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On this episode of The Kim Munson Show, we engage in in-depth conversations about economics and climate change. Insights from financial expert Loren Levy reveal the intricacies of federal interest rates, inflation, and their impacts on everyday life. Kim examines policies affecting personal mobility and environmental conservation, bringing historical context to the forefront. Through a wide array of topics from insurance to Veteran stories, experience a comprehensive narrative that seeks truth and questions the role of government in our personal and economic liberties.
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It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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I find that it takes work to get your brain around these ideas, and it takes work to engage in these conversations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it's not.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Thursday, Producer Joe.
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Thank goodness it's Thursday.
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We have been working like maniacs. We have prerecorded the shows for next week. And they are great guests, fabulous interviews. We've got one more we're going to do this morning. And so I thank you for your hard work on all of this, Producer Joe.
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It's definitely fun. It's a lot of information, but it's a lot of fun, too.
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It is, and so I thank you for that. And check out the website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. That goes out on Sundays. And we very seldom will do an extra email. We really want to respect your inbox. So sign up for that. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or their lives. And force can be a weapon, policy an unpredictable and excessive taxation. Fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum, globalist elites, United Nations, that whole agenda that gets played out by the Colorado State Legislature and the Colorado governor. Then we're seeing that also at the municipal and county levels as well. Land use codes, zoning regulations, forced fees, conservation easements, and the list goes on and on. We've got to get this walked back and get government involved. back into its proper role, and we've got an opportunity right now to do that. And remember, if something's a good idea, you do not have to use force to implement it. If you have to use force or any of those force words, then it's really not a good idea. Our word of the day is intrepidity, and we use that typically every Friday when we have our quote of the day is from the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. As we read the citations of each of these Medal of Honor recipients, it normally starts out with the word intrepidity in that. And this is a good time to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And Drew Dix and Brad Padula are the co-founders. Drew is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. Brad is an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker. And they came together. They both grew up in Pueblo. So we need to honor these Medal of Honor guys. And so hence the Center for American Values. I'd really recommend that you make a day trip to Pueblo at least and visit the center. And there's also great restaurants for lunch or dinner. And be sure and check that out. I think that's something that would be very memorable for your children or your grandchildren. To get more information about the center, go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And they can get you some more information. But the word intrepidity is the quality or state of being intrepid, fearless, bravery, courage, resoluteness, and courageousness. And we need to step forward each day with intrepidity as we engage in the battle of ideas that we are facing right now. I do believe, my friends, we are in the third founding of our country. And it just takes a remnant to stand up for liberty. And that is what we need to do. Our quote of the day, since this is Liberty Toastmasters' day on the show, I thought I'd go to the great communicator, Ronald Reagan. He was born in 1911, died in 2004. He was an American politician and actor. He was the 40th president of the United States. He had been a Democrat, and he became a Republican, and he's a very important figure in the American conservative movement. And, of course, the word conservative means to conserve and preserve power. these foundational principles of America that we're all created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And he said this, and I decided to use this quote because Second Hour featured guest is Chris Harris, a retired U.S. border agent out of the San Diego sector. And Ronald Reagan said this, he said, a nation is And that, again, is Ronald Reagan. And you know that normally on Wednesday is our weekly update with Lorne Levy. But the Fed was meeting yesterday, and so we thought, let's push this to Thursday. And I wanted to find out what happened. Lorne Levy. can help you with anything mortgages, a first mortgage, a second mortgage, a reverse mortgage, in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. And he strives for excellence, and that's why I'm so honored to have him as a sponsor of both the Kim Munson Show and America's Veterans Stories. Loren Levy, welcome.
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Hey, good morning, Kim.
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So I saw the headlines, and the Fed dropped the rate a little bit, yes?
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Yep, they lowered by a quarter again. Second time, they did a half back in September, if you remember, and then we did a quarter in November and a quarter in December, which you would normally think is a good thing, would be celebrated, but the market did not. Like we talk about a lot, it's not necessarily what they do, it's what they say after the meeting a lot. and the market did not necessarily like it. And so I'm not sure if you saw, but the Dow went down about 1,100 points yesterday. Yeah, I saw that headline. Over 700, yeah.
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So what was said afterwards that the market reacted that didn't like it?
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So people try to speculate or guess what the Fed is going to do moving forward. The Fed does issue something called a dot plot, which is kind of like, their best guesstimate on what they think they might do with the rates going forward for like the next year and people were anticipating i think it was four rate cuts next year at least through 2025 and they cut that down to probably two to three at the most um the reason is it's what you and i talk about a lot kim is you know the data that they watch whether you believe that that's the data they should be watching or not but the data that they do watch like unemployment The unemployment rate is still at about 4%, which is great. People aren't losing their jobs, which happens a lot when interest rates rise. And prices in the grocery store and other places are being a little bit more stubborn than they want. Inflation kind of came down and then stopped for a little bit, and they don't want it to go back up. And so they've signaled that they're not going to lower as much as people may have thought. And that's what scared the market, because a lot of companies in the stock market rely on borrowing money to grow, and they want cheaper money, obviously, and if rates aren't going to go down as much, then the money won't be as cheap.
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So, Lauren, we talk about it all the time, and is this government-induced inflation and the devaluing of the dollar, and it happens when government prints money. And with the Biden-Harris administration heading out the door, it's like they can't spend money fast enough. It seems like if we could stop that or claw that back, that would be very helpful for America's finances. What do you think about that?
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Yeah, I mean, I think any time, I agree. But when you stop spending money, that's the term they use, that's called tightening, right, at some level. And, you know, taking money out of supply is good because it doesn't create the inflation, which is nice. But when you've got, you know, a watchdog or like a Federal Reserve whose job is to watch inflation and watch employment, they've just got to do what they think the data says. Drives them to do so I agree. I think you know anytime you can stop printing money and start to claw back some of it It is good It just takes time and so I think rates are just gonna be a little higher so you know as far as we're concerned the initial effect on the mortgage market is you know we talked a lot about the 10-year Treasury right I was in studio the other day where in September when rates hit their bottom right before the first Fed cut the 10-year Treasury was three point six three and And rates hit about 599%. Today, the 10-year is at 454. Wow. So almost a full percent higher, which means rates are back up at like the 7 range. So what does that have an effect on? It puts a crimp into maybe what people can afford on their monthly dates just when they go to buy a home.
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Right.
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And what that means is it's more important than ever to pre-qualify, stay pre-qualified, stay in touch with the person you're working with. If you're working with us, stay in touch as rates move around as you look for a home. But again, as always, if we can help you and help you get pre-qualified in a monthly payment that you can handle and afford and get into a home that you love, at some point, the consensus is that rates will come down. And that's when we would refile you into a much better payment but for now rates are higher than they were even just you know even a week ago wow okay well lauren levy um how can people reach you because being prepared is half the battle and so how can people reach you and it's a complimentary appointment yep the best way is just call 303-880-8881 and you know what i would say is we're in a time right now of of news and action right because we've We're between administrations, which is not necessarily, you know, we all think good things are coming, but there's a lot of news and rumors of what might happen, what might not happen. And so rates are moving. And so it's a good time to have a conversation and stay in touch and make sure that if you are looking for a home or looking to do something that you're on top of things as they move around. So you don't have any surprise.
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Absolutely. And that number for Lauren Levy is 303-880-8881. Now, Lauren, we've pre-recorded everything for next week. And when you and Karen were in studio last week, we pre-recorded your weekly update. So we will talk to you live in a couple of weeks.
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Okay, great. You have a great holiday. Merry Christmas and we'll talk to you soon.
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Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. And boy, he is so on top of everything. He's just great to have as a sponsor as well. So really do appreciate that. Another great sponsor of the show is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. Roger's been in business for 48 years taking care of his farm. clients and his family and giving back to the community. And if you bundle your insurance together, you might be able to save money. That means your car and your home and your boat and your camper and all that. And don't forget, if you are a renter, make sure that you have renter's insurance. And so to sit down with them for a complimentary appointment, that number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Now, we do broadcast 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday on The Kim Munson Show on all KLZ 560 platforms. Our first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. We do get the summary, a written summary of the show with the podcast embedded in that. that you can find on the website. You just click on the image of each day, and it will bring all of that information up. And then once that occurs, that podcast also, you can listen to that on Spotify and iTunes. So be sure and check that out. Our sponsors, we are just so blessed with amazing people. One of those great sponsors is the Harris family, and we appreciate their goal sponsorship of the show. And I did want to mention... America's Veterans Stories. Last week, 3 to 4 p.m. on Sunday on all KLZ 560 platforms, we broadcast part one of an interview with Carl Leppard, Vietnam veteran. And he was involved in, well, he talks about three key battles that he was involved in. Two of them were classified for many, many years. And he's a Marine, and that's why I'm so pleased to do the America's Veterans Story Show. But that's another reason why I am so honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and the work that they're doing. to raise the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And the memorial is located at 6th and Colfax, and you can help them. You can buy a brick to honor your loved one's military service or your military service. And if you do that now, they have a match. A donor will actually match that buy-a-brick program. So more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then as we're into bowl season here now, coming into Christmas, New Year's, and a great place to watch all those games is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. So be sure and get together with friends to watch the games at Hooters Restaurants. Lots going on. I have a lot on this day in history and some other headlines I want to get to. But first thing, and yesterday we... We recorded our podcast for A Climate Conversation with Dr. Ronan Connolly, and we talked about the sun and how that affects climate and super interesting. That'll post soon at aclimateconversation.com. But we have weather. And the climate does change if you look throughout history. At one point in time, Colorado was a frozen place. And then there was a time when Colorado was a tropical rainforest. And so the climate has always been changing. But that's why I like to mention these weather events. 1551, the Dutch West Coast was hit by a hurricane. In 1732, Benjamin Franklin, under the pseudonym of Richard Saunders, begins publication of Poor Richard's Almanac, which he produced annually for 25 years. On this day, 1776, Thomas Paine publishes his first American Crisis essay, beginning with these words, these are the times that try men's souls. 1777, Washington settles his troops at Valley Forge, Pennsylvania. And then several of our guests that we have recorded for next week, as we were talking about Christmas, has referenced the Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. And it was published in 1843, and there were 6,000 copies that were sold. Let's see. There's others that are just super interesting things. Oh, 1948 was the eighth largest snowfall in New York City history. 15.3 inches. Let's see, 1941, Adolf Hitler takes complete command of the German army. So just think about the timing. So December 7th, 1941, the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor and And here we are, what, now we're on the 19th, and Adolf Hitler takes complete command of the German army over on the European front. Let's see. Oh, I thought a couple of things. 1998, do you remember this? U.S. House of Representatives votes to impeach President Bill Clinton over the Lewinsky scandal, forwarding the articles of impeachment to the Senate for a trial. And a couple other things here.
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2018.
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Since drones are in the news so much, and of course we talk about vaccines as well. In 2018, the first use of a drone to deliver vaccines to an island of Aramango Vanatu by UNICEF. So and then 2018, U.S. President Donald Trump announces the victory over the Islamic State and planned withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria. Wow. That just fast forward now to 2024 under the Biden-Harris administration and the Middle East is on fire. 2022, and I'm sure Jenny, one of our listeners, remembers this. 2022, 190 countries agree to protect 30% of the world's land and oceans by 2030 and other measures to halt declining global biodiversity at the UN Biodiversity Conference in Montreal. So there's that pesky 30 by 30 that they're trying to take more land and water and not let humans access it. And ultimately, it will make human flourishing will decline. And then this last one, 2023 Colorado Supreme Court rules that Donald Trump is ineligible to run for president. after participating in an insurrection under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. And, of course, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned that. So that's a whole bunch of things that happened in history. Regarding our news articles, the first one – and now this is from The Rolling Stone – It says, Musk kills government funding deal, demands shutdown until Trump is sworn in. And Susan had texted me and said that there was a lot of nasty stuff in this CR, this continuing resolution. And as I commented that we need to get government back in its proper role, Susan texted me. She said, I think we're definitely going to get our government back under control. The Democrats are whining on X about Ilan snapping his fingers and crushing this nasty continuing resolution. Again, they were trying to get this done before Donald Trump takes office. And she says, if you look at the comments under the Democrats post, people are explaining that Ilan just amplified everything. everyday people's voices. So I think that that's pretty important. And then next thing, this is a headline from the Daily Mail. It says, fury as California gets the green light to ban all gas cars in this Democrat state by 2035. The Environmental Protection Agency granted this on Wednesday, and it was to request from California to enforce strict standards for vehicle emissions after it found opponents were not able to meet the legal burden of how it was inconsistent with the Federal Clean Air Act. This is an assault upon our freedom of mobility. Our grid can't handle what's going on now from an electric standpoint. So how the heck is that going to work out in California if everybody has to have an electric car? Well, let's just connect the dot. I said, let's just connect the dot. And that is that ultimately people will not be able to have their own personal vehicle. That means that they will not have freedom of mobility. And one of the ways that they'll get to this 30 by 30 is that if people don't have vehicles where they can travel to go, for example, in Colorado, So many people love the mountains, love to hike, love to have their personal vehicle to get up to the mountains to bike, ski. And if they don't have that personal vehicle, then they're not going to be able to. And so all this stuff is connected on all this. And ultimately, they want people to live in these apartments that they are using government funds. favorable financing to build, a local level, incentives, fast tracking, permits, variety of things. They want people to live in these little boxes, not have families, travel around on trains and buses. And that's what their vision is because they don't really like human flourishing very much. I personally like human flourishing, and that's why we do the show so that we can talk about it. and protect that. Another headline that I wanted to hit, Gavin Newsom, apparently he wants to run for president. And then we see that Jared Polis is trying to posture himself as more of a libertarian when we are truly under the thumb of bureaucratic administrative government here under Jared Polis. But both of these guys, they want to run for president. They're both running their states into the ground. And this is from the Washington Examiner. It says Newsom claims job growth. However, the feds say the state lost 156,300 jobs in the first half of 2024. And we talked a little bit about it yesterday. With that forced minimum wage, over 6,000 people lost their jobs in California in just the fast food industry. And, of course, many of those that own these different franchises, McDonald's and these different franchises, these are entrepreneurs. So it's making it more and more difficult for our entrepreneurs as well. And so... We've got to reclaim our country. We've got to reclaim our state. And the way we do that is engage in the battle of ideas. And we are able to do that because of our sponsors. And for everything regarding residential real estate, reach out to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I am so pleased today is Table Topics Day from Liberty Toastmasters, my fellow Liberty Toastmasters. And we want to talk about the courage to influence. And our first caller, our first guest is Brad Beck, who is a co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. He's helped thousands of people find their voices. Brad Beck, welcome to the show.
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Well, Merry Christmas, Kim, and it's good to hear your voice.
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Well, Happy Hanukkah to you.
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Thank you. Well, you know, the courage to influence is really your word of the day. It's having the fortitude to take action and really impact others, even when you're uncomfortable or challenged to do something. And I love this topic because it essentially takes one person to stand up for their beliefs, their ideas, to speak out when others are you know, potentially forcing you to go one way and you have the resistance to go another and bring about a positive change about something. So, and it really, for me, it's about advocating for things like individual rights and understanding what motivates people. That's why we started the Liberty Toastmasters Club to give people their voice. And so one example I think that comes to mind and kind of will send the base for this topic is the idea of the Overton Window, which I know a lot of people think they know about, but it's really a way to understand what's happening. It's not a strategy. And there was a gentleman named Joe Overton who worked in the 1990s at the Mackinac Center, which was a conservative think tank in Michigan. And he just wanted to have a way to explain to donors what a point of view would look like at a think tank. And he created a brochure that had this slide, like a slide rule, if you will. And it had an opening and it was a way to explain to donors the range of possibilities of public policy, especially concerning a single issue. And the Mackinac Center was really interested in teaching people about the freedom in education. And it might run from the idea of zero public investment all the way to compulsory indoctrination in government schools. Who would think we'd ever have that? But it gave you that range. And when Overton started to talk about this, he would move his slider to different policies that fell within the window of political possibility. So the Overton window really is a description. It's not a tactic. And so when we talked talk about the ideas that are coming to the forefront. And there's so many of them. We talked a little bit about what's in the news. It really takes courage to talk about ideas in a way that public policy over time has to do with cultural change. It has to do with lots of work. And you might be the only one talking about it. And it takes real intrepidity to be able to do that. And I think it's important that There is that one person, because when there's one person, there's usually people who are sitting on the sidelines, afraid. But when one person has a voice, it sets the tone for others to stand up and say, yeah, I agree with that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well done, Brad Beck, and you are such an important communicator, and we so would recommend people join Liberty Toastmasters. The left has all these training organizations for people that are going to be involved in public policy and run for office.
SPEAKER 15 :
it doesn't seem that the the freedom side does uh it's it's more we have to put it together and so for that communication component i so highly recommend that people join us for liberty toastmasters we welcome all and we have two clubs we meet up in north and longmont on the second and fourth saturday of the month and in denver at the first and third and you can look up on our website at liberty toastmasters I'll take you right to our various locations, and we welcome all guests. Come in, practice, and we want to wish everybody the best for the holidays.
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Thank you so much, Brad Beck. And then Marshall Dawson is on the line. And I love the fact that Marshall, he doesn't just talk about things. He steps forward. He's run for Congress, which is a really big deal. We would be blessed to have Marshall Dawson in Congress. And I so appreciate the fact that he stepped forward and run these campaigns. And he's really been in that realm of the courage to influence. Marshall Dawson, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow, Kim, I could just let you continue. I mean, you were doing great there with that introduction. Hey, good morning. And, you know, it sounds like you're flying solo there. You don't have any co-hosts this morning. Is that right?
SPEAKER 20 :
I thought I was going to. And Carol Baker and I, I think we got our wires crossed. And so, unfortunately, I know she loves to come in and I love her perspective. But that happens sometimes. And this morning was one of those times.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, darn that Carol. She's not here, so we'll blame her. You know, I guess I'm expected to talk about politics. I guess I'm one of the token candidates in Liberty Toastmasters. But I think it's important to point out, you know, especially we have listeners who are not necessarily politically active or involved. You know, they might be politically interested. But it's really important. It's really vital. It's really valuable. that we all exert our influence. We all have the courage to exert our influence in our regular daily lives outside of this world of politics. So whether that's in your job, if you can come up with an idea for your employer to make more money, that's a way that you can bring your influence forward. If you see something that is, let's say, unsafe on a manufacturing floor, that is a really valuable way you can bring your influence forward. within your family, right? Is your daughter perhaps saying, well, you know, so-and-so, you know, little Susie next door, you know, she gets to do this. Why can't I? You know, you as a loving parent have the right and should have the courage to be strong and raise your family the way that you want. I could say the same for, you know, churches or for civic organizations. But I will bring it to politics here a little bit. I read something recently that really resonated. Listeners, I found this on Town Hall. Apparently it came from Senator Forbes. I read this a couple of days ago. Rob Flaherty was Kamala Harris's digital director and did an interview. And he said a few things that I thought were really interesting. They definitely resonated with me. And let me set the context a little bit here. Two years ago when I first ran for Congress, I saw some great candidates across Colorado who had very competitive races, and yet they struggled to kind of rise above the national politics and that national tenor. And some of these legislative districts might be, let's say, a $120,000 race. And yet, you know, it's all the energy in the room is being sucked up. But it was, at that time, it was Donald Trump. It was the leak of the Dobbs petition coming out. And I thought, my gosh, you know, what a challenge it is for candidates to be able to rise above that. Anyway, coming back to what Rob Flaherty said, he said that campaigns, in many ways, are last-mile marketers. I mean, if you think about what a last mile is of infrastructure... You know, if they build an interstate, you know, I-25 or I-70, that doesn't go to your house. The last mile is what goes to your house. Or, you know, if you think about when we used to actually have telephone lines that would come to our homes, that last mile reaching the consumers, reaching the voters individually, that's the last mile. Campaigns in many ways are the last mile marketers that exist in a terrain that is set by culture. So this is where I want to bring it back to influence. We have to be able to influence the culture and ultimately it's the candidates that are then responsible for reaching out to the voters. Now, we're going to have Colorado Republican elections coming up in just a few months. And I would invite people who are going to be voters there to ask yourselves, has the party as it exists, has it been helping to influence culture? Has it been helping to give voters you know, the campaigns and the candidates, the things that they need to go out and win the races, or it hasn't been actively working against a lot of our great candidates. So, you know, that's coming up, and I'll wrap it up with this. You know, Winston Churchill said that politics are almost as exciting as war and quite as dangerous. He said, in war, you can only be killed once, but in politics, many times.
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True that, huh?
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So, yeah, we don't all have to be politicians. We don't all have to be knee deep in that fight, neck deep in that fight, I guess. There are so many opportunities to have the courage to influence in your daily lives. And we'll make the world a better place that way. And leave the politics to the politicians.
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Okay. Well done, Marshall Dawson. Thank you so much. And Greg Morrissey is from Liberty Toastmasters North. Greg, what's your thoughts about the courage to influence?
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I think the courage to influence is one of the reasons I got involved with Liberty Toastmasters. And the reason I did that was to learn to have the courage to get out in front and speak to people. And when you learn that and you go through the process, I encourage all your listeners, come to our Liberty Toastmasters meeting. Come see what we're about. Come see about how important it is to communicate to people from different ethnicities and how you can make an influence in your society. I'm an active speaker here at the City of Longmont when you go to the City of Longmont meetings. And now I've developed a relationship with the people here in the City of Longmont who run the city. And I'd also encourage people to go to their local city meetings hear what their local politicians say and get a good understanding and basis on how the actual political system works. Because what the press says and when you go to these meetings, what they say are two different things. And you get to understand how important communication is and correct communication is. If you go to those meetings, meet those people, meet your local politicians, get involved in some of those races, and you can make a difference. It doesn't happen overnight, but the fact that you have to have self-confidence and good communication skills are critical. And that's the good thing about Liberty Toastmasters. You learn all that going through that process. You get to get up there and speak in front of people. You have to prepare your speech.
SPEAKER 20 :
Greg, you've really nailed it. Confidence and being able to communicate. And you do such a great job on that. And I really appreciate your perspective. And I always learn something from you, Greg Morrissey. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be on your show.
SPEAKER 20 :
My delight. And our next guest is Ross Clough. And Ross, welcome. You're a member of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. And what's your thoughts about the courage to influence?
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you so much for having me on. And good morning, everybody. And my thoughts, there's two things. First of all, Toastmasters and Liberty Toastmasters is great. It gives you the experience and the techniques to make a difference. And the second thing I'd like to share with you is something I've kind of learned over the years that can help you make a positive difference. And that is looking for areas of injustice. And one area of injustice that has come up in the past four years is the assault on our small businesses. And it's really sad. It started with these COVID lockdowns. If you remember with those lockdowns, they basically told almost all the small businesses that they had to shut their doors. At the same time, big businesses like Walmart, Kroger, and so on were allowed to keep their doors wide open, and that made the big businesses even more crowded, and it spread COVID faster and made the virus worse doing that. And then on top of that, 38.9% of small businesses in Colorado went out of business. Talk about a terrible policy. It makes the virus worse. Almost 40% of the small businesses went out of business. It was completely terrible, and it's still happening. The latest assault on the small businesses is what's called the Corporate Transparency Act, and it's forcing small businesses to do this weird reporting with the federal government of a whole bunch of sensitive information, and it's supposedly to help stop crime, but the stupid thing about it If the criminals are going to put bogus information on there or they're not going to fill it out, it's not going to work. So basically it's punishing small businesses for something that's not going to work. So it's good to look for areas of injustice because that can get almost everybody interested in your topic. And Toastmasters can also help a lot. And right now we have a big opportunity because we have a new Congress. And it's a good time to be telling them very important things that they should be looking at. in our society. So, yeah, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and you nailed it there, Ross, regarding the CTA. And I was talking with somebody about it just last week. She texted me that there's an injunction that's been filed on that, which is a good thing because, as you say, it is so overreaching and it's just really wrong. So thank you, Ross. Ross, I really do appreciate it. Thank you.
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Yep, thanks.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Today is Liberty Toastmasters Day on The Kim Munson Show. We're doing table topics. And that is the portion of the meeting where you have two to three minutes. You can volunteer to just talk basically off the cuff. And you will be given a suggested subject. You can change your mind and talk about something else. But I'm always so interested to hear what Dave Walden has to say. And Dave Walden, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on the courage to influence.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good morning, Kim and Carol, wherever you are.
SPEAKER 20 :
She's going to call in, I think, in just a minute, so that's good.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, it's funny. You bring this up, this subject up, and it was the theme of our last Toastmaster meeting in Longmont last Saturday. And I happened to have been Toastmaster. And I gave a series of little vignettes on the courage to influence. And I focused on the word courage because it is one of the values of character, as I call them, as opposed to, you know, the material values that we all strive to attain and exercise. But it's the values of character that influence the rest of us. When one of us steps forward and displays honorable and virtuous values of character, it gets our attention. And it does so because of another one of my tenets that some of my fellow Toastmasters will remember when I mention it, and that is this. If a picture is worth 1,000 words, as it is often said, an example is worth 10,000. someone demonstrating a profound virtue and doing so dramatically, it sticks with you. You remember it, and it impresses you as little else can. Further, you know, one of the toastmasters in that meeting last week, his speech was about his personal journey with religion. And he stood up in front of the group and gave this superb speech where he described his journey through his mid-years to where he is now. And he did so calmly, matter-of-factly, without any value judgments one way or the other. And the end result was on a subject that it takes courage to talk about because of what it potentially engenders, religion. And so to me, and I applauded him for it because I thought it was an outstanding demonstration of the courage that it takes to try to influence people. And he shared that with us in that speech, and it was pretty effective. I don't know how much time I have left, Kim, but... You've got some time. You know, we're witnessing right now in the Congress or in the federal government as well an opportunity for our leadership to display courage. And it would be courage that would influence us like nothing else. I'll give you a brief illustration. If, for example... President Trump, President-elect Trump, would stand up in front of a press conference with the House leader beside him, J.D. Vance, perhaps McConnell or anyone else that wanted to take the stage with him and simply say, it has become obvious and ought to have become obvious to all of us that in order to get a change to this obscene process we use to finance the government here, we are going to have to, we are going to be forced to shut down the government because the Democrats want to continue to spend money we don't have, and frankly, some of our Republican allies do too. So we are going to stand up and announce that it is our intention in the absence of sound financial budgeting to shut down this government until we get it. That would send shockwaves through the country like nothing else, because they would be standing up and naming the unmentionable. And standing up and saying we are going to do this if we cannot get responsible governance any other way. That's about all I have today. Kim, I want to wish you a Merry Christmas and thank you again for what you do. And I listen intently for what's coming. Thank you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you so much, Dave Walden. And I totally agree with you. And let's see, I guess we let's just do a quick minute with Carol Van. All of a sudden, all kinds of things are happening. We have Carol Van Landingham and Carol Baker. You're in studio. How did you make it here? It was where I was supposed to be. Okay, great to have you here. Carol VanLandingham, your comments on the courage to influence.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hi, Kim. Thank you so much for having us this morning. So I've been reading a book called The Go-Giver, and I wanted to give you a little bit of a perspective from that. So what does it truly mean to influence people? Many people think that it's about power or persuasion or even status. But as a go-giver teaches us, influence doesn't come from what you take. It comes from what you give. Let me share a story in the book. So Joe, who's the main character, is an ambitious go-getter. And he's mentored by a guy named Pindor, who reveals five laws of stratospheric success. One of the laws is the law of influence. And that states that your influence is determined by how abundantly you place other people's interests first. So think about that for a moment, placing other people's interests first. Isn't that counterintuitive in the world? It celebrates individual achievement. It takes courage to step away from self-focus and to say, how can I serve? This principle isn't just theoretical. It's life changing. There's another character in the book, Rachel, and she's struggling as a florist to have a forest in the story. Instead of obsessing about her competition, she focuses on bringing joy to her customers. She connects deeply, she serves selfishly, and she influences profoundly. She blesses everyone around her, and not because she makes profits, but because she prioritized giving. In my own life, I've seen this truth in action. When I stopped focusing on personal gain and I started genuinely helping others, whether in real estate, Toastmasters, or in life, I found something unexpected, a deeper connection, a stronger community, and lasting impact. So I challenge you to ask yourself, how can I courageously influence others by giving today? What small act of generosity can spark a ripple effect of connection and trust. Influence is not about what you demand, it's about what you give. And when you lead with generosity, you don't just make a difference, you become the difference.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you very much, Kim. Carol VanLandingham, thank you so much. And Carol Baker, wrap this up for us.
SPEAKER 27 :
Do you know I can relate to something I've heard from everyone today? Every one of us, though, comes from a little different place in our own personal journeys. Some had something to say. They just needed to know how to present it better to speak publicly. In my case, I came to Toastmasters saying, I already know how to talk. I need to learn how to speak. And, you know, when we can learn how to present our message in a concise way, in a short way, some of us can say, tell our story in 30 minutes. Can you tell it in three? Right. I can relate to any of us having different places in our lives we were at when we came to this. And I have appreciated being able to learn from other people and their journeys, not just from the content of the speeches they make, but to see them develop. And that has been a thrill for me to go watch over two, three, four, five years, some other members as they are developing and what they've done with that. And I think that gives us the courage When it comes time, I want to learn how to speak because one of these days I'm going to have a message. And when I have a message and I will have the courage, I want to have the ability to do it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Carol Baker, thank you so much. And thanks for making it in here to wrap this whole thing up. I so appreciate it already. And our quote for the end of the show is from Ronald Reagan. He said, if we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two. I'm talking about freedom.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa. And all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting greatly appreciate working with such great people. And Joe, Liberty Toastmasters Day is where you always need a couple of sets of extra hands. You did it. It's always interesting. Great job, Joe.
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Thank you. I feel like the Gloria Gaynor song, I Will Survive. That's just what's going on in my head.
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And sneaking in at kind of the last minute is my fellow Liberty Toastmaster, Carol Baker. She's the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. And I always learn so much on Table Topics Day.
SPEAKER 27 :
Well, we do. And we learn a lot in a short time because people are learning how to express their thoughts in a short time, which is what we do in radio.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, and it's so important to be able to make public comments in front of school boards or city council, county commissioners, down at the statehouse. Many times you'll only have two to three minutes, and you have to hit that two or three minutes because they'll shut your mic off. Right. So it is so important. So it's great to have you here. Thanks for being here. Good to be here in the studio. Thanks. And Liberty Toastmasters Denver meets the first and third Saturdays at the Independence Institute. That's right. We're meeting this Saturday. OK. And then Liberty North, the second and fourth Saturdays in Longmont. And my friends, if you're considering, well, you know what? It's not just public office. It is. Do you want to be a better communicator? in your job, with your family, with your friends, well, Liberty Toastmasters can help you do that. And I would say most all Liberty Toastmasters that I know are lifelong learners. They realize they have something to learn. True. And so we'd love to have them join us. So, okay, our word of the day, Carol, is intrepidity. And I think I forgot to spell that. Eric, I'm sorry, I forgot to spell that in the first hour. It's I-N-T-R-E-P-I-D-I-T-Y. It's a noun, and it could be, obviously, the quality or state of being intrepid, fearless, bravery, courage, resoluteness, and courageousness. Such as our intrepid leader. Yeah, well done, well done. And our quote of the day is from Ronald Reagan. And he was our 40th president. He was born in 1911, died in 2004. And he was an important figure in the American conservative movement. And he had been a Democrat. And then he was president of the Screen Actors Guild. And through all that experience, he became a Republican. And when asked why he left the Democrat Party, he said, I didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me. And that was then. Now, when we look at the radical activist extremists that are in control of the Democrat Party, I think that people that just vote party line, whether or not it's Republican or Democrat, you really have to understand, particularly Democrat, this is not the Democrat Party of your grandpa and your grandma. It's something totally different. It is. It's it's socialism itself. headed towards communism right now. And so that's why we need to reclaim our government here.
SPEAKER 27 :
True. I hear young people talk about socially they're conservative or liberal and then fiscally they're conservative or liberal. And I thought, that means you're giving it some thought at all. Thank you.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's a good point. That is a very good point on that. And so Ronald Reagan said this, a nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation. And I chose that particular quote because our featured guest this second hour is Chris Harris. It's very timely. He is a retired Border Patrol agent from the San Diego sector. And so I thought, Ronald Reagan said all of that so long ago. And have you seen the Reagan movie yet? No, I have not, and I would love to. So over Thanksgiving, because I don't really have time to watch many movies. I decided many listeners had said, OK, Kim, you need to watch this movie. So I rented it and I ended up renting it three times. I should have just bought it because there was so much in there and so much that's relevant to today. And he was intrepid as he stood up against communism. He understood that that was such a threat to America. And we are at that doorstep again, Carol Baker.
SPEAKER 27 :
There are some things, once you see it, you see it. And that's something about him is that once he knew he had to take that stand, he did.
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He did. He had to take action. And we have on the line with us Karen Levine. It's her weekly update. You know her. She is an award-winning RE-MAX realtor. And Karen Levine, welcome. Good morning. Good morning. And we had Lauren Levy, everything mortgages on in the first hour. And the Fed reduced interest rates yesterday. The stock market didn't like it. We had tumbled a bit. But I was thinking about... The bond market did? Yeah, I was thinking about you. Is that this is a time where creativity and innovation in buying or selling your home is so important. And that is why working with... you, who has all this experience, is so worth it. Because when interest rates are, they're still stubbornly high, I would say, even with this interest rate cut. And so that's where creativity and innovation needs to step in, in this real estate market, Karen.
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Well, I would agree with that. And if we look at the history of interest rates, they're still not... It's incredibly high for recent history, but the history of my career when I bought my home, interest rates were 12% and 13%. And I did an adjustable rate mortgage at 7.5%, which I thought was amazing. And so that was creativity in the midst of a bit of chaos and uncertainty. And maybe we're in that state today, but one of my – Real estate trainers does a piece called Bold Predictions, and he feels like interest rates are going to hover around six in 2025, probably six and five-eighths, down to five and five-eighths, but up and down, and that we'll see those movements on a more regular basis, like daily potentially, and I remember those days. And we still were able to help people buy and sell homes because... People's lives continue despite interest rates. People get married and have babies and people age out of their homes and need a smaller place or need to move into assisted care and life continues and I'm here to help them as they transition from one chapter of life to the next to get them into housing that is desirable for them, that meets their needs and that brings them joy and builds them prosperity.
SPEAKER 20 :
I love all that. And you've been helping people for many years. And you can help people with obviously selling their home or buying their home or a new build. It's also important to have Karen Levine on your side of the table if you're looking at a new build. And I am seeing some different little developments. So it looks like there may be some housing stock that's new coming onto the market, yes? Yes.
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Yeah, builders have been more consistently active in the marketplace over the past couple years. They know we have an inventory shortage, but they also are a little leery to put too much product out in the market too fast because they were harmed pretty significantly in the Great Recession. But cities... You know, are getting, I hate to say it, getting building permits through that some builders started, oh, a year and a half, 18 months, two years ago. And that's where we go back to the conversation of minimizing policy, stripping away a lot of the restrictions, which increases the cost of things, but also the time of getting things built.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, time is money. And so if people want to sell their home, buy their home, look at a new build, what's that phone number, Karen Levine?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the best number is 303-877-7516. And give me a call and we can start the conversation and see how we can help in your real estate needs.
SPEAKER 20 :
And again, that's Karen Levine, 303-877-7516. And Karen, we prerecorded, or we have one more to do. We're prerecording for next week. We've already done your particular interview, which I love. So we'll talk to you live in a couple of weeks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, after the new year. So happy new year to all of your listeners, and hopefully they'll enjoy our piece next week.
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Yes, and Merry, Merry Christmas, Karen Levine. Thank you. And very excited about this book that we're promoting, Swift Sword. And it is about some Marines, the Marines of Mike 3-5 on 4 September 1967 during the Vietnam War. And Doyle Glass, who is the author. this week has been focusing on a national push to promote the book and then also to make sure that we honor our Vietnam veterans, say thank you and welcome home, because many of them never got that greeting. And so that is, I'm just so delighted. I got the book. I'm going to read it over. uh christmas break but that's why i am so honored to support the usmc memorial foundation and all that they're doing the official marine memorial is right here in golden colorado it is important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom our liberty and so before the end of the year make a donation to the usmc memorial foundation and again i'm so pleased and honored to be promoting swift sword
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The show comes to you because of sponsors, and I so thank the Harris family. for their goal sponsorship of the show. Another sponsor of the show is Liberty Toastmasters. And in studio with me is my buddy, our president, Carol Baker. Well, thank you, Kim.
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This part of the learning experience with Toastmasters is not how to just speak in front of people, but also how to take on a club officer role and actually learn how to do that. So I appreciate those opportunities. Thank you.
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Yeah, it's a leadership opportunity as well. And Thank you, Ben. One of our listeners said, thank you for having Liberty Toastmasters on. This is so eye-opening and inspiring. So way to go. And thank you, Ben, for letting us know about that. Carol, our featured guest in this hour is Chris Harris. He is a... He's a retired Border Patrol agent out of the San Diego sector and really has an understanding of all that is happening here. And I wanted to talk with him, first of all, about Trump's deportation. So, Chris Harris, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim, again. As always, thanks for having me on. And I just want to say I went to Toastmasters through my agency very, very many times to train them.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, I think it's evident. And don't you find it? I really like the speaking component, Chris, but I also have learned so much from the evaluation component. And that is so interacting with family and colleagues. And when I was on city council, I thought that was invaluable as well. Your thoughts?
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Yeah, and I still have all my little blue ribbons. I thought the evaluations were really good. The agency did it, the Border Patrol. They knew I was doing speaking engagements that was pro-Border Patrol and for the union, and they supported me. I found the evaluations very important. I liked when they threw things at you to speak on something just out of the blue and having to go for like a minute on something that you knew nothing about and just basically work your way through it. And I found that was really helpful for me. When I do speaking engagements, Sometimes you forget things, and you'll see people stall and trying to think, and I just move on to something else. You had no idea what I was going to say anyway, so I'll just throw something out there. I can move on. Moving on.
SPEAKER 20 :
I love that. And, Chris, I have all my blue ribbons, too. And I think it's because we're so competitive that if you do win, and these are not participation ribbons. These are for doing something excellent. Your colleagues vote on that. So I have my ribbons as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so I appreciate having you on. I wanted to put that little plug in for Toastmasters. It's well worthwhile. I have nothing, no vested interest. Getting down to the brass tacks now, you wanted to talk about the broken border and deportations where we might go under the incoming, the former president and incoming president, Donald Trump. I have a lot of thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, let's just fasten our seatbelts. What do you have to say?
SPEAKER 11 :
So first you have to have a little context. I see DHS, Department of Homeland Security, says they estimate there's 11 million illegal aliens in this country. And I do use that term. No person is illegal, but their status is illegal. It's actually in the law. So I use the term illegal alien. It doesn't demean anybody. But that's just so incredibly wrong and disingenuous by THS. That number, 11 million, comes from a Pew Research poll done over 10 years ago, and I have it. that said over 10 years ago that there's 11 million in the country illegally. Well, over the last four years, we know the figures show that over 10 million have entered. Border Patrol has its own metrics. I'm going to tell you that before the last four years, we thought there was probably about 20 some to 30 million in this country illegally, either violating the law itself or violating civil code, meaning they came under visa and overstayed. So right now, I'm going to tell you there was probably closer to 40 million people in this country illegally. There is no way you can deport all that. It's not going to happen. Trump does use hyperbole when he speaks. I don't always agree with it, but that's how he is. It could be a little bombastic. I don't like the guy personally, but I supported him and voted for him because I truly think what he did on the border his first time was the best we've ever seen it, and he's going to get us back to it because under this current administration, this is the worst it's ever been. And I know that after 20-some years working on the border as a Border Patrol agent and as a Border Patrol union official. So you're not going to get 40 million people deported. It's physically impossible. Whether you want to do it or not, it's impossible. We're not going to go after people. They're not going to go after people who have been here 30 years, 40 years. They're working hard. They're keeping their nose clean. They're not going to get arrested. Now, there's one caveat for that, and I'll get into that later, which is called collateral damage or collateral arrest. And we used to use that term, and Tom Holman used it recently. So I'll get into that later. But we're not going to go after that one who's working hard. My wife's parents probably came here illegally, rest their souls. They worked their asses off. They wouldn't have been deported. What they're going to go after and what they should and what everybody should support them. I mean, as a union official back up to 2016, I would meet with Democratic senators and Congress people who would say, yeah, Chris, we'll support removing convicted criminal aliens that came here illegally and committed crimes. I don't understand how that flip-flop to people want to defend them and not deport them. So what they're gonna do is go after criminal aliens. And these are people that have been convicted of crimes and have done their sentencing. And we wanna remove them now. And in addition to criminal aliens, we're gonna go after national security risks. And there's a lot of them. And if you like, we have time, we can get into that, some firsthand experiences at military bases when I was a border patrol agent.
SPEAKER 20 :
But for this criminal alien- Yeah, just give us an example or two of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
So one of the things the Border Patrol did when I was working at my station, Imperial Beach Border Patrol Station, San Diego sector, was we had agents tasked to do certain things with the police department when they were still able to work with us, and also military bases. And we have several large military bases out here. One of them, including Naval Air Station North Island, which is on Coronado, is home port to three of our CBNs, our nuclear-powered aircraft carriers. That's a huge chunk of our aircraft carrier fleet. So it's a primary base. It's one of the largest bases for the United States, certainly for the naval bases. So whenever foreign nationals try to access the base, the gate guards, which would be the Department of Defense, police, or military personnel working with MPs or security police or whatnot, would stop them. And if they identified them as being foreign nationals, we were contacted. So I would go out several times I went out. And I'll give you one specific example where we're talking about national security threats. We get there, and they have a vehicle pulled to the side. I get there. There's a vehicle pulled to the side of the road near the gate, and there's five women in it. They're all Chinese nationals. Now, the driver and the passenger were both giggling 20-something-year-olds, and they're pointing and looking around and laughing, and they're trying to say in broken English they got lost. And there's two young women in the back by the windows in their passenger seat in the back, and they're laughing and giggling. Well, because of this, There's certain countries, and I want to get too much details because it's sensitive. But certain countries, we're going to have a little bit added response besides border patrol. So NCIS will send a special agent out. So the NCIS special agent comes out. He's got his biometric devices. We're talking. Now, there's one woman in the back seat in the middle, and she's probably late 40s, early 50s. And she is stone-faced, but she's just quietly watching everything. And we look at each other, the special agent and I, and at the same time, we said she's Chinese intelligence. We knew that. Another instance, we had four Saudi nationals try to get on the base. It's happening more and more. They're probing our bases. We know that they're doing this. They're not all taking wrong turns and passing all the signs. They're trying to access the base, see if they can get in, see what the security protocols are. So that's one level of national security threats. Where we used to have a few hundred Chinese coming in a year, we've had tens of thousands. They just arrested a guy out in the West Coast. FLYING DRONES NEAR ONE OF OUR AIR FORCE, VANDERBURG, I BELIEVE, CRUCIAL SECURITY BASE. THEY DO TESTING THERE. HE WAS FLYING DRONES OVER THE BASE. THEY DID ACTUALLY CATCH HIM. THEY CAUGHT HIM GETTING, ABOUT TO GET ON A PLANE TO FLY BACK TO CHINA. SO THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS ACTUAL REAL VERIFIABLE NATIONAL SECURITY THREATS. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GET INTO POSSIBLE SLEEPER CELLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CAN BE ACTIVATED IF WE GO TO WAR WITH CHINA OR TAIWAN OR THINGS HEED UP WITH RUSSIA, INCLUDING IRAN, NORTH KOREA. We know they exist. So that's in addition to the criminal aliens. And they're going to go for the worst that they can first. They're going to go for the gangbangers. They're going to go for the cartel. Hopefully they'll get down to even low-level criminals because I don't want any criminals here. And I've had people in the past tell me, well, Chris, you know, we have a lot of American criminals. And my response is, yes, we grow enough. We don't have to import more. You think? And if I could deport those Americans, like the British did and sent them all to Australia, I would do that. But legally, we can't deport U.S. citizens. And anybody who tells you on the radio or in the news or the media we're going to deport U.S. citizens is lying. Legally, you cannot. Now, if we're deporting a father and the mother is illegal and the mother is a U.S. citizen that gives U.S. citizens and they choose to go with him, God bless. That's their choice. But we can't force them to go. And that's something that is the media being disingenuous at best. So we're going to deport criminal aliens and gangbangers. I'm going to give you an example, and I always try to use it because you're out there. So Aurora, we have interesting things happening in Aurora again. Now, to their shame, I understand, Aurora, you sit in the glow of Denver, the shadow of Denver. Your mayor's Republican. You're chief of police. WHEN THINGS FIRST BROKE THERE WITH TRENDA ARAGUA, TDA, WHICH IS A VERY VIOLENT VENEZUELAN GAME, ACTIVE IN MORE THAN 17 STATES NOW, INVOLVED IN SOME HIGH-PROFILE MURDERS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THEM. IT'S IN THE NEWS THAT THE NURSE DOWN IN GEORGIA AND ALL THAT, THEY TOOK OVER SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES. ONE OF THEM WAS THE EDGE OF LOWERY AND ANOTHER ONE. I ACTUALLY READ A REPORT ABOUT IT. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST TIME I WAS ON. So your governor, Polis, who's a Democrat, the mayor of Denver, Mike Johnson, a Democrat, said it's not happening. It's not true. And then, unfortunately, your mayor and police chief kind of kowtowed to them and said, well, it's not really happening. Well, it was. There was video that was released. And recently you had a home or apartment invasion in that edge of Lowry in Aurora. They grabbed a couple of men and women who were migrants, probably here illegally also, and they prey on each other. They took them to another apartment, beat them, or tied them up, beat them, tortured them. There were pretty credible reports that they pulled the fingernails off the woman. Your own chief of police has said he considers it torture, what was done to them. He said he used the word torture. They were released by these gangbangers, the TDA. And people are trying to walk around saying they're TDA. ISIS just said that, come out, said, yes, we believe they're TDA. They're certainly Venezuelan illegals. So they arrested, the number's now up to 14. I'm hearing that maybe even 16 have been arrested. Tom Holman has spoken about it, and he called out your chief of police, who seems to be trying to do the best he can, and said, contact us. We'll get rid of them after you charge them.
SPEAKER 20 :
And in chief of police, you're talking about Aurora, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Todd Chamberlain. Yes, Chief Chamberlain. He has been mostly transparent on this one. He doesn't use the term Trender Agua. I think he specifically does not want to use that term. But he does say, you know, gang. But now ICE is saying they believe that's being TDA and certainly that they're illegal Venezuelan immigrants that committed this crime. So they arrested 14 of them.
SPEAKER 20 :
OK, it's just a comment because I did serve on city council and I learned this is your police chiefs are it's more political regarding police chiefs because they are hired by city council and the mayor. So they they're kind of watch walking a political tightrope. because if they say the wrong thing, they could get fired by the city council and the mayor. Your sheriff's people, and I would say they have more freedom as they uphold the law, that they're not constrained so much by politics. And Chris, you're in that field. Would that be a correct assessment?
SPEAKER 11 :
I was going to mention that. You nailed it on the head. It's exactly right. So I'll give you a perfect example. Several years ago, my partner and I were representing the Border Patrol for a funeral for a fallen police officer. You know, we wear our dress uniforms, clean up our vehicle and go. And we met the sheriff up there. I want to say Orange County, but I forget exactly. And he stopped with us. There was a traffic jam. He was actually helping us get through it with his little motorcade. trying to get to where there was a staging area for the police vehicles. You've seen those mile-long processions. And he got out of his vehicle while they were clearing the way, and he had some pictures taken with us, and he was very pro-Border Patrol, very pro-securing the border. He said because that's less crime for him if the border's secure. Well, he's now been voted in as the—selected for the chief of police for LAPD. Total 180. He's not going to work with Border Patrol or ICE. He's going to help defend illegals. Because he's got to say that. I mean, I'd say that. Do you really want to sell your soul for that job? And I'm disappointed in him if he hears this, that you were pretty high up. You were a sheriff. Do you really feel the need to sell your soul to be chief of police of LAPD? Apparently he does. So he's done 180 because they can fire him. And we've seen that in liberal cities where the police chiefs, will throw their own rank and file under the bus because they know that's their political survival. So you hit it on the head 180, you know, 100%. I don't know what your sheriff is like there because he could be very liberal too because if the voting constituency is very liberal, that's, you know, they're going to vote somebody in who's liberal. But you do have a lot more leeway as a sheriff. Actually, you are the lead law enforcement officer in a county by statute. So I don't know how your sheriff is in Denver or Denver County or whatever, but the chief of police in Denver is certainly going to be very liberal. And even though your mayor in Aurora is Republican, I think he's getting a lot of pressure from Denver and from the governor. And so that's going to trickle down onto your chief of police, who, again, has been fairly transparent on this, but he refuses to use the words, you know, trendy Aragua, even though ICE is now saying, yes, we believe that they're trendy Aragua. You know, it's not hard to decide that when you know that they're Venezuelan illegals. So that's happening in Aurora. We have a family member that's stationed out there in one of the military branches there. We've talked about this before. So if you don't mind, I'd like to always bring up your stuff locally. But if you want to talk more about the deportations or anything you want to talk about, we can go there.
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of the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for a weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And I did want to mention the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. Everything is getting so expensive. and reach out to them for a complimentary appointment. If you bundle your insurance coverage together, you might be able to save yourself some money. They carry my home and auto, and I can sleep a little better at night knowing that the Roger Mangan team is there. That number is 303-795-8855. Carol Baker is in studio with me. She is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. And this is so fascinating with Chris Harris, who is a former or excuse me, a retired Border Patrol agent out of the San Diego sector. And Carol mentioned to me during break, it's so interesting. to get your perspective outside of this Denver Aurora metro area, so nationally looking in. And it was very brave, I think. She was very intrepid, I will use the word of the day. Danielle Jurinsky, city councilwoman in Aurora, who felt from a human standpoint she needed to shed light on what was happening with these apartment buildings that were being overrun and just the sheer... terror of the people that were living there. And that was quite a move on her part, Chris Harris.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know what? Just before you preempted me on that, and kudos, I was going to mention her for a shout-out, that she seemed to have had her constituents came to her, said they were reporting this to various government organizations, including the governor's office, and they were just being ignored or told it's not happening. This administration... You know, on down seems to be really big on gaslighting the American public. This inflation now, what you're paying, you're not really paying that. This crime you're seeing on the street, the homeless, you're not really seeing that. And so she spoke out about it. I want to use that to segue to your Denver mayor and then use that to segue back to deportations. Denver Mayor Mike Johnson. So it's okay if mayors of cities or county government or state government, if they don't want to assist Border Patrol ICE, they don't have to. Legally, they don't have to. They don't have to be immigration officers. They don't have to assist. I think it's foolish, but that's fine. But he's actually going off the rails and is saying that he's going to have Denver PD resist actively resist ICE. So what is that going to look like? So ICE is going to show up and Denver PD is going to be ordered to arrest them, shoot them. That's criminal. And if he orders others to do it, and Tom Holman says he wants to be arrested, I'll help be arrested. If he orders others to do it, then he falls under RICO for influencing and all that. And bad things can happen. You might think that he's not touchable, but if he wants to go down that route, He will be arrested if they have to bring in deputy U.S. marshals and ICE officers and Border Patrol officers and National Park Service officers and whoever else they want to bring in U.S. government down. They will get him, and they will bring him to a U.S. attorney's office that will prosecute him. And so that's off the rails. Most people on the left are saying, well, we're just not going to assist, pass the resistance. We just won't help it. He said, we're going to actively resist. I'm going to order Denver PD to resist them. That's crazy. That is so off the deep end that I'm going to use law enforcement officers against law enforcement officers. So I know Denver is very liberal now, but you might want to think twice about this guy if you live in that area. He's already voted to cut your fire department and your police department. You guys seem okay with that, to give money to illegal aliens. But he's now saying he's going to use your police department, not to fight crime, but to fight lawful orders from the federal government. And I'm not for federal overreach, but the courts have ruled that we have the right, the federal government has the right to enforce immigration laws. And if you don't want to help out, that's okay. but you can't actively resist. To me, that's insane.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is crazyville out here, I think, what you're talking about, Chris Harris. And he said that, then he walked this back, I think, regarding the police department actively preventing ICE from coming in and these federal agents. But then what he said is, he said, we're going to have citizens that are going to be at the border. 50,000 women. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fifty thousand of these Heights women or whatever, Highland women, whatever that means. I don't live out there, so I don't know what the Highlands are. But he said he'd have fifty thousand of them. OK, then they'll get arrested, too. And not all fifty thousand, but they'll start arresting the ringleaders. It just it's insane. Look, even the mayor of New York City is fed up and he's met with Tom Holman. And that's going to let me segue into the deportations again. And the thing that I mentioned, which is collateral arrest or collateral, we used to call it collateral damage. So what that means is we have a target for somebody. We might have a warrant or an administrative order that somebody's here illegally that we want. And usually they're a criminal. And quite often we're getting them on something illegal, immigration, when, yeah, they're a drug dealer, but it's just going to be real difficult for us to prove that. So we're just going to target them as being here illegally and so on and so forth. So we go for them. But if there's people that interfere or get involved or are in the apartment with them or the house with them, they're going to be all sitting on the ground in handcuffs while they figure out who's who. And if it turns out you're illegal, well, then you're going to go if we want you to go. So we were ordered for quite a while under Obama to avoid all collateral damage, all collateral arrests. No matter if you went to an apartment house with a warrant and you got a guy, a drug dealer, and you're arresting him for that and for it being illegal. Everybody in that apartment, even if they're all legal, you didn't take them. Okay, I don't like it, but that's fine. What Tom Holman has said, okay, you don't want us to be in your prisons or jails. Like Rikers Island, that's New York City's corrections jail system, they used to have an ICE office there. So before a guy was released, they checked his status, and if he was wanted by ICE on the detainer, they took him right then and there. Well, under the previous de Blasio, they closed it down. And New York State has sanctuary laws now, as California does. So the sheriffs and the police department, they cannot notify ICE when they're going to release a convicted criminal, where they could be waiting for him. They just hand him over, and it's safe. The guy is coming out of jail, so he's not armed. They used to arrest people in courts. Again, it's safe. The guy's going through a metal detector. He appeared in court. ICE would be notified, and they would hook him up. So what these sanctuary states and cities are doing is saying, we're not going to assist. What Tom Holman has said, and I've met Tom, and he's a former Border Patrol agent, a lot of respect for that, of course. He said, well, we're going to have to go in your neighborhood, and we'll have to get warrants to go to your houses and apartments, and there will be a lot of collateral arrests. So if I was an illegal immigrant, an illegal alien living in this country, and I'm keeping my nose clean, I would rather you go and get these bad guys at the jails, at the prison, at the courthouses. then come into my neighborhood. Or I don't know, hey, this is my cousin and she's picking me up and she's got a guy in the car. I don't know, but she's giving me a ride. I'm Joe, you know, illegal, but I'm obeying the law. I've been here for 20 years. And they take the car down and I'm in the car and they're checking us all, running us all. Oops, it comes out I'm illegal. And now I'm going too. I'd rather you didn't do that. So if I was here illegally and I've been here for a while and I'm obeying the laws, I would tell my people that are supposedly representing me, the ones that want to use the term Latinx, which my wife, who's from Mexico, laughs about. I would tell those people, stop representing me because you're not doing a good job. I don't want them coming into my neighborhoods. I don't want them arresting these guys on the street where I might be walking next to him and I get held and detained and, oops, turns out I'm illegal. They come to my friend's apartment because they're looking for someone, they have a warrant, and I happen to be there. Oops, I'm going now. You know, just go get those bad guys at the prisons, the jails, and the courthouses. So Tom Herman's very clear. You want to play that game. there's going to be a lot of collateral arrests. So that is the caveat I mentioned earlier, where if you're here, you're illegal, and you're minding your own business, minding your P's and Q's, you're going to be safe, again, unless you're part of collateral arrests. So you want to play that game in sanctuary cities and states, then they will start taking people down around you, running our system checks, and if it comes back derogatory, you're here illegally, you're going to.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Our text line is 720-605-0647. That's 720-605-0647. We are taking—Chris has agreed to take call-ins as well. And that is Chris Harris. He is a retired Border Patrol agent out of the San Diego sector. Carol Baker is in studio with me. She is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. And, Chris, this came in from one of our listeners. She said this— Good morning, Kim. Listening to your guests talking about the border, it is unacceptable to only deport people who are committing crimes that have broken into our country over the last several years. People who have broken into our country illegally must be deported or we are not going to have a country anymore. All you have to do is divide 40 million figure into our population and that tells you they must go back to their country of origin. Anything less is absolutely unacceptable. We must return as many as humanly possible to reclaim our country and our heritage. We're supposed to be a melting pot with a balanced number of people coming from all over the world, not just one sector. Very thoughtful response. What would you say to that, Chris?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, yeah, I agree with her on a lot of levels. I'm not disagreeing with that. And we noticed that there's about 100, they're coming from 170 countries. So a couple of things on that. One, it's just physicality. Is it physically possible to do that? No, we don't have the resources. We don't have the manpower, but we just can't. The second thing is you have to get some of these countries to take their people back. And some are refusing to do so. And I'll use that as well. They're emptying their prisons, getting rid of their criminals. They're people that have mental health issues. So Venezuela refuses to take their deportees back. Trump will deal with them, and I'm sure he's going to use the carrot and the big stick. So that's a problem. Some countries won't take their people back, and we have to figure out how to do that. The other thing, again, is just the physicality. I will say that in addition to criminal aliens and national security risks and threats, We probably will do something where the last in are going to be the first to go, because that has the most impact and deterrence. And so they're coming from 170 countries. It's not just Central America. 170 countries around the world, people are coming here claiming asylum. And you can't see me doing finger quotes, but that's what I'm doing. And asylum was, they were told by this administration that they're coming here legally. So that's a little problematic. And we're going to have to do the, go back to the remain in Mexico, technically with the migrant protection protocols that Trump had, that Biden undid on his first day with an executive order. Again, we can go after the first, the last in, and the first should be the first out. Because again, the best determined value, if you're down in say Guatemala, and you have a friend or a relative that just flipped into the United States or claimed asylum was let in, and the next week you see them back already after paying $10,000 to a coyote, to a smuggling organization, that has a lot of deterrent value. So they're going to do that. There are going to be people who have been here for 40 years illegally, and that we're going to have to ask them. discussions way down the road because we're never going to get to them anytime soon because again let's use that number 40 million let's use 35 million um you just you can't if we get one million out in the next four years i'll be both thrilled so in a perfect world yes we can remove almost everybody that's here illegally and shouldn't be here um and i you know a lot of people are here because of these overstays and that was a blue ribbon panel at the 9 11 BIPARTISAN, LOOKED INTO IT, AND THESE GUYS THAT COMMITTED THE CRIME WERE VISA OVERSTAYS. THEY DIDN'T JUMP THE FENCE. THEY CAME HERE ON A VISA, AND THEY CAME HERE FRAUDULENTLY OR THEY OVERSTAYED THEIR VISA. THAT ACTUALLY BOTHERS ME MORE THAN SOMEBODY JUMPING THE FENCE. SOMEBODY JUMPING THE FENCE, THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE AN HONESTY, YES, I'M TRASHPASSING, I'M BREAKING INTO YOUR COUNTRY. SOMEBODY THAT COMES HERE ON A VISA, THEY SIGN ALL THE PAPERWORK SAYING, I'M GOING TO ABIDE BY THAT. SO THAT'S LIKE YOU LET A GUEST IN YOUR HOUSE AND HE WON'T LEAVE. BUT IT'S ONLY A CIVIL OFFENSE. SO CONGRESS NEEDS to make it easier to deter them and remove them. I agree with her on an esoteric higher level, but realistically, it's not physically impossible. Whether you want to do it or not, there's not enough ICE agents, there's not enough Border Patrol agents, there's not enough detention officers, there's not enough detention space, there's not enough immigration judges, there's not enough assisting U.S. attorneys. We need more assisting U.S. attorneys to prosecute these cases, the actual criminal-criminal immigration cases, which would be AUSC 1324 smuggling, AUSC 1326 reentry after deport, all felonies. They're not prosecuted because there's not enough assisting U.S. attorneys. So I might wish that we can get rid of most of them. That's not going to happen, whether you want to or not. Physicality, the laws of physics, whatever you want to call it, will not allow it to happen.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Okay. We've got a lot lined up here. So, Carol, let's get to you, and then we'll get to Ron on the line.
SPEAKER 27 :
Do you know, I think between what the texter said and what he said, Kim, I believe I heard important and urgent. So it doesn't mean something that important isn't important. Maybe the other is just more urgent. Okay. Once we take care of that, we can get to the important.
SPEAKER 20 :
Good point. Good point, Carol Baker. Ron is on the line. Ron, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 07 :
Great show and very informative. Thank you. I was just – I've seen some – there were motion sensors going off in the Canada, Alaskan area that they had – you could see that they're Muslim people. coming over the border, and I was just wondering what they're doing about that, or can do.
SPEAKER 20 :
I hadn't thought about Canada and Alaska, Chris Harris. I have. Okay, so what do you have to say on that?
SPEAKER 11 :
So the northern border has typically always been undermanned because the south and southwest borders are where most of the action is. It's worse now because they've had to pull people. I have a friend who's a supervisor up there. He got pulled down. He gets periodically pulled down to the southern border for six weeks or two-month periods of time because we're so overwhelmed on the southern border. So the northern border is getting worse. The numbers are skyrocketing. Trump has just called out Trudeau on that. If you don't tighten it up, the illegals coming through that you let into your country and that are coming into our country in defense and all, I'm going to slap a 25% tariff on your goods. Yay. There's all kinds of people coming across the northern border, but predominantly numbers show that it's Chinese and Indians. I mean, they're coming from all over the world. So they fly into Canada, Canada lets them in, and they cross the border. They walk across. It's basically unguarded in huge areas. So he's right. And hopefully Trump will use the stick in this case with Canada, with Trudeau, whoever the next prime minister, hopefully, and say, you guys need to do tightening up on your own to help us protect ourselves. And we'll work with you on that. We need to hire more border relations. We are grossly. understand the number. We're probably about 2,500 below the statutory minimum. Congress set a minimum by law, and we're like 2,500 below that. So you need those things. We need more Border Patrol agents. If we can start securing the southwest border, we can stop pulling people off the northern border. So it's a cycle up. So it's doable, it's solvable, but we need to do several things, and I think we're gonna do that under this administration. But yes, the northern border is a threat to us.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, couple of minutes. This came in on the text line. Can the Border Patrol deputize citizens to help, and can there be an ICE hotline that citizens can call since our police department, where they live, is doing nothing? Your comments on that, Chris Harris.
SPEAKER 11 :
So yeah, we're never gonna deputize U.S. citizens to enforce the law for us. We always used to have an ICE hotline. Border Patrol had a hotline. So they might be nonexistent now under this administration. They might have curtailed that. They don't want people calling in and saying, hey. I used to be a cop before I was a Border Patrol agent. I was a police officer in New York. It's very discouraging to me to see that police departments that rank and file are being ordered not to assist, either ordered or by law. In California, it's illegal for them to assist the Border Patrol. So I understand the discouragement there, but... They can go online and see if there's any lines still in existence. But right now, ICE isn't really going to do anything. If they can find a number when Trump's in office, then they might see people respond and try to address these issues.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay. Chris Harris, this has been such great information. We didn't even get to some of the other things that you and I were going to talk about. Well, there's only so many minutes in this. We'll get you back in January. What's your final thought to the American people, Chris Harris?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's twofold. So whether you don't like Trump or not, I don't like him, but don't let your, if you hate him, stop from looking, pulling up your big boy pants and using your critical thinking skills and say, this is bad. I mean, people are going crazy about lack of housing and the prices. Well, there's only finite houses, amount of houses in the U.S. When you add 30 million people to it, that's going to make it go up because people want houses and housing. So look at what Trump is going to do. And ask yourself, when you hear all these crazy things that, oh, he might do this, he might do that, think about this. He already was president for four years. Did he do that? Did he set up concentration camps? And then also look through his hyperbole and just say, look at what he's going to do, what he did before, and say, is that the best interest for the United States of America as a constitutional republic? Is it in the best interest for my family's safety and security and for economics? And ask yourself that and get away from any hatred for him And don't be scared what the media is telling you that doom and gloom, concentration camps, deporting American citizens, deporting you if your skin color is not lily white, not happening. Rest assured on that and hope for a brand new day of securing our border and protecting the people that live in this country and this country.
SPEAKER 20 :
Chris Harris, thank you so much. Well said. Really appreciate it. Carol Baker, thank you for being in studio. Thanks. Good to be here. Great to have you. Our quote for the end of the show is from Ronald Reagan. He said, if we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you're not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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Suffering is a form of teaching by God. Sometimes it takes suffering to motivate us to seek answers. “Affliction is good that I might learn Your statutes (the Word of God)" (Psalm 119:71). Learn God’s plan for your life and you will persevere through adversity (Romans 5:3). God loves you. He will take care of you! “Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or trouble, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?” (Romans 8:35)
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Testing Through Suffering
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 614 aired on June 14, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes I'd like to ask you to listen up, stay with me, pay attention. The next few minutes are
designed for some inspiration, some education, some motivation, and we do this without any
type of manipulation because we don't try to manipulate people. We’re not trying to con anyone.
We’re just here to give you some accurate information, information that is designed to help you
verify and identify the plan of God for your life. If you can do this, you have the freedom and the
privacy to orient and adjust to the plan, that's always up to you. Our radio show is predicated
upon teaching God's Word. What we’re looking for are hungry people that want to learn God's
Word, people that have what I call positive volition, not the nod to God crowd. They’re easy to
find, “Hello God. Goodbye God. See you next Sunday God.” But people that have a hunger, an
intense hunger, the Bible says,
“Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth,”
that’s what I'm looking for is this
sort of person. A person that's willing to sit down under the authority of a well-qualified pastor, a
person who is willing to listen to that pastor teach God's Word to them on a daily basis. That's the
kind of person that will grow to be a mature believer and become part of what we call the pivot,
the core group of mature believers that will deliver a nation. If there's ever a time we must have a
pivot in America, it’s today. There are many believers in America but I'm not saying that all
believers have positive volition. All believers are not hungry for God's Word. There is a passage
in Hebrews 5 that says,
“There are a lot of things I’d like to teach you but I can't because you're
rather dull of hearing,”
and on more than one occasion I've seen people that are genuinely saved
and genuinely on their way to heaven, but genuinely not interested in doing too much studying.
They are comfortable with their life, they’re comfortable with the way things are, and they are
just not interested in any additional or extra time studying. I don't know about you but I like to
grow. I like to be the best at what I can be. I don't like to be second-place. I was an athlete, not
anymore, I’m older. I never liked to lose and never liked to come in second-place. As a believer I
do want to hear my Father say,
“Well done My good and My faithful servant.”
That's why I think
it's necessary for me to study, for me to sit under a pastor that teaches me God's Word so I can
learn it and apply it into my life, so I can replicate the life of Christ and effectively re-present
Him to my generation. Today on The FLOT Line we’re going to study something that you may
or may not want to listen to. We’re going to study suffering.
In Psalm 119:71,
“It is good that I
have been afflicted in order that I may learn Thy statutes.”
So here we find a motivation to
learn God's Word that you don't find any other place.
This may be what it takes to motivate
you.
It may take suffering in your life to motivate you to seek answers.
You may be going
through a particular type of suffering this very moment and we will outline what some of these
are. If you're going through suffering, if you're having adversity in your life, you must ask
yourself the question, why is this happening to me? Remember, adversity is inevitable. Stress is
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optional.
Adversity is what circumstances do to you and stress is what you do yourself.
Remember this. The word to be afflicted, the psalmist wrote,
“It is good that I have been
afflicted,
[it's good, not bad]
so that,
[in order that, purpose clause here]
I may learn Thy Word,”
Thy statutes. The word afflicted is the Hebrew word
ana
and it simply means to be oppressed, to
become low, to be humbled, and it’s suffering. Suffering is a form of teaching by God. This is
one of the ways that God teaches us. Now for the unbeliever who rejects any claim that God may
have on his life we find these words about suffering in Psalm 107:17,
“Fools because of their
transgressions and because of their iniquities are afflicted,”
they suffer. For the believer who
goes through suffering we find these words, Philippians 1:29,
“For unto you it is given on the
behalf of Jesus Christ, not only to believe in Him
[which you may have done, I pray that you
have]
but also to suffer for His sake.”
To suffer,
pascho,
like the paschal (Passover) lamb that
suffered, the lamb that was slain by the priest and the blood sprinkled upon the altar, typifying
Jesus Christ our Lord, the Paschal Lamb who suffered for us so we could be saved. Suffering is
given on behalf of Christ not only to believe on Him but to suffer for His sake.
The disciples
learned this lesson really early on. In Matthew 16:21,
“From that time forth, Jesus began to show
unto His disciples how He must go into Jerusalem and suffer
[
pascho
]
many things of the elders
and the chief priests and the scribes and even be killed and raised again the third day.”
Thank
God that happened. Without the death, burial and the resurrection of Jesus Christ the anointed
Son of God we would have no hope after death. The Bible says death has no victory, it has no
sting.
We are guaranteed a resurrection just like Jesus Christ Himself was resurrected. In
Philippians 1:29,
“For unto you
[believers, church at Philippi Paul wrote]
it is given on behalf of
Christ not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His sake.”
Now what causes us to suffer?
That's the first question. If you are enduring suffering today, what causes this?
The number one
thing that causes suffering in our life is our bad decisions.
You may have heard me say, “Bad
decisions limit future options.”
Bad decisions limit future options.
Most of our suffering that
we go through is sourced from our own negative volition and it brings divine discipline into our
life. Or we can suffer just from wasting time and the bad effects from getting out of God's plan
for our life. Sometimes we suffer not because of sin, but simply because of some stupidity,
simply because we do a right thing in a wrong way or we get out of line or get out of step with
God. We’re not necessarily committing a sin of the tongue or an overt sin but we've run ahead of
God or we’ve gotten behind God and we’re not in the best shape or the best situation. Through
suffering God allows us to wake up and see what's going on.
This is suffering from divine
discipline and is God's mercy to wake us up.
When you and I suffer because of sin, it is God's
mercy to wake us up from our error. Most believers who completely destroy their lives never
even realize what is going on. Unfortunately, I have seen it. I have seen born-again believers who
no doubt about it were saved and they were suffering and they died. They never recognized what
it was. They never recognized it was the grace of God calling them to repent, to change their
mind, to get back into fellowship with Him. They continued on down the My Way Highway until
eventually they died. Suffering is designed to wake you up.
Suffering is a teaching aid.
God
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does not take pleasure in making you suffer. He takes pleasure in seeing you glorify Him. The
Bible says in Hebrews 12:6,
“Those whom the Lord loves He chastens
[or He disciplines]
and He
scourges
[that's to discipline severely]
every son that He receives.”
If you endure chastening then
God deals with you as with a son. “
For what son is he whom the father does not discipline? But
if you do not have any discipline where of all others partake, then you are a bastard and not a
son.
[that's from the Bible, not me]
Furthermore, we've had fathers of our flesh which corrected
us and we gave them reverence. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits
and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure, but He for our
profit that we might be partakers of His holiness.”
Warning discipline, stage one of God’s
discipline, God will warn you. He will warn you when you're out of fellowship and fail to
confess your sin.
He will warn you when you make a wrong turn and decide to go down the My
Way Highway, when you get distracted and go off in the direction you don't need to go. This
happens all the time with Christians in business and Christians in some sort of a hobby. I've seen
this happen many times. People that genuinely have a spiritual gift and don't use it, they wind up
chasing their dream. That's the biggest lie that's ever come down the pipe, chasing your dream as
if your dream is going to make you happy, when the Bible says God has so much more for you
than any dream you could ever imagine. You cannot even imagine the happiness you could have
if you would fulfill God's plan for your life rather than chasing some silly dream where you think
that fame or money is going to make you happy and you’re dead wrong.
You will be warned by
God, He will warn you and this doesn't always hurt. Sometimes this is Scripture.
S
ometimes this is listening to a preacher.
It may be reading a book or seeing a sign on the side
of the road but God will get your attention. Like maybe this radio show, maybe this is designed
to get your attention so you will know why you suffer. The second type of suffering is intense
discipline. This is stage two of God’s discipline.
In intense discipline God scourges us.
He
takes us out behind the woodshed and gives us an attitude adjustment. This has pain.
This
is how God gets your attention. There is a time in your life when God will put you on your back
under divine discipline in order to wake you up, in order to save you before you destroy yourself
and other people along with you. There are some of you listening to me right now incarcerated
and you know this. You heard it a long time ago and yet you wouldn't respond. You continued a
lifestyle of sin and corruption and look where you are. If you had just listened to God when He
tried to warn you many years ago, but in your negative volition and in your own arrogance you
justified why it was okay to do what you're doing and look what happened. That’s not God's plan
for you, never was God's plan for you and yet that's where we wind up sometimes. The Bible
warns us about intense discipline, pain and suffering. Then there's dying discipline.
Dying
discipline is when God actually physically removes someone and takes them on to heaven.
In 1 Corinthians 5:1-5,
“It is reported that commonly there is fornication among you and such
fornication
[Paul writes to the church at Corinth]
as is not even named among the Gentiles, that
one should have his father's wife.”
Does this sound like some soap opera in the church in
Corinth? There was fornicating going on, that someone in the church was fornicating with his
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father's wife or his stepmother.
“And you're puffed up and have not rather mourned, that he that
did this deed might be taken away from among you.
[Listen to what Paul does now, here is dying
discipline]
For I verily, as absent in body but present in spirit, have judged already as though I
were present concerning the one that did this deed.
[This is the authority that the apostle had, so
he said]
I have judged already concerning the one who has done this deed in the name of our
Lord Jesus Christ, when you're gathered together and in my spirit, with the power of the Lord
Jesus Christ to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh.”
Now you may think
that's the end of it. You may think, “Well, he's going to hell.” That's not what it says. It says as I
continue the verse,
“So that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.”
Yes, he's going to die
but he's going to go to heaven. His spirit will be saved. Christians can die the sin unto death.
They can completely destroy any opportunity they have to live a normal life and God has to take
them home. It could be happening even to you. You cannot afford to play games with God. We
cannot afford to trifle with God's will in our life. Have you gotten out of the will of God? Have
you walked away from God's plan for your life? Have you allowed sin to completely cover you
and have you not confessed this sin? Are you wondering why you're going through difficulty and
problems and the adversity? Are you on your way out? You may be, it may be time to listen to
someone. Some of these folks that I've seen in this have never asked me, “Do you think God is
disciplining me Rick? Do you think that?” They never asked me this but in my soul I could see
it. I knew what was going on and it may be exactly what's going on in your life too. You got
saved a long time ago. You believed in Jesus Christ but you haven't grown. You haven't pursued
God's plan for your life. You've been out of fellowship so long you don't get any answers to your
prayer. You don't even feel close to God anymore. As a matter fact sometimes you even begin to
doubt that He really exists anymore. It is time for you to recover. It is time for you to wake up. It
is time for you to get back before you're no longer here. I'm telling you,
there is a sin unto
death,
“In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, when you're gathered together and with my spirit
to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of his flesh.”
Remember that verse back in
Hebrew that says don't forget,
“Furthermore, we've had fathers of our flesh which disciplined us
and we gave them reverence, shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits
and live.”
Proverbs 15:10 says,
“He that hates the reproof of God shall die.”
When God puts
you under misery, when God puts you under intense discipline, you can respond by
confessing your sin or you can react by getting angry at God.
You can be angry at the church.
You can be angry at the church members. You can be angry at the preacher. You react and when
you react Satan applauds because it just drives you further and further away from any hope of
you ever having a normal, productive, mature spiritual life.
To learn humility we’re often put
in circumstances that are unfair, that's not unusual.
You'll see this here in a minute and
it's
designed to refine us.
It’s designed to purge us. It’s really the only way that God can do it. He
tests us under a heavy load. You know, I have friends that serve in the military, friends that are
Navy SEALs, friends that are Green Berets and have been Army Rangers, they all went through
severe testing in order to get the Ranger tab, the Seal Trident or some other designation. If you
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don't go through that testing, if you don't go that purging, because it's designed to weed out those
that can’t handle it, this is what God is doing. God will weed out some people because they can't
handle it, because they can't leave their sin alone, because they can't get over the fact that
happiness is not found in the details of life. You think you could be more happy if you were
comfortable or had more money or you could be more successful if you knew the right people.
See, these are all details of life and suffering is designed to weed this sort of thinking out, to get
you to a source of humility to where you now understand that only God can provide what you're
looking for. You are indeed in a war, there’s no doubt about this spiritually speaking. Paul even
uses a military illustration in Ephesians 6:11-17 that compares us to a Roman soldier. It talks
about us putting on
“The armor of God so we can stand against the strategy of the devil.”
Yes,
we have to
“pick up the shield of faith,” “the helmet of salvation,” “the breastplate of
righteousness,” “the sword of the Spirit,” “feet shod with the gospel.”
This is all an analogy of a
Roman soldier. The shield of faith is essential for you. If you don't pick up the shield of faith or
learn how to use the faith-rest drill, problem-solving device number three in your FLOT line, if
you don't learn how to use it, you’re never going to be able to ward off the attacks of Satan. You
must learn how to use this. You must
“put on the helmet of salvation.”
You must have eternal
security because this is the first thing that Satan is going to attack, your mind. He's going to
cause you to doubt and even fear that you’re even saved. You’re never going to grow as long as
you doubt and fear you're not even saved. People ask me this question all the time. “I think I
might not be saved,” and they've accepted Christ. They prayed and asked God to save them but
they don't feel it and so they’ve fallen into this trap of emotionalism. Paul warns them
“put on
the helmet of salvation,” “pick up the shield of faith.” “put on the breastplate of righteousness,”
“stand firm.”
Be ready, you are at war with Satan, there is no doubt about it. Then Paul goes on
to say in
Romans 5:3,
“And not only so but that we glory in our tribulation, knowing that
tribulation produces patience.”
We glory in our testing, in our trials, in our tribulations. In other
words, Paul says he's recognizing, “This was for my good. This was to teach me something.” Our
Lord Jesus Christ essentially tells you to enjoy the testing that you are going to endure, to just
enjoy it. Go ahead and enjoy this testing. He said these words,
“These things I have spoken unto
you that believe in Me. I've spoken unto you, that in Me you might have peace. In the world
you're going to have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
Here's a
warning He gave the disciples, “I taught you this, that in Me you can have peace but in the
world, you're going to have testing. You’re going to have trials. You're going to have tribulation,
but shake it off. Be of good cheer. I overcame the world.” There are two ways to live. You can
live in fellowship with God and in Christ or you can live out of fellowship with God, under
control of your sin nature. Both of them are sources of fulfillment in your life. If you are looking
to be fulfilled from the world, you're never going to have any peace, but if you are being fulfilled
from the force of Jesus Christ in you, you will have peace. You'll have a phenomenal lifestyle
and the Bible is clear about this. As Jesus said, listen again,
“These things I spoke unto you, that
in Me you might have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. Be of good cheer, I have
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overcome the world.”
This word tribulation is an original Greek word called
thlipsis.
It's a
metaphor for oppression or distress or tough times. Any believer living in the devil's world is
going to have a tough time because you're not from this world. You don't even belong here. Your
home is in heaven. Philippians 3:20,
“Our citizenship
[our
politeuma
the Greek word says]
our
citizenship is in
ouranos
[or heaven]
from which also we eagerly await a Savior, the Lord Jesus
Christ.”
What do you expect you're going to get in a world that you don't belong in? This is not
your home and if you put all of your happiness and all of your security and all of your hope in
this world, you’re going to be let down.
Regardless of what you endure, there's confidence in
our Savior's love and our Savior’s support. He will not abandon you.
He will not bow out on
you. Listen to Romans 8:35.
“Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or
distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?”
Who’s going to separate
you from the love of Christ? Hardship, tribulation, this won't do it. Distress, the Greek word
stenochoria
means to be in a very narrow passage with no way out. Persecution, that's the other
word persecution,
diogmos,
it means to give chase or to pursue someone chasing you or pursuing
you. Famine, hunger, nakedness,
gymnotes,
means having no clothes.
“Who can separate us from
the love of Christ?”
Shall tribulation, hardships, shall distress, being in a narrow passage with no
way out? Shall persecution, people that chase us, shall famine, no food, shall nakedness or even
peril, and that’s the word dangers, can this separate us from the love of God? Paul wrote in 2
Corinthians 11:26 about the perils he faced.
“In journeying often I was in perils of waters, in
perils of robbers, in perils by my own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city,
in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren.”
Paul's life was
full of tribulation, full of affliction, full of testing. Christ warned us,
“Don't think I've come to
send peace on the earth. I didn't come to send peace, I came to bring a sword.”
James tells us in
James 1:2-4 the reason for it.
“My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into many trials,”
peirasmos,
temptations, testings.
“My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into many testings
because you will know this, that the testing of your faith produces patience. And if you will let
patience have her perfect work, you will be mature and entire and want nothing.”
That's a
promise from the Word of God. James 1:12,
“Blessed is the man
that endures testing, for when
he’s tried, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to give to them.”
You
say, “My testing is unique.” Not according to the Bible.
1 Corinthians 10:13,
“There is no
testing that has overtaken you that is not common to man, but God is faithful, who will not
allow you to be tested above that which you can stand and will with the testing give a way out
so that you can bear it.”
Paul learned this in 2 Corinthians when he talked about the thorn in the
flesh and you may have to learn this too. He loves you, He hasn't abandoned you.
Suffering is
for your own good and there’s a reason for it, to produce patience in your life so you will
learn to trust Him.
Until next week, this is your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for
listening to The FLOT Line.
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I have what doctors call a little bit of a weight problem. I used to grab bear claws as a kid, two at a time, and I'd get them lodged right in this region here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exercise gives you endorphins. Endorphins make you happy. Happy people just don't shoot their husbands.
SPEAKER 02 :
Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. All right, Health and Wellness Wednesday. Welcome, Rush to Reason. Appreciate you all joining us. And because it is health and wellness, and Michael Bailey is here before us on Wednesdays anyways, I always invite him to hang out with us for a little bit. And as we head down this last stretch into the end of the year, talk a little bit about not just estate planning, Michael, but I have a specific question for you because I think a lot of folks, you hear this, You know, terminology, and I've read a lot about this lately, and I think that, A, some people might be a little confused even as to how they work and so on. But tell us how trusts work. You know, what is a trust? When should you have one, or when is it really not a big deal to have one?
SPEAKER 09 :
So a trust is an alternative to a will. both a will or a trust can give away stuff when you die. Okay. Uh, will goes through the probate process. And so when somebody dies, you take their will to the probate court, you give the probate court will then give you, um, legal permission to act on their behalf. It's in the form of what's called a letter testamentary or letters of administration. Basically that's permission from the court to act on behalf of the deceased person, to gather their assets and distribute them out. Well, the trust is an alternative to that. The trust just trust is a private document. So a trust you don't have to take to the court. You don't have to go through that process. So there are many people who value their privacy very highly or they just don't like the government. They don't want the government involved in things.
SPEAKER 04 :
I understand that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. No, I get it. Yeah, I mean, I'd prefer to have the government involved as little as possible in my life, too. You and I both. You know, it's not like this is a super controversial statement. Like, hey, let's let us live our own lives. Cool. But a trust, you put your assets in the trust, and then when you die, the trust does not die with you. It continues to exist. So it's a living thing. Well. If you would. It can't really live or die because... But it continues on. Yes, it continues on. It doesn't... When you die, there's no more John. Gotcha. When you die, your trust will not die with you. I promise you that since I wrote it for you. It was like the car I was driving prior to death. It's still here. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. Gotcha. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. So somebody can come in and take over as the trustee. A trustee is a person in charge of the trust. And then their job is to distribute the assets to the named beneficiaries in the trust and and distribute things out. So you don't have to go through the probate process if you have a trust.
SPEAKER 04 :
What if the person desires that, because you read about these with large families, the Kennedys come to mind, for example, where some of these trusts run decades or longer. I'm assuming if things are set up correctly, they could, right? Yes, especially if they have the assets to do so.
SPEAKER 09 :
Got it, which in that case, they did. Yes, yes. I mean, the Rockefeller trust is, I hear, worth about $1.4 trillion at this point. And it supports all of the Rockefellers. Right. Well, I'd love to have a trillion dollars in the trust for me, but I don't. But a trust is very useful and helpful to control assets after you die, too. So like, you know, my kids being 18, 15 and 12, if my wife and I pass away, we don't really want to give the 12 year old. Hey, if mom and dad had three million life insurance, here's a million dollars. 12 year old. Good luck. Have fun. So instead, we say to the 12-year-old, okay, you've got your uncle and your aunt who are going to control this money and use it to take care of you. And then when you're old enough, we can give it to you. Now, even people who have adults and don't necessarily want to give their adults, adult children, here, have a million dollars, you know, inheritance money. It disappears fairly quickly a lot of the time. It's kind of where the term trust fund baby comes from, I'm guessing. Right. Okay. Yep. So the idea is that money unearned is a lot easier to spend and waste than money that you've earned. You've got your money that you've earned and you use it. Now, from what I know of your children, when you pass it on to them, they've learned to work hard and earn it from you as well. So you may not need to control that money when you pass away. Tax-wise, does it change anything?
SPEAKER 04 :
Or is that more of a tax attorney question?
SPEAKER 09 :
For most trusts, it doesn't make a difference. Okay. Because the current estate tax limit is $13.6 million per person. So for most people, it's a non-issue. $27.2 million for a couple. That is scheduled to be cut in half at the end of 2025 when the original Trump tax cuts are set to sunset. So unless those get extended, that could be an issue. But given the outcome of the election, there's at least a chance. Because, you know, when you've got Trump and then Republicans controlling both houses. Most likely that will get fixed. It will probably get extended or at least made permanent. You know, that's just since that was kind of one of the centerpiece legislations of what he had is like, hey, we'll make it permanent. Whereas had the other side won, anybody with a D behind their name or next to their name can't stand anything Trump. So they would have tried to kill it or destroy it or just let it expire, whatever. So if you're trying to control assets after you die. A trust is very useful. If you're trying to avoid probate, trust is very useful and helpful to do so. And people who have property in multiple states. So I own my house. I own the townhouse, which was the first house I owned. And then we bought some RV campsites right next to the Great Sand Dunes in St. Anthony, Idaho. and they're rented out for five or six months of the year. They've paid for themselves. And my in-laws have their RVs and their sand vehicles, so we go for a week and just ride and play. But if we die, now we have property in multiple states, which means our kids get to go through probate in multiple states. Yeah, that becomes a hassle. So if we put your assets inside of a trust, you don't have to go through probate in any state because it's all there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, makes total sense.
SPEAKER 09 :
Not everybody has that, and we own glorified driveways. They're pieces of concrete, with RV hookups right next to the sand dunes. But still, they're valuable. It's something there, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we don't want to say, hey, kiddos, go through probate in Colorado and then go figure out how to do what's called ancillary probate in Idaho with a different set of rules and different set of laws. Go try to figure that out, too. We're like, look, we'll just put everything in a trust. It'll all be covered. It'll all be taken care of. We're good. Got it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Makes total sense. Okay, so... I assume, because I know you, so I kind of know this answer a little bit. When you sit down and have that initial conversation with somebody, these are the things that you do enough investigative work on to determine how should we actually make this happen for you. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we talk about what their goals and objectives are. and what their options are. And then we say, okay, so which would be the best for you? I mean, I had somebody that is like, oh, you know, a trust sounds like the way to go. I'm like, yeah, but it's more work on the front end. Like, well, what's the cost difference? I'm like, well, it's 500 for a basic will and it's two to 3000 for a trust. And they said, well, then we'll go with a basic will. I was like, okay, you know, cost is not the only consideration, but it is a consideration. And, you know, for the person who has $200 to their name, they don't need a $500 will.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
For the person who has $1,500 to their name, they don't need, well, they probably don't need either either. But, you know, for a person who's, you know, going... Got a few million, probably worth doing. Right. So... And there's no one exact cutoff there. Right. But, you know, it's one of those, I want people to go in and make informed, intelligent decisions of what would be the best for them and what they want to accomplish. Because if, you know, when somebody's like, oh, well, what would you do? I'm like, well, I would do this, but these were my objectives. This is why I wanted to do it. You know, I've got property in multiple states. I've got minor kids. I'm not paying for it, so it makes perfect sense for me to set up my own trust. Mm-hmm. But that's not the case for everybody. And whether or not you want to do a will or a trust, I don't really have a preference. It doesn't hurt my feelings one way or the other. I'm just happy to help you get it done.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that, by the way, bottom line, get it done. Yep. So for those of you listening, how far out are we, Michael, on getting an appointment? First week in March. Okay. So we're all the way to March now. So don't delay. Get that appointment. At least get the appointment made by the end of the year so you can actually get on the calendar and get that done as we head into 2025. And again, folks, you've heard me talk about this. I cannot... tell you enough after some of the things we as a family went through this summer that it is imperative you get these things done because if they are, it just makes things so much easier when and if, I shouldn't say it that way, when something happens, something will at some point happen. There are some guarantees in life, Michael.
SPEAKER 09 :
Death and taxes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, so get that done so that when those things happen, you're all dialed in.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, because I don't want anybody to die anytime soon. I really don't. Especially the next week or two where it's holidays and stuff. I'm like, let's all be safe and happy and healthy. But when we get old enough that our bodies are like, you know what? We're done. Then we want to make it easy on those who are left behind and what happens to their stuff.
SPEAKER 04 :
Fully agree. Michael Bailey Law, again, Mobile Estate Planning. You can find him at klzradio.com, rushtoreason.com, all the other websites that I have, .com, whatever's out there that I am affiliated with, you're going to find Michael there as well. And Michael, Merry Christmas to you and your family, and thanks for all you do for us. And to you as well, John. I appreciate it very much. So thank you. All right, guys. High five plumbing and electricals coming up next, by the way. And again, like Michael, if there's something you need when it comes to the electrical end of things or something you need on the house. Now, in this case, they're not booked out till March. They can get you taken care of prior to the holidays. And if there's something you need, give them a call today. 877-WE-HIGH-5.
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All right, again, thanks for listening. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Appreciate Michael, by the way. He's actually been with us as a partner of Rush to Reason for a long time, going on 10-plus years. So I appreciate Michael and all that he does to help a lot of you out there listening as well, and he's helped me out greatly, and I appreciate that a lot. Believe me, it helps to have all those things dialed in, which, again, goes along with health and wellness because the less stressed we are, especially when those sorts of things happen, the better off we are. Now, this is... I think health and wellness related. I'm going to add it into the topics of today, period, just because I want to. And that is there's a lot of conversation right now around Donald Trump wanting to. You'll see a lot of headlines say end daylight saving time. People add an S to that, by the way, savings time. And it's not right. It's saving time. And what I've read is he hasn't actually taken a position on whether he wants to stay on standard time or daylight saving time. And I've read some different things on it and looked at that. And he hasn't really given any, you know, hardcore position on one way or the other. I think what he would like to do is just get rid of this every, you know, whatever months. I know daylight saving time is here a lot longer than standard time, but we switch twice a year. And I think what he's looking at is, A, that's costly. There is a cost to especially certain industries. There's a huge cost in doing that. And then just people are tired of it. We've gotten to a point as a country to where, frankly, it's unnecessary. And a lot of people will talk about, you know, from the health sides of things, which is why I stuck it here on this Wednesday Health and Wellness edition in this hour, is there's a lot of sleep experts that will talk about how that changing of the clock is not good for your health. Now, I've never debated those particular individuals on air because they're the experts in this. I'm not. But one of the things that I always come back to those particular individuals with is people travel. People go to different time zones constantly. And when they do, they're on a different schedule at that time. So how is that any different than the clocks changing twice a year? And again, I'm not an expert in what you'll also find is most of the, quote unquote, sleep experts. They're on the side of staying with standard time all the time. And they claim that it has to do with your, what is it, the circadian? Am I saying that correctly, Charlie, your rhythm and so on? Again, I'm not a doctor, but I just listen to some of that and think, okay, your body's going to adjust. to whatever time zone or time you're in, in this case, whether it be standard or daylight saving time. In other words, if we stayed on daylight saving time all year long, you're going to adjust. And I know they're going to come back and say, well, then the kids are out in the dark at the bus stop. They are anyways. This time of year, they are anyways. I get it. This time of the year, we wouldn't have a sunrise. Right now, currently, the sun rises at about, I don't have it exactly in front of me, but just knowing when you start to see daylight, 645-ish or so right now. Yeah, I know, it starts to get brighter out at 630, but it really takes to about 7 o'clock to get the sun almost fully up right now. And it goes down at night at about, well, yesterday was our last sunset around the 430 mark. We'll now start getting a little bit longer. And I know we haven't gotten to the solstice yet, but the way things are working right now, we're going to gain some daylight hours here in the next few days. So we've made it over that hump of having shorter daylight days. So if we stayed on daylight saving time, we wouldn't be getting light at this time of the year until almost 8, which, by the way, fine. but we would be light until almost 5.30 at night, almost close to 6 even. And in the not-too-distant future, it would be 6 and later. And for a lot of people that do things at night, even businesses, restaurants, and so on, that extra daylight at night, and I think most polling shows that the majority of Americans, not all because some like standard time, and I think, by the way, that depends on where you're at, in different time zones, east or west in the time zone itself, because that has a factor as well. But in general, most Americans want to stay on daylight saving time. Now, what will Trump do in this regard? Frankly, again, I have no idea. He hasn't made public any position that he wants one way or the other. And will he even get this done? I don't know. Now, with a control of the House and a control of the Senate, if there's ever a time to get rid of this and go to one constant time, it would be now. Now, on top of that, Keep in mind that a lot of countries, not all, but a lot of countries also switch. We're not the only ones. Mexico, up until I think two years ago, switched. They no longer do. They stay on standard time all the time. Now, keep in mind, they're a southern country. So they don't have nearly the change of daylight time during the year that we do anyways because of where they're located on our globe, by the way, which, again, in my opinion, proves we're on a globe, not a flat Earth. We're not going there today. At any rate, those countries and even states that are further south, they don't have, for example, you go to Hawaii, they don't change much throughout the year. They stay on standard time because their sunrises and sunsets don't change a whole lot. They don't vary much. I'm guessing in Hawaii it's about an hour. That's about it. That's about all it changes throughout the year. Here in Colorado, as you guys know, we change several hours because of how far north we are. And you get further north, it's even different yet again. And again, I understand all of the arguments against staying on daylight saving time. On the same token, there's arguments where if we stayed on standard time, here in Colorado, by the way, we would have daylight in the summertime as early as 4.30 a.m. And you would have darkness, you know, sunset at roughly 730-ish in the evenings in the summertime, which we're used to having, you know, 830, 9 o'clock daylight in the summertime here in Colorado. That would be a huge change. So I know that a lot of this depends upon where you're at geographically, you know, geographically related here, you know, in the United States. Where are you located? I know that has a lot to do with feelings on this. I am, as you guys all know, I've talked about this many times, I'm a daylight saving time guy. And I know a lot of people don't like that. They want to stay on standard time. I don't. And again, keep in mind that for a lot of us who work later in the afternoons and evenings, In the summertime especially, I like having that extra daylight hour in the evening time. I like driving home in the light, not the dark. And frankly, I'm one where I don't care if it's another hour earlier, an hour later in the morning is getting daylight because I'm up early before it's daylight. I'm up in the dark anyway, so I really don't care. That doesn't bother me. So we'll see. Point being, this is, according to some... According to some, and is it debatable or not? Again, I'm not a sleep expert. I don't know. But according to some, this is a health issue. Therefore, I stuck it in this day because of that. And it'll be interesting to see once Trump is inaugurated and how things move forward in this particular regard. And here's what I'm going to bet on. Something will change. Something will change, whether it's going on standard all the time or whether it's going on daylight saving time all the time. I don't know, but my gut feeling is something will change. Now, something else that I've been reading a lot about lately. We've all heard to stay healthy, we need 10,000 steps a day, which, by the way, is a made-up number. You can go back and look at the history of, and there's a lot of articles out on this now, to where the person, the man, who came up with the 10,000-step rule, it really was kind of arbitrary. There's no medical science behind the 10,000 steps. So not giving anybody a pass, you still need to get steps in, but a lot of it has to do with your age, And frankly, what are you trying to accomplish at the end of the day? 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All right, before we go to our next guest, Kathleen calling in. Kathleen, go ahead.
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Yes, John, I grew up in Denver in the early 50s, and I remember hearing it on the radio. We didn't have TV. that we're going to do time change because the businessmen want to play golf after work. And honest to goodness, that was the chant.
SPEAKER 04 :
That was it, huh?
SPEAKER 17 :
That was it, day after day after day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Interesting. I did not know that. Thank you for that, Kathleen. I had never heard that before.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, we've heard through the years that, well, it has to do with the farmers, it has to do with this, it has to do with that. And, you know, Benjamin Franklin back in the day, it'll save people money because of the, you know, the amount of money spent on, you know, lighting your home and so on and so forth. And in today's world, Kathleen, we need to pick one or the other and go with it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, I know. I think the businessmen had more clout than the farmers or the lighting.
SPEAKER 04 :
You are probably correct. I would not argue that. I think you're right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, my. What a time. But I want one or the other.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm with you. One or the other, pick it, and I'll run with it. I prefer daylight saving time because I like our evening sunlight in the summertime months, but whatever. I'm good with just going with one time and leaving it.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree 100%. Thanks for your program.
SPEAKER 04 :
You bet, Kathleen. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Welcome back, by the way, Norbert. We've had you on once before, and I appreciate you joining us again.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I appreciate you having me again, which is a compliment by itself.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I appreciate that as well. All right. You are a global innovator in health and technology, and we're going to talk today about really how technology tech habits impact your health.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, unfortunately, most technologies we're using nowadays, and I have a separate show which is called The Major Inventions of the Last 200 Years, are counterproductive to this planet, to plants, animals, and mankind. They're all fluffy, they're all sexy, entertaining, rock and roll, but they come all with a price, and the price is health. Why does, at the moment, every third person die of cancer, and the number's getting worse? Why do we have more Alzheimer's and more Parkinson's than ever before in mankind history? That's not by accident. Health is not by accident, and illness is not by accident either.
SPEAKER 04 :
True.
SPEAKER 16 :
Would you take your head and put it in a microwave oven and press start?
SPEAKER 04 :
Nope, of course not.
SPEAKER 16 :
You say, of course not, but you have a cell phone on your ear.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not me. I don't do that. But you have a cell phone around you. I've interviewed too many folks like you, and I have learned through those interviews that that's not a good idea.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's not a good idea, and this is why I started my venture 15 years ago about cell phones, and I invented a product which makes every cell phone harmless. Interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Explain.
SPEAKER 16 :
And this is not wishful thinking. No, explain. I'm a German engineer, and my production is in Germany. And the BISA Institute in Austria has tested all my products. I have more than 1,500 pages of certifications and tests which are on my website. I wanted them to prove that what I'm claiming is correct or not. I didn't want to leave the people in the lurch. To my analysis, 99% of all products out there which promise to protect you do not work.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I'm assuming that's because they're sending off signals and things along those lines that just aren't good for our health, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, these people who want to help, they make the first mistake when they announced, we block electromagnetic radiation. When people say this, you know you're dealing with idiots. Sorry. In order to make a phone call, when you drive a car, you need gas. In order to make a phone call, you must have electromagnetic radiation. Otherwise, a phone call doesn't work, a cell phone call or Wi-Fi. The problem is that the industries developed these technologies and gave them out and made loads of money and It's the biggest money giving ever in the history. And they had no obligation to make sure they don't harm. No cell phone company can give you any proof that a cell phone does not harm. No company. And no insurance company takes your insurance against electromagnetic radiation. Now... What needs to be known is that we as a human, we need electricity, and we have electricity in our body. We need it for the heart and for the brain and so on. Without electricity in our body, we couldn't function. We have our own electromagnetic field, which we blame the cell phones for and the Wi-Fi, yes. Our own electromagnetic field, as you measure a car in miles of speed and your weighted pounds, you measure electromagnetic radiation in something which is called... micro watt per square meter that's the international standard so your body has a natural micro field of 80 80 80 80 okay 100 is getting bad 120 is end of funny it's highly highly highly riskful for your harm 120. all right if you make a phone call you have easy thousand to two thousand you drive an electric car you have easy 6000 to 8000 okay okay so for me electromagnetic radiation man-made is the main cause for me the main cause one of several causes but the main cause for cancer we have nowadays along with Parkinson and Alzheimer's in my seminars I explained is longer and And I give what you call explanation and tests on the people participating in the seminar so they can see the difference and understand. The problem is you cannot, most people cannot feel electromagnetic radiation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right. It's basically invisible. They don't realize it's there, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And more and more people tell me I have tingling in my hands and heat on my head. More and more people. But this is just a minority. The majority of us are numb. We don't have the sensitivity to feel it. And this is the big, big problem. It's not only cell phones. It's the Wi-Fi, the Wi-Fi towers, GPS, microwave ovens, all these products. Most of them we cannot live without. We don't want to live without. But the big industries have never cared to invest money to find a solution. Now, people ask me, how did you do it? Well, I personally suffered 18 years ago, along with my firstborn grandson, and I tried to find a solution. There was nothing. I said, this is ridiculous. So I invented something I used for myself, and then it turned into a business which I never wanted. I never wanted that business.
SPEAKER 04 :
That wasn't the goal.
SPEAKER 16 :
It wasn't my goal, but I had an obligation because I found a solution for mankind. And of course, I'm not on CNN. It's very simple. So... I produce a product which is like a credit card, thinner and smaller, and you stash it between your phone and the carrying case, the protective case. And then it's guaranteed for five years. It's based on quantum physics, and it has 4G and 5G protection. Now, on the horizon, these idiots talk, sorry, these idiots talk, speak about 6G already, which would be the end of mankind. So... So I programmed my product. So people who bought the products, 4G and 5G, for $99 with a five-year warranty, I upgraded them without them knowing in quantum physics to 6G. So everybody who has my products now has even protection if 6G comes. And I can do this worldwide without people sending back the product or have to pay for it again. I just upgraded free charge, which you can do in quantum physics technology, not in regular physics. It's impossible.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. When it comes to other types of devices we're trying to protect ourselves from, is there any fixes for those?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, for everyone. It doesn't matter. I have the fix for at home to protect your entire house. You put a round disc in your house. Very innocent, like a CD-ROM, a bit thicker, heavier. You put it in your house, and it covers 150 feet in radius, as well as in a globe, first, second floor, basement, and so on, guaranteed for 10 years.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm assuming you'd want to put that in the part of the home you're spending the most time in, so the living area, kitchen area, and the bedroom. Am I right in thinking that? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, think about the dimensions. The thing covers 150 feet in radius.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, true. That's covering probably the majority of homes out there, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I did it extra so... Now, really quick, is that per story, or will it cover a second story, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, it covers in the globe in a sphere. Got it. So if you have second, third-floor basement, it's all covered.
SPEAKER 03 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now, if you ask what's the price for this, the price is $600, $700 and guaranteed for 10 years. And every Wi-Fi in your house from the neighbors or from the Wi-Fi towers, from your own cell phone at home or from your cordless phone, all this is nullified, has no more health effect. Now, on my website, there are tests from the Beezer Institute where you can see the test before or after. People don't have to believe me because the technology is so advanced that the average physicist even doesn't understand it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Got it. When we talk about people that are having some ill effects and some are noticeable, and maybe, by the way, where I'm going with this is maybe, you know, you said a moment ago some are numb to it. They don't know that these things are going on. On the same token, I'm looking at my notes, and there are some things that people may be experiencing that may be related to this. They just don't know it. Am I thinking correctly?
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. The problem is that no doctor in this world is educated in electromagnetic radiation. There are no doctors educated in water, which is my other big topic I'm dealing with. They have no education. They have no knowledge. The problem is, if I punch you in the face, you know why you're hurting in the face, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
But if you have tomorrow liver cirrhosis or a heart attack or... prostate cancer, you don't relate it necessarily to your Wi-Fi signals and to your Wi-Fi and cell phones. Because it can affect any part of your body, just where your weakest link is. Everybody has weaker links. And the weakest link in your body typically take over these problems. And it is clear that the fertility of women has drastically dropped, sperm count of men has drastically dropped, hip replacements have drastically increased because most of the people wear their phones on their hips or in their pockets, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
True.
SPEAKER 16 :
So we know that this is all known. It kills the DNA. It's all known. There are plenty of studies out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
I had a question that just came in on a text line a second ago on this. With the devices that you're talking about that protect us, does all of the devices still work normally like they would otherwise?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, yes, of course.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sorry. Sorry, yeah. That's, of course, the target. I mean, you – and I blame the industries that they release products without taking care of that part.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what you're saying is there is a fix for this on their end. They're just choosing not to.
SPEAKER 16 :
They don't do – they don't care. Because when I invented this and showed it in my first seminars around the world – I give seminars in Germany, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, Canada, America. People said, you've become a millionaire now because every company is going to put this in their phone. I said, no, they will not do it. No, they won't. because then they would admit that there's something wrong, and they would have lawsuits by the millions.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Yeah, at this point, to your point, Norbert, they can't. They're, how should you say this, that would, to your point, that would admit that they had done things wrong in the past that they knew they could fix and didn't, and that would open them up for huge liability lawsuits.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, yes. So back to the question again. It's good that you wrote that question. Yes. So if somebody buys my cell phone unit... He can make a usual cell phone calls as everybody else, but the harmful effect of the cell phone to your body is nullified, is neutralized. It's not there. And you can read this on my website. You see wonderful exposés where they show certain body functions, lungs, liver, heart, and so on, exposed to 5G and then being protected by my technology. So there's no gray zone. It works, you know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, and I know enough about, you know, I'm not an expert in this area by any means, but I know enough about how certain things are working and the way things are talking and the signals and so on, which, as you know, for the longest of time and still are, most people don't realize it, but their cell phone is really just a small two-way radio. It functions a little bit differently than that, but really they just took that same technology and made it to where everybody had one, where at one point in time only emergency-type things or fleets or cities or whatever had that. Norbert, as you know, and as time has gone by, it's just populated and everybody now has one.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because they wanted to milk the cows. They wanted to make money. Right. The same with microwave ovens, okay? So they wanted to do that. And it would take a lot of ethics... If the entire industry would turn to me and say, Norbert, here, put your product in each of our phones and in each Wi-Fi tower. If I put my technology in every Wi-Fi tower in this world, no Wi-Fi signal would be dangerous. Nothing. Right? But it would take ethics from these people to say, look, we missed it. Sorry. We fix it now. Right? They don't do it. They don't do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so for those that are listening that are thinking, okay, I get all of this, I may very well buy the device, or I'm not really sure yet, I'm going to do some more studying on it. In the meantime, Norbert, what can they do to limit... their exposure in in other words can they you know distance themselves for some of these things at night we've all heard even different people you know sleep studies and so on where you know take your cell phone and put it away from you know your bed and so on i mean are there things they can do even right now before buying your devices to limit that i'm sorry nothing
SPEAKER 16 :
Ten years ago, I was consulting people with measuring tools, measuring their properties to show them an area where they are safe. But since 4G towers and 5G towers, it's over. There is no Robinson Crusoe Island anymore. Got it. If you at home switch off your Wi-Fi, you switch off your cell phone, that's nice, but it's nothing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Everything else is still roaming around, though. That doesn't really change that end of it is what you're saying.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because if you go on your computer, your laptop, and you're trying for an Internet connection, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
It offers you 10 different stations. Correct. Next to you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
If you would have the password, you could use it. You're right. But it shows that they penetrate your house.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're correct. You are correct on that. Absolutely. Yes. So, in other words, some of what we've even read, and I've even had some people we've interviewed in the past that talk about, you know, don't sleep with your cell phone near you. Put it in another room, so on and so forth. Really, at the end of the day, that's not doing anything.
SPEAKER 16 :
It doesn't do anything, okay? It's like you go out in a war, and they're shooting with the machine guns at you, and you say, here, I have a helmet on my head. Yeah, so what about your heart and your liver and your belly and your back? You know, there is no a bit pregnant. You are pregnant or not pregnant. You are covered or not covered. And 80% coverage means nothing. There's still 20% left to attack your body, which is plenty.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And in today's world, I mean, even here in Colorado, Norbert, even up in our mountains and so on, there are very, very few places where you can't pick up a cell signal now. We've literally blanketed maybe not the entire globe, but there are very few places where you don't have some sort of a signal, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, but who wants to live there?
SPEAKER 04 :
Nobody. Who can live there? Yeah, nobody.
SPEAKER 16 :
I get every week, I get letters from people saying, where should I move to be safe? There is no... And I say the Robinson Crusoe idea is over.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
You cannot run away.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree. And if you find that place, there's no other services or anything to make life comfortable, so have fun.
SPEAKER 16 :
Or to have a job.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, true. Good point.
SPEAKER 16 :
So how many people can afford to live like that? 1% of our population?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, very, very few. Very few, as you know. And really quick, not only can afford to, but then want to on top of it. Say that again? I said not only can afford to do that, but then want to on top of that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know. And we don't want to give our fluffy, sexy rock and roll life, which is entertaining, you know, and sexy. We don't want to give it up, you know. We want to have all the comfort. Who is willing to really reduce the pleasure? I give you an example. I give a show on water. The longest show I gave on water is three and a half hours where I explain everything about water. And I say clearly at the beginning of this seminar, to live healthy with water is a boring life because you cannot drink beer. You cannot drink coffee. You cannot drink any alcohol, fizzy drinks, blah, blah, blah. You cannot drink it at all. It all harms the body, full stop. So to live healthy, you only can drink healthy water, and that's it. So who wants to do that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Very few.
SPEAKER 16 :
The smallest amount of people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Very few.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm one of them, but only because of bad experiences. Got it. And I was close to death, so I've been there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, it's near and dear to you, by all means. Okay, so how do folks find you? What's the best way for them to do that, Norbert?
SPEAKER 16 :
It's very easy. Go to my website. It's called improveyourlife.us. Okay. improve your life easy to remember and everyone wants to improve your life should improve your life improve your life.us and there you have truckloads of webinars where i speak about these things the seminars i have talk shows podcasts where i was on podcast shows i have write-ups i have these visa certificates which you can read you have the products you have the prices and you can always send me an email if there is something you don't know the answer to
SPEAKER 04 :
And for those of you listening, some of you might remember Norbert. Last time we had him on, we were talking about the addictions to caffeine and that end of things. Norbert, I actually got your book and passed it around and had several people read it. And some have even changed their lifestyle over that because of what they read in your book. So, yeah, for those of you listening, we've had Norbert on before. And for those of you that maybe remember, that was the last time that we talked about.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, thank you very much for having me and helping me to get the word out there.
SPEAKER 04 :
We appreciate it. No, appreciate it. I appreciate your time. For all of you listening, I'll put the website link in our show notes so that you can check that out a little bit later. Norbert, as always, I appreciate your time and appreciate you joining us.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I appreciate you giving me the chance to communicate my information to people, and people think about it and make a decision. What I'm saying makes sense or no sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Appreciate you very much, sir. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
You bet. Have a great night. And again, folks, I've had other people on that have mentioned similar things, not exactly what we just got done talking to Norbert about, but other... Again, I've had sleep experts on, brain health experts and so on, and reality is they all... talk about similar things. They may not be talking about it exactly the way Norbert is in regards to the electromagnetic radiation, but they all talk about these same things. And I will do more studying. I had somebody text in a moment ago, you know, is all of this, you know, what do you think? Is this real? Is it not? I will tell you that the more I study and read about the actual waves, I don't know how else to say it, that we experience daily as a population, and then on top of that, and I get it, our health is not great. We have far too much sugar. I talk about that on a routine basis, and we all know what sugar does when it comes to cancer and so on. But when you look at even things like higher – dementia, higher Alzheimer's and things along those lines, you have to wonder, you know, is there another contributing factor besides the things that we're eating and so on? And by the way, it could very well be even a combination of all of those things. And the reality is, you know, and I always say this, you know, you got to do your own research and you do you. I will tell you that the device that he talks about for your cell phone is pretty inexpensive. If that's the thing that folks even want to start with at least and see how that works, I would highly recommend you do. It's not a huge risk in buying the cell phone protection device that he has and just seeing how it works. So I will get back to you guys on that and I'll do more research myself. But I appreciate the questions, by the way, that you guys are asking on that because this is new stuff. These are things that we don't normally talk about on a routine basis. and I appreciate Norbert taking time out of his day, I should say, to join us. So speaking of health and all of that, we do have a doctor, by the way, that does think outside of the box and does do some things that even big health and big pharma don't necessarily agree with. For example... We talk about stem cell treatments and things like that. Those are things that you're not going to hear the average doctor talk about that I can tell you right now do, in fact, work, living proof of that. And Dr. Scott is one of those that believes in those things and really wants your overall health. And I'm going to talk to Scott, by the way, on some of the things we just heard from Norbert also. So once he gets back from the holidays and so on, I will have that conversation with Dr. Scott as well. In the meantime, his number, 303-663-6990.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Suck it up, Buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, in relation to our last guest, Norbert, a few comments via the text line on this. I just want to share a quick story with you that I'm not so sure that he's not on to something. And let me explain. You all know that my brother passed away three years ago from a very rare form of brain cancer called geoblastoma. Now... On top of that, he worked at a church in ministry. On top of that, the office that he worked in out in San Bernardino, California, and I have no idea what other types of things were there. I really haven't spent any time investigating that. But it's pretty ironic that he was in an office where four other people ended up with some rare forms of cancer, some of which also died like my brother, and the only correlation they had to one another was where they worked. Each one did different things. My brother was an exercise, bicycling, ate well, that kind of a nut. So reality is it was a very rare thing, and these other individuals that also passed away from similar types of cancer, not the exact same, but similar types, you have to wonder, was it where they were working and in that particular environment? And frankly, I don't have the answer, but it sure makes you wonder. So then when you hear people like Norbert come on and talk about the things he talked about, and some of you are saying, is that all true or not? I'll just leave you with the story I just gave you. So we'll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I'm a rich guy.
Join us on this episode of Rush to Reason as we dive into a pivotal moment in American history—the night General George Washington crossed the Delaware River. Our guest Richard Battle takes us through the daring maneuver that altered the course of the War of Independence, giving insight into the dire situations faced and how leadership was redefined with grit and determination. Discover how Washington's resilience against all odds became a beacon of hope and set the foundation for what we recognize as true leadership.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back, and this is our last show of the year with Richard Battle. Doesn't mean we won't be back in 2025, but Richard, this is our last show together for 2024.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good afternoon, John. Yes, yes it is, and we're glad to be with you. And where did the year go, by the way? Well, it's evaporated. We have a good year to look forward to, thankfully.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amen. The night that changed our history. Let's talk about it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and we celebrate Christmas Eve and Christmas, the birth of our Lord and Savior, but Christmas night and the day after Christmas is in my opinion, was probably the most important day in our history. And without it, we'd probably still be British citizens, because that's the night that Washington crossed the Delaware and attacked Trenton the day after Christmas.
SPEAKER 16 :
Interesting. So tell us more about the story. Some of us have heard it, some of us maybe remember it, maybe don't. Give us a little recap of it, if you would.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the more I think about it, the more incredible it was because Washington had lost every battle he led the troops. They had used the fog to escape Brooklyn. They were driven out of Manhattan. They were driven out of New York into New Jersey. They were chased out of New Jersey across the Delaware into Pennsylvania. The Continental Congress fled Philadelphia and went to Baltimore. And so as they came up toward the end of the year, half of his troops' enlistments were up at the start of the year. They didn't have enough food. They didn't have enough supplies. And normally in those days, armies didn't fight much in the wintertime. They'd hunker down and camp and wait for spring. But Washington knew that if he waited, that the army would disintegrate and there would be no more independence movement. And so he was forced on watching that happen. or attacking and trying to make a difference.
SPEAKER 16 :
Interesting. So he knew that, number one, the odds were really stacked against him, and yet he proceeded anyways.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and I believe his individual character, his persistence, his leading by example, those type of things made the difference, which is why he was so revered by people today for so long after independence because they recognized without his leadership an example that the war would have been lost and they would have never had independence, which we've been given.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, he knew what true leadership was. He didn't use the people that were around him. He actually helped those people around him, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and their password that night and motto for that attack was victory or death. They knew that everything was on the line. and they went despite the conditions with the snow, the ice, and the river. It was a very difficult task that went on all night long. They lost people freezing to death, but they knew the gamble was necessary because there was no other choice.
SPEAKER 16 :
And in the end, that paid off, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, they attacked the Hessian outpost in Trenton the day after Christmas, and the Hessians were mercenary soldiers for the British. and they caught them kind of sleeping off the Christmas night party, if you will, and we lost nobody, and they killed the commander, Colonel Rawl, and several of the Hessians, and took several prisoners, and took cannons and weapons and other things, and then to show it wasn't a fluke, within the week, they attacked Princeton and won a victory there as well before retreating back into Pennsylvania for their winter camp, but The amazing thing was never after that was the morale as low as it was before that event, and so it reinvigorated the populace about the independence movement and the war.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, literally, not exaggerating, it changed the war.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely, which changed our lives. Right. And that's the thing. That is so important because people reenlisted. They had new people come join the Army. They had people donate supplies and help them. It just reinvigorated everybody's attitude. And we've heard the expression, it's always darkest before the dawn. And this is a great example of that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now, given all of what he accomplished, and we've talked about this in the past, and he became really a great president, not just the first president, but a great president, in fact, so great that they wanted to make him king. He could have stayed in that position probably for as long as he wanted to, but in the end, his goal and his desire was, A, to be a true leader and understand what was best for the country.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and let me back up one second and then comment on that. Remember, after this night, despite its victory, it took seven more years to secure the military victory and the peace. And so they had to continue for seven more years the commitment and dedication. But you're right. He was a servant leader before that term existed, except in the Bible. And he didn't seek office. He didn't seek to be the commander-in-chief of the army. He didn't seek the presidency. And he recognized that for the country to survive long term, it required fresh turnover of leadership. and development of more leaders not staying in office 50 years like some of our current leaders.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I'm not exaggerating when I say at the time the people really would have made him king. I know that's what they had left, and he knew it was best for the country, and it's amazing that people will ask for something that they already ran away from or fought over, if you would. I mean, that part to me is a little bit amazing, Richard. But in turn, he was such a great leader that the people had that much trust in him that they would have made him king.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and I think that shows that they recognize that he wasn't in it for himself. He put everyone else first and himself last, and that's why they trusted him, whereas today we see leaders in different areas who put themselves first, and you cannot trust them at all.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, they do what's best for them, not necessarily the organization, or depending upon what they're leading, the state, or in regards to different politicians, or it could be the country. I mean, Richard, we could go down the list there. The reality is, typically, and I know there's some exceptions to this, but typically, they're looking out for their own good, not the good of others.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's absolutely correct, and we see it in Congress now on both sides of the aisle too often, where the temptation to enrich oneself is so great that honest people succumb to it because they see other people doing it and think they have to as well.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and along those lines, not to get way off track, but it goes with what we're talking about. You know, I had a question the other day. Why do a lot of those individuals you just mentioned enter with, you know, not a lot of net worth when it's all said and done? In fact, in some cases, they may have spent everything they had to even get into office and they really have nothing, but yet they come out millionaires. Why is that, Richard? Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, because their ethics level is too low.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's the simple answer. I can't disagree with that. They're willing to do things they wouldn't have done otherwise.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's exactly right. One of the things I discovered in writing The Americans Who Made America the 18th Century volume and studying the founder so much was that they set aside their personal ambitions and desires and came together, wrote the Declaration of fought the war, wrote the Constitution, and then once that was all done, then they all started pursuing their separate interests again. But for that period of about 15 years or so, they put aside their interests and just focused on politics. creating the country.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I think that was so amazing and providential. Agreed. Very, very amazing. Richard, how do folks find more of this? You've got lots of books. Folks even right now still looking for maybe a last-minute Christmas gift. You've got things right on the website, don't you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we appreciate that. RichardBattle.com. We have all 11 books there. Everything off that website is signed. If you want something inscribed, email me, Richard, at RichardBattle.com. After you order, we're happy to do that. Everything is on Amazon, including Kindle and audio versions of most books as well. Awesome.
SPEAKER 16 :
Richard, as always, I appreciate it, and we look forward to 2025.
SPEAKER 04 :
Merry Christmas to you and the audience. Happy New Year as well, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, a couple of things I want to talk about before we have Sunny Kutcher on from Young Americans Against Socialism. We're going to talk a little bit about the continuing resolution bill that's going through right now with her. But before that, one thing I just want to add from 3 o'clock where we were talking about Norbert. And we were talking about just electromagnetic radiation and so on and different things along those lines. And I had a few questions from folks and actually had some interesting stories from some of you texting in as well. In other words, sort of validating some of what Norbert was talking about as well. Now, I don't know all of the... idiosyncrasies when it comes to your cell phone and different devices in your home and your wi-fi and so on i will do more research on that what i do know and what i can tell you though personal experience with this that cell towers in general but especially now with 5g and i have a a direct story related to this whereby if you get near one in other words up on the same level so say for example there's a cell tower and there's a roof nearby I know for a fact that you are not supposed to get on that roof or anyone is supposed to get on that roof without calling that particular cell tower provider first and telling them when you're going to be on it. And they power things down, quote unquote. You can then go do whatever it is you need to do on the roof and then they power things back up. So that alone. should say some things that correlate with what Norbert was talking about earlier. So when you combine that with we know from the radio end of things that we can't have people work on our towers, for example, without powering those down first. In fact, they won't. before that happens. They want you to prove that it's even happened before they do. I know in the cell phone, you know, the cell tower industry, those workers, it's the same thing. They will not just jump up there without knowing some of these things have happened on the front side. So when you look at the worker aspect of this and they know some of these things, you sort of have to now start thinking in the way that Norbert was talking about in three o'clock. If you didn't listen to health and wellness, please do. He was talking about electromagnetic radiation and so on and some of the things that are caused from it. And then you look at some of the health things that we as a society now go through. And I fully understand, and we talk about this a lot, that some of our health issues, especially Americans, comes from what we eat. lack of nutrients, all sorts of things along those lines. But then you have to wonder, OK, if you do all of that and then combine some of these other things with it, it sort of is a recipe for disaster. So, again, I'll do more research on that. And some of you that have been texting in, thank you, by the way, for some of the stories that you have shared, because they're really in a lot of ways validating what Norbert was saying. So thank you, by the way, for those stories. All right. One other topic I want to get to. And a text message, and very nice, going back and forth with somebody on the transgender topic. And we got into a topic talking about the bathroom end of things and the use of. And this particular individual thought that my comments and Andy's yesterday were a little bit transphobic when we were talking about transgenders and some things yesterday. And we were talking about that in relation to the Democrats losing the culture. Losing society, if you would. Americans. And that particular topic was brought up. And so I got some text messages along those lines. And number one, I am not transphobic. I explained yesterday full well, and I will stand by this, that I feel like anyone that feels they're in the wrong body... has some mental things going on that they definitely need some help with. And I'm being as kind as I possibly can because I would be kind to anyone that has a mental issue that they need to be dealt with because they're not thinking straight and my heart goes out to them. So I am by no means trying to beat these individuals up. Where my problem lies is really the medical community, because they would rather butcher these people than give them the help they need. And I've interviewed people over the years, one gentleman in particular that was, we were, I think, one of the first shows that he was ever on. He's become very well known, where he actually became a woman. He's a man. He became a woman, then realized after about 10 years that, yeah, this isn't the way this is supposed to be. came back to being a man again and now goes around the world talking about all of that and all of the negative repercussions of doing what he did. So I've interviewed people along those lines as well. So I'm not saying some of the things that I say just off the cuff. I have literal proof from individuals that have been through these things and talk about the way the medical community works and literally the – blood-sucking, revenue-seeking butchers. Yes, that's what I'm calling these doctors on that side because that's what they are. They're nothing more than money-hungry butchers trying to profit off of these individuals. I don't care what anybody says otherwise. That's the truth. They know what they're doing is wrong, and they don't care. Literally, they don't. There's interviews that have been done. Matt Walsh has done some of those interviews with some of these particular individuals. And as soon as they get caught with what I just said, they become very defensive and try to figure out a way to defend themselves, and it's indefensible. Especially when it comes to kids that are minors and under, teenagers and under. I guess if you're 30 years old and want to do this, more power to you. But even then... We really should be looking at how do we help you mentally speaking first, and then we'll look at the physical aspects of this second. But we got onto a topic, this particular texter and I, talking about bathrooms and what's fair and what's not fair. Now, the first thing I did as well, which, again, I don't think most people realize this, it isn't common knowledge, but I looked up what's the ratio of transgender men versus women. And a transgender man is a woman that has become a man, and a transgender woman is a man that has become a woman. And it's of no surprise, by the way, at least it wasn't to me, that the ratio of men wanting to be a woman versus women wanting to be a man is almost four to one. It's three to four to one. Men wanting to become women versus women wanting to become men. Now, my theory on that is, and I'm sorry, but this is my theory. Men enjoy being around women. the way God made us. We're sight-oriented individuals. Newsflash. It's how we're made. And by the way, this happens with a lot of different species, not just the humankind, whereby one is much more attractive than the other. It's just the way it is. So in our case, you ladies are much more attractive than we are, period. Case closed. Again, the way we're made. So my feeling on transgendered women is that these are guys that want to hang around women that frankly probably can't otherwise, and so they do this to be able to hang around more women. I'm just being blunt. That's my belief. So the whole bathroom thing becomes an issue because when these dudes – that are trying to become women and in a lot of cases haven't even gone through all of what needs to be done to become one. In other words, they still stand up to pee. Sorry to be blunt, but they do. And they head into the women's restroom where there's little girls and others there. It's very uncomfortable for those individuals, and I don't blame them. It is uncomfortable. Now, I was asked the question of, well, is it uncomfortable for you when a woman walks in? We're men. Honestly, it really isn't that uncomfortable for us because we're men. We don't care. Literally, we don't care. We can stand in front of a urinal, hide what we need to, do what we need to do, and we don't really care who's around. We're used to it, by the way. It's what we do. And again, I'm not trying to be gross and graphic, but that's just how men are. So it's not the same in a men's restroom when a woman walks in as it is in a woman's restroom when a man walks in. It's completely different. Am I right, Charlie? It's completely different, folks. Now, I don't think either are correct. even a woman going into the men's, but I've been to – there's always that funny situation where I've been at ball games where a woman has to use the restroom and can't hold any longer, and the woman's line is out the door, out the stadium, per se, and the men's line is super short, so she'll jump over, use the men's restroom, and out the door she goes, and most men could care less. But again, we're different. We don't care like the other side does, and I don't blame them. So I just wanted to explain that. I had a little bit of conversation back and forth. All very nice, by the way. It wasn't antagonistic and didn't – I enjoyed the conversation, I should say. There was nothing there that I didn't enjoy. And you guys all know me. I explain myself very well in my position, but I wanted to do it on air today as well. Bruce Simmons is next. He is our reverse mortgage professor, by the way. And as you head into the holidays, you might find some family members that could really benefit from a reverse mortgage, and they may not know it. So you know what? Call Bruce today and find out what he can do for you. Find him at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 16 :
And we are back. Sunny Kutcher joining us now from Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 16 :
Merry Christmas to you and all of your folks there as well. I know this is the last time we'll talk here in 2024, so I want to wish you guys, before I forget, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. Happy New Year, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, all the things. We're so grateful for your show and just want everyone to know Make sure to take this time to celebrate with your family filled with the gratitude and the blessings of liberty of this country.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amen. Appreciate that. All right, speaking of, because this goes along with what you just said a moment ago about blessings, liberty, and where we're at and so on, and that is the continuing resolution bill that's trying to make its way through Congress right now, which is so bloated, which always happens. These guys stick more pet projects into these things. You just sent me an ex-post that just went out from Vivek, Ramazwami a moment ago, and the reality is this thing is full of a bunch of garbage.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, it's jam-packed, and we are not securing the blessings of liberty with this continuing resolution. They are absolutely securing their $70,000 increase for next term. This bill shows the incessant spending, the lack of accountability, the government overreach, the lack of transparency. This will lead our country towards irreparable harm. And we know that this is not what the people voted for. And this is not what the people want. This is not where their intention lies for the country. And I do believe it's important that everyone takes the responsibility to voice your own opinion. And you can go to house.gov. You can find your representative's contact information there and let them know what you think about it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. And for example, folks, these are things that Vivek have noticed. He actually read the 1,500-plus page bill. His point also is why is this stuff always rushed? They've known since September this thing needs to get done. Why are we doing it right now? Well, they do it right now because then it is rushed. Nobody reads it. They just pass it. And off we go. And in this particular bill, there's $8 billion, by the way, to replace the Francis Scott Key Bridge, which, by the way, should be handled by the insurance companies of the companies involved in that particular accident. There's no reason why any taxpayer should be on the hook for that. We've got disaster relief for $100 billion. We've got the farm bill renewing for another $130 billion. We've got stimulus for farmers of $10 billion. It goes on and on and on, Sonny.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. And we know that injecting billions and billions of dollars into the agricultural industry is not going to help them. It's putting a Band-Aid on something and it doesn't get to the root of the problem, which is manufacturing, bringing companies back into the country, et cetera, et cetera, which is what the people know and what they believe will be accomplished in the next administration. The ones that really concerned me were, of course, the pay raise, the 40 percent increase, which ironically, I heard a a segment of Senator Durbin discussing the continuing resolution, and he said he hadn't heard about the pay increase, which I just somehow don't believe.
SPEAKER 16 :
How do you not hear about that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, I think he's the number two Democrat in the Senate, so that's confusing.
SPEAKER 16 :
His people wrote it in. How would he not know?
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely, and I read somewhere it would take seven, eight-hour days in order to read and understand the bill. So, of course, this is just part of the course. It's extremely... disappointing and sickening, honestly, of Speaker Johnson to, you know, call this a I think he called it a conservative calling card, you know, conservative. I'm not sure the exact words he used, but oh, this is the beacon of strength for the conservative led Congress, you know, Republican led Congress. And that's just absolutely outrageous. I mean, they have an expansion of their federal health benefits, which they can also they're able to opt out of the Affordable Care Act, which I thought that was so great. But I guess government representatives don't want it. and also a new stadium in Washington, D.C., as well as an extension of the Global Engagement Center, which was helping and abetting censorship via social media companies.
SPEAKER 16 :
Again, way more pork than is needed. Vivek said it well. If you guys are really serious about Doge and us getting serious about trimming things back and really cutting budgets and really making America great again, financially speaking, you need to put your money where your mouth is. And so far they haven't.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. And this is indefensible information. Any representative who's going to support this and just outright lie to our faces that this is, you know, a successful bill for the country, that this is going to lead us into prosperity. They absolutely need to be checked and their constituents need to let them know what they think because they do work for us. And this is not securing our blessings of liberty that the forefathers wrote into our Constitution. In fact, this is a complete infringement because we are allowed to have transparency. These people work for us, and I don't support a 40% increase in their pay.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't either. In fact, I would like to see a 40% decrease in their pay. I'd go as far as to say, Sonny, you can go do it on a volunteer basis. That would change a lot of folks that actually go to Washington if you had to go there for a two-year term voluntarily speaking versus getting paid. Nice sum of money, by the way, is where it's at right now. The reality is I think they make $140,000 as we speak. So the reality is they get a nice little paycheck for doing that, and that doesn't count all the other perks they get on top of that. So I'd be one to say, listen, how about let's give you guys – No pay. Let's get everything back on track. Let's get our deficit down. Let's get some things back where that needs to be. Then we'll talk about pay and even some increases. But until then, you guys are going to get a pay cut. You're not doing your jobs right.
SPEAKER 14 :
A pay cut? Let's see a bill up for a term limit. Let's see a bill to ban insider trading or investigate the insider trading that goes on in our government. And listen, I mean, the earmarking thing goes on. This has been happening since the modern corruption of our government. And I actually did some research into this. And in 2011, the Republican-controlled House actually established a moratorium on earmarks. They adopted a rule that prohibited earmark requests. The Senate also agreed to this, but they did not file an official rule. Shocker. But so why does it continue? uh... because bates of course allowed work around for themselves which you know the list goes on other than researching there's too many things even went to tell you how they get around that but uh... that moratorium with only on formal request through congress to say hey i want packing specifically towards that but they're now they can get the court at the top of the bill that they always have they also use different terms like congressionally directed spending and then in twenty twenty one of course they started with this very new world order socialist globalist-sounding phrase, community projects funding. So all this really did was just make our representatives more secretive about how much more money they're laundering and don't want us to know about.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's interesting that we've got the two leaders of Doge. posting today all day long, literally being very critical of any lawmaker that would actually vote for this bill. In fact, Elon Musk himself said, if you vote for this bill, it's criminal. In other words, this is the opposite of what we need to be doing. And it's about high time, Sonny, that some other people besides some of us core Republicans are trying to call, you know, basically calling these folks on the carpet. It's about time we had other loud voices like Vivek and Musk calling these guys out.
SPEAKER 14 :
we are so happy to see it because these are the voices that, you know, can amplify to millions of people. The fact that this is, you know, do not pass this bill is trending on X. This is, a major major pushback in fact i think 30 house republicans are saying that they absolutely do not support it which of course that's the only words we need to see action right but uh to hear that you know at least we have some people in our corner that is a huge seismic shift from you know just a couple years ago uh so we are 30 vote no it doesn't pass we already know that so that's an easy one at that point it's not going to pass if 30 of them vote no well yes of course Well, no, of course. I'm saying I just want to see the proof. I do, too. I want to see what really happened.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the other thing I want to see is them stick to that by saying, OK, unless we get a bill that is for the necessities only until we can actually get a full budget going here in 2025, reality is unless you send us something back that is the bare minimum of what we need, we're not passing it. That's the message that needs to be sent by these 30.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, and this is just a complete myth, and I'm hoping that they're going to speak very broadly about what they think should be happening, including we need line item bills. That's right. That's another thing. That's right. So it says that at least 65 cents, this bill or proposal adds at least 65 cents of new spending for every dollar of continued discretionary spending.
SPEAKER 16 :
And we wonder where inflation comes from. Here's your answer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. It baffles the minds that people don't understand when you put billions of dollars into the economy. it actually makes things worse.
SPEAKER 16 :
It makes it worse, not better. But again, Sonny, these guys, gals, are politicians. They're trying to get whatever they can for their particular constituents. They feel like if they do that, that will get them reelected. But then when you start seeing things like you're talking about where certain things are trending on social media that basically say don't vote for this bill, they should be really careful on what they think along those lines because what they think might actually be good is probably not.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, and additionally, for small businesses, this just destroys small businesses. I mean, I you know, that's why we are really making an effort to highlight made in America, small businesses, you know, with our campaign. It's called Made in America on our Instagram. Young Americans Against Socialism, of course. So you can check it out there. But this is why we go into so much detail about how government sees things. the means of production and go into, you know, government control. Obviously, we're not seeing that the way it is in America, just because of just truly, truly, it would never happen. I think we're seeing like a workaround. And so that's why we go into so much education about these topics, because people need to understand that the government will take a mile if you give them an inch. So please check out our resources, Intro to Socialism. We want to share America's foundational values. These are not the values that America was founded on, and we need to really prioritize, like we've been saying, line items, cutting back spending, government efficiency, all these things. So it's really great to see people speaking out about this and truly making pushback and impact on that pushback. So
SPEAKER 16 :
That's awesome. No, really quick, talk about your new website, the way it looks and what's going on there and so on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. We're so excited. We just launched our new website, same website, yaas.org, Y-A-A-S.org. Educate Freedom is our premier content platform. When you go to that page on our website, Educate Freedom, you will see all of our content and resources, our curricula and our learning guides that you can learn from. talk to your family about, engage with the community, engage with your family around the table. And you can also check out our interviews of survivors who have fled communism from the Freedom Records. We have so many more projects in the pipeline for next year that will just, you know, fill up our website with all these contents and resources. We're really excited about it. Please check it out. It looks incredible. And we're so grateful for your support. If you are inclined to take advantage of a year-end tax deduction, I will let you know, just to call back from this proposal here, every 60 cents of each dollar that is given to Young Americans Against Socialism goes directly to telling stories of survivors who have fled communism, who help us teach young Americans to embrace the values of freedom and opportunity and economic independence.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, we sure appreciate all of what you guys are doing. Keep it up. We're looking forward to 2025. And again, for those of you listening, please go to the website. Donate now. Nice tax deduction for you as we head down the stretch into the end of the year. And Sonny, again, no, we won't talk because of the way Christmas and New Year's falls for a couple of weeks. But again, Merry Christmas to all of you and Happy New Year. And we look forward to 2025.
SPEAKER 14 :
Same to you. God bless you, your audience, and God bless America. So grateful for this opportunity. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, and I was sent a text message on pay. $174,000 I was off. I don't know where I got – I don't remember the $140,000. I read so many things all day long and different things. Thank you for the correction. I appreciate that very much. And, yeah, again, I already spoke what I wanted to say on that earlier, and lots of things need to change. But this whole continuing resolution and what they're asking for, it, again – They need it. Like Vivek says, they need to put their money where their mouth is. If they really want to clean things up and they claim they do, they claim that they like Doge and what it's going to be doing. Well, they're not acting like it right now, plain and simple. So we'll see where this goes. We'll see if things actually change. get shut down i highly doubt that will happen although it never hurts when it does because as we all know there's far too many government workers in the first place if you ask me so speaking of all of that joe sent me something that i might come back and talk about next hour but here in colorado we all complain about our roads and so on and i understand c dot and rtd Two different things. CDOT does all of the roads. RTD does the regional transportation in the districts that have allowed them, voted for them to do that. Not all cities on the front range do. I understand that. CDOT covers the entire state. On the same token, RTD's footprint is very small compared to CDOT's, and yet RTD has a larger budget. And they have had for years, by the way. Unfortunately for RTD, while our state population continues to increase, ridership continues to decrease. And in 2024, RTD is reporting that only 5% Of its total revenue, 5% came from fares. meaning 95% comes from the RTD tax they collect on the retail end of things when you buy something, or it's funded through the general fund, or it's a line item coming out of the general fund that our legislatures here in Colorado approve, one of the two. And we do approve additional monies to them out of what we do budgetarily speaking in Colorado. So, by the way, on top of that, Joe sent me this, even though ridership is down, Their spending from 2021 to now 2025 going into next year went from $630 million to $1 billion. So ridership is down, and yet the budget isn't quite doubled. Well, it's gone up 65%. So reality is it's a huge increase. In where it's been. Rider expense. So per rider is the way they look at this. They know how many riders they have throughout the year. Charlie used to be one of those and isn't much anymore, but used to be. So the cost of one rider right now is $17.49. That's up, by the way, from 1685 in 2020. Currently... A three-hour pass to ride anything transit-wise here in the Denver area, in the RTD districts, is $2.75. Cost per rider, $17.49, and we're going to collect $2.75, meaning all of you that are listening that pay taxes and buy things at retail stores and so on are subsidizing the rest of that when somebody gets on and rides the train or the bus. And just so you all know, as I said a moment ago, that's dropping anyways. So you're subsidizing, by the way, less and less people But your dollars are still subsidizing what's going on in the workings of the empty trains, the empty buses, and so on. My point is, your dollars are still hard at work, even though nobody's riding. Imagine that. We'll be back. Hour 3 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I'm a rich guy.
In this episode, John Rush speaks with Elaine Parker from the Job Creators Network Foundation about the rising optimism among small business owners, despite ongoing challenges with inflation and energy costs. Together, they explore how policy changes and leadership could create opportunities for Main Street entrepreneurs.
Later, John analyzes the Federal Reserve’s latest moves, explaining their implications for interest rates, inflation, and small business growth. With engaging insights and practical advice, this episode prepares listeners for the economic shifts on the horizon and equips them with tools to plan for success.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
All right, welcome. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. Elaine Parker joining us now. Elaine, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, John, thanks for having me. I'm doing great.
SPEAKER 18 :
I appreciate it. Job Creator Network Foundation monthly poll found that small business owners are feeling really hopeful for this next year and even beyond.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, tons of optimism. I don't think you can walk down the street right now without finding optimism in everybody. But the small business sentiment in our post-election polling shows on the economy that small business sentiment has risen to a 40-month high. Wow. And and it's all looking at the future outlook. Because right now they're still concerned about inflation. They're still concerned about high energy prices. They're still concerned about the economy overall. But when they look at futuristically, they have lived under the policies of the Trump administration the first time around, where we had low energy, low interest, low inflation, low groceries prices. low gas prices, and all of those things they know are the types of policies that they want because they can survive and prosper under.
SPEAKER 18 :
I am a small business owner myself. I coach small businesses, and I cannot disagree with anything you're saying. We all, I mean the folks that I'm coaching, myself included, we look at it exactly the way you're talking. The other thing that is just beyond me, I know there was a Fed meeting you know meeting today they came down a quarter point but the one thing the fed still doesn't understand when it comes to especially small businesses those rate ups or downs really have a huge impact and i don't think they understand uh how that works but they have a huge impact especially on small business because as you know elaine a lot of small businesses rely on you know lines of credit and things along those lines to help with everything from Cash flow at different times of the year, meeting payroll, you name it. The reality is the majority of them use that. And as that borrowing cost increases, their prices have to follow suit. And what I'm getting at is the Fed doesn't even realize that they're trying to combat inflation with high rates. They actually add to it at times.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, today's rate cut is really, you know, kind of a double-edged sword, bittersweet or whatever saying you want to use. I mean, because what we saw last month is that inflation, core inflation is rising again. And so the Fed kind of backed himself into a corner with this rate cut on the quarter point. And while it may allow small businesses to borrow money at a cheaper price, It doesn't cut the cost of inflation and energy, which is their biggest worry right now. It does not. Exactly. And so whatever the Fed is doing, you know, it just it. It's not that it doesn't matter. It's that this doesn't really help them that much.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I've said for a while now, Elaine, and I get different people that will argue with me on this and even have some disagreements with different guests and such that I have on. And I'm by no means a financial guru, expert, and so on. I understand the small business world very well. But the one thing that I know is that I don't feel – and I think this is something that the Fed, frankly, just doesn't realize – Our economy is such and has grown such that they don't have the same tools in the toolbox they once had. And what I mean by that is some of the things you just mentioned, high energy prices, that alone drives up the cost of everything. If gas and diesel goes up, so does everything else. And the reality is the Fed doesn't control anything along those lines whatsoever. It's our energy policy and what we do in Washington that And what comes out of the White House, frankly, that has as much to do with that as anything else. So in reality, the Fed doesn't have the same impact they once had.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, and in defense of the Fed, they're probably doing everything that they have the power to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they just don't have as big a toolbox as they used to have.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly. And the part of the problem has been, you know, on day one, there was an increase in basically strangleholding the domestic energy production in this country by the Biden administration. And because of that, it drove up the cost of energy, which drives up the inputs overall. for most small businesses, and that's what's driving up the cost for everybody. And so what the Trump administration has vowed to do is increase domestic energy production to bring down those energy costs. And it will literally be a domino effect. It may take some time. I mean, you can't put a time limit on it. I mean, there's a lot of damage here to undo. But when you start bringing down those energy costs, other costs are going to follow and it's going to be more affordable. Right now, we're in just a cost of living crisis for most people. We've suffered 21 percent inflation over the last four years. There's a long way to fall.
SPEAKER 18 :
Cumulatively, it's more like 30 when it's all said and done since 2020. So, you know, you're spot on when it comes to that. And you're right. And as I say all the time, and I think most people agree with me, there's only one thing that creates inflation. People want to blame it on businesses, small businesses and so on. And no, that is not where inflation comes from. Inflation comes from government and government alone through whatever policies they're enacting. And you said it well, Elaine, the day one, day one from the Biden administration, when they decided to just just Shutting down the Keystone Pipeline. I realize it wasn't putting anything production-wise into the economy at that point, but just that message, the signal that that sent was enough to drive things up.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And there's been a continuous restriction on domestic drilling and the policies of the administration. And that has helped to drive up the cost and really destabilize the oil in general and energy in general. And, you know, our small businesses... have suffered as a result under the inflation. But our polling also shows that six in 10 of the small business owners are optimistic about the incoming Trump administration and how those types of policies will help Main Street. I mean, frankly, small businesses supported Donald Trump by 17 points in this election, according to our polling. So it's huge. They understand that those policies You know, in 2016, while Trump was in office, starting in 2016 with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, the deregulation, that was probably the most under-told story, John, was the deregulation. Trump came into office and said, for every new regulation, I'm going to get rid of two regulations. And he ended up getting rid of eight regulations for every new regulation. And he's vowed to come in and try to hit 10 regulations for every new regulation. And that's massive because it's just red tape and just strangleholds our small businesses.
SPEAKER 18 :
It is. You're right. I mean, at the end of the day, nobody's benefiting from that. It adds costs. It'll be interesting to see what Doge does along some of those lines because a lot of what you're talking about, frankly, Elaine, in a lot of cases, entire departments and agencies could literally be eliminated. A lot of these things are duplicated at the state level. They just don't need to exist at all. And a lot of owners out there, myself included, will come along and tell you exactly that. We don't need the redundancy from the state to the feds. Cut one or the two out. And I'd rather cut the feds out than the state. Let the state do their thing. But, yeah, the other thing, Elaine, really quick that I wanted to mention was in talking to a lot of the folks that I consult with and talk to and so on, we're ready to hire. We're ready to expand. We're ready to do things. But a lot of the owners literally are sitting back waiting, A, to see what the election was going to do. Now that that's passed, they're just waiting for the economy to kind of get inaugurated, get things in high gear, and they're ready to move forward.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, 40 percent of our small business owners have told us that they are going to hire in the next 12 months. So the optimism is there. You know, the hope that the that the policies are going to turn around and that the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will be not only extended, but also expanded further. You know, President Trump has talked about reducing the corporate tax rate to 15%. He's talked about, you know, no taxes on tips, no taxes on Social Security, no taxes on overtime. All of those things, those tax cuts will help stimulate the economy. But on the other side of the coin, for those of us who are looking at the debt climb and the deficit climb, because under this administration, we're going to hit $2 trillion in a deficit this year. We've got Doge who's looking at how do we cut, how do we become not only more efficient as a government, but more effective. And I think we have somebody in place there in Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy who can make those changes and those recommendations to make us not just efficient, because to me that's kind of corporate speak, but effective.
SPEAKER 18 :
I agree with you. Absolutely. All right. How do folks find you guys, Elaine?
SPEAKER 17 :
They can go to JobCreatorsNetwork.com.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, JobCreatorsNetwork.com. By the way, as you can tell, you speak our language. You are welcome anytime. I appreciate what you're doing. And as you can tell, we are definitely, at least I know I am. I got a lot of listeners that are small business owners as well. So we are definitely on your side.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 18 :
I appreciate it very much, Elaine. Have a great night.
SPEAKER 17 :
You, too. All right.
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SPEAKER 18 :
This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 07 :
John, I need a favor. I might be coming to Denver next month, and I was wondering if you know of a tattoo shop where I can get a tattoo of Luigi Mangione on my neck while I'm there.
SPEAKER 18 :
How stupid is this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Did you talk about that yet?
SPEAKER 18 :
I have not. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Article out today, there are people all around the country going out. Of course, Luigi Mangione was the guy who shot the UnitedHealthcare CEO, shot and killed him. There are people literally getting tattoos of this guy on their face, their neck, their arms. And they're even putting part of the tattoo, you know, the shell casings. We had the three shell casings where with the felt tip marker he had deny, defend, depose. They're actually getting those shell casings as part of the tattoo. His face with the three shell casings. How sick do you have to be?
SPEAKER 18 :
Pretty sick, Joe. I mean, you've got to be sick to even just think that this guy did something that was heroic in the first place. I mean, how sick and twisted are you that you're now going to celebrate somebody that took someone else's life?
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, I saw a poll yesterday, and they did it by age group. Something like 17% of the people aged 19 to 29 thought what he did was good and necessary.
SPEAKER 18 :
Good and necessary. And I guess, Joe, the question I would have for these individuals is, by doing this, what do you think is going to change moving forward? Because frankly, Joe, as you know, in that position, they replace it and keep going. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 07 :
John, you're 100% correct.
SPEAKER 18 :
So other than taking his life, what was accomplished, Joe?
SPEAKER 07 :
Nothing, absolutely nothing. And by the way, the hypocrisy from being online, many of these same people that were celebrating and praising this guy are the very same people that are opposed to the death penalty in capital murder cases. So on one hand, yes, it's great that you murdered this CEO.
SPEAKER 18 :
So you gunned down, cold-blood murder, premeditated this CEO. That's okay, but capital punishment, sending gals to death row is wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right, John. I can't speak for 100 percent of them, but I know for a fact a great many of them.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, it wouldn't surprise me, Joe. I mean, that would be the mentality and the hypocrisy once again where, oh, it's OK to be behind a guy that guns down someone else and takes their life and leaves, you know, orphans and a widow behind. That's OK. But somebody that really has committed these atrocities and then put them, you know, give them a death sentence, that's wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and by the way, if he was, of course, New York State doesn't have a death penalty, but can you imagine the hypocrisy that if he was being tried in the state and got the death penalty as a sentence, how many people would be protesting that the death penalty is inhumane? A lot. A lot. a lot. John, I bet you there'd be tens of thousands of people.
SPEAKER 18 :
John, I mean, all you can do is, you know, shake your head, and then, at the same time, I mean, these are also most likely, don't know for a fact, like you said a moment ago, but these are most likely the same sorts of individuals that would vote for Kamala Harris, they would vote for, you know, student debt forgiveness, I mean, basically going against everything that it really takes to actually run a society they would be against.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. It's just So question – The hypocrisy of the left. There is no logic.
SPEAKER 18 :
And I guess the question I have is why, Joe? I mean, I get it. Our school system is designed to create some of this and to generate some of these kids at the end of the day. But, I mean, I still have to ask the question, why?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, John, I think you put it particularly – I think it's among – and by the way, 76% of high school graduates are going on to college today, which is up from like 56% 30 years ago. And I think it has to do with college, the indoctrination, because a lot of people 18 years old go into the military, and I'm willing to bet that only a fraction of 1% of our military people, people in that same age group, are celebrating this guy, praising Luigi May. So I think it happens... More in college, particularly the liberal arts college, not so much the engineering schools.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, we know, and it's a fact, and you probably know the stats better than I, that the brain is not fully developed, especially young men, not fully developed until they're in their, you know, what, 24, 25 years of age or so. So the reality is that still formable years. where they're in college, their brains are still being molded at that point in time, and much like we mold soldiers, these are getting molded in quite the opposite way.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, of course, we all know that college professors overwhelmingly are liberal Democrats.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Very, very few. They're Marxists, Joe.
SPEAKER 18 :
They're not even Democrats. They're Marxists.
SPEAKER 07 :
they're Marxists, and the very few who are Republicans have learned to keep their mouth shut if they want to keep their job.
SPEAKER 18 :
They want to keep their job and stay, yeah, they don't have a choice. And again, when I say Marxist folks, trust me when I say that, I mean that with full intent, because if you look at the behavior of, Joe, what you're talking about right now in regards to what these kids are now celebrating, they're Marxists.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and then it gets back to, here's another Marxist thing. Now, of course, Social Security is in trouble, it's been in trouble, and Unless something changes, it's going to run out of money by 2034, after which time, with no changes, that there will only be enough cash coming in to pay out promised benefits at the rate of $0.80 a dollar. Well, all the Marxists, their solution is uncap the contributions, because right now it's capped at $168,000. So if you make more than $168,000, you're a CEO. You're done. You don't pay any more. You don't pay any more, and you don't pay FICA on stock dividends or capital gains if you sell stock. Well, the Marxists want to make stock dividends and capital gains.
SPEAKER 18 :
In other words, they want non-wages taxed FICA. They want FICA taxed on non-wages, where right now it's only on wages.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's only on wages, and it's only on up to 160, but here's that. But then when you point out to them, well, you do know that the equation that calculates your benefits, the more you put in, the more you get out. So what you're talking about is people getting a $50,000 a month. Oh, no, no, no. We would want to cap the benefit. So what they're basically saying, they want to redesign Social Security into a new and different wealth redistribution program.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct, which is Marxist.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want people to put in millions of dollars. Well, they want somebody to put in a million dollars a year. into the program, but only get a $4,400 check when they retire.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. Be capped when they get it. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Be capped when they get it. So they want to uncap the contribution. but kept the benefit. That's Marxism.
SPEAKER 18 :
And what they don't understand is if you did something whereby you FICA-taxed all non-wages, Joe, you would have an ultimate revolt in the corporate stock world and so on. People would just either, A, hide all of their money, they would be doing things on the side, they wouldn't report things, they would move, they'd go to a different country. Reality, Joe, is that that's not going to happen, period. Not going to happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, let's talk about moving. John, two years ago, I think I sent this to you. Two years ago, we already had 6,600 millionaires leave the country. By the way, if you just leave the country and you're still a citizen, you have to pay U.S. tax. But we had 6,600 millionaires leave the country and renounce their citizenship, taking their wealth and their tax dollars with them. Now, by the way, a lot of these same people, they want to go back to the Eisenhower top tax rate, which was 91%. Which nobody paid. You know what happened when the top tax rate was 91%? People leave. Well, actually what they did back then, John, is they all put their money into tax-free government bonds. So they just shifted is what they did. They shifted. And today, at a 37% top tax rate, the top 1% alone are paying almost 46% of all taxes. Back when the top tax rate was 91%, They were only paying 11% because at a 91% top tax rate, you'd have to be an idiot to take any sort of investment risk if you could only keep $0.09 on the dollar. So they just said, screw this. We're just going to put our money in tax-free government bonds. And they paid almost – so it was a 99%, 91% rate. but nobody paid it because they put all their money in tax-free bonds.
SPEAKER 18 :
These kids, sorry, I don't know how else to say it, but these kids forget that people that get to that level aren't dumb. In other words, they understand how the system works and how to maneuver things around, much like what you just explained a moment ago, and that's exactly what they'll do. They're not going to lose anything on this. They'll just figure ways around it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, and they want to impose a wealth. So let's say they impose the wealth tax where every year they're going to take 5% of your wealth. So if you're Elon Musk, who's worth $400 billion today, 5% is $20 billion a year. How long do you think it would take Elon Musk to pack up his bags and move to Costa Rica? A month.
SPEAKER 18 :
A month.
SPEAKER 07 :
He'd be gone. It would be him, Bezos, Bill Gates. racing for the exit.
SPEAKER 18 :
And what these same kids forget is those particular individuals you just mentioned, while some of them I don't care for very much, they still do a lot to add value to the economy through things that they own and things that they do and things that they donate to. In other words, they employ all sorts of people that contribute back into the economy. Whether you like them or not, that's what they do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Walmart today in the U.S. employs over a million people Amazon employs a couple of hundred thousand.
SPEAKER 18 :
And what these kids forget is each one of those employees have FICA tax matched by said employer up to that mark you said earlier, the $168,000. So the reality is those businesses are also participating in that. So, again, I guess the question I would ask, too, Joe, is if they want you to pay Social Security tax on non-wages, at what percentage? Do they want the full 15%?
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. They want the full 15.
SPEAKER 18 :
Gotcha. Yeah, that's not going to fly.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So, again, there would be a stampede. You know, you and I both know about the tale of the goose that laid the golden egg. Apparently these kids— They've never heard that. They've never heard of it, because I guarantee you, if I was an Elon Musk and I said, well, we're going to tax you $20 billion a year, which is 5% of your wealth, before that legislation ever got signed into law, he'd be gone.
SPEAKER 18 :
He's gone. That's right. So would everybody else along those lines.
SPEAKER 07 :
And by the way, Elon Musk, for those who don't know it, is the single largest taxpayer in the history. Last year he paid $11 billion in income taxes and holds the record as the single largest taxpayer in the history of the IRS.
SPEAKER 18 :
Amazing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Amazing. And you tell people this and they don't believe you.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, they think you're lying.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I've been called a liar, a bootlicker. I tell them that the top 1% pay more in income taxes than the bottom 90% combined. And they laugh. They call me a liar. They get nasty.
SPEAKER 18 :
Those are stats they can go look up.
SPEAKER 07 :
IRS.gov. Right. Go look it up. And their ignorance, John, their ignorance is astounding what they don't know. Unbelievable. They get all of their information from these left-wing propaganda Facebook sites.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep, which are totally wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
Totally wrong. Yep.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's frustrating.
SPEAKER 07 :
Frustrating and disappointing. All right, John.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Scott Garlis joining us now. Scott, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, John, I'm well. How are you?
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm good. Always a joy to hear from you. All right, give us an update. Saw a little bit of news today on the Fed. I have a question, though, because I don't think a lot of people talk this way, but a few do. What is the dot plot from the Federal Reserve? If you Google it, you can find it, but most people don't talk about that. Can you explain that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so let's start with what happened from the Fed today, and then I'll jump right into the dot pot.
SPEAKER 03 :
Perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because the dot pot was a really important part of the outcome.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
So going into the Fed meeting, markets were kind of bouncing around up a little bit, but nothing crazy. So what we saw was the Fed cut interest rates by another 25 basis points. And that got the, I believe, the federal funds rate down to about, heck, where did it go? It is down to about 4.4%. Okay. So that is 100 basis points or, let's say, a full percentage point worth of rate cuts since they started in September. So back in September, we were at 5.4% on the overnight borrowing rate, and now it's at 4.4%. Okay. So every quarter, the Fed meets eight times a year, once in the first month of the quarter, once in the last month of the quarter. It's basically how it works. In the second meeting of each quarter, they produce basically a chart, a layout, or a packet called the Summary of Economic Projections. It's also known as the SEP for short. So what that does is, every board member and regional Fed president, they give their expectations for where they think economic growth, the unemployment rate, CP inflation, core inflation, and the federal funds rate will wind up at the end of, in this one they did 25, 26, 27, and then what they call the long run. So it's sort of, where they think everything settles out over time. So what the Fed does when all of these people give their indications, they literally have a dot for every single person, and they plot it out on a chart that has a bunch of ranges for each year. So it's known as the dot plot. But the dot plot is important because the median expectation of those dots is is what's used as the guidance for interest rates moving forward. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep, it does.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, yeah, dot plots are really, it's a very apt title because that's exactly what it is.
SPEAKER 18 :
How accurate does it end up being?
SPEAKER 05 :
It does not always end up being very accurate. Okay. And so, well, here's what happened with the dot plot. So, back in September... they did guide for interest rates to finish this year at 4.4%. We got there. But they guided 2025 to 3.4%. So what they guided for was another 100 basis points worth of rate cuts over the coming 12 months.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we're probably looking at realistically a half, or am I wrong in that?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's exactly what happened. Look, this was very much expected, but they backed it down to a half. So now, instead of guiding for interest rates of 3.4%, they're guiding for 3.9%. All that said, last year, they started out with one number, and then they reversed that. So last December, they started off at 4.6%. By June, they were saying interest rates were going to end the year at 5.1%, and now here we are at 4.4%. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so I say all of this because typically, and you can look at this in corporate America too, when a company reports their first quarter earnings or they set guidance for the following year, they're usually very conservative because typically, As you know, if you're doing, say, like an investor presentation or trying to tell people about your business, the last thing you're going to do is say, hey, in 12 months from now, my business is going to be on fire.
SPEAKER 18 :
You don't overpromise.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's a lot harder to predict what things will look like 12 months from now. But typically what we see is corporate America, after they report second quarter earnings, they've got six months in the bag. They probably already have half of the third quarter, and that's when they say, OK, now we can tell you what the rest of the year is going to look like, because to tell people, you know, even after the first quarter, what the next nine months, that's still tough. So to me, I look at it this way. When when the Fed is giving this guidance for the next 12 months, they're going to start out very conservative and they can they can let it get more aggressive toward the end of the year.
SPEAKER 18 :
OK. Yep. And I think what they're looking at, too, unless I'm reading this wrong, is they want to see what the new Trump presidency and economy will look like, some of the things that he will do, what will Doge do, what's going to happen with Congress and spending and so on. I think, frankly, Scott, they're going to take a look at all of that and then determine what to do based on that.
SPEAKER 05 :
So that leads me to the next part of it. The other thing that what really caught Wall Street's attention today was was the Fed said, hey, inflation's going to end the year for 24, 2.4%. But then for 2025, they took headline inflation, their growth estimate, back up. In September, they said 2.1. Now they said it's going to end 2025 at 2.5. And then it's going to fall off in 26, 27. That sort of got people concerned because they're like, well, How can you cut rates if you're saying inflation is going to end the year 2.5 and you were 2.1? Again, I look at that as they're being conservative. They don't know. Powell even said there are some people that probably included Trump policies in their expectations because they don't know. So what you said is exactly right.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and I – you and I have talked about this before. Trump comes in, energy prices will most likely go down. That alone cuts prices. You're going to have some – not deflation, but you're going to have some price adjustments that will help with the inflation sides of things. Again, will he help with supply and demand? I was going to ask you about tariffs as well. But before we get into that, I also just – I don't know why yesterday – I don't think a lot of people do this. I went and looked up the board makeup, the Federal Reserve Board makeup, and I thought, how many of these guys have actually been in the private sector and or ever written a paycheck? Number one, none of them have ever written a paycheck. Number two, only a few of them have been in the private sector, and if they were, that was in banking. Other than that, these guys are lifetime, what I call, I know politician maybe is a stretch, but these guys are lifetime embedded in government, and that's who runs the Federal Reserve Board.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, now, Jay Powell was an investment banker for a long time. But he did work at some think tanks as well in D.C.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, these guys are, you know, they've worked in academia and professors and things along those lines, and they're, you know, economic quote-unquote experts. And my point with all that, Scott, is, as I always say, these are guys that have no idea what goes on on Main Street.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, and if we go back to the end of 2018, when, you know, I think it was September when Trump said he was going to start going after China with trade tariffs. I don't know if you remember, but like Powell came out in October, at the beginning of October and said, you know, we still plan on raising rates and we're, you know, full steam ahead. And the market fell 20%. And by the end of the year, Powell, you know, end of year, beginning of January, Jay Powell said, you know what, that's a bad idea because if we do that, if we plow forward with rate hikes, we're just tight policy, it's going to kill the economy. And they started cutting. because they knew they had to. Otherwise, they were looking at economic disaster.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. Again, I will continue to stand by my statement that they understand maybe Wall Street. I'm not sure even all of that they understand, but they understand Wall Street more than Main Street, and they have no idea. And I also keep saying this. I said this to a guest a little bit earlier. in this hour, Scott, they also don't have the same tools in their toolbox that they once did. And I think that's frustrating in defense of them. I think it can frustrate them because some of what they do, thinking that they're going to get one result doesn't happen because it's not the same tools they used to have. The economy is different than it used to be.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would agree. And they're definitely, you know, back to the, conversation, but there's way too much stimulus thrown at the economy after COVID, and that's part of the residual problem. But the flip side of all this, too, is the fact that they reduced rate cut guidance and these other things, and inflation guidance goes up a little bit, whatever, because they're being conservative. But it also says You know, we're not in a disaster scenario right now. So, I mean, that's a good thing, because if the Fed was massively slashing interest rates, that would be really bad. Right. That would also be concerning from the standpoint like, hey, wait a second, we've got a big problem here. So inflation is a big problem, but it's coming back slowly to 2%. It's going to be under control. I just think what they did today was, let's be conservative out of the box. Let's see how this plays out. And I would bet you that it's not going to be as bad as they think it is. But things will play out. Maybe they might wind up having three rate cuts next year instead of two. We'll get to be seen.
SPEAKER 18 :
Scott, as always, I appreciate it. What's the best way for folks to find you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, sure. You can go to Twitter. You can go to LinkedIn. Look up C. Scott Garlis.
SPEAKER 18 :
Scott, Merry Christmas to you, your family. Happy New Year. We won't talk again till the new year because of the way the holidays fall, but I appreciate all you do for us.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, man, thanks for your time. I always appreciate it.
SPEAKER 18 :
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All right, welcome back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. All right, one last little segment here before we take our last break. Finish up this Wednesday edition of Rush to Reason. The U.S. is now weighing a ban on another Chinese company. It's not TikTok. That's going to the Supreme Court now, trying to figure out what to do with TikTok. That'll be an interesting thing to see how that comes out. But in this particular case, this isn't an app. This is hardware. And for a lot of you listening, you may very well have this piece of hardware in your home because it's very popular. In fact, a lot of small businesses have it as well. And it's a brand name for routers, modems, things like that called TP-Link, TP-Link. And you may know that name very well. I did when I saw this. A lot don't, but you might want to look around at some of the hardware you have in your house because right now we as a country are weighing a ban on those particular products. And the reason is those are made in China and they are linked to Chinese cyber attacks all over. So what's happening is the Chinese are selling these devices online. People are buying them. It's the most popular device sold on Amazon, by the way. There's a backdoor already built into these things whereby it gets really easy for the hackers to enter in, and voila, they're into your system, learning everything about you, your bank accounts, and so on. So my point is, is if you're running anything that's TP-Link, you may want to switch to another brand. You may want to do that anyways because if these things become, quote-unquote, outlawed, it won't mean that you'll have to surrender what you have, but you probably would want to. But what you have will become obsolete, and there won't be any updates, things like that for it. So reality is I would be looking right now at what hardware are you running in your office, work, home office, your home network, whatever the case may be, and determine if that, in fact, is one of those devices. My advice would be replace that with something else. because you're liable to not be able to use it in the not-too-distant future anyways. Furthermore, I don't want to be hacked. I don't think anybody does. The pain that you have to go through after that isn't worth it. So my advice would be go figure out what hardware you're running. I'm not an IT expert, and if you know somebody, go ahead and ask them. But I think once they read this, they're even going to look at this and say, okay, wow, we probably should even be informing our customers of all of this and be making some changes. So that's going on as we speak. To me, I'll be real honest, this is a much bigger deal than TikTok. Once again, showing how ignorant a lot of the folks that we have on Capitol Hill are. They're more worried about an app that, you know, the Chinese own, you know, supposedly tracking what everybody's doing. And yet we've got these hardware devices running around that give access right into what you actually do with your banking and purchases and credit cards and so on. And yet we're not... Congressionally speaking, doing anything about that, we're worrying about TikTok instead. So Veteran Windows and Doors is next. 40% off entry doors, including free labor to put them in. Just go to our website, klzradio.com, and find Veteran Windows there.
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Join host John Rush as he sits down with Jeremy Portnoy to explore the intricate maze of government spending, uncovering billions in waste and imagining a future of fiscal responsibility. This episode shines a spotlight on the Doge initiative, explaining its intention to make government spending transparent and bipartisan. Whether it’s exploring improper payments that heighten national debt or questioning the needless expenses, this conversation promises to engage listeners interested in public policy and accountability.
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All right, we're back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy had to head out, do some family things. I appreciate Andy helping me on Tuesdays. And Andy, if you're listening, have a great rest of your night, and thanks for all that you do for us. Jeremy Portnoy joining us now. Open the books. Jeremy, I've been waiting, by the way, with a bated breath to have you on because of all that's happening with the new administration and so on, and I'm glad you're here.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm glad to be here, John. Thanks for inviting me back.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're very welcome. Author of Open the Books, Waste of the Day column on Real Clear Politics. All right, let's get into Doge. And this has got to be for you guys especially, because you guys are the, how should I say this, the tip of the spear when it comes to finding government waste. That's what you guys are experts on. What are your thoughts on Doge?
SPEAKER 03 :
We're very excited. I mean, yeah, like you said, we've essentially been dozed for over a decade now. We have 10 billion lines of data, every penny the government has spent at every level. We're always calling out the waste that goes on, but now we're really seeing it enter the national conversation in a way we haven't seen previously. It's really mainstream to be trying to, you know, find ways that the government can spend less money and get some cash back to taxpayers.
SPEAKER 15 :
What a concept, by the way. I mean, honestly, to your point, you guys have been doing this for decades. We finally, finally now have some folks in government looking at this saying, number one, this really is just an utter waste of tax dollars. Number two, if we don't get something reined in, we're not going to be able to recover from the national debt that we have right now. And then on top of that, we have got to get some confidence back from the American public by being more fiscally responsible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And I think what's really cool about this department is their goal, if they can pull it off, is to have this be totally bipartisan, right? This is something that both parties can get behind. I mean, you've got even Senator Bernie Sanders, a progressive, wants to work with them to monitor the Pentagon's budget, try and get them to pass a financial audit, which they can never do. You've got Senator Joni Ernst, who's usually more towards the middle. She wants to work with them to get federal employees back in the office. So there's a lot of different initiatives that everyone across the political spectrum can really get behind.
SPEAKER 15 :
And Jeremy, I think all of us would admit, myself included, that where government needs money to provide the essential services that we as taxpayers and citizens want to have, you know what, Jeremy, I am all for. But also as a taxpayer, I am just dead set against all of the absolute waste, some of the things that we as a country spend money on, some of the things that happen overseas that, by the way, don't benefit us here at home at all. The reality is, and I think part of what, by the way, won Donald Trump this last election is the fact that people are sick and tired of seeing their money wasted.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, you have a right to be, right? It's been since 2001. where we had even one single year where the federal budget was balanced. We had a deficit every single year. That includes Trump's last term. Trump in his first term had a $6 trillion deficit. That was the most in history until Biden took over. So until we see some progress, it's all talk, right? Now it's time for the Trump administration to really put their money where their mouth is and show that they can get this budget under control.
SPEAKER 15 :
When it comes to Doge itself, and I don't know all of the legalities around what they can do. There's been a lot of folks even on the left that have come out and said, well, yeah, it's all great, fine and dandy. But these guys still have to get a certain amount of things done through Congress. They control the purse. Although there are some things that I believe, Jeremy, that even by executive action, you could clean up and get rid of. The question I have for you is, where is that separation? What can Donald Trump himself, through the recommendation of Doge, actually handle? And what things actually have to go through Congress to get taken care of?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, there's going to be a lot of legal gray area there. I mean, in theory, Doge is only an advisory committee. Congress really has the power to control the purse, right? It's going to be like Senator Susan Collins from Maine. She's going to be leading the Senate Appropriations Committee now. But there is a lot of talk, like you mentioned. One thing is, you know, Trump's talking about possibly impounding congressional funds and changing what they're appropriated for. I mean, that would probably go to the Supreme Court to decide if that's actually legal or not. So we'll see how much Doge really tries to flex their muscle here. or how much they try to cooperate with Congress and try and do things the legislative way.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I think, if anything, and maybe this is pie in the sky, Jeremy, on my side. I mean, I've interviewed you guys now for a number of years, not quite the full decade, but quite some time we've been interviewing you guys and talking about some of the waste that's there. And the reality is, again, the American public are tired of it. I think there's a large voting bloc now that is finally being paid attention to that's saying, listen, guys, enough is enough. We need to quit squandering. I've got some things in front of me that you guys have actually found. $26 million splurged on conference room furniture while most of these meetings are being held on Zoom. In other words, American public is looking at this thing, wait a minute, I'm having a hard time feeding my family, and you guys are spending $26 million on furniture nobody's going to use.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And it's just common sense. Both parties can agree you've got to get rid of it. When you're talking about that remote work, we just identified a federal office building 2 million square feet. The Department of Energy is paying for this building. On an average day, there's eight people working there. Wow.
SPEAKER 15 :
And really quick, I'm glad you mentioned that. That's the stuff where I'm looking at that saying, okay, time out here. Are these the sorts of things that, again, through executive cleanup, could the White House itself, Donald Trump and those around him, are these the sorts of things that could literally get cleaned up overnight where we've got – millions of square feet unused, by the way, buildings that could even be sold off and money collected. And not only would we not have to manage and handle the expense of those buildings, which, by the way, gets very expensive, we could collect some cash at the same time. Are those things that can be done, executively speaking, or does that have to go through Congress as well?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's partially both ways, right? At the granular level, those can just say, okay, why are you paying for this building with nobody in it? Let's send some people to work there. And that's something the Department of Energy themselves can control. But it's Congress deciding those top line numbers saying, okay, Department of Energy, here's how much money we're giving you to spend on your office space. And then the executive branch really has no say in that. They have to spend that money on offices.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so this is where, and I can already see that there's going to be some things that get a little bit dicey down the road. Question I have for you guys at Open the Books, how much or have you been tapped into by some folks at Doge? In other words, you guys have already done a lot of the heavy lifting. Can they just take some of what you have found, or how does that all work out, I guess, is my question.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we've been in touch with them. We've been texting back and forth as they call on me. He and Elon Musk have both been posting some of our articles online on Twitter. So we'll see what comes out of that. We're definitely here and willing to help. We always want to maintain a little distance because our job is to hold the government accountable, and that includes those. But we're, of course, always here and ready to help and help them identify some of these areas.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I was going to say, on the same token, Jeremy, facts are facts. I mean, the reality is if we're spending X money on X thing, there's nothing partisan about that. The reality is, guys, here's what you're spending it on. What are you going to do about it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And that's what we're really going to be looking for. We want to see them reach across the aisle, get both parties involved in this, and have this be something that then is continued past their deadline of July 4th, 2026, When they say the OSHA is supposedly getting dissolved, it's unlikely the federal budget is going to be completely balanced by then. So they need to have something in place that's then going to be continued through the national conversation for years to come.
SPEAKER 15 :
You guys look at this stuff daily. I don't. How much total waste? I mean, and I know it's a hard number to probably come up with, but on any given year, what do you feel an average number is of just actual waste? Not restructuring and redoing some things and closing a particular department and so on, but just waste on things that you guys can't identify. How much do you think the total is, or do you know?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm not going to put a dollar figure on it just because a lot of objective. Right. We can go back and forth over what's waste and what's not. One thing I will tell you, we've been looking at improper payments. So that's money that's just objectively sent to the wrong person for the wrong amount. Someone made a mistake in the books under Biden. That's cost nine hundred eighty billion dollars over the last four years.
SPEAKER 15 :
Geez. Yeah, that's a big number. That one is pretty self-explanatory. And, again, I mean, I get it. Some of this stuff is subjective, although as I read through some of the list of things that I have in front of me that you guys have put out, some of this is like, okay, wait a minute, why are we spending – Again, $26 million on furniture we're not going to use. Why are we spending money on employees that we're not getting the full value out of? And on and on we go. I mean, all the way back during COVID, we put in solar-powered picnic tables, even though folks weren't at work, and we spent almost $250,000 doing so. That's the kind of stuff, Jeremy, we just have to stop doing. We can't do as a government. We don't have the money. We're borrowing the money to do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And a lot of the money goes back the other way. We're funding Chinese grants. There's a report that came out from the House of Representatives claiming that a lot of our money is actually helping China research for their military and nuclear warheads. We're borrowing from China just to send that money back to them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. Makes no sense. Makes no sense. Well, it'll be interesting to see how things go. We'll continue to have you guys on. I'm excited. I mean, again, I have to be careful that I don't get too excited because we don't see what the outcome is. And I, like you, I want to see what we're doing here and what Doge does continue on literally and definitely. I don't want to see it end.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we're hoping for the same thing. We'll definitely be keeping tabs on it, and hopefully we'll have some positive updates to share soon.
SPEAKER 15 :
Awesome. Jeremy, I appreciate it. You guys keep up the great work. Thank you again, sir.
SPEAKER 03 :
I appreciate it, too, John. Thanks for having me. You bet.
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SPEAKER 16 :
We are back. Rush to Reason. Joe, what's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 07 :
John, a couple things. I didn't hear the first hour of the show, but did you talk about some of the reporting of the Madison school shooting?
SPEAKER 15 :
We haven't talked about that at all. I mentioned it briefly yesterday because I didn't know that much about what was even going on and kind of tabled that, so no, I did not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Would you like to talk about it now? Sure. Yeah, we've got time. Go ahead. All right, so last night I'm watching the CBS News, 11 o'clock news, and I almost spit out my drink. CBS News reports that there have been 323 school shootings in this country so far this year. So almost one a day. One a day. And I'm going, what the hell? Yeah, no.
SPEAKER 1 :
323.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, of course, where they got that number one from the Gun Violence Archive, who includes in school shootings things like in rural schools, if a stray hunter's bullet hits a parked car in the school parking lot, they consider that a school shooting. Right. If a drug deal goes bad on a school playground at 10 o'clock at night on a Saturday night and one thug shoots the other thug, that's a school shooting. If some kid breaks a school window with a BB gun during the Thanksgiving recess, that's a school shooting. So they come up with that ridiculous number. So then I watch ABC News, and ABC News reported there have been 112 school shootings, but here's their qualification numbers. where at least one victim was injured or killed so far this year. So what they did, they went to that same database, and they took out all the ones like the car getting hit by a stray bullet in a broken window, and said 112 school shootings where at least one victim was injured or killed.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's still twice a week.
SPEAKER 07 :
Still twice a week. Well, yes, twice a week. So you know who got it right? Lester Holt on NBC News. He correctly reported that this made the fourth one this year.
SPEAKER 15 :
I was going to say, I can't remember. Fortunately, Joe, we haven't had a ton this year, which is a good thing. You know, count our blessings, because I was thinking back to the last one being quite some time ago.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it was April, John, if I'm not mistaken.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, because we had some early in the year, I remember, because, again, we talk about these things, you know, here on air, Joe, and then I had to go back and think for a moment. I didn't look it up, and I'm thinking, we haven't had one in at least six months.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so, you know, but... My question is, do these news reporters who are reporting these absurd numbers, are they really that stupid that they believe these numbers?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or do they—okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, they're that stupid. I'm sorry, Joe. I hate to say that. But, yeah, I think they are. I mean, these are the same people that will— report on Denver local news that we don't have a gang problem in Aurora, even though 15 of them were arrested today, and they had actually kidnapped and abducted two different people, pulled the fingernails out of the lady, pistol-whipped both of them, stuck a knife in the side of the guy, and yet we don't have a problem, Joe. These are the same individuals.
SPEAKER 07 :
And where they get this from, the Gun Violence Archive is well-funded. They've got Bloomberg money. They have a mailing list, distribution list. Whenever something like this happens, they prepare these press releases with these ridiculous numbers. They send them out to NBC, CBS. I get them, Joe.
SPEAKER 15 :
I get the same things. They even come to people like me, believe it or not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, because they have both a national distribution list, you know, CNN, and then they have local news people.
SPEAKER 15 :
Their secondary list, right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Secondary list. So every, you know, Des Moines, Iowa.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you're in media, you're getting it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Omaha, Nebraska. So these people, stupid, lazy, they just get these press releases. and they just read them. No fact-checking. They just read them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and I get – for all of you listening, you may not know this, but I get all of those same things and more, and some of these things will even come in to me, Joe. I just read – I don't even have to read the headline. I mean, I might read the first paragraph depending upon what the headline says, but typically I'll read these things, and I'll look at it and say – you want me to interview you about what? I mean, and some of it's just a press release where they want me to talk about it and there's no interview needed, but I read some of these at times, Joe, and I just think to myself, you're kidding, right? I mean, this is a blatant lie. Sometimes I'll even respond knowing that it's probably going to a general mailbox that nobody's going to read, but sometimes I'll even respond and say something to the effect of, you really want me to go on air and lie?
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm. Yep. Oh, and let me add that ABC... even though they cut their number down from 323 to 112. Then they added, but they had to do, hold my beer, watch this. Then they added, however, there have been 487 mass shootings in 2024 as of December 16, which is one and a half a day. So, John, did we have 10 mass shootings in this country last week?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, we did not.
SPEAKER 07 :
We didn't?
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
We didn't have 10 mass shootings? Okay. Well, anyway, so your listeners hear these numbers.
SPEAKER 15 :
And Joe, really quick, Charlie and I were talking about this at the top of the hour. We weren't on air talking about this, but this fits because Van Jones himself has finally admitted that this was when, Charlie, this week, right? Last week, Charlie said on CNN, he's even admitted, Joe, that I guess mainstream media really isn't mainstream. It's become fringe media. And what we all in mainstream media consider to be fringe media has now become mainstream and partly due, Joe, to what you're talking about.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And by the way, did you see where the Food Network has now surpassed CNN in the ratings?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. People are tired of listening to the nonsense. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And let me go back, by the way, to the Madison shooting. A 15-year-old girl with a handgun, which she couldn't legally buy or even possess.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
So they're saying, we need stronger gun laws. And I checked, by the way, Wisconsin already has a safe storage law, which means if you have a
SPEAKER 15 :
And really quick, too, the one part I did read about that whole situation was either in the manifesto or some of the conversation between her and the online boyfriend. I'm not sure exactly how all that's working, and I'm sure we'll learn more in the days ahead. She said something to the effect of, I got my gun or the gun by manipulating my dumb dad, basically. I know I'm paraphrasing that, Joe, but basically that's what she said.
SPEAKER 07 :
I hadn't seen that, John, but thank you. So my question is, what new, quote, stronger gun law would have prevented this shooting? I've asked this question to a dozen idiot liberals who are saying, well, this is why we need more stronger gun laws. So I said, great. What new law, constitutional law, would have prevented this shooting? John, I'm still waiting 24 hours later.
SPEAKER 15 :
There aren't any, because she's not supposed to be able to own one anyways. The reality is, again, and I don't know if it's true. I'm sure some of these things will be verified here in the days ahead. But if, in fact, what was said is true, that she manipulated her father into acquiring this in the first place, well, Joe, there's not a gun law out there that would change that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So it's this— Other than confiscation, I guess if he didn't have one at all, which, by the way, is ultimately what the left wants. They just want them all gone, Joe. Even though there's no such thing, that's what they want.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want 400 million—you're not going to confiscate 400 million guns. That's never going to happen.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, that is—let's make sure that you know I'm right and so are you. That is their ultimate goal, though. If you ask any hardcore lefty, their goal is just take them all away, period.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want to turn us into Australia, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, Australia confiscated something like 20 million guns—this is back in 1997— 20 million guns in a country with a population the size of the state of Texas. So, I mean, it was just massive. And to buy a new gun in Australia these days, almost impossible. If you jump through a lot of hoops, you might be able to buy a shotgun to go duck hunting or something. But you want to buy a pistol? Never going to happen. Not in Australia. All right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So while I got you, and we've got a little bit of time here, because you sent me this, and the reason why I agreed with you earlier on journalists is you sent me an article talking about the brain function of a journalist.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm-hmm. And I got it right here. Would you like me to quote it? Yeah, please. And this was from a study. I believe it was 80 journalists, and they took them. They did everything from giving them psychological tests. They gave them functional tests. Like sometimes you get these tests where they say – In the next six minutes, you need to do this task and this task, and they switch you back and forth. So it was like switching tasks. So here's the results of all these testing. Journalist brains show a lower than average level of executive functioning, according to a new study, which means they have below average ability to regulate their emotions, suppress biases, solve complex problems, switch between tasks, and show creative and flexible thinking. Interesting. Then it goes on to say, the results also show that journalist brains were operating at a lower level than the average population, particularly because of dehydration and the tendency of journalists to self-medicate with alcohol, caffeine, and high-sugar foods.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I can see that. Makes total sense. To me, that makes total sense, Joe.
SPEAKER 07 :
And this thing about inability to regulate their emotions, you expect that from some of these liberals, these screaming liberals, particularly like in The View. They're all out there. But they talk about executive functioning. And, John, I know you're one and you know many. An executive can handle, do multitask. They can keep their emotions. They don't let their emotions take control. They control their emotions. They don't let their emotions control themselves. They can multitask. They can solve complicated problems. They can suppress their biases. They can do critical thinking. So that's what executive functioning is. And they tested these journalists, and they all overwhelmingly failed. They couldn't function at, quote, an executive level. And I think to be an effective journalist, you need to be able to handle, you know. You would think so.
SPEAKER 15 :
You would think so. But what's happened, Joe, I think, in my opinion, in mainstream media especially, and I think Van Jones actually got it right the other night, they're not mainstream anymore. They really have become fringe. This last election really showed that and woke a lot of people up in that industry, by the way, I believe. And the reality, Joe, is these guys have become non-journalists. They are a mouthpiece for the network that reads what's coming off the teleprompter, to your point earlier. They don't fact-check anything. They read what's put in front of them, no matter what. Even if it says there's been a mass shooting literally every day of the year, they'll repeat that nonsense without thinking, well, wait a minute, I didn't report on that yesterday. In fact, I didn't report on it the day before, and I didn't even report on it last week. But that's what it says in front of me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, to me, that's mind-boggling. How can you read that off a press release or a teleprompter when you say, wait a minute, I'm in the business of news, and I don't recall reporting one of these in the past month. So how could there possibly have been one a day for the past 11 months?
SPEAKER 15 :
Joe, I'm not sure that some of them even realize there's 365 days a year, and we're going to report that there's 300 and what was the number, 323 school shootings. I don't think they even fathom that, okay, wait a minute, we are about 340-ish days or so, 45 days into the year. That means, yeah, we would have almost had to have had one – per day, at least one per weekday for sure, plus some weekends. Six per week. We take Sunday off, I guess, when it comes to school shootings, but other than that, we've had one every single day. You would think in their mind that would register, but evidently it doesn't.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. So again, John, they're either incredibly stupid, or they know it's a lie, but they're choosing to repeat it anyway. And quite frankly, I don't know which is worse, John. When it comes to being a journalist, would you rather have a journalist that Is that stupid that they don't understand it's a lie? Or would you rather be listening to a journalist that knows it's a lie but reports it anyway? Which is worse?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the second, and what I will tell you is being a part of the automotive journalist world that I am, and I go to different events at different times and so on, and I used to even get flown out to some of the different, you know, before I was doing this daily, I'd go to some of the launches where they would launch a new vehicle and so on, and I'd rub elbows with some of the bigwigs even, Joe, guys that write for, you know, Car and Driver, and they're on this TV show or that TV show, and you'd meet these people off of those, you know, outside of those particular arenas, and literally I would come home, And I would tell my family and I would say, boy, I've learned a lot. These guys are as dumb as rocks. And I mean that in all sincerity, Joe. They're not as smart as they appear to be on stage or in their writings or whatever. The reality is they're just doing what they know the audience and or who's telling them to do it beyond that. They're literally dumb as rocks.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, I spent, as you know, I spent 20 years working for a Fortune 50 company. And an observation I developed after 20 years, you know, looking at the company I work for and our competitors, I developed this theory that the company that's in any given industry, the company that succeeds is not the smartest and the brightest. It's the one that screws up the least.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. And markets the best.
SPEAKER 07 :
And markets the best and screws up the least because it was all about just not, you know, just don't screw up and you'll be miles ahead of your closest. Now, there's a few exceptions to that, like Apple and whatnot. Right. But generally, you look at these companies and it's, you know, who's screwing up the least? It comes out on top.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. No, Joe, you are 1,000% correct. And it was a real eye-opener for me because, you know, before getting into all of that, I'm like, okay, you know, I've done a radio show for a long time, but I've never rubbed elbows with some of these big wigs. In some cases, Joe, you're tag-teaming when you test drive the car on these different launches, and I'd be sitting next to some of these people that, frankly, you'd listen to, and you'd listen to their resume and what all they've done and who they've written for or what TV show they've been on or what have you. And by the time you're done spending, in some cases, you'd spend an entire day or two with these folks, and you'd get partnered up for the entire event. And by the time you're done, you're thinking to yourself, how does this guy even get out of bed in the mornings by themselves? Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And by the way, talking about stupid, you got time? I got a couple of, you know, I do a podcast every week, and I normally include the stupidest thing I heard all week. This week I had five things that were so stupid. I don't know which one was the winner. Do you have time to listen? Yeah, go ahead. No, you're fine.
SPEAKER 15 :
Go ahead. We got a few minutes. Go for it.
SPEAKER 07 :
So one, Ohio-Michigan game. The Michigan fans, Ohio hosted the game. Michigan won. Some of the Michigan fans came out on the field. Then the fans flood the field at the end. And they planted the Michigan College flag on the Ohio 50-yard line. And Ohio State Center has introduced a law to make that a felony. Not a misdemeanor, a felony for planting a flag on the 50-yard line. Oh, my word. So that's nominee number one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Number two, let's see. Oh, the National Labor Relations. You know these shows like Dancing with the Stars?
SPEAKER 08 :
Reality shows.
SPEAKER 07 :
Real Housewives, Survivor. The Biden's NLRB said, no, no, they're not independent contractors. They're now employees. You have to deduct Social Security, FICA. You have to cover them with workers' comp. You have to pay unemployment insurance. And unionize on top of it. And they can be unionized and they can strike. That was my second nominee. Good grief.
SPEAKER 15 :
For reality TV stars.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Normally it was, okay, hey, we'll give you so much an episode if you want to work on this.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you want to participate, great. If not, don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, don't – and if you work, here's how much we pay you for this week's episode. And if you're busy, you're going on vacation or giving birth or whatever.
SPEAKER 15 :
And really quick, too, Joe, along those lines, because this also happens, and you've seen it. One of the first reality shows to be really successful – I was watching a little documentary on them the other day. It's funny you – You talk about this, but I was watching a little documentary on Orange County Choppers. So, you know, that was the Tuttle's back in New York. I'm sure you're familiar with those guys. You know, they had one of the first real reality shows that became a success. They became a brand name, if you would. In fact, they became such a brand name that the actual name of the show they had to somehow incorporate back in. into the show because originally Discovery didn't do that correctly. The rights weren't correct. And they had to come back in and say, OK, wait a minute, time out. We need to get our own show name doing well. My point is, Joe, that a lot of these reality stores or reality stars, I should say, become their own brand, meaning they are their own business. They should be treated as a contractor because that's what they are.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. But no, NLRB says, no, they're employees, and you have to give them a paycheck.
SPEAKER 15 :
Shows you how stupid they are, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. All right, here comes my third one. The Scripps organization that runs a spelling bee contest. Right. They have different groups. They've got the third grade group, the sixth grade group, the ninth grade. Anyway, for the third grade group, they've now announced that they will accept... For the third grade group, the spelling of woman— Oh, talked about that yesterday some.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, W-O-M-Y-N, because some feminist mothers have taught their kids that spelling woman, W-O-M-E-N, has men in it. So some of these mothers are teaching their children that way. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 15 :
And we're just going to change the spelling of a word because of that. That's just being an idiot. Sorry, it is.
SPEAKER 07 :
They'll accept either one. Michigan now has a law they're being proposed to ban the sailor ownership of colored guns. As she got older, she had a little pink gun, and she wanted pink, she said, because in the middle of the night, if I had to open my drawer, I'm not going to find a black gun in a dark drawer. And, you know, pink colored gun, turquoise and purple.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the way, it's very popular. It's a way to personalize even the gun that you own. You can do a Cerakote and make them in all sorts of different colors and so on to, you know, suit your fancy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, Michigan is proposing a law to ban the sale or ownership of a colored gun. That's another law we don't need. And finally, John, Texas is a little sensitive. I hope there's no little kids. Texas is not proposed, has passed a law limiting the ownership of dildos to five per person. If you have six dildos, you've broken the law in Texas. We have nothing better to do. Do we need that law? And how are they going to enforce it? Are they going to have background checks at the register?
SPEAKER 15 :
How stupid.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, wait a minute. You already own five. You can't buy the six. You can't have another one. Dumb. So, John, so those are my five nominees for the stupidest thing. I've never had a week where I've had five things so stupid I couldn't pick a winner.
SPEAKER 15 :
Unbelievable. Do you want to give your vote for those five, the stupidest one you've heard? The last one probably. Well, they're all dumb, but the last one probably takes the cake.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, limiting your ownership. And by the way, if you're a couple, does that mean you can have ten in the house, five each?
SPEAKER 15 :
Good question. Joe, if we couldn't laugh at these things, it would drive you crazy.
SPEAKER 07 :
It would. But, you know, that's why I put it. By the way, so I've asked my listeners, if any of your listeners are listening to the Jersey Joe podcast, we'd love your vote on which of those five things is the stupidest thing you've heard all week. All right.
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All right. Somebody texted a moment ago because I briefly, with Joe, talked about the 14, it's not 15, 14 people being detained in Aurora. It's the same gang that we've talked about numerous times. It's been all over the news, all over the country. In fact, Donald Trump was accused of talking about it and it being basically utter nonsense. It's a nothing burger. Basically what the left said. Even our own governor, Polis, has said numerous times, local news agencies have said the same thing, that, oh, it's a nothing burger. There's nothing going on out there in Aurora. Even though the building owners themselves have said, oh, yeah, there's a lot going on there. A lot. Well, today, today, there was a home invasion that occurred at the edge at Lowry Apartments, where basically about 14 suspects in this case, Went in, or sorry, took a couple. This was early in the morning, 2.30 a.m., before 2.30 a.m. Actually, I'm probably getting the story a little bit wrong. I think that's actually when this couple finally got loose and were able to go somewhere else and call the police. Am I right, Charlie? Okay, then maybe I'm correct on it being early morning hours. They basically kidnapped these two people, took them to another place, essentially held them, you know, kidnapped them, pistol whipped them, stabbed the gentleman, tore the fingernails off of the woman. These are Venezuelans, both of these individuals that were kidnapped. There was 13 to 15 people, 14 have been detained, mostly males, but there were some females involved in this. It's all gang-related, Venezuelan gang-related. Nobody understands exactly why these two were captured. That hasn't come out yet, and frankly, we may never know. But my whole point is two things. One, even Donald Trump himself was criticized for talking about this. Again, it was a nothing burger. There's nothing here. This isn't going on in Aurora, Colorado. And did I mention that they were both pistol-whipped? I want to make sure I mention that because, again, this is like something out of a movie where you see two people kidnapped, stuck in a room, basically, tortured, which is exactly what happened here. I mean, this is something out of a Reacher movie. I'm not exaggerating. It's exactly what happened here in Aurora. And, again, this is the TDA gang, the Trendy Aragua, or however you say their last name, Aragua. I can never say it correctly. But yeah, that happened today. And fortunately, these individuals were brave enough to finally go someplace and ask for help. Now, here's my whole point with this. It even says in the article, and we all know, these are people that are all here illegally. Period. Nobody invited them here. They're not here on visas or anything along those lines. They're all here illegally. So now... We've got tax dollars not only being spent to house them and do all the things necessary along those lines. Now we've got medical bills that we all as taxpayers are now going to pay for. And I'm not saying we shouldn't, because I'm all for taking care of a fellow human that have been tortured. So I'm not against that. What I'm saying, though, is we're now spending tax dollars on this because we've allowed this to happen in the first place. And yet we've got Democrats, our own Governor Polis, basically ignoring this, saying it's not happening. Governor Polis, are you going to pay attention now? Are you actually going to check out what's going on in Aurora? Are you guys actually going to pay attention to what's going on and quit denying that this is happening? And those of you that are on the left, which just as a side note, I don't hear much from you guys anymore. Since the election and Donald Trump literally won in a landslide, you guys are like quiet as a church mouse. I hardly hear from you. I know you're listening. But I barely hear from you. Is it because you just don't know what to say? Or you're waiting to see how things shake out and what you can poke fun at with Donald Trump once he actually becomes president? Or what? This sort of thing, for those of you that are on the left, can't bode very well because this proves what's been going on in Aurora. We've talked about it on this show many times. A lot of other places in town like me have talked about it. Our regular media, the Kyle Clarks of the world, won't talk about it. He denies it. He's such a schmuck. He won't admit that this stuff goes on. Can't stand that guy, by the way. I'd love to debate him someday. That'd be an easy one. Because the guy never has the right facts. He's so on the left, he can't see straight. Be interesting to see if he comes around with any of this, especially with this particular article coming out today. And by the way, these are things that the police have reported to the news media and has become national. I'm reading this out of Fox News, the national Fox News, not local. There's lots of local stories about it now as well. So, Kyle, where are you? Kyle Clark, are you around? Are you going to admit that these things actually are happening now? Are you going to go back to your old ways of saying that, no, this isn't happening? It's just a lot of hype by the right. All those hardcore conservatives are just hyping it up. That's what we've been told up to this point, by the way. These two people, by the way, I would highly doubt would agree with you that it's hype. When you're pistol whipped, a knife stuck in your side, and your fingernails are pulled off, I don't think they're going to say that's hype. So if you hadn't heard about that, go look it up. It's national news now. Once again, proving Donald Trump was correct in what he was talking about when he came to Aurora in the first place, and again, got poo-pooed for that, literally. Oh, you know, that's a nothing burger. I don't know why you're there even looking at that. The left really chastised him for coming here because they said all of this was hype. It's not. It's a problem. The open borders, and in this case, the Venezuelan gangs that have come in, are a real problem. And all I can say is those of you that are out in that particular area of Aurora or in Aurora period, watch your back because there's a lot more of these than just those 14 or 15 that they've apprehended. I'll leave it at that. We'll be right back. Golden Eagle Financial is coming up next. Make sure you're dialed in with your financial future as we head down 24 into 2025. Call Al today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. Okay, yeah, back to that story.
SPEAKER 15 :
A lot of people with egg on their face. Our local news, our governor. Aurora, a lot of the council members, Kaufman himself, police chiefs and so on that said none of this. Nothing to see here. Nothing going on. Egg on their face. I forgot one cost, by the way, because in the article that I read, the police themselves said that they will relocate. These two individuals, because, again, if they hang around, they're probably going to be dead because they did, in fact, finally call the police. So reality is now you guys as taxpayers have one more expense in all of this. And I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm all for making sure that, you know, humans stay alive. It's why we continue to talk about abortion and all those things, because we believe in life and every human life. And, yes, I do. But this comes with a cost. And it's something that, by the way, the left won't tell you. And once again, total denial from a lot of the local news, national news, and so on. An entire party called the left denied this. Egg on their face is all I'm going to say. We'll be back tomorrow. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We'll be right back.
In this engaging episode, Mike Deller dives into a heated discussion on the recent actions taken by Trump against major media outlets, questioning the integrity of polls and media influence on elections. Mike and his guest highlight the controversial narratives shaping public perception and dissect the possible outcomes of these lawsuits. The conversation extends to the broader theme of media accountability and whether traditional outlets are failing their public mission. Listeners are encouraged to weigh in with their opinions on whether these legal battles are justified or simply distractive.
SPEAKER 08 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've got to give an award, a medal or something to Scott Jennings over at CNN. He filled in for me one day. I'm a little worried because he's good. If I'm not careful, he'll come right in here and scoop the show away from me. You know the old adage, you're not supposed to have a guest host who's any better than you are. Now, he did admit after the show, Mike, you do this for hours a day, five days a week. Are you kidding me? But he's a force of nature over there at CNN. You know, Trump is suing media outlets. Now he's suing the Des Moines Register over that bogus Ann Seltzer poll. And everybody knew the poll was bogus. Everybody knew it was a joke. Everybody knew, frankly, that it was designed to impact the outcome of the election. Yeah, Kamala was going to win Iowa by three points, sure. And Ann Seltzer is the gold standard of pollsters. Oh, she's the best in the business. Trump took Iowa by 17 points. So he's saying, look, we're not going to put up with election interference. So he's suing these various media outlets. He sued ABC. ABC said, yep, you got us. We're wrong. $16 million, Mr. President. We'll give you a $15 million contribution to your presidential library and we'll make George Stephanopoulos pay a million dollars out of his own money to cover your legal fees. Incidentally, Stephanopoulos is reportedly livid at ABC's agreement. He's humiliated. He immediately canceled his ex-account. He deleted his ex-account. He had over 2 million followers. Do you know how valuable that is? To have over 2 million followers? And he threw a temper tantrum, and he immediately deleted his ex-account after the settlement this past weekend, which is hysterical. I love that. I love that so much. So let me share with you what Scott Jennings said last night on the panel to make them go crazy. They're all yelling at him. I mean, he's like the Christian facing the lions in the Roman Colosseum. Scott Jennings is in the Colosseum surrounded by the lions of CNN making their heads explode. Do you think it should be easier?
SPEAKER 07 :
You believe? No, I think that media has to do their job. They have to actually they need to get the facts. Wait a second. It was wrong.
SPEAKER 03 :
But guess what else was wrong? All the polls of 2022 and none of those polls are wrong. And you were wrong in 2022, Scott, because you said there was going to be a red wave. I never said that.
SPEAKER 13 :
I never said that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Twitter, do your thing. Run the clips. Because people said that there was going to be a red wave, and there wasn't. And so when you make predictions, which is what we get paid to do, is to read the tea leaves and determine, it is not something that should rise to the occasion of litigation. You know what? Scott, how many campaigns have you done?
SPEAKER 04 :
I've done $100 million, and probably you have too, right? Every time you get a bad poll, are you supposed to sue the pollster now?
SPEAKER 13 :
It's not about the poll. It's not about the poll. But look what happened. It came out from a person who has a lot of credibility. Virtually every single panel I was on. for the last week of the campaign, led with, well, look at this poll. And so it wasn't the poll. It's the second, third, and fourth order of narrative.
SPEAKER 05 :
Listen, listen. It's just speech. So what? So what? It's free speech? What about, Scott, I mean, what about free speech? I mean, I thought that this was the Republican Party of say what you want. Let's debate it in the public square. Like, let's have the conversation. Now it's, let's only have the conversation if you're 100%, you know, prescient and correct in that moment. It was a bad poll. It was a wrong poll. The media discussed it. So what?
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you know what I'm so tired of, Scott? The number one cable news network, Fox News. The number one paper by circulation, The Wall Street Journal. Number three paper by circulation, The New York Post. Number one person on the radio, Sean Hannity. The number one person on the podcast, Joe Rogan. All of these people are Trump supporters. What media are you talking about that's anti-Trump?
SPEAKER 13 :
You're not familiar with the anti-Trump media?
SPEAKER 04 :
You're not familiar with the fact that you guys control everything from podcasts?
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, of all the things I've heard you say out here, that might be the nuttiest.
SPEAKER 04 :
Believe me, there's plenty of anti-Trump media. What I'm basically trying to say is that you guys have taken over. The airwaves. You guys have taken over the radio airwaves. You guys have taken over podcasts. You guys have taken over pretty much, I mean, and now you're sitting here complaining because all you guys do is whine and complain. Your entire raison d'etre is have grievances. You don't actually think about leading. You just think about having grievances against the media. I'd like to have a grievance if I could.
SPEAKER 01 :
Just another grievance is that Republicans are frustrated. They feel as though the media has been out against them. Some of that is social media. Some of that is influencers. Some of that is is just false narratives. And I think that this poll was just sort of the the the final straw. And people felt like it was somehow deliberate.
SPEAKER 07 :
That was a deliberate attempt. That's the word of the day, deliberate. What happens when it was deliberate? That's the whole point.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, the craziest part of that whole panel, that's Michael Cohen. What is that clown doing on that panel? Was Bozo the Clown not available? Was Ronald McDonald busy? Michael Cohen, the disgraced criminal? Creep? The guy that turned on Trump? Scott went on to say, look, and this is my question for you. I don't want to burden you with all that crap, but let me ask you about Trump suing these media outlets. Because what they're leaving out of all of these debates is that he sued ABC and he won. They gave him $16 million. They cried uncle. And Scott went on to say that he's got absolutely no problem with him continuing to sue 60 Minutes of CBS, the Des Moines Register, and all of these media outlets that lied about him.
SPEAKER 13 :
Republicans are cheering on this muscular attitude from Trump and pushing back against some of this is because Republicans feel like constantly media organizations, especially in the throes of campaigns, work overtime to create false narratives that may shape the contours of the election. Look what happened when this poll came out in Iowa. The entire English speaking world was talking about the gold standard pollster. And Harris has this momentum. And ultimately what we were told was complete garbage. And if you talked to pollsters at the time, they would have told you this is not real. This methodology is not good anymore. But that's not what people chose to run with because it fit what most people in the press wanted the narrative to be. So he's pushing back on that. I don't frankly have a problem with it. And if they capitulate, it's because they don't want to go through the discovery and what that might show.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so let me ask you that question. Do you have a problem with Trump suing media outlets? Take away your support for him for just a moment. I want you to try to be as objective as you possibly can. Give me a call and tell me how you feel about Trump suing CBS, ABC, NBC, New York Times. Hey, line them all up. If they're going to lie about him, and then admit that they lied about him, which is essentially what ABC did in giving him the $15 million. Isn't he on to something? Or do you think it's a waste of time and you think it's a distraction and not necessary? Let me turn to the smartest audience in America, the Mike Gallagher Show audience. 1-800-655-MIKE. Welcome aboard. It's Wednesday, December the 18th. We are one week from Christmas. And so glad you could join us on this busy breaking news episode in the Relief Factor Studios. Give me your take on this. I'm just curious. Let's take a quick look. sampling of voices from around America. You like the idea of Trump suing the media outlets, or is it a mistake? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Join us. I want to welcome some brand new partners to the Mike Gallagher show like Equity Protect. And this is a big, big deal. Your home's title is often the most valuable thing you own. Next generation criminal technology is more advanced than ever. I've been an identity theft victim. It is no fun. You got to have Equity Protect in your corner. If you own your home mortgage-free or you got a lot of equity, you got to have Equity Protect so that scammers do not steal your equity or title. For a limited time, Equity Protect is offering you a tremendous deal, 30% off your first year, giving you one year of protection for less than $12 a month. Just go to EquityProtect.com. Use the discount code Mike30. That's EquityProtect.com. Use the promo code Mike30. Once you have Equity Protect, you don't need to check. Trust the team at Equity Protect. Go to EquityProtect.com and use the promo code Mike30.
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No Grinches around here. Nothing but the Christmas spirit. I hope you're in the holiday mood. We decided to take a couple of days, a little extra days to our vacation. So Joey Hudson is going to fill in tomorrow, Friday, and then next week, Christmas week. And then we'll be back right after New Year's. So this is our last time together before the holidays. So let's make it count. A lot of people are requesting my Denise's preacher cookie recipe. Everybody loves her preacher cookies. It's become a holiday tradition for a lot of the members of the Mike Gallagher audience, which is fun for me. It's a bakeless cookie. Denise got the recipe from her mom, who got it from her mom way back in the day, West Virginia. It's a bakeless cookie. You don't cook it. You don't bake it. Even I can pull it off. Chocolate and oats and It's sugar and goes right to the arteries and is it good? It is not PhD approved. That's for sure. But that's okay because when you're on PhD weight loss, you know what to do. And you can splurge a little bit and you keep track and then you get right back on the horse again. If you want the recipe for Denise's preacher cookies, as well as a picture of my Denise, a lot of people ask what she looked like. I think about her, of course, a lot over the holidays, as I know many people who've lost a loved one do. And just she's always in my heart. So just text the keyword Denise to 800-655-MIKE, which is the MyPillow text line. We'll send you back. The famous preacher cookie recipe, and you should do that every Christmas time. It's become a real holiday tradition for our family over the years. And the kids and I will be eating some preacher cookies. Hope you will too. So if you want the recipe, just text Denise to our text line. brought to you by MyPillow, which is 800-655-6453. We'll send you back the link, as well as a picture of Denise, one of my favorite pictures of her. I forget, I think that was outside Yankee Stadium, actually, in New York City, because she had a big smile on her face, and I can almost hear that infectious laugh that she always had. So we'll send you back the recipe and her picture, or you can just go to mikeonline.com to get the recipe. All right, let's dive in and see if you think it's a good idea or a bad idea for Trump to continue to sue media outlets. Let's start in Naples, Florida, where Edward is standing by. Hey, Edward, Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas to you. How are you? I think the answer is if the law of libel permits it, yes. I mean, I think that's just the proper use of rights, and obviously the legacy media many of us have issues with, and they should be accountable for misreporting. Can I add one other thing that's personal? Sure. I used to know the president of college. Our names alphabetically are S and T, so I sat next to him in a class. And because of that, I got a lot of interviews unsolicited with the mainstream media. And I have to tell you, I was totally impressed with the preliminary to screen interviews that It didn't matter what network. Some of them were really well-known national correspondents. And at that level, I have absolutely no issue with the national press. But what happens between there and what the outlet – delivers to the audience, I don't understand.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I'm not sure. ABC had nothing to do with a local affiliate. That was George Stephanopoulos and the ABC network, and he lied repeatedly and claimed that a jury had adjudicated him as a rapist. And that was a lie. He was not adjudicated for rape. He was not found to have raped E. Jean Carroll. And incidentally, they've put her on notice. They're going to make sure she doesn't get one dime of the gazillion dollar payment that he's supposedly been ordered to pay her. And then they're going to sue her for coming up with this bogus... I mean, there was stuff about her lawsuit. For example, reportedly she posed on the cover of New York Magazine with the dress that she was allegedly wearing when he supposedly groped her or assaulted her, whatever word you want to use. And that dress wasn't even made at that time. And that wasn't allowed to be introduced as evidence. That was one of the legal arguments. We'll see how all that plays out. Look, to me it's simple. You don't get sued for an opinion. You don't like Trump, that's fine. You can't lie about him. You can't tell lies. You can't say he colluded with the Russians to overturn the election. There's a litany of lies that the media needs to be held accountable for. This is Florida Day. Holy cow. Look at all the calls from Florida. I swear, I think it's the phone system. I keep telling Eric that. Look at that. Frank in St. Augustine, George in Sarasota, Rosemary somewhere in Florida. That's bizarre. And we've got all our callers. Oh, there's somebody from Yuma, Arizona. Let's go to Sarasota. George, Merry Christmas. How are you? Merry Christmas, Mike. How are you? I'm good. What do you think about Trump suing the media outlets? Good idea? Sue the pants off of all of them. Anybody who had a bad thing to say about him, sue them. They would do the same thing to him if he did it. So let's get, not get even, let's get ahead. Let's get ahead. Don't get even, get ahead. Don't get mad, get even. Now, I'm not sure he should be suing everybody who said a bad thing about him because he'd be spending a lot of time in court. Hey, remember how we said it was weird that the family of Luigi Mangione didn't reach out to the authorities after his picture was published? There's some weird developments in that case. Going to give you an update next.
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There's a lot of drama involving the potential of Joe Biden giving preemptive pardons to a number of political figures. Yesterday, it was revealed that Liz Cheney had a role in her House Select Committee witch hunt that seems very, very nefarious. The report from GOP legislators say that based on the evidence obtained by the subcommittee, numerous federal laws were likely broken by Liz Cheney, the former vice chair of the January 6th Select Committee Committee. And these violations should be investigated by the FBI. Now, I'm a little concerned about the fox guarding the hen house. I don't know how thorough a job the FBI will do. But evidence suggests that Liz Cheney tampered with at least one witness by secretly communicating with that witness, a woman named Cassidy Hutchinson, without Hutchinson's attorney's knowledge, which would be a federal crime. Now, keep an eye on Biden's pardon pen. Because it seems to me, if he preemptively pardons Liz Cheney, the whole world's going to know she did it. And he's trying to save her fanny from going to prison. I'm telling you, Trump hatred takes normal people and creates monsters. My friend Mark Davis says it all the time. Trump derangement syndrome makes nice people mean and makes smart people stupid. People just take leave of their senses. Can you imagine a woman of Liz Cheney's stature, a lifelong Republican, daughter of Dick Cheney? The Cheney family was widely and for years admired and respected as a stalwart of conservatism and reputable people. If the accusation is true, If the claim is correct, now who knows? They've got to investigate it, but I've seen a whole lot of stuff on social media about this Cassidy Hutchinson character. She said one thing one day, changed her testimony, allegedly after talking to Liz Cheney. I mean, it's like all these people. They take a position and then they flip it because they get encouraged to do so by bad actors. So let's just think about this for a moment. Now Liz Cheney got completely demolished in her re-election effort in her state, in Wyoming. Harriet Hageman just demolished her. You talk about a landslide. Her constituents overwhelmingly rejected her. Now she's making the rounds. She's making her appearances. She's giving her speeches. I'm sure there are leftist groups that want to pay her a lot of money to come give a speech. She's going to write books probably. Think about this for just a moment. If the accusation is correct that Liz Cheney broke numerous federal laws facing possible prison time, all driven by her hatred of Donald Trump. Isn't that astounding? To Mark's rule, hating Trump makes smart people stupid. What a stupid thing for her to have done. Now, maybe it's not true. She came back out and she comes out swinging saying there's no truth to it and it's wrong and blah, blah, blah. But wouldn't it be wild if Biden gives her a preemptive pardon? And let's face it. Let's be real here. Would that surprise you? Would that surprise you, honestly, if that happened? Probably not. 1-800-655-MIKE. The FBI, House Republicans say, should investigate potential Liz Cheney witness tampering. Holy cow. That's wild. Also, making news, and I want to cover this. We're very disappointed. The AM Radio for Every Vehicle Act fell short yesterday. avoiding a vote by the full Senate. Obviously, we are very disappointed. We've been encouraging you to contact your representatives. As best I can tell, it's Rand Paul who is blocking this. And I'm torn on this because I cannot be objective. I can't. I know that I'm heard on hundreds of AM radio stations around the country. I know that the left would love to silence talk radio. I know that Democrats would love nothing better than to see talk radio go away. It is continually the most viable format in America. Talk radio And the spoken word format, whether it's on a streaming platform like our Salem News Channel or on the thousands of radio stations who carry our shows collectively all over America, talk radio is thriving, is successful, is consequential. We do good things. Look at our Christmas campaign for Angel Tree. We're going to finish up with almost a quarter of a million dollars to provide Bibles and Christmas presents everywhere. for children of people in prison, thanks to the Angel Tree Prison Fellowship Campaign. That's just on my show alone. We're nearing, I think, $200,000 in donations over the last couple of weeks. Those are the kinds of things we try to do for our country, for our fellow man, for humanity. And, of course, AM radio plays a crucial role in notification of weather and, you know, incidents and events. They were trying to use unanimous consent to pass the bill, but Senator Rand Paul took to the floor of the Senate and said, mandating that all cars have AM radio is antithetical to any notion of limited government. Now, again, I'm torn by this. I cannot be objective. This is how I make my living. I don't want AM radio to go away in cars. And cars, the auto manufacturers are increasingly not including AM radio in the vehicle. And, you know, I don't want to panic and say it could put us out of business. But it could be very difficult for our industry to survive if... Auto manufacturers continue to fail to put AM radio in their new vehicles. Senator Ted Cruz took to the floor of the Senate yesterday and said, look, it is widely enjoyed by Americans across the country. Over 80 million Americans listen to AM radio every month. They rely on it. He said, I believe these automakers stood up to remove AM radio as part of a broader pattern we see of censoring views that are disfavored by big business. I think this is consistent with what big tech has done, silencing views they disagree with. And so this bill is all about preserving consumer choice and letting consumers decide. If you don't want to listen to AM radio, turn it off. Put on the AM dial. Put on a podcast. But Rand Paul disagrees with the premise of Ted Cruz's argument, saying the debate over free speech, as listed in the First Amendment, is that government shall pass no law. It has nothing to do with forcing your manufacturer to have AM radio. This legislation attempts to insert Congress's judgment into a question best decided by American consumers. You know, the problem with Rand Paul's argument, and again, I'm fully stipulating, I'm not objective. Obviously, I want this to pass, and I still think it's going to pass. It's just not going to be now. It's going to have to be next year when Republicans fully gain control of the House and the Senate and the presidency. But the fallacy of what Rand Paul is arguing is, a question best decided by American consumers, well, you're removing that option by removing AM radio from a car. You're not giving them the choice of AM radio. You're essentially giving FM a monopoly. You're including FM radio, but you're not including AM radio. And so Congress, and led by folks like Senator Ted Cruz and even Democrats like Ed Markey, The guy out of New Mexico, the Democrat there, this is a bipartisan effort. And look, I can tell you all day long, Rand Paul is wrong on this. But, of course, you know what I do for a living. So it's very hard for me to be objective. And look, we've got a lot of FM stations around the country that now carry talk radio. And maybe, maybe the argument is... With apps and streaming services that you can easily plug in to your car, it's kind of a quaint notion. It's kind of an outdated or an antiquated belief that we ought to have AM radio in every vehicle. So, look, we can talk about it. It's a hard conversation for me to have. I'm happy to engage with you on it as long as we all understand I know I can't be fair and objective on this subject. Because I'm deeply concerned, very worried that this thing is getting delayed. Now, Radio Inc. just did an editorial saying, look, it is very likely going to be a renewed effort. It's going to happen in 2025. And let's be honest here. Let's be real. We won in November 5th. We don't take over until January 20th. So maybe the devil's in the details. Feel free to give me your take on this. 800-655-MIKE. And look, I like Senator Rand Paul. He's a libertarian. He's a purist. And I get it. I understand what he's arguing. Congress shall pass no law. Let me get your take on it all. Feel free to join us. 18 past the hour. Happy Wednesday, December the 18th. One week to go till Christmas. 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But look, this Ukraine first policy, America last policy, doesn't go over well. All you've got to do is go to Asheville, North Carolina, and ask the people suffering there, are you glad that $4 billion has been sent over to help those people in Ukraine, but Asheville is without potable drinking water? So I think you'd find Americans pretty upset about this.
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Yeah, that's Senator Rand Paul. He's right on a lot of stuff. I don't think he's right on this one. We're going to see how it all plays out. Nice text message from Washington State. Mike, we'll miss you while you're on Christmas break. Enjoy your time off. Hear you next year. That's nice. I am looking forward to a nice... Restful break. I'm going to do some traveling. Might go to Los Angeles tomorrow for a day to pay a special visit to somebody who's a dear friend and colleague. I don't know if that's going to come together or not. I'm going to try to make that happen and hope that works out. Joey Hudson is going to be filling in tomorrow. A lot of people are getting Denise's preacher cookie recipe. I just walked down the hall. the other day and chemo one of the great team members here at salem tampa said preacher cookies baby there's nothing like denise's preacher cookies and a lot of we've got thousands of people text the keyword denise to the my pillow text line and a nice bonus since it was my wife's recipe and i talk often about my my wife who uh passed away in 2008 i know it's uh gosh In some ways, it seems like yesterday. In other ways, it feels like a couple of lifetimes ago. I miss her so much, and I think about her a lot over the holidays. And getting her preacher cookie recipe out is a good way to honor her. There are no baked cookies, too. But anyway, when you text the keyword Denise to the MyPillow text line, we send you back the recipe and a picture of Denise with her big smile that just lit up a room and that infectious laugh. I can still hear her laugh, and I am grateful to share her recipe with you. The no-bake preacher cookies, sugar and cocoa and milk and margarine and salt and vanilla and peanut butter and oatmeal, and they're no-bake. Don't try to put them in the oven. It doesn't work that way. You've got to let them cool. And I know other people have variations of that recipe. But look, for the Mike Gallagher audience, they are Denise Gallagher's preacher cookie recipes. Enjoy. Have some in honor of a very special lady. So just text Denise. And Denise is with an S, D-E-N-I-S-E, Denise, to 800-655-MIKE. And we'll send you back the recipe and her picture. Or you can check it out at mikeonline.com where we have it posted as well. Maybe preacher cookies will become a holiday tradition in your family like they have been for mine for many, many years. And thank you, Washington State. I'll miss you as well. But I will be back Thursday, January 2nd, rested, refreshed, ready to go. We're going to be headed to the inauguration on January 20th in Washington, D.C. That's going to be a big event. And look, we've got a lot of challenges ahead of us. I mean, I'm looking at a poll, Emerson College poll, that says that 41% of young people support what Luigi Mangione did in New York City, according to the authorities. I mean, he's innocent until proven guilty. I mean, it looks like they got him dead to rights as far as all the evidence, but we're going to see. We got people getting the killer's face tattooed on their arms. and their backs and their bodies. And according to the New York Post, a shocking number of young people support UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson's killer, with 41% saying Luigi Mangione's alleged actions are acceptable. Acceptable!
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24% of U.S. voters aged 18 to 29... answered that Mangione's alleged brazen execution was somewhat acceptable. 17% said it was completely acceptable. So when you put those two categories together, you've got 41% of young people saying that there's a level of acceptability to walking up and in a cowardly way And pumping bullets in the back of an innocent man walking down the street. Because he's the CEO of one of the nation's largest health care insurers. There was also a stark partisan split among those who were polled by Emerson. 22% of Democrats said they find the alleged killer's actions acceptable. 12% of Republicans... And 16% of independents do so. Now, Mangione was indicted yesterday in New York City on upgraded charges of murder as an act of terrorism. Alvin Bragg threw the book at this guy. I'm going to, in the spirit of the season, it's a week from Christmas, I'm going to give you a theory about why Alvin, or I have a theory about why Alvin Bragg threw the book at him, but I'm not going to say it. I'm just not going to. It's ugly, and I don't want to go there. But you know what I'm probably thinking, based on the track record of Alvin Bragg and these social warrior justices. all throughout the country, these district attorneys and attorneys general who don't want to prosecute people of color as a form of social justice, downgrading felonies to misdemeanors left and right. Look, we know the drill. So, sorry, Luigi, you didn't check a box. Nonetheless, I'm glad they're throwing the book at him. I hope he never sees the light of day. And it's appalling to look at young people believing that shooting a CEO in the back and killing him is acceptable. I don't even know where to go with this other than to acknowledge the presence of evil and recognize that there's a lot of young progressives who are flat-out, stone-cold evil. If you find killing Brian Thompson acceptable, you're a monster. No debate. There's no conversation. I mean, look, I'm not going to discourage you from calling. You can try. Go ahead and call me and tell me you think it's acceptable to sneak up behind a guy walking to a conference at 645 in the morning in Midtown Manhattan and pumping him full of bullets. You go ahead and tell me that a guy who, for all indications, has never done anything wrong in his life, except come from nowhere, a farm in Iowa, and become a health care executive and CEO of one of America's largest health insurers... That's not a crime. You might not like the way they do business. I don't like paying taxes. I don't want anybody killed from the IRS. I don't like paying a lot for groceries. I don't want the grocery store owner killed. If you find the killing of Brian Thompson acceptable on any level, you're a monster and you ought to get help. You ought to see somebody. You ought to talk to a pastor, a priest, a rabbi, a therapist, your family. You need to get help because there's something off with you. There's something wrong with you. Feel free to weigh in. How do you react to this news? More than 40% of young voters say the UnitedHealthcare CEO killing was acceptable. More than 40%. My Lord. My Lord. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Text or call us. Let's put your voice front and center here on this Wednesday episode of The Mike Gallagher Show. Stay with us.
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Okay, we're back asking this question again. How many people in Florida have a machete? I think everybody does. Is it required? Make a note. The next time we have the governor on, Governor of Florida, that's a question I need to ask. Because every, guys, this is a completely different story involving yet another machete wielder. Lee County Sheriff's Office arrested a Florida man accused of road rage. He threatened to assault a woman with a machete. Deputies arrested Mark. That's right. Yeah, a lot of a lot of consonants in this one. On Monday, following a disturbance call at the interest at an intersection, deputies spoke with a woman who described being involved in a road rage incident with who allegedly ran away from the scene. He closely tailgated her and then flashed his lights toward her for several blocks. And then at the intersection, he got out of his vehicle and approached her waving a machete trying to intimidate her. So he was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. They found him at his residence and they got his machete. I'm just like how many people this has been in the past two months. I've had six stories of dudes with machetes, all different, all different. Is that a thing? And then, relatedly, where is mine? I read about people having machetes, and I'm like, for me? Like, I want one. I don't know. Let's see. This... Hmm. Well, you... F.A. and F.O. Stupid games get stupid prizes. A Florida man kills a prowler during an attempted break in. This guy was trying to break into cars in the early hour of the morning. And then the vehicle's owner actually was sitting behind the wheel of his car. And I guess the guy came and tried to break in his car with him in it. I don't know if you saw him in it. And there was a man lying in front of the home with gunshot wounds. He was pronounced dead at the scene. His identity wasn't released. They said that they're not pressing charges because the evidence clearly shows that the guy was trying to break in the car. Apparently did not notice that this dude was behind the wheel and was going from car to car and was like trying to break into him. And I mean, yeah, you I mean, if someone if you're sitting in your car and someone's trying to break into it. Yeah, that's like a terrifying thing, right? You're like, oh my gosh. So yeah, that's lethal force is used. A Florida man avoids arrest by towing his own car to evade police. He tried to avoid getting arrested. Of course, he's on TikTok. And of course, he made a video about it because everything is horrible. He tried to evade by having his car towed. It's kind of funny. He, but I don't think it worked. He's like, he said they were waiting to arrest me. And yeah, he's, I don't know why that like went viral. I don't know.
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All right, so we were talking about this omnibus because, and I know we've got a lot of other stuff to talk about, but forgive me if I'm mad for a moment because we pay a lot in tax, right? We pay a lot in tax and we put up with a lot from the government, do we not? So when we vote and we vote with the energy of, we want lower taxes and no more bad government spending, and then the government's like, here's our omnibus. going to spend all your money. That's exactly what it is. It's the spend all your money omnibus. That's all it is. And we have weak leadership in the house. I mean, and it's true. I mean, I'm not here to like back pat. I had someone tell me I was mean by criticizing Johnson. I'm not here to be best friends with these people. I'm a taxpayer. Damn it. I want a return on the investment of the money that was stolen from me and sanctioned by calling a tax. OK, I want to see what what I'm purchasing. I purchased not having, well, I didn't purchase it. It was a forced purchase, like a buyback, right? This is not what we voted for. And I'm not here to make these people feel easy in their betrayal of the American people and the principles for which we voted. If people think that that's how this system works in the United States, then they're not Americans. Because this is how it works in the United States of America. We're not serfs. We're not subjects. So this omnibus, and a lot of people were going off on this, and I know Chip Roy's been very upset with it. He's been sputtering mad over it. And He's, you know, even Rand Paul had said Rand Paul tweeted, I had hoped to see Speaker Johnson grow a spine. But this bill full of pork shows he is a weak, weak man. The debt will continue to grow. Ultimately, the dollar will fail. Democrats are clueless and big government Republicans are complicit. A sad day for America. It is unusual for Rand Paul to be that. forthcoming, right? I mean, not that he's not a straight shooter, but he's mad. And to see him be that mad and then actually write it out and tweet it, that's something. They need to let the whole thing shut down. This is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And I mean, ultimately, you... I mean, that's really what a lot of this was. A lot of this was... Just going along to get along. And I feel like there are too many Republicans that think like that, you know, just going along to get along. I saw some of the other things that were in this omnibus. We got the pay raise, right? I mean, and this was in the CR. There's a cost of living pay raise. This is over at Punchbowl. A cost of living pay raise for the first time since 2009. But you do have an opt-out from being required to use. Oh, but this is, oh, wait a minute. No, this is just for lawmakers. Sorry. What? Oh, yeah, that's right. So the CR for members, a pay raise and an Obamacare opt-out. They directly impact lawmakers. It was very quietly added to the CR. Congress, and this again, Punchbowl had this story. They noted that Congress was proactively blocking lawmakers from getting basically pay raises. They call them cost of living adjustments. I don't think that lawmakers should get a cost of living adjustment because the legislation that they pass or do not fight directly impacts the cost of living. So the cost of living has gone up. It's the problem of the lawmakers and the voters who keep empowering them. So they had – like previously in these spending bills, they would include language to block this kind of stuff. Other federal employees get pay adjustments, but lawmakers specifically did not. And so now on page 15 of the continuing resolution, there is a provision that modifies the language and actually allows for – I mean, essentially a pay raise. That's it. They remove any previous language in the draft of the omnibus to block those cost of living adjustments. And this was also, there's a couple of other places that also discussed this. They've blocked these automatic pay raises since 2009. They're trying to pass this bill, by the way, the stopgap, they're trying to pass this by Friday night. And so this is going to be a bare knuckle brawl right now until Friday night, maybe Saturday, but Friday night. But they have they're supposed to receive. There was a law that went into effect in 1989 where members of Congress were supposed to get like cost of living adjustments. Again, I reject that. I think that that's an incentive for them to not do stupid stuff that increases government spending and affects the cost of living for the rest of us. So that should be an incentive. They don't get cost of living adjustments. They don't get to do that for themselves and fix that for themselves. And then the rest of us suffer the consequences of their stupid legislative actions. But they say, well, it's less appealing for many to run for office. I don't care. That's kind of the problem. Everybody wants to run for office. Everybody wants to run for office. People go to school. Then they leave school. They never work in the private sector. And then their whole career is to be an elected official. I think that you have failed as a parent if you've raised a child like that. If you've raised a child who goes to college, graduates college, and then decides that their whole career is going to be in elected office and they just skip the private sector, you're a garbage parent. And if this were medieval times, you'd be dragged through the streets and tarred and feathered, along with your basically glorified welfare politico wannabe. I hate this stuff. It's like monarchy adjacent. I have very strong feelings about this, clearly. But this is – that's the problem. They're like, oh, well, you're de-incentivizing it. It shouldn't be an incentive. It used to kind of be – it was a burden. When government – when all of this was first established during the times of our founders, this was treated like we look at jury duty today, right? Nobody wants to do jury duty except for you true crime aficionados out there, and I have a couple of you in my family. Nobody wants to – they're very excited about jury duty. They wish they could do jury duty for everybody. They love it. I have a cousin who adores jury duty. That's the exception, not the rule. It's supposed to be a burden. And that's why you didn't have people who would just be ensconced in these seats and then treat them as though they were heirlooms that they could pass down to their next familial generation. They didn't do any of that. But then people decided to sweeten the pot for themselves. And now that's why you have these people who are like, I'm going to be a lawmaker. That's my goal in life. That's supposed to be a consequence of being successful in the private sector is maybe you'll go and you'll you'll serve. in a public capacity for a couple or a few years, depending on what seat you're going for, Senator House, you'll go and you'll serve for a couple of years and then you go back to your occupation. You go back to your regular life. That's how it used to be. But then it all changed. It all changed. This bill is 1,547 pages long. That's how, and they just got it. What was it, last night? Night before last, they got it. So they have to read it Understand it. Draft amendments. Have those gone over and then try to change all in the span of just a few days. Wasn't there a promise with that that lawmakers would have X amount of time to read and actually process proposals like this? Yeah, Congress, I will say they've been inserting provisions into these bills to block races from going into effect because they feared that there was going to be a lot of political blowback from voters. Somehow Johnson allowed that to happen here or he allowed it to not happen this time. They took it out and he allowed that to happen. I mean, I. This is wild. And then the people who force the rest of us into Obamacare, they get to opt out, but we don't. They get to opt out, but we don't. Anyone who thinks that Obamacare is a good thing, let me tell you, I got forced into Obamacare. I had great insurance. Now I have some of the horrible insurance. I mean, I we because they don't they don't cover like they didn't cover one of my kids allergist. They didn't cover a specialist. There were all kinds of stuff. And I don't know anybody. I know people who have actual I have a dear friend who's dealing with a serious health issue. And it's been going on for quite a long time. It's like a lifelong ailment that she has. And I remember they discovered it right about the time that Obamacare was going into effect back in 2010. And she was terrified. And she had every right to be because she lost access to her specialist. Lived in St. Louis. Lost access to her specialist. Had to go find another subpar doctor. And then when things would change, she would lose this or have to do that. And it was... It's been a nightmare for people who had actual legitimate, decent insurance. It's a nightmare. Anyone who tells you otherwise either lives in their parents' basement or they just... They're a Martian. I don't know how the hell else, because there's no way to defend it. People who are responsible with their finances and themselves, nobody defends it. And lawmakers in this omnibus are opting, are allowing themselves to opt out. So they'll pass legislation that the rest of us have to follow and the rest of us have to abide by, else we get a fine. And We have to live with it. Lorraine notes this. This is going to really churn your butter. Congress is about to give themselves, again, it's a 3.8% increase in the cost of living in this adjustment. And that's a number also that Bloomberg Business has reported, Punchbowl News. Military retirees, people who served our country, who put their lives on the line, they get 2.5%. Yeah. They get less. They get less. And Mike Johnson allowed this to happen. Allowed it to happen. And there are people who give him cover. Astounding to me. They're the same people who gave Kevin McCarthy cover until it was no longer advantageous for them to give McCarthy cover. And then they did a 180 and pretended that they never liked him. I remember who those people were.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So the Dow tumbles more than 260 points for a nine-day losing streak. It's longest since I was born. What do you mean, wow? You should be like, wow, you're like 10? Wow, you're such a baby. Because I know how long ago that was. They said longest ever. This is crazy. They entered the history books. First nine-day losing streak. The 30-stock average slid over 267 points, 61%. Ooh, I don't like any of that. Walmart employees are now wearing body cameras in some stores. Hmm. That is smart. Yeah. I mean, they have to. That's sad. They said that it's technology that's being used a lot in law enforcement, but it's now being expanded into retail to help deter conflict and prevent theft. So does this mean we're going to see fewer of those entertaining fighting videos in Walmart? Because I felt like Walmart was coming for Waffle House's belt. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 10 :
Fewer or more?
SPEAKER 05 :
Are we going to see more or fewer fights?
SPEAKER 10 :
If there are more body cameras, I imagine we're going to see more. Dude, epic.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just saying. All right. It's the little things that make me happy. Come on. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So you guys know I've been following the story of these astronauts that were stuck, right? They were stuck at the International Space Station. Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, they were supposed to only be in space for eight days. They left back in June. It was supposed to be an eight-day trip. And now it looks like it was they were supposed to come back in February with the help of SpaceX. But now SpaceX needs more time to prepare the capsule. So they got some bad news yesterday because they need more time to prepare this capsule for liftoff. Now it got pushed back again. It's scheduled no earlier than late March. So they said they considered using a different capsule to fly up the replacement crew to keep up flights, you know, on schedule. But they decided they were going to wait for the new capsule. So they got to stay there until March. That's crazy. Can you imagine being stuck in that for that that long? I can't. I mean, that's something else. Also, a couple other things here. I think froze. I'm so done with Google and Google Docs. We're out of time.
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I've been fascinated by this. When he went to... When he was in Paris at the reopening of the Notre Dame, after they had the big fire and it just ravaged the building and it took five years. I can't believe they did all that they did in only five years, if I'm being honest. If you saw pictures of before and after, like the destruction from the fire and then after, it's pretty unbelievable. And when he was there, he was meeting with all the world leaders and they were just... Am I reading too much into it because it felt like they were relieved, right? It felt like there was, oh, we know that this is a sentient president and we can talk to him. Well, there was also a very much – a really highly analyzed clip. And they were in Paris. I don't know what building they were in. And the door opens and he walks in. And the British Prince William, the Prince of Wales, is there. And I don't really get into the whole monarchy thing. You know, there's a lot of British culture that I like, like the hunting and the tweed and all that stuff. But I don't get into the monarchy part. However, I have to say that I thought the Prince of Wales meeting with Trump and the rapport that they had between them, it was really refreshing to see. And I thought – because Charles is the king and that's the Prince of Wales' dad. And he's like kind of a fruity environmentalist, right? He's sort of like, yes, you know, could the climate change? And he goes on and on and on about it. Well, his son had given a quote recently where he's like, I'm not going to lecture people about climate. I thought, ooh, what? And he was so – when he met Trump, like if you look at – Other British leaders, when they would meet Trump, they're all like very it's previously was almost kind of like they were a little snotty. I thought the late queen was real nice when she met him. She's very, you know, she's a very proper person, was a very proper person. But I thought it was it was really it was very refreshing and very different to see the rapport between them. the body language and the Prince of Wales putting him at ease and Trump putting the Prince of Wales at ease. And they got along very well. And the Prince of Wales was, uh, They were complimenting him, so many people, for how well he handled it because they have seen how previous British officials and even other Europeans, other European lawmakers, when you meet Trump, you can read the body language and you can kind of tell like they're not really smiling or they're only smiling with their mouth and not their eyes. And it's just, you know, it looks forced. It did not look forced at all. Like they looked completely at ease with one another. And a lot of people were saying it really set the tone for the evening and that it was – I read – I think I have it here. I think it was either at the Guardian or Globe and Mail, maybe Daily Mail. But they were saying that it kind of – it sort of broke the tension for everybody there the rest of the night. That's pretty big, right? That's kind of like his – that event was sort of his reintroduction. Back to European leaders, British leaders after, you know, hit the election. So it was nice to see that. Now, I bring this up because I feel like this is kind of another representation of right and left. So the Prince of Wales was being complimented by many people in the UK for how he how statesman like he was and how he got along so well with Trump and he put him at ease and they got along really well. And it was evident in the video and the photos. Well, all the leftists decided to start attacking him. Like, how dare the Prince of Wales meet with Trump? Like, who else was going to? Why would he not? Right. I mean, if they view him as being like a figurehead of leadership, why would they not? Like, shut up. Why would you not meet with Trump? But then, wait, there's more. So, you know, his ginger brother, right? And I love redheads, by the way, but I do mean it in a mean way with him. I've always wanted red hair. So his ginger spare brother, right? And his game show Z-list wife. Did you see the headline that came out? My jaw hit the floor. So apparently, I guess because they live in the United States, they think that they're a Duke and Duchess of the United States. We don't have a monarchy, right? Can you just check in? Nope. We fought a war over there, right? We sure did. Okay. So here's from one British paper said, Prince Harry and Meghan are shocked after Prince William's latest move. They were left hurt and angry after Prince William's appalling behavior because he met with Donald Trump. And they were mad that Trump, quote, gushed, end quote, over William. They were livid. Angry and betrayed. Their source, which is them, said it was appalling. Oh, wait, there's more. They also said that they're shocked and terrified. Because remember, Trump was like, how did he get in here? He's been on drugs. There have been people of lesser stature who have been denied entry to the U.S., who are famous, who cannot get entry to the United States because of previous publicly known drug use and or drug convictions. That's the thing that will actually not – that will get you blocked from coming into the U.S., And there are examples. There are a ton of publications out there that have had all these examples of people who were like way less than this hairy dude. And they were barred from entry. So then it came out. Do you remember that those two made a donation to Ashley Biden's this thing that Ashley Biden was doing? They made a hefty donation through their charitable foundation to Ashley Biden. And it's very interesting. Like right when that donation to Ashley Biden, the president's daughter, happened. the details of Harry's visa were locked down. Interesting. Isn't that interesting, Kane? I'm sure that the two had nothing to do with each other. And so Trump has, you know, he said, like, why is he here? How did he get in here? He's talked about it before. So now they said they're shocked and terrified. And they were they said it was in a, quote, appalling betrayal that William met with Trump. Those two grifters. And I'm not I'm just quoting the Spotify president who said that they were blanking grifters. Or was it Netflix president? I can't remember. Everybody's gone at them. Yeah. They said that they were blanking grifters. Then they had a hundred million dollar deal with Netflix to make this stupid show called Polo. It was a documentary looking at Polo and they said it was boring and tedious. And it's like, so I'm sorry, but that's like some bougie stuff because them horses is expensive. Okay. And then she she apparently did a cooking show that no one's ever going to see the light of day. She had this super big deal with Spotify where she did like what seven or eight crap episodes and that was it. And then she misused like a couple like one of the word archetyped as a way to title her. I don't know. And then you got him. All he does is bitch and moan that he's not the Prince of Wales. And they're super commie. They're communists. They're not leftists. These two are communists. They're the ones who want to lecture you about gun laws. He was the one who came over here and said that we have two free speech. Our speech is two free. And they sign everything to Duke and Duchess. Like we recognize that here in the U.S. So they're livid because they see and Juan's getting some of this video ready. I mean, they got along. And I don't think he's like a super conservative, but I think he's a professional. He was doing his job. But I read so many pieces where they were like, oh, that like broke the tension for the night. Everyone was put at ease. It was a lovely event. That's a win-win, right? And of course, you got the two communist grifters that try to be the Duke and Duchess of America. I think at least Wallace Simpson had a little bit more self-awareness that are freaking out because he got along with Trump and Trump is looking at Harry's history of drug use. Like, why did he how did he get a visa to come in the United States? Oh, maybe because they donated to Ashley Biden. I don't know. I came. What is wrong with us? What is so bad about the Prince of Wales meeting the president-elect of the United States? I give up. It was nice. I like to see people get along. I like to see people smiling and I like to see them get along, especially at Christmas, especially something like this. I mean, it's a restoration of a church for crying out loud, right? How fitting that you have the reconciliation of the president-elect of the United States and European leaders and British leaders in a church here right before Christmas. Reconciliation. Isn't that nice? And then you got the grifter, the spare and the zealous girlfriend out there or wife out there in California were betrayed. Didn't they betray their family by like calling them racist and making up all the stuff about them and nonstop poo talking them every chance they get? Good heavens. Enough. Can they go back to Canada? Can Canada take them, you know, as like an apology for Trudeau? on us can you take we guys take them back because we don't want them here we're done but i just thought that like the pictures they were nice pictures this is like one of the and i know i'm talking maybe a little bit too much about it but i i actually felt like i was in a good mood when i watched this everybody was getting along in a church right I almost sound, Cain, I almost sound optimistic. Hold up. I got to be cynical again. This is too much like happy. This is like too much positivity. Can't have that. Golly. Merry Christmas. No, we got to get away from this happy stuff. What in the world is happening here? All right.
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Elon Musk, the world's richest man, just tweeted, this bill should not pass. The only way you're going to be able to pass it now, Mr. Speaker, is with Democrats. If you could, what's your message to Elon Musk?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I was communicating with Elon last night. Elon and Vivek and I are on a text chain together. And I was explaining to them the background of this. And Vivek and I talked last night about almost midnight. And he said, look, I get it. He said, we understand you're in an impossible position. Everybody knows that. Remember, guys, we still have just a razor-thin margin of Republicans. So any bill has to have Democrat votes. They understand the situation. They said, it's not directed to you, Mr. Speaker, but we don't like the spending. I said, guess what, fellas? I don't either. We've got to get this done because here's the key. By doing this, we are clearing the decks and we are setting up for Trump to come in roaring back with the America First agenda. That's what we're going to run with gusto beginning January 3rd when we start the new Congress, when Republicans, again, are in control. And all of our fiscal conservative friends, I'm one of them, will be able to finally do the things that we've been wanting to do for the last couple of years.
SPEAKER 28 :
Oh, boy. Oh, we got a lot to talk about here. That's Speaker Mike Johnson, who was on Fox & Friends trying to sell this budget. I don't know what the hell they're doing, this omnibus. That's not what we voted for on Election Day. We did not vote for this. We absolutely did not vote for this. And when I heard him talking about it, You know, like I said, he's he's he's I've said this before. He's you know, he is a rhino. I mean, I don't want to just say like a moderate. I mean, he's he's a rhino, but he I don't think that he is as malicious maybe as some of the others or he just he doesn't have a lot of seniority. But I mean, just to say that you have to pass this bill. because you've got to set the decks as it were. That's what he was saying. Like you have to pass this bill so that you can get ready for Trump and you can get ready for a Republican Congress. That doesn't make sense to me because people voted for fiscal responsibility. And what I'm hearing here is that's not, none of that is fiscal responsibility at all. And it's more of the same. Did you vote for more of the same? I did not vote for more of the same. I absolutely did not. So we're kind of at a crossroads here. And we're going to talk about this here throughout the program. We're kind of at a crossroads here. Because this is the dangerous part of victory, is when you think that victory is all it was. And that there's nothing else that needs to be accomplished. When in fact, the whole point of the victory on that election Tuesday... was to get in a position where you can actually have some victories. That's the big thing. So when I heard him talk about this stuff, when I heard Speaker Johnson say this on Fox and Friends, I thought, huh, passing a bill so that we can get things. It kind of sounds like you got to pass it to find out what's in it, Cain. Where have we heard that before? Oh, that's right. Nancy Pelosi. Good old Nancy Pelosi, right? Good old Nancy Pelosi. Don't tell, don't say good old Nancy Pelosi. So welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you here. We're at the top of this first hour. We've got a lot of stuff to hit with you today. And we're going to go over this whole... we're going to look at this omnibus because the omnibus has a lot of no, no things in it. We're calling them no, no things. They've got like salary increases and all kinds of stuff. I just think too, when you're a congressional member, when you're a member of government and you're making, and you're telling people that you can't live on $174,000 policy because inflation is too bad. That's a problem, right? What about the rest of us? Hmm. What about the rest of us? So welcome. Dana Lash here with you. Again, top of this first hour. You can listen coast to coast, all that good stuff. We got more on this because this is a big fight. This is the big fight. So we had Johnson saying there's not going to be a... And six is when he said there's not going to be a Christmas omnibus cane. Can we go to flashback audio cut six, please?
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I also predicted this would fall right before Christmas.
SPEAKER 28 :
Well, this is not six. No, stop, stop, stop, stop. I need audio soundbite six, please. Flashback Speaker Johnson. We can get that. Well, it says, he says that there's not going to be a Christmas omnibus. He said this a while ago. He said there's not going to be a Christmas omnibus. Well, I mean, if there's no, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's get it up on screen. Let's get it all done proper. Okay, go ahead and hit it. Go ahead and hit it. Okay, so let's move.
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Let's move on past this. We have broken the Christmas Omni. And I have no intention of going back to that terrible tradition. So there won't be a Christmas Omni bus. Somebody asked me in the hallway a little while ago, will there be mini buses? We don't want any buses. We're not going to do any buses.
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No Omni buses. He said that. It was this past fall. It was like right around my birthday he said that. I remember and I thought, oh, that's a nice present. No Christmas. Because how many times have we been in this position where it's a Christmas omnibus? I honestly think we've been. I'm sorry, I'm going through my mental Rolodex. It's 2012. That's when, no, no, no. It was 2011, remember? Leading up into midterms. Actually, no, go back further. 2009, leading up to midterms, remember? Ooh, before the shellacking. And actually, it worked in Republicans' favor to have a government shutdown because Republicans didn't want to pass the omnibus. And so the messaging was that there was going to be a government shutdown and that it was going to be horrible for Republicans and it was going to cost them in the midterms, and it didn't. It totally didn't. So I just when I hear people say that they have to pass this, they have to pass a bill about big spending in order to pave the way for less spending. That's like screwing for chastity. That's what Speaker Johnson just told us. Speaker Johnson just told us, guys, we got to screw for chastity. It's what we got to do. We got to do it. You know, we got to get more chastity by being, you know, sluttier. That's what we got to do. That's what I heard him say. That's what he said just there. I'm aggravated over this for a number of reasons. And I talked a little bit about this today because let's let's let's again, let's think about this for a minute. I blame one person for this right now. I mean, I'll probably be a little bit more reasonable later, but this was all kicked off by Matt Gaetz. I'm not the person who will not say I told you so. I will totally say it. I did warn you. This was kicked off because Matt Gaetz had an ego-accutane-rage tantrum, an ego-driven-accutane-rage tantrum. That's why we're in this position. Matt Gaetz couldn't get along with Kevin McCarthy, and they had the most inopportune speaker fight. So Republicans had to rush around. Instead of being smart and cultivating good strategy and trying to recruit, over a period of time, really strong Republicans, constitutionalist, conservative potential speakers, they had to race and cover their ass and get another rhino with even less seniority. That's why you got Speaker Johnson. Speaker Johnson didn't get that because he was super popular and he didn't get it because he's a big conservative. He got it because he's pliable. He might be a nice guy. I'll separate the nice guy from the politician. But at the end of the day, they're employees and I didn't vote for this. I didn't vote for all. You know, I mentioned, oh my gosh, I did not vote for this. I pay an ungodly amount in tax and I have Republicans telling me right now they're going to waste more of my money. That's going to necessitate them having to come hat in hand, begging to have the federal government steal more of my hard earned dollars so that they can call it a tax and pretend that it's charitable. Hell no. No, the reason that we're in this position, it was super smart for Gates to trigger the most inopportune fight of all time where there was no plan B. They had to race and get a bad sub, a bad substitute. And then he resigned anyway to avoid the House Oversight Committee report that's going to come out anyway. And now we've got this ridiculous bill and we have too few people willing to fight it. Now, I got aggravated at a couple of people because they were like, you know, we would have probably had the same bill regardless. Or, you know, why are you? That's not the point. Are you saying that we got to suck it up and take it because it would have happened either way? You can look in your crystal ball and you can determine for sure what happened either way. So the presupposition to make that argument is that Kevin McCarthy was always going to be speaker and or Kevin McCarthy was also going to do this. Now, I'll tell you something. Kevin McCarthy is every bit as moderate as Mike Johnson. I told you this, too. Kevin McCarthy is a moderate. A rhino, if you will. I mean, I've been talking about Kevin McCarthy since a lot of these people, a lot of these peach fuzz on X were again the day they were born. They think politics started with them. We've all been talking about Kevin McCarthy since the young guns. OK, so we know. And I get aggravated at it because people are like, well, you know how bad he is? Why don't you go read the stuff that you formulated your view to get to that point and then come and tell us what we think? Because there were people who defended him back in the day, and I thought, this is crazy. And then there were people who were pushing Johnson, and I'm like, what? You're switching out one rhino with another rhino, a rhino that has been around the legislative block fewer times and has even less seniority. You see what I'm saying here? That was the only advantage that McCarthy gave. But Matt Gaetz, he absolutely lost his mind. He wanted to flex. Matt Gaetz, I know a lot of people like him. I've met him. I don't know too much about him personally, but I can say this is ego-driven. And we ended up having the dumbest timing speaker fight ever. All to protect his ass. He got into this fight over the Sethics report. That's what all of this was about. That's the only reason that there was a change in speaker. It wasn't because the people leading the charge wanted actually something more conservative. And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. That is a lie that's on scale with Nancy Pelosi telling you you got to pass it to find out what's in it. This wasn't about them wanting something more conservative. They blamed McCarthy for not – Gates, namely, was blaming McCarthy for not stopping this ethics report, this ethics investigation. And because he didn't stop it, he had a grudge against him. And then he was able to convince people with this narrative that it was about somehow protecting Trump or whatever. Trump endorsed McCarthy, and he liked Gates, too. I don't even know why he would put POTUS-elect in that position, but he did. I thought that was dumb. But it was a big old ego fight and he wanted to stop this ethics investigation. McCarthy wouldn't stop it. And so they led the charge. My whole criticism wasn't ever that there needed to be that there didn't need to be a speaker race. It was that this is the stupidest time to do it. Remember, they were on deadline to get a number of things done. And and they ended up. having to split their resources, they had no time to find and cultivate a really good speaker. They didn't give themselves any... If you're going to be a rebel, have a damn strategy. If you're going to be a rebel, have a plan. Otherwise, what is the point? It's a flex for ego, and it hurts the nation while you pretend that it's some MAGA-driven agenda, and it's not. So now we got Johnson, who's just like McCarthy, but has less seniority. And now we're in this position where we have this omnibus. And if you think that I'm mad about it, you haven't even scratched the surface. I'm enraged. It's more of the same. More of the same with these people. You are busting your ass to make ends meet. I know people who are buying fewer Christmas gifts for their kids this year. And we got Republicans that are including things like pay raises in an omnibus when he could just pass the CR and be done with it right now. We got a lot to talk about. I'm going to tell you some of the other stuff that's in this nightmare. Our partners over at Preborn. This is such a great organization. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So the Dow tumbles more than 260 points for a nine-day losing streak. It's longest since I was born. What do you mean, wow? You should be like, wow, you're like 10? Wow, you're such a baby. Because I know how long ago that was. They said longest ever. This is crazy. They entered the history books. First nine-day losing streak. The 30-stock average slid over 267 points, 61%. Ooh, I don't like any of that. Walmart employees are now wearing body cameras in some stores.
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Hmm.
SPEAKER 28 :
That is smart. Yeah. I mean, they have to. That's sad. They said that it's technology that's being used a lot in law enforcement, but it's now being expanded into retail to help deter conflict and prevent theft. So does this mean we're going to see fewer of those entertaining fighting videos in Walmart? Because I felt like Walmart was coming for Waffle House's belt. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 16 :
Fewer or more?
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Are we going to see more or fewer fights?
SPEAKER 16 :
If there are more body cameras, I imagine we're going to see more. Dude, epic.
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Just saying. All right. It's the little things that make me happy. Come on. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so you guys know I've been following the story of these astronauts that were stuck, right? They were stuck at the International Space Station. Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, they were supposed to only be in space for eight days. They left back in June. It was supposed to be an eight-day trip. And now it looks like it was they were supposed to come back in February with the help of SpaceX. But now SpaceX needs more time to prepare the capsule. So they got some bad news yesterday because they need more time to prepare this capsule for liftoff. Now it got pushed back again. It's scheduled no earlier than late March. So they said they considered using a different capsule to fly up the replacement crew to keep up flights, you know, on schedule. But. They decided they were going to wait for the new capsule. So they got to stay there until March. That's crazy. Can you imagine being stuck in that for that that long? I can't. I mean, that's something else. Also, a couple other things here. I think froze. I'm so done with Google and Google Docs. We're out of time. But coming up, we got this omnibus. We got a lot of stuff to hit. And we also we got to talk about the woke wokery again. Woke scolds. Stick with us. Our partners over at Black Rifle Coffee. The Freedom Roast, a new roast for Black Rifle Coffee, just in time for Christmas as well. And you can check it out over at BlackRifleCoffee.com, where you can also sign up for the coffee club and get free shipping, automated orders, the whole nine yards. Now, with this company, I mean, they make great coffees. They have Just Black, Silence, or Smooth, all kinds of stuff. The Freedom Roast available on ground, whole bean, 12-count rounds as well. And you can save 20%, not just on Freedom Roast, but all the roasts that they have. It's so smooth, full of flavor, the best roast out there, veteran-owned, veteran-operated coffee. And they hire active duty and retired military as well. And they celebrate America and our military history with everything that they do. Get your freedom on with the Freedom Roast from BlackRifleCoffee.com. And check out the other top shelf roasts like the Just Black and Silence or Smooth. Whatever it is you decide, you get 20% off using code Dana. 20% off with code Dana at BlackRifleCoffee.com.
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not able to catch all three hours of the dana show subscribe to the full podcast and get news and laughs delivered in short easy to digest episodes ideal for your busy lifestyle on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcast i didn't didn't mean to do all of this to you now go ahead keep it keep him george michael going because he he really was a gem it's whamageddon
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So the contest was, and this has been going around on social media, and apparently all my friends were playing it and I didn't know. I just whammed again to myself. Didn't even know that. We got whammed, dude. What the hell is whammed again? You're supposed to see how long in the Christmas season you can go without hearing this song. Oh. And I just whammed all of you. You just got, yeah, sorry.
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I made this decision like 30 seconds ago.
SPEAKER 28 :
No, it's okay. Nobody knew. I didn't tell you because it wasn't on the front burner of my mind.
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So it's okay. A whamageddon? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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All right. You know our mutual friend Jason Church back in St. Louis? Okay, so I saw him do it and then a million other people were doing this. And I'm like, oh, and I was sitting here thinking, man, I haven't heard this song once this year. Oh, I'm doing so good. I just like winning things. You know, I just even if it's not a contest that matters. Right. Like if I'm in a grocery store aisle and someone's in the aisle with me and I'm so competitive, I'm like, I'm going to get to the end of the aisle for you. It's nuts. I have so many hang ups. But I'm so sorry. I did not mean to wham again, you guys. I'm going to get mail. I'm positive because I've seen too many of you. Like somebody even mentioned it in one of my comments on Facebook. I'm like, how far reaching was this?
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Am I supposed to be upset that you went and get me?
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Well, you're like out of the car. You don't win anything. I don't know if anybody in the chat was playing this. I just never thought to talk. Cause I just, it's one of those weird social media things. Cause I, and then I saw a cousin playing it last night. I'm like, can you play it? Or you just, I don't know.
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I'm having a hard time being upset here in the song though.
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Well, yeah. I mean, it's a good song, you know, but if I'm, but also I wanted to beat everyone and not hearing it. So it's OK. It's all right. Welcome back. Another just a note from management. So my Hobby Lobby shotgun lights, Kane moved them so we could record a commercial yesterday. Now they won't come back on.
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That is not an accurate description of the timeline. Look at him. He's stuttering.
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He feels so bad. He's so sorry, guys. Why are you doing this? It's okay.
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Yesterday we had to record something that's going to air in January, so we can't be having Christmas lights on your microphone like that.
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These aren't Christmas lights. They're shotgun shells that illuminate.
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Say it Christmas-y and color it.
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It's kind of Christmassy. Are you keeping my Christmas lights up all year long?
SPEAKER 16 :
Those are Christmassy.
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They're Christmassy in the way that they shine light like our Lord and Savior.
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You're trying to make the listeners believe that I actually somehow broke them when they were working this morning before you came in and sat down. And then we noticed that they weren't working after you sat down.
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You never had that problem before.
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That's why it was weird for you to blame me.
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No, it's all right. It's all right that you broke them and you hate old people. It's okay. You know, Stephen is still going to bring you presents.
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It's so unfair to me. Can we get a 2025 commitment? Jesus is born for you too. A commitment in 2025 where you're not so... You're not going to tease me so much?
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It's okay. It's all right. Welcome back to the show. So, Dana Lash with you. We've got the chat over at Rumble, Channel 347, DirecTV, unless you're listening to the station, terrestrially. We have Thomas Massey coming on the show today, Congressman Sassy Massey. He's going to be joining us later on. Perfect timing. I'm sure he's like, oh, my gosh, because we're going to have to get some tea. It's tea time with Sassy Massey. We should do a regular... reoccurring segment on this all right so we were talking about this omnibus because and i know we've got a lot of other stuff to talk about but forgive me if i'm mad for a moment because we pay a lot in tax right we pay a lot in tax and we put up with a lot from the government do we not so when we vote and we vote with the energy of we want lower taxes and no more bad government spending and then the government's like here's our omnibus We're going to spend all your money. That's exactly what it is. It's the spend all your money omnibus. That's all it is. And we have weak leadership in the House. I mean, and it's true. I mean... I'm not here to like back pat. I had someone tell me I was mean by criticizing Johnson. I'm not here to like be best friends with these people. I'm a taxpayer. Damn it. I want a return on the investment of the money that was stolen from me and sanctioned by calling a tax. Okay. I want to see what, what I'm purchasing. I purchased not having, well, I didn't purchase it. It was a forced purchase, like a buyback, right? This is not what we voted for. And I'm not here to make these people feel easy in their betrayal of the American people and the principles for which we voted. If people think that that's how this system works in the United States, then they're not Americans. Because this is how it works in the United States of America. We're not serfs. We're not subjects. So, this omnibus, and a lot of people were going off on this, and I know Chip Roy's been very upset with it. He's been sputtering mad over it. And He's, you know, even Rand Paul had said Rand Paul tweeted, I had hoped to see Speaker Johnson grow a spine. But this bill full of pork shows he is a weak, weak man. The debt will continue to grow. Ultimately, the dollar will fail. Democrats are clueless and big government Republicans are complicit. A sad day for America. It is unusual for Rand Paul to be that. forthcoming, right? I mean, not that he's not a straight shooter, but he's mad. And to see him be that mad and then actually write it out and tweet it, that's something. They need to let the whole thing shut down. This is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And I mean, ultimately, you... I mean, that's really what a lot of this was. A lot of this was... Just going along to get along. And I feel like there are too many Republicans that think like that, you know? Just going along to get along. I saw some of the other things that were in this omnibus. We got the pay raise, right? I mean, and this was in the CR. There's a cost of living pay raise. This is over at Punchbowl. A cost of living pay raise for the first time since 2009. But you do have an opt-out from being required to use. Oh, but this is, oh, wait a minute. No, this is just for lawmakers. Sorry. What? Oh, yeah, that's right. So the CR for members, a pay raise and an Obamacare opt-out. They directly impact lawmakers. It was very quietly added to the CR. Congress and this again, a punch bowl had this had this story. They noted that Congress was proactively blocking lawmakers from getting basically pay raises. They call them cost of living adjustments. I don't think that lawmakers should get a cost of living adjustment because the legislation that they pass or do not fight directly impacts the cost of living. So the cost of living has gone up. It's the problem of the lawmakers and the voters who keep empowering them. So they had like previously in these spending bills, they would include language to block this kind of stuff. Other federal employees get pay adjustments, but lawmakers specifically did not. And so now on page 15 of the continuing resolution, there is a provision that modifies the language and actually allows for. I mean, essentially a pay raise. That's it. They remove any previous language in the draft of the omnibus to block those cost of living adjustments. And this was also, there's a couple of other places that also discussed this. They've blocked these automatic pay raises since 2009. They're trying to pass this bill, by the way, the stopgap, they're trying to pass this by Friday night. And so this is gonna be a bare knuckle brawl right now until Friday night, maybe Saturday, but Friday night. But they have, they're supposed to receive, there was a law that went into effect in 1989 where members of Congress were supposed to get like cost of living adjustments. Again, I reject that. I think that that's an incentive for them to not do stupid stuff that increases government spending and affects the cost of living for the rest of us. So that should be an incentive. They don't get cost of living adjustments. They don't get to do that for themselves and fix that for themselves. And then the rest of us suffer the consequences of their stupid legislative actions. But they say, well, it's less appealing for many to run for office. I don't care. That's kind of the problem. Everybody wants to run for office. Everybody wants to run for office. People go to school. Then they leave school. They never work in the private sector. And then their whole career is to be an elected official. I think that you have failed as a parent if you've raised a child like that. If you've raised a child who goes to college, graduates college, and then decides that their whole career is going to be an elected office and they just skip the private sector, you're a garbage parent. And if this were medieval times, you'd be dragged through the streets and tarred and feathered along with your, you know, basically glorified welfare politico wannabe. I hate this stuff. It's like monarchy adjacent. I have very strong feelings about this. Clearly. But this is, that's the problem. They're like, oh, well, you're de-incentivizing it. It shouldn't be an incentive. It used to kind of be, it was a burden. When government, when all of this was first established during the times of our founders, this was treated like we look at jury duty today, right? Nobody wants to do jury duty except for you true crime aficionados out there. And I have a couple of you in my family. Nobody wants to, they're very excited about jury duty. They wish they could do jury duty for everybody. They love it. I have a cousin who adores jury duty. That's the exception, not the rule. It's supposed to be a burden. And that's why you didn't have people who would just be ensconced in these seats and then treat them as though they were heirlooms that they could pass down to their next familial generation. They didn't do any of that. But then people decided to sweeten the pot for themselves. And now that's why you have these people who are like, I'm going to be a lawmaker. That's my goal in life. That's supposed to be a consequence of being successful in the private sector is maybe you'll go and you'll you'll serve in a public capacity for a couple or a few years, depending on what seat you're going for, Senate or House, you'll go and you'll serve for a couple of years and then you go back to your occupation. You go back to your regular life. That's how it used to be. But then it all changed. It all changed. This bill is 1,547 pages long. That's how, and they just got it. What was it, last night? Night before last, they got it. So they have to read it Understand it. Draft amendments. Have those gone over and then try to change all in the span of just a few days. Wasn't there a promise with that that lawmakers would have X amount of time to read and actually process proposals like this? Yeah, Congress, I will say they've been inserting provisions into these bills to block races from going into effect because they feared that there was going to be a lot of political blowback from voters. Somehow Johnson allowed that to happen here or he allowed it to not happen this time. They took it out and he allowed that to happen. I mean, I. This is wild. And then the people who force the rest of us into Obamacare, they get to opt out, but we don't. They get to opt out, but we don't. Anyone who thinks that Obamacare is a good thing, let me tell you, I got forced into Obamacare. I had great insurance. Now I have some of the, I have horrible insurance. I mean, I we because they don't they don't cover like they didn't cover one of my kids allergist. They didn't cover a specialist. There were all kinds of stuff. And I don't know anybody. I know people who have actual I have a dear friend who's dealing with a serious health issue. And it's been going on for quite a long time. It's like a lifelong ailment that she has. And I remember they discovered it right about the time that Obamacare was going into effect back in 2010. And she was terrified. And she had every right to be because she lost access to her specialist. Lived in St. Louis. Lost access to her specialist. Had to go find another subpar doctor. And then when things would change, she would lose this or have to do that. And it was... It's been a nightmare for people who had actual legitimate, decent insurance. It's a nightmare. Anyone who tells you otherwise either lives in their parents' basement or they just... They're a Martian. I don't know how the hell else, because there's no way to defend it. People who are responsible with their finances and themselves, nobody defends it. And lawmakers in this omnibus are opting, are allowing themselves to opt out. So they'll pass legislation that the rest of us have to follow and the rest of us have to abide by, else we get a fine. And We have to live with it. Lorraine notes this. This is going to really churn your butter. Congress is about to give themselves, again, it's a 3.8% increase in the cost of living in this adjustment. And that's a number also that Bloomberg Business has reported, Punchbowl News. Military retirees, people who served our country, who put their lives on the line, they get 2.5%. Yeah. They get less income. They get less. And Mike Johnson allowed this to happen. Allowed it to happen. And there are people who give him cover. Astounding to me. 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Members are giving themselves a pay raise. Do you guys deserve a pay raise?
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Well, that's news to me. It's good news. You know, what has it been, 10 years or 14 years and no COA, no change at all? I think it's about time something's done. You support giving yourselves a pay raise?
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How would I not know about a pay raise? But I mean, people look at the performance of Congress and say, why should we give them more money? What about the media? Think about that for a second. And we're not paid by public money.
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I know you're not, but I mean, half of your listeners are not there anymore. You're still getting the same paycheck? What's going on?
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NPR is paid by our public money. I can't describe them how I want to, Cain. I really want to describe them in a certain way. Fecal libs. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? It just sounds better. Certain words just sound better. Welcome back to the program. Dick Durbin looks like he was made of marzipan, but he's melting. I don't know how to describe it. I don't know. I love the whole, well, you know, you get paid. No, no, no, no, no. In fact, and there are a lot of newsrooms, actually, that do take public money in the form of grants and stuff. So, you know, I don't buy that. But you can't say that they don't get paid, especially after we got NPR, PBS, Public Broadcasting Corporation. No, you can't say that. All right, so coming up, we got a couple of things. Teen Vogue is accutane raging over video games because they're like, oh my gosh, that killer in Wisconsin had some, or the guy who shot the health care CEO had some video games. He played video games. And so that, the Tipper Gore argument's coming back. We're going to get into that. We got a lot of stuff to hit. More on the omnibus, Thomas Massey. Nostra Massey will be joining us. Nostra Thomas, stick with us. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. Patriot Mobile exists because they offer the best service and it's affordable for plans for any size, business, any size, family. They can tailor make them to what your budget requires and they have exceptional nationwide coverage in all three major networks. For their Every Friday Matters special, you can get a brand new smartphone when you make the switch. And it's super easy to do. 100% U.S.-based customer service team. They're going to get you all switched up. You can keep your current number if you want, get a new one. But you'll get that free smartphone as part of their special Every Friday Matters offer. But to take advantage of it, you've got to use promo code FRIDAY. And you need to do it while they still have inventory because it's a limited-time offer or until supplies run out. Seamless switching. And you're supporting the things that you vote to protect. So it's a free smartphone, offers eligible only with promo code Friday, limited time or until supplies run out, terms and conditions apply. That's patriotmobile.com slash Dana 972 Patriot.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley, the top of the second hour. Chats at Rumble. You can also find us at X Channel 347 Direct TV. We've been talking about this insane omnibus bill and the reason it's a big deal is because, well, now we've got to get back to business because they want to get it. They got to pass it. The deadline's Friday. They got to get it done right before Christmas. And Instead of just passing a simple CR for some reason, Mike Johnson's like, okay, let's go ahead and do the omnibus. And I'm mad over it, and you should be too, because they include pay raises for themselves greater than what veterans receive. They opt out. They allow for themselves, not you, just them. They opt out of Obamacare. There's all kinds of stuff in here. All kinds of stuff. And I'm telling you, it's... This is going to hurt them. You don't need something like this right when you're starting off, you know, a new administration. And then you and then you're going to have about what I can maybe a year and a half, because don't think for a second that Democrats aren't trying to figure out how to claw their way back into power. And then you got to deal with midterms elections all over again. This is the last thing that you want to have. You know, you don't want more big spending. A lot of these lawmakers are looking, they're going to add this to their record. Lawmakers get $174,000 annually. If you're in leadership, you get more. I don't think that they should get a pay, a cost of living adjustment. Absolutely not. Because that should be an incentive for them to stop passing garbage that we spend money on. Government spending is out of control. If you spent money like the government did, you'd be broke. Well, the government is. And they think it's your responsibility to pay more because they can't control themselves. Oh, and now because they made the economy such a fecal storm, they need to be able to pass for themselves a cost of living adjustment. They need to be able to do that. By the way, Juan just noted that our shotgun lights are on. Look at that. I don't know how it worked. Cain broke them when he moved them. So we had to record something yesterday and he removed them, broke them, broke them. They never came back on again. And I'm like, I know you hate old people, but like, why break my shotgun lights? Why? I'm being as fair as I can be. Maybe. Or it's just, it's istist, because I hate everybody. Not you, though, obviously. All right, so, yeah, so they're back on. The little lights aren't twinkling, Clark. No, they are. It's because they got mad. They saw how upset I was getting over the budget, and they were like, well, we better work again. She's having a bad time. That's what they thought. They think. I don't know if you know that.
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If only Congress acted like those lights.
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I think the drones may be, you know, go back to the drones for a minute. We all need drones. Why don't we just have like a citizen's drone brigade and then just, you know, when lawmakers aren't doing the stuff they need to be doing, you got your little friendly neighborhood drone there. Watch over your lawmakers. Make sure they're doing what they need to be doing, right? Dana, that sounds threatening. Hi, have you like at all familiarized yourself with the inception of this republic? I mean, it literally hinges on a threat from the populace to the elected class. I love the people who think it's all kittens and sunshine. You're supposed to be subjects. No, we're not. So, and I'm mad that we're in this position because it's just, we... Could have had, if we had been smart about it, I think we probably could have had a better speaker. The issue, and one of the big problems with this, is that when they decided to kick off the dumbest time speaker fight I've ever seen in my life, they're like, we're going to get rid of this rhino and replace him with another rhino. What? What? And he's going to have even less seniority. And he's going to even know less about the procedures to get stuff done. What? So it was made worse. You at least could have had just like the maintenance of the status quo. But they didn't even do that. They made it worse. And I love the people who are big time fans of the folks that kickstarted this. They're like, well, no, are you saying that this bill would not have happened if it was Kevin McCarthy that was there? That's not what I said. I love people who make up stuff that I didn't say and then they get into a fight with themselves on X about it. Two different points. Who knows? But the promise was we were going to get a better speaker and we were going to get all the little things that our limited government heart desires. That's what we were sold, Kane. I'm not wrong. That's what we were sold. And we didn't get it. In fact, it was just an exercise in the vulgarity of ego because it was all done to avoid a House Ethics Committee investigation. And then now that report's coming out and Gates resigned his seat. So it was all for nothing. That's the other weird thing. Let me touch on this. The House Ethics Committee, they're releasing this report. They decided they were going to release it. And I got thoughts on those. They voted along party lines back in November to not release it. Now they took another vote and now they're going to release it. They're going to put this report out there. Huh. So... Okay. All right. Why did that, why did that change? I'm just curious as to what changed, what, what made that change? I mean, I'm like release every ethics investigation. I don't have a problem with that. So they got this ethics committee report that's going to come out and the New York Times reported it. They, but they voted to release it. I mean, it could be this week. It could be before Friday. It might be before. Who knows? Could be before Friday. And all of this came to light when he was selected as the nominee for for AG and he had to he had to drop out because of this investigation in this report. There was a lot of discussion that he wasn't going to make it their confirmation, you know. And so the he's joining, I guess, like a network. I don't know. And he's that the investigation into him had to do with drugs and sexual misconduct. And we've talked about some of this stuff. The investigation that was brought against him, the reason that they didn't bring charges hinged upon one thing that I was reading. It said that they were they could not apparently they could not prove that any of the women that were involved in the in all of the accusations and the investigation. They couldn't prove that Gates and company knew that they were underage because it had to do with like trafficking and sexual propriety, things like that. So I don't know. But all I know is this apparently was serious enough that he dropped out of the race and resigned his seat from Congress to avoid having this happen because he didn't fall under the purview of the House Ethics Committee. And that was all done. I mean, you can't tell me it wasn't done to avoid that. And I'm not saying that to question it means that you have to accept whatever premise is is acceptable. by the investigation or the report itself. But it is incredibly telling that someone who is very ambitious and definitely wanted to ascend higher in elected office had to resign his seat super fast and it had nothing to do with A.G. and then had to drop out of running for A.G., And I think, you know, a lot of people talk about 4-D chess. And I make so much fun of that. Because I'm like, stop trying to explain conspiracy theories with 4-D chess. I actually think this was Trump doing a 4-D chess move. Because I think that he knew that Gates might be a liability by dragging down all of the other nominees in the confirmation process. And so he kind of just sort of allowed the field to... To be as it was so that Gates kind of would take himself out of the running. That's what I think. That's what I would have done if I had that issue. So I think that was that was a Trump maneuver. And I think he was like, well, I don't want to spend political capital, you know, jettisoning this guy out of out of this orbit. But this got to go. I I bet on it. I'm telling you, that's to me, that seems like it's most likely. And so he drops out of this. And now they're releasing this report. I got a theory about why they're releasing this report now. I think it's payback. I think it's payback. I'm not defending Gates at all. I'm not a fan. I think this is payback, though. Do you think that? Why release it now? He's not under purview of the Ethics Committee. What purpose would they have in releasing it? Although now here's where my taxpayer citizen part comes in. Hell, yes, release it. And I want to know all of the other reports. Remember when Marjorie Taylor Greene was out there going, well, if you if you are going to do an investigation into our pervert, we're going to talk about now release all of it. I want to know all of it. especially if there had to be payoffs for some of these other lawmakers. I want to know everything. But here's what I don't get. I see some people on social media go, well, we're going to find out who we're going to primary any Republican on that ethics committee that that is releasing this report. How about you be smart and primary every lawmaker that had to settle because of an ethics investigation? How about you primary the lawmakers that had to use our taxpayer dollars to settle sexual harassment cases that were kept secret from taxpayers? Instead of, you know, filleting your favorite candidate, how about you maybe prioritize the will and the action? sanctity of the voter and the american public and protect the american public and i'm going to primary any republican that decided to do this to the candidate i love go fluff somebody else this is not what the relationship between the taxpayer and a government official is supposed to be like they're not a god they're not a monarch you should be going after every single republican and democrat that ever had to use our tax dollars to settle any kind of harassment Remember, Green said that she was going to get all that information and release it. I'm like, do it. Why didn't you do it? It's all a game to these people. Release all of it. But I do think specifically with him, I think that people were like, you know what? You wanted to F.A. Now you're going to F.O. I'm fine with releasing it, but I think it's payback when it's not equally applicable to every other one. If that makes sense. So I don't know. The whole thing is I just not much is going to change. I want you to know that. I know everybody's like super hopeful and we're all like told, oh, everything is going to change. Not everything is going to change. It's one election. And people then they get their hopes up. And this is where Republicans are stupid about messaging. They're like, oh, everything's going to change, guys. In one election. No, it's not. It can be made better by an administration. But if you think that it's going to do a 180 after one election, no, no, no. This is a generational battle. I've been telling people this since the beginning of the Tea Party 2.0 days. This is this is not a fight for everybody because you got to have you to see the long game and you have to have you have to persevere. You have to be resilient. You have to be relentless. You can never stop. It's never going to happen in just one election cycle or even two. It's a generational battle. And when Republicans get everybody's hopes up, like you're going to change everything in one cycle. Then when people see that things aren't changing the way that they were promised to change, they feel disillusioned and demotivated. And they don't want to get as energetic the next time around. People need to be realistic when they're messaging this stuff to voters. It's an incremental battle is what it is. We got a lot more on the way as we move towards headlines. And our partners, the non-firearm firearm, the folks over at Burn a Gun. This is an interesting product because it's a self-defense tool, right? And I always tell people, You know, I carry always, and there's very rare exceptions when I don't, and I have zero issue with using lethal force to protect myself and my loved ones. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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A Virginia hunter was killed by a falling bear that was treed by fellow hunters. This is a wild, wild story. In Virginia, this guy was struck by a bear. It killed him. Lester Harvey, 58. He was about 10 feet from the base of the tree when the incident occurred. The bear had been treed. And the hunters retreated from the area, one shot the animal causing it to fall. And he was in a seriously stable condition, but later succumbed to his injuries. And wildlife officials, they're not pursuing charges related to the incident. For the people who get upset by the bear, I love bears too. But you've got to realize that people who've never been hunting don't realize that you get tags to go hunt, meaning that you can only get like X amount of animals. You can only get this type of animal. It is very strictly regulated because it's all about culling the herd and protecting the balance of the ecosystem. And so the people who go off on this, they're horrible conservationists. In fact, their ignorance hurts the land. They have no idea how culling herds or how to manage wildlife. They have no idea how any of that works. And that's why certain bears at certain times of the year can be hunted. So there you go. Moving on. Doctor's warning is people are catching chlamydia from gym equipment. Okay, so... This is a big thing I have about public gyms. I just feel like they're nasty. And when I see people getting all sweaty and disgusting and then not wiping their stuff off, I cannot deal. If the gym is not clean, I am not there. It's disgusting. But yeah, there were people who said that they got like this one guy, he wiped his eye with a towel that he placed on a bench and they thought it was pink eye, but it was actually that in his eye. Oh my gosh. Be not gross at the gym. That's it. Stick with us.
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What's behind all this? Nothing nefarious, apparently. But they're checking it all out. I think it's just one... There's a lot of drones authorized. I think one started and they all got everybody's want to get in the deal.
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That's Biden talking about drones. He's not even like the president right now. Trump is basically the president. He's he's already I've never seen a president elect be already treated like the president in my entire life like this. Not in my entire life. And he's just like going along with it. You know, he just rolling with it. He's going, he's talking to everybody. So I got to tell you, I got, so I got to get an, I've been fascinated by this guy. When he went to... When he was in Paris at the reopening of the Notre Dame, after they had the big fire and it just ravaged the building and it took five years. I can't believe they did all that they did in only five years, if I'm being honest. If you saw pictures of before and after, like the destruction from the fire and then after, it's pretty unbelievable. And when he was there, he was meeting with all the world leaders and they were just... Am I reading too much into it because it felt like they were relieved, right? It felt like there was, oh, we know that this is a sentient president and, you know, we can talk to him and, you know, it went well. There was also a very much, a really highly analyzed clip. And they were in Paris. I don't know what building they were in. And the door opens and he walks in. And the British Prince William, the Prince of Wales, is there. And I don't really get into the whole monarchy thing. You know, there's a lot of British culture that I like, like the hunting and the tweed and all that stuff. But I don't get into the monarchy part. However, I have to say that I thought the Prince of Wales meeting with Trump and the rapport that they had between them, it was really refreshing to see. And I thought because, you know, Charles is the king and that's that that's that's the Prince of Wales's dad. And he's like kind of a fruity environmentalist. Right. He's sort of like, yes, you know, could the climate change? And he goes on and on and on about it. Well, his son had given a quote recently where he's like, I'm not going to lecture people about climate. I thought, oh, what? And he was so when he met Trump, like if you look at. Other British leaders, when they would meet Trump, they're all like very it's previously was almost kind of like they were a little snotty. I thought the the late queen was real nice when she met him. She's very, you know, she's a very proper person, was a very proper person. But I thought it was it was really it was very refreshing and very different to see the rapport between them. The body language and the Prince of Wales putting him at ease and Trump putting the Prince of Wales at ease. And they got along very well. And the Prince of Wales was. He they were complimenting him so many people for how well he handled it because they have seen how previous, you know, British officials and even other Europeans, other European lawmakers, when they would, you know, that when you meet Trump, you can read the body language and you can kind of tell like they're not really smiling or they're only smiling with their mouth and not their eyes. And it's just, you know, it looks forced. It did not look forced at all. Like they looked completely at ease with one another. And a lot of people were saying it really set the tone for the evening and that it was, I read, I think I have it here. I think it was either at the Guardian or Globe and Mail, maybe Daily Mail. But they were saying that it kind of, it sort of broke the tension for everybody there the rest of the night. That's pretty big, right? But that's kind of like his that that event was sort of his reintroduction back to European leaders, British leaders after, you know, hit the election. So it was nice to see that. Now, I bring this up because I feel like this is kind of another representation of right and left. So the Prince of Wales was being complimented by many people in the UK for how he how statesman like he was and how he got along so well with Trump and he put him at ease and they got along really well. And it was evident in the video and the photos. Well, all the leftists decided to start attacking him. Like how dare the Prince of Wales meet with Trump? Like who else was going to? Why would he not? Right. I mean, if they view him as being like a figurehead of leadership, why would they not? Like, shut up. Why would you not meet with Trump? But then wait, there's more. So, you know, his ginger brother. Right. And I love redheads, by the way, but I do mean it in a mean way with him. I've always wanted red hair. So his ginger spare brother, right? And his game show Z-list wife. Did you see the headline that came out? My jaw hit the floor. So apparently, I guess because they live in the United States, they think that they're a Duke and Duchess of the United States. We don't have a monarchy, right? Can you just check in? Nope. We fought a war over there, right? We sure did. Okay. So here's from one British paper said, Prince Harry and Meghan are shocked after Prince William's latest move. They were left hurt and angry after Prince William's appalling behavior because he met with Donald Trump. And they were mad that Trump, quote, gushed, end quote, over William. They were livid. angry and betrayed. Their source, which is them, said it was appalling. Oh, wait, there's more. They also said that they're shocked and terrified. Because remember, Trump was like, how did he get in here? He's got a he's been on drugs. There have been people of lesser statute stature who have been denied entry to the U.S. who are famous, who cannot get entry to the United States because of previous publicly known drug use and or drug convictions. That's the thing that will actually not that'll get you blocked from coming into the U.S. And there are examples. There are a ton of publications out there that have had all these examples of people who were like way less than this hairy dude. And they were barred from entry. So then it came out. Do you remember that those two made a donation to Ashley Biden's this thing that Ashley Biden was doing? They made a hefty donation through their charitable foundation to Ashley Biden. And it's very interesting. Like right when that donation to Ashley Biden, the president's daughter, happened. the details of Harry's visa were locked down. Interesting. Isn't that interesting, Cain? I'm sure that the two had nothing to do with each other. And so Trump has, you know, he said, like, why is he here? How did he get in here? He's talked about it before. So now they said they're shocked and terrified. And they were they said it was in a, quote, appalling betrayal that William met with Trump. Those two grifters. And I'm not I'm just quoting the Spotify president who said that they were blanking grifters. Or was it Netflix president? I can't remember. Everybody's gone at them. Yeah. They said that they were blanking grifters. Then they had a hundred million dollar deal with Netflix to make this stupid show called Polo. It was a documentary looking at Polo and they said it was boring and tedious. And it's like, so I'm sorry, but that's like some bougie stuff because them horses is expensive. Okay. And then she she apparently did a cooking show that no one's ever going to see the light of day. She had this super big deal with Spotify where she did like, what, seven or eight crap episodes. And that was it. And then she misused like a couple like one of the word archetyped as a way to title her. I don't know. And then you got him. All he does is bitch and moan that he's not the Prince of Wales. And they're super commie. They're communists. They're not leftists. These two are communists. They're the ones who want to lecture you about gun laws. He was the one who came over here and said that we have two free speech. Our speech is two free. And they sign everything to Duke and Duchess. Like we recognize that here in the U.S. So they're livid because they see and Juan's getting some of this video ready. I mean, they got along. And I don't think he's like a super conservative, but I think he's a professional. He was doing his job. But I read so many pieces where they were like, oh, that like broke the tension for the night. Everyone was put at ease. It was a lovely event. That's a win-win, right? And of course, you got the two communist grifters that try to be the Duke and Duchess of America. I think at least Wallace Simpson had a little bit more self-awareness that are freaking out because he got along with Trump and Trump is looking at Harry's history of drug use. Like, why did how did he get a visa to come in the United States? Oh, maybe because they donated to Ashley Biden. I don't know. I came. What is wrong with us? He's what is so bad about the Prince of Wales meeting the president elect of the United States? It was nice. I like to see people get along. I like to see people smiling and I like to see them get along, especially at Christmas, especially something like this. I mean, they're there. It's a restoration of a church for crying out loud. Right. This how fitting that you have the reconciliation of the president elect of the United States and European leaders and British leaders in a church here right before Christmas reconciliation. Isn't that nice? And then you got the grifter, the spare and the zealous girlfriend out there or wife out there in California were betrayed. Didn't they betray their family by like calling them racist and making up all the stuff about them and nonstop poo talking them every chance they get? Good heavens. Enough. Can they go back to Canada? Can Canada take them, you know, as like an apology for Trudeau? on us can you take we guys take them back because we don't want them here we're done but I just thought that like the pictures they were nice pictures this is like one of the and I know I'm talking maybe a little bit too much about it but I I actually felt like I was in a good mood when I watched this everybody was getting along in a church right and I almost sound, Cain, I almost sound optimistic. Hold up. I got to be cynical again. This is too much like happy. This is like too much positivity. Can't have that. Golly. Merry Christmas. No, we got to get away from this happy stuff. What in the world is happening here? All right. So they, I mean... I don't know. I thought it was a nice event. All right, we've got Florida Man on the way. We've got Nostra Thomas Massey coming up in our third hour. Oh, yeah, because we got this omnibus. I feel, Cain, like he doesn't like the omnibus. Yes, I feel the same. We're going to talk to Nostra Thomas about that as we get moving towards Florida Man and see what Florida Man's been up to. Please, nothing perverted. All right, as we move...
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Okay, we're back asking this question again. How many people in Florida have a machete?
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Everybody.
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I think everybody does. Is it required? Make a note, the next time we have the governor on, Governor of Florida, that's a question I need to ask. Because every, guys, this is a completely different story involving yet another machete wielder. Lee County Sheriff's Office arrested a Florida man accused of road rage. He threatened to assault a woman with a machete. Deputies arrested Mark. That's right. Yeah, a lot of a lot of consonants in this one. On Monday, following a disturbance call at the interest at an intersection, deputies spoke with a woman who described being involved in a road rage incident with who allegedly ran away from the scene. He closely tailgated her and then flashed his lights toward her for several blocks. And then at the intersection, he got out of his vehicle and approached her waving a machete trying to intimidate her. So he was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. They found him at his residence and they got his machete. I'm just like how many people this has been in the past two months. I've had six stories of dudes with machetes, all different, all different. Is that a thing? And then, relatedly, where is mine? I read about people having machetes, and I'm like, for me? Like, I want one. I don't know. Let's see. This... Hmm. Well, you... F.A. and F.O. Stupid games get stupid prizes. A Florida man kills a prowler during an attempted break in. This guy was trying to break into cars in the early hour of the morning. And then the vehicle's owner actually was sitting behind the wheel of his car. And I guess the guy came and tried to break in his car with him in it. I don't know if you saw him in it. And there was a man lying in front of the home with gunshot wounds. He was pronounced dead at the scene. His identity wasn't released. They said that they're not pressing charges because the evidence clearly shows that the guy was trying to break in the car. Apparently did not notice that this dude was behind the wheel and was going from car to car and was like trying to break into him. And I mean, yeah, you I mean, if someone if you're sitting in your car and someone's trying to break into it. Yeah, that's like a terrifying thing, right? You're like, oh my gosh. So yeah, that's lethal force is used. A Florida man avoids arrest by towing his own car to evade police. He tried to avoid getting arrested. Of course, he's on TikTok. And of course, he made a video about it because everything is horrible. He tried to evade by having his car towed. It's kind of funny. He, but I don't think it worked. He's like, he said they were waiting to arrest me. And yeah, he's, I don't know why that like went viral. I don't know.
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Well, his car was super loud with the exhaust. So, and it sounded like gunfire. So the neighbors had called the police. And so the police were looking for his car was parked out front there.
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But why would you arrest a guy? Cause he's got a lot of muffler.
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Well, I guess there's a law or an ordinance or something. I have no idea. But anyway, when the cops arrived, he just towed the car out while they were sleeping.
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I would just get a car with a louder muffler. And then when I know he was sleeping, I would like completely go. I mean, I believe in being good to your neighbors, right? And you don't be a nuisance. I think that's just part of being, you know, a nice person and being a grown up. But also at the same time, if you're going to be dumb, I can match that energy. You know what I mean? Like I can match it and exceed that energy. I would put, oh man, everything. Can I tell you a secret? So I can make my car real loud. And whenever I would drive by Harris signs in residential, I'm just saying. I got loud car. I got a car that puts hair on your chest. So I'm just saying, maybe it got a little loud. Maybe there was a little kick. I'm just saying. So I don't know. I can't really get too mad over this one. Third hour coming up. Nostra Thomas Massey will be joining us. Stick with us.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you. And coming up, we're going to have Nostra Thomas Massey on the program and all good things. He's going to be joining us on the program and we're going to get into the CR and all that good stuff. And boy, because he's already said Thomas Massey's already tweeted out. that he's not going to vote for Mike Johnson on January 3rd. He says, there are ours who are noncommittal on Johnson, but Massey appears to be the first who publicly says he won't vote for him. He said, quote, he doesn't have my vote, end quote. We're going to be talking to him coming up. So again, welcome back. Chats at Rumble. You can also watch the simulcast of the radio program on Channel 347, DirecTV as well. And I, you know, I think that this, this idea that I don't know why they don't just pass the CR. Why? Is there something I'm not getting? Why do this omnibus now?
SPEAKER 16 :
Even some media outlets are trying to call it a CR, but technically you can't do that because this includes a 40% increase in Congress's pay. So there is no continuing just the same budget. This is clearly an omnibus.
SPEAKER 28 :
And again, just to recap, Lawmakers, not for you. Lawmakers get to exempt themselves from Obamacare. And they want a cost of living increase. You don't get a cost of living increase. They make the policies that increase your cost of living. But they want to have an adjustment. They want adjustments. So I got a couple of other things to touch on as well. We're going to talk to him more about that coming up. Can I talk really quickly? Will you indulge me for like five seconds, maybe a minute longer? Where is this at? OK, so this is. The information that's been coming out now about that dude, the Mangione, the Luigi guy. He there's more information coming out about this Mangione, who was the guy who killed the health care executive. And it's from the clueless Teen Vogue people who are trying to go all Tipper Gore. about video games. And I feel like they're trying to use something as a way to diminish his own actual depravity. And they're trying to excuse it by putting the culpability on something else, right? That's what it feels like. They said he was an avid gamer and he had dozens of game titles listed on his Xbox Live account. And they go through this whole piece about how, well, you know, because he's a gamer. And he probably, and he played like first person shooter games. I am done with this. I am so done with this. You should be suspicious of anyone who tells you that video games lead to violence. I thought Cain, I mean, I think Cain put it best when he was on break. Only insane people are triggered by video games. We've always had video games. And even before video games, there were just like regular game games. Cops and robbers, all kinds of stuff. You had WWE. You know, we've always, I've played video games my entire life. Casually. You know, I'm not like, well, I don't know. My setup's pretty sweet. I showed Brendan Herrera my setup and he was like, oh my gosh. But I will say casually, like I'm not, you know, I know what my talent level is, my skill level. Okay, come on. I'm not like a professional gamer or anything. I just enjoy it. You know, everybody has their own little hobbies. I like to crochet. I like to bake. And I like to like, you know, shoot monsters in the face. It's great. But I played games my entire life. I mean, from like the old Nintendo. Do you remember, Kane, what is the name? And I was trying to Google it and it wasn't. Was it Qbert? Was that the little thing that would hop on the little lighted?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 28 :
Qbert.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. It looked like a pyramid of cubes that you would jump on. What game system was that?
SPEAKER 27 :
Was that Atari?
SPEAKER 16 :
Qbert. Was that ColecoVision? What was it first on?
SPEAKER 27 :
I think Qbert was Atari.
SPEAKER 16 :
It might have been. I'd have to look. I think it was like the first time I ever saw it at home, I thought it was like a ColecoVision type setup. I didn't know that one.
SPEAKER 28 :
I got interested in video games when I was a kid because my older cousin would play video games. And we would sit in the den, and I would just sit there and watch him. I watched. I enjoyed watching him. And I learned a lot about it, and he was really good. And it was Qbert. It was the E.T. game. And I'm trying to think of something. Zelda, Legend of Zelda. And the first... Yeah, Zelda's Nintendo. Well, yeah, he started with the Atari. And then he got a Nintendo. And then I remember when I got a Nintendo for Christmas and I lost my mind. I was one of those kids in one of the videos, like losing my mind. And, you know, I had a pretty sweet setup. I had a little bitty dinky TV. And then, like, on a little old coffee, like a little old end table in the corner of an unused room in our house. And I had my little game system up there. And I had a pillow that I would sit on on the floor. And that was a sweet setup for back in the day, Kane, right? Like, we didn't have none of those, like, you know, lighted towers. We didn't do that. That was my super sweet setup, man. And I had a coaster for putting my soda on. If I got if I had a soda or I had juice or something, you know. Oh, my gosh. I mean, I got in trouble for playing when I shouldn't have been. Oh, man. I'll never forget the one time I was right at the very end. I can't remember what level because see, you had to go all the way back to the beginning. There was no we're going to restart you at a certain point. You got to start over. And I was almost there. My mom got mad at me because I was playing and I should have been doing chores or something. And she pulled It's like mom Why did you do this? But i've always played when I was pregnant with my first born I had to go to the hospital to be induced and at midnight at 1201 And I was you know, we didn't live that far from the hospital and I was like 10 o'clock playing mortal combat So I did and after he was born the nights that he wouldn't sleep and I had to constantly hold him and rock him I would hold him and rock him and I would literally play video games So my husband could sleep and go into work. That's what I did. So I've always played. And I taught my kids how to play video games and introduced them to that. And now they have surpassed. The Padawans are now the masters. And I have to ask them questions. This is full circle. But I say this because I've known people throughout my life who've played games and no one's ever done anything like this. None of them ever do anything like this because people who say, well, it desensitizes you. No, it doesn't. There is, and I've played some pretty, pretty graphic, you know, violent stuff. And it does not desensitize you because it's a video game. Oh my gosh. I have gone hunting. That is nothing like playing a video game. When you are harvesting an animal and taking its life, it is entirely different from playing video games. And the people who argue otherwise, God love you. You have no idea. You've either never hunted or you've never fired a gun or you have never played a more like a first person shooter. Now I do have one rule. My mom never had a rule with anything I played. She didn't care. I could listen to whatever. I could do whatever. I never had any limitations on anything I could read, watch, or listen to. If I wanted to sneak into an R-rated movie, she wouldn't care. She just didn't care. She knew what battles to pick, and she was like, eh. When they came out with GTA, I never played GTA. I never wanted to, and I never allowed it in my house. Because I was like, I'm not going to glorify crime. If you're going to play and you're going to do this, you got to be a good guy fighting the baddies. Well, unless it's like, you know, two against two and you got your taking turns like cops and robbers. You know what I mean? But we're not going to sit here and pretend to be like, you know, carjackers and, you know, get with hookers and stuff. We're not doing that. That's the only thing because I just thought that's and I don't like that. So, and I always liked, like, fantasy game. I always liked to have zombies or monsters or something. Although I did really enjoy, before they got real stupid with Tencent and Blizzard, Cold War. Because, you know, you literally got to go into the Kremlin and just, like, pop some commies. And it was wild. It was so great. You know, you got to fight the Viet Cong. It was crazy. That was a great game. And but I like, you know, like Elden Ring, which is one of the most frustrating things I've ever played in my entire life is fantastical and beautiful. So frustrating. And I have to take breaks from it. My son introduced me to Lords of the Fallen. Another one. It's really it's a beautiful game. It's great to play. Space Marine 2. Great game to play. But you're fighting, you know, you're fighting monsters. You're fighting. There's good and evil. None of this is maybe you want to go out and shoot anything up. And again, I've been doing this since I was a kid. I played Doom as a kid. I played Doom on my PC. As a teen. None of that ever made me want. I played. Castlevania. All the stuff that I played. There were like doom rip offs that I played. So. This idea that this leads to this. No. Someone who is predisposed to evil. Is going to be evil. No matter. What they have. As a hobby. No matter what it is, if they're evil, they're predisposed to it. If they are predisposed to committing murder, nothing else is going to influence that. It is something in them already broken. This is the same argument that anti-gun people use. They argue that the introduction of an inanimate object makes you violent, makes you evil. Oh my gosh, if only we got rid of the guns, all the evil would stop. If only we had more laws or more this. It's the same formula, but it's tipper gourd for video games. They're not even remotely desensitizing. I am stunned when I hear smart people say that, like my jaw hits the floor because it is nothing like, you know, the only life I've ever taken has been that of a deer. It's nothing like that. Nothing. And Penn and Teller did a really great deep dive on this like over 10 years ago. And it was on their show called BS. And I think you can still find it on YouTube. I would really encourage you to go watch it because they took, you know, these kids that were that the parents were hearing these arguments about violent video games and that and they took them to a range. And these kids, I mean, it was very different. And they were talking to therapists and psychologists. And I think this is like a new thing that really started cropping up. And I don't know why some people on the right buy into it. I mean, if first-person shooter games aren't your thing, that's fine. But this argument that they lead to this is a progressive argument. And it excuses the innate evil that somebody else has. You're blaming innocent people for the choices of an evil person. Do not allow evil to lessen the penalty or culpability on itself by trying to cling to something else as an excuse. Evil is evil regardless. It's like saying, well, all these killers wore shoes, so shoes must. It's an anti-gun argument. And it's fun. Games are fun. And people who say that they're antisocial, they're not. I mean, you can choose if you, but most people don't. You meet up with your friends and you couch co-op and you do. And a lot of times, like when my family, when we're not all together, sometimes the only family time that we can get is that because we're all in different places. And I think that that's a great thing. It was great for kids during lockdown because they still got to like, you know, chill and hang out. And, you know, it's just, it's fun. I think people don't understand it and they shouldn't use their lack of understanding about it as an argument against it.
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SPEAKER 16 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 28 :
All right, so... We've got New Jersey residents who say that they have alarming symptoms after encounters with drones. I know. They said that it's in the whole tri-state area. They said that they become seriously ill after seeing drones in the sky. Blocked sinuses, coughing up lungs. Well, not like literally, but it felt like it, they said. They said that they all, it sounds like they all have sinus infections. But some people are like, well, it is the start of the flu season. I'm going to blame aliens. So you can take all that nonsense excuse. It's aliens that are infecting us. Everybody with sinus infections. There it is. There's the, that's it. That's the tweet. That's the tweet. So that's I mean, when I first read this headline sidebar real quick, I thought they were going to say that they had like exposure, like nuclear exposure, like symptoms is what I thought. But that's not ultimately what it was. OK, I'm going to try to get this open. But why is it that my browser, everything decides to crash, like literally when we do quick five? Every single time it does this. All right. So we're back. So this drone hunters FBI is telling drone hunters to stop pointing lasers in the sky as plane pilots are getting hit in the eyes. Let's not do that. And then they said that there are orbs are at impossible altitudes. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying. I mean, is it a government? A new study. I believe this a new study. I don't think it's just Americans. I think everybody, our society is fighting an intelligence deficit. Like there, I think that there's a virus of stupidity that's spreading. I think it started with communists and it's spreading everywhere. And they said that there's a new study showing that there's an alarming IQ decline across four out of five key areas. And they said that, uh, it's called the reverse Flynn effect. The steady rise in IQ scores throughout the 20th century may have reversed. That's what they think. Um, I don't know. Have you seen some of the stuff that's happening in society? People can't even define what a woman is. So are you surprised that IQ would be declining? Coming up, Nostra Thomas Massey on the budget fight. And he says he's no for Mike Johnson for speaker in January. Stay with us. He's next.
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SPEAKER 28 :
We've got Congressman Nostra Thomas Massey's new theme song. Because you know how everybody, every superhero needs a theme song. So we have his. We've got it. It came from Kill Bill because this bill needs to die. Yeah. Kill this bill. So we're just going to go right to him. The great congressman from the beautiful state of Kentucky. We're calling him Nostra Thomas now. Representative Nostra Thomas Massey, one of the smart. I think he actually is the smartest person in D.C. I think he's the smartest guy in Congress, at least smartest guy in D.C. He joins us now because he has been. Well, kind of where we all are with this omnibus bill and government spending and speaker leadership. We could get into all of it, but it's so good to see you. Merry Christmas, my friend.
SPEAKER 19 :
Merry Christmas, Dana. You know, I'd like to say I'm predicting the future, but I'm just observing the past 12 years. And it doesn't matter if it's Nancy Pelosi or John Boehner, or in this case, Mike Johnson, we get the same lump of coal right before Christmas every single year. And they use the pressure of, I know this is hard to believe, we are human, like politicians are human. And all of my colleagues, including myself, want to go home for Christmas so they know the optimal time to put this load of crap in front of us. is when we wanna go home and they'll tell us, they will literally tell you, if you don't vote for the steaming pile of poo, you're gonna be here over Christmas break. And that's what I predicted in September, and that's what we have here in December.
SPEAKER 28 :
I just, it's so frustrating that this always goes down to the line right before Christmas. I mean, why can't, why can't the speaker just say, we're doing a CR, you know, we're good. We're just going to do that. Or even like demand a standalone spending bill. Why does it have to be this giant omnibus?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, look, given the results of the election, it should just be a clean CR, right? If you IS three more months until, you know, Trump gets here and gets all of his cabinet, confirmed, okay, that's fine. That's a 30-page bill. It takes 30 pages to do what's called a continuing resolution, or CR for short. They've got 1,500 pages. They've got patent legislation here. They've got everything.
SPEAKER 28 :
They got their pay increases.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's it's in there.
SPEAKER 28 :
Let me let me interject. Do you think that members of Congress should be giving themselves lawmakers should be giving themselves adjusted cost of living pay increases when it's their policies that make inflation so bad? And we all don't get to do that in our day to day lives, but they can. Shouldn't that be an incentive for them to spend less money?
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, it would be better if it was just called a raise, but they call it cost of living, right? Cost of living adjustment. Well, who increased the cost of living? Congress did by spending all of this money, trillions of dollars during COVID in the money cannon. We monetized our debt. We loaned ourselves the money after we printed it. And that cost of living that has increased, it's because of us. So I might be willing to go to bat for a pay raise if we had done our jobs, if we hadn't actually increased the cost of living. It should almost be like a negative cost of living adjustment. Whatever the cost of living goes up while you're in office, your pay should go down. So you're incentivized not to have a cost of living increase for the American people.
SPEAKER 28 :
I just want to marinate that for a little bit. First off, we're cutting that and putting that on social media because that's a brilliant proposal from Representative Nostra Thomas Massey, who's joining us here our last week as we go into Christmas. And I think that's a great point. It also included in this and correct me if I'm wrong, but did I read that lawmakers are now also exempting themselves from Obamacare, too? We can't, but they can.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. And you know what? I don't know exactly about that provision. I've heard that's in there. I believe it's in there. Staff members in Congress have figured out a loophole to get out of Obamacare. So there's some staff members, not my own staff, who've gotten out of Obamacare already. Now, and there are members of Congress who, you know, are supposed to be in Obamacare. Now, I will take this opportunity to tell you I've been here 12 years and I've never taken the taxpayer funded health care. So I'm not even sure what the plan is that congressmen get right now because I've never taken it. Because I lived on a farm before I came here and I didn't have a full time job, I had to buy my own health care, paid all my own premiums. And I've kept doing that since I came to Congress, even though I could have had the taxpayers pay for it. So whether it's Obamacare or whether it's Mike Johnson care, You are getting care if you're in Congress. Most are. So, I mean, maybe that's what you should be upset about.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah, we're talking with Congressman Thomas, a.k.a. Nostra Thomas Massey from the beautiful state of Kentucky. And I want to get into the speakers. You've said you're not going to you're not voting for Johnson come up in January. You do not support him for speaker.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I had all the grievances that are still with me. And I've told Mike Johnson this, the particular among them, he was the deciding vote in the FISA reauthorization for an intelligence surveillance act. They have turned that on American people. They are spying on us without warrants. My goodness, we've exposed so many things in the judiciary committee. Jim Jordan has led the effort to make sure that the government gets a warrant before it spies on Americans, before it surveils Americans. But Mike and Mike Johnson used to be on our committee on our judiciary committee supported that position. When he became speaker, he took the opposite position. Now he says he spent time in a skiff. That's our, secure area where we get classified briefings. And something he learned in there changed his mind. Well, I remember Mike Johnson, I was in that same skiff with him for three and a half hours when the CIA, the DNI, and the FBI briefed us. And we didn't hear, I didn't hear one thing in that briefing where they said that would have saved Americans to not get a warrant. That's my first grievance. I've got other grievances, like the day all the Democrats were waving the Ukrainian flag on the floor of the House because Mike Johnson completely capitulated, gave another $100 billion to Ukraine. And then that's all before we get to today, which is this. One reporter said, what's your reason? I said, Mike Johnson just gave me another 1,557 reasons not to vote for it. It's this omnibus bill.
SPEAKER 28 :
So then that leads into, well, then who would you support as speaker? And why wouldn't you run for it? Because we all want you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oof. Okay. There's some things to unpack there. First of all, I have a person in mind, but I'm not going to say that name.
SPEAKER 28 :
Can you give us a hint for Christmas? It is Christmas coming up. Just a gift hint. Just a little hint. We'll keep it here. Cone of silence.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know in my family, we always had one present you could unwrap on Christmas Eve.
SPEAKER 28 :
Can that be ours?
SPEAKER 19 :
No, this is not that present.
SPEAKER 28 :
I tried, everybody.
SPEAKER 19 :
I tried. But listen, the reason I'm doing that is to protect that person.
SPEAKER 28 :
Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense.
SPEAKER 19 :
So, you know, I do have a person in mind. There are people that can do this job much better than Mike Johnson could do it. The headwind... that I'm facing is, you know, there's sort of a Kumbaya moment after the election where president Trump is like, Hey, Mike's not so bad. And, um, if everybody thinks that the presidents for Mike Johnson is hard to go against Mike Johnson for anybody that wants to run against him, but I'm going to go in there. I'm going to try to put a stick in the spokes of this bicycle. And I think, listen, If Mike Johnson fails to get 218 votes, there are people here who will step on each other's backs to get to be speaker, right? Like there'll be no shortage of candidates once they see Mike Johnson stumble. So there is kind of a,
SPEAKER 28 :
We didn't we didn't see that with the McCarthy, but I felt like people thought it was they were very unsure. It seemed to me that other members, you know, your fellow members of Congress were really unsure at that time because it didn't seem like a lot of people were stepping up. But now, you know, if Johnson's out, then I mean, because it is a new Congress, Republican, everything coming in in January. So it seems like it would be more favorable ground.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. The first election of McCarthy isn't a good example. But when they vacated McCarthy, OK, in last fall. there was like a dozen or 15 people running for speaker like it did the body wasn't cold yet right and running for speaker it wasn't even pronounced there was no toe tag on it and they were right Like, I think you'll get the same thing here. And here's the other thing, Dana. I wouldn't be doing this to go against the mandate that Trump has. I would be doing it because I see that Mike Johnson is on a collision course with the mandate that we were given in November, on November 4th, when they gave us that Senate, the House, and the White House. And I think it's foolish to think you get to start over with Mike Johnson with this new mandate, particularly in light of the CR that he's putting on the floor today.
SPEAKER 28 :
you brought up a really good point because you would also, and I saw that Elon Musk was saying that anybody who voted for this needs to be primaried. And that brings in Doge, because if you have a speaker who, And and of the House who is dragging his feet at just some of the most simplest things you could do for austerity, you know, and getting a good budget. How do you expect Doge, which is basically an advocacy outfit? How do you expect how do anybody expect Doge's recommendations to be taken and adopted by members of Congress if they can't even do this with the budget?
SPEAKER 19 :
Listen, I've said the Doge recommendations are like the U.S. Constitution. They'll be great if you can get my colleagues to follow them. You can't even get them to follow the Constitution. How are you going to get them to follow Doge recommendations? Well, I've kind of got a plan for that as well. There's a Doge committee. There's a Doge caucus. Now, what would be interesting, how many of those Doge caucus vote for this CR?
SPEAKER 28 :
They should have to leave the caucus if they vote for this.
SPEAKER 19 :
They should be. They should be disqualified. But I think we need a Doge voting block. And the only way you're in the voting block is if you vote consistently with putting Doge in reconciliation. So there, let me... You wanted me to tell you the future because I am Nostra Thomas. You wanted me to tell you about the speaker race. Let me tell you the three votes that are going to matter next year. Okay. The speaker's vote, that is the most important vote we're going to take all of next year. And then the next two important votes are the two reconciliation. They say we get two bites at the apple next year because those are the only bills we know can move through the Senate. But it's hard to understand reconciliation rules. So I've told Vivek, you should feed those rules into artificial intelligence. And then use AI against the Senate parliamentarian. Feed in all the crap that the Democrats have got, like the Inflation Reduction Act, using reconciliation. And then tell AI, here's what I want to do. How do I do it with reconciliation so that the Senate parliamentarian cannot stop me? Okay, that's the only prompt you need to give AI. Boom, you get your answers. Now, the senators can't say, oh, that won't work because we're using AI. Anyways, now that's not good enough. You need Doge to have what I'll call Senate-compliant recommendations so they can't just miss. And then you need some people in the House who say, I will not vote for reconciliation unless you implement these DOGE recommendations. And it wouldn't take too many votes because the blessing we have here is the thin majority. Everybody's wringing their hands over the thin majority. I'm clapping my hands because it means if you had a DOGE voting block of like five people, you could say, nope, this is a swamp reconciliation bill, not a DOGE bill. We demand DOGE.
SPEAKER 28 :
We demand Doge. I love that. That is actually a really brilliant way to use AI. I'm so excited for the plans that you have. And I am. Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited to see who you're going to be pushing for House Speaker coming up in January because it's going to be here. I mean, we're flying through December. It's going to be here really quickly. Last question for you, because I know we're running out of time. Congressman Nostra Thomas, we always appreciate your time. The biggest hurdle, because I know when when when everybody when new congresses comes in in january uh trump's inaugurated he really has to hit the ground running he has to outmaneuver with speed all gas no break the bureaucratic state and get around them to do everything that he needs to do before midterms and then in the four years that he has what is the what is the your the biggest concern that you have and how can people i'm just thinking the pressure campaign on social media might be helpful what do you how can people help speed this up and make this more of a secure strategy?
SPEAKER 19 :
I think you're absolutely right, Dana. When I spoke to the president about a week after the election, I told him, I think you have about six months to get your mandate. It's that short. I know it's a four-year presidential term, but my colleagues, there's, Congress lasts two years. There's the first half of the inning where you can score points and And then the second year of a two year Congress, everybody's afraid of their own shadow and almost get nothing done because they're all thinking about getting reelected. So it's that first year of Trump's term and really six months before the momentum. And you're going to have some senators over there. They're going to be the main impediment. I think the senators. I'm not going to say their names.
SPEAKER 28 :
It's OK if you do. Kona silence. No one will know.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Like Murkowski.
SPEAKER 28 :
Murkowski, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. I see.
SPEAKER 28 :
I knew that was coming.
SPEAKER 19 :
And anyways, another certain senator from Maine. Oh, yeah.
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And then our speaker that rhymes with Johnson. But those are your problems. There you go. Okay. And you just have to, I think Doge, the most powerful thing they have is to shame, just to shame my colleagues who keep wanting to do the same stupid things over and over. And public pressure, it's, I mean, I have joked when I talk to kids who want to get into politics and they say they're majoring political science, I said, you need to major in theater, but if your heart's set on poli sci, do a double major and call it political theater. It's exactly it. It is exactly it. You can serve on the oversight committee, the judiciary committee. You can be in leadership. But a lot of it is messaging. And so we've got, I mean, Trump's, he's got a mandate. He can't let Mike Johnson or whoever becomes speaker do what Paul Ryan did. It's like, you know, in a boxing match where they just like grab the other boxer.
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Yeah, they hug each other for a while.
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Yeah, spore anything. You can't let somebody here in Congress do that to call them out when they did.
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There we go. We're going to be watching it. I hope you have a wonderful Christmas season, Congressman, and a wonderful new year. And we're so grateful for you being a voice of reason in D.C. I don't know what we'd do without you. God bless you, my friend. Congressman Nostra Thomas Massey, everybody. Thank you, sir. Merry Christmas.
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In this episode of Mobile Estate Planning, host Michael Bailey addresses the common holiday rush to complete estate plans. Many clients feel the pressure to start or finish their estate planning before the year's end, but Michael shares his insights on why proper estate planning should not be rushed. He explains his process, the time it requires, and why it's essential to plan accordingly to ensure everything is carried out smoothly. Michael intertwines personal anecdotes about balancing family commitments during the holiday while maintaining his professional responsibilities. He discusses the importance of making time for both and shares stories that highlight the sometimes amusing and sometimes challenging intersection of family life and estate planning. Tune in to gain a rich perspective on how planning for the future is not just a professional obligation but a personal one as well.
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Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end-of-life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
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Good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey. So we can do something besides just leave your family alone. You're listening to KLZ 560 AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. Once again, that's 720-394-6887. So last week I said, well, I'll be back in a couple weeks. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm off by a week. I think that the Thanksgiving holiday coming the last Thursday, we all thought we had an extra week in between Thanksgiving and Christmas, which is Part of why Christmas shopping are like, ah, we still need to do that or we need to do this or, you know, just kind of threw things off a little bit. And, you know, next week is Christmas. And then the week after that, I believe, is New Year's Day. So I probably won't be back for a couple of weeks. And, you know, just if you really need your estate planning fix, I can't think of anybody who would need their estate planning fix. Can you think of anybody, Luke, who might need their estate planning fix on Christmas and or New Year's Day? I don't I don't know. You don't know? I don't know who might or might not. I just can't think that there's something that would be, you know, you're like, really, Christmas Day? You're going to think about your own estate plan? It's fine to think about, but do you really need to listen to a radio show about it? I don't think so. No, probably not. It seems like that would be excessive. But, you know, that's just me. So but as we get towards the end of the year, it's amazing how many people are pretty sure that they either need to finish their estate plan by the end of the year or both start and finish it by the end of the year. Because, you know, December 18th is the greatest time ever or the 19th or the 20th to try to set up your estate plan. I mean, there's there's not a bad time to set up your estate plan unless it's too late. There's also, you know, and it's also not like a perfect time to do so. I mean, when you do, it is the best time. But it's kind of funny to me that people will call and they're like, oh, well, you know, I need to get my estate plan. I need to, you know, I need to get it done by the end of the year. And I'm like, well. you might need to look for somebody else who has earlier availability than I do. And that's simply because it does take time to do an estate plan. And as much as I'd like to be able to work and get everything done for people by the end of the year, It usually takes me a couple of weeks to put together a draft copy because once I get information and talk to you, I'll send it off to my paralegal and she'll draft things and get back to me. And I give her a couple of weeks to put together a draft copy. So I don't really, I mean, so this yesterday and today I've been telling people like, well, or like last week, tell people like, well, you know, two weeks from today is Christmas and I'm mean, but I'm not that mean. I probably will not make my paralegal work on Christmas. It just seems like a bad idea. Yeah. So if it's a couple of extra days past the two weeks and people are like, yeah, I totally get that. I'm like, that's cool. But there's something about the person who hasn't planned ahead and is panicking a little bit that when I say I'm not available any time before the end of the year, they seem to somehow get... You know, it's almost like they were hoping that I was, and I don't know if I was like their last chance or if they thought that I would be able to, you know, get them in and accommodate them. But my days are booked from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. You know, today I have an appointment at 4 o'clock to get a trust signed. And then I'm leaving from there and I'm going to the airport to pick up my daughter from the airport. She is 45. finished with finals and she is flying in tonight so we'll have her home for a couple of weeks from college and then we can send her back but in the meantime it's uh you know i'm when people like oh you know i really need this done can i meet with you at like 5 30 or 6 and i'm like nope not today And, you know, other days I'm like, well, they're like, you know, so today I pick up my daughter at 640 from the airport. Tomorrow my middle daughter, the 15-year-old, has a volleyball scrimmage that runs from 515 until 715. Well, I have an appointment in the tech center from 4 to 5, and then I'm supposed to be in Broomfield by 515 tomorrow. So I'm guessing I'll be late to that one unless if everybody's listening and they would like to just pull off to the side of I-25 and Highway 36 that I can just drive as fast as I want. I pretend like I'm an emergency vehicle or something. I would appreciate that. But I don't think anybody's going to do that for me. I think they all have places they need to get to. And then Friday night, I have a basketball game to officiate. So I'll referee that. It's just, you know, my nights and my evenings are spoken for by family. Okay. And, you know, people are like, well, you know, I work during the day. Can you meet in the evening or the weekends? I'm like, no, just can't do it. Don't have... I mean, this last Saturday, I was in charge of our Christmas party at the church. So I was there about 7.30 in the morning. So I had a basketball game to officiate. I finished about 9. Got to the church at 9.15. Set things up until 10.20. Went home. Well, actually... One of the other guys wanted to go to In-N-Out Burger because it's his favorite place to go. So we were convinced to go get In-N-Out at 1030 at night because why wouldn't you get a hamburger at 1030? I'm really. And so we did that. And then I was up. And so I was back at the church about 730 the next morning and I set up for an hour and a half. Got things ready, and then from about 8.30 to 9.45, I was scrambling eggs and cooking scrambled eggs. I scrambled 120 eggs for the party. I bought 180 eggs, but not everybody showed up, so we didn't have as many that we needed to do. But still, so for an hour and 15 minutes, I stood in scrambled eggs and made scrambled eggs. Because everybody knows that the perfect breakfast for Christmas is, of course, scrambled eggs with bacon, ham, and cheese and or sausage on them. So that's what we did. We had a scrambled egg bar. And then we had everybody bring like their favorite cinnamon roll or orange roll or other sweet treat. And so they could eat both. And, you know, that was and then we did that and we sang some Christmas songs, some Christmas carols. And then we had a visit from a visitor from the North Pole who came and did that. And so that's what I did until about 11. Well, we finished about 1030 and then I was. Cleaning up till about 1115, and then I had to leave to go get my daughter from volleyball practice. And then later that night, one of the other church congregations, the person who was going to be that special visitor from the North Pole, was unable to do so. So they called me and asked if I would be able to be a fill-in. And so later that night I was. So I spent... four or five hours on our own Christmas party, and then another couple at somebody else's Christmas party, helping people out, serving people of our church congregation. And those were good things to do, but it did mean that somebody who wanted me to start on their estate plan last Saturday was going to be out of luck for no reason other than I was busy. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. The phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. Now, I tell you this story is not to be like, look, I'm so busy and I can't possibly help you. I'm like, no, I want to help you. I want to help as many people as I can as quickly as I can. And I want to be able to do that, but I also want to do it the right way. And I don't want to sacrifice what else needs to be done or, you know, don't want to sacrifice. I mean, obviously we, we go off to, uh, when we go off to various, um, places to do things with family. And every time I go to work, I'm, you know, my family is, you know, my kids are in school right now. Um, my wife is either working or doing other stuff. So it's not like you have to say, well, I'm going to spend every moment with my family is in every moment with everybody else. But, um, there, you know, if I, if I'm working during the day, it's nice to see my family in the evenings and in the, on the weekends because they're important and need to be taken care of too. I mean, ultimately that's why we're doing an estate plan anyways, to take care of our families because If I set up my will or my trust, I've done both, and I've got everything set up, it's like, well, why do I care? If I'm dead and gone, why does it matter? I'm like, well, first of all, I do love my wife and I want to take care of her. So if I die... I don't want her to leave her with a mess going, well, wait a minute, who's supposed to get what and how do we transfer ownership and, you know, how do we access the bank accounts and who's going to, you know, is life insurance going to pay out? Do we even have life insurance? You know, how do I pay for the house? How do I pay for kids? You know, what do I do? Well, you know, there is life insurance that does pay out and that would help pay off the house. It would help pay for the kids. You know, all of those things are there. All those things exist. And we go, okay, well, we've got all those wonderful things. That's awesome. But how do we and what do we do with that? And how do we make that work? How do we make that properly accessible? accomplish what we want and you know how do we have it all laid out so that my wife who hopefully will be sad if I go you know hopefully she would grieve me and not like be celebratory but if she was celebratory that's fine too but as we I don't want her to be trying to navigate all this legal stuff and trying to figure everything out when Um, we're trying to, you know, right after having lost me. So we've got that in place. Now also we lose, you know, what, what if my wife and I are both past both pass away? Now we're, you know, not necessarily young. We're not necessarily old. We're kind of in the middle of somewhere. I felt really old moving my daughter into her dorm in August when I took her to college. I'm like, I swear I was just here, just graduated from here a couple weeks ago, and why in the world do I now have an 18-year-old? It just didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But I do understand how those things go and how that works. And I'm not upset about it or anything. I'm just like, oh, right, okay, we can't. But since I'm in the middle somewhere, I'm not young, I'm not old, but I do need an estate plan. I need it set up so that I know what's going to happen to things. Now, if I were to die, right now I have an 18-year-old, so she could technically take over everything. But I don't necessarily want my 18-year-old to be saddled with that responsibility. Now, she could handle it. Including raising her siblings and all those type of things. She's mature enough to handle it. But she's also a freshman in college. And she's had all sorts of fun going to football games and volleyball games and joining pre-med clubs and doing her homework. And she's been pretty successful. She had one final that she didn't do as well on it as she had hoped. And we're like, well, you know, kiddo, there's we all kind of do that sometimes when you're in college or in my case, college and law school, you have a final where you're like, oh, that did not go the way that I'd hoped it would. But what can you do? You can't go. We don't have time machines. We cannot go back in time and fix things. So instead, we say, all right, well, what do we do? And for her, when she did poorly on this final, she was very concerned about it, and she called us, and we're like, well, you know, there's not much we can do about that particular final. But you do want to be a little bit careful about how you let this final affect the rest of your finals. So... we talked about how it was okay to be sad about the final, but then it was time, but then you can't be, couldn't be sad about it and let it drag down your other finals. Like, okay, well that one's done. You have three more you need to take. So you need to just go study for those and do the best you can and work on them. And that way you won't let one error compound its way into a whole bunch of other errors. And she seemed to understand that. And I'm like, well, this is part of the life lessons that, um, And my wife – I didn't say that to her, but I said to my wife, I'm like, is this part of the life lessons that you learn from going to college or growing up is that you can't let one bad thing that happens affect everything else? I mean, clearly, people are impacted by things that happen. And if I – The day after I lost my puppy dog, I think it was the day after, I remember I came in and I was supposed to do this show. And so I didn't really talk about estate planning. I talked about the puppy dog the whole time. And since it's my show and I can talk about what I want, it was good for me to talk about the puppy dog that I had to say goodbye to. Now, Not everybody loves puppy dogs the way that I do, and not everybody who has a puppy dog would be quite as sad as I was to lose their puppy dog. You know, just everybody has different ways that they deal with things. Everybody has different emotional attachments and things like that. You know, for my wife, it was the first puppy dog that we'd had from, we bought her as a puppy and then she was almost 14 when she passed away. The puppy dog, not the wife. And wife is still alive, which is good because I like her and she likes me and it's a good thing. But the... When we lost the puppy dog, she, growing up, sometimes animals would come to their house, but they only lasted like six to 12 months, and then they would go live on the farm, meaning my father-in-law would give them away. He's just not a huge fan of animals, at least not them living in his house and possibly getting hair on his furniture or not having perfectly manicured carpet and things like that. So. So when we lost the puppy dog, it was the first puppy dog my wife had had from a puppy dog all the way up to an old dog and then passing away. And she was very, very sad because she had kind of convinced herself that the dog was never going to die. Well, the dog, you know, it's the nature of dogs. They do pass away. You know, they don't last for forever. We got her for almost 14 years. And our current dog, one of them, is now older than that dog was. This is the dog that was always the comfort and the friend to my 18-year-old. My 18-year-old, when she was younger, she was like, I can't sleep. I need a dog. So she'd take this dog and take now the old dog and go off to her room and the dog would sleep in the bed with her and you know, kind of help her and comfort her. We were very concerned that now that she is an older dog that she would be so sad from her friend going off to school and not being home for three months at a time that she was very concerned we would lose this dog to sadness. Because when we did lose the puppy dog almost six years ago, the current one just kind of stopped eating. She's like, nope, I'm very sad. I'm going to give up on this. We're like, eh, it's not good. And then we were concerned at Thanksgiving that the older puppy dog would be so excited that she would have a, you know, her heart would give out when she was so excited to see her new friend, her friend come back. That didn't happen either. And, you know, we're like, okay, it might not be connected to. our daughter going off to college when we do lose the puppy dog. But, you know, she is also coming, she's like 14 years old. So now we have a puppy dog that we're like, well, if she passes away, it's not because kiddo went off to school or came back. It's because she is 14 and that's a decently long lifestyle, lifestyle. for a dog. It is a small dog. It's not a big dog, but still. So, you know, just thinking about dogs and estate planning, we'll talk about that in a second. But right now, just remember, you're listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560. Also heard on FM 100.7 or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, that's 720-394-6887. My dogs are kind of part of the family. I consider that I have three human children, I have two canine children, and one departed canine child. And, you know, yes, I spoil my dogs a little bit. That's what I do because they're dogs and they're great and they're wonderful and they deserve it. And, you know, the dog's not going to go, when we got our first dog before we had our first child, we were like, well, it can be our practice kid. And if we screw it up, the dog's not going to go on Oprah and talk about it. All the terrible, horrible things that we did to the dog. Yeah, the dogs can just be like, hey, will you feed me? Cool. I want another treat. Here you go. Can I have a toy? Sure. Okay. I love you. That's great. Dogs are a little bit less... a little bit less demanding, a little bit less entitled than say children, for instance, you know, and I have great kids and my kids are really not entitled, but they do ask for a little bit more than the, uh, the kids would, or then the dogs would, you know, the dogs are like, Hey, if you give me a treat and you take me out on a walk and you scratch my tummy then, or pet me, I'm the happiest creature in the entire world. I'm like, yeah, I can live with that. You know, we, They love it when we watch a football game or a basketball game because we'll just sit down and they'll sit and we can sit and pet them because we're kind of sitting in the same place for an hour or two or three or four with a football game. They're just super excited that we're there and we can pet them. And if we stop petting them, they will let us know. They'll pet us back. It's more in the form of a scratch, but still. But my dogs are kind of family members and are treated as such and loved as such. And not everybody's dog is quite that same way. But my estate plan also says... If my wife and I die and you take my kids, you also have to take my dogs because I don't want to separate out the kids and the dogs. Now, there are people who, I mean, I've heard of it happening where Somebody dies and then they will go and they will euthanize the dog and like bury the dog with the person or, you know, combine their ashes and things like that. And I'm like, I don't think I need to do that. I don't even if I'm gone, I don't necessarily want my puppy dog to need to, you know, have their life ended just because mine did. That just seems mean. Doesn't seem like a good idea. But I also whenever my I've had people like, oh, you know, how come dogs can't live as long as humans? I'm like, well, for this reason, you know, if I'm 46 and I buy a dog, I expect it to live 10, 12, maybe 15 years. well i expect to outlive the dog well if i was 40 and i bought a dog that was going to live for 70 years let's say that i lived from 40 to age 70 and then i died age 70 the dog now has another 40 years to live so if the dog spent 30 years living with me and learning to you know love me as its master and i would take care of it Then I'm like, oh, halfway through the dog's life, I'm like, hey, guess what? You get to figure out how to live your life at somebody else's house and with somebody else taking care of you. And the dog's like, wait a minute, what's going on here? Now, I think the dog, after 30 years with me and 40 years with somebody else, the dog would probably adjust. But I don't know that I would want to subject a dog to that many years of trying to adjust to new humans and things like that. My oldest daughter is like, oh, did your monkeys pick you up and carry you around? Are the monkeys trying to tell you what to do? Because I'm like, yeah, if we're big giant monkeys and we have the dogs, I'm like, yes, I'm bigger than you. I can pick you up. And my dogs are small dogs. I have a West Highland Terrier and a half Westie, half Yorkie. So they're each 12 to 14 pounds. And it's pretty easy for me to be able to pick them up and, um, carry them around or pet them. Or when they fight, pull them away from each other. When they're fighting, you're like, you grab from the back, kind of back legs back around the stomach and kind of pull them apart. You don't put your hand in the middle of where they're chomping. Otherwise they will chomp you. Or, I mean, I've never had that happen and neither has anybody else. So I don't know what I'm talking about, except for I speak from experience. Right. But, uh, You know, and people are like, oh, I want to leave everything to my dog. I'm like, well, you know, I guess you hear stories about celebrities who left everything to their pets. I'm like, well, here's the thing. Under Colorado law, you can't leave everything outright to your pets. You can create a pet trust to take care of the pets, but even that you can only last for however long it lasts. And mine just says, if you take my kids, you take my dogs and they'll take care of you. Now you can take care of dogs and my kids. And that meant that we had to pick somebody to raise the kids who would be okay also with having the dogs. Because if I were to send my kids to my father-in-law and mother-in-law to be raised, they wouldn't want the dogs. It wouldn't go well. So they're not the ones that we picked. We picked somebody else who would be able to handle the dogs and the kids. Because when somebody passes away, you don't want to necessarily just saddle somebody with a terrible, horrible burden of all of these things, but rather you want to do what would be good for them and you want to do what's best for the kids and what's best for the dogs and what's best for everybody involved and not just say, oh, well, we're going to screw this up or we're going to dictate this is how it has to be or something along those lines. That's just not what you're able or wanting or trying to do. You're trying to do what's best for them, not what's worse for them. That's the whole point of estate planning is to set something up that will work well for the people who are left behind. Will it work for your kids? Will it work for your relatives? Will it work for those who are bringing things behind? There's plenty of movies and stories of all the terrible, horrible things that happened. if somebody died and oh well now these people are taking over there's all sorts of things there but we don't want your story to be the basis of a movie of how many horrible things happened to your children so when you're setting up your estate plan you're trying to do it we've got Christmas coming up in a week trying to give your kids that final gift of how can we take care of you so that things go well So that's, I think my music is telling me that I'm running out of time. So thank you so much for listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM. John Rush and Rush Reason up next, and I will be back in a couple of weeks in the new year. So thanks so much for listening. Thanks and have a great day. Bye-bye.
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Mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey will return to ATX next Wednesday at 2.30 here on KLZ 560, AM 560, FM 100.7, and online at klzradio.com.
