up for a long term to direct the black community of course did a very good job of it and we could reverse that where we need to make a list johnny you know we need to get a list of us black folk of all the things that we know i mean and i'm talking about regular people but also educated people
SPEAKER 07 :
um to where we can put a list together and and get it to him somehow because i've been i've already been starting on my list man that's a couple of things i i actually really want him to take this tick tock down i want him to destroy facebook and tick tock like i do like take it down You know that Zuckerberg is jumping on the train. He's trying to because he know what's up. He colluded with the FBI and he suppressed freedom of speech. He's a rat. He's a freaking weirdo rat. And he knows now that, you know, the boss is in town and he's trying to keep his dollars in. Well, you don't made enough. You're worth the what? A hundred million, whatever. He's a billion. You know, get rid of him. Get rid of Facebook. Get rid of all that. And let's get situations where we have these companies that are made in America and they're governed and they go by our Constitution and our laws. Because I can tell you something real quick about TikTok. They sent me a message saying that one of the videos I did was performing just great. And they said, you should promote it again. Well, the first thing I looked at is I didn't promote it the first time. So it's a tag they sent me. So I click on that tab. It takes me right to buy, purchase this for promotes and views and blah, blah, blah. I said, okay, let me pay. Let me see what's up. Dude, as soon as I pressed that and they took the money that Apple processes. Two minutes later, they sent me a message. I'm sorry, we cannot promote this video. It doesn't fall in line with our values, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, you just sent me, two minutes ago, you just sent me a coupon saying that it's doing well. So that right there is a scam. That's a hustle. Understand, America? That's a hustle. They're telling you, they're sending out little coupons and notes saying, hey, you're doing well. Send this, you know, promote it. And you go there, they take your money. Apple processes it. Then they turn right back around and say, ah, you think you're crazy. We ain't promoting none of this Trump stuff. And then I said, okay, give me my money back. I pressed the refund button. They refunded me half of my money. I said, so where's the other half? So I call Apple. I'm going in for a whole hour and a half. I am going in. And while I'm going in, I look at the account. The rest of it disappears. So now now the lady's telling me that she knows about some of the stuff that's going on in digital platforms with digital money and they're having an issue with it. I said, well, of course, China, Trump says intellectual properties. China is a dictatorship. China's stealing all our information and they're doing everything that they do. Of course, they're hustling. So that money disappeared out of my pocket. TikTok account. It's all digital now. So then the lady said, you know what, Reggie, you should go ahead and do what you said. I said, I'm gonna go ahead and pay for two more or two different videos. Right. This way. She said, screenshot it. Gather all the information. I said, I'm going to do it all. So I got screenshots and everything. I went back. I put out another video and I just waited. Start hitting up, hitting, hitting, hitting. There it goes. They sent me a coupon. Oh, your video's doing great. Promote it. So I said, OK, press the button again. Went straight to my to the account, took the money out of my account. Apple process another boom, boom. Two to five minutes later, they turn around and said, I'm sorry, we cannot promote this. The whole thing is a scam to get your money. And once they process your money digitally, they have it. It's in their realm. So there's nothing you can do. So now I see the money. I press refund again, Johnny. It was supposed to be $25. Guess how much it was? $8. So I'm like, what the freak? So I'm getting online with Apple saying I got it. I'm getting all this information. Dude, I looked at it today. It's all gone. So a total of $40 in promotion. that they say that the video was doing well, that they were going to promote it. They didn't promote it. Took your money, left it, said you can get a refund, only gave me half of the refund, and then two days later, that part of the half of the refund is gone as well. So my whole account has zero money in it, zero promotions, and it just robbed me out of $40.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course, you're talking about this, but I don't see any.
SPEAKER 07 :
bet you're not the only one so they they get you guys like like single out everybody where nobody knows because how are you going to get the word out i i i i go you can go ahead right now go to google go to search to the search bar to tiktok and say uh tiktok sent me a promo coupon or and didn't promote my video or tiktok keep kept my money it's coming out there now it's coming out there And on Reddit, I just left something on Reddit and explained the whole situation on Reddit. They're saying, I just put $320 to promote a video. Oh, yeah, promote your video. He paid the money. They took the money. Then they said, nope, we're not going to do it because the videos doesn't meet our standards. Okay, well, press refund. Give me my money back. You have a choice to have your money and or have that much worth of credit to buy something else. So you press money. You're supposed to have $320 in your bank. It's only half. If that. And then they end up taking that. Where does this money go, Johnny? What are they doing? They are siphoning. They are mining our digital currency. And they are ripping us off beyond belief. They are making zillions of dollars. Think about it, sometimes 100 million people. They're making all this money stealing from us, and we can't do nothing. Get rid of the platform. Blow the platform up. Have some creators from here create something like it. That's what I want to be monitored. I want the government to monitor that and take care of that. I do. I think that's the best thing, is for our government to... When it comes to this digital money and these platforms and all this and information and our Constitution and freedom of speech, suppressing our speech, yo. No, we need to have that in control of the big dogs. And now that we got Trump and hopefully we'll have Vance for another eight years. So this is our time, man. This is our time. So we need to get that center up because January 20th is right around the corner. It's around the corner. So we definitely if you got to listen, if you do go on TikTok, just go to We Are Black Lives MAGA and check out these. These videos are so dope. I've been getting so many comments directly about how are you doing? This is great. But and then the website is WeAreBlackLivesMAGA.com. And we're going to get a facility that's going to do wonders in helping the deportation and keeping the truth and battling the media. That's what we got to do. And like Daniel called before, I can't wait to meet him. He knows exactly what's up. He's telling 100% the truth.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, this is going to be exciting. I mean, like bringing the team together and building it. That would be, oh, because you know you on the team, Johnny.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know that. I can't wait. And every law enforcement person I talked to you mentioned, they're just like, whoa, that's that's exactly it. That's that's good. Put it together. Yes, yes, yes. So I'm talking to a couple of people to make this. And we can actually do it rather easily. I won't say cheap, inexpensive, because basically all we need is to get the building and have a budget to pay for that freaking building. And we'll have volunteers, I'm sure, of some people are going to be like, hey, you got to pay me. But the bottom line, once we have that set up, then we can keep growing and we can keep getting money. We could operate it just like a business and do what we need to do. But January 20th is around the corner. I'm so interested to see how this is going to... Play out. I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be violent. Do you?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think so. I mean, we just have to get, because this money here, man, because I went to a concert the other night, and the front row seats were $300. This place was sold out. What? It was at the Denver Complex, and I never even heard this thing. It was a 64-year-old lady and great voice, but doing Christmas songs. And the place, it was sold out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, man. I wish I would have known something like that. So the Merry Christmas spirit and all that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it was Wednesday night, middle of the week. And that place, it was a Buell Theater. And like I said, the front row are $300. And all the seats were taken throughout that. Our seats were like $100. So that was, you know, that was a bite. But still... It was sold out. There's money here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, definitely here. But just like that guy said, they don't know it. They can't see it. He's never heard it. I'm like, dude, are you serious? Four nationals television shows since I'm in Trump's circle. I mean, he has never heard, but his daughter, I believe you said his daughter heard or something and told him about it or whatever. But here's the key. Here's the key. And I'm going to ask Luke this because we got about a few minutes left. I'm going to ask Luke and I'm going to ask you. Do we need to promote the facility, or do we need to keep it on the low and work on the low end, or do we need to have both? Like, if we promote it and they know where we are, you know they're coming. Let me tell you what you can do.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can get a grant for $10,000 from Google, but you have to direct all the advertisement towards your website because you have a nonprofit. You can direct $10,000 worth of Google ads to your website promoting what you're doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Even if the company, the actual company is not, it's an LLC, it's not a corporation, it's not.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can say that your LLC is supporting this nonprofit and it's on this website.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which it will be because that's how I plan and you know about nonprofits. That's how I plan about getting furniture and desks and chairs and all that stuff. I can easily do that through my nonprofit. I was feeding 36,000 people a year for four years.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's $10,000 a month. It's not just one time. It's every month.
SPEAKER 07 :
Johnny, you're hired. Luke's telling me right now, ship him all the information. Oh, my God. Luke, man, what time is it, man? How much time we got left? Like two minutes. Two minutes. Anything you want to say real quick, Johnny?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, I just want to let people know that, you know, we... Our company, Intervision Records.org, we are working with an artist named Tony, and he's blind, and he has a look, and just keep looking out for his name. It's Tony with an I, so just keep looking out for him, and we're just going to get it out there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did you say he was visually impaired? Yes, yes. What kind of music are you doing?
SPEAKER 04 :
R and B. Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's cool, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's 24 years old, young guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so is he Republican or Democrat?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I don't know what he is. He's working with me, so, you know, he's not showing any signs of being like a left wing.
SPEAKER 07 :
A left wing, a liberal. Well, hey, man, definitely much love with that. Definitely will support that. You know we will support that. So, Donnie, look, we're going to count it down because we've got to get up out of here. Here we go. Three, two, one, and we out. Yeah. All right, y'all. It's that time. We out of here. But you've been listening to KLC 560 AM. I'm a Unite Reggie Rocko. Yeah, it's fun. We will tackle the issues. We will unite the country every week, every Friday morning from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. It's about love, y'all. Have a wonderful morning and a great day.
Join Bill as he evaluates the performance of major stocks including Lilly and NVIDIA, while highlighting challenges in the biotech sector with Novo Nordisk's recent downturn. The episode also touches on broader economic implications of global trade dynamics, particularly in the oil and gas sector, and potential tariffs. Get a comprehensive view of how these factors could shape financial markets in the short and long term, culminating with practical advice for navigating these volatile waters.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome to the Friday. It is the Friday, December 20th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. Volatility hanging in the air still. Right now to the good side, however. The futures were way down this morning. And now you've actually got the Dow going positive by 41. Anybody got whiplash yet here? Dow up 41 points right now. That puts it at 42,374. The NASDAQ, which was down like 300 in the pre-market, is now down just 54 points. It's at 19,318. The S&P is down 3, 5,864. Small caps are actually up a little bit here. Let's look at interest rates. The 10-year is, you know, I think 4.5 is probably about where they belong, and that's about where they're at right now. We get down close to 4% and they want to come back. You get over 4.5% and they want to come back into that 4.5% area. And right now the 10-year is at 4.52%. Bitcoin was getting clobbered here this morning. It is still down a pretty good amount. It's down $46.96. It was down about $8,000 here a little while ago. $96,054 as a new wrinkle arises on Wall Street. So welcome to the Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, home from New York, sitting on the very peaceful, quiet Wando River, away from the traffic and the hubbub and the honking horns and the Ubers and the taxis and the delivery trucks and Just wow, just a lot of chaos in New York City, a lot of noise. But, you know, some people relish it, some people thrive on it, some people love it. Sensory overload. I like a little quieter setting myself, but I do love visiting New York. Okay, well, we have a new wrinkle thrown in the market, and it's the government shutdown wrinkle. It's the Doge Boys wrinkle. It's the Elon Musk, the shadow president wrinkle. You know, the cost-cutting has to begin somewhere, and it sounds like the line has been drawn. It begins now. And, you know, all those little goodies. You know, it seems like the Democrats, of course, it was all, now listen, this was a bipartisan bill originally with all the little goodies, all the little Christmas stockings stuffed with good little goodies in there. I would like to see the complete list of crap that was shoved in there behind our backs, kind of in the dark of night. Let's shine a light on all of that stuff, and let's find out who put that stuff in there. Let's hold these people accountable. You know, when they arrest somebody in Charleston, Barry, their mugshot goes in the paper here, right? You don't want to get arrested in Charleston.
SPEAKER 05 :
It never comes down.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you stuff a pork bill into one of these, you know, hey, we just need money to fund the government here. We don't need all of this extra crap shoved in here. This has been going on for too long, so I'm all for it. My wife said it's almost too good to be true that we actually have a watchdog now reporting to the people the stuff that's going on behind our backs in the dark of night. But it is causing a little bit of disruption here in the markets. You know, it wasn't enough that our friend Jerome Powell ruined another Christmas Santa Claus rally. But now we had last night that stopgap spending bill go down to defeat. And, you know, I think the people, look, the mandate, the people elected Trump, I think if you're a Republican and you win against him, I think you should also be exposed for that. I think they've got to get together and do things and be one. Diversified and fighting one another is going to be... And I think that also shines the light on how difficult it's going to be to cut these expenses. Look, it's like giving up sugar. It's like giving up caffeine. It's like giving up both of them at once, okay, or whatever your vice is. The government has been on this for so long and putting all these little sugar cookies into these packages that nobody really sees. Who's going to read a 1,500-page document to find all these little packages and who put them in there? It's about time that we have accountability. And I'm happy. But obviously, it's going to be a tough road to decrease the spending.
SPEAKER 05 :
It creates uncertainty, right? And we always talk about it all the time. The market hates uncertainty. And, of course, there's going to be some pain level as you work through spending. regardless, right, is a buffer or is at least a tailwind for the economy. And so when you're pulling that back, right, there's going to be some short-term pain. And I think your note this morning kind of nailed it where it's like, you know, we certainly have some short-term pain, but it'll get figured out. It's not like we're not going to fund the government at some point, right? You know, the point, I think the thing is, is In the interim, there is some uncertainty, a little chaos, which if you go back to the first Trump administration, the markets were on their seats in terms of watching tweets and seeing what was going to be said. There's going to be things that are said that are going to move the market, really, because they're creating uncertainty around it. In the long run, like you said, I think it's going to be certainly better in terms of changing the cost structure of Washington and the government in general.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we had a little bit of a rebound in the market yesterday. Not much. I mean, after the 1,000-point plunge, we were up about 60 basis points. We had an okay day yesterday. And then we're down a little bit today. We're being helped, however, by Lilly, which we'll get to here in a minute. Now, that down day on, I told you, I went back to New York to help ring the bell on the NASDAQ. And I said, I just hope I don't get my bell rung. And instead I got my bell rung. Down 1,000.
SPEAKER 05 :
You rang it on Fed Day, by the way.
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Luckily, we rang the bell to end the pain. I mean, the Dow was down 1,000 and dropping quickly. And ringing that bell did end the pain, so we can say that. But I felt like I got my bell rung when I went back and looked at the carnage and everything like this. I mean, Powell could have been a little bit softer spoken here. given the time of year and everything. But, you know, that's the way it goes. Okay, so the rally fizzled out yesterday.
SPEAKER 05 :
You could argue he's being fiscal responsible, just like the turmoil was caused here. Yeah. In terms of not just, hey, cut, cut, cut, cut, and then next thing you know, we're in the same inflation mess we were to begin with.
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Yes. Well, anyways, the Dow had its longest losing streak, believe it or not, since 1974. Hey, you know what? That goes back to Black Friday and all of that. It had a 10-day losing streak, and yesterday it was up a little. So that did end that losing streak. I was there talking. We were with a group of people there, and I was talking about 2000 and the NASDAQ and the spill that it took and the 79% drop it took. And the guy next to me who had a little grayer hair than I do, I'm just partially gray right now, he said, were you there in 74? I said, no, I wasn't there in 74. He says, how about 69? And I'm going, wow, who do you work? He was one of the institutional. He runs the institutional trading desk for Oppenheimer. And he was an interesting guy to talk about. Some talks with Oppenheimer earlier this year, they wanted to buy out Gundersen Capital Management at one time, but I don't want to be selling Oppenheimer stuff. They said, well, we'll leave you independent. We'll leave you independent. Yeah, you know what? I don't think you will. You'll be breathing down my neck. Ebenezer Powell potentially throws cold water on a Wall Street Santa Claus rally. That's our friend Jerome Powell. They were listing his record on the Fed decision days. It's been the worst in history. He's obviously not very good with words because he's caused a lot of problems. It's not so much the decision. The decision was exactly what we were looking for, right? A quarter point. a cut to interest rates. That's exactly on the money. No problem at all. But it's what he says after the decision. So goodbye punch poll. No Christmas cheer from the Fed. Policymakers see higher inflation and lower unemployment in 2024. There's simply no reason to be dovish given that outlook. So yeah, you still have a strong jobs market. We say that every Thursday when those jobless claims come in. That means there's really no reason to cut interest rates because, you know, the economy is still strong. It's not leaning towards recession. But the market doesn't like it. It has to get off of its addiction to the punch bowl just like the government needs to get off its spending, spending, spending addiction. We'll be right back.
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Thank you.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, Barry, I think there's a lot of optimism that they're going to get something done today back there in Congress. I saw a live video of all of these people arriving, including RFK showing up for the big showdown. The Dow is now up 110 points. The NASDAQ is down just 22 points right now, so you have a lot of optimism that at least they'll get something passed to just get them through and avoid, avert a government shutdown. So they can all go home. There's a lot of pressure on them, too, to get out of town. They've got... The ski vacations planned, et cetera. They want to go home, too.
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Yeah, I was going to say that I think the chances are fairly high of getting something done, even if it's just kicking the proverbial can down the road, simply so they can all get out of town and go do whatever they've got, whatever lavish plans they all have. uh their staffs and you know news people i mean i was looking at the one peeking at bloomberg this morning and they're you know they're ready to get they're ready to go on vacation too so it's like uh they're like hurry this thing up let's get it over with so we'll see what happens i think today's the last day right in terms of their last session day so yes okay so anyways
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They will get something done. And, you know, sometimes when you look at these futures and they're down, they were down like 400 points at one time on the Dow, and the NASDAQ was down 300. You've got to just say, you know, look, this is just part of being in the market. It could have been down that much today. But, you know, you've got to look beyond today and say, look, they're eventually going to get something done. And you can't trade. You know, there's people that react to every little wrinkle. You can't do that. You've got to react as little to as few wrinkles as possible.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and they've got to get something done. Otherwise, I'm sure a lot of them are going to hop on a plane, which I think if they do have a shutdown, you're going to have basically some TSA workers working basically with no pay at the moment. My guess is they may not show up or be as punctual in terms of showing up on time. And so those people who don't get a bill done, they may not be able to get out of D.C. So we'll see, right?
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Okay, well, now we've got, you know, this could be good for the U.S. gas industry. Trump threatens EU with tariffs unless it buys more U.S. oil and gas. Now, we were selling a lot of oil and gas to Europe. during the first Trump administration, and that, you know, went to heck during the Biden administration. In fact, he put a moratorium, no exports of LNG to Europe. Who knows what was behind that, but Trump is threatening them, and the liquor distributors are crying, because of these big tariffs that are about to go on some of these imported European liquors, etc. And, of course, Europe's going to turn around and threaten us with tariffs. That's how the game is played. But he wants them buying more of our product, which is oil and gas. If you're going to shrink the deficit, the... You know, the trade gap between what we buy and what we sell, something that we have an abundance of, we could definitely sell a lot more to try to narrow that trade gap somewhat, would be our energy, our rich energy reserves. Jay Powell, okay, we talked about him. His tenure as Fed chair has seen the weakest performance on decision days. He's not very good at it. Guess what? President Trump and Elizabeth Warren agree on one thing. End the debt ceiling. Well, okay. You know, look, I mean, it's kind of like a line of credit. You can't put a debt ceiling out there right now. I mean, it's going to take some time to get off the sugar high and work things out. You need a little bit of room to move. So I think that's one big thing. I mean, this bill, whatever it is today, has got to get rid of the debt ceiling for now. until they can get things under control, okay? And it will not get passed unless... And, you know, Elizabeth Warren is calling for it, so they ought to be able to agree on that. Now, of course, Elizabeth Warren wanted just an unlimited... Checkbook. Yes. That's my worry.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's like I get, you know, I'm okay with no debt ceiling if the Republicans are in charge, right? I'm not okay with no debt ceiling if it's the other way around.
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Okay. I mean, he needs it to maneuver, okay? He needs it to maneuver. to get this whole ship turned around this this is the u.s enterprise here that we're trying to turn around this has been going on for many many years now the good news is the feds favored inflation gauge the core pce that's also helping the market go positive here now cools slightly in november now i don't think that's going to change i don't think we're going to get a bunch of rate cuts next year i think we'll be lucky to get two we're definitely not going to get one in january there there's no way do you think the fed knew these these pce numbers before i don't know probably but they did come in softer and that's helping the market here this morning Now, the big news here on an individual stock basis is the reaction to Novo Nordisk. We don't own Novo Nordisk. We pulled the plug on NVO. It broke our line in the sand quite a while ago, several months ago. And it's down 19.6%. They're trying to come up with a new and better weight loss drug. And, of course, last week the test proved that Lilly's drug is much more effective to begin with than Wagovi.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was an interesting test, too. Did you see they were shooting for 25% weight loss over however many weeks? Oh, okay. The number I saw I thought was 22, and I'm thinking, well, that's not that far off. Maybe it was.
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I don't know.
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I know they were shooting for 25, but the number I saw was like... Not that far off.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just looked at the market reaction here. It must have been bad results.
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A quarter. That's the equivalent, by the way, the amount that they lost, right? It's a Denmark company. They lost 19% of their body weight today. A quarter.
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They lost a quarter. The value drop is equal to a quarter of Denmark's GDP, by the way. Okay, now on the other side of this trade, Lilly was up about 8% in the pre-market. Now it's up just $33 a share. It's up 4.4%. But it does seem that Lilly has a big, big edge. over Novo Nordisk at this point in time. Now, when I was back on Wall Street and I did my 10-minute interview, I got to find out where it went, and I'll get it up on our website or get it out there on X somewhere. But I was asked by Will Ryan, the CEO of Granite Shares, What was your biggest disappointment this year? And I think I might have said that interest rates remain so high. I thought maybe they'd go down a little more. But I'd have to say my other biggest disappointment is the performance of Lilly. This year, I still believe it's going to be the biggest drug of all time, and I still believe it should replace Pfizer in the Dow. But Lilly has not done well. But there's other good news on Lilly when we come back, and it has to do with the compounders. And then I want to talk about the sell-off in the quantum stocks yesterday. I told you that was hot money. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services... Call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. And we currently have a Dow up 341 points. the seesaw continues ride my seesaw wasn't that a moody blue song it's up 326 points it was down 326 points uh before uh the market so uh anyways uh that's uh good news uh that we've had this turnaround and i think i gave out an optimistic note this morning that they will get it settled which is pretty obvious that they've got to get it settled let's wait I said this morning, I said stock futures are down big this a.m. after the budget proposals, blah, blah, blah. We're just seeing how hard it will be to cut government spending. There will be a lot of pain along the way, yet this is the mandate of the voters. And, you know, I mean, basically I said to myself, there's not much you can do. This is the market panics, and sometimes you have to ride through those panics, and then things work out.
SPEAKER 05 :
I got the Churchill quote in front of me, where Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing once all other possibilities have been exhausted. I guess so.
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Okay. Hims and hers falls as FDA issues unfavorable compounded GLP-1 decision. Well, it took them a long time. I mean, first they declared that the shortage was over of the weight loss drugs. And, you know, that killed all of the compounders. And the compounders got mad and they went to court and said, no, the shortage is not over. And so the FDA said, well, we'll revisit it. That was several months ago. And it just put Lilly into a funk, put Novo into a funk. And, of course, Novo is selling off here this morning. on the latest news, but finally the FDA finally issued the resolution to all of this that there is not a shortage, okay? So now these compounders have a real uphill battle now. I mean, I think they're done. I think you can stick a fork in the compounding drugs that have been knockoffs of Wagovi which is Novo Nordisk and Zetbound.
SPEAKER 05 :
They've got to find a new compound and a new copyright to infringe on, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, let's look at the quantum stocks here. Okay, you know, my favorite, they're rebounding today. There's definitely an opportunity here once again because they sold off heavily. yesterday, or the day the market was down 1,000 points. They were down 38%, 40%. I do see one in the news today, which this happens to be my favorite of all of them, okay? Craig Hallam gives bullish views on Rigetti. And I don't know if I mentioned Rigetti during my interview with my friend there. Oh, man, Rigetti's up 21% today. We've already done one trade in Rigetti, and I don't regret it either. It was a good one. I saw it go up in just a few days. Sometimes that's a gift. Yeah, it was up 29% in the three or four days after we bought it. And I said, you know, that's a gift. You've got to take that. We got in at 7. This is the trading account. This is really high risk, highfalutin. And got out at 9. And I said, I plan on getting back into Rigetti, RGTI. Because I do think there's really something here. I think it's probably one of the best. And now it's back to 9 where we sold it after plunging clear down to 7 yesterday. So anyways, I mean, this quick turnaround in the market. And then I think probably the second best one is D-Wave, which is QBTS. That's my other favorite in those. I don't look at these as investing opportunities right now. I look at them more as, you know, this is more in that hot money area of the market right now. If you're looking for a little action, right, along with your investments, which is 98% of what we do is, 99% of what we do is investing in the market in great companies. But this is kind of the little, you know, the trading account that a lot of people do on their own, do-it-yourselfers especially. NVIDIA reiterated its top pick. by morgan stanley all right invidia uh... right now is up it was making a nice rebound until uh... jerome pal stepped in on thursday on wednesday uh... invidia is up back up to one thirty three that's kinda where it was before the big plunge the next day. It's back up to 133. It still is holding its support line at 132, but it certainly has lost its momentum. It's been gone for several months, really. Morgan Stanley has a price target of 166. I agree with Morgan Stanley. I do believe it will get there. I don't know when, but the valuation certainly would suggest that. Now, AMD, on the other hand, it was tanking. It was breaking support. And I mentioned that one of the negative ETFs that GraniteShares has is short AMD. And that's a great chart on that short AMD stock, the ETF. Today, AMD's up a little bit. However, I do not like AMD. Okay, well, we were asked during our interviews over at the NASDAQ, our highest conviction stocks, UBS is out with theirs. Now, UBS is kind of right in the center of what we talk about, wire house firms buying old school stocks, maybe a little better than most, but here's their highest conviction, 3M. Alaska Air, Amazon, American Tower, Centerpoint Energy, Comfort Systems, yeah, ConocoPhillips, Dell. It's just more of the same, okay? Keurig, Dr. Pepper, MasterCard, Oracle. nothing very creative texas instruments nothing very creative or nothing very exciting that's what you get with the big wall street firms i would say most of them are more centered around the new york stock exchange the nasdaq is definitely more of the innovative the more of the disruptors more of the high growth more of the technology i hang out at the nasdaq myself okay Let's see, we got a good biotech. Yes, I got my picture. I'm going to put that on the newsletter. My picture was literally in Times Square on one of those great big things standing in front of the NASDAQ podium there. And that was kind of cool. That's where I hang out. I'm a disruptor. You know, I'm not old school Wall Street, you know, Procter & Gamble, Kimberly Clark, this and that. No, the innovation has come. The disruptors have come from the NASDAQ. Humacyte up today. This is a biotech. H-U-M-A. They've got a FDA approval of SimVas, an off-the-shelf implantable vascular conduit indicated for arterial injury. Well, okay, that might be a pretty good deal. It's up 59%. I'll keep my eye on that. It's out of North Carolina. Robinhood's competitor, eToro, which we've heard of before, is preparing for their IPO. And, you know, I was talking to actually my stepdaughter. She works for a startup that is pretty big, very well big, got huge clients. They're not quite IPO. And she said they've kind of put off their IPO this year. because of the conditions, but look for them to come public maybe next year. So, you know, there's a lot of companies sitting in the wings, waiting to go public, which then gives the people that are invested in those companies, that own private shares in a private company, which don't have a market except amongst the other shareholders, When they go public, now you've got an event. You've got a liquidity event where you can sell your shares. So anyways, Robinhood's done pretty well. And eToro, that could be a pretty good IPO when it does go public. We always keep our eye on those IPOs. Now, earnings today. I would say the biggest one and the news coming out of there from FedEx is that they're going to split off. They're going to spin off the trucking part of FedEx. FedEx is, let's see how it's doing here after their earnings last night. It is basically flat. Dead flat. Not a stock I have any interest in, but FedEx did report earnings. And going to spin off the trucking part of their company. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show where we're going to take a look inside.
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Wow, look at that. The Dow is up 350.
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The NASDAQ is up 132. We're surging.
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We're up over 1% right now on the day. That's a happy thing. Puts a smile on my face. Let's take a look inside the Dow first, where we have Nike down 1.4%. Oh, Nike, Nike, Nike, Nike. You know, I did notice they have a Hoka store, a big one. Do they really? Yes, in Times Square on Fifth Avenue, which obviously is the retail, the street for retail. Of course, the Nike store has a huge presence there. But Nike has fallen on hard times, down 1.4%, even on a big gain day in the Dow. And over the winters today, Salesforce up 2.2%, which is a dividend payer. Salesforce, Goldman Sachs up 2.2%, NVIDIA up 1.8%. It's also a little bit of a dividend payer. And as we look at the S&P 500 today, where is the fun happening? Where's the fun taking place and where is the pain? There was a lot of pain on Wednesday. Oh, man, those last few hours of the day were just absolutely brutal. The market gets in a bad mood and it panics. And it sells off, and it looks like there's no end to it, and they're going to just get hammered. And eventually, people come to their senses. They say, look, the 15-year bull market's still in effect for now, still churning along. But from time to time, the market throws tantrums. The upside on the Dow, on the S&P today, DEXCOM. You know, Occidental Petroleum, I think maybe Trump put a bottom in the oil stocks with his comments against the EU today, saying, hey, you need to buy more of our oil. That might drive oil prices up. You also have today on the S&P Supermicrocomputer up 4.6%, Occidental up 5%.
SPEAKER 05 :
What's Amazon looking like today? I know I just keep getting these things at the bottom. Three things that keep coming up in terms of risk, right, is number one, the funding bill failing. Number two was thousands of Amazon drivers on strike. And then the third was potato chip recall.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, there's a fourth one. Your package may not arrive by Christmas. That's the fourth one. Amazon is flat. Which is pretty good. Okay, Amazon's flat. Lilly's a big winner in the Dow today, or in the S&P. It's up 4.2. It was up 8 for a while. Broadcom's having a good day. That's actually a very nice chart on Broadcom. I've heard a lot of people commenting. that Broadcom, with that latest earnings report, has really become quite a growth engine once again. We do not currently own Broadcom. We've owned Broadcom in the past.
SPEAKER 05 :
We made some money off of Broadcom. The thing is they heard it called their NVIDIA moment.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it definitely was. Okay, so, you know, I just wanted to lower my exposure to the chip sector, which has been dead in the water. But Broadcom's having a good day. It's not back to where it was. But it is having a good day. Let's check. I'm going to check the granite shares because you get those juiced. What's the top granite shares performer today? It's SMCI Supermicro 2 to 1. That's too hot for me, baby. I can't take that. I don't think I can take that. But the one I do like is Palantir 2 for 1. It's up 4.2% today. I don't have a problem with that one. NVIDIA 2 for 1 is up 3.8% today. CrowdStrike 2 for 1 is up 3.6% today. The worst performer over Granite Shares is two times long Alibaba. I don't want any part of that. I'll go two times short Alibaba, but not two times long. And then they're two times short. NVIDIA is not doing well today, although it had a huge day on Wednesday. I think these are very usable instruments. Now that I've studied them, now that I've spent some time analyzing them, et cetera, there's definitely a lot of usefulness here. in these ETFs from Granite Shares, and they're adding to them all the time. Okay, now let's finish off the week by looking at our friends over at the NASDAQ. I have a long history with the NASDAQ, going back to the late 90s. And I rode that NASDAQ up to 5,300, and then it crashed by 79%. And now it's back over 20,000. What a history there. Some of the great stocks of all time. Today the biggest winner on the NASDAQ is Sirius Satellite. I'm not a fan. I realize that Warren Buffett owns it. I'm not a fan. I think Spotify is the monster in that category. Broadcom is the second biggest winner in the NASDAQ today, up 4%. Expedia is up 2.2%. NVIDIA is up 1.9%. On the downside in the NASDAQ is Vertex Pharmaceutical down 1.8%. The biotechs have definitely been under some pressure here. All right, well, as we end the week, we've just got 11 days left until the end of the trading year. Next week you've got a full day off on Wednesday, obviously, for Christmas, and I think Christmas Eve is probably a half day. Friday's a full day. We're coming down to the wire. It's time for tax planning, really. That's your biggest concerns right now. You want to take advantage if you've got some losses. You want to sell them before the end of the year so that you can use them on your tax returns. You want to be real careful about selling stocks right now with big gains in them because you'll be on the hook. come April for the capital gains taxes, whether or not they be long term or short term. So everything you do between now and the 31st, think about the tax man. And, okay, we still are offering four free weeks. I am having so much fun with the four-free-week trial of the live trading. That's still available to at least the end of the year. You can sign up at GundersonCapital.com. to set up an appointment with us to have us review your plan right now, your trajectory, what you're currently in, what the odds are of you reaching the goals of your plan are. Give us a call at 855-611-BEST to set up an appointment. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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Join Kim Munson for an insightful discussion on the complexities of modern legislation and its impact on everyday citizens. In today's episode, Kim is joined by Alan Thomas to unravel the challenges of navigating government policies and resolutions, emphasizing the balance between freedom and force. Hear compelling stories of inspiration, including a focus on the heroic deeds of Medal of Honor recipients, a true testament to courage and leadership.
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It's great to be here, Kim. Man, if that list truly was as long as it needs to be, we wouldn't even get to the show this morning, would we?
SPEAKER 20 :
I know. Government is way out of its lane right now. And, Alan, what I think is going to happen is, well, we'll talk about the continuing resolution here in a little bit, but I think that... Everyone, in a way, had a sigh of relief that Trump was elected versus the, oh, Biden, Harris, you know, headed towards socialism and communism. But this whole, well, let's talk about it. The continuing resolution, which was the spending bill, and apparently we're right up against the wire again. And if it wasn't passed, they'd shut the government down. And it looked like it was going to pass. You're a little more informed on that.
SPEAKER 02 :
A little bit. But, you know, it's unsurprising, I suppose, that, again, we're up to the wire, right? That seems to be how all these continuing resolutions seem to be. We can't pass a budget in I don't know how many years. Can you remember when the last time we actually passed a budget actually was? I don't. So, you know, it's unsurprising that, again, it's going to be used for political purposes. The surprising part was that Trump kind of crushed the deal at the 11th hour even though him and Johnson had been in communication and had worked out that deal and so we'll see what happens it's always one of those what's the political benefit of it you know and like we said as we were walking in if Trump is wanting to get rid of the debt ceiling as a part of this continuing resolution well I can't see Democrats giving him a blank check and as a pretty principled conservative I don't want that either so I know
SPEAKER 20 :
I know. So I'm very concerned about this. And the government's been shut down before. And as somebody said on one of the shows last night, they shut down on the weekends and they shut down on all the holidays. So we should be able to function, I think.
SPEAKER 02 :
We will function. It's just it's an aspect of is this is this the political fight he wants to be fighting right when he gets into office? Because as soon as he's sworn in, he's going to have this sitting front and center. And was this the best use of his political capital to to have a continuing resolution, a government shutdown while he's being sworn in? Or would have been more politically expedient for him to focus on some of the other things that we that many Americans elected him to do?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, good point. And you're so astute on all that. So we'll continue the discussion on all this. I wanted to get to, first of all, the word of the day. And it is redemption. That's spelled R-E-D-E-M-P-T-I-O-N. And it could be the action of saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil. And they gave an example of God's plans for the redemption of this world. It could be some synonyms are vindication, absolution. And then the last one is the action of regaining or gaining possession of something in exchange for payment or clearing a debt. And so the birth of Christ, Christ came to redeem the world, to give each of us redemption. And so I thought that was a great word of the day.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's an excellent word of the day. And, you know, it's the reason for the season, right? And that's why later we'll be telling some fun Christmas stories about that. And one of them is, oh, holy night and just the beautiful birth of Jesus and why he was sent to the world for all of us.
SPEAKER 20 :
And so we'll feature that in segments three and four. Since it is Friday, this is when we take a quote from the Medal of Honor quote book that has been created by the Center for American Values. And be sure and check out the Center for American Values. They are located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And they honor our Medal of Honor recipients and then these great educational programs to really put forth these foundational values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. But our quote for today is from David H. McNerney and the United States Army Medal of Honor. He was born in 1931. He died in 2010. These were actions taken on 22 March 1967. It says, First Sergeant McNerney distinguished himself with his unit when his unit was attacked by a North Vietnamese battalion near Polai Doc. Running through the hail of enemy fire to the area of heaviest contact, he was assisting in the development of a defensive perimeter when he encountered several enemy at close range. He killed the enemy but was painfully injured when blown from his feet by a grenade. In spite of this injury, he assaulted and destroyed an enemy machine gun position that had pinned down five of his comrades beyond the defensive line. Upon learning his commander and artillery forward observer had been killed, he assumed command of the company. He adjusted artillery fire to within 20 meters of the position in a daring measure to repulse enemy assaults. When the smoke grenades used to mark the position were gone, he moved into a nearby clearing to designate the location to friendly aircraft. In spite of enemy fire, he remained exposed until he was certain the position was spotted and then climbed into a tree and tied the identification panel to its highest branches. now and he's injured remember that oh my gosh okay then he moved among his men readjusting their position encouraging the defenders and checking the wounded as the hostile assaults slackened he began clearing a helicopter landing site to evacuate the wounded When explosives were needed to remove large trees, he crawled outside the relative safety of his perimeter to collect demolition material from abandoned rucksacks. Moving through a fusillade of fire, he returned with the explosives that were vital to clearing the landing zone. Disregarding the pain of his injury and refusing medical evacuation, First Sergeant McNerney remained with his unit until the next day when the new commander arrived. First Sergeant McNerney's outstanding heroism and leadership were inspirational to his comrades. His actions were in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Army and reflect great credit upon himself and the armed forces of this country.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't know what else.
SPEAKER 02 :
It borders on the unbelievable if people didn't see it. Truly what all of these Medal of Honor recipients have is just you could truly make a Hollywood movie out of it, every single one of them.
SPEAKER 20 :
And you would say that's impossible. And it's amazing. So, again, oh, I didn't even give his quote. Hey, Joe, you're supposed to help me remember to do that, you know, because I get into these stories and I forget.
SPEAKER 18 :
My bad. Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
So this is what he said. The most important possession you have is your name. Never dishonor it. And that's David H. McNerney. And let's see. Let's go ahead and let's go to break because when we come back, I've got some interesting this day in history because it was during this time the Battle of the Bulge is being fought. and during in world war ii and we have these discussions because of our sponsors and the roger mangan state farm insurance team is a great sponsor of the show and give them a call and make a an appointment it's complimentary and go through your insurance coverage so that you're sure that you know what you have and that you have exactly what you want so give them a call at 303-795-8855 like a good neighbor the roger mangan team is there
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SPEAKER 03 :
It's right.
SPEAKER 20 :
Indeed, it is Friday and welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for a weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I had mentioned the Center for American Values because we had shared this quote from Medal of Honor recipient David McNerney. But make sure that you check out their website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And also wanted to mention Hooters Restaurants. We're getting into the bowl games. It's a great place to get together. They'll have all the games there and they've got great specials for lunch and happy hour, Monday through Friday. And so be sure and check that out. And Alan Thomas, you're in studio here and you're probably getting pretty excited about all these bowl games, yes?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, my team isn't in it, but it'll be pretty exciting. It's a new playoff format. So we'll see how that all works out.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, it is? Oh, is that where they have the national?
SPEAKER 02 :
There's 12 teams in it now. So it's a whole bracket now for college football. So we got a lot of games now through January 20th, I believe, is the national championship game.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, really? Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
And then what? The Super Bowl then is in February. Is that right?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think so. Yeah. OK, so there'll be a lot of football between now and now in the beginning of the year for sure.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, you want to watch that all at Hooters restaurants. So be sure and check that out again. Five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster and Colorado Springs. Let's get over here to this day in history. I found this kind of interesting. 1192, Richard the Lionhearted captured near Vienna by Leopold of Austria on his way home from the Third Crusade. He was released two years later. I don't know all that history. Do you know that?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I haven't really studied that part. No, that's interesting. I mean, that's Robin Hood, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
I think so.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, and you did that great piece about that great essay regarding.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, the sheriff in Nottingham.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, which was who Michael Johnston wanted to be. So great. So check that out at my website as well. This now I was in the clothing business for many, many years, the ladies clothing business. And there were things and innovations that changed things. Textile manufacturing is so fascinating, what they've been able to do with different textiles. But this is something that really changed things for women in 1790. The first successful U.S. cotton mill began spinning yarn in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, built by Samuel Slater based on Richard Arkwright's design. All these innovations started to change things. Because in those days, everyday people didn't have very many clothes. I actually do have a lot of clothes because I was in that business. But regular people didn't. And so these were the things that started to change all that. So creativity and innovation, 1803. The French flag is lowered in New Orleans to mark the formal transfer of the Louisiana purchase from France to the USA. Purchase for, do you know how much?
SPEAKER 02 :
Pennies on the dollar, that's for sure.
SPEAKER 20 :
$15 million. Huh. This is interesting. 1820, Missouri imposes a $1 bachelor tax on unmarried men aged between 21 and 50. Huh. Huh. Is that the proper role of government?
SPEAKER 02 :
Probably not, but it's definitely true that women make single men better. That's true.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's true. Although some of these millennial women that we see on television.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's tough out there, and I know several single men in that age range, and I hear the stories and the entitlement and just everything. It shocks me. It makes me very, very happy to have the most wonderful wife in the world.
SPEAKER 20 :
And yes, she is. Okay, 1879, Thomas Edison privately demonstrated the, again, creativity, innovation. 1919, U.S. House of Representatives restricts immigration laws. You think that maybe we might, the Biden-Harris administration might have learned something from that. 1924, this is the, you know, the left, they never sleep. They never give up. Adolf Hitler was, in 1924, was freed from jail early, having served only nine months of his five-year sentence for his beer hall putsch, P-U-T-S-C-H.
SPEAKER 1 :
1924. 1924.
SPEAKER 20 :
So then we fast forward into World War II. 1941, Japanese troops land on Mindano, Philippines. Now just think about the time frame. December 7th, 1941, Hawaii is bombed, and here they are now invading the Philippines. So they were planning on this. 1941, World War II, the first battle of the American Volunteer Group, better known as the Flying Tigers in Kunming, China. And then this story, 1944, this is so famous, the Battle of Bastogne. The Nazis have surrounded the 101st Airborne. And the Battle of the Bulge began on December 16th. And although outnumbered, the regiments of the 28th Infantry Division delayed the German advance towards Bastogne. allowing American units, including the 101st Airborne Division, to reach Bastogne before the German forces surrounded the town and isolated it on 20 December. Until 23 December, the weather prevented Allied aircraft from attempting to resupply Bastogne or from performing ground attack missions against German forces. The siege was lifted on 26 December when a spearhead of the 4th Armored Division and other elements of General George Patton's 3rd Army opened a corridor to Bastogne. And the Americans prayed for clear skies, and they finally got it. But this is the famous story. It says General Anthony Clement McAuliffe was born in 1898, died in 1975, was a senior United States Army officer who earned fame as the acting commander— of the 101st Airborne defending Bastogne, Belgium, during the Battle of the Bulge. So they're surrounded. And apparently the Germans send two Germans in with a white flag because they are going to ask for the Americans' surrender. And when... He was given the request. He said, nuts. And then they're talking. He says, well, how should we respond? And one of his guys under his command said, I think you said it. And so they wrote down nuts, sent it back, and they did not surrender. And the rest is history.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's amazing and truly American when you think about it in every way.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is. It is. So just there were three other things I found interesting. 1946, the Christmas classic It's a Wonderful Life premieres in New York. 1956, Montgomery, Alabama removes race based seat assignments on its buses. 1990, the world's first website and server go live at CERN, C-E-R-N. And in 2019, the United States Space Force was founded, an armed forces branch dedicated to space warfare. I think that's super interesting stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, this is a super interesting day in history for sure.
SPEAKER 20 :
I know. And I do this, Alan, because I think it's important that we understand, just think about all these different things that have come before us so that we can then maybe get hard from that as we look into the future. Sure.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, they always say, if you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it, right? Because history definitely echoes throughout the generations. And we aren't here just randomly, right? There was lots of people that made decisions well before us that have shaped our lives and what we do.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and when I say that we were made for this moment, we're in such an interesting time in history. And I did an interview with Marley Hornig, one of the co-founders of United Sovereign Americans that we broadcast next week. And they've really been in this fight regarding making sure that our elections are free, fair, honest, and transparent. And I said, I really think that we are in the third founding of our country. And that's why it is so historical here. We're in this battle of ideas on what will America, as she was founded with these rights from God of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, that we're all created equal, is that going to continue? or not. And it's up to us. And so that's why the great work that you're doing with all these essays and us kicking the tires on these ideas and helping all of our listeners get their brains around it so that they can engage in this battle of ideas is so important, Alan.
SPEAKER 02 :
It really is. And, you know, it's kind of interesting looking at our founding about the different, you know, you say the third founding. You know, the first one was what type of government are we even going to have and what should that look like? There was a lot of debate between should the states be sovereign or should we have separate confederacies that just kind of get along similar to like the European model, right? And so we solve that question. But they really punted the slavery question to later. Right. I mean, it was a it was a huge contentious deal. And and they really punted it at the time because they saw the need to be one country before Britain wanted to come back, which they didn't. did in 1812 and and luckily we we fended them off again so we had that second founding that abraham lincoln was really a part of and it's it's kind of interesting you know dr tom cranwitter really argues that uh progressivism started with that civil war it was people looking around saying hey this isn't right this is so much death destruction um maybe this founding um Maybe this idea of the American Constitution and Declaration isn't a good idea. And so that progressivism has been creeping into our society since that really second founding of Abraham Lincoln. And we are now full-blown in this war of ideas against this progressive model and this idea of is there even truth? What is it? And what is the proper role of government? And it's really critical because for... For a while, we've kind of allowed this brilliant idea of the Declaration to just sit there and say, well, obviously people can see it. Obviously, it's a good idea. And we haven't really fought for it the proper way. And I think people are really beginning to see the effects that progressivism in our culture really has. And it's very detrimental.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is very detrimental, and I'm very encouraged, but it is a real battle of ideas. And with the election of Donald Trump, I think people breathed a sigh of relief that perhaps this progressive march towards socialism and communism has at least been stopped. You and I are both, I think, a little frustrated to hear that this debt is not sustainable. We talk about sustainability all the time. This is not sustainable. And no debt ceiling. I certainly am concerned about it. But what I think is going to happen is Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, J.D. Vance, Donald Trump, there's a lot of focus on the federal government. The progressive communism socialism model, they are going to double down at the local, at the county, and the state level. And so I want to give you an example. We didn't get to talk about this, and Lakewood was first, and now Denver City Council. It says Denver City Council, this is from the Denver Post, could join Lakewood in clamping down on gas stations in 2025 despite industry pushback. One of the great things about everyday people is their freedom of mobility, to be able to go where they want to, when they want to. With freedom of mobility, you have more employment options, but the progressives want us to live in apartments and ride around on trains and buses and walk, and they don't want us to have freedom of mobility. And the internal combustion engine offers that. And so here you have Lakewood, they said that we're not going to have any new gas stations in Lakewood. Now Denver is saying the same thing. So you see this, this is going to happen at the local level. So we've got a lot of work to do, Alan.
SPEAKER 02 :
And they really tipped their hat a while ago, didn't they? I mean, when we talked about the Soros-funded DAs all throughout the country, I mean, they have seen that this local politics really has a lot of control. And that's by design, right? Our country was designed for the federal government to be very inefficient. And fortunately for us, it for the most part still even is, as we've seen with this continuing resolution. It's very inefficient. It's very difficult to get enough votes to push legislation through, even when you're in a majority. So they've been going after this local level for a while. And it's time that we wise up as well and really start pushing back because the founders wanted to give that control locally. They wanted to say, hey, you know, you're in charge of your neighborhood. You're in charge of your street. You're in charge of your state. So don't mess it up.
SPEAKER 20 :
So quick question for you, Alan. So when I was on city council, we talk about local control. And in the Constitution, it says that whatever is not given to the federal government, it goes to the states but to the people. But there was – well, it's the whole Hooters story. And that is where PBIs were deciding which businesses – They wanted in which they didn't. That's not the proper role of government. But I had pushback with people saying, if we don't want X business in our city, then we shouldn't have to have that. And I said, wait a minute. Every business, legitimate business, must be treated impartially and equally. You can't, if we look at the vision of the declaration, government can't be picking winners and losers. So you can't do it at the federal level, but Alan, I think that even at the local level, if you have control, but you still have to adhere to this vision of the declaration, there are people that push back on that with me.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and that's the brilliance of what they did, right, is you could have that virtue locally if you wanted. The fact that you could have you could say, hey, we don't want a strip club in our neighborhood is a perfectly valid local concern as long as. Locally, you all agree with it, right? But nationally, that's not what you want to do. But you do, as you said, you do run the risk of, hey, if you push X business out of here, then there's economic consequences and other municipalities, other states, other counties will be able to look and say, hey, was that good? Did that actually work out for them? Is that what they want to do? And we're seeing it with marijuana, aren't we? Like we're seeing that locally, there are a lot of states and municipalities that are saying, hey, we want this here. We want to do this. So we're going to allow that freedom. And now we're seeing a lot of the consequences of that action. And we're able to look and see. And, you know, a lot like Texas, Missouri, Mississippi, they're able to say, hey, is what Colorado and Washington did, is that good for their state? You know, has that been a net positive for them? Is that freedom actually a good thing? And they're able to adjust their thinking about these sorts of controls based on what they see from others. So it's it's a good thing to have that experimentation. And it's a good thing for people to be able to control their neighborhood now. Of course, your point is, where does it get out of control? And that's always going to be the question locally is, at what point are we giving our local governments too much control over our lives? And that's always something we need to be willing and able to push back on. which has become difficult in the progressive state because they've got so much power that they can pick winners and losers, even if it's a Hooters or even if it's a Christian-based organization. Now they're starting to really use that power and go a little wild with it.
SPEAKER 20 :
So, and that's why I took the stand. And regarding Hooters restaurants, the whole thing was whether or not they, and again, I don't think this is necessarily the proper role of government, but to issue a liquor license. The location had been a restaurant. It had liquor license, you know, a zone for a restaurant. So there was no reason to not issue that particular liquor license because I was concerned. This was pre-COVID. What happens if you start to have government determine which businesses are essential and which aren't? And so realizing you've got to stand for freedom. You just have to stand for freedom. Then you fast forward into COVID and you had government choosing which businesses were essential and which aren't. And so we've got to stand for freedom. And so that's the stand I took.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and if I could maybe help clarify that just a little bit, you are wanting everyone to play by the same rules, right? If a legitimate business applied for a liquor license, why should we get to pick and choose which ordinance applies where? And that's a very fair rule of law stance to take to say, hey, why do you get to say this business is good and this business is legitimate, but not that one? Like if we're going to have economic parity, we should be able to apply the rules to everybody and we should all be playing by the same game. And that's not fair to take one rule and say, hey, this one, yeah, technically you're playing by the game the right way, but we just don't like you. So we're going to penalize you for it. And that's the problem that you saw with this Hooters restaurant. And that's why it was important for you to take that stand was saying, hey, there's nothing illegitimate about this business. We got to let them play by the same rules.
SPEAKER 20 :
Exactly. Well said. Well said. And these are such important discussions, and I want to talk about these Christmas stories, but I do want to address one other thing that you mentioned. So we're going to go to break. I'm talking with Alan Thomas, and we will be rolling out your essay this weekend in beautiful Christmas stories, right? That's going to be that. And all this happens because of our sponsors. For everything residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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SPEAKER 20 :
It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for a weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And check out the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation's website, U.S. MC Memorial Foundation dot org. and make a contribution before the end of the year. And it's so important to honor those that have given their lives, been willing to give their lives, and a great way to do that is to contribute to the USMC Memorial Foundation. Alan Thomas is in studio, and we're gonna get to these beautiful Christmas stories, but I have these other things that I just have to run by you. You mentioned strip clubs in a community. And it has gone all the way to the Supreme Court that municipalities cannot outlaw strip clubs. It's a freedom of speech issue was the decision. But so what happens is each municipality has to have a zoning where they can have adult-orientated businesses. I think that's what it's called. Oh, gosh. Anyways, it's adult kind of businesses. And so every particular city has to have some place zoned for that. And so that way they are not going against the Supreme Court. so every city has that uh lone tree has that and um so there's this sexual it's called sexually orientated businesses is what it's called and so now and and i've actually reached out to the county commissioners on this is when we have had these drag queen shows at libraries or the county fairgrounds or at the rec centers, there's been this threat of lawsuit and so many of these elected representatives cave because they're afraid of a lawsuit and they go ahead and let these sexually orientated drag queen performances go on. And I said, listen, I don't think that the Douglas County Fairgrounds is zoned as a sexually orientated business. And I think that you could say no to these drag queen shows under that. And I have not had one elected representative bite on that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Hmm. I mean, the threat of lawsuit and the threat of all of this is part of the problem, right? They're very scared of that. And there's also, to be honest, Colorado's difficult right now. I mean, there's the very real problem of them being worried they're not going to get reelected and that there might not be community support behind it. So that's why it's important to talk to your elected representative and voice those very same concerns. That way they know that there's support for these sorts of issues. Yeah. It reminds me of this story, too, by this—and I forget the particulars of where or when, but there was a church that was really trying to make a difference in their community. And this is the role that we as Christians can play using the free market. And they had this whole section of this city that was very known for— sexually oriented crimes, strip clubs, things like that. And what the elders decided to do was to buy the building. Now the problem was the building owner had a pre-existing lease with these strip clubs for several years. So they, by law, were required to own the building where these strip clubs were. And the church elders got a lot of flack for this, but they said, trust us, we have a plan. And as soon as the lease was up, they non-renewed their lease and turned that whole neighborhood around because they were willing to have the bravery to own a strip club in their building for several years, knowing that, Once their lease was up, they were going to change the purpose of that property. So it was kind of an interesting story about how we can use freedom still as Christians to change neighborhoods as long as we know that we have a longer term goal. And so it's just kind of a beautiful story about how to change a neighborhood and change a neighborhood's virtue legally and using the freedom principles.
SPEAKER 20 :
And the other thing is, is they honored the contract. And contract is a very important thing on the American idea as well. So that's super interesting. Two other things that I wanted to mention to you regarding local government, where I said that I'm concerned. This is where the fight's going to be, my friends. And it's actually more difficult because there's the study sessions and there's the meetings and they have all these different commissions. But this is from the Washington Post. A California campaign manager said, is arrested and charged as a Chinese agent. And this was a campaign manager for a local office. So, you know, hold on there. And then this also. The Denver School Board – this is from the Denver Post. The Denver School Board is set to decide Thursday whether to further restrict the public's ability – to comment in front of the board by reducing the time that individuals, speakers can address the elected directors who govern Colorado's largest school district and in which the taxpayer just gave them a whole bunch more money.
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, we've seen our own issues in Douglas County with our commissioners to restricting public access to speak to them, too. And it's it's a serious problem. And it's it's one we need to highlight because the voters of those districts need to vote them out and say, if you do this, sayonara.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. And so, yeah, local. So we're going to I want to start something called Doge Colorado, Doge Douglas County, Doge Lone Tree. I want to work on all that. So there's so many things to do in this next year. Let's go to break just a little early so that we can come back and talk about your great Christmas or your beautiful Christmas stories. All this happens because of our sponsors and a great source of protein. And also for that steakhouse experience at home. Check out Lavaca Meat Company.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Alan Thomas is in studio, author at The Kim Munson Show. And I can't believe that it's December 20th, tomorrow's the shortest day of the year. Christmas is right around the corner. You've got some beautiful Christmas stories that we'll highlight in your essay, but where do you want to start?
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Well, you know, I just want to start. It's pretty awesome having a four-year-old right now in Christmas, getting to see the excitement and just the joy and the magic of it all. And, you know, sometimes it's easy when you get a little bit older to lose some of that joy, that passion, that beautiful aspect of Christmas. And We were in our church and our church is doing a series on Christmas songs. And the singers got up and they were telling this story about O Holy Night. And it's one of my wife's favorites. Every time we sing it, she always starts crying. It's a beautiful song. And they kind of in a passing comment said it actually has an anti-abolish effect. abolitionist, uh, verse in it. And it, it just sparked me. And I was like, wow, you know, Christianity is so beautiful. Freedom is so brilliant. And I wanted to kind of pass that along. That really inspired me to, to find some of these beautiful Christmas stories and maybe pass them along and, and reignite some of that joy and beauty of the season. So, um, O Holy Night, it's kind of got a very interesting past. It was actually a French song originally, and it was written by a part-time poet in France. I'm going to mess up his name, but it's Placide Capot. And he actually had connections to a pretty famous composer named Adolph Adams, who came up with the song and made the poem more into lyrics. Now, when you read the direct French translation, there's a lot of theological issues. Like, France and the Catholic Church did not like that version of the song. But in 1855, a Unitarian minister named John Dwight heard the song, thought it was beautiful, and took very liberal use of translating it into American, which is how we actually ended up with a pretty beautiful song. Luckily, a little bit more theologically consistent. But where him and this part-time French poet both agreed was in the third verse when, you know, 1855, we're talking about abolition around that time, especially here in our country. And this is how the third verse goes. Truly he taught us to love one another. His law is love and his gospel is peace. Chains shall he break for the slave is our brother and in his name all oppression shall cease. Sweet hymns of joy and grateful chorus raise we. Let all within us praise his holy name. And I just thought that was beautiful. You know, the fact that we as Christians know that everyone is created in God's image. And certainly while there were those that were not portraying Christ truly and used the Bible to justify slavery, really there was a strong Christian element to say, hey, this isn't right. You know, this isn't right to hold people in chains. We are all made in God's image. We all deserve to be free. And I just thought that was a beautiful verse. And a lot of times when we hear the song, very rarely do you get to hear that for the later verses. And that's just I don't know. I just I thought it was beautiful.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. And again, going back to get this history on the song, bring will bring even more meaning as we hear that this this Christmas season. What's the next song?
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So the next one is actually a story that probably everybody knows about, but a true underdog story in Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. So it has also a very interesting story, but more important than this story about this reindeer that has a defect and a red nose that lights up, is actually the story behind it. And actually in this corporate America, it's quite beautiful actually. So there was this company called the Montgomery Ward Company. It was very successful. And one of the things they did every year was give out coloring books to the tune of well over a million coloring books to all their guests. Well, that got quite expensive because they were actually buying them and then giving them out for free. So what they decided to do is, hey, why can't we do something ourselves? It'll be a little bit cheaper. We'll do it in-house, save a little bit of money, but still continue this tradition of giving our guests something. Well, there's this gentleman called Robert L. May. He was a copywriter. but he had aspirations of being a writer. And so kind of down on his luck, not exactly what he saw doing his whole life, but he came up with limericks and he was good at writing little children's stuff. And so they said, Hey, you're pretty good at what you do. Do you want to take a stab at creating a Christmas story or something for us to do this Christmas? And so he jumped into it full time. And ironically, he also had a four-year-old at the time and he, uh, He used his life story and really the story of the ugly duckling to create this underdog triumphing through Rudolph. And he, you know, it's a limerick, so it kind of rhymes. And so he worked with it very closely with his four-year-old daughter until he really liked it. And he brought it to his boss, and his boss said, I'm not too sure. I'm not sure this is quite the vision that we had. Well... Robert May was pretty convinced that he had something. He created something beautiful. So he has a story. He has this story. He's created this Rudolph story for the Montgomery Ward Company for their Christmas promotion. And his boss initially says, he reads the story and he goes, I'm not so sure.
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So were they going to create a storybook or something that they were going to give out?
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Right. That was the idea because they were giving out coloring books. So they wanted something similar to do. So he went to his art department and found somebody there and said, hey, come with me to the zoo. I need sketches for this story. And I just believe in it so much. Let's figure this out. So he gets his art department to go get some sketches together, brings it to his boss. His boss says. Okay, I think I see what you're going with here. The sketches kind of completed the story for him. And that year they printed 2.4 million copies of the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. And it was wildly successful. So this is around... By 1946, they had printed six million copies of the book, which is really important because there were actually paper shortages because of the war at that time. So six million copies is incredible, right? Well, Montgomery Ward owned the rights to the story completely. It was an in-house produced story. And since the time he wrote the story to 1946, May tragically was widowed and strapped with a lot of medical debt because his wife had a terminal illness. So he was really, really down on his luck. And that's when he approached the CEO, Sewell Avery, and he said, listen, can Can I just get something? You know, I created this story. It's wildly popular. I know I don't deserve it. Like, obviously you own the rights, but can I just get a small fraction of the profits? And something we don't see often in corporate America, the CEO, again, Sewell Avery, can't say his name enough because this is so beautiful. He signed the rights to the story over free of charge and completely to Robert L. May. But the story gets even better. So Robert May takes the rights to this story. He then markets it. It's now the second most popular song that's behind White Christmas. His brother-in-law actually was the first one to sing it and make it popular. So for the next seven years, he kind of took the business, quote unquote, if you will, of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and made it very profitable. turned his life around, absolutely took that gift that the Montgomery Ward CEO gave him and changed his life. But in a true act of loyalty, after seven years, once he figured out that this story was going to kind of run all by itself, he actually returned to work for Montgomery Ward as a copywriter for 13 more years. Just because he saw that loyalty they gave him and he wanted to return it in kind. And so just just kind of a beautiful story there about some Christmas cheer, if you will.
SPEAKER 20 :
I never knew that. That's that's amazing. And of course, then the movie that we watch every year as well. That's amazing. OK, just a teaser for the last one then.
SPEAKER 02 :
A teaser for the last one. So this one was actually in World War I, so probably a little bit more known than the other two. Again, shows the just brilliance and the humanity that music can have with us. And this story is so unbelievable that actually many questioned its authenticity even today, but there's pictures of it. Around Christmas, that first year, 1914, everybody kind of believed this war was going to go quickly, right? They believed they'd be over. They believed, actually, many believed they'd be back by Christmas. But at the front lines, there was trenches, and there's this area called No Man's Land, right, where you don't want to stand up in the trenches. You're going to get hit by a bullet. These two warring sides, the British and the French, across the line is the Germans, and it's Christmas Eve. And the Germans had a couple of Christmas trees up along the front lines just because they're in the Christmas spirit. They're away from their family. They're feeling the longing. And both sides are pretty bummed that they have to be there when across the lines, the German side start singing Silent Night. And the British side hears this, and they start to join in. And both sides start caroling. And eventually, they start shouting at each other. And one side says, hey, tomorrow, if you don't shoot, I won't shoot. And what became, it was a very informal truce. The very next day, the German side and the British side met in No Man's Land for Christmas. Now, this wasn't across the whole front line. There were obviously parts that still were warring. But for a small moment, I don't think we've ever seen it since, in the middle of a war, an informal truce happened on Christmas of 1914 just because both sides got to singing and got inspired by the spirit of Christmas. So... A pretty beautiful story there as well. Just, you know, when you see the humanity in the other side, when you can see them as people, it can change your whole world. And, you know, obviously they fought the day before. The day after Christmas, all the high command came in and said, no more of this. We need to get back to what we're doing. No more peace. No more truces. There'll be no fraternizing with the enemy. But for one day they came together and played soccer. or football, if you will, at that part of the world and came together for Christmas and had a truce during Christmas of 1914.
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Well, be sure and check out our website and be sure you're signed up for our weekly newsletter because we'll publish that piece this Sunday. Ellen Thomas, thank you so much. And I know you're going to stay for the next hour, but Merry Christmas to you and yours. Merry Christmas to you as well. And our quote for the end of the show is the quote from General Anthony Clement McAuliffe when he was presented with the request by the Germans in World War II to surrender. Nuts. So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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It's the Kim Munson Show. Analyzing the most important stories.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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I don't think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can't understand that.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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indeed let's have a conversation welcome to our number two of the kim munson show thank you so much for joining us you're each treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy friday producer joe happy friday kim we have been working like maniacs uh pre-recording for christmas week amazing interviews amazing guests so be sure and check that out next week and um we search for truth and clarity uh as looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to use force to implement it and on the show we focus on the issues not the personalities now we will talk about the people that are pushing forward issues. But we're trying to stay out of the eighth grade girl fighting, which I didn't like eighth grade that much back then, and I don't like it that much now. And so I try to stay out of that. In studio with me is Alan Thomas, and we'll be rolling out your piece, Beautiful Christmas Stories, this weekend. So it's great to have you here for the second hour.
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It's always great being here.
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And Kurt Gerwitz is in studio as well. Professor Gerwitz, great to have you. We'll be talking about Doge and different agencies. So this is going to be interesting.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm looking forward to it, Kim.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely. So great to have you guys here. And Alan, I think you and I both agree. We really don't like the eighth grade girl fighting. But man, politics is the epitome. And we have guys that act like eighth grade girls.
SPEAKER 02 :
We have politics is pretty much just, you know, eighth grade and not just girls. I mean, eighth grade was not a fun time for me either. There was a lot of restrictions on the playground and bullies, really, you know, and the easiest way to do that is drag somebody's name through the mud.
SPEAKER 20 :
yeah yeah yeah i know that's what they do in politics what is it a politics or the word politics comes from uh the two uh well two different parts the first is poly meaning many and the other is ticks which is a blood-sucking insect so okay gentlemen um let's get into it here first of all i want to say thank you to laramie energy For their goal sponsorship of the show, it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources from oil, gas, natural gas, coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. Our word of the day is redemption. And I chose that because Christmas is here and Christ came to redeem the world. And so the word is redemption, R-E-D-E-M-P-T-I-O-N. It is a noun. It could be the action or saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil, as in God's plans for the redemption of his world. And the other is the action of regaining or gaining possession of something in exchange for payment or clearing a debt. And so your challenge is to use the word of the day in a sentence today. And again, that word is redemption, R-E-D-E-M-P-T-I-O-N. Our quote of the day since it's Friday, I go to the Medal of Honor quote book that's been published by the Center for American Values, and the center is located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there were four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. And do check out the center, and I'd really recommend you take the children down there sometime over Christmas break to Pueblo. Go to the center, and then there's great restaurants around there as well. but this is the quote from david h mcnerney he was born in 1931 died in 2010 these are actions that he took on 22 march 1967 and he said the most important possession you have is your name never dishonor it my father said that all the time to me as well and again the most important possession you have is your name never dishonor it and uh Let's see here. We went through this day in history in the first hour. We talked about the Denver City Council is... considering preventing new gas stations joining Lakewood. And so this is part of this whole Green New Deal, if you will, and that is to take away our options to be able to drive gas-powered vehicles. They want to make it more and more inconvenient. And, Alan, I mentioned it, and we talked about it in the first hour, is – There seems to be a relief that Donald Trump has been elected, hopefully to thwart this movement on the federal level towards progressivism, socialism, communism, that was the focus of the O'Biden-Harris administration. But we're going to see then things doubling down at the local, the county, and the state level. So with Denver and with Lakewood saying they're not going to have new gas stations, you can see that they're pushing that agenda, Alan.
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They are, and we'll have to be very strict. It was great that Trump got elected, but this isn't going to turn around in four years. We have to take a much more long-term approach towards renewing the proper role of government. So this was a great election, but also there's only so much you can do in four years, and political time moves rather slowly as well.
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We've got a lot, a lot, a lot of work to do.
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We do.
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Hey, good morning, everybody. And, Ellen, good morning to you, and happy holidays to everyone. I don't know your other guests, but I've written a holiday poem, and I'd just like to say a quick couple of things about Lavaca Meat. If there's still time, if you've got that somebody you can't figure out or whatever, you can come by the store. There is $5 parking back, a lot of parking back behind the store, which I think it's Rinky Brothers. But, yeah, come on in. Jerry will take care of you, and maybe you can make somebody's Christmas Day better with a good piece of Lavaca meat.
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Well, and it really would be a great gift and a real treat for employees or friends or family. And so I would highly recommend it. So definitely. So Jim May, you've got a poem for us.
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I've got a holiday poem here. And I just wanted to say the experience of doing this has caused me to write more. Obviously, I used to just write for my family and little events and stuff like that. And this has been a lot of fun for me. And I've grown a lot. And as I wrote this, I started thinking, you know, Jim, you're not just talking to You know, Christians at Christmastime, there's Hanukkah and everything out there, Kwanzaa. And so I wrote this to be for all people today and maybe extend through the new year. The name of this poem is just Happy Holidays. It's finally Friday, and it's really hard to believe that in just a few short days it will be Christmas Eve. The Colorado Rockies are white with winter snow. It looks a lot like Christmas from the KLZ studio. I really like the front range view from the Kim Munson show. A big picture window, an American flag. And there's producer Joe. I've been lucky to be a part of it and say what I want to say. Free speech is what it's all about. It's the American way. I hope that you have enjoyed the cowboy poetry this year. It's a chance to share my thoughts and spread a little cheer. Most importantly, the work Ben here just means a lot to me. Thanks for supporting Lavaca Mead, and many thanks to KLV. This season sometimes makes you feel like you are a kid again, remembering Christmas past and let them come alive again. There are times you would like to hope the season never ends, sharing joy, love, and quality time with family and friends. And so I want to thank you all for your kind words this year. The phone calls, texts, the little things are just so nice to hear. I'm just a Colorado cowboy who would really like to say blessings of peace, joy, and love to you. And have a happy holiday.
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Jim May, that's beautiful.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you. I really mean that from the bottom of my heart. I hope everybody out there, no matter right, left, Woman, man, whatever race, it doesn't matter to me. And I just hope you all have a great holiday and a wonderful new year. I think we've got a new sheriff in town, and I think things are going to start to improve. And I really enjoy listening to Ellen's stories. They're about Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and all that stuff. That was cool. And just keep that spirit going and come by and see us at Lavaca Meat.
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And Lavaca Meat is located at the corner of Nevada and Maine. And of course, Old Littleton is so beautiful this time of year, Jim May. I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas, prosperous 2025. And I thank you for sharing these fabulous poems with us. It's a great, it just really adds something to Friday, I think.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, right back at you, Kim. And I hope you all have a wonderful, not only Christmas, but the upcoming. That's a nice thing. We've still got one more holiday after that. So let's keep having fun.
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Indeed, it is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources from coal, natural gas, and oil that helps power our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. So pleased to have in the studio with me Professor Kurt Gerwitz. It's great to have you. It's good to be here. And Alan Thomas has stayed for the second hour as well. And so DOJ, that's the Department of Government Efficiency. And Donald Trump has put Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy in charge of that. And first of all, apparently Elon Musk was very influential in making sure that the 1,500-page document uh, continuing resolution, uh, which, uh, did not pass. And so one of our listeners, thank you. Uh, Connie said that Mike Johnson dumped a 1500 page, uh, CR omnibus full of pork. It did not pass. I think that's good. Then president Trump's team came up with a continuing resolution that would help hurricane victims, farmers, and keep the government open. It did not pass. I think that's unfortunate. I think it's crazyville, uh, kurt gerwitz that here we are a few days before they needed to have something done they've been messing around in washington dc they don't have a budget and now they say hey if you don't do this that we're going to shut down the government what do you think about that
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It's human nature to wait for a deadline. One of the teaching gigs I had was teaching negotiations, and it was an amazing experience. We would split people into twos, buyers and sellers, and we'd pair them up, and then we'd say at the end, you had your sheet, each side had their sheet, and we're prepared, and then you'd go and see if you could come to a deal or not. And we bring everybody back into the room and say, is there anyone who could have used more time? And more than half the room raises their hand, right? And you could also ask, like, when did the deal get done? It's like last minute, right? It's human nature. And so the teachable moment was so classic. It was... why didn't you ask for it this is a negotiation class you could have asked me the facilitator hey can we have five more minutes and we would have given it to you maybe maybe not but you you'll never get it without asking for one right and so yeah it's it's uh it's human nature to wait to deadlines deadlines are important a piece of the accountability piece
SPEAKER 20 :
What do you think, though? I've been making some changes in my life. I had talked with someone about Joe Rogan, who's wildly successful. A little bit.
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$500 million. Yeah.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's like more than any baseball player ever. And he just he's just a guy having conversation. You're we're doing it. We're announcing my podcast. You're coming on my show.
SPEAKER 20 :
OK, definitely. But so I listen to one of his podcasts and he was talking about being a success. And he said and, you know, he was a what a fighter.
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UFC UFC UFC fighter martial arts.
SPEAKER 20 :
And he said he became successful because he did the most difficult things first. And so I've started to try to do that as well. And I'm seeing a change in getting things done. And it's really affected my life, Kurt.
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Yeah, there's a concept called eat a frog. You know, if the first thing you do in your day is to eat a frog, the rest of your day is going to be pretty easy. So you make that disgusting face. And that's the face, that's that feeling that a lot of us get about the hardest thing to do during the day or the most disgusting. If you just did something that has to be done, it's on the critical path to achieve your goal. Get it done first and it'll get done more often and it'll make the rest of the day easier. And yeah, I agree.
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What do you think about that, Alan Thomas?
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Yeah, I've heard the eat the frog, and as a chronic procrastinator, thank you for justifying why I procrastinate so much. I'm explaining it, not justifying it. That'll make my wife very happy. Maybe she'll start setting earlier deadlines for me. Yeah.
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Well, the other thing, life does get full. And so we understand that as well. And there are things that you know you've got this deadline over here, but there's other things that needs to get done before that. And that's valid as well. But doing the most difficult things first in the day is actually it's pretty liberating to make that happen. So the fact that Congress has waited again until just a few days and said, hey, if you don't do this, then we're going to shut down the government. You know they've been negotiating on this whole thing. And Alan, to your point, the political maneuvering on this is a little wild. As Connie said, there's the reality, but there's that whole political maneuvering, which is somewhat curious.
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It is, and you know, it's... Again, we kind of play into the Democrats hands so, so often, don't we? I mean, as opposed to submitting continuous resolutions a month ago and saying, hey, it's actually the Democrats that are being the bad faith actors. Now we look like now Republicans look like the bad faith actors. And now the Democrats are going to say, oh, you don't want to pay federal workers on Christmas and New Year's and whatever. What a terrible way to start out the new year because these awful Republicans just want to help millionaires, right? So, again, there's principle and there's pragmatism, right? And too often the pragmatic gets dragged down by people that want to be too principled. And there is a point to principle, but there also is – a a filthy pragmatism that accompanies politics i mean case in point our constitution when you talk about pragmatism it had the opportunity to say slavery is wrong and we could have wrestled with that reality from day one of our country uh but there there was this pragmatic approach that said we're not going to get this constitution unless we make some concessions and so that's That's been politics for over a millennia. It'll be politics until humans are wiped off this planet.
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But from a principle standpoint, the story of the Constitution, many of the states didn't want to ratify without a Bill of Rights. And Madison said, ratify this and we'll get you the Bill of Rights. And they trusted him because he was a man of principle. He was a man of his word. And Kurt Gerwitz, that's pretty unique in human nature.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, you know, going back to the horse trading that's happening right now, you know, they passed a law. They took out pork out of Congress, and they went a decade, and nothing got done, and they were all frustrated. So we had to bring it back. We had to let people put in—what do they call it? They're not dog ears. Yeah, ear marks. Ear marks, yeah. They had to put in—I like dog ears. I don't want to call them dog ears. They had to put earmarks back in because people were like, I have to – I'm accountable to my local constituents, my voters, and they need me to fight for them to have jobs. That's what they hired. I'm their hired lawyer, their representative in the system, and I've got – we've got to have – I have to have something to trade. You have to have something to offer me for me to give you my vote. You mentioned Joe Reagan – Joe Rogan – Joe Reagan. How about that? Yeah. There's an interesting portmanteau. He had Blagojevich on the show recently. I haven't seen it yet. But that – do you remember? I do. He got in trouble for trading – Barack Obama's Senate seat. Senate seat, yeah. And he – And they have him on tape saying it's something of value. You don't just give that away. And who's clasping their pearls at such a statement? It's always been my understanding. That's just how this stuff works. It's politics. How is he the fall guy when there's so many... There's something there in that story I don't understand. But yeah, it's ugly, it's messy. I've always applauded you, Kim, for being willing to. You dress so nice and you're such a pretty young lady here. And you go and you get in the mud and you get in the dirt with those, what is it, teaching a pig to sing or wrestling a pig, right? It's just you're wasting your time and the pig enjoys it and you get all dirty. But I honor you for that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I tell you what, Kurt Gerwitz, I think part of it is probably America's Veterans Story Show and then getting to know Drew Dix, the Center for American Values. These... And I say men because primarily it was World War II. It was guys that were in combat. And hearing these stories of people willing to put their lives on the line, guys that have given their lives so that we could have liberty and And I think about our next generation and the generation after that. And this country was founded on people that stepped forward and were willing to give their lives for liberty. And I feel like I have to do my part. So that's why I do that. And I love people, but what I get very frustrated with is when people are trying to manipulate or lie. And that's where then I get into the fight. You're a crusader. I guess so. And my four years on city council was so eye-opening. And then I've served on different boards for nonprofits. And all of that has been very eye-opening. And so I've learned, Alan, kind of how the sausage is made. And ultimately, everyday people, we look out the window here at KLZ. We see cars going by. Everyday people that they just want to pursue their happiness. And it is PBIs that are doing the stuff that you're talking about, buying and selling, Senate seats, horse trading, all that. And that's wrong. And so my job is to shed light on that. That's what I think, Alan.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. And, you know, some of that masks a societal issue. Right. I mean, the fact that the fact that he knows he can hold on to that Senate seat or the fact that if we take pork out of out of bills, that nothing gets done shows how much people's vote can be bought. And that was a big fear of the founding fathers. They said, hey, if government ever figures out that they can buy people's vote with their own money, right. we're going to be in trouble as a republic. And we're really seeing the symptoms of that. And a lot of the solutions are more government, more pork, more this, that, or the other. And it's masking an underlying societal problem that's more difficult to address and to fix, especially as principled conservatives.
SPEAKER 01 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, it's tough to go out there and make people see that asking for federal money in their district is actually a net negative in their life, that the tax dollars have to come from somewhere. So, you know, we just have to be strategic and we have to just constantly be on the offensive to try and show people that, no, we want government as small as possible, that it's actually better for their lives if that's the case.
SPEAKER 20 :
And so it's a communication thing. And certainly Ronald Reagan was not perfect. And over the Thanksgiving holiday, I rented the movie Reagan. Many of you had said, Kim, you need to watch it. Well, I watched it, and then I rented it the next day, and the next day I should have just purchased it because there were so many different nuances in there as well. But I think that the thing is, is instead of saying I'm going to bring home the pork, I think that as from a communication standpoint, you say, I'm taking the stand because if government is smaller and you have more liberty in your life, you're ultimately going to thrive and flourish. And so we'll talk about a little bit of pork. And I want to talk with about if there's any agencies that should not be on the chopping block for,
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
Indeed. It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. I do want to recognize our Colorado Union of Taxpayers, my fellow board members. That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honiger, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson and Mary Jansen. we're gonna get through Christmas New Year's then the Colorado State Legislature will convene and we will be going to work to watch different legislation and if you would like to get our weekly email that we send to all of the legislators and the governor regarding our positions on different bills join us it's only $25 a year and you will be very very informed so if You can do that by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. That's coloradotaxpayer.org. We were talking about pork that is in these continuing resolution bills and earmarks, and I totally disagree with all of that. I would say let's let everyday people keep their money. Let's not borrow money. money from our children and grandchildren, more and more debt. So I got a little story for you when I was on city council. I know that I've told this before, but it was something that I was really grappling with. And Kurt, I'll go to you first on this. So I'm on city council and i thought that in the spirit of the constitution that at city council we would debate these issues that are in front of us and the public could come in and make public comment and that then then we would make a decision and the majority would you're laughing you're right because that's not that's exactly uh actually what i learned was study session is where you're going to see a lot of things and mary jansen i think she agrees with us because she was on city council in lakewood so A study session is where you really see what's kind of coming down the pike. But then there's things that have been talked about even before it gets to study session. So the mayor had approached each of the city council members and his thing, he was focused on light rail. He likes mass transit. And he wanted mass transit to come to Lone Tree. And then that would be good for development or good for the developer as they're developing Ridgegate. And so I was on 2012 to 2016 during the Obama years. And, of course, Obama was pushing the World Economic Forum, getting people out of their cars, onto buses. trains and buses and so they were offering what was called these new start grants to several municipal well several regional areas to put in light rail which was pushing forward this whole agenda by the world economic forum i didn't know it at the time i just kind of felt like you two look like i'm boring you i'm sorry so anyway um It was kind of like, we need to apply for this New Starts grant, and it would be good for the community. I was like, okay. We didn't really take a vote on it, but we went ahead and applied. I was new, seemed like, okay, you think it's good, okay. But then as I was learning more and more, it was highly expensive. It was like $207 million for 2.3 miles, and we were taking $96 million of federal money, which I thought that's wrong to be borrowing that from our neighbors and our children. And so I voted no on it. I kid you not, a very influential Republican that lives in my neighborhood was so frustrated with me. And I said, this isn't right to take this government money. And she said, Kim, if we don't take it, someone else will. And that's akin to if we don't rob you, somebody else will. So you might as well let us get to it. That's my opinion. What do you think?
SPEAKER 17 :
You've got a point. And I wasn't bored. I was frustrated by the topic. Yeah, I hold my nose when I vote most of the time, right? Like, it's a fascinating question you brought up. But the clean piece of this, the cleanest piece of this is, like, how wasteful is it? How much does it cost per mile? Why does it cost so much per mile?
SPEAKER 06 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 17 :
Like, can America build? See, here's the thing, Kim. I'm such a strong believer in public transportation. And that's where you and I would probably disagree.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, we probably would.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know I'm a single-issue voter.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and the reason is is because it's so totally subsidized.
SPEAKER 17 :
It requires community action, yeah. See, there's a balance in the world between the individual and the community. And we need, you know, liberals and liberals and conservatives. We need the left and the right. We need the yin and the yang. We need the Democrats and the Republicans. And I don't think we just need the two. I think we need a lot of outside voices, too. But, yeah, like there's there are things that require and the smaller, the better. Like like you in your first hour, you're talking about bringing down. That, you know, if we if we if we're winning against the socialists at the highest level, which we have in this last election, then now the fight goes to the states and the local. Well, that's a better place for it. And, you know, your family, no family is a democracy, right? Your children don't get to vote on whether they get to have Twizzlers for dinner.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, but that's the family. That's different than government.
SPEAKER 17 :
And then it goes, you know, the next step up is the church or the community, and then the next step up is the local. And so, yeah, local rule should. But sometimes it requires, you know, collective action.
SPEAKER 20 :
You mean legalized theft from one person to give to another?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I guess that's what I mean.
SPEAKER 20 :
What do you think, Alan?
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you, Kurt Gerwitz. No, absolutely. And it is an intriguing question. And the problem with subsidies is it's very easy to subsidize something and say, here's what was produced, right? I mean, this is economics in one lesson. This is the broken window fallacy. It's easy to say, hey, you know, the money is going to the glazier, you know, the person who's replacing the window. So actually it was a net positive for... The whole community.
SPEAKER 20 :
Let's set it up just so. What happened was is the store owner, somebody threw a rock through his window, and so the window's broken, and there are those that say that that's an economic driver.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's actually economically good because then the glazier gets business, and then the glazier's able to pay his employees, and he's able to do things. And what's ignored is you're able to say, okay, well, a new window pane of glass was built. A new light rail was built. A new... windmill of clean energy was built, it was subsidized. Here's what we did with your money. The problem is, is it's very in the air of what would have happened with that money had it not been taken from the business owner, had that taxes not been taken. And the point that is the store owner was forced to buy a window. What could he have invested in in himself, in his employees, in his business, or what could he have bought from other places? We'll never know. We'll never know where that money could have actually gone. And it's difficult to talk about an intangible thing. And when we talk about subsidies, that's the difficulty is it's easy to say, hey, we spent 95 million on this. It's very difficult to say, hey, what would a small business owner have done with an extra $400 or $500 in taxes. And if you spread that out across all the business owners, that $95 million, what net positive could have happened to society if we hadn't taken that $95 million from other people? And that's the difficulty about these conversations is there's an intangible thing. And then there's the, hey, here's what we did with it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. So the store owner, now let's take out, let's say that he didn't have insurance, but even if he had insurance, there is that cost. But let's say The brick comes through his window, he has to pay money to have the glazer put in the new window, and of course all the downstream from the glass has to be produced and manufactured, all that. All these people have jobs. That's the argument. But if you look at it, the store owner had a window before. He has a window after. But he had to pay money that he could have used for something else. Instead, he's just at even. And so that's, I think, the fallacy of the broken window. Yes?
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. And that's the difficulty of talking about subsidies, too, right? It's like, where could that money have actually been used? Because now we have a new window. Now we have a new fill in the blank. I mean, this isn't just public transportation. This is subsidies in general, right?
SPEAKER 20 :
So what do you think about that, Kurt?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I'm squirming in my seat here. If only we had an economics professor who could chime in on this. No, you guys, you've nailed it correctly. So the language I would add to it is, so it's an unseen opportunity cost. It's like, you know, I do more finance than economics. And in finance, we don't talk about what else you could have done with that money sometimes. So that's exactly the point, is the $95 million from the government to build, you know, in Colorado... It's not just that this is magic money from the government. This is taxpayers' dollars. And for the window, it's like what else would that owner have done with that money? Rather than repair something, he would have built something. And it's always better to build than to just repair. Exactly.
SPEAKER 20 :
Good point. We've got some great stuff coming in on the text line. I love this from Eric. He says, how about choice in transportation? So that's what they're trying to do is take away our choices.
SPEAKER 17 :
For me, the choice is like I don't have the choice to not have a car. That is not a choice in America. This is embarrassing for America. There's programs where like the government will help you buy a car because we know it's – if we're going to be in the streets and say that healthcare is a right and that's going to force doctors to work. then we're gonna how sooner is it before we say that having you know an automobile having that that mobility of that that version of mobility is a human right because it's required look i i you know i've been on the air with you almost two years now and one of my early subjects was social mobility and having a car is really really essential for people getting out of poverty and having a job and getting around, so cars are that important in the United States, and I encourage you, I was running, I tried to start a nonprofit, it failed quickly, to send politicians to Amsterdam, where you can see that people have made a choice to live better in community, And I think that I have a lot to say about cars and how evil they are in general. But the essentially like we could choose. We have such great weather and we've got a we've got a good nature loving population here. We should be on bicycles. It's more efficient. It's yes, there are there is a place for cars. But boy, like the roads.
SPEAKER 20 :
I couldn't do I couldn't do what I do on a bicycle, Kurt. You could. I couldn't. No, you couldn't. I have no interest in getting on a bicycle and riding over here at five o'clock in the morning. It's dangerous. It might be snowing. It might be snowing. It's rain. It would take me so much time. Then I can't go back.
SPEAKER 17 :
meet my clients i can't do that you're and you're lacking the i would i would have a non-profit that would send you to amsterdam to show you how life could be lived so much better than art like if you look at when they built the game um sim city they had to take out parking lots because parking lots they absolutely destroy community like making you tell me whether a community is like whether a street is more enjoyable if it's walkable or not
SPEAKER 20 :
We're talking about, that's a luxury. People, if they have, well, but those that are pushing public transportation, first of all, it's not economically viable. Because the cost, you're fair, and this was when I was on city council. The fare that you pay only covers 20% of the operating cost. It doesn't even cover anything for building it. And nobody wants to ride these trains because they're dirty, they're dangerous, they're inefficient. And so by subsidizing it, you're taking away other people's choices, Kurt.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's a lack of vision to imagine the world that I've seen where public transportation is clean and fun and you make a friend while you sit next to your neighbor. I think windshield time is one of the worst things on planet Earth, and it's the worst in America. I think a gift from COVID was work from home, and people realize that the commute is the strongest correlation to happiness is the inverse correlation to how long your commute is. So time in cars, we're individuals and we're sitting in SUVs, or most of us are sitting in sedans, but we're one and one in the car. And if you look at the amount of space that's being used, I've got more on this topic. I want to talk about how the SBA and how veteran services are flowing through the federal government to help our local veterans.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, let's just, I think we'll have part two on this next time you're in. Alan, would you like to say anything on this? Then we'll go to break.
SPEAKER 02 :
There's parts of things that you're touching on that I agree with, but I probably disagree with the With the conclusion, like, yes, commuting is terrible. I don't think anybody has talked about how wonderful they find the commute, but taking people's choices away. You know, we do this a lot where we compare ourselves to Europe and we forget how condensed Europe is and how how long it has existed before. And the time it takes to get from European countries is the United States is massive. It's absolutely massive. And you're talking about a homogeny or it's so heterogeneous in Europe, in certain places, that's difficult to take directly from them and put it into here. I mean, I've been to Paris and it is wonderful to be able to take. public transportation all around as a tourist. I'm not saying I'm not against public transportation. I'm saying that there is a difference between Europe and the U.S. And even with subsidizing it, we have not been able to copy that model. And there's something there that we need to figure out. But again, it doesn't justify subsidies either.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I love the freedom of the open road. And I used to call my car, my commuting taking kids to school or whatever, the tube of truth. It was amazing what you would find out when you were in the car with your children. So, gosh, we're going to go to break and lots coming in on the text line. But we want to talk about Doge and the Small Business Administration. We have these discussions because of our sponsors. And if you've been injured, reach out as soon as possible to John Boson and Boson Law.
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SPEAKER 20 :
It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity as we look at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Alan Thomas is in studio. We'll be rolling out your essay, Beautiful Christmas Stories. And Professor Kurt Gerwitz. I have to apologize. We're not going to get to the Small Business Administration. We'll do it next month. So first question coming in on the text line. How does a family of six get groceries home? Or if you're an electrician and you need your tools, how do you make all that happen on a bicycle?
SPEAKER 17 :
It does happen. It happens in a cargo bike, and kids should be walking to school. But I get it. We lack vision for this in the United States. If you haven't seen it, it's hard to imagine. It's impossible to imagine under the current state.
SPEAKER 20 :
So Amsterdam, this listener says Amsterdam has a huge drug problem and a lot of human trafficking.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it's a large cosmopolitan city. It's one of the most diverse and capitalist places on planet Earth. It's a lot like New York City. It's the New York City of, you know, Northern Europe, perhaps. And New York City is a place where, you know, most of the citizens there prefer to not have a car.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. Okay, let's get to Yvonne. She's on the line, and I want to get to some of these other text messages. Yvonne, what's on your radar?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, hi. First of all, I just wanted to say Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah and all the other holidays at the end of the year for you and Kirk and also Alan. And I was just really touched by all the Christmas stories that Alan was talking about. Sorry to interrupt your economics, but since it's Christmas, back to Christmas, I just wanted to thank Alan for that. As a veteran, and I had actually heard that one story from World War I, and it was just great to hear it again because sometimes you forget. And I think sometimes people also forget that military folks despise war more than anybody else. because it is us who have to fight, bleed, and die in them. And I think sometimes we're looked at as warm hungers or something when it's really quite the opposite. And that was beautifully illustrated by those people who left their trenches to go to the no man's land in between and celebrate together, if only for one evening. So I thought that was really, really beautiful. And I wanted to share what happened last evening. I was having dinner with a friend here at home. And we had a ring at the door, and we're like, oh, I wonder if it's, you know, a neighbor or something. And we went out, and there must have been over 20, I'm going to say 27, but it could have been more, teens with their Santa hats on, and they were singing Christmas carols. And I'm telling you, this has not happened in my neighborhood for probably over 20 years. I think in the almost 30 years or 20-something years that I've lived here, It might have happened once so long ago, I can't remember, but it did happen last night, and it just touched my heart. And having, you know, been a police officer and everything, there's a million things that young people can be out doing at night that is not good for them or for other people. And to see so many gathered, to just ring a stranger's doorbell and bring a little Christmas cheer, it just filled my heart, you know? And we joined in in song, and gosh dang it, between here and the next four days until Christmas, I might just grab hats with some other adults and go do it too.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, that's awesome, Yvonne. Thank you so much. Let's get back to some of these text messages. One says, try riding a bike in the snow. So riding... You have your Santa hat on now, Kurt. Yeah. Five o'clock in the morning. I'd have to leave at four o'clock in the morning. No, no. I like freedom of transportation. I don't like all these subsidies. Another one said, and this after the whole Daniel Penny thing, how safe are the subways in the big cities? I used to go to New York regularly. I wouldn't want to get on the subways right now. I never did like, you know, walking down those stairs or going down the escalator. And I never liked getting on the subway, Kurt.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it's terrible. The only thing worse is a car.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, my gosh. I love my freedom of mobility. And you know what? Fine, but don't take my money to subsidize what you want to have happen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I mean, you don't think that the way that America's set up has been subsidized? You don't think that this has been the influence of... It's one of my favorite conspiracies is the the streetcar conspiracy was Firestone and GM. And they went around city to city and took out streetcars. And I mean, it was a big deal in New Orleans. My dad was out there protesting in 1960. And and then it was in 2000. I think it was before he died. It was in the 2000s that they put the streetcar lines back in. They're romantic and they go where you expect them to go. They had taken them out and replaced them with buses because you can sell a bus and you can replace tires. But the streetcar was too good to be true.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think the bottom line, I get your whole subsidy thing, but I like my freedom of mobility. I like to go where I want to when I want to.
SPEAKER 17 :
It comes at the cost of other people being able to have the freedom to walk to places. It's about urban design. It's the freedom to not have a car in the United States, to move from poverty into the middle class. Good luck. You've got to have a car.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. We're just about out of time. Anything you want to say on this, Alan?
SPEAKER 02 :
Again, I think you can touch on two things and they can be true. Absolutely, I'm completely against cronyism where big businesses get in the pocket of government and take away things to pad their bottom line. Do I fully believe that GM Buick Firestone got so big that they used the government to get their way? Absolutely. And that continues today. And I would be 100% in favor of government... reducing regulations, getting rid of compliance to allow the free market to come to a solution, whether that is the vision of Kurt here or whether that's the vision somewhere in between. But let free market figure out what people really want and take away the ability of government to get into bed with big businesses, let them compete the same way everybody else does, and let the consumer decide what's best. And really, that's going to be the... That's really the difference between the European model and our model is we are very unrelenting on our freedom to choose. And we are very distrusting of a government ever having our best interest in mind. And as long as we have that difference of opinion, it's going to be difficult to enact a lot of these different ideas.
SPEAKER 20 :
But it's important to have these discussions. So, Kurt, thank you for being here. We're just about out of time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Can I get one sentence in or no? You tell me. You hate it that we're subsidizing electric, but you've forgotten that we have subsidized the internal combustion engine from the past. I'll say this. Yvonne was right. The only thing more interesting than economics is indeed love. So let's get out there and sing Christmas carols.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Kurt Gerwitz, thanks for being here. Appreciate it. Alan Thomas, thank you so much for being here. Our quote for the end of the show is what General McAuliffe said when he was presented with the request to surrender from the Germans at Bastogne in World War II, Battle of the Bulge. He said, nuts. Nuts. And so today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America, and Merry, Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tell them if I don't survive, I was born.
SPEAKER 12 :
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